Comments on: Kennedy to DL; Joba to fill in? http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 14:38:13 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Pov http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/comment-page-1/#comment-367576 Pov Wed, 28 May 2008 18:19:15 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/#comment-367576 Dee, Santana is 6-3 with a ERA of 3.41, he is well over the league average with 65K's. Better yet he averages 7 innings per start. I think pretty much every team would be very happy with those stats including the Yanks. The problem is that Santana is a proven known pitcher with the Stats to back him up, also at 28 he has many years left. I'd rather pay the money for someone I know is going to perform as opposed to what we have gotten which is really not much of anything. Pete is right 2009 is going to be ugly for Yankee Pitching unless they find some real talent. Dee, Santana is 6-3 with a ERA of 3.41, he is well over the league average with 65K’s. Better yet he averages 7 innings per start. I think pretty much every team would be very happy with those stats including the Yanks.

The problem is that Santana is a proven known pitcher with the Stats to back him up, also at 28 he has many years left. I’d rather pay the money for someone I know is going to perform as opposed to what we have gotten which is really not much of anything.

Pete is right 2009 is going to be ugly for Yankee Pitching unless they find some real talent.

]]> By: Jimmy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/comment-page-1/#comment-367428 Jimmy Wed, 28 May 2008 16:26:43 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/#comment-367428 Kennedy=bust Kennedy=bust

]]> By: MoBoy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/comment-page-1/#comment-367419 MoBoy Wed, 28 May 2008 16:05:49 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/#comment-367419 Kennedy should stay in the minors for the rest of the year and be a trade chip.I like young pitchers but we need a free agent starter for next year.Maybe even two since Musina and Pettitte won't be here. Kennedy should stay in the minors for the rest of the year and be a trade chip.I like young pitchers but we need a free agent starter for next year.Maybe even two since Musina and Pettitte won’t be here.

]]> By: Cathy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/comment-page-1/#comment-367405 Cathy Wed, 28 May 2008 15:46:48 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/#comment-367405 I think Ian is a good pitcher (along with Phil), but he needs more pitching experience. He was taken out of the minors too quickly. You can't be a major league pitcher with only 2 pitches. He's still very young and has much more to learn. I think Ian is a good pitcher (along with Phil), but he needs more pitching experience. He was taken out of the minors too quickly. You can’t be a major league pitcher with only 2 pitches. He’s still very young and has much more to learn.

]]> By: Mitch http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/comment-page-1/#comment-367380 Mitch Wed, 28 May 2008 15:21:18 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/#comment-367380 Good luck to Ian. I suspect his days as a Yank are about over. He just doesn't have the stuff needed. Makes you wonder what Yanks scouts and front office are smoking. Good luck to Ian. I suspect his days as a Yank are about over. He just doesn’t have the stuff needed. Makes you wonder what Yanks scouts and front office are smoking.

]]> By: mazoo119 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/comment-page-1/#comment-367333 mazoo119 Wed, 28 May 2008 14:37:06 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/#comment-367333 are there any available pitchers out there that could help through this rough patch? are there any available pitchers out there that could help through this rough patch?

]]> By: Dee http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/comment-page-1/#comment-367306 Dee Wed, 28 May 2008 13:49:20 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/#comment-367306 65-70 pitches from Joba hopefully will translate to at least 5 innings, that's more than how many IPK has been giving us each game. So plugging Joba into Ian's spot now really isn't too early especially when Ian is out on the DL anyway. “Joba called Kennedy in some article his best friend. Think that will create a rift?" Nah, not if Ian is a professional. What are the Yanks supposed to do, leave that 5th spot open while he's out? He knows Cashman's most realistic options are either Joba or Igawa, he can fault Job or Cashman for going with the obvious choice. Cox and McCutcheon et al are promising down the road but they are not ready in the next 5 days. "Amazing I agree the youth movement is in total shambles. Santana I think won again...Santana would have given us starts and innings, now he’s doing that for the Mets." Pov, I have to respectfully but strongly disagree with you. How did Santana win again? He's with a team in total disarray both on and off the field. And if we were to have to pay him $200 million and to trade away the farm, I would hope that he could give us more than "starts and innings" as you said. At that price we'd better get WINS from him, and lots of them. That's not what the Mets are getting from Santana right now. IPK and Hughes are struggling so far, but Santana is not looking that rosy either. We need to focus on our own team's problem right now and stop wasting time on what could have been. 65-70 pitches from Joba hopefully will translate to at least 5 innings, that’s more than how many IPK has been giving us each game. So plugging Joba into Ian’s spot now really isn’t too early especially when Ian is out on the DL anyway.

