Game 48: Mariners at Yankees
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- May
- 23
YANKEES
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui LF
Giambi DH
Duncan 1B
Cano 2B
Moeller C
Cabrera CF
Andy Pettitte (3-5, 4.42) against the Seattle hitters.
Erik Bedard (3-2, 3.24) against the New York hitters.
Notes: Giambi is .273/.431/.545 in May. … Melky is 5 of his last 34 with no runs scored and two RBI. … Jeter is 0 for 7 since he was hit on the hand. … Yanks are 5 for 35 with RISP during the homestand.
Back with updates later.
* * * * * * * * * * GIRARDI SUSPENDED * * * * * * * * * *
4:38 p.m.: This from MLB:
New York Yankees manager Joe Girardi has been suspended for one game and fined an undisclosed amount for his inappropriate actions, which included kicking dirt on Umpire Chris Guccione, during the bottom of the ninth inning of his Club’s game last night against the Baltimore Orioles at Yankee Stadium. Girardi is scheduled to serve his suspension tonight, when the Yankees host the Seattle Mariners.
“I’m shocked,” said Girardi, who had no appeal. “I had no idea I did that.”
Rob Thomson will run the team in Girardi’s absence.
In other news, Felix Hernandez was scratched with a leg issue. The Yanks will have Silva tomorrow and Washburn on Sunday. … Jorge Posada will head down to Tampa on Monday and could start playing in extended spring training. … Wilson Betemit starts his rehab with Scranton tonight.
UPDATE, 7:12 p.m.: Beautiful night in the Bronx. Bright blue sky, 65 degrees and just a little wind. Looks like a huge crowd, too, based on the number of seats already filled in the upper sections.
UPDATE, 7:30 p.m.: Screwy game for Pettitte so far. He has faced 10 hitters. Four of them have singles and he has struck out five of them.
Meanwhile, Seattle manager John McLaren just got ejected for arguing balls and strikes after Ichiro was struck out looking.
Now there are no managers present. What will the players do?
UPDATE, 7:45 p.m.: The Big Donkey finally ran into one. That was Shelley’s first homer of the season. 3-1 Yankees.
No sign of injuries in the dugout as of yet.
UPDATE, 8:06 p.m.: Just a guess, but Derek Jeter has a sore right shoulder or elbow because he’s not throwing the ball well at all. His throws today have been low and lacked the usual zip.
UPDATE, 8:13 p.m.: The Big G is starting to come alive. Double the other way a very good sign for him.
Terrible at-bat for Shelley there. You have to find a way to get that run in.
UPDATE, 8:16 p.m.: Another big hit for Robbie Cano. This has now officially become a game that Pettitte has to win.
UPDATE, 8:30 p.m.: Pettitte isn’t exactly sharp. But all those swing and misses are a sign of something going right for him. Man, Seattle is a dead team.
UPDATE, 8:32 p.m.: It’s like Jeter is a baseball magnet sometimes. But before you demand retribution, pitchers throw certain pitches to the back foot.
UPDATE, 8:38 p.m.: Matsui gets two RBI there. But credit those runs to Jeter. He directed traffic like a point guard while he was in that rundown and got Abreu and A-Rod in scoring position. That’s why he’s so great.
UPDATE, 8:50 p.m.: Rob Thomson is clearly a genius as the Yankees have scored 10 runs and it’s only the fifth inning. I’m calling Hank now to see if Girardi is fired. I’ll report back.
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Finally we have won 2 games in a row, we gotta get some winning streak.
Wait, why is Alex batting third?
Cause he reeks of awesomeness
and there is no lead off Johnny tonight
Damon with the day off. I like moving everyone else up instead of putting Cabrera at leadoff. Jeter used to be a great leadoff hitter before the Damon signing.
“Jeter used to be a great leadoff hitter before the Damon signing.”
Very true. Girardi should have thought of this sooner.
Damon is 3-20 lifetime vs. Bedard. Probably a good time for a day off.
Buster on now with Kay talking about Santana
“Wait, why is Alex batting third?”
Someone mentioned earlier today that Matsui has good numbers against Bedard as does Alex. Putting Matsui behind Alex ensure that Bedard can’t pitch around A-Rod.
I wonder when the inevitable Damon trade happens if Jeter will become the leadoff guy for the Yankees. Abreu might be better suited for leadoff but Jeter is also a good leadoff hitter as well.
“Very true. Girardi should have thought of this sooner.”
And done what with Johnny? Melky batted leadoff a couple times in April, back when he was actually hot. That’s about it.
Now that Damon seems a bit hott. Can we call the Dodgers and see if they want him? I heard Fatboy is injured.
It seems like they are giving Duncan more time to play. Which to me means he’s trying out in these next few games to either stay here or go back.
I know sj and alot think that yelling doesnt do much. But this team hasnt heard a coach throwing a fit and defending his players for god knows how long. Could he have finally put his signature on this team? Can this be the turning point that we have been waiting for? Or am i just over reacting to a Penilla fit? Whatever the answer is. I loved it!!
“Abreu might be better suited for leadoff but Jeter is also a good leadoff hitter as well.”
Will bobby get as many walks with Jeter behind him instead of Alex? I dunno.
“Or am i just over reacting to a Penilla fit?”
Yup.
Whozat, good point about Abreu’s walks especially since Alex sees more pitches with Abreu in front of him as well.
raymagnetic,
I agree with Abreu.
I posted this a couple days ago. Tell me what you think.
Abreu
Melky
Jeter
Arod
Matsui
Posada
Cano
Giambi
Gardner
might be a little different
Whats the secret on getting that tm after your name?
“I wonder when the inevitable Damon trade happens”
And I kinda hope this does happen. But Posada needs to get back and Cano needs to get hot in order for that to be palatable. Lengthen the lineup again.
Or, Melky needs to show that he’s a .360 OBP guy, not a .330 OBP guy. Then you can bring Gardner up if he’s doing well and work him in in the 9-hole.
yes that GIDP tandem of Damon and Jetes is broken up thank god !
“Abreu
Melky
Jeter
Arod
Matsui
Posada
Cano
Giambi
Gardner”
It’d be different all right. Melky hasn’t shown me the OBP to hit that high. He looked great in April, and has been awful this month.
“I wonder when the inevitable Damon trade happensâ€
The only people looking to trade Damon is some of the fans. I’ve heard comments from both Hank and Girardi that indicates that they see Damon as a key piece to our offense. I don’t think they are interested in trading him. Surprisingly enough, I think they’d entertain a trade for Matsui before Damon. How sad is that?
S.os, I don’t really want to see Melky batting second right now. He needs to be more consistent before I’d be comfortable seeing him so high in the order.
The TM is the trademark signed. Raymagnetic – Registered Trademark.
Whozat,
I agree about waiting for Posada to get back before trading Damon. I don’t think Damon’s having as bad a year as some folks think but he could probably bring back something of value and they could give the lineup a different look with Gardner batting in front of Jeter.
Two roadblocks to a Damon trade. One, he has a limited no trade clause. The teams he would agree to a trade to are unknown. We don’t know if those teams could fill a Yankee need or two.
Two, he’s making 13 million a year through next season and, truth be told, isn’t playing up to that deal.
Why would another team want to take that on? They see the same thing we do re: his game.
Buster Olney reported the other day the Yankees have had internal discussions about trading him.
That’s all well and good but, without a suitable trade partner, its just talk and nothing more.
Let’s assume Giambi continues to hit roughly like he’s hitting this month (.274/.431/.545). Ok, discount it a bit to .250/.400/.450.
He works the count too, and Matsui’s a better threat behind ARod, I think. Maybe
Abreu
Jeter
Giambi
ARod
Matsui
Posada
Cano
Melky
Gardner
? Or maybe move Robbie up a slot. Or, if Robbie gets on the kind of tear he usually has, put him in the 3-hole.
I can’t wait until Damon gets a big hit in the post-season, and all you Damon haters have to apologize.
Look at the box scores from the last three post-season series. Damon was one of the few guys who actually helped them win games.
It’s early. Give the guy a break. It’s not like he’s batting .200.
Abreu would be a very good #2 hitter if they wanted to go in that direction.
Would someone take Damon? I guess so but the team would have to take on most of the money or a good chunk of it I assume.
Do you try to trade him in season or over the winter?
Do you put Matsui in left and finally get Giambi off of first?
The Dodgers already have Juan Pierre doing nothing. Do they want damon?
I don’t know. If they could move him I would.
SJ – This question is more of a continuation of the previous post. I’ve had this crazy idea for a while and wanted you input. I think we should try and send a Kennedy centered package for Matt LaPorta. What do you think it would take to get him? Is it plausible? Would you do it?
Very interesting batting order.
whozat,
Giambi 3rd. Nooo! Id rather have Matsui there and Posada 5th.
“Why would another team want to take that on? They see the same thing we do re: his game.”
Yeah, you’d have to eat money to get back something good. But, if you can package Damon, dollars, and an interesting young pitcher for perhaps a high-OBP young righty corner ifer or ofer…
“Giambi 3rd. Nooo! Id rather have Matsui there and Posada 5th.”
Why? Did you bother to read what I wrote or just look at the order?
If he’s getting on base at a .400 clip (a discount from how he’s doing this month), he’d be a good choice hitting in front of ARod.
I doubt that Damon goes anywhere this year. He might get traded in the off season if he puts up good numbers this year, but I just don’t see the Yanks moving to many people before July.
“SJ – This question is more of a continuation of the previous post. I’ve had this crazy idea for a while and wanted you input. I think we should try and send a Kennedy centered package for Matt LaPorta. What do you think it would take to get him? Is it plausible? Would you do it?”
Hasn’t this idea been kicking around on the board for a while now? WE’ve talked about it a bunch already.
The Dodgers already have a bit of a crowded outfield. I don’t think they would take on Damon.
Re: Matt LaPorta, that’s going to up to the Brewers.
They have him in RF in the minors now as they attempt to find a spot for him.
He isn’t a good OF and I don’t see him staying in the OF.
An OF that has Braun and LaPorta on its corners is just not good.
But, they need to know where they stand with Fielder. If they don’t sign Fielder to an extension, I don’t see them trading LaPorta.
Fans who talk about trading Damon aren’t “haters”.
If they are, then the Yankees are also haters because they aren’t happy with his play and have talked about moving him.
You always look to improve your team. Sometimes, the opportunities aren’t realistic. Other times, they are.
Discussing options re: Damon isn’t that unrealistic. Especially since its pretty clear the direction the Yankees are looking to go in right now.
It’s simple. If Colorado isn’t in contention this July, turn Damon into a couple of pieces that we can use to make a run at Holliday. Yeah, I know we’d have to give up some big pieces of our own farm too, but I’m willing to do it. Holliday is a bigtime hitter and the lineup could use another big right-handed bat. I don’t care if Damon hits .450 from mid-June to mid-July. That’d only make it easier to get quality pieces to turn.
whozat May 23rd, 2008 at 4:06 pm
“SJ – This question is more of a continuation of the previous post. I’ve had this crazy idea for a while and wanted you input. I think we should try and send a Kennedy centered package for Matt LaPorta. What do you think it would take to get him? Is it plausible? Would you do it?â€
Hasn’t this idea been kicking around on the board for a while now? WE’ve talked about it a bunch already.
Sorry. I haven’t been around much lately. I had no idea that this had been discussed.
at this point id take a few prospects for damon. isnt worth much than that. itd be better to try and get some value for him instead of just not resigning him. seems like gardner or tabata or jackson could play LF. gardner could leadoff too
Tabata and Jackson aren’t ready for the majors yet.
“I doubt that Damon goes anywhere this year. He might get traded in the off season if he puts up good numbers this year, but I just don’t see the Yanks moving to many people before July.”
No one said right now. I think a Damon move, if there’s a match (and SJ is right, there may very well not be), could be a wise decision for the Yanks come July. Maybe the Cubs have given up on Edmonds by then, and they’re a team he’ll go to.
If they’ll take just Damon and a little cash for Matt Murton I’d do that. He’s not amazing, but he’s good and he’s righty and young. If they want a Marquez to sweeten the pot, I’d do that if they’ll take on some more of the contract. It’d strengthen their bargaining position with Abreu in the offseason, and an outfield comprised of Melky, Murton, Matsui and Gardner is something that could be good going forward, if they think Gardner’s someone that can leadoff in the bigs.
What makes you think the Rockies want Damon? Also, its doubtful Colorado is on his limited no trade list.
Meaning, if he won’t go to Denver, he would just veto the deal.
SoS,
RE: the trademark symbol. You can put anything from Word in your text. Just go to Insert->Symbol
“It’s simple. If Colorado isn’t in contention this July, turn Damon into a couple of pieces that we can use to make a run at Holliday.”
Aren’t his home/away splits somewhat concerning? Like, if you take him out of Colorado, he’s merely a good hitter and not superlative? It seems like you’d have to give up a lot of talent to wind up with someone who’ll field poorly and not really hit enough to be a big-time asset in the face of his D.
“Holliday is a bigtime hitter and the lineup could use another big right-handed bat.”
Here are Holliday’s home road splits:
2008:
Home:
.369 .459 .667 1.126
Road:
.283 .371 .402 .774
Career:
Home:
.364 .428 .662 1.090
Road:
.274 .336 .444 .780
Humidor or not, Holliday is an elite player in Colorado and a mediocre one on the road.
And he’ll require a $150M or so extension.
“Discussing options re: Damon isn’t that unrealistic. Especially since its pretty clear the direction the Yankees are looking to go in right now.”
Absolutely agreed – but it is still fun.
There was a note in MLB Trade Rumors asking whether or not Matt Holiday is going to be this year’s Mark Teixeira. How about Damon and a couple arms to soften the blow for the Rockies (who stink this year so far).
He’s young at 28, he rakes, and he hustles.
“What makes you think the Rockies want Damon? Also, its doubtful Colorado is on his limited no trade list.
Meaning, if he won’t go to Denver, he would just veto the deal.”
The guy said “turn Damon into a couple pieces” to be used in a Holliday deal, which is still pretty vague.
Laura- If they want to trade Damon, don’t you think that saying he is not an key player would decrease his value? They would not say he is unimportant.
yeah i was thinking along the lines of gardner to see if that works out and if not we have options down the road in tabata and jackson. i dont think we need outside help to solve the future LF hole. unless we can convince rondell white or chad curtis to give it another go. thatd be best case scenario…
Maybe Damon’s weak armed throws would fly faster through that thin mountain air!
“What makes you think the Rockies want Damon? Also, its doubtful Colorado is on his limited no trade list.”
No, not directly to Colorado. Grab some pieces from an LA/SD/ChiSox type, then use those pieces and a couple of our own.
We should make a play for Chipper Jones. That guy is pretty good. We can play him in LF.
“he rakes”
See CB’s post
Going for Holliday is the classic go-for-the-big-name move. But, if you look at him…I don’t think he’d be the right fit at the cost it’ll take. Someone is going to go hard to get him if the Rockies are not in contention, and I think that someone had better be pretty certain that Holliday is the difference between a deep postseason run or missing a playoff berth. I don’t think one bat does that for the Yanks. Especially since there’s a lot of evidence to indicate that Holliday won’t rake outside of Coors.
Think about it for a moment. How can Cashman, or any GM, turn Damon, on the downside of his career, into a “couple of pieces” in order for them to get Holliday?
To do so, it means the team you trade Damon to would have to give up bigtime prospects in order for the Rockies to consider trading Holliday.
