Game 55: Yankees at Twins
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YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Molina C
Cabrera CF
Wang RHP
Chien-Ming Wang (6-2, 3.82) against the Minnesota hitters.
Boof Bonser (2-6, 6.16) against the New York hitters.
Notes: Matsui is 17 of his last 31 with 13 runs scored and leads the AL at .339. … Cano is 2 of his last 19 and is down to .219.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 5:48 p.m.: Girardi said the Yankees would be calling up a long reliever before Tuesday’s game. Jeff Kartstens? He’s on the roster. … Jorge Posada got through his game without any problem today. Look for him back with the Yankees on Thursday. He will rest today, play back-to-back extended games on Monday and Tuesday, rest Wednesday then play against Toronto on Thursday. … Harlan Chamberlain is at the game. … Kevin Long is growing a mustache in solidarity with The Big G.
UPDATE, 6:05 p.m.: Here’s AP on Posada:
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — Jorge Posada passed a key test in his rehab program for a sore right shoulder and could rejoin the Yankees as early as Wednesday.
New York’s catcher made two strong throws to second base in an extended spring training game Saturday, the first day he was allowed to throw to the bases in a game since being sidelined on April 27.
“The second one was better than the first one,” Posada said. “It felt good throwing the ball. I’m happy with it. I’m happy the way I felt.”
Posada will likely play in extended spring games Monday and Tuesday, and could rejoin the Yankees after that.
“A day off (Sunday) and play again Monday,” Posada said. “We’ll see how it feels Monday. Probably another game Tuesday. Get back Wednesday or Thursday.”
Posada went 2-for-4, including a single and a two-run double, and caught five innings in the game against Tampa Bay minor leaguers. The five-time All-Star is 8-for-22 with four walks in five extended spring games overall.
UPDATE, 6:37 p.m.: Maybe somebody put LSD in my Diet Coke. But I think there are several hundred little girls dressed as pirate cheerleaders in right field. I’m not sure what they’re going to do. Hopefully not attack the pressbox.
UPDATE, 6:41 p.m.: Yeah, they’re pirate cheerleaders and now they’re dancing to assorted pirate songs. It’s kind of frightening. There are at least 150 of them.
UPDATE, 6:52 p.m.: Well, the pirate cheerleaders are gone. But now they’re having a softball home run derby behind second base with a local radio DJ, two of the Vikings and the Twins mascot, TC The Bear.
The first batter drilled the pitcher in the crotch with a line drive. He got his glove up just in time.
Now TC The Bear is hitting rockets.
UPDATE, 6:56 p.m.: The guy in the bear suit won the softball home run derby. This is the greatest pre-game show I’ve ever seen. I call on the Yankees to have a guy in a bear suit try and hit home runs from behind second base.
UPDATE, 8:03 p.m.: Boof Bonser is bopping along, walks Johnny Damon on a close pitch, there’s an error and suddenly the Yankees score three runs.
Meanwhile, I probably should have mentioned this before, but Chien-Ming Wang has gone four starts without a win for the first time in his career. His previous long had been three.
UPDATE, 8:15 p.m.: Another bad start for Wang so far. The Yanks give him the lead and he walks the leadoff batter ahead of Mauer and Morneau. Can’t do that.
UPDATE, 8:36 p.m.: Wang has walked Alexi Casilla three times. This is the first time he has ever faced him.
Considering he has put nine runners on base in four innings, Wang is lucky to have only allowed three runs.
UPDATE, 8:44 p.m.: It appears Jeff Karstens is headed to the majors. He was lifted after four innings in his start for Scranton tonight (4 6 2 2 2 2).
UPDATE, 9:03 p.m.: OK, leadoff walk for Matsui. Here is Giambi. He has scalded the ball twice (or “lathered it” as he says) and is 0 for 2. Let’s see what happens.
UPDATE, 9:10 p.m.: And he gets a base hit after crushing 3 balls foul.
UPDATE, 9:23 p.m.: Alas, poor Boof. Jose Molina has 24 hits this season and 11 of them are doubles. That would seem to defy the laws of nature. His career best for two-baggers is 17.
Meanwhile, CMW has a chance to skate off the turf with a win. How they get through these last few innings should be interesting. Can Girardi really run Farnsworth out there again?
UPDATE, 9:29 p.m.: Man, bad job by CMW.
UPDATE, 9:43 p.m.: TC The Bear is next to the press box posing for photos with a group of beauty pagent winners. It’s Miss Teen South Dakota and her court.
I just pray that the Big G is kept away from these girls. The Midwest isn’t ready for that.
UPDATE, 9:55 p.m.: Edwar Ramirez had gone 15.2 innings without allowing a run. So much for that. Now it’s 6-6 and in the hands of the respective bullpens.
UPDATE, 10:00 p.m.: I really don’t see the attraction of Jose Veras. I get that he throws hard. But what else does he do?
Chris Britton still has Girardi’s dog at gunpoint apparently. He has a good job. He gets to stay in nice hotels, eat the free food and he never has to actually pitch.
UPDATE, 10:38 p.m.: Not so fast on Jeff Karstens. Chad Jennings reports that Karstens left the game tonight because he felt tightness in the groin muscle that he popped in spring training.
So the long man on Tuesday will be … Dan Giese? Not the K-Man. No, it’s can’t be.
Ross Ohlendorf warming up. Chris Britton has climbed to the top of the dome with a rifle.
UPDATE, 10:44 p.m.: Why didn’t A-Rod slap the ball out of Punto’s glove? That works every time.
Bad, bad baseball there. The Yankees have run the bases like Ray Charles for two days.
UPDATE, 10:58 p.m.: They literally dodged a bullet there as Lamb missed a homer by a few feet. Ohlendorf struck out the side. Big spot for him.
The Yankees have lost seven straight extra-inning games on the road by the way.
UPDATE, 11:12 p.m.: Nobody warming up. Ohlendorf either wins or loses it.
UPDATE, 11:13 p.m.: Ohlendorf is a groundball pitcher. That’s what he needs right now.
UPDATE, 11:21 p.m.: Ross the Boss. Two innings, two hits and two walks but he keeps the Twins down. LaTroy Hawkins warming up. Britton has left the Metrodome and is drinking back at the hotel.
UPDATE, 11:28 p.m.: Clutchy clutchiness from the Captain there. If they can’t score now they never will.
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Josh Thomson
Something has to be done with the bullpen immediately.
What the heck is taking the organization so long to test some of its young power arms in the farm system.
Girardi doesn’t even give the unproven guys on the roster a chance to show what they can do.
Neither Veras nor Britton really has had an oppportunity to demonstrate how he’d handle a pressure situation.
Veras’ lead-off walk was inexcusable but it’s the only the second walk he’s allowed thus far.
Hey, I actually get to watch Wang pitch tonight! Bonus! Now if I can only get my desktop working again and can stop abusing my company laptop…
Be nice if the yankees could give Jeter a day off but when u dont have a back up for him thats tough to do. we have 5 1st/3rd basemen
jeter has good timing on his slump, the yankees have won 7 of the last 9 while he’s been slumping horribly. i say as long as he’s healthy, ride it out, he’ll come around and when he does, look out!
The line-up in almost there.
Kill Schill –
In a previous thread, you wondered why Shawn Chacon was traded. As I remember it, Chacon was pitching poorly at the time; nothing like when we first got him from Colorado. What happened is that Chacon seemed to take his workouts less than seriously, and maybe was late to games a few times. Anyway, Torre, Mr. Calm, lit into him in the clubhouse. Soon after that, he was traded.
Thanks for reminding me about Cano, Peter. I’m going to have to make a switch on one of my fantasy teams.
“Be nice if the yankees could give Jeter a day off but when u dont have a back up for him thats tough to do.”
Don’t you trust Betemit to play SS as well as he plays 3B/1B?
sean, i wish you were in my league, iv been trying to trade for cano, but the guy wont give him up. no rush, though, i have uggla, looking to sell high (very high) there.
Hey — if anybody wants a ticket to Saturday’s game against KC, I have a Tier Box MVP section ticket, Gate 4, Section 11, Box 623, Row C, aisle seat. Turns out I probably can’t make it to the game. I was going to put it on StubHub or ebay or something, but I thought I’d offer it here first. Not looking for any profit, just to get back what I paid ($80). If interested, e-mail me at: sac_bunt00@yahoo.com
Out of everyone on the Yankees,
Jeter is probably the one you worry about the least. At least, right now.
Anyone who gets to see Jeter in BP — does he seem to have less power even in BP than in the past? Pete’s been wondering if he’s got some kind of arm injury, and it makes me wonder if his power is absent all the time, or just in game situations, but I never get to see Batting Practice.
Sorry, didn’t see the new thread…
It’s funny, all winter and spring we heard about the “new†Kyle Farnsworth.
And in the beginning of the year he did pitch better.
But as the year has gone on, Farnsworth has trended right back to all of his career performance numbers.
In many ways his performance to date has been considerably worse than it was last year.
Farnsworth is in no way having a good year anymore. That spurt where he pitched better – that was a small sample effect.
He’s ERA is now 4.44/ WHIP 1.52/ BB:9 – 3.33, K/9- 7.4. These are all numbers very much in line with his terrible performance last year and his overall poor career numbers.
However, there are three areas where Farnsworth’s performance this year is much different so far this year and much, much worse than even compared to years past.
The primary things is that he’s giving up home runs at an astonishing rate. He’s allowing 3.0 HR/ 9 innings.
That is by far the worst HR rate on the entire staff and is in all likelihood the worst home run rate in all of baseball.
If he were a starting pitcher, Farnsworth would be on a pace to give up 90-100 HR over the course of a season.
He is a complete, extreme outlier with respect to giving up home runs. The yankee’s staff average is 1 HR/ 9 innings.
And much of the reason why the yankee team HR rate is so high is because that figure o 1/9 includes farnswroth’s numbers.
So Farnsworth is giving up HRs at well over 300% higher a rate than the average yankee pitcher so far.
Last year he was giving up 1.3 HR/9innings – which was one of the league’s worst rates to begin with.
In line with the HR’s, hitters have a .607 Slugging percentage against farnsworth. Again – that is astoundingly bad. That means when hitter make contact against him they are driving it very hard. Last year his slugging pct against was a terrible .415.
And the last big thing with Farnsworth is that he’s been truly awful against left handed hitters. They have a .371 BA, .452 OBP .771 SLG % and a 1.224 OPS. Again, just amazingly bad numbers this year. He can’t pitch to lefty hitters.
Could this change? Sure. In fact, I can’t fathom a major league pitcher being this bad. But this is not simply an issue of “small samples†Farnsworth has already thrown 24 innings this year. He hasn’t thrown more than 67 innings over hte past 4 years. So he’s likely over 1/3 his total innings allotment this year already. 1/3 is not a “small sample.â€
The main thing Farnsworth has been better about this year is his walks are down – 3.3/9 compared to 3.9/9 last year.
But this is one of the things which also makes me wonder – looking at all of his numbers I wonder if Farnsworth is trying harder to throw strikes and in doing so he’s just leaving the ball out over the plate more giving hitters more easy pitches to drive.
Griffey Junior is now at 599 career homers.
Thanks CB for the novel on what we all know. Farnsworth is inconsistent.
“Farnsworth is inconsistent.”
No. He’s not inconsistent. That was the point of posting those statistics. He’s very consistent – he’s just horrible.
If you look at those numbers and think he’s inconsistent then you have trouble understanding numbers.
And next time just skip my post. Won’t affect me either way.
No, Farnsy is not inconsistent. He’s been very consistent in his stay with the Yankees. If you want to blow a game, Farnsy is the one most likely to do so (next to Kei Igawa). And it does not give me any happiness to say so. I’d love Kyle (and Kei, for that matter) to pitch better. But it ain’t happening.
Wow. Griffey & Manchild are both sitting on 99th homeruns.
I think when Phil Hughes is healthy again they should stick him in the bullpen and let him straighten himself out there.
Similar to Chad Billingsley Hughes had a decent rookie year with the Yankees. He was a league average pitcher in 72 IP, Hughes WHIP was .40 better than Billingsley’s in 18 less rookie innings
Billingsley struggled at the beginning of his second season similar to Phil Hughes. The Dodgers put Billingsley in the bullpen to straighten himself out and once he did they reinserted him into the rotation where he started pitching like his old self.
Billingsley was 22 years old last year, the same age as Phil is now. I think if Phil goes to the bullpen for some time he will straighten himself out much like Billingsley did.
I know the minors and the majors aren’t the same but Phil Hughes was demonstrably better than Billingsley in the minors. His WHIP in the minors was .4 better than Billingsley’s WHIP.
I happen to believe that Phil Hughes is capable of coming back to the majors and pitching like the old Phil Hughes.
Mel,
Just so you know I was just playing around when I mentioned the Kobe thing in a previous thread. Hope you didn’t take it the wrong way.
I’m actually rooting for the Lakers in the finals. I’m a Knicks fan but no self respecting Knick fan could ever root for the Celtics to win.
raymag,
I think that’s a very promising idea with hughes. This year after he comes back from the injury and rehabs i’d like to see him spend a good chunk of time in AAA getting back into form.
But if the starters are going well (or perhaps even if they aren’t) putting him in the pen might be a very good way of transitioning to the majors.
There’s such an inordinate amount of pressure starting for the yankees transitioning younger pitchers into the rotation through the pen may be the right approach. It lets them get some innings and their confidence up against major leaguers without having to worry about getting through an order 3 times.
I also think Phil is going to establish himself as a terrific pitcher in the near future.
Mel- Griffey’s 599th was crushed off of a hanging changeup by Jurrjens. And I’m rooting for the Lakers, and if they win, they should send a shoutout to us at the trophy presentation for giving them Pau. We deserve a tiny piece of the trophy.
And yes, Farnsworth is consistent, consistently a headcase to go along with his HIGH propensity to give up the gopher ball.
leads the AL at .339?
too bad he won’t make the all star game
Heh, as a Nets fan, I don’t really care who wins the finals. I just hope it’s a good series.
CB,
I was watching the Mets/Dodgers game and seeing how the rather young Billingsley seems to have turned the corner I’m hoping the same fate is in store for Hughes.
The NY dynamic makes it tough for any rookie coming up and trying to establish themselves in the majors.
The window of opportunity is closing for Farnsworth and Hawkins as Edwar has emerged and Melancon and J.B. Cox continue to progress.
By the end of June, Cashman could be dangling both as part of bait for position players.
there are actual net fans out there??
Hughes will be fine. The guy is a baby.
They should trade Farnsy for a bag of bats if they can get it.
Player traded for bunch of bats
Deegan: Actually, there are quite a few of us.
There’s more to New Jersey than just highways, despite what you think.
raymag,
I’d like them to take this approach with Horne also. Hopefully, he’ll be back pitching in AAA this week. If he has a few good starts I’d like them to transition him to the pen and call him up.
They really need help in the pen and he’s their most talented close to major league ready arm they have. He also has the kind of fastball that may play well in the pen.
The amount of young talent they have in the minors is very impressive. Transitioning that talent to the majors while still trying to win in new york will be a real challenge.
There weren’t any page 1 columns today in the LA Times about Kershaw being overrated or a disaster because he taxed the pen yesterday after his bad outing against the mets.
Whoops!
Player traded for a bunch of bats
“Jeter is probably the one you worry about the least. At least, right now.”
because of his rep? That’s just detached from reality. His OBP is way down, his PPA is way down, and he’s not hitting. I don’t necessarily think he’s done, but he may be playing injured. His throws have been off lately, lending credence to this idea. Playing hurt is what the best do. Playing injured hurts your team and is stubborn. I think Jeter’s being stubborn and that the organization doesn’t stand up to him.
CB,
I’d like to see them put Horne in the pen as well. Looks like he’s scheduled to start Sunday, if everything works out he would hopefully be in the mix for a callup to the majors the end of June.
I’m sure that even if Kershaw has 4 bad starts in a row there’ll be very little national attention payed to it. Guess that’s the cost of playing with the Yanks.
raymagnetic
Interesting phrase….”self respecting Knicks fan”
Um….these days isn’t that a contradiction in terms?
Just yanking your chain a little, I think with a new coach the Knicks will start to improve this next year.
Whozat,
Jeter was coming along until he got hit by Cabrera. At that point I believe his OPS was .767 which isn’t great but isn’t horrible either.
He probably injured his hand much worst than he and the team let on.
There is not a one of the non-Riveras who doesn’t scare me to death. I still contend that Ollie has the best overall stuff, and I’d go with him in the seventh and Ramirez (lefties) and Farnswothless (righties) in the eighth. That is until a J.B. Cox, Melancon, et al, are ready. Ollie’s poor performance has been the product of grevious misuse due to the lack of a long man. Over one inning, he’s as capable as any of the non-Riveras. I, too, had reservations about moving Joba to the rotation due to his now being only at the team’s disposal twice a week. That, until I heard the argument that it should be easier to fine a pitcher capable of hurling one great inning as opposed to six or seven. Hopefully, that person will emerge — and soon.
So,
Mr. Smarty Pants, Tim McCarver said Clemens amassed virtually all his Cy Young awards with the Red Sox and Yankees, and compared his tenure as a Blue Jay to Wade Boggs on the then Devil Rays.
Clemens had arguably two of his best season with the Blue Jays in his two years, winning two of his seven Cy Young Awards with the team. Clemens won three with the Red Sox, two with the Yankees and one with the Astros.
Clemens was 41-13 with 563 Ks in 498 2/3 innings.
Granted, he was probably on the “H”, but still…
I don’t know how McCarver got to me. Jeesh.
Ray,
I generally don’t let it be known what my fandom is in public. That’s the only way I can continue to be self respecting.
Count me in as another who is intrigued by the possibility of Hughes in the bullpen when he comes back. Maybe he could be an eighth inning guy for a while to test out his stuff at mlb level before going back to starting.
its been a while since i’ve paid any attention to basketball but here’s my take on the finals.
the laker’s picking up chamberlain was the move of the year, but no matter what, old man russell still owns the guy. havlechek and baylor are both killer and there’s not stopping jerry west. the celts miss k.c. but that kid cheney might be able to help off the bench.
i say celts in 7.
raymagnetic
You are a good sport!
“Jeter was coming along until he got hit by Cabrera. At that point I believe his OPS was .767 which isn’t great but isn’t horrible either.”
It’s really not acceptable for someone who’s not a defensive whiz. And this is my point…I think he’s playing injured, and I think that’s stupid. And I think it’s Girardi’s job to get the trainers to find out what’s up and to tell Derek to sit his ass on the bench until he’s merely hurt.
As for Hughes in the pen…I think that, by the time he’s ready to come back, one of Moose or Rasner will have come back to earth. One of Horne, Kenney and Hughes will start for the Yanks in the 2nd half, I think. And it should be whoever’s shown the most at AAA when the move needs to be made. One of the others can perhaps come up as a reliever. Not Kennedy, though. I don’t think he’s suited to the pen.
Whozat completely agree about Giese from your previous post. To me its a no-brainer. He should have been here last month. For some reason Girardi doesn’t feel the need to carry a long man.
I don’t agree about sticking Horne or Hughes in the bullpen. I think both will be much better served starting consistently in AAA. Beisdes, I have a funny feeling the bullpen is about to get a lot better. Cox and Melancon could both be here by the end of July.
I also don’t agree how a lot of teams label a certain pitcher their “7th inning guy” or “8th inning guy”. Doesn’t any manager make moves by feel anymore? By the flow of the game? Does it always have to be by-the-book, stats based moves? If the heart of a lineup is coming up in the 7th, don’t you use your best reliever besides your closer? Or do you say, “no, he’s my 8th inning guy” and use a different less qualified pitcher?
I don’t like how they are playing Matsui after he started in left field last night. I know he’s a hot bat and all but they need to rest him so he doesn’t get worn out during the year.
Yes, SHelly is a liability at first, but they should try him at DH to get him more consistent AB’s. I don’t want to see Damon, Giambi and Matsui broken down.
Hughes in the bullpen when he comes back is an intriguing option and it could, honestly, be just what he needs.
“Doesn’t any manager make moves by feel anymore? By the flow of the game? Does it always have to be by-the-book, stats based moves?”
if you go against the book, you get crucified by the stat guys. only guys like bobby cox and ‘genius’ can get away with that anymore.
This is our best lineup without Jorge in there. I hope Girardi uses it on a somewhat consistent basis until Posada comes back.
