Game 39: Yankees at Rays
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YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Cabrera CF
Cano 2B
Molina C
Gonzalez 3B
Pettitte LHP
Andy Pettitte against the Tampa Bay hitters.
Matt Garza against the New York hitters.
Notes: Nothing new to tell you at this point. We’re expecting to get the results of A-Rod’s MRI today and possibily the pitcher for Thursday. … The Yankees hand out a list of upcoming milestones every day. Jason Giambi needs two home runs to pass Paul O’Neill for 15th place in franchise history. Obviously No. 25 can never be worn again once he does that. … Ian Kennedy starts today for Scranton against Indianapolis. Game time is at 6. Steven White twirls in the nightcap.
* * * * BREAKING A-ROD NEWS * * * *
UPDATE, 6:01 p.m.: The MRI taken today on Alex Rodriguez revealed progress but not enough to start playing in rehab games. Joe Girardi just told the media that Rodriguez will not be activated this week, meaning he’s out for the Mets series.
“We can’t afford to have him come back for two days then lose him for six weeks,” Girardi said. “We want to have him fully healed.”
* * * * ROTATION NEWS * * * *
6:05 p.m.: The Yankees have not officially announced a starter for Thursday. But it will be Ian Kennedy. He will throw 1 or 2 innings tonight.
Darrell Rasner will get the Mets on Friday.
Kei Igawa is in the bullpen, probably only until Kennedy comes back.
UPDATE, 6:43 p.m.: Ian Kennedy pitched one inning for Scranton against Indianapolis.
Infield single, batter then caught stealing
F-7
5-3
12 pitches / 7 strikes. Scott Strickland replaced him.
Kennedy has thrown 8.1 innings for Scranton. 2 hits, 0 runs, 0 walks, 8 strikeouts. He’ll be here to face the Rays on Thursday.
Personally, I’d think you want him to show a little more down there. But you can’t run Kei Igawa out there.
UPDATE, 8:30 p.m.: Teams always look bad when they’re losing. But as you watch the Yankees play the Rays, you can’t help but be struck by how athletic and energetic Tampa Bay looks when compared to the Yankees.
That’s the case for most teams against Tampa Bay lately. The Rays have won 13 of their last 18 and nine straight at home.
UPDATE, 8:45 p.m.: That’s it for Andy Pettitte. 4 8 5 5 2 5.
Jose Molina has 2 hits in his last 36 at-bats.
UPDATE, 10:05 p.m.: You know what’s amazing? For all their issues the Yankees are only four games out of first place in the AL East. The improvement of the division has kept the Red Sox well within hailing distance.
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Josh Thomson
I guess if Jeter hits tonight a home run he bats cleanup tomorrow Lol, by the way the only spot in the lineup Jeter never hit in his career is 5th.
great lineup…..9-4 Yankees WIN !
thanks for the update!by the way A.B.K. where do you get your line up so fast????
Does somebody know what the yankees bullpen era is???
Finally get to watch this one!
Al arodien- leave it to the pros.
if ipk has another outing like the last i dont know how you can’t bring him up for igawa….
Ooooo. Can’t wait until Giambi passes O’neill. You know that Kay will go on and on about it.
Go Yanks!
what are the chances we get a rain out tonight?
Melky,
From another thread:
No more weak underbelly of a bullpen as they [Rays} led the AL in ERA a couple of weeks ago. They’re #2 right now. Guess who’s #3 (3.34) and who’s #12 (4.56)? If you said your favorite team and your most hated team respectively, you win the prize. Cerveza or thin mints, depending on what’s in your fridge.
Their overall pitching is good as well. The Rays team ERA is 5th (3.90), Boston is 6th (4.08), and the Yankees are 9th (4.30).
Is it wrong that I’d like O’Neill to be in the booth when Giambi does it?
Would love to see if he would handle it more gracefully than the 21 issue.
Yanks bullpen ERA is 3.34 according to ESPN. 6th best in MLB an 3rd best in the AL behind Oakland and Tampa Bay.
J-Boogie
http://boogiedownbaseball.blogspot.com
A.B.K. – i think you just exposed that your 2nd name is Melky28.. OH OH!!
bphill,
Maybe a dinger sets off the sprinkler system?
Game time is at 6??
When will the Yanks start issuing triple digit numbers? How about information age numbers using numbers and letters? “Now pitching, #123b, CC Sabbathia” (his back would be big enough for the number too).
@wood is good:
Yes, for the AAA game…
Let this be the last time Paul O’Neil and Jason Giambi are mentioned in the same sentence.
oscar gamble wore ‘O’ for oscar !(his second stint)
we could give 00 to igawa!
M&MD reporting that Kennedy is pitching Friday against the Mutts.
WFAN saying they hear Kennedy pitches Friday instead of Igawa. Waiting for confirmation from Sweeney.
Kennedy pitching Friday in place of Igawa per the FAN.
Let’s hope this works out because IPK need to show some toughness when we need him!
you didn’t say that one of our AAA pitcher “twirls” ???…did ya, Pete ?
Thank god we will probably never see Igawa again.
so Rasner on regular rest on Thursday,,,then IPK after a whole ONE good outing back at the “farm” on Friday in the Bronx ?…I’ll have to say, I would rather have seen Giese, but as long as it’s now IGAWASchmank,,,I am in heaven !
pat! i just read it on nypost.com ! HE IS BACK! Kennedy will start on friday aganst the Mets!
bphill:
ZerO chance.! THey’re playing in a dome.
If and when Giambi passes O’neil. Does that mean we should hide Giambi’s number next year,so noone can wear it as well?
Will he be booed at the park when he does? How will Paul react to be #16?
i assume they will push back the #5 starter to next saturday night, so whichever pitches better this time probly gets the wednesday start and the other gets next saturday.
kennedy’s lucky, horne and karstens, who probably both would have passed him on the depth chart, are both injured, so he gets a 2nd chance. as the season goes on, more and more guys become viable options, joba moves to the rotation, hughes comes back and the competition for mlb starts will be much stronger
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports.....t_iga.html
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” YankeesNew York Yankees ’ fans will not see Kei IgawaKei Igawa the sequel, at least not any time soon.”
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doesn’t that just want to make you cry tears of joy ???
Well, that’s kind of a surprise about IPK. I was kind of hoping that they’d wait a bit to bring him back up. I like IPK and I want him to succeed, but I’m nervous about this. It’s at the Stadium, though, and not Shea?
Would rather see Kennedy than Igawa!
who’s pitching Sunday? Wang?
kennedy’s lucky; horne and karstens, who probably both would have passed him on the depth chart, are both injured, so he gets a 2nd chance. as the season goes on, more and more guys become viable options, joba moves to the rotation, hughes comes back and the competition for mlb starts will be much stronger.
i assume they will push back the #5 starter to next saturday night, so whichever pitches better this time probly gets the wednesday start and the other gets next saturday.
I don’t like that IPK decision at all.
WFAN source is the NY Post so probably should wait to see if it’s true before you get too excited.
friday- kennedy
sat-pettite
sun-wang
“doesn’t that just want to make you cry tears of joy ???”
I will hold them till he gets traded. This hasnt worked out and its time to turn the page.
pat- but george king is a pretty good source!
Doreen, it’s at the Stadium.
I would prefer IPK to get two good starts at SWB, but they must figure that Ian got it figured out, at least better than Igawa did. Got to trust Dave Eiland and Co.
Mon, May 12 @ Tampa Bay….Pettitte (3-3)
Tue, May 13 @ Tampa Bay….Wang (6-1)
Wed, May 14 @ Tampa Bay….Mussina (5-3)
Thu, May 15 @ Tampa Bay….Rasner (2-0)
Fri, May 16 NY Mets….IPK STARTS !!!
Sat, May 17 NY Mets….Pettitte (3-3)
Sun, May 18 NY Mets….Wang (6-1)
Doreen,
I agree. If Kennedy comes back as the pitcher we saw last season, I say it’s fine. But if he continues to struggle to get guys out, then it may have been too soon.
Regardless, we need the good Kennedy, not the bad one.
Freddy Kruger DA by the soxs.
IPK is a much better choice than Igawa. Just hope the Muts aren’t rained out tonight as that could mean Santana pitches Friday. I was listening to the WFAN this morning and Mut fans were calling in saying that today’s game should be called by the Muts for threat of rain…losers!
seems like pete doesnt buy kings stuff! im sure he will confirm it soon! you gotta love peter! he does his reporting with so much coution!
kennedy’s lucky; horne and karstens, who probably both would have passed him on the depth chart, are both injured, so he gets a 2nd chance. as the season goes on, more and more guys become viable options, joba moves to the rotation, hughes comes back and the competition for mlb starts will be much stronger.
wrong decision on Kennedy.
Okay, so, it must be specified by the Yankees that they are calling up the good Kennedy. (The evil twin Kennedy has to stay away!!!)
From gameday preview:
Tidbits
Yankees relievers have not allowed a run in 14 innings pitched over their past four games, and over the last 15 games, they own a 1.78 combined ERA, dating back to April 25. … Johnny Damon leads the Yankees with a .511 slugging percentage, and he’s batting .357 (25-for-70) with four homers and 11 RBIs since April 20. … The Yankees and Angels are the only teams in the big leagues who still have not played an extra-inning game.
(how sad it it that we haven’t been able to force extra inning? on the flip side, how great is it that we haven’t had any blown games to force extra innings.)
Now, the next question – what to do with Igawa?
He’s not going to learn anything new at Scranton (if that was it, he would have learned it already). He will only clog a roster spot and keep someone else from being promoted. He’s left-handed, so, maybe a trade. But who could be interested?
Oh, if IPK has to face Santana that would just stink, wouldn’t it?????
I’ll give 25 to anyone else right now.
I guess Kennedy will be limited to about 3 innings tonight then? Hope they are good ones for his sake.
Doreen,
Don’t want to wish harm on anyone, but how wild would that be if Santana went on the DL and faced Hughes in a rehab assignment?
It would be a mistake bringing Kennedy back already. If he comes back and stinks in his first start, what purpose did it serve sending him down. Let him make 4 or 5 starts down there.
if kennedy has to face Santana the kid would be a total head case
Jennifer, did I read that right? Boston has DFA’d Tavares?
Then they might have a roster spot open. Maybe they’re interested in Kei?
trade igawa for anything you can or cut him, move mc cutchen up to scranton
Kennedy will only pitch 1 inning tonight.
Mel -
I’ve thought about that extra innings thing, too. And while it’s not great that Yankees haven’t forced extras, that’s a good thing right now, because the bullpen has been stretched a bit. Until the starting 5 are in a nice rhythm, going 6 or 7 innings consistently, no extras, please!
Mike and Dog said this afternoon that Santana is likely to be pushed back to Friday. Don’t know if it was speculation or someone told them that as true.
they said Kennedy will pitch 1 inning tonight!!!!!!
56Bomber…they are reporting Kennedy will only pitch one inning tonight
Mel, you’ve got too much time on your hands
I would bring Kennedy back on Thurs and let Razz go on Friday.
Pat..as of now Santana is scheduled to start on Thursday but could change if it is rained out tongiht. if they do change him to Friday without a rainout tonight then they are just grandstanding.
Mel -
No! No Hughes v. Santana! Ever!!!!! (Not until next season anyway.)
Jax -
Is that true? Doesn’t seem like that makes sense. Three innings, I could see or a pitch count of some sort without regard to number of innings.
“kennedy’s lucky; horne and karstens, who probably both would have passed him on the depth chart, are both injured, so he gets a 2nd chance.”
Considering that he passed both of them on the depth chart last year, his first in the system, I would imagine he would be getting the start regardless if they were healthy.
IPK beats Santana on Friday ???…that would ROCK !!!
as bad as the Mets are right now in hitting they are going to crush Kennedy. He was sent down to work on his consistancy in throwing strikes and to improve his secondary and third pitches, this is not good at all, it dismisses the purpose he was sent down. Just imagine Moises Alou, Beltran, Church and Wright working the count on him sitting on the breaking ball.
He hasn’t pitched more than 1 game in AAA and now because Igawa is that bad we have to throw a SP and stop his progress, they couldn’t reward Cutch or Wright, they chose to throw Ian in the hot pan. Here we go again.
Don Vito A. Ballamo
May 12th, 2008 at 4:51 pm
IPK beats Santana on Friday ???…that would ROCK !!!
Now, that’s the right attitude!!!!
Sara – thanks.
If for some reason Santana is the starter on Friday, I would be very hesitant to start IPK against him for a variety of reasons: Santana’s record at the stadium and IPK’s comments about the media spotlight for starters. I’d almost rather throw Igawa out there and let IPK pitch another start in AAA.
Doreen that’s whats being reported it’s only 1 inning tonight. but if he is only going 1 inning why can’t he pitch Thursday? I would have Rasner go Friday instead.
Jax -
Maybe they’re waiting to see what happens with the Mets?
brandon mayve he has done some work while down there that has helped with that just not in games ie side sessions etc etc. At this point Kennedy canot be any worse than Igawa and maybe he has worked on some stuff, gotten the message loud and clear and will come to compete
It’s ridiculous to have Kennedy go against the Mets after working 1 inning in about 2 weeks.
I’ll go on the record as I went on the record w/ Igawa’s promotion this move to put Kennedy vs the Mets is a bad one and he’ll be lucky if he gets past the 4th inning.
Drew he pitched 7 innings last week in the minors
Drew,
LOL. Thanks for reminding me of my “To Do’s” that I put off.
On that note, I bid you a fond adieu!
Stay positive, everyone! Otherwise you’ll be jaded like Michael Kay.
mike and the mad dog said kennedy is facing santana friday and sween murti is coming on to confirm it.
