The search for a catcher
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- April
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Brian Cashman’s Blackberry could melt by the time this week is over.
Jorge Posada trusts Dr. James Andrews and will abide by whatever the noted orthopedic surgeon suggests. That could be two weeks of rest and rehab or surgery. If it’s surgery, it could mean 4-6 weeks or the rest of the season depending on how much damage there is.
Injury expert Will Carrroll of Baseball Prospect, who I have the greatest respect for, suggests that Posada will need 30 days of rest and rehab but could return early to DH.
At this point, nobody knows for sure.
If Posada is going to be out longer than six weeks, Cashman probably need to obtain a veteran catcher of some sort. Jose Molina can do the job. But look what happened when he started to play every day earlier this month, he pulled a hamstring and was out a week.
Who’s out there? Here’s a list:
Mike DiFelice: He’s catching in the minors for Tampa. He has been with (it seems like) every organization at some point.
Sal Fasano: The Big Ragu is catching for the AAA Richmond Braves. He knows the pitchers a little and has a great mustache.
Doug Mirabelli: Free agent who was cut by the Red Sox in spring training. That he remains a free agent should tell you something.
Damian Miller: He is a free agent.
Josh Paul: He’s catching in the minors for Houston.
Mike Piazza: He has not caught a game since 2006 when he was with the Padres. It would take him some time to get ready.
There’s really nobody inside the organization at this point. The two best prospects are in Low Class A ball and they’re not being called up. Even if Francisco Cervelli were healthy, he’d stay with Trenton.
The Yankees need to hope that Posada’s injury isn’t serious. Because if it is, the alternatives are not great.
Of course Cashman could use one of his prospects to trade for somebody legit, like Ronny Paulino of Pittsburgh. The problem then becomes what happens next year. Molina is signed through 2009 and Posada through 2011.
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I’d welcome back Sal and his Pals.
Mirabelli always killed the Yanks, but I’m sure it was a fluke. He didn’t hit anyone else, but he seemed to love hitting at the Stadium.
Pete, how long does it take before we know whether or not Moeller clears wavers?
I’d give Piazza a shot.
“I’d give Piazza a shot.”... only because it would piss off Met fans
What are the odds the Red Sox claim Moeller just to screw the Yankees?
how about the trading with the Tigers for Brandon Inge for Fransworth and prospect or two? Inge is clearly isn’t happy in Detriot anymore and the Tigers been wanting Fransworth back for 2 years already.
Here is a question for you all.
With Posada out and knowing you cannot catch Molina everyday. is it more important that Molina stay with the youngsters and give him the day off when you have a veteran pitcher pitching or is it more important that he stay with the veterans and you give him the day off when the youngters are pitching.
Or does it not matter at all really.
Who cares about next year? So you have 3 catchers under contract – you can never have too much depth. Even 2 weeks of rest is 3 weeks after rehab assignment. If anyone, Fasano or Mueller (pending DFA outcome) if it is not serious.
Don’t forget the Rangers catcher Laird if they make Salty the full-time catcher.
Mirabelli has stated in the past he did not want to play for the Yankees. Even if he had a change of heart, I doubt Cashman would sign him. He is no better than what they have as a backup to Molina.
Moeller???
Ed – Inge said he doesn’t want to catch as it effected his hitting.
JUST SAY NO to Piazza.
We’ve gotten spoiled in New York because of Posada’s hitting skills, but a catcher has to be able to catch. Any offense is icing on the cake.
And Piazza can’t catch anymore.
None of those guys are worth pursuing at this point. Piazza isn’t worth going after under any circumstances, and Miller didn’t want to go back to Milwaukee because he wanted to spend more time with his family—and he’s from Wisconsin anyway. He’s not coming to NY. Stewart is probably as good as any of them, and he’s already in the organization. Those other guys, or guys very similar to them, will be available if Molina or Stewart go down, and by then Moeller may be back anyway.
Losing Posada for a couple of months or even the year is bad, but not insurmountable. Cashman and co. are better off waiting until much much closer to the trade deadline to determine what the team’s needs are going to be headed down the stretch and which prospects they are going to be surplus parts in the future.
“how about the trading with the Tigers for Brandon Inge for Fransworth and prospect or two? Inge is clearly isn’t happy in Detriot anymore and the Tigers been wanting Fransworth back for 2 years already.”
...I forgot to mention that Inge could also play other positions like 3b, of, and catch.
I think they have to wait 10 days from when Moeller was placed on waivers which I think is later this week or early next week maybe they can stick with the AAA guy until then but certainly need a back up plan.
Also I would go with Fasano just because he has been here before and knows some of the pitchers which I think is helpful
Who in hell would want Mirabelli? His claim to fame is that he could catch Wakefield and he has a big mouth. Other than that he’s worthless.
You know my vote.
Always, and I mean always, go with the mustache.
That paisan can do a split like a Solid Gold dancer.
Maybe get the other catcher on Pitt, Doumit. He can at least play some RF, and then next year there is some insurance there if Abreu leaves. I guess getting the Pirates number one catcher would cost more, but this would give the Yanks better flexibility. Maybe its not reasonable that they’d trade him though.
I would say that most important thing to do is find out about Posada, yes? You don’t trade for a Brandon Inge if you’re not going to need him.
Triple A until we know for sure. Moeller would be ideal but I bet someone will scoop him up “just because”.
The Tigers have no interest in helping the Yankees, a team they may be fighting for a playoff spot against this year.
Plus, they need Inge themselves. Pudge is on his last legs.
My Top 2, assuming they can’t get Moeller back:
1. DeFelice. The Rays young pitchers raved about working with him. Good catch and throw guy. Old school type of toughness. He would be a good guy to give Molina a break a couple of games a week.
2. Damien Miller, if he can be ready quickly. In fact, he’s my #1 choice if he can be ready quickly. Another veteran guy who works well with pitchers. I just don’t know how long it would take him to get ready. If its more than 2 weeks, you have to pass on him.
Even if Posada were to miss the season, I’d be real leery about overpaying for a catcher right now.
Sure, they will miss his Posada’s offense. But, truth be told, Molina is a better defensive catcher than Posada. Just means the other guys in the order have to pick up the slack.
They have scored 3 or less runs in 12 of their 26 games this year. Let’s face it, if they are only going to score 3 or less runs in half their games this year, they are going to be in big trouble, regardless of Posada’s status.
That’s why I wouldn’t overpay for a catcher. Hopefully, Moeller passes through waivers and they have him backup Molina. That’s best case scenario for a tough situation.
I think that Molina would be fine, with someone (Moeller or Stewart) spelling him once a series.
Mirabelli’s intriguing only cuz he always kills us.
Inge is intriguing, not for catching purposes but because he’s could be a super-utility guy.
