Game 76: Reds at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 22, 2008 
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YANKEES (40-35)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Matsui DH
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Pettitte LHP
Andy Pettitte (7-5, 4.29) vs. the Cincinnati hitters.
RHP Johnny Cueto (5-7, 5.19) has never faced any of the New York hitters.
Notes: Thanks to Brian Heyman for calling in the lineup. … The Yankees have scored four runs in the last three games. They are 20 of 93 (.215) with two extra-base hits. They also are 4 for 27 (.148) with RISP. … Bobby Abreu is 2 for 33 in his last eight games. … Melky Cabrera is 3 for 22 in his last six games. … A-Rod has a nine-game hitting streak (14 of 32) and Jeter a 10-game streak (13 of 41). … Andy Pettitte’s last two starts: 15 innings, 10 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 15 strikeouts.
Enjoy the game.
UPDATE, 1:33 p.m.: The Reds activated INF Jeff Keppinger off the disabled list today and designated Andy Phillips for assignment. Alas, poor Andy. At least he knows the way to the airport from the Stadium.
Dan Giese was just on wfan. Sounded like a really nice guy. Type of guy you’d love to root for. Hopefully he continues to do well!
Time for Andy to play the role of stopper again.
I’m not in NY, so for anyone who is, what’s the weather like? Any chance of a rain delay? Trying to decide whether I want to stay up and watch or catch the archive.
hmmm my first post didn’t show up.
Dan Giese was just on the radio. Sounded like a really nice guy, the kind you want to root for.
Bench Cano, I will not forgive him for swinging at the first pitch yesterday with the bases loaded and popping out to the catcher.
This guy is out to lunch 24/7.
Hope that the Yankee bats show up today. They need to take at least one from Cincinnati.
The Phil Hughes Debate.
http://www.pinstripealley.com/.....reaks-down
Could really use a Yankee win today. At least I’m not going to the game though, so they have a reasonable shot!
Well it is raining at the moment, light rain, i’d think they’d play through it since it is the only time the Reds come in.
I suggest that you’re not any kind of curse Rebecca, just a victim of bad timing.
What goes around comes around still applies.
Angel-
It’s overcast and windy right now.. rain is expected later today, but they should (i hope) get the game in without delay.
Come on bats – lets get it going for all the guys like me, down under staying up until the small hours.
I’m predicting 7 strong innings from Andy and the bottom half to deliver… ever the optimist!
Thanks Jennifer
and Barry
JC where are you?
No longer raining, I think you should be okay. There might be a shower coming through during the game, but they’ll still play.
Yanks Angel
North Sydney…. Officially the windiest, baseball deserted place in the world. And you?
Melky Cabrera is 3 for 22 in his last six games
BREETTTTTTT GARDENERENERERERERERRRRRRR
Bobby also hasn’t hit too much since he hit the Twins pitcher in the head.
JC,
if you’re feeling a bit energetic, there are a couple of decent baseball clubs around Sydney and the Sydney suburbs. During my student days in Melbourne, we used to spend many weekends duking it out with SydneyUni. It’s not quite the major leagues, but some decent competition.
I would recommend the lineup could be like this
1.Damon(L)-(.327/.395/.486)
2.Posada(SW)-(.303/.389/.489)
3.Matsui(L)-(.324/.406/.462)
4.Rodriguez(R)-(.333/.413/.463)
5.Giambi(L)-(.260/.394/.564)
6.Jeter(R)-(.278/.333/.379)
7.Abreu(L)-(.270/.333/.432)
8.Cabrera(SW)-(.253/.312/.372)
9.Cano(L)-(.229/.273/.327)
We need RISP and we need more scores.
“Johnny Cueto has never faced any of the New York hitters”
Should read , None of the New York hitters have faced Johnny Cueto, and that spells trouble for the Yankees!
They would be better off facing the Santanas, Peavy’s, Webbs, Sabathia’s, etc than these pitchers they’ve never seen. What is it with this fact?
Yankees have forgotten how to sacrifice runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs. Thinking all the time hit the ball hard and hope it’s a homer! When they were successful in 96, they played a NL brand of baseball.
Now we see Mussina pitching effectively, Giambi doing better, Farnsworth improving and what worries me here is that the Yankees will resign these players, when their bloated contracts are done this fall!
I’d like to be optimistic, but if they’re lucky to make the playoffs, I don’t see them advancing to the World Series.
Marvellous work Zach
I appreciate that but I’m almost fully converted into the Australian sporting lifestyle now… i.e. I’ve given up every other sport in favour of Golf and late starts to the working day!
Thanks again
Im running out of patience with melky.. i really wanna see what gardner can do
BBP-Why not try that lineup. Girardi has tried new lineups until lately almost every day!
Oh shush. Last year we lost two games to the Giants and got swept by the Rockies and still made the playofffs.
Thundering here.
“Bench Cano, I will not forgive him for swinging at the first pitch yesterday with the bases loaded and popping out to the catcher.
This guy is out to lunch 24/7.”
Yes, bench Cano, he of the .364/.417/.455 line in his last 7 games (including his 0/4 yesterday). WHAT A BUM!
(sarcasm) I think they should DFA Abreu and bring up Brett Gardner to play RF, that’s what the Yankees need.
JC – I’m in Melbourne, well just outside of Melbourne. Been here for 6 years. I grew up in Alabama, in the same town Robert Horry is from, but my husband was born here and we moved here to be closer to his family. That goodness for MLB.TV because they sure don’t show enough basbeball games on TV here.
“Yankees have forgotten how to sacrifice runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs. Thinking all the time hit the ball hard and hope it’s a homer! When they were successful in 96, they played a NL brand of baseball.”
Thinking “hit the ball hard” is exactly what they should be doing. Sacrifice bunts are stupid unless you’re playing for one run very late in the game and have a poor hitter at the plate.
“I appreciate that but I’m almost fully converted into the Australian sporting lifestyle now… i.e. I’ve given up every other sport in favour of Golf and late starts to the working day!”
Aaaaahhhh…Nothing like waking up at midday and watching some local domestic cricket on Channel 9. Before you know it, its 7 hours later, you’re drunk on the couch, and there is an advertisement on television with some dude screaming at you to come down to the Sydney Exhibition Centre to buy some carpets.
good times!
Sacrifice bunts are not stupid, when your team sucks at delivering with RISP!
“Yankees have forgotten how to sacrifice runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs. Thinking all the time hit the ball hard and hope it’s a homer! When they were successful in 96, they played a NL brand of baseball.”
The 1996 Yankees had 41 sacrifice hits in 162 games. That’s hardly a lot.
In a close game? Yeah, it has its place, but wasting outs is usually a bad idea.
That National League style of play is largely due to the pitcher’s spot being a black hole.
“Sacrifice bunts are not stupid, when your team sucks at delivering with RISP!”
How does wasting a chance to hit with RISP (man on 2nd) by giving up an out to get another chance to hit with RISP supposed to improve your hitting with RISP?
“How does wasting a chance to hit with RISP (man on 2nd) by giving up an out to get another chance to hit with RISP supposed to improve your hitting with RISP?”
Because Joe Morgan says it’s good, and he was on the Big Red Machine.
Zach
I’ve yet to make it through watching cricket. Tried twice and literally fell asleep on the couch
it has been pointed out by some of our knowledgeable posters that brian cashman has changed the latin american scouting situation since he took over full control of the team, but i have to say i notice quite a difference in the three cincy starters from our young starters.
the red have started three young pitchers of color in a row( with thompson being from maryland). even given the time it takes to turn around the system, is cashman focusing to much on southern cal,fla, and texas .
i’m not making a racial point here, but a point of where scouting is being focused.
is damon oppenheimer,being a so cal product, focusing too much on that area?
is he ( even though it’s said to be better since cashman too over) focusing enough on latin america for starting pitchers?
i say this because cano,melky, tabata, and montero are offensive players we know of. montero was signed for two million. why no starters? has this kind of money been spent on starting pitchers in latin america?
something seems askew to me that simply saying it takes time to develop 16 year olds doesn’t explain. we hear of tabata and montero.
we’re not hearing of any equivalent latin american starting pitchingin the yankee system.
maybe it’s just an anomaly or maybe the yankees aren’t doing a good job in latin america scouting starting pitchers.
if cincinnati can do it surely the yankees can.
http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player....._id=456501
Okay V and Whozat- You’ve convinced me. Does someone know where we rank in the AL with RISP and 0 outs, 1 out, two outs?
YanksAngel,
you have to make sure you adequately supplied to enough cheap local beer to make it through an entire game…Victoria Bitter wont do. You have to go cheaper. I’m talking Melbourne Bitter. The combination of a 12 pack of Melbourne Bitter and a blazing hot 40 degree day always did the trick for me.
ps…what part of Melbourne are you in? I work for a firm based out of Fitzroy, but based in New York now, so I only get to pop into Melbourne a few times a year nowadays. Just enough time to get my fix of good coffee.
trade kennedy,cano,melky and 2 prospects for sabathia and grady sizemore.next year they could have sabathia,wang,joba 1,2,3 with hughes,sanchez,mcutchen,horne,aceves,pettitte,moose and brackman possibly at the end of 2009 or in 2010.gardner 4th outfielder or ajax,get a real first baseman or move posada there or montero.
anyone know who the yanks are going to pitch on the Friday afternoon game at home against the Mets ?
” Sacrifice bunts are stupid unless you’re playing for one run very late in the game and have a poor hitter at the plate.”
sacrifice bunts are really stupid when the hitter can’t bunt well, and that is almost everyone on the yankees.
the twins can use the sacrifice bunt more often because everyone in the organization learns how to bunt. if the yankees don’t teach it in the system, how is the manager supposed to use it?
let hope dem yankee hitters can bring me in today… i hat being stranded
Probably Sir Ponson.
Am at game in 31. Great day for a ballgame if the weather holds. Rodriguez looked scary good in bp!
mikethemike – it hasn’t been announced yet. Only that Giese will pitch one of the 2 games on Friday.
Zach
We live in Caroline Springs but I used to work in Kew, not far from Fitzroy.
Oh, and I can stand the Australian beer even less than the cricket.
Australian Rules Footy is a different story, I’ve gotten into it, but the cricket is a lost cause to me
mikethemike – Sidney Ponson(Day Game), Dan Giese(Night Game)
“if cincinnati can do it surely the yankees can.”
Cincy didn’t scout and sign Volquez. Thompson was, as you admitted, an American draft pick. There’s a lot more white kids in America that play baseball than any other ethnic group. So…when you go to draft the best available talent when your turn comes up…it’ll probably be a white kid.
They missed on king felix in 04. They changed their approach after that. None of those kids have gotten past A ball yet. Because, mostly, they were 16 or 17 when drafted. There’s not some systematic ignorance of Latin American players or other players of color. Most 18 year olds NEVER make the bigs, especially pitchers. Trying to prod any meaning out of the fact that the Yanks don’t, currently, have any super-promising black or latino starting pitchers in AAA or the bigs is just pointless when they only really committed to Latin American scouting 3 or 4 years ago.
Jairo Heredia, real young latin american kid in A ball. Chris Garcia is another minority pitcher with great stuff—but he just can’t stay healthy and has work ethic problems.
Randy, go back two posts and I think you’ll find your latin american pitcher that everyone is fawning over.
ok thanks for the info on the friday day game starter
“They missed on king felix in 04. ”
And it’s not that they didn’t know about him; they did. They just didn’t put in the time/money to convince him to sign with them. I mean, these kids get to choose. You can’t underestimate how important finding them early and building a personal connection with them is. Having only recommitted to doing this sort of thing 3-4 years ago, it is unsurprising that no MLB or AAA level fruit has yet been borne.
Not hitting with RISP is not a Cano or Cabrera problem. Its been a teamwide problem all season.
Abreu is slumping. Giambi is hitting under .200 with RISP. Jeter is hitting under .200 with RISP since Cabrera smashed his hand with a pitch.
The only guys in the lineup hitting with RISP are Damon and Arod.
Unfortunately the Yankees, like every team in MLB, don’t have enough players in AAA to replace guys who are slumping.
Brett Gardner? He just ended a 3-40 slump with 3 hits last night. I hardly think his cold bat is an upgrade over Cabrera’s at this time.
Like all veteran teams, you have to hit your way out of your slumps. Its the only option the Yankees have at this time.
Randy,
The Yankees have spent a ton of money the last few years in Latin America. Not just on pitching but, also with position players.
Those results won’t be known for at least 2-3 more years because most of the kids signed were between the ages of 15-17 years old.
“Randy, go back two posts and I think you’ll find your latin american pitcher that everyone is fawning over.”
Aceves is a mexican league vet with great pitchability and middling stuff. He’s not the kind of guy Randy’s talking about.
why people come down on giambi as “not a real first basemen” is beyond me. he’s in the top two most productive first baseman in the league. leave your biases behind!
Brandon (whenever you get here): hear anything lately from Inoa’s camp?
JC….used to live in Kirribilli myself….
i sat in 32 very good seats!
I think its almost time to make a move for CC. Dont wanna wait too long or he will be gone, or the price will go up. He is starting to look like a CY Young again, and we could really use him down the stretch. Not to mention they wouldnt want Hughes since he will be sitting until August. Hes a half year rental which means they wont ask for too much. We really dont need Rasner anymore, Its Giese’ turn to give the rotation a try. Not that a trade if it happened would happen before the deadline.
Bring Gardner up
You know what I hate about the Yankees losing? The sofa scouts who come out and post because they KNOW what to do. Not SJ44 or CB, and there are a few good posters here. But some idiot just suggested trading Cano, Mely, and two or three prospects for Sabathia and Sizemore. Okay, maybe that’s not crazy, but here is what is. He actually thinks Brackman could be in the rotation next year.
Heaven almighty.
This is what is terrible about the internet. it allows everyone to know the names of minor league players and suddenly everyone knows that they would be a better GM because they KNOW that a pitcher who just had TJ surgery and was just drafted last year could be ready to go and contribute in the major leagues NEXT year.
Is there a way to ignore all posters except SJ$$, CB and a few others so I don’t have to read through all the crap?
CC isn’t on the trade market at this time.
Can’t make a move on a player that isn’t available.
I think randy is talking about really young future innings eaters — like Livan Hernandez.
David….you have to learn to appreciate the comedic content provided by people like that…..perhaps Cole will br ready next year as well to join Brackman…after all he pitched really well as a HS Senior….
BX.
I never thought about that. Cole will be totally ready to go and Bleich, hell he could start next week, right?
Sidney Ponson is a big, fat slug… the Aruban version of Hideki Irabu.
SJ44, please don’t wait so long in between posts. I keep refreshing hoping to see something new from you to bring sanity back to my eyes.
Honestly, I do love your insight. Thanks.
On the pregame show they just said that Geise will pitch the first game on Friday. The starter for Game 2 is up in the air – Girardi said he and Cashman will discuss it this week. Sone of the options are Ponson, Alan Horne and Kei Igawa.
Pettitte will pitch on Saturday.
It was also raining at tbe Stadium.
“Is there a way to ignore all posters except SJ$$, CB and a few others so I don’t have to read through all the crap?”
What I do is read the poster’s name, and then just keep going if it’s a troll
There isn’t, no. It’d probably be pretty easy to put together a greasemonkey script to do a blacklisting kind of thing, but I’m supposed to be writing, not coding
I love that people get on the $460k a yr Melky for a slump hitting 9th but let Abreu at $16 mill hitting third slide.
Melky is 24, a good not great player… I just do not understand the stupidity….
the guy’s that make the big $$$$$$$$$$$ are suppose to produce more, get it???????????????????
Thanks Whozat. I normally do that, but when there’s 900-1000 posts it takes so long! haha
I’m going to the game Sat at Shea. Will be my 2nd time seeing pettitte this year. Saw his first start of the year vs the Rays.
Was at Shea last year when Rasner got hurt. Saw Rasner pitch a gem against the Royals couple weeks ago. No run support, but you all know that. Good to see him back and doing well.
I got really excited about Giese yesterday. If he keeps that up, they don’t need a trade.
Yes, now that Stanfurd has been bounced from the CWS, Bleich should be available to pitch in the double-header. Don’t be skeptical, he’s a better option than Ponson.
2 plays that have hurt this weekend a ton are. Friday the Damon in the lights play;; really 3 unearned runs and the Giese play yesterday..
when you are not hitting every mistake comes back to haunt you…..
they need to hit with RISP, 13th in the league in RISP..Terrible………..
No Stuart, you’re wrong.
Guys who just got a big contract at 2B, yet fail to make the routine plays because he gets lazy and fails to produce at the plate because he has no discipline. Guys like that get the pass because “he’s going to come out of it”.
Melky, he sucks at the plate because we’re paying him so little. Maybe if we paid him more he wouldn’t suck so much, just “slump” and he’d come out of it. (Sarcasm)
You know, if you look at other teams’ RISP numbers, the Yankees aren’t that horrible.
“Melky is 24, a good not great player”
That’s the thing…he’s NOT necessarily good. He’s well below average offensively, and his D brings his contribution up to a tad below average overall.
Abreu, also doing poorly right now. However, there’s reason to believe that he will return to his normal form. It’s not like he’s striking out all the time or anything. His peripherals are ok. But yes, he’s slumping. Melky, on the other hand, is looking horrendous at the plate all the time. And does not have the track record to indicate that there’s reason to believe he’ll pull out of it. He’s young, yes…but he needs to show signs of snapping out of it. He’s a black hole in this lineup, and he’s not so stellar on D that he’s still a net positive.
Rebecca,
That’s because we watch every at-bat of every Yankee game.
“The Yankees have spent a ton of money the last few years in Latin America. Not just on pitching but, also with position players.
Those results won’t be known for at least 2-3 more years because most of the kids signed were between the ages of 15-17 years old.”
sj-
my question is then why do we hear of tabata and montero, but not of any equivalent starters? they were signed at a young age, yet we hear of them. now maybe it’s simply because it’s such a small sample that a starter hasn’t emerged as a prospect.
if they are on the way great, but the sooner that we start hearing of them the better.
being a yankee fan growing up in the 50′s i have high standards. if the yankees are going to be focusing on developing their own players they should strive to be the best in every area in the world at finding players.
so far from what i can see , the same results are not visible in latin america for starting pitching as it is for offensive players like tabata and montero. but like you said it may be on the way.
i’m just always skeptical of being told something is coming a few years down the road.
“Guys who just got a big contract at 2B, yet fail to make the routine plays because he gets lazy”
That’s selective memory. He’s actually been REALLY good on defense all season. He’s got a whopping six errors. Sure, he botched that toss the other day, but in general, he’s been really good on defense.
Also, again…Cano HAS shown long stretches in which he’s been an incredible hitter. Large swaths of the season. Melky has put together a couple of solid stretches in his career, but he’s gotten worse each season.
“Is there a way to ignore all posters except SJ$$, CB and a few others so I don’t have to read through all the crap?â€
whozat-
why do you assume you’re one of the” few others”? lol
Weather does not look good.
Yeah, dark, thunder, rain. does not look good.
“now maybe it’s simply because it’s such a small sample that a starter hasn’t emerged as a prospect.”
