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Stunning night at the Stadium

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 07, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

The odds of Joba Chamberlain finishing his career with an ERA of 0.74 and no blown saves were pretty slim. But tonight’s result was certainly stunning. Consider these stats:

* He had given up three earned runs in his career (36.1 innings) previously.

* The last time he walked two batters in an inning was in his debut last August when he was trying to throw the ball through a brick wall in Toronto.

* It was only the second homer he has ever allowed.

* It was the first run he has allowed at Yankee Stadium in 14 appearances.

* It was the second time in 31 appearances he walked the leadoff hitter.

“It’s over with,” Chamberlain said. “It sucks when it happens but you understand it’s part of the game.”

David Dellucci has 10 career pinch-hit homers. Nice call by Eric Wedge, pinch hitting for his No. 5 hitter.

A few things: Those people who booed the kid at the Stadium should be ashamed of themselves. … Joba was a stand-up guy, going right to his locker after Joe Girardi was done his press conference and answering every question. Teammates notice stuff like that. … Joba and Jose Molina clearly had some issues as the rookie (yes, he’s still a rookie) shook him off several times. The pitcher has to throw the pitch, but it’s probably best to listen to a catcher like Molina. Watch tomorrow how often Wang shakes him off. The over/under is once. Jorge Posada had some similiar issues with Joba last season. But what could anybody say? Maybe it takes giving up three runs to realize that your catcher maybe knows what he’s doing.

As for the rest of the game, while the Yankees had a chance to win they continue to leave runs on the table. Grady Sizemore’s catch in the fourth inning proved huge.

Great matchup tomorrow, Chien-Ming Wang (6-0, 3.00) vs. Cliff Lee (5-0, 0.96). It’ll be interesting to see whether Giambi sits with a lefty on the mound after he had some good swings tonight. Hard to sit Hideki Matsui (20 of 55) or Bobby Abreu.

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136 Responses to “Stunning night at the Stadium”

  1. Stephen M May 7th, 2008 at 12:39 am

    I think “stunning” is too strong a word. Surprising? Yes. Unfortunate? Sure. But I’d save “stunning” for October, a no-hitter, etc.

  2. Amanda from La. May 7th, 2008 at 12:42 am

    he certainly didn’t deserve to be booed. live and learn for Joba I guess. like he said “sucks when it happens” but it does happen, he’ll bounce back though.

  3. Russell W May 7th, 2008 at 12:43 am

    Who didn’t see this coming… 4.5 games back in early May. Cmon man. STOP STARTING OFF SLOW. Would it kill the Yanks to put themselves in a comfortable position to where they could lose a game or two without feeling like they are falling deeper into the mud?

  4. KurticusMaximus May 7th, 2008 at 12:44 am

    And they booed Joba?

    You know, it’s jerks like that that give Yanks fans such a bad name. Booing a serially bad player is at least understandable, even if it’s not an entirely defensible thing to do.

    But to so quickly, and harshly, flip on a player? That’s low.

  5. S.A.-I am still happy Phil Hughes was saved! May 7th, 2008 at 12:44 am

    It was “Enter the Twilight Zone Day” at Yankees stadium.

    Disappointing, but there are other games to be played.
    Let’s get them tomorrow.
    Shake it off Joba and learn from this experience.

  6. Yankees Ben May 7th, 2008 at 12:46 am

    Did they really boo him??
    Insane.
    Ok maybe they boo’d Delucci

  7. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 7th, 2008 at 12:46 am

    Thank you Pete ! someone in the team beat report world noticed the shake off is not a good habit to have him do and I bet Molina and Posada both don’t like rookies shaking them off, but what can anyone say. Seriously I’m glad Joba got the negative result because it’s a lesson he needs to learn before becoming a starter, you don’t shake off pitches at 22 when you don’t have an idea what the hitters can or can not hit.

    As for the boos …SHAME ON THOSE FANS, he is HUMAN !

  8. CB May 7th, 2008 at 12:47 am

    Tough loss but in the long term this was going to happen. Joba is going to get beat. That’s just the nature of the game.