I hope it’s not too serious and that we can have Posada back to DH at least. Of course roster moves will have to be made. I think one of the lower-tier minor league pitchers will have to be left unprotected. But isn’t it worth it to have Posada’s bat, even if he can’t catch?
whoever put Moeller out to pasture before Posada was figured out should burn for this.
Yikes that is not a prime list…
I say no to Piazza, because the yankees should go for defense here… I believe Molina calls a better game and is better behind the plate so what we lose in posada’s offense is gained in molina’s defense…
Piazza would be a waste because over the last 5 years he has only thrown out 70 of the 397 runners to steal against him… which is 17.6 %
if it’s longterm get Paulino but don’t overbuy
SJ44 – Agree 100%. They need to start hitting. Cano’s batting average on balls in play this year is about .171, career is around .325. His luck needs to improve.
Really? What happens if you find out Posada was fine but re-injured it on Saturday? Change your impressions a bit?
They can’t carry 3 catchers all season. Posada was examined by 3 doctors. All gave him the green light. That’s why Moeller was DFA’ed.
He threw out Brady Sizemore on Saturday, no small feat. Obviously, his shoulder was good enough for that throw.
He said he had no pain after that game. He woke up Sunday with no pain and came to the park ready to catch.
For reasons to be determined, he was unable to throw.
Given that sequence of events, how exactly did the Yankees err with Posada?
“What are the odds the Red Sox claim Moeller just to screw the Yankees?”
Not too high. Boston has a couple decent catching prospects in AAA. Not spectacular prospects, but decent. They don’t need another.
“With Posada out and knowing you cannot catch Molina everyday.”
Couldn’t disagree more. As catcher (read: not including offense) Molina is the best in the AL East by a mile, and probably in the Top 3 in the AL. The longer he plays, the more he’ll be exposed as a below average offensive catcher, but you won’t do a lot better than him behind the dish. If Arod and Cano pick up their games, you can easily live with Molina’s marginal offense.
SJ44,
I thought that the Tigers asking Inge to catch was part of the problem?
And guys, I know you hate Farnsworth, but he’s not completely worthless. When he can get on the mound, he pretty much gets it done. No more nibbling, not too many dingers.
He’ll suffice for now as a semi-quasi-set-up guy. If someone grabs the brass ring and passes over him. You’ve got Hawkins, Farnsworth , setup guy, Rivera with Joba in the rotation. Farnsworth as your 7th inning, worse case-scenario 8th inning guy and you’re still not happy? Boy, you guys are spoiled. lol.
paulino shouldn’t be considered; he had a good year when he was called up in 2006 but hasn’t done much since; he’s lazy when it comes to defense and is outmatched by pitchers. Doumit won’t come at a cheap price because he is pittsburgh’s starting catcher.
I read it would take Moeller 72 hours starting today to clear waivers. That would mean we should know something by Thursday.
Just go with Molina and servicable alternative behind him. I wouldn’t overpay, or overreact right now. The key here is to find out what the status on Posada’s shoulder is. If he’s done for the year, and Molina & Co. are struggling, you make a move. If not, you deal with what you’ve got.
screw it, call up jesus montero!
relax….
Molina is fine as a starting catcher. Who cares about the backup’s offense?? Just get a guy who can play D for the other 20% of the time.
The fact that we are worried enough to trade guys for a backup catcher is crazy. That said, yanks are lucky they had the best backup in MLB (Molina) so that its not a concern.
how about p.j. pillitere? waswatching.com suggested it, seems reasonable.
Farnsworth for Inge… not a bad idea!
the yankees would be better off just setting up a wall with a spray painted square with an X through it if theyre going to go with one of the bums on that list.
Moeller got some singles for us great, if Posada is out for 6+ weeks I don’t care if Moeller clears waivers or not I don’t think he solves our problems. It’s one thing not trading Hughes for Johan…it’s another if your starting catcher goes down and you need a replacement, I’d prefer giving up some farm for a good replacement. Granted we shouldn’t break the farm but something for a more legit catcher makes me less nervous that having Moeller. No offense to Chad but…
“whoever put Moeller out to pasture before Posada was figured out should burn for this.”
this has to be the most disingenuous post in the history of this blog. and that’s saying something.
go back to last week and read the comments on this blog.
“WHY DON’T THEY CUT MOELLER ALREADY AND BRING BACK DUNCAN?”
over and over.
the Yankees obviously took a VERY conservative route with holding onto Moeller for as long as they did. to the point where everyone here was bitching and moaning about it.
they waited until Posada caught the first 2 games in Chicago and then rested the 3rd game to see how he felt.
he must have said he felt fine on Friday, so they FINALLY went with the roster move.
then he aggravated it on Saturday.
everyone here is working with imperfect information. no one knew that would happen.
the constant second guessing here is so annoying.
also, do you really think Moeller is that good? so what, they lost him. i’d imagine that Stewart is his exact equal.
the guy had 20 decent ABs, and now people are calling for someone’s head for releasing him.
give me a break.
Mel,
He may not like catching but, as long as he is under contract with the Tigers, they will use him as they please.
He’s a valuable commodity to them. They have an older team. If Pudge or Ordonez or Jones get hurt, they have a guy they can plug into those spots.
I think they hold onto him for the season because given the state of their roster, he’s going to get a lot of PT over the course of the season.
“paulino shouldn’t be considered; he had a good year when he was called up in 2006 but hasn’t done much since; he’s lazy when it comes to defense and is outmatched by pitchers. ”
you got stats to back that up ?
1. I am one who does not hate Farnsworth and so totally ignore comments calling for his head. Not only are they ridiculous given the circumstances in the bullpen, they are ridiculous since the guy in showing improvement all the time.
2. We don’t need anyone to take over for Molina. I didn’t think that was even a question here. Molina could take the entire season if he had to, with someone in the wings for backup. That’s how good he is. Defense is what we need in a catcher, as is the case with most catchers. Offense is a plus if you get it.
Soup – your remark about someone burning for letting Moeller go is the very reason I am hopeful that Jorge’s problem is something short term. They never would have let Moeller go if they thought they had ANY problem on their hands, let alone a big one. In fact, they thought Jorge was good to go until he threw to third and said he felt some pain! Don’t forget an MRI and three concluding opinions said it was nothing major.
Farnsworth for Inge? Too lopsided. Maybe Detroit will throw in Cabrera to sweeten the deal.
SJ,
Thanks. I read that Inge wanted to be traded before the season began because he wasn’t starting and then they wanted him to spot catch to boot.
I’m sure he’s not a happy camper right now (except he might be secretly laughing that Cabrera’s wasn’t producing as expected before his injury).
Seems like a good guy, though, kind of the 6th man that’s the glue.
