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Wang OK; Little Stein speaks up

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 02, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Wang had a cramp in his base of his hand in the sixth inning, which is why he left the game after 90 pitches. He said it went away after the trainers applied some heat.

Given that he was pitching in Ice Station Zebra, it’s no wonder.

Wang is 22-6 after a loss in his career, winning the last 11 in such situations. He’s now 6-0, 3.00 this season. But keep in mind that he is not an ace.

Please.

Meanwhile, as the Yankees go through some turmoil, co-chairperson Hank Steinbrenner issued some supportive words from Tampa.

“I’m very disappointed with the way the season has gone, period,” he told the AP. “The injuries have been a killer, too, there’s no question about that. It happens to one team every year, sometimes more than one team. And it just appears to be our year. It’s something you’ve got to deal with in every sport.

“We just can’t win one out of five games, every time Wang pitches. It’s not going to work. It’s not a good win percentage. Starting pitching is where it’s at, especially in the postseason. At this point, we’ll see if we even make the postseason.”

If we even make the postseason? Not exactly win one for the Gipper.

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72 Responses to “Wang OK; Little Stein speaks up”

  1. S.A.-I am still happy Phil Hughes was saved! May 2nd, 2008 at 11:06 pm

    I was wondering when we would hear from Hank :|

    Glad to hear Wang is alright.

  2. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 2nd, 2008 at 11:08 pm

    Joba to the starting rotation coming soon…(June)

  3. Scott May 2nd, 2008 at 11:09 pm

    Dear Hank,

    SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT UP.

    Thanks,
    Scott

  4. Bob May 2nd, 2008 at 11:10 pm

    Thanks for chiming in Hank.

    Surprised he didn’t moan about not gettign Santana.

  5. Andiamo May 2nd, 2008 at 11:12 pm

    Oh Hank, I am getting sooooo tired of you.

  6. Dee May 2nd, 2008 at 11:13 pm

    “We just can’t win one out of five games, every time Wang pitches.”

    Moose and Andy win games too. This is perfect timing for another one of Moose’s I’ll-show-you-big-mouth-Hank wins tomorrow.

    And panicking about post-season already? Sounds like one of the crazies on this blog. Maybe Hank is anti-Mussina.

  7. Steinbrenner fan May 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    He’s right now and he was right when he wanted to trade Hughes and Melky for Santana.
    Sub Total: another bad move by Cashman by not making the move.

  8. RustyJohn May 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Hey Hank, there are times when speaking up is needed and when you just need to shut up. Right now is one of those times when you just need to shut up.

    What is it with rich guys who are Daddy’s boys who think they can inspire the working class or athletes? When you lose some weight, quit smoking and can control your outbursts perhaps you would then have the moral authroity to talk about hard work, self-discipline and motivation.

  9. David May 2nd, 2008 at 11:14 pm

    Haha, but Hank is 100% right. Every time Joba pitches in the 8th Hank probably cringes because he sees what the rotation is now, and what it potentially could be with a little Joba boost.

  10. Nick in SF May 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    Paging Jamie Moyer.

  11. jennifer- I got your back Girardi May 2nd, 2008 at 11:15 pm

    Um we won Mike’s last two starts.

  12. Jeff NJ May 2nd, 2008 at 11:17 pm

    I thought Hank only talks the day before an off day? Sounds like someone got to him early, but expect a Hank-plosion on Monday.

  13. #9 May 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Was worry there for awhile – we did not hear Lil’ Stein pontificate in almost 2 weeks!

    BTW Hank – hope you enjoyed seeing Bobby Murcer back tonight and wish him all the best… there is more to life than wins and losses in the AL East…

  14. RustyJohn May 2nd, 2008 at 11:20 pm

    Yes, postseason ERA and postseason wins are what make a person an ace, which is why those slouches Randy Johnson, Tom Glavine, Greg Maddux and Roger Clemons should not be considered aces given their average or subpar records but Jeff Weaver should be since he was stellar in the 2006 postseason.

  15. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 May 2nd, 2008 at 11:21 pm

    Glad Wang is okay.

    Hank makes me laugh.

    And I almost reversed that to say that Hank is okay and Wang makes me laugh. Which might very well be true, but I’ve never met Wang. Or Hank.

  16. Nick in SF May 2nd, 2008 at 11:23 pm

    Ace shmace. Whether Wang is a mythical “Ace” may be an open question, but there’s no doubt whatsoever that Wang is THE ace of the Yanks’ staff right now. Unless your closer can be your ace. But your closer can’t be your ace, so it’s Wang.

  17. Eugie May 2nd, 2008 at 11:24 pm

    “Haha, but Hank is 100% right. Every time Joba pitches in the 8th Hank probably cringes because he sees what the rotation is now, and what it potentially could be with a little Joba boost.”