    The good news tonight came from Scranton. Kennedy was absolutely fantastic. Just dominant – and dominant in a way that goes way past simply doing well because he was pitching in AAA. He put his game together tonight.

    I highly recommend everyone check out Chad Jennings recap of the game and the quotes from Kennedy, Nardi Contreras and Brian Cashman after the game.

    Many people said after reading what Kennedy said on the day he was sent down that Kennedy just lacked the confidence to pitch in New York.

    Some quotes from today:

    -I’m trying to say it humbly, but it doesn’t matter what I say, it’s going to come out cocky,” he said. “You just know. I woke up today and told my wife, I just have a feeling I’m going to make these guys look stupid.

    -It’s not so much here, it’s that I know what I can do,” he said. “That was the main thing I was battling with (in New York). It goes back to trying to be too perfect. You’re giving them too much credit in the big leagues. These guys in Triple-A aren’t much different. They could be big leaguers tomorrow, and some of them have played in the big leagues. It’s not so much the hitters, it’s myself.

    From pitching guru nardi contreras:

    That was a better game tonight than any game he pitched here last year.”

    Learning to pitch is a process. Tonight we saw Joba and Kennedy learn very different lessons.

  9. S.A.-I am still happy Phil Hughes was saved! May 7th, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Fans were booing Joba? Unbelievable. Shame on them.
    :(

  10. Yankees Ben May 7th, 2008 at 12:48 am

    Stephen right, BUT Joba c’mon its Joba, Well a Blow Job by Joba. Lol. i was stunned

  11. Dr. Cox May 7th, 2008 at 12:52 am

    If I was sitting next to someone who was booing I swear I would have smacked them. Where do they get off?

    This is why people bad mouth us as fans and why players are reluctant to play here. It is also why players have so much pressure.

    Fair warning: Im going to the game on Thursday and if something like this happens to Joba and you boo him, and I am sitting there, prepare to be smacked in the mouth.

  12. We Miss Paulie May 7th, 2008 at 12:53 am

    They booed Joba?

    Man, that’s terrible…really terrible.

  13. Stephen M May 7th, 2008 at 12:54 am

    I’m not sure they were booing Joba. I’ve been at the stadium plenty of times when the opposition hits a homerun. They boo until the fan who caught the ball throws it back on the field,, then the boos turn to cheers.

    Just a thought.

  14. Micky#7--Old Ranger May 7th, 2008 at 12:59 am

    What do these young guns have to do…throw shut-outs every time they pitch. I’m getting a little pi#@$ off with some of the so called fans. They will not acknowledge Farnsy is hot, they Boo Joba (the BP saver), they boo a young rook (IPK) because he is having trouble …as do most young kids. They ask for the GMs head because they are smarter then he is. Just shut the he#$ up and enjoy the game. Opinions are welcome anywhere in this country, but let’s be reasonable shall we…give the guys a break, nobody is perfect. Next time Mo gives up a run/loss are you going to boo him also? If it’s May (and it is) that’s my rant for the month…I thought it was ok! 27/08.

  15. myrtlebeachfan May 7th, 2008 at 12:59 am

    Stuart, I hate to rain on your pride parade, but disagreeing with you does not mean that one is “clueless.” In some cases, disagreeing shows all the “clues” in the world. But you’d never be able to see that.

    I happen to believe that Joba should be able to shake off Molina if he feels that he should. Molina clearly had no problem with what Joba chose or he would have gone to the mound. If you blame Joba for shaking him off, you blame Molina for not coming to the mound to talk it over.

    If Joba is a rookie and made a mistake and Molina is such an experienced vet, he would have come out and talked to him. I’ll reiterate this a million times if I have to.

    It’s absolutely stupid to be criticizing Joba for shaking him off a few times. He would have went to the mound. Too many of you evaluate things at the surface without bothering to look further into the issue.

  16. G. Love May 7th, 2008 at 1:00 am

    I heard a smattering boos at the stadium tonight after Joba gave up the home run.

    I was stunned. Mostly the HR stunned me, but to hear the smattering of boos after what this kid has done for this team already was just not cool.

    It was not a blanket of boos by any stretch of the imagination though. At least where I was on the 3rd base line.

