Game 43: Mets at Yankees
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- May
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YANKEES
Damon LF
Abreu RF
Jeter SS
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Gonzalez 3B
Moeller C
Pettitte LHP
METS
Reyes SS
Church RF
Wright 3B
Beltran CF
Alou LF
Delgado 1B
Easley DH
Schneider C
Castillo 2B
Santana LHP
Andy Pettitte (3-4, 4.40) against the Mets hitters.
Johan Santana (4-2, 3.10) against the Yankees hitters.
Back later with updates.
* * * * * * * * * * A-ROD REHAB UPDATE * * * * * * * * * *
12:05 p.m.: In St. Petersburg, Fla., A-Rod played in an extended spring training game. facing David Price of the Rays (the LHP taken first in the 2007 draft), he was 1 for 4. Here’s the breakdown:
* Struck out swinging
* First pitch home run to right center
* Fly to right
* Walked in five pitches
* Struck out looking
A-Rod also handled three grounders without trouble. He’ll play two more of these games and should be ready to go on Tuesday.
UPDATE, 12:09 p.m.: Dellin Betances pitched for Charleston last night. His line: 6 0 1 0 3 8. The River Dogs lost 3-1.
Betances on the season: 4-3, 3.26. 47 innings, 27 hits (!), 32 walks, 57 strikeouts.
Brian Cashman said they want to keep Betances and Zach McAllister (5-2, 2.20) in the Sally League all season. Betances turned 20 in March. McAllister is 19.
UPDATE, 12:17 p.m.: Here’s Joe Girardi’s pre-game press conference. He had some interesting comments about Joba Chamberlain. He admitted there was a chance that the right-hander would stay in the bullpen.
Brian Cashman wouldn’t touch the question. I personally believe they have a hard-and-fast plan to move him this season. We shall see.
UPDATE, 12:22 p.m.: Forget to mention this, but I had a chance to meet Rebecca last night. If you read the comments section on the blog, Rebecca is one of our most prolific and best writers and it was nice to talk to her. She was at the game with her brother.
I should write this more often, but it has been a real pleasure to meet so many people at different stadiums.
UPDATE, 12:24 p.m.: Here’s the Brian Cashman audio from today. We tried to get him to talk about Joba to no avail.
UPDATE, 1:06 p.m.: I like looking at the fans during the national anthem to see what jerseys people are wearing.
The Subway Series is neat. You see one person with a Jeter jersey next to his buddy in a Reyes jersey. I saw a couple right below the press box. The guy had on a Joba authentic jersey and his girlfriend (or wife) was wearing Santana.
The players get a little weary of the Subway Series because of the hype and the extra attention. I personally think it should be three games instead of six. It’s not fair to the teams that they beat each other up while their division rivals are playing easier foes.
But it’s still a cool event no matter how many games it is and it’s great for baseball.
UPDATE, 1:15 p.m.: It would appear the big lefty came to pitch today. 13 pitches / 11 strikes, three whiffs. He needs to be on his game because that lefty of the Mets knows his business.
Santana is a six or seven inning pitcher, however. The Yankees need to make him work and get into the Mets bullpen.
UPDATE, 1:25 p.m.: Jeter has now hit safely in 16 straight games against the Mets. He is 95 of 248 (.383) against them for his career.
He hit a homer. Guess that means he hits cleanup tomorrow.
UPDATE, 1:35 p.m.: The answer is Moises Alou.
The question is whether there is anybody in the big leagues slower than The Big G.
Petttitte, meanwhile, has fanned five of the seven batters he has faced.
UPDATE, 1:59 p.m.: It looked on the replay that Damon was safe. Given how the Yankees are struggling to score (and they’re up 2-0), that’s a good send by Bobby Meacham.
UPDATE, 2:11 p.m.: It’s happening again to Andy Pettitte. He is cruising along and suddenly he gives up a big inning. He’ll be doing well here to escape with the score tied.
UPDATE, 2:19 p.m.: Well, Pettitte had a chance to escape and he walked the No. 8 hitter. The Mets are trying to bait him into a balk.
If he walks Castillo, I think they have to take him out.
UPDATE, 2:23 p.m.: Well, that’s certainly a tough break for Pettitte. Now he’s got to deal with Reyes.
UPDATE, 2:26 p.m.: It could have been worse given that the Mets left the bases loaded. The question now is whether the scuffling Yankees offense can score another run. Two has been their limit lately.
UPDATE, 2:46 p.m.: Santana has retired eight straight and 13 of 16 since Jeter’s home run. Worse, the Yankees are making it easy on him by failing to work the count. He has thrown only 61 pitches.
Meanwhile, I’m a little surprised Pettitte was sent back out for the sixth inning with 103 pitches under his belt.
UPDATE, 2:58 p.m.: You understand what Jeter is trying to do there. But running on Beltran’s arm is never smart.
Meanwhile, that was a 10-pitch inning for Santana. The last six hitters in the lineup are 0 for 12 with a walk.
The Yankees have scored eight runs in their last 48 innings. It’s amazing.
UPDATE, 3:05 p.m.: Just a matter of when the real Kyle Farnsworth returned to town. Close game, home run. Down two in the seventh inning might as well be 20 the way the Yankees are hitting.
UPDATE, 3:10 p.m.: And that’s your ballgame. Only question now is whether Farnsworth throws at somebody. I’d say it’s 50-50.
Willie Randolph is safe, at least for a couple of days. The New York heat shifts to Joe Girardi now.
UPDATE, 3:43 p.m.: If you’re a Mets fan, don’t you have to be concerned that Santana has allowed 11 home runs in 60 innings?
