Game 49: Mariners at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 24, 2008 
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YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Molina C
Cabrera CF
Mussina RHP
Mike Mussina (6-4, 4.11) vs. the Seattle hitters.
Carlos Silva (3-3, 4.91) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees are 4-0 against Seattle, outscoring them 32-6. … The Yankees have allowed three runs in the last three games. … Jason Giambi is 14 of 47 this month. … LaTroy Hawkins hasn’t allowed a run in 11.1 consecutive innings, dropping his ERA from 10.02 to 5.09. … Bobby Abreu is 8 of 22 during the homestand. … Robbie Cano started the season 3 of 25 against lefties. He’s 11 of his last 23. … Derek Jeter is 0 for 9 since he was hit on the hand. I’d ask him if his hand was bothering him but I know that he would say, “Hand? I was hit on the hand?”
Here’s a heck of a question, who should they drop when Wilson Betemit comes back next week?
Morgan Ensberg is 15 of 73 with one extra-base hit and four RBI. He is 1 of his last 11.
Alberto Gonzalez is 9 of 42 with 2 extra-base hit and 1 RBI. He is 0 of his last 13.
The Yankees seem to have little use for Ensberg, who only plays against lefties sometimes. Based on the last few years, he may just be finished. Gonzalez can do a few more things, including run. It’ll be interesting to see what they do.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 12:59 p.m.: The Yankees play their first interleague road game on June 13, so the pitchers have started taking batting practice to get ready. The starters and Ross Ohlendorf took some hacks today.
“I can’t watch this,” hitting coach Kevin Long said. “Seriously, I can’t.”
But he did. And you know what? It wasn’t bad. Andy Pettitte, a National Leaguer for a few years, handled the bat well and put one in the right-field seats. Ian Kennedy also drilled one out. IPK said he was a better hitter than a pitcher as a freshman in high school and played regularly in the field until his senior year. He never hit at USC. “I was on deck twice,” he said.
OK, Taiwan readers, your man Chien-Ming Wang hit as well. He got down a few bunts and managed to knock a few singles into center field. But he’s starting tomorrow and he wasn’t swinging too hard.
CMW parked one last season in BP off Ron Guidry. The Gator threw the next pitch behind him.
It’s funny to watch the pitchers around the cage. They all have new batting gloves and old bats that the equipment guys dig up. Darrell Rasner was actually swinging an old piece of lumber that was signed by Jaret Wright.
Joba Chamberlain, no fool, sought the counsel of Reggie Jackson before he got in the cage. We can only imagine how Joba would celebrate if he ever hit one out. Now that would be something to see.
UPDATE, 1:39 p.m.: A few weeks ago I wrote that Matsui was a spare part and could be a trade candidate. It would seem that I was really, really, really wrong about that.
He is smoking the ball, especially at the Stadium.
UPDATE, 1:42 p.m.: The Big G would seem to officially be back. The same is true for Robbie Cano.
UPDATE, 2:01 p.m.: And now we know why Joba is going into the rotation. 4-3 Yankees as Moose gives up a double, a single and a homer by Vidro in the third inning and still has only one out.
That was the first HR by a lefty off the Moose going back to last August.
Now Beltre has hit one. 4-4.
UPDATE, 2:08 p.m.: Holy cow, this is one cool photo Alex Belth posted on Bronx Banter.
UPDATE, 2:15 p.m.: The Big G hasn’t been this happy since they opened the Spearmint Rhino in Vegas. He just doubled off the wall in right. He’s 16 of 49 this month (.327).
His updated stats: 28 hits. Nine of them homers and eight of them doubles.
UPDATE, 2:18 p.m.: I love Ichiro. He saw Matsui wasn’t tagging up there but he makes a throw to the plate anyway and it’s a seed two feet off the ground right into Johjima’s glove. There is no player more fun to watch in the game.
UPDATE, 2:37 p.m.: Joba is warming up. He’ll get 45 pitches or so.
UPDATE, 2:47 p.m.: Joba Time. The thing to watch here is how well he uses his curveball and changeup. Those are the pitches he will need to incorporate as he makes this transition. His changeup is really good.
UPDATE, 2:54 p.m.: Only one curveball that inning that I saw. His slider is a heck of a pitch, as we know. Fanned Sexson and Johjima with it.
Remember when Richie Sexson was good? Me neither.
UPDATE, 3:23 p.m.: Joba appears finished, at least in the game. He may throw another 10-15 pitches in the bullpen. Farnsworth is warming up.
The Yankees usually hammer Arthur Rhodes, for what it’s worth.
UPDATE, 3:27 p.m.: Like I said, the Yankees usually hammer Arthur Rhodes. Walk, single, double.
UPDATE, 4:02 p.m.: I can’t speak for the rest of you, but I think the eighth inning could not be in more capable hands than those of Krazy Kyle.
Meanwhile, how exactly does John McLaren stay employed?
And was that the final at-bat in pinstripes for Morgan Ensberg? Once Betemit comes back, that could be it for him. The Yankees have to at least consider Jason Lane as well.
three lefties in a row is a bit strange and leaves the yanks vulnerable late in the game, but…
Nice early line-up posting. Also, nice lineup. I wish Moeller was in there, but i guess neither catcher can play everyday.
A-Rod adds so much balance. I love it.
By the way, what is the official name of the newspaper Pete writes for? Thanks.
I’m going to today’s game. Coincidentally, the last game I attended was also Mussina against King Felix.
Also, I am bringing my 4 year old daughter to her first game.
Clay
King Felix was scratched. Silva is pitching.
Felix is pushed back to Monday against Boston. Yanks get Silva today, who’s always good eatin’.
“what is the official name of the newspaper Pete writes for?”
The Journal News
>>>Here’s a heck of a question, who should they drop when Wilson Betemit comes back next week?
So is there an actual umpire behind the plate for this game, or are they just going to let Kenji Johjima call the balls and strikes like they did with Ramon Hernandez? I know I’m a day late on this one, but I can’t believe Girardi was suspended. They should have suspended Guccione for being incompetent and unable to make his own call.
“who should they drop when Betemit comes back?”
It will probably be Gonzalez again.
“Here’s a heck of a question, who should they drop when Wilson Betemit comes back next week?”
Wilson Betemit
Matsui: .293 avg vs. lefties. (However OBP and SLG. are much worse than against righties, average is close.)
Cano: .245 avg vs. lefties (higher than his avg. vs. righties. His SLG and OBP are also much better vs. lefties than righties.)
Giambi is not a great hitter against lefties (.205 avg, and he doesn’t have a high SLG against them. But his OBP is higher than vs. righties at .404)
So, it is a concern, but all of these guys can hit lefties almost as good as they hit righties.
*almost as well
Chad Jennings seems to think Lane might be pushing Ensberg out and Gonzalez goes back to Scranton when Betemit is ready. Lane has been playing 1st in Scranton as well as the outfield and Betemit is working out at 2nd.
when betamit comes back, ensberg gets released, and i expect them to bring up jason lane and send alberto down at the same time. this way they can see if lane gives them anything and alberto can get to play everyday for a while. if it doesnt work with lane, gonzo will be all warmed up and ready to shuttle back. this would leave them with only 1 backup middle infielder, but if there’s an injury, they can bring alberto back right away. i cant remember the last time they needed 2 b/u infielders in a game. (i do remember sheffield playing 3b for a couple innings once.
I’d can Ensberg. He’s washed up.
i believe tim mcclelland was at 3b last night, so he’s the man. i dont think he’s considered a very good plate ump, but he’s been around since the stone age.(i believe he was the one who called george brett out in the ‘pine tar’ incident)
Pat ; A re-post from the previous thread.
Just a thought …..
Ensberg seems destined for DFA which is no surprise. At the same time, Jason Lane has been doing well at AAA Scranton/Wilkes-Barre and has an out clause in his contract if not retained after 5/31.
Lane can play some 1st base as well as both corner OF positions and has the rare quality of batting RH and throwing LH.
He can give the Yankees a little more flexability with Gonzo covering the rest of the infield positions.
Cashman has to realize this.
It also gives Brett Gardner a little more time to develop.
do guys get paid when they are on a ped suspension? do they accrue mlb time towards thier pension? b/c if they do, ensberg outta be shooting up right now, cause his mlb career is about 2 days from ending.
might as well go back to what got you to the bigs!
Ham, McClelland is actually considered a good umpire, but he’s not a fan-friendly one in that he takes forever to show his call.
Gardner definitely needs some time to develop… but that said, he could add a dynamic to this team that’s it’s lacked for quite a while… the threat of speed. His uncanny knack for getting on base would be a distruptive influence on any pitcher and could change the dynamic of a game. The only issue is… where to put him??
btw, whoever it was the called george brett out (not sure it was mcclelland although he was definatly on that crew) got the call right, and the win put the yankees in 1st place for a day. it was the a.l. office led by lee mcphail (who carried a grudge becuse steinbrenner had fired him) who reversed the call.
I think Ensberg will be DFA’ed and Lane brought up. One former Astros/Padres washout for another. We can thank Cashman’s buddy Kevin Towers for both guys.
Cashman said the other day that bringing Gardner up to not play everyday would hurt his development. When asked if they would bring him up for speed, Cashman said if they need a speed guy, Bernie Castro would be the option.
i think everybody likes gardner, but theres just no room for a 5th OF who bats LH.
So today is Mussina + Joba day. Can’t wait.
It’s time for Ensberg to either be cut or put on the DL when Wilson gets back. I was a big proponent of Morgan’s and part of the reason he hasn’t gotten it going is the inconsitent at bats, but he has done so little here that it’s time to make a move with him.
I do not think he is done, when he gets a real opportunity with another team, I believe he will produce decently. However, with the current make up of the roster, he needs to go.
Yankees hit .417 gainst Silva.
We crushed Bedard i say we score at least 6 off this guy
Ensberg is a goner.
Per CNNSI, the Yankees are going to:
-Activate Betemit and send Gonzo back to AAA.
-Strongly consider replacing Ensberg with Lane.
They are not going to give up on Betemit as they gave up an innings eating bullpen arm and both Joe G and Cash see potential in him. He is not getting DFA’d.
Lane plays the exact positions as Shelly Duncan…so it seems like they wouldn’t need both. However, the Yankee brass has come to realize that the only place Ensberg would get any playing time is at 1B…and they want those ABs to go to Duncan. Ensberg won’t be playing 3B now that A-Rod is back. He won’t be DHing due to Matsui/Damon/Giambi. He can’t pinch run and he’s not a defensive upgrade over Abreu or Damon/Matsui.
So between Lane, Ensberg, and Duncan…one is getting squeezed out. Duncan is their top choice…but Lane will be given an opportunity now that Ensberg has failed to show much.
Below from the 5/23/2008 SWB blog:
Top third: Oh boy, Igawa’s in some trouble. Walked the first two batters, then Betemit bobbled and threw away a sac bunt, scoring one run and putting runners on the corners with no outs. Igawa responded by walking another Indians hitter to load the bases.
The only player that could be released for Betemit is Ensberg.
i cant stand betamit, he’s not very good in the field and strikes out all the time, but i guess he plays more positoins than ensberg, who is also useless. i expect lane will be lame too, but i guess when you only think of home run power for your bench, you end up with bums like these instead of what you need, a good glove man at 1B, and a good OF who can pinch-run. switching from duncan/ensberg to lane/betamit makes no real difference imo.
RhapsodInBlue beat me to my observation: Betemit ought not to come back — unless to be instantly traded. He can play at the major league level, and someone I’m sure could use him.
No, Duncan isn’t going anywhere. The Yankees want to see what he can do with more regular at bats.
It would be Lane replacing Ensberg, if they choose to go that route.
Gonzalez is being sent down when Betemit ends his rehab assignment.
In thinking about it, realistically and pragmatically…these bench players (Ensberg, Lane, Betemit) don’t really matter. They won’t be getting ABs or much time in the field except for a blow-out either way or a rare (once in 10 games) start.
With A-Rod, Jeter and Cano in the IF, Betemit won’t be getting time there.
With Giambi and Duncan (for now being given some ABs) at 1B, Betemit, Lane, and Ensberg won’t be getting time there.
With Matsui/Damon and Abreu, Lane and Ensberg won’t be getting time at the corner OF spots, either.
this joba thing is kinda weird..
Two situations:
What if mussina pitches 6 innings, and joba finished the last 3. Say joba finished 3 innings in 25 pitches, what happens then??
Another, say mussina pitches great and can pitch a 7th inning, do you take him out so joba can get his 45 pitches??
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yeah, we gotta get rid of gozalez, obviously there is no place on this team for anybody who can actually play defense.
it is regular practice in the minors for guys to finish thier pitch count in the bullpen after being taken out.
i wouldnt worry too much about there not being enough innings for our guys to get thier work in.
