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Rainout shifts pitching plans

May
11

The Yankees have adjusted their pitching plans. Andy Pettitte, Chien-Ming Wang and Mike Mussina will start the first three games in Tampa.

Joe Girardi said they are still discussing who will start on Thursday. Candidates include Darrell Rasner, Kei Igawa and assorted minor leaguers.

As for the make-up date, it looks like it will either be July 24 or Sept. 1.

Scranton’s game (and Ian Kennedy’s start) was rained out as well. He’s scheduled to go tomorrow.

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102 Responses to “Rainout shifts pitching plans”

  1. Wander

    I hope Igawa doesn’t pitch Friday night, I just got tickets yesterday for the game. I’ve already seen him pitch once, I’ll never need to see it again.

  2. mko

    Joe Girardi said they are still discussing who will start on Thursday. Candidates include Darrell Rasner, Kei Igawa and assorted minor leaguers.
    Why would it NOT be Rasner?
    Please let it be Rasner :D

  3. Payrod

    Why would they choose Igawa over Rasner at this point ? Why ?

  4. S.A.-No more Igawa!!!!

    “Joe Girardi said they are still discussing who will start on Thursday. Candidates include Darrell Rasner, Kei Igawa and assorted minor leaguers.”

    I vote Rasner

  5. Fran

    I would assume that if Rasner does not start Thursday he will open the Met series Friday night.

    Maybe they are trying to figure out which day (Thursday or Friday) they have better options of pitchers to bring in to pitch instead of (I hope) Igawa.

  6. Bob

    Why would Rasner even be a question for Thurdsday?

    Does it have anything to do with what schedule IPK will be on?

    Regardless, does he even have a straight face when he says Igawful is being considered?

  7. Wander

    I hope to god Rasner starts Friday…

    Who else could we have pitch Thursday/Friday besides Igawa? Who? No one else is far along enough to be called up besides Kennedy.

  8. whozat

    “No one else is far along enough to be called up besides Kennedy.”

    Not true. There are other stopgaps down there. White, perhaps. Giese could come up for a spot-start and then maybe stay as a swingman.

    It probably partially has to do with how Kennedy looks in his start. If they think they’ll need someone for the rest of the month, maybe they go one way. If they feel he’s gotten his head back on straight, and they just need a one-start stopgap, maybe that means they’ll do something different. I don’t think Geise is on the 40-man, but White (apparently) is. So…if they want to bring Giese up, that’s a little more complicated.

  9. whozat

    Marquez, White and Wright are all options on the 40 man. Giese isn’t, though they could 60-day Albie to open a spot. That seems pretty reasonable, given his injury. The issue then becomes what to do with him once Kennedy DOES come back. If they waive him to send him back to AAA, they’d probably lose him.

  10. Fredo Corleone

    White’s definitely on the 40 man. I’d guess he’d be the guy. Historically, the Yanks have given pitchers two shots, so I see Igawa getting one more look.

  11. owlnation

    “Joe Girardi said they are still discussing who will start on Thursday. Candidates include Darrell Rasner, Kei Igawa and assorted minor leaguers.”

    I vote Rasner

    I vote anyone else. Giambi even. He’d be better than zero-K Igawa.

  12. owlnation

    Historically, the Yanks have given pitchers two shots, so I see Igawa getting one more look.

    That’s true. However, I think that in Igawa’s case that’d be a mistake. In the unlikely event of a win, he’ll get a 3rd game, which he will then blow spectacularly. He will — for sure — blow another game before long. Why not see what someone else can do now? Igawa has had his chances last year. He is no good. It’s just that simple, we know this, we never need to see him again.

  13. Yazman

    Seriously, what would be the rationale for Igawa?

    Maybe if they are serious about giving him a shot (or more of a shot than against Detroit’s lefty-killing lineup), they’d want to keep him close to schedule.

    I’m with y’all — would rather see Rasner stay on schedule.

  14. Bobsy

    Come on. Girardi isnt stupid. He knows Igawa cant hack it and Rasner shutdown two teams. You pitch to a 3 ERA with the Yankees and you will win 20 games.

