Game 54: Yankees at Twins
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc, Podcast on May 30, 2008 
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YANKEES
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui LF
Giambi DH
Duncan 1B
Cano 2B
Molina C
Cabrera CF
Mussina RHP
TWINS
Gomez CF
Casilia 2B
Mauer C
Morneau 1B
Cuddyer RF
Kubel DH
Young LF
Lamb 3B
Harris 3B
Perkins LHP
Mike Mussina (7-4, 4.39) vs. the Minnesota hittters.
LHP Glen Perkins (2-1, 2.77) has never faced the Yankees before.
Notes: Jason Giambi is 12 of 23 with seven runs scored, six RBI and three homers in his last six games. … Hideki Matsui is 14 of 27 with 12 runs scored and six RBI in his last seven games. … Johnny Damon is 16 of 34 over his last eight games. … Robinson Cano is 1 of his last 15. … A-Rod is 4 of 25 over the last six games with two RBI. … Duncan is 2 of his last 19. … Girardi said there was a possibility that Posada could be back on Tuesday. But Thursday looks more realistic.
Back later with updates. See the previous post for news on Joba.
UPDATE, 6:17 p.m.: They’re playing Prove It All Night on the sound system at the Metrodome. Just wanted to mention that. Mainly because it’s one of the five greatest Springsteen songs ever.
Everybody’s got a hunger, a hunger they can’t resist,
There’s so much that you want, you deserve much more than this,
But if dreams came true, oh, wouldn’t that be nice,
But this ain’t no dream we’re living through tonight,
Girl, you want it, you take it, you pay the price.
UPDATE, 6:22 p.m.: They just opened the gates to the fans at the Metrodome. There are 75 fans behind the Yankees dugout and seven behind Minnesota’s.
UPDATE, 7:38 p.m.: Here is Joba Chamberlain’s pre-game interview as he talks about starting on Tuesday:
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UPDATE, 7:42 p.m.: It’s always nice to see a fellow Yankees blogger at the game. Especially when it’s the lovely Tiffany of Ultimate Banter. Minneapolis will never be the same.
UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: Glen Perkins’ warm-up song was Fake It by Seether. Nice choice.
UPDATE, 8:31 p.m.: Fortunately Johnny Damon is getting a day off (after a day off). He is hitting .313 against lefties, by the way.
UPDATE, 10:01 p.m.: Mussina had retired 10 in a row before that hit. He has allowed only two earned runs so far.
UPDATE, 10:27 p.m.: Imagine what the score would be if the Yankees were running the bases with some sort of common sense.
Meanwhile, Mussina is done after 109 pitches. Shelley’s error in the first cost him 18 extra.
UPDATE, 10:31 p.m.: Jose Veras walks the No. 9 hitter to start an inning in which he has a two-run lead. Excellent work, Jose. J.B. Cox, please pick up the white courtesy phone.
I’m fairly sure Chris Britton kidnapped Girardi’s dog.
UPDATE, 10:41 p.m.: Edwar Ramirez does it again. 14.2 innings, no runs. Now Krazy Kyle is warming.
UPDATE, 10:53 p.m.: The Joba Plan has but one flaw, of course. But the good news is that plenty of fans around the league get souvenirs.
I am sick of Duncan being in the lineup. He is a liability on defense and you could drive a truck through the hole in his swing.
Time to DFA Shelley. Major league teams already figured him out. He has been awful except for his first week in the majors.
Teixeira is young than Duncan.
LET’S GO YANKEES!!!
“I don’t think people understand what this is it’s probably the first ever real face lift this rotation will see.”
This happens every year without fail, Brandon, I can’t let you minimize the additions of Clemens, Johnson, Brown, Rogers, Small, Chacon, Clippard, Wright, DeSalvo, Halsey, Wright, Ponson, Clausen, and a gazillion others.
(I apologize to any sensitive yankee fans who weren’t ready for some of those difficult memories.)
The Yanks would send Duncan down to AAA, not DFA him. He still has options.
Any idea if the Yanks bring up another arm to eat some innings when Joba is out on Tuesday?
it finally seems like we are turning the table…
i look for Shelley Duncan to break his slump tonight.
Steph I’d guess White or Karstens
“Any idea if the Yanks bring up another arm to eat some innings when Joba is out on Tuesday?”
I really hope they aren’t just planning to keep Ohlendorf as their long/mopup guy. He’s just not suited for that role. He’s a 2-pitch guy. he’s suited for short work. Send him down and get giese. He’ll be a HUGE change from Joba, it’s not like sticking him in the pen will stunt his growth, and you can just kind of piggyback them until Joba’s up to 90+ pitches.
Posted by Gordon Edes, Globe Staff May 30, 2008 05:07 PM
Your faithful Globe correspondent was having difficulty making connections from the clubhouse, but as you’ve ascertained by now, Daisuke Matsuzaka was placed on the 15 day disabled list with a minor rotator cuff strain. The Sox purchased the contract of infielder-outfielder Jeff Bailey, who is here and could see action this weekend, when the Sox face lefties Garrett Olson and Brian Burres.
White walks a lot of guys and Karstens has been terrible so far. I hope that neither comes up. Horne should be back to AAA soon, so tehy need a spot in the rotation for him. Giese’s actually been good. Let’s get him up here and see if he can get some MLB hitters out for a while.
Odd choice for Joba to start against the Jays. They take a lot of walks. It seems like starting him against the Twins, who like to swing a lot more, would better maximize his pitches per inning.
Whozat I think this might be to your liking
ThunderThoghts
Let’s get a win tonight!
From Pete A’s previous post:
“Joba seemed enthused about the idea and doesn’t plan to dial back his emotions. “You’re going to see the same person,†he said.”
THIS IS THE MOST important part of the entire debate about Joba’s role that the pundits and “chattering class” has missed out on. Joba sees himself as a starter, he has succeeded throughout his career as a starter and his desire to fulfill this role is crucial to his success.
If anyone follows the metropolitans, Heilman has been pissed off for 2-3 years b/c he wants to be a starter (and incidentally get paid as a starter rather than an 8th inning guy)
When you have HIGH-end talent, you allow them to have input into how they are able to contribute to the success of the team.
/end of rant
Of course, Karstens and White are on the 40-man, so that helps them. I’d rather see them pass igawa through waivers to get Giese up here, though.
ThunderThoughts * sorry Mike A.
I don’t really expect it to be Karstens. He’s still rehabbing the injury and has been getting mashed in AAA.
Passing Igawa through waivers would be nice…especially if a team picked him up.
Red Sox placed Dice-K on DL with rotator cuff injury.
Steph,
They should tell him, “Everyone gets put on waivers, even Manny Ramirez”.
Hope there are some St. John’s fans out there— we just beat the Texas Longhorns down in Houston in the College World Series tournament.
GO JOHNNIES!
Re TKinDC – I don’t follow the Mets that closely (I obviously live in NY), but I’ve thought they’ve screwed around with Heilman too much. Yeah, he had difficulty as a starter at first, but he does have some good stuff. I really thought they should have given him a chance when they were short of starters last year, let alone this one. As Pete and others have said, you’re better off getting more good innings that a starter can provide.
I grow tired of the obligatory leftie-rightie match-ups that result in Joe G. sitting the hottest bats. Giambi at first, Matsui DH and Damon in left, please.
Again, I seriously doubt if Damon will hit less than .170 against lefties. Although Damon has less power against lefties, his career avg and obp are nearly identical against lefties and righties.
Duncan this year v. lefties? hitting .211 with obp of .279
65-70 pitches for Joba on first start? How many innings is that, two? two and two thirds? FTLOG, please bring up a long man from AAA.
Melky’s inability to do anything as a righthanded batter is a problem.
“I grow tired of the obligatory leftie-rightie match-ups that result in Joe G. sitting the hottest bats. Giambi at first, Matsui DH and Damon in left, please.”
It’s not because it’s obligatory. It’s because they haven’t given up on Duncan yet. Whether they should have or not is something worthy of debate. Personally, I think they should have brought Lane up already and given up on Shelley. And be actively looking for a righty 1B option.
If it was obligatory, you’d see Ensberg out there too. Him, they HAVE given up on.
Also, don’t forget that part of the whole year-long strategy is to keep the vets healthy. Damon gets two days to rest his legs this way.
Hey Tampa Bay Rays
You’ll disappear from this board (along with your team from the top of the AL East)soon enuf.
“Melky’s inability to do anything as a righthanded batter is a problem.”
True. His ABs looked a lot better from that side early. He’s looked like crap up there from the right this month. They clearly thought that Duncan could be their platoon righty in the corner OF positions this year, and he just hasn’t panned out. I’m continually curious how much it’ll take to get Matt Murton. I think he’d be a great OF fill-in and could be a solid fall-back if they decide not to hang on to Abreu after this year.
Hi, I only had time to skim today’s threads. So the main revelation is that Melky is Joba’s son? That’s cool that they ended up on the same team.
I think they will use Britton in a kind of long man role. He can at least throw 2 innings.
Last time Britton was up they used Ohlendorf more as a short man so hopefully we don’t see him back in that role.
Don’t expect Joba to be efficient with his pitches in that first start. That’s just not a realistic expectation.
Young power pitchers have to learn how to be efficient with their pitches, particularly when and how to go after strikeouts. Tim Lincecum is having a terrific season but he’s having issues with pitch efficiency.
As a reliever the primary concern is to try to get outs by missing bats regardless of how many pitches it takes. That’s what Joba has been doing since last August. It might take him a while to get out of that mode.
A short start is in now way a failure or a problem. It’s just part of stretching him out and transitioning him to the pen.
Did anyone else read about 1B Ben Broussard being picked up yesterday? I just read about it over at mlbtraderumors.com .
Seems like another Morgan Ensberg type player…
Wow, 75 fans behind the Yankees?
Pete, did you do a head count or use one of those tickers?
““I grow tired of the obligatory leftie-rightie match-ups that result in Joe G. sitting the hottest bats. Giambi at first, Matsui DH and Damon in left, please.—
This is somewhat like “gravity sucks” or “I would like to eat chocalate cake each meal”
After our Yanks go 162-0, call me!
Hey gargoyle, see you guys at the bottom, alone with your $200 million plus payroll.Nah, what am I saying, you guys will be there by yourselves.
“Seems like another Morgan Ensberg type player…”
I think he’s there for depth. Miranda keeps going on and off the DL with a shoulder issue, Lane may soon be up to take Ensberg’s slot, and then the AAA team has Eric Duncan and only Eric Duncan to be their 1B.
An interesting article on Long over on yankees.com. I find it interesting that he spends very little time studying up on opposing pitchers. He certainly puts in lots and lots of work with the hitters, so I’m not saying I think he’s lazy or anything, but it’s all about them. I’ve noticed that the Yankees tend to do very poorly against pitchers they’ve not seen much before, and I wonder if that’s because there’s a lack of organizational emphasis on scouting opposing pitchers. Or, maybe the hitters tend not to want that kind of info. I dunno. It just seems to me that having more of a game plan against guys the hitters aren’t familiar with would be helpful.
Peter,
Huh. Completely went over our heads. International edition of the NY Times had it on the 27th.
I’m wondering if Broussard should keep his night job. He seems quite successful. “bringining grunge back to Seattle”? I wonder if Broussard=kasey…
http://www.benbroussard.com/
Shoot! It sounds like there would have been room for me – should have hopped on a plane!
Love “Prove It All Night,” Pete and now I won’t be able to get it out of my head all night, thank you very much.
Found a dead baby squirrel or chipmunk in the pool today. And a live frog. Fun times!
I sure hope the guys getting rest during the season have a chance to show how much the rest has helped them when they’re hitting beyond belief in the playoffs! (Actually, I have no problem with guys like Damon, Matsui and Giambi getting the appropriate days off to rest.)
Let’s Go Yankees.
“Huh. Completely went over our heads. International edition of the NY Times had it on the 27th.”
Yeah, I saw that back on the 27th. I just figured that no one thought it was a big deal, so no one brought it up.
Cabrera doesn’t have ‘it’ tonight. 3 hits in the first, 2-0 Boston.
Whozat, is it just Kevin Long who doesn’t spend much time on opposing pitchers, or does that reflect the organization’s approach on the whole? Given all that I’ve read about how much Girardi and Rob Thomson prepare for the games, I’d find that surprising. But what do I know.
They aren’t playing Damon 4 days in a row on turf.
Its the logical thing to do.
The last time he played 4 straight games on turf (last year) he hurt his back and legs.
He’s been playing most of the season with a groin injury.
They are going to do everything possible to keep guys like Damon, Giambi and Matsui, guys who have histories with leg injuries, healthy over the entire season.
That’s what you do with an older team.
“An interesting article on Long over on yankees.com. I find it interesting that he spends very little time studying up on opposing pitchers.”
I don’t think that’s a major aspect to the job of hitting coach. That’s really something that falls on the major league scouts who get to see the upcoming pitchers in person.
Hitting coach is really oriented around mechanics and approach – things that ideally stay constant independent of the opposing pitcher.
They’re major league scouting of opposing pitcher does seem to be an issue – particularly last year few years in the playoffs when the other team had a better game plan against the yankee arms than the yanks had.
It seems like the team finally has as little momentum. Alex came back, there were some wins (6 of
Joba’s in the rotation. I think we can all agree that this is the best move for this season and future seasons.
Posada’s on his way back.
In two weeks, this team might have a completely different look and feel. As someone who reads a lot of posts and doesn’t post that much, the tone of this board seems to have improved recently. There might actually be some optimism out there.
Now it’s time for veterans to perform. If we get even 80% of what Damon, Giambi, and Hawkins are capable of we might be on to something.
How did that smiley face appear? I wanted to type an 8
you typed “8″ then a “)” right next to it. that’s the code for that smiley
“Now it’s time for veterans to perform. If we get even 80% of what Damon, Giambi, and Hawkins are capable of we might be on to something.”
I don’t know if it’s just me, but I’d rather get 0% than 80% out of Hawkins.
Well, now I know how to type the sunglasses!!! Thanks, kd and MikeyJ.
How does Ensberg fit into this? There was some leap in logic I missed.
oblig-a-tory: binding in law or conscience.
Synonyms- required, requisite, essential.
Duncan’s starts over the past two weeks:
O5-26: Olson- LHP
5-25: Washburn- LHP
5-23: Bedard- LHP
5-22: Burres- LHP
5-21: Olson- LHP
5-15: Kazmir- LHP
In fact, I don’t see Duncan having started a game against a righty since April 5th (I may have missed a start but I don’t think so).
That’s pretty close to an obligatory leftie/rightie match-up.
So, because they didn’t put in the suckiest bat on the bench (who is a 3rd baseman, by the way and hits from the same side of the plate as your regular third baseman) then Joe G. is not wedded to leftie/rightie match-ups?
By the way, yesterday was an off-day. I’m pretty sure that Damon is well-rested.
“Hitting coach is really oriented around mechanics and approach – things that ideally stay constant independent of the opposing pitcher.”
fair enough. I wasn’t sure. It does, always, seem to me that they lack a good game plan when going up against guys they’ve not seen much of.
Seems that there is also a DH spot and a left-field spot that Damon and Matsui can rotate out of. Matsui is more than capable of playing a game in left-field to give Johnny a break.
“By the way, yesterday was an off-day. I’m pretty sure that Damon is well-rested.”
That’s not the point. They’re going to rest him during one of these games on the turf. Should it be the one against the lefty, or one of the others?
“How does Ensberg fit into this? There was some leap in logic I missed.”
Because if Girardi was swapping in all his righties every time they played against a southpaw, Ensberg’d be in there too. That would indicate that he was slavishly following the platoon matchups, which is what you were implying.
I you think a little, I’m sure you’ll get it.
Hey Pete, Are the Yankees signing for those 75 fans?
I also tore a back muscle getting out of bed one morning, that should preclude me from ever sleeping.
Whozat & CB …. Re: The role of hitting coaches ….I get the impression that the Sox hitters spend a lot of time looking at videotape of opposing pitchers and/or their own at bats. And their scouting reports are (allegedly) very detailed in terms of pitcher tendencies (e.g. in the playoffs, they were told to lay off Carmona’s sinker to the arm side, that it would move off the plate – it did).
But I have no idea if this is self-motivation (especially the tape analysis), or is emphasized by the coaching staff.
Having said that, it seems as if all of this nifty tape anlysis only works in home games, so, who knows?
“Seems that there is also a DH spot and a left-field spot that Damon and Matsui can rotate out of. Matsui is more than capable of playing a game in left-field to give Johnny a break.”
And he is. Today.
Look, if you want to argue that Shelley shouldn’t be on the team, fine. But if you think he should be getting ABs, then today’s exactly the kind of game he should be in.
Its not a factor of being “well rested”.
Its guarding against an older player having to play 4 straight days on turf. Think of it as preventive medicine.
Especially when the last time he did it (4 in a row on turf) he got hurt.
They have to do that with guys Damon, Giambi and Matsui if you want them to hold up over the entire season.
Matsui leads the AL in hitting. Don’t you think one reason why he is doing so is because he isn’t playing everyday?
When he had his consecutive game streak going, he would go into funks, both offensively and defensively, that lasted quite a while. Many Yankee fans used to scream for Torre to give him a day off.
We haven’t seen those funks this year have we?
How about Giambi? Isn’t this about the time he ends up on the DL every year? Hasn’t happened, has it?
One of the blessings of Posada getting hurt is, he is going to be fresher than he has in years in the second half of the season.
They aren’t going to run these guys into the ground. While some may think the game tonight is all that matters, a manager has to think big picture as well as the game at hand.
“I also tore a back muscle getting out of bed one morning, that should preclude me from ever sleeping.”
Depends. Is your bed widely known for exacerbating existing back problems? If it is, then your analogy makes sense and you should certainly not sleep in that bed regularly.
I wanna see how this Kershaw kid does for the Dodgers while waiting for the Yankee game. How old is he? 20?
Good luck to him..
Pete,
Speaking of Bruce, I just got back from his show at the Arsenal stadium here in London. It was a great show and lasted almost 3 hours. I saw him here last December and he was great then, but tonight’s show was much better and longer. In addition to “Prove It All Night”, he played both “Rosalita” and “Candy’s Room”, which was the first time I have heard either in concert in around 25 years.
Go Yankees.
coco crisp just went all the way to second on a swinging third strike that the catcher missed.
then he stole third.
…and was out on a suicide squeeze when cora missed the bunt.
Peter, what is so unbelievable about the Yankees having 75 fans over their dugout with far less over the Twins dugout? I suppose that would be the case considering the fans get to see the Twins every night.
“coco crisp just went all the way to second on a swinging third strike that the catcher missed.
then he stole third.
