so if hughes/joba/other are ready for prime-time in 3 years, you now have other key replacements that you need to find

the easy answer is they should of started this trasistion after 2004 … i wasnt calling for it but i’m also not the GM

so is it really awful if cashman is replaced after this year

maybe it isnt

10% increase is not a good idea, look at this example. Say a reliever’s limit is at 40 pitches. Going by a 10% increase his limit will be 44, 48, 53, 58, 64, 70, 77, 85, 94, 103. Initially his limit increases by only 4 pitches but later on it increases by 9. There should be an even rate of increase. Also going by that schedule the pitcher will take 50 days to get up to 100 pitches. In spring training a pitcher starts out having not pitched at all and increases his workload to 100 pitches in half the time.

-The season is over
-Its a rebuilding year
-We dont have the young talent to compete with our inter divisions young talent.
-Sell your season tickets when team sucks or renegotiate.
-Bullpen sucks and there isnt any answers in the near future.
-CAPITALIZING AND PUNCTUATING MAKES ALL YOU WRITE RIGHT!!?
-raymagnetic has been in a coma for 3 months. So has the Yankees.
-Dump Edwar for having a bad game.

I do want to add one to this list. Bench Cano. Last night, everyone blamed Molina for the throw.When he could of easily snagged it and tagged Rios(i believe)out. Continues to swing at first pitches. Time to send a message.

One last thing. Im going to be in the minority that thinks we still can take this division. If we were 7 games back August 1st. Id still feel the same.

Wish i lived in NY to buy those season tickets.

just as an aside, from another thread, when i threw out the 10 % increase in workload from one week to another for young pitchers that was my own personal beliefs. major league teams increase it more as the yankees are with joba.

Now if Giamibi planned on saving up for a trip to Spain and waited until now to go, then yes, he got screwed. He should have went back in 2001 but so should have we all.

at some point ,as veterans lose jobs not because they aren’t better , but because they aren’t cheaper, they will decide the 6 year rule is not a good idea.

it was the players union and marvin miller who liked the idea of the 6 year rule because they thought it increased the free agent prices.

there will always be market changes in the system.
there is no one plan that will work even in a constrained marketplace. there will always be new trends. what works this year won’t work three years from now.

i think that whatever works in a given year , the yankees should be on top of it. they do, as blargh says, have a monopoly in new york. joe malloy the pe teacher was able to set up the yankees for their championship run. it doesn’t take a genius when you have all that new york city money at your finger tips.

there’s no excuse for not making the playoffs right now in this environment. if cashman and girardi can’t do it ,get someone who can.

This is sort of true. But they could also just eat the differnce in the money.

Let me try one more example to be concrete and show what a huge economic advantage backloading is for the team.

In 2002 the first year of Giambi’s contract he made $10 millio. In 2007 he is making $23 million. (both those figures include his prorated signing bonus).

So they paid him $13M less of his guaranteed money in 2001.

Just off the top of my head, I’d guess the U.S. dollar has fallen 30-40% in value between 2001 and 2008.

Just think about that – by backloading that $13M they probably saved at least $4M in term of real dollars.

And then consider how much the stock market went up from 2001 to 2008. If they took that $13M and invested it in the market they would have made a lot of money.