Game 73: Padres at Yankees
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YANKEES (39-33)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Posada DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Chamberlain RHP
Josh Banks (2-0, 1.29) vs. the New York hitters.
Joba Chamberlain (1-2, 2.48) has never faced any of the San Diego hitters.
Notes: Thanks to Brian Heyman for calling in the lineup. … Hideki Matsui’s “just a day” knee injury is now two days. But based on what he said last night, he should be OK and is likely available to pinch hit. … This Start No. 4 for Joba Chamberlain in The Process. He can go to 105 pitches or so. He has yet to win any of his starts but pitched very well against the Astros in his last outing, allowing one run in six innings.
Back later with updates. Enjoy the game.
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Chad Jennings
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I hope Matsui isn’t hurt a lot worse than was reported.
day game
we are home tomorrow, i don’t get it. you think the Padres would have a day game on account of Yankees travel if in SD? i think not.
With the quick turnaround they probably decided to give Matsui one more day.
The Yanks going for 7 in a row and the sweep. Let’s go Yankees!
Yankee stadium never seems to have a problem filling up, even in day games.
Pete -
The difference between what Cashman said and what Girardi said really seems to tick you off, no? Doesn’t seem like the substance was all that significant between 1 day off and the couple days it actually will be.
Maybe there is more to it than you have conveyed – but I think we all want Girardi to be straight up with us as fans and you guys as beat writers.
If something happens w/ Matsui, Brian Giles is the perfect fill in.
on my way to the stadium now. Train is packed with Yankee shirts and hats. Should be a nice crowd
Someone brought up Jerry Manuel’s comments in the previous post but I think the snippet from rotoworld is hilarious:
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Explaining what happened when Jose Reyes put up a fight when asked to leave Tuesday’s game with a hamstring injury, manager Jerry Manuel joked: “I told him next time he does that I’m going to get my blade out and cut him. I’m a gangster. You go gangster on me, I’m going to have to get you. You do that again, I’m going to cut you right on the field.”
Manuel has been on the job for less than a week, but that has to be the leader in the clubhouse for managerial Quote of the Year. He was known as a relatively laid back manager while with the White Sox, but has apparently been sharpening his blades and taking gangster lessons since then. Reyes returned to the lineup Wednesday and went 3-for-5 with a steal, three runs and zero incidents of going gangster.
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I think the Yanks need a coach that can go gangster on Robbie Cano once in awhile.
actually Brett Gardner is the best option if matsui goes down. Abreu plays dh Gardner in rf
“Hideki Matsui’s “just a day†knee injury is now two days”
Could it be that they gave him an extra day as a precaution. If he pinch hits tonight then it really will have been just a day that he missed.
“Abreu plays dh Gardner in rf”
Gardner doesnt have the arm for RF. youd prob have Melky shift from CF to RF, and Gardner slot into CF… but thats only if they DH Abreu.
“actually Brett Gardner is the best option if matsui goes down. Abreu plays dh Gardner in rf”
Boo. Gardner does not have the arm for RF, and his bat is unlikely to be much better than Melky’s. Giles gets on base a TON, and that’s not inflated by petco. Though, as Matsui’s mostly a DH, one thinks we could find someone DHier (and thus cheaper) as a replacement.
I don’t see any problem with sitting Hideki.
Jorge has caught 2 nights in a row, the game last night ended at midnight and we now have a 1pm game. So DHing Jorge and giving Matsui an extra day of rest sounds like two birds in one stone to me. Johnny and Giambi are both super hot now so it makes sense to play those two and sit Matsui and his sore knee.
I only said Gardner in rf and melky in cf because I thought people would bash me. I would rather Gardner in cf
tim –
It is a surly and tough crowd – even in the middle of a nice win streak.
Enjoy the game – Go Yanks!
from Olney today:
“The Padres were shut down by Andy Pettitte the other night. “That was the best he’s ever looked to us,” said San Diego GM Kevin Towers. “Better than he was in the ‘98 World Series. Incredible. You could see it when he was warming up, in his tempo and the way the ball was moving and how he was spotting everything. He was dominant.”
Towers chuckled at the suggestion that the Chien-Ming Wang injury is enough to take down the Yankees. “Their offense is rolling now,” he said. “Their offense is one of the two best we’ve seen.”
and, Pete gets the shoutout on Olney’s blog today, too… congrats.
The discussion above about Brett in RF or not started me thinking. Why is throwing ability in RF more important than in CF?
Barry Bonds…come on down!!
if we can add Ponson, why not sign Bonds to fill in for ‘Zilla?
i was thinking Gardner play left and DH Damon. but i guess that’s just me…
Wang is a huge hit but why would it eliminate us? We have THE deepest lineup in the bigs with a pretty good rotation not great but not bad
Whozat this is a big reason to like Brian Giles
.301/.404/.446 overall season
.305/.396/.480 vs RHP
.293/.420/.380 vs LHP
between May and June leading off an inning .395 OBP %
RISP .263/.421/.456
.386/.449/.545 (w/ a runner on 1B)
Who wouldn’t love that and he gives defense and is a gamer.
“The discussion above about Brett in RF or not started me thinking. Why is throwing ability in RF more important than in CF?”
how often does an outfielder, any outfielder, throw to first base? how often do they throw to third?
Gee Tim, kinda early to be heading out to the stadium.
where are you, sheepshead bay?
saucY, you can definately do that, too.
A-rod is a machine over under 3 hits today..Going to the game and I am going after Kyle”the hick” Farnsworth. I am going to verbally abuse and probably swing at him a couple of times..
Last night David Cone was talking about how in 1998, they would have Homer Bush come in and pinch run late in the game and he was a great weapon because of his speed. You have to think that Gardener could do the same thing this year, and most likely will get called up in September (or briefly prior to that, if they want him on the playoff roster).
Giles would also cost a few prospects and because were so deep anyone we lose Is a big loss especially for giles
“The discussion above about Brett in RF or not started me thinking. Why is throwing ability in RF more important than in CF?”
Helps to have big arm in RF to keep guys from going 1st to 3rd on you all day. Having an arm in center is nice, but secondary to having a guy who can cover the ground.
The Yankees lose their top pitcher for most of the year and they won’t trade for a replacement. I really doubt that they’re going to be trading for an old expensive DH, no matter how good he is, to replace a guy a few days.
Anyone but Farnsworth -
Don’t worry – I think SJ44 is a lawyer and would gladly defend you pro bono – lol
No jury made up of Yankee fans would convict you.
the game is at one I’m on the train until around 1115 and the subway takes a halghour so I’ll be there an hour early.
The problem with Gardner as a pinch runner is cashman said he wants Gardner playing everyday
how often does an outfielder, any outfielder, throw to first base? how often do they throw to third?
Well Brett has gunned down runners at home plate in AAA more often than not. I just think w/ Matsui the warning signs are there, knee pain and on both of them you need to be prepared if something comes up trade deadline w/ Matsui then Brian Giles wouldn’t be a bad replacement. Giles gives just as good on offense if not better on defense than Matsui or any current OF on this roster. The combo of Melky, Giles and Gardner to close out a game in the OF would be a beautiful sight.. No ?
I seem recall the last time Giles contract came up he publicly stated he didn’t want to play for the Yankees.
Giles is a very good player, that I agree, but doubt he would come to the Yankees.
Giles would also cost a few prospects and because were so deep anyone we lose Is a big loss especially for giles
Whoa whoa whoa the market for Brian Giles isn’t that expensive, a relief pitcher and a guy like Juan Miranda can net him. Giles isn’t seen in the market that strongly which is why it would be an under the radar type of thing. Awhile ago I saw the Red Sox wanted him then I asked myself why ? his numbers surprised the crap out of me, in OBP % he is 12th overall in the whole MLB.
giles Gardner and Damon would be a beautiful sight in the OF
random- has anyone heard anything about bringing us Christian as maybe a pinch runner/ utility guy as opposed to betemit? he’s been hot lately (15-35) and would provide a much faster pinch runner and as a viable option to sit Cano in his recent slump (I realize he has hit in the last three games but only one or two to me showed a turnaround from what I have been seeing)
and I don’t mind ramirez BUT WHY DO WE STILL EVEN PITCH FARNSWORTH, I WOULD ALMOST RATHER SEE IGAWA (okay maybe he’s not that bad)
That’s why Matsui is DH’ing for the most part this year. To save his knees.
While some folks go crazy each day when the lineup is posted in here, you now see the method to Girardi’s “madness”. He has to keep Giambi, Matsui and Damon healthy. To do so, he has to rotate off days for them or they will break down as the season goes on.
This team doesn’t need another hitter. They need 3 things: Pitching, pitching and pitching.
They aren’t going to the playoffs with Ponson, Giese, and Rasner fighting it out for the 4th and 5th slots in the rotation.
They are band aids until a viable trade market forms. Any win (like last night) the Yankees get from those guys, you take it and be very happy. Regardless of how the game played out.
If Cash is going to make moves (and he will, IMO) it will be to upgrade the pitching staff, not the offense.
If Matsui goes down, Posada will DH more and Molina and Moeller will catch.
Guys –
Matsui just had his knee drained – relax with the replacement talk -
it isn’t like he has to go play a round of US Open golf or something dangerous like that.
Do we want to lose a guy like Miranda and someone like cox for a giles rental?
Eric:
All Homer Bush could do is run. He offered no other skills. Gardner is in a mini funk right now, but he stands to be a more complete offensive player than Bush ever dreamed of being. Doesn’t serve him well to watch games from the bench in hopes of a pinch running opportunity to come up. They have guy’s in the minors with skill sets closer to Homer’s (read: speed and nothing else) they can bring up for that purpose. I wouldn’t bring up Gardner, unless I can play him.
wrong SK
Offensive. Offensive. Offensive.
Look, we’ve had no post season offensive since 2004.
You can’t have too many bats.
TKinDC- hahahahahahahahahahaha im sorry pointless post but that was hilarious
SJ don’t forget actual range in the OF defense too. Pitching is priority #1 but one must not forget defense in covering those OF gaps and limiting the baserunners effectiveness.
Tim right now is not the time to do this, this is just a break glass in case of emergency type of thing. I don’t know why but Matsui and knees getting drained and everything is alright doesn’t make me say ..Ohhhhh don’t worry.
joba time….lets get this win today.
just passing the stadium. Does anyone know if they are bringing the big bat over or creating a new one?
Brandon,
Giles is not that good of an OF. He’s also in his late 30’s, lefthanded, and makes over 10 million this year.
Not seeing him as anybody the Yankees would be interested in taking unless he’s a “throw in” for a Peavy deal. lol
Just kidding on the Peavy part!
If they need an OF, think smaller and not bigger. They won’t add a lot of payroll for a 4th OF.
“Whoa whoa whoa the market for Brian Giles isn’t that expensive, a relief pitcher and a guy like Juan Miranda can net him.”
That would probably get you Marcus Giles. That’ll get you hung up on for Brian Giles.
You post how good Giles’ numbers are and then you propose the Yankees trade garbage to get him.
“Does anyone know if they are bringing the big bat over or creating a new one?”
i actually havent heard anything about the future status of the big bat… makes me think there wont be one at all at the new stadium.
They are showing the Game today in Singapore!! I cant wait to watch it! Finally get to see Joba pitch. Hopefully he gets his first win and yankees continue the run!! Hmmm why poasada and not molina as catcher? Betermint look good last night!
“Who wouldn’t love that and he gives defense and is a gamer.”
I agree Giles is a great player but calling a ballplayer a “gamer” is now officially on my list of buzz words that I hate. It doesn’t MEAN anything. Others include:
scrappy
clutch
gritty
sneaky fast
21-8… Yankees Record in June 2008
So are we going to take bets on Mike explaining away Bronson’s great preformance last night? And why we should still trade for him?
Patrick – I would like to add “gets his uniform dirty” to that list. That only matters in little league.
hey, Patrick, what about Michael Kay’s annoying one of the night last night:
max effort!
He has 1 more year after this SJ
06-08: $9M annually, 09: $9M option ($3M buyout)
It’s more bat replacement plus the defense incase of emergency. Throwing ideas out there.
“Patrick – I would like to add “gets his uniform dirty†to that list. That only matters in little league.”
Actually PUD(Percentage of Uniform Dirty) is a very viable stat.
I wish Chad Moeller could be on the rotation in Game3, 2003~2007 Banks vs Moeller 5AB 0.800 3HR 5RBI, better than Molina.
TV note for those interested in the Staten Island Yankees – the game tonight versus the Brooklyn Cyclones is on SNY at 7PM.
“So are we going to take bets on Mike explaining away Bronson’s great preformance last night? And why we should still trade for him?”
Despite how annoying it is to hear his name over and over, I think Arroyo would be a good addition to this team as well.
The Yankees still have a shot at finishing June 21-8 !!!
You post how good Giles’ numbers are and then you propose the Yankees trade garbage to get him.
First off I’m not saying do it I’m saying this is an “incase” and secondly it’s simple because he is not on high demand, the demand dictates market. If there is only one team looking to deal and Kevin Towers feels that all there is w/ the Pads having a buy out team option for him they would look to deal for what they can get. Again not saying to do it. Not rushing into anything this is an incase of type thing.
“Actually PUD(Percentage of Uniform Dirty) is a very viable stat.”
Yes but its only useful when calculating SORP (Scrappiness Over Replacement Player).
Oliver
#1 day after night, (the game ended at midnight)
#2 He is coming back from an injury.
Brandon how do you know what the demand on Brian Giles is? Just because you didn’t realize until recently that he’s a good player doesn’t mean GM’s don’t know he’s good.
Giles has not been the same since drug testing came into the league………….and do you think his OBP results from being one of only two people on the whole team who can actually hit a ball out of the infield?
As for Arroyo last night he showed how he still is the same SP that ended up taking butt whoopings in the AL and ended up w/ a 4.92 1st half and 4.05 2nd half ERA.
I thought we had a rightfielder in Abreu, but if the Padres want to unload Giles, get him and trade Abreu, in his walk year for a good pitcher.
Here’s a trade Abreu, Farnsworth, both in their walk years, plus 2 minor leaguers for Matt Holiday and Brian Fuentes, both whom the Rockies will have trouble resigning!!
Hope Joba can continue progressing in his start…
I gotta go eat and whatnot, but back by gametime.
K thanks Jenifer
Patrick,
SORP is definitely another good one. David Eckstein usually leads the league in SORP and PUD.
and do you think his OBP results from being one of only two people on the whole team who can actually hit a ball out of the infield?
I’m sorry but are you trying to say San Diego’s offense better than ours ?
It’s encouraging how far the system has come in the last 3 years. We have approx 10 pitchers on the DL, including 3/5 of the opening day rotation and some key relievers as well. Most teams have a couple pitchers on the DL, how many teams can be competitive when faced with so many injuries to the staff? It was just a few years ago we were pulling the likes of Al Leiter and Scott Erikson off the scrap pile to fill spots.
We are in the midst of a winning streak and Wang’s spot hasn’t come up yet, but still, our organization pitching depth (not necessarily high quality) is as deep as it gets.
Anyone care to calculate Melky’s VORC (Value Over Replacement Cabrera)? Seems like there are nearly Cabrera’s as Rodriguez’s lately…
I despise Bronson Arroyo. He hits batters like crazy, and you know theyre almost all intentional. I will never root for the guy ever since his Red Sox days.
Why not throw Freddy Garcia into the mix for the rotation. He’s a free agent and won’t take too long to get into shape. He’s been there before and has had some pretty impressive success in the past, like with the Mariners. He’s no Pedro or Johan, but he’s at least competent enough to make the rotation competition more interesting than Giese will.
