Game 66: Yankees at Athletics
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- June
- 11
YANKEES
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Rasner RHP
Darrell Rasner (3-3, 2.58) vs. the Oakland hitters.
Justin Duchscherer (5-4, 2.32) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees are trying to get to two games over .500 for the first time since Apeil 23 when they were 12-10. … Alex Rodriguez has a seven-game hit streak (12 of 25, 9 RBI) and Bobby Abreu a six-game streak (10 of 24). … Jason Giambi has gotten on base safely via hit or walk in 20 straight games. … Mariano Rivera has worked four straight days and likely will be unavailable tonight. … Bullpen last 7 games: 17.1 innings, 11 hits, 3 runs, 5 walks, 19 strikeouts. … Kyle Farnsworth threw in the bullpen this afternoon. Presumably he’s available.
Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 9:40 p.m.: You may have heard about the insufferable Curt Schilling criticizing Kobe Bryant on his blog. Kobe fired back.. His comment: “Go Yankees!”
UPDATE, 10:00 p.m.: Andrew Brackman had his appendix removed and will be out of action for three weeks or so. As you know (or should know), he is out this season recovering from Tommy John surgery. The Yankees hope he will be ready to pitch in one of the fall leagues.
UPDATE, 10:27 p.m.: Was it only a month ago when Yankees fans wanted Jason Giambi released and/or executed? The Big G now has 15 homers and 36 RBI and has reached base in 21 straight games.
That’s 192 homers as a Yankee for Giambi. That ties him with Tino Martinez for 14th place in team history.
UPDATE, 10:36 p.m.: Jeff Karstens came off the DL to pitch for Scranton tonight and did well: 5 4 2 1 1 2. Dave Robertson then threw two scoreless, striking out four.
J.B. Cox was placed on the Scranton but nobody seems to know why. Trying to get the info from Brian Cashman.
Meanwhile, our man Alfredo Aceves was great again for Trenton in a 1-0 loss against Connecticut. Aceves: 7 3 1 1 0 7. He is 1-2 with a 2.00 ERA. Mark Melancon pitched two perfect innings in relief.
Melancon at Trenton: 8 games, 21.2 innings, 10 hits, 3 runs, 2 walks, 19 strikeouts.
UPDATE, 11:05 p.m.: Darrell Rasner has run out of those magic beans he had. It doesn’t help when Giambi can’t make a simple play. So instead of two on and no outs, you have one on, one out and a flood of hits.
UPDATE, 11:09 p.m.: Our pal Mark Feinsand – what a dog – is taking the rest of the road trip off to be with his wife and new baby. That Daily News is like Club Med.
But Anthony McCarron is here in Oakland and will be going to Houston. A-Mac is trying his hand at some blogging over on Blogging The Bombers. If I start to bore you, go over there and check it out.
UPDATE, 11:34 p.m.: It’s a waste to use Ross Ohlendorf as a mop-up long reliever in lopsided games. Ohlendorf can – and should – be used in higher leverage situations.
UPDATE, 11:45 p.m.: Like I said, Ross Ohlendorf stinks. Let him mop-up.
Holy cow, why can’t this team stay over .500? This is ridiculous.
UPDATE, 12:17 p.m.: Finally, the perfect role for Kyle Farnsworth.
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Pete, going back three threads ago, no way I deal Cano. He will get his head out of his rear eventually.
“Kyle Farnsworth threw in the bullpen this afternoon. Presumably he’s available.”
Yeah, but who wants to see him pitch? Aside from his family, no one!!
Peter-give Girardi a copy of the Farnsworth rules. Stat!
I hope the Yankees can get Rasner some runs today.
Let’s just win..somehow
Laura – I agree, in the trade scenarios that Pete proposed for Sabathia no way can they trade Cano. I would definitely give up Melky, Tabata and/or Gardner or Horne or Kennedy, even Cox or Veras, but Cano, no way!
The “A” lineup once again
I think we’ll pick up the W tonight but the bats need to tear it up in order for this to happen.
“I think we’ll pick up the W tonight but the bats need to tear it up in order for this to happen.”
Like Rasner has been bad or something???
no, not farnsworth, lol
maybe he just can’t handle the pressure
let’s try veras as setup for now… he was up to 98 last night
speaking of last night… mo was up to 97… must have really wanted that save
Would a game that didn’t need the bullpen be a bad thing? How about a solid blowout victory?
Haven’t had one of those in a long time.
“Would a game that didn’t need the bullpen be a bad thing? How about a solid blowout victory?
Haven’t had one of those in a long time.
And it would have the added benefit of allowing me to go to sleep before 12:30
i wouldn’t want to give cano either but if they say cano + kennedy for cc (assuming we sign him long term) then that would be very interesting
can’t really compare this situation, trading for cc, with the winter’s, trading for johan… no way we give up phil hughes, even now… plus, at the time, no one knew we’d be a .500 team in mid-june…
like pete said before, the worst-case scenario for us has happened, hughes + kennedy couldn’t have done any worse…
o well, let’s get that Win
Why would they trade Cano in season? For a free agent to be??? Please. That has to be a joke right? Considering the fact that they don’t have anyone on the roster who can play 2b or SS after the starters I laugh at that.
Cano is going to find a way out of his hole and there is nothing we can do about it besides root him on.
You don’t trade 25 yr old all star middle infielders for free agents to be. Just ridiculous.
It’s June 11th and Shelly Duncan has had 1 AB this month. ?????? Anyone?
Send Duncan down, call up Gardner. We need his speed.
We get 2 games over .500 today!
They should do something.. what’s the point of him being up here if they’re not going to use him? Cmon press people, ask the question.
Duncan is worthless on this roster right now.
Send him down to Scranton and get him at bats. They obviously don’t think he can play 1b and he hasn’t hit when he had the chance.
Gardner is needed on this roster. His speed is needed. And he can play all 3 OF positions.
We pinch ran with our 3rd string catcher the other day.
You can’t make this up.
on baseball tonight peter gammons just threw out the gem of an idea that the yankees could send cano for brad penny. Gammons should just stick to talking about the red sox, he’s wasting his breath and people’s time when he speaks of the yankees…
Hope the Yanks have a big lead going to the 9th since Mo is probably not available to close.
i agree, gardner would seem to be more useful than duncan, but i’m sure the front office already knows the situation… so there has to be a reason
penny ? ….. LOL
Brad Penny for an young all star middle infielder on a good contract?
Have them throw in Kershaw or Billinglsey.
Cano can only be dealt for a top line starter, and the Yanks would need a window to negotiate a contract extension with the player before signing off on the trade. Plain and simple. No one on the Major League roster except Jeter, Rivera, Posada, Chamberlain & Rodriguez should be untouchable at this point. The Yanks traded Soriano, so they can trade Cano too, if the return value is good.
this is the lineup i’ve been waiting for…
btw, all this talk about trading cano is nonsense… trust me, he plays for my real life team and my fantasy team and no one is more disappointed than i am with his performance thus far… however, he plays solid defense and there are very few 2B in the league with his offensive potential… just my opinion, but i think he’s gonna have a great career and i’d rather it be for us than someone else…
i really don’t mind riding out this season with Wang, Pettitte, Moose, Raz, Joba, Phil and Ian when they get back… Let someone else pay $120M for CC’s fat arse…
Cano for Brad Penny?
Um..yeah..ah..what?
I like cano and anything sending him away would have to yield something Very nice to say the least, but one thing trading him does acknowledge is that within the next 3 years jeter probably needs to move to second base and a stop gap can placed there in the meantime. Then again thinking that far ahead is crazy and I dont buy the yankees being this desperate for an arm… why did I write this babbble. i hate you gammons
Randy Wolf and Houston Street.
I like how everybody okay with riding the pitchers we have now and pass on Sabathia.But Kennedy ,Hughes,Joba won’t all be in the rotation next year or we will have the same problem like this year and none will gives us enough innings.
Face it thios isn’t a rebuilding year nd you need free agents.If not you get this year all over again.
We need to trade IPK and “insert A- prospect here” for Huston Street.
He sets up now and closes in the last year of Mo’s deal.
if the Sabathia trade is centered/framed as a rental, this would be fair: Kennedy/Tabata/Marquez
and i let him walk, following this year. And take the two Round 1 selections.
“Kyle Farnsworth threw in the bullpen this afternoon. Presumably he’s available.
Enjoy the game.”
That reads like a taunt.
“We need to trade IPK and “insert A- prospect here†for Huston Street.
He sets up now and closes in the last year of Mo’s deal.”
unless something is very wrong, no one but Mo closes in the last year of his deal, it’s not even open for discussion imo
“It’s June 11th and Shelly Duncan has had 1 AB this month. ?????? Anyone?”
That’s one at bat too many. Teixeira is younger than Duncan!
I see we’ve brought the “A” crew to the comments section tonight.
How about Hughes, Cano, Wang, and Kennedy for Josh Beckett and Jonathan Papelbon? We get a frontline starter who’s a REEEEEEAAAL ace, and a set-up guy for Mo….
How about Hughes, Cano, Wang, and Kennedy for Josh Beckett and Jonathan Papelbon? We get a frontline starter who’s a REEEEEEAAAL ace, and a set-up guy for Mo….
Thats actually a fantastic trade for the Yankees.
Hughes and Kennedy are average. Cano is hitting a buck ten.
Street would be the ideal guy to acquire and he could be had.
Marte would be the second ideal guy.
Stop the Cano talk. He is not why we sit one game over .500. It is not his fault. He is not our star. He bats 8th!!
Find me the 8th place hitter who is the main guy of responsibility on a team.
A Kennedy-Tabata package for Sabathia is real interesting. We would have a monster rotation the second half and I assume they would sign him in November.
Street’s throwing in the high 80s these days. Is that how he’s always been? His injury history concerns me.
What is this move “Jeter to 2d base” thing?
The throw to 1st is shorter, true. But a laterally challenged infielder will still be laterally challenged if he plays 2d or SS. C’mon people.
“Stop the Cano talk. He is not why we sit one game over .500. It is not his fault. He is not our star. He bats 8th!!”
He shouldn’t be batting 8th. He’s basically been an automatic out. That’s not acceptable.
There is no single reason that the team has been so bad. Cano DRASTICALLY underperforming is one big reason. Melky being generally mediocre — especially from the right side — is another. Derek Jeter being a TERRIBLE top of hte lineup bat this year is another. Bobby Abreu getting on base about 50 points below his career average is another. The fact that they were all doing that while ARod and Posada were replaced with bupkis is, collectively, a HUGE part of the reason.
The rest has to do with Pettitte being mediocre, Wang having an awful May and the Hughes and Kennedy situation turning out basically as bad as possible. The worst case scenario happened with them.
“Stop the Cano talk. He is not why we sit one game over .500. It is not his fault. He is not our star. He bats 8th!!
Find me the 8th place hitter who is the main guy of responsibility on a team.”
The cano talk is completely independent of who or what is at “fault” with the yankees. He’s mentioned because he’s a valuable and potentially moveable piece of the pie. If anything your statement makes the case of why to send him for a pitcher.
The counter should have been that his ceiling is far too high to let him go based merely on the potential to acquire an arm and his slow start, which he has fought out of in the past.
“unless something is very wrong, no one but Mo closes in the last year of his deal, it’s not even open for discussion imo”
James – I hope you are right and Father Time continues to be kind to the great closer of all time. I’m trying to be realistic about a then-40 year old relief pitcher.
“Stop the Cano talk. He is not why we sit one game over .500. It is not his fault. He is not our star. He bats 8th!!”
First of all, he is batting 8th because he has been under-performing for 3 months, not because he should be there.
Second, trading Cano is not punishment – it’s a strategy to improve the team. Pitching is a problem down the stretch if Pettitte doesn’t straighten out fast and it will be the problem for the next two years regardless because the kids need to get their innings up gradually. If Cano gets you the starter to bridge that gap and that starter also happens to be a power lefty, you consider it.
“What is this move “Jeter to 2d base†thing?
The throw to 1st is shorter, true. But a laterally challenged infielder will still be laterally challenged if he plays 2d or SS. C’mon people.”
if you’re referring to my post, i mentioned it in passing as something likely needed 3 years down the road, nothing more. If you think you a second baseman needs the range a short stop does, well, that says enough i guess…
Pete, you have said a lot of stupid things in the past, but trading Cano for C.C???? you just funny fat guy.
Street was never a hardthrower like Fransworth and Bruney and most of the Yankees pen.And Melchon,SAnchez and Cox aren’t any better health wise.
Street unlike this pen (not named Rivera) has pitched great as a reliever for a full year before.And he only 24 years old and has pitched good in the AL.
If you wanna risk something Street would make us forget Joba in the pen.
Hey –
Can someone point me in the direction of a good stats site where I can see where Jeter ranks in the league in GIDP or RISP w/ 2 out?
I can find a players numbers in baseball-reference, but I don’t know where to look for sortable stats.
Many Thanks!
it is nearing time, to bring up Gardner. Need his skillset on the roster. Whether it means benching Melky, i don’t know. Melky is one of my fave players.
btw, melky: don’t slide into first.
In case anyone’s interested in a baseball game, Mike Pelfrey is doing a number on the Diamondbacks. Granted, the D-Backs aren’t doing too well lately, but Pelfrey is pitching much better than he started out the season.
So, I guess young pitchers can improve over time. (Even on the Mets with Rick Peterson, but that’s another discussion). What a radical thought.
Again I gon on the record not in favor of trading Robinson Cano, he needs to adjust. I believe he can I just don’t know when.
BTW Whozat you are right to worry about Houston Street, check his fastball velocity per year.
2005 (91.2)
2006 (91.7)
2007 (90.4)
2008 (89.8)
for him to drop to 89.8 MPH something must be wrong, or the wear and tear is getting to him. What do you think
I don’t think they can trade Cano, unless they can change the 4th round pick Joseph into a 2b…
On a non-Yankee related note, I went to the Angels-Rays game on Monday (I live in LA). Evan Longoria is the REAL DEAL. He went 3-4 with 2hrs and a 2B and 4 runs scored. WOW. The two dongs were line drive bombs. I was thoroughly impressed if not jealous that the Rays have him on the squad. he will be an perennial All Star.
