Game 75: Reds at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 21, 2008 
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YANKEES (40-34)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Giese RHP
Dan Giese (1-1, 1.23) vs. the Cincinnati hitters.
Daryl Thompson has never faced any of the New York hitters.
Notes: Thanks to Kevin Devaney for calling in the lineup. … Dan Giese will be making his first MLB start. He is in the rotation in place of the injured Chien-Ming Wang. Giese, 31, has appeared in 11 games (and 16.7 innings) in relief for the Giants and Yankees over the last two seasons. He was the top starter at Scranton before he was called up and made a long reliever. … Thompson is being called from Triple-A Louisville to make the start. He was 3-0, 3.25 in four starts for Louisville after going 3-2, 1.76 in 10 starts for Double-A Chattanooga. … The Yankees have won 10 of 13 but have scored only four runs in their last two games. … The Yankees are 6-3 against the NL this season with nine games left. … Johnny Damon (6), Alex Rodriguez (8) and Derek Jeter (9) have modest hitting streaks. … Bobby Abreu (2 for 29) and Jason Giambi (0 for 12, 5 strikeouts) have gone cold. … The bullpen rested up last night, so Mariano Rivera, Kyle Farnsworth and Jose Veras should be available.
I am off today and tomorrow but will update the blog as needed. It’s supposed to be a nice weekend, so go outside. Listen to the game on the radio or something.
Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 9:53 a.m.: Just when I think I’m out … this press release from the Yankees:
Prior to today’s game, Alex Rodriguez will be honored with the 2007 Babe Ruth Home Run Award, given annually to the Major League leader in home runs. The award will be presented in an on-field pregame ceremony at approximately 12:45 by three generations of Ruth’s family—his daughter, Julia Ruth Stevens; grandson, Tom Stevens; and two great-grandchildren, Brent and Amanda Stevens.
In 2007, Rodriguez led the Majors with 54 home runs, establishing a Yankees franchise record for homers by a right-handed batter. Following the campaign, he won his third career Most Valuable Player Award (also 2003 and 2005) and third Babe Ruth Home Run Award (2002 and 2003).
UPDATE, 10:19 a.m.: That didn’t take long. The Associated Press has already moved a story on Pat Venditte. Most famous player in the New York-Penn League. At least until someboldy starts throwing with their feet.
anyone going to the all star game?
Lets hope Abreu and Giambi pick it up starting today.
‘Hey guys! I’m headed out to the game in about twenty minutes or so…I have seats that are apparently, uh, section 2, row A.
So, um. If you see a 22 y/o female in a Scranton hat an a navy blue hall of fame Yankees t-shirt? Holler.
(I was going to wear the LoHud blog night shirt, but it’s so big you could probably fit two of me inside one…)
Can’t post to the blog from my phone, though, so I’ll see you all after. I’m 0-3 on games I go to this year so far, so hopefully that will change.
Abreu when into this slide when he hit that pitcher in the face. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear that he altered his swing a bit because of it, and now isn’t hitting the ball.
Giambi wasn’t going to stay hot like that all the rest of the season.
Good on A-Rod. How cool would it be to be a member of Babe Ruth’s family though. Though it would be tough to play baseball, kind of like Julian Lennon trying to do music.
Rebecca, if they lose today, you will be officially banned from going to any more games.
munchabuncha: Yeah, but you see, last year I was 3-0.
It’s just karmic payback, really, so now, I’m even.
rebecca-
behind home plate or on the tier?
Fat Free: Homeplate. Next to the guy with the [radar] gun, apparently.
And no, I have never had seats like this before. Hence the self absorbed bragging.
Peter, have a great weekend. You’re doing a great job with that blog here.
Pete, Venditte was on Sportscenter last night.
I wish Giese the best but its yet another career minor leaguer age 31 with 16 major league innings under his belt.
You think it will get to the point where A-Rod starts passing some of his awards out to fans in the stands. He’s got so many, he probably has a separate house on a property just filled with them.
My that’s some history Dan Giese has there against Cincy, lol. I’m sure glad I took the time to click that.
Rebecca-
we’re green with envy.
take some pictures for your blog.
Fat Free …
I’m going to the All Star Game…yipeee !!! I got the tickets at the pre-sale as I am a semi season ticket holder.
The best part …my bosses paid for them as a bday present to me. I LOVE my bosses. It will be my first All Star Game and the one most important to me …the final season of the Stadium.
I hope the Yankees start another streak today. Good luck Dan Giese…Go Yankees 2008 !!!
Fat Free: Of course! Camera’s already in my pocket!
anyway, gotta go find my hat lest the sun sear my scalp (and trust me, it likes to do so)
Catch you all later. Go Yankees! 27 in 08!
Rebecca, maybe you’ll be on the CF cam. That would sure be better to see in the background than some fat old slob slamming down as much food as he can for 6 innings. And I say 6 because after that he’s gone!
Rebecca ..
Great seats !! Enjoy !!! Break that losing streak today …I’ll be there tomorrow so I want them to be on the start of another winning streak.
Go Yankees 2008 !!!
“It’s hilarious to think that Phil Hughes is considered “untouchable†in trade talks after watching Volquez pitch. Now that guy is the real deal…a number one quality starter. Hughes is just a low 90’s straight fastball guy who, if he’s lucky, will be a number 4 starter. And Kennedy is an even bigger bust.
The Yanks are stuck with Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy…great, just great……”
This is from the previous post, but I had to go with it.
CHECK OUT VOLQUEZ’S MAJOR LEAGUE NUMBERS.
He’s a month shy of 25.
He was called up at 22 on August 30th, 2005. He got lit up. Bad. Worse than Hughes and Kennedy in April. 6 games (3 starts), 0-4 with a 14.21 ERA and a 2.76 WHIP. OUCH!
2006, did pretty well (but not amazingly well) in AAA, and was called up in August again. 4 runs in 5 innings in start #1, 7 scoreless in #2, then horrible from there on out. 1-6 in 8 starts, 7.29 ERA.
2007 was up and down (his single-A numbers were bad), and had a nice run in AAA prior to a September callup…. and… 2-1 in 6 starts, 4.50 ERA.
However, scouts never said ‘bust’. He always had the ability and talent, and the Ks were always for real. When the Rangers inquired about Hamilton, the Reds basically said Volquez, or no deal. Period. And, well, guess who IS for real?
Anyone giving up on Hughes after a month of PITCHING INJURED, is an absolute moron, in my opinion. The guy is still front of the rotation talent.
Check out Andy Pettitte’s beginnings, heh.
If the Yankees could get Hamilton for Hughes? I think they’d do it. But a 3 month ace rental? No way.
Rebecca – Have fun. Cheer the Yanks to a win.
Yanksgal07 – Congratulations on getting All-star game tickets. Should be a lot of fun. You have a good game to go to tomorrow with Andy Pettitte pitching.
gee Yankeegal07, nice bosses.
Listen on the radio, Pete? Have you listened to a Yankee radio broadcast recently? It could very well be one of the most horrific things on the radio today. I used to listen on the radio all the time but at this point I’d rather listen to nails on a chalkboard than Suzyn “Of all the dramatic…” Waldman. When is her contract up? I can’t handle it anymore.
Wow, Jeter has the 5th highes zone rating of all SSes this year so far: http://www.hardballtimes.com/t.....mit=Submit
Thanks Fran …I was at the game Tuesday when Andy pitched. I go to about 30-40 games a year both at the Stadium and on the road so fortunately I get to see them all pitch quite a bit. I LOVE My Yanks !!!!
Fat Free …I have the best bosses in the world especially since they understand my Yankee passion and tolerate it ..lol
Go Yankees 2008 !!!!
The Yankees on the radio is what they make detainees at GITMO listen to.
Oh ..and ..one thing about my bosses …THEY ARE FROM BOSTON !!! HAHAHAHA …Thankfully not baseball fans or I probably would have been fired years ago ..lol.
Go Yankees 2008 !!!
I wonder when the last game was when both starting pitchers were making their first MLB start…
Who’s got the stats on that?
to V,
Many times I think you can be a bit rough on bloggers who do not share your opinion, but your last post is real good. Patience is key, and each pitcher develops at his own rate and speed. There are no guarantees either. I am an old school fan, who weather it be right or wrong for this baseball environment feels that the Yanks need to trade for proven talent if they want to win now. I for one, would have traded one of the pitchers, I`d rather have traded Kennedy than Hughes but I would have moved either in a package for Santana. I am discouraged by the amount of older minor league journeyman pitchers that the Yanks parade through. I would like to see the Yanks build through the farm but I also like the additon of high end major components to win, instead of plugging in stop gap career minor leaguers. I think every give away game will come back and haunt the Yankees. I realize they will pay more in $$$ and prospects doing it that way but thats what it takes to win now sometimes
V – wow. i am amazed by whoever wrote what you just quoted. as short-sighted as can humanly possibly be.
this kid struggled, just like any other young pitcher struggled, and SEEMS to have put it all together this year. we’re willing to be patient with everyone else’s pitchers but ours.
Volquez pitched a great game last night. Looks like the real deal, and I wish every young pitcher in this game (not named Buchholz) nothing but lasting success, but lesser men have started All-Star Games in the past.
he also looks like about 10 times the party animal Robbie Cano is.
Now let’s see if Dan Giese REALLY is Aaron Small. For those who want to whine about him being in our rotation, I seem to remember an over-30 journeyman being in Boston’s rotation for a bit last year, although his name escapes me.
the good thing about ended winning streaks is that it just means you start new ones. Go Yanks!
Daryl Thompson, unknown AAA pitcher?
Oh boy, this could be how you spell 2-game losing streak
ARod is somewhat quietly putting together what could be another great season. If he hadn’t missed 2 weeks he’d be leading the league in everything.
If there’s anyone here who’s still peddlin the ARod is a loser or a choker line please get a fu***** life.
I hope Venditte becomes a starter. He could go deep and his pitch count will be like 200, 100 on each arm. He would throw a CG everytime
“to V,
Many times I think you can be a bit rough on bloggers who do not share your opinion, but your last post is real good. Patience is key, and each pitcher develops at his own rate and speed. There are no guarantees either. I am an old school fan, who weather it be right or wrong for this baseball environment feels that the Yanks need to trade for proven talent if they want to win now. I for one, would have traded one of the pitchers, I`d rather have traded Kennedy than Hughes but I would have moved either in a package for Santana. I am discouraged by the amount of older minor league journeyman pitchers that the Yanks parade through. I would like to see the Yanks build through the farm but I also like the additon of high end major components to win, instead of plugging in stop gap career minor leaguers. I think every give away game will come back and haunt the Yankees. I realize they will pay more in $$$ and prospects doing it that way but thats what it takes to win now sometimes”
I honestly think if there was a chance to get Santana without giving up Hughes, they would have without a doubt.
Unfortunately, as good as he looked, Kennedy didn’t have a lot of trade value, because he really isn’t a top tier talent. He’s probably a 4.00 ERA guy at best. Which, hey, gets $8-12M these days, but it’s a far cry from the elite talents.
Current potential top talents, IMO (obviously, some are better than others): Joba, Hughes, Kershaw, Volquez, Cueto, Buchholz, Miller (check out his year with the Marlins http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/.....08/1116708), among others. The last set included Hamels, Lincecum, Cain, etc.
You never know in advance who will pan out and who won’t, but these top tier talents are potentially the future Santana/Sabathia/Webb/Peavy/etc.’s, and you don’t ditch them for short-sighted rental trades. If you trade a top talent in order to win now… and you fail? Ouch. Heck, even if you win, it can come back to bite ya (Smoltz for Alexander).
I am absolutely not in favor of trying to win this year at all costs. Not in this year, not in any year.
The Yankees won 4 times in 5 years, and fans still weren’t satisfied. Fans will never be satisfied. Building a team that contend EVERY year is the goal, and I’m glad Cashman is doing that. I was very happy with the draft, and the minor league pitching depth is going to be an amazing part of the Yankees success over the next decade.
Yes, some of these guys have to be traded, and some will be busts, but all in all, I’m happy with where the Yankees are.
Here’s the vid of Pat Venditte:
HERE.
Note how the ESPN dweeb whines that this is “typical Yankees stuff.”
Ooops. Wrong link.
Try: HERE.
Amen, V.
Glad to see there are fans that get it.
http://espn.go.com/page2/s/lis.....deals.html
Worst deadline deals in baseball:
“Astros send Freddie Garcia, Carlos Guillen and John Halama to Mariners for Randy Johnson (July 31, 1998)”
This is exactly the type of deal I DON’T want the Yankees to make.
The Yankees’ untouchables are better talents than what the Astros sent.
So if Venditte ever needs TJ surgery, does he just switch arms?
I really hope this guy pitches when I go watch the SI Yanks this year.
Johan Santana got two, that’s right TWO pitches above 91 MPH in his last start.
He has been consistently under the 94-95 MPH he used to throw, as late as June of 2007.
He is still a very good pitcher. No longer a great pitcher. At least not this year pitching in an easier league. He’s not dominating anybody in the NL.
A blip on the radar or a sign he is beginning his decline? I don’t know.
I do know that if I shelled out 137 million dollars for a guy whose velocity is already down 5 % from last year, I would be worried.
The Yankees weren’t in the off-season, and aren’t now, one player away from winning a championship.
You don’t give up on young pitching simply because they have gotten out of the gate slowly in their careers.
Its not how you run a baseball organization.
If Hughes and/or Kennedy don’t make it, you still don’t change the philosophy.
You keep stockpiling young pitchers (which the Yankees are doing) and keep giving them a shot.
Just on sheer volume alone, you will find talent.
Is Venditte a starter in the future?
I know he just pitched the ninth last time.
Can he pitch righty one day and then come back the next day as a lefty?
Time for a four man rotation. Save money, and get an extra reliever.
Wow, this is neat: http://www.baseball-reference......rans.shtml
I’ve been looking for historical deadline deals of ‘ACE’ level pitchers in the last year of their contracts to see what it usually takes to land them.
Obviously, the Cone trade worked (although, that was a different Yankees’ team, who WERE in ‘WIN NOW AT ALL COSTS’, and again, didn’t give up much
).
Daryl Thompson, unknown AAA pitcher?
91-94 mph, a B curveball, a C slider and a B change-up.
“Is Venditte a starter in the future?
I know he just pitched the ninth last time.
Can he pitch righty one day and then come back the next day as a lefty?
Time for a four man rotation. Save money, and get an extra reliever.”
I think he’s just a reliever.
“When using his right arm, Venditte delivers over the top and can throw a curveball as well as a fastball reaching up to 91 mph. His left-handed delivery is side-armed in which he throws a slider and a relatively slower fastball.”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Venditte
I think he’ll end up being a lefty specialist who can get righties out.
How does every thread end in the same conversation on here? It just seems like some folks, the more you explain things in a logical manner to them, just want to dig in their heels more.
Thinking you’re “one player away” is like a dog chasing it’s own tail.
“I think he’ll end up being a lefty specialist who can get righties out.”
Granted, what I mean by that, is he’s probably capable of pitching two innings, and won’t have to be pulled because a tough lefty is coming in
Granted, he’s in Low A – any talk of the majors is WAY premature.
SJ44
I too have been keeping my eye on Johan’s velocity and surprisingly his lack of total dominance that he seems unable to create in what I agree is an inferior league.
I’m beginning to feel like Santana ordered the trade and extension, in process foregoing the usual bidding war for the mega dollars because he may have known that he was loosing his “edge” ??
Sure this is totally unfounded and pretty much speaking from my hindquarters, but if I were Johan Santana and felt like I was Johan Santana (The best pitcher in BaSeball yada yad ETC… Why would I not stick it out with the Twins and break the Bank A-Rod style in the 4 super payroll bidding wars that would’ve been inevitable?
“How does every thread end in the same conversation on here? It just seems like some folks, the more you explain things in a logical manner to them, just want to dig in their heels more.”
There’s always the randy l’s of the world, but I feel that often it’s different non-regulars that show up with the same old complaints, usually reinforced by sensationalist and/or ill-informed media outlets.
“Most famous player in the New York-Penn League. At least until someboldy starts throwing with their feet.”
Nice. Well done Mr. Peter Abraham.
Venditte just needs the right coaching and he will make it, better chance as a reliever than starter but the ability is there. Let’s see what happens, you never know with prospects
The Mets are screwed for a long time. They have no farm system aside from F-Mart and their major league team just can’t get anywhere. Santana or not, they suck
yes!
Matusi in the line-up
There were a lot of names the Mets were building up as top-notch talents that have either turned out to be average, at best, or traded away for Johan.
On the other hand, that farm system did produce Wright and Reyes.
V,
The idiot who called Hughes and Kennedy a bust is really not even worth responding to.
Somebody with that thought process is either an idiot or a troll trying to get a rise out of the blog.
If blogs existed when Greg Maddux was a rookie there would have been plenty of people labeling him a bust and wanting to trade him for whomever was the hot pitcher of the day.
Maddux wasn’t good at all his first full season (76 ERA+ in 155 IP’s) and now he’s a HOF.
who was that skinny failed starter for the Yanks back in ’95? really goofing looking kid. looked like nothing. Mariano something-or-other….
gargoyle
June 21st, 2008 at 11:10 am
ARod is somewhat quietly putting together what could be another great season. If he hadn’t missed 2 weeks he’d be leading the league in everything.
If there’s anyone here who’s still peddlin the ARod is a loser or a choker line please get a fu***** life.
….
Good post, and I think he missed 3 weeks.
Re: Santana, I think the second half of the year is going to tell us a lot.
He’s usually a great second half pitcher. He wasn’t last year. In fact, he hasn’t been the same pitcher since his 17 K game of a year ago.
Could be he’s just beginning to figure out how to pitch with a diminshed fastball. The guy is still very, very good.
However, his slider, which he abandoned for most of the second half of last year (and one reason why some folks in baseball thought he struggled) and was once a dominant pitch, hasn’t come back this year. He rarely throws it.
When he does, its flat and doesn’t have the same bite it used to have.
Watch Volquez last night. He was throwing 94-96, with an 82 MPH changeup. Same arm angle for both pitches. Nasty.
Just like Pedro and Santana in their heydays.
Now, Santana is throwing 91-92, on his “fast” days, and his change up, while still a GREAT pitch, is in the 82-83 range.
To me, not enough spread to scare off good hitters. If you miss, its hit hard.
Most of the NY media won’t talk about this stuff but, its worth discussing.
The Mets drained what was left of their farm system, gave him 137 million, and aren’t as good a team as they were a year ago.
As V and others have said, those are the type of deals you hope the Yankees continue to stay away from making.
Mainly because, if you guess wrong on the player, it takes years to fix the damage you do to your organization.
Go Giese!
Just hope the Yankees can give Giese decent run support
If we could get CC for a bunch of young arms and Melky I’d make the deal and possibly try to pick up Corey Patterson from the Reds to offset the defensive loss we’d take by loosing Melky.
The one park of a possible CC trade without the extension that I find particularly attractive is that without an automatic extension we’d have the opportunity to audition the big lad and see if he’s capable of handling the bright lights in the Bronx…
If we don’t think he’s getting the job done ala Jose Contreras/Javier Vazquez etc…
Then we let him walk and save the mega dollars it would take to sign him to an extension and in the end we could still minimize the damage of loosing 3 or 4 of the following I’d guess….