  15. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    the immortal Jared Burton (Steve Philip’s 8th inning solution) is about to pitch for Cincy

  16. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    Who’d ever think you’d be looking at Rays pitchers to see who’ll be pitching Thursday night. Damn they’ve turned into one heck of a force! For real. Kazmir pitches Thursday. As I remember the Yankees seem to have done okay against Kazmir. I’d rather have a “substitute” pitcher on Thursday and keep Rasner for the Mets.

  17. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    Trisha this is why rebuilding the farm was neccessary, before that started our best pitching prospect under 24 was Ted Lilly and Steven White. Sad but true :(

    That’s Jared Burton giving up these runs right ?

  18. randy l.

    you’d think a lefty like igawa that throws 90-91 could be get someone out and be at least use in some role.

    the yankees should just start using him in different ways to see if they can come up with something.

    i would at triple a let him go 125-140 pitches per start like he did in japan and simply see if the heavy workload helps. even dice k has problems with control over here under the american pitching routine.

    one thing about igawa is that he’s durable. he doesn’t break down. i say take advantage of that and run him out there until he drops. there’s nothing to lose at this point.

  19. Glenn

    There’s no sane reason why Igawa has to be used. It’s become a given what he does with opportunites.
    Better to take a chance with Steven White or Daniel Giese for a start until Kennedy is ready for his return.
    Other teams put unknowns on the mound to face the Yankees and more often than not they do a serviceable job.

  20. jonathan

    “Joe Girardi said they are still discussing who will start on Thursday. Candidates include Darrell Rasner, Kei Igawa and assorted minor leaguers.”

    if darell rasner isnt the one pitching then the yankees should have their heads examined

  21. Lefty

    The Rays are on their way to sweeping the Angels and will be on an emotional high.
    Why give them more reason to salivate by knowing Igawa will be a mound opponent ?
    As it is, they’re no longer pushovers.

  22. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    Brandon I hear ya. Good that we did it finally.

    I’m betting the decision about Thursday is going to hinge on what the Yankees do between now and then. Yankees win more than they lose, you might see Igawa. Yankees lose more than they win, I doubt you will.

    Just some talking points from the perspective of the organization. (This is what I am imagining they are thinking). Igawa is a big money contract. You don’t give him only one try and send him back down, especially since a lot of the runs when he pitched might have been avoided with better defense.

    I’m still not convinced he won’t get another try. In addition I agree with the poster who said that if the Yankees can find anything they can do with him to help the team - other than shipping him out for good :) - they should do it.

  23. whoa

    Igawa can’t really be an option now, right?

  24. whozat

    “especially since a lot of the runs when he pitched might have been avoided with better defense.”

    He gave up a LOT of screaming liners to the outfield. Whatever Betemit did at 3B (or didn’t do), let’s be realistic. He hung LOTS of offspeed pitches up in the zone. According to Jennings on the SWB blog, he’s been pitching up in the zone there too. According to Igawa, he felt his control was ok.

    That means he MEANT to put those pitches up in the zone. That’s not a problem that defense is going to solve. He thinks that changeups and breaking balls in the upper part of the strike zone are an effective way to get hitters out.

    Until he buys that no, that’s NOT going to work…he’s a lost cause at the MLB level. You can’t change the guy’s approach without his buy-in. And, despite getting HAMMERED repeatedly, he doesn’t seem to have bought in to the “pitch down in the zone” approach. He thinks he just needs to strike more guys out. Sure, that’d help. But, hey…how about NOT giving up line drives and fly balls on every pitch that does get hit, hm?

  25. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    what’s scary is they may use Igawa’s last start vs Tampa in 07′ as a reason he could pitch this upcoming game :(

  26. whozat

    “if darell rasner isnt the one pitching then the yankees should have their heads examined”

    For the people who keep saying this, the question is whether Rasner pitches Thursday or Friday. Not whether he pitches at all.

  27. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    whozat who’s responsible for his purchase, Jene Afterman, Pags, George or Cashman ? after all the stuff I’ve checked on it seems Afterman is 90% responsible for bringing Igawa to the Yankees her contract expires after this year all I can say is don’t bring her back if that’s the case, and I doubt she will be the first woman GM in the MLB.

  28. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    “That’s not a problem that defense is going to solve. He thinks that changeups and breaking balls in the upper part of the strike zone are an effective way to get hitters out.”