Yep.
“why do you assume you’re one of the†few othersâ€? lol”
I didn’t. I just asserted how _I_ ignore the people I don’t wish to listen to. I didn’t tell him how to specially locate my posts, now did I?
Let’s hope that Cano is NOT the exception to the old adage of you are what you are on the back of your baseball card. His is pretty good in his very short major league career.
BX. 12 Fordham Road
Great Stuff.. Currently logging onto MLB Tv direct from Milsons Point just a stones throw from Kirribilli….Even Johnny could throw the stome that far!
Lets Go Yankees!
Hello Yankee nation – I’m trying to track down where Brad Suttle is in the farm system. He was a U-Texas middle infielder picked last year.
Any idea where he is?
Nice snag by Giambi.
That’s a good way to start a ball game.
Nice easy 1st inning for Andy.
TK,
Try milb.com for all the minor leaguers. Suttle was at Hawaii Winter League last year. Took forever to get his first hit, but finished strong. Saw on one of the minor league sites that he was doing okay.
Don’t tell him, but Andy’s got a no-no going right now!
“Hello Yankee nation – I’m trying to track down where Brad Suttle is in the farm system. He was a U-Texas middle infielder picked last year.
Any idea where he is?”
Charleston. Search on MiLB.com
Good start, now get the bats rolling early!!
cool – thanks guys!
Andy’s a GB pitcher. He’s not…
Well, let’s go Yankee bats. How about actually scoring a run this game? Preferably more than that. Like, say, nine. I’m okay with nine runs.
(not that I am plotting to replace Cano or anything)
ahem . . . cough.
Brandon (whenever you get here): hear anything lately from Inoa’s camp?
Last I heard was on Wedensday night he still hopes that NY makes the best offer. The decision lies on the hands of Mark Newman, Brian Cashman and Carlos Rios. Show him the money he signs don’t and you may see Billy Beane or Brian Sabean or worse Omar Minaya steal a talented kid.
Can someone please tell me what the Circle Change pitch is?
They keep saying how the Reds pitchers are throwing it and that their pitching coach teaches it.
JC….the Kirribilli used to be my local, great pub. I lived in Sydney for 3 years and not a single day goes by that I do not wish I was back there. Long term plan has me retiring down the coast of NSW….
“ahem . . . cough.”
With Suttle? You don’t think he’s really an option at this point.
Fran –
Mario Soto was a good pitcher for the Reds in the 80′s and teaches it to the whole system.
as for the circle-change:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Circle_change
If your last name is “Pole”, WHY would you EVER name your son Richard?
Is anyone playing the Dick Pole drinking game?
whozat –
no – I understand that Suttle is years away. The writing at the time of the draft was that once we picked suttle he became the best infield prospect in the organization (per baseball america.com)
I went to UT and I hadn’t heard anything about Brad since he was picked last year.
I know it’s really, really, really immature, but I can’t get over the name of the Red’s pitching coach.
Yeah.
And just because I said that A-Rod is going to strike out.
Like that.
A circle change can also be used to provide screwball-type movement but without the stress placed on the arm by a traditional screwball.
Hope that answers your question, and it’s the pitch Alex just struck out on.
” I just asserted how _I_ ignore the people I don’t wish to listen to. I didn’t tell him how to specially locate my posts, now did I?”
no you didn’t.
should i take it as a compliment that you don’t ignore my posts?
on second thought, don’t answer that.
okay, enough bantering.time for work. this blog is costing me money. it goes without saying the yankees need a win today.
It might be a lonnnnnnnng day we’re catching Cueto after a good start and no pressure on him.
Okay, Noah’s Flood going on over here. Don’t know how long it holds off from the Bronx, but seriously, I gotta go find myself an ark.
“The writing at the time of the draft was that once we picked suttle he became the best infield prospect in the organization ”
I think that’s more an indictment of the Yankee IF prospects than anything else :-/
I wouldn’t mind if they used some of the pitching depth to acquire some more interesting middle IF prospects. Problem is that you rarely see prospect-for-prospect deals. They’d have to send a guy with some MLB experience.
Take your index and thumb
Make an “ok”
Place “o” in ok on outside of ball
Wrap remaining fingers around ball
Throw with same velocity as a fastball, and same arm slot
Thanks for the explanation of the circle change. Really didn’t need a demonstration of how it works by seeing Alex strikeout on it!
North Sydney is really windy? lol, you need to get out in the world more, JC.
So whos going to forget how many outs there are today?? Maybe Dusty Baker this time?
no problem
don’t tip your pitches either.
If they see you digging in your glove, that’s a give away.
“I wouldn’t mind if they used some of the pitching depth to acquire some more interesting middle IF prospects.”
It has to be a little depressing if you are an infielder in the yankee farm system (especially on the left side of the diamond) b/c you know the big club is tied-in to Jete and A-Rod for the next several years.
I agree that the next natural step for the yanks is to start to build up the offensive pipeline with prospects just like they seem to have done a great job building a quality large batch of arms (more lefties please!!!)
I vote for Adam Dunn, since according to that clown in Toronto, he doesn’t even like the game anyway
oy Andy. Strike zone. Find it. Thanks.
Randy,
You hear of Montero and Tabata because they are in A and AA respectively.
You don’t hear of the others because they are in the Dominican League and the Gulf Coast League.
Not a lot of people are writing about basically high school kids (in age and maturation levels) that are playing in short season leagues.
Once those kids make their way to A ball you will hear more about them.
Two outfielders to keep an eye on who are in the Dominican League right now:
Kelvin DeLeon, 17, 6-2, 180. RH hitter. He was the crown jewel of all of the undrafted Latin American free agents last year. So far, he hasn’t disappointed. Really good OF and his bat is more advanced than other kids his age.
I expect him to have a great chance to be in the GCL or perhaps even Charleston next year.
Eduardo Sosa, 17, 5-11, 155. LH hitter. More of a leadoff type of kid with great speed. Has some pop with the bat but, his ceiling may be more of a leadoff nature as he matures. Very athletic kid.
Not a ballyhooed signing. However, scouts I know who have seen him think he has a lot of potential.
Obviously with all these kids, its viewing their futures with a long term lens. However, as you know, its all about stockpiling talent. Whoever young they are.
The more you stockpile, the more options you have down the road.
Really didn’t need a demonstration of how it works by seeing Alex strikeout on it!
I know me neither, but that’s been Alex’s kyrptonite his whole career, he’s a fastball masher but mix in that change up or slider or curveball and throw it out the zone and you get him. It’s IMO what’s kept him sucky in the post season and it’s been what has him a career .307 hitter instead of .340, I seriously believe if he could hit the off speed more consistant he’d be a .380 – 390 hitter this season but some things just can’t be taught. Wade Boggs struggled w/ that pitch he learned to just poke it over the infield and teams then sticked w/ the fastball vs him. I would hope Alex conquers this one day.
Angel.. I did live in boston but it dumbed my senses several years back
SJ isn’t Kevin De Leon in the states BA reported his promotion a few days ago.
get Andy some runs now
“I know me neither, but that’s been Alex’s kyrptonite his whole career, he’s a fastball masher but mix in that change up or slider or curveball and throw it out the zone and you get him.”
Brandon…there is no possible way that ARod could have the career he’s had if he could not consistently do useful things with offspeed pitches. No possible way.
Only the Mohegan Sun commercials can make me miss Guiseppe Franco.
…We aren’t going to score a run, like ever again, are we?
Brandon,
He may be but, he’s not yet listed on the roster and hasn’t yet played in any GCL games.
If he did get promoted, that’s a great sign. Puts him on a fast track to Charleston or Tampa next year if he produces in the GCL.
Looks like The Big G took just five minutes with Just For Men.
There you go G-man –
By any means necessary.
the darker stache gets him a Hit By Pitch
dye it back!!
Procede for mustache?
Brandon,
Did a quick check on DeLeon. He played in a DSL2 game yesterday. he went 2-5 with 3 RBI.
If BA reported he was promoted, they may have jumped the gun.
Brandon…there is no possible way that ARod could have the career he’s had if he could not consistently do useful things with offspeed pitches. No possible way.
He’s a good guesser Whozat, but mix in that offspeed out of his zone and he chases it. I know even I wonder about it, how could he, because he’s that talented a pitch outside the zone he can drive farther than most people.
Was that Giambi w/ a SB ?
Missed hit and run?
SB by the Big G! Are you kidding me?
1-1 he didn’t swing at a pitch ?
on second thought, the darker stache gets him a stolen base. Dye away!!
sonofa …
and the web-gems start again…
ITS THE STACHE! It grows darker the faster Giambi gets.
Note to Yankees: Do NOT hit baseball to Encarnacion. He will catch it. Apparently he missed basketball try outs, or something. But you will not get baseball past him.
This Reds defense is killing us. Bring back the Padres!!
groan
BTW Whozat in your opinion what would it take to get Jeff Keppinger from the Reds.
Haha. I guess. I lived in Sydney 28 years, I just don’t remember it being anywhere near as windy as some places in the US I’ve been to now. North Dakota – now thats a windy place … constantly.
Ugh.. Robbie got robbed.
“but mix in that offspeed out of his zone and he chases it.”
That happens to everyone. Matsui just did it too.
I want Robbie to stick with that approach, though. That was exactly the right thing to do with that pitch.
Angel: Try Syracuse in…HOLY CATCH ABREU…the middle of January
“BTW Whozat in your opinion what would it take to get Jeff Keppinger from the Reds.”
Got me. I’d like to see how he comes back from the knee problem.
Probably about as windy as it gets here in Minnesota in January, Rebecca.
Your pics from yesterday were awesome. Amazing seats.
Andy looking good through 3.
The Yanks really need to score some runs. Starting the second time through the line-up so maybe they figured out Cueto.
I want Robbie to stick with that approach, though. That was exactly the right thing to do with that pitch.
I know me too. That AB and the 2nd AB yesterday. When he makes his count he hits the ball better.
BTW The And1 Reds Diamond edition will be out tomorrow …Holla
Alright, we’ve gone too long without scoring any runs. Let’s go, Yanks!!
“BTW Whozat in your opinion what would it take to get Jeff Keppinger from the Reds.”
Because Jeter isn’t good?
He’s cheap, so I figure a lot of teams’d be interested in Keppinger. Looking at his career numbers, they’re more than solid for a middle IFer. Why hasn’t he ever gotten more of a shot? Bad d?
Got me. I’d like to see how he comes back from the knee problem.
He is playing today at SS
Poor Andy Phillips got DFA again. That guy just has no luck.
Angel: Thanks! And yeah, I imagine Minnesota might be a little windier…but Syracuse definitely gets more snow!
“Because Jeter isn’t good?”
No, as a UT guy. Righty bat, better hitter than Betemit. Nudge Cano a bit, perhaps.
Encarnacion probably pulled a muscle leaping for that ball.
“He is playing today at SS”
Yes, I know. Being on the field doesn’t mean he won’t have any lingering problems.
Oh yeah, I look at your snow totals and shudder. I can’t imagine have to shovel AND drive in all of that. I get sick of shovelling snow by December…
I love how Cone is so open about his checkered past.
Chicago-Hello wind. Fun city to live in.
can the Yankees please score a run?
“Chicago-Hello wind. Fun city to live in.”
In the summer. The winter’s are brutal.
Cueto is making me a bit more happy about Wilkins De La Rosa.
Angel: Yeah, wasn’t fun, but I will miss it, now that I’ve graduated and all.
SA: Apparently not.
O.k. I have to ask. Is it that we’re going against good pitching or is our offense slumping once again? I mean we are playing the reds righ?
That swing hurt Jetes hands you can tell when he fouled it off.
This offense, other than A-Rod, seems utterly incapable of anything right now.
….Do I have to like, sacrifice a chicken, to get these guys to score a bleedin’ run?
*by these guys, I mean the Yankees. Just to be clear.
“In the summer. The winter’s are brutal.”
Definitely.
this offense..sigh
“Cueto is making me a bit more happy about Wilkins De La Rosa.”
Why? Did he used to be an outfielder as well? Cueto never walked many, which is De La Rosa’s bugaboo, so that’s not too similar…
I guess I’m confused. How are the Reds in last place with three guys named Cy Young pitching for them? I don’t get it.
“O.k. I have to ask. Is it that we’re going against good pitching or is our offense slumping once again? I mean we are playing the reds righ?”
Yesterday was awful. The day before…He’s really good. And Cueto can be nasty as well. Still…
We can’t hit against good pitching. We can feast on the Wandy Rodriguez’s of the world. I’m shocked we beat Peavy and Oswalt at this point.
SoS we’re catching Cueto at a bad time he basically shut down the Dodgers in his last start now he’s primed to do the same today to the Yanks, we can’t afford any mistakes today, we need to make him blink, get a runner on 1B or in scoring position. It’s funny Cueto and Volquez may be the 2 most electric pitchers in the NL when they are on.
Rebecca, I’m not sure about the chicken, but have you considered dropping the Bronx from your summer itinerary and heading back to Italy?
This offense is brutal too, currently.
Volquez is unreal.
Cueto can be unreal, but today he looks a little wild.
The guy yesterday? We had the bases loaded and forgot that the baserunners only count when they actually, you know, score a run.
“We can’t hit against good pitching.”
Um…if people could hit them, they wouldn’t be good pitchers.
“I’m shocked we beat Peavy and Oswalt at this point.”
You just contradicted yourself.
1961 Michael Kay …1962 was the Giants
“Cueto can be unreal, but today he looks a little wild.”
Not really…he’s throwing lots of strikes, it seems to me.
Cano is statistically the worst hitter in the AL.
How sad is that? It is almost july. He ain’t coming back around.
Nick: Hey man, I was Stateside when we won seven straight!
And besides, I don’t have enough $ for another trip–had to mooch of the ‘rents for the first.
Andy. Strike zone. Find it.
…or not.
AND WHY THE BLOODY HELL ARE YOU PLAYING THAT CLIP!?!?!
We can’t hit against good pitching. We can feast on the Wandy Rodriguez’s of the world.
check Wandy’s WHIP and ERA
I’m shocked we beat Peavy and Oswalt at this point.
We whooped them, not just beat, we whooped thier a…
“You just contradicted yourself.”
That is why I’m shocked you moron. Since we can’t hit good pitching.
What is with some people here?
Poor Andy.
I think the Yankees should pick him up and let him be our defensive first baseman.
Ohhh, look what Yes did.. they made Rebecca attack her caps lock key.
That can’t be an error
Cano just can’t hit. He can’t field either.
sj -
thanks for the latin american updates.
there’s obviously a gold mine of talent down there.
speaking of talent, your nephew is playing in orleans on tuesday and sunday so hopefully i’ll catch one of the games. i notice he’s walked 5 times in 6 games to give him a .500 OBP. not too shabby.
dennis ( red sox fan) and his wife are in orleans too on tuesday, so i’ll pass that on to him.
““BTW Whozat in your opinion what would it take to get Jeff Keppinger from the Reds.â€
Because Jeter isn’t good?”
FYI, those of you who know my posting style, this is an imposter ‘V’, started doing it at the end of the game yesterday.
Probably the same 12 year old who likes to pretend to be other regulars at times.
I am 100% in favor of logins.
playing that clip was not cool.
i cried after that game.
I know what the problem is!! Girardi has stopped changing the lineup on a daily basis. The team was always on their toes. Now their back on their heels. Time to do what you do best Girardi. Keep playing musical chairs. 96 team did and it worked.
Cano ain’t coming back. He’s now officially one of the worst players in baseball.
My husband just yelled at the TV at that, Zach.
I remember how much that sucked.
This team goes ice cold against pitchers with great stuff. Cabrera in Balt. Burnett in Toronto. Volquez and Cueto today. We have trouble with guys like that that seem to turn it on against the Yanks.
people who are getting on Cano for his defense need to think again.
…
Look, G-d, I’m sorry I broke the sabbath yesterday, but seriously, dude, I am not the only Yankee fan out there. Why punish them?
Andy. Strike Zone. Find it.
I wouldn’t have ever thought that Cano would become this bad. Makes me pine for the days of Luis Sojo at 2b.
This has the feel of one of those bad innings.
Since we can’t hit good pitching.
Wandy Rodriguez had a 1.99 ERA before we showed up.
Roy Oswalt lasted 5.2 IP to save his ERA
Jake Peavy lasted 4.0 IP and allowed 3 ER courtesy of the longball
so what do you mean ?
SIT DOWN!
“FYI, those of you who know my posting style, this is an imposter ‘V’, started doing it at the end of the game yesterday.”
Your posting style? You mean where you insult everyone and name call and generally act like a 9 yr old?
Gotcha. So look for jerks. On it.
Cano needs an attitude adjustment, send him down and bring up someone who can hit.
Oh, well. At least if Andy gives up six or seven runs, at least we won’t waste another good pitching performance.
The dreaded 4th inning again for Andy? I hope not
If you think that Wandy Rodriguez is a under 2 ERA pitcher, I wish you luck in life.
And I said I was shocked that we beat Oswalt and Peavy. Jesus. Do you people know english? If I didn’t say that it would be a contradiction.
“I wouldn’t have ever thought that Cano would become this bad. Makes me pine for the days of Luis Sojo at 2b.”
At least you didnt say Womack. He’s still an asset on the field. Hopefully that smash to encarnacion will get him going.
The Yanks go ice cold against pitchers with great stuff?
Does that mean they go cold against most everyone?
Tons of pitchers have great stuff or they wouldn’t be major league pitchers.
“Your posting style? You mean where you insult everyone and name call and generally act like a 9 yr old?
Gotcha. So look for jerks. On it.”
I only insult idiots and trolls.
If you feel insulted by that….
Send Cano to Cleveland for CC and Cabrera.
Is it safe to look yet?
Andy. Strike Zone. Please find it. I know you can.
Cano, he of the .364/.417/.455 line in his last 7 games (including his 0/4 yesterday). WHAT A BUM!
He’s also only the 4th best defensive 2B in BASEBALL by zone rating!
http://www.hardballtimes.com/t.....mit=Submit
Man, he really sucks.
Oh, well. At least if Andy gives up six or seven runs, at least we won’t waste another good pitching performance.
Wanna bet ?
NICE…
NOW LETS GET SOME RUNS!!!!
Andy gets out of the jam. Still 0-0.
…interesting.
Attaboy Andy!!
Andy really has a problem with the 4th inning. At least it didn’t hurt him.
whew!
Andy’s @75 pitches
There is a God and he is a Yankee fan.
Alright!
Hey, Andy did a fist pump – he should be chastened for that by somebody.
And that’s just Andy being Andy!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
Nice, Andy. No need for the old dog to learn new tricks. Such a warrior.
Can breath again now.
Shaky inning by Andy. Lots of pitches too.
The feast or famine offense continues. This team looks very good and scores a lot of runs when they hit home runs. Otherwise they just don’t string together enough hits (especially with RISP) to have big innings.
Chances are they are going to need to hit some home runs to beat Cueto. Not only is that the strength of the yankee’s offense it’s been Cueto’s major weakness.
