Game 83: Rangers at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jun 30, 2008 
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YANKEES (44-38)
Gardner LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Posada DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Mussina RHP
Scott Feldman (1-3, 4.60) vs. the New York hitters.
Mike Mussina (10-5, 3.93) vs. the Texas hitters.
Notes: Thanks to Mike Dougherty for calling in the lineup. … OF Justin Christian was optioned down. … This will be the major league debut for Brett Gardner. He was their third-round pick in 2005. Here’s how he was doing with Scranton. … Texas slugger Josh Hamilton (.312/.362/.565) has cooled off a fair amount. He’s at .277/.343/.468 this month. He has gone 36 at-bats since his last home run. He has never faced any of the Yankee pitchers. … The Yankees are 20-6 against the Rangers the last three seasons but five of those losses have come in the Bronx.
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UPDATE, 6:02 p.m.: Johnny Damon is just getting a day off, by the way. He’s fine. … AAA catcher Chris Stewart was DFA’d to make room for Gardner on the 40-man.
Brett Gardner makes his debut!
no Johnny Damon? is it a day off or the injury worse?
Can anyone confirm the corresponding roster move for Gardner, yet?
Bunt Gardner, Bunt!
Anybody know who was sent down yet?
I’d sit Melky over Damon, but maybe Johnny’s foot is still bothering him. If Brett produces, and Melky continues to struggle, Melky will be sitting soon enough, anyway.
Is there something wrong with Jorgie?
WFAN reported that Christian was sent down to make room for Gardner.
Christian was sent back down.
nevermind, just realized it was moose pitching…
apparently Christian sent down…
Christian was sent down for Damon.
Where is Damon?? Is this a case of having Molina behind the plate for Moose.
Really looking forward to seeing Gardner play.
FYI-Justin was sent down.
Chet
Sorry for doubleposting (this post makes it three posts, actually :-/), but the page wasn’t refreshing properly. Thanks for the answer, Astorian!
Wow, Johnny must be really hurt…I know Molina’s in there for Moose, but Johnny not even DHing?
Color me sufficiently worried.
Damon didn’t get a day off yesterday. I doubt the Yankees have given up on Melky, especially given that his defense remains as good as ever. But I’m sure they hope that Brett’s presence will provide a good kick in the rear.
Damon’s always dealing with nagging injuries, which is why I think retaining Melky until Gardner was ready was absolutely critical. Johnny’s an important part of this offense, and the more he plays Left and DHs, the less pounding his body takes.
I say that Gardner reaches base at least twice tonight and gets two SBs.
Probably just a day off. Don’t forge they play a lot of games in a row, so Joe is trying to get days off for his players.
Damon has said he is worse at the plate DHing. Some guys feel more comfortable staying warm by playing both sides, making Matsui all the more important to our offense, since the guy doesn’t care what we make him do.
Rebecca–
I would not worry so much if I recall correctly8 he played 3 games over the weekend perhaps just want to give him a day off as they had been doing. he was one of the few lefties to play yesterday so if he was really hurting they would not have played him yesterday and played christian in LF and had Bobby play RF (im my opinion)
“If Brett produces, and Melky continues to struggle, Melky will be sitting soon enough, anyway.”
I doubt it. Melky has been the 3rd best defensive CF in the AL so far this year.
Only Gomez and Adam Jones have saved more runs.
All right, just hoping it’s nothing serious with Johnny.
Melky is by far our best defender in center field. His bat needs a little work, but he basically carried our offense at the beginning of April
Kay just compared him to Brett Butler on ESPN radio, I guess that’s how the Yankees view him as.
Melky is simply a better CFer than Gardner. That’s why he’s in there.
Without him in centerfield, the Mets would have socred 3-4 more runs during the Series.
He’ll come around with his offense.
Ray, Where do you get your fielding stats from? I’m just curious, I’d like to see runs saved for the rest of the Yankees.
is damon hurt?
i think girardi realizes that with matsui out the best lineup has posada dh bc jorge cant reach 2b on a fly. Whats going to happen when ellsbury or anyone from the rays reaches base? They will be assured of a 2b. I hope Jorge gets better before the Yankees have their own version of Piazza
I think this lineup is more a product of Damon needing a day-off for his foot, rather than giving him a day off. When Damon is healthy…I’d sit Cabrera for a bit…see what it is like to have 2 leadoff hitters (Gardner at 9, Damon at 1)
why doesnt moller get some time behind the plate he has a pretty good bat?! i think if he had more at bats his fly out yesterday would of been a homer!
gardner will have i think will go 1-3 with a sb
“Is there something wrong with Jorgie?”
Nope, but Molina is Mussina’s personal catcher now.
Jeter with the long ball power against Feldman!
young,kinsler,hamilton,bradley will be tough first 5 for our pitchers
It’s his first game of the season I’ll go w/ 0 for 4 w/ a BB and a SO
Damn Giardi lets not put any more pressure on Gardner by making him bat leadoff. I hope when Damon is in the lineup it is Gardner in CF and Damon in LF..give Melky some days off. If Salty is catching for the Rangers he can’t throw anyone out so Gardner is definitely going to show us his speed..that is if he gets on base. I would also expect him to start and bunt himself on base. That is his game…
I’m a little worried about Moose facing the likes of Hamilton, Kinsler, Young and Bradley, but, actually, Molina behind the plate makes me feel a lot happier.
“Ray, Where do you get your fielding stats from? I’m just curious, I’d like to see runs saved for the rest of the Yankees.”
Patrick,
I got the information from the Replacement Level Blog when they did a writeup on CF’s in the AL.
Melky and Torii Hunter were even all around and Wells was 1 run better.
Brett Butler, huh? Hopefully he’ll be funnier than this Brett Butler: http://www.breda-en-alles-daar.....age041.jpg
A scout that CJ talked to last week also compared GArdner to Brett Butler.
Memo to Moose:
Do not pitch to Frannk Cattalanotto!
Gardner’s Debut:
1/4 – Single, 1 SB, 2 K’s (one looking), ground-out.
If I’m right, I just might explode.
Alfredo is on the DL
http://www.rotoworld.com/conte.....38;id=5564
I’m all for giving Gardner a shot now if Damon needs a day or two off because of his foot. Big series with the Sox this weekend and I’d like Damon as healthy as possible for that.
It just goes to show you how young this group is that they don’t know who Brett Butler is
First pitch Gardner gonna bunt
bphil: That’s not good news. Here’s hoping he gets well soon!
Alfredo is on the DL
Hell make his next start it’s not serious
i give a melky a day off hes been playing everyday
The BG era starts tonight!!
HAVOC!!!!
Alfredo is on the DL
He’ll* make his next start it’s not serious
damon and hideki are always ailing.. man they ned them to play..
there lineup is still good enough to score some runs if the big boys hit with RISP…
they now have mucho speed run on these guys all day long..
Christian may get another chance in September, glad he got a taste of the big leagues….
Rebecca I’m more worried about him facing Frankie Catalano. Check is stats, he does well against Milton.
I’ll be curious to see if there is something with Damon. Hopefully not, but just a day off seems odd. The Yankees said they wanted Gardner to have regular at bats, the only way he gets that is to either revolve around the outfield or cover for one of the outfielders. It was one of the reasons for bringing up Christian as well as him being right handed.
Nothing like throwing Brett to the Wolves.
I too would like to see Melky get at least a day off. Let him have a breather and come back strong for the red sox series.
I’m sure Damon is getting a day off to rest his foot.
Also keep in mind that Damon was the only lefty in the lineup yesterday and didn’t look great at the plate.
Damon’s going to be in the DH role quote a bit over the next couple of weeks and I don’t think that’s a bad thing.
Let him rest that foot as much as possible. They are going to need fresh legs against the Red Sox and TB.
the Yanks really need to not give away anymore games, if tampa keeps this up the Yanks need to put it together.
Man the Wang injury kills…The pen has internal options but the rotation is by far the biggest worry…….
Haha how is this throwing Brett to the wolves? Its a perfect time to call him up. Our CF is struggling, our LF is injured, our fourth outfielder is on the DL, we are facing a team with very little pitching and Gardner has been doing very well in AAA. Seems like a fine time to give him a taste of the majors and see what he has.
can we talk about Bradley without the klansmen of the board reporting us to Pete for talking about black baseball players…I mean being racist?
How is Gardner’s arm supposed to be, compared to Melky?
“Nothing like throwing Brett to the Wolves.”
how so? by batting him first?
isn’t that the job he has been preparing for his whole career? batting leadoff?
I don’t have a problem with the callup or starting him but the pressure comes from batting him leadoff. That’s throwing him to the Wolves. I would rather see him start in the end of the lineup and give the bottom of the order another leadoff hitter. I love his game and he’s earned his promotion. I have watched him several times and he’s a very confident kid.
I’m happy to see Gardner get a shot. The Melky/Gardner debate has taken up quite a few threads. Whatever your view, let’s root both of them on. I hope Melky’s bat can come around and that Brett adds a real missing element to the offense – speed.
Gardner’s line per expectations:
AB: 3
H: 3
BB: 1
SB: 4
R: 4
Pitches seen: 40
and makes all the plays in the outfield. Anything less and a large chunk of this blog will be here tomorrow saying how big a failure he is.
In reality I’ll predict:
AB: 3
H: 1
BB:1
SB: 1
R: 1
K: 1 (looking)
Plays a good LF and the saner people around are happy with his performance
“I am not working tonight”
Pete – even Keith Hernandez is getting jealous at the amount of time you get off.
Rebecca–yes, my heart sunk when I remembered that Catalonotto is now on the Rangers. Can’t he find a nice little NL team to go to?
Gardner’s arm is more than adequate but is not as strong as Melky’s. He gets rid of the ball pretty quick, takes good routes to the ball, and knows what base to throw to.
Time to ease Melky into a bench role. Or out the door.
He has shown nada all season.
Steve: Not as good as Melky or Bobby, but better than Johnny or Hideki.