I know that Derek Lowe is not someone that some of you think highly of, but he’s a FA next year and could be a very valuable pitcher. He gives you innings and will keep you in ballgames. He’s starting to look like the best option to me. Plus, I’d love for Red Sox fans to have to see him in a Yankees uniform.
Obviously a guy like Burnett is the best option as far as potential FA go, but the Blue Jays wouldn’t trade him in the east without asking for a TON of talent.
Isn’t Melky the prototypical replacement Cabrera?
“nearly as many” – All the cool kids are leaving out words when they speak nowadays.
I have to agree with SJ. Giles is good, but doesn’t make sense. We already have a log jam of aging left handed hitters. If Matsui misses time, which I don’t think he will, they could call up Gardner (and DH Damon since he’s the weakest outfielder). I do believe Cashman will try to make a trade , but it will be for a pitcher, and it won’t be until much closer to the deadline.
Looking forward to Joba
“a guy like Burnett is the best option as far as potential FA go”
in case people havent been paying attention, Ben Sheets has had a quiet, but very productive year in Milwaukee so far.
he has an injury history, sure, and with Zambrano’s potential shoulder injury, the Brewers arent likely to move Sheets if they think they are still in it, but Sheets would be a valuable addition the way he’s pitched this season.
i think there’s more Gonzolaz’s than Cabreras or Rodriguez’s this year. i’d have to check though.
On a funny subject, anyone looking for laughs that hasn’t been over to It Is High this morning should read this ‘timeline’ on Sidney Ponson’s career. Funny, funny stuff.
Normally don’t like to link other blogs here, but this is an hysterical, quick read.
http://johnsterling.blogspot.c.....onson.html
dammit GCL Yanks got rained out.
“Why not throw Freddy Garcia into the mix for the rotation.”
Correct me if I’m wrong but I believe Cashman ruled Garcia out because a) he wouldn’t be available for another month+ and b) we don’t need another pitcher with injury concerns.
I agree that Sheets is an even better pitcher with more talent than Burnett, but that’s an awfully high price for a rental with major injury concerns.
Even if he sign him, he could turn out to be Carl Pavano II.
Again, I’m looking at Derek Lowe, especially for the innings he could give. THe Dodgers will need to fall out of contention and go on a losing streak for them to consider trading him. Let’s give the Igawa’s, Giese, and Ponson’s a chance while we scope out the league for tailspinning teams with OK arms.
Two things about all this talk:
If Gardner was ML ready, he’d be in the major leagues. He’s not and he isn’t. Just because he’s fast doesn’t make him great. Damon is fast, and he hits WAY better than Gardner ever will.
About trades, I read a great comment a few days ago. If the trade doesn’t hurt on both sides, it isn’t a good trade. Stop acting like other teams want our bad players for their good players, no matter what the contracts say.
I’m a little late to the discussion but:
“Explaining what happened when Jose Reyes put up a fight when asked to leave Tuesday’s game with a hamstring injury, manager Jerry Manuel joked: “I told him next time he does that I’m going to get my blade out and cut him. I’m a gangster. You go gangster on me, I’m going to have to get you. You do that again, I’m going to cut you right on the field.—
What? Oh my lord. LOL. Can you imagine if Girardi said that? It would be code red in Yankees land…lol
Well, I hope Joba does well today! Ugh day game.
Today it will be gameday and listening to crazy and crazier watching the game. I have my shot glass ready in case the Bronson Arroyo drinking game starts up again today.
has anyone noticed that whoever we are currently playing, someone on this blog brings up the point that we should trade for one of there pitchers?
Not just pitchers but players as well. Good point.
Just wait until tomorrow when all the talk shifts to trading Juan Miranda and Bernie Castro for Jay Bruce and Edison Volquez.
more like griffey for melky
No, they won’t propose Melky for Griffy because then where would Gardner play?!?!
What? Oh my lord. LOL. Can you imagine if Girardi said that? It would be code red in Yankees land…lol
I’d be a blip on the radar screen, Now if Joba pumps his fist it’s spitting in the face of the game and making violent gestures towards the crowd.
just arrived. Subways were packed. The monument Park line is closed already. Everyone comes
out to see joba
I’ll link some pictures when I get home
“Just wait until tomorrow when all the talk shifts to trading Juan Miranda and Bernie Castro for Jay Bruce and Edison Volquez.”
Cincinnati would have to throw in a few more lower level prospects. Unfair trade for the Yanks.
and the trade you proposed is ridiculous… they would at least want Igawa… (pitcher for pitcher)
Matsui’s knee problems are just another reason why it makes more sense to sign Tex in the offseason that it does C.C.
The position players are getting older. There is a bounty of young pitching in the minors that should come up to the bigs in the next few years -Brackman, Betances, McAllister, Heredia, Cole, Bleich – to add one (hopefully) to Joba, Hughes and Kennedy.
Position players – not so much. Other than Montero and A-Jax, there really aren’t any high-ceiling prospects in the farm system. The offense has to come from somewhere.
Tex gives you a very good bat and terrific glove at first base, and he will be in his prime. It also makes sense for the Yankees to try to trade for a young outfielder.
As for Giles, he’s a player I really wanted the Yankees to go after a few years ago. While he’s on the downside, I think he would be a great-fill in if Matsui is hurt for an extended period. You have to consider that Petco has probably really sapped his power numbers.
“Now if Joba pumps his fist it’s spitting in the face of the game and making violent gestures towards the crowd.”
LOL. So true
“Now if Joba pumps his fist it’s spitting in the face of the game and making violent gestures towards the crowd.â€
Joba pumps his fist? Bush league. DFA him.
Just wait until tomorrow when all the talk shifts to trading Juan Miranda and Bernie Castro for Jay Bruce and Edison Volquez.
What ! that’a an outrage I’d atleast expect Bill Bray and Joey Votto as throw ins
I would never disrespect the game and would play for the league minimum. Plus I once threw a no-hitter in 8th grade. I’m also in way better shape than Ponson. Let me pitch against the Mets!
Hopefully JOba can get more then two strikeouts.I like how Girardi said it’s okay because you don’t want to have too much strikeouts because you might throw too many pitches.
Thats like saying A-Rod shouldn’t hit too many homeruns.JOba better start dominating and not end up like WAng having 199 hits in 199 innings.Joba needs to step it up.THe Astors and now Padres aren’t good teams.
“Damon is fast, and he hits WAY better than Gardner ever will.”
I wouldn’t call Damon fast. I would call Crawford fast. I’d say Gardner is fast. It’s always interesting when people are sure about what a 24 year old will ever do.
Ok MoBoy…
It’s NOTHING like saying A-Rod shouldn’t hit too many homeruns. They want Joba to go deep into the game today and if he strikes out ten he’ll only go 5-6 instead of 7. A dominating pitcher doesn’t have to strike everybody out to be effective (see Wang).
“No, they won’t propose Melky for Griffy because then where would Gardner play?!?!”
My first LOL of the day. Thanks.
“It’s NOTHING like saying A-Rod shouldn’t hit too many homeruns. They want Joba to go deep into the game today and if he strikes out ten he’ll only go 5-6 instead of 7. A dominating pitcher doesn’t have to strike everybody out to be effective (see Wang).”
I disagree – if A-Rod is hitting homeruns then chances are he isn’t fouling off enough pitches and making the opposing pitcher work, which is the Yankee plan.
Of course, I’m just kidding.
I agree with what girardi said – I’d MUCH rather Joba get a guy to ground out in 3 pitches then strike him out in 6-7. He’s a power pitcher and in a situation where he needs a strike out he’ll be able to get it, but for the most part keep the pitch count down, go deep into ball games and throw up as many zeros as you can
“Don’t try to strike everybody out. Strikeouts are boring! Besides that, they’re fascist. Throw some ground balls – it’s more democratic.”
- c. davis
So moboy. BecUse joba didnt have 10 strikeouts in his 6 innings it was a failure? Damn I would hate to be a Yankee fan like you
I predict Joba throws 81 pitches tonight, all strikes.
I wonder when the yanks are gonna have bernie pull the countdown lever
I don’t get it. We’re having a discussion about adding a piece here and a piece there when we already have too many pieces that don’t add up over the long haul to the ultimate goal of winning another championship.
Hopefully behind the scenes the powers that be are exploring every opportunity to sell high in regards to Damon, Giambi, and Matsui. What team needs 4 DH’s (Posada today and maybe more than we are guessing right now in the future)?
The schedule for June has been very kind. When Jul and Aug roll around, watch out. I believe they will return to .500 ball. They’ll be facing quality pitching again and quality line-ups.
This is the same team that couldn’t do anything with it’s post season opportunities the last two seasons because it didn’t have enough pitching and it’s own line-up couldn’t do anything against front line pitching.
jerry coleman should do it today, although i dont know if he’s ever sold insurance.
“Hopefully JOba can get more then two strikeouts.I like how Girardi said it’s okay because you don’t want to have too much strikeouts because you might throw too many pitches.”
Simple mathematics. Getting as manay outs as possible in the fewest pitches possible is always the objective. I like that Joba pitched to contact in that last game. I also like that when he’s facing a runners on 2nd and 3rd with one out late in a one run ballgame situation, he’s got the stuff to get the strikeout when he needs it.
“Hopefully JOba can get more then two strikeouts”
Oh Yes, because if he doesn’t-Absolute FAILURE
Maybe pulling the lever today will be that homeless guy Pete was talking about yesterday?
I’m betting $100 on joba throwing a complete game perfect game 81 pitches 27 strikeouts plus he will pinch hit and hit a grandslam and a 3 run homerun leading hank to decide to change the Yankees into an nl team starting tomorrow and joba hits for every pitcher. He will end the year 35-2 with a 0.56 era 750 strikeouts 6 perfect games 10 no hitters 89 homeruns and 267 RBI
anyone notice that the Guiseppe Franco commercials seem to have stopped?
i would have suggested him to pull the lever…
the homeless guy by gate 2 that has a water jug with his homeless license on it asking everyone for money that enters the stadium?
No batting practice today? The cage is up but no one is taking bp
“the homeless guy by gate 2 that has a water jug with his homeless license on it asking everyone for money that enters the stadium?”
I was thinking of someone else, but he will do.
Fredo Corleone:
I know Cashman doesn’t want Gardner sitting on the bench and that’s why he hasn’t been called up yet. However, I don’t think it would hurt him very much to be called up at the end of August just as the AAA season is winding down. I don’t know the exact date that minor league ball ends, but I think that playoffs start in early September. If Gardner has to miss the last 5-10 games of the season and the AAA playoffs in order to serve as a pinch runner / late defensive replacement to help the Yankees make the playoffs, as well as a more diversified team in the playoffs, I think that is a price worth paying.
Let’s end the talk of brining in another OF via trade. We have Melky, Abreu and Damon healthy and that’s enough. Gardner would get the call to the big leagues if Matsui’s knee will continue to dog him all year and regulating him to the OF on a more normal basis. As much as the Yankees say they don’t need to stress the bench, I think they will need to bring Gardner up as that backup OF to bring more speed off the bench and provide a day off for Abreu and Damon if Matsui’s knee limits him to being only a DH.
Having to carry three catchers is obviously limiting the roster right now. If Posada can show he can throw with a good amount of shoulder strength, then Cashman get send down / release Moeller and bring up Gardner (need to keep Gonzalez and Betemit as the backup infielders).
Also, what about giving Robertson a shot for the big league bullpen?
Once again:
Does Brian Heyman ever get a day off?
Can anyone explain why Perez had to be added to the 40 Man?
I’m not familiar with the intricasies of waiver pick-ups…
Today’s pitcher was claimed off waivers from Toronto. He pitched 2 innings of relief against the Yankees last year (1 ER).
He’s been a gem for the Padres. Let’s hope he’s as nervous as the last Peavy and Wolfe were.
I asked this last night, wanted to know what you guys thought. Looks like the Tigers are getting back on track. Do you guys think the White Sox are the real deal this year, or do the Tigers catch them? And does the wild card come out of the Central or East?
I’m ready to here this stadium explode when joba takes the field
Wait until you hear it explode. Even more impressive.
“Do you guys think the White Sox are the real deal this year, or do the Tigers catch them? And does the wild card come out of the Central or East?”
Barring anymore serious injuries, I see no way that the Yankees, Red Sox and Angels miss the playoffs. I buy into the White Sox, especially with Beuhrle semmingly finding himself. Good pen, decent rotation, and enough offense to make it happen.
Hey, don’t the Yankees usually swing well when they don’t take BP?
The Yankees took batting practice last night.
“Do you guys think the White Sox are the real deal this year, or do the Tigers catch them? And does the wild card come out of the Central or East?â€
As long as Carmona and Martinez are hurt, I can’t see anyone challenging them–not unless the Tigers make a crazy run.
I honestly think joba is the next jeter.
Maybe I’m missing something but with Matsui hurting are the Yankees really going to play with only three outfielders? According to Baseball Reference Betamit has a grand total of 5+ innings in the outfield in his career and Gonzalez has never played there in the majors (1 minor league inning). Doesn’t that make two extra catchers seem a little reckless?
“I honestly think joba is the next jeter.”
If Joba gets the rings there might be an argument, but for now, Jeter is in a class by himself.
“Maybe I’m missing something but with Matsui hurting are the Yankees really going to play with only three outfielders?”
Been that way all year. Whenever Damon or Matsui DH, they only have 3 OF’s. When/if they abandon the three catchers plan, they will likely add that 4th OF.
Fredo,
Thnx.
Rebecca,
They don’t need to make a crazy run. I know it’s interleague, but the Tigers have been chipping away. They’re only 7 back of the White Sox in the loss column and 5 back of us. They were left for dead, but have a chance to rear its ugly head if they leave Dontrelle in the minors.
The Yankees only worry about themselves, but us fans have to keep a side eye on the others.
They have 4 outfielders…Matsui is temporarily out. I doubt they need a 5th outfielder unless somebody is out for a week or so.
No it’s different. If Matsui or Damon DH, then if one of the three outfielders gets hurt we just lose the DH, plus we had Duncan most of the time. Matsui had his knee drained last night, so he’s not available. If God forbid one of our outfielders has to leave the game today, we’re in deep doodoo.
Speaking of day games, what a break for the Red Sox (and the Phils). How’d they get at 1PM game yesterday? Both are off today and Boston goes home while Philly stays in Philly. Gives the Sox, who are banged up (No Ortiz, Ramirez or Youklis yesterday) better than 48 hours between games. Pretty freakin’ fortuitous. Yankees never catch that break.
mel: This is true. Likewise, I think the Yanks can chip away at Boston–we still have most of our games against them left to play!
“He’s been a gem for the Padres. Let’s hope he’s as nervous as the last Peavy and Wolfe were.”
I’m a bit worried. This is one of those junkballing righties that the Yankees seem to stink against. He doesn’t walk a lot of guys, his problem has been giving up lots of hits in the past. For some reason, they never seem to hit these guys and I just don’t understand it.
If somebody gets hurt I’d think Betemit goes and plays left field. That’s my guess.
BFF,
I mentioned the Tigers yesterday. They have been on a roll of late and their hitting has been clicking on all cylinders. I am worried about them because i dont think the white sox are going to fall off. Therefore its not just going to be catching the Rays or A’S. Its making sure that the tigers dont catch us. Come to think of it. Who cares? We’re going to win the division. Let the Sox worry about the Wild Card.
