Game 44: Mets at Yankees
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- May
- 18
YANKEES
Damon LF
Abreu RF
Jeter SS
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Gonzalez 3B
Molina C
Wang RHP
METS
Reyes SS
Anderson LF
Wright 3B
Beltran CF
Church RF
Alou DH
Delgado 1B
Schneider C
Castillo 2B
Perez LHP
Oliver Perez (3-3, 4.61) vs. the Yankees hitters
Chien-Ming Wang (6-1, 2.90) vs. the Mets hitters.
Notes: Wang struck out a career-high 10 against the Mets last June 17. … The Yankees have scored 10 runs in their last five games and hit .211 (35 of 166). … Cano has hit safely in 10 of the last 11 games at 15 of 41 (.366). … Matsui is 3 of his last 25 with one RBI. … Joba Chamberlain has allowed four runs on four hits and four walks in his last six innings.
UPDATE, 7:25 p.m.: Just talked to Jorge Posada. He caught Ian Kennedy in the bullpen today, the first time he has done that since going on the DL. He said his sore shoulder is feeling better. He’s also into a throwing program. Today he made 20 throws from 75 feet and 20 more from 90 feet.
He hopes to start a rehab assignment a week from tomorrow or a week from Tuesday, somewhere in that time frame.
Posada is a real no-excuses, bottom-line kind of guy. I asked him about the team needing him back and he said that they should be scoring runs even with he and A-Rod out. “We still have a good lineup,” he said.
UPDATE, 8:12 p.m.: Might be time for a pop-up drill for the Attorney General. He gets an error for prolonging the at-bat.
UPDATE, 8:49 p.m.: The Wanger is burying the Mets with that sinker. Nine up, nine down, seven grounders.
Forget to mention this before but Jeff Karstens is pitching for Scranton tomorrow.
UPDATE, 9:09 p.m.: This is an Andy Pettitte special by CMW. He was dominating for three innings then suddenly lost it. 3-0 must look like Mt. Everest with Oliver Perez throwing a no-hitter.
UPDATE, 9:15 p.m.: Wang isn’t pitching well at all in this inning. But the defense has been awful. Gonzalez has to make that play on David Wright and Giambi obviously made a bad throw. By rights they should be out of the inning.
UPDATE, 9;22 p.m.: I really like Jose Reyes. But that’s a terrible at-bat. Wang walks the No. 9 hitter to load the bases and you swing at the first pitch?
4-0 Mets. Might as well be 40-0 the way the Yankees are playing. They have scored 10 runs in their last 54 innings.
UPDATE, 9:27 p.m.: Hey, it’s Hideki Matsui. Godzilla just snapped a 3 for 26 skid with a two-run homer to right. Maybe the Yankees have a little life after all. It is Oliver Perez, after all.
UPDATE, 9:53 p.m.: They’re 0 for 6 with RISP. 12 of 70 over the last six games.
Meanwhile, the Yankees have totally botched the whole “Yankee Stadium Countdown” thing. The had some guy introduced as the “Yankees’ No. 1 fan from Rochester” pull the lever tonight. Nice job, Yankees-Mets on ESPN Sunday night and they’re pulling people out of the stands.
The promotion is totally disorganized. They just get whoever happens to be around. There are so many ways they could have done it right, too.
UPDATE, 10:44 p.m.: Joe Girardi is obviously not getting fired. But clearly his tenure has hit some rocks. The Yankees are en route to their eighth loss in 11 games (five out six) and they have scored 12 runs in their last 59 innings.
You can’t pin this all on A-Rod and Posada being out. The Yankees aren’t playing with much passion and really haven’t all season except for a game here or there.
UPDATE, 11:05 p.m.: Two runs on three hits against Oliver Perez and a couple of second-tier relievers. The Yankees didn’t get a hit after the sixth inning.
Back later with some reaction.
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From the last thread—
If you guys want updates from someone at the game (regarding weather or any fun stuff), send me an email with a phone number to text rebecca@puristbleedspinstripes.com
I don’t have enough memory on my phone to load LoHud directly, but I can load radar and whatnot.
Mike Franceca predicts Johan Santana to dominate.oo wait er late to that party. well mike francesca still predicts pain.!!!
I like this lineup the best!
Here’s to a win by Wanger tonight!
If Joba and Matsui have joinded the slumping wagon, we’re in deep trouble.
Francesa argued you can’t put Joba in the rotation because he’s never going to be as good a starter as he is a reliever.
Well right now Joba has a starters era that is 2.95. So Joba can’t duplicate that as a starter?
Did anyone realistically think that Joba was going to have a .00 era his entire career?
Its a shame that the Yankees with all their money can’t have a stadium with a roof.
Albany Yankee: The rain’s cleared out…you should head down.
Going to head out in about twenty—hope everyone enjoys the game! It’ll be my first time seeing Wang pitch so I’m stoked. LET’S GO YANKEES!
With all the money being spent on 2 stadiums in NYC, neither will have a roof?
Jenn let it go…..
P.S. I really don’t have to hear Suzyn Waldman pplay GM on WFAN seriously who the hell does this woman think she is..she faint and flounder on Clemens trimuphant return to George’s box but is now coming w/ her why would they put Joba in the rotation, there is no need for that, oh and dissing Hank trust me child ain’t the way to go, I also laughed when Beningo said the great radio broadcast team of Sterling and Waldman, the only thing great about them are the postgame interviews
Are fans that clueless? Randy Johnson was Cashman’s idea? Really!