He has given up 41 over his last 279 innings.
UPDATE, 4:06 p.m.: The Yankees bullpen today: 3 6 4 4 2 2 and 2 HRs. Pettitte gets the loss but Farnsworth and Chamberlain deserve a share.
Meanwhile, the Yankees are on a pace to score 667 runs — 301 fewer than last season. Granted, the sample is skewed by the absence of A-Rod and Posada. But, still, it speaks to how poorly they have been playing.
UPDATE, 4:17 p.m.: That really is your ballgame. The Yanks are 20-23 and 5.5 out pending the Rays-Cards game.
Back later with some reaction.
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Same line-up as what yesterday would have been…odd
Cano is wearing me today.
Andy will match
santana. Put it in the bank
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05162008/sports/jason_giambi_wears_gold_thong_for_luck___111139.htm
“Same line-up as what yesterday would have been…odd”
Why? It’s still the same pitcher on the mound.
Good point whozat. I would of guessed with Girardi’s creativity he would have made a new line-up for today.
Five of the first six are lefties? Is Santana more susceptible to left handed batters than most left handed pitchers?
Same deal as when Kazmir pitched….without Arod and Posada, there isn’t much you can do with this lineup.
If Melky was HOT, then I’d say move him up to break up the lefty brigade.
Melky had two hits last game. This year that counts as torrid.
Not trying to excuse the Yankees’ performance but the Rays were brilliant again yesterday proving they can play with anybody. That one victory against them this week almost seems like a big accomplishment.
Rays have no need for the Yankees golden thong.
Wait? Is this game @11 AM?
nevermind-I think Russo was joking and I am still half asleep!
lol
oy
At least there’s vain hope that Girardi/Cashman has now recognized that Ensberg can’t hit lefties after all…
or righties… or, in fact, field…
“Good point whozat. I would of guessed with Girardi’s creativity he would have made a new line-up for today.”
He’s not creative…he’s been trying to see if his righties can hit lefties, since the Yanks have been terrible against southpaws since last year. And, he’s been trying to rest the vets, especially during that early ridiculous stretch.
It’s not like he’s doing this for the sake of it.
Maybe you should wear the golden thong, NYPD.
Might help you score, eh?
Dat’s what I think!
If we can somehow score more than 2 runs today-I consider that a small victory.
“Maybe you should wear the golden thong, NYPD.
Might help you score, eh?
Dat’s what I think!”
- Doubtful, you see Giambi’s numbers?
Yeah, NYPD, but I heard your numbers are worse!
No what I mean?
“Yeah, NYPD, but I heard your numbers are worse!
No what I mean?”
-Who do you think is wearing it today Tink? Andy? Melky?
******TODAYS GAME WILL BE PLAYED AT 11:05********
NYPD
You seem waaaaaaay too interested in guys wearing a thong.
I can’t believe Chris Russo could be this bush league. I think a lot of people actually believed the 11am start time. What a tool. He’s currently making fun of the listeners who couldn’t tell he was joking. I can’t stand him…
“NYPD
You seem waaaaaaay too interested in guys wearing a thong.”
- So does all the local papers.
So pat, who do you think is wearing it? Do you approve of this new tradition?
You sound like a real fun guy Chuck.
When Hank makes comments they draw a lot of attention.
When Hal says something… not so much. Funny how the guy who usually says something rational and calm doesn’t get nearly the same amount of attention.
Here’s a few things Hal had to say:
“I’ve been discouraged at times. We knew with the young pitching that we might go through some growing pains. We knew we would have to be patient there. What’s more disappointing to me is the hitting. The hitting and the injuries, which are nobody’s fault. You can’t win many games if you only score one or two runs.”
“We need to just stay in the hunt,” he said of surviving the injury bug. ” … I absolutely feel we have a great team. I believe we have as good a chance as anybody this year.”
And how about this one on Santana:
“There’s nothing that makes me regret [not getting Santana],” Hal said.”
He’s half owner. Nothing gets done without his approval. People seem to completely forget them everytime Hank says something in an inflammatory way.
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spyside165687998may16,0,7096441.story?track=rss
NYPD113: I have no thongs in my closet, but I have my moments.
CB - I think it’s because for all of these years we have had George yelling and the Yankee fans are used to this. In the last year or two when it was Howard Rubinstein coming out with a “message by George” it wasn’t the same. Hank has revived that old feeling and whether the fans agree or disagree with him, it gets everyone talking like his dad did.
Yeah, Hank, keep mouthing off!
the Yankees’ payroll is the highest in MLB. They have to overpay for established talent to come to New York because of the immense pressure to succeed and the public chastisement that they have to take from spoiled, non-baseball brats like Juniorstein!
CB -
Isn’t it always the way? And the media is certainly not going to remind people that they should remember that Hank has a counterbalance in his brother. What sells more papers? What encourages more blog hits? Bombastic statements or cool rationalism? There ya go!
Beautiful day for a baseball game. We’re hoping the rain stays away so we can go see the Trenton Thunder tonight. Yay! Go Yankees!
As mad as I was that last night’s game was postponed, at least we pick up 2 games (DET and NYM) where we can have A-Rod and Jorge back.
” I absolutely feel we have a great team. ”
nice analysis hal.
that’s supposed to be rational thinking.
i think ‘delusional” might be a better way of putting it.
the yankees do not have a great team. they don’t even have a good team at the moment.
i know hank hasn’t been to a game in yankee stadium yet? does hal even watch games?
“GREAT” ?
very odd choice of words
NYPD113
infatuated by the golden thong would like to take a good long sniff.