Cleveland seems to be on track, any predictions on how the Tigers fare this season? Something’s definitely up with Verlander.
I just realized the solution——John Flaherty!!!!!!
“how about p.j. pillitere? ....”
Pllitere is ready to catch defensively in the majors. And he’s already caught Hughes, Kennedy and Chamberalain and knows them well.
The question with him is his bat. He’s not a good hitter and it’s hard to think he’s ready to hit in the majors.
And he’s not on the 40 man roster. That’s a big consideration with a guy whose bat may not be that close to being ready.
One of the ways that Cervelli’s injury impacted the organization was that it wound up moving Pillitere back to AA. He was expected to be in AAA.
Pillitere needs AAA at bats before you can tell if he’s ready to be a back up in the majors.
In voice of Ben Stein in Ferris Bueller’s Day of:
“Moeller??? Moeller??? Moeller??? Moeller???”
“If Posada is going to be out longer than six weeks…”
Call it a feeling but I’m thinking surgery for a lot of reasons, even if rehab is an option.
Why put off the inevitable if non-surgical rehab is only a maybe at best. If there’s a weakness in that shoulder, and there’s a possibility that a surgical repair plus cleanup lasts longer/works better/provides more confidence than nature taking its course, I think the Yankees and Jorge are thinking about ‘09, ‘10 and ‘11 as much as ‘08. They want him to catch as long as possible. They really don’t want him as Giambi redux, a 1st baseman by contract rather than ability.
Even without surgery, Cash has to be in a bit of a sweat as he re-thinks his succession plan at catcher. Molina turns 33 this June (magic age range of catcher decline) and Posada just proved he is mortal after all.
Short term I’m thinking Fasano ... he was here before. Unless it took more than a couple low-level prospects to get him. Otherwise Miller being a FA sounds good.
Molina is a good enough defensive C to start on most teams, so I’m thinking the backup C for (potentially) the rest of the year isn’t as critical a choice as who’s going to play 1B every day for the rest of the year. A backup C plays roughly only 1 game out of every 5.
While in the background (copied from my late post in the last thread) I’m also thinking about this:
OK let’s assume Posada misses some time this year (even if its all year) and comes back to C next year. Who in the know (CB? SJ? Anyone?) knows if Montero could develop defensively as a C quickly enough to become Posada’s full-time backup in ‘10 (while being a DH) then take over behind the plate while Posada moves to DH/backup C for his final year?
Or is Montero likely to need the playing time in the minors more in 3 years?
trisha, youre right…Farnsworth is BY FAR the best pitcher not named Mariano or Joba in the Yankees bullpen…and its not even close.
Real World I’m with you. And anyone else who has said something that equates to “relax”.
I’ll wait to see what we have on our hands and then I’ll check out the Yankee organization response and know it’s a good one.
Have a good day y’all.
How about Gerald Laird? Texas just recalled Saltalamacchia, and its been reported how eager they would be to move Laird, with Teagarden also at AAA. He’s more of the all-glove/almost no-bat variety, but MLB proven.
“Don’t forget an MRI and three concluding opinions said it was nothing major.”
no, we HAVE to have someone to criticize. o/w there is nothing to talk about.
guys, it’s Chad Moeller.
Don’t forget that we are now missing Bruney so at the moment we aren’t in the position to be trading a middle reliver.
““Or is Montero likely to need the playing time in the minors more in 3 years?â€
Ansky,
Defensively I think Montero will take 3 years to develop properly. He will not be 19 until November 2008. That’s how young he is.
So even in 3 years – he’ll only be 21.
I could see his bat being ready in 2 years.
But defensively he’s going to need time. It’s such a hard position to play.
It’s worth it being patient at him.
If Montero blossoms at catcher – he will be one of the most valuable players in the entire game because he’ll be so much better than the average catcher in the league.”
ANSKY,
From the previous thread, about Sabathia? Did you notice that the Fox crew spent an obscene amount of time talking about Sabathia’s contract talks? About the union wanting him to top Santana’s deal and that Sabathia wants to give the Indians a hometown discount?
Rough, rough week for the Yanks. First Bruney now Jorge. Hopefully it’s not as bad as it sounds and we can have him back well before the All-Star Break. But hey, thank god the Yanks traded for Molina last year. I actually feel pretty comfortable with him being the everyday guy. Can you imagine if we still had Wil Nieves? lol. I’m content to see what Chris Stewart can do, and hope that Moeller clears waivers. i think we’ll be all right.
FWIW Ronny Paulino
RISP .600/.667/.700
RISP 2 outs .500/.600/.500
runners on .529/.600/.647
for some reason he sucks when no one is on base.
No Piazza
Perfect solutio:
Girardi activates himself as player/manager… that way he can visit Kennedy & Hughes as much as he wants without being charged as a manager visit…
BTW – I’m available to be interviewed for Cashman’s job should he leave at end of season – feel free to pass the word along
also, Girardi seems to be in great shape still. Maybe they can redo his contract to make him a player manager and he can be Molina’s backup.
Or Tony Pena!
Just say no to Doug Mirabelli. When he was on the Padres he didnt want to catch a game because ‘his boys(the red sox) were in a big series with the yankees’. Just imagine what he would do to this team if he were on it.
CB –
I just caught’ your post from the last thread regarding Montero. Thanks. He’s that young huh?
Bad idea to not continue getting playing time for 3 years, but he has a good shot?
If his bat is that good now, maybe it’ll be worth the wait when Posada’s done with his 4 years. Would that statement be more realistic or optimistic?
The Rangers have just called up Salty from AAA. They are already 7 games back and will struggle to get at bats for him if the keep Laird as a regular behind the plate. They might be willing to move Laird for some pitching prospects and let Salty use this yr to get used to life in the bigs. Obviously we don’t want to give up too much to fill a short term need, but if Posada is done for the year he could be a decent option. He is getting $1.8M this yr so wouldn’t have too much of a tax implication either.
doesnt Paulino play multiple positions? kind of like Inge in a way, he can backup Molina, or play 1B or the OF, right? versatility is always nice, depending on the price.
Pete,
Will Carroll said Posada has a torn rotator cuff. I assume he has no gotten another MRI yet, so this is just speculation at this point? Also, has he officially been put on the DL yet, or is that move still pending?
As for the moves they should make, they have to call up Stewart for Scranton until they get a better diagnosis of the injury. If it shows a strain like before (just reaggravated), then Molina and Stewart can hold down the fort until Posada comes back. If it’s more severe, then you need to look at some of these other options.
