Game 81: Yankees at Mets
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- June
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Sorry for the technical difficulties. But we’re back.
YANKEES (43-37)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Pettitte LHP
METS (39-40)
Reyes SS
Easley 2B
Wright 3B
Beltran CF
Delgado 1B
Tatis RF
Phillips LF
Castro C
Santana LHP
Andy Pettitte (8-5, 4.04) vs. the Mets hitters.
Johan Santana (7-6, 2.93) vs. the Yankees hitters.
ROSTER MOVE: RHP David Robertson was called up from Triple-A Scranton. LHP Kei Igawa was optioned back to Scranton. RHP Oneli Perez was DFA’d.
UPCOMING ROTATION
Monday vs. Texas: Mike Mussina
Tuesday vs. Texas: Joba Chamberlain
Wednesday vs. Texas: Sidney Ponson
Thursday vs. Boston: Andy Pettitte
Friday vs. Boston: Darrell Rasner
Saturday vs. Boston: Mike Mussina
Sunday vs. Boston: Joba Chamberlain
INJURY UPDATES
Hideki Matsui: The Yankees admitted that surgery was a possibility. “That would be the last option but we can’t rule it out,” Brian Cashman said. He had his knee drained again.
Ian Kennedy: Pitching today for Class A Tampa.
Phil Hughes: Two or three weeks away from getting in a game. “He’ll be back this season but I can’t say it’ll be on the major-league level,” Cashman said.
Brian Bruney: Throwing a BP on Tuesday. First game will be 2-3 days after that.
Chris Britton: Pitching in a rehab game on Tuesday.
UPDATE, 3:41 p.m.: The tarp is on the field. No word on game time. But Glenn Close just did the National Anthem. Keep those bunnies away from her.
Sorry again for the technical issues. I have no idea what happened. We’ll try and make it up to you with as many updates as possible today.
UPDATE, 3:47 p.m.: Now they seem to be getting ready to take the tarp off. It has yet to rain.
UPDATE, 4:22 p.m.: OK, we’re underway after a delay of 24 minutes.
UPDATE, 4:33 p.m.: Yes, that is our old friend Andy Phillips playing left field for the Mets. He’s in the outfield for the third time in his career.
A FEW NOTES ON THE PITCHERS: Santana hasn’t picked up a win since June 1, although he has a 2.08 ERA since then. The Mets are 9-7 in games he has started.
Andy Pettitte is 3-0, 0.43 in his last three starts. The line: 21 14 1 1 4 19. Can’t do much better than that.
UPDATE, 4:53 p.m.: Interesting little game within the game there as Andy Pettitte faced Andy Phillips. The two are very close friends. When Phillips was going through all of his family issues the last two years, it was Pettitte who helped himk through it. I’m sure they didn’t like the idea of facing each other. Phillips hit the ball well but flew to right.
UPDATE ON ROSS OHLENDDORF: Interesting news on Ohlendorf today. The Yankees are going to have him work as a starter at Scranton. They want him to work on his secondary pitchers, particularly his split-finger fastball. By going multiple innings, he can throw more pitches in game situations.
His numbers in the big leagues have been brutal this season. But i still believe some of that is a product of how he has been used. Ohlendorf was a one-inning guy in spring training, then he became a long reliever. Then he went to one-inning stints for a while.
Now he’s a starter. Keep in mind that he was a starter in the minors last season before moving to the pen. I think the guy has a big arm and competes. They just need to figure out how best to harness that.
UPDATE, 5:18 p.m.: Jeter has now reached base safely via hit or walk in 42 consecutive interleague games. I have no idea that is impressive or not. I guess it is. It certainly sounds impressive.
UPDATE, 5:23 p.m.: Big spot for the ’stache. Bases loaded, no outs, down 1-0. The ’stache cannot possibly fail here. The power of the ’stache is limitless.
UPDATE, 5:24 p.m.: OK, RBI groundout and it’s 1-1. The ’stache will take what it can get. The season has reached its midpoint today and Jason Giambi has 46 RBI. Raise your hands if you thought that was going to be the case.
UPDATE, 5:32 p.m.: Beyond taking the lead, which is always good, the Yankees made Santana work hard in the fourth inning. He’s at 74 pitches now. This guy is a six-inning pitcher on a good day. On a muggy day like this, he could be done soon.
UPDATE, 5:25 p.m.: It’s getting dark here at Shea. The Yankees would be wise to keeep the lead aftter 5 innings.
Meanwhile, Knicks draft pick Danilo Gallinari was on the field before the game. Maybe he’s the next Larry Bird. But he looks like a kid with skinny legs who is going to get belted around. He has Arn Tellem as his agent and he was here as well. The Big G (also a client) posed for a photo with the kid.
UPDATE, 5:45 p.m.: It’s raining. The Mets and Yankees could cure droughts around the world by traveling around and playing games. It rains every time they have a series.
Quick, easy inning there for Santana. That gets him off the hook a little.
UPDATE, 5:59 p.m.: Another pickoff for Pettitte. He has a knack for it but that is just dumb base-running by Reyes.
It hasn’t been a classic matchup because of the five walks, but Pettitte and Santana have been impressive.
UPDATE, 6:09 p.m.: It’s starting to rain harder now.
UPDATE, 6:17 p.m.: Huge hit for Cano. He is 18 of his last 45.
It’s nearly pouring now.
UPDATE, 6:23 p.m.: The tarp is down and we’re in a delay. I’ll alert you if and when they determine a re-start time.
UPDATE, 6:50: The rain is letting up and the skies are clearing. They’re starting to pull the tarp. No word on a start time. Santana is done, he’s well over 100 pitches. Not sure on Pettitte. It’s usually a 45-60 minute window. Andy will fight them to stay in the game.
UPDATE: The game will start up again at 7:10 p.m.
UPDATE, 7:10 p.m.: Andy Pettitte, back at it.
UPDATE, 7:13 p.m.: Pettitte has allowed 12 homers this season, matching him with Mussina for the most.
UPDATE, 7:19 p.m.: That’s it for Santana, six innings as predicted. He has not won since June 1. Great job by Pettitte, too: 6 5 2 2 3 4. Other than the two solo homers, he dominated the Mets.
Now it gets dicey. Some combo of Veras and Farnsworth then Mo. Pettitte was at 88 pitches. Would it have been worth it to let him take his AB then come back out for the seventh? They do have the lead.
UPDATE, 7:25 p.m.: It’ll be Veras against Phillips, Castro and a pinch hitter.
UPDATE, 7:27 p.m.: Luis Castillo hitting for Phillips.
UPDATE, 7:32 p.m.: Ian Kennedy’s line from today’s game between the Single-A Tampa Yankees and Palm Beach Cardinals in Jupiter, Fla.: 5 2 0 0 1 4. 74 pitches/47 strikes.
UPDATE, 7:47 p.m.: By no means should this be intended as being critical of Joe Girardi. All managers play by the book. But shouldn’t the closer face the 2-3-4 hitters instead of the set-up man? Who cares that it’s the 8th inning? This is the game right here.
UPDATE, 7:54 p.m.: Stellar work by Krazy Kyle, with some assistance from Johnny Damon. Now it’s Mo for Delgado, Tatis and a pinch hitter.
UPDATE, 8:10 p.m.: If Rivera can close it out, the Yankees will have held the Mets to two runs in 18 innings at their park the last two days. Teams really do have their personalities set by starting pitching. It’s reason No. 1,324 why making Joba a starter was the smart move.
One way or another, back later with reaction.
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From Kat’s blog;
Here’s some pregame news and the lineup:
David Robertson was called up from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. Whenever he pitches, it will be his major league debut. Robertson said the callup came: “a whole lot quicker than I thought. I wasn’t really expecting it. I’m just glad to be here though.â€
Robertson had a combined 1.39 ERA in 29 games at Double-A Trenton and Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre. He had allowed just 26 hits and 22 walks in 51 2/3 innings, and had 74 strikeouts.
We haven’t gotten the corresponding 25-man roster move, but Sidney Ponson is going to be starting Wednesday and Dan Giese is moving to the bullpen, so it’s neither of them.
Joe Girardi said of Ponson: “We like the way he threw the ball last night.â€
The Yankees are flip-flopping Mike Mussina and Joba Chamberlain in the rotation, since Mussina only threw 45 pitches in the rainout and Chamberlain threw 114 his last time out. Mussina will pitch Monday and Chamberlain Tuesday.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan good afternoon everyboddddddddddyyy….robertson….well rested hope we get a peek today unless andy feels like throwing 9 innings of shutout ball..im col with that…lets go yankees….
any news on the roster move????
That might be the shortest game thread post in the history of LoHud.
DFA hawkins please!
he is garbage
I wondewr what Chris Russo will say if we lose today
Need a new alarm clock Pete?
Why cut and paste Kat’s entire entry? Why not just provide a link? I’m sure she’d appreciate the traffic.
okay here you go.
http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/blog/
Kat’s blog is garbage.
Bye Bye LaToilet Hawkrap!
Good move for certain. Now if we can find a real lefty to replace the $ 46 million dollar Kamikaze pilot we’ll be making some real progress.
is this really true robertson got called up i wish it was for hawkins
It’s weird to see Andy Phillips in a Mets uniform…
Thank goodness, I was afraid that Pete had tried to recreate Sam Borden’s walk from Yankee Stadium to Shea and gotten lost on Randall’s Island.
Weather doesn’t look too good right now.
http://tinyurl.com/52sps4
I am at shea. They just put the tarp on.
Per Suzyn:
Bruney should be back right after the ASB
Hughes is a long way off – at least 3 more weeks before he can start throwing
Hawkins is too valuable in the pen as the million dollar mop-up.
RHP Oneli Perez was DFA’d.
who?
I gather the Yankees will demote the AG.
He should have been impeached for his role in having those US Attys. fired but I’m sorry to see him demoted, nonetheless
oneli Perez = six fingers.
Tarp on? It’s clear here.
Bob, We picked him up on waivers.
But the team still has to make a move on the 25.
Lets create some debate Steve Philips and BT are argueing on 1050, if it were a choice and you had to decide on Don Mattingly or Derek Jeter who would you take as your franchise player ?
6 fingers
yeah we still have Hawkins.. maybe I am thick in the head, what the hell does he do for the team?????
Why is he still on the roster???
Igawa at least is 6 yrs younger, Hawkins serves absolutely no purpose.. I just cannot understand……
Perez is the guy with 6 fingers, they just picked him up about 2 weeks ago…
Rebecca it just rained by me.
Brandon: Jeter.
Rings.
Well Donnie’s 47 and Jeter is 34 so I’d have to go with Jeter. lol
Jesus Christ Hawkins stays !@#@$@!
” Don Vito A. Bellamo
April 2nd, 2008 at 9:26 pm
Oh…and just so I am clear…Hawkins may be a heck of a guy, no argument there, but I will remain confident that he will not be able to perform anywhere near where he needs to, to be a contributor. I truly hope that I am wrong, but I see the pressure of being a NYY being too much for him. I would expect that he would either get traded or sent down by the All Star break. Just my opinion. ( let the insults begin ! )”
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The clock has STRUCK for LaTroy ? Let’s hope so !
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Before the back injury Mattingly looked like a shoo-in for Cooperstown.
Tough argument to take a side in.
Donnie was a great ballplayer.
In thier prime Bob.
Go get ‘em Yanks!
Kevin
Bruney can help if he just throws stirkes.. he had a whole new attitude this season and looked pretty good even afte giving up multi HR’s against the rays..
I expect a totally new pen before the end of July.. 4 new arms from last week.. mo, kyls, and veras will be kept the rest is up in the air…
Hawkins is just taking up space.
jennifer: Must be popping up east of me.
Hey Brandon
How many HR’s will Santana allow today?
They sent Igawa down.
I don’t think they’ll DFA Hawkins. I think at some point Cashman will find somebody to take him. Teams are desperate you know.
Brandon: Jeter.
Rings.
That wasn’t all Jetes, I’d take Donnie Baseball over Jetes as my franchise player in his youth, prime anytime.
I haven’t been here at shea since 2000 and now I remember why. Place is a dump. Yes the tarp is on but I don’t see any rain so likely they see something coming. Glenn close is singing the anthem. Wow.
Oh God…a Saturday afternoon FOX game against Boston with Moose on the mound…..I’m having a bad flashback.
Rebecca – I am about 5 miles from Shea and the skies are very dark here.
Hey Brandon
How many HR’s will Santana allow today?
The way the Yankees swing in these type of games when will they get the first hit w/ RISP is my question
Glad to hear bruney healing.
Mattingly vs. Jeter, pre-back injury it’s Mattingly in a landslide. He was a much more explosive player, hit for more power while still keeping hs average high. He was also brilliant defensively. Sadly, he was on teams that just had no pitching, and never had the chance to be in the post-season in his prime. No doubt, Jeter wound up having the better career, but based on potential when starting a team, I’d take Donnoe Baseball.
Does Donnie get a chance to avoid his fate of injuries, or he’ll be stuck with them anyway?
Bye bye Igawa
Bob: I was *at* the first one.
Which by now, probably doesn’t come as a surprise.
Here’s one person’s view of which NY team is better equipped for the future:
http://www.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/ny-spken275743369jun27,0,5300482.column
perez didn’t have full sized extra fingers. they looked like an inch long or so. like little nubs or something. just outside the pinky finger.
they are pulling the tarp!
The Pirates are starting someone named Ty Taubenheim. Thanks for holding him back when we were in town, Pittsburgh!
…Are they seriously showing the Chicago game on FOX?
WTF why are we getting cubs, white sox here in NY
“It’s weird to see Andy Phillips in a Mets uniform…”
Everyone looks weird in a Mets uniform…
can someone tell me why Fox is broadcasting Cubs vs. Sox game? WTF!
they went halfway and put it back on. Ugh
Yeah what is gogn on with FOX???
David Robertson’s curveball makes Crazy Eddie’s prices seem normal (ok, I’m showing my age).
jay destro, I’m glad we have someone on the inside at Shea. Stay safe and try not to breathe too deeply!
is anyone else getting the cubs and whitesox? im using Direct tv
I live in North Jersey there is no way i should not be getting the Yankees Mets game on FOX
My guess is it’s Cubs/Sox during the delay, but if they don’t switch, I’m going to be a little upset.
Ty Taubenheim? Is he related to Fyvush Finkel?
Did NY just job to Chicago?
I’d take Jeter if each is at his best… shortstops are much harder to find than power hitting first basemen. That said, Mattingly at his best is the # 2 1B in Yankees history, so I’m not down on him at all.
Yea now they are pulling it again. And after it started. Raining. No lines on the field yet. We got a wait ahead of us.
ahhhh put the NY game not the CHI game back on!!!!!!
Jay maybe they are dumping the water off.
June 28th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
Mattingly vs. Jeter, pre-back injury it’s Mattingly in a landslide. He was a much more explosive player, hit for more power while still keeping hs average high. He was also brilliant defensively. Sadly, he was on teams that just had no pitching, and never had the chance to be in the post-season in his prime. No doubt, Jeter wound up having the better career, but based on potential when starting a team, I’d take Donnoe Baseball.
Exactly I love Jetes but give me Donnie Baseball over him any day, I don’t wanna hear this crap about look at his fingers it has rings, let Donnie Baseball and him switch places in the eras they played baseball, there is no chance he has one ring. Stick finally wised up and brought players that could contribute and George was a big factor in the FA market w/ giving Stick the $$$ resources to obtain them.
Donnie Baseball had Paul O’neil and Jim Leyritz, doesn’t anyone think had he had Darryl Strawberry, Pettitte, Mo as a CL and Cecil Fielder DH the Yankees wouldn’t have won a championship ? Eh enjoy the game I’ll be back later.
Lazy bum.
Everyone relax, cleary we are getting this Chicago game while the NY game is delayed, but I’m sure they’ll switch back when there’s baseball at Shea.
Well, Perez was a short lived fling. Maybe he makes it through waivers and he fills a spot in the sticks. I’m really disgusted about the Igawa deal, though. The Yanks finally get their left handed bullpen ace, and then send him down. Why are they trying to bury this kid. Cashman just likes old guys. Why else would he keep Damon, Abreu, Jeter, Pettitte Rivera, Mussina, and Rodriguez when you have young studs like Gardner, Robertson, Jackson, Melancon and Igawa withering on the vive?
Don’t worry, the game will be on.
Rebecca,
I get the privilege of watching a “preview of the world series”. gag.
Side note, yesterday’s White Sox highlights showed Nick Swisher and a teammate doing the hand shake thing after a HR. The funny part was they ended it in the Captain Morgan’s stance.
Think Ponson could get that endorsement? Maybe do the stance after each K?
they are showing it until the yanks game starts
“David Robertson’s curveball makes Crazy Eddie’s prices seem normal (ok, I’m showing my age).”
LOL. I remember those wacky Crazy Eddie commercials “It’s insane”
I also remember the owner went to jail..or something like that
mel: I saw the captain morgan thing.
Igawa looked pretty sharp last nite but he is very inconsistent.
Hence, Bosox/Yanks series coming up.
I know Vasquez pitched for the Yankees but this ain’t the game I want to be watching! What’s up with that?
Okay just saw on the screen. Rain delay.
Phew.