I know Gayle, but when was that? 5 days ago? By the time Friday rolls around, he won’t be sharp.
whichever guy (ipk or raz) pitches better this time out gets the start next wednesday, effectivly becoming the #4 and the other guy becomes #5 and waits till next saturday.
“gayle
May 12th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
brandon mayve he has done some work while down there that has helped with that just not in games ie side sessions etc etc. At this point Kennedy canot be any worse than Igawa and maybe he has worked on some stuff, gotten the message loud and clear and will come to compete”
gayle he’s done nothing in AAA, Chaves hasn’t worked on anything w/ him, he made one start w/ the same principals he had while he was up here. He’s on a high right now, pitched one great game in AAA and thinks he got it. This is a model of consistancy right now.
Maybe they’re going to have him pitch one inning and then work in the pen?
(Grasping for logic here.)
doreen- how about in the WS?
I hope that Kennedy does well Friday night. He was talking about the pressure of NY and there is extra pressure for the “subway series”. And he may even face Santana which would multiply the pressure immensely. It’s the kind of game that could make him or really set him back.
This isn’t a model of consistancy right now. *
GOOD…Bring on the lousy Mets and SantScrubba….IPK and the Yankees will put a Bronx Beatin’ down on ‘em !
rasner is going thursday and kennedy fri b/c girardi plans to use him on 5 days rest (off day mon.). kennedy will have to wait until next saturday for the next start.
i guess that makes raser #4 and kennedy #5.
I hope its Santana on friday. Then Brandon can up the (J.Santana HR allowed count: 8 )to 11, Kennedy beats the man everyone wanted to trade him for. All the we should have gotten Santana talk would finally be over.Bring it on!!
they better match up Wang vs Santana
al arodien -
I don’t know!!!!! Maybe? But it’s doubtful; it would probably be Santana v. Wang in a WS.
“gayle he’s done nothing in AAA, Chaves hasn’t worked on anything w/ him, he made one start w/ the same principals he had while he was up here. He’s on a high right now, pitched one great game in AAA and thinks he got it. This is a model of consistancy right now.”
How do you know what Chaves has or hasn’t worked on him with? He’s been down there nearly 10 days already, are you telling me that Chavez has done nothing at all on the side with Kennedy?
“Obviously No. 25 can never be worn again once he does that.”
And yet it was the fans and not the media that couldn’t let the #21 story die….
brandon you may be right but do you know for sure he hasnt worked on anything during his sides??
All I know if that I would rather see Kennedy than Igawa. Kennedy has a better track record that is for sure. I saw him pitch a 1 hitter last year in Toronto he certainly has the stuff maybe all he needed was some head working and not some pitch working. I dont know I am no expert but you cant tell me that Kennedy is any worse than Igawa
“they better match up Wang vs Santana”
On 2 days rest? Or just sit Wang out until Friday? Or just have Wang pitch today and then again on 3 days rest? That’ll teach the Mets.
too bad about kennedy’s psyche, its time for him to put up or shut up. with the guys coming up behind him, he could get buried in the system pretty fast if he blows it this time. however, he’s been a winner at every level before and i think he’s about to blossom at the major league level.
btw. the metsies are playing much better of late, reyes, beltran and delgado have started
DOREEN! you never know in baseball maybe a game 6 after wang pitched game 1 and game 5 and santana only piched game 1 . you never know!
guys one thing you should know no manager will screw up his rotaition because a SUBWAY SERIES!!!
No one cares Julian Travers (sp) was designated for assignment?
I don’t want Igawa anywhere near the mound ever again, but I wouldn’t have brought Kennedy back already. They could have put Hughes on the 60-day DL to open up a spot on the 40-man for McCutchen or Jones, or even Giese.
“Obviously No. 25 can never be worn again once he does that…”
He he he he he.
About Kennedy starting Friday. Definitely wouldn’t have been my preference. Of course it will be even more interesting if he wets the bed tonight.
Since I am rooting for him to succeed in the bigs, I would have hoped that they gave him a lot of time to sort things out down below.
I guess desperate times call for desperate measures!
GO YANKEES!!!
GO TWINKIES!!!
“too bad about kennedy’s psyche, its time for him to put up or shut up. ”
It’s a good thing GM’s aren’t this impatient with young players. Kennedy has what, 9 ML starts if he has that many.
jennifer where did you see that have not been able to find that.Suprised he was and not Timlin
I feel bad for Tavarez since I’ve always heard he’s a nice guy, but beyond that I don’t really care.
side sessions emphasizing to do the same thing that brought him here raymagnetic doesn’t exactly involve working on things, 10 days also is not enough time to switch your decision on why he was sent down in the first place. Even Girardi said he still had alot to work on for Rasner it took nearly a month of side sessions to get him going consistant. This Kennedy decision doesn’t make sense.
I heard it all day on WEEI.
Lets Yanks # 1
In fact the guys on EEI feel pretty convinced that some trade has already been worked out since they don’t think they would have outrighted him without some deal in the background.
Michael Kay said it.
Boston Herald reported that Tavarez was DFA’ed..they’re trying to deal him to the Rockies.
And Gayle, I can’t imagine that Timlin will be too far behind him.
i see no reason not to release igawa. he will never be a major league pitcher and there is no point of wasting a 40-man spot and a scranton rotation spot on him. with karstens and horne coming back and mccutchen and geise, melacon and whomever else ready to be promoted, there is no place to put him.
as we say in golf, take your medicine.
does anyone even know for sure if the twins would’ve have taken IPK (instead of Hughes) for Santana.
i thought that the twins denied this, as well as cashman (for whatever thats worth).
i dont think its fair for either IPK or Santana to have this billed as a “what could have been” matchup.
Drew – for whatever reason Timlin is their boy. I doubt they’ll get rid of him.
trisha, they will if he keeps pitching to a 10 ERA
“side sessions emphasizing to do the same thing that brought him here raymagnetic doesn’t exactly involve working on things, 10 days also is not enough time to switch your decision on why he was sent down in the first place.”
Maybe the plan was to have Kennedy pitch once in the minors all along. Maybe the organization just wanted to give Kennedy some time off to gain proper perspective about things and then call him back up.
I however can’t say whether or not it’s a mistake to call him back up until I see how he pitches. Judging from the way he was talking he’s realizing he’s much better than he’s shown thus far and he’ll be more willing to attack the strike zone.
“does anyone even know for sure if the twins would’ve have taken IPK (instead of Hughes) for Santana.”
No…you’re never going to get the whole truth behind that.
Drew – they’ve protected Timlin for a long time. Maybe the worst you’d see is him get some time in PAWtucket. They always have an excuse for him. Just came off the DL. Hasn’t worked in a while. Missed by just a little.
Timlin is their fair-haired boy.
ray, i meant at the ml level. obviously you dont give up on a guy that young, but if he fails this time, they have to turn to someone else and he likely doesnt come back to ny till september. hes already dropped behind rasner and both phil and joba will be in the rotation in the 2nd half.
Hopefully they keep Timlin so Giambi can get a few more dingers off him
They think he fixed his problems in one start? I don’t agree with this call at all. He was sent down to throw strikes consistantly one start in AAA plus one inning does not illustrate that. The fact that Kennedy’s coming back up so quick just show’s how little they trust Igawa and how desperate they are for a SP w/ ML innings to his resume, but in this case it’s a bad decision they are passing up guys who actually worked to improve in Wright and McCutchen, it’s a horrible decision, this kid mark it down Kennedy is going to get tattooed vs the Mets.
JMO, I pointed out exactly that same thing to one of our IPK lovers on another forum. It would be disastrous for him to come up and pitch poorly. It would have been better for him to get a good amount of time down there.
I cannot imagine that if Igawa had pitched well Kennedy would be up after a few games down below. I don’t understand it and I guess it doesn’t much matter that I do or don’t. Connecting the dots in my book shows that Girardi does not want a revolving door of AAA pitchers. So Kennedy is the only other one I guess he believes in seeing, especially because Kennedy is slotted to be in the rotation at some point. Maybe he’s feeling good enough with the starting four that he is willing to give Kennedy the room to work things out up here since we no longer have Hughes and Kennedy both killing the bullpen.
So Ian is coming back vs. the Mets. Good luck to him…
Brandon,
If the problem was simply in his head then yes, maybe they do feel the time off has helped him.
Take Tabata for example, he was struggling mightily in AA. After his suspension he came back and was on fire. Seems like the time off allowed him to clear his head and just concentrate on doing what he does best.
If they feel like Kennedy’s problem was mostly in his head, perhaps his time away from the bigs has also helped him.
Who knows what’s going to happen on Friday? You think he’s going to get hammered. I’ll wait until I see him pitch before I jump to any conclusions.
“Connecting the dots in my book shows that Girardi does not want a revolving door of AAA pitchers. So Kennedy is the only other one I guess he believes in seeing, especially because Kennedy is slotted to be in the rotation at some point.”
The decision on who comes and goes in not solely up to Girardi. Cashman/Eiland Et cetera also give their inputs and I have to think Cashman’s word holds a lot more weight then whatever Girardi would think.
In case no one has said it yet, Happy 83rd Birthday to Yogi!
jennifer,
I care that Tavarez was DFA’ed, that means their bullpen just got a little stronger.
ray,
Hopefully, Kennedy watched Rasner’s starts. Stay around the zone and work quickly.
Happy B-Day Yogi
horrible decision to bring up Ian Kennedy here by the Yankees, he gets crushed vs the Mets be prepared to hear it all month. He has not worked on consistant innings in AAA this year, bad move, bad timing, bad FO decision.
see you later people. Go Yankees.
it doesnt matter if he’s worked anything out in his one aaa start, he’s simply the best choice for friday’s start.
I have a great feeling about this start for kennedy. he’s risen to the challenge at every level and pitching against santana is huge challenge to him (and his friend phil.)
He had it all going in his aaa start and just remembering what that feels like could kick start him. we’ve all seen him on his game at the mlb level and i think we’re gonna see him do it to the mets on Friday.
Tavarez did have some rough outings but he also had some good games. Last year he beat the Yankees twice before June 1st with both games being at New York with Wang pitching one of those games.
Two things: 1) Our favorite punching bag Farnsworth, has an ERA of 3.0 and ERA+ of 124, a K/BB rate of 3.6/ and hasn’t allowed a run in his last 5 appearances.
2) I think the Kennedy thing is not a wise move, but after hearing him sound so cocky after that SWB start last week, let’s see if he can take that kind of sauciness to the mound with him against the Mets, instead of his, “scared of the strikezone” routine.
Lol…Pete, perhaps you can pull up a bunch of random Paul O’Neil stats (such as most hits in a game, greatest number of outfield assists in a season, number of sacrifice flies, etc) and, once any player passes those numbers, begin a concerted campaign to 1) retire that player’s number or 2) boo that player for having the audacity to break the sacred O’Neil’s “record” in that area.
Maybe Red Sox fans will have an equal amount of irrational exuberance towards Kevin Youklis when he retires. The similarities between the two are great- overrated cry babies that smash crap in the dugout.
I believe there is an article in a competitor’s paper today about Brosius and his enjoyment of retirement. Night and day between those two personalities.
If I were Hawkins and O’Neil were in the stadium I’d let one loose ala’ Nuke Laloosh hitting the bull and aim for O’Neil.
In some ways it’s a high pressure start for IPK because he’ll feel like he needs to show that they were right to bring him back this fast. In another way, however, it’s an interleague game with little or no impact on the AL East standings, so maybe it’s a safe enough opportunity to test him in an MLB setting instead of another AAA match.
If he flops this time, however, I can’t see how he suddenly becomes reliable anytime soon. His next demotion might be a long one.
I think the same people who were so adament about defending O’Neil are also in the Jim “The Killer” Leyritz fan club. These are people who called up Knobloch’s home when he had his throwing problems and threatened his family but for some reason can excuse things like being a conceited jerk (O’Neil) or little minor violations of the law (like homicide).
The post says Kennedy will go Thursday and I can’t find another credible source saying otherwise. Thursday makes more sense.
http://blogs.nypost.com/sports.....t_iga.html
Yep, Kennedy will pitch Thursday instead. I guess that’s the lesser of two evils, and Rasner’s ice veins will be better served pitching against the Mets.
Sweeny is now saying Kennedy will pitch Thursday.
much better, that means rasner will be on his regular rest for the wednesday start.
JMO, no…..Rasner would have been on regular rest for Thursday. Wednesday would have been 3 days’ rest (Sunday-Monday-Tuesday). So he’s pitching on Friday on extra rest.
See how it all works out if we just wait for all the information to come in???
Makes more sense for Thursday, especially if the 1-inning limit for IPK is also true for tonight.
ANYONE but Igawa filling this need right now is a total blessing…JMHO…
teixeira left game early with back spasms. anybody know about his injury history? is it an ongoing problem?
A couple of points:
*This is not a “desperate times for desperate measures” situation. We’re talking about a mid-May start.
*Igawa is not getting DFA’d. Stop the nonsense. There are a few teams out there that would take him right now because of the Yanks history with guys like Vasquez and Contreras. The thinking is that he can’t handle NY but would succeed in another environment…and he’s a lefty. The worst thing the Yanks would do to him is trade him…but he’s not getting DFA’d. They will want to get some value for him and can get a little something in return.
*IPK has been working with both the AAA pitching coach and Nardi extensively during his time in Scranton. They have been working both mental things and mechanical things.
Breaking A-Rod news just posted
Aw man, A-Rod’s out for the Mets? Big blow.
What’s this about Kennedy pitching on Friday? Has it been confirmed?
