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Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 12, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

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I’ve been a total slacker answering e-mails on the blog. So here are some of the best questions in recent days:

Steve writes: Do you have any insight into what the Yankees are going to do when Kennedy and Hughes come off the DL? The five starters they have going right now are doing all right for themselves. Assuming no one gets hurt, what happens to the rotation when it is time for them to come back?

Answer: Hughes won’t be back until late July or August, so that’s a concern for another day. IPK could be back in a week or two. I would guess that he’ll get a start or two in the minors before the Yankees deem him ready for the majors. We’ll see how Darrell Rasner looks then.

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Jon writes: What do you think about the Yankees eventually retiring Bernie Williams’ No. 51?

Answer: My policy on retired numbers for any team in any sport would be this: Any Hall of Famer who spent 80 percent of his career with a team would be eligible to have his number retired. Exceptions could be made for special circumstances (such as Thurman Munson). I think too many teams, including the Yankees, have retired too many numbers.

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Mike writes: I’m guessing that I’m not the only one a little worried about Robinson Cano. Should I be? I realize that he, in his short history, is a slow starter. He looks like he’s lacking confidence at the plate. Have pitchers been exploiting a hole in his swing? Are they simply exploiting his tendency to swing at pitches outside the zone? Are they exploiting things at all or is he just routinely getting himself out?

Answer: Cano is very talented, but thinks that talent is enough to allow him to swing at bad pitches. So while he makes contact pretty easily, he often doesn’t do much with the ball. He lacks discipline as a hitter. I think the Yankees need to be a little tougher with him, maybe even sit him for a few days. The problem is they lack alternatives.

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Matt writes: How come the Yankees never play day games on the road? Every other team gets afternoon games when they have to leave town.

Answer: I think the intent is to screw the beat writers from getting home a day early, Matt. Seriously, it’s all about the money. Most teams draw more at night and when the Yankees are in town, they want to fill up the coffers.

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Anthony writes: Where is Carl Pavano when you need him? Seriously, what is his status? This guy has robbed us and the Yankees millions of dollars. It’s been one full year since he has hit the DL for the umpteenth time. Can you let me know?

Answer: Pavano is rehabbing from Tommy John surgery down in Tampa. His agent claims he could be ready in August. Yeah, and I’ll be ready for the Olympic marathon in August. I don’t think you’ll ever see him in pinstripes again.

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Roland writes: Leave my manager alone, he owes you guys in the media nothing at all. We the fans get all our info off the YES network before and after games. We don’t need any of you reporters starting trouble and distorting the truth.

Answer: We had a rough start, but the beat writers and the manager have gotten along pretty well lately. I’d be careful about believing everything you see on YES. They’re the same network that runs those Giuseppe Franco commercials. And don’t forget that Girardi made his living in the media for a few years. He’s fine with answering questions.

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Barry writes: You wrote how unlikely it is that the Yanks will pick up Jason Giambi’s option for next year at $22 million. But is it allowable under MLB rules if, say, they fail to sign Teixiera in the off-season, to decline Giambi’s option but then resign him at perhaps $12 million per season or the like?

Answer: Sure, they can decline the option than negotiate a new deal. I’m not sure that will happen, either. But it’s certainly possible.

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Chris writes: Don’t you think we would have a much more dynamic bench with Brett Gardner, Alberto Gonzalez and Jason Lane (plus Jose Molina)? I know Betemit would be a monetary loss as a DFA, and they want to give Shelley a chance. But I think Betemit is a liability defensively, had no real speed for pinch running, and strikes out way too much in a way that outweighs the occasional homer. As for Shelley, I say play him every day or send him down, because he has no rhythm and looks awful.

Answer: I think we all spend too much time on the bench. For a team like the Yankees, who comes off the pine has very little impact on the season unless a player is out for a long time with an injury. Even then, few teams have starter-quality player in reserve. I think the Yankees could use somebody who can run and somebody who can play some defense at first, however.

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Loren writes: What is the status of Humberto Sanchez? He had his Tommy John in 2006, didn’t he?

Answer: The TJ surgery was last April 17, so he is coming up on 14 months. He’s throwing BP and will soon work his way to a minor-league team.

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Sheila writes: Pete, do you ever see the players out on the town when you’re on the road?

Answer: Sometimes, but not very often. Most of the cities we’re in are pretty big, so the odds of running into somebody are fairly slim. This is a funny story: In Chicago a few weeks back I went to lunch with a friend before the game. As we were leaving, Derek Jeter and Jorge Posada were coming in. We said hello and chatted for a few seconds before they sat down. The maître d’ was all impressed, gave me his card and said to come back any time. My friend laughed. “What, were we not welcome back before?” she said.

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Thanks for the questions. Feel free to e-mail me with any that you have.

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284 Responses to “The mailbag opens back up”

  1. VT Yankeefan June 12th, 2008 at 4:35 am

    My take on Yankee retired numbers:

    1 Billy Martin Questionable, he only won one world series as a Yankee manager
    3 Babe Ruth Absolutely
    4 Lou Gehrig Absolutely
    5 Joe DiMaggio Absolutely
    7 Mickey Mantle Absolutely
    8 Bill Dickey I never saw him play but he hasn’t seemed to leave much of a legacy.
    8 Yogi Berra Absolutely
    9 Roger Maris Lean towards yes. An epic record that probably should still stand.
    10 Phil Rizzuto I loved the scooter but retiring the # is seriously questionable
    15 Thurman Munson Absolutely, we’ll never know if he would have made it on merit alone.
    16 Whitey Ford Yes Stengel use of him cost him big numbers but he is a great.
    23 Don Mattingly Probably not.
    32 Elston Howard I never saw him play but he hasn’t seemed to leave much of a legacy.
    37 Casey Stengel Absolutely
    42 Jackie Robinson
    44 Reggie Jackson I’d say yes if more of his career had been in NY
    49 Ron Guidry Probably not.

  2. Plank June 12th, 2008 at 5:06 am

    “This is a funny story: In Chicago a few weeks back I went to lunch with a friend before the game. As we were leaving, Derek Jeter and Jorge Posada were coming in. We said hello and chatted for a few seconds before they sat down. The maître d’ was all impressed, gave me his card and said to come back any time. My friend laughed. “What, were we not welcome back before?” she said.”

    Why don’t you tell us a little more about this ‘friend’? ;)

  3. YanksAngel June 12th, 2008 at 6:49 am

    Plank – You caught the ‘she’ in that story too lol

    :)

  4. Zippy June 12th, 2008 at 7:11 am

    Oh yeah retire Mattingly’s number for all those postseason heroics. He’s right up there with A-Rod.

  5. Vader June 12th, 2008 at 7:15 am

    Pete,

    You should see if DJ could do that every now and then, maybe it would work as him being your wing man…if only for a few seconds.

  6. Vader June 12th, 2008 at 7:30 am

    It is not his fault that the Yankees couldn’t field a pitching staff during his playing days…at tleast he will go down with a BA over .400 for the post season.

    I was at the 95 post season games and when he hit that home run, before Lerytiz hit the walk-off in the rain, the Stadium was crazy….letting him know just how much the fans appreciated him.

    I iwill always remeber that 95 season, the game in Toronto when he goes down hits the turf and thinking finally, probably the same thing he was thinking.

    If it wasn’t for the strike in 94 the Yankees..he may of gotten himself a ring.

    So, for anyone that watched the Yankees through the 80′s knows that he was one of the only homegrown players to really root for..Oh, I forgot Kevin Mass and Jay Buhner.

    If not for a bad back, he may have made it to the Hof.

  7. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 7:43 am

    This team blows right now. Hoping for another .700 winning spree like last year is a dream at the moment. The staff right now isn’t in place. The team can’t hit worth a crap, especially with RISP. Abreu and Arod have whiffed 13 and 15 times respectively when they’re up and have runners on base. Talk about going no where fast. Pathetic.

  8. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 7:48 am

    If you didn’t notice, I’m venting.

    This team needs an enema.

  9. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 7:55 am

    Or a boat load of more viagra…

    mediocre team…

  10. Wang IS Taiwan June 12th, 2008 at 7:58 am

    HOW many years are we stuck with Mr. Low Average with RISP? Ugh.

  11. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 8:05 am

    If this team is going to hover around the shallow end of the pool for the rest of the summer, blow it up. Call up AJax, Gardner, Melancon, Cox (if he’s not hurt), Aceves, Robertson, Horne, Montero, see what they got. If the Yanks are going to stay at .500, might as well as see what the farm really has that has any value. I bet that even with Scranton playing in the show, the Yanks stay at .500 so who cares?

  12. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 8:06 am

    Bring on the farm Cash. It can’t be any worse than the team that’s on the field right now.

  13. Triple OG June 12th, 2008 at 8:19 am

    June 12th, 2008 at 8:03 am
    I think it is time we as Yankees fan need to realize, this team is what it is. Before the season started a lot of people on here loved our bench. They had a good feeling about our pitching as I did. We might have a 200 mil dollar payroll but we are a .500 team. Can it be fixed? Yes. The one thing that really gets me going is when I read people on this blog saying “Its early” got a lot of season left. Yes it is early, but are you watching this team? Week after week I hear this and nothing looks like this team is about to break out of this funk. Just frustrating

  14. randy l June 12th, 2008 at 8:27 am

    “Bring on the farm Cash. It can’t be any worse than the team that’s on the field right now.”

    sure it could. they could be 7-8 games under .500.

    with the offense continuing to be a problem, it’s time to look at the hitting coach. the offense did fine with long last year, but this is the first year that mattingly is not there.

    if mattingly were available i’d make the switch to him just to change things up, but he isn’t so the yankees are stuck with long. one thing that jumps out with the lack of offense is that the yankees do not walk or work pitchers like they used to do.

    what is long’s role if any with this?

    i think it’s safe to say it’s not something long preaches. if he does, it’s not connecting with the hitters.

