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	<title>Comments on: Big herd of goats at Camden Yards</title>
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	<pubDate>Wed,  3 Dec 2008 22:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: KR</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/big-heard-of-goats-at-camden-yards/#comment-368447</link>
		<dc:creator>KR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 06:32:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey diane....you need to back off from the name calling. If you want to call someone an "idiot" why don't you subscribe to the "many" distasteful blogs all over the internet? Pete does a very good job on this site, and should be commended for a clean, professional website. Try to refrain from the useless insults....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey diane&#8230;.you need to back off from the name calling. If you want to call someone an &#8220;idiot&#8221; why don&#8217;t you subscribe to the &#8220;many&#8221; distasteful blogs all over the internet? Pete does a very good job on this site, and should be commended for a clean, professional website. Try to refrain from the useless insults&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Diane</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/big-heard-of-goats-at-camden-yards/#comment-367450</link>
		<dc:creator>Diane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:48:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Then with the bases loaded and no outs in the 11th he manages to ground into the 4-2-5 double play. â€œStick your glove out, make a lucky catch and get two out of it,â€ he said afterward.

Lucky? He hit the hard grounder right at an infielder, the one thing you couldnâ€™t do. Striking out would have been less damaging."

Wow Pete, you are an idiot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Then with the bases loaded and no outs in the 11th he manages to ground into the 4-2-5 double play. â€œStick your glove out, make a lucky catch and get two out of it,â€ he said afterward.</p>
<p>Lucky? He hit the hard grounder right at an infielder, the one thing you couldnâ€™t do. Striking out would have been less damaging.&#8221;</p>
<p>Wow Pete, you are an idiot.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael T</title>
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		<dc:creator>Michael T</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 16:17:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete-

Baseball is a Hard Game.

ARod has about 1/2 second to recognize the pitch, swing and hit the ball hard.  Which he did.  Asking hime to guide it away from the infielders and other players is a bit too much.

DJ ran hard to third base as soon as he saw the liner wasn't caught.  If, instead he took off and got doubled off 2nd you would be taking him to taks for that.

Latroy Hwakins left a pitch up and "you can't do that".  If he could throw the ball where he wanted to he wouldn't be Latroy Hawkins.

My biggest beef was Jeter getting picked off 2nd.  The 3rd base coach is supposed to help him out here.  This is so out of character for Jeter that I am going to blame it on Bobby Meachum.  He sucked as a player too and is a memory of the darkest days for Yankees fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete-</p>
<p>Baseball is a Hard Game.</p>
<p>ARod has about 1/2 second to recognize the pitch, swing and hit the ball hard.  Which he did.  Asking hime to guide it away from the infielders and other players is a bit too much.</p>
<p>DJ ran hard to third base as soon as he saw the liner wasn&#8217;t caught.  If, instead he took off and got doubled off 2nd you would be taking him to taks for that.</p>
<p>Latroy Hwakins left a pitch up and &#8220;you can&#8217;t do that&#8221;.  If he could throw the ball where he wanted to he wouldn&#8217;t be Latroy Hawkins.</p>
<p>My biggest beef was Jeter getting picked off 2nd.  The 3rd base coach is supposed to help him out here.  This is so out of character for Jeter that I am going to blame it on Bobby Meachum.  He sucked as a player too and is a memory of the darkest days for Yankees fans.</p>
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		<title>By: Cathy</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/big-heard-of-goats-at-camden-yards/#comment-367398</link>
		<dc:creator>Cathy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"The problem with the Yankees is that they are rushing these kids thorugh the minors. They have to stop doing that. Let these kids pitch at each level for a year. They are rushing them and then paying the consequences for it."

This is the Yankees problem - they are a team of extremes. We have two types of players - young/inexperienced and post-prime veterans. When the vets can't get it done, they have to rely on the young guys. But that puts pressure on the new guys to perform and they're prone to mistakes. Its a bad situation all around. That's why I can only hope that this year the Yanks will clean house and start fresh with a new team in the new stadium. Its time for this team to truly rebuild.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The problem with the Yankees is that they are rushing these kids thorugh the minors. They have to stop doing that. Let these kids pitch at each level for a year. They are rushing them and then paying the consequences for it.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is the Yankees problem &#8211; they are a team of extremes. We have two types of players &#8211; young/inexperienced and post-prime veterans. When the vets can&#8217;t get it done, they have to rely on the young guys. But that puts pressure on the new guys to perform and they&#8217;re prone to mistakes. Its a bad situation all around. That&#8217;s why I can only hope that this year the Yanks will clean house and start fresh with a new team in the new stadium. Its time for this team to truly rebuild.</p>
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		<title>By: stanzy</title>
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		<dc:creator>stanzy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 15:23:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Painful and disappointing game to watch.

Jeter getting picked off of 2nd was bad.  Jeter striking out while trying to bunt was bad, though, with a man on 2nd, having a guy who hits to the right side of the infield at will try to bunt was questionable.  Jeter getting caught in the 4-2-5 DP was understandable -- that ball was scorched to second.  Jeter was thinking line drive.  He got stuck in between.

Alex's first error was bad.  Alex's second "error" was a very catchable ball for almost any 1st-baseman.  Alex hitting the ball on the ground with the bases loaded was frustrating, but he did scorch that ball.  He didn't willfully try to hit it on the ground.  He was maybe trying to hit to the right side, which you might question by saying just get it in the air.  But really, I can't blame Alex for that.

Betemit is scary at first base.