…and was out on a suicide squeeze when cora missed the bunt.”
Wow. That’s just horrendous play by everybody.
Great Springsteen song. Great Springsteen guitar solo at the end (when played live)too!
I have two Field Box tickets for Monday 6/9. The seats are 3 rows from the field down the left field line. Stadium Club passes are included.
I would like to get most of my money back, so I want to sell them for $80-$85 each (face is $95 each).
Anyone interested???
If I was making the point that Girardi went with leftie-rightie matchups with every postition possible, I would have stated so. However, since the comment was limited to one player in particular, Shelly Duncan, it is pretty evident that I was referring to Girardi’s slavish devotion to starting said player (Shelly Duncan) solely due to leftie-rightie match-ups. This conclusion (that of slavish devotation to Shelly frequently/always starting against lefties) is supported by the above comment that he has not started a game against a right handed batter since April 4th.
So, when there is a leftie on the mound, we can pretty much write off 1/3rd of the line-up due to Duncan, Molina and either Cano or Melky not hitting (seems to be a correlation where neither can ever hit in the same game).
Jerry,
That’s so awesome!
“I don’t think that’s a major aspect to the job of hitting coach. That’s really something that falls on the major league scouts who get to see the upcoming pitchers in person.”
CB is exactly right (IMHO)
If you are a good golfer (and I am not) you don’t spend time looking at different holes, you try to groove your swing.
There are 13 pitchers on each of the 15 clubs in the AL. I don’t think you focus on them as a group, you focus on how to get yourself right.
hhhmmm.
Well, not the greatest start for the Dodgers kid
They are trying to see if they can get anything out of Shelley Duncan. They have an option on Jason Lane coming up this weekend.
If they decide to keep Lane, they have two options:
Call him up and send Duncan down, since he has options.
Call him up and DFA Ensberg. Only problem with that is, it leaves Betemit as the backup infielder for the entire infield. Not sure if they want to do that.
If they don’t want Lane, they have to release him on or around June 1. One would think that’s a factor in all this.
As Whozat said, these are the games Duncan has to play in order to get those answers.
If you want to write off the entire lineup, that’s ok.
But, they play the games for a reason. Nobody knows what’s going to happen in a given series.
Unless of course you had Seattle beating Boston 2 of 3 because they looked so good in NY against the Yankees.
Is it just me, or does anyone else think that Bob Sheppard is dogging it?
There is a difference between an occasional off day and sitting your best hitters six times in the past 12 games because of obsession with leftie-rightie matchups. As for matsui hitting better, it may be because he is well-rested or it may not be- if it is the former it is likely because he has played the vast majority of his games as DH instead of in left field. Since my baseball experience is limited to high school and the company softball team, I am not an expert, but it is hard to imagine that getting off the bench four times in a game to hit, only 1 or 2 of which led to you getting on base, is an exhausting feat that requires an off-day every two or three days.
Again, the point isn’t just tonights game- the point is that Shelly has sucked, can’t hit, and yet is put into the line-up every other or every third day because OF LEFTIE-RIGHTIE MATCHUPS!!!!!
you highlight those lyrics as if they are poetic or something
“I grow tired of the obligatory leftie-rightie match-ups that result in Joe G. sitting the hottest bats. Giambi at first, Matsui DH and Damon in left, please.”
Nowhere in this message did you refer to shelley. You only whined about “obligatory lefty-righty matchups” If Girardi was actually a slave to matchups, he’d be playing Ensberg as well. If, instead, he still wants to see if Duncan has anything to offer as a platoon bat to balance the lineup against lefties (something that the team needs), then his behavior makes perfect sense.
Personally, I think Duncan isn’t going to perform in this role. So, I’d have no problem with him getting cut for Lane right now. But, the roster is what it is right now…and I understand the appeal of getting both Damon AND giambi two days in a row off from the field, and cutting out one day that they’d have to play on turf.
Lester Holt,
Springsteen is a poet.
stolen base,thowing error by varitek scores 1 for the birds.
“the point is that Shelly has sucked, can’t hit, and yet is put into the line-up every other or every third day because OF LEFTIE-RIGHTIE MATCHUPS!!!!!”
Well, he’s certainly not better than any of those other guys against righties. They still think he might be a useful bat against lefties, though. And that’s something the team really could use. They won’t find out by not playing him.
He’s not being a slave to matchups…he’s trying to find out if this guy is going to help the team. I don’t think he is. You don’t think he is. I suspect the team is pretty close to that conclusion as well. This may very well be Shelley’s last chance. But, there’s no way to find out other than playing him, so…
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7812
Question, do they not let MLB players get more than one shot at their photo or do they choose silly faces on purpose? I mean, with yearbook photos you always expect those to be bad but these are million dollar stars and half the photos of them are horrid.
I just don’t want to be here tonight to witness the beginning of another losing streak.
Damon isn’t sitting for lefty/righty reasons. He’s sitting because they don’t want to play him 4 games in a row on turf.
“But, they play the games for a reason. Nobody knows what’s going to happen in a given series.”
Um, that’s not completely true- over the course of a season I can pretty much predict with a fair amount of accuracy who will win and who will lose- if that were the case teams would start Jeff Weaver every game and have a line-up full of Willie Bloomquists with the theory that “no one knows what will happen”.
It is not unforseen that Bedard, a far better pitcher than Tim Wakefield, would get a “W”. Had Dice K not been injured, leading to the Sox going to their pen in the 4th inning, they would have won that game. The first game of the series was a toss up- Felix would ordinarily be better than Sabathia, but thanks to the anemic M’s line-up, the Sox won that game.
Tseng –
You are so right!!!!!! You just made me laugh so hard, because I have thought the same thing. What the- one shot and done? No proofs?? what?
Baseball is too poor to waste money on taking more than one shot. I mean, they’re suing little leagues over copying uniforms and team names, right?
Obesed Poopi on fire, again
“I grow tired of the obligatory leftie-rightie match-ups that result in Joe G. sitting the hottest bats. Giambi at first, Matsui DH and Damon in left, please.
Again, I seriously doubt if Damon will hit less than .170 against lefties. Although Damon has less power against lefties, his career avg and obp are nearly identical against lefties and righties.
Duncan this year v. lefties? hitting .211 with obp of .279″
Yes, you are clearly correct- no where in that post did I mention Shelly Duncan- except for the part where I said, “Giambi at first, Matsui DH and Damon in left” which would have resulted in Shelly Duncan being removed from the line-up. Likewise, when I said that Damon has a career average against lefties comperable to that against righties, and then referenced Duncan hitting .211 this year, I wasn’t referring to Shelly Duncan, I was referring to Sandy Duncan- the reason she can’t hit is because she only has one eye.
Tseng -
You know what they say – people with the most money are the cheapest!
Street poet. Or Turnpike poet.
“Duncan this year v. lefties? hitting .211 with obp of .279″
No one has argued that Duncan has been hitting well this season. No one has argued that Damon’s average against lefties is better than Shelley’s right now. However, you continually ignore WHY they’re sitting Damon and what that means for the rest of the lineup. You also CONTINUE to ignore the point that this team could REALLY use a guy with good platoon splits against lefties. I _agree_ that Duncan’s not that guy. The Yankees don’t seem to have decided that yet. Given that…their behavior makes perfect sense and is NOT a slavish playing of the matchups. There’s a guy that they continue to want to see if he’s going to contribute against lefty starters. Because that has value to this team. How would they find that out by not playing him, exactly? A day on which they want to sit Damon seems like the perfect day to play that guy, doesn’t it?
Tiffany of Ultimate Banter?
Your link doesn’t work.
I mean, I guess I can’t blame them for going after little league. A lot of these teams have larger fan bases than teams like the Marlins and the Orioles, after all.
aw, that’s a shame. An error by Pedroia.
Tough break for the little ferret.
“Lester Holt,
Springsteen is a poet.”
thanks, I wasn’t sure, but now that some guy named Clay Buchholz stole my laptop, (aka Joe) said so I guess it must be true.
keep in mind that many people also find Jim Morrison “a poet” as well
Whozat,
Forget using logic. Anybody who truly believes they can pick the outcome of games with extreme accuracy ain’t gonna get the concept of why Damon is sitting.
I’m sure he also knew the Yankees were going to hammer Bedard the other day. Ironically, a game in which Duncan hit a 3 run HR.
“Tough break for the little ferret.”
hahaha
“Forget using logic. Anybody who truly believes they can pick the outcome of games with extreme accuracy ain’t gonna get the concept of why Damon is sitting.”
‘strue. I dunno. I guess if there’s one thing I’ve learned here on the internet is that not everyone argues from facts and not everyone uses logic to move from evidence to a rational conclusion. It’s been really weird.
evenin everyone.
i too am a little iffy about Shelley always being in the lineup… i know they want to get him going but there IS no where for him to play everyday, so what, have him play everyday while he’s struggling so when he gets hot you can insert him as needed? whatever.
so Joba is gonna start. Can’t wait. if he reaches his pitch count by say, the 5th, who comes in for long relief?
lovely evening here in PA. i’m camped out on the front porch with the game on my laptop while barbecuing burgers and dogs. ah, the american summer..or late spring.
This should be a good evening: watching my Bruins play baseball and watching Fullerton play later to go with a Yankee game.
Let’s see if the Yanks can right this porous ship.
gametime!
C’mon Derek.
Good to see the Yankees being a bit patient with a pitcher they haven’t seen before.
Who are these lame announcers?
Steph…. Have to pull for the Sun Devils….
O’s tie Sux at 2-2 on a Huff HR
Unlike the HR that John Sterling just saw, this HR actually counted.
Can we please get lasik for John?
is the sound messed up for anyone else on MLB.TV?
I’m sticking with my SoCal pride and my college team. I’ve got to respect Fullerton, though. Always excellent.
Did alex get good wood on that? I’m watching on Gameday
We’re watching on My9, and the sound is just, well, weird. Michael Kay sounds like he’s a mile away from the mike or something. I can’t quite put my finger on it.
kd -
Yeah. Alex hit it well but right at ss.
Well, except for the fact that I don’t care much for the Twinkies’ announcers’ voices, no, I’m not having any trouble with the sound. What level feed do you have it on?
I’m not even getting the announcers on MY9, just game sounds.
My9 broadcasts always seem a bit weird to me.
Hey, we’ll take that!
good job Hideki
400
which one are you on Steph
A lucky bloop by Matsui! Wow, I thought the SS had that.
Nice job, Bobby & Hideki!
thanks doreen. gameday is the bane of my west coast existence.
I’m on 1.2 M.
Ah, just changed to 800 and it’s working
It’s a slower feed, but the picture quality is better. I’ll check and see what happens at 400k.
Steph the Twins broadcasters aren’t any worse than Michael Kay.
“A mustache and a thong… that just doesn’t go together.”
-FSNO announcer.
I checked through all of them, and they seem to be working. Just going through those annoying commercials…I liked it better when they didn’t have any.
Steph,
Kurt Suzuki (Oakland A’s) was a catcher on the Fullerton championship team. He’s from my side of the world.
Yeah, Fullerton always seems to put something together even when they don’t have the best players. They’ve got some good ones coming into the school from the signing session. Same as the Bruins.
If it’s a Bruins-Titans match-up for tomorrow night, I’m seriously considering making the drive over to Fullerton to watch it.
Mooooooose
Nice wait to start, a K
That was a wicked curve he had there. Gomez ran out of the box.
Not that it matters but Shelley’s brother Chris just got sent down to the miors today. It really is amazin how this game can humble some people this is a guy who was on fire last year and then got hurt at the end of the year and just has not been he same since
Obesed Poopi with a 2-run HR?
come on Moose!
I suppose I should complain about the Twins’ announcers. ESPN U’s are much worse…completely uninformed about schedules of the schools and other things.
I thought Chris Duncan was in the league a few years now – didn’t even think he was on the border to get sent down
little leaguers make that play
Duncan has been taking throwing lessons from Big G?
ugh
He really learned nothing from Tino.
That was a REALLY timid throw.
Oh Shelley..
**shaking my head**
Isn’t their arena named after a cross-dresser?
Big test, Moose vs. defense.
Uh oh. Someone made an error behind Mussina. You know what that means. 9 run inning!
Not good Shelly, he’s throwing himself to a demotion
Everyone ignored me weeks ago when i said Duncan is not the answer at first. I also said he is nearly as bad as Giambi. Now I’m thinking he might be worse.
That wasn’t a very good throw.
Duncan had a couple of good years in the majors. He hit over 20 homers in each of the past 2 seasons, but he has really been struggling this year…and was completely dead at the plate in May.
And now his brother made a terrible throw over at first. He had plenty of time to get the runner.
This ump has had a super tight strike zone each way.
That wasn’t a botched play by A-Rod, that ball took a wicked hop to his left.
Shoddy defense… not good.
Shelly’s last games as a Yankee
The defense seems to disappear when Moose pitches lately…
Mike Mussina is the biggest head case.
I continue to be amazed at how an organization with the resources that the Yankees have can’t find a guy who can throw to 2B. It’s surreal.
Jerry meals has been super inconsistent.
An error behind the Moose=many runs
Good evening all!
C’mon Moose, get out of this!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
damn – can’t even blame Mussina for this – he’s doing his job getting ground balls – one got thrown away that would’ve ended the inning and the next two just scooted by on the turf/hit in the right place
So is this another game where Moose gets 2 outs gives up 8 runs?
Our defense looks slow and old.
Another pathetic performance from the “borderline” Hall of Famer
This stinks………………………………………..
What ever happened to striking guys out.But hey another 5 innings pitcher.
This looks exactly like Moose’s recent start when Jeter made the error that snowballed into a nightmare first inning.
Dammit shelley couldn’t you have just thrown that ball on line?
It’s deja vu all over again as Yogi would say…
horrible defense behind Moose so far.
Wake up boys
Oi…this is starting to look ugly. Why is it that the defense seems to disappear with Moose on the mound?
Yanks tend to get opposing hitters out of slumps………
Yankees should take note… singles seem to work just as well as the long ball..
3-1, afraid this could be a long night that will over soon.
How can anyone blame Mussina for this? Ground ball to Duncan – no outs. Ground ball that ARod should have handled. No outs.
I feel like I’m watching Ian Kennedy pitch.
Moos has got to be saying why me
an error and two balls just out of reach of the infielders
“Mooooooose
Nice wait to start, a K”
I should have turned off the tv and gone out right then.
Horrible defense behind Moose? There was one error.
good-bye Shelly
Anyone watching? Why did Moose not attack Mauer?
The error hurts, but the walk and subsequent 3 hits hurt more.
At least it’s the first inning. The Yankees still have 8 more innings to go.
Jeter web gem
Well good first inning by the Twins!
That was a beautiful play by Jeter. Saved a run and another runner being on.
Jeter saved some more runs right there
Shelley Duncan is not a major league starter at any position. He’s a dead-pull hitter with a massive K rate and low walk rate. And he’s a butcher at any position.
I’m am running out of reasons to believe that this team is anything but a mediocre team in transition. That was pretty much the worst case scenario, and that’s what we’re looking at. Unless Chamberlain hits the ground running as a starter, which is quite possibily not going to happen, and Kennedy and Hughes return and dominate, I don’t see much to look forward to until 2009.
Thata boy Moose STRONG START
Trisha, take your web gem, we will take our 4 runs.
Bring it…
today’s most predictable occurrence:
A) the joe girardi over-managed his lineup again
B) that duncan couldn’t handle playing 1B
C) that mussina gave up multiple runs following an error
D) all of the above
anyone? anyone?
so yeah, that could have been worse. Put up a couple against this tomato can while Moose works on the NYT puzzle and all will be well.
Just about time for a “come to Jesus” talk.
Neil –
A-rod should have had that ball for a double play.
“Horrible defense behind Moose? There was one error.”
So you thought Alex and Shelley didn’t make their own little mistakes? They could have handled it, yet they didn’t.
The ball can take bad hops on astroturf. The umpire might have an inconsistent zone. Add Shelly’s gaffe, you add a ton of pitches to what might have been a quick inning for Mussina.
I think the defense looked a little sloppy. You don’t have to have an error called to believe a play could have been made. Not every error is called.
bring joba in right now, bring what? In case you didn’t hear Joba is not going to be brought into a game until Tuesday so if you are waiting for that you will be sadly mistaken.
I’m out.
Be nice to our guest, Ben.
Let’s go Yankees!
E) kasey waits all the way until the first inning to be negative.
Is there a designated troll from every team to visit in here?
I hope the bats are awake tonight
shelley needs to follow his brother….
watching that 1st inning a how Jetes dove for that ball he will not play SS for the rest of his career.
Shelley has been useless since this season.
I think there must be trolls from every team that take an invite to come here. Just ignore them.
Im so sick of watching shelly duncan!!!! He SUCKS!
hopefully mussina shuts everyone down for the next 6 innings.
My lord these Twin broadcasters are hideous. They’re actually idiots. At least Hawk has some baseball intelligence. These are just talking heads.
I spoke too soon when I said that I got the YES broadcast for every game but the Sux series. Damn.
Maybe I’ll see whether the MLB broadcast has YES sportcasters.
No, I don’t hate everyone who disagrees with me, and I shouldn’t call a Twins fan visitor a troll, that’s true. Especially when someone who pretends to be a Yankee fan is worse than any of them.
I was a Shelly supporter based on last year’s performance but not anymore. Clearly, he needs to borrow Chris Britton’s car and head back to Scranton.
Nice to see Jeter on top of his game tonight!
They are hitting this guy hard just not much to show for it so far.
You mean Britton hasn’t gotten enough frequent flier miles to give Shelley a plane trip?
Would it kill Jeter to look at a couple of pitches?
Trisha, while the Twins broadcasters are far away from the best in the league, quit acting like Michael Kay is anything special either.
Call me superstitious, but Moose started his winning streak at the exact time when Hank started making comments a day before his starts. As soon as Hank stopped talking, Moose stopped winning.
Duncans running out of chances…tex will look great playing in that new stadium next year
Cabrera pitching a beauty for the O’s. Tie score in the 6th.
I can’t wait for when we play Pittsburgh..the Pirates trolls should be fun:
“Aaaaarrrrggggghhhhh”
“Ahoy Matey!”
“Thar she blows”
“Shiver me timbers!”
Good approach to hitting swinging at the first pitch after two, two out hits
Ever wonder why our young pitchers never perform like the young pitchers from other teams?
Like the hitting approach tonight, first hittable strike swing. Hits should start falling later.
Gonzalez hit another double for Trenton he is 2 for 4 batting .330
our favorite delinquent is 1 for 3 w/ 1 R
Hard to hold that inning on Moose.
