Comments on: The 8th inning issue coming to a head? http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/ A New York Yankees blog by Chad Jennings and the staff of The Journal News Fri, 10 Feb 2012 17:45:10 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: OMg http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/comment-page-3/#comment-405532 OMg Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:16:27 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/#comment-405532 testing testing

]]> By: OMg http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/comment-page-3/#comment-405528 OMg Wed, 25 Jun 2008 02:15:14 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/#comment-405528 Yankees club as a whole is not a ordinary club. They are willing to pay 3 or 4 millions a year for mop up guys like Farnsworth and Hawkin, but unwilling to settle 0.6 million a year for a guy who won them 19 wins 2 years in a row. Yankees club as a whole is not a ordinary club. The owner of the Yankees actually thinks he could boost the players, pitchers and hitters,by calling them a bunch of over paid guys that are not producing, and, able to not only get away with it but won the praise from NY media and Yankees fans. And they have been in the playoff baseball for a decade and counting. People often, not always, get to be like one another when they live together long enough. I guess the word, show, is imbedded in the Yankees nowadays. People are willing to flow their adrenaline like a roller coaster when they go to the Broadway watching a good show. And, that's exactly what Yankees do these past 3 years. Something always happened to the pitching staffs in the early season (Brown in 2005, Pavano in 2006, Kei Ingwa, no injury but just sucks, in 2007, and Wang in 2008), but season always get saved with emergent of some nobody people don't know before the season started (Small and Chacon in 2005, Wang in 2006, and Joba in 2007.) I wonder who will show up in 2008. I thought Rasner is one good candidate, as Peter Abraham pointed out that he is likely a replica of Small in 2005. But, after tonight, he is more of a replica of Small in 2005 with a much shorter duration. I sincerely hope that he could prove me wrong, sooner rather than later. I wonder if Pete has anybody (a pitcher, throgh trade or minor league) in mind that would be a candidate in 2008. Oh, Joba in 2008 again? Yankees club as a whole is not a ordinary club. They are willing to pay 3 or 4 millions a year for mop up guys like Farnsworth and Hawkin, but unwilling to settle 0.6 million a year for a guy who won them 19 wins 2 years in a row.
Yankees club as a whole is not a ordinary club. The owner of the Yankees actually thinks he could boost the players, pitchers and hitters,by calling them a bunch of over paid guys that are not producing, and, able to not only get away with it but won the praise from NY media and Yankees fans.
And they have been in the playoff baseball for a decade and counting.

People often, not always, get to be like one another when they live together long enough. I guess the word, show, is imbedded in the Yankees nowadays. People are willing to flow their adrenaline like a roller coaster when they go to the Broadway watching a good show. And, that’s exactly what Yankees do these past 3 years.
Something always happened to the pitching staffs in the early season (Brown in 2005, Pavano in 2006, Kei Ingwa, no injury but just sucks, in 2007, and Wang in 2008), but season always get saved with emergent of some nobody people don’t know before the season started (Small and Chacon in 2005, Wang in 2006, and Joba in 2007.) I wonder who will show up in 2008.

I thought Rasner is one good candidate, as Peter Abraham pointed out that he is likely a replica of Small in 2005. But, after tonight, he is more of a replica of Small in 2005 with a much shorter duration.

I sincerely hope that he could prove me wrong, sooner rather than later.

I wonder if Pete has anybody (a pitcher, throgh trade or minor league) in mind that would be a candidate in 2008.

Oh, Joba in 2008 again?

]]> By: farnsworthy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/comment-page-3/#comment-404904 farnsworthy Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:46:15 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/#comment-404904 stop mentioning mccutchen. he is a terrible and will never make it to the majors. stop mentioning mccutchen. he is a terrible and will never make it to the majors.

]]> By: jon http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/comment-page-3/#comment-404809 jon Tue, 24 Jun 2008 23:19:46 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/#comment-404809 I will not go on record like some and say Joba needs to go back to the bullpen. We've seen what he can do as a starter, and with the injuries and inconsistencies, he is most valuable there. Frankly, as Peter mentioned, when will it be time the Yankees just give up on Farnsworth (I dont know why they've waited this long)? The guy gives up a run every time he pitches (it seems), or at least gets in trouble, without fail. I'd give a rookie a shot...Melancon. I will not go on record like some and say Joba needs to go back to the bullpen. We’ve seen what he can do as a starter, and with the injuries and inconsistencies, he is most valuable there. Frankly, as Peter mentioned, when will it be time the Yankees just give up on Farnsworth (I dont know why they’ve waited this long)? The guy gives up a run every time he pitches (it seems), or at least gets in trouble, without fail. I’d give a rookie a shot…Melancon.

