Game 71: Padres at Yankees
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(Check all the updates for news. Lots of stuff today)
YANKEES (37-33)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Pettitte LHP
Andy Pettitte (6-5, 4.64) vs. the San Diego hitters.
Randy Wolf (5-4, 3.83) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: With CMW on the DL, Billy Traber has been recalled from Scranton. He comes equipped with a new slider. … The teams are playing for the first time since 2004 when the Yankees took two of three at the Stadium. … The Yankees have won four straight, five of six and seven of their last nine. … Pettitte was terrific in his last start, holding Oakland to one run over eight innings. He is 3-1, 2.74 against the Padres in his career. … Andy is tied with Ron Guidry with 170 wins as a Yankee. That’s fourth in team history. Lefty Gomez is third at 189.
Back later with some updates.
UPDATE, 5:10 p.m.: Dan Giese is officially the starter for Saturday. … Spoke to Chien-Ming Wang. He said he was injured while running on the grass past third base. It came when he pushed off his leg. He will have to wear the boot for 6 weeks even when he’s sleeping. He hopes to come back in September. “I’m going to do rehab every day,” he said. “I’ll try.”
Wang got a supportive text message from Larry Bowa, who told him not to let this injury keep him down. Ron Guidry, who is very close with Wang, called him.
“You can pitch,,” Guidry told him, jokingly. “But you can’t run.”
Wang also is in favor of using the DH in interleague games. “Better for the pitcher,” he said.
You have to feel bad for the kid. The Yankees fought him for $600,000 in arbitration. And now this freak injury will cost him money if they go to arbitration next year.
UPDATE, 5:15 p.m.: Don’t know if you’re watching Omar Minaya’s press conference. But it’s a total disgrace. He’s actually blaming the media, saying the atmosphere around the team forced him to fire the manager.
How can you be an executive in New York and think that way? Ask Ernie Accorsi and Jerry Reese, who stuck with Tom Coughlin and won the Super Bowl.
Minaya goes next. It’s just a matter of when. Over/under is the All-Star break.
UPDATE, 5:19 p.m.: Here’s Hal Steinbrenner on Wang’s injury:
“I think we’re going to stick to the young guys. We’re always out there looking, researching, doing our recon work, and we’ll continue to do that. Losing Wang hurts us, he’s our ace, but the good news is it looks like he’s going to be back before the end of the season, and I know we’ll need him.
“We’ve had a lot of injuries this year and every one of them’s upsetting, but you strengthen your resolve and keep pushing forward. We’ve been good at that all year and we’ll continue to do that, and we’ll be there at the end.”
UPDATE, 5:21 p.m.: Ian Kennedy is not under consideration to pitch the second game of that Mets doubleheader on June 27. The Yankees seem determined to get him some time in AAA. That’s likely a very good idea.
Meanwhile, I went to the Padres clubhouse to speak to Trevor Hoffman for my Sunday column. What a tremendous guy. We got to talking about Mariano Rivera and here’s what he said:
“It’s an honor to be mentioned in the same sentence as that man. I have tremendous respect for him. I’m hoping that sometime in the next three days I can shake his hand and tell him that.”
How great is that?
UPDATE, 5:30 p.m.: Lots of people in the press room here at the Stadium watching Minaya’s presser. It has veered off the road from being simply embarrassing to being making you want to cringe.
The Mets are a Triple-A team playing in a big stadium. What a mess. It’s total clown college.
UPDATE, 5:35 p.m.: Morgan Ensberg was signed by Cleveland. This from the AP:
Former All-Star third baseman Morgan Ensberg signed a minor league contract with the Cleveland Indians on Tuesday after getting cut by the Yankees earlier this month.
Ensberg was assigned to Buffalo of the International League. The Indians are looking for hitters with Victor Martinez and Travis Hafner on the disabled list.
The 32-year-old hit just .203 with a home run and four RBIs in 28 games for New York this season. The Yankees designated Ensberg for assignment on June 1.
The Yankees still owe him the remainder of his $1.7 million deal in case you were wondering.
UPDATE, 5:59 p.m.: OK, you’ll love this.
Mussina wrote “The ice cream is back” on his message board. The Moose made a deal with Girardi that if he got to 10 wins, they’d put the ice cream freezer back in the player lounge. Now there are incentives for 12 wins (donuts) and 15 (candy, maybe).
Mussina went on one of his Dennis Miller-riffs on how he’s pitched well for so long on Mountain Dew, donuts and M&Ms. It was very funny.
Just spoke to Brian Cashman. The Yankees are very, very, very intrigued with Alfredo Aceves and his potential as a starter. But they want to see him in AAA first. “At least a small sample,” Cashman said.
No draft signings in recent days. Gerrit Cole? “That’s going to take a long time,” Cash said.
UPDATE, 7:26 p.m.: Cashman said it was too early to discuss the idea of Willie Randolph rejoining the Yankees in some capacity. Then he said several times what a good baseball man he was. “There’s a lot of baseball left in him,” he said.
UPDATE, 7:28 p.m.: That’s three home runs in as many days for A-Rod. No. 13 this year and No. 531 career. Only 232 left to erase the stain on the game.
UPDATE, 7:31 p.m.: Not so fast, A-Rod. That’s No. 16 for The Big G.
Not a good audition for Randy Wolf so far.
UPDATE, 7:36 p.m.: Brian Bruney threw a 27-pitch bullpen session today in Tampa. The Yanks are hopeful he’ll return after the All-Star break. That would be a big lift.
UPDATE, 7:59 p.m.: You want more news? We got more news. Brian Cashman said the Yankees would stick with three catchers for a while longer. “We’re going to be very careful with it to make sure everything is OK (with Jorge Posada) and we’re protected going forward. We’re not a team that goes to the bench much. I’m not belittling the bench but we could stick with three catchers for an extended period of time just to be certain.”
Cashman even held out the possibility of keeping three catchers all season. But he cautioned not to read anything into it.
“Jorge is not having any complaints, he feels great,” Cashman said. “Muy bueno.”
Yes, he said “muy bueno.”
UPDATE, 8:08 p.m.: What do figure the Yankees would go in the National League? 161-1? No, let’s be fair. 140-22.
To be serious, the Astros aren’t very good and the Padres are dreadful. But the Yanks have outscored their NL foes 27-5 the last four games (so far, anyway).
Meanwhile, Giambi is never going to shave. The power of the ’stache could supply energy to several Third World countries. That seems pretty obvious at this point.
UPDATE, 8:47 p.m.: Here’s why I love the people who comment on my blog (for the most part): Folks are discussing the pitchability of Alfredo Aceves.
Meanwhile, Andy Pettitte has allowed one run over his last 14 innings and fanned 13.
UPDATE, 8:49 p.m.: Journal News operatives just snuck into Brian Cashman’s office and stole his list of possible trade candidates for the rotation. Here it is:
Randy Wolf
UPDATE, 9:09 p.m.: I do believe that is it for Pettitte. Another great outing for him. 7 5 0 0 1 9. Last two starts: 15 10 1 1 2 15. Jose Veras up next.
UPDATE, 9:36 p.m.: A-Rod has shown off his arm tonight.
Meanwhile, Robbie Cano is 5 for 8 since starting Saturday’s game on the bench. Guess a little break was beneficial for him.
Some skinny guy wearing No. 42 is up for the Yankees. Mo hasn’t worked since Thursday in Oakland.
UPDATE, 9:53 p.m.: Talk about setting the tone for the series. You score eight runs and your pitchers strike out 14.
Thanks for reading. Back later.
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Anybody know how Traber has been in AAA?
the opening day lineup! I think thats 4 times all season? love the creativity…
Oh, by the way, when are they cutting Moeller? It seems like Posada is 100%.
Athletics, Padres, except for the weather, the uniforms, the league, and Billy Beane, they’re basically the same thing.
Traber was awful in AAA, cant believe he’s back up here.
TRABER!?
WHAT!?
Over Robertson!?
That’s just disappointing right there.
Billy Traber, oh god.
bill madon is now on 1050 he as angry as i ever saw him about the willi stuff!
Eric: They aren’t while Posada’s arm is still not at full strength.
RG, that may be the same players, but certainly not the same order as opening day.
Traber is surely going down when CMW’s turn in the rotation comes up.
Traber. lol. Nice outing against Norfolk on Sunday. Three hits, two runs in 2/3. Great new slider:)
maybe it was as simple as Billy Traber is on the 40-man, Robertson isnt yet?
Actually, better question, why isn’t Moeller starting against this guy?
http://www.baseball-reference......derby=Name
Rebecca-
He’s been an everyday player for a week now. He’s not 100%?
oh yeah…haha stupid comment. its pretty rare in that sense too though, isn’t it?
Anybody know how Traber has been in AAA?
Near putrid.
Eric: They’ve subbed for him in late innings because people can run rampant over him.
He’s healthy, but not 100%.
Jeez Bill Madden sounds like he wants to kick someone in the a..hole, no my questionn is conspicous by his absence where is Mike “I love my Mets” Lupica when he is needed
no= now *
“CC Sabathia is a better pitcher than Eric Bedard. There isn’t a single person in baseball who would take Bedard over Sabathia, regardless of how much CC weighs.”
This is like the Melky vs Beltran discussion – it isn’t just who is better, but the question is who is a better deal.
How attractive is CC at Johan money? Not very
CC is attractive at the right contract, So is Bedard. It just depends on the price.
Well.. It’s a lefty in the bullpen.. So, that’s something…
Up until Sunday Traber’s numbers were ok but misleading. Robertson has eaten up big innings in big spots. Traber will still be used ineffectively against lefties even with his new slider.
Eh F… it I’ll write it over.
Jeez Bill Madden sounds like he wants to kick someone in the a..hole, Now my question is conspicous by his absence where is Mike “I love my Mets†Lupica when he is needed
Maddon was on fire this morning – you would think the day would give him time to cool off a little bit
Maybe Traber will get one chance to show what he doesn’t have, then be sent down for good.
Somehow I doubt this brand new slider is going to make him a great pitcher.
LHB have a .283 AVG vs Traber
“Maybe Traber will get one chance to show what he doesn’t have, then be sent down for good.”
thats my guess… one final look, and away you go with your 40-man slot.
Maybe they’re bringing Traber up as the righty specialist?
Maybe this is Traber’s last audition for the big league club. If he’s awful this time up he’ll be DFA’d thus clearing a roster spot.
This is going to sound a little bit crazy, but isn’t it the least bit possible that the Yankees front office has some iota of knowledge about how to run a club?
Could there possibly be a rational explanation for all of the moves that the team makes?
It’s very frustrating watching the yankees call up loser after loser from AAA when there are clearly better arms to choose from. Who’s next, Kei Igawa?
for all those who think some of the young guys should get call ups…
remember, innings limits, mental makeup, etc… all goes into the decision making
M&MD were talking to Cash yesterday – needling him about failing to sign a real lefty in the past few years.
Cash seemed to concede the point. The good ones are too hard to get, but he’ll keep trying.
So when i see Traber up today, i hope Cash keeps on looking.
Traber is terrible. Get Marte already
“It’s very frustrating watching the yankees call up loser after loser from AAA when there are clearly better arms to choose from.”
Dave Robertson is not on the 40 Man roster. Therefore if they called him up someone would have had to be DFA’d or some other roster machinations would have had to take place.
Yeah the Yankees are stupid. Who makes these terrible bullpen decisions? How does that person still have a job?
Come on. Maybe this is a boring approach, but I trust Cashman to make these moves.
Bill Maddon is a scab. Crossed the picket line.
Yanks at A’s? It’s like deja vu all over again!!
Erick Threets had better luck in minor league ball than Traber
BTW incase anyone cares Jun. 15th
1.0 IP, 1 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 0 BB, 1 K
PT/S: 14-9, GO/AO 1-1
Yeh you go Erick !
Marte? Robertson has clearly earned a shot. He’s never had TJS so nothing should hold him back. He’s turned it around as far as control. Maybe he gets his shot after Billy blows his chance with yet another org.
Robertson could easily be added to the 40-man roster by moving Wang, Hughes or Alby to the 60-day DL
just let edwar pitch to the lefties why does the lefty specialist have to be a lefty if a right hander gets the job done better?
let edwar pitch to the lefties why does the left specialist have to be a lefty if a right hander can get the job done better
“Could there possibly be a rational explanation for all of the moves that the team makes?”
For answers to this and more, go to 46millionforigawa.com (:
They’re playing the Oakland Athletic Padres. Got it.
I wouldn’t have brought Traber up over Patterson if it was an issue of who was on the 40-man. Ah well. Good luck to him!
This front office kills me. Traber is a major league reliever – in fact he was supposed to be our lefty specialist. He couldn’t get an out and was sent to AAA. I’d rather see Scott Patterson than Traber.
“For answers to this and more, go to 46millionforigawa.com (:”
At the time they signed Igawa it was a rational move. Cashman thought he was getting a back end of the rotation guy for 4 mil a year.
There was never a time Cashman thought Igawa would be some sort of an ace. Turns out he was wrong, but the thought process behind the move was rational.
Fredo I actually thought that was a site 46millionforigawa.com
We SHOULD take 2 out of 3 here with an obvious loss with Rasner on the mound tomorrow.
raymagnetic there is no excuse for Igawa I’m sorry man. Jene Afterman or no, Igawa should have been a big no.
Eh, at least it wasn’t Neagle or Hampton
Jene Afterman is the assistant GM Micheal Kay (No she doesn’t schmooze players she just finds Igawas)
This from Chad Jennings last night:
I’ll throw out another wild card option.
Billy Traber hasn’t been particularly dominant in Triple-A. There have been plenty of times he’s been flatout bad, but the Yankees are about to face San Diego and Cincinatti.
The Padres best hitter — Adrian Gonzalez — is a lefty, as is Brian Giles. The Reds have Griffey, Dunn, Bruce, Votto and Bako all batting from the left side. I’m not saying Traber will go up, just throwing it out there.
Are Erick Threets and Livan Hernandez related? It seems like they are the worst two pitchers that get mentioned on the blog 100 times/night.
Brandon,
Igawa has been terrible. But at the time he was signed Cashman envisioned an inning eater back of the rotation guy for 4 mil a year.
Why is that concept so difficult to understand?
Willie Randolph’s first words as he exits
Um, Padres?
Raymagnetic he sucks for his price. Literally has to be the worst signing that keeps getting sent up and down the minors in baseball, to say Barry Zito can outpitch him is an embarrassment in itself.
Billy Traber’s last 10 appearances at Scranton :
W L ERA SV ING H ER BB K WHIP
2 0 1.98 2 13.2 15 3 3 13 1.36
So, he has been fairly good over the last 3 weeks. Plus, he is already on the 40 man. This move makes sense in the near term.
Robertson will be up sooner than later, and most likely at the expense of Traber or Olly.
Igawa’s signing was bad.
That said, there have been worse.
We cant just keep bringing up our prospects till they are ready. We cannot keep rushing them and then saying they suck when they aren’t ready. We already screwed up with Kennedy who I think should have started in teh minors regardless of last season. Minor leaguers need more than a year. Robertson probably just needs time. Plus, like someone mentioned, if Traber sucks pitching in the majors again, then we cut him and open a roster spot.
Adrian Gonzalez vs LHP on the road
.278/.350/.574 an OPS of .924
7 HR, 20 RBI, 26 K’s
not literally the worst signing. mike hampton and barry zito trump igawa in both length of contract and total dollar amount committed. igawa sucks, no doubt, but hampton and zito were worse as far as contracts go.
Willie handled himself with dignity and class…much more than you can say for the Mets.
Heck, Igawa’s not even the worst signing the Yankees have made in the last four years…yeah, you know who I mean.
Someone say my name?
Anyone want to tell me why we are STILL holding on to 3 catchers ?…this is crazy…get rid of Molina and bring someone up already….SHEESH !…
any chance Carl Pavano replaces Wang in the rotation?
there…I said it.
Hey Carl buddy, how goes the rehab? Working hard at not over-exerting yourself? We know how badly you’re wanting that new contract, since you’re laying the foundation for it right now.
Why would they get rid of Molina when he’s signed for 2/4? Moeller will be DFA’d, and they will likely lose him to waivers.
Carl P.
June 17th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Someone say my name?
Right on cue
“Raymagnetic he sucks for his price. Literally has to be the worst signing that keeps getting sent up and down the minors in baseball, to say Barry Zito can outpitch him is an embarrassment in itself.”
Brandon,
Read this slowly. Yes Igawa does suck at any price RIGHT NOW because he hasn’t shown he can get major league hitters out consistently.
When he was signed he was signed to be a back end of the rotation starter for 4 million a year.
Do you not see the rationality behind that thought process?
Kei Igawa was a strikeout champion in Japan. The Yankees thought he would have some use in the majors. Hasn’t turned out that way but hindsight is always 20/20
“We cant just keep bringing up our prospects till they are ready.”
27 –
Any special formula you would like to share to determine readiness?
Cano, Joba, Wang? Ready
Melky, Ohly, Veras, Edwar? Not ready, then ready.
Hughes, IPK? Ready, then not ready.
My point is that it is awful tough to tell. That is why they pay people to evaluate talent.
we would need a lefty to face a Griffey or Dunn this coming weekend
We got to do something with these sucky pitchers like Traber and others clogging our 40 man. Get Igawa off it, if we get lucky, someone takes his contract, if not oh well because he wont take a spot.
Moeller will be DFA’d, and they will likely lose him to waivers.
Maybe an under the radar 1 for 1 trade to the Giants for Erick Threets.
Rebecca (and Ray to some extent),
Forgive me, but who has been a worse free agent signing that Kei Igawa?
You can’t say Pavano. If he wasn’t injured, he would be in the major leagues pitching right now. He started opening day last year and his contract is for less money than Igawa’s.
Igawa cost the team 46 million and he’s healthy and cannot pitch in the major leagues and pitches to a 3.5 in AAA.
It’s the worst free agent signing in history because the guy had zero track record in major league baseball to warrant the money and the roster commitment.
At the time he was signed he was counted on to be a back of the rotation starter which he has not become.
He’s a AAA insurance policy that really isn’t insurance since he can’t pitch effectively in the majors.
It’s the worst signing in the history of baseball. Maybe that awful Albert Bell deal from the Orioles is comparable but they got actual production out of him.
And to compare Igawa to Zito is so far off base. Zito earned the contract with his history in Oakland. Did they overpay? Yes. But at the time he was a free agent he was a known commodity with a successful track record and no indication he was going to go south.
What a bunch of nerts. Traber is obviously bad. But he has lots of MLB service time. He’s on the 40-man roster. You can’t throw away an LHP reliever for nothing until you’re absolutely sure.
There’s no point in bringing up someone who’s a medium to high level prospect and a) exposing him while using him as your 12th pitcher b) never finding opportunities to use him and disrupting your normal rhythm
Yea I get in TKinDC. However, we need these kids to get hit around a little in the minors first. The first time these prospects mess up, they implode and they need a chance to gather themselves. Better they get that out of the way in the minors so we dont deal with what happened to Hughes and Kennedy this year. They never experienced failure, and they couldnt’ get themselves back together. Plus, 30 innings is not enough to prove ready for the next levle.
“Billy Traber has been recalled from Scranton. He comes equipped with a new slider”..
Wow Wee! Lefties hitting .283 against him at AAA. Betcha he’ll be lights out against Dunn Griffey!
I’m really happy to see Traber back up here. He has looked really good in the minors of late, and didn’t get much of a chance in the majors because of his DL stint. Hopefully he can be a quality pitcher out of the Yanks bullpen.
