2008 managerial ejections (updated)
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 22, 2008 
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Nice win by the Yankees tonight. Let’s hope this is some kind of spark that gets them going.
Girardi OWNS Mr. Torre!!
LOL!! Good stuff Pete.
You ought to look to get Bigalow Tea to sponsor the Managerial ejection chart on the blog.
I am going to be Joe wins this race.
I thought the ejection was hilarious, Nice job though. Yankees won, so a good day indeed.
the ejection looked like something he’d been planning for weeks.
Yes Pete, but what is the stat for MEDLTGWH’s?
You know – Managerial Ejections Directly Leading to Game Winning Hits.
Its Sabremetrics gone bad.
Or, as Pat said in the other thread, that’s 47 games worth of frustration coming out.
Guccione just happened to trigger it.
Many heroes tonight, not just Robbie.
Joe with the extra theatrics, Matsui with that teeth-clenching run home, Farns and Mo, and certainly Kennedy. Nice outing for IPK, he was throwing more strike and showing more mental toughness.
Yeah the ejection looked rehearsed but the bottom line is that it worked… There’s no denying that it got the crowd into the game and it probably loosened up players who were probably thinking about the possibility of another tough loss. And then Cano said that it fired him up a little bit and it ruined the pitchers rhythm…
But part of the reason it was so effective was because no one really saw that kind of outburst coming so you have to wonder how often he can really use it if he wants it to be effective when it’s used.
But did Torre get his money’s worth with his? I thought for a minute that Girardi was going to pull a Lou and throw a base…
That was a horrible call though, and he deserved every word Joe gave him…
It is funny.
JoeT – 28 in 09 wrote the same in the last thread at 9:50 pm.
Pete starts a new thread here with the same lines at 10:10 pm, without even crediting JoeT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Girardi didn’t do Willie Randolph any favors tonight…that performance is exactly what Mets fans want from Willie.
“Guccione just happened to trigger it.”
Hasn’t he been the bane of the Yankees existence before? I thought Guccione and Angel Hernandez (I think that’s his name) are very fiery umpires.
jay destro and david – I agree with that. The more Guccione didn’t toss him, the more Girardi went back for more! It looked rehearsed, but it was still cute.
Angel Hernandez is just an idiot. I don’t know how fiery he is.
Girardi gets style points tonight, just don’t go picking up third base and flingin’ it
LOL Peter
The hero folks need to mention…..Bobby Abreu.
You don’t draw the walk, while giving Cano more pitches to see, you don’t get the winning run to second base.
One of the major problems with the offense so far this year are the lack of walks. Abreu’s walk set the stage for the GW hit.
An instance where his patience paid dividends.
Great quote from Kennedy”
“This is what I did in the minors. This is what I did last year.”
That was a really gutsy start. He could have folded several times – especially after that horrendous “play” by Giambi. That’s when the game could have gotten away – but he settled down and made very good pitches to the middle of the O’s line up.
Still too many walks but that’s ok for now – this game was such a huge step forward from what he’s done.
All he needs to be is the 5th starter.
People were wondering why Girardi didn’t skip Kennedy tonight when he could have.
The game we saw tonight was what Girardi was hoping for. This is why they didn’t skip him.
Good idea, SJ. I just arranged an exclusive endorsement deal.
Chris I thought Joe was going to try to pull out homeplate.
And I still want to know what the home plate umps explanation was.
“The hero folks need to mention…..Bobby Abreu.”
No doubt. His at bat was such a contrast to ARod. Alex was just trying to hit the ball to jupiter.
And then Bobby gets up there and calmly draws a walk.
When Abreu got ahead 2-0 there was no doubt he was going to get on base there.
That gets Matsui into scoring position.
That’s one of the things that Abreu does that makes him such an unusual player, especially for a middle of an order guy.
That’s also why he has to be surrounded by talented players.
Cano doesn’t get that hit bobby’s walk is wasted.
Stephen M
That is a great point – Even though the 2 teams have just about identical records this is going to be rammed down Willie’s throat.
Just an aside – on the FAN today M&MD asked Joe about the timing of the Joba decision. He said he did it because he “knew I’d be on with you guys today”
Maybe he’s getting the hang of having fun w/ the media.
It was a great win with great pitchinig and timely win.
Emotion from Joe also fired up the fans and possibly the team.
Let us hope this is the beginning of the turn around and slow rise in the standings.
w00t – they win handily last night, and win a close one tonight. Win tomorrow, and we say the Yankees are BACK!