Its hard to believe as Cueto has such good stuff but he is one of the most home run prone pitchers in all of baseball. He’s giving up 1.85 HR/9 innings. That is an absolutely awful rate. He’s already given up 18 home runs this season.
You’d think those home runs would be due to the fact that he plays in a very small park in which home runs are easy to hit. But that’s not really a primary factor. His home run rate is actually much worse on the road – 2.17/9 on the road and 1.7/9 at home. In turn his ERA on the road is much worse than at home 7.28 on the road and 4.11 at home.
Cueto can look very good for long stretches and then give up a lot of runs quickly through the long ball. Let’s hope that where this game is headed.
“Tons of pitchers have great stuff or they wouldn’t be major league pitchers.”
There is a huge difference between great stuff guys like Volquez and regular big league pitchers. If you don’t think that you are probably real happy with Rasner and Giese and wouldn’t want an improvement.
“Cano, he of the .364/.417/.455 line in his last 7 games (including his 0/4 yesterday). WHAT A BUM!
He’s also only the 4th best defensive 2B in BASEBALL by zone rating!”
He’s great for 7 games! Let’s get his plaque in Cooperstown ready. Just go away. Troll.
Look, you can’t just wave a magic Wandy and make all our troubles go away. But this could be a good start.
i can just picture Mad Dog right now:
“I mean, c’mon…It’s a June game against the Cincinnati Reds! Do I need to see Andy Pettitte fist pump in the 4th inning? It’s The Reds for Christs sake!”
Cueto does lose focus at points in games. Maybe we’ll figure him out.
Randy,
Thanks. I’ll be up in July. I will try and stop by the store when I get up there.
Tampa up 2-0. I keep waiting for them to start a long losing streak. I know their pitchings good. But its like saying the Clippars are ever going to be good. Its just something i cant get used to. Reputation Rays!! Go back to it.
“Cueto can look very good for long stretches and then give up a lot of runs quickly through the long ball. Let’s hope that where this game is headed.”
CB, I totally agree. I think it’s control issues – Volquez can get wild, but when Volquez misses his spots, he misses low (you can’t crank a pitch at your shins for an HR). When Cueto misses…. it’s in the strike zone. Hanging pitches go a long way.
You know Jason NJ, i’ve never seen you post anything about baseball. In fact your entire existence on here appears to be all about making remarks at people you don’t like, and nothing to do with contributing to the baseball discussion.
Why does Alex insist on wearing Kei Igawas eyewear?
Somewhere on a Cincy blog someone is whining about the Reds not hitting w/ RISP
Cano is going nowhere. You don’t give up on all star 25 yr olds. Especially middle infielders.
Alex was trying to hit a home run right there…
“That is why I’m shocked you moron. Since we can’t hit good pitching.”
But…by your own admission, they CAN. How am I the moron.
“The Yankees can’t hit good pitchers. They hit a couple of good pitchers. I’m shocked.”
Are you shocked because you continue to hold a belief that, by your own admission, isn’t true?
Michael Kay – It’s hard to win ball games if you don’t score runs
Thank you Captain Obvious
When I see you post something besides taking shots at people and talking about the weather in far away cities, Angel, I’ll smile.
The Yankee Offense shows up NOW!!!!
Here’s hoping CB. They’re going to need him to do that in order get some runs happening, by the looks of it.
Logins and ignore features would be wonderful.
whozat:
Obviously, you can’t read and you just like starting problems. It is pretty clear what I said. Good luck with that, sir.
Yeah, thats right. I NEVER post anything about baseball, Jason NJ. You got me there.
“The Yankee Offense shows up NOW!!!!”
We haven’t showed up for a whole weekend.
……Wow that was horrible.
Argh, that was really annoying.
Why are we wasting outs on the basepaths?
We did it against Volquez and now here.
As a Moneyball fan, I think wasting outs on the basepaths is crazy. Why have a high OBP if you are giving outs up especially with the hitters we have coming up?
Jebus this is frustrating. Stop giving away outs on the bases!!
They sure have run themselves into a lot of outs this series…
Abreu looked like he was running on quick sand. At least they are trying to manufacture a run.
“Why are we wasting outs on the basepaths?”
Just trying to be aggressive. Bobby didn’t seem committed on that stolen base.
Right now there is an 8 year old kid out there who has never seen the Yankees win a World Series. Depressing…
can someone tell me why abreu was walking to 2nd and not running hard????
ha, I see we’re all thinking along the same lines.
This Patterson is the same guy who hit a homer yesterday???
Hitting under 200 with an OBP of 200??
Jeter would have made that catch…
LOL. sorry, couldnt resist.
“Obviously, you can’t read and you just like starting problems. ”
My point is that you’re wrong…they CAN hit good pitching. You pointed out two such cases yourself. The impression that they can’t is just selection bias.
It was like Bobby saying, “oh hi there, could you please tag me out? I’m not supposed to be running on the bases. Thank you!”
At least he was polite about it.
Cueto w/ a runner on 1B has a 6.11 ERA
Cueto w/ RISP has an ERA of 12.98
W/ the bases empty 2.26 ERA
That’s a dangerous combo, meaning if this Yankee team continues to swing for the fence chances are Cueto will breeze through this game.
“Just trying to be aggressive. Bobby didn’t seem committed on that stolen base.”
That is why it is a waste. With all the great hitters behind him??
this is why you need to win games against thompson yesterday.
you need to win those games, now look at today….
our offense is on vacation……jeter will be good for a couple more groundouts to short…
the cano/pettitte play I thought was going to continue the bad luck.. please grind out a W…
“Just trying to be aggressive. Bobby didn’t seem committed on that stolen base.”
It wasn’t a stolen base. It was a hit and run that Matsui didn’t come through on. He was out no matter what.
Rebecca,
I think Bobby slid in softly because he didnt want to spill the shortstops cup of tea.
Very polite of him.
whozat:
You think they can. I think they can’t hit really good pitching. We’re proving me right unfortunately this weekend.
I hope you win out.
V June 22nd, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Right now there is an 8 year old kid out there who has never seen the Yankees win a World Series. Depressing…
That’s funny. For a Sox fan, V. Not funny for anyone of us.
Giambi made a throw!
As good a hitter Bobby is, I hope we don’t resign him to a long-term contract. He’s too soft. Never plays the wall, and seems to be working harder in a contract year.
maybe andy can get us into the 7th???
Hopper did that before, I mean that’s 2 double bunts by Norris in 2008 that I’ve seen.
“We haven’t showed up for a whole weekend.”
Weekend’s not over yet!
Let’s Go Yanks!
Lowell doesn’t have hops like Encarnacion.
Ball one hopped over his head. Base hit.
Let’s go Yankees!
Giambi found his range to throw to second base!
Motion worker sucks.
Did Giambi just complete a throw? wow who knew?
“That’s a dangerous combo, meaning if this Yankee team continues to swing for the fence chances are Cueto will breeze through this game.”
Swinging for the fences against a guy who’s prone to the long ball doesn’t seem like a terrible idea.
Also…whenever guys are made to look foolish by a guy with a great changeup, there’s this assumption that they’re swinging from their heels. But there’s really no evidence of that. All you can do up there is try to hit the ball hard somewhere.
Andy with a pick-off. It seems like he gets one every game.
What we just saw on the basepaths is one reason why, despite what a good no. 3 hitter and 2 strike hitter he can be, I’m not exactly wedded to Abreu returning next year.
NICE PICKOFF ANDY!!!
We got spoiled running on the terrible SD catchers. My 90 year old grandmother could steal off of.
We aren’t a stolen base team. We grind out innings. We hit for power. Stop wasting outs.
He just made a stellar catch before, V.
I disagre totally that he’s soft.
Zach: bobby must have thought he was in England or something
Did Giambi just actually make a throw to second base and have it not go into centerfield?
See. That is why you don’t steal.
Giambi up. Posada following. Cano after.
Come on Girardi.
“You think they can. I think they can’t hit really good pitching. We’re proving me right unfortunately this weekend.”
Obviously, teams will do less well against good pitchers overall. That’s why they’re called good pitchers. What do you expect them to do against good pitchers?
HEY JORGE!
HIP HIP !
waiting for the obligatory “Giambi clogs up the basebath comments”…
Bobby hasn’t been far from soft this year.
And check the market. Not many good RF’s out there and we got no one in the system.
Bobby is coming back.
Wow, two hits in a row!!!
C’mon ROBBIE!
See, now THIS is the time. They NEED this run. This is how you beat good pitchers. Get these runs, and then shut down the Reds’ offense.
Angel, have you been watching him all these years? Everyone knows that he would never go into the wall, no matter how important the catch was to the game. And he’s starting to slow down as seen in the steady decline in SB’s the last few years.
I wouldn’t mind a short-term deal, but nothing long-term with huge dollars. Dangerous.
Oh God, we have to plate these guys. Come on, Cano!!!
Thank goodness Cano didn’t swing at that first pitch meatball.
I don’t know whether it’s that Bobby is soft or he just has the tendency to make certain specific dumb mistakes, but there are times when I want to break something watching him, and then there are times when I think, man, how great is it to watch him at the plate turn an 0-2 count into a walk or a line drive double. I really can’t think of another player ever who I have so loved and hated to watch depending on the day.
Giambi clogs up the basepaths!!
ok, we have to get them home, come on we need a hit with RISP pronto!!
stolen base and beating the shift, the stache lives!!
“Obviously, teams will do less well against good pitchers overall. That’s why they’re called good pitchers. What do you expect them to do against good pitchers?”
Just drop it. Jeez Louise.
I expect a good hitting team to grind out games against great pitching. At times we certainly don’t do that. As everyone that watches the games can attest to.
“We haven’t showed up for a whole weekend.”
The offense hasn’t shown up all season. It’s not enough to score runs by hitting home runs. If that’s what your offense depends on then you are always going to have a wildly inconsistent offense.
They’ve been scoring more runs over the past two week – yet over that period of time their team batting average with RISP has not budged at all.
They are hitting .250 as a team with RISP right now. I believe right before ARod came back the team was hitting around .244 with RISP. Might be wrong on that but I believe it was around there.
The most emblematic player on the team right now is Giambi. He’s a microcosm of the offense. Giambi is having a bizarre year. In many ways he’s been the best offensive 1b in the AL. He’s got a 17 HR, he’s got a .394 OBP and a .974 OPS.
But he’s hitting .138 with RISP. .138. Unbelievable. His BA with RISP basically has not gone up much since that awful start. It’s nearly as low as it was in April when he just wasn’t hitting.
That’s why even though he has 17 HR he only has 40 RBI. That’s a terrible ratio of HR:RBIs. And its not like the guys in front of him aren’t getting on base – Damon and ARod are on base all the time, Matsui has often hit in front of Giambi. He’s had opportunities.
If your 5th/6th hole hitter hits .138 with RISP your just not going to score consistently.
I’m in no way blaming Giambi. In fact he’s the last guy you want to blame as coming into this season you just couldn’t expect much at all from him. I’m just discussing him to illustrate a point.
He really gives a snap shot in microcosm of where this team is with its offense.
Hopefully they can get a big hit to get these two runs in here.
Thank You that’s a good AB
Ok Robbie…Ok Robbie.
Hey look! A run!
Hey look who hit the ball! That good for nothing Robbie Canò!
Cano did something??? CANO DID SOMETHING!!!
DAMN I THOUGHT WE JUST WITNESSED A MIRACLE!!
Alas we still got a run HEY WE GOT A RUN!!
Yay a run! Two hard hits by Robbie, too!
Way to make contact, Robbie!!
Man, they should’ve sac bunted there. They’re so dumb…Robbie swinging for the fences, awful play.
Cano actually made a good baseball play???
wow, a run!!!
I almost forgot what one looked like!
Melky will chop one over the infield…
That works! wtg! Get another boys!
Agreed, CB.
wow, Posada got to 3rd and the camera wasn’t on him. We didn’t get to see his blistering speed
sj -
sounds good . hey, this blog could be good for business.
Who cares if the RF goes into the wall and looks like Aaron Rowand?
Abreu hits 300 with an OBP of near 400 and can run and throw and can play in NY.
What more do you want?
Yes, I have been. Sorry, I just don’t think that not repeatedly throwing yourself at the wall, makes someone soft. In fact, I think it makes those who do so rather silly, and causes unecessary wear and tear on the body. I feel the same way about it as I feel about sliding into bases – its risky.
i really wanted that 2nd run…
beggars cant be choosers.
Wow, it looks like night at the Stadium.
Should have scored more than one run there, but one run is better than none.
Melky is a terrible hitter.
I want to see Gardner get a shot here.
I gotta go hop on a plane now, but its nice to leave with a lead! Go Yankees!
So because Giambi and Posada got hits on the first pitch, Damon thought he should swing? Ugh!!
Maybe Dmaon was just trying to hurry up and finish his at bat to get this to be an offical game?
I wanted that second run!
The bottom of this order is terrible. Cano and Melky can’t put two hits together or god forbid a walk and a hit.
“Who cares if the RF goes into the wall and looks like Aaron Rowand?
Abreu hits 300 with an OBP of near 400 and can run and throw and can play in NY.
What more do you want?”
But he’ll be 35 next year…as someone mentioned, short term deal or no deal for Abreu.
This may sound terrible… but i’m sick of that 1998 Yankeeography.
Whozat while you are here what the hell got into Ramiro Pena this year ?
Melky’s at bat hurt there. Even a sac fly would have done. Was also hoping for 2, but 1 is better than none
Anyone that thinks that Abreu is soft because he doesn’t fly into walls is clueless about the game.
Just called my family in Washington Heights it is pouring.
“But he’ll be 35 next year…as someone mentioned, short term deal or no deal for Abreu.”
I’m sure he’ll be looking for a 7 year deal. Pass.
I tend to agree with the shorter deal aspect though, V. But more because of his age – not because he’s supposedly soft or anything.
It’s clear here now, but it was raining for a while.
“Just called my family in Washington Heights it is pouring.”
They have roofs there??? I kid.
“I’m sure he’ll be looking for a 7 year deal. Pass.”
You don’t know that at all.
well at least we got 1.
re: Abreu…I don’t dislike him or anything and I can understand the wisdom of not shortening your career by throwing yourself into walls all the time (although he shouldnt be so hesitant near the wall either!) but he isn’t getting any younger, and his walk rate I believe has declined every year for the past few. If we would need to give him a 3 year contract or something to bring him back, is it really worth it? He would just get worse every year and by the final year might be practically useless.
With all the problems Tabata has had this year, I’m not sure we can assume our 2009 RF is just a stopgap anymore where we can just DH him or put him on the bench when Jose is ready. What if Jose never pans out? Do we really want Abreu there for the next 3 years? Personally I would like to take a look at Xavier Nady, only problem is that would leave us w/o a no. 3 hitter.
They have roofs there??? I kid.
No only boats
(j/k)
“I’m sure he’ll be looking for a 7 year deal. Pass.”
Who knows what he’ll take to stay. He has made millions upon millions. Maybe he likes NY. Maybe he figures 3 years and 35 mill is better than 5 yrs and 55 in Pittsburgh.
We don’t know. We got no one near the big leagues in the minors ready to replace him.
I don’t think there is any way Abreu will get a 7 year deal from anyone. If I had to guess the length of his next contract, whoever it comes from, I’d say 4.
Here is a question: could the yanks land grady sizemore and if the indians would deal what would it cost the yanks to land him?
Tabata is years away from contributing and we don’t know if he can hit for power enough for RF.
I’d re-sign Abreu for a year unless we have some sense that A-Jx or Gardner is really ready to take that roll.
Abreu is a rock-solid #3 hitter and everybody seems to like him. He also works pitcher like almost no one else.
I don’t get the sense he’ll be looking for a major deal since the option was exercised with no demands for extension.
anybody got a weather radar
“could the yanks land grady sizemore and if the indians would deal what would it cost the yanks to land him?”
You couldn’t get him in fantasy baseball. The Yanks want pitching. They figure that Austin Jackson can play CF in ’09
FYI, any ‘V’ post since 2:19 PM is not me. It’s an imposter.
Please stop responding to posts by ‘V’. I’ll probably change my name for the day.
I’m doubtful. Grady Sizemore is to Cleveland, what Jeter is to New York.
We got 90 million off the books. I think they will make sure they keep Bobby.
Are the Angels the only team in the MLB that can bunt?
Brandon, go to http://www.weather.com and for zip code enter 10012–that’s midtown manhattan. 07481 or 07417 or 07436 North Jersey and will give you NYC radar as well.
Get the tarp on.
“FYI, any ‘V’ post since 2:19 PM is not me. It’s an imposter.”
Who died and gave you dibs on that name? Or letter I should say. LOL.
6 scoreless for Andy. I’ll take it.
Amazing how many players especially middle infielders cannot bunt.
““FYI, any ‘V’ post since 2:19 PM is not me. It’s an imposter.â€
Who died and gave you dibs on that name? Or letter I should say. LOL.”
What a brilliant post.
I am 100% in favor of logins.
Nice 3 pitch K to escape the inning!
I seriously want to marry Andy Pettitte. Ya gotta love how he bucks up with men on.
Aaaaand here’s the rain delay. Since we’re ahead and it’s past the 5th this can be called as an official game right? Or will the storm not be lengthy enough?
great job by Andy!!
Grady Sizemore? Can we get Cliff Lee and CC too??
IMO, we should resign Abreu to a maximum 2/1 team option contract (not many RF options) or move on…Bobby, Matsui, JD, ‘Stache, Posada all heading toward their DH days.
Andy with an EXCELLENT inning…gotta be happy the way our SP has “stepped up” since Wang’s injury.
Andy Petite walks into and out of trouble
Grady Sizemore is their goddamn franchise he’s got little girls with his face on their tee shirts.
Sizemore will stay in Cleveland.
I hope Abreu doesn’t come back. They’ll be better off going in another direction.
He’s gonna want more than a one-year deal anyways, which is the most I’d give him.
Didn’t think it was brilliant. But semi comical sure.
“Grady Sizemore? Can we get Cliff Lee and CC too??”
All for Cano, Melky & Kennedy??? (sarcasm)
everyone post as V
ok
Who replaces Abreu in RF if you let him go?
You are going to have to spend 50 mill plus on a FA to replace him.
Remember you are losing your 3 hitter who thrives in that role and helps everyone in the lineup out ie A-Rod.
And the newcomer may not handle NY. You know Bobby can.
okey dokey
How was talk of Sizemore being traded brought up? You must be kidding, right?
I’m more concerned with getting pitching now and in the off season than getting a rightfielder or any offense.
Who replaces Abreu? We have 4 outfielders right now and there’s Brett Gardener. You’re kidding right? We have no lack of OFs.
whats this all about?
Ignore 2:47… This was not me. Those who appreciate my posts probably recognize this…
How was talk of Sizemore being traded brought up? You must be kidding, right?
Video Game GMs
“could the yanks land grady sizemore and if the indians would deal what would it cost the yanks to land him?â€
I think they would take Kennedy for him.
and 2:52!!!
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“He’s gonna want more than a one-year deal anyways, which is the most I’d give him.”