What is the 40 man roster move to make room for Gardner. Christian was sent down but someone had to be DFA’d or moved to 60 day DL. Yankees.com already show 41 men on the rsoter so another move had to be made the other day as well.
“can we talk about Bradley without the klansmen of the board reporting us to Pete for talking about black baseball players…I mean being racist?”
Wanting a black player on the team just because he’s black is kind of racist if you ask me. I didn’t report you or anyone else to Pete though.
That said, I hope the Yankees sign Bradley after this season, he’s a great player.
If Gardner was here to put some pressure on Melky, he’d be playing CF tonight not LF.
u people are pathetic, u think Gardner is the next coming of jesus christ, and he is not the answer for a world series win. maybe a front of the line starter and a set up man, not a minor league OF
yankees.com doesn’t show that Wang was transferred to the 60-day DL on Friday.
Hughes is probably going there as well
Rebecca,
Never fear, Moose is here.
http://yankees.lhblogs.com/200.....ent-414919
Hey, I’m out of radio range for the pre-game, but have my crackberry.
Rebecca– can you or another this board more noble and generous types– post a word on Damon as soon as you learn one?
I too am now worried Damon’s foot is ailing again and it’s not just another day off.
“I am not working tonight, but will be watching the game at Foleys NY on West 33rd Street with the guys from Baseball Prospectus if you want to stop by and say hello.”
while you there, ask them how their affirmative action efforts are going?
Melky playing tonight but I agree with the point of view among some of you that he needs a night off. His on base and average are not reflective of his ability. He’s certainly at least a .280 hitter, I think he’s probably tired.
I think Girardi’s afraid to sit Melky because our outfield defense becomes porous in the gaps without him running coast to coast. I think people take his CF for granted and forget how exposed we’d be without him. Damon can’t play CF any more. You people who complain about Melky getting bad jumps, etc., you obviously have no idea how much he’s upgraded that outfield. Remove him and see what happens (ask Kennedy and Phil Hughes).
Gardner’s presence hopefully gets Melky a breather and maybe he stops swinging at the high outside pitch so automatically.
Anything to spark the offense and disrupt the starting pircher (if he gets on base) is fine with me.
Brett scored from second last week on an infield groundout. Not kidding.
“That said, I hope the Yankees sign Bradley after this season, he’s a great player.”
When’s he’s on the field and not losing it.
The guy tried to go attack a broadcaster for saying something bad about him. He had to be physically restrained, I think by his GM and manager. He got upstairs near the booth before they caught him and stopped him. He has serious anger management issues. Can you IMAGINE how he’d react to the NY press? There are reporters who’d say stuff about him just to bait him into creating more news. It’s impact his play on the field…and he has injury issues.
If ever there was a guy who’s got the talent to play in NY, but NOT the makeup…it’s Milton Bradley.
Gardner is on the 40 man I think
“He’s certainly at least a .280 hitter, I think he’s probably tired.”
This is far, far from certain. Has he been tired since early may?
They are going to give Melky a rest tomorrow because Gardner was brought to play everyday and so, he will play CF tomorrow.
kill schill: If I hear something i’ll let you know, but someone else will probably hear it before me. I don’t have control over the TV once my brother’s here.
“u people are pathetic, u think Gardner is the next coming of jesus christ, and he is not the answer for a world series win. maybe a front of the line starter and a set up man, not a minor league OF”
Nobody thinks this..
Perhaps you need to take a course on reading comprehension.
u people are pathetic, u think Gardner is the next coming of jesus christ, and he is not the answer for a world series win. maybe a front of the line starter and a set up man, not a minor league OF
Aaron, god forbid people around here get excited for a highly-touted rookie’s first major-league appearance. Jeesh.
whozat
Letting Bradley loose on some of the NY media would be fun. Can we start with Lupica?
I doubt anyone would care too much, but CJ Henry is playing at Tampa A ball and is hitting above .200 at around .281 (only 9 games, but we know how awful he was in the past). Maybe the kid actually develops into a decent player in our minor leagues.
“Aaron, god forbid people around here get excited for a highly-touted rookie”
Brett Gardner should not be considered a highly-touted rookie. The only place he’s highly touted in among fans.
He’s a decent prospect. If everything goes right for him, he could start on an MLB team during his prime. That’s pretty much his ceiling.
Gardner will be a useful player to spell Melky and Damon while Matsui is on the DL. If can hit around .275 w/ a healthy .350 + OBP and play adequate defense, it’s a win for the Yanks.
Gardner is not on the 40 man. A move had to be made (Hughes to 60 day DL?).
As for this callup, if we had not been playing SD, CIN, and the NYM with alot of lefties….Gardner would have been called up originally instead of Christian.
Gardner serves a few purposes. He is taking Matsui’s spot for now. He’ll play a bit at LF, a bit in CF, and a bit in RF/DH. He will be to the outfield what Betemit is to the infield….
He brings speed and athleticism to the squad, something sorely needed.
When Matsui comes back, it will be time to re-evaluate…but for now, he basically takes Matsui’s role and will also put a little pressure on Melky…
“Letting Bradley loose on some of the NY media would be fun. Can we start with Lupica?”
Get him to write a mean column in tomorrow’s paper and email it to Bradley
whozat: Truth be told, I would be amused at Bradley being unleashed upon the NY media. If I was a spectator, I don’t think I’d try to stop him (.(
whozat,
I hear what you are saying about Bradley but you never know how someone will play in NYC until they get a chance.
I think he’s just an emotional guy. If i’m remembering correctly he wasn’t going up to the booth to beat on the guy.
I think Bradley would be a good fit because I doubt he will be offered a long term deal and the Yankees need a right fielder for a year or two until Jackson is ready to take a spot. I doubt Abreu will agree to a 2 year deal but perhaps Bradley will.
whozat,
Fair enough. My point still stands, however. Just replace “highly touted” with “decent prospect”. I don’t get where all Aaron’s anger comes from.
“Truth be told, I would be amused at Bradley being unleashed upon the NY media.”
Sure. But I wouldn’t want to be depending on him to be my every-day right fielder when that happened
Bradley gets injured too often. The last thing we want to do is have to bring up A-Jax to fill a hole prematurely.
Wouldn’t they be taking Christian off the 40 man? Or no? I’m not entirely familiar with roster procedures.
Molina is Moose’s catcher so that is why Jorge is at DH tonight. Giambi had yesterday off so he returns to first. Damon played 3 games in a row in LF so I am sure that Girardi is giving him a breather. I assume he is available to ph and I am certain he will play the next two nights either in LF or split between LF and DH.
when Damon plays LF, I am sure that Gardner will move over to CF and Melky will sit. This is a statement to Melky that he is at risk of losing his job unless he starts to hit. I think Gardner can hit .250 and give us more speed at bottom of the line up then Melky does. If Gardner excels then Melky is either the 4th outfielder or becomes trade bait for pen help.
I still say that we need a righty bat in the line up. I think our best option is to find a corner outfielder who can be productive with men on base. This is even more critical if Matsui is out longer than 10 days.
I am not sure about putting Gardner in the lead off role for tonight’s game. Girardi is throwing the guy into water to see if he can swim. If Damon is not playing then Jeter should lead off. I would prefer to see Gardner for now in the #9 hole.
Lets keep our fingers crossed that Gardner comes through and gives our offense the spark it needs. We have trouble scoring runs because we are built for the long ball. We need to be able to put pressure on the defense with base stealing, bunting and hit and run plays. Gardner is adept at doing all this. Anytime he hits the ball on the ground he is a threat to beat the throw. Melky has decent speed but he is not in the same league with Gardner when it comes to speed.
Go Gardner
“His on base and average are not reflective of his ability. He’s certainly at least a .280 hitter”
Based on what???? When he’s going well, he’s a slightly below average offensive player. Right now, he just plain stinks to high heaven. His defense is fine, but it’s a lot easier to take with slightly below average offense than it is with invisible offense.
I have a question I am hoping someone can answer: does a player like Justin Christian make more money when playing for the big team and then go back to his regular AAA pay when he gets sent back down? Always wondered how that works…
“But I wouldn’t want to be depending on him to be my every-day right fielder when that happened ”
Yea….oh if only I was the owner. Then I’d pat him on the back and say ‘you did fine’. Then I’ll have to fight whatever punishment the league hands down.
“When’s he’s on the field and not losing it.
The guy tried to go attack a broadcaster for saying something bad about him. He had to be physically restrained, I think by his GM and manager.”
Yeah, could you imagine if he hears what Michael Kay might say about him?
Michael Kay gets people angry who don’t have anger management issues so……..
“Okay kid, welcome to the minors. Now lead off in front of Derek Jeter for your first at-bat”
“I think he’s just an emotional guy. If i’m remembering correctly he wasn’t going up to the booth to beat on the guy. ”
Patrick,
Trust me when I tell you, he wasn’t going up their to exchange pork brine recipes with the guy.
patrick i understand , imhappy to see a lil difference in the line up too.. but is he better then damon? i mean come on, theres not gonna be much difference. He’s gonna be a decent bench guy, but he’s not no jay bruce or anything like that.. so let’s calm down a lil bit.. u should go up and read some of the posts, they’re pathetic..u weren’t this happy when Joba came up.. jesus
*majors…
Uh, Aaron, you weren’t here when Joba came up. At least if IIRC. Because yes, we were this excited for Joba.
Wonder what number Gardner gets? He wore #6 in SWB but I doubt they give him Torre’s old number.
BTW…Yankee players that wore #6:
#6 – *Tony Lazzeri, Tommy Henrich, Mickey Mantle(short time, until 7 was availible…little known fact), Andy Carey, Clete Boyer, Deron Johnson, Mike Pagliarulo, Charlie Smith, Ken Griffey Sr, Roy White, Jack Clark, Steve Sax, Rick Cerone, Brian Little, Randy Velarde(before Torre), Tony Fernandez, Joe Torre(Manager)
not # 6 I think that’s being held for the next big everyday player( hopefully Ajax )
Really excited for Gardner’s debut. He could really spark this team.