Kevin
Igawa cost the team very little in real costs since most of the money invested in signing him was sunk cost and immaterial to the team’s luxury tax obligations. For what he was paid, they were basically hoping for Jaret Wright who could actually throw innings. It hasn’t even been that good, but the money invested is a drop in the bucket.
Moeller will be DFA’d here very shortly, as Chris Stewart is already at Scranton (and is on the 40 man) in a worst case scenario.
I believe either Gardner or Jason Lane will be brought up to take this spot. Gardner acts as a speed guy off the bench, and can spell Melky in CF. Lane can play the corner OF, as well as 1st Base.
We shall see.
Technically, Igawa’s contract is 20 mil. The posting fee does not go to him but rather his Japanese team. He only gets 20
Gardner isnt getting called up Aero.
You dont waste an everyday player because you need speed. Plus, Cashman said Bernie Castro is the guy if we want speed. You don’t hurt Gardner
Gardner will come up when there is a chance for everyday play. That is what I want to see. I am like everyone in that I want to see him just not as a bench player for his speed.
PS Robertson has walked 14 in 26 IP in Scranton. That suggests that he’s either pitching around minor league hitters, or unable to throw strikes consistently.
Is there really a point in letting him pitch once or twice out of the New York bullpen at home? At best, he gets two or three innings in. At worst, he’s exposed, walks four or five guys, or has a week that hampers his development.
Pavano’s contract isn’t smaller than Igawa’s. The Yanks paid 26 million of that 46 million total just to talk to Igawa. His actual contract is only 20 million.
Nobody is ever guaranteed when you sign them to a contract. Well, nothing is guaranteed about a player, period. That has been proved countless times in baseball.
The Japanese leagues are a bit of an unknown in the US, but the guy was dominant in Japan. That is why they signed him. They knew they weren’t going to get anything like Dice-K, but it was their response to that signing and their wanting to fill a void in the rotation. How was signing Igawa out of Japan much different than signing the young 16-year-olds out of the Latin countries? You never know how they will pan out! Every team makes its mistakes. The Yanks made a big one.
Mike Hampton’s 8 year/121 million is far worse
Bernie Castro is injured, so if they need speed and want to call it from the minors right now, it’d have to be Gardner.
I think Gardner is “ready” and should be a call-up as soon as possible. Matsui should be perm DH, Giambi at 1st. Gardner would play semi-regularly in CF, and to spell others in the OF (Provided he could play the corners)
They’ll just argue that Pavano and Hampton’s contracts weren’t worse because they’d be pitching if they weren’t injured.
Y not Threets or Robertson WTF!
Isn’t the Omar press conf in 15 mins? Anybody know if it is going to be on TV (SNY)?
Maybe instead of retiring, pettitte could be the lefty reliever next season.
It’s kind of hard to recall a guy who doesn’t even belong to your team.
ESPN will probably be broadcasting the news conference.
Put it this way. These two men have identical WHIPs (within 0.01):
Kei Igawa
David Robertson
The stats from 26 IP are not adequate to have predictive value. We know he has good stuff because he Ks a lot of guys and because he’s hard to hit. But down in Scranton, even old Kei gives up less than a hit an inning. We need to know why Robertson has nearly 3/5 of Igawa’s walks in only 3/10 the innings.
call me crazy, but igawa could very well be a #4 or #5 guy, just not on the yankees. and you can’t sign a #4/5 for $4M anymore. it’s the way it is now.
personally, i think his failures have had a lot to do with the change in culture, and in addition, the extra pressure of NY (but that is not an excuse). go do a youtube search on him and watch him in the japanese league. he really looks like a different person. relaxed, seems to be having fun, and actually seems like a leader.
SNY will have it, and I am sure Mike and the Dog will have the audio.
just saying- just stop saying!
“Forgive me, but who has been a worse free agent signing that Kei Igawa?
You can’t say Pavano. If he wasn’t injured, he would be in the major leagues pitching right now. He started opening day last year and his contract is for less money than Igawa’s.”
Well I never said where Igawa’s signing ranks but it is obviously a bad signing. Definitely not the worse however. Denny Neagle and Mike Hampton have something to say about that. Barry Zito will soon join them. But anyway, I’m talking about the validity of signing him. Dick K had no track record either. He pitched nearly 200 innings last year. Hideki Matsui had no track record and he’s done okay over here. Hindsight is always 20/20
“And to compare Igawa to Zito is so far off base. Zito earned the contract with his history in Oakland. Did they overpay? Yes. But at the time he was a free agent he was a known commodity with a successful track record and no indication he was going to go south.”
So then you won’t be bashing Cashman if he signs a known quantity with a proven record who completely bombs? I seriously doubt that.
And by the way Zito has declined steadily since he won his Cy Young award. That contract will go down as the worst ever when it’s all said and done.
“Robertson could easily be added to the 40-man roster by moving Wang, Hughes or Alby to the 60-day DL”
It’s not as easy as it sounds. Let’s say you put Hughes on the 60 day DL and bring up Robertson. Then you have to make room for Hughes on the 40 man roster when he comes back. Which means someone has to DFA’d and clear waivers. You can’t just send Robertson back down, he’d likely be claimed off waivers.
I agree with the previous posters that Traber is being given another shot because if he fails again, he will be released. Then, there’s your roster spot.
I read in an earlier thread that Toronto may listen to offers for Burnett. I went to the MLB trade rumors site and didn’t see this possibility mentioned. Does anyone know anything about this, and if it is true why would Toronto be willing to deal Burnett. I don’t know how he has done against the Yankees, but he is usually tough on the Sox.
Wow some dude from Newsday said they waited at the hotel till 3am local to speak to players, some expressed shock, none said Oh i’m sorry for Willie, none expressed regret. Very Nice classy players.
Bernie Castro is hurt? Since when?
Robertson is on a schedule, he can’t be called up yet.
Robertson is on a schedule, he can’t be called up yet.
“so if they need speed and want to call it from the minors right now, it’d have to be Gardner.”
Justin Christian is just as fast and no one considers him a prospect, so it doesn’t matter if he rots on the bench. That said, carrying worthless bats on the bench is pretty pointless.
(the 121 million value for Hampton includes his ‘09 buyout; from ‘01 to ‘08, he gets 115 million including his signing bonus. For ‘09, there’s a 20 million team option or the 6 million buyout…so 121 mil in the end if he’s bought out as expected)
At starstruck.com you can buy yankees apparel and at the checkout can receive a free dvd with the code: FACE2008.
Didn’t Chris Jennings write on his blog a few days ago about Bernie Castro being hurt?
“Bernie Castro is hurt? Since when?”
Last week sometimes. It was on Jennings’ blog.
Now is the time to keep this hot streak going and make a run for it. Nobody is feeling sympathy for us with Wang out. The Red Sox are playing without Schilling, Matsuzaka, and Colon, Ramirez, and Ortiz now yet they keep winning. We have enough options to hold down the fort for the time being.
Kennedy will be back in a few weeks, Hughes in August, Wang in September. We will have plenty of options from the minors too. Imagine if we can stay close until August and get those reinforcements. Think of a playoff rotation of:
Wang
Pettitte
Chamberlain
Hughes/Mussina
That’d be pretty deadly with our bullpen and lineup shaping up as they have.
In 2004 we had Brown out and Vazquez struggling mightily, yet we made the playoffs with a patchwork staff and were 3 outs away from the world series.
In 2005, Wang, Pavano, and Wright were all out at the same time along with Mussina, yet with patching it together with the likes of Small and trades for Leiter and Chacon, we came 1 game away from advancing into the championship series and won the division on the 2nd to last day of the season in Fenway.
In 2006, we lost Sheffield AND Matsui until late August/early September. Johnson was getting hit around to the tune of a 5.00+ ERA and Jaret Wright and Pavano were out as usual. Yet we didn’t give up when we lost 2 of our biggest clutch offensive players. We made a good trade for Abreu and Lidle, swept Boston in 5, and got beaten by a surprising Detroit team in the playoffs.
In 2007, we lost Hughes and Pavano in their 2nd starts and Giambi, our best hitter in April, went down with a foot injury. Along with this, our entire lefty portion of the lineup was struggling until July and we were in fact .500 essentially at the all star break. We had no set up man we could rely on. Yet we played .700 ball and made the playoffs, and were a few midges away from maybe making it out of the first round.
This season is hardly over. We will get Wang back in September, just in time for the playoff run, and since nobody is running away with it this year, we are right up there near the top of the wild card yet again. We’ve weathered Posada and A-Rod, a much tougher stretch than losing a guy every 5th day, especially with the depth of pitching in our minor league system. Albaladejo and Bruney are out, yet Ramirez and Veras have filled their roles and even done better than they have. A testimony to our incredible depth. The season as it will be until August or September starts tonight, but there is no way we are done and in fact I think that we will hold our own and have our full team together for the playoffs, where we will be a dangerous opponent.
I doubt that the Jays would deal within their own division…
Castro pulled up lame going into 2nd on a double late last week.
Ray: Yankees won’t trade for Burnett–you don’t trade within your own division.. Bbesides, Burnett has a long, long injury history.
I am going to start the Aaron Harang movement the Yanks need to get this guy. He would be alot cheaper than C.C. and I know everyone says that they wont trade him but for an IPK or Horne who can start very soon I think they would. I believe that they would love a young rotation and thats already in progress with Cueto and Volquez so why not shed salary and pick up a couple of pitchers who can start right away and were total studs in the minors?
Yeah, you guys don’t excel in roster management. It’s a different discipline from talent evaluation.
And for the record, Kei could definitely be a serviceable #5 starter. It would be as simple as pitching lower in the zone and lowering the terrible walk rates at the MLB level. He didn’t get hit as hard as you might think last year, and when he did, it was largely a function of pitching up and pitching from behind in the count.
Whether or not he ever gets the ball down will be an open question. But if you can sign me a league average 5th man for $4 million, be my guest.
Christian has an 85% success rate. If you want a pinch runner to let rot on the bench, there’s your guy.
RSM-
What are you talking about Robertson has options he can be sent down without going through waivers
“I am going to start the Aaron Harang movement the Yanks need to get this guy. He would be alot cheaper than C.C”
Why would he be cheaper? He’s under team control through 2011 at pretty reasonable prices for a proven, reliable, GOOD starter.
Stop looking at guys in a vacuum. Look at them in terms of their contract. Harang is a WAAAAAY more attractive trade target than CC.
>>Christian has an 85% success rate. If you want a pinch runner to let rot on the bench, there’s your guy.
Robertson’s stuff is nasty and moves a ton which results in some high walk totals. His control has been better as of late.
“What are you talking about Robertson has options he can be sent down without going through waivers”
If they wanted to get him off the 40-man, they’d have to pass him through waivers. That was the context there…moving someone to the 60-day DL to get Robertson onto the 40 man means needing to open a 40-man slot when that player is ready to come off the 60-day.
Rebecca–Optimist Prime–Mission 2708
June 17th, 2008 at 4:53 pm
Ray: Yankees won’t trade for Burnett–you don’t trade within your own division.. Bbesides, Burnett has a long, long injury history.
Rebecca….does this mean that we can’t trade Lugo to you guys for Arod?? Just kidding!!!!!
ok gotcha
But Robertson will be up here at some point either this season or next season
Well so far no one will ever confuse Omar with Cash.
I’m an avid Cashman supporter, but he seems extremely slow when it comes to cutting ties with mediocre players/calling up guys performing well in AAA. Calling up Traber makes absolutely no sense at all when you have a guy like Robertson completely schooling AAA hitters.
This move is extremely puzzling.
he looks like he is going to pee in his pants
Ray: Sorry man.
Didn’t think it was fair to the team to have his job status hanging over the team.
Um very easy you tell the team, that he is the manager for the year.
“When he was signed he was signed to be a back end of the rotation starter for 4 million a year.”
$4 mill a year plus close to $30M posting fee. It was a disasterous and somewhat reactionary signing that does not appear to be at all logical.
I agree, Jennifer – he’s a terrible speaker and he’s not really making any sense
I don’t bash Cashman for Pavano. Everyone in the league was going to sign him.
Did I love Pavano before we signed him? No. I didn’t see him as a pitcher worth the cost, but I never said it was Cashman’s fault for how he panned out.
He wouldn’t have been one of my top picks in the free agent pool though.
Igawa is more of an organizational failure. When you have Ted Lilly willing to come here and wanting to come here and you pick a guy from Japan when Japanese pitchers have been much more hit and miss than position players and on top of it, you bank on the guy to be in your rotation, it’s a bad job. There is no other way to put it.
Lilly historically pitches very well in the AL East. He handles the Red Sox and when he pitched against Toronto with the Cubs recently he pitched a great game. He’s not a #1, but he’s 3-5 depending on performance since he K’s a good number of guys.
He also wanted to be a Yankee again. I think Torre had a huge hand in stopping that, but Cashman went along with it and signed off on Igawa who may never show a dividend at the major league level.
The moves I bash Cashman for are Igawa, Farnsworth, Kevin Brown (which may have been George’s move, I don’t know) and the plan for this off season which included the 2 kid pitchers as rotation givens. Those are my major gripes with the guy who seems to have done a 180 in how this team does business.
I support building up the farm to help the team and use as trade chips, but I don’t support putting all your faith in the farm since historically more prospects fail than succeed.
As for Hampton and Neagle being worse than Igawa, those are close. Maybe they’re worse, I don’t know. I just think 46 million for a guy (no matter how you chop up the money they spent as sunk costs) that cannot pitch in the major leagues is one of the all time worst moves in baseball.
He doth protest too much about whose decision it was…
Omar’s press conference is on now.
He’s speaking on a LAA podium and in front of LAA logo wall papers b/c he’s using the Angels’ press room. So weird.
He’s taking full responsibility for the firing decision, he emphasized this repeatedly. He said he decided not to leave Willie hanging.
Its like he is repeating everything he says.
Omar sounds insanely nervous
He is scared to death.
Ray,
The jays seem to still be in the race, but it’s probably because Burnett can opt out of his contract at the end of this year. P.S. He kills the Yankees
Does Omar always sound so defensive? The questions haven’t even started.
minaya is a moron
Omar looks so scared. He knows he’s next to go.
Omar isnt acting soo strange… He is gonna get royaly screwed with the press
I want everyone who is defending Igawa to look at some tape. He does not have the ability to keep the ball low in the zone it is impossible for him. If he could do that then maybe he is a 5 but he has yet to do that and the reason why his numbers at SWB are solid is because minor league hitters for the most part cannot hit breaking stuff. He does have a good change but up here in the AL East that high change isnt swung on and missed its put in the seats. That is the truth about Igawa and the reason he was good in Japan is because most Japanese hitters are not much better than AAA hitters, with a few exceptions and those exceptions come to the states. Ichiro, Matsui, Johjima, Iwamura, Fukudome these are guys who were the elite hitters in Japan and unfortunately for Japanese pitchers they rarely face the best anymore. This domination of inferior hitters inflates Japanese pitchers stats with a few rare exceptions Dice-K, Nomo in his prime Japanese pitching talent doesnt translate here.
Man… Omar is making a fool out of himself right now. How many times is he going to say that it’s his decision…
“Calling up Traber makes absolutely no sense at all when you have a guy like Robertson completely schooling AAA hitters.”
Or, maybe, Cash is a bit more cognizant of the fact that 25 or so innings at AAA (with a bunch of walks) does not indicate that a player is ready for the bigs — as well as the attendant tradeoffs of roster management issues.
As for Traber…the AAA pitching staff has been so thrashed by callups and injuries that both Heath Phillips and Billy Traber have been called upon for multiple multi-inning outings, and not just LOOGY work. Traber’s splits against lefties are uninspiring, but he HAS thrown well over his last 10 outings (13.1 IP) 13K’s, 3 BB, 3 ER, 15 H.
Maybe he doesn’t make sense as a LOOGY, but maybe he makes sense as a decent middle reliever.
Who is this ‘Wooly’ he keeps mentioning? Sounds like Wooly was the scapegoat. At least Omar admitted that.
“And then I said, ‘Willie.’ Because, you know, Willie and I talk. We talked. I said, ‘Willie.’”
Man, does he know how to say anything other than, “I said to Willie…” He is a terrible speaker…
Liar Liar pants on fire
I reviewed all those areas,, and then i reviewed some more
gayle— HA!!!
I can’t believe this guy actually doesn’t see anything wrong wtih the way he did this….he didn’t want to leave him hanging?!?!?!? He’s been dangling like a worm on a hook for WEEKS
Since it was your call, then your the ass hole who fired Willy in the most awful way possible.. You should be ashamed of your actions
Man this press conference performance will get Omar himself fired even faster. He looks utterly incompetent.
Omar is reviewing the overall review of the eval-review-uation.
Dee–
it truly is amazing the Mets knew about this press conference since last night (early this AM). They very easily could have gone to Kinos as soon as it opened this Am and gotten a logo for the podium as well as logo backdrop. Looks very lame that they have this with the Angels logo behind them.
he’s tap dancing, not really saying anything..has he never learned to let the people ask the question before you answer it?
ARX
Totally right!
I think J.B. Cox, when he comes off the DL, will be a better option. He’s not a strikeout machine, but his numbers are excellent.
ok so now it is the media’s fault he got fired in the middle of the night.
Wow whomever briefed him for this press conference did a horrible job.
I guess the environment made his decision not his brain
We’re working on not releasing information. I love it Omar.
gayle,
Well, they want to make it appear that even though it was Omar’s decision, it’s actually the Angels who are the bad guys.
What was ‘Mike’ right about?
Is Johan Santana second guessing himself for saying yes to a deal with the Mets or will his contract make him get over the fiasco he’ll see unless dealt elsewhere ???
Igawa got paid to be a #4/#5 (and failed miserably)
Hampton got paid like a #1 among #1’s….and has pitched in fewer games than Pavano has since 2005. That’s just beyond failing miserably.
Has Omar ever had to conduct a press conf on a less than easy topic? He’s terrible at it
This is like the Clemens @ Congress fiasco.
Wang is incredibly mature. I’m glad he’s a Yankee.
i can’t say that Willie would be the manager for the rest of the year cause if we lost 15 in a row, he wouldn’t. um okay!
But now he can say that Jerry will be the manager for the rest of the year. That makes a lot of sense.
“I think J.B. Cox, when he comes off the DL, will be a better option.”
’strue. And poor Chris Britton is eligible to come off the DL tomorrow. I wonder if he’s ready, and if they’ll just send him right back to AAA if he is. I would like to see Hawk shipped out to make room for Britton or Cox as soon he as can be. I may also like to see Ollie sent to AAA to get back in the rhythm of short relief, and work on his splitter…if someone down there is still making a case to come to the bigs.
Guys Omar loves Willie Randolph.
Gayle,
All I know is the LA Angels are firing some guy named Wooly, and it’s this gray-haired guy’s decision and his decision alone…
I have to leave work, but this sounds sooo good.
Don’t expect a Christmas card from your friend, Willie.
If we had a ‘Wooly’ or ‘aksed’ drinking game, we’d all be passed out by now.
Ok now it has gotten absurd. if the Mets lost 15 in a row that is why Omar could not say that Willie was the manager for the entoire year but he is proclaiming that Manuel will be the manager for the entire year no matter what.
Bottom line they should have gotten rid of Willie at the end of last year for better or for worse.
Now Omar brings up the whole racial thing god this is just so bad there really are no words.
Ohh, he’s going to paint himself into a corner.. Oh he just did it.
