Update: Yankees claim Wang has sprain
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The Yankees did not reveal much about Chien-Ming Wang’s injured right foot.
“We’re saying it’s a sprained foot,” Joe Girardi said. The manager said the injury was to Wang’s foot, not his Achilles tendon or ankle. They would not say whether he had a fracture.
Wang was examined by Dr. John Duggan, a physician affiliated with the Astros. Wang is on his way back to New York and will have an MRI tomorrow.
Wang did not want to meet with the media. But as he left the clubhouse and was taken away on a golf cart, I managed to get two questions in:
Q: How does it feel?
A: “It hurts a lot.”
Q: Do you think it’s bad?
A: “Maybe. I’ll know tomorrow.”
With that, the cart took off.
UPDATE, 6:07 p.m.: Here is the statement the Yankees issued from Wang:
“I feel sore. The doctors say I have to go to get an MRI tomorrow.Of course I’m disappointed. And on Tuesday, when I know more, I will talk.”
Also, Girardi said he would “be shocked” if Wang makes his next start.
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Peter Abraham
Hope it’s not too serious but I’ll be elated if he (somehow) avoids the DL.
Also, did you guys see what happened to Yardier Molina?
Coming from Wanger himself, that definitely sounds bad.
lisfranc injury, out for the year
And we thought we had too many starting pitchers… Damnit…
Hurry back, Phil/Ian…
“…he left the clubhouse and was taken away on a golf cart”
I don’t think this is an ideal time for Wang to be going golfing.
“Also, did you guys see what happened to Yardier Molina?”
No, what happened to him?
“I don’t think this is an ideal time for Wang to be going golfing.”
He wants to try out some golfing tips he got from Bobby Meachem.
“And we thought we had too many starting pitchers…”
Repeat after me:
You can never have too much starting pitching.
SA: Involved in a collision at home in the Cardinals/Phillies game, runner was out but he was knocked cold, not moving and had to be carted off in a neck brace and on a stretcher.
“The game was marred by a potentially serious injury to Cardinals catcher Yadier Molina in the ninth. Molina was removed on a stretcher and wearing a neck brace after getting run over on a tag play in the top of the inning. Molina was taken to a hospital for evaluation of neck and back pain.”
http://scores.espn.go.com/mlb/recap?gameId=280615124
I can see Cashman picking up the phone..he probably has the Indians on speed dial.
A Lis Franc is a sprain of the middle-foot.
Wang’s injury, purportedly, is a sprain of the top of the foot.
Lifranc is a very uncommon injury for baseball players. Bruney’s was an anomalous injury attributable to a slick field and an awkward stride.
And if Wang hurt himself running the bases, the injury is likely to derive from the foot hinge, between the foot and the leg, not the middle of his foot.
I find it difficult to believe that Minute Maid doesn’t have an X-ray machine. It wouldn’t surprise me to learn they just don’t want to reveal the results, pending the MRI.
Whoever heard of a new ballpark without an X-Ray machine?
Peter,
Girardi stated more than once that he’s not going to speculate on the extent of the injury and that they have to wait until more test results are known.
So your headline about the Yankees “claiming” a sprain is a preliminary diagnosis until x-rays and MRI can be completed. There are no such facilities in Minute Maid ballpark.
I can see Cashman picking up the phone..he probably has the Indians on speed dial.
Highly doubt it.
“I can see Cashman picking up the phone..he probably has the Indians on speed dial.”
doubtful and doubtful.
Oh my goodness. Hope Molina is alright
I find it hard to believe that there isn’t an X-ray machine at Minute Maid too, but perhaps the stadium is very near a hospital.
This makes the utter failure of Hughes and IPK even worse.
Haha…
Guys take a look at yahoo sports’ box score.
Take a look at the ’scoring summary’.
Cano had a heck of a day!
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/boxscore;_ylt=AmS2D4nmutxZIT1FDeLnleI5nYcB?gid=280615118
Pete I don’t know if you ever hurt your Achilles but my experience and the couple of others that I’ve seen lead me to believe Wang would have crumpled into a heap if that was what he had done; you can’t even fake/hobble step on it. I thought he rolled the ankle coming across the bag at third but I guess that was wrong as well. Sprained foot ligaments can be an absolute bitch. I hope it’s just a couple of starts. Amy way it’s sliced it bites though; he was really pulling it together of late.
“utter”
I’m not sure that word means what you think it means.
Short the Taiwanese Stock Exchange tomorrow!
Jonah: Erm. Disappointment? Sure. Utter failure? We’re not there yet.
“I’m not sure that word means what you think it means.”
I’m sure Jonah has heard the term utter failure throughout his life so I’m guessing he knows what it means.
Cano had a heck of a day!
More than heck of a game. He scored from 3rd on his own single.
He was limping pretty bad. You just never know with these things. After all, Pierce was rolling on the floor, had to be carried off, and two minutes later was back on the floor, no ill effects to his playing.
NYY-
Apparently Cano is channeling his inner Chuck Norris.
“After all, Pierce was rolling on the floor, had to be carried off, and two minutes later was back on the floor, no ill effects to his playing.”
I guess it doesn’t matter… he’s opening a can on the Lakers hurt or not.
“Cano had a heck of a day!”
What is something George Bush would say, Alex.