Kevin
No matter who Gardner is or isn’t, projects to be or not, it’s exciting to see a prospect make his debut. Especially one with speed. And someone said here that Ellsbury is overrated in his role in Boston’s offense. His speed has really opened up their offense, according to the experts at ESPN. Well, maybe we should take that with a grain of salt.
Best of luck to Brett.
“His defense is fine, but it’s a lot easier to take with slightly below average offense than it is with invisible offense.”
I think you’re short changing his defense a little bit.
He’s 4 runs below average this year as of June 21st.
He’ll be hitting left handed more often so I expect his offense to improve.
If he can be at least average or 1 to 2 runs below average he’s well worth it in my opinion considering he’s being paid penning.
I misspoke earlier. Torii Hunter is 3 runs below average and Well is 4 runs below average.
The only 4 CF’s who were standing out were Hamilton, Granderson, Sizemore and Upton. The rest were average or worse.
Wow – I had been checking in on Gardner’s stats periodically, but I never noticed his gaudy triples numbers until just now. 10 three-baggers on the year already. That’s better than any of the MLB leaders at this point. Granted, Brett’s numbers are from AAA, but that still says a lot about that speed of his that’s been advertised.
Obviously Yankee fans need to be realistic about what to expect from him on the MLB level, but I think he could provide a spark that we need right now. While Godzilla is out, Damon is battling soreness, and Melky is struggling at the plate, this is a great opportunity for Gardner to show what he can contribute.
My prediction for his debut:
2H in 4AB (one of them a 2B), and two SB.
4 runs below average including his offense and defense.
Defensively he’s 4 runs above average. Offensively he’s 8 runs below average.
total intuitive feeling:
i like seeing gardners name in the lead off spot.
why not see what he can do?
There will be one of those rare 5-tool players on the field tonight …… Josh Hamilton.
Crap. I’m officially concerned about Damon. Of all the days for Pete to have off, lol…we want info.!!!
Anyway, I’m sure this has already been mentioned in another thread but I dont feel like reading all the comments – looks like Inoa to the A’s, should be announced on Wednesday (as reported by Baseball America.)
Everybody say it with me now….daaaaamn! Any word on why we let ourselves get outbid by the penny pinching A’s here?
nicknames for the lineup
1. LF Brett “the hitman” Gardner
2. SS “The Captain” Derek Jeter
3. RF Bobby “the man” Abreu
4. 3B “Mr. MVP” Alex Rodriguez
5. 1B “The Giambino” Jason Giambi
6. DH “The Greatest Catcher” Jorge Posada
7. 2B “The latino prospect” Robinson Cano
8. C “Mr.Catch everyone stealing” Jose Molina
9. CF “The Milkman, the melky way” Melky Cabrera
So who is going to pitch the last game before the break ???….if the Yankees skip Ponson’s regular start ( after Texas ) and insert Andy on regular rest….then Andy is on tap for last game before the All Star break….If they let Ponson pitch when it is his “turn” then we get Ponson on the mound for that game. Which do you think is better for the Yankees in the long run ? Just wanted to get your opinions….
I think we’ll see a lot more of Molina catching and Jorge at DH with Matsui out and the DH spot open. The last thing we need is to lose another right-handed bat.
Here’s hoping that Brett Gardner continues to do in the big leagues what he’s been doing at the AAA level: playing + defense, getting on-base, stealing bases, scoring runs.
Let’s hope that the Brett Butler comparisons are appropriate. Brett Butler was a VERY valuable player.
But Melky Cabrera had better step it up. His offense has stunk for a while now and, if Gardner does well, when Damon returns to full-speed, Melky’s headed to the bench.
Brett will be wearing #11 according to wikipedia
Gardner had at least 1 walk in his past 10 games at SWB.
the texas rangers lineup(according to their blog on the dallas news)
2B Ian Kinsler
SS Michael Young
RF Josh Hamilton
DH Milton Bradley
LF David Murphy
CF Marlon Byrd
1B Chris Davis
C Jarrod Saltalamacchia
3B Ramon Vazquez
Gardner leading off. This could be amazing.
it’s amazing if Arod or anyone else on the Yanks did what Manny did it would be all over the news, Just amazing
so i guess it’s alright to abuse a human being as long as he isn’t as high up as a GM
Of course Ryan diverted…he’s a homer. I can’t stand this manny-being-manny crap. Obviously, as a yankee fan, i cant stand him, but the fact remains, this isnt a quirk in his personality….this is him being an a**hole
Best thing the Yanks can hope for is to sweep the Rangers and have the niether the Rays or the Sox sweep.
Can anyone explain to me why Gardner and Melky arent being projected eventually to play on the same (Yankee) team?
Yes I know they are both CF`s but obviously one of them (most probably Gardner, on the worse defense level) will be pushed!
Damon and Abeu are not going to be playing forever, or even next year for that matter! imagine next year having Gardner, Melky and Christian as our 3 Outfielders! I mean young, exciting, the base paths will be busy. On the deffence its forsure better and it will not cost a cent in trade! It will also confirm that this farm system isdoing stuff!
BTW, he will be wearing #11
Good Luck to Moose this is one tough top of an order!
“The Sox/Rays ‘rivalry’ was the first topic, and when the conversation jumped to Manny pummeling the George Costanza of the Red Sox, ol’ turkey neck Bob Ryan diverted the topic SO quickly, I was amazed. Completely disregarded it by saying ‘thats over and done with’.”
Wow, what a bunch of useless homers. We all know if a Yankee had done something like that, they’d be ranting and raving for a week that he was a “thug” and “bad for baseball,” calling for his suspension, etc.
Yanks sweep and the Rays sweep, i rather deal with the Rays than the Sox
Bob…their names are Austin Jackson and Jose Tabata. If you can parlay Cabrera and another youngster into a pitcher, thats what they are good for. Long-term though, there are better prospects. I do hear that Tabata is not playing well at all, but that guy is still only 19, even though it seems like he’s been in the system forever.
i say jackson, tabata and gardner would be my OF in the future
Any chance the Commish’s office will look into the Manny altercation, NOPE. Why because the are A****** buddies.
Right now the Rays are a much better team than the Sox.
Be careful what you wish for.
More importantly, right now, there are a lot of teams better than the Yankees.
I’d still rather face the Rays rather than the Sox, anyone who knows the games will tell you that. You have know how to win first, the Sox have proven that, the Rays have to prove it first.
congrats to reggie willit- erm, I mean Brett Gardner.
“i say jackson, tabata and gardner would be my OF in the future”
No chance of happening. I dont even know how you can say this when none of these guys have a single at bat in the majors, and Tabata has went awol on his own team last month.
Besides, this is NY, there is no chance the Yankees will put 3 young guys in the outfield. They’ll trade / sign a big time free agent before this happens.
“so i guess it’s alright to abuse a human being as long as he isn’t as high up as a GM”
once as a bullpen catcher on a team managed by clete boyer, i ended up in the predicament of having the gm of the team in a head lock after he took a swing at clete after clete was beginning the launching of retaliatory fire.
tony cloninger ,the pitching coach, told me to get the gm out of there. i ended up taking him out of the hotel gathering, down the hall, down the elevator, through the lobby, and then put the gm in cab. all while he was in a head lock.
the only thing that saved my job was that the gm was too drunk to remember me the next day.
Brett Butler was a very good player, started with the Braves and traded in 1983 to the Cleveland Indians along with 3B Brooke Jacoby and pitcher Rick Behenna for Len Barker in one of the worst trades the Braves have made in the last 30 years.
They were in a pennant race with the Dodgers who had just aquired pitcher Rick Huneycutt and the Braves were desperate to keep up. Len Barker turned out to be damaged goods-elbow, the Braves still finished 3 games behind the Dodgers.
Dodgers lost to the Phillies and the Orioles beat the Phillies 4-1 in WS.
Think any Braves fans will agree that not keeping Butler as their leadoff hitter was one of their worst mistakes.
Of course their best was not re-signing Kyle Farnworth to a ludicrous 4 year deal!!
I dont see Gardner, as much as I’m interesting in seeing him play, being a long-term solution in the outfield. If what they say about Jackson is true, theyll surround him with some free-agents.
Dave,
Shush! Willits is a horrible hitter (well, except against the Yankees).
Jon;
I do agree with you, Tabata and jackson are the future!
But I`m tlaking about next year! Abreu has to go (nothing agianst him, i think he has done well at times this year and will be crucial for the Yanks to make the playoffs) and Damon doesnt have to much longer-escpecially with injuries- Tabata (19) and jackson (20) still have a few more years in the minors!
And btw Im pretty sure Tabata will come right!
But think about next year STARTING off with pure younsters;
Rotation includes, Wang, Joba and Hughes (fingers crossed)
Bull pen includes; Robertson, Melancon (Cox0
And the hitters; Gardner, Melky, Cano (Christian)
Oh great, the most overhyped and overrated player EVER aka Brett Gardner is leading off.
Woohoo, instead of going to some lame Battle of the Bands thing like I thought I was gonna hafta tonight, I get to stay home for Gardner’s debut!
Curious to see Hamilton in action too. As someone else pointed out, the entire top half of the Rangers’ lineup is no joke. But fortunately Hamilton is a lefty and Bradley will bat LH against Moose, who has been extremely effective vs lefties this year. So Kinsler and Young are the big ones to worry about. And Frank the Tank, he always kills us!
I am looking at the Rangers’ OBP stats right now and other than Bradley and Kinsler, most of them are fairly low. So hopefully Moose can get them to swing at pitches out of the zone. He’s done that pretty adeptly against other young teams this year.
Given a choice, I’d rather see the Rays take 2 of 3 and leave the Socks with a battered bullpen coming into the Bronx 2 1/2 games down.