The offense put up 9 runs.  Even with the 3 errors, you're talking about 1 unearned run.  Weak pitching was the (sad) story of this game.  (What about maybe talking to Ohlendorf after the second home run in the 5th?)  How a team with the largest payroll in baseball can't go out and find a couple of decent (i.e., consistent) relievers is beyond me.  I know starting pitching is hard to come by, and I'm fine with taking the time to develop some young guys.  But if one of those young guys has a rough outing, you need to be able to rely on someone to come in and keep you in the game.  And it's been a long time since the Yankees have performed well in games that are close in the late innings or go into extras.  I've been happy with Farnsworth lately.  But the guy can't go 2 innings or back-to-back days with any consistency.  So he's like half a reliever.  Joba's great, but he needs to be a starter.  That leaves Rivera -- and he can't carry all of the burden out there.

I remember the Yankees having mediocre starting pitching and a strong pen.  And I remember them having excellent starting pitching and a mediocre pen (with a good closer).  But this is ridiculous.  Shaky starting pitching and a hit-or-miss pen?

It's difficult to invest 4 hours watching a game that you just know is going to be blown in the late innings.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Painful and disappointing game to watch.</p>
<p>Jeter getting picked off of 2nd was bad.  Jeter striking out while trying to bunt was bad, though, with a man on 2nd, having a guy who hits to the right side of the infield at will try to bunt was questionable.  Jeter getting caught in the 4-2-5 DP was understandable&#8212;that ball was scorched to second.  Jeter was thinking line drive.  He got stuck in between.</p>
<p>Alex&#8217;s first error was bad.  Alex&#8217;s second &#8220;error&#8221; was a very catchable ball for almost any 1st-baseman.  Alex hitting the ball on the ground with the bases loaded was frustrating, but he did scorch that ball.  He didn&#8217;t willfully try to hit it on the ground.  He was maybe trying to hit to the right side, which you might question by saying just get it in the air.  But really, I can&#8217;t blame Alex for that.</p>
<p>Betemit is scary at first base.</p>
<p>The offense put up 9 runs.  Even with the 3 errors, you&#8217;re talking about 1 unearned run.  Weak pitching was the (sad) story of this game.  (What about maybe talking to Ohlendorf after the second home run in the 5th?)  How a team with the largest payroll in baseball can&#8217;t go out and find a couple of decent (i.e., consistent) relievers is beyond me.  I know starting pitching is hard to come by, and I&#8217;m fine with taking the time to develop some young guys.  But if one of those young guys has a rough outing, you need to be able to rely on someone to come in and keep you in the game.  And it&#8217;s been a long time since the Yankees have performed well in games that are close in the late innings or go into extras.  I&#8217;ve been happy with Farnsworth lately.  But the guy can&#8217;t go 2 innings or back-to-back days with any consistency.  So he&#8217;s like half a reliever.  Joba&#8217;s great, but he needs to be a starter.  That leaves Rivera&#8212;and he can&#8217;t carry all of the burden out there.</p>
<p>I remember the Yankees having mediocre starting pitching and a strong pen.  And I remember them having excellent starting pitching and a mediocre pen (with a good closer).  But this is ridiculous.  Shaky starting pitching and a hit-or-miss pen?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s difficult to invest 4 hours watching a game that you just know is going to be blown in the late innings.</p>
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		<title>By: Christine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:54:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that sums it up pretty good, Pete.

I felt bad for Derek when he was picked off.  I don't think I have ever seen that look of embarrassment on his face before.  I wonder what is wrong with him.  Is he injured?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that sums it up pretty good, Pete.</p>
<p>I felt bad for Derek when he was picked off.  I don&#8217;t think I have ever seen that look of embarrassment on his face before.  I wonder what is wrong with him.  Is he injured?</p>
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		<title>By: mark</title>
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		<dc:creator>mark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:52:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>farnsworth is more eric plunk-like in that he throws un-godly hard but isn't very good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>farnsworth is more eric plunk-like in that he throws un-godly hard but isn&#8217;t very good.</p>
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		<title>By: george</title>
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		<dc:creator>george</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 14:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>definitely some bad plays by sevaral people.  but they ended up w/the lead.  then Hawkins made his latest bid to be this generation's Eric Plunk.

the goat list is missing one or more people: whomever decided Hawkins should be on the roster.  obvious from ST on that they had several better candidates.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>definitely some bad plays by sevaral people.  but they ended up w/the lead.  then Hawkins made his latest bid to be this generation&#8217;s Eric Plunk.</p>
<p>the goat list is missing one or more people: whomever decided Hawkins should be on the roster.  obvious from ST on that they had several better candidates.</p>
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		<title>By: Taylor</title>
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		<dc:creator>Taylor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:46:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A-Rod hit the ball as hard as one can.  You would have to be an idiot to blame him for hitting it at a fielder...  Or just have no understanding of how baseball is played.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A-Rod hit the ball as hard as one can.  You would have to be an idiot to blame him for hitting it at a fielder&#8230;  Or just have no understanding of how baseball is played.</p>
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		<title>By: Hideki Balboni</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hideki Balboni</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 13:46:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whatever number of games Joba wins as starter this year, there will be twice as many games in which the bullpen blows late-inning leads.  Nobody in the pen can protect a slim lead in the 7th and 8th inning other than Joba.  Expect to see many more crushing losses like this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whatever number of games Joba wins as starter this year, there will be twice as many games in which the bullpen blows late-inning leads.  Nobody in the pen can protect a slim lead in the 7th and 8th inning other than Joba.  Expect to see many more crushing losses like this.</p>
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