    Hank doesn’t know what is going on. He wasn’t following baseball until recently. Hell, Cashman had to explain to him the Joba rules of last year after his last outburst.

    Keep this in mind. Hank wasn’t even George’s first pick to run this aspect of the team. George originally wanted his daughters former fiance to run this aspect, but they broke up. That alone has to speak volumes about Hank and Hal.

  18. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 2nd, 2008 at 11:25 pm

    there’s nothing surprising here, Hank just keeping people refreshed, Joba is going into the rotation, that’s all this means, and he’s speaking about the last 3 games…minimizing why SP is more valueable then the BP..for the keep Joba as a SU man crew :D

    GO HANK !

  19. #9 May 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Dear Hank,

    I’m disappointed in the ticket prices this year – can you do something about that soon?!

    -#9

  20. geO {yankees crystal ball} May 2nd, 2008 at 11:28 pm

    Im sorry but can this guy (Steinbrenner) just shut up! In the words of Vincent Kennedy McMahon…

    Shhhhhhhhuutttt Up!?!

  21. rip rizzuto May 2nd, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Per ESPN, as of right now Chien-Ming “not an ace” Wang is fifth in the AL in strikeouts. Oh yes.

  22. David May 2nd, 2008 at 11:31 pm

    Eugie you can say all those things about Hank, but in reality, he’s done nothing wrong yet. I think he’s just afraid of the very realistic situation that they wait too long to put Joba in the rotation and when he gets there the Yankees are 7 games back and Joba feels he has to throw a no-hitter every time he takes the mound, which would be the worst thing possible for Joba Chamberlain to think.

    And true dat’ Brandon, if Hank doesn’t stay on this issue I get afraid it could just slip right by, so it’s good he keeps emphasizing it. YES should have a show where Hank gives his feelings after each Yankee game. It would be the highest rated television program in cable history.

  23. #9 May 2nd, 2008 at 11:32 pm

    Dear Hank,

    Why do I have to pay $8.50 for a Bud at your stadium? what can you do about hat… soon?

    -#9

  24. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 May 2nd, 2008 at 11:36 pm

    I’d love to see Pete do a mailbag/interview with Hank.

    That would be incredible.

  25. #9 May 2nd, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    Dear Hank,

    Do you think that the average fan can or will be ever to afford to bring his wife and 2 kids (parking, tix, beer, dogs & typical things kids want) out for a game any time soon?

    Do you care?

    -#9

  26. YanksAngel May 2nd, 2008 at 11:37 pm

    “Moose and Andy win games too. This is perfect timing for another one of Moose’s I’ll-show-you-big-mouth-Hank wins tomorrow.”

    Agreed Dee

    I think in his post-game interview after a win, he should say ‘Not bad for someone who can’t win. I guess Hank will have to call me Wang Version 2.0 from now on’

  27. ltyf May 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    I didn’t know that strikeouts defines a pitcher as an ace. Here I thought it was about winning games. There is no pitcher in baseball, none, that has won more games than Wang over the last 3 years. I repeat none. If that’s not an ace, then I don’t know what is. He did have a poor post season, but that can happen to any pitcher. His win against the Indians this year, shows that he has become an even better pitcher. Barring any injuries, he should win 20 to 23 games this year.

  28. PayRod May 2nd, 2008 at 11:38 pm

    Wang postseason ERA: 7.58. ACE !!!!!!!!!!!!!

    LOL.Wanger.

  29. RustyJohn May 2nd, 2008 at 11:39 pm

    Hank hasn’t done anything wrong yet? I’m sure that the players really appreciate (one of) their bosses getting down their crap every other day because lord knows there isn’t enough constant media attention and pressure. I’m sure IPK feels much better about his next start.

  30. robthompson May 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    Hey Hank,

    Go hug a goat.

  31. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 2nd, 2008 at 11:41 pm

    sooooo …… if Moose does one up Hank, technically it was Hank’s way of helping him pitch better :lol:

  32. Jones May 2nd, 2008 at 11:42 pm

    hank,

    you’re an idiot. you haven’t done a thing on your own. you don’t know an thing about baseball. keep quiet.

    thank you,

    Jones

  33. #9 May 2nd, 2008 at 11:43 pm

    Dear Hank,

    Hope Wall Street survives all this credit mess so your corporate boxes won’t be empty next year.

    -#9

  34. Steve May 2nd, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    They don’t even live in New York.

  35. Eugie May 2nd, 2008 at 11:45 pm

    Eugie you can say all those things about Hank, but in reality, he’s done nothing wrong yet. I think he’s just afraid of the very realistic situation that they wait too long to put Joba in the rotation and when he gets there the Yankees are 7 games back and Joba feels he has to throw a no-hitter every time he takes the mound, which would be the worst thing possible for Joba Chamberlain to think. ”

    Dave, I’m sorry but he doesn’t think that because he hasn’t followed baseball until recently. How can someone in the front office make those previous comments about Joba in relief last year? He’s oblivious to what is going on. The quotes they’re getting from this guy are just words from someone else’s mouth whispered into Hanks ear.