“The Rangers have just called up Salty from AAA. They are already 7 games back and will struggle to get at bats for him if the keep Laird as a regular behind the plate. They might be willing to move Laird for some pitching prospects and let Salty use this yr to get used to life in the bigs. Obviously we don’t want to give up too much to fill a short term need, but if Posada is done for the year he could be a decent option. He is getting $1.8M this yr so wouldn’t have too much of a tax implication either.”
see this is an example of overbuying the Rangers ,most likely will sell high Laird for more pitching prospects why do this ?
wil nieves us actually doing pretty well in DC
i don’t think they should be hasty and make a trade or anything for a part time catcher that we’ll probably only have this season. Ronny Paulino, as intriguing is it is, is too good of a player to trade some of our prospects for just to have him catch once every 4 or 5 games then have no where to put him next year.
TurnTwo he played 1B too, but hasn’t since 2004
Obviously the Yankees have to get Piazza to catch for Clemens later in the season.
It’ll be a killer kombo!
Peter….what do YOU think the Yankees should do ??? I would like to hear your thoughts, friend ?
What the hell did Carlos Delgado do yesterday? Not come out for a curtain call? Is it really that big a deal? Really?
(sorry, I’m listening to WFAN and these two crazies are screaming at each other about it)
jeez. the Red Sox are in the midst of a 5 game skid and yet they’re still 3 games over .500….
“What the hell did Carlos Delgado do yesterday? Not come out for a curtain call? Is it really that big a deal? Really?
(sorry, I’m listening to WFAN and these two crazies are screaming at each other about it)”
just once I’d like to see a punch thrown between them
Did anyone feel just a little bit sorry for Sizemore yesterday as his consecutive game streak (1/10th of Ripken’s!) came to an end?
And Roger Clemens! They’re really digging dirt up on him. This is how old this is. The 15 year old girl in the story is now 32 years old. I hope he’s telling the truth about it being platonic cuz that’s pretty sick for a professional athlete to do that.
mel: i didn’t feel bad for sizemore at all. 3 some consecutive games is nothing. i felt bad in 06 when Matsui’s was broken though, i’ll tell you that. i didn’t care when Tejada’s got broken either.
“Will Carroll said Posada has a torn rotator cuff. I assume he has no gotten another MRI yet, so this is just speculation at this point? Also, has he officially been put on the DL yet, or is that move still pending?”
We always knew Posada had a shoulder “strain.” All strains are a type of tear.
Yesterday the NY Times said the affected muscle was the subscapularis muscle.
The subscapularis muscle is one of the muscles that makes up a the rotator cough.
So a “strained subscapularis” is the same as a “torn rotator cough.”
The key thing is how bad the tear is – what grade tear it is.
From the prior MRI the tear wasn’t thought to be that bad. It’s still bothering Posada so he’s getting it reevaluated.
But the question with any tear is whether it is so large (generally a type 3 tear) that it requires surgery.
Carroll himself said that he thought it was unlikely that Posada would need surgery.
I’ll also say that while Carroll is very good on injuries he tends to have less information on yankee players because the organization is so lips sealed on injuries.
Here’s what Carroll wrote:
“Posada has a torn rotator cuff, the same muscle (the subscapularis) that has Rich Harden on the shelf. Posada will head to Birmingham for an examination and consultation with Jim Andrews. After the announcement, Posada seemed very emotional, which could indicate that he knows this is a longer-term injury or could just be a reaction to being placed on the DL for the first time. A subscapular tear is a bad thing for a catcher, and it isn’t something that one can come back from quickly, though surgery doesn’t look like an option. I’m setting Posada’s DXL at 30, but remember that he could come back as a DH more quickly than that. The problem is that’s not what the Yankees need, and certainly not what they thought they were signing, though they had to understand the risks of signing an older catcher, even one as durable as Posada.”
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7437
300 something* not 3 something lol.
HE HAS PLAYED 3 CONSECUTIVE GAMES!
“What the hell did Carlos Delgado do yesterday?”
Did not do curtain call after hitting 2nd hr of game…. in his defense Delgado rarely does cc…
Hahaha Brandon! I think I would pay to see that. Like a dollar.
“jeez. the Red Sox are in the midst of a 5 game skid and yet they’re still 3 games over .500….”
they have not played anybody yet, they’ve been home most of this month, the tough schedule was LAA and TB so far 5 losses…wait till they go against the new Baltimore Orioles, Chicago Whitesoxs, Toronto again. They also are lucky they caught Detroit sleeping and Cleveland sleeping w/ a stupid CL option. Now we will see what the Red Sox really have.
no idea why i kept writing cough instead of cuff.. sorry about that.
ok, so now he’s a lying, cheating PEDOPHILE! c’mon all you roger defenders, defend your boy now!
If we’re gonna have Piazza on that list – might as well add Butch Wynegar on it too!
Brian from PA,
Oh yeah, a lot of people felt for Matsui, his was global!
Just looking at Sizemore’s sad eyes (thanks for zooming in TBS) got to me. Just a little. He still irritates me cuz he’s just the greatest thing since sliced bread. lol.
screw that suit up Tony !
ok, so he’s a lying, cheating (in baseball and marriage) PEDOPHILE! c’mon all you roger defenders, defend your boy now!
“Did anyone feel just a little bit sorry for Sizemore yesterday as his consecutive game streak (1/10th of Ripken’s!) came to an end?”
nah. i think consectutive game streaks usually HURT their team.
there are very few players that don’t need a day off from time to time.
how many times was Matsui in a prolonged slump, but Torre couldn’t sit him down because he would have had to answer a million questions to the Japanese media?
i think it was very smart of Wedge to just end this now. it’s early enough that Grady won’t be too upset and now it’s not something he has to worry about when deciding what is best for the team.
Fasano may be ok, but this is a different Yankees club house. There is no more candy or ice cream, so Fasano may not want to come here anymore. Plus, I don’t think Girardi would want him because he is a little overweight.
Wright does look like at the end of that clip he said …”No..don’t go”
At this point I think you have to be a little light in the loafers if you believe anything that comes out of Clemens mouth. Either that or you slept through the Congressional hearings.
“c’mon all you roger defenders, defend your boy now!”
IF this turns out to be true, no one is going to defend him.
but we don’t know if this is true. not at all.
i need to see actual proof before i call someone a pedophile.
Last night everyone was killing me for suggesting a trade now even pete agrees with me I love it! It seems like sending farnsworth and probally a low to mid level prospect to detroit for Inge is the best way to go. I also another option. The yankees should go after gerald laird and CJ wilson. That way we shore up the catcher spot and Joba could still move to the rotation even though we lost Bruney. If the shoe fits ya know?
where’s everyone who jumped all over me the other day when i suggested that jorge wasnt right and they cut moeller too early?
“At this point I think you have to be a little light in the loafers if you believe anything that comes out of Clemens mouth”
trisha, i don’t think “light in the loafers” means what you think it means.