SJ44- Good point… Abreu’s patience was a big help at the end tonite. I just wish when he swings he stops bailing out when the pitch is away.
I think Girardi must have been watching a Yankee classic with Billy Martin getting ejected. That was classic Billy Martin.
That was just a terrible call. Since when do you take the word of the catcher when the play was 18 inches from your face? I don’t think the Catcher is a neutral observer…
JoeT – 28 IN 09!!
May 22nd, 2008 at 9:50 pm
Laid back Torre 1
FIESTY JOE G = 1
I went with feisty over fiery.. and spelled it wrong but close enough lol
“we won a game yesterday, we win one tonight, that’s two in a row. Win tomorrow, that is called a winning streak – it has happened before!!”
I would like to know what Alex told Ian in that inning, after that I saw fastballs at 92 mph
Peter Abraham, I’ve been extremely patient but I finally have to speak up. You know that people respond more positively to love than they do rejection. Players are people. You are very unkind to Kyle Farnsworth and he really has been great this season. And I hate to say it, but you know the old pundit, as goes Peter Abraham, so goes his blog! You rile the masses. They get down on Kyle. You make my job as his main supporter very very hard!
So I implore you to show some objectivity and understanding and get a real pulse on the reality until and unless it changes. So repeat after me. WOO HOO KYLE FARNSWORTH!!!
(This post is basically tongue in cheek!)
Molina looks really good in that shade of blue.
Send JoeT-28 IN 09 a bag of green tea and call it even.
BBFan – now i’m just posting like crazy – but thanks for the credit
I didn’t see that before i posted it here lol
What is your agenda, Pete?
Well that was a satisfying win.
Didn’t Giardi get ejected when Farnsworth threw at manny because the benches had been warned already?
tonight was his first ejection Ed.
Brandon
Molina was rambling a bit but it sounded like he said that Alex told Ian to get his focus back.
He’ll always remember his first time. Hold me.
Ed, I think he did. But that is an automatic ejection.
Oh yeah – GO PISTONS!
That was a very good job by ARod settling down Kennedy. Right after that talk Kennedy got back to throwing fastballs and throwing strikes.
thanks Pat but I got a feeling he said something more. If you read lips well I didn’t see focus blurted out.
Kennedy proved himself, he didn’t get the win but he kept it an 1 run ball game.
Too bad Angel Hernandez wasn’t the umpire. That would have been a really fun thing to watch.
It was quite funny to watch Joe G keep going until he got ejected. He wasn’t leaving until he got the ejection salute.
That was a very good job by ARod settling down Kennedy. Right after that talk Kennedy got back to throwing fastballs and throwing strikes.
That stood out to me from this game as much as anything.
It really is nice to see A-Rod stepping out of Jeter’s shadow and doing something like that.
Just got home and saw the highlights. A little bit of everything! The fiery manager we expected and the first walk-off win of the season. Good job by Cano!
What a sweet game in Boston.
GO PISTONS!
10.7 seconds left in the game, Pistons leading by 3. They have the ball to inbound.
10.2 left. Pistons going to the line.
Well you all can catch the final score. I would guess that Pistons have it sewn up.
Celtics will lose at home. How very sweet.
Night all.
ARod needs to step up and be a leader on this team. Jeter can’t do it all by himself.
Joe Girardi is awesome!!!!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Num9um0-ik
I really hope this ejection sparks up the team. We can really use a sweep from the Mariners since there are struggling.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Num9um0-ik
Did anyone see the Red Sox game today? Before Mike Lowell came to the plate, I saw Manny punching him in the chest. He must have been pumping him up and then Lowell hits a grand slam. What a play by Manny Ramirez! That grand slam is owed to Manny Ramirez!!
Just got in from a company 7 hour fishing trip.
Honestly: 7 hours, not one fish. But the City was beautiful as usual with a welcomed addition of the fireworks because of fleet week.
Watching the Encore on YES now, but from what ive heard…seems like a good win, no?
It was a very good win Dr. Cox
GREAT win doc!!
IPK pitched pretty damn well – 4 BB’s – but he showed some guys getting out of a bases loaded jam
Ive been calling for an ejection of Girardi all season.
I welcome it with open arms.
WOW what a play by Markakis to double up Damon.
Go somewhere else Red sox fan. Your posts about Manny and Lowell are unwanted here.