  15. jennifer June 12th, 2008 at 8:29 am

    Why does anyone care about Carl Pavano?

  16. Doreen June 12th, 2008 at 8:32 am

    randy l-

    When I read how the A’s had a “team-wide approach” to Darrell Rasner, sitting on his outside fastball, it makes me wonder, don’t the Yankees ever have a team-wide approach? It just looks like to me that they don’t make adjustments – they do the same thing day in and day out; sometimes it works (50%) and sometimes it doesn’t (50%). Don’t they scout? Do they review scouting reports? Do the hitters even pay attention to such reports if they’re done? Or do these million dollar players think they don’t need help? I’m not being facetious. I am seriously wondering about this.

    And I agree, fielding a team of AAA players has the potential of being emminently worse!

  17. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 8:33 am

    “sure it could. they could be 7-8 games under .500.”

    Last place is last place – .500 or 8 games under .500

  18. Doreen June 12th, 2008 at 8:36 am

    Oh, one more thing – about working the count, etc. That’s been a philosophy on this team for pretty much ever. I can’t imagine that Long has said not to do that anymore. Perhaps he’s encouraged them to be more aggressive against pitchers known to throw strike one? Or against pitchers they don’t know or don’t generally do well against?

    But he did a good job last year and many of the players credit their success to his approach. I’m not one to throw coaches under the bus – the players have to execute. I mean, you could just as easily be questioning Eiland – was it a mistake to bring him up?

    What it boils down to for me is hitters like Arod (not just him) who don’t hit consistently with RISP (you can’t say he hasn’t – he just hasn’t done it enough), and not even getting productive outs in those situations. And it also boils down to pitchers like Andy Pettitte not being able to put hitters away when they get 0-2 on them.

  19. Doreen June 12th, 2008 at 8:38 am

    sunny615 -

    Except, the more losses you have and the farther back you are, the less likely it is to have a renaissance. It’s like when you’re on a diet and have a cookie, which doesn’t do a lot of damage in itself, but then you give up on yourself and eat the whole box.

  20. jennifer June 12th, 2008 at 8:40 am

    Thankfully tonight is the last 10pm start of the road trip. Although it does stink for the team that they had to go all the way out west for 3 games, why not make it a 9 game road trip and hit all the wc teams? Too logical. And to think I heard some Met fan crying on the radio that the Mets only had 6 games out west.

  21. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 8:42 am

    I understand that Doreen, but my point is – if this team (as currently constructed) can’t find ways to win and consistently hovers around .500 – and goes 81-81, and misses the playoffs by a wide margin, then what difference does it make if they go 81-81 or 70-92? Third place, fourth place, last place… they still aren’t going to the playoffs.

    If they’re still hovering around .500 and/or last place after the ASB and are 10+ games out (of the WC or division), why not just use the time to assess the farm. See who really can be role players in the future and give this team a lift and some life.

  22. jennifer June 12th, 2008 at 8:43 am

    Can someone explain to me why people think JB Cox going on the dl is fake? Don’t they want to bring him up to the majors? Why would they dl him?

  23. Doreen June 12th, 2008 at 8:50 am

    sunny615 -

    I think that’s the issue. How long before you make that assessment? There are too many games, and the talent is too good, to “give up” right now. But at what point in the season?

    A lot of teams in the recent past have turned around horrible starts after the ASB to win their divisions or a wild card spot. It’s not outside the realm of possibility that the Yankees can do it; they have before. But when do the odds of playing catch-up catch up with you? (God, I sound like Carrie Bradshaw!)

  24. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 8:52 am

    I can think of three reasons for DL’ing Cox:

    1) they want to move someone up from trenton and don’t have the space

    2) they’re looking for a trade and want to “protect” cox from being on anyone’s list

    3) getting him ready to promote after Hawkins is gone and want to bring someone else up.

  25. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 8:57 am

    I understand that a lot of the pieces in place currently are unmoveable (Arod, Jeter, Giambi, etc), but there are a lot of places that you could see what you can do to improve the team. As currently constructed, this team is pretty lifeless. If pitching is there, the offense is not, if the offense is there, the pitcher can’t throw a strike, or, neither show up. It’s intensely frustrating to watch a team with so much talent just hover an mediocrity. I think it’d be obvious by the ASB, if this team can or cannot break out of whatever funk they’re in. If not, then why not see if anyone down below can help with the team? Honestly, what have you got to lose? With more than half the season over at that point, you’ve got to do something. And most of this team is untradeable (at least without eating a whole bunch of money or losing a lot of talent in the farm). And I have qualms about the “they did it last year” argument. They’re were signs of breaking out of their slump last year by June… Cano and Melky starting hitting again. Arod was still hot. And so on… I gotta go to a meeting now, but I think at some point it should become obvious if the team is showing signs of improvement. And if by the ASB, those signs are still absent, they should think about it IMO.

  26. SJ44 June 12th, 2008 at 9:01 am

    Cox’s injury isn’t fake. Shoulder fatigue, not uncommon with players coming off TJ Surgery, and he should be ok in a week or two.

    I feel like we can just copy and paste the comments to different threads we have each day about this team.

    That’s not a bang on the posters. Its just how maddening it is to watch this team.

    A 12 year old could have made the play Giambi missed last night. Don’t tell me about his offense. He’s still hitting under .200 with RISP. His play at first base is embarrassing. Then, like clockwork, the entire team unravels.

    Rasner falls apart, the offense is dead as usual, and its another sleepwalking loss.

    I think folks are banking too much on something fluky (like last years surge) happening again this season to turn things around.

    At some point, you have to string together solid outings. Offense, defense, pitching, the whole schbang.

    This team just can’t do it. They try but, they can’t do it.

    Perhaps they will in July, August, or whenever. Right now? Can’t be done.

    If it could, we would have already seen it.

    My feeling about this team is simple. Don’t talk to me about the playoffs, stats, or how good this team is, until they get 5 over .500. If they do, then we can talk about how “good” they are.

    Until then, they are what they are….an average team and nothing more.

  27. buck turgidson June 12th, 2008 at 9:15 am

    “Where is Carl Pavano when you need him?”

    As far as I am concerned, he is right wear he needs to be–as far away from the mound as possible

  28. Humpty Dumpty June 12th, 2008 at 9:17 am

    The Yankees positively MUST lead all of baseball in one game winning streaks.

    Hey! ….. let’s start another one tonight

  29. Sforza June 12th, 2008 at 9:18 am

    maybe the maître d’ would have asked you to come back before, had you not left such a cheap tip… lmk.

  30. NYY June 12th, 2008 at 9:20 am

    Oakland had a team-wide approach and it was to sit on his fastball away and hammer it. Rasner never really established his four-seamer inside.

    So does this mean other teams will be able to use the same approach against Rasner. And if it is true then it bad news for Rasner.

  31. jennifer June 12th, 2008 at 9:22 am

    Too bad about Brackman, it sets him back 3 weeks at least. :(

  32. SJ44 June 12th, 2008 at 9:26 am

    Really doesn’t hurt him Jennifer. I think its great they believe he will be ready to pitch in the AZ Fall League.

    That means, if he comes out of it healthy, he will be ready for spring training next year. That’s a positive.

  33. TurnTwo June 12th, 2008 at 9:30 am

    “Until then, they are what they are….an average team and nothing more.”

    and that basically negates all of the Sabathia talk we had yesterday, at least for me. I’m making that move as soon as my offense shows me they can perform consistently enough to ensure that when we get a quality start, our offense makes it count.

    “Too bad about Brackman, it sets him back 3 weeks at least.”

    honestly, does it really matter? he wasnt scheduled to pitch this season, anyway, right? so its not like this takes him out of structured games. just alleviates another poss prob for when he finally does get on the field for 2009.

  34. buck turgidson June 12th, 2008 at 9:33 am

    “8 Bill Dickey I never saw him play but he hasn’t seemed to leave much of a legacy”

    Yeah, you know…he is only a hall of famer who spent his whole career with the Yankees. He was the catcher on all those great teams in the 30′s and early 40′s.

    No legacy at all.

  35. dennnis-costanza(Sox fan) June 12th, 2008 at 9:36 am

    Good Morning.

    Interesting observation while reading this AM.

    Toronto is 34-34 and their RS-277 RA-252 (+25 differential)

    LA Angels are 41-26(best record in the AL. RS-284 RA-277 (only a +7 differential.

    If you did not see the records and just the run differential then you would think the +25 was 41-26.

    I think this points to cluth hitting in very close ball games. It does lend credence to SJ’s point of the importance to hitting with RISP.

    One last note, it is frustrating that the Yanks and Sox ALWAYS have night games on road get away days. I know it is about gate receipts but there is no way the Yanks should not be playing this afternoon.

    Take Care,

    -dennis

  36. Laura June 12th, 2008 at 9:41 am

    Mattingly deserved to have his number retired because during the 80′s, Mattingly was all we had to root for.

