Comments on: Is it too early to talk about the wild card? http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/ A Yankees Blog by Journal News beat writer Peter Abraham Sun, 7 Sep 2008 15:53:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.2.5 By: Scott (Start Joba) http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-355642 Scott (Start Joba) Tue, 20 May 2008 18:43:44 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-355642 Big J, Pitchers like Santana come around much more often than that. He's not Pedro in his prime. Or Randy J in his prime so put the hyperbole to rest. At this point, he's probably not even the third best pitcher in the NL. His ERA this year is 3.30 and last year was 3.33. Yeah, he strikes out a shade over a guy an inning. So do Scott Kazmir and Erik Bedard. Big deal Pedro Martinez, in his prime, was a once in a lifetime pitcher. Johan, as good as he is, is not in that class. None of his other peripheral numbers stack up against Pedro, Randy J, Maddux - true once in a lifetime guys - when they were in their primes Pitching is not the problem right now anyway. You know what the problem is? 2,4,2,2,1,1. That's the number of runs we've scored in the last week. THAT'S a problem. Big J,

Pitchers like Santana come around much more often than that. He’s not Pedro in his prime. Or Randy J in his prime so put the hyperbole to rest. At this point, he’s probably not even the third best pitcher in the NL. His ERA this year is 3.30 and last year was 3.33. Yeah, he strikes out a shade over a guy an inning. So do Scott Kazmir and Erik Bedard. Big deal

Pedro Martinez, in his prime, was a once in a lifetime pitcher. Johan, as good as he is, is not in that class. None of his other peripheral numbers stack up against Pedro, Randy J, Maddux - true once in a lifetime guys - when they were in their primes

Pitching is not the problem right now anyway. You know what the problem is? 2,4,2,2,1,1. That’s the number of runs we’ve scored in the last week. THAT’S a problem.

]]> By: RockinDaBronx http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-355070 RockinDaBronx Tue, 20 May 2008 02:12:57 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-355070 is it too early to talk about getting knocked out of the first round again? is it too early to talk about getting knocked out of the first round again?

]]> By: Dave http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354910 Dave Mon, 19 May 2008 23:04:57 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354910 Yea, sorry, Posada and Arod aren't having repeat career years again. Yea, sorry, Posada and Arod aren’t having repeat career years again.

]]> By: Big Johnson http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354828 Big Johnson Mon, 19 May 2008 20:23:32 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354828 Cathy, Santana always starts off slow. If you look at his numbers in previous years, he is right on track to having a terrific season. Pitchers like Santana come around once in a lifetime. The Yankees have a long history of signing these types of players. Sadly we missed out in a big way. He would have added stability and competitiveness to our staff for the next decade. Regardless of how much money he would have cost, Yankee ticket prices would have gone up. Not signing Santana was a worse move than signing Igawa. Cathy,

Santana always starts off slow. If you look at his numbers in previous years, he is right on track to having a terrific season.

Pitchers like Santana come around once in a lifetime. The Yankees have a long history of signing these types of players. Sadly we missed out in a big way. He would have added stability and competitiveness to our staff for the next decade.

Regardless of how much money he would have cost, Yankee ticket prices would have gone up.

Not signing Santana was a worse move than signing Igawa.

]]> By: Jeter's future wife http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354827 Jeter's future wife Mon, 19 May 2008 20:22:56 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354827 Pete, thanks for showing me the lighter side of this Hot Mess we have on our hands right now. I suspected Joba in the rotation by early July if not end of June too, what choice do they really have? Boomer, I don't think that's really a choice! Pete,

thanks for showing me the lighter side of this Hot Mess we have on our hands right now. I suspected Joba in the rotation by early July if not end of June too, what choice do they really have? Boomer, I don’t think that’s really a choice!