I’m not a huge fan of his pitching style but, you gotta make the routine plays in the field. They didn’t once again in that inning.
We aren’t talking about making great plays like Jeter did in the first. A routine groundball to first, gives Moose a scoreless and light pitch count inning. Unfortunately for the Yankees, no play at first is routine.
For 7 years, this franchise has ignored defense at first base.
If you are scoring at home, that’s 28 runs (yes, I’m keeping a running tally of defensive plays blown by Yankee first baseman this year for a project I am working on for a client) in 54 games this season.
That translates into giving away a run every other day due to poor defensive play at first base.
Nobody is asking the Yankees to have a Gold Glove first baseman. Would be nice but, I’m not even looking for that threshold for a first baseman.
However, to have a 209 million dollar payroll and have 2 third baseman and 2 DH’s manning the position is just inexcusable.
Ironically, this team wants to rebuild with young pitching while ignoring defense.
That’s a losing strategy.
If they aren’t going to improve the defense, especially at first base, instead of retooling the pitching, go after more offense and win 10-9 games.
I think that would be the wrong way to go. But, if improved defense doesn’t go with improved pitching, you won’t see improvement on the mound.
For a team averaging less than 4 runs a game on the road this season, giving away 4 runs in the first ain’t what the doctor ordered.
“Would it kill Jeter to look at a couple of pitches?”
you can clearly see him favoring his shoulder
WTF do we need defensive drills now ?
S.A. I sure wish you would quit acting like your team is great for some reason. I mean I am not here to talk a bunch of smack, but please don’t act like the Yankees are the greatest thing ever this season. Just look at Matsui’s effort on that last play for evidence.
Over/under 12.5 hits allowed my Moose tonight
Yanks are putting on a defensive clinic tonight.
So what do people know about Jason Lane? How’s his defense at first? Also, when is the draft? We need Cashman’s full attention to filling the holes sooner rather than later.
“S.A. I sure wish you would quit acting like your team is great for some reason. I mean I am not here to talk a bunch of smack, but please don’t act like the Yankees are the greatest thing ever this season. Just look at Matsui’s effort on that last play for evidence.”
LMAO
“Whiff (Cano’s bat) ”
I got to admit really funny
Is there an official stat kept for number of errors made behind a pitcher throughout his career? Cause Moose has to lead the league in that department. HAS TO. The sad irony of it all is that he himself is the best in the league at fielding his own position.
I know he has to deal with variables and get the outs anyway, blah blah…but all the errors get frustrating! As much as I love Shelley, he has been brutal to watch this year in the field and at the plate. And Jeter too lately.. still my favorite player of all-time and I greatly respect his playing hurt, but PLEASE, take a few days off Cap’n!
Oh and not to sound like a music snob, but Seether? E-gad…
…the only good Seether is the single by Veruca Salt!
I find it almost unbelievable that a Twins fan would have the audacity to come onto a Yankee blog and scold and chastize Yankee fans. Pathetic.
I think the Yanks have to consider giving Lane a chance to play up here. He’s not a stellar defensive guy, but he can probably make the throw to second better than what we’ve seen.
The draft starts June 5.
What I’m hoping is that there is a team of Twins trolls tonight and they’r working shifts. Maybe this one will tag out and the smarter one will tag in.
Ok, sorry, ignore, ignore.
Absolutely, SJ44. Especially when you’re preaching the necessity of throwing strikes, pitching to contact. The pitcher has to have faith in his defense in order to do that. Otherwise, the pitcher is going to try to make perfect pitches all the time and that never, ever works out. Pitching and defense, I’ve always heard, go hand in hand.
looks like 2-1 in New Britain Alfredo is going for his 2nd CG
Trisha, why is that?
Get to work bats
I can’t get it.
In order to accomodate Shellley in the line-up, then Matsui who used to be as the DH, in left field, I also don’t understand Joe use Jeter as the first hitter, whom we know Jeter has been slump for quite a while.
No love for Seether? I actually like their song “Broken” with Amy Lee.
Didn’t we just pick up a 1B and send him to SWB? I forget who it was. Don’t you think that was a focused pick up and maybe the thought is the guy will soon join the Yanks? I think whoever it is played for a bunch of ML teams. I believe his BA wasn’t stupendous, but I am hoping that his glove is!
Anyone give me the name? I want to check out his fielding stats.
“If you are scoring at home, that’s 28 runs (yes, I’m keeping a running tally of defensive plays blown by Yankee first baseman this year for a project I am working on for a client) in 54 games this season.”
SJ44 – who is your client? Doug Mientkiewicz?
Even if Cashman gets the worlds best 1B in the draft, that player is not going to be of any help to the major league club any time soon.
“If you are scoring at home, that’s 28 runs (yes, I’m keeping a running tally of defensive plays blown by Yankee first baseman this year for a project I am working on for a client) in 54 games this season.”
Wow. That is absolutely staggering. And innately disturbing.
Anyone still wanna defend not bringing back Phillips or Minky? And actually, I know I will get at least one “but he’s a below average baseball player” response to this, but would it be possible to get Phillips back? I don’t think he stuck with the Reds did he? (now cue the “well there’s a reason for that” comments. lol)
What do you know? Mussina gets bombed and SJ44 has a post that covers about sixteen paragraphs detailing why. Thanks, Moose for subjecting us to that piece.
Gomez needs to cut that ball off to hold him to a double.
atta boy Bobby.
Now get him home
Yeah, the Yanks picked up Ben Broussard after he was DFA’d from the waivers and released from the Rangers. He’s in AAA.
DFA’d from the waivers? Boy, my mind is not working right now. He was DFA’d and put on waivers. There we go.
How can you justify keeping Mussina in the rotation? They need a reliever, another starter who can provide innings and a right hand bat.
Actually, I read here today that Phillips got a call up.
Steph, I don’t know a lot about him but I’ll see what I can find out. I will dance a jig if the scouting reports talk about his stellar fielding!
Punch him out ump.
“If you are scoring at home, that’s 28 runs (yes, I’m keeping a running tally of defensive plays blown by Yankee first baseman this year for a project I am working on for a client) in 54 games this season.”
That is just disturbing
This game isn’t over. No matter how many people here say it is. Or no matter how much Moose tries.
Andy Phillips actually just got a call-up from the Reds a couple of days ago.
“How can you justify keeping Mussina in the rotation?”
JB, I think it has something to do with the wins.
“If you are scoring at home, that’s 28 runs (yes, I’m keeping a running tally of defensive plays blown by Yankee first baseman this year for a project I am working on for a client) in 54 games this season.â€
That’s what happens when you don’t have a real 1b on the roster. With a team of contact starting pitchers. Smart?
Doreen,
Exactly. Wang, Andy, Moose, Joba and Rasner. Four of those five guys pitch to contact.
That starting staff is definitely good enough for the Yankees to win games.
Putting bad defense, especially at first behind them? You are defeating the purpose of rebuilding your pitching staff.
They don’t have to spend 200 million dollars to find a first baseman.
Geez, just sign Scott Hatteberg for NOTHING right now. He can play the damn position 2-3 times a week.
To do what they are doing is criminal to the staff.
If I was a pitcher on this staff, I would be going ballistic right now. Its not right and its not fair to the guys on the mound or the rest of the team.
If they got a real first baseman, they can rotate Giambi from first and DH during the week. They can take him out for defensive purposes late in games when needed.
It keeps everybody fresh, everybody involved, and it actually improves the team.
I have no idea why this concept is so foreign to the Yankees.
Its a headscratcher.
Amen! A-rod w/ RISP!
come out of that mini slump MVP!
Alex isn’t running right.
GiDP?
Well we will take that DP. Now get this roided guy out Perkins.
Solid hit by A-Rod to pick up Bobby at third. Good. Need to string a few more hits together.
Peaches -
I guess I haven’t been keeping up so well (today is Friday, it must be allergies…) but are people already saying the game is over?
Go back and grab some pine Giambi!
“SJ44 – who is your client? Doug Mientkiewicz?”
I’m sick of seeing broken bats.
“Alex isn’t running right.”
I rather he not, he can Manny or Ortiz it to 1B if it means he can stay healthy all season.
You can gamble there with 2 outs.
A faster runner would have been safe.
Wow, Giambi was about by a mile there.
*out. Where is my brain today?
Now Giambi thinks he can run.
Thanks Brandon.
Reverse psychology, if I use it Cano will prove me wrong.
“Go back and grab some pine Giambi!”
you gotta be kidding me right ? he scolded that ball and tried to make something happen..
Luis Castillo gets hurt again
I think my 6 yr old can hit Mussina most nights. He throws about LL hard, right?
Laura, well of course a faster runner would have been safe there but since when are MLB teams going to put their faster runners in the cleanup spot?
I missed a Twins fan troll?
Welcome to my life here in MN.
Beckett well over 105 pitches just walked the bases loaded. He has two outs however. But since it’s only the 6th inning, he’s probably not long for the game.
GO O’S!!!
“Call me superstitious, but Moose started his winning streak at the exact time when Hank started making comments a day before his starts. As soon as Hank stopped talking, Moose stopped winning.”
Dee –
I don’t mean to pick on you, but Moose somehow managed to win 250+ games without Hank playing Dr. Phil for him.
Oh yeah, that and he is among AL leaders in wins.
Give an experienced pro a little credit for being just that, a professional.
Jason, Jason, Jason. He hits the ball too hard, and it’s fielded too cleanly for him to try for a double. He’s running better this season, but not THAT MUCH better. Good hit though.
I thought Matsui’s ball was going to be a hit. Looked good. Someone’s got to look into those bats.
Alex absolutely has take care.
Ben Broussard is playing first and RF for Scranton.
That signing looks more like a fallback for Scranton if they lose Lane than first base help for the Yankees.
I say that because he has played more RF than first base so far in Scranton.
I think the mustache slowed him down. Darn facial hair!
Brandon, nope it really doesn’t matter if he scolds the ball or not, since he is DH. If he gets out he can go grab some pine.
“Beckett well over 105 pitches just walked the bases loaded. He has two outs however. But since it’s only the 6th inning, he’s probably not long for the game.”
Oh no but who’s gonna pitch the 8th inning
brandon
I agree about him taking it easy but watching him run, you can see he’s not healthy right now.
nice inning for moose.
Angel if you are supposedly a Yankees fan in Minnesota, can you please explain to me why you are not at the game?
My client isn’t a player. Not in the player biz.
Nice inning by Moose. Let’s get it back!
“I don’t mean to pick on you, but Moose somehow managed to win 250+ games without Hank playing Dr. Phil for him.”
Hank has always been there for Moose, behind the scenes. He used to commute to Baltimore for Orioles home games. Only now has the public become aware of a special and very unique baseball friendship.
Doesn’t Lane have a clause in his contract where he can ask out by a certain date?
I’ll take some Minnesota football. Too bad it’s the offseason.
“Luis Castillo gets hurt again”
Again? Oy. What happened to him?
You know, we complain about the trolls that come in here, but we should really feel sorry for them. I mean, think about it – what kind of life could they possibly have when their only enjoyment is to go to a website of the opposing team and sprew crap? It is so sad when people’s lives are that pathetic. I’m almost tearing up over it.
back to work bats
“Brandon, nope it really doesn’t matter if he scolds the ball or not, since he is DH. If he gets out he can go grab some pine.”
first off he was safe, second he killed that ball, third your knocking him for trying to get in scoring position?, Cuddyer is a good OF but you have to force a play, he’s keeping the aggressive tempo they are setting on the road and that’s not a bad thing.
Laura, you made me cry.
Beckett well over 105 pitches just walked the bases loaded. He has two outs however. But since it’s only the 6th inning, he’s probably not long for the game.
Not to stir up trouble, but THIS is the type of performance the Yankees need from their ACE Wang. Not holding teams to 1-4 runs per outing and going 7-8 innings. That type of pitching is total crap.
“I agree about him taking it easy but watching him run, you can see he’s not healthy right now.”
I think it’s more they rather he not push hit.
I don’t see what is wrong with Ducan getting at bats and chances. You do not find right hand power like his in te game today for some reason. We may as well see what we have in him.
it *
“since when are MLB teams going to put their faster runners in the cleanup spot?”
Good in theory except Giambi doesn’t hit cleanup
Hey SJ44, how is Moose doing tonight? 4 Runs after 3 innings, right on par for 5IP and 5runs, wouldn’t you say? I am a genius
Moose, he is a special player by golly. Wow, I am smart
Nick, if I could, I’d pass you a tissue.
SJ 44, “What makes you think Moose will get worse as the season goes” Gee, I don’t know, he looks sharp tonight
I think that trolls serve the useful purpose of giving us people to ignore.
Rising to the bait is a sign of weakness.
please bunt molina… i bet it is a dp if he doesn’t bunt
We’re getting the hits. We’re just not turning them into runs.
Not that I have to justify anything do you, but I live in MN, not in Minneapolis. Don’t worry I’ll be there at the next series though.
Which begs the question, if you’re such a Twins fan, why are you trolling a Yankees board from your mom’s basement and not at the game?
Runners on 1st and 2nd, 0 outs, you know they won’t score. Molina is up LOL, fly out to right field is the call
Shelley really needs to pay attention to the game and not think about the bus schedule to Scranton.
Moose is doing well tonight Russ M. The mark of a great pitcher is to have a tough outing when your team lets you down in the field and then to come right back and hold the line. You know. Like Moose is doing tonight.
Where the hell is Shelley’s head tonight?
gj by molina. all melky has to do is groundout
“if you are supposedly a Yankees fan in Minnesota, can you please explain to me why you are not at the game?”
Maybe not everyone is independently wealthy like you and your buddy Carl “Greed” Pohlad.
Here’s a better question, if you’re a Minnesota fan in Minnesota, why aren’t YOU at the game? Why don’t you go wok away from here and go tok your smack there, eh?
Laura, why do you seem to think that every other fan in MLB has it worse than you?
C’mon Leche!
Alfredo Aceves
7.0 IP, 9 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 5 K’s
0.78 ERA, GO/AO 3-12
MELKYYYYYY
Yeeesssss!!!!!!
GiDP??
Dang, what’d I miss? Our Internet connection went down.
I still don’t like giving the out away with Molina bunting.
YO Pete Abe: Promised Land is Springsteen’s best song…and I’m not even a Springsteen fan
Trish, Moose won’t last more than 5, giving up 5. That is his MO
Alright offense! Nice hit, Leche!
BBB, because unlike fans in NY, not all MN fans can afford to go to every home game. I know that might be hard for you to realize.
A DELIVERY FROM THE MELKMAN!!!
MELKMAN!!!!
Melky w/a hit…the world ended?????
Shelley is so freaking clumsy, John w/ his backhanded humor
“Hey SJ44, how is Moose doing tonight? 4 Runs after 3 innings, right on par for 5IP and 5runs, wouldn’t you say? I am a genius”
You told us Mussina sucks. You didn’t tell us that Mussina would make his pitches, get groundballs, and that the Yankees defense would fail to convert -any- of them.
There’s a difference between singles just past the infielders and hard line drives to the wall.
Nice Melky
I should mention that I’m wearing my Got Melky t-shirt.
Also, was Shelley even paying attention going to home plate? What’s up with him? Worried about his brother?
All tied up.
Trish –
please don’t feed the trolls – it only makes their pathetic lives have a touch of meaning.
It is almost as if their mother’s hadn’t grounded them for the weekend.
OKAY, Shelley is a complete and utter MESS on the bases, I’m glad he scored but geez!
Great job my the Melkster
Nice hit by Melky! Great line score for Aceves as well.
The Captain is been stinking for a week
Alfredo Aceves
7.0 IP, 9 H, 2 R, 2 ER, 0 BB, 5 K’s
0.78 ERA, GO/AO 3-12
MELKYYYYYY
OMG he was safe there !
Jeter 1 for last 45?
I’ve begun to think that Texeira will be playing 1b for the next 6 years.
russ m
May 30th, 2008 at 9:19 pm
Runners on 1st and 2nd, 0 outs, you know they won’t score. Molina is up LOL, fly out to right field is the call
In the field of law, we would call the above post in the realm of res ipsa loquitur.
The “intelligence” of it speaks for itself and needs no further explanation.
Good job Russ.
These umpires are HORRIBLE.
Wow.
darn these umps are terrible yet again
Dammit, another safe at second called out. Grr.
Two terrible calls at second.
He was so safe it’s not funny! Bring on instant reply already!
well giambi was safe and so was melky… greay job so far by the ump
well on the positive side of things, Jeter continues to struggle.
but your eyes go blind
and your blood runs cold
sometimes I feel so weak
i just want to explode.
explode and tear this whole
town apart
take a knife and cut this
pain from my heart.
Great lyrics…in Dwight Yoakam’s class.
The replay showed that the guy tagged him after he was on the base. What are these umps smoking?
This is the spot where the veteran in Moose has to come right out and have a very quick inning. To get the offense back out there.
Damn…that coulda been a much bigger inning
It was a force at second, just like Giambi was forced out going for a double.
Learn the rules, people!
Amazing to me how an umpire can be right on that play and call Melky out.
He’s on the bag prior to the tag? How can you miss that play?
If they are going to try and say, “the ball beat him”, then eliminate the tag play in baseball.
The ball beating him there has nothing to do with the play if the umpire is competent.
While Bud Selig is worried about the time of games, his boys in blue blows calls every night.
What a joke.
“Trish –
please don’t feed the trolls – it only makes their pathetic lives have a touch of meaning.”
TKinDC – there is a difference between feeding a troll and attempting to educate a troll…
The Melkman delivers, AN OUT, Captain, gee whiz
“It was a force at second, just like Giambi was forced out going for a double.
Learn the rules, people!”
WRONG
Anyone besides me thinking Jeter is getting a little washed up?
Just a thought.
wish that was more. Oh well
Captain Stinker
“BBB, because unlike fans in NY, not all MN fans can afford to go to every home game. I know that might be hard for you to realize.”
You’ve never paid ticket prices at Yankee Stadium if you think that its more affordable for New Yorkers to go to every game. Its far more affordable in MN to go to games.
Cashman needs to send footage of that play to MLB. That was beyond ridiculous. Not sure why Melky didn’t argue.
“there is a difference between feeding a troll and attempting to educate a troll…”
In the end, there isn’t. It’s like talking to a wall in a different tone of voice; it makes no difference. The wall isn’t there to listen. The troll isn’t there to be educated.
btw, for those of you in NY and NJ who are clicking over to the Mets/Dodgers game during commericals, keep us updated k? I keep finding myself looking at the score and muttering things like “cmon Joe”…as if he’s in the lineup lol.
ignore russ m he will go away, his mom will be coming up to his room any minute
yewnork said, “WRONG”
Yew, when is your birthday? I am going to get you a sarcasm detector.
