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Don’t blame Farnsworth

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 02, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Here’s my question. The Yankees temporarily made Joba Chamberlain a reliever last season because they didn’t trust Kyle Farnsworth in the eighth inning.

He remained in that role for nearly two months for the same reason.

What has changed? Because Joba is becoming a starter (as he should be), Farnsworth is suddenly going to be reliable?

Don’t blame Farnsworth for losing the game tonight. Blame Joe Girardi’s misguided faith in him and Brian Cashman for not signing a relief pitcher who could do the job in the eighth inning. If the plan all along was to make Joba a starter, why isn’t there more coverage?

In time, Mark Melancon or J.B. Cox could prove worthy of the role. But it would be foolish to promote them before they are ready. In the meantime, the Yankees are back under .500 and seven games out. They’re giving away games they can’t afford to.

Farnsworth has appeared in six games since Chamberlain switched roles. He has allowed four runs on nine hits and three walks over 6.1 innings. This is hardly surprise, it’s what he has done since he became a Yankee. Blame the people who put him in to pitch.

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343 Responses to “Don’t blame Farnsworth”

  1. El Maestro June 3rd, 2008 at 12:01 am

    I have to agree with this.

  2. S.A.-Just win games and can someone please feed Edwar? June 3rd, 2008 at 12:02 am

    Very true

  3. The Fallen Phoenix June 3rd, 2008 at 12:03 am

    The Yankees have arms in the bullpen right now that could do Farnsworth’s job better than he can (I’m looking squarely at Edwar Ramirez), and it’s not like Cashman had nice, easy pickings of reliable bullpen arms to choose from this past off-season.

    Fact of the matter is, high-upside guys like Edwar should be given the opportunity to pitch high leverage innings. Veras, if he can demonstrate good command, would be another alternative, as would Ohlendorf. But I think Edwar’s the best bet the Yankees have right now, and–in fairness–I think Bruney would be doing a decent job, too, if he weren’t injured.

  4. eric June 3rd, 2008 at 12:04 am

    poor brian bruney.

  5. Mike June 3rd, 2008 at 12:04 am

    They lost this game WAY before Farnsworth came in. The hitting was EMBARRASSING and Pettitte completely spit the bit THREE times.

  6. Jonah June 3rd, 2008 at 12:06 am

    We can also blame the decision makers who felt that Mussina would be a good #3 pitcher this year while the two young guys, Hughes and Kennedy were the 4-5 guys.

    The same Mussina who was dropped from the rotation last Aug for terrible performances and loss of stuff.

    So now we have 2 reliable starters, 1 who has diminished stuff and lost his spot the yr before and 2 rookies on pitch counts with another supposedly on the way from the pen. How does that make sense for a team with championship aspirations?

    Not getting another good starter in here has hurt just as much as having Farnsworth in the pen. Probably more.

  7. DBH June 3rd, 2008 at 12:08 am

    I do blame the people who put him in to pitch. Most of us have been blaming them – and generally looking at them with wide-eyed disbelief – throughout the history of the Farnsworth debacle. Putting him in tonight was suicide.

    Having said that, would Farnsworth get credit if he pitched well? If so, then it surely can’t be wrong to blame him for pitching poorly. Your argument implies that blaming Farnsworth and blaming Girardi are mutually exclusive.

    They aren’t mutually exclusive.

    When it comes to decisions to put Farnsworth in, Girardi and Cashman are to blame. When his performance justifies our blaming Girardi and Cashman, then Farnsworth is to blame.

    I just wonder how much blame is required to compel Girardi to reconsider his astoundingly and obviously ill-advised faith.

  8. Jonah June 3rd, 2008 at 12:08 am

    “it’s not like Cashman had nice, easy pickings of reliable bullpen arms to choose from this past off-season.”

    Because a trade isn’t in a GM’s job description?? The international free agent market isn’t out there? Finding gems in other organizations is beyond the Yankees? Why have this “great farm system” if you don’t put those pieces to use?

  9. Chambliss June 3rd, 2008 at 12:09 am

    Pete: I thought that this game was on Pettitte? What changed in 2 hours? Without Ortiz and with a poorly constructed bullpen, the Sox are in trouble. Toronto and Tampa could be fighting it out for the division by the end of the June.

    I am glad that Joba is going into the rotation where he belongs, but it is going to be painful without him in the pen. We might as well get used to it.

    It is time to let the young guys get a chance in the pen. Every inning that Farnsy or Hawk throws is a wasted inning that could have gone to someone with potential to help this team win #27.

  10. Eugie June 3rd, 2008 at 12:09 am

    lol this stuff cracks me up. Pete, you want it both ways. This is the exact argument that was already made for keeping Joba in the pen. You create a hole taking him out and we have nobody on this roster who can fill that void.

    Not too long ago.. days.. You along with some bloggers were underrating that 8th inning role. Look at how many games it’s cost us already… and NEWSFLASH MO isn’t immortal, unfortunetly.

  11. Sal June 3rd, 2008 at 12:09 am

    Let’s not coronate Bruney as God. Anyone remember the Tampa game before he got hurt and how he gave up those homers in the 7th??

  12. Sal June 3rd, 2008 at 12:10 am

    If we had good starting pitching we wouldn’t need Joba til next year in the rotation. Giving us a killer, shutdown back end of the pen.

  13. S.A.-Just win games and can someone please feed Edwar? June 3rd, 2008 at 12:12 am

    “We can also blame the decision makers who felt that Mussina would be a good #3 pitcher this year while the two young guys, Hughes and Kennedy were the 4-5 guys.

    The same Mussina who was dropped from the rotation last Aug for terrible performances and loss of stuff.”

    How has Mussina been so far this year?

    Note that I said so far, I have no idea what Mussina will bring to this team the rest of the season. Neither does anyone else.
    Will he implode in each game from here on out?
    Will he win 20 games?
    If someone has definitive answers to those questions, please give me the winning me megamillion lotto numbers for Friday too.

  14. Dan June 3rd, 2008 at 12:12 am

    I would have to disagree a little and say this game falls under the fault of the offense. Can someone lite a match under Cano or something he is horrible right now.