“If God forbid one of our outfielders has to leave the game today, we’re in deep doodoo.”
Well…it certainly won’t be GOOD, but deep doo-doo? You can get by for a few innings with an awful corner OFer. You might lose the game, but no one’s going to die. Besides…the alternative is what, exactly? Sending down a pitcher and losing him to the minors for 10 days so that we can have…a backup OFer? Losing Moeller to another organization before we’re sure that Jorge’s shoulder will hold up?
I need some advice from the New Yorkers on here…
I live in AZ and I’m making a pilgrimage to the Stadium in early July. I want to try to get some tickets for the Sox series, but I recently found out scalping is illegal in NY (it’s legal in AZ because it’s still the wild west over here). So what’s the best way to get tickets? And what’s the protocol for getting scalped tickets? Do I have meet a dude in a dark alley?
Thanks for the help.
Rebecca,
That’s right. Another factor is the weakness of the Central (one team with a winning record) and the strength of the East (one team with a losing record).
We’ve done poorly against the east so far. That’s going to have to change if we’re going to go anywhere.
Matteo,
Try stubhub.com
That or just go to the stadium. There are a lot of people just standing there selling tickets. Although for the Sox it’s gonna cost you. No dark alley needed, just a lot of cash.
scalping might be illegal…but who cares
” Joba Chamberlain (1-2, 2.48) has never faced any of the San Diego hitters.”….Gee, I wonder who will have the advantage there ?…Joba goes 8 innings of SHUT OUT BALL today, folks…..Ba-Bye PADRES !
matteo: Try stubhub.com.
I wouldn’t come to NY and count on scalped tickets. You’re probably best off getting them off MLB.com. Sites like StubHub charge a ridiculous $16 shipping.
“He’s been a gem for the Padres. Let’s hope he’s as nervous as the last Peavy and Wolfe were”
Don’t think it had anything to do with nerves. Who gets nervous in June baseball games? Wolf is awful outside of Petco and Peavy was in his 2nd start off the DL (and he made no rehab starts before coming off). I think that’s why the results were what they were.
Doubt this kid today will be nervous either, but I’d guess he gets hit pretty hard because he’s not very good.
“Speaking of day games, what a break for the Red Sox (and the Phils). How’d they get at 1PM game yesterday? Both are off today and Boston goes home while Philly stays in Philly. Gives the Sox, who are banged up (No Ortiz, Ramirez or Youklis yesterday) better than 48 hours between games. Pretty freakin’ fortuitous. Yankees never catch that break.”
ESPN wouldnt happened to have made the 2008 mlb schedule up?Im now 100% sure its a freekin conspiracy. Next you will see boston being able to serve their suspensions in the off season.
if you buy it enough in advance it doesnt cost 16 dollars shipping!
Here is the Fred Wilpon chicken story:
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo....._fi-2.html
Matteo–
Unreal but scalping is now legal in NY but there are certain “rules” in terms of how far from the stadium you can do it etc
All of the Padres starters have higher road ERAs because their park is so ridiculously pitcher friendly.
Tigers are fattening up a little on the NL (who in the AL isn’t???). That’s why they’re making a bit of a run. Just can’t take them seriously with that pitching. They MIGHT be able to catch the White Sox, but they aren’t close to the class of the Yankees or Boston….or Tampa. That division isn’t producing 2 90 win teams. The AL East will.
If we lost our outfielder to injury today. It wouldnt even faze us. We have the wild card waiting on the wings. Yes. You might of heard of him before. He goes by the name of MO.
What’s gonna cost more: stubhub or a scalper?
“Doubt this kid today will be nervous either, but I’d guess he gets hit pretty hard because he’s not very good.”
Those are the guys that we usually struggle with. The ones that arent very good.
I think if anyone catches the White Sox it will be the Indians. They have a lot of key injuries but if they can pull together and stay afloat I think they can make a big run in August/September.
matteo: Toss up, depends on the seats and the scalper.
“Speaking of day games, what a break for the Red Sox (and the Phils). How’d they get at 1PM game yesterday? Both are off today and Boston goes home while Philly stays in Philly. Gives the Sox, who are banged up (No Ortiz, Ramirez or Youklis yesterday) better than 48 hours between games. Pretty freakin’ fortuitous. Yankees never catch that break.”
i was under the impression that start time is the home teams decision. the yankees could do the same thing before off days at home but its not a good way to maximize profits from concessions.
What’s gonna cost more: stubhub or a scalper?
scalper. eccept if you could bargin good!
“ESPN wouldnt happened to have made the 2008 mlb schedule up?Im now 100% sure its a freekin conspiracy. Next you will see boston being able to serve their suspensions in the off season.”
Pretty odd scheduling in that it had nothing to do with TV (College WS and Euros on the ESPNs). Did the Phils just want a businessman’s special??? Very unsual…and rather timely for Boston.
or jeter could play outfield. he will probbaly end his carier there( if he plans to play till age 45)
If you really want to go to the game don’t count on a scalper. With stubhub you’ll at least have guaranteed seats and some choice over where they are.
“If God forbid one of our outfielders has to leave the game today, we’re in deep doodoo.â€
“Well…it certainly won’t be GOOD, but deep doo-doo? You can get by for a few innings with an awful corner OFer. You might lose the game, but no one’s going to die. Besides…the alternative is what, exactly? Sending down a pitcher and losing him to the minors for 10 days so that we can have…a backup OFer? Losing Moeller to another organization before we’re sure that Jorge’s shoulder will hold up?”
I hate this notion that the Yanks are going to make the playoffs no matter what, so we can afford to lose games. We don’t need all these relief pitchers, Billy Traber should be down and Brett Gardner should be up, at least until Matsui is 100%. Plus, as much as I like him, the Yanks don’t need Moeller.
oh boy Fatcessa only, and then Fruity Pebbles for the rest of the week
“i was under the impression that start time is the home teams decision. the yankees could do the same thing before off days at home but its not a good way to maximize profits from concessions.”
Probably. I’m not blaming Boston for the start time. I know they had nothing to do with it. Just commenting on how well it worked out for them.
Fatcessa alone? Oh boy..
He’s gonna be watching the game and not paying attention..lol
Basketball real quick. I heard yesterday that Micheal Beasley was listed at 6-10 in college. He now is 6-7? Either they sized him with his high tops or he has taking 1 too many showers. Seriously. How could that happen?
* off topic but interesting -
BLEICH IS BACK
It really shouldn’t come as a surprise, but Coach Marquess announced after the game that he would start junior left-handed pitcher Jeremy Bleich against Georgia on Friday. In his last start against Florida State, the veteran allowed a run on six hits in five innings. He also struck out seven and walked two. Overall, Bleich is now 3-2 with a 1.02 ERA in 44 innings. Opposing teams are hitting .203 off him.
worn me when he saids Arroyo, the shot glass is to the left.
Pure. Filth.
Did he just admit Joba in the rotation…..might have been a good idea by the Yankees?
Someone get my smelling salts…
Bronson Arroyo! Take a shot!
wow, this is a way to start.
Bleich pitches tomorrow on ESPN
Clearly Joba is the ebst pitcher on the planet as he struck out the first two batters he has faced!!!
SHOT #1
Easy inning. Me like.
Hope the Yankee bats can do some damage early and take San Diego right out of the game.
So is fatso going to be watching the Yankee game, and talking in between ab’s on his show?
Bronson Arroyo-shot # 2
1, 2, 3. w00t!
Now he is back to being just average as he let up a ground out to third.
“Basketball real quick. I heard yesterday that Micheal Beasley was listed at 6-10 in college. He now is 6-7?”
Shrinkage???
He never looked 6-10 on TV. Scouting report on ESPN has him at 6-8, which seems about right.
quick 1-2-3…joba looks great. commanding the fastball well and throwing it at 96. 13 pitches perfecto
It’s only 1:12 and Mike is talking about Bronson Arryro.
Jesus Christ.
Slurping over Arroyo right now..lol
Now did he mention Bronson’s poor start?
do you really think that boy was waiting for kay to say the lineup?
Nice..Joba looks good so far
All season long Sterling and Waldman went on and on and on about how they would never move Joba out of the pen and how it would be a big mistake to do so.
Now they are both saying how it was such a great move by Cashman to move Joba into the rotation. Otherwise they would be looking for another. Waldman actually quoted Dave Eiland when he said Joba has been a starter his whole life. That’s what he should be doing. And she said it in this way that made it sound like, of course Joba should be starting. Hasn’t it always been obvious to everyone?
It’s just remarkable. All season long people in the media went on and on and on about how he couldn’t be moved from the all important 8th inning role… yaddaa yadda yadda shorten the game yadda yadda Stanton Nelson…
And now its as if none of that every happened. Its like they live in a world of complete amnesia.
Who do you think trees hate more? Johnny Damon or Mariano Rivera?
Now did he mention Bronson’s poor start?
he didn’t even know he pitched yesterday, talk about keeping tabs on someone
2 K’s in the first inning… MoBoy gets results!
It’s too bad the day/night doubleheader against the Mets isn’t in another month or so; once Joba’s pitch count gets up over 200, he could pitch both games.
Johnny Damon is amazing.
my life is complete
I got onto Keith Laws chat.
Brendon (Guilderland NY): You aren’t a melky fan, you aren’t a gardner fan…are you an Austin Jackson fan?
Keith Law: (1:14 PM ET ) Yes. Ultimately, these guys are all keeping the spot warm for him.
C’mon Jetes, lets see home run #200
bphil: Congratulations!
I like this anecdote of Jeter being captain-y.
McLaren just got the gas in Seattle.
Bye bye McLaren –
Rebecca,
Wang’s BBBBAP is pretty high, too. But I’ll say Mariano.
bphill,
Nice…
Banks is slower than Trachsel out there.
First time I heard Jetes step up and help Robi
Damn…is Waldman’s voice not the most annoying sound in this universe?
She talks so damn loud into the mike it’s ridiculous too.
Anyone watching on TV please update as I’m in Fla…does she have “compromising” photos of George?
I thought San Diego’s defense was supposed to be good? Not that I’m complaining…
“Brendon (Guilderland NY): You aren’t a melky fan, you aren’t a gardner fan…are you an Austin Jackson fan?
Keith Law: (1:14 PM ET ) Yes. Ultimately, these guys are all keeping the spot warm for him.”
Of course, he 1st referred to Melky and Gardner as 4th OF’s.
Abreu, your OPS is under .800. Fix that.
So does this mean Seattle is going to blow up the team?
Cash, trade for Erik Bedard please.
he sure did fredo…
T’aint pritty, but I’ll take it.
Joba threw 13 pitches that inning. 11 fastballs (all 4 seamers I believe) and only 2 sliders.
For his age he really knows how to pitch and learns very quickly. In the pen he kind of fell in love with his slider. That won’t work as a starter – hitters get used to it and start laying off. That’s what happened to him this year with the slider. He’ll use it more selectively as a starter.
He sits 95-98. That fastball is going to build his career. And he’s getting back to using that as his foundation.
Very productive out, Bobby.
Make ‘em pay, Alex.
that was picture perfect baserunning
“Cash, trade for Erik Bedard please.”
for waht they’d ask for, people on this site would kill themselves if that happened.
“First time I heard Jetes step up and help Robi”
When Robi had that 4 for 4 game against Toronto he said everyday Jeter is behind him in the batting cage telling him to try to hit line drives.
I don’t know why people think that Jeter doesn’t help out his teammates simply cause he’s quiet.
Nice contact by Bobby even though he’s been down a little bit lately – he had a ribbie last night right?
Ack, Alex, you were not supposed to do that!
thanks for the help guys, see you in july!
C’mon Alex, you’ve got to do better than that!
if he could recognize the offspeed he would hit .390 instead he’s stuck w/ the fastball
“for waht they’d ask for, people on this site would kill themselves if that happened.”
Maybe you are right but it seems like Seattle is getting ready for a major rebuild. Its possible that Cashman could make a decent trade for Bedard.
is that a scout behind home plate?
hes got a radar gun and keeps taking notes after each pitch…he is on the right side of the screen.
Joba looked filthy. Gotta score these runs.
Brandon,
We only hear a fraction of what goes on in the clubhouse. Jeter doesn’t prepare a press release everytime he does good.
I have a feeling this is a guy who will hold us scoreless for 3 or 4, and then fall apart in the 5th as the Yankees get more looks.
bphil: Scouts usually sit right behind home plate.
good catch bphil…i see that too now. very interesting
Ofcourse Arod has hit a lot recently so no one will say anything about that at bat. But yet another at bat where he cant get the runner in from 3rd. With the infield back. They just needed contact. Terrible…
“I don’t know why people think that Jeter doesn’t help out his teammates simply cause he’s quiet.”
Telling him to hit line drives is pretty sage advice. Surprised nobody but Jeter came up with it.
bphill,
Of course he’s there to scout the 20 pitches that Banks brings to the mound.
Well, that was disappointing.
Hopefully we’ll get to them next inning.
Wow. Some nice off-speed pitches there.
Hi, I’m trying to get the game from my laptop on streaming radio. Anybody know how I can do that and what website I should go to? Thanks.
I don’t know why people think that Jeter doesn’t help out his teammates simply cause he’s quiet.
Was this a serious question ? Last season it Alex and Bobby who stepped in for Robi and Melky that’s been said for some time today is the first time I have heard Jetes talk about what to do w/ a pitch w/ Robi, before today it was hit line drives as an advice.
Alex with the K…DANG !…Good News is that we are playing the Padres and there will plenty of chances today…
UGH….no power in the Stache that time…..
So if I take a clipboard and a radar gun, I can score good seats behind the plate?
goyanks: Try MLB.com gameday audio.
waaaaaaah.
they didn’t bring the runners home.
“bphil: Scouts usually sit right behind home plate.”
I knew that white tube top girl was a scout. She just had that look, “like hey look at me. Im important.”
“Telling him to hit line drives is pretty sage advice. Surprised nobody but Jeter came up with it.”
I’m sure he said more to him than just hit line drives. But I’ll just leave it at that.
You probably wanted to him him say tell Cano exactly how to swing and exactly where to try to place the ball I guess.
“Ofcourse Arod has hit a lot recently so no one will say anything about that at bat. But yet another at bat where he cant get the runner in from 3rd. With the infield back. They just needed contact. Terrible…”
Stop whining. I swear.
They’ve won 6 in a row. Listening to whiners like you, you’d think they’d lost 6 in a row.
Maybe I’m losing my mind, but didn’t Seattle just sign Bedard? Not that recently-signed players can’t be moved but… it just seems unlikely. Are we going to start hearing Johan Santana rumors if the Mets keep tanking? I don’t think so.
ray lets squash it, it won’t take us nowhere. Dammit!
Ack, let’s go Joba…
Not so sure I woudn’t want Adrian Gonzalez before Teixera. Nice bat. Excellent glove.
“Cash, trade for Erik Bedard please.”
Yes. I’d love to give up talent for a guy who won’t throw 200 IP at any point in his career due to a chronic hip problem.
HaHa. Kay said “past a diving Giambi”.
crap.
hey pete (or anyone else for that matter) if you by any chance come across this comment, any idea of A-Rod’s stats with runners on 3rd and less then 2 out? I have a ton of respect for ARod but agree with captainscorner that in my mind he seems to fail in that situation a lot. maybe its just that the only times I remember are the ones he fails at though…
“Are we going to start hearing Johan Santana rumors if the Mets keep tanking?”