Back to the Yanks, Melky seems to be a fourth OF. I love his passion but the numbers aren’t there. Plus his plate discipline comes and goes. I say bring up Gardner and see what happens. Maybe Melky is too comfortable. Same goes for Cano.
TKinDC- ESPN player stats has that kind of stuff.
Brandon –
Huston Street’s whip
2005 1.009
2006 1.090
2007 .94
2008 .953
Maybe he’s learning to pitch vs. throw – is there any way to copy Farnsy on this post??
Schilling, Beckett, DiceK, and now Colon. The long line of successful acquistion continues.
James:
“If you think you a second baseman needs the range a short stop does, well, that says enough i guess…”
What I wrote was that a laterally challenged SS will still be laterally challenged at 2d base. It’s a true statement, but apparently you disagree. Fine with me. And you weren’t the first person who suggested it this evening so I wasn’t responding to just you.
I can’t think of a lot of examples of old SS being moved to 2d base to extend their careers. Not sure of the benefit of an aging SS learning to play 2d base for the first time after age 33 or so, but I could always be wrong.
If I’m Willie Randolph let Pelfrey air it out tonight
PT/S 103-67, GO/AO 9-4 4 Hits, 7 K’s in 7 innings, this is a night to break the pitch count rule.
Much obliged LibertyBelle
BTW – I am not objective on Huston Street – I went to University of Texas at Austin for grad school when he was their closer (before JB Cox) and was an absolute bulldog.
His dad was a football player for the Longhorns and he became a cult hero when he led them to the college world series.
vinny-b…I think I have to agree.
While I like Melky, I thing Gardner is and will be better. I like to think of Gardner is a mini Ellsbury, just not as good.
While I still think Melky should play and all, I think this fall we will see the young guys play. Melky, Gardner, Abreu is what I would appreciate atleast once.
Trade Melk-man and Cano together they are best friends I think thats fair for street sounds fair not for C.C. Cleveland cant get 2 major leaguers for a rental player, but a premier reliever who can one day close for us after Mo sounds ideal.
TKDC since your curious here’s Farnsworthless
2005 64.4% (96.3)
2006 72.0% (96.2)
2007 76.7% (94.7)
2008 64.2% (94.0)
for w/e that is worth
wow Pelfrey is having a great game
he’s having an outstanding game S.A. to think not to long ago Mets fans wanted to trade him for Farnsy. I said at that time I wish. He has great stuff when he’s on.
he’s going CG tonight
Just shows ya gotta have some patience. It’ll be nice for them to win this game
Al…I can’t see Street being our closer…wait for Brackman.
bphill, I think Brackman is set to be a starter next season.
Thank god somebody needs to end the pitch count nonsense in baseball, eversince Baker blew out Wood and Prior teams have wussed out in stretching thier SP staff.
Hey guys. I’m in the middle of making homemade tomato sauce with my father (yum!) but I’ll be back in a little bit and watching the game =)
Go Yanks! Go Rasner!
I just noticed JB Cox is on the DL –
Chad Jennings at SWB gets it done – nice job by him:
http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.com/Blogs/SWBYankees/tabid/552/Default.aspx
I feel like Rasner is only going 6 tonight after that 118 outing
murphydog, the laterally challenged thing you bring up is a touch faulty because a second baseman does not cover the ground a SS does and the shorter throw lets him play deeper in many cases. Id say we all consider cano to be an above average fielding 2 bagger, but when was the last time you saw him make a play truly on the short stop side of the bag? never, he’s been drawn right and into the outfield plenty, but not sprinting to the other side of the bag. Conversely most short stops that top the range factor lists can been seen chasing balls down at near sprints all over the place (2ndbaseman- no), it’s how the positions obviously differ.
A move down the road, when jeter is presumably slower, would better hide the fact he is “laterally challenged”. Lastly the idea a move from SS to 2nd would be hard for jeter I could never agree with either. anyway the whole notion of arguing something that’s nonsensical for the near future is pointless.
Brandon Santana homerun count almost equals the total wins the yankees have so far this year…no? maybe?………Yeah I think my Yankees would be a way better team with him. You and cash are on the same side thats cute.
Hey, David Ortiz just became an US Citizen.
http://www.boston.com/news/local/breaking_news/2008/06/david_ortiz_bec.html?p1=Well_MostPop_Emailed3
NYY already has Huston Street, on the roster. Just have to find out, which player he is.
Brandon Santana homerun count almost equals the total wins the yankees have so far this year…no? maybe?………Yeah I think my Yankees would be a way better team with him. You and cash are on the same side thats cute.
That didn’t even make sense one bit.
Aw! Good job Pelfrey! He’s done for the night
Why did he pull him out ?, oh Waggles better win this one or the Fire Willy crowd will be on code red tonight
We only won 12 games?
BPHill: yes. It would be fun.
Wagner has been a bit eh lately. 3 outs dude. That’s all ya need
Well brandon my point is look where we at without Santana. Hughes and kennedy have both combined to ZERO wins.
Is pretty obvious you against the Santana trade which is the worst mistake Cashman has made so far.
That makes me bitter.
Oh no Waggles , Get this damn save , I can’t stand another night of the WFAN lynch mob !
“NYY already has Huston Street, on the roster. Just have to find out, which player he is.”
I have a couple of candidates named Hawkins and Farnsy who definitely not Street. Street is head and shoulders above anyone we have seen in the bigs – now IDK about Melancon, Cox, Robertson b/c I just haven’t seen them. Frankly I hope you are right.
BTW – I just noticed that Justin Duchscherer has been converted from a reliever to a starter this year. How can this possibly be done? This never happens! Just ask the morons like Steve Phillips and the chucklehead gallery at ESPN/Sawx Nation HQ.
Seems to be working out for him though.
You know, just as I was thinking that Wagner was going to get Pelfrey the win, he gives up a double to Jackson. What a shame if Pelfrey doesn’t get the win here.
Wagner sure makes it exciting.
murphydog –
He’s married to a US Citizen no? I thought that was an automatic in – (and yes, I saw that chick flick Green Card)
Good lord Wagner. Get the last out. One of my best friends is a Mets fans…she is probably on a ledge somewhere
SONOFAB****
Wagner giving up the game tying 3 run HR with 2 outs and 2 strikes on the batter.
OMFG – Wagner is such a loser!
I don’t believe it. Poor Mike Pelfrey. Poor Willie. He makes the textbook move, and it blows up, due to lack of execution by the guy who’ job it is.
Holy….
oh my…. the mets…
Mo can relate. We Yankee fans can relate.
I think I need to call my friend and make sure she is ok. Hell, I’m sitting here in shock!
I’m sorry this is on Willie, What the hell did he have to take out Pelfrey for, he was freaking dominating the game, dominating ! Unbelieveable the stupid pitch count takes a W away from Pelfrey.
“Mo can relate. We Yankee fans can relate.”
I can sympathize – but fortunately Mo hasn’t blow any saves this year.
(touch wood)
Pelfrey outpitches Webb and now this. Poor Willie. They better just win this game.
joe mo has not blown a save yet Wagner is a loser!!
When it happens to Mo (and us), we are stunned because of the rarity of it. With Wagner and Mets fans, unfortuately for them, it’s a more regular occurence.
Really drives home how special Mo is.
TKinDC:
Melancon
Robertson
Cox
Sanchez
Horne
McCutchen
Kontos
Whelan
take your pick.
by the way, keep your eye on Bittle. Taken in Round 2, last week. The first or second best relief pitcher, in the NCAA, this season.
I feel bad for Pelfrey.
Seriously, what the hell was that
Mo gave up the HRs in tie games not with a 3 run lead!
You have to feel for Pelfrey. He’s had his fair share of struggles, and he pitched an absolute gem tonight. He deserves better.
Brandon,
Come on. That is just not on Willie. If you can’t trust your closer to get three outs what good is he?
That’s his job. If he can’t do that all he’s good for is cussing out teammates and creating unnecessary controversy.
Even w/ or w/o the win, Willie just opened himself to more criticism. He gives up a bloop single and then boom Willie pulls, Why ? that stupid pitch count pull job is gonna get him alot of negative feedback. Mark it down Willie is done.
Whoever suggested Brackman should close is off. Brackman, if he pans out fully, should be a No. 1 starter and I think I would rather see him as a starter. Cole, if signed, could also become a big time starter but can probably settled into the bullpen. I think now we have many potential bullpen guys and I think our minors need to develop more starters to work with. I know we have a lot but we can’t seem to get quality bats so we might as well stock up on pitching and hopefully Cashman uses a surplus to create bats.
I feel for pelfrey he did a great job like I felt for Rasner on Friday night
And Billy Waggles is not w/o blame either, That guy chokes in every monumental pressure game. I even said it to myself Reynolds was due for a game tying HR.
If your closer can’t come in and hold a 3-run lead, that’s on the closer, not the manager.
Brandon, CB is right. Wagner is a professional, whose job it is to close out games like this. Willie made the correct move to use him. If you’re not going to use him is that situation, then what are you saving him for?
Billy Wagner is such garbage. Every guy in that clubhouse should be calling him out after this game… All this guy does is point fingers at other people and then when ever the pressure is present in the slightest bit, he drops the ball. I’ve heard him use every excuse in the book along with “he shouldn’t have even swung at the pitch” when someone hit a homerun off him. What a loser. At the very least when Rivera blows a save he always takes responsibility and doesn’t make boneheaded statements.
Poor Pelf Im not even a Mets fan and I feel for the guy.
“Come on. That is just not on Willie. If you can’t trust your closer to get three outs what good is he?”
3 outs with a 3 run lead!!!
I hope Willie isn’t a drinker, b/c there isn’t enough booze to numb the pain that this kind of implosion causes.
You can’t fire the team when they show no heart, so the simple thing to do is cut off the head. Usually there is the ceremonial sacrifice of a hitting coach or pitching coach before that happens.
The problem is that if Willie fired, Omar knows that he is really on the line next. I think he will keep Willie in place as long as he can to cover for his screw-ups.
I cant believe it thought the Mets game was over but guess I was wrong just flipped the channel and see that the D-Backs come back if they lose tonight I dont even want to think what the radio will be like tomorrow
They better win this game, if not..
I’m sorry…I really do think someone might get hurt
Yeah! made a stupid comment. So what if Hughes and Kennedy messed up this year we dont have Santana. Watch Santana simply suck his last three years of that contract. Kennedy and Hughes just need to get back on track and you can’t judge a long term move three months into it. Yankees would be stuck with the contract and I guarentee you that in three years Santana will suck.
Anyway, people just cant seem to realize that the Twins wouldnt take Hughes and Kennedy when we offered. Later, they came back and asked for Kennedy and Wang and Melky and Marquez and that trade would ahve screwed us so there really is no debate. The Twins did not take the offer of Hughes and Kennedy while it was there for like a day. They dragged on and we dropped out and they asked for Wang and teh other people
LOL! Kobe vs. Schilling
Oh brother
I had an unbelievable laugh when I was reading that there’s actually people blaming Willie Randolph for this debacle… Those people shouldn’t be allowed to watch baseball. I mean what manager would take a guy who has probably never pitched this deep into a game out in place for his CLOSER who is supposed to CLOSE games?
If your closer can’t come in and hold a 3-run lead, that’s on the closer, not the manager.
If your SP is pitching a gem, leave him in. That’s what Pelfrey was doing all night, he allowed 5 hits in 8.1 IP, the damn pitch in baseball is ridiculous. To think years ago complete games in baseball weren’t a rarity. It’s getting just annoying nowadays.
Interested Reader –
I think it also fair to point out that with Giambi, Wilson, and Shelley playing first, it is a little difficult for Cano to range up the middle.
Defense is all inter-related.
Looks like Curt Schilling is busy making more friends.
Yet another reason to root for Lakers (and against Boston).
“The problem is that if Willie fired, Omar knows that he is really on the line next. I think he will keep Willie in place as long as he can to cover for his screw-ups.”
The mets have the 28th ranked farm system in the majors.
The organization is completely barren. Everything is riding on the 24 guys in that clubhouse.
And they are a terrible mix of players. Remember the headlines when Wagner signed?
Again and again, for whatever reason, trying to build teams with free agent signings of veterans doesn’t work.
boston ACE curt schilling????
27 this year…Yeah Santana will suck in three years, while Hughes and kennedy suck now.
Come on, you people are more blind than the Bush sympathetic.
No just because you marry an American it DOES NOT make you automatically a US citizen. It helps you get your green card but it is still a long process and if you want to become a citizen you also have to go through the ciizenship process. I actually am quite suprised unless he is now a dual citizen that he is no longe a citizen of the DR. I am sure it is a big deal down there.
Fantastic pitching performers by some prospects in the minors. Aceves 7 ip 1 er. Macallister 6 and 1. Robertson 2 innings 0 – 3ks one bb. Pendleton in Charleston also had a great game.
Gardner on base 3 times including a triple. Montero 2 hits.
CB –
Do you have any idea what it was ranked before they emptied out their purse to buy Santana?
Wow – this is like watching a NASCAR pile-up in super slo-mo.
I have to admit I enjoyed the Mets implosion last year, but watching Willie twist like this makes me feel icky.
David Robertson is the man. And he gets zero love.
Extras at Shea!
can someone explain all this stuff about schilling? i’m out of the loop. thanks.
So what’s the chance that Willie is back coaching 3rd for the Yanks next year?
Yeah Santana will suck in three years, while Hughes and kennedy suck now.
Come on, you people are more blind than the Bush sympathetic.
You know what come back to us next month w/ this same post, infact I’m gonna add this to favorites. We’ll see what the franchise changer does over the next few starts. Since he is that good.
extra innings for the Mets..my god
I would have left Wagner out there no matter how long it took for the game to end – he bitches and moans when he has to come in during the 8th – why not let him lie in the bed he made???
Zach – Schilling went to a playoff game and crowned himself expert on all things NBA in his blog 38pitches.com – He took shots at a bunch of players, griped about trash talking, the typical Schilling bloviation.