    Last but not least I think this was Farnsworth last opportunity in the 8th inning

  15. Come on! June 3rd, 2008 at 12:13 am

    Sure, Cashman is somewhat at fault for not signing a reliable 8th inning guy this past offseason. However, didn’t Cashman sign Farnesworth, who was suppose to be reliable, a couple off seasons ago to fill in the 8th inning role?

    Sure, Girardi could have managed better, Cashman could have had better signings, Pettite could have pitched better, but when it comes down to it, Farnesworth got the lost not because he kept the game tied, but because he gave up the winning run in the 8th inning, Period.

  16. S.A.-Just win games and can someone please feed Edwar? June 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 am

    BTW-seriously, this hockey game is friggin nuts! Great game to watch if bored

  17. BobK55 June 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 am

    3 for 16 with runners in scoring position pretty much sums it all up for me. 3 times with a man on third and less than 2 outs and NO runs scored. Yanks are losing games that they shouldn’t be.

  18. ellen June 3rd, 2008 at 12:14 am

    Dan, I hope so. Time for another 8th inning experiment. Perhaps Edwar.

  19. The Fallen Phoenix June 3rd, 2008 at 12:15 am

    I was responding directly to Pete’s query, “Blame [...] Brian Cashman for not signing a relief pitcher who could do the job in the eighth inning.” I argue there was not a relief pitcher who could be had reasonably who could do the job this offseason.

    I further argue that the Yankees have the pieces in the bullpen and their farm system *right now*. I think that such a trade, therefore, would not have been necessary.

    Rumor has it that, when Cashman tried to trade for guys like Fuentes and Marte, who were the bullpen guys available on the market this past season, they wanted prospects like Tabata and Jackson. Tabata’s been having the season of Hell right now, but you don’t trade superstar-caliber positional talent for a bullpen arm. Not when, again, there are guys in the Yankees system *right now* who could do the job for nothing but the major league minimum and the opportunity cost of having them on the roster.

  20. Come on! June 3rd, 2008 at 12:16 am

    Farnsworth*** I don’t know what I was thinking spelling it with an “e.”

  21. whoa June 3rd, 2008 at 12:16 am

    I would kill Torre for this, so I have to kill Girardi. Although he is spreading the relief innings around more than Torre did, he refuses to use Britton and refuses not to use Farnsworth. You can’t convince me that Hawkins and Farsnworth are better than Britton and Patterson. Melancon and Cox will be up when they’re ready, but in the mean timme stop the madness.

  22. whoa June 3rd, 2008 at 12:17 am

    What 8th inning guy should Cashman have signed given the inflated market prices?

  23. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 am

    dammit where is Whozat so I can gloat how my boy Jonathan Sanchez is mowing down the Mets :D

  24. Ed in PR June 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 am

    You can’t put the blame squarely on Girardi, I find this ubsurd. Especially when the GM and owners are the one who dictate who is being switched from the 8th inning setup guy into the 4th starter 3/4 into the season. Theres a chain of command in Yankeeland is there not? This is not a misguided move on the part the Manager. Farnsy is well compensated to do a job he was brought into do. Pettitte takes a large chunk of blame aswell. Even though he obviously had to eat up innings tonite he gave up the lead 1 too many times. I love people just point fingers and make accusations and “make” the next hot topic…

  25. Ben June 3rd, 2008 at 12:19 am

    I blame Farnsworth. He needs to do his job. He’s been very ineffective the last couple of weeks, and he needs to do his job.

  26. JoeT 28 in 09 June 3rd, 2008 at 12:24 am

    I have at least one foot off of the Farnsworth bandwagon, and i can no longer argue as to why the other one is still partially on.

    He does have great stuff, but 100 mph that they hit is much worse then 90 that they don’t

  27. Nate June 3rd, 2008 at 12:27 am

    Farnsworth should have been left where he was successful. In the 7th inning.

    Farnsworth was never a reliable bullpen arm. Check those postseason numbers of his.

  28. Peter June 3rd, 2008 at 12:28 am

    touche pete abe, girardi commentated enough yankee games on YES last year to know that farnsworth can’t be a reliable 8th inning guy. its inexplicable that hes trusting farnsworthless with the 8th

  29. Nate June 3rd, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Andy not holding 3 leads is pretty terrible too.

    We may just be rooting for an 83 win team here. Reality isn’t good.

  30. jrealty (formerly Jesse) June 3rd, 2008 at 12:29 am

    Can’t we just agree that if games are going to be blown; that we at least give other bullpen pitchers a fair chance to show what they’ve got?

    Girardi and Cashman remind me of kids walking around with “Kick Me” in huge letters on their back and Farnsworth continues to oblige them.

  31. frankied June 3rd, 2008 at 12:30 am

    I’m really starting to not like Girardi. I was all for his hiring as I thought he would bring a new brand of baseball to NY. Besides all of the asinine bullpen choices, what happened to all the smallball we were supposed to see? Yeah, I understand you don’t bunt A-rod and Giambi, but this is pretty much the same team as last year, that had 123 sb’s. Joe Girardi = Joe Torre! What the heck is going on here?

  32. randyhater June 3rd, 2008 at 12:30 am

    “What 8th inning guy should Cash have signed given the inflated market prices?”

    Percival, Linebrink, Dotel, Mahay, Vizcaiano (I’d take him on the DL over a “healthy” Hawkins). What’s the point of being the richest team in the sport if you’re gonna nickel and dime over your biggest need?

    Last off season everyone screamed about how overpaid Chad Bradford and Jamie Walker were. And yet if we’d had their 140 some-odd innings of above average relief as opposed to the crap we got from the guys we had, who thinks it wouldn’t have made a 2 game difference in the standings?

  33. Nate June 3rd, 2008 at 12:30 am

    Farnsworth did show this year that he was reliable.

    In the 7th inning. Some guys thrive there and wilt in the 8-9. Why not leave him where he was doing good and mix and match the 8th?

  34. Peter June 3rd, 2008 at 12:31 am

    if a player’s talent and makeup isn’t right for the 8th inning, you don’t need to give the entire 8th inning to one player. you have a certain number of players in your bullpen to use them. figure it out, its called mixing and matching

  35. pat June 3rd, 2008 at 12:31 am

    Hank speaks

    http://njmg.typepad.com/yankee.....ear-p.html

  36. Peter June 3rd, 2008 at 12:32 am

    being reliable for not even half a season isn’t being reliable.