The guys are starting to rake. Giambi and Matsui have been great in their approach to hitting recently. I hope they keep it up. A Rod is A Rod. Melky and Abreu are hitting well. Hopefully the captain isn’t hurt too bad. Either he’s hurt or he’s in a big slump.
matsui does need rest to stay on top of his game, but he is red hot and has been running very well of late. he has been great on the bases the past week and he made a nice sprinting catch last night.
he needs to be rested periodicallly, but not every other night and right now, he looks like he’s as healthy as he’s been in a couple of years. send him out there, hes our most clutch guy.
“Does it always have to be by-the-book, stats based moves?”
Actually, the ’stats based move’ WOULD be to go with your best pitcher against the heart of their lineup. Or, at least, the guy who’s done best against those hitters in the past.
Designating relief roles (Kyle’s the 8th inning guy. Period.) IS ‘by the book’, but it is NOT ’stats based’
“Yes, SHelly is a liability at first, but they should try him at DH to get him more consistent AB’s. I don’t want to see Damon, Giambi and Matsui broken down.”
If Matsui couldn’t play the field after a day off and DH the next day, he’d be a lot more fragile than he seems. If he was in the field again today and Damon was DHing or something, I might agree with you. But the way it is, I think is fine.
raymagnetic,
I thought you were serious! Good luck with D’antoni. Didn’t like him with the Suns, but that was because they kicked us around the last 2 years. He’ll be great for you guys. Run & Gun. Definitely entertaining.
J-Dawg,
If we win it, the MVP should be Chris Wallace.
Need a win tonight.
I’m hoping tonight is the last time we see the Yankees at .500 this season.
Has there been any news on Humberto Sanchez? He was supposed to be pitching in May as I recall. The silence is troubling.
Also, we got two bad breaks with Hughes and Horne going down — hopefully one or both can help this year — and the bullpen seems like a place to start.
Interesting that nobody seems to mention the possibility of trading for a competent set-up man. Who is available, at what price — or more precisely, at what specially inflated reverse-discount price for the Yanks?
You know what’s weird? By nearly every measure (most notably the won-loss record), this is a better Yankee team thus far into the season than last year…yet last year, I’m not sure we were ever in last place.
Or, if we were, it wasn’t for long.
Seeing Bowa in the Met/Dodger game makes me miss him. I loved him on Baseball Tonight and miss his interviews when he was with the Yankees because he never pulled any punches about the team.
“leads the AL at .339?
too bad he won’t make the all star game”
It is too early to say that.
With internet voting, he is likely to get lot of votes from ?apan unlike some of the people he is competing with for a spot on ASG.
Pete,
I hope it’s not Karstens because he’s not a good ML pitcher in my estimation. Also, he’s been pretty bad in his rehab starts. However, I understand the problem with the 40 man roster.
A couple of things – and forgive me if someone has addressed this already. I haven’t read the entire thread. If Jorge is coming back and we’re adding a long reliever, doesn’t that mean that two people currently on the team are getting the ax? Any thoughts as to who? My vote is send Shelley down to Scranton (love the guy, but he’s just not getting the job done) and DFA Betemit. I know some people want Engsberg gone, but I think Betemit is worse.
Also, love the idea of Hughes coming out of the bullpen. Not sure the brass would be hot for that idea, but hey – we need to do whatever is going to help us win games. So far, Hughes as a starting pitcher hasn’t done the trick.
From the previous thread, regarding using Edwar Ramirez in the 8th, whozat said:
“I figure he’s earned a shot. If they start teeing off on him, how is that any worse than what we’re getting with Kyle?â€
I agree 100%…where’s the logic in continuing to throw a guy out there, who, based on a substantial amount of recent evidence is likely to give up more home runs in the future…
Because of the nature of Farnsworth’s role, those future home runs will very likely be given up in close or tied games…
If Farnsworth continues at this rate, who knows how many close games will be lost in the 8th…
Furthermore, when you have someone who’s unreliable in that 8th inning slot, it takes away the manager’s option to use him in tough spots earlier-like the 7th inning with 2 outs but a runner in scoring position for example…
What many people forget to point out, is that a quality 8th inning reliever will sometimes be used earlier as well…but if you can’t rely on him to pitch the 8th, how can you rely on him to come in the 7th with runners on base?
Bottom line:
Ramirez in the 8th is a better bet right now…
“I know some people want Engsberg gone, but I think Betemit is worse.”
There is, literally, no evidence to support that Betemit is worse at this time than Ensberg.
“So far, Hughes as a starting pitcher hasn’t done the trick.”
He pitched for less than two month this season, and was hurt for at least part of it. He needs to start in order to get back on track. The only reason to move him to the pen would be if he was approaching some kind of innings limit.
No please anybody but Karstens. I’more then willing to lose him off the 40 man. To paraphrase Marlene Dietrich his future is in the past.
Karstens is starting for Scranton tonight. Unless he’s on a short pitch count I don’y see him getting called up. Maybe Dan Giese? Please, please, please NO Igawa!
Just out of curiosity, what do you guys think had a greater impact on the Yankees making it to the playoffs last year?
A)The addition of Roger Clemens to the starting rotation?
Or
B)The addition of Joba Chamberlain to the bullpen?
karstens mlb record 3-5, 5.65. not good enough for a long-man? not alot of aces pitching in mop-up.
I think they might still have someone they can move to the 60-day in order to add a guy to the 40-man. Not sure, though. Otherwise…DFA Igawa. Worst thing that happens is someone else takes him and his whole contract.
GIESE !!!!
I’d love to see this guy get a shot. He’s 31 years old and a career minor leaguer. I guess that’s why no one ever talks about him.
But apparently he developed a new pitch this year and has been basically lights out. Converted from reliever to starter in May.
As a long man? Why not?
“karstens mlb record 3-5, 5.65. not good enough for a long-man? not alot of aces pitching in mop-up.”
That’s not the point. The point is Giese’s been pitching great pretty much all season. There’s no earthly reason that Karstens should be ahead of him on the depth chart. I think his last outing stunk, but before that he was superlative.
Brandon-
If you are out there, Brayan Pena was DFA’d again, this time by the Royals, maybe the Yanks get him now.
“There is, literally, no evidence to support that Betemit is worse at this time than Ensberg.”
Oh, so the fact that watching him on this team annoys the heck out of me doesn’t count? Bummer!
Truthfully, both of them don’t deserve to be on the team. They bring absolutely nothing to the table. At least Ensberg can play 3B when Alex needs a spell.
“Truthfully, both of them don’t deserve to be on the team. They bring absolutely nothing to the table. ”
Bull. Betemit has legitimate left-handed power. And certainly handles 3B no worse than Morgan. Did you watch yesterday? He hit two balls really well; not really his fault they got chased down by some good OFers. Yes, he strikes out. No, he won’t hit for high average. But, he’ll take some walks and bang out some XBH. There’s a place for that guy on my bench any day.
Brandon, why are you so psyched on Brayan Pena?
Did Pena’s mother not know how to spell Bryan?
Actually I stand corrected.
Giese made 8 appearances in the majors last year, allowing 4 HRs in 9.1 innings of work. Yikes!
But he has allowed only 2 home runs all YEAR at Scranton. I still think its his turn.
“Did Pena’s mother not know how to spell Bryan?”
You mean Brian?
if they dfa igawa, i think the yankees have to pay the full contract minus whatever he signs for somewhere else (mlb minimum)
I meant Breyan.
Let’s get a win tonight. No more sloppy plays!
lol. Broxton just dropped a huge f-bomb. lucky thing there was no audio feed.
I had mentioned previously that I felt the best place for Hughes to escape the pressure from the media is into the pen for relief work, where his appearances would be less predictable and anticipated.
It would also serve to help build his confidence.
The drum role and intense scrutinizing of every start and inning he delivers from the rotation by the media is just too much pressure in my opinion for a young pitcher.
“Giese made 8 appearances in the majors last year, allowing 4 HRs in 9.1 innings of work. Yikes!”
Yah…that’s a lot. He actually junked his change this year because it sucked, and now he throws FBs and curves from several different arm angles and at several different speeds. I think it was his change that was getting hammered.
Thing I like about him is he doesn’t walk people, and he actually has good K rates for a guy without dominating stuff.
and that was before the beltran bomb. 2-2
“if they dfa igawa, i think the yankees have to pay the full contract minus whatever he signs for somewhere else (mlb minimum)”
I think I meant pass him through waivers and misspoke. He’s still on his option years, so they can just waive him to take him off the 40-man and assign him to AAA. I’m pretty sure.
“And certainly handles 3B no worse than Morgan”
I disagree. Did you see the game he played at 3B right before he got hurt? It was God awful. Morgan is no Brooks Robinson, but I think he’s better than Betemit.
That may not have anything to do with option years. I don’t know. But I’m pretty sure they can expose him to waivers to get him off the 40-man, and if no one takes him they can just send him to AAA and not have to release him. Releasing a guy is what makes you have to pay him.
“I disagree. Did you see the game he played at 3B right before he got hurt? It was God awful. Morgan is no Brooks Robinson, but I think he’s better than Betemit.”
One game does not a player make. I saw Ensberg make some poor plays in his time here too.
Besides, how many days off does ARod take? The once in a blue moon that Betemit has to play 3B is really not a big deal. The fact that his bat is useful from at least one side of the plate is a much bigger deal. Also…he actually MADE a throw from 1B to 2B last night, which is much more than I can say for any of the other 1Bs on the roster.
This is certainly off topic, but I’ve come to believe that the entire DET lineup is filled with schizophrenics. They either score 15 runs or none at all. SEA just blanked them. How bad is a lineup going if SEA can shut you out? It wasn’t even Bedard pitching. Strange, very strange.
I hate to say it but Im really starting to think Cano is just going to have a really bad year. I keep waiting for him to turn it around. He just looks lost. Best he hits this year is .250
Good evening everyone. Glad too see Mike won last night, again!!
“Also…he actually MADE a throw from 1B to 2B last night, which is much more than I can say for any of the other 1Bs on the roster.”
Yes, being able to throw from 1B to 2B is an acquired taste for our current band of 1B players. We will just have to agree to disagree about Betemit. I just don’t care for the guy. I think we could do better.
“I hate to say it but Im really starting to think Cano is just going to have a really bad year. I keep waiting for him to turn it around. He just looks lost. Best he hits this year is .250″
I wouldn’t give up on him just yet. If he’s in this funk come July, then I’ll start to worry.
Laura,
There were so many expectations for the Tigers this year. Their pitching was going to be suspect, but no one anticipated that they would be paper Tigers at the plate.
It’s karma. Some were saying it was the best lineup EVER. We know that there are at least 2 lineups that are better and they both wore pinstripes.
I’m hearing from some of my Canadian friends that Tuesday’s game between Joba and Halliday is being hyped on the Canadian Sport’s Channel.
There are more pirate cheerleaders at the twins game than fans at the rays game. imagine that.
Well sure Minnesota was a large Pirate center. True story.
Laura, I agree with you about Cano. In his, what, 2-1/2 years of major league time, his career BA is over .300. Anyone can have a bad year, but I’d give him more time before I give up on him. And just because he smiles a lot doesn’t mean he doesn’t care.
There are bigger problems on this team than Robbie Cano.
“I think we could do better.”
For a bench player? Ok. Point one out to me. Would you rather have Miguel Cairo back? A guy like Alex Cora?
Wait. Joba is making his first start against Halliday?
jon heyman called tuesday’s matchup the most anticipated start of the year in n.y.
and called pedro’s start the same night #2
the hype is on!
“Kevin Long is growing a mustache in solidarity with The Big G.”
Not many grown men can pull off braces let alone a ’stache and braces. Big props to K Long for trying.
“jon heyman called tuesday’s matchup the most anticipated start of the year in n.y.”
Seriously? I hate the media.
“Seriously? I hate the media.”
Because you aren’t psyched to see Joba start a game???
That makes you hate the media??
Important start from Wang here. Bonser isn’t a good starter and the Minny lineup ain’t exactly murderers row.
Cano has way too good a swing to hit 200 the whole yr. He may not hit 330 but he’ll certainly not hit 200.
Prediction: Wang’s line 7 – 6 – 2 – 2 – 0 – 0 – 6k’s
Go Yankees….
Go Sun Devils…
“Because you aren’t psyched to see Joba start a game???”
Actually, I’m very excited. That doesn’t make this the most anticipated start of the year. He’s a promising young pitcher making his MLB starting debut. They’re trying to frame it as the last great hope of the Yankees, with Joba riding in on a white horse to save this struggling team. All that can do is add unnecessary pressure for him, and make the coverage more annoying for me to listen to.
The Yankees should have body suit man try to hit a home run!
I mean…Kershaw’s a young pitcher with just as much promise. Was his start the most anticipated Dodgers start of the year? They’re an underachieving, expensive team as well and he’s just as much a phenom, but even younger.
My point is that it’s just going to be aggravating putting up with the overblown coverage of a june baseball game where our starter will be limited to 70 pitches.
whozat, actually, you summed up what Joba does need to do pretty well, everyone knows it, and so does he. Joba seems VERY smart, so I’m sure he’s well aware that how he performs as a starter can greatly influence a number of Yankee official’s jobs, if this team goes anywhere this year, amongst other things. If Joba enters the rotation and is what he’s supposed to be, do you think many people are going to be complaining about Hughes and Kennedy? No, of course not, Joba can easily take the spotlight off their struggles and he can become the focus of everything.
Rebecca
Yes it is a Joba vs Halliday match-up on Tuesday.
Last night some people wre wondering how Boof Bonser’s mom came up with the nickname. My guess is that it came from the Michael J. Fox “Teen Wolf”. It was the nickname of Fox’s neighbor and childhood girl friend “Boof”. The movie was made in 1985 and Bonser was born in 1982.
Isn’t this guy supposed to be bad in the first inning?
“whozat, actually, you summed up what Joba does need to do pretty well,”
No, I didn’t. He doesn’t need to do that. He just needs to pitch well. He’s not supposed to be the #1 starter for this team RIGHT NOW. He’s just supposed to solidify a slot in the rotation. It’s ok if he struggles sometimes. He just has to offset it by being brilliant sometimes, which he is totally capable of. Being consistently brilliant will come in time.
If Joba goes out there feeling like he needs to
1) save the season
2) justify the wisdom of the youth movement
3) cure cancer
4) rescue 12 puppies a day, and
5) convince Osama and Bush to ‘hug it out’
he will achieve none of those things.
Hey, great job making the starter work and/or getting on base, derek. Awesome approach at the plate.
I guess it’s Wang time
whozat: I wouldn’t put it past Joba to accomplish #5
I wonder if I should watch the movie Atonement or this game.
But whozat, I think you’re missing the point… He CAN do 1 and 2 that you listed just by pitching how you said he needs to. This team is good right now. They need a push, something to put them over the top. That’s what Joba can be. Right now they are a good rotation with no 5th starter. He can make them a superb rotation with a 5th starter who can be an ace one day. If Joba fills that 5th spot, the Yankees have one last hole, an 8th inning guy. But he can solidify the rotation and that almost is riding in on a white horse and saving the season…
“Cano has way too good a swing to hit 200 the whole yr. He may not hit 330 but he’ll certainly not hit 200.”
He’s got a great swing, but too frequently he employs it on trying to hit crap. Without something close to plate discipline, he’s not going to be what he can be.
Who exactly is that Yankee minor league power arm everyone is talking about? I’ve looked at the SWB and Trenton team pitching stats and nobody really stands out. There might have been one or two that equaled a K per inning, but nothing like 40 innings and 60K’s for example. It appears to be decent arms, but nothing to get blown away by. And you have to consider the fact that AA players swing at almost everything and as they progress up to AAA and the major league, they get more selective.
Yankees 5-2
Just got my tickets today for the NY-Oakland game on the 11th.
Snagged some good VIP seats for cheap….I’m stoked! And maybe I wasn’t dreaming when I was hoping Joba would pitch on that series.
GO YANKS!
“I wonder if I should watch the movie Atonement or this game.”
Watch the Red Sox game.
“He can make them a superb rotation with a 5th starter who can be an ace one day”
There is no circumstance under which this rotation will be superb. As it stands it’s the 4th best IN THEIR OWN DIVISION. He can help improve on that to be sure.
“Actually, I’m very excited. That doesn’t make this the most anticipated start of the year”
Actually it is the most anticipated start of the year since it has been running on the ESPN News ticker the past 2 days.
Alex gets it started right here…..
Gotta get that run back and more.
Get to work bats
Fredo, what do you mean 4th best in the division?
Kennedy and Hughes had era’s around 9. They aren’t in the rotation anymore. I think it makes more sense to look at a pitching rotation with pitchers who are in the rotation than pitchers who WERE in the rotation…
“But he can solidify the rotation and that almost is riding in on a white horse and saving the season…”
You and I both know that the masses won’t perceive coming in and being solid as justifying the youth movement or saving the season. The way it’s being set up, people will be disappointed with an ERA around 4. I’ll be elated with that.
There is no circumstance under which this rotation will be superb. As it stands it’s the 4th best IN THEIR OWN DIVISION.
If Chamberlain is a top of the line starter from Day One or even by the summer this rotation becomes superb. Joba-Wang-Pettitte is a top of the line top 3.
Rasner has more than held his own. Check the stats.
The Sox without Dice K, the Rays have to show they can do it for more than 40 games, and the Orioles? You serious?
Have you yet to figure out that Whozat is a tool who just likes to hear himself (or see himself, since he is typing) talk?
He’ll say one thing in one post and then totally contradict himself in another post the same day or the day after. He also carries himself off like he is a total authority on any subject yet is probably a fat guy who has never played ball but thinks he is bright because his fantasy team did good last season.
“Actually it is the most anticipated start of the year since it has been running on the ESPN News ticker the past 2 days.”
They’re trying to manufacture this anticipation is my point. Sure, I’m really glad that he’s moving to the rotation, but I’m not champing at the bit mroe than I was for, say, opening day.
This team is ready to take off. Joba starting will help that set off.
is anyone else’s YES Hi DEF not working?
“I think it makes more sense to look at a pitching rotation with pitchers who are in the rotation than pitchers who WERE in the rotation”
They have better starting pitching than Baltimore’s. That’s it.
My YES Hi def is working
whozat, that’s a good point, but I think everyone will see it when they see what this team can actually do WITH a solid 5th starter. This team hasn’t really had chances to go on long winning streaks or be consistent with the 4th and 5th spot in the rotation being close to non-existent. Now the 4th spot seems pretty sound, and with a solid 5th starter I think the masses will like what this team can do.
“They’re trying to manufacture this anticipation is my point. Sure, I’m really glad that he’s moving to the rotation, but I’m not champing at the bit mroe than I was for, say, opening day.”
How is it manufactured? Who here isn’t excited about Tuesday??? It’s not fake hype. It is genuine excitement and all baseball fans want to see it. That kinda makes it the most anticipated start of the yr. Just check the cameras on Tuesday night when he makes his first pitch.
Who in the division has a better third starter than Andy P?
jesus, how the hell can anyone watch a sporting event not in hi-def? This is intolerable
cräp!
Igawang, where’s wrong with you
“If Chamberlain is a top of the line starter from Day One or even by the summer this rotation becomes superb. Joba-Wang-Pettitte is a top of the line top 3.
Rasner has more than held his own. Check the stats.
The Sox without Dice K, the Rays have to show they can do it for more than 40 games, and the Orioles? You serious?”
So Chamnerlain has made a total of ZERO starts and he’s a top of the line starter while the Rays have been great for 1/3 of the season but we have to wait and see???
BTW, Toronto’s rotation runs circles around all of ‘em.
weird, no idea why mine isnt… lemme go check the kids room
Wang as the ace of a rotation??? That automatically makes them 5th in the division. Cabrera is better than him in Baltimore.
“They have better starting pitching than Baltimore’s. That’s it.”
What a well supported argument.
“How is it manufactured?”
Sure, there’s excitement. But to assert that this is more anticipated than opening day? The first game of the season against the Sox?
Kelvin, I would say no one but at this point Andy is their second starter… But there’s still no number 2 I’d rather have starting in an important game.
Can you imagine how good the yanks would be in Melky was 1/2 the player Gomez is..
“So Chamnerlain has made a total of ZERO starts and he’s a top of the line starter while the Rays have been great for 1/3 of the season but we have to wait and see???”
And who would be shocked by Chamberlain becoming an ace from Day 1??