Hey, stop complaining guys, at least yours will switch to the NYY/NYM game when it starts.
Javy Vasquez is pitching for the White Sox.. I just had a Game 7 ALCS flashback.
He was just described as a talented young right hander. At what point are you not considered young anymore? I mean, the guy is in his 30’s.
tarp is now gone. Give en 20 mins to prep and we should have baseball
It would have been nice if Fox could have mentioned the rain delay and said they’d join Yanks-Mets when it was over. But this is the same network that cut away from a game mid-batter to show NASCAR, so not really much of a surprise.
I hate rain delays.
mel: Ponson should do a mug shot stance after every K.
Hello Everyone
Is anyone going to the Friday Game 4Th of July???
Mattingly (before the injury) was an incredible player. In 1985 (before the steroid era) he drove in 145 runs!!
The guy also won 9 Gold Gloves.
Jay: Thanks!
UtilityMan: I’d ask for tickets, but that may draw the ire of this board.
Hurray for David Robertson.
UtilityMan,
I’m going to the game on the 4th. Should be a good time
Rebecca, the only way to beat this streak is to keep going to games. Or succumb to it and go back to Italy. Or send me to Italy. Or send me to the Stadium. Some combination of the above will surely work.
4:20 gametime
4:20 PM start of the game.
YankeeJosh – I am not a fan of Fox, but in their defense Jeannie Zelasko did say we would get the Cubs until the Yank/Mets started.
Nick,
One side for swinging, one for looking?
Game 81! The half way point. We can just double everyone’s stats to project their season ending numbers!!
Rebecca, I’m please to see your Bruney infatuation hasn’t waned.
I retract my scathing complaint last night about the promotion of Igawa. I’m thrilled it wasn’t long-term. But once again, the front-office’s roster decisions baffle and exasperate me.
By demoting Igawa, the Yankees now have no one who can take a bullet and save the bullpen in a blow-out until Giese can pitch again in 5 days.
Once they promoted Igawa, they should have retained him long enough for Giese’s arm to recover.
Hawkins threw 30 pitches yesterday. When is he available again for mop-up duty? Certainly not today, and probably not tomorrow.
God forbid neither Pettitte nor Rasner last five innings. What are the Yankees going to do? Waste Robertson on mop-up duty.
They need to save the A-bullpen arms, Veras and Farnsworth and Edwar (?), for winnable games.
Come on Cashman.
Nice curveball to end the ending. I want the Cubbies to win, but I don’t want Javy to get hammered.
Good afternoon,
I just want to say history does repeat itself. Ponson pitched just as good if not better than his previous debut with us. If i was Girardi i would tell him to keep drinking what he was drinking before the game.
I dont know if that Igawa is our bullpen savior was serious or not. AAA has his name written all over him.
Gotta go camping in a zoo today. Pray i dont get eaten by a lion.
Fran,
I must have missed that. My apologies to the Foxies.
Rebecca Nick’s in San Francisco. You know mellow dude, mellow part of the world. Maybe he doesn’t feel the pain the way we do around the Bronx. Too far away to get the intense vibes. I’d say you might want to stay home for a while. Really. Stay home and hang with us during games. Please. Stay home.
Speaking of Kat’s blog….
Pete, is there a reason why do not have a link to her blog?
You have the link for many other beat writers.
In fact, you have links to so many blogs which are just junk…..
Per Kevin Goldstein @ baseballprospectus.com, 6/25/08 –
David Robertson: As a small righty, Robertson doesn’t pass the scouting sniff test, but he keeps getting hitters out, easing concerns about his height. In over 130 innings as a pro, he’s yet to give up a home run, and in 28 appearances between Double- and Triple-A this year, he has a 1.74 ERA and 71 strikeouts in 49 2/3 innings. With a low-90s fastball and outstanding slider, Robertson may not have Melancon’s upside, but he might get the call sooner.
almost done prepping field
On an unrelated note. I just saw Rebecca on an old youtube video. She is as cute as a bug in a rug!
Speaking of Kat’s blog….
Pete, is there a reason why do not have a link to her blog?
You have the link for many other beat writers.
In fact, you have links to so many blogs which are just junk…..
She’s a joke. She’s the one who called all the Nebraska hospitals trying to “verify” that Joba’s dad really was in the hospital and when no one would give her info speculated that he wasn’t really sick and something else was going on.
jason jones to aaa. yay.
SoS27, I wouldn’t be so concerned about the lions so much, just don’t hang around the primate house too long.
Clay/Joe: color me mortified. Which video?
All right, blog poll. I have tickets for the game on 22 July against the Twins.
Do I go or not go? Fairly decent seats. Lower level, main reserved.
An afternoon with Joe Buck-Ugh
Hahaha…
Joe Buck’s an idiot…
Never turn down baseball tickets.
Jay,
Thanks for the updates. Hope you check in once in a while, some of us are stuck watching the Chicago series.
when they cut the Cubs game i was like ^_^
thank you
“Nice curveball to end the ending. I want the Cubbies to win, but I don’t want Javy to get hammered.”
Javy should have his arm fall off for his stinko performance in Game 7 in 2004.
An afternoon with Joe Buck-Ugh
An afternoon with the TV muted.
Rebecca – Go for it. Law of averages.
So three “goes” and one “don’t go”
“Gotta go camping in a zoo today.”
You don’t read a line like the one above much.
“She’s a joke. She’s the one who called all the Nebraska hospitals trying to “verify†that Joba’s dad really was in the hospital and when no one would give her info speculated that he wasn’t really sick and something else was going on.”
If that is true she should be ashamed of herself. What goes on with some people?
Rebecca – Park it.
Don’t go Rebecca, you’re a jinx.
There is lot of infatuation here with the prospects.
Just becuase they were good/great in AAA, does not mean they will succeed in ML. See what is happened to Ohlendorf and is happening to Edwar. And see what happened to Giese once there there is tape to watch from his outings before.
Robertson was great in AAA. But, his conrol is still iffy and in ML the hitters do not swing at non strikes like the AAA guys do. So, it is important that we temper our expectations about Robertson at least initially.
Having said that, let us hope he will be off to a great start, build his confidence and help the team.
Rebecca,
You and some other guy were trying to save the field at Yankee Stadium.
Rebecca – I am willing to give you one more chance to turn your record around! Go for it.
anyone catch the All Star Commercial?
pretty neat especially wit Jeet and A-Rod in it
lol David Robertson doing the lineup
Rebecca,
Go. You’re due for a win.
Hahah Robertson doing the lineups. Classic.
We cannot lose to a team that starts Andy Phillips and Tatis.
DAVID ROBERSTON SITING!
Also, the ASG commercial makes me want to cry because I am willing to do almost anything for tickets…
going to the Tampa game tonight to see IPK…. i’ll give some updates when I can
Ha! Nice lineup job by David Robertson… “I don’t know any of these guys…”
“She’s a joke. She’s the one who called all the Nebraska hospitals trying to “verify†that Joba’s dad really was in the hospital and when no one would give her info speculated that he wasn’t really sick and something else was going on.â€
If that is true she should be ashamed of herself. What goes on with some people?
It’s true.
If she has a blog archive, you can go back to the time he was in the hospital and find it. I haven’t been back since. It was disgraceful.
Joe: Ah, yeah That one didn’t go over too well.
Rebecca is a little self important. There are 55,000 there. it doesn’t matter whether you go or not.
I can’t count on anything from Ian Kennedy this year. Others have pulled ahead of him on the radar. He’ll need to re-group over the winter and try it again next spring.
Damon has been hot for a long time now. It’s not just being hot. He’s this good.
Denny: It’s a joke/superstition/whatever.
And wasn’t Johnny on the DL last year?
Clay,
It was a fathers day present. I dont know if i should take it as a compliment or my wife trying to cash in on the life insurance.
Rebecca, your heart was in the right place.
Denny, Rebecca is Optimist Prime. She is very important!
Not to rain on anyones parade but doesn’t it seem all these Yankee callups have great numbers at Scranton but when they get on the mound up here they can’t seem to throw strikes or get batters out? I seem to remember Edwar Ramirez and Ian Kennedy have ridiculously good numbers at Sranton yet it didn’t translate into success in the big show. Karstens had 11 strikeouts the other day. Is the international league hitting that bad?
Santana or IPK and Hughes???
hmmm
Great move
Well, remember when I was whining about Jeter’s lack of pop…uh…nevermind.
Safecrack – we won’t know how great that move was for another few years.
I hate games on fox
Yay Bobby!
I say go. I don’t think they’re losing becuase you’re there, more like despite you being there. You’ve just been unlucky so far – but they’re bound to win, and then the streak ends.
Abreu’s on fire. That hit against Smith was just incredible. The concentration and hand-eye coordination required for it..my God.
Tim McCarver’s analysis of Bobby is making my ears bleed.
Rebecca,
I’d gladly take the tickets from you, but my luck this year at going to games is about as bad as yours.
Got to make him work a little harder, boys. This is a Pedro-in-his-prime situation. Santana’s many things, but he isn’t a 120-pitch horse.
Oh, Brandon must be in pain…
Ivan Drago doing lineups for Mets
Did he just call him “John Santana?”
Joe Buck and Tim Mccarver…….it doesn’t get much better than that, maybe acid in your ears, but other than that, Greatness.
I hate games on fox, they are so stupid in the booth
“Santana or IPK and Hughes???
hmmm
Great move”
You mean Santana’s 91mph fastball(3 less than last year)/homerun pitch or Wang,Kennedy and Melky. Id say great move is correct.
My favorite new show (that I just started watching) is Dexter.
Yes, the lack of Damion Easley, his average glove, and .252 career batting average was a dreadful loss.
I’ve been watching Dexter since the first episode. Interesting concept.
Andy. Strike zone. Find it.
Rebecca – tell Andy to find the strike zone! He usually listens to you!
or not.
come on Andy
Which is better usage “sighting” or “siting”?
July 22 is my best chance to see a Yankee home game this year, I’m trying to figure out a way to get to that game. And/or the 23rd.
Denny
Stop being rude to Rebecca. She is the nicest person on this blog.
Clay
That is a great show!! I just bought season 1 for 20 bucks
Rebecca’s so self important when she instructs our pitchers.
Andy. Throw a bleepin’ strike.
And those hitting instructors that fail to understand that it is possible to make outs on pitches outside the strike zone generally aren’t hitting instructors for very long.
Andy, this is no good. Strikes.
this win one lose one is killing me..
id rather see geise get another shot over rasner. geise’s stuff seems a bit better and he was just wild yesterday, where as rasner doesnt have anything good, just crafty (i.e., needs luck).
id say matsui is out till the allstar break, they will bring gardener up to see if he is legit (then maybe trade melky).
Is it Andy, or the umpire? Some of those pitches did not look like balls.
WTF ANDY!!!
“peaceful”
Didn’t Manuel (jokingly) threaten to knife Reyes if he challenged his authority again?
I hope Pettitte finds the strike zone very quickly.
Come on
Hi Pete
Wow Pettitte getting squeezed. Unbelievable how much our pitchers have been squeezed this weekend. The first pitch to Wright was right down the middle even and Gameday confirms it.
I think the Kat-Joba’s dad incident was blown somewhat out of proportion. She was fact-checking, which is what a reporter does. Did she make a mistake and maybe go over the line? Possibly. But no reporter is perfect. For those who care, this was her defense of the whole matter: http://weblogs.newsday.com/sports/baseball/yankees/blog/2008/04/message_from_kat.html
Aside from Pete and lohud, the Newsday Yankees blog is the best newspaper blog for providing timely and accurate information, which is really what I care about. I also like that any reporter covering the game posts there. I personally really enjoy reading Reiber when he’s at games.
Andy, DP here.
Dont give him that pitch again
Has Melky/Gardener reached dead horse status yet?
Strike zone doesn’t look very consistent to me… That’s a strike, though! Nice K by Andy!
That’s better Andy – one more.
Wow still cheering Delgado I hear
Anyone know if we can watch the game in Sopcast? If so, what channel?
VRSCE, thanks, though I’m not sure that’s necessarily accurate…
Phew thought Delgado hit that out but it was just a flare.
Oh Jesus I thought that was leaving the yard the way he looked
Well, that’s better.
Settle in, Andy.
“Wow Pettitte getting squeezed. Unbelievable how much our pitchers have been squeezed this weekend. The first pitch to Wright was right down the middle even and Gameday confirms it.”
He was missing. I trust the ump my more than Gameday.
No, ny2cali.
Looks like Andy might be taking some cues from Sir Sidney on how to squirm out of trouble.
Angel: Yes.
Got fooled on that one. Delgado took a big swing but Andy buried that fastball in. Nice pitch for the 1-pitch out.
How was I being mean to Rebecca? I just said it doesn’t matter if you go or not. So you may as well go. Relax, Versace. Get a grip it’s a nice day.
K, then i’m calling PETA and reporting equine cruelty next time its brought up.
If Matsui has the surgery, do we keep Justin up, or bring Brett up? Not that Christian did bad, but Gardner is the higher prospect isnt he?
Giambi has never been affiliated with Husky and Starch as Buck suggested.
Don’t know if you counted my vote automatically but PLEASE DON’T GO.
I wouldn’t even have to ask if that was my track record!
nycali,
Looks like only tvants. I’ve never used it, but if you want to try, here’s the link:
http://www.myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=13944&part=sports
Joe Buck: “Here is Giambi…who looks like he just got off a casting call for Starsky and Hutch”
….or a late 70’s/early 80’s adult film.
haha Pedro using the excuse of tipping his pitches
Um, I don’t buy that “tipping pitches” BS. Pedro’s getting hit in great part because he’s at the end of the rope.
Poor Church. That looked like it hurt.
Why cant Pedro admit hes just not good anymore
VRSCE,
Don’t worry about it. I already e-mailed Pete about Denny. I suspect, he might get banned.
Oh boy. This is the Twinkies’ Johan.
How does Santana’s loss of stuff look???
Wow, so far this is really ugly.
Wow umps really stretching the Met strikezone but not the Yankee
Figures. Santana gets everything near the plate and Pettitte has to throw it down the middle for a called strike.
Not to mention how many times the Yankees have seen Pedro… I think some of the hitters have figured him out.
…Headed for the alcohol. Like now.
How can they not realize the changeup is coming on strike 2?
cano needs to be moved out of the 8th spot. move cano up infront of posada to give him protection
If Santana has bad stuff I do not want to hear people say what IPK, Hughes, Giese, Rasner, etc have.
I do not want to hear about the contract. They are going to pay more this off season to pitchers. May as well have the best.
Sopcast has notices about people being banned if they stream MLB games. I figure MLB went after them once it started being posted on blogs.
The alternate source will be next as soon as they get wind of it. I bet on it.
Somebody get a call to the dugout. Fastballs for the first two strikes, then, the changeup.
j/k. I know that they see the pattern. I just wanted to be a know-it-all.
Darn I have tickets for next Saturday, was hoping to see Joba not Moose. Well I guess I have 4 tickets for next Sat for sale. Let’s go Yankees.
Andy’s gonna have to pitch his heart out today…got faith.
Wow the Mets 6-9 hitters are terrible.
This is year one of a SIX-YEAR contract. You cannot just discount the fact that just as important as Cashman’s unwillingness to surrender his prospects was his unwillingness to give a well-worked pitcher a massive contract.
“cano needs to be moved out of the 8th spot. move cano up infront of posada to give him protection”
Especially since Cano will hit like an All-Star for the rest of this year. At least that’s what I think he’ll do.
Didn’t Boston use the ol’ “tipping pitches” excuse with Gagne? Now that was hilarious.
to think we could have had Santana!
I smell a grueling pitchers’ duel here.
Santana looks good, especially with the ump giving him that outside corner to RHB, the same pitches he would call a ball when Pettitte was pitching. That’s just great.
sos27 youre making things up. down 3mph from last year? not quite.
07: 91.7
08: 91.1
try not to make crap up
Jeff NJ, this is the new, better Moose. I would love to be at that game! Not as much as I’d want to see Joba, but…
Nice play Jeets
Yeah im going to next Saturdays game too, could have sworn it was Joba
Thought Jeter couldnt go to his left?
Andy,
It’s Andy! Get it done.
Glad to see Robertson joined the team, I think he’ll stick. Good to get the first real new young blood reliever here. Just a matter of time before Melancon joins him. That will be some sweet set up men.
As for Ohlendorf, may as well try him as a starter if he can get some more pitches going. He has been getting killed by the 2nd time around, often even by the 2nd inning.
Ugh. I have White Sox vs Cubs. I hate FOX.
Which do you think is the greater disparity? That between the NL and AL in MLB or Eastern conference and Western conference in the NBA?
MCarver is crazy Andy pitch for another 4 years he barely made this year lol
I don’t think Andy getting to the Hall of Fame is such a stretch if he keeps pitching for a few more years as well as he has this year. Especially if he can get another ring or two in that time.
This out is huge, they have to lead off with John Santana
yup- Jeter has no range at short
“Wow the Mets 6-9 hitters are terrible”
#2(Easley) is a STIFF also, as was #5(Delgado)…save yesterday’s game 1…weak hitting NL club…DAMN
It was going to be Joba for that Saturday game, but Girardi flipped Joba and Moose in the rotation. There’s an update about it in the previous thread, I think.