  37. Jonah June 3rd, 2008 at 12:33 am

    How did Cashman improve this team after last yrs first rd loss?

    Signing Hawkins???
    Knowing he was moving Joba and not bringing in someone of note in the pen.
    Not bringing in a lefty.
    Having two rookies in the rotation and Mussina.

    Don’t get me started about how he strengthened that bench.

    This is the Yankees. Sometimes you got to pay market prices for players. I do not get the nickel and dime attitude that Cashman has all the sudden.

  38. Jeepers Creepers June 3rd, 2008 at 12:34 am

    Had the OFFENSE not blown all those opportunities the game wouldn’t have been lost. It was a team effort to lose this game.

  39. Billy Bo June 3rd, 2008 at 12:34 am

    Hank watches Santana dominate on national tv one night than sees our SP blow 3 leads the next.

    Bye Bye Brian.

  40. whoa June 3rd, 2008 at 12:35 am

    You nailed it, Pete. Girardi’s shown me nothing as a manager, other than that he likes to throw his weight around and remind the world that he’s in charge.
    ___

    This statement is laughable. He has been on the job for two months. Two of his best hitters were out for long periods of the season. Just stop.

  41. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 3rd, 2008 at 12:36 am

    SPEAK IT HANK ! LET’EM KNOW ! :lol:

  42. Sal June 3rd, 2008 at 12:36 am

    The pen is whatever but the starting pitching is awful this year. That ax falls on the guy who assembled the roster.

  43. V June 3rd, 2008 at 12:37 am

    “Hank speaks

    http://njmg.typepad.com/yankee.....ear-p.html

    Sweet. I think we’ll be liking this dynasty.

    Cashman haters, he ain’t going anywhere ;-)

  44. Sal June 3rd, 2008 at 12:37 am

    Who cares what Hank says? He obviously has no power or we would see Santana pitching every 5th day.

    He’s not his father.

  45. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 3rd, 2008 at 12:38 am

    Pete, your point is exactly right…

    They had a plan to make Joba a starter…

    So why was there no plan for the void he would leave in the bullpen?

    How could Farnsworth have been the plan?

  46. whoa June 3rd, 2008 at 12:38 am

    Hank’s comments are spot on…for a change.

  47. V June 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 am

    “Percival, Linebrink, Dotel, Mahay, Vizcaiano”

    Percival wanted a closer gig, not a setup gig. And there’s no way he finishes the season healthy.

    That deal for Linebrink is ridiculous. Pass.

    Dotel – haven’t we been there, done that?

    Vizcaino got us a draft pick, no?

    Mahay’s one I’d like. Who knows if Cashman made him an offer? What if he declined?

  48. Jonah June 3rd, 2008 at 12:39 am

    I still don’t see how one can be pro Cashman looking at his resume and the Stick Michaels coattails hes ridden this far.

    So he finally started drafting well. Thank God it only took 8 years into the job, Cash!

  49. RustyJohn June 3rd, 2008 at 12:40 am

    It is eerie that Pete and I seem to be having the same thoughts for the past week.

    The first thing that happened during dinner when I saw Farnsworth take the mound was try to blurt out an expletive, but my mouth was full of burrito so I just spit meat everywhere.

    The next thing that happened, after being able to talk, was I screamed, “What the **** is Girardi doing?!?!”

    Would have to concur with Whoa- this is a Cluelss Joe (Torre) move and I would have been all over him, Girardi gets no passes for this one- I don’t understand his infatuation with Farnsworth.

    The guy gives up a run every other outing. Right now the two dudes on the bottom of the pen depth chart should be Farnsworth and Hawkins. Edwar should be the 8th inning guy and, behind him, Britton and Veras. I am still curious to see how Ohlendorf does with consistent 1 inning work instead of this long relief crap that they’ve got him doing. When’s Albaladejo coming back?

    As for Cashman’s role in this, I can’t fault him too much because (again as Whoa says) the relief market was thin (remember how much Vizcaino got from CO?) and if the team didn’t have all the injury issues they’d have a lot more options. Hello- look at the DL- Kennedy, Hughes, Alby, and Bruney.

    Yes, the offense failed to score with 8 million opportunities against Hernandez tonight and Pettite gave up the lead, but when it comes to game management, a managers most direct impact on the outcome of the game (other than filling out the line-up card) is bullpen management. To bring Farnsworth in is unexcusable.

  50. whoa June 3rd, 2008 at 12:40 am

    Percival, Linebrink, Dotel, Mahay, Vizcaiano (I’d take him on the DL over a “healthy” Hawkins). What’s the point of being the richest team in the sport if you’re gonna nickel and dime over your biggest need?

    Last off season everyone screamed about how overpaid Chad Bradford and Jamie Walker were. And yet if we’d had their 140 some-odd innings of above average relief as opposed to the crap we got from the guys we had, who thinks it wouldn’t have made a 2 game difference in the standing.
    ___

    They tried to sign Percival, but he wanted to close.

    Linebrink, Dotel, Mahay signed stupid contract.

    Viz? The Yankees are getting a sandwich pick for him, and he has had arm problems at times.

  51. Sal June 3rd, 2008 at 12:41 am

    I see bringing in young pitchers and building the pen from within but ask the Rays how that has gone for the past few years before they went out and got Wheeler, Percival, and Reyes.

  52. Jonah June 3rd, 2008 at 12:42 am

    Torre was real bad at bullpen management as he cruised to 90+ victories every single year.

    Poor Torre!

  53. whoa June 3rd, 2008 at 12:42 am

    I still don’t see how one can be pro Cashman looking at his resume…
    ____

    Mussina, A-Rod, Joba, Hughes, Abreu, Cano, Wang, Melancon, A-Jack, Cox, Brackman, Montero, Almonte……

  54. Steve's Subs June 3rd, 2008 at 12:43 am

    They should have easily gone 6-1 on this trip. 3-4 is horrendous.

    Now we got Joba for 3 innings tomorrow and then 18 outs from the pen. Against Doc Halladay.

    Fun times.

  55. Jonah June 3rd, 2008 at 12:46 am

    “Mussina, A-Rod, Joba, Hughes, Abreu, Cano, Wang, Melancon, A-Jack, Cox, Brackman, Montero, Almonte……”

    You just listed me 7 guys who are 2 to 3 years away from even thinking of wearing a jersey. That’s his great resume since he took over huh? So, this century Cashman has brought on 3 good players via FA or trades. And we all know how bad the system was from 98-2006. Great work, Cash!!