Shepherd-
Joe Girardi has said that if Joba does not get all of his pitches in during the game he will complete them in the bullpen afterwards.
“His uncanny knack for getting on base would be a distruptive influence on any pitcher and could change the dynamic of a game.”
He doesn’t have an uncanny knack for getting on base. He’s been good at it at AAA thus far, but what’s going to happen when MLB pitchers that aren’t afraid of him (because he doesn’t have much power) come right at him with superior stuff? It’s going to be harder to work walks up here, and he’s not really hitting for enough average that I think he’ll be able to maintain a .380 OBP in the show.
I think Ensberg should go when Betemit comes back. Gonzalez needs to play everyday at AAA…I think he can be more than just a utility player. He could always come back up if there is a long-term injury to an infielder.
HaM Fighter, Martin, anyone..
From your previous posts:
“from mlb trade rumors 5/19/08:
“According to a source of Susan Slusser of the San Francisco Chronicle, “the Yankees have apparently expressed interest in Rich Harden.†Slusser believes the A’s would demand full price for Harden, perhaps asking for Ian Kennedy and young pitchers.”
Tantalizing. Does anyone have more info on this?
Harden is spectacular……but has he ever been healthy for extended periods of time?
“Tantalizing. Does anyone have more info on this?”
If that’s their asking price, Beane can go jump in a lake. Harden’s had shoulder issues for the last two years, which followed an elbow issue, which followed back and oblique problems. The shoulder issues are the most concerning, for me, because he basically missed all of last year and part of this one due to them. He’s just a terrible bet to stay healthy.
I’d hope that the ‘interest’ is just due-diligence. I mean, if Beane’ll take a couple b-level AAA guys that are blocking more interesting arms in AA, ok. You just can’t rely on Harden year in and year out to get out there and make his starts. If they’re in a playoff push and think he’s healthy, and they need a rotation upgrade…make the move. But, if they’re not in the hunt it’s pointless. And, if they’re going well, why pull someone from the rotation to put in a guy who stands a strong chance of dropping out due to injury?
“Harden is spectacular……but has he ever been healthy for extended periods of time?”
No. SOmeone posted a link yesterday to his actual DL history. It’s extensive.
avg. starts per season (career)
harden:13
pavano:16
nuff said.
My bet is also that Ensberg is DFA’d, Gonzalez goes to SWB, and Jason Lane gets his chance.
From Rotoworld:
“According to ESPN’s Buster Olney, at least seven clubs have monitored Freddy Garcia’s progress: the Mets, Red Sox, Braves, Yankees, White Sox, Rangers, and Mariners. It wouldn’t be surprising if even more clubs show up to watch Garcia throw when he is able to audition. A midseason free agent has major appeal. The Indians are one additional club rumored to have interest. Garcia remains a mystery – we don’t know when he’ll be ready, how much money he’ll want, or how effective he’ll be. “
SWB team pitching leading the IL.
Consider the second half with Hughes, Kennedy and Horne on the SWB staff.
Yankees with Wang, Pettitte, Mussina, Rasner, Chamberlain.
I don’t think there is any need of us obtaining any pitching from anywhere but in house.
Can only get better for the Yankees from here on in.
http://scrantonwilkesbarre.yan.....8;sid=t531
“Also, nice lineup. I wish Moeller was in there, but i guess neither catcher can play everyday.”
Also, Molina’s 3-3 off Silva. Moeller’s 2-6 with a homer. So…either way it ain’t so bad.
My concern is Jeter. Hasn’t had a hit since he got hit on the hand. Also, something may be up with his throwing arm. Has he crossed the line from “being a captain” and playing hurt because the team needs him to potentially hurting the team by playing injured? I mean…if he can’t pull the bat through the zone AND he’s making weak throws to first…
since pavano sighed with the yankees he’s made 19 starts (0 in 2006), in the same time, harden has made 18.
“since pavano sighed with the yankees he’s made 19 starts (0 in 2006), in the same time, harden has made 18.”
If the Yankees wouldn’t take the risk on Santana (a trade that I was opposed to) then why in the world would they trade for Harden?
which brings up the question, if carl pavano (who took less money to become a yankee) offered to play next year for, say $3M plus incentives, would you sign him? (assuming he’s healthy?)
ham fighter:
No. Assuming he’s healthy? What kind of a crazy assumption is that? Even if he says he doesn’t have any broken ribs in the off-season, you never know if he might fall on his butt in his first ST appearance.
Everything concerning Pavano = NADA. What’s done is done. There’s no point in trying to make something out of nothing. Cut ties complelely.
which brings up the question, if carl pavano (who took less money to become a yankee) offered to play next year for, say $3M plus incentives, would you sign him? (assuming he’s healthy?)
If he offered to pay the Yankees to play for them I’d still say no. He is a wasted spot on the roster.
I would not want Pavano on the team even for free. He has lost all the respect of his teammates, would probably get hurt again and is just not cut out for NY.
they need to trade wilson, gonzo, and ensberg for miggy. he’s in town, and would cut down on travel expenses. This team has gone backwards since miggy was unceremoniously gotten rid of. Anyone who thinks wilson to be an upgrade is not paying attention. Miggy fit this team to a t. wilson is what wilson is, non talented, incapable and poor utility man. The occasional homerun doesn’t add much value when looked at in the whole.
yanks should get rid of ensberg when betemit comes back. that being said it will be probably be gonzo
This is not a video game. You can’t just dump those players on another team. Before you post, take a look at the other team’s needs. Then you’ll have an idea of trade partners.
Brett Gardner is comparable to Ellsbury up in boston through their stats in the minors, similar tools and look at what he’s doing for them. We need stop ogling the big boobs of hr power stats in prospects, and look deeper to his other qualities like, speed, contact, plate discipline and defense.
westerner.
sarcasm dude. point is they should never have done the deal.
gave up a really solid dude for garbage. team has suffered ever since. thats all.
I think we can put together a nice little winning streak here. Let’s go Moose.
Ken – that’s all i hear about Gardner – I really want to see the kid get a shot
MOOOOOOSEEE. Hoping for a good outing today for Mussina. His last start wasn’t good, but Jeter made it look ugly after that throwing error. He didn’t look good, but that error prolonged the inning and made it look like it was all Mussina’s fault. Only one of the runs were earned. I like the way the team is hitting of late..especially Cano and Giambi.Go Yankees.
http://zellspinstripeblog.wordpress.com
Kevin
Good to see the Yanks are looking at Freddy Garcia. That’s the guy they need to sign. No risk involved and if he bounces back this season it could be huge.
Rasner’s been great through 3 starts, but I’m not ready to apply the super glue to his name in the rotation yet.
And I think when Betemit gets back, they should send down Gonzalez and cut Ensberg loose and bring up more pitching. This team is odd in that they have 4 OF in their everyday lineup, plus Shelley can play the corners and 1B. So essentially they only need a 3 man bench, consisting of a backup catcher (Moeller), Duncan, and Betemit (IF). That should really be enough for Girardi to mix and match on an everyday basis. There’s not much room on this team for platooning and pinch hitting anyway. 13 pitchers may sound excessive, but it seems to fit this team from what I can see at least.
I see people are running with my Rich Harden stuff. Good. Yesterday ham fighter was fighting me on it. Today he seems to be warming up.
Wow!
Just looked at the handy stats Pete provides.
Cano in nine at-bats against Carlos Silva:
.333 (three hits, for the public schoolers); 3 HR, 4 RBI.
Only two other people in the lineup have hit ONE HR off Silva… A-Rod (.417 lifetime vs. Silva) and Melky (.429 lifetime vs. Silva).
Here’s hoping Cano’s slump is over and his hot streak continues. Sounds like, historically, Robinson will tee off against Silva today.
Then all the ‘trade Cano’ fools will hush up.
“Brett Gardner is comparable to Ellsbury up in boston through their stats in the minors,”
That’s just not true. Power is not just homers. It’s also doubles and the odd triple. Driving the ball into the gaps not only gets yourself into scoring position, but it’s also more likely to drive in the guys ahead of you. Ellsbury has always driven the ball more than Gardner. The latter has, apparently, changed his approach this year and has increased his LD%. Let’s see if that holds up, or if pitchers figure out how to take advantage of his new approach.
And, if you think the Yankees don’t look at plate discipline, you haven’t been playing attention. Their entire team is built around taking walks and driving the ball.
“speed, contact, plate discipline and defense.”
That team is one dimensional the other way. They’re all singles hitters. You can’t build an offense entirely out of slap hitters either. You’ll sacrifice OBP for AVG, get guys thrown out stealing a lot and not be able to overcome a bad pitching performance because you need to scrap for every single run. Not that this year’s team has done a lot of scoring either, but that’s because they haven’t been getting on base at anywhere NEAR their usual clip. Not because they don’t steal bases.
If you want to see good pitching go to mlb.com then go to yesterday’s scoreboard then click on the mlb.tv button, and watch him mow down the sox for the third time in two months. He is absolutely nasty.
Like I’ve said, if you have a chance to obtain a special talent like him (and the cost is not prohibitive due to his injury history) you take the chance.
Ensberg seems like a good guy, but frankly, I think Gonzalez can do more things.
“avg. starts per season (career)
harden:13
pavano:16″
and:
“since pavano sighed with the yankees he’s made 19 starts (0 in 2006), in the same time, harden has made 18.”
if you want to call that warming up to it, i guess it is, on a glacial pace.
No way they can keep Ensberg and send Gonzalez back down. Ensberg has no use on this team.
“Yesterday ham fighter was fighting me on it. Today he seems to be warming up.”
Seems to me that he’s saying exactly the same thing he said yesterday. So am I. If Beane’ll take what Harden’s actually worth, talk about it. If he’s asking for full value, walk away.
Jorge expected off the DL on June 1st. Chad Moeller likely send down then.
Hip-hip Jor-ge!
“If you want to see good pitching go to mlb.com then go to yesterday’s scoreboard then click on the mlb.tv button, and watch him mow down the sox for the third time in two months. He is absolutely nasty.”
I watched part of that game. I noticed him get into a lot of deep counts, though he did still strike a couple guys out. He also only went 6 innings. Yeah, it was good…but I’ve seen plenty of more impressive pitching performances.
The Yanks should DFA Ensberg and Jason Lane take his spot. Have Betemit take Alberto’s spot.
Ensberg hasn’t been used much in the past week or 10 days. That should be a sign that his time is up.
id like to see jorge get serious about playing first base. after resting his shoulder twice already, he blew it out on 2 throws down to second and went to the d.l. now he’s rehabbing, but still not throwing. im not saying it should be permanent, but i dont see him being able to handle the load at c much this season at all, and if he blows it out again, its surgery and see ya next year(hopefully). he cant be any worse than giambi and would dh most of the time anyway. i dont know why this team is so freakin sensative about moving him, he signed a huge 4 year deal and they cant seriously think he’s gonna be a starting catcher that long.
why is when Susan Sleusser saids something this blog goes into go get Harden or Blanton frenzy, I’d love Harden here but the fact is he is an injury waiting to happen, it makes no sense to trade for him unless you never believe that Kennedy will pan out or would rather send him to his hometown in Cali, if it’s just Kennedy this deal would be a head scratcher but who exactly are you going to put w/ him as a chip, I wouldn’t add Tabata, Jackson or Gardner, if they settle for Marquez and take an Igawa(praying on this one)then I’m listening other than that click and throw away my #
Will Moose become the new Phil Hughes? that is, out by the third inning?
Here is what the Yankees should do with Ensberg and Farnsworth http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
Dude the game isn’t blacked out today
LETS GO YANK-EES!!
neil, thats ALOT of bats….
BTW congrats to Humberto Sanchez he is now a proud poppa
martin, you do have a good eye for talent, and you were right yesterday when you pointed to harden having a good night last night. i think we’d all take a flyer on him but beane’s not looking for a flyer, he’s looking for at least 2 good prospects, and i just couldnt go there.
Where is this Susan Slusser article?
Link?
Ive been saying it all year. Ensberg is a washed up former juicer. All you people who disagree are naive. Get rid of him!
“after resting his shoulder twice already, he blew it out on 2 throws down to second and went to the d.l.”
He didn’t, you know, actually rest it all that much. he’s also never had shoulder or arm problems before. What’s more likely, that an actual DL stint and rehab assignment will fix it, or that he’s destined to blow out his shoulder the next time he throws to 2nd?