    I hear what you are saying. But playing devil’s advocate, what if some very good defense got Igawa out of that inning - we all know that Duncan’s dropping the ball at first would have been an out if he held onto it. Then there were some down-the-line shots that we agreed that Arod, and Gonzalez also, would have had. So what if he got out of the inning unscathed. Could that have bolstered his confidence and perhaps saved the next inning also?

    I guess I’m saying that the crappy defense didn’t help in terms of the organization deciding to give Igawa another start, if they do decide that way.

    If Igawa gave up all of those runs based on balls that nobody could have or should have had or gotten to, I would think the organization would be hard pressed to even consider giving him another start - though who knows, they may have a two-attempt audition already pressed in their minds.

  29. whozat

    “what’s scary is they may use Igawa’s last start vs Tampa in 07′ as a reason he could pitch this upcoming game”

    He gave up five walks in that game. I don’t think anyone’d consider that encouraging. Not with their speed.

  30. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    “…the question is whether Rasner pitches Thursday or Friday. Not whether he pitches at all.”

    Yes.

  31. Make The Right Trade

    Well, I’m back. Glad to see the Yanks held onto the wunderkinder Hughes and Kennedy. I voted for trading them for Santana and I still think they should have. Man, they’ve gotten themselves in deep now and you never know how a prospect will progress. Santana was a sure thing and although he’s given up the long ball 7 times, he would have helped us keep things a little more together, don’t you think?

    I do think Chamberlain’s special and the WORST case scenario is he stays as a setup guy and eventual closer. He’s the untouchable, as far as I am concerned.

    They’re gonna roll Igawa out there some more. They already have one investment in Pavano rotting away. Sorry to say this, but it is about the money. Does anyone remember if Melido Perez was this bad?

  32. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    whozat who’s more responsible for Igawa’s purchase, Jene Afterman, Pags, George or Cashman ? after all the stuff I’ve checked on it seems Afterman is 90% responsible for bringing Igawa to the Yankees her contract expires after this year all I can say is don’t bring her back if that’s the case, and I doubt she will be the first woman GM in the MLB.

  33. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    “Sorry to say this, but it is about the money.”

    I agree with you. I mentioned that yesterday in terms of why certain players (not just pitchers) will be kept around longer than others and not sent down.

  34. whozat

    “I guess I’m saying that the crappy defense didn’t help in terms of the organization deciding to give Igawa another start, if they do decide that way.”

    True. However, the fact that he gave up a plethora of hard-hit balls, claimed to be putting the ball where he wanted to, and seemed to think that his approach was just fine…

    And one could say that maybe he’s trying to speak confidently to the press, but I asked Chad Jennings specifically if Igawa’d still been up in the zone in his games at AAA, and he said that yes, he had been. From all that I can only conclude that he hasn’t drunk the down-in-the-zone koolaid. And that’s a problem.

  35. Rhapsody in Blue

    Game postponed
    by Ed Price
    Sunday May 11, 2008, 1:12 PM
    The Yankees, Detroit Tigers, players union and Major League Baseball are looking at July 24 and Sept. 1 as makeup dates for yesterday’s rainout at Comerica Park.

    Also, the Yankees are considering putting Ian Kennedy back in their rotation Friday and taking out Kei Igawa.

    “That’s something we’ll talk about it,” manager Joe Girardi said.

    Igawa, who on Friday allowed six runs on 11 hits in three-plus innings, was scheduled to pitch Thursday at Tampa Bay. But the Yankees will now push Andy Pettitte, Chien-Ming Wang and Mike Mussina each back a day, meaning Darrell Rasner can pitch Thursday instead of Igawa.

  36. whozat

    “whozat who’s more responsible for Igawa’s purchase, Jene Afterman, Pags, George or Cashman ?”

    Got me. SJ might know, but I haven’t “seen” him in days.

  37. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    I’ve been saying that for sometime, IDK what they saw in improvement to groundouts he had none , none whatsoever in AAA, Chase Wright actually has shown improvement and he was held at AA, McCutchen showed immense improvement and he was held back, when I read that statline of outs it was a joke how Igawa got that start in the first place and his postgame comments clearly explain his stupidity in thinking he can be Randy Johnson in his own mind, he doesn’t think walks are bad, location is bad, or keeping the ball down is good …GET RID OF HIM !!!!!