  37. morning star June 12th, 2008 at 9:43 am

    How about something positive? Anyone catch Zach McAllister last night?

  38. keith June 12th, 2008 at 9:44 am

    Sunny615,

    Suggesting the Yankees bring up Montero totally invalidates your opinion on all things baseball.

  39. Triple OG June 12th, 2008 at 9:48 am

    Aiso I dont see any player showing any emotion. It seems it like Oh well our hitting with runners in scoring position is terrrble. I who like to see someone break a bat or a helment. Knock the water cooler over. Something

  40. TurnTwo June 12th, 2008 at 9:51 am

    “I who like to see someone break a bat or a helment. Knock the water cooler over. Something”

    then you’d have people complaining that they are showing up the other team.

    i dont disagree with you, but its true…

  41. V June 12th, 2008 at 9:53 am

    In the -last 30 days- alone (stats courtest of mlb.com), compared to the rest of the MLB, the Yankees are 2nd in average (to the Rangers), 3rd in OBP (to the Rangers and Phillies), and 8th in Slugging Percentage; 5th in OPS, 10th in runs scored, 16th in homeruns.

    :shrug:

  42. SJ44 June 12th, 2008 at 9:54 am

    TurnTwo,

    Agreed.

    Watching last night, I thought to myself the same thing.

    This team isn’t good enough to try and be bold and make a deal like that in season.

    Play it out, call up more of the younger guys during the year, and then use the off-season to completely remake the team.

    Use this season to find out which young guys can really play, which are overhyped, and which are useless. If you happen to get hot and make a playoff run? Terrific.

    To just keep the status quo and make a playoff run? Not happening, IMO. Its also not what’s best for the future of the team.

    Its a bad mix of over the hill veterans, erratic young players and star players. Its not a team. Its just a bunch of names.

    There is no identity to this team. What are they? A high powered offense? No. A team built around great pitching and defense? No. Its just a bunch of guys playing each day hoping today is the day things turn around. Not the way it works in baseball. That’s why they are such an erratic team.

    After every game, we hear Girardi and the players say, “We are better than this”. Guess what? They aren’t. If they were, they would have already shown it.

    The season is almost 50% in the can. I know folks will say, “look at last year”. I did. I saw a team that was awful for most of the year, got hot, made the playoffs, and died a quick death. That was the 2007 season. Not a successful season, IMO. Not for a team with a 200 million payroll. You can get those results with a 80 million dollar payroll. Why waste the money? Put it into signing Michael Iona. lol

    They are 4-13 in their last 17 post-season games for a reason. Like an NBA team that makes a huge comeback in a game, they often run out of gas at the end and fall short of victory.

    Perhaps they will “put it all together” and go on a great second half run like last year. Depending on it? Fools gold, IMO.

    The one thing the Yankees had going for them last year was they could usually slug their way through their flaws 3-4 times a week.

    Those days are gone. This team can’t hit with RISP, and that makes their flaws (starting pitching and defense) really standout.

    Its also not a great home team this year. That’s troubling because this has been the year of the home team so far in MLB.

    Their 15 home losses ties Toronto for worst in the division. A bad sign considering they will spend most of July at home.

  43. Triple OG June 12th, 2008 at 9:55 am

    V

    That tells me our pitching sucks

  44. murphydog June 12th, 2008 at 9:56 am

    TurnTwo

    “and that basically negates all of the Sabathia talk we had yesterday, at least for me. I’m making that move as soon as my offense shows me they can perform consistently enough to ensure that when we get a quality start, our offense makes it count.”

    I can agree with that. Why take the risk and get CC if his efforts will be flushed by a lack of consistent offense and sub-par defense?

    I also see, however, a value in making a move now to upset the apple cart. If an under-performing and inconsistent “star” (Cano) can be traded for appropriate value, it speaks loud and clear to the rest of the team: “This is still a business and the goal is winning. We will take all reasonable steps to improve this team and make changes wherever necessary.”

  45. SJ44 June 12th, 2008 at 9:59 am

    V,

    The problem with stat quoting is, without context, they are meaningless.

    How are they with RISP? I believe they are 9th in the AL this year. Sorry but, that invalidates every positive offensive stats about the Yankees this season.

    If a team with Derek Jeter, Alex Rodriquez, Jason Giambi, Bobby Abreu, Hideki Matsui and Johnny Damon, among others, is 9th in the AL in hitting with RISP, its a bad hitting team.

    You can load up your stats with a few 8-10 runs in a streak and they look really good on the overall stat list.

    However, if you can’t string together solid offense, you don’t win games.

    I’d rather have an offense that averages 6 runs a game by scoring 6 runs a game, not by scoring 12 runs one game and zero the next.

    Still averages 6 runs a game but yields an entirely different result.

  46. TurnTwo June 12th, 2008 at 10:02 am

    murphydog, yeah, i can agree with that, too… its actually the fundamental premise that M&MD were talking about on the radio last night about the mets.

    take a jose reyes, trade him for another budding superstar, and change the dynamic of the team and the clubhouse, and demonstrate accountability.

    however, im not sure that would work in this case, because this team is made up of a bunch of veterans that have been thru all this before, several times over…

    i think youd actually have to do it backwards… dont trade Cano to shakeup the team, but move a veteran to show the young guys like Melky and Cano that noone is safe, especially if you’re banking your future on these guys and their continued development.

  47. Anna June 12th, 2008 at 10:03 am

    Pete, I’m still very bothered by your lack of response to accusations made at another site in reference to you posting there under the pseudonym “Interested Reader.” There has been a pretty extensive discussion of it over at ThinkFactory that make me take pause. It seems that the site in question uses email response verification. With that knowledge, I don’t see how I cannot believe that you are in fact the poster in question. While I don’t think the comments that “you” made were out of line, you have made reference many times to trolls on your own site hiding behind the anonymity of the internet. It’s bothersome, to say the least, that you would resort to the same tactic.

  48. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 10:06 am

    “Call up AJax, Gardner, Melancon, Cox (if he’s not hurt), Aceves, Robertson, Horne, Montero, see what they got.”

    Didn’t have your coffee yet this AM?

    Montero is in LOW A ball. AJax is in AA. Aceves has like 3 AA starts to his name. Horne has pitched 4 innings since he came off of the DL. Cox is on the DL at the moment. Melancon is in AA.

    In other words, I think your suggestions have no merit.

  49. murphydog June 12th, 2008 at 10:08 am

    SJ:

    Your description of the team sounds right to me. It’s just a collection of names at the moment. The Yankees have somehow staved off this day for years now. Much as I have ripped Olney for his Nostradamus act, he was more right than wrong in his Last Night of the Yankee Dynasty.

    In business and baseball, (not that they are different) poor executive management leads to an inability to compete with rivals, bad performance, unwieldy debt, lack of flexibility in dealing with changing circumstances, and an aging and unbalanced workforce with skills not suited to the tasks at hand. We are seeing the result of years of poor drafting, ill-advised trades and bad contracts, the legacy of the Big Stein Era.

    The good news is the talent in the pipeline. My fear is that The Core will be on its way out before fresh troops arrive.

  50. jrealty (formerly Jesse) June 12th, 2008 at 10:09 am

    Bettina Damiani, director of Good Jobs New York, said an IRS reversal “would be opening the floodgates. It defies all fiscal common sense to subsidize wealthy sports teams.”

    Interesting article in the paper today.

    Is anyone else outraged that the Yankees want another 350 million in taxpayer backed bonds to finish the stadium?

    I believe in capitalism where I make a product or offer a service that somebody else agrees to buy based strictly on it’s merits and everybody is happy.

    But, it seems like all of these sports owners believe in capitalism (where they rake in the money) except when it comes time to build a new stadium then they believe in socialism where a little bit is taken from many others (taxpayers, some of whom may not even be fans of any sport) to support the greater good (or is that greed of the owner)?

    Thoughts??

  51. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 10:09 am

    “Last place is last place – .500 or 8 games under .500″

    Really, is it really the same thing?

  52. bigjf June 12th, 2008 at 10:12 am

    On the Giambi pay cut question, I didn’t see if this was mentioned already but he has a $5 million buyout if the Yanks decline his option, so if they pay him that and then sign him to a 1-year $12 million deal, then they just payed him $17 million anyway. I know it still saves $5 million and this type of scenario wouldn’t likely happen anyway (nor would I necessarily want it to), but just pointing that out…

  53. V June 12th, 2008 at 10:17 am

    SJ44, I’m seen absolutely zero evidence in any statistics that shows that hitting with RISP is significantly different from hitting in general.

    Here’s one of the first sites I found when looking it up: http://www.baseball-fever.com/.....p?p=463178

    Outside of a handful of outliers (Hank Aaron), Batting Average with RISP is in general slightly higher than Batting Average, and slightly lower when counting Sacrifice Flies as outs.

    That tells me that this season’s historical stats are fluky. Do you know if I can get the last 30 days BA w/RISP for the players? I can get BA w/RISP, or BA in the last 30 days, but not the combo, lol.

  54. TKinDC June 12th, 2008 at 10:19 am

    It is unbelievable to me the whining and moaning about the team after a loss.

    For those who prefer to deal with the reality of the situation rather than just vent their frustrations, I would point out that we are 5 games out of the wildcard.

    5 games.