With these 5 ERA and high 4 ERA Rangers pitchers, this series could get really ugly for the Yanks…..
considering what happened yesterday against Oliver
Let’s go Moose! Good luck tonight Brett.
ohhhh Brett Gardner time
I dont think anyone is selling Gardner as a savior. Judging by your name “canocabrera” this just might be a threat to Cabrera’s playing time. Let’s be honest, Cabrera has STUNK, and Gardner is a different look. That, more than anything, is what is going on here. Not overhyping or overrating.
It’s great to see Brett get this opportunity. As someone who’s had the chance to talk to him over the course of the past month on more than one occasion, I can tell you, he’s ready.
He’s always been very patient, and wanted to earn this opportunity. If Brett plays to the level that he can play to, he could be there a while.
Brett Gardner tonight…
5-5, 2 HR, 6 RBIs
3 IP, 0 hits, 0 BB, 9 Ks
20-22, 256 yrds., 5 TDs, 0 INTs
31 pts., 10 rbs., 10 assists
…and he’ll shoot a 6 under par
What kind of arm does Gardner have? (Sorry if I missed the answer in an earlier post)
Of course you’d bring up my user name. I can assure you that I am not bias but this kind of overhyping (among fans and NO ONE else) is absolutely ridiculous and laughable. I’d say the same if your were worshipping a minor league catcher.
For a lot of folks saying that Melky is done and over the hill, did you know that he’s actually a year younger that Ellsbury?
Count me among those who hope the Red Sox get their rears handed to them (although I despise the Tampa Bay Goon Squad as well).
Jorge, I think youre selling Gardner short. They already have his monument done.
“Brett Gardner tonight…
5-5, 2 HR, 6 RBIs
3 IP, 0 hits, 0 BB, 9 Ks
20-22, 256 yrds., 5 TDs, 0 INTs
31 pts., 10 rbs., 10 assists
…and he’ll shoot a 6 under par”
You forgot that he’ll beat Roger Federer at Wimbledon 6-0 6-0 6-0
Pete just posted that Chris Stewart was DFA’ed to make room for Garnder on the 40-man. I could be wrong but it sounds to me like we will be carrying 3 catchers all season long given this new information. Given the injury to Cervilli (not that he’s in AAA anyway) and Moehler not eligible for assignment why would the Yanks take a chance like this? Any ideas?
Jorge Steinbrenner, don’t let Gardner fans catch you saying that, they will say you are underestimating his abilities.
Bump the White House, Brett Gardner for Pope!!
i forgot to say that anything less than that, then he’s clearly a bust, we overrated him, we should have traded him for Santana while we had the chance, and should sign Bonds RIGHT NOW to play left field because, you know, we need REAL major leaguers in there.
that’s every troll talking point for the night. now they won’t have to bother until about the bottom of the third.
Gardner has this opportunity-let’s just see what he does with it.
Chris Stewart was up for a day and, well, let’s just say he couldn’t even catch VD from Amy Winehouse.
I think that, if we needed a fourth catcher, there’s plenty of guys better than Stewart on the scrap heap, or even on our announcing team.
The best outcome over the next three games is for the Yanks to sweep and Boston to take 2 of 3. It’s the only way for the Yanks to gain 1.5 games in the standings and in the number of games behind to Tampa in the loss column.
Pete: Thanks for the updates
I think they re-filmed PTI. The version I just saw showed Bob Ryan say he didn’t like that manifestation of the New Manny.
I like how Adande brought up Pap’s comments about the series with the Rays. Pap’s a punk.
JR Yankees,
I think you’re dead on. Carrying Moeller isn’t the worst thing in the world. He has a decent stick (which can be utilized in limited situations). He really drove that ball in his pinch hit at bat yesterday, only to have it die at the warning track. He can play first base too, and carrying him gives the Yanks the option of DHing Posada, playing him at First, or using him as a pinch hitter.
Moeller is by no means an all-star, but I like the idea of carrying him all year. And if anything happens with Posada again, you’ve got a decent tandem of Molina/Moeller. And given that Jorge needs surgery at the end of the season, he’s definitely at risk.
Moeller is a much better catcher than Stewart, he has no options, and given the construction of the team, there really isn’t a reason to send him down.
Wondering if the Yanks might be showcasing Gardner hoping to get something in a package for him at the trade deadline.
Nobody’s likely to pick up Stewart, but, that would give Trenton catcher, P. J. Pilittere a shot of moving up to to Scranton. That would allow Kyle Anson a spot in Trenton.
Good move all around.
Don’t forget hat tricks in Olympic futbol and the ice hockey world championship, as well as the yellow jersey in the upcoming Tour de France.
And that’s how you know Gardner had his wheaties this morning.
LeBron just lit the fuse…
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/.....id=3468173
O/T- would you offer Arenas a max contract?
I am so done with these Mohegan Sun commercials. Taking crap 80′s songs and adapting them with people who can’t sing. That really makes me want to go.
Gardner 1-4 2so
This is what we dont need
Jeter SS 0-4
Abreu RF 1-4
Rodriguez 3B 0-4
Giambi 1B 1-4
Posada DH 0-4
Cano 2B 0-4
Cabrera CF 0-4
Molina C 0-4
Gardner’s arm isn’t bad, it’s above average, but it’s not Melky’s canon. Power isn’t part of his game, but he’s wanted to be more of a line drive type hitter for sometime.
It bugged me when Kay just said he had a weak arm there(I seriously hope I heard him say it wrong).
Chad Jennings has Gardner’s arm as average…at best, but below average as the norm.
You didnt hear him say it wrong.
The LeBron James “battle” in 2010 will be interesting..
Jay Z and LeBron have been plotting his signing with the Nets for years.
Sounds like some of the Melky supporters are really threatened by Gardner.
Nobody thinks Gardner is an All-Star in the making or anything else. They see Gardner, as I do, as a better option than Melky because of his speed an ability to get on base.
Why do Melky supporters feel so threatened by Gardner that they feel the need to exaggerate everything?
Spare me the “patience†and “age†factor with Melky. The kid has been in the majors for two years and his game is not improving. In fact, his numbers are most definitely in decline.
It’s time to push Melky now. If he responds and plays extremely well over the next few weeks while Gardner is in the bigs – it’s a win-win for everybody.
Stop pouting let Gardner play for awhile. Melky had his chance. Now it’s someone else’s turn to make a name for himself.
sky looks awful bad here in northern jersey
The Nets are without question going to make a move for ‘Bron. I can see him in Brooklyn, actually.
It’d be really cool.
For all we know, both Melky and Gardner could end up as 4th OFs. The Yanks farm system has not developed a solid OF since Bernie Williams. And please don’t throw out Shane Spencer or Ricky Ledee as solid OF prospects. It seems like every OF they develop ends up as a 4th or 5th OF…or a platoon player, at best.
We just had a short rain storm here in central NJ.
Melky has not performed at all.
On a below expectation Yankee team, he stands out as even worse that the rest
You can see LeBron’s empire growing by the season once he gets to NYC
Gardner leading off…it’ll be interesting to see what he can bring to the table with The Big Club.
With Matsui’s chronically bad knees I’m afraid we’re gonna need a really soild 3/4 OF the rest of the season.
Anyone up for a little Xavier Nady?
I think I heard a stat where Cabrera has been batting .225 for the past month or so. If he doesnt feel his job is in jeopardy, than that is apparently acceptable to him.
Chad has his arm as above average, nothing spectacular, but above average. I’m in NO way saying his arm is spectacular, and is nowhere near as good as Melkey’s, but he’s quicker than Melkey and does a good job of getting to the ball. His release timing isn’t exactly shabby either.
We’ve been down the Melky vs. Gardner road many times, no need to do it again. That being said, I’m looking forward to seeing what Gardner is all about.
Melky’s bat has not been strong, but he’s made up for it with good defense and smart baseball when he does reach base.
I bet you all say send Brett down if he doesnt get a leadoff hit.
Michael Kay and Singleton wearing matching shirts on purpose?
Mel – I would not offer Arenas a max contract. Hasn’t he had like 3 surgeries in the past year or 2? Was just skimming today’s sports news and saw the Wizards made him a huge offer, I don’t know if it is considered a max contract or not, but it’s too much money IMO. Plus they re upped with Jamison (a good call, he’s so underrated) so it doesnt seem like they’d have much money to spend on next year’s Big Pimpin FA class if they did this.
But they are a division rival, so if they want to handcuff themselves with Arenas, by all means!
Also, LeBron will be a Net. I am almost sure of it. But my Heat will still find some way to own the Nets in the playoffs, so it’s all good!
It must be bowling nite!
Yeah, uh, there’s a reason YES isn’t a fashion network…
Under/Over 1 Stolen base from Brett Gardner tonight
It wouldn’t matter if the Knicks got LeBron, they’d still blow it as far as I’m concerned.
I really hope Moose doesn’t get hit with yet another delay. Two games in a row, not so good for Moose.
Gardner has to get on before he can steal.
Strikes, please, Moose =D
Kinsler should be the 2B at the ASG, not the leprechaun from Bahsten.
bbb- you still here? I got an email back, yes you can still sign up and you’ll still get the fan club package
Gardner has to get on before he can steal.
So im assuming thats under?
Definitely not a good color for Kay. Is he picking up weight? He should go back to wearing the 3 piece suits.
BBB. No-max is $20M, so they stretched the years. He’s good, not great.
Texas 1-4 scares the hell out of me.
Rebecca,
Do you also yell “defense” at the tv when you watch basketball?
mel: He’s picked up a lot weight.
Hey, is it me or is the ‘stache lighter?
Seriously, Hohn looks like Mattingly there.
Giambi stepped off?
mel: No, don’t watch enough basketball, but you should hear what I yell at the hockey players.
Great play by Jeter. Botched call.
The stache is lighter haha.
Out
aurgh, Young with 2 strikes against him is almost as tough as Abreu.
CLOSE play too…I say he was out! :p
Jennifer – Awesome, thanks a lot! I will send the sign up form in then
Completely off-topic. Indians fans better hope they go deep this year to ease the pain. Lebron James announced earlier today that he would love to play in NYC in a couple years.