  56. S.A.-Just win games and can someone please feed Edwar? June 3rd, 2008 at 12:47 am

    PITTSBURGH! It’s not over yet!

  57. whoa June 3rd, 2008 at 12:50 am

    You just listed me 7 guys who are 2 to 3 years away from even thinking of wearing a jersey. That’s his great resume since he took over huh? So, this century Cashman has brought on 3 good players via FA or trades. And we all know how bad the system was from 98-2006. Great work, Cash!!
    ___

    Define taking over? He had no power over the draft until he signed his last contract. As a result, the farm system wasn’t producing much ML talent.

    He didn’t have complete control over the ML roster until his last contract, so he had to scramble for pitching.

    Every baseball expert wanted Weaver, Pavano, and Vazquez when he acquired them. They didn’t work out, it happens.

    He didn’t want to do the RJ deal, he didn’t want Womack, and he didn’t want Jaret Wright.

    Meanwhile, he has won 3 rings.

    You really need some perspective and more facts.

  58. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 3rd, 2008 at 12:52 am

    “PITTSBURGH! It’s not over yet!”

    what happened a trade w/ the Pirates ?

  59. RustyJohn June 3rd, 2008 at 12:52 am

    Nickel and dime? When you are over the salary cap and paying $1.40 for every dollar of additional salary AND building a billion dollar stadium it is hard to justify spending $250 million a year on a roster.

    As far as middle relief is concerned, there are plenty of guys who can do the job (6th inning, 7th inning or 8th inning) and get through an inning without giving up a run every other game. Unfortunately it is not Kyle Farnsworth. Pretty much anyone in that situation would be better than Farnsworth- it isn’t the fact that he gives up the occassional hit- he gives up hits in bunches and hitters slug the heck out of him.

  60. BigV June 3rd, 2008 at 12:55 am

    AS my TRADEMARK SIGNOFF – TRADE FARNSWORTH………..

    earlier in the season, and also right after the great spring he had – I predicted this absolute breakdown and screamed to the top of my lungs trade this guy while he had some value. Forget anything in return – it was about clearing space and money and most importantly the devastating affect his pitching does to morale. IT is absolutely silly to have this guy on a playoff caliber team.

    But Cashmans’s ego is toooooooo big – His ego has gotten in the way a number of times – and don’t get me wrong – I really like the guy – but HE DOESN’T KNOW HOW TO CUT HIS LOSSES!!!! perhaps it is youth – I don’t know

    IGAWA is another example – THIS WAS A MISTAKE – he wants to go to Japan – send him there. You can’t hide the guy in AAA his whole contract.

    Hard to say what Patterson would have done if Kyle was traded but that was his spot on the roster.

    THe answer may not be Cox or Melancon but ……..

    DAVID ROBERTSON

    http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=502085

    TRADE FARNSWORTH

  61. RSM June 3rd, 2008 at 12:59 am

    Watching Farnsworth micturate away another game was frustrating, but IMO he carries the least blame.

    The offense continues to flounder with runners in scoring position. Several opportunities with men on 3rd and less than two outs. Am I crazy to think a major league hitter should be able to at least hit the ball in the air? Just make friggin contact! The Yanks had plenty of opportunity to bury the Twins tonight and couldn’t get it done.

    But bottom line, the biggest fault lies with Pettitte. I love the guy, but he was handed a 2 run lead and blew it THREE TIMES!!!

    I knew people would immediately focus on Farnsworth, but he wasn’t the real problem tonight.

  62. Nick in SF June 3rd, 2008 at 1:00 am

    From the end of the previous post:

    “The bridge to Mariano can be the difference between games won and games lost.”

    Sure. Any inning can be the difference between winning and losing a game.

    I don’t recall any of the serious posters on here suggesting that Joba should move to the rotation and that “the rest would take care of itself.” Nor do I recall any of those posters saying that the need for good relief in late innings was overrated. I do recall several people saying that the importance of the 8th inning above all others was being overrated by those who were arguing that Joba had to stay in the bullpen. Which is a good point.

    No one wants his or her opinion misrepresented in the least flattering light just so someone can take a shot on a baseball blog.

    “Well we have seen the unraveling of games because we don’t have the solid 8th inning man there anymore.”

    We’ve seen far more games lost because of poor starting pitching, both in games in which the starter was blown out early and games like tonight’s in which the starter coughed up multiple leads. I didn’t watch most of tonight’s game, but when I turned it on the game was tied and Farnsworth was just about to let the Twins go ahead. How would Joba pitching in a tie game have guaranteed a Yankee victory?

    “Did the Joba to the rotation supporters think that the tooth fairy was going to show up to pitch the 8th for the Yankees?”

    Did you not read the serious arguments that were made by the proponents of moving Joba to the rotation? Because that’s not a serious response. Nobody suggested any such thing.

    It is possible to hold the view that Joba should be in the rotation while simultaneously holding the view that Farnsworth and Hawkins aren’t reliable. One’s views about Joba do not make one responsible for the shortcomings of Farns and Hawkins.

    “The problem here is that there are too many GMs on this blog…”

    If so, for whom is that a problem?

    “I will posit that it is better to be positive than negative, optimistic than pessimistic, and to take a long view of a long season and not behead every player based on the current view.”

    And I will posit that on Pete Abe’s LuHud Yankee blog, critical and realistic thoughts about the current state of the team and its players are both allowed and encouraged. Intelligent discussion makes for a more interesting comments section than pure rooting. There’s room for both.

  63. RSM June 3rd, 2008 at 1:01 am

    On a side note, I do find it amazing that a paitcher with Farnsworth’s “stuff” is so ineffective.

  64. Nick in SF June 3rd, 2008 at 1:06 am

    Small quibble with Pete Abe’s post. Joba didn’t start the year in the bullpen because of distrust for Kyle Farnsworth, he started in the bullpen because of his innings limit.

  65. GoYanks June 3rd, 2008 at 1:07 am

    Nick in SF,

    Good post – refuting, discussing what was “said”, not attacking the person.

    Enjoy your posts.