I hate domes, I am glad no roof! seems like indoor baseball and not real baseball, players don’t like it either
i meant arena baseball
I heard someone rip the Weaver deal and bring the David Ortiz arguement. It’s great being a bandwagon.
Brandon let what go?
I am very confused. What am I missing here?
Did anyone realistically think that Joba was going to have a .00 era his entire career?
“Are fans that clueless?”
Yeah, they are. The problem is that the people who are supposed to know better (hosts of talk radio, say), never bother to correct them because angry lambasting of Cash draws more listeners.
Rationally arguing that his hand was forced by George on a number of bad deals doesn’t keep the listeners flowing in.
Oh great Joe Morgan and Jon Miller and doing the game. To mute or not to mute that is the question.
I am referring back to your comment on Mike F.
predict Morgan’s next goof…
will he
A. say Johnny Damon is on a tear
B. say Bobby Abreu is one of the best RF in baseball
C. say the Yankees 1B Jason Giambi is starting to break out of his slump
D. All of the above
I’ve got my finger ready to hit the mute button, Jennifer. I can’t listen to Morgan.
“I heard someone rip the Weaver deal”
it’s really easy to notice deals that turned out poorly after the fact.
He was young, and his peripherals looked pretty good. He didn’t K as many guys as you’d like to see, but he didn’t walk many and didn’t give up too many hits. His K rate rose and his walk rate dropped after the deal. I dunno…was the walk-rate between 5 and 6 something that should have warned? He still sported a K:BB between 2 and 3, which is solid. I didn’t watch baseball back then, so I don’t know if he was the kind of guy who just blew up in NY once things started to unravel a bit.
Morgan and Miller should call themselves: Mistaken & Yankee Hatin’ because Morgan is usually factually wrong and Miller constantly tweaks the Yankees by comparing to the Red Sox.
Good point Whozat. I’m growing weary of listening to talk radio. Fans are maddening.
Giambi’s rates for May:
.404 .583 .250
I’d take that for the remainder of the season in a HEARTBEAT out of Jason.
“I’m growing weary of listening to talk radio. Fans are maddening.”
Find a music station you like instead
Whozat – I remember the Weaver deal. It was a three team trade with Oakland, as I recall. Yanks gave up Ted Lilly to Oakland, and got Weaver. At the time it was widely regarded as a real coup for Cashman, getting one of the – at the time – hot young pitchers in all of baseball.
Never quite worked out, and we all remember that HR he gave up in the WS against Florida in the 12th (?) inning. He was dealt in that off-season for Kevin Brown, who the newly signed Gary Sheffield told George was the best pitcher in the NL.
The rest in history.
A roof on the joint doesn’t necessarily mean a dome. The Seattle field for example—This ain’t the seventies anymore, thank the lord. Even when that place is covered it still feels basebally. But if you want to keep the new Yankee Stadium evocative of the old one, an opening and closing roof is a tough architectural trick indeed. I would’ve gone with a giant Top Hat, classy and broadwayish, that covers the parking lot on sunny days, so as to keep the interior of the cars cool, and when it rains, the hat moves up into position, suspended 60 yards or so, above the stadium so as to still let the clouds and inclemency be seen and heard, but not felt.
Would also like to thank the the select and excellent commentators who on a previous thread did a wonderful job of letting us know how the minors were shaping up.
Please do not criticize Joe Morgan.
I would be ignoring everything I know about broadcasting if I didn’t speak up.
uh oh LeBron is heating up
I can’t find the probable pitchers on the Yankees site, who is pitching against us this week?
Joe from Long Island—
I had an email I sent to a friend criticizing the Lilly-Weaver deal the day it happened that I saved for a few years so I’d be able to prove my point someday (I was against it, she was for it), but it was on the hard drive of a computer that died suddenly, so now I just look like 20/20 hindsighter. Oh well. And yes, saving an email that long just to prove a point like that does make me a loser. I know.
Brandon—Spurs or Hornets tomorrow?
as far as joe morgan goes, to try to avoid controversy tonight, i suggest we keep tabs on the facts that morgan makes a mistake on , but at the same time keep track of the insights he makes about actually about playing the game. things like an outfielder positioning himself to throw, a hitter letting go of the bat too soon with one hand and having the bat head drop and then” helicopter” over his head ( arod sometimes), or other such observation about actually playing the game.
i respectfully say that some who rightly so say morgan makes factual mistakes have trouble understanding him when he talks about playing the game because they have played so little actual baseball. it’s them and not morgan who doesn’t understand something.
younger generations are more knowledgeable about facts and are of course more computer literate, but not as knowledgeable about playing the game because they simply haven’t played much. this isn’t a matter of one generation being better than the other.
the real strength is putting the two together. that said i would like to see a third analyst added to the booth who’s strong on analysis and facts. but to bash morgan with all he has done in the game and knows about the game is really kind of unnecessary and kind of silly .
to keep focus on the game,that’s all i’m going to say about this until after the game when morgan’s plusses and minuses can be added up.
The fact that neither Shelley or Ensberg are in the lineup verses a medicore lefty speaks volumes about their Yankee future.
