Game 35: Indians at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 07, 2008 
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YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Duncan 1B
Matsui DH
Cabrera CF
Cano 2B
Ensberg 3B
Molina C
Wang RHP
Chien-Ming Wang vs. the Cleveland hitters.
Cliff Lee vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees are 8-8 at home, 9-9 on the road and 7-7 in games decided by one or two runs. They’re 4-4 against lefties and 13-13 against righties. Those trends are certainly telling, aren’t they?
Kyle Farnsworth (yes, Kyle Farnsworth) has allowed one run on four hits over his last 6.2 innings with two walks and nine strikeouts. I’m not sure I’m prepared for a world where Krazy Kyle can be counted on.
Derek Jeter is 10 of his last 22 with seven runs scored. … Hideki Matsui has hit in 15 straight at 20 of 60. He is 7 of 13 over the last three. … Mariano Rivera has thrown 164 pitches this season, 115 of them strikes. Of the 49 balls, 22 were on two-strike counts when he was likely misisng on purpose to expand the strike zone. So of the 142 times he was trying to throw a strike, he was successful 115 times. Crazy.
Back later with updates. It’s another beautiful day in the Bronx.
UPDATE, 6:12 p.m.: A-Rod worked out just now. He did a series of sprints in the outfield (“About 70, 75 percent,” he said), then he took grounders for about 10 minutes before hitting in the cage.
He’ll head to Tampa tomorrow (along with Jorge Posada and Phil Hughes) and ramp it up a bit as each day passes. The plan is for him to play in extended spring training games on Monday and Tuesday in Tampa.
Here’s why: As those are generally informal games, he can hit leadoff every inning and get 12 at-bats over two days. Plus those games are during the day. If that goes well, he’ll be activated on Wednesday.
“I’m very optimistic,” he said. “I don’t feel anything in my leg.”
Kudos to the Yankees and Joe Girardi, by the way, for delivering the info on A-Rod.
As for other stuff: No word on Kyle Farnsworth’s appeal yet. … Girardi said he expects Kei Igawa will get at least two starts to show them what he can do. … The pitchers had mandatory fielding practice before the game.
Tonight’s game between Wang (6-0) and Lee (5-0) is the first time two pitchers with at least a 5-0 record have met since May 8, 1988 when Dave Stewart (7-0) of Oakland faced Greg Swindell (6-0) of Cleveland. Nice bit of research from the Elias Sports Bureau.
A few other stats of note:
Lefties are 5 for 41 against Lee this season. … Jeter’s walk yesterday was his fourth of the season. He had 16 after 35 games last season.
Enjoy the game. It should be a good one.
UPDATE, 8:21 p.m.: Cliff Lee is living up to his statistics. 4 1 0 0 0 4 so far. Two Yankees have gotten the ball out of the infield twice and one was a bloop single by Matsui (who has now hit in 16 straight games).
Wang is not pitching badly by any means, but two runs look like a mountain now.
The only good news tonight might be that A-Rod was back on the field taking BP before the game. This lineup needs the MVP back in a hurry.
UPDATE, 8:29 p.m.: OK, I take that back. Wang is pitching badly. His two-seamer is all over the place. 3-0 Indians.
No offense to Eric Wedge, but trying to steal third there is a stupid play with your No. 4 hitter up. How much advantage are you gaining there at the risk of an out?
UPDATE, 9:16 p.m.: On most nights, Wang pitched well enough to win. 7 5 3 3 3 4. But not against Cliff Lee and the roll he is on this season.
UPDATE, 9:33 p.m.: Check out these season stats for Cliff Lee: 44.2 innings, 25 hits, 2 walks, 39 strikeouts. He has an 0.81 ERA.
Never before have the Yankees been so glad to see Rafael Perez.
I like this line up.
“The Yankees are 8-8 at home, 9-9 on the road and 7-7 in games decided by one or two runs. They’re 4-4 against lefties and 13-13 against righties.”
This we’ve been playing .500 ball or what?
What’s the day/night splits?
Shelley Duncan batting clean up again…man this team is hurting right now.
I’d like it a lot more with A-Rod 4th, Duncan 6th, and Melky 7th. Even more, with Posada 5th, and Duncan 7th, but the Baseball Gods, are a merciless bunch.
“I’d like it a lot more with A-Rod 4th, Duncan 6th, and Melky 7th. Even more, with Posada 5th, and Duncan 7th, but the Baseball Gods, are a merciless bunch.”
Should start happening in a week and in full with Posada by June. Thats why its too soon to count this team out in May.
Kill Schill: I meant, with all things considered
“I’d like it a lot more with A-Rod 4th, Duncan 6th, and Melky 7th. Even more, with Posada 5th, and Duncan 7th, but the Baseball Gods, are a merciless bunch.â€
Less of Duncan the better. I’m alright with him against tough lefties, but other than that I wouldn’t want him in the lineup.
“Less of Duncan the better. I’m alright with him against tough lefties, but other than that I wouldn’t want him in the lineup.”
Isn’t that exactly what’s been going on?
I would have gone
Damon
Cabrera
Jeter
Abreu
Matsui
Duncan
Cano
Ensberg
Molina
Whozat:
It is. My point is that it should stay that way. Neither 1B alternative is very good, but in this Land of Oz, Giambi is clearly the tallest munchkin to me.
wonder how long it takes the quitters brigade lead by sj44 to come out ton
What’s the day/night splits?
50% of the time it’s day ,and 50% of the time it’s night.
Go Yankees!
Shelley shouldn’t be hitting cleanup and betemit should be at third, imo
Torre on a day that Broxton clearly doesn’t have it, is leaving him out there to hang vs the Mets, I remember this sight..I know it too well
randy: LMAO!
can someone please explain to me how a horrible pitcher like cliff lee has such an incredible era and whip? steroids?
Mike,
If you think I am a quitter, you aren’t very bright.
Save your pom poms for someone who cares.
Brandon, there’s always times that a pitcher has to take one for the team. That being said, Torre doesn’t know how to work a bullpen that isn’t made up of Stanton, Nelson, and Rivera.
This lineup looks almost exactly like one someone predicted earlier today. With the injuries we have now, this is the best we can do against lefties IMO.
So Cliff Lee has been amazing this year and his numbers are gaudy but I think they have to be qualified. Look at his game log this season and see the teams he’s faced:
Oakland, Oakland, Minnesota, Kansas City, Seattle
Those are 4 of the weakest offensive teams in the AL. Another slightly odd statistic is he’s had more flyouts than groundouts, 42 to 39 respectively. The key as to why he has been so good this season: 32 strikeouts and only 2 walks.
He’s been fantastic but against a better lineup like the Yankees he might not have the same success.
I’m not trying to take anything away from Lee, this game should be a great pitchers duel. I can’t wait.
“and betemit should be at third, imo”
Can’t use Betimit against a lefty. He’s a switch hitter in the program, but he can’t right-handed worth a damn. Ensberg is the right pick tonight.
can someone please explain to me how a horrible pitcher like cliff lee has such an incredible era and whip? steroids?
Well first of all he’s not that horrible. Look at 2005 he was 18-5 with 3.79 ERA so he obviously can be a very good pitcher. Secondly he’s faced incredibly weak offensive teams. Finally he is throwing strikes, he’s thrown 67.5% of his pitches for strikes and only walked 2 batters. He’ll cool down but he’s not as bad as you think.
from the last thread:
“Tell me Francesa is joking. Now Joba according to him needs to grow up to how he reacts after a lost? He needs to be more like Rivera after a lost.
What a complete joke.â€
Did he actually say that? I thought Joba acted EXACTLY like Mo after the loss. He took the heat, made no excuses, and said it’s over and done with, not going to be on his mind next time out.
Why does this guy still have a job, let alone a high profile one?
Uh oh, Michael Kay says he has some harsh words for people who hide behind blogs, coming up.
I for one welcome our new radio talk show blog overlord.
ensberg might just have an uglier swing than shelley…i have no idea how he ever makes contact.
oh and I love the lineup tonight. It’s the best we have until A rod and Jorge are healthy.
“Oakland, Oakland, Minnesota, Kansas City, Seattle
Those are 4 of the weakest offensive teams in the AL. Another slightly odd statistic is he’s had more flyouts than groundouts, 42 to 39 respectively. The key as to why he has been so good this season: 32 strikeouts and only 2 walks.”
People seem to be sleeping on the Athletics, who are presently 21-14 and 3rd in the AL in both runs scored and OBP. They are Numero Uno in working walks, so to discount them among 4 of the weakest offenses in the league is probably a considerable stretch.
Is that what Francesa said today?
What does he expect Joba to do? He was fine last night. Handled it like a veteran would handle it.
Man, these guys will say anything to get the phone lines cooking. Even things as dumb as how Joba should act after a loss.
Lee’s career ERA by month:
March/April: 2.72
May: 4.73
June: 4.14
July: 6.35
August: 4.83
Sept/Oct: 4.09
2004 March/April: 3.14
2005 March/April: 4.34
2006 March/April: 2.97
2007 March/April – I think he was injured or something…
“May 7th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
Uh oh, Michael Kay says he has some harsh words for people who hide behind blogs, coming up.
I for one welcome our new radio talk show blog overlord.”
what ?
sj44 u r the definition of a quitters. Shall I cut n paste ur posts from last night??? U would be glad if the yanks went 81 n 81. Keep ur negative thoughts to yourself
chris, because people, like yourself, continue to listen to their show. I dont understand how everyone can complain about them yet theyre constantly listening to them…there are other shows to listen to…I cant stand them so I dont listen to them, its that simple.
Wow – so, anyone looking for an advantage for Yankees would have a little trouble finding an edge right now!
They are the very definition of playing .500.
From last thread:
Just speaking strictly to the comments relayed from that ridiculous pair on WFAN, the difference between Joba and Mo blowing a win is that Joba does it in the 8th, and gets the privilege of having the cameras plastered on his face for an entire inning, while Mo usually walks off the mound and into the dugout. He is usually showered and dressed and quite composed before the press sees him. And to Joba’s credit, he was also quite composed by the time the press got to speak with him.
And, what did Joba do in the dugout? He sat, looking dejected, with a towel on his head. Now, I don’t know about the towel (
), but dejected is an appropriate emotion for what happened last night!
“Uh oh, Michael Kay says he has some harsh words for people who hide behind blogs, coming up. ”
hide behind blogs? for real? if there was a better alternative to voicing my opinion of this horse’s-a**, please let me know!
Chris and SJ – actually Michael Kay said the same thing about Joba as well. He was talking about Joba on the bench last night after the inning pulling his hair and having a blank look on his face. Kay said that Joba regrouoped in the clubhouse after Mo spoke to him. He was also talking today about how Joba bounces back.
Mikey reading our reaction to him yesterday or how negative he came out in the poll I recently did?
Mike,
I will post what I want when I want to post it. You don’t like it? Don’t read it.
Keep believing I want the team to go 81-81. Its not true but if you believe it, fine by me.
Enjoy waving your pom poms tonight.
” Look at his game log this season and see the teams he’s faced:
Oakland, Oakland, Minnesota, Kansas City, Seattle”
so far oakland has a better offense than the yankees.
“sj44 u r the definition of a quitters.”
SJ is one of the most knowledgeable and erudite posters on this board. He actually goes and WATCHES yankee minor league teams play. He knows enough scouts to recognize when Cleveland scouts are watching Charleston. His points are lucid and well stated, even if I don’t always agree.
You, meanwhile, have yet to add anything of substance to our discussion.
Jeff: Are you serious?
I can’t believe Kay is still going on about Torre and calling up Posada.
People seem to be sleeping on the Athletics, who are presently 21-14 and 3rd in the AL in both runs scored and OBP.