I’ll take my chances with him over Matt Garza and Kazmir staying healthy
I can’t wait for Joba to start on Tues.
But I worry if he’s not lights out in his first couple of starts, some whacked out Yankees fans will be calling for his head and for him to go back to the bullpen ASAP. Not that their cries will really do anything.
I hope we all remember(including me
) that Joba might have ups and downs. We have to be patient and see what happens
This just drives me nuts, How is Matsui NOT tagging on that hit? If the ball drops, he can still score from second, but on the out he is now at 3rd. Just don’t get it.
“Who in the division has a better third starter than Andy P?”
So we compare our #2 starter to everyone else’s #3????
Because on ESPN and in the papers and all over talk radio there was talk about Wangs start vs Boston??
You can deny the hype of Joba’s start all you want but every baseball fan is looking forward to Tues.
Cano is a flat out awful this year.
cano is hopeless right now… between him and jeter they may have the worst hitting middle of the infield in the AL
You know, this team could go 162-0 and you all would still find things to complain about
has anyone seen Robby Cano???
Chamberlain will be our #1 starter by September. If he’s not this team doesn’t win 85 games.
Does anyone know how much longer Jonathan Albaladejo will be out?? He’s been out at least a few weeks, no?
Matsui is wasted on this team
Cano is not the same player he was. He looks lost.
I love ER. Talk about a loser.
the only thing more painful than watching cano and jeter hit is watching cano and jeter hit in non hi-def
Throw in shapeshifter in that too. Get a life.
Kelvin, that’s a pretty illogical statement. The Yankees can do just fine even if Joba is their 5th starter. Do I think he’ll still be the 5th starter by September and not have moved up? Absolutely not, but the bottom line is Joba enters the rotation as the 5th. What he is by September is up to him…
There is our big Ace. Wang getting hit by the vaunted Twins. He looks worse than Mussina.
My prediction for Mr. Wang: 5 innings, 10 hits, 5 runs.
“cano is hopeless right now… between him and jeter they may have the worst hitting middle of the infield in the AL”
Not as long as Tony Pena Jr. holds a job in KC, they aren’t.
c’mon Wang
Rebecca, clearly the 162-0 Yankees will have won too many one run games when they should have blown everybody out!
thanks brain. what have I said that bothers you? that jeter and cano are hopeless right now? im sorry.. they are CRUSHING it. its people like Brian F that watch every thing with rose colored glasses that give real yankee fans a bad name. you sir are a disgrace. go root for the mets
How is illogical to say that Joba will be a top of the line starter by September? Not like a 22 yr old can’t be right? Like he hasn’t had major league experience, right? You think this kid will be intimidated by the stage??
You think he’ll frighten? He doesn’t have the stuff??
I just get a kick out of defeatist trolls like you shapeshifter. Post away!
rebecca, no offense but coming from you, who could find happiness if they were 0-162 that doesnt carry much weight
Fredo-
At lease Pena can field his position at SS
Wang needs a defense behind him. We don’t have a defense for him.
Okay, Wang, please, I know you like ground balls, but outs are so much more fun.
Also, I hate thunderstorms.
Rebecca-
its equally amusing/distrssing that so called fans like yourself can find happiness if the yanks were 0-162.
I’d rather listen to people like rebecca who don’t quit at the first sign of trouble than any defeatist quitter here.
what the hell was molina doing there, had he been on the line instead of 3 ft in front of it, he would have at least had a chance.
Wang doesn’t seem to do too well pitching at the Metrodome.
Once again Wang in trouble. He is not a 1. Maybe a 3 at the most. I don’t care if he won 19 the last two years. He needs to be a stopper to be a 1
Wang has not won a game since May 2nd. He is not looking sharp so far tonight. The Yanks though should be able to score runs. Bonser has an ERA of over 6.
Wang just needs to get the ball down. Every hit has been mid thigh and flat or flat and up in the zone.
Wang blows….giving up one run every inning ain’t gonna cut it. He ain’t winning another game for the rest of the year.
who is quitting? i just call it like I see it… ive been a yanks fan for 20+ years. i just dont blidly worship players like you do.
isnt the catcher (or the pitcher) supposed to call for OF throws to be cut if they are offline or late? in the last 3 weeks, ive seen abreu’s offline throws go through time and time again.
bring back Igawa!
isnt it funny that Wang/Jeter/Cano have all been really really bad lately….I know Jeter will turn it around and I hope Wang can…But Cano SUCK!
Kelvin, it’s illogical because for Joba to be the #1 he will have to:
1) Be able to easily go 7 innings with little to no experience in minimizing pitch count in the major leagues. Can he figure it out be then, sure, but saying he definitely will is fraudulent.
2) He has to pitch SO much better than Wang that it’s not even a question of who the number 1 should be. To be, that’s probably not very feasible.
If you believe those two things are automatic then you’re crazy. I don’t care how good he is, he has very little experience in the majors and there will be a learning curve.
Kennedy and Hughes really crapped the bed this yr. No wins between them? Who would have thought? No wonder we are in last. But that doesn’t mean we have a bad rotation going forward with Joba and Rasner.
Chamberlain has top of the rotation stuff and top of the rotation makeup. To say he won’t know how to pitch a solid 7 innings is totally illogical.
I’ll tell you this. Every Yankee employee from the front office to the coaching staff believes he will be that top of the rotation starter sooner rather than later.
If him and Wang battle for the Ace mantle I think we’ll all be very happy.
At least Poopi and Co. are also down 2-0, but they have the ability to come back, unlike the 2008 Yankees
Posada can’t come back soon enough. Molina just can’t hit. Melky can’t hit either. The bottom of the order is terrible. Maybe Gardner deserves a shot in CF.
did you watch yesterday’s game?
would be nice to see captain intangibles do something. for once.
can jeter please do something here
Jim Palmer just called Pedroia a ‘munchkin’ during the O’s broadcast.
jeter has to be hurt…and cano needs a day or 2 off
i cant remember seeing jeter this putrid ever… didnt he once go 0-32 though?
# The Last Yankee Fan (formerly, ER, from the set of) May 31st, 2008 at 7:51 pm
At least Poopi and Co. are also down 2-0, but they have the ability to come back, unlike the 2008 Yankees
I don’t comprehend why a Sox fan would waste his time every night posting on a Yankee board. Wow.
Now, let’s capitalize!!!!
“At least Poopi and Co. are also down 2-0, but they have the ability to come back, unlike the 2008 Yankees”
They just did. The little mite at 2nd and Ortiz just went back to back.
Yeah seriously you’d like to see Jeter drive Damon in rather than hitting a weak ground ball. That worries me more than Melky not getting a hit every single time he bats. At least you’re guaranteed solid defense 24/7 from Melky… Jeter needs to give them SOMETHING.
oops, Poopi & Co. now tied it 2-2
did anyone see that stupid Redsox tallent show during spring training? Pedroia took his shirt off and he looked like a 45 year old man
It would be nice to get at least Damon home.
“i cant remember seeing jeter this putrid ever… didnt he once go 0-32 though?”
He did once. This is different. This slump coincided with him being hit in the hand. You have to wonder if he’s right at this point.
come on AROD
Nice! Good teams make teams pay for errors. C’mon A Rod, let’s take a lead now.
“At least Poopi and Co. are also down 2-0, but they have the ability to come back, unlike the 2008 Yankees”
Like last night right? You should really think before you post.
Fredo-
was his defense as terrible as it is now when we went 0-32?
We might have to re-sign Abreu at the end of the season.
wait nevermind it really doesnt matter how many runs we score wang will just keep building his fence 1 1 1 1 1 1 1
laura they have to resign bobby…why the hell wouldnt they
Oh my. Tell me if you all can watch this:
http://www.apple.com/trailers/...../trailer1/
And not go “huh” when you hear “Joba’s son has been kidnapped”?
Anyone else want to say A-Rod isn’t clutch?
Nice 2 out hitting by Abreu and ARod
Heading out now. But LOVING these two out hits!
Have a good game all.
Nice job A Rod. Wang will shut them down the rest of the way. Go home trolls, it’s over for you.
Rebecca that does sound funny. Is that a trailer for a game?
Way to come through, Alex!!!!!!
Yeah A-Rod!
“laura they have to resign bobby…why the hell wouldnt they”
Cuz he’s 35 next season, and it will likely require a multiple year deal. If he agrees to three years or less, you can argue that you go ahead with it, even if he does have an irrational fear of walls. If he wants more than that, then you send him packing.
Good to see us stealing more bases. Now that everyone is “almost” healthy, we can run more.
Cano’s bat here: “Robbie, did you see how Abreu and ARod made the pitcher work and then got a pitch to hit?” “Did you also notice they took pitches?”
Let’s see what you can do next time up….
Your pal Whiff
Of all the yankees this year, IMO Jeter has been the most dissapointing. by far. he hasnt stepped up a bit, and by stepping up I dont mean hitting .360 There have been far too manny games when all he simply needed to do was get on base, hit it to the right side or get down a bunt. combine that with legitimate sub-par defense and there ya go. jeter is a vastly overrated player at this point in his career. its that simple.
Rock on ALex!
buck teeth, Wang won’t last past 5
ok now who’s gonna dump on matsui for not getting a hit every time up?
Let’s see Wang hold the lead.
Nice two out rally
“Cuz he’s 35 next season, and it will likely require a multiple year deal. ”
True, but my hope is that he’ll want to stay enough that he’ll be happy with a two year deal. If he wants a 3 yr deal, I think that the Yankees will and should pass.
Rebecca- That does sound weird. lol
I didn’t that was gonna be a movie coming out this year
shape really beating the dead horse there everybody knows you hate jeter ok. when that changes, send us a message.
Breaking NEWS!!!!!!!
NY Yankees steal 2 bases in the same inning!!!!!!
Nice to see Girardi grow some and start pushing the envelope. Good inning boys, now Wanger, mid thigh and lower with the ball diving down.
**I didn’t realize that**
“Anyone else want to say A-Rod isn’t clutch?”
3rd inning…Metrodome….May. Not exactly your prototypical clutch situation. We’ll take it, but til he does something in a month beginning with the letter “O”, he’s not getting a clutch label.
“Of all the yankees this year, IMO Jeter has been the most dissapointing.”
You have got to be kidding. Cano is barely batting his weight. Giambi can’t throw to 2B. Our two young pitchers don’t have any wins and are on the DL and you think that Jeter is the most disappointing Yankee this year? Get real.
“wait nevermind it really doesnt matter how many runs we score wang will just keep building his fence 1 1 1 1 1 1 1″
lemme guess..
Wang’s biggest fan?
I think Cano left his bat in Tampa
“3rd inning…Metrodome….May. Not exactly your prototypical clutch situation.”
Two outs, two men in scoring position. Sorry, but that’s clutch. What month it occurs in doesn’t matter.
unreal we score Wang 3 runs and he leads off the inning with a walk…Is it just me or is everything up
“True, but my hope is that he’ll want to stay enough that he’ll be happy with a two year deal. If he wants a 3 yr deal, I think that the Yankees will and should pass.”
Some offensively starved team will offer him atleast three seasons. You can forget loyalty. This will be his last contract. He has to to hit a homerun on it.
Why is he walking this guy? Good grief!
What is with Wang and these walks? Leadoff walks are not a good thing for him to give up.
“3rd inning…Metrodome….May. Not exactly your prototypical clutch situation. We’ll take it, but til he does something in a month beginning with the letter “Oâ€, he’s not getting a clutch label.”
Yeah…..
But for Alex in the reuglar season, we will not even smell October. Probably you have to be content watching Red Sox and others while Yanks go home.
Laura-
Cano is still a kid. So are IPK and Phil. Giambi cant field if his life depended on it but at least he has a few clucth hits. What is Jeter’s excuse? I expect more out of him, is that so wrong? he did NOTHING to step when Arod was out. NOTHING at all. Keep pretending its 1999
like i said it doesnt matter how many runs the yankees can score today
shape, you know what a one-trick pony is?
This is why wang is not a 1 You score 3 runs an he is in trouble in his half of the inning
it’s not going to take much for joba to be the number 1 over wang…
“he did NOTHING to step when Arod was out. ”
Here is where your argument just went into the toilet. It has been mentioned several times that when A-Rod was out, Jeter was the only one who stepped up. In fact, I believe they say he hit .357 when A-Rod was hurt. You call that doing nothing?
Wang looks lost
There’s our ACE
Folks (or kids!), calm down.
It is only the third innning.
It will be a high scoring game and Yanks will win.
If you do not believe, take a nap and come back and watch the ninth inning.
Do not liiter the blog with garbage.
laura dont confuse him with facts…
what is wrong with wang?
BBfan thats great but the point is Wang has been bad 5 starts in arow now
Don’t get me wrong I like Wong but he is only at 2 or 3 at the best. If he is you 1 you are in trouble
you wang haters are retarted…
Igawang strikes again
instead of throwing everything down he is right in the middle of the plate or up in the zone.
Come On Wang!
can the real WANG please take the mound… this Wang is pathetic… he really can’t be trusted in big games…
Back to work bats
that pitch he threw to strike out Young that is his money pitch down and away. He needs to stay there
there you go wang.
nice nickname for wang last yankee fan. how long did it take you to think of that one?
At least Wang kept the damage to a minimum.
Sorry Laura, for some of us the statute of limitations on jeter has run out.
buckteeth, igawa and steve, your friends just called, they’re meeting behind the hedges at the school to smoke some joints before they go rollerskating. if you hurry you can still catch up with them.
3rd inning…Metrodome….May. Not exactly your prototypical clutch situation. We’ll take it, but til he does something in a month beginning with the letter “Oâ€, he’s not getting a clutch label.
I guess if he struck out you would say he’s UNCLUTCH, fredo???
WAAAAAAAAAAH – Wang is not an ace!
WAAAAAH
Please listen to me!
Wang is not an ace!
Waah waah wah
Oh I’m ever so important!
Wang is not an ace!
Wang is a mess right now. He’s had much worse control all this year than is usual for him, with a 3.20 BB/9. His career BB/9, before this year, was 2.40. So something is way off. Thankfully, Wang is such a good pitcher that he is able to grind through, not blow up, and give the Yankees many innings.
Shapeshifter is an Oriole fan.
Giambi got robbed.
Hey Laura- do they teach math in your world? What has jeter been hitting since april 29th?
wow did Cano really just get a hit.
Nice Robbie
ham fighter
May 31st, 2008 at 8:20 pm
buckteeth, igawa and steve, your friends just called, they’re meeting behind the hedges at the school to smoke some joints before they go rollerskating. if you hurry you can still catch up with them.
Wow. thats remarkably un-funny. seriously.
Why does it matter if Wang is a #1 or a #2? Do you fools really think that having a #1 like a Beckett or Sabathia, or Verlander makes the team that much better.
FYI All three of those studs suck right now and Becket has had 1 year where he was good. Sabathia the same. Verlander is becomging, well by some on this blogs standards, average.
Lighten up. Whether you are the #1 or #4, your job is to give your team a chance to win. Keep them close and in the game not strike every hitter out or throw a no hitter…
That is why you have 8 other guys out there backing you up.
just so I am clear, is a troll someone who dares criticize a beloved yankee? or is it just someone who doesnt worship at the house of jeter?
damn, shape, broke your string of 78 consecutive i hate jeter posts. about to start a longer one im sure now.
took less than a minute for you to go back to your one trick
Who cares who is #1.
Mussina is not a #1 talent-wise, but leads the league in wins. What matters ultimately is wins.
If Yanks win this game, I do not care if Wang is viewed as #1 or not.
anyone else think he didnt stay on the bag?
Being an ace means a lot to a ballclub because it gives them confidence every 5th day they are getting a shutdown performance. adds a little pep to the step.
And don’t forget how important it is come October.
ham- i think its sweet that you feel the need to defend laura. i really do. chivalry isnt dead.
this “who is an ace stuff” is about the most irrelevant topic to the real world this time of the year. Come September, if you want to debate about who should be pitching game one of the playoffs that’s fine. Oh and don’t forget, Torre usually had David Cone pitch game 3 of a playoff series, of course those teams had multiple aces.
Wang looks off tonight. He going for the run an inning thing?
forget about jeter… wang looks like a different pitcher the past 3 starts which is more disconcerting.
shapeshifter: Since April 29th – (.267 AVG .345 OBP .381 SLG .726 OPS), so you’re right on that.
However, why are you still getting on Laura if you were wrong in your assessment of Jeter when you said “he did NOTHING to step when Arod was out. NOTHING at all.”?
A-Rod was out from April 29th to May 18th. Jeter went .357/.408/.514/.922 with 2 HRs, 8 RBIs, and 13 runs. You expected him to go .400 with a .450 OBP?
Yes, he hasn’t done much of anything after A-Rod came back, but still, you can’t say Jeter didn’t do anything when A-Rod was gone. It doesn’t make sense.
Wang is killing himself by letting the first guy get on.
yanks caught a nice break there…
They just gave Wang a gift. Let’s see him take advantage of it.
whats with the “wang the ace” stuff? who cares?
“this “who is an ace stuff†is about the most irrelevant topic to the real world this time of the year. Come September, if you want to debate about who should be pitching game one of the playoffs that’s fine.”
Well said Jeff NY.
What we need now are wins to get to the post season. Whether they are won by Joba or Rasner or Wang, they all count the same.
Wang has been dreadful. Once again this why he isn’t an ace because he doesn’t know how to make adjustments..like good pitchers do. I don’t understand why he isn’t throwing his other pitches if his sinker is clearly not working tonight.
OK, scratch the Ace stuff, how is Wang doing tonight?
god those blizzards look good behind home plate
Not good
Curious to know why Molina isn’t calling for other pitches…
“OK, scratch the Ace stuff, how is Wang doing tonight?”
He is doing good.
He kept the Yanks in the game so far.
Man I hate when a teams ACE can work out of trouble and not give up a run…
Guess there goes the picket fence mentioned above.
It’s too frustrating watching Wang pitch. I’ll go back to Atonement now and return if Yanks are winning
Aces are irrelevant?
Maybe you are happy without a title the past 7 years.
come on Johnny Damon
walks=runs
i have seen him plenty wild inside/outside/down before. i have NEVER seen him this wild WAY up in the zone. he looks absolutely terrible, and quite honestly, has for a few starts now. you have to wonder if he was so focused on starting strong after last october that he burnt himself out a little in april. i realize a pitcher tries to bring his best stuff every night, but with 3500 pitches to be thrown over 6 months, there has to be something they are looking to conserve somewhere, when they need that little extra as the season wears on. hopefully it’s a just a rough patch and there is nothing to this, and definitely hope it’s not something worse.
He is doing good.
He kept the Yanks in the game so far.
Aces aren’t supposed to give up a run an inning and pitch out of trouble every time.
C’mon we need to take care of 2w-6L BOOF bonser…let’s send him to the showers boys.
TB is on the verge of winning another game. Unbelievable.
There are times when Wang can look totally dominant, and other times when he looks like he has no clue on the mound.
That’s right, Wang is not an ace,
aces throw 200 scoreless innings a year.
Aces never have problems, ever.
Aces get 27 K’s a game.
And I feel important whenever I declare that someone is not an ace. That way, I feel less insecure about myself.
WAAAAAAAAAH!
Wang is not an ace!
Listen to meeeeeee, I’m important!
Tampa on fire
just curious, but does anyone know what sort of slump jeter is in? 1-???
CC getting roughed up
Jetes is really struggling
Now that people are getting healthy, Girardi is playing his brand of ball with aggressivenes.
The Yanks haven’t won a World Series in 7 years. Wah wah wah. They’re supposed to win every year.
Some huge Yankee fan there. The Yanks aren’t winning tonight. Wah wah wah. I’ll watch Atonement instead. Wah wah wah.
ugh
arod homers here
Jeter got hit on May 20 right? If so, he should be batting 3-34 since then, not counting tonight.
Coming back right after getting hit deserves props, no doubt, but the guy should really take a game off or two.
A Rod
Boof is at 93 pitches
yikes..3-34 is not good, but he has been doing this too long to suddenly forgotten how to hit. he’ll bounce back. i’m sure he desires it more than we do
Red sox option buchholtz to the minors
wanger
Get back to work bats
Nice quick inning Wang!
Nice quick inning by Wang.
Interesting about Karstens. I wonder what they see in him. (And I am not being sarcastic, I’m really curious.)
Wonder what’s going on about Bucholz going to minors (if it’s true).