  36. PoPo May 2nd, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    Hank.

    Shut your fat, Marlboro puffing, mouth. If you knew 1/3 as much about baseball as you think you did, I could take your stupid comments. Unfortunately you don’t, so I can’t.

  37. Andrea May 2nd, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    whoa. no love for Hank on the lohud blog.

    oh, Hank. when will you ever learn to shut it?

  38. #9 May 2nd, 2008 at 11:48 pm

    Dear Hank,

    Will you lower ticket prices next year if Yankees have losing season since you happily raised them during the winning years?

    -#9

  39. Ummmmmmm..... May 2nd, 2008 at 11:49 pm

    I don’t know why so many people are killing Hank here.

    Yeah, what he’s saying isn’t exactly a Cashman-like PC statement: but at least 90% of you are thinking exactly what he blurted out. Why? Because it’s true.

    - The season has been almost a complete disaster so far.

    - The Yankees starting pitching sucks.

    - If the Yankees are going to make the postseason they need more quality innings from somebody other than Wang.

    - Can somebody stay healthy on this team already?

    What did he say that is some randomly goofy inaccurate assessment? Thank god we have somebody on the club who says exactly what he feels.

  40. ANDY` May 2nd, 2008 at 11:49 pm

    At least it is better than “I will fire everyone and trade everyone if yankees don’t win.”

  41. #9 May 2nd, 2008 at 11:51 pm

    “What did he say that is some randomly goofy inaccurate assessment?”

    Nobody…

  42. Cy Endfield May 2nd, 2008 at 11:52 pm

    Oh NO! The damn cold has claimed another Yankee as a victim. I hope Wang will be able to make his next start.

  43. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 2nd, 2008 at 11:53 pm

    “Oh NO! The damn cold has claimed another Yankee as a victim. I hope Wang will be able to make his next start.”

    WTF are you talking about ?

  44. S.A.-I am still happy Phil Hughes was saved! May 2nd, 2008 at 11:57 pm

    Well..
    There is always something going on in Yankees land.

  45. Binbino May 2nd, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    Someone please tell me why Wang is not an ace. Please. He will be an ace wherever he goes.

  46. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 May 2nd, 2008 at 11:59 pm

    15-16 is not a complete disaster.

    Disappointing? Yes.

    Disaster to the point that the Yankees cannot recover? Not quite.

  47. Old-timer May 3rd, 2008 at 12:00 am

    Clearly, none of the people here (over)-reacting to Hank’s pontificating were fans during the heyday Papa Sr. Hank is a model of decorum and restraint compared to George when George was younger. Those were the days! (And even younger fans surely remember George’s Hideki “Fat Toad” Irabu comment!)

    Personally, I prefer a loudmouth owner who cares about being competitive over CBS or Tribune-type corporate owners who just want to make a buck any day of the week.

  48. crawdaddie May 3rd, 2008 at 12:01 am

    Pete,
    If you and your collegues want Hank to shutup then stop calling him to get quotes from him. What do you expect him to say from Tampa? He needs to his team to pitch better for them to make the playoffs which he is right about.

  49. YanksAngel May 3rd, 2008 at 12:05 am

    Rays trying to come back. 6-3 now. 2 on, 2 out

  50. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 3rd, 2008 at 12:08 am

    Chris Paul robbed of the MVP, Kobe wins it in 2008

  51. #9 May 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 am

    “I don’t know why so many people are killing Hank here.”

    Who is killing him?

    If you are going to be an outspoken owner, like Hank, then you are open Game.

    And let’s face it – it’s fair game for the average fan to criticize ownership – most working folks can no longer afford to go to games – something that is not brought up enough by fans.

    Gas prices are rising, food costs are rising… the Steins do not care… they’ll get the $$ from Corp America Inc.

    Shame on all you Hank bashers!

  52. Tony R May 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 am

    #9,
    you’re my new favorite

  53. YankeesTech May 3rd, 2008 at 12:24 am

    Normally when demand is high for a commodity like a seat in yankees stadium prices go up not down.

    Basic Economics 9#

  54. #9 May 3rd, 2008 at 12:32 am

    “Normally when demand is high for a commodity like a seat in yankees stadium prices go up not down.”

    Especially when Corporations are competing & winning with the average fan for seats… keep drinking th Kool-aid YanksTech…

  55. Allen 20 May 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 am

    Arguing who is the ACE pitcher is nonsense. Everybody could be the ACE. And nobody can always be the ACE. Now has gone. Let’s wish Yankees have at least four other ACEs next to Chien-Mng Wang. No more argument on that.