The Yankees would prefer not to move him off C until it becomes clear that he can’t stay behind the plate and produce consistently offensively. That’s not clear at this point. He got injured, and for the first time ever. Why do they not want to move him? Because he’s a huge asset as a catcher. His offense is lightyears better than most other catchers. Moving him to 1B, his bat becomes pedestrian for the position and you replace him with Molina, whose bat is also pedestrian. That weakens the team, and a lot.
What are they going to do with hughes when he comes back from injury? Lets say kennedy has been league average, joba is a bit better than league average as a starter, moose is doing what he’s been doing. Where does that put hughsy.
GAME TIME.
Harden is great, when he pitches. He has been in the league since 2003 (though his first full season was ’04) and he has only made 81 starts. He has been on the DL six times with a strained left oblique, a strained back muscle, a ligament sprain in his right elbow, and three right shoulder strains. It’s not worth giving up anything for him unless it’s low prospects, but we all know Beane won’t go for that.
whozat
so is Gardner COMPARABLE to ellsbury or not?
he is.
http://www.waswatching.com/arc.....ner_i.html
“Lets say kennedy has been league average, joba is a bit better than league average as a starter, moose is doing what he’s been doing. Where does that put hughsy.”
If he’s destroying AAA like he should, then he steps in for kennedy in that scenario. If he’s only doing OK at AAA, then he stays down until he forces the team’s hand.
But the likelihood is that Moose or Rasner will return to earth, or Kennedy will struggle or Moose/Andy will tweak something.
“so is Gardner COMPARABLE to ellsbury or not?”
Comparable as in you can compare them and see that Gardner’s not as good? Yeah. Ellsbury’s superior ability to drive the ball that he demonstrated in the minors not only made his numbers superior, but also made his performance more projectable to the majors.
The ability to drive the ball makes the difference between a potential starting CFer and a potential 4th OFer.
I’m guessing that the reason I get this game on MLBtv is because it’s MLB’s way of telling FOX to take a hike.
GO YANKEES!!!
GO OAKLAND!!!
The rest are on their own…
MOOOOOOSE
You can do it!
damn, game’s not on direcTV, so i’ve gotta, i live in philly and my radio barely picks up the broadcast, very staticky, so i have the choice of a scratchy radio broadcast, or spending the afternoon in my car listening to it on xm.
hamfighter -
give me your email address and I will send you my account information, if you want to watch the game over the computer.
geolink2349@aol.com for me
Gardner isn’t half the player Ellsbury is. Ellsbury has much more power.
ER is a total nut. Why waste your time on a beautiful Sat posting negative crap? Its even worse if you are a Sox fan and coming here. Get a life.
generous
strikezone
today
geO -
I’ll send it to you now.
Everyone else – after a certain number of sign-ins, they’ll dumps us all so understand if I stop after three people ask.
“so is Gardner COMPARABLE to ellsbury or not?”
All you need to look at is this: (from the link you posted)
Ellsbury OPS (A-): .850
Gardner OPS (A-): .753
Ellsbury OPS (2006 AA): .821
Gardner OPS (2006 AA): .670
Ellsbury OPS (2007 AA): 1.162
Gardner OPS (2007 AA): .811
Ellsbury OPS (2007 AAA): .740
Gardner OPS (2007 AAA): .674
You can compare Ellsbury to Gardner but about the only thing you can say is that Ellsbury is the superior player.
I would kill for a win today…
Moose is terrible.
Mel, you won’t have to.
DP coming up for now.
You know who I really want to see hit? Joba!
I’ve not seen anyone else mention this, so maybe it’s just me, but to my eyes he has a slight (only slight, relax) resemblance to The Babe.
I think in interleague play they don’t let the pitchers really try too hard in case they injure themselves, so I guess we’ll never know unless for some unfortunate reason he can no longer pitch, but I’m guessing he could hit more than a few balls into oblivion, and maybe even the history books.
i didnt realize it was on mlb.tv, i didnt renew my subscription when i got the directv, but i still have it and im watching it there.
thank you anyway trisha, that was nice of you.
gardner as good as ellsbury? wow. thats funny
Moose will be the long man by July.
Guess Joba won’t have any trouble getting his work in with this pitch count.
i do not think moose is terrible…however his glaring weakness is he has no go to strikeout pitch…he can get to 0-2, 1-2 counts, but he has trouble putting away hitters…that said his strikeout of ichiro was beautiful
I really watch Moose pitching inside!
I am a member of the ITM club,
I trust Moose.
I really enjoy, that is.
Hi Trisha – well it wasn’t a DP, but he did get out of the inning.
“Brett Gardner is comparable to Ellsbury up in boston through their stats in the minors.”
“That’s just not true.”
While no one is arguing that Gardner is not quite at the level of Ellsbury, I think you’re overating Ellsbury’s power ability. Out of 43 hits he has 9 XBH (with three doubles,(again that’s three) He has four HRs, which are likely an anamole. He’s pretty much a singles hitter who because of his speed, can turn some of those into hits into extra bases.
This notion that’s he going to have 25-HR ability, I just think, is unfounded. In 250 minor league games he had 10 HRs and 44 doubles.
It’s also important to remember that Gardner has not been considered an elite prospect in the Yankees system, whereas Ellsbury was always considered a top-flight prospect in the Sox system.
They are very similar players. Both are lightning fast, good defensive outfielders, with high .OBPs.Ellsbury gets the nod because he doesn’t strike out as much, walks a little more, and has a better arm in CF.
But Gardner is not that far behind. He’s just not. Look at his number moving up from Tampa up to Scranton. Once he has changed levels he struggles, and then the next year he hits his stride and has put up numbers very similar to Ellsbury in the minors.
None of us know whether Gardner has what it takes to be a starter. But I would like to find out.
Whew!
Steph if your on…
Lets talk Yankees baby.
Fran -
I was going to do the “obligatory” – or a fly out – but didn’t bother.
Happy to see you here. I know you’ll hold down the fort a while so I can go and run the obligatory errand. I’ll be rooting in my car!
thats ok,
Gardner’s a bum I guess,
It was just a thought,
didn’t think the copy and paste brigade
felt so strongly about it.
chillax already
Ellbury is God.
happy?
steve trachsel pitching for the o’s tonight. we’ll see just how serious mlb is about picking up the pace! watching paint dry is rapid-fire by comparison to watching him pitch!
It sounds like Ellsbury and Gardner are both being overrated a bit.
Ellsbury is the better player, but he is nowhere near the player some make him out to be. He’s an every day centerfielder that plays good defense. He will not hit for much power, but should get on base quite a bit to make up for it. Think Johnny Damon with a bit more speed and little less power (and stronger arm).
Gardner has less power. He does not take the best routes to hit balls but his speed makes up for his routes. He has just this year found some power. Gardner is also a bit of a free swinger that tends to strike out. Gardner is a nice player, but not quite as high as Ellsbury.
He’s in AAA to work on fielding and taking pitches. He’s improving, so he may be a late season call up. Right now it appears Jason Lane will be the next player called up (he’s approaching opt out period and has been hitting very well, working at first base and can play outfield).
Did I ever tell anyone how much I dislike John Sterling. I was driving in my car, he makes me think that Bobby hit one out. Well I just got home and it wasn’t close.
Nice, quick inning by Moose. Now let’s hope the Yankees can get some runs.
Anyone watching on mlb.tv? They are killing Ichiro for being a primadonna! I love it!
I’m watching without the sound, I thought Ichiro made it look like the ball by Bobby was going out. So I don’t blame Sterling, he was duped.
Bad break for the Yankees, Alex would have scored.
Score?
Godzilla is LOCKED IN!!!!
jeff- Still they drive me nuts. Suzy made it sound like Mike gave up runs in the first, was talking how it is hard to come back from 5 down etc. I still don’t know who got hit in the mask. (Jose or the ump)
“yeah, we gotta get rid of gozalez, obviously there is no place on this team for anybody who can actually play defense.”
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I think the issue is his development, playing everyday in AAA or sitting 85% of the time in MLB.
Haha, wouldn’t mind Giambi hitting into the shift right now.
Ground rule double cost the Yanks a run. Let’s see Jason get the run (s) in.
“steve trachsel pitching for the o’s tonight. we’ll see just how serious mlb is about picking up the pace!”
Good call.
Patrick,
Nice display of numbers except I noticed you conveniently left out Garnder’s superior .OPS in +A to further your argument.
You also conveniently took small sample sizes of both Gardner’s numbers with Ellsbury’s numbers.
Take a look at Gardner’s numbers this year at AAA, which would seem to be more relevant, don’t you think?
Again, I’m not saying Gardner is a better player than Ellsbury. But that there is this wide chasm between the two simply isn’t true.
Ellsbury is a very good player. But because he had a good September and a good postseason, I think he’s been overhyped coming into this season.
That’s the way to get the runs in – 3-0 Yanks!
or out of the park…either way.
Okay I guess they wanted Jason to get the rbi
Seriously, the offense thing is amazing. Hopefully we figure out that this type of thing is pretty fun and enjoyable and continue to do it through the rest of the season. I for one kinda like it.
The Big G! Fear the ‘stache!
Time for a long ball by the Giambino…
Giambi telling SJ44 to eat crow! Oh and 99% of the rest of Yankee fans too.
Sterling’s call was
“Gigantic bash from the majestic stache!”
So the key to Giabmi is porn start mustache. Who knew that the ghost of Ron Jeremy would give Giambi the power he needs.
What a rally we got going.
All opposite field for the most part.
way to be BIG G!!!!!!!!!
big boy’s really coming around now!
(we still need a glove man to sub for him late in close games.)
nice one Giambi
I didn’t realise he already had 9
Can it be? Giambi!
Good call on whoever called out the porn ‘stache yesterday.
Dang I’m almost sorry I ever said Giambi was a bum. Thank jeebus for david cone covering the yankee games I love his counter-points to all the stupid things Kay says when the game slows down.
Heyyyy, let’s see if WE can knock a pitcher out in the 2nd inning for once!
YES !
‘Fear the ‘stache’ LOL!
I remember the ‘porn’ ‘stache movement last year. A bunch of them grew staches when they got hot at the plate.
Seem to remember Jeter not joining the festivities. Maybe he can’t grow facial hair?
Jason Giambi!!!!!!!!!!!!
OOOONNNNN FIRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRE!!
Season .217 .374 .475 0.849
May… .298 .460 .574 1.034
Last 7 .467 .600 .733 1.333
(plus 1 HR more!)
People who INSISTED on DFA’ing Jason should issue a public apology. (That includes you, SJ44)
Gee I thought it was time to get rid of Giambi. What up??? Or is Rhapsody Always Seems to be Blue willing to dump him because of his firmly-held belief that picks at first are worthless?
HE HE HE HE HE!
GO JASON!!!!!
damn, a productive out! must have been a mistake somewhere!
Juice is loose, and cano is finally hitting! YAY!
Sterling’s call was
“Gigantic bash from the majestic stache!â€
You’re kidding, right? Did he really say that?
productive outs are good, but productive hits are even better!
nice blooper by Melky, i hope he stops his slide, he was nipping @ .300 just a couple of weeks back no?
here the come….
*they
“Sterling’s call was
‘Gigantic bash from the majestic stache!’”
HAHA!!! STERLING IS HILARIOUS!!!
Yeah… like SJ44 was the only person on here calling for the head of Giambi three weeks ago.
I may not agree with all of SJ’s takes, but 99.9% of Yankees fans wanted Giambi DFA’d a month ago.
I’ll openly admit I was one, and I apologize for not being faitful to the team…
And once again the Yankee marathoner fans show the “other kind” why it pays to sit quietly and not pull the trigger on every Yankee player who isn’t in your player du jour!!!
GO YANKEES!!!!!
Hey Pepper Brooks, still wanting to get rid of Kevin Long or do you think he learned a thing or two over the last four games…
thx Trisha.
*faithful…
Both Ellsbury & Gardner are on the same level. One is not better then the other.
In the early season, so many wnated Damon, Giambi DFAd and Cano sent ot Minors.
Given how they are doing now, it is clear patience pays. Same with Kyle and Bruney (though he was hurt).
Obviouuly, Cash and Girardi know what they are doing.
Now the weak link seems to be the bench. There will be some changes coming soon.
uh oh correction copy and pasters
Melky was @ .300 4/29,
which of course was 3.28 weeks ago, not technically a couple but a few which is more accurate.
all apologies
My pleasure geO, especially under these circumstances.
Enjoy!
“I noticed him get into a lot of deep counts, though he did still strike a couple guys out. He also only went 6 innings. Yeah, it was good…but I’ve seen plenty of more impressive pitching performances.”
I didn’t mean to suggest it should be measured against Beckett’s Game 6 in 2003. Sorry for the confusion. I meant to suggest it was a good pitching performance against a great team for the third time in 2 months.