“If your SP is pitching a gem, leave him in.”
Exactly. If that was Tom Seaver 30 years ago – they would not think twice about leaving him in. 350 innings/yr was the norm for ‘Terrific’ back then.
Each time you bring in a reliever, after a guy throws a gem, you bring the risk that the reliever might not have his best stuff that night.
Gayle….Ortiz does have a dual citizenship. And trust me in DR they can’t be more than happy for him.
So what’s the chance that Willie is back coaching 3rd for the Yanks next year?
it’s like a Farnsy fastball
the funnier part of the kobe/schilling article may have been bill walton calling luke and what he said.
Interested/TK I still cant think i’ll ever believe a 2nd baseman needs the range a SS does and that playing 2nd couldnt hide that deficiency a bit. That said having someone like cano, who has great range at second, is fun to watch and I love the way he can seemingly make that snap/underhanded throw on the run look easy.
TKinDC,
The Santana trade probably knocked them down a few spots. I think they may have been like the 23rd or 24th ranked system before then.
They didn’t give up that much talent to get Santana. Though they did give up 2 of their 5 best prospects neither was that much of an impact player.
The main problem with them under Omar is very poor to mediocre drafting. That and the bad cycle of free agency – you keep losing first round picks.
And so far this year their top prospect Fernando Martinez is having a very middling year. Still waiting for him to hit for power. He’s very young and in AA but there’s probably more questions on him now than when the season started.
I like the singleton/flash combo on YES
Thanks for the recap TKinDC,
Just checked out his pathetic excuse for a blog. I love learning new things from Schilling. According to him, John McCain is going to save the country. Filthy rich baseball players with minimal education sure do know everything about everything…
No chance Willie is going to come back and coach with the yankees.
You can’t do that to a young manager like Girardi who doesn’t have a lot of experience under his belt. No way. That’s just opening up a pandora’s box of controversy. The media will be constantly speculating that willie was brought in as an insurance policy should girardi falter, etc.
Girardi had a lot of input into his staff (unlike what Omar did picking most of Willie’s coaches). You can’t just get rid of one of Girardi’s guys and hire Willie.
CB -
I agree – Gomez seems like a real player (although my last memory of him was him hitting for the cycle, I haven’t followed him since) , but I can’t believe the Twinkies thought that the Mets package was the best on the table – I’ll never get that deal.
i like Willie, back at 3rd. However, Cano needs Bowa. well, Bowa’s right adidas shoe.
“To think years ago complete games in baseball weren’t a rarity. It’s getting just annoying nowadays.”
That’s why relief pitching is so vital today…
If you can’t trust your 7th-9th inning pitchers, you’re in trouble…
We’re talking about 1/3 off all the innings pitched for the entire season-and that doesn’t include games that go into extra innings…
Is there a pitcher on the D’Backs who has an ERA over 2.98?
I am literally amazed about all the people willing to sell the farm for CC but these are the same people who were so Anti-Santana.. Unreal!!!
You people make me want to vomit sometimes!!
Gomez looked kind of raw when the Yanks played them. As I remember, he swung at everything (I didn’t have any ulterior motive in saying that).
#9 Nolan Ryan would threaten to kick the managers a.. if he were pulled there. I just, I’ve always had a problem w/ the new pitching rules.
A) You must have someone warming up when your SP hits 100 pitches
B) If your SP gives up a run in the 8th inning and it’s 3-1 or 4-1 your CL is taking his role
C) When your SP is around 110 it’s time to pull him
Think about that eversince Dusty Baker busted Wood and Prior’s arms baseball is subjected to B and C type pitchers pitching the 7th and 8th inning. What’s next a middle relief setup pitcher in 6th, while we’re at it the 5th inning can probably have the low relief to middle relief pitcher.
It’s going to take someone w/ huge grape fruits to stretch out thier SP staff.
Go Lakers!
Oh yeah, we have a game starting like now
Did the bullpen blow it for the Mets?
Stop messing around! The Sux are already 14 games over 0.500
Pull yourselves together and start winning, Pinheads
Uhm, does anyone realize that Cano was a .260 hitter in the minors? Dig up some more stats and I am just amazed that he had the years he had in 2006/2007
In 2004 the Yankees tried to trade for the big unit.. you know who was in the trade package… yes, both Wang and Cano .. unreal. You just never know.
Thanks S.A. I just flipped the channel.
Suzyn Waldman’s prescription for the Yankees?
“They need to get on a roll”
She gets paid money for this.
*sigh*
TK,
The Santana deal has gotten substantially worse for the twins over the coarse of the season. Substantially worse.
Gomez has done ok after a rough start though his OPS is only around .710-.720. Not bad for a rookie CF.
But the best player in that deal was Delios Guerra who was hyped as the mets second best prospect. He’s had an awful year and really, really struggled. Guerra was suppoed to be throwing in the low 90’s.
This year in the twins system he’s throwing in low to mid 80’s. On top of that Kevin Mulvey and Humber are having bad years.
Laura, Heilman is starting the 11th for the Mets. We’ll see.
Sorry – had to change my slogan for the night.
is it just me or is jeter still hurt? he seems a little bit late on every swing.
The Yankees have got to get Rasner some run support.
Jeter and Cano are suffering from “heavybat” syndrome, they’ll come around.
love the first pitch swinging.. kevin long you rock man!
CB – not a good start for a rookie GM right?
Welcome to the deep end of the pool!
ughh..Alex is back to swinging at those offspeed pitches
wow that strike was about as much as Mariah C.’s strike in Japan!
That second pitch was so off the plate. Somebody get that ump some glasses.
Wow, sucks for cubs.
Alfonso Soriano got hit in the hand today, it is broken. He is out for 2 months!
Don’t expect the yanks to score a lot of runs this game. Duchscherer has been outstanding this year and has good stuff.
I still hate the Lakers.
Ouch, Sori out for 2 months? That will definitely put a damper on the Cubs. What bone in his hand did he break?
Aw, saying no to the West Coast?
I see that David Ortiz became a citizen today. Too bad we can’t get the DR to take him back!
I agree. Duchscherer’s ERA will fall below 2.00 after this game.
“Aw, saying no to the West Coast?”
I’m against the late games. I say all West Coast teams have to play away games. No games at home for them.
Speaking of Mariah, Rasner’s strike zone is tighter than her shorts.
Ouch. That sucks for Soriano and the Cubbies
Connecticut shut out Trenton 1-0 that’s not an easy thing to do our Thunder is the most dangerous offense in the Eastern League. Tough break for Alfredo
Melancon 2 scoreless innings, 1 K
“I like the singleton/flash combo on YES”
So do I. Flash getting better and more vocal.
Always liked Ken (as an announcer – not when he was getting clutch hits against way back when!)
Steph…Soriano broke his left meticarpal bone…
I have no clue what that means.
Who is reporting that Soriano’s hand is broken? ESPN?
If there were no games out here playing the Angels, I’d probably never get to see the Yanks play in person. I love when they come out here. I can understand you guys having to stay up late, though.
“If there were no games out here playing the Angels, I’d probably never get to see the Yanks play in person. I love when they come out here. I can understand you guys having to stay up late, though.”
Didn’t know you were out on the Left Coast. I’ll change my slogan so as not to offend.
The metacarpals are part of your fingers. Ouch.
Rasner looks good again gotta get this guy some runs!
THE STACHE !!!!
A Giambian HR!
w00t!
Duchscherer cannot possibly succeed.
You see, he was a reliever last year and we all know that a good reliever can never be an effective starter.
/massive sarcasm
GO JOBA!
Haha, yeah, I’m a Southern California girl. It’s alright. Just as long as I get my one Yankee game in person per year, I’m pretty good. I’d love to get to see them in New York again.
The ’stache!
They jinxed themselves!! LOL!
just when the oakland announcers were about to show his very 1st HR, he hits another one, lol!!!
Welcome back to California, Jason! Give Rasner a few more runs. He sure deserves it!
Wow, Ron Jeremy! You’ve put on some weight!!
woo. Jason.
at least we won’t get shutout by Duchscherer.
Well, that better not be our only run for the game..
Back to work Rasner
Uh oh,
Yankee-Killer Mark Ellis is coming up
homerun ?
Still tied at Shea in the 12th D’bcaks batting.
Look at David Robertson
2.0 IP, 0 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 4 K’s
PT/S: 32-20, GO/AO: 1-1
can one develope a crush on a AAA relief pitcher ?
Cano’s batting average on balls in play is still .236. For the past three years its been around .330.
A good chunk of his poor hitting this year is related to bad luck.
His BABIP will not stay .236 for much longer.
“Was it only a month ago when Yankees fans wanted Jason Giambi released and/or executed?”
Seem to recall – posters with “44″ in their name did
Ellis got out oh yeah!
So tomato sauce takes longer to make than I thought, but it tastes really good.
Love the power of the ’stache.
Honestly not to pardon him for his paltry season but Cano has gotten at least a dozen hit stolen by ridiculous defense or bad luck.
Rasner is in total control right now.
Dave Robertson is going to get called up very soon. He’s no longer having any trouble with his control and absolutely dominating AAA.
He’s up next. It’s really remarkable how fast he’s moved given what he was considered to be coming out of college just a year ago.
Oh wow thats the only run were getting tonight.
Wow. Rasner is dealing. He is the Small/ Chacon of ‘08
Rasner looks good tonight…
Hey check it out, Melky didn’t slide into first. Nice!
CB I was waiting for you to comment on him I mean IDK what he will do in the majors but PT/S: 32-20 (I’ll take scoreless innings like that)
This Duschererer guy has great command I remember him when he closed for Oakland before Street came up.
Duchscherer*
“So tomato sauce takes longer to make than I thought”
Open jar
Start burner
heat until it starts to splatter all over cooktop
pour over pasta
devour
How long can it take? (just kidding)
Sorry – robertson was in college two years ago. Only been in the minors last year and this year and is very close to the majors.
Another great 2006 draft pick. Joba, Kennedy and now Robertson.
Ok, so when a guy is pitching bad, he’s injured? Could it just be that he sucks?
I’m glad Melky didn’t slide into first. He’s going to get seriously hurt one of these days if he keeps that up…shoulder, fingers, hands.
I think that TB is starting to come down to earth.
These announcers don’t really think that the A’s are going to catch the Angels, do they?
Way to go Derek
Nice hit!! Come on Bobby, get Ras some more runs!!
Come on, get this guy in from 3rd!!!
I agree Laura TB was never gonna keep it up their balloon has popped and the Yanks must step up, yet Boston continues to win.
Robertson is dealing right now in AAA, and his only hiccup, the walks, he seems to have gotten under control. Melancon is a man among boys in AA. He should be due for a promotion to Scranton. Add J.B Cox in the mix and that is an exciting young bullpen in the making.
TK: Ahh, but you have to peel and de-seed the tomatoes and puree them…
Oh man A-rod gotta get this guy in bad call there.
Well Bobby that was a strike
He had to throw his bat at that one because no one could have hit that call strike 3.
All of those suspensions that the Rays have aren’t going to help their cause. They’ll need to call up a starter or two to fill in for Shields and Jackson. The Yanks really need to step up their game and take advantage.
Bobby doesn’t get the job done. Come on, A-Rod!
Rebecca –
I think you are in the big leagues and I am in Charleston.
that hanger had 529 written allllllll over it
529 is next right?
come on
I love hearing all the good news from the minors, Alfredo man, he has really come on here, majors 2008?
A-rod crapped his pants on that one.
…Alex. You have so got to clutch there.
“Well Bobby that was a strike”
Not according to Gameday
damn the 2-1 curveball got him that strikeout, you can tell Alex was sitting on it and then Dusch throws the cutter, that’s just damn good pitching there.
How did Alex not swing at that? Must have been expecting something else.
“His BABIP will not stay .236 for much longer.”
I dunno…if he’s swinging at more heinous pitches than he used do his BABIP might not be a fluke. He’s not putting all that many balls in play with authority.
That was just disappointing
2 Called Strike 3 in a row
Terrible strike out call on Abreu, but a nasty strike out on A-rod.
Great curve ball …
Not again. They have to at least get the runner in from third with only one out.
“Not according to Gameday”
Seriously. According to Gameday, this ump is giving Duch pitches he ain’t giving to Rasner.
Not according to Gameday
on MLB gameday and on live tv it was a strike, even Ken and John said it was.
Giambi giveth, Giambi taketh.
how the hell do you flip a ball like that ?
Disappointing. How about pathetic.. CAN THIS TEAM GET A CLUTCH HIT THIS YR.
this is a never ending problem.. Arod got a nice view of those meatball pitches..
they cannot get big hits, you cannot win unless you get some big hits…
nah Lets talk about Melky sliding into first instead of AROD with men in scoring position……..
I am typing so I did not get to see Giambi’s great play but what would you expect from this wreck of a team.. they have so many blemishes it is astounding….
Dang it. Giambi had a little time to get a grip on the ball.
Jason giveth and Jason taketh away
Still, I think Betemit’s no better option at 1st
stuart is was a perfect pitch selection, his curveball is so good he sat on that instead he threw him the cutter. It would take perfect guessing at that point.
Wow, nice play by Robbie! That was some run.
“on MLB gameday”
Um. I was watching on gameday. Of course it marked it as a strike. It was called a strike. That’s what causes Gameday to mark it a strike. What the ump says. That doesn’t mean that it was on the plate. It wasn’t.
our exciting bullpen is in AA and AA call me crazy but I like them to be on the big club..
what a team that executes, shocking.. Arod plays so deep always he is often susceptible to the bunt but he watches 69 MPH curveballls right down the middle real well…
OMG best bunt Ive ever seen this game is tied in less than 5 minutes this is how you execute offense.
Dang it
Im going to sleep fellas.
does jorge really have pine tar there? do other catchers?
Dusch’s curveball today is at 69 MPH his cutter was 81 MPH lethal combo right there especially if he sells it w/ his arm speed.