I would give him 2 years but in essence I agree. Everybody always says, eh, let’s just bring him back on a 1 to 2 year deal… well that would be great but how do we know some other team isnt gonna offer him more? I can almost guarantee that someone will. There’s a lot of clubs out there that could stand to add some plate patience or a lefty bat or both.
Meanwhile the Yanks are a team that could stand to get less left handed. cough Xavier Nady cough…at least look into him!
This is ridiculous.
Delay? Good time for lunch.
Is it just me or is anybody hoping for an official game rainout
“Ignore 2:47… This was not me. Those who appreciate my posts probably recognize this…”
Appreciate?? You mean the guys you don’t insult and name call?? So, your mother???
vain velay
veal vit vit
Wander-
He’s a brilliant young player on another team… therefore, some of us believe we can trade melky for him.. and the deal breaker will be Igawa
“Who replaces Abreu? We have 4 outfielders right now and there’s Brett Gardener. You’re kidding right? We have no lack of OFs.”
Because we want an OF with about 10 home runs in total and no power?
This isn’t the NL. RF is a power hitting spot. You can’t go into a season with Melky playing RF. And the Yanks would never do that. They’d trade Melky before they made him a RF because his trade value is nothing as a RF and immense as a CF.
Who needs Grady Sizemore?!
Is our Blogfather at the game or did he take the weekend off?
dammit my cousin said it’s stopping.
You people who want to discard Bobby Abreu so easily need to realize that those young guys down on the farm are not going to have his plate discipline and cannot be put right in front of A-Rod. Who do we put in front of A-Rod? Cano has proven that he can’t bat third. That has to be considered when talking about whether to keep Bobby or not.
“Is our Blogfather at the game or did he take the weekend off?”
I believe he’s off.
sunshine is coming too
Brandon….
I know you want the W… but I want to see Cano hit again… he’s hitting really well today, just been robbed twice
How do you know how much it will cost for another outfielder? You’re pulling that $50M+ figure out of your arse.
And I’m well aware who they are replacing. Abreu hasn’t been anything special since he’s been a Yankee.
If he’ll take a one-year deal, then bring him back. If not, let him walk and take the draft pick for him.
V has made a lot of friends here. I guess it is the personality.
TK: He’s off, but I love the nickname.
Pete Abraham, the Blogfather!
Anybody know what Teixeira’s performance is in terms of plate discipline and walks?
If he is a grinder, then I can see letting Abreu move on, but I doubt he is as much of a bulldog at the dish as el comeldulce
V I just want the W this offense freaks me out too much.
“You people who want to discard Bobby Abreu so easily need to realize that those young guys down on the farm are not going to have his plate discipline and cannot be put right in front of A-Rod. Who do we put in front of A-Rod?”
That right there is the biggest problem with getting rid of Abreu. Like I said in my last post I like Xavier Nady, but he couldn’t hit 3rd. Perhaps the Yanks can trade for a 1b in the offseason who could hit there? Could Teixeira hit there? Or another possible solution is bat Jeter 3rd and Melky 2nd but I don’t really like that as I prefer LHB surrounding A-Rod, plus Melky is very inconsistent with plate patience – sometimes he shows it, sometimes he doesn’t.
I think that Cano is just having an off year… I mean I think he could easily bat third… and he would have an easier time of it because he would be protected by A-Rod.. as opposed to… Melky?!?! I don’t know sounds a lot better to me
“How do you know how much it will cost for another outfielder? You’re pulling that $50M+ figure out of your arse.”
Really? What would a star OF cost on the FA market?
Let’s see Rowand went for 5 years and 50+. Hunter the same. Gary Matthews JR the same.
So, it’s not just pulled from my butt. And ask A-Rod how much Bobby helps.
I think Yanks should keep Abreu if years and price is right. He prob wants to stay with New York to keep his name out there with his new shoe company starting up.He might give Yanks a break on price and he’s been a pretty good player for them.
Well normally I would say the bright side is Cueto will be out of the game when it resumes, but with Dusty Baker you never know.
The radar on weather.com is amazingly good no. You can now actually zoom into street level and see the weather by street.
I just checked Tex’s stats, not many walks.
Wow. Pete needs to do something about these trolls.
Both Jeter and Arod’ hit streaks will end if it’s called, but I really was hoping it would be. A win’s a win and they need it!
I would love Tex at 1b but they are going to need a RF who can hit and Bret Gardner isn’t a RF and either is Melky.
Ollie… do you talk to A-Rod often? can you also ask him to work on catching pop-flys?
thanks
“Because we want an OF with about 10 home runs in total and no power?”
Are you talking about Abreu since coming over? 16, 15 & 14(?) HRs L3 years…
Look everyone, Abreu has fit our team to a T with his plate discipline but he’ll be 35 and we have too many regulars in their mid-30′s.
If I were Cueto and Volquez’s agents I would be demanding strict pitch counts and innings limits.
See Prior, Mark. Wood, Kerry.
Well the plusses with getting Abreu to agree to a team friendly deal is that he does live in the city and always did even when with Philly, plus him and A-Rod do seem to be all about hitting next to each other. I would rather overpay him in money to get him to take less years though.
“Ollie… do you talk to A-Rod often? can you also ask him to work on catching pop-flys?
thanks”
How is his catching pop ups hurt the team? I think his 50 homers and 300 BA and 150 RBI’s take care of any pop up short comings.
While you’re waiting for the Yankees to resume, Spain and Italy are going at it in Euro 08.
Never said anything about signing Abreu’s replacement to a long-term deal. They need a stopgap for a season or two until Jackson is ready to play CF.
The one thing I don’t want them to do is commit to another long term contract.
“I just checked Tex’s stats, not many walks.”
Boo. Just what I was afraid of. Plus I’m sure his speed doesnt begin to compare to Abreu’s.
re: Euro 08 – VIVA ITALIA!!!!!
Some OT talk so I flip to ch. 11 and then I see this
CW promo
Never knew the show was making a comeback spinoff.
oh I have no problem with that you would just think that maybe if YOU talked to him… maybe he would work harder on certain fundamentals… such as catching pop flies etc.
For the record, Abreu hasn’t walked that much this season.
You Abreu defenders are making your argument on his history – not his performance this season.
Look at the Mets OF if you want corner outfielders who can’t hit for power. And power isn’t just homers. How is that going for them?
I’ll take Abreu in RF any day. If you don’t sign him you are going to be forced to spend 50+ and 5yrs + on the likes of Adam Dunn, Patty Burrel, and Rocco Baldelli.
“oh I have no problem with that you would just think that maybe if YOU talked to him… maybe he would work harder on certain fundamentals… such as catching pop flies etc.”
What gave the impression that I was buddies with A-Rod???
damn Tulo Brett Farve touch down pass to the stands.
Vamos España! =D
“You Abreu defenders are making your argument on his history – not his performance this season.”
The season is still relatively young. And he played better last year during the second half than he did the first, just like Cano.
“You Abreu defenders are making your argument on his history – not his performance this season.”
Exactly. Put Lane out there. At least he’s the major league minimum.
Andy Phillips would be a good 1B caddy for Giambi. he played well there defensively for the Yankees.
of course a caddy is a luxury if you have to carry both 12 pitchers and 3 catchers. that specialist role not open until September-October.
Abreu has walked just 27 times this season.
Compare that to A-Rod who has walked 25 times this season and missed significant time on the DL.
“I’ll take Abreu in RF any day. If you don’t sign him you are going to be forced to spend 50+ and 5yrs + on the likes of Adam Dunn, Patty Burrel, and Rocco Baldelli.”
With the problems Baldelli is having, I doubt it. I think that we should sign Bobby is he agrees to a short term deal. And I think he would. He seems happy here.
“You Abreu defenders are making your argument on his history – not his performance this season.”
Really? Because those who are arguing against him seem to basing a lot of their objections to him on his history.
Works both ways.
The season is not over but hey if at the end of the year he looks done, let him walk. If he puts up his usually numbers and his tank isn’t on E, sign him to a 1/1 or 2 year deal if possible.
“Abreu has walked just 27 times this season.
Compare that to A-Rod who has walked 25 times this season and missed significant time on the DL.”
Bad comparison. Alex has been getting intentionally walked to get the the ‘stache.
Looking over the free agent list of outfielders. It ain’t pretty.
If you think they won’t bring back or you don’t like Abreu, you better get ready for that possibility. Because it is happening.
And they are not going into a season with a scrub out there to wait for Jackson.
Andy Phillips would be a good 1B caddy for Giambi. he played well there defensively for the Yankees.
I’m sorry I’m allergic to scrubs.
The objections to Abreu seem to be he doesn’t like going into the wall.
Really???
I’d rather have 3yrs of Abreu than 5 years of Pat Burrel or Dunn or Jacque Jones or Kevin Mench.
“I flip to ch. 11 and then I see this
CW promo ”
OMG…LMAO!! Hahaha they even have the same theme music and everything but where is the Brandon Walsh fist pump, lol.
i had actually heard they were doing this but forgot all about it. Apparently the Kelly Taylor character will be on it as the HS guidance counselor. As embarrassing as it is, I won’t even try to hide my lingering love for the old series, just watching season 2 DVDs this AM in fact. I will have to check this spinoff out despite myself.
Baldelli hasn’t played in years…I think we can get him for $500k…and put him in Tampa with Pavano.
Now Burrell has been a STUD L4 years…even when he hits .260 his OBP is .390 – .400
The Yankees seem happy with Betemit. They are not going down the Andy Phillips road again.
Just reading Little Mikey Lupica’s column during the raim delay. Don’t ask me why I decided to waste 10 minutes on him,but I was curious to see if he had it in him to be honest about the Willy Randolph fiasco.
Alas, Little Mikey has stayed consistently dishonest and can’t bring himself to call a spade a spade. Every sentence he has written in the last week about the embarassment that is the Mets has had a reference to George Steinbrenner at his craziest.
Note to Little Mikey: George Steinbrenner has nothing to do with the way the Mets mishandled Randolph’s firing. To mention the Yankees in every paragraph that you write about the situation ( which isn’t many)only proves that you are utterly incapable of being honest when it comes to your beloved Mets.
I’d write this comment in the NY Daily News if only Mikey wasn’t such a cowardly punk and didnt allow comments to his columns.
“With the problems Baldelli is having, I doubt it.”
That was my point. You are going to see guys like that get huge deals and we know Cashman is not trading big prospects for guys like Rios.
You can carry a guy like Melky if he gives you great CF defense. You can’t carry two of them.
I’ll take Abreu in RF any day. If you don’t sign him you are going to be forced to spend 50+ and 5yrs + on the likes of Adam Dunn, Patty Burrel, and Rocco Baldelli.
With Baldelli’s injury history, there’s not a chance in the world that he’s going to get a long term deal. He hasn’t played a full season in years and is the Carl Pavano of health.
Has it stopped raining there? EI is tempting me to throw something at the TV by directing Musica at me.
“I’ll take Abreu in RF any day. If you don’t sign him you are going to be forced to spend 50+ and 5yrs + on the likes of Adam Dunn, Patty Burrel, and Rocco Baldelli.”
Oooor you could just trade for Xavier Nady and his low salary, he will hit free agency reasonably soon so then if it doesnt work out, part ways, and if it does renegotiate a deal.
He brings a few drawbacks but am I the only one who thinks he could be a good fit?
Andy Phillips?
If they get a caddy can they get a caddy that can at least hit a little?
I really like Pat the Bat. But I’m not sure how he would respond to NY. Before Howard and Utley emerged and Rollins said “we’re the team to beat,” he was under a big microscope in Philly and seemed to handle it very poorly.
You want Nady??
Are you prepared to give up Melancon or Kennedy or Betances or Montero? Because that is what Pittsburgh is asking. a top prospect because power in this game is very in demand.
I’d rather keep Bobby and the prospects. And use the prospects in things we really need. Starting pitching.
Rebecca,
I put my money on Italy today. We’ll see how that works out for me…
Who is the programming monkey who put Spain v Italy on ESPN and Indy cars on ABC?
Idiotic.
any news about the game?
John: Should be interesting. Spain’s the better team, but they have a history of pulling a Cubs/Red Sox in competition.
You can always make a trade for an outfielder. You don’t have to find a replacement by free agency.
How about Matt Holiday? He’ll likely be on the market. Like any Colorado player, he has bad home/road splits, but he’s still a really good player.
I will have to check this spinoff out despite myself.
BBB I didn’t know the great Kelly Taylor was going to be on it, I’m not gonna lie infact alot of peoplewould be lieing if they didn’t admit they liked 90210, whether you was a Brenda Walsh fan, Kelly Taylor or Aundrea Zuckerman, or for the ladies a Brandon Walsh, Dylan McKay, Steve Sanders…that show got everybody to watch I’m curious to see the new 2008 version.
90210?
maybe they should do a remake of “the gilmore girls”
Bad comparison. Alex has been getting intentionally walked to get the the ’stache.
That’s not at all a bad comparison. A-Rod walked 95 times in 2007 when he had the season of his life. You would think he would’ve had more because he didn’t have the greatest protection behind him.
Abreu walked just 84 times last season hitting in front of A-Rod and he’s on pace to walk just 60 times this season.
Abreu is on the decline and it is clear to anyone who wants to pay attention.
“I really like Pat the Bat. But I’m not sure how he would respond to NY. Before Howard and Utley emerged and Rollins said “we’re the team to beat,†he was under a big microscope in Philly and seemed to handle it very poorly”
Nice take…but don’t you think that in NY with ARod, Jeter, et. al. it would be the same situation as Philly, now? He wouldn’t be “the straw that stirs the drink” in NYC.
I mean this guy is really “turning it on” the L3 years and will be 32…give him 5…same as giving Bobby 2, with much better offensive numbers.
I think “Saved By the Bell – The Next Generation” will actually end up being better than the new 90210.
ps…I love the emphatic European hand gestures by these Spanish and Italian soccer (ahem, i mean “football”) players.
Yup, and I like to bet on the underdogs and cheer for them, since I don’t have a favorite team…
Made it real fun yesterday with the bets on Russia!
Fat Free no offense to GG but 90210 was the s…
Ollie,
Agree 100%
All these suggestions for possible replacements for Abreu are a downgrade.
Abreu isn’t done. He’s the perfect hitter in front of A Rod and an excellent defensive outfielder, no matter what everyone thinks about his “wall” problems.
He’s not going to get offered a 5 year deal. Someone even suggested he will get a 7 year deal. If that happens I want his agent’s number, maybe he can get me a 2-3 year deal. Seriously, let’s belogical. Some other team may offer him 3-4 years. If he wants to stay here he’ll take our 2-3 year offer. Its that simple.
“How about Matt Holiday? He’ll likely be on the market. Like any Colorado player, he has bad home/road splits, but he’s still a really good player.”
I guess you’re ready to part with Hughes for him. The guy only finished 2nd in the MVP voting.
And he’s a LF.
And just because Bobby isn’t walking 100 times a yr doesn’t mean he isn’t working counts, working pitchers, giving everyone behind him a better look.
Zach they’re doing another SBTB …they got to stop w/ that, they ruined it the first 2 times already.
Burrell can barely play an adequate LF in a bandbox in Philly and you want him to play RF in Yankee stadium?
Ok. I guess when someone hates Bobby they really hate Bobby.
hey guys! Yankees are back on!
Abreu had a career year in runs scored and your talkin about his bb’s being low? Maybe pitchers are just throwing more strikes cause his home run numbers are down.
For a weird reason race cars get better ratings than soccer.
Ollie: I would give up Kennedy or Betances to get Nady, but not both and definitely not Melancon or Montero.
Ever since Pittsburgh fired Littlefield and had the new guy (Huntington?) step in, they’ve been extremely greedy in trade negotiations. Not just with us and Damaso Marte, but with numerous parties interested in Bay. But eventually, these guys will start getting closer to free agency and Pittsburgh will have no choice but to lower their demands. I mean it’s not like they’re going to re-sign any of these players, so might as well get something back while they can.
If I were Cash I would at least consider giving them a good package of prospects if they’re willing to throw in Marte, or perhaps even LHP Gorzelanny, with Nady. I am as big a fan of the resurgence on the farm as anyone, but at some point you’ve got to use some of these prospects to improve the big club. Also, since pitching is such a strength on the farm right now and position players are the weakness, some of the pitching talent seems like the thing to part with if we were going to make a trade.
I don’t care who’s playing Right.
I just want to see CC in pinstripes and another stud bullpen arm.
We can always find someone to play Right.
BBB,
Cash wouldn’t give up those guys for Santana. And now he’s going to trade those valuable guys for a decent but not superstar RF?
stark wait till next season.
Gilmore Girls was the most overrated show on TV. What man could sit thru that and not kill themselves?
http://tinyurl.com/5duvbz
MIKE & MADDOG ARE BREAKING UP
I could see them getting Nady in a Marte deal but I don’t see the Yanks dealing those top guys. But maybe the Yanks value those players less than they get written up.
,…Holy Mark Teixeira
what time will it start back?
“Burrell can barely play an adequate LF in a bandbox in Philly and you want him to play RF in Yankee stadium?”
RJax played RF for years…as I remember…didn’t realize we needed an excellent defensive RF to win WS.
Burrell L3: .263/.401/.528/.929 330 BB/ 369 K
(32 HR/110 RBI)…AGE 32 in ’09.
Sign CC, Burrell & Tex for The New Yankee Stadium!!!
what did Tex do?
If I have to see Billy Traber one more time instead of a real lefty I may cry.
Mike and the Dog aren’t breaking up. It’s all part of negotiations.
It looks like this season Jeter and Arod have more of a friendly relationship.. They run together now, they talk to each other and it even looks likes Jeter has given A-rod some more respect..
Brandon – the great Kelly Taylor indeed!
I’m a chick but she was always my homegirl over Brenda, who I found selfish and annoying. I actually thought Andrea would make the best guidance counselor, but Gabrielle Carteris is probably like 80 by now and thus couldn’t pull off the “young and cool” vibe they’re likely going for, lol.
Please don’t ever compare Pat B to Reggie ever again.
I beg you.
“And just because Bobby isn’t walking 100 times a yr doesn’t mean he isn’t working counts, working pitchers, giving everyone behind him a better look.”
He’s still working counts, but his numbers don’t justify him being a No.3 hitter.
And those 100 walks? Well, that was one of Abreu’s biggest strengths as a player, because his power had diminished. If his .OBP also diminishes, you have, well a diminishing player.
Would I give up Hughes for Holliday? No. But Jayson Stark said earlier this year that the Rockies would consider prospects at the lower level of the minors – though real high-ceiling players – for Holliday. Is that really true? Have no idea.
Signing Abreu last year for 1-year was a no-brainer. But you don’t want to sign an aging, declining player to a 3-4 year deal. No thanks, I’ll pass.
You can’t sign a player to a long term deal just because there isn’t anyone better. Explore all options.
looks like game on in maybe five minutes. Tarp’s off and Cincinnati’s pitcher is warming up.
Let’s bash this bullpen so I can leave the apartment and enjoy the day instead of drinking it away. I’d rather drink it away at a bar.
I could see them getting Nady in a Marte deal but I don’t see the Yanks dealing those top guys. But maybe the Yanks value those players less than they get written up.