Yeah you are right. Thus far they are third of 14 in the AL in runs scored. The Mariners are 9/14, Twins are 13/14 and Royals are 14/14. The A’s have been good so far but it’s not very likely they keep that up, there isn’t that much offensive talent on the team.
“SJ is one of the most knowledgeable and erudite posters on this board. He actually goes and WATCHES yankee minor league teams play. He knows enough scouts to recognize when Cleveland scouts are watching Charleston. His points are lucid and well stated, even if I don’t always agree.
You, meanwhile, have yet to add anything of substance to our discussion.”
oooooooooooooooooooooh HURTS SO GOOD !
OMG he’s talking about Torre being mad if Buck Showalter called. Am I listening to a replay from yesterday?
Torre should write a letter? Really Kay?
Who writes letters anymore?
This is still being discussed today?
Torre did not like Kay? Shocking
LOL…here it comes…”Joe Torre didn’t like me because I would criticize his moves”. He hardly ever said boo on the air about anything the Yankees did that he disagreed with.
Holy crap- Kay is taking a page out of the Mike and the Mad Dog handbook of making something out of completely nothing
The Yankees should file a grievance with MLB? What?
Sounds like Michael Kay has waited a long time to expel all this vitriol against Torre and is now taking advantage of any opportunity to do so.
Why do you guys listen to him? Do you ever learn anything worthwhile by listening to the show? That’s why I stopped listening to M&MD at all; not only are they extremely annoying, but they add nothing to my knowledge and enjoyment of baseball. I’ve never listened to Kay at all because I suspected, based on what I’ve read here, it would be more of the same, PLUS, I’m already subjected to his pomposity during the games.
This fivehead is becoming more and more of an idiot every day. I used to like his radio show. It’s becoming unlistenable.
And I have heard him mention nothing about blogs.
So, here are what our NY radio talk show hosts are talking about today:
Francesa: How Joba should act after a loss.
Kay: Joe Torre shouldn’t make phone calls to Yankee players.
And we wonder why athletes hate these guys! lol
Man, the #1 media market in America and this is what you get for drivetime sports talk radio.
Its damn depressing.
It’s not a bad lineup tonight. Giambi is sitting, so let’s hope Duncan takes better advantage of his opportunity. I guess, again, he’s at cleanup to keep the R/L thing going.
I can’t stand Kay on the air I see no reason to listen to him on his own radio show where he can talk about whatever he wants. I shudder just thinking about it..
I find Mike and Chris to be EXTREMELY boring, listening to their show is painful. I really dont know how people can listen to it…and then they complain about it….biggles the mind
What exactly is Mike F saying that Joba did wrong? He was sad and ticked. WHat is wrong with that?
Explain this to me.
How is it that Melky and Duncan hearing took place and within hours they had a decision. Fransy hearing held yesterday and no decision how long does it take to make a decision like this
I’m not listening to the radio stream but recap the letter thing w/ Kay and what blog is he having issues with
Well, I listen to M&MD for the giggles. Those two are just crazy and ya just have to laugh at them. That’s all I do!
Kay-I will listen if bored. Sometimes he has a sane thought…sometimes. But usually he is full of hot air.
My uncle loves listening to Fatso and fruitloops. He thinks Mike is a sensible Yankee fan. I told him he is off is rocker. Mike is far from a sensible Yankee fan. He has no clue about the Yankees outside of Alex and Jeter.
Yeah, like I said yesterday.
Good music is so much better. hence, I listen to good music.
Though I’d still be amused if Kay really did read blogs. I have a feeling some of the subtle humor would go right over his head. He’s just not geeky enough, and I mean that in the best possible way.
Pete – is the turkey still by Kyle’s locker? maybe it’s bringing him good luck…
I guess no news yet on his suspension duration.
Brandon- he said Joe Torre should sit down and write a player a letter if he wants to communicate with him.
He’s mentioned nothing about blogs thus far.
This is the same guy who once said anyone who went to a rock concert was a drug user.
“What exactly is Mike F saying that Joba did wrong? He was sad and ticked. WHat is wrong with that?”
absolutely unacceptable Jen, we know Joba is 22 but he should be acting like 30 year old vet, this is a funeral home not a baseball field !!!
Rebecca, that’s an awfully big head to go over.
Brandon-Kay was saying instead of calling people, Torre should write them letters. Something like that.
Thus no funny business going on.
I missed the part about blogs
“He’s a switch hitter in the program, but he can’t right-handed worth a damn.”
Why do people get away with calling him a switch hitter then? I’m sure Jeter could put the bat on the ball standing on the other side of the plate, but he doesn’t try to because he’s not a good hitter batting lefty…
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See that? No one had faith in my Kyle
“Brandon- he said Joe Torre should sit down and write a player a letter if he wants to communicate with him.
He’s mentioned nothing about blogs thus far.
This is the same guy who once said anyone who went to a rock concert was a drug user.”
the drug using thing aside that’s not anything I give a damn about, that’s teenagers being stupid, but Joe Torre should now write a letter to communicate ?, really ? so no EMAIL either just basically find a Bic pen w/ a sheet of loose leaf.
Charleston is just getting killed with injuries right now.
In addition to Romine, Heredia, and Suttle they put Brandon Laird (3B), Adam Olbrychowski and Ryan Zink (the latter 2 are pitchers) to the list today.
They have 7 guys on the DL and 4 of them (Romine, Heredia, Suttle and Laird) are legit prospects.
It seems like the injury bug is going through the entire organization.
Its tough for Charleston as a low level A team to fill out their roster. They are left to pick from the guys who were in Staten Island and in the Gulf Coast League last year.
Many of those guys are in extended spring training right now because the short season A ball leagues don’t start until Mid-June.
Some of those guys aren’t yet ready for Charleston level competition.
Gonna be a rough few weeks for the RiverDogs.
Francis The Praying Mantis, I have listened to that show no more than 3 times in my life. I was quoting someone from the previous thread that posted what they said.
But I agree with your sentiment, people need to stop listening to them and posting what idiotic comments they make… only fuels the fat fire.
typical weekday on the blog for me:
8:00
-’Today in the Journal News’ post is the place to be, with a few random posts still being made on the posts Pete made at 2 AM. nitpicking of managerial moves from the night before, regardless of whether it was a win or loss.
11:00 – Pete makes a post about one of following
-the tabloidish story of the day
-random meaningless type stats
-bruce springsteen/patriots
-a blog post from gate #35 at some airport
12:00 – people on the west coast finally catching up
- predictions of what assanine comments will be made on the 2 radio programs
- lots of talk about past/future trades/transactions
- usually a non-baseball topic or 2
- Brandon posts a few smiley icons after checking minor league stats
2:00 – people from hawaii finally catch up
- people complain about the actual assanine comments made on one of the 2 talk radio programs
- a handful of line-up predictions
- trolls are fed
4:00
-actual line-ups posted
-several “Joe must go!” comments regarding Girardi’s inability to make a line-up
-a reminder is given not to feed the trolls
4:30
-several valid defenses of Girardi’s line-up are posted.
-Vito counts the number of games left in the month, adds that to the W column of the current W-L record, and makes a post about it. (actually not sure of the timing on this one)
-a few random basketball/hockey posts…
5:00 – i usually leave work. not much of a game thread person, but someone can probably take over from here…
I didnt know that Jay-Z and Bouncy got married.
as far as Kay’s comments, if Joba went and sat on the bench after his first meltdown and didn’t show emotion (knowing how much emotion he shows on a regular basis), I’d be more worried than watching him angry at himself and confused. He should have pulled his hair out, he doesn’t expect to blow the game and he never should. He learned a lesson.
I don’t care how he looks on the bench or in interviews. I care about how he pitches today or tomorrow and bounces back from it.
If the yanks dont win tonight, they are not going to the post season.
“Gonna be a rough few weeks for the RiverDogs.”
Noticed Montero is 9 for his last 44. Just a garden variety slump or what???
Chris NY,
Amen to that!
Saw on the Yankee website that Mariano won the DHL’s Delivery Man for April
“Yanks closer named month’s best after saving eight of eight”
Mo certainly deserves the award.
About tonight’s lineup, I noticed that Damon is 0-11 lifetime v. Lee, but Giambi is .300 with a homer. Maybe Girardi should have swapped those guys out (Giambi at DH, Matsui in LF).
Kay
was mad at a commenter on some blog that called Kay a hypocrite for not saying the same things about Torre on the YES bcast that he did on his Radio show. He said as a play by play guy he can only comment on the game. (HE TALKS ABOUT EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME)
Then he said that commenters probably all wear pocket protectors. Guys who wear leather jacket don’t comment on blogs-
I can’t make this stuff up.
Time 4 #27,
Really, you can’t be serious…
Holy crap..now he’s discussing the Mets and he goes into the Torre thing again..ok, shutting it off and putting music back on.
“I didnt know that Jay-Z and Bouncy got married.”
“bouncy…” LOL like a 13-year old… too funny.
I need to write Michael Kay a letter.
I love this Brian caller though!
Its odd to look at the pitching stats and see Farnsworth and Joba with the exact same ERAs after last night.
Giambi has swung like a you know what…vs everybody , last night he has a big flyball to LF and all the sudden that changes everything.
“If the yanks dont win tonight, they are not going to the post season.”
Clearly, because there’s no way to make up 5.5 games over the next 127.
Fredo,
Yes. Plus, because of the injuries, he doesn’t have guys who can protect him in the lineup right.
He’s missing Suttle and Laird bigtime and he is chasing some pitches out of the zone. When he was hitting between Suttle and Laird, he was hitting .380.
He’s also catching more now than anticipated because of Romine’s injury. That will wear him down a bit.
Its the bumps in the road players go through on their way up the ladder.
I always like when talented kids struggle because you learn more about them when they struggle than you do when they are firing on all cylinders.
LMAO! This is hilarious
Saucy -
You forgot
4:37 – needlessly pedantic asshat corrects your spelling (it’s asinine)
Get Brian Beer!
oh man this exchange with kay and this caller is great LOL
LMAO !!! who was that caller ..
Kay: “YOU SAYING YOU WANT TO FIGHT ME, YOU THINK I WILL BACK DOWN TO YOU !
I need to write Brian a thank you letter
“a little 12 year old girl”
nice.
I dont understand why Girardy change the lineup again, just because Cliff Lee is a lefty? Former lineup with Damon, Jeter, Abreu and Matsui worked well and they are like four pouches to any pitchers. Put Duncan to clearout? I would say it’s like a gamble because Duncan have never faced Lee before. Hope he has a good performence tonight!!
He said he can only comment on the game??
Then I guess his conversation about Paul O’Niel’s eating, his shopping, running into Abreu in the gym etc etc all have to do with the game.
I am, they have to show that they can come back after last nights loss.
jimmy27
That sounds like a comment that was written here.
Hey Kay if you are reading this, none of the fans like you!!
CABEZON = BIG HEAD
Jimmy27 -
Pocket protectors????? Seriously????? Literally, LOL!
“I always like when talented kids struggle because you learn more about them when they struggle than you do when they are firing on all cylinders.”
See: Jose Tabata.
He’s been playing really well since he hit rock-bottom there, right? He’s a kid. He signed with the Yanks when he was what, 16? Playing baseball has kind of defined his adult identity…and all of a sudden he was failing at it. Badly. Is it at all surprising he had a crisis of faith in himself?
I feel bad for Don L. I know his brother he does a show on Sirus radio. I always thought Don would get his own show first. Instead he is stuck with Michael.
Gayle
Exactly. He’s full of it.
Anyway Torre calling players is a very appropriate topic to be discussed on any baseball cast.
Does anyone in the media/mlb agree with Kay?
His Buddy Steve Phillips does not agree.
“Kay
was mad at a commenter on some blog that called Kay a hypocrite for not saying the same things about Torre on the YES bcast that he did on his Radio show. He said as a play by play guy he can only comment on the game. (HE TALKS ABOUT EVERYTHING ALL THE TIME)
Then he said that commenters probably all wear pocket protectors. Guys who wear leather jacket don’t comment on blogs-
I can’t make this stuff up.”
