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	<title>Comments on: &#8220;I&#8217;m going to make these guys look stupid&#8221;</title>
	<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/</link>
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		<title>By: bru</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-342331</link>
		<dc:creator>bru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 14:08:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-342331</guid>
		<description>the only players i wouldn't trade are betances,brackman,montero,joba,hughes,melky,cano,arod,jeter,wang.</description>
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		<title>By: bru</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-342313</link>
		<dc:creator>bru</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 May 2008 13:51:32 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-342313</guid>
		<description>i can't believe the yankees are going to start igawa.igawa will get bombed and kennedy will be back up for next fridays start because he is pitching in AAA on sunday.i wouldn't do a sabathia trade,he has a 7.51 era,1.77 whip,50 hits in 38 innings and the league is batting 3.14 against him and it will cost the yankees a lot of money and prospects.the yankees are doing it with quantity and quality.a lot of these guys will make it and a lot won't.they just need to be solid 1-3 and decent 4th and 5th starters.the problem is after wang they are not that great compared to most of baseball.if they can get a true ace or someone steps into that role,bump wang to the 2 spot or leave him at one,doesn't matter as long as they get an ace.i would have started mcutchen or olendorf instead of igawa or refuse to play the game and rest the players or have hughes pitch with a broken rib and being blind,please not igawa.if anybody in the yankees organization is reading this,please not igawa,it is a lost investment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i can&#8217;t believe the yankees are going to start igawa.igawa will get bombed and kennedy will be back up for next fridays start because he is pitching in AAA on sunday.i wouldn&#8217;t do a sabathia trade,he has a 7.51 era,1.77 whip,50 hits in 38 innings and the league is batting 3.14 against him and it will cost the yankees a lot of money and prospects.the yankees are doing it with quantity and quality.a lot of these guys will make it and a lot won&#8217;t.they just need to be solid 1-3 and decent 4th and 5th starters.the problem is after wang they are not that great compared to most of baseball.if they can get a true ace or someone steps into that role,bump wang to the 2 spot or leave him at one,doesn&#8217;t matter as long as they get an ace.i would have started mcutchen or olendorf instead of igawa or refuse to play the game and rest the players or have hughes pitch with a broken rib and being blind,please not igawa.if anybody in the yankees organization is reading this,please not igawa,it is a lost investment.</p>
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		<title>By: Doreen</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340938</link>
		<dc:creator>Doreen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 01:01:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340938</guid>
		<description>done4now -

Isn't the point to capitalize on the mistakes of your opponent?  It was a GOOD thing that the Yankees did that against Seattle. In many previous games the Yankees did not capitalize on mistakes, so I took it as a positive that they were able to do so against the Mariners.  I have to wonder what you would be saying had they not capitalized on the "million" errors.

As far as tonight goes, Lee is having a phenomenal season so far.  It would be very, very wonderful for the Yankees to pull this out.  But Cleveland has not struggled when Lee is on the mound for them, regardless of what they've done otherwise.

As for Detroit, they struggled early but had heated up just in time for the Yankees.  And the Yankees are struggling even more than many other teams.  They are missing ARod and Posada, not Mutt and Jeff.  It matters.  It matters a lot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>done4now -</p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t the point to capitalize on the mistakes of your opponent?  It was a GOOD thing that the Yankees did that against Seattle. In many previous games the Yankees did not capitalize on mistakes, so I took it as a positive that they were able to do so against the Mariners.  I have to wonder what you would be saying had they not capitalized on the &#8220;million&#8221; errors.</p>
<p>As far as tonight goes, Lee is having a phenomenal season so far.  It would be very, very wonderful for the Yankees to pull this out.  But Cleveland has not struggled when Lee is on the mound for them, regardless of what they&#8217;ve done otherwise.</p>
<p>As for Detroit, they struggled early but had heated up just in time for the Yankees.  And the Yankees are struggling even more than many other teams.  They are missing ARod and Posada, not Mutt and Jeff.  It matters.  It matters a lot.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick Bateman</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340862</link>
		<dc:creator>Patrick Bateman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 May 2008 00:01:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340862</guid>
		<description>Too bad the only hitters he can make stupid are in AAA.