    After the home run, everyone I could see was just sitting there with dazed looks on their faces. It reminded me of the looks of the people who hung around to see the last out of the ALDS last year.

    I don’t think any of us thought he’d give up a HR to Delucci. I probably jinxed it by telling my friend that Delucci lost his power now that he’s off the juice.

    Ha.

    Joba will shake this off. I couldn’t see him shaking off Molina from my seats, but you could tell something was not right.

    For a moment, I thought Mo was going to get the call once Delucci was announced. I know he was up and throwing.

    Tough game to lose. Especially with Igawa pitching this week.

    We need to start winning some of Andy’s starts. I thought he pitched great tonight.

    On a positive note, Giambi actually took some nice hacks tonight. Can he get hot? God, I hope so.

  17. Christine May 7th, 2008 at 1:02 am

    That’s pretty sad that Joba would actually get booed.

    Sometimes I am ashamed of my fellow Yankee fans. True fans should support your players in good times and bad.

    I know I am going to lose this argument because others will come on here and claim it is their god-given right to do whatever they want.

  18. Girardi on the DL May 7th, 2008 at 1:03 am

    Maybe the fans that booed were booing Girardi for having him stay in the game when Mo could have come in to get 4 outs.

  19. aaron May 7th, 2008 at 1:09 am

    Damon LF
    Jeter SS
    Abreu RF
    Duncan 1B
    Matsui DH
    Cabrera CF
    Cano 2b
    Betemit 3b
    Molina C

    my opinion

    or sit Damon and lead off Melky and puy Matsui in LF and DH ensberg against a lefty

  20. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 May 7th, 2008 at 1:15 am

    Fans booed Joba?

    I mean, I cursed loudly when he gave up the home run, but one run lead in the eighth tomorrow, I still want him pitching…

  21. Girardi on the DL May 7th, 2008 at 1:15 am

    Betemit doesn’t hit from the righty position so he is a wasted bat against a lefty. Put Morgan in 3rd even though his bat isn’t doing much, its better than Betty against a lefty.

  22. Girardi on the DL May 7th, 2008 at 1:16 am

    Face it, there are fans who booed Mo when he blew saves last year. Some are clueless.

  23. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 7th, 2008 at 1:18 am

    Cervelli has been upgraded to the 7 day DL in AA, keep an eye on that.

  24. randyhater May 7th, 2008 at 1:18 am

    A handful of paying customers at a baseball game had the temerity to boo a player for failing to perform up to snuff?
    Oh the horror, the horror!

    And I thought the freakshow in Austria who fathered his own grandchildren was bad.

    Nights like this make me wonder if God is still alive. What hope for our children in a world where rich athletes suffer the indignity of conditional love?

  25. Girardi on the DL May 7th, 2008 at 1:19 am

    Know what Farnsworth and Chamberlain have in common? Their ERA is exactly the same right now. 3.38. Weird.

  26. Dee (YES to Shelley and Gonzo, NO to Giambi and Betemit) May 7th, 2008 at 1:22 am

    I didn’t hear anyone booing Joba, maybe they were far from my section. But I did hear some (few) boos when Farnsworth threw a couple balls. Unbelievable.

  27. Yankees Ben May 7th, 2008 at 1:25 am

    Damon LF
    Jeter SS
    Abreu RF
    Matsui DH
    Duncan 1B
    Cabrera CF
    Cano 2B
    Ensberg 3B
    Molina C

    though I wouldn’t sit Giambi when he shows he’s warming up
    But let’s face he’s terrible against lefties this year, and Duncan needs some playing time and giambi a day off.

  28. Dee (YES to Shelley and Gonzo, NO to Giambi and Betemit) May 7th, 2008 at 1:26 am

    randyhater, I don’t think it’s about unconditional love for rich athletes as you put it. I think if you are a real fan in support of your team to win, you don’t boo. What good does it do to boo? No one performs better being booed.

  29. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 7th, 2008 at 1:38 am

    Really? They booed Joba…hard to believe…I didn’t hear that watching on TV…

  30. Say it ain't so May 7th, 2008 at 1:47 am

    Um, is it possible that they were booing the home run, the Indians, Dellucci… why are we all so quick to assume it was Joba they were booing?