]]> By: nyyfaninlaaland http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/comment-page-3/#comment-404754 nyyfaninlaaland Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:50:46 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/#comment-404754 Working backwards. Britton has (in minimal action) good numbers - but is on the DL. B J Ryan is just back from TJ surgery. Not crazy about Kyle, but he hasn't blown a lead since Joba went into the rotation - but did lose a tied game. And Boston Dave points out that lately since his 5 days off with a sore biceps (?) he's done well - even saved a 1 run lead. Cox is just off the AAA DL - and is a contact pitcher scouts haven't raved about this season either. And are we sure that swing & miss curve in the minors for Robertson won't become a take & miss the zone curve in the majors, resulting in 6 or 7 BB/9, not just 4/9? Remember how we all just loved Bruney's lack of control with the K's? The call up of Christian takes the roster spot freed by White's outright that could have been used for Ponson. Could this mean no Ponson on Friday? Plenty of 60 DL candidates though. Also only 11 pitchers now with a DH and #5 & #6 starters coming Friday. Christian or AG back down or Moeller DFA'd? Working backwards.

Britton has (in minimal action) good numbers – but is on the DL.

B J Ryan is just back from TJ surgery.

Not crazy about Kyle, but he hasn’t blown a lead since Joba went into the rotation – but did lose a tied game. And Boston Dave points out that lately since his 5 days off with a sore biceps (?) he’s done well – even saved a 1 run lead.

Cox is just off the AAA DL – and is a contact pitcher scouts haven’t raved about this season either. And are we sure that swing & miss curve in the minors for Robertson won’t become a take & miss the zone curve in the majors, resulting in 6 or 7 BB/9, not just 4/9? Remember how we all just loved Bruney’s lack of control with the K’s?

The call up of Christian takes the roster spot freed by White’s outright that could have been used for Ponson. Could this mean no Ponson on Friday? Plenty of 60 DL candidates though. Also only 11 pitchers now with a DH and #5 & #6 starters coming Friday. Christian or AG back down or Moeller DFA’d?

]]> By: Old Ranger http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/comment-page-3/#comment-404650 Old Ranger Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:55:15 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/#comment-404650 Other then Mo, Chris has the best numbers; 1.29 ERA, 318 ERA+, Ramzy is 2nd with 2.74 ERA, and 149 ERA+. As bad as Farnzy pitches he hasn't lost many games for us also, he has been used in the 6-7-8-9th innings depending on the situation. Bring up Robertson, he is ready and willing to try an plug the lack of good arms in the BP. I take that back...we have good arms, some (KK) can't seem to get the job done. Stefan@3:42, Sorry but Justin is not faster then Brett, nor is he the base runner that Brett is. Brett is a bit like Jeter, meaning; he has instincts for the game that many ball players wish they had. I have been watching these guys for a while now, and that is my take on the two players. 27/08? Other then Mo, Chris has the best numbers; 1.29 ERA, 318 ERA+, Ramzy is 2nd with 2.74 ERA, and 149 ERA+. As bad as Farnzy pitches he hasn’t lost many games for us also, he has been used in the 6-7-8-9th innings depending on the situation. Bring up Robertson, he is ready and willing to try an plug the lack of good arms in the BP. I take that back…we have good arms, some (KK) can’t seem to get the job done.
Stefan@3:42,
Sorry but Justin is not faster then Brett, nor is he the base runner that Brett is. Brett is a bit like Jeter, meaning; he has instincts for the game that many ball players wish they had. I have been watching these guys for a while now, and that is my take on the two players. 27/08?

]]> By: Billy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/comment-page-3/#comment-404642 Billy Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:50:21 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/#comment-404642 JP won't trade Ryan within the division to Cash. Ryan is another TJS waiting to happen. JP won’t trade Ryan within the division to Cash. Ryan is another TJS waiting to happen.

]]> By: Rob Thompson http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/comment-page-3/#comment-404634 Rob Thompson Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:42:01 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/#comment-404634 By the 4th of July you will see both Fuentes and BJ Ryan pitching out of the Yankees bullpen. Book it!!! By the 4th of July you will see both Fuentes and BJ Ryan pitching out of the Yankees bullpen. Book it!!!

]]> By: SoCalYankeeFan http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/comment-page-3/#comment-404630 SoCalYankeeFan Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:39:32 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/#comment-404630 Unless we can acquire Marte from Pitt or Fuentes from Rox as 8th inning for BP, time to give Robertson, Cox, et all a shot at it. They could hardly do worse than Hawkins and Farnsworth (and get paid a lot less). If Hawkins and Farnsworth can't be traded, it's time to DFA them. Brian SoCalYankeeFan 8) Unless we can acquire Marte from Pitt or Fuentes from Rox as 8th inning for BP, time to give Robertson, Cox, et all a shot at it. They could hardly do worse than Hawkins and Farnsworth (and get paid a lot less). If Hawkins and Farnsworth can’t be traded, it’s time to DFA them.

Brian
SoCalYankeeFan 8)

]]> By: Billy http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/comment-page-3/#comment-404626 Billy Tue, 24 Jun 2008 21:31:51 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/06/24/the-8th-inning-issue-coming-to-a-head/#comment-404626 Farnsy needs to stay around to provide protection for Cox off the field once he arrives:) Farnsy needs to stay around to provide protection for Cox off the field once he arrives:)

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