    We don’t need to go on an epic run, we don’t need to make a big move, we don’t need to fire the hitting coach, we don’t need to do anything except catch up 5 games on a team that finished dead f’ing last in 2007

    How can ever accomplish that monumental task? We are SOOOO bad. We lost last night.

    Get a grip.

  55. murphydog June 12th, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Turn Two:

    Reverse psychology. OK. But they shouldn’t cut off the nose to spite the face. I’m not sure which vet they’d be willing to lose and still be able to get value for him. Giambi continues to be infuriating. He giveth and taketh away. But nobody wants him bad enough to give up anything good. Damon is useful now and is more likely to may remain so IMO. Who can you move? Matsui? He’s hitting a blue streak but the knees are bad. An AL team needing a DH would likely take a long look. But he’s one of the few guys producing.

    When vets get traded young players can say that it’s because the vet was aging and the team got something for them while they still had value. That won’t scare the kids straight IMO; they think they are invincible. Moving Cano says the Yankees are not set in concrete and that player performance after a big investment by the team is important. That sets the tone for every new kid coming up in the organization and there will be a lot of them in the next two years.

  56. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Thanks keith – that was enlightening.

    Anyway, sj44 speaks the truth again. This team is floundering. It reminds me of the Redskins a few years back when they signed all these aged past-their-prime stars and basically ended up in the gutter. I really don’t see these guys playing with any guts and it’s frustrating.

  57. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 10:20 am

    Sorry but there is no such thing as clutch.

    If the team is up amongst the league leaders in total batting average then it makes sense that eventually some of those hits will start falling in with RISP.

    When you deal with averages everthing tends to even out over the course of a long season.

  58. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 10:21 am

    yes ray – because whether were .500 or below .500, this team doesn’t make the playoffs. Not that hard to grasp.

  59. murphydog June 12th, 2008 at 10:22 am

    TKinDC:

    I’m not trying to be antagonistic, but we’ve been whining and moaning for a while now about this team, not just after losses. I mean, heck, you’re already talking Wild Card on June 12th. And the team is 5 games back in that race too.

  60. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 10:23 am

    “It is unbelievable to me the whining and moaning about the team after a loss.

    For those who prefer to deal with the reality of the situation rather than just vent their frustrations, I would point out that we are 5 games out of the wildcard.

    5 games.

    We don’t need to go on an epic run, we don’t need to make a big move, we don’t need to fire the hitting coach, we don’t need to do anything except catch up 5 games on a team that finished dead f’ing last in 2007

    How can ever accomplish that monumental task? We are SOOOO bad. We lost last night.

    Get a grip.”

    I agree with everything in this post.

  61. TurnTwo June 12th, 2008 at 10:25 am

    “That sets the tone for every new kid coming up in the organization and there will be a lot of them in the next two years.”

    fair point, but then you’re bringing up the discussion of this year’s team vs the future teams of 2009, 2010, and beyond.

    if you’re dedicated to rebuilding the core from within, then this makes a lot of sense… think about how many interviews you read/see with young pitchers and players below who say they see that players are being promoted if they perform and earn it… they are paying attention, so what you’re saying should reverberate thru the organization, in theory.

  62. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 10:25 am

    If you tell me that a player’s batting average is .400 with RISP then this only begs the question to me, Why is his batting average not .400 ALL THE TIME?

    It’s because it’s a fluky stat that’s why.

  63. V June 12th, 2008 at 10:25 am

    “I agree with everything in this post.”

    Ditto.

  64. TKinDC June 12th, 2008 at 10:26 am

    Welcome to the sunny side of the street ray!

    (not to confused with our esteemed colleague – sunny615, who apparently did not have the happy pill this morning)

    we tease because we love!

    :)

  65. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 10:26 am

    “yes ray – because whether were .500 or below .500, this team doesn’t make the playoffs. Not that hard to grasp.”

    Yes, but right now if they had lost 4 more games they’d be 9 games out of a playoff spot. Isn’t that much different than being 5 games out?

  66. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 10:28 am

    I did take my happy pill, but I had to wash it down with the sour taste of the .500 Yankee club drink. :-(
    ;-)

  67. SJ44 June 12th, 2008 at 10:29 am

    Jason Giambi won’t be on this team next year. Its not going to happen.

    I don’t care how many home runs he hits, he’s not coming back.

    There is no place for him next year. They have to get a real first baseman and Hideki Matsui is the DH.

    The Yankees are going to in a different direction. As they should.

    Watch him play first base and tell me why he should be back? Contrary to the popular belief of some, his offense doesn’t make up for his defense.

    Even with this recent hot streak, he’s still near or under .200 with RISP.

    He’s also going to be 38 next year.

    They aren’t going to get older to fix the team. They are going to get younger.

    Murph,

    Agreed. At some point, your debt becomes due. The backloading of contracts. The limited ability of older players. The belief that some can recapture the past. The inconsistencies of some of the younger veterans.

    Its like a perfect storm of problems hitting the Yankees this year.

    When that happens, you have to get smarter, not dumber, when it comes to player moves.

    One thing the Yankees can’t do this year, IMO. They can’t just assume some of the younger players will be “ok” next season.

    Call up Melancon and Robertson at some point during the year and find out what they are about. Like with Veras and Ramirez, if they show potential, it factors into how you remake the team.

    Same can be said for Brett Gardner at some point. Montero and AJax aren’t ready for the majors. Not even close. Nor is Aceves.

    Some of the veterans? I know this much, if Johnny Damon is not in the Yankees plans for next season, there is no way you don’t trade him this year. Same can be said for Abreu and any other player they believe is not part of the solutions for next season. That’s how good baseball organizations are run. Internally, they plan ahead, and are honest with themselves about their teams.

    Just look at what Billy Beane has done in his career and how he remakes teams. It can be done.

    Damon’s trade value is higher now than its been since he has been a Yankee.

    If they don’t want him next year, look for the best possible deal at the deadline and pull the trigger.

    If he factors into the plans for next year? You don’t do it.

    I just hope they don’t fall into the fallacy that this team is a “couple of moves” away from being a championship team.

    Sorry, and it may violate all cheerleader rules as a fan but, its not.

  68. FrankDiscussion June 12th, 2008 at 10:29 am

    I like TKinDC’s post, 5 games out isn’t some sort of insurmountable obstacle. I’ll agree that this team does have some serious issues, and I’d like to see some changes made, but the core that put up those offensive numbers last year is still present, albeit a year older. Too early to write them off, IMO. I’m far more concerned with pitching then I am with offensive capabilities. Interested in seeing how Pettitte performs tonight.

  69. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 10:30 am

    true ray, but only if it means this club has shown the ability to go on winning streaks greater than 3 or 4 games.

    which it hasn’t yet. Believe me, I hope it does and proves me wrong. I’d happily eat crow on this one, but this team constantly wears mediocrity like a badge of honor.

  70. Patrick (the good one) June 12th, 2008 at 10:31 am

    “I agree with everything in this post.”

    Seconded.

    There is no reason to panic right now. The Yanks are 13-8 in their last 21 games. Obviously its not spectacular but slowly but surely they are getting better. The offense has been better since A-rod and Posada returned. The pitching isn’t that bad. If Wang gets back in a groove and Pettitte bounces back from his slump this team will go on a nice roll.

  71. Doreen June 12th, 2008 at 10:34 am

    Reading sunny615′s posts this morning brought to mind a song: “When Sunny Gets Blue.”

    It is difficult to stay in a sunny disposition after another disheartening loss. This is a frustrating team, no doubt. But if they win tonight, they take the series 2 of 3. And since on any given day, you don’t know which team will show up, so I don’t see any reason why as a fan I shouldn’t hope for the best.

    I’m not delusional. I see that this team has a lot of problems and “consistent inconsistencies.”

  72. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 10:36 am

    Oakland had a team-wide approach and it was to sit on his fastball away and hammer it. Rasner never really established his four-seamer inside.

    Good job by Oakland that just means Rasner has to pitch inside and he’ll be fine.

    Oh Yeh relax w/ the prospect rush. Brett Gardner, David Robertson those I get. Alfredo has 3 starts and he is not at the top of the ladder. Ajack will be in AA all year, they are not going to rush him like Melky in 2005, if anything when Gardner is promoted he gets sent up to AAA where he will finish the year. If you see Ajack in the Bronx it will be in the Futures game or the season closing games w/ the Yankees not in the playoffs (lets hope that doesn’t happen).

    RISP, this team needs to score and I got a feeling if there will be trades it won’t be the prospects, this time it will be the vets.

  73. SJ44 June 12th, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Ray,

    Correct, things may even out in the long run.

    However, don’t you place a value as to when one hits or plays well?

    If one accumulates stats when a season or games have been decided, even though the year end stats may look good, isn’t that a factor when determining player value?

    I know it is during arbitration hearings. I’ve had arbitration cases early in my career that broke down player performance in game changing situations, despite the fact a players overall numbers were impressive.

    Conversely, I’ve had cases where a players overall numbers, while not impressive on the surface, looked better under closer examination when we broke down WHEN a player accumulated their numbers.

    The Yankees used a similar formula in Wang’s arbitration case this year and won the case.

    Saber freaks may not believe in the word “clutch”. However, you can do enough research these days to breakdown player performances to the most minute detail.

    Its why one can’t just quote overall stats without context, IMO.