Still a drama queen.
bruney and wang will join eachother out for the year with the same injury
I would personally like to thank all of the doctors on this blog who can tell us by looking at someone on a televison screen or looking on google what the prognosis is for someone.
Why not wait until the tests are done and we find out what it is. Same thing for media people (thats you Kim Jones). It my end up being that but I bet you before Brian Bruney had that injury you could not even tell anyone what part of the body a lisfranc injury was. And I am a fan of hers.
With that being said might he have hurt the foot when he went to second on the close ply looked like he went into that bag wih his foot awkwardly.
Also can we get a Ken SIngleton to be the permanent replacement host for the Joe Girardi Show. A vast improvement over Kay.
“…can we get a Ken SIngleton to be the permanent replacement host for the Joe Girardi Show.”
I second that!
Crawdaddie:
Girardi said several times that “we’re calling it a sprain.” He wouldn’t say what it actually was. Wang was examined by one of the Houston team doctors. I’m guessing that he said something more than “it’s a sprain.”
And when a player isn’t allowed to talk to to the media, there’s usually a reason: they’re afraid he’ll tell the truth.
Every team in every sport lies about injuries. The Yankees are no different than anybody else. This is the same team that said Bruney “had no structural damage”
“Still a drama queen.”
If you say so. I shredded the ligaments in my ankle, had to have a screw inserted, and only missed 1 game. Some people fight through injuries, maybe you wouldn’t. Not everyone is the same.
Is it possible he faked the whole thing? Sure. But considering he’s been one of the tougher players in the league throughout his career, similar to AI, I’d give him the benefit of the doubt. Is it so unreasonable to think he freaked out when he thought he may have hurt his knee and had his season ended in game 1 of the NBA Finals?
Maybe you can buy a computer program that will automatically put an asterisk next to the Celtics every time the name comes up on the web.
BTW Wang Jr. today
Jeffrey Marquez
7 scoreless innings, 3 hits, 3 K’s
PT/S: 83-54, GO/AO 12-4
Jeffrey has allowed 8 ER in his last 31 IP (5 starts)
Brandon,
Nice to see… either as a possible call up at some point or as trade bait.
wasn’t Pierce the one that was stabbed 12 times?
I’m no Celtics fan, but Pierce isn’t a cry baby.
“they’re afraid he’ll tell the truth.”
Pete, why though?
I agree that they always hide these things… but what’s the point? It’s not like the NFL where opponents can build a gameplan around whether or not a QB is playing.
Is there a clear advantage to the Yanks to keep quiet about an injury?
Am I the only one who thinks he may have initially hurt it on his non-slide into second? He landed on second a little awkward. I figure he did that then totally aggravated it before home plate.
I am not sure if they discussed it during the game–I watch with the volume off until I can find an option that mutes Michael Kay.
Rebecca,
Yes, he was stabbed several times in the face, neck, and back.
Nice to see… either as a possible call up at some point or as trade bait.
My exact thoughts Rebecca. Either he, Horne or McCutchen will take that next start vs the Mets.
My prediction based on what I saw is a stress fracture to the foot.
Too bad, they had a great weekend. the Joba move looks great right now. My thinking is that maybe its time for a trade for a starter. Maybe dangle a few prospects and get someone. If Wang is out for more than two weeks they could be out of this soon
“Am I the only one who thinks he may have initially hurt it on his non-slide into second?”
That’s a possibility that nobody had yet brought up. You may be right on that one.
oh boy, Wang is out for the season
Don’t it figure? Just when the team starts to get a little roll and start getting our hopes up again, this happens.
No sense worrying about it I guess until we know for sure what it is, but damn, can’t we catch a break injurywise?
Brandon,
who would you predict gets the call of those 3?
Isn’t Marquez similar in style to Masterson? I’m not suggesting he’d have the same initial success but if he can keep the ball on the ground, he’d have better chances than a pitcher who gives up more fly balls.
They call it a sprain because until they get the MRI results tomorrow they probably don’t know what it is.
Time for a trade- The Joba moves looks real good now. but they need a starter asap. If Wang is out for more than two weeks
“oh boy, Wang is out for the season”
Maybe if we’re lucky we’ll be saying the same thing about you sometime soon.
“The Last Yankee Fan™ (a.k.a. ER™) June 15th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
oh boy, Wang is out for the season”
Thank god you typed that. Now Wang will probably miss a few starts but be fine for the rest of the season.
“They call it a sprain because until they get the MRI results tomorrow they probably don’t know what it is.”
Not to mention, I believe “sprain” can mean a whole slew of different things and levels of severity.
Brandon, I wans’t the one that brought that up
Peter,
What else can they call it but a spain? Unlike an arm, you can’t tell if a bone is broken in a foot until x-rays or an MRI are taken. He definitely has some trauma to the foot, but beyond that if they haven’t taken any x-rays they’re guessing.
I would personally like to thank all of the doctors on this blog who can tell us by looking at someone on a televison screen or looking on google what the prognosis is for someone.
Gayle: “Why not wait until the tests are done and we find out what it is. Same thing for media people (thats you Kim Jones). It my end up being that but I bet you before Brian Bruney had that injury you could not even tell anyone what part of the body a lisfranc injury was. And I am a fan of hers.
With that being said might he have hurt the foot when he went to second on the close ply looked like he went into that bag wih his foot awkwardly.”