Kennedy?
A-Jax?
Horne?
Melky?
Brackman?
Melancon?
If we’d aquired Santana for Hughes and he got here throwing sub 92 every outing I’d be pretty angry.
To be honest I think the CC deal without an extension is more appealing than the Santana non trade.
If CC sucks in the post season again we let him go and we draft some 1st round talent with 2 picks.
And if we want we could sign Orlando Hudson while we groom another A Jax (if he were used as part of the package of course)
Ps. I agree the Mets emptied their already dismal farm system and now have suffered a great deal because of it. The difference is I think Cashman has done enough stock piling that he may be actually have the depth to let a few top guys go in the pursuit of aquiring a lefty ACE of which we currently have Zero.
Sorry Andy but you ain’t no spring chicken anymore.
“If we don’t think he’s getting the job done ala Jose Contreras/Javier Vazquez etc…”
If the Yankees never trade those two guys how much better does the pitching situation look right now?
Is the above one of the passes-by V mentioned?
You shouldn’t pay twice for C.C. Sabathia, unless we can pull off a steal, just like you didn’t pay twice for Johan Santana. Nothing has changed.
A Yankee team with Corey Patterson in CF and Orlando Hudson at 2B….I just have to shake my head.
Magnetic
I disagree. I don’t believe those two guys would be anything but mediocre pitching in the BRONX and that’s why they’re jettisoned.
It’s not a new concept that it takes a certain kind of make up to play for the Yankees.
Not everyone can handle it which is why Joba and Hughes are so special IMO.
Joba we know isn’t bothered in fact I believe he thrives on the attention and Hughes although he’s beginning to piss me off with all this injury $hit came into a playoff game without any warning and murdered the Indians.
There’s a lot to be said about those “intangibles” which is why I’d resist any deal that involved Hughes even today with a 2nd season in consecutive years being cut short by 3 months on the DL.
Sorry I made an error on the Orlando Hudson signing.
He’s not a CF.
My bad that was a Cano proposal that I’d heard about and got them mixed up.
And No I WOULD NOT TRADE CANO.
Hey Pete, Nice job on ESPN News
V great posts.. Guys Hughes and Kennedy should not be discussed in the same sentence.. Hughes is a much much better prospect, no comparison…
Kennedy to me could be traded for the right deal, Hughes is a whole other story.
Hughes is 21, 6 ft 4, etc… kennedy is 3 yrs older, smaller, does not throw as hard, lesser curveball…
Great point Ray—
Patience is not only needed with young arms, it’s needed with guys who first come to NYC. The Yanks gave up on Ted Lilly and paid too much for Jeff Weaver. Then they gave up on Weaver and paid too much for Kevin Brown… that was disastrous.
They also gave up on Vasquez (Randy Johnson) and Contreras (Estaban Loaiza) way too quickly.
Still you have to be able to identify the right prospects to move and when to move them. I say Hughes, Joba, Melancon and Robertson should be off limits… every one else worthy of consideration for an A-List starter in his prime.
Do people know that Cano’s defense is last I heard 4th in the league. O-Dog is very good but we have a 2B already. Oh and LOL on Corey Patterson another fillin scrub, Reds fans don’t even like him the only reason he’s on a roster is because Dusty Baker loves him and he’s just taking time away from players who probably are more productive than he will be. If I have to see that guy in the OF and Justin Christian or Brett Gardner are still in AAA I’m going to nuts, Corey is a human out .192/.227/.337 what else can I say
Hey, did anyone else order all star tickets through stubhub? Still waiting on mine.
Corey Patterson would just be nice player to have to pinch run if nothing else. I only mentioned him because from all I’ve been hearing lately Gardner is still not ready.
Trust me I don’t like Corey Patterson any more than most of you just needed a name that wouldn’t cost us much more in the way of prospects in the event that Gardner takes till 09 to be brought up.
Let’s go holland!!
Yu Brett is Rule 5 after next season for what Corey Patt. provides Brett can do better. It’s just a matter of when do they take the kid gloves off w/ him.
wasn’t Contreras an example of a guy who ended up not becoming what people thought he was going to be?
i was furious when they traded him, with my being Cuban-American, and what was obviouly a very emotional season and all for him. while he was certainly been a better pitcher than Loaiza on this team(remember HIS stint in pinstripes? yipes!), neither of those guys, plus Vazquez, are guys we should be crying too much about not having on this team right now.
Did Rebecca decide what she’ll be wearing at the game so we can recognizer her? Last I saw she was deciding between the red carnation, the clipboard, and the white tube top.
Does anyone know what is the status of the promotion during the all-star game of Ortiz depicting the Babe?
Where does this currently stand stand after the complaints from the Yankee front office and the injury to Ortiz?
“The idiot who called Hughes and Kennedy a bust is really not even worth responding to.”
Definitely too soon.
Not meeting expectation in their 1st year does not = bust
I am concerned about Hughes propensity for injury, but when healthy I think he’s still a potential high end of the rotation guy.
Never thought of Kennedy would ever be anything more than a 4/5 type, but I did think he could eat some innings for them. Still think he can do both in time.
Don’t fret about Brett, he will be on the 40 man roster before they have the Rule V draft.
God forbid the Yankees if they ever let him go or trade him, I think half of the fans would cry.
(All Star)
“Hey, did anyone else order all star tickets through stubhub? Still waiting on mine”
I’m a full-season ticket holder and just received mine yesterday. I’m guessing once the others get theirs, they can fill the StubHub orders and you’ll have yours by early next week.
I probably should have sold my All-Star tickets, as I just settled on my seat location for the new Stadium and will be shelling out 3X what I’m paying now.
“Does anyone know what is the status of the promotion during the all-star game of Ortiz depicting the Babe?”
It would appear indifference is ruling the day.
“Where does this currently stand stand after the complaints from the Yankee front office and the injury to Ortiz?”
Pretty sure people still think the Yankees front office acted child-like about something they have no say over(and should have no say over).
“I disagree. I don’t believe those two guys would be anything but mediocre pitching in the BRONX and that’s why they’re jettisoned.
It’s not a new concept that it takes a certain kind of make up to play for the Yankees.”
Sorry but I don’t believe that players suddenly forget how to play when they come to NY. I think Vasquez and Contreras were given up on too soon. I’m pretty sure Chicago isn’t exactly soft when it comes to media coverage.
“neither of those guys, plus Vazquez, are guys we should be crying too much about not having on this team right now.”
I’m definitely not crying about them. But would you rather have Vasquez or Contreras pitching today or Dan Giese?
Jesus …Jolbert’s finger was dislocated so badly that it went through the skin
“Jesus …Jolbert’s finger was dislocated so badly that it went through the skin”
That SS position in Cincy is cursed. That 3 or 4 who have gone down to injury.
“I think Vasquez and Contreras were given up on too soon. I’m pretty sure Chicago isn’t exactly soft when it comes to media coverage”
The 5 walk Game 7 effort in 2004 sold me on Vazquez not being ready for baseball’s biggest stage. Wonder whether the Chitown media focuses as hard on the White Sox as they do the Cubbies????
Speaking of the Cubbies, Big Z placed on the 15-day DL
Anybody want a look at the future 3rd times the Charm Japanese Import??
This is my boy Yu Darvish and he’s 6 yrs younger and caries with him a much higher cieling than the “GREAT DICE K”
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqul1GyK7-g
PS…This guy wont cost Phil Hughes, Melky, or even Kei Igawa.
Problem is if Dice K is the precedent than I’d assume this dude would cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 100plus million with posting fee and contract are all summed up.
It’s fun to dream i guess.
“Problem is if Dice K is the precedent than I’d assume this dude would cost somewhere in the neighborhood of 100plus million with posting fee and contract are all summed up.
It’s fun to dream i guess.”
$51.1 Million was the posting fee for Matsuzaka. I’d guess you’re looking at $60M to $70M for this kid.
When David Cone and John Flatherty agreed we/ what I said last night about IBB Bruce and choking on a pitch to Jolbert in location, yeh I still know I was right.
Brandon,
When Kay starts agreeing you with you, that’s when it’s time to worry!
mel when Coney and Flatherty agree first I don’t 2nd guess it.
jesus anybody see that Ruth award
Not every mistake pitch or failure is a choke. I assumed people were aware of that, but, maybe not.
Fredo
I suppose objecting to Ortiz repilicating Ruth’s feat during the celebration is childish.
Considering Yankee Alex Rodriquez was passed over is the reiging hr king and it is in Yankee stadium.
Maybe honoring Yogi at the last all-star game in Fenway would have been in good taste too.
They showed the Venditte clip on Sportscenter and it was the last topic on Around the Horn yesterday.
Suzyn Waldman just said that the Reds’ starting pitcher had his “entire future ahead of him.”
What is the alternative?
When a Yankee announcer goes against the party line, it will be a first.
I don’t think Kay, Flash and Cone, 3 friends (as well as co-workers) of Girardi are going to second guess him on the air.
It was a dumb move with a predictable result.
Mike Mussina isn’t a 22 year old kid you have to coddle through games. One could make an argument he has been one of the 4 best pitchers in the AL so far this year. To me, that cuts him some slack on what to do on the mound.
At worse, Girardi should have gone out there and asked Moose what he felt more comfortable in doing, pitching to Bruce or Cabrera.
That was my problem with the move. It was overmanaging and Girardi has a habit of doing that at times.
Its water under the bridge now. Hopefully though, Joe cools it with the IBB. Its not the NL. The more guys you put on base in games with a DH, the chances for runs being scored increases.
Especially in a 1-1 game.
Nice start!!
Wow, that was a nice start.
I’m going to reserve my Dan Giese comment for later.
God, Damon is awful for the environment.
is Damon trying to beat Rivera’s record
I hope he has stock in a timber company
I wasn’t a fan then, but I’ve seen footage of Rivera vs. Klesko in 1999. That was carnage.
Jetes loves that GIDP
Jeter is still stinking it up with the bat. Honestly I’m more concern with him than with Abreu.
why does Michael Kay not know how to correctly use the word ‘ironic’ ever?
Back to work Giese
Does Jeter lead all major leaguers in hit into DPs? I would be shocked if he didn’t. If Damon doesn’t hit a double or steal 2nd on the 1st pitch then he should just make out on the 1st pitch of the game because captain unclutch will always erase him on the DP. Pathetic at bats by Jeter. Either he broke a bone in his hand when he got hit by Cabrera or he is just having an awful year.
That was Jeter’s 9th GDP, which ties him for 29th in the MLB I see here. http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/leagu.....Frame=2008
Giese doing a good job so far. Hope he keeps it up the second time through the line-up.
Well, two innings into this start, he’s exceeded my expectations.
Kill the rook.
Alex always seems to whiff at fastballs early in the game. It’s really odd.
Uhhhhhh.
One of Babe Ruth’s grandsons is totally ripped.
He looked kinda strange.
And Alex comes back to smack a double.
that was an offspeed he hit but it was down the middle.
Nice Alex. Now they just have to get him home
Don’t diss Giese Michael. It could be Sir Sidney.
Wow nie hustle Matsui
Votto is a slick fielder.
And a rookie mistake by Thompson.
what bad knee???
Thompson w/ a rookie mistake, kid you always cover 1B
I hope Giambi is wearing his thong today
Good afternoon, all.
Nice “rookie pitcher moment” there for the Yanks to benefit from.
How about this stat.
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/histo.....ByStat=GDP
Pudge leads active baseball in GIDP. Jeter and A-Rod are 23, 24 on the list.
All time? It’s Ripken.
http://mlb.mlb.com/stats/histo.....ByStat=GDP
c’mon giambi! use the power of the stache!
I’d always heard Votto was all bat and no glove. From what I’ve seen, he’s well above-average in the field, and has very good range.
I go on vacation for a week and the Yanks go on a 7 game winning streak.
TYPICAL!
But I still love it.
Let’s not let him go Joba on us, okay boys?
Bases loaded with no outs. I don’t see this kid pulling a Joba and getting out of the jam with no damage.
Dr. Cox,
The Yankees (or the LH Blog) needs to pay for another vacation.
Safari? South Pole expedition?
g’afternoon, Wolf.
Votto seems like the exact 1B that the yanks need to play 1B for the next 10 years.
mel:
I would take offense to that but you may be on to something. I went to Europe last summer after the all-star break and well… we all know what the Yanks did then.
I sometimes think I am the mush. haha.
I don’t see the Reds letting cheap talent like Votto go.
Ugh. Bad Jorge.
my god Robi are you f….n kidding me !
Well, they did draft Yonder Alonso at 1B this year. What do you with both of them in a couple of years? One’s bound to be a trade chip.
Anybody know if Alonso agreed to terms with the Reds?
Robby Cano – at least not a dp…
bases loaded and now we have 2 outs … tell me we are not gonna do something here!! Cano swung at the first pitch and now we got melky- Come on Melk man!
Bases loaded with no outs without any runs scored is simply unacceptable.
Inning over with the terrible Melk up
“Bases loaded with no outs. I don’t see this kid pulling a Joba and getting out of the jam with no damage.”
Wolf, you’re killin us!
This is annoyingly familiar.
Ugh
Melky is soooo bad. When is it Brett Gardners turn?
What a pathetic job by the Yanks. Bases loaded – no outs and they don’t score. Not even a sac fly. They just let the momentum swing to Cincinnati.
Good lord. We just gave him three gifts in a row.
omfg are u serious no runs
I cannot wait til the Melky era is over.
what a let down to not score
Definitely trade Cano if a good deal comes up for Sabbathia or Burnett or Bedard.
He is a complete moron at the plate sometimes.
That’s utterly pathetic.
It’s moments like that that bring back doubts of whether this is a playoff bound team.
Yeah, sorry about that TurnTwo.
D’oh!
I can’t watch the game but assume cano used his brAIN FOR A CHANGE.. ALWAYS TRYING TO BE A HERO, BUT NEVER SUCCEEDING.
BASES LOADED NO OUTS AND they get nothing they SUCKwith RISP..
NO friggin excuses..
JOKE
I hope the Yankees know how bad they looked that inning.
Do they want A-Rod to do EVERYTHING himself??
Watching this inning makes me wonder for all the talk about the yankees patience, I wonder if the top of the lineup averages seeing more pitches than the middle or end. My guess is 3 and 4 sees more than any combo in this lineup.
does cano ever take a first pitch?
they need to not do that again
I’ll be okay with trading Cano for pitching…if we can get a player with near his offensive and defensive capability. Problem is that those guys don’t grow on trees.
Sigh.
No comment ‘cept get ‘em next time.
“Considering Yankee Alex Rodriquez was passed over is the reiging hr king and it is in Yankee stadium.
Maybe honoring Yogi at the last all-star game in Fenway would have been in good taste too.”
RiB:
The pre game ceremonies are something the Yankees can, and should have some control over. A promotion by Major League Baseball is not. This is NOT the Yankees’ All-Star Game and they should have zero control over how it’s promoted.
BTW, Arod refuses to participate in the Homerun Derby, thus eliminating him from being part of the promotion.
Don’t let Corey Patterson hurt you. It might make me cry. You don’t want me to cry, do you, Dan?
Brandon, i think you hit it the nail right on the head… the bottom of the lineup seems to stray away from the patience mantra much more quickly than the vets at the top.
I’ll replace Cano with someone who is defensive and with half a brain at the plate.
Any other 2B in baseball puts the ball in play during that at bat.
When is he going to get a clue? I’ve always supported him but that is pathetic. That’s the breaking point for me.
Um…so I guess Cano is never going to be spoken to??!! Too bad the Yanks do not have Bobby Cox as a manager. Then Cano would of learned extremely fast how to be a real major leaguer. It is just a joke how they let him continue to spiral down..Let him do that in AAA.
Did that all look as bad as it sounded on the radio?
Glad to see the anti-Melky/Robbie crowd showed up on cue. I may actually dislike them as much as dislike the “we should have traded for Santana” crowd. thanks for coming, guys.
Um, I think YES just forgot how many outs there were.
giese looks good tho which is nice
What do you think guys? Are we at the start of a seven game losing streak? You know how this team loves to be at the .500 level.
Cano and Melky are entirely different offensive profiles. Melky has proven nothing except that he’s streaky as hell and has occasional pop. Cano, this year notwithstanding, has been one of the best middle infielders in baseball. You don’t give up on him for having a crappy 1st half.
TurnTwo what freaks me out is the top of the lineup is doing the same thing right now the part of the lineup that makes a pitcher work more in this lineup seems to me all season it’s the 3 and 4 spot, 1 and are close, 5 and 6 are what they are, 7 8 9 (I haven’t had faith in that part of the lineup since Chuck Knoblauch was here)
I am really likin Geise so far.
wow 29 pitches for 3 innings. I think cano will snap out of it. I just wonder what made him slump…is it the loss of Bowa, is it bad conditioning, is it injury, is it pressure?
yeah they are sending Cano to AAA.
are you kidding or that stupid???
Giese is doing his job, time for the offense to do theirs
“does cano ever take a first pitch?”
Yes. He’d actually been pretty good about it lately.
1 and 2 *
giese is nice
E or maybe Cano is just a MORON..always trying to do to much, baseball that is a formula for failure…
I like this Giese. Doesn’t fall apart like the vets do when they fail to take gifts.
29 pitches through 3.
47 through 2 for Thompson.
That was a truely unbelievable half inning by the Yankees. Cincy pitcher Thompson is wild for the first three batters and then Jorge strikes out on 4 pitches, Cano pops out on the first pitch, and then Melky strikes out on 3 pitches. Oh yeah, and not even one run!
I hope this isn’t the beginning of a losing streak to go along with our great winning streak. Those types of innings really worry me.
“Glad to see the anti-Melky/Robbie crowd showed up on cue. I may actually dislike them as much as dislike the “we should have traded for Santana†crowd. thanks for coming, guys.”
Actually I was against the Santana trade from the beginning as you can see 7-5 in the NL
Melky sucks though. Always has, always will. Cano has talent, and no backup. Melky is easily replacable
“is it the loss of Bowa, is it bad conditioning, is it injury, is it pressure?”
Conditioning? Injury? What? He made that poor play yesterday, but he’s actually been pretty outstanding on D this season. So he’s plenty agile and mobile. It’s gotta be in his head. He’s swinging at bad pitches and not taking pitches on the outer half the other way.
Cano’s peripheral stats indicate that:
A) The balls he puts in play are going for grounders, flyballs, and line drives at the same rate as he has his whole career
B) His approach is as ugly as ever
C) His luck has been terrible
D) There’s no reason he won’t eventually come out of it, and tear MLB pitchers a new one during the 2nd half.
People complain about Cano, but say nothing about the two that struck out on three pitches each or the one that hit into the double play. Go figure.
See, there…with the way this kid’s been walking guys, Robbie swinging early really kills me. Almost as much as Posada’s strikeout. He knows better.
Leadoff walk. Play it again, Sam.
Hey, they don’t look dead!