Brandon, enough with the excuses for AROD.. he is paid $25 mill and is hitting like 140 with men is scoring positions.. THAT is not bad it is pathetic…
HE hits 4th and needs to get more big hits……
Like we said, Giambi giveth, and Giambi taketh.
rasner has fallen off. he needs his concentration back
Abreu couldn’t get the RBI in with less than 2 outs and Giambi committed a huge error. Now its 3-1 instead of 2-0
come on Rasner. Oh crap
Giambi’s error started this fiasco.
Has Bobby Abreu made an accurate throw on a play to the play at all this season?
This has disaster written all over it
If Ron Jeremy makes that toss to Rasner, I bet you this wouldn’t have happened. This is why we need a real 1B.
again Brandon Duscherer is not exactly Juan Marichel so enough with the friggin excuses.
looks like our good D really helped out this inning.
Lucky our big guns came thru last inning.. Arod and Abreu are so cluthc they might be the best 3 and 4 ombo in the game!!!!!Probably not but they are the highes paid that was $41 mill watching Duscherer 69 mph curvee ball.. He is a $800k a yr guy from south Dakota…Schooling our STARS(not my word)…
stuart –
I understand the frustration – but did you pay attention to last night’s game? They played well and got timely hits early (a-rod) and late (melky’s dinger)
On the West coast the Yanks are due for a game like this its the designated loss.
Giambino strikes again.
Ok, so Rasner is not pitching bad. Error, good bunt and then bad positioning by the infield.
But what the hell with this offense.
So, I am going to start again, we are now into June and this team still sucks offensively. No posting of how they have done in small span’s or how great their offense looks since Arod returned because ultimately, they still cannot get hits with RISP.
This poor hitting is going to cost them a playoff spot in the long run. At some point, someone needs to be accountable, either Joe or Kevin. Their approach is still not what it should be. They take too many strikes, swing at too many bad pitches, and are consistently helping pitchers out.
What gives?
stuart now your whining instead of looking at the game. If your watching that inning you can see why Alex struck out, Dusch sold the armspeed threw curveball 2-1 and then instead of doubling on it threw the cutter on 2-2 for the strikeout, But Yes go on w/ your rant.
Another inning in which a Yankees pitcher is victimized by an error at 1B, in which the runner ultimately scores,
Last night it was Betemit, tonight Giambi.
The last 20 minutes of baseball show why this yankee team sucks.
Get Giese in here.
That’s it. Game over.
How sad is it that Oakland could get the big clutch hits but not the Yanks?
And the hits just keep on comin’.
Rasama-tazz has to settle down. I think the error has rattled him.
really need a DP here to settle Rasner down
I thought Rasner was pitching? Looks like Moose out there.
Dang, so my connection goes down and suddenly it’s 3-1. Hopefully Rasner can settle down…
Settle down Rasner. Oh boy
This is the exact reason why this should be Jason’s last year.
“again Brandon Duscherer is not exactly Juan Marichel so enough with the friggin excuses.
looks like our good D really helped out this inning.
Lucky our big guns came thru last inning.. Arod and Abreu are so cluthc they might be the best 3 and 4 ombo in the game!!!!!Probably not but they are the highes paid that was $41 mill watching Duscherer 69 mph curvee ball.. He is a $800k a yr guy from south Dakota…Schooling our STARS(not my word)…”
Uh, d00d? Check Duchscherer’s stats. He’s the real deal. And how much he makes is supposed to make him a poor pitcher?
The guy is an excellent pitcher. Changing speeds, locations, hitting his spots, and getting generous calls.
I love Rasner and all, but we’ve got to get Giese up now or something. He’s come completley undone.
Im literally getting chest pains.
So for whoever is counting that is now 2 days in a row where no defense at 1st base has hurt the team. Yes Giambi hit a homerun but he just gave it back. Rasner was due to have a bad game but the A’s stink and he has nothing. I also think the error nerved him because it started everything.
these aren’t even hard hits they are bloop shots.
whens melancon going to AAA??
5 hits in a row…
How many times have the Yanks strung together 5 hits this season?
Ohlendorf needs to get off of the ’stache train
“This poor hitting is going to cost them a playoff spot in the long run. At some point, someone needs to be accountable, either Joe or Kevin. Their approach is still not what it should be. They take too many strikes, swing at too many bad pitches, and are consistently helping pitchers out”
Um, so what is it? Take more pitches? Or take fewer?
They don’t have a crystal ball of what the next pitch is gonna be.
Daver- NEVER this is why this ball club is .500.
I hate these players that can’t do squat against other teams, but turn into Babe Ruth when they play us.
Ah.. well I guess I can go to bed early tonight.
:shakes head: Wow.
Go to bed Al – even if the Yanks are great they will lose more than 60 games.
Rasner is pitching like he threw 118 pitches the other day, totally predictable.
With a pitcher like Rasner going who isn’t over powering you just can’t give the other team extra outs.
Giambi is just not a first baseman. When you factor in his throwing, he’s well on his way to being 15 runs worse than a league average first basemen.
He better continue hitting home runs like this because his poor fielding takes away a lot of his value.
ok now take Rasner out
Crap. Inning from hell for Rasner
June 11, 2008.
The Day That Rasner Died.
Whats the score 6-1.
Welcome home Darrell
The guy is an excellent pitcher. Changing speeds, locations, hitting his spots, and getting generous calls.
No he his not. He is average at best. Might be more the generous calls
This freakin game is over.
Girardi should just stand there and take it…Oh wait, that is what the “new firery” manager is doing.
Okay, clearly he can’t get anyone out so why is he still in there?
What a disaster from Rasner. I understand having a bad game..But this is embarrassing especially from a dreadful hitting team. I am sure Rasner feels like a loser doing this in front of all of his family and friends.
Why the hell is Rasner still in this game??
“Daver- NEVER this is why this ball club is .500.”
Why? Because Rasner’s having his worst start of the year against a good pitcher?
Well, yeah. I guess we’re lucky to be at .500 if that’s ‘why’ they’re .500.
The bloom is off the Rasner rose.
Well, guess I can get to be at a decent hour tonight.
Of course we weren’t gonna actually get 2 games over .500
I blame Flarehty for his “he’s been perfect through 2″ remark and Giambi for playing catch with Girardi.
It’s a disaster….
Beltran hit a walkoff
Why did no one go to the mound after 4 consecutive hits and calm down Rasner? Nothing has changed since last year with the mis-management of this team!!
Stop bitching about Rasner.
You people are unbelievable. The guy has pitched GREAT this year.
Give him one bad start, especially after Giradi had him throw 120 pitches his last start.
What did you expect?
Is there some curse or something? We can’t get over .500 and stay there?
Well, Beltran just saved the Mets. Game ending HR.
V is a total nerd. Why can’t people get mad that Rasner stinks? Who died and made you board leader?
Im sorry but this is what happens when you make Rasner throw 118 pitches.
Amazing how this team is so inconsistent that they cannot even get TWO games over .500. Same garbage as usual. Make an error, pitcher implodes. Can’t get runners in from third with less than 2 outs. A recipe for another painful loss right when it’d seem like they’re about to turn it around for once.
Every time you fail to get in a gimme run like in the top of the 3rd, you lose all your momentum and the other team will come out and pound you. Disgraceful that these millionaires cannot get in a free run from 3rd like that repeatedly.
Back to .500 we go
“The guy is an excellent pitcher. Changing speeds, locations, hitting his spots, and getting generous calls.
No he his not. He is average at best. Might be more the generous calls
This freakin game is over.
Girardi should just stand there and take it…Oh wait, that is what the “new firery†manager is doing.”
Average at best?
2.32 ERA, ~1.00 WHIP, >2/1 K/BB. Average at best?
Wow, a lot of you are truly stupid.
Watch the YAnks first pitch attacking go into full effect next inning.
Well – night just went from Awesome to crap in like 5 minutes.
Awesome – Mets blowing 3-run lead in the 9th. Giambi hits homerun. Rasner looks invincible again.
Crap – Mets win with homer in 13th. Error by Giambi and Rasner implodes.
This was really only a matter of time with Rasner….
We were living on borrowed time with this guy.
This is a .500 team. It is what it is.
We need the Other Brother Darrell.
think about it Jason makes that play and and we have 2 outs no1 on instead this happpends
what the hell are they arguing for. His foot was clearly on the bag.
Soriano broke his finger, not his hand.
Well, the game isn’t over yet. We could actually come back..
Not too sure if that will happen though. But let’s see
The game isn’t over yet. There’s still time for the Yanks to score runs. Duchscherer is a good pitcher, but there’s still a lot of baseball to be played.
I just Fist Pumped for a groundball.
Who expected Rasner to have an ERA of sub 3 all year???
He’s a long reliever/5th starter.
“V is a total nerd. Why can’t people get mad that Rasner stinks? Who died and made you board leader?”
It’s just absolutely utterly amazing how the average intelligence of posts drops as precipitously as it does when the Yankees go from winning to losing.
the old peice of poo rasner returns!
Deucherer is a good pitcher. Even if Rasner pitched a gem this would have been a tough night for us. Just be glad he is imploding against a good pitcher, and no scrap guy.
jason made an error, but rasner gave up six hits in a row after it. cant blame the whole inning on giambi
Stuart all you ever do is BITCH BITCH BITHCH on this blog. You never have anything positive or meaningful to say.
You just bitch the entire time. You’re not the only one, but unfortunately you’re the worst.
A lot of game left. We will score more than 6 tonight
Ok so Rasner had a bad game big deal he is allowed a bad start. What does it matter how many runs he gives up the Yankees cant hit anyway.
Relax this game is not over. Bad start for Rasner but to be honest he has pitched great for us
We must have the most number of weak minded pitchers in the world. How many times have we seen our pitches implode after an error happens behind them? I just don’t get it. Errors are part of the game. Act like it didn’t happen and pitch!!!
Um, so what is it? Take more pitches? Or take fewer?
They don’t have a crystal ball of what the next pitch is gonna be.
First, I said too many strikes, not pitches. Then, I said swinging at bad pitches.
They don’t need a crystal ball to be a good hitting team. Does Boston have a crystal ball? Does Oakland have one tonight? It isn’t about a crystal ball, it is about having a game plan when your up to bat and not looking lost. This is what they get paid to do, this is why there is suppose to be a scouting department, this is why they have hitting charts, etc.
Plus, not hitter knows what the pitch is going to be, they look location. The Yankees take pictures and then try to give that frustrated look on their way back to the dugout.
this team is truly pathetic.. had a chance for some runs last inning but the big boys whatched strike 3 and giambi the gazelle showed his fielding prowess and now it is 6 to 1.. but the yanks got there HR so all is well….
let the sabermorons look at BABIP and other BS but I see with my own eyes that the YANKS SUCK WITH RISP…
Newsflash, stop trying to be heroes and put the ball in play….
No I am sorry Brandon said that Duchserer is nasty therefore pretty boy ROD has a excuse and the wall man Abreu does also.
Hey Jeter got a hit tonight his OBP is almost up to Melky now….
eh we are 500 again for the 23rd time or so…we have a $16 mill man pitching tommorrow with a 4.99 ERA.. This team is sad, but let’s keep hawkins and Kyle around because??????????
the lack of clutch hitting on this team thru 64 games is just head shaking….
I didn’t know that an offense like the A’s have can possibly score 6 runs in 1 inning. I guess anyone can hit a meatball…
come on…looks like we got no pitching 2nite so rasner bailed us out this year 2nite we gotta bail him out.
You have to bear down and pitch out of jams that your fielders cause sometimes. It happens. You have to pick them up. They pick you up. It is how the game works. Don’t blame Giambi. No one ever said he was a Gold Glover. He is a hitter. And he’s been doing a good job of it lately.
Soriano hit by pitch, breaks finger
Cubs star outfielder to be sidelined at least six weeks
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The beginning of the end of this year’s Cubs Mirage.
Now it’s time for us to do the same to their pitcher
It’s not over baby!!
We need to chip away. Starting now
Rebecca
Your off your game woman. Whatever hapened to playing all 27 outs before you concede the game.
Put a cork in it V and cut out your sanctimonious BS.
People are allowed to moan and groan when the Yanks play bad.
Stop acting like the board police. People are allowed to blow off steam here. It is why its here.
Those curveballs are sick.
Some of you guys are a riot. Its the 4th inning and your calling the game over? Short term memory. I could have sworn that all we did lately is comeback. Why dont you guys spare us the crap and go to bed. Pathetic.
Some of you remind me of the old miserable sox fans. Whoa is me.
Someone needs to shield this team from knowing it has a chance to go a whopping TWO games over .500. It’s like they all get in a huddle and say. ” OK,,,we have to blow this game…who’s gonna do it for us tonight ? A-Rod ? Jetes ?….RAZZZZZZ !!!!….It’s your turn….go out there and REALLY STINK it up ! “.
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DANG !
well, ive finally changed my mind. this entire season i have stuck to my guns and said this team would pull through… well they did, and then went right back below .500, then they won a couple games again, and of course go right back below .500
people gotta STOP saying everytime they get .500 “is this the BIG turn around they need?!?!”
JUST GET OVER IT, THEY ARE A 500 TEAM AND THATS THAT. This is not a post season team, and even if they make it to the playoffs theres NO WAY they beat it to the world series.. ABSOLUTELY NO WAY
Is there some curse or something? We can’t get over .500 and stay there?
Don’t worry, they will end up above .500 by the year end on their way to 3rd place and 82 wins.
“Stop bitching about Rasner.
You people are unbelievable. The guy has pitched GREAT this year.”
I second that emotion – but now it is a question of limiting damage and letting the bats see if they can find a way back into this game. Recently we do have a couple of great comebacks.
yeah MIGGS I bith when the so called stars come up small over and over and over again…
again afraud jus needs to hit 250 with RISP, I am not looking for 400, but 250 would be the minimum..
the guy says he is the BEST PLAYER in the game, show it…….
Also if the yanks played the young guys and had a much lower payroll I would have alot less to bitch about…….But nah, the yanks are the only team in baseball that does not cut junk from there team unless it is so obvious it is painful(ensberg). Why the F is Hawkins on the team? Or Kyle?
WHY???????????????????
The Yanks already used up all their come back spirit for the split against the Royals last weekend dont count on us coming back against Douchescherer who looks nasty so far, the mvp buckled like a 500 year old bridge.
