Why Scheppers fell in the draft
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 08, 2008 
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A few people have e-mailed to ask why the Yankees didn’t take a shot at Tanner Scheppers of Fresno State with their supplemental pick.
Here’s why:
(From the AP): Scheppers’ injury was recently diagnosed by Angels team doctor Lewis Yocum as a slight tear in his right rotator cuff and a frayed labrum.
Elbows can be rehabbed. Shoulders can be career-killers. A labrum and a rotator cuff? No wonder he fell to the Pirates in the second round. Pittsburgh is now saying he will be offered a deal only if their doctors approve.
“If we get him, we get a very talented pitcher,†GM Neal Huntington said. “If we don’t come to terms or just don’t feel like he’s going to be healthy enough, or if he has a setback in rehabilitation and we don’t think he’s worth the gamble, we get the third pick in next year’s second round.â€
Meanwhile, expect some signings this week. The Yankees could move fast with some of their guys.
Ya he was my pick for who the Yankees would take.
It was a complete guess. But Gerrit fell to the Yankees, and it turned out to be a no-brainier.
Tanner I think will find himself on a MLB team someday though. Most people seem to think he’s pretty talented.. When he’s healthy anyway.
Peter,
A bunch of the college seniors and maybe some others will be in Tampa tomorrow to “sign.” Let us know if you get a list!
Good work on the draft. Isn’t it fun?
Good to know. I didn’t know it was a rotator cuff problem, and was annoyed they didn’t draft him.
I thought the Stanford guy was a little bit of a reach, but this makes it easier to swallow.
I’m waiting for Chris Smith’s, Mickey O’Brian, Brett Marshall, Dave Adams and Gerrit Cole’s signature (especially that punk)
and that Dwyer LHP that sits 90-93 for HS kid.
Chris Dwyer! you know you want to mang
If Scheppers doesn’t pass the physical or won’t sign for a reduced contract, does he go back into next years draft or does he become a FA? Would be an interesting decision to sign him as a FA.
Patrick, did you watch Bleiche’s game on ESPN on Friday against Cal State Fullerton? Very impressive.
where is PAT M I want to know if this Chris Smith kid signed yet com’on kid your swing + Yankees Stadium built for new magic
We need to sign (who) Mike Jones from Ariz St. and the switch pitcher from Creighton
Thanks Pete
Creighton pitcher is already a guaranteed sign, so is Mike WHO, Mike Jones…oh god if he ever makes the majors
http://img297.imageshack.us/im.....222to9.png
JOBA JOBA JOBA!!!
i am mad, he is on the bench tonight for the sun devils. he hat two hard hit outs last night
Joe Morgan just said he agreed that Joba should be a starter!
Joe, I take it all back! Forgive me!
k wood just smoked the dodgers in the 9th. he looks really good right now, he go ethier, martin and kemp and made them look foolish.
And look at the kid from Cal, Leon Powe!
That is not the best picture of Joba to have ever existed.
“They need to put together a 10-6 or 11-5 run, get over .500 for good and move from there.”
Pete you should have said they need to put together another 10-6 or 11-5 run. In their last 19 games they are 12-7.
arod’s really getting a free pass for not hustling and being thrown out at 3rd today.
arod’s really getting a free pass for not hustling and being thrown out at 3rd today.
he did have a grade 2 tear, as long as he hits w/ RISP I have no problem.
Rebecca, pull up some pix of a young Babe Ruth and compare them to Chamberlain. If Chamberlain pitches as well or ever hits as well as a young Babe Ruth, NYY is in for a 20 year run.
had nothing to do with the hamstring, he started busting it halfway to 2nd, so thats no excuse.
im not an arod hater, but i hate guys not hustling.
Brandon,
Do you want this guy to play for the Yankees? He’s a third baseman but he’s talented enough to play multiple positions supposedly.
http://www.miamiherald.com/spo.....62497.html
Y’s, you should by chastising Jeter and Posada for the same thing, then.
quad not hammy, sorry
i didnt see jeter or jorge not hustle. had i seen it i would have called them out too. if 3 of your biggest stars are allowed not to hustle, why should anyone else bother?
charlie manual benched rollins the other day, the reigning mvp of the n.l.. that’s how you put a stop to that crap.
Joba looks like the numa numa kid in that pic lololol
im not an arod hater, but i hate guys not hustling.
well Alex didn’t bust it till he got to 2B because Dejesus had the ball and then bobbled it, after the bobble is when Alex went for 3B.