How do you feel about that choice, Fire Girardi?
Seriously? Ramon Castro?
Is it me or does it look like Andy’s getting squeezed?
Funny that McCarver is being complimentary to the Yankees. So is it just that he sucks up to the Red Sox? I thought he pretty much trashed the Yankees whenever he got the chance.
I hate fox.
Actually, I’m not sure hate is a strong enough word.
Hey, it’s andy phillips!
I was wondering where he landed.
i am really beginning to be annoyed by the number of announcers that seem to always need to say something negative about Jeter’s range…especially after good plays that he makes.
check castros bat…theres gotta be something in it
a homerun pitch when santana is next…is rediculous…no excuse for that
Okay, maybe I should keep my mouth shut..
Johan’s decrease of velocity began apparent in the first half of LAST year. He’ll still has outing where he hits the mid-90s consistently, but he pitches more often in the low-90s.
The reality is that Santana’s fastball is not nearly as important as his changeup. If that pitch is deceptive enough, he won’t need to throw in the mid-90s with the FB. Look at Edwar (when he has his fastball command, and isn’t forced to pitch backwards and expose the change-up.)
Oops.
but Rebecca, Fox has the best news channel!
Did that homerun come right after Andy shook off Jorge?
For me, moving Joba sucks, but for the team its better.
Well that eliminated a cheat out for next inning.
Andy is struggling some today.
That’s just great. Probably the worst bottom of a lineup out there, and they get a run. That’s one more than we can afford.
Bugsy: Don’t even start with me. Seriously.
well then, Fire Girardi, you’re an idiot.
I see Girardi stretching Andy to 115-120 pitches today if he’s effective. He came out of his last outing early because of the rain. The pen isn’t as beat up as it could have been, but they aren’t fresh.
how pathetic… he has the pitcher on deck, santana has his “a” stuff and he leaves a fastball right over the plate!!! They must teach that in the bible…
Funny how some hate Fox while others hate CBS, ABC, NBC and CNN.
Umm how am I an idiot?
Melky needs to go yard.
I only hate Fox during Yankee games, and most of the time its Yankees-Sox because McCarver is just stupid, and Buck seems to be in love with the Sox
Anyone think that Santana isn’t trying to pitch the game of the century today? Let the Yankees see what they gave up.
The problem for the Mets is that the Phillies are going to turn it around, and leave the Mets in the dust.
Melky isnt too good from the right side of the plate, hes better from the left
Fire Girardi…my guess is bad genetics.
Why is giving up a HR to Castro such a shocker? He has alot of power…he just doesn’t get a lot of playing time.
his HR #’s over the previous 3 years:
‘05- 209 AB 8HR
‘06- 126 AB 4HR
‘07- 144 AB 11HR
Kevin
I don’t know why Santana would hold a grudge. There’s no indication he favored the Yankees over any other team that wasn’t in Minnesota.
Andy needs to go yard here.
its fine if we lose this game because we have rasner going tomorrow
Come on Pettitte…hit your 2nd homer.
Nice AB Andy.
Rebecca – I know u posted this awhile ago – but if you don’t go to that game against the Twins, I’d be interested in buying them from you, i’m going to be in NY for a few days during that series
um, its a shocker becuase pettire didnt need to actaully have to pitch to him with santana on deck… way to look up those stats tho’
I have a friend who swears that Zelasko is a cross dresser or something. He thinks she was a guy at one point.
It’s no surprise, Castro always plays better on days that his childhood idol, Livan Hernanzez, pitches.
Im gonna go out on a limb and say the Phillies sweep the Mets next weekend
Rebecca- it’s true.
Fox news anchors wear the skimpiest outfits and have the longest legs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1qAnx-_LmY
This isn’t encouraging. Sigh.
pettite doesnt have the chops to go head to head with santana, cant afford to make dunb ass mistakes
This is just…I mean…
I’m not really watching this, right?
Thinking optimistically, it’s still just the third inning, we can still win this…
Yankee hitters need to get it going.
Hey JoeT I’d be willing to take up a collection so you can offer Rebecca a price she can’t refuse!
damon seems to be back into his bad ways
I can’t stop visualizing Santana in a Yankee uniform.
Damn you Brina Cashman.
JoeT: Sorry man, but the tickets aren’t up for sale.
Well if the umps still feel the need to squeeze Pettitte, this could possibly be a bad inning
McCARVER, SHUT THE #@%# UP!
Andy pitches better from behind than with a lead anyway, this is all ok.
Rebecca I think yesterday’s game really did you in. You sound punchdrunk now. It’s one game. It happens. The score was lopsided. Yankees have won lopsided games.
Desperate in the 3rd inning down one run? Not cool.
*imagines her Santana ship scenario all over again*
Hi Pete.
Andy, please do better than this.
When’s the last time Yanks won a game on FOX?
mark: Yeah. you’re right. I don’t sound like myself.
My apologies.
lol…. umps only squeeze yankee pitchers, right? man its getting harder and harder to be a yanks fan
Melkman with the D
That’s why we need Melky and not Santana.
NICE MELKY
Andy, this is really uncomfortable to watch.
“When’s the last time Yanks won a game on FOX?”
That’s a good question.
I hate Fox…
75% of the Earth is covered by water. The rest is covered by Melky Cabrera.
I love how Keith calls me an idiot, no reasoning, and just gets out of dodge.
Better be a web gem.
If I had to witness yesterday’s first game firsthand, it might take me a day to recover from it too, lol
I believe they almost won on Fox this year. But he last one I can remember is early 2007
Stormrider: So true.
totally agree mark. that catch was definitely worth a rotation with sidney ponson, dan gise and darrel rasner. sick catch.
“That’s why we need Melky and not Santana.”
Um no.
I wasn’t aware Santana could fill three spots in the rotation.
Wow great call ump haha
All right, Yankees, now’s the time to do the run scoring thingie.
Honestly, talk about not being able to get over something.
Santana went to the Mets. Get closure or something. Sheesh.
Way to go Andy!
santana gets so much strike calls, that lead to most of his k’s
Another strikeout of Beltran, Andy putting up a zero and allowing the Yanks to hang around. No matter how good Santana may look so far, it only takes one mistake. He’s not perfect.
Yeah I think its time to move on from Santana. Sabathia is better. Did you see him against the Reds? I dont care if he was 800 pounds, thats dominance
will we be hearing about the santana no trade 3 yrs. from now??? Some knuckleheads will be revising the offers and talking about it forever in my opinin.. whenever santana pitch’s well they will sho up and then go away until he pitch’s well again…
I am sure the Mets will be able to go out and sign some big FA’s this offseason because they o not have much $$$$$$$$$ tied up in long term contracts with older guys.
NAH…
Josh- great analysis!
No Yankee fan with a brain should be happy that we don’t have Santana.
It is why you accumulate prospects. You move some of them for established all stars in their prime.
Josh-
You better the hope the baseball tonight guys dont rip off that fantastic analysis
I actually heard Santana is a douche in the clubhouse. He refuses to talk to the american media before the spanish media. Doesnt get along with some of the white players
I’d like to see Robertson pitch.
come on Derek
Wow, McCarver can’t pronounce Derek… “Dirk”
lol, J-Dawg. Your brackets quote is timely in its appearance. You need more !!!!’s though.
You are going to hear about the Santana thing for 30 more years. Get used to it. It is what fans do. Why else would you be posting on a blog on a Sat afternoon???
Trades that were not made/made get analyzed and argued for decades. This will be no different.
I smell a good inning….
and I think Santana’s pitch count will yank him out early..he is really running the counts today.
51 pitches and no outs recorded in the top of the 4th.
Kevin
Hey look! A baserunner! What do we do with him?
Ok, 0 outs man on first, lets get something here. Maybe a hit or another walk, and an Abomb?
Leadoff walk. Make it happen guys.
“totally agree mark. that catch was definitely worth a rotation with sidney ponson, dan gise and darrel rasner. sick catch.”
LOL!
Yeah Angel good point. That game had to be tough to take.
Hope we play some small ball here.
anyone know what channel the Yankees are on using SopCast?
I think we bring up Santana because it was an obvious mis calculation by Brian Cashman. One in a long list of wrong moves.
Hughes has been an oft injured disappointment. Kennedy doesn’t have the stuff Hughes has and has been destroyed and injured. Melky can’t hit and CLEARLY isn’t the future in CF with A-JAX in the wings.
Even with Wang injured we could have a rotation of Pettitte, Santana, Moose, and Joba right now.
But no, now the Yankees will chase CC Sabathia and PROBABLY give up more for a lesser talent.
Manuels interview is drowned out by the latin music in the backround
The umps only squeeze Yankees.
I know we got a squad of Super Fans here but that is hilarious.
Also, one other thing: Assuming that we trade for Santana. That creates two holes in the rotation, one of which (depending on who you believe) might have been Wang. So Rasner is likely still in the rotation, assuming what pitching prospect that wasn’t traded got hurt like IPK and Hughes.
Let’s be realistic here: Santana’s not a sub-3.00 ERA pitcher in the AL. So, our hypothetical rotation is:
1. Santana
2. Pettitte
3. Mussina
4. Joba? Given our luck with young starters, it’s possible that he may have been hurt, putting a Giese or Ponson in his place. If you are going to rip young pitchers, you can’t exclude Joba because he doesn’t fit your argument.
5. ???
The reality is that if Wang hadn’t gotten hurt, with Joba in the rotation, we would not be hurting in the starting pitching department. We could mix and match with the 5th spot in the rotation.
We’d also have Damon in center, which would probably test his legs, resulting in inferior defense and almost certainly additional injuries to Damon. Matsui would be forced to play left, which is ugly to start with and further increases the odds that he gets injured with his balky knees.
How about a few of you guys think the whole situation through before blindly ripping Cashman and assuming that he could have had Santana. It seemed pretty evident that the Twins really didn’t want to give Santana to the Yankees in the first place.
In a thread last night, someone said that the Santana issue will never, ever go away and people will still be debating it in 30 years.
That still makes me laugh.
I still think Phil Hughes will be throwing darts before it’s all said and done and we’ll be happy that the Twins said no to the deal that was first on the table.
“No Yankee fan with a brain should be happy that we don’t have Santana.”
I resent statements like these. My name is Angel. I’m a Yankee fan, I have a functioning brain, and I’m okay with them not getting Santana.
Now to figure out the 12 other steps to my recovery.
Fo-Fo I hadn’t heard that Poson, Rasner, and Giese were the trade bait. Never mind I take it back.
LOL
Yes. 2 on no out. This “looks” good. But we know us and RISP
Two walks, no outs. Come on, A-Rod…
Santana losing his control. Lets hope the Yankees can get some runs this inning.
let’s get something from this..hopefully
Get some runs now while we have the chance.
Andy is going to be great the rest of the way.
Promise.
Arguing Balls and Strikes are we?
this ump has been all over the place with his strike zone and manuel just let him have it
Santana looking mortal…time for the MVP to step-up
As someone who listened to his father and uncle debate the Seaver trade the other day I can honestly say that the Santana debate will never end.
I want to see our money beat their money.
Make it happen, Alex.
Manuel is such a bad actor.
Ron – great post.
Derek Jeter owns the NL.
We are fighting for a playoff spot with Giese, Ponson and Rasner in the rotation.
I don’t know whether to be thrilled or disheartened.
Yeah baby
Is ARod standing too close to the plate this AB…NEVERMIND, nice hit MVP!
No Yankee fan with a brain should be happy that we don’t have Santana.
It is why you accumulate prospects. You move some of them for established all stars in their prime.
Well some people think that Santana might be a little on the downside of his prime. Yeah in fact I’m one of them. Every time I see Melky Cabrera make a play that saves runs either with a catch or an assist, I make the sign of the cross. Santana’s pricetag (money p0lus players) just wasn’t worth it.
LETS GO GIAMBINO!!!
Santa can’t find the strike zone..how sweet it is…
Kevin
Yessssss!
This is where we score big time against Santana!
Go Yanks!
“Josh-
You better the hope the baseball tonight guys dont rip off that fantastic analysis”
Cracking me up here. LOL.
60 pitches from Santana already
C’mon Jason. Drive one here.
thats ball 2 jason come on!!!
I have a question. Is the change up a pitch that’s a fastball that’s slower or is it a pitch that has movement on it?
Don’t get used to Melky in Center, mark.
Gardner will be there this summer and Austin Jackson next year.
Melky is trade bait.
Yeah Bino great hit
‘Stache Power…1-1 baby…I’ll take it
Behold, the shattered bat power of the ’stache!
BIG situation coming up here. Santana not only has the decrease in velocity, he doesn’t seem to have that aura of invincibility. He doesn’t seem to strike fear into hitters’ hearts like he used to.
Angel- Thanks! And here are the extra !!!!’s!
Damn, RBI groundouts are saving our ass in this series.
Don’t get used to Melky in Center, mark.
Gardner will be there this summer and Austin Jackson next year.
Melky is trade bait for sure.
Nice nice nice.
Now let’s get at least one more in.
he didnt throw jason a stike and he got lucky to not get dbl’d up
Alright, a run!!! I think that swing would have snapped a bat made of redwood!
Why is it always ‘Hughes and Kennedy’?
First version of the deal was Hughes/Cabrera/Marquez/one more prospect; Minnesota didn’t accept that in time (Yankees pulled this one after Andy came back).
Second version of the deal was Wang/Kennedy/Cabrera/Marquez/one more prospect; Yankees turned that down.
Anyway, let’s see how the Yankees present-day offense (merely 10th in the majors right now) can handle playoff-caliber pitching.
Nice, a productive out. Let’s go, Jorge. Finish the job.
jason, terrible at bat
he didnt throw you one strike!!!
Good hustle A Rod, getting to 2nd, staying out of the dp.
Gardner isnt going to be in CF this summer, and Def not Jackson next year
Melky is an easily replaceable piece especially when hasn’t been a factor with his arm. An arm which is supposed to be his only 5 Star tool.
Jackson is the future.
Giese or Santana?
Igawa or Santana?
Hughes or Santana?
Kennedy or Santana?
Pavano????
Why couldn’t they trade for Santana and sign Sabathia at the same time?
Why not have great starting pitching every night???
Use the financial resources. Shocking!
(combination of Andy coming back and no…Mike Cameron, IIRC, to fillin as stopgap in CF, rather)
Ok Posada, here comes the Changeup.
“Def not Jackson next year”
He said Austin Jackson, not Tabata.
Gardner has great raw speed. But by all accounts, he doesn’t have the intelligence in the field nor the cannon arm of Melky. And A-Jax isn’t ready. Remember all the complaining we did about Bernie and Damon? You lot really want to go through that again, with Damon and Matsui a year older? With Abreu’s wall-aversion, that’s the worst outfield defense in baseball! Instead, Damon’s talents are maximized in left, and Melky provides tremendous range in center.
come on
come on
Whoever made the point that we will debate the merits of Santana or no Santana for years is 100% right.
Especially with him in Queens.
Just a “dunker” scores two, Jorge…
“He said Austin Jackson, not Tabata.”
And so did I. Jackson isnt seeing the majors next season
Blargh, please stop letting the facts get in the way of good old-fashioned grousing!
Jorge needs to get at least one in here
I guess the Santana trade discussion is inevitable, but it is a big risk that almost never works out siging pitchers to long term deals. Add in the high level of players the Yankees needed to give back and it was a very easy decision to pass. Same reason Boston passed.
I should add Melky’s power surge helped keep us afloat early in the season. Let’s say Gardner couldn’t have done that. With his K rate, he’d have been below the Mendoza line.
Sean,
A changeup is basically a fastball but is gripped deeper in the hand kinda like choking the ball instead of letting whip off the finger tips. When thrown correctly (using the same arm slot and arm speed of the fastball delivery) it can be the most devastating pitch in the game.
By chocking the ball in your palm or using the more popular “Circle Change” the ball comes out looking like a fastball because the pitchers arm is essentially throwing the same speed as he would delivering a fastball, however because the ball is chocked off from the fingertips it comes out slower and usually dies about 6 to 12 inches before reaching the plate.
Get him to 80 pitches guys
It’s amazing how Kennedy and Hughes are constantly hailed as disappointments; this year was just the former’s *second* professional season (most players don’t make the majors after a single professional season; Kennedy and Chamberlain are both severe outliers in that regard), and the latter (Hughes) is still just 21 years old.
Volquez, who has been one of the best starters in the NL through three months, didn’t have very pretty numbers when he was Hughes’ age. It’s not like Phil and Ian have had a full season’s body worth of major-league work with which to judge, either.
Of course, most Yankee fans just aren’t used to being patient. Had Beckett been on this pitching staff two years ago, when he had his 5.00 ERA, I’m sure Yankee fans would have been demanding he go, too. (And I feel confident saying that after Vazquez was run out of town in a similar circumstance the previous year.)
Gardner is doing well.
It’d be sweet to get Robby up with one out.
HIP HIP JORGE!
Kevin
Works for me.
GOOD JOB JORGE!
Going over 70 pitches…me likey…NICE JORGE…2-1 good guys.
Jorge gets one in. Good job
Nice AB there, Jorge! Wear him out and still drive in the run! Come on, Robbie!