I also remember the 3-way deal in 2002 that netted the Yankees Jeff Weaver. At that time, virtually every newspaper and every sportswriter came out with the phrase that “The Yankees just insured themselves another World Championship”. Betcha you can’t get more than 10 percent of those second guessers to admit they said that!
BTW, Oakland gave up a lefty 1st basemen, Carlos Pena, Franklyn German, and a young player to be named later – Jeremy Bonderman – to the Tigers for Weaver and subsequently sent him to NY for Lilly and John Ford Griffin.
Skippy I don’t bet against Chris Paul
nick in sf-
i’m not commenting, but i have to admit , i want to. lol.
after the game.
joe morgan as a baseball player: best 2B of all time
joe morgan as an analyst:
stupid auto-smiley-face-turning thingy
I loved the Weaver deal at the time. I can’t knock him on that. The Brown trade baffled me though.
However, blanketly saying Cashman is great right now and anyone who disagrees is stupid is just stupid.
He’s done a poor job assembling the 2008 team. You can preach to me all you want about how we’re gonna kick butt in 2 years, but until ANY of those prospects you are all counting on pan out, you have nothing to base your argument on.
My argument is based on fact. He went into this season with Giambi at 1b and no legit backup plan for that, other than a OF and 3b to play 1st.
He went into the season counting on 2/5 of his rotation on rookies with innings limits who hadn’t even thrown 100 major league innings yet.
He believed Igawa was a good backup plan for said rookies.
He gave Cano financial security before he should have in my opinion. And don’t call me out on this. Stick Michael has said the same thing about the players on this team with financial security not having the same drive as the one’s without.
I could go on, but it’s pointless. All of you people criticizing fans for saying Cashman has done a poor job this year have blinders on.
You seem to buy into his “wait until 2010” plan. I hope by then 1 out of every 10 prospects he and you are counting on turn out to be good major leaguers, otherwise this team is cooked for a long time.
I still think he can fix the team this season, but I feel like he’s terrified of releasing guys or trading prospects because if they do better in another organization it makes him look stupid.
maybe Gonzalez can show something, he knows his days are limited now with AROD coming back Tues
ESPN game=booooooooooooo
The mute button will be my friend tonight
Chris Paul is just a joy to watch. Really hope NO wins.
randy l.: for the record, I don’t even mind Morgan so much, and sometimes I enjoy him. When he says things that I think are silly/wrong, I laugh it off. But if people who don’t like him so much as a broadcaster want to criticize him, that doesn’t make them bad people or ignornant of his place in baseball history or, ahem, racists.
Also, if Morgan’s commentary can really only be understood by people who have played real baseball, he’s not doing a very good job as an analyst, is he? He’s supposed to be using his insights as someone who played at the highest level to explain the intricacies of the game to those of us who haven’t. And I think he often does a good job at that, which is why I find it pretty easy to overlook the goofiness and the little mistakes.
Also, I think Jon Miller is one of the best in the business, so I don’t mind if he seems to tweak the Yanks or even, gasp, praise the Red Sox.
wow James vs Pierce right now
Cleveland looks like they’re one player away and I wish that player could be Kei Igawa.
For me, when the game is on ESPN, it’s not enjoyable because it’s not Yankee-oriented, which is not necessarily to say that it’s not pro-Yankee, but it’s a little too skewed negatively in order to be “unbiased.” If you get my drift.
I don’t like Miller. I have less of a hard time with Joe Morgan, but he’s inconsistent. As has been stated here, he can be mistaken on a lot of things, but his insight can also be invaluable.
If I felt that the anti-Yankee commentary was just unbiased commentary, I could take it – the Yankees are not perfect (at least not this season), but it feels malicious in my bones. Like people take pleasure in the travails of the Yankees, because even when the Yankees are doing well, during an ESPN broadcast you can be sure they will bring up something negative (even if it’s old, old news).
I will probably flip the game on and off tonight, because it is not an enjoyable experience when the game is on ESPN. I could tune in the radio, I guess, but I still haven’t figured out if I have a radio tuner on my upstairs television set-up. (I know, how stupid is that???)
Hopefully, they’ll get the game in – or, rather, hopefully the weather will abate, because it’s been miserable all day. We just had a downpour here in central NJ. I have a feeling they’re going to want to get this one in, because of the rainout of Friday’s game and, really, when could they make it up? I just don’t want anyone getting hurt because no one wants to play a couple of doubleheaders in a week or play 31 straight games (if they Mets play tomorrow).
I apologize that sometimes I must sound like I’m running off at the mouth.
LeBron is going WITNESS on Boston right now
awesome NBA game, go Lebron!
I find myself rooting for the Celtics b/c Garnett seems like a good guy.
And then I realize a bunch of mouthbreathing knuckleheads with “B” on the lids will be happy.
Quite the conundrum.
“i respectfully say that some who rightly so say morgan makes factual mistakes have trouble understanding him when he talks about playing the game because they have played so little actual baseball. it’s them and not morgan who doesn’t understand something.”
That’s not respectful at all. You’re basically saying that I don’t understand what Morgan’s saying half the time, so I’m too dumb to appreciate him. You’re wrong. The mechanics stuff is really not intellectually profound if you understand anatomy and physics—and Singleton and Flaherty provide the same insight. I may not have heard a particular statement about a particular player before, but I certainly understand him when he speaks.