Extremely doubt it, infact if anything watching Nady in Pittsburgh they are not trading him and Cashman watching Marte does not want to repeat the same crap he did. Damaso was Yankee and years ago was traded for UT Enrique Wilson because the Yankees needed a bench bat. He’s not going to repeat the same BS.
Brenda was a female dog.
Kelly Kapowski was a great addition to 90.
Game on.
“Nice take…but don’t you think that in NY with ARod, Jeter, et. al. it would be the same situation as Philly, now? He wouldn’t be “the straw that stirs the drink†in NYC.”
Actually, you make a good point. Thinking back, that’s kind of exactly how it went with Abreu. But how is Pat’s arm though? And also don’t have numbers in front of me, but iirc he didn’t have a very good season last year, or at least had an inconsistent one. He is doing great this year but I always worry about the contract year factor.
Marte would be a perfect addition to this bullpen.
“Please don’t ever compare Pat B to Reggie ever again.
I beg you.”
LOL, I apologize profusely…just meant that Reggie was not a solid defensive RF…and we desperately need RH hitters.
Tex with 3 HRs today…
BBB I find that so hilarious Kelly Taylor (love thatgirl muahzz) advising the kids of the new 90210 what to do in life.
Is it raining hard enough to call the game? Otherwise the bullpen of probably Ramirez, Farnsworth and Rivera will come in to hold onto the lead. Cueto with an ERA>5 shuts us down and Cabrera can’t get Posada home from 3rd with one out. Why can’t this team play to it’s capability and salary? Why do we want to resign the likes of Abreu, Mussina, Giambi and not get younger talent. In fact if it looks like we’re out of the playoffs Abreu and Mussina might be tradeable to a contender for some minor leaguers. Giambi wouldn’t be with his 5M buyout.
Burrell is an awful defensive outfielder. And that is in LF in a bandbox in Philly.
No way he could play RF in NY.
He is also one of those guys who won’t age well since he’s slow and unathletic and destined for DH.
Cueto is out and Boston and Tampa Bay are both loosing. This is all good.
the streak continues
Burrell has finally found a home in Philly as it is. Hitting behind Rollins, Utley and Howard?
I think he has some RBI shots.
You gotta look at little Manny playing for the Cards. Brian Barton.
A few runs here would make the incoming Edwar-Kyle show watchable.
“Actually, you make a good point. Thinking back, that’s kind of exactly how it went with Abreu. But how is Pat’s arm though? And also don’t have numbers in front of me, but iirc he didn’t have a very good season last year, or at least had an inconsistent one. He is doing great this year but I always worry about the contract year factor.”
His numbers are “trending up” over his career…much better K/BB as he “matures” L3(with this 1/2 year extrapolated):
.263/.401/.528/.929 330 BB/ 369 K
(32 HR/110 RBI)…AGE 32 in ‘09.
Abreu’s career OBP is .405. His OBP this season is just .333.
Keep in mind that Melky Cabrera’s career OBP is .335.
That gives you an idea just how much Abreu has diminished this season. I don’t want another aging player on the decline to get a multi-year deal.
Let’s please not say anything rash about early-90′s Shannon Doherty, regardless of her difficult personality.
I believe she appeared at the 1992 Republican National Convention and read the Pledge of Allegiance.
“Cueto is out and Boston and Tampa Bay are both loosing. This is all good.”
It’s early.
This is all good.
We got the BP coming up I’d say right now it’s 50/50 w/ a 1-0 game
…Are we going to hit a home run ever again? Three games, 5.2 innings now, we’re home run less!
um…abreu only got 2 strikes????
See now, Pat the Bat would have walked there, and Nady would have hit a line drive double!
haha, j/k, but couldnt resist after all the rain delay talk about Bobby’s future with the team
“You gotta look at little Manny playing for the Cards. Brian Barton.”
Brian Barton could have been a rocket scientist
So trade for a top young RF, Franco.
Part with Hughes and Kennedy for a Rios type.
The Yanks will never ever do it but it is good fodder.
“See now, Pat the Bat would have walked there, and Nady would have hit a line drive double!”
LOL
Did anyone else notice Bobby got punched out on the 2nd strike??
The Yanks will resign Bobby because they don’t want to give out long term deals to people like Pat the Bat and I think Bobby will take a 3 yr deal which in this market is short term.
The Yanks can overpay for the shorter years which I think they will do in this case.
So it’s not just me, there were only two strikes on Bobby?
boy, Tiffani Amber Thiessen sure fell off the face of the earth.
I really would like to see Melrose place remake. Marica Cross held up – sorta speak, but everyone else hit the wall
YES screwd up the Bobby at bat.
He threw strike 1 on the first pitch and they put up 1-0.
Ollie,
Is reading a problem for you? I’ve said several times already that they don’t need to make a long term commitment to an outfielder for next season.
They just need a stopgap until one of their own kids like Jackson is ready.
Why is that so hard for you to comprehend?
Did Giambi dye the patch during the delay?
the first pitch was a called strike but the YES guy missed it and put it at 2-0 instead of a 1-1 count. Come on guys.. pay attention haha
what does gameday say? three strikes or two
BEHOLD THE POWER OF THE ‘STACHE!
Would Jeter have scored from 2nd on Matsui’s single to right? Abreu, is in his declining years and his strong right arm has been inaccurate, plus with Jeter on first, as a lefty Abreu can’t move him over and strikes out instead.
“So it’s not just me, there were only two strikes on Bobby?”
First pitch was a strike, not a ball – YES mistakenly called it a ball.
WOO HOOOO BIG G!!!!
Nick Shannon Doherty was one of the hottest girls in the early …wait a sec. STACHE’ !!!!!!
anyway early 90′s but damn for some reason you had the feeling that she would attempt to kill you in your sleep.
STACHE…
what is that strange crooked looking thing in the boxscore? I think I have seen it before, but its been a long time!
someone else: Thanks!
Go stache Go!!
Holy two out rally!
FEAR THE STACHE!
I think that the newly dyed stache has gotten Jason out of his slump.
4-0 Yanks. The bats are alive again
haah TK.. crooked numbers are making a comeback in the Bronx..
Thank goodness. I’m much happier to see that opposite field hit from Giambi than a home run.
That was very good situational hitting by Giambi. They bring in a lefty to face him. The outfield is overshifted playing him to pull. And he doesn’t try to do too much and just takes the ball the other way.
He needs to do more of that with RISP.
w00t
Apparently the Yankees offense just needed to be watered in order to get going.
the feast or famine offense is back.
HIP HIP!!!
Yaaaay runs!!!
And off Jeremy Affeldt is even better…anyone remember when Farnsworth whooped his azz while with Detroit? LMAO now I wanna see a vid of that.
Our “Golden Oldees” are mashing today…BoSox 0 Cards 3..Top 7
BoSox 0 Cards 2…sorry
nice to have 2 consecutive hits with RISP
Fran,
It could be the addition of the soul patch also — I guess we’ll never know. Maybe we should have Pete put up a poll:
Which is the slumpbuster?
1. Soul patch
2. Just for Men
Did I just hear that correctly?
Kay is MCing the home run derby?
“to the point where it’ll annoy you”
um, Kay….
How did we lose to this offense the last 2 days?
I walk out of the room and come back to see we alredy have 2 outs. Nice!!
Holy Edwar. Blink, and you missed it.
NICE inning by Edwar.
um, Kay….
Just be glad it ain’t Sterling ..HUH!….IT IS HIGHHHHH IT IS FARRRR IT ISSSSSSSSS GONNNNNNNNNNNNNNE !
Great job by Edwar
The Yanks offense need subpar pitching to break out. They shouldn’t be ashamed. Volquez and Cueto are studs. They should be ashamed for yesterday.
GJ Edwar!! Nice quick inning.
Now the question is do they try to get a 2nd inning out of him?
A number of people were insisting that Cashman made a mistake not getting a lefty reliever during free agency.
One of the guys people wanted the yankees to sign was Jeremy Affeldt.
He has a 4.54 ERA and just gave up big hits to Giambi and Matsui – both lefty batters. Exactly the kind of hitters you sign an Affeldt to get out.
Throwing money at relievers in the free agent market just doesn’t work. Paying a mediocre veteran pitcher a lot of money doesn’t make him any better.
“I’ve said several times already that they don’t need to make a long term commitment to an outfielder for next season.”
Because a lot of good free agents take 1 yr deals??
I guess you would be happy with Corey Patterson in RF. Or maybe Jason Lane?
Give it a rest.
They are not going into season 1 of the new stadium with a subpar RF especially with all that dough coming off the books.
You hate Bobby, Franco. Congrats. Be prepared to live with him for another 3 years.
tonyb – lol, but that is a good poll question!
Cashmans mistake was trading Marte for Enrique Wilson.
Affeldt absolutely blows from what I’ve seen…who wanted the Yankees to sign him, Steve Phillips?
“Affeldt absolutely blows from what I’ve seen…who wanted the Yankees to sign him, Steve Phillips?”
LOL
It has been more feast than famine over the past 12 games.
You can’t win every game.
Farnsy warning. warming.
Actually, I’m not sure there’s a difference.
I don’t remember anyone with a brain say sign Affeldt.
Sometimes you got to trade for a top guy.
Farnsworth is a give up 1 or 2 run guy. Not 4.
Praying…
This bullpen could be top notch if they actually get Marte. Versatile. Deep. A lot of different looks. And that is before Bruney comes back.
I hope the new 90210 brings back Brenda. She needs the work.
Dude, Dusty Baker is a weirdo. Why leave the lefty in to pitch to Jeter and then take him out when a lefty comes up to bat in Abreu? Not that I’m complaining, but what a strange guy.
You hate Bobby, Franco. Congrats. Be prepared to live with him for another 3 years.
Don’t bet on it. Cashman would be a moron to sign Abreu to a three-year deal.
Before you start throwing names out there, you should find out what the market is during the offseason.
If he’ll take a one-year deal, bring him back. Otherwise, let him walk and take the draft pick as compensation.
People often complain about this team being slow, old, and un-energetic. That’s what happens when you commit to so many aging players on the decline.
BBB–Bobby’s having trouble hitting righties right now.
There are some rumors of the Yankees targeting some LHP named Matt Schweitzer from the Indy league Mike Ashmore from ThunderThoughts reported this (supposively this kid is tearing up that Indy league)
See?
“Throwing money at relievers in the free agent market just doesn’t work”
that’s why i was surprised the yankees passed on craig breslow when the twins picked him up on waiverslast month.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....yerId=6365
“See?”
He, uh, smoked that pretty hard.
LOL yup. And here I thought he was having trouble hitting everyone, not just righties.
I have to stop watching Youkilisp at-bats…
He always doubles or homers when I stop to watch him.
wait… does this mean…Farnie the Carnie?
I’m surpised you’re all still watching the Yankee game when there’s a thrilling nil-nil soccer match on. Spain is looking really… really… zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
Yes, it’s Farnsy time.
Abreu has earned his money plus. You don’t kick a guy for going into a slump. I told someone yesterday. Yankee fans here complain win or lose. At least its predictable!
7.0 9 3 1 1 5
ho hum.
livan hernandez keeps rolling along.
WELL HERE WE GO ASSUME YOUR POSITIONS THAT ROLLERCOASTER RIDE CALLED KYLE FARNSWORTH IS PITCHING
Nick: I’m flippingg during commercials. The ref in that game makes Friday’s home plate umpire actually look decent!
You can’t be serious not trusting Farnsworth with 4 runs. (Not to tempt fate of course.) What does he have to do stand on his head and spit nickels to get some respect?
randy he has a 5.79 ERA what is it that you like so much about Livan ?
Mark,
It has nothing to do with Abreu’s slump. He’s 34 years old and his production is clearly in decline.
“7.0 9 3 1 1 5
ho hum.
livan hernandez keeps rolling along.”
Where were you when he was 0-3 with a 9.38 ERA in 6 starts?
Livan Hernandez sucks. He’s worse than Rasner or Giese.
If you’re happy with his production, we might as well call up Igawa and tell him to go 7 innings.
randy, I swear to got I was about to post asking why you hadn’t commented on Livan’s performance. I should have set my watch to it!
I want to see Farnsworth jam the ball down Griffey Jrs. throat. I guess we should be honored he agreed to play at the Stadium.
…This is why we don’t like Farnsy. And also why we’re glad we got those other runs.
“Abreu has earned his money plus. You don’t kick a guy for going into a slump. I told someone yesterday. Yankee fans here complain win or lose. At least its predictable!”
Bro, we’re all Abreu fans as long as he’s in Pinstripes but he’ll be 35 and his numbers seem to say he’s declining.
Again, does anyone (beside GFranco) not think we have to get younger in the next couple of off-seasons?
Well that’s what I wanted to see.
Much love for you Griffey
Well you just knew that Kyle had to give up a run. Maybe he wanted Mo to have a chance to get a save.
Man, Farnsworth would be a good pitcher if he got a better brain.
Farnsy, you are a total headcase!!
nice of farnsy to set up the save situation.
ridiculous.
wow. Farns continues to give up the longball at an ASTOUNDING rate. Pull yourself together and get this next out pls…
Rebecca that’s why I said we can trust him with FOUR runs.
Ha ha.
WTF YOU REACHED OUT FOR IT !
…FARNSWORTH YOU IDIOT
I never wish injury on anybody, but getting rid of Farnsworth would be addition by subtraction.
Robertson, here you come!!!
FARNSWORTH TOOK HIMSELF OUT!!! NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, WE WIN!
Will our Manager finally admit thet Krazy Kyle is giving up HRs at an HISTORIC PACE?
Farnsworth is unbelievable…he hates to have an outing without giving up a jack
Wow, Tim Lincecum has given up 3 in 4 innings to the ROYALS, and has the bases loaded and no-one out….
Griffey sill hits the fastball. Farnsworth, did he just pitch him 3 straight fastballs? Did he shake off any signs?Can he ever be trusted to have a 1-2-3 inning?
Hope he goes on the DL. Farns is hopeless. Can’t get out of 1 inning without giving up a hit or HR.
Ugh – that is not good.
Are people still going on about Abreu?
Obviously I’m kidding here, but still… Kyle on the DL wouldn’t be such a horrible thing…
Tell you what I can’t stand about Farnsworth. When he blows things he has a very “no big deal” attitude after the game.
Oh sweet, MO time!
Kyle obviously hurt. He looked disgusted. Wonder who will be the new 8th inning buy if Kyle goes on the DL. Veras?
“Abreu has earned his money plus. You don’t kick a guy for going into a slump. I told someone yesterday. Yankee fans here complain win or lose. At least its predictable!â€
Not sure I agree with earning his money plus. He has a .765 OPS, a declining walk rate and a fear of the rightfield wall.
He’s still a good player. But signing a 35-year old player to a 3-year deal would be foolish.
Phone call from the Bronx for David Robertson.
Thumb looks pretty swollen to me.
I meant guy
Oh here goes MK about why a pitcher would go after a ball – the guy who has never played a day in his life.
Honestly, he really is such a dumbass sometimes – especially considering he’d already said when it happened he said it was instinctive.
Well I was just about to say Griffey’s HR gives Mo a chance at a save.
Now Farnsworth decides to try and catch a screaming line drive with his pitching hand. Not smart.
For those that think Farnsworth to the DL is a good thing, you’re not realizing Farnsworth’s value, especially with Joba in the rotation and Bruney hurt and Hawkins being terrible. This is NOT good.
Hmm, this is interesting. Looks like a cut, but a little swollen, too.
When I say earned his money plus I mean since he’s played with the Yankees. I expect him to get back on track this season.
I don’t agree with Girardi bringing in Rivera here with 2 outs and a 3 run lead. No need for a 1+ inning save here for a 39 year old closer when there’s a decent cushion. You’re telling me Veras or Ohlendorf couldn’t get one out, and Mo is still there as a safety net if things go wrong.
Thumb looks pretty swollen to me.
looks broken to me
Yeah, I don’t really see how Farnsworth going on the DL is a good thing either.
Don’t worry Miggs, he won’t be on the DL, looks like some broken skin near his pinkie.
I’m kidding, but what a perfect way for him to get hurt. Reaching up with his bare hand when he shouldn’t and then calling out the trainer himself.
Damnit. Maybe if he’s hurt, we can get some more versatility from our bullpen to the point that we can afford to keep a lefty like Traber in the pen.
I’m sick of Farnsworth, but I don’t want him to be hurt.
What’s wrong with Farnsworth-strain his neck looking at Griffeys homer? And Yes , Veras will probably be the 8th inning guy.
Got to love Kyle. Can’t get 3 outs with a 4 run lead.
At least Mo gets the save opportunity, I’m sure that was Farnsworth intention and to give Griffey a last Yankee Stadium memory gift.
Why not let someone else get the last out of the 8th?
Why extend Rivera when you don’t need to?
Farnsworth is garbage. I’ll be thrilled if he goes on the DL. Call up Patterson. Enough of watching Farnsworth serve up gopher balls.
miggs, that ‘line drive’ bounced before the mound, did it not?
“I don’t agree with Girardi bringing in Rivera here with 2 outs and a 3 run lead. No need for a 1+ inning save here for a 39 year old closer when there’s a decent cushion. You’re telling me Veras or Ohlendorf couldn’t get one out, and Mo is still there as a safety net if things go wrong.”
Off day tomorrow?
miggs, I don’t think any of us think it’s good.
That thumb looked pretty immobile to me. Broken or at least dislocated, I’m guessing. Could be completely wrong.
It looks like we might get to see one those young bullpen arms soon. Or Chris Britton.
Does Farnsworth really care about a 1,2,3 inning? We’re up 4 runs, just throw strikes. 4-1 now, no big deal. If it’s a 1 run game and he gives up the bomb then it’s a story. He’s done that before and then you have a right to gripe, not up 4-0. You pitch differently when it’s 1-0 or 4-0.
Miggs you’re right. Yankee fans are so used to kicking Kyle they really speak without thinking of what he has done overall for the Yankees this season. And yes in terms of the state of the pen the Yankees do need Farnsworth in the mix.
Farnsworth is a great pitcher,who can not be relied upon in any important situation.
very frustrating.
That’s 10 homers in less than 40 innings. That’s beyond bad. That’s absurd.
“Don’t worry Miggs, he won’t be on the DL, looks like some broken skin near his pinkie.”
Farnsworth has been good lately.
I see nothing wrong with calling in Mo. I don’t trust any other guy out there and what’s the big deal? Mo hasn’t pitched in a couple of days & tomorrow is an off day.
Chris Britton is on the DL.
As much as I curse at Kyle, I hope he is alright
Thank you Mo.
If all Farns has is a cut, he won’t go on the DL. Say what you want about his pitching and there are a lot of bad things that can be said but I imagine it would take a very serious injury to get him to go on the DL.
“That’s 10 homers in less than 40 innings. That’s beyond bad. That’s absurd.”
That says it all about him.
Knowing Cashman the next call up will be Chris Britton or Steve White.
I can’t quite believe people are happy about a yankee player being injured – even Farnsworth.
Good move bringing in Rivera….Put an end to things before anything really gets started…..View as a must win….
Tight game in Boston.