    If anybody has watched the Yankees all season, its clear hitting with RISP is a major weakness of the team. Regardless of where the team falls in various offensive catagories, hitting with RISP and walking less, have been real albatrosses to the offense this season.

    Could it turn around? Perhaps. However, if it turns around too late in a season, while the final overall numbers of a team or individual may be impressive, the overall result (team performance) is not.

    They are a .500 team for a reason this year and its not injuries. Its for the inconsistencies many of us have cited after losses AND wins.

  74. Patrick (the good one) June 12th, 2008 at 10:39 am

    “Contrary to the popular belief of some, his offense doesn’t make up for his defense.”

    Actually his offense does make up for his defense. This year he has 5 total win shares. That stat is a measure of how much he has contributed to wins. His batting is like 5.2 win shares and his fielding contributed 0.3. His fielding is bad but his batting does outweigh it. CB probably has better stats to show this but I’m confident his batting does in fact outweigh his fielding.

    I do agree though, there is no way Giambi will be back with the Yanks next year.

  75. murphydog June 12th, 2008 at 10:41 am

    SJ:

    It’s a guarantee that Cashman is up to things most of the fanbase know nothing about and, IMO, the Yankee front office is more likely than any other time since the early 90s to be having midterm reassessment conversations that do not require a 180 degree turn from this “rebuilding” process. Frankly, it would be encouraging to see them clear out the vets not expected to be with the team in ’09, get some good stuff in return and play some kids.

    Gotta give up on aura and mystique and get down to business. The ’98 Yankees were 10 years ago and at least 6-8 of those 10 years have not been spent well from an executive perspective. This team needs more than a few tweaks to make up for the mistakes and neglect and to get back to balanced and competitive.

  76. bigjf June 12th, 2008 at 10:44 am

    I’m amazed how many times I’ve heard people wanting to trade Cano. Unless we send him to the Dodgers for Loney, Kemp, and Kershaw or to the Pads for Peavy, Chris Young and Adrian Gonzalez, I don’t see Cano getting traded. We all know what this guy is capable of doing. It’s on the Yanks (Kevin Long especially) to get him going right.

  77. Joan June 12th, 2008 at 10:45 am

    I’m as dissappointed with this season as many are. What I find alarming is that there isn’t any one thing we can point to and say fix it and it’s all good. Is it mechanics with the pitching staff as well as the hitters? People mention from time to time that this is an “old team” steeped in tradition. I wonder what happens to that team when you change out the coaches and manager? Is it an issue of they just don’t click? And add to the mix the pressure of a winning season for the final year of this stadium. Maybe all combined,who knows. It sure isn’t a fun team to watch right now.

  78. SJ44 June 12th, 2008 at 10:46 am

    If the Yankees want to go back to their championship style of play, they can’t ignore defense any longer.

    Four of the five pitchers in the rotation pitch to contact. If you can’t play defense, it defeats the purpose of rebuilding your pitching staff.

    Defense has been ignored for 7 years. I know that’s going to change because Cashman has said so himself.

    Its why many with the Yankees can’t wait to get the contracts off the books that are coming off following the season.

    Regardless of who the GM ends up being (Cashman or somebody else), I can’t see anybody remaking the same in the same vein it is today.

  79. murphydog June 12th, 2008 at 10:50 am

    “The Yanks are 13-8 in their last 21 games. Obviously its not spectacular but slowly but surely they are getting better.”

    The Yanks had an unspectacular May, losing 3 to Tampa Bay, 2 to Detroit, 2 to the Mets and 3 to Baltimore. Then they started June by losing 6 of 11. At home this team is terrible and their road record is nothing to brag about. It is a .500 team. I’m sorry, but there is no way around that. They are not getting better, IMO, they are treading water.

  80. SJ44 June 12th, 2008 at 10:51 am

    Its not up to Kevin Long to get Cano going. Its up to Cano to get Cano going.

    Some of you overvalue what a manager or coach can do in baseball.

    Its a players driven sport. Unlike football, there aren’t new schemes you can put in each week to put your players in the best position to win.

    In baseball, its up to the players to perform.

    Do you think Kevin Long is not working with Cano? Cano can’t take the teachings out to the game. At least not yet.

    He’s not some neophyte. He’s in his 4th season. Its up to him to work it out. If he can’t, then you evaluate whether or not he is a long term solution to your team.

    Sure, the hitting coach will continue to work with him but, getting it done on up to the player. Not the coach.

  81. Patrick (the good one) June 12th, 2008 at 10:55 am

    “If the Yankees want to go back to their championship style of play, they can’t ignore defense any longer.

    Its why many with the Yankees can’t wait to get the contracts off the books that are coming off following the season.”

    Absolutely! Giambi, Farnsworth, Pavano, Mussina, Pettitte, Hawkins, Abreu are all off the books. That is a massive amount of money but it does leave some holes. First base, right field, 2 starting pitchers. Its exciting and there are tons of possibilities open to the Yanks.

    Cano is a good defender, Jeter is average, A-rod is average, Abreu is slightly above average, Melky is very good, Damon in left has good range but bad arm. And of course Giambi is awful. So overall I’d say the team is right around average defensively.

    Next year I could see defensive upgrades in the outfield (Brett Gardner anyone?) and at first. Cano, A-rod and Jeter are pretty much locked in, if I had to guess Damon will still be here too.

  82. murphydog June 12th, 2008 at 10:55 am

    “We all know what this guy is capable of doing. It’s on the Yanks (Kevin Long especially) to get him going right.”

    No, with all due respect, it’s on Cano to get going. IMO, blaming Long is ignoring the problem. Coaches coach, they don’t swing the bat in the game. The Steins can fire Long if they want, but I doubt that it will help Cano stop swinging at bad pitches.

    And as for what Cano is capable of, well, he’s obviously capable of three month slumps along with everything else. A player eval has to include the good and the bad.

  83. V June 12th, 2008 at 10:56 am

    SJ44, your arbitration info, and deriding of ‘saber freaks’ is exactly what I think is wrong in the baseball pay scale.

    Breaking down what a player did in ‘game changing situations’ is all well in good, if the idea of arbitration is to reward what a player did last year.

    However, in general, people get paid for what they are expected to do next year. And there is no evidence to suggest that what a player does in ‘game changing situations’ compared to his overall numbers is a replicable feat.

  84. bigjf June 12th, 2008 at 10:59 am

    SJ44,

    I’m not completely buying your point. I know these players aren’t dummies, but they can’t always see if something is mechanically wrong or if the approach is bad at the plate. Coaches have ways of working on all that. From studying videos and taking extra BP and exercises in hopes of making adjustments.

    I’m sure Long is working with Cano, and he’s improved from the interstate, though he needs to get much better. I’m not looking to fire the hitting coach, nor should you be looking to evaluate the player. He is a 2nd baseman capable of winning a batting title. You aren’t going to find too many of those. Do the Yanks have yet another one ready in the minor league level where they can pull off Soriano for A-Rod Part Deux? When all was said and done last year, this guy looked like he could be the future 3 hitter in the lineup. I’m not ready to think he’s got Andruw Jones Syndrome just yet.

  85. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:02 am

    I still can’t believe Cashman didn’t pick up Erick Threets. They got a struggling pitcher like Veras off waivers and look at him now, he’s being put to use. In Erick Threets you have a fireballing lefty, who has some mechanics issue, why would Cashman not pick him off waivers ?, he was set to exit SF and probably takes the minor league assignment and our guys in A ball and AA can fix player’s mechanics, well not Igawa’s but you get the point. I seriously think Cash slept on this one.

    LHP velocity in MLB is very rare, he sits 93.7 MPH, he tops out at 98. Why does Cashman, the hell w/ everyone else in baseball how did he alllow that guy to clear waivers w/ that type of upside. He is not in a position to turn down high ceiling talent risk, you pick it up however you can. This screams a sleep job. Erick Threets would have been a freebie pick up and if he pans out a steal. If not you you DFA or trade him as a piece in the future. That situation just screamed sleep job to me. You get talent any cost efficient way you can, last night was one and our famous Yankees FO fell asleep.

  86. bigjf June 12th, 2008 at 11:03 am

    The point, murphydog, is while Cano is also capable of these multiple month slumps, he’s still young enough to make the adjustments to change that so that he doesn’t replicate it for the next 10 years. I want to think he can pull that off, rather than continue on as a “streaky” hitter. And when I say it’s on Kevin Long to help him find that, I don’t mean his job is on the line. But that is partly his responsibility. That’s why he’s there.

  87. Super Furious Punch June 12th, 2008 at 11:04 am

    Why did you find the need to so petty towards people that disagree with you? Why did you question the integrity of the n0m@@s draft blog? Was that the Red Sox fan in you, or just you being the usual pansy that you are?

  88. Patrick (the good one) June 12th, 2008 at 11:04 am

    “That situation just screamed sleep job to me. You get talent any cost efficient way you can, last night was one and our famous Yankees FO fell asleep.”

    Is it possible that rather then sleeping the Yankees just don’t agree with your assessment of Threets? It seems like you are the only one that wanted to pick him up.

  89. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 11:06 am

    SJ,

    I’m not a saber freak I just don’t believe in a player’s clutchiness factor.

    Does anyone here think that Derek Jeter is a having a good year this year so far? I don’t he’s batting .276 overall .316 with RISP.

    Does anyone think A-Rod is having a bad year? I don’t, and yet he’s only batting .220 with RISP. However he’s only had 50 official AB’s with RISP. Since he’s batting .314 overall this tells me that when given more opportunities with RISP his average will go up. The law of averages says it has to go up.