Jeter is soo overrated. Probably the most overrated in the MLB
hahaha
cuz he always swings at the first pitch
thank god the first half of the order knows how to get on base
The only reason this inning won’t develop exactly the same as the last is because A-Rod will have a chance…
Hitting streaks are nice, but he’s getting like one single a day, which is hardly impressive. His lack of power has been somewhat alarming. Jose Molina has more doubles than him in fewer ABs.
Thank god 1 and 2 w/ 3 and 4 coming up
Bowa said he thinks the contract is pressuring Cano to do well, [which of course inevitably led to Cano not doing well.]
So I guess the GIDP rants only come on GIDPs.
I don’t think Adam Dunn can ever be called “graceful.”
And Bobby needs to be dropped in the lineup. Put Matsui in the three hole.
Ugh. The lame pop-ups bug me worse than the GIDP’s.
Come on Alex, get things going!
Yes, Ron…..Melky Cabrera has shown absolutely nothing at the major league level. How many outfield assists did he have last year? How many runs does he save patrolling CF out there? When no one was hitting earlier this year, who led the team in home runs?
Melky and Robbie swing too early and too often. They’ll make the occasional blunder. They’re also a breath of fresh air on a team that often doesn’t seem to register a pulse with their “businesslike” manner. They also manage to come through a hell of a lot.
Brett Gardner would be so much better than Melky. If he batted 9th and got on base, he can steal bases and get in scoring position for the top of the order where Melky cannot unless he plays the Padres every day
“People complain about Cano, but say nothing about the two that struck out on three pitches each or the one that hit into the double play. Go figure.”
problem is, Cano is turning into a pattern. we all know he’s better than this, but you wonder when he’s gonna finally snap out of it. very frustrating.
Tim, funny story. I heard Jeter finished first when players voted on who was the most overrated player in baseball. Him and A-rod were in teh top 3. Funny that they were 1 and 2 on a separate vote between players on who you would build a team around. Michael Kay said everyone is jealous.
“Brett Gardner would be so much better than Melky.”
we still playing the drinking game from last night?
if so, DRINK!
Melky has what 1 outfield assist this year?
1 run….please…
I’m not saying Brett Gardner would be all that much better. But the fact remains, Melky has proven nothing except that he is a very good fourth outfielder. But he’s playing every game. I’m starting to wonder if he’ll ever hit enough to deserve a starting spot. His defense is stellar, especially compared to old Bernie and old Damon. But his bat is quite weak.
“Quite weak” also describes the ABs by our 3-4 hitters.
please don’t tell me we’re going to strand 5 runners in 2 innings
Cone likes saying *Dick Pole*
“Did that all look as bad as it sounded on the radio?
Glad to see the anti-Melky/Robbie crowd showed up on cue. I may actually dislike them as much as dislike the “we should have traded for Santana†crowd. thanks for coming, guys.”
Totally agreed.
I wish these idiots would shut up.
Since being benched for a day in Houston, counting his pinch hit appearance, he’s been batting .444.
Do you idiots even WATCH THE GAMES?
can we get a stinking run??
This is crap. You know Giese can only keep it going for so long.
OK Is this pitcher really that good that he can get himself outta trouble or are our hitters just not getting the bat on the ball like they need to??
and I guess the answer was no.
Back to work Giese
“Brett Gardner would be so much better than Melky. If he batted 9th and got on base, he can steal bases and get in scoring position for the top of the order where Melky cannot unless he plays the Padres every day”
Brett Gardner stinks.
He’s worse in AAA than Melky was.
He’s been a worse player, at older ages, than Melky every step of his career.
I see we have returned to that horrible place where we don’t get hits when we have men in scoring position. I thought those days were gone. Guess not.
we still playing the drinking game from last night?
if so, DRINK!
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How is Melky doing this season?
This is starting to get me sick. The Alex AB was a good AB, the Abreu AB sucked, the Matsui AB was a bad AB, we’re putting bad AB vs a rookie w/ RISP. With 1 pitch swinging Robi and inconsitant Melky this is not a good thing.
I’m “watching” on Gameday(Thanks FOX). Is this pitcher for the Reds any good or have the Yanks simply reverted back to strand as many guys as we can mode?
I love Melky, but is it time to give Gardner a shot at CF?
“please don’t tell me we’re going to strand 5 runners in 2 innings ”
We’re going to strand 5 runners in 2 innings.
Im leaving. The Yankees actually do well when im not around.
Melky has 1 outfield assist because brain surgeon no one runs on him because he has a good arm..
use your brain…..
Man, ARod and Posada really suck. They should be benched.
(sarcasm).
It doesn’t make someone an idiot to realize that Cano made an absolutely horrid mistake and has been making the same mistake repeatedly for the entire season.
It was ok with 30 games in.
It’s not ok 70+ in. It just isn’t.
We’re not idiots. Cano is the idiot. How do you swing at the first pitch in that situation? Especially where it was located.
Pathetic.
Good god this is SO frustrating. How many more times are we gonna let this guy off the hook?!?!
Laura – I thought they were past that too. There is just no excuse for not scoring even 1 run with the bases loaded and no one out.
Giese showing he belongs
Melky is a 4th outfielder. At least Gardner would be getting in scoring position with ease
“I’m “watching†on Gameday(Thanks FOX). Is this pitcher for the Reds any good or have the Yanks simply reverted back to strand as many guys as we can mode?”
He’s got good stuff. Check out his minor league numbers. He doesn’t walk that many.
“I’m “watching†on Gameday(Thanks FOX). Is this pitcher for the Reds any good or have the Yanks simply reverted back to strand as many guys as we can mode?”
He’s got good stuff. Check out his minor league numbers. He doesn’t walk that many.
One thing I know about Gardner is he makes the pitcher work, something Melky and Robi have gotten away from doing, when your 7 and 8 is seeing 4 pitches w/ RISP that is never a good thing.
So you think on some Reds blog right now they’re moaning:
Dan Giese???? We can’t hit Dan Giese??? lol
Giese is dominating. What are the odds of that?
“Giese showing he belongs
Melky is a 4th outfielder. At least Gardner would be getting in scoring position with ease”
Gardner stinks. If Melky is a 4th outfielder, he’s a 5th outfielder.
Come on, Yanks, put a 3 spot on the board so these morons will go away.
Every time Cano and Melky come up to bat I miss Bowa more and more.
Melky has 1 outfield assist because brain surgeon no one runs on him because he has a good arm..
use your brain…..
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No runs have ever scored when a ball has been hit into CF? Use your brain. TWICE we lost a game because of Melkys wild throw to home. He throws it and it tails off towards 3rd base. TWICE in the 9th inning we lost a game because of him. So if he cant throw people out, then why isnt Gardner playing?
“How is Melky doing this season?”
better than Brett Garnder, at the highest level of the game.
geise is one cool cucumber.
That middle of the order…..can’t get runners home. We should trade all of them.
I’m tellin’ ya, the trick with these 30-something journeymen id having them on your team when they catch that lightning in a bottle…..maybe this is Giese’s 15 minutes.
Bob:
You bet. At least Daryl Hamilton has good stuff.
What’s wrong with the Yankees? They should have 15 runs by now and the Reds should have -5.
Sorry, that’s Daryl Thompson.
Hi V. You know that saying today is the tomorrow you worried about yesterday? That says it all about some of these posters. Talk about overreacting to everything and anything!
You just need to learn to ignore them as much as you can. I’m learning that people who are obsessive here are obsessive in other parts of life. In other words. They really can’t help it.
I read Rebecca’s at the game. Funny I had seats right behind home plate once and hated them. I think it’s the net thing that drove me crazy. I paid a lot for them too.
Double off of Giese-Off with his head!
Flash, I normally agree with you, but Adam Dunn can make it 3-0 by accident.
“What’s wrong with the Yankees? They should have 15 runs by now and the Reds should have -5.”
That’s what some of these morons sound like
With RISP today:
Abreu: 0/1
ARod: 0/1
Matsui: 0/1
Posada: 0/1
Cano: 0/1
Melky: 0/1
But, of course, it’s Cano and Melky’s fault they haven’t scored.
Wow. That’s all I’ve got to say.
Giese continuing to pitch well through 4.
Oh don’t get on them Nick, they’re being obliging.
They wanted to make sure there was something for people here to complain about.
Good lord, Brett Gardner is 3 for his last 40 in AAA.
He’s not better than Melky.
Where do folks come up with this stuff?
If you bother watching the this team, when they stop hitting, they do it in bunches. Its not just one guy.
If you take Cano and Melky out of the lineup, they have exactly ZERO plus defenders on the field.
As bad as both can be offensively, neither guy has taken it to the field with them this season.
Stop the nonsense of believing Brett Gardner is an upgrade to Melky. He’s not. Not offensively and not defensively.
Please get him some runs!!
OK, Giese is pitching great and deserves better than this from the offense. Let’s get him some runs!!!
V – I think I flamed you a few months ago. Please accept my apology. It’ll never happen again.
Where can I be one of these crystal ball time machine things that tells you that Brett Gardner will take major league pitching deep into the count. I need one to tell me I can bang Megan Fox without my wife finding out.
BIG TIME!!!
Hey I read all the craziness about Giese yesterday. Yankee fans actually had the game lost.
Is there something wrong with your heads? I don’t get it.
I think the reality is that Austin Jackson can’t get here soon enough.
Good afternoon folks!
Giese pitching well…GO YANKS!
Quick question:
When is the last time the Yankees beat the Reds at Yankee Stadium?
Anyone know?
Raise your hand if you saw Giese going 4 shutout innings today?
Anyone?
Orlando Hudson? UGH
he cannot hit. Be careful when discussing trades involving National League pitchers or players. There is a very large exchange rate when players come to the AL.
I would say it could be 50-60 points on the batting average and maybe a run and a 1/2 on pitchers ERA.
all we can hope for is this kid stops getting lucky and we will score something fierce on him!
SJ can Melky and Robi see more than 4 pitches in that inning it’s so f’n frustrating to see that.
Giese is at 42 pitches-me like
Get the man some run support!
Somebody is bound to crush this guys fastball!
My wild prediction is that Daryl Thomatocan will have a higher ERA than Dan Giese by the end of this game. Maybe even the end of this inning!
I was thinking 4.1 IP, 7 H, 4 ER or so. This has been spectacular.
Giambino with the nice lead off hit. C’mon guys – we have been on base 3 innings in a row now – We gotta score. Let’s give Geise some wiggle room please!
I can see why people defend Robbie, but Melky? He is grade F garbage. What do you see in him?
Leadoff batter on again.
melkys defense is great, but his 250ishe batting average concerns me
What the heck Jorge?
Bob I can’t raise my hand since I didn’t know. But I wasn’t too worried about it. I can raise my hand on that one.
Here’s a thought. Instead of getting all over the Yankee hitters how about Thompson’s pitching a good game? Bucholz pitcher a no hitter his first major league game.
Cano just took the first pitch.
Everyone take a shot!
NEWSFLASH: Robinson Cano just took a fastball for a strike.
Two piches in a row!!!
Tequiiiiiillllaaaaaa!
Melky’s defense is great. Maybe he’s in a sophomore slump or something with the bat.
auurgh @ 1st pitch swinging vs a guy who has thrown nearly 70 pitches through 3…
“Orlando Hudson? UGH. he cannot hit.”
he averaged right around .270 for his first 4 years in Toronto. considering the value he brings with his glove, seems like he can hit well enough for me.
Let’s admit it, Melky is who he is. Live with it. He will never be a superstar. He will hit .250-.270. Gardner is a prospect but not an answer to all the offensive problems.
come on Cano-show us something good here
Grade F Garbage?
Oh. My. God.
Anyone else find Cone a mini Schilling? Guy is boring and bragging.
The problem with the Bucholtz analogy is that Thompson surrendered 4 hits and 3 walks in 3.1 innings. That’s just bad.
Tim,
More than we see in Brett Gardner and I’ve seen Brett Gardner play as much or more than anybody on this blog.
Melky isn’t “garbage”. If you think he is, its probably best you learn some baseball before posting.
Folks on this blog who do know baseball, will eat you for lunch with childish comments like that. lol
I hope we can score a run-just so that some people stop spewing nonsense for a second or 2
I like Coney. He’s not Kaat, but he’s pretty good.
Coney and Leiter are two of the better analysts out there. I’d probably only put Hershiser ahead of them in terms of pitchers-turned-broadcasters.
If Cano works a walk here i’m taking the beer bong out.
Nice AB by Robbie
hahaha S.A.
I miss Bowa too. He was a great mentor for the young guys.
Of all of the decisions surrounding the Girardi hiring, the one that annoyed me the most was him choosing Meacham as a coach. I just didn’t understand that one at all.
S.A. I’ve been around here a while. There is NO way people will ever stop spewing nonsense. They will ALWAYS find something to complain about.
Anybody want to rip Cano now? He made an out?
Does it look to you guys like Robbie is hitting off of his front foot again? No power behind that ball at all.
where was that type of an AB w/ basesloaded Robi ? That was a good AB where was it in the 2nd inning
That was a nice at bat by Cano
We are certainly not being clutch today.
(DYNASTY IS DESTINY)
“When is the last time the Yankees beat the Reds at Yankee Stadium?”
1961 World Series.
Next inning. They’ll get him. I think.
lol mark-I can see that. Even when things are going good, someone will complain about something.
As for Melky 3 pitch AB again. Jesus we’re one mistake away from losing two in a row.
That Votto guy has got some skills.
S.A.
people could complain about your tedious inane posts.
Dunn homers this inning I got a feeling.
That’s the Jose Contreras I know
is anyone else completely sick of melky. we might as well deal with cano bc there is no temp replacement, but does anyone feel gardner deserves a shot, especially when looking at melkys career line (not very good)
Many could say the same about yours Vrsce dear
Brandon what if Thompson is just a great pitcher? Gonna blame the Yankees for that?
I think they’ll (the Yankees) break through at some point. Giese has been pitching just as good.
Derek Jeter has hit safely in 10 consecutive games.
Is anyone keeping count of how many men they have left on base so far?
Actually nevermind, I’m not even sure I wanna know…
also, while neither Melky or Robbie is “garbage” (cmon thats just ridiculous) both of their levels of play have depreciated GREATLY without Bowa. As I’ve said before the Yankees need to throw all the money in the world at him in the offseason to return next year. If theyre willing to give Kevin Long a huge salary then Bowa deserves one too. He’s just as helpful.
“melkys defense is great, but his 250ishe batting average concerns me”
His .310 OBP concerns me more. He’s got decent speed, and you don’t always expect a lot of power from your CFer, but he’s neither getting on base nor driving the ball. You need SOME offensive contribution from your CFer. Maybe if he was INCREDIBLE with the glove, and I mean Torii Hunter in his prime-level, then you could deal with the sub-.700 OPS. But…
Perhaps, but I do not inflict them upon the populous as often, very very often, as you.
Jose Contreras has managed to turn a 4-1 lead into a 9-4 deficit, if anyone cares.
Im not playing the Gardner/Melky drinking game today. Too many tools here on Saturdays. I would have been paralytic already.
I greatly enjoy Coney’s wooden, cue-card presence on whatever they’re calling “Kids on Deck” now. Great unintentional “i never thought i’d be doing this ten years ago” comedy.
In other news, the Yanks just shot Sidney Ponson in the leg.
That Votto guy has got some skills.
selected 2nd Round (44th overall) in 07′
“As I’ve said before the Yankees need to throw all the money in the world at him in the offseason to return next year. If theyre willing to give Kevin Long a huge salary then Bowa deserves one too. He’s just as helpful.”
Bowa didn’t want to stay. He wanted to follow Torre. What can you do? You can’t force people to work for you.
From BaseballHq.com:
Melky Cabrera
Latest Player Analysis :
6/20/2008 – BPIs question Cabrera’s HR pace … Going into 2008, Melky Cabrera (OF, NYY) was getting a rep for solid BA ability that lacked authority. As we head towards late June, he appears to have turned the tables. Through Wednesday’s action, he is hitting only .254, but has 7 HRs in 244 AB (he hit 8 in 545 AB in 2007). Now a fixture in CF in New York, just what is going on?
Year AB BA xBA bb% ct% Eye OPS PX SX
==== === ==== ==== === === ==== ==== === ===
2006* 582 .301 .279 10 89 0.98 .795 73 99
2007 545 .273 .287 7 88 0.63 .717 71 112
2008 244 .254 .262 8 86 0.62 .690 78 49
*includes MLE
Well, not a power surge, according to the 78 PX. A deeper look reveals that of Cabrera’s 62 hits, only 16 have gone for extra bases (26%, a similar percentage to 2007′s 27%). His FB% is up to 37% (from 29% in 2007) but without the PX to support it, his HR pace will very likely diminish. Plate skills are relatively stable, but the rise in FB has taken a bite of his xBA. And, troubling for a 23-year-old player with previous SX levels around 100, Cabrera’s speed skills have dried up (only 3 steals in 4 attempts so far). The upshot is that Cabrera’s still very young. His skill set has not collapsed, but so far is not showing growth, either. Until his PX provides some backbone for his fly balls, Cabrera’s HR spike will not be sustainable.
Any comments on this?
Giese, you are da man!
neither player is garbage and there is plenty of hope for cano as he plays great in 2nd halves, but looking at melkys line and the fact that we have a versatile cfer who offers a LOT more offensively, idk why were not giving gardner the shot
Jose Contreras has managed to turn a 4-1 lead into a 9-4 deficit, if anyone cares.
I still get sick thinking about that loser having a World Series ring.
Both teams are unfamiliar with the pitchers they are facing. Hopwever, Giese is throwing a lot fewer pitches. It’s up to the Yankee battres now to adjust after seeing the kid pitch for a few innings and take advantage before he’s pulled from the game.
I’m still reserving my Dan Giese comment till later
MINE!
“Perhaps, but I do not inflict them upon the populous as often, very very often, as you.”
Oh no, trust me hon. You do.
Have a nice day.
“but does anyone feel gardner deserves a shot, especially when looking at melkys career line (not very good)”
No. Gardner’s older and hasn’t shown that much in AAA beyond speed. If he was hitting .320 with a .420 OBP, maybe I’d agree. But he’s not. And he’s in a slump right now to boot.
Fantastic effort from Guise… five scoreless! Maybe we sholdn’t get the leadoff manon base this inning… hasn’t helped much so far!
Without fueling the vultures too much, I can go along with this “Melky and Robbie need Larry Bowa back” theory.
Dan Giese should be all of our heroes.
Just for the fact that hopefully this keeps them from bringing up Ponson.
Rick:
I think it’s more good evidence he’s a fine fourth outfielder, but seriously stretched as an everyday centerfielder.
Who is Dan Giese and what is he doing wearing Whitey Ford’s uniform today?
Brett Gardner is currently 3 for his last 40 in AAA.
Do you really think now is the time to call him up?
As soon as he goes 0-10 here, the same folks pining for Gardner will be ripping him.
Just think for a second before you post. Not everybody in AAA is the ready made solution to guys who are struggling offensively.
We all thought Shelley Duncan was going to hit because he was crushing the ball in AAA, correct? How did that work out?
Two days ago, Melky’s aggressive baserunning helped the Yankees win a game. Have we forgotten that already?
Five shutout innings and 54 pitches for Giese. Can’t ask for more than that.