Nick,
Haven’t you been here long enough to know that if the Mets fall out of it there will be 1000 posts a day begging Cashman to trade for Santana no matter what it takes?
come on Joba!
“Maybe you are right but it seems like Seattle is getting ready for a major rebuild. Its possible that Cashman could make a decent trade for Bedard.”
you’re still going to have to give up major talent, and the M’s are going to want to recollect pieces similar to what they gave to get him.
think about a top pitcher of choice, austin jackson, plus two other pieces.
never happen.
to my dismay, Cashman isnt into the big splash game anymore.
Joba, pitching lesson: loading the bases with no one out is not generally considered a good idea.
Uh oh.
Seattle did not just sign Bedard… I’m pretty sure he is arbitration eligible after 2008 season and then a free agent after the 2009 season.
Uh oh – Job – ah – in trub – ull
ohhhh boy. joba settle down please
“Not so sure I woudn’t want Adrian Gonzalez before Teixera. Nice bat. Excellent glove.”
And I’d like Jay Bruce over Mike Cameron.
“I’m sure he said more to him than just hit line drives. But I’ll just leave it at that.
You probably wanted to him him say tell Cano exactly how to swing and exactly where to try to place the ball I guess.”
My point is hitting coaches and hitting advice have all the significance of being the Prime Minisiter of Canada. Not Long’s fault or Jeter’s fault Cano isn’t hitting and it won’t be because of them when he is.
the guy from no m a a s got onto the klaw chat
Lane Meyer (N o M a a s, NY): Keith, what can you tell us about potential 2009 Draft Eligible FRESHMAN (never seen that before), Yankee draft pick, and teammate of Anthony Hewitt’s, Chris Dwyer? Does the lefty have top of the rotation potential? Thanks.
Keith Law: (1:31 PM ET ) Back of the rotation potential. Solid-average fastball, chance for an above-average breaking ball. Would like to know how the heck he’s 20 in high school, though. I believe the Royals took a DE freshman out of BYU who had taken two years for his Mormon mission, 2002 draft, named Jensen.
Okay, Joba, get the K here. Hairston chases sliders.
So was the Tony Clark walk not an IBB?
i think that is the guy from no m a a s that hates peter.
This is not good
Was that walk to Tony Clark intentional?
from mlbtraderumors.com
“I’m not going to list off Bavasi’s mistakes here; we all know he did a poor job. Looking forward, you have to wonder if Pelekoudas will be more willing to trade Erik Bedard than Bavasi would’ve been. He could also move quickly to release Richie Sexson. Geoff Baker believes a housecleaning is much more likely now.”
They were also predicted in another article to release Sexson shortly. Apparently there are also problems with Ichiro and johjima (sp?)
“Yes. I’d love to give up talent for a guy who won’t throw 200 IP at any point in his career due to a chronic hip problem.”
Are you joking? If Cashman could get Bedard at a good price you wouldn’t want him? That is ridiculous..
well, he should be at 105 pitches by the 4th inning.
I’m just looking at the “scout” behind home plate…he is waering that Yankees hat they are giving away today…fishy fishy.
Okay, DP here.
16 pitches in the 2nd for Joba – 14 fastballs, 2 sliders. We need to see more sliders!
you can not bulldoze joba.
OUT AT HOME
Nice defense Joba!
Apparently there are also problems with Ichiro and johjima (sp?)
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According to Rosenthal, Ichiro is percieved as selfish and some of the pitchers don’t like to throw to Jojima and some people are envious of his contract as well…
Hope Joba can get that lucky more often.
Adrian, you can hit, but you can’t run.
“And I’d like Jay Bruce over Mike Cameron.”
Not quite a fair analogy, but I take your point. Gonzalez is 27 next year, so he’s not a total youngster, but the Pads have a sweet deal with him thru 2010.
So Seattle acquired Bedard in a trade? Then forget what I said.
But I still don’t want him.
DAMN !
A MAGICIAN!
Wow – got out of bases loaded nobody out lol
IN A GOOD WAY !
AND THAT’S JOBA! Bases loaded no outs and strike out, out at home, strike out. FIST PUMP! love it
WHEW!!
OK — can you imagine being a Padres fan right now. Bases loaded, no outs and they score no runs? Ouch
Joba is teh NASTY!
Joba!
WOOHOO JOBA!!! Way to get out of it!!
Waldman said he looked like a fullback blocking the plate lol
Now that I like to see
FIST PUMP!!
Wow,
Wow,
Happy now!
CHAMBERLAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
that fist pump was the joba i missed
HUGE!!
That play at home. Did you ever see 3 burlier guys involved in one like that? Good thing Joba’s built like a linebacker.
WOW! I think Joba’s just an adrenaline junkie – that’s why he loaded the bases with no outs.
Damn I love baseball.
If you’re a Padre fan, this is when you cry.
If that had happened in the 8th inning, then it would have mattered.
As we mentioned earlier, there are times when you NEED the strikeout. Hairston’s AB was one of those. Not much kinder to a pitcher than the lower third of an NL lineup, but that was a great job.
Get to work bats
Yaaa Joba. Way to get out of a big jam.
Phew. Gameday is not nearly as good as watching on tv, but i just threw my arms in the air. this blog is great but it might get me fired one day
We’ve seen that kind of thing from Joba before. When he gets in trouble he has the ability to reach back to another cylinder.
He’s got special stuff. He really does.
That’s why he’s a starter. His stuff can get out of jams.
I wanna see Beckett v. joba
That would be a heck of a game
Joba blocked the plate great. Joba should be the emergency catcher
Yankees, now would be a good time to score some runs…
Joba needs runs of course the offense decides to take off today.
I noticed that the fist pump didnt have the normal shout with it. Let Joba be Joba!
Do the Padres still have 2 Giles? That’d be something if 4/25 of your team were somewhat related.
Mel, Marcus is playing in Colorado.
“Do the Padres still have 2 Giles? That’d be something if 4/25 of your team were somewhat related.”
no Marcus was let go, and played with the Rockies for a breif stint this year. i think they released him, too, or at least demoted him to AAA.
Mel- Marcus Giles is elsewhere now.
Joba blocked the plate great. Joba should be the emergency catcher
seriously Molina should have caught that ball nearly put Joba’s health in jeopardy.
quick inning from joba please…that would be awesome
Joba’s not getting a whole bunch of run support, is he?
what’s the scouting report on banks? He seems to be a groundball pitcher.
Ichiro wouldnt be a bad option patrolling centerfield. What would it take to get him? Would they take Melky in a package deal?
its the end of the 2nd inning….
little early to say that?
“Ichiro wouldnt be a bad option patrolling centerfield. What would it take to get him? Would they take Melky in a package deal?”
id prefer to make a move after the season is over, and let him sit in RF to take over for Abreu.
sunny… he has 8 pitches as far as im concerned he can be whatever kind of pitcher he wants to be…
and to get ichiro… not going to happen
Boy this guy is exciting.
“Ichiro wouldnt be a bad option patrolling centerfield. What would it take to get him? Would they take Melky in a package deal?”
Doubt it. Most of their inept guys have been fired.
From Keith Law chat:
Chris (Staten Island, NY): Keith, Should the Yankees give Brett Gardner a chance in CF? Melky has a putrid .688 OPS ranked 16th among MLB centerfielders and is playing an average defensive centerfield. Gardner has a .835 OPS at AAA and is a definite upgrade defensively and on the bases with his speed. Melky could then be packaged with a young pitcher to maybe aquire a decent lefty for the pen.
Keith Law: (1:11 PM ET ) Where are all of the people who were telling me last year – and this winter – that Melky was a star, and not a very good fourth outfielder? I’m not a Gardner fan – he’s just a fourth/fifth outfielder too. The Yankees shouldn’t be settling for that in centerfield in a year where they’re contending.
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Brendon (Guilderland NY): You aren’t a melky fan, you aren’t a gardner fan…are you an Austin Jackson fan?
Keith Law: (1:14 PM ET ) Yes. Ultimately, these guys are all keeping the spot warm for him.
I’m sure I’m not the only one that feels a little smug when Joba is does his thing. I think of Mark Teahan of the Royals and his off the cuff comment. The other one, too. David Delucci.
In recent times, I’ve never heard the Yankees talk bad about another player or talk trash like that.
Pete
I can understand how its important to what you do that Girardi be straight up with info, but I’m not so bothered by Girardi holding some injury info close to the vest.
I would think that if an opposing manager doesn’t know the availability of a guy 2-3 days in advance, it makes it a little more challenging for him to match up. We always see the Yanks promote or demote guys, align rest days for the lineup or the rotation, or use (abuse?) the bullpen with consideration for possible match ups that far ahead. All the opponents do that too.
Depending on each case it might be OK to go ‘full disclosure’ or tight to the vest. Sometimes its hard to tell right away. If I was a manager I wouldn’t want whether I was being open or not to allude to potentially anything important that could strategically help the other team even a day too early.
So even if a particular injury may not be serious at all, I think its better to have a policy across the board that makes it hard to read in all cases.
Of course if they already know we’ll find out a day or two later anyways. But if the the opposing manager could potentially gain an advantage by knowing this in some cases, even if there’s no advantage in other cases case, I would limit going public with at least some info in all cases.
Personally (as a fan and a reader) I can wait a day or two for the full blown version of the info. I’d also rather not see that cost the team/manager in terms of bad PR. I respect you Pete but I’d lean towards giving him the benefit of the doubt if Girardi doesn’t show all his cards even when it seems harmless to do so. I’d rather the other team not know exactly how many days off Mo or Matsui or whoever may need or why.
Here’s a prime example: If Terry Francona knows a week in advance that Posada resting his shoulder for 2 days against Kansas City (for example) rather than “letting a blister on his foot heal” or “just getting an extra day off”, everyone on the Sox will run on him when they come to town a week later and that could potentially aggravate his shoulder enough to effect the season. If being a little evasive (even if just for one day) about Matsui or Wang’s condition allows such a non-disclosure to be more effective on another day, I’m all for it.
Oh, Kay let it go…
Ichiro is the face of the franchise for the Mariners. You’d be talking Joba, Melky and Jackson just for the privilege of discussing it.
just out of curiosity.. why aren”t we seeing any change-ups?… 5k’s already!
“Oh, Kay let it go…”
what’s he harping on?
That’s the Joba I remember from A ball and AA low pitch count gets out of innings.
Also, Joba could not have asked for a better inning. Well, i guess it could have been a three pitch inning, but that’s not the point.
I think Joba has only used fastball and slider so far today. No sight of his change/curve yet.
GREAT GAME SO FAR BY JOBA. 45 through 3.
10 pitch inning…beautiful. Where are ya, pete? we need more updates
Ron, Turn, and Al,
Thanks.
just out of curiosity.. why arenâ€t we seeing any change-ups?
No need to use it, yet.
Beyond the attitude and hip problems (which are significant), here is the #1 problem in trying to get Bedard. Matching up with Seattle.
In order for Seattle to move him, they have to get back a similar package to what they gave up to get him in the first place. If they don’t, they would have made two mistakes with him. Getting him AND giving him away. They can’t afford to do that.
He is signed through next year so, they don’t have to trade him. One could argue that if they hold onto him, they have a better chance of getting a better package for him in the off-season.
They gave up Adam Jones, an excellent CF prospect, George Sherrill, now the Orioles closer, a 20 year pitcher is was one of their 3 best starting pitching prospects, and another player to get Bedard. That’s a lot of talent.
For the Yankees to match up, they would have to give up AJax, Melancon and Hughes. That ain’t happenin’.
The best thing for the Yankees to do right now is sit tight. Try to get to the AS Break between 2-4 games out of a playoff spot. At that point, they will have a better idea of the trade marketplace and their own needs.
In the meantime, we have to hope they hit like crazy and find some luck with Giese and/or Ponson for a few starts.
The longer they are able to buy some time, the better chance they have to make a deal that makes sense.
TurnTwo,
How Joba got killed for the fist pump, but no one said anything about Tiger’s (triple) fist pump this weekend.
Flash was like whatever, and was middle of the road about it.
They both have good points.
Ichiro is not a very good offensive player. He has little power, he doesn’t walk, and his batting average is his life. As he gets older, the level of performance separating him from below-average gets thinner and thinner. He’s not worth anything.
From Keith Law on Josh Banks:
Scott (San Diego, CA): What are you thoughts on the Padres’s Josh Banks? Only 2 unintentional walks, 26 hits, 19Ks, 4ER in 30in (counting 2 today) .
Keith Law: (1:52 PM ET ) Always been a big Banks fan, but he became obscenely homer-prone in AAA – his fastball is hard but true, and he barely used his CB when he was with Toronto, so as a two-pitch guy (he has a good splitter) he wasn’t cut out for starting. Control was always great; I think he had about a 60-inning no-walk streak in AA in 2004 or 2005. The move to SD was about the best thing that could have happened to him – huge ballpark will help him – but unless that CB has come along, he’s probably just a back-end starter.
“just out of curiosity.. why arenâ€t we seeing any change-ups?… 5k’s already!”
He’s only gone through the order once. He should never use all that many different pitches early on because his fastball is just so dominant. That should always be his foundation.
That inning he threw his first curve ball. He’ll mix in a few more curve balls next time through the order. Probably some two seam fastballs as well.
Quite honestly – depending on how his stuff is any given day he just may not need to throw the change up.
also with bedard, a lot of people question if he really likes the game of baseball. Many say he doesn’t enjoy it so he doesn’t pitch to his potential. Who wants a guy with that attitude?
“just out of curiosity.. why arenâ€t we seeing any change-ups?… 5k’s already!”
Because he’s still gotta turn the lineup over a couple more times. You want to keep some of your weapons for later. He’s got the curve and the change (also, the change isn’t that consistent a pitch yet) to use when he sees these guys again in the coming innings.
This Banks is pissing me off.
thanks, mel. thats one of my biggest issues with listening to Kay, is that he never has anything new to say… seems to just lean on the same things over and over and over again.
of course, amongst other gripes, but ill stop there.
why are we so worried about giese’s starts? from what I have seen so far, yes he hasn’t really had to face a power driven line-up, but he can pitch pretty well in the majors…
…This is going to be a 1-0 game, isn’t it?
“Ichiro is the face of the franchise for the Mariners. You’d be talking Joba, Melky and Jackson just for the privilege of discussing it.”
Not to pick on Rebecca – heck I do this too – but I think it is ridiculous more often than not when we try to piece together packages with all the complexity involved.
Look at the A-Rod/Soriano deal – who would have imagined that that was a possibility until it actually happened. Seattle might want to get out from under Ichiro’s gigantic deal and do a total overhaul of the squad. You just don’t know until the deals get done (or not) what motivates teams in mega moves.
TK: I was just remarking on how impossible it’d be to even talk about Ichiro in a deal.
I mean, I guess you could do it, but aside from the fact that the Yankees have no need for him, the price would be ridiculous.
The problem is that Volquez was getting lit up by the AL. And after losing Texeira, the Rangers needed offense.
And the Yankees don’t seem to want to score today…which I guess is okay if San Diego doesn’t want to score either.
I think we’ll see a break through on Bank next inning. This can’t last forever… (i hope)
The sooner we knock this kid out of the game, the better. Nice AB by Molina to up the count.
“How Joba got killed for the fist pump, but no one said anything about Tiger’s (triple) fist pump this weekend.”
In baseball you are playing against people, in golf you are playing the course.
The 18th hole refused to comment after Tiger’s gestures.