Soo he choose Willy casue he was an African American when he decided to hire the new Mets Manager.. WHy cant Omar say Willy was not getting the best out of our players..
Dee – too funny…
Now he says that he hired Willie because he is black…
Oh, Cot’s Contracts lists Colorado as the one who’s paying Hampton’s buyout of next year; why’s that?
George W Bush can talk circles around Omar. OK. OK. OK. OK.
Now race doesn’t matter. I didn’t want to bring this back up but… yeah i do think that Omar especially goes after Hispanic players.
I wouldn’t ask Omar Minaya to take out my garbage much less make personnel decisions for me.
He’s a 2nd class hoot for a general manager.
Someone get Omar another bottle of water.
This is a “we” decision? I thought he was saying it was his decision?
He pulled the race card? Oh, here we go again. Let me guess. Somehow this is MLB’s fault now.
He has to be the manager of the year or he’s not going to be the manager? Gee, that’s fair.
Everyone who complains about Cashman’s vanilla press conferences and public statements, particularly about his ability to speak words and say nothing much should really listen to Omar’s press conference.
The Met’s public face and public relations as an organization are just mind bogglingly awful. From Jeff Wilpon to Omar – just terrible in the public spotlight.
Anytime they have to say anything they just make it worse for the team. Omar just sounds awful – unsure of himself, defensive, halting and dodging questions.
It’s hard to believe the mets could be so bad at this kind of thing after so many years of going through similar kinds of things in new york.
I’ll take vanilla over evasive and panicked any day. No way any mets fan can have any confidence in the GM, ownership or organization after listening to this pack of nervous lies.
“I don’t believe in firing a manager at a game in uniform.”
Yeah, so sending out an email and firing him at midnight my time is the perfect way to handle it.
So do the Cashman haters hate Hal, too, for not being pro-active?
“I don’t believe in firing the manager at the game in uniform.”
So firing him after a win, at the hotel, at midnight like a thief in the night is much better? Gotcha. This is pure comedy gold here.
That would be more disrespect to fire him in uniform, but its fine we couldn’t fire him Sunday, and I came to my “decision” Monday morning. Omar your doing “great”
“If only Willie would have just ageed to be called Guillermo, he would still have a job” -Omar Minaya
CB,
He looks like a chronic in rehab. I’m expecting him to start picking at his skin at any moment.
OK good one Omar now challenge the media to check the facts of what he is saying. Why do I think that for some reason this will turn even worse very very soon?
lol, Al Sharpton!
Where’s Anna Benson when you need her?
Omar Minaya is the quintessential stick your foot in your mouth general manager.
There’s Double A GM’s that have a better handle on a team than Minaya has.
He can’t talk his way out of a Shop-Rite brown paper bag.
Omar does have a point. He sent that e-mail @ midnight. Not 3 in the morning.
That makes it a little better.
Omar just rose to his level of incompetency.
He has no business being a ML GM. He isn’t good at it.
Not at building a ballclub nor as acting as the face or voice of a franchise.
He may be a nice guy but, so are clubhouse attendants.
That doesn’t mean they are fit to be general managers.
y’all supposed to be big willie, y’all ackin kinda silly.
Can Willie throw out the first pitch next Friday afternoon vs the Mets?
OMG this is too funny!
“The fact is, OK, the biggest fan of Wooly Randolph, is Omar MinAAAYA, OK?”
Well, he sent it at 3 am ET, but it was midnight out here in the West.
Mel,
This is just cringe inducing to listen to. Its one of those things where its just embarrassing to be part of even as a listener. Just completely humiliating all around.
We take being yankee fans for granted way too much. The mets have an enormous payroll, a cable network and a new stadium on the way.
And this is the best they can do for their fans. The best face they can offer the public.
Omar’s evasiveness is only going to make this worse. This is not a finished issue and this press conference only makes things worse.
This could engulf their entire season. Could get better under Manuel. But it’s going to be clear to everyone that Omar’s not in control and the players will sense that.
The players are listening to this. Can’t be inspiring any confidence.
Hey, that would be a fun idea. I’m all for Willie throwing out the first pitch.
ok here we go again liar liar pantson fire.Tony B was tlaking with Manuel before Willie got fired.
Pete, I honestly hope Hoffman gets his one on one with Mo. They are both tremendous closers and assets to the game. Please let us know if it happens.
Steph,
I was just kidding. A little poke at the person, with their east coast bias.
Even “Iron Mike” Tyson is cooler than Minaya.
He’s ready to bite a sportwriter’s ear off at this press conference and he doesn’t even have a full contingent of writers out in L.A.
“You ask the questions, I’ll give you the answer to the best of my ability.”
That’s not a promising response given how this wreck is going…
Happy Tuesday.
I have always been pretty apathetic about the Mets even though ‘86 was difficult. I now despise the organization. I posted a few weeks ago that I was ticked when the Mariners fired their hitting coach in Toronto a day and a half away from traveling back to Seattle after a long road trip. This is much, much worse. The Subway series will now be a moral challenge but I will pull for the Yanks. I hate the Mets. In fact I “Trisha” hate the Mets now…
Have a good night. -dennis
not sure if this was mentioned in the earlier section ( i am sure it has been)
get rid of bobby m. and bring willie in to coach 3rd base!!!!
how great would that be
“He’s actually blaming the media, saying the atmosphere around the team forced him to fire the manager.”
It is a lousy excuse to give on the part of Omar.
But truth of the matter is there is some truth to that statement. Some memebers of the media are totally irresponsible and they will do nay thing to sell papers. There is no accountability.
Haha, well, I guess dear Omar got caught up in the technicalities of the time zones:)
steiiny finally has figured it out, buying high priced guys or selling the farm for talent DOES NOT WORK.
Randolph got screwed but he in the long run will be better off, the management did not back him.. Minaya could have put this all to rest a long time ago but did not..
I would not be against getting Arroyo/fat guys franseccas love child if the price was relatively cheap and fair…
the offense needs to carry the team until hughes or Wng come back….
You know what the funny thing is (well not that funny). If only Omar had done this over the weekend and ot in the middle of the night under a clouod of suspicion this press conference would have been totally different and not so confrontational.
What an idiot in terms of media relations or at least not seeing further how he did the firing would mean as much as IF he did the firing.
Wooly Wooly Wooly
Wang sounds really disappointed you can tell he loves to compete. Trevor Hoffman sounds like a gentleman, just like Mariano. Hal Steinbrenner should give us an example of these “young guys” that everyone loves to mention. Hughes- out til August,IPK- rehabbing out til July(likely), Horne- Just got back into games a few weeks ago not close, McCutchen-Not ready,Aceves- Not at all ready,Igawa- Nuff said, Giese-NOT a “young guy”, he’s a journeyman. Who exactly are these “young guys” Hal and Hank are referring to, they should review the minor league roster before they start bragging about their “internal options”. There is no one ready to pitch in the Bronx until after the ASB, I guess a month of Dan Giese is a fair replacement for CMW.
Not only is Omar a clown, he’s a dumb clown.
How come no one has asked why Alomoar was kept and the first base coach was let go
Meanwhile, I went to the Padres clubhouse to speak to Trevor Hoffman for my Sunday column. What a tremendous guy. We got to talking about Mariano Rivera and here’s what he said:
“It’s an honor to be mentioned in the same sentence as that man. I have tremendous respect for him. I’m hoping that sometime in the next three days I can shake his hand and tell him that.â€
How great is that?
That absolutely made my day.
Wooly ok Wooly ok Wooly ok Wooly ok …
Maybe that’s the problem, Omar, you keep hiring from within is like inbreeding.
al take a pill…
Horne is a legit prospect and they have others…sorry replacing your #1 starter is not a simple thing to do, at least not in the real world.. in fantasy baseball it is a move away but this is not fantasyland…
The Wilpons need to send a security guard in that conference room and carry Omar off the stage asap. He is one step away from offering his opinions on whether OJ did it.
Huh, Willie is ‘Wooly’ in espanol as well.
How sweet. He thought about it on Sunday night and wanted to sleep on it. He felt bad about firing his friend.
Watching this Omar press conference-I feel like I need to shower
So much garbage being spewed..someone call a garbage removal company
I need to learn spanish so badly….I picked up the words ‘easy, friend, manager’….thats about it :/
Eh, I summarized what he said in Spanish.
raymagnetic,
I agree with your statement about Kei. Hindsights 20/20. As much as i hate watching him pitch and never want to mr. sunglasses pitch here again. It wasnt an obvious mistake when we signed him. His career era was only a half run higher than Dice k. Strikeout champ,young and a lefty for half the price of Dice. It was either sign him or Lilly which was havnt injuries as of late. Also would have been more of a hit on the luxury tax.
We should have Randolph be an honery coach on the A.L. team. Wearing of coarse the pinstripes.
Is “ax” a word? As in, if you “ax” me?
It’s only a matter of time – Omar’s going to get fired and they are going to blow this team up yet again.
How many times can the Wilpon’s reside over this kind of mess.
It’s the same pattern over and over and over. And they just don’t get it.
The one constant through all of these disasters is the ownership. Everything else changes – the pieces move – but there is no difference.
$140 million payroll and this is what they have to show for themselves.
The GM letting th public now what the definition of the word “perception” is.
Your summary wasnt on the page when I hit ‘post’
It’s classic Mets psychodrama. They’ve been doing this for 40 years.
Manuel looks shellshocked.
Haha, whoops. Next time, I’ll transcribe everything as they say it:)
That’s it?! That was so much fun.
I want to hear Steve Phillips’ reax.
And is the first time in history that a new manager was introduced in front on another team’s backdrop?
Stuart- I’m just saying they are acting like there is a Joba type guy waiting in the wings but there isnt. Alan Horne is very legit I have followed him for years but you and I know that he needs at least 6 weeks of starts to be ready for a tour in pinstripes.
“In fact I “Trisha†hate the Mets now…”
Dennis your trisha in diquise? Man i would have never guessed with all the i hate the sux comments trisha used to write.
I love the Manuel Omar pictures being taken.
Maybe the Mets need to be under the leadership of the great Steve Phillips again. They deserve each other.
Jerry Manuel is a good guy. This is going to turn out very badly for him as well.
The vultures in the Mets front office are going to destroy him as well.
After this fiasco how is Omar going to every be able to personally hire a top flight manager to replace Manuel at the end of this season?
How is any big name manager, the kind the Wilpon’s will crave, going to sign on to this? How will anyone tie themselves to Omar’s fate?
S.o.S.27.
LOL. I was just trying to show how much bias I will now show vs. the Mets from here on out. I feel awful for Randolph and Peterson…
Have a good night. -dennis
pete a lot of pregame updates. you take the adderrall today? hah
agreed that this press conference is a joke
Yeah!- Trolls are not welcome here. Sorry that the Mets have no shot of making the playoffs.
here is the problem.
if omar is fired.. that just creates another attractive option for Cashman at the end of the season.
we should all hope omar stays
Yeah!- If you have to troll you could at least try being creative. Unlike some other trolls you are not entertaining at all.
“I hope Joba blow up his arm from the bottom of my heart.”
Dude learn to speak English and how to use grammar. “Sesame Street” is very helpful as is “Reading Rainbow”
I wonder what Mike “the Mets will take over the city” Lupica thinks about this – can you imagine the press reaction if the Yankees had done this.
Al from BK,
Its funny to here everyone wanting to pull the trigger on C.C. or Bedard. When last week i was argueing about Wang being an ACE. In the end of the arguement it almost sounded like Wang wasnt better than a 3. In that case we really dont have much to replace. Right fellas? Hell Arroyo might suffice.
We will be just fine. Our minor league system will keep us affloat. Once the trading deadline comes. Im sure we will pick up a decent pitcher. Who knows. Maybe Kennedy can find the Kennedy of 07.
Going to the Mets would be an attractive option for Cashman? There are a lot of other teams who could give him a much nicer job as GM without having to deal with the fiasco that is the Mets.
OK I guess we know why Almoar wanst fired now. They had to have talked to Manuel about this then before they fired the other coaches. As he said he has known and is friends with Almoar for along time and is now the bench coach.
Yeah- Why would a 3 year old want a car for Christmas? I have never seen 3 year olds drive. Have you?
YankeeVIP,
I dunno. Cashman’s been part of the Yankee for a looong time. I think he’d go west before he’d go crosstown.
You say what you have to say and sound like a brainless moron.
At least some trolls get my cackles up or are at least fun to hate this guy just isn’t very intelligent. The only thing worse than a troll is a stupid troll.
Yeah! Just in case you are a Sox fan “Yeah” I just need to say as a Sox fan I am not impressed. You have no class.
“Dude learn to speak English and how to use grammar. “Sesame Street†is very helpful as is “Reading Rainbow—
My little one watches “kids sprout”. That might also work.
“WHAT A JOKE YANKEE FANS ARE LIKE THREE YEAR OLD WHO THINK THEY GOING TO GET A CAR FOR CHRISTMAS. KEEP DREAMING…….”
Huh? Hott wheels? Kids Sprout. Try it.
Cashman’s interview with on WFAN was very telling for him.
I think that’s the first time he’s publicly acknowledged that Hank and Hal have approached him and stated their desire to bring him back.
For Cashman to even admit that in public is a big deal.
It looks like its going to be Cashman’s choice. Hank and Hal want him back.
He’s not going anywhere. And forget the Mets. How could any executive or manager every trust Jeff Wilpon?
I never said that the way they let Torre go was classless. It was. Never said the Yankees hadn’t been a fiasco either. You’re picking the straw man, dear.
Is it just me or does it look like David Paterson and Jerry Manuel are long lost twins?
YEAH- The drama of our owner has given the city how many championships again?
So should I be glad I’m not watching Omar’s press conference?
Also, I like the statement from Hal.
Yeah!- You really are stupid. If you paid attention to baseball at all you would know that the Yankees didn’t fire Broadway Joe. They simply offered him a contract that he found less than desirable and Mr. Torre himself decided to leave. Joe Torre wasn’t fired at 3 AM in mid June thats classless.
“And talking about classless firing how about the Yankees fired torre huh?”
Uhhh. He was going to be the highest paid manager in baseball. Go back to your Royals blog. Because even a red rays troll isnt that weak.
Mr talkative Billy Wagner will be on Kay show. That could be interesting
WHAT the hell is Manuel talking about??!! He is CLUELESS…. and very disrespectful of Willie
You should be very glad that you did not watch the Omar portion of the press conference. Manuel doesn’t sound too bad. He speaks coherently, which is definitely a step up from Minaya.
Manuel with a funny joke, but in poor taste on the day that Willie gets fired.
He said that at the end of the season, he’s going to stay in his uniform because Omar said he won’t fire a person in their uni.
What is the statement from Hal?
“You have to feel bad for the kid. The Yankees fought him for $600,000 in arbitration. And now this freak injury will cost him money if they go to arbitration next year.”
Really Pete? We should feel bad for a Multi-Millionaire who might not get another Million next year. Forget about the majority of the country who can barely afford to put gas in their car. Poor CMW.
Does 27 championships win you championships? Oh, where do I start?
FIRE OMAR!!! FIRE OMAR!!! FIRE OMAR!!!
Rebecca,
You have to like everything you’ve heard from Hank, Hal and Cash since Wang’s injury (ok Hank’s tirade against the 19th century NL not so much….). On the baseball specific issues they’ve been right on the mark.
The team is not going to panic. They are not going to make some shortsighted, knee jerk move.
It may take some time but eventually the rest of baseball is going to see that.
The team is in very good hands right now. Too much bluster from Hank but on issues of substance they’ve been right on the mark.
Yeah!
June 17th, 2008 at 5:53 pm
I don’t have to be creative I say what I wan’t to say.
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Yes. Typical N.E. education. Dumb as a bag of hammers.
CB: I agree. The worst possible thing they can do is try to make a panic move right now, and it’s great to see that they’re not doing that.
I don’t think the way the Yankees offered Torre a choice was classless. In fact I think he was lucky to get offered that choice seeing the Yankees hadn’t gone very far in the playoffs for quite a while. Because Joe thought he was untouchable or deserved a ton of money for not producing was on him, not on the Yankees.
Looks like they made a good choice offering him less. His record in LA is nothing to crow about.
“Hahahahaha….Yeah you’ll have won 27 championships I give you that. But does 27 championships win you championships?????????…….”
Congratulations!! You have won “The Dumbest Post of the Year Award”! 3 words for you. Hooked on Phonics.
Man, I would have loved to hear that conversation. Do you have audio of Moose on his food?
Go Moose!!!!
It is amazing that it has taken this long for him to find the love with fans but glad he finally has it.
Yeah! = container full of rear ends
Yeah!
Don’t hold back. Tell us how you really feel.
Funny stuff from the Moose
“Just spoke to Brian Cashman. The Yankees are very, very, very intrigued with Alfredo Aceves and his potential as a starter. But they want to see him in AAA first. “At least a small sample,†Cashman said.”
Interesting
omar on the wfan wow got tv and radio going at the same time.Wagner having Willie’s back. Omar will not
Wait, he had to win to to get the ice cream BACK? why take it away? such awful working conditions
“Don Vito A. Bellamo
June 17th, 2008 at 6:07 pm
Yeah! = container full of rear ends”
Vito……this is a historic moment……..I agree with you!
Just forget the mets trolls. They’re going to leave this blog and then they are going to have to go back to the disaster that is the reality of their team.
They’re going to have more Omar press conferences to bumble through in the future.
More press conferences announcing the hiring of a manager in front of the emblem of another team. What an embarrassment. The New York Mets of Anaheim.
That they’re trolling here at the same time their GM and new manager are speaking speaks volumes.
It’s just pathetic all around.
I is a flippin’ dingle man and I’s gonna tell ya dat yer team is not es goode as mine team ./.which ihn kase u dunt no, iss the Bahstin Red socks guyz….derrr…hold on, I keep drewling inta the keybord…
How can Kay have Wagner on and not ask about the firing of the pitching coach and what effect if any that will have. I mean he is talking to the closer on the team one would think the pitching coach and relationship would mean something.
ray…I love you, man !
“There is no one ready to pitch in the Bronx until after the ASB”
No one’s looking to trade useful pitching right now ANYWAY. So it’s a moot point until the break anyway.
Yeah, We might not be here in 20 years.
“Am talking from a freaking cell phone, I probably have more education than you punk.”
1.Time to change your carrier.
2.Can you here me now?
3.What does that have to do with you not making any damn sense.
4.Your too easy.
5.Mommy wants her phone back.
6.Ohh yeah!! 1980’s called. They want their word back(punk).
Yeah!
Yankee fans didn’t fire Willie. Why so much venom?
CB-You forgot the entire team name. The New York Mets Angels of Anaheim of Los Angeles of California. Did I leave out part of it?
Omar is making the disaster of himself on WFAN now. He made the decision on Monday morning, so why didn’t he fire him, oh, in the morning?
Brilliant.
Listening to Omar on WFAN now…
I feel dirty
derr…i am tahkin un me cell phoner thing and tryin 2 typee in da youu Yankkeez stinkalot, butt I can’t figger it outta dose ….derrr…i’m gunna laff inyer fase yous sukers. whin my teem dus bettir den..derrrrrrr.yer.teams dus…OK, stoooped ??..I meem stupit !,..,.u r alls a boinch of stupits !
Happy to hear MD put him on the spot.
Who is this Yeah! dolt ?…did he really call Pete a Cunk ?
So now it was the faces of the players at seeing Willie being put under the gun is why he fired him? And he can’t figure out another way to do the firing? Come on. He can’t honestly be that stupid. Well, maybe he can.