Thursday for Kennedy? Cool beans.
Better safe than sorry. We can handle these games !!! GET WELL, ALEX !
No Alex for the Mets.
Well, that sucks, but I want the man to be ok. Not come back and get hurt again. We will survive.
“Kei Igawa is in the bullpen, probably only until Kennedy comes back.”
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and he can strap himself to a seat, ‘cuz he’ll only enter a game that we are up by 20 in !!!
It’s definitely better to be safe than sorry, but I miss not seeing him at third. Last thing the Yanks need is for A-Rod to have to go out for even more time than he has already lost.
damn i was looking foward to seeing alex play damn
Doreen,
I don’t know. Aren’t you mad that Pete didn’t give us the scoop. That he didn’t post before talking to the manager?
I want first information, not best information. lol.
So there’s probably no chance of seeing Arod on the 22nd right? That’s my next game (taking my mom to see her first game in a long time, too)
JMO,
It seems to be contagious. Tex is the 3rd player in the last week to get back spasms.
He’s pitching Tursday not Friday. I don’t know where people saw he was pitching Friday.
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!
ESPN released thier nfl power rankings and named the videographers #1.
HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
go ahead and wear that on your finger!
Obviously the Yankees are better with A-Rod and Posada, but I don’t know why everyone is so down about A-Rod being out, acting as though we are fielding a AA team right now. You look at teams like Oakland (23-16) and Minnesota (19-17) and they don’t have an A-Rod or an Abreu or a Matsui or even a Giambi for that matter. If the Yankees can keep getting starts like Rasner gave them on Sunday, then there is no reason they can’t get on a roll. Pitching is going to get them to first place not A-Rod’s bat.
BUMP for PETE from Fatso on the fan
Neil –
Have you seen Morgan Ensberg at the plate? Not pretty.
Scoop Abraham!
Tank Francesa with a shout out for Pete
cited by Mike and the Doggie. Cha ching
Burnett’s still in a game they’re losing 3-0. 8th inning @ 117 pitches. A lot of managers would’ve taken him out after the four pitch walk.
Followed by another walk.
Oh, wait, manager just woke up. Taking him out now. I know you want to save your bullpen for the night game, but really?
Kennedy only 12 pitches? 7 were strikes tonight.
Kennedy’s not ready. He gave up a hit. j/k
Are the Yanks going to use the pink bats tonight since yesterday was a rainout?
NY Fan,
Good point haha. I doubt it.
Though it did seem that many players who used those bats yesterday were fairly lucky.
This is kind of odd–I saw Rasner pitch for Scranton like two weeks ago, and now I’ll get to see him pitch in person on Friday.
Life is good.
Why did they send Kennedy down, only to bring him back after one start?
Has he recovered his nerve? That was all that was missing.
IPK gave up a hit? Send him to TRENTON!!!
“This is not a ‘desperate times for desperate measures’ situation. We’re talking about a mid-May start.”
Interesting point and all the more reason Kennedy coming up after a week and a half is pretty surprising to me. It’s being treated as a desperate situation.
Or let’s look it at it another way. Despite all of the votes on this forum for different pitchers from down below, it doesn’t appear that the Yankee organization sees it the same way.
I still believe that Joe Girardi does not want the revolving door pitching that the Yankees had over past seasons and especially last season. It ends up hurting both the Yanks and the teams below. He’s gone with AAA starters who have had major league experience thus far. Looks like that isn’t changing soon.
All I can say here is thank God that Igawa is being sent back to the minors. My suggestion is have him stay down in Tampa and have a special pitching instructor work with him on his deficiencies (may end up being a large task, but at least it won’t use up any Minor League roster space).
How is SWB third in their league in runs with such a seemingly bad lineup???
LOL, can’t believe M&MD quoted this blog.
Are they finally getting more internet savvy?
They are smart to quote sources, all day they quoted Geroge King and un-surprisingly King was wrong on the days, he’s usually wrong.
“Has he recovered his nerve?”
The answer to that question will come on Thursday
Before we get ahead of ourselves- lets make sure Yanks win this series since its a 4 game series. Pettitte should get a good outing today and then hopefully good against the Mets. Last one was good, the two before not so good. But, he’s gonna get it done. Plus, great numbers in Trop Field.
as long as kennedy doesnt walk anyone
question – wasn’t listening to MMD – what did they say about the blog?
They just credited Pete Abraham’s blog.
As for Kennedy, I don’t think they were ever serious about sending him down, especially after Hughes got hurt. Truth is, if Rasner contributes, they can deal with one pitcher in IPK who is a work in progress. I said at the time, they would send him down for one start, didn’t anticipate the rainout, but that’s how it played out. Kennedy will be a fine 5th starter now that the schedule is easing up.
Rayblay,
Because they have some major leaguers + the pesky Gardner!
For those who miss the old Gameday, they’re using it @ milb.com
Did something happen to Pete? His update dropped off.
hope the game goes great, once again I don’t get to watch it
I was just looking at their lineup today and was seeing bad BA after bad BA…
12 pitches…
i assume kennedy will get more pitches in – in the bullpen – to tune up for thurs
I don’t understand jerking Kennedy around. The point of sending him down was to get his head screwed on straight and get his “groove” back. Having him throw with unusual rest against a very hot team (the Rays) is just going to make it harder for him to get things going at the major-league level. The Yankees would’ve been better up calling another farmhand to pitch Thursday, then having Kennedy pitch on regular rest after throwing a good game tonight.
Rayblay,
You’re right. No one in the 300’s, although someone’s hitting .435
In my opinion, I totally agree with Pete & think that they’re bringing back Kennedy way too fast, but hey, they’re the ones in charge, hopefully they know what they’re doing.
phillips just said that the yankees are not going to contend and that the jays and rays are better.
Wow lots of talk on one of my favorite people of all time….. Joe Morgan. Randy I’m not sure what games you watch or what you consider a “knowledgable†announcer but Morgan is awful. He’s a hall of famer… that’s great. That entitles him to have a microphone and spit his nonsense on national TV? I don’t think so.
He’s the worst. Its painful to listen to him. He’s consistently wrong and I completely disagree that his analysis goes over the average fan’s head. Its not true. The guy is an idiot and needs to be replaced. The fact that you bring up his race is just silly and not even worthy of a response.
I feel like lots of other people in that I think I know more about the game than he does. I find myself telling him to shut up out loud when I watch games he announces. If there was a way to mute him and listen to Jon Miller I would.
On to other things…..
Dan Giese should get the start on Thurs./Fri. I said this yesterday. Not only does he give us the best chance to win, he has more experience. People sleep on him because he’s old and typically the experts say his ceiling isn’t very high. So what. I want a guy who’s going to throw strikes and keep us in the game. Giese has been great in AAA this year. Look at the stats. He’s been stretched out as a starter and has gotten better and better as the year has gone on.
McCutchen isn’t ready, no matter what anyone says. Chase Wright has average stuff at best and got shelled when called up last year. Steven White has been inconsistent/bad this year, as has Marquez. And I don’t think we’re seeing Kennedy for awhile. His problems need a lot more than one start to fix, and anyone who has watched him pitch this year should find that pretty obvious. I think the earliest you see him is July.
Igawa is a totally different case. I actually think he could be decent as a long reliever. He’s durable and I think a lot of his problems are between his ears. Maybe if he doesn’t know when he’s going to pitch that will help him from overthinking things. I remember him doing well in relief in a game or 2 last year. Its so frustrating because the guy actually has very good stuff.
Ensberg is probably on his way out when A Rod comes back. When I saw AG in the lineup today and seeing Ensberg ride the pine the 2 previous games when he should have been used, the writing is on the wall. Its too bad, I think he could have contributed a little this year.
this just in, steve phillips doesnt believe the yankees will be a playoff contender. should i book my tickets for the playoffs now?
steve phillips is the worst baseball analyst ever. go back and ruin the mets, steve.
I didn’t read the blog for a few days, so if this has been talked about before I apologize. I wonder about the injury to Albaladejo.
Think about that game. Igawa gave up 4 hits in 6 pitches (and was subsequently removed for Alby). Now I think its pretty unlikely Alby was warming up before the inning started, so how in the world did he get ready in 6 pitches? How was he ready to enter the game throwing maximum effort in such a short period of time? Now I know Eiland wentout to talk to him after the 3rd hit, so that adds a few minutes, But that still seems awful quick. Then his elbow feels like he’s getting a needle pushed through it. Not good.
So who’s fault is it?
Girardi for rushing him in?
the bullpen coach for saying he was ready?
Alby for saying he was warm?
Either way its a shame. That guy was pitching well. I thinklosing him and Bruney is going to hurt alot more than people think. Wait until the bullpen blows a few games.
I’m glad the Yankees did the second MRI, because I’m sure if it was up to ARod he’d be in there this weekend. This way, he couldn’t just say he feels good enough to play. Can’t take the risk of re-injury.
Okay. Now that it’s a done deal regarding Kennedy – time to get on board and hope he has a great start, or at least a good one!!!
Mel — Scoops are great – but accuracy trumps a false “scoop” every time!
Well I guess I should have read the posts before making my comments about Kennedy….
That’s really interesting, I thought they would leave him down there for awhile.
I hope the Yanks give a pitcher from the minors a chance to pitch.
“Personally, I’d think you want him to show a little more down there. But you can’t run Kei Igawa out there.”
Pete, I agree with your thinking and it makes me believe that the Yankee organization is not ready to look at anyone else. Also, it is easier for them to let Kennedy try to work out his kinks when they have 4 pretty solid starters in terms of innings in. To have the bullpen potentially overextended once every five starts is a lot more doable than when we had Huges AND Kennedy killing them two times every week!
Steve Phillips thinks we won’t make the playoffs?
Save up money folks for playoff tickets…we are in
In a best-case scenario, the Yanks would leave Kennedy in Scranton for a few more starts, but with Igawa as the alternative, you have to go with IK now. Too bad. I think a longer stint in AAA would have helped IK more in the long-term.
Could someone ask Steve Phillips to say that the Yankees are the worst team in baseball? I’d certainly like to hear the upside of that. Or maybe he should talk about some of their slumpers…it’d work like a charm.
Miggs, the intelligent thing to do would have been to leave Kennedy down there. All indications were that the plan was to do jsut that. Unfortunately two things intervened with the effect of one seemingly nullifying the effect of the other: Rasner showed up looking like a major league pitcher, and Kei Igawa did not.
That gives the Yankees 4 solid and less worries about Kennedy imploding, if he should.
One thing is clear. They were not interested in looking at any of the others down below to find a solution. As long as Kennedy as part of their plans anyway, they probably felt they could afford a potential train wreck as long as it was only when a 5th pitcher was needed…
Game time.
Let’s go Yankees!
Feinsand reported that the Yanks usually trust the player to say “when” or if they’re healed enough to play. Unforunately, they found they couldn’t trust Arod’s judgment, so are relying more on the MRI than they normally would.
If getting sent down wasn’t the full wake-up call that Kennedy needed, watching them consider giving Igawa a second start rather than him might do the trick. He pitched well enough to win against the Rays last time so lets hope for the best on Thursday.
Too bad about Alex. Better an extra week rest than coming back and re-injuring it again. He must have a high pain tolerance if he is running and the quad is still strained.
he didnt just say they wouldnt make the PS, he said they wont even contend and that the rays and jays are better.
Can someone please explain to me why the Yankees are always screwed with the schedule? Boston couldn’t possibly have been given an easier schedule and we have to play all of the top teams without any days off, except for rain which doesn’t really count. Now we have to play Tampa when they’re hot and the Sawx & Jays will get them when they have cooled off.
I can’t believe how few people there are at the game …the stands look empty
Blah! Sox up 3-0. Come on Twinkies!
ARod still hurt. Kennedy will be back soon. And now, maybe a loss to the Rays. Overall a very, very bad day.
Nice start by Livan Hernandez for the Twinkies. He has held Boston to 3 runs so far through one third of an inning.
Wasn’t there someone on the blog who brought LH up as someone the Yanks should have considered?
Ken is a much play by play broadcaster then micheal in my opinion
ok rob, u make the schedule for next year and be sure to set up the yankees with the rays when they will be playing thier worst ball of the season.
Mama mia. Well let’s hope that the Twinkies stomp all over Chucky Doll Bucholz. I thought Livan was billed as a much improved product.
GO LIVAN!
give me singleton and murcer and send the rest of them home.
With the exception of interleague play, the Yankees and the Sox essentially play the same teams. The days that they get off are a different matter, but it’s a bit fruitless to argue the teams they play.
“Unforunately, they found they couldn’t trust Arod’s judgment, so are relying more on the MRI than they normally would.”
I think it might also have something to do with the $300 million invested in A-Quad. If this was Ensberg they would tell him to rub dirt on it and play.
Agree you cant throw Igawa out there EVER again. But is 8 innings enough to get your confidence up? Wasnt that the point of sending Kennedy down. If we need a starter give someone else a chance and let Kennedy get some more innings. It just seems inconsistent.
As crazy as the schedule has been, there really is no way to predict precisely how teams are going to perform several months ahead of time.
kennedy, u have a questions about his confidence? i think he said he was going to “make those guys look stupid” before his last start. if he had a confidence problem, he sure didnt have it that day.
Boy, Pettitte doesn’t like to waste time.
I’m actually happy that Rasner will be starting against the Rays. He’ll at least give us a chance. Let those kids get on base and it is all over. We don’t want someone with an ERA of 10 pitching against the Rays!
kennedy’s pitching against the rays, rasner is getting the mets.
great first inning by pettite, velocity looks up too, consistently hitting 91 on the gun in that inning, good to see
Kennedy – it IS inconsistent. I think we all agree on that front.