Rhap, why do you keep avoiding giving your take on this new GAY Yankee tradition?
The Red Sox share jack Daniels, the Yankees share women’s undies, kinda the same.
Another great day for baseball got here early for bp and the best thing is that I got a ball hit into where our seats are off the bat of the captain. Sad that a 42 year old can get excited about that but it is great has the final season logo on it as well.
Brother Hank likes interleague play; agree or disagree?
“the Yankees share women’s undies, kinda the same.”
I’m reasonably certain that it’s a man-thong. Still funny that Giambi wears it. Your idiotic, homophobic comments…less funny.
“the yankees do not have a great team. they don’t even have a good team at the moment.”
But if they were playing better, that’d make them a good team?
You can have a good team that plays badly, and a bad team that plays well. I agree with Hal that, once they’re healthy, the Yanks have plenty of talent to put on the field. They even have enough right now to be winning more than they are. They’re just not playing good baseball. That’s very different than having a bad team.
“I’m reasonably certain that it’s a man-thong.”
– Is that like the ‘Bro’ that Cosmo Kramer came up with. Really whozat? A “man-thong”? LMAO
NYPD113
bartolo colon in a golden thong hmmmm.
Gayle -
NOT SAD AT ALL!!!
My husband, mid-40’s, almost knocked down my niece, about 7, to catch a homerun ball in Seattle!
Something about getting that ball at a baseball game….
“bartolo colon in a golden thong hmmmm.”
- Yanks pick him up on waivers?
whozat-
if nypd113th wasn’t such a dumb@#$%#@ , he realize we do a good job of harassing each other right now.
nothing like a red sox troll to unite the blog.
Proving that this comment section is some of the worst minds in the biz. Discussing thongs and trying to analyze and rip apart Hal’s comments. Great job fellas.
“Is that like the ‘Bro’ that Cosmo Kramer came up with. Really whozat?”
Nope. They actually sell thonged underwear for men. I mean…they’re usually worn by male strippers, but they’re sold.
Team Hal!
This should be entertaining, I can’t wait:
Colon may fill the void Tuesday
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/articles/2008/05/16/colon_may_fill_the_void_tuesday/
“Nope. They actually sell thonged underwear for men. I mean…they’re usually worn by male strippers, but they’re sold.”
-Are you justifying this blatantly gay behavior for any particular reason who?
Would you like to tell us all something? LMAO!
“This should be entertaining, I can’t wait:
Colon may fill the void Tuesday”
- Would you like to make a wager that he performs better than Igawa?
Now those are some lofty standards, Sox are in trouble.
- Would you like to make a wager that he performs better than Igawa?
M&MD have no clue, to be honest, that Hank even has a brother. Hal’s words should carry more weight because he rarely speaks, whereas Hank is just a windbag who opens his mouth and doesn’t really say anything worth hearing.
Maybe he can pitch in japan.
- Would you like to make a wager that he performs better than Igawa?
So Rhap, yes or no?
“They’re just not playing good baseball. That’s very different than having a bad team.”
i don’t think the yankees are a bad team. they are more like mediocre right now. not good,not bad.
when arod comes back it’ll of course help, but posada is a way off and we don’t actually know he’s going to be ok.
the yankees are absolutely going to have to come up with a fifth starter who can win half his games. i’m assuming rassner can win half of his, and that mussina can win a little more than half of his.
so the yankees really need wang and pettitte and the bullpen to get the yankees over the .500 mark. joba is one obvious variable who could change the dynamic around, but none of us actually know when he’s going to be thrown into the mix.
one thing i know is that his value in the 7th and 8th inning on a team that doesn’t have a lot of leads in those innings is a lot less than it would be in those innings if the yankees were a good team.
hal is looking through rose colored glasses if he thinks the yankees are not in trouble. a lot of thinks have to go right for them to get back on track.
Hmm, seeing the name Hal reminds me of film AI…(first I thought of WarGames’ Joshua, then I finally remembered Hal)…
Can you imagine him saying, “I’m sorry Hank, I’m afraid I can’t do that”?
…and to the Mets and Yankees: Shall we play a game?
I hope everyone remembers to check this movie out.
“Would you like to tell us all something? LMAO!”
I was debating whether to pre-call that you’d make this exact comment. I figured I’d take the high road. But I should have realized you wouldn’t.
There’s nothing I’d like to tell you about my sexuality. I know what my orientation is, and I’m extremely comfortable with it. It has nothing to do with my ability to discuss baseball. I was merely correcting your statement that Giambi wears ladies underwear when he’s in a slump.
You, however, seem to find it funny that someone you’re talking to might be gay. Why is that funny? What does it have to do with anything?
Looks like ARod did a little bit of everything in his first rehab game. (Strike out both ways; homerun; walk; fly out.) As long as he comes through still feeling good, that’s all I ask.
Way to go Alex, HR against Price.
Alex returning just in time, .468 lifetime ba against Colon.
Afterall, that team has a lot in common with the current Yankees.
So a-rod struck out twice against Price?
it’s really amazing that the yankees pitching seems pretty bad overall, but you look up and the red sox pitching staff is at 4.25 era and the a yankees are at 4.26.
the yankees pitching staff going to get better. if nothing else, the yankees have joba to look forward to, what do the red sox have to look forward to improving their staff?
shilling? i don’t think so? bartolo colon? not likely
The Yankees are full of rocket science and applied math double majors?
Good update on ARod. Thanks Pete. Looks like Alex should be back Tuesday.
I know it is in vogue to poke fun at Colon on this blog. It’s all good…I certainly understand that.