Love the anecdotes. I think this blog would be even better with more of that and less of the analysis.
I know there are Yankee fans who don’t like Cashman (I’ve had my own issues with him), but let’s thank our lucky stars that he’s not Omar Minaya.
Minaya couldn’t be more abysmal and made a complete fool of himself in that press conference.
Oh boy, now he’s saying that the talk over Willie being fired just really picked up this weekend. He must have been in a coma for more than half a year.
I can’t believe I’m saying this, but good job by Russo with Omar.
Minaya really sounds like a scum bag.
maddog is a loser
Listening to Omar on with Mike and the Mad Dog…I am gonna thank the lord that we have Brian Cashman
Go Russo Go!
“I know there are Yankee fans who don’t like Cashman (I’ve had my own issues with him), but let’s thank our lucky stars that he’s not Omar Minaya.
Minaya couldn’t be more abysmal and made a complete fool of himself in that press conference.”
Absolutely dead-on. Thank you God for Brian Cashman.
Friday- the owernship and I had full support of Willie.
win 3 of 4 games
Early Tuesday morning- fired
“The ice cream is back!” That’s why we come to this board, Pete. Not to hear you whine about how an organization supposedly witheld information from you.
Russo and Francesa are killing Minaya in the interview right now. Rightfully so. Glad he’s not my GM. Made me think about how I really hope Cash signs an extension with us this off-season.
Alfredo Aceves, I love you..
mike and the mad dog are absolutely ripping Omar right now.
Dog is great. Never thought I would say that.
Colon placed on the DL (back)
““I know there are Yankee fans who don’t like Cashman (I’ve had my own issues with him), but let’s thank our lucky stars that he’s not Omar Minaya.
Minaya couldn’t be more abysmal and made a complete fool of himself in that press conference.â€
Absolutely dead-on. Thank you God for Brian Cashman.”"
Thirded.
Maybe with Mussina pitching better without the ice cream and candy he should continue the course instead of loading up on junk food.
“There has never been a time in the history of baseball that a manager hasn’t picked his staff.” When did baseball history start, today?
You gotta love Moose’s dry sense of humor. All we need is a Moose patented 7 seconds of silence after a Kim Jones question after his next start and we will be off and flying.
Whoops, I meant has picked his staff.
Wow – Omar is making no sense not on M&MD
He is making no sense at all.
What the hell is he talking about
Best interview ever by mike and the mad dog. I hate these guys but they’re grilling omar good.
what teams in the majors do not have drama somewhere? haha
Aceves? Why not at this point? I like Giese in the pen and want to see Malancon, Patterson, and Robertson in the Boogie Down by 8/01. Again, we’re playing for ‘09.
Minaya is making himself look REAL foolish. Back peddle, back peddle, back peddle, BOOM. Yup, Omar, that’s the wall. No place to hide. You screwed it up. Have fun looking at the crab grass in Miami.
So why not fire him Monday at breakfast then, Omar?
Folks! We need to focus on this game. We have to keep this streak going. 5 and a half back and sox are playing a formidable opponent. Im a bit worried about the pitching matchups. Seems that we are going against some good pitchers. Wolf,Peavy and Banks? Would you guys be happy with taking 2 of 3?
A front office where everyone agrees with each other loses. A real winner.
Awww, I want audio of the Dennis Miller-riffs! At least paraphrasing? I
Wouldn’t it be hillarious if the Mets deal Santana to the Yankees during the coming blowing up of the Mets? Discounted of course, kind of like A-Rod was. Santana is probably seeing all this and wondering what the heck was I thinking?! I bet he wishes he didn’t sign that contract now.
Why couldn’t he fire him before the game yesterday? He said he woke up with the idea that morning. Willie wasn’t in uniform in the morning, unless those were his night clothes or something…
“Seems that we are going against some good pitchers. Wolf,Peavy and Banks?”
Banks is NOT a good pitcher. Go look him up.
Of course, that means the Yankees will probably make him look like Cy Young. I don’t know what it is, because it’s spanned multiple hitting coaches, but they seem to be hideous against guys they’ve never seen before, regardless of their stuff. Junkballing righties that are always around the plate…they should FEAST on them but they don’t.
“Colon placed on the DL (back)”
Isnt that the same injury that shelfed him in the playoffs against us? I dont know how much that will hurt them. Dice is almost back.
hmmm, lohud ate half my post lol. As I was saying…long live the Moose, and ice cream and Mountain Dew. Go for those donuts next Mike!
I “perceive” that Omar Minaya is a joke of a baseball executive.
and Manuel will be coaching the mets for the rest of the yr, according to Minaya.
Omar is dumb as a box of rocks. Next step Liga de Béisbol Profesional de Puerto Rico once it gets rolling again next winter.
As Yankee fans its very, very easy to just take things for granted.
13 years in a row in the post season – not enough.
Wang gets hurt and people are demanding that they come up with an ace immediately as a more recent example.
You look at what’s happening at Shea, you listen to Omar or you look at what a guy like Bavasi did in Seattle – you just have to be very happy that the yankees have set the organization in the right direction.
I can’t even imagine what Met fans are thinking listening to Omar today.
” Seems that we are going against some good pitchers. Wolf,Peavy and Banks? Would you guys be happy with taking 2 of 3?”
It does seem that way, but somebody posted their home/road splits and the numbers away from Petco are not good, so hopefully it’ll be a little easier than it looks. But yeah, I’d be happy taking 2 out of 3. Just win series, that is always the goal.
I’m not gonna lie though, it would warm my heart so much if we hit Peavy hard. I’ve never liked him probably for the same reasons why I’ve always loved Aaron Harang – one gets way too much credit imo, considering where he pitches and some of his (lackluster) big game performances over the yrs, and the other gets nowhere near enough.
I think Manuel made a good impression in his presser.
Omar is a joke.
I LOVE Mussina. Paul McCartney kind of love (I’ve loved McCartney since I was 6 years old!) Seriously, I think that whole junk-food incentive is truly funny and fun!
You gotta think that Dan Geise is one happy guy, knowing he earned a major league start.
Glad I’m not in the NY Mets organization. Ugh.
I vote that all Yankees fans should mail one candy bar of their choice to the team when Mussina wins his 15th! Let them know we stand behind them, for better or worse, injured or healthy, chocolate-deprived or sugar-laden.
(Might I suggest Baby Ruth’s to remind them of past glory)
Can anyone tell me why Omar’s message to the Mets fans was that Willie was the first black manager in New York.
Does anyone know the relevance?
This series won’t be easy. I hope we see Good Andy and the bats are still alive
Mets fans are not very intelligent, so they are probably upset that Wooly got fired instead of Willie.
CB.
Great point. I was thinking the same thing about being a fan of a well run organization. I also thought about it after hearing Cashman post the Wang injury. Nice to have a plan A, B and C. Imagine being a fan of KC, Balt, Pitts, etc, etc…
Real bad day in Flushing…
Have a good night. -den
“Colon placed on the DL (back)â€
Let’s not forget, once upon a time, this was Sabathia. Eight solid seasons, 200ip+ almost every one, and a Cy Young award. Every argument being used to deflect the risks of a long-term Sabathia signing, just look at Colon.
Omar is trying to cover up for his racist ways. Wooly wasn’t hispanic, Omar wasn’t going to stand for that for long.
Martin it had as much relevance as anything else he said in that press conference.
CB good points. It’s easy to get spoiled when you’ve had so much good for so long and so much of the time. I train myself to back off and not fly off the handle when something goes wrong. It always end up the right way to do it. It probably adds years to my life too.
I just want to say that im spoiled watching Posada hit. You dont appreciate it till you watch our backups swing and missing the ball by 2 feet. Or hit with no power. IMO he probably has one more year behind the plate before he has to move to dh or first. Due to keeping him healthy. I hope one of our youngsters in the minors can bring that pop in their bat as he has. Its a luxury id like to keep.
Had to get that off my chest.
We are neither trading for nor signing Sabathia. Be thankful cooler heads run the Department of Player Acquistion for your favorite baseball team.
Dennis,
You’re exactly right. I could never imagine John Henry/ Lucchino/ Theo ever doing anything remotely like this. Or hiring a guy like Bavasi, etc.
There’s no guarantees in winning any game, never mind the WS. But all you can hope for as a fan is that your team has a rational plan and is committed to it. That the team isn’t run willy nilly.
From a management perspective, the Yanks, Sox and Rays are all being run in a top notch fashion.
The results show on the field.
Don’t know if the team is going to get past losing Wang. But I do believe they aren’t panicking and won’t. They’ll move down a list of options and see how things go.
Schilling gets hurt, Buchholz winds up back in AAA, Dice K has a set back. There’s still a plan in place.
No sense of that at all over at Shea. It’s completely haphazard and reactionary. They’re more concerned about the PR aspects of their decision making than the baseball substance.
How many wins does Mussina have to win to get slim-jims in there?
We are neither trading for nor signing Sabathia. Be thankful cooler heads run the Department of Player Acquistion for your favorite baseball team.
Hear hear.
“Every argument being used to deflect the risks of a long-term Sabathia signing, just look at Colon.”
Except Bartolo’s 7 inches shorter and has always needed more effort to throw hard. So…the situations aren’t THAT comparable.
The Yankees are playing for 2009? Really?
Somebody better tell the Yankees because they are only 4 games out of first place in the loss column on June 17.
They are playing for THIS year. They won’t sacrifice the future for this year but, they also aren’t shutting down the year because Wang got hurt.
Omar is an embarrassment. A guy who stepped on a lot of people and sucked up to a lot of columnists in town, to gain his “rep”.
Today, it all ended for him.
You judge leaders in times of crisis. Omar failed on all counts. That press conference was an embarrassment.
Met trolls on this blog? As laughable as Omar’s PC today.
If I was a Mets fan, I’d worry more about my own team than the Yankees.
This is the last baseball GM job Omar will ever have.
Back to scouting after the Wilpon’s blow him out of this gig.
Ironically, Tony Bernazard will back stab Omar just like he did Willie. Its in Tony’s DNA. He can’t help himself.
He wants to be the GM and since he’s attached to Jeff Wilpon’s hip, its only a matter of time before he gets the gig.
Colon got hurt swinging the bat last night. Another pitcher injured by doing something he isn’t used to doing.
confusious: Exactly. No long-term contract, to Colon. I mean, Sabathia.
CB.
Well said. Folks should be more concerned with the product than the marketing. In the oil business we call it painting the pig when you put the spin before the substance.
Omar was power painting the pig this afternoon. I felt like I was watching Big Brown’s trainer blame the jockey…
-dennis
FYI: Aceves is pitching tonight in Harrisburg for Trenton if folks want to follow his start.
I believe gametime is 7 pm.
Steve Sommers with the line of the day,
“James Dolan never looked so good.”
lets go yankees!!!!!!!!!!!
The Yanks BETTER not throw 1 good pitch to hit to Gonzalez. He is their offense. If the Yanks let him beat them then they really are pathetic. You don’t need to look at scouting reports to know that. Girardi pitch around him, not like how you pitched to Manny,..
SJ,
Im glad to here your optimism. I was waiting for the Yankees to be at the magical 5 games over .500. Your 3 hours early. But im not complaining. We will be fine without Wang. The offense is looking potent since Posada came back. Arod hasnt gone on that amazing tear yet. I think Geise will do well Saturday. Small and Chacon take 2.
I have a general question for hte blog. How often to NL pitchers take BP? Is it 1/5 as much as the position player? The reason I’m asking is that you rarely hear of an oblique strain for a NL guy, but seemingly much more often for the AL. A prime example would be Tim Hudson.
Does anyone know what pitches Aceves throws? Is he a hard thrower?
After watching Minaya and his press conference, I have even more of an appreciation of Brian Cashman and the Steinbrenners.
Let’s go Yankees. A chance to go to 5 over .500 tonight.
If Aceves has another good start at AAA I think they might promote him to Scranton.
Until he gets up to AAA it’s tough to know what you have.
That said, it sounds like he might be a legitimate back of the rotation guy.
Everything you hear is that he knows how to pitch. Doesn’t have great stuff but a low 90’s fastball and 4 pitches might be enough.
He also has a lot of experience pitching in the Mexican league.
Wouldn’t it be great if the yanks could fill Wang’s spot in the rotation with a guy they found by data mining performances in the mexican league.
They have a $200 M payroll but they are leaving absolutely no stone unturned trying to find talent. Amateur draft, international signings, rule V draft, international league, Mexican league, Israeli league and China.
SOS,
Its a tough team to figure out. This is a big homestand for them. They have to load up the wins against bad teams at home. That’s going to be key.
At some point, they will fill Wang’s spot in the rotation. If Giese can get them to the AS Break splitting his 4 starts in Wang’s spot, that’s all you can ask of the guy.
In the meantime, they are going to have to hit. I mean, get back to the 968 run offense they were last year.
If they can do that, it gives Cashman some time to make a logical deal.
“If Aceves has another good start at AAA I think they might promote him to Scranton.”
Meant to write if Aceves has another good start at AA…
CB,
Do you see them calling up Aceves before Horne? Who do you think has the better make up for the bigs?
Go Phillies
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....p;c_id=mlb
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Schilling has setback, returns to Boston
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The wheels are FLYING off the BoSux Wagon !
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http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....p;c_id=mlb
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Colon goes on DL with back problem
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FLYING !!!
“If Aceves has another good start at AAA I think they might promote him to Scranton.”
Huh?
Our “Department of Player Acquisition” means nothing if Hank decides he wants CC. I won’t be surprised if Hank pulls a power play like his father and swoops the big guy up.
Maybe Hal could talk him out of it.
If we could get CC at 4 years 80 mil guaranteed and then team options for a couple more years so the agent can say it’s a 120-40 mill contract then I think its a good deal.
CC will hold up fine the next 4 years.
“Meant to write if Aceves has another good start at AA…”
Oh. A lot of scouts are really high on this guy. Anyone see him pitch?
what ?
I’m really looking forward to f***ing Michael Kay rehashing the Wang injury six ways to Sunday…kind of like the incessant Joba pitch count references in his first and second start…
Staten Island Yankees start their season tonight. Pat Venditte is on the roster which should be cool to see.
John Flaherty’s hair…what is going on!!???!?
Is there a place we can follow Aveces’ start?
Glad that his great year on the mound has brought a return of Mike Mussina’s wonderful sense of humor. My brother, who lives 15 miles from Camden Yards had always told me about it, and now we are the beneficiaries here in NY. Don’t know if Mike will want another year though………
Our “Department of Player Acquisition†means nothing if Hank decides he wants CC. I won’t be surprised if Hank pulls a power play like his father and swoops the big guy up.
If you’ve been paying attention the Department of Player Acquisition continues to have their way with Hank.
CC ain’t happening.
“If we could get CC at 4 years 80 mil guaranteed and then team options for a couple more years so the agent can say it’s a 120-40 mill contract then I think its a good deal.”
Do you really see this as even a remote possibility? 4 guaranteed and 3 team options–not even player options–for the #1 rated FA pitcher on the market next winter?
SoS,
I think it really depends on health and how they think Horne is throwing relative to what he looked like before. How his arm strength and command are, etc.
Aceves does need time in AAA. He’s 25 and pitched in a fairly advanced league – the competition in the Mexican league is good. You need to see him against more advanced hitters to get more of a sense for how ready he is.
And ultimately, it’s going to come down to who is pitching the best – and by that I mean not only who has the best statistics but who looks the best to the yankee’s pitching people – who looks the most major league ready at this time.
Horne is probably better than Acevedes, but he just got back from an injury, so it doesn’t make sense to rush him to the majors now.
Remember when everyone wanted Brian Giles really bad? And then he leveraged the Yankees for a fat deal in SD? I hate that guy.
OK, the kid’s been fed, the dog’s been fed, wife out on her business trip, and now to business….
1. Larry Bowa and Ron Guidry are good guys. I’m a Guidry fan from way back. I wish Bowa were still our 3B coach.
2. I used to work with a guy like Omar. Spent all his time kissing up, but not really accomplishing anything worthwhile. When we got taken over, he kissed every rear end he could find. He even served as a hatchet man for a few firings. But in the end, he got canned, just like everyone he canned.
3. IPK is going to have to step up, big time, sooner or later. It may be later, in July, but he will need to do it. He can, he just has to believe that he can. It’s all up to him.
4. Cash’s comment on Aceves is VERY telling. Cash usually doens’t tip his hand, so I think this is significant.
5. Thank goodness I’m a Yankees fan and not a Mets fan. GO YANKEES!
Andy. Strike Zone. Please find.
Also, it’d be amazing to play on the same team as your brother.
Okay, Andy, I mean, find the strike zone and throw strikes, not hits.
Wasn’t the game gona be in channel 9 according to Pete? D:
Welcome to a Pettitte start, son!!!
Not a Pettitte start without the pick off
“Is there a place we can follow Aveces’ start?”
milb.com is very good. you can also get all the audio for games for free. they also have gameday for AAA.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....p;did=milb
Nice start Andy!
Nice 1st inning for Andy.
Andy. Strike Zone. Please find.
Sounds like Hawk Harrelson.
Rebecca, you can follow Aceves start here, just refesh it every few minutes.
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....x_haraax_1
“Wasn’t the game gona be in channel 9 according to Pete? D:”
It is
The game is on nine.
CB beat me to it lol, byt yea milb.com is awesome.
funny as hell tcsports
CB and Mark: Thanks!
If im the pads manager when he got back to the dugout I’d have said “what part of ‘Pettitte pickoff move’ didn’t you understand”?
Any one living in Princeton , NJ area.
On which channel of Comcast is the game on?
Thanks for your help.
funny as hell tcsports
I wasn’t trying to be funny. That sounded like something Harrelson would say.
Way to take some pitches!! (gag)
channel 9 is not working for me…anyone else having trouble?
Most of the Yankees haven’t seen this Wolf guy before. You know how Yankees do against pitchers they’ve never seen…
How about Dellin Betances he’s just in AA ball and never had a full minor league year.He can help us.How about get Gerrit Cole to pitch after we sign him.Can Cashman think of anymore minor league pitchers to fill WAng and pretend that will make everything okay.He’s gonna make a trade.
Cashman also said Igawa can pitch because you know the minors is like the Majors…but trading overrated Kennedy is crazy.We don’t need a starter now but we willl soon.
And Minaya is really a douchebag.
help: I’m okay, maybe it’s your provider? (I use Cablevision)
Dandy.
Rebecca – that’s true about the Yanks not having seen Wolf. Plus his name has been mentioned in trade talks with the Yanks so he probably has incentive to do well.
This made me lol.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/articl.....p;c_id=mlb
I still can’t believe Wang has blew out a foot on a blade of grass.
Anyone else have no announcers on 9?
A-ROD!!!
Uh, did I just see what I think I just saw?
Also, Alex = the man. Third HR in as many games.
ARod with another HR!
Fran-
Also, Wolf has a scary name.
BOO YAH!
I said yesterday in a comment to the Wang injury notice:
“You want a step-up guy, then the Yanks should move Alfredo Aceves to AAA and see if he can continue his Joba Jr impression at that level for a month. If he does, then they can slide him to the rotation and see what we have between him, IPK, Giese and Rasner.”
Hey Cash! I think like you! Can I be an assistant? It’d beat the cr-p out of my current job.
Nice!
Arod!!!
How many is that this past week? 3
i have cablevision too
im listening to gameday audio so im not completely in the dark
arod!!!
chris…i have nothing on channel 9 just a black screen and a low buzzing noise
That’s pure talent…taking that pitch out is just sick.