“ARod needs to step up and be a leader on this team. Jeter can’t do it all by himself.”
Jete does his share but he is far from alone. Jorge is a leader on that team, so is Mo. And Arod has been great mentoring Robbie and Melky since last season and he certainly gave IPK that extra push tonight. I definitely wouldn’t say Jeter is doing it all by himself.
Leadership is one thing this team isn’t lacking.
They’ve got a good mix of veterans who really seem to enjoy being around the kids and embrace their role of mentoring them and a good group of kids who seem be comfortable in the clubhouse yet willing to learn from the experience of the veterans.
“A Hall of Fame closer’s shaky start”
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....aky_s.html
Donna,
I have to admit it did look staged, but it was funny…
Hilarious theatrics, and a Yankee victory…
What more could a fan want?
GO YANKS!!!!
Was at the game today – it was Mom’s first game in a long time and a great one to be at…everyone got even more into it after the ejection. I have to say, I thought the game was lost before it even started and was happy to see how wrong I was
Oh – and while Girardi might have looked a little staged. it’s like any good family fight. It doesn’t matter what I say about my guy (may or may not have been a bit over the top), but I’ve always got his back.
Joba pitches on Saturday BTW he will throw in a 45 pitch limit on Sat. Courtesy of NY1
Haha, Donna clearly likes Girardi as much as she likes A-Rod.
Jerkrardi? A bit juvenile and grade school though.
Lol…nothing like two paisans going at it- if you read lips, just before Guccione turns away from Joe G he says, “Get the f*** out of here!” It reminded me of when I was a child and I got to watch my uncles’ arguments around the table during Sunday night dinner(sniff…).
great article…
it takes time to develop talent.
A Hall of Fame closer’s shaky start
by By Dan Graziano/Star-Ledger Staff
In his big-league debut 13 years ago today, Mariano Rivera was an ineffective starter with an uncertain role
NEW YORK — Not long ago, Damion Easley was at home with his kids, Mariano Rivera was pitching on TV, and the Mets infielder decided he’d drop a little trivia on them — a fun fact about Dad.
“I faced that guy when he was a starter,” Easley told them, and he got the expected response.
“He was a starter?” they asked.
He was, and Easley remembers it well. He was the second baseman for the California Angels on May 23, 1995, when Rivera made his major-league debut as a Yankees starter.
“I remember a pretty live arm and a fastball that looked effortless, much like he is now,” Easley recalled last week. “The fastball was straight, though. He didn’t have the cutter then, and I think he was throwing a curveball, too. You noticed that he had a good, live arm, but there was no way to know, you know, what he was going to become.”
What Rivera has become, in the 13 years that have passed since that day in Anaheim, is the greatest relief pitcher of his and maybe anyone’s time.
He has put together a Hall of Fame career that includes four World Series titles and 454 saves. But on the day his major-league career started, nobody could have seen it coming — not even Rivera.
When he thinks back to that debut, he doesn’t bring up the eight hits, five runs and three walks the Angels got against him in the first 3 1/3 innings of a 10-0 loss. As all great closers do, he skirts the negative memory and goes right to the positive.
“I won the only game we won on that road trip,” Rivera said, and he’s right. His debut began a nine-game trip on which the Yankees went 1-8. The only win was Rivera’s second start, a 4-1 victory in Oakland on May 28.
The ’95 Yankees would make the playoffs, but at that point they were struggling, and Rivera didn’t provide the help they hoped he would. That very straight fastball was moving at around 88-89 mph, and in 15 innings over four big-league starts he allowed 29 hits. They sent him down to Triple-A Columbus on June 11.
Two weeks later, he pitched a five-inning, rain-shortened no-hitter. Yankees GM Gene Michael got the report on the game and saw that Rivera’s fastball was clocked at 95 mph.
“I said, ‘This can’t be right,’” Michael recalled. “I thought there must be something wrong with the (radar) gun in Columbus.
Michael called to check on the gun and was told it was acting normally. Then he called and got the list of other teams’ scouts who’d attended the game. There were three of them and he called two, including the Cardinals’ Jerry Walker, to ask what their guns had said.
“Jerry told me he threw great — fastball was 94, 95 and he pitched at 93,” Michael said. “So we figured something must have clicked.”
Michael said there was no great mechanical adjustment or new technique that drove the increase in velocity. His belief, even now, is that June of 1995 was the first time Rivera started to feel full-strength after his 1992 elbow surgery.