But to quote a very brilliant scholar, it is what it is.
nice efficient start by Pettite
JMO -
Oops. Well I guess I now know which games have the more cachet…
The Sox have played two more games than the Yankees (and one more road game). And they started the season with that Japan to Oakland to Toronto sojourn.
Both teams have had busy, and tough, opening schedules.
Nice Andy.
Brian:
I dont think any team in baseball has the right to complain about their schedule after what the Red Sox went through this season.
Sadly – IPK has been very consistent this year so far. (Consistently bad)
We need the IPK of last fall to resurface. Hopefully he has his mojo back and can get the job done.
i dont think it was so much the santana thing as much as it was a better idea to have ian pitch on the road. it could get ugly if he starts out badly in new york
I think the Mets game have more cachet and are seen as a lot more “important” in terms of bragging rights. I wasn’t thinking Santana. I was thinking Mets.
the mets are apparently moving santana back to pitch friday night, and thier rotation is weak, so you know what the mets think about the series.
Nice job by the Suxers to allow the Twinkies to get 2 runs already!
Looks like a good game.
Does these Rays know how NOT to steal bases? Geeze it seems as soon as they get on, they’re off and running!
Is anyone from Canada on here now? I am going to Toronto in July and want to visit Niagara before a night game.
#1 is that possible? Do I have enough time, and if anyone can point me in the direction of a good tour that would be great.
Pettitte allows more two out runs and rallies than anyone.
I guess these young Yanks down believe in laying out.
good sign.
back to work bats
and stop using my screename.
Wow.
Great play by Longoria.
I heard someone (Singleton? Kim Jones?) saying that the Rays had won their last 6 series and had swept three of them.
The thing I both love and hate about those kids is that they run like the wind. You almost figure that if someone gets on base with less than two out, at least one run is going to score!
Way to take that bunt off with the slowest runner at the planet batting.
Put the bunt down!
Can someone please pull up a stat of how many DP’s we have hit into? If we arent #1 in the MLB then we must be top 3.
Kennedy coming back up is the right move.
He needs to work it out here. Everyone calling for his head should look around that a lot of other better pitchers struggle and they need to learn to work it out.
We are getting ridiculous with the tiny margins we are giving our yankees, we are paranoid and reactionary and need to chill out. Ian and Phil have barely cleared 20 innings so far.
Look at some other “stellar performers” who are not on their game yet 6 weeks into the season
C.C. Sabathia 2-5 6.55
Nate Robertson 1-4 6.64
Jared Weaver 2-5 5.59
Bronson Arroyo 2-4 7.14
Justin Verlander 1-6 6.43
Gil Meche 2-5 6.31
Roy Oswalt 3-3 5.33
Mark Buerhle 1-4 5.31
Ted Lilly 3-4 5.24
A.J. Burnett 3-4 5.19
This team needs more speed. They’re not a slugging team and their not a speedy team. Get on first base and they stay there.
Where’s the bunt at with Molina up there?
welcome back alberto
Alright Gonzo
Pete please go out of the booth take one of the bells and smash it over the persons head!
go to mlb.com and vote for all your yankees to play in the all star game this year at yankee stadium
gonzalez should have never been sent down and he shows us why again
Tampa fans actually think they can like baseball because of where the Drays stand on the standings.
for real it sounds like this game is being played in japan
Is it really so hard to clap your hands together?
im afraid ARod may not be a allstar this year
if this is any indication of how the rays fans behave when they start to win a little i certainly wouldnt mind to see them revert back to their losing ways asap
“Ian and Phil have barely cleared 20 innings so far.”
Yeah, see that was the problem. They barely cleared 20 innings. As a result our bullpen had turned into starting pitchers…
By the way, all of the other pitchers you’ve mentioned have more than paid their major league dues. Not so with Kennedy and Hughes.
Apples and organges.
geO, i was thinking the same thing, but once he gets back he’ll be ok, nobody should really challenge him at third maybe miguel cabrera but he’s not off to a good start, so i think a rod will start despite the injury
omg is that old lady insane sticking her hand in that devil ray tank!
Happy Birthday Lawrence Peter Berra!
and many more…
Rays are harmless to humans. She won’t get hurt.
Black Dragon:
Cabrera isnt even playing 3rd anymore, so that wouldnt factor in. I could see Lowell and maybe, POSSIBLY Longoria or Crede.
Didn’t Steve Irvin died cause of one?
Matt Garza has thrown one breaking ball this entire game and it was to Damon on that 1-2 count. Hopefully this 2nd time through the lineup, the Yankees will finally get on the board.
GEO:
All Star Games have NEVER Been decided by stats .. the All Star Game is a straight up popularity contest.
Arod will be at the All Star Game!
Dr. Cox, thanks for reminding me i forgot he moved to first, my mistake.
iwamura = garbage version of suzuki. the stance and everything.
blackdragon
miguel cabrera is now at 1st base so i couldnt see him being voted in as the third basemen…
other than that no real threats to a-rod at third you are correct
PLENTY of good seats available at LaGuardia Stadium tonight!
Good afternoon/evening, folks. Just got in, so I’ve only been able to scan the comments. I wrote yesterday or the day before that I thought they should keep IPK down in AAA a little while longer. If the question is framed (as Pete frames is in his update) as either running Igawa out again or bringing IPK up too early, I’d vote for IPK. Not sure if that has to be the real choice, but the decision-makers must have their reasons.
Very curious about what murphydog means by this:
“In another way, however, it’s an interleague game with little or no impact on the AL East standings, so maybe it’s a safe enough opportunity to test him in an MLB setting instead of another AAA match.”
If the Yanks lose a game vs. the Mets and the Red Sox win the same night vs. the Braves that counts as much in the standings as if teh Red Sox beat the Yanks head-to-head. Right? All 162 games count the same in the standings unless I’ve missed some drastic rule change.
There are poisonous and non-poisonous rays.
and i think irwin died cuz he got stabbed by the end, not because it stung him or anything.
Man I missed so much drama today. Santana vs. Kennedy?? Whoever spread that rumor was cruel!
Like many have said, I want IPK to eventually come back but prefer if he had spent more time down in Scranton first. I hope Pettitte, Wang and Moose go 3-0 in the Rays series and if IPK loses, it could fly as under the radar as possible and if he wins, it’ll be icing on the cake.
I thought it was the spines on the tail that were the poisonous parts of most rays.
I do think Arod could still be an All*Star. based on popularity. He’ll have a month and a few weeks to put up some decent numbers and will be voted in. Whether it’s as a starter or reserve.
Irwin got stabbed with the barb. They deny he was riding the ray, but that’s the only logical explanation.
what he (nick) say….
i just cant believe ppl say that about interleague games. THIS IS NOT THE NFL, there is not league or division record tiebreaker, every game counts exactlty the same as every other, april 1st as much as sept 30th and the pirates as much as the bosox.
gota love a team who’s mascot in a tank out in center field get talked about more than their players.
mark i think your right he was stabbed in the chest… sad thing is they were filming it for one of his shows, somewhere out there the footage exists if it hasnt already been destroyed
Didn’t Irwin get stung by a sting ray? Aren’t the rays devilrays? Are they two different things, or is a devil ray a form of a sting ray? You can tell that the sea world isn’t really my forte.
Another two out rally from Andy Pettitte, what do you know
could see a double steal here. pettite is not good at stopping runners at 2B.
Yeah. Irwin died because the stingray’s barb pierced his heart
Upton and Crawford on the basepaths…
Do you think the Yankees have anyone with as much pure speed as these two?
come on Andy
good call JMO
Ugh, Andy. Carlos kills you.
Lol, I think Devil Rays was just a name for the “Rays.” I don’t think that there is an actual ray called Devil Ray.
i could see arod jeter and matsui getting voted in… cano too if he continues to heat up.
what would really be great is to see wang starting the game and joba and mo in the pen
Andy gets out of it!
this is the same andy pettitte he’s been for 12+ years. dont worry, he will come through, he always does. remember, he’s a notoroious slow-starter and he’s off to a very good start.
thank you andy. he should start going for double plays with one out to avoid the whole 2 out rally thing. lol
Whew! Nice way to get Pena.
idc i still call the Rays “Devil Rays”
will tito use mo as his closer or papelbon?
Mo has had the better year and senority. If he still has a better year at the Break than Papelbon or only slightly worse, he should get it out of ability and senority. It’s his house that they’ll be playing in, anyway.
Jeter must be averaging 2.1 pitches per at-bat.
The also call the Manta Ray a Devil Ray
(thank you google)
jennifer
I’ve made the drive from Toronto to the Niagara Falls area many times. It is less than an hour and a half drive. If you are trying to save time, stay on the Canadian side to see the falls so you don’t have to go through customs again.
Never did a tour so I don’t know anything about that.
**They
Good approach by Jeter there swinging at the first pitch and a high fastball at that
Tito will bring Mo in during the 4th inning and not take him out. :::shudder:::
“Do you think the Yankees have anyone with as much pure speed as these two?”
No, that’s why I said this team needs more speed. Other then Damon and Jeter who hardly steal a lot anymore, no one really can run.
This team is a tweener not necessarily a home-run team and not a speedy team.
They get on base and do nothing. It would be nice to be able to create runs without Arod or Posada in the lineup. but they can’t even do that.
Now we know what Jeter and Mr. T. used to talk about. Taking pitches.
I am staying in Toronto and plan to take a tour for the day and come back and go to a game. I won’t have a car, so i’d have to hook on with a tour.
jmo
def think hell go with mo. with the start hes had this yr, his longevity and being in his home park he’d have to let mo close it out.
remember how joe T pulled nomar after he took some groundballs from the first basemen so he could get applause from his hometown crowd in boston in 1999. classy move.
“”By the way, all of the other pitchers you’ve mentioned have more than paid their major league dues. Not so with Kennedy and Hughes”"
I have a question Trisha
just because they have past successes they are allowed to stink up the joint?
You don’t think their respective teams’ bullpens are taxed when they pitch poorly time after time?
What I’m saying is our guys were on an ultra short leash and weren’t given enough time to get straightened out.
How much better could Ian have pitched in AAA to prove he belongs up here in the trenches?
I mean everyone was ready to wheel out Moose over his starts in august. What if he wasn’t given a chance to work it out.
Lets keep the big picture in mind here. These guys need to develop and take their lumps and learn.
“Shortsightedness is what fools someone into thinking they are seeing apples and oranges, when in fact they are staring at a two apples”
good one nick in sf
Twinkies just tied it up 3-3
2 on…no outs
Was it a manta ray, a sting ray or a devil ray or an angelfish?
Clay’s in a little bit of trouble. 3 ER through 2IP and he’s got 2 men on, no outs.
ahh no a-rod vs the mets no big deal we got jeter matsui and bobby
oh nice i did not know that sox game was on espn. clay just walked the bases loaded now no outs
Make that Bases loaded no outs for Clay
Baserunner! C’mon Big G, do your thing.
delmon young struck out w/ the bases loaded in the 1st and now laptop has bases loaded and nobody out!
lets all root for the trifecta tonight…
YANKS WIN!
SUX LOSE!
CELTICS LOSE!
Ed Whitson -
Bearing in mind that both Hughes and Kennedy were rushed to the majors, they are in no way to be compared to pitchers who have earned their stripes. You bet those other pitchers have a lot longer leash – and so they should.
With no “i” in team, I’m for Kennedy and Hughes taxing the bullpens in the minors. I’ve lived through too many seasons where the Yankees get bitten in the end because their bullpen has pitched the equivalent of starting pitchers!
GO TWINKIES!!!!!
c’mon Giambi
4-3 Twins. One out.
would that have been a yankee stadium hr?
cmon delmon
, this could be a real win/win as delmon is playing the bosox and on both my fantasy teams!
Mantas aren’t poisonous to humans, are they? I thought they only had poison to help to paralyze their prey?
someone tell phillips to shut his mouth.
it certainly had the line drive hr to right field look
twinkies up 4-3
that’s over with
Oh well. At least the Twins took the lead.
COME ONE LIVAN!!!
ok ill take the ribbie. but he’s left 5 on already.
lets go New York Cavs of Cleveland!
Bucholtz slithered out of that like a laptop thief sneaking out of CompUSA. Sneaky, Clay, sneaky.
Giambi
what a bullet by abreu to jeter on that ball!
where did delmon get caught stealing laptops from?
“Ian and Phil have barely cleared 20 innings so far.â€
“Yeah, see that was the problem. They barely cleared 20 innings. As a result our bullpen had turned into starting pitchers…”
Trisha, that was a big problem because neither guy was giving length. Rasner has stabilized the rotation. With a 13 man bullpen, the Yanks can afford to carry Kennedy and if he hits some bumps, the 8 man bullpen can handle it. Kennedy has had some time to clear his head, but he needs to learn to pitch at the big league level. There will be bumps. But he won’t be able to make those learning adjustments in AAA. I for one am so glad the Yankees made this decision and look forward to watching Kennedy on Thursday.
Dang it
my scoreboard is still showing a 3-3 tie, is that correct?
Not Delmon. Clay Chucky Doll Bucholz.
JMO -
4-3.
wait clay got caught stealing laptops?
wait clay got caught stealing laptops?
Back when he was in high school, yes, he was. He was arrested for it.
“wait clay got caught stealing laptops?”
yup!
Let’s go Cavs!!
gameday’s finally updated
strange my stat tracker has it 3-3 in the 4th.