  38. Rhapsody in Blue

    Is it too late to say we want our money back?

  39. MackNova

    If Igawa starts over Rasner, I will throw a fit, and I bet most of the readers here, on nyyfans, and anywhere else Yankees fans might reside will join me.

    It shouldn’t even be a question, unless they think Kennedy is ready. And even then, hasn’t Rasner shown enough in 2 starts where you’d let him try a third one?

    It would be pretty crazy to see Igawa actually pitch, gauge the reaction, and then watch him throw a perfect game and listen to the FO’s response.

  40. Rhapsody in Blue

    Probably depends big on Kennedy’s outing tomorrow.

  41. Don Vito A. Bellamo

    That is just flippin’ crazy….Rasner, Igawa or assorted minor leaguers ?….are you kidding, me ?…How about we consider, Rasner, assorted minor leaguers or George W. Bush ?…any MORON in the NYY organization that is ACTUALLY considering Igawa for anything other than a permanent AAA position or a bus to San Diego, needs a full psychological evaluation….and I mean, NOW !…..Let’s all hope that this SIMPLE CHOICE is made and either Rasner or a different minor leaguer comes up…..( rant over….thanks ) :-(

  42. whozat

    “he would have helped us keep things a little more together, don’t you think?”

    I’m much more interested in building a team that can win long-term. Giving up one guy that I believe can be a front-end starter on the Yanks for the next ten years AND a guy that I think can be a 4/5 starter for the next 6 years AND my 23 year old starting center fielder for one pitcher really doesn’t seem to be a way to start building that team.

  43. Rhapsody in Blue

    The article by Ed Price stated Girardi said they would discuss putting in Kennedy rather than Igawa on Friday but because of the SWB rainout Kennedy will go tomorrow leaving just 4 days until Friday.

  44. Don Vito A. Bellamo

    Rasner would be pitching on regular rest on the 15th ( thurs ),,,on Friday the 16th, I would LOVE to see one of the OTHER Minor Leaguers ( IPK, I don’t have too much faith in…and IGAWA needs a postage stamp )…

  45. whozat

    “And even then, hasn’t Rasner shown enough in 2 starts where you’d let him try a third one?”

    Again, people…this is not a question of Rasner starting again. It’s a question of him starting THURSDAY or FRIDAY. Read and think a little before flying off the handle. He’ll start one of the games. Someone else will start the other. Which day they pick to start the “other” guy alters the options for who that other guy could be.

  46. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    Kennedy needs to stay in AAA until he earns his MLB outings, one start in AAA and then bringing him up w/o him showing consistant effectiveness of results in his secondary and third pitches in AAA would be HUGE mistake.

  47. Rhapsody in Blue

    From Chad Jennings:
    Rotation stays the same, apparently
    By cjennings : posted @ 12:04 PM : 51 Views : 1 Comments : Rating
    posted in Miscellaneous
    For what it’s worth, the Scranton/Wilkes-Barre Yankees game notes still list Ian Kennedy as today’s starter and Steven White as tomorrow’s. If there is any rotation shuffling going on to prepare for a big league start in place of Kei Igawa, it hasn’t been announced to anyone in Indy.

    ** UPDATE: New York, Scranton/Wilkes-Barre and Trenton were each rained out. The weather could let the big league team skip Kei Igawa and go with a fresh starter on Friday.

    Triple-A manager Dave Miley just told me Ian Kennedy will start the first game of tomorrow’s double header in Indianapolis. Steven White will start the second game. The Yankees could limit one of them to two or three innings and use him on Friday, but I don’t have any information on whether they will or won’t. I’ve been around long enough to know that’s the kind of question Miley can’t answer.

  48. Glenn

    The Rays have swept the Angels. Minus Alex and Jorge, a split may have to be acceptable unless run production steps up considerably. A good come from behind win or two could be the tonic these Yankees need to jell into a team.