How much do you think Howie Clark hates it when Alex Rodriguez comes to town. 2 years in a row, bad things happen
From Pete Caldera’s Record Blog
“A year and a day after Alex Rodriguez yelled “mine!” or “ha!” on the bases behind Howie Clark, Mr. Clark was designated for assignment by the Twins there today, to make room for Nick Punto.”
hmmm…3 more outs and wang has yet another quality start. What more could you ask for? You could hope for more, a tighter lights out performance, but it’s up to our offense to take advantage or cy boof bonser, his 2-6 record and 6+ era.
Karstens is coming up? Oh well, hope he does well up here.
BTW-Will we get a Chris Britton sighting today? Maybe?
lol nice approach, look at those losers.
that ought to shut the retards who try to catch some text fight.
Wang’s been off tonight
I agree on the point that pitchers need to keep their team in game, and Wang has been doing that tonight despite having horrible control.
Hopeuflly he can retain control and finish 7 innings without giving up anymore runs.
Let’s go Yankees!
I wish that someone in the media would actually press Girardi or Cash about why being on the 40-man is more important than playing well at AAA. I mean…it took AGES for Rasner to work his way up here, despite pitching better than many guys in the pen. Giese’s better than Karstens, and yet it looks like he’ll get passed over too. Patterson was pitching better than other guy, and HE’S gotten passed over…
Bonser’s at 99 pitches, knock him outta there
“BTW-Will we get a Chris Britton sighting today? Maybe?”
Nah. They’ll send him down for Karstens early, just to get him off the roster. Because he’s fat. Who cares that he’s pitched well? He’s fat, so he sucks.
I’m still guessing that Britton smashed Girardi’s car or something on that level
Giambi beats the shift. Ok homework assignment, every male Yankee fan needs to grow Giamustaches for the homestand. This does not apply to women or trolls.
“Wonder what’s going on about Bucholz going to minors (if it’s true).”
Joe-it’s true. they want him “to refine and develop some things without the stress of winning games for the Red Sox.”
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....p;c_id=mlb
whozat – Now THAT’S sarcasm! (lol)
So my post disappeared. Lemme try this again
“Wonder what’s going on about Bucholz going to minors (if it’s true).”
Joe-it’s true. they want him “to refine and develop some things without the stress of winning games for the Red Sox.”
There’s an article on it on mlb.com
bunt
Bad at bat by Cano. Have to move the runners over.
Cano should be bunting here instead of hacking away. He is impossible to watch when he gives up his at bats..what an idiot.
Gees Cano
shoulda had cano sacrifice bunt…
i have a feeling these 2 runners are going to be stranded
Molina up UGH
That is horrible Yanks
Cano has not been having good ABs. First pitch swinging or not advancing runners.
I agree, should have bunted
Tampa 12 games over .500
Jeff NJ
Wouldn’t be surprised to see someone selling mustaches outside the stadium on Tuesday.
Present and accounted for.
Will take a few minutes to catch up. I see both of our games are tied. (Well, my two games anyway.)
GO YANKEES!!!
GO O’S!!!
Oh well
Jose can you see! Nice hit!
Jorge who? Molina is starting to produce again.
yeah…a sacrifice bunt could have boosted his confidence that he attributed something
Great at bat by Molina…
I mean, here I am to bring us good luck!
Tribe getting beat
Molina baby!
Pre hamstring injury Molina has returned!!
Clutch hit by Jose Molina.
For some reason it feels like Molina is able to have quality at bats when the Yankees desperately need a run, but when he’s up with no one on base he mostly hits weak ground balls. If only he could buckle down like he does with runners in scoring position…
2 more would be nice
Mr. Doubles comes through!
Put it in play Melky
Hey Trisha – just as you came the Yanks took the lead. You must be bringing good luck!
melky
Anybody but Giambi scores on that one.
(I’m just looking for fantasy points)
long day
HA HA HA!
Silly to cut off any throw where Ron J is running!
(Laura, I laugh every time you call him that!!!)
we’ll take that sacrifice fly by the Melkman!
got a wedgie in his thong
Man, Giambi looked like he was running in place. LOL!
lol oh my Giambi ran slow…..haha
good effort tho!
5:3, here’s for more runs!
Wow simple single, Sac fly…
Could the Yanks be playing “smart baseball”….
Damon!!!
Johnny!
Good thing they got this all done before Jeter’s spot came up.
“(Laura, I laugh every time you call him that!!!)”
I’m here to entertain.
Yanks are starting to get these big 2 out hits now. Could hardly get any during the first weeks of the season and the opposition did it constantly. The worm has turned.
“yeah…a sacrifice bunt could have boosted his confidence that he attributed something”
Cano’s not a good bunter. He probably would have fouled out or gotten Matsui thrown out at third.
bring MO in LOL
Who is this team hitting these 2 out hits? I don’t think i recognize them.
Captain my Captain
Cano reminds me exactly of Reyes…extremely immature. I really wonder if the Yanks behind the scenes ever have a meetings with him. I can’t imagine Girardi just allowing this to keep going on. Not hitting is one thing, but out of 4 at bats a night he gives away atleast 2 of them. By hacking away and looking like he could care less.
Fran – I hope I can bring equal luck to the Sux!
Speaking of bringing luck but not necessarily having any – I spent several hours at one of our local casinos today. Amazing how much our parents are always right. This obviously isn’t rocket science, but my dad’s line to us was “You have to be stupid throwing your money away there. The house always wins.”
As usual, father knows best…
jeter
“Could the Yanks be playing “smart baseballâ€â€¦.”
They’re playing the same kind of game they always play. Overwhelming you by putting long ABs on the pitcher. It’s not like they don’t WANT to string together hits. It’s not like they don’t think driving in runners from third with less than two outs is a good idea.
“By hacking away and looking like he could care less.”
He looked pissed when he popped up. I don’t think he doesn’t care. I’m starting to think that he just can’t help himself (re. swining at every pitch).
Cashman – if you’re reading this – Put Jeter on the DL for 15 days.
Girardi should really get someone up in the bullpen..Oh sorry the Yanks don’t have a pitcher who can get outs before the 9th inning. Another leadoff hitter on base..after the Yanks give Wang a 3 run lead. Not good..
OK Ace you have a three run lead
“By hacking away and looking like he could care less.”
He may hack, but it is NOT that he doesn’t care. He’s frustrated.
Did you read the anecdote about the team photo? I think Pete posted it. It was team photo day, and Robbie was kind of lagging back in the tunnel when everyone else was out on the field. A clubhouse worker called him to come out and be in the photo, and he said self-deprecatingly “yeah…the AAA team photo, maybe…” before going out there.
He’s clearly kind of embarrassed by what’s going on.
Trisha – I won $200 once at a casino. I have lost every other time. When I do go (not very often), I don’t bring a lot of money since I am prepared to loose it.
Now let’s see Wang hold the lead.
Now watch Igawang give it all away
New Stadium Photo Update: http://tinyurl.com/55onml
“Oh sorry the Yanks don’t have a pitcher who can get outs before the 9th inning.”
Yeah, Ramirez’ ERA is really awful.
Now a quick DP so Wang can go another inning.
Here we go….Wang please get people out!!!
Hey Peter, you still on the “Wang is an ace” bandwagon? Seems only fair to point out since you brought it up after seemingly every scoreless inning Wang threw in April.
His last 3 starts:
1. 7.2 IP, 9 baseunners allowed, 7 ER
2. 6.1 IP, 11 baserunners allowed, 5 ER
3. 5 IP, 9 baserunners allowed, 3 ER (so far)
His ERA on the season sits at 3.92 at the moment – far from ace-worthy. And neither of those two starts listed above were like his earlier Boston start, where it was clear from the outset that the game would be a slugfest and a pitcher could take more chances.
After a great start, he’s come back down to pitch at a level more reflective of his true abilities.
I’m not flaming – I’m a Yankee fan, and from my limited knowledge of his personality, he seems like a good guy. Is he an above-average pitcher? Absolutely.
But he’s not an ace by any stretch of the word. He hasn’t been in his first 2 seasons in the league, and he isn’t now. Period.
come on Wang.
Get out of this
Ok Ace tieing run at the plate
Molina had plenty of time to get the runner at 2nd..Awful throw.
Not all Lohud bloggers liked Wang
He’s not a true Ace, some sang
In spite of that sin
He continued to win
As long as his slider didn’t hang
Manny just hit HR #500
why is Wang still in the game?!? they score 3 runs take him out dont wait till he gives up the lead to take him out
Casilla has bugged Edwar in AAA before…IDK
Looked like Abreu could have got that if he dived for it.
This is why he is not the ace of any staff. He is good but there is a difference between being good an an Ace
Let’s go Edwar!
Enough of this “Ramirez is the lefty specialist”. Keep thinking that and he will get tattooed. He has only pitched 15 innings this year lets not go crazy.
Yet another chance for Edwar Ramirez to test his mettle in a tough spot…
GO YANKS!!!!
its midget home run day at Camden Yards…. Pedroia and Roberts home runs
Wang couldn’t even make the Tampa Bay’s starting rotation.
“This is why he is not the ace of any staff. He is good but there is a difference between being good an an Ace”
This whole debate about whether Wang is an Ace is ridiculous. Just because he has a bad start doesn’t mean he’s not an Ace. Beckett pitched poorly his last time out if I’m not mistaken. Does that mean that he’s not the Ace for the Crock Sox? Wang is the Yankees Ace. End of discussion.
im sorry when you are givin a 6-3 lead and you cant even go six thats a joke
Bad job by Wang there -he needed to have a quick inning – not put the Twins in position to tie the game.
Edwar gives up a run
“Manny just hit HR #500″
As the ball sailed out, Mannny (being Manny) stood at home plate, watching and admiring it – he then took out a camcorder an filmed it… then he took out his camera and took a few photos of it… and then…
“Wang couldn’t even make the Tampa Bay’s starting rotation.”
This might be one of the most ill advised posts I’ve read this year. So you think that Sonnastine and Jackson are better than Wang? Unreal.
Oh well
it is time to call someone up
edwar is amazing
but we need 3 more innings, mo can’t do everything here
farnsworth is just bad news.
Once again the great Jeter…Seriously he should be on the bench for a day or 2..He has looked DREADFUL!!! Not bad dreadful. It is not slump, he is hurt..He is not hitting, can’t throw, can’t run. But ofcourse no one is allowed to talk about the golden boy. If Arod was playing like him everyone would eb screaming there heads off.
Manny, with his girly dreadlocks flying in the wind.
Chad Bradford and his submariner pitch always manages to hold the Yanks at bay, but not so the Sux. Didn’t he pitch for them once? What is he embedded? Meanwhile Millar the girl always cowboys up against us but only likes to pony up against his former idiot teammates.
dont feed the trolls.
Awesome job by Edwar right there to hold the lead.
Alright! Back to work bats!
I’m not saying wang is not a good pitcher. He is good but the ace of a staff is dominating most nights. Is he the man you want on the mound in a must win. Not me I want Andy
Good job by Edwar to get out of the inning with the Yanks still leading.
We need to add some more runs, guys. Let’s get going!
Edwar continues to impress…
Maybe he’s the real deal!
Go Yanks!!!!
“His ERA on the season sits at 3.92 at the moment – far from ace-worthy.”
I’m just curious, how are the other “ace worthy” pitchers pitching so far this year?
#9 -
not Edwars run to give up.
KB:
You’re right. I think they should release Wang before he hurts them any more. They need a true ace like Josh Beckett. Oh, wait, he has a 4.30 ERA.
Then about somebody who strikes a lot of guys out like Justin Verlander? He’s an ace. Oh, wait, he is 2-7, 5.16.
Obviously I’m being sarcastic. I just wish I knew why people are so quick to hate the guy. This is the one crappy stretch he has had in his career. The Yankees don’t make the playoffs the last two seasons without him.
If Rivera is needed tonight, that’ll be 4 straight games he’ll be used and 4 games in 5 days, including one 2 inning outing. For someone his age, that’s really pushing it and he could feel the effects later on this season. It’s why it was silly imo not to let Joba close out the game on Wednesday.
trisha –
May 31st, 2008 at 9:21 pm
“Fran – I hope I can bring equal luck to the Sux!”
So Trisha, are you trying to bring bad luck to the Sox for yesterday’s game or tonight’s game???
Just a little bit of good natured harassment. I read your post earlier today and couldn’t resist making a comment.
I hope you are having a good evening!
So here’s my question. We’ve seen Edwar pitch entire innings, come in in the middle of innings, pitch more than an inning. He doesn’t just pitch to one person.
So why aren’t we considering him as our bridge to Mo?
Wang = 17 ER in his last 19 1/3.
“Edwar gives up a run”
He let an inherited runner score on a potential DP ball. What’re you gonna do? Really bad outing by Wanger.
Still has better numbers than the ACEACEOMGLOLZACE Beckett this season, though.
Gee…where were you guys when Wang rang off 5 straight quality starts and a 1.36 ERA 4/27-5/18?
See the wonders one can do with selective sampling.
Wang has been bad past few starts, bad
I think Edwar is in consideration to being the bridge to Mo.
It is mind-boggling how the Yankees have hired the most awful analysts across both radio and TV in MLB.
Why do the advertise the Snoop Dog with Rhona Kay with the line “Snoops unlikely frindship with Willie Nelson…”
Hell – I would think they would have lots in common.
Wonder who rolls a tighter one?
Edwar’s really earned his spot in the bullpen. Color me surprised. I was a huge fan of his last year, but seeing him struggle in the bigs, I really thought he wouldn’t make it. Looks like he’s proving me wrong, and I’m glad to have it happen!
Hey Ray – I would have been more impressed if you made that comment before the Sux took the lead – if you get my drift. I really don’t have any faith in anything brought forward by Sux fans, especially when they wait until their team has the lead to say anything. Not good Ray. Not good.
That wasn’t a strike. These umps are blind.
“So why aren’t we considering him as our bridge to Mo?”
Well, given how good he is against lefties, you kind of want him to be a lefty-setup guy, I figure. I think Girardi matched up great right there. Tight spot, three lefties for him to face…If you don’t need him in that spot in a game, you can bring him in later to set up. You still need another dependable arm.
And that call was crap.
Could be the game
I think Wang does not pitch well with extra rest. His last 2 starts have been on 5 days rest vs the normal 4. I dunno, whatever the case I’m a Wang fan.
Cripes I say I lose at the casino, and the Sux take the lead, and the guy wonders if I’m having a good evening.
Well, yeah because of the Yankees, but only a Yankee fan could appreciate that!
K, K, my way
“This is the one crappy stretch he has had in his career. The Yankees don’t make the playoffs the last two seasons without him.”
2nd crappy stretch. How soon we forget last October.
Rasner is the Ace now…that is, until tomorrow
our favorite delinquent is 1 for 2 w/ a R
Melancon showed he is human in the 4th inning
Kevin Whelan so far
2.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 4 K’s
GO/AO 2-0
Wilkins De La Rosa with 3 IP w/ 2 H, 0 BB and 3 K’s.
GO/AO 6-0
#9, that made me lol. We’ve all heard stories about the inside of the Willie Nelson tour bus.
Gipers, come on guys
“Wang has been bad past few starts, bad”
This is his third bad start in a row. Before that he was still doing more than fine.
One thing I’ve noticed is he’s fairly consistently been walking too many guys.
Trisha,
I think Edwar is in the running for the 8th inning spot, but he has had his ups and downs in his brief ML career. I would like to see him weather some adversity in the bullpen and prove his toughness before anointing him that role.
I don’t mean this as a dig against Edwar, as I am a fan of his and want to see him succeed. I just want to make sure of his mental toughness.
“Still has better numbers than the ACEACEOMGLOLZACE Beckett this season, though.”
I like Wang, but if the Sox offered Beckett for Wang tonite, Cashman would drive to Boston to make the swap.
“Edwar’s really earned his spot in the bullpen. Color me surprised. I was a huge fan of his last year, but seeing him struggle in the bigs, I really thought he wouldn’t make it.”
This is why you don’t give up on young pitchers who are still developing. You just don’t. It’s just too hard to pitch in the majors and very, very few just step in and are good right off the bat.
Edwar isn’t “young” but he completely revamped the way he pitched two years ago – that’s how long he’s been pitching with his change up.
That’s why the litany of comments about Hughes and Kennedy are just silly. You can say they haven’t pitched well but to say that they’re just over-hyped or not that good based on what we’ve seen is just silly.
You can’t make too many definitive inferences on how good or bad a young pitcher is who’s had success in the minors based on their first set of major league performances.
I was listening to Waldman and Sterling on my way home from losing my money
and at that point that had Mark Feisand on with them. Mark said that Karstens will be brought up and Britton will go down. He said that even though Karstens hasn’t done so well since he came back, the fact that he is coming back from an injury and the fact that he has major league experience make the Yanks feel okay about bringing him up.
So is that our long/middle relief? I guess we’ll have to see how he is used and what he has. If he can pull it together maybe he can graduate to the 8th inning…
maybe the yankees shouldn’t have passed on breslow on waivers.
That’s right, Matsui. Make this turkey work.
so far David Robertson
1.1 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 5 K’s
Inherited runners-scored: Robertson 1-0
Trisha,
If Edwar continues to pitch the way he has, Girardi will have to give him serious consideration for that 8th inning spot…
If Farnsworth gives up a couple more home runs it will happen…
Well, should be interesting
I have admired and respected everything that Jeter has represented to the Yankees these past 13 years, but somone has to start talking about the evident decline we are seeing (other than Steve Goldman). Even before the HBP, he was showing no power and inability to pull any ball with authority. More infuriating has been the near-complete evaporation of his plate discipline – he is swinging at nearly everything – his 683 OPS and OPS+ of 90 is putrid. With his average defensive ability, he needs to maintain at least an 800 OPS to be considered a leading SS.
On that DP opportunity in the 6th , Jeter did not turn the play well – he should have been in a better position to throw when he received the perfect throw from Giambi and then his throw was awful.
I am not suggesting the Yankees have a better alternative – in fact I don’t have any remedy (other than a forced DL visit or a couple of days off). But I do find it ridiculous that we all agonize about the struggles of Betemit in a very marginal and difficult part-time role while our captain is melting down in front of our eyes – it’s agonizing but I also feel he is getting a bit of a free pass.
“Mark said that Karstens will be brought up and Britton will go down.”
So did Girardi plan to use Britton in games where we were losing 15-2?
Let’s go Edwar! Continue to prove you can do it!
“maybe the yankees shouldn’t have passed on breslow on waivers.”
Do the waivers go in the order of current record?
CB,
Good point, and I generally try not to. I was a huge fan of Edwar when he came up last year, and think a lot of his early struggles were attributable to Torre’s non-use of him. Late in the year when he was getting hammered, it seemed like he was a one pitch wonder, as the change wasn’t fooling anyone, and he wasn’t “young” anymore. He really has turned it around and I couldn’t be happier. He seems like such a great kid.
On the other hand, I don’t want to give up on Hughes and Kennedy. They’ll take lumps, and it may mean losing some games, but I think both will come along.
Will Britton ever be given a chance? I have seen enough of Veras..He has good stuff but he is wild and has no idea where his pitches are going.
Is there a skinnier guy in the Major Leagues than ER? If I sat on his lap, I’d crush him.
Dynasty – I had a talk with Kyle and had to explain to him that we’re still in his corner but his proclivity for giving up homers has really compromised our ability to give him the green light for the 8th.
I trust putting Kyle in when we have at least a two-run lead. I really do. I am not sold anymore on sticking him in there with a one-run lead or a tie score. It doesn’t mean I don’t love or trust you Kyle. It just means that I have to be prudent when making managing decisions. Team first, always.
By the tway, it doesn’t mean that we won’t be able to count on him for 1-2-3 innings. Heck he had a whole string of scoreless IP. But since our place in the AL East isn’t where we need it to be, we need to be prudent.
dammit I knew it would be a righty
Oops
WEll, crap.
It wasn’t Edwar’s fault…Damon should have been taller…
Great time to be having a discussion about Edwar taking the 8th…
See ya!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Oh crap
I just pray that the Big G is kept away from these girls. The Midwest isn’t ready for that.
Jeter too Pete (though he’s from Midwest)
If the yankees lose this game it wont be anyones fault but Wangs…a 6-3 lead going into the 6th you need to step up and give your team one more scoreless inning instead he gives up 2 more runs.