BTW Jetes struck out and Olivo let didn’t catch it, and Jetes made no effort to run to 1B, Posada lallidad it to a passed ball he should have caught and Olivo got 2B on that lack luster play
*BTW Jetes struck out and Olivo didn’t catch it, and Jetes made no effort to run to 1B, Posada lallidad it to a passed ball he should have caught and Olivo got to 2B on a BB lack luster play*
Perhaps you should widen your scope a bit, Y’s. This sort of thing gets run on every board. It’s always Rodriguez and Cano, but, few will question Posada or The Golden Child. Don’t know about you, but, as far as I’m, concerned, nobody gets a free pass because “they have four rings”.
i didnt see those two incidents and had i seen them id have called them out right away. that is BS! guys getting paid millions and they cant even be bothered to hustle!
Nice win today. Greinke is a very good pitcher and he’s having a strong season.
I think the bull pen is getting to the point where they’re going to be able to reshape it moving forward.
Giese has been terrific these past two games. He could settle in as the long man they’ve needed all year.
With him as the long man the other roles settle in a lot.
This may be premature but Girardi using Veas in the 8th hopefully signals that he’s perhaps seeing the light with Farnsworth and that the 8th inning role is at least up for grabs again to the pitcher who performs the best.
Veras – great stuff. But inconsistent in the past. This season he’s been ok to good in the bigs – two bad appearances but otherwise he’s contributed in a positive way.
I think its time for them to start using Ohlendorf on a more regular basis as a short man. With Giese in the pen they can afford to do that. Try him in the 7nth.
Finally, I think we are going to be seeing Dave Robertson called up fairly soon. Roberstson was uncharacteristically wild when he was first called up to AAA (around a month ago).
But he’s been absolutely dominant with much better control over his last 10 appearances. Roberstson walked 5 over his first 3 AAA appearances and has only walked 6 over his last 10 appearances. And he’s only walked 1 hitter over his past 5 apearances during which he threw 9 innings.
Today he threw 3 innings 4K 0BB 1H. So far he’s thrown 22 innings in AAA. Other than the initial wildness he’s been utterly dominant in AAA – he’s only given up 15 hits and is striking out a ton of hitters – 12.3 K/9.
that really knocks my respect for this team and it’s manager down a few notches.
its inexcusable.
yea, the pasada passed ball made me cringe a little and i am a big Posada fan
CB 37-27 PT/S for Robertson in 3 scoreless innings whens the last time Farnsy or Hawkins did that ?
CB, I had asked a question earlier about Scheppers that perhaps you can answer. If he fails a physical and he either refuses to sign a contract or Pittsburgh refuses to sign him, does he go back into next year’s draft or is he a free agent?
Brandon,
Do you want this guy?
http://www.miamiherald.com/spo.....62497.html
Oh Goodie! Mike Francessa’s take on Joba..and he has nothing to say :O
“that really knocks my respect for this team and it’s manager down a few notches.
its inexcusable.”
relax all 3 of them need to conserve thierselves it was a 90 degree day w/ bad humidity, our prospect Alan Horne nearly fainted in Scranton because of this weather. Remember also when questioned about the lack of hustle out the box Girardi responded “it’s not lackluster they are being smart” I agree they aren’t 22 yr. olds they are coming off rehab assignments we need them all season.
nice, robbie cano gets it all the time on here for his lacadaisical performance, but others get a pass, that sucks.
ill take manual over girardi in that case. maybe that speaks to the teams relative records.
Green, I did see the game the other day. He did a good job pitching some scoreless innings. Looked decent.
I just thought for a guy who wasn’t on anyone’s radar, they could have drafted him later.
GB7,
Schepper is a really sad story. Great stuff – and a really great arm. He entered college as a shortstop – coaches saw him throw the ball across the diamond and put him on the mound. He really took off from there. He was sitting 93-96 this year and still had room to grow as he was still raw and learning.
Scheppers was only a junior this year. So he still has a year of eligibility.
I’d guess this is what happens – the Pirates will reexamine his medical records and try to get him examined again (which he’ll refuse). Based on that rereview they’ll offer him some kind of contract. Then Scheppers will have to decide whether to accept the offer or to return to school for his senior year.
If he goes back to school he’ll have to decide what to do medically. Either he tries conservative rehab or surgery. He has the option to red shirt and miss the year to recover medically. Then he could pitch in the 2010 season as a 5th year season. Or he could take a chance and pitch as a 4th year season next year (’09).
If he proves he’s healthy he can improve what he signs for. But he risks not coming back and going undrafted if his shoulder worsens.
Scheppers should think long term and just sign for what Pittsburgh offers him. The medical care and rehab he gets in the pros will be much better than what he gets in college.
Hey! Pierce was nominated for Best Actress Award for the Academy.
Nice “B” acting job.
a 30 yr old reigning mvp should be able to hustle throuh the whole game, whether its arod or rollins. at least rollins was a man about it and said he was wrong and that it wouldnt happen again. arods manager makes excuses for him.