Ha Ha….Ok Pot
I will not feed the trolls
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I will not feed the trolls
I will not feed the trolls
I will not feed the trolls
thanks Pete with the quick update, now I will go and try to enjoy my dinner.
good point JoeT…
my bad
dave - i had something else written out… then thought better of it lol
Thanks for the updates Peter.
Why couldn’t this have happened to Pavano instead?
Ryan Howard is on pace to strikeout 217 times this season. Ouch.
The worst foot injury I ever saw was Vinny’s achilles, Jets vs. Bills in 1999. I remember him punching the turf at the Meadowlands. Bad times.
Wasn’t bad for the injury itself, just the raw emotion VInny displayed because he knew his season was done and with it, the Jets’ season as well.
But Dale Jr. won today! Whooooooo!!
Boston Dave, I get it, you wish that Pierce would be your buddy and hug and kiss you good night. I know quite a lot about injuries and the human body. Pierce might have had a little tweak. Nothing that required him to roll on the floor as he did. And seeing the way he is playing, and the way he is moving, there is nothing wrong with him. Nothing.
So, go back to your man love of the drama queen. I however, lost all respect for him with that acting.
Joe yes I know little kettle that is why i prefaced it by saying that being said lol.
Also i wasnt guessing on what the injury was just where he might have gotten it. When i first saw the replay during the game of him going into second it looked like he landed awkwardly on his foot.
Rebecca:
Pierce was stabbed 11 times. 50 Cent was shot nine times.
“Is his music any good?”
“He was shot nine times!”
Brandon, I wans’t the one that brought that up
I know Rebecca I scrolled too quickly
, Sorry Boston Dave.
This may be a stress fracture. Wang could be out 6-8 weeks before throwing off a mound again
Just a guess
I hate Boston. I hate many things related to Boston.
But between Mamba and the C’s, I don’t care if Pierce crawled off the floor. I hate Mamba. I hate him with a passion. And he needs to be taught a lesson.
Yeah! - It’s Pavano…. anything can happen
Die hard Yankee fan here but…. Red Sox lost Schilling, Dice k Big Pappi and keep rolling because the team has depth. The Yankees with the opening day line up are screwed. We have no bench and no depth. If Wang is out we are done. Hughes nad Ian are bad Joke
“I however, lost all respect for him with that acting.”
Darn, he worked so hard to earn your respect too.
“I know quite a lot about injuries and the human body.”
Ok Pavano. I guess that makes you the resident expert. So sorry for daring to challenge your professional opinion.
Joe Mama: You might be right, but I hope you’re wrong, no offense.
Pete,
They’re not afraid of anything. They’re “calling it a sprain” because they don’t know what it is yet! Can you let the man have an MRI before you go crying on your blog about how the Yankees won’t tell you what is wrong with Chien-Ming.
By the way, Tiger Woods is not human.
Rebecca,
No he’s not. I built him in my spare time.
Joe Mama,
that’s what I was thinking when it happened…
but as has been suggested several times, none of us have a clue so we might as well just wait and see and keep our fingers crossed.
Tseng: With what? He’s made of stuff you can’t find anywhere on earth.
Rebecca,
Is he winning? I saw he was down a couple strokes.
p.s. we need you to bring some optimism! The Yanks, I believe, are as close to the wildcard as they’ve been in a long time and have their best winning % of the season.
Remember when the Diamondbacks were the clear cut “best team in baseball” ?
They are 1 out from having the same record as the Yanks.
It just goes to show you that the disparity in talent in MLB is smaller than it’s been in a long time, maybe ever. The races, especially the wildcards, are going to be pretty exciting.
Boston: Last time I checked, yeah, one stroke lead.
and if you want some optimism, think of this: today was arguably the Yankees’ best offensive showing of the season, we’ve won four in a row, are four games over .500, just knocked the #@$$@#$ out of Roy Oswalt and swept the Astros, while going 5-1 on a WESTERN road trip, which we know the Yankees never do very well.
Oh, Johnny Damon is hitting over .330 and Alex and Hideki are each in the .325ish range.
And Robbie Canò had a few RBI.
and, uh, we’re not the Mets.
“Girardi said several times that “we’re calling it a sprain.” He wouldn’t say what it actually was. Wang was examined by one of the Houston team doctors. I’m guessing that he said something more than “it’s a sprain.”
And when a player isn’t allowed to talk to to the media, there’s usually a reason: they’re afraid he’ll tell the truth.
Every team in every sport lies about injuries. The Yankees are no different than anybody else. This is the same team that said Bruney “had no structural damage””
There you go again. It is unbeleivable.
Girardi said again and again he does not want to speculate and will talk after the test results are known.
Is it that difficult for the media vultures to understand?
Give him a break and stop being prima donnas.
Top foot sounds like a possible metatarsal injury. If broken/fractured, then he could be out between 6-8 weeks…
I can’t imagine that was an achilles injury. He would’ve been down for the count with one of those…
Rebecca,
Dont forget ARod and Jorge! Arod is at .326 and despite less AB’s, Jorge is at .318
Oh, and Giambi is over .360 in the past month.
Oops, you didnt forget Alex
Joey,
Do you think it’s possible that it is not a fracture but still “hurts a lot” ?
Hey look, today’s win actual got us back to a positive run differential!
lol Bob,
I noticed that as well.
OT: in draft pick news I just read that 22 yr. old Luke Greinke (brother of Zack) had a rise in velocity. Interesting.