    Right now the Yankees may be near last with RISP but if their overall team average stays near the top then eventually their RISP averages will move up.

    Teams may use certain stats against a player when determining their worth but it doesn’t mean they’re correct in doing so.

  90. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:08 am

    Patrick he was a freebie last night, what’s the risk in purchasing his service ala Jose Veras and Edwar Ramirez and fixing his mechanics. He slept. IDK how a LHP w/ that arsenal cleared waivers but the other teams in the MLB shouldn’t dictate how NYY get talent. Whatever it means nothing now.

  91. TurnTwo June 12th, 2008 at 11:11 am

    “I still can’t believe Cashman didn’t pick up Erick Threets.”

    well, being as though he’s still available, there were many other GMs who passed, too. perhaps he’s just not as good as you’re hoping?

    i understand taking on a project, and taking a chance… but just because he’s got velocity as a LHP doesnt mean he can be good if you work with him… dont you think others have already tried this, knowing how rare a commodity he technically is?

  92. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:11 am

    16 yr. old Michel Inoa prepares for pro career

    The 2008 sign-off edition features Dominican pitcher Michael Inoa, the crown jewel among the pool of 16-year-old players, any of who may sign with any major league club that meets his desires.

    Inoa (6-foot-7, 210 pounds) is a right-handed hurler with a three-pitch repertoire consisting of a fastball (93 mph), changeup and curve.

    “His most attractive asset is the fact that he has a lot of control for such a tall guy, and he knows what to do once he gets on the mound,” said Ezequiel Sepulveda, a scout for the L.A. Dodgers in the Dominican Republic. “Inoa is every scout’s dream. He has it all.”

    Get ready kid we’re not letting you slip.

  93. BigV June 12th, 2008 at 11:12 am

    CRITICALLY IMPORTANT……….

    Rasner: People forget this guy is really like a rookie. He has limited experience. But he definitely has major league stuff and can pitch. I’d love to see him get a “full year” in the 5th slot – not a month not if he is hot. He is still earning how to get out of that one tough inning or two. But he is seriously better or as good than most 5th starters the Yankees have ever had or presently on other teams in the Majors – that needs to be understood. forget Karstens – he is too inconsistent and gets hurts easily.

    Yankees: They are an overrated over aged team. THey play with too much pressure on their heads (because of Salaries)
    and not enough consistently. Time to break then up while they have value.

    TRade 1: TRade Damon while he has value and is playing well.

    Trade 2: TRade Matsui: THis will be the best time to trade him while he is hot – he might get hurt again and have nothing to show.

    Trade 3: TRade Farnsworth or release him.

    TRade 4: Betemeit if you can get anything for him.

    Next Steps:

    1) Bring up Gardner to replace Damon.
    2) Play Shelley Duncan at the full time DH and first.Lets see if he is a flash in the pan, inconsistent or a player that needs to play in order to get going. He is not as bad as he is showing now – he is pressing mightily. If he fails after 2 months bring up Lane.
    3) Bring up Robertson for the bullpen to replace Farnsworth.
    4) Bring up J B Cox as well.

    Step II

    1) Bring up Alan Horne and Mark Melancon later in the year to see wha they can do. Horne could be our 5th starter next year.

    Keepers:

    1) Keep Giambi even though he has value with an expiring contract – we need hitting.
    2) Keep Mussina – ditto
    3) Pettite – let him retire as a Yankee.

    Sorry folks but they better do this now before it steams rolls into the Knicks. This team needs to rebuild for a year they are not in the “reloading: process.

  94. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 11:12 am

    “LHP velocity in MLB is very rare, he sits 93.7 MPH, he tops out at 98. Why does Cashman, the hell w/ everyone else in baseball how did he alllow that guy to clear waivers w/ that type of upside. He is not in a position to turn down high ceiling talent risk, you pick it up however you can.”

    Do you understand that Threets would have had to be placed on the ML roster? Do you honestly believe that the Yankees can afford to have a non-strike throwing pitcher on the team at this moment trying to work out his kinks?

  95. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 11:13 am

    If the Giants (of all teams) were willing to lose Threets via DFA, and the Yankee scouts obviously have notes on him and passed, why would Cash consider him a worthwhile reclamation project? – Just curious here.

  96. SJ44 June 12th, 2008 at 11:13 am

    Brandon,

    Every team in baseball passing on him because he’s not any good! lol

    Throwing hard doesn’t mean much if you can’t throw strikes.

    Think about it. Finding a LH relief pitcher is on almost every teams wishlist in baseball. Yet, EVERY ML team passed on him.

    What does that tell you? It tells you the belief in the baseball community is he’s not a guy worth acquiring.

    V,

    I don’t disagree with your premise. Its why I don’t get caught up with stats. Unless of course, a client is paying me to do so! lol

    Seriously, I tend to use stats to either backup what I see with my eyes or to see if my eyes are in dispute with what I see from players and/or teams.

    I think the danger is to go too much in either direction. Stats or just trusting your eyes.

    I think stats and sabermetrics in general have a very useful purpose in the game. I think relying on them too heavily can sometimes lead one to get false reads on a player and/or team.

  97. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:15 am

    well, being as though he’s still available, there were many other GMs who passed, too. perhaps he’s just not as good as you’re hoping?

    I don’t care what other GMs do, this is not about him being put on the 40 man, a minor league assignment, let Nardi or Gil Patterson or Rafael Chaves take a shot w/ him. They didn’t think outside the box. It’s a total sleep job. You pick up Billy Traber and Heath Philips but can’t take a chance on a minor league tryout bases w/ a potential high ceiling fireballing lefty ? That screams sleep job.

  98. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:17 am

    Oh BTW Cashman do me a favor don’t sleep on Inoa he actually wants NY !

  99. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 11:17 am

    “You pick up Billy Traber and Heath Philips but can’t take a chance on a minor league tryout bases w/ a potential high ceiling fireballing lefty ? That screams sleep job.”

    Brandon,

    He would have had to be placed on the MAJOR league team if he was picked up. Don’t you think if he could have been put in the minors someone would have picked him up?

  100. TurnTwo June 12th, 2008 at 11:18 am

    “They didn’t think outside the box.”

    perhaps they did, and still just think he’s not worth it.

  101. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:20 am

    Brandon,

    He would have had to be placed on the MAJOR league team if he was picked up. Don’t you think if he could have been put in the minors someone would have picked him up?

    No he wouldn’t have. If he’s picked off waivers it means his team released his rights, the Yankees if they were to offer a minor league assignment he’d have to take it.

  102. dennnis-costanza(Sox fan) June 12th, 2008 at 11:20 am

    SJ44.

    Can you give a player example where the numbers overstate the players ability/performance and then a player example where the numbers do not tell the whole story?

    -dennis

  103. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 11:23 am

    “No he wouldn’t have. If he’s picked off waivers it means his team released his rights, the Yankees if they were to offer a minor league assignment he’d have to take it.”

    So if this were true, and still, every single team passed on taking him on, shouldn’t that tell you his lack of value?

  104. Patrick (the good one) June 12th, 2008 at 11:25 am

    No he wouldn’t have. If he’s picked off waivers it means his team released his rights, the Yankees if they were to offer a minor league assignment he’d have to take it.

    Are you sure? Threets doesn’t have any options left. If what you say is true then you are right its pretty absurd that they didn’t pick him up. He’s only 26 or 27 and he has strikeout stuff from the left side. Big problem with walks though.

  105. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:26 am

    So if this were true, and still, every single team passed on taking him on, shouldn’t that tell you his lack of value?

    It tells me alot of teams don’t think out of the box. Like I said where do you think Edwar Ramirez or Jose Veras came from ? Getting cheap resources and tuning them in your minors especially in this case wouldn’t have been a bad thing. If he fails you release him, not a big deal.

  106. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    Are you sure? Threets doesn’t have any options left.
    Do you want a link that stats he had no options left ?

    If what you say is true then you are right its pretty absurd that they didn’t pick him up. He’s only 26 or 27 and he has strikeout stuff from the left side. Big problem with walks though.

    That’s why I’ve been pissed the last 24 hrs. they are in no position to reject cheap talent w/ possible high upside.

  107. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    states *

  108. pat June 12th, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Brandon

    Maybe Threets is holding out for a major league deal before he agrees to accept a minor league one.

    BTW, I believe Gil Paterson is no longer with the Yankees.

  109. CB June 12th, 2008 at 11:32 am

    This team is just hovering at mediocrity. Same thing all season.

    But they’re very fortunate that no one is running away with the division or the wild card.

    For that reason its still very early and they can change the way things going. But that’s not just going to happen by magic. They need to qualitatively change the way they are playing.

    Regardless of whether you believe in the notion of a player being “clutch” the empirical fact is that to date the reason why they’ve scored so few runs is directly related to how they’ve not hit with RISP.

    That’s just empirically true. That’s what’s happening on the field. Don’t mix up what has happenned with projecting the future. That’s the data so far. Can’t change what’s happened.

    I personally do think that their hitting with RISP will improve. But there’s no doubt that it has been abysmal this year. That’s a big factor in negating their team OPS, OBP, and slugging percentage.

    A lot of that has been the absence of posada and ARod. They just haven’t gotten enough at bats with RISP this year because they’ve missed so many games to injuries. The guys who have filled in just didn’t drive in runs.