Man, beautiful play Dolan out in right field for UCLA.
Back to work for Moose.
Re: Shelley
and to think I was spouting off in the winter that Shelley could conceivably be our version of a Richie Sexson / Dave Kingman and we would be all right. Not an all star, or even a star but productive pop with acceptable D and a great attitude. Unfortunately I can’t see the Yanks making the playoffs with his play in the field or the plate. Great guy I’m sure, but…
“Anyone besides me thinking Jeter is getting a little washed up?”
Nah, I’m thinking he’s playing hurt…
another jeter web gem.
There’s nothing to do in NY other than go to games. In Minneapolis they can visit the Mary Tyler Moore statue.
“yewnork said, “WRONGâ€
Yew, when is your birthday? I am going to get you a sarcasm detector.”
Aug. 21. I’ll pay shipping if you like.
Trish, trust me there is NO educating this one. Trust me, I’ve been dealing with this particular one for the better part of three season. He is what he is, for some sad reason he thrives on being that. This is his newest place to try, after being banned from others for behaving exactly the same way.
Its infuriating to see him pulling the same crap he’s pulled on other blogs and because people think his stuff is new, biting at his stupidity.
“btw, for those of you in NY and NJ who are clicking over to the Mets/Dodgers game during commericals, keep us updated k? I keep finding myself looking at the score and muttering things like “cmon Joeâ€â€¦as if he’s in the lineup lol.”
Mets lead 5-4 onwards to the 8th
OK, here’s the deal. DON’T REPLY TO TROLLS.
These are lonely, desperate people who crave attention so they go on line and post nonsense just to annoy you. When you respond, it validates their sad existence. This happens on every blog on every subject.
Just stop responding and they will go away. I love getting 1000 comments on a post. But I’d rather have you write nothing than respond to some idiot.
Please help me out here. Thanks.
You would think that with all of the bad media they’ve been getting for the botched home run calls that they would be extra sharp to get the basic calls right
Brandon,
Two more minor league stud performances tonight in Charlestoni:
Abe Almonte 3-4 with a double and RBI and Jason Stephens continues his great pitching for Charleston. 7 shutout innings, 6 hits, 12 K’s, 0 BB.
5-0 Charleston in the 8th.
I hate okayjima
yeh I mean everyone knows I’m not a Jetes wishy washy in awe guy, but he looks to have strained that shoulder in in the 1st inning after the dive.
i just found out my brother has tickets to Tues vs the Blue Jays and he invited me. So i’ll be attending Joba’s first major league start!
LOL. Its Nicollet Mall’s claim to fame though, Nick.
Screw Mall of America – we brought the world Target, 3M, Best Buy and voted Jesse Ventura for governor. Yay, us!
Pierre beat out an infield single. He was actually out, so Willie came out to argue. I wish Scully made road trips beyond Colorado…
Thanks S.A. A Wagner blown save would be poetic!
Almonte is a little beast SJ, he has scolded the ball since his return, I hope he continues to be an impact player. IDK muck of Jason Stephens can you fill in the blanks
Jason Stephens__________
Angel,
Well, unfortunately, I’m in the state that voted Ahnold as the “governator.” At least he has started listening to his wife a bit more.
I love how weak Boston’s middle relief is…. Okajima in the game to start the 7th inning in a tie game
I’m going to Joba’s 1st start Tues. as well, w00t!!!
“There’s nothing to do in NY other than go to games. In Minneapolis they can visit the Mary Tyler Moore statue.”
What color is the sky in SF Nick? Or maybe it is a swirling Van Gogh-esque thing? Just ask alice, I think she’ll know
Good job Moose
Don’t forget Caribou Coffee, Angel.
Angel the thing I don’t understand is this. Pete has taken time to scold us in the body of the blog, in his monologue part of the blog, and personally, for being less than civil to each other. He keeps saying he wants this to be a quality blog. He has also said that he will get rid of trolls who show up for the sole purpose of acting stupid. Yet we have one or two trolls who continue to have their way on the blog. Does that mean that nobody is complaining to Pete? I admit I have not complained about any of the present trolls, but I would think that someone would have. It is obvious that there are people who come here to do nothing but act the fool and ruin everyone’s enjoyment. Why are they still here? Maybe nobody cares enough to complain about them?
Angel
I would personally like to offer you thanks for Target.
oh yeah, and don’t forget the world famous Minneapolis Airport Mens Room.
I’m thinking the concept of laptops and WiFi might have escaped our little MN friend.
Some runs would be really nice here.
Heilman in for the Mets
-no outs, runner on 1st
-Matt Kemp is up to bat
1. Guys, please listen to Pete when he asks not to feed trolls. I really do get tired of even scrolling through so much.
2. SJ44 – Great line by Jason Stephens. Can you give us any more info, as I’ve never heard of him. Thanks.
I, too, extend my appreciation for Target, as well as Prince and Babes In Toyland.
TKinDC, are you suggesting that there’s something in the brownies? No wonder the wall keeps whisptering “Melky…. Melky… Melky….”
Not sure who said it but agree, Jeter right now needs a couple days off to heal. He is playing hurt and not performing well.
Really makes Pavano look durable
Dodgers tied the game on a double. No outs still in the top of the 8th for the person who asked.
Tatis is not a RF
Oh lord Tatis-
Mets/Dodger game all tied up. Kemp’s at 2nd, no outs, Jeff Kent is up to bat
And as I was writing my post, I see Pete posted.
So the deal is they can come here and play the fool but our responsibility is to just ignore them.
The difficult part is determining who is a troll and who is not.
Moose may be almost shot. He may stink. But I’ll take 5 innings and 4 runs from him. Maybe it’s the remembrance of the Oriole game where he pitched batting practice.
“However, to have a 209 million dollar payroll and have 2 third baseman and 2 DH’s manning the position is just inexcusable.
Ironically, this team wants to rebuild with young pitching while ignoring defense.
That’s a losing strategy.”
Well thank goodness ol’ SJ44 knows it all….
Thanks for breaking it down for us once again.
The fountain of wisdom…
Still continues to be the only annoying aspect of this blog. A blowhard, know it all. Sometimes I wonder if I clicked thirty-eightpitchesdotcom by accident.
SJ = Curtis Montague Schilling…
Kent just brought in the go-ahead run for the Dodgers and is out for a pinch runner. 6-5 now.
Time for the Yanks to score this run here.
Dodgers with the lead now 6-5
woohoo, go Los Angeles Torres!
Heilman needs a change of scenery. Real fast. Farnsworth for him?
Nick – it is either that or you are living Kevin Costner’s role in Field of Dreams.
Personally I hope it is the latter.
Hey Dad, wanna have a catch?
oh, and we’ll take a few Yankee runs too pls!
I *heart* Target
The Twins broadcaster with the more obnoxious voice of the two just predicted that the Yanks won’t make the playoffs.
Ollie –
I say Shelley Duncan for Heilman. Win-Win.
(Only the Laker’s GM could get Heilman for Ensberg
)
We all know SJ’s a blowhard who really gets blowhardy during losses. It’s part of the charm of the board.
Does Steve Phillips happen to broadcast for the Twins?
Dodgers threatening for more. Runners on the corners and no out.
beautiful hit and run
SA-WEET!
what a rocket by a rod
MVP’s in a good groove now
OH GOD HEILMAN
MVP MVP MVP!!!
TKinDC:
Do the Lakers have to give rings to the Memphis organization or a playoff cut? What was the deal there??
The Mets could use a righty bat that can play 1b and RF. And Heilman needs to go. God knows we could use him.
Alex rocks!
Heilman might be getting rocked soon if he isn’t careful
7-5 Dodgers now: runners on 1st and 3rd..still no outs
A-Rod looks great at the plate tonight
The whole offense is playing great tonight!
Way to get Mussina out of a loss….hopefully
Keep it up
A-Rod brings in another run! Sweet swing.
7-5 Dodgers, no out. Shea fans are booing the team badly.
Thataway Yankees
Almonte is really turning into an exciting young player.
I’m very surprised to see him hitting for that kind of power at his size and age. Based on his scouting reports and what he did last year in the GCL I wouldn’t have guessed him putting up this kind of performance.
I thought Pryllis Cuello was ahead of him as a hitter last year. We’ll see what Cuello does in Staten Island but what we’ve seen from Almonte is really encouraging.
And on top of the hitting he has close to 80 speed.
Those are the kind of prospects they really need. The lack of athleticism at the majors and throughout the system is an ongoing need.
Alex had some good hacks at that guy. Too bad they are taking him out.
Score?
Didn’t every expert say the Yanks wouldn’t make the playoffs last yr???
So who cares? There predictions have as much value as all of ours.
I heard McCarver today on Mike and the Dog and he also said the Yanks were shot which he always does. God knows Phillips hates NY. You don’t see the real good baseball guys make post season prediction 50 games into a season.
good job Hideki. C’mon stach
Wow I just saw a real pretty DP to get the O’s out of the 8th inning. I think I’ll call for that to be a web gem too!
Come on, Ron Jeremy. Get ARod in from third.
Somebody still needs to tell me how to say “en fuego” in japanese.
Of course they should tell it to me in plain english.
Schoeneweis in for the Mets now
Why is anyone here watching the Mets game?
unlucky
The Mets-Dodgers score? It’s 7-5. Ethier is at the plate, runners are on the corners, no out. New pitcher in for the Mets in Schoenweis…or however you spell it.
Matsui greets the new guy with a single.
lucky basterd Giambi scolded that too
PH coming – Betemit??
eh
yes it is… lets go Wilson!!
Ollie –
I figure the Lakers are holding someone hostage. Not including any season ticket holders.
Ugh…. that was a pretty play for Bass, but the outcome suuuuuuucks…
Jason Stephens is a guy who was basically languising in the Charleston bullpen. Not really thought of as a prospect.
Then Heredia and Olbrychowski got hurt. They put him in the rotation and he’s been unhittable. His ERA is 1.64 for the season and under 1 as a starter.
Big kid (about 6-4) 24 years old, doesn’t throw really hard. Has the kind of lanky delivery that hides the ball well.
The kid has done a great job for the River Dogs.
I love Abe. Abe can really play. I’ll probably shock you when I say this but, I believe he is the second best OF prospect in the organization behind Austin Jackson.
I like him better than Gardner AND Tabata.
Pete,
Great call on Arod’s BP today. He’s has smoked pitches in all 3 of his AB’s. I feel an Arod hot streak coming.
Just rotten luck on Giambi on that play.
Ugh, just what I -didn’t- need for my fantasy team, lol. Losing Rs by 1 on the week so far, ARod on 3rd, and he gets out. Blegh.
Willie won’t last the season in Queens. That team is more seriously flawed than even we are. And they don’t have any kind of farm system to replace anyone there.
They got Fernando Tatis playing OF!
Poor Duncan, I wish he would do good.
WTH??? Comments getting lost in translation?
Passed ball scores another for the Dodgers.
Ouch, that was a nice catch by Bass.
that was the definition of bad luck, and heads up defense by the Twins to keep the runners from advancing by forcing Arod back towards 3rd
SCALDED – Hit really hard
SCOLDED – Pete telling us not to talk to trolls.
he wanted the glasses
Target is a personal favorite here, too.
Sometimes you can’t tell if it’s a troll, but if the post seems dumb beyond words, just ignore it rather than engage them
For those of us who like to actually discuss the game of baseball in general, as it relates to the current game, SJ44′s posts are interesting. If you just want in-game commentary, skip over his posts. It’s that simple.
if you are going to watch the mets game….go to the mets blog! i dont care if you are ripping on them. stop watching. haha nice glasses wilson
Brandon, I think you mean scalded the ball.
Orioles game going into the 9th. Score tied 2-2.
Jason Stephens is a 32yr old RHP who pitched in the Angels Minor leagues from 1996-2002, where he compiled a 32-48 record with an era of 4.28. His stats end with 2002 and pick up again this year with the A club in Charleston.
Maybe he was shot by a psycho woman and is now returning after an the absence to be our Roy “The Natural” Hobbs?
Folks I present the Ramiro Mendoza long man savior of the second half.
Worst to first in 2008!
Well, those glasses didn’t help him see that one.
thanks trish
w/e pitch that was he threw to Bet had some nice break
Hey at least we took the lead. Now we have to hold em here and then score more.
Betemit is the definition of a total hack. He is worthless on this team. A guy who can’t play the infield and strikes out every other time up. Trade him for a reliever at this point. And bring up the AG. At least he can play SS and run.
oh well at least it wasn’t a 3 pitch K for once…WB moving up in the world?
meanwhile has Robbie seen more than 2 pitches in an AB tonight??
F U okayjima
This is the inning Moose won’t get out of…bank it
I see I haven’t missed much… Trisha is verbally back-handing some trolls. Mussina gave up four runs in an inning, from what I heard on the radio on the way home, and Pete Abraham is friends with every hot-Yankees-blogging chick from California to Boston.
Pete’s blackbook must be full of chickenhead numbers!
I can watch the Dodgers-Mets if I want (turning into a Dodger blowout.). It’s not like I can watch the Yankees on YES. Might as well while I flip between the Bruins game, anyway.
Ack, the Yanks definitely didn’t take advantage there.
You’re welcome Brandon.
Enough! and your other blog names,
You don’t like the posts, don’t read or respond to ‘em.
I ain’t gonna change. You don’t control the content of the blog. Nor do your alter egos.
Happy trolling.
Betemit makes me cringe every time I see him up. Does he ever make contact?
Betemit v Duncan…. Height is the only difference between the two.
Cano,seriously, is the bat to heavy for you that you can’t hold it on you shoulder for at least 2 pitches.
Bet will hit tonight just watch, oh BTW those are his presecription glasses he has to wear them when he plays baseball
“if you are going to watch the mets game….go to the mets blog!”
Mets fans don’t know how to use a computer…
Much less read…
Sherrill on the mound for the O’s. Man he’s throwing gas.
Papelsmear is up for the Sux. Guess Francoma is going to take a page out of Girardi’s book if the Sux don’t score and use his closer in a tie game.
I wish Pete would ask Girardi why he is so tied to Betemit. He does nothing for us. He’s not a threat off the bench. He can’t field. What’s the point? Does anyone know how Ben Broussard is doing down in AAA?
Im sorry but how is it that you can go up to the plate without your glasses? just makes complete no sense to me. You obviously need the glasses to see yes?? Not that the glasses helped him on that pitch but still??
prescriptions*
sorry eating right now * brb
Mr. Moose will give up at least 3 runs this inning
Isn’t Phil going to get a similar pair of glasses to wear when he returns to the mound?
SJ44,
You ever think that more than one person doesn’t like your whole thing here? You know it could be that. It’s a big board and you don’t exactly inspire good feelings for everyone.
SJ,
What’s the skinny on this Stephens kid.
Tell ‘em, SJ. I like reading your posts.
Betemit needs to borrow my glasses. They’re so thick I’ve been told I should be able to see into the future.
The Yankees don’t really have anyone who is good off the bench, in a pinch-hitting situation. Where’s Ruben Sierra?
Nice catch, Matsui San.
MY9 was coming back from commercial and had the camera dwell on Joba who is sitting next to Andy Petite. Joba seemed to just be jabbering away to no one in particular or maybe someone off camera at the top of the dugout.It looked really kooky and Andy wasn’t even paying attention to him.
The best part was that Betemit went back to get his glasses and then promptly looked at a pitch right down the middle for strike 3.
I have to agree – I think he is a total hack. We need more athleticism on this team, and Ensberg, Betemit and Duncan are candidates for replacement. I’d rather try Alberto gonzales, Gardner, and Jason Lane.
Who knew Godzilla had wheels?
good stuff
“Isn’t Phil going to get a similar pair of glasses to wear when he returns to the mound?”
yes except his will look like Nate Robertson’s
oh lord, I thought all 3 were going to collide, lol
“Betemit v Duncan…. Height is the only difference between the two.”
Betemit has the energy Duncan has and the ability to play the OF and the forearm punches??
Betemit’s time is numbered here. He’s the backup 3b to a guy who never gets hurt who brings nothing else to the table.
Broussard’s hitting .400. Had a hit today, no hits yesterday, and made his debut with 3 hits.
“Where’s Ruben Sierra?”
Retired.
Jason Stephens was born on October 10, 1984. He’s 24 years old. He was drafted by the Yankees in the 6th round in 2003.
I think you have the wrong Jason Stephens.
Joba will talk to anyone and everyone. Even himself I think.
He’s just a happy-go-lucky guy
“You don’t like the posts, don’t read or respond to ‘em.
I ain’t gonna change. You don’t control the content of the blog. Nor do your alter egos.”
I try. But they are hard to miss when you repeat the same 1000 words every day…. You TRY to control the content of this blog. People are here to read Pete, not you.
Change your ego? I don’t think anyone can get their hands around your ego… But keep standing on your box and shouting as loud as you can.
Wow… You are an important person on a website. What a life you must live!
Ok, I see the skinny up above. He’s like Clippard from what I gather. 90ish, with a 12-6, and good command.
Another last-at-bat win for the sux
SJ,
One of the most striking things about the system this year was the impact that Almonte getting hurt had on the Charleston offense.
It went from a juggernaut to struggling. Now Suttle and Romine also got hurt and that obviously had a huge impact, as did Synder cooling off.
But it really did seem like Almonte was the engine for that team.
Physically, with his combination of speed and strength he’s very promising. Much better athlete than Tabata.
Again, it’s just great to have guys like that in the system. In the past it would have been great just to have one athletic outfielder in the system who showed promising baseball skills.
Now it looks like they have several.
MOOOOOOOSE!
One more out Brainiac!!!! COME ON!
Every night turns into the anti-SJ44, pro SJ44 whine show. Is SJ 15 yrs old? My teenager doesn’t whine as much as he does. The ego is huge. Quit whining and post about the Yankees.
Laura: I think Cash has always been a fan of Betemit’s (or someone in the org. has, cause they tried to trade for him a few times) so maybe this one is more his influence? I dunno, WB does have potential and he can be beastly when in a hot streak, but for a bench player he’s a bit too feast or famine for my tastes also.
Could that Best Buy banner be any more prominent? I feel like going out and buying a DVD player looking at that thing. I guess that’s the point.
It is curious that SJ is involved every single time with the drama. Why is that? He should change his handle to DramaQueen44.
Well, we’ve got the anti-SJ44 troll. Everyone, don’t engage the fool.
DiceK on DL.
Music to my ears, the words “shoulder fatigue” in May!
Off topic: CLE put Hafner on the DL. Does anyone else think that maybe he was juicing and is having after effects of getting off of it? That would explain his crappy offense.