And it certainly doesn’t excuse him for not bothering to do his job by making sure that he knows who the players are in front of him and current information about them.
But hey, thanks for baselessly insulting my intelligence.
oH goD sTeVe dA kOoKy mEtS fAn..JoE sMiTh iS bEttEr ThAn JoBa, aLsO bLeW oUt 5 ArMs iN FloRiDa …
aLsO gIRaRdI bLeW oUt 5 ArMs iN FloRiDa … *
God bless Steve. I think his stay in Bellevue will be a long one.
WITNESS !!!
Now we got us a game! Cleveland within 1.
holy LeBron
Brandon,
can u believe this game?
......
bad time to miss a 3, Lebron!
what a jumpshot!
dammit I hate that basterd !@
I could never root for the Celtics, thye have P.J Brown, I will never forget what a punk he is and was against the Knicks when he was in Miami.
oh god, damn Boston!
PJ Brown, I feel like it’s the 1997 playoffs. They should check to see if he has Charlie Ward in his back pocket.
tick tock
he didn’t call the time out before the wrap up !
I can’t believe James did that ?
P.J. Brown is a thug.
oh boy
nick in sf-
to carry your line of thinking further, if people could be experts on( and comment) only on what they have experienced , than gene michael could only talk about playing shortstop and jeter coudn’t talk about pitching.
or that ricky peterson couldn’t be an expert on pitchers who are all better than he was.
we know this isn’t how it works. of course people expand beyond just what they have experienced. i’m just saying there’s a disconnect when the experience of someone is really marginal and he or she become an “expert” simply because he or she is extremely smart.
there are a lot of kinds of “smart”. i’m honestly not impressed with bill james kind of “smart” when it’s applied to baseball. but i don’t totally discount it either because i like numbers.
my overall feeling is whatever gets people interested in the game is a good thing.
good series LeBron it’s not your fault your stuck w/ bums
So I guess I will now become a Pistons fan for the next couple of days
randy l, that wasn’t actually my line of thinking at all.
My friend is at the stadium, saw t-shirts that said
“I don’t brake for Sox fans”
Mike O’Phoni was on ESPN…this is just a disaster waiting to unfold
I read in Japanese sports papers that Matsui admitted his bat was getting cold. I thought Girardi would bench him ‘cause a lefty is pitching today.
GO PISTONS!!!
Whenever something like this happens, I can only assume that there is a nastier fate wating to break the hearts of Boston fans. Like maybe a game 7 with the Celtics leading by two points at home, with 8 seconds on the shot clock, and the Pistons pull off a three-pointer with one second remaining in the game.
Today’s good news from my perspective. It is definitively appearing, at least according to today’s face-up penny, that Yankees will take tonight’s game. I actually had to wait to see the score of the Celtics game because had the Cavs won, I would have thought it was possible that the penny was indicating THAT good luck. (Not that it would have meant bad luck for the Yanks of course.)
GO YANKEES!!
GO PENNY!!!
I won’t ever tell you if I find a coin face down, and I won’t always tell you when I find a coin face up. Again I don’t find coins before each and every game. But geeze after all the lousy things that happened today concerning teams from that tiny little provincial city in the northeast, I figured it wouldn’t hurt to think we at least have a penny on our side!
last time Andy Pettitte went winless in 5 starts 1996….hmmm
I really liked Kevin Garnett, always hoped he would land with the Knicks, Ray Allan too. Can’t root for them now. Go Pistons.
Trisha – the face up penny is a good sign to me. I really think that the Yankees and Wang should be able to beat Perez. The Yanks really do have to have patient at bats against him as he tends to have wild streaks.
Brandon –
Looking for omens????
Fran, I don’t know enough about the Mets pitching to know what to expect (although we know we can’t always count on anything when it comes to the dynamic bats of the Yanks!... Of the active starters the Mets have in their rotation, exactly how is Perez as a pitcher? Of their 1-5, where would he rank?
G. Love:
I agree with many of your points about Cashman. His most important contributions to the NYY Organization has been his realignment of the scouting system and the rebuilding of the Minor League organizaton. His success in obtaining role players and long/short relief pitchers, (particulary from the left side) for the past two years has been dismal.
One of the biggest cardinal sins was going into 2008 with two unproven rookies (Hughes and Kennedy) who haved logged less than 85 innings pitched at the MLB level – especially when your Team payroll is +200 Million and your Goal is the Post Season and World Championship! Maybe the Twins wanted too much for Santana, but there had to be other deals for solid, experienced starters that Cashman could have pulled off.
And the first base situation – especially defensively – is beyond stupid!
Doreen and Brandon, that’s the kind of thing that of course lets me know that, well you know.
Ray Allen’s a butt. He’s been a ghost all season long. I can see the Pistons stealing one in Boston.
Something must be in the water. Daisuke and the Celtics keep escaping trouble…
“to carry your line of thinking further, if people could be experts on( and comment) only on what they have experienced , than gene michael could only talk about playing shortstop and jeter coudn’t talk about pitching.”
?? That’s not what his line of thinking was. Nick said that he thinks most people DO get what Morgan says. You’re the one who thinks that we don’t. If you’re right, then Morgan’s still doing a bad job…since he’s SUPPOSED to express himself so that fans (and not only ex-players) can understand.