For real?
Dude, that was here, yesterday, one of the gals made the comment–I think it was Doreen, but I’m not sure.
And, you know, despite one of my best friends being a physics grad student just admitted to Tufts, I don’t even know what a pocket protector is.
All right, Kay, it’s on.
yes I miss Scott Protor giving up the game like that and Torre’s let me let the pitcher bleed here moves
I give Kay credit though for fighting him off… if that caller tried to do that to Francessa, Mike would have given him the hand wave in about 2 seconds.
lol whozat
and thanks
I’m still sitting here laughing about that Brian the caller dude. Hilarious
“And, you know, despite one of my best friends being a physics grad student just admitted to Tufts, I don’t even know what a pocket protector is.”
I’m a computer science PhD student. I have dated two engineers, a CS masters student, and worked at a successful tech company. I have multiple college buddies that possess advanced degrees in physics.
And I have never even _seen_ a pocket protector.
Rebecca – Huh?
Now Kay is talking to Paul Bryd will he bring up hgh?
It was a commenter called Keith or Kevin on another writers blog.
Kay read the blog because there was something about him in it then he looked at the comments and got ticked.
pocket protectors- i kid you not
“I’m still sitting here laughing about that Brian the caller dude. Hilarious”
please let there be another Brian type caller today
if I was at Dodger stadium right now, I’d go home there is no sense in staying there to watch this game, down 11-0 ? yeh you’ll comeback
What was so great about “Brian the caller dude”
“please let there be another Brian type caller today”
Oh I know. Crossing my fingers!
Doreen: Someone made a comment yesterday about Kay being a hypocrite. I thought it was you, but I might be mistaken.
Doreen if it was you he said you don’t have the guts to call him or tell it to his face
1-800-919-3776 so do you….
My degree’s in Comp Sci too, and a good friend of mine’s in material engineering.
I’ve never seen a pocket protector myself.
Rebecca it was me
He read the all of 3 comments that werein Niel Best’s Watchdog column today (one of the best sports media blogs out there by the way)
Pete got a shout out on it
Michael Kay is calling out Doreen? On his radio show? Who is hiding behind something now?
Calling out a blog poster on his radio show? Oh Michael, after all the things I have written defending you as a Fordham alum. I am sooo disappointed. Picking on a knowledgeable baseball chick who happens to be a mom from your bully pulpit because she dared to suggest that you were speaking with forked tongue?
That’s sounding way too sensitive to me. Did she strike a nerve?
“Did he actually say that? I thought Joba acted EXACTLY like Mo after the loss.”
He was referring to Joba taking the loss badly and putting a towel over his head in the dug-out. He thought it was immature and thought Joba needed to “grow up” and “act like Rivera”.
Mike wants Joba to be personality wise exactly like Rivera. Does he realize those are two different human beings? He complained about the fist pump said he needed to be like Mo and Mo doesn’t do that now he wants Joba to react the same way as Mo does on the mound and in the dug out. SMH
It is worth noting that Joba and Kyle each have exactly the same e.r.a.. It’s possible that Girardi might know a thing or two about handling pitchers.
I listened to Kay today and he is so wrong. First off, of course there are lot of cuckoos on the internet. But blogs and websites are filled with fantastic writers that add depth and clarity and analysis. Off the top of my head (beside Peter, of course, who bridges the gap between beat and blog)
Alex Belth – the best
Replacement Level Yankee Blog
Steve Lombardi at WasWatching
Jon Weisman at Dodger Thoughts
USS Mariner is the best. Dave Cameron is a wonderful analyst.
Baseball Think Factory
Allard at WCBS Radio
Dave Pinto at baseball musings
also many more than Kay is missing.
SO what did Brian the caller say to Kay?
He’s picking on gayle? Un-acceptable! Still sounding too defensive. He’s using hand grenades to hunt bunny rabbits.
I wonder when does NoMaas make a pictorial of Fatcessa wanting Joba to be more like Mo…a perfect example would be using the NBA faceoff pics
AND as I write this Prootor gives up another HR , who wanted him back again ?
Patrick-Brian the caller just went off on Kay. Called Kay a 12 year old little girl. Talk of fighting each other.
Very amusing
Proctor *
Lineup looks like a winner to me !…
after tonight’s WIN via WANG…we will only need to go 6-2 to hit the goal record of 24-19 by 5/15/08….GO YANKEES !!!
PROCTOR OPENING UP A RALLY !
That Proctor for betemit trade is looking like a bust on both ends.
see you tomorrow, folks!
what a moron fan put the kid in your wife’s hands before you risk a baseball hitting him/her
The truth comes out….
does anyone remember this or Rhona Barrett FTM?
“Neil,
Kay has hated Torre ever since Torre called him “Rhona Barrett” for reporting some sort of gossipy item way back when. I’m surprised you’ve never heard that. ”
Watchdog comment
saucy said:
4:30
-Vito counts the number of games left in the month, adds that to the W column of the current W-L record, and makes a post about it. (actually not sure of the timing on this one)
Close! You were about 30 minutes off.
murphydog –
Thanks for the laugh, but it wasn’t me! I did hint that he was full of hot air, or having to fill the air, and being full of himself. But I don’t recall ever having used the word “hypocrite” when discussing Michael Kay on this blog.
oh god Peter Gammons called Erick Aybar the best young SS in the game… I’ll see you guys later ..apparently he forgets the name Hanley Ramirez so easily and then there is that Yunel Escobar in Atlanta w/e
Patrick
May 7th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
saucy said:
4:30
-Vito counts the number of games left in the month, adds that to the W column of the current W-L record, and makes a post about it. (actually not sure of the timing on this one)
Close! You were about 30 minutes off.
…
Don Vito A. Bellamo
May 7th, 2008 at 4:59 pm
Lineup looks like a winner to me !…
after tonight’s WIN via WANG…we will only need to go 6-2 to hit the goal record of 24-19 by 5/15/08….GO YANKEES !!!
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YUP, that’s close…winning 7 of 9 over the next 9 games is EXACTLY the same as winning all of the rest of the games in May….YUP….funny, you are….so funny !
shouldn’t Kay be asking Gammons about NY Baseball?
“YUP, that’s close…winning 7 of 9 over the next 9 games is EXACTLY the same as winning all of the rest of the games in May….YUP….funny, you are….so funny !”
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Hey it wasn’t me, it was saucY. I thought it was pretty funny..
Pretty funny that a geek like Kay would make fun of people wearing pocket protectors.
Do Kay’s east coast listeners care to hear Gammons expounding on the weak Mariners offense?
It will be interesting to see just how well the Yankee advance scouts did in watching Cliff Lee’s recent performances.
Hey did the Red Sox win yet today?
Why does Gammons always seems to bring up the the Sox when talking about the Yankees? It’s annoying.
“Do Kay’s east coast listeners care to hear Gammons expounding on the weak Mariners offense?”
Maybe he’s explaining why the Yanks disposed of them so easily. More likely, it’s as a precursor to the “will anyone ever sign Bonds” conversation.
saucY,
Very nice page out of your day planner there.
I’m surprised that any kind of caller that makes Kay look foolish would get through. Aren’t they on a slight delay just for that? haha.
I’m not a guy, I’m not a geek, and I don’t have any protectors in my pockets.
Is Kay becoming unhinged?
I know a lot of you have blogs, but is this the most widely used and read Yankee blog out there? Best sports blog even?
It’s kind of scary that we have a forum here where actual movers and shakers read our deepest, darkest, stupidest thoughts.
oh god Peter Gammons called Erick Aybar the best young SS in the game… I’ll see you guys later ..apparently he forgets the name Hanley Ramirez so easily and then there is that Yunel Escobar in Atlanta w/e
You can’t be serious. Erick Aybar? There are at least 5 “young” SS that are better than Aybar. Ramirez, Escobar, Tulo, Reyes, Hardy
Gammons still high on Phil and IPK- for what it is worth.
I haven’t seen a pocket protector since Tori Spelling did her guest stint as Screech’s girlfriend on Saved by the Bell.
Drew – I know this is really late from when you posted it – but I’m a fan of Damon, Melky, Jeter…. it spreads the line-up out a little bit by pushing everyone down a slot and Melky is much closer to a 2 hitter then he is a 6
Oh and how could I forget Stephen Drew, he’s better than Aybar too.
Patrick – maybe he meant the best young SS…. on that team?
kay is no mike francesca. francesca is one of a kind. men want to be francesca and woman want to be with francesca. just not under francesca since francesca believes they like to believe. francesca.
*breath not believe francesca for president of the solar system.
#1 Mike Francseca support, please tell me more about the glory that is mike francesca.
Sadly, Gammons contributes more useful information to 1050 than Heyman provides to WFAN.
mel: I imagine this is the most widely read Yankees blog. As for most widely read sports blogs, I’m not sure. Deadspin is probably way up there.
Rebecca,
You’re probably right. I’m not a frequent visitor of Deadspin, only if I’m following a link, which hasn’t been often.
But is there a blog with this kind of traffic, number of posts, and level of civility?
Pete’s blog is like McGruff. A safe haven for Yankee fans!
Time to destroy overrated Cliff Lee and make his ERA skyrocket
I would prefer Gonzalez to be in there over Ensberg.
Gonzo is gone Wander,,,,he ain’t on the team
GM FOR A DAY
1. What would you do with Betemit, right now.
2. How long would you keep IPK in AAA
3. Are you “shopping” veterans like Damon and Giambi?
I missed that one.
So you’re telling me Betemit is on the roster but Gonzalez isn’t? You must be kidding.
I speak the truth, oh wandering one
1. What would you do with Betemit, right now.
Give him playtime. Platoon him with Ensberg at third and give him at bats when a righty is on the mound. Hopefully he hits well and gains some trade value. Once A-rod comes back give him starts at first and look to trade him.
2. How long would you keep IPK in AAA
Depends on how he pitches. If he continues to pitch well I’d leave him there for two more starts.
3. Are you “shopping†veterans like Damon and Giambi?
Giambi yes but there is no market for a guy that costs 20 million+ I would try to trade him but not if the other team wants me to eat his contract.
Damon no way, he’s our hottest hitter right now and he’s the key to our offense.
Are you “shopping†veterans like Damon and Giambi?
As spokesmen for AARP? Seriously, my guess is that Nobody wants them – esp. Giambi. And as long as Damon hits he’s useful to the Yanks.
How long would you keep IPK in AAA?
Two more starts if they are like the last one. Then he gets a big fat lecture before he returns to NY: Ian, this is your Big Chance. It may be here sooner than you expected, but it’s here and there’s no turning back. There can be no repeats of the nibbling and insecurity. Throw strikes, get outs like we all know you can or you won’t be back ’till next year, if at all.
Betemit? I don’t know. It’s early, but he’s another guy out of chances. Except for him, there is no “return to the farm to grow up.” I think they are trying to find out if he has any value to them or any other team.
Keep Damon. DFA Giambi if he isn’t hitting better by the All Star break. Trade Betemit and bring AG back up. If IPK pitches well in AAA, bring him back up.
Murph – I agree with you about Betemit, Giambi and IPK. I don’t about Damon. Given the way he’s been playing, and that his contract is 13M per season for this season and next (reasonable, I think, in current market) I think a number of teams would be interested. I wouldn’t deal him now, he’s a big part of offense for us at this point. Plus who would play LF? Matsui? Are you sure Brett Gardner can handle it, no safety net?
500 Baseball indicates lack of clutch hitting.
The ceiling is so high with all the Red Sox prospects that astronauts could reach outside of their space capsules and shake hands with them.