Cashman has been a fan of Betemit for a while. They tried to trade Proctor for him when he was with Atlanta but were rebuffed.
The same troll is changing his name repeatedly. I repeat, do -not- engage.
Even Cashman can’t be this boneheaded. Betemit is terrible. he makes me pine for Cairo.
the twins announcers just predicted a two run homer
cmon Moose
http://www.thebaseballcube.com.....hens.shtml
looks like the baseball cube is tacking on his stats to an older player out of the game.
ooops, should have checked the Charleston roster.
PS-
I’d take 50 SJ’s here vs 1 Russ. SJ’s posts always add to the fray not take away. Disagree if you must but it’s not palaver like most posts.
Can I ask where the umpire thinks those pitches are that look to be right down the middle?
“Off topic: CLE put Hafner on the DL. Does anyone else think that maybe he was juicing and is having after effects of getting off of it? That would explain his crappy offense.”
Eh, juicing or not juicing wouldn’t explain why his hitting mechanics are -way- off. Everything about his mechanics is wrong; timing, stride, arm angle, etc. He just isn’t ‘right’ right now.
“I dunno, WB does have potential and he can be beastly when in a hot streak, but for a bench player he’s a bit too feast or famine for my tastes also.”
exactly and I laugh when people tell me Shelley is better, what evidence of track record do they have on that arguement, that kid can swing and miss till the cows come home and everyone defends him, yet Bet actually hits every once in awhile and people want to take shots at him. I wonder why …
Feinsand is on the radio – he just said to Sterling – “One year ago, you had no idea who Joba Chamberlain was”
*ouch, but TRUE!*
Feinsand then explained the pipeline of talent en route from the minors to the Yanks.
Pete must have a good influence on these guys – Sweeney, McCarron, Feinsand and Sherman to a lesser extent all seem to “get it”
“Music to my ears, the words “shoulder fatigue†in May!”
What did he throw, about four thousand innings in high school?
Elite dragon pitch master throw three no hitter in four night!!
Uh oh, arm fall off!
Other than that one bad innings, Moose didn’t do too badly.
So the Twins announcers aren’t Miss Cleo and they shouldn’t keep their day job as broadcasters. They killed two careers at once.
Laura FWIW Best Buy’s headquarters are in Minny so more than your normal size banner is needed lol
“the twins announcers just predicted a two run homer”
Good thing they, and russ, are disappointed, eh?
Mooooooooooooooooooooooooooose
Good job!
Some more runs would be good
35 across: Animalistic 5-letter word for AWESOME!
I remember the good ole days when a line of 4 runs in 5 innings from Mussina would be a terrible outing.
Now we’re all happy. Sigh.
JB Cox another solid setup outing. Scoreless 8th inning.
He now has 8 scoreless innings in the book since he was called up to AAA.
Overall, 18 outings, 21 innings, only 3 runs allowed this season. Looks like he is getting closer to being ready to contribute at the major league level.
In an attempt at humor and to change the currently plumeting atmosphere in here, how about some trivia?
Anyone know what ‘Stugots’ meant, the name of Tony Soprano’s boat on the Sopranos?
A free lunch to whoever answers it !
hint: Any Italians in here?
Alright, I think we have to give Moose some credit here. He rebounded from a tough first inning and threw 4 scoreless frames. All the while he is throwing about as hard as a middle speed batting cage.
IPK could learn from this outing.
I’d take 50 SJ’s here vs 1 Russ. SJ’s posts always add to the fray not take away. Disagree if you must but it’s not palaver like most posts.
I find Russ and ER totally comical. At least they provide humor.
BBB: It should be “Animalistic 35-letter word for AWESOME!”
A: Moooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooose!
“Feinsand is on the radio – he just said to Sterling – “One year ago, you had no idea who Joba Chamberlain wasâ€
*ouch, but TRUE!*
Feinsand then explained the pipeline of talent en route from the minors to the Yanks.
Pete must have a good influence on these guys – Sweeney, McCarron, Feinsand and Sherman to a lesser extent all seem to “get it—
THANK GOD SOMEONE NEEDS TO SET FALSE CALL & BLUNDERWOMAN STRAIGHT
Do you see Cox getting a call in June if he continues to dominate at AAA? He’ll get harder and harder to ignore the way he has been pitching.
Is Molina getting hot again? Woohoo!
Laura,
One of the issues with Haffner’s mystifying decline as a player is whether this is primarily due to the shoulder injury he sufferred (2 yrs ago?)
Some people think it was that shoulder injury which changed him as a hitter.
I wouldn’t be surprised if we see Broussard by June 15, the release date in his contract. I’m thinking, Broussard and Lane in place of Shelley and Ensberg. I’ll miss them both, but you gotta produce.
well that wasn’t good
Hey SJ –
Was JB Cox the closer from the UT Longhorns after Huston Street left? They won back to back NCAA championships I think.
Is Molina back to the form he was in before his Hamstring injury?
Just as I say that, he gets doubled off
Moose’s line was not indictative of his outing.
He did his job. If Duncan could play first base, he would have 5 shoutout innings and about 22-25 less pitches thrown.
No problems with Moose’s outing. He did his job.
“I remember the good ole days when a line of 4 runs in 5 innings from Mussina would be a terrible outing.
Now we’re all happy. Sigh.”
Ugh, you have to place some of the blame of those 4 runs on the defense. Moose doesn’t play 1B, 2B, SS, and 3B.
Yeah, Cox was the closer for the Longhorns.
Dang. Molina is promptly erased with the GIDP.
Hughes’ Ribs
May 30th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
I remember the good ole days when a line of 4 runs in 5 innings from Mussina would be a terrible outing.
Now we’re all happy. Sigh.”
Ah, but just like in the good ole days, when only 2 of the runs are ER, we consider that an outing to applaud.
Sigh
lol stormrider, right you are!
UCLA wins on an error! Yeah!
So I’m probably going to go to the UCLA vs. whoever wins (hopefully Fullerton) match tomorrow. Anyone want me to take pictures if I go or take notes on any players?
Moose coming out for more?
Well, if he’s feeling that good, who’s to stop him?
Let’s Go Yankees!
All this love for Shelley freaking Duncan…
He jacked a few bombs last year in a short period of time.
He got in a typical ‘baseball tussle’ in ST this year.
He is a goon! There’s a reason he’s almost 30 and been in the majors for all of half of a season.
Ensberg should just crawl back under whatever rock he came from.
Lane should have a chance. As should Gardner. If they produce at the minor level, give em a shot at the Big Show.
I hope the Red Sox using Manny instead of Papelbon fails for them. Also, I wouldn’t mind Sherrill picking up a win for me.
My post should have read the following way:
Hughes’ Ribs
May 30th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
I remember the good ole days when a line of 4 runs in 5 innings from Mussina would be a terrible outing.
Now we’re all happy. Sigh.”
Ah, but just like in the good ole days, when only 2 of the runs are ER, we consider that an outing to applaud.
Sigh
Wow Leading Jeter off has really paid off
Can we get 12 outs before giving up a run?
TY Steph –
I saw Street at UT, he was an animal. I don’t remember Cox b/c I was gone by then. It is a very good program – we have Suttle somewhere in the minors as a 2B I think.
“Alright, I think we have to give Moose some credit here. He rebounded from a tough first inning and threw 4 scoreless frames. All the while he is throwing about as hard as a middle speed batting cage.
IPK could learn from this outing.”
Bingo, tonyb.
Scott Patterson gets the save for Scranton tonight.
After a rough start, he has really turned it on in May.
His May totals: 3 saves, 11 innings, 1 BB, 8 hits, 9 K’s, 2 runs.
Another guy who may be in the bullpen mix later this season.
He’s on the 40 man roster.
I’m surprised Moose is back out there, but then again I was just wondering who would be relaible enough to bring in right now
Consider his life style, do you think Jeter has STD? Is that the cause of his miserable performance thusfar?
The Minnesota announcers are straight up whining about the umpiring at home plate this game. They’re right… but I hate whining.
2 ER in 5 IP is a quality start ten years ago and today.
Nice play by Veras in the bullpen.
Adam Jones of the Oriole’s photo in Gameday is the saddest looking thing I’ve seen. I mean, litereally, he looks really really sad in the photo, I wonder if he’s feeling ok?
Let’s go Pistons. 54-48 Celtics lead in the 3rd
bronxbomber
I’m Italian and the word is not TOS approved.
“Can we get 12 outs before giving up a run?”
Neil I’d much rather score a few more and not have to find out.
“Some people think it was that shoulder injury which changed him as a hitter.”
I forgot about that injury. Could be the culprit.
1 pitch 1 out, gotta love it!!
mOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE
just turned the game on…
was shelley injured, why is betemit in at first?
I’m pretty sure Suttle is down in Charleston. Might be wrong.
Nice quick inning for Moooooooooooooose. Me like!
Let’s add on some more runs
Dang Moose!!!! 2 1 pitch outs
TB wins again. I swear, if they finish ahead of us this year, I might kill myself. Well, not really. But I’ll be very upset about it.
Man, I stand corrected.
I thought for sure Moose was done last inning.
I think (if Yahoo is right) that he started this inning at 101 pitches.
I sure as hell didn’t see this coming.
GO MOOOOOOSE!
People who shouldn’t pitch in this game:
Jose Veras
Kyle Farnsworth
Ross Ohlendorf
LaTroy Hawkins
“was shelley injured, why is betemit in at first?”
BECAUSE SHELLEY SUCKED
Pat…
I thought it meant “The Guns”?
Thats what some fool told me at work today…
Ummmmm… Did ER just pull the STD card on Jeter? Are you serious?
That’s good news about Patterson SJ. After his spring training performance, I thought he had a chance to make the team. Seems like he thought so too and it affected him in April. Now as you said he is turning it around.. Good for him… I like the way he pitches.
well done, Mr. Moose
Mussina.. has been pitching a very nice game despite the debacle in the first. He did not let it get to him…
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE!!!!!
I am proud of him tonight especially since he has let errors behind him flummox and unravel him in the past. Tonight, he limited the damage and did a fine job. Should have had more run support but for some good luck for the Twinkies, let’s hold his lead and get him the W now!
Tseng –
That was when he was sleepless in Seattle!
Now he gets to play
Great inning by Moose to help save the pen.
“I’m Italian and the word is not TOS approved.”
‘Testicles’ isn’t TOS approved? It’s a medical term.
run Bobby run!
Cox is really more like Jeff Nelson. Projects as a setup guy.
He throws that frisbee slider and also has some funky arm angles. He’s murder on righties.
He’s also got a real bulldog mentality. He’s not as tall as Nelson. But, has that same aggressive style of pitching.
He is continuing to build back his arm strength while getting quality outs. That’s great to see.
That’s a damn solid effort from Moose tonight. Can’t ask for anymore.
I don’t care what the radar gun readings are, its tough to pitch when your D gives away 4 runs in the first. Yet, he did just that, kept the team in the game, and leaves the game with a lead.
All you can ask from your starter.
Now its time to add on some runs.
wow this is the worst I’ve seen Gomez play in CF
Best 2 strike hitter in baseball
Smilin’ Bobby is tearing it up!
Bobby is out of his mind today.
lead off man on again
need some breathing room for the relief pitchers
Two triples in a game? By the same player, no less? Amazing. Time for A-Rod to pick him up again. Oh, and the Dodgers won as well.
Gutsy call by Joe. I’m pleasantly surprised at how well it worked out.
Delgado w/ 2 outs runner on 1st and 2nd GO…..
FIRE WILLIE WATCH 08′ continues
Neil – you better go warm up then
I love Bobby.
Neil, these should be our extra runs…
Two on with two outs in the bottom of the ninth for the O’s.
Delcarmen is on the mound for the Saux…
Manny Delcarmen = Ross Ohlendorff!
Game is as good as over!
I think we get some runs now…
Oh my god, I would soil my pants if I was the third baseman and my manager told me to play in with AROD at the plate.
I bet Lamb is sooooo happy that AROD got nicked.
Good call by Joe G leaving Moose in for the 6th. I was against it, but Moose was fantastic.
5 runs with zero homers… That’s something of an aberration this year. Hopefully the Big G hits one all the way back to Eutaw Street here!
BAL is threatening in the bottom of the ninth.
we better get some here.
SJ44: I’ve followed JB Cox in the minors for 2 years now and even to my untrained eye, Jeff Nelson was always exactly who he reminded me of too. I guess it’s THAT palpable – and I think we have been missing that element in the major league pen for a while. I’m excited about his impending (late June?) callup and really hoping he pans out.
Speaking of ‘TOS’ approved… I could watch that Stri…. uh…. ‘gentlemen’s club’ advertisement Pete had on here all night long!
Dance girl, dance !
and we do
BBB,
IMO, you hit it on the nail.
Moose has done a very good job, both in holding it together (which is his historical problem) and in throwing 6 innings of 2 ER baseball.
I’m not sure who it was (or if it was even here – it may have been over at RLYW or at RiverAve), but the fact of the matter is that the old guys (Moose, Giambi, Damon, Matsui) are the ones who have really been a pleasant surprised for the Yanks (Mariano has been the best player on the Yankees but that’s not entirely a surprise, is it?).
When Posada comes back (which seems like it will happen soon), the Yanks will be all the more formidable… (especially if they send out Shelly and/or release Ensberg. It’s time, folks….).
‘Zilla RBI!!!!
Sox-O’s going to play the 10th.
Didn’t work out in BMORE. Going into extras.
GO O’S!!!
Metsies lose 9-5.
Tomorrow it will be Pelfry vs. Billingsley
Nice Hideki!
6-4 Yanks
“just turned the game on…
was shelley injured, why is betemit in at first”
Twins brought in a right hander and Yanks brought in Bettemit to PH
I am sure that b/c Bob Watson loves suspending people, he is going to suspend the BoSux pitchers for dusting Melvin Mora and Millar tonight.
Of course no one has been hit, but that is beside the point in Watson-World
Love Big G with the Porno Stash
Matsui likes to get the first pitch off a new pitcher
Matsui San is red hot! Here comes Ron Jeremy.
Confucius
Trust me. It doesn’t mean testicles. The PG 13 version translation would be this dick.
Here’s where Posada’s injury (or Shelley/Ensburg lack of production) hurts. Reyes is good against lefties, and he will face Giambi, Betemit (weaker from right side) and Cano. It’ll be so nice to have Po back to break up the lefties even more.
Reyes looks like Hurley from lost.
Nice job by Matsui.
Cox hasn’t sold bone chips on eBay though, has he?
Everyone who called Matsui a “spare part” please apologize!
Love the Godzilla but he does tend to be streaky, keep it up Hideki!
Obesed Poopi with another winning hit
Giambi angry I’ve never seen that before…
brandon,
we all know shelley sucks but was he really benched in the middle of the game because of his performance or was it b/c of injury?
Mustache noooooooooooo! Ah well, Willy remember his glasses this time.
Guess the pink eye is acting up for wilson.
What are you talking about? Ortiz isn’t even at the plate.
Giambi looked ugly chasing that pitch…well, him and the ‘stache.
damn and he lined that
We may see the Scranton bullpen here soon
While I am a devout Yankees fan, I root for the Cubs as my National League team.
I was happy to see Jimmy Edmonds be productive today. A good ballplayer, and a good guy by all accounts.
I remember reading that the Angels offered him to NYY for Soriano before he was traded to St. Louis back in 2002. I always hoped Jimmy Baseball would patrol the OF for the Yankees.
Now he had declined steadily over the last two years. But what a ballplayer he was in his prime. He would have made a good heir to Bernie’s hallowed ground.
Instead of the hippy, idiot they signed away from Boston.
The joke’s on us!
That was just bad luck. Hit and run that backfired. Hey, it happens.
“we all know shelley sucks but was he really benched in the middle of the game because of his performance or was it b/c of injury?”
yup it looks like it
Dang it. Getting doubled off again.
This is at least a nice moment in time. Yanks leading, Pistons leading, Sux with 2 out in the top of the 10th, and Fat Slappy grounds out to make it 3!
Veras. This might turn out poorly.
Incoming Veras… Time to grab a beer.
Pink eye? Please….
Wislon should lay off the left-handed cigarettes, if you know what I mean!
I like the Veras call- showing confidance in your young arms.
“A good ballplayer, and a good guy by all accounts.”
Unless of course, you ask Tony LaRussa – who hated him.
BTW – Soriano turned into A-Rod. Personally I’d rather have A-Rod now than Edmonds.
Big spot for Veras here. This is audition time Jose. Get the job done and your role increases with the team.
Let the nail biting begin
Veras scares me here. The lead is too small to be f’n around. PROVE ME WRONG JOSE!!!
Veras. Don’t make my blood pressure go up dear
“What are you talking about? Ortiz isn’t even at the plate.”
Steph, in case you haven’t noticed that particular poster delights in trying to get people worked up with statements that aren’t true, but nobody pays attention to him. So he just keeps trying.
Let’s walk the leadoff man when we are up two runs in the 7th inning
E-gad. Nail biting indeed. Smoke em if you got em people!
Not a good way to start it out, Jose.
“BTW – Soriano turned into A-Rod. Personally I’d rather have A-Rod now than Edmonds.”
BUT OF COURSE !
he better get Gomez because he won’t pitch to a LHB
Leadoff walk to the #9 hitter with a 2 run lead. Definitely not what you want to see.
Hope he can work out of this.
Wow. Up two runs, walk the leadoff guy? That’s a way to get demoted.
Good grief. This guy sucks.
Edwar please.
If you can throw strikes, Cashman is holding an open tryout at the Stadium. I will be going and can pick up anyone who needs a ride.
I think I was jousting with CB earlier today – he wanted to see Veras in a “high leverage” spot.
Well, heeeeeeeere we gooooooo!
*fingers and toes crossed*
“Unless of course, you ask Tony LaRussa – who hated him.”
First I’ve heard of this. Rolen and TLR had issues, but not Jimmy…
How does Cano not just tag lead runner? The Yankee infield defense has just been awful this evening.
They’re making some careless mistakes defense-wise and on the basepaths, tonight.
And, TK, from what I read, Soriano always wanted to come back and play for the NYY.
In fact, he was hoping they would try and trade for him rather than Abreu a few years ago when the NYY OF completely fell apart due to injury (Matsui and Sheff).
Was kind of hoping Sori would return someday. Graziano once wrote that Soriano kept a condo in New Jersey b/c he loved NYC so much and always hoped to be reunited with the Bombers.
But I guess over $125M from Chicago can change things!!!
I think this is going to be Veras’ spot to sink or swim. If he doesn’t do the job here, he might not be with the team tomorrow.