The Yanks are now going to see Thompson for the 3rd time. They should be able to make their adjustments by now. Hopefully they can give Geise some run support.
I think Giese mugged Aaron Small and stole his pixy dust.
Okay, your cutting and pasting skillz are “teh superb”, Rick.
“Just for the fact that hopefully this keeps them from bringing up Ponson.”
I think we will be seeing him anyway for that Mets doubleheader.
True, whozat, but money speaks louder than anything. Perhaps if the Yankees sweeten the pot and offer enough of it, he will reconsider. Especially if LA doesn’t do anything this year, maybe. But they at least have to try because his absence is felt on so many levels.
I think it was 2 years ago that I felt like the Yankees had the best coaching staff in baseball by a country mile…I’d like to see that become true again.
Maybe Torii Hunter wasn’t the player he is today when he was in his first full season in the majors.
I have a feeling Melky may be ahead of where Torii was when he first started. I saw Melky’s number one web gem the other night and thanked our lucky stars we have him. I think his defense is pretty damn great. Defense counts for a lot. I think he’ll come out of his slump. You don’t just forget how to hit.
Enough with these pop ups!
whozat gardners line = 293 .410 .442 852
sure its in aaa but thats what u base callups on. and if these r slumping nmbers like u say im taking them. he also has 25 steals already and is only 24 so age isnt a real big factor
Why are all of you so concerned about the negative nancies?
There are two types of negative posters here.
a.trolls
b.fans who are emotional and reactionary.
There are too many police bloggers in here. The fans that fall as b fans. Let them talk all they want. Just skip their post. Im one that usually think possitive. But there are times that i would like to bash a players performance. I wouldnt want to have posters make me look like im less of a fan for doing so. We all get in that mood at times. Even sj. Ease up fellas.
I don’t like to do this but I’ll call this the inning Yanks score. If I’m wrong then I’ll just say I was “x” innings off!
“Just for the fact that hopefully this keeps them from bringing up Ponson.â€
I think we will be seeing him anyway for that Mets doubleheader.
OK, anyone here living in Scranton, stake out the local bars, and pick a fight with him so he gets kicked off the team. lol
Can we get the Padres to come back?
I’m waiting for the daily “let’s trade for Ichiro and put him in CF” comment.
*releases grenade*
That thunking sound you hear is Kevin Towers smacking his head against his desk as Edmonds goes deep for the second time in the inning.
Oops didn’t see 2 outs.
There is no excuse for not touching this guy, he is not Cy Young yes he sits 91-94 mph but 2 bad innings w/ a combo of 5 bad AB w/ the basesloaded is why he’s not getting hit.
“Five shutout innings and 54 pitches for Giese. Can’t ask for more than that.”
That makes me think of this exchange from the Simpsons:
Homer: Mr. Burns, you’re the richest guy I know.
Mr. Burns: Ah yes, but I’d trade it all for a little more.
Yikes!! The Cubs just scored nine off of the White Sox. I guess I should stop complaining about our game. It could be worse!
95 pitches – get this little brat out of the game!
God, Coney LOVES saying “Dick Pole.”
HIT THIS FOOL !
They offered Bowa more money. He turned it down.
He wanted to go with Torre to LA. Can’t fault him for that. He and Torre have gotten very close the last couple of years and coaches like to work with managers they are comfortable working with.
I don’t think the Bowa angle has anything to do with their struggles. Coaches come and go. Its up to the players to work through it.
If both guys weren’t playing hard and were taking their offensive struggles to the field, then I would put more credence into the theory.
However, when both guys are playing hard and playing great defense, and are struggling offensively, its hard for me to buy they would hit better if Larry Bowa was in the dugout.
Our luck the last two days has been “teh suck.”
At least the middle relief is coming in after. Hopefully, someone can hit him
wow
1 pitch
%&*#&(*E%^!!!
Hate to say it but the Reds have a real good prospect here. Kind of reminds me of our young pitchers last fall.Remember how excited we were about them then?
dick pole looks stiff
coney loves saying *dick*
Non-Yankee Take:
Watching LPGA Rochester stop…I love Natalie Gulbis…and Thompson is nearing 100.
This is probably going to be a loss. Thompson’s not that good, but the Yankees, as they always do seem to just throw their bats down when they see a new pitcher. Good teams don’t do that.
Damn you Marquis, you got 10 runs! You are under no obligation to give them back!
No luck for A-Rod.
Barry Larkin at SS there…jesus.
rconn23 I think Thompson is that good. Yankees won a game against a pitcher they had never seen before in the last series (or was it the one before that.) So you can’t use that as an excuse.
Thompson has pitched a great game. So maybe he is that good – today.
ARGH!
Hey guys, I had to work last night but I’m back. Giese has impressed the offense, not so much.
Melky’s mediocre offense is WAY down the list of concerns with this team. His CF defense is invaluable because they have so little range in LF and RF. What they need more is the Cano of the last two years and for Giambi and Abreu to be a lot more consistent instead of the hot/cold seasons they’ve been having.
Gardner is a fourth outfielder. He’d be more useful if he battd RH, but he would be a useful weapon for running or late inning defense once they go back to two catchers.
I think that fans of both teams have a right to be absolutely baffled that this game is scoreless.
Sterling really has a gift for understatement:
“THIS IS GUY IS AN UNBELIEVABLE REVELATION!”
Time to pop a nitro pill, JS, the other guy is good too.
Dan Giese: somewhere Wally Pipp is smiling
Jeez, did both teams lineups all forget to take their Viagra this morning?
Giese is certainly doing a fine job channeling Wang in this start.
Thompson is not that good we just played into his confidence level, basesloaded w/ 1 out and we screwed it up. I’m still reserving my Dan Giese comment.
This is just incredible.
Just like there are games with a ton of runs there are games with very few runs. Both happen to all teams. You can’t get bent out of shape because the Yankees are in a game without runs.
Dude. Giese is absolutely, positively the man. He needs to get the W today!!!
Cy Geise
Come guys, get us some runs!!
I wonder if John Sterling’s annoying Dan Giese call will be….drum roll….
“Geise Geise, baby….”
(think Vanilla Ice if you don’t get it)
“Totally agreed.
I wish these idiots would shut up.
Since being benched for a day in Houston, counting his pinch hit appearance, he’s been batting .444.
Do you idiots even WATCH THE GAMES?”
Why would they actually watch games when they can come here every day and keep spouting off the same nonsense?
Ya gotta give Giese kudos at the point in the game. Now for the offense to finally get offensive!
I think he’s earned a second start, that’s for sure
Yeah, but two runs in 14 innings against mostly rookies is putrid.
Yeh we GOTTA get the win for him. 62 pitches in 6 innings. Not bad at all folks! Lets get this other kid outta the game, and bring in some middle reliever who will let us score some much needed runs!
Rock on Giese!
I hope all of you people who wanted to trade Giese for Johan Santana have learned your lesson.
Brandon, Thompson is that good. You just have to toughen up and deal with it. The game is 9 innings. Wait to the end before you abandon all hope.
This man deserves some runs while he’s having the best game of his life but this team always stiffs the guys who pitch well.
At least Cy Thompson is out of the game.
I agree, Brandon – leaving the bases loaded seemed to give Thompson the moral victory/lift he needed to grind his way through the rest of the game. When a rookie pitcher gets out of something like that against a lineup like the Yankees it is as energizing as 2-out run scoring hits are demoralizing.
Fortunately the one thing the Yanks did do was run up his PC, hopefully we can get something going off their pen now.
Matsui was running gingerly there ..did anyone see it ?
Nice one, Nick.
This is probably the longest I’ve ever spent on here in one sitting, but a Saturday workday has ended. it’s been fun, folks.
go yanks!!!
I hope all of you people who wanted to trade Giese for Johan Santana have learned your lesson.
LOL
Think Cleveland would take him for Sabathia?
That’s a good LH reliever
See now nobody wants Jabba the hut to leave SWB. I am not saying Giese will do this everytime but he has a plan out there.
“Melky’s mediocre offense is WAY down the list of concerns with this team.”
Well said 86, you can’t have a team with a line-up of bashers and sacrifice the D totally. If we can’t generate enough offense that our so-so CF 9-hole hitter is an obstacle to wins, we’re lost.
The thing that doesn’t seem to be a factor this year is the energy and enthusiasm that Melky brought to the club last year which was so contagious. IDK if he’s dialed it down b/c he plays every day and takes it for granted, or if he just hasn’t had enough success to generate the positive vibes.
Could we please just get a solo dinger. Any offense would be a nice relief.
Yanks have 1 XBH in the last 15 innings…
Geise has been great, but let’s not lose sight of the fact that the Reds swing at EVERYTHING. This is like pitching to nine Robbie Canos.
I think we’re just seeing two great pitching performances. Journeymen sometimes give you great performances, and stars sometimes bomb.
Speaking of bombs, it may take one to win this game.
Christ this is frustrating!
Brandon- Of course he’s running gingerly he had fluid drained from his left knee 2 days ago and his right knee is surgically repaired. Just because he got that needed 2 days of rest doesnt mean that the pain is gone forever.
Fortunately the one thing the Yanks did do was run up his PC, hopefully we can get something going off their pen now.
Bray to Burton and Cordero only chance I see today is if Dusty puts Mike Lincoln and now we see why the Reds label Encarnacion as an untouchable
This is like that Toronto/Pittsburgh game from yesterday
3 runs in there last 23 innings…gotta produce better than that
Chien Ming who??
If Giese wants a win he better grab a bat.
“There are too many police bloggers in here. The fans that fall as b fans. Let them talk all they want. Just skip their post. Im one that usually think possitive. But there are times that i would like to bash a players performance. I wouldnt want to have posters make me look like im less of a fan for doing so. We all get in that mood at times. Even sj. Ease up fellas.”
Post of the day. Well said. For my part, I’d much rather read a complaint about the team or a specific player, a wacky trade proposal, a prospect overrating, etc, no matter how ill-informed, than yet another rant from a ‘keyboard tough guy’ about what morons other posters are. We’re supposed to be commenting on the game, not on each other.
What’s up with all of the web gems from the Cincy defense? This game is great – who’s hoping for a 9 inning shutout from Giese?
Da Giese Man
A really pathetic performace today by the offense to likely rob Giese of a well-deserved win. Awful, awful at bats.
Cano and Cabrera continue to be automatic outs.
Cordero= Choke artist, a few good months in the NL hasn’t convinced me other-wise.
“Melky’s mediocre offense is WAY down the list of concerns with this team.â€
He’s got a ways to go before achieving mediocrity. But he’s not close to the bigest concern.
Brandon Phillips looks like a blind man against Giese’s slider.
Well said Confucious.
S.A. are you paying attention?
power hitting RHB are what concerns me w/ Giese, that the uncertainty w/ him.
Yeah, our luck’s gotten worse.
damn all it takes is one mistake talk to him.
Poor Giese would have saved his game.
“Post of the day. Well said. For my part, I’d much rather read a complaint about the team or a specific player, a wacky trade proposal, a prospect overrating, etc, no matter how ill-informed, than yet another rant from a ‘keyboard tough guy’ about what morons other posters are. We’re supposed to be commenting on the game, not on each other.”
Word up. I mean we’re all fans here, can’t really expect people to never get frustrated when there is some very disappointing baseball unfolding in front of us.
Just lost a DP on that throw.
“Vrsce June 21st, 2008 at 2:52 pm
Well said Confucious.
S.A. are you paying attention?”
Good lord man yes-but I know you are not.
Oh no. Come on Giese
Oh man….
That’s so sad.
…. I feel so terrible for Dan Giese right now.
“Chien Ming who??”
Chien Ming Won 38 wins in the last 2 seasons.
Griffey left the base-line bad call!
Girardi looks pissed…as well he should be.
I think that was a smart play by A-Rod. Be sure of one out.
People who love to complain always stick up for others who love to complain. I think Confucius said something like that too…
I’m shocked that A-Rod isn’t screaming that he went out of the base line.
Yankee offense continues to run hot and cold. 2 runs, Thursday, 2 runs last night and nothing today. Game getting away now in the 7th inning. One run may be enough.
Yankees often struggle against hard throwers — no different today.
Please let’s not start blaming Giese. He’s pitched his tail off. This loss will be on the offense.
Careful, Dan.
Big strikeout. One more out to escape the inning
Vrsce, that was a very good post in which you issued a positive critique about Confucius’ post in which he/she criticized posts that critique other posts. The part where you reminded S.A. of your previous critique of her posts was the icing on the cake.
The next step in the LuHud blog comment section’s evolution will be when we take a cue from the Cultural Revolution and engage in more self-criticism. I’ll start: this post wasn’t everything it could have been. I’m sorry.
Sports Update instead of calling it running hot and cold I think you need to look at who pitches the games. If you’re talking average pitchers then I have to agree with you. If you’re talking really good pitchers then your point is meaningless. I forget who pitched Thursday but we all know that yesterday’s pitcher for Cincy is unbelievable.
Will not be a loss.
1 more Dan!
Just what he needed
One more
This is amazing. Friggin’ amazing.
This is Dan Giese people. Even Small wasn’t this good.
Here’s the AB that scares me
Riccardi was right!
LOL Nick
No matter what happens in this game, Giese deserves a loud ovation!
He came in with a plan, and he is sticking to it.
The “kid” is pitching his heart out. Fun to watch.
Oh my heart stopped a bit.
Whether Giese is one day lightning in a bottle or the real deal you can’t say enough about the way he pitched today. There should be NO criticsm.
Nick –
Is it a coincidence that you spell LuHud and Stanfurd that way or is this just a Golden Bear thing that I won’t understand?
You knew that was going to happen.
What the hell can you do?
oh well. yanks lost this in the third.
That crowd effected him you could see it.
Game over this really kills the momentum, I feel we are headed back to .500.
Why couldn’t the Yanks do that with bases loaded. The way the Yanks are hitting today, 2 runs is like a mountain to climb.
One inning too long for Giese.
Bad break. One strike away from a miraculous recovery.
Darn it
awwwww man. %^%&. So close to getting out of it!
I aint mad at Giese at all though, he pitched a hell of a game win or lose. And their lead isn’t a lead until they get us out in the bottom of the inning. Cmon bats get Giese this win!
How do you throw the ball over the plate on 0-2?
Why?
Sigh.
You know the Yankees will lose when they leave 8 guys on in the first 3 innings. You can chalk it up.
Are people seriously going to blame Giese for this? When a team gets 3 extra outs in an inning this is what happens.
leave it to the yanks to waste a great pitching performance by giese.
He pitched his haart out- and no doubt this earned him a 2nd start – good job dan!
Bad pitch selection. Should have come back with the slider.
I’m had enough crap from this offense. If Veras gets the out these guys had better win this game. Giese just pitched the game of his life.
Should have walked Encarnacion to face Patterson with 2 out.
Oh well. 5 more losses to get us back to .500
Cute sign in the crowd
Hopefully our offense can pick him up 6 2/3 2 runs Not bad at all
Frack.
Question: If the pitcher commits the error that allows a run to score, are they charged as earned runs?
Not an inning too long for Giese. Unfortunate error led to this. He is still pretty strong and only at 75 pitches.
we gonna blame this on Giese now? How do you leave the ball over the plate on 0-2…..
How do the yankees not score even ONCE with many RISP?
I really feel like this game was lost in the 3rd inning w/ the bases loaded. Unbelieveable they are developing a knack to lose in well pitched games.
“Game over this really kills the momentum, I feel we are headed back to .500.”
Yeah, I mean how can we ever come back against the Reds.
what?
Myrtlebeach I’m thinking the same thing. He had some pitches to waste. I think his youth and the crowd probably just propelled him to try to get it over with.
TKinDC: LuHud was an error, Stanfurd is correct.
And Giese really is an apt substitute for Wang, he’s clearly no ace either. Aces get run support and don’t allow runs.
This offense as someone said a few days ago is very Jekkyl and Hyde and quite frankly games like this indicate us being a .500 team.
Not to take away from what he did today – No Earned Runs, right? With the error and all.
The man pitched like a champ today.
But ouch. Two mistakes and he’s got no chance at a win. We should have scored 5+ runs today. Very sad.
he is 31 not a kid.. wow a team a player got a 2 out hit what a novel concept….
the yanks SUCK with RISP, that is a joke. AROD 250, giambi less the n200, cano the same etc… WHY can’t they get a big hit????
Storm:
Runs are unearned even if the pitcher makes the error.
that is what happens when you give a team 3 extra outs in an inning
pitcher errors are just like any other player errors in the field
Doesn’t matter who the error was on, they are still unearned runs.
Definitely not mad at Giese. He did great today.
This game isn’t over yet
No I think they are Un-Earned Runs Stormrider6
(Michael Kay just said the same thing too)
2 runs over 6 2/3 innings? That’s a hell of a game for a spot-start pitcher. This game is on the offense, period.
Now can you say game over!
And there is the bad Veras
Game over. Cant believe we lost this series
“One inning too long for Giese.”
No it wasn’t. He made a throwing error or he would have been out of the inning.
He pitched his heart out and deserved to win today, but this mediocre offense can’t get the job done.
OH SH*****T
You can NOT be serious! Veras! That really blows this game open now. Darnit.
why did they take Geise out with only 75 pitches
that was a great decision bringing in veras
oh Veras. why?
Bad job by the guy in the upper deck not hanging on to that ball…
wow AL from BK and TK in DC are this years Casey.. You know the whiner give up types…
are you guys 18???usually the young fools give up in the 7th inning…..
Unreal. Corey Patterson?????
What a friggin joke.
Sucks too because Giese did very well
I didn’t like the decision to bring in Veras.
Now I know why.
let Giese finish the *&^#*^% inning Joe.
I can’t stand Joe Girardi’s managing this season. I liked him for a while but he’s just unbelievable sometimes.
Arod blew this game as far as im concerned. nice double play jackhole!
I can forgive the kid, but not the bonehead
as bad as this looks right now, game still isnt over…
What the hell is wrong with this baseball team? Whose cereal did they piss in?
Corey Patterson?
I’m turning this off. I can’t watch this anymore.
Okay… time for some big innings by the Yankee offense. We’ve still got 9 outs.
Joe probably didn’t want to mess with his psyche. Girardi probably figured the game was still winnable so took the kid out. It is his first major league game.
that’s all folks!
This series loss to the Red’s really burns up the 7 game streak it makes that momentum irrelevant. Even Wang wasn’t going to pitch a shutout today oh well.
I saw that one coming. The guy really shouldn’t have given up any runs, but for errors. But seriously, when he brought in veras I knew that was going to happen. It looks like the hapless yankees are back. I could get as many hits as they have this game.
you guys are incredible….7 game winning streak and the yanks are on top of the world….then they lose 1, maybe 2 now and theyre the worst team in the bigs by the tone you guys have….
I get headaches sometimes reading this stuff
Losing is one thing. Losing because you give up a 2 run jack to one of the worst hitters in baseball? Just ridiculous.
“Arod blew this game as far as im concerned. nice double play jackhole!”
What? Are you even watching the game?