Beltran’s got a nice arm.
We’ve got the lead. A two-out hit by the resurgent Cano would make my day.
There’s the lead. When does Andy get up, pitcher’s kill Santana
Good job Jorgey
SHEA STADIUM IS TOO DAMN BIG!!!! YOU NEED METTLE BATS FOR THIS $HITTY PARK!!
Oh well,
“HIP HIP”…
good hit cano
I love Jorge.
Sometimes it works.
Robbie Cano is the man
The trade Cano people have gotten mysteriously quiet. As quiet as the DFA Giambi crowd.
need some insurance runs
M. Francessa, thank you. I never understood how a change up worked. I thought the announcers were saying it’s the same as a fastball but just slower. I didn’t realize it dies.
Fox announcers get one right – Don’t make the third out at third.
75 pitches in 4 innings…Wow
“I should add Melky’s power surge helped keep us afloat early in the season. Let’s say Gardner couldn’t have done that. With his K rate, he’d have been below the Mendoza line.”
His OBP of about 300 has been keeping us down from Day 1 but let’s keep him because he hit 6 homers in April.
His value will never be higher than right now because he is in CF.
Okay, hold them down, Andy. We’ll pull this out.
Hardly a world-beating inning, but you know what? Productive outs are important too.
Well, we got 2 and made him throw close to 30 pitches.
Well we scratched a couple of runs off of Santana…not bad!
Actually, Hughes is 22–forgot his birthday was less than a week ago. The point still stands, however.
Damnit, there went Andy’s grand slam opportunity
Melky is a decent bottom of the order hitter, just I hate it when they use him at leadoff. .250 with a .315 OBP is not going to help you as a leadoff hitter, you might as wel just shift everyone up a spot if Damon has to be out a day.
Santana at 75 pitches at least. Andy at 45.
Safecrack, if we could trade him for a Sabathia type, I’d do it. Gardner’s gotten a half-season in AAA, and I think he can at least match Melky’s production without an enormous drop-off.
I was talking more about dealing him for Santana. He was an extremely valuable asset, given the Yankees’ situation.
It’s sad that after a great AB by Jorge we have to watch 2 ridiculous AB’s by Cano and Melky. 4 pitches between the 2 of them, Jorge probably saw twice as many.
Santana at 75 pitches
Good explanation M. Francessa. I guess that confirms this is not the guy on the radio, he doesn’t know anything about anything.
Nice job by the Yankee offense there, Santana got himself into trouble with walks to the first two hitters, and they each came back to haunt him. Very nice AB by Jorge to get ahead, now it’s up to Andy to shut them down.
I’m a little teapot, short and stout! Here is my handle, here is my spout. When I get all steamed up, here me shout! Tip me over and pour me out.
Derek, not cool.
On the plus side, this is a Pettitte start and we do need a DP…
Jeff, LOL
Sean, No problem
Jeff, LOL
Sean, No problem
See?
Nice recovery, Cap’n. That’s the way to do it!
gold glove for the stache
Nice DP jetes.
Kevin
APhillips is a DP Machine…it’s amazing he’s still in MLB
That’s our boy Andy! Both of them!
That’s our boy Andy! Both of them!
Rebecca- And a double play you shall have!!
Jeter has no range
PC: 56 vs 74…sweet
I’m liking Andy for the most part today.
Wow, the radar looks…erm…not good.
Ah, Mr. McCarver and Mr. Buck being idiots with respect to Joba…
Wow is Fox stupid? They put up a stat item showing him having an ERA under 2.00 as a starter and then talk about how it was a mistake to take him out of the bullpen? Wow.
And you are a F’in IDIOT…Joba couldn’t throw 200 IP this year…dumba**es
Indecision? Does Tim McCarver have no clue at all about innings caps? Does he really think they just started Joba in the bullpen because they couldn’t make up their mind?
Here the Yahoos go again. Buck and McCarver exhibiting they have no clue about Joba.
I think the Yanks are trying to get through this inning quickly so its an official game.
That’s just horrible. Santana with a high pitch count, and JD hacks at the second pitch.
Wow these fox guys are stupid!! They are saying it is a stupid move to move Joba to the starting rotation.
i am not a fan of these new yankee “warmup/wind shirts” that the bench guys are wearing
Wow. Buck is just an idiot.
Is it official mid fifth or only after the end of the fifth?
My diatribe was directed at the Fox Morons…
Come on Pettitte 3 more outs and it’s official.
who has a fatter face: Sidney or Jaba?
How come evrybody has to bash McCarver and Buck every time they call a game? It is so old already. Some people believe he should have stayed in the bullpen. Calm down…
Kevin
Can one of you on here please educate McCarver that starting Joba in the rotation in the beginning of the year would have foreclosed him pitching past August with a 150 IP limit.
Why is Tim McCarver regarded as an expert? Because he played the game and can construct a semi-coherent sentence with a subject and predicate?
Of course as usual the looming threat of a rain delay hurts us far more than the other team. Santana has probably 1 more inning left in him. Pettitte at this pitch count is on pace to go 7.
Rebecca – only if the home team is ahead at 4 1/2 is it considered official. If not, its the end of the 5th.
damon is back in his funk
Rebecca – since the Mets are loosing they have to play 5 full innings
What kind of yankee fan calls him “Jaba”?
“who has a fatter face: Sidney or Jaba?”
Joba’s is baby fat whereas Sir Sidney’s is Heine induced…
zelly, in this case I’m bashing them because they’re apparently clueless about the facts regarding Joba. It’s fine to take the contrary view, but at least know what you’re talking about, Tim.
STOP THE PRESSES!
Can someone answer this question. When is a game official? I thought the rules changed and the whole game needs to be played again after a certain point or under certain conditions. I didn’t think 5 complete was automatically official anymore.
Pettitte looks great today..only one mistake so far. Yanks need to knock Santana out next inning and get into that weak Mets bullpen.
Kevin
It is pouring here in central NJ.
come on Andy!
Pick him off, Pettitte!
“Is it official mid fifth or only after the end of the fifth?”
Mid if home team winning, end if home team losing.
Kevin-
Has nothing to do with the SP/BP argument…has to do with using incorrect/wrong/speciuos/erroneous/baseless/unfounded/bogus/phonymade-up facts to support said argument.
it’s early. it’s only 6 o’clock. we can endure a 3 hour rain delay.
mark,
I said during the Bucs game that if it goes 5 full, it’s suspended. You resume at a later time and date. Outs, balls, strikes stay the same. If it doesn’t go full five, it’s cancelled/postponed. Nothing (stats, score) counts.
Take it with a grain of salt, but no one corrected me.
mark- Last year there was a game in Baltimore
Yanks took the lead in the 7th, the bottom of the inning, wasn’t played. the game resumed in the bottom of the 7th.
That is different than a visiting team being ahead after 5. If the Yankees didn’t take the lead in the top of the 7th, than the O’s would have won the game.
Joe Buck: blah blah blah amphetamines.
Tim McCarver: :::::::crickets::::::
Come on Andy – finish the inning now
Its 4.5 if the home team is winning. If the home team is losing, its 5.
If a game is called, it is a regulation game:
(1) If five innings have been completed;
(2) If the home team has scored more runs in four or four and a fraction half-innings than the visiting team has scored in five completed half-innings;
(3) If the home team scores one or more runs in its half of the fifth inning to tie the score.
(d) If a regulation game is called with the score tied, it shall become a suspended game.
specious
Plus, Buck & McCarver are paid $$$$$ for thier broadcasting “abilities”…while proving their more clueless than the average Yankees Blog participant.
please andy
Looking at the radar though the storm is flying along – so even if they stop, they’ll likely restart pretty quickly.
Nick – I remember years ago when Mc Carver was working the Mets I thought he was destined for network color. But he has really gone off his game, too mcuh unsubstantiated opinion. But to be a bit fair, it’s a lot to ask for these guys, who have to cover every team, to be attuned to the details . Contrarily, it’s not like Joba isn’t a big story, and they should have some researchers to help.
Oh wait, it’s Fox we’re talking here – I forgot.
Andy. Let’s go. Strikes. Throw them.
Pettitte pitching to Easley like he’s Albert Pujols. Just awful.
yeah, how much greenies did McCarver do in the 60s and 70s.
Fox news anchors wear the skimpiest outfits and have the longest legs.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G1qAnx-_LmY
Man! I love the news!
REYES…I LOVE U, MAN!!!
Now the game is official.
WHOOO-HOO! Go Andy! That was CLUTCH!
Thanks for that information.
I swear I have tears in my eyes on that play by Andy!
8 Pickoffs this year…ANDY!! Way to go!
Kevin
Josay Josay Josay jo say…. Ho say… Ho say Ho say Ho say Ho say
Ho say Ho say Ho say Ho say. Ho say……
jeez
come on Andy-don’t make my BP go up like it did yesterday with Sidney
What a great time for Pettitte to unveil his secret pitch to second base.
So I would say this game is official right here and now.
COME ON RAIN!!!!!
Nice Andy, Nice…Reyes is my new favorite Met.
WooHoo. Better than a regular out.
Andy!!! i love the wackness of jose reyes, never will be a winner- hotdog through and through. what a waste of talent.
Reyes is simply a dumb player with a tremendous amount of talent
jose reyes
the guy is a clown and a detriment to that team
Oh Yay!
Damn you gameday for being delayed!
What do I always say?
It’s not a Pettitte start without a pick off.
Great call by Jorge, he say him going and instantly jumped up and ripped his mask off and alerted Andy!
Clay, after all of these years, there’s still no replacement for Mary Hart’s legs.
The Yanks can win this whole thing.
Trade for CC and get the ace we have needed for the past 4 years.
Could that be a web gem nominee or are they always on balls in play?
The Mets should trade Reyes.
I hope Shea Boooooes Reyes, but good.
Work Santana here boys
“How come evrybody has to bash McCarver and Buck every time they call a game? It is so old already. Some people believe he should have stayed in the bullpen. Calm down…”
It should not be questioned as we have seen. Just go away.
I’d still like a few more runs here.
Clay – that was fabulous!
Fox News – fair and balanced, and you get a boner as a bonus! Apologies ladies – but their approach has got to piss you off, no?
Santana is terrible. Hughes will be better than him in August and the next 7 years.
“The Yanks can win this whole thing.”
As much as I believe that this is a transition year, I agree with you. We really COULD win it all this year.
“Trade for CC and get the ace we have needed for the past 4 years.”
Yes. That will help the team hit with runners in scoring position…Which is, you know…their biggest problem. And has been for years.
Oliver Perez vs. Ras (o/u 15)…
Make him work MVP…make him work.
We need more runs here!
Hope Pettitte can go at least 7…pitch count looks good…
Let’s Go Yanks!
Loving the Arod AB. Get that pitch count up!
“Rangers placed LHP Kason Gabbard on the 15-day disabled list with left elbow inflammation.
The Dallas Morning News guesses Luis Mendoza (righty) will be inserted into the starting rotation.”
Why is this important? Gabbard (lefty) was scheduled to go against Ponson and the Yanks on Wednesday…
and I have tickets 5 rows behind the yanks dugout… let the Yankee hit parade begin!!
Could Sid go 2-0 for the Yanks??
I can’t wait to see this JABA guy pitch.
McCarver was brought in to do part-time duty on the SF Giants broadcasts one season, maybe the second year of AT&T Park (then Pacific Bell Park) and he was interviewed on the local sports talk radio station, also the Giants station.
He made some comment about how “everyone knows Pac Bell is a hitters park” and blathered on for a while. As soon as the interview was over, the host started getting all these irate calls about how clueless McCarver was. Funny stuff.
On the other hand, the New Yorker loves him.
big ab for a rod. made johan throw many pitches
Clay-
Green Beret7-
try this Fox Shot. replay it a couple of times to get the full, eh..effect.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PNK6UTgZ7E&feature=related
““Trade for CC and get the ace we have needed for the past 4 years.â€
you realize it would be a 3 month rental? CC is testing the free agent waters.
Only thing this game is misiing is that Santana hasn’t thrown his best pitch, yet…the ol’ gopher ball.
I wish someone would gag Rosenthal too. He’s a little too chirpy for me.
2 pitches in the exact same spot…one ball,,,one strike…bring on the computers…these umps stink….
***missing***
“Yes. That will help the team hit with runners in scoring position…Which is, you know…their biggest problem. And has been for years.”
Hey, moron. The fact that they have been running out pitchers like Wright, Randy Johnsons corpse, Pavano, Rasner, Karstens, Small, Giese, etc is why they haven’t won a title.
Not because A-Rod hasn’t got a huge hits. Pitching wins titles. This team leads the league in runs every year. It is a little tougher in Oct facing the best of the best every night.
Whozat – a possible contrary argument is that the Yanks led baseball in scoring last year, so if you put a zillion runners on, eventually you’ll score runs. And if you hit enough HR’s, that also mitigates RISP performance. Still seems to me a big arm could help, and how do you trade for better RISP hitting?
When CC tests the waters, he’ll make a big splash.
Because… well, you know.
I’m REALLY liking this game.
“Only thing this game is misiing is that Santana hasn’t thrown his best pitch, yet…the ol’ gopher ball.”
From your lips to the Giambarino’s Ears…BALK
“you realize it would be a 3 month rental? CC is testing the free agent waters.”
So what?
Take the 2 high draft picks if he leaves. They way we draft who wouldn’t want two top 40 picks?
McCarver hates the Yankees.
hopefully santana will tear a hammy in this rain
santana seems flustered, actually.
Methinks Santana is losing his composure a little.
Cy Santana a little shaky…sweet
“How come evrybody has to bash McCarver and Buck every time they call a game? It is so old already. Some people believe he should have stayed in the bullpen. Calm down…â€
It should not be questioned as we have seen. Just go away.
Agreed. To stop bashing McCarver and Buck would require (1)either some other annoucers for Yankee games, (2)Fox to lose the rights to broadcast games, (3) McCarver swallowing the microphone, (4)Buck beating McCarver with the microphone thus requiring a replacement, (5) both Buck and McCarver swallowing the microphone is a pact to stop ruining baseball.
All other options to remove them are on the table, unless they include Suzyn Waldman, then it is time to go back to silent broadcasts.
“So what?
Take the 2 high draft picks if he leaves. They way we draft who wouldn’t want two top 40 picks?”
Fine, if the Indians want to give him up for beans. I imagine they are going to want the kind of talent that fans are not going to be pleased about giving up for a 3 month rental. But if they can get him for virtually nothing, absolutely. I just don’t see that.
Wow it’s pouring like crazy in Manhattan right now.
come on Jorge!
Same old song with the Mets.
Carlos Santana and Jose Feliciano = not not not!
Scottzo,
I have no problem with them getting CC… just saying. They need to keep in mind that they may not be able to sign him long term.
Rain actually stinks with Pettitte @ 74 and Santana @ 110…
Make ‘em pay, Canoe.
i love it how people bash buck and mccarver but love listening to waldman and sterling who actually cause ear cancer if you listen for more than 10 consecutive minutes…
so much for MLB speeding up the game. The Mets have a pow-wow every inning.
IMHO, the right deal for Sabathia includes either low ceiling prospects who can be replaced by draft picks if he walks, or something more painful with a window for a contract extension.
205 with RISp for big cano, get a hit please.
They should walk Robby and pitch to Melky.
Then Melky might break out of his slump and get a granny!
I know I’m dreaming.
Look he took two pitches!!!!
What’s up with all these Fox News anchor babe clips?
Someone sent me a video yesterday to an indie song, the video is positively filthy yet not at all graphic. I would post a link, but it’s probably better that I don’t. Groovy song, too.
Robbie, it’s almost July…time to start HAMMERING
Robbie Cano! Whatdya know! 3-1 Yanks.
Kevin
This is a game of beauty.
Told them they should have pitched to Melky.
huge AB for cano there
Waldman and Sterling get bashed equally.
Stormrider,
you mean low-level prospects? the Indians arent giving him up for future mop up relievers. but i agree that they shouldn’t give up a ton without a signing window.
however, it will only take one team to give in and give away a high end prospect to outbid the yanks. further, shapiro and the indians arent going to give a tie to the yankees. the yanks would need to outbid any NL team.
Boston more like a pow wow after every pitch.
thank you for walking posada to get to our hottest hitter
Great hit by Robbie.
Cano’s bat here…. The reverse curse continues. Another hit by Cano
Nice Robbie
melky dear-sigh
yanks will be fine as long as they dont put in that reliver who looks like he should a swarm of flies buzzing around his face
who knew Milhouse from “The Simpsons” was the mets pitching coach.
in all seriousness, the only good thing about mets-yanks is that we can listen to the WFAN broadcast
“i love it how people bash buck and mccarver but love listening to waldman and sterling”
Who exactly loves listening to Waldman and Sterling?
They make my ears bleed, so I’m off the list
again Santana is real good he has a 3.01 ERA but the Yanks could not afford him financially and talent wise….
If they sign Sabathia it costs them picks and they are losing tons of money off the books. If santana was on the block this coming off season that is another story..
I’ll be honest…i cant remember the last time I saw Melky get a meaningful hit. What’s up with him? He made a good defensive play earlier, but he’s turning into a hole in the lineup (If he wasnt one already). He’s hurting his trade value.