  66. RustyJohn June 3rd, 2008 at 1:14 am

    As far as Joe T’s record- yes, I seem to recall a team that scored around 950 runs last year. I could manage a game and win if they scored 7 runs a game.

    Cashman can’t be “blamed” for the latest predicament. He is attempting to completely rebuild this team while still trying to contend- even the Red Sox sucked it up a couple of years ago and now look at them? Now people are proposing dumping good prospects for middle relief. If these folks were Red Sox fans they’d probably have demanded Pedroia be traded for George Sherrill two years ago.

    So, if we have a .500+ team for a year in exchange for having a good, cheap homegrown pitching and shed $80 mil in payroll for next year to be spent on younger position players, so be it. Cashman is one of the top 5 GM’s.

    You want to complain and see what happens when you piss away your farm system and try to build through FA’s? Move out here to Seattle and enjoy the debacle known as the Mariners- with the 6th or 7th highest payroll in the game blown on such stellar starting pitchers as Washburn (10 million a year), Batista (10 million a year), and Silva (8 million) while their Joba equivalent Brandon Morrow rots in the bullpen because the GM and manager don’t have the gonads to sit one of their FA mistakes.

    You can enjoy past their prime “stars” like Sexson (hitting .220 and getting paid $15.5 million a year), Ibanez (the range of an 86 year old on dialysis), and Vidro as your DH (9 million a year to hit .230 with 3 homers). The mentality of win now and trade away everything is what got us here to begin with.

  67. Patrick Bateman June 3rd, 2008 at 1:17 am

    Cashman should have signed Kerry Wood instead of the disaster known as Latroy Hawkins.

    And after reading your article Peter about how he wanted the draft pick from Vizcaino, Wood wouldn’t have cost him a draft pick either. So he’s got no excuse signing a guy who was a complete mess the last time he was in the AL.

  68. Jeepers Creepers June 3rd, 2008 at 1:17 am

    If Andy didn’t keep handing the game back to the Twinkies, then Farnsworth giving up a run wouldn’t have meant all that much. Pettitte gave up more runs than Farnsworth, so who did the worse job?

    What I see as a problem with the pitching is they keep going after the hottest hitters. Cuddyer was on fire and the Yankees obliged him by giving him something to hit. Isn’t it better to walk a player who is hitting that well than give up doubles or worse? Figures though, any time the Yankees face a player or a team that is struggling offensively, the Yankees bust them out of slumps.

    I have no great love of Farnsworth. He is what he is. To blame him for the loss isn’t quite fair though. Yes, he should have been able to hold them, but the offense grounding into a DP instead of getting a few hits didn’t help.

  69. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 3rd, 2008 at 1:19 am

    “It is possible to hold the view that Joba should be in the rotation while simultaneously holding the view that Farnsworth and Hawkins aren’t reliable.”

    True. But then what do you do about such a gaping void in the late innings?

    Refresh my memory, Nick in SF, what was your solution for out late inning woes…?

    What was your proposed solution for the late inning woes we would surely face minus Joba in the pen…?

  70. CaptainsCorner June 3rd, 2008 at 1:20 am

    Ohh please Farns. should be blamed. He gets paid to do a job and he hasn’t done it since he arrived here. Let him actually go out here get people out and not make an absolute fool of himself. I am sure next year the same thing will happen like it does with every other pitcher he will sign with some pathetic team and be great for them. I know it is hard to say great and Farns in the same sentence but it wouldn’t surprise me. We have seen it with every other NY diaaster.

  71. JoeT 28 in 09 June 3rd, 2008 at 1:20 am

    I have to agree with the point – he couldn’t do the job last year so we rushed Joba through the system, so why would he be able to do the job now – there’s no argument there… great point Pete

    Hopefully one of the arms in the minors or currently on the roster will be able to fill in the void… heck, maybe Chris Britton will see the field again

  72. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 3rd, 2008 at 1:23 am

    “Nick in SF,

    Good post – refuting, discussing what was “said”, not attacking the person.

    Enjoy your posts.”

    you should catch him when he defends Igawa (j/k Nick :lol: )

  73. Bob June 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 am

    It’s moves like Farnsworth that will play a part in justifying Cashman losing his job after the season.

    I’m sick of hearing all the talking heads say you can’t take Joba out of the pen because then you have to use Farnsworth.

    Wrong. Joba is a starter and always was going to be.

    Farnsworth has proven his inabilty to handle the role for years and continuing to use him that way is either sheer stubborness or pure stupidity. Either way, it’s justification for losing your job.

  74. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 3rd, 2008 at 1:24 am

    Nick in SF,

    What are your expectations for Joba’s start tomorrow, by the way?

    Think he’ll go at least 5 innings?

    I have to admit, even though I still feel we need him in the Pen, it will be interesting to see what he can do as a starter…

  75. Wangawa June 3rd, 2008 at 1:25 am

    should have gotten scott linebrink, even if we had to overpay a little, and not wasted any money on a guy like hawkins

  76. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 3rd, 2008 at 1:25 am

    “Refresh my memory, Nick in SF, what was your solution for out late inning woes…?

    What was your proposed solution for the late inning woes we would surely face minus Joba in the pen…?”

    I think it is BP by commitee until someone earns it or Melancon gets ready, but you never listen to the answer so why should he give you one :lol:

  77. RustyJohn June 3rd, 2008 at 1:26 am

    Um, I think the title of the post was “Don’t blame Farnsworth” because there was agreement that Farnsworth is not the most reliable arm- he is a known quantity so why put him in this position? If Girardi were batting Molina clean-up would you say, “Molina is to blame! He’s a major league hitter, there is no excuse why he should have gone 1 for 5 with a single, 2 GIDP and 2 K’s!” You’d be saying, “What the **** is Girardi doing batting Molina clean-up?”

  78. Nick in SF June 3rd, 2008 at 1:27 am

    Dynasty, “my” solution is that there are other arms in the pipeline that will hopefully improve the bullpen. I never suggested that Farnsworth or Hawkins were the solution. You know this well already.

    Furthermore, was this game really lost due to “late inning woes”? Did Farnsworth flush away an Andy Pettitte gem? All I know is that is was 5-5 when I got home and turned on the TV and after I saw one pitch it was 6-5. Did Farns give up those first 5 runs too?

  79. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 3rd, 2008 at 1:27 am

    Anyone here care to make predictions about Joba’s start tomorrow?