Just remember that in his starts at Pawtucket Colon has an ERA of .064 and has a fastball that has been topping out a little over 95 mph.
Shall we compare those stats with Igawa, Kennedy, or Hughes?
“they are more like mediocre right now. not good,not bad.”
They’re playing mediocre baseball, yeah. But that doesn’t make them a mediocre team. If their expected performance was what they’re doing right now, that’d be a problem. But it’s not. Jeter, Cano and Abreu have all underperformed, ARod’s not on the field, and the young pitchers haven’t had any of the (perfectly reasonably expected) good starts to counterbalance the bad. Kennedy — like any other starter — needs to feel good enough about his breaking stuff to throw it in MLB games. That was a big difference between his AAA start and his most recent start. It’s not that the pitch isn’t good enough when he’s got a feel for it — it is. He just either didn’t have a feel for it in Tampa, or he just didn’t feel confident enough to throw it. And, of course, Joba will probably start the move about a month from now. Horne will be back to starting soon, and could make his case for a move up to the majors. Giese keeps making himself look more and more like an Aaron Small-swingman candidate.
Bottom line is they need to score more runs by getting on base more. They can’t be losing every game in which the pitching gives up three runs.
“Kennedy”
Kennedy’s AAA ERA is 0.00
randy: The offense makes things look a lot worse…actually, the offense makes things worse anyway
Currently the Yankees are at 4.12 runs a game, but if you take away the 15-9 slugfest against Boston, it drops to 3.85 runs a game
(for consistency purposes, if we ignore that game pitching-wise, the staff era drops to 4.14)
If Colon could throw 100 pitches for 95 mph you’d have something.
5′ 11″ 250 lbs with a bum shoulder? No thanks. I’ll take my chances with Hughes and Kennedy
“Hughes”
Depends…was Colon pitching with a broken rib?
ray
Igawa and Kennedy have both pitched great at AAA. It’s the next step that has been the issue.
“Hughes”
Depends…was Colon pitching with a broken rib?
No but Colon has a gland problem.
It’s located under his nose.
“Just remember that in his starts at Pawtucket Colon has and ERA of .064 and has a fastball that has been topping out a little over 95 mph.
Shall we compare those stats with Igawa, Kennedy, or Hughes?”
First that’s the minors. You’re comparing a 35 y/o pitcher pretty much pitching against kids to Hughes and Kennedy learning how to pitch in the majors?
I know your smarter then that.
Timely hitting and all this BS goes away. Soon all you trolls and couch managers will be gone and the Yanks will be winning.
Lots of updates posted.
Colon has proven he can pitch in The Majors. Cy Young winner.
Good start for Alex. They always say he is right at the plate when he is hiting HR’s to right, so I guess that’s a good sign.
As long as he comes through the weekend healthier than he went into it, I’ll take it.
I think Joba will eventually be in the rotation.
Jax,
I honestly appreciate that Hughes and Kennedy are young developing pitchers. I believe they will both in time be star pitchers for the Yankees. I wouldn’t have the same confidence in Igawa.
My main point is that all the Sox have committed to Colon right now is a million dollars per year. In today’s baseball environment that is a very small risk and a possible good return.
“Colon has proven he can pitch in The Majors.”
he hasn’t proved it this year.
the only way he gets a chance to prove it is if the league continues figuring out buchholz is no big deal if you sit on his off speed stuff and buchholz replaces colon at pawtucket.
so for a red sox fan to be excited about colon , they must be pretty unexcited about buchholz.
i personally can’t wait to see colon come up because it’ll mean the red sox have problems.
The team has clearly not played well to this point in the season and many people are writing them off.
They’ve gone 20-22 in their first 42 games.
An interesting question is what that means? It’s easy to put a disproportionate amount of attention to the beginning of a season.
So is it that unusual for a yankee teams to go 20-22 over a 42 game stretch? Is it that much evidence to know that this is not a good team?
Over at the RLYB they took a look at this question.
Turns out it’s not that unusual for them to go 20-22. Since 1995 they’ve gone 20-22 over a 42 game stretch in 6 different seasons:
tart Date End Date W L
5/28/1995 7/13/1995 20 22
7/7/1996 8/22/1996 20 22
4/29/2000 6/18/2000 20 22
4/19/2003 6/4/2003 20 22
4/7/2007 5/23/2007 20 22
4/1/2008 5/15/2008 20 22
They made the playoffs in each of the preceding seasons in which they’ve had a 20-22 stretch.
http://www.replacementlevel.com/index.php/RLYW/comments/what_does_losing_22_of_42_games_mean
Buchholz is on the DL. That’s why Colon is being brought up.
Judging by the numbers, expect nothing from Damon today while Hit-deki, Jetes and Cano should rake. But so much for numbers. Let’s see what happens.
Maybe Big G should try wearing the Golden Thong on his head. Maybe if he covers one eye with it, he’ll hit to LF.
Colon at 95mph? Great. Is he still throwing 60 pitches by the 3rd inning? But seriously, the returning velocity just means the ball will leave the park off A-Rod’s bat that much faster.
Shame about Willie, but that finish last year really shortened the leash this year. Hope he turns it around.
CB,
Those other years they proved they could play better than 20 - 22 in other stretches. This year they have ONLY gone 20-22.
buccholz was getting hammered and was in danger of going down to triple a.
the twins figured him out and sat on the breaking ball and change up , knocking him out of the game.
once that gets around the league, mr. buchholz is going to have a very different pitching experience.
The horror, the frailty, the Santana shutout…..
Another depressing 3 and half hours is just 25 minutes away.
it’s getting close to game time!!
Wow! So much going on today. Thanks, Pete for the flurry of updates.