Do we really think Damon can bring that bounty back at this stage of his career right now? Highly doubtful.
im not sold on holliday home and road splits
ba obp slg hr
home 364 428 662 73
rd 274 336 444 36
“If they want to trade Damon, don’t you think that saying he is not an key player would decrease his value? ”
Whoever bats leadoff is “key”. They always bat Johnny leadoff when he plays. Thus, he is key. They could maybe actually rig things such that they pack more OBP and PPA at the top of the lineup, once Posada’s back. But they put Johnny up there no matter what. So, of COURSE they score more when he gets on base.
Yankees are poised to put up 20 PLUS runs over the weekend….Who is with me ¿
Don’t get me wrong, I think Holliday is a player.
But, you have to look at how trades are made today.
Look at when similar talented guys, around Holliday’s age, are put on the market and what goes back the other way in return.
We are talking “A” List guys.
Hanley Ramirez for Josh Beckett.
Volquez for Josh Hamilton.
The Haren and Santana trades.
We are talking about moving some significant pieces. A list type of guys.
Add to it, the money you are committing to Holliday to get Boras to keep him out of the FA market. That’s not even a guarantee as we know how much Boras likes to take guys into free agency.
Is he that good? I don’t think so.
Good but not so good you give up the farm for him. Which is what it will probably take to get him.
vito, love the new tag
Girardi was suspended !
Girardi suspended tonight for last nights tirade?
Girardi suspended.
Why?
I see managers go on tirades everyday, yet they don’t get suspended.
Bob Watson must have some sort of vendetta against the Yankees.
UP YOURS BOB WATSON !!!
Don,
Your middle initial looks like the Angels logo.
Girardi suspended for tonight’s game, just heard it on wfan
Regarding Damon
I think he has trouble tracking the ball when he is in the field. He has looked unsteady on fly balls this year, and I haven’t seen him pound the glove before he catches the ball like he used to.
Buster Olney was on Kay’s show.
A few more Santana stats he threw out:
Since the start of 2007 Santana has given up more home runs than any other pitcher in baseball.
Since that 17 strikeout game last year santana has thrown 110 innings and given up 20 home runs (it may not have been exactly 110 – but approximately).
I admit to having a split personality on personnel – I am totally on board with the youth movement in the rotation because quantity of good and very good arms is superior to an Ace and the 7 dwarfs approach.
But for position players I think the Abreu/A-Rod model is preferable because position players seem more durable to me.
What is the fun of gathering all these bright and shiny chips if you don’t move them around the table a little.
As for CB – he is always letting “FACTS” and “ANALYSIS” splash cold water on my arm-chair, seat-of the pants GMing. What fun is that???????
“Good but not so good you give up the farm for him.”
What of Murton, perhaps? A complementary player, sure, but could he and Gardner provide some of this younger athleticism that we’re looking for? Mixing them into the OF situation with Melky and Bobby?
wow, watson really loves us
totally absurd.
Do MLB officials litterly watch only Yankee games just waiting to suspend someone? It’s absurd. I’d be surprised if we don’t see a statement from Hank on this one. He needs to speak up. Let’s see them concentrate on some other smaller market teams for once.
SJ, I found another 1B prospect in the Padres system. Kyle Blanks. He’s not LaPorta but looks like a good hitter. Maybe something can happen there since Towers and Cashman are good friends. Thoughts?
It really is funny how quick on the draw Watson is when it comes to suspending Yankees.
At this point, its comical.
One game for that? Geez, what a soft culture baseball has become.
How about one game suspensions for umpiring crews who blow HR calls every night? One would think that’s appropriate since it can affect the outcome of games.
“Girardi suspended for tonight’s game, just heard it on wfan”
Wow…that’s ridiculous. What the hell? He didn’t even really get up in anyone’s face. He carried on, sure…what, the dirt kicking, maybe? ARe the umps such precious little snowflakes that MLB needs to protect them from dirt?
absurd more like a basterd act ! serious WTF is his problem
Speaking of Watson, does anybody remember if the Mariners pitcher who hit Vlad in the head ever got suspended?
I think Girardi got suspended b/c when he threw his hat down he missed the ump. Yankees always get suspended when they miss what they are aiming at.
I’ve seen Lou Piniella go on worse tirades than Girardi did and not get suspended.
Whozat- Oviously whoever bats leadoff is “key” to that specific game. By “key” I believe they mean whether Johnny Damon is replaceable. And the answer to that question is definitely. A leadoff hitter who has hit .270 the last 2 years is replaceable.
obviously*
TKinDC-You are absolutely right. Next time, Girardi needs to nail him with the hat to make sure he can manage the next game.
TK,
I’ll give you an arm chair quarterback mulligan next time!
Just let it rip. Something like, “lets trade giambi for felix hernandez..” whatever you got. Take your best shot!
Also is there a reason they waited until a few hours before th game to make this announcement. Makes totally no sense to me. If they were going to do it which makes no sense why just not announce it this morning.
“SJ, I found another 1B prospect in the Padres system. Kyle Blanks”
BP listed him as the Padres 10th best prospect, and their best power-hitting prospect. He is, apparently, quite large.
“What of Murton, perhaps?”
I like Murton. For whatever reason the Cubs just don’t seem to.
He’s a guy who would be a nice pickup if he wasn’t too costly. The cubs seem hesitant to deal him.
I think Joe G’s suspension is a case of be careful what you wish for. He seemed to be daring the umps to get him ejected, and they didn’t want to oblige at first. I guess now they decided that if Joe wanted to be ejected so bad, how about for a whole game.
heheh
heheh 
heheh 
Watson does have something against us. In case you forgot, he used to be our GM up until 98 i believe. Ever since, no Yankee action has gone unpunished!!
“Whozat- Oviously whoever bats leadoff is “key†to that specific game. ”
Exactly my point.
Watson seriously is a jacka– in my book !
Girardi isn’t the only suspension in MLB.
This from the AP…
Cincinnati manager Dusty Baker was suspended for two games and New York Yankees manager Joe Girardi and San Diego hitting coach Wally Joyner were penalized one game Friday after recent arguments with umpires.
Major League Baseball also fined all three undisclosed amounts.
“He’s a guy who would be a nice pickup if he wasn’t too costly.”
I agree. They were offered…Marlon byrd? Right? From Texas, in the offseason. And they turned it down. Perhaps now that they’ve seen they’re being kinda ridiculous with their demands, they’ll come down a bit. Depends on how big their CF need is, how close they think they are, and how much they value “proven leadoff ability” over actually getting on base.
Alright, some time before the game. Favorite time of year is coming up, so let’s talk about the draft. Who do you think will fall to New York in the No. 28 position (and the no. 44 position)? Some ground rules:
Tigers are at 21, Mets are 18 and 22. Boston is at 30. Anaheim lost its first round pick. There are other teams that will not follow the draft slotting system, but these are two of the bigger infringers.
Eric Hosmer has been the hot name for slipping because of signability, but Yankees have also been scouting various left hand pitchers. Top talent currently includes Pedro Alvarez and Tim Beckham, both of whom will be long gone by 28.
Have fun, its an exciting time of year where new players are full of promise and could one day be the next player we fall in love with.
And they fired all the umpires who blew the home run calls right?
Consider this about Damon:
While Alex Rodriguez struggled to a one-for-14, no RBI performance in the 2006 ALDS against Detroit, Damon batted .400 in the first two games, scoring twice in the Yanks’ only win in Game 1, and providing the team’s only runs with a three-run homer in the 4-3 loss in Game 2, before being subdued by Kenny Rogers and Jeremy Bonderman like the rest of his teammates in Games 3 and 4. Last year, in the ALDS against Cleveland, Damon batted .278 (second highest on the team of anyone with at least five at-bats) with a team-leading two home runs and five runs batted in. His clutch three-run homer in Game 3 turned a 3-2 Indians lead into a 5-3 Yankee advantage, and his lead-off home run in Game 1 off of C.C. Sabathia put the Yankees on the right track (only to be derailed by the first of two awful pitching performances by Chien-Ming Wang).
Hmm, for that matter, anybody know of a list/archive of suspensions by MLB? Now I’m really curious about Sean Green’s April 18 performance (he hit Figgins, struck out Matthews Jr., then….hit Vlad in the head
)
I think baseball officials should be putting more thought into these suspensions before they go through with them. If it was any year except this one I would say OK, nothing the Yankees can do about these suspensions. But the year the all star game is being hosted by the New York Yankees at Yankee stadium they MIGHT want to take a step back on the cute suspensions. They should know Hank’s personality, and if he feels his team is being wronged with unfair suspensions, he can make life difficult for MLB. I’m not saying he would ever jeopardize the experience, but when MLB asks for something to accommodate a sponsor or something, the Yankees can be less than helpful.
Because at a certain point the suspensions aren’t cute anymore and they could get in the head of players and managers. I mean what should Girardi think now? Every time he argues with an ump or gets tossed from a game he’s going to be suspended? I hope the Yankees push back a little on this one because out of all the suspensions this is the most unfair and has no basis. He never touched the umpire and the umpire clearly used explicit language with Girardi.
“Depends on how big their CF need is, how close they think they are, and how much they value “proven leadoff ability†over actually getting on base.”
I think a lot of the murton situation is related to how schizophrenic they are with CF. It makes their entire OF situation in flux.
Look at what they’re doing with Felix Pie. It’s a great way to ruin a prospect. Jim Edmonds?
I just get a feeling they don’t know what they want to do in CF so they’re holding everything in paralysis.
That would be a good potential team for Damon, perhaps. They want to win know. If they believe that damon can still be a CF then perhaps. That’s also a city/ situation that might be appealing to damon.
The Yankees cannot trade Damon for value. He is being paid to be an above-average CF, but can’t play CF anymore. It’s extremely unlikely he can hit well enough to justify being a $13 million corner outfielder.
I’m pro-Cashman in most things, but the Damon signing was a bad move precisely because we are stuck with him as he breaks down. No GM wants to take on the Yankees’ trash. Damon isn’t trash yet, and his hitting has helped us this season, but who would want to pay for his 2009?
Was it April 18? I was checking through the news and the Mariners were playing the A’s, not the Angels.
yankees really lucked out. pete’s reporting that hernandez was scratched. silva is getting moved up then washburn.
No King Felix this weekend should be good news. How do the Yanks hit Washburn?
They played the Angels on April 18th, yea; at least, I’m looking at baseball reference’s gamelog of that night
“Damon isn’t trash yet, and his hitting has helped us this season, but who would want to pay for his 2009?”
So you eat some money. If I’m the Yanks and that’s all it takes to get some value for Damon, I do it.
King Felix has a “leg issue”?
Sounds more like they wanted us to face lefty Washburn who eats up the Yankees.
I would take whomever is available from (In order):
@ 28:
Eric Hosmer 1B American Heritage HS
Ike Davis 1B/OF ASU
Connor Gillaspie 3B WSU
Gerritt Cole RHP HS California
@ 44:
Tanner Scheppers RHP Fresno St.
Allan Dykstra 1B Wake Forest
Tyson Ross RHP Cal
The Mets usually stick to slot so they shouldn’t worry us too much. The Tigers are always a pain in the touche.
Ah, okay. I found it. Hm…I’ll check it out.
King Felix started out 2-0 and has 4 losses and 2 NDs in his last six starts.
(CB-didn’t you “suggest” a Hernandez-Giambi trade earlier? might be too generous!)
Didn’t the Kiefer Sutherland look alike kill the Yankees last year??
yanks vs Washburn:
http://tinyurl.com/3hc37e
Nope, no suspension.
whozat, I agree completely about eating Damon’s salary. But I doubt any team would give us talent for Damon. He is a noodle-armed corner outfielder with little power. Why would another team give up anyone decent for him?
ARod has owned Washburn, Jeter looks good against him. That’s about it.
the Hernandez scratch is more about getting a LHP vs us, thier lining up lefties vs the Yanks.On a worst note can Thomsom guide us to a win for a change
Weird…so, the lesson as Bob Watson would tell us is, it’s better to actually hit the head, than to pitch up near but miss.
That, or being a Yankee is a crime.
We hit Felix hard last time we faced him.
“He is a noodle-armed corner outfielder with little power. Why would another team give up anyone decent for him?”
The ChiSox loves Scott Podsednik in 05.
It obviously depends on the team in question believing he can still play CF at least sometimes. And on what they feel their needs are. If they think they’re a leadoff hitter away, and they perceive Damon as a leadoff hitter…then, you’ve got a match.
No idea what the lesson is.
The lesson is that the higher profile you are, the more you get punished.
What, Vlad doesn’t have the starpower to get the reliever who hit him punished? xP
Wait…damn, it’s the reverse of the NBA huh?
You know how you guys are always joking about trading for a bag of ball?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8170920?MSNHPHMA
“I would take whomever is available from (In order):
@ 28:
Eric Hosmer 1B American Heritage HS
Ike Davis 1B/OF ASU
Connor Gillaspie 3B WSU
Gerritt Cole RHP HS California
@ 44:
Tanner Scheppers RHP Fresno St.
Allan Dykstra 1B Wake Forest
Tyson Ross RHP Cal”
I like these lists. But I really don’ think Hosmer and Davis will last to 28 and I don’t think Gillaspie will either.
Kevin Goldstein has some very, very negative things to say about Gerrit Cole.
I’m wondering if they should just take Scheppers at 28? I don’t get why he’s falling so much because of a stress fracture. It’s far less serious than an elbow tear unless the thinking is that the stress fracture was do to bad mechanics or something much more serious.
This Girardi business is crap. A manager can’t do his job without the spectre of a suspension hanging over his head? Where would Piniella or Weaver be? What’s next, a 3 game ban for patting another guy’s butt for sexual harassment?
“I’m shocked,†said Girardi, who had no appeal. “I had no idea I did that.â€
where you see dirt blind man Watson
so you can’t throw inside and miss or argue bad calls anymore?
“didn’t you “suggest†a Hernandez-Giambi trade earlier? might be too generous!)”
Your right. Ok how about Hernandez and Ichiro for Giambi and Damon?
That may square the deal. But with posada Seattle may need to throw in Jeff Clement to complete the deal.
Sorry had to go do something.
whozat,
Yes,all i saw is the lineup.
mel,
Thank you for the instructions. I found the symbal thing on word. But dont know how to transfer it. Im computer illiturate as some already know. Can i get help trasnferring symbal to my name?
…vasectomy night? (from that link)
Wait…Girardi gets suspended for his action and Chris Guccione gets nothing??? A PLAYER tells him what happened and he just goes along with it? He should get a week off!
Maybe if Watson actually ASKED Girardi what happened, he get off his rear end and go after the REAL problem, Chris Guccione.
Wang vs Washburn on Sunday!!?? Yippee! Washburn has an era of 7!
I’d still trade Carl Pavano for some new baseball bats…the Yankees are sawing them off lately like it’s nobody’s business.
Copy and paste, maybe?
A stress fracture in the shoulder sounds like a fluke injury to me. my worry is that the “stress fracture” turns out to be a torn rotator cuff. Shoulder injuries are always worse than similar injuries in the elbow.
I have also read the stuff on Cole, but “Immature mound demeanor” isn’t enough to convince me not to take a chance on his phenomenal arm (Reports of touching 98 MPH with his FB)
I am in favor of a college bat in round one. David Cooper 1B Cal is also an interesting name there. He gets less press because of the amazing amount of talent at the position this year.
I forgot to include Reese Havens Univ. South Carolina SS to my first round possibilities list. He might have to move to 2B or CF, but he has a nice compact swing that should translate well to the majors.
Steph,
I tried that.