The first run Edwar gives up and it ties the game. This reminds me of the Baltimore game when the Yanks kept blowing leads. The Yanks will just gave to score more runs.
boy the wind really got a hold of that one
There goes that 3 run lead
Nice. 6-3 Sux. The hell of it is that they had that game last night. Is there anyone who has a more stupid look on his face by nature than Melvin Mora?
He was due to make a bad pitch. No one can stay perfect through a season.
they, of course, is BMORE
Exactly what I just said about Ramirez… That is what happens when you put these AAA pitchers in more pressure situations. Hopefully the Yanks are going to bring up Cox or Robertson soon to see what they have because these pitchers aren’t going to get the job done. Awful pitching tonight, what have they given a run back every inning.
” Do the waivers go in the order of current record?”
twins are ahead of the yankees. yankees had first choice.
midwestern conservatives won’t like the long-haired punk from Cali
I guess we should just be glad that the Yankees have gotten over that “only scoring 2 runs a game” syndrome.
The Yankees have way too many guys wearing glasses
Cox – where art thou??
I blame no Yankee for anything. Life happens to all of them.
I blame the Sux for everything.
Can you imagine how it weighs on my conscience that I would actually like to see Papelsmear take a ball in the face?
With respect to lot of comments about Jeter, the real touch time will come when his contract comes up for negotiation in two and half years.
A-Rod got his 10 year contract.
Mo and Posada got their money as they are still good at their postions and had leverage.
Three years from now, Jeter’s skills will futher dimish and if he has high expectations on length of contract and/or yearly pay, it will be very ugly and he may face similar situation as Bernie.
“and think a lot of his early struggles were attributable to Torre’s non-use of him. ”
You know I really disagree with this. Ramirez’s primary problem last year was that he was still learning how to use his change up properly to get big league hitters out.
He threw way too many change ups and had poor control of his fastball.
This year he’s reversed the way he’s pitching (based at least in part on advice he got from Pedro Martinez and Mariano). He’s throwing many more fastballs and using the change up more selectively as his out pitch. It’s the exact opposite of the way he was utilizing his fastball and change last year.
Torre didn’t help him but Edwar was just not ready. Getting belted around in the majors forced him to learn how to pitch a different way.
That’s what developing pitchers have to go through.
The league is going to make adjustments against him – that’s going to happen – so we’ll have to see how that goes and what adjustments Edwar makes in response.
Hey, KC finally won a game. There is a God.
Edwar made one mistake. It happens. I am not sure why Girardi went to Veras because I think it was important to see how Edwar rebounded after giving up a gopher ball.
i knew this was going to happen. i said that edwar was going to give up HRs in the other post. Again, we are bearing the fruits of the Joba-less pen.
“I guess we should just be glad that the Yankees have gotten over that “only scoring 2 runs a game†syndrome.”
Good point.
CaptainsCorner –
What are you saying? This is what happens when you put AAA pitchers in big spots ok but then you say they should add more AAA pitchers lol
Do you think when Bitton gets called up he even joins the team?
Poor KC. I am happy for them. Can you imagine how bad that had to suck til they won one?
Yep, that’s the game
“I’m just curious, how are the other “ace worthy†pitchers pitching so far this year?”
Zambrano – 2.33
Peavy – 2.91
Webb – 3.01 (and dropping after tonight)
Santana – 3.41
Halladay – 2.93
And that’s not even including Lackey, Kazmir, Sheets or a couple of the other younger guys who are still establishing themselves as starters (Lincecum, Volquez, Shields).
My point, which was perhaps somewhat muddled, is that it IS stupid to declare someone a bust OR an ace after one (or two or three) bad/good starts. Yet that’s exactly what Peter did all throughout April when he strung together a couple of good starts.
However, whenever he has a bad couple of starts, these people are always the ones to claim, “It’s only one start”, or “It’s only April/May”.
Yes, these things ARE true….AND they were also true back in the beginning of the season when he was pitching really well too. It works both ways; unfortunately, you have a better chance of getting with Jessica Simpson than you do of getting a writer to admit he was wrong (or mistaken).
If it’s too early in May to be proclaiming whether he’s an ace or not (which for the record, I think it is; the season’s only 1/3 over – I’m basing my claim that Wang isn’t an ace mostly on his performance from 2006-2007, and not the first 2 months of this season ), then wasn’t it a bit premature to fit his crown after his first 3 or 4 starts in April?
But Peter and his ilk will never admit that they were perhaps premature in coronating him; instead, they’ll hypocritically trot out the “it’s still early” excuse, blithely unaware (or perhaps they are aware and just don’t care) that they were ignoring that very concept just weeks ago.
Tonyb, I agree with you but Girardi wants to win the game. And he’s shown to have very little patience (see Billy Traber).
Mark -
Nah.
Veras is really up in the zone
“I blame the Sux for everything.”
- Remember when it was the Boston fans who were obsessed with their rivals?
I don’t picture Veras getting anyone out this inning either..We shouldn’t expect anything else this year. With this AAA bullpen plus psycho Kyle the Yanks are going to give up a TON of runs from the 6-8 innings this year. Good job by the great Cashman. $200m and they have to use all AAA pitchers in the bullpen.
“twins are ahead of the yankees. yankees had first choice.”
In the standings right now, yes. Do waiver claims go in the order of the current standings?
Also, I really don’t understand why they hate Chris Britton so much. When he gets to pitch, he gets outs. They just don’t want to pitch him.
Im just in shock about how bad Wang has been…and you people need to lay off Jeter he is in a slump he isnt showing signs of being old…unreal how fast you people are to forget what he has done.
LadyBug is aware that edwar hadnt given up a run in nearly 16 innings right?
“Do you think when Bitton gets called up he even joins the team?”
Are you kidding? I don’t think he leaves his hotel room. He probably doesn’t even have a uniform.
Unbelieveable
Lets score some runs!
“Also, I really don’t understand why they hate Chris Britton so much. When he gets to pitch, he gets outs. They just don’t want to pitch him.”
Then they should just cut him loose. This constant calling him up with no intention of using him is cruel.
Mark – good point about britton. I bet if he didnt show up no one would even know. he probably just sits in his hotel in scranton, eating ice cream and watching movies until he gets the call that hes been sent back down.
“Tonyb, I agree with you but Girardi wants to win the game. And he’s shown to have very little patience (see Billy Traber).”
But for Farnsworth he shows too much patience…
Breslow isn’t that impressive he was released for a reason
5.40 BB9, 10.80 H/9, 1.08 HR/9
hey look! The Sux can hold a three run lead… WTF is up with the Yankee bullpen??!???!
Ladybug626,
I guess I just don’t see how Veras gives us any advantage over Edwar on the mound. Maybe I’m just not high on Veras – he has good stuff, but I don’t think he has great command.
Guess Wang is going to have to wait for another start before getting his next win… New record for Wang… hooray??
if someone ever wanted to meet Britton in person, the best idea might be to just hang out at the Scranton bus depot.
We need runs stat
To me Veras is another Bruney/Farnsworth – fastball pitcher with no offspeed stuff to keep hitters off balance.
“i knew this was going to happen. i said that edwar was going to give up HRs in the other post. Again, we are bearing the fruits of the Joba-less pen.”
Well, I’m guess you’re feeling quite good about yourself, aren’t you? Congratulations! You win!
I’d say the ‘fruits of a Joba-less pen’ are less important than the ‘fruits of a Joba-less rotation’.
Joba has allowed as many HRs this year as Edwar.
“I’m basing my claim that Wang isn’t an ace mostly on his performance from 2006-2007″
:-O His 38 wins with an ERA of 3.67 in the AL East isn’t #1 type production? Are you drunk?
“they have to use all AAA pitchers in the bullpen.”
Yes. paying for MLB players who suck would have been much better. Did you want him to sign some middle relievers on the wrong side of 30 to 4 year deals?
You know who consistently has a great pen? The Padres. You know how they build it? With a deep stable of AAA arms that they pick and choose from.
CB,
I agree that Edwar wasn’t ready last year, but early on in his call up, hitters were flailing at his change up, but then Torre let him sit for 10 days, which caused the big meltdown. After he came back and the league adjusted, he didn’t and basically showed he wasn’t quite ready.
As for the homer tonight, hard to blame him for one pitch. It was a long fly that just made the second row. It happens. The problem is when it happens repeatedly, a la with Kyle Farnsworth.
“What are you saying? This is what happens when you put AAA pitchers in big spots ok but then you say they should add more AAA pitchers lol”
I am saying that we should see what other pitchers have because these aren’t getting the job done. Veras is garbage, give Britton or someone else a chance.
man – when did the twins get Santana back??
hope big G didn’t hurt himself with that overly energetic swing!
At first last year I just thought Torre hated Britton, but it has carried over into this year.
blew a 6-3 lead to get a game over .500 agianst Boof, GEES
These Twins announcers are very excitable.
Noooooooooo!
“unreal how fast you people are to forget what he has done.”
How does what he has done somehow make him immune to getting old?
Well, think it is time to hit the sack
Tonight really feels like a loss.
Cano took 3 pitches
As Cano continues to swing blindfolded. It is time to sit him, he is like the pitcher hitting up there. Now with the psycho warming up the Yanks will hand the game to the Twins.
that cuddyer play was almost exactly like abreu’s except for the fact he ran, looked athletic, showed effort, and caught it.
has anyone seen Robby Cano
Now is a period during which they should and need to experiment with guys in the pen. Things are up in the air and they need to find out which guys fit.
Ramirez was bound to give up a HR at some point. You can’t make much out of that. It’s the first run he’s allowed. He also got exactly the kind of ground ball you wanted the inning before with runners on 1 and 3rd and then got out of the jam.
Veras – who knows. Great arm but whether he can make anything out of it is unclear.
If he’s not good they’ll send him down and bring up Patterson.
Lost a game to the Rays and Sox
I agree, from last year to this year for Cano, like night and day
The Yanks need to find a way to win this game
when was the last time jose molina hit a homer?
Robinson Cano
I never saw a pitch I didn’t like.
If I take the first pitch, I need to swing at the next two, wherever they are!!!
“Remember when it was the Boston fans who were obsessed with their rivals?”
I’m assuming your a pretend Yankee fan since you just appeared on the scene out of nowhere. But it still gives me a chance to say with pride that I’ve loathed the Sux since I was knee high to a grasshopper. And since that takes in at least a few of the years between the Sux drought between 1918 and 2004, while the Yankees instead managed to become the face of baseball, you can bet it’s borne of nothing more than wanting to see them crushed like the little bugs that they are, 24-7, 162 games/year, year after year after year.
Veras has had a WHIP under 1 in AAA and the majors this year. great K:BB ratio. He’s given up some long balls, though. It’s still only been 11 innings. Seems early to declare him useless. He basically had two crappy outings against Baltimore.
wow – when did we turn into the Royals?
I think that the wind has been taken out of the Yankees sails.
CB – I was beginning to think I was alone.
Molina
“Well, think it is time to hit the sack”
PLEASE do. And don’t come back. All you do is complain about every single thing that happens. If something good happens, you act like it’s a lucky surprise. Why do you even come here?
“Lost a game to the Rays and Sox”
Who?
This game is not over yet and Yanks will win this game.
Who was it that said Veras had no breaking pitch?
“Why do you even come here?”
For the attention that he’s apparently not getting at home.
i’m pretty sure that waivers go by the present standings.
… and if that’s how the rules go, the yankees might as well take advantage of being in last place while they can.
breslow is interesting because he’s a lefty, throws 90-91 , and has a 2. 75 or so lifetime era (in limited innings)
and being as smart as he is, you’d think he’d get better as he feeds his experience into his game.
but what do the twins know? they’re barely over .500 with that 50 million they spend.
Big Papi taken out of the game while hitting with a full count.
Must be HGH withdrawal symptoms.
May be it is time to trade Phil Hughes and Kennedy for SEA’s Brandon Morrow.
“when was the last time jose molina hit a homer?”
September 5 2007
Did Molina K?
Andddddddddddddddddddddd this proves my point that the Yankees need a true ace *ehem Joba*
Hopefully he will become just that.
Meanwhile, I have to say that when the Yanks show the commercial of their great games, including the no hitters, I still get flippin chills every time they show Aaron bleepin Boone. I have been absolutely blown away by many games, as well as many individual plays (such as Jeter’s shovel pass against the A’s in the postseason and his dive into the stands against the hideous Sux), but I think the moment that still takes my breath away is when Boone hit that homer into outer space.
What do I know, the Big Papi injury mught be from the rigors of DHing.
“Robinson Cano
I never saw a pitch I didn’t like.”
Cano is hitting .220 now. He’s seeing 3.4 pitches per at bat this season.
Last year he hit .306. He saw 3.4 pitches per at bat.
The year before he hit .342. He saw 3.2 pitches per at bat.
yes JOSE !
Someone wrote earlier that Veras does not have good secondary pitches. Those sliders look very good in addition to that good fast ball. If he develops good control, he would be very helpful.
Good job Jose Veras!
ps…wow, Casilla isn’t on base. cool.
I’d like to see Patterson pitch up here. Get him a chance.
And the announcers would have lots to discuss about his “fall off the mound” delivery. Love it!
Scottie’s a good guy and it would be fun to see what he can do.
Finally, they get that Casilla guy out. I was tied of seeing him on base.
Humm…wait and see
Good job Veras
Hmmm, 6-6, looks like I didn’t miss much.
I wonder if Wang should have just accepted his Cy Young when he got to 6-0 and shut it down. Bah. I think the bad luck started when he was the “first pitcher since Doc Gooden to….”
Time for some 9th inning heroics!
If you’re talking about time-traveling bunnies, then yes!
What is your point CB? He stinks this year so far
Afterall
It was quite a swing, and then again Ortiz missed the ball the ball completely, so I guess it was a good reason for an injury, and for Ortiz to come out of the game.
Gardenhire better stop tampering with Molina, i’m just saying.
Was 6-3 and Wanger gave it up
Veras has a fantastic curve ball.
What he hasn’t had is good command, especially of his fastball.
That’s what’s going to decide his future. He has outstanding stuff but whether he can harness it is the question.
Yeah Melky!!!! Way to start Yankees!!!
Mmmm, not only that, but Britton is making at least the MLB minimum right? 300-400k is pretty good since I’m assuming a good deal of their meals and boarding is paid for…
And MLB groupies am I right?
last chance — someone get in a run (on the Yankees)
This is the typical game that the Yanks cannot win…a close game on the road, maybe extra innings. They just don’t have the heart and guts to come up with the big hit and get the tough outs like Boston has done in Baltimore. Which piece of garbage Yankee reliever will get the loss tonight…any predictions?
CB
Impressive stats.
The pitchers obviously have figured out Robinson Cano, maybe it’s time for Cano to re-adjust.
Waaaaaaaaaaiiiiiiiiiit a second, Chris Britton is being sent down again? Is this fact?
“when was the last time jose molina hit a homer?”
September 5th, 2007.
Why? He’s a backup catcher, so it’s not like he’s really -expected- to jack all that many.
V
May 31st, 2008 at 10:22 pm
“when was the last time jose molina hit a homer?â€
September 5th, 2007.
Why? He’s a backup catcher, so it’s not like he’s really -expected- to jack all that many.
——————-
just askin’ … What – I can’t ask questions now?
—Chris Britton still has Girardi’s dog at gunpoint apparently. He has a good job. He gets to stay in nice hotels, eat the free food and he never has to actually pitch.
—How much are they paying him anyway?
“What do I know, the Big Papi injury mught be from the rigors of DHing.”
Yeah it’s gotta take a ton of energy to lug that fat ass off the bench every three innings. He probably has a butt cheek rash.
bunt
“The pitchers obviously have figured out Robinson Cano, maybe it’s time for Cano to re-adjust.”
The point I was trying to make is that there is no correlation between how many pitches Cano takes and his batting average.
Whether he’s hitting or not he sees the same number of pitches.
So I’m not sure what adjustment pitchers are making.
good rally killin gob damon
did Melky miss a hit n run or did they take it away ..
why did they take the hit and run off? or did he just get a bad jump?
bad baseball
bad
bad
bad
There you go Damon
here come’s Mr. DL/instant out himself Capt. Jeter!
the minnesota announcers just said “jeter has been very quiet in this series” haha
“Should’ve gone that time.”
But Michael, what about the fallacy of the predetermined outcome???
who pitches the 9th?
“why did they take the hit and run off? or did he just get a bad jump?”
Bad jump.
Unfortunately, Johnny fouled off a ball on the previous pitch, would have been an easy SB for Melky.
Why wasnt Melky running??!!! This team is terrible.. That is exactly why the Yanks cant win games like this. Damon cant bunt then ofcourse you get the DP. I guess it doesnt matter because Jeter cant hit anyway so he never would of got the runner over.
Ready? For what?
Farnsy
Can’t get a bunt down
LOFL Andrew… good call.
Well, there goes the game. Back to under .500
This team screws up on the most fundamental plays and it kills them in close games like tonight. You have to be running on that pitch if you’re not going to be bunting anymore. No bunt and a double play because he didn’t run. Just awful baseball.
Doesn’t matter who pitches in the 9th, does it?
20 bucks says the twins walk off in the 9th vs farnsworth
I’m sensing a Kyle Farnsworth-surrendered walk-off home run.
“Why wasnt Melky running??!!! This team is terrible.. That is exactly why the Yanks cant win games like this. Damon cant bunt then ofcourse you get the DP. I guess it doesnt matter because Jeter cant hit anyway so he never would of got the runner over.”
Are you watching the game? He got a bad jump on that pitch.
Quit being so negative Last Yankee Fan, gees
Wow, game’s not even over and the whiners are already starting.
good job capt. Now how about that DL Jetes?
GET YOUR GLOVES OUT MINNY !
CB
Obviously if your stats on Cano are correct, the pitchers he is facing are not giving him the same pitches to hit he has the past few years.
Mauer, Morneau, and Cuddyer.
Pick your poison Farnsy.
Captain Stinker
Jetere K’s, what? Darn trolls, get off of here, we will win
Jeter obviously went to the Cano school of hitting where you swing at everything in sight. Girardi how about a day off tomorrow for the pathetic Jeter who cant hit and cost them a run in the game.
Farns isn’t exactly Mr. Instill Confidence.
The Fallacy of Predetertimed Farnsworth?
I hope not.
Joe Nathan has always been a reliable pitcher for Minny.
So okay, we’ll have to get them in the 10th.
GO YANKEES!!!
I just have a bad feeling about this game. Hopefully, it will turn out I am wrong about that.
Farnsy will K the side on 9 pitches…
Time for the psycho to hand the game over…Oh sorry I meant attempt to pitch
Is the game over yet?
Check it out.
Kyle will save this game and get us into the 10th.
YA GOTTA HAVE FAITH.
“Obviously if your stats on Cano are correct, the pitchers he is facing are not giving him the same pitches to hit he has the past few years.”
Not necessarily. His mechanics could be off.
It could be a combination of both.
Making a big deal about how many pitches cano takes or does not take each at bat may not matter to how well he hits.
It’s probably not the number of pitches – it’s the type of pitches.
“Jeter obviously went to the Cano school of hitting where you swing at everything in sight. Girardi how about a day off tomorrow for the pathetic Jeter who cant hit and cost them a run in the game.”
While that might sound right in your head, it’s quite wrong, in reality.
He struck out on 7 pitches, taking 3 balls.
‘Swing at everything in sight’ is not quite what I’d take out of that.
Strike 1
Will it start with a walk, double, homerun??
Oh no, its Farnsworth.
I wonder who will hit a homer against him?
The Yanks should put the outfielders in the stands.
I’d rather see Mo against this part of the lineup.
“Farnsy will K the side on 9 pitches…”
already wrong since he threw ball 1
I say a double, then an HR
I feel good about Farnsworth today… May the power be with him…. LET’S GO YANKEES…….
actually, if he prevents any runs and the yanks score in the 10th, and then he pitches a scoreless inning, he’d get the win, not the save.
what’s the shame about the last at-bat by Jeter is that he got a break. He didn’t foul tip the 2-2 pitch, he actually swung through. the ball actually hit the catcher’s mask, not Jeter’s bat. So DJ couldn’t come thru on the 2nd try.
Time to hold hands and pray
Dang, first time I been wrong all year
Told ya so!
Enjoy watching this gutless, fundamentally inept team struggle all season long!
Gonna be a fun end to this ballgame!