Good luck to the Yankees and lots of positive vibes to the blog.
“Those other years they proved they could play better than 20 - 22 in other stretches. This year they have ONLY gone 20-22.”
One of those years was last year. That’s not too long ago and nearly all of the offensive players are the same.
Do you really think the team is going to play .480 ball?
Do they really need to “prove” that they’re better than a .480 team?
And the much bigger factor about this 20-22 game run? That its happened while both ARod and Posada have been hurt.
In none of those other streaks did the team lose players of the caliber of ARod and Posada for that length of time.
This season is becoming very much a replay of last season. Only the pitching is better this year (especially in the bull pen).
And last year worked out OK - and that was with the Sox getting off to an amazing start and the wild card race being very fierce.
Thanks for the updates Peter!
Let’s go Yankees! Try and score more than 1 run today.
CB:
I’m with you.
“And the much bigger factor about this 20-22 game run? That its happened while both ARod and Posada have been hurt.”
There’s plenty of time and there’s plenty of help on the way.
Open up those Prozac bottles, only 10 minutes to do so…
CB,
I think the Yankees will make the playoffs. I’m just saying they have yet to do anything other than 20-22.
i’m glad that the yankees are facing santana today against a rival that they don’t want to lose to.
good players sometimes need challenges to snap up out of their funk.
Boston was up 9.5 games a year ago today.
http://www.shrpsports.com/mlb/stand.php
LET’S GO YANKEES
wtf, game is blacked out for me in FL. ON YES and THe Mets channel.. god damnit..
Sorry, this will take you to the link to show the standings a year ago today, just follow the drop-downs.
http://www.shrpsports.com/mlb/stand.htm
Yeah for some reason MLB extra innings (digital cable and satellite) doesn’t show Saturday afternoon games.
Last year around this time was very painful.
We will survive this year.
jeter makes that play 2 years ago. sad.
I really have a ton of respect for those who are able to keep up with the posts on here. It’s a really difficult thing for me to do. I’ll post something, and it then becomes really difficult for me to follow up on any replies, which is unfortunate since I know I purposely do make provocative comments at times.
Anyways….I say this because Pete mentioned meeting Rebecca, and she is definitely a regular who is able to keep up with the pace of this place. Big ups to you both!
Now let’s kick some inferior NY team butt!
Really good start by Andy. Hope that he keeps it up today.
someone took his HGH today…
good job Pettitte…hope that continues for several innings!
anyone watching this on MLB.com ?
I keep getting “We are currently performing maintenance operations.
During this time, sections of the site will not be available.
We apologize for any inconvenience this may cause.”
grr
Hey Andy! Striking out the side!
bigpoop-
is that short for big poopie?
i just like to get your politics straight before commenting.
Checking in to say hey!
Alive and tired (plagued with allergies today) so I am going to be a bench player more than anything.
Will check in from time to time and especially when we kick Santana’s ass.
GO YANKEES!!!
GO BREWERS!!!
P.S. I’ll never understand being blacked out by FOX yet being able to watch over MLB tv!
Anyone interested in 2 tix for 6/9 (day game)?
Paid $95 each. Looking to sell for $90 each. Field Box seats Section 26 (down left field line). 3-4 rows from the field. Seats also include passes to Stadium Club.
If interested, let me know.
Could we be in store for an old fashioned pitchers’ duel?
Maybe not…
Rebecca, was it a thrill to meet Pete?
He didn’t hit on you, did he?
LOL Santana gives up another one. NUMBER 9
those are the kind of big hits I have been KILLING Jeter for the past 2 weeks. Nice to see!
Maybe Derek should bat clean-up!
WOO HOO Jeter!!!!
I called it! OK I always wish for it, but I thought that Jeter would get a hit here.
So I guess Jeter likes playing the Mets.
Brandon,
If you’re here, you know what to do!
Hi Trisha - hope you feel better. That homerun must have helped!
Just want to chime in here and say–Thank you Derek. Let’s hope Santana’s home run count climbs even more today!
That was a Jeterian blast. Who needs Santana?
Jeets!
Everyone should know by now that out-of-market games are blacked out during Fox’s lame exclusive window. The question for me is, why wasn’t this a Fox game? Too much anti-NY backlash? Bah.
Clay/Joe: Yes, and most certainly not. Anyway, I had my brother with me.
WAH!!!!
WAH!!!!
We shoulda gotted Santana!!!
WAH!!!!!
Hope the Santana freaks are watching this. Someone better start passing out kleenex.
SA-WEET!!!!!
Just wanted to check in - just saw the score….where are all the “shoulda traded for Santana” people now?
Anyone interested in 2 tix for 6/9 (day game)?
Paid $95 each. Looking to sell for $89.99 each. Field Box seats Section 26 (down left field line). 3-4 rows from the field. Seats also include passes to Stadium Club.
If interested, let me know.
they need to pull an 8 Bells on Giambi. he needs to be put down
I just hope we tattoo Santana. I doubt we do, no one really does, but I really hope we beat him like we used to beat Pedro. Get a few off Johan, get to their bullpen, and win it late. That’s the vintage Torre way to win.
“Clay/Joe: Yes, and most certainly not. Anyway, I had my brother with me.”
Good, glad to hear it. You know how those Oscar Madison types are.
Fran - nothing helps allergies more than Jeter hitting a two-run blast against Santana, knowing that Fleas is in the background.
He he he he he!
anyone know how many pitches that was for johan?
Santana throw a straight 4 seem FB 88,89,90 and people actually get on Hughes about his velocity.