“He plays a game with which I am not familiar”
-Bobby Jones re: Jack Nicklaus
I am a big fan of the bats coming alive.
If we can stop the bleeding, play .650 ball for a month or two ( i know that’s hard, but the bats are hot) and get cano going, this team might be downright scary. Matsui is so much better when he’s not forcing himself to play outfield everyday. get a little luck in the pitching department and we’re in the playoffs.
how’s that for optimism, rebecca?
Uh, this Aveces kid? I like him so far…
Rebecca,
What did you see?
That’s it. I’m growing a mustache.
kd: Excellent.
I also like this Giambi kid.
Giambi: One year, 10 million?
YanksAngel: I’d rather not say if it didn’t actually happen.
The year of the stache!
The stache works again
maybe a lohud blog mustache pact? for those of us who can grow them?
If A-Rod is the Man, what do you call Marcus Thames?
perhaps randy wolfe is indeed not a good choice…??
Is it the ’stache or the HGH?
ARod got off to a bit of a slow start for him.
But since he’s come back he’s just been absolutely phenomenal.
He’s now hitting .330 and his OPS is at 1.036. Last year his OPS in that monstrous year was 1.067.
It’s amazing the difference in his game this year and last compared to his first three years in pinstripes.
There’s no more controversy about his future or where he’s going to finish his career. He looks completely at home and has since the start of last year when he spoke candidly about his relationship with Jeter and then put the controversy behind him.
ARod getting hot is going to do wonders for the teams difficulties hitting with RISP.
It’s really hard to imagine where this team would be right now if they had lost ARod in the off season after he opted out.
Melky hit that well, that was a nice play by Giles.
I’ve missed all of the day’s comments, but did anyone ever suggest that Randy Wolfe was auditioning for the Yanks?
Well struck ball by melky, that’s too bad.
“but did anyone ever suggest that Randy Wolfe was auditioning for the Yanks?”
Several times:-)
You know, I almost forgot Bruney was on the team cos it’s been so long!
Glad to hear he’s making progress, he’d been such a boon for the team in the beginning–except, of course, in those high leverage situations.
Well, people and websites (ESPN, SI, etc) mentioned that regular workshorses (Wolf, Artoyo, Millwood, etc) would be viable solutions to the Wang dilemma.
*Arroyo*
“If A-Rod is the Man, what do you call Marcus Thames?”
Umm . . . Marcus? Mr. Thames?
so im the only one without channel 9??
this is annoying
im not used to the radio…suzyns accent is killer she sounds like my boston friends
Thanks, whozat, I suspected as much. I trust Arod and Giambi’s commentary will be added to the Wolf file.
Rebecca: what was it you think you might have thought you saw? Bored minds want to know.
giambi’s ops is .982, second in al.
Nick: Oh, all right. When they were showing Travolta, it looked like the two guys to his right (our left) were in the middle of a make out session.
But I must have thought I saw something I didn’t see, or someone else would have said something, I think.
I’ve been trying to catch some of Aceves’s start on the radio. The trenton radio announcers are very good (sadly better than the yankees major league radio coverage…).
They are very impressed with aceves. Here was an interesting thing they had to say about him and his approach to pitching:
“Aceves has an advanced command for a pitcher in this league [AA Eastern League]. He really has a great feel for the strike zone. Every pitch from Aceves has a purpose.”
Aceves tonight – 1 hit allowed so far through 4 innings with 1K and 0BB.
Good stuff CB thanks.
I was hoping you thought you’d seen the (in)famous white tube top girl from Houston, but I’m not watching anyway, so I don’t know why it would matter.
Andy looks very good. It’s nice to see more of the curve ball to righties to go along with a sharper cutter.
If we get 4-5 runs, that’s normally it for the Padres. So lets get Wolf and put this one away.
Rebecca -
What I saw was Travolta in the middle, Kelly Preston to one side, and Travolta’s son leaning in to John. I have heard that Travolta’s son is autistic, but because he is a scientologist he will not acknowledge that. That might explain if you saw the boy behaving somewhat strangely for an older boy.
Great stuff, CB.
thanks for the update cb, that’s blog gold.
Aceves so far 4IP 1H 0R 0BB 1K
“giambi’s ops is .982, second in al.”
As a team they now have 4 of the top 15 OPS players in the AL including 2 of the top 5 and 3 of the top 10.
This team really should start scoring runs in droves. The last piece they really need is for cano to get hot. That would give them a run producer at the bottom of the line up.
“That’s three home runs in as many days for A-Rod. No. 13 this year and No. 531 career. Only 232 left to erase the stain on the game.”
Gee, what are you getting at here, Pete? Something about the current HR champion?
It’d also be nice if Jeter could be a little better than a below-average offensive player.
Melky’s been hitting the ball hard of late; I think he’ll go on a hot streak soon.
4 homers in 4 games for A-JAX. He has 4 RBI tonight.
AJax 3-3 HR 4RBI
45RBI for year
Nice hustle, Bobby!
Are they really going to DFA Moeller and keep J. Wellington Wimpy ?
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http://www.haveeru.com.mv/engl.....e_wimp.gif
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I mean, Molina ???
law of averages… HR in his 1 ab, whiff in his second. arg.
Darn, wish we got something from that
The yankee’s pitching coaches are very impressed with Aceves. Really impressed.
When a guy who is older like Aceves puts up ridiculous pinball numbers in the minors (especially low minors) you never know what exactly that means. Just could be an advanced guy pitching way above the competition.
But when those stats are backed up by the general impression the coaches have – then you could have something. That’s where Aceves is right now.
The yankee’s pitching think there’s real substance with Aceves. For comparison, last year at this time with Edwar was putting up pinball numbers the organization held him back in the minors for longer than seemed necessary from his numbers because they felt like Edwar needed better command of his fastball (which proved to be very true last year…).
With Aceves they do think he’s legit. Not going to be great. But he knows how to pitch and has a decent arm.
He’s only going to be a #5 starter type but if he could do that for them at some point this season that would be an enormous help.
If nothing else – he throws a few good starts and he becomes a valuable trade chip.
Such a relief to see A-Jax driving the ball. That second-half promotion was something else, and it’s nice to see evidence that the progress may have been real.
Damn, Andy’s on.
MELKMAN!
Well, that’s why we keep him in the lineup.
If he can be a #5 right now, that would be a great lift to this team that’s in a precarious situation right now.
great play melky
What a catch by Melky!
GO YANKS!
That’s not going to help my free brett campaign great catch Melky.
Gotta love Melky. He’s building himself one hell of a highlight reel.
9 pitches this inning – great job by Pettitte.
Thanks to Melky a quick 1-2-3 inning for Andy.
Who was it that was looking to trade the Melkman?
Andy is wheelin’ and dealin’!
The difference between Moeller’s offensive performance and Molina’s is a few singles. The difference between them defensively is that Molina has a cannon for a right arm.
As long as you hit better than, say, Flaherty, defense is most important for a backup catcher.
pete is the update king today
we are gonna have a very clogged outfield in a few years – we’re gonna have to make some moves
Giambi is a monster
Who’s hitting the ball better right now? Giambi or Austin Jackson?
God, those opposite-field homers are just gorgeous.
Wow – Bruney is throwing? He had the same injury Wang has right?
The thing I love about John Flaherty is that he has no problem admitting—
GIAMBI!! SECOND OF THE GAME!
–that he wasn’t much of a hitter
Guess Wolfe is off our Menu haha Giambiii
Edwar’s still there! (looking a bit malnourished!)
Martin
June 17th, 2008 at 7:32 pm
That’s it. I’m growing a mustache.
I’m man-scaping right now.
anyone know the song they are playing at the stadium right now? once posada got the single?
Didn’t someone suggest we get this guy? Um, I don’t think so.
ya can’t stop the stache
Holy frijole! I think I’ll grow me a stache, too.
Missed a hanger there. C’mon Robbie!
That’s the thing TK, Bruney was throwing weeks ago. I saw somewhere where he said he was throwing sitting down, keeping his arm in some sort of shape. Hopefully Wang can do the same.
wooww
giambi!!
wow sterling and especially suzyn are getting fired up about randolph
Randy Wolfe’s Yankee audition should be done right now. NEXT!
Thats my boy Cano
Oh it would be so nice if this were the start of something for canoe.
“Such a relief to see A-Jax driving the ball.”
Jackson’s growth as a player has been remarkable and as he looks poised to put together a very strong second half. Can’t expect him to do what he did second half of last year – but you have to be very happy with what he’s doing.
The power is going to come for him. He’s only 21 and already in AA. The biggest thing for him this year is the progress he’s made in his approach at the plate. He’s become much more patient and more selective.
Two years ago, as a 19 year old, he struck out 151 times in low A ball. Last year that dropped to 109. But his walks also decreased last year to only 48 the whole season.
So far this year he’s already drawn 33 walks in 65 games with 56K’s. The walk rate is a great thing to see – AA pitching is much more advanced than A ball. To see him drawing more walks in AA than A ball while holding his K rate essentially the same is a terrific thing to see.
As long as he stays patient and selective the power will come. That’s what we are seeing so far with him this year.
He has a chance to be a very valuable player. It’s really not easy finding CF who can play good defense and hit.
cano with the 6 pitch at bat. patience pays off
We need to take this game because Rasner is gonna get rocked tomorrow
Yeah, we don’t want to add this guy to our pitching staff.
ive been growing the stache for 3 weeks already
Um yeah, I vote no for this guy coming to the Bronx (not that I had a vote anyways
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“wow sterling and especially suzyn are getting fired up about randolph”
They should, he was a great Yankee and he’s been disrespected by the freaking Mets.
No chance they dump Molina is favor of Moeller. Among other things, the current Collective Bargaining Agreement mandates that at least 2 Molinas have to be playing in top media markets at any given time. WIth Yadier’s injury, Jose is going nowhere.
“wow sterling and especially suzyn are getting fired up about randolph”
I don’t blame that. That is not how you treat a human being, let alone someone you claim is your friend.
giambi’s ops is 1.003 – second in the al.
“we are gonna have a very clogged outfield in a few years – we’re gonna have to make some moves”
There’s Melky, who hasn’t shown that he can hit enough to be a starting OFer on this club…Gardner, who’s Melky-arm+speed, Jackson who’s in AA and starting to hit, and Tabata who’s NOT hitting at all well in AA.
I don’t think that’s really going to be a problem. Someone will not make it to the bigs, and someone else will turn out to be a 4th OFer. If one of the four turns out to be a starter long-term, that’s good. If two do, that’s GREAT.
That’s not doing the job, Melky…
tied for league lead in homers
Too bad I can’t grow a mustache… asian y’know.
.408 on base percentage
Aceves can be better than a #5 because he has plus control. After all, Jamie Moyer has high school quality velocity, but plus-plus control and decent movement.
ps – I was interviewed for that firing story that Pete referenced…
CB –
Did you see the interview that the NYTimes beat writer did with A-Jax? He stressed the exact same thing that you are talking about. (the Bats Blog)
He wants to become a professional hitter, not just a slasher using his athletic ability.
He also admitted he thought he could be in the NBA if he had stuck to basketball. Nice to have that kind of talent in the system.
time for the captain to do some damage
yeah – no randy wolf please.
Oh no! The king of the DP is up.
Wow Giambi. He’s really turned this season around. Now it’s up to a couple others to do the same too *looks in the general direction of Melky and Robbie*
Clearly Randy Wolf’s not up to the job. Who’s next on the list? Derek Lowe or Freddy Garcia?
Lucked out on that one haha
can the Capt pull off a slam?
Boo, Jeter. Thanks Pads!
I think the Padres’ error was muy bueno
Cashman probably has better Spanish skills than we realize.
I know Ortiz is going to win the fan vote for the dh at the all star game, but that is really a joke. Fear the stache.
Jeter got saved there.
“Collective Bargaining Agreement mandates that at least 2 Molinas”
Nick – what if we pick up an Alou or an Alomar?
Dodgers want Chamberlain for Lowe or Penny.
This is our chance to blow this game sky high. Let’s go, Bobby!!!
Wolfe messed up his Yankees audition.
I’m looking for a solid outing for Rasner. The Padres are what the Yankees were with A-Rod and Posada out, but a little worse. Besides Adrian Gonzalez, there really isn’t a single other outstanding hitter on the team.
I cannot believe the Randolph situation. Remember when people were saying the Yankees disrespected Torre? I mean, they waited until the offseason, and offered him a contract (with a pay cut). It was a dirty situation either way, and the Yankees didn’t handle it all that well, but byegones are byegones and everybody’s moved on.
To wait until 3 AM after the team’s won 3 of 4…it’s not just classless, it’s senseless!
patrick and laura: i completely agree. suzyn said that she spoke to some members of the media in houston and they not only knew that willie was getting fired but who was replacing who. they also said that willie asked omar, as a friend, to tell him what was up and omar said dont worry your fine. so rude.
I’ll give a penny for Penny.
Nice, productive non-out.
“Dodgers want Chamberlain for Lowe or Penny.”
LOL.
“I know Ortiz is going to win the fan vote for the dh at the all star game, but that is really a joke. Fear the stache.”
Giambi isnt a vote on DH he is on there for 1B which he also deserves. Matsui is the DH and in 2nd place, but Ortiz wont play in the ASG
Al from BK
June 17th, 2008 at 8:14 pm
Wolfe messed up his Yankees audition.
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and that’s ok by me.
Wow. We’re just getting a ton of breaks tonight.
“Aceves can be better than a #5 because he has plus control. After all, Jamie Moyer has high school quality velocity, but plus-plus control and decent movement.”
Moyer’s lefty and an outlier. Aceves _could_ be better than than a #5, but the odds are that he won’t be.
Alright Bobby, time to put this game away and end the Randy Wolf experiment
“Wow – Bruney is throwing? He had the same injury Wang has right?”
Unfortunately Wang does not have the same injury as Bruney. His is considerably worse because he really has two injuries.
He has the Lisfranc injury (and Wang’s Lisfranc may be less severe than Bruney’s).
But Wang also has a torn peroneal longus tendon. The torn peroneal longus tendon may actually be a worse injury than the Lisfranc. Will Carrol had a good entry on this today:
Carrol spoke with a foot specialist about Wang:
“It is unusual to have both a Lisfranc ligament sprain and partial tear peroneal longus together, and longer time will be needed for recovery (8-12 weeks if no significant instability occurs at the Lisfranc joints). The combined injuries represent greater rotational stress than would be experienced for each injury alone.”
http://www.baseballprospectus......cleid=7676
Tell the Giants they can have Dan Giese for Tim Lincecum.
Damn, we only got 5 runs
Now that was great
Back to work Andy
Haha oh wow. No to Wolf. I’d rather see Giese.
let’s see if andy can go 8 and save the bullpen
“I cannot believe the Randolph situation. Remember when people were saying the Yankees disrespected Torre? I mean, they waited until the offseason, and offered him a contract (with a pay cut). ”
It’s interesting to note that even with the “pay cut”, Torre still would’ve been the highest paid manager in the majors. What was it – $5 mil? With a $3 mil incentive program???
Ah thanks Tim, I didn’t realize Giambi wasn’t on the dh ballot.
yanks up 7-0, thunder up 7-0…woohoo good day for baseball!
already 20 runs in the past 2 games
Wow, I liked that inning–like the Dynasty Yankees, capitalizing on every hour.
“Dodgers want Chamberlain for Lowe or Penny.”
Only the Dodgers would think another team would do something so dumb. Because they probably would.
Andy with a 7 run cushion.
“To wait until 3 AM after the team’s won 3 of 4…it’s not just classless, it’s senseless!”
Not to mention the fact that he flew all the way to LA for the Angels game for no freakin’ reason! You mean to tell me that he could fire him in NY the night before?
That’s alright. The Mets suck and no mgr in the world is going to save them. The Wilpon’s will have no choice but to fire Omar next. You know what they say; what goes around comes around.
Is Aceves a soft tosser? That wasn’t my impression -
Pete- you’re a regular William F’ing Randolph Hearst with all these news flashes.
whozat: LMAO.
I think Joba was untouchable even for the Santana deal!
If I remember correctly, is this the same Padres that whooped the Mets ass?
random thunder fact (cuz i know you all love it)….tony clark was the first former thunder player to have his # retired.
Is this a AAA team? I am confused. I thought we were playing the SD Padres. They gave us 6 outs in that inning.
Was that a serious post about Lowe or Penny for Joba. Tell Joe Torre that he cant get his hands on Joba if he wanted him he should have taken that contract.
I will never forget the 3-1 pitch that Tony Clark took back in 2004. A meatball right down the middle that he should have crushed. Instead, he took it for a strike. Loser.
Helpful medical info CB – THANKS!
2-1 3 straight games.
I know it’s the Padres, but it’s about time something started to go our way.
What’s the saying, play the top clubs even and murder the second division suckers. We have to do that.
“Did you see the interview that the NYTimes beat writer did with A-Jax? He stressed the exact same thing that you are talking about. (the Bats Blog)”
I did see that. One of the best articles I’ve seen recently on Jackson was from the NY Observer. Very good take on his development as a player:
http://www.observer.com/2008/y.....-big-thing
The Wilpon’s are a gutless, classless, and pathetic excuses for humans. Especially that dingleberry Jeff. I hope they lose money for the next 10 years.
Joba will always be untouchable. Theres no trading a pitcher like that. Im seeing him thursday
Wow Jeter looked old on that play.
“Is this a AAA team? I am confused. I thought we were playing the SD Padres. They gave us 6 outs in that inning. ”
Well this AAA team swept the Mets
sunny615 – don’t hold yourself back, express yourself.
“Is Aceves a soft tosser? That wasn’t my impression -”
He’s sits in the high 80’s. Gets up to 90-91. Commands his fastball very well.
Tim- Good stuff I wish Yankee stadium had wifi so you could live blog for us.
“Is Aceves a soft tosser? That wasn’t my impression -”
I’m pretty sure his stuff is Rasnerish. Maybe a little better. Great pitchability, though. I’d like to see how he does against guys who go up there with a plan.
Thanks Joe. Can I add that they’re also spineless?
Ajax 4-4
“Is this a AAA team? I am confused. I thought we were playing the SD Padres. They gave us 6 outs in that inning. â€
Well this AAA team swept the Mets”
Dude. They’re the Mets
Also, it was this time last year–interleague–that we first got hot as well.
Tim
June 17th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
“Is this a AAA team? I am confused. I thought we were playing the SD Padres. They gave us 6 outs in that inning. â€
Well this AAA team swept the Mets
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Aren’t the Mets a AA team?
“Wow Jeter looked old on that play.”
I dunno…it was right over the 2B bag…tough to get to.
How can you walk Barrett?
At this point I wouldnt trade Joba for anyone he is homegrown. Thats something to be proud of him becoming an absolute beast of a starter is one of those things that have taken the sting off the Wang issue for me at least.
“Tim- Good stuff I wish Yankee stadium had wifi so you could live blog for us.”
Actually my iPhone works from YS so I probably will for a little bit.
If this is the Pettitte were going to see down the stretch along with Mussina who is already passed the win mark I expected him to have, and Chamberlain and a returning hopefully healthy Hughes. We should be set.
Not to pile on, but I heard this one on the radio:
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“Collective Bargaining Agreement mandates that at least 2 Molinas have to be playing in top media markets at any given time. WIth Yadier’s injury, Jose is going nowhere.”
Additionally, MLB would not want to loose revenue by canceling America’s favorite game show “Name that Molina” on ESPN.