“Not necessarily. His mechanics could be off.”
This is what I think is wrong. He’s not swinging right. He was doing well for a short stretch, then reverted to his early slumping ways.
Brandon-
You get my message about Brayan Pena?
pepto time
Watching Farns pitch takes years off your life
V, you have to get used to the fact that there are posters here who are pitch-by-pitch lemon suckers. They are okay when the Yankees have a 12-run lead but anything less than that turns them into zooloos.
“The Yanks should put the outfielders in the stands.”
^^LOL! Classic
stop stretching latroy!
I say a walk
GO KYLE!!!
Hard to believe Farnsworth is back out there.
Girardi was supposedly going to manage based on performance and results.
If a second or third year pitcher pitched like Farnsworth has he would be buried in Girardi’s dog house.
He gets used because he’s a veteran. And he throws 98.
Ok, nice for everyone to get their “we’re scared of farnsy” jokes in, and really, why shouldn’t we, but now he’s going to get through this inning!
bye bye, mauer!
C’mon Farnsworth…2 more…
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
Farnsy
“V, you have to get used to the fact that there are posters here who are pitch-by-pitch lemon suckers. They are okay when the Yankees have a 12-run lead but anything less than that turns them into zooloos.”
LOL, I just call ‘em ‘idiots’.
Hey, watch that, nice play by Giambi.
What do you guys want? The Hawkman?
Was that Giambi or Mattingly?
Go Yanks!!!!
Farnsy + Giambi Defense = Lockdown
Anyone else feeling like 9-6 Yankees after back-to-back HRs from ARod and Matsui?
“Told ya so!
Enjoy watching this gutless, fundamentally inept team struggle all season long!
Gonna be a fun end to this ballgame!
”
Why are you so disappointed in your Twins?
Kyle got away with a hanging slider to Morneau on an 0-2 count. Not good when Giambi has to bail you out with a nice play.
lol
THAT WAS A HORRIBLE 0-2 PITCH TO MORNEAU, WTF WAS HE THINKING !
you sit down, too, justin!
BLOW them AWAY Farnsy… ATTA BOY….
“Hard to believe Farnsworth is back out there.
Girardi was supposedly going to manage based on performance and results.”
Girardi thinks like a baseball player and a manager. You think like a fan. His results have been actually quite good, and his pitching has been really good. A bad pitch here and there has gotten him into trouble. A few pitches are not enough to make Girardi quake, though they do to a lot of Yankee posters.
GO KYLE!
THAT’S MY KYLE!!!
A Rod hitting a HR in a meaningful situation, come on V,,,,we all want what you been drinking
We need to score here. Badly.
I would like to sign up for a 9-6 win
Now that’s more like it!!!!
Now we score and go to Mo!!!!
It is time for all those Kyle whiners to find some good tasting crow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wow, Farnsy did okay.
go get ready to play the field, michael.
Is it safe to look?
Nice inning by Farns
Nice job by Kyle.
Let’s go Yanks. Win it in the 10th.
HOLY HECK
Farnsy did the 1-2-3
Wow – I Heard someone say on here when he takes them down 1-2-3 that means the yankees will win – haha
I certainly hope we can get something going now so we can bring in Mo (crossing fingers) !!
I love Trisha!!
Farnsworth made it through.
Whee what a good outing.
they freakin better….just came home from a big fat juicy steak at Ruth’s Chris, thought we’d be done by now! wow
This will be another good win for us fellas… YANKEES!!!! Giambi will get us a run or two….
great job farnsy! and on back to back days… props to you!
Farnsy + Giambi Defense x Damon’s throwing arm / 2 = World Championship (squared).
I will bet Pete’s house, here and now, A Rod doesn’t get on base. He will K or ground out
whew! I see that it is.
get to work boys
I don’t care how he got that out, we just finished listening to Kay say Girardi didn’t like last night’s 0-2 location, he had him fishing all AB on 0-2 he throws one inside again . WTF WAS HE THINKING, he’s lucky Morneau didn’t get a short sroke on that
THANK YOU PUMA FOR THE 1B DEFENSE
Like I said CB, Maybe the opposing teams have Cano figured out and he needs to re-adjust. In my opinion he definitely has the physical talent, but not impressed with his approach to the game. Any comparisons of Cano made to Rod carew is a farce, Carew was brilliant, a student of the game, Cano very immature and continues to make the same mistakes in the field and at bat.
It’s probably not the number of pitches – it’s the type of pitches.
ok, can we PLEASE have an extra innings win on the road? Just this once?
REYES??? Isn’t he the one that blew away the game yesterday??? I smell BLOOD!!!
here comes the dinger…
the minnesota announcer just said “this is the 6th extra inning game for the twins” then showed they have a 4-3 record in extra inning games…i thought 4 and 3 equaled 7??
haha i think that’s what he said anyway…maybe i misheard it.
C’mon Arod – let’s get something going.
UH OH – Olendorf is warming up.
LOL @ all the ’staches on the Yankees. Now Ohlendorf has one.
“It is time for all those Kyle whiners to find some good tasting crow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”
Where were you yesterday when he got taken deep?
Farnsworth has the highest home run rate for any pitcher in the major leagues this year.
And he got away with a mistake that inning that he was lucky didn’t get hit out.
He’s not having a good year. His performance has returned to what it was last year when he was unusable.
that was a terrible strike call
Anyone else think this pitcher Reyes is Peter’s long lost brother?
Brandon, I am totally in agreement. That 0-2 pitch could have easily been the game. Mistakes like that keep kyle from finishing hitters.
“A Rod hitting a HR in a meaningful situation, come on V,,,,we all want what you been drinking”
Lol, I don’t think you wanna.
Started with a Frangelico sour before dinner, had a Vodka+Sprite while eating pizza, and have a long island iced tea now (not super-strong, filled up with Coke and sour mix)
Good one Jeff NJ….
Farsy + Giambi Defense = WordPress Error
good AB
Olendorf has a stache? OK I am feeling better about him warming up –
PLEASE HIDECKI PLEASE! Drive in the Game winning RBI PLEASE!
GIAMBINO for the go ahead run… just saw it in my crystal ball..
how do you say “get a hit” in japanese?
what a jump by a rod
“If A Rod homers, I will never blog again”
What will be your new name?
It is hard to beleive you give up the sadistic pleasure you get with all your negative posting here.
a-rod showin’ the wheels
w00t, ARod’s 4th SB of the week.
Remember when everyone was whining earlier in the season at the Yankees not running?
I think Ross must have saved Joe’s dog from Britton.
F-ing…. Blegh.
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
BALK!!! On the replay, that looks like a balk!!
there goes our usual STUPID A-ROD
“Anyone else think this pitcher Reyes is Peter’s long lost brother?”
Hehe.
But I swear – you are seeing in Reyes why Girardi isn’t using Britton. If your chunky, your slow and if your slow runners steal bases on you.
wo in one week we’ve seen 2 bad baserunning plays
good job arod on that base running blunder. SHEEEESH – You gotta be kidding me – bad bad bad bad move! Now we have NO ONE on base – thanks man!
another pick-off! arrgghh
Ugh!
日本語-homerun
A-Rod had the right idea, he just left the base too soon.
terrific. lets see who is gonna pitch – farnsy or olendorf
I’m taking a Tylenol right now
ok, lets bash the next pitcher who’s coming in…
c’mon… get it out…before he throws his first pitch.
quick.
I actually like the aggressiveness of Alex trying to take third. If he gets in there, he can score the go-ahead run on an out. Matsui is one of the better situational hitters the Yankees have, and I’d trust him to drive a sac fly. It didn’t work out, but it’s not a horrible play imo.
Great job by $28m. He was already at 2nd did he really need to try for 3rd. If you are going to go you better make it..What an idiot decision that was.
well how much did that suck???
I am laughing my a** off at your pathetic, choking team!
This is so incredibly fun to watch…
Because you are a little leaguer Russ. Deal with it loser.
Hmmm. I’d get Ollie in only because Farns has had two nights in a row now and you don’t want to push your luck and overuse him. But since he didn’t throw a lot of pitches last inning, Joe just might get him back out there. Hope there is someone warming no matter who goes in.
Like I said, this team has bad fundamentals. They beat themselves. You’re already in scoring position for the league’s leading hitter with a 2-0 count on him. At least give him one swing. You know he’s going to be watching you after you stole the other base on first move you have to be more careful.
If this team would stop making these stupid mistakes out there on the bases they would be winning at least 2 or 3 more games that they have lost this year. Melky not running on Damon’s DP ball and A-Rod picked off. You’d think that with 4 chances that somebody would get that run in if it didn’t get erased by stupid plays.
STUPID…STUPID…STUPID… Just thinking of himself becoming a hero… STUPID…STUPID…STUPID… no brain at all… to all parents out there… please don’t buy your kids a copy of A-ROD book…
CaptainsCorner
You don’t steal third with no or two outs. With one out, it was a good idea. If he makes it, A-Rod scores on a sac fly. Can’t kill him for that. Sometimes bad results happen from the right decision.
GET THEM GLOVES OUT !
“Why do I put up w/this Little League team, why?”
The Yankees are like the mafia.
Just when you think you’re out, they pull you back in.
Olendorf before Britton makes absolutely no sense? What is that 5 homeruns in his last 3 appearances?
æ„šã‹- stupid
I think Ollie will be better than he has been in a while. (I know, it’s not going to be hard…)
This game is probably a lost cause.
A-Rod had the right idea, he just left the base too soon.
Dumb comment. That’s like excusing someone who drops a flyball because “he had the right idea, he just closed his glove too soon”.
Awful play. Two chances for one hit to bring him in, and with one boneheaded play it’s all gone.
Wow, the hordes of whiners are going at it yet again.
Why don’t you all just pop in your 2004 World Series DVDs and go away?
well… ross “homer” ohlendorf is pitching … yay!!
“I am laughing my a** off at your pathetic, choking team!”
I’m laughing at you watching us, looking for the link of our team site
fingers crossed
“This game is probably a lost cause.”
Laura, I can’t believe you’re giving up!
Laura, the game isn’t over yet. We’re lucky in that the Twins are too anxious and swinging at everything. We’ve still got a game.
The biggest criticism many have had with this offense is that it sits back and just waits for stuff to happen. I actually agree with that. The Yankees were trying to find a way to manufacturer the go ahead run there. Hard to blame A-Rod for making an aggressive play that didn’t work.
Bullpen doing its job tonight… Looking good.
Sun Devils up 3-0
GAME OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Man how lucky are we…
oh my…
No harm, no foul.
phewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww….
oh my bad!! I thought that was a homerun
wow
well, at least it wasn’t a homer
Olendorf tried to make it another homerun. What an awful pitch…He should be working on his pitches in the minors.
I do -not- like this IBB. At all.
i dont like this move….
watch for the squeeze?
Big break there…gotta get just one more out…
C’mon Ohlendorf!
why are they Walking the #9 hitter??
why are they Walking the #9 hitter??
Yeah this doesn’t seem like a smart move. Too bad they can’t get Rivera in there now… He’s going to pitch the next inning anyway if there is one.
zach, I hear ya, but we have to hope that the move works out.
walking the 9th hitter ???
sunny, Girardi is playing the percentages again.
“Laura, I can’t believe you’re giving up!”
Sorry to disappoint you. This just doesn’t feel like one of those games that we are going to pull out of the fire.
what percentages ladybug?
Let’s go Russ O. just one good pitch and we’ll win this one… EEVERYBODY now LET’s GO YANKEES!!!!
They should of pitched to Punto..That walk didn’t make alot of sense considering how fast Gomez is.
Wow. It worked.
got him! wow!
Yeah!!!!!!!!
And it finally worked
OMFG I THINK I FARTED ON THAT ONE
Gomez shows soooo much “flair” when he strikes out.
V – an amazing bunch of babies aren’t they?
Nothing like keeping the faith!
Nice job Ohly, ok Yankees enough playing around let’s score some runs and bring in Mo.
In hindsight… Gomez is a young hitter more inclined to swing at balls in the dirt…
Now, we MUST win this game!!!!
Big K!! I knew it all along. no problem.
It worked so I’m not going to debate it. All i can say is Thank freakin’ God!
Dodged a bullet there.
I haven’t seen that in a LONG time, a bat snap like that. But seriously, this feels like Russian roulette with relief pitchers. Just let Mo pitch the next two innings.
because he is a lefty
Ohlendorf escapes that one. He actually struck out the side with a little drama in between.
I hope that’s all it was, Brandon.
get a run somehow.
Now we just need a run or two and then turn it over to Mo!
Why is a game on May 31st giving me an ulcer? lol
Man, can this team be frustrating to watch.
That was way too close for comfort.
Would someone PLEASE flat out ask Joe Girardi:
WHY IS CHRIS BRITTON NOT ALLOWED TO PITCH???????
that indeed was a flatulence inducing series of pitches
“They should of pitched to Punto..That walk didn’t make alot of sense considering how fast Gomez is.”
Actually this is very elementary baseball CaptainsCorner. Nick Punto has been in the majors for three years. Gomez is a rookie. Got it?
For all the whining here, Girardi knew what he was doing when he ordered IBB and decided to pitch to the rookie Gomez.. See how bad he looked stiking out.
sunny, when a manager plays “the percentages” that means that he is betting that the hitter with the less experience and/or lower batting avg will get the out. They wanted to pitch to Gomez because he’s very young and the chance (or percentage) of him getting an out is very high.
No word yet on Big Porkey
He is getting his wrist X-Rayed.
lefties are hitting .344 vs. Russ O. reason for the IBB
i’m ok with giving up the monster triple ONLY when it doesn’t score any runs and that guy gets stranded!
Cano HR time
LivefromNY – I seriously think Britton isn’t in the fold because he’s not in shape. Girardi is a stickler for fitness and the only player not fit is Britton. That’s the only reason I can think of.
“No word yet on Big Porkey”
LAUGHING MY BUTT OFF!!!
what a rally by the Yankee offense… PATHETIC
Jose can you see…the ball?
What is Cano’s avg now? Is he on the Interstate again?
we need a freakin run here
Cano is awful
jeezus lord, can cano see a pitch without swinging at the bloody thing??
If Cano hits a HR, it’ll be on the first pitch.
I would have pinch hit Shelley Duncan for one of these hitters (Cano, Molina) just hoping he can run in to a pitch… The Yankees aren’t going to be able to last much longer without a run.
“They should of pitched to Punto..That walk didn’t make alot of sense considering how fast Gomez is.”
Gomez is striking out 25% of all of his at bats. That’s an extraordinarily high rate.
It was a risk given his speed. But at the same time he doesn’t make consistent contact and Ohlendorf is a strike out pitcher.
I would not pitch Ohlendorf a second inning.
It’s puzzling why Girardi just will not pitch Chris Britton at all.
who is pitching next inning?
lefty , lefty power, lefty power
Ross your on your own
Joe Girardi is a smart manager (although the Britton question remains). If the Bad News Bears ever figure it out, things will be okay.
Mauer, first homerun of the year coming up next inning. Book it.
Uh oh, the dreaded 2nd inning for Ohly coming up. I think he’ll handle it today though. Better him than Hawkins, let Hawkins hang with the bear.
Pete- Low blow with the blind joke. Especially with the guy being dead. Just wrong.
blah blah blah, blah blah blah, blah blah blah
Our big concern is – who pitches each inning.
If Ollie is out there I don’t think it should be for more than one more inning. I hope he gets it done and then someone gets a blast at the top of the inning and Mo shuts it out.
Of course that would be very nice wouldn’t it.
I would be immensely surprised by a 1-2-3 here.
For all Mike and the Mad Dog ridiculous whining about Joba you think those two morons would ask Girardi about Britton. But no. They’re dopes.
we’re going to ohlendorf again?????
NNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
This is usually where The Dorf falters. Get the first out!
Oh my…Ross in his 2nd inning. Bad idea.
Another one for Ross? Oh dear
Girardi should be happy that Olendorf got out of that inning…Having him pitch another inning is asking too much. This year Olendorf has been awful pitching more then 1 inning.
take him out…
PLEASE don’t put the leadoff hitter on…
thats the ballgame folks
Ohlendorf is going to blow it right here.
I hate saying it but its just a bad feeling I have.
Playin’ with fire with Ross in 2 innings.
Base hit.
Game over.
I’d pull Ross right now
this game is over how you leave him in for another inning is beyond me
I admit I am not a fan of Ollie for two innings. I hope he gets it done. Best I can say.
You guys nervous?
Don’t be. The Yankees cannot win an extra-inning game on the road. So relax and enjoy your team’s futility.
I know I will!
That Casilla guy is annoying the heck out of me.
well, you don’t have to worry about taht surprise anymore
need a dp here
Give the chubby kid from Scranton a chance!
Ohlendorf terrible as usual
clutch, the Sox sure had problems with the Mariners.
Britton is obviously really not liked because he should be pitching this inning. You would think Girardi has seen what everyone has…that Olendorf is a 1 inning pitcher and that is all!!!
already after one inning his pitches are up in the zone.
It seems that Ohlendorf is good for one inning only. Why does Girardi continue to run him out there for more than one inning.
is it safe to open my eyes now??
The game is tied on the road in extra innings.
The heart of the order is up.
And Mariano is still in the bull pen.
This is strictly by the book managing by Girardi.
These are the highest leverage outs of the game.
No LH pitcher is going to kill this team
V, ignore “crotch” I mean “clutch” like everyone else is. Pete doesn’t want us talking to Yankee groupies.
is anyone up in the pen?
Is anyone even warming up?
It feels like we’re approaching End Times.
Come on Ross!!
the Redsux have won 3 titles in 90 years!!! So shut up and leave this is a 26 time WS Champs blog…you are not welcome!
LOL!
Boston just wins an extra-inning game on the road last night and now NY loses another one. How fun is that?
omg girardi get him out nowwwwwww
Remember in the offseason when girardi sent out the message that everyone must be in shape for spring training? Britton obviously didnt listen, could that be a reason why he isnt used?
he is going to walk him…watch.
Seven straight is pretty bad. Wasn’t it only a few seasons ago that they led the league in come-from-behind wins?
Do we have anyone warming? Just curious.
Ollie is good for only 1 inning….here he is at #2….Hmmm, can you say ” The Yankees have lost EIGHT straight extra-inning games on the road by the way. ” ???..I know I can…ba bye !
“Give the chubby kid from Scranton a chance!”
Albaladejo is injured.
this is torture
Ugh, is anyone up in the bullpen?
He has nothing right now. Nothing.
Get him the F out of the game now, I would say…
GREAT OHLENDORK THE SAVIOR
Ohly doesn’t have it tonight….
Good night. Drive home safely.
why is olly olly all come in free still in there?
hooray… bullpen rules!
I think Girardi has given up on this game.
Be afraid . . . be very afraid . . .
This is painful to watch. NO ONE is warming up. A walk.
Come on Girardi.
Its just giving the game away. I hope I’m wrong.
Well at least Rivera kept the bullpen chair warm today.
The fat lady is warming up. The fat bullpen pitcher (Britton) is not.
This made no sense..instead of seeing what Britton has he will leave Olendorf out there to dry. He is clearly done after getting out of there alive the last inning.
“The game is tied on the road in extra innings.
The heart of the order is up.
And Mariano is still in the bull pen.
This is strictly by the book managing by Girardi.
These are the highest leverage outs of the game.
”
Mariano pitched last three games. Unless absolutely needed to save the game, you do not burn him out.
I hope Ras can go 9 tomorrow. Or 10.
My sources tell me Chris Britton pulled a Ricky Vaughn and slept with Joe’s wife by accident.
I would bring in Mo here. Have him pitch for two innings and then take your chances with Britton if necessary. Don’t let Ohlendorf piss it away slowly.
He just walked him, now I’m getting mad. He doesn’t have it, Joe, he went to three ball counts on the first two batters! Get him outta there!
another loss… thanks girardi.
Wow! When will someone realize that this guy is not a major league pitcher?
This is just too enjoyable!
Watching the inevitable happen again….
There isn’t a more pathetic, gutless team in all of baseball. NY just gives up once the game gets to extra innings!
Please send Ohlendorf down to AAA !!!!
Igawasbuckteeth – seriously we get in trouble if we respond to those idiots. Pete has a fit if we answer trolls and groupies. If we could answer I would have asked crotch if his mama was still pitching for the Yankees when he asked which garbage reliever the Yanks would be using…
You know Pete’s earlier post about luck…if we get out of this we’ll be lucky indeed!