How devastated would we be if Derek Jeter has said years ago “I would love to play for the Cubs in a couple years”
Wow, this umpire has like no strike zone.
Mel and Rebecca,
Did you see the Joe Girardi show yesterday? A girl wrote in and asked Joe Girardi if he could set her up on a date with Michael Kay.
Rays 1 on Upton HR on 1st pitch of game
Sox 0
Darn it. Come on Moose
If anyone crosses the plate this top half, I’ll be seriously pissed.
Michael Kay is a pervert. Ever hear him on his show with Christina Stafo?
Fran: That I did not see.
Wow. Moose. Strikes, please?
Ugh. So, the game starts with an umpire blowing a call, and Mussina reverting to his nibbling self.
And now it’s 3-0.
This is fantastic.
No fear, Moose. Cattalanotto is not in the line up.
21 pitches…not good.
Some strikes would be nice.
I honestly would feel better if the Rays took the series from Boston because we have no idea if the Rays can deal with the pressure in the 2nd half
Moose looks scared of these guys.
Fran,
Did Joe laugh?
Clutch K
I’m really fed up with our pitchers having to pitch with no leads.
fran- I heard that! TOO FUNNY!
Moose is trying to throw something not down the middle that the ump will call a strike. All I can say is the zone better be the same for the rangers pitcher.
Would be a big lift if Moose gets out of this jam.
ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — Red Sox designated hitter David Ortiz plans to attend next month’s All-Star Game, but won’t play due to his injured left wrist.
Ortiz
Ortiz will likely win the fan vote to be the starting AL DH. He has a partial tear of the sheath that surrounds his tendon, which occurred while swinging during a game against Baltimore on May 31.
“I’m going to go to the All-Star Game. Show respect for the fans,” Ortiz said Monday night before a game against Tampa Bay. “I’m not going to be able to play.”
Ortiz has been hitting of a tee, and could move to soft toss sessions by the end of the week.
“I’m still working my way up,” Ortiz said. “I’m feeling better everyday. I’m not going to tell you when I’m going to be 100 percent because I don’t know.”
Ortiz had a team-high 13 homers and 43 RBIs when he got hurt.
“When we get to the All-Star break, it’s hard to know exactly, but that’s probably where he’s going to start feeling like he can play,” Red Sox manager Terry Francona said. “When we get toward that break, maybe we can start to turn him loose a little bit. Then again, maybe he won’t be ready.”
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Yessss, no “call your shot” HR derby BS from a Red Sox player
Yeah Gardner, what a catch!!!!!!!!!!
Okay. That was painful, but it’s over.
Hey look! Brett Gardner!
Too many pitches for Moose, but you can’t argue with the results.
Whew!
“And now it’s 3-0.”
It is? :0
Moose!
2nd outing with an extended 1st inning and a high pitch count – but at least there was zero damage this time.
Alright!
Get to work bats. Some early runs would be nice
Go Brett!!!!!
I like Bretts bat…I have a feeling he won’t shatter it…
Melky is a future all star.
Here we go. Brett Gardner for next CFer of NYY
Mel,
He did laugh. Then Kim Jones (who was hosting) said they would try and set something up and have her meet Kay at the stadium.
Jennifer,
If the girl was going to write in for a date, I’m thinking like why not Derek? Michael Kay?!!!
This is what I’ve been waiting for. I realize most people don’t have a chance to talk to these guys, but Gardner is easy to cheer for if you’ve ever met him. He simply wants to play the sport he loves.
Lets go Brett!!
Nibbling worked out ok with a K and no damage done for the walk (better than giving up a HR to a hot player).
wow I don’t know if anyone said this but I really wanted Kay to say something about bradley right now because I really wanted him to get his a$$ kicked
Hopefully Mussina,Pettitte and Joba can keep there pitch counts low now that there facing AL lineups.
Gardner with his first putout.
Way to go Moose.
Way to go, Mr. 1B ump.
31 freaking pitches.
This kid is a scraper
Let’s go Brett
Holy…kid’s fast!
Wow holy sh it almost beat that out haha
Well, that’s a nice AB for a rookie.
wow…that is fast.
well, worked the count and MAN can he burn it down the line – LOVE the hustle out of the box
look at that speed
The inconsistant strike zone in baseball is not a charming aspect of the game but a real blemish on the sport. Time for a computer.
Not these overimportant pompous jerks
ZOMG he made an out!! OVERRATED!!11! Send him down now!!!
LOL…he almost beat it out though, and he worked the count full. Good start Brett!
Nice hustle
At least he got the bat on the ball and made the pitcher throw 6 pitches.
Come on, lets hear the Gardner hate
“3-0″ referred to the count, not the score, at the time I made that post.
I can see where the confusion could come from, though.
WOW, that kid is FAST.
Wow…Jeter didn’t get Gardner’s memo on how to have a lengthy AB.
This kid is a bust! He’s no Mickey Mantle! –
Oh wait, I’m not Bill Madden – maybe I’ll give him another AB!
Hi folks, just got in.
So what’s the consensus on Gardner? Big bust?
In other words, the guy sucks! He’ll probably 3 hit the Yanks.
Melky is usually weezing if he tries to run half as fast as Gardner
Gardner will attempt a bunt at some point tonight.
AJax with HR #8 tonight in his first AB.
Is it just me or is this guy’s strike zone twice the size of Moose’s?
Gardner is being sent down. Girardi thought he had the stuff to bat .1000 and he messed it up, so will be benched next inning
Gardner > Reyes
“Big bust?”
DOLLY PARTON
Not sure if any of you saw this quote on River Ave Blues blog site but it is interesting to see what Cashman said at a recent dinner.
I for one, tend to lost patients with this team and the process of rebuilding – more so because I think the veterans on this team are mostly overpaid unproductive loafs and would like to see more of our younger players come up and get their feet wet. But it is a process and it does takes time.
But you can see where the Tampa Brain Trust set back the plan that was in place during the great run in the 90′s.
http://riveraveblues.com/2008/.....oach-3171/
Whoops, my bad Ron – yeah, I thought you were talking about the score cause there were 2 men on with a 3rd at the plate in a hitters count.
Is AJax ETA still late 2009?
…Wow, Bobby, that was not close.
I seem to have missed the part where Kinsler tagged Abreu, but if the throw beats you by that much and a swipe like that you’re gonna get called out 99% of the time
ugh, since when can Saltalamacchia throw runners out?
“Gardner > Reyes”
Haha after 1 at bat?
Right after Kay says you can run on Texas, Abreu gets thrown out
I still think Cashman has something up his sleeve for the deadline. If he starts talking now, the price will just keep rising, but if he waits till the end of July, then he may be able to pick someone up for fairly cheap
Come on Moose, need a quick inning here.
Mooooooosssssee
Niiiice pitch.
Alright, back to work Moose. Hopefully this will be a bit better than the 1st inning?
Here is my favorite non Yankee catcher
chris davis is to texas as shelley duncan is to yankees?
Mooooooooooossssseee
That quick enough for you?
Nice quick inning for Moose.
that a boy!!
MOOOOOOSSSSEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
Nice Moose!
Moose is looking incredible
Gardner pinch hitting for Giambi?
Great inning!! Now, we need some runs! Come on, offense.
Whoa Moose! Niiiiiiiiice!
Woohoo reasonably quick inning!! Beautiful called 3rd strike on that Davis guy before too.
when the hell is saltalamacchia 13 letters long?
lol Kay cracks me up like nobody’s business
Nine pitch inning for Moose, exactly what he needed after the first. And is it true that Brett Gardner can run as fast as the wind blows?
Moose tightens noose!
yeah I counted 14 and was a little confused there
lol a recount… lol
again that is just too amusing
Saltalamacchia is clearly fourteen letters long.
Bizzaro world Feldman will probbaly 2 hit the Yankees.
Do Rangers fans call Saltalamacchia “Salty” like Braves fans used to? As an Italian, that always pissed him off. Don’t deny his heritage by giving him a nickname that only SOMETIMES ends in a vowel!
Kay is a complete Moron…I wonder what is the REAL reason he remains our nightmare when we are so unfortunate as to be subject to his blathering stupidity.
***always pissed ME off**** rather….but I bet it pissed him off too haha.
I’d say Moose handled that overgrown ranchhand pretty well.
Hmmmm, could Nolan Ryan be the surprise?
Nice walk, now steal 2nd
Oooh, I like surprises.
Bet Nolan Ryan’s in the booth.
Activate Stache Power!
I hope Bobby Murcer’s the surprise.
Called it
lol glad to see i’m not the only one who really does not like kay and singleton…
honestly, i think flaherty and cone can just run with it; they are good, young and knowledgable enough.
for that matter, why the hell is the old guy and joe morgan still doing the ESPN broadcasts?
suzyn waldman is worse
gotta be nolan for the surprise
I was hoping Murcer would be the guy they would talk to in the booth, but it sounds like everyone thinks it’ll be Nolan Ryan. That’ll be far less exciting than a phone call from Bobby Murcer.
i like singleton though
As long as it isn’t Roger Clemens in George’s booth, I’m okay with it. I say Murcer too.
Jon-My thoughts exactly!
Mets took Santana over Lohse yet Santana is 7-7 and Lohse is 9-2, and beating the Mets 2-0 right now
Looks like Ortiz is going to miss the All-Star game…does that eliminate the whole “called home run” contreversy?
Yankees need to take advantage of these walks
Lol pat. This year, it’s Barry Bonds!
COME ON GEORGE YOU GOTTA GET A HIT THERE
ok, let’s not let him get away with these walks here…
Looks like Ortiz is going to miss the All-Star game…does that eliminate the whole “called home run†contreversy?
Yes, I posted the article up a little bit. If he misses the ASG, he cant do the HRD
Umm…Didn’t Robbie Canò not have an RBI last game? You know, the 3-1 loss to the Mets where Betemit homered?
Unless I missed the memo and yesterday doesn’t count.