Carl wouldnt get us maple bats. Thats for sure.
CB –
You’re finally seeing things my way! (tough break for you)
I think in Baseball America’s mock draft they projected the Yankees picking Kyle Lobstein (wait till the NY Post backpage gets a hold of that name). He is a LHP.
Whether with the first pick or later I feel strongly that we should pick up some LHP’s. It makes no sense to not build the system with some attention to the configuration of the ballpark where you hope they will play half their games.
Did you use the control buttons for copy/paste or your mouse?
Maybe ol’ Carl could net us some balsa wood bats, then. They’re slightly sturdier than he is.
mouse. How do i use control buttons?
Hold down the control button and the “c” button to copy and use the control button and the “v” button to paste.
“A stress fracture in the shoulder sounds like a fluke injury to me. my worry is that the “stress fracture†turns out to be a torn rotator cuff.”
This is pretty easy to check if you can get to his medical records. It’s just X-rays and an MRI. Which I think he would make available given how fast he seems to have been dropping if he thought he could go in the first round.
I’d think hard about drafting Cole. He’s got a very good arm.
I think they should go for broke in the first round – just grab whatever high ceiling guy is there regardless of position.
This draft is just so thin. If Scheppers is there I’d think about taking him just to make sure you get one high ceiling guy instead of waiting to see if he’s still there in the supplemental. Alternatively I’d think about taking Cole also.
I don’t know if you can count on a high end arm getting past the sox at 30. They really need pitching in their system.
I have a feeling the best guy available is going to be a pitcher.
The position players are going to have to come from the international signings. It may take some time. But I think that’s going to be the source for them getting more athletic.
whozat, if we can find a dumb GM to give us value for Damon, then I’m all for it. I just doubt it will happen.
whozat, if we can find a dumb GM to give us value for Damon, then I’m all for it. I just doubt it will happen.
SoS,
My lord. Type out your name the way you want it Word, inserting the symbols. (click insert to put it in your text)
Like this:
I look ☼ in Spurs!
Then you copy and paste from Word to LoHud.
Lobstein is a huge reach at 28. He isn’t even the best LHP available at that spot (Brett DeVall is better) and he would probably still be there at 44. I agree we should draft some LHP but the Prep arms in this draft are not great. My guess would be to take a guy like TJ House or Brad Hand in round 5 and throw money at them until they decide not to go to college.
Ok, guys. We’ve won two games in a row. If we win tonight, its called a winning streak. IT HAS HAPPENED BEFORE.
CB – I am pretty sure that teams are not allowed access to medical records of anyone in the draft. Even if the player authorizes the move. If you could check and it was a fracture he would be long gone before #28.
beat you to that one last night neil – but great reference lol
Thanks anyways guys. Its not working on this laptop. All it does is goes accross the right amount of spaces. But its blank. Will try Monday at work. I got this laptop from Clay himself.
JoeT – haha no problem I didn’t see your post, but either way it’s true.
Mike R –
I’m not sure about that. I’m pretty sure that any individual can freely release that information.
What I think actually happens is that the players “advisors” generally won’t allow that information to be released.
For instance, last year Boras would not let Brackman release any records or to be examined. But that was because it looked like Brackman would probably go in the first round.
It looks like Scheppers will not.
I could be entirely wrong on this. But I don’t think there’s any rule about that. I don’t see how their could be – it’s an indivdual’s (or parents) decision whether or not to allow that to happen.
Maybe I’m missing something. The whole thing with Scheppers makes no sense so there is probably something else going on. I agree that a fracture alone doesn’t seem like much.
That said, I also think teams look for any reason to get gun shy on taking a pitcher.
I agree on Lobstein. I just can’t see them taking him in round 1.
I was trying to recall a couple years ago when we got blown out by the O’s and that jump started our team. I think in 06. Does anyone remember what month and what kind of streak we went on?
I hate the Angels….
I don’t remember the month, but I think the Yanks won 9 straight. Might have been June.
I thought Joe getting thrown out of the game is punishment enough? He didn’t touch the ump and the ump cursed directly at Joe, he said “get the f out of here”. Managers get thrown out all the time, I don’t recall them ever getting suspended afterwards. Hank must have steam coming out of his ears with more anti-Yankee bias from Watson.
We are going for 12 in a row…we’ll be at five after Sunday’s game !
SoS, It was in August 2006. The O’s blew out the Yankees on a Thursday afternoon, then the Yanks when into Boston to sweep the 5 game series.
Tue, Jun 5 @ White Sox W 7-3 25-31 Clippard (3-1) Buehrle (2-3) Rivera (6)
Wed, Jun 6 @ White Sox W 5-1 26-31 Wang (5-4) Vazquez (3-4)
Thu, Jun 7 @ White Sox W 10-3 27-31 Proctor (1-3) Contreras (4-6) Rivera (7)
Fri, Jun 8 Pittsburgh W 5-4 10th 28-31 Rivera (2-3) Capps (3-3)
Sat, Jun 9 Pittsburgh W 9-3 29-31 Clemens (1-0) Maholm (2-9)
Sun, Jun 10 Pittsburgh W 13-6 30-31 Henn (2-0) Chacon (2-1)
Tue, Jun 12 Arizona W 4-1 31-31 Wang (6-4) Webb (6-4) Rivera (8)
Wed, Jun 13 Arizona W 7-2 32-31 Mussina (3-3) Hernandez (5-4)
Thu, Jun 14 Arizona W 7-1 33-31 Pettitte (4-4) Davis (4-8)
Nevermind. It was May 05 and the Yanks won 10 in a row. I was a 11 months and a game off.
There was another team in those slow starts that got us going by sweeping them. The A’S. Oakland come on down.
The June schedule for this year looks pretty incredible.
Hosmer: I mention Hosmer because there is generally one or two prospects that drop significantly because they make outrageous demands. Porcello lasted to 27 last year. That does not mean he will necessarily be available, especially because Detroit will be looking to restock their minor league clubs.
Lobstein: while connected to New York, this is more default than actuality. New York has a plethora of young right hand arms, but only Chase Wright has a legitimate left hand arm (ceiling is a four starter, likely bullpen). New York has scouted numerous lefthanded pitchers to supplement the minor league. Do not take this as meaning New York is determined to get a lefthander in the 28 hole, or even the 44 hole (though Lobstein makes more sense in the 44 hole). New York goes for the best talent available. That might be a Cole (questionable makeup) or Scheppers (injury).
Then again, we can always dream of Hosmer or other players, just like we dreamed of Porcello.
Oh, apparently Dusty’s been suspended 2 games
To quote the AP: ” Cincinnati manager Dusty Baker was suspended for two games and New York Yankees manager Joe Girardi and San Diego hitting coach Wally Joyner were penalized one game Friday after recent arguments with umpires.
Baker made contact with umpire Eric Cooper during a dispute in the seventh inning of Thursday night’s 8-2 loss at San Diego. The suspension was set to start Friday night as the Reds continued their series against the Padres.
Baker had gone onto the field after Cincinnati’s Edwin Encarnacion was ejected by Cooper for arguing a called third strike. Baker wound up getting ejected by Cooper, too.”
Trade Damon!
The team could always use another bag of balls.
Or rosin bag…
By most accounts there is almost zero chance of Hosmer dropping.
Here’s what Keving Goldstein said about that yesterday:
“Kevin Goldstein: I don’t think there’s going to be any kind of Porcello situation this year, unless you count Gerrit Cole, who has a great arm and beyond ridiculously bad makeup. But guys like Alvarez and Hosmer just aren’t going to plummet in any kind of major way.”
“Billy D (Detroit): Right now, if you had to handicap the odds that Hosmer slides all the way to Detroit, what would you say? 50%? 25%? 80%?
Kevin Goldstein: 0.2%. Again, there just isn’t a Porcello situation this year.”
There isn’t that much top end talent in this draft. The very good players that are available will be in demand so players aren’t as likely to drop.
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/chat/chat.php?chatId=464
anyone interested Mike Ashmore on his ThunderThoughts blog has 3-4 column of Melancon updates, well I got to go be back later guys lets try this again…
WAKE THE F… UP !
Girardi was arguing balls/strikes, and isn’t that an automatic suspension? Or is it an automatic ejection? Ejection I can understand. Suspension, unless there was physical contact I don’t understand. So what is it exactly that they’re saying Girardi did?
I’m sorry if I’m slow on the uptake here, but I was away most of the day and there were so many posts and I pretty much just skimmed them, without, apparently, taking in any actual information.
Someone posted sometime today that they didn’t care if the Yankees went on a winning streak, but preferred that they just take series. I’m with that guy/gal whoever it was. Said it last night. Series 2 of 3, 2 or 3 of 4 consistently throughout the rest of the season. However, I do think it would be highly beneficial right here to win a third game in a row tonight, because I don’t think they’ve done that all season yet, and it would be a nice indicator that things may be changing.
“Girardi was arguing balls/strikes, and isn’t that an automatic suspension? Or is it an automatic ejection? Ejection I can understand.’
I think it’s auto-eject.
The suspension, apparently he was kicking dirt at the ump.
pretty sure it’s just an ejection for argueing balls/strikes… which is followed pretty loosely, IMO…
girardi was suspended for kicking dirt on an umpire. they have been very firm about that fo the past 15 or so years, lou has been suspended a few times for that. back in the 70’s earl and billy did it all the time but its an automatic suspension now .
i was cracking up watching joe last nigth but as soon as he started kicking the dirt on him i knew he had a suspension coming. but it was great theatre anyway!
Thanks, all. I appreciate the help!
Girardi suspended? Oh boo
girardi said he didnt remember kicking the dirt on him, maybe the ghost of billy really did possess him. if he pulls abreu off the field in the middle of an inning, we’ll know for sure!
Done it three times this year ( but who’s counting ? )
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Mon, Apr 14 @ Tampa Bay W 8-7 7-7 Bruney (1-0) Reyes (1-2) Rivera (4)
Tue, Apr 15 @ Tampa Bay W 5-3 8-7 Pettitte (2-1) Jackson (2-1) Rivera (5)
Wed, Apr 16 Boston W 15-9 9-7 Hawkins (1-0) Tavarez (0-1) Bruney (1)
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Sun, Apr 20 @ Baltimore W 7-1 10-10 Pettitte (3-1) Trachsel (1-3)
Tue, Apr 22 @ White Sox W 9-5 11-10 Wang (4-0) Contreras (1-2)
Wed, Apr 23 @ White Sox W 6-4 12-10 Mussina (2-3) Vazquez (3-2) Rivera (6)
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Fri, May 2 Seattle W 5-1 15-16 Wang (6-0) Bedard (2-1)
Sat, May 3 Seattle W 6-1 16-16 Mussina (4-3) Hernandez (2-2)
Sun, May 4 Seattle W 8-2 17-16 Rasner (1-0) Silva (3-1)
Contract: DAMON
signed 4-year deal worth 52M thru 2009 season on 12/22/05- + he receives salaries of 13M each year in 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009- + he receives a limited NO-TRADE clause that allows him to be traded to 12 teams w/out his written consent (among the teams he can veto a deal to are the CHW)- + 2005 salary: 8.25M- + bonuses he has earned: 50K for 2005 All-Star selection
Agent: Scott Boras
Damon sees the handwriting on the wall. He knows there WILL be some overhauling after this season and he doesn’t fit in 2009 plans.
Cashman will have to be creative in offering Damon and a pitcher (too soon to determine who) and cash considerations to move him.
Next year will see a team with balance and flexibility and not bogged down with bad contracts. Damon’s contract will be the last one of the winter after the finalization of Giambi, Mussina, Pavano, and Farnsworth contracts. Matsui is still a run producer so he may be kept for his final year.
Wow total bs!!
I can’t believe they suspended him!
We are fixin’ to put together 4 game winning streaks back to back to back to back…A dozen Weiners ! Go, Fight, Win !
( I meant 4 of them there 3 game winnin’ streaks, y’all ! )
Did Girardi’s outburst seem a bit contrived to anyone else?
i definetly thought it was contrived, but i liked it anyway.
you guys are off-base about the girardi suspension. every manager knows that if he kicks dirt on an umpire, he will get a suspension. he may not remember kicking dirt on the ump, but he did the crime, now hes gotta do the time.
it has nothing to do with an anti-yankees bias.
Thanks, Don Vito.
Sometimes you lose track. There were lots of 2 wins, 2 losses kinds of things going on, I didn’t realize they had actually won 3 in a row this season.
I thought the first few moments were genuine; then I thought he amped it up and went with it. It was entertaining and got the crowd going. It took the pitcher out of his “rhythm.”
A one-game suspension is really no biggie; it’s just seems that suspension is the word of the year for your Yankees!
S.o.S â„¢
Go to “Special Characters” table in Word. You will see that â„¢ is created by a combination of ALT+CTRL+t. Insert it in a Word document, copy it it and paste it into you Name in the LoHud comment box. I am doing just that â„¢ â„¢ â„¢ … see?
Suspensions vs. Wins
We better keep these winning ways going!!
Anyone here work out with kettlebells?
yeah i spent way too much time with these stupid symbols
Damon is getting hot now and…. he gets the day off, way to go.
doreen-
i’ve used them for awhile.
S.o.S â„¢
It can’t be any easier than this -
Highlight and copy the above line and then paste it into your Name box in the comment section.
looks like direcTV is giving me the mariner’s feed today. i dont mind, though, its kay and cone on my9 tonite.
Getting hot? He got 3 hits last night. Before that, he was 5-35.
He’s 3-20 lifetime against Bedard.
One game is not “getting hot”. Its one game.
He has no numbers against Bedard.
I don’t see the big deal about sitting him tonight.
Let’s finally win a My9 game tonight.
randy l
I just started working with them a few weeks ago. I had never seen/heard of them before.
LET’S GO YANKEES
By the way…how weird is it to see Ichiro hitting .294?
Dang blackouts blow.
doreen-
there’s a russian martial arts guy named Pavel Tsatsouline who has popularized their use.
i only use then for a few minutes a day, but the basic exercises really strengthen your core
this is basically what i do:
http://video.google.com/videosearch?hl=en&rls=en-us&resnum=0&q=kettlebells%20pavel&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wv#
just not as intense as this guy
Why is this blacked out?
“My lord. Type out your name the way you want it Word, inserting the symbols”
Just make sure you pick symbols that are Unicode encoded… not decimal or hex. Well.. thats my theory anyway…
56βömbëŗ
So much for that press release about bat boys having another bat ready in case one breaks…
Not sure.
Only ones that suppose to be blacked out for me are O’s, Reds, braves, and Nationals.
“looks like direcTV is giving me the mariner’s feed today. i dont mind, though, its kay and cone on my9 tonite.”
My9 feed is on 729/729-1; Mariners feed is 728/728-1.
so i guess ollie knows he’s gonna start warming up in the 4th inning tonight!
Damn, no clouds tonight according to weather.com, so my A-Rod hyperbole tonight will be…
A-Rod will hit the ball so hard, a mini-vacuum will be created right there so strong, it’ll suck in the catcher’s mitt. A-Rod, being the man, the myth, the legend that he is, will be impervious to it as he rounds the bases, of course.
Randy l -
today I did that with one arm at a time (lighter weights, obviously). The other day I dead-lifted 72 pounds with them! They really are amazing – you use so much of your body at once.
Nice start by Andy. Waiting to see what happens in the 4th inning.
yeah, john i forgot that my9 doesnt do a pregame show so they were showing the mariners on the mix channel. thanks
Good inning by Andy. I hope the Yankees score some runs quickly tonight.