Interesting nugget and happy belated B-day Luke, P.S. try to get another velocity rise going if you can.
i dread the smirk on girardi’s face when he announces kei has been called up :9
Listen people the options for his next start are Kennedy, Giese, Horne or McCutchen. No one else is in the conversation.
If Wang is out for a period of time, can someone please tell me realistically who will pitch in his place? Will they Yanks make a trade for an ace or will they just move a youngster up? I know they have a few good youngsters but is there anyone who will even come close to filling his shoes?
sox lost 2 of there 3 top starters and ortiz. We should handle it
Jeff don’t forget Marquez. I’ll be back later people. Good luck keeping sanity here because in a few minutes the panic squad will arrive.
Awful break for wang.
We won’t feed the trolls. We can do our best and hold down the fort, even if it’s 3-4 starts. If it’s more, becoming “buyers” because we’re the Yankees doesn’t seem right. It seems more like the moment when you really begin to take inventory of what you’ve really got. I still don’t see this team as strong enough to be “buyers,” even with a healthy Wang.
It continues to be a tough, but fascinating, season.
2708: It depends how long.
If he’s just missing two or three starts, you can look at piecing something together from Giese and Kennedy.
If he’s out till the end of August, there are some serious decisions the Yankees will have to make.
Rebecca,
Thanks, I dont post here often but when I do, you always seem to be the one willing to take the time out to answer us less than baseball educated baseball fans.
Wang seemed to have straigtened himself out. Too bad about the timing of this injury. But at least it isn’t an arm, shoulder or elbow. It could be just a sprain but we will all have to be patient.
Who besides me was cursing the NL for making pitchers hit after this happened?
They are the only league in organized baseball without the DH.
Another example of Bud Selig’s lack of leadership.
3 or 4 starts we can survive provided that Rasner doesn’t implode.
Anything more than that and Cashman has to show he can actually make a trade where the Yankees aren’t getting an all star for cash and warm bodies.
I don’t have the faith in him that some of you have. I think he’s incapable of making a trade for CC because he’s so terribly wedded to his prospects right now and he has no history of making fair trades. The old days of the Yankees waiving their checkbook and winning the trade are over. Now it’s talent for talent.
If Wang is out for an extended stretch, we need to make a deal for a starter. End of story.
I just hope Cashman can make one.
The team is coming together and they look good. They can be very good the rest of the way if the pitching holds up.
Hughes and Kennedy failure thus far this year has hurt this team immeasurably, but we’re still in it.
http://stlouis.cardinals.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200806152937517
Not for the faint of heart. I am sick to my stomach watching it. He didn’t move after at all. Say a prayer for him tonight.
Not only did cano have a ridiculous 6th inning, according to gamecast he was hitting of hawkins during the game too. I don’t know which to be more excited about, the fact that cano was able to score from third on his own single or that hawkins is pitching for houston. i wonder who we got far hawkins, maybe sabathia???
Just read an article on it. Supposedly they told him not to move, and he has a ‘mild concussion’ mild my **. He was leveled, there is no way it was mild.
I quit watching the Yanks when they got up 6 runs to watch my man Dale Jr.
How did Cano score from third on his own single?
This is what I said over on RAB, based on a similar sounding injury that I had earlier this year:
I’m assuming at least a Grade II sprain - partial ligament tear. Sounds like if he was grasping top of foot, it could maybe be anterior talo-fibular ligament..? VERY painful (especially day of - absolutely can feel like a break), and takes 4-8 weeks to come back from it. There are also possibilities of stress fracture and other hard-to-see ankle and foot bone fractures that the MRI would reveal. Note: I’m no medical doctor - I just had this type of injury myself recently, and being a Ph.D., I researched the crap out of all the possibilities online.
I predict if he’s out 4-8 weeks, one of the kids will step it up - and who it is could be a surprise… (I mean who would have thought Wang would turn out this way when he came up 2 or 3 yrs ago under similar circumstances…).
Looks like Willie should be safe..for now
Let’s hope for the best for Wang, but if he goes on the DL for an extended period of time I have faith that we’ll muddle through…
GO YANKS!!!!
S.A.- No pain..no gain
But is Michael Kay?
Maybe the yesnetwork will like Kenny’s work on the Joe G show and he will lose it. 
One can only hope!
“But is Michael Kay?
Maybe the yesnetwork will like Kenny’s work on the Joe G show and he will lose it. 
One can only hope!”
LOL! Fingers crossed.
Hopefully we get something out of whoever comes. Personally, I would love to see McCluteon over karstens.
One would think with so much on the line ($$$,forecasting the pitching rotation, etc)… that, i don’t know, maybe they could get an MRI tonight?
At least a preliminary one. Why wait 18 hours, when you could at least have some inkling to how bad this might be. I mean we as fans are impatient, you’d think Hank or Cash who have so much on the line with how serious this might be would want to know everything like yesterday.
But who knows maybe he is already having one tonight and the tomorrow thing is to give them time to get contingency plan b, c and d in a row.
Brandon’s right, we can’t rule out Marquez. I’m not sure who is on the 40 man and who isn’t though.
All I have to say is if for some wacky reason, Igawa makes a start, I say we organize a protest at Yankee Stadium. I’ll bring the pitchforks, someone else is in charge of the torches.