Just got home and was reading through the blog. Glad to Igawasukason is out and PK is back. Send Iggyto extended ST to throw BP. Go Gonzo! By the way, raymagnetic â„¢ in response to your Tabata on fire after his clear your head suspension- have you seen Tabata lately? He is batting a whopping .220? 3 for 15 his last 4 games. I’d say that’s scorching, huh
Tampa is showing signs of being a fine ballclub…..They’re a factor in the AL……Where’s all the baseball people ?????
damn back in high school… thats when he was still a yankees fan lol
Yankeejosh -
While I am not happy the Yankees brought Kennedy back up, I realize that they feel that is the best way to go under the circumstances. I also realize thoroughly and have already posted several times to that effect, that with four solid starters the Yankees can afford to have one person potentially stink out the joint and burn the pen. And since they have made a commitment to having Kennedy in the rotation, it makes sense under the circumstances, to let him work out his issues in the majors since his soul twin, Hughes, is no longer there wreaking havoc.
That new Rays stadium will be filled with Yankee and Sox fans.
Its amazing how bad of a player Jeter has become… What good are intangibles if you are the worst fielding player at your position in the league and can’t hit? Not being a jerk, but can anyone OBJECTIVELY tell me that he isnt one of the worst starting SS in the AL?
On another note- not only is this yankees team bad but even worse, they are BORING. Thats the worst part…
bernie, paul, & tino,
Are you stuck in the 90’s? lol.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clay_Buchholz
ben wallace is such a bum
This is pathetic. Andy wont ’slither’ out of this mess because he wont get cheap calls for the ump in his favor, rather, he’ll be the one that gets cheated
how in the heck did he steal 3rd on a freaking walk
nice stadium design but i am getting so freakin sick of baseball teams begging for public money for stadiums. if they’re profitable, let the teams build them, if they’re not then dont build them. We’re on the hook for 2 of them here in Pa. and even though they are 2 of the best parks in baseball, its rediculous to spend public money on baseball stadiums.
Kennedy is the best option both short-term and long-term for the team. It makes sense, and at this point, let him work his problems at the ML level. He’s proven enough in the minors.
get out of this Andy
Its amazing how bad of a player Jeter has become… What good are intangibles if you are the worst fielding player at your position in the league and can’t hit? Not being a jerk, but can anyone OBJECTIVELY tell me that he isnt one of the worst starting SS in the AL?
And you’d rather have Lugo as the starting SS? I’ll take Jeter’s not-as-great defense and keep his bat in the lineup.
That last possession says it all about the Cavs. Lebron stands behind the 3point line not even moving and not even involved in the play. Delonte and the big Z are the only ones who touch the ball.
Wow, these guys are much improved since we last saw them.
i’m sorry, but you cant let jason bartlett do that to you.
if i ever see the tampa bay heckler, he’s getting a beer dumped on him.
how bout THAT layup for lebron!
LOL no slithering for andy like Clay ‘i get my hole tongued by Peter Gammons’ Bucholz.
Am I the only one who notices Pettitte seems to run out of gas 4th/5th innings? It happened in Cleveland and Detroit.
I don’t know maybe it’s just a bad inning for him.
“Tampa is showing signs of being a fine ballclub…..They’re a factor in the AL……”
They actually started showing signs of that several seasons ago when they’re major deficiency was that they would blow leads continually. But they’ve been an offensive force for a while. If you’ve paid attention to their starting pitching over the last several seasons, they have had some really good starters. The problem again was with their relief, which had been dreadful. And then both Danys Baez and Al Reyes had trouble closing out games against everyone but the Yankees!
Eek
bigpopp, are we talking about the same jeter who hit .322 and scored 102 runs last season? can’t hit?
Of course I would take Jeter over Lugo, dont be silly. I said “one of the worst starting SS”. And FWIW, Lugo wont be a starting SS much longer
I’m liking Molina and Pettite together less and less.
andy’s cutter is cutting tonight.
man that fouled off breakin ball shows how out of gas pettitte is.
isnt
and there it is.
hes not missing many bats tonight.
Oy vey
Are the Rays this good, or is Andy just having a bad day?
wow are we really gona hafta pull pettitte after 3.1? so much for 4 solid starters givin the bullpen a break for kennedy.
please tell me someone is warming up
Andy looks good tonight
Jeter can hit, but lets be honest here- the team is decimated by injuries and it would be nice to see him pick up SOME of the slack. Look at his last AB: swing at the 1st pitch and pop-out to 1B. I dont have the stats to back it up but I cannot remember him hitting into more DP than he has this season. Just being honest here…
Destiny -
The Rays are that good. They won their last 6 series, 3 with sweeps. Their starting pitching is pretty stellar, their kids can hit, and they run like the wind.
In other words, they’re like the Yankees used to be.
Giambi gets partial credit for not throwing that ball into the Gulf of Mexico.
zach,
from mlb.com’s preview:
“His only blemish was a two-run homer to Jhonny Peralta on a sinker that did not cut quite enough, a problem Pettitte continues to fight in his bullpen sessions. ”
I feel so awful for Andy. He gets the least run support of all the pitchers. Even Igawa, who doesn’t deserve it, gets some.
they are all over his fastball but is velocity is good. could it be either he or jose are tipping?
Yeah. I wouldn’t exactly want a Bobby Crosby as my starting SS either. Not a great fielder and doesn’t do anything with a bat. Or Bentancourt. Or Inglett. Or Cintron/Hernandez platoon. And other shortstops, obviously. So Jeter really isn’t the worst starting shortstop. A bad fielder? Yes, he has poor range…but he’s certainly not the worst one out there.
pettittes stuff is lookin like igawas tonite.
Revenue sharing must end. The Rays no longer need baseball welfare.
C’mon Andy, dig deep. On the hitting side, when are the Yanks going to take pitches again? They swing at far too many 1rst or 2nd and do nothing with them. They downright suck when they do that.
Zach- Are you serious?
This is where my patience for Girardi wears thin, clearly these guys are hitting him and he can’t get them out without giving up runs or hits, I think anyone in their right mind would have pulled him at this point.
Poor Andy, he’ll be beating himself up in the post game interview for sure.
JMO, while Andy has been accused of tipping many times during his career, these Rays just swept the Angels.
They are playing with nothing but confidence.
check out Molina’s OBP???Wow that is pathetic, they are a slow team..
Damon needs to get some new bats.. he has a bat shatter per night it is out of control.
they are running on the slow yankees at will.. Garza throws 1 pitch at no more then 94 and he is dominating so far..another bad effort by the Yanks…
Andy is making Steve Phillips sound smart…. that was a brutal inning
Thankfully that is over with.
Can we come back? Come on Yankees. Get something going…
ok, no biggie, we are going to score at least 5 tonight. get 2 back here.
Nothing matters until the Yankees start putting together some winning streaks. This win/lose/win/lose pattern sucks, and makes them look every bit as mediocre as their record.
Jeter can hit, but lets be honest here- the team is decimated by injuries and it would be nice to see him pick up SOME of the slack. Look at his last AB: swing at the 1st pitch and pop-out to 1B. I dont have the stats to back it up but I cannot remember him hitting into more DP than he has this season. Just being honest here…
It would be nice for him to pick up some of the slack, yes. Is that going to happen? Well, no, his defense is not going to improve overnight. He can still make good plays, but he definitely doesn’t have the range that he needs. As for his hitting…he’s a perennial .300+ hitter, which is far better than many SS in the game.
Steph- good points. Its just incredibly frustrating how Jeter gets a pass. The team needs him to step it up and he is incapable.
they are not pulling Pettitte in the 4th inning down by 4 runs that is just stupid…
the purpose would be? put in Britton, and others for 5 innings, no thanks..
Pettitte needs to go at least 5…man if the bloggers were the managers they would use 5 pitchers every game and mariano would have 60+ appearances and his arm would fall off.
UPDATE, 8:30 p.m.: Teams always look bad when they’re losing. But as you watch the Yankees play the Rays, you can’t help but be struck by how athletic and energetic Tampa Bay looks when compared to the Yankees
Pete, better be careful, you are saying they are not trying. The blog burn you for that.
Good to see the Yankee .500’s performing at such a high level.
this lineup will NOT string together hits like the rays just did…
our only hope tonight is to chip away…
hopefully get a few on, and hope (and pray) for the longball.
Trisha,
I agree that the Rays are looking sharp…but I wonder how long it will last…
As for running like the wind-I don’t know if the Yankees ever ran like that…
garza tips his fastball. (squeezes the life out his glove).
Maybe Joe can start the runners are try to create something this inning
pettitte hasnt thrown a clunker all season and he would have a much better record if he got any support. this time its the hitters who need to bail andy out. anyone who is down on pettitte flat-out doesnt know baseball.
Wow, Livan Hernandez has such a nice smooth delivery. I love watching pitchers who don’t seem to labor but get the job done.
The Rays have improved a lot, but familiarity (19 times a season) breeding contempt has something to do with it too.
Id rather have a SS who hit 265 and could actually get to a ball that isnt hit directly at him, but thats just me.
Steph- good points. Its just incredibly frustrating how Jeter gets a pass. The team needs him to step it up and he is incapable.
Jeter usually gets a pass because he’s the golden boy: a lifer Yankee. Some people won’t point out his flaws simply because of that. I know he’s not a great fielder now; some of his throws to first this year have been unbelievably bad. I just wouldn’t say that he’s one of the worst starting shortstops when you put his bat into the equation. He can still make nice plays and everything, but he’s not going to improve his range at this age.
Tonight is the night we stage a comeback!
We haven’t had one of those yet, so it’s about time…
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
Is Singleton contractually obliged to mention batters ’stuck on the interstates’ because Kay isn’t in the booth?
The yanks are losing to the rays because the rays have a better team… do people not see that?
Dynasty, they probably never ran quite like that but there was a time, maybe even back to the Knoblauch era, when they had a ton of stolen bases. And Jeter used to be one of their top stealers, if I remember correctly.
Not sure what I have missed but I can’t believe they are geting 3 hit by Matt Garza.
It is now one month later from when I was blasted for saying this offense sucked and they were not a fundamentally good hitting team. I was told, give them time, the offense will heat up. Eliminate Jeter, Matsui, Cabrera and you have a AA team.
Odds before Kevin Long is gone?
What is this, let’s scapegoat Jeter night? lol
c’mon
Let’s get something going
Steph-
the only nice plays jeter is capable of making in the field are on flares to shallow center
“looks like Andy is Scranton bound!”
whaat?! no way
“Its amazing how bad of a player Jeter has become… What good are intangibles if you are the worst fielding player at your position in the league and can’t hit? Not being a jerk, but can anyone OBJECTIVELY tell me that he isnt one of the worst starting SS in the AL?”
Derek Jeter has not been a bad defensive shortstop at all this year.
He has a 0.829 zone rating. That’s the sixth highest zone rating for any shortstop in the AL.
Last year Jeter was horrendous defensively – that was probably related to his knee which was likely bothering him much more than he let on, cutting off his range.
He’s been a better than average defensive SS.
Jeter has a .739 OPS so far this year. That’s considerably lower than his career numbers. But that’s also the second highest OPS of any shortstop in the AL. He got off to a very slow start with the bat but has picked it up with the bat over the past couple of weeks. He’ll have his usual .800+ OPS by the end of the year.
So by objective measures – zone rating and OPS – not only has Jeter not been one of the “worst starting shortstops in the AL” he has been one of the 2-3 best starting shortstops in the AL.
That’s based on objective measures of his offensive and defensive performance to date this season.
With the team in the funk that they have been, with the lack of hitting and, when they do get runners in scoring position, clutch hits, I’ll take Jeter’s bat over his defense.
Chad Moeller grab a bat and get in the game
Once again…this is not Kevin Long’s fault.
A lot of teams are better then the Yankees right now. I think it’s time to put on a movie.
“The yanks are losing to the rays because the rays have a better team… do people not see that?”
It appeals to my reason that the Rays have been playing MUCH better baseball, and consistently.
double play..boo!
WOOT MOLINA
KING DOUBLE PLAY HITTER
YAY!!
I just got home and turned on the radio…5 runs, 8 hits for the Rays in 4 innings.
Wow…did they let Kei Igawa pitch tonight instead of Pettite?
4 innings to go…4 chances to score runs…just need the pitching to hold their ground
can’t watch the game, but I looked at the score. yikes. surely they’ll come back and win it!
What??! I went to answer the phone and came back to a 5-0????
How’s Andy doing? Is he walking people or giving up lots of hits? what happened??
“The yanks are losing to the rays because the rays have a better team… do people not see that?”
i’m sorry…but the rays ARE NOT a better team. they are vastly improved…but not better.
and yes, i do understand they are ahead of us in the standings and winning tonights game.
we’ll see where they are after the ASB.
Welcome to the team we would’ve had if A-Rod had indeed walked away. This lineup isn’t going to get us anywhere. We could use some real pitching, too.
The Rays do appear to have the better team right now. They get hits, and they get pitching. We get one or the other. Tonight, neither.
i heard all spring how the indians were the ‘model franchise’ (now playing in front of about 30K empty seats per night) and now everybody wants to be the devil rays? give me a break!
Also, why doesnt Kevin Long ever take any heat? I think Mattingly’s bat-sh%$& crazy alcohlic wife would be a better choice at this point.
Molina is on fire.. they have about 4 terrible hitters in the lineup and almost no power..jeter always gets a pass the guy has 1c HR, see’s the least amount of pitches per AB in baseball and has no range….But he is the captain and a nice guy so give him the pass.
Damon is doing OK but really he is only hitting in the 280’s, giambi, cano, and molina are less then 200 hitters..this offense stinks.. if the offense was decent the score tonight is 5 to 3 and the yanks are in the game…..
there offense has basically stunk all yr. with arod and without him….