Time to get to work bats
totally, totally ridiculous suspending girardi. in fact the majority of the yankee suspensions this year have been ridiculous, if not for the suspension itself then for the length. whatever.
let’s go Pettitte! 5th inning or bust!
brian, he kicked dirt on an umpire. its an automatic suspension.
looked like he kicked his hat to me. but hey, the league sees whatever they want.
doreen-
i gave you the wrong link , but it’s a good one anyway. i like kettlebels because you can build a lot of strength and flexibility fast in really few minutes a day if you want.
good for you.
i’ll bet a lot of players are using them too.
and another thing. when did all the other teams put together 5 man rotations of left handers? sure seems like it anyway lol.
the hat kick wasnt the only one, he kicked dirt. i was cracking up at the time but i told my fiancee right then that it was an auto suspension.
Listen, no offense to anybody, but I’d rather not have assorted screwy symbols for names. It’s going to clog up the spam filter and cause other problems. Just pick a name and stick with it. This isn’t a place to show off your keyboard wizardry.
Thanks.
The Girardi suspension is a bad joke. Maybe he’s being suspending for kicking his own hat. I was excited that he was showing so much emotion last night, but I laughted at that part. I was thinking, “Joe, that’s YOUR hat you just kicked.” But I give much more credit for the Cano walk-off to Kyle’s 1-2-3 8th and the corresponding Laws of Physics than I do to Girardi’s antics.
Screwy symbols will be punished with a one game suspension, and no recess for the rest of the week!!!!
The Spirit of Bob Watson, Its taking hold!
yikes… this offense better hope pettite found his game tonight
I wanted to start working out again so I started with a trainer (for the first time in my life). I had used free weights before and the weight machines, and I expected just to fine tune and get better form. Instead, I’m using kettlebells, medicine balls, stretch bands and all kinds of things that really make me use my body weight. It’s pretty cool and I’ve NEVER had a better workout! Turning 50 makes you do strange things!
No recess ? Son of a BISCUIT EATER !!! ;-(
“Screwy symbols will be punished with a one game suspension, and no recess for the rest of the week!!!!
The Spirit of Bob Watson, Its taking hold!”
LOL
Girardi kicked dirt on the ump. Inadvertently. But you’re not allowed to touch them or to cause anything to touch them.
bedard is good, its going to be tough to get anything off him tonight.
yeah, ok ham i just watched it again and i see he did infact kick the dirt. oh well. even so, it was cool to see him get so fired up at such a ridiculous call. i mean i watched the replay of that pitch to giambi so many times and visually, it’s inconclusive as to whether it hit the bat, but you definitely can’t hear it hit the bat. what pisses me off so bad, and i’m sure it’s what pisses everyone else off, is that he took the opposing player’s word for it in such an important situation. that’s just flat out wrong. didn’t see them taking Alex’s word for it about the homer that he actually did hit. but i did enjoy seeing Girardi fight for his player so passionately. i loved Jeter’s reaction too: “it was funny. i enjoyed it.”
I hope Sexson apologized.
Doreen: I’ve considered the bands. Do you really think they give you a good workout?
Sexson looks like he’s 7 feet tall.
Brian from PA
I thought lefties were a small minority – the Yankees don’t seem to be able to find ‘em anywhere! I guess every other team is hording them.
yeah, he had every right to argue, the ump was clearly NOT going to call that a foul tip until hernandez pointed it out. and i was glad to see joe get (or at least act) fired up. but just like our pitchers who cant seem to hit a guy in the butt, he crossed the line and has to pay. still, it was a good show!
That was a cheap hit.
GIDP to end the inning…SWEET ! ( I just checked my Crystal Ball, y’all ! )
dang thang is broke, again !
one other thing about suspensions, they’re a joke. im sure joe is right behind the dugout managing this game anyway. maybe he’ll pull a bobby v and put on a fake moustache and slide out onto the bench tonight. now THAT would be entertaining!
c’mon andy!
The Seattle offense makes me sad.
Doreen
yeah i know, it’s unbelievable. we’ve faced a lefty almost every night as of late it seems. hopefully our guys get used to seeing lefties because of it.. i know Hideki can hit them well anyway.
that run is a product of abreu not capable of catching anything dropping in front of him.
He blows
Man andy need to start pitching well.
He might be the one thats knocked out by joba.
Two out base hits = recipe for disaster
C’mon Andy. You have a bum like that 0-2, you can’t let that happen
Going for King Obvious tonight……that stinks !
come on Andy
andy has had a coule guys down 0 -2 vidro and also the rookie and gave up a hit.
he cannot put these guys away.
that is a problem.
The Seattle offense may be sadder but, I’m sadder watching Andy pitch these days.
He just can’t locate his breaking pitches his off speed stuff anymore.
This is 7 straight starts where all he has is a fastball.
He can’t pitch like that and be successful.
1 run behind against Bedard, especially early, is huge.
You hope he can minimize the damage here.
So Andy is getting his early troubles out of the way extra early so he’ll be good and settled down by the 4th and 5th. That’s veteran smarts.
And Mr. Cone, it’s ‘peripheral’, not ‘periphial’, but I suspect you know that. No worries.
damn Andy. we saw two straight awesome starts by Rasner and Kennedy. Andy needs to build on that. he’s much better than he’s pitched lately. he’s a perfect example of one of the guys on this team who needs to start earning their money.
Kick him out. Thats the second time he argued balls and strikes.
i have never seen ichiro strike out twice in a game, let alone on consecutive at-bats!
nice escape andy!
that was a battle. I’m glad Pettite won but 44 pitches in 2 innings is not a good sign.
Is Ichiro arguing in Japanese or English?
45 pitches thru 2, Big out on Ichiro though
lol. nick in sf, i’ve learned that “peripheral” is one of those words that some people just refuse to pronounce correctly. like “nuclear.”
When you allow 4 hits in 2 innings to the Seattle Mariners you know you’re not a good pitcher.
Andy minimalized the damage, but he has really run up his pitch count.
Was Ichiro tossed?
Andy’s not suppose to make my blood pressure go up.
Hopefully he will settle down..but I am not so sure he will…
Time to try and get some runs
” 1 run behind against Bedard, especially early, is huge.”…,,,,dude…WHATEVER !
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Andy has K’d 5 guys in 2 innings including Ichiro TWICE…can you possibly see ANY good out of that ?…Man….the glass is always half empty…right ?
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We EASILY get that run back and more…RIGHT NOW !
His secondary pitches have really deserted him his last 7 starts.
You can only get by on guts and guile for so long.
Guys will adjust, sit on fastballs the second time around, and take their hacks.
You wonder if he is pitching hurt or he just doesn’t have commanding stuff anymore.
Either way, Pettitte being unreliable is not what the Yankees need right now.
Thats kinda like people who write, preformed instead of performed.
Matsui is really locked in.
They must be using the 26 inch plate tonight. That was as bad as the call on Abreu.
girardi didn’t just kick dirt on the ump last nite….he actually kicked the ump on the foot.
I knew immediately that he was gonna get a game for that…if not more.
Anymore runs against Bedard and a comeback will be difficult
Oops…no more special characters… other than Pete himself
Also, everytime Andy wants to go outside to a RHB he ends missing towards the middle of the plate.
That ’stache On Giambi just disturbs me. Cue up the porn music
Godzilla leadoff single….Hey SJ44..that REALLY stinks, huh ?…no WAY anything good can come out of this !!!!
where did the announcers go?
Ah, it was the manager that got tossed. Since he might have poked him in the chest protector, will that give him a suspension? It should…
i don’t think ichiro was tossed. some umps won’t tolerate players arguing balls and strikes, but some put up with at as long as the player doesn’t resort to swearing and personal insults. i guess ichiro didn’t swear or insult the ump.
Anybody know when Phil Hughes can pick up a ball again?
let’s try and get something from this
First 2 guys on base to start the 2nd inning….that ONE RUN LEAD looks so TIGHT for that Seattle Cy Young candidate, HUH ????????????
YEAH, BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SHELLEY!!! He was definitely due.
Shelley!
Don’t kill anyone!
YEH!!!
im kinda liking this no announcer thing!
Shelly!!!! That a boy!!
bout damn time kid… lol
wow – OFFENSE!!!
Shelley!
This ump has no clue where the strike zone is.
Finallyyyy
Shelly baby!!!!
So, my daughter and I are singing “Shelley, Shelley Duncan,” to the tune of the 4 Seasons’ Sherry. And hit it out. So, now, it’s a theme song!
That is what happens when he gets consistent at bats
Earl Weaver’s tonic: a 3 run homer
i think duncan just broke giambi’s arm
” Either way, Pettitte being unreliable is not what the Yankees need right now. “….Yes ONLY FIVE Ks in 2 innings…I mean, what kind of CRAP is he throwing tonight ???
Just what the doctor ordered.
Mike DiMauro (the HP umpire) is going to make the Mariners bench go ballistic with his stuff back there.
I wouldn’t be surprised if there are more fireworks before this one is out.
Sweet. Duncan gets a hanger
Is everybody alright after the high fives?
So, my daughter and I are singing “Shelley, Shelley Duncan,†to the tune of the 4 Seasons’ Sherry. And hit it out. So, now, it’s a theme song!
Dang, you’re getting me hyped up for Frankie Valli’s concert tonight.
Glad the Yanks have taken the lead. I really hope Andy can hold this. After all he has not been able to hold leads in his last few starts.
ill tell you what, i know he’s calling it the same way for both pitchers, but if i was ichiro, id go ballistic about that second call.
neither of his called 3rd strikes actually was a strike, but the second was a couple inches further out than the first. great pitching by andy to push the zone, but the ump really blew that call.
I don’t want to sound ominous or anything, but now Pettitte has a lead.
“Turning 50 makes you do strange things! ”
doreen-
if you buy some kettle bells don’t leave them near the tv for yankee games in the spring for obvious reasons.
way to go shelley duncan.
am i the only one who had no announcers that inning? i heard crowd noise but no mike and david. i like it but i hope nothing bad happened in the booth.
What a strange sensation. An early lead…
I hope Giambi’s arm is ok…
Shelley gave it a good….whack
i hope Andy settles down and has an easy inning
Hopefully Pettite can hold this lead. He needs a quick inning.
Randy l
No kidding! I’ve been known to throw a bowling ball the wrong way!
(However, we’ve been looking for an excuse to buy a flat screen tv. Hmmmmm)
i just checked and there are announcers on the regular channel but not on the hd channel. so as long as the boys are okay, im happy to watch it without thier commentary.
“I hope Giambi’s arm is ok…”
It cant get any worse.
mel,
Lets see if my Spurs have heart today to tie it up after a crushing loss.
Doreen,
Find some new songs for other hitters. Whatever works.
Pettite’s over 50 pitches in the 3rd inning. Get the bullpen ready.
go smile of the game girl…. good work by the camera crew lol
“I don’t want to sound ominous or anything, but now Pettitte has a lead.”
“What a strange sensation. An early lead…”
“Hopefully Pettite can hold this lead…”
Good thing I don’t believe in jinxes – now excuse me while I walk this spider outside and throw salt over my left shoulder.
Limited instant reply on balls & strikes would have the HP umpire sent to an Indepedent League assignment effective tomorrow.
GRIFE!!!
Just hung another changeup in the middle of the plate. He just can’t hold leads anymore.
Get the bullpen up and get him out of there. Can’t wait too long like they did on Saturday.
Perhaps Pettite should stop throwing that pitch since it appears that it’s not working.
If Pettitte struggles. I say go with Joba for whatever it takes to get it to Mo. Get the preperation in high speed.
2 out RBIs are going away soon for Seattle…and THEN WHERE WILL THEY BE ?….Andy can do it !…and the offense is ready to put up a 10 spot tonight !!!
this is going to be a long game – let’s hope the offense can keep up with Pettite.
Andy kicked the ground before he went into the dugout. Watch Watson suspend him 2 games.
well, clearly 3 runs aint gonna do it tonight, so LETS GO BATS!!!!!!!
Well..we still have the lead.
Hope Tisha saw Duncan scoop that one out of the dirt. Another GG prospect.
DiMauro is not a good ball/strike umpire. Not well regarded by the players.
To be fair, he’s poor with both pitchers tonight.
Neither guy has an advantage.
Just have to hope the offense can generate more runs because its doubtful 3 is going to be enough tonight.
on michael kay’s show tonight they said no joba tonight but he will be used tomorrow.
Wow wow we wa we!!Duncan scooped the ball in the dirt. Does that make him a GOLD GLOVE candidate? Could have sworn that was a conversation in here not long ago.
Hey, SJ44, please, tell us what you -really- think about Pettitte.
D00d, I usually like you, but you seem to have OCD when you harp on the same thing over and over and over. We get it.
SJ44
I think you are right; his fire is out.
The Amazing Andy – watch him make a lead disappear
““I hope Giambi’s arm is ok…—
“It cant get any worse.”
I heard a rumor that the Yanks have hired a consultant from MLS to teach Giambi to drop-kick the ball to initiate the 3-6-3 double play.
Pettitte not fooling anybody – even with the ump giving him stuff well off the plate.
Joba’s going tomorrow unless Moose is pitching a perfect game. Meaning Joba is going tomorrow. Middle relief a few innings.
Attention bullpen crew !!!! ….
You’ll be working early and often tonight. Don’t get too comfy out there.
Right at the RF. That sucks.
How could Andy have lost it all so quickly?
yeah, hes been equally crappy to both pitchers but the hitters are getting screwed, especially guys like ichiro and giambi who know that strike zone better than anybody. do they start swinging out of the zone, even though they have made thier careers on plate discipline?
the pitchers cried like babies about questek but its done a very good job of standardizing the strike zone, but this guy obviously isnt on board with it.
That was too quick
SJ,
If Pettitte continues to have trouble finding his MO JO. What do you do with the 5 man rotation once Hughes and Joba are ready to go?
Did you see that Pettite? Do what Bedard did.
Would they put Andy on the DL?
Couldn’t they just ask Paul O’Neill to teach Giambi to kick the ball to start the DP?
Here we go with the first pitch swinging. They should be fined every time they do it. That’s just pathetic. Take a couple of pitches. I don’t understand why the Yankees are getting away from what made them succesfull in the past. This year’s team just doesn’t have any patience at the plate.
Did Michael Jay just say bugaboo?
Six pitches from the top of the order. Pathetic.
ok whos up in the bp?
Patience at the plate is always good.
Listening to talk radio today, I get a kick out of folks who are worried about what the Yankees will do with Joba in the rotation.
They were asking, “Who do you take out of the rotation”? As if the Yankees have 5 guys firing on all cylinders in the rotation.
Who do you take out? The guy who is struggling the most.
Seems to be pretty logical to me.
The chances any team, let alone the Yankees have 5 guys humming on all cylinders is doubtful.
Somebody is going to get bounced. Just a matter of whom.
Please get through the 4th with no more runs Andy
Michael Jay, Michael Kay. Same thing, really.
Here’s the scary inning…
thats two low throws by jeter today
2 scoops by Shelly. The second coming of Laruping Lou!!
Shelly’s looking good at first tonight
Ham, yeah Joba’s supposed to throw 45 pitches tomorrow. So I’m guessing 7, 8, 9 if Moose has a decent outing and throw 6 innings.
Speaking of, no Hank again before Moose pitches tomorrow. I hope nothing bad happens like on tuesday.
Another scoop!!