Alright lets try to get something started. I can’t wait to hear stuart’s next post he brings a such enjoyable experience to this blog.
What is so frustrating with this team is every time you think they are ready to go on a run, they end up back at .500
“Put a cork in it V and cut out your sanctimonious BS.
People are allowed to moan and groan when the Yanks play bad.
Stop acting like the board police. People are allowed to blow off steam here. It is why its here.”
So this blog is the designated toilet of whining and screaming children?
Ok, I’ll leave you to your toilet.
Night, all. Try to grow up eventually.
“Soriano hit by pitch, breaks finger
Cubs star outfielder to be sidelined at least six weeks
.
The beginning of the end of this year’s Cubs Mirage.”
Yea, because who is going to catch them? The Astros and there great pitching?? Or the Pirates? or the Brewers? Or the Cards who just lost Pujols for the same amount of time.
Relax, son, before you really start thinking.
You guys really like to jump on this team..the game is far from over. You can’t expect Rasner to go out there and a toss a gem every time he is out there. People have bad days…
Rasner has not allowed more than 4 runs in a start before today’s game. He has also gone 6 innings or more in 5 of his 6 previous starts.
Kevin
Hey, I wrote this on Friday when Girardi insisted on tasking Rasner with throwing the 8th inning and letting his pitch count rise to 120 pitches: “watch for fatigue in his next outing; Rasner is going to get hit. He hadn’t thrown over 95 pitches all year, let alone 120.”
Rasner on Friday, Pettite on Saturday, Mussina on Monday, Wang on Tuesday: all dubious decisions by Girardi on how and when to remove his starting pitcher.
Why isn’t the press questioning Girardi’s judgment in this regard? Doesn’t it merit skepticism, if not criticism?
All Rasner had is one bad inning and people are giving up.
It is only the 4th Inning. Yanks will win this game. Have patience.
Too much room out there.
Listen to V everyone.
We should all grow up because we are mad the Yanks just gave up 6 runs.
We shouldn’t groan and be upset about it. It’s only a game right V???
Well F that. It is more than a game to some of us. And if you are here posting at 11pm on a Wed during a West Coast game it obviously means a lot. And most of us are sick of seeing the same BS from this team.
So, I won’t grow up V. I’ll moan and groan when things go bad.
4 games out of the Wildcard and there are morons throwing in the towel.
IDK why you even watch baseball when you apply this college football mentality where every loss is the end of the world.
Find another hobby – kick puppies or something.
Whiff (Cano’s bat) – Are you even a Yankees fan? If so why?
This team is pathetic. Another runner wasted.
damn dp!
Let’s assume for the moment that Rasner only gave up 3 runs…
would this team score more than 3 runs tonight?
I don’t know who is more defeatist and pessimistic.
stuart or SJ44
Close race there.
Cue stuart…
Average at best?
2.32 ERA, ~1.00 WHIP, >2/1 K/BB. Average at best?
Wow, a lot of you are truly stupid.
Again with the short sighted numbers. Look at his career. Falls right into the middle of the bell curve for pitchers.
Seriously, I don’t mind being wrong or being called out when I am wrong but when you use a sample size that is irrelevant to the overall picture, you look stupid. It is like saying that 3 out of 4 plate appearances demonstrates a players ability to hit well.
Do the Yanks lead all of baseball with the most DP’s hit into?. It seems like every time someone is on base the DP comes right away. This team is so frustrating.
good picture of the stash on yankees.com
Sick and tired of the Yankees getting battered around by teams like the A’s with AAA level talent that pitch decent and play fundamental baseball. This has been going on for 4 or 5 years now. Time to blow this piece of garbage team up and get some guys who play fundamental baseball.
Kill-Schill(ing) – good point but I am really starting to think Joe doesnt know what he is doing yet. He makes alot of moves or none moves that make you scratch your head.
I don’t know why we aren’t allowed to vent and be mad that the team is playing so average.
If you like how the team is playing shut up and enjoy it and let us rage against the .500 crap team we see out there every other night.
yeah we chipped away by hitting into a DP.. We love to hit into DPS..
Our offens is still middle of the pack..
our pitching is 20th in ERA and I think our offense is 14th so what type of team are we???
This offense is to slow and does not get cheap runs..you need cheap runs..
Awful! Bring back Chambliss for hitting coach!
Bobby there isn’t a wall in short right field.
A 1,2,3 inning following getting blown out by the A’s.
1) this game is not officially over. It’s not likely we’ll win, but it’s certainly not impossible.
2) The .500 thing is frustrating, more than anything else. However, given the non-production from Hughes and Kennedy, the troubles of Pettitte and recently Wang, the disappearance of Canò and injuries to A-Rod and Posada, it’s a miracle we’re even at .500.
alright guys, iam going to bed.. this is a waste of time.
laterr
come on Rasner
“Average at best?
2.32 ERA, ~1.00 WHIP, >2/1 K/BB. Average at best?
Wow, a lot of you are truly stupid.
Again with the short sighted numbers. Look at his career. Falls right into the middle of the bell curve for pitchers.
Seriously, I don’t mind being wrong or being called out when I am wrong but when you use a sample size that is irrelevant to the overall picture, you look stupid. It is like saying that 3 out of 4 plate appearances demonstrates a players ability to hit well.”
Ok, I’m looking at his numbers. Granted, prior to this year, he’s been a reliever.
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/players/playerpage/242527
Outside of last year (which was mediocre), what about his numbers screams ‘average at best’? I see a lot of
Girardi has been an AWFUL manager so far.
Name me one good move he’s made.
I dare you.
But is it far to blame him when Cashman deals him this bench thats utterly useless and no bullpen?
Rasner was so good he was DFA’d by the Nationals and the Yankees and no one wanted him last winter in a market that craves pitching.
Yeah, I think he’s pretty average.
OK time for me to check out…. its ridiculous in here.
Everyone enjoy Stuart & the complainers.
Hopefully after the game some of the idiots will be gone.
Even a catcher is now running on Posada. When the Yanks play the Rays and Angels he is going to be a disaster back there.
defeatist… if they dump; hawkins, kyle, add gardner and bring up melancon thsi team will be fine.. if the ycount on these so called VETERANS they are doomed..
Not real complicated… again they need to score cheap runs and eliminate giving up cheap runs.. Look at 1B the first 2 games; Betemit with the teribble play and gimabi with his usual crap..Jorge has to hit good be cause defensivley he is vg at best but more on pass balls but better then AROD is on pops.. watching arod catch a pop fly is scary then again he is the best player in the game ask Brandon……..
Can we get one game where the offense puts the game away by the 4th inning?
One?
I really hate this club thank God we are getting destroyed because MO needs a rest day and this is it.
ok what the heck is going on now
Name me one good move he’s made.
I dare you.
pinch hitting Giambi vs Toronto ?
Geez, if my net connection keeps getting buffered, I’m never going to get to watch the entire game. Anyone else having problems with MLB.tv, or is it just me?
What is Girardi waiting for to take him out? 10-1?? This is pathetic..
For all those who are down on the Yankees think of this… Last year the Yanks didnt reach .500 til July 16th. They are casing teams like the A’s the Jays and Rays for the wild card. All Im saying is relax its a long season.
No mas – trolls and defeatists rule the day.
I expect a big run on A’s hats tomorrow, seems like they have a bunch of new fans on the blog.
B/c if we lose, we are 5 games out of the wild card, and no team has ever overcome that kind of deficit.
Enjoy your bile losers.
This is just comical. I feel like I’m watching a Little League game.
miggs June 11th, 2008 at 11:23 pm
OK time for me to check out…. its ridiculous in here.
So now the board is to blame for the team looking like garbage?
Again, if you like how the team is playing and are happy about it I commend you.
You’re nuts.
“But is it far to blame him when Cashman deals him this bench thats utterly useless and no bullpen?”
We had a bullpen….
“Name me one good move he’s made.”
He used Mo in the 9th last night instead of Farnsworth.
steph: If you’re using premium, switch to regular / 400k. I have issues with premium on my computer.
When this team phones in a game, give them credit, they really phone it in.
Right now the Yanks are a mirror of their record….Will that change ( improve in time ? ) …Yes I do believe….The real concern is will it be too late …..They’ve manage to pull it out the past 4 seasons or so, however the league just gets better….That means there will be very few sellers again this season….This road trip must turn out good….The next two trips to the West Coast will not be as forgiving…They hit Anaheim in early August and then again in early September…..The clock is beginning to run right now….
“Name me one good move he’s made.
I dare you”
Trusting Farnsworth in close games
Oh,wait. You said GOOD moves.
Matty – you’re a baby. Keep crying. Keep whining.
The baseball season is 162 f-ing games long.
A loss is a loss. :shrug: Rasner’s worst start of the year, and a pitcher who’s been excellent this year. :shrug:
Yeah, I’m using premium. It is usually a batter or so behind the 400k, but I’ve only had this much trouble with buffering once or twice. Thanks for the advice!
Girardi take him out!! Giving up 7 runs to the A’s is like 20 runs to a real offense.
Ok, I’m not staying up late for this dreck. Hopefully, they will mount a comeback while I’m sleep.
What will it take for them to trade Hawkins, bring up Gardner and get a 2b/SS on the roster to backup the infield?
A lefty in the pen wouldn’t hurt either.
Is Joe watching this game? If so can he please take out Rasner.
weird he kept rasner in there.
I guess this game has mop up time written all over it.
Farnsworth>Hawkins
Our defense stinks. It really does.
The game is certainly over when you can’t score and are having runs repeatedly tacked on against you while you struggle to get even a measly ball in the air with a runner at 3rd and less than 2 outs. This starting staff is weak mentally, they just never stop the bleeding when the defense makes an error.
Get ready everyone for Cashmans best and only signing over the off season. The King of the Mop Up, LaTroy Hawkins!!
when you say trade hawkins…who exactly is going to give up anything worth a damm for him?
THANK YOU JOE! Its about time you woke up and went out to the mound.
Whiff (Cano’s bat) – Are you even a Yankees fan? If so why?
Why is it that when someone calls out the Yankees for what they are, people on this blog call them out as trolls, non Yankee fans, etc.
Criticism is criticism. There is no need to be objective and find the positive. This is a game, win or lose. If you don’t win, you lose. There is nothing positive about losing. That is what this team is doing right now and most of the season.
If my making comments on the poor offense that has yet to turn it around as many have professed or constant nagging on a sub par team does not fit into your blue skies and white puffy clouds, too bad.
I have been a Yankees fan since I was 7 years old, lived through glory years and not so glory years. I have an expectation of this team and right now they are not performing to that expectation. As such, I am going to point out their negatives, shortcomings, and failure to perform at the level they are suppose to perform at.
By definition, that would make me a fan. Sorry, a hard core fan, not a chardonnay drinking fan who thinks that no one ever loses and only positive things can be said or come out of games. Grow up. The objective is to win and win often, not emulate the Royals, Mariners, Orioles, Rockies, Pirates, Brewers, Reds, etc.
He’ll bounce back.. just not tonight
yeah Miggs go pray to your Arod poster in your bedroom and frost your hair like the softman……..
this team is 33 and 33 after 66 games with a $207 mill payroll… that is the bottom line.. oakland is a seller and have a better record so far for the season…. that is astounding…
but nah I should love watching kyle and latroy and giambi field and cano’s plate discipline, and abreu on a play to the wall or jeter hit into a DP.. all is well why am I bitching… Rasner looks terrible tonight and now they will blow out Ohlendorf. But good news Mo gets the day off… YEAH……..
“The game is certainly over when you can’t score and are having runs repeatedly tacked on against you while you struggle to get even a measly ball in the air with a runner at 3rd and less than 2 outs. This starting staff is weak mentally, they just never stop the bleeding when the defense makes an error.”
Ok, game’s over. They ain’t gonna win. You’re whining and crying and whining some more.
Turn it off. How difficult is that?
Errors happen. The pitcher has to make due and get over it.
Yikes.
And man, I missed Posada’s bat, but his defense has been atrocious. How many balls are going right past him or off his glove, and how many stupid pitches does he keep calling? Chavez has hit the same pitch the same way twice this game and some of the pitch selection has been just apalling, like the 3-2 slider to Guillen. Posada’s bat is tremendous, but he’s always hurt us on defense. Molina is just that much better.
Rasner gets a Raspberry for this outing. Oh well. At least it means I can go to bed earlier. No sense watching another Yankee loss. We’ve seen too many of them this year.
Rasner out please, now for the love of God.
He’s bringing in Ross Ohlendorf…our “long reliever”.
Oh boy.
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Why are you even here V?
You don’t even sound like a Yankee fan. We can’t get pissed off because we are getting blown out by the A’s?
Are you serious? Who died and made you the board leader?
Fans like you who don’t care and don’t get mad when we lose make me sick.
Duchscherer’s been excellent this year; 2.32 era over 54.3 innings (9 starts), with a WHIP of 1.031 prior to tonight. His record was only 5-4 because the Athletics don’t score when he pitches (average runs scored in his games were just below 3…until tonight anyway) He’s also been a pretty good reliever.
He’s either a legit great starter or having a career season, but either way, he’s great right now.
THE LEAGUE HAS FIGURED RASNER OUT! HE’S FINISHED! THE NATIONALS AND YANKS BOTH DFA’D IN! TRADE JOBA FOR SABATHIA NOW!
….or, if you’re a rational fan with a brain, he finally had a bad start after six excellent ones. i’ll take a stinker once every seven starts from any starter any day.
….and here’s Ohlie in mop-up work, where he never should be. is Dan Giese taking a nap or something?
we can always go to the bench we have Molina with his excellent speed and high OBP, or Betemit(who cannot field at anu position and K’s way to much) or Shelley DUncan who has learned to play 1B just like Giambi… A;; is well in Yankeeland..after the game they will make excuses for the hitters they just faced a hot pitcher or some other BS….
The teams problems are on the offense…That is where all the $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ goes but the production is middle of the pack, that is the fact. Hideki may be hitting 320 but he has less HR’s then Melky!!!!!!!!!!!!