  31. G. Love May 7th, 2008 at 1:51 am

    The booing was light. It’s honestly a non story. The media might try to make a story out of this, but when I say a “smattering of boos”, I mean very few.

    In retrospect, I think the boos were directed more at Delucci for the HR and not at Joba.

    I didn’t hear one person say a bad word about Joba. I just heard some booing after the dinger. It wasn’t raining down in boos. Just heard everyone’s frustration.

    My seats are in between 3b and the foul pole on the field level so in that area, you could hear it, but it wasn’t loud and certainly wasn’t unanimous.

  32. swo May 7th, 2008 at 2:04 am

    I’m pretty sure they were booing the person who caught the ball for not throwing it back.

  33. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 7th, 2008 at 2:14 am

    Nardi speaks we all listen

    Karstens,McCutchen,Wright,Sanchez,Garcia and McAllister updates :D

  34. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 7th, 2008 at 2:17 am

    and Melancon ^^

  35. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 7th, 2008 at 2:27 am

    Pete,

    I’m wondering if you meant they booed right after the home run or when Joba came off the field at the end of the inning…?

  36. Peter Abraham May 7th, 2008 at 2:39 am

    It wasn’t loud booing by any means. But when the inning was over and Joba was walking off the mound, there were people booing. It had nothing to do with throwing the home run ball back. That had already happened.

    It’s obviously ridiculous but it happens everywhere in the game. People at Fenway booed Ortiz when we were there earlier this season. How do you boo Joba or Ortiz? I don’t get it. It’s the same type of crackpots who get all upset when I make a little joke about something. Some people are just negative and hateful.

    As for Larry Bowa, his contract was up. The Yankees wanted him back but he made it pretty clear he was going to go to either Seattle or stay with Torre. For an older guy like Bowa who was a former manager, he wouldn’t really fit in with Girardi’s staff personality-wise. And while I’m sure he respects Girardi, hard for a guy like that to work for a second-year manager.

    That said, they miss him. He’d be all over Cano and he’s the best third-base coach in the game

  37. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 7th, 2008 at 2:58 am

    holy crap Mets fan war on Willy/Omar/Peterson tonight 8O

  38. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 7) May 7th, 2008 at 2:58 am

    Pete good luck on the WFAN tonight.

  39. Thrillington May 7th, 2008 at 3:02 am

    In the immortal words of Bib Fortuna:

    “Joba no botha.”

    He’ll get past it and move on. Happens to the best. Onward and upward and tip your cap to Dellucci, he got hold of one that ain’t easy. A heartbreaker to be sure, but come on.

    Love watching this team evolve.

  40. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 7th, 2008 at 3:15 am

    Pete,

    Thanks for the clarification…I am surprised they would boo him…I think I’m more stunned by that, than the fact he gave up a 3-run hr…

  41. no 27 May 7th, 2008 at 3:36 am

    Is it me..or does it seem like mr personalilty Kay has a problem with Ian Kennedy? I’m kind of getting sick of Kay. He sucks at commentating.

  42. Joe May 7th, 2008 at 4:57 am

    The pitcher should always get the benefit of the doubt when shaking off the catcher. No one knows their own stuff on a given night like the pitcher, and the game is ultimately in his hands. If he doesn’t feel 100% confident in a pitch called, shake it off. You trust your career and livelyhood on yourself ONLY. It’s great when the two are in sync and he doesn’t shake, and it is what you strive for, but unless you have an absolute head case out there on the mound (Nuke LaLoosh) you let the pitcher call his game.

    Yankees fans have bood lots of “stand-up” guys that failed to get the job done and they weren’t scolded by a reporter for it. You can’t have it both ways, PETE…if you want them to be Yankees fans who boo anyone that doesn’t get the job done, you are going to live with a “stand-up” guy getting boos now and then. If that is the way it is, then we shouldn’t boo Hawkins or Farnsworth, who by all accounts are good guys and good teamates.