Does anyone else think Matsui should not flare his glove in the air when a ball is hit over his head? The glove wasnt even pointed in the right direction.
guess guys must’ve read that mlb directive about speeding up games, that last ‘inning’ lasted about 5 minutes! i like it!
Nice work Andy!! Got through the inning from hell.
He needed a short pitch count inning and got it.
Now its time for the offense to scratch another run or two across.
Andy with a nice, quick 4th inning.
Pettitte makes it through in order. Hopefully that’s a good sign.
Dee,
Your post made me think, what about Mo? If there’s a save situation, don’t they take Joba out and go to Mo?
Alright! We survived the 4th with Andy..
Now the 5th..that could be dicey too..
Let’s get some runs now
That scoreboard must be wrong. A round symbol under the 4th inning. That can’t be right.
IPK is getting bounced, unless he TOTALLY starts outdoing Rasner consistently….Easy answer….NEXT !
francessa said he heard from ’sources’ that yes was directed by the higher-ups to stop mentioning hank on the broadcasts!
Look at young Alex..aw
Yeah at least if Girardi knew he was going to get suspended he should have at least purposely kicked dirt on him and remembered it!
Woah, let’s not bury Pettitte with phony-DL business quite yet! I’m no expert, but I don’t think it’s outlandish to suggest that Pettitte probably has more “stuff” at this stage in his career than does Mussina, and I mean Mussina when he’s going good. And I know they’re very different kinds of pitchers, but I’m only trying to make a superficial point.
But that point is, there are a few times that Moose looked like he was just about dead and buried, and he was neither. Pettitte has had some bad starts lately, and who knows how this one will turn out, but it doesn’t have to be over for him yet. I still like him giving the team around 200 innings this season.
“They were asking, “Who do you take out of the rotationâ€? As if the Yankees have 5 guys firing on all cylinders in the rotation.”
LOL. I wonder if these guys worry about what to do with all that money if they win the lottery.
“Who do you take out? The guy who is struggling the most.”
SJ,
I didnt think i was asking a dumn question. You and i know if that was the case Mussina would have been out of the rotation last year sooner rather than later. I cant immagine them taking Pettitte out for struggling. Its like taking Jeter and benching him for throwing a few balls away.
Money and reputation talks most of the time. Giambi can vouch for that. Sorry.
Just flipped over to ESPN during the break – what is the deal with hot pitchers in college softball?
I must ponder this . . .
Rumors of Andy’s demise seem to have been greatly exaggerated. Certainly rumors of his 4th inning meltdown have been put to rest.
Hey all. A charter member of the rah rah brigade checking in. I don’t know what it is about Fridays and allergies but I am once again pretty much out of it.
I don’t know if Fran mentioned this, but we’re going to win tonight.
GO YANKEES!!!
Check y’all out later.
I love the new Giambi!! left field DOES exist!!
good job Giambi
SJ44 said:
“Listening to talk radio today, I get a kick out of folks who are worried about what the Yankees will do with Joba in the rotation.”
That is laughable…they should instead worry about the vacuum that will be created in the bullpen by his absence…
I guess the baseball forces woke me up just in time to say -
JASON!!!!!!
somebody tell cone that ‘the gap’ would be the space between the outfielders not the space between the outfielder and the line.
Giambi went the other way? Is this real?
I misspoke, Nick in SF, Shouldn’t even have suggested it.
(But I didn’t mean phony)
Johnny Damon 3 hits last night…
Farnsy 7 pitch 8th inning…
Cano GWRBI…
Kennedy solid start…
Giambi going the other way…
What the hell is happening?
This “offense” concept is amazing. Why haven’t we tried this before? I think we ought to keep doing this for the rest of the season.
That’s great to see from Giambi
now can we get a hit with RISP and less than 2 outs?
Lightning didn’t strike twice for Shelley.
DID YOU SEE THAT?
YEAH!!!! that was a very tiny very big hit right there!
“Listening to talk radio today, I get a kick out of folks who are worried about what the Yankees will do with Joba in the rotation.”
I remember Beningo asking Sweeney that.
Nice Robbie!
deja Cano
Welcome Back Robinson Cano!!!!
2 days in a row coming up big in key situations. Great job Robbie!!
“And here’s to you Mr. Robinson.” That worked, too.
He got a lot of bang for his buck on that hit!
Followed up by a hit by Robbie…I like this.
Doreen,
I would think they gotta go with Mo for a save. Mo went last night, let’s see if he has to go again tonight. Tight game the way it’s looking so far.
steph,
will you marry me
Good to see Cano with two hits the other way now (last night and that one) and really nice to see him take an inside pitch and drill it into left field
c’mon melky! a lil 2-out somethin somethin right here !
How was it a double? Gameday only showed it drop in shallow outfield. Someone save the day and show MLB.com it cannot stop the free flow of information.
this is only the 2nd time bedard has given up more than 3 ER this year. they gotta win this game!
thank god we have offense tonight
Cano hit it super softly, so he was able to motor around the bases and get the double. Ibanez had to come a long way to get it.
“steph,
will you marry me”
Now iv seen it all on this blog.
Ok spoke too soon. Maybe we won’t need Mo tonight if offense keeps hitting like this, very encouraging. I guess Robbie’s finally on for the season.
OT but Giambi’s pornstasch is kind of freaking me out.
The bats warming up shuts up the sj44 negative brigade. Let’s see andy shut him up for good
There isn’t a vaccum created by Joba leaving the bullpen.
Its simple math. You want 12-14 innings a week from Joba or 3?
I’ll take 12-14.
The kid has been a starter his entire life. He pitches like a starter working out of the ‘pen. Which, truth be told, is beginning to catch up with him.
Its the perfect time to transition him to the rotation.
They are loaded with arms in the bullpen. Especially in the minors.
They can find somebody to pitch one inning.
They have problems finding enough guys to pitch 6-7 innings. That’s the issue.
I don’t really get the Damon hatred on this board. When he hits, we win. Who is a better left field defender too? Please name me a leftfielder with a cannon?
Someone asked me to marry them? Where was that?
Hey Trisha – of course we’re going to win. Hope you are feeling better.
S.A.-Hello?
Thats for reminding me, I am listening now.
If you had an original thought it would be lonely, Mike.
“This “offense†concept is amazing. Why haven’t we tried this before? ”
Because Alex was hurt and not available.
Whether he hits or not, Alex’s presence in the lineup makes it blaanced and makes every one else better.
No worries, Doreen, and I didn’t mean to make it sound like I was jumping on your post in particular. This discussion is reminding me that I really need to find my Andy Pettitte bobblehead, I put it in a closet when he went to Houston.
The way Andy pitched to start the season, I just don’t think he would lose it all of the sudden and be done for the year, although that can happen to pitchers of a certain age.
One that comes to mind is David Cone. I might be remembering badly, but my impression is that he was never the same pitcher after his perfect game, even in that season. Almost like he used up everything he had in that game and never came close to it again. I have no stats to back that up though!
“this is only the 2nd time bedard has given up more than 3 ER this year. they gotta win this game!”
I really think the Yanks feel the same way.
**thanks**
c’mon pettite – battle!!
We’ll be lucky if we can get 6 innings out of Pettite tonight.
angel is sj44 first lt in the negative brigade. Must kill u angel to see the team winning
speaking of porn, just as i turned on the kennedy/dibble show on xm today, a reporter said that he had heard that matsui has a collection of over 5000 porn dvd’s. did anybody else hear that somewhere?
Angel starting fights with people. Now you know the game is really going.
I guess all the people who wanted to send Cano to Scranton will apologize now? Right??
What’s his pitch count at?
“Someone asked me to marry them? Where was that?”
Damn Steph i didnt think youd consider it. Will you Steph take Yankeefanfoev13. Iv heard of online dating. But online blind marriage. Now thats love.
Moeller needs to hang on to that pitch.
Wilson Betemit starting rehab assignments is starting to sound repetitive.
Yeah, Matsui does. It was in a few stories this year…especially when he got married.
Andy’s grinding it out today.
Sj:
How you gonna critique Andy P for that half inning??? Are you rooting for him to blow it??
SoS,
Sorry about that. Was having a discussion about Joy Luck Club with someone, and I completely lost it.
Game 1 was so freaky that I can’t even predict what’s going to happen. These teams know each other too well.
Have we ever gotten to Bedard? This is terrific.
Andy thru 5. Looked good this inning.
Yeah it absolutely kills me, Mike. See how hard I’ve been rooting for them to lose today? /end sarcasm
Oh thats right you’re too busy policing what it said on here to actually root for the team yourself.
Haha, nah. I don’t think that’d make my guy too happy. I didn’t see the post, so I thought you’d made it up.
A few wins really changes things in the Bronx. It’s early but its about time they showed some energy. Getting hits and runs helps that energy level.
Sketch please.
Any ordained ministers or JOPs here?
Nick in SF,
You mentioned Kobe ham the other day. Is that real? From Kobe, Japan?
Bedard would have been nice in Yankee pinstripes.
So… is everyone still on the DFA Giambi bus?
Or can we just luv the big lug?
May…: .273 .431 .545 0.976
Last 7: .417 .533 .667 1.200
How did I start a fight with anyone Chris, NY? I merely commented on the repetitive nature of the policing crap he posts here each night.
Nick in SF,
My concern with Andy is health. His breaking stuff is usually much sharper than its been.
I don’t know if his elbow is hurting and he’s decided to throw more fastballs.
With all he has been through, there is no way he is going to not take the ball. He is a warrior in that respect.
He may be hurting a bit and is trying to work through it.
When he strikes out this many people, that’s not necessarily a good sign. He usually pitches to contact.
He is battling though and that last inning was the sharpest he has looked tonight.
Hopefully, he has another inning or two in him this evening.
oh no – the 1-2 pitch hits him in the foot – obviously on purpose – lets get some payback and another 3 game suspension
You never heard of Kobe beef??? Time to leave the basement and enjoy life.
What is his pitch count?
By the looks of the survey, the jury is still out on Girardi. I just hope Torre doesn’t end up with a better record over in L.A., because we are going to hear those second-guessers ALL WINTER LONG….
this blog rules!!!
Paolo,
In fact, I am.
You don’t like it? Have some milk and cookies with mike and come up with new material.
Game recap anyone???
Do you guys think its a good idea to wing it tomorrow and go to the game without tickets beforehand? (three of us are going BTW)
Good to see Duncan strike. They are going to need him this season to be productive. They can neutralize that left handed starter if hes hitting.
ok so the retaliation brigade is looking for someone to hit sexon in the head now that jeter got hit again, right?
“I guess all the people who wanted to send Cano to Scranton will apologize now? Right??”
I was not one of them.
However, who knows, may be they were right. He would have come out of his funk earlier!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
perfect hit and run. a thing of beauty!
Early leads do tend to limit the defeatists here. Which is really nice. You can actually read the comments!
They have to get Jeter in at the very least.
I hope the Yanks retaliate every time someone gets hit. It shows chemistry and team spirit. But could they hit a guy in the low back instead of throwing up over a head and being so obvious?
Steph – I saw the marriage proposal when I was perusing the posts. It reminds me that there seems to be no way to keep up with the posting during a game because if someone hadn’t mentioned that “Blanco Bobby” invited me to the All Star Game, I never would have seen it. I had to go back and look for it!
One night Joe from Long Island wrote a post in which he told people to leave me alone (paraphrased). I had to go back and look through the posts because I didn’t know that people had gotten down on me! (Turned out to be one of my personal trolls, I believe.)
Nick in SF – Good post about Pettitte. I couldn’t agree more. I took some heat last game when I took up for Andy and said that I didn’t see him as finished, pointed out that he came right back and took care of business, etc. Seriously it seems that if certain posters here make pronouncements about a player, the assumption is that it has to be accurate. Naturally, I am not one of the posters afforded that “power”. He he he. (However, when you look at my track record, I actually have gotten it right more often than not and the sage soothsayers have really been off target quite a bit of the time!)
I am willing to admit my one – and BIG – failed experiment was Kei Igawa.
Twice in the last couple of nights we have had good hit and runs executed.
I think Matsui’s first run scored last night was one.
Check Robby Thompson for a bluetooth.
Please DP by A-rod, get the run in.
SJ44,
I agree with you about finding people to pitch 6-7 innings…we desperately need that…
But I disagree with weakening a sure thing in the bullpen to do it…and it’s a lot more than one inning…
Joba in the bullpen exerts an influence on the 7th and the 9th as well…
You could bring him into difficult situations in the 7th if needed…and his effectiveness takes the pressure off of Mo…
If the available arms in the pen don’t plug that hole, we’ll suffer for it…you happen to believe that will be the case-I’m not so sure…
Granted, it will be great to see Joba meet his potential as a starter…provided it goes as expected…we’ll have to wait and see…
Oh Captain my captain!
That was really nice.
Baseball is funny. All the sky is falling people here on Monday suddenly start changing a tune. It is a great game. And all Met fans who were bragging on Monday are dying to fire their manager.
I make the champagne bottles pop- Yankee lead 5-2
Bottom of the 5th, runners on 2nd and 3rd…1 out.
Angel is worthless. He is all about starting trouble because he lacks original thoughts.
“Haha, nah. I don’t think that’d make my guy too happy.”
Wow! Didnt know you are a she. I thought it took me a long time to figure mel out. My bad Steph.
Speaking of streaks. Steph, didnt you answer my question of the streak we had in 05 after being blown out by the O’s? Deja Vu.
mel-Gianobli better make up for his worse playoff performance of the year. We need to get in the paint and hit open shots. Easier said than done.
Matsui is on fire!
Yankees lead 7-2
Who has been better than Matsui this yr for us? Very unsung.
“Yeah, Matsui does. It was in a few stories this year…especially when he got married.”
Does this have anything to do with Matsui’s bride being an illustration?
Bugaboo is the word of the day
dayummmmmmm! the BRONX BOMBERS have returned!
That series of plays was amazing. Amzing Jeter shoudl get a couple of ribbies for that
Jeter,
A natural born ballplayer
Game recap: Shelley Duncan hit a 3-run homer and brought home Matsui, who singled, and GIambi, who walked. Robbie Cano hit a 2-run double to bring in Giambi, who doubled, and Abreu, who singled. Now, Matsui gets the 2-run single.
Big G is going deep here!
Wow Godzilla is locked in!
Don’t underestimate beating Bedard. He is one of the best few pitchers in the AL and a lefty at that who knows how to beat the Yanks.
Matsui is on fire tonight!
What a difference an Arod makes to this lineup!! I have to admit. I was an anti rod this offseason. Glad we got that done.
Matsui, Atsui, Hotsui!
That play by Jeter is one of those intangibles we hear about.
are these the same old rusty non cluch yankee hitters ive been seeing all year..???? what the heck is going on =)
SJ44’s worst nightmare. Giambi hitting and Pettitte pitching well.
So great to see multiple run innings for a change
what is that thing in bedard’s mouth? a retainer?
Hitting a pitcher of Bedard’s caliber has got to give this offense confidence!
Go Yanks!!!!
also, ichiro was called out on strikes his first 2 times up, both pitches were inside, the second one came with 2 RISP, the mariner’s manager got tossed after arguing the 2nd one!
Wow, really? I thought Steph was an indication it was a shortened version of Stephani…but I cringe at the sound of my full name. Steph is moderately better.
a mouthguard. alot of pitchers wear them.
I’m excited to see Joba be stretched out up in the majors instead of at Trip A. Very old school Dodger like. And the bats finally looking like themselves helps a ton.
Situational hitting. We’ve got 2 players who know how to do it. Matsui and Jeter.