6IP, 4H, 2ER, 3BB, against the Sox and you’re noting deep counts. You’re a tough critic.
Gimme 6 innings against a lineup like that anytime.
This is the second day in a row the lineup batted around in an inning. Very good sign.
Anyone going to the game tomorrow?
I admit that I wanted Jason gone. I’ll take my crow fried.
Is it my imagination or does Abreau ***always*** make the 3rd out when A-Rod bats behind him?
Good inning good inning.
I love the stache Jasonn!!!
Jax,
Ellsbury didn’t have a lot of power. Until he hit Fenway!
Seriously, we won’t see what Gardner has until he can play up here on a regular basis. With Alex on the team we don’t need a true power bat, just a little speed on the paths. Ellsbury opens up their offense with his speed and Gardner may be able to do the same.
Although, it was nice to see Cabrera move up on that Jeter fly out. We don’t see enough of that from the Yankees.
Yankee fan in Vt – “Always” is pretty definitive.
Therefore I’d say you’re wrong.
I’ll try my crow sautéd in soy sauce
Amazingly enough, the pre-season idea that Giambi would produce enough on offense to negate his defensive woes can come true every once in a while
ham fighter,
Get your DVR ready for Kershaw’s debut tomorrow.
Abreu, you don’t have to head butt the wall! I swear that guy hates walls so much, he sleeps outside. Up top!
yeah sure, Moose, give the 4 runs right back now.
You know, rather than any fan having to admit they got one wrong, wouldn’t it be much better to take a bigger lesson away from this Giambi scenario and that is that there is really such a thing as being far too precipitous, and you are on pretty thin ice when you do it (1) in the game of baseball; (2)relatively early in a season; and (3) with respect to anyone wearing pinstripes!
All we are saying,
is give patience a chance!
I will still stand firm that Giambi needs to be replaced. Recent hot streak does not excuse his lack of production and defensive liabilities.
HR was nice but since everyone pounds on “it is a long season”, then he will still end up doing more harm than good.
Forget Gardner (whom I like and agree is perhaps a shade below Ellsbury– but just a shade when you consider his current numbers at AAA), watch out for Action Jackson, who is heating up at Trenton.
Does Kay have to explain why moose pitches from the stretch the way he does every single time moose pitches?
…actually, scratch that
I’ll figure out a way to attribute that HR to A-Rod, somehow!
I just feel the need to mention how much I love the novelty of watching runners stay put behind some of our OFs.
bye bye
Not to be a buzz kill – but Giambi is hitting .223!
I never was in the DFA crowd, and I am THRILLED to see him contribute.
I wonder who is responsible for the rules regarding long hair and shaving, etc. Was it George S? Did it predate him? Will Hank keep it going?
Uh oh. Moose with his specialty.
Butt ugly
No it is NOT time to DFA Moose, no matter how disappointed you feel in his giving up that homer.
Trust me.
bye bye…
Lets not put Giambi in the all star game for playing 2 good weeks of ball. His defense still sucks.
Welcome back 95 year old Mussina. Yet another game in a row that he has nothing. He is pathetic. Just like last year he won a couple of games in a row and couldn’t get anyone out after that. I am glad that everyone was complaining that the Yanks can’t hit…but they give Mussina 4 runs and they are gone immediately. What a disgrace against a dead awful team, time for retirement…
Another YS HR. I’m thinking right now to push the fences back. Should be 330 ft in RF.
Giambi is best utilized as a DH, is defense still hurts the team.
Moose is cooked. I think we’ll see Joba in the 4th or 5th today. If he comes in during a tie game in the 5th and pitches lights out, then is the team being hurt by the Joba transition? Obviously not.
trisha
Enough with the preachy posts. No one has attacked Moose.
It was only a matter of time before he started blowing leads in the next inning again.
And back to reality for Mussina and the Yanks.
that sound you just heard, all the air let out of the baloon.
ugh. those stranded guys loom large now.
I was just gonna say, yanks still have the lead relax folks!
The security blanket here is we’re facing Silva and not Felix
martin, good eye again! kershaw’s gotta be the hardest-luck pitcher in the minors 0-3 with a 2.28 era. hes given up 2ER or less in 9 of his 10 starts! (gave up no runs 5 of those 10 games!) unfortunatly yahoo hasnt made him available to add, b/c i would have for tomorrow’s start if he was.
There is nothing worse than giving back runs in the opponents next at bat that your offense gave you.
jOBA….. say hello to your rotation spot.
Moose is at it again.
Job will get to pitch his 50 pitches in the game.
I am glad Cashman gave Mussina a $23m 2 year extension to kill them for 2 years straight. Makes sense for a 95 year old.
“I will still stand firm that Giambi needs to be replaced. Recent hot streak does not excuse his lack of production and defensive liabilities.”
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Well, we never know what a full season will bring, but let’s forget the hot streak and look at Giambi for the full season so far:
1st in HRs
2nd in RBI
2nd in OBP
3rd in OPS
And the HR and RBI based on far fewer ABs then other starters.
correction
No one HAD attacked moose
They’re talking about Moose. Who cares. As long as the other guys don’t get down and keep fighting.
Okay, offense – get back to work.
as long as moose keeps it close, its our advantage. ill take jobamo for 4 innings against thier entire bp. putz is hot after a slow start but the rest are garbage.
It’s ok, we’ll just win by outsmashing them, kinda like old times!
At least it’s still early in the game.
Not to sound negative, because that’s not my intent, but I truly don’t think the Yankees are going to have to worry too much about having 5 (or more) pitchers running on all cylinders simultaneously.
Things are going to sort themselves out, rotation-wise.
The bottom of the second was such a pretty inning. No reason to think the Yankees can’t do more damage.
And, of course, Joba will be in the game at some point.
ham fighter,
Thank you. (Taking bows) Thank you. You see that curve ball he threw Sean Casey in spring training that’s all over YouTube?
No, he’s not available yet in Yahoo. That’s why I don’t like Yahoo leagues. They never have the guy posted in time and you oftentimes miss the first two starts. ESPN leagues are all over the up-and-comers. They even already have David Price available.
Way to go Moose, what is your excuse today?
Offensivley, Giambi is doing good.
In fact he has been hitting for a while.
If he maintains it, he will be a force in the lineup.
Regarding defense, he can be replaced in the late innings, but unfortunately we do not have a good replacemnet at this time, though many are better than him.
RETIRE MOOSE PLEASE
Rebecca,
Where are you? Orange vs. Virginia in LAX on espn2. OT tied at 11.
Just when you thought the Yanks could do something, Moose pitches
“Way to go Moose, what is your excuse today?”
Good point. Its usually an error on his teammates that makes him crap his pants.
Moose, Kennedy, Hughes…………..UGH, UGH, and UGH
isnt it amazing how in 2 or 3 weeks someone goes from a bum to a hero? (matsui, cano, giambi) we should all try to remember the season is a marathon…
Right, usually an error and Moose starts crying, today, he just is Moose, giving up at least 5 if not more
matt and Mike went from a hero to a bum.
Giambi is really seeing the ball well and mashing it.
Now someone has to get the two runs in with two out left.
Whoa! G-string, I mean, G-man.
Kay, please refrain from saying Red Hot Giambi.
Let’s go Cano!
Well, I don’t think Giambi is hitting his weight yet LOL
a little prediction here
joba’s 1st mlb start will be 6/11 @ oakland.
i figure 3 ip today and 3 ip on wednesday, then 4 on 6/2 and 4 again on 6/7, then you start him on 6/11 looking for 5 innings in his 1st start.
Long John Giambi
1st in HRs
2nd in RBI
2nd in OBP
3rd in OPS
And the HR and RBI based on far fewer ABs then other starters
On a team that can’t hit and hasn’t been hitting, that is not much to write home about, especially when you have more HR’s than you do singles, which he did at one point.
But I am guessing he also leads the team in “hitting into the shift” and pop ups.
Jose!! Help your pitcher!!
sorry i meant 6/12 for the 1st start (ran out of fingers)
And Cano batting .218,,,bum
Smart move walking Cano.
Fat bu*** Molina better drive a run in here
GiDP?
Anything but a ground ball, Jose. Just like little league.
Thanks Molina, you stink
Bases loaded, one out, Molina can’t take a pitch
michael kay just mentioned that santana did the same thing that joba is.. started in the bullpen and came into the rotation..
is this true??? i never knew that, this should just prove that joba is a starter!!!!
you just have to wonder how joba tempers the adrenaline and mixes pitches.. he looks great pumping 15 fastballs.. but lets see what happens when you mix all 4 pitches in.
HORRIBLE
And the Melkman delivers!
Great to grab the lead back right away, but I feel very nervous now with only a 1 run lead. We need more boys!!
Score GIAMBI
Will Michael Kay stop with the Japan stuff? We get it!!!
“On a team that can’t hit and hasn’t been hitting, that is not much to write home about, especially when you have more HR’s than you do singles, which he did at one point.”
So, you are saying Giambi is doing better than others on the team…. It is a fact he is leading or second in all those categories.
I am going to coach this team, and there will be changes
“is this true??? i never knew that, this should just prove that joba is a starter!!!!”
It proves nothing, but it is true.
Take the 3-1 pitch Damon
Pete- the Spearmint Rhino comment had me in tears… hilarious!
Dont swing
damage pitch right here!
TAKE
Nice cut on a 3-1 pitch. Jeesh!
Never hit a 3-1 pitch. Make the pitcher pitch to you on a 3-2 count, pressure on him, that is basic baseball.
Let’s go, Moose!
Horrible AB by Damon, down right HORRIBLE and Molina also
Yeah he shouldnt have swung…..3-1 bases loaded, I’d take every time
Jason Giambi is killing this team, the way he clogs up the basepaths.
Come on Moose, prove me right again by giving up the lead, you Bum.
Molina’s at bat was worse than Damon. At least JD took some pitches.
I see joba riding the stationary bike back in the pen – he is getting warmed up to start thinking about coming in – maybe sooner than later the way it’s lookin! THat’s ok , Moose still has a winning record but you can really understand why the push for joba in the rotation is now.
“Never hit a 3-1 pitch. Make the pitcher pitch to you on a 3-2 count, pressure on him, that is basic baseball.”
Wouldn’t go that far. You pick a spot. If the pitch is there, you swing. If not, you take. No way the pitch he swung at was in a spot a hitter woild want it.
Yet another not perfect throw by Jeets. Wonder what that’s about.
I got a good look at the “Giambi Porn Stache” and wow – It really is! I guess he will need to keep it around now that he is hitting. Gonna take some gettin used to!
Is it just me or are jeter and arod getting along a lot better this season than previous ones? seems like their friendship is back on track…
I don’t think it is a coincidence that Melky has suddenly started to revive his offense with A-Rod back in the dugout. Melky reportedly looks to A-Rod (and Bobby) for advice and support. He was killing it in April and disappeared when A-Rod went down.
I figure Moose for 5, Joba 6+7 (45 pitch limit today), Farnsy and Mo.
Oh that can’t be good when we are comparing our $10mm leadoff hitter’s ABs to our backup catcher’s ABs.
Surprizingly efficient inning from Moose.
Now offense should get a couple of runs with the heart of the lineup coming up.
pitchers trying to hit the ball out in bp doesnt do much for me. if they were working hard on bunting or hitting the ball to the right side, id feel alot better about it.
go moose
“Hey this is victor martinez”
Anyone else on mlb.tv sick of that commercial yet? lol
Moose is living proof that water seeks it own level. He’s not that good anymore. An adequate low end of the rotation guy, nothing more. Decent 5-6 innings is the upper limit.
Chris
Did you know that Igawa and Dice K are both Japanese. So if Ichiro was traded to the Yankees, and the Yankees played the soxs, we’d have Matsui in left, Ichiro in center, Igawa pitching, and dice pitching for the soxs. we’d have 4 Japanese pitchers on the field.
Yanks should be up 12-4
Pete? I’m confused. While the photo on that blog is indeed magnificent, and it does indeed also look surprisingly like Alex, the number 7 on the back of the player’s shirt might just be a clue that… you know, maybe… it’s not Alex.
Or have I missed something?
OK… the Yankees suck. Lets compare Jason to all other 1Bman in the AL. The are 14 who qualify.
tied 1st in HRs
3rd in OPS
4nd in OBP
8th in RBI
And the HR and RBI based on far fewer ABs then other starters. He’s KILLING this team!
Man, would it kill these guys to look at some pitches?
Don’t forget Fukodome and the Mariner’s catcher… I think if Kay was calling that game he’d get so excited he’d bust a blood vessel in his forehead…
Owlnation
Some dude named Alex POSTED it.