Hold em here Britton
trisha, they are playing much better baseball. But overall, they are just a better team. Yankee.500’s just don’t have it in them.
The worst part of this is there’s a chance we see Igawa out of the pen… hold me, i’m scared!!
laptops just gave up a two run double to craig monroe.
i wonder what boston did to piss monroe off?
Zach-
By the ASB the Rays will still have a better record
Great point pete, wasn’t Joe Girardi supposed to motivate?
Look, it’s Joba!
(If you watched the Sat game on Fox you’ll know what I’m talking about:-)
oh boy.
(i love this team, i love this team, i LOVE this team)
i know the yanks have 2 big guys out of the line up but my god they suck
laptops getting pulled.
bostons young stud is getting lit up too…and he’s not even injured.
You can do all the jawboning about this and that, and you can try to analyze this and that. But if you fail to see the Rays for the team they are you are going to be sitting at the end of every game beating your head against the floor and asking why why why!
The Rays are playing MUCH better ball than the Yankees. It’s a pretty simple formula kids. I’m definitely talking the here and now. I don’t particularly care to look to the ASB. It is what it is. They are playing top notch ball. Now.
The yankees need some coffee or maybe a red bull. Anything.
Please wake up
big popp, so what do they get for being ahead by the asb? an ‘atta boy’ from the mgr? i could give a crap who’s ahead by the asb. it s the freakin Rays, peole! stop this mass hysteria its the freaking RAYS!
and the bosox are losing!
I know it looks like I am hating on the yanks big time but not only are they bad, they are incredibly boring.
good lord, this just sucks
6-0 now. ugh
Who can take someone like Trisha seriously when all she does is defend scrubs like Igawa?
Twinkies 7-3.
Tired of having to get my jollies from Sux losses…
Oh well.
Theres a really good reason why Britton is always on the Scranton shuttle.
He stinks.
ok – use the old joe torre trick – focus on cutting the lead in half (and tell Molina just to swing through the pitch, he’s exceeded his dp quota for the month)
JMO-
The yanks simply arent that good, so there isnt much they can do. Believe it or not, I am a life-long yanks fan (I am 35 yrs old) but this team was set up to fail from day 1. Cashman has been absolutely awful…
are we serious? Igawa?
“Look, it’s Joba!”
Joba…Chris Britton… same thing.
Igawa! Igawa!
Ahhhhhhhhhh! Igawa!
Perhaps this is why Britton hasn’t been asked to pitch here?
Oh my …did u all just hear that little tidbit…yikes
Kei is warming up
Igawa? blah
Why is Chris “I wear big britches” Britton still here? What do they se in him? He needs to be on the Igawa “I’m Outta Here” sguttle. Bring up someone else….PLEASE.
Jennifer: I’m from Toronto and yes you can go to Niagara Falls. It’s approx an hour and a half drive and well worth it if you’ve never been.
Steph: I absolutely disagree that Jeter gets a pass. If everyone was playing at Jeter’s level we’d be looking down on the Red Sox. Jeter seems to take flack every few games for a difference reason. He should have done this. He should have done that. Whenever A-Rod’s name is mentioned you can bet a Jeter comparison is soon to follow. Jeter has proven himself to the Yankees and their fans and continues to do that game in and game out. He plays his heart out every game and remains respectful and professional sans prima donna attitude or bonehead comments. I don’t get why it never seems enough for him.
Igawa? I might start crying
Let’s face facts this year. This is a solid 84 win team. Which might be good enough for the WC cos the AL is down. Our starting pitching is terrible and we got a national league lineup. Bad combo.
it is really too bad because with our lights out bullpen.
Cashman is a terrible GM. How has he improved this team? What starting pitcher did he get this off season to improve the rotation? Santana? Haren? Bedard?
Nah. He gets NO ONE.
runs
we need lots of them.
Big deal…Andy had a bad game. Molina is a backup catcher that we can easily make up for his weak bat with the other 8 spots….I amend my earlier prediction…Yankees come back to win a shocker 7-6 tonight…..THE YANKEES WIN !
“A lot of teams are better then the Yankees right now. I think it’s time to put on a movie.”
there’s some good entertainment on if you watch the red sox game. the twins are now ahead 7-3.
…and trisha is right , it is enjoyable watching that nice smooth delivery of livian hernandez that was available to cashman for only 5 million for one year this past winter, and one that is good for 200 innings every year.
not that the yankees could have used a fourth or fifth starter. when you’re as loaded as they are, those old guys are just a waste of money. there’s plenty of guys at triple a who could do the same 5-1 record.
The yankees need some coffee or maybe a red bull. Anything.
Please wake up
It will never happen but most of the veterans need to have their $12 mill+ paychecks pulled and they need to be benched. They are so lifeless and just go through the motions. No effort what so ever.
Looks like we went from one non motivating manager to another who just gripes at the media.
Just disgusting brand of baseball by the Yankee.500’s
I feel icky when Steve Philips talks about Bucholtz’s package.
It isn’t our year. Sad but true. I’ve seen nothing from this team thru 40 games.
and MINNY is stomping the BoSux !….NICE !
the bottom of the barrel is posting tonight…
the are being blooped to death tonight because Tampa can run.
Newsflash Tampa will not win more games then the Yanks anyone who thinks differently has been watching baseball for 1 yr and has been a Yankee fan since 95.
Britton is much better then the infamous Igawa, speed is killing the Yanks tonight…
Ted – I defend scrubs like you posting here so count your blessings. And if all you’ve gotten out of my perspicacious (look it up) posting is the defense of Igawa, I would say that you are definitely one of the forum whiners since I’ve had very good and crisp baseball discussions with some of the better minds here. You were probably crying up a storm when I started the movement to see that Kyle Farnsworth had reinvented himself?
And yes, I will defend any player who has talent even if he is not using it well. I’ve defended both Hughes and Kennedy in terms of their future with the team and neither has done much up here this season.
Not a loss goes by that Pepper Brooks cant mention someones high salary. It’s like a very bad record that hurts the ears every single time.
Hey Pep,
Just root for the Rays. They fit your “hungry” theme.
da gonzonator comes through!
Don Vito, if the Yankees come back to win tonight it will be the first time in MLB history that a team scored 7 runs without hitting the ball out of the infield. If we are lucky, one of them will hit a solid 2 hopper that will back a fielder up to the edge of the grass.
Ok. Lets use this speed now. Come On johnny.
This is what I’m trying to tell myself right now:
They have a tank of sting rays in their stadium. We have Ruth, Mantle and Dimaggio. So we still win!
never mind.
trisha,
Thanks for that. If you think Igawa has talent than you should really stop smoking crack.
No one can take you seriously with your defense of him. Sorry pal.
C’mon Captain…Step up here!
this game WILL get tied up with a combination of two 3 run homeruns.
lock it up!
ps…can gonzalez NOT get sent down to AAA anymore.
pps. can damon start using a bat with a thicker handle. everyone is jamming him inside and he cant get around on it anymore.
Someone defends Kei Igawa???
That’s a joke right? Even his mother doesn’t watch his games.
It just seems to me that the Yanks look like a soft club right now….
LMAO @
“I feel icky when Steve Philips talks about Bucholtz’s package.”
metrosexual much?
alberto gonzalez > wilson b.
Any way you can get ‘em…Let’s Go Yanks!
ok, maybe that bit of luck will get something started
wait a sec…
whats this….i cant recognize it…
could it be a rally? i think i saw one of those on national geographic before.
“pps. can damon start using a bat with a thicker handle. everyone is jamming him inside and he cant get around on it anymore.”
Thankfully we got scouts sitting in their armchairs at home that notice these things. Thank GOD! Get those new bats to Damon. STAT
Ted –
I KNOW Igawa has talent.
Nice job Jete – no wonder the skip was looking for that kind of thunder in the cleanup slot!
Yes! complete game shutout.
TBR = 2008 World Champs!
Would it kill the Yankees to actually comeback in a game this year?
trisha – Uh you should know better than to argue with me! (whatever in hell that means…)
May 12th, 2008 at 8:35 pm
Destiny -
“The Rays are that good. They won their last 6 series, 3 with sweeps. Their starting pitching is pretty stellar, their kids can hit, and they run like the wind.”
Trisha, I grant you that the Rays are an improved team but they have not won their last 6 series. They were swept by the Red Sox in a 3 game series the first weekend of May.
If the Yanks can only get infield hits then please salute Jeter for playing to the team’s strengths. He has baseball smarts.
Trish – Igawa has talent as a BP pitcher.
*sick of hearing about the Rays*, lol
“It just seems to me that the Yanks look like a soft club right now….”
Yep.
A dramatic comeback in the works!
Not that it matters because this team stinks but I really think that they need to split the catching evenly between Moeller and Molina. Molina’s hitting has been dreadful and Girardi is going to kill him by playing him behind the plate everyday. You can’t play a backup catcher behind the plate everyday and think that it is not going to affect him. Moeller has been decent just let him play before Molina is totally useless.
Let’s go, BOBBY !!!
ray,
Why would a Sox fan be posting here? This is a Yankee board. Dont you have any Sox boards? Do you know they are playing tonight right? I’d say get a life but that ship may have already sailed for you dude.
this is where we make our move !!!
If the Attorney General keeps producing with the bat and showing he belongs to be up here…it will be interesting to see where he plays.
A-Rod is entrenched at 3B. Jeter is the SS for the forseeable future…and Cano will be the 2B. So where does that leave the AG? As a utility IF?
It will be interesting to see where he fits in.
Ted you didnt know that Trisha is Kei’s Momma? Where have you been?
TKinDC,
I’m not sure if get your usage of ‘metrosexual’ but if it helps clear things up, I used shampoo and no conditioner this morning.
GIDP, UGH
this is awful – 3 dps in 5 innings?
Its a beautiful thing when this team wins.
But my god, how awful do they look when they lose???
ANOTHER DP!?!?
3 GIDP to end the inning tonight
It could also be the the Yankees are just playing terribly bad baseball and making others look good. 3 DP’s.. ack.
what kind of AB was THAT ?….he takes ALL the sweet pitches and only swings at the junk…and into an inning ending DP at that ???….that is OK….3 more innings to come back on these RABBITS !!!
we stink so much tonight I actually went to http://www.dandy-house.co.jp which is advertising behind home plate and the web site isn’t even in engrish. feh
“Thankfully we got scouts sitting in their armchairs at home that notice these things. Thank GOD! Get those new bats to Damon. STAT”
rrriiiiight…because the yankees scouts are so very competent these days.
maybe you should suggest another japanese “all-star” pitcher the yankees should sign. i’m sure they would all agree with you.
omg another dp?
sigh
Let’s go Cavs
I like Pettitte but he ain’t a #2 guy anymore.He is a #3 guy.I thought he could at least go 7 innings.Wang and Pettitte can’t afford to go 3 innings.
People talk about sometimes of the crappy defense on this team.But if these staters can actually get strikeouts they woudn’t get pulled after 3 innings.
you know what i’m done watching the yankees until maybe when they put joba in the pitching line-up. they are painfully unclutch, uninspired, and unexthusiastic. it is painful to watch this team. thakns y’all for all the good times.
What happens first: Manny winning a GG or Kei winning a CY?? Any guesses…
strikes please
and that’s the last time they ever heard from bill brasky.
I will get trolled here but..Gonzalez belongs at SS, when Jeter realizes that it is time to move to 1st.
Rays win 12-0.
Sweep!
the sj44 negative brigade is out in force tonight
Just what we need another 1rst baseman.
quick…if anyone is at the game…run over and tackle Igawa so that he can’t ever pitch again….( no…just kidding….well….not really ) JOKE !! I am a JOKER !
Nick
May 12th, 2008 at 9:06 pm
ray,
“Why would a Sox fan be posting here? This is a Yankee board. Dont you have any Sox boards? Do you know they are playing tonight right? I’d say get a life but that ship may have already sailed for you dude.”
Just a question for you Nick. Why do you constantly post the Red Sox score then?
Yeah and I was Kyle’s momma and I was Robby’s momma and I was Damon’s momma and I was Giambi’s momma and I was everyone’s momma that knee jerkers on this forum wanted to abandon.
But I’ll tell you what gets tiresome. Having to play momma to the little boys on this forum who cry whenever anything goes wrong., Get it Ted and YES? Grow a backbone and stop criticizing people whose shoes you couldn’t begin to shine – and that would mean the WORST of the pinstripers!
chris britton has ashy elbows. he needs to fix that.
Mike, please provide from SJ44 quotes, he’s been missed in here.
“What happens first: Manny winning a GG or Kei winning a CY?? Any guesses…
manny winning a GG.
Lets go Cavs.
that was really persnickypaceous!!
so….
I had thai food for dinner.
Pad See Ew with chicken. Pretty good!
(this game is making me mad, time to change topics)
Nick (not in SF) should not be confused with me, Nick in SF.
FYI
pat m-
the yankees don’t seem to have much of an edge to them.
i’m enjoying watching the twins a lot more than watching the yankees right now.
they’re up 7-3 and have a runner on 3rd – 2 out.
Score for Cavs?
Thats funny Mike. You do realize you are atributing actions to someone that it is on vacation, don’t you?
Obsess much?
Time to score 7 runs.
S.A.,
You sure you didnt have the Cream of Sum Yung Gye?
Ha!
41-39 Cavs.
cliff lee the best pitcher in baseball. just simply amazing….
Cavs 41, Celtics 39
stupid question but there is three people here who cant seem to remember…
If there is a runner on first and the batter hits a foul ball, the fielder goes after it, misses the ball…can the runner on first legally try to steal second on that or is the ball dead and the runner can’t advance….
stupid, i know but you know how it is, sometimes you can’t remember all the rules lol.
