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	<title>Comments on: Pitching matchups for the Pirates series</title>
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		<title>By: The Mad Prince in Pinstripes</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/pitching-matchups-for-the-pirates-series/comment-page-5/#comment-404548</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mad Prince in Pinstripes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:47:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CB,

I have to agree with you on Youkilis.

He is uglier than sin, but he is a solid 1B with a sweet stick.

It pains me to say this, but I&#039;d take him over Giambi any day of the week.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CB,</p>
<p>I have to agree with you on Youkilis.</p>
<p>He is uglier than sin, but he is a solid 1B with a sweet stick.</p>
<p>It pains me to say this, but I&#8217;d take him over Giambi any day of the week.</p>
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		<title>By: The Mad Prince in Pinstripes</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/pitching-matchups-for-the-pirates-series/comment-page-5/#comment-404542</link>
		<dc:creator>The Mad Prince in Pinstripes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 20:45:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I gotta admit, I am on board with trading Melky for some pitching help (even if it is mediocre).  There was a link on MLB Trade Rumors to an article in favor of this.

With Brett Gardner flashing speed and defense in Scranton and Austin Jackson not too far behind, why not shop &quot;He That Must Slide In To First Base&quot; while his value is higher than it otherwise is?

Thoughts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I gotta admit, I am on board with trading Melky for some pitching help (even if it is mediocre).  There was a link on MLB Trade Rumors to an article in favor of this.</p>
<p>With Brett Gardner flashing speed and defense in Scranton and Austin Jackson not too far behind, why not shop &#8220;He That Must Slide In To First Base&#8221; while his value is higher than it otherwise is?</p>
<p>Thoughts?</p>
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		<title>By: 86w183</title>
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		<dc:creator>86w183</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 19:40:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It amazes me how many stat freaks we have out there. Only someone who understands stats but doesn&#039;t understand baseball would consider OBP and SLG the most important numbers to consider.

Sorry Charlie, neither number equates to the most important thing in offensive baseball... SCORING RUNS!

Sure, those numbers are iluminative of individual performance, but not of RELEVANT individual performance. It&#039;s not how many times you get on base, but what happens. It&#039;s not what your slug... it&#039;s WHEN you slug.

If you can&#039;t run effectively, if you don&#039;t score a lot than your high obp is useless. Yes, that&#039;s a function of the team, but boys, it is a team game. 

A guy with two doubles and a walk in four official at bats, no runs, no RBI has a better OBP and SLG than a guy who goes 1-for-5 with a grand slam. But one helped his team win and the other helped his stats.

Runs and RBI will be king as long as the win goes to the team with the most runs. If/when baseball games are decided by the number of baserunners the two teams had then OBP will move to the top of the stat sheet.

We talk on this and other sites about Jeter&#039;s value transcending his stats. One of the reasons for that is howmany runs he scores. He goes first-to-third (there&#039;s no stats for that). He steals bases, he advances on deep fly outs... all those things contribute to scoring runs and that contributes to winning games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It amazes me how many stat freaks we have out there. Only someone who understands stats but doesn&#8217;t understand baseball would consider OBP and SLG the most important numbers to consider.</p>
<p>Sorry Charlie, neither number equates to the most important thing in offensive baseball&#8230; SCORING RUNS!</p>
<p>Sure, those numbers are iluminative of individual performance, but not of RELEVANT individual performance. It&#8217;s not how many times you get on base, but what happens. It&#8217;s not what your slug&#8230; it&#8217;s WHEN you slug.</p>
<p>If you can&#8217;t run effectively, if you don&#8217;t score a lot than your high obp is useless. Yes, that&#8217;s a function of the team, but boys, it is a team game. </p>
<p>A guy with two doubles and a walk in four official at bats, no runs, no RBI has a better OBP and SLG than a guy who goes 1-for-5 with a grand slam. But one helped his team win and the other helped his stats.</p>
<p>Runs and RBI will be king as long as the win goes to the team with the most runs. If/when baseball games are decided by the number of baserunners the two teams had then OBP will move to the top of the stat sheet.</p>
<p>We talk on this and other sites about Jeter&#8217;s value transcending his stats. One of the reasons for that is howmany runs he scores. He goes first-to-third (there&#8217;s no stats for that). He steals bases, he advances on deep fly outs&#8230; all those things contribute to scoring runs and that contributes to winning games.</p>
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		<title>By: Wave Your Hat</title>
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		<dc:creator>Wave Your Hat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:30:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>BA w/RISP does have the virtue of describing what actually happened, but isn&#039;t a very good predictive measure or a very good measure of offensive ability.  It has a large random element.  It&#039;s pretty settled that OBP and SLG are much better at describing the actual offensive performance level of a player</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BA w/RISP does have the virtue of describing what actually happened, but isn&#8217;t a very good predictive measure or a very good measure of offensive ability.  It has a large random element.  It&#8217;s pretty settled that OBP and SLG are much better at describing the actual offensive performance level of a player</p>
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		<title>By: berniewilliams (melky = trade bait)</title>
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		<dc:creator>berniewilliams (melky = trade bait)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:23:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no it acknowlidges that he is an ugly piece of sh*t overrated, b*tch*ss who any yankee or red sox fan should despise simply because they have to look at him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no it acknowlidges that he is an ugly piece of sh*t overrated, b*tch*ss who any yankee or red sox fan should despise simply because they have to look at him</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick (the good one)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick (the good one)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:06:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fredo,