There are some other teams with prospects also but ……
Laura
May 7th, 2008 at 5:54 pm
Keep Damon. DFA Giambi if he isn’t hitting better by the All Star break. Trade Betemit and bring AG back up. If IPK pitches well in AAA, bring him back up.
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I concur and with Giambi gone, I’d like a 1st base platoon of Ross Gload and Shelley Duncan if the right deal can be worked with K.C. as a poster suggested recently.
interesting stats Pete. so, in a nutshell, the yankees are a perfectly average team.
last night was a tough one to swallow. joba had to blow one bigtime eventually though, it’s just weird enough seeing him allow any runs let alone 3 at once. also, it would be pretty special if the guys would man up and win some games late once in a while. the red sox have already won a handful of games on their last AB. when are the Yankees gonna start doing that this year?
“the red sox have already won a handful of games on their last AB. when are the Yankees gonna start doing that this year?”
So far, it looks like this team gives up towards the later innings. I think they were in shock last night that Joba blew the game (not to mention how he blew it). I don’t see a lot of fight in them. So far….
still cant believe we have betamit and not phillips or mientkiewitz
yeah, it really does seem like they’ve been rolling over and dying if they aren’t winning by the 8th inning. that is just pathetic, especially at home. when you get into the bottom of the 9th in your own park with the top of the order coming up they could at least get a guy on. especially with how well our top guys have been hitting lately it was painful to watch them go down in order like that to end the game. especially Abreu after he battled that whole at bat he just stands there and takes strike 3 right down the middle.
“still cant believe we have betamit and not phillips or mientkiewitz”
Yeah, it’d be AWESOME to have a guy on the team that I know will hit between .230 and .270 with no power or walks at a position where defense isn’t that big a deal.
“especially Abreu after he battled that whole at bat he just stands there and takes strike 3 right down the middle.”
Yeah. That was probably because he gave up, and not because he got fooled on the pitch.
yeah, exactly. and that’s total BS, giving up.
“the red sox have already won a handful of games on their last AB.”
Yeah, but weren’t at least some of those against Joe Borowski, right before they put him on the DL?
“when are the Yankees gonna start doing that this year?”
I’d rather that they just start cashing in more of their RISP. Then they won’t HAVE to come back. They’ve been hideous at cashing in their opportunities. That, to me, is the biggest problem, even in front of Hughes’ injury and Kennedy’s struggles.
“yeah, exactly. and that’s total BS, giving up.”
Wait…I was kidding. You’re kidding too, right?
i dont know how i could be. how did he foul off so many tough pitches and just take that last one down broadway? go watch it. how can you be fooled on that? it was 88 and it was down broadway on the release it hardly even moved.
eitherway, i’m not saying they gave up but they sure as hell made it look like they weren’t even trying.
tonight is a big test for the ‘heating up’ bats.
let’s hope they can keep the momentum going and get wang to 7-0
I think Wilson Betemit reads this blog. He’s not so much bothered by the criticism as he is by the way his critics butcher his name. His strikeouts are a big FU to those who continue to spell his name incorrectly. Give him the respect he deserves as a professional ball player, and he’ll stop striking out.
Since I unfortunately called Joba hitting a bump last night, I might as well add that Shelley Duncanstein WILL have a breakout game tonight.
where should I watch the game? ESPN or YES?
Dear Yankee Bats: Please be awake the whole game.
“‘I just have a feeling I’m going to make these guys look stupid.’ â€
You wouldn’t be the first pitcher to make the Yankees look stupid, Ian.
Jeff Weaver. Kevin Brown. Randy Johnson. Carl Pavano. Javier Vazquez. Jose Contreras. May you and Phil have a long and fulfilling career in such splendid company.
Any of you guys see that Jeter has dated 6 of the 100 most beautiful people?
Clearly a HOF credential if I ever heard one. Oh El Capitan!
It’s YANKEE time!!!
Let the duel begin…
TK – Only 6?!
Confucius
I assume you mean they will follow in the footsteps of all those pitchers you named and help their team to win a world series ring??? because you know each of them has a ring yaknow. just saying.
Let’s go Wang…….See a 5 hit night from Wang, giving up 2 runs…
c’mon Wang!
Does anyone know if the stadium does anything for a kids first game? I will be taking my Daughter to her first Yankee game on May 20th and i want to make sure that I make it memorable, Any ideas?
inning ending dp here
Okay Fran -
Tonight’s score: 1-0 Yankees.
I was just going to call a DP and then a pop out. We see my in-game scoring is as good as my final score prediction!
GO YANKEES!!!
Is a computer science major worth pursuing ???
What’s the Job Market atmosphere for this major.
We’re down 1-0 nothing already.
If I may change my final score prediction…
I’d say 5-2 Yankees.
Leadoff walks always score.
I don’t begrudge other teams for scoring on sac flies. That’s what you’re supposed to do. It just kills me that the Yankees aren’t able to do it more consistently.
Hey Trisha – Well your score is off but I agree that the Yankees will win.
Get to work bats
Chucky Doll Bucholz just committed a balk.
I would have told you that he was pitching a no hitter so far – but he isn’t.
GO TIGERS!!!
All things considered Wang limited the damage to 1. Do we think Cliff Lee is as good as his numbers or has he just hit a streak of good luck?
Igawang !!!!
So much for the big matchup.
Looks like Cliff Lee will be the starter for the All-Star Game.
Fran – it’s always a good moment when my game score is off and I call for a win because I’ve never been right with game scores, but I have been right with wins!
THE YANKEES (will) WIN! THEEEEE YANKEES (will) WIN!!!
eek
YankeesTech – computer science major has a phenomenal job market. I know people who have gone to technical school for computers and come out making incredible money. Lots of jobs. That is if you’re looking to go out and get a job. If you are talking about getting a PhD, lots of jobs in industry as well as in teaching. I don’t see that changing soon.
wow wil
way to throw in the towel.
Is the Indians 2nd baseman’s name @ss-dribble?????????
Game over. I’m calling a no-hitter for Lee. (am I the first?)
2708, the Yanks have a really good PR and events department. If you go to the website they have phone numbers you can call and ask about different events. You may even be able to have them put her name on the big teletron between innings with a happy birthday message.
ER I will join you.
Oh damn! CLIFF LEE IS PITCHING A NO HITTER!
great, let’s walk the leadoff hitter again………
You can score that walk already: 2-0 Indians.
Trisha,
Thank You, I will give them a call tomorrow.
Very unWang-like. Put the leadoff batter on again
That’s good – start jinxing Lee’s no hitter early on
Yeah… the yankees aren’t winning this one tonight. I’m all for positive energy and thoughts but it’s not happening after that 1st inning unless Lee breaks his leg. It would take something intense to throw Lee off of his game.
But let’s hope for the best, I suppose.
We will win this game!
Go Yanks!
2708 let us know what you find out. I agree that it should get very special treatment!
Fran, now we’re going to get a look at how quickly it happens after mentioning the special words!
Where’s big mouth Kay when you need him?!
Yankees win 3-2.
Winning or not is really up to our bats, assuming Wang still do his typical 2-run/7-inning game…
Think I’ll call a Robby Cano homer tonight.
I’ll give one to big G there Trisha. He is DUE.
uh,
check it out.
That is a good start!!!
Haha, poor Lee. He had Matsui completely fooled.
Godzilla! 16 and counting!
good job Hideki
ahh back from practice early…. I guess I didn’t miss too much – hopefully we can raise Cliff Lee’s ERA
no hitter
gone
Melky or Cano go for a bomb and we up 2-1…
Only 3 out of 21 pitches were balls by Lee – filty!!!
Great plate patience Robbie!
Robbie Cano swinging at the first pitch Don’t Ya Know
patience Robbie.
When someone is throwing everything for strikes, plate patience makes no sense doncha know!
Is anyone else extremely frustrated also by how much Robbie slows up just as he’s getting to first…it must be tough being in the slump he’s in but you’d love to see him at least running those grounders out, but maybe I’m just overreacting?
Question for the board?
Who’s in favor of sending Cano down to AAA? Can this be done?
I’m tired of this guy going through the motions and killing this team.
His approach is lazy, defeated, and annoying the hell out of me.
Send him down and bring up Alberto.
Hey did ya notice that CLIFF LEE IS PITCHING A SHUT OUT?????
Wang is looking like his normal self!
NAASSTTY
Wang’s tempo went up. He showed a new pitch.
All in all: good inning for Wang.
I mean, did Cano really just swing at the first pitch there, AGAIN???
GET THIS BUM OFF THE TEAM ALREADY – TEACH HIM A LESSON.
HE’S EARNED NOTHING SO FAR THIS YEAR. NOTHING.
I don’t send Robbie down or sit him as long as there is nothing physically wrong with him.
He was an all-star last year and maybe the new contract is on him mind but I think he will pull himself together.
(man it is tough typing in these pin-striped pompoms)
Wang is back in form but where are our bats???
At least Ensberg made Lee work…
You will notice that a lot of hitters will swing at the first pitch with a pitcher who throws lots of strikes. I wouldn’t get too flipped out at Cano doing it.
I’d like to call a three run inning but it truly doesn’t look like that is being served up tonight by Lee.
TK – I think a guy trying to “pull himself together” doesn’t pout on the basepaths and behave sluggishly after poor at-bats.
He instead should be patient at the plate, run aggressively to first base on ground-outs and take the punches like a man.
Robby’s attitude is garbage. If he doesn’t hit above .200 for the month of May I give him a 2 week round trip to Scranton.
HELLO!!!!
Did you just hear Flash saying that you have to be more aggressive and swing at first pitch strikes against someone like Lee?
Geeze why do I have to point all these things out!
He’s not Cliff Koufax…let’s go.
This is so unwatchable…
cliff Lee is just too good. I think I’ll go follow how the Tigers lose to the Sucks! now.
Didn’t the Tigers promise to give Buchholz a no-hitter during last night’s postgame? Damn liars.
lineup looks lost without a rod, amazing how one player can really change the team
Brilliant strategy, Flash, for a team which can’t score runs.
Manufacture, please.
Lee’s thrown 35 pitches through 3 innings…he could go 12 innings at that pace.
The Yankees will be going through the second time around. Hopefully better results. It will be hard to run up Lee’s pitch count because he is throwing strikes. The Yanks have to swing early in the count.
Steve –
If you have paid attention to Cano, he looks exactly as apathetic when he is raking. Some players just aren’t Eckstein or Pedroia.
If he is sucking in another month, we can talk about it but Jeter started out the year batting 180 two years ago, got booed and ended the year above 300.
Cool beans. Chucky doll shutout gone.
2-0 Tigers.
0.0% chance Giambino catches that ball.
Girardi = Genius
Come on DP!!!
Molina has a gorgeous play to first.
Wow Chucky doll doodooing the bed. 3-0 Tigers
They sure are making Wang work
Man, I’m hoping the Indians do not make the playoffs. They have Wang and Joba’s numbers, heh.
Lee = Ace
Wang != Ace
I have never seen a team get so many hits with two strike counts and two outs than the Cleveland Indians.
get to work bats. You can do it
The Yankees will score 1,000 runs this year to support any pitching shortfalls. There will be a lot of 11-6 games.
Cliff Lee is pitching a shut out…
Neil :
Solid teams will produce with 2 strike counts and 2 outs. Come from behind wins and keeping rallies going with 2 outs are also good trademarks.
TKinDC – was that the year where he was like 0-30 something?? That was crazy.. but Jeter is definitely the only person that would be getting standing ovations before his at-bats trying to get him out of it… A-Rod does that he’ll get booed straight to the west coast lol
ortiz was just called out on a 57 mph breaking pitch from galarraga. almost an eephus pitch. galarraga is fun to watch. it’s like he’s making up pitches as he goes.
Lee is making the Yankee hitters look anemic. C’mon Yanks. Have to score some runs.