“Anyone else on mlb.tv sick of that commercial yet? lol”
I liked it better when they didn’t do commercials between breaks. The MLB.TV logo was just fine.
ugly
uh… ok… I understand now… the name of the guy that does the blog is Alex… doh, my stupid.
Seriously though, that does look like the back of A-Rod’s head.
Chris yes and if Fukdome and the Mariners catcher was traded we’d have a team of Japanese players. Imagine that.
Mussina has done the job. One more inning and it is a good game from him.
“Never hit a 3-1 pitch. Make the pitcher pitch to you on a 3-2 count, pressure on him, that is basic baseball.”
This is a top ten senseless baseball thought ever posted on this blog.
3-1 is the best possible count to swing (2-0 being 2nd best). The pitcher has to throw a strike or you are on base.
3-2 you have to defend the plate to prevent being struck out.
Geesh.
check out the banner ad on top of yankees.com!
http://newyork.yankees.mlb.com.....038;y=2008
OK,
2 more innings
Fredo.. it obviously proves that you value a great arm as a starter instead of an 8th inning guy.
sure, it doesnt say what joba will be as a starter.. but that he should atleast move to the rotation.. no questions.
0-2 count, then a double, fabulous moose
I realize Giambi isn’t a gold glover, but looking at his fielding numbers so far this season, he isn’t killing us in the field.
I love that Photo of the Mick.
It’s my desktop background hah.
TKIN, know a little about baseball and the situation. Bases loaded, pitcher struggling 3-1 count. Your gonna get the same pitch on 3-2. Therefore, you MAKE THE PITCHER throw you ANOTHER pitch, pressure is on him. You get the fastball at 3-1 and 3-2, hence, you put pressure on the pitcher. That was HORRIBLE in that situation
When you make the pitcher throw another pressure pitch, it could be ball 4, if you swing at 3-1, and can NEVER be ball 4
BEEEEEEE-AUTIFUL pitch!
Do they let Moose pitch one more or do they bring Joba in?
Godzilla/Ichiro/Fukudome for outfield
Iguchi for 2nd base, the other Matsui (Kazuo) for shortstop, though he’s more of a 2nd baseman now, I believe
Joujima catches
Then Matsuzaka, Igawa, or Kuroda on the mound (or pick one of the Japanese relievers for later in the game)
That’s the highest concentration of Japanese players a MLB can hypothetically put out on the field at a given moment that I can think of now (anybody know of any Japanese 1st or 3rd basemen in MLB?)
ok outing for moose, after all thats all we can ask of him at this point, keep us in the game.
Nice job of getting it back together by MOOOOOOOSE!
a MLB team, that is
A great inning, one more.
iwamura, the ray’s leadoff man is another 2Bman
Giambi, Cano, Molina, Ensberg, Melky are all horrible hitter right now. Is anyone of them batting .250 or better? Maybe Melky. Damon last inning on 3-1 count, bases loaded, popped out to shortstop AGAIN take a pitch, put pressure back on the pitcher. Yanks don’t know the basics
Moose was OK, but he’s leaving Joba with no room for error which is kind of tough…
Oh, I forgot Duncan who shouldn’t even be in the Majors. He is one horrible hitter.
“Moose is living proof that water seeks it own level.”
Doesn’t hot air seek its own level too?
“iwamura, the ray’s leadoff man is another 2Bman”
He came into the league as a 3B; he was just moved to 2B this year.
ham fighter: Ooh, right, thanks for the reminder
Hmm, Iwamura used to play 3rd base, so he can slide in there…now we’re just missing a 1st basemen for the all-Japanese fielding
I think Molina swings at more first pitches than anyone.
With respect to the TJ Rehab Watch, anyone know what’s up with my boy Humberto. I thought he was supposed to be pitching to batters in 10-14 days…about 10-14 days ago?
russ, good call on cano, the guy’s really sucking at the plate these days. i guess he should have taken that one. i mean, if he knew ‘the basics’ right?
Fat butt Molina left about 100 guys on this game
“When you make the pitcher throw another pressure pitch, it could be ball 4, if you swing at 3-1, and can NEVER be ball 4″
I bow to your invincible logic. 100+ years of baseball knowledge have been shown incorrect.
Right Ham, his is batting what .223, he is OUTSTANDING…he is going to win the batting title this year, get a clue
“Fat butt Molina left about 100 guys on this game”
Don’t hate on Molina. There was a time when he was the only one hitting on this team. That hamstring injury screwed him up.
TK, please, if the Yanks would show some patience they would be up 10-4 or better. They are most likely going to lose today. They can’t hold a one run lead
Now the games have been shortened to five innings. Joba 6-7-8. Mo 9.
Fat Butt Molina is saving our bacon behind the plate, where he’s being paid to do it and where it counts most for us. He also has hit some balls very hard. Sorry they didn’t fall in. That’s life, cowboy.
chris – i thought that too – I think they put all the dumb stuff behind them and they are both focusing on leading the team together.
russ hates on all of them, Molina is only his latest
3 for Joba, than to Mo.
Laura -
You have to give russ one thing. He is an equal opportunity hater. He hates on everyone on the team!
russ, you’re an idiot. This is Robinson Cano. What you saw in the beginning of the season was not Cano. Proof? Just look at his stats from uhhh, EVERY YEAR of his career… He’s one of the best hitters on the Yankees. Right now, it looks mighty difficult to get him out.
“TK, please, if the Yanks would show some patience they would be up 10-4 or better. They are most likely going to lose today. They can’t hold a one run lead”
What color is the sky in the world you live in?
Too bad it isn’t a bigger lead. Joba will give up at least one run.
russ, seriously, how old are you?
Great pick by joba
nice Joba!! That throw to Jason had some zip on it
Humberto Sanchez is still throwing bullpen sessions, should begin throwing to batters soon, but in simulated setting. His injury was fairly serious, and he is a larger player so it will take some time. He is on track however.
“When you make the pitcher throw another pressure pitch, it could be ball 4, if you swing at 3-1, and can NEVER be ball 4″
Right, and there will never be another May 23, 2008. Meanwhile, if you foul off a 3-1 pitch, you can get ball 4 on the next one. Right?
3-1 the pressure is on the pitcher, 3-2 it’s more evenly split. But you’re bailing the pitcher out if you swing at ball 4, I think we can all agree on that.
GOLD GLOVE SNAP BY JOBA…. NICE
COULD DOUBLE AS A FORWARD FOR THE KNICKS.
Gees
Joba Rules!
Russ aka Russ M – has been like this for three seasons. He’s best ignored – he’s not a yankee fan and that fact isn’t even redeemed by possessing a shred of baseball knowledge.
He’s been banned from other blogs and is now bringing his same old same old crap here now.
“You have to give russ one thing. He is an equal opportunity hater. He hates on everyone on the team!”
Sounds like a Red Sox fan.
cano is 8 for his last 25 which is .320. how do you jibe that with this:
“Giambi, Cano, Molina, Ensberg, Melky are all horrible hitter right now.”
RE: 3-1 and 3-2 counts.
The big difference is that on 3-1, the hitter can look for a certain pitch in a certain zone. If it’s not what he’s looking for, he lets it go, bringing up ….
a 3-2 count, where the hitter HAS to swing at any pitch in the strike zone.
Therefore, 3-1 is a great hitter’s count, because he can be selective. Not so on 3-2.
Ted Williams #1 rule of hitting – “Get a good pitch to hit.”
anybody who didnt get the patrick henry quote has to stay after school today.
Their 2B sucks! He made an error last night as well.
KEEP DUNCAN. WITH REGULAR AT BATS, HE’LL DO THE JOB.
I don’t think Bobby knew that was gone.
Can a stat-head pull up a stat on Jeter’s average since getting hit by Cabrera? I feel it has affected him more than he is leading on.
There you go, Bobby!
ok i know its early to get excited but GO JOBAAAAAAA – great outing!
And now Goooooooo Abreu! Nice 2 run homer!
That probably makes it so much easier for Joba with some good insurance. Because it must be SO tough going out for half a start knowing you can’t give up a run. They are really swinging the bats well.
Bobby Abreu – one of my very favorite Yanks.
nice insurance runs!!
So, will Joba get a save tonight if we win? Sweet
nice shot bobby!
But that was a 2-0 count, if he had just waited for 2 more balls he could be on first base.
Someone needs to put an arm around Abreu and stop him from being so impatient.
if he pitches through the 9th of course
jeter is 0 for 10 since the hbp
Alex is in a mini slump.
Um david isn’t that how many pitcher goes out there? It isn’t like his team was behind when he came in. Think about it this way.
Say he was on the road and his team scored 1 in the first and he walked to the mound with a 1-0 lead. Well now he is going into the 6th inning with a 1-0 lead.
And I’m sure my personal trolls will show up for me saying that – but its annoying watching him move from blog to blog with the same old crap, sucking in new people who don’t know thats the kind of poster he is.
Bobby!!!
YanksAngel –
“….if we win…”
when we win.
thank you Ham.
My dream husband Jeter doesn’t have a hit since being plunked by Cabrera. Are we going to be facing that fool again when we go to BAL?
Hey where is the user “Ihatebobby”
I know he saw that clutch homer.
Man, why would you ever move such a great 6th-inning pitcher to the rotation? The sixth inning is truly the Grand Canyon of innings…
/sarcasm
Joba looked great, and I fully expect that as a starter, he’ll have a 0.2 ERA in the first inning of his starts.
Now the interesting part – can he beat major league hitters by mixing in the curve/change?
Let me just say in advance, anyone who freaks out if Joba gives up a run or two should just stop watching the Yankees. We’re going Big Picture in ’08, baby!
molina is probably the best backup catcher we’ve had in a long long time.. he does everything you need and want from a backup..
with the other guys in the lineup, we are not winning/losing based on molina’s bat.. if your hanging the season on him, then you dont understand baseball
“Can a stat-head pull up a stat on Jeter’s average since getting hit by Cabrera? ”
0 for 9 with 2 walks and a HBP in the 3 games between being hit and today, so tack on whatever he’s done this game so far
i watched jeter really hobbling down the dugout steps 2 nights ago, i dont think his quad is right yet, plus the hand thing. but they havent lost since that day and i think his playing the day after being hit really helped team morale. but id like to see joe force him to take at least one day off.
Yes, When we win!!
Does anyone know what Sterling calls Abreu means?? whatever spanish word he screams out
Ichiro is 0-series?
He must be intimidated by Godzilla’s gangsta!
“i watched jeter really hobbling down the dugout steps 2 nights ago, i dont think his quad is right yet, plus the hand thing. but they havent lost since that day and i think his playing the day after being hit really helped team morale. but id like to see joe force him to take at least one day off.”
Im sure he’ll have a day off in Minny. I doubt he will sit at Camden Yards because he hits so well there.
so if the yanks continue with stretching joba out.. there will be 3-4 days a week he is unavailable in the pen and the yanks are shorthanded those days (big disadvantage).
why not send him down to the minors to stretch him out and keep the pen whole. i guess they want those quality innings in the majors instead of wasted in the minors.. but still.
jennifer, what you said is true, but I think it’s added pressure because it’s sort of like he’s getting his workout in in a game where Mike Mussina set them up to win, and you’ve heard Joba say it before, the thing he hates most is ruining other peoples performances. So it’s almost like saying we’re stretching you out, we realize you might give up runs, but Mike Mussina is going to turn this one run lead over to you and you need to throw 50 pitches, and if you want us to win the game, be sure to keep it to a 2 era. I mean that’s a lot to ask of this guy. That’s why I think a 3 run lead means so much in this case. Because he’s not actually starting, rather he’s in this semi-awkward role.
Why would 4 pitches be too much?
When we these announcers and sportwriters get it through their thick heads? JOBA WAS A STARTER TO BEGIN WITH!!!
They make it seem like he’s never pitched more than 2 innings before in his life.
Kay’s questions are so redundant. Argh!!
“molina is probably the best backup catcher we’ve had in a long long time.. he does everything you need and want from a backup..”
AGREED – best since Girardi IMO.
JoeT – El Comeldulce (sp?) Apparently Bobby had a major sweet tooth when he was a kid and ate a lot of sweets. The nickname is literally ‘the eater of sweets’.
Anyone who speaks spanish has my sincere apology if I am wrong. Mais je parle le francais!
who says having 4 pitches is too much? to be a starter in the majors you have to have at least 3 or 4 quality pitches.
Kay asks redundant questions about a lot of things, lol.
Thanks TK… hilarious
Hard to experiment in this spot. Still a ballgame. He change needs a lot of work. Hard to use it here though.
YankeeVIP, the Yankees currently have a 7-man bullpen with Joba included. A lot of teams have 6-man bullpens. And since Joba will be saving the bullpen work every 4-5 games, they’ll be fine.