S.A. - That was clever.
Just do it in Times Square, You’ll get more people!
40 man
Kei Igawa
Jeff Karstens
Ian Kennedy
Jeffrey Marquez
Scott Patterson
Steven White
Chase Wright
The above are the pitchers on the 40 man. Now they could bring up McCutchen and drop Chris Stewart. Ian Might be ready, and they could have Griese backing him up.
amongst all this playful banter, I haven’t seen anyone suggest who replaces Wang on the roster.
Call up or trade?
I would think call up - anyone have any idea what the pecking order is?
From NYDaily news blog
4:50 p.m.: Here’s a look at the Triple-A Scranton rotation over the past turn, in case the Yankees need to replace Wang with one of the guys pitching in the minors.
Wednesday, June 11: Jeff Karstens started
Thursday, June 12: Kei Igawa
Friday, June 13: Alan Horne
Saturday, June 14: Dan McCutchen
Today: Jeffrey Marquez
Tomorrow: Karstens
Maybe McCutchen or Marquez? I hope to god it wouldn’t be Igawa
I’m thinking Kennedy or Marquez.
i hear kenny rogers is available for a dime…
heh - I kid.
we’ll also need a pitcher for the Met double header. Looks like we’ll get to see at least one new young gun.
McCutchen or Marquez? I dunno about Kennedy.
If it’s Igawa-God help us
Maybe we will have that protest in Times Square
I’m game!!
anyone watching Tiger??
he’s in the rough 105 yards away, needs to put this on the green and one-putt for birdie to go to a playoff
Can someone please explain why meacham sent a pitcher who clearly doesn’t run well on what could have been a close play at the plate anyway?!?!!? Particularly since the Yanks already had a 4 run lead and Wang didn’t get a good jump off of second.
OK - aside from what Wang said, that is good news. Not his Achilles Tendon or Ankle. Get well soon Wang but don’t rush him back!
He can rest for a month and we’ll be fine. Joba gave an inspiring outing, Pettitte came around, Moose has been Moose and Rasner needs to bounce back. With that said, Giese has pitched exceptionally well in the spot starter role and I CANT WAIT TO SEE MCCUTCHEN!!! Please god don’t bring up Karstens or Igawa.
“Can someone please explain why meacham sent a pitcher who clearly doesn’t run well on what could have been a close play at the plate anyway?!?!!? Particularly since the Yanks already had a 4 run lead and Wang didn’t get a good jump off of second.”
Sure, if it hadn’t already been explained 10 times.
Meacham isn’t as good a 3rd base coach as Bowa, but you can’t blame him for Wang’s injury. That really is a stretch to say the least.
Per Tyler Kepner - “he (Wang) told others that he felt a pop in his foot while rounding third base, a strong sign of ligament damage that could sideline him for months, if not the rest of the season.”
Jack - did you watch the play? the play wasn’t anywhere near close and Wang was running on the pitch - you can’t get a better jump then 3-2 count with 2 outs… he was 10 feet from third before the ball was even hit
“Not for the faint of heart. I am sick to my stomach watching it. He didn’t move after at all. Say a prayer for him tonight.”
On the Cards’ blog I frequent, they say he’s ok. Whiplash like symptoms and a mild concussion. When he said his neck hurt, they told him to lay still.
I don’t even follow golf and I’m watching this right now
Tiger has one putt to force a playoff. Great drama. If Tiger can win then my fathers day will have been perfect. The Yanks, Dale Jr, and Tiger all winning.
I wonder how many times we will hear the name Bronson Arroyo from Francessa this week…
Wow Tiger
Oh Crap! Tiger just sank the birdie putt to force a playoff tomorrow.
Tiger’s not that bad.
I wonder if any reporters will criticize his fist pump. He showed him up!
Tiger sneaks it in. Unbelievable
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2008/6/15/552258/proof-the-astros-are-run-b
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/16/sports/baseball/16yankees.html?ref=sports
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Time to sign CC and Tex,,,,NOW !
I guess Jack left after realizing he missed the game
the playoff is tomorrow?? that’s stupid.. i was all excited lol
nevermind - didn’t realize it was an 18-hole playoff
hahaha in the post game interview was it you Pete that mentioned the achilles tendon? Girardi looked dumbfounded and was like uhhhh I just said it was a sprain.
“I don’t have the faith in him that some of you have.”
Really? I never would have guessed that.
Honestly, how about we wait and see what the actual projected scenario is before we assume Cashman isn’t capable of doing something that he may not even have to do in the first place.
Randy Wolfe?
Actually, pushing Thursday’s pitcher back a day and pitching Igawa against san Diego might be a pretty good idea. You hope he pitches a good game and sucker the Padres into making a deal for him.
OOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!
I believe the Yanks have each of the next two Mondays off, including tomorrow, so if it’s a short time issue, the Yanks should be able to piece one win from the next two starts Wang is scheduled to pitch.
I am from Taiwan~
This early morning,about 2:00am,I listened to the radio for Wang’s game,althought I have class,in Taiwan,it’s Monday~
It was a nice game.Many homeruns flies.
But Wang injured,and he may not have the next game.It’s so pitty.I hope that he can recover soon.
Have a nice day~Every of you.
Jennifer that is almost as bad as last Saturday at the game they Yankees on the jumbotron put up something Vote for Wilson Betemit for the All Star game lol
They were doing it for all the players who started the game but Wilson Betemit come on
I hope Wang didn’t tear ligaments; that could sideline him till at least August.