  56. NJ in Tampa May 3rd, 2008 at 12:55 am

    We’re 8-16 in games Wang doesn’t start. Whats so wrong about what he said?

  57. #9 May 3rd, 2008 at 1:05 am

    “We’re 8-16 in games Wang doesn’t start. Whats so wrong about what he said?”

    Nothing – what’s wrong in questioning why the average working man has to pay for a mediocre team… the Steins sure like to talk about how much they pay players… so why can’t we complain about how much we have to pay watching a below .500 team?

    Life is a 2 way street…

  58. die'suc'k May 3rd, 2008 at 1:23 am

    Let Wang prove his caliber this October, and see if he is an ace. I can feel he change a lot and make quite a lot of progress this season. So maybe this October we can see a different Wang.

  59. NJ in Tampa May 3rd, 2008 at 1:38 am

    “We’re 8-16 in games Wang doesn’t start. Whats so wrong about what he said?”

    Nothing – what’s wrong in questioning why the average working man has to pay for a mediocre team… the Steins sure like to talk about how much they pay players… so why can’t we complain about how much we have to pay watching a below .500 team?

    Life is a 2 way street…

    Ummm because its a business. If people were buying your product, even if you kept on raising the prices it wouldn’t bother you either. You don’t have to buy the tickets, someone else will.

  60. Steph May 3rd, 2008 at 2:18 am

    “We just can’t win one out of five games, every time Wang pitches. It’s not going to work. It’s not a good win percentage.”

    A .200 isn’t a good win percentage? Nah, what gave him that idea?

  61. Vrsce May 3rd, 2008 at 7:19 am

    #9

    You must be as poor as dirt to have such a hate on for Hank.

    Jealousy is a poison

  62. Irene Liu fm Tainan TAIWAN May 3rd, 2008 at 7:25 am

    Pete,
    “But keep in mind that he is not an ace. Please.”
    You have a good sense of humor; well….you make me laugh!!
    You guys, as long as Chien-ming can win, it dosen’t matter whether Chien-ming is an ACE or not. Take ease and enjoy the entertainment games; for me, it is such a blessing to watching the game Chien-Ming on the mound in addition to all the games of Yankee.

    Melky, a lovely kid, is making a big progress this year, and Molina make great guide for Wang……..all the Yankee teammates put together to get wins……….go!!!!!!!!!! Yankee!!!!!!!!!!!

  63. Don Vito A. Bellamo May 3rd, 2008 at 7:39 am

    Pete,,,,you totally got me. I was really expecting to hear some “support” from Stein ! You crack me up, dude !

  64. Rick May 3rd, 2008 at 7:51 am

    Always remember it has the Steinbrenner money that has been there for the Yankees in the thick and thin to try to build this team. Sometimes it hasn’t worked but more often than not it has worked especially over the last decade. Go cheer for the Minnesota Twins if you need a silent owner who does nothing for his team.

  65. soxfan May 3rd, 2008 at 8:15 am

    Many of the folks here may or may not remember Hank’s dear old dad saying similar comments, and much more pointed. Good entertainment.

    Since you can’t call out players anymore (not PC, union will be upset, etc) at least he is saying what is (for the most part) true.

    Peter’s comment “….Gipper” is great.

    Plus, Hank is not a Felon like dear ‘ol Dad. Or at least has not been brought up on charges.

  66. JMO May 3rd, 2008 at 8:41 am

    Hank is smarter than all of you think…he does not make unconsidered pronouncements:

    1) He’s creating space for Cashman…classic good cop/bad cop.

    2) He likens Mussina to Jamie Moyer and Moose responds with 2 good starts…that’s called motivation, kids.

  67. whoa May 3rd, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Hank spoke the obvious.

  68. Yankee Usher May 3rd, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Of cause, Cm Wang is not Yankees’ ace because he cannot win more than one in every Yankees’ five games and also, his name is not Roger Clements.

  69. #9 May 3rd, 2008 at 10:57 am

    “You must be as poor as dirt to have such a hate on for Hank.

    Jealousy is a poison”

    Vrsce you must be a very wealthy/rich person!

    Ignorance is bliss.

  70. sunny615 May 3rd, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    Is he wrong?

  71. kyle May 3rd, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    #9 I think you sound somewhat cynical.
    We can shut him up simply because he is wealthy and stupid.
    Hope JMO is right about Hank, nice interpretation, JMO.

    Wang can’t stay that hot all along, but he is really a gift as old Joe said before. Hopefully, SP problem will be solved, Rasner, Karstens, Igawa can fill the hole.

    Even Kyle can try as a SP. huh~

  72. ryanloghry May 3rd, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    I can only imagine that Big Stein smiles when he reads those quotes. Soxfan is right, Hank is a watered down version of his father, trying to motivate the troops. It may make you cringe sometimes, but it’s his team.

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