    But while their RISP will likely improve there are definite areas to be concerned about.

    One is Giambi. He hits 5th or 6th. He comes up often with RISP and men on base. I’m not sure how high you can expect his BA with RISP to go because he doesn’t seem to change his approach in those situations.

    He still insists on hitting into the shift with RISP. They pitch him to the outside part of the plate knowing he won’t go the other way.

    Giambi and Abreu aren’t great RBI guys. And I don’t want to hear that RBI’s are meaningless because they’re a team stat not an individual stat, they depend on guys getting on base, etc, etc. I’m not discussing how “good” those two are. I’m discussing them in the context of the offense.

    While you’re trying to win games team stats matter. The yankees have an RBI problem.

    Giambi not only doesn’t hasn’t hit for a high BA with RISP, he’s also a pass the baton guy up at the plate. He draws a lot of walks – and that’s good. But it puts more pressure on the guys behind you to knock in runs. It just does. Sure you haven’t made an out, but you have made it more likely that Robinson Cano will have to drive the run in. And that’s just not happening. A similar issue applies to Abreu.

    And who knows what’s going on with Cano. He’s in his own world of terrible. I believe he will turn his season around – his BABIP is .236 among other things – but he’s been so far one of the worst regulars in baseball.

    It’s early. They have time to play better. But they need to start hitting consistently to do it.

    Right now they largely score runs when they hit home runs. Its a feast or famine offense. That’s not going to win games consistently.

  110. shaman1993 June 12th, 2008 at 11:34 am

    It’s time to sit Cano, or bring back Bowa. Now, since Bowa is successfully emplyed elsewhere I think it’s going to have to be the former and not the latter. How long can Girardi allow Cano to screw up his offense? Cano, in 65 games, has come to the plate 246 times, batting .224, with 55 hits, 13 doubles, no triples, 4 HR’s, and 20 RBI’s. He has struck out 23 times and worked 12 walks and grounded into SEVEN DP’s…It’s time for him to gather some splinters in his backside and bring Gonzalez back up. He can not do much worse…

  111. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Brandon,

    I’m pretty sure he would have had to be put on the major league roster. He was not waived, he was designated for assignment. If a player is DFA’d the player can be traded, the player can be released, or the player can be put on waivers and, provided he clears, outrighted to the minors.

    In order for the Yankees to get him they would have had to trade for him. Being that he was out of options they would have had to put him on the major league roster. Only his current team could outright him to the minors provided he cleared waivers.

    Jose Veras and Edwar Ramirez were both free agents which is why they were able to be put in the minors.

  112. pat June 12th, 2008 at 11:37 am

    ray

    Can’t he refuse assignment to the minors and declare himself a free agent?

  113. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 11:42 am

    Pat,

    As far as I know a team has to grant the player free agency. If after the DFA period that had outright released Threets then the Yankees could have signed him and put him in the minors.

    I believe the Yankees were able to sign Broussard(?) because of he was DFA’d whatever team he was on released him.

    CB,

    I understand they haven’t hit with RISP, what I’m saying is that when a player is hitting .300 eventually his RISP numbers will approach .300 because batting average entails every area of hitting, not just RISP.

    I believe eventually A-Rod’s and Giambi’s RISP numbers will approach their total batting average numbers.

  114. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    In order for the Yankees to get him they would have had to trade for him. Being that he was out of options they would have had to put him on the major league roster. Only his current team could outright him to the minors provided he cleared waivers.

    No they wouldn’t because a DFA releases his rights, just look at Andy Philips king of Bloop as an example.

  115. CB June 12th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    ray,

    I completely agree with you on ARod. Giambi won’t hit .160 with RISP the whole season. But even if he hits his BA its an issue. You’d like guys to hit over their BA as the pitcher just has to limit the way he pitches. Giamib’s never been good with RISP. If he hits his BA – around .250 that’s still not very good. It’s an issue for a 5th hole hitter.

  116. V June 12th, 2008 at 11:53 am

    “I understand they haven’t hit with RISP, what I’m saying is that when a player is hitting .300 eventually his RISP numbers will approach .300 because batting average entails every area of hitting, not just RISP.”

    Actually, this isn’t entirely true.

    Everything else the same, a ‘.300 hitter’ should be expected to hit ~.300 for the rest of the season, in or out of RISP situations.

    Now, if he hits .200 for 300 at bats, you don’t expect him to go .300 for the whole season, but .300 the rest of the way.

    (of course, batting average is not a great predictive statistic – OPS is much better).

  117. stuart June 12th, 2008 at 11:54 am

    why would moves such as call up melancon and trade or dfa hawkins, callu p garnder send down/dfa moeller and ad the AG to the roster retard these guys long term growth?

    again try it for 3 weeks and then you can always send them down if they are not getting enough action.

    the yanks are going to the NL with a bench of slow, slower , and slowest…..

  118. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    Brandon,

    A DFA does not release a player’s rights. If the Yankees wanted Threets within that 10 day window they would have had to trade for him.

    Pat, a player can refuse the assignment to the minors and become a free agent. Apparently Erick Threets chose to remain with SF.

  119. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 11:58 am

    ray here’s a few snips

    The Giants designated left-hander Erick Threets for assignment after he completed a minor-league rehab assignment, which means they could lose the 26-year-old Livermore native on waivers.

    The Giants here basically told him so long. If the Yankees would have offered him a minor league contract he would have taken it.

  120. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Pat, a player can refuse the assignment to the minors and become a free agent. Apparently Erick Threets chose to remain with SF.

    players w/ 5 yrs. of service I believe.

  121. Blargh June 12th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Brandon: If the Yankees claimed him off of waivers, then either they must trade for him, or assume the contract, place him on the ML roster, and pay a waiver fee.

  122. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 12:09 pm

    Blargh:

    They had 3 options

    1. Place him on waivers
    2. Trade him
    3. Release him

    If another team swoops in after the 10 day period and picks him off waivers and he accepts which Threets would have done. The Giants would pay his remaining salary while another team can place him in thier minor league affiliate.

  123. TurnTwo June 12th, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    is Eric Threets seriously worth all of this time and banter? seriously?

  124. JoeT 28 in 09!! June 12th, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    idk anything about this pitcher everyone keeps talking about but why would the Yankees want a guy that was DFAd by the Giants?

  125. Bill June 12th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    I have a question for Peter. Why did you go after nom@@s?

  126. Dead Horse June 12th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Stop beating me !

  127. Blargh June 12th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    Brandon: For the Giants to pay his remaining salary while another team signs him to a minimum minor league contract, he’d had to have been released first.

    If after 3 days and nobody has made a waiver claim, then he’ll head to the minors, be traded normally, or get released anyway.

  128. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    idk anything about this pitcher everyone keeps talking about but why would the Yankees want a guy that was DFAd by the Giants?

    he’s raw in mechanics, sits 93 mph, tops out at 98 mph and is a LHP. Does thst do it for you ?

  129. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Blargh: and if that other team claims him they (that team) would pay a $1 fee to claim his rights. At that point the Giants have to release him.

  130. Here's Johnny June 12th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    So everyone wants a bum that was released by the pathetic SF Giants… great he must be the answer

  131. Blargh June 12th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Brandon: If he got claimed, then the Giants would be free of his contract too, as the other team would have to take it on.

  132. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    Blargh, correct the $390 K would have been property of the Yankees. The only thing I’m not sure about is if he would have had to have been placed on the 25 retroactive roster or would they have the right to place him in the minors w/ his release.

    Usually what happens here is the Yankees get him DFA him and then when no team picks him up they can shuttle him between the minors and majors w/out it effecting the 40 man roster.

  133. Blargh June 12th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    He would have to go on the active 25

  134. TurnTwo June 12th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    holy moly, someone wake me up when we stop blabbering about Eric Threets.

  135. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    Back to matters

    Yorman Rodriguez

    Comment: Many scouts compare Rodriguez with his countryman Miguel Cabrera. Like the Detroit star, Rodriguez is not fleet-footed, but his bat is extremely powerful and fast. His agent stopped showing him around awhile ago, which presumably indicates that he already has an oral agreement with a club.

    Oh let that also be us, Inoa and Rodriguez would be major acquisitions in this amateur draft

  136. randyhater June 12th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    I guarantee Pavano pitches again this year. A couple of Sept. starts to “prove” he’s healthy will go a long way towards lining up next year’s sucker.

    What’s worse, his agent will argue that he’s actually a good health risk because he’s had so little wear and tear on his arm and some dope will give him 2 years, 8 figures.

    The only way it doesn’t happen is if the Yanks refuse to recall him out of spite.

  137. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Well I guess no one wants to discuss the Latin Amateur Draft..I’ll be back later

  138. Joe June 12th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    Brandon, this was on mlb.com on Threets…
    http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....Id=rss_mlb

    “Since Threets was out of Minor League options, the Giants had to place him on waivers before trying to send him to Fresno once he completed his injury rehabilitation assignment. Any team claiming him would have had to keep him in the Majors, perhaps explaining why nobody picked him up.”

  139. raymagnetic ®™ June 12th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    Randyhater,

    I’d be shocked if Pavano ever pitches for the Yankees again.

  140. Stephen June 12th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Good Austin Jackson piece in the Observer:

    http://www.observer.com/2008/y.....-big-thing

  141. keith June 12th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    There is no “draft” from Latin America.