Tiger is crazy, btw.
Molly’s post makes me smile. Baseball is so great, it can bring people together across thousands of miles to root against a team 200 miles up the road.
Molly, while you’re here, can you throw a sinkerball? If you can, any chance you’d be available to pitch in a few days?
Ha ha
I am not good at even “throwing” balls.
still less the “change ups”(?!)
BTW,even the game was in early morning,the audience rating of the game is unbelievable high!!
gayle
I bet Wilsons parents aren’t even voting for him.
I bet the score board guys did it as a joke.
My guess is they go with Giese next weekend, at least until Kennedy is ready to come back. There are not really any great options at AAA right now. We all know Igawa is horrendous, Marquez hasn’t been that great down there, Mccutcheon has had only 1 good start, and Horne is just back from the DL. They can go with Dan Giese and bring up somone like Britton or Patterson for the bullpen
Molly, keep your fingers crossed, maybe the news about Wang won’t be so bad. Remember, the ROC’s great father was a Yankee fan.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/92472245@N00/2109600289/in/set-72157603451651434/
Stormrider6
I agree it is cool to see people posting on this Yankee blog for around the world.
Wow anyone watching the college ws. The left fielder was clueless as to where the ball went, he is standing out on the warning track and the ball went to medium center field.
I agree that Giese probably gets Wang’s next start. The good news is that with some off days coming up, the Yankees can play around a little with the rotation.
However, as I said if Wang’s out for a few months, Giese will likely not be the complete solution.
I have no use for the CWS since I know that the Eagles from Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University already won the super-secret CWS. Similarly, the Buffalo Bills actually won last year’s super-secret Super Bowl, 27-10 over the 1985-86 Chicago Bears.
the solution is that fat guy playing for cleveland.
i played embry-riddle in club baseball actually…. kinda funny that of all the schools u picked that one
Stormrider: At least your university has a baseball program!
JoeT - That’s because I went there! 01-05. Didn’t play baseball, though - I played Army and worked at the radio station.
Rebecca - They’re not bad, either - made it to the NAIA World Series this year. ‘Cuse doesn’t have a team? Inconceivable!
Stormrider: princess bride fan?!
And the baseball team was cut in the 70s or 80s. Given Syracuse’s weather and that finals are in the first week of May, it didn’t make much sense to have it. ‘Cuse is a total basketball school.
No idea about Fordham though.
CWS Just one of the worst calls I’ve seen! Runner was past first when the first baseman got the ball. He was so safe and was called out!
OK, a few things about the injury. I am far from a doctor, but I do know this: an achilles injury is NOT a right foot injury. Unless the doctors they had look at Wang know nothing, then it can’t be his achilles because that would not be a “right foot” injury. But another misconception I’ve seen posted here is that if you pop your achilles you fall down and can’t walk. Not true. I know someone who popped their achilles while playing basketball, felt a lot of pain, sat down for a few minutes, and then continued to play in the game. Obviously after that day they needed to be put in a cast but saying he wouldn’t be able to run home if it was an achilles injury is completely incorrect.
But I don’t really think the injury can be anything too terrible being that Girardi couldn’t even completely rule out him making his next start. And Pete’s whining about the Yankees not knowing exactly what happened to him yet is just childish. Come on, is it really something to lose sleep over? He got hurt. The Yankees releasing every single piece of medical information about it they get hold of doesn’t really help anyone.
OOps I meant he was called out and he was totally safe!
DFox
You are correct. My father popped his Achilles while playing basketball. He heard the pop as you said came home sat and iced it and didn’t go to the doctor till the next day.
he (Wang) told others that he felt a pop in his foot while rounding third base, a strong sign of ligament damage that could sideline him for months, if not the rest of the season
That’s not a sign of ligament damage. Feeling like someone kick you heel or ankle is ligament damage, feeling a pop is more like a strain.
DFox
and it doesn’t help their leverage if they need to make a trade.
Rebecca - Yeah, I actually just watched it the other day. I have spent a lot of time at Syracuse (Day Hall actually). It’s a shame that Fordham changed their name from the Fordham University Christian Knights to the Paladins, though… The acronym was priceless.
I take back what I said, when I read what Brandon wrote. (this happened 20 years ago) He felt like someone kicked him.
Stormrider: Day? I know where you’re talking about, up on the mount, but I never stayed there—too many stairs!
Lived in Haven, and then off of Euclid.
ny times and post reporting wang probably out for season
storm - that’s awesome, i hear great things about the school - the field there is incredible!!
I think we’re going to play ER again this year… i’ll let you know how it works out
IDK or think that Horne is ready yet, but he is throwing at an improving rate, Dan McCutchen made this a difficult choice w/ his CG last night and Marquez certainly has made a case for himself in his last 5 starts. The successor to Wang has always been Marquez, if something were to happen to a SP in the rotation he was option 1, Chase Wright is on the 40 because he was Rule 5 eligible but now w/ his recent injury he is not an option until he throws some innings.
I think they’ll skip Wang’s spot this week and pay attention to who out performs who so this week could be a showcase to get to the Majors for Jeff Marquez who is on the 40, Dan McCutchen who would require a player getting DFA or Alan Horne who would require the same. Or they might just go w/ Giese and add a BP arm like Patterson.