  80. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 3rd, 2008 at 1:29 am

    “Anyone here care to make predictions about Joba’s start tomorrow?”

    why not just wait to see what he does..P.S. if he bombs tomorrow will you wait it out more than one start before you deem him not a SP ?

  81. Nick in SF June 3rd, 2008 at 1:30 am

    I predict that Joba will throw a perfect game, getting 27 outs in 27 pitches, and then he will be the first pitcher in history to throw a perfect game and then have to go throw more in the bullpen to get his work in.

  82. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 3rd, 2008 at 1:30 am

    ““my” solution is that there are other arms in the pipeline that will hopefully improve the bullpen.”

    Nick, yes, I think that’s probably the prudent course…I’d be surprised if this bullpen can be fixed from within…

  83. Bob June 3rd, 2008 at 1:32 am

    Who cares who pitches the 8th the rest of this season anyways?

    Do any of you, given a dose of truth serum, honestly beleive this is a championshi caliber team? I surely don’t. Get Joba settled into the rotation, get Hughes and kennedy back, and let them all get their legs under them for 2009.

    Anything can happen, but this season is just gonna be a daily bounce between over and under .500. You all are watching the same thing I am everynight, aren’t you?

  84. DYNASTY IS DESTINY! June 3rd, 2008 at 1:33 am

    Brandon,

    I would definitely urge patience…how can you determine whether or not one is a good starting pitcher based on one start?

    That would be ridiculous…

  85. Bob June 3rd, 2008 at 1:34 am

    Brandon, you know that’s what’s gonna happen. Joba will be a bit shaky, Halladay will shut the Yanks down, and all the idiots will be proclaiming what a huge mistake it was moving Joba back to his real job.

    In my mind, win or lose, tomorrow is a great day for the Yankees just for the sheer fact Joba is back to starting.

  86. Sar 515 June 3rd, 2008 at 1:35 am

    This was one of the more frustrating games in an already frustrating season…

    It seems like the Yanks were scoring about 20 runs…but somehow you knew they’d lose. Truth is the didn’t scre 20 runs…though they could have. A-Rod mashes in Minny…he did tonite too…except with 1 out and a man on 3rd. Then when Chad Moeller (bless his trying little heart) bats with 1st and 3rd one out…we might question Cash on perhaps having a contact hitter on the bench besides Shelly…Molina..and (Not much) “Betterment”. A fly ball…a grounder with a speedy runner. Anyone out there??? Then it’s Krazy Kyle…you’re right don’t blame him…just get rid of him. I really thinks the players know he’s not going to come through.

    It’s just the first week in June and I still believe…but games like this MUST be won.

    By the way…anyone else thinks Gomes going after Shelly set the rays off on this season??

  87. Nick in SF June 3rd, 2008 at 1:35 am

    Also, I would not be shocked if the original plan wasn’t to have Joba’s transition come a little later in the season and that’s it’s been moved up because of the dual problems of Hughes and Kennedy. If that’s the case, the crunch is worse now because it means less of the reinforcements and more of the status quo. Just speculation.

  88. Patrick Bateman June 3rd, 2008 at 1:35 am

    Farnsworth hasn’t been reliable, but the rotation is in rough shape.

    For all the wins Wang has, if his sinker is not working, he’s going to have a bad start. Not the kind of starter I’d want to put my money on in a playoff start with everything on the line.

    Pettitte looks dazed and confused this year.

    Mussina is a ticking timebomb.

    Hughes and Kennedy are golfing with Pavano in Florida.

    Rasner has been overpeforming.

  89. Patrick Bateman June 3rd, 2008 at 1:42 am

    “Cashman can’t be “blamed” for the latest predicament. He is attempting to completely rebuild this team while still trying to contend- even the Red Sox sucked it up a couple of years ago and now look at them”

    Actually he can be blamed. The reason why we’re in this situation is because of him. Who do you think built this rotation? Who signed Igawa instead of Ted Lilly? Who signed Farnsworth, Jaret Wright, Pavano, Hawkins? Who built a bench around Morgan Ensberg, Shelley Duncan, Wilson Betemit?

    The problem isn’t that he’s trying to rebuild, its that he’s trying to do it all while reducing payroll. This is the New York Yankees, an empire worth 3B between the team and YES and this guy is pinching pennies signing relievers like Hawkins and throwing away 46M on Igawa?

    Time to pack it up Brian, your 15 minutes of fame should have ended in 2004.

  90. RSM June 3rd, 2008 at 1:43 am

    “I predict that Joba will throw a perfect game, getting 27 outs in 27 pitches, and then he will be the first pitcher in history to throw a perfect game and then have to go throw more in the bullpen to get his work in.”

    Now that would be interesting!

    My guess…With all the pressure and attention, I think Joba is going to try to be too perfect and try to strike everyone out. That will result in a high pitch count. I’d be surprised if he lasts three innings.

  91. MoBoy June 3rd, 2008 at 1:48 am

    Can we trade Kennedy and Tabatha and somebody else for Huston Street.Then I’m all for Joba as a starter.

    And starting pitching 50 years ago with the mounds raised,steroids,AL lineups,pitchers not going past 6 innings and pitch counts.Lets see Joba play the rest of the year before saying he’s a ace.

  92. Sar 515 June 3rd, 2008 at 1:49 am

    Since everyone in baseball now knows the plan to keep Joba to 65-70 pitches…I predict the Jays will be working the count to get to our “shut-down” bullpen. I say 4 1/3…2 runs…and a standing O.

  93. G. Love June 3rd, 2008 at 2:19 am

    I think this is what the real Cashman plan was from the get go.

    19 wins – Wang
    16 wins – Pettitte
    15 wins – Hughes
    12 wins – Kennedy
    10 wins – Mussina

    Joba in 7th and 8th and Mo to close. Playoffs and World Series to follow.

    He was not mentioning Mussina anywhere as a #3 starter in the pre-season and to say so now is wrong.

    The real backup plan was if Mussina bombed, consider moving Joba into rotation at ASB if needed.

    When the balloon burst and his pie in the sky #3 (hughes) and #4 (IPK) spit the bit, he had no plan.

    Rasner was DFA’d this past off season. No one in MLB wanted him. He was brought back to the organization as a potential long man, possible spot starter, but Cashman’s real plan was Karstens who if you didn’t notice, was AWFUL all spring and could not get outs with the team desperately handing him a job.