Cavs up 41-37 2:50 left in half
How you liking it now, 200 million $ team of bums?
Dr. Cox, thanks.
I was hoping that Cavs were running away with it!
” Igawa has talent as a BP pitcher.”
they’d fire him. bp pitchers have to throw about 98% strikes or they get rid of them.
Well, this Mets/Nationals game is kinda comical
We are missing our two best hitters!
Ugly performance by Pettitte. This team just can’t get over the hump this year. Very inconsistent ball club at this point. Hope they don’t get swept by the Rays.
Trisha:
Went to undergrad in Ohio so I have a soft spot for Cleveland teams.
There you go, Jason we’ll take it anyway we can right now.
OFFENSE?! yeah i know, easier said than done, but come on.
but yeah the Mets game is a million times worst.
if they have a weak bullpen they need to work this kid and get him out. again easier said than done.
This game is not over, they still have to get through the heart of our order — you know, the part with Alberto Gonzalez.
Cliff Lee is .68 ERA, you kidding me? I wish we had half of the Indians staff LOL
Sheesh, they can’t get a break. *sigh*
TBR – why do you have to behave like a classless piece of crap? Have you seen a lot of us giving the Rays their props?
FWIW, I have been giving the Rays their props for many seasons now because I take the time to really watch other teams to see what they are about and don’t relegate them to their W-L record.
It’s one thing to feel good for your team, quite another to play the fool on another team’s forum.
Wow…we’re really seeing how important speed is…defense and offense…
I think speed is underated, don’t you?
Dr. Cox…where? I’m at Bowling Green State U right now
HBP is the start of our rally. 3 runs in the 7th, 2 in the 8th, 2 in the 9th….7-6 Yankees !
( that’s the fantasy world that I am in right now )
…..oh, and Trish, if you think Igawa has a shot at ever actually making any real contribution to ANY NYY team, we need to send the cops over to your house for a well check…..like NOW !
heheh
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Dr. Cox, I grew up a Yankee fan in the heart of Red Sux nation, so any team playing a boston team is a team of mine!
dammit,,,they are pitching around Cano to get to Molina….those BASTAGES !!!…
What is this going to be shut out #4 for the year? How exciting…Yanks got yesterday off but they took 2 days hopefully the bats arrive in Tampa from Detroit tomorrow.
Mark,
graduated from OU last year. Ive been to almost every major school in the state, including BGSU and I have to say that OU is by far the most beautiful and the most fun. This may sound biased, but its true.
Ive had lots of good times at BG though.
However this at-bat ends, Cano is making the best of it. Better than a couple of weeks ago.
“Jason Giambi will be on the move” — how can they tell?
Toronto 29 scoreless innings
A Rays troll? Really?
Now I’ve seen everything.
Well, Robbie made him work.
I think the Triple Play is the pitchers bestest friend.
Yankees score 4 in the 8th and 3 in the 9th…and we’ll be JUST FINE ! ( pass me the bottle already, these shot glasses are just slowin’ me down… )
“Teams always look bad when they’re losing. But as you watch the Yankees play the Rays, you can’t help but be struck by how athletic and energetic Tampa Bay looks when compared to the Yankees.
That’s the case for most teams against Tampa Bay lately. The Rays have won 13 of their last 18 and nine straight at home.”
Pete is right on the money. The Rays are a force. The Yankees are far off their stride.
Man even Eva Longoria get a hit off the Yanks. They haven’t been this bad since the mid 80’s.
Liked the comment on speed. Apparently speed does help rather than fat overaged hacks who bleed your coffers dry.
Memo to Hammering Hank and Cashman….watch the Rays and what the Red Sox are doing…might find a winneing formula.
Yankees didnt get over .500 for good till after the all-star break last year. There is still plenty of time left.
Nick in SF
May 12th, 2008 at 9:27 pm
“Jason Giambi will be on the move†— how can they tell?
now THAT if funny!!!!!
Rocco, I agree. By then we will hopefully be back to full speed and may even have our rotation issues worked out. But now there is no way to pretend that our Yankees are a barrel of fun to watch! They REALLY lack energy right now.
This is ridiculous…the whole team runs…
you know what is worse – that smug manager of theirs…just do not like him at all
just an ugly game
Hold ‘em here, Jose, I don’t think the Yanks can come back from 7-0.
Dynasty, that’s exactly the point, and that’s what so scary about them getting on base. You almost expect that they will come home.
We’re a little lucky that Wang gets Jackson to pitch against because Jackson can be wild. If we got Shields, Sonnanstine, or even Kazmir, and the Rays got a run or two, that could be the game.
lifeless Yankee.500’s.
I would like to see more AAA players putting out an effort and losing than watch this. At least my $9 beer is being put to good use.
It’s a darn shame. Yanks are hitting line drives and getting nothing. The Rays are bloopin’ all over the place, and well, you see what they have. When you’re going well, everything goes well; when you’re going poorly, nothing breaks your way.
ARod’s wearing out another teammate on the bench. I’m sure his teammates can’t wait for him to get back in the lineup – for more than the obvious reason!
The Rays may be this good, but there’s no way I believe the Yankees will remain this bad. The funny thing is that their record last season at this time, and their position in the division with regard to games back, was worse, and yet this year feels worse.
morgan looked less than excited to be listening to a-rod
Even that play – the guy doesn’t hit it well, not even hard enough for a DP and a run scores. The Rays are just clicking right now.
This is not fun to watch.
No it is absolutely not.
I agree with you Angel.
so we hit line drives right at people and they hit soft bloops that all fall in ?…it AINT RIGHT !…now if we can just score….uh,,,,, 10 runs….. and the number of runs that the Devil Dogs score is….uh,,,, 9 or less…we still win…right ???…Tarbender, set us up….GO SPANKEES !!!!
Will the Yankees attempt the mother of all rallies?
My rally cap is on…don’t know what good it will do.
Oh, look, Pepper Brooks is here. The Yankees must be losing.
how about just one run…just dont get shut out
The more I watch this team I just can’t believe that this is what a $200 million payroll buys…..too many old useless one dimensional players….can we just cut our losses with Giambi, he is a waste and a clear reminder of the turning point of the franchise….I wanted to sign him back in 01 but I am a fan, shouldn’t scouts and Cashman have seen his body type, hear murmurs of steroids, see that he couldn’t play defense and not sign him, I know such a long time ago, hindsight is 20/20, etc…just hard to believe when you commit 7 years and 120 million or whatever it was…and Cashman should be fired for Igawa period, end of story…..this team is terrible to watch….not sure what the answers are but age is catching up to us, even with Jeter….
At least this is the last season with Cashman in charge, which is the real blessing in disguise here. BTW- its one think to suck (which the yankees certaily do) but its another thing to look entirely dis-interested and listless. The Yankees are no better than the Knicks, which is really sad. They need to just release sweaty Giambi if for no other reason than to send a message.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaal right…we got’em RIGHT where we want ‘em…come on Molina ya rotund icebag…hit the white round thing !!!
We need a rally!
If only we couldve pulled off that come back in Detroit the other night. Now THAT would have gave us momentum.
I do have a question, though. I didn’t get to watch Saturday’s game, because I wasn’t home. But it sounds like it was a good game. People are talking about the Yankees not having energy and all that jazz, but no one said that on Saturday (reading the game posts). They’re up and down – half the games are good, half the games not so good. I don’t think you can paint this team with such a broad brush. For sure they are no fun to watch on a night like tonight, when they can’t figure out the pitcher. No argument there. I guess the difficult thing is they can’t seem to sustain the energy they produce during those good games.
I like Molina leading off innings. Hey Joe G, why don’t you have him hitting 1st in the order? That’s one AB per game he’s guaranteed not to GIDP.
c’mon Jose..
Toronto rallying (and hopefully staying out of the triple plays)
Oh, look, Pepper Brooks is here. The Yankees must be losing
Now that was original. Here win or lose.
Last year the pitching and offense were worse than this year but A-Rod’s hot start in April was at least something to get excited about.
This year everyone was looking to get excited about Hughes and Kennedy. Their start hasn’t been good so it’s harder to find something to get excited about so far.
hey… this guy throws fastballs !!!
See! Molina minus pressure of avoiding GIDP = hitting gold.
get jose home
RALLY TIME ! ( where’s my hat ? )
The Yanks are coming back!
“The more I watch this team I just can’t believe that this is what a $200 million payroll buys…..too many old useless one dimensional players….can we just cut our losses with Giambi, he is a waste and a clear reminder of the turning point of the franchise….I wanted to sign him back in 01 but I am a fan, shouldn’t scouts and Cashman have seen his body type, hear murmurs of steroids, see that he couldn’t play defense and not sign him, I know such a long time ago, hindsight is 20/20, etc…just hard to believe when you commit 7 years and 120 million or whatever it was…and Cashman should be fired for Igawa period, end of story…..this team is terrible to watch….not sure what the answers are but age is catching up to us, even with Jeter….”
Um. Giambi was Steinbrenner’s signing, not Cashman and the scouts’.
does gonzalez want an rbi?
If you guys think this is bad, you aint seen nothing. The real nadir will be when they lose 6-0 to Santana and the Mets.
Oh look, Sean Henn pitching for the Padres – bases loaded one out already.
Tough situation. Usually Gonzo would put the bunt down, however, he is 2-2 and really has been our whole offense tonight so we dont want to take the bat out of his hands.
what do you think?
doesnt matter.
we only need 8 runs and we have 5 outs to do it in….is this even possible ???
The rays should have brought the infield in… that would have been classic
Like AG.. He needs to be in the line up.
yankees suck daaaaaaa yankees suck
you think he would consider a BUNT ? are you nuts ? down 7-0 in the 8th inning….a BUNT ???? ( did he really say BUNT ??? )
ok Damon – let’s at least get the one run home
A run!
It’s a miracle
also I know that as educated Yankee fans we can accept a year of not making the playoffs provided that we are making progress for the future…and the hopefully new GM uses the freed up money to make smart moves and make this team a little more athletic and less reliant on the HR b/c we can’t hit with risp for anything……message to all media folks, its OK if the Yankees don’t make the playoffs, the world will not end so you don’t have to act like it will and Hank will blow a gasket, Phillips, Olney, etc…stop trying to look good and talk about the demise of the Yankees….we have the last baseball dynasty and can still live off of that for a few more years….
Hey we can get excited about Hawkins doing better than people thought he would and about Farnsworth actually giving us something to cheer about. We can truly get excited about our bullpen. And Mariano Rivera. The other night someone said they felt like they were in the presence of a deity when Mo pitches. Boy I agree with that feeling.
We can get excited about the season that Wang is having. We can also get excited that Mike Mussina has reinvented himself. And how about what Rasner has given us?
So there are a few things to cheer about. Hopefully the rest will come sooner rather than later.
toronto’s up 1-0 in the top of the 10th
finally on the board
Nice small ball run production after Molina’s double. If we can extend this game to 15 innings and hold the Rays, we might be on to something.
You know what Vito, you are right. I just had a brain fart and honestly forgot it was the 8th inning. I know when Im wrong and I admit it.
Now, I still don’t like you, but on this occasion, you were right.
I think if they had had cowbells at Pearl Harbor, the Germans would never have bombed them.
Nick in SF –
Before I left the game due to a deep depression brought on by an overdose of Suzyn Waldman I was referring to Steve Phillips as a metrosexual, not you.
Gotcha, TKinDC. Philips does have a full time silversmith tending to his goatee, so I think you’re on to something.
c’mon Bobby!
Good thing we waited awhile to get rid of Henn, he’s only walked 3 and allowed a hit so far in the 6th against the cubs.
3 called strikes? is the zone that messed up or is bobby just to tired to swing the bat?
Tough break Bobby… Pitch didn’t look down the middle when he threw it.
Yes, they do look old, slow, makes you wonder how they ever win and how the Rays ever lose . . . being down 6-0 will do that for ya lol. The only way to beat these teams (the Rays and the ever-scrappy Los Angeles Angels of the OC) is with shutdown pitching – they can’t run when they can’t get on base. Plus, no A-Rod + no Posada = a way shorter lineup. And when backups (Molina, Ensberg, the AG, WB, et al.) become starters for extended periods, offense gets even more slippery. As SJ44 has counseled so wisely, they just have to hang no more than 4-5 games back until the whole team is together again.
no THAT is clutch…RISP and you take 3 pitches all for strikes….GIVE THAT MAN A RAISE !!!
uh – sean henn’s not having a good day…4 runs in already
I fully understand that I’m in the minority on this, but hell I just can’t wait for Abreu’s contract to expire so he can take his weak game elsewhere….
I was really hoping that Veras was better than this. He seemed to be dealing down at SWB.
Meanwhile this Cavs/Celtics game is back and forth
Henn 1.2 3 5 4 3 2 0 21.60 …..how the HELL did we let this guy get away ?
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” Now, I still don’t like you, but on this occasion, you were right. ”
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Now, good doctor, if we can just forgive and forget, I am willing to put down my sword first, if you promise not to chop off one of my arms !
hah did he just say “mariano rivera warming up” about edwar haha???
v-
livian hernandez
6-1
I tried to post this before, but it got eaten up, I guess. But as difficult and un-fun as it is to watch the Yankees when they lose, no one talks about their lack of energy or commitment when they win. It’s so tempting to give in to painting them with the broad brush of indifference, I guess. And they’ve won almost as many games as they’ve lost. The real shame of the season is they can’t get into any kind of a groove, the positive energy from their victories doesn’t really spill over into the next game. Each game is an entity unto itself. That’s stopped them from having long losing streaks, but it’s also prohibited a win streak as well.