I think the yanks are going to make a deal for bedard. I hope they don’t give up too much tho
I wish Hughesy could come back already. I wonder how long he was injured this year before he went to the DL?
Mel – the M should stand for Minaya’s Entire Team
Back to work bats and let’s go Phillies!!!
“I’m pretty sure his stuff is Rasnerish. Maybe a little better. Great pitchability, though. I’d like to see how he does against guys who go up there with a plan.”
Aceves will do fine. He mixes his pitches well and keeps the batter off balance by throwing the unexpected.
Bedard’s hip problems worry me. I hope Cash won’t deal for Bedard. Besides, didn’t he express distaste for big markets?
Theres no previous talk of the Yankees being interested in Bedard. I believe it will be Sabathia if its anyone. But when (if) Wang comes back in Sept. What do we do? Put Joba as the setup man down the stretch and hopefully in the Playoffs? Actually thats not a bad idea
It won’t be hard to guess my favorite Michael Barrett moment . . .
Remember when AJ Pierzinski (sp?) slid into homeplate against the Cubbies and AJ got a little chesty – next thing you know Barrett cold-cocked him!
AJ deserves that to happen to him every week.
John- What makes you think that? Ive heard that Seattle would want a haul for him based on the top level prospects they gave Baltimore. C.C. believe it or not might come cheaper, I’m really gunning for Harang I dunno why I got a feeling about him.
I love playing Name That Molina!
I dont really like Harang. I dont trust his stuff, and it would REALLY help if we got a lefty especially since Pettitte might be gone after this year.
“Joba will always be untouchable. Theres no trading a pitcher like that.”
Agreed. But it’s also very self-evident to say that now that he’s had success at the major league level.
Joba was only an untouchable player because the organization decided to make him one.
I bring this up because of all the Sabathia trade talk. A lot of people have said they should do “whatever it takes” to get Sabathia.
But last time at this year the Rangers wanted Joba in a trade for Teixeira. The organization didn’t do it – but in the past they would have.
And both fans and people in the media said that the yankees needed to do “whatever it takes” to get Teixeira last year. The first base situation last season was awful.
It’s true not all prospects work out. But it’s also true that every great player was at one time a prospect.
That’s why you can’t make panic trades. Good thing the organization is no longer working that way.
The rest of baseball just refuses to believe this however. That’s why they keep making absurd trade demands that always center on Joba. They still think/ hope that the yankees are being run the way they used to.
It was a choice on the part of management to change that. Different management could just as easily made a different decision on Joba. The mets did it wit Kazmir.
“Aceves will do fine. He mixes his pitches well and keeps the batter off balance by throwing the unexpected.”
He hasn’t even thrown a game in AAA yet. Calm down, folks. He’s keeping AA pitchers off balance. That doesn’t _necessarily_ mean he’ll keep big leaguers off balance.
I actually agree that there’s a great chance he’ll be “fine”, by which I mean a decent #5 guy. But more than that…well, we’ll see.
Giambi’s hitting 270!
Sorry, just got in from work and caught up with all Pete’s updates. I’m loving Moose more & more this season. Brought back the ice cream and 3 HRs tonight, sugar works!
Cashman, LOL. He’s had a few worthy sound bites today.
Wang sounds very hopeful so that’s a good sign.
Guidry & Bowa are so sweet.
Pete – your blog is the ABSOLUTE BEST!
CB- thats very very true. He only established himself last year basically. I believe we have 2 more lightning in the bottle type pitchers in Betances and Heredia
I’m watching the Sox gamecast. Go Phillies!
“Bedard’s hip problems worry me. I hope Cash won’t deal for Bedard. Besides, didn’t he express distaste for big markets?”
Bedard did very weil in the AL East – he just wanted out of Baltimore because they had no bullpen, no offense, the owner stinks and he got tired of losing.
I don’t know about the hip though – he has made 24-30 starts the last 4 years.
We had on crappy attitude pitcher lefty that we had to get rif of. I cant immagine Beddard coming here. From what iv heard and read here. He makes Randy Johnsons attitude look like Nieves. It isnt happening.
Its hilarious how EVERY Red Sox fan was saying..”Arent Yankee fans jealous, look at Colon, he is sick this year” Look at how he did yesterday against the first good team he has faced. Oh and hes going to the DL
Apparently it is a “degenerative” hip condition. If that’s not a red flag I don’t know what is.
Bedard also showed interest in opting for FA and going to his home country Canada to play with the Jays
I was working in Philly today so got to hear a different take of sports talk. Lots of talk about Sabathia. The callers are all revved up about him and want him.
ESPN had someone from the front ofice on. I think they said he was the President of baseball operations (Montgomery?). They asked him about Sabathia and he said they prefer not to give 5 year contracts to pitchers, but wouldn’t be opposed to a Sabathia-like player as a rental if they thought it would make a difference.
The Philly fans are looking at this interleague set with the Sox as a World Series preview.
The big three are hitless in Philly expect that to change. I dont see Lester shutting them down.
Good and bad news. Colon to DL but Dice-K is back on Saturday.
I don’t know that much about the quality of AA hitters – but it looks like Aceves just got 2 swinging strikeouts in the 7th inning of a shutout.
Count me in the impressed column.
I knew Bedard had a hip condition but didn’t know it was degenerative.
Degenirative, however you spell it, means it’ll only get worse.
“Bedard also showed interest in opting for FA and going to his home country Canada to play with the Jays”
Bedard is more interested in Hockey than in Baseball. That’s why SEA is unhappy with him. He would be miserable in a Yankees uniform.
“The big three are hitless in Philly expect that to change. I dont see Lester shutting them down.”
Unfortunetly he will probably shut them down. The Red Sox rarely lose a series. But that may change since they have a tough few weeks
After tonight I think it will be time for Aceves to go to AAA to see what he really has. This is a guy who is 25 already, and he is 1 hitting AA batters. I’m not saying he will be anything more than a 5 starter, but he should be going to AAA.
Anyone else having issues with MLB.tv? Keeps cutting in and out. At this rate, they are going to switch to the SD feed.
Does Sabathia want to come to NY?
Tim, Sabathia might, but the yankees aren’t going to trade for him this minute. Ultimately, the best option is to sign him as a FA at the end of the year.
Aceves is good but lets talk about him when he is at SWB. The talk of him dominating is a bit premature. McCutchen destroyed AA but has been so-so at SWB. I think both these guys should not come up til 09. Horne however is intriguing. Also great play by the MVP there.
“Does Sabathia want to come to NY?”
I don’t think so. He said in an interview that he wanted to stay in CLE.
Laura – any source for that story? It is pretty hard to believe that Bedard has a great career ERA and track record but prefers hockey?
Are you an anti-canadite? (JK!)
same here Laura
What’s Andy’s pitch count?
I agree with you Mark, we need to see what Aceves is about
“I knew Bedard had a hip condition but didn’t know it was degenerative.”
He gets recurrent inflammation in his hip joint. No idea why. Could be his mechanics.
But he’s needed to get high doses of anit-inflammatory steroids. That’s very serious.
I’d only take a chance on him if Seattle was wanted to just dump him and start new, which I doubt they’d do.
“I don’t know that much about the quality of AA hitters – but it looks like Aceves just got 2 swinging strikeouts in the 7th inning of a shutout.”
I didn’t say they were bad. I just said that they usually don’t go to the plate with much of a plan…that’s a big part of the maturation of a ballplayer, and 21 year old kids don’t usually have it. So, a guy with a lot more experience mixing his stuff could very well get them out handily.
I’m not saying Aceves is doing badly…he’s doing GREAT in AA. I’m saying let’s not start agitating for him to be in the bigs nowNowNOW because he still has to show that he can get out hitters who are thinking along with him.
I do think that it’s pointless to keep him at AA, though. Who leaves the AAA rotation for him? Karstens, Horne, Igawa, Marquez or McCutchen?
Andy is really looking impressive tonight.
I don’t think Alex gets enough credit for his transition to 3B. He had a rough spot that one year, but other than that, he’s been great.
Anyone still for trading Giambi? Pettitte? Damon? Mussina? Matsui?
I remember this blog the first few weeks. People couldn’t get rid of those guys fast enough!
“Andy is really looking impressive tonight.”
That’s what we’re going to need with CMW down and out for the count. Rasner needs to bounce back tomorrow with a strong start.
Tim- Unlikely Lester is well past 70 pitches going into the 6th. If they are shut-down it will be a group effort Delcarmen, Okajima, Papelbon the wole gang has to shut it down.
Aceves is having a helluva start in Trenton tonight… 7 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 4 K
whozat – I wonder if that question is keeping Aceves in AA more than anything else.
Why would you bring in a guy who has the reputation of being a detriment in the clubhouse? The one thing this team always has going for them is that they all get along well and there’s no jerk on the team. Can’t they try to keep it that way?
“Anyone still for trading Giambi? Pettitte? Damon? Mussina? Matsui?”
Not all of us. I never called for any of those guys to get traded. I gave Giambi until the All Star Break to get his act together before we DFA’d him. That’s a moot point now.
86 pitches for Andy
C.C. might not wanna be a Yankee but he likes the fashion.
http://ballsiest.com/sportsblo.....bathia.jpg
Aw, Curt Shilling had a setback.
Everyone break out the champagne!!!
Celebrate good times, come on!!!!
Laura that makes you a reasonable fan. I scratched my head any time I saw a call for Yankee mass murder. How smart do the fans who called for restraint look now.
Aceves up to 8 shutout innings with 1 hit.
CB –
Speaking of Seattle dumping Bedard – here is a quote from their baseball blog:
“Basically, I feel the same as Geoff, but I don’t think the Mariners are willing to go 70 cents on the dollar with Bedard. They gave up too much to get him. If this front office remains, they will spend the next three years trying to justify that deal. So, unless the Mariners fear he won’t re-sign after next season (and Bedard does not seem too happy here), they’re going to be stuck offering a huge contract to a pitcher unwilling to act like an ace.”
I smell a FIRESALE!
Only one I didnt want was Mussina. But who would have HONESTLY guessed he would even have 5-6 wins let alone 10 at this point? I love Damon as a player. Same with Pettitte Giambi and Matsui
The fun part about this season (now that the Yanks have done some winning) is seeing all these people step up and perform tht we didn’t expect–Mussina especially, but also Giambi and to a lesser extent, Damon and Matsui
C.C. might not wanna be a Yankee but he likes the fashion.
http://ballsiest.com/sportsblo.....bathia.jpg
When was this? Cleveland front office must have been pisssssed
Fire-sale call seattle tell them Igawa, a pack of Hebrew national franks and a bucket of balls for King Felix. Hey its worth a shot LA asked for Joba for Brad Penny(chuckles)
Mussina has reinvented himself. Once he accepted that he was going to find another way to pitch, he’s been fantastic. I wouldn’t be surprised if he wins 20 this year.
Alfredo is done for the night. Here is the line:
IP H R ER BB SO
8.0 1 0 0 2 4
Time to move to AAA
Igawa is a problem for a wide range of reasons.
But one of the ways he’s going to become a problem soon is by the fact that he’s wasting a spot in the AAA rotation.
The yankees are about to get into a big crunch for starting spots in AAA. Horne, Marquez, and McCutchen are there and need spots. Kennedy is coming back soon and will need a spot – sounds like they are going to try not to rush him back. Then there’s karstens and Igawa. Ultimately, Hughes will be back as well. And it looks like Aceves now needs to be challenged at AAA.
They can send karstens to the pen. Igawa being in AAA clogging up a starting slot just doesn’t help. Part of the reason why McCuthchen didn’t start the season in AAA was because of the numbers game in AAA. Turns out now that the yanks would have benefited from having McCutchen at AAA earlier rather than later.
They’ll send Igawa to the pen as they’ll have to but that will really be admitting defeat with him.
Screw boston and especially screw them Celtics
About that pic of CC. Just because he plays for the Indians doesn’t mean he can’t be a Yankees fan. I wouldn’t have worn that hat out in public, but that’s me.
“But who would have HONESTLY guessed he would even have 5-6 wins let alone 10 at this point?”
Honestly, not me!
If someone told me back in March that Moose would have 10 wins by mid-June, I would have asked them for the name of their drug dealer.
Moose has been a pleasant surprise. Hope he keeps it up.
Tim –
Nothing new for the Mistake by the Lake – LeBron wears a Yankee cap to Indian/Yankee games in the playoffs last year.
(he’s begging to be a Knick!)
At least if randy wolf were traded to the yankees, he wouldn’t have to face their lineup anymore.
Gerrit Cole.C’mon we can use him after he signs with us this year.I mean he’s been good in High School.Anybody else how about Al Leiter?
Cashman loves to put a pokerface like we are really gonna use all these AA guys.
This is the same man in the 2005 off-season who was prepared to have Bubba Crosby as a our centerfielder.
We got 4 weeks to make a trade.It will happen.
I dont understand why Cashman is not stringent with the prospects. We have a plethora of good pitching in the minors. Not just 2-3, we have like 7 or 8 pitchers that could be very good. Yet we only have 2 spots after this year that will be open for a while
*SCOREBOARD UPDATE*
Cubs have tied it 1-1 in Tampa.
Boston tacked on a run leading 3-0 in Philly.
Houston tacked on a run lead Baltimore 5-3.
Torontos till losing 0-2 at Milwaukee.
Wow, that wasn’t even close to being a strike. It’s amazing how bad the umpiring has been this year. Thank God that call went our way. Usually, we are getting screwed by the umps.
TKinDC: What about LeBron as a Knick and ‘Melo as a Net? I’d be so down with that.
Pete, you’re on your game tonight. Hysterical.
A-Jax 4 for 4 with a homer and 4 ribbies… Aceves 8 innings of 1 hit ball… Pettitte looking like himself again… the Stache on fire… good day for the Yanks organization.
TKinDC- Hold those horses Yanks got no cap room til 2011. Lebron on the Knicks is a Nike wet dream. Imagine how many kids in NYC would have a 23 james on their back.
*Knicks got no cap room*
For people interested in Bedard here’s what Bavasi had to say about Bedard and his willingness to work deep into games.
Bavasi traded for Bedard – staked his job on Bedard. And this is what he had to say. This is about as damning a statement about a player as you’ll ever see. From the seattle news tribune:
“We asked him about Bedard and his unwillingness to go past 100 pitches…
“You have to ask him and I know that’s no fun. And he’s going to have a stupid answer for you can count on it. He’s going to have some dumb-ass answer.”
“He’s either gassed because he’s laboring. He’s protecting himself because he knows even he sticks around and is mediocre he gets another 2 million bucks lopped onto his salary.”
“Why doesn’t he go longer? It’s a real pointed question. But you need to ask him. And good luck with that.”"
http://blogs.thenewstribune.co.....ding_bavas
CB – Besides worrying about the big club, Cash has to solve this dilemma – and a good dilemma it is. Sounds like a deal or two will be made at some point, to either help the Yankees ML team or restock the minors with position players.
Any thoughts?
Michael Barrett is one of the worst catchers in the majors.
Bron Bron, coming to the knicks will not happen.. Why would He leave a perfect situation, Its Cleveland
Niiiiice Andy!
who would they trade to restock the system?
Granted the Padre’s aren’t a great team, but this is exactly the kind of start they needed from Andy. He’s really looked very good.
Great job tonight Andy! 103 pitches for him
Wang
Chamberlain
Hughes
are locks in the rotation for another 5+ years
We have:
Kennedy
Horne
Aceves
Marquez
McCutchen
Betances
Heredia
Kontos
Jackson
Coke
De La Rosa
Garcia
Pope
McCallister
“I dont understand why Cashman is not stringent with the prospects.”
I do not think “stringent” means what you think it means.
“I’ve watched Randy Wolf pitch extensively when he was a Phillie, and trust me, he’s not the answer.”
Just wanted to remind everyone that I posted this comment yesterday. See, I told you so.
“Meanwhile, Giambi is never going to shave. The power of the ’stache could supply energy to several Third World countries. That seems pretty obvious at this point.”
LOL. I missed that before. Funny
I don’t know who Cash would trade, but it’s reaching the point where some moves need to be made. And remember, Humberto Sanchez and Andrew Brackman are in the wings. There are just so many openings in NY, or SWB for that matter, to go around.
If Cleveland in 2-3 years hasnt won a title. King James will be looking for a change of scenery and his sponsors will be in his ear telling him how great NYC is. Nothing sells better than a superstar in NYC Jeter, A-rod, Johan Santana, David Wright, Eli Manning, ask them how easy it is to get a corporate sponsor.
With the offense the Yanks have, they need to go 12-6 minimum in the next 18..
Let’s go Lakers!
Eek, that is pretty damning on Bedard. The shine wore off him really quickly.
“I do not think “stringent†means what you think it means.”
I didnt mean Stringent, why I said that I have no idea. I meant strict
From Mike Ashmore’s blog thunder thoughts:
ACEVES
The scout told me that Aceves really knows how to pitch, and he likes how he gets ahead of hitters. However, his lack of an out pitch limits him to no more than a 5th Starter in the big leagues though. He should pitch real well for Trenton however.
The scout also said
MELANCON
The scout told me that Melancon has a special arm, and he’s seen him pitching at 93 and hit 94. He has a curveball that the scout described as really good, and he doesn’t expect Melancon to be in Trenton for long. The scout does not feel that Melancon projects as a big league closer in the future though — his arm action is long and he’ll have problems with command most likely. However, according to the scout, he won’t need to command to succeed in the minors because his stuff is so good.
The scout was concerned about the stiffness in Melancon’s elbow during his delivery, and feels his current motion places a lot of strain on his shoulder. He agreed with my “catapult†description of his delivery, and felt that his delivery was long in the back.
http://thunderbaseball.wordpress.com/ great blog
Why Veras up 7?
Solar power, nuclear power, wind power… stache power.
I don’t know if people realize it, but Flava Flav is almost 50 years old.
Ya last year Erik Bedard was a top 5 AL pitcher. Wha happened? Seattle got hosed.
A-Jax 4 for 4 with a homer and 4 ribbies… Aceves 8 innings of 1 hit ball… Pettitte looking like himself again… the Stache on fire… good day for the Yanks organization.
Funny thing about that HR, he now has 4 straight games hitting a HR
Tim, of that list, the only guys you make room for MIGHT be McCallister, Betances, and Garcia if he ever puts it all together and can stay healthy. Maybe Horne, if he shows consistent command. Kennedy, if he Mooses-it-up. The rest are all back-end guys, which are nice to have…but I’m not afraid to deal most of those players. Not for pennies on the dollar or anything, but I’d move most guys on that list.
CB –
Here is some pro-Bedard propaganda (not that the GM who just got canned for being a total clown is not a good source!)
“The raves come fast and furious, unreserved testimony that the Mariners have acquired, in Erik Bedard, an elite talent.
“The Mariners just got one of the most dominant pitchers in baseball,” said Hall of Famer Jim Palmer, an Orioles broadcaster. “We’re talking about a guy who can be as good as Johan Santana.”
And just as quickly, in any conversation about Bedard, comes the ancillary warning: Don’t expect a warm and fuzzy fellow. ”
I’ll take Jim Palmers opinion over Bivasi 8 days a week
Missed home run #2 by milimeters.
*waits*
Poor defense by Gerut
Okay, that one he was watching.
Veras up 7 is silly, its time foe the Hawk Latroy Hawkins that is.
“Why Veras up 7?”
No need to push Andy. 7 strong, 103 pitches…what would be the point of pushing it?