Why is Ohlendorf pitching in this game. Correct me if I’m wrong but don’t we already have a long reliever in Dan Giese? Why waste Ohlendorf’s arm in a blowout!?
Get ready everyone for Cashmans best and only signing over the off season. The King of the Mop Up, LaTroy Hawkins!!
LOL..times like this make me miss Nick in SF where ever the hell he is. He’d come up w/ a clever one liner.
It wasn’t a innings ending play.Rasner is what he is.He is a the Molina of pitching.You can’t expect him to be like this a full year of work.
If you can’t criticize a .500 team, why are you on a blog posting during the game?
And God knows this team is a disaster right now. Poorly constructed. But fixable.
Think maybe Ross hasn’t pitched in a while?
No surprises that Ohlendorf is the one that gets called in. Hopefully he can stop the bleeding.
How big is the Coliseum?
Poor Rasner. Unhinged. Happened to DeSalvo, too.
The season is not over, even if we lose this game. No need to jump…
The bench is terrible.
God forbid if anything ever happend to any infielder.
Molina would be playing SS.
Rasner’s first bad outing this season and it comes in front of his family. He had like 25 tickets for tonight’s game.
Last time Ohlendorf pitched was June 5. I think that was about the time he stopped shaving as well…the mustache doesn’t suit him.
Um Strikes Ohlendorf
Kay? Thanks
Blargh, Duchsherer is pitching great!!!!!!!Maybe people use the word great way to often…..
He has started 9 games, he is far from great he has been on the A’s for yrs. and is a nice pitcher that is it…….
“Why are you even here V?
You don’t even sound like a Yankee fan. We can’t get pissed off because we are getting blown out by the A’s?
Are you serious? Who died and made you the board leader?
Fans like you who don’t care and don’t get mad when we lose make me sick.”
I’m not a reactionary imbecile who thinks the team ’sucks’ because they lose a game. I don’t b*tch and whine and cry about every double play or error or strikeout or opponent’s hit.
I think those who do are children.
The season is 162 games. We’re not even halfway there. A -lot- of things can happen by the end of the season, as every f-ing season in recent history should tell you.
However, you have the attention span of a 3 year old, so no, you can’t learn from recent history.
You’re merely a reactionary child. Keep crying.
Whoever had the idea to make Ohlendorf the long man should be fired.
Girardi really hasn’t done a thing as a manager. No hit and runs, no stealing. The only 2 things that I have seen from him is that he leaves the pitcher in to dry even if it is 115 pitches, and he really likes walking the bases loaded when 2 guys are on to make it be even more damage for the team. When he wasn’t the manager all I heard was him going on and on in interviews about scouting and strategies I haven’t any of it.
They’re probably saving Giese for Joba’s outing.
V,
Do us all real fans a favor and get out of here then. If you can’t be passionate and care about the team why do you waste your time on a blog during the game???
I don’t get it. If you think everything is rosy you are a fool.
If you think things don’t need fixing you are a fool.
I pity you.
“Blargh, Duchsherer is pitching great!!!!!!!Maybe people use the word great way to often…..
He has started 9 games, he is far from great he has been on the A’s for yrs. and is a nice pitcher that is it…….”
All else equal, would you take him? Do you think the Red Sox would take him? How about the Cubs?
Do you know anybody who wouldn’t?
He’s been -excellent- this year. He’s been an excellent reliever. :shrug:
“Rasner’s first bad outing this season and it comes in front of his family. He had like 25 tickets for tonight’s game.”
Poor Rasner
“V,
Do us all real fans a favor and get out of here then. If you can’t be passionate and care about the team why do you waste your time on a blog during the game???
I don’t get it. If you think everything is rosy you are a fool.
If you think things don’t need fixing you are a fool.
I pity you.”
Passion does not equal idiocy, moron.
Im on the ledge about this one we could have made up serious ground on TB and kept pace with Boston.
I am glad Cashmna only signed 1 guy in the offseason. I would have been happier if he had signed no one in the offseason.
I agree the Yankee issues are fixable and all internally but num nuts want to trade for the CC”s of the world.. CC would fit in on the Yanks he will have a bloated contract next yr. be significantly overpaid, and be slow..
Yeah he would fit in great on the Yanks……WHy don’t we tade about 4 good prospects for the rental and give him a 8 yr contract like Mike Hampton….
ok, so we’ve got to score 7 runs over 5 innings and hold them, no not likely but certainly possible. Is till won’t say it’s over yet, but even if we lose, Rasner has still been excellent for us this year and will bounce back I think. He’s lost 2 games that if our offense had been awake he could have won, so I’m not going to jump all over him for one game. We’d be in much worse shape without him this year.
Have I said everything is rosy? Have I said everything is perfect? Have I said that I’m happy that Cano’s been batting poorly or that the Yankees are .500? No.
However, I’m not going to belittle every little play and moan and groan and b**** about a loss.
Moves will be made (relief callups would be nice; apparently Cashman’s trying to deal Hawkins for a bag of balls as we speak to open up a 40 man roster spot). Players break out of slumps. Hits eventually string together.
Don’t believe me? Go check out last season’s game log.
“The season is 162 games. We’re not even halfway there. A -lot- of things can happen by the end of the season, as every f-ing season in recent history should tell you.”
That doesn’t mean this game shouldn’t make us all sick and the play thru 64 games shouldn’t make us sick.
Don’t tell us how to feel and how to act. If people want to be angry they damn well have that right.
And no fool named V should be telling anyone how to act.
anyone with an eye can tell you this team is missing a lot. The question is will they fix it.
stuart: I said great NOW
His last 3 starts were against Boston (8 IP/0 runs), Texas (6 IP/2 runs), and Detroit (6.7 IP/2 runs); three of the four best offenses in the AL. He also hasn’t been charged with more than 3 earned runs any time this season so far.
Girardi really hasn’t done a thing as a manager.
I still think that he has no connection with his team to get them to produce. But more so, there were questions about his burning out young pitchers. Well he hasn’t had a chance with Hughes or Kennedy. Joba was in the pen, but he is doing is best to ruin Ohlendorf.
Definitely see the effects of Rasner’s last start which he was over used.
Still not sold on this hiring. Wasn’t sold on Donny baseball either but there were many choices.
melky got screwed on those pitches….
stuart,
You don’t love Cashmans tweaking during the off season???
That great back up plan for when Joba moved into the rotation??
Hawkins? No love???
Obviously the umpire knows the game is over those 2 pitches were 40 feet off the plat.e..
““The season is 162 games. We’re not even halfway there. A -lot- of things can happen by the end of the season, as every f-ing season in recent history should tell you.â€
That doesn’t mean this game shouldn’t make us all sick and the play thru 64 games shouldn’t make us sick.
Don’t tell us how to feel and how to act. If people want to be angry they damn well have that right.
And no fool named V should be telling anyone how to act.
anyone with an eye can tell you this team is missing a lot. The question is will they fix it.”
And I have the right to call you a child and a moron.
:shrug:
Keep acting like a fool. It just makes you look more a fool. And more a fool. And more a fool. If I saw you face to face, I’d laugh at you.
No, this game does not make me ’sick’. That’d be ridiculous.
Figures that idiot Cano swings at a pitch that is shoulder high. He is licky that I am not the manager…How does Girardi ever not just smack him….
That 1 2 3 inning angers me to no end. Not because the Yankees didn’t score but because they had utterly no bite.
Girardi showed me when he pitched to Manny with Moose that he didn’t have “it”.
Who here would have messed that up?
Common sense is all it takes to manager during a game.
way to battle that inning. the millionaires must have reservations at the gentlemans clubs at about 10 Pm in Oakland tonight.
they look like the yare really going to grind it out. .Cano should get a medal I think that was like a 4 pitch AB.. WOW he is patient..
Doesn’t Barton look like Giambi around the bag????
“Figures that idiot Cano swings at a pitch that is shoulder high. He is licky that I am not the manager…How does Girardi ever not just smack him….”
If he didn’t swing, it’d be called a strike. Heh.
Matty
HUGE difference between criticizing and coming completely unhinged.
Why is it okay for you to criticize V’s posts but not for V to criticize yours?
I hope some of you have this much passion over something you actually have control over in your lives.
not that it matters but wheres duchscherers pitch count.
V go to bed. You are too young and too foolish to be up this late.
Your probably a SOx fan.
Any real Yankee fan is sick to their stomach watching this utterly average team yet you’re not.
Interesting.
Yet you post here during games and call fans who are angry at getting blown out “imbeciles and morons”
Makes a lot of sense, V!
Sox fan troll you are.
out of the 10 hits so far, how many are XBH ?
Yeah, I hate it when people use the same complaceny. “The season is new, the Yankees can come back AS ALWAYS…” COME ON. This is not the same team as those that came back. Just because they’re the Yankees DOES NOT mean they are entitled to any of that. They have to earn it, and for $180 million, they are certainly an embarrassment so far this year hovering around .500 almost every day.
This isn’t KC. They are not rebuilding. When you dish out that kind of money, you expect more. Sorry V that we’re not like you where I don’t care that the team is charging me $5 for a freaking slice of pizza and going out there embarrassing themselves on the field. Just because I care doesn’t mean I’m a troll, a red sox fan, or a bandwagoner.
Maybe if the players on the field cared as much about winning as the fans, instead of collecting multi million dollar paychecks while normal people work way more hours for less than 1% of the money they make, the team would be winning games.
118 pitches isn’t that much if you’re not doing it every game, that isn’t overusing him. what you’re seeing the effects of is rasner being an okay but not really that great pitcher.
he had 5 excellent starts and one decent start before this, he was going to even out at some point.
i really enjoy winning a game, then losing a game, then winning a game, then losing a game
I really don’t understand why Olendorf is on this team…He doesn’t have a place and he isn’t consistent enough to be in the minors and especially coming out of the bullpen. He is NOT a long reliever. He really should be in the minors.
V,
You don’t have to troll and change your name to “insanity is alive” to get your point across, troll.
That is embarrassing for you. Go to bed.
looks like the ump is on the take. That curve ball to melky was SSOOOOO not a strike. then the one he punches him out on was only 6 inches off the plate. niicceeeee
I like Cashman and personally would sign him to a extension and go young.. no texiera 8 yr contracts NONE…
bye bye at the end of the year for ; moose, pettitte, abreu, giambi, kyle, hawkins, and that would be a good start… the pen should be well manned they may need a starter or 2…
look for a moderately priced athletic RF and a 1B who can be a 280 20 84 player and that is it..
Guys we coming back tonight???????????Am I too negative?????
People like V would be happy with a high draft pick next and all the vets off the team and go with all the young guys who aren’t as good and win 75 wins next year.
Because it is building from within!
What more after the Minny series did Ohlendorf have to show to get the 6-7 innings?
Why is he the long man?
They trying to stretch him out to be a starter for next yr???
Rasner is allowed a bad outing….But the other crap tonight is not acceptable.. the giambi play, the abreu and arod AB’s…
a 3 zip game would have changed everything instead of 1 to zip…
8-1. Good night folks.
Maybe I will be pleasantly surprised in the morning when the Yankees come back and win this game.
And maybe I will win the Lottery.
And gas will be only $1 a gallon.
That officially did it for me the Yanks dont even deserve the discussion we are having goodnight every one.
“looks like the ump is on the take.”
This isn’t the NBA.
Olendorf has been awful..He ALWAYS gives up runs. Another great job by Cashman with the bullpen. You have Mo, the AAA clowns and the psycho Kyle and his twin. I can do Cashmans job and I will only charge the Yanks $1m and not the $3m or whatever he makes. What a disaster….
Well this has officially turned into one of those nights when every pitch is batting practice. Doesn’t help the .500’s from building momentum but it does happen.
This team is embarrassing. Anyone that isn’t angry watching this and posting here should turn in their fan cards.
Especially trolls like V.
I’m not V and you didn’t answer my question.
Did someone appoint you blog police that you get to decide what V can say and when V should go to bed?
*sigh* good thing ohlendorf came in and stopped the bleeding.
so, getting 2 games over .500 really is proving to be too much to ask of these Yankees so far. and teams like the Rays and Phillies seem to have no issues getting 10 over and maintaining it.
Who here couldn’t put together a better team than Cashman?
Look at the bench and the pen he’s assembled.
It’s almost laughable if it wasn’t so terrible.
Teams with under 50mill for payroll have better benches!
i think ross needs to shave that stache….its not working for him.
They are built for ‘09, not this year, but still this is frustrating to watch. They were definitely good enough coming into this season to at least make the playoffs and if one or two guys like A-Rod and maybe Hughes stepped up,m possibly go deeper. Everything has gone wrong and the team has been wildly inconsistent, or maybe consistent if you consider the fact that they’re at .500 nearly every day.
They aren’t rebuilding, they’re retooling, but to play like this is still a joke. They have so much talent on this roster and you can’t keep making excuses for them. Now they are healthy, the weather is warm, and the schedule is not terribly difficult. If you can’t make a run now, when will you? You can’t keep expecting it to come, you have to start NOW.
insanity is alive June 11th, 2008 at 11:49 pm
I’m not V and you didn’t answer my question.
Did someone appoint you blog police that you get to decide what V can say and when V should go to bed?
Sure V. Good luck trolling. Get a life.
this game blows
Ahhh there he is Latroy Hawkins aka Mr.Clean
good news Latroy is warming up..
YEAH…Latroy is coming in soon….
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What is Posada doing?? He can not block or adjust to any balls. If it is not exactly where he thinks it is going to be then he has no chance to catch it. His defense if that is what you want to call it is pathetic. I would rather have Molina back there.
When will Girardi get it though? OHLENDORF IS NOT A LONG RELIEVER.
Repeat after me: OHLENDORF IS NOT A LONG RELIEVER.
He is a guy who was once a starter who was prepared in spring training as a 1-2 inning guy, a SHORT RELIEVER. He has been abused so badly this year, I’m surprised he hasn’t gone on the DL yet.