“TK in DC are this years Casey.. You know the whiner give up types…”
Pretty sure he was being sarcastic…you know, the “but how are we EVER going to come back against the shutdown skills of the great Cordero?!” type…
the yanks SUCK with RISP
Sadly your right but Alex is not in that equation right now. The bad ABs were Bobby, Robi, Melky and Georgy (surprisingly Georgy)
What the hell was Girardi thinking? He was cruising through out the game. Had only thrown 75 pitches and a ton of mistakes that inning that had a huge part in the runs scored. You keep him in!! Girardi trigger happy today.
What a nightmare ditto ron I wanna shut this game but there is nothing else on.
yeah now Myrtle with the standard not like the move garbage…
the offense lost the game if they lost. you know the overpriced slow inconsistent offense.. you know the arod$28 mill, giambi $21, jeter$19(another DP for a change) that offense…..
again yankee fans are as stupid as all other fans, read these posts you cannot come to a different conclusion.
oh and our stellar D did it again 2 games in a row…..arod must have been thinking of the hair tint he was getting on monday..
Look all I can tell you is that Yankees won 7 in a row. If they lose 2 in a row that means they stink?
You need to grow up.
Yanks are expected to win every game!
I wanna die right now this Cincy defense is ridiculous.
does a $200 Million dollar payroll ring a bell?
jolbert cabrera and corey patterson have hurt the yanks this weekend… these guys suck.. look at pattersons stats, he should be in retirement.. we got beat by 2 SCRUBS…….
but our big boys do zippo… cano the hero, swing at the 1st pitch or have clutch arod come thru….shutout thru 6 by the reds,,,,,,yech
What an awful pitch call by Posada on Encarnarcion’s single. The ball should be NO WHERE near the plate on an 0-2 count. Why don’t you throw some high cheese after two straight off speed pitches?
That pitching change was mind boggling. I don’t care how good Veras has been. Why take out Giese? He’d thrown 75-76 pitches and was cruising. Patterson is hitting .195, so what is Girardi worried about? I give him a chance to get out of the inning, by giving him another batter. Bad move Joe G.
Girardi is the same as Torre. He panicks whenever his starter gets touched up a little, despite the fact that he had been lights out for 6 innings and had a relatively low pitch count.
Also, Veras has been very solid lately, so any blaming Girardi for bringing him in is Monday morning quarterbacking IMO. Can anyone here honestly say they were wringing their hands in dismay when we saw they were going to him? No, not until after he gave up the homer.
and yes giving up a homer to Corey Patterson is pathetic but it isnt Girardis fault, all he has to go on is what he’s seen recently, he was just trying to get out of the inning w/a manageable score.
I wanna die right now this Cincy defense is ridiculous.
Even thier pitcher
Mark its called getting on a roll winning 7 and then losing a series to the REDS sort of kills that “roll”.
Gee, sorry to hear that Ron. You’ll be greatly missed.
Gonna be another 5.5 behind the Red Sox because we all know they dont suck and lose series to NL Central teams like we do. Not to mention they have their Jap
over or under Johnny breaks a bat
If you don’t understand taking out a kid in his first ML game who’s just given up two runs in late innings when your team has no runs you don’t understand baseball.
Last place Reds and lose 2 at home.
That is why this is an 85 win team.
Oh well, when’s the next series against Houston or San Diego?
you meant they have their Jap back
The Yankees are supposed to keep up beating on the crappy teams unfortunately they punked out this series.
For most of the nice plays Cincy made, I can name a play that counters. Bruce hands Giambi a single when he lets the ball drop in? Pitcher forgets to cover first? Do we forget about those breaks that went the Yankees way?
Good at bat JD!
I’m pretty sure Posada didn’t call for a meatball. Giese missed his location, badly.
And Dan Giese was clearly tiring. Getting him out before things could get worse was the right move. Nobody could have predicted Corey Patterson would take him deep.
This offense needs to answer. The Yankees cannot win if they don’t hit.
Anyone taking bets on a GIDP here ?
Giese’s pitch count was low relative to that of a regular starter, but who knows how many pitches they expected out of him today? He was brought up to be Joba’s long-man/caddy/whatever and then he suddenly became a starter. Maybe he routinely throws 100+ pitches in a game, but this was his first ML start, wasn’t it?
Come on Captain, show-em you’ve still got it!!
3 run jack!!
“He pitched his heart out and deserved to win today, but this mediocre offense can’t get the job done.”
He gave up 3 runs in 6 innings. That doesn’t exactly call for a win.
come on, get something from this
You read my mind Brandon.
Mark its called getting on a roll winning 7 and then losing a series to the REDS sort of kills that “rollâ€.
Al look at it this way. Cincy had really been playing poor baseball. You know teams don’t play poor baseball for 162 straight games. Comes a day they break out of it and start winning. Cincy did this now.
It isn’t like they cake walked over us either. They’ve been tough fort games. I didn’t think we’d take the first one without a doubt when I saw the ERA of the kid who pitched yesterday and saw his record.
GreenBeret, do you have a problem with me?
Not only was it his first ML start (unless he started in SF last yr, don’t think so tho) but he hadn’t pitched in an actual game in, what, a week and a half? Easing him back in pitch count wise was smart.
Burton in, Yanks out!
YanksAngel, the last thing the Yankees need here is Jeter swinging for the fences. A patented inside out hit would be fine, let Abreu and A-Rod try to hit one out.
OK, David Weathers coming in.
If we lose a game becasue of Patterson and David Weathers I’m ganna start following cricket instead of baseball.
bottomline= (1) offense did not capitalize…(2) Giese screwed up a double play….he pitched better than anyone thought he would…theres still time left in this game…show some faith
This game was lost in the early innings bases loaded 0 outs and you dont score WTF.
RalphieD. Yes to all of that.
Jete gets a DP! guaranteed.
Now lets see if this murderless row can get tap on some runs
Al in BK is right. They have to win series against last place teams at home.
What a loser.
David Weathers didn’t really just blow away Jeter, right?
nice ab Jeter…par for the course
Stuart -
I was ever so gently mocking Al in this:
““Game over this really kills the momentum, I feel we are headed back to .500.â€
Yeah, I mean how can we ever come back against the Reds.
what?”
I should have been more obvious in my sarcasm – I’ll try to be less indirect.
Remember when Jeter was good?
theres still time left in this game…show some faith
Every time we do this offense finds a way to choke, I don’t believe in this offense w/ RISP at all.
That’s not what I asked for Jeter
he sure is
nor from Abu
Jete cant hide behind his 4 rings his play has stunk this year how irritating is this game. Kay just made me so pissed with his “weathered the storm” Schtick go back to being Sterlings underling loser.
wow, Abreu is really killing us in the 3 hole right now, you’d think with A-Rod red hot that he would be getting good pitches to hit, and, ya know, actually hitting them…
DFox
I’d be overjoyed if anyone hit one out
Whoever said Al in BK is this years Kasey is 110% right.
Teddy then that means that every team that we played when the Yankees were in last place should have won the series against us if we played in their stadiums.
I can just hear this forum buying into that crap!
Any team can win on any given day.
“GreenBeret, do you have a problem with me?”
Call me crazy, but I would never ever utter this sentence to someone face-to-face because I am a big fan of taking my next breath.
Someday Jeter is going to be the Yanks’ all-time hit leader and we’ll wonder how many more hits he could have had if he wasn’t so crappy all the time.
you mean Bernie and Allen’s rings!
For Jete’s next commercial it should be about how he lost his edge cause “he soooo has no edge”. (right now)
brandon, do you go to many thunder games? just wondering.
Why, of course not, Ron. I just said that you’ll be greatly missed.
at least Jeter did not hit into a DP.. he has been bad this yr.. I can’t believe he is over 300 with RISP but with no power at all..
both today and yesterday were winnable games, TK I apologize can’t see sarcasm thru a keyboard.. Your post of giving up is what many of these yo yo’s think.
thank god I can’t see the game but have to loo kat this stupid espn gamecast..
Abreu is not hitting well lately also.
lose 2 in a row at hom to the reds…….BAd bad performance….
I’m watching Food network challenge good show better than the Yankees.
4 runs off Burton and Cordero?
Fat chance.
So we all fell for the Okey Doke…Yankees go on a tear only to have the mighty DREADS come into town and silence our bats…..this stinks…
“They have to win series against last place teams at home.”
Sure they should be winning games and series like this one. But when is the last time a team won every or even most of the games they were ‘supposed’ to win? That’s part of the beauty of baseball though it doesn’t seem so beautiful when it’s going against us. But if you want a sport where the better team almost always wins, watch football.
And to declare their season over just b/c they don’t win every game they’re supposed to is utterly laughable. Was their season over last year because they got swept by Colo and lost 2 of 3 to last place SF?
(this is not directed at the guy I was quoting btw, just speaking generally here)
Jeter has about as much of an edge as a 3 year old razor or Barry Zito.
““GreenBeret, do you have a problem with me?â€
Call me crazy, but I would never ever utter this sentence to someone face-to-face because I am a big fan of taking my next breath.”
Especially not someone named GREEN BERET. Hooah!
brandon, do you go to many thunder games? just wondering.
I’ve been mean to go to one this month
Francis I said AL in BK is this years Kasey.. the level of whining and quiting is staggering…
Bruce swings at everything, is he related to Cano???? Was just going to post Traber doing OK, that may be premature.. Janish, cabrera, and Patterson we are letting relly bad players hurt us……
Has Abreu caught the Canoitus? When is the last time he’s driven in someone? This offense should have at least 6 runs by now. Cant continue to give away wins. As Brandon would say “wake the f-up” YANKS!!
meaning* (sorry to pissed off right now)
Next year in the draft the Yanks need to pick a college aged short-stop of the future because Jete looks done now.
better go to the pen now, phillips agains ttraber, no thank you…
Teddy then that means that every team that we played when the Yankees were in last place should have won the series against us if we played in their stadiums.
I can just hear this forum buying into that crap!
Any team can win on any given day.
We are the Yankees. A team that supposedly is one of the 4 best teams in the game. We should never lose a series to a last place team at home. I don’t care about anyone else.
al go watch the teletubbies, please. your positive vibes are getting us down…
Brandon, when you going to release your Dan Giese comment?
anyway if nothing else hopefully that sequence will put an end to the Traber experiment.
Well, Traber still sucks I see.
How was Giese tiring? Did you think he was tiring when he induced what should have been a dribbling DP ball, struck out Adam Dunn, and then went 0-2 on Encarnarcion? So somehow, Giese got tired after throwing that 0-2 middle of the plate fastball. Posada made a bad choice, and Girardi made a stupid switch. It’s ok to criticize when it’s warranted. It doesn’t make you any less of a fan. It simply makes you honest and objective. I compliment when they do the right thing too.
I’m sure Posada didn’t call for a meatball. His pitch location was gross. Why try to beat a guy inside with 87 mph stuff, with two on, and two out? It’s 0-2. The next pitch shouldn’t be anywhere near the strike zone. Inside pitches are the hardest to make as is. Bad call. high cheese all the way.
Nice job Traber. and we brought you up because?
no excuses if Ohlendorf fails he has not been overused….
yankees suck,… they now cant even play good defense last nigh damon and molina did their jobs 4/2 the score and today thanks to a rod we will lose because i hate to say it this is not a championship team.. posada sucks, arod seems to only hits when the yankees are leading cano needs to go back to the minors and work his fuc..king swing we need more yankees like in the late 90s.
no more overpay players i just one 9 yankees in the field
Teddy like someone else just said. That’s the beauty of the game.
What hurt us was having that kid’s start come up last night. The kid is unbelievable. I can’t blame the Yankees for not beating him.
Stuart- I am usually not a quitter but this game is particularly pathetic. Lose 2 of 3 to the REDS at home I dont get it and also Girardi is so impulsive as a manager he disappoints me.
As Brandon would say “wake the f-up†YANKS!!
No this is how I would say it.
WAKE THE F… UP YANKS !
Al from BK June 21st, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Next year in the draft the Yanks need to pick a college aged short-stop of the future because Jete looks done now.
Can we get a ban on this guy yet? What else does he have to say to get the boot, Pete? Ridiculous
We have to realize the ’08 Yanks have too many aging ex-boppers on the “downside” of their career…but we are still fignting for the playoffs even with a “patched-up” rotation…so we might as well enjoy it.
That being said, I know many here like to look at the recent “hot streaks” of Matsui, JD & ‘Stache as reasons to keep /sign them…but we have to get younger and better defensively in the off-season.
Nick in SF
If it (Brandon’s comment) is negative, you might whine at him, perhaps he had better hold it in.
StormRider…the name is just my name, and it was just a job that I was good at for over 35 years. No big deal. I had a great time doing something of value and doing it well.
Blame Cashman for not getting a Marte. DOn’t blame Girardi. He has to use whats out there.
Hey I really wish we still had Bowa too. He definitely made a difference in Robby and Melky.
Who do we have pitching tomorrw?
Your mission Ohlendorf-not to give up any runs here and get out of this. Please don’t fail
Mr Mulligan,
Thats how its been for the past 5 years.
When will Cashman realize that starting pitching wins titles?
ugh well so much for the dp possibility there…
Floodgates about to open……
I’m just remembering right now Gary Denbo was fired by Toronto I’ve always liked him don’t know why he was fired the BJays were one of the most patient offense w/ him in toronto.
Thanks Yanks. Now we get a 10,000 word posting from SJ44 critiquing the crappy Yanks.
Tomorrow is Andy pitching.
Um, Ohlendorf? Remember the mission
Mark – Pettitte vs Cueto tomorrow.
“Nice job Traber. and we brought you up because?”
Because Chris Britton was racking up too many Hertz/Skymiles/Greyhound points.
If a lefty can’t get lefty hitters out, then he is useless. I am ‘watching’ on gameday and the pitches seemed to be outside or over the plate when the reason he got sent down last time was be/c he couldn’t pitch inside to lefties.
If one person says one bad thing about Alex on that dive I swear….
“I’m just remembering right now Gary Denbo was fired by Toronto I’ve always liked him don’t know why he was fired the BJays were one of the most patient offense w/ him in toronto.”
Maybe the fact that they were one of the worst teams in SCORING RUNS had something to do with it.
We got some Grade A morons here.
i dont even want to watch te yankees any more
Gee –
can we get a defeatist comment from Al to puncuate that play?
One thing I will say. When things start to go bad with the Yankees they have the potential to really go bad.
Ollie- Jeter looks like an average short-stop these days and for him that is very dis-heartening. He is a perennial all-star and quite frankly he has looked like a league average SS this year. How does that deserve a ban, so you disagree with me but in a few years Jeter will need to be replaced. That is not my opinion its fact if he looks like this now what will he be in 3 years consider it.
What a waste of an afternoon this was.
Well, that was a failure.
Now this game is over.
Thanks. Let’s hope that Andy has his game face on, the one he uses after Yankee losses.
I forgot when was the last time Ross didn’t let inherited runners score.
He seems to be good when he starts an inning, for that inning
With runners on, NOT SO MUCH!!
The bullpen, which had been doing a great job recently, have started to suck again.
TK in DC
I’m blacked out from the game…but the radio announcers were even saying that Traber couldn’t get inside on the hitters
Okay, not that the game is over, but down 6-0 in the 8th is cause for concern.
That was probably lights out for the Yanks. Lot of two out hitting by the Reds of late.
Ohlendorf annoys me. Almost every time out all season he has not gotten the job done and has been a big truck of epic fail. I think he will be a good RP one day but right now it seems like he could use more seasoning in the minors. I really don’t understand keeping him up all year while barely giving someone like Britton a chance at all. And Patterson came up once and pitched well, we havent seen him since but Ohlendorf and his pushing-6 ERA still reign supreme.. what gives?
Traber is up cuz the Yankees will soon need another spot on the 40 man, and they want to see if he can contribute or not. So far it’s looking like he’s working his way to be DFA’d. Such a move would mean Ponson gets a spot on the 40, or maybe a guy like Robertson gets up here. Each is not on the 40 man.
Ohlendorf has a terrific arm, but he’s far too hittable at this point in his mlb career. He could maybe use a stint in the minors to sharpen his command & quality. I think he’s going to be a good reliever eventually.
Can we finally call it like it is! Olie sucks and has sucked since the beginning of the year. His sinker sucks. His first innings suck. He flat out sucks!! Bring Robertson or Patterson to take his spot. He reminds me of Quantrill. Keep hoping he will become something that he aint. Had to get that off my chest. Iv been saying this for over a month now. He doesnt have Wangs sinker. Move on.
“Mr Mulligan,
Thats how its been for the past 5 years.
When will Cashman realize that starting pitching wins titles?”
I think we’ll see a large turnover in personnel heading into the new stadium…and I’m not ready to give up on Franchise, either.
Big concern is Wang coming back from such a serious injury…a pitchers feet/legs are 2nd only to his arm.
Wow, embarassed @ home by the lowly Reds two games in-a-row…sad.
“Let’s hope that Andy has his game face on, the one he uses after Yankee losses.”
Agreed that the Yanks will need Andy to come up big so they can take 1 against the Reds and start a new winning streak heading into Pittsburgh.
Ohlendorf does need to go down. if they are not going to DFA hawkins(a no brainer) Ohlendorf has been bad so far.. he has a future but needs to go down and work on some stuff…
his ERA is over 5.50, he throws a ton of wild pitches also.. send him down to get his head together….
again another hit with RISP.. My bad I forgot it was the other team not ours…
send down ohlendorf and DFA Hawkins they hate him and know he sucks and call up robertson and Melancon….I have been saying this for 4 weeks or more….
Whine, Vrsce? Perish the thought. I just want to read the comment before my laptop dies. I always enjoy Brandon’s posts.
yanks left 22 on base this afternoon so far…. they deserve to loose
Enough already with Ohlendorf. He Ohlenawful.
Chances are Cueto will look like a Cy Young award winner tomorrow as well. Also I am sick of David Cones praising of the other team can he keep that anti-yankee schtick to himself really its annoying hearing “Well, mike these kids are playing I understand when I was a kid I wanted to beat the Yankees too I hated them growing up.”
Sorry he reminds me even more of Sturtz.
“I forgot when was the last time Ross didn’t let inherited runners score.”
Good point. Ohlendorf hasn’t been particularly good in any situation, but he’s really weak when he inherits runners.
Well these are the real Yanks.
The streak was nice while it lasted.
And another reason why taking out Giese was moronic. Traber started the 8th. Why take out Giese in a 2 run game, with 2 out, where he was pitching so well, and use up Veras for a .195 hitter? Especially when you’re going to start Traber in the 8th? Makes no sense at all. I like Girardi, and was estatic when they named him manager, so please don’t think I’m picking on him. That move was dumb.
Okay, not that the game is over, but down 6-0 in the 8th is cause for concern.
Pass the crackpipe please.
“Sorry he reminds me even more of Sturtz.”
wow, great call, SoS
And this is the real bad bullpen we all know and loathe.
Ohlendorf is really not a good pitcher. People keep trying to make excuses for him, but he’a always kind of sucked.
Back towards .500 we go
OK Brandon, give it up.
What is your Giese comment?
I guess Steve Philips was right about Burton
Girardi is a terrible in game manager.
We have all seen it.
Has he made one great move?