  49. Rhapsody in Blue

    From the Post:

    WASHOUT A BLESSING
    IGAWA COULD BE SQUEEZED OUT OF ROTATION

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/05112008/sports/yankees/washout_a_blessing_110424.htm

  50. Dee – Pls bring back IPK and Gonzo!

    This is not just a simple decision of Rasner over Igawa on Thursday, but also who will pitch on Friday. Obviously pitching match-ups need to be considered.

    I would also weight the fact that Friday game is played at home under heightened media and fan scrutiny because it’s the subway series opener. If you pitch Rasner on Thursday, do you really want Igawa out there pitching under all that boos and camera flashes on Friday? Do you want all that pressure for Ian Kennedy’s first return game when he has already said pitching in NY stresses him out? Or for that matter for any of the new call-ups from AA or AAA? If I was Girardi that would be a big factor.

  51. Rhapsody in Blue

    Good news:

    Brewers pull Gagne from closer’s role

    MILWAUKEE (AP) - The Brewers yanked Eric Gagne from the closer’s role on Sunday after the reliever called his latest performance embarrassing and said he didn’t feel he deserved to pitch the ninth anymore.

    Good news for us, it happens just before the Sox start their series with the brew crew next weekend………..

  52. Kevin

    If the Yankees insist on pitching Igawa another time in the rotation (I personally do not recommend it myself) can they pitch him (Igawa) Thursday in front of an empty Tropicana Dome and Rasner on Friday in front of 55,000+ Yankee and Met fans? I honestly do not trust Igawa in any role with this team, but if they are absolutely pitching him in another game this week I would prefer to see him pitch Thursday as opposed to Friday.

  53. CanIGetAMooseCall

    Why on earth would the Yanks start Igawa when Rasner will be on regular rest? That makes no sense. (Of course, it made no sense to start Igawa against Detroit and they did it anyway.)

  54. Gary

    I believe Kevin Brown had a higher standing with fans than Igawa has.

  55. Don Vito A. Bellamo

    “Other options for the Yankees are journeyman right-hander Dan Giese who is 2-2 with a 1.13 ERA in nine games (six starts) for SWB and pitched Saturday.”…from the NYPost….my vote is for this guy….give him a shot….

  56. EndLessMike

    Man Gagne was one of the best closers three years ago and looked unhittable.Even Lidge about two to three years ago looked great.How sad how many great closers just a few years ago have fallen.This is why Mariano’s heir is so important.

  57. Don Vito A. Bellamo

    Right-hander Dan Giese who is 2-2 with a 1.13 ERA in nine games (six starts) for SWB and pitched Saturday
    .
    ….HE is your fill in man !……………

  58. Kevin

    I just looked the schedule and we are going to need a fifth pitcher this week so Igawa is going to be mentioned (why, I don’t know). Their next scheduled day off is next Monday the 19th. The fact that they brought up Igawa is insane and I think I deserve my money back that I bought on concessions for the only game I went to this season which was on April 3.

  59. Steph

    If they have a chance to skip Igawa in the rotation, they’ve got to take it. Put Rasner in.

  60. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    McCutchen or Wright should pitch vs the Mets ..Igawa needs to be deported

  61. JRVJ

    Wouldn’t a September 1st game have the advantage that the Yanks could have up to 15 players up from AA and AAA?

    (I realize that they would not call up so many, what with playoffs in the minors, but you get my point).

    Plus, A-Rod and Posada will surely be back by then….

  62. whozat

    “If they have a chance to skip Igawa in the rotation, they’ve got to take it. Put Rasner in.”

    Rasner

    is

    in

    anyway

    The only question is whether they pitch him Friday or Saturday.

  63. Kevin

    Well let us map out the rotation for the next few days to see if we can skip Igawa here:

    Andy-Monday
    Wang-Tuesday
    Moose-Wednesday
    Rasner-Thursday

    The problem comes on Friday-if Andy, Wang, and Moose can all go on three days rest I say skip Igawa, but I do not think that is the most likely scenario. The question then comes down to if they absolutely want Igawa to pitch where do you pitch him which is either in an empty Tampa ballpark or a jammed full New York ballpark. My answer is Tampa and have Rasner pitch on Friday.

  64. S.A.-No more Igawa!!!!

    Did anyone read this article on Andruw Jones?
    Tubbo seems to be a little cranky

    http://tinyurl.com/5vxlwf

  65. Rhapsody in Blue

    Any possible way to have Igawa’s green card pulled?