Tigers on their way to score 27 runs again
That was a mental mistake by Cano.
O’s have the leadoff hitter on, nobody out.
leadoff guy on
Cano should have tossed that to Jeter.
this is what I hate about Veras at times he looks unhittable other times he opens the shoulder leading to walks and HR, he has a slider that he doesn’t throw enough.
If he tags Harris, Gomez steals 2nd anyways
In Little League they teach to always get the lead runner.
WTF was Cano thinking?
What the heck is Cano doing?!?! Ugh, where is that kid’s brain? that s/h/b a simple DP.
Edwar for .2 or 1.2?
The yankees don’t have a lefty in the pen but Ramirez has been very good against left handed hitters this year. They’re only hitting around .150 against him.
That change up neutralizes left handed bats, or at least has so far this season.
Edwar’s only blemish so far has been walks.
Did anyone else notice that he was out…? I mean, that was a force out he didn’t to apply a tag. Doing so may have made the ump call him safe because he beat the tag. Even though there should not have been one.
If ‘Ol George was still blowing strong, he would order infield and baserunning practice for tomorrow! lol
Horrible defense and horrible baserunning and they still have a 2 run lead. Amazing.
C’mon Edwar, get the job done here.
Sounds like LaRussa has had issues with his fair share of players.
Rolen was well documented, but I never knew him and Jimmy Edmonds didn’t get along… (?)
Silva gave up 7 runs to DET. Man, SEA is a train wreck.
Come on El Cambio!
Need to overcome the Twins and the pathetic fielding tonight.
Betemit needs to throw that ball quicker or Cano needs to throw to Jeter.
Da Melk always makes the play.
‘How does Cano not just tag lead runner? The Yankee infield defense has just been awful this evening.”
Two mistakes in that play. That and Betemit not just throwing it back to second. Took 2 steps then threw. We need a true first baseman already!!
“Cano should have tossed that to Jeter.”
he did the right play, the most dangerous runner was Gomez, Harris made him take his momentum the other way.
CB – Glad to see you ‘in the house’
Veras? not so much.
I didn’t think Seattle would be great this year, but I never expected them to be this bad.
Come on Big Edwar!
“Did anyone else notice that he was out…? I mean, that was a force out he didn’t to apply a tag.”
At this point, the umpires are just guessing every call.
Lets see how Ramirez does with some pressure
Not a lot to look at from Veras – BB and a DP ball misplayed. I’ll still take Edwar in this spot from what we’ve seen so far.
It may have looked bad, but I think that he was out. On the replay the throw clearly beat him to second base…
YEH EDWAR !
Very true. I think they could use both practices given their ineptness at times tonight, SJ.
Nice job by Edwar.
Way to go Edwar!
“Did anyone else notice that he was out…? I mean, that was a force out he didn’t to apply a tag.â€
As soon as the guy is out at first it is no longer a force at second
Damn it…my Slingbox is giving me issues today.
does anyone know if mlb.tv will let me watch the yankee feed if my credit card is linked to a new york address? or does it trace an ip address to see if you are out-of-market?
Edwar is looking like Girardi’s go-to guy with Joba moving into the rotation.
Edwar perfect again. Who would’ve thought after last year he would be so effective this year. I start the 8th with Edwar, end it with Mariano if needed. “Save” Kyle for tomorrow.
That’s solid relief work. Great job Edwar! That’s the way to attack hitters in high leverage situations.
The good news, we may have found a 7th inning guy. The bad news? Krazy Kyle for the 8th! lol
Lets get some insurance runs pronto.
edwar looks to move up in girardi’s eyes I see… looks like it’s working.
5 pitches, 2 outs for Edwar. Not bad.
EDWAR!!!! (What is it good for? Absolutely everything!!!!)
Way to go, ER!
Good job by Edwar.
Veras CANNOT put the leadoff man on…gonna be some tense late innings going with the youngsters ( damn, just realized Veras will be 28 in October)…maybe he’s just BAD.
Edwar is the kind of youngster we can rebuild our bullpen around…ya gotta be excited about our minor league talent!
Edwar continues to impress!!
“As soon as the guy is out at first it is no longer a force at second”
Thats not true. If a ground ball is hit to a first baseman he can step on first and throw to second. Same scenario.
I don’t see why Edwar couldn’t come in and pitch the 8th only having thrown 5 pitches…save Farnsworth for tomorrow in case we need him then
““Did anyone else notice that he was out…? I mean, that was a force out he didn’t to apply a tag.â€
As soon as the guy is out at first it is no longer a force at second”
They’re joking. The Yankees have had two guys ‘out’ at second who were pretty clearly safe.
J.B Cox. J.B Cox. J.B. Cox. J.B Cox.
It’s so nice to see a young pitcher get ahead of the hitters and challenge ‘em…ER is da man!
It looks like Ramirez has really taken Pedro and Mo’s advice to heart. I’m glad to see it working for him.
Cano is back to his bad habits again.
“Thats not true. If a ground ball is hit to a first baseman he can step on first and throw to second. Same scenario.”
Yeah but then they have to tag the guy at second
Zach – all they care about is your IP address. If you are out of market, you’re all set.
come on Little Mo
jeezus criminey Cano – take an effin pitch
Edwar! Edwar!
Awesome Edwar, let’s keep it going in the 8th, we can keep Kyle fresh for tomorrow.
BBB
May 30th, 2008 at 10:41 pm
I don’t see why Edwar couldn’t come in and pitch the 8th only having thrown 5 pitches…save Farnsworth for tomorrow in case we need him then
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You mean when we hane a 15 run lead??
I hope they feed Edwar after the game.
Come on Melky!
PLEASE do not bring in farnsworthless for the 8th!
let young edwar pitch it…he will EARN your trust joe. I implore you!
Cano is killing all my fantasy BB teams…really thought this was his breakout year.
I’m still hoping for a HUGE 2nd half from Cano and Da Yanks
If Farnsworth is brought in, he’ll get the job done. Not to worry about Farnsworth.
Good IF single, Melky.
BUT DON’T SLIDE, COÑO!!!
It’s hard to underestimate how important Edwar is to this team now.
The one thing they don’t have anywhere in the organization is an effective lefty reliever.
There’s a lot of relief talent in the minors – Melancon, Cox, Robertson, Patterson but none of those guys is ideal for getting out a touch lefty.
So far the yankees have essentially been using Joba to get out tough lefties – he’s so dominant that it doesn’t really matter too much what side they hit from.
Lefties are hitting worse against Edwar than righties are. Lefites are hitting .174 and righties .204.
Lefties have a .296 OBP against Edwar and an amazingly low .217 slugging percentage. That’s really remarkable for lefties to have a .217 slugging pct against any right handed batter.
These are small samples so we’ll see how things shake out. But if he can fill that role of getting out tough lefties with his change up this bull pen takes a big step forward.
Didn’t they tell Melky not to do those head first slides?
he is going to hurt himself one day doing that, silly boy!
I’m on radio – did Melky just slide into first?
ARRRGGGGHHHH!
How many times do we have to see Cabrera sliding to first. Bad habbits are hard to break.
Not a fan of a headfirst slide into first…but it did the job.
Funny to see Manny trying for 500 every AB.
Sounds like everyone is on board with the FACT that Farnsworth has been a HUGE MISTAKE…gotta wonder WTH Cash was thinking….$1M arm with a $.10 head.
“BUT DON’T SLIDE, COÑO!!!”
LOL
You know, I’m pretty sure that if Farnsworth knew that Pete called him Krazy Kyle that he would beat him up.
Jeter next. come on Captain. Show us some signs of life
“Sounds like everyone is on board with the FACT that Farnsworth has been a HUGE MISTAKE…gotta wonder WTH Cash was thinking….$1M arm with a $.10 head.”
Yeah sounds like it.
Good game for the Yanke thusfar. After Slowey went 9 yesterday to rest the pen, we are eating through their relief right now. Good to see these guys on the first day of a 4 game series.
Now cmon Jeter, do something!
Wow, Jeter is really hurting this team and my fantasy team, lol.
They need to start fining Cano for not taking pitches and throw in a fine for Melky too because the slides into 1st annoy me.
CB:
Posts like yours is what makes this DB pretty damn awesome.
oh darn
I LOVE getting into the bullpen of the opposition in the first game of a series.
It is like body shots in a prize fight. Put them in the bank and cash them later
“COÑO!!!”
You meant “dont be like Cano”(BRAIN FART). Not the bad word.
CLEAR A PATH, BITCHES! HERE I COME!
I AM THE FARNSWORTHINATOR!!Z
Well, the day off did not seem to help Jeter. At least his defense was decent.
Two reasons why you go to Farnsworth for the 8th inning.
One, that’s his job now. If they aren’t going to use him in that situation, it makes no sense having him on the team.
Two, you don’t want to overdo it with Edwar. Its a 4 game series. Why give more Twins hitters more looks at him? Also, if he throws too many pitches, you lose him for a day or two.
Its up to Krazy Kyle to step up here and get 3 clean outs.
**fingers crossed!**
Cano is back to his old ways. Someone tell him to grow a ‘stache pronto!
Please take a few days off, Derek…
Speaking of which didnt they send down AG *after* Jeter got hit? I never really understood the logic behind that one
Well folks, this is the hand we’ve been dealt…
Farnsworth in close games…might as well get used to it…
But he is a New York Yankee and so we pull for him!
Let’s go Farnsworth!!!!
Let’s go Yanks!!!!
I need to take this to the road to get to the drugstore before 11. With my luck, the Orioles will hit a walk off and I won’t be here to see it.
GO O’S!
The Over/Under for the number of batter’s Krazy Kyle will face is 4.
“You know, I’m pretty sure that if Farnsworth knew that Pete called him Krazy Kyle that he would beat him up.”
LMAO
“PLEASE do not bring in farnsworthless for the 8th!”
Unfortunately this is the result of a Joba-less BP. Get used to it!
Uh guys, Melky Cabrera’s slide it to first is practically patented. If he stopped doing it he just wouldn’t be Melky. He’s famous for it, it shows how much he wants it, he should keep doing it sparingly like he does.
ARE YOU KIDDING ME FARNSWORTH?!
another 0 for 5 for Jete
Thank goodness he’s had a good night defensively tonight
I think he’s still feeling the effects of getting hit by that pitch and the dive in the 1st may have roughed up his shoulder, so he porbably needs at least a day off, but Giradi’s got to be dreading having Betemit at SS if that’s the case
**sigh**
Jesus Christ …
Wow. Wow. Wow.
That cutter on the inside was an excellent pitch. That pitch was not.
If this guy got any worse, it’d be me on the mound.
EDWAR FOR THE 8TH IN 08
did ANYONE not see that coming?
Kyle giving up an HR
%^%$#
i hate farnsworth
Not a very good pitch there on 0-2
HR. Well Joe said Farnsy would get the first chance for the 8th. The good news is that if he blows this game, he won’t be near the 8th inning any time soon.
Well, so much for that. 0-2 pitch, right in his happy zone, and they are back within one.
Get him out now and go to Mo.
Geez, Kyle. This is why nobody can feel comfortable with you.
Arrrrghhh… Farnsworth.
#%^%$&E%^*E% farnsworthless strikes again
Edwar threw five pitches. FIVE. auuurgh…
This is why Edwar should stay in the game…
And we are now seeing the consequences of taking Joba out of the pen.
there goes the “why does everyone want to trade Farnsy??” part of my tag line/name deal
But it was a fast pitch!! I don’t understand how they hit fast pitches?!
This is NOT a playoff team with this set up man in the 8th.
Coaching visit to the mound! Coaching visit to the mound! Coaching visit to the mound! Coaching visit to the mound! Coaching visit to the mound! Coaching visit to the mound! Coaching visit to the mound! PLEASE!!!
Farnsworth…oh boy. Please, please…keep it to just that homer!
Farnsy!! Can we have Mo for another 6 out save?
MikeyJ,
No. Joba to the rotation is smart. Taking Edwar out after five pitches for Farnsworth is retarded.
“ARE YOU KIDDING ME FARNSWORTH?!”
DISRESPECT ME NOT! I AM THE FARNSWORTHINATOR!!Z I CHALLENGE YOU TO MAKE A BALL TRAVEL AS FAR AS I CAN!
I AM SO BAD I BLOG AND PITCH AT THE SAME TIME!
“Well, so much for that. 0-2 pitch, right in his happy zone, and they are back within one.
Get him out now and go to Mo.
Geez, Kyle. This is why nobody can feel comfortable with you.”
Captain Obvious strikes again!
I don’t like the idea of having an 8th inning guy. I couldn’t stand it when Torre had his little 7-8-9 Sturtz-Gordan-Rivera. It was too predictable. Edwar was going great, mix it up so teams can’t focus on a guy for a specific inning. For example, if the meat of the order is up in the 7th, why not bring in your best set up guy then?
*refraining*
Well, when Krazy Kyle pitches, I know I will never suffer from hypotension…
Trisha!!!!
Kyle is horrible.
Terrible geez how can you pitch that bad.
any one but him.
Mussina’s probably peeing in his pants right now and ranting at Girardi to get Farnsworthless out of there…!
“And we are now seeing the consequences of taking Joba out of the pen.”
Um, are you going to say this every five minutes?
The other night, when we lost the Kennedy start? Were you saying ‘And we are now seeing the consequences of Joba not starting’?
Oh Jeez, who’s gonna come in now, LaTroy?
Oh no.
I see Kyle cut his hair.
What do you think Brunney is saying when he sees Farnsworth give up HR’s?
Pepto time
Why wasn’t Edgar out there to start the 8th? Why does Girardi manage like its not 2008?
One more Farnsy.
Make me wrong about you!
In all my years of watching baseball, I’ve never seen a guy with Farnsworth’s stuff give up so many HR’s.
He throws a Mo-like cutter for strike 2 on Morneau. Why not throw a slider away or bounce it and look for him to chase?
Instead, he gets caught up in that mano y mano crap and gives up the HR.
So, so frustrating.
The boys in Scranton are going to be needed sooner than the Yankees realize to stabilize the back end of the ‘pen.
Grounded to A-Rod, thank God…
Way to come back!!!!
Go Yanks!!!!!
I dunno what it is, but when Farnsworth misses on a pitch, it goes out, quickly. :shrug:
Perfect comment, Pete.
ok all things considered, not terrible for Kyle. He’s no Joba, but he got the job done. Let’s score some here and make it easy for Mo.
Bruney: “I could do that!”
Is that it?
On the bright side Kyle didn’t walk anyone before the HR
JoeT 28 in 09!!
May 30th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
What do you think Brunney is saying when he sees Farnsworth give up HR’s?
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“Hey!! That’s MY job!” ??
*exhales*
Mo’s gonna have to save it.
SILENCE, BITCHES! FOR I EMERGED VICTORIOUS!
ALL WHO DISRESPECTED MAY FORM A SINGLE FILE LINE SO THAT YOUR TESTICLES MAY BE SEPARATED FROM YOUR BODIES FLUIDLY!
I AM THE FARNSWORTHINATOR!!Z
WILDTHING YOU MAKE MY HEART SINNNNNNG,, YOU MAKE EVERYTHING !!!. GROOOOOOOVY…WILDTHING !!! ….
Basically, from all the numbers and stats, Edwar is dominant vs lefty’s this year. Leading off was Morneau who is lefty. Edwar threw 5 pitches. Why wasn’t he out there getting one out before going to Farnsworth?
Damn…can we ship this dude to Japan for Igawa’s (left handed) little sister?
OK…after “making it interesting” it’ll be Mo Time.
Whew! Nice recovery, but he has to make it interesting doesn’t he
Farnsworth can throw as hard as anything, but he can throw straight as an arrow. At least it was limited to that homer…but I’d like the Yanks to get a run or so to give Mo a cushion.
KYLE FARNSWORTH May 30th, 2008 at 10:57 pm
SILENCE, BITCHES! FOR I EMERGED VICTORIOUS!
ALL WHO DISRESPECTED MAY FORM A SINGLE FILE LINE SO THAT YOUR TESTICLES MAY BE SEPARATED FROM YOUR BODIES FLUIDLY!
I AM THE FARNSWORTHINATOR!!Z
Your humor is pretty lame.
Way to come back Kyle, people need to relax! I just don’t think he should be “8th innning guy”.
“He throws a Mo-like cutter for strike 2 on Morneau.”
He might throw a cutter, but for crying out loud there’s nothing Mo-like about it!!!!
Bruney was actually pitching pretty well this year before his injury.
I’d rather he pitched the eighth than Farnsworth.
This inning was a perfect example of why Joba should be in the rotation.
Any way people want to twist it, for a majority of the time Farnsworth or whoever is going to be able to pitch a scoreless 8th. Even on days like this when Farnsworth is Farnsworthless, this shows that the Yankees can STILL win the game.
Basically what I’m saying is a number of things have to go wrong for the Yankees to lose a game in the 8th inning, and most of the time it’s not going to happen. Will it happen though? Obviously, but not enough to even think about leaving Joba in the bullpen, especially with the way Edwar is pitching.
SJ44, how much longer till Cox, Robertson, Melancon, et.al are ready? They can’t wait till the All-Star Break to supplant Farnsworth. Something has to be done with this pen as soon as possible.
And how long is Girardi going to persist in using Farnsworth while Edwar throws up Zeroes?
All you Torre-haters still think he was responsible for Farnsworth’s ineptitude?
LMAO at Pete’s 10:53 comment. Line of the night!!
We better get used to Krazy Kyle because there is no one else out there who can handle it. We basically lost our 2 set up men already in Joba and Bruney.
Kyle Farnsworth has been better this year than last.
But it’s all relative.
Farnsworth is now giving up 3.0 home runs/ 9 innings. I can’t fully express how shockingly bad that is.
That is in all likelihood the highest home run rate for any pitcher in all of baseball.
It’s an astronomically high rate – that’s like a starting pitcher giving up 96 home runs in a year.
That’s how bad it it – imagine a starting pitcher giving up 96 home runs in a season.
He’s was one of the most home run prone pitcher in all of baseball last year – this year he’s been much worse with the long ball. Last year he was giving up an awful 1.3 HR/9 innings. So he’s giving up more than twice as many home runs per 9 innings.
They are going to need to find an 8th inning solution. Farnsworth cannot be trusted to pitch high leverage innings giving up home runs at this staggering rate.
“Perfect comment, Pete.”
I hope Pete doesn’t end up like that dead animal he found in front of Kyle’s locker!
All Torre-haters this way to the chair….
Ok, that’s one of the shortest doubles I’ve ever seen….
So far, the best 8th inning solution is going into the eighth with a BIG cushion.
Sad but true!