“Joba called Kennedy in some article his best friend. Think that will create a rift?”

Nah, not if Ian is a professional. What are the Yanks supposed to do, leave that 5th spot open while he’s out? He knows Cashman’s most realistic options are either Joba or Igawa, he can fault Job or Cashman for going with the obvious choice. Cox and McCutcheon et al are promising down the road but they are not ready in the next 5 days.

“Amazing I agree the youth movement is in total shambles. Santana I think won again…Santana would have given us starts and innings, now he’s doing that for the Mets.”

Pov, I have to respectfully but strongly disagree with you. How did Santana win again? He’s with a team in total disarray both on and off the field. And if we were to have to pay him $200 million and to trade away the farm, I would hope that he could give us more than “starts and innings” as you said. At that price we’d better get WINS from him, and lots of them. That’s not what the Mets are getting from Santana right now.

IPK and Hughes are struggling so far, but Santana is not looking that rosy either. We need to focus on our own team’s problem right now and stop wasting time on what could have been.

]]> By: Pov http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/comment-page-1/#comment-367275 Pov Wed, 28 May 2008 13:05:32 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/#comment-367275 Art, I'm for giving them a chance as they are the best we have. The trouble is that we are giving them a chance and their injury history is showing that they don't have the stamina, All this with them on closely monitored fitness programs, pitch counts and all the rest of that stuff. Santana would have given us starts and innings, now he's doing that for the Mets. The yanks pitching has been a mess for the last few years, Cashman has done nothing to improve it and it continues on it's downward sprial. Art, I’m for giving them a chance as they are the best we have. The trouble is that we are giving them a chance and their injury history is showing that they don’t have the stamina, All this with them on closely monitored fitness programs, pitch counts and all the rest of that stuff.

Santana would have given us starts and innings, now he’s doing that for the Mets. The yanks pitching has been a mess for the last few years, Cashman has done nothing to improve it and it continues on it’s downward sprial.

]]> By: Pov http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/comment-page-1/#comment-367268 Pov Wed, 28 May 2008 12:59:07 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/#comment-367268 Sorry Pete but it was very predictable. Both pitchers had extended injuries last year and have had in their careers. Kennedy has the same injury as he had last year, but he was totally ineffective before the injury this year. Hughes doesn't play for 3-6 months of the last two seasons. It is totally Brian's fault and it will cost him his job. Amazing I agree the youth movement is in total shambles. Santana I think won again. Sorry Pete but it was very predictable. Both pitchers had extended injuries last year and have had in their careers. Kennedy has the same injury as he had last year, but he was totally ineffective before the injury this year. Hughes doesn’t play for 3-6 months of the last two seasons. It is totally Brian’s fault and it will cost him his job.

Amazing I agree the youth movement is in total shambles. Santana I think won again.

]]> By: holdstrong http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/comment-page-1/#comment-367240 holdstrong Wed, 28 May 2008 12:14:11 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/05/28/kennedy-to-dl-joba-to-fill-in/#comment-367240 It is not even close to the worst case scenario. See Prior, Wood - Cubs, for worst case scenario. What we have instead is exactly what many MANY of us predicted would happen when you rely on young, unproven arms to hold a season together. This was obvious from about 6 months out, and it sits squarely on the shoulders of Brian Cashman. It is not even close to the worst case scenario. See Prior, Wood – Cubs, for worst case scenario.

What we have instead is exactly what many MANY of us predicted would happen when you rely on young, unproven arms to hold a season together.

This was obvious from about 6 months out, and it sits squarely on the shoulders of Brian Cashman.

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