And it just got tighter. Ankiel tripped and now Crisp is at 3rd with nobody out.
Crap.
Joel Pineiro…pitching a great game and Ankiel falls down…leadoff 3B for Crisp.
That homerun didn’t matter. It wasn’t a terrible pitch, it kept low but went over the plate and Griffey Jr. got to it. So what? Griffey is a great hitter. You guys are making way too much over an insignificant homerun other than the fact it might be Jr.’s last in Yankee Stadium.
“Why not let someone else get the last out of the 8th?
Why extend Rivera when you don’t need to?”
He’s had the last 2 days off and tomorrow is an off day.
I don’t think his arm will fall off from the extra 5 pitches/.
Rebecca read the comments, more than one poster seem overjoyed that Farnsworth’s season could be over.
I don’t particularly like Farnsworth and I complain when he comes in, but we need him. Yes I said it. We need Farnsworth.
Ugh, Ankiel just turned a likely out into a triple for CoCo Crisp. No outs.
Isn’t Britton on the DL?
Farnsworth has given up 10 home runs in 34 innings.
Only around 20 pitchers in the AL have given up more home runs.
All of them are starters.
Farnsworth is giving up 2.6 HR/9 innings. That’s unbelievable, especially for a relief pitcher.
But Girardi trusts him so his actual performance on the field doesn’t matter.
I hope he’s not hurt. I’d never wish injury on anyone. But they need to stop pitching him in high leverage situations. He’s the exact same pitcher as he’s been the past 2 seasons in NY. Only now he’s giving up home runs at twice the rate he was last season.
MrMulligan (Pat Burrell Fan) ,
I’m certainly not complaining about Rivera being in the game, but a few years ago the Yankees made a concerted effort to reduce the number of 1+ inning appearances Rivera had, as the thought was it was better for him as he got older. If it was a one run game I could understand it. Even with the off day, no need to push him more than one inning imo.
2-1 Cards. But Ankiel HORRIBLY misplays a fly ball in center and Crisp gets a lead off triple tolead off the bottom of the 8th. Unbelievable.
TKinDC forgot about the off day.
Disregard that comment.
Britton is on the DL.
And Matsui looks hurt.
A few people need to write “Regardless of my personal feelings about him, I recognize that a Farnsworth injury is an overall negative development for the short-term success of the Yankees” 1000 times on the blackboard.
You can use abbreviations if you’d like.
You had to know if we win today Boston’s not losing.
Steve White was DFA’d – no one claimed him. But he’s no longer on the 40 man roster.
They DFA’d him now because he’s pitching so badly and they thought no one would claim him. They wanted to get him off the 40 man as there was no chance they’d call him up any time soon given how bad he’s been this season.
Why couldn’t Ramirez pitch the 8th inning also-only threw 9 pitches in the 7th?
Yes Farnsworth is OK with a 4 run lead, but I bet no one in this blog feels comfortable with him coming in to protect a 1-2 run lead. He just isn’t a thinking mans pitcher- and remember he came from Atlanta, when we signed him to that bloated contract. Who was the relief pitcher from Atlanta that we signed as FA and was terrible and out of baseball the next season?
“But Girardi trusts him so his actual performance on the field doesn’t matter.”
I think the fact that we have seen a fair amount of Veras in the 8th lately goes to show that Girardi is beginning to think about other options.
We can only hope
Damn the ‘Stache had a nice day…2-2 in Boston
To make things interesting Rays losing by 1 bottom of the 9th. Runners on 1st and 2nd.
“randy, I swear to got I was about to post asking why you hadn’t commented on Livan’s performance. I should have set my watch to it!”
nick in sf
cape cod has gotten so busy i’m having trouble keeping track of livan.
it’s easier for some reason on days like today.
hernandez represents a path cashman chose not to take so i think it’s kind of interesting to follow his success.
the best part was the seven innings.
did coco just hit an inside the parker?
CB – if Farnsworth does go on the DL who do you think they would call up to replace him? Is Robertson close to ready? If not I’m guessing it would be Patterson?
Spain and Italy still scoreless in extra time.
just saw the replay…nevermind…
terribly play by ankiel.
maybe he’ll have another breakdown and have to switch positions. AGAIN.
Hit a triple. Someone sac’d him in.
“hernandez represents a path cashman chose not to take so i think it’s kind of interesting to follow his success.
the best part was the seven innings.”
A path that thank god he didn’t take.
We don’t need a 5.50+ ERA starter, even if he throws 500 innings. 5.50 ERA is horrid.
randy, it’s a moot point, Livan would never have signed with a team that takes candy and ice cream out of the clubhouse. He didn’t flee Cuba for that.
Looks like we have this one in the bag.
Well we’l pick up a game on the Rays anyway.
Mo.
Seriously. We are not getting swept by the Reds.
Ankiel leading off the 9th..a HR would “make up” for his horrendous defense last inning.
Houston hanging tough…3-2 going to the bottom of the 9th.
St. L bullpen not helping things…WOW…Pedroia was OUT @ 2B…OUT
BBB,
Should Farnsworth need to go on the DL I’d guess it’ll be Patterson who gets the call. He’s been pitching well lately.
I don’t know if they want to call up Dave Robertson yet. He’s really dominating hitters in AAA but is still walking more hitters than you’d like to see.
I think they’ll also need another reliever to replace Traber. They haven’t used him for any significant outs since he’s been up – he’s just burning a hole in the pen. Given the short starts they may get with their current starters they could use another arm who can be used more often.
Not there yet.
The Reds don’t know they’re supposed to be rolling over vs. Mo.
We desperately need another arm in the pen. No matter what anyone says, Mo should not be coming into this kind of game in the eighth.
Mo I love ya but brush off one of these guys
Mo please don’t make this interesting
Mulligan Houston won the game.
um..Mo? whacha doing
Farnsworths inability to get 3 outs is startling.
Mo, please don’t do this to us.
Okay, that’s better.
And he was out.
Jeez…Patterson can really fly down that line.
The last thing this team needs is another DL trip for an important player and Farnsworth is important. Sad to say.
he was out bad call
Uh oh. Dunn up.
Corey’s out.
So they’re kind of pitching around Manny to load the bases. Lowell on deck.
before this game is possibly tied up, why did Rivera pitch yesterday when we lost 6-0, and again why not use Ramirez for two innings today?
meanwhile up north…
mannny about to do what he does.
Dunn is not the guy you want up right now. Mo needs to be very careful here. He’s got a lot of power.
Card’s pitcher about to walk in the go ahead run…
This is sad.
oh Thank god.
why wouldn’t patterson steal second to stay out of the dp?
Sox just beat the Cards.
Wow. St. Louis. So so so not cool.
thanks st. louis. thanks a friggin’ lot!
Consumate professional.
Nerves of steel.
“Sox just beat the Cards.”
The game’s over in the 8th? When was that rule change made?
I’d say that game is over. Unless Ankiel gets up and finds a way to atone for that missed catch.
Maybe the Cards should make Pinerio the 8th inning guy.
Wow. St. Louis. So so so not cool.
They won 2 straight, we had our chance yesterday and we blew it.
Girardi wants this game as badly as we do. He’s using Rivera for that reason.
We’ve got an off-day tomorrow. He’ll have thrown twice in four days. That’s fine.
maybe papelsmear will give up a longball?
looks like the cards just walked the sox into the lead.
That pitcher for the cards walked in the winning run.
“why wouldn’t patterson steal second to stay out of the dp?”
I agree – I would have sent him.
No idea what Dusty is thinking but perhaps it was to keep the first base hole open for Dunn? He’s a dead pull hitter.
Micheal STFU
No MK, we can do without any potential drama, thank you.
“The game’s over in the 8th? When was that rule change made?”
You realize Papelbon is coming in the game at home?
Guess not.
Um, Kay? The odds that Hopper and Keppinger get on are probably pretty bad.
damn red sox winning 3-2
I love MO, winning this cy youn award this year buddy!!!!!!!
Game. Good.
Can’t beat MO!!!!
Yay! We win.
Mo didn’t look incredibly sharp, for Mo, anyway, but Ir eally can’t complain.
Rivera’s got to be the All-Star closer.
“They won 2 straight, we had our chance yesterday and we blew it.”
And Friday we blew it. We almost blew it today.
Mo…is da GREATEST
““Sox just beat the Cards.â€
The game’s over in the 8th? When was that rule change made?”
When Papelbon became closer.
Mo had to throw 31 pitches for that 4 out save. Those are just not good outings for him to have in June.
I heart Mo.
“You realize Papelbon is coming in the game at home?
Guess not.”
I agree. It is over in Beantown.
“Mulligan Houston won the game.”
Awesome…now Ankiel needs to atone
Tampa lost, thats good.
Wait a second, Pete Abe has the day off and so does Kim Jones?!?!?!
We are the only team that can beat Dancin Papelbon at Fenway.
I’m thinking Francona has enough class to choose Mo to close out the ASG since it’s the last game at the Stadium.
I really hope Farnsworth is okay though. Especially because they’re not ready to call up Robertson yet. Ideally, Kyle’s injury will not be serious and he will not need to go on the DL, and then Patterson will come up anyway when Traber goes.
Kim is on vacation . And it looks like it will be over in Boston. We choked this weekend.
Weird that he didn’t run out Edwar in the 8th. And save Kyle for 9th. And give Mo an extra day.
Ankiel suxs…
Dumb move by LaRussa calling in the bullpen when Pinero’s pitch count was very low. As bad as the misplay by Ankiel was, that was dumb.
kim jones isn’t there? who’s doing the interviews, etc..??
Oakland is sticking around in the wild card race, I wish they would go away.
Rock on Mo. Good win.
Hope the Farns is alright
Rooting for Tampa to lose in June?
Is this bizarro world???
Yeah, I don’t think the Cards have much of a chance to come back without Albert. At least Houston won though, I didn’t trust them to hold onto that 1 run lead any farther than I could throw Carlos Lee.
Bring up David Robertson who has done well. 43 so’s in 29 innings with no homers allowed.
who’s doing the interviews, etc..??
Gordon Damer
“Rooting for Tampa to lose in June?”
They are ahead of us, idiot.
Rayblay – Gordon Damer from ESPN radio 1050. He ws there yesterday also
Ankiel like an idiot swings at three fastballs out of the zone. Nice game.
Sonny, it’s not weird at all, it was a save situation and they have an off day tomorrow. And Mo was rested.
V June 22nd, 2008 at 5:04 pm
“Rooting for Tampa to lose in June?â€
They are ahead of us, idiot.
I was being sarcastic. Goes over some peoples heads.
Two players both teams cannot lose.
Mo and Papelbon.
Both pens besides them are terrible.
Ankiel has to feel like the biggest loser. Maybe it’s his steroids karma.
“We are the only team that can beat Dancin Papelbon at Fenway.”
Absolutely correct only guys named Giambi or A-Rod can beat Papelbottom at home.
Anyway, I credit this win to my decision to switch from listening to Iron Maiden to Weezer during the rain delay, lol. Why does every Yankee except Moose always play so poorly when I’m listening to 80s metal?!?
A little Duncan magic???
Papelbon looked like he pitched around Duncan. What a coward.
is it just my tv, or does nancy newman look like she went on a major bender this weekend???
Kennedy gonna pull an opposite field “Bucky Dent”???
lol @ pap, skeered of Chris I see.
“Papelbon looked like he pitched around Duncan. What a coward.”
He is a coward, he looks like he is gonna take a dump in his pants when he has to close against the Yanks.
Kennedy chasing balls above his eyes…
yay. Yanks finally won one. Did we make a pact with the Sux in promising not to gain ground on them?
YES!!!!!
YES!
Tied game
Thanks Papsmear
KENEDDYYYYYYYY!!!!!
HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!
TIED GAME YOU AHOLE PAPELBON!!!!
BLOWN SAVE!!!!!
Adam Kennedy I LOVE U!!!!
Papelbon blows it again!!!!!!!!!
TIE GAME IN BOSTON
Cards just tied the Sox in the top of the 9th
OMG! Papelbon just blew it!
Baseball.
What a game
Oooops… guess Papelbum aint exactly Mariano
lol Tied game …. 3-3 Redsox…. I guess some have spoken too early…..
Chris Duncan is my baby daddy.
Papelbum blows it.
That’s almost better than a Yankee victory.
I guess Papelbon’s fishmouth glare isn’t scaring anyone anymore.
Schumaker is a scrappy lil dude…
Papelbon pays the price for walking someone with 2 outs.
This would be a gift for us to pick up this game.
YES, YES, YES!!! Papelbon just blew it!
LMFAO @ Papsmear.
Adam Kennedy off the wall???
What happened to Papelboners splitter??
are we gonna get to see Papelsmear go nuts in the dugout?
Papelbon never blows games at Fenway. Shocking.
Who closes 4 the CARDS??
Kennedy has always been a good hitter. Remember he was the one who hit that fly ball in Anaheim in game 5 where Bubba Crosby and Gary Sheffield collided that turned that game around and led to the Angels ending our season in 2005.
Billy Bo his splitter splattered.
Eric yeah that’s what happens to cowards. Justice is a pretty thing ain’t it?
Isn’t it Isringhausen?
“Papelbon pays the price for walking someone with 2 outs.”
It’s his fear of anyone named Duncan that did it.
Hmmm too bad they didn’t pinch hit Dave haha.
Thinking Isringhausen is back.
Did the cards have Isringhausen (sp)?
No it’s Ryan Franklin now. Izzy lost the job a few months back and just came off the DL.
Springer.
Who’s the bigger @ssHole, Pimplebutt or ken Griffey? In my book both are about equal.
Let’s go Springer
U, gotta be a tie.
Good news. Okajema up in the Boston pen.
Go Springer, dig deep and find that Dave Duncan magic!
Serious LOLZ even if the Sux win, if Pap-smear closes the ASG we should get together and lynch Francona.
Why is Ken Griffey an A..hole ?
It’s a penalty kick shootout in Spain vs. Italy.
If you want to see what a goal looks like.
And it’s pretty tense.
A path that thank god he didn’t take.
We don’t need a 5.50+ ERA starter, even if he throws 500 innings. 5.50 ERA is horrid.
au contraire
the twins have now won 11 of games 16 when livan pitches.
that would be 11-5 or 6 games over .500.
the yankees are 6 games over .500
i sure would hate having 5 pitchers that the team was 5 games over .500 when they pitched.
the yankees would be 25 games over .500
that would be just awful.
people just don’t understand the value of innings.
nick in sf-
yeah, livan would have asked the state department for asylum from girardi ice cream and candy restrictions.
i’ll bet the first thing that the girardi kids do when they go off to college is load up the dorm refrigerator with ice cream. well maybe after the beer. but just before the candy.
I don;t think Junior is an azzhole to start with, maybe a bit egotistical but egos do come with talent… but Papsmear certainly makes him look like Mother Theresa.
Varitek pop up. One out.
AL from BK on record alone Mo should close out that game. For anyone not watching the game you’ll be happy to know that Papelbon was shown punching the dugout bench. He also looks depressed. Nice sight.
“A path that thank god he didn’t take.
We don’t need a 5.50+ ERA starter, even if he throws 500 innings. 5.50 ERA is horrid.”
forgot the quotation marks
Very nice Mr. Kennedy.
1 more Springer
I’m waiting to hear why is Griffey an a..hole ?
Extra innings coming up!
VAMOS ESPAÑA!
Brandon…
http://sports.aol.com/fanhouse.....s-leaving/
not quite sure what to make of it…its just griffey being usual griffey.
Ah, Arsenal’s great Cesc Fabregas sends Spain through!
That’s drama.
Brandon Griffey Jr. made a point of saying he would never play for the Yankees because he said that when he was a kid and his father played for the Yankees the black kids weren’t allowed to go out on the field and play after games but the white kids were.
He must have been on hallucinogens to dream that one up.
boooooooo Spain, viva Italia!
damn, my dad is definitely throwing something at the tv right now. lol oh well Italy still rules!
Farnsworth got stitching in the webbing between his thumb and forefinger but should be okay.
Er, other finger, but same thing.
randy: What I want to know is how does Livan stay so injury-free, especially relative to his half-bro
Zach as a kid Billy Martin singled him out in Yankee Stadium, Steinbrenner on another ocassion singled out his dad, Griffey is doing what anybody else would do if it happened to you or your son.
Always nice to put the leadoff runner on.
Go Cards.
come on Okie Dokie, give up some runs
No mark that was actually true.
“AL from BK on record alone Mo should close out that game. For anyone not watching the game you’ll be happy to know that Papelbon was shown punching the dugout bench. He also looks depressed. Nice sight.”
Lol thanks Mark 4 the update.
Is that the Billy Martin was mean to him and his brother when his dad was a Yankee story?
Didn’t Griffey Sr. play in the Yankees old timers game last year?
A team’s record when a guy pitches is about as irrelevant a stat as you can come up with. Maybe the Twins do well when Ivan pitches because they know they better score at least 6 or 7 runs to have a prayer?
Yanks starters, even the fill in guys (Rasner, Guise) are doing pretty darn well. Still more concerned about no LHP in the bullpen (Traber doesn’t count, I mean a good one!) and a RH hitter for 1B/DH….
Hughes, Kennedy and Igawa are 0-and-8, 8.60… all the other starters are now 29-13, 3.81
What happened to Ken Griffey Junior as a kid in Yankee Stadium is not a lie, it wasn’t a dream made up, it actually happened to him.
Brandon no offense but I find that an absurd statement. You would refuse to play for the best team in sports because you got yelled at once when you were a kid? Or your dad did?
Griffey Jr. has always played the role of spoiled brat. accusing the Yankees of racism because he couldn’t play on the field, if that’s even true, is equally absurd.
It might be true, Brandon. But its incredibly silly and petty to something Billy Martin (of all people) did 30 years ago, as representative of the entire franchise.
Steinbrenner sent down the word to the clubhouse that children were not to be around anymore…this was in place for weeks…Why Griffey Sr. and Jr. felt they didnt have to abide by the rule when everyone else had to?
and to try and place the race card is just ridiculous!
And couldn’t it just have been because Billy Martin was a mean old crank at times, and nothing to do with race?
Brandon let me say this and then I really don’t care enough to talk any more on it. If anyone believes the Yankees let white kids on the field and not black kids they are as distorted as Griffey Jr. If Martin yelled at him I would bet my last dollar he wasn’t the only one in history Martin yelled at.
Wow, if that happened to me, I’d keep it as a grudge to this day too
Darn.
Onwards to the bottom of the 10th
Griffey Jr. has always played the role of spoiled brat. accusing the Yankees of racism because he couldn’t play on the field, if that’s even true, is equally absurd.
If it’s even true you can’t blame him for not wanting to play for the Yankees that stuff actually does hurt, as a kid to have George Steinbreiner and Billy Martin insult you..you think he’s absurd for standing up for himself ?
Only if you’re the kind of person to think everything is about your race, and nothing about the person just being a jackass, Blargh.
Damn Ankiel.
Ankiel flails like an idiot.
“Steinbrenner sent down the word to the clubhouse that children were not to be around anymore…this was in place for weeks…Why Griffey Sr. and Jr. felt they didnt have to abide by the rule when everyone else had to?
and to try and place the race card is just ridiculous!”