I think that Morgan does just fine when he’s talking hitting mechanics. I find it easy to understand what he’s saying, partly because I’ve heard a lot of it before from many other analysts, and partly because it’s all pretty simple physics and anatomy. I just consider it inexcusable that the man can’t be bothered to do his job. I mean, he’s just the lead analyst on the biggest national sports network in the country…is it too much to ask for him to read the briefings about the players in front of him that I’m SURE somebody prepared for him?
Anyone know why the Jays brought in Halladay as a reliever?
Halladay pitching in relief…
Since I absolutely stink at predicting actual game details, I guess I’ll give us something to laugh at!! Okay, tonight’s offensive hero will be Robby Cano.
GO ROBBY!
Jennifer,
Looks like Marcum only went one, Camp went 4, and some other guys patched up the rest.
Probably his regular throwing day.
not good for Lebron to walk off court right after game and not congratulate Celtics, looks bad
Trisha – probably #3 now, but if Pedro was there probably #4. He is a lefty but he is very erratic. I dropeed him from my fantast team because he was loosing points. He tends to loose focus easily.
In fact the Yankees are going to tear the cover off the ball. The final score will be 12-1.
RISP? You’ve never seen so many ribbies with RISP. In fact if there are any homers, it probably won’t be more than 2.
Uh, I guess that’s it for now!
so much for the slump Gardner in game 2 took SJ’s words to heart
Brett Gardner 1 for 2, 2R, 1 HR, SB, BB
BTW it was off a LHP
Jason Lane was 3 for 4 w/ a HR
Justin Christian 2 for 3, 2 R, 1 HR, SB
Patterson 1 IP, w/ a K no hits
Marquez was so and so…until later peoples
mel I just checked their site, there was a rain delay. Good for me and my fantasy team.
Trisha.
We can all agree that no one would pay a penny for your thoughts….
-dennis
“but there had to be other deals for solid, experienced starters that Cashman could have pulled off.”
Who dealt solid experienced starters this offseason? Did you see ANY change hands?
Carlos Silva was pretty much who was available as an FA, and he required a 4 year deal. Randy l LOVES Livan Hernandez, but he’s got a K rate under 3 and a WHIP over 1.4 He’s getting lucky, and the other shoe is going to drop SOON.
Yeah, Cash could have overpaid for another veteran starter that would have sat in the rotation being mediocre for several more years. Why? All that’d do would keep the train rolling along like it has been…an old, expensive team that can’t get over the hump.
“Anyone know why the Jays brought in Halladay as a reliever?”
Mik Francesa said he would be more effective there
Dennis –
He he he! That may very well be true.
So all I can say is thank heavens for blogs!
From newsday blog
Great news on Jorge!!
Say, what happened to last year’s squirrels?
Blargh – I think Ortiz ate them!
Thanks for taking it as a joke.
Good Luck to CMW this eve.
Have a good night.
-dennis
Jennifer – thanks for that post. With Alex probably back on Tuesday and Jorge in the next couple of weeks things are starting to look up.
I really think that we will go on a tear starting tonight! We play today we win today dats it!!
Alex will come back Tuesday and give the team a huge boost!!
Can’t wait till we get back Jorge and Alex.
Just hope we can get a win tonight.
Dennis – thanks for being a good sport. I have to tell you in all sincerity that the one reason I hate that a few of you guys are here more than anything is because you are always so respectful, and it bothers me on some level to be so demeaning to your city and your teams because it seems disrespectful to you guys. But I can’t allow that to inhibit me. I hope you understand it is all part of the rivalry. Some of my best friends (and family members) are S_X fans.
The Yanks definitely need the squirrel back. Man, did I love that little critter.
dontfire, yeah but don’t you see how much better it is going to be when they finally do return? It would be so anticlimatic to have them here now. You build up to it and then, when almost all feels lost to so many (not yours truly of course…) – onto the field comes a squirrel!
Oh it will be so worth the wait.
Brandon, we missed you yesterday with your Santana HR counter. Had you been here updating live it may have alleviated the sting of our loss. Good to have you back.
Here’s for win # 7 for Wang tonight!!! If we can get 4 runs off of Santana we should be able to scrap 4 runs from Perez and that will be all Wang needs tonight.
I’m watching 48 hours. I can’t bring myself to watch Baseball Tonight for at least four reasons – one of them Yankee and three Sux…
I see Peter Gammons isn’t holding his big Red Sox umbrella, so is it safe to say that the game should start reasonably close to on time as far as we know?
I just figure…clowns to the left of me, jokers to the right…
I am stuck in the middle. I can’t hate as much I love the Sox.
-dennis
hhhhmm Top 10 UFO encounters on Dateline…that’ll do until the game
Yes, with our starting pitching being SO reliable, we need to keep Joba in the ‘pen…..MORONS !....IPK is no MLB pitcher right now…Andy is struggling as of late, ....Rasner is doing well, but to expect that to continue is not responsible….There are arms in the minors that COULD do well but are mostly untested. Joba to the rotation relatively soon is a No-Brainer. Go out and BUY an 8th inning guy, Hank ! ( and sign Mark T. while you’re at it ! )
Think it’s pretty safe to say- ESPN is like a Yankee hater. Point blank. So it looks like Hank was right when he made that “Red Sux Nation” comment. Completly Bias.