  66. S.A.-No more Igawa!!!!

    Here come the Lakers…

  67. Blargh

    McCutchen would require some roster juggling since it looks like he’s not on the 40-man.

    I could go for White on Friday, but I don’t know if he can given I don’t follow the minor league pitching schedule.

  68. Stan

    Outstanding numbers. So, just keep sending the guy out there ……

    http://www.baseball-reference.com/i/igawake01.shtml

  69. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    com’on Utah !

  70. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    damn you Fisher !

  71. S.A.-Deport Igawa!!!!

    Ugh. Overtime.
    Let’s go Utah!

  72. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    Lakers in troooooooouble

  73. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    JAZZ WIN 2-2 GOING TO LA !!!

  74. S.A.-Deport Igawa!!!!

    Woohoo! Go Utah!

  75. terms of endearment

    Lakers win! Lakers win! They are as tough to put away as DiceK! Finally!

  76. whozat

    “I could go for White on Friday, but I don’t know if he can given I don’t follow the minor league pitching schedule.”

    Thanks to rain, he and Kennedy BOTH pitch tomorrow. Chase Wright is another option. Not sure when he’s slated to pitch. Trenton was also rained out, so he won’t be on-turn Friday. But, perhaps he’d only be a day late or something. Or, if he threw yesterday he’d be on-turn for Thursday.

  77. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    unless a move is done on the 40 man roster I guess it’s Wright or White, the guy that deserves that shot is either McCutchen or Wright.

  78. Kevin

    Chase Wright according to the latest Trenton game notes (today’s rained out game) is slated to pitch on Thursday.

  79. whozat

    Wright pitched friday. So, he’d be only a day late if they throw him Thursday. And he’s on the 40-man.

    Yes, he’s famous for giving up 4 straight homers to the Sox. But…the pen was struggling so very much that he was out there to take one for the team. He’s back on the horse this season in AA, and I have to think he’d be at AAA if not for the glut of starters there (one more way in which Igawa’s hurting this team).

    More walks than I’d like, not as many Ks as I’d like…but his GO/AO ratio is in the right direction, at least. Perhaps his leftitude would match up well against Crawford and Pena, and maybe keep Floyd on the bench.

    But, if Kennedy does well tomorrow, I’d bring up Wright for a spot start and then recall Kennedy after that. If not…then maybe I bring up Wright anyway :-)

    Or, I tell them to throw White two innings and bring him up. If Kennedy is batshy all day…maybe then I make a 40-man move and bring up Giese.

  80. whozat

    Also, since I saw somewhere that Girardi mentioned Giese and McCutchen as two guys who are throwing well, that could maybe mean they’re looking at making the 40-man move and bringing up one of them. Or, it could have been in response to a question about non-roster guys. I dunno.

    Point is, there’s decent options. If they’re certain they’re going to call up Kennedy for the next turn around the rotation after he throws tomorrow…then, MAYBE it makes sense to keep things the way they are and throw Igawa. Maybe.

  81. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    why is it that Giese is getting so much pub he’s at best a long reliever ?, McCutchen is a different story Whozat, we know he can be a legit BP or #3-4 SP

  82. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708

    So, in the world of graduation gifts, where would you guys rank box seats Friday and tickets Sunday?

    Also, would Wang start Sunday?

  83. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    oh god I found something worse than Igawa’s pitching Romo singing at Wrigley :(

  84. S.A.-Deport Igawa!!!!

    Tony Romo is singing at Wrigley? Barf

  85. Kevin

    Why is Romo singing at Wrigley of all places?

  86. Mark Alan

    You’ve got to give Rasner another go. He’s proven that he doesn’t need time in the minors to mature or tune his stuff. He looks like a major league pitcher.

    On another note: Joe Morgan. Not many like his banter, and I’m on a small sports list with some buddies around the country, and I was pleased to receive a message linking this post: Peter Abraham Is A Fan Of Good Analysis. I told ‘em I agreed with Pete.

  87. Joe from Long Island

    Rebecca - That’s a lot better than what I got for my college graduation (back in the dark ages). I’m very jealous. Enjoy yourself. A lot.