“I mean, I guess you could do it, but aside from the fact that the Yankees have no need for him, the price would be ridiculous.”
until next year, Rebecca. seems to me there’s a empty spot in RF he’d fit nicely into…. just sayin, not that ive thought about it or anything
i agree with TK, though. if the Rosenthal report is true, perhaps they take back a lot of lower level/high ceiling guys just to let Ichiro move on and clean up the clubhouse a little bit.
you just never know.
We already have Damon. We don’t really need Ichiro.
it has to be hard to try to predict what he is going to throw though…
he does have 8 pitches and im not saying he is going to throw all of them at any time but he seems like a decent pitcher with a lot of movement on his fastball
From my earlier post
“Doubt this kid today will be nervous either, but I’d guess he gets hit pretty hard because he’s not very good.â€
Those are the guys that we usually struggle with. The ones that arent very good.”
Man i hope im wrong today. This is frustrating watching Joba dominate and not giving him any runs to work with.
here we go again.
could Jason have gotten to that ?
TK,
There is a 0% chance Seattle trades Ichiro. He is the face of their franchise, has a full no trade clause, and sells more season tickets than almost any single player in the game.
He also has floor seat season tickets for the Lakers. If he was every to approve any trade, it would be to stay on the West Coast.
He’s not coming east for anybody.
Joba, this thing called the strike zone, please find it?
TKinDC -
Except he was playing against Rocco, ya know? Who was standing not too far away.
Texas is doing surprisingly well for a perennial cellar-dweller.
was it hit softly within three feet of him?
All three homeplate umpires have been giving pitchers that outside corner consistently.
Strikes Joba dear
What’s going on with Joba – losing the strike zone? Nit picking?
“He’s not coming east for anybody.”
didnt he say himself he almost signed with the Yankees the last FA before he re-upped with Seattle?
Can Giambi take diving drills in practice? He looks like he plays first with steel body armour on. I love his offense but thats about it.
Joba, the idea of the game is to get strike outs, not walks. Thanks.
bare down Joba.
SJ –
I agree about Ichiro getting moved – the fact that he is Japanese makes him a very good fit for that market too.
He would also have to agree to a move right? I would guess no matter who is the permanent GM there, they are going to do their very best to make Ichiro happy. He is a one-of-a-kind talent.
why is he still throwing 90% fastballs?
Boy this ump stinks….pitches in exactly the same place are either balls or strikes,,,depending on what ?…How about having a consistent strike zone, Magoo ???
“bare down Joba.”
Hey, he gets enough grief for the fist pump, I don’t think he’s going to be doing any baring down!
“He also has floor seat season tickets for the Lakers.”
I wonder if he would take Knicks season tickets next to Dantoni?
With Cincy in town for the weekend, ir could be a chance for Brian Cashman to have a face to face meeting with Walt Jocketty the Cincy GM and discuss deal possibilities.
Cashman must have a good idea of who he could part with in the system which could include Betemit, Steven White, and Chris Britton among others.
erg.
Tony Clark’s photo on yahoo sports makes him look older than Morgan Freeman.
Cheap hit Goddamit!!!
that is some BS Tony Clark gets a ground rule double
1-0, dare we say game over?
that’s twice the Padres have gotten bloop ground rule doubles off of Joba making a really good pitch. That is OK…just limit the Damage here….YOU CAN DO IT, KID !
someone please explain to me why we pitch Tony C on the outside when he should be jammed with fastballs
to make matters worse, cheap hit by a senior citizen! ugh
1-0, dare we say game over?
With the Jeckyll and Hyde offense who knows
Tony Clark – professional hitter……….’cept for that at bat against Foulke in 2004. Rat bastid.
Does the fact that your first ML homerun came Farnsworth make it any less of an accomplishment?
Bummer
Definitley not game over yet, but the yankees have got to get swinging (and, uh, hitting).
And Joba, strikes are your friend.
way to stay positive Russ
Abreu, Rodriquez, and the Giambino due up in the bottom half
Nice Play !
Mark Melancon (Trenton, NJ): When will I replace Kyle Farnsworth(less) and what’s my ceiling in The Show? Valuable cog in the ‘pen or just another middling reliever?
Keith Law: (2:01 PM ET ) Valuable cog. And this year.
Fatcessa is defending his BF Arroyo, a caller is debating w/ him big time right now.
wow, Gonzalez not showing the best baserunning instincts today…
Ump is on the Gammons payroll.
BATS DO YOUR THING!
Sunny: Thanks for that!
All right, Yanks, time for the bats to do some damage.
Okay, nice job working out of a jam.
Joba will learn to throw that fastball away to lefties. It might take a little time.
…down by a whole run to the Padres and you are saying poss game over ? take that negative junk outta here….what a whiner !
nice play by a-rod ! he will hit one out, promise!
That walk scored that run.
What is wrong with SD? Their base running is terrible. At least get in a rundown so the runners can move up
You da man Joba! GJ limiting the damage.
jesus the caller said Arroyo is a older version of what we have in the minors and he is a bum…He still going on about this.
Did you guys see Gonzalez in the duggout telling someone what Joba does with his glove before throwing a pitch? Could he be tipping his pitches?
where is this keith law chat? link pls?
I think after scoring like 50 runs this week I say they gotta get one.
Great ball game.
The Yankees bats will soon be awake.
72 pitches for 12 outs. Sort of the antithesis of the Stros game, but pretty effective nonetheless. Looks like he can get safely thru six with 100-105 pitches.
Oh no-don’t mess with Fatcessa regarding his true love Arroyo
Its the Bronson Arroyo hour on the FAN
BTW that’s 5 shots SA
71 pitches through 4. hope he gets through 6
This game is an example of Joba learning how to harness his stuff and pitch economically.
Once he learns how, he becomes the complete starter everybody expects he can be.
giambi has zero range..the hit in the 2nd inning the guy moved 1/2 a foot..
Looks like Joba will get through 6 innings max, hopefully he can buckle down and put up 2 more zeroes. Now its the offense’s turn, from what I’ve seen this guy has a high 80’s fastball and a changeup. He shouldn’t be that hard to score on.
My bad he also has a curve but I haven’t seen too many of those.
Mike’s logic on Arroyo:
1) 15 wins in 2004, 3 against us
2) K/IP
3) bad ballpark
“jesus the caller said Arroyo is a older version of what we have in the minors and he is a bum…He still going on about this.”
if i were in my car listening, and not reading the blog, i’d swear it was you calling in Brandon
Shyt! Even if they are up a run in the ninth Trevor Hoffman is a choke artist, Im confident.
arod tie it!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is Mike sleeping with Bronson Arroyo?
Yeah, Bobby is slumping a bit.
Jeez, Bobby getting unlucky today
5 shots already? My liver is gonna cry soon if this keeps up..
Ok, so I live on the west coast and don’t listen to NY radio. What’s up with the Broson Arroyo junk? The guy couldn’t hack it in the AL East and is barely trading water in the NL? Why on earth would the Yankees look at him? Is there actual logic behind this or is it just controversy for the sake of controversy hot air?
Guess Pete is recovering from his multiple update performance last night – he must have emptied out the tank!
stop swinging at the garbage offspeed ! dammit we need Alex to learn to hit the offspeed at the right time.
DAMN SKIPPY
Can we go find Scott Brosius and activate him real quick just in case Hoffman does come in with the lead in the 9th?
Nice to see Joba get a win today, offense needs to get rolling.
kippy damn ya beetches t ritttterrr
Hitting offspeed isn’t easy. You ever fought Soda Popinski in Punch Out for the NES? Gets you every time.
This guy is pitching backwards to the Yanks I can’t believe they aren’t making him pay.
Thinking about what if with Brien Taylor is never very happy but this stings:
The Big Sincerbowski (Arlington, VA): KLaw, did you scout Mike Kelly or Brien Taylor back in the day? If so, was there any indication that they could be colossal busts?
SportsNation Keith Law: (2:17 PM ET ) I did not, but Taylor wasn’t a bust – he blew out his shoulder in a bar fight. Stuff- and delivery-wise, he was one of the best pitching prospects of the last 25 years.
my NAME IS FLOOP.HAVE SOME Canolis
Ichiro was never a FA. He signed his extension with the Mariners during last season.
He looked at the Yankees when he first came over prior to signing with Seattle.
Here’s my thing about trade proposals. I think folks need to be realistic about who the Yankees can actually acquire.
Anybody can write a rumor column on a website. When you see them, take a step back and think logically for a moment.
Sure, Seattle could offer up Bedard. However, what’s the incentive for them to take less than they gave up when they got him? None.
Ken Rosenthal will write 100 rumor columns between now and the deadline. Most of them are non-sourced, pie in the sky ideas from his own brain.
The game is awash with cash. There isn’t a single team in baseball that needs to trade anybody because of money. There won’t be cash dumps at the deadline.
Teams also aren’t in the business of trading their best players for the dregs in the Yankees, or anybody else’s, farm system.
Players like Peavy, Ichiro, etc, are not getting traded regardless of how badly their teams play. They are guys that are drawing cards for their respective franchises and have also signed new deals.
If you look at the Yankees right now, 5 guys are untouchable in their system: Hughes, Montero, AJax, Brackman, and Melancon.
After that, depending on the player available, the offer, and the players you have to give up in return, everybody else is on the table.
Doesn’t mean they can make deals. Just means guys are available.
I think they will make a deal or two at the deadline. I don’t know if it will be something big. That depends on who is actually available. However, I do think they will add a starter.
I can’t see them going the rest of the year with Rasner, Giese, and Ponson fighting for spots in the rotation. They are stop gap guys and nothing more.
This guy is all off-speed. Can anyone get a hit.
We’ll score a run eventually…
Somehow…
OMG Russell – was he after Bald Bull and kid Quick?
CHOCHATOES. OYY.
SHOT # 7
sigh
can we get joba some run support!!!
Not sure if it was before or after bald bull but they were right next to each other lol. The Japanese guy was the first in the division.
A-Rod and off speed pitches is Brandon’s new “Threets”.
No run support for Joba.
At this point I think our best bet is to jack up the guy’s PC, hopefully knock him out soon. He’s a little under 70 right now.
In the meantime GO JOBA!!
The offense must be staging a protest to well pitched games
“If you look at the Yankees right now, 5 guys are untouchable in their system: Hughes, Montero, AJax, Brackman, and Melancon.
After that, depending on the player available, the offer, and the players you have to give up in return, everybody else is on the table.
Doesn’t mean they can make deals. Just means guys are available.”
PMay not mean they can’t make deals but it certainly defines the type of deal they can make. Can’t get Sabathia without something out of your untouchable list. Shapiro’s too smart.
SJ44…is brackman really that coveted? Enough to be untouchable
Where is the offense? How is John Banks shutting them out? Joba has thrown too many pitches, but clearly he is a starter
Joba Chamberlain (South Bronx, NYC): Glad you tuned into my start. Think I can be a top 5 pitcher within 3 years? What’s my ratings for my curve/change? Can they be legit out pitches?
Keith Law: (2:25 PM ET ) Yes. Both of those pitches project to 50 (average) or 55 (one grade above) for me, with the curve ahead of the change when I saw him start last summer. The slider will always be his out pitch, though.
From what I’ve heard, Brackman was said to have the 2nd highest ceiling for potential of all pitchers in the 07 draft, after the D-Rays’ no. 1 overall pick David Price. So I’d definitely like to see the Yanks hang on to him.
Smush Parker…
bphill Brackman when healthy touched 101, he was neck and neck w/ David Price earlier last year in SP ranking.
“From what I’ve heard, Brackman was said to have the 2nd highest ceiling for potential of all pitchers in the 07 draft”
and you arent going to draft him, have him get TJ surgery, rehab him, and then trade him before he ever takes the mound for your organization in a professional game.
All three walks have been to left-handed batters. Mostly on pitches up and away.
I thought Brackman was a closer…
Joba’s control is bad today.
oh shut up Lisa from White Stone how the hell is Arroyo a quaility anything in the AL.
SHOT # 9
btw, thanks for copy/pasting all the Keith Law stuff sunny615. Always love to hear what he has to say.
The Marlboro Lady: Lisa from Whitestone
“I think Bronson Arroyo… is a quality, quality pitcher. I don’t think Sabathia is someone to go after.”
“Thinking about what if with Brien Taylor is never very happy but this stings:”
i was in the front row behind the plate at texas ranger stadium in port charlotte when taylor struck out 13 hitters in 6 innings.
the catcher couldn’t even catch him.
it was the most dominating minor league performance i’ve ever seen.
according to mlb gamecast only one pitch in that at bat with gerut was an actual ball..is that accurate?
he has got to cut down on those walks
Can you imagine the level of joy fatcessa would have if the Yankees did get Bronson Arroyo.
Good lord
If I’m Joba right now I am pissed at the offense.
S.O.S. how are you getting this game? I’m blacked out.
Joba’s dominating the righties. But the lefties are working him over.
One more for Joba.
Let’s get some runs!
88 pitches, Joba will most likely only give us 6 innings.
The Yankee No offense Protest continues…
SHOT # 11
“I think Bronson Arroyo… is a quality, quality pitcher. I don’t think Sabathia is someone to go after.â€
Who said this? Get a life Arroyo is no better than a 5. C.C. is a one on just about every team in the majors including the Yanks.
Go Yanks:
Two missed badly, two of the called strikes were off the edge (but the pitchers have been getting that pitch all series), the fourth pitch barely missed. And there were a couple of foul balls.
Bats? Hello? Get to work on Cy Banks
New BabyDaddy Feinsand is back in the saddle. Too bad Sterling and Suz don’t let him get a word in edgewise.
88 pitches through 5 – one more inning for Joba.
I think the Joba to the rotation experiment is working. Once he keeps the walks down he will be downright scary.
I know this is the Padres we are talking about, but so far 5 innings 4 hits and 7 Ks works for me every time. With the offense of the last few days that will usually be good for a win.
Here we go…time to put up a crooked number for Joba…he’ll pitch one more inning and get the win….GO YANKEES !!!
Dregs of the order are up.
Al- I think that quote was from Mike Francessa.
JESUS CHRIST !!! SOME RUNS PLEEEEEASE !!
Anywhere else in the park and that pitch is out ah man!
On Gameday that looks like a 400 foot out?
randy,
I’m sure after seeing him pitch like that in person as a yankee fan news of his injury must have been particularly bad. What promise.
In any generation how many left handed pitchers are there who can throw 97-98 with a plus breaking pitch and good command?
And to think it was a bar fight that ruined his career. If it had been an elbow he’d probably at least gone on to still pitch in the majors.
But with a shoulder just no chance. Just a real shame. Must have been terrible for him and his family.
sonuva !…anywhere else in the Stadium and that is GONE !
Almost for Cano….
Banks’ fastball keeps alternating between 85, 87, and 91
In the weaker league, Bronson Arroyo has given up:
14 home runs
104 hits in 86 innings
32 walks in 86 innings
Batter are hitting .301 against him.
Lefties are crushing him, at a .337 clip.
We want him WHY?
miggs,
mlb.tv
For the love of Bronson Arroyo, can we please score a run????
“Al- I think that quote was from Mike Francessa.”
The caller was saying that. Mike thinks that the Indians will avoid trading CC to us, and that the Cubs will be the only team that goes all in.
Cano smoked some of his outs yesterday. Some of these have got to start falling for him.