YankeeVIP,
plus we cannot afford to send one of our most valued arms to the minor leagues for close to a month.
Anyone wanna take bets on how long into the season its going to take Cone to get fed up with Kay and throw him out of the booth?
Jax,
Cuz you can drive yourself and your catcher crazy. See: Daisuke. Jack of all trades or Master of some?
David true, but he has to pitch his game and not worry about it.
Kay asked the dumb question about is 4 pitches too much.
Molina, “does everything you need as a back up catcher” WHAT? You kidding me, right? How about hitting .150, how about w/bases loaded and one out not swinging at first pitch and fly out to shallow center and not getting a run home, how about hitting more than .100 w/RISP, how about EVER getting on base?
““Never hit a 3-1 pitch. Make the pitcher pitch to you on a 3-2 count, pressure on him, that is basic baseball.â€
This is a top ten senseless baseball thought ever posted on this blog.”
Most of the times what you say is correct, but not when the bases are loaded. A walk scores a run.
“Kay asked the dumb question about is 4 pitches too much.”
Especially when JOba doesn’t have 4 right now.
Looks like he’ll fit right in with Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy in terms of pitch count.
nice work, kid, he’s over 40 now, do u send him out for another batter or send him to the bp to throw a few more? id bring him back for the 1st batter in the 8th.
Molina is not here for his bat. He is here to handle the pitchers and anything he gives offensively is a bonus. He has been great with the pitchers so far, and thats all you can really expect.
“Pitch count mounting on Joba…….”
They can send him out for a batter or two in the 8th.
“How can Joba be a starter throwing 45 pitches in 1.2 innings?”
Well it’s like this. When he is a starter he won’t be throwing 45 pitches in 1.2 innings. It’s called stretching him out.
Russ:
Just a friendly reminder about this blog. People comment on the Yankees and baseball here and there’s intelligent discussion and friendly banter for the most part.
Happy to have you. But if you’re coming here just to make negative comments and be a troll, you’re not welcome and you will be banned.
Thanks.
has yes blacked out for any of you?
Old friend Arthur Rhodes. Yankee Stadium is his house of horrors.
Silva had 40 pitches in 2 innings today and he manged to go 6
anyone having trouble with YES on Time Warner – when out on my end ?
Arthur Rhodes is still in the league? Where do I sign up to become a below average middle relief guy, I got bills to pay too!
was it rhodes who nailed tino in the back and started a bench-clearing brawl?
I just came here to ask the same question. YES is out for me as well (Time Warner). Could have something to do with location – I’m on the Upper West Side of Manhattan.
Pete,
Stating that Giambi, Cano, Molina, Ensberg, Melky aren’t hitting at all for avg’s this year isn’t being a troll, it is a fact. Stating Kennedy and Hughes hasn’t won a combined game for this team is a fact. Stating Hughes is injured as much as he pitches is a fact. So far this year, this team isn’t good, that is a fact. Not being a troll at all. What am I saying that is wrong?
My YES has been fine for me, I’m on TW too. I’m in Queens.
EI is blocked out for me. How is Joba looking?
game is still running on mlb.tv
need to get a couple more insurance runs here
ROBBIE CANNO!!!
As for the rest of you, please do not respond to or comment on trolls. That is what these people want. Just ignore them.
en fuego!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
How refreshing is it to see Giambi and Cano hitting like this??
Cano is officially back in business!!!!
GO YANKS!
Wow, what the heck happened to wake Cano up? He must have really missed A-Rod.
You have to credit Giambi for finally changing his approach. Looks like he is really trying to go the other way
i’m out time warner, midtowneast here
This blog is filled with negative comments, look back the blog when Yanks got beat 12-2 earlier this week. Cano is batting .227, Giambi .234, Molina .198.
russ, stating batting average is a sure sign of, if not a troll, someone who doesn’t know much about baseball. Batting average is one of the most meaningless statistics in baseball. Please use OBP and SLG, and you’ll be taken more seriously. You’ll also see that Giambi is one of the best 1B-man in the league right now.
Yep… Giambi and Cano sure are worthless aren’t they…
I think Rhodes is the one who plunked Tino, ham fighter
It’s great to see Cano and Giambi hitting it to the left side, especially off lefties.
sorry about the russ thing, pete, my bad, sometimes hard to tell the trolls from the just bummed out yankee fans sometimes!
To be clear, Joba didn’t throw all those pitches because he was stretching himself out, he just threw too many pitches. He’ll have starts where he throws too many pitches in too few innings too. Sometimes that happens.
Four wins in a row (counting this one) that is what is wrong with your passe analysis.
Molina up again w/RISP w/no outs, please take a pitch
Larry: Excuse me, but what the hell’s going on out here?
Crash Davis: Well, Nuke’s scared because his eyelids are jammed and his old man’s here. We need a live… is it a live rooster?
[Jose nods]
Crash Davis: . We need a live rooster to take the curse off Jose’s glove and nobody seems to know what to get Millie or Jimmy for their wedding present.
[to the players]
Crash Davis: Is that about right?
[the players nod]
Crash Davis: We’re dealing with a lot of (crap).
Larry: Okay, well, uh… candlesticks always make a nice gift, and uh, maybe you could find out where she’s registered and maybe a place-setting or maybe a silverware pattern. Okay, let’s get two! Go get ‘em.
Andrew, how many errors does Giambi have? Or has cost this teams runs?
“was it rhodes who nailed tino in the back and started a bench-clearing brawl?”
With the Orioles? I’m pretty sure it was Armando Benitez.
Russ – I would like to ask this. When is the last time you made a POSITIVE comment here about anyone Yankee?
Chris – Fan insecurity isn’t always pretty is it. Well we can keep hoping that things like this will help people to take a 24-hour break at least when they are ready to DFA a player…
dan, thanks, couldnt remember which worthless o’s pitcher it was.
Great at bat by Molina!!!!
Woohoo Molina!!!
Molina singled, WOW!!!
I’m on the UWS, too, (hi Achilles 17) and YES is also out for me.
yes cut out for me tw in manhattan, switched to hear the radio.
giambi has 9 hr’s a little more than 25% through the season…say he hits .250 with a .400 obp and 35 hr’s, how many people would complain?
“To be clear, Joba didn’t throw all those pitches because he was stretching himself out, he just threw too many pitches.”
Obviously. But the point I was making to Russ is that
1. Joba is being stretched out
2. He is not used to pitching as a starter
3. It will not be unusual to see him pitch a lot of pitches as he is being stretched out and getting used to working into being a starter
4. He typically won’t be pitching that many pitches in that few innings when he is finally pitching as a starter.
I hate when I have to connect all the dots for people and really appreciate people who can read my shorthand.
Trish,
Only positive for Yanks this year is MO, Jeter, Wang (so so), Pettitte (so so), and that is about it. For $209 million, this team ought to have gotten Santana and Dice K or both and not have Hughes or Kennedy or Igawa. This team needs pitching to win anything, and has since 2002, except, this 2008 team is worse than the others.
Have we had two consecutive games this season where we scored double digits?
One thing about these slow starts for guys like Giambi and Cano… Has anyone ever thought how much the weather plays into it? Let’s say your the Big G and spent mid-October to February chilling at the shake-shake in Vegas, then you spend the next month and a half in tropical Tampa. You’re feeling good and loose, hitting well. Then BAM, you are off to the freezing cold northeast and midwest until it warms up (with a stop in Tampa). That has to affect things.
Do I dare call it again.
His 2nd career grand slam? No better way to break out of little slump
“As for the rest of you, please do not respond to or comment on trolls. That is what these people want. Just ignore them.”
My dream husband is so due for a hit.
russ: The earlier comments you, or someone using that name anyway, were making gave off the sense of ‘THE YANKS ARE FAILING, THEY WILL FAIL, AND I ENJOY IT!’
ham fighter…. that was just teh conversation the Girardi was having with Joba, only it was about a gift for Arod’s new baby.
anything short of the bleachers isnt gonna score molina (who should have made 3B when cano was in the rundown.) its not his fault, though, thats where you need a pinch runner. cant any of our pitchers run the bases? molina is world-class slow.
Looked it up on Baseball Reference the other day, and Giambi has 2 errors so far and a .994 fielding pct.
Let’s go for the cycle!!!!
Russ: I actually think this team is better than any yankees team in terms of pitching since 2004. The harder part for this team is that the rest of the division is much better.
UGH JETER
Wow! What a game for Abreu!
Double Digits Again!!!
Hey, Bobby Abreu made it to the game today! Now if only we could cure his phobia of walls…
what I missed ?
I didn’t think that hitting over Ichiro’s head was physically possible.
Way to go Bobby!
Abreu is such a different hitter with A-Rod in the lineup.
Um, yeah, thanks for connecting all the dots for me. But in the future, can you please refrain from using so many multi-sylla… um, multi-sylla… um, all those big words, it’s hard for me to keep up.
Did I mention that I REALLY like Bobby A. He really has all the tools. I think his fear of walls is greatly exaggerated too.
that bull durham thing was 20 years ago but everytime there’s a meeting on the mound i think about it and it STILL cracks me up!
Daniel McCutchen (still better than Igawa)
6.1 IP, 10 H, 4 R, 4 ER, 0 BB, 4 K’s 1 HR
PT/S 97-63, GO/AO 6-8
Betemit 2 for 4 w/ a HR and 2 RBI
We are soo good now.
Funny how things can change over 4 days.
For $209 million, this team ought to have gotten Santana and Dice K or both and not have Hughes or Kennedy or Igawa.
Russ, normally don’t care when negative comments are piling on the Yankees because I expect them to win every game and perform better than any other team in the league. My frustration with them grows with each boneheaded play they make, even moreso when the players making lots of cash perform like freshmen in college. I expect nothing but complete excellence from this team and never “going through the motions” or failing to “show up”.
However, Santana and Dice K would only be short term fixes and leave the Yankees right where they are at with too many bloated contracts and no valid produciton coming from their investment. Santana is an excellent pitcher but is being overpaid for past performance. That is the same as chasing returns on Wall St. Eventually you buy high and lose your arse.
Dice K is over-rated. He is pitching better this year compared to last year but again, he is a long term negative investment. He is roughly making the same as Gil Meche. I am no genius but that really makes me scratch my head.
Kennedy and Hughes have struggled but they, plus Joba, represent the type of talent that the Yankees need to keep around and keep developing. They are allowed more “screw ups” as they develop than some of the veterans on this team.
Last, Igawa, no argument. That is chasing returns because someone else appeared to make a ton on a similar investment. A dog can have fleas. Igawas represents infestation.
i wish we could play SEA all season.
so any word on days between each joba outing? is he going to be on starter rest and piggback with moose for the next month.
i do agree.. having joba now being able to pitch 3 innings for the next month will save the game on days when moose and ipk implode
Poor Seattle. Truly. I think I can say it with a clear head as in I have total faith the Yankees will win this game. We all know how the Seattle fans have to be feeling right now. We witnessed our Yankees go through a rough stretch. I truly hope that things turn around for Seattle as soon as they face the Sux…
Almost at .500, congrats.
Yep, the pitching staff’s era at 4.25 beats the staff eras from 2004-2007.
The difference is that in that same stretch, the lowest runs per game generated by the offense was like 5.53 (886 runs over 162 games). This year, the offense is at 4.25 runs a game (204 runs over 48 games), prior to today’s game.
I don’t think he’s being lazy, I just think sometimes he tries to play the ball too safe. He’d rather give up a single by letting the ball drop in front of him than dive for it and possibly have a guy get extra bases. Same thing with the walls. It just irks me sometimes, that’s all
the better scene, and it came to mind earlier in the season when Joba was shaking off Molina, was the scene when Nuke wants to throw the heat. Crash tells the hitter what is coming and he jacks one… Freakin funny.
I guess that’s a ‘welcome to AAA’ line. for McCutchen.
“We are soo good now.
Funny how things can change over 4 days.”
Yankeefanfoev13, I hope you will indulge me when I say that we have ALWAYS been this good. We just haven’t played like it. But this is who the Yankees are.
That’s why you need to sit back and just be…
Oh never mind.
I’m thinking Ensberg should be DFA’d when Betemit comes back. I hate Betemit, but Ensberg is just god awful.
I’d love to get my hands on one of these Mariners relievers: Morrow or Billingsworth.
Any chance the Mariners would trade either if they’ve fallen out of the playoff race by the trade deadline?
what kind of package do you think the yankees need to get ichiro..
sea is going nowhere and ichiro seems disinterested now.. nyy would be ideal for him.
we bench damon, play melky, ichiro, and bobby in the outfield..