From what I know, and I’m not a doctor, an MRI can sometimes miss things. All the doctors who look at Posada’s MRI could be reading the same thing which may look as if there’s no tear.
If the MRI ‘slices’ are taken at a certain interval, something could still be going on between the slices. It doesn’t have to be a big tear to cause inflammation that hurts like hell.
ugh. when is that stupid thing about the word for “the day between friday and sunday” getting caught in the filter going to be fixed?
i was suggesting an inge trade all saturday morning on here
They are gonna spend another hour talking about the Delgado situation.
Meanwhile we have the NFL Draft, NBA and NHL playoffs and the Posada/Yankees situation this past weekend. But they focus on whether or not Delgado was right or wrong for not coming out for a curtain call? You just have to laugh.
and like you, when i suggested getting inge or crede, everybody said it was a joke, and i was an idiot.
hmmm –
I definitely didn’t mean the homosexual connotation!
To me someone light in the loafers doesn’t take the time to think things out.
no love for the laird wilson deal???
Brian just use “Sabado” (this is a multilingual board, isn’t it?)
I say get Craig Biggio out of retirement.
Paulino was praised by the Pirates’ pitching staff as an excellent catcher to work with. The staff ERA is markedly better when Paulino is behind the plate. – Post Gazette
His .310 batting average makes him the first rookie catcher since Mike Piazza to play in at least 100 games and bat at least .310. He is only the second rookie catcher since 1969 to have those numbers.
hmmm…and he has options I think…hmmm….
“if it was true,” he’s already admitted that he had a realationship with the (15 y/o) girl, but denies it was sexual. anybody who still believes his denials is living in some kind of dream world. but i guess since you stood by him through all the lies up till now, its easy to just continue with your head in the sand.
your boy belongs in prison.
Actually, having a consensual, sexual relationship with a minor doesn’t make you a pedophile. It’s statutory rape. Get it right.
It happens all the time, but I said it would be particularly sick because Roger was a professional athlete, and his behavior should be beyond reproach. And there was a significant age difference. But please don’t pretend that 15 years don’t have older boyfriends.
I wonder what else will be coming out about Clemens..
“trisha, i don’t think “light in the loafers†means what you think it means.”
Hahahaha
“It seems like sending farnsworth and probally a low to mid level prospect to detroit for Inge is the best way to go.”
Brandon Inge is not a catcher. He can do it but not very well.
reality check mel, shes underaged, he belongs in prison
What kind of filter lets pedophile and “light in the loafers” through, but not a certain day of the week?
The best thing to do would be to bring up Carl Pavano and make him catch. Heck, if you can’t fill in Posada’s position and Molina takes some days off, do you know how gratifying it will be to see him get plowed into at the plate every now and then? Sure we’d lose, but what an effigy to enjoy!!!
Bring up the Albatross and make him catch!!!!
FWIW – I have had 2 MRIs on my shoulder over the last 18 months (along with a ton of xrays), been in PT for the last 18 months and they are now deciding it’s a muscle tear (not detectable in MRIs due to location) and I need arthroscopy…
Now my job does not require throwing, catching and hitting so I figure the course of care is different here, but I thought I’d throw it out there as an example of MRIs not always having the answer.
“I say get Craig Biggio out of retirement.”
Craig Biggio the 42 year old second baseman?
JMO I’m relative newbie here. You used the words “your boy”. What is your rooting interest?
I think Jorge was just very frustrated with the situation. As he said he has worked very hard to try and come back, than to have a set back like this. He wants to get it straightened out.
Aquiring Inge allows us to move him anywhere on the field hell the guy can even pitch!
JMO,
Fine. Just don’t throw the word pedophile around. Look up the word and you’ll see it’s not germaine to this particular situation.
“What kind of filter lets pedophile and “light in the loafers†through, but not a certain day of the week?”
The kind of filter that understands the connotation of “light in the loafers” to mean the opposite of a mental heavyweight and therefore was not offended by it.
my rooting interest is justice. rapists belong in prison.
Back to the Yankees catching situation….
I wait to see if Moeller makes it thru waivers first. If he does, he still has to spend 10 days at SWB before being recalled. Then, I believe, Stewart would have to pass thru waivers (and possible be lost) if he is sent down.
For what it’s worth, Rasner has been raving about Stewart’s catching at SWB, so give Stewart a chance to backup Molina so Molina doesn’t breakdown catching every day.
Without knowing the extent of Jorge’s injury or time he’s going to miss, it’s not the time to start buying high for a Laird or Paulino.
SoCalYankeeFan
trisha light in the loafers means ones hits from the other side of the plate.
mel, stop making excuses the lying cheating, pervert.
this wasnt some 22 y/o rookie getting drunk and picking up an underage groupie without knowing her age. this is a married 28 y/o father and established professional ballplayer and superstar sneaking behind his famiy’s back to mess around with a 15 y/o starlet.
SA you are so right and what makes it even worse is that they are not even brining up the fact that Delgado said after the game that he has only come out for 2 curtain calls in his entire career and he felt he didnt deserve one. That this was not a game winning HR, he hadnt had a walk off etc.
But why should the facts get int he way of an hour plus discussion
JMO – so do people who lie to Congress belong in prison. That wasn’t my question, and I didn’t think my question was terribly threatening. I wanted to know what team you rooted for. When you used the words “your boy” I thought that you rooted for another team, that’s all. It was an innocent question.
Jennifer, people have also used it to describe simple minded individuals, although the classic connotation is homosexual. Anyway, you know now which one I meant!
Patrick, Biggio was a catcher before a 2B. And played 141 games last year.
Roger isnt worth discussing. He fleeced us worst then Pavano last season. And he wasnt a 21 year old rookie he was 28!
JMO,
I’m not making excuses or defending him. If it’s not innocent as he claims, he’s wrong. IAnd if it was consensual, it’s not a federal offense in my eyes. The girl’s mama knew exactly what was going on and is probably just as culpable.
You learn something new everyday.
Check out MLBtraderumors.com they have a list of available catchers its a great rumor site.
“Patrick, Biggio was a catcher before a 2B. And played 141 games last year.”
Biggio played 2 innings as catcher last season. The last time he caught before 2007 was in 1991. I really hope your initial post was meant as a joke.
yes perjurers belong in prison too, but rape is a much more serious crime and not the kind that you give a total presumption of innocence to. rapists are arrested and if ther is sufficient evidence to go to trial, they are denied bail and kept in jail while awaiting trial.
oh, i forgot he’s a millionaire superstar so his lawyers will keep him living in some mansion somewhere (probably not his family’s) until he is tried. or worse yet, he goes the michael jackson way and just pays the girl and her family big time to shut up and go away.