I’ve seen a better FB out of Hughes (except his start against the Blue Jays) then I’ve seen out of Santana.
moises alou can rake
lol… yes, he gave up a HR to Jeter so its proof the yanks shouldn’t of traded for him. its becoming harder and harder to admit to being a yanks fan. we are just fine with IPK and his 9.00 ERA. oh wait, i forgot- he attacked the zone better last outing, its all good
clay/joe: LMAO!
Is it just me or is this whole Thong thing just a little bit lame.. Grown men talking about the underwear they seems to me a wee bit unseemly…I guess the old adage “money doesn’t buy class” is alive and well
Isn’t today the 10 year anniversary of Wells’ perfect game?
bigpopp, your comment might make some sense if there had ever been a Santana-for-IPK deal on the table. But since there wasn’t, why?
and hughes and kennedy have a combined 17.0 ERA without a win.
heh.
as if you can judge the Santana trade by this one game.
BTW, I am rooting for the Yankees. Duh.
Jax et al. Let me say this immediately and up front. I didn’t want any part of Johan Santana from jump street for a variety of reasons, one being that I didn’t want Melky going anywhere. I also thought he was going into the back side of his career because his ERA had been steadily rising.
That said, I have never said Santana is not a good pitcher. He had always done well in the Stadium. So if he were to pitch a gem today if would not mean a hill of beans to me because he would have arrived at too high a cost for what we would have gotten.
Of course him giving up that homer is nothing but awesome JUST BECAUSE it helps to shut up the whiners who (I believe) obviously can’t see past either their noses or this season and haven’t gotten over the Yankees passing up “such a deal”.
(The FOX Saturday game was always blacked out on MLB tv in the past. I would be totally screwed during Saturday games and relegated to the radio. I’m not complaining, mind you.)
Live from the stadium. The girl 2 seats from me caught jetes hr
Andy has more strikeouts in 1 2/3rds innings than Wang had in all of 2006.
Pet is looking awesome.
WOW! GREAT JOB ANDY!
there was a santana for hughes, ipk and melky deal on the table. how has hughes been this season? do they have a combined 17 ERA? Ironically, the only reason not to do that was trade is now Melky
thats embarrassing
way to chase him giambi!
LOL I love switching the channel to SNY just to hear the commentators sad/choking up voices
Maybe Giambi should wear a bra instead of a thong? Victoria’s Secret has some nice things..
Or maybe the bra and thong together..
Come on Andy!
“its becoming harder and harder to admit to being a yanks fan.”
Ahh so you know how that feels? Good. I felt like that when some of your comments about Jeter got to the point of silliness.
“and hughes and kennedy have a combined 17.0 ERA without a win.
heh.
as if you can judge the Santana trade by this one game.
BTW, I am rooting for the Yankees. Duh.”
Um - you don’t add ERAs to combine them. You take a weighted average.
Also, comparing 21 and 23 yr old rookies making the minimum to a 29 year old making… um.. how much exactly?
Andy looking great.
Wow. Andy looks great. 6 outs recorded..5 K’s and a pickoff.
Let’s Go Yankees!
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Kevin
You know, I was kinda hoping Andy would strike out the side again!
But then, it’s not a Pettitte start without the pick off!
Thanks, bigpopp, you just answered any question I might have had about your baseball acumen.
Great shot by Jeter but Damon deserves a lot of credit for working the count and drawing that walk.
Why? Because that’s been a primary problem with the yankees offense this year.
The offense has been terrible this year - but for very skewed reasons.
The team is third in the AL in slugging percentage, fourth in adjusted OPS, and seventh in batting average.
With those numbers you’d expect the team to be scoring a decent number of runs. And given how bad the team has looked at the plate those numbers are very surprising to hear.
But despite the decent to good slugging %, OPS and BA the team is only 10th in the league in runs.
How does that work - 3rd in Slg %, 4th OPS, 7nth BA and only 10th in runs scored?
There are two reasons.
First the team is only 10th in on base percentage. This is the biggest difference between this year’s team and prior teams. It’s an enormous difference - they’re not getting on base because they are not drawing walks like they did last year.
The second reason - they are only 10th in the league with hitting with RISP.
That’s the problem with the offense - two related issues. The starting point is the fact that they aren’t getting enough guys on base - they’re making too many outs too quickly in games. They had a good write up on this on Bronx Banter.
And they’re not hitting when guys get on base.
Good to see Jeter hit another HR. But to do so with a guy on base makes an enormous difference.
http://bronxbanter.baseballtoaster.com/archives/985705.html#fold
Santana is at 26 pitches right now…and rising
Andy is @ 26 also…
“there was a santana for hughes, ipk and melky deal on the table. how has hughes been this season? do they have a combined 17 ERA? Ironically, the only reason not to do that was trade is now Melky”
Evaluate this in 6 years, not 6 weeks.
Fleas, did you happen to leave a comment in my blog the other day?
I know we have our disagreements, but I’d like to think that comment wasn’t you.
Yanks should have made the santana trade, thats my opinion. We wont know for a few years I guess who was right, but as of now its safe to say I am winning as IPK has been Igawa-esque and Hughes not much better.
“there was a santana for hughes, ipk and melky deal on the table.”
According to Heyman,
Hughes+Cabrera+Marquez+A level prospect
After Smith waffled/tried to get Red Sox involved and Pettitte resigned, that became Wang+Kennedy+Cabrera+Marquez+A level prospect
EXCELLENT spot for a hit and run.
Pettitte hasn’t lost to the Mets since the very first interleague game against the Mets in June of 1997.
Great game so far…let’s pad a lead and keep Santana throwing lots of pitches.