  43. Lamb Chop LaLa May 7th, 2008 at 5:52 am

    Joe-
    I think molina has to make the call he knows what he wants in the situation. Catchers call games for a reason and there is a reason why the umps stand behind the catcher. Home plate is where the action is. There is a feel for the game around home plate that is different from the mound, booth or any other place. He knows how much he has to move his glove for the spot he wants. he can also read the reaction of the batter. Pitchers are way more forgiving for themselves if there stuff is just a little off but- a FB at 95 is way easier to hit than a slider off a bit off the plate.

    Pitchers often act shocked but they are kicking themselves for not trusting their catchers.

  44. gargoyle May 7th, 2008 at 7:53 am

    Jeezus people get over it. The kid is human. He’s going to fail sometimes. Wait ’til he’s a starter and Oh My God he gives up 4 runs in 7 innings. AHHHHH!!!!

  45. Patrick Bateman May 7th, 2008 at 8:25 am

    Whats up with the lack of audio Pedro?

    Heard you asking questions about mechanics in Sweeny’s audio clips, but you didn’t post any of Joba’s post game which I think really showed his poise.

  46. Betsy May 7th, 2008 at 8:30 am

    Sorry, but I really don’t know what to make of Ian’s quotes – it’s almost as if he’s trying to sound overly confident (which I’m not a fan of; I don’t like players on my teams to make predictions about how stupid/silly/foolish they are going to make opposing hitters. Just get the job done quietly – no muss, no fuss – like Mo) to compensate for his somewhat whiny comments a couple of days ago. Ian, just be quiet.

    I’m glad he pitched very well, but one start does not mean he’s conquered whatever issues he was having. A string of good starts will help and then, in a month or so, if the situation warrants it, he can be brought up again.

  47. jennifer May 7th, 2008 at 8:31 am

    I don’t understand the booing. How do you boo the kid? Yeah he blew it, so what!!

    Also this garbage of the wave at the stadium is starting to really tick me off. They didn’t show it on tv but you could tell by how the crowd was reacting booing when nothing was going on in the game. I only wonder if it is all the tourists and bandwagoners going to the stadium.

  48. george May 7th, 2008 at 8:36 am

    well, if Joba’s been shaking off Posada too, then he should keep it up, as overall it has worked out pretty well for him & the Yanks!

    it seems the attention to the shaking off is a bit much. it seems more execution – the fastball to Delucci ran out over the plate, if he makes the pitch then no one cares about shaking off Molina.

  49. Will May 7th, 2008 at 9:54 am

    Am I the only one that thinks Joba is trying to keep his off speed stuff sharp because he knows he will eventually be a starter sometime this season?

    While I think this is a good approach, I would save it for a situation where they are up a couple of runs instead of dealing it in a one run game situation.

  50. Shame Spencer May 7th, 2008 at 9:55 am

    Can people stop getting on the Yankees fans for booing their players please? No offense to Pete Abraham, but lately I’ve seen too many journalists/talk radio guys trying to tell fans who they can and can’t boo. Are you guys kidding? Even some of the people on this board have said its shameful – where do you people come from? You do the right things, you get cheered, you do the wrong things, you get booed, just ask Kyle Farnsworth. It is a pretty simple equation. I pay good money to go out to the stadium and see my team play and when I’m spending hundreds of dollars to do so, I can cheer or boo whoever I want. Its all a part of the game. If Hawkins, for example, didn’t have an 11 ERA to start the season, I can promise you he never would have had to change his number. One good performance and you’re back on the fans good side, thats the way the game is played. Especially with Joba, he must understand, with the light comes the heat.

  51. Zach in Port Jeff May 7th, 2008 at 10:13 am

    I’m still baffled as to how Delucci got around on that fastball. Very impressive.

  52. saucY May 7th, 2008 at 10:23 am

    i’m late to the thread and did not read all of the comments, so i appologize if i’m repeating anyone else.

    but the booing is nonsense. i have to think these are tourist ‘fans’ showing up for the final season at the stadium. see a broadway play, the statue of liberty, a game at the original yankee stadium where yankee fans are tough and boo any poor performance (well, at least in the eyes of the tourist).

    i’d poor my beer on someone if i were there and they booed joba. $8.50 or otherwise.