FatCessa is hinting that we have to give up w/e to get another SP
JMO, is this country singer a relative of yours? You seem to be taking the allegations pretty personally. Or is it a guilty conscience for something you’ve done
mel, stop making excuses. a 15 y/o cannot consent. there is no such thing in law as consensual sex with a minor.
JMO –
You’d have to check out the statute of limitations on the crime of rape.
“rape is a much more serious crime and not the kind that you give a total presumption of innocence to. rapists are arrested and if ther is sufficient evidence to go to trial, they are denied bail and kept in jail while awaiting trial.”
This is totally untrue. In all crimes the defendant is presumed innocent. Deciding upon bail is done on a case to case basis. There isn’t a rule that says “Everyone charged with rape is denied bail.”
Trish, you are a lawyer, confirm/deny?
JMO
I don’t condone a married man being involved with anyone outside his marriage but…..
You are stating things as fact that haven’t been proven to be. It’s always dangerous standing on a soapbox unless you are 100% sure you’ve got a strong base built under you.
nice murph, after spending the whole winter making excuses for rocket, you now decide he’s undefendable, so you infer that i must be a rapist too?
when r u going to give it up?
Checklist:
√ Praise Melky
√ Acknowledge Wang’s awesomeness
√ Discuss catcher situation
√ Talk about Clemens scandal
 Discuss tonight’s pitching matchup
http://www.flsenate.gov/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&Search_String=&URL=Ch0794/SEC05.HTM&Title=->2007->Ch0794->Section%2005#0794.05
So, why do they specify age 16 or 17, instead of ‘17 or younger’?
I love that some people here are now angry that Moeller was cut—probably a bunch of the same folks who were angry he was taking up a roster spot last week. Now they’re acting as if he’s the second coming of Thurman Munson. He was cut by the Nationals and the Yankees before the season was a month old for a reason—the reason being that there are a whole bunch of players, including Stewart, who are pretty much as good as him. It would be nice to keep him around because, as Casey Stengel pointed out, you do need a catcher. But whether he’s at AAA and Stewart backing up Molina or they bring in Fasano or any of those other guys probably won’t make a game difference in the final standings.
Patrick – confirm.
How long before the yanks can bring chad moeller back to the majors?
“yes perjurers belong in prison too, but rape is a much more serious crime and not the kind that you give a total presumption of innocence to.”
JMO, you might want to re-read that presumption of innocence stuff a couple more times.
First of all, it applies to prosecutions, so you are a little out front considering this is a celebrity love life rumor spread in part by someone with emotional problems trying to jump star her failed career.
Second, the presumption of innocence really does apply to all prosecutions, including statutory rape, at least here in the USA.
JMO,
Once again, I don’t approve of it if it’s true.
But you’re the one who needs a reality check if you don’t think this crap goes on all the time. It’s disturbing, but it’s true.
Now, please, get off my back.
JMO, what did you put in your coffee today? Fire AND Brimstone?
Mel
So what do you think of this Mussina/ Laffey match up?
Who says Mirabelli always kills us? Take a look at his career average against the yankees. It may seem like he hurts us more because he has had so many opportunities, but in actuality the Yankees have handled him quite well in the past.
Mel – good plan.
What is the deal with Laffey. Looks like last year was his first year in the minors to a 4.5 ERA. If would be nice to have the offense break out and split the series heading into Detroit (who seems to be hitting better the last week and a half).
Patrick, confirm meaning that you are correct that bail for the majority of alleged crimes is done on a case-by-case basis.
JMO:
Duke University.
Still think that presumption of innocence shouldn’t apply in rape cases?
pat,
Well, I’m hoping for the best, but prepared for the worst from Moose. I’m so sad that we lost Andy’s start, but I’m not mad because he was such a warrior getting out of jams until that inning. So hopefully Moose can get one back for us.
BTW, Bruney really did break our hearts, huh?
And JMO you are required to give a total presumption of innocence to any crime brought before the justice system and have to do so unless and until the government proves its case.
Have you all had a chance to look ahead at the Tigers match-ups…looks decent:
“An intriguing set of pitching pairings include Detroit’s Kenny Rogers (1-3, 7.66) vs. New York’s Phil Hughes (0-3, 7.85) on Tuesday, Jeremy Bonderman (1-2, 4.28) of the Tigers against Andy Pettitte (3-2, 3.23) on Wednesday and Nate Robertson (0-3, 6.91) opposite Ian Kennedy (0-2, 8.53) of the Yankees on Thursday.”
get me some SALTALAMACCIA!
Have to agree that Pete appears a little anti-Girardi at times, but I’m not sure it’s any more loopy than those who believe Girardi is a great manager or a better manager than Torre. One guy has a losing record a zero accomplishment as a manager and the other is going to the HOF.
Truth lies somewhere in the middle of Pete’s view and the view that says “Girardi is a great manager”. It’ll take more time to get there for some than others apparently.
So this is the thread where trolls complain about the latest Clemens accusasion? Great.
Big test for the Moose tonight, can he deliver a quality start back-to-back and can he do it against a quality lineup?
Saw Sal Fasano catch with the Richmond Braves a little over a week ago here in Rochester against our Red Wings – Sal shaved off the mustache!
btw brandon inge is a really good idea, he could double as a backup catcher and infield replacement.
JMO = J@ckA$$ Most Obvious
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RIGHT ???
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I wonder if it’ll be Laffey Taffy night at the Jake, err, Progressive Field. (banana’s the best!)
How about Joe Girardi?
Pete – I don’t know if you’ll see a comment all the way down here, but I am wondering if you have a response to the NYYFans article James references at 2:17. The article voices much of the reaction I have had to some of your negatives posts about Girardi. Girardi has not mastered the art of seeming to say something when he is really saying nothing, so therefore some of his substantive answers that wind up being contradicted are for some reason used as evidence against him. In the post-game, the reporters seem to want to push him for answers to questions he is just not prepared to answer. He clearly consults others on his staff before he commits to something. The beat reporters have such excellent coverage of the Yankees, it seems like sometimes you guys know more than he does, or want him to reach a conclusion when he is clearly not ready. I’m not sure if I am seeing the nefarious motives that you are seeing, but then again I’m not there every day like you are. Again, I’d be interested to hear your response to the article and I agree with the premise that you’ve been on Girardi’s case more than is necessary. But maybe I’m missing something.
James –
That was an interesting take on Pete’s perspective though I think it was overly sensitive. Seems like Pete had a ton of respect for Torre and doesn’t have the same rapport with Girardi.
I also think reporters prefer to have a manager answer their questions and give them information that is accurate – which Girardi essentially has chosen not to do.
At least Pete is described as a “Rock Star” – who knew?