Why is Britton on the roster?
Why?
Seems that Ohlendorf is going to need a Total Recall brain erasing to forget the painful year this has been for him. He constantly takes one for the team.
“I would bring in Mo here. Have him pitch for two innings and then take your chances with Britton if necessary. Don’t let Ohlendorf piss it away slowly.
He just walked him, now I’m getting mad. He doesn’t have it, Joe, he went to three ball counts on the first two batters! Get him outta there!”
And when Mo’s arm falls off, you’d have a nice rest of the season in your vacation home, right?
I’m scared to look
Da melk.
“They literally dodged a bullet there”
Literally? I guess I missed more on my bathroom break than I thought.
Ok one out. A Little light at the end of the tunnel.
How come no one has asked Girardi why he won’t pitch Britton? Pete, get on it!
Girardi is doing a great job guys… who else do you want out there at this time?
I love all the loser Redsux fans that have nothing better to do on a saturday night they talk ish on a yankee blog
its going to be sad once the all star game comes around and the yankees aren’t in the playoff hunt.
what a sad, pathetic way to close out the house that ruth built. all thanks to cashman the non-genius boy, lover of “prospects”
“Literally? I guess I missed more on my bathroom break than I thought.”
I wonder if he is pitching him 2 innings because he wants to try and stay away from Mo tonight. He has pitched alot recently and if he is not available then Britton is the only pitcher left and he doesn’t want to go to him.
“Ok one out. A Little light at the end of the tunnel.”
Or perhaps the light at the end of the tunnel is a train coming straight at us…
The Dorf!
C’mon Princeton boy!
One more to go!!!!
please,one more out.
Tension City. Ulcer brewing. Come on Ross.
Ugh, another lefty…
Even if he didn’t go, that damn pitch was over the plate.
Hawkins is left
Any more calls for Britton and I’ll start to think we are reliving 2007. Britton is ok, nothing special, certainly not a savior of any type. Oh and Joe will probably try and get him during some games that are not 6-6 in the 11th with two on. Next inning is Mo’s if you ask me.
Long Day’s Journey Into a Nervous Breakdown.
Where do all these trolls come from? Its pathetic.
I would love it if Ohlendorf proved me wrong…..
Two huge outs after the first two got on. Ohlendorf certainly doesn’t bore anybody while watching him, he keeps us on the edge of our seats!
up and in right here
I’m naming my first child The Dorf. Just “The Dorf”.
Ross Ohlendorf nominated to be the new ‘Cardiac Kid’
I think this is a game Girardi created. It’s called see how close Olendorf can get to blowing the game. In his first inning, he got within two feet. So now, Girardi has to send him out for a 3rd inning. But this time, it gets harder. Olendorf has to get a base runner mowed down when he’s one foot away from the plate in order to beat his previous best of 2 feet.
AWESOME!
Dorfman does it!
OH THANK GOODNESS
Your wishes will come true, Briton will pitch 12th unless Yanks score in which case it will be MO.
Yeeeessssssssss!!!!!!!!!!
there are miracles lol
Thank god. I could not have taken another at-bat with Ollie pitching.
Talk about on the edge of your seat. I thought they should have brought in someone like Britton after he walked Mauer but he got out of it somehow.
wow this has turned into a classic. Great hoodini act by Ohlendorf in both the 10th and 11th. I think if the Yankees can win this one, the momentum will carry them to a 4 game sweep.
Ohlendorf doing his best Farnsworth immitation and he wigglrs out of it
Ohly… I respectfull eat my words.
Nice job getting out of that inning.
I just soiled myself. lol
i hope mo is warming because that was just gut wrenching
Now to overstate the obvious, the Yankees better find a way to score this inning. You can’t dodge bullets forever when you’re in a confined space…
KIMBO SLICE is about to kill someone on CBS
I forgot Hawkins is left..Farns twin.
Ohlendorf survives under pressure!!!!
Giambi should take Ross out tonight. I’m sure he knows the spots.
I believe they will put some outfielders in to pitch before they put in Britton.
Hawk up next.
Maybe we’ll get Hawkins next inning
WHY HIM , WE NEED RUNS NOW !
Man, there are lot of pasty looking people in Minnesota. Get some sun people!
Despite tonight’s loss, at least there’s one cause for celebration—-Jeff Karstens won’t be up
okay lets wave our hands over this Yankee offense and exorcise their bats….
If I didn’t want to win this game so much, I would love to see Britton come in and blow it on the first pitch just to shut some of you up.
Hawkins is warming up. God help us all!
Dodged sevaral bullets that inning……Still a very impressive performance..Well done Ollie, now lets get some runs….Does Britton come in next ????
I’ll tell you what, it definitely isn’t perfect or for the faint of heart, but Ohlendorf has shown a lot of moxie and a lot of guts for being able to get out of these two jams. He’s doing exactly what he needs to be doing, extending the game and giving the Yankee offense another opportunity to break through. Nicely done.
Kids, don’t start with negative bullsh*t about LaTroy because we don’t need negative karma here. Kay?
Who is left in the pen?
Just Mo, Hawkins, and Britton, right?
I have a feeling that if the Yanks don’t score here, they might lose this one.
I am glad that I was wrong. Ohlendorf escapes.
Let’s go Yankees.
Need to score here and get Mo in, if Hawkins comes in, then we all know the result.
“You can’t dodge bullets forever when you’re in a confined space…”
If the Yankees signed Keanu Reeves to a minor league deal, I believe they actually could.
Here comes to another reliever pitcher make my heart stop.
Hawkins, yes!!
Trisha what’s your prediction on the outcome of this game?
Jeter will hit a homerun
jesus where is Melvin Mora when you need him
jeezus lord – can anyone hit it out of the darn infield fer pete’s sake??
Looks like I picked the wrong weekend to stop sniffing glue.
Kay just lost his voice on that call.
“Hawkins, yes!!”
Actually that’s the kind of energy we need here!
Basehit…
Come on Captain…do not GIDP!
Yes!… does JoeG put a play on? Let them hit away?
This is pretty much the inning we have to break through, methinks. Time for the Captain to come alive. I can’t take… you know.
Come on Jeter!!
Jeter’s up… please don’t swing on the first pitch….
bunt Jetes, bunt!
alright capt clutch – time for a timely homer darnit
Jeter gets out his slump right here!
“Trisha what’s your prediction on the outcome of this game?”
Miggs, I’m afraid to say it because I always think we’re going to win, but I think we’ll pull it out.
How about you?
I hope that bat has a RF bloop left
Come on, Jeter. Get it done!
Captain Stinker GiDP?
Jeter’s turn to shut up the trolls.
Don’t get picked off
Lamb said Baaah when the ball got by him.
Jeter is 3 for 42? Irrespective of how he does at this bat, he needs to think about the team and take a day or two off.
I don’t know Trish. But I think we have to score soon, preferrably this inning.
Pat M,
Completely off topic but as you’re here…
Have you seen Gerrit Cole pitch by any chance? You are the guy for OC prep pitching prospects.
If you’ve seen him, what’s your take? How his stuff? I think he may be available when the yankees pick in the draft and I could see them taking him. Sounds like he’s very raw but has a great arm. Some people have said he’s the best prep prospect in SoCal since Hughes.
Specific question – a number of sources have said that he has a “terrible make up.” Very immature on the mound and with teammates. Have you seen anything like this from him? It’s all vague stuff – the kind that leaks out before the draft.
Any impressions you have would be appreciated.
WOW
nice.
good aggressive baserunning !
“Lamb said Baaah when the ball got by him.”
Rhaps you’re pretty funny tonight!
Good baserunning by Damon. Also, nice hit for Jeter.
Yessssss!!!!!
Cap’n Clutch…thank you!
now just a long fly ball Bobby!
no GIDP please….
El Capitan! Nicely done. We’re scoring here, no doubt in my mind. Then we’ll see Mo. Mark it down.
Yanks set up here to take the lead and get it to Mo.
Jeter’s first hit in a long time…. and a big one.
OMG PLEASE get this run in.
Not bad for an old man.
Thank you Jeter..Yanks please don’t mess this up. Abreu a sac fly is all we need…
Is Wang done? Getting worse & worse each game.
man, I want to see Mo.
6 4 3 time
OMG HOW IS THAT A STRIKE !
Bobby will definitely plate Damon…
C’mon Bob-baaayy!.
Wow, Abreu has more GIDP than anyone else. Shocking.
i’d take a wild pitch…anything…
“Is Wang done? Getting worse & worse each game.”
no.
Twins have one more reliever in the pen, Yankees have 3.
Oh Yeah!!!!!!!!
YES BOBBY !!!!
Atta boy!
I LOVE BOBBY!
BOBBY….
Clutch hit by Abreu!
ABREU!!!!!!!!!
seeing mo throw in the pen is like taking a couple shots of pepto bismol after those last few innings
…Guess the Yanks don’t want Hawkins to pitch.
Yes! Bobby is hot lately, insurance time now A Rod.
Please don’t GiDP, Bobby. $$$$$$ waiting for you next year
Thank God for Bobby Abreu!
Yes! Great call Trisha! lol
Alright, it’s time, you have to hand it to Girardi. He did EVERYTHING right this game, all the right pitching calls, and now he’s handing a lead to Rivera.
Thank you Abreu for not letting the strike call bother you. Good Hawkins now sit down…An insurance run can’t hurt but might be too much too ask.
Get Mo ready baby!
Bobby Abreu is sweet as candy..,
Girardi not letting that strike 1 on Bobby slide
Now let’s score a bunch!!!!
And, sportsfans – and tonyb – we’re getting ready to touch the face of God.
Mo will be in soon.
arod 3 run shot
Woohoo !!!!
Abreu does what he does best. Hopefully A Rod can help with an insurance run.
Mo is warming. Life is good.
The sight of Hawkins warming up will scare any team straight.
Now that’s a clutch hit, something that builds character, carries over, and can inspire teammates down the road!
ARod is going to hit an HR here
This might be an unintentional walk…
Give us some cushion A-ROD
well with a taxed bullpen tomorrow maybe well see britton but the way rasners been pitching probly not.
Wow. Cuddyer. would have been interesting if we had a man on 3rd…
Arod tried to do too much. The umpire called a ball a strike, then he swung at ball 3..Bad at bat…
what a stupid play by Cuddyer you moved the run closer to home making that catch
speaking of Randy Moss…how bout ‘dem Patriots?
AAAAAHG…. Nothing from MR. A-ROD again… atleast we have GODZILLA batting…
Come on, Matsui San!
high strike…
Cuddyer is been a thorn in our side tonight. They should rough him up a little in the parking lot after the game.
Grand Slam time for Mr. Porno Mustach…
GIAMBINO…. for an 11-6 lead….
It will be ironic if Giambi walks in a run.
This may not wind up being a save situation. I use Mo if they are up by 4 runs or less, otherwise Hawkins.
Come on Big G. Earn that 21 million !!!
I’m just kidding, I’m a Giambi fan. But his salary this year is just outrageous.
CB….I only seen him once back in March…..Tall and skinny, throws effortlessly hard…I read that he’s going to UCLA….I’m certain that if he is picked early ( and I think he’ll be a top 15 ) he could sign…..Never heard anything negative about him…He goes to a Private Lutheran HS…..He seems to be a legit blue chip….
the reason that’s a stupid catch by Cuddyer is because he moved Jetes to 3B w/ that out, no offense but Alex had 2 strikes, he could have hit into a DP but now that out creates a BB to load the bases because a single would have scored another run.
Let’s hope Ron Jeremy puts a jolt into one.
Put this game away, Giambi!!!!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
Big G is looking at that opposite field gap.
It would be a reverse miracle if the Twins could come back and win. They are on their last pitcher.
I think Giambi smacks the ball into the outfield, good for a triple for anyone else, a double for the fleet of foot Giambi!
“what a stupid play by Cuddyer you moved the run closer to home making that catch”
That’s the right play, IMO. You have to take the out there with a man on second. The yankees only have two outs to score a run and you have the opportunity to cut their opportunities to score in half there. You have to take the out. Especially with ARod up.
mo time
“I think Giambi smacks the ball into the outfield,”
Well, that part was right!
And now we go to the inimitable Mariano Rivera!
Let’s go Mo!!!!!
At this rate, Mo’s arm is going to fall off by August.
ENTER SANDMAN
I hope leaving the bases loaded doesn’t come back to hurt them. Mo has pitched an awful lot recently…
“It appears Jeff Karstens is headed to the majors. He was lifted after four innings in his start for Scranton tonight (4 6 2 2 2 2).”
One of Pete’s updates.
I told you that Feisand said Karstens was coming up and Britton was going down.
Hey where are all the laughing trolls? Did someone put them away for the night?
CB and then the throw to 3B which could have gone off line, I’m not a fan of making that type of play at that point. Cuddyer got lucky a single break it open. Oh well I see your point to but I’ve seen that back fire before.
someone in my apartment back in new york switched the channel and i’m watching using a slingbox. i just had to call home and lay the smack down.
do it mo!
why did betemit take over for 1B? is he really a defensive replacement????
Is it just me, or do you think Chris Britton is a malt liquor man?
Gidder done, MO.
Losing the game is all right, Mo
I hope you can stay healthy
Come on Mo you can do it!!!!
Again with the “little cutter” comment. This guy is such a tool.
1 out, 2 Mo to go!!!!!
Bam.
One down, two to go.
“Losing the game is all right, Mo”
Wishful thinking on the part of the ever-negative pretend Yankee fan ER.
Pat M,
Thanks for the heads up. I figured that you would have seen him throw. Good to hear.
I have no idea what this is about, but supposedly Cole has dropped a lot in the draft. Both due to signability and all of these rumors out there that he has a “terrible makeup.” Bad demeanor on the mound, bad with umps and bad with teamates.
I’ve seen in multiple sources that scouts have soured on him for some perplexing reason that has to do with his “makeup.”
It just sounds like a lot of vague, non-specific rumor type stuff before the draft but I haven’t seen him projected to go in the top 15 anywhere.
I also saw reports of him hitting 101 mph in a playoff game this week.
I think he may be in Pinstripes in the near future…
YOU MOTHER F….
YOU MOTHER F….
he’s out… even lamb thought it was a strike.
Trisha, this was Pete’s later update-
“UPDATE, 10:38 p.m.: Not so fast on Jeff Karstens. Chad Jennings reports that Karstens left the game tonight because he felt tightness in the groin muscle that he popped in spring training.
So the long man on Tuesday will be … Dan Giese? Not the K-Man. No, it’s can’t be.
Ross Ohlendorf warming up. Chris Britton has climbed to the top of the dome with a rifle.”
Smoooooth!!!!!
how was that not a strike
Two down, one to go.
cano sure is smooth out there
The hitter even thought that was a strike. He started to walk away!!!!!!!!!
Robby kind-of web gem.
That was hilarious. Lamb started to walk back to the dugout.
BET !
Yankees Win!!!!!!
there we go! big win!
for the second night in a row one of the Twins’ broadcasters referred to Mo’s signature pitch as “that little cutter.” heh, ok. well, that “little cutter” has dominated baseball for the last decade and then some.
Mariano, don’t fail us now!
THE YANKEES WINNNN
gutsy win.
whatever that means…
but gutsy win.
can we just give mariano the cy young award right now?
he is absolutely outstanding
Mo has been squeezed alot the last couple of outings. But he gets it done anyway..Good job Mo..He will definitely be off tomorrow..
W00T!
ha! Guess Betemit is a defensive replacement.
Is this the best win of the year or what? First win on the road in extras this year. Over .500. All is well here.
The Yanks win. Nice plays by Robbie and Wilson to end the game.
How the hell did we pull that off?
WILSON BETEMIT IS AM AMERICAN HERO!!!
Yankee fans, we have once again touched the face of God. Mariano, I bow to you.
Let me get this right: We just won in extra innings on the road AND are a game over .500?
Life is good.
Huge win
Let’s hope this is the beginning of a long winning streak
Most satisfying win of the season thus far?
tha a a a a a a a a Yankees Win!
I pray Mo’s not hurt
how funny is this abreu interview lol
There is not other way to put it — Mo is just absolutely incredible! Totally lights out when he comes in. Amazing!
LOFL!!! Abreu.
LOL @ Abreu and Cano!
That’s OK. The Twins are a “little organization.” Also, is a wedgie an FCC fineable offense?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM52Xsvw5NQ
“How the hell did we pull that off?”
Interestingly, some of actually believed we would. I guess it’s all a state of mind, Laura.
haha, i knew Robbie was up to something when he went back onto the field with a cup of water. Anyone speak Spanish and know what Bobby said. Probably a curse.
So, is ER going to whine some more about how the Yankees are going to lose tonight? LOL! EAT CROW!
That’s 3 in a row. And puts the Yanks over .500
congrats to ohlendorf on his first career win…
And thanks to Ollie for not letting the twins score in the 11th, so we don’t have to be subjected to more “Ollie is misused as a long reliever!” missives on this blog
LOL BOBBY BLESS YOUR SPANGLISH
Phew. Another lucky win – but I’ll take it. I don’t trust any of our starters right now. They are all 5 inning guys. We can’t expect much out of the bullpen this year.
i had to leave before, it was so freakin juvinile in here before with shape shifter and the wang haters. too bad b/c i really like chatting while the game’s on.
A terrific victory with clutch hitting in an extra inning game ON THE ROAD. Excellent job by Mo to shut it down, as always. He is still the best, continually dominating and reinventing his game. The guy could probably pitch for five or six more years. Great win!
Mo=0.36
“can we just give mariano the cy young award right now?”
I really want to see him win the Cy Young this year.
I hope this becomes an issue that the NY Media takes up and starts talking about to start getting the idea into voter’s minds.
What Ollie did was not the same thing as being used as a long reliever.
Yankees win again…
ASU Sun Devils up 7-1…
If you guys like College baseball, you need to watch this team. If the make it to the College WS, you need to watch Brett Wallace, Ryan Sontag, Ike Davis and Ryan Leake
Last night Jeff Larish, played a couple years ago, entered the game for the Tigers.
8 out of 10. 2pm start time tomorrow, the Dazzler is pitching.
Who the hell thought we’d lose this game?? We have MO!!!
Wang did not have his best stuff tonight, but still the Yankees won. A very nice win!
What about Melancon for the long reliever when Joba pitches? He’s pitched 11 innings in 4 games at Trenton (2, 4, 3, and 2 innings) and been dominant.
It’s not uncommon for prospects to skip AAA, particularly if this will be used as a one or two appearance call up, then sent back for more seasoning.
I think the Cy Young would be too pedestrian for Mo this year.
Nobel Peace Prize?
Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval?
Mo is a god
Rasner time tomorrow with both bullpens used up?
Ohlendorf finally stepped up, there has to come a time he goes from AAA to a MLB player..
P.S. for the none spanish speaking people Abreu was about to curse in spanish and held back w/ a…. uh ay uh..uh to uh unghhh
ASU is really impressive. No doubt about it.
8/10!!! w00t!
Mariano Rivera for Con Smyth Trophy.
Excellent win.
Girardi manageed the game and the bullpen well.
Britton can always pitch tomorrow.
very nice win !
“Phew. Another lucky win – but I’ll take it. I don’t trust any of our starters right now. They are all 5 inning guys. We can’t expect much out of the bullpen this year.”
This couldn’t be more wrong!
Our starters are pretty much 6-7 inning guys. Our bullpen has been lights out. It is only since the shift out of Joba that we’ve felt growing pains.
Something makes me think you aren’t REALLY with the Yankee program…but no matter.
where is wangara, russ m and shapeshifter now?
Good point, that was Ross’s first major league win, congrats Ross, here’s hoping you get 200 more for the Yankees.
And now the topper: Chevy Player of the Game.
Ross is living the dream tonight.
Mo is going to to falter a little bit this year. He’s been so amazing this year you have to expect it. But I still really believe this will be the year he wins the Cy Young.
I know this has been said before, but we’re so lucky to get to watch him. There are many debates about who is the greatest in baseball at certain positions. But there is simply no debate about the greatest closer. Mo. The closest to perfect we will ever see.
is abreu afraid of gatorade and the wall?
Nice, stressful, exciting win
In fact credit to Farnsy and Ollie! Our pen was our salvation tonight.
How can there be so much confidence on guys who haven’t even played last year i.e. cox,Melchon,Sanchez.