  88. Blargh

    “Why is Romo singing at Wrigley of all places?”

    Romo went to university in Illinois

  89. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    I agree with Kevin and Dee. I don’t know what the Yanks will do but I would look at pitching matchups and decide that I would want Rasner starting against the Mets instead of having the 5th go on Friday. I definitely don’t force my starters into the Mets series on short rest so I am looking for a 5th pitcher in there somewhere.

    I am already giggling about what I might find here if Igawa ends up pitching again. Therein lies the problem of acting the role of professional complainer. Since there are posters here who are at fever pitch about anything and everything when they disagree with management moves, it’s difficult to take their screaming about anything very seriously!

    I definitely don’t put whozat in that category. So I take his comments about Igawa more seriously than I do some of the others.

    I wouldn’t think it makes a whit of sense to bring Kennedy back up at this point in time. I am so happy that Rasner has been working out. What a joy to have #4 taken care of at this point in time.

    Hey, wouldn’t it be a hoot if Boomer is brought back for a try? I would definitely be on board for that. It can’t be worse than what we already have slotted for #5, which is nothing!

  90. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    I’m bolding this to bring attention to it, since I think there is definitely some misunderstanding about this…

    What makes anyone think that Rasner is out of the rotation? How could you even begin to think that? We don’t have a 4th or 5th starter! Rasner has been great.

    Have I missed anything that would cause one to think that Rasner isn’t getting another start???

    The discussion is only about whether he will go Thursday or Friday.

    Am I correct with that?

    If so, RASNER IS STILL IN THE ROTATION!

  91. S.A.-Deport Igawa!!!!

    Who has been saying Rasner is out of the rotation?
    He is still in it.
    Many are just wondering which day we will see him next.

  92. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    SA, some are definitely questioning whether he will pitch again. I keep reading it. That’s why I asked about it.

  93. S.A.-Deport Igawa!!!!

    trisha-Well, I just see people wondering when exactly we will see Rasner pitching..not if we will ever see him pitch again. I think it’s safe to say Rasner will be with us for some time. Unless he decides to channel his inner Igawa.. :)

  94. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )

    even if Rasner channeled his inner Igawa I would think he wouldn’t find that Zen-like approach enjoyable

  95. S.A.-Deport Igawa!!!!

    hahaha

  96. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    “You’ve got to give Rasner another go. He’s proven that he doesn’t need time in the minors to mature or tune his stuff. He looks like a major league pitcher.”

    SA that was the most recent. I’ve seen quite a few like that, so I think some people may be getting mixed up about whether Rasner will still be in the rotation, where yes, the discussion was meant to revolve around when and not if.

    Is Karstens still around?

  97. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    Oh yeah.

    GO TWINS!!!!!

  98. Kelli in Conn.

    Hey, wouldn’t it be a hoot if Boomer is brought back for a try? I would definitely be on board for that. It can’t be worse than what we already have slotted for #5, which is nothing!
    - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
    Yes Trisha, it would be a hoot but it won’t happen. The sane thing to do is send Igawa to AAA and consult Nardi Contreras as to who is the best bet to plug the No. 5 start, Chase Wright or Steven White both of which are on the 40-man roster.
    Neither can possibly give less than Igawa has if the truth be known.

  99. whozat

    “Is Karstens still around?”

    He threw 42 pitches in an extended spring training game a day or two ago.

  100. Kevin

    Trisha I certainly hope the Yankees are thinking along the lines that I am thinking of, but they are probably not. If they are thinking what I am thinking it is start Rasner on Friday and anybody not named Igawa on Thursday as Rasner is the only person with enough rest that I would trust for
    Friday night. I am not minimizing the Tampa series at all here, but there are just some series in which you have to put your better guys out there against.

    The main issue that I have with the Yankees right now is that they spent 46 million dollars on a piece of trash. Of course with what they are spending they are going to look bad with him in Triple A, but that is the highest place where he belongs and he should preferably go back wherever he came from.

  101. trisha - I believe in Ks - Kyle, and Kei working out his stuff in AAA!

    Craig Monroe - GREAT AMERICAN HERO!

    3-0 Twinkies.

    :)

  102. zach in pj

    seriously, kevin youkillis is a hitting manchild.

    Jeez.

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