Yankees has no offense whatsoever to show for Wang tonight =(
Cliff Lee showed up as advertised…
JoeT –
It was sacrilege but they booed Jeter –
Just like they booed Mariano one year.
Sometimes fans embarrass fans
I think it’s one of those circular things. Indian hitters are probably VERY relaxed with Lee on the mound and probably get more hits and runs because of it, the actual number depending on the opposing pitcher of courser.
c’mon Wang. Get out of this
This game is very very tough to watch. I cannot stand watching an anemic offense..
Kevin CT – If Cliff Lee has an ERA of .067, would you think that just about any offense against him might look anemic?
Just wondering.
When will Grady learn?? you can make all the diving plays you want – but don’t you steal on the Yankees catchers!!
TK – they booed him after the at-bats… but on his way to the plate he was still getting standing ovations
Nice throw by Molina
3-0 should not be a big deficit to overcome, but with the way Lee is pitching tonight it is not looking too good.
This team has absolutely no fight. I can’t believe I would ever say this, but I would rather be studying for my criminal procedure final than watch this team’s pathetic excuses for at bats.
let’s try and get another hit.
Baby steps
game over, 3 runs for this pathetic offense is impossible.
I’m very conflicted – I have Cliff Lee on my fantasy team. Good for my team, bad for the Yanks.
They really need Arod and Posada back ASAP. The lineup is just too short right now.
Add to it the anemic AB’s by Cano, Giambi not hitting and none of the first base replacements hitting, its too tough every night to score runs.
Good pitchers can pitch around this lineup right now because there are too many holes.
Wang isn’t pitching badly but, he has to perfect because the offense is dormant. Too tough to ask a guy to be perfect every start.
This guy is throwing 88mph fastballs down the middle of the plate and they can’t do anything with them. The Yankees were probably feeling defeated before the game began, because even the anemic Seattle offense touched this guy up for 3 runs…
That’s not Dominoes knockin at the door , it’s the Melkman makin another delivery!
I don’t think fight is the problem. When you aren’t hitting, it always looks like you lack fight or you are dead.
They are trying. They just have too many reserves playing at one time to be effective.
Everyone needs to stop using the word anemic. Now.
It looks like they’re catching up with Lee, just a bit of bad luck with a few line drives so far.
i don’t blame wang, just the collective millionaires that do nothing but strike out or ground out. no fight whatsoever.
This is a 82 win team, nothing more. Cliff Lee, for his hot start is featuring just a 90 mph fastball. The Yankees can make any pitcher look like Cy Young. This game is over, because the Yankees can’t put a string of quality at-bats together when healthy, much less at diminsished stength.
You can’t overcome deficits with Shelly Duncan hitting cleanup. He is not good enough to be an everyday major league player.
Again, this season is just very weird. They were dragging and had no days off and finally they seem to get on a roll against Seattle and wham! they come up against what? A day off.
baby steps
The next step is to get them home
man these guys suck right now.
This is a National League line-up right now. Which is hideous. Several NL line-ups I would take over the Yankees right now.
Shucks, that would have been nice. A little short, Jose.
Ensberg is not good. Way to easy to tie him up inside.
Alberto Gonzalez got sent down so Morgan Ensberg could be late on Cliff Lee fastballs
Kay wants to find out what they’re talking about….
My guess is a blonde in the 3rd row
no excuse for such a horrid offense. you can say, we don’t have a-rod or posada; but do the replacements really want to be mlb players? ensburg is a joke, and cano has been invisible since signing his new contract. cano has lost his hunger since he know makes money and regardless of what happens he now gets to lay his head on a softer pillow than last year.
Is this an 82 win team with Arod and Posada in the lineup?
Just wondering.
Or do you believe Shelley Duncan, Morgan Ensberg and Jose Molina are going to play every game the rest of the season?
Haven’t we learned anything from last year when all of us predicted this team wouldn’t go anywhere?
Its kind of tough to judge what they are right now given their injury situation.
I’d rather wait and see how they look when a full compliment of everyday players are back in the lineup.
Right now, its what most of us thought it would be. A struggle because of all the missing firepower.
“Ensberg is not good. Way to easy to tie him up inside.”
you do realize his 0.94 ERA is not a fluke right ?
michael kay is really lonely
doreen – seattle made a million errors in that series. yankees capitalized. every struggling visiting team comes in and spanks the yanks. detroit, indians…it’s pathetic.
Funny how the board has turned on Ensberg and Duncan. The old back-up QB syndrome. The guys riding the pine always look like great options…until they actually get in the game and starting throwing interceptions or, in this case, start striking out.
Lee doesn’t walk batters, or are Yankees hitters not being patient at the plate? =/
Just got home…. down 3-0 is bad, but this was donwright chilling:
“Girardi said he expects Kei Igawa will get at least two starts to show them what he can do.”
“Everyone needs to stop using the word anemic. Now.”
Thanks. The supposed “knolwedgeable” posters here are a hoot.
First they bitch that Cano is first-strike swinging against a pitcher who throws nothing but strikes.
They they call the Yankee offense anemic against a pitcher with an ERA of .067.
I think I will actually seek out one of other blogs for tonight and see if there are people whose emotions are not so out of whack that they can make objective calls about the game.
Fran and a few others – you are definitely exempted from the collective idiocy of which I speak!
Adios muchacho/as
5-4 Tigers
I agree. I’d rather we bat Betemit or preferably AGonzalez rather than Ensberg. How much juice you think this clown was doing when he hit all those dingers?
i never liked duncan. nice kid but i’m sorry, if you’re still in the minors at 29 years old, it only means one thing. you ain’t that good.
has michael kay never seen ballplayers talk in a dugout before? i didnt know this was such a revelation.
Cano started the same way last year when he didn’t have a big contract. He’s a slow starter. The contract has nothing to do with it.
No excuse without Arod and Posada in the lineup? You are kidding right?
Do you think pitchers attack Yankee hitters the same way they do when Arod and Posada are out of the lineup? Of course not.
You pitch Bobby Abreu differently when you know Arod is on deck. Posada in the middle of the order is a little different look than Duncan, Ensberg, etc.
Reserve players are not guys who can play everyday. If they could, they would be everyday players.
Its a struggle right now. Fortunately, its a long season and Arod may be back in a week.
If he is, that’s a step in the right direction.
Nick stop man
Alright. Let’s try and get 1 little run. Just 1
you guys are pathetic. They’ve started like this for like 3-4 years in a row and come back to win 95 games. Will that happen this year? who knows…but, to declare them an 82 win team right now is ludacris. They’ve had injury problems and problems with the kids. A lot of Hughes’trouble may be explained by his vision/injury. When he comes back and fixes his mechanical flaws i bet we’ll see more the type of guy we saw late last year. just get over yourselves. So they arent hitting cliff lee right now…neither has the rest of the league. Grow up and stop acting like babies.
No energy out of the team. NONE. Where is Larry Bowa? We need someone, anyone to get this thing going. They are waiting around for a homerun and the boppers aren’t there to do it. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR.
That is a quality start for Wang. Too bad the offense can’t pick him up, thus far. But still nine outs to go to get the runs back.
trisha –
relax. it’s a blog. share your feelings.
this team is tough to watch right now. let’em voice their concerns.
Before I go. Lee’s road ERA is 0.00.
The only anemic things around these parts are some of your posts.
“Ensberg is not good. Way to easy to tie him up inside.â€
you do realize his 0.94 ERA is not a fluke right ?
Brandon,
You realize Ensberg is hitting .220 with 17ks in 59 AB’s right? Please dude…it has little to do with Lee (who is certainly good but not as good as Ensberg made him look there)
This question of 3rd base should not have to go on too much longer. Alex is hoping to be back next Wednesday.
Impressive the way Lee came back from AAA. Maybe Kennedy and Hughes will do the same – regain their confidence and come back throwing strikes.
Big Joe,
it ain’t no fluke
Not sure if others have said this, but Keith Olberman on MSNBC is doing a thing on the New Yankee Stadium right now. He said it “knocked his socks off.”
Steve – I can understand disappointment. I can’t tolerate stupidity. And the whining here tonight about the Yankee offense in light of Cliff Lee’s record is an embarrassment.
I said he was good…not that its a fluke. Learn to read
c’mon Shelley, we need a lift here
Trishia –
Way to overreact, I just hate how people over use certain buzzwords. We don’t all need to repeat the same crap commentators on TV say, we can think for ourselves rather than constantly parroting other people’s words.
Here’s something a little nostalgic to put smiles on the faces of all you mourners.
I thought about this today while talking to a Red Sox fan who was shoveling the crap about ’04.
After Game 3 of the 2004 ALCS, the Yankees were 1 game away from making the World Series for 7 out of 9 years. Think about that – staggering.
So Cliff Lee is 0.00, what the excuse when it’s Kenny Rogers, Bonderman & Robertson?
Too much cheerleading dulls the brain.
Atta boy Shelley
Matsui is the right man for this spot.
done4now…exactly my point. Ensberg has a slow bat and a really slow bat when it’s up in the zone. That’s all it was no slight to Lee. its exacerbated with a good pitcher like Lee naturally.
done4now -
Isn’t the point to capitalize on the mistakes of your opponent? It was a GOOD thing that the Yankees did that against Seattle. In many previous games the Yankees did not capitalize on mistakes, so I took it as a positive that they were able to do so against the Mariners. I have to wonder what you would be saying had they not capitalized on the “million†errors.
As far as tonight goes, Lee is having a phenomenal season so far. It would be very, very wonderful for the Yankees to pull this out. But Cleveland has not struggled when Lee is on the mound for them, regardless of what they’ve done otherwise.
As for Detroit, they struggled early but had heated up just in time for the Yankees. And the Yankees are struggling even more than many other teams. They are missing ARod and Posada, not Mutt and Jeff. It matters. It matters a lot.
Yawning @ this offense.
Cliff Lee is pretty good. I feel comfortable saying that.
That was a nasty pitch. We’ve had chances the last two innings and can’t do anything with them.
Matsui, I don’t love you any more!
Sheesh…we need to draw pitches to try to get to their bullpen soon.
Yeah, Lee is very good tonight. It’s not the results that depressing. It’s the lack of fire exhibited by the team tonight and all season.
Erwin is hot
Every good game Cliff Lee pitches for Cleveland lessens the chance that C.C. Sabathia will stay with the team next year.
The month of July will tell the story if Cleveland listens to offers.
Okay……someone just needs to confess! Which one of you guys is paying off Tavarez on the Sox. He just allowed 3 runs.
tigers/bosox 8-4…a single ray of sunshine.
That was disappointing.
Get through this quickly Wang and maybe the Yanks can get something going
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-p2sbt_C4w
Great start by Wang…3 runs over 7 innings…the Yanks should win this kind of game.
the offense is so inconsistent. I am not asking too much, just break Cliff Lee’s road 0.00, please!!
Shelly looked like a legit 1 baseman there! He also has one of the few Yankee hits on Lee today. I wish he would play more often.
Three runs for seven innings, another quality start for Wang. Now the Yankeees need to score some runs!
Good job Wang!
We need runs. My rally cap is on. Come on!
5 BALL IN 7TH INNING
THIS IS WANG’S STYLE
I still say; If you can’t out hit them, out run them. Nice to have some speed up here while the other guys recover. I know, it isn’t possible (for many reasons) but we could use Justin/Brett and the general. Just dreaming folks! Don’t get all bent out of shape. It would be nice to have Brett in CF and the general at short. Speed kills…power destroyes, but only if one has the power.
To be honest, those guys may supply some spirit and energy, something that is lacking in this team. Just another thought, but could it be …the team thinks they can’t do it without the injured players? Wacky? Maybe! 27/08.
Lee gets ahead of hitters consistently…he’s pretty impressive
They have been hitting the ball hard these last couple of innings, but with nothing to show for it. Darn.