Well, on the bright side (I guess) at least we don’t have to face this Banks guy on the regular in Toronto’s rotation…
If Jabba the hut really said that he doesn’t deserve to be on radio. Give me a frickin show I’d make more sense than that guy and I’m still in school, what an idiot but I guess controversy makes you successful in media.
oops me bad!
why dont we score for joba?
maybe they think its the 8th inning and we have a lead.
someone should call Mw/oMD and pretend they’re Arroyo. “umm dude, i suck…”
Zambrano AND C.C. watch the buffet table!
Time for the Joe Girardi patented Questionable Bunt
Nice Melky!
Do you have Molina bunt Melky to third?
Melky = speed demon.
Jesus to think that 1st inning w/ RISP was the best chance to own this game. Note to Long get Alex to swing better at offspeed pitches that’s the biggest headache I have right now
Wow Melk-man showing the wheels.
1 little run, can we just get one?
“Do you have Molina bunt Melky to third?”
Sorry didnt know there was one out.
Time for a patented Molina 2 bagger.
Man Molina stinks get a fly ball dammit!
Bunt to third?!?! TWO OUTS?!?!?
Answer is: Girardi may think it’s a good idea
You can do it Jose!
Melky got wind of this Ichiro silly talk, clearly.
MELKY!!!!!!!
great at bat here by molina..get that pitch count up
THANK YOU !
Game tied!
Jose, you da man.
See? What did I tell you? They will score runs!
(BTW, I was in the bbathroom, how did Melky get to third after a walk?)
suicide squeeze !
Man, Francessa with Arroyo is like randy l with Livan Hernandez
A RUN!!!!
That’s called a Melkyfactured run.
molina is clutch!
We have to trade Melky Cabrera, and now. We simply can’t have someone who plays with his energy and enthusiasm on the team, saving runs and manufacturing them.
He makes the occasional dumbass mistake, but I friggin love the man. Melky in CF forever!
All tied up!
Thank you Jose!!!
I’ve never heard Sterling sound so excited about a SF lol
GO MELKY!!!!!
Great way to manufacture a run!
the melk man!
Steve NY: Is Cole going to the Yanks or UCLA?
Keith Law: (2:36 PM ET ) I assume he’ll sign.
Melky would still be on 1st if Torre was the manager.
Yes, Brackman is that untouchable. A RH David Price.
If he didn’t get hurt, he would have been the first or second pick in the draft last year and would be knocking on the door to the big leagues right now.
I’ve been on the road the past 10 days and one of the most encouraging things I heard from some baseball people is, they believe Brackman could pitch in Hawaii this fall.
That tells me, his rehab is going very, very well.
Brackman has a huge advantage in his rehab. He’s a very well conditioned athlete. TJ surgery has a nearly 100% success rate in terms of fixing the injury. What makes the player come back whole is the rehab. The better conditioned you are, the better chance you have at a full recovery.
If he can make it back in the Fall, and he can get back to what he was, he could be in the majors by mid-season next year. He has the talent to rocket through the system if he is healthy.
Fredo,
Perhaps. It all depends on two things: What are the other offers for CC and does he really want to trade him?
You get close to the deadline and you realize you can’t get one or two of the Top 5 on any team’s list, you reassess your position.
Remember, to trade CC, he has to get more than the two draft picks he would get when he loses him to justify the trade.
As we speak today, no question, no CC without giving up one of the Top 5. But, what if Cleveland is 10 out on July 28 (3 days before the deadline) and the 3 players the Yankees have on the table is the best offer he has?
That’s the question we can answer right now.
That works too!
Bets on whether Francessa calls him jorge molina in a second?
jorge stienbrenner: Post of the afternoon!
If Joba can shut it down, I predict a big offensive inning in the 6th.
Big props to JoeG on pulling the trigger.
Damn Melky.
Where has that been all season long?!
This is the first time I’ve seen him play like this since last year.
C’mon guys – give Joba a WIN
“(BTW, I was in the bbathroom, how did Melky get to third after a walk?)”
Rebecca,
I hate to say this but you need to take it for the team and stay in the bathroom. Its good luck!! We’ll let you know when the game is over.
Look guys (and girls) as fun as it is to rip on Bronson Arroyo and Mike Francessa the truth is, Arroyo is an above average pitcher. Just go look at his numbers. Obviously this year he has not been above average but in previous years he has. I do not want Bronson on the Yankees and frankly I don’t think the Yanks need him but Francessa isn’t THAT crazy for wanting him.
Also, HUGE PROPS to Melky.
WTH ???/ Charge the Mound, Johnny !
oh, and I just realized…what we just saw was the bottom of the order contributing! Warms my heart!
Has there been any word on Zambrano of the Cubs? If his injury is significant that could make them go after CC more aggressively
Damn that play would have sucked more if Molina didnt get the run in but he did so its all good.
“I’m sure after seeing him pitch like that in person as a yankee fan news of his injury must have been particularly bad. What promise.”
my father who was going to the stadium back in the 30’s was with me and said taylor was the best he had ever seen as a yankee at any level.
i was a celtic fan back then and from a fan point of view it felt like when len bias died except that taylor didn’t die.
but for all practical purposes he was done as a yankee.
Rebecca – Melky stole second and third. According to Gameday.
S.o.S.: You don’t want to go there with me. Not today. Trust me.
I also saw Taylor pitch. Hey Randy, I think I was at the same game you were! lol
He was really unbelievable. What an arm.
There’s no crying in baseball but, when I heard he got hurt, I cried. He was going to be great. Truly a can’t miss kid.
One of the saddest stories I’ve ever been around in baseball.
A true case of what might have been.
Joba about to walk lead off guy. NOOOO
Patrick- Arroyo gives up alot of home-runs.
Seattle 25-47 LOL.
“Joba about to walk lead off guy. NOOOO”
I take that back. But, looking at him throwing just 2 pitches, it seems like they are sitting on his pitches.
“Patrick- Arroyo gives up alot of home-runs.”
All I’m saying is go to baseball-reference.com and look at Arroyo’s stats, specifically ERA+ and BB/K it will surprise you.
Let joba finish the inning!
Yankees should go after Kiko Calero if there getting all these other pitchers.He was released from the A’s and unlike all these pitchers in the bullpen now he has expirence in the AL and has actually played good before getting hurt.Can’t be worst then Fransworth,LAtroy,Edwar and Ross.
SJ 44
Here is the big question, which I suspect you have some insight on, is Cashman staying?
Joba’s getting tired. That’s to be expected.
I stepped away for a sec…is Veras warming?
Just checked Gameday. Think Melky hears Gardner’s strides behind him?
Did I just see a curveball from Joba? Unfortunately put himself in a 3-0 count. Needs to start attacking a little more earlier in the AB.
Wow, nice comeback from a 3-0 count!
Does Mo have the day off today? If so,who closes? Veras?
What an ass I hate Girardi what a tool!
damn pitch count
You don’t let Joba try to get one more out? Really?
Let him smoke this last dude to get the WIN !
Love to see Joba acknowledging the crowd, but imo Girardi shudda seen if he could get the final out.
As long as Girardi doesn’t Farnsworth us today, I might be able to live with it.
“Just checked Gameday. Think Melky hears Gardner’s strides behind him?”
Na – no one talks about Gardner as much as we do here at LoHud lol. I think they are just following the same scouting report that they followed the first 2 games. Only this time, a little more drastic because they needed a run to tie.
9 strikeouts in 5 2/3 is awesome
yankees’ prospects are overrated.they can’t pitch long inning.they can’t win game for the team.why bosox prospects can do it well(pitching and hitting )?
I don’t know a lot about the Taylor story. Great prospect that got into a bar fight? Can anyone give me the cliff notes version of the story?
They said 105 he had 100 this is getting ridiculous take the diaper off Joba he is a grown man!
Veras to pitch the 6th , 7th and my guess is the 8th (or Farnsy
)
KKKKKKKKK
Okay, this has to be the last time Joba’s on a count. He’s eventually got to be allowed to at least qualify for a decision.
Dang…..he’d only have needed 5 pitchs max to get Bloop Tony out this time….Oh, well…no Win today…but a great performance ! GREAT JOB, JOBA !!!
Nice job today Joba!! His control wasn’t perfect but you gotta love the way he battled and kept us in the game…9 K’s not too shabby either!
Good move by Girardi. Chamberlain was clearly tiring, and Tony Clark has been a tough out today.
Girardi is doing the right thing here. You can’t take a risk with Joba.
If you are going to err, you err on the side of caution.
He’s still not as stretched out as he will be.
Overall, a very solid outing again for Joba.
This is stupid at this point. Yes, let’s take him out for his “pitch count” when he just fanned the first 2 guys in the inning! Brilliant! Yeah, he looks so tired, blowing the fastball by guys and throwing wicked tight sliders…
Why not let him finish the inning and have a chance for his first win as a starter? Let him face Clark and if he gets on take him out. Don’t just yank him after he K’d 2 guys.
Smart move by Giarardi… 105 limit and he was at 100. If the next guy gets a hit not only do you have to take Joba out anyway, but you leave on a bad note. Joba just struck out the first 2 guys in the inning.
Keep in mind, Banks was at 89 the end of last inning so he will be coming out soon as well. Expect the Yankees to take some pitches this inning.
Joba for All-Star squad!!
“Man, Francessa with Arroyo is like randy l with Livan Hernandez ”
v.
that’s low, really low.
i’m going to have to remember that one .
the big question is can joba reach livan’s average innings per game of 6.1 innings per start?
can you imagine if joba followed him in the yankee rotation?
joba’s fastball would look like a bb.
v. thanks for reminding me about livan hernandez.
i was reoccupied thinking about brien taylor and what could have been.
I think Girardi might have been playing match-up cuz Joba gave up that double last time.
Wait – why is there a coaching visit to the mound with a 1-2 count?
Don’t pin all the blame on Girardi. 100 pitches in 5 2/3 is something that needs to get better.
Nice job Joba!
Sill think he should have been kept in for 1 more out..but whatever
“my father who was going to the stadium back in the 30’s was with me and said taylor was the best he had ever seen as a yankee at any level.”
randy,
that’s unbelievable. i’m sure your dad saw a lot of good arms in his time. i only saw some video on taylor but you could tell that he had just electric stuff.
i wasn’t a celtic fan and was pretty young when bias died but I remember it very well because it was so shocking. I loved college ball and used to follow the NBA draft really closely. I thought the Celitcs were just going to build a dynasty for years with bias. He was so explosive.
Obviously with bias dying it was completely different. But with both guys the sense of pure waste was hard to get over. That’s what was left – just waste. When I found out about taylor I bias came to my mind as well.
Bias dying was just such an awful situation it kind of became a touchstone for what might have been.
I am only watching on Gameday but if Joba was tiring I think this is a good move. Granted he won’t get the win, but an outstanding outing minus the walks. He seemed to be a bit shy in going after the middle of the order. Which incidentally I saw with kennedy too. They seem to have the confidence to get the weaker hitters, but try to be a bit too fine with the heart of the order. But, I will take 1 run, 9 ks and 6 innings every time from Joba.
btw, for the record, I also think it was a wise hook by Girardi. Joba will have plenty more chances to get wins.
This was the kind of AB they wanted Joba to avoid.
still no win for our rookie starters!
How is it low? You both are in love with horrible pitchers
Livan is not a good pitcher. Innings pitched is not a mark of quality. Heck, I could throw 400 innings if absolutely necessary. They might be 15.0 ERA innings, and my arm might fall off, but I could do it, with my 70 mph fastball
I hope I don’t regret saying this, but John keeps saying that Tony has GREEEAAAT power. Um last week was his first home run of the season. Doesn’t he realize that this is not the Tony of 4 years ago?
Girardi manages like a little girl, I can’t stand him last week when Andy was going for the CG and today after Joba embarassed the first 2 hitters.
How come if the Yanks score to go ahead bottom of the inning that Joba cant get the win he pitched 2 of the 3 outs iin the top. isnt it then the scorers call who gets the win or is it becuase he didnt finish the inning that Veras automatically would. Doesnt make much sense to me.
RUNS!!!
sj-
i wasn’t able to watch joba today.
did he throw his two seamer as much as last time?
that pitch, if he works it into his repertoire , almost makes it unfair to hitters.
9 K’s in 5 2/3 is phenomenal. The BB’s suck but hes learning how to start.
What I liked best about Joba’s performance today was the second inning.
Hear me out.
Most pitchers, they walk the bases loaded with no one out, they consider themselves lucky to get out of the jam with one run and maybe the help of a double play. That’s a good day.
What Joba did today–a young, 22 year old kid–to get out of the inning without surrendering one run, and striking out two?
That’s grit.
Most pitchers would fold, especially in the second inning.
Joba didn’t.
If there was any question as to where Joba belongs, he answered it, then and there.
“S.o.S.: You don’t want to go there with me. Not today. Trust me.”
Didnt know you couldnt take a joke. Thats cool Rebecca. Ill make sure the stars are aligned the next time. Better yet, I wont joke with you at all. I thought you knew me better than that. You went from Optimist Prime to a Megatron on me.
Joba:
5.2 IP, 1 ER, 4 H, 3 BB, 9 K, 2.36 ERA
He’s no Bronson Arroyo.
what sucks though is, who’s gonna pitch after Veras? We know Farns’ struggles on back to back days and he already wasn’t good last night…
“I am only watching on Gameday but if Joba was tiring I think this is a good move.”
you mean you didn’t see the little cartoon bags under his eyes?
Went to full counts on both batters. Reached his season high in pitch count. Clearly the time to take him out. You’d feel the same way if he’d walked one of them.
Vrsce,
If I was a betting man, I’d say yes. Not saying its a 100% fact but, I get the feeling both sides will work things out.
Of course, a lot depends on how the rest of the season goes down. However, on the important issues, Hal, Hank and Cash agree more than disagree. That’s a good starting point.
Gayle- Veras is now the pitcher of record.
Rebecca – No question. It also shows he has the stuff to get the Ks on command.
Let me get this straight: If the Yankees score in the bottom of the 6th and then never relinquish that lead, Veras gets the win.
I know it’s only fair, since Joba wasn’t eligible to get the loss either when he came out but…. bah.
Jete hammered it.
We know Farns’ struggles on back to back days and he already wasn’t good last night…
The spirit of Joe Girardi’s belief shall guide him through it
Very nice Joba. Girardi shoulda left him in – He was on a roll – Its only right.
Pitch count – Shmitch count.
S.o.S.: Sorry, didn’t mean to make you upset! It’s just…uh…certain body parts don’t like me very much.
Hey, look! A base hit!
Joba has been keeping us in all of his games. I don’t know how anyone can be disappointed with that.
Agreed, Rebecca. Win or no win, Joba showed a lot today as he has every time he’s started. He’s showing he can keep his team in the game even when he isn’t at his sharpest. He still needs to work a bit on putting away leftys but I am very happy with his performance and progress from start to start.
wow once joba starts to get the hang of pitching i wonder if he’ll ever allow a run…
95 pitches for Banks
Randl l_ No. I’d say he threw maybe 8-10 of them, most early in the game. Lst time I think he threw 15-20.
farnsy can’t pitch back to back days…it just doesnt wotk could we possibly…gasp see hawkins pitch?
This Banks kid is ready to be had.
I thought the Yankees weren’t into this running thing
LOL Brandon. Sad but true. “I liked the way Farns bore down last night after giving up the homer”….gaaah lord help us all!
Randy,
He did. He was having problems controlling it on the outer half to RH hitters.
Overall though, a real solid performance. Walks are still a little high, which ups his pitchcount. Expected with a young pitcher.
But, you really see him getting locked in as a starter. He made some quality pitches at key times today.
Especially in the bases loaded, 0 outs situation.