It’s okay though, I’d love an RBI from him here.
Is anyone else getting an out of sync with MLB.tv between the audio and the video?
We need to get em home. Come on
OK…like BOTH of those pitches were out of the zone….umps stink…always !
Ellsbury
http://minors.baseball-referen.....i?pid=4378
Gardner
http://minors.baseball-referen.....i?pid=5277
Ellsbury
minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=4378
Gardner
minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=5277
damn…
Yea Lohse is doing good although I think this is more of a career year. Also, kinda a haha to the rest of the league who passed on giving him any sort of contract.
Ellsburyhttp://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=4378
Gardnerhttp://minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=5277
Mussina got pressed for strikes in the first along with the messed up call at first. I guarentee you the umps botch a home run call tonight. So far they already are some of the worse umps we had
Cano battling…
according to gameday, feldman is 27 pitches thrown, 18 balls and 9 strikes…
wow?
“Ellsbury
minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=4378
Gardner
minors.baseball-reference.com/players.cgi?pid=5277″
do bostoninians not have their own blogs?
Good baserunning by Giambi.
NO JOKE: Arod is reportedly dating Madonna!
http://deadspin.com/5020876/ce.....w-doing-it
Ellsbury = Gardner
Good AB by Robi anyhow – many pitches.
Good job Melky, show you belong….
gotta score there
“do bostoninians not have their own blogs?”
what the heck are you talking about??? get a clue dude.
That’s why I’m not high on Cabrera. For a guy who is having trouble throwing strikes, you take some pitches, and make him work until you get something you know you can drive. That’s just a bad at-bat
dang it. Wish we got something there
Argh, Melky, you’re better than that!
jesus f’n christ. what a waste.
Melky is an auto-out at this point. Joba would do better hitting 8th right now.
David Robertson,
Thats what the minor league stats show anyway (which was the intent of my post… the one that was too complicated for Sam the hick to understand)
Is Melky trying to improve Robi’s self-esteem by plunging his batting avg below his compadre’s?
lol alright david…
let’s be reasonable with the comparison here…
until further evidence, i’m not gonna call you the lefthanded version of papelbon yet.
Well, RISP issues aside there, we’re still being no-hit.
Mooooose!
“Argh, Melky, you’re better than that!”
No hes not.
melky needs a kick start and brett may do it.. but i dont like the idea brett taking over cf. he is david eckstein type player with a weak arm, not a starting cf for the yanks
impressive cano takes 8 pitches in one ab..
according to an online source? HUH? Okay I saw Manny and Madonna together. So someone go publish a story on it.
Jim KAAAAT wow that is a surprise
Kaat!
…I did expect Jim Kaat!
Jim Kaat….i like that guy
JIM KAAT!!
jim kaat?
kay overplayed that one… just a little tadddddd bitttttttttt
nevermind I thought you were making a comment like gardner is nothing compared to ellsbury… seriously my bad… I thought you were dissing the yankees… most ny fans would not advertise the fact that they are from boston… no offense.. I made an inaccurate assumption..
I miss Kaat so much
“Yea Lohse is doing good although I think this is more of a career year.”
Dave Duncan has a way with getting career years out of his pitchers. It’s pretty amazing how well guys do when they go there.
SamVA,
no problem… I should have figured that. I’m a proud Yanks fan who happens to be stuck in Boston (at least for now)
“(which was the intent of my post… the one that was too complicated for Sam the hick to understand)”
though I did deserve that… I lived 90% of my life in CT… and was born there…
Madonna was also at the Yankee game last week so it must be true!
SamVA,
Jim Kaat was one of my favorite announcers out of the limited choice I had growing up. Keep him in there, come on back Jim!
A-Rod clearly has a thing for masculine looking women.
I think Ellsbury was exteremely over hyped. Either that, or our Outfield farm system is ridiculously good that Gardner is basically unknown. When Ellsbury came up, he was ALL over ESPN. Tonight all that will be mentioned is that its Gardners first game
lol??
GO CT!!!
Stop ripping Melky. He is a future all star.
Why would Arod go for Madonna? He can find women 100000000x hotter than Madonna
1-0 Rangers
I was thinking Gardner… speed of ellsbury size of Pedrioa…. okay maybe not that small haha
80 RBI’s…. not bad
Melky a future AS? Where do you gather that from? I really hope your kidding.
Kaat was smart enough not to wear the blue bowling shirt
Damn…on an 0-2 count too. Hamilton is no joke.
Cmon bats, TIME TO GET IT BACK!!!
this is going to turn into something like the Gorzelanny game… feldman is gonna walk 6 and we aren’t going to score…
Hi guys!
Let’s go Yanks. Need some hits and runs. This guy they are facing has never won a road game.
How old is Madonna now? 45? 50?
Dave Robertson for set up – that’s because ESPN isn’t even trying to hide the fact that they’re biased towards all Boston teams…. I’m surprised they even covered spygate – but notice how every time they talked to one of the “experts” about it all they said was “this isn’t a big deal, this is going to happen, then it will be over with”
That story is so stupid. his wife probably grabbed him by the you know what, when he was caught in Toronto. She would take him to the cleaners!!
Get it in gear offense!
Any chance we can generate a Milton Bradley outburst this series? They are FUN to watch!
Get to work bats
What does Melky have to give. IDC how good his arm is, he shouldnt be up if he proves over and over again he cant hit consistently.
“David Robertson for Setup
June 30th, 2008 at 8:00 pm
Melky a future AS? Where do you gather that from? I really hope your kidding.”
If you haven’t figured it out yet, that’s my personal troll. He’s an idiot, and will be banned tonight
Man, Kitty got old man forearms real quick when he left the booth. The broadcast definitely misses Jim Kaat and Bobby Murcer. Hopefully, there are people in the wings who can do what they did.
TK – Farnsworth vs Bradley? I would pay to see that one!
And for the record, webbing or no webbing, I’m saying Krazy Kyle would F him up.
Here we go again
“She would take him to the cleaners!!”
A-Rod’s wife isn’t stupid. She knows that he’s got many more millions to make. Why do you think Michael Jordan’s wife waited so long to divorce him?
FTR – I am -liking- Gardner’s patience at the plate.
I’ll tell ya…the bottom this lineup has to strike fear in the hearts of the opposing pitchers…right ?…I mean, Cano, Melky and Molina….they are MASHERS…right ? ;-(
“Why would Arod go for Madonna? He can find women 100000000x hotter than Madonna”
Yeah, but do you have any idea how much $$$ she’s worth? A-Rod’s got his priorties. It’s either her or Oprah.
For those that didn’t have the privilege of seeing Jim Kaat pitching in his prime, you missed seeing an original Dutch Master on the mound. Think Andy Pettitte early and then reinvented himself as a starter by going to the no-windup pitch. Great fielder and he hit and hit with power. Finally, he turned himself into a good lefty out of the pen.
I figured that Original V, but couldnt ignore an ignorant and stupid statement like that.
Wow Brett knows how to work the counts
THAT was a strike? This ump needs to get pimpslapped.
come on kid
come on kid
come on kid
You have to like how this guy makes the pitcher work, regardless of the K
That was a strike, but the low one for S2 was a ball
I like how this kid works the count.
OK I’m LOVING this kid so far…. two 3-2 counts
thought that pitch was high but still a good at-bat. I hate when the strike-zone changes because there’s a rookie at the plate, it’s really not fair, baseball is baseball, strikes 2 and 3 were not strikes
Brett sure does work it
I can’t believe we don’t have a hit yet off of this loser.
how about we focus on getting a hit?
I’m more concerned with the fact that Scott Feldman (!) is making the Yanks look bad right now. Typical below-average pitcher making them look silly (ala Tom Gorzellanny)
BBB –
Yeah – after seeing Farnsy maul Affeldt (?) on YouTube, I like his chances – Milton couldn’t even push that 1st base coach away that time he had a meltdown for no clear reason couple of years ago.
Tough break for Gardener on that call
A-Rod and Madonna share a manager, both have a house in Miami and share a common friend in Ingrid Casares. It would not be unusual for them to know each other. All the rest is just speculation until the tape comes out.
Wow. Gardner does have a good eye.
Melky is safe until Gardner gets his first SB. Thats when Cash and Girardi will say “What is Melky doing still in the majors, drop him to AAA”
Yeah strike 2 was the one I meant, I am a slow typer.
Full counts both times, I’ll take it.
But what I will not take is a Russia-sized strike zone for some nobody rookie. And Moose gets a small one? WTF, I thought veterans were the ones supposed to get the benefit of the doubt if anything…ohhh, except when the veteran is a Yankee I guess.
no-hitter!
a hit..please Jeets?
feels like a repeat of yesterday
Original V – pretty cool to have a personal troll, you must be pretty damn important lol
Good to work the counts.But after awhile you have to hit them.
We need AT LEAST 2/3 in this series
luv jete to death… but if he keeps on hitting like this i’m gonna die twenty years earlier
Is the Ranger’s bullpen up to their usual standards this year? (i.e. crappy?)
how does a pitcher like feldman has a no hitter against us through 3?
Red Sox threatening the Rays.
Who thinks Papelbomb will start trouble if he comes in at all this series?
OK so maybe it’s the Yankee bats and not the pitching. They couldn’t touch Perez yesterday and now they can’t hit this pitcher. What is with this team?
do bostoninians not have their own blogs?
No Sam. Too small and they’ve only recently discovered instant coffee.
I’m happy with Gardner so far… he’s impressed me with his discipline.. I mean he’s a kid at Yankee Stadium making his debut and he has worked the count full twice… At least he has better plate discipline than Melk
Kelli… 1 haha 2 I wish I could be Sam in CT
I didn’t get a chance to read any posts earlier today…
but did anyone bring up Michael Inoa?
I wasn’t happy to read that Oakland has apparently signed him for 4.25M. If Oakland is opening up the wallet for a 16yr old, you can be pretty sure he’s got some skills.