Erwin is the best part of this game
You have to get on base to run. The problem is, guys aren’t getting on base. When they are, they aren’t getting the big hit.
Cliff Lee has been dominating everybody this year. He throws strikes, stays ahead and isn’t walking guys. Sometimes, you just get outpitched.
Wang did a nice job tonight. Lee was just better. That’s baseball.
Not sure if they showed it on TV, but CMW waited on the field just now to talk to Melky before walking back to the dugout after the top of the 7. I’m guessing he wanted to thank Melky for catching that almost-homer.
doreen,
i’m sorry if you don’t get my point and you are certainly entitled to your opinion about this yankees team as it stands. the yanks beat the mariners because the mariners brought their “C” game with them. Beating a team who is playing sloppy is not something i would be proud of my team for. a win, is a win and it’s all great but seattle was playing crappy ball.
True, Cliff Lee is pitching extremely well but as you can see RISP left on base again. Lee was not untouchable tonight. Some fans here may believe so but not me.
The Tigers did not “heat up” for us, we had the 2 kids on the mound and couldn’t beat the Tigers own woeful pitching staff. Right after they left NYC they got swept by Minny.
I agree, hope when A-Rod & Po get back, all will be well but for now this offense reeks.
Just for the record, Cano hit 270 last April, 260 in May and 280 in June before taking off.
Career 237, 260, and 324
is this the first 3-0 count Lee has had all year?
Told you Ensberg is good….lol
Mo Ensberg owns the third base line.
Man, Ensberg KILLED that ball. His power is back! yes!
Speaking of great shows (from last night). To name a few.
The Office
Curb Your Enthusiasm
30 Rock
is that Farnsworth warming? didn’t he throw last night? what about Hawkins? i know Farnsworth has been doing well but i’m not ready to see him on back to back nights especially when you have a handful of fresh guys.
done4now -
So you took no satisfaction at all from the Yankees winning 3 games in a row, regardless of the “crappiness” of the opponent? You have to start somewhere, you know?
No, the Tigers did not heat up specifically for the Yankees; they had been recovering from their goddawful start and were playing decent baseball.
I’m not saying the Yankees are playing stellar baseball – far from it – but what I was saying with the day off comment was that in came at an inopportune time – they might have built on those 3 very nice wins where they were able to take advantage of a sloppy opponent, which they had not really done previously.
Burn out Farnsy ahead of his unconstitutional suspension.
ATTICA, ATTICA
Farnsworth is going to get suspended soon. That’s a two or three day holiday. If he can go another day, I’d use him because he’s not going to pitch for a bit.
Krazy Kyle time? Okie Dokie
well, i was talking about it earlier, winning games late. and here we are in another situation where they need to win late. will the yankees hitters finally grow a pair? find out next on ESPN.
I agree Doreen. You take wins when you can get them. Its not figure skating. You don’t get style points.
I never understood why some fans downgrade wins. Wins are wins in my book.
Its no surprise they are scuffling right now. Look at the lineup every night.
Just gotta battle through it.
Its not like its the first rodeo of this kind for the team.
Somebody asked earlier about doing something special for a first Yankee Stadium visit.
Just saw this on Brian Hoch’s Blog and thought this might be a cool thing to do for a first timer. I guess we never get to the stadium before 5:30 because I never knew this.
“The Yankees have an interactive feature up until 5:30 p.m. during batting practice where you can send a text message to the video screens down the left and right field lines.”
Did Bob Watson screw us again by not suspending Farns before this game?
Delucci is getting booed for every at-bat. Buck Showalter pulled the count-down lever tonight.
Our offense looks so sleepy. Wang is off tonight obviously but even if he had pitched better and only gave up one run we still need our offense to score to win.
Winning while beating a “C” team does not make you an “A” team. It only makes you a “B” team or slightly above.
SJ & Doreen, take it whichever way you guys want. I SAID a win is a win.
Mediocre success will appease low standards. Standards are a personal issue, so to each his/her own.
Can’t win games when you don’t score runs. It doesn’t matter how good or bad your pitchers are. 0 runs = a loss.
It’s only a month into the season and for the first time ever, I am starting to have no desire to watch them play.
the yanks going in tonight have scored 14 more runs then the inept Indians offense!!!!
the yanks cannot hit with RISP, this is a story of the early season…
sterling and waldman are unbearable, they never question the yanks inability just assume the other team or person is great..
Cliff Lee was sent down to the minors last yr. he is not sandy koufax…..
There are long faces on the faces on Yankee fans. Truer words were never spoken.
“Did Bob Watson screw us again by not suspending Farns before this game?”
if you call pitching a scoreless inning around a leadoff single “screwing us” then yeah.
do I give credit to Farnsy or Molina ?
I think we are getting close to the point where even the most Anti-Farns guys on the planet (me, Nick, Pete! lol) may have to come around to the fact that he is actually a useful part of this bullpen this season.
The guy has pitched really well so far this year.
Another runner thrown out by Molina. He may not be contributing a lot with his bat, but his defense is really good.
Another good inning for Farnsworth.
That would have been a better comeback had it been delivered with confidence — before the end of the inning.
But I bow again to the improved greatness of the Farns. Keep it up.
MOLINA! the best trade in Cashman’s career! Ok it was a solid pick up.
Well put, done4now!
okay Yanks, you’re in the pen now. Perez is good but it’s time to man up and show us that you’re good enough to beat a good pitcher.
Its not college football. There are no “B” and “C” teams.
Every team has hot and cold streaks during the season.
I wouldn’t give the standards argument. This team has gone to the playoffs for 13 straight years. I don’t think their standards are the issue.
The issue is, they are shorthanded and they are getting stopped tonight by a guy who has a ZERO ERA on the road this year.
No, he’s not Sandy Koufax. But, so far this year, he is pitching like him.
I must be crazy, because I feel compelled to mention that for years the Yankees have beaten up on the so-called “C” teams, while playing not quite as well against the so-called better teams and winning the division/getting to the playoffs in the process. You MUST beat the crappy teams over the course of a season.
Have the Yankees actually had a come from behind win this year ???
Intersting move by pitching Perez after throwing 37 pitches last night
why are people saying Wang didn’t pitch well? 7 innings 3 runs against a very good hitting team
well i couldn’t really say that before the end of the inning because i didn’t know at the time he pitched a scoreless inning.
come on Yankee bats!
Score some runs
you know it’s a bad call when Jeter says something
Yeah to SJ’s point i’d like to tell Trisha I don’t throw up in my mouth everytime Farnsworth comes in the game anymore. Now I just get a little nervous. So it’s definitely an upgrade by him. Could it be the walk year that has him pitching like this? Or is it that Mo cutter? Does Cashman resign him if he looks like this all year? When can we trade for C.C. ? All questions that will be answered this year on Yankees, the baseball story.
well now I get it if he can get 2 outs on 5 pitches
Doreen,
Exactly. The Yankees beat the Rays to a pulp for years. You pile up wins against whomever you can.
Look at Cliff Lee’s numbers this year. They are out of this world. In 45 innings, he has allowed only 27 baserunners (2 walks, 25 hits).
Of his 25 hits, 9 are infield hits. His ERA on the road is ZERO. His overall ERA is now 0.81.
That’s video game stuff.
Sometimes, you just get beat by a better guy on the night.
So far, Lee has been the better guy.
“I think we are getting close to the point where even the most Anti-Farns guys on the planet (me, Nick, Pete! lol) may have to come around to the fact that he is actually a useful part of this bullpen this season.
The guy has pitched really well so far this year.”
SJ, you were one of them isn’t. I am glad you came around.
When I was preaching patience with Kyle and Girardi commitment, not many agreed with me.
Right now the Yanks are going through a tough time. We will turn it around and will make the playoffs. There is a long season and the team will get healthy. The rookies will learn to pitch well. Second half is going to be very exciting.
nothing. how shocking. does this team have a 9th inning rally in their bones? i highly doubt it but we’ll see.
I would go so far as to say that tonight, even if Posada and ARod were in the lineup, the chances for the Yankees to score a run against Lee was very small. He’s in a zone, that guy, and sometimes, you just have to tip your hat to a superior performance.
So, who’s pitching tomorrow??
tomorrow is Moose vs Byrd i believe
How about a 3 run shot by Cano(Cabo) to tie it
Yankees to score 4 in the bottom of the 9th to win this game !
I miss Borowski!
Thanks Brian.
Don Vitto well they better
i’m inclined to believe a moose could destroy a bird any day of the week. we’ll see tomorrow…
Wang has been defeated … Q_Q
well if Albaladejo continues like this, it’ll be a bigger deficit than 3 to overcome.
Did Bob Watson screw us again by not suspending Albaladejo?
(I’m going on the counter-jinx theory right now)
that’s ok…. good walk, set up the force
well this is no good
“Did Bob Watson screw us again by not suspending Albaladejo?”
If by “screwing us” you mean load the bases with 1 out, then yeah.
Odds are looking pretty good on a three-game sweep by the Indians. (We seemingly always lose to Paul Byrd.)…Which will most likely be followed by another sweep at the hands of the Tigers. Hank is going to lose his mind completely after that… This is just not going to be a pretty year!
Even though there are three outs to go, the first run that Wang surrendered in the first inning seems to have already determined the result of the game.
The worst part of this loss is Perez and Betancourt’s continued domination of the Yankees. We are powerless against them.
more walks.. they are killing the yankee pitchers. I think Jonathon should visit SWB ..
how about bringing up another bat?/ Eric Duncan, playing well and what the hell you can never have enough 1B the Yanks only have about 5 crappy ones at the moment.
The counter-jinx worked again! Take that, Bob Watson!
Yes Molina! What a night defensively for Molina.
WOW!
NICE DOUBLE PLAY. damn things can’t get any worse for Hafner.
great play Jose…too bad we can’t get these bats going
Another nice play by Molina.
0 – 15 for the yanks when losing after *, that is not a good stat….
they go with a whimper.
if the score stays the same the yanks will have scored 11 more runs then the anemic Indians for the season but have played 2 more games!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
waste of a good play.
NICE !…only chasing 3 against one of the worst bullpens / closers in MLB…time for some EXCITEMENT !!!
I meant after 8 innings….Molina can field but he cannot hit….
I miss Borowski too.
Also, I finally bought a big screen plasma television. Wow! The HD is amazing!
Heck, at least the Yanks have played flawless defense tonight… Gotta have one thing to smile about, right?!
Time to get 4 runs
i think leyland’s going to up it to 6 packs a day…lowell just went 3-run yard to tie the game
Hey Johnny in Taipei, I thought for sure Wang and the Yanks would win today, my friend in Dajia Town sent me the Chien-Ming Wang Commerorative Personal Stamp Portfolio, it just arrived today. I thought that was a good omen!
If only baseball was more like football where you could score on defense – Matsui would have at least 6 RBI tonight!!
duh – Molina… was looking at Matsui when i typed that lol
there are the Red Sox coming from behind again. time to follow suit, Yanks.
How is it that the Tigers swept the Yanks again? On the flipside, wouldn’t it be nice to have some clutch offense like the Sox have had all year so far? We used to have that long ago… (sigh)
Joe T -
I was wondering!
“NICE !…only chasing 3 against one of the worst bullpens / closers in MLB…time for some EXCITEMENT !!! ”
Huh?
Perez and Betancourt are damn good.
Betancourt was amazing last year. Second only to Heath Bell as the BEST RELIEVER IN BASEBALL.
His ERA this year is a fluke. He’ll end the year with a low 2.00.
Borowski, OTOH, god I miss him now.
Was Mo even listening to Joba?
Can someone explain why Matsui has been swinging for a grand slam the last 2 at bats when they only needed a single, and in this inning they only need a baserunner. Dreadful at bats by everyone tonight.