I dont care about this game. If its over. Its over. But in regards to Ohlendorf. Its time to demote him. He sucked in the minors and he still sucks. I dont want to hear that he is a one inning pitcher. He hasnt earned a spot out of spring and isnt showing me anything. Just because he throws sinkers. It doesnt make him the next Wang. Time to bring Patterson up. Time for our yearly May shake up in June.
I didn’t know we were going to be treated to “Invasion of the Body Snatchers” tonight. Who are these people in Yankee road gray?
Matt,
They’ve been retooling since 2004. At some point the tools are there or should be. For 200+ I think they should be there at this point.
ok now lets put up 14 right here
I can’t believe it.
I actually miss Trisha’s endless (and occasionally clueless) happy talk.
The same people who call “just” making the playoffs a failure will cry and moan when we win the wildcard. Or they will nearly break their ankles jumping on the bandwagon.
Again, whoever deemed Ohlendorf the long man in this pen should be fired.
He’s not a long man!!
He should be groomed for set up work. Start off in the less pressure 6th inning. One or 2 inning stints.
Not mop up duty in blow outs.
He should be in Scranton closing if this is how he is going to be used.
Yeah. I thought 2006 and 2007 were both years that they had the parts finally together to win it all, and the same crappy playoff performance. The team has had its chances to win and it’s blowing it, and now they aren’t quite as good as they were maybe 2 years ago and they’re going to have to earn it. If Joba and Hughes can develop this year and Melancon, Cox, Sanchez in the pen, they’re going to be good next year, but they can’t just throw away this season with this inconsistent play.
i think ohlendorf might actually be effective if used as a seventh inning guy consistently.
Doreen
June 11th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
I didn’t know we were going to be treated to “Invasion of the Body Snatchers†tonight. Who are these people in Yankee road gray?
its them damn aliens that think its funny to take over the yankees every other game.
i predict a 5 run inning
Since when does .500 and last place get you the Wild Card?
At least we have Girardi who will lead this team to victory. His being hired as manager has made such a big difference with this team. They are climbing in the standings. They are playing well both small ball and long ball. They are doing just great under his leadership.
Too bad the players just aren’t living up to it.
enough on the Ohlendorf misuse BS.. IT is BS, he stunk as a starter and that is why they converted him to the pen, he has not been abused but to watch him often is like being abused.
This team had it’s shot in 2006 and last year. You can’t bring the same team back that lost in the 1st round.
What sense does that make? Not not even improve a 1st rd loser???
Im making a prediction here and I think I will be correct “The 2008 New York Yankees will never reach 5 games over .500.” there I said it.
Matty, keep posting. You look more and more stupid as the night wears on. I was away from my computer for the last 15 minutes, lol.
Bad Defense -
Well, they need to stop it! Now!
(ET go HOME!)
“Im making a prediction here and I think I will be correct “The 2008 New York Yankees will never reach 5 games over .500.†there I said it.”
I say they’ll win at least 90 games.
I’ll still be here at the end of the regular season.
Tough crowd tonight.
Wow, and now the umpire is trying to get out for his dinner reservations. The pitches getting called strikes in this game are embarrassing. If an ump calls a strike zone like him, they should be fired. Unforunately, there is no accountability. Look at the gameday of Melky’s last at bat. 2 called strikes in the other batter’s box.
this umps strikezone is not the same for the yankees…he definitely did not call that 6 inch pitch off the plate for the yanks.
AL from BK go be a met fan, you’re better suited to it
If this team makes you sick, there’s a very simple solution. Stop watching the games. I’m sure they won’t miss you.
So when do we start considering the manager? Would things still be the way they are if Torre was still here?
“I say they’ll win at least 90 games.
I’ll still be here at the end of the regular season”
How can you be watching this game or this season for that matter and honestly think that.
Not that it matters but Arod looks to be completely baffled tonight by his pitches.
“This team is embarrassing. Anyone that isn’t angry watching this and posting here should turn in their fan cards.”
The team isn’t embarrassing – the front office is. This is what happens when mgmt puts together a team that has NO players in their prime. We’ve got post-prime vets and rookies. We can’t rely on any to get the job done. Blame Cashman and the bigwigs (Hank & Co.) that enable him.
Matty, keep posting. You look more and more stupid as the night wears on. I was away from my computer for the last 15 minutes, lol.
I’m not gonna lie I laughed
while i think this team has its flaws, i’m not sure what they should have done in the offseason to dramatically improve this team without gimping other parts?
the reason they signed hawkins and not someone like riske is because after the farnsworth deal the team doesn’t want to sign free agent relievers to three year deals. i don’t blame them, you wind up vastly overpaying and it can blow up in your face horribly.
the only thing maybe they should have done was to sign mike cameron but they wanted to give melky a shot (and this was a pretty sensible move) and they have gardner and jackson in the wings.
In Ohlendorf’s defense, you’re going to pitch differently in both mop up and long relief situations than if you’re coming in for the 8th inning or just one inning. His problem as a starter was that he held back, which is why they wanted to use him in short relief. His transition was successful in the minors and his stuff improved. However, last I knew, mop up duty and long relief wasn’t “short” relief.
“How can you be watching this game or this season for that matter and honestly think that.”
Maybe because they have started like this 2 of the last 3 years.
Oh great my favorite pitcher is in to throw his batting practice….
V, why don’t you stop posting on here if you have nothing to contribute. You never talk about anything related to the game and just sit there criticizing people for, here’s a novel idea, CARING ABOUT A TEAM. That’s what being a FAN is about, in case you were unaware. If you don’t care about the team, you are not a FAN, simple as that.
Just because you don’t care doesn’t mean everyone else is a horrible person who does. Stop flaming and start discussing, otherwise you’re contributing as much as a typical red sox troll.
The team is playing poorly tonight. It’s embarrassing. If you’re a fan, you have the right to be upset.
Girardi has made very few mistakes. he is more then competent to lead this team..
it is on the PLAYERS… good last inning way to work Ducsherer.. man they may not even shower so they can get to the nightclub by 10 and take advantage of some drink specials……
This season isnt like the rest there are less bottom feeders in the AL if anything we are the bottom feeders this year.
For some reason Mr.Clean pitches good only in mop up innings
“I say they’ll win at least 90 games.
I’ll still be here at the end of the regular season.”
I’ll be here at the end of the season too but THERE IS NO WAY this team wins 90 games this year. There not even TRYING to find pitching. This season is all about Joba and eventually Hughes and Kennedy.
hawkins probably will pitch fairly well since this is meaningless. when it matters and you need to come up big hawkins produces like henn, groom, rogers, and a long line of terrible yankee pitchers…
they are taunting the yankees….. we get nancy happy newman after the game……get back at it tommorrow, or you can’t win every game, or tough loss, etc…..
usually the yanks lose closes games but this is a blowout..
Gotta love Hawkins hes the worst recipient of a major league contract ever not named Pavano.
Girardi hasn’t been able to make a huge difference, but if the players don’t produce what can you do? I think besides the long relief situation he’s managed the pen really well, and when you can’t hit with RISP, it’s hard to look good from an offensive standpoint either. If guys are not getting on base and being driven in, it’s hard to risk giving up runners on hit and runs and steals, or giving away outs with a bunt.
So now he gets people out when it means nothing…
You can’t bring up last year either since we don’t even have the proven manager leading the way.
Latroy Hawkins is lights out again in a meaningless situation.
trade Hawkins right now this is his high value mark….
hey maybe we can chip away this inning we have a lot of speed coming up; matsui, giambi, and posada.. 3 guys that can really take advantage of there speed…….
Captains Corner -
It never means nothing. Would you be happier if he gave up some more runs? On the very slim chance the Yankees return to their bodies, don’t you want your relief pitchers to at least hold the score where it is?
“This season isnt like the rest there are less bottom feeders in the AL if anything we are the bottom feeders this year.”
That could be looked at as a good thing. It this was prior years than we would be more games behind the wild card and first than we are today. No one is running away with anything this year. Cleveland and Detroit are struggling. We finally have our full squad healthy. Our young minor league studs are almost ready to come help the bullpen. .500 ball is much better than the 11-19 start or the 14 games behind boston as we were last year. Rasner has saved our rear. I will give him this hickup. Everyone can act any way they want. But dont act like the yankees havnt gone through adversities in the recent past.
hawkins contract was not remotely the worst yankee agreement ever. the guy is getting $3.5 mill for 1 yr.. what are you drinking..
Farnsworth got $17
Pavano $40
Giambi $120
and on and on…
“Latroy Hawkins is lights out again in a meaningless situation.”
It does seem that both he and Farnsworth pitch well in blow-outs, but choke when the game is close or on the line.
Why is it a waste to use Ohlendorf to mop up? Contrary to what has been said, he’s been awful all over, not just after his first inning. 5+ ERA in his first inning. Sucked in the minors, sucked in the majors, dude needs to go back to Scranton and work on a few things, but the front office is too intent on letting him try to work it out on the major league level.
The silver lining to this cloud is that Mo gets a day off. I know it would be preferable for the blowout to be going the other way, but….
This is really bad they havent even gotten a hit since the A’s went off for all those runs.
oh look at that Puma beats the shift
Not 90 wins…
85 and 3rd place in the AL East.
But someone did make the point that this is a bad combination for a team, young talent with over-aged past their prime talent.
Young talent can’t always pick up the past prime talent.
Definitely think they need to house clean sooner than later. Here is the list, and yes I know there are no trade clauses and some that frankly AAA teams don’t want but –
giambi
damon
pettitte
matsui
farnsworth
hawkins
on the fence
mussina
abreu
cano
cabrera
start using the stock pile in Scranton and get them ready for 2009 – 2020 when you can add 6 more championships to this team.
Giambi goes the other wayyyy
Yeah but the difference was 11-19 was in APRIL. By this point that year, they were in first place playing very good baseball. In fact, they pretty much ran off 9 in a row right after they lost the 19th game and turned it around. Last year they were around .500 at the ASB and made the playoffs, but they also pretty much played .700 ball the rest of the year to do so and they had much better starting pitching.
“The silver lining to this cloud is that Mo gets a day off. I know it would be preferable for the blowout to be going the other way, but….”
Doreen – you are truly a Saint. Good for you.
Maybe we should let Cashman walk and hire the A’s player developement team. They seem to come up with new young pitchers year after year.
well that sucked
Just when I was thinking Jorge couldn’t hit into another DP…
I am glad that Giambi is awake tonight…Can it get any worse?…
What’s going on with this team?? If this was a cliche sports movie, Girardi would make everyone go out in pouring rain and scream to the sky soaking wet “WE ARE NOT A 500 TEAM. WE ARE CHAMPIONS!”
But seriously, why are we a .500 team? Is there some sort of magnetic pull weird feng shui curse that keeps them perpetually at .500? I’m gonna try adding up all the players and coaches’ numbers and see if it adds up to 500…
I agree Whiff this is a developmental year or throw away year you need one in order to take that next step its all about 09 baby woo hoo!
I’m sorry that was not a “bad baserunning play” in my mind. Posada hit a rocket. And I thought it was close at 2nd for Giambi.
It’s just one of those nights. But they’ve had too many “one of those nights” this season, it seems.
How was Giambi doubles up when he was at 2nd base.
Simon B.
I totally agree with you. He threw 4 straight balls to start of the inning. A few starts ago he threw some where in the range of 4 pitches and came out the next inning and got roped. His first innings have been almost as bad. Hes not our future closer and his sinker doesnt sink often enough. There handfull of pitchers in the minors that have much more potential. Hopefully they are ready sooner than later so we can finally rid ourselves of the dead weight.
that DP just symbolizes this piece of crap…
were was the speed merchant going???????
now all you morons tell me why that was not a bad play, porr giambi, blah blah blah..
THIS IS A UGLY UGLY GAME…………………………….
Watch Oakland they cannot hit but they can pitch and catch the baseball. you know in baseball the goal is to catch the ball don’t you all??????
Random trivia fact (if you’re interested):
Justin Duchscherer is a former Thunder guy.
From MLB.com: 2000 Career Highlights:
Spent the entire season at Trenton, tying for third in the Eastern League in shutouts (2) and compiling the ninth lowest ERA (3.39)…had the league’s fifth best ratios for fewest walks (2.13) and baserunners (10.99) per nine innings…led the Thunder in starts (24), shutouts (2), innings (143.1), and strikeouts (126) and tied for first in wins (7) and complete games (2)…was selected as Trenton’s pitcher of the year.
That is the teams motto just posted here”It was one of those nights”..
That is a excuse if you did not know..
It was one of those nights when you play stupid uninspired baseball……..
why don’t Flaherty just say it this team is a disgrace, they should give the steinny boys back there paychecks.. The Capt. should lead and be the 1st to do that…….
Yeah, I’m not happy right now.
This is so frustrating.
We have too much deadweight on this roster. Duncan hasn’t played since the end of May. If you’re not going to use him, send him down and bring up Gonzalez. We don’t have anyone who can run for someone late in a game. We have 3 catchers but Moeller practically never plays now anyway and eats up a spot. Ohlendorf is eating a spot in his current role and so is Hawkins, and besides Giese we have not had a long reliever even when our starters were going 3 innings half the time.
The roster is poorly constructed. Time to cut your losses with Hawkins and such, and actually get guys up here who can contribute. We have practically a 3 man pen (Ramirez, Veras, Rivera) since half the guys are totally unreliable in any kind of pressure spot, and Edwar has barely pitched since his one bad outing, not quite unlike what Torre did that destroyed him. He needs work.
thunderfangabe was that before or during the time the Yankees purchased the Thunder
Dee – it is frustrating that they can’t get more than a game over .500. Every time that you think the Yanks are ready to take off, they go back to .500
Good thing Kay the great isn’t doing the game. We would have to hear 1 million times “They really have to start playing better then this…Giambi getting picked off would sound something like you have to wonder what he was thinking there. That was unacceptable.”
I love how farnsworth makes it look easy
Matt,
Your right on. I totally agree.
Good night folks.
That was during the Red Sox ownership, Brandon.