This team’s got no fight in it. They’re like the school bully. punch him in the gut and instead of battling back, they crawl into the corner. It looks like after the 4th, the offense packed it in, then the defense packed it in, and finally, the pitching said, “what the hell” lets pack it in as well. Nice…..I smell .500 right around the corner.
Just get it over with quick please. I’m tired of following this crapfest of a game.
“I really don’t understand keeping him up all year while barely giving someone like Britton a chance at all.”
I’ve seen a lot of Britton (that isn’t a fat joke, btw) b/c as an Oriole he was on TV here a bunch. His ceiling is low imo, he can be a 6th inning guy or a 7th inning in a laugher but i don’t think he has any discernible talent to get big outs in big innings.
Only good thing about Ohlendorf sucking it up (as usual) in his first inning of work (where BTW, he has a 7+ ERA, much higher than his subsequent innings) is at least the usual idiotic “Ohlendorf is being misused” urban legend stops getting propagated…
Why is a guy who put up a 5+ ERA in AAA pitching in the majors anyway? Rest assured if he looked like Chris Britton, he would not be pitching in the majors and folks wouldn’t be clamoring about his so-called potential.
Yeah so he can strike folks out. Big woop, so he can be Jay Witasick-lite. Even Jay Witasick at least put up a
Ohlendorf belongs in Scranton. But because our big off season pick up was Latroy Suckins. I guess we’re stuck with his on the job learning.
“yanks left 22 on base this afternoon so far…. they deserve to loose”
The’ve only put 10 men on base in the game. Posada, Cano and Melky Mendoza each left three on in the 2nd inning, but they were the same three. Counts as 3 LOB, not nine.
The sarcasm thing passed morons like Fredo by long ago.
“I guess Steve Philips was right about Burton”
He’s not right about much. What’d he say?
Whatever he said, Burton is a pretty solid late inning guy.
I am rocking a mustache right now I wonder when I should save it now because the Yanks are losing or let it wait til they start winning? anyone got any suggestions.
Real World, you cannot expect Giese to go 8 scoreless against a AAA team, let alone the Reds.
Girardi pulled him at the right time, and Veras let him down. And Traber did more sucking.
This is either going to be an amazing comeback win or one of the most disheartening losses of the season. I’m unfortunately fairly certain it will be the latter.
At the beginning of the season I used to make the excuses that Ohlendorf just wasn’t being used correctly but by now the jig is up and we can all tell what time it is when it comes to him. He has failed in every concievable type of situation in which he’s pitched. Can’t do long relief and can’t come in in late innings with men on and induce a DP. And the latter was supposed to be his bread and butter.
Time to give this guy a chance to regroup in the minors before his failures destroy his confidence so bad that he needs the better part of a year to recoup, ala Clippard.
adios all, another bad loss…I can take losses but when the other team plays better not sloppy d, no clutch hitting etc.
again why do we need to see hawkins, traber, and ohlendorf???’ Again I will listen to the experts Ohlendorf has potetnital but he is not ready send him down, guys are hitting about 300 against him witha upper 5 ERA, with a ton of BB’s…
Traber has not excelled here or in SWB, he stinks.. he is a lefty but again send him down if he excells give him another chance else to bad…
why is this so hard, really is hawkins so friggin valuable,so they blew 1/2 of his $3.5 mill salary, wow wee …
The Sox don’t have Ortiz and Dice K and we still can’t pick up games.
These Yanks suck that’s all I can say. Our only hope for 27 is in 2009!
Girardi is a decent manager who’s somewhat learning on the job. This is his second year as a manager, and he’s not dealing with a traditional MLB roster. some of his decisions have been odd, but it’s usually that you only remember what doesn’t work. When they send Arod the other day & steal second, which ended up being a run after a single from the next batter, you don’t factor in the manager too much. Girardi isn’t bad, he just makes some strange decisions. The Giese move being an example.
What do you know? Men in scoring position.
no matter they had too many chances…maybe tomorrow
stuart,
Do you ever see those scrub pitchers in a tight game?
Put a cork in the whining jerk.
Many suggestions Al. but Pete will not allow them.
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Nice Giambino that would have been better before you were down a half dozen runs.
or today this one aint over:D
I thought we might actually score on that.
Giambi pulled out the 9-iron for that hit.
I know a positive comment is verboten right now – but Giambi at 2 for 3 is showing sign of being out of the slump.
So the stache can stay and he even hit to left center.
We are paying the price for Cashman not doing his job.
Didn’t improve the SP.
No lefty in the pen.
No reliable 8th inning guy for when Joba move to the rotation.
No speed on the bench.
No right hand hitter.
No glove to backup Giambi at 1b.
Wow.
Baker apparently so senile he needs a list of who has forgotten the number of outs.
Reds have forgotten how to count
Ron, it was the top of the 7th, with 2 outs, a man on first, and 75 pitches thrown. Oh, and a guy who can’t hit was up. Patterson is hitting .195 on the season. Why bring in Veras, especially when you’re going to start TRaber in the 8th? You give Giese the next batter. If he reaches, you come in with Veras or Traber depending on who’s up. It was a bad move, which most people felt as it happened, and not after the homer.
cano is hitting 219 with RISP.. better then giambi but terrible..
good at bat by cano! woohoo!
“His ceiling is low imo, he can be a 6th inning guy or a 7th inning in a laugher but i don’t think he has any discernible talent to get big outs in big innings.”
Actually that is true, we’ve seen the same in his small sample size with the Yanks. Lights out with big leads or deficits and coughing it up in close games. But it seems like Ohlendorf ALWAYS lets inherited runners score whether we’re up 6 runs, down 4 or whatever the case may be. Even if Britton isnt the answer there HAS to be a better choice than Ross..
Vrsce- You gotta grow up threatening someone online is really 14 year old girl. I gotta lotta things to say to but I have class unlike you.
Dan Giese couldn’t have pitched a better game, I mean going nearly 7 IP w/o allowing a run, the Reds aren’t exactly the Red Sox offense but they can hurt you. In AAA Giese did this alot he pitched deep into games w/ a very low pitch count, he had one game which he imploded every other game this guy just manages to get you deep into games and I can’t really explain it, all I can say is Rafael Chaves the pitching coordinator in Scranton worked wonders w/ eliminating a pitch from his arsenal and then he just took off. Unfortunately for Giese the Murderless Row/ Wild Swinging Yankees offense showed up in his well pitched game, I literally don’t even think this offense today will score a run, if they do it’s a luck bloop or a mistake pitch.
Get rid of Ohlendorf, Traber and Hawkins now. Bring up Robertson, Melancon and Cox(when he’s off the DL). Don’t tell me their not ready. They can’t do a lot worse than those three bums. Also Thompson on Cincinnati was not ready and he just shutout our best linup. Please everyone on this board can see this why can’t the Yanks.
I’m going to go out on a limb and say Ohlensucks leads the league in allowing inherited runners to score.
Will K:
Please provide a solution to every single one of the above problems. I want specific players, trade packages, and contracts.
Good Luck.
Here is another positve comment, already stated, Girardi should have positively left Giese in the game.
Will K,
You forget that Cashman only has 240 million to spend. How can he afford all those things for the team????
I’m sick of the “Cano will break out at any time” garbage.
He’s shown absolutely no signs of getting his head straight. I officially give up on him today.
“The sarcasm thing passed morons like Fredo by long ago.”
Yet the stupidity thing stuck to you like glue.
stranded again
I don’t know, RW. Honestly, I was astounded that Giese had lasted that long, and thought that he was going to implode at any moment. He’s just not that good.
Giese choked it up in the 7th. Stop saying he pitched a great game. 3 runs in 6 2/3 isn’t great.
AL
No threat, something gross maybe.
I wonder if the Yanks can break this offensive stupor it seems when they get on a cold streak it carries for a series or so.
“I’m going to go out on a limb and say Ohlensucks leads the league in allowing inherited runners to score.”
Not as long as Okajima is on the Red Sox, he isn’t. He’s not very good though.
such a shame…team wins 7 games in a row loses yesterday and its not looking good today and everybody is ready again to throw away the season, go back to .500…this is insanity, my favorite “the team has got no heart” line..yea thats a classic, this team certainly wants to lose…this team will find a way to get the job done this season, it may not be easy, it may not be pretty but they will perservere
Real World,
I agree 100%. Girardi panicked when Giece was still pitching good. Offense needs most of the blame. They didnt give Giece room to breath. Time to turn the page. Hopefully we bring our bats tomorrow.
See you folks tomorrow.
Bob:
We’re talking about Dan Giese. That’s friggin’ amazing for Dan Giese.
Say something negative Fredo. We all need to hear your clueless negativity.
Vrsce- Sorry I like the girls, but thanks anyway.
Bob
June 21st, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Giese choked it up in the 7th. Stop saying he pitched a great game. 3 runs in 6 2/3 isn’t great.
Just for the record, that wasn’t me saying that nonsense.
Giese gave more than anyone expected today.
This one’s on the lineup, not him.
“Giese choked it up in the 7th. Stop saying he pitched a great game. 3 runs in 6 2/3 isn’t great”
All unearned runs. He’s a spot starter. You take that effort from a spot starter.
AL,
I figured that
The Yankees are just a terrible team at this point. No heart. No fire.
This team is a fraud right now, even for a team that’s only 5 games over .500.
Terrible with RISP, terrible bullpen – except Mo.
The Yanks are 5 games behind the Sox, it might as well be 20. The Sox are light years ahead of the Yankees, and if changes aren’t made in the offseason, that chasm will only continue to grow.
Apologies, Non-Troll-Bob.
wow we get the great hawkins to really improve our viewing pleaseure…
look at the ERA’s of traber, ohlendorf, and hawkins!!!!!!!!Ouch..He may be a=effective this is meaningless time..
I think we went like 0 for 10 with RISP, if anyone has the exact # please provide.
Giese is what he is. A 5th starter who did what he had to do. 3 runs isn’t great but who expected better?
1 for 11 with RISP. The Yankees suck, theeeee Yankees suck.
We all knew that the 7 game winning streak had more to do with who they were playing than how good the Yanks were.
It’s a given they will drop down close to the .500 level again. It’s what this team is.
Giese choked it up in the 7th. Stop saying he pitched a great game. 3 runs in 6 2/3 isn’t great.
Giese did choke in the 7th but he did pitch great. There is nothing bad you ban say about his pitching performance today. The offense was just even more pathetic.
Meanwhile Mr. Mopup here for some reason pitches great in garbage innings.
I forgot there is only one Bob in the world???
Who gave you claim on my name?
Billy Bo is 20-30 IQ points short of being a dumbass.
That negative enough for you, Beavis?
To the regulars, my apologies for allowing myself to be dragged into Billy Bo’s morass of idiocy.
I wish I had some good drugs to escape the Yankees.
the yanks have there pen answers in house…
try melancon, robertosn, and cox. all top talents with great pedigree’s.. these guys have closed for big time NCAA programs 2 of them at least and are very well respected…..
try them??????????
All of you guys think that Cashman is a piss-poor GM, and rip him for failing to get things done. Yet none of you can present a solution using the cards he was dealt.
such a shame…team wins 7 games in a row loses yesterday and its not looking good today and everybody is ready again to throw away the season, go back to .500…this is insanity, my favorite “the team has got no heart†line..yea thats a classic, this team certainly wants to lose…this team will find a way to get the job done this season, it may not be easy, it may not be pretty but they will perservere
My nomination for post of the day.
Nothing much more to say past this.
Girardi’s poor calls this year are getting old – At least Mussina has the balls to standup
I guess we should really look at that 7 game win streak with a clearer eye.
The Astros? Padres?
We aren’t that good.
I guess I’ll have to amend my name.
“Giese choked it up in the 7th. Stop saying he pitched a great game. 3 runs in 6 2/3 isn’t great.”
Such nonsense. You couldn’t be more wrong. This abysmal offense lost the game.
Giese gave a qulity start, and that 3rd run was due to a gopher ball given up by Veras.
Doesn’t Affeldt suck?
“We all knew that the 7 game winning streak had more to do with who they were playing than how good the Yanks were.”
They are playing the last place Reds, from the NL Central. The winning streak had more to do with luck than anything else. The offense is right to struggling mode and the D still looks bad. On our way back to .500
1 for 11 with RISP aint winning any games…
hawkins lowered his ERA with that stellar outing to 5.46 so it is now lower then Ohlendorf by a little bit…
“V
June 21st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
The Yankees are just a terrible team at this point. No heart. No fire.”
This was not me. Get your own login, prick.
Ron,
He has 250 mill to play with a top 5 farm system to use to get better. He has the best facilities and the best scouts. He has a good team in the best town in the world. He has owners who think money is no object.
What more does a GM need???
Please.
Amend what you want. I’ve been Bob here for 2 years.
Yeah Affeldt does suck and Farnsworth once beat his azz in a bench clearing brawl. Maybe we can get some more of that today? I mean nothing else exciting looks like its gonna happen!
“Yet none of you can present a solution using the cards he was dealt.”
The cards he was dealt? He’s the dealer! He’s been the freaking GM for 10 years now. Good Lord.
wow its a good thing some of u aint at the helm stocks fall a bit for the day your ready to pull the plug… i hear u thou its very frustrating watching a team day in and out but the high is dam good
V June 21st, 2008 at 3:57 pm
“V
June 21st, 2008 at 3:52 pm
The Yankees are just a terrible team at this point. No heart. No fire.â€
This was not me. Get your own login, prick.
That was not me.
Following these games on GameDay gives me a headache.
Glad I shelled out all that money for ExtraInnings.
wow how do you let Jeremy Affledt come back from a 3-0 count? It’s like they arent even trying anymore!
If you’re not enjoying yourself, I have an idea: it’s a nice Saturday afternoon – turn off your computer, turn off the TV, and go outside (I’m on my patio listening to the game, posting on my laptop
).
All of you incessant whiners, please try to grow up. When the Yankees are in the postseason, you’ll be the bandwagon morons pretending you ‘knew it’ all along.
You just know they will loser when they strand every runner in the early goings.
Amend what you want. I’ve been Bob here for 2 years
Not a big deal man. Just don’t want anyone here thinking your comments are mine.
Let’s hope that the Red Sox and Rays lose their games today…
Dice-K just gave up a 2-run homer in the first so we might have a chance.
Why are you stealing my name, jerk?
Go away.
7 game winning streak came mainly vs. Astros and Padres…these 2 games are exposing the Yanks now….these games remind me of a playoff series…good starting pitching shutting our vaunted offense down and no 2 out hits….Yankees offense goes into these funks that bewilder me…only thing I can come up with is we need 1 or 2 more professional and speedy hitters (see Ellsbury and Pedroia with the Sox) that can move runners over, make contact more, and then do more running on the bases…I hate to say it but Jeter is really hurting us right now….since 2006 vs. Tigers in the payoffs this offense has just gone on some weird funks where they can’t do anything…can anyone figure this out other than good pitching????
After reading your negative comments about the Yanks, I’m glad you changed your name. I don’t want a quitter associated with me.
Welcome back Matsusucka!
They’ll probably still win though.
“V
June 21st, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Why are you stealing my name, jerk?
Go away.”
Who is this, Confucius?
This is why I’m in favor of logins. Idiots like this.
I wish Cash would use the farm system.. they have all these supposed nuggets just wasting time in AAA….yeah yeah yeah they are not ready,BS>>>>>
melancon has 49 IP’s in AA, florida league etc.. the guy closed in the pac 10 3 yrs ago and was great, nut is wasting time in Trenton….Robertson the same, etc…
Not a good offensive day when your walked 6 times and you can’t push across a run. Walks normally kill teams. We’ve got to find a way to manufacture some runs.
2 runs in the last Pads game
2 last night
0 today
Someone(s) need to step up. Pitchers are giving them the team a chance to win.
What does he need? How about teams willing to trade pitchers to the Yankees without holding a gun to their heads? How about a half-decent free agent market? We got an absolute worst case scenario situation with Hughes and Kennedy, and I can hardly blame Cashman for failing to anticipate his plan completely blowing up in his face. We all knew this COULD happen, but few thought it would be this bad.
We get two very well pitched starts and we can’t win at home against a last place team.
I got no doubts we score 12 tomorrow for Andy off Cueto.
stuart – didn’t you say goodbye 20 minutes ago? Shortly after Al promised he was watching the Food network?
Give us some time to miss you both!
Very disappointing loss for the Yanks today. I really hope that the bats show up tomorrow. They better take at least one from Cincinnati.
They lost yesterday. Cards have a runner on first and there aren’t any outs yet. Cards should put the pressure on while they have Dice-K on the ropes.
Really pathetic.
“professional and speedy hitters (see Ellsbury and Pedroia with the Sox)” …. uhhhhh, wasn’t that what the Damon and Abreu signings were about?
Well, that certainly sucked.
I leave the house and we got 4 hits to their 2, and I come back to find us down by 6.
Daisuke back from the DL.
Down 2-0, game on Fox.
Hopefully we’ll tread water even with the loss.
Great effort today guys!
Get out there on a Saturday night and enjoy all your money!
“Who is this, Confucius?
This is why I’m in favor of logins. Idiots like this.”
No, actually, it’s not.
Clearly, calling you out for being a jerk toward other posters can -only- mean I have some vendetta against you, right? It can’t mean I actually have a point, can it?
Terrible horrible no good very bad and horrendous game today. I know thats stating the obvious, but damn. Last night’s loss I could more or less take but this one hurts.
Ron,
If you really think Cashman is the cats meow and all the other teams conspire to shiv the Yanks than you need help.
And no GM puts his season in the hands of three 21 yr old pitchers. If one turns out solid it;s ok. We got lucky. One did.
He didn’t plan for when that said pitcher would move to the rotation. Unless you count Hawkins.
He didn’t get another top level starter. Sometimes you have to give up talent to get talent.
Fact of life.
Go away other V.
Sigh. I can’t tell if I’m more frustrated at that baseball game or that I’m still trying to finish up work from this week.
Then again, if I had spent more time actually working and less time watching that game…
It is an ugly loss, but things happen.
Ofense needs to get its mojo back.
In the bullpen, though many are high on him, it looks like Ohlendorf needs some time in the minors to refine his stuff. He has great stuff, but he either walks people or gives too many hits. One day he will be great, but now he probably needs some seasoning in the minors.
shutout by a rookie who has pitched 10 games above A.. that is it.. the guy threw 90+ pitches in 5 innings….
not ready yet, BS… hawkins sucks, so does traber and ohlendorf needs some work but they are up why????????????????????????????????????
Gardner will not and should not start in CF but if they want to call him up for a look as a 4th outfield why the hell not??2 weeks get some AB’s, pinch run, lay down a bunt how complicated is it?????????
other teams most will do this why not the Yanks, I do not understand there 40 man roster strategy????if they lsot traber or Moeller(more important) would it be the end of the world????
Another base hit for the Cards. Nobody out yet.
Please stop using my name. The Yankees are making the playoffs this year, but will be bounced in the first round. They are nothing more than a .500 team
You just don’t run on Damon!
Who cares if the Sox lose? If we did what we had to do today and last night we’d be down 3 games right now. Worry about ourselves.