Jeez. All tied up in Detroit? Ugh
Why is ESPN showing back to back BOS games next week? Peter Gammons has got some major pull.
As disappointing as we’ve been this season, DET has been ten times worse. They spent all that money and have nothing to show for it.
at 10 minutes per AB ,,,this BUM could take 2 hours to lose this game…what a bunch of crap this is that MLB allows him to take the game down to such a SNAIL’S pace….They need to put the stopwatch on this jerk. I heard the announcers say last night that he just FEELS like pitching this slow….SO FREAKIN’ WHAT !!!,,,,He needs to just pitch the ball….Baseball is slow enuff already without having to endure BettenCrap’s Baloney
Bad at bat by Godzilla, really bad, guess its all on moose now tommorow
would love to see a rally but I think Pete’s stat is telling. This is a .500 team at best.
question is how many games out of first and the WC will they be playing .500 from now until teh All Star break?
It looked like Matsui fouled off ball three twice. But he’s the professional hitter…
because Boston is winning… the Yanks, not so much
she turned around and gave that big booty a slap sslaaaaaaap, shorty get low low low low low
eh F…. it
In less than 1 min we’ll be a sub .500 team, yet again.
This line-up is mediocrity incarnate without A-Rod and Posada. They’ve lost 2 games with Pettitte and CMW.
Now they have to face Detroit with enigma and ineptitude.
This is going to be a painful weekend.
Yankees let fans disappointed deeply.
The bat is still cold and terrible.
Waste a lot of money,and just got worst bat.
The players can’t hit when they met stronger teams.
They just look old and weak.
To be the captain,J. Varitek seems better than D.Jeter.
The hitter of Red Sox is better than Yankees now.
This is my pledge to you all: If the Moose gets a win tomorrow night, I’m buying a case of his charity candy bars.
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Kill-Schill,
Don’t call this team mediocre! We’re just catching every team at their “hot” streak (sarcasm).
Could Coney get off Cliff Lee’s johnson? I understand that he is good but the way he is talking about the guy… .it’s embarrassing.
Everyone looks “good” against the Yanks these days…Even the Tigers will look like world-beaters against us this weekend, mark my words. Especially with the starters we’ll be throwing out there…Lord help us! Brutal, just brutal…
Oh, lookie, the bandwagon babies are crying!!!
Could Cliff Lee get off Coney Island? Huh?
“would love to see a rally but I think Pete’s stat is telling. This is a .500 team at best.
question is how many games out of first and the WC will they be playing .500 from now until teh All Star break?”
If ANY team loses two of its best hitters, it’s going to look like a joke of an offensive team, especially with two other regulars slumping badly.
W-L-W-LL-WW-LL-WW-LL-WWW-LLL-WWW-LLL-WW-LLL-WWW-LL
That’s your New York Yankees so far this season folks.
I guess I won’t watch tomorrow since it’s a guaranteed loss with that trend.
Great job by Wang
but garbage from the Yankee hitters
The Yanks really should be able to hit Byrd. It’s a quick turn around so put this behind and get them tomorrow.
I have it on good authority that tomorrow is another day.
Paul Byrd…That’s why it’s a guaranteed loss (unfortunately).
Is paul byrd the pitcher who looks like kelsey grammar?
I wonder if Girardi has had a team meeting yet? Or what he is waiting for. Most of the teams problems have been the hitting and not the pitching. There at bats are awful. They try to hit a grand slam every time there are runners on base. The top of the lineup should be carrying this team, but they cant do a thing. Betemit, Ensberg and Duncan are useless. It is impossible to score alot of runs when you have so many people in the lineup who never hit…but they should be able to score some runs. Lee wasn’t that good they just can never get anything going. 3 innings in a row that they cant do anything with runners on base it didn’t matter who was on the mound.
yay – the mediocrity of the yankee offense continues!
Rob – Yup, that’s the one! (High socks and all!)
No, it’s the guy that looks like Cy Young, at least the Yankee offense thinks he looks like that. LOL!
(Yes, Rob NY)
we are the only team indians can beat tells something
Betemit should have been left at Scranton. What a gip for the Atty. General!
Pedroia put the Sox up on Detroit.
Papelbon warming.
Detroit sucks…until this weekend of course.
sox go up, 9-8…
Actually, Boston is pretty good too.
THIS LINEUP SUXS!
the yanks have 2 HR’s from the cathcer psotion and 5 from 3B, and 0 from SS, Jeter has no power, they are offensively inept.. why don’t they add another pitcher so we can have 24 arms in the pen!!!!
Matsui on a long hitting streak with almost no extra base hits..
Lorenz said Yanks shutout for ONLY the 3rd time, they have played 35 games, 3 shutouts is alot.
I do not want to hear about no arod and posada that is bogus BS, they have numerous guys who should be able to hit, there comeback ability is pathetis…
toronta tied with the yanks, with no offense but a great starting staff..
Sizemore numerous BB’s this series and they have really hurt the yanks….
cano is really pickint it up, no worries we have the 1B disaster playing tommorrow with the great betemit.
I think I like watching them better when they lost 9 -7 becuase they have no pitching then these 3 to zip games….
boston comeback for a change, the yanks have no idea what the word comeback mean, they have not heard it in a long time….
I know it is ealry but this team is not real likeable, slow, no energy, overpriced guys, yeach….
get rid of giambi and other dreck please…..
so tonight was kinda sucky
Oh, it’s only the eighth inning. Detroit has a chance for one more, I guess.
IMO the hitting doesn’t worry me, these guys will come out of it. They are all experienced hitters who have proven themselves year after year. They’ll be ok.
It’s the pitching that worries me. Wang pitched very well, not great like Lee, but very well, but what will the MUSE do tomorrow? Can Rasner keep it up? Will Hughes come back healthy and ready to be the starter we hoped he would be? Can Kennedy get his head back on straight and give us a life later on? Was Joba’s break down last night, just an aberration or a portent of things to come?
It should. Pitching wins every time, Pepitone. Worries me too. Even if the hitters are in full swing, and everyone was healthy, they weren’t hitting Lee tonight. Aces shut down teams when it matters. Thats how they get the title.
mediocrity of th yanks offense!!!!!!”’It is not mediocore it SUCKS>>>>>>>>>
now th Cliff LEee admiration network proceeeds….
The Yanks offense sucks…..they have no speed, and no GUTS..
that is something that no one talks about the lack of comeback, tough AB’s, shows me they lack the brain or the heart…That is the bottom line the huge wallets has sapped them of either the head or the heart…
the are hard to watch now…….
Let’s face it, the bosox are a better team. Maybe when we get back to full force some day (if we do), we can compete. But when 40% of your rotation collapses, and two of your best hitters get hurt (among other injuries), you just cannot compete. This is the 2nd year in a row where we lost 40% of the staff. The curse is indeed reversed. And it is more painful for me than others– I live in this h*llhole.
Nick – Can I assume the $28/$8 variety based on the margin of victory?? lol
Stuart – I agree with you, it’s like there’s no fight in the team when we’re down, the red sox if you score, the red sox score more.. they get angry, right now, we don’t…. we need the toughness to come back and win these games late
900 runs this looks like a 500 run team
5.5 out
Or if 40% of your rotation just doesn’t look as good as advertised. 20% being completely inept and hittable.
Detroit with two on, one out.
moose has pitch 3 good games in a row hes gonna stink tomorrow
I think the polish has worn off of Okijima a bit. They should have sold high on that investment – but I guess this was the winter to hold onto high hopes for everyone.
almost definitely, 45678
Three innings, seven earned is my guess. Just when we’re ready to start believing he has changed, like so many times before, he’ll get his world rocked tomorrow.
The Sox are a far better team, as much as it pains me to say that. They have a strong and consistent starting staff coupled with a patient offense that wears out pitchers and gets clutch hits all day long. Also, they have a good mix of youth and veterans.
The Yanks are old, erratic, underpowered and usually overmatched. The return of A-Rod and Posada isn’t going to single-handedly change all that.
Sheffield battling okijima
“I do not want to hear about no arod and posada that is bogus BS,”
weren’t they like, 1 and 3rd in the MVP voting last year?
not for nothing.
Detroit blows great opportunity…
Sheffield sucks
I agree with you, Chicago Dave. And, pain is exactly the right term to use. They’re good, have as good an ace as anyone, have a great closer, some awesome performances from their two young starters (along with some eggs), all battle like no other team. Their is good chemistry there, and they all battle for each other.
I love how Girardi was VERY deliberate with I JUST found this out, I was NOT holding this back
To those not watching A-Rod is having a 2nd MRI before he plays in a rehab game – nothing wrong, just to check for progress.
I agree with you as well, Brandon. What a shell of what he was.
Reality Check said:
“Let’s face it, the bosox are a better team.” The Red Sox are the best team in baseball.
They are the World Champions until someone can beat them. They are superior to every team in MLB. Hitting, pitching, defense, mental toughness, and leadership – from the front office, to the manager, to the players in the clubhouse. No one is even close.
The only way they don’t hoist another W.S. trophy in Oct. is if they have a number of key injuries, or they somehow have a total mental breakdown (it did happen in 78). But that is wishful thinking.
I liike our future. If we can keep our youngsters healthy, growing, and jelling as a team, I like our chances next year.
don’t get me wrong I hate them but Youkilis fights, he argues, he is nasty. we have the diplomat jeter or abreu(Mr. wall) on this team… they are not a down and dirty team.
it is a long season I know but I do not like the mojo, that is why Joba not listening to Jose yesterday hurts.. when they cannot come from behind you need to win the games you are ahead…
there bench is not as good as I thought it would be; ensberg, betemit, etc all are the same big strikeout guys, slow, nothing much. .they had the AG(speed and contact guy) but they sent him down, I guess if you are under 19 they do not think he is old enough or something!!!!!!!!
they got schooled by a guy throwing 92 with 2 pitches….
Yankees’s offensive is kind like a joke.bombers never hit the ball well from other team’s best pitcher.
Paulie – Yes, you nailed it right on the head!
Ofcourse Girardi gives credit to Lee. This team NEVER admits the obvious. So if Igawa pitched against the Yanks and pitched a shut out then he would say how great he is and fit him for his hall of fame jersey?!! Either last year or the year before the Yanks were only shut out 1 time….and they were the last team in the majors to not be shut out. They have already been shut out 3 times..Just disgusting…The top of the lineup hasn’t done a thing. When Damon and Jeter don’t hit the Yanks have no chance to win. Snnce they need Abreu or Matsui to drive them in because no one else at the bottom can hit.
joeT, if Moose gets the win, I’m going for the whole case. $28, baby!
It’ll suck if I don’t like them. Hmmm.
Chicago Dave,
Of course I am biased and think the Sox have a good team, but I think you guys might be selling the Yankees short.
It is true that the return of Arod and Posada will not be the answer to everything but it will certainly help. No one expected Kennedy and Hughes to start out this slow, but they will improve.
I just know that this seems to happen every year. The Sox start out hot and the Yankees start out cool. However, as the season progresses it pains me to admit that usually the Yankees overtake the Sox.
“Sheffield sucks.”
Hey, at least we don’t have that bum anymore, right? I mean, as iffy as Abreu is in right, at least the guy can still hit!
It’ll be a long time before they’re ready to compete, I think, Pepitone. They didn’t even show signgs of competence, man. They looked beaten from the first pitch of the year. I don’t think next year is it either, unless they make some good signings this year. Anyone who wants either Duncan over Tex has lost all ablitly to think clearly, and CC would go a long way too..
However, we do have JOba.
I don’t know if you guys regularly check the SWB blog, but that guy is good for information about what’s going on down on the farm – - –
http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.....fault.aspx
Ray, you’re worries are for naught. It aint happening with this pitching staff as currently constructed.