Apparently neither Mussina nor Pettitte got the memo that Wang isn’t an ace:
“Mussina made it clear he didn’t know the extent of Wang’s injury. However, he understands what losing Wang would mean.
“Nothing against A-Rod and (Jorge) Posada but when you lose a front-line starter, that’s a big deal,” Mussina said. “There are seven other guys in the lineup. When you lose your No. 1 starter, that’s very hard. He is the ace.”
Like everybody else, Pettitte’s fingers are firmly crossed, as he realizes the magnitude of losing Wang, who threw five shutout innings and improved to 8-2.
“Obviously, it would be a huge loss,” Pettitte said. “He is our ace and unreplaceable for what he does.”
from the post- HOUSTON - They won’t be sure until Chien-Ming Wang exits the Carl Pavano Memorial MRI tube tomorrow and the test is examined, but there is a strong belief in the Yankees’ universe that Chien-Ming Wang’s season could be over due to a Lisfranc fracture in his right foot.
daniel: Links?
Here is the NY post article on Wang:
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06152008/sports/yankees/yankees_rout_astros_13_0__but_wang_hurt_115666.htm
the post and times are retarded then…. Wang won’t have an MRI until tomorrow morning so they’re making stuff up. They might be right, but they have no idea. Like someone said this afternoon, most people couldn’t even tell you where a lisfranc injury occurs until Brunney got it earlier in the year so I highly doubt they can now diagnose it. I’m not worried and I won’t be until I hear a definitive report
NY post has nothing new they just say “there is a strong belief in the Yankees’ universe that Chien-Ming Wang’s season could be over due to a Lisfranc fracture in his right foot.”
whatever Yankee Universe means
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06152008/sports/yankees/yankees_rout_astros_13_0__but_wang_hurt_115666.htm
“the Carl Pavano Memorial MRI tube”
LOL..oy vey
oh, and getting an MRI will now be referred to as getting a Carl Pavano
you can also go on the Carl Pavano for 15 days
Times suggesting that’t the injury because there’s swelling on the top of the foot, he can’t bear weight, and more importantly teammate Brian Bruney has the same injury.
Wang is most likely done for the season. If it’s not the season, it’s probably the majority of it.
Getting C.C at this point I think would cost too much in terms of prospects. I think Cashman will, and should see what it would take to reel him in.
A more palatable option, IMO, would be Aaron Harang. He’s not as good as C.C. but he’s just as good if not better than Wang. I read where Jocketty wants to clean house - hopefully he makes Harang available.
And before all the Harang is not a suitable replacement for Wang arguments start, check his stats foe the last 3 years.
And he’s fresh off dominating the Red Sox - with Manny - on Friday. I don’t know if he will be available, but Cash should check into it.
It’s getting harder to stay optimistic.
It’s easy to brush off the Post as pure speculation. However, when the Times says the same thing, you take notice.
Poor Wang
The Harangatang in pinstripes? He’d have to get rid of some hair, but I could see it.
The only trade that would be made is for CC. What’s the realistic price?
Daniel - Times and Post are just saying that it -could- be the same injury that Bruney has. The Post does call it the “Carl Pavano Memorial MRI tube[!]” Let’s not give up hope just yet.
JoeT - ER is good, but expensive. What team do you play for? Don’t say Flagler!
Rebecca - Everyone at SU has lived off of Euclid. 255-KEGS anyone? I miss that place.
“The successor to Wang has always been Marquez, if something were to happen to a SP in the rotation he was option 1,”
What? That couldn’t be further from the truth. Option 1 was Karstens. Option 2 was Rasner. Option 3 was Igawa or Horne. Option 4 was the other. Option 5 was probably Marquez, until Giese destroyed AAA this year.
Just because Marquez is also a sinkerball pitcher (of the less-hard-throwing classical variety and thus not really much like Wang at all), this in NO way mades him the successor to Wang, OR the first option out of the minors this year.
This makes Nick MAD!
Stormrider: Mayfest. Good times.
Wait, didn’t the Times exaggerate the extent of Jorge’s shoulder injury earlier? Saying it was a more severe tear than it was before he even got an MRI or something like that?
Wang could very well ended up being out for the season, but we won’t find out until tomorrow. I wouldn’t be surprised if there are other speculations floating around saying according to “Yankees universe” he has the same injury Bruney had or he tore his achilles tendon just because Kim Jones or Pete Abe asked about it. It’s like the telephone game…
All of this speculation by the papers that Wang’s season is over is completely premature.
The notion that his season is over due to a Lisfranc injury is just irresponsible at this time.
Two months ago no one in the non-descript “Yankee Universe” even knew what a Lisfranc injury was. That’s not a common injury and its really , really uncommon without a significant blow or direct trauma to the foot. Bruney had a freak injury. That’s it. But since Bruney hurt his foot Wang has the same thing?
Here’s the most specific thing Kepner said about Wang’s injury:
“Bruney’s injury was in the middle of the foot, and Wang’s is believed to be in the webbing of his toes, between his big toe and second toe.”
Lisfranc injury’s cause pain in the middle of the foot. Not in the webbing of the toe. I have no idea what would be wrong in the webbing of someone’s foot that would cause him to miss the entire season.
No one is going to know before the MRI. People and the papers did the same thing with Posada’s shoulder - citing unnamed yankee sources and stretching it into rumors about Posada missing the season.