Can’t wait till we prove them wrong and we win. What’s gonna happen if Boston becomes second class like they use to?
Another Boston sweep, another Yankee loss. WOW. I don’t think the word SWEEP is even in the Yanks vocab this year.
Here’s the move, get two tv’s in the living room. That way I watch something with the wife on the main tv and on the 2nd tv I have the game without any sound. That’s my plan.
Whoopie, A Rod coming back to leave more runners stranded. Do we have any good pitching on the DL or returning to our team? How does one pay someone $15 plus million and has more homers than singles? Our belvoed Yankees. Hopefully Wang will give up 1 or less tonight for us to have a chance to win
did you all see what happened to Cliff Lee today? wow!
Two key misses for Cashman this offseason which cut twice as deep as Theo pulled the trigger on both:
1. Sean Casey – hitting close to .300 and a great clubhouse team player,
2. Bartolo Colon – low risk insurance policy who will make his first start Wednesday.
Russ M,
sure it is, we get swept!
JeffNJ –
You are a good guy!
Or pick up someone’s $16 million option that is afraid of walls and balls hit to them. Answer: Our beloved Yankees.
” Randy l LOVES Livan Hernandez, but he’s got a K rate under 3 and a WHIP over 1.4 He’s getting lucky, and the other shoe is going to drop SOON.”
whozat-
i like how he balances out the young pitchers that the twins have. i like his innings, and i like how he makes almost all his starts each year.
i also like his 6 wins so far, though he just lost at colorado giving up 3 runs in 7 innings.
good thing he doesn’t know he is supposed to suck because his k rate says he should.
I would take Lee over Pettitte, Kennedy, Igawa, Mussina, Rasner, Hughes in a heartbeat
and what if Arod comes back and stinks up the place? then what? all the pressure is on Jorge for his return? we can’t keep depending on that when the others are just simply not accountable for much at all.
Russ M,
well, we’ll see what ends up the final word on Cliff Lee. He was a bust last season, and well obviously this season we know the deal, but today he was shelled! Good pitcher qualifies for all season, at least in my book: or god, at this point I’d be jumping for joy if Igawa sucked all season in AAA and then all the sudden rescued us in the ALDS!
Bold prediction – by the ime the Yankees play the Mets next month they will be in second place in the division (down by two games) and leading the wild card race.
This to me is the weakest stretch of the schedule and with Arod back, Posada hopefully to follow in the not to distant future, it is time to make a move.
Okay espn is too busy wishing people happy birthday to show us the Yankee game.
I still say we should give Boomer a try!
jason –
I like your bold prediction and don’t think it’s so bold at all actually!
Careful, if you disagree with Russ M too often, he’s likely to pull the c word out of extensive crass vocabulary, and throw it in your direction.
“Meet the Mets” is really a dumb song!
What the heck was that cheesy Mets/Yankees crap?
Here we go again, my hatred for Joe Morgan
I know it’s not even June but the Yankees need to start winning. Sooner or later the Sox are going to go on a run. May have already started by sweeping the Brewers.
Okay, Miller has annoyed me already, lol.
I’m not a fan of thinly disguised schadenfreude.
did joe just pick wang to win the Cy Young?
JOE MORGAN IS A GREAT AMERICAN HERO!!!!!
I HATE ESPN GAMES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh, God – here comes Gammons. Let’s see how long it takes him to mention the Crock Sox.
Did you know Joe Morgan is a Hall of Famer?
Man, it looks incredible down there. Thanks, accuweather.com. Why do I ever trust the weather people? I can’t believe I’m going to miss this game. Stupid, stupid, stupid.
You didn’t go because you trusted a web weather forecast?
Ack.
I saw CM walking in from the bullpen, facing the sold-out Stadium, and I got chills, my eyes filled with tears because I am so overwhelmed by all things Yankees – and I wondered how in hell he can walk without his knees buckling. I’d have to be carried off the field after dying from fright!
Let’s go Yanks!
Let’s go Wang!
Get a win!
ESPN games are dreadful. I try to turn the sound down and listen on the radio, but then I know what’s about to happen on the tv before I see it. Like having poorly-tuned ESP, I guess.
Joe Morgan believes in multi-tasking. He’s a Hall of Famer and a first class jerk. The only thing worse than JM is that tool Tim McCarver.
great if Wang won CY, but can he pitch in October?
I finally trust Joe Morgan, Hall of Famer.
“good thing he doesn’t know he is supposed to suck because his k rate says he should.”
All I’m saying is that every indication about the guy’s performance is that he’s gotten lucky. All a GM can do is make educated guesses. Hernandez’s performance coming into this season did not make him a good bet. His numbers to this point this season indicate that he is getting lucky and/or his performance is predicated on the strength of the defense behind him. Either way, he’d have been a bad bet for the Yankees.
Anyway, good game everyone. Talk to you later.
Can this Wang pitch in October? My guess is an overwhelming YES!
Friends in NY told me it was pouring and supposed to be lousy all night. Another friend of mine is still on the tarmac in South Carolina waiting to fly to NYC. Been delayed for quite a while. We had to decide by 4 p.m. I’m an idiot.
hate that song!
are they going to play that horrible song all game???????
Oh God, not that Mets song again. Geez!
That Mets song is older than John McCain.
Trisha..let’s get to October first!!