Runs scored or RBI&#039;s shouldn&#039;t make any difference for an individual player&#039;s performance. Those stats hold water only when discussing the team&#039;s performance as a whole. Like I said if you want to talk about a player&#039;s ability to drive runs in quote his batting average with RISP. In that case you would be right because Giambi&#039;s  BA w/ RISP is god-awful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fredo,</p>
<p>Runs scored or RBI&#8217;s shouldn&#8217;t make any difference for an individual player&#8217;s performance. Those stats hold water only when discussing the team&#8217;s performance as a whole. Like I said if you want to talk about a player&#8217;s ability to drive runs in quote his batting average with RISP. In that case you would be right because Giambi&#8217;s  BA w/ RISP is god-awful.</p>
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		<title>By: munchabuncha</title>
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		<dc:creator>munchabuncha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:04:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t want Youkilis on the Yankees. I can&#039;t stand Manny either, but while I wouldn&#039;t be his number one fan, I wouldn&#039;t hate that he is on the team I root for. Youkilis would drive me away from following the Yankees as much as I do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t want Youkilis on the Yankees. I can&#8217;t stand Manny either, but while I wouldn&#8217;t be his number one fan, I wouldn&#8217;t hate that he is on the team I root for. Youkilis would drive me away from following the Yankees as much as I do.</p>
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		<title>By: munchabuncha</title>
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		<dc:creator>munchabuncha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:03:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Youkilis is a whiney player, a person who has temper control issues, who flops and acts like he is dying when he gets hit by a pitch. He even is having trouble with Manny. Impact player? A few times, but it isn&#039;t repect that gets him the jeers, that is a big difference.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Youkilis is a whiney player, a person who has temper control issues, who flops and acts like he is dying when he gets hit by a pitch. He even is having trouble with Manny. Impact player? A few times, but it isn&#8217;t repect that gets him the jeers, that is a big difference.</p>
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		<title>By: saucY</title>
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		<dc:creator>saucY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;When you say you â€œhateâ€ him isnâ€™t that an acknowledgement that he is an impact player? &quot;

yeah, i guess :&#124;

&quot;Fans usually only hate really good players on the opposing teamâ€¦.not mediocre ones. Just my take on things.&quot;

his ugliness does help though ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;When you say you â€œhateâ€ him isnâ€™t that an acknowledgement that he is an impact player? &#8221;</p>
<p>yeah, i guess <img src='http://yankees.lhblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_neutral.gif' alt=':|' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>&#8220;Fans usually only hate really good players on the opposing teamâ€¦.not mediocre ones. Just my take on things.&#8221;</p>
<p>his ugliness does help though <img src='http://yankees.lhblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Fredo Corleone</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fredo Corleone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:57:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;There are no more important offensive stats than OBP and SLG&quot;

Which team wins? The one with higher OPB/SLG or the one with more runs???? OPB and slugging are very important stats, but it&#039;s smoked filled coffee house BS if it doesn&#039;t translate to production. Giambi&#039;s on pace to drive in 85-90 runs and score about 80. That&#039;s not great production. What are they getting out of that OBP??? Aside from the opportunity for Cano to make more outs. If he&#039;s not homering, he&#039;s scoring less than 1/4 of the times he gets on base. His numbers with RISP are disastarous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;There are no more important offensive stats than OBP and SLG&#8221;</p>
<p>Which team wins? The one with higher OPB/SLG or the one with more runs???? OPB and slugging are very important stats, but it&#8217;s smoked filled coffee house BS if it doesn&#8217;t translate to production. Giambi&#8217;s on pace to drive in 85-90 runs and score about 80. That&#8217;s not great production. What are they getting out of that OBP??? Aside from the opportunity for Cano to make more outs. If he&#8217;s not homering, he&#8217;s scoring less than 1/4 of the times he gets on base. His numbers with RISP are disastarous.</p>
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