There may not be a sweeter more natural swing in the game than Josh Hamilton’s.
Texas makes just one visit to the Stadium on June 30-July 2.
Morgan Ensberg = rally killer
Oh Ensberg. The man has been given his chances but he just doesn’t produce.
Giambi should take ARod out for some table dances on him after the game.
Ever since ARod has gotten back in the lineup, Giambi has been a new man.
awww, how cute, Joe gave Ensberg a send-off at-bat…
“I’d love to get my hands on one of these Mariners relievers: Morrow or Billingsworth.
Any chance the Mariners would trade either if they’ve fallen out of the playoff race by the trade deadline?”
It’s a bit early for teams to start dismantling themselves. If SEA is this bad by the All Star Break, you might see them make some deals. Not sure they are giving up those guys, particularly Morrow. Same with Ichiro. They just signed him to a long term deal. He is the face of the franchise. He’s not going anywhere.
Joe Schmoe, this isn’t personal to you because I thought about it before and forgot to say it. You just reminded me of it when you talked about DFA.
DFA = DUMB FANS ANONYMOUS!
Morgan End of the lines berg.
I’m reading the box score it saids Joba threw 40 pitches 22 strikes in 2 IP, someone tell me how he looked I had to step out and handle some matters.
“what kind of package do you think the yankees need to get ichiro..
sea is going nowhere and ichiro seems disinterested now.. nyy would be ideal for him.
we bench damon, play melky, ichiro, and bobby in the outfield..”
-Aren’t Yankees fans supposed to be some of the smartest in baseball?
Trisha -
You’re so annoying.
[Mechanized bull noises in background]
Crash Davis: Well, he really hit the (crap) outta that one, didn’t he?
[laughs]
Ebby Calvin LaLoosh: [softly, infuriated] I held it like an egg.
Crash Davis: Yeah, and he scrambled the son of a bitch. Look at that, he hit the f*&^%*&%$#$g bull! Guy gets a free steak!
[laughs]
Crash Davis: You having fun yet?
Ebby Calvin LaLoosh: Oh, yeah. Havin’ a blast.
Crash Davis: Good.
[pause]
Ebby Calvin LaLoosh: God, that sucker teed off on that like he knew I was gonna throw a fastball!
Crash Davis: He did know.
Ebby Calvin LaLoosh: How?
Crash Davis: I told him.
Josh Hamilton could have been had for money. Cubs just tossed him away to the Reds for pocket change.
thanks to imdb btw.
YankeeVIP – didn’t Seattle just lock up Ichiro for a long time?
We don’t need Ichiro. It would always be nice to have someone like him around, don’t get me wrong. But what we’d have to give up would be ridiculous. And again, we are fine without him. If we were totally void of decent outfielders that would be a different story.
But truly, we are not.
And the primary reason you show up here loser.
-Aren’t Yankees fans supposed to be some of the smartest in baseball?
All of you wishing Morgan gets DFA’d next week are going to be disappointed. I think that they are sending the Attorney General to AAA. I’d actually like to dump Betemit, but that doesn’t appear to be the plan.
DF ANONYMOUS -
And vice versa.
AWESOME ham fighter
Brandon-
I missed his first inning, but he was good from what I heard on YES. Second inning was a little rough but he handled himself well and got out of a bit of a jam.
Anonymous,
Trisha is a breath of fresh air on this blog. Lay off.
ham fighter.
NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“And the primary reason you show up here loser.”
– Just checked in and saw that gem about the Yank$ getting Ichiro and benching Damon. Idiotic statements like these humor me and help pass the time at work.
Brandon,
He was sharp in his first inning of work…less so in his second inning-but still good…
Excellent fastball…mixed in a few curves…
Really nasty, nasty slider…
Good phase II…
Trisha,
I hope you do not think that I am Anonymous. It is not very brave to take a shot (like the one at you) from hiding.
Good move taking Joba out – let him throw the rest in the pen
Ok, this Reed guy is annoying me.
Why is everyone booing like that on every foul ball?
I thought that Cardinals fans claimed the title of smartest fans in baseball.
Hmm, wonder if the Yankees had room on the 25-man roster back then, as Hamilton was a Rule V pick by the Cubs before dumped for cash (and still retaining Rule V pick rules?). Ah well, hindsight.
He got a hit off of Ball 4.
Ichiro is not getting traded. I think you’re right, Laura, same with Morrow.
Rowand-Smith (not Billingsworth, I’m drunk, not him), on the other hand: I don’t know how the Mariners value him. But a lefty who throws as hard as he does and can throw strikes, wow.
the Yankees need to find a lefty like that somewhere.
14 pitch at-bat? Does anyone know what the record is for most pitches in an at-bat?
NICE KYLE!!!!!
Vrsce -
I don’t think you are ANONYMOUS. You have said a few less-than-complimentary things to me in the past, and you’ve used your own screenname doing it. I wouldn’t think you’d hide behind another screenname.
AG needs to go back to AAA, just so he can get consistent at-bats. If he is going to take over for Jeter someday, his bat needs to catch up to his speed and defense. That isn’t going to happen at the big league level.
Foobala – thanks.
Laura, if you’re young and hot, I have a job for you.
I know the guys at firejoemorgan. They want some woman to entrap Morgan in a sexual harassment suit so he receives the Harold Reynolds treatment.
Any chance you live near Bristol, CT?
Thank God we’ve got some runs to cushion that blow.
43 is the record
Trisha,
Despite my comments, I do admire your faith.
Things are going so well, I can’t even get mad at Kyle for that. Keep plugging away.
It should be illegal to be that fast…
To trish and any Farnsworth supporters…
Farnsworth freaking blows!!
All he can do is fight.
I hope Veras pitches the 9th. Did he pitch last night?
The Yankees need to give Veras an opportunity to seize the 8th inning role from Farnsworth.
They can’t rely on him. He just doesn’t have the constitution to pitch the 8th inning.
ok so due to FOX.. i’m watching gamecast (HATE FOX)
What was that a 13 pitch-ab?? crazy!! I’m surprised Kyle didn’t buzz him… could’ve been the 6th Yankee suspended
27
What kind of workout does Ichiro do to stay so fast?
i just missed yogi (manager the first game i went to), but he had the reputation as the best in the game at fouling off pitches and having someteen pitch at-bats.
It’s cool; some rest for the batters before they go out and round the bases some more
actually it was an 18 pitch ab, i was just joking 43 would be ridiculous.
As someone who believes in protecting Farnsworth from the hoardes I will say that giving up a two-run homer is not a big deal when the team is up by 8 runs. In fact it is probably not always so easy for a reliever to come in and pitch like the score is a lot closer.
Okay, am I being too protective here or is there actually something to what I am saying? We all know that Farnsy has been really pretty spectacular this season, all things considered.
good thing the offense woke up
Ohlendorf should be in contention for the 8th too. I don’t think you need to have one specific guy, just 2-3 guys you can trust in that spot to get the ball to Mo.
RJ on Fox for you west coasters.
Kennedy talking about Johnson changing his game, “He’s not your father’s Big Unit. Yes, I just said that.”
Way too many hits here, Kyle.
Seattle isn’t going to trade Morrow at the deadline. He’s the Mariner version of Joba.
Tough inning there for Farnsworth, not a bad one really, just a tough one.
srsy just looked it up 24 pitch by luke appling.
Can has become a hitting machine again!!!!
“To trish and any Farnsworth supporters…
Farnsworth freaking blows!!
All he can do is fight.”
As my mom would always say to my dad when they weren’t on the same page on some issue, “I respect your opinion, I just don’t agree with it.”
trisha- “Joe Schmoe, this isn’t personal to you because I thought about it before and forgot to say it. You just reminded me of it when you talked about DFA.
DFA = DUMB FANS ANONYMOUS!”
How does it make me, or anyone dumb, for thinking Ensberg should be DFA’d? He was given plenty of chances, and now whenever he comes to the plate he’s like an automatic out. I mean, you’ve got the bases loaded with 2 outs and Giambi is supposed to be up, you figure Ensberg would at least be able to get on base, but of course he doesn’t. He deserves to be dropped with performances like these.
At least krazy-kyle didn’t give up that many runs-
Ughhhhh !!! This guy just frightens me with his unreliablility – How can we trust him for the 8th!?!?
We all hope Farnsy does well, but his lack of dependability will keep him from being the 8th inning guy come August+September IMHO.
Lots of arms here and in SWB will audition for the role.
“Ohlendorf should be in contention for the 8th too. I don’t think you need to have one specific guy, just 2-3 guys you can trust in that spot to get the ball to Mo.”
I am definitely down with that theory.
The ad at the top of the page.
86 Ensberg. His time is up
thanks for catching me up guys, had to take my little cousin to the barber shop he was starting to look like Manny
believe it or not Kyle did good that inning, a couple of bad breaks but it’s a 12-4 game hitters just don’t take the same swings.
Robertson in AAA
1.2 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 2 K’s
2.25 ERA, GO/AO 2-1
PT/S 24-15
something is wrong w/ Patterson, he gave up 3 hits and one was a HR
ok, one last crash davis, this is the one someone mentioned before:
[Crash calls for a curve ball, Ebby shakes off the pitch twice]
Crash Davis: [stands up] Hey! HEY!
[walks to meet Ebby at the mound]
Crash Davis: Why are you shaking me off?
Ebby Calvin LaLoosh: [Gets in Crash's face] I want to give him the heat and announce my presence with authority!
Crash Davis: Announce your (freakin) presence with authority? This guy is a first ball, fast ball hitter!
Ebby Calvin LaLoosh: Well he hasn’t seen my heat!
Crash Davis: [pauses] Allright meat, show him your heat.
[Walks back towards the box]
Crash Davis: [to the batter] Fast ball.
again, thanks to imdb, the 2nd best website on the internet!
agreed trish
Joe Schmoe – that’s why I said it wasn’t personal to your comment. I used your “DFA” as the jumping off point because I had thought of that little acronym earlier but forgot to mention it earlier.
Sorry if it seemed like I was equating it to your post in particular, because I really wasn’t.
Missing Bowa?
anyone…
“thanks for catching me up guys, had to take my little cousin to the barber shop he was starting to look like Manny ”
– Just as long as you don’t catch him wearing a gold thong Brandon.
trisha,
It’s good that you’re positive about Farnsworth but I think you’d have to agree that he’s just not very consistent…
From what I’ve seen this season, I just wouldn’t feel confident bringing him into a tough spot against a team like Boston, say…or in the post-season…
I believe we need to see what Veras and Ramirez can do for us in the 8th…
my lord, we need jorge back. i love molina, but hes killing me!
We did have room for Hamilton because we took Josh Phelps the same year from the Rule 5.
“agreed trish”
The thing with Farnsworth in that inning is that the game isn’t even close, and the Mariners just got some good hits in. Not that much to worry about – I don’t think this is a reason to cite that he can’t be an 8th inning guy.
Back to the Jorge talk… I think they know he won’t be able to pay out the entire contract at catcher. It seems like they want about 2 years out of him so that Romine or Montero or Cervelli are ready to take over. Although, Montero may be headed for a different position.
Thing is though, if Jorge goes to 1B, where does Jeter go? Unless things change radically, that’s the only position with no depth in the system right now.
yuck yuck yuck.
– Just as long as you don’t catch him wearing a gold thong Brandon.
damn Vidro was completely overmatched there
Ah, Josh Phelps…his mythos grows!
“thanks for catching me up guys, had to take my little cousin to the barber shop he was starting to look like Manny”
Hey Brandon –
If he hits like Manny – we’ll fly him to the Carribean, hide him from Theo, then bring him back when he is 17!!!
“UPDATE, 4:02 p.m.: I can’t speak for the rest of you, but I think the eighth inning could not be in more capable hands than those of Krazy Kyle.”
My question is, will the author of those remarks be banned from this blog for undue negativity and insensitivity towards the delicate psyche that is Kyle Farnsworth?
Veras’s arm action sells that slider, he just needs to keep it down, dammit Shelley let Jose catch it.
that was strike 2
“We all know that Farnsy has been really pretty spectacular this season, all things considered.”
Spectacular, No. Not as horrible as last year,ummm… OK, I guess.
No one trusts Kyle to hold a lead. No one. Anyone who says they do, I demand a lie detector test.
I’m sure Pete would have pointed out that Phelps was taken in that Rule 5 instead of going after a guy nicknamed “The Natural”, but it would diminish the Faux Aura of Brian Cashman.