What did Jeter do this inning that’s drawing praise from you guys? I can’t see the game.
Yanks knock Bedard out. The bats are alive tonight.
So happy to finally see us playing like the Yankees. Coincidence its because A-Rod is back and healthy?? That’s a real MVP.
these games are SO much more fun lol
OT: BARY ZITO LEADS 7-1 in S. FL….. yes, LEADS
Nope, not my worst nightmare at all.
Now go back to your original name.
Bloomy,
Great point. Its no small order to knock Bedard out early. This has to be a confidence booster for the offense.
The Mariners may be reeling but, who cares. This is a team you have to take advantage of when they are down.
So far tonight they are doing it.
At least we now know how to wake Yankee bats up: have them face the Mariners.
good recovery by jeter, one of the best baserunners iv ever seen, but he shouldnt have gotten caught off the bag with less than 2 outs!
“Situational hitting. We’ve got 2 players who know how to do it. Matsui and Jeter.
What did Jeter do this inning that’s drawing praise from you guys? I can’t see the game.”
Really? Only 2? Did you not see Bobby’s hit here? A-Rod can’t situational hit? Giambi doesn’t hit sac flys??
Jeter got hung up on the ball that A-Rod hit back to Beltre. He stayed in the rundown long enough to move Abreu to third and A-Rod to second, moving both hitters in scoring position. Very good play. He could have just let himself get tagged out and that would have kept Abreu at second and A-Rod at first, keeping a double play plausible.
“Any ordained ministers or JOPs here?
Nick in SF,
You mentioned Kobe ham the other day. Is that real? From Kobe, Japan?”
I can answer both questions. I don’t think there’s ham from Kobe, it was just a joke because of the famous Kobe beef.
And I am an ordained minister. Seriously. I mean, I got ordained via one of those internet deals so I could perform my cousin’s wedding. It was in Virginia about 6 weeks ago, it went very well!
I may have done something wrong to have the notorious hater SJ praise something I wrote. LOL.
Matsui is quicker than I thought!!!!
GO YANKS!!!!!
GREAT SLIDE HIDEKI!!
LOVINGGGGGGGGGG Cano staying inside the ball again
Nice Cano!
Very nice Matsui!
GREAT SLIDE BY MATSUI! \
yeah baby its all good tonight!
Jeter got into a rundown and pretty much directed traffic the whole time, Abreu ended up on 3rd, Arod on 1st, setting up 2 RBIs for Matsui.
Barry Zito’s only given up 1 run? That must be the first time since his Oakland days. Wait, don’t tell me…it’s the first inning.
Matsui is a scoring machine!
nice slide. They’re pouring it on now
Matsui’s wheels have been on display a lot lately – I would guess that is another couple of icebags on the knees after the game tonight!
As a Seattle resident and Yank fan this is extra nice.
You think the Yanks have problems? The Mariners are way beyond it.
Sorry, I meant ARod to 2nd, not 1st.
Great to see the Yankees get the benefit of some calls tonight.
Thanks Steph.
Good to see Cano and Giambi finally getting it going. When all cylinders are working. This is still the best offense in the league.
wow, Godzilla’s getting his running in. Great game so far. Maybe if Andy wins this we’ll never have to hear Kay say “bugaboo” again.
matsui is one of those guys without any speed who is still a very good baserunner, very fundamentally sound. its like his throwing, he has no power in his arm, but he gets rid of the ball very quickly and always hits the cut off man!
Zito should really take some HGH or something. The Giants know how to get that stuff.
man all these runs feels good…kinda like when the prune juice kicks in. aaaaaahhh
Harden is pitching tonight vs. the sox. Good chance to gain ground.
Whens Posada get back? We have been spoiled by him for the past decade.
When does Ichiro miss a play????
“Harden is pitching tonight vs. the sox. Good chance to gain ground.”
Forget the Sox. They are light years ahead of us. Let’s worry about getting to 500 first. Ok?
DOUBLE DIGITS!!!! GO YANKS!!!!
I don’t think I’ve ever seen Ichiro have a game like this.
Hopefully Andy isn’t affected by the long break.
The trolls do somehow disappear during WINS.
woohoo
When it rains it pours, wow.
woohoo, double digits!!!
Man, you know things are going our way anytime the 3rd string catcher is driving in runs!
OUR JAPANESE SUPERSTAR PLAYS BETTER THAN YOUR JAPANESE SUPERSTAR!!!!!!
Okay, that was immature.
Every pitcher would deal with a long break for an 8 run lead.
9 runs off one of the best lefties in baseball, way to go Yankees.
Man, that was an absolute bleeder.
Woah man. This is the Yankees team I’m used to seeing.
Almost feel bad for Ichiro…considering he did struck out twice and hasn’t had a hit yet…*almost*
But no lead is ever big enough
I really didn’t think they allowed internet access at Bellevue. I guess they do.
Wow.. double figures offensive explosion.
Can we play the Mariners every game?
“Forget the Sox. They are light years ahead of us.”
So I shouldn’t be rooting for the A’s vs. Boston tonight?
Please advise, awaiting clarification from the Home Office.
An actual bat around????
i saw stottlmyre pitch his rookie year, he was GREAT!
Just got in. Wow! Can we bank some of this offense for later games? Lets not get it all in against the crappy teams.
SJ44…
You or anyone ever note, A-Rod has trouble with fastballs high an tight? Seeing him have that dead spot makes me think…if one misses a bit over the plate, long gone, 54 HRs’ It may also make one understand why he gets hit a lot. I understand the pitcher wants to come inside to most RH power hitters, I know I did, but I didn’t think it was that way with him, I’ve seen him reach for that outside pitch to often 27/08?
Is this the first time this year that we’ve batted around?
Root against the Sox. Root for them to lose every game. But we should worry about getting to 500 before we think we are chasing the majors best team.
Nick in SF,
You’re f’in kidding me! That was a joke because of the marriage proposal to Steph.
Nice hitting all around. Jeter and A-rod care to join the party? Stop standing around getting hit and getting caught in rundowns.
Not only should you actively root for the A’s, you should get yourself a cowbell and go down there and be a decoy distraction.
Would you lookie there…Melky joined the party.
so does joba do another stretch for 2 tonight? Give him a chance to play with all his pitches?
We’ve got to be careful now since they hit Jeter, if any of our pitches come within 2 feet of their players Girardi is going to get ejected and suspended again (and he’s not even there!) and they’ll probably go ahead and suspend Mo just because they can.
Seattle’s having the kind of game we had 3 nights ago
We caught a big break that no one is having a good yr besides the Red Sox. Our slow start hasn’t killed us or put us in a hole for the WC.
Aren’t you all glad Cashman didn’t pull the trigger on that deal sending matsui to the giants for that middle of the road leftie reliever?
Minor league update:
Another HR for Austin Jackson tonight to give Trenton a 2-1 lead in the 7th.
baseball is a cruel sport..
Joe G should have pulled Jetes and given him the rest of the night off. I mean he clearly needs rest for the hand and time to heal…don’t push too hard. Should be able to handle this game from here.
Angel is a Sox fan. You can tell by his posts here and on other sites.
Pour it on!!!
Nope, Joba is going to pitch tomorrow.
A laugher in da Bronx!!!!
Gotta love it!
Go Yankees!!!
Hey team! Save some runs for Moose and Wang too!
“You or anyone ever note, A-Rod has trouble with fastballs high an tight? ”
The only guy I’ve ever seen that didn’t have this problem was Gary Sheffield – Most Violent Swing.
This has been long..not that I am complaining..
Andy could have gone home and come back with time to spare.
WooHoo! Bobby! 12-2
oh this is BEAUTIFUL!!
manhattan project anyone?? I WANT AN A-BOMB!!
Really? Only 2? Did you not see Bobby’s hit here? A-Rod can’t situational hit? Giambi doesn’t hit sac flys??
Well, everyone is hitting tonight so that’s easy to say.
All I’m saying is, with runners in scoring position, those are the two I want up.
This is why you do not take a teams temperature after every game. Baseball is a marathon.
******Late Breaking News*******
Hilary Clinton Seen Drinking Stumpblowers with Shelly Duncan and Chestbumping
ham fighter…
I saw Mel pitch, oh so many years ago also. Later we had Fritz, they were a good tandum, on bad bad bad Yankee teams. 27/08?
And Abreu picks up a couple more. I really love the Mariners.
Now I feel a little bit sorry for the Mariners.
im not as concearned about jeters hand as his quad. i saw him limping heavily in the dugout last night.
i always root against the sox, but im with whoever said that i pay no attention to the standings until we’re at least above .500
This has been a fun inning. Andy getting a nice rest and a lot of run support.
What hitter doesn’t have problems with high 90’s fastballs high and tight???
I’m telling you, a lot of this has to do with A-Rod returning to the lineup. I think that it puts the rest of the hitters in a different frame of mind when he’s in there. A more positive one, for sure.
NOW the offense returns…
Not that I’m complaining!!
Wow so this is what it feels like to be on the other end of high scoring games:-)
Bobby Meachum must have a lot of confidence in Matsui’s new knee to be waving him through these close runs. Matsui is playing amazing baseball.
I really wish we had Joba in the 8th for tonight.
I guess the problem is Girardi all along. With him out, 2 for 2 so far.
Tseng point brings up an interesting question. Would Girardi or Thompson have to serve a suspension if someone got run after a warning tonight?
I don’t mind it being a very long game when it’s us scoring lots of runs!
Wonder how Andy will be after such a long inning
“I’m telling you, a lot of this has to do with A-Rod returning to the lineup.”
Thanks, Doctor! You mean Ensberg didn’t frighten teams and give everyone confidence??
mel pitched the 1st game i ever went to in 1964!
The Mariners look shell-shocked
DAMN the Yanks are really locked in tonight. I’m loving it!
Looks like the captain is the only one without a base hit tonight.
HIP HIP FREAKIN’ HOORAY!!!!
People like ER have to find something negative even in a blowout win. I wonder what critique the SJ’s of the world will have after this game. Dooms dayers don’t just turn back from the dark side.
Mel, I don’t do virtual weddings!
Also, Jeter’s quad looked ok jogging to home plate just now.
Can we arrange to play SEA for the rest of the year?
#13 got the 13th run and 13th hit in.
Jeter may get half a game off here.
Best inning of the year?
ok, send alberto out to ss this inning!
Too bad Chris Britton isn’t around to mop up here. What do we have? One more for Andy then Edwar for 1, Ohlie for 1, Veras for 1?
And it’s past the 4th inning. andy should be golden.
Oh, they finally stopped hitting. I was hoping it would continue
The inning is over? Darn it.
My guess is that Jeter goes at least one more inning before he comes out.
Of the 43 different line-ups used this year. I like this one the best.
“#13 got the 13th run and 13th hit in.”
LOL – cue the Twilight Zone theme.
OH MY DEAR GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Just grabbed my mail from the mailbox…
The May 26, 2008 Sports Illustrated is in there…. Anyone see this piece of garbage yet?
I almost threw it away at first by accident. The cover of the new SI is done up like a comic book. The issue is called ‘Bizarro Baseball’, and on the cover, a muscle-bound Tampa Bay DEVIl Ray is dropping a haymaker of an uppercut on Jeter, flipping him upside down.
Jeter’s face is contorted into a look of pain. Pain, I say, and shock.
The secondary headline reads:
“Featuring the Mighty Rays! The Last place Yankees, and other mysteries of the 2008 season”.
Its by Tom Verducci.
Truly, truly an awful graphic.
Don’t sell the negative people short. They’ll find something to croak about. Just like the positive people find something even in games like Tuesday night.
SI is in the business of selling magazines and creating buzz. They succeeded with you talking about it.
this offense is amazing. im so pumped. shotgun anyone??!!
Hey what happened to that ambidextrous pitcher we drafted?
I thought for a second maybe seattle would go through our batting order twice before ending that 5th inning!
EY
but he does have 2 walks at key points in the game. Good to see he’s not swinging away when he shouldn’t, especially when everyone has been saying he hasn’t had enough walks this year.
Per at bat, Giambi has been the Yanks’ most productive hitter by a decent margin, despite his Mendoza-level avg.
Thanks guys!! I’m at work and can’t see the game.
So, we’re looking good…hope they keep it up…and save some runs for tomorrow.
So, is it a bad idea to go to the ballpark tomorrow and buy game-day tix? Or do you think they’ll only have BS tickets left? Or none at all for that matter?
Seattle is a dead team. They look worse than we did last weekend
Patrick Vendetti, pitcher drafted in 45th round. Chose to not sign and returned to school.
Can we just call it a night by the 10 run rule? I have a Spurs game to watch.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/multimedia/photo_gallery/0805/most.unusual.si.covers/content.1.html?eref=sircrc
Trying to post this cover.
Pretty tasteless. Make up your own minds.
Wow, pretty astute there, Candy Store fella…
Nick
May 23rd, 2008 at 8:56 pm
This is why you do not take a teams temperature after every game. Baseball is a marathon.
My nomination for post of the season!
I read through the posts after I came on here tonight and I have to say that if you are the kind of person who gets easily disheartened, all you’d have to do is read the posts to the point where Andy got past the 4th inning.
It truly amazes me to see so much constant negativity. I hate to agree with someone who once said that a lot of the Yankee posters reminded him of the classic Sux boohooers, but it’s true.
It’s a constant here.
That’s why I always seek out Fran, Dynasty, and a few more card carrying members of the positive brigade!
GO OAKLAND!!!
P.S. My theory is you can never root enough against the Sux. It has nothing to do with what place they’re in. It’s who they are.
I feel bad for Seattle. Taking a drubbing never feels real good.
Why can’t I post this link?!?!?
When the pitching matcups for the series were announced, it looked like favorable to Seattle with Bedard and Felix going first two games.
Now Bedard is beaten like a shell and Felix is hurt. It looks like a sweep is in order, especially given thier bullpen is getting beaten up today.
Regarding the offensive explosion, every one is contributing but Alex’s presence in the lineup makes it balanced and that is making the difference. When Posada comes back, our offense will be the best in the game.
Look what a few runs does to the general mood here.
I usually would feel bad for Seattle, but after being on the receiving end of similar drubbings from the Mets and the O’s – I can’t feel bad.
You’re making me blush trisha.
Nice job Andy
Nice play by Arod. Nice outing by Pettitte when it looked like he didn’t have his stuff early on.
it would be interesting to get a gun on arod’s throws across the diamond when he really lets loose. what an arm.
Trish you take some much crap here from the negative people you should take a bow during wins and winning streaks. You earn it.
what a shame
Like someone earlier stated. 3 in a row is a streek. 7 straight left to go.
It gives me the chills watching Alex at 3rd when I realize we same toat close to replacing him with betemit for good in the off season.
I love wins before I go out ona Friday night. It brightens up the start to the weekend.
Gets no props but hes been awesome so far this year
Pettitte gutted through it today.
Hey SJ44, didn’t mean to ignore your reply before, I just got a phone call and fell behind. I agree, it could have been or could still be his elboy barking or worse or something else. Which actually would make a lot more sense than just his tank emptying out.
And the fear would be that the combo of his age and whatever the injury might be and his not resting it wouldn’t allow him to recover or that he would make it worse. But it’s also possible that Andy knows himself enough to be confident that whatever the problem might be, he can work through it without too much risk. Whatever it is/was, the hope is that he turned the corner tonight and will keep it going next time out.
I didn’t realize that Giambi had gotten off of the Interstate. Good for him.
Dee – I agree. 3 weeks of the Yanks without Alex was more than enough. He really adds so much to the line-up. Good thing that he and Hank worked it out.