Only guy who looks stupid is the pitcher who can't throw a strike and comes out in less than 3 innings at the Major League level.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too bad the only hitters he can make stupid are in AAA.</p>
<p>Only guy who looks stupid is the pitcher who can&#8217;t throw a strike and comes out in less than 3 innings at the Major League level.</p>
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		<title>By: Arch</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340785</link>
		<dc:creator>Arch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 22:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340785</guid>
		<description>SJ44
wow, good stuff not that I agree with you on everything but You should get your own blog.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>SJ44<br />
wow, good stuff not that I agree with you on everything but You should get your own blog.</p>
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		<title>By: Betsy</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340761</link>
		<dc:creator>Betsy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340761</guid>
		<description>color me unimpressed with this false machismo that Ian is spouting all of a sudden. It doesn't sound like him  - He sounds like a kid who is trying to sound tougher than he really is. I'm very impressed by his game last night and I like Ian, but I'd prefer that he let his pitching do the talking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>color me unimpressed with this false machismo that Ian is spouting all of a sudden. It doesn&#8217;t sound like him  - He sounds like a kid who is trying to sound tougher than he really is. I&#8217;m very impressed by his game last night and I like Ian, but I&#8217;d prefer that he let his pitching do the talking.</p>
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		<title>By: Glenn</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340758</link>
		<dc:creator>Glenn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:44:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340758</guid>
		<description>Before getting serious about a Sabathia deal, I would would want tp pick the brains of Nardi Contreras, Mark Newman, and "Stick" Michael to see just how high they are on Zach McAllister.
If they felt that another pitcher in the organization had a higher upside and the sting would be taken out with the loss of McAllister, I'd have to give it very serious consideration before Mark Shapiro turned into another Bill Smith.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Before getting serious about a Sabathia deal, I would would want tp pick the brains of Nardi Contreras, Mark Newman, and &#8220;Stick&#8221; Michael to see just how high they are on Zach McAllister.<br />
If they felt that another pitcher in the organization had a higher upside and the sting would be taken out with the loss of McAllister, I&#8217;d have to give it very serious consideration before Mark Shapiro turned into another Bill Smith.</p>
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		<title>By: Wander</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340749</link>
		<dc:creator>Wander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340749</guid>
		<description>I'm glad to see Kennedy is showing some fight and desire to get back to the top.  Hopefully he keeps that fight once he gets back.  This could be the wake up call he needed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m glad to see Kennedy is showing some fight and desire to get back to the top.  Hopefully he keeps that fight once he gets back.  This could be the wake up call he needed.</p>
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		<title>By: Drive 4-5</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340740</link>
		<dc:creator>Drive 4-5</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 21:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340740</guid>
		<description>There's another fact that makes the Sabathia trade distinguishable from the Santana trade.

C C Sabathia, only 2 years younger than Johan Santana, is not even close to being the same talent. Santana is better by any statistical measurement you want to use. It only stands to reason that a Sabathia should be worth far less.

I hate to give the Red Sox props, but in the Josh Beckeett trade Theo Epstein showed that he understands that you sometimes have to give young talent to get a pitcher that will put your team over the top. Brian Cashman has yet to demonstrate that he knows how to make a deal like the Beckett deal. 

Declaring an Ian Kennedy as "untouchable" was a big mistake. For the right deal, everyone should be on the table. The key is to use your assets wisely. Part of making an intelligent decision is understanding that if you wait 3 years for all this young pitching to develop, you'll then shortly be needing replacements for your 36 year old shortstop, 35 year old 3rd baseman and your 39 year old catcher.

They should have used their assets to acquire the best lefthander in baseball last fall. If they attempt to trade for a 260 pound, inconsistent pitcher like Sabathia they should offer the minimum amount of talent or wait till he hits the market.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s another fact that makes the Sabathia trade distinguishable from the Santana trade.</p>
<p>C C Sabathia, only 2 years younger than Johan Santana, is not even close to being the same talent. Santana is better by any statistical measurement you want to use. It only stands to reason that a Sabathia should be worth far less.</p>
<p>I hate to give the Red Sox props, but in the Josh Beckeett trade Theo Epstein showed that he understands that you sometimes have to give young talent to get a pitcher that will put your team over the top. Brian Cashman has yet to demonstrate that he knows how to make a deal like the Beckett deal. </p>
<p>Declaring an Ian Kennedy as &#8220;untouchable&#8221; was a big mistake. For the right deal, everyone should be on the table. The key is to use your assets wisely. Part of making an intelligent decision is understanding that if you wait 3 years for all this young pitching to develop, you&#8217;ll then shortly be needing replacements for your 36 year old shortstop, 35 year old 3rd baseman and your 39 year old catcher.</p>
<p>They should have used their assets to acquire the best lefthander in baseball last fall. If they attempt to trade for a 260 pound, inconsistent pitcher like Sabathia they should offer the minimum amount of talent or wait till he hits the market.</p>
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		<title>By: murphydog</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340680</link>
		<dc:creator>murphydog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 May 2008 20:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/07/ipk-im-going-to-make-these-guys-look-stupid/#comment-340680</guid>
		<description>The CC deal as proposed by SJ is distinguishable from the Johan deal:

1) The difference in prospect cost to acquire CC, also a CY Young lefty may be less than was sought by Minny for Johan.   

2) the emergence of actual need this season and next due to the '08 performance of Hughes and IPK. During the off season, the Yanks passed up Johan in part betting on an apparently overly optimistic view of Hughes' and IPK's '08 potential. 

This far into the season Cash is pretty sure his other kids can fill in for whoever is traded. (Obviously, the kids have more of a track record than they did last year). This, coupled with the '08 failure of the two young guns to take off, gives Cash the leeway to recommend using some prospects to acquire a "win now" pitcher. Using some prospects this way is entirely consistent with the commitment to youth and farming - it's not a switch from youth back to a "win now" program.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The CC deal as proposed by SJ is distinguishable from the Johan deal:</p>
<p>1) The difference in prospect cost to acquire CC, also a CY Young lefty may be less than was sought by Minny for Johan.   </p>
<p>2) the emergence of actual need this season and next due to the &#8216;08 performance of Hughes and IPK. During the off season, the Yanks passed up Johan in part betting on an apparently overly optimistic view of Hughes&#8217; and IPK&#8217;s &#8216;08 potential. </p>
<p>This far into the season Cash is pretty sure his other kids can fill in for whoever is traded. (Obviously, the kids have more of a track record than they did last year). This, coupled with the &#8216;08 failure of the two young guns to take off, gives Cash the leeway to recommend using some prospects to acquire a &#8220;win now&#8221; pitcher. Using some prospects this way is entirely consistent with the commitment to youth and farming - it&#8217;s not a switch from youth back to a &#8220;win now&#8221; program.</p>
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