Mo is a freak of nature. I have never seen him look better than he does right now and I’ve watched his entire career. Simply amazing.
Big win. Just as big of a loss for the Twins. Think about being on the other side of that game. Hopefully the team can ride this to a series win. A sweep might be getting greedy, but 3 out of 4 should be expected after this one.
These are the types of games we have to win. I’ve been saying this all year now. The starters are going to be knocked out early a lot (although Wang was a little surprising today) and the bullpen is going to blow leads.
Everyone says pitching wins games. But the offense is the key to the Yankees success this year. They are going to have to win the 8-7 and 9-8 games. And judging from the first part of the season, there are going to be lots of games like that.
How many pitches did it take Mo tonight? 10? 12? Amazing.
Mo deserves a Closer Lifetime Achievement award.
I have to give cred to Girardi too, he made all the right moves tonight. Good lineup, played the bp the right order and got Betemit in there for defense, I really think Giambi might have missed that last bullet.
Great win!
I really hope Girardi sticks with the plan to call up a long man regardless of Karstens latest injury.
They’ve needed a long man all year.
Then hopefully they can shift Ohlendorf to the short man role and see what he can do. Perhaps this is appearance he can build on.
I still think he may need more time in AAA but this could help build some confidence if he can get out of that long man role.
GREAT WIN!!!!
“Britton can always pitch tomorrow.”
He is certainly well rested!!
I thought you couldn’t pitch yourself into a Player of the Game situation?
“where is wangara, russ m and shapeshifter now?”
The aides at the institution have already medicated them for the night and put them in their straightjackets. They were afraid they’d either hurt themselves or some of the other patients there since the Yankees won this game.
Trisha – you’re right. The bullpen did a great job tonight. We knew that the Yanks would win all along!
Have a good evening all. See you tomorrow.
The reason you can’t use Edwar,Ohlendorff or Kyle is because they have homerun problems.
But hey anybody can pitch the 8th.
i like olly’s pitches, hes been having some tough times so far, but thats what happens with young guys when they come up, it can take a while. its important for people to remember that when guys like cox and melancon come up. they are not likely to have instant success. calling for the yanks to bring up melancon and use him for the 7th or 8th inning, when he’s barely gotten his feet wet in aa is just not realistic.
there will be more growing pains but i think olendorf is going to be a good one.
Fran, as long as you or I are always holding the hidden idol, the Yankees will continue to sail!!!
Good night gf!
So after tonight, Ohlendorf becomes the official set up man for Mo?
MoBoy, you disrespect Mo by using him in your name.
Post smarter or drop the Mo!
“The reason you can’t use Edwar,Ohlendorff or Kyle is because they have homerun problems.
But hey anybody can pitch the 8th.”
Joba has allowed as many HRs as Edwar this year.
I hope you’re willing to eat crow when Joba’s well on his way to being that dominant ace the Yankees need…
CB…There was an article in the LA Times that mentioned that he came in to relieve, and whiffed the 9 batters he faced….High GPA in a Private school, but I think he goes to UCLA …..I’ll check around about his personal issues….That’s made Hughes so special , head had his head screwed on right…..Yankee fans must not give up on Phil, he’s going to be a very special pitcher….It’s just a matter of time and everyone will be glad that he didn’t get traded for Santana……
“CB…There was an article in the LA Times that mentioned that he came in to relieve, and whiffed the 9 batters he faced….High GPA in a Private school, but I think he goes to UCLA …..I’ll check around about his personal issues….That’s made Hughes so special , head had his head screwed on right…..Yankee fans must not give up on Phil, he’s going to be a very special pitcher….It’s just a matter of time and everyone will be glad that he didn’t get traded for Santana……”
I wonder how much $$$$ it would take to convince him not to go to UCLA….
Signability concerns is probably why he’s falling in the draft. The 1st round is way too important to draft a guy who doesn’t sign.
i got so sick of shifter that i turned off the computer, but when jeter got that (very big) hit, i knew he’d be nowhere to be seen.
note: that doesnt mean hes not here , he probably just ’shifted’ to another screenname
“I hope you’re willing to eat crow when Joba’s well on his way to being that dominant ace the Yankees need…”
Crow? You think he’s on solid foods yet?
“How can there be so much confidence on guys who haven’t even played last year i.e. cox,Melchon,Sanchez.”
Because Melancon and Cox both have the makeup since they were college closers. Because people forget that Cox was on a fast track to the majors before his injury. Because Cox has a nasty slider and attacks hitters. Because Melancon has a great curve and…he attacks hitters. Because Melancon, when the great Mo does decide to hang ‘em up, will likely be the man to take over as closer.
Solid point V….$$$$ may not buy you love, but it certainly can buy a 18 year old a nice Porche…..Where do the Yanks pick this year anyway ?????
the definition of a fair-weather fan:
(ER):”I’ll go back to Atonement now and return if Yanks are winning”
why dont u just go back to attonement now.
Pat M,
If you can do any digging on Cole and his make up please do so. I’m hoping he’s in Charleston next year.
Again, I obviously have no particular knowledge of what’s going on with Cole but from what I’ve read his commitment to UCLA isn’t going to be that hard to break. I don’t think it’s one of those set in stone commitments.
I almost get the sense that Boras wants him to drop down in the draft to get a larger signing bonus from team willing to pay over slot. Boras has been said to do that in the past. No idea if that’s accurate. But out of nowhere all of these rumors popped up about him.
I haven’t seen him in any top 15’s from any draft evaluators. It very perplexing as you read about his arm and his stuff and it sounds like he should be a top 10 guy.
I don’t think money will stop the yankees from signing him. They’ll buy him out of his commitment to UCLA.
Supposedly he was very impressive in the playoffs this week and that may have reopened some eyes so maybe he’ll be off the board. What’s the saying… you can’t teach throwing 101!
Agreed on Phil. I’m not worried about him. I still think he’s going to be a front line pitcher.
Karstens is NOT a major leaguer. I don’t understand how anyone can think that he is.
OMG I’m laughing histerically, Girardi said “thank God for the baggie.” in response to the HR that almost was.
Hilarious!
ham fighter-
wanted to log back on to give jeter his props for a timely hit
then ill give you props for standing up.
the thing is, i’v always been a little critical of jeter myself and tell people constantly that he’s not a god, but posting it again and again and again was just out of control today. make your point and move on.
but props for standing up.
“Signability concerns is probably why he’s falling in the draft. ”
That’s part of it – he’s a Boras guy. But supposedly is much more related to his “make up.”
This is what Kevin Goldstein, the Baseball Prospectus prospect/ draft guy said on Cole in a chat this week:
“Kevin Goldstein: I don’t think there’s going to be any kind of Porcello situation this year, unless you count Gerrit Cole, who has a great arm and beyond ridiculously bad makeup.”
Goldstein gets his stuff directly from scouts. This isn’t just his take.
Pat M your on the case now so we’ll get to the bottom of this!
The yanks pick 28. The only two high ceiling guys I think might still be on the board then are Cole and Scheppers from Fresno State. They also have a supplemental pick at #44.
http://www.baseballprospectus......chatId=464
“Rob (Bloomington, IL): Who do you think will end up taking Gerrit Cole? Any chance the Cubs nab him at #19?
Kevin Goldstein: He’s a very hard guy to figure out. Hard to argue with the arm, but as a kid, nobody likes him.”
scorpio-
whats so funny about that? i hardly think that warrants an OMG…
if u kill a guy when he is down ya gotta give it to him when he gets the job done. i am still down on him though, big time.
I thought shapeshifter was a troll! Sorry shape.
clutchsoxwinagain May 31st, 2008 at 10:21 pm
This is the typical game that the Yanks cannot win…a close game on the road, maybe extra innings. They just don’t have the heart and guts to come up with the big hit and get the tough outs like Boston has done in Baltimore. Which piece of garbage Yankee reliever will get the loss tonight…any predictions?
My favorite post of the night.
LOL THE CLUB HOUSE HAS LATIN MUSIC BLAZING RIGHT NOW
WOW, I’d never heard Ross Ohlendorf interviewed before.. that was painful to watch
Does he have some sort of condition?
now it’s Soulja Boy..watsup w/ the lockerroom Joe G
im not a troll… im a 20 yr yanks fan who just happens to hyper-critical and really really dissapointed that they are 1 game over .500 on June 1st. No more, no less. Everyone- have a good night
anyone expect the Rays to call up David Price before September? I wouldnt be surprised if he gets more than a spot start. That rotation could be lethal within a couple of years…and another first round pick this year. actually, its already looking very good.
they are playing “superman that –” in the clubhouse. i wonder who put that on?
Brandon-
You hear about Brayan Pena?
Abreu is hitting .353 with RISP this year.
It really surprises me how people make such a big deal about him not running into walls and just ignore all the things he does to help the team win.
Big Pappi’s wrist injury does not look good.
canocabrara-
shelly duncan used to star on the show “life goes on”
“June 1st, 2008 at 12:25 am
Brandon-
You hear about Brayan Pena?”
Royals
Physical Description: Cole is a projectable high school right-hander who compares a bit to Kyle Farnsworth.
Let’s hope thats the only thing he has in common with Kyle….
Mo’s ERA – 0.36
That is just sick.
He was DFA’d by the Royals.
Zach,
I think Price could very well be up before September. If he hadn’t had that elbow soreness that shut him down to start the season I think he would have been up at some point in the second half.
They already have such a good rotation they could in theory hope to keep him in the minors.
But if they are battling for a playoff spot I can’t see how they could keep him down in the minors if he’s throwing well. He’s such a great talent. He’s going to be better than Kazmir.
With Kershaw called up Price is heads and shoulders the best pitching prospect in the minors. I don’t think he’s going to let the Rays ignore his talent if they’re in the race.
“It really surprises me how people make such a big deal about him not running into walls and just ignore all the things he does to help the team win.”
Very true. I complain about his supposed “fear of the wall” all the time, but at the end of the day, his plate discipline and clutch hitting has been huge for the team and definitely outweighs any defensive shortcomings.
“Physical Description: Cole is a projectable high school right-hander who compares a bit to Kyle Farnsworth.”
I saw that on milb.com and shuddered. Then I hit the back button on my browser as a fast as possible.
So tomorrow/today is the Raz vs. Blackburn
Would be nice to make it 3 in a row. We will see…
did Ortiz hurt his wrist again ? that’s not a good thing at all.
Brandon,
Ortiz hurt his wrist on a swing tonight and left holding it very gingerly. It did not look good at all.
What a performance from Dave Robertson tonight. 2.1 innings pitches 6K’s and 0 BB. Chad Jennings said it was the best he’s seen his curve ball look this year.
wow. is Citizens Bank in Philly the biggest bandbox in the game?
“He was DFA’d by the Royals.”
no he was claimed
I bet Abreu could have caught that triple in the 10th if he wasn’t so afraid of the wall. (lol)
i dont hear anybody making too much about abreu’s wall problem, they just tent to mention it when discussing his defense, which is certainly fair to do. personally, i really liked him back when he was here rin philly, and was really happy the yankees got him.
but, so many people who do like him say the wall thing is nothing or call his throwing phenominal, well that’s going too far the other way. he is a great player who has a very strage problem with walls. he has an increadibly strong arm which sometimes inaccurate. its all part of the package, you take one part, you get all the other. thats who bobby abreu is.
CB tough break for Ortiz he’s had a broken hambone before and had many wrist injuries before this one. Not good at all.
How long until Robertson hits NYC ?
id say citizens is the easiest park to hit a ball out in the power alleys in the majors. but its also a GREAT place to watch a game from. i dont understand why these newer parks werent designed with some ability to adjust the wall distances either way depending on how they played.
Brandon-
He was just released by the Royals.
http://rotoworld.com/content/p.....amp;id=533
btw, congratulations to new york native manny ramirez on his 500th home run!
“How long until Robertson hits NYC ?”
I think it completely depends on his control and walk rates. They aren’t hitting his stuff in AAA. They’re hitting .169 off of him but 11 walks in 16 innings going into tonight is way too high.
Although I’ve away from it for a few years, I do know many of the CIF umpires as well as several Connie Mack Coaches…I make a few calls, but the kid has a great arm….I should have some info by tomorrow……
“i dont understand why these newer parks werent designed with some ability to adjust the wall distances either way depending on how they played.”
Home runs = $$$
Which Ortiz?
Pat M,
You’re the best! What a resource. I love the draft and always hope the yanks draft at least one truly high ceiling guy. This year the talent is much thinner then in years past. But for whatever reason Cole could be there at 28 which I never thought would be possible. He has what sounds like, by far, the best arm – prep or college – in the draft.
pennants and w.s. games=$$$ alot more than home runs. its really tough to put together a pitching staff when everything in the gap is gone.
Big Papi
oh my…Jay Bruce.
if they want to move the fences in on a big park thats no problem (see comerica, and yankee stadium) but once you put the fences in close and put the bleachers right behind it, you cant move the fences back, that was my point.
Patterson up.
does MLB have to approve changes to field dimensions? or is that decision purely in the hands of the team?
ham fighter,
I completely agree with you and would never want to build one of those band boxes. You’re right on the money that it just kills a pitching staff and makes it very hard to develop young pitchers and attract free agents.
But I do think these teams are looking it at as offense will fill seats over 81 home games year in and out. Even if the team isn’t in the race people will still come if runs are scored.
They could build them larger but they’ve consciously decided to make them extreme hitter’s parks.
“Patterson up.”
there better be a link for this claim
CB-
Tell that to the architects of Petco.
Brandon-
You catch my link about Pena being released?
i just got off the phone with his girlfriend.
Buddy,
Very good point. But that’s really been the exception hasn’t it from that generation of parks isn’t it?
And the Padres were very shrewd in doing that. It’s helped them put together a good staff and win last year with an awful offense.
“Brandon-
He was just released by the Royals.”
wow free hitting catcher available, he also can be used as trade bait, calling Yankee’s GM switch hitting catcher unclaimed
thunder-
can we get a link to your phonecall?
sure
thunder explain to me why I should take your word, not saying your lying but explain how or why I shouldn’t
guy gets released by the ROYALS (after they obviously tried to trade him but couldnt) then goes unclaimed by all 29 other teams.
yeah, lets jump right on that, he is obviously great trade bait!
Pat M. and CB, RE: Cole – I did some looking on-line, and apparently he’s had a history of yelling at umpires about calls he didn’t like and yelling at teammates for botched plays behind him, etc.
Very emotional, but that stuff doesn’t stand in baseball – I’d bet the Yankees would look past that to draft him as low as they draft, and give him some real $$$$.
you can believe anything you want, brandon. i’m not saying anyone has to believe me. i just made a comment, that’s all. people say a lot of stuff on here – true or not. we can choose to believe any of it or none of it…
i know who i talked to and that is all.
com’on Cash what catcher you have in AA w/ good upside Chris Stewert ?, JD Closser ? you have nothing to lose w/ Pena maybe more to gain.
AAA*
Okay, Brandon. Consider it done & done.
V,
I’ve seen the same things but it all seems very fishy. At the beginning of the year some people were thinking he had the stuff to be a top 5 pick. He then sits 94-98 all year, touching 101 and he’s falling in the draft?
Perplexing stuff like this seems to come out about certain players before every draft and it just seems to spiral.
In 2006 there rumors just kept spiraling about Joba being lazy and not willing to work hard. I saw a comparison between Joba and Sidyney Ponson around draft time with respect to work ethic.
We’ll see. Cole may very well get taken early but I hope he’s still on the board. He really does have the best arm in this entire draft. Not the best pitcher but the best arm.
Gotta love draft time…
thunder, were you at the trenton game on thursday?
I just got off the phone with Joba’s girlfriend. A little ditzy, but wow what a sexy voice.
Um, where was I?
Oh yeah, she said that Joba is very disappointed that someone who posts on this board as “Dynasty is Destiny” suggested that Joba is too fragile and sensitive to handle the transition from the bullpen to the rotation and possibly back again if he doesn’t stick. But Joba’s feelings aren’t hurt by Dynasty’s lack of faith beause Joba isn’t fragile or sensitive.
That’s pretty much what she said.
Hey Pete, what’s wrong with Wang? Can we get some answers please?
Like, why does he keep throwing that very high, tailing fastball? What the hell is that thing supposed to be, anyways?
Why isn’t anyone teaching him additional pitches?
Why does he throw such a flat slider – it looks sort of like a fast knuckleball!
Why why why is he looking so strange these last few outings?
Why can’t he even throw sinkers anymore?
Baseball Tonights coverage of the Yankee game was atrocious! Apparently the Yankees lost tonights game.
New nickname for Cano?
From USA Today
“Sticking with what you have within the organization is the more prudent way to go, anyway, Cashman insists.
“It’s like playing the stock market,” he says. “If I had a belief when I bought, say, Microsoft, I should stick with Microsoft, even though the stock can underperform at times. You have to ride it out. Of course, it doesn’t mean you’re always right, but there was a reason for that belief in the first place. I believe Robinson Cano is Microsoft”
yes, why?
“Hey Pete, what’s wrong with Wang? Can we get some answers please?
Like, why does he keep throwing that very high, tailing fastball? What the hell is that thing supposed to be, anyways?
Why isn’t anyone teaching him additional pitches?
Why does he throw such a flat slider – it looks sort of like a fast knuckleball!
Why why why is he looking so strange these last few outings?
Why can’t he even throw sinkers anymore?”
Um, his mechanics are probably off. I don’t think that high tailing fastball is on purpose. I don’t get why he needs to be taught additional pitches when he already has a solid repertoire of 3-4, and his mechanics are off. I don’t think he’s trying to throw a flat slider on purpose. His mechanics are off. I bet he’s trying to throw sinkers, but, uh, his mechanics are off. He probably looks strange, because, uh, his mechanics are off.
It happens to the best of ‘em.
i was there, too. everybody jumped on tabata about that missed dive play by ajax, but it didnt seem to me that he took that long to get to it. what did u think?
LHP (relief) Erick Threets might be traded for cheap or DFA by the Giants should be interesting to look at the wires.
Robinson “Microsoft” Cano?
“I believe LaTroy Hawkins is Enron.”
I get it, because his batting average is micro and his swing is soft?
v, flash said they had noticed his lead shoulder flying open on his delivery his last few starts and worked on it in the bp between starts. could be that he’s still doing it, or it could be that he’s become over-conscious of not doing it.
i have alot of confidence that he’ll get it back though.
“Ensberg must be Woolworth”
Don’t get me wrong, I love Cano!
A new Pete Abe post should end this silliness.
maybe that guy was right about Patterson?
i saw ajack dive and miss, but then i started watching to see how far the runners would go. i saw tabby get out there, but he isn’t the fastest guy in uniform. didn’t seem to take forever, but it wasn’t brett gardner speed either. not sure he made a big move towards center to begin with even before ajack was halfway to the ground. i sit behind the home dugout so i don’t know what happened inside afterwards or if there was a blow up of some sort. didn’t wait afterwards either like i normally do so i didn’t get to ask anyone what happened.
i’m not a guy.
i was right behind the plate, reading the scout’s radar guns, so i had a pretty good view into the dugout, but all i saw was franklin, HOT as a pistol, going after someone, (obviously tabata) but was blocked by the players from seeing what was going on.
the most i saw of tabby was him leaning on the fence for about 3-4 minutes, but don’t remember at what point in the game that happened. he’s hardly ever out in view. some guys are fence guys, some guys are not. and some guys only come out when girls in short skirts decide to move down into the front row (like they did on in the late innings on thursday).
i had a great time, my other visit was at the scranton game when it was -1000 degrees.
ill be back on the 11th to get my melky bobblhead, though!
scott’s getting a bobblehead on july 2nd. i think it was originally slated to be george washington (go figure) and now it lists SP. good for him.
oh, and the weather isn’t all that much better when it gets late in the games. it’s nice or at least tolerable up until about 930pm. if not, earlier haha. that’s what happens when the park is on the river with a low RF fence.
Don’t know which blog entry is funnier:
UPDATE, 6:37 p.m.: Maybe somebody put LSD in my Diet Coke. But I think there are several hundred little girls dressed as pirate cheerleaders in right field. I’m not sure what they’re going to do. Hopefully not attack the pressbox.
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UPDATE, 9:43 p.m.: TC The Bear is next to the press box posing for photos with a group of beauty pagent winners. It’s Miss Teen South Dakota and her court.
I just pray that the Big G is kept away from these girls. The Midwest isn’t ready for that.
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