I have a new motto for the team we can say “it was just one of those years” we did not get any breaks.. yeah we played 162 games but got no breaks….
they cannot field, they have limited speed, there pitching is decent at best, if they cannot mash they have no chance as is……………
if pettitie and wang do not pitch better, if they cannot get 2 reliable pen arms besides mo, and if they cannot hit better with RISP, then they are toast………
yeah Giambi is one of the options for player of the game.. now I know why so many posters are morons because YES are morons……
BUMS
You say some incredibly random things when you’re being all hysterical, Stuart.
THe reason they can’t stay over .500 is they don’t have horrible pitching but they don’t have any good pitchers.MUssina is a known first half pitcher,WAng is a overrated Ace,Pettitte should have retired,and Rasner is what he is a spot starter.
There good pitchers but they have major problems.And no one in the minors can help them(at least until they get hurt.)
Remember the days when people saw Ohlendorff as a set-up guy,Duncan as a power hitter from the bench,Wang as a True Ace.I miss does crazy posters fantasy talk.
Al from BK stop trolling, you’re obviously a sox or met fan
“There good pitchers but they have major problems.And no one in the minors can help them(at least until they get hurt.)”
This is what happens when people drink turpentine. Not Pretty.
I hope Pettitte has a good outing tomorrow night and the Yankee bats show up.
Good night all.
Angel what is hysterical.. they are not a very good team.. look at the stats offense mifddle of the road and pitching near the bottom. D does not have many errors but they do not track down many balls.
I would bet there AVG with RISP is way below league avg. besides that this team is great.. They have the best uniforms in baseball and the best fans but the team stinks..
Jeter has played poprly and so has most other players….the only players who have performed well are ; moose, damon, joba, veras, ramirez, and mo.. ramirez and veras because they are young and not much expected.. that is it… name who has played up to expectations????
“That was during the Red Sox ownership”
Made me wonder how he found his way to Oakland so I looked. Traded to Texas for Doug Mirabelli and traded from Texas to Oakland for Luis Vizcaino.
Oakland obviously got the better end of that deal.
oh well, i didn’t expect us to go on the road and sweep the A’s anyway… hopefully pettitte bounces back tomorrow and i think we have a good chance against blanton
How does one watch this team every single night and actually see hope?
Win one. Lose one. Win two. Lose two. Split at home with the Royals. The Royals.
They are 10-16 vs the Central this yr.
The Yankees have needed a year like this since the O’neill
era and I believe it is time we have this year. Following this season the Yanks shed 80 million in salary, bad contracts and old players this is a cleansing period for the most storied franchise in sports history. Next year all those prospects at AAA and even AA will be major league ready if not already on the team. This list includes Humberto Sanchez, Austin Jackson, Mark Melancon, David Robertson, Brett Gardner, J.B. Cox, Phil Hughes(hopefully healthy) and Joba. That is alot to look forward to I have made peace with this season and have decided to take it as it is a work in progress with sights set on 09 and beyond I am glad that this year has happened because in the long run it will have done more good than bad for the franchise.
Girardi showing that tough love tonight. The regulars aren’t sitting tonight.
“Angel what is hysterical”
You are. Don’t get me wrong, its hilarious.
But dude, seriously – I have girlfriends who are less hysterical sounding when they’ve got a massive dose of PMS than you sound sometimes.
lol, you’re gonna give yourself an ulcer or something, if you’re not careful.
Thunder-Yankee connections all around haha
“the only players who have performed well are ; moose, damon, joba, veras, ramirez, and mo”
stuart – you are an idiot or troll.
Matsui is in the top 5 hitters in the AL.
A-Rod is hitting .364 since he’s been back.
5 games out of the wildcard and you are spitting the bit – you are the worst kind of “fan”. You claim to support the team and use that as an excuse to puke all over it every night. Just keep it to yourself.
It’s funny how we say they’re inconsistent, but then if you zoom out a bit they are so maddingly CONSISTENT. W/W/L/L/W/L/W/L/W/W/L/W/L
They have alternated almost every winning streak with an equal losing streak over the last 13 games. 7-6.
They consistently fail to get runners in with less than 2 out and struggle to get base hits with RISP. One error and a pitcher is guaranteed to have a 5 run clunker inning.
It’s so predictable. It’d be nice if they could do something different for a change. You’d think after those tremendous comeback wins that they’d go on a huge tear, nope. Even that fact has become predictable.
I mean, there’s understandable venting frustration and then there’s just losing all sense of logic and reality. Its not healthy.
“I say they’ll win at least 90 games.
I’ll still be here at the end of the regular season.”
I wish I could enjoy Fantasy Land too.
90 games?? What has this team shown this year that makes anyone think they will win 90 games?
The offense just isn’t as good as it was last year when they lead the league in runs and carried a short staff.
They may win the WC but it wont be with 90 wins.
“the O’neill era ”
what? – there is no O’neill era. Please. Tino era? Brosius era? fine.
Jeter era works for me too.
Never retire #21
“Next year all those prospects at AAA and even AA will be major league ready if not already on the team.”
Really? Because the touted Hughes and Kennedy and Ohlendorf and Duncan have been absolutely wonderful!
Seriously. What makes you think Double A prospects are going to come up and win 90+ games?
Prospects are just that. Prospects. Don’t get caught overvaluing them.
And what hitters besides Jackson are on the way up?
thanks for the concern but I will be fine.. It does bother me when I think I care more then some of the players but that is reality.
kyle(farnsworth) could care less, he is making his $5 mill or so, can go hunting, and he can give a crap and I am aware of that. But I expect more fro the jeters, posada’s, and guys like that…
Jeter has not made an error lately but offensively he loosk terrible.. the whole ctructure of the team is terrible. they have no bench option at SS/2b.. none.. Betemit cannot move he is slower then Matsui..
the softness of the team is shocking. who is softer abreu or arod??? who is a hardnosed player on this team? Jorge, anyone else??
Good time to start hitting, down 7 runs in the top of the 9th. It’s a shame we didn’t do stuff like this earlier while we could have gotten back in it.
“what? – there is no O’neill era. Please. Tino era? Brosius era? fine.
Jeter era works for me too.
Never retire #21″
Now we know this guy isn’t a real Yankee fan and is just a troll.
stuart,
Never be ashamed of caring and being angry that the team is playing like a minor league team.
I think the guy who Vox troll trashed O’Neill cared a little don’t you?
I wish we had more of him on this team. A kick in the bum wouldn’t kill these guys would it?
This team needed an Aaron Rowand type for years.
I hope Arod shows up tomorrow. It is amazing how bad he can look sometimes..
If they didn’t go on a tear after the Giambi homer and the comeback vs KC they will never go on a run.
What more do you need to spur you?
Lol very true but thats the way I see it that mantra that I stated in my 12:34 post will get me through the year.
“I hope Arod shows up tomorrow. It is amazing how bad he can look sometimes..”
It’s his fault the starting pitching is inconsistent? How?
If the Yanks actually showed for the other 8 innings then this might actually mean something. Let me guess a DP to end the game?
slammy for Giamibi???
A couple weeks ago Pete posted this..
“Now that they’re playing well, they’re also in position to do some serious damage. Check out the schedule coming up:
at Baltimore (3)
at Minnesota (4)
Toronto (3)
KC (4)
at Oakland (3)
at Houston (3)
SD (3)
Cincy (3)
at Pittsburgh (3)
By the time they head to Shea Stadiium on June 27, the Yankees could be closing in on being 10 games over .500. You get the sense now that the train is coming.”
well, they’re 8-8, or .500, so far during this stretch…and at .500. gonna take a hell of a run during the remainder of this stretch to make Pete’s prediction stand up
think they can go 10-3 over the rest of this stretch?
Teams with 200+ million dollar payrolls that is loaded with all stars and vets and having made the playoffs 12 yrs in a row don’t “retool” for next year.
“It does bother me when I think I care more then some of the players but that is reality.”
That’s your opinion though – not reality. When your grasp on reality is shown to be so tenuous, don’t be confusing the two.
here we go.. back to back to back to back hr’s for the tie.
It’s really getting near time for this team to start selling high by trading Moose and Abreu and start planning for 2009. Get Brett Gardner up here and get him some substanial at bats. This team is obviously mediocre and going nowhere. Note: this is not a “the season is over” e-mail.
We got a .500 team here.
And they will remain so if they don’t make some moves to improve.
Well it could have been worse..like this ..click at your own risk
No one gets as snarky as Angel.
Who picks fights with people on a Yankee message board?
I agree busy bee.
Busy Bee, is that the alias for tonight?
Should be Busy Body.
“It’s his fault the starting pitching is inconsistent? How?”
I didn’t say that but if he and the others showed up today then they should of or could of atleast made the game competitive today. Not many “great” players can often look as bad as he does sometimes. Just making a statement..
Al from BK? Hmmm.
What is that? Bangkok?
Goodnight Moon.
Brooklyn ya douche.
correct that Burger King thats where Im from.
If they did anything, ANYTHING of worth the first 8, those 3 runs might have meant something. Of course now they’ll blame the pitching, saying they scored “enough” with their 3 late runs to make it 4, but maybe if this team didn’t hit like they did the first 8 it would have been a game? So what the pitching gave up 8. They would have lost if Rasner pitched his same 8 IP 2 ER besides that 9th inning outburst against the mop up guys. Can’t blame the pitching for 1 run.
3-2 Monday, 2-1 Friday. Can’t win if you can’t score. The pitching was bad tonight, but more often than not it’s keeping them in games. If they weren’t last with RISP and scoring so inconsistently, they might win some games.
the team as a whole reminds me a lot of Cano’s individual season. everytime you think they’re gonna get going, they get crappy again.
Their RISP numbers are definitely frustrating.
window dressing. .still not a big hit when it counts.. then again if they got a big hit they would not be the 2008 version of the yankees..
25th time at 500.. they are what they are a $207 mill. 500 team. .WOW, I thought they would be better then that shows how much I know…
not a suprise kyle and latroy have a clean inning tonight when it does not matter because they both have no heart..
imagine a yankee team with a 1B that can actually move laterally.. It has not happened in years so I know you can’t expect that when you only spend $207 mill on your team.. also a utility guy who can play or a pinch running option late, what do you expect for $207 mill.???
good night all…
I’m out guys I don’t think I can handle this team on a day to day basis and given my mantra I should not be concerned about June 08 Im more concerned about 09 g-night.
prediction: The Yankees are on the road for awhile they are either going to find thierselves or burry themselves either way Joe is not going to continue to allow this team to be .500 for long, especially w/o sending a message.
Is anything gonna ever be done about Cano or they just gonna keep sending him out there day after day continuing his run at being the worst everyday player in baseball this year?
Fix the damn bench so you have somebody who can play second while you bench his apathetic butt.
hey can I ask you guys a question? How bad do you think it will have to get for us to be sellers at the trade deadline?
Yanks looked old tonight.. no life. However its all about winning series.. Lets win tommorow and then kill houston… We need too get on a role
We have seen it threw the years but this lineup has alot of quitters. As soon as they go down by 3-4 runs they give up. Cano and Melky 80% of the time has useless at bats, alot of the others just give up assuming that the game is over. I feel like alot of them just don’t show alot of fight or belief that they can come back. They just give up right away…Very soon we just have to realize that the team is just not good and they will win 85 games this year and that is all. A .500 team is exactly what they look like..some nights they look good but most of them they are not good.
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Cano’s SLG is lower than his OBP was last season.
This is not a slow start anymore. Something is seriously wrong with this kid. Something has to be done. What I don’t know, but this is unexcusable at this point.
There are a few things that need to be done, NOW, to this roster. Stop lugging along this deadweight. We need to maximize the roster with this team.
1) Send Duncan back to AAA. If he is not going to even be used against LHP, Betemit will fill every role he could possibly fill. He has not had an at bat since May 28. Send him somewhere where he can stay sharp. Bring up Gonzalez in his place as utility and to make Cano focus.
2) Release Hawkins. If you can’t use him except in blow outs, he is useless to this team. He is a free agent, just eat his contract already. It’s better than losing games. They have so many arms in the minors, bring up someone in his place. Melancon maybe?
3) Send Ohlendorf back down. He is not a long reliever and is being misused as such and pitching really poorly. He shows signs of being good but is too inconsistent. Bring up Patterson in his place, at least he showed some potential and didn’t let innings unravel around him.
How can you go around with a 3 man pen (Veras, Ramirez, Rivera) because half the guys in it cannot be trusted in pressure spots?
4) Send Moeller back through waivers. I love him, he’s a great back up, but 3 catchers on the roster is a waste since Posada is healthy again. Moeller cleared waivers last time and maybe he will again. He is not even playing and is wasting a spot right now that could go to someone like Gardner, who can pinch run, play some good outfield defense to spell a guy, and who can nudge Melky a bit while he keeps making stupid plays like sliding into first base. Gardner would fit well at the bottom of the lineup with great speed and a good OBP.
5)Use Giese as the long reliever. Joba is at 95 pitches, no more piggybacking needed. Start using him on a more consistent basis to eat up some innings. It’s astounding how with guys going out there consistently for 3 or 4 innings we continued to have no long reliever available out of the pen. Giese is in his 30’s, he’s not developing. You can afford to use him as such. 2 or 3 innings every 2 or 3 days would save the pen big time.
How can you expect to win with so much deadweight on the roster? They have to maximize the roster to maximize their chances of winning.
I’m really frustrated with this team.
Cashman really needs to do something. Work the phones. See if we can get C.C. Sabathia for Cano.
What do you guys think about that idea?
(just kidding)
Well Erick Threets cleared waivers unbelieveable not even a minor league contract offer by the Yankees.
hello ? … anyone …
damn
:turns off the lights:
Im so sick of hearin brett gardners name, he is NOT the answer.. so stop.
I get the feeling people are upset with this team
even if you lose all the “deadweight” we still have a lineup that can’t get it done and we saw that last night. Outside of Wang, our starting pitching is shaky. And as I’ve said previously, the lineup we saw last night (what I like to call the A list lineup: Damon, Jeter, Abreu, ARod, Giambi, Cano, Melky, Jorge, Matsui) got knocked out of the 1st round of the playoffs last year. So we have fundamental issues with our go-to guys. So its not just the bench and the relievers that need changing – some of our fav players may have to go also. This team needs major reconstruction.