Typical, the race card is very popular for people who have done something wrong. No harm no foul the Yanks never needed Griffey hes got no rings and has been on a perpetual DL stint for a decade.
Billy Martin was a great Yankee and I love him, but no one can deny that he wasn’t exactly racially progressive. Of course he was just a man of his time but that doesn’t mean that he never said or did things that were offensive to the black players and their families. I’m not sure I’d have brought it up if I were Griffey, it does seem kinda sour grapes seeing a) how long ago it was and b) that Martin was a man of his time. I certainly hope he wasn’t insinuating that the Yankees still discriminate today, cause that would be ludicrous. But to be fair, Jr. also had a lot of really nice things to say about A-Rod this weekend so he wasnt being a total ahole.
Al from BK I always felt the same way. When Jr. would jawbone about not playing for the Yankees my thought always was who the hell wants you!
I don’t think he’s absurd for standing up for himself. I think he’s absurd for carrying a grudge about it for 30 years – when every man and his dog knows Billy Martin was a jackass to EVERYONE regardless of sex, race or whatever.
Everyone,
Griff Jr. has, because of his gifted life, never lived a day in the “real world”…gotta think ANYONE yelling at him would be something he’d carry around forever.
Another guy who never lived a day in the “real world”?
Barry Bonds…damn St. L bullpen…TEASE
They just gave Ellsbury a double when the kid grabbed the ball off the field. What’s up with that?
Only if you’re the kind of person to think everything is about your race, and nothing about the person just being a jackass, Blargh.
No I’m actually the opposite about what you said but that Griffey story of what happened to him as a kid is true and guess what no one on the Yankees has denied it. It’s not all rosey in pinstripes past.
Mulligan thanks. I was thinking along the same lines. Griffey Jr. is Bonds Jr.
no way ellsbury doesn’t score…
oh well. at least we got back in the win column today.
Yanks Win!
Now, let’s keep it going this time. No 2-3 game losing streaks.
ESPN must be getting ready to break in from commercial to announce this Sox win…
no one on the Yankees has denied it.
Absolutely false. Steinbrenner denied it the first time it came out of Griffey Jrs. mouth which was many years ago.
Mark- Thanks I never wanted him either my feelings were never hurt. Maybe the Yanks would have wanted a 1996 Ken Griffey Jr. but what became of him no thanks.
I don’t think he’s absurd for standing up for himself. I think he’s absurd for carrying a grudge about it for 30 years – when every man and his dog knows Billy Martin was a jackass to EVERYONE regardless of sex, race or whatever.
And if that man called him the N word what would you say !
sorry, but how is pedroia going to the all-star game? come on….32 RBI 274 avg,.322 obp and under .400 slg
Yah, he’s amazing
“They just gave Ellsbury a double when the kid grabbed the ball off the field. What’s up with that?”
them’s the rules. That’s a ground-rule double.
“Mulligan thanks. I was thinking along the same lines. Griffey Jr. is Bonds Jr.”
Don’t think anyone is as big an A-Hole as Barry…but their “perspective” on life is vastly different from anyone else’s…imagine being coddled from the day you were born.
Lol Drew K’d.
Cards making it interesting.
Brandon if someone called him the n word I would call the guy a bloody fool and assure Griffey Jr. he didn’t speak for the organization.
But nobody’s been accused of calling him the n word. If they did he would have screamed it to the rooftops.
Billy Martin said things that were offensive to everyone. At what point does the man being more often than not a drunken jackass, become a factor in things he said?
I suppose if he honestly believes that it was racially motivated, then I can understand his anger. I just don’t see how you can read everything that’s been written about Billy Martin, and as an adult not come to the conclusion that the man was just a jerk because that’s the kind of person he was. There were plenty of black players on the Yankees during the time Griffy Sr played, did Billy have a problem with all of them too, I wonder?
Mulligan I agree that nobody is as big an ahole as Bonds. I put Jr. somewhere on the same spectrum though. He’s got a chip on his shoulder and carries it around.
Not necessarily everything, but more than one would expect/be willing to admit is influenced by race, be it at the conscious or subconscious level.
Another thing; once a racist, always a racist, or such is how it goes in the mind. If I am convinced that someone is a racist, TRUE OR NOT, I’ll probably keep that opinion for a rather long time. If such is Griffey’s opinion from back then, then regardless of how true or false it was, it’s not surprising for it to remain this way now.
“And if that man called him the N word what would you say !”\
But he didn’t stop quiveling. You are apparently looking for a finger to point.
And how’s that sportsfans?
Cocoa dies at third.
If we’re gonna talk about ballplayers who have been coddled since day 1 because their dads were also good ballplayers, I can’t go any longer without mentioning that fat ungrateful dirtbag Prince Fielder. Talk about scum, after all his dad did for him he won’t even let him see his grandchildren.
yes….i am personally responsible for jinxing the sox that inning.
you guys can thank me later.
Go Cards! Is C. Duncan up in this inning?
“Yah, he’s amazing”
It’s a popularity contest. Varitek, same deal. Kinsler and Mauer are getting jobbed.
I don’t think jeter deserves to start either. But, then again, I can’t really point to an AL SS that’s doing noticeably better.
Griffey Jr. is a reverse racist with a chip on his shoulder. His beef was with Steinbrenner and not going on the field to play. Nobody’s been better to people of the African American persuasion than George. Check out Strawberry and Gooden for two.
I don’t make excuses for immature people with grudges.
Good riddance Griffy Jr. with all your injuries and your racist attitude.
“Talk about scum, after all his dad did for him he won’t even let him see his grandchildren.”
BBB – I believe Fielder stole all his kids $$$ and left his family destitute due to gambling issues, no?
Maybe if John Turturro puts on pinstripes and apologizes to Griffey the whole thing can finally be over?
We need an Okie Dokey Pokie.
Hope Cards win it this inning. I really have things to do!
whew…thank god molina didnt try and stretch that into a double.
oki going for a 2nd inning?
Okajima is really getting hit hard this year
Or Oliver Platt, if you prefer.
But he didn’t stop quiveling. You are apparently looking for a finger to point.
No I’m open minded when I hear things, one thing for sure I would never take a Steinbreiners word, you got to be joking w/ me on that. Ken Griffey Jr. has never been a nuisance or a brat w/ anything in his life except for this, he’s carrying a grudge you ever wonder why ? A stand up person like him has only one grudge and it’s towards Billy Martin who was a great fire cracker manager but a loose cannon and King George who at that time was known as an a.. I listen to actual events, actual stories.
Maybe some of you never ask yourselves the right questions.
“Mulligan I agree that nobody is as big an ahole as Bonds. I put Jr. somewhere on the same spectrum though. He’s got a chip on his shoulder and carries it around.”
I agree 100%…coddled and exulted from the time you were born doesn’t usually make for a great human being.
“It’s a popularity contest. Varitek, same deal. Kinsler and Mauer are getting jobbed.”
Placido Polanco too, he is now hitting over .300 despite getting off to a ghastly, injury riddled start this year. You’d think Detroit fans would represent more but they seem a bit frontrunning to me. Forgetting all about the Tigers in favor of Pist-ons and Wings.
It would be great it Yadier helped out bro Jose again and came across the plate with the winning run.
Big Daddy’s Issues:
“In October 2004, The Detroit News reported that Fielder was suffering from extensive domestic and gambling problems. They relied on court documents from Fielder’s divorce and a lawsuit brought against him by Trump Plaza Hotel and Casinos in New Jersey describing debts to various casinos, credit card companies and banks. [2] Fielder later filed a libel suit against Gannett, the parent company of The Detroit News, and the lead reporter, Fred Girard, accusing them of slander and defamation of character. The suit sought US$25 million in damages and fees. The trial court dismissed the suit and the Michigan Court of Appeals affirmed the decision.[1]“
Griffey Jr. is stand up? Wow I’ve seen a different Griffey Jr. all these years. He’s been known to ignore the press too like his role model in San Fran.
Damn. Have him on the ropes and let him up.
“Placido Polanco too, he is now hitting over .300 despite getting off to a ghastly, injury riddled start this year.”
Sure. Kinsler’s still slugging more, but he’s got that home-park advantage. Is Polanco good on D? I think Kinsler’s not so amazing in the field, but he’s a good hitter. The total package CLEARLY better than Pedroia.
And Varitek is just ridiculous. I don’t care how great they claim he is at calling games, a .715 OPS does not make you an all-star.
Griffey Jr. is stand up? Wow I’ve seen a different Griffey Jr. all these years. He’s been known to ignore the press too like his role model in San Fran.
What does that have to do w/ anything ? Name me something Griffey has done to question his character.
“Maybe if John Turturro puts on pinstripes and apologizes to Griffey the whole thing can finally be over?”
LOL
Damn Cards hitting like the Yanks with RISP…
bases loaded, 2 outs
I’m not saying it isn’t true, Blargh. I’d agree that it did happen. I’m not naive or in denial about some of the less that rosy parts of the Yankees history. I’m just wondering about Griffey’s perception of it, considering what we know of Billy Martin. I thought lots of thing as a kid, that as an adult with an adults rationale I’ve come to realize weren’t true or my perception was flawed.
The only person who could say if its true or not died in 1989 anyway. *shrugs*
Mulligan: I know Cecil had problems with money and didn’t leave his family with much of it, but I’m not sure about the stealing all the kids’ money part. That seems to be one of those things where it depends who you ask. I know he was Prince’s manager and helped him make some money, I don’t know exactly what sort of cut he took. But I always got the impression that Prince considered even a little cut to be too much. Considering how much his dad helped him over the years in establishing his name and career, I always found his attitude a bit ungrateful, not to mention it is downright mean to deprive his kids of a relationship with Grandpa just because you’re mad at him. He won’t even talk to Cecil when he shows up at his games, just has security send him away…
Ladies and Gentleman, here is a classic example of what is foolish about calling games in baseball over before the last out:
“Papelbon is coming in, the game is over!”
“Double for Ellsbury, the game is over!”
In baseball it’s “never over till it’s over” (Yogi). That’s the beauty of basevball, you can never run out the clock.
Name me something Griffey has done to question his character.
Accused the Yankees of being a racist organization because he supposedly wasn’t allowed to play on the field and white kids were. That’s already been proven to be untrue since it was a matter of public record that Steinbrenner didn’t want any kids on the field and made that a rule.
But when you think you’re special and think rules shouldn’t apply to you I guess you can mix that up with racism.
Wow Brandon is a Griffey crooner.
Cards leave the bases loaded. Still 3-3.
That wasn’t really what the Cards needed.
To the bottom of the 11th
This really sucks.
Crap Cards blew it.
ugh, Cards leave the bases juiced (they like it when stuff is juiced I guess..ha) …what a tease!
The Cards have had so many opportunities. They’ve taken so many bad swings, it’s ridiculous.
The Cards have no one to blame but themselves for this loss.
This is sort of off topic, but if anyone has ever heard the Gene Monahan interview he did with Ed Randall, he goes OUT OF HIS WAY to to badmouth Griffey Sr.
Gene Monahan has always seemed to me like the type of guy that doesnt have a angry bone in his body…for him to insinuate that Griffey Sr. wasnt that greatest guy to work with says a lot…
Accused the Yankees of being a racist organization because he supposedly wasn’t allowed to play on the field and white kids were. That’s already been proven to be untrue since it was a matter of public record that Steinbrenner didn’t want any kids on the field and made that a rule.
But when you think you’re special and think rules shouldn’t apply to you I guess you can mix that up with racism.
Are you serious ? cause Steinbrenner said it didn’t happen, you believe it ? That’s the source, why hasn’t any player denied it ?
“Mulligan: I know Cecil had problems with money and didn’t leave his family with much of it, but I’m not sure about the stealing all the kids’ money part. That seems to be one of those things where it depends who you ask. I know he was Prince’s manager and helped him make some money, I don’t know exactly what sort of cut he took. But I always got the impression that Prince considered even a little cut to be too much. Considering how much his dad helped him over the years in establishing his name and career, I always found his attitude a bit ungrateful, not to mention it is downright mean to deprive his kids of a relationship with Grandpa just because you’re mad at him. He won’t even talk to Cecil when he shows up at his games, just has security send him away…”
It’s a damn sad situation…I got my “outlook” from an HBO Real Sports espisode that hammered Cecil. It does look like Big Daddy is getting his life straightened out, too:
“After managing the South Coast League’s Charlotte County Redfish, in 2007, Fielder became the manager of the Atlantic City Surf of the Canadian-American Association of Professional Baseball in 2008.”
Although, a gambling addict living in Atlantic City is probably not too smart…
Let’s look at the bright side here. Dbacks are coming to Boston tomorrow. Haren is pitching the opener. Let the Sox be good and tired and use up their bullpen today.
Are you serious ? cause Steinbrenner said it didn’t happen, you believe it ? That’s the source, why hasn’t any player denied it ?
The Yankees denied it. I guess they didn’t think they needed to have this kind of extended debate because no other black players came forward and said their kids were kept off the field.
But I have a good idea. How bout I agree with you. Griffey Jr. is a saint. Steinbrenner is a racist and a liar. How I wish we had Griffey Jr. on the team. I’m depressed thinking about how he refuses to play for the Yankees.
Wow Brandon is a Griffey crooner.
Ok I see how this is somebody raises a question on why it could be true but we look at it as it never happened. So I’m a crooner is your response, instead of debating it like an actual adult you result to insults. Classy.
Izzy pitching like Izzy.
Ugh. Come on Isringhausen
C’mon Izzy, Varitek is a 4-6-3 machine…
for him to insinuate that Griffey Sr. wasnt that greatest guy to work with says a lot…
Zach like father like son.
4-6-3 machine I tell ‘ya…
Well I haven’t insulted anyone, Brandon.
I disagree with you about this, thats all. I certainly don’t hold anything against you personally nor have I resorted to insulting you at all.
But I have a good idea. How bout I agree with you.
You don’t have to agree w/ me that is not the point of this.
Griffey Jr. is a saint. Steinbrenner is a racist and a liar. How I wish we had Griffey Jr. on the team. I’m depressed thinking about how he refuses to play for the Yankees.
Yeh sure whatever you know what to do w/ this back handed comment.
“It’s a damn sad situation…I got my “outlook†from an HBO Real Sports espisode that hammered Cecil.”
And I got mine from a SI article that defended Cecil and hammered Prince. Guess it’s all about perspective lol. But yeah, it is a sad situation all around. I am probably a bit biased in Cecil’s favor after 1996; in reality both of them probably did their part to hurt the family relationship, but I really hope they straighten it out at least to the point where Cecil can see the grandchildren. He was stupid about money for sure but he isn’t the first one to have done that.
Mulligan just as good! Force out at 3rd.
Damn Izzy, 1-6-3 machine…damn
So, how many of you are going to say the Cards vs Red Sox game is over now?
Angel I know I have no problem w/ you, You didn’t result to that.
“…but I really hope they straighten it out at least to the point where Cecil can see the grandchildren.”
Agree 100%
Pep I say this one is what it is. Whenever it is.
If Red Sox win they avoid a sweep. They still tire out their players and pen for tomorrow.
Oh jeez
“So, how many of you are going to say the Cards vs Red Sox game is over now?”
I’ll say it.
Mark good point on the Sox pen. Unfortunately Beckett is pitching tomorrow, he usually gives them at least 6-7 innings unless he’s getting shelled.
A Cards victory today would make it that much sweeter.
Gee that looked like he pitched Crisp carefully. I hope that’s it and not what Isringhausen has right now.
That wouldn’t make sense. A long out is game.
“Pep I say this one is what it is. Whenever it is.” – Mark
LOL – “It is what it is!”
Izzy again showing he cant handle the slightest bit of pressure in a city where the fans dont sit in the stands like robots…
and yes…st. louis is a great baseball city…but the fans sit there like robots.
That’s just Izzy being Izzy
A Cards victory today would make it that much sweeter.
No question.
I think this Griffey argument is pretty simple.
Griffey Sr. was a jerk and so is his son. The treatment of Junior as a child has nothing to do with race. I don’t see the point in arguing these facts.
Izzy, we need a K…
Miggs that’s why I stopped.
” What I want to know is how does Livan stay so injury-free, especially relative to his half-bro”
years and years of throwing slower than interstate speed limits.
“years and years of throwing slower than interstate speed limits.”
LOL…back in the Double Nickel days…IZZY
1 more Izzy
Man that was HUGE. I thought he was going to hit him!
When Gene Monahan doesnt like you, you more than likely are an unlikeable person.
isrighuther stinks !
What is Elsbury, 5’2 105 lbs soaking wet?
When you’ve been pitching since the Spanish-American War, you know how to take care of yourself.
Huge! Yay Izzy!
Wow. This game is crazy.
wow great job!!!!!
omg.. left the bases loaded.
Ho.
Lee.
She.
It.
Isringhausen is having a total Farnsworth moment.
IZZY IS A GENIUS!
Ellsbury nearly fell over swinging at that.
IZZY is da Man…2nd only to Mo for closers today!
“rconn23 June 22nd, 2008 at 6:07 pm
“So, how many of you are going to say the Cards vs Red Sox game is over now?â€
I’ll say it.”
Uhhhhhhhhhhh, you were saying, rconn23???????
Isringhausen is the Kyle Farnsworth of the NL.
Wow. The Red Sox are doing their best NYY with RISP impersonation.
Woohoo going to the 12th!!!
Love it.
Shouldn’t Ankiel be coming up soon?
Hmm, Livan is smart with this milking capitalism after leaving Castro thing eh?
“When you’ve been pitching since the Spanish-American War, you know how to take care of yourself.”
LOL…and you know he has one of those doctored birth certs…he’s really turning 50 this year.
Damn, Glaus was on that pitch…
First up is Troy “I don’t need steroids to play in the NL!”
Glaus.
Who cares if Griffey Jr. didn’t want to play for the Yankees.
His career took a huge downward turn the day he was traded for Seattle anyways.
I’m very glad those years were played in Cincy and not in the Bronx.
I really think the Griffey/Fielder discussion depends on whose side you come down on.
Ultimately, there’s probably a bit of truth on each side, everything else is just perception and thats as much as we’ll know for certain.
Ankiel up 3rd in this inning. TIME TO ATONE!
MrMulligan who is the “Patty” that you want in pinstripes?
“I really think the Griffey/Fielder discussion depends on whose side you come down on.
Ultimately, there’s probably a bit of truth on each side, everything else is just perception and thats as much as we’ll know for certain.”
Agree.
Hell, I’ll admit I have a general dislike for fabulously wealthy MLB players who don’t don the Pinstripes..
Ankiel better atone. A long atonement. Like over the green monster.
“Hansen”…”Hansen”?????
Where’d they get this guy? Where are our “Hansen’s”? “Ellsbury’s”? “Lester’s”?
C’mon Cash, bring up our “gold” kids too.
“MrMulligan who is the “Patty†that you want in pinstripes?”
Damn Miggs, you missed one heck of a discussion on whether Pat Burrell can play RF in The New Stadium…
Yep, that is usually how it works in conflicts. Person A’s account, person B’s account, and then somewhere in the middle is the truth.