SJ is cool, balance critique is always the key, good and bad. The cheerleaders and polyannas detract from any useful analysis.
“Seattle is a dead team. They look worse than we did last weekend”
Seattle is really struggling this season. We know how that feels. My heart goes out to them. I am good cyberfriends with one of their fans from another forum, and she would make Fran and Dynasty very happy if she posted here. She is so positive. But she tells us a lot about the Seattle blogs and how totally negative the fans are there. They actually want to kill her if she posts anything positive or hopeful.
Champagne – you should go onto yankees.com and go to the “buy tickets” part of the forum. That will tell you what is out there for tickets.
Yeah, now it looks like the only guy still stuck on the Interstate is Pascual Perez.
Why change any luck ? Keep Jetes in the leadoff role. Hit Damon 9th.
S.o.S.27
I called an 8, but I’ll take a 10.
Wohooo
wouldn’t this make sense for a game to stretch Joba out? They are winning by 11, there are 3 innings left, why not stretch him out?
snowball fight in hell… cano took a walk. i can’t believe my eyes.
Hes been awesome all season
bphill,
no joba is on a schedule, he’ll pitch 35-40 tomorrow, also we may need his innings tomorrow in case moose struggles.
bphill- Cause they have a set schedule for him to follow, he is pitching tomorrow.
you heard it here first – Moeller homers.
or not.
I know he barely hits his weight, but I like Chad Moeller’s swing a lot.
“wouldn’t this make sense for a game to stretch Joba out? They are winning by 11, there are 3 innings left, why not stretch him out?”
When you are stretching him out to be a starter, you need to give him rest between outings. The earliest he can pitch is tomorrow.
ham fighter…
1949…Vic, Lopat, Allie, Tommy, and Joe Page was the closer I think. Oh, the Scooter was the team leader in hitting stats, back then (not power #s). 27/08?
only 200 more ft to goo Moeller and you could’ve made me a fortune teller.
I’m going to have to head out in a few minutes, but at least I can rest easy in knowing that it’s unlikely the Yankees will lose this game.
Trisha – Seattle had such high expectations going into the season. A lot of people picked them to win the West after they got Bedard. They have been awful. Too bad for your friend.
goo… go
Also, just because they’re stretching Joba out to transition him, that doesn’t mean that they only want to do it in meaningless innings. Now, the score could be lopsided either way tomorrow by the time he comes in, but it could also just as easily be close.
Uh Oh
Ollie Perez gave up a 2 run HR
Breathe Willie
I think I might have to tell Rebecca to stay in Italy a bit longer than scheduled since she has left we are 3-0 lol
i say give britton a go.
“Trish you take some much crap here from the negative people you should take a bow during wins and winning streaks. You earn it.”
He he he.
Thanks for that Brian. But you know, if a few of those people ever backed off on the constant whining and complaining (which 99% of the time they end up having to eat their words since things can turn around in a heartbeat!) it would be worth ever bit of crap I would ever have to take for having the audacity to continually looking at/for the positive.
That’s why I highlighted Nick’s post about not taking the temperature of a team after every game (here you know sometimes it’s after every pitch.) It’s just a more sane and reasonable way to process a season.
But thank you.
Boy I love our guys when they are playing the way we know they can play, but I love them just as much when they are falling on their faces. I am just not a fickle lover! I cannot complain when they are out there trying.
is it a guarantete that joba is pitching tomorrow?
I’d like to apologize to the MLB for slowing this game down with our offense.
sunny,
Britton’s not with the team, is he? He was sent down a few days ago for A-Rod, right?
mets down 2-0 still in the 1st inning.
They’re also 3-0 since Melky started wearing high socks,lol.
And possibly 1-0 since the cultivation of Giambi’s pornstache.
Gayle – I think you’re on to something!
It’s flexible, but likely he’ll pitch tomorrow.
Yeah, Britton was sent down
The Baahstin Socks are on a 3-city road trip and away from the goofies of Jurassic Park. This bodes well. Peter Gammons on the gloom side.
“is it a guarantete that joba is pitching tomorrow?”
According to Girardi yesterday, Joba’s scheduled to throw 45 pitches on saturday
who said the Yankees were scoring double digits tonight ???
The beers later will go down smoother because of this. We need to keep this up and go on a roll.
Fran, it truly does make me sad for her, and for them. Other than the Sux, I am someone who doesn’t like to see any team struggle. I’ve never been a fan of lopsided scores, no matter what side of the equation the Yankees are on.
And Fran – what about our boy LaTroy?
The rewards are so plentiful when you keep a smile on your face and hope in your heart! (pathetically goopy, I know.)
I’d rather use Joba in close games so we can maximize his innings. I’d rather use him for 2 or 3 innings tomorrow in a 3-2 type game than today in a blow-out.
Britton has earned a trip to Tahiti with all the frequent flier miles hes accumulated going back and forth.
Hawkins does not throw hard, but somehow he misses bats and strikes out people. He has been a reliable option in the bullpen. A good move by Cash to sign Hawkins and let go Vizcaino. We also got the compensation pick 44.
I’m out for now…and the Yankees are looking good! That certainly helped make my evening. Have a great rest of the day, everyone.
“SJ is cool, balance critique is always the key, good and bad. The cheerleaders and polyannas detract from any useful analysis.”
Exactly. SJ always takes a beating and I don’t understand it. He’s not overtly negative and he makes some really good points. He’s also a fan.
Except for the trolls, all of us who post here want the Yankees to win. But saying basically “I told you so” when the team hammers the dregs of the league is a little childish.
I’d love the Yankees to make the playoffs this year, but I’m not counting on it. A lot more teams are in the way this year. And you know what, I’m OK with that. That doesn’t make me a negative fan.
I just want the prospects on the farm ( Jackson, Tabata, Gardner, Betances, McCallister etc.) to progress and see Joba, Hughes and Kennedy get over the hump as starters. That and a little financial flexibility that could open the doors for C.C or Tex,and we could be not just a contending team,but back up among the elite.
hello sailors
This team has made the quitters eat crow the past 3 years. Why would this year be any different? I remember last year you had people saying trade everyone, demote Cano, DFA Giambi, quit, rebuild, bring up all of Trip A, etc.
“Giambi’s pornstache.”
By the way, I think Willie has made his share of mistakes but one thing I really think he should have stayed away from was ever playing the race card. His real estate really went down in my eyes the first time I heard him do that. It just sounded so much like sour grapes and I don’t think approximated reality in terms of the situation that was at hand. (He did that at points during his first season with the Mets, as I remember.)
SJ44 doesn’t balance anything out. He is super negative about everything the Yanks do. I can understand being critical especially when the team isn’t playing well but you have to have an even keel and retain some level of objectivity. We all get mad when the Yanks play bad. No need to overreact to it.
“I’d rather use Joba in close games so we can maximize his innings. I’d rather use him for 2 or 3 innings tomorrow in a 3-2 type game than today in a blow-out.”
I have the feeling his appearance from now on will be based less on game scores but more on his rest schedule. Just like other starters.
On a totally unrelated Yankee topic. see below. I am wondering exactly how diffuclt this is for someone like Smoltz who probably has been pitching from the same arm slot most of his long career. I have always thought that the arm slot is part of what gives a pitcher the consistency he is looking for. Could this also then be part of the reason he will be in the pen as he wont be expected to pitch so many innings so the arm slot issue might be easier in one innings rather than multiple ones??
Smoltz is pitching from a lower arm angle in an attempt to place less stress on his shoulder
Trisha – LaTroy looks really good too. We’ll need to have a fan club for him too.
Well I am going to the game tomorrow, so I really do hope Joba pitches tomorrow.
Financial flexibility? This is the Yankees. They could have a 500 million dollar payroll and they wouldn’t bat an eye. They don’t mind paying more for less yrs. The flexibility they want is less yrs on contracts. Overpaying is a nice advantage.
If you love Joba in the 8th I have a feeling you are going to fall in love with him going 8 innings.
Just a feelin’.
Pairing Joba’s day with Moose’s outing and pushing Wanger back was not a coincidence.
With Moose pitch 5 or 6 (7 at the absolute outside) it leaves more time for Joba than a Wang start which can often go 7 and sometimes 8 innings.
pretty smart.
He has brought shame upon his house
Edwar pitches the 9th?
bphill – Joba is scheduled to throw a certain number of pitches tomorrow. They will try and have him throw it during the game. If he doesn’t throw all of his pitches during the game Girardi said he will throw them in the bullpen afterwards.
when Boston puts Beckett in the 8 because okajima is shaky I’ll advocate keeping joba there. Same with halladay, Webb and sabathia
Matsui wants to prolong this game even more
TKinDC, wang also did something to his arm i believe,.
IM sorry but where the heck as that good left fielder from a few years ago gone. I have said thisbefore but the diminishing left play of Matsui is painful to watch
With the Mets out in Colorado, a cardboard cutout of Bobby V. has been spotted at Shea in the dugout.
With no lights on except the glare from Rikers and LaGuardia, it’s difficult to see if the cutout is with or without the disguise on.
According to Michael Kay, Mark Melancon has been promoted to AAA. This is huge for the Yanks in the long run. He will be the one to replace Joba once converted.
Michael Kay why are we still talking about the stupid O’Neill number???
Memo to Michael Kay
Your continual mention of the Latroy Hawkins and the number chnage i wearing really really thin. I am ure the change in number really is the reason why he started pitching better.
“SJ44 doesn’t balance anything out. He is super negative about everything the Yanks do. I can understand being critical especially when the team isn’t playing well but you have to have an even keel and retain some level of objectivity. We all get mad when the Yanks play bad. No need to overreact to it.”
I am really torn on how to react to this.
I respect SJ for every thing he brings to this blog with his super knowledge of the game as well as our farm system.
However, he does react pretty negatively when the going gets tough. As an example, earlier in this thread he was recommedning to take out Andy. All Andy did was give up a run.
All in all, SJ is a positive contributor to this blog.
I do feel bad for Willie on one count though. How much fun must it be hearing that your job is on the line and that if your team doesn’t do thus and so, you’re probably gone. Heck that could turn into a season-long thing!
Imagine if Joe Girardi was under the same microscope during the period when the Yankees were in their worst slump. He’d be out on the street right now! He did everything in his power to turn things around, but sometimes you have to wait things out. You can only do so much as a manager.
That wasn’t diminished play from Matsui, that was the natural result of the wandering mind of a player who, according to someone earlier in this thread, owns thousands of dvd’s of an adult nature.
Just a theory.
Wait, what I meant to say was, the guy just misses his new wife.
Can anyone verify that Melancon has actually been promoted?
Wow! Matsui with a good throw and Moeller with a great tag.
Boy does Matsui suck!
I don’t believe it… a left fielder threw someone out
And right on cue, the undiminished Matsui snaps to attention!
Nice job, Matsui!
Ump almost punched Chad Moeller in the noggin.
Wow, Matsui threw someone out at the plate. Bad slide by Vidro.
Bp and TK, yeah Wang has a grade 1 strain on his calf. No biggie but he’s being push back as a precaution, plus Moose only pitched 2/3 of an inning tuesday night so they figured he only needed short rest.
Good throw by Matsui San to make up for that drop earlier.
Matsui makes up for it and prevents Hawkin’s an unearned run on a ball that should have been caught. Nice recovery
I doubt Melancon has been promoted. Maybe Kay meant McCutchen?
If Torre had of stuck around this year, on a one year deal, I think he’d be dealing with the same thing himself (maybe he’d even be taking some of the heat off Willie?) given the start the Yankees have had.
Ump looks about 25 years old doesn’t he?
Kay could have meant to say McCutchen, but either way with all the promotions (McCutchen, Cox, Melancon) who can blame him?
Errsberg’s da wurst!
I know Melancon was promoted to Trenton recently but he has only thrown five innings. He most likely meant McCutchen.
That cop should get off the phone.
Angel, you’re probably right.
Obviously to be a manager, especially a manager in NY, you have to have somewhat of a thick skin I would think. But at one point does it affect your health to the point that it just isn’t worth it? Does Willie sleep nights? Is the job even worth it to him if someone is constantly spinning the barrel on the gun?
Angel, one thing we can be sure of is that Torre wouldn’t have kicked his own hat the way Girardi did last night. Torre came from an era of scarcity, when he was a kid a baseball cap was meant to last your whole childhood.
Jackson added an RBI single he is 2 for 4 tonight w/ a HR
Story of the day: Doug Davis. Not having to do with this game at all, but he has had a tremendous outing so far. He’s got 7 innings of 1 run ball in an 11-1 game at the moment.
Edwar to pitch the 9th
Poor Willie, facts are facts, his team is probaby under 500 for the last 100 games or so. 8 wins out of 11 and he’ll be ok again.
I wouldn’t have thought so, but I’m not Willie. He waited for ages to get a shot at a managerial job.
I think it will be the best thing for him to get away from that ownership, though. Thats just not a healthy situation, thats conducive to success.
But MMF, how long will he be okay? Until they hit another skid? I just can’t see any job being worth that crap.
I *heart* the Mariners
LOL. Thats true. Personally, I liked the hat kicking part of the tantrum the most. The dirt kicking was the cherry on top.
I think that if Torre did not take the Dodger job he would have been picked as the Mets manager this weekend.
Good lord. Seattle is trying to help the Yankees get their runs per game average up in hopes to get 1000 this season as predicted.
Eric Duncan 3 for 4 w/ 2B , 3R , HR
Matt Carson (PH) 1 for 1 w/ a 2B
BTW Gardner LF, Betemit 1B
That commercial for ‘The Strangers’ creeps me out.
Doug Davis? I think the story of the day is Barry Zito getting his first win.
And lets not shed too many tears for Willie, he may or may not be on the verge of getting a bum deal, but he’s been hansomely rewarded for his services in Queens and he’ll still be cashing the checks when he’s gone. And I have no doubt he’ll find employment — at the very least I bet he’d be welcome back in the NYY family once the smoke clears.
wont be ok until they win — regularly.
willie’s been in new york for years, he knows how it works.
Angel Me too!! Too scary!!
BTW no word on Melancon or any promotion Kay must either know something or spoke the wrong name
is the video part of gameday not working for anyone else? I just get the loading bar and no video.
Edwar has not allowed a run? Holy smokes.
get this guy some more appearances!
This game has moved along considering a half an inning lasted 30 minutes.
I love Hank Steinbrenner!!!!!!!!!!!
I was hoping Ensberg will show something as he gets more chances. I think he is washed up. I would not be surprised if he gets DFAd when Betemit is ready to come off the DL. Obviously Yanks have to eat a mjor part of his 1.7 mil salary.
now Kay’s on Edwar’s number lol
So…can I retcon my declaration of A-Rod homering/creating a vacuum into Shelley forearm bashing it? (.(
melancon to AA
McCutchen to AAA.
i think
Fran, I bet you are right on the money. Can you imagine if that ever happened? Boy you talk about the NY rivalry now? Imagine it with Torre in Queens. And the interleague games. It would be CRAZED!
Blargh, forget about that, the Yanks are up 13-2, just shake yo booty. If you know what I mean and I think you do.
Willie’s situation is just messy.
He wasn’t really even able to bring in his own staff and the 1 single person he did bring in was fired in the middle of the last season. Not to mention the fact that some in the Mets organization have love for Manny Acta.
He hasn’t been perfect, but the Mets are in their current situation due to numerous factors.
I do feel for him.