I bet if Girardi left Joba in he goes 6 innings 10 K’s that impressive.
With the Yanks on a 6 game streak, and facing hitters he won’t see again, I think Joe should let Traber face Giles and Gonzalez next time through. We need to see if that new slider is worth anything.
I thought Brackman was a raw project I didn’t knew he was as polished as David Price.
now can Alex hit an offspeed pitch right ?
Plate him Alex
Gotta get Jeter in from 3rd.
Time to go for the KILL !
I guess so
Who said A-Rod doesn’t clutch?
Lets hope that Melky-produced run sparks him to get it going.
It was a great play, and a flash of the Melky from the last few years… But he still is only hitting .254 this year.
is gamecast a little slow? it seems to freeze at times..did a-rod just come up to bat?
how did jeter get to 3rd on a ground out to 1st?
A-rod is a machine.
A-ROD !!!!!!!!!!!!
AROD I LOVE YOU!!!!
that was easy
Nice. Yanks lead 2-1
I agree Rebecca, that 2nd inning was a major highlight for me, two k’s sandwiching a play at the plate made by Joba. I wonder if any of the talking heads who said Joba to the rotation was a bad idea will actually man up and admit they were wrong. FYI, Gammons did admit it last week, so props to him.
YEAH ALEX!!!
I hear this A-Rod guy is pretty good.
nice job arodien!!!
It’s official – I’m in love with Alex Rodriquez.
Somehow we knew Alex would be making up for lost time. Those numbers are still going to look damn good at the end of the year.
Joba was, again, great today. Even with Rasner, I feel good about our chances to win with our top four right now. This would be something if Wang was around.
Seven games over .500? You’ve got to shake your head sometimes with this team. If only they could play the full 162 AND the playoffs.
Joba wasn’t on a “roll.” He pitched well in the 6th inning, but he was battling and the Padres were sitting. He went to three-ball counts on two good hitters before recovering to strike them out. He’d previously allowed a ground rule double and a walk to Clark. Girardi was right to get someone else in with Chamberlain having thrown 100 pitches for the first time in his career.
A-Rod sends another pitcher to the showers.
how did jeter make it to 3rd on the abreu ground out?
Andrew Brackman draft profile
SJ,
I had read in a few places where the yankees were hopeful that Brackman could throw in Hawaii this winter. But I didn’t want to put much stock in it given how many rumors float around and how the yankees are with injuries.
He comes back and throws in winter ball – that’s just an unbelievably good sign. That would speak volumes for how the organization feels about where he is in his recovery and their expectation for next year.
No way they just send him to Hawaii unless they think he’s medically recovered and will be able to move quickly.
That’s just very good news that they’re even thinking about doing it – they’re not ones to take any chances with young arms as well all know.
And the main point of sending him to Hawaii is to build his arm strength and get him some work. They’d only do that if they’re thinking he’s going to do well next year in minor league competition.
He’s the guy who could send this rotation completely off the charts. Not saying its going to happen. But a rotation with him and Joba in it would be just remarkable.
How many staffs in baseball have 1 pitcher who has 2 75-80 grade pitchers. The yanks would have two.
Josh Banks out… let it rain!
sj-
thanks.
as important as his curve and change up will be as time goes on, having another pitch he can use now to get outs is huge. giving different looks with fastballs is easier to command so he might get really good much faster than if he was having to get command of his curve or change up.
..and he still has the curve and change up.
hitters have no chance of sitting on a pitch with that many pitches.
haha the yanks’ stolen base numbers look great now..thank you padres
Turn2
Not a hard grounder to first from Abreu and he ran on it.
Think they want to go to Beijing for the 100 yard dash or something?
“How many staffs in baseball have 1 pitcher who has 2 75-80 grade pitchers. The yanks would have two.”
and two who are both under 25 years old.
thanks, pat.
I didn’t really follow the farm in the early 90s so I’ve been reading about him since it came up. This taylor guy sounds like a jerk. All the contract stuff sounded really low class.
Another thing, sure he was a lefty with a live fastball, but if he could spot a breaking pitch shouldn’t he still be around?
Anyone else prefer Arod to start sliding feet first? All i can think of is Jeter hurting his shoulder a couple years back.
Anybody see A-rod stealing third and home?
“Anyone else prefer Arod to start sliding feet first? All i can think of is Jeter hurting his shoulder a couple years back.”
Not with the previously aggravated quad.
IBB’ing Jorge…make em pay Cano!
double steal with posada and a-rod?
I’d love to see the Yankees steal home…
I’m taking a psychology course this summer, basic psychology, so I wonder if you can teach an old dog new tricks. Lot of posters were down on the Yankees and said they were through. No chance. Lousy team. Others said the opposite give it time they’ll come around. Maybe you can help me with my project. I’m writing about the attitude and fears of baseball fans as part of overall personality traits.
So here’s my question. Do you think it’s possible for people to overcome their fears through experience? If yes then why do the same fans go through the same trauma every year? I’m going to use the Yankees as an example of a team that may have slow starts but has managed to end up on top or close to it for 12 years running. Even when they’ve been at the bottom of the heap or what looks like pretty out of it. Still people freak out the same way every year and then end up being proven wrong. But they still can’t get past it even though they are proven wrong every year.
Maybe this is too tough a topic for a 5-6 page paper. We’re supposed to write something about changing behavior.
Thanks.
Come on, Cano. Make them pay!!!
CONO !
OMG now we’re doing homework!
Robbie, that wasn’t what you were supposed to do!
man…how sick would this team be if only Cano would start hitting on a regular basis!
“hitters have no chance of sitting on a pitch with that many pitches.”
randy,
I completely agree with you on the two seamer. It’s not just a different pitch – it’s an entirely different look and allows him to vary his entire approach towards the hitter. He’s already an extreme groundball pitcher, but with that two seamer he can induce double plays and conserve pitches.
Perhaps even more importantly it’ll give him a different weapon to use on days when he might not have his best stuff. That pitch will be a way for him to get easier outs.
The thing that’s exciting about Joba is that he really does have a repertoire of pitches and for a 22 year old kid knows how to use them.
Each game he’s getting better. He didn’t use his 2 seamer as much as he did last game but I think part of that may have just been related to how good his four seamer and slider were today.
He’s still a work in progress – but each start there’s real improvement.
It’ll take time but he’ll learn how to maximize the value of being able to throw 5 pitches which range from above average to dominant.
I used to be terrified of driving on the highway, but now that I’ve done it so much, I actually enjoy it.
However, I’m still terrified of thunderstorms.
Into the 6th.
1 run.
4 hits.
9 K’s.
3 walks.
Joba IS the man from Nantucket … er … Nebraska.
And he’s just getting ’started’.
So glad I am that he’s in for more than just the 8th now.
CB,
My nephew faced both Price and Brackman last year. He doubled off Price in his first collegiate AB. He then popped out and flied out.
He had trouble picking up his slider. Really thought it was a quality pitch. His fastball? Fast with late movement.
He was really impressed with Price.
Brackman?
First time up, here was sequence: 99 MPH fastball on the outer half. Then, a 96 MPH fastball up that he swung through to go 0-2. Next pitch was a curveball in the dirt he swung through for strike 3.
Told me after the game he didn’t even see the curveball out of his hand. Walked the next time up and then reached on an error.
He’s caught Price on a summer league team a couple of years ago. Said his improvement was off the charts from that time.
Brackman? To this day, he said he was the toughest pitcher he faced in his college career. Besides Price, he faced Chris Hernandez of UM (a future first round pick), Ryan Perry from AZ (the Tigers first round pick), and Alex White from UNC, who could be the first pick in the ‘09 Draft.
If Veras gets out of this un-scathed, do you think we see Farnsworth again in the 8th? Maybe Ohlendorf?
WALK AHHH!!!!
Jose.
Walks = bad.
“If Veras gets out of this un-scathed, do you think we see Farnsworth again in the 8th? Maybe Ohlendorf?”
Not that I have much hope when he walks the lead off guy.
Oh God … spirit of Oli Perez please leave Jose Veras alone
Come on, Blue !…Ring that Padre UP !!!
awesome, a leadoff BB
Leadoff walk… Not a great start.
Veras wants badly to prove himself!
Someone told me when the leadoff man gets on he has a 70% chance of scoring. We’ll see.
Jose…..you can do it, son !
I think we’ll see Ohlendorf at some point today. Someone else also brought up a good point before about letting Traber pitch to the lefties.
Kay just had a total Yoda moment.
who pitches the 8th?
Some bad news, depending on how you look at it, but Chipper is under .400 now…
‘Kay just had a total Yoda moment.’
i thought i was the only one to notice, but he’s been doing this a lot this season…
“Kay just had a total Yoda moment.”
what do you mean?
SJ,
Great reports from your nephew. If he’s healthy his stuff is just off the charts.
How much did your nephew feel like Brackman’s height was a factor in making his stuff so good? Was it Brackman’s ridiculous release point that made the curve so difficult to pick up? Did he feel like the ball was exploding on him because of Brackman’s long stride/ arms?
Did he find him herky jerky at all or uncoordinated due to his size?
I particularly ask that because Perry throws technically with the same velocity as Brackman does but I’d guess the experience of facing both pitcher’s fastballs was entirely different.
Oli Perez be gone already !
TurnTwo: Inverted sentence structure, he used.
auuuurgh….what is so hard about throwing strike 3 in a 3-2 count?!?!
” my arm might fall off, but I could do it, with my 70 mph fastball ”
v.
first of all you can’t throw 70
mph unless you’re dropping it off the empire state building.
to take the argument to an absurd situation to make the point, think what would happen if a team had a pitcher who pitch every inning of every game and that pitcher had and era of 6.00 .
don’t you think that having 11 other roster spots open on the team might have an impact on the offense?
or the opposite situation where you had 12 pitchers who had a 1.00 era but could only give you 80 innings each. who pitches the other 500 hunderd innings?
when some of the 12 extend themselves past a certain point to fill that 500 innings, they will not be the same pitcher.
these are absurd situations that will never happen , but the point is innings matter.
if a team is filled with starters who can go deep into starts, relief pitchers can remain unexposed.
maybe an extra offensive player can be added. having to many rookie starters who are on an innings restriction or pitchers who are fragile for any reason is a real problem.
you have to admit , the twins don’t use as many relief pitchers on average in a game livan hernandez pitches as the yankees do when a rookie is pitching for them.
over time this makes the twins bullpen better than the yankee bullpen if all things were equal to start.
get out of this
Speaking like Yoda Kay is.
Noticed it too I have.
Wang, Joba, Brackman, Betances, Hughes, Cole, Garcia, Inoa (please be the baseball deities) – and those are only the potential 1-2 starters for the Yankees in the next couple of years.
how can Kay really be the play-by-play guy for the NY Yankees?
i dont get it.
VERAS comes through…..Somebody make sure Farnsworth is nowhere near ready to pitch today…..Go let loose a wild turkey in the bullpen and throw him a shotgun !
He’s out of it
“Someone told me when the leadoff man gets on he has a 70% chance of scoring.”
Jose Veras: Proud member of the 30% club since June 2008. w00t!!
Came through, Veras did
Speaking of Brien Taylor, what ever happened to Katsuhiro Maeda, a guy the Yankees picked up in the mid-late 90s, had a NY Times article written about, then disappeared. Just a flop?? Always wondered about him.
Jeter’s hits today put him at 2429 for his career and move him ahead of Kenny Lofton. He is now #100 all time. Only 1827 more to catch Rose.
i’ve heard the A’s are the frontrunners for Inoa…supposedly offering 4 mil. any1 think the yanks will match that?
No. No.
PLEASE NO!!!!!!!
Tell me I did not just see Kyle Farnsworth warming?
No. Krazy is pitching.
Game’s over.
Does anyone know where i can find the career college stats of Brackman?
kill me I just saw farnsworth up
LMAO. Out of it, he got.
Some more runs, we should score.
Would be nice, a little cushion.
I sort of wish we had a Rob Neyer amongst us to do the leg work and figure out who SJ’s nephew is (I’m thinking of Neyer’s book about baseball legends and such).
I just saw something on my TV screen that sent chills up and down my spine. I don’t even want to say what it was. But Joe Girardi has confidence in it.
An insurance run, let’s get
Jebus….blindly loyal to Krazy, Girardi is.
Kyle Harmsworth! Fasten your seatbelts!
I know Melky’s one of the heros of the day.
But he needs to start hitting.
Krazy is warming up? Groan
We need 20 runs now
sit Farnsworth down, Joe Girardi must!
JRVJ: Problem is, if we can find out who the nephew is, we break the blog’s cardinal rule and find out who SJ is!
CB,
Its the advantage of having a nephew who is a catcher! lol
His size was a lot in the assessment. He told me it felt like he was on top of him when he released the pitch.
On the breaking ball, he had a tougher time reading the release point and the ball acted as if it was a slider because he threw it so hard.
After the game, he asked him if it was a slider and he said, “No, that was my curveball”. It was nasty.
They will clean up his delivery a little bit in Tampa. Overall though, his mechanics are pretty solid for such a big guy.
I think his basketball background helps him because his footwork and mechanics allow him to stay back on his delivery more than Randy Johnson did at the same age.
I saw Randy Johnson when he was in the Expos minor league system and he was all over the place with his delivery. He had amazing stuff but, couldn’t repeat his delivery.
Once he cleaned it up, he became Randy Johnson.
With Brackman, he’s light on pitching experience but, his mechanics and stuff are really off the charts.
Rebecca thanks. Maybe the point is the deeper the fear the harder it is to get past it? Since yours is thunderstorms it doesn’t have to be tied to “meaningfulness” of the experience. Someone in class going through a divorce said her husband didn’t care enough to change. Someone else said maybe the changes were so hard for him he couldn’t do them.
If anyone here wants to give comments I would appreciate it. If you find you are negative about the Yankees every year are you also negative in general? If you are negative every year and then the Yankees find a way to get the job done every year do you know why you can’t let that guide how you feel when the same thing happens?
Sorry to do this while a game is going on. I will check back after the game in case someone wants to answer later.
Thanks.
mark
a double, it is
watching curveballs go by, molina is
How tall is Melky?
Well, I mean, Girardi could have switched the use of Farnworth and Veras. But I don’t trust Farnsworth to throw in two innings. I mean, who else can he use? I love Ross’s potential, but this is not a spot for him.
Finally the fly ball at the line breaks our way.
The man, Jose Molina is.
Veras’s really has terrific stuff. Hitters are only hitting .213 off of him with a measly .292 slugging percentage. WHIP of 1.02. Striking out over 9/ 9innings. He’s given up 15 hits in 21 innings. That is terrific.
He’s walked 7 in 21 innings this year. That’s actually not a bad rate. But he seems to cluster his walks together and get himself into trouble at times. But he’s generally worked out of the trouble he’s gotten into this year.
Girl Friday-
He’s listed as 5′11.
“How tall is Melky?”
5′2″… the TV adds a few inches.
GCL 2008 Roster is out
nice Molina
Gotta get him home
I sense a disturbance in the force. A worthless Farns might be upon us.
Robbed twice, Damon is
How the hell was that not a base hit?
Damn, Damon really tried.
Jeter, I’m begging you for a 3-hit day.
Maybe Girardi has Farnsworth warming to motivate the hitters.
someone earlier today questioned Gile’s defense …got anything to say now
Okay is Suzy and John going nuts over nothing? Was that a good catch?
Far to much Yoda talk haha.
Jesus, these outfielders have been killing us all day.
A commie, Brian Giles is.