Rebecca, very cool meeting Pete…and then he recognizes you from the blog and then posts about it, great story.
Rebecca, I didn’t even know you had a blog.
“Um - you don’t add ERAs to combine them. You take a weighted average.”
I love this comment for so many reasons…
This game would be a lot more entertaining if Arod and Posada were in the lineup.
“Yanks should have made the santana trade, thats my opinion. We wont know for a few years I guess who was right, but as of now its safe to say I am winning as IPK has been Igawa-esque and Hughes not much better.”
In 6 years time, this non-trade can be fully evaluated.
1) How well does Santana do over the life of his contract?
2) How does Hughes do over the life of his pre-free agency years?
3) How does Melky do…?
4) How does Marquez do…?
5) Who do the Yankees end up signing next year with the money they would have been paying Santana? How does he do over the life of that contract?
It’s not a clear-cut decision “OMG, Kennedy and Hughes have sucked this year and Santana’s been decent, we should have made that trade OMG!”
Fleas,
Your blog looks just like the Yankees web site.
Fleas: Glad it wasn’t you. =)
Santana is now @38 pitches
Let’s go Andy!
And I forget:
6) Who would the Yankees have in Center Field today instead of Melky? Next year?
“In 6 years time, this non-trade can be fully evaluated.
1) How well does Santana do over the life of his contract?
2) How does Hughes do over the life of his pre-free agency years?
3) How does Melky do…?
4) How does Marquez do…?
5) Who do the Yankees end up signing next year with the money they would have been paying Santana? How does he do over the life of that contract?
It’s not a clear-cut decision “OMG, Kennedy and Hughes have sucked this year and Santana’s been decent, we should have made that trade OMG!”
That says it in a nutshell.
V-
what part of “we won’t know for a few years who was right” do you not understand?
Did anyone see The Office the other night? Very funny.
“they’re not getting on base because they are not drawing walks like they did last year.”
it doesn’t show up in the stats, but a by product of not walking much is not making other teams starters throw lot of pitches. by not wearing out the other teams starting pitchers the yankees are not getting to the soft middle relief every team has.
if they did, maybe their offense would have some better numbers, so ,yeah, it makes sense that not walking much is hurting the team a lot.
““they’re not getting on base because they are not drawing walks like they did last year.”
it doesn’t show up in the stats, but a by product of not walking much is not making other teams starters throw lot of pitches. by not wearing out the other teams starting pitchers the yankees are not getting to the soft middle relief every team has.
if they did, maybe their offense would have some better numbers, so ,yeah, it makes sense that not walking much is hurting the team a lot.”
This is an excellent point, randy. I’d be interested in seeing what this team’s stats are against SPs, middle relievers, and closers this year.
“Rebecca, I didn’t even know you had a blog.”
If I was a prosecutor, I would have fun with that comment.
Mr. Fleas, do you expect this court and this jury to actually believe that you had absolutely no idea that Rebecca had a blog?? I would have a smirk on my face while asking the question.
Nice shot at the new stadium.
NO WAY IN HELL WAS HE OUT!
Well someone left me a comment on my blog calling me something I won’t repeat here.
And Damon should have totally been safe. Okay, so he was out, but still, nice hitting by Bobby.
HE WAS SAFE!!!!!!
oh snap, didn’t realize the Mets SNY broadcast is on as well. I for one am suffering from Kay fatigue and will be watching it, if only for the chance to hear non YES broadcasters’ take on things not named Joe Morgan, Joe Buck or ecch Dick Stockton.
Bad call by Meacham. Would have been 2nd and 3rd and no outs and Derek up. Should have held Damon.
randy,
Completely agree with your point on the walks and not running up pith counts. It becomes a sort of vicious cycle.
One other outside factor that may also come into play - the pitching in the AL East is much better than it has been in the past. And the yanks have played the AL East a lot so far.
In particular, Tampa has now developed a staff that has several very good control pitchers (Shields and Sonnanstine in particular and Jackson has been much better with his control). Baltimore also has better control pitching (Daniel Cabrera in particular)
Bad Call
That call was absolute garbage - his foot hit the bag.
Kenneth Keith Kallenbach posts here??? Wow! Pete was right, this blog has readers from all over the map.
can they fire Bobby Meacham! bring up Luis Sojo again
v
i’m really big on pitch count. it’s like in boxing( a long ago sport people used to watch) where a boxer wears down an opponent with body punching to knock him out in a later round.
the yankees used to be really good at this. it started when boggs was on the yankees and has been passed down ever since. for the first time in a long time we’re seeing a yankee team that’s not making the other team have a high pitch count.
i don’t know what the correlation between which team has the highest pitch count in a game and who wins, but it must favor the team that throws the least pitches.
no more game for me, sister’s graduation, hope I come back to see they won! enjoy watching.
No really Kay of course the new stadium is bigger then the current one. How does he not know that?
That was disappointing
If anyone here believes that the Santana freaks wouldn’t be flipping out all over this forum if the Yankees were losing and Santana was pitching a gem, and wouldn’t be SCREAMING “See! See! See!” -
I have some nice land under water for you in Florida.
Too easy for them to say that one game doesn’t mean anything. If one game doesn’t mean anything you wouldn’t be crying the same old tired tune every single time you open your mouths.
Meacham doesn’t seem to be as good as Larry Bowa. Imagine if Hank comes in to the locker room after the game and sends him down to Charleston?
first of all, he was out and it was a good call. second of all, that waw AWFUL job by meacham
I don’t have a problem with Damon running there. It’s not like he was running on Guerrero’s or Melky’s or Ichiro’s arm. Just a really, really good play from Schneider.
on schedule, the ole’ bible thumper is due for his 4th inning implosion
I do not have the game was Damon safe or out?? the truth, please
Two bloop singles is hardly a massacre. Calm down anti.