Cmon Ankiel, now’s your chance!!
Ankiel caused all this…now that is one player I do really dislike right now.
ugh. Well, Ankiel’s too cool for atonement, apparently. Would love to see this game get back to Duncan in top 13th…
Angel really not to belabor this but when it comes to Steinbrenner’s ruling there is no perception. It’s either fact or it’s not. Either Steinbrenner let white kids on the field but not black kids, or he didn’t.
I think most of us know the answer to that one without really taxing our brains.
“Uhhhhhhhhhhh, you were saying, rconn23???????”
Believe me, I hope I’m wrong. But you only have so many opportunities on the road. Okajima had nothing and they took stupid swings.
Our old friend and North Jersey homie Ron Villone is in for the Cards. I’m not sure whether to be pleased with this development or not.
Yeah but Papelbon caused it too didn’t he. Papelbon’s the reason his team is in extras right now.
Ron Villone?!
Hah. Uh. Didn’t expect that.
Ugh, Ron Villone… not a good sign.
““Hansenâ€â€¦â€Hansenâ€?????
Where’d they get this guy? Where are our “Hansen’s� “Ellsbury’s� “Lester’s�
C’mon Cash, bring up our “gold†kids too.”
Seriously? Look at how he’s performed this season. Especially recently. He was good today against some poor hitters, but he’s given up something like 5 runs over his last three appearances, and 11 in 18 innings this season.
Pitching for the Cardinals, Ron Villone –
OK, the game is over! Red Sox win.
That freakin ballpark is so annoying. Only there could you get that kind of freakin hit.
Wow.
Game could’ve been over with an Ankiel catch…SWEET PLAY…HA HA HA
HOL-LEE-CRAP
okay, guess I’m going with displeased…
“Damn Miggs, you missed one heck of a discussion on whether Pat Burrell can play RF in The New Stadium…”
There was a discussion about that??? Wow. People have issues with ABREU’S D and they want BURRELL???
Casey is a 4-6-3 machine…
It’d be sweet if Villone got the win and Molina got the winning hit.
I can dream can’t I?
““Hansenâ€â€¦â€Hansenâ€?????
Hansen pitched well today, but he’s been terrible pretty much otherwise. He is very Farnsworth-like.
Well, there is a bit. There is how Billy perceived the directive from George and how he communicated it to the kids, and how the Griffey kids perceived when being told.
George just shoulda come out and yelled at them all to get off the field. I’m surprised that given the Bronx Zoo reputation, he didn’t do just that.
What’s with that back leg thing Casey does every AB?
Well, that’s what I meant, “Hansen”…”Hansen”? Why put in a bum like Hansen?
Angel except that years later an adult version of Griffey Jr. might want to check out if his perceptions had been in synch with reality. Except that wouldn’t be his nature.
Did the Red Sox get an off day tomorrow?
YES FORMER YANKEE RON VILLONE!
Lucky 13?
Nice call Mulligan
going to the 13th
“There was a discussion about that??? Wow. People have issues with ABREU’S D and they want BURRELL???”
No, I want Burrell’s .400 OBP & 30 / 110 from the RH side vs. Bobby’s declining numbers at age 35.
I no care about D…
I forgot how hard it is to watch Villone pitch.
You guys watching? Ol’ Ronnie Villone getting out of a jam.
Angel that is a no. They are facing first place Dbacks.
YEAH VILLONE!!! BIG UPS TO BERGEN COUNTY!!! w00t
Jeez. 3 leadoff doubles and not one of them comes around to score…
this makes me feel better.
Great job R-V!
This Cards lineup is pretty anemic, huh? Wish they had Pujols right now…
Come on Yadier!
OK, I’m calling it, Cardinals win.
“No, I want Burrell’s .400 OBP & 30 / 110 from the RH side vs. Bobby’s declining numbers at age 35″
You realize that
1) his numbers are inflated by playing in a band-box, and
2) you’re going to have to sign him for his decline phase in order to get him. Lots of boo.
“No, I want Burrell’s .400 OBP & 30 / 110 from the RH side vs. Bobby’s declining numbers at age 35.
I no care about D…”
Don’t make it seem like Pat B is Hank Aaron hitting wise. He ain’t. Melky could hit 30 homers in that ballpark in Philly. And his D is suited for DH.
So I’d take his bat but no way for RF. Watch a weeks worth of Philly games and you will see it too.
Yeah, I think that what I said I didnt necessarily agree with about it.
Both teams have been bit with the anti-RISP bug.
“Jeez. 3 leadoff doubles and not one of them comes around to score…
this makes me feel better.”
LOL…we’d be going BERSERK…how about a jack over the Green Monster, Cards?
They said on ABC that crude oil may reach $500 per brl. Pretty soon even ARod would be having trouble filling up at the gas pump.
Oh man MrMulligan. No offense but I couldn’t disagree more on that one. Pat Burrell? No thanks.
Same with Texiera. I know this is a terrible time to make this argument (the guy had 3 hrs today) but I think signing Texiera hurts this franchise in ways we won’t fully understand until 4-5 years from now (when he’ll still have 2 years left on his deal)
Look, we just are getting out of a 7 year 1st baseman contract. And Giambi is clearly outplaying Texiera this year (at least with the bat) but that isn’t even the point. First base is not a position we need locked up for 7 years. Jeter is old, Posada is old. We have about 5 guys that could be full time DHs but can’t because other guys need to DH.
I would resign Giambi if he continues to play well. Maybe one year with a one year option. Bottom line, his bat is almost impossible to replace when he’s hot. His power is ridiculous and he’s an OPS machine. And he’ll cost a lot less than Texiera both in years and money.
There’s a guy at AAA that a lot of fans forget about. His name is Juan Miranda. He was hurt for awhile and wasn’t playing well earlier but he’s starting to heat up (5 for 5 the other day).
All I’m saying is there are a ton of options at 1st for the yanks. Clogging it up with a mammoth contract for 7 years is a terrible way to go. Between Giambi, Miranda, and the need for Posada and Jeter to switch positions in the next few years, 1st base is well covered.
Now as for CC….. I’d pay whatever he wants if he gets to free agency. I’m actually rooting for the Indians to win some games so they stay in contention and don’t trade him. I’m worried the price in a trade may be too much. But if he hits free agency? Get him at whatever cost, but try to go a max of 6 years.
Oh thats right, Red Sox vs D’backs. That should be an interesting series.
Okay not Yadier. What do you think if Duncan and Kennedy come around to finish it off? They’re up next.
You don’t want a better player on a shorter term deal but you want someone who is going to age worse than Giambi on a longer deal and for more money??
Scratches head
Because there is no way Burrell signs for less than 5 years and 60 million.
damn they brought in the lefty for Duncan
Looking at Matsui’s knee situation, if he has to go on the DL…do you guys call up Miranda to take some DH ABs? He’s back off the DL and raking in AAA against righties right now…
I don’t see Cashman spending money on Burrell when he can get Abreu for less and less years.
I don’t see him going for Tex either considering that Posada and maybe Jeter may have to play 1b soon.
I do seem them breaking the bank for Sabathia.
Pat the Bat is awful, he is having a decent season, but i don know want him. I think abreu is a good player and is not appreciated enough here.
Hi all,
Just got back from Tampa. I was at the Rays game last night when they won in the bottom of the 9th. My dad is a huge Rays fan and this was his belated Father’s day present.
I have been to three MLB games this year. 2 in Tampa and 1 Yanks game. At all three, the home team came back in the 9th to win (I was at the Giambi game in the Bronx a couple of weeks ago). What are the odds of that, huh?
Nice Duncan.
Montclair,
I’d agree.
Patty’s numbers are “trending up†over his career…much better K/BB as he “matures†and he’s probably ahead of Hank Aaron’s yearly avg the L3(with this 1/2 year extrapolated):
.263/.401/.528/.929 330 BB/ 369 K
(32 HR/110 RBI)…AGE 32 in ‘09.
I think we have the wrong Duncan brother…
“There’s a guy at AAA that a lot of fans forget about. His name is Juan Miranda.”
Heeeee’s another guy who’s D is best suited for DH. And, he’s got awful splits. Can’t hit lefties for beans.
Why, oh why would you send him? Terrible call.
DAMN…I see speed runs in the Duncan family…
Great slide Duncan.
Why the hell did they send him? For goodness sake.
eh..
Do it again A-Kenn!
Did that just happen?
Sending that big lug from second – stupid.
UUUUHHHHHHH…Chris Duncan is not exactly Mr. Speed is he?
JEEEEZUS!!!! WHAT KIND OF RUNNING WAS THAT!
Should not have sent him against Drew.
That cost the Cardinals their best shot at winning this game. Drew has a good arm.
See? Right now, they’d be ahead. Great call, idiot 3B coach.
*shaking my head*
onwards to the bottom of the 13th
“he’s probably ahead of Hank Aaron’s yearly avg the L3″
I’m just being a sarcastic dummy…I would MUCH RATHER have a 32-year old Hank Aaron than a 32-year old Pat Burrell!!!
Damn Cards.
wow that was a dumb send. Maybe Meachem isnt so bad after all…
How does the 3rd base coach send him? Did he run through it?
You have to hold him on that!
That, and walking in the go-ahead run in the 8th…AND Ankiel’s error in CF…it’s like they yearn deeply to give the Sox this win.
You know you can only go to the well so many times when you’re the road team.
Still games have been known to go 17 innings and more.
With every inning comes more effort and tiredness and use of the pen. Kill those Sox.
Come on Cards, dammit!
Since when is Zumaya pitching?
ok, time to make dinner, Go Cards! Although my faith in them is rapidly evaporating, but we’ll see. Anyway nice win for the Yanks today, Andy is the man…although it seems like that game ended eons ago already!
….Wow, and I think Farnsworth’s numbers are bad…
OK, I’m calling it, Red Sox win.
little DP here. please.
Gotta drop off a book to someone. Hope you’re still here when I get back. Like I hope the game is still goin.
Go Cardinals.
Burning the Boston BP for the DBacks series…
I detest Youk more that any other Beantowner, why is that?
I think I just really dislike ugly people from New England…
All over red rover. Ugh.
Saw THAT coming.
Oh, Cardinals.
…yep.
Stupid sox.
!*Y&(^$&^!*&^$*&*!$^*&!^*&@&#^%#&)@&@^
sox win
Ugh.
Well nobody can deny that this was a good extra inning game.
Oh well of course they win when we win
I’m admittedly a huge Melky fan and find that his energy and defense more than makes up for his offensive slumps.
Many people want to get rid of Melky and bring up Gardner.
Gardner did well at the start of the season and in Spring Training, but has slumped lately. He is far from dominant in the minor leagues, though he is very fast on the basepaths.
If Hughes and Kennedy, who were so dominant in AAA, can struggle so mightily in the Majors, what makes everyone think that Gardner can suddenly be so great, when his AAA numbers aren’t that impressive?
Melky has been pretty consistent over his career in the majors. Sure, the sample size is small, but he earned that spot over Damon and Bernie. That’s pretty impressive. He’s got a lot of room to grow offensively and he definitely hasn’t reached his potential.
We need to give him some time to get out of this slump. If he can show some power numbers and a bit higher avg with some RBI, he could be a longer term solution for center field. Sure, we’d like to have Jackson up here. Tabata in a few years. But Melky has proven himself at least to some extent.
Youkillisp. damn him.
I really detest Youkillis. Even if he played for the Yankees he’d be Kevin Brown to me.
Well, a farmer plays all night, he’s bound to win a hand. W
Why couldn’t the Cardinals have come through, rather than those hated Sox?
That is why the Sox are in 1st place.
I hate Youk, Paps, and Lowell more than any player in the majors. You can add Schilling and Crisp and Ellsbury and Pedroia to that as well. And Beckett.
The rest arent bad
Youk you piece of %&@**#, I had the Cardinals +1.5 runs!
UGH
Youkliss is there O’Neill.
We would be arguing about retiring his # if he played here.
This makes the past 2 days losses even worse.
Just saw the replay on Sportscenter. Duncan may have been out bit Varitek isn’t likely to forget him.
Uh no, JB – I’d still treat him like I treated Kevin Brown – root for the laundry only.
But then I dont think ONeill’s number should be retired either.
Where is Aaron (freaking) Boone when you need him?
-I hate Youk, Paps, and Lowell more than any player in the majors. You can add Schilling and Crisp and Ellsbury and Pedroia to that as well. And Beckett.-
Dude, you just hate to hate. You’re like the old sox fans that hated the yankees more than they loved the sox.
You are amusing however.
“That is why the Sox are in 1st place.”
What? Because Ankiel mangled a flyball? Because the Cardinals let Okajima off the hook with terrible plate discipline? Because they sent a 240-lb. guy from second with 1 out, when a sac-fly would have scored the next runner? Because Youk creamed a HR off a AAA pitcher?
No… I believe the Cards just gave that one away.
Dude, you just hate to hate. You’re like the old sox fans that hated the yankees more than they loved the sox.
Actually no. I just hate their personalities. They are almost all douchebags
I wouldn’t mind Melky out here hitting 250 if Cano was hitting 270. But his OBP isn’t 270!
Youk’s brother owns a trendy restaurant here in SF, by all accounts he’s a swell guy. I just didn’t want to see:
a) the Sox win
b) the Sox win by more than 1 run!
UGH.
Teams play the Yankees 10x harder than any other team. Even though they are the champions, the Cards gave them that win where they would have fought the Yankees tooth and nail and made the Yankees beat them rather than making stupid plays
“That is why the Sox are in 1st place.”
What, because the Cardinals make baserunning blunders and walk a run in on 8 straight balls?
Haha @ Bring Gardner Up
Yeah, they really laid down and died – they only tied the game in the 9th and went to the 13th inning with some great pitching and defense of their own. Sure thing buddy.
The Sox won it.
Boy I can’t believe I forgot w/ all the crap that’s been going on today.
Cincy here take your sh… back !
Let’s be realistic: it was a gift for the Sox to lose 2 of 3 to the Cardinals without Pujols and it’s the Yanks’ own fault they couldn’t make up any ground.
That’s over now.
On to Pittsburgh, we have 3 aces in a row on the mound!
“Yeah, they really laid down and died – they only tied the game in the 9th and went to the 13th inning with some great pitching and defense of their own. Sure thing buddy.
The Sox won it.”
Did you watch any of the game? The Cards pen was shaky all afternoon. They walked in the go ahead run in the 8th on 8 straight balls. They wasted numerous scoring opportunities. The Sox had three straight leadoff doubles in extras and couldn’t score.
They finally scored off some chump from AAA with an ERA north of 7 in the bigs this season.
Suuuuper impressive.
“On to Pittsburgh, we have 3 aces in a row on the mound!”
I’m concerned about the Pirates. Three straight lefties that the Yanks haven’t seen much.
So neither team played perfectly, but they had equal chances, the Red Sox just made the most of theirs. That’s the way sports work, you’re hardly going to watch games were both teams play perfectly, it doesn’t happen. Stop trying to convince yourself of the Red Sox’s inadequacy when they just won a pretty big game. Move on, worry about what the Yankees and not what they do.
Thanks, whozat, I was trying to feel good about the road trip going into the offday. Blech.
Well I STILL feel good about it!
“So neither team played perfectly, but they had equal chances, the Red Sox just made the most of theirs.”
By not being able to score any of three straight leadoff doubles?
Ok. Whatever.
One step at a time. The Yankees gained a game on the Rays and put more distance between themselves and Baltimore / Toronto.
Boston plays the Arizona Snakes tomorrow while the Yankees and Rays are off.
Looking ahead, let Boston and TB beat each other up on June 30, July 1-2 before the Yankees get Boston on July 3-6.
No love lost between Boston and the Rays.
BTW, Gardner stole two more bases today to run his total up to 29 on the season.
He’s walked four times today (hear that, Melky?) and has scored three runs.
It probably won’t happen, but Gardner needs to be promoted to give Melky some competition in CF. Melky needs a kick in the arse and a threat to his job is the only way he’ll get it.
Like Melky, Gardner is obviously not a power guy. But Gardner makes up for some of his lack of power with so many triples and OBP.
Gardner is the perfect guy to turn the lineup over with Damon and Jeter hitting behind him.
Melky needs to sit.
Pittsburgh is not going to be a cakewalk. The ballpark is going to be jam packed and we are facing 3 lefties.
This is Pittsburgh’s World Series.
I can guarantee they are not going to roll over for us.
I can see players like Xavier Nady salivating right now.
Yanks should sweep, but I wouldnt be surprised if they found a way lose one.
is venditte SI’s closer?
Glenn -
It’s nice to see that someone else looks to see the standings in an ‘opposite’ way, the same as I do. Of course it’s important to make headway against the division leader(s), but I also like to see the Yankees, as you say, putting distance between themselves and the bottom of the division. It’s a process and it’s not overnight, so I’m liking what i see so far.
“But Gardner makes up for some of his lack of power with so many triples and OBP.”
He won’t in the bigs. The guy strikes out a lot. You think pitchers are going to be walking him in the bigs, or going RIGHT at him?
If he was hitting for higher average, I’d believe he could get on base pretty well in the bigs.
And triples count in SLG. Gardner…has not really generated a lot of SLG over his career. People are acting like his AAA numbers will translate directly to the bigs. They probably won’t. And his K rate indicate that he might even do _worse_ than one would expect based on his AAA numbers.
test 1.2.3
“He won’t in the bigs. The guy strikes out a lot. You think pitchers are going to be walking him in the bigs, or going RIGHT at him?
What Gardner will or won’t do is merely conjecture at this point. As I’ve said countless times, he has speed that Melky doesn’t have and an ability to get on base that Melky doesn’t have. Right now, Melky is an auto out. He just is. His offense sucks.
Gardner could come up and suck too. But it would be nice to see what he could do. I think Melky does need the competition. Either Gardner or Melky would be the 9th place hitter anyway. I’d just rather have a guy that could steal 30 bases in that role.
Let’s see….a thousand something comments….
replace Melky with Brett Gardner posts? check!
trade for Sabathia at all costs posts? check!
Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy are busts posts? check!
seems like just another day at the office around here.
here’s the one i agree with…
a Yankee victory? check!!!!!
Forget Brett Gardner already, jeez. As long as the Yankees have A-Rod and Jeter they will not be rebuilding. Forget all these, “They should play the kids!” posts. Why did they spend $300 million to keep A-Rod? So he could watch a bunch of rookies get their feet wet? Wrong.
It was enough to ask a veteran team to endure the special treatment for Chamberlain, which has worked so far. But that is it. Plus, as soon as Gardner is here and batting .250 with one homer, you’ll want a veteran bat! Look at it realistically. a $209 million payroll is not rebuilding. About 70 million coming off the books after this year – most will go to Teixeira, at least one veteran starting pitcher, if not two, a right fielder, be it Abreu or a guy from another team. Plus, Gardner is not nearly as talented as Melky so please come up for some air and be realistic.
I think Edwar Ramirez did a pretty decent job dont you think rebecca?? Mariano, edwar and jose veras have been the best.
wow the yannke are looking bad !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!