OK, thanks, CB. I was thinking that, if for medical concerns, Pittsburgh refuses to offer him a contract, if a team with deep pockets could sneak in and sign him as a FA. I guess I’m just a greedy Yankee fan.
and no pass for jeter either, if he’s too tired to hustle for a dropped 3rd strike, maybe he doesnt deserve to be the captain.
a 30 yr old reigning mvp should be able to hustle throuh the whole game, whether its arod or rollins. at least rollins was a man about it and said he was wrong and that it wouldnt happen again. arods manager makes excuses for him.
I’d rather bust it through a sprained ankle than a grade 2 quad tear, especially for his size. You ever tore your quad Y’s, I sprained an ankle nearly tore my quad in D.R. running through quad pain is risky because it can come back at any moment especially when you sprint.
I’m pretty sure that, although Girardi said something to the press, he’s presented his concerns to the three players in question. No need to air it in public.
rollins had a quad tear too, but that had nothing to do with his trot. if he could bust it when he saw the ball get kicked, he could have busted it out of the box, thats no excuse.
Maybe I’m missing something, but Arod’s “lack of hustle” was due to a brain cramp, thinking he’d hit a home run, right? That’s not quite the same as lollygagging down the line on a grounder or a passed ball strikeout. Is this really a federal case?
plus if arod has to be careful of his poor aching quad, why did he steal a base the other day? thats a b.s. excuse.
it is a big problem when 3 of your biggest stars decide its too hot to hustle. why should abreu or melky or cano bother hustling if the stars dont have to?
rollins had a quad tear too, but that had nothing to do with his trot. if he could bust it when he saw the ball get kicked, he could have busted it out of the box, thats no excuse.
Rollins tore a quad this season ?, anyway Alex sprinted to 3B because of the bobble if not for that he would have stayed w/ a 2 run double. Busting it out the box is different he has to swing and then run as he is extended to beat out a basehit. Trust me Alex is just keeping to what he was told to be able to do. Remember this is the same guy that came back early and nearly cost his season because he was trying to be “He-Man”
Making a stupid misjudgement on a fly ball that you think is a homer isn’t the same thing as lack of hustle. Maybe I’m a ‘soft’ fan, but I’m not going to get too excited about this unless there’s more to this play that I’m understanding.
As for Jeter, yeah, he’s a chronic non-hustler, a terrible example for the kids.
Nick, the only reason I mentioned it at all, was because of the misconception or ready excuses people on this board has on different players. That issue as far ast the players and Girardi goes is a private team issue. My issue is tagging Rodriguez and usually Cano as either lazy or not hustling while letting “true Yankees with 4 rings”n a pass for the same thing.
rollins missed 2 weeks b/c of his quad, just before arod did. his manager pulled him when he didnt run out a pop fly which was dropped and he only had a single instead of a double. afterwards he admitted it was wrong and said it wouldnt happen again.
now how you gonna tell me thats different than arod’s situation? (aside from the fact that girardi made an excuse for it while rollin’s first place manager benched him)
rollins missed 2 weeks b/c of his quad, just before arod did. his manager pulled him when he didnt run out a pop fly which was dropped and he only had a single instead of a double.
maybe it’s me
Arod is known to have a strong work ethic. I imagine that he’s agonizing over today’s events even as we discuss it on this blog. I hope the shame doesn’t send him into a tailspin of recrimination and doubt.
I do not support benching him for a game.
I have no idea whether Rollins has been known for a lack of hustle. Maybe his manager just snapped.
okay, but using his quad as an excuse doent wash anyway, because he showed he could run full speed when he realized the ball was muffed. AND he stole a base the other day, his quad had NOHTNG to do with it. he just cadillaced on what he thought was a home run. that’s just wrong.
It was just such a shocker to see that from Posada, Jeter and`Rodriguez, all in the same game, no less, that it caught my atttension. For the life of me, I’ve never seen that from any of them…it’s so out of character. As long as Girardi gets answers that satisfy him, that’s his business. Mine was with some of the people harping on Rodriguez, Abreu and recently Cano (probably for not hitting) for not hustling or running into walls. Running into walls is cool, even though it cuts down on run production to save maybe three or four runs a year.
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not looking for recrimination or doubt, i expect that major league players making millions can hustle on the field. most managers in mlb demand it or take action when it doesnt happen, not always as publicly as manual did.
in any case, its unacceptable from arod, posada and ESPECIALLY
sorry, ESPECIALLY the captain!
Wow that was great analysis!
We all remember Mike Sirotka? or former Mariners top prospect Ryan Anderson.
And just look at Shawn Green’s career, from MVP candidate to instant has-been after a labrum injury–and that’s to a position player.
Looks like another bad entry in a long line of personnel decision disasters for the Pirates. Glad the Yanks didn’t waste a pick on him.