TK in DC, that is nonsense excuse.. They have a 1b they are paying $21 mill. that gets a pass who is hitting 165 and refuses the hit to the left side of the infield, they have a 25 yr old 2B hitting about the same as giambi who throws away AB’s left and right.
they have a RF who bails out against lefties, is scared of the wall, and etc.
this team is not tough…remember chad curtis at best an avg. player but tough no nonsens etc.. who is that on the Yanks???Now they will do the other guy is better BS, how about we stink!!!!!!!
“I think the polish has worn off of Okijima a bit. They should have sold high on that investment – but I guess this was the winter to hold onto high hopes for everyone.”
he’s still good IMO but he has the tendency lately to give up inherited runs which of course doesnt show up on his stat sheet.
ray – Thanks for the optimism, but I’m not sure it’s warranted with this year’s club. Last year, I think it was more a case of a lot of guys just having unusually cold starts at the same time. Yes, the team wasn’t perfect to begin with, but it was still good enough to rebound once guys started performing up to their normal levels. This year the fundamental makeup of the team (the “mojo” as someone else called it) just seems wrong. So, I think that the problem is much more serious this time around…
If A-Rod and Posada can come back healthy and stay healthy, and, of course, they hit like they did last year, then it should certainly help the offense. However, I just don’t see their return as the key to curing what ails this particular Yankees team.
Kim Jones can not give an interview
stuart, you should call your Congressman, this sounds serious.
Guys, it’s never as bad or good as it appears in baseball. They’ll streak off four or five, and everything will be fine..Until the playoffs of course, when again, pitching wins.
Dave, Posada will never hit like he did last year, and expecting that kind of improvement over his lifcaetime avg. in every catefory imaginable is not fair to him.
Paulie,
Don’t you think there is the possibility that the Yankees could go out and get a pitcher before the trading deadline?
With Monila’s DP in the 9th, I really though we could get 4 at the bottom. Anyhow, Nick, even the diety at Dajia (Matzu) stands on the invincible Lee’s side.
Papelbon in
has Molina been hanging out with John Madden? “We give up runs and we didn’t score runs”
Stuart I agree 100%…. The red sox have those type of players – the Chad Curtis type players that might not be the superstar…. but they’ll run through a brick wall for you in any situation
“They’ll streak off four or five, and everything will be fine..”
So, when do we next play the Mariners and the Royals back-to-back? HA!!
stuart -
no one is holding a gun to your head to watch the team ok? if you don’t understand how taking the cleanup and 5 hole hitters out of a line-up causes the offense to seize up then you need to lock yourself in a small round room.
the pitcher we faced tonight had a sub 1.00 era.
You could be right Paulie. I am not going to predict a WS trophy in 09, but I will predict, if they clear off the “dead wood” and some salary cap space, and if they sign a “Paul O’Neil” or a “Scott Brosius” type player(s), then I believe they will be very competitive.
The direction they are now going is good news. Building the farm system, creating a team of home grown talent, with a sprinkling of the right free agent, trade, etc. in the mix is the formula for success in baseball in this age. Cf. Boston, Arizona, L.A., Cleveland, and others.
Ray,
No. Not one that matters. Again, maybe an inning eater, but they’ll be giving away one of the three, which is fine by me since kennedy flat out stinks, but no other team is going to touch him now…not for a starter of any value..
ray – Well, maybe your Sox will trade us Bartolo Colon? (Just kidding, we really don’t want him!!!)
Okajima still gets the guys out.. his ERA is sub 2….
why does giambi not get more grief.. The guy signed a 7 yr obscene contract and literally has done nothing for his 7 yrs.. remember the FLorida WS he couldn’t play he was hurt, this guy is the epitome of what has gone wrong the last 7 yrs.
the good news is the big sgining and the only signing this offseason was latroy hawkins…
The pen being overused now???????????
the only good news and it is important is that the yankee minor leagues are loaded with good players, that is different then a few yrs ago.. why not bring up Gardner and throw him in the outfield? I know there is no where for him to play…Maybe they move abreu or Damon or Matsui to watch this old slow team all yr. will be unbearable….
how can a team with the yankees resources not be able to solve the 1B problem for literally over 4 yrs. the lefty specialist issue has been gone on for yrs. also…..
I need a drink, goodnight.
bartolo is an upgrade over Kennedy. I mean that.
Chicago Dave,
Right now I would give you outright Lugo……ten errors this year so far.
As much as I hate the Sox, it’s hard not to admire them. They are a dynasty in the making in the mold of the 96-2000 Yankees and they could surpass them. Great starting pitching, a lockdown bullpen and an offense that can hit any pitcher. No pitcher can truly shut them down and if one manages to, you better believe they will wear them out the next time.
Only an injury to someone like Beckett or Manny derails them.
Lets see how the Tigers mess this up. 1st and 2nd no one out against Papelbum.
Tough game tonight. Hopefully we’ll bounce back tomorrow
Johnny, I lit incense for the Yankees at a temple in Lukang last October, but it didn’t work. Maybe I offended Matzu by not doing it in Dajia?
posada at best is a 285, 25, 90 rbi guy and that is at best and that takes into affect his avg. fileding ability,
and arod will not hit 54 HR’s again…
“No. Not one that matters. Again, maybe an inning eater, but they’ll be giving away one of the three, which is fine by me since kennedy flat out stinks, but no other team is going to touch him now…not for a starter of any value..”
That is a stupid idea kennedy does not stink ya he not good this year
That’s what I’m saying..When Giambi is gone, we can lose Duncan, the lesser Duncan, Betimit, and the other twelve first basemen on the team, and sign Tex. Sign CC to join Wang, Pettitte, Hughes and Joba, and sign a good OF to replace Abreu. Some youth, with some still capable veterans.
DAMN IT TIGERS….. BUNT… YOU HAVE CURTIS GRANDERSON AT THE PLATE, HE KNOWS HOW TO HANDLE THE BAT…. PUT THE BALL ON THE GROUND AND TIE IT UP!!!!!
Granderson up 2nd and 3rd 1 out!! Go Tigers!!
“posada at best is a 285, 25, 90 rbi guy and that is at best and that takes into affect his avg. fileding ability,
and arod will not hit 54 HR’s again…
why cant arod hit 54 Hr’s again maybe not this year but he can what makes you think he cant
ray – Can Lugo pitch? If so, we’ll give him a spin!
Paulie – Why would we trade for one of the only pitchers we can consistently hit hard? I’d rather have him on the opposition. Besides, Kennedy says he can make hitters look “stupid.” Don’t you believe him?!
Poor Papelbum..The game is tied. Lugo’s error didn’t help the matter.
YES!!!! THAT A BOY GRANDERSON!!
TIE GAME, WINNING RUN ON 3RD WITH 2 OUTS, PALANCO IS 4-5 ON THE DAY WITH A CHANCE TO WIN IT
45678
Kennedy is Mussina now. He’s not good. I don’t know why anyone thinks he is. I mean, whatever blows your hair back, but I think hes a AAAA pitcher, who will NEVER develop into anything more than a very beatable fifth starter. Let him ROT in Scranton for all I care.
Tie Game!!!!!!! I
Papelbon doesn’t have his best stuff tonight but this game would be over if Lugo hadn’t made that error.
Lets go Polanco get a single and win the game!!!! Go Tigers!
I always wondered why the Red Sox didn’t just keep Orlando Cabrerra. That was the stupidest move of boy wonder’s career.
Papelbon looks like Joba the other night…needs a map.
3 – 1 on Polanc, hitters count baby lets go!
YES !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tigers win!
The great hall of famer blows it!!!
blooper for Detroit. Papelbon blows it. Man, he should punch Lugo right in the face for that.
Paulie – Cabrera has had a pretty poor start with the ChiSox this year.
RED SOX LOSE!
TIGERS WIN!!!!!! THEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE TIGERS WIN!!!!!!! HAHAH PAPELBUM
Chicago Dave,
I have it on good authority that Lugo pitched in Little League so please give him a shot.
Oh well, both Yankees and Sox lose tonight!
Papelbon tossing water coolers in the duggout. Wow. Temper, temper big redneck.
TIGERS WIN!!!!!!
Baseball 101: hit enough weakly hit broken-bat bloops, eventually they start to fall in.
YES!
Off to the Lakers/Jazz game! Peace
Off to the Lakers/Jazz game! Peace
Is Paps not going to come back onto the field to dance his jig?
NOW I CAN WATCH YESTERDAYS: Alex Rodriguez
Paulie – were you directing that to me?
Anyway, I don’t like the Sabathia option, he will be way too expensive and we have been burned with that before (Brown, Johnson, Pavano, Igawa, etc.). I do like the Texeira idea, he would be great for 1b.
I would love to see our rotation for next year to be Hughes, Wang, Kennedy, Petttite, and Joba. If they could get another left handed pitcher (bullpen and starter), and a reliable lead off hitter, then I would be ecstatic.
tiger win!! yanks within 4.5!!!!!!!!
watch how the sux treat varitek in the offseason, I will be shocked if they give him a 4 yr deal, they are smart and not very sentimental……
Goodnight all!
Paulie………Click on the link I did an interview with him he’s a great guy.
Night.
25 – 15 Lakers
Nick in SF
May 7th, 2008 at 11:03 pm
“Is Paps not going to come back onto the field to dance his jig?’
That is cold Nick…..um…um….ok I admit it made me laugh.
Ray, in the past 24 hours we’ve seen Joba give up his first runs at the Stadium and Wang lose his first game, we have to find joy wherever we can.
Hey Stuart
No offense, but Varitek isn’t half the player Posada is (when’s the last time he hit .340) – so yes, a four year deal would be ridiculous.. Posada may end up a borderline HOFer on the other hand
It was kind of strange watching on gameday as Papsmears ERA went down on every hit against him. Wierd.
Weird.
One could see Farnsys’ improvement this year, if one were not so use of his blowing a game here and there. This year he has been good. A few of us have mentioned this, a time or two, but most passed on the comments. He is much better this year, weather it is the cutter or Joe G., I don’t know. Realistically speaking, I still think (With the people on the DL) the team needs a wake-up call. Get rid of some of these guys (Ensberg, betemit) and call up some rookies. Maybe Mitch Hilligoss or Alberto, for the infield. Maybe Brett or Justin (speed) for the OF. It seems that every time they bring up a high energy and hungry player…the team takes off, of course getting A-Rod/Jorge back would also help. Yanks are not playing well at all…is that statement redundant? Oh, well. 27/08.
Cliff Lee 0.81 ERA now? That’s Just Unreal.
Yankees
Age Salary RBI HR BA
A-Rod 32 28,000,000 11 4 0.286
J.Giambi 37 23,428,571 16 5 0.157
D.Jeter 33 21,600,000 16 0 0.300
J.Damon 34 13,000,000 14 4 0.273
R.Cano 25 3,000,000 9 3 0.160
Red Sox
Age Salary RBI HR BA
Mammy 35 20,000,000 24 7 0.318
David Ortiz 32 13,000,000 28 7 0.234
Kevin Youkilis 29 3,000,000 25 6 0.323
Dustin Pedroia 24 457,000 19 1 0.304
J.D. Drew 32 14,000,000 16 3 0.281
Rays
Age Salary RBI HR BA
Carlos Pena 29 6,000,000 17 7 0.200
Carl crowford 26 5,375,000 19 2 0.280
Eric Hinske 30 16 7 0.286
B.J.Uption 23 24 3 0.295
Yankees win17 team salary $207,108,489
Redsox win22 team salary $133,220,112
younger pitcher
W-L ERA IP GS G AGE
Yankees Phil Hughes 0-4 9.00 22 6 6 21
Ian Kennedy 0-2 8.37 23.2 5 6 23
Redsox Clay Buchhole 2-2 4.5 38 7 7 23
Jon Laster 2-2 3.94 45.2 8 8 24
Rays Andy Sonnanstine 5-1 4.63 44.2 7 7 25