Now Andy won’t pitch??
This hurts the Yanks. Santana was done anyway. If this is a long delay we loose Andy who probably could go 2 more innings.
There’s going to be a lot of very unhappy pitchers in the AL for the rest of the year, because Cano is getting it cranked up.
Melky won’t be the Yanks CF by the mid summer.
Gardner will be.
Boston Dave,
Low level meaning but not guys with astronomical projections (no Tabata, no A-Jax, etc). I doubt the Indians would take that deal, especially with other teams in the bidding war. The Yankees would definitely have to give more for a signing window, but will they bite on a big deal for a pitcher?
Back to Chicago we go… Go Cubbies!
They timed the delay well—perfect moment to get some dinner.
ugh
santana was done anyway.
pettitte had 2 innings left in him.
another break against the yanks.
jon if he’s hurting his trade value that makes me even happier since I don’t want him traded anyway.
Hopefully the delay won’t be for too long. Fingers crossed
The FAN radio team is worse than Sterling and Waldman.
I use Wayne Hagin to put my kids to sleep.
now we’re forced to get 4 innings out of our “bullpen”, if you could even call it that
Cano continues to work his way back. Very, very, very good to see. If Cano gets back into it, the lineup takes on a vastly different personality. Meanwhile, Melky continues to prove he is nothing but a fourth OF at best. Not so good to see.
Everyone be careful during the rain delay; it might be watching you:
http://www.sewerhorse.com/
No trade Cano stuff here today???
I’m shocked.
Any word on how long the delay will be? Are we talking hours?
c’mon Nick.
post the link.
it’s a rain delay and we need a laugh, especially if it’s a Fixed News’ expense.
David Robertson, come on down! You’re the next contestant on “The Bullpen is Right!”
Fox News is #1 for a reason. Because they actually give a conservative viewpoint. You know there is a reason why the MSM has been losing viewers for years.
Stormrider,
I agree with you, except on Tabata. Either way, the Indians will get better offers than that.
As long as the Sox don’t get him, I’m more than happy to let CC go somewhere else.
Then the Yanks can sign him for no prospects (losing just their 1st rounder).
Mark, the likelihood is that Brett Gardner, while not giving the same power numbers, is more of a varied threat than Cabrera and we dont lose much in defense. Frankly, I need to start seeing something from Cabrera offensively. I think there was a stat from 2 nights ago that he’s been hitting at about .230 for a about a month or so…and he doesnt have the upside of a Cano, who we can wait on to get through a slump.
More bullpen auditions and tryouts.
Always fun in late June in a pennant race.
Fox News breaking news report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PNK6UTgZ7E&feature=related
Can Robertson go 2 innings?
anyone feeling a 6-out save from MO?
I love how people who are in no position to know or do anything about the Melky/Gardner thing, are so certain they know what is going to happen.
Okay, so because it’s mid-inning it would be suspended if it didn’t resume today?
Remember the Oriole game last year? Here’s a recap with an explanation of the new rule:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/29/AR2007062900040.html
Yes I think Robertson was going 2-3 innings.
“is more of a varied threat than Cabrera”
What does that even mean? He’s faster. He’s walked a lot in the minors, which is good…but he also swings and misses a lot. Since big league pitchers KNOW he can’t hurt them much with his bat, they’re going to come right at him and his walks will drop. Who cares how fast he is if he can’t get on base? And there are reasons to think his AAA OBP will not translate to the bigs. So…
Mel- I think the score reverts back to the previous inning, so the Yankees would win 2-1.
I think it is only suspended when the visiting team takes the lead in the top of the inning that is suspended.
“Mark, the likelihood is that Brett Gardner, while not giving the same power numbers, is more of a varied threat than Cabrera and we dont lose much in defense.”
what makes you think Gardner can hit big league pitching?
If Melky was in AAA he’d probably be hitting much better than Gardner is.
I agree Melky needs to step it up but the idea that Gardner can be the Yanks everyday CF right now isn’t likely.
If Gardner starts tearing it up in AAA, sure. But right now, he’s a decent/good AAA hitter… not great.
You guys are overlooking the fact that in the Baltimore game, the Yankees took the lead in the top half. That’s why it’s suspended. Home team has to get last ups in an official game. This game if postponed would revert back to the score through 5 since the inning was not completed, in which the Yankees would win 2-1.
And continuing with Melky Cabrera seems to be the answer as is? The question becomes how long do you go with a guy who literally can’t hit and decide NOT to try something else?
Bugsy, the link I’m talking about has nothing to do with Fox News, nor is it funny. It’s a video for an indie music song, over 6 minutes long, and it just shows a girl… well, she seems to be enjoying herself a lot but it’s not completely clear/shown what exactly she’s doing.
Even though it’s not pornographic per se, I think it’s the kind of link that Pete would not appreciate being posted to his blog.
But if you want to track it down yourself, the name of the band is Brightblack Morning Light and the name of the song is Everybody Daylight. Search for those on youtube and you’ll find it.
“Okay, so because it’s mid-inning it would be suspended if it didn’t resume today?”
I still think it depends on who had the lead and when. And I’m not sure if they mean completed _half_ inning or not.
Like…if the top of the 6th had never happened, the Yanks would still have been winning, so…if the game is called I figure they win.
Did you guys see Thornton pitching the 7th for the White Sox? Nasty lefty…just nasty stuff…
We used to have a guy with nasty stuff in our bullpen too, but he’s starting now and doing a darn good job too…
It’s just too bad we can’t find someone to replace him…
Oh well, those 7th and 8th innings are overated anyway-it’s not like someone has to pitch them every day…
Dynasty, come in from the rain, you’ll think better!
From the link:
The game fell under a new rule enacted this offseason, which states that if weather halts a game mid-inning it becomes suspended and resumes from that point. If the game was official (with five innings in the books) and was called after a completed inning, it would have been over.
Had the game unfolded last season, the Orioles would have won. Under the old rule, the game is taken back to the last completed inning, and the result stands.
My God, I’m so freaking sick of rain delays this year.
What is this, like the 15th or so?
dynasty is destiny yeah starting igawa in his place would really help out..
yeah having Joba pitch in the 8th of a 11 -2 deficit is key..
dynasty is destiny the world is round not flat wake up……
this rain delay kills the yanks because pettite only threw 74 pitches and santana is done anyway..bad break…
Nick,
Funny you mention the rain-it’ll be because of the rain that Pettitte won’t get to continue and we’ll have to go to our bullpen…
That should be fun…
Who ever said the 7th and 8th innings are overrated?
The Fox News women look so uncomfortable wearing those skirts. They should go with a professional pants suit.
Speaking of nice legs. A friend of mine ran into Kim Jones at a beach (I think it was last July). He took a picture of her. She looked pretty nice in a bikini.
Man, Linebrink would be just awful for the Yanks pen. Good thing they didn’t sign him and signed Hawkins instead.
stuart,
Yeah, the world is round? Can you send me a link to prove it?
Yes, Dynasty, so take your frustrations out on Mother Nature and leave poor Joba alone!
Yeah, because they should have kept him in the pen, for rain out contingencies.
How many years did Chicago sign Linebrink for?
We gave a multi-year deal to Krazy Kyle, but we couldnt give one to Linebrink?
…and then we go out and sign LaToya for 3.5 mill. granted its only one year…but still.
I agree…there needs to be some 7th/8th inning fixing…A LOT of fixing…but it wont matter if you cant get the ball to them. That’s why JOBA is in the right place right now.
God is a Yankee fan, but whoever controls the weather up there HATES us.
5) Weather, if a regulation game is called while an inning is in progress and before the inning is completed, and the visiting team has scored one or more runs to take the lead, and the home team has not retaken the lead; or
I am about 5 miles from the stadium – it is pouring and thundering and lighning and it’s pitch black out
Linebrink would have cost money and we are the NYY and we don’t spend much money.
Even though we got a starter in AAA making 5 mill.
We can’t have a well paid reliever who actually gets people out. That would have been a terrible backup plan for the Joba to the rotation move.
(4) Any suspended game not completed prior to the last scheduled game between the two teams during the championship season shall become a called game. If such game becomes a called game and
(i) has progressed far enough to become a regulation game, and one team is ahead, the team that is ahead shall be declared the winner;
Linebrink got a bog big deal for many yrs.. he is great when nothing is on the line..
obviously he is much better then Kyle but he still is a choker…..
A friend of mine ran into Kim Jones at a beach (I think it was last July). He took a picture of her. She looked pretty nice in a bikini
I bet she did. Kim has a smokin body.
Joba as a starter makes perfect sense right now…We have no Wang, no Kennedy, no Hughes…
And Joba has been terrific as a starter so far-who can make a reasonable argument that we don’t need him in the starting rotation right now?
But aren’t you guys a little surprised that there wasn’t any contingency plan for his absence in the ‘pen?
Did Yankee mgmt really think the bullpen as it stands now could do the job?
Really?
The yankees already had the lead.. if the game is called we win..
i dont understand what all this debate is for.
Linebrink may be good when nothing is on the line, and a choker otherwise…
but LaToya stinks even when nothing is on the line.
damn!
“The Fox News women look so uncomfortable wearing those skirts. They should go with a professional pants suit.”
I don’t think the middle-aged white guys who frequent Fox News would agree with your pants suit recommendation.
Linebrink snagged 4 years/19 mil.
He turns 32 this year; if Towers didn’t bother resigning him, that’s not a good sign for the whole contract.
I love how people hate on Scott Linebrink. He may not be worth that big contract, but he’s a ton better than anything we have in our pen other than Mo.
Regarding CC-
I think we stay in trade discussions to help insure he doesn’t go to BOS or TB…then go after him in FA.
Let the CHC or MIL rent him for 3 months…
Gotta love FOX. Watching the Cubs/Sox game and the announcers were just about to launch into a story about what a great guy Ron Santo is when the producers interrupt with an All-Star Game graphic/ad. FOX Sports. A tradition of tastelessness.
Amen to that Mulligan!
Keep him away from the AL East for the rest of the year.
Dynasty, you’re very close, but you have to admit (to yourself, even if you don’t want to say it here) that Joba in the rotation makes perfect sense regardless of the Wang/Hughes/Kennedy injuries. Then you will achieve nirvana.
As for the ‘no contingency plan’ theory, how do you know? It’s still June.
If we stay in the CC discussions, our only role should be to push up the cost for any other team that gets him. Make them give away the farm…
Additionally, just read a hysterical quote about Ponson pitching against Texas (his most recent former team) on Wednesday. Specifically of interest, will be the at-bat of Milton Bradley, who after Ponson was cut by Texas said “Man, that dude has problems.” Milton Bradley is obviously the perfect picture of calm and the definition of sane.
Speaking of the Fox News women, here’s a funny one.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=oW0vhNRMFVQ&feature=rec-fresh
If matsui needs surgery, we should sign bonds.. i dont care if hes an ahole, every already hates the yankees anyway.
The pen really needs to get sorted out and quick. We need to get rid of the dead weight. That means you LaTroy.
You shouldn’t have taken #21.
No one knows how Brett Gardner is going to do, until he gets his shot. NO. ONE.
Anyone can make all the projections they want, whether you think he’s going to be an on-base machine, or not able to hit major league pitching. We’re all just talking out our… well, you know, right now.
The kid has a .410 .OBP in AAA, and despite his being left-handed – his numbers are great against left handers.
He could come up here and fall on his butt. But again, no one knows that.
“But aren’t you guys a little surprised that there wasn’t any contingency plan for his absence in the ‘pen?”
No contingency? SO they’re elevating relieves through the farm system, for absolutely no reason but their amusement?
I don’t think the middle-aged white guys who frequent Fox News would agree with your pants suit recommendation.
exactly. as you’ll see in the link, Fox is sponsored by Viagra for good reason.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zsz2JqJLrDY&feature=related
“He turns 32 this year; if Towers didn’t bother resigning him, that’s not a good sign for the whole contract.”
Considering that the Pods traded him to Mil and SD never resigns anyone, I don’t think that should be a red flag.
Bobby Jenks looks like he’s pregnant
“Did Yankee mgmt really think the bullpen as it stands now could do the job?
Really?”
Rivera – ridiculous; even better than expected
Farnsworth – has been ok
Bruney – good til hurt
Ohlendorf – disappointing
Veras – pretty good
Edwar – not bad
albaladejo – alright til hurt
britton – ok then hurt
hawkins – ouch
I mean, what did you expect? The Yanks bullpen has not been costing them as many games as poor starting pitching or their hitting with RISP has. How many teams have quality bullpens all the way through?
p.s. Yanks management also knew they had a bunch of arms in the minors and that some of them (not all) would fill a spot or two
RConn…I am suspecting that you believe he’s worth a shot, at least….and that’s all I was talking about above. He’s worth a shot and frankly, with Matsui on the DL, and possibly gone for a little while longer due to surgery, a shot is what Gardner should get to see what he can do. If anything, it would most likely not be a huge decrease from Melky’s current production.
Smart dealing by Towers to trade him before expiration then
No way Bonds will be in the majors this season on any team; the powers that be hate him
“He turns 32 this year; if Towers didn’t bother resigning him, that’s not a good sign for the whole contract.”
Age 32 isn’t old for a reliever. And he’s been great for the White Sox this year.
“But aren’t you guys a little surprised that there wasn’t any contingency plan for his absence in the ‘pen?
Did Yankee mgmt really think the bullpen as it stands now could do the job?”
Do you really think that there have not been and will be no further changes to the bullpen? I have a feeling the Yankees do have some sort of plan.
Angel,
With all due respect, calling up “farm system” relievers does not sound like a contingency plan to me…
Relievers that have proven themselves on the Major League Level-now that would have been a plan!
“If matsui needs surgery, we should sign bonds.. i dont care if hes an ahole, every already hates the yankees anyway.”
This would possibly be the only move that could ever make me question my 20+ year allegiance to the NYY..
How long until they call this game?
the goal is to win games, not worry about egos
Man if we can get Bruney back…that would be real nice.
“No one knows how Brett Gardner is going to do, until he gets his shot. NO. ONE.”
ok, lets call up Matt Carson and Miranda too. NO. ONE. knows how they will do either.
Well thats your perception. Being that you were not privy to the discussions that went around transitioning Joba to the rotation, you can’t possibly know that they didn’t have a contingency plan. Just because its not a plan you’re happy with, doesn’t mean they didnt have one.
give Eric Duncan a shot at first while we’re at it.
restart is at 7:10 according to Pete
“Age 32 isn’t old for a reliever. And he’s been great for the White Sox this year.”
Great for year 1; perfectly fine. It’s expected.
Year 2? Maybe, maybe not. Probably still good.
Years 3 and 4 are what’s the question about. Relievers tend to not last very long, unless they’re great closers.
“Bobby Jenks looks like he’s pregnant”
Jenks, Colon, and Sir Sid don’t due much for the MLB pitchers are world class athletes argument.
Vrsce: game is back on at 7:10
“Angel,
With all due respect, calling up “farm system†relievers does not sound like a contingency plan to me…
With all due-respect, the best bullpens over the past several seasons have been built with young arms from within. Big free agent signing relievers have failed at an alarmingly high rate. It’s not an exact science by any means. It’s extremely difficult, but Cashman has taken the right approach… NOT overpaying for longterm deals for aging relievers.
The question I have is, how many games since Joba has gone to the rotation has the bullpen performed badly, that weren’t games that they were already losing badly because of bad starting pitching in the first place?
Thanks Leo
I still dont understand why this Joba thing is up for debate? The fact is that if he didnt get his “innings” this year, due to being in the bullpen, it would mean that he’d still be at a low innings limit next year, etc….that means, turning him into a full-fledged started would not happen until 2010 at the earliest. Frankly, whatever “plan” the Yankees had/have or didnt have, Joba as a starter is where he needs to be, bullpen be damned.
Programming note: Tomorrow’s game on TBS.
I really liked Justin Speier. The Angels signed him to a big 4 year deal and we was really good last year. Now he has an ERA over 5.
It’s easy to point to a reliever having a good year and say “we should have signed him”. What’s not easy is saying which guys will succeed for the length of their contract, and which will not.
Game time restart is two minutes
Last very long at a high level, I mean.
Last in the league in terms of having a job, well, that’s easier.
Amen, Angel. Not liking the plan doesn’t mean that there wasn’t one.
And if the argument is that Joba should have remained in the pen unless there was someone as good as Joba to replace him there… please.
“The Mets and Yankees could cure droughts around the world by traveling around and playing games. It rains every time they have a series.”
Somebody needs to tell Joba to stop doing that rain dance in the dugout.
Boston Dave,
But couldn’t we have atleast seen what some of those “arms from within” could do before we drastically weakened our bullpen?
“the goal is to win games, not worry about egos”
Bonds is a World Class A-hole who knowingly CHEATED to break the most hallowed record in MLB…plus, isn’t he still under indictment for 15 FELONIES?
Pettitte has warmed up and is coming out for the 6th inning.
“Frankly, whatever “plan†the Yankees had/have or didnt have, Joba as a starter is where he needs to be, bullpen be damned.”
How can we win without a bullpen?
Bostan Dave do not use logic and support your arguements intelligiently..