JMO, each state’s laws are different, in terms of age of consent, romeo and juliet laws and statute of limitations. also, even if you are withheld bail, it’s never because there’s a presumption of guilt. everyone starts out innocent, even if they are withheld bail for other reasons. trisha is a lawyer, and she is correct (i am a lawyer too, and i’ll back her up).
“Patrick, confirm meaning that you are correct that bail for the majority of alleged crimes is done on a case-by-case basis.”
“And JMO you are required to give a total presumption of innocence to any crime brought before the justice system and have to do so unless and until the government proves its case.”
Thanks Trisha
Seems like Phil Allard left his sense humor at the bar.
Does he really think Pete’s blog entry of Torre 1 Girardi 0 on ejections is a reflection of Pete’s bias against Girardi?
Geez, it was a joke.
When did so many Yankee fans lose their sense of humor?
Folks, its baseball. In the grand scheme of things, if Pete has to write only about baseball without cracking wise or breaking it up with Springsteen references, etc, he’s better off shutting down the blog.
Its all of that, besides Yankee info that has made the blog popular in the first place.
Perhaps that’s the issue Allard has with Pete. Perhaps the popularity of this blog impacts other Yankee blogs.
What better way to attempt to change it by labeling Pete “Anti-Yankee” or “Anti-Girardi”?
Instead of looking for the boogeyman in everything Pete writes, why can’t Allard and the like think for a minute.
For a beat writer like Pete, its a BETTER story if the Yankees are successful. That makes for more interesting stories, more career opportunities (such as the Wang book and other pursuits) and its always much easier to work a beat of a winning team.
In other words, the Yankees winning, and Girardi being successful, is EXACTLY what Pete wants because its good for business.
What does Pete get for having a “feud” with Girardi? Nothing.
As I wrote last night, the fact is, Girardi was untruthful about Bruney. Allard was wrong about the fact that Girardi/Yankees needed more time to evaluate Bruney’s condition before releasing information.
I knew the night it happened he suffered a liz franc fracture and I wasn’t in Chicago and I’m not a reporter. That diagnosis was confirmed by the two doctors who examined Bruney the night it happened. Both Girardi and the Yankees knew Bruney’s condition the night they left the clubhouse.
Bruney went to NY in the hopes another opinion would yield a non-surgical answer to his injury. That wasn’t the case.
As was discussed last night in here, Girardi not wanting to give up certain info (ie: bullpen availability on a given day) is not the issue. He’ correct to do so, IMO.
The issue is being untruthful in the information he does give to reporters.
That’s just not necessary and it will end up being a problem for Girardi if it continues.
Its always a feeling out process between the beat writers and a new manager. It will be a lot easier for Girardi if he works out a compromise with the beat guys.
For instance, if he can’t tell the truth (which, in some instances, he won’t be able to do) then don’t say anything.
That way, you don’t put yourself in a position to “misremember” what you told reporters.
Pete has no Girardi bias. It serves him no purpose to have one. He just wants to do his job.
Seems to me its a situation in which compromises can be easily obtained to make it better for everybody.
JMO-
I’m with you. Unforgivable behavior on Clemens part. I can’t beleive you are getting an argument here. This is not laptops – its a 15 year old girl and a 28 year old man – for cryin out loud!
Imagine that she was your daughter/neice.
mel
Yes, Bruney did. But thanks to your warning, I was ready for it. At least he ripped the band-aid off quick rather than killing me slowly all year long.
The vets seem to have trouble with pitchers they haven’t faced before unless they are awful. I’m hoping Laffey is awful and Mussina can hold it close until everyone gets a good look at Laffey.
Jorge Tabata… Yea fatso Francesa that is his name
murphdog,
i put up with you and sj and others making excuses for rocket all winter, not defending him, just making excuses. its so freaking chicken-crap of you.
now we add rapist to the list and here you go tap dancing again, and on top of that, you infer that i might be a rapist too.
nice form.
if there was a video of clemens actully stabbing a guy to death, you and sj and others would say the guy might have died of a heart attack milliseconds before the blade cut him..
yeah, it might have, and roger might have just been giving that underaged girl some candy, and MJ really didnt do anything with those kids, and pete rose never bet on baseball.
o thats right, im sorry, after a gizzillion chicken crap people like you defended rose for 15 years (presumption of innocence) he admitted he did to it!
Jimmy27,
It wouldn’t be my daughter. I’d watch my 15-year old like a hawk around anyone over the age of, let’s say, 10 years old. Especially if she’s a starlet.
Ultimately it’s the parent’s responsiblity to watch for the child’s welfare. In this case, the girl’s mother failed, especially if she was sucked in by Roger’s rock star status.
murphdog,
i put up with you and sj and others making excuses for rocket all winter, not defending him, just making excuses. its so freaking chicken-crap of you.
now we add rapist to the list and here you go tap dancing again, and on top of that, you infer that i might be a rapist too.
nice form.
if there was a video of clemens actully stabbing a guy to death, you and sj and others would say the guy might have died of a heart attack milliseconds before the blade cut him..
yeah, it might have, and roger might have just been giving that underaged girl some candy, and MJ really didnt do anything with those kids, and pete rose never bet on baseball.
o thats right, im sorry, after a gizzillion chicken crap people like you defended rose for 15 years (presumption of innocence) he admitted he did it!
Jimmy 27, I agree with JMO and you on Clemens, totally because I don’t believe a word that comes out of his mouth.
However as we all know, all of this is for the justice system and not us. So I see it as pointless discussion. And yes, it’s true that nobody here knows anything for sure, any of us included.
The Yankees wouldn’t clean out their farm system for Santana why would they do it for Oswalt?
Doesn’t sound like he wants to be in NY anyway.
“Jorge Tabata… Yea fatso Francesa that is his name”
I literally was speechless when he said that and even went as far as to suggest Houston would want Jorge Tabata, the CF kid and a pitching prospect…
“I also think reporters prefer to have a manager answer their questions and give them information that is accurate – which Girardi essentially has chosen not to do.”
That’s the point in a nutshell. It’s one thing to be artless in crafting a response, but it’s another thing to risk your credibility by stretching the truth or being overly defensive and rigid in your interpretation of facts.
But as I suggested earlier, Pete gives us the feel of the locker room. The feel right now is that maybe Girardi is going to be a combative, unhelpful media skipper. Pete can play it either way, and still get his info. But Girardi is still in the process of building a rep and we are hearing from Pete, one of the people Girardi is directly interacting with. This is first hand stuff, not mutterings from unnamed baseball execs.
Take the information for what it’s worth and stay tuned.
wait, what is this about Roy Oswalt? is there a rumor making the rounds?
TurnTwo the rumors are bogus but the talk is annoying from FatCessa
Odds that Hank is calling up Piazza’s agent right now? I mean, he’s probably the only player that Hank’s heard of on the list.