Kill-Schill(ing) May 30th, 2008 at 10:59 pm
SJ44, how much longer till Cox, Robertson, Melancon, et.al are ready?
He has to wait til Chad Jennings posts his answer and he can copy and paste it like he does the box scores of said minor leaguers.
I absolutely agree with Yardley- why not mix and match to let Edwar face the LHB?
Nice hustle there by A-Rod.
The Big G and his humongous stache is up
wow
Another fine pitching addition via free agency by Cashman.
Who was his last good pick up? Gordon? Mussina? May be the only two this century.
LaRussa has ruined the game for all… screw the “defined” roles – like MO always has to be in a “save” situation – Joba should’ve closed the door Wed… Tonight eRam should’ve been able to handle the 8th and save KKF in case of extras… Now if we have to go extras – who’s he going to call – Oh s–toff, Undercover Britton or “L”atroy Cherry Pickens. Also this would save KKF for tomorrow if needed.
Yes, Farns is better this year but so what? He can’t be trusted to be the 8th inning guy. In 3 years we’ve all seen the type of damage he can invoke.
A 1-2-3 inning is the exception for Farns not the norm.
He gives up HRs like Cano swings at first pitches.
I;m feeling the stache due for a big hit.
It’s the same no matter who’s managing. An inning he blows the lead is a disaster. An inning he holds the lead is an inning we all held our breaths. If he pitches to a 1.9 ERA the next 3 months, I’ll feel the same way in September.
KS,
My guess? Another month. One more month of building up arm strength should be enough for Melancon and Cox.
Keep and eye on Patterson. He’s had a great May and is on the 40 man roster. Meaning, they don’t have to DFA a guy to call him up.
He may be next in the pecking order on guys they call up.
Should be anyway, IMO.
I don’t think Britton kidnapped Girardi’s dog… I think he’s saving him for a non-pressure situation to see how he does before really putting it on his shoulders.
This team can’t get a big hit.
Argh! Come on Detroit!
I was thinking that Britton might have smashed Girardi’s car or something; but dog-napping works too
Also, more souvenirs = spreading the game of baseball, so it comes out positive in the end! The Joba plan is flawless!
Why is Damon not hitting for Betemit?
Another good move by Cashman with a 220million dollar payroll to not have a competent lefty in the bullpen.
“Who was his last good pick up? ”
Andy Pettitte.
I gotta say Moose actually came back and gave them a decent outing after that *interesting* inning.
Betemit won’t make contact like that for another week at best. Enjoy it while it lasted.
someone get jeter on the 15 day DL…
We should put Britton’s face on a milk carton:
“Have you see this pitcher?”
16 hits and 6 runs???
COME ON!!!
Cue the Sandman!
mo time
Just a little off on that one Jason. But, nice try.
Happy trolling.
“Why is Damon not hitting for Betemit?”
Because Duncan is already out of the game. They do have Ensberg, but he is their last defensive backup, if God forbid, this game goes to extra innings.
ps – i hate betemit too.
1st and 3rd, 2 down for the sux
No one is worse in picking pitchers than Cashman.
Wow, terrible call not to pinch hit the red hot Damon there, Ensberg is still on the bench and could play 1b no?
Oh well…Let’s go MO!!!!
1st and 2nd again, 1 out, 0 runs…anyone surprised?
Bet was robbed twice tonight, he’s batting better w/ the glasses but the stats won’t show it
Cashman has tried the lefty specialist but none have panned out. Myers stunk, where the heck is Traber? but really is a lefty specialist necessary? I agree with Cashman when he said an effective righty is just as good as a lefty “specialist”.
Was Patterson the guy who didn’t cede a run all of ST, who Hawkins nursed through the disappointment of not making the ML roster?
Wasn’t there some glaring vulnerability Patterson posessed that made the Yankees leery about him?
I vaguely recall reservations about him because he was more a trickster people feared wouldn’t be able to deceive major league hitter a few times through the order. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Let’s Go Mo!!!!
does anyone think betemit could be a hidden gem for us if he stopped batting right handed became a permanent left handed dh?
I think he could be dominant from the left side and could be a potent bat as long as he doesnt play in the field.
SJ, you at the Sranton game tonight? Or the past 2 months? So, you use Chad Jennings reports as your own insight. No shame in that.
When do the Yanks cut Beatimet and Duncan?
“Basically, from all the numbers and stats, Edwar is dominant vs lefty’s this year. Leading off was Morneau who is lefty. Edwar threw 5 pitches. Why wasn’t he out there getting one out before going to Farnsworth?”
Because Farnsworth is a “veteran” and can throw 97 mph. And Girardi caught him when they were with the Cubs.
Those are the only reasons why. There is very little credible evidence to otherwise just hand Farnsworth the role of throwing high leverage innings. None.
Ramirez has been much, much better against lefties.
Farnsworth’s numbers this year against lefties are truly abysmal:
Lefties are hitting .364 against Farnsy with a .450 OBP.
Lefites have an astonishing .697 slugging percentage against farnsworth with a 1.147 OPS.
Lefties are hitting .174 with a .217 slugging percentage against Ramiirez.
So lefthanded hitters are hitting for around 320% more power against Farnsworth than they are against Ramirez.
320%. Yet Farnsworth comes into the game and has been handed the 8th inning role.
He’s a veteran. He throws hard. It has little to do with performance.
obviously we have a logjam at the dh spot im just saying
Wasn’t there some glaring vulnerability Patterson posessed that made the Yankees leery about him?
The liability of NOT GIVING UP RUNS.
Can’t believe the Yanks have 16 hits today yet only 6 runs. Not sure who is most to blame, but Jeter could probably use a day off.
one out
“No one is worse in picking pitchers than Cashman.”
So true, maybe he has also realized this…turned out well if it’s forcing him to stick with our youngsters.
“ps – i hate betemit too.”
that was a LD to CF and Gomez had to bust it to catch it com’on…see what I mean, not even when Shelley K’s we see this type of criticism.
is the radar gun off? Mo’s fastball is coming in at only 93?? Isn’t he usually at 95-96?
mo
6 DH’s, no glove at 1b, no backup ss-2b, no lefty, no speed.
Great roster construction.
There’s nothing more reassuring than coming home from dinner and seeing Mo on the field!
anyone listening to the Twins broadcast?? They keep saying Mariano has this “little cutter” like he’s some scrub that we’re trying to piece together outs with
We have a log jam at first and one at DH. At least one of the 1B needs to go to increase roster flexibility.
bs that was a great pitch
THAT WAS A STRIKE !
“Lefties are hitting .364 against Farnsy with a .450 OBP.
Lefites have an astonishing .697 slugging percentage against farnsworth with a 1.147 OPS.”
ASTONISHING is exactly the right word. WTF?
Those are awful numbers.
gees Mo walk the 9th guy
stupid blind ump
that was a strike
That’s just ridiculous! The 1-2 and 3-2 pitches were strike 3.
The 3-2 pitch wasn’t even a question it was Strike 3.
Unreal. Jerry Miele is just an awful HP umpire.
watch out w/ Gomez he has a way of calming himself in pressure
Not much margin for error here…thanks Kyle…
Let’s go Mo!!!!
lets go orioles
“Jeff NJ May 30th, 2008 at 11:09 pm
Can’t believe the Yanks have 16 hits today yet only 6 runs. Not sure who is most to blame, but Jeter could probably use a day off.”
Betemit. Left 6 on base.
Yeah, the “little cutter” thing is annoying.
Old buddy Timlin is in to pitch for the Sox.
shouldn’t walk the 9th guy MO
Silly Rookie – you don’t hit the cutter!
So true, maybe he has also realized this…turned out well if it’s forcing him to stick with our youngsters.
Luckily he defers to Oppenheimer and the scouts on those. I think we are all done with the Farnsworths, Pavanos, Igawas, heredia’s, Karsays, Hammonds, Quantrills, shoot me
The head of the lollipop guild just grounded out to end the frame. Still tied in Baltimore.
Yeah, that ball 4 was clearly a strike. Mo is so laid back but in some situations you’d like to see him let the umpire know he made a mistake.
the tribe
Looks like Veras was more like Rivera than we thought….
He called it a “little cutter” again. Jerk.
Oh, and he only throws cutters!
One Mo Time!!!
2 outs
Brandon (supporting “Alex being Alex”) (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 )
May 30th, 2008 at 11:10 pm
“ps – i hate betemit too.â€
that was a LD to CF and Gomez had to bust it to catch it com’on…see what I mean, not even when Shelley K’s we see this type of criticism.
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I’m GameDaying it so I don’t see those kinds of details. But that aside, Betemit is not a player I think all that highly of anyway.
Young guys don’t stand a chance vs Mo.
The Indians win
TK,
Do you see now why I’m willing to give Veras a shot? If he’s bad send him down and bring up the next guy.
We know very well what farnsworth is.
“Betemit. Left 6 on base.”
on 2 line shots what’s your point.
Why can’t we beat the Indians?
Mora K’s
ESO EH CONO !
“Wasn’t there some glaring vulnerability Patterson posessed that made the Yankees leery about him?”
Patterson didn’t give up a run all spring. He didn’t make the team because he never pitched above AA.
Basically they said that Patterson didn’t have enought “experience.”
Mo cures a lot of a bad pens problems.
wow – that “little cutter” is pretty good apparently
Beauty. I’m really glad I made it home in time to see that.
Mo, I love you. That is all.
CB –
I think you’re sharp as a tack – but Veras spit the bit tonight too!
mo is unbelievable… i havent looked at the numbers but is this his best year ever… he has been absolutely amazing
MOthe Yankees win
Brandon (supporting “Alex being Alex”) (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 )
May 30th, 2008 at 11:14 pm
“Betemit. Left 6 on base.â€
on 2 line shots what’s your point.
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My guess would be that he left 6 men on base?
Mo em down
Mm. Big Monroe can’t hit the little cutter.
markakis 1 out double
Good job Yankees. Back to .500. 8th inning not a big deal. Wang tomorrow 1t 7PM. Bal threatening Bos. All is well.
woohoo, nice way to start the weekend!
who would have thought that the Moose would be leading the pitching staff in wins? you just never know in baseball.
Game over. Nice job by Mo.
Now the Yanks need to get above .500 and stay there
I hope we all realize how LUCKY we’ve been to witness the career of the GREATEST RELIEF PITCHER OF ALL TIME…Mo is $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Mo is simply automatic this year… Freakin’ nuts.
YANKS WIN!!!
Celtics
grrrrrrrrr
Thank god for Mo!
Mo really makes a good start to the weekend. You should thank him, Kyle.
Who had Moose leading the team in wins this yr in the pool???
com’on Millar
Should we send Giambi to BAL to bat against Timlin?
Ballgame, great win, lots of missed opportunities, but still a great win!
Timlin is in for the sox
needless to say there’s 2 guys on and one out
And Lee’s era rises to a mammoth 1.88. Ugh, how dare he.
….yea, I can’t type that with a straight face.
In other news, Mo’s brought his down to 0.38
Mo = GOAT
Greatest
OF
All
Time
It isn’t really close.
“Unreal. Jerry Miele is just an awful HP umpire.”
He’s not very good anywhere else, either. Wasn’t he behind that awful stolen base call against the Mariners last year, where the runner was out by two feet and was called safe?
Nice day for me so far. Also nice to see the BoSox having to eat into their pen.
timlin is bad enough where he should be able to lose the game without giambi … but then it is baltimore…
Millar doesn’t run out a ball, which would have given the O’s bases loaded, 1 out. Geez, why can’t he play like a dog against the Yankees.
They are now intentionally walking another hitter to make it bases loaded, 2 outs.
“Timlin is in for the sox”
Isn’t that pretty much automatic defeat?
How come Millar doesn’t make those mistakes when he plays the Yankees?
w00t!! Long live the GOAT!!!
Nice win…very solid job by Mussina, greatness by MO and Edwar, the only blemish pitchingwise was Krazy Kyle but I will say it’s an improvement for him not to follow the homer up with a 4 pitch walk followed by a single, then a K then a double. But just because he appears to be out of his REALLY dark days doesn’t mean I like him in the 8th. At the very least mix and match him and Edwar to keep opponents guessing, as someone said before.
Great to see A-Rod heating up too!!!
basesloaded 2 outs for Ramon Hernandez
“This inning was a perfect example of why Joba should be in the rotation.”
DFox made a perfect point before about this game and how important the vaunted 8th inning is.
They had a 2 run lead in the 7th – Veras doesn’t pitch particularly well. Farnsworth stinks.
But magically they win the game anyway.
With a 2 run lead in the 7th the overwhelming probability is that you are going to win the game – even with just major league average or sightly worse relievers.
There just aren’t that many outs left in the game for the opposition to score.
That’s why the most important part of winning is getting the lead going into the seventh rather than “protecting” that lead.
i think mike timlin is the greatest reliever of all time from the yankees perspective as he is about to implode once again. (arthur rhodes close second)
wow what an idiot kevin millar doesnt run out the ground ball the lugo botches wouldve been bases loaded 1 out now we got bases loaded two outs after the intentional walk.
cowboy down you bum
No one will ever approach Mo. No one. Not Papelbon, not Nathan. No. One.
“How come Millar doesn’t make those mistakes when he plays the Yankees?”
He plays for the Orioles. :\
Eric Gagne was also very good for the Sox. Can’t forget him.
Ugh, Lakers vs. Celtics.
Root for a blimp accident?
Yes, that’s just a joke.
I believe with this in we officilly can say goodbye to the Anti Mussina yes. Didnt he say if Moose won 8 games this year he would not be back??
Very happy with this win tonight saw somethings you dont want to see ie Duncan struggle both defensively and at the plate (Scranton may be in his future), Veras pitch like he did. But some things that you are very happy to see: Moose not melt down after the first, Melky get 3 hits from the right side, Bobby and Arod getting hot together, Ramirez again keeps his 0.00 era
im guessing wild pitch os win
ramon – you poop head
Apparently, BAL only gets up for playing us. Typical.
damnnnn
Timlin worked out of it somehow. Means another inning for both bullpens. Not that I mind that too much. I just want to see Baltimore take it.
unbelieveable how do they let Timlin get out of that.
“My guess would be that he left 6 men on base?”
And Brandon’s point was there wasn’t all that much more he could do. He had two well-hit balls, one just happened to be right at someone and the other got run down by a CFer with TREMENDOUS range.
Great post CB. Someone e-mail that into M&tMD so they shut their air holes. I can’t wait until the day Mike admits he was wrong on that one and team is better with Joba in the rotation.
I seriously think Millar shoots steroids only before games vs the Yankees. That way he doesnt do them enough to come up dirty on drug tests and he can be known as a “Yankee killer,” since as a terrible baseball player thats the only kind of recognition that he could ever hope to get….via steroids. lol.
“Eric Gagne was also very good for the Sox. Can’t forget him.”
It’s not that hard to, considering he didn’t ruin their run for a title. He tried as hard as he could to, though. As hard as he could.
I had to leave since it appears Pete and I are the only ones on this blog with primary sector jobs.
However, it was good to see that leftie/rightie platoon at 1st base worked out so well so Damon could get two off days in a row.
As for this post
“SJ44
May 30th, 2008 at 7:59 pm
Whozat,
Forget using logic. Anybody who truly believes they can pick the outcome of games with extreme accuracy ain’t gonna get the concept of why Damon is sitting.
I’m sure he also knew the Yankees were going to hammer Bedard the other day. Ironically, a game in which Duncan hit a 3 run HR.”
First, I never said you can pick a game with “extreme accuracy”. What I said was you to believe that there was a strong probability that Bedard would outpitch Wakefield (if you are arguing that Wakefield is better than Bedard you are on crack), that there was a probability that Felix would beat Colon and that the only reason the M’s won the second game of that series was because Dice-K got hurt and had to leave in the 4th inning.
Shelly hit a homer because there was a pitch that was johnson high over the plate- good pitchers get shelled from time to time, that is why they have these things called “averages”, like earned run averages and batting averages.
But, yes, overall you can pick who will win games with a fair amount of accuracy. Good teams beat bad teams.
You know who else employees this mystical use of numbers and logic? Bookies, and they make a fairly good living off of doing it. However, if you want to believe a game of baseball is based upon random chance, then go down to Atlantic City and randomly pick teams at the sports book to see how you do.
Maybe I’m a moron and I just can’t grasp why you would sit a guy who is hitting over .300 against lefties this season and play a guy who is hitting .143 the past month, please let me know. Particularly when the guy hitting .300 against lefties had a day off the night before and can DH tomorrow.
Sorry I have a hard time figuring out these hard concepts- I guess all those post-doctorate degrees must have made my mind into mush.
too bad the celts win damn
I have a feeling sux will score this inning
Confucius
May 30th, 2008 at 11:21 pm
“How come Millar doesn’t make those mistakes when he plays the Yankees?â€
He plays for the Orioles. :\
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yes he does, but I think the poster is asking why Millar plays better AGAINST the Yankees than he does AGAINST the Sawx…
I’ve got to root for the Lakers…even if they did beat the Jazz. I guess since my boy roots for them, I can take it for this round. No way do I root for the Celitcs.
Walker’s in to pitch for the O’s. Hope he’s up for it.
Timlin got out of it? Oh Baltimore. **shaking my head**
Dan,
That was Gerry Davis who blew that play with Bloomquist against the Yankees last year.
O’s come up empty. Millar cost them a chance to win the game.
Timlin would have had to face Luke Scott with the bases loaded and 1 out.
Instead, 2 outs, they intentionally walk Scott to pitch to Hernandez and he flies out.
What a stupid play by Millar.
Alright I have a minor concession to make. I think if we are looking at a one-run lead in late innings, since Kyle’s Achille’s heel seems to be the long ball, we are best off with Edwar or someone else. More than one run, I feel okay with Kyle.
GO ORIOLES!
Ugh, F the O’s with a sharp and painful object. Of course those pansies have to lay down for the sux. Hopefully Timlin will pitch the next inning tho
Great game
-beat the LHP with Mooose
-saw 3 of their relievers, all pitched at or near 20 pitches
-no more LH starters for Minne
-Abreu was sick
Wang and Metrodome don’t seem to fit perfectly, but he’s throwing more sliders this year, less GB stuff. Let’s get back on track as well as Jeter- enough time off!
Millar dogs it to first base when Lugo bobbles the ball and can’t beat the throw. That fly ball from Hernandez would have give the O’s the lead. I hate Millar. Always have. Always will.
I want to see Mariano win the Cy Young this year.
I really hope he wins it.