Don’t do it.. the league is littered with bad relief pitching contracts.
relief pitchers are the biggest gambles in baseball they have the most varience in performance..
Andy back out..alrighty
no score in Jupiter – IPK starting the 5th inning right now, looks good/not great though. Right now he’s at 4.1 2 hits no runs, got here in the 2nd so I’m not sure about BB/K
Yes!!!!
Pettitte is back out there!
GO YANKS!
The Vet coming back for the 6th…sweet
“ok, lets call up Matt Carson and Miranda too. NO. ONE. knows how they will do either.”
Ahh, sarcasm.
Look, Gardner has put up numbers to deserve a call up. Just don’t see how anyone can deny this. Melky is not a good offensive player. He just isn’t. How is this up for debate?
Jose Veras will be one of the pitchers leading up to Mo but insurnace runs are needed.
ironic you should bring up felonies, mr. sir sidney ponson fan.
is DUI a misdemeanor, or a felony? hmm….
“Programming note: Tomorrow’s game on TBS.”
Not in NY. In NY it’s YES or CW11. TBS is blacked out in NY.
And the irony is Ron Darling is doing the game for TBS. He’s a Met announcer and won’t be seen in NY.
Nice to see Andy back out there. I hope we see Robertson today.
Kevin
Dynasy, just be at peace with yourself. Admit the truth to yourself. Then you will be happy.
Dynasty…
How can you win if you dont have a starter that gets them the ball with a lead?
Wow, they put Andy back in? Wasn’t expecting that.
How can we win without kick butt starting pitching?
The bullpen will go through it’s ups and downs. Let’s just hope this offense can back it up when those “down moments” occur.
Let’s go Andy
Like I said.
Glad we got that insurance run.
Well that wasn’t good
3-2 game now
So glad Reyes got picked off, too.
“Dynasty…
How can you win if you dont have a starter that gets them the ball with a lead?”
How can you win if you don’t have a bullpen that can maintain a lead?
This is like going in circles-sigh
Tried going in again on Wright after the foul off his foot…gotta get that ball really down, and deep inside…should have been damn near on the ground.
Dynasty, have you learned nothing lo these many months?
“ironic you should bring up felonies, mr. sir sidney ponson fan.
is DUI a misdemeanor, or a felony? hmm….”
Not sure about Sir Sid’s actual arrest record…but a DUI
Dynasty, S.A., Jon… Endless Loop: See loop, endless.
It’s a lot easier to find a reliever with 1-2 good pitches than find a guy with 4-solid pitches and a #1 starter attitude.
Okay, I can live with this. Another insurance run would be spectacular, though.
Pettitte guts out the 6th…Giambi makes a play…maybe it is our day.
I can’t believe that Pettitte came back after the long delay. It is AMAZING how many times the Yanks miss there spots on pitches to Wright. What part about pitching him inside do they not understand? Everytime he has gotten a hit in this series the pitches have been right down and on the outside part of the plate..The only part of the plate he can hit. You would think he is a hall of famer with the Yanks missing so much and giving him meatballs.
All right, do you pinch-hit for Pettitte? He leads off.
We need some insurance runs.
The Stache is looking more and more like The Don every minute. Nice pick there . . .
I am really disliking David Wright.
we def need more insurance runs
TO Pinch-Hit or Not to Pinch-Hit, this is the question.
somebody needs to held accountable for that “my sharona” mohegan sun commercial. absolutely inexcusable. even worse…the guys who had to sing and act in that
some people spend a lot of time complaining when they call up the guys from the minors. but a ton of players that are in the big leagues came from the minors. everybody’s gotta have a debut sometime before they become a fixture. just seems like some NYY fans don’t want the “tryouts” or “testing” to be in the bronx.
Pinch hitter?
“It’s a lot easier to find a reliever with 1-2 good pitches than find a guy with 4-solid pitches and a #1 starter attitude.”
It’s supposedly so much easier as you say, and yet we never seem to be able to find that reliever…
Why is that, I wonder?
The need a new Giambi gameday photo of him with the ’stache.
I don’t even recognize him without it anymore
Fran,
He’s their Jeter. Steps up against certain teams.
IPK finished in Jupiter – 5 innings, no runs, 2 hits
The MLB (and the Feds…) hate Bonds (for the record breaking and the lying), simple as that. That’s why he won’t be signed.
Cause hell, Scott Spiezio still got a job again. And he only plead guilty to a DUI and hit-and-run…oh, and got charged with aggravated assault and assault ‘n’ battery, but those got dismissed.
Betemit is really a terrible hitter from the right-side. This is one of those occasions, I miss Shelly. Albeit, the 2007 incarnation.
(moral of the day: lying is worse than driving under the influence, or fleeing after hitting someone with your car!)
betemit has to be replaced with someone better
ill say it again: damon is back in his funk
Wow, Johnny is not having a good day, is he?
6 outs before Mo?
With this pen?
IS Jupiter a Single-A or GCL start?
jon, you are absolutely right about that Mohegan Sun commercial, I’ve commented about it a few times here. It’s an absolute atrocity. It’s worse than Dynasty’s Joba nonsense, it’s worse than ER’s trolling, it’s worse than Guieseppe Franco’s Procede commercials, it’s worse than famine… wow, it’s bad.
Veras in the 7th…lets take “bets”…what does he do?
Dynasty makes great points.
Why not have both?
Why not have great starters and great relievers??
Joba is a starter. Everyone knows it. But why didn’t they find someone to pitch the 8th knowing he was going to the rotation?
3 runs will not be enough to win this one
…Was that kid really drinking that water?
Veras to Farnsworth to MO?
Thoughts, Bueller, anyone?
“jon, you are absolutely right about that Mohegan Sun commercial, I’ve commented about it a few times here. It’s an absolute atrocity. It’s worse than Dynasty’s Joba nonsense, it’s worse than ER’s trolling, it’s worse than Guieseppe Franco’s Procede commercials, it’s worse than famine… wow, it’s bad.”
Add in worse than your many lame quips, Nick. Comedy isn’t your forte.
I’m wondering if Veras/Farnsy will do it quick or drag it out to put my stomach in knots tonight with this 1 run lead….
back to back to back homeruns against veras
We need more than 3 runs with Farnsworth pitching.
Rebecca,
This is for you…
http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/New-York/photo/080627/ids_photos_sp/r479337872.jpg/
I had the same thought Rebecca. Where is that kid’s parent? You’d think if he had enough money to sit in the first row, he’d have enough to pay someone to watch him as well. He was drinking tarpaulin water.
man,we have two more innings before Mo.
crap – stifled by bullpen arm… sheesh
My heart is pounding and I’m pacing again.
Everyone’s a critic, SLH.
“Add in worse than your many lame quips, Nick. Comedy isn’t your forte.”
Says someone called “Steve Levy’s Hair”
andy phillips looks like a gangster in his mets cap
I hope we don’t see Farsnworth – he pitched yesterday and I’m almost out of beer. I miss 255-KEGS.
Remember the good old days when the Yankee offense would get busy when they saw Farnsworth warming up?
Shelley it seemed was a little too cocky when he came into the league, and now the game has humbled him. Sooner or later, either Betemit or Shelley will seperate themsef from the other. I give it a year max before it happens or one is waived/traded.
that kid definitely drank that water.
mel: We took the other Lopez, but I appreciate the thought!
come on Veras. 1 more
Tarp water, city water… 6 of one, half dozen of the other.
No walks, PLEASE
Rebecca,
That’s not why I sent it. Worse than Colon!
oh boy
Veras through the 7th inning. 3 outs to Mo.
(Hope the Yanks can score a few more this inning for insurance.)
Yessss! Veras gets it done!!!!
GO YANKS!
Let me guess Yanks don’t get an insurance run and Farns does his best to F’ this game up.
Veras did his job. Come on offense – get 2 or 8 for a cushion for Farnsy.
mel: ! Point!
Great inning from Jose. So if we score, say, two, three here, do we get to see Robertson?
Bring back Veras? Anyone?
6 more outs. I’d give my left mac nut to win this game.
I’ll take that inning from Veras…although, the hitters didnt necessarily frighten me. Who goes out in the 8th? Not Farnsworth…right?
Who pitches the 8th?
my money is on the mop to screw it up
Its all fun and games until somebody loses a nut.
Zach,
Yes. Bring back Veras and go to Mo if he gets in trouble.
more cowbell!
Good job by Veras!
Now please, for the love of Bronson Arroyo, get like 5 more runs.
You know who may be a comin in the 8th!
farnsworthy
June 28th, 2008 at 7:26 pm
back to back to back homeruns against veras
————-
good predicition. how do you spend the millions you win in all those lotteries?
You won’t see Robertson unless the Yanks score about 6 runs. This is not the time to experiment with the kids.
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
oh boy…thats farnsworth warming. hahahaha….get ready.
Farnsworth sighting…
“Who pitches the 8th?”
The one, the only…
Kyle Farnsworth
I’m for bringing Veras in the 8th and maybe having Mo on stand-bye just in case
Odds that Farnsworth has a 1-2-3 inning…nil
i pitched a 2 hittew!! yaaaayyyy!!1 n i stwuck out 4 in 5 innings. i’m a stwikeout mastew like k igawa! LOOOLZ!!1
Well there goes that plan.
**gulp**
Amazing I remember reading the Yanks signed Veras a couple winters ago after he was waived and he was quoted as saying the Yanks are going to give him the opportunity to setup for and mentor under Rivera whom he idolized. What’s amazing is he has practically reached that point after a couple years in the organization and you can see him trying to model Rivera mentally out there. Maybe quite the story eventually . . .
Who will homer next,
Wright,
Beltran,
or Delgado?
You have to love that Mo is already stretching…they know if one runner gets on…its Mo’s time.
ian kennedy – high five, man! you’re one foot out of the crib.
How many times has Manuel gone out there today for something?
ER,
Hopefully Giambi?
Arun: Veras is quickly turning into one of the only reliable arms in the pen outside of Mo and once in a while Farnsy.
Melky would have slid under that tag, leaving no doubt.
farnsworth will pitch a perfect 8th, with 3 KS! GOOOOOOO!
Is everyone sour on IPK? I mean…the dude is 23? I question his mentality more than his talent. I dont think he can handle New York…as he already stated earlier this year when he was optioned to Scranton saying “At least I wont be scrutinized on every pitch…”. Ok..lets trade him to KC.
We need this insurance run badly!
No way that pitch fools Jorge. Double in the gap coming right up!
Hopefully Posada?
Another run here would be nice.
farnsworthy…are you kyle farnsworth in the yankees bullpen, where you should be warming up rather than on this message board? If so, then you must be drinking too during the game.
Does anyone have a Compasine I can take before Farnsworth comes out to pitch the 8th?
ian kennedy broke down in the locker room and faked an injury. he will never make it in NY.
I like when ER posts.
It means the Yanks are winning.
Heeeeere weeeeeeee goooooo….farnsworth…….should be interesting. my call…if he blows this, girardi has no legs to stand on anymore, with putting him in there (he really shouldnt have any legs already).
Any chance Veras will pitch the 8th?
Hey I still have faith in IPK, and I’d like to seem him flourish.
But given the opportunity, I’d trade him a second for Sabathia or Bedard, for that matter.
This could be interesting.
oh man. my hemorrhoids are flaring up…and i dont even have hemorrhoids!
c’mon krazy kyle!
Can Mo pitch 5 outs? He hasn’t pitched since Sunday.
Mr. Bookman talking about the Polski-pump for the Holiday Inn
“Ian Kennedy’s line from today’s game between the Single-A Tampa Yankees and Palm Beach Cardinals in Jupiter, Fla.: 5 2 0 0 1 4. 74 pitches/47 strikes.”
No one dominates minor leaguers quite like IPK. Maybe Igawa a close 2nd.
who would you rather see pitch the 8th…farnsworth or the untested rookie robertson?
No, farnsworth is the set up man and SHOULD pitch in the 8th.
oh no. they are playing that “intense” chicago bulls music.
not a good sign.
I really wish Giambi or Posada had gotten a hit there for an insurance run.
Oh no. Here we go! Time to pray people
Wow…Posada at first.
The thing that scares me is Farnsworth is terrible on his 2nd day pitching in a row…. plus he gets Wright (who kills us) and Beltran who can be pesky vs. the Yanks
2 more outs Farnsworth.
I need a Valium. Mel, do you have one by any chance? Kyle will send me to the emergency room yet.
Did I just hear that correctly?
Ok, Tim McCarver needs to shut up. He’s “blossomed” under Girardi? Now Buck extolling Farnsworth? These guys are utter morons.
Posada’s played first before.
I like Molina behind the plate if someone gets on base.
I am VERY nervously sipping on a Dr. Pepper right now.
He got away with a hanger there on 1-1
wheeeew!
Yeah, Farns is dominating.
Anyone else having difficulty breathing? I really think Krazy Kyle is bad for my health
Scary…
Oh Lord Farnsy…one more….one more!!
1 more out Kyle. They’re hitting them hard, but right at people.
Oh my god. Bring in MO for 4 outs. PLEASE!!!
omg – farnsy is getting it done
…he’s getting smacked, as per usual.
One more out, Kyle. You can do it!
Damon saves the day..
Kevin
Farnsworth’s been scary so far, but, 2 outs.
mccarver, why he would tape his fingers makes no sense
farnsworth has blossomed under girardi
wow, i’ve never ever heard of the no doubles defense.
thanx McCarver
my heart almost stop
Why isn’t he bringing Mo in for four outs?
TKinDC…lets not get ahead of ourselves.
Note to self: Do not suck on hard candies while Farnsworth is pitching. You will most certainly choke.
Rebecca,
But we’ve yet to see J. Brent/J.B. Cox (gotta love the name and the sinker), Robertson (who is at least at the park), and of course the supposed heir to the throne Melancon. Who knows Hughes could end up out there. I hope they trade for Damaso Marte personally.
Just one more, Farnsworth!
Let’s Go! We want to believe!
Mo for 4 please
Good. Stall and bring in MO.
Bring in MO!
what about the “no homerun” defense???
anyone have any time table on robertson, melacoln, or cox?
J-Dawg, I’m very nervously guzzling a gallon of vodka.
This is so scary.
It’s even sadder that I find this so scary
I wouldnt mind Marte either…Fuentes is probably a cheaper option in Colorado, though, I think he’s been shaky…
2-2 on Beltran…what does he do?
2 catchers on the mound at the same time is illegal and shall result in an automatic dbl
TKinDC, do you think Farnsy had to go back to Atlantis to get his webbing sewn up?
Girardi is SO stubborn sometime.
Wow….hell has frozen over…he’ll get bombed next time out
Kyle with a 1-2-3 8th!
Everyone can breathe again!!
Yessssss!!!!!!
w00t!
I’ll give my right mac nut for 3 more outs.
Sorry, Kill, no valium. But I’ll send you the can of mac nuts if Houston beats Boston today.
Thank God. Done to my last roach and last ounce.
Anyone need the paramedics?
Farnsworth!
Now this frightens me. With the improbable happening as Veras and Farnsworth held the one run lead…could this be bizzaro day and Mo gives up the lead? This current tun of events is messing with my mind!
Still trade the hick
***Down to my***
Actually Jon
He is a good pitcher.
Nice Inning. Kyle. I still might heave though my heart hasn’t been hammering like this since that Sunday night in Boston last year when MO walked the bases and then got Big Fatti to pop out to Jeter.
Nick –
lol – whatever is keeping that webbing together seems to work!
keep the tape on the fingers all season!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
holy crap..krazy came through!
That was wild, but at least it’s a zero.
They still need another reliable arm out there.
GreenBeret7- LOL!! Any way that you slice it, watching Kyle Farnsworth pitch leads to gallons and gallons of liquid being consumed, and he makes it through the 8th! Wow!!
green- not sure that is the type of thing you should advertise on a blog.
My stomach is so queasy right now I MIGHT have to guzzle Scotch to settle it.
Any chance we can squeeze an insurance run with the bottom of the order?
Trade Farnsworth right now…. Peak Value baby
Pete is right on.
The relief ace should be pitching to 2-3-4.
But managers always go by the book.
Vrcse…I’d rather Farnsworth was a good pitcher o another team.
How about Melky does something here. He hasn’t gotten a big hit in a while.
Nice job, Kyle !
But I’ve a bad feeling that Mo will blow this one
Btw, Sux and Rays are winning (will win) tonight
this should make everyone’s day better after krazy kyle….
http://www.break.com/index/drunk-angry-midget-gets-owned.html
cano just yelled: goneau!!!!
ER, that’s blashemy. Hush your mouth. I always defend free spech but that’s too much even for me to abide. Some thing are sacred. LOL.
Jennifer, they gotta catch me first. Either that, or, I’ll just say that Rebecca hijacked my SN and was talking about herself.
And in the 9th it can be Rivera time, and I would feel more comfortable with Geraldo Rivera pitching the 9th inning as opposed to Farnsworth.
so i guess we will probably be introduced to young David Robertson in tomorrow’s game. looking forward to it.
“Btw, Sux and Rays are winning (will win) tonight”
Who cares? It doesn’t matter when you win them, just that you win them. I only care how the Sox are doing when they’re playing the Yankees.
Vr…were you referring to fuentes as a good pitcher or farnsworth?