]]> By: Big Johnson http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354826 Big Johnson Mon, 19 May 2008 20:20:48 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354826 nemo, you are correct, but its not worth discussing how they would make an early playoff exit, as there really is no hope of making the post season with this staff. Baseball is all about the pitching, and sadly we have none. The fact that Kei Igawa got a start speaks volumes about the severity of the problem. This team is going nowhere this year. Disclaimer: I was a big proponent of positivity at this point last year. nemo, you are correct, but its not worth discussing how they would make an early playoff exit, as there really is no hope of making the post season with this staff. Baseball is all about the pitching, and sadly we have none. The fact that Kei Igawa got a start speaks volumes about the severity of the problem. This team is going nowhere this year.

Disclaimer: I was a big proponent of positivity at this point last year.

]]> By: Big Johnson http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354825 Big Johnson Mon, 19 May 2008 20:18:28 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354825 Cathy, the difference is we were under performing last year. The only thing under performing this year is our hitting. Even with monster offense, this team wont be able to be a legitimate playoff contender. It has absolutely no pitching whatsoever. We aren't even in the conversation. Cathy, the difference is we were under performing last year. The only thing under performing this year is our hitting. Even with monster offense, this team wont be able to be a legitimate playoff contender. It has absolutely no pitching whatsoever. We aren’t even in the conversation.

]]> By: Cathy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354816 Cathy Mon, 19 May 2008 19:55:30 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354816 The biggest mistake was NOT signing Santana. The biggest mistake was believing that Hughes & Kennedy would pitch shutout. The Santana trade looks great in hindsight. But if you really analyze the deal, the Yankees did the right thing by NOT trading for him. What the fans NEVER discuss is the fact that Santana was only going to wave his no-trade clause if he was traded to a team that was going to give him a lengthy contract extension. The reason why the Mets got him is because the were committed to signing him for SEVEN years. Santana didn't look great on Saturday and in 3-4 years he may not be what he is now. If that's the case, then the Yanks avoided another boondoggle on their payroll. Santana was a short term solution but a potentially long term problem. The biggest mistake was NOT signing Santana. The biggest mistake was believing that Hughes & Kennedy would pitch shutout.

The Santana trade looks great in hindsight. But if you really analyze the deal, the Yankees did the right thing by NOT trading for him. What the fans NEVER discuss is the fact that Santana was only going to wave his no-trade clause if he was traded to a team that was going to give him a lengthy contract extension. The reason why the Mets got him is because the were committed to signing him for SEVEN years. Santana didn’t look great on Saturday and in 3-4 years he may not be what he is now. If that’s the case, then the Yanks avoided another boondoggle on their payroll.

Santana was a short term solution but a potentially long term problem.

]]> By: nemo http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354815 nemo Mon, 19 May 2008 19:48:38 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354815 Even if they do manage to scrape away and get the wild card, does anyone honestly think they are going to give us anything other than another first round exit? Unless there is a MAJOR turn around in every aspect of how the Yankees have been playing (something that would probably involve a big time trade around the deadline), they're not making it. And to be perfectly honest, I'd rather them not make it at all then to see them be embarrassed like they have been for the past 4 playoffs. Even if they do manage to scrape away and get the wild card, does anyone honestly think they are going to give us anything other than another first round exit?

Unless there is a MAJOR turn around in every aspect of how the Yankees have been playing (something that would probably involve a big time trade around the deadline), they’re not making it.

And to be perfectly honest, I’d rather them not make it at all then to see them be embarrassed like they have been for the past 4 playoffs.

]]> By: Cathy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354814 Cathy Mon, 19 May 2008 19:48:15 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/19/is-it-too-early-to-talk-about-the-wild-card/#comment-354814 I went back in time and reviewed last year's schedule and W/L record. Its exactly the same. We weren't pitching last year, we weren't hitting last year and we weren't playing good defense (I recall a famous NYDN backpage headline "E6"). Sound familiar?? But we came back and got into the playoffs. This is a LONG season. I went back in time and reviewed last year’s schedule and W/L record. Its exactly the same. We weren’t pitching last year, we weren’t hitting last year and we weren’t playing good defense (I recall a famous NYDN backpage headline “E6″). Sound familiar?? But we came back and got into the playoffs. This is a LONG season.

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