Moose has got to be the luckiest pitcher in the majors to get those AL-leading 8 wins with a 4-plus ERA (not to mention all the numerous unearned runs). The bullpen hasn’t blown a game for him all year, and he’s one of the few Yankee starters getting consistent run support. Hope his good karma continues all year.
oh god orioles are letting this get away droppping pop ups
ramon – you are a BIG poop head
I see that as it is when the Yankees come to town, the crowd in BAL is rooting for the visiting team.
8 wins for Mussina.
Wow
Hernandez is hurting the O’s now. He let Timlin get out of the inning and then he drops an Ortiz pop-up. At least he grounded out after that.
Nice win for the Yanks
BTW – I totally think that Britton is in Girardi’s dog house because he’s not in shape. Obviously Girardi is a stickler for fitness and Britton is anything but.
it’s funny that we are all rooting to stay in last place
if the sox win, we’re in last place by a half a game – obviously we are going to be fighting with the sox in the end (maybe even the rays) but it’s still very rare that you’re rooting for last place
the only sports team i could root for that a sux fan is rooting for is team usa lol go lakers
whozat
May 30th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
“My guess would be that he left 6 men on base?â€
And Brandon’s point was there wasn’t all that much more he could do. He had two well-hit balls, one just happened to be right at someone and the other got run down by a CFer with TREMENDOUS range.
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Perhaps, but a ball hit at someone is still an out, whether it’s hit by Betemit, Giambi, or Arod. And Betemit seems to have a knack for hitting at people. Even people with TREMENDOUS range.
Mo @ AGE 38:
M Rivera 1 1 0.33 23 14 14 24.0 11 1 1 2 23
(1-1, 0.39, 14/14 saves, 24 IP, 11 H, 1 1 ER, 2 BB 23 K)
SIMPLY AMAZING
“yes he does, but I think the poster is asking why Millar plays better AGAINST the Yankees than he does AGAINST the Sawx…”
… he plays for the Orioles. :\
If Mariano continues his excellence then he should be the Cy Young winner. He is long overdue.
Hoping Baltimore wins, but the good thing is that if the Red Sox win, we’ll be out of last place
“You know who else employees this mystical use of numbers and logic? Bookies, and they make a fairly good living off of doing it. However, if you want to believe a game of baseball is based upon random chance, then go down to Atlantic City and randomly pick teams at the sports book to see how you do.
Maybe I’m a moron and I just can’t grasp why you would sit a guy who is hitting over .300 against lefties this season and play a guy who is hitting .143 the past month, please let me know. Particularly when the guy hitting .300 against lefties had a day off the night before and can DH tomorrow.
Sorry I have a hard time figuring out these hard concepts- I guess all those post-doctorate degrees must have made my mind into mush.”
First off, you don’t seem to understand what bookies do. Bookies do NOT set a fair line. They set a line that will maximize profits while minimizing risk to themselves. That is a big difference.
Secondly, do you think that maybe, just maybe, Damon needs the day off? Possibly?
Actually – we’re rooting for a sox loss. A last place standing is just an unfortunately side effect.
The O’s are just shooting themselves in the collective foot with plays like that.
The errors are killing the O’s. Manny gets to second on one.
Man, BAL sucks when they aren’t playing us.
unfortunate… side effect.
CB – Ditto. It still pains my soul when I think of him getting robbed of it in 2005.
Geez…the Orioles are playing like they WANT to lose this game. Dropping popups, throwing away easy plays, not running out grounders…just sad.
I’m not rooting for LA or Boston if I had to choose, I’d take KG because of the yrs. he suffered w/ Marbury and McHale, I’m sorry but I can’t cheer for Kobe or Phil Jackson…plus Celtics winning the title would put more pressure on James Dolan NY will never stay quiet about that when Isiah could have traded Curry and Frye for KG and chose not to.
“the only sports team i could root for that a sux fan is rooting for is team usa lol go lakers”
“Moose has got to be the luckiest pitcher in the majors to get those AL-leading 8 wins”
Mussina hasn’t been particularly lucky. The best assessment of pitcher’s “luck” is their batting average allowed on the balls they allow in play (BABIP).
Mussina is exactly at the league average. Around 30% of all of his contact turns into a base hits.
There are many other pitchers who have been much, much luckier.
Front and center in that is Dice-K. He truly has a very “luck” 8 wins. HIs BABIP is around 70-80 points lower than league average and lower than what it was for him last year.
O’s blew this game…sux just scored after the Mora error.
You root for the Lakers, you root for The Rapist.
“Moose has got to be the luckiest pitcher in the majors to get those AL-leading 8 wins with a 4-plus ERA (not to mention all the numerous unearned runs).”
Moose deserves it. He was the best starter in 2001 but Clemens won the Cy Young because voters like wins. I don’t have stats to back it up, but it seemed like Moose’s first few years with the Yanks he had the worst run support of anyone. Clemens on the other hand lived a charmed life with the Yanks.
“Perhaps, but a ball hit at someone is still an out, whether it’s hit by Betemit, Giambi, or Arod. And Betemit seems to have a knack for hitting at people. Even people with TREMENDOUS range.”
Um, that sounds very dumb. No offense
That’s called ‘bad luck’. Eventually, just like Giambi, those ‘right at peoples’ become hits.
if you’re having that much difficulty understanding a simple explanation Confucius, not much I can do for ya.
V,
He misses the point and has all night. Girardi said he doesn’t want Damon to play 4 straight games on turf. They sat him to save his legs.
It isn’t about betting lines, probability or anything else.
He doesn’t want to play a guy with a history of leg and back injuries after he plays a lot on turf, who is also nursing a sore groin, 4 straight days on turf.
The O’s better be alive for the bottom of the 13th.
good job you hanging chad
RustyJ –
“I had to leave since it appears Pete and I are the only ones on this blog with primary sector jobs.”
Since no one in the history of mankind has used the term ‘primary sector’ before you, I have to agree.
Thank you for visiting our benighted realm, RJ. Via con Dios.
Prediction:
Moose wins 20 games this year!!!!
O’s are falling apart
Who is this RustyJohn character? Why is he so sentsitive?
As far as the East finals, as a HUGE Detroit hater I certainly can’t be mad that the Pissedons lost. Ladies and gentlemen, presenting the bridesmaids of the Eastern Conference, the Atlanta Pistons…uhhh I mean the Detroit Braves…buahahaha. PWNED!!!!
I hate the Lakers too so I have no choice but to pull for the Celtics in the Finals. I feel so dirty lol…but at least they have my man Posey.
anyway, very nice win for the Yanks tonight, let’s keep it goin tomorrow!!!
Melvin Mora is an idiot.
Right V, but Betemit seems to bathe in “Bad Luck”
“Front and center in that is Dice-K. He truly has a very “luck†8 wins. HIs BABIP is around 70-80 points lower than league average and lower than what it was for him last year.”
FYI – by Dice-K’s peripherals (K rate, BB rate, Groundout rate), the Baseball Prospectus ‘Quick ERA’ (a regression formula to predict future ERA) has Dice-K at a 5.3 QERA last time I checked.
When he comes off the DL, I am -so- trading him from my fantasy team for the best value I can get
“Moose has got to be the luckiest pitcher in the majors to get those AL-leading 8 wins with a 4-plus ERA (not to mention all the numerous unearned runs).”
Lucky to be at 8 wins? Yeah, ok. Lucky to be winning ballgames? I don’t think so. After throwing 30+ pitches in the first, he comes back and goes 5 more without giving up any more runs. That’s because he’s still got enough to get outs. Not 5 in an inning. he’s just not that kind of pitcher where you can blow two plays behind him and he can strike out the side. Way I saw it, he DID pick duncan up. He got a grounder to third and ARod just missed it.
chad brad got no outs… good work…
I’m about ready to pluck those birds if they don’t shape up. They have looked terrible this inning: 2 errors?
What the heck is a primary sector job?
*having vague recollections of 8th grade economics*
BJ Ryan raises a philosophical question as NY fans – the rapist vs. a boston team
sorry ladies, I choose the rapist
“if you’re having that much difficulty understanding a simple explanation Confucius, not much I can do for ya.”
Confucius say man who not understand find it easier to believe other man not understand. No one want to believe own stupidity.
Confucius point out that Millar play better against Yankee than Red Sock BECAUSE he is Oriole. Oriole play better against Yankee than Red Sock. So Millar fitting in with team.
Confucius say understanding never unattainable. Confucius glad that he could help you achieve understanding.
BJ Ryan pulled a fallacious question, more like. It’s not an either/or choice. You can root for the Lakers in the finals without choosing a specific player to root for. He acts like Kobe is the only one on the team.
Just stay away from the secondary sector. It’s a little alliterative but it’s seriously sad.
Joe T -
Any rapist vs. a boston team.
Gotta be the rapist.
Moose may have been lucky this year, but’s been exceeedingly unlucky in previous years, such as 2001.
His peripherals are very good. Solid WHIP. At this stage of his career, he’s basically Paul Byrd with more polish. He can get hit hard, but he doesn’t walk anyone.
“Right V, but Betemit seems to bathe in “Bad Luck—
Upon what are you basing this? Is his BABiP really low? because then you’d be right, and he’d be unlucky.
First off, I’m asian, so you’re little asian rant is offensive and I’d thank you to knock it the hell off.
Second, that’s the dumbest reason I’ve ever heard.
I don’t think the question is whether Rivera would win the Cy Young if he had numbers like these at the end of the season, rather the question is can he keep this up? I say that for a number of reasons. How can they not give the Cy Young to a guy with a .4 era (again, the question is can he maintain it) and using a proportion, with 42 saves, ESPECIALLY when there’s no AL pitcher who has strictly dominated.
Someone needs to beam RustyJ up to the mothership so he can pursue his primary sector responsibilities.
Then he can marry Sulu later this year.
“Mussina hasn’t been particularly lucky. The best assessment of pitcher’s “luck†is their batting average allowed on the balls they allow in play (BABIP).”
Ah, I’m not that scientific. There have been a couple of games this year where he left the game trailing or tied and the Yankees score to give him the lead the next half inning, which is pretty fortunate. Good for him though.
“Moose deserves it. He was the best starter in 2001 but Clemens won the Cy Young because voters like wins.”
Oh ITA. I was just thinking it’s a reversal of fortune for him this year, he had the better numbers in every category in 2001 than Clemens except wins, and now this year Wang has him beat in every category except wins. Hey, maybe Moose can win those 20 this year. Stranger things have happened.
“that’s the dumbest reason I’ve ever heard.”
Confucius proven right again.
Moose lucky?! That’s a laugh, what about the low run support with which he has been plagued throughout his career, the constant errors made behind him, and so on? If anything he’s remarkably unlucky
I was out tonight and missed most of the game. Caught the last two innings on the radio. John Sterling kept talking about how bad the Yankees base running was and how they should have had more runs. Suzyn kept complaining about Kyle and his tendency to give up homeruns. But they won and that’s what matters in the end.
Time to see if there’s a rerun of Keeping Up with the Kardashians.
Night all.
Ugh… another big E for the O’s. I’m calling it a night (baseball wise) and playing GTA 4. Its been fun. ‘Night!
ANOTHER error? Unbelievable. Now it looks like it will be impossible for the O’s to come back.
steph – Kobe is the only player on the team!!
actually they might as well just play 3 on 3 – Allen, Pierce, and KG vs. Kobe, Pao, and Odom
whoop – sox win… oh well
“That was Gerry Davis who blew that play with Bloomquist against the Yankees last year.”
Ah, picked the wrong Jerry/Gerry.
Anyway, I think the 2003 team is a good example of how good starting pitching is much more important than good middle relief.
That pen was a mess for most of the season. Rivera missed most/all of April, and they had Juan Acevedo closing out games. When Mo got back, he was pretty much the only dependable guy in there. The team was holding auditions for the 7th/8th-inning relief roles for practically the entire season. In the post-season, they gave the job to Jose Contreras, because no one else was getting it done.
That team won 100 games and the AL Pennant largely on the strength of the starters, the offense, and Mo.
another Orioles error btw…5-2 sux.
Captain Kirk- the Orioles manager – is NOT pleased. Beam me up, Scottie
3 errors in an inning – way to pony up that game, O’s
Wow, it’s refreshing to watch a team that can actually get a clutch hit in extra innings and win on the road!
if you say so confusion
Well, I think I’ll look occasionally at the O’s game, but I’m going to stick to watching the Fullerton game now.
I’m dying to go for a run now, though. I might go out and shoot some hoops.
Honestly, Red Sox fans don’t care about the other Boston teams. Why should we? Let the Celtics win the next 100 titles. If it means the Red Sox don’t win any, I’m ok with it.
The Sox haven’t gotten a clutch hit. They’ve gotten clutch errors.
you mean clutch errors – O’s gave the game away
“I’m fairly sure Chris Britton kidnapped Girardi’s dog.”
Hahahhaa Pete nice.
Brett Gardner was 2 for 4 w/ a 2B, BB, SB
WHEN GOD MADE INCONSISTANT HIS MIDDLE NAME WAS
Eric Duncan 3 for 5 2B, HR, 3 RBI, 3 R
what is this guy’s problem
Haha. Nick always makes me laugh.
I go to bed thinking that I know somehow what a primary sector job is, but not being really sure if thats really the case.
Confucius
May 30th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Honestly, Red Sox fans don’t care about the other Boston teams. Why should we? Let the Celtics win the next 100 titles. If it means the Red Sox don’t win any, I’m ok with it.
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THIS I aree with 100%
agree with… one handed typing doesn’t work at midnight
daver –
Have you ever heard Trembley give a news conference? He is wound up tighter than Belicheat, but without the personality.
The guy has exactly 2 years in him, starting from middle of last year, before the players mutiny.
“John Sterling kept talking about how bad the Yankees base running was and how they should have had more runs.”
I only saw the ARod thing with the baserunning, and melky slide into first for no reason. What else did they do? Bad baserunning is the kind of error that I find unacceptable. It’s a mental lapse, and THAT is totally preventable. Like Millar not running out that grounder and costing his team the game. Jerk. But, anyway…back to the Yanks.
I dunno if ARod getting doubled off was a bad baserunning play, he was trying to steal and it just got hit right at someone. Those things happen. So what were these other gaffes?
“Wow, it’s refreshing to watch a team that can actually get a clutch hit in extra innings and win on the road!”
Yeah, that thrilling effort in Seattle was really refreshing.
What are the M’s losing tonight, their 35th or 36th game?
Looks like the lucky leprauchan left Detroit and stopped off in Baltimore.
I like Leon Powe, I guess that means I have to root for the Celtics? I’m going to be sick.
Papelbon in the 13th inning is it that bad ?
” trisha –
May 30th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
Joe T -
Any rapist vs. a boston team.
Gotta be the rapist. ”
Even a woman is rooting for the (and any) rapist. This is becoming disturbing.
Paul Pierce, “As a kid growing up, I hated the Celtics”.
Well, silver lining if Boston wins, we climb out of the cellar.
I’d rather gain a game on Boston, but it really doesn’t matter much. So yeah, good to get out of last place. Hopefully for the last time.
Whozat – As I said I didn’t see or hear any of the game until the 8th inning. Sterling kept saying that the Yanks made base running mistakes and mental errors and ran themselves out of innings and should have had a lot more runs. He never cited any examples or named any names.
Hey, I think I’m going to be at Joba’s second start! He goes tuesday and then sunday, right?
“Whozat – As I said I didn’t see or hear any of the game until the 8th inning. Sterling kept saying that the Yanks made base running mistakes and mental errors and ran themselves out of innings and should have had a lot more runs. He never cited any examples or named any names.”
Melky got picked off, Molina got doubled off on a line drive to second, A-rod got doubled off second on a fly ball. I think that was it
whozat — ARod was on a hit and run and got doubled off
“Melky got picked off, Molina got doubled off on a line drive to second, A-rod got doubled off second on a fly ball. I think that was it”
That sounds like more than enough. Glad that none of the mistakes cost them the game.
Watching SportsCenter now. I gotta say I don’t hate these Celtics. They’re humble. They have a winning attitude. They’re team oriented. They remind me of… the Yankees.
Fran,
Boxscore shows 16 hits, Team LOB (9)
“Watching SportsCenter now. I gotta say I don’t hate these Celtics. They’re humble. They have a winning attitude. They’re team oriented. They remind me of… the Yankees.”
- What Yankees?
you have to feel pretty good about the way this team is playing..
even the games we lost recently in Balt. we should have fun (bad bullpen outings).
“whozat — ARod was on a hit and run and got doubled off”
I have a theory but Alex not running out the = him concentrating on hitting more and not expanding his zone, he seriously showed a different him tonight, RISP and off Glen Perkins who has been quite good , would you ever think w/ Perkin’s change up/94 mph fastball that Alex would hit him HARD…IDK that is a theory I have right now. It just looked like Alex was calm not thinking about busting it out the box so now he’s paying more attention to the SP’s delivery and I hope I get this right scalding the ball.
jeter needs a few days off.. he hasnt had a hit in forever and is definitely hurting..
dammit
“It just looked like Alex was calm not thinking about busting it out the box so now he’s paying more attention to the SP’s delivery and I hope I get this right scalding the ball.”
Seriously? you think that he’s been unable to focus on hitting well because he’s not thinking about running hard to first base? He’s run hard to first base his whole career. And hit well his whole career. If anything, he’d have to be thinking about NOT running hard to first base. So he’d be more distracted.
Sometimes things are just coincidence. It’s not like ARod’s never hit good pitching. He’s arguably the most talented hitter in baseball. He goes through slumps sometimes, like everyone, but when he’s hitting well he’ll hit anybody.
“jeter needs a few days off.. he hasnt had a hit in forever and is definitely hurting..”
Ah, but when JETER stays in the lineup despite it being bad for the team, he’s a leader. When anyone else does it, they’re selfish.
“The Joba Plan has but one flaw, of course.”
Yes, but that one flaw – Farnsworth in the setup role — is a devastating flaw that should make it obvious to all that Joba needs to stay in the pen this season. Moving Joba to the rotation is going to lead to a large number of crushing late-inning losses for the Yanks.
The Joba plan is a terrible, terrible mistake. Everyone will realize this soon enough.
whozat I said it was just a theory, just look at lazy Manny…
These Yankees…
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....e?team=nyy
SF Giants just got a triple play, if you’re scoring at home!
If you think harder and try to make more sense, then maybe you can get a Moose call. Now, no.
“Moving Joba to the rotation is going to lead to a large number of crushing late-inning losses for the Yanks.”
This is of course the risk that Yankee brass have decided to take…
I don’t like it either, but hopefully it works out…
But, if Joba pitches well as a starter and he very well might and someone like Edwar Ramirez provides a fix in the 8th, who knows?
It just might work after all…
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
As someone who has worked in a rape crisis center, and has seen lives destroyed, I do not find these comments funny. At all.