Come on JOHNNY!!!!!
GB, you are never going to let me live it down, are you?
i knew i hated damon for other reasons…hes a fan of cindy crosby
That gritty, innings-eating gamer Livan Hernandez is trailing 5-0 to the Brewers in the 3rd with men on base. But he’s still hungry.
Of course I will, Rebecca. I can’t live forever.
The real Sandman enters the game now..
Kevin
way to take a pitch capt’n
Another good move Cashman didn’t make. Carlos Beltran. Waaaaay overpaid.
Lol. Cindy Crosby.
god forbid they get an insurance run!
Okay, MO TIME. Time to save Andy’s bacon for the 54th time!
Astros cut lead in half, 4-2.
“But no one ever accused him of intellectual brilliance.”
Friend of mine’s mother is a lawyer for the MLBPA. Damon used to be active in the union, so he’d call their house sometimes. He is DUUUUUUUUUUUUMB.
I really thought Derek was going to get a hit there and drive in an insurance run
cash wanted beltran, but not for $100 mil… another brilliant move by minaya.
*rolls eyes at KS*
come on MO!
Damon is also a bigtime supporter of the Wounded Warriors program. He may be a flag-waving “rah rah” patriot, but I don’t see anything wrong with that.
“Astros cut lead in half, 4-2.”
Why bother to watch? ER already told us that game’s over. And the Rays game too, with their dominating 1-0 lead in the 2nd.
We need this one. With Rasner going tommorrow against Perez, who we never seem to hit, matchup doesn’t look good for us.
2 Mo to go!
Thats one!
1 down and 2 to go. Let’s go Mo.
If I was making $12 mil a year and benefiting from Bush’s tax cuts, hell, I’d be a republican too. (even tho I’d throw up in my mouth every day because of it).
5-4 Houston..wow. haha
Kevin
um – 5-4 Houston
carlos, did that call for time on an 0-2 count really do anything to forego what we all knew was going to happen???
did it? really?
Carlos yer just wasting our time, take the K like a man.
Yeah, I got that sense about Johnny. Although he sounds slower than he actually is because he suffers from a slight stammer. Evidently, he stuttered as a child.
But hey, not every baseball player can have Reggie’s IQ.
1 more to go.
Just 1 Mo!
1 more mo
Houston has gone ahead 5-4. One more to go MO!
“Perez, who we never seem to hit”
He has been totally unable to throw strikes lately. I reaaaally hope they don’t go out there and help him out all day.
Yessssssssss!
“Mrs. Nixon is finished.” — Nixon, by Oliver Stone
Whozat…that would be the obvious…but I was more curious about the particulars others gave me. However, I’ve seen Damon speak on TV a number of times…not the sharpest tool in the shed. Nonetheless, he is the type of guy who would run through a wall, so thats fine by me.
BAM…Mo is SICK
Mo STRIKES again!
That’s the game! Yanks win 3-2!
Great pitching today. Going for the series win tomorrow.
The Pirates tied it up too.
Wow. Scoreboard’s lighting up in Pittsburgh and Houston. Let’s go NL Central!
i was wrong
3 runs was enough!!!!
Greatest Of All Time! GOAT!!!
WE BEAT JOHAN SANTANA!
WE MESSED WITH THE JOHAN!
******
Okay, okay. Yeah. But that was a great win.
Hey Wagner! THATS the way to save a game! Were you watching?
Yankee pitching
But…but…Jon Lester is the greatest young pitcher in the game! How can he have given up 5 runs in 3 IP…to the ASTROS!???
Mo does it yet again! And that’s really a terrific win to get after having to fight through these pesky delays. A feel-good victory and hopefully they can earn the sweep tomorrow.
It’s been a pleasure to watch Mo. He’s godlike.
Sweeeeeeeeeeet!
Let’s continue this winning business!
There has never been a better 1 inning pitcher in the history of baseball. Enjoy him while he’s here. There’ll never be another like him.
Great win against all the odds. Santana, floods, pestilence, uh I mean Farnsworth.
Bring your brooms along with the bats, guys.
FIRE MANUEL!
Wait…is THAT the girl they replaced Hazel Mae with?!?!?!
Great win. Same line as last Sunday when I was at the game but a better game even though they both had rain delays. This was a great win though. Go Yankees!!!!!!!
YES should put together for next year’s memorial day weekend a Mariano Marathon. Every…pitch…ever…I would tivo it and play it in the background always, instead of the WB yule log, there’s Mariano….need some quiet time to read a little put it on mute and let play….it would be so relaxing.
Mo!
woo
Yanks win
“Manolo, Mrs. Nixon is finished.”
If Giese would have been even semi decent this could have been sweep tomorrow.
# ERâ„¢ (The Last Yankee Fanâ„¢) June 28th, 2008 at 8:19 pm
woo
Yanks win
ER is sad the Sox are losing. Go away troll.
Jose Reyes ruined the game for the Mets.
Met pitching was good.
ERâ„¢ (The Last Yankee Fanâ„¢)is a sick child with mental problems.
Great game and GREAT pitching!!! Andy is a warrior and his pickoff of Reyes owned my soul. I hope I have dreams about it every night for the next week
Felt damn good to watch him outpitch Johan too. And for all this stuff we’ve heard about Santana being a good hitter, Pettitte actually looked better than him at the plate. Just sayin, lol.
Anyway, MO was filthy as usual. Everyone hear the stat on FOX that the .161 OBP he’s held opponents to this year is the lowest in baseball history for a reliever with over 20 saves? (or something like that, I was too busy being enthralled by his greatness to listen 100% intently.) We are so, so lucky that we get to watch him close out games for our beloved Yankees. Mariano for Cy Young!!
Lost in the sauce. I know Andy threw the ball to actually pick off Jose. But Jorge alerted him to Jose being way off second. Jorge stood up took off the mask, Andy whirled around and threw him out.
dynasty is destiny what were you saying about the pen???
Yeah starting Joba is a bad idea!!!!Veras has been solid, kyle is still high risk, they need some of the young pen arms.. Hopefully Robertson can pitch..
4 hits and 3 runs really they did nothing against Johan but we will take the victory…
Hopefully we can tee off on Oliver and Robertson can get in a game.
“Patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.”
And by the way, if you were a green beret, greenberet, I salute your service to the country.
Jennifer, right on. It was a great play at both ends.
What does this have to do with Johnny Damon?
Oh and speaking of great plays, Jeter showed range to his left today! Take that UPenn stat geeks!
I try to imagine ER is so aware of the fact that he/she is always wrong on about every comment, he/she makes them hoping they’re wrong.
Of course, I also ignore them.
And Alex forcing the balk on Johan.
It is the little things that don’t show up. 
Petite beats Santana,
A fitting result.
“4 hits and 3 runs really they did nothing against Johan ”
Not to quibble after such a good win, but they did do something against him…took pitches, made him work and didn’t let him get away with BBs. Against a pitcher like Johan (who has pitched well even in his current losing streak) I consider that a success.
Now if they can just keep it going tomorrow against the vastly inferior Perez. In the past they have always seemed to give away outs vs him!
Here is where the loss of Wang really hurts. Length and hitting the bullpen. Wang always gave 7 innings. Rasner and Giese and Ponson will never give 7.
By the way folks. Not that it’s so shocking, but the AL’s domination of the NL again is just unbelieveable. The Yanks win puts them at +50 I think.
Now that it’s over, a final comment about Santana. I do feel bad for him because over the last two seasons he’s been on crappy teams.
His stuff is so incredible and he hardly has a stinker, but he seems to be cursed by lack of run support.
Great pitcher, great guy. Best of luck to him with the Mets.
6-4 Astros.
Gritty gamer Livan still eating innings and still down 5-0.
Johnny Damon is very involved giving time (visiting Vet hospitals)and in raising money for the Wounded Warrior program.
“Now that it’s over, a final comment about Santana. I do feel bad for him because over the last two seasons he’s been on crappy teams.
His stuff is so incredible and he hardly has a stinker, but he seems to be cursed by lack of run support.
Great pitcher, great guy. Best of luck to him with the Mets.”
Best of luck? Just go away, mel. Never wish luck on the Mets.
Livan or Dan Geese?
Hmmmmmm
“Livan or Dan Geese?
Hmmmmmm”
How about Sabathia or Harden? Sounds good to me.
Or better yet, heavens forbid, a Liberal!
Andy just credited Jorge. Said Jorge dancing out there and Jorge gave a sign.
Livan has always been good at saving his money.
Damon is more than a great player. He is a great person.
Wfan should be a good listen tonight.
Get back, Loretta.
Just turned on the Houston game and saw that Mark L. took Lester out 3 runs.
Kill Schill dreams in red and for a “workers paradise”. Like a good Pinko.
I’m out. Kudos to you for the serving the country Green Beret.
Maybe, I was a little to hard on the Damons for idolizing Reagan. Different political strokes for different folks. He wasn’t my political hero, or even my idea of a good President, but if Johhny Damon continues to play well, I don’t care if he wants to meet Francisco Franco or Benito Mussolini.
Peace out.
Gardner played LF today for SWB.
Matsui is on the DL and Damon’s heal is still bothering him.
Perhaps Damon will DH with Gardner in LF soon?
The difference between Pettitte and Santana this year is that Pettitte usually pitches well enough to win and Santana has pitched well enough to lose. Regardless of the errors and other things, he seems to let it get to him and gives up the bombs that beat him.
This is a good example of two extremes both looking stupid.
No offense.
The Astros are doing their best to give back the game.
Wow. Great job Hunter Pence.
“Gardner played LF today for SWB.”
He’s been moving around the OF all season.
kill-schilling
Why don’t you do everyone a favor and put a sock in it.
If you want to argue politics go onto a political site.
GreenBeret7
Well said, plus Farnsworth pitches great.
Santana would have been great in pinstripes.
I’ve seen what Hughes and Kennedy can do and they don’t impress me.
I’d rather win titles.
We ain’t winning titles with guys like Giese and Rasner.
By the way folks, Aceves was just put on the AAA DL.
Doesn’t sound like a big thing, a groin tweak, but we’ll see. Don’t be countin’ on him as the next savior.
Ugh, Pedroyer ties the game in Houston.
mel
Santana has had bad luck but joining the Mets was solely his decision. With the no trade, he was in control of his destination and he chose NY and the guaranteed money they offered.
Vrsce, other than the homers off of Farnsworth, that, for the most part are only ugly, haven’t hurt that much (no blown saves). As painful as it is to admit at times, he has been a pleasant surprise. Doesn’t mean that I’m looking forward to year 4, though.
I’ve been making fun of Livan, but he has, in fact, eaten innings. 7 innings, 4 ER, 115 pitches, down 5-0.
pat,
Weeeellll.. Since you put it that way, too bad, so sad for him. lol.
Rhapsody, doesn’t Matthew deserve the same rejoinder?
And Sweet Brown, a little presumptious on our scouting ability no?
Hey, I’d like it if we had Santana, but the cost in players and dollars was steep. Minny wanted to do a deal when they could get the most they could – not sure they succeeded, but the tough thing about big trades is both sides have to agree on the deal. Jury is still out – as stated above, we’ll be talking about this one for years.
Come on guys, there are other places to talk politics, this isn’t one of them.
Speaking of the Twins, when did Bonser get banished to the bullpen?
In case people haven’t heard….2008’s “Strange Injury Of The Year” is brought to you by Brandon Inge of Detroit. Inge was placed of the 15 day DL, yesterday after straining an oblique while placing a pillow under his sleeping baby.
I kid you not.
Fair minded of you Nick, but consuming innnings and losing is still losing. And the runs all came in the first 3 innings, so why not use him up when you’re well behind.
Ugh.
Just turned on the FAN and Adam the Bull is ranting like a lunatic about how Cashman is over-rated, how could Ponson and “Geese” be starting the double header yesterday and if there was a salary cap in baseball, the Yanks would be nothing. Clicked right off after that.
Would be nice to hear some good sports talk radio.
By the way folks, Aceves was just put on the AAA DL.
Doesn’t sound like a big thing, a groin tweak, but we’ll see. Don’t be countin’ on him as the next savior.
Ummmm.. it’s precautionary he will make his next start and work the 4 days in between w/ Rafy Chaves, so yeh not a big thing.
YankeeJosh IDK how your overrated winning 2 titles and continueing to make the playoffs w/ your roster.
Blargh,
Since he lost all that weight, he was reluctant to eat innings.
Boston
Adam the Bull really is an idiot
mel
you funny.
NVV, that was a dig at another poster’s love of Hernandez’ innings eating (along with everything else not hidden from him) ability at the tune of a 5.75 ERA.
uhhh..”NYY” that is….
Hmm, didn’t know innings were so calorie-ridden
Wow, Houston is really, really bad.
What gets me is the Yankees are playing really well now. Now Cashman has made mistakes, and perhaps he over-rated Kennedy. But it’s not his fault Wang and Hughes went down with injuries. Is it really a big deal that for one day the Yanks had two mediocre pitchers pitching? Plus as we all know, Cashman hasn’t always had full authority. I can understand making an anti-Cashman argument, but Adam the Bull was making an insane one. Ugh.
It’s not the innings themselves, it’s the ranch dressing.
Adam the Bull is just what he is a Big moron, he knocks Brian Cashman as a GM, not even giving him credit for bringing a new philosphy of developing from within, guys like Joba Chamberlain, Ian Kennedy Philip Hughes they still have promise, he saids how if the Yankees would have a salary cap they wouldn’t do this or that, I say he’s right because the dumb FA spending would have been done. The big problem is the media and retarded fan-base wants Cashman to pick up veterans in thier prime, there aren’t that many of them in the market, CC Sabathia is a risk, Rich Harden a huge risk, Ben Sheets (Pavano-esque risk)…these are the players that the so called geniuses want them to take, oh go get Marte forget he is 34 and a FA soon, go get Fuentes forget he is mid 30’s everyone thinks they know the solution but in reality all it does is create more holes.
YankeeJosh
And the Mets signed a pitcher for 20 plus million over the next 6 years. Um Okay.
Ranch dressing eh? I always knew that mayonnaise was bad news!
Mo has saved 54 of Andy’s wins.
Eckersly & Welch hold the record at 55.
Cut the BS with the political talk.
This is supposed to be a blog about baseball.
That’s the big thing people are also missing the Santana deal so far how is it working out ? $ 20 million and that’s to a SP who is .500. He was suppose to have the best ERA in the NL, the analysts were talking about him winning 22 – 25 games this season, meanwhile reality is right now the bang for the buck isn’t there.
Is it just me, or is Johan is a bit whiney? He’s like, “I’m doing all I can do”..
Hair dresser, I’d almost rather read the political BS than the trolling BS or the constant whining of people like Stuart Little.
S.A.
Well you can’t blame him for having seller’s remorse!
“I’d rather win titles.”
Unless you have a spot on the 40 man roster – you aren’t winning anything.
lol-that’s true mel
LOL @ Stuart Little.
Has there ever been a 7 loss CY Young winner? And hes not even done losing.
:cough: should have denied the trade Johan :cough: but I guess thats his decision right? He wanted to be a loser.
Let’s hope the Sux pen blows this.
sa- he could have given up 1 run less than Andy did
Unfortunetly I dont see the Sox blowing this game or tomorrow. But maybe we gain some games on them and or Tampa this week
We all know Barack obama’s Marxism theology taxation economic policies will make the economy worst than it is now.
nyyfaninlaaland
you missed the post below by me?
I’m a registered independent, have been for 50 years. I can’t stand partisan politics, especially on a baseball site I frequent to get away from it.
RhapsodyInBlue
June 28th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
If you want to argue politics go onto a political site.
Who is francona going to choose as the closer for the ASG if Mo stays perfect? Mariano, Papelbomb, or K Rod?
Sabathia had 7 losses last season
Webb had 8 losses in 2006
Colon had 8 losses in 2005
Halladay had 7 losses in 2003
Randy Johnson had 7 and 9 losses in 2000 and 1999, respectively
It gets even prettier earlier; 1991 and 1993 saw both AL and NL Cy Young winners sporting 10-11 losses
Wins usually more than offset losses, as far as Cy Young voting goes. Of course, Santana has been stuck at 7 wins for a while now given that run support has been sucking.
Have fun folks, I know a few other baseball sites where Yankee baseball is being discussed.
no more politics on here please
Craig Hansen is a godsend for Yank fans.
Boston really may have a worse pen than we do.
I actually don’t have a huge problem with the Santana contract. He’s a once in a generation pitcher who even if his stuff slips, will have the guile to pitch through it. But I wouldn’t give the contract to anyone else, let alone an out of shape Sabathia.
I’d rather the Yanks could steal Houston’s pudgy 1st baseman rather than Teixiera.
Jason Jones pitching for AAA
5 IP 1h 1bb 7 so
This kid is flying under the radar all year.
4 days till Michel Inoa signs
Maybe just maybe I was wrong about them not coming back.
I agree. We have a hard enough time agreeing on the Yankees on this blog, without throwing any kind politics into the mix, lol.
Couldn’t Gammons have picked a different Red Sox player to be the best setup man in the AL East? I can accept the homerism, but why Hansen?
Passed ball by the Cap scores a run and puts the tying run @ second with zero outs.