“Who thinks Papelbomb will start trouble if he comes in at all this series?”
If I was a ‘Ray I would hit the deck if he throws up and in and see if you can get one of those Farnsworth special suspensions from Big Bad Bob Watson.
If Gardner was 0-2 and the rest of the team 1-1 or 2-2 then I would be worried, but this kid is making Feldman pitch to him
Tampa retakes the lead over Boston 3-1
Rays Gross hits 2 run HR for a 3-1 lead over Sox
TB up 3-1
considering Feldman was having some control issues early, you’d think all the guys would be making him work and throw strikes like Gardner did…
2-0. Nice CF coverage fat boy
^ Joke BTW
ok – this is irritating…
Well, the game’s over now. Stuart Little can now go beddie-bye and not bother the adults.
I dont like this version of Mussina…nibble nibble nibble
I was going to say… I don’t even think speedy gongardner could have made it to that…
Tampa Rays = 2001 Diamondbacks
Who cares about the BOS/TB score while the Yankees have no hits against Scott Feldman?
HELLO !!!!!!!
Anybody know how to hit ?
V- what are you talking about…? please explain
Im all for Tampa trading for CC. That means we will probably sign him in the offseason, and they lose alot of chips + they wouldnt be a shoe in to win
Pretty sweet couple of days for the Yanks offense.
I especially liked when Perez pwned A Rod by blowing gas by him.
Booooooooo
Ok….so, what are the odds the yanks actually get a hit this inning and look like they want to play?
“I dont like this version of Mussina…nibble nibble nibble”
Yeah – but the other version of Moose is ‘Groove a fastball and watch it fly’. Haven’t you heard about our version of Jamie Moyer? 8)
HR from Arod
I don’t know about the rest of you but despite the 2-0 lead I like the way Moose is pitching…
A-Rod a bomb!
bye bye
again I called it. Wow
There it is…now let’s go
OMG
thank you thank you thank you
finally
Gardner needs more minors time.
well thank you for a hit that counts that much
that was a bomb!!!
seriously, moose is pitching great…
this is how he should pitch always
The funny part about that HR….he actually had to stop himself from being so out in front…unbelievable power
Oh Baby!
Strike a pose!
Alex!!!! one swing takes care of the no hitter and the shut out.
What a shot that was – (he was so close yesterday to hitting one)
Now if he would only do that in a big moment with guys on in front, then we could start being happy.
did you call that or was that a post from after it happened?
Finally a hit!!
Sigh. Another meaningless homerun.
Its always amusing how people call others “no(sic) nothing”, while looking like they don’t know how basic grammar.
I was about to ask how we were getting no hit, and then Alex went and did that.
Now was that a useless “arod” homerun? That was clutch. Not his fault Abreu popped up
I dont quite understand how that was meaningless…it means we actually cut the lead in half.
No I really did call it. Same with his SB earlier.
Need to score Posada.
“I wasn’t happy to read that Oakland has apparently signed him for 4.25M. If Oakland is opening up the wallet for a 16yr old, you can be pretty sure he’s got some skills.”
boston dave-
i was asking what was up with that last week and the consensus on the blog that came back was that cashman was either laying in the weeds on inoa or that he is overhyped.
during the game is not the best time for discussing this in detail, but what is going on when oakland spends 4.25 million on a latin american pitcher?
and the yankees dropped out?
Moose deserves serious Cy Young consideration.
jon
some here think everything Alex does is meaningless. just play along.
I think mel’s comment was supposed to be sarcastic.
Calling that homerun meaningless is pretty stupid. It just reduced their lead by half.
jon,
That was sarcasm. There are no meaningless homeruns.
mel –
apparently the sarcasm detectors on the blog aren’t working. don’t be so subtle.
4-1 Tampa haha Paps must be pissed
back to work Moose. Nice and easy..please?
Mel, you really need to get your sarcasm icon working.
Cano needs to be traded now.
“during the game is not the best time for discussing this in detail, but what is going on when oakland spends 4.25 million on a latin american pitcher?
and the yankees dropped out?”
I think the Yankees dropped out of the bidding at $2.75M
I can’t really say I blame them – Cashman looks long-term, but a 16 yr. old you are looking at 5 years till a real return in a normal world.
Gotta feel for Brandon – Inoa had replaced Erick Threats as his obsession.
Kinsler is a good hitter…im glad he’s on my fantasy team.
What a play by Gardner. I havent seen Melky do that today
That was a prodigious HR by Alex before, but I still want a hit with RISP like a crackhead wants a hit, lol.
lol, we need a sarcasm emoticon, apparently.
Just put my kiddies to bed… come down to see this… oy.
Gardner 0-2 so far. And the offense is still missing. hmmm… need spark.
Interesting question they’re discussing now, I was wondering it myself. Should we be rooting for the Sox just because we want to gain ground on the division leader, or rooting for Tampa because we think they’re less likely to be there in the end and/or because we just like seeing Boston lose or… I really don’t know.
cmon Moose, don’t walk Young in front of Hamilton….
Ack, Moose, get these guys out!
Dont let the 0-2 fool you. He struck out on a high FB, and had 2 7+ pitch at bats
We should be rooting for the Yankees to win their games then you can worry about who wins the other series
“What a play by Gardner. I havent seen Melky do that today”
He’s just been doing it all year.
the wink is a good sarcasm emoti but I can’t get mine to work tonight.
“Interesting question they’re discussing now, I was wondering it myself. Should we be rooting for the Sox just because we want to gain ground on the division leader, or rooting for Tampa because we think they’re less likely to be there in the end and/or because we just like seeing Boston lose or… I really don’t know.”
We root for the Rays because we dont know if the Rays can keep it up down the stretch, but the Sox will be there the whole season, and if they get swept by the Rays, and we win 2/3 here, were in good shape
Melky getting greedy there. Its in LF
” With these 5 ERA and high 4 ERA Rangers pitchers, this series could get really ugly for the Yanks…..
considering what happened yesterday against Oliver “
that was almost a nasty collision
Randy I – Earlier in the day, SJ44 explained that the Yanks actually had a deal in place with this Inoa kid, for about $2M, or something like that, but that another agent had gotten involved, and told Yanks that the old deal was out, and they wanted more money. At that point, according to SJ’s contacts, the Yanks dropped out.
I obviously don’t know if any of this is true, but that’s what was noted here by SJ.
lol I was just about to say, little power struggle there…
That will work.
How many Ks does Moose have?
moooooosssssseeeee is looking good
Moose strikes again!!!
Thank you, Neil, but since we’re capable of holding multiple thoughts in our heads simultaneously, I think it’s a legitimate question. Especially when the Sox and Rays are only seperated by a half game, so there’s no particular advantage either way.
Guess we sank Milton Bradley’s battleship:
http://www.miniclip.com/games/battleships/en/
4-2 Rays
Way to get out of it!
Bradley 0-3, 3 K. Moose really owns him. w00t! Maybe he’ll whiff a 4th time and have a temper tantrum somehow resulting in a bench clearing brawl in which Krazy Kyle comes running out and opens a can of whoop ass!
Wow feldman has a HUGE strike zone today
Can Cabrera get a hit?
moose is pitching great.. the pitch to Hamilton was a good one…
I do not know if he can do much more…..
the offense needs to get going..
“Melky getting greedy there. Its in LF”
CF always has the right of way – I think it is in the Bible somewhere.
David Robertson for Set Up, I really can’t tell if your pro-Gardener posts are honest or sarcastic. You must be kidding. He has had a good approach at his at bats, sure, but 1, Melky has been playing good D and Melky is the CF so he makes the close calls.
Unless you’re being sarcastic.
Meanwhile how is Bradley not thrown out for yelling like that at the ump?
Nice Moose!
Back to work bats..
homerun melk man?
Ack Rebecca?
Sind sie Deutsch?
I really cant remember the last time I saw him get a hit….god’s honest truth
Ahhhh, come on Melky
offense offense offense
Melky-Molina what a duo at the bottom of the order, they will probably account for 8 of the 27 outs today.
June 30th, 2008 at 8:46 pm
David Robertson for Set Up, I really can’t tell if your pro-Gardener posts are honest or sarcastic. You must be kidding. He has had a good approach at his at bats, sure, but 1, Melky has been playing good D and Melky is the CF so he makes the close calls.
Unless you’re being sarcastic.
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Yes its sarcasm. I would hope I wouldnt get excited about a routine pop up
Wow or maybe 7
Nick – I’d like the Rays to take 2 of 3 in that series, scoring a ton of runs and really beating up Boston’s bullpen in the process, since they come in to see us next. I also hope at least 1 of the games goes extra innings, but 2 would be even better.
nick in sf-
i hate the red sox from way back so it’s an easy choice for me. let them lose and lose often.
Who had Molina getting an infield hit before Gardner in this game?
WOW….SB here is obvious
steal get in scoring position brett
OK…here is your shot, Gardner. Third time seeing this bum…he just gave up a hit to …cough, cough….Molina….what do you have for us, sir ?
Vrsce: Nein.
Hablo español y ×× ×™ מדברת….Any other player, that’s a DP, but Brett beats it out.
OMG!!!Molina a hit off Feldman.
Let’s see the first SB of career!
it’ll always be hard to double him up!!
not much, it looks like…
That’s right, you aint doubling Brett up even on a nice play!
We need Jetes and Abreu to get over .300 again.
(and Gardner to get over, um, ZERO!
Yeah baby thats 1 sb
And there’s a problem with Brett Gardner. He may slap the ball and get infield singles but with a man on base (as slow as Molina) that’s a fielders choice.
sb here?
Even though it was a bad throw…thats what he needs to do.
pitch out? pshhhh, can’t stop the Brett
Kid can fly.
stole the base ?….on a pitchout ??…I can’t complain about that….Let’s go JETER !
He tripped halfway and still would have been safe. You see him basically rev up to run ?
stealing is good
Woohoo, hopefully the first of many SB’s for Brett!
And THAT’s more how I remember Saltalamacchia’s arm.