I have a question for everyone. How sick and tired are you all of watching balls drop in front of Abreu? Cause he has got to be the worst outfielder in the stadium. Any other outfielder would have caught that ball. its a shame the yankees have so many one dimensional players like abreu. They might as well complete the circle and sign Barry Bonds.
randy –
are you the Livan Hernandez fan club of LHBlog fame? I was killing him in the first inning! Can we make an imaginary bet at 13 wins for the season for the crafty cuban?
I saw him pitch down here for the Nats and I think it is a miracle he is doing what he is doing.
Randy 1,,,Livian Hernandez will simply turn it around by June 30th, and go 1-6 as he’s been known to do these last few years…However I don’t think anyone expected this…..
Guys, I have no tv access right now and my computer isn’t working. I’m on my phone…..What is going on? Score? Game recap, anyone??
thx…it is very much appreciated
i didn’t know jeter drove an edge…
god, this team makes me want to pick up a friggin OxyContin addiction.
Vito,
Deal.
Hello fellow yankee fans. My first time on Peter’s blog, although I try to read it daily. I have a crazy question….why are the Jays and Cleveland in the 10th inning?
Jays up 3-0. Is gameday having A “GROUNDHOG DAY”?
Whose spot would Livan have taken in the rotation and why?
And please don’t answer if it’s a “you wouldn’t get this if you haven’t ever tried to hit a major league knuckleball” kind of things, ‘cos I totally haven’t.
Rays winning 7-1. Going into the 9th inning. Not much more to report . It’s been hideous for the Yankees and a blast for the Rays. Yankees had a few scoring opportunities but couldn’t make it work.
Yanks looked pretty listless.
I love Abreu. More often than not he helps to carry the team at bat as well as in the field. (Despite what people feel about his wall phobia.) He’s not looking worse to me than any of our other guys at this point in time.
Cliff Lee pitches 9 innings of shutout ball and then Betancourt comes in and pukes the game away giving up 3 runs in the tenth.
I don’t think they will split a cab on the way home.
Mercifully the game is over.
LOL TK @ the Germans and cowbells at Pearl Harbor.
The silver lining to The Yanks getting swept by TB this week…..it should knock Boston out of first place at least.
BOOOO! this team stinks right now, they are unwatchable
someone really needs to smack jonny gomes…
my three cents.
Easily the line of the night from Honest Abe:
“Jason Giambi needs two home runs to pass Paul O’Neill for 15th place in franchise history. Obviously No. 25 can never be worn again once he does that..”
Great stuff…
I’m shocked Melky can wear 28 without the David Justice-Yankees fans-of the world screaming for him to change it…
Crappy game
Let’s get a win tomorrow…hopefully.
Let’s go Cavs!
I’m not sick of Abreu.
Is it ok for players to wear multiples of Paul O’Neil’s number? I mean aren’t they saying they are twice as good than he was?
“are you the Livan Hernandez fan club of LHBlog fame?”
TKinDC-
at first i was just making an argument that the yankees needed a retread type veteran pitcher to pick up the kids this year and throw some 5.00 era type innings, and i saw the deal hernandez had with the twins.
so i threw it out as an example of what the yankees could have done over the winter. then the barrage of” constructive criticism” came about my suggestion.
so yeah, i’m having fun with this. any yankee fan, even V. who called hernandez “garbage” just last night, has to like livian beating the red sox to allow the twins to take 3 of 4 from the red sox.
Unwatchable is right. And downright boring is another thing.
Pretty sad when almost every game you can tell the outcome by the 2nd or 3rd inning.
How can anyone just give the next 3 games to TB? Especially with the way the Yankees have played this season up and down? No need to be so defeatist, really. A split would be okay.
How about they play the games before conceding the series to TB? I know its a novel thought.. but still.
Sorry guys. What am I thinking being pessimistic seeing how energetic our bats are and getting to face Kazmir and Shields? Everything will be peachy keen.
Abreu STINNNKKKSSSSS!! He’ll give us a hit here and there, but he’ll give it right back, ten fold, when he lets routine flyballs drop in constantly. In front of him, behind him…it don’t matter….he can’t make any of them.
You starting to understand why Philly fans hated him?
I’ve been saying for a while now that given his age and likely the length of contract he would ask for, I wouldn’t re-sign Abreu.
“Is it ok for players to wear multiples of Paul O’Neil’s number? I mean aren’t they saying they are twice as good than he was?”
Thanks, this made me LOL and not as depressed after this lopsided game:-)
“Whose spot would Livan have taken in the rotation and why?”
nick in sf-
here’s what i wrote last week that started the livian hernandez saga. as you can see the point isn’t hernandez. it’s how to balance out a staff and bring young pitchers into the big leagues:
“livian hernandez will probably end up of with an era of over 5.00 and perkins and slowey will likely be up and down,but hernandez’s innings will insulate the twins from having to use the rookies more than they want. the rookies will develop at their own pace.
there is a symbiosis here that defies the logic that the yankees have young pitchers in their system who can do what hernandez does. they don’t.
cashman needs to create this kind of relationship between veteran pitchers and young pitchers. it is cost effective, allows for a deliberate development for the young pitcher, and ,gives depth to the team, and allows the major league team to win while it is mixing in young pitchers.”
well this game was over from the get go, we just look too old when we don’t show up, nothing else I can say after that.
I read some crazy statements tonight, how somebody wished we had Cliff Lee ? this is the same guy a few posters the other week was he wasn’t this good..you paying attention now, wanting a SP like him is ridiculous there is probably 27 other teams that want him also. He has command of all his pitches and hides the ball real well, what you saw from Cleveland was how a starting rotation outweighs everything else.
I know it is not going to happen, but bring up Brett…speed kills. Mix speed with power and you have a very good mix. People say Brett can’t hit enough, I say BS. If one is hitting over .300 in AAA, he can hit .265/.280 in the big show…realistically speaking. Remember Melky, he was under .300 in ‘05, in 06 he jumped to .350+ at AAA. Brett and Justin are both hitting over .300 and they have speed and a good eye. Big draw back; we have to many OF people now. I realize it is a reactionary idea, but why not get creative here? We aren’t going anywhere now, 500 ball isn’t going to cut it. 27/08.
Micky, I completely agree with you. This team lacks fundamentals, we need speed. Brett would be perfect for us to generate some offense. This team looks pathetic right now, bringing up brett certainly couldn’t hurt, being that this team isn’t hitting anyway.
“Can we make an imaginary bet at 13 wins for the season for the crafty cuban?”
TKinDC-
you’re on. i’ll bet he doesn’t win 13 games.
This is not a bad team, but they are a team that played bad tonight. There is a difference.
At least try to strike a balance between being a member of the sky is falling crowd and the rose colored glasses group. It’s a long season and the manic highs and lows are only going to make it feel even longer.
It is not over – remember as John Belushi said we did not give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor!
I’ll never understand Philly fans.
pat -
That’s what I was trying to say – you said it much better.
Welcome New York Yankees, you’re the new tenants of the AL East basement. Enjoy your stay there for at least the next 4 years.
oh snap…
king lebron!
surely this game wasn’t as bad as the score shows. at least molina got a run on the board…
Pat, I think it’s safe to say that after 38 games it’s clear this is a bad team. What they do from here on out who knows, but up until this point they are bad. At least the team I’ve been watching.
I think McCutchen should start tomorrow
LOL, I see you Peter
(nice question)
woohoo! Go Cavs!
Pete, you were on TV during the Damon interview. Just thought you might want to know.
Amen, Pat.
This team is nothing but predictable. As Bob mentioned earlier, you can tell the outcome by the third inning. Facing a team like Tampa Bay really makes the Yankees look lethargic and the sometimes the at-bats seem like a foregone conclusion. As it stands now this team is simply frustrating and boring to watch.
Amanda, I think one could argue that this game was worse than the score shows. Blargh.
randy l. — I think that if you’re going to transition to what you hope are your great young pitchers, that means you have to let them pitch. Maybe putting both Hughes and Kennedy in the rotation to start the year was too much of a gamble, but then both had proven they were ready to try to make that jump, so starting one in AAA over the other just would have been a guess.
It’s pretty easy to take Livan’s record and ask if the Yanks would take that, but who knows if he’d have that same record or pitch at the same level in NY.
I’ll still take going with the kids and finding out what they’ve got to a Livan. The equation might be different next year when Mussina and possibly Pettitte are off the books. That’s what I think as of May 12.
some good things in the farm
Wilkins De La Rosa’s
3.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K’s,
1.99 ERA, GO/AO 2-3
Angelini had his 1st HR of his pro career tonight
Mark Melancon
2.0 IP, 2 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 0 BB 4 K’s
2.84 ERA, GO/AO 1-1
GM.1
David Robertson
2.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 1 K
2.70 ERA, GO/AO 3-2
GM.1
Scott Patterson
1.1 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 0 K
3.18 ERA, GO/AO 2-2
Scott is back he had inherited the basesloaded and allowed nothing
The Germans??? That’s a good one!
Anyone here given up on the Yanks? Maybe one or two, but most haven’t and I must say; “keep the rose colored glasses”. It is going to get worse before it gets better, but once things get put back together, “we will return”! A-Rod and Jorge will not turn this team around, they can surly help, but it is a team sport. If one has pitching, hitting and good defence at the right time, one can always have a chance of winning. “But you can’t have one, without the other!” (I really put that in this post) Ohy, Vay! Maybe tomarrow. 27/08.
Confirmed by Ken Singleton and Johnny Damon: it’s the pitching making the difference for the Rays. That, improved defense at third and all that pesky running. Honorable mention: our Pete on-camera in the Damon interview, asking good questions and rockin’ a snazzy green shirt!! Pete, you really are the hardest working man not in show biz. Ciao, kids . . .
I am glad that one is over…
http://kallardnyc.blogspot.com.....nough.html
Someone called?
an example why Steve White in my eyes can not succeed in this level they are in the 4th in SWB and his GO/AO is 3-7 w/ 2 K’s and a HR, Igawa like results
jesus did LeBron slam the shhhhhh…. out of that ball
this is it!!! I’ve given up hope for this season…. I just don’t see any bright spot on this team… this is an old team playing old… it is not built right… too many left handed hitters… too many first basemen… too many DHs…. too many softies without heart… there’s absolutely no fight…. probably Joe Torre’s influence already deeply embedded in them… LOSERS!!!!!
““are you the Livan Hernandez fan club of LHBlog fame?â€
TKinDC-
at first i was just making an argument that the yankees needed a retread type veteran pitcher to pick up the kids this year and throw some 5.00 era type innings, and i saw the deal hernandez had with the twins.
so i threw it out as an example of what the yankees could have done over the winter. then the barrage of†constructive criticism†came about my suggestion.
so yeah, i’m having fun with this. any yankee fan, even V. who called hernandez “garbage†just last night, has to like livian beating the red sox to allow the twins to take 3 of 4 from the red sox.”
Dunno if you saw my post last night – I was taking a look at his game log from the past couple years last night – guy is the epitome of feast or famine. His overall numbers usually end up garbage, but he’s capable of giving you 8 innings of 1 run ball or 1 inning of 8 run ball, rofl.
I have to say, all in all, a high variance like that beats a mediocre 5 ERA guy anyday.
Good point on the Rays athleticism and energy. The Yanks sure look old, slow and listless. I think Gomes would do anything to beat the Yanks. Too bad more fans in Tampa don’t appreciate their young team.
Pete, nice seeing you during Johnny Damon’s post game interview. You were front and center LOL
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“Memo to Hammering Hank and Cashman….watch the Rays and what the Red Sox are doing…might find a winning formula.”
^^Bingo. Stop signing old, post-peak vets to ridiculous contracts and start bring up guys from the farm. The worst habit of the Yanks is hording prospects. We’ve lost some really good players because they got tired of being stuck in Tampa & Scranton and went to another team.
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“also I know that as educated Yankee fans we can accept a year of not making the playoffs provided that we are making progress for the future”
^^The fans can, but the owners don’t want to. The Steinbrenners like the constant cash and don’t want to go back to the empty seat era of the 80s, especially with the new stadium. Also to justify the ridiculous seat prices in the new building, the Yanks have to have “big names” on the team to attract the casual fan, big spender season ticket buyers.
Sorry Bob, don’t agree.
Fans usually think teams look bad when they don’t win. I think the team has been streaky but I don’t think they are bad.
IMO- Wang and Mussina have both been more effective than most would have guessed. The contributions from the bullpen have been good as well- lots less Farnsworthless jokes should drive that point home. Mo has had a remarkable start. Melky has played well defensively and has been a much more mature hitter. Matsui has been swinging the bat well. Gonzalez has played well defensively and has had his moments at the plate.
A friend of mine has a saying about “3 Attaboys” get erased by “1 oh (shoot)”. That’s what this team reminds me of now. They have done good things but it’s easier to remember the bad ones.
The Yankees are going to sell out in the new stadium the next couple of years regardless of who’s on the field. Big names or not.
It’s in year 3 of the new stadium that you have to put a winning product on the field to keep the fans coming.
Anyhow I don’t think Hank has that kind of concern anyway. Hal is more of a business guy that would take something like that into account.
“The Yankees are going to sell out in the new stadium the next couple of years regardless of who’s on the field. Big names or not.”
That’s true, but they want people to show up. And too frequently, the big spenders only come when they feel its worth it. Even if they sell every ticket in the house, the Yanks don’t want people not showing up. I went to a game last August & the stadium was half filled. Most of those tix were sold, but people for whatever reason didn’t want to come out to the stadium for that game. It doesn’t look good when you see tons of empty seats, sold or unsold.