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No decision yet on Joba

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on May 29, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Just spoke to Brian Cashman. He is deep into draft preparations and has not spoken to Joe Girardi about the pitching plans for Monday and Tuesday. They need to see how Joba feels first.

“We’ll talk about it tomorrow,” Cashman said.

Cashman said the Yankees are having a tryout at the Stadium on Saturday and have players coming in from around the country. There’s another event on Sunday at Legends Field.

I also asked Cashman about Dellin Betances, who is on the disabled list. He has a “tired shoulder” and was shut down as a precaution. This season has been the most he has thrown over an extended period of time. The numbers bear that out:

2005 High school in Brooklyn: 41.2 innings

2006 rookie ball: 23.1 innings

2007 Class A ball: 25 innings

2008 Class A ball: 55 innings

What’s the world coming to? You get the GM of the Yankees on the phone and the conversation turns to the draft and Class A pitchers.

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46 Responses to “No decision yet on Joba”

  1. Irish May 29th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Cash bring up any names they were looking at for their spot in the draft?

  2. ham_fighter May 29th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    its such a beautiful afternoon, i think im gonna head up to trenton and watch george kontos pitch vs. new hampshire. word is that reggie jackson has been in town the last few nights, so ill bring the camera and get there early and see if i can get a pic with him.

  3. mel May 29th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Too bad about Betances. Sounds similar to what Buchholz went through late last season.

    Can’t believe we would actually miss Bruney’s presence. He was as close to a fireman as we have.

    The only problem with Joba staying in is that it was public knowlege to let him go 55 pitches. Things don’t always go as planned. The way Pettitte’s been pitching, I think it was a shock to everyone but Andy that he went 6.2 innings. The plan was to go to Mo. What’s Joe to do? Call Mo up and say, “Never mind, we’re keeping Joba in. Too bad about the dry hump”? Mo was mentally prepared to close with the late lead. Mo’s got records to set. Joba has his whole career ahead of him and can finish his work in the pen. Good call all around.

    It seems to be moving at a snail’s pace, but Joba’s proved that he can handle tough assignments and the unknown.

    Question of the day: Are we more offended with the Lace ads or Chowdahead ads?

  4. Mike S. May 29th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    I saw one report that they were looking into Brett Jacobson, a 6’6″ RHP from Vanderbilt.

  5. SJ44 May 29th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    Pete,

    How good is that? Its great.

    Beats talking about how if they don’t spend 400 million dollars on CC Sabathia and Mark Teixiera they will never win again.

    Hopefully, Cash is eyeing the reports for the following players:

    Daniel Schlereth (son of ESPN Football Commentator Mark Schlereth) LHP Arizona.

    Shooter Hunt RHP Tulane.

    Josh Fields RHP Georgia.

    Jemile Weeks 2B Miami.

    A pick for #45: Dennis Raben, OF, Miami. Closest thing to a Paul O’Neill clone in this draft.

    Lots of good opportunities for the Yankees with their first two selections.

    Its not a deep draft this year but, they should have some interesting options to choose from in the first 5-10 rounds.

  6. George May 29th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    Irish stole my thunder. Peter, other than who ever is availble when they pick 28th in the first round, do you have a sensible idea on what the Yankees wish list is from 28th pick to the 44th? Are they at High Schoolers like Aaron Hicks, Issac Galloway, Gerrit Cole and his 98 mph fastball or Tanner Scheppers, RHP from Fresno State a previouse top 10 pick that now has a stress fracture in his shoulder? I still do not think Scheppers drops out of the top 15 since it is not a ligament or rotator cuff issue. Also, guys arent going to sign unti August 15th anyway, which is 10 weeks away.

  7. jason May 29th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    Not too bad for Betances – that is about the best possible news. Nothing injury related, just want to stretch him slowly over the season. Probably take a bit of time off and then work his way back. Also helps to explain his last outing.

  8. Don Vito A. Bellamo May 29th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    My money is on Joba on Monday and Andy on Tuesday or vice versa, bringing up a AAA dude for what WILL be only one start ( barring some OTHER starter getting hurt ) would be everyone’s 2nd choice, right ?

  9. mel May 29th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    jason,

    I meant too bad about the tired shoulder…

  10. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 May 29th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Just back from Italy.

    What did I miss? Apparently, a lot happened in the last week.

    SJ: Shooter Hunt is the son of my middle school math teacher–and Mr. Hunt is as die-hard a Yankee fan as they come.

  11. ellen May 29th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    mel: I’d take the Chowdahead ads back given the choice. At least explaining them to the kids is less complicated. ;)

  12. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) May 29th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    not bad news at all on Betances this is best case senerio, he’s not hurt it’s just pausing his season for know besides the goal this year for him is 120 he was on the verge of cracking that so this way he finishes the season in A ball.