Let’s wait. Hearing a pop is associated with ligaments tearing. But that’s what a sprain is. When you sprain your ankle you’re tearing ligaments in your ankle. Wang may have done something similar to the top of his foot or in between his first two toes.
Hysteria begins. George King isn’t going that crazy about it, but w/ Wang no one knows until he gets an x-ray, Minute Maid doesn’t have those equipments so right now they were going by team doctor’s word of opinion. We’ll know more tomorrow afternoon.
Bronson Arroyo will save us?
Ugh. Come on Lakers
Bronson Arroyo will save us?
I guarantee FATBOY announces that on his show tonight.
storm - not flagler lol - i play with the UCF club team.
“ut w/ Wang no one knows until he gets an x-ray, Minute Maid doesn’t have those equipments so right now they were going by team doctor’s word of opinion.”
X-rays only show bones as I understand it. They don’t show any ligaments. That’s why he needs an MRI.
Brandon,
No Francessa tonight. I believe it’s Beck’d up.
I’m mike francesa welcome to the show Yanks get a sweep in houston, but lose their number 1 starter. So what does this mean? Well it means Brian needs to go trade for a starter, ando they ain’t getting Cc so I would turn to Bronson Arroyo who we all remember was the pitcher on the mound when arod knocked the ball out of his hands. Oh yea Joba pitched well I knew all along he should of been a starter. we’re back with Tiger heroics.
No Francessa tonight. I believe it’s Beck’d up.
Praise the lord.
I am looking forward to the CC speculation picking up again tomorrow. I’ll be reading at work when I get the chance - have a good night!
Wow, I really really hope he’s not out for -that- long…. Ugh.
And no, this doesn’t mean Cashman’s going to trade for CC tomorrow. The Indians would ask for Cano+Hughes+Kennedy+Melky+Horne+Melancon+Cox.
Yes, I’m kidding, but you don’t deal from a place of weakness. The Indians will more than likely drag this out to July 31st unless someone blows them out of the water (meaning, overpays by a lot).
What does everyone think (honestly) gets it done for C.C.
I say a centerpiece IPK or Marquez/Horne and then a second tier guy what say you.
V even though I don’t see Cashman doing what you don’t think he will do. Cleveland is not going to ask for pitching, they are in need of position players, which still the Yankees will not do. I’m hoping people (Yankees fans) will be smart enough to know Wang getting hurt doesn’t mean oh lets go get Harden, oh lets get Penny oh lets get CC…that’s not going to be happening at all.
I say a centerpiece IPK or Marquez/Horne and then a second tier guy what say you.
Think more Tabata/Curtis and Jesus Montero or Jackson/Pena and Melancon. I don’t see this happening at all either way you slice it.
Brandon- Do you thinbk this looks like a playoff rotation
Moose, Pettitte, Joba, Rasner, Giese/Igawa/Horne. I dont think so I believe if Wanger is out for the year then C.C. is necessary or you are essentially conceding the season.
Nick we are not making drastic moves if 1 SP goes down. BTW if Horne pans out he can be better than you think. Giese is a long man journey man, the Yankees are not going to expand the price on acquiring a SP even if his name is CC Sabathia. Is Sabathia obtainable sure will we acquire I highly doubt it. I think you will see Horne, McCutchen and Marquez get thier shots before a CC trade is even a thought, especially at the current price.
I dunno about that Markakis AL is wide open I just hope its not a Bruney type injury. Speaking from personal experience I injured my foot playing baseball in high school in the same fashion as Wanger I was trying to score from second and I wasnt that fast so I tried to kick it into another gear when I felt a pop. Needless to say I was in pain and I got gunned out at the plate it hurt more along the top ridge of my foot by the toes and my doc told me it was a sprain. Never really found out what it was but I had a soft cast on it for 2 weeks and by the third week I was practicing again doing sprints and drills. Once again I am not a doctor but I was playing again after about a month. This is obviously me just giving a personal story but if Wang has a similar injury to mine (which felt way worse at the time) then its not likely season ending. Thank God it wasnt a knee or ankle injury those are ugly I been there too.
I dont think a C.C. trade is a must but this is where Hughes being out is felt. Maybe if he wasnt injured he would be getting into form as a front end guy and the Wang loss wouldnt be such a killer.
I didn’t see the game and have no medical experience whatsoever but I’m sure Wang will be fine. A guy on my softball team twisted his ankle last week and was able to play yesterday, and he’s a fat load.
Or else Wang has an AnneFranc injury and will never play again. That’s even less common than a LisFranc and the only cure is two years hiding out in an Amsterdam attic.
I dont think McCutchen or Horne are ready McCutchen because hes only been at AAA for a few weeks and Horne has been injured.
Wow - I’ve seen some crazy things posted but people actually think the third base coach is a factor in Wang’s injury? That is simply idiotic. Regardless of the extent of the injury, Yankees will be in the playoffs. Four games out now, only a matter if time.
Well, thank god we had Joba transition into the starting rotation
I think Wang will be fine. I watched the video of him hobbling home and by the way he was limping it certainly didn’t look like the achilles tendon.
Also, he really didn’t need as much “help” getting down the steps as people described, everyone was just playing careful. Obviously, Wang won’t be out there for the next start but it is good news that he was able to make it home after the sprain.