    When Karstens injuries popped up, then the plan really started to fall apart when Horne, who was the other part of the plan got hurt.

    Then Marquez, didn’t pitch lights out at AAA.

    Then he actually needed to promote Igawa and have one his worst mistakes as a GM in professional sports, an epic mistake if the guy never becomes a major leaguer, come up and remind us all how poor a job he did building this rotation.

    He has done a horrid job building the big club. His entire focus is on the minor leagues.

    He should be fired.

    I can guarantee all of you something, out of all you puppy dog fans who think our future OF is Jackson, Tabats and Gardner, only 1 of those 3 will make it as a starting player in the majors.

    You know why? Because that’s the odds when it comes to prospects. Most of them do not pan out.

    That’s why you trade some of them when you depth (like we have 2000 RH pitchers in the minors) and you get pieces for your major league team.

    When the trade market opens up, if Cashman does not make moves to help the big club, he should be fired before the end of the season.

    Kyle Farnsworth in the 8th should be over. If they continue to shove this down our throats, then they seriously don’t have any desire to win ballgames.

  94. dougj1 June 3rd, 2008 at 2:54 am

    GLOVE- I had to read 94 posts before I read something that made sense. Fans do not realize that the most important person on a ballclub is the GM….Until Yanks get a competent GM we will continue to see this once great franchise turn into an also ran…..

  95. Joe June 3rd, 2008 at 6:49 am

    whozat,

    You asked me yesterday who it was that ever said JB Cox could be a late inning/8th inning guy. Here it is right on the front page of the blog.

    I’ll say it again…I don’t think Cox is what people think he is. He has average velocity, doesn’t have great strikeout numbers and pitches to LOTS of contact. Groundballs are great, but 8th inning guys need to be able to get swing and misses, too.

    Cox might end up giving useful middle innings, but he should not be mentioned in the same breath as the big time arms the Yankees have acquired in the past few years as he was lumped with Melancon by Peter Abraham. They are not the same pitcher.

  96. Toast June 3rd, 2008 at 6:53 am

    I’m not here to defend Farnsworth, but last night is all on Andy. Three leads? Seriously?

  97. Alan June 3rd, 2008 at 7:38 am

    Blowing 3 leads and stranding runners take just as much blame as Farnsworth. This team loves living on the edge and not providing cushions for relievers to work with.
    Every pitch becomes unnecessarily ctitical.

  98. Rick June 3rd, 2008 at 7:38 am

    Everybody is bragging about the Yankee farm system. Tonight is the real test for it—Joba. If he fails as a starter the Yankee farm system will be nothing to talk about anymore.Look at the record of it this year one failure after another and one disaster after another when a prospect is given the chance to contribute. Most of the players they bring up like Ohlendorf are marginal major leaguers.

  99. Paulie June 3rd, 2008 at 7:47 am

    I agree that this is not just a Farnsworth issue. He cant help it if he just really sucks but they contiue to roll him out there and hope that no one will notice. The pure and simple reason for all of this is that Cashman and company have put together a terrible pitching staff. The staff is like a ballon. You squeeeze it in one place and it pops out in another. Move a reliever to a starter then the reliever spot pops out. If you stand back and look at the total landscape its pretty scary, not only this year but next. We started with two AAA pitchers who arent ready for the big ‘s. One who is a Pavano clone and the other cant fighure out why people think he sucks. We have the new “Ace” Moose who on his best day throws 85 mph “heaters” Wang has lost his way and Pettit can no longer hit his spots. But not to worry we have Joba coming who will pitch partial games for the next three weeks then turn it over to the “studs” in the bullpen like Hawkins, Orlendorf(another triple AAA pitcher who needs more time) and Farnsworth. With these etup men Mariano will be like the Maytag repair man waiting for a save opportunity. Next year is even worse with both Moose and Pettit possibly gone leaving the starter role to Igawa and others. Where the bright spots on a staff where money was no object? Even if you say we need to be patience I dont see the future being any brighter than it is now. Cashman bet the farm on Hughes and Kennedy and came up a loser again. I guess being a solid .500 team is all you get these days for your $200.

  100. Fredo Corleone June 3rd, 2008 at 7:51 am

    “Don’t blame Farnsworth for losing the game tonight. Blame Joe Girardi’s misguided faith in him”

    How about his misguided faith in Pettitte??? Left him in just long to blow THREE leads.

    “How has Mussina been so far this year?”

    Decidedly number 4 or 5-ish. He’s made 12 starts, has only 5 quality starts in those 12, averages 15 outs per start, posts an ordinary ERA, and has been a drain on the bullpen. Otherwise, he’s been superb.

  101. Jorge Steinbrenner (the long lost third brother) June 3rd, 2008 at 8:09 am

    blame the team who went back to its big-spending ways the early part of this decade and thought three years of Kyle Farnsworth at $9 million a year was a good idea.

    was there ever really an “8th inning guy” before we overpaid for Tom Gordon, before we overpaid for Farnsworth?

    the contract will come off the books at the end of the year. that may not necessarily make us better next year, but it will sure make us more flexible.

  102. sfill June 3rd, 2008 at 8:19 am

    I blame pettite for blowing the lead how many times last night and I blame joe girardi for having faith in “Farnsy” for some reason that no one understands. This year’s bullpen is scaring me. I just don’t feel confident in anyone (well, other than Mo) – I am ok with ramirez; i think he put a lot of hard work in with pedro over the off season and it shows. He is clearly improved since last year. I just don’t think we should be putting farnsowrthless in the game unless we have a 5 run lead anymore.

  103. IRON June 3rd, 2008 at 8:33 am

    JB Cox can do the job…. he was shutdown at TEXAS…..Fansworth-less, trust is gone, ability lost, faith adios. Note, not one vetern{Giambi, A-Rod or Capt Jeets} came to console him during his implosion. Bring up JB

  104. 86w183 June 3rd, 2008 at 8:37 am

    It’s hard to know how much to blame Cahsman, because in Yankeeland you’re never certain who makes which final decision. Certainly “Cash” gets credit for improved drafting since the overthrow of the “Tampa Mafia”. Igawa was a disaster, granted, but there was a ton of competition for Farnswurst and Pavano.