“Meacham doesn’t seem to be as good as Larry Bowa. Imagine if Hank comes in to the locker room after the game and sends him down to Charleston?”
For all you kids in the audience, George sent Meacham down to A or AA after committing an error during a game in the 80’s.
Ok. GET DAMON OUT OF LEFT FIELD.
Okay, I honestly think I have a better throwing arm than Johnny Damon.
That was an automatic out at the plate for a decent OF.
Can we get someone else to pitch the fourth and fifth? Please? And then put Pettitte back in later?
Seriously, this is really bothering me.
Why does Pettitte always fall apart in the 4th and 5th innings?
It’s a trend now.
This is getting to be a bad pattern with Andy. Lights out for three innings and then he starts to struggle. Here goes the lead.
The Andy Pettitte Meltdown Tour continues
how is it meacham’s fault pettite has given up 3 hits this inning?
That’s some arm Damon.
Rebecca, and that’s just what they were talking about on the pregame.
Who knows if he now has the Ted Lily 5th inning jitters…
“the ole’ bible thumper”
Is that a bad thing?
Bloop single, bloop single, bleeder. That’s not falling apart.
That was not a bad send by Meacham.
Any time it takes an absolutely perfect set of throws to get the runner at home (and just barely at that) it was the right decision.
The teams not scoring runs. Everyone wants them to be more aggressive and creative.
Can’t have it both ways. You have to put pressure on the defense to make a perfect play even if there are no outs.
Clay- I find it offensive, yes
“I do not have the game was Damon safe or out?? the truth, please”
Very, very close. Schneider’s foot blocked the plate very well and may have lifted Damon’s foot before it hit the plate. Extremely close. Whichever fans were on the losing end of it would complain. Tough call.
Damon was out - but why the heck did meacham send him? he is not a freaking speed demon and there were no outs - you have to believe he could have gotten home another way
Is ‘has an absolutely garbage arm that gives up free bases’ a defensive statistic? Damon’s arm has to be considered when evaluating his defense.
Okay - lots of positive energy in Andy’s direction. Let’s get him out of this inning. Maybe it will break the bad mojo.
Ugh.
get out of this Andy
That was a four letter word from Moises right there…he might want to be a little more careful, there are children watching
Not falling apart but it certainly goes down hill in the 4th and 5th innings.
guess that walk to load the bases was meacham’s fault too…
That was a bad pitch. You can’t walk the bases loaded with no outs.
Big trouble now. Bases loaded and no out. That 3rd Yankee run would have helped now.
I should say the “Coors Light freeze frame” on YES showed him out…
I have to go. Remember, good positive thoughts everyone.
Sure, it took a perfect relay for Damon to be out at home, but had he held at third, it’s 2nd and 3rd with no outs. Seems as though he should have stayed.
ugh - how did I go from so happy to so annoyed so quickly
“This is getting to be a bad pattern with Andy. Lights out for three innings and then he starts to struggle. ”
The most concerning part of what’s happening with Andy is that it seems like the hitters are just figuring out Andy the second time through the order.
It’s as if he baffles them the first time through and then they just figure out what Andy’s throwing, what his approach is and hitting him very hard.
We lost?
That’s almost funny. The last thing on my mind is that we will lose this game! This is one inning!!!
If Damon weren’t sent, would Jeter’s line drive have scored him? No. Matsui’s weak grounder? Not if the infield were in. Obviously, they wouldn’t necessarily have been pitched the same or approached the AB the same, but the point stands.
This team has struggled to score runs, even with guys on 3rd and no outs. You take chances when you’re struggling like that.
he can do this - let’s go…a K would be good right about no
wow, 20 yrs ago being a Yankee fan was the pits with the Mets being the toast of the town, I hated Ron Darling and Keith Hernandez with a passion only if because my friends who were Mets fans would rub it in our faces. But fast forward 20 yrs I concede you SNY boys are superior to my YES announcers in all facets.
I might just relent and catch a Mets game if only for some sorley missed cohesive coherent play by play and color.
With that said, c’mon Andy shut em down…dp time!
OK - but the balls must end
see? told you we lost.
Ugh. Why so many balls?
Santana has -not- been lights out, and the Mets middle relief is garbage. This game ain’t over til Wagner’s in.
This team has failed to score a runner from 3rd with less than two outs several times this year.
They’ve been terrible with RISP.
I wouldn’t assume that they would have been able to score a run there with 2nd and 3rd and no outs. Remember - its Santan on the mound - very good strike out pitcher.
The team has been so bad with RISP I can understand why Meacham would want to force the Mets into making a perfect throw.
And Meacham has no control over andy suddenly falling apart.
BIG STRIKEOUT.
Anti-Mussina:
Please stop posting on the blog. I tried to e-mail and you made up your e-mail address. You’ve violated the TOS here with assorted profane comments, personal attacks, etc.
Go to another blog or whatever. I don’t want this blog to become bogged down with comments of the sort you make.
Nothing personal, we just have standards.
Thanks.
if andy gets out of this I can see him cruising through the next 3 IP
pettitte need to invest in the first strike philosophy
That looked like a strike..
V- thats a strike on a 3-2 count only
Thank you Pete!
Edwar warming .. do I need to laugh now? Man Please.
Edwar Ramirez warming up?
ugh
Blegh. He’s getting too cute with 3-2 counts…
..and since when does ordering pizza online from papa johns cost 40.00!!!!!
just a terri