Make that one out.
like you said. Gammons is a homer
Met fans complaining about Michael Kay being a homer. How is he being a homer when he is paid by the Yankees to talk about the Yankees?
Gammons like Hansen because he catches child predators for MSNBC on his off days.
Child predator catching is wonderful and all that, but I assume then that it doesn’t leave much time/concentration for mere baseball relieving work eh?
The Gomes at bat was ridiculous.
It will probably come down to Papelbon vs the middle of the lineup
Speaking of creepy predators, Johnny Gomes just tied up the game again in Pittsburgh after our old pal Doug Mintyfresh had put the Pirates ahead.
Inoa is going to the A’s by all reports.
It sounds like a Caddyshack joke, but Ty Wiggington just tied up the game in Houston!
Delcarmen was Gammons’ pick last year and Hansen was this year’s pick.
Karma’s a witch.
omg – is tony paige drunk? he is slurring
justsaynodeal.com
Houston has tied it 9-9. We need win tommorow and sweep the Rangers to gain some ground.
Cashman needs to do something about our back end of our rotation. That’s a big weakness we have and it’s not going away any time soon.
Hughes isn’t going to return soon it’s either Horne steps up or we are screwed.
What if The Devil Rays call up David Price? Who needs CC when you have David Price in your system.!!!
Wiggington would be a nice addition to the bench. Can play a lot of positions and can actually hit. How novel ofor a bench player in Yankee land.
The Sox have more problems in their pen than we do.
Looks like a blown save in Detroit, too.
Inoa is going to the A’s by all reports.
smokescreen don’t believe it, and I know for a fact the Yankees are going to up the offer by Monday. Inoa’s group expects an offer 24-48 HRS from tonight.
This is a serious question.
Do people at ESPN think Steve Phillips is a dumb a ss like we do?
omg – is tony paige drunk? he is slurring
Take it easy on Tony he keeps it real
Well if the A’s are looking at Inoa, hes gotta be good
omgggggg, the Tigers were up 5-2….. grrrrrrrrr, I had an certain interest in the Tigers winning that game.
Let’s go Big Puma
Do people at ESPN think Steve Phillips is a dumb a ss like we do?
Gordon Damer does
Berkman comes thru in the clutch.
WHat interest? The Tigers are a threat to us. If its just the As Rays and Twins, we should be fine with the WC, but add in the Tigers and its tough
Does Houston have a closer? Can this really happen?
11-9 Houston baby
Inoa would be a great pick up from all the reports Ive read about the kid.
Maybe that is why we didn’t go for more signability players in the draft. Saving dough for the INT market.
Valverde right? I think he’s pretty good, although he has been known to (gasp) pump his fist.
Um, it was an off-shore financial interest. Otherwise, go Rockies.
Brandon,
How come the espn article said that they yanks have dropped out of the inoa sweepstakes, is that so the price stays lower on him? i just don’t understand why they would pass on him, i keep hearing he is supposed to be great, do u have a little scouting report on him? and when all is said and done, do u think he will be a yankee?
He said he was 95% sure it would be the Mets-Mariners in the World Series. Everything he says, the opposite happens, just like Chris Russo
I was watching the game today and I couldn’t help but think what an outstanding addition to the Yankees Santana would have been. Before they season I thought it would have been a terrible trade, because I loved Hughes and Kennedy, but at this point, it’s easy to see they were not as advertised. I’m the first one to admit that I was completely fooled. But now I think about it, Santana could have come to the Yankees and he wouldn’t have had to be “the guy” like he does on the Mets. He could have had Joba and Pettitte ahead of him and just prospered as a third starter. But I guess it’s too late to think like that.
And props to Huston for outplaying the Sox tonight.
Well if the A’s are looking at Inoa, hes gotta be good
Beane’s been there 4 times personally, Cash has been there twice, Carlos Rios is keeping tabs on him and they are also keeping thier eyes on Yorman, Carlos Perez I think has a guaranteed deal already and recently they made a genorous offer to Giancarlo Arias a SS that can pick it and swing that’s all I know about him I can’t lie about what I know or don’t know w/ these FAs
Nick,
Oh ok, then thats different
So what are the chances we land Inoa?
DRfS, it was nice of Phillips to leave that 5% for wiggle room.
Brandon,
How come the espn article said that they yanks have dropped out of the inoa sweepstakes, is that so the price stays lower on him? i just don’t understand why they would pass on him, i keep hearing he is supposed to be great, do u have a little scouting report on him? and when all is said and done, do u think he will be a yankee?
It’s a negotiating ploy see Beane is willing to go $4 mil, the Yanks don’t want to be used in this, if Beane stays at 4 he most likely will up it to 5 just to make the Yankees spend more, so w/ the Yankees keeping quiet they may be setting thier target deals and finalizing some behind the scene things.
I have no idea on Inoa, but I still say that Cashman should just say his bid is whatever the A’s are offering + some not-insubtantial amount of money.
DFox,
We havent even seen a full season from Hughes yet. And its not being injury prone. Hughes is also 22 years old. Give Phil some time, maybe not Santana esque, but I bet he has more wins than Santana when its all said and done career wise
Let’s go Valverde-nice and easy here
Nick-
Don’t you agree baseball is a really tough bet? You must want to kill Todd Jones right now.
Will the yankees spend more than 4 million maybe 5 million on Inoa?
DSfS, I agree with you on Hughes, but I don’t know about the career comparisons, maybe we Hughes fans can just hope that Hughes ends up with more wins over the next 6 years. Or something like that.
If Boston, Mets, Detroit, and Tampa lose and the Yankees and Phillies win, its a good day
when did the Yanks trade Kyle Farnsworth to Houston?
But David Robertson for Setup, he clearly IS injury prone and that’s why we’re not going to see a full season from him this year, and who knows when we actually will. I mean it’s almost hard to believe he’s going to be really good even though he looked good at times last year just because of how badly he got abused earlier this season.
just got back from shea.
what a long long day
man mets fans are really bitter.
atta boy Youk! sit down!
Tigers are coming back.
Buddy, I know all about it, and I do want to kill Jones, but I also want to hug Miggy Cabrera. Huge comeback win in the 9th for the Tigers! Now I just need the Astros to finish off this game!
I only said he will have more wins than Santana because Santana started very late. He just reached 100 at 29. Not that thats a bad thing, But I see with the yankees willingness to always spend money on stars to be on the field + the good offensive players coming up (Montero, Jackson, Tabata) he will have the offensive support to get alot of wins. Will he ever win a CY Young? Maybe. But dont count him out at 22 years old
There’s no way anybody would treat a 20+ million a year guy as the third man behind a rookie and someone who’s older and inferior. That kind of money and fanfare automatically makes him the face of the rotation.
Yanks gain a game, soxs just lost.
Put me in the Marte over Fuentes group.
I just hate how Fuentes throws.
Our captain is better than your captain!
My work here is done!
Way to get the job done Jose Velvere. Thank God for the 2 run lead.
Fox,
So is Wang injury prone? His finger was messed up last year and this year. Arod was out last year and this year.
You cant really blame him for breaking his ribs.
He showed me in Sept and Oct who he has potential to be
The quickest way to get banned from his blog will be talking politics. I’m not letting this forum go there. Way too many hassles. Please stop.
Thanks.
Will the yankees spend more than 4 million maybe 5 million on Inoa?
I would think they wil.
I find it interesting how Varitek forgot how to hit ever since the steroid witch-hunt took over MLB.
Come on Pittsburgh
Now lets get a Pirates win here in the 9th.
Yanks gain a game, soxs just lost.
“I find it interesting how Varitek forgot how to hit ever since the steroid witch-hunt took over MLB.”
I dont know why he would be worried. The part owner of the Red Sox was running the whole thing, so the whole team is safe from anything steroids
A Pirates win would be the icing on the cake, come on!
Nice to see the Sox lose. Would be nice to see a walk off win by the Pirates over the Rays and gain in the Wild Card as well.
Kevin
Detroit won 7-6
David Robertson for Setup, I am in no way counting him out. What I’m saying is he was never as advertised. He will never be a number 1 starter, and I doubt he’ll be a number 2 for that matter. They made it seem as if they weren’t trading for Santana because they didn’t want to trade the projected #1 or #2 starter Hughes and the #3 Kennedy (he’ll be a #4 or #5) for Santana.
Blargh, that’s not true. If they traded for him, right when he got here he would have already been the number 2. There was no way they were putting him ahead of Wang who has always been their ace. They might have though of Santana as the #1, but he wasn’t going to be advertised a it. Then at this point, everyone would have seen Joba is better than Santana now, so he would have been behind Joba. He would have never had to assume the role as #1 starter on this team, no matter what he was being paid.
Brandon why so shocked?
Anyone know if there is a way to go back to the old Mlb gameday version from this year. I hate this 3d version.
Detroit is on fire… we need to keep playing well to hold them off.
Rays are not the only team we need to worry about for the WC.
Tomorrow our games score is going to be like 8-6. Rasner vs Perez. Its going to be ugly. Unfortunetly Perez had a bad outing last time so might have a bounce back game. But I can say the same thing about Rasner.
Im calling an Arod homerun
“So is Wang injury prone? His finger was messed up last year and this year. Arod was out last year and this year.”
It’s questionable whether Wang is injury prone. At this point I would say no, but if you start to get injured every year you play, then you’re injury prone. And I’m not sure where A-Rod comes into this discussion. Even if he was prone to injury, which he’s not, look at his career stats by year. He has NEVER missed a lot of games. He is either a quick healer, or maybe he’s just a gamer who plays through injuries, but either way, he never misses a lot of time.
Brandon why so shocked?
IDK I just am for some reason.
move your mouse over the batters box, and click on options, change it to light 3d.
Can we wait for Hughes to turn, I don’t know, 24, before we call him injury prone?
Sawx lost to the Stros… what a messy game.
I guess yesterday’s day game mojo rubbed off on them…
Jennifer- Thanks I appreciate it.
“A Pirates win would be the icing on the cake, come on!”
Did someone say “cake”?
Good Evening To All
Anyone here going to next Fridays Game at 105???
Your welcome
Nick in SF, how about we call Hughes injury prone, and then when he turns 24 if he hasn’t gotten hurt in a while we’ll gladly remove the label. Because after all, he got hurt last year, then he got hurt last year when rehabbing from his first injury, and then he got hurt this year after a month of the season.
“Guys, we just traded Philip Hughes for….JOHAN SANTANA! AND, we’ve signed him for 150 million dollars over the next 7 years! He’ll be #2 on the staff, right behind our boy Wang!”
…yea, I have trouble believing anybody would swallow that last line. Remember that Santana was touted as The. Best. Starter. In. Baseball. No. Questions. Asked. As ensconced as Wang is as the ace of our staff, The Best Starter Of Them All will never be considered as the second man by anybody. And he’s getting franchise player money. And in this scenario Hughes was traded for him. Hughes was the face of the youth movement. Big spotlight on Santana in this case.
The other possible trade for Santana was Wang/Kennedy for him. In that case, there goes the resident staff ace and in comes the new one; de facto ace already, on top of the contract reason.
We can just agree to disagree on whether Hughes should be called injury prone or not.
But I have to agree with Blargh, if they make the trade for Santana and give him the big contract, he’s your opening day starter and de facto #1. Only later would Joba have become the real #1.
DFox name me a bunch of 21 year olds that never got hurt in any sport ? He’s just learning his body right now.
Look at King Felix.
But theres no way you call him Injury Prone this young.
I think Joba has proven he will 1 day be a complete ace. I havent seen many people have 9 ks in 5 2/3 innings (I was at that game) Granted, it was the Padres, but they are all major leaguers.
So Nick in SF, you believe that the Yankees were going to say to Wang: “I know you won 19 games for us the last 2 years, but you just got demoted” I think not. Santana would have been the new guy. There was no way anyone else was going out on opening day besides Wang. Wang is their guy, and most of all, he’s a home grown product, not someone who was acquired a few weeks ago. What would have been their reason for moving Wang to the 2 slot? He won 19 games last year and they wanted him to win 20? That’s laughable.
Brandon, please, stop with the dramatics. I’m not going to sit here and list them, but I’ll list a comparable pitcher: Johnny Cueto. A highly touted prospect. He’s 22. He’s not pitching great, but at least he’s not complete jello and rehabbing every time you look. Hughes is 21. It’s one thing learning your body. It’s another getting 3 serious injuries in a period of a year.
Your crazy if you think Wang is starting opening day over Santana. Santana is an ace. Wang is a very good pitcher. With the Yankees, I can come close to guaranteeing Santana would only have 1-2 losses. All you have to do is look at his ERA
Santa has a 2.93 with 12 quality start for a sub-.500 team. Imagine what he’d do on a real team like the Yanks.
DFox hold the you know what up, Josh Beckett never had injury problems, how about Jake Peavey, Cliff Lee, Johan Santana would you wantme to continue listing more players that have been hurt a young age..really do you want to label a 21 yr. old injury prone ? Really…
Why can’t have we have 3 #1’s?
Wang, Joba, and man to be named. Andy P isn’t far from that level himself.
OK yeah I’m done with the whether he would have been the opening day pitcher or not, I guess we’ll never know.
Mista Holmes brings up a great point. And you have to add the Mets defense to all of this. Did everyone see the defensive alignment today? They don’t even have a full starting defensive alignment and their defense is bordering on pathetic. Compared to the Mets, the Yankees defense would have been very solid behind Santana. You really have to wonder how he would have been on this team. And I really like Hughes and Kennedy, but I’m sorry, at this point Kennedy looks like a 5th starter and Hughes HOPEFULLY a number 3 even though he’s not going to be throwing off a mound for weeks…
Honestly, I dont see Santana as the scary ace as he used to be. I didnt say “Uh oh we lost, Santana is pitching.” The 35 pitch inning does the talking for me
Becket had issues with blisters for the early part of his career, but I certainly wouldn’t call him injury prone.
Hughes is 3-4 years could easily be a 1 with the arsenal of pitches he has. But because Joba is so powerful he will likely be the #1. And also realize Betances and Heredia could be up by then. So Hughes as a 3,4, or 5 pitcher is amazing. Not to mention we will still have Wang
Dont forget, if Cleveland goes on a streak from now to July 31st, Sabathia could be ours after this season. I’ll take Sabathia (with a little weight loss) instead of Santana.
If we had acquired Santana, he would have been our ace. Wang would know the deal.
Now if we get C.C. in the offseason, that’s not as clear cut. 1A & 1B. Probably C.C. by virtue of the contract.
Cano is up to .244
If he can somehow get it up 16 more points before the ASB I can still see him batting .300 this year
Beckett has a condition with his legs. Knockedkneedness.
“And also realize Betances and Heredia could be up by then. So Hughes as a 3,4, or 5 pitcher is amazing. Not to mention we will still have Wang”
You’re just proving my point… You just named 2 more Yankee pitching prospects. We couldn’t live without Kennedy and Hughes? It hurts because this team is SO good right now, and Kennedy and Hughes can’t really help right now. Part of the reason all these fans talk like this is because Santana isn’t an option anymore and everyone realizes what he would have meant to this team. I think deep inside every Yankee fan wishes Cashman made the deal. I know I do, but at the time, again, I didn’t want him to do it.
mel, it doesn’t matter now because Joba is the Yankees new ace, so even if they do get Sabathia, you better believe that Joba is ahead of both Wang and Sabathia. But it will be very interesting when the Yankees make the playoffs if Wang is back, who starts game 1.
No because Hughes is a #1 prospect. Betances walks too many people (and also got hurt) and Heredia(also injured this year) doesnt have stuff like Hughes . Hughes is the best option for this team.
DFox,
I completely forgot about his Jobaness.
My two rotations:
Joba
Wang
Pettitte
Hughes
#5
or
Joba
C.C.
Wang (how awesome is that?!)
Pettitte
Hughes (how crazy is that?!)
If C.C. makes it to FA, I like our chances. Otherwise, no dice.
Joba isnt ahead of Sabathia or Wang even if we get Sabathia. Joba is the #3 for the next few years if we somehow get Sabathia. And I am 1 fan that isnt disappointed that we didnt get Santana. And im sure there are more
DFox, whatever an “Ace” is, how about letting Chamberlain at least get through the All-Star break before hanging that ridiculous tag on him.
Lets just wait to see how Joba does next Sunday against Boston.
If Mussina completes the season healthy and with 18-20 wins, NYY will attempt to resign him. Never forget the power of a Steinbrenner being hungry for a pitcher making a run at 300 wins and another HOF Yankee.
mel, yeah, that rotation does look pretty nice with C.C., but I think they can still win the World Series this year without him.
David Robertson for Setup, that’s absurd. You number the starters by how good they are not how old they are. If Joba keeps doing what he’s doing, he has better stuff than both of them, so he’d be the number 1…
GreenBeret7, I said he would be the Yankees ace, not necessarily an ace. Unless he takes a turn for the worst then I think you probably have to say he’s the Yankees best pitcher at this point. You would have to figure he’s only going to get better at this point. Of course he’ll have bad starts, but ALL pitchers have bad starts. So far he hasn’t had one but you would have to believe he’ll have some.
Sorry, DFox, but, I’d prefer to wait a bit before I “have to say” anything.
Rays LOSE 4-3.