Trisha
I agree.
Turn that garbage off. You’re helping their ratings.
if its coming from Fatcessa than it has to be annoying drivel, but what kind of nonsense is he spewing? how did it come into conversation? did he just bring it up?
I am not taking sides or anything, but, SJ44, if you haven’t noticed how sardonic Pete can be, and how that might be evidence of an agenda, I don’t know what to tell you.
Who is more likely to nit pick things like constantly changing the lineup, someone who is joking around or someone who is trying to make a point?
How about Pete with Hughes? He got his big ‘I told you so’ when Hughes popped his hammy.
i think jo. mo. will be fine behind there. i think he’s a gamer he may not walk that much but i like how he puts the ball in play. its true that its all about defense for a backup catcher. thats why liked having flaherty back up jorge. no reason to part with anyone or an absurd amount of money for a very temporary catching fix. hell, put morganberg or shelley back there for a game or two why not?
I read this blog religiously, and I don’t think Pete has any anti-Girardi bias, at least none that I’ve detected. If I remember correctly, Pete was pretty positive towards Joe during the off-season and ST. What I do think is that Pete, like any journalist, doesn’t like being deliberately misled.
Getting accurate information is a reporter’s business.
So, I’m curious JMO since you want to make this an issue, you have proof that Clemens raped anybody? If you do, you don’t mind sharing it with the rest of us, do you?
Or, are you going by the Daily News story this morning to draw your conclusions? A story the Clemens side denies.
I have no idea what relationship Clemens had or didn’t have with Mindy McCready.
Fact is, neither do you.
So, here’s a thought. Why don’t you wait until facts come out before you get on the soapbox?
Neither murph or I endorse rape. We just have this funny little habit of waiting until facts come out before forming an opinion on a matter as serious as rape.
I know, its crazy to be that way but, what can you do?
Brandon: Why do you always listen to them when it’s obvious you can’t stand them?
Roy Oswalt laughed when asked about rumors he was interested in waiving his no-trade clause.
Peter Gammons had raised the possibility on ESPN’s “Baseball Tonight,” with the Yankees being the likely destination for Oswalt. “I don’t know where he’s getting that from. That came out of left field somewhere. I don’t know if he just brought it up or if he heard it from somewhere. I don’t know where he got it,” Oswalt said.
Paulino would be a great fit. Pittsburgh needs starting pitching, so Phil Hughes would seem like a good trade. It would be good for Phil, as he’d get used to the big leagues in a place where the games don’t matter. If the Bucs won’t do that straight-up, throw in Giambi and pay his salary. Although the Pirates don’t need a DH, perhaps he would be alright playing first bsse where wins and losses don’t matter.
So, if this turns out similar to Duke lacrosse, would there be apologies or it’ll just be quietly buried away, harm done with no price? Just saying, since it is a possibility that there was no sexual activity between the two when it would’ve been illegal.
I think a lot of people who come here are either sensitive to Pete or have little man syndrome and want to jump on Pete for every little thing.
The man has responsiblity to himself as a journalist and to his employer, the Journal News. No one else.
Newsflash: Peter Abraham is not a machine and he’s not a historian. That means everything he writes will have a slant, intentional or not.
His job is to create interest in the paper, and more immediately here on the blog. Not to coddle and please millions of faceless, nameless people on his blog.
Thank you, Pete, for letting us crash at your pad while you’re out doing your thing. You’re doing a great job. Just less Springsteen (j/k) and more Patriots (j/k). Where’s your Patriot draft analysis thread?
p.s. This is an adjustment period for Girardi the manager (mistakes will be made) and Girardi the communicator. Maybe a little more patience as he has a lot of balls to juggle? Losing Bruney and possibly Jorge (not enough info to make any type of statement) is a big blow right now.
JMO:
He’s a rapist? I must have missed the trial.
A gazillion chicken crap people like me are lawyers who are there to defend people like you from all the morons who prejudge others to be guilty based on rumor and unreliable witnesses with motives to shade the truth. We also stand up to law breaking prosecutors and Corrupt Governors who try to hurt innocent people for their own political gains (Mike Nifong and Eliot Spitzer). Sorry you have to put up with all that chickencrap.
But if you are ever accused of a crime, just promise to be consistent and go plead guilty to the top count at arraignment and demand the maximum sentence without a lawyer or trial or the right to confront witnesses or the right to challenge evidence seized from you by police or statements taken from you by the police…
Why don’t you crawl back into your double wide and wait for the rapture?
mark-
get rid of our 4th starter and the consensus future of the franchise to pick up a bum catcher that will only be used for MAYBE the rest of this season? have you watched baseball? ever?
Jerkface,
Hughes is very friendly with Pete. I doubt seriously Pete wants to see somebody he has become friendly with fail.
As far as the lineups? I hate to tell ya, but there are guys in the locker room who are unhappy about the daily lineup changes. And they aren’t the usual suspects in that regard.
Like it or not, it is a topic of conversation in the Yankee locker room and Pete has correctly picked up on it and reported it. That’s his job.
mark alan
that post is a joke right??
if not please get real. The Yankees are not trading a pitcher like HUghes for a backup catcher
pete- that writing aganst you is pritty harh! just interseted if you have any response?
let me just say, i’m sure all of this Oswalt talk is just pure nonsense.
that being said, who wouldnt be interested in importing a healthy Roy Oswalt to pitch at the front of the rotation between Wang and Pettitte?
Difference between Oswalt and Johan being that Oswalt is already signed to the deal, meaning there is no extention, and no outrageous new salary thresholds being broken.
of course recognizing this is all pure speculation, but not for nothing, but I’d package a couple of young players for Oswalt.
Chad Moeller situation:
In a ‘designated for assignment’ situation – he can clear waivers in just 2 business days. The question is: WHEN did they place him on ‘assignment waviers’ – as that information is not made public.
If they did so on Friday – we’ll know tomorrow.
It is NOT a 10 day waiver period (DFA status lasts UP TO 10 days… but a player does not spend most of that time on waivers… that’s where people get confused)
And since he would potentially be sent outright to AAA if he goes unclaimed (and not optioned) – he does NOT have to wait any sort of set time in Scranton before being able to come back. Yankees can repurchase his contract immediately.
“Brandon: Why do you always listen to them when it’s obvious you can’t stand them?”
Rebecca it’s simple, later one of my co-workers or later this week some of my friends who believe in his drival needs to be deprogrammed so I listen so I can know where the source of thier stupid thoughts come from when we get into debates. Like not so long ago they spewing the get Cano to AAA theory I found out the source of it came from this drival, the Joba fist pump I found out same thing, so now I can debate stupidity w/ common sense. Anyone notice how FatBoy hasn’t spoken on the Joel Sherman Joba article I wonder why ….