I don’t get why people are talking about the midrelief it’s plain simple you don’t score you don’t put pressure on anyone, it’s not the pitching that is causing games it’s this P**sy offense that can hit w/ RISP namely Georgy, Robi and Melky, when you have an AB w/ baseloaded and 0 outs and the rookie gets through those 3 w/o throwing double digit pitches, your plate discipline and IQ really stinks.
The Yankees are a .500 team with no signs of life here the past 2 days.
stuart –
You do realize that there are already 4 OFs on the team right?
I cannot read a Brandon post.
Everytime I see his name I think why don’t we have Johan Santana?
For Kennedy and Hughes and the .250 hitting Melky?
Are you kidding me?
Who cares if the Sox lose? If we did what we had to do today and last night we’d be down 3 games right now. Worry about ourselves.
Who cares if the Sox lose? People who like to deal with reality Teddy. Yeah we’d been 3 down but it didn’t happen. Since we lost today I know that I care if the Sox lose.
2 more runs in. 4-0 Cards.
I cannot count Matsui as a 4th OF when he can’t play the field.
Brandon be fair, Melky .. How about Giambino, the guy is hitting under 160 with RISP..160, but he does not get a mentione from you…………
thanks mark for the nomination lol…
ofcourse the 7 game winning streak is partly because of who we were playng but face it…you still have to play the games and exeucute..they did that for 7 games in a row and won them…if they had won yesterday and today and were on a 9 game winning streak “oh yea were playing the reds..WERE SUPPOSED TO WIN..” face it guys…no wins are guaranteed…you have to exeucute to win regardless of who your playing…to say that the yankees are nothing for winning 7 in a row and then losing to tough games back to back is simply ludacris
“V
June 21st, 2008 at 4:08 pm
The Yankees are a .500 team with no signs of life here the past 2 days.”
Go away, imbecile.
Anyone who knows my posts, remember that this joker is f-ing with you.
We need to have logins on here.
The “reality” mark is if we don’t start playing better and beating last place dead teams it won’t matter what the Sox do.
Worry about us first.
8 men up in the first inning for the Cards and still batting. I wonder if Francona takes Dice-K out soon?
“Who cares if the Sox lose? If we did what we had to do today and last night we’d be down 3 games right now. Worry about ourselves.”
Um . . . I care. You see they keep a record of wins and losses called the ‘standings’ and if we win more games than the Sox, we get to go to the ‘playoffs’.
The Sox losing is good for us to win a thing called the ‘division’.
I assume this is all new to you b/c your comment was so baffling.
I don’t even bother anymore to call out specific players who are batting poorly with RISP because at this point it’s practically the whole team. It’s much quicker to commend those who aren’t sucking in those situations, which would be Damon, Matsui, A-Rod and Jeter are doing okay, beyond that everyone is killing us with men on. It’s not an individual woe anymore it’s a team one.
“8 men up in the first inning for the Cards and still batting. I wonder if Francona takes Dice-K out soon?”
His velocity looks way down.
Who gave people rights on “names” here? I think the letter V is pretty common don’t you think?
TK yes I did but they have no speed off the bench none…
again Gardenr would be a short look, he plays well keep him on the roster if he plays poorly send him down..
Most guys need time up and down to succeed, you do not get punished if you go down to work on things, it is not a big deal….
The “reality†mark is if we don’t start playing better and beating last place dead teams it won’t matter what the Sox do.
Worry about us first.
Always do Teddy. Our game is over. We lost. Anyone with a brain is hoping the Red Sox lose so we don’t get further behind.
If that leaves you out then you just worry about us.
We really need to have logins here. Is anyone out there listening? Please, we need logins.
The losses are more disappointing because they are to the a terrible reds team. I can understand them taking the game yesterday with the next Pedro on the mound, but losing today to a kid who has never faced a lineup like this in his life. Unacceptable.
“Go away, imbecile.
Anyone who knows my posts, remember that this joker is f-ing with you.
We need to have logins on here.”
Anyone that comes here knows the person with the nasty and foul mouth and general lewdness is the jerk V. He has a real touch of zero class about himself.
Outstanding offensive effort and the consistency is amazing.
How to go from hero to zero in 2 easy games.
Opportunities to gain ground is of no significance.
The truth of the matter is that if you lose, the next best thing are losses by contending teams.
You want to lose another game in the standings? Or would you rather have it stay the same? I’d rather not lose ground in the standings.
But that’s just me.
“Who gave people rights on “names†here? I think the letter V is pretty common don’t you think?”
I’ve been posting as this name for awhile now. No one else has used it.
This joker is using my chosen login to basically be the opposite of me.
He’s an idiot.
I want logins to stop other people from using my V.
BBB you are probably right on the total team ineptness with RISP…
again teams like the cardinals even the sux they bring guys up and down over and over, it is not a big deal but the yanks never do it. the last guy they did it with was Melky over 3 yrs ago, and I do not think it scared him mentally.
BTW I think he is a good player and is not the reason they are 5 over 500…..
The Yanks should just trade everyone away. Send all the overpaid scrubs home for not playing hard.
Teddy winning 7 in a row is pretty damned good. Losing two in a row happens.
I don’t think the Yankees need to “start playing better.” They need to win tomorrow and get on a roll again. They’ve been playing very good ball. Today isn’t one of the days.
Wow, what is this? 12 year old central?
It is not still half way thru the season, it is a long season and the yanks are down only 4 games in the loss column.
We will make the playoffs and possibly win the division. The bullpen will get better with a couple of call ups after the ASB and the rotation is not doing that bad. Today Giese did well and even if Wang pitched today, it would not have made any difference when offense did not score at all.
Keep the positive spirit up.
A neat 35 pitch 1st inning for Dice-K!
“I cannot count Matsui as a 4th OF when he can’t play the field.”
I understand his knee is barking, but I really don’t miss Damon as a fielder when Godzilla is prowling LF. He throws accurately and quickly if not super hard. His range seems fine although I wonder why Abreu’s better speed and athleticism could not fit into that role in the future.
if there is one jerk who deserves crap its V
The red sox have 2 WS in the last 4 years, and will win AL East in back to back years. Cashman should be ashamed.
“if there is one jerk who deserves crap its V”
Right, Bell/Confucius/Fake V
Go away, troll.
Maybe we all overrated this team after 7 solid games.
Volquez is a flat out stud so that loss is ok.
A rookie in trouble rubs me the wrong way.
“Everytime I see his name I think why don’t we have Johan Santana?”
Can he hit with RISP? Can he win with 0 runs?
Brandon be fair, Melky .. How about Giambino, the guy is hitting under 160 with RISP..160, but he does not get a mentione from you…………
You know what your right stuart but he actually was a reason why the bases got loaded, What pisses me off is the bottom of this lineup has been strolling like no one’s business, nearly contributing nothing most of this season. I mean I seriously caught myself in mid breath when I said ok Robi whatever you do don’t….. And he did it ! 2 outs and that’s when Melky needed to step up and he just turns into his let me swing a the fastball no matter where it is self. Georgy I can take, Melky and Robi not having good AB w/ RISP, Bobby 2-0 swinging, Alex had a double that started that inning and then his next chance he hits one hard but at somebody, it’s amazing how this sissy, no IQ w/ RISP offense keeps on returning, I’m seriously starting to believe this is what they really are because in pressure spots you always return to your old approach we’re seeing it w/ Robi and Melky and that’s what is pissing me off it spreads.
That bottom of the order has to learn to hit because the big bats are not going to do everytime.
typical V. Calling someone a troll when they rip him. Post ip add.
Go away troll V, you jerk.
stop going to games Rebecca!!
“again teams like the cardinals even the sux they bring guys up and down over and over, it is not a big deal but the yanks never do it. the last guy they did it with was Melky over 3 yrs ago, and I do not think it scared him mentally.”
No, it definitely didn’t scar him, in fact I think his struggles during brief 2005 callup helped him be ready for 2006.
Overall I am a huge Cashman supporter. However if there is one thing that irks me about him, it’s his recalcitrance towards making small but necessary roster changes, especially in the first half of the season. For the past few years it seems like our roster is never optimal as far as having the best 25 men possible until July or so. I would love to see him be a little more proactive with 1st half call ups and send downs. With Cano’s slumps, for example, why not let Gonzalez get a couple starts at 2nd? I can understand hanging onto LaTroy in hopes you can trade him in July to a desperate contender who just needs a guy to eat innings out of the BP, but there is no excuse for Ohlendorf to still be here.
I bet in a month if Olie is still struggling he is gone…but why wait a month? Why not now?
Nick: Santana has the power to make the opponent score negative runs, as he is LEGEND after all
But not when pitching for the Mets. The Mets have a knack for depowering people.
We just may not be that good a team this year. We go thru stretched where we can’t hit at all.
Our 2b is the worst hitter in the league by stats.
Our CF has a .300 OBP.
We got no bench.
“What pisses me off is the bottom of this lineup has been strolling like no one’s business, nearly contributing nothing most of this season. ”
Not only contributing nothing, but actively hurting us. At least Giambi makes pitchers throw strikes most of the time. Melky at the beginning of the season was showing a decent ability to work counts and take walks, but that seems to have disappeared now. Him and Cano, every day it’s 1st pitch swinging. I don’t even want to know what their OBP’s are.
Even when the rest of the lineup hits well it’s noticeable. In games we win 8-0, it would often be 10 or 11-0 if they did something.
Yeh I know that last post of mine has errors but I’m pissed too much to actually give a damn about it. Here we are wishing and hoping Boston and Tampa find a way to lose meanwhile this team keeps on proving why the organization’s focus shouldn’t be about adding a Sabathia or Sheets or w/e else you can think about it should be about how to replace the players that are on that field in the future including that special SS and w/e else they see fit.
Just disgusting how they roll over when they are that close to deliver a big blow.
What has Cashman done to make you a big fan of his BBB??
I don’t see how he has improved this team at all. We’re still living off Stick Michael’s moves.
Really. Jeter, Posada, Rivera, Pettitte,
Cashman traded for A-Rod only after the Bosotn ownership cheaped out.
He signed Giambi for a huge deal. Matsui only wanted to come to the Yanks.
I am not seeing where he has done anything good. And don’t tell me farm system.
He became GM in 98. By 2005 it was the worst system in the game. Sinful.
“Right, Bell/Confucius/Fake V”
I have used about five login names since I started posting here. I started using my initials primarily, then I switched to this login name after a few weeks. A few times, I’ve used names of players and media people to make little joke posts. I’ve never used the login name of another poster.
That’s the bare truth. You don’t believe it? Go send an e-mail to Pete and ask him to check my IP address and look up which posts have been made with which login names using that address. I don’t mind him looking into it at all. Keep accusing me of stealing your login name, and I’ll do it myself and ask him to post the results here.
Having said that, I find it funny that when your login name is being stolen, rather than accuse one of the people you called a moron or imbecile earlier (someone who would have good reason to do this), you accuse the person who was chiding you for doing so. Even though I myself have no apparent bone to pick with you.
The bottom of the order is terrible.
What it kill them to give Gardner a shot in CF?
“What it kill them to give Gardner a shot in CF?”
Melky is a future All star.
Cards putting their leadoff men on again. It’s nice to see Dice-BB’s pre injury sky high WHIP catching up with him. If it had to happen to Carmona, who was on my fantasy team, it’s only right it happen to him too!
The Cardinals can hit even w/o Pujols so let’s just hope they get good pitching today. Dave Duncan greatness!
I don’t get why people complain about names when the names they choose are “V” and “Bob”. Are you people serious?
If you want a unique name make it unique. I’m sure there are some people named Vince that want to just post with V and I am pretty certain there are a ton of Bob’s out there.
Childish crap. You should be embarrassed even crying about it.
OK, let’s go Cardinals lol. 75 games down, 87 to go. Missed the game today, but it sounds like the Yankees offense didn’t help the cause with the RISP situation. Hope they get their act together quickly and resume mashing like they know how to. Glad Giese did his part – every contribution counts in the big picture. No more excuses (facing yet another good young pitcher and/or other assorted rationalizations) and back on track tomorrow. Not in our house, etc. – go Andy, GO YANKS!!!
Unfortunately for ’08 we’re stuck with a core of position players either on the “wrong side of 30″ or underachieving youngsters…coupled with an aging and ‘cobbled together” starting rotation.
Now, with our cash flow and minor league assets this situation is easily remedied for ’09.
IMO, we should relax this summer, see if our “grey beards” can put together a playoff run and plan on a helluva ’09 in the new stadium.
Does anyone not believe this roster will undergo a huge overhaul in the offseason?
Dice K is obviously still hurt. Another rehab start wouldn’t have killed the Sux.
That is what makes these losses so terrible. We got a real shot here this year in a weak AL.
Anyone that says play for next year should stop watching and posting about this team.
Have you seen the AL this year?
This team has a great shot to win it all if they add some small pieces.
Dice-K:
1 IP, 48 PC, 6 H, 3 BB, 1 K, 4 ER (and counting)…SWEET
Confucius,
You are going to make this V guy angry and he may cry.
Glaus grand slam.
Troy Glaus hits granny off of Sox reliever, 8-0 St. Louis.
“What has Cashman done to make you a big fan of his BBB??
I don’t see how he has improved this team at all. …
I am not seeing where he has done anything good. And don’t tell me farm system.”
Why can’t I tell you farm system? Rebuilding the farm bringing it from the 27th or 28th worst system in baseball from top 5-6 doesn’t qualify as improving this team?
What about the fact that as soon as he had the power to do so, he finally hired a guy in Oppenheimer that drafts intelligently? I don’t think I need to remind anyone how horrendously the Yanks drafted prior to that – John Ford Griffin anyone? You think the people who were in charge of drafting before Oppenheimer would have selected Joba? Stolen Mark Melancon in the 9th round? Signed the top int’l FA’s 2 years running? I don’t. Because the draft was not important to them, expensive past-prime free agents were.
If Cashman had not gained the power he did after the 2005 season…well the words don’t even exist to describe how F’d this team would be right now, imo. We wouldn’t be facing the *possibility* of a rebuilding year (I still think Yanks will make playoffs), we’d be facing the certainty of rebuilding years, plural, as in probably 3-5.
“Rebuilding the farm bringing it from the 27th or 28th worst system in baseball from* top 5-6″
er…”TO top 5-6, that is.” edit button ftw.
Like Giese’s attitude. He said he got too confident with that pitch and just tried to blow the guy away. Like I said I think he just got lost up in the moment.
We’ll get to see if he’s the real deal.
Most of the Yankee players, especially pitchers, deal with these games the way they need to. Get back out there and play ball.
“Anyone that says play for next year should stop watching and posting about this team.
Have you seen the AL this year?
This team has a great shot to win it all if they add some small pieces.”
Bro, I’m just saying we all need to RELAX…this year’s team is stuck (to a great extent) due to our aging, big $$$ players…from making too many moves in ’08.
I have faith we’ll get a run going into October…and y’all know anything can happen when the “ghosts of Yankee WS teams past” show up in The Stadium.
IMO, 2009 is an excellent chance to remake this team into the next Yankee Dynasty.
At least it took 8 inning for the other team to score 6 off us. Unless the Sox have a ton of offense stored up the Cards walk away with this one. You know how that confidence and momentum thing works.
Why you can’t tell me farm system, BBB, is because who ran it into the ground from 98-2005?
He’s the GM right? It took him 7 years to realize they should be drafting high end talent and using their financial resources?
Really?
I’m more liable to credit Damon O than Cashman for the past 3 drafts.
Who’d Glaus hit the granny off? Why is Dice-K out/
Why next dynasty?
Have we missed the playoffs the past decade?
You know 4 titles in 12 years is pretty damn good.
Troy Glaus sez – F your ownership and their steroid report, I’ll just hit a grand slam!
Giese is what he is. A solid 5th starter and long man. Our problem is we have 2 of those in the rotation right now with Wang out.
Yeah 12 straight postseasons is also a pretty good run.
Watch the SOx come back here on this rookie.
Will K Cashman wasn’t the reason the farmsystem was ran into the ground, the guy Stick appointed to oversee player draft is why this system was f’d Lynn Gerrit or w/e his name was made horrible draft selections. I don’t even need to post the names google it and you’ll see.
“At least it took 8 inning for the other team to score 6 off us. Unless the Sox have a ton of offense stored up the Cards walk away with this one. You know how that confidence and momentum thing works.”
Go away with that talk. Our pitching had one bad game.
“Why you can’t tell me farm system, BBB, is because who ran it into the ground from 98-2005?
He’s the GM right? It took him 7 years to realize they should be drafting high end talent and using their financial resources?
”
Maybe he didn’t have the power to make those decisions before. We’ll never really know the whole truth of the matter with that, but in Oct 2005 when he was given his extension, he was so emphatic that it come with certain increased responsibilites (ie the power to oversee the draft) that it would seem logical to deduce that not only was he not in charge of these decisions before, but that he didn’t agree with the moves being made by the guys who were in charge.
Who’d Glaus hit the granny off? Why is Dice-K out/
Some 27 yr. old FB/CH/SL throwing scrub, he hung a slider
Brandon, he’s the GM. The responsibility is on his shoulders is it not?
You can’t give him a pass for 7 years and than credit him for 3 good drafts. Doesn’t work that way. If he gets the credit, he gets the blame.
And it took him 7 years to realize the person he put in charge of the draft was terrible and the system needed a fix?
Come on now…
The only way we should add CC is if he can hit 300. We need some of these rich guy to put out
The Sox are going to make this interesting.
This team… as it stands… won’t even get a whiff of the wild card. Todays, uninspired performance proved beyond a doubt that what we’re seeing is a reincarnation of the 1965 season.
And also, part of the reason the farm was shot by 2005 was that the Yankees kept trading their prospects for old washed up players. Cashman may have been behind a few of those but we know he was not, for example, behind the Randy Johnson trade. All I’m saying is it’s impossible to assign blame to him for moves that we don’t even know that he was the one to pull the trigger on.
“The only way we should add CC is if he can hit 300.”
Some of us think that he can, especially after given a big contract. But we’re not talking about the same thing, sadly.
“Why next dynasty?
Have we missed the playoffs the past decade?
You know 4 titles in 12 years is pretty damn good”
Sure…but 4 titles in 5 years was much better…
Seriously, we have an unprecedented chance to remake our roster over the next couple of years with a combination of young talent and selected FA signings.
and not on the scale
I’ll play along. I’ll give you the draft, BBB. He recognized he needed to change and to his credit did.
But what else has he done since 2005? I can’t name a pitcher he signed that has been good.
The Bobby A trade? Ok. A straight salary dump by Philly. I liked the Damon signing since it was for 4 years.
But he hasn’t got a lefty for the pen. Hasn’t improved the pen. We should all say some prayers that Rivera is there.
No starting pitcher he has signed or traded for has thrived. I cannot count Andy P since he should never have left in the first place and he was known entity.
And we all know the bench has been horrendous since the late 90′s.
Brandon thanks. I just tracked it on gamecast. Dice-K puts 3 on the rookie pitcher gives it up. Pretty funny. 7ER for Dice-K.
You can’t give him a pass for 7 years and than credit him for 3 good drafts. Doesn’t work that way. If he gets the credit, he gets the blame.