“He was just getting stronger,” Michael said. “His elbow was feeling fine, and he told me, ‘I just started turning it loose.’ After that, he was clean, and he’s been clean ever since.”
Recalled on July 4, Rivera that day made what still stands as the best start of his major-league career — two hits, four walks and 11 strikeouts in eight scoreless innings against the White Sox in Chicago. He made three more starts after that and on Aug. 1, with the rotation fully healthy, manager Buck Showalter brought Rivera in to pitch the sixth inning with the Yankees leading the Brewers 3-2.
And what did the great Mariano Rivera do in his first career relief appearance?
He blew the save. On a game-tying RBI double to Dave Nilsson.
“They never came to me and said, ‘You’re going to be a reliever now’” Rivera said. “They just started putting me in games out of the bullpen once everybody was healthy. I was just happy to be in the big leagues. I didn’t care.”
He would make only two more starts that year, and ever. He pitched in three of the five games in the Division Series against Seattle, striking out eight and walking one in 5 1/3 scoreless innings. Looking back, it’s believed the Yankees could have won that series had they used him more. But who knew?
“He was good, but he wasn’t Super Mariano yet,” Yankees GM Brian Cashman said. “If we’d known what he was, he would have pitched more in that series.”
That winter, the Yankees front office held a meeting and debated Rivera’s role. That was when they decided to make him a relief pitcher for 1996.
“We thought he could stay strong, and we needed somebody,” Michael said. “He was a backup for (closer John) Wetteland, and we thought he had that strong will that he needed for that role.”
He pitched 107 2/3 innings that year as Wetteland’s setup man, finished third in the Cy Young voting and was a critical component in the Yankees’ first World Series title since 1978. Not bad, especially after they talked about trading him before that season even began.
During spring training of 1996, some of George Steinbrenner’s advisers in Tampa were unsure about whether their 21-year-old shortstop prospect was ready to handle the everyday job. GM Bob Watson had an offer on the table. The Seattle Mariners were willing to trade shortstop Felix Fermin for either of two Yankees relievers — Bob Wickman or Mariano Rivera. Steinbrenner called a meeting.
It took more than two hours to convince Steinbrenner not to do it. Rivera stayed and became a Hall of Famer. And so did the 21-year-old shortstop prospect, whose name was Derek Jeter.
“My career, I have to say it’s been interesting,” Rivera said. “It’s kind of amazing, the way things happen.”
Amazing, to think it all started with a spot start in Anaheim, 13 years ago today.
See more in Dan Graziano
stuart,
Thanks…that was a heckuva an article!
I was at the game too, it was really great. Girardi definitely got everyone fired up.
Yeah that’s an awesome article, almost chilling… Thanks for posting.
Oh and also, about the Girardi ejection, I found something Jeter said very interesting. When asked about it, Jeter was like “yeah it made me laugh a lot”. Just by that remark you can see how it DOES affect the players. Not necessarily firing them all up like Cano said it did to him, but just something as small as making them laugh and loosening them up is what this team needed.
David but others didn’t take it that way
exp. “It means a lot to see the manager fighting for the team,” Cano said. “Especially in that situation.”
Giambi said. “And I looked at the bottom of my bat and it didn’t have a mark. But Joe got fired up and I guess that got us fired up. That’s what makes Joe so fun to play for.”
It shouldn’t come down to the manager being ejected to spur them to victory. Having said this, I add “Good show, Joe!” You were my favorite Yankee when you were catching, and I was so pleased when you took the manager’s job.
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Let’s see where these Yankees go from here.
Many times it takes a game like last night’s game to bring a team out of a funk.
They need to dwell on the things they’re doing right and not about the last 2 months. Treat it as a new season. Show support to each teammate. Winning breeds confidence and more focus on the big picture.
“Build up your weaknesses until they become your strong points”
– Knute Rockne -
lol, couldn’t help but think of that piniella commercial, with all the screaming chit chat,then lou finally suggesting the ump throw him out, to uphold his rep.
The Joe Torre lovefest continues. Whatever helps you sleep at night Pete.
“The Joe Torre lovefest continues.”
And it will do so until the Yanks win a ring under the new manager
Maybe if I do it this way the censor will like it better? Here’s a post that keeps getting eaten by the word press. It was written about 20 minutes ago and for some reason will not post!
What
a
thing
of
beauty
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watch
Keith
Folke
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F’Ortiz
!