  142. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    Keith it’s the signing period ok. Joe thanks that makes sense.

  143. jennifer June 12th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Lest we forget that Rasner was a cast off, off the lowly Nats.

    randyhater
    2 years, some team will give him 3-4 years.

  144. jennifer June 12th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    I hope the Yankees aren’t in the position to need a vet. And if we are out of it I’d rather see kids from the minors pitching. Not some bum who would be pitching for a contract next year.

    If for some reason he does pitch I hope Joe pitches him for 140 innings a game :)

  145. Patrick (the good one) June 12th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    There is no “draft” from Latin America.

    Man oh man everyone is busting on Brandon today.

  146. jennifer June 12th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    That would be pitches. :)

  147. yankee lover June 12th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    trades. I know this is a bad word among some yankee fans but I have a few ideas.
    Duncan and Cano for Reyes. Put Reyes at 2nd and change of scenery would be good for both.
    Girardi for some reason does not like Duncan and Duncan can push Delgado out.

  148. Patrick (the good one) June 12th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    I fully expect Pavano to sign a 1 or 2 year contract for 1-3 million per year and throw 150+ innings next year with a 4 ERA or less.

  149. Aaron(a REAL Yankee fan) June 12th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Hey “Yankee Lover”

    Why don’t u kno baseball?? 85% of the people don’t know baseball, come on! use ure head, that would never never never work.. be honest

  150. Patrick (the good one) June 12th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    “Duncan and Cano for Reyes. Put Reyes at 2nd and change of scenery would be good for both.
    Girardi for some reason does not like Duncan and Duncan can push Delgado out.”

    Reyes is worth more than Cano and Duncan is worth nothing. Thats definitely a no-go for the Mets.

  151. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Man oh man everyone is busting on Brandon today.

    I’m big enough to admit when I’m wrong I’m not perfect at all.

  152. jennifer June 12th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    patrick

    there is no way he sigs a deal like that.

    He’ll get 4 years 8 million. Watch.

  153. Guiseppe Franco June 12th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    BTW, J.B. Cox is out of action for three weeks due to shoulder tendinitis.

    I’m thinking this could be the opening for Melancon to get promoted to Scranton.

    Obviously, Melancon needs more of a challenge right now because Double-A hitters are clearly not supplying it.

  154. jennifer June 12th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    Too bad, I thought he was close to getting called up.

  155. S.o.S.27 June 12th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Brandon,
    I have a solution to this threets situation. Lets dump our inconsistant flame thrower in Farns and sign a lefty flame thrower in Threets. If he bombs then we wouldnt have taken a step backwards. At least then we can focus on bringing up the minor league talent and not look to get a left hander in which in turn takes the spot of a minor leaguer who could be more valuable.

  156. Brandon (supporting "Alex being Alex") (J.Santana HR allowed count: 12 ) June 12th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    S.o.S.27 replace Farnsy w/ Hawkins and maybe that happens. I’m not in favor of giving that kid a ML roster spot but I get what you mean.

  157. Will June 12th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    “Obviously, Melancon needs more of a challenge right now because Double-A hitters are clearly not supplying it.”

    This gave me a laugh. When they fast tracked Joba last year didn’t he pitch the least amount for Scranton? Maybe Melancon will get a few innings in AAA then it will be up to the BX. I’m ready to see him.

  158. S.A.- No pain..no gain June 12th, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    Hola everyone.
    So we lost last night. Bummer
    Let’s hope we see good Andy today…haven’t seen him in a while. :(

    So there is something wrong with Cox? Darn

    When will we see the Robbie Cano that we used to know? I hope soon..

  159. S.o.S.27 June 12th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Two things i took from yesterdays game

    1.There are alot of fans on this blog that have no confidence in this team. They seem to think whenever this team falls behind. Doesnt matter what inning or by how much. That you can just put another notch in the lost column. I am a very emmotional fan. But what i dont understand is how can you continue to watch the game when
    a.in your mind its over
    b.you cant stand watching them play

    I dont like argueing about who is a bigger fan than the other. Everyone here thinks they are the best fans alive. Fair enough. But I never thought that we would have people thinking and talking like we are the royals or rays of the past. Like the saying goes. Look at the back of the baseball card and you will know what the end of the year will look like. Giambi turned it around. Damon as well. Matsui is doind more than expected. Rasner is doing his Small immitation. The all stars on this team will get going and with a few tweaks. We will once again play in october.

    2.What really killed me yesterday is watching how a decent first baseman plays the possition. The A’s first baseman actually knew how to throw to second to start a double play. I allmost forgot what that looked like. If Giambi stays next year. That should only be for the dh position. The few tweaks this year should include a competent first baseman.

  160. yankee lover to Aaron June 12th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    Yes. I know nothing. Heres some stats for you though. The last three years going into this season

    Cano Average Hits HRS Rbis

    297 155 19 62
    342 165 15 78
    306 189 19 97

    Reyes 273 190 7 58
    300 194 19 81
    280 191 12 57

    Looks like Cano has better numbers

  161. real deal June 12th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    And Cano did it in a much tougher league. good point

  162. Igawa's buck teeth (Where did you go Robby Cano?) June 12th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    When can Inoa sign with a team?

  163. G. Love June 12th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Here’s the glass half full take on the rest of the season.

    We still have not seen the best of Arod, Jeter, Posada, Cano and Abreu. If they play up or close to their career averages, this team will begin scoring runs in bunches.

    Same thing goes for Pettitte. It’s only up from here for him.

    That’s a lot of talent that can carry the team to a lot of wins the rest of the season when they get it going. Add Joba getting settled into the rotation and things can change for the better soon.

    That said, I hate thinking like this. I think there is a fundamental problem with this team. It’s almost like they’re playing to stay in contention for the wild card in their minds. They are not driven winners.

    I really want the future of this team to find guys who don’t have rings and desperately want them. To find guys who can be given a big salary, but that means nothing to them. Baseball is all they care about.

    Right now it seems that there’s a lot of guys walking around that clubhouse preening in the mirror that they are Yankees.

    Murph’s point about shaking up the team by jettisoning Cano was right.

    I think his attitude is not the attitude of a winner. I’ve never seen a player his age look and act more entitled than Cano. Cashman is an idiot for giving him that money. An absolute idiot.

    All you puppy dog fans who think it’s so cute that Cano and Melky dance and do funny handshakes together don’t realize that their chemistry as friends is not helping team chemistry and is holding them back development/maturity wise.

    One of them have to go.

    I’d love to see Cano get sent to a city with no Dominican bars for him to haunt. Let him wake up and realize he screwed up being given the keys to the kingdom here.

    All he had to do was play hard and focus on his career, but he’s a baby. In his FOURTH SEASON.

    You get that everyone? FOURTH SEASON?

    Stop talking about him like he’s some 21 year old phenom. He’s not.

    He’s a disappointment. The talent he has is wasted on a guy with his brain. He’s a preening stooge.

    Yes, does he make a nice play in the field some nights? Absolutely.

    He’s still one of the worst players in baseball RIGHT NOW and is not helping his team win at all.

    If there’s a market for him and we can get some serious talent back, that our talent “evaluators” believe have more of a desire to be a winner than Cano, then do it.

    Melky is what he is. A good defensive OF’er who doesn’t hit enough. Will that change? Maybe.

    But I think as long as Cano and Melky are on the same team, they will remain what they are.

    I think their relationship is what is keeping them immature as ball players and they hold each other back.

  164. sunny615 June 12th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    It does pay to compain -

    I just complained to my DirecTV and got $10 a month off for a year plus 3 months of free HBO, Showtime and Cinemax.

    ya man!!

  165. S.o.S.27 June 12th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    G.Love,
    Great post. I look at it as two kids in class sitting next to each other screwing around while the teacher is teaching a lesson. Those kids are not only not learning but they are being disruptive to the whole class. How does a teacher fix that problem? They move one kid to the back of the class and the other up front. If that doesnt work then you transfer a kid to another class.
    BTW I was one of those disruptive kids. So i know first hand.

    Sunny,
    Are you sure you werent suppose to get those channels free? Im not that impressed. You should have taken it a step further and got the P.BOY channell included.

  166. Yankee lover June 12th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Anytime Giambi makes a error its the focal point. Hes no Tino but thats not why they lost another game. Its the inconsistant pitching again. All those who thought Rasner was going to be Greg Maddox were wrong. Wang has been good not great, Petitte has been awful, Mussina very good, the two pheenoms a big 0. Rasner? hes 3-4 this year and 7-9 career wise. Hes not bad but hes no savior. The Yanks have 1 or 2 quality starters vs other teams in their division who have more. Couple that with a weak bullpen and it is what it is a 500 team

  167. Guiseppe Franco June 12th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    I wouldn’t trade Cano, but I would trade Melky.

    Cano really can’t be replaced and will be a star in this league once he matures a little more.

    Melky has already hit his ceiling because he’s a fourth outfielder who happens to start for this club.

    If it wasn’t for Melky’s arm, many Yankee fans wouldn’t be so in love with him.

  168. bag of balls June 12th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    Melky? wait….Wasn`t he one of the big reasons not to trade for Santana? Yanks didnt want to give him up? Do they still feel that way? With Santana its hard to predict but I bet the Yankees would be three to four games better. right now that makes a big difference

  169. S.o.S.27 June 12th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    Guiseppo Franco,
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