    This team won’t get on a run until its adds a igh quality LEFTY for the bullpen and an equally high qualty RH bat to mitigate the horrific performances against LHP. My biggest criticism of Cashman is that these were glaring problems heading into the off-season, yet were ignored while the Yankees resigned the four stars and took a flier on Hawkins.

    The next four months will be fascinating, followed by the most intriguing offseason in years with almost $ 90 million coming off the books.

    Over the next four months the Yanks have to determine which young arms to move for critical pieces and which ones must be held on to. I think it’s safe to say Hughes, Melancon, Brackman are unotuchable and it would take something special to get Ramirez, Ohelndorf, Cox or Veras. That might make Horne the most valuable trade chip along with some of the lower minor league guys.

  105. Boston Dave June 3rd, 2008 at 9:00 am

    wow, even Pete falls prey to making criticisms without supplying a reasonable alternative.

    Buying 8th inning men in free agency is far from a sure thing (see: Kyle Farnsworth several years ago). The Yanks likely knew they had a slew of arms in the minors. Having watched teams like San Diego and some of the other successful bullpens in the league build theirs from within, the Yanks decided to go that route.

    This blog has become a bunch of panicking micro-managers that can’t see the big picture. It’s great to discuss these things but the constant panicking after every play as if the season is over has become unreadable.

    also, its not even a lock that Joba enters the 8th inning last night in a tie game (especially considering he would have pitched in several games earlier in the series).

  106. Boston Dave June 3rd, 2008 at 9:29 am

    p.s. I think it’s fine to make the point that Joba should have stayed in the pen until they had a viable alternative.

    However, saying “Cashman is to blame for not signing an 8th inning reliever” and then not giving a suggestion or two – reasonable moves Cash could have made but didn’t, is a recipe for a weak argument.

  107. Martin June 3rd, 2008 at 9:59 am

    Very well said. Nice job Pete. Fax this to the front office.

  108. vin June 3rd, 2008 at 10:15 am

    Hey Rick– Don’t know who your team is but this has to be one of the more ridiculous comments of the year: Tonite is”the real test” for the Yankees farm system.

    Oh, so it doesn’t matter that Joba has already proved one of the best relief men in baseball. It all depends on what he does tonite.

    Mike Lupica couldn’t have said it better.

  109. Bob June 3rd, 2008 at 10:47 am

    What you say is all true, Pete, but the game story was Andy coughing up 3 leads, not Krazy Kyle’s performance.

    Bob

  110. Rick June 3rd, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    vin,

    this is a test tonight for the farm system. Joba has been anointed by everyone as the phenom starter. If he falls on his face over the next few weeks like all the other young pitchers that were over-hyped by the yankees as the jewels of a great farm system, then it is the right of everyone to step back and ask how good the yankee farm system is or at least how it is being run.

  111. george June 3rd, 2008 at 12:47 pm

    well, blame Farnsworth too insofar as he’s accountable for consistently making crappy pitches.

    unless he’s planning to give back a lot of his salary to offset his underperformance. he’s being paid as though he’s a good pitcher for key slots.

  112. Bill June 3rd, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    Everyone’s overreacting. In the spring, I think I remember Pete praising Cashman for not panicing and locking in rich, 3 year deals for Dotel, Linebrink or Vizcaino. Our bullpen today will not be the bullpen we close the season with. There will be help from our bullpen prospects in the minors in the 2nd half, and if we don’t find solutions internally then Cashman will trade for someone else. Its hard to blame him for wanting to see what we had internally before giving away top prospects for middle releivers. I think I remember Pete saying that the 8th inning is overrated and that a lot of people could fill that role. What’s changed?

  113. EN June 3rd, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Jonah: Your comments are right on the money!
    Cashman has done Squat to improve this team since he
    was foolish enough to allow Clemens, Pettite, and Wells
    to leave after the 2002 season! How in the hell do you
    let 3/5 of your starting pitching go in one year!
    Cashman has still been unable to rebuild the staff!
    He brought in Vasquez, Randy Johnson, Kevin Brown,
    Carl Pavano(has he pitched 5 games for the Yanks?),
    Loiza etc! In the bullpen he brought in Benitez, Farnsworth,
    Gordon, etc! Currently you have Mussina who is almost 40 in the rotation and Pettite is is still effective at 36 and
    Wang but if either Mussina or Pettite gets hurt the Yanks are done for the year! God knows who the fifth starter is!
    Anyway you slice it Cashman is not and has not done the job
    for quite some time! He has to go(should have been fired along with Torre)!

  114. Vagitek June 3rd, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Aren’t you afraid that Farns will shoot you for this?

  115. K-rod June 3rd, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Trade Farns for a bag of Rocks

  116. ramar June 3rd, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    Pettite lost this game!!! Not once or twice but THREE times. Farnsworthless is just that!

  117. Vic D June 4th, 2008 at 11:48 am

    This is the most absurd blog entry you’ve ever written. “Don’t blame Farnsworth blame the people that choose to play him.” Under these conditions Farnsworth should be DFA’d. When a major league pitcher of Farnsworth’s skills and salary fails, yes it’s the front office’s fault for signing him but the majority of the blame must go on the player who is unable to fulfill his end of the bargin. I know you’ve defended Farnsworth time and time again this season, stating his wonderful manners and the like and I take your word on his value as a young man, perhaps he should work with you in the press box. It’s Farnsworth’s fault he can’t rise to the level of pitcher the Yankees need, not the team’s for giving him a golden chance to succeed on the big stage.

  118. Alex June 9th, 2008 at 8:10 pm

    Although I have been a huge Cashman fan for years based on the fact that I think he understands player development better than 99% of people in the game I have to say he just keeps doing the same thing and it keeps backfiring. He thinks he can put together a mediocre bullpen and and old or unexpired rotation in hopes that he hits on a few of these players and makes up the rest through the farm system. At some point he has to face the fact that putting together a major league bullpen IS important or else he will probably loose his job at the end of the year. The only blame I can place on Girardi is that he continues to go with Farnsworth over a far more skilled Edwar Ramirez, however I do have to admit he has almost nothing to work with. Hopefully Melancon and/or Cox comes up and can work in the pen with Edwar and Mariano to close out games, and based on Cashman’s track record with young pitchers it seems possible, however that is still probably a few months away. This could be a long summer.

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