He was never given full autonomy until a few years ago. This is why the last legit Yankee prospect was Ted Lilly and Nick Johnson at that time.
And it took him 7 years to realize the person he put in charge of the draft was terrible and the system needed a fix?
Stick put Gerrit in charge Cashman never had autonomy until 05′ to fix that, enter Damon Oppenheimer to amateur draft selections.
CC hit a HR..
Sox Ace?
Dice-K: 1 IP, 6 H, 7 ER, 3 BB, 1 K………..SWEET
BBB,
He’s the GM. For better or worse he has to take the responsibility for every move. If he really had qualms about certain things he should have quit or made his voice heard.
Like this year with Santana.
We all know he can do it.
Cash has a chance to redeem himself. With more young talent on the way. But does anyone really trust him to pick out pitchers?
The FUTURE is bright for the vaunted NYY…’08 is a transition year and we still got a lot of ball left to play!
Brandon,
Stop drinking the Kool Aid. This has been Cash’s job and team since ’98. If he didn’t like the draft director he could have canned him at any time.
Took him 7 years to finally do it. Really?
Glad he finally got a clue.
Hey guys, just got back.
The game was horrible after Giese’s throw into center field, and I’m not sure the Yankees are going to score ever again when I go to a game.
However, I did sit like two rows behind Laura Posada, who is gorgeous in person (and also really really nice), and the Posada children who were adorable . The daughter kept shouting “da-da” so Jorge would turn an wave.
Alex nearly dropped the Babe Ruth trophy–it was too heavy for him.
Pictures later, am in a desparate need of a shower.
How is it a transition year when we got all stars all over the field?
This should be a 92 win team which would cruise into the playoffs.
My Yankee Brethren,
We have more $$$ than Microsoft, a stocked (pitching) farm system and a lot of “aging” contracts & players coming off the books…the FUTURE is so bright we’ll all need shades!
Hmm, so he did hit a homerun
…Sabathia should pitch from 1st base, that’ll solve all our woes, past, present, and future
But what else has he done since 2005? I can’t name a pitcher he signed that has been good.
Not much, only keep us comepetitive and a playoff team while trying to repair the leaks.
But he hasn’t got a lefty for the pen. Hasn’t improved the pen. We should all say some prayers that Rivera is there.
Not many people can find that LH reliever they are rare you either build them or lose them. We had Damaso Marte but the win now mentality caused us his services and now we’re back to square 1. This is why I suggested getting a guy like Erick Threets or a Franklin Morales and let Rafael Chaves try to work a miracle w/ him.
No starting pitcher he has signed or traded for has thrived. I cannot count Andy P since he should never have left in the first place and he was known entity.
Your right.
And we all know the bench has been horrendous since the late 90’s.
No not true. That is one of Cashman’s strengths the problem is what to do when the guys on the field is not contributing to the offense.
Ohhhhh. That Ortiz PSA was terrible. I’ll give him a pass on his English. But where the heck was the teleprompter? 3 feet right of the camera?
And to hear the crew talking about the ASG voting. Ugh.
“How is it a transition year when we got all stars all over the field?”
Seriously bro,
ARod, Mo and who are all stars???
Seriously…not looking thru pinstripe sunglasses…
mel it’s funny how Tim McCarver makes a 8-2 game for Boston not seem so bad. If I would have just clicked to this game and not look I would swear Boston is winning 12-1 instead of losing 8-2 right now. I love the diagnosis on Ortiz he bypassed surgery doesn’t hear any clicking noises in his wrist yet he hasn’t even take a swing at a ball yet, but everything is rosey sunshine and lollipops w/ gum drops.
here it goes after a loss, the cashman done nothing stuff. yeah 13 yrs in a row in the playofffs a loaded minor leagues(god forbid hey use it).. and most bad contracts adios after this yr. you are correct he has done nothing…
maybe I am a moron but wang and joba seem like starters to me….they were developed internally…..
yeah you are part of the give up on hughes at 21 crowd….the crowd that likes bronson arroyo and other overrpriced 30 yr old crap..
yeah the molina trade for kennad was a bad trade also..
the letting vizciano go for the Bleich move was terrible also. the big unit for viz, ohlendorf, the ag, and jackson trade was terrible also…
the britton for wright move was terrible also. I can go on and on, yeah they did not get the next Paul o’neil in a trade but who else has???
damon for 4 yrs is not bad… matsui 2 contracts not bad, et.. yeah kyle is a crappy signing, smae with wright, igawa, and on and on but I would bet many of the moves were not cash’s….
the britton for wright move was terrible also. I can go on and on, yeah they did not get the next Paul o’neil in a trade but who else has???
The Mets but he has a concussion.
Man you think our offense stinks, be glad you’re not a Dodger fan.
the sux are using smith a 1st game reliever from pawtucket.. cox. melanco, and robertson have better #’s but are stuck in AAA, that is what bothers me about the yanks.
the yare so over the top cautious in bringing up any young guy it is a JOKE. that is my biggest complaint about Cashman, try them if they need more work send them down, not real complicated…..
Can we sign Sabathia to play first?
Rebecca help me out here. You were in Row A but sat two rows behind Posada’s wife? Wouldn’t that put her out on the field?
Brandon Church could not hold O’neills jock strap and his concussion problem should be a real concern. but he has a similar toughness to O’neil…
the yanks also have not looked for a position player in 2 yrs…..this off season position players area whole n=other story. 1b and rf will be wide open and they must get younger nd more athletic, screw abreu at $16 mill per yr and he will be 34, NO THANK YOU….
“But what else has he done since 2005? I can’t name a pitcher he signed that has been good”
That’s because other than Igawa, who was admittedly a huge bust and is indeed a black mark against Cash, what pitchers has he really signed since 2005? All he’s done is bring back Pettitte and re-up with Moose, both of which have been good moves. So in 3 SP’s he’s signed since 05 he’s 2-1, and the 1 isn’t in the rotation losing games for us right now. And while I question thinking Igawa could get MLB hitters out, I do understand the logic in signing him over Lilly. Because if Lilly is bad (as he has been this year in the NL Central) we’re stuck with him in the rotation for better or worse. At least Igawa brings flexibility which is exactly what Cash needed to find while developing 3 young pitchers.
Also as far as the lefty reliever, he tried to get Damaso Marte in the offseason, Pittsburgh asked for Tabata and Kennedy. What should he have done? He’d be a worse GM if he agreed to that. I guess he could have signed Ron Mahay but at the time EVERYONE was looking at Mahay’s high walk totals and saying we’re better off finding a creative solution than giving this guy the multi-year deal that the market dictates.
He isn’t perfect but the fact that he’s managed to keep the ML club competitive while completely rebuilding the farm system is a lot more than most GM’s can say. Some of his work on the farm and with waivers (Joba, Edwar, Bruney, Rasner, and then nonmoves like not trading Melky for Gagne) has already helped the big club so I think it’s pretty reasonable to assume that as the young players continue to develop, we will see them make even more of an impact.
Sorry for the book…this is 1 topic I could prob. argue about all day.
what is going on with jensen lewis and the indians?? is he hurt?
man betencourt is pitching terrible.. the bullpen is a high stakes gamble……
So Rebecca, did you get pictures of Jorge’s wife?
She’s a babe.
Bob(the original): Not only that, but how have the Indians only scored 1 off of Chan Ho Park in 5 innings?
Good point Blargh
rasner off the scrap heap is also a good pickup,, he is 27. will he be a start? obviously not but he is better then karstens and others…..
again the only complaint is they do not use there minor league talent enough…..
use it…..
“If he really had qualms about certain things he should have quit or made his voice heard.”
Well thats kinda what he DID do in ’05 isn’t it? “Give me true GM power or give me freedom.”? And they chose to give him the power, and most of what he’s done with it since has been good. I’m mighty glad they stuck with him rather than hiring a new GM who likely would have caved to the win now pressure of the Tampa faction and signed guys like Barry Zito…
mahay also got a very nice contract… 3 yrs or more and kyle $$$$$$$$$
relief pitchers are almost always a gamble that is why you use young cheap guys for the pen………
Tim,
I believe they added some seats behind home plate to the Stadium a few years ago, so that Row A isn’t the first row anymore.
Jorge’s daughter is 6. That’s a little old to be saying da da. Row A but someone’s two rows in front of you? Are you sure you were at the right game?
Row A but someone’s two rows in front of you? Are you sure you were at the right game?
You ever been to a stadium/arena?
Row A is not usually the first row.
Rebecca, are you saying that you’d like to see sabathia anchor the infield at first base? Couldn’t have chosen a more likely candidate for that job. He could anchor the Queen Mary.
GB7,
Isn’t that why we picked up Ponson? He makes certainly fills in a big chunk of the gap between the SS and the second baseman…
Could be, Storm. Ponson fills a large chuck of Aruba, too, whenever he’s there. The Aruban government has tp suspend tourist visits when he’s home, to make room for him and make sure there’s enough food on the island.
I wonder how much of today’s loss came from the let down of yesterday.
To say the Yankees were just beating up on lesser teams isn’t quite fair. What gets me though is how it seems the Yankee batters seem to be all tied together. One starts slumping they all do.
Cano is a waste. They really need to sit him down for a few games. Melky as well. When they come up you figure here are two easy outs. Its no wonder they can’t score runs when they are looking like a poor National League lineup with those two in it.
The Reds aren’t a good team, and while the pitching was decent, it wasn’t that good.
Geez, so much for the “yankee fans are knowledgeable” perception.
Apparently, here are some seriously ignorant fans out there.
The tourism industry in Aruba always takes a hit when he’s home. Apparently, when he’s on the beach he’s the only one getting a tan!
Speaking of shooting fish in a barrel, have you ever tried shooting fish NOT in a barrel? Its much more difficult and not nearly as much fun.
Yep. The St. Louis Cardinals. That’s the team with 10 World Series Championships that Boston has to win 3 more to catch up with in pursuit of a team with 26 to their count.
No poster on this board will be alive to see either team catch the Yankees.
Realistic St. Louis fans know this. Delusional Boston fans don’t.
Re: Drew
“He is the most valuable player of the majors in the month of June”
Didn’t realize they gave out MVP’s each month. lol.
Watch St. Louis blow this game.
Tim: There were two rows of folding chairs in front of me.
Storm, never tried shooting fish anywhere, but, have gone fishing with hand grenades. Works quite well, too.
Cardinal pitching got out of the inning. DAVE DUNCAN GREATNESS! (Srsly, I love him and Brother Chris, can’t even look at either one of them w/o remembering the good ole days last summer of Shelley’s post homerun elbow banging mania.)
GB7,
I hope there was no coral around.
Now I’m being impersonated too?
I feel violated.
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Laura Posada
Not much coral in the Mekong River, Mel. Had no desire to try that for anything living in the Tigris or Euphrates Rivers.
GB – I hear there is good sturgeon in the Iraq delta -
Just a question – are we doomed to a Ponson start or is there any chance that we can avoid it given Geise solid performance.
Good deal, GB7.
Your life sounds…exotic. lol.
TK, we’re doomed. We need six starters next week.
TK,
Despite the results, Geise has earned his next start. Ponson is insurance and depending on how the double headers line up, an option to “help” the club. Seriously, we need to give the guy a chance. Until he fails. Then we can rip him.
Pictures from today’s game
TK, the problem with the food chain in Iraq is that Americans/Australian/British forces can’t deal with the bacteria and other organisms . It will really tear you up. Same thing with the water and dairy products. The delta was also unhealthy for other reasons.
Rebecca,
Great pix! Saw that you chose to wear the Yankee shirt instead of the white tube top.
TK, I think Ponson gets the start out of necessity. The kids on the farm aren’t rady, mostly because they just aren’t ready or not healthy. The best of the young pitching is at AA and even moreso, in the FSL and Sally Leagues. I doubt Ponson would get a chance if not for the double header, though. Giese, again, mostly out of necessity, will get at least another start.
***kids on the farm aren’t rady….more importantly, they’re not ready.****
mel: I thought about it, but it was just too hot–I’m of Eastern European Jewish descent. I roast.
GB7: Everyone I know that’s been to Israel has gotten sick from drinking the water there.
Mel, I’m not sure how…”exotic” my life has been, but, definately has been eventful…but, I wouldn’t change a thing about it. I’ve had a great life, overall.
Good God Rebecca!!
You don’t play around do ya?
AWESOME SEATS!!
Well done.
Ps…I don’t think you’re allowed to go to games until the team has a two game lead over the Redsox so maybe a new HD TV is in order?
Seriously though, awesome seats how much they cost you?
I’ve wanted seats like that but every time I look they’re $400 each.
yeah, Rebecca, that’s a problem in most of the middle east and Asia. Went to Australia and couldn’t believe that eggs were left out on the shelves at home and in the stores…no refrigeration…people eating raw bacon. Can’t deal with that.
Yu Darvish: My friend IMed me about 11 last night and asked me if I was going to the game today. I said I wasn’t planning on it, he said he had tickets, I said what time are you picking me up?
Alas, I still have tickets to two other games this year…
(It’s so weird; last year I was 3-0! What did I do wrong!?)
Sorry that should’ve read…
Is it me or does it seem that every time you turn on a national broadcast of the “REIGNING WORLD CHAMPION REDSOX” you get a 4 hour ass kissing parade from the announcers?
my bad
In order to change your luck, Rebecca, may I suggest that you invite a guy that wears a funny, little green hat as an escort.
We need to place all of these posts in a time capsule (Word document) so at the end of the year when the Yankees make the playoffs we can all go back and have a nice big laugh. Maybe we can even have a party with lots of goodies and each person reads one “reconstruct the Yankees” post from the time capsule. Then, we’ll tally up all the negative posts and the poster with the most “SEASON IS OVER” posts gets sent to Boston and has to convert to a Red Sox fan. It’ll be loads of fun. And then we can flick on the TV and watch World Series game 1 with our new power pitcher ace, Joba Chamberlain pitching. Good idea?
Rebecaa Optimista
Is your “Friend”s last name, Trump or Crystal or Giuliani by any chance? hah.
Sick tickets you could literally see each players expressions.
The Arod in his stance picture is really cool.
Good for you.
You gotta wear a thong for the remaining few games you’ve got tickets to.
That should reverse this curse you’ve brought upon yourself.
Thaaaaaaaaaaaa…REDsox…. LOOOOOOOSE.
Yu Darvish no it isn’t you. I still want to know who on the Red Sox keeps having sex with McCarver. I’ve never heard more fawning over the Red Sox by any announcer. It’s sickening.
Oh yeah. Good job Cards.
Yu Darvish: Hah, that had more to do with my camera’s zoom than anything else.
And I don’t to thongs.
For anyone.
Okay, maybe the Turkish goalkeeper. And Gerard Butler. And Johnny Depp.
But seriously. No thongs.
It is only 2 losses. Relax people.
Paulio these people don’t relax when the Yankees win. You expect them to relax when the Yankees lose?
“relief pitchers are almost always a gamble that is why you use young cheap guys for the pen………”
It helps if the young pitchers are good doesn’t it?
Rebecca nice pictures. Sorry you had to sit through a loss.
I know this board is the blogging leader in ignorant and negative and pessimistic fans. But we have to try and calm down the semi rational ones.
Did CC hurt himself running around the bases???
Seriously. We really could use him now and the next 6 years. Giese goes into the pen to add to the pen. Melancon comes up. We got a shot here if we do the right things.
Hitting in the clutch wouldn’t hurt the winning cause either.
mark: I think I have some serious karma issues. Or something.
JB, I would have turned violent if it meant hitting in the clutch today.
Rebecca,
Smart move. MLB was reminding us all day to Play Safe Sun or something like that.
Well, at least Giese had a better day than Dice…
Now we just need to have Tampa, O’s, and Oakland lose. Even though we should be worrying about ourselves.
Ohlendork is terrible… haven’t we learned that throwing hard doesn’t = good? He doesn’t know where the ball is going, and must lead the world in inherited runners scored and wild pitches.
The thing that this pen needs is a groundball guy with a good pedigree. Our pen right now is constructed with a bunch of guys who throw hard with shakey control, mediocre secondary pitches, give up flyballs and HRs, and questionable mental makeup/mechanics– all of them are of the “bend but don’t break” variety.
Robertson needs to be up here instead of Ohlendorf. Patterson needs to be up here instead of Traber. And eventually Melancon/Cox need to be up here. Why is MM still in AA? He has video game numbers and has already pitched 50 innings.
Mel, it was HOT today. Like. HOT. I pretty much went through an entire thing of sunscreen.
“Well, at least Giese had a better day than Dice…”
Loss is a loss. Style points mean zipity doo da.
Still, pretty nice effort by Giese.
“Robertson needs to be up here instead of Ohlendorf. Patterson needs to be up here instead of Traber. And eventually Melancon/Cox need to be up here. Why is MM still in AA? He has video game numbers and has already pitched 50 innings.”
Wouldn’t get too married to Eastern League numbers. IPK had video game numbers in the EL. Not sure I’d trust Robertson. His numbers aren’t much different than what Edwar was posting down there, and I definitely don’t trust Edwar in a big spot. Like Edwar, Robertson’s walk rate is poor.
Melancon’s different. Hard thrower with command. That’s an 8th inning guy and that’s Melancon. He should be in AA now and hopefully contributing to the big club by mid-late July.
*he should be in AAA
Silver lining…We will stomp the Reds tomorrow and the BoSux will get swept out by the Cards…so we will lose 2 out of 3 to the Dreads and still pick up a whole game in the loss column to our arch enemies ! SWEET !
Ohlendorf would be doing much better if Girardi knew how to utilize him properly.
He is not a long man. He is more of a set-up man with a hard sinker and a hard slider but Girardi uses him once a week.
Look at Wang, if he gets too much rest – he doesn’t pitch well because the ball is up in the zone and he can’t spot it as well.
Same thing with Ohlendorf. He was much better when he was getting regular work. Instead of letting Mo pitch in the 8-0 game the other night against SD, he should have given Ohlendorf the ball.
Ohlendorf might end up getting sent down and that might be the best thing for him because he’ll get regular work. Girardi’s not using him and his command is going to suffer.
When he is on, Ohlendorf is downright nasty. And he has very good control as well. It’s tough to get into a rhythm when he doesn’t get many chances to get the ball.
For a smart guy like Girardi, he certainly hasn’t impressed me the way he’s managed the pen.
Also, Robertson may have a lot of strikeouts in the minors, but he gives up way too many walks. He may get away with that against minor league hitters, but major league hitters would make him pay regularly.
So who killed the thread?
Or is it just that I have no life?
Radio killed the thread
From Chad Jennings:
Feel free to start speculating on this bit of news. Jason Lane is out of the lineup for the second straight day, and Dave Miley says he’s healthy. It’s curious that the Yankees just opened a spot on the 40-man, then stopped playing Lane in Triple-A. I don’t know that there’s any connection, but it’s at least noteworthy. Could be something is in the works, could be nothing. I’ll try to talk to Lane after the game and let you know if he says anything.
I thought the spot was for Ponson?
“So who killed the thread?
Or is it just that I have no life?”
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Maybe you need to wear a thong more often?
Ohlendork?
Sorta funny I guess.