  13. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) May 29th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    for now *

  14. SJ44 May 29th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Rebecca,

    Hope you enjoyed Italy. Its a great place!

    I saw a couple of Tulane games this year and I was really impressed with him.

    Reminded me a bit of Alan Horne when he was at Florida.

    I heard his dad was a Yankee fan. Very nice!

  15. CB May 29th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    That is great news on Betances. Once again – great job Pete, especially with the guys in the minors.

    The yankees’ description of “upper body injury” is never very helpful and you had to be concerned that Betances’ elbow may have been bothering him again.

    There was a good chance Betances was going to have a tired arm at some point this year given how few innings he’s thrown over the past two years.

    This is why we should just forget the results (especially his control) with Betances for the most part and hope that he gets more innings under his belt.

  16. Sam May 29th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    Pete—My HS brother just told me that the word around school today, in Essex County NJ, was that the baseball team’s star shortstop was at Yankee Stadium for a tryout. Do you know anything about a local tryout at the Stadium held today, or is this just another high school rumor?

  17. Nick in SF May 29th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    mel: I like your provocative use of the rarely-used baseball term “dry hump”.

    Rebecca: The Yanks won each of the 5 games while you were in Italy, there was talk of asking you to stay, but then they went ahead and lost again. We’re still trying to figure out what’s best.

  18. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 May 29th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    SJ: Italy was wonderful! Best food of my life, especially the salted sea bass in Bologna.

    And you have no idea about his dad–he’s the reason I am a Yankee fan!

    Seriously, I had him for math in the 1997-1998 school year and again in 1998-1999. The one thing I really remember is that after Game 2 or 3 in the 98 ALCS, the one that Knoblauch had that error, he threw a fit in class, and all I thought was “who the heck is Knoblauch?!”

    Great teacher.

  19. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 May 29th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Nick–Seriously? Can you link me? (Yes, I *am* that gullible)

  20. Mark May 29th, 2008 at 5:35 pm

    Guy on mlb.com has us picking Gerrit Cole.

    28. New York Yankees: Gerrit Cole, RHP, Orange Lutheran HS, Orange, Calif.
    There’s been a lot of talk about the Yankees repeating — in a way — what they did in last year’s Draft by taking an injured college pitcher with their first-round pick. In this case, it would be Fresno State’s Tanner Scheppers. That shoulder injury is so unusual, though, that it could scare any team off. So could Cole’s supposed price tag, but the Yankees can obviously afford to negotiate with the Boras advisee. There’s no doubt about Cole’s arm strength and he can crank it up into the upper 90s. New York is a team that can definitely wait to let the rest of his game catch up to the velocity.

  21. Owlnation May 29th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Surely they must bring someone else up?

    At least someone to serve as the long man (someone not in any way named Igawa). Ross Ohsoduff isn’t good, and isn’t a long man anyway. We’re not likely to win any games right now where the starter has a melt down early on.

    Isn’t this an ideal opportunity to find out what someone else pitching in AAA can do?

  22. Nick in SF May 29th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    Rebecca, alas, I did not think to save a link to those discussions. I think it was poster “gayle” who made the suggestions.

  23. mel May 29th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Rebecca,

    Welcome back. It’s been rough while you were gone!

    Nick,

    I hate the term, but I wanted to emphasize my point.

    BTW, I learned it from Pete. :lol:

  24. Doreen May 29th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    Welcome home, Rebecca!

    You were definitely missed.

  25. mel May 29th, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Daniel Schlera-whatever came to town with Arizona. Dad was here to watch so it cause a little stir. Reliever? Closer? Did his job.

  26. Nick in SF May 29th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    I think Ian Kennedy should be considered for the long man role. And the way to guarantee getting him lots of chances to get lots of relief innings in is to have him ready to pitch on that days that Ian Kennedy starts.

  27. Buddy Biancalana May 29th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Wow, we have some prime time old skool posters right now! All the HOF’ers are present. Nice.

  28. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 May 29th, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    Mel and Doreen: Thanks!

    Nick: Ach, you wouldn’t happen to know which day/game? (Yes, I am a total s—er for these things!)

  29. whozat May 29th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    The book on Cole is that he’s got huuuuge makeup problems. That seems like a recipe for disaster in NY. If it’s the kind of thing where he can’t keep his nose clean, NY could be a problem. If it’s the kind of thing where he can’t deal with failure on the mound or criticism in the press, that could be a huge problem. If it’s the kind of thing where he has a poor work ethic, that’s another big issue.