I’ve never seen this happen before…
Umm the game is over right?
i wear my red thong during games…….good luck
What is with the umps this year? Geesh!
i know using jorge isnt that much of a help b/c it leaves molina in the lineup, but im afraid that he’ll play 2 weeks, the other teams will run wild, he’ll throw too hard to 2nd base to stop that, and BANG, we lose him for the rest of the season. thats basicaly the same thing that happened when he threw it out the last time. id rather have him dh and play 1b occasionally than go behind the plate and lose him for the season.
WTH, oh that is too funny.
Let me guess, Watson will find some way to fine the Yankees for it, lol
Dynasty, I really have a hard time assessing Farnsworth’s consistency and reliability because I really do think he has phenomenal stuff. He has gotten better and better as the season has progressed. And if you take a look at his game log, it really is quite good.
I guess the question we would have to ask if whether there is anyone else out there we would want for our 8th inning set-up guy(s) and then we’d have to take a look at their game logs. What exactly should your 8th inning guy(s) look like in reality? Should they be total goose-egg guys? Does this exist other than perhaps with Joba, who is an aberration? If we look at Farnsworth’s game log, game by game, (and let’s forget it is Farnsworth, let’s just look at the numbers), is he someone we would consider worthy of the 8th? As was the case when Hawkins showed up, and there were people who were down on him based on what they thought of his past outings, are people looking at Farnsworth based on what we saw of him when Torre was here and using that prejudice each time he shows up on the mound?
I’m not sure of the answers, but I think the questions do need to be given careful and honest consideration.
Veras’s arm slot is going to be a problem
But you have to remember, Hamilton was radioactive at the time. It was not a stupid decision to pass him over at the time. I am happy he’s sober and doing well, but I don’t think anyone except for him and his family who thought he could get back to what he was.
I don’t even know why they have umps. Robots would be more efficient.
“What is with the umps this year? Geesh!”
Allergies.
Ham Fighter
“When you speak of me, speak well”
The Yankees win one,,,,the Yankees win win…….now 6 games back in win column against Boston…
Rconn – Farnsworth held a tie game on Thursday. Not exactly a lead, but certainly pretty valuable.
Looks like people here have very short term memories.
Molina’s trying not to laugh
also consider that the yankees fishbowl was not a good place for hamilton to recover in.
2 straight series victories!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you’re Steve Howe and have a drug problem, you can throw in the towel. But if you’re Josh Hamilton, guy who set a record with his signing bonus because the guy was 100% talent, you take the chance. Just like we took a chance on Phelps.
Although if we had signed Hamilton, we’d be hearing how nice of a guy Melky is.
“The thing with Farnsworth in that inning is that the game isn’t even close, and the Mariners just got some good hits in. Not that much to worry about – I don’t think this is a reason to cite that he can’t be an 8th inning guy.”
I’m with you Wander.
“No one trusts Kyle to hold a lead. No one. Anyone who says they do, I demand a lie detector test.”
Actually there are at least two of us who do. Joe Girardi and I!
“Okay, am I being too protective here or is there actually something to what I am saying? We all know that Farnsy has been really pretty spectacular this season, all things considered.”
He hasn’t really been pretty spectacular. He’s been decent, but inconsistent. They’ve been avoiding back-to-back games, avoiding back-to-back innings, and STILL he seems to have the same problems where he has a hard time throwing strikes. Whether it’s too much pressure or not enough, he seems to have problems throwing strikes fairly often. I just think that other guys should get the opportunity to earn that slot.
you got to give Bobby and Robi credit, sometimes you cannn’t undastand dem’ but dey always talk to media
Good win today. Now we have to go for the sweep. Good day all!
And on the fifth game of his return, the great pillaging doth continue.
I think the speaking problem comes with wearing a Mets uniform
“We did have room for Hamilton because we took Josh Phelps the same year from the Rule 5.”
The Rule 5 goes in the same order as the Rule 4. I’m pretty sure Hamilton wasn’t available when the Yankees picked. I’m pretty sure he went much earlier than that.
“My question is, will the author of those remarks be banned from this blog for undue negativity and insensitivity towards the delicate psyche that is Kyle Farnsworth?”
Nick, while your comments were neutral, I sense that you are thinking negative things about KF while you are typing.
I am afraid you will have to be sent to your happy place until further notice.
Hamilton wasn’t available. But he was available from the Cubs for cash.
Another good win.
It may look trivial, but Girardi’s blowout against the umpire two days back will be remembered as the defining moment of the season from when the season turned around.
Nice! Now a Boston loss would make it a perfect day.
Go for the sweep tomorrow (hope Wang’s leg’s feeling ok).
Hey BostonLoather:
With the red thong thing…where is the Red Sox insignia???
Front or back?
I think the other guys are getting chances to earn the spot. We’ve seen Ohlendorf and Veras put into “sink or swim” situations, and I think Edwar will see those as well. I think that while the spot is Farnsworth’s for now, its not going to be for long if he allows the young guns to pass him up.
Glad the offense is doing good.The fantasy of everybody thinking Mussina going only 5v innings and Fransworth being a set-up man with a 4.50 Era is pretty funny.
“UPDATE, 2:15 p.m.: The Big G hasn’t been this happy since they opened the Spearmint Rhino in Vegas. ”
Classic.
Hmm, speaking of pillaging, Francis doth get smitten in 1st inning already
“Nice! Now a Boston loss would make it a perfect day.”
Mel, knowing you are an expansive individual I know you were referring to both baseball and basketball.
GO PISTONS!
GO ATHLETICS!
About Farnsy, I really don’t care where he pitches. I trust him to pitch anywhere. If he’s there for the 8th, fine. If he’s there for other innings instead, fine.
TKinDC, the Yanks won 4 in a row — despite my fleeting dark thoughts about Kyle “who you callin’ Krazy” Farnsworth, I am in my happy place. If the Yanks sweep tomorrow, I might hop on a cheap Alaska flight to Seattle and get some fried oysters at Ivars to thank the Emerald City in person.
And MoBoy, I didn’t get a chance to respond, but I wanted to congratulate you, I notices that you made some goofy comment in another thread that had nothing to do with Joba. I’m glad to see you spreading your wings!
Trisha,
Completely missed it.
Since we’re being expansive, losses by the Sawx, Celtics, AND Rays would be perfect.
I wouldn’t mind the Eastern final going 7, better for whoever comes out of the West.
I see the 4th place Blue Jays won today.
Looks like the standings will remain the same for another day.
“Glad the offense is doing good.The fantasy of everybody thinking Mussina going only 5v innings and Fransworth being a set-up man with a 4.50 Era is pretty funny.”
MoBoy, I’m wondering when you came to this realization about Farnsworth? This game? Last game? The game before? Tell me exactly when. I’d really like to know that. I mean did you wait for him to have a bad outing since one bad outing can really bloat the stats of a reliever, or were you convinced of what you are saying now even two games back, say when Kyle was sporting a 2.84 ERA? Or even when Kyle went 6 games in a row before the Mets game giving up no runs at all? Please tell me when. I’d like to know.
BY THE WAY – just tuned into the postgame show on YES where Coney was in the middle of talking about Kyle warming up for 1/2 hour before he came into the game because of long offensive innings by the Yanks as well as Kyle coming in without the typical adrenaline rush that usually accompanies his particular role as an 8th inning pitcher.
Yeah, I guess I have to stay with my “I trust Kyle” role.
Moose leads the Yankees in wins…who would have thought that would be the case at this point in the season?
If he has 10 wins by the All-Star break, that’ll be something…
Go Yanks!
oh I didn’t know the Mets called up Nick Evans, that kid can rake it in AA
Nick in SF:
Well now that Joba is headed to the rotation your dream team of 5 set-up men will come true.It’s easy like you to say anyone can pitch the 8th since thats been working for Fransworth and Ohlendorff.
But hey a win is a win.But the first hurdle of beating crappy teams is good now it’stime to actually beatinh good teams is next for us.
haha just saw Pete, he was hanging out in Shelley’s locker.
what the hell is Evans doing in LF ? he’s a 1B w/ no real OF experience
I don’t want Moose anywhere BUT in our rotation. He has shown that he can still really pitch, plus he can come back when he hasn’t done well.
HEY PETE HAS A BUZZCUT! NICE HAIR CUT PETE! (maybe he’s had it for a while but I never noticed.)
I really love buzz cuts on men.
MoBoy, you seriously crack me up. Do you know what the phrase “straw man argument” means?
What country are you from?
trisha
Are you hitting on Pete?
” Idiotic statements like these humor me and help pass the time at work.”
nypd113th-
showing a little sign of stress there.
it’s only a four game winning steak.
i guess you’re just nervous about beckett tonight.
i’m sure he’ll win another game this month.
HEY PETE WE SEE U!
Anyone see Pete in the Mussina Interview!
Pete U do a great job man….. And I’m jealous
Great win today. Can’t wait to go to the stadium tomorrow.
Jennifer -
He he he he he. No really I’m not. But I do love his haircut.
Jennifer, I have always preferred the clean-cut look in men. That’s probably why I’ve been so enamored with the Steinbrenner era and the clean-cut Yanks! (well most of them, save the greasy carny-barker look of Jason Giambi.)
Wall-street looking types, even with glasses, clean-cut buzz cut marine looking guys. YES! (I hate macho looking bastards…)
GO CLEAN CUT!
saw some video of McCutchen in SWB, he was hitting from 86 – 94 and I think I even saw a top out of 95 mph, his delivery reminds me of Keith Foulke but we’ve seen Cutch’s delivery on YouTube so we already know that.
Pete seems to always find some TV time. Nice haircut LOL
“But hey a win is a win.But the first hurdle of beating crappy teams is good now it’stime to actually beatinh good teams is next for us.”
nick in sf
do you have some sort of rosetta stone to translate the above?
i’d hate to miss anything important on the blog.
randy l, I think MoBoy is just trying to say that he’s excited about the Track and Field events in the Olympics, or maybe the Special Olympics. Either way, it’s good to see the kid get excited about something.
trisha
So you love Joe’s military hair cut?
I agree, I love the close shaven look on men.
Speaking of hair cuts/styles. does John Flarhety’s hair style bother anyone else?
Sheesh, go to Italy for a few days, and see the Yankees finally decide to set things right
Great news about Joba; even better to hear that Rasner is doing his best Aaron Small impression, Kennedy had a good game and Pettitte and Giambi are performing well again.
It’s just past 11 here in Florence. Rome was wonderful–even saw the Pope! No, seriously! Florence is still utterly amazing. Had the best pizza the world has to offer for lunch today and got my brother tipsy on some excellent wine. Going to Bologna tomorrow and Pisa on Monday before coming back to Florence for Tuesday.
Will be home Thursday evening–here’s hoping the Yanks can win every game until then!
BTW, any make up date for last Friday’s rain out announced yet? Prego!
Hey Rebecca, glad to hear you are having fun!
No they haven’t announced a make up date.
Nice. Four game winning streak. May be there are such things as miracles.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/s.....or-10-bats
Good win today!
Whoa…
Moose has more wins than Wang…
Prediction for first time one of the relievers blows an 8th inning lead:
OMG!! SEE?? SEEE??? Joba would never have blown that game! Girardi should be fired. Cashman should be fired and strung up. Hank should be forced to sell his share of the team to Hal. What a disaster! This team is destined to lose BIGTIME in the postseason – no bullpen, no WS – that simple.
Anyone have any other ideas what shape the idiotic arguments will take?
probably the same as the idiotic arguments that are taking place now, Scott.
bronxbomber77 (from worst to first in 2008!)
May 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Wow!
Just looked at the handy stats Pete provides.
Cano in nine at-bats against Carlos Silva:
.333 (three hits, for the public schoolers); 3 HR, 4 RBI.
Only two other people in the lineup have hit ONE HR off Silva… A-Rod (.417 lifetime vs. Silva) and Melky (.429 lifetime vs. Silva).
Here’s hoping Cano’s slump is over and his hot streak continues. Sounds like, historically, Robinson will tee off against Silva today.
Then all the ‘trade Cano’ fools will hush up.
AND CANO GOES 4-4 WITH A RUN SCORED AND AN RBI!
Raises average to .232.
Dr. Silva was just what he needed…
bronxbomber77 (from worst to first in 2008!)
May 24th, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Wow!
Just looked at the handy stats Pete provides.
Cano in nine at-bats against Carlos Silva:
.333 (three hits, for the public schoolers); 3 HR, 4 RBI.
Only two other people in the lineup have hit ONE HR off Silva… A-Rod (.417 lifetime vs. Silva) and Melky (.429 lifetime vs. Silva).
Here’s hoping Cano’s slump is over and his hot streak continues. Sounds like, historically, Robinson will tee off against Silva today.
Then all the ‘trade Cano’ fools will hush up.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
AND, he goes 4-4 today!
Just what Robbie needed, an appt. with Dr. Silva.
AVG: .232
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