Comments on: A few thoughts as it rains … http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/ A Yankees Blog by Journal News beat writer Peter Abraham Tue, 7 Oct 2008 08:35:55 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.5 By: LathamJoe http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351383 LathamJoe Sat, 17 May 2008 02:15:02 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351383 "Barry Zito, Mike Hampton, Carl Pavano, the list goes on and on. Long-term deals for FA starters aren’t good business and historically have not worked out. The best method is to develop your own pitchers. Whether it’s Hughes, Kennedy, Horne, McCutchen or anybody else, the Yankees have to draft and develop their own starters." That's not an entirely objective or accurate assessment of FA pitcher acquisitions. For every pitcher you've mentioned, there's also a Curt Schilling, Josh Beckett, Kenny Rogers, David Cone, Jimmy Key, Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson, David Steward type pitcher who has worked out very well for their new Team and has led them to Post Season titles as a Free agent. “Barry Zito, Mike Hampton, Carl Pavano, the list goes on and on. Long-term deals for FA starters aren’t good business and historically have not worked out. The best method is to develop your own pitchers. Whether it’s Hughes, Kennedy, Horne, McCutchen or anybody else, the Yankees have to draft and develop their own starters.”

That’s not an entirely objective or accurate assessment of FA pitcher acquisitions. For every pitcher you’ve mentioned, there’s also a Curt Schilling, Josh Beckett, Kenny Rogers, David Cone, Jimmy Key, Roger Clemens, Randy Johnson, David Steward type pitcher who has worked out very well for their new Team and has led them to Post Season titles as a Free agent.

]]> By: mickey's monkey http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351275 mickey's monkey Fri, 16 May 2008 23:20:04 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351275 Anthony May 16th, 2008 at 5:11 pm “My offer to Sabathia would be something like 3 yrs/$64mil w/ options. I’d love for some smart baseball person to tell me how that wouldn’t make sense for all parties.” Becase Sabathia could get $20 million for 7 years from someone else. Anthony. . .you didn't really address my point. Sure, sure CC might get $20mil per for seven years, but that makes sense ONLY for CC. I said "all parties." Anthony
May 16th, 2008 at 5:11 pm
“My offer to Sabathia would be something like 3 yrs/$64mil w/ options.
I’d love for some smart baseball person to tell me how that wouldn’t make sense for all parties.”
Becase Sabathia could get $20 million for 7 years from someone else.

Anthony. . .you didn’t really address my point.
Sure, sure CC might get $20mil per for seven years, but that makes sense ONLY for CC.
I said “all parties.”

]]> By: Fleas (Negative when we lose) http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351175 Fleas (Negative when we lose) Fri, 16 May 2008 21:30:23 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351175 It's much nicer to have disagreements and conversation without insults. (not counting the one that belongs at the tupperware party) It’s much nicer to have disagreements and conversation without insults.

(not counting the one that belongs at the tupperware party)

]]> By: Anthony http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351158 Anthony Fri, 16 May 2008 21:11:44 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351158 "My offer to Sabathia would be something like 3 yrs/$64mil w/ options. I’d love for some smart baseball person to tell me how that wouldn’t make sense for all parties." Becase Sabathia could get $20 million for 7 years from someone else. “My offer to Sabathia would be something like 3 yrs/$64mil w/ options.
I’d love for some smart baseball person to tell me how that wouldn’t make sense for all parties.”

Becase Sabathia could get $20 million for 7 years from someone else.

]]> By: rover http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351138 rover Fri, 16 May 2008 20:48:30 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351138 I have to agree, this is a boring team, for many reasons, once they fall behind i justs go watch law and order, or the white highway lines fade. i even went downtown and watched them turn on the streetlights. just one boring team. I have to agree, this is a boring team, for many reasons, once they fall behind i justs go watch law and order, or the white highway lines fade. i even went downtown and watched them turn on the streetlights. just one boring team.

]]> By: mickey's monkey http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351127 mickey's monkey Fri, 16 May 2008 20:37:36 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351127 It is WAY too early to judge the Santana deal. He's been pitching well, but the Mets aren't paying for him to be pitching well. They are playing for absolutely brilliant pitching just about every time out. That's what they SHOULD be getting for all that money. If, at the end of his deal, Santana has won 110 games for the Mets, which, I believe, is an average of about 18 wins per season, they'll be able to claim it was a good deal. Anything less than that, and they've been hosed. As for long-term FA pitching deals, in general: they stink. Which one has worked out? Ironically, the deal the Yankees gave to Mike Mussina back in 2001 (or whenever it was) looks like one of the best...and it wasn't THAT great. With Sabathia coming into the market six months from now, the rumors, dollars, and bull will be flying around before too long. But, as with everyone else, a long term deal WON'T make any sense. My offer to Sabathia would be something like 3 yrs/$64mil w/ options. I'd love for some smart baseball person to tell me how that wouldn't make sense for all parties. It is WAY too early to judge the Santana deal. He’s been pitching well, but the Mets aren’t paying for him to be pitching well. They are playing for absolutely brilliant pitching just about every time out. That’s what they SHOULD be getting for all that money. If, at the end of his deal, Santana has won 110 games for the Mets, which, I believe, is an average of about 18 wins per season, they’ll be able to claim it was a good deal. Anything less than that, and they’ve been hosed.
As for long-term FA pitching deals, in general: they stink. Which one has worked out? Ironically, the deal the Yankees gave to Mike Mussina back in 2001 (or whenever it was) looks like one of the best…and it wasn’t THAT great.
With Sabathia coming into the market six months from now, the rumors, dollars, and bull will be flying around before too long. But, as with everyone else, a long term deal WON’T make any sense.
My offer to Sabathia would be something like 3 yrs/$64mil w/ options.
I’d love for some smart baseball person to tell me how that wouldn’t make sense for all parties.

]]> By: ant1-mussina http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351069 ant1-mussina Fri, 16 May 2008 20:00:59 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351069 please stop hating on pavano. his uneven legs contributed to all his recent injuries. please stop hating on pavano. his uneven legs contributed to all his recent injuries.

]]> By: randy l http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351045 randy l Fri, 16 May 2008 19:54:19 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351045 "pavano sucks because his legs are uneven. one of his legs is shorter than the other." actually pavano sucks because one of his egos is shorter than the other. he suffers from a multiple personality disorder. “pavano sucks because his legs are uneven. one of his legs is shorter than the other.”
actually pavano sucks because one of his egos is shorter than the other. he suffers from a multiple personality disorder.

]]> By: ant1-mussina http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351039 ant1-mussina Fri, 16 May 2008 19:51:26 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351039 do you really think moose will be able to keep this up for the duration of the season? unfortunately, i don't. i think he will string together some bad starts soon. i hope not though because im a yankees fan first and a moose hater second. do you really think moose will be able to keep this up for the duration of the season? unfortunately, i don’t. i think he will string together some bad starts soon. i hope not though because im a yankees fan first and a moose hater second.

]]> By: Blargh http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351037 Blargh Fri, 16 May 2008 19:50:50 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/16/a-few-thought-as-it-rains/#comment-351037 In that case, there is no point in discussing any deal/non-deal made until years afterward In that case, there is no point in discussing any deal/non-deal made until years afterward

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