And he has to go through the “heart” of the San Diego order. Worst offense in baseball but the heart nonetheless.
I was mad at Molina for not tagging up on that play, but then I wondered: if he’s standing at 2nd base and the ball drops, can he score?
And I agree that we need more runs if Darth Farnsworth is really coming in.
lets have some confidence in farnsworth…confidence goes a long way..thats wat i never got about ny fans…we boo someone so fast….the booing makes them worse…girardi is just tryin to give farnsworth some confidence…once he gets it goin..hell be important for us
And he has to go through the “heart†of the San Diego order. Worst offense in baseball but the heart nonetheless.
How is this allowed to happen
jennifer, it was a good catch, but it’s so sad that we as fans can’t take our announcers word for it when they describe something.
“Was that a good catch?”
Very good. Laid out near the right field line to make the catch.
Gee,,,we have 3 catchers, right ?…Can someone tell me why A-Gon is not running for Fat Boy right now ?
com’on hitting groove w/ 2 out RISP
“Maybe Girardi has Farnsworth warming to motivate the hitters.”
Haha, that got me smiling.
With 3 catchers on the roster, why no PR for Molina?
A huge honking hit, Bobby needs.
SJ,
Thanks for the detailed reports. Lots to look forward to. Two years ago it as great tracking Joba put up those ridiculous starts in Hawaii. Hopefully we get to see something similar this year with Brackman.
Come on Bobby, your due.
We need to score 2 more just in case farnsworth decides to give up 2 runs today…..)
Why is Molina clogging up the bases? Dusty Baker would have him get picked off so Jeter can steal 2nd.
SJ: Excellent question–would we lose the DH if we did that, though?
Betemit would be the PR? He’s no speed demon either, is he?
“With 3 catchers on the roster, why no PR for Molina?”
Only 2 when Posada’s the DH.
C’mon Bobby
“With 3 catchers on the roster, why no PR for Molina?”
with who? we dont have a real pinch runner on the bench.
weak in the force, old abreu is
Failed, Bobby has.
In danger, our lead is.
Insurance runs, we will not have.
Dave Bush is throwing a no-hitter, for those with MLB.TV
OH GOD…… LADY’S AND GENTLEMEN ASSUME YOUR POSITIONS HOLD ON TO THE RAILINGS ..THE ROLLERCOASTER IS ABOUT TO START MOVE UP AND W/E YOU DO DON’T LOOK DOWN !!!
Krazy Kyle, here comes….if you got em, smoke em you should.
Time to pray, we must
Any greater baseball indignity than being no hit by Dave Bush?????
AND I KNOW IT LADIES (I’M JUST TOO NERVOUS RIGHT NOW TO REMEMBER)
Hold onto your seats – 80% chance first batter either BB or HR
Oh no! Farnsworth rules Joe! Why is he forcing Kyle into the 8th inn role?
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh boy. Hold on tight guys, we’re in for a rough ride.
everyone hide! it’s krrrrrrraaazzzy kyle
Anyone have nailbeds left?
This…I can’t watch….tell me when it’s over….
Oh, it’s official, Farnsworth’s face just popped up on Gameday. I hate day games like this when I am at work. Nothing gets done, I can’t relax, ugh. I really should be fixing the New Jersey electric industry right now…
I’m saying this right now – damn you Farnsworth for blowing the lead lol
I really can’t stand this crap about “8th inning guy”. Regardless of how Farns does here, Traber should’ve been given two batters and then have Farns (or Ollie) come in. I wish Joe would mix and match more.
“…the Yankees bring in their 8th inning guy, Joba Chamberlain…” Kay just said.
I will go out on a limb and predict the longest of shots- a 1-2-3 inning from Farnsy. In a close game. After pitching last night. A triple parlay that woudld be.
Well at least Fransworth gave up a run without blowing the game maybe he’s due for a 1-2-3 inning.
But this is he’s second straight day.He never plays good two days in a row or back to back.
I’m scared!!!
Trust me Motown, you aren’t the only one. But if you’re looking to quit, this inning would be a good time.
BREAKING NEWS: krazy kyle has taken girardi’s family hostage and will only let them go if girardi lets him pitch the 8th every day
whoever wants traber in with a 1 run lead over farnsworth is Krazy.
Joe Girardi is clearly the victim of Jedi mind tricks.
“This is not the relief pitcher you’re looking for.”
Single… here we go.
HOLD ON EVERYBODY WE’VE NEEN THROUGH THIS BEFORE, TOUGH HILL COMING !!!!
“Anyone have nailbeds left?”
Nope lost those after watching Farnsworth last year.
what a surprise.
so who is out when melancon comes up?
Ok so a DP would be the same as a 1-2-3 right?
ugh….how it starts, this is…
Headley is hitting 364 this year.
Russell – quit my job, or quit being a Yankee fan?
Oh, here we go with the base hits already.
&)$&()$&@ Single.
I’m biting my nails.
Motown: At least if my power goes out, I’ll know why.
Hee Hee Hooo
Hee Hee Hooo
I’m sitting here doing lamaze breathing
When does Melancon get to SWB???? Doesn’t seem there’s much more he can show in Trenton.
I can hear the boos.
How long do we have to suffer from farnsy? I just threw up my sanwich, my workmates wanted to take me to the hospital.
Nick,
do you have dish network? i can’t get yes on comcast. or r you watching on mlb.tv?
With Willie gone and John McLaren getting axed by Seattle, John Gibbons may be on the bubble unless the Jays climb out of their funk.
HOLD ON TO THE RAILS WE’RE STILL NOT DONE !!!!
One more out!
OK Farnsy, ONE MORE. PLEASE!
Big out there on a pretty good hitter.
Rebecca – I’m working on your power for 2009 though.
I’m dreading the “In play, run(s)” on gameday.
The nastiness, Farnsy was.
Well that was surprisingly pleasant.
joe girardi is a genius.
IT’S OK TO LOOK WE LIVE AGAIN !
We need Pete to ask some questions on Robertson and Melancon. You know they’re coming…
Russell NY-
Haha thats the worst.
Jeezus – I think my heart stopped.
Wow we all look dumb today
And EXHALE!
!!!!!!! KRAZY KYLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
MO WIN TIME.
Farnsy u the man! now release him.
kd, I have DirecTV and I subscribe to the MLB package. I meant to ask you some time ago, are you a Cal Bear too?
Maybe that was why Molina was left in the game: he has the mojo to get Farns through the trouble.
Um, wow, two Ks, 13 pitches, Farnsy just bought us two more weeks of heartburn.
Give Girardi some credit – he believes in the guy.
Farnsworth threw 5 sliders that inning and the batters missed every one of them. I hope he learned something from that.
The Farnz works his 2nd day in arow, he’s the best
this is too stressful watching farnsworth – the guy is just crazy unpredictable – yuo don’t know which way it is going to go – ahhhhhhhhh
farnsworth obviously made a deal with the devil (aka espn) to pitch a scoreless inning
is it over yet ???
The Yankees pitchers have more swinging strikes and Ks today than Mussina has gotten in three years. Power arms = missing bats = good things will happen.
Good starting pitching is how to solve bullpen problems.
Oh, I forgot, this is the NL. carry on
Dave Bush, no hitter no more.
Farnsworth shutting up M&tMD and the haters with the good performance.
No hitter over in Milwaukee.
” Back later with updates. Enjoy the game. ”
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was that a joke ?…PETE ?….where are ya,,,???? PETE ???
Good job by Farnsworth.
Bush no hitter over. Overbay tripled.
MUCH smarter than me, Joe Girardi is.
The job done, Farnsworth got!
Didn’t Farnsworth have his own cheerleader here? Farns making that dude look like a genius.
Dave Bush blew it. too bad. y is it that all players perform well against thier former teams?
Ouch. Lose’s the no-no on a triple.
Well, at least it wasn’t a cheap it.
Nick,
Go Bears!! Maybe one day we’ll get that athletic facility so we can get usc’s recruits.
I really have to get direct tv, comcast is worthless.
Will Farnsworth ever have higher trade value than now?
Thankfully, today was the “Good Kyle”.
You say, “thank you” and move on.
You know when to ask about Robertson and Melancon? When they are put on the 40 man roster.
Until then, they aren’t coming to NY. If Pete asked the question, Cashman would just give a stock (”not yet”) answer.
You will know its getting close when they are put on the 40 man.
hey Michael T.
no offense bro.. but you just insulted our most consistent pitcher and our leader in the w column… and he does strike people out…. its just little league fastball speed (changeup)
how come it got really quiet with the farnsworth talk all of a sudden?
Wow Giambi’s swing is ugly today. 3Ks
egads – i hop mo’s got his game on
Insurance runs, the Yankees do not like to get.
Farnsworth has been bad enough that we’ll be doing that until the end of the season. And he’ll continue to justify it with a stinker every fourth outing and his thrill-a-minute pitching style every single outing.
By the way, Portugal is about to break my heart.
ok, one more inning for another sweep! even if it is against the Padres!
wonder how the Cubs liked getting a taste of the Rays! sure brought them down a few pegs off the ego pole.
goyanks, there is virtually no confidence in Farnsworth on the LuHud comments section. That doesn’t mean anyone is rooting for him to fail. He makes us nervous, and deservedly so. His appearances are traumatic events, regardless of the outcome. If they end well, as that one did, many of us try to forget the pain we just endured and move on.
For me to regain my trust in Farnsworth (and I mean saying “phew, Farnsworth is coming in”), he would have to get 1-2-3 innings until his contract is up. Call me pessimistic, but I just don’t see that happening.
These umps are squeezing Mo every game.
That’s the Mo I love.
that was the 13th k of the day…
kd, I don’t know if you saw the story, but there was just a ruling on the tree matter. Note to everyone who isn’t a Cal Berkeley fan: this link will not be of interest to you.
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/.....11BB50.DTL
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this guys a twig…he doesnt look like he belongs here
1 more…
Always nice to play the Padres and never see Hoffman.
rebecca,
portugal being down 3-1 is a very surprising result. who knew germany was that good.
OK seriously
Mo is not human.
14th K baby
kd: Germany is that good–just that Portugal should be better!
SEVEN GAMES OVER .500!
7 GAMES ABOVE .500
wow
wow
wow
wow
He is sooooooo GOOD.
7 in a row! Keep it up!
2
3
STRRRRRRRRRRRRIKE THREE! BALLGAME OVER. YANKEES WIN. THUHUHUHHUUHHUHHU YAAAAAAAAAAANKEES WIN!
Incredible. Pitching his 3rd day in a row too.
I’m going to file a complain with MLB to send remove the padress to quadruple A (AAAA) thery don’t belong in the majors.
MO is a MOnster!
7 straight! 2nd sweep in a row. Let’s keep it up with the Reds. Can I ask for 10 straight?
wow – THIS was a major win. 6 in a row. I am feelin great!
Good job Joba! Very nice outing.
Lets get ready to kill the reds now too!
Moe- Youre a funny fellow.
2 NL series, 2 sweeps
how many more can we have ?
Mo is just unbelievable. Batters are hitting .132 off him this year. He has a WHIP of .55.
Mariano for Cy Young!
LOL at Jeter throwing his gum at Melky then Melky kicking it.
Does Joba get the win?
40 wins.
How ’bout that?
The G.O.A.T., Mo is!!!
A great game and series, this was! w00t!!
Tomorrow night needs to be gritty and gutty against Volquez, especially with Giese on the mound Sat.
Need to win the Cinci series!
2 NL series, 2 sweeps
how many more can we have ?
Thank You Sir, May I Have Another?
It’s too bad we can’t play all our games against the NL. I really think we’d go 150-12.
So why exactly are we playing the Padres anyway? This year the Yankees are facing the NL Central in interleague, no? Why the NL West team?
I’m not saying I want Bronson Arroyo, but he really isn’t as bad as people think.
In two years with Boston he pitched:
178IP’s with a 121 ERA+
200+ IP”s with a 100 ERA+ (league average)
He’s having a horrible year this year but he wasn’t terrible at all in the AL.
Sign me up for 170+ league average innings from a pitcher not making an insane amount of money any day.
He also has a lifetime ERA+ of 107. He’s really not that bad.
banks, welcome to the bronx…pitch the game of ur life and all you come up with is a loss
another time when mo struck out the side..seriously how many times has he done it this season. He keeps getting swings and misses. seriously mo for cy young
I’m not sure I have ever admired anyone in my life as much as I admire Mariano Rivera. What an absolute delight it is to watch him dominate like this. There are no words. I love you MO!!!
Cincinnati-3
Pittsburgh-3
Mets-4
Rangers-4
There is no reason we cant go 12-2 or 11-3 over this stretch.
Wow Mo is filthy but unfortunately he now needs a game off.
Randy made a point earlier that Joba needs to ’start pitchin like Livan(going 6 innings?)’ , if Livan were pitching we lose this game.
Absolute dominance by our pitching this series.
They struck out 50% of batters faced
I am conservative I say that the Yanks would go 140-22 in the NL.
We really are so lucky we get to watch Mo do what he does for our team. Mo and Alex are such terrific baseball players. I love watching them.
These are games they should be winning. Now they’re doing it. Better keep it up too, because Boston probably won’t do worse than 5-1 with the Cards and D’backs visiting Fenway. Good opportunity to close the gap with the Rays though, who play the Marlins who are pretty tough at home.
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MO ROCKS !
Kyle Farnsworth was brought here to be what Tom Gordon was for us, and what Mo was in ‘96 for us, which is a closer-caliber guy in the 8th inning. He was given closer money. He hasn’t even come close to doing the job in three seasons. Therefore, there’s no reason to have confidence in him.
Let’s not let that cloud another awesome victory for the Yanks. Seven over .500? I really like that.
Okay, Bob Lorenz, I get to call him Farnsy. You, uh, don’t.
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves, especially with the Reds. They have very good starting pitching and Volquez has been hands down the best pitcher in baseball this year.
The yanks are playing better but they’re still having trouble scoring runs in games they don’t hit home runs in. They also have no idea what they are going to get out of Giese or who is going to pitch the other game of the double header.
Between facing Volquez and that double header they could definitely take a couple of steps back.
C’mon Cubbies, beat the Rays tonight to salvage a game. The Yankees gotta gain some ground on somebody.
PJH sweeping Cincy won’t be easy with Volquez on the mound. Mets just took 2 of 3 from LAA, plus they always get up to play us, especially at Shea. Texas is a solid team, and Pittsburgh aint as bad as they usually are. Those teams are definitely not pushovers.
“But with both guys the sense of pure waste was hard to get over. That’s what was left – just waste. ”
“The saddest thing in the world is wasted talent” Robert Dineiro – A Bronx Tale
Derek Jeter authentic jersey for sale:
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“LOL at Jeter throwing his gum at Melky then Melky kicking it.”
It’s a ritual, they do that every time they win a game.
A quick glance at the comments here looks like it was a fun game, can’t wait to watch it tonight. So no Trevor Hoffman, I’m glad Padres didn’t get to use him this series but would have been nice to see the Hoffman vs. Mo match-up. That would be insane.
Looking forward to Moose and his win #11 tomorrow. Gotta say, finally got to see Cy Peavy last night, Brandon Webb at Shea last week and also Santana from the last subway series game, it’s only one-game sample per I know, but these NL “aces” didn’t impress me at all. Even with Wang out, I’m still optimistic about our rotation especially with Mo, Andy and Joba so dialed in now. I hope Cashman doesn’t go out to do anything rash the next few weeks.
Went to our first game of the year today. Great game, great weather!