I wonder if Alex was thinking about protecting his leg/quad when he stopped at 2nd. He clearly could have gone to third, but with 7-0, in the 7th, he may have played it safe.
And he still got to third.
I’m curious, did he say that when Bedard was an Oriole? You don’t think that Jim Palmer might have been slightly biased himself, when he said that?
“Tim, of that list, the only guys you make room for MIGHT be McCallister, Betances, and Garcia if he ever puts it all together and can stay healthy. Maybe Horne, if he shows consistent command. Kennedy, if he Mooses-it-up. The rest are all back-end guys, which are nice to have…but I’m not afraid to deal most of those players. Not for pennies on the dollar or anything, but I’d move most guys on that list.”
Well considering Joba and Wang should be our 1-2 starting next year unless we get CC, they would all be fighting for the 4-5 spot since Hughes COULD be an ace as well.
Man, that guy will be glad when this game is over.
“Veras up 7 is silly, its time foe the Hawk Latroy Hawkins that is.”
Oh…that’s a good point.
““I dont understand why Cashman is not stringent with the prospects.â€
I do not think “stringent†means what you think it means.”
LMAO
On Bron Bron coming to New York dont think its happening. One he is in a perfect situation in Cleveland. Not only is in his home-town but he is the face of the City and the sports world in that area. Yes he would make a lot more money in New York but he already makes a great deal. Finally moving to New York he would deal with tremendous pressure and although he is finding it hard to win in Cleveland it is a lot harder to win in New York. New yOrk is the toughest place to win and why would Bron Bron move from a perfect situaiton to a city where he has to prove that he can win in New York
If big G is hurt Im throwing something.
The kid that throws lefty and righty is playing for Staten Island right? I wanna go see them play the Renegades (Tampa Rays A) up here in the Hudson Valley.
Okay, Giambi licking his ’stache was gross.
Yea I didn’t mean stick with Andy, use the bad arms in the pen tonight hawkins or Traber.
Glad we don’t need these runs.
why no stache?
Joe,
A trade needs to be made. As it is I’d be surprised if the yankees didn’t lose a player to the rule V draft this year.
Here’s the rub – the pitcher they’d rather trade – Marquez, McCutchen, etc. largely project to be back end starters – #4 or #5 starters.
Those guys have limited value as minor leaguers. But if they even have a little bit of success at the major league level they become much more valuable – it shows that they’re stuff does project to the majors. A good case in point for this last year was boston trading Kason Gabbard after the started and won his first 3 mlb games.
If they could get some of these guys some major league innings that they did ok in they’d be much, much more valuable guys.
Joe Blanton as a minor leaguer wasn’t much of trade chip. As a league average starter he’s very valuable in a trade.
They also have a glut of right handed middle innings relievers who will probably be pretty good major leaguers compared to the average middle reliever. Guys like Anthony Claggett and Kevin Whelan. Same deal there – not much value as minor leaguers but a lot of value with even some major league success.
For example, compared to the beginning of the year the yankees could get a decent return for Veras or Ramirez if they wanted to trade them. Both those guys could be nice trading pieces.
My feeling is that they are eventually going to trade Kennedy and Marquez possibly Horne. Claggett, Kevin Whelan as well. If Kennedy has some success this year in the majors he becomes a very good trading piece. That’s a big factor.
If they make a run at Sabathia those guys will be involved – they are not trading Hughes or Joba (or Brackman). Otherwise I think they will package those kind of guys to get a first baseman in the off season.
They key think, IMO is how do you get some of these guys an opportunity at the big league level to increase their trade value while still trying to win.
Tim- Yes that kid Tim Vendette is with Staten Island, going next Friday to see them play. I hope he pitches.
I dont think he’s hurt – I think they just wanted to give Betemit an AB.
I hope everyone is listening to the conversation between Kay and Cone. Why would you even call for a trade for a pitcher when you have possibilities in the minors?
“they would all be fighting for the 4-5 spot since Hughes COULD be an ace as well.”
Yeah, it’s true…right now, those back-end-looking guys in AA aren’t worth much. If they get to AAA and are still looking decent, then they have some value. I’m loathe to trade anyone who could help this year because we might need more arms to try if/when Rasner and Giese flame out.
Anyone thinking Giambi is hurt… they’re up 7-0 in a game against a team that can’t score, and they pinch hit for him to get Betemit an at bat, who has barely played recently being in the NL and who will replace him defensively anyway to keep Giambi’s legs strong. He’s sitting there hanging out in the dugout, he’s clearly not hurt.
I don’t like that Girardi took Giambi out. He had a chance to hit 3 home runs and I’m sure he would want to go up again. Were that the case and Girardi decided to stick him on the bench anyway I think that was a bad call.
So I don’t think Giambi’s hurt. Probably just trying to get Wilson an AB or so–perhaps they’re auditioning Wilson for a trade or something?
“I’m curious, did he say that when Bedard was an Oriole? You don’t think that Jim Palmer might have been slightly biased himself, when he said that?”
Angel – nope –
Palmer said this after Bedard was moved. Palmer is unusual in that he is NOT an uber-homer like our broadcasters or worse the NESN mafia. The Palmer quote was in an intro profile of Bedard in the Seattle paper – here is the link:
http://seattletimes.nwsource.c.....rd100.html
not watching game. is jason hurt?
There’s nothing wrong with the ’stache. I think Girardi just likes seeing Betemit strike out. In all fairness, he hasn’t been striking out a lot lately, but he just looked silly during tonight’s at bat.
Im clamoring for Alan Horne but he needs another 4-5 starts because he missed so much time if he wasnt injured hes pitching Saturday but I think Giese can finesse his way on Saturday.
CJ Henry also has 2 straight games w/ a 2B
Veras has got the hot hand. I think that Hawkins is in the dog house.
I hope papi is still on his ouch for the all-star game it would be nice to see Giambi as the AL DH I dont wanna see 6 Red Sox in the final Yankee stadium AS game.
CB – thanks. Makes sense.
*couch
Fair enough, I just wondered when it was said. I still don’t want them going after him – but that’s just because I dont’ see him as the answer.
I get all the games on MASN when they play in Baltimore and I think while he’s a decent announcer, he does come across as a bit of a homer at times.
When does Brackman project to be up in the big leagues? Is he back from injury yet?
Just home from my sons Bris. Looks like I missed a lot. I’ll have to go through the thread and catch up. Not to mention I need to look up this Aceves kid, what’s the correct pronunciation? The Bris went well by the way, the kid only cried for a few minutes until he immersed himself into a few gauze pads full of wine. Ah alcohol, is there any problem you can’t solve? Ok back to the game.
“is how do you get some of these guys an opportunity at the big league level to increase their trade value while still trying to win.”
If someone’s showing something in AAA, you move Giese or Rasner to the pen and bring up the prospect. Obviously, they need to force your hand on that. Unless Ras and Giese manage to keep putting up really good numbers. Then…well, maybe you can package one of them
I betcha we see Mo tonight. He’s had three days off, right?
“muy bueno.â€
Is that Spanish for ‘moving forward?’
Maybe Giambi had to go groom his ’stache?
c’mon Veras
“When does Brackman project to be up in the big leagues? Is he back from injury yet?”
He’s not yet thrown a single pitch as a pro…we have no idea when he projects to be in the majors
He’s still on the TJ rehab train. Sanchez has started throwing BP, I’m pretty sure. Maybe even throwing in extended spring games. He could be an impact reliever next year.
Jeff:
מזל טו
Jeff- Mozeltov! Yeah its been a good game. Boston is winning 3-0 and Tampa is winning 2-1 in Tampa.
Joe is right to sit Jason. With a 7 run lead, nice to give some of the older guys rest to make sure they’ll stay strong for September.
But with 7 run lead, why use Veras? Why not use Hawkins or have a look at Traber and save Versa for Rasner tomorrow night?
TK,
No one questions Bedard’s talent. No one every has. He has great stuff. Absolutely nasty.
That’s never been the issue with him.
Unfortunately, everything else has always been an issue with him – attitude, healthy, “heart,” competitiveness, etc.
I know Bavasi is bitter but those issues with Bedard have been going on all season up in Seattle. Bavasi said that now but the reporters and fans have been questioning bedard’s commitment all season long.
Could you imagine a pitcher in NY just flat out refusing to throw more than 100 pitches. Just taking himself out of games?
At this point the Yankees DESERVE more players in the All Star game than the Sox
Giambi over Youk
Matsui over Ortiz
Damon should be in the OF with Manny
Jeter
Rodriguez
Mussina
But only 2-3 will actually make it, maybe Mussina. And who wants to make a bet Francona picks Papelbon and K Rod over Mariano. Francona is such a immature dick and hates the Yankees so much. He will pick Drew and Okajima as well (Drew deserves it)
“When does Brackman project to be up in the big leagues? Is he back from injury yet?”
TJ surgery is at least a year of rehab – then baby steps.
Humberto Sanchez might start pitching this summer but I believe Brackman is going to be on the shelf for a while.
Damn Jetes is getting lazy w/ that jump
I wanna barf that Pedroia is gonna start for the AL. If Cano had been Cano all year then that 15 year old looking tool wouldnt be near an AL ballot.
Jeff,
Congrats. Glad to hear the bris went well! Hope you’re getting some sleep.
why is girardi going to use all these relievers in a blow out? he almost makes me wish for torres handling of the pen
Some company needs to sponsor Yankee ’stache day. Give out fake staches for the kids.
Also, Veras will be cranky if Traber gives up these runs.
Well, the pen hardly got a workout in Houston, and there was an off-day yesterday. So why not give light assignments to a few guys that haven’t pitched in a few days. At least it’s not a Torre-Proctor thing.
I also feel bad that a Sux manager is the AL Manager this year. To be fair he picked Girardi as a coach. Okajima doesnt deserve it, Drew maybe, Manny yeah, Youk no but will win do to Sux nation zombies voting him in. Papelbon over MO= LOL if that happens then its pure bias and should be investigated.
As an aside – given Wang’s injury – one of the things that this game should really tell you is that you have to take the performance and statistics of pitchers from the NL west with a grain of sand.
The teams in that division just cannot hit. Outside of the really elite starters in the division – Webb, Peavy, Lincecum etc. you just can’t project how those guys will do if you trade for them.
Pitching in the NL West is just not the same as throwing in the AL East.
“why is girardi going to use all these relievers in a blow out? he almost makes me wish for torres handling of the pen”
I think it’s that they haven’t thrown in days. Veras hasn’t thrown since Friday, I think. You want your best guys to be sharp, you know? And Traber, well you want to get him right in there.
Thanks Rebecca, Al and CB. We’re actually getting plenty of sleep, got a baby nurse for a few weeks, so it’s been easy so far.
Welcome back Traber, get it done this time, we need a lefty in the pen.
whozat: You know they’re already on it.
Ollie warming.
“Francona is such a immature dick and hates the Yankees so much.”
This is the dumbest thing I have ever read on this blog.
when did it become standard to take out a starting pitcher throwing a shutout, when he is not coming back from an injury?
Betemit knows how to play first. What a play by A-Rod!
You can hate the sox if you want but Francona is a very good manager and a stand up guy.
Not so good by Traber.
CB –
I’m pretty sure Clemens took himself out of games, and Randy Johnson, and Kevin Brown, Jaret Wright maybe even (one of my favorites) Moose has – we’ve had our share of guys who are limited.’
I think the aspect that gets overplayed about Bedard is the run-ins he had with the FO of the O’s. He did not want to stay for obvious reasons and so he became a pain in the A$$.
This is hardly an unusual tactic for players today, like it or not.
So he was traded to a “contender” who turned out to be a pretender. I think he is tough enough to pitch in the AL East b/c he has done it successfully for 4 years. The press will be a problem if he struggles. The hip might be a problem although he has logged 180+ IP the past 3 years.
Like everything else – it depends on the deal – he is locked up for 1.5 years rather than CC’s .5 years – I just think if CC is looking for Santana money a 1.5 year test drive of Bedard makes sense.
Alex is having some game at 3rd.
great play by a rod, thats the second one tonight!!!
was that derek jeter playing third? nice play arod
off to get some nookie… sorry – nookie goes before yankees!
“This is the dumbest thing I have ever read on this blog.”
Do you watch the post game interviews from him after Yankee-Red Sox games? Especially like after Farnsworth ALMOST hit Manny? I guess you dont
“when did it become standard to take out a starting pitcher throwing a shutout, when he is not coming back from an injury?”
When managers realized that it’s pointless to have your starter throw 130 pitches in a game that you’re winning handily.
Sox players always annoy me but I have to say Pedroia, Youk and Papelbon incite a new level of hate in me. Pedroia- Reminds me of a garden gnome or one of the Loli-pop kids from “The Wizard of Oz”, Youk- Reminds me of Scott Ian from
Anthrax only without the musical talent, Papelbon- His wannabe death stare makes me wanna jump through the screen whenever he pitches.
Francona said Farnsworth should have a minimum of 5 game suspension with a huge (dont remember the amount) fine. He also declined comment on if the Red Sox would retaliate. I dont remember if there was a game after that, but what kind of “stand up guy” does that?
Cano might have found his stroke finally.
If so the offense will be awesome.
Austin Jackson how are you doing this week
Jun 13 @REA .200 1 for 5, RBI, R, HR
Jun 14 @REA .400 2 for 5, 2 RBI, 2 R, HR
Jun 15 @REA .200 1 for 5, RBI, R, HR
Jun 17 @HAR .800 4 for 5 4 RBI, R. HR
That’s .400 w/ 4 RBI and 4 HR in his last 4 games
He’s slacking because there are no doubles or triples in his line.
Cano’s looking good this game
“I’m pretty sure Clemens took himself out of games, and Randy Johnson, and Kevin Brown, Jaret Wright maybe even (one of my favorites) Moose has”
Taking yourself out of a game and having your stuff noticeably degrade as your pitch count approaches 100 are very different. I don’t think Wright or Moose has ever taken himself out, but Torre certainly didn’t feel like they could get outs anymore once they got to around 90-100 pitches. The other guys, I wasn’t paying much attention back when they were on the team. Especially Brown and Clemens.
Austin Jackson how are you doing this week
Jun 13 @REA .200 1 for 5, RBI, R, HR
Jun 14 @REA .400 2 for 5, 2 RBI, 2 R, HR
Jun 15 @REA .200 1 for 5, RBI, R, HR
Jun 17 @HAR .800 4 for 5 4 RBI, R. HR
That’s .400 w/ 8 RBI * and 4 HR in his last 4 games
He’s slacking because there are no doubles or triples in his line.
Youkilis honestly looks like a WWE wrestler. Pedroia will not amount to much as a baseball player. And Jon “my dog ate it” Papelbon, just so much hatred for him
“I also feel bad that a Sux manager is the AL Manager this year. ”
Francona is a nice guy, but I would guess that if the DEVIL rays continue to hang on and finish 3rd in the AL East – their manager would have a shot.
Francona hasn’t really done anything remarkable IMHO.
Melky still looking kinda poor at the plate. One good swing today.
I don’t like the Red Sox as a team, but Ortiz and Francona have always struck me as stand up guys.
They probably took Andy out because a) pitch count, and b) the bullpen hasn’t exactly had to work hard the last couple days.
What I think is funny is, I know and most people know there is no shot, but there hasnt even been any jokes about the Yankees signing Clemens since Wang went down
Pete, for the record, I think this is one of your best game posts this season.
I hated Ortiz from when he whined about not being chosen for the All Star Game one year and said that he deserved MVP more than Jeter. He’s a crybaby.
Ortiz is actually a nice guy. I saw him out in Anaheim in 2006 when he and Wily Mo were walking to his car and he walked with a bunch of fans talking to them. While Manny was off screaming in spanish to someone. His driver was no where to be found
wow pete, you are really keeping us updated tonight. good blogging
Odd that Headley doesn’t have a good arm. He was a 3B, no?
Is it me or has Abreu been in a minor slump. I keep noticing his average drop day after day.
Im just happy Ortiz isnt doing the “Call your shot” thing at the HR Derby. Even though they are still advertising him, I cant see anyway he will be ready and or willing to do it
I believe we’ve “turned the corner” my friends…and this team is ready to come together for a helluva run.
By the way, when we are dealing with young pitchers ya gotta look @ Kazmir (who we’d all agree is a STUD in training) tonight: 4 2/3, 110 pitches, 3 H, 1 ER, 4 BB, 7 K…
Tim he might be a nice guy outside of baseball but he’s a baby inside of it.
Cabrera is definitely slumping, maybe bringing up Gardner to play Center even for one day just so Melky gets that same wake up that Cano has gotten.
Francona is all bent out of shape about Farnsy trying to hit one of his players. Dude what about the past 5 years your pitchers have probably hit 4 times as many Yankees as Yanks pitchers have hit Red Sox batters. Ridiculous not to sound like my dad or anything but ” Don’t throw stones if you live in a glass house.”
“when did it become standard to take out a starting pitcher throwing a shutout, when he is not coming back from an injury?â€
‘When managers realized that it’s pointless to have your starter throw 130 pitches in a game that you’re winning handily.’
Is it pointless to add 1 to Pettitte’s career shutout total? It’s a fairly prestigious achievement. I guess it’s not enough of a point to risk an injury. Pettitte with his elbow must be in the permanent risk of injury category.
This will be 5 over .500. It’a about time.
Why is Mo pitching in an 8-0 game? When was the last time he pitched?
5 games over .500 and 5.5 out of the AL East and 3 games out in the WC
Hey –
Robbie is hitting .230!
Next stop .240
I love the commercial for Dunkin Donuts “I forgot about the sleeper-sofa(oh uh oh oh), I forgot all about the air hockey table.”
Headley was never considered to be a very good defensive player. Where he would play was always a question. People weren’t convinced that he could stay at third.
He was always about his bat.
I cant wait to see Joba on thursday, but the lineup is gonna suck since its a day after night game. Molina, Betemit oh well
Mo last pitched the final game in Oakland I think Girardi doesnt want him to go cold.
I gotta say I was with Laura. I didn’t call for any heads. I expected the Yankees to get to where they are. Nice moment for us Yankee fans.
“Is it pointless to add 1 to Pettitte’s career shutout total? It’s a fairly prestigious achievement. I guess it’s not enough of a point to risk an injury. Pettitte with his elbow must be in the permanent risk of injury category.”
It’s pointless to do this with ANY pitcher. If Andy was at 8 IP and 100 pitches…ok, maybe. If your pen needs the rest, ok. But he was at 7. There’s just no point in pushing any starter when you’re dominating a game AND you don’t have any particular need to rest your pen.
“Do you watch the post game interviews from him after Yankee-Red Sox games? Especially like after Farnsworth ALMOST hit Manny? I guess you dont”
Farnsworth?? Are you joking? 90% of the people on this blog can’t stand Farnsworth.
Francona’s never discussed the Yankees without mentioning the respect he has for the team. He was practically in tears when he talked about how much it meant to him that Torre and Jeter watched the ring ceremony in ‘05.
I don’t think that going after the psycho righty in the glasses qualifies him as a Yankee-hater.
Cashman had hair that year
Mo looks filthy right now.
Tomorrow, its Peavy vs. Rasner adn either it is a close one or a blowout in their favor. I know our bats are coming alive but I honestly dont think we aer going to score that much after scoring 13 on Sun and 7 tonight. Usually, we take an off day.
Wish they’d cut to Trevor Howard in the bullpen.
real nice stuff he had to say about Mariano.
Mo doesnt look rusty…
Yawn…Mo strikes out the side.
Sp in 2 years Sandman will break out the change up ? oh lord.