  53. ken May 7th, 2008 at 10:26 am

    Speaking of shaking off a catcher, there was a priceless moment in a Yanks/Sox game in April that was picked up by the YES team. Bucholz was shaking off Varitek with Posada at the plate. Varitek started looking annoyed. Then Varitek gave a sign for the pitch that Bucholz wanted and Posada gets a hit. Varitek takes off his mask and shoots a look at Bucholz. The expression on Varitek’s was as if he said a million words.

    It was a great insight on the game and great work by the announcers for picking up on the silent conversion between pitcher and catcher.

  54. saucY May 7th, 2008 at 10:28 am

    ken, you mean this?

  55. Sean the Disabled Mess May 7th, 2008 at 10:31 am

    It had to happen sooner or later. No one is going to be perfect the rest of their career. Joba will come back tonight and probably dominate.

  56. ken May 7th, 2008 at 10:40 am

    saucY: wow. That’s it. Is there anything not on the web?

  57. Wheels May 7th, 2008 at 10:41 am

    For Joba’s sake, I hope tonight’s game calls for him to pitch the 8th inning so he can make up for last night and put that behind him so that it doesn’t linger on for too long.

  58. Christine May 7th, 2008 at 10:58 am

    “Um, is it possible that they were booing the home run, the Indians, Dellucci… why are we all so quick to assume it was Joba they were booing?”

    Pete’s not an idiot. If he had thought that was the reason, he probably wouldn’t have mentioned it.

  59. Christine May 7th, 2008 at 11:02 am

    I’m sick of people saying they “pay good money.” Give me a break. I pay good money to watch them on television and to go to their games and I buy their merchandise. What makes you any bigger a fan than me or anyone else? What makes you think you have the RIGHT to boo a player on YOUR team?

    How would you like it if people starting booing you in everything you failed or everytime you disappointed someone?

    I would love to see you getting booed by your significant other when you were trying to please them. I bet after a while of the booing, your performance wouldn’t be any better. Think about it. Don’t be jerks.

    I WOULD like to see them win, but it doesn’t always happen.

    I think those of you that boo are spoiled and you make the rest of us look bad.

    Just support your team and quit acting like spoiled children.

  60. Joan May 7th, 2008 at 11:03 am

    “One good performance and you’re back on the fans good side, thats the way the game is played.”

    Yeah, that’s only as good as your next performance. With the booers, it’s all about “What have you done for me lately?”

    Stop trying to make sense of your booing. It’s just uncalled for.

  61. Bob May 7th, 2008 at 11:23 am

    The Bronx Bombers forgot the Bomber part of their nickname, It`s been a power outage so far.The roster is lop sided, too many relief pitchers not enough bats.

  62. bigjf May 7th, 2008 at 11:40 am

    I know they booed Joba, but it sounds more like a bunch of fairweather fans booing the results of the game more than anything else in this case. Delucci took a great cut to hit 96 up and in over the wall, short porch or not that’s a great job. What irked me last night was the pitch selection. I’m not sure what was up with all the curveballs, but you don’t need that in the 8th inning with a lead coming out of the pen. Very uncharacteristic for Joba, but I’m confident he’ll bounce right back and dominate next time out.

  63. bebop May 7th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    I would only boo my guy if he’s been terrible for a sustained length of time AND he’s a total jerk such as Modesi.

  64. Shame Spencer May 7th, 2008 at 6:17 pm

    oh dear god, “booing uncalled for”??? at a BASEBALL GAME?! are you people delusional or what? this is sports, these guys get paid a minimum of 400 grand a year, and if i wanna boo them i will. jeez, what are they? a bunch of 8 year olds playing little league? these are professionals, this is the position they chose to be in. i’m not saying ‘joba sucks now, take him outta the rotation send him to single A!’ we’re not in philly, i’m not saying we should all boo santa clause, all i’m saying is that if you people really think you have the right to tell fans who they can or cant cheer for your crazy. we make this team what it is and if i see something i dont like i have every right to show how i feel. that said, the kid is gonna be fine, but it probably does him well to get a taste of humility.

  65. Marc W May 7th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

    c’mon why would they boo joba?!? everyone has a bad day, give the kid a break.

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