If the Mets don’t have a good weekend, I really do think there will be a new manager in Queens by Monday or Tues. The Met fans will then get their wish but I don’t think that is gonna mean the team will go on a winning rampage.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
Torre wouldn’t have taken the Mets job. Been there done that.
BBFan — yur right on. ensgerg is dead weight.
Basically it seemed Ensberg wasn’t even playing when Arod AND Bettimit were out AND they were facing lefties.
he’ll get DFA
ahh crap it’s one of those nights for Edwar
I like horror movies generally, but that the commercials even creep me out.
“Torre wouldn’t have taken the Mets job. Been there done that.”
Yeah, but that was before he was Joe Torre.
If they do fire Willie, I hope that team goes into an even worse karmic tailspin.
had to refresh the screen a couple of times.
edwar in a bit of trouble…
“And I have no doubt he’ll find employment — at the very least I bet he’d be welcome back in the NYY family once the smoke clears.”
I hope so, but not so sure right away. When he left Yanks, Randolph did make some stupid statements to the effect that he was not treated well or not given proper chances by Yanks. He kind of implied race card indirectly. That did not sit well with Cash at that time.
when did edwar learn how to throw a splitter??
Edwar needs a cookie or two
I will attribute tonight’s offense entirely to A-Rod’s presence. Purely because it’ll enhance his legend.
On the first game of his return, he doth lay sunder to the ball. On the second game of his return, he doth smote the ball twice alongside the fanfare of victory. On the third game of his return, he doth rectified Kennedy, continuing the tide against defeat. On the fourth game of his return, he doth inspired the team to great pillaging. So writ in the scroll of Blargh.
The Yankees would not bring back Willie. First of all where would they put him?
Well, whatever Eiland and Moeller said to Edwar looks to have helped a little bit.
Nick in SF, I don’t know. I remember reading a story about how Willie sat and cried on the way home from the game where the Mets finally missed the playoffs last year, and how his wife said that he was pretty much not communicating with the world in general for several months after that.
Sometimes I think we make the mistake of equating $$$$ with the ability to withstand a maelstrom of nonstop criticism, negativity, and an always-present sword of damocles.
When Willie goes to bed at night he’s flesh and blood.
nice job Edwar
Nice win!
“When he left Yanks, Randolph did make some stupid statements to the effect that he was not treated well or not given proper chances by Yanks. He kind of implied race card indirectly. That did not sit well with Cash at that time.”
Hmmm, I don’t remember that. If that’s the case, I have no idea what he would have been talking about, Joe Torre comfortably ensconced in the big chair. Maybe playing the race card is a nervous tic with him, I have no idea, but he’s so solid, I think that even if he did make some odd comments, they would evenutally be able to get past it.
And Brandon, were you suggesting that pitching with an 11-run lead was the chink in Edwar’s armor????? If so, you just got punked!
Edwar has really grown up this year.
His runless streak for the year continues.
hey steph its me
Yeah!! Andy gets a win, Edwar still has a 0 ERA and we are officially on a streak, hopefully a long one.
Good job by the Yanks. Nice win.
Trisha –
The Yanks should win again tomorrow. Moose and Joba facing Seattle.
there may be some truth about Melancon, Mike Ashmore has left a little tidbit under his post like he knows something is up
Good job, Edwar. Good job, Yankees.
I like the sensation of victory; it is Blargh-approved. I would like to acquire an addiction to it…
Edwar got pitching advice from Pedro Martinez in the offseason and sits next to Mo every night. He should be better by osmosis alone! but great job by the kid, needs better control though, the walks are scary.
“The Yankees would not bring back Willie. First of all where would they put him?”
Not this year.
May be next year. He will be a better 3B coach than Bobby. But Girardi may not agree to cut Bobby.
Ramirez, Veras, Farnsworth, Hawkins…
Not bad the way they’ve been pitching lately…
If they can handle 7th and 8th what a relief that will be-no pun intended!
they could always replace meachum at third base. he’s not so good.
Blargh
As someone pointed out earlier, the 13 hits and 13 runs in the game only serves to authenticate the truth your scroll speaks of #13.
with willie i meant
Trisha, no question that being the manager of a team that had a huge lead and then let it go the way the Mets did would wear on any manager. All I’m saying is that often unfair job insecurity goes with the territory in all big time sports, and working for a franchise in NY just magnifies that, unless your name is Isiah Thomas, in which case your leash is longer than the Mississippi.
Yes, it sucks to work for bad owners (or owners that mistreat you in particular at least) but Willie is a smart guy and he knows the score. And he’ll still have the paychecks to dry the tears with.
JB Cox
1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 2 K’s
and Jason Lane hit a walkoff HR
You know I don’t think I could welcome Willie back to the Bronx with open arms, even if the Yanks did. I lost some innocence when Willie went to the Mets, not because he went to the Mets, but because he turned into someone I didn’t know. Some of the stuff he said about the way he was treated by the Yankees stung a little. First of all, I always thought that Willie was a class act. I obviously didn’t really know him. His playing the race card, really doing a lousy job with the press, actually coming across as bitter and confrontational, all of those things weren’t part of the Willie I thought I knew. Some of the shine was taken away for me. When he coached for the Yanks, I would just look at him at 3rd and be in awe because I thought he was one of the most perfect Yankees I had ever seen, both as a player, as a coach, and as a person.
And the Yanks have a history of finding something in the organization for “true Yankees” if they want to be involved. I didn’t mean it would be a uniform position and I deifinitely didn’t mean it would be this season. And that’s if Willie would want to work for the organization.
Bottom line, I bet that Willie is drawing a Yankee paycheck in some capacity within two years if he hasn’t been picked up by another team.
Sunny:
Gameday thinks Edwar’s change up is a splitter because it has such devastatingly awesome movement.
It gets confused by the PFX data
Oh, and it’s 3-0 Oakland A’s for those of you who’d like to gain a game on Boston even if the Yanks aren’t back to .500 yet.
Insert winky emoticon here!!!!!!
What kind of friend would I be if I didn’t mention that Wakefield’s knuckler not only isn’t knuckling, but the Big Hurt just put a real big hurt on it!
3-0 Oakland, 1st inning, 1 out!!!!!
YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GO OAKLAND!!!
ah – thanks
Frank Thomas homers off Wakefield – 3-0 Oakland. ist inning. 1 out.
The Big Hurt homers, Oakland up 3-0. For those who are interested.
Marlon Anderson…. welcome to the disabled list
Such is the greatness of #13
Hmm, starters weren’t so hot in Rangers-Indians. Bottom of 7th, 12-7 Texas. Carmona gave up 6 in 2 IP.
Thomas has now spanked the Red Sox in two different uniforms!
Anyone see Igawa’s line tonight?
Igawa 6.0 5 4 3 2 6
How can we get rid of this guy?
if wakefield is off tonight, the sawx are in for a long night.
Fran, I feel you are right on the money about tomorrow’s game, too, girlfriend!
But I will say something that I feel needs to be said, and someone did allude to it earlier, and that is that we are getting Seattle when they have just about nothing. The good thing is that we badly needed our bats to break out, and so if they end up doing it on a team that is struggling, they are still doing it and still getting into a rhythm. So it might all work out the same way.
By the same token, I certainly hope that the Sux marched into Oakland feeling their oats because they just feasted off a team that isn’t on top of their game. Because if they did, they are going to be stopped dead in their tracks. I hope they get the crap beat out of their smug selfs this weekend. I hope that Snow White’s dwarf Dopey Pedroia gets his head spun around and sees balls fly by him on the ground all weekend. And to close this out, I hope that Papelsmear gets his pitches ground into dust, if he even gets to see a mound this weekend!
GO OAKLAND!
TKinDC, they’re just waiting for the right moment to look Igawa in the eye and tell him he’s done. But he won’t take off the sunglasses.
Good one Nick! I do hope their patience with him is gone VERY SOON
Watching Harden pitch is a thing of beauty.
Watching Pukalis strike out even more beautiful.
“TKinDC, they’re just waiting for the right moment to look Igawa in the eye and tell him he’s done. But he won’t take off the sunglasses.”
That is really funny!
Looks like he replaced Pavano as the punching bag!
“Anyone see Igawa’s line tonight?
Igawa 6.0 5 4 3 2 6
How can we get rid of this guy?”
IDK IDK !
Have any of Willie’s players spoken up for him to the press? Players typically do that when a manager is taking heat for the suckiness of the playing. Even moreso, they should, if the manager’s job is truly on the line because of it!
Pete’s last update:
“Rob Thomson is clearly a genius as the Yankees have scored 10 runs and it’s only the fifth inning. I’m calling Hank now to see if Girardi is fired. I’ll report back.”
my response with no sarcasm (with full knowledge that Pete was being sarcastic in his post):
I wonder if Pete is also calling Robert Kraft right now to see if he is firing Bill Belichick for disgracing his team and the league.
all I know is take 13 – 2 TAKE THAT BOB WATSON !
Extra Innings carried the FSN NW broadcast, those Seattle announcers just wouldn’t drop the Ichiro strikeouts. Sounded like a broken record. Thought they might focus a little more attention of the sloppy defense, but what do I know…
I think it most impressive about tonight is how they damaged Bedard, especially considering how effective he was last time the Yankees faced him. Lots of good situational hitting, a smooth play by Jeter and solid pitching. Really liked seeing Giambi drive one to left. My highlight of the night.
Now that Zito won, can he shave that uuuuugly beard?
might be a lucky beard
wow a blowout by the yanks and well under 1000 comments? weird. there are well over 1000 for most of their loses. guess yanks fans just love to complain!
meanwhile my damn cat just knocked his bowl off of the counter. so annoying. fat slob wants 5 dinners a night.
Hey Trish,
Want some laughs ? Go to “You Tube”, enter “Dramatic Umpire” and you can watch a video clip of umpire CB Buckner ringing up the Red sox side while facing Mariano. I was watching this game last season and LMAO. Francona came out and protested about how animated Buckner was. Classic stuff, enjoy.
Trisha – nobody has spoken up for Willie. And Minaya flew out to Colorado today to talk to Willie. Might me a vot of confidence, might be to fire him.
Suzyn said on the postgame that Andy was pleased with his outing. She also said that all of the Yanks were thrilled to have Alex back and how he helps make the line-up better. Whether he’s 0-4 or 4-4, he lengthens the line-up and players like Duncan said they learn from watching ARod’s at bats.
Brandon, I can’t believe you doubted Edwar, as if he couldn’t handle an 11-run lead. For shame. You got punked!
Incredible game, I was shocked to say the least. Never expect the Yankees to remain down, They have a Quality team that just has to be awakened and tonight the bats awoke.
^^
Brian funny you said that. I was thinking the same thing earlier. Where are the Fleas and the Pepper Brookses of the world when the Yankees are winning? Also the posters who do all of the “baseball analysis” don’t seem to have anything they feel needs to be analyzed when the Yankees win!
Nick I said it was an offnight for him I had to say something after King Jinx spoke about his 0 ERA
“meanwhile my damn cat just knocked his bowl off of the counter. so annoying. fat slob wants 5 dinners a night.”
I laughed my ass off over that! It just struck me so funny!!!
Frank Discussion – I am going there right now! (You Tube)
CAN’T WAIT!
i know trish. people only like to discuss the team when they lose. it’s sad.
in my family we have a 4 seat partial season ticket plan for satturday games.. tomorrow i won’t be able to go for the 2nd straight week! stupid job interview. who need money?
Trisha and Fran
Just heard on Baseball Tonight that prior to the Mets game, David Wright met with reporters and issue a statement that the players do not want Willie fired. He said the players take the responsibility for the play on the field and it is no reflexion on Willie.
Brian – good luck with your interview.
Minor league baseball player (Kei Igawa) traded for 10 maple bats
You and your negativity, Brandon…. all I’m saying is, I think that if Edward keeps a 0.00 ERA, maybe they can keep him in the bullpen. If that’s too much for you to handle, then I’m sorry.
3-run homer for Mark Ellis, 7-0 Oakland A’s!
Pat – Thanks for that update. I hadn’t heard anything about that on the local news and I live here in NYC.
thanks fran. i think it will go well.
Edwar, I mean… I put in the extra D because his Defense has picked up too.
Cano actually had 3 out of 4 good ABs tonight, the night before he had 2, Alex is averaging 2 good ABs per game he needs to recognize those offspeed pitches a bit better that’s the only fault he has. Melky needs to wake the F… up !
Good, looks like Wakefield is getting shelled.
damn, Oakland is rolling this year with a team of nobodies! they’re the AL’s Florida Marlins.
Frank Discussion – I ROARED!!!
It is now saved as one of my favorites. I only wish I could seen Francoma complain about Buckner’s animation!!!
I have to go back and watch it again. The commentators were laughing. (It sounded like it could have been a game of the week.) They named Bucker the “player of the game”!
GREAT stuff.
Brian – I am glad that the Oakland team of nobodies is rolling over the Red Sox tonight!
Nick I was speaking about King Jinx
I was just teasing you, Brandon, but you’re now on probation until you learn to love Edwar.
“I was just teasing you, Brandon, but you’re now on probation until you learn to love Edwar.”
I oughta just send Kei Igawa to your crib to give you some pitching lessons Nick
my oldest (4) has strep throat so it’s been a difficult few nights for me. His medication is only starting to work so we’re finally getting some sleep. But if I can’t post, I gameday and get to it when I can, but my kids have been more of a priority than the game right now. But I’m still around.
Trish,
IIRC Francona only made it a few steps out of the dugout when Buckner pointed at him and told him to back off. Youkilis was furious at being rung up that way. I think Kay and O’Neill were in the booth that night, they seem to have enjoyed the show as well.
uuuuuuuuuughhhh. i really do need a job but the yanks have won 3 straight so i really want to go tomorrow but i have a job interview. let this be a lesson to me, i should’ve gone to the mets game last week even though they were playing poorly. oh well. we have tix to the june 7th game vs. the royals. i’ll definitely go to that one.
If harden could stay healthy… man, he’d be a great acquisiton.
Willie is a goner. Just a matter of time now.
Harden healthy?? You got a better chance of hitting the lottery.
I only have a few more minutes here – got to get up with the kids in the morning so off to ned for me. Great win.
When it comes to classic ejection, Joe has a lot to learn from Yadier the Great Stripper Molina.
http://mlb.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200805132689415
How can anyone say anything negative about Edwar at this point?
jesus christ someone needs to tell Oliver Perez 8 BB in 6 IP not a good thing
lol Raven. i watched that clip of yadier molina getting ejected. hilarious. gotta love the molinas.
Brandon, if you do send Igawa out here, please tell him to bring the Moose bars with him. At the rate my order is going, they’d get here faster — if he could keep from eating them all on the plane.
Can someone explain to me how someone can issue 8 walks and survive 5 innings?
okay i gotta hit the showers and go to bed. night everyone,
Raven
That was a strike! Can’t blame Molina. Plus the ump is the one who egged him on, he got up and got in Molina’s face.
Jennifer – that’s why I dropped Perez from my fantasy team. He was killing me with the walks.
Colorado just tied the game at 4.
Umps blow another HR call in the Cleveland game tonight. Replay shows it was a HR but umps call it a double.
A real live winning streak???
Heaven!
You can’t blame Molina for acting like a 4 yr old because a strike call didn’t go his way???
Thats ridiculous. Act like a professional. Act like a man.
Good night all. See you tomorrow.
*pretending that she didn’t see Sunny’s ‘off to ned’ typo*
He issues WAYYYY too many walks. That has always been a problem of his.
damn Holliday at Coors is a dangerous man