    Let someone else get dazzled by a big fastball and waste an early pick on a guy who doesn’t have it mentally together enough to make it to the bigs. It just seems like he’d make a really poor bet to me.

  30. sunny615 May 29th, 2008 at 5:48 pm

    What are the chances Gerrit Cole falls to the Yankees 28th pick?

  31. Nick in SF May 29th, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    Rebecca, if I was going to try to be ultra-clever about it, I would search in the game threads during the 5-game win streak. These were not deep discussions!

  32. michael May 29th, 2008 at 5:52 pm

    shooter hunt has got to be the manliest name of all time .

  33. Mark May 29th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    I mean Cole is a Boras client so I am sure he will be there, and he is only coming out of high school so its not like he would be rushed, but it depends on that Boras price tag.

  34. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 May 29th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    LOL! You have a point!

  35. Buddy Biancalana May 29th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    michael-

    Manlier than Shooty Babitt?

  36. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) May 29th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    Whozat rumors w/ Cole he is lazy w/ workouts and a very cocky kid, Scott Boras might havve already tampered w/ his head, so IDK if I even touch that kid. Good FB but an SOB in the making according to some people.

    The only Boras kid I’d pay attention to is Walker Kelley LHP mid 90′s mostly 92 mph, has a good makeup but most likely a Rd. 6 – 8 guy.

  37. gayle May 29th, 2008 at 5:55 pm

    Rebecca–

    Welcome back we missed you.

    Yes it was me who pointed out that the Yankees record since you left literally the day you left I think it was last Wednesday or Thursday they were undefeated at least until this week’s losses and that perhaps there was a connection adn that we should take up a collection to keep you there. But,alas they did lose so it is okj for you to come home.

    Nick graciously volunteered that if it all took was someone going to Italy for the team to win 5 in a row he would volunteer for the job. I posted that suggestion a couple of different days during the streak lol.

    I almost put it on my Facebook but LaTroy ticked me off more so my anger over him became my sentance instead.

  38. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) May 29th, 2008 at 5:56 pm

    Whozat rumors w/ Cole he is lazy w/ workouts and a very cocky kid, Scott Boras might have already tampered w/ his head, so IDK if I even touch that kid. Good FB but an SOB in the making according to some people.

    The only Boras kid I’d pay attention to is Walker Kelley HS LHP mid 90′s mostly 92 mph, has a good makeup but most likely a Rd. 6 – 8 guy.

  39. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) May 29th, 2008 at 6:00 pm

    Abraham Almonte is back ! YESSSSSSS ! :D

  40. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) May 29th, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    later fellow lohuds I’m out !

  41. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 29th, 2008 at 6:01 pm

    Rebecca,

    Ciao, ben tornata!

  42. Rebecca--Optimist Prime--Mission 2708 May 29th, 2008 at 6:09 pm

    Gayle–Thanks!

    Dynasty: Ciao, grazie!

    I’ve got tons of pictures–over 600 (not all good enough quality)–so it will take me a little while to pick out the best ones and upload them all, but I’ll share it with you all when I do.

    Anyway. Back to Yankees.

    Who wants to fill me out as to how this Project: Jobastarterthing Express is turning out?

    It’s like Ramen Noodles.

    Take Joba, add baseball, heat in baseball stadium on high for x pitches…violia!

  43. rconn23 May 29th, 2008 at 6:10 pm

    I want the Yankees to get the best player in the draft possible, but I have to admit, being from Nashville, I am partial to Vanderbilt. It’d be sweet if they took Jacobsen.

    Vanderbilt is really an emerging powerhouse in college baseball. I never would have believed it.

  44. JGNYC May 29th, 2008 at 6:14 pm

    Regarding the previous post about the use of the bullpen, my thoughts aren’t necessarily focused on using Joba vs Mariano in last night’s game, but moreso towards NOT using Mariano in Tuesday night’s game for a 2nd inning, knowing that Joba was available for extended use the next night, and the team had the day off the following day (today). That move confused me, even prior to Hawkin’s meltdown. I had just assumed Mo was going to pitch that 2nd inning. Boy, was I surprised.

  45. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! May 29th, 2008 at 6:37 pm

    Rebecca,

    Joba hasn’t had much of a chance to throw his curve and changeup in the innings he’s pitched during the transition…

    But it does look like he might be starting next week at the stadium, although I don’t think there’s any official word on it yet…

    I for one, am sorry to see him leave the pen for the starting rotation…

    I take the contrarian view on this not because I don’t think he’ll make a terrific starter, but because of the void he’ll leave in the pen…

    What do you think?

  46. Mike S. May 29th, 2008 at 7:08 pm

    Owlnation:

    Like Dan Giese (4-2, 2.02 at SWB)

    ????

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