Again – is that Mets song for real????? Where in hell did THAT come from?
Is “Meet the Mets” a polka??
What is the crowd chanting? Bobby?
Getting squeezed already…
It is a six hour drive right? I can’t say that I don’t blame you for not wanting to drive that far, only to maybe find good/bad weather.
i know the Derek Jeter chant…but what is the rest?
Ellen –
Geeze I don’t know but it sounds like one of those broadway tunes from the 40s or something where the chorus line is all men, if you know what I’m saying…
r u freakin kidding me? can’t catch that?
wtf gonzo?? that was a total A-Rod miss!
Trisha,
He hasn’t yet
Are you kidding? Is this just bad luck or Gonzalez?
The good news is that A-Rod wouldn’t have gotten that popup either.
geez
Alberto is back to Scranton where he belongs when A-Rod finally comes back
SOS AROD …——..—.-
“gonzalez saw it all the way…. he may have lost it for a second at the end”
So people who have played baseball at a high level understand that?
sara – just answering “Jeter’s future wife”s question about Wang being able to pitch in October! But I do believe we’ll be there.
Wang should get a gold glove lol.
nice ground out, let do it “All Night Long”!
If you hate Joe Morgan and ESPN so bad . Why don’t you turn it off an watch something else Don’t bith here
Good. That makes the popup miss irrelevant.
Nick –
I’ll explain that to you later
Seriously. Can someone explain to me why anyone would be a Mets fan?
there’s my boy! I’ll reward him tonite for that! haha lol!
Exactly which team is AG playing for tonight?
geesh
Nice 1st inning by Wang.
I’m watching it on ESPN on mute and just listening to music on my laptop. I refuse to listen to Yankee games on ESPN.
i guess john stirling is right. infield popups in the infield should be caught.
he said this three times as if it were a grand scientific discovery
At least ESPN shows constant love for Jeter.
Trisha, i do too..i have to or else there would be nothing left for me to believe in!
ok offense..let’s do a little better for Wang then the last time he pitched!
pete you got a misspell in the lineup. thats betemit not gonzalez
ok, maybe Damon can get BB, work a count for heaven’s sake!
“Seriously. Can someone explain to me why anyone would be a Mets fan?”
Other than the fact that David Wright is wicked hot, I can’t think of one.
: )
our song is just as bad!
Virgin Islands…I don’t believe that question has an answer. inexplicable
OK, I just realized what was causing the Yankees’ problems all season so far. I walked by my desk and realized that my Tino Martinez autographed ball was sitting in its case UPSIDE DOWN somehow. I fixed it at 8:12PM EDT, which you will all look back on as the turning point of the Yankees’ season.
Get Wang some runs boys. Or at least try…
Ok, will someone please tells these fools that we never play the theme song with the lyrics.
Virgin Islands – gotcha. And nobody has been more aware of that and vocal about it than I. Or not many, anyway. Well I see a new and different CM this year. Not the CM who won 19 games and pitched erratically in the process but won partly due to his team’s offensive largesse, but a shining diamond who is excelling despite his team’s totaly lack of run production.
Tending to look beyond the rainbow, I say he will be able to do it this year.
Tonight is yellow teeth night courtesy of Peter “Red Sox” Gammons.
“Alberto is back to Scranton where he belongs when A-Rod finally comes back”
That will not be the roster move when Alex comes back. Gonzales is the only back-up infielder on the roster. If they send him down, who backs up Cano and Jeter?
Damon sees more 0-2 counts then anyone
Schedule gets much much easier starting Tuesday. I think we’ll win tonight, enjoy the day off and then start to roll on Tuesday. I get the feeling that we are at the low point of the season as we speak.
Greetings all.. wanted to get in before I was yelled at for only posting when they are losing. Since it is 0-0, I guess I am safe..
Wang looks good at this point. Now lets see if the Yankees do more than just pitch and play defense tonight. Stuck in the cellar is not good, but at least it is only 5 back.
Jeff NJ – I like that sentiment!
Anybody here hear rumblings on the life expectancy of Kevin Long?
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, BOBBY, STOP BAILING!!
Not sure why Abreu was trying to pull that ball.
at least if Gonzalez gets on base, he provides some speed, keep him on roster for late inning pinch runner
Tino 4HoF…love it!!!! I predict Yanks win 15 of their nxt 20 now that the ball is in it’s rightful position
Posada is a real no-excuses, bottom-line kind of guy. I asked him about the team needing him back and he said that they should be scoring runs even with he and A-Rod out. “We still have a good lineup,†he said.
What a concept. People have only been saying this since the beginning :rolleyes:
Pepper – only from you!
I was just thinking the same thing about Jeter. He might be having a relatively dull streak but put him against the Mets or the Sux and all of a sudden he come to life…
Lotta empty seats at the stadium.
way to work the count
Why on earth would there be rumblings about Kevin Long?
Many hitters credited Kevin Long with their success last year in that offensive boom, including Alex.
Morgan just said that “some walks are better than other”. Really, Einstein?
“I just realized what was causing the Yankees’ problems all season so far. I walked by my desk and realized that my Tino Martinez autographed ball was sitting in its case UPSIDE DOWN somehow. I fixed it at 8:12PM EDT,”
at about 9:12 pm i had the same thought. so it’s anointed. by you! mark it. from here on in.
i so much hate the mets.