Mo is unreal
Cashman in 1998…Ahh when he actually cared about the Yankees. Cant say he doesnt care because he did build our farm, but I have no doubt he is bolting after this year
Giambi was a third baseman too, remember.
Game over YEAH! *Fist Pump*(followed by twirl and re-pump)
The Yankees continue to roll. 5 game winning streak. 5 games over .500. Going for 6 tomorrow night.
“Francona is all bent out of shape about Farnsy trying to hit one of his players.”
Yeah – I’m not a fan of people headhunting A-Rod or Jeter, so I can kind of sympathize with Tito.
It is the BS that Coco Crisp pulled when he was hit the right way that makes the MLB’s role necessary for Judge Bob Watson.
So * (I got too excited)
5 GAMES OVER .500
Nice Win!
Tim I think just the opposite. I can’t see Cashman wanting to leave.
I’ve been watching Rivera for over a decade and he still just leaves me shaking my head…..
Andy was at 103 after 7, he looked like he was starting to tire getting into longer counts. The last game, he threw like 113 and so you dont want him doing too much in straight starts unless the game is really close or really meaningful. When we are up by seven, what is the point in having Andy tire himself to get through another inning when we have every guy in our pen available.
Mo was beast!!!
Great Win Yanks!
I would just like to say ‘I told you so’ to all the haters who ‘guaranteed’ that this was a .500 team at best, who laughed at me when I said this team was capable of winning 90-95 on the year
Who cares how much we pay Mo? If he keeps pitching this way, I could care less.
Plus it ain’t my money…
5+
“It’s pointless to do this with ANY pitcher. If Andy was at 8 IP and 100 pitches…ok, maybe. If your pen needs the rest, ok. But he was at 7. There’s just no point in pushing any starter when you’re dominating a game AND you don’t have any particular need to rest your pen.”
well, as long as shutouts are counted as a statistical category, there will be A point to allow them to be pitched. You are probably accurately reflecting the current approach. But it’s surprising to me that players’ concern for their statistics, which determines certain other managerial decisions and certainly larger aspects of the game such as the DH rule, doesn’t extend to this area. I guess they see it as unrealistic for them to even come close to challenging the pitchers of the past in CGs and SHOs.
Picked a good time to make a run. The teams we vs. arent exactly any good and the Mets right now are the saddest team in baseball, second only to the Mariners who all I can say is shame, shame…
We scored TWENTY ONE runs in the last 2 games and gave up none!!!
Remember back in April/May when it would take us 10 games to score 21 runs?
Developing deeper respect for A-Rod all the time – he was just talking to suzyn about his defense – he said ‘it is contagious and picks up the pitchers, that is how you win world championships.’
Keeping him was not a bad off-season move – love that he is thinking about WS Rings in mid-June!
V I remember the hits you took. I think you more than earned that “I told you so!” It’s one thing to disagree but some posters got downright nasty with you for thinking the Yankees could win games!
I think we need to sweep the NL from here on out. We need to finish 16-0 after starting 0-2. Were 4-0 so far
Im just kidding by the way
Let Willie throw out first pitch at next Mets/Yanks game at stadium!
V there were a few of us who never gave up….I’m stil on the hook for a couple hundred that they win 92
Lots of Willie stuff on Baseball Tonight. Maybe even a few web gems for the Yankees. Olney calling Minaya a liar.
After what Mussina and Giambi have done for us, I think the least we can do is give them a ring before they depart. I seriously got the feeling of a Championship by looking at this team and what it could look like by August, and its the first time since 2004 I have felt like we have a real chance to win it all
It’s amazing what a difference a healthy ARod/Posada do for this offense.
Pat M the ones who never gave up were the ones who took the hardest hits. Go figure. I didn’t give up either.
wow 14 strikeouts for the team tonight nice.
Ooh, a win, nice. I like this offense proving me wrong about their living/dead status.
Alex has looked more than very good at 3B, I mean near GG candidate like. I wouldn’t put too much on the WS comment they need to do it not talk so much about it. I do think Girardi has had a bit of an influence on his attention to defense because this is the best I have seen him.
Andy Pettitte had 9 K’s wow
“After what Mussina and Giambi have done for us, I think the least we can do is give them a ring before they depart.”
Won’t they have a lot better chance of making this happen than “we” will?
tim, your dreaming. I’m a huge Yankee fan but even I can see that this team still as major, major problems
you like these matchups in the alcs (if we make it)
beckett vs. pettitte
dice k vs. mussina
lester vs. chamberlain
i don’t know. I still just don’t think we have the pitching depth to compete in the playoffs. didn’t last year, and the only change we made was move joba to the rotation
I don’t know, im a pessimist
My fantasy team says “Thank you” to Andy Pettitte
Despite Kazmir’s 4 2/3 innings, I’m at 0.77 ERA, 16 Ks, 1.11 WHIP on the week so far
You know what I mean..
an excess amount of Cubs fans at the Trop. tonight.
Mark…I recall after the Met series, several of us getting drilled…..They are doing what good teams do, take advantage of the schedule and beat up on the weak sisters….
“tim, your dreaming. I’m a huge Yankee fan but even I can see that this team still as major, major problems
you like these matchups in the alcs (if we make it)
beckett vs. pettitte
dice k vs. mussina
lester vs. chamberlain
i don’t know. I still just don’t think we have the pitching depth to compete in the playoffs. didn’t last year, and the only change we made was move joba to the rotation
I don’t know, im a pessimist”
Wang’ll be back by then. Hughes too. They probably WILL make a trade, but it’ll be a surprise deal (as they all are).
John I don’t know about anyone else but I’d take the Yankee pitchers in all of those matchups.
“But it’s surprising to me that players’ concern for their statistics, which determines certain other managerial decisions”
If any manager is allowing his concern for player stats to determine his decisions, he needs to be fired.
Yanks are playin some mighty fine baseball. Tomorrows pitcher is going to be a tough one in peavy. hopefully ras can shut em down.
You can really tell when andy is locked in. he gets the ball and he immedietly looks in and wants to throw. he works fast and really attacks the zone. It’s a fun thing to watch
“tim, your dreaming. I’m a huge Yankee fan but even I can see that this team still as major, major problems
you like these matchups in the alcs (if we make it)
beckett vs. pettitte
dice k vs. mussina
lester vs. chamberlain
i don’t know. I still just don’t think we have the pitching depth to compete in the playoffs. didn’t last year, and the only change we made was move joba to the rotation
I don’t know, im a pessimist”
Actually I do like those matchups. You forgot Wang since he is out until Sept. Plus our offense is better. Plus I still feel good about Hughes this year.
oh crap Jose Reyes got hurt.
Don’t know if anyone posted this
Aceves pitched really well tonight
here is his line
IP H R ER BB SO
8.0 1 0 0 2 4
Era is 1.64
Reyes not happy
Reyes now pissed off w/ Manuel as he pulls him.
Not to mention I still have a feeling were going to pull off a good pitching trade.
V, I won’t be surprised if there’s no trade. If the rotation holds up there won’t be a need for any trade. If Hughes or Kennedy manage to come through there’s already too many starters. We’d be crazy to make a trade unless our backs are really against the wall. Yankees backs that is.
Reyes and Jerry Manuel already not on good terms. Reyes calling Omar as we speak, lol.
Joe Mama a few times already. Aceves is a man amongst boys right now.
What happened with Reyes??
Come on Lackey!
**No Willie, no reason for me to root for the mets
“V, I won’t be surprised if there’s no trade. If the rotation holds up there won’t be a need for any trade. If Hughes or Kennedy manage to come through there’s already too many starters. We’d be crazy to make a trade unless our backs are really against the wall. Yankees backs that is.”
I think we will see -some- sort of trade, either by midseason, or shortly after the end of the season. This team has a -lot- of pitching depth in the minors, some of whom have to be left unprotected in the Rule V draft.
“What happened with Reyes??”
Appeared to tweak his hamstring (not major), and was pulled by Jerry Manuel, and obviously unhappy with being pulled.
The Mets problem is Reyes. It has been for a while. And say what you want but Beltran hates playing in NY.
Reyes acted like a baby when Manuel tried to take him out..
My fantasy team rues its ability to curse/decurse pitchers via activation/benching
What happened with Reyes??
ran hard to 1B and looked to be favoring his hammy, Manuel came out saw it did the right thing told Easley get your helmet, Jose in spanish was telling him No no no no then he was murmuring I’m ok , deja tu viana (stop your crap) btw it’s not that bad in english, but after 2 minutes of arguing on field he said cono threw his helmet on the field and stormed off into the locker room meanwhile Jerry went down there to calm him down.
Aceves –> AAAA pitcher
“consecutive shutouts for the first time since May 7-8, 2005″
woohoo
Ace Santana has already given up 2 runs in the first.
“I would just like to say ‘I told you so’ to all the haters who ‘guaranteed’ that this was a .500 team at best, who laughed at me when I said this team was capable of winning 90-95 on the year ”
Isn’t it a little early to be patting yourself on the back? We’re 5 games above .500. We just lost our ace. Our bullpen is still an issue. The only thing that’s been going great is our offense.
“Aceves –> AAAA pitcher”
Isn’t a AAAA pitcher a pitcher has succeeded at AAA and failed in the majors? Kinda hard to put that label on a AA guy, no?
He’s probably a solid #4, #5 guy down the line.
Ace Santana has already given up 2 runs in the first.
3
Wow, the Mets look bad.
3-1 already…wow – that manager change really worked out for them
Peavy tomorrow right? Oy. He will be tough.
Hopefully, Rasner will bounce back from his last performance and not channel his inner Igawa
Hey Eugie a
I went to tonight’s Trenton game. Thought I’d report back, esp. since folks seem interested in Aceves tonight.
Harrisburg isn’t a great hitting team, but nevertheless Aceves was dominant. 8 shutout innings, one hit. A couple of walks, but DPs erased them. As was noted, he doesn’t have overpowering stuff, but he knows how to pitch. Good curve when he can throw it for strikes, nice tailing fastball that moves in on righthanders.
Austin Jackson was also dominant. Four hits, including a 3 run HR to left center. Not quite as fast as I expected; he was caught stealing once. But very impressive nonetheless.
I’ll be going to Wed. and Thursday’s games as well, so feel free to let me know if there’s someone you’d like me to keep an eye on.
Michael
sub 2.0 era for the pen in last bunch of games is pretty good
not the greatest start for the Mets tonight
Eugie I think you gotta give V his props. Some posters were vicious when V said the Yankees could get the job done. At least so far, he’s right and they’re wrong. It looks to me like the Yankees will manage to overcome their problems. They lost their ace but that’s one game in 5. They have guys in the minors and they still have Kennedy. Hughes will be back at some point. Nobody thought Rasner would get the job done either. Am I missing something about the bullpen? I think the pen’s been great.
I think V is more right than wrong.
Wow, I hope Wooly is sitting at home in front of his big screen with his family watching the Mets implode in Manuel’s first inning.
Reyes is a child. Talented player, but the attitude is unbearable. Bet he’ll be trying to undermine Manuel by crying to Omar from the trainers room.
Looks like the Mets are trying to sabotage Manuel just like they did Willie.
Must make Omar feel good to see his team place this well for the new skip.
They just stink.
beckett vs. pettitte
dice k vs. mussina
lester vs. chamberlain
.
I LOVE those matchups….we WIN all of those games….BeckJerk stinks…and so does Dice-W…and are you kidding ???….Lester vs Joba…..SWEEP that series, dude….take your pessimistic garbage to the curb, boy !
good stuff ML. Thanks
I wonder if Fred Wilpon, that old Lafayette HS baseball star, is paying attention. If he is, what must he think of Omar for buying him this collection?
I feel a little bit of pity not for Mets management but for Jerry Manuel because he’s going to be judged for every little thing. That’s not fare to nobody.
stupid celtics
I have an idea for Minaya –
Make Reyes “player-coach”
Billy Wagner can be the pitching coach.
Delgado can be the hitting coach.
Since those guys already run the freakin team, the transition should be seamless
Did Keith Hernandez hear the same Omar press conference that I did?
Was Omar emotional? I couldn’t tell with all the crap I was hearing from him.
Fakers getting punk’d in Boston. It’s only a matter of time now.
Thanks for the eye-witness info ML!
I’m getting excited about A-Jax – I wonder if he projects to a corner outfielder or CF.
BTW – Tabata continues to scuffle
I agree S.A – seemed a little too “party line” for my taste…
Injury. Reyes pissed at the manager. Delgado error. Santana disappointing.
After only one inning, Manuel’s Mets look no different from Willie’s Mets.
“Fakers getting punk’d in Boston. It’s only a matter of time now.”
I can’t watch basketball. I just can’t. We turned it on earlier just to check the score and saw a classic play – Celtics player with the ball, charges a Laker who’s just standing there, runs into his arm (Laker doesn’t move), trips, and a foul is called on the Laker.
I can’t watch that garbage. It makes no sense, whatsoever.
Reed, what the hell was that?
how about aceves?
good lord maybe he is the answer to our prayers..(we could have pitched igawa with the kind of offense we have been having the last two nights) and why would we trade… we have some considerable talent down in the farm… I like this, I have not in a while been able to project a bullpen solely made from prospects… (I could be getting carried away) STICK WITH THE FARM CASH
“I can’t watch that garbage. It makes no sense, whatsoever.”
Sort of like Giambi flinching slightly and getting called out on a swinging strike 3?
I’m getting excited about A-Jax – I wonder if he projects to a corner outfielder or CF.
CF and he’s fast, seriously IDK what ML is talking about, maybe he caught him in an off day but Austin has close to Granderson/Maybin speed.
BTW – Tabata continues to scuffle
Youngest in AA and they adjusted his swing this month. So he’s in transition of learning to pull pitches during game AB
Unless it was just a teaser Arod definitely at least one of the web gems.
I love seeing the Rays jam it to Lou. He couldn’t get away from them fast enough. Revenge is sweet.
I am so sick of Boston having great sports teams it keeps me up at night. Kobe is a chump nice 4-2 loss there mvp.
What kind of Yankee fan roots for Tampa. Dude they are still ahead of us I’m rooting for the Cubbies.
This basketball game is pretty much over…
Unless the Lakers put on the mother of all comebacks
The Yanks won tonight, but so did the rest of the AL East. It sucks why does the NL have to blow so hard.
Santana better find himself tonight.
The only good thing about the Celtic winning tonight is that it ends basketball season and we will stop hearing about how great they are after about another 4 months.
I can’t stand the officiating in basketball. I don’t like either team in the finals, but I really can’t stand the Celtics and their academy award winning actress, Pierce.
The Mets are very entertaining.
Yankees scored 2 unanswered runs for the first time since 1948, Arod had Web gem #4 and Melky had #1
The Mets season is over. Even if they can pull it together, which I doubt, the Phillies look like the real deal this year. Baring injuries, they may actually be the best team in the league.
Question…Given the state of affairs in Flushing, who would want that managerial job???
ok – that should be 24 unanswered runs
Santana the Ace getting roughed up. hes no Pettitte…25-2 in the NL my ass
Arod number 3 web gem. Melky number one.
Great night for the Yankees.
“Eugie I think you gotta give V his props. Some posters were vicious when V said the Yankees could get the job done. At least so far, he’s right and they’re wrong. It looks to me like the Yankees will manage to overcome their problems. They lost their ace but that’s one game in 5. They have guys in the minors and they still have Kennedy. Hughes will be back at some point. Nobody thought Rasner would get the job done either. Am I missing something about the bullpen? I think the pen’s been great.
I think V is more right than wrong.”
Sorry I don’t see it that way. It looks more like he’s celebrating in June. I prefer looking at the end product. The pen is still an issue with Farnsworth setting up for Mo. We’ve been lucky lately but it’s not going to last if it stays that way. Girardi may be too stubborn to let the better arm in Veras take over that role but we’ll see.
Losing Wang is a big deal. It isn’t just 1 game out of 5. He was the one that went deep into games. Kennedy and Hughes are not replacements for that. Those 2 are still experiments and suffer from major “growing pains”. Joba is also a rookie too and people need to remember that.
I cant wait until next season and Pierce getting fined for his flops. He is sooo bad and obvious at it. Pierce is garbage. Add Garnett to the Knicks and they would win the championship. Dont even need Allen, just Garnett
ML.. Thanks for the Trenton update….
give us the highlights each day, please.
Wow, they even talked about the Mets on Jon Stewart
Eugie I don’t remember exact inning for Rasner but Pettitte and Mussina go deep into games. Even if they get us into the 7th, that doesn’t kill our pen. I’m thinking Joba will be able to give us innings too.
Losing Wang is bad but it isn’t fatal.
The Mets are abysmal.
That Mets troll who was in here earlier must be contemplating his next raid and how to defend his beloved Mets. He actually tried to compare the Joe Torre situation to the Willie Randolph situation, what a typical idiot troll.
The Mets with this team and this payroll is an embarassment to baseball. Add in their front office, and they are an embarassment to the human race.
And losing Wang ISNT the end of our season or close to it. We won tonight without him. Thats the thing about pitchers, they only play once every 5 days. Were not going to get a loss everytime someone takes his spot in the rotation. Pettitte is very good in the 2nd half. Mussina is doing very well. The offense has been hot since Posada and Arod returned.
Delgado sucks haha
So…
I’m thinking tomorrow we also won’t be able to play the “fatso and fruitloops Bronson Arroyo” drinking game.
Sad….maybe by friday!
Reyes making an appearance back in the dugout. Aww getting along with his new manager.. You think Santana wishes he went to the Mets now, More money from us, better team, and a better record. Is he still all of the writers pick for CY Young?
Tonight’s player of the game is ….
Pete Abe. Incredible coverage with lots of power (18 solid updates) All around great game.
Oh and the Yankees played well too.
Love the poster who said they won without Wang today.
Right, they also won without Moose, Whitey Ford, Red Ruffing and Catfish Hunter. Wang wasn’t scheduled to pitch.
The Yankees will win plenty of games. But they’ll miss CMW. He has been one of the best, most consistent pitchers in the game for 2+ seasons. They’ll do just fine but it’s going to be a lot more difficult now.
Love the poster who said they won without Wang today.
Right, they also won without Moose, Whitey Ford, Red Ruffing and Catfish Hunter. Wang wasn’t scheduled to pitch.
The Yankees will win plenty of games. But they’ll miss CMW. He has been one of the best, most consistent pitchers in the game for 2+ seasons. They’ll do just fine but it’s going to be a lot more difficult now.
That would be me. And its obvious were going to miss CMW, you dont know much about baseball if you wouldnt miss a player like that, but I still believe we will win 90-93 games without him
Pete,
Are you sure? I’d swear Ruffing pitched the sixth.
No doubt that the Yankees will miss CMW in the rotation. Its tough to make up the number of games he wins each year.
It will be interesting to see how the Yankee front office looks to fill in the gap. I see call ups for bit, but how solid will that be?
Joba might fill in a big role in the rotation, but its way too early to tell now.
If Joba didnt come into the rotation we would be in a lot of trouble. I think Rasner will crap out soon, and they will try one more option in his spot, if he doesnt work, I think a trade will be in order and not some scrub
People really have to stop defending Rasner because when he collapses whether it be injury or just sucking it up, you will all be even more pissed. Just accept it now. He throws the ball right down the plate. Wait until he faces the Sox or the Angels or Tigers he is going to get rocked
UPDATE, 5:59 p.m.: OK, you’ll love this.
Moose so funny and cute
Moose for CYA GO! you can do it