Angel, stop and think about this forum at its worst, and then answer your own question.
But in a rational moment, there shouldn’t.
My sister’s friend is 5 rows behind home plate – he thinks baseball games are for drinking and food…how is this fair?
joe morgan is an a*hole!!!!!
Saying that Girardi should be taking as much heat as Willie????
oh no
Rumblings are ok, but please don’t bith in here.
Girardi’s job in jeopardy, they need to shut up!
It’s always refreshing to see Damon step to the plate having heavy fraternization and laughter with the opposing catcher and home plate umpire and if by some chance he reaches 1st base, he keeps it going with the opposing 1st baseman and 1st base umpire.
When A-Rod comes, shelly will be sent down.
Gonzales is needed as a back up infielder.
Unfortunately, Ensberg will stick around.
“I just realized what was causing the Yankees’ problems all season so far. I walked by my desk and realized that my Tino Martinez autographed ball was sitting in its case UPSIDE DOWN somehow. I fixed it at 8:12PM EDT,”
at about 8:12 pm i had the same thought. so it’s anointed. by you! mark it. from here on in.
i so much hate the mets.
What else is Posada supposed to say, Nemo?
“Well if they could just hold on until I get back, because the lineup without me in it sucks.”
Of course hes not going to say anything less than a vote of confidence in the current team given how far he is away from coming back.
Weird stolen base there. Didn’t it look like Jeets was running in place?
what a circus it would be if Girardi’s job was in jeopardy, publicly! stop it!
It is 8:26 PM here, and this is my first “Joe Morgan, STFU” of the night.
looks like I should be happy the mute button is on
Godzilla hit it hard, just right at that Giambi impersonator DelGado.
Ahh okay. I was just hoping there hadn’t been rumblings about Kevin Long that I hadn’t heard about.
I was hoping not. I was operating on the belief that ownership is hopefully less reactionary about these things than some elements of the fanbase, lol.
Chatty—I don’t see a problem with that. Is he supposed to pretend he hates those guys? Johnny strikes me as a bit of a nervous talker.
Laura – thought the same thing and quickly thought about his quad and then firgured since he went the same time the ball was released he didn’t really have to tear ass.
I hope that was it sum and substance!
Lets go Wanger!
I have a good feeling about tonight. And I love watching games on ESPN minus Joe Morgan. The games just have a better look than they do on YES.
Angel,
Kevin Long rumblings are coming from hitters not having good at bats in certain situations. We don’t see him telling the players how to adjust as the game takes shape, he just sits there and eats sunflower seeds.
Johnny Damon has a lot to be happy about.
I actually like that about Johnny.
AND SHUT UP ABOUT GIAMBI’S DEFENSE SINCE HE MAKES GREAT PICKS IN THE DIRT!
Giambi really can scoop that ball.
ooooh, the cat makes a good grab too! alright Robbie!
I can’t believe Joe Morgan thinks Girardi should be looked at the same way as Randolph. Unbelievable. Girardi is missing his 2 best right handed hitters and his #4 starter along with one of his set up men. Willie has his whole team healthy.
Good pick by Giambi.
So the hitters are having rumblings?
just checking. Don’t worry, not starting any, just asking.
Yeah, Johnny does, his wife is something out of Maxim mag!
why wont god take joe morgan from this earth
I can’t believe I actually agree with Morgan, but, yes, that’s a catchable ball for a 1B.
Wanger’s got the ground ball working.
Wangs sinker is working tonight!
Jon Miller is being disrespectful to Joe Morgan.
Great inning Wanger, great inning!!!
Lets get some runs!!
“I can’t believe I actually agree with Morgan, but, yes, that’s a catchable ball for a 1B.”
For a normal 1B. This is Giambi that we are talking about. For him, that was a great play. Anyone else, it would be average or standard.
Rock on Wang!
no,not the hitters, at least we don’t know if they are, but for example, in Tampa last week, we had a rally going with bases loaded, we’re down by 3 and pitcher is nearing high pitch count so we can get to the bullpen, and Melky steps up and swings at first pitch and popped up.
he should have been up there working the count, make him throw strikes, maybe walk a run home, and what do we get? We get a first pitch swinging!
Matt…not only that but Girardi has been the manager of this team for 50ish games…willie has been the mut manager for 4 years and they still suck!
It’s just a shame that Wang has to take the loss.
“I can’t believe Joe Morgan thinks Girardi should be looked at the same way as Randolph.”
He’s just protecting Willie – it is a 2B thing, you wouldn’t understand.
lurker
May 18th, 2008 at 8:30 pm
why wont god take joe morgan from this earth
it is a curious predicament that god is in, Joe Morgan or Tim McCarver or Michael Kay… In the end, god will defer to the beast below and take what is left.
I agree with Miller that it wasn’t a routine catchable ball.
Lurker as much as Joe Morgan drives me crazy I don’t think that was a real nice sentiment and I’m sure you didn’t mean it.
Who do you hate more. Mets or Sox? I vote Mets.
let’s not let the sj44 negative brigade ruin the game and the season
Jeter’s first steal ???!!!
I wonder how many Sheffield has.
“It’s just a shame that Wang has to take the loss.”
???? unless they win…???
I see that Giambi is still batting on the Interstate. At least Cano got himself