Rebecca
Son usted Israeli?
that’s speed.
wow – posting delays…sorry about that
Nick – just can’t pull for the Sox. Rather take my chances with the Rays. Plus 1st goal is WC, then division, and keeping Boston out of the playoffs would be sweet. Plus lots of season left – not too worried about maximizing short term gain.
Three grounders to short for Jeter
we need to figure out how to use his speed to our advantage, Jetes needs to get a hit next time Brett is on
sad to think the Yankees are being 3 hit by Scott Feldman… 1-4 4.46 era…
Will we EVER get a hit with RISP again? Sigh.
Jeter cannot hit an inside fastball from a right hander anymore. Stop denying it at this point. His bat speed is very obviously declining and unless he turns on a pitch to scare pitchers away, he’s going to hit into DP after DP on that pitch.
C’mon!!! This team needs offense at the deadline. It’s a sad thought, but unless Cano and Melky turn it on, the bottom of the order is woefully bad.
Gardner > Melky in 3 at bats
well…one more inning of this bum and if they trot him out against the heart of the lineup with him on his last legs….we need to make them pay !
“sad to think the Yankees are being 3 hit by Scott Feldman… 1-4 4.46 era…”
In the Bizzaro world his numbers are actually 14-1 with a 1.46 era….
Feldman that is.
How about doing this with the lineup?
Gardner,
Damon
, Jeter,
Abreu
A-rod and so on
Derek Jeter is the BEST…game tied at 2…
Oh I was dreaming
Moose really wants the 20 win season huh?
The ideal spot is up 9th, after Melky and before Damon
How about we just bench Melky? I like that idea. Gardner is better than him right now unless Melky learns how to hit again. He works the count much more, has way better speed tat he can make stuff happen with, and with his speed has more range in the outfield.
Yes Moose is pitching great, but Feldman is better and Moose walked Murphy on 5 pitches to lead off the 4th which ended up being the lead run. Moose already at 96 pitches.
Feldman is CY YOUng, dont you know?
another run or two would be nice from the Yankees..
Maybe later?
I guess this is bizarro world yankee offense too. sigh.
I just handed in Psych paper on changing behavior. I used baseball fans and this forum as my example. All I know right now is that the Rays are beating up the Red Sox. This will be a lot of fun because you know the Red Sox are going to limp into the Bronx after the Rays are done with them. No matter who wins the games in Tampa it’s going to be a dog fight.
I’ll be surprised if we don’t pull this game out. It’ll be great if we can sweep Texas since we’ll definitely pick up games on the Sox or the Rays.
It’s good to be done with school.
Jeter is having a mediocre and demoralizing season…imagine if this was A-Rod putting up such numbers..do you think anyone would give him the benefit of the doubt for a HBP 2 months ago? He and Cano are the two biggest reasons for their offensive underperformance only Jeter makes 10X the salary. Do you think anyone has the stones to point this out to him and light a fire under him?
This just in. Yankee fans at the stadium love the SB. Brett Gardner seems to be a fan favorite
interesting ranger front office with nolan ryan being old school and a young new school gm.
Yeah, for sure, batting Gardner 9th is like having 2 leadoff hitters. Melky is essentially the no. 9 either way.
VRSCE: Soy Jewish. No se que decirse “Jewish” en español.
Eight strike outs? Wow. Wish the bats would get Moose a little run support here…
Need to score this inning.
Is it just me or does Brett Gardner have a HUGGEEE glove?
cmon Yanks… get the win for Moose here!!
Our Juvenile Delinquent is 1 for 3 and improving his hitting the past few days.
Action Jackson has hit his 8th HR of the season.
Weak hitting anemic lineup.
Pitching is keeping them in games. A complete reversal of the predictions.
Rock on Moose!
MOOOOOOSE! Nice job.
Wtg Moose! Pick him up offense!!!
Come on bats, get Mike the lead this inning.
We gotta pick up the Moose…he is pitching one heckuva game !
Brandon – if only the Yankees would hit like the Thunder, huh?! :\
Brandon. By Juvenile, do you mean Tabata?
Please…I hope the Yankos don’t sleep walk through this inning
OK, Wannabe Yankee managers. Mussina is on short rest (sort of) and at 103 pitches. Do you bring him back to face the bottom of the order. I say yes, and, go batter to batter.
Moose has been very good. Our garbage offense needs to pick him up here.
“interesting ranger front office with nolan ryan being old school and a young new school gm.”
randy –
when I lived in Austin – the closest team was the AA Ranger squad which Nolan Ryan owned just north of town in Round Rock.
Ryan built a stadium there which was extremely well run and he is considered a god in Texas Baseball circles for good reason.
another loss for Mr. Moose
so unfair
Davis a total of 11 major league ab’s and he has driven in the lead run for Texas.
Feldman 1-3, a righty no less, and we have only one run so far!
Who does the advanced scouting on these players?
check that – it was in the Houston farm system.
Brandon. By Juvenile, do you mean Tabata?
That’s my nickname for him
So do you send Moose out for the 7th w/ 103 pitches already but bottom of the order (8,9) up? Sneak him through 7 and we could save either Veras or Farns for the next day.
Let’s get Moose some runs off this mediocrity!
This offense is just sickening lately. They either blow a team out or score three runs or less. Just an act that is getting old and is what has kept them from closing the gap in the standings.
Seraphidic?
maybe Arod can tie it up, all on his own?
he was guessing there
WHY can’t we score?!?! We gotta get Moose the win!
It’s often discussed (and joked about) that the Yanks have trouble with young pitchers that they’re seeing for the first time. Is it just a lame excuse, or do other teams loaded with veteran hitters have similar issues? I mean this is pretty embarassing.
Yeah Giambi hahahahahahahahaahahahahahaha triple
Too bad there are two outs
Yankees are sleepwalking again.
Then again, how many 2-1 games has Texas been involved in this season? At least in the sixth inning?
….Holy.
I.
Giambi just…
Tripled?!
BEHOLD THE POWER OF THE STACHE!
Giambi with a triple? This is bizarro world this year.
Brace Face Kevin Long
(Neil, didn’t mean to sound like I was jumping on you, sorry, I just thought it was an interesting question regardless of whether we win or lose)
Thanks for the replies. I hadn’t considered the we’re-playing-Boston-next angle, that seems to be a compelling reason to hope they’re beat up by Tampa. Hopefully they’ll all be tight, taught games, leaving both teams drained.
Way to go Giambino!
“Giambi going for 3 will he make it !”
Did anybody else LOL
I think I just experienced an earthquake.
A TRIPLE!! It’s been years since Giambi had a triple.
a triple for speedster Giambi 8)
get ‘stache home? Please?
wheel out the oxygen tank for Big G!!!!
It would be a infield HR if Gardner hits that one.
Posada has to come through here, now that ‘Cy Young’ Feldman is out of the game
wow – can Posada bring him home?
Posada vs Francisco
0 for 6, BB, 2 K
” ERâ„¢ (The Last Yankee Fanâ„¢)
June 30th, 2008 at 9:02 pm
another loss for Mr. Moose
so unfair ”
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Another day we have to listen to this idiot troll
so unfair
Just a basehit Sada thats all I ask
Posada is DUE !
Nick – No hard feelings. It’s just that people are always worried about Boston and Tampa Bay scores when the Yankees can’t even win their own games.
McCutchen
6.0 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 5 K’s
PT/S: 103-68, GO/AO: 6-7
Good eye!!!! POSADA GUESS HITTER
Jorge. NOT COOL.
Nice swing Jorge
Back to not hitting with RISP. Posada left runners on in the 2nd inning and now.
Cheeses Rice !
WTH is he swinging at ?
Just got back to see that the powerful Yankee offense has returned. 4 hits against this weak pitcher tonight and no hits through 4 innings. What the hell?
And I don’t think anyone can provide some stupid link that shows how this pitcher pulled his head from his arse and had one good game to justify shutting down this line up.
Texas has the worst pitching and worst defense in the league. And what does the “vaunted” Yankees offense do? 1 run on 4 hits through 6. Pathetic. Our pitching is not the problem. How many 2-1 games are we losing this year? A lot.
4 hits against Scott Feldman. That is embarrassing.
GiambiTRIPLES and now no one brings him home?
HMM>> YANKS inconsistent ball club? or were are just taking this night off?> Someone tell me, I just threw the clicker at the t.v whats the god dam deal in the bronx?
disappointing
i feel bad that moose won’t get win # 11.
This team is a disgrace when it comes to hitting. Apparently putting all the “regulars” back in the line up has done nothing.
Has to be a conspiracy that every night the Yankees face a Cy Young candidate. Amazing how the scheduling works that way.
Good to see that 200 mil payroll at work with this powerful line up. Another wasted performance by Moose because the offense would rather stick the bats elsewhere than use them to hit.
Ugh. This really sucks. I’m not in the mood for this mediocrity today….actually, perhaps I’m even insulting mediocrity by calling it that. Blah. The sad part is I saw that strikeout coming a mile away. And, of course, that it was ball 4. How much longer will this team continue to get themselves out?
3rd base, where Yankee baserunners go to die.
way to get them clutch hits in this game. woohoo. painfully pathetic hitting.
Matt -
I’ve never seen a post of yours where you aren’t whining about the Yankees.
Get some anger management.
call me crazy but posada has not been having great atbats lately. He has been swinging at many pitches off the plate
This offense is just terrible. Getting our hats handed to us by another middling starter.
This team beats itself. Unbelievable. 0-6 with RISP. They’ve had more than enough chances to strike. Last year they were near the top with RISP and they led the league in runs. This year they are almost LAST.
There is no way that Jose Molina can hit in the bottom of this inning.
wait a minute he hit 94 mph ?
can posada not catch up to the fastball anymore? 2 of those 4 pitches he looked like he was guessing a fastball for a strike and didn’t get it so he checked his swing. can posada not hit a 95 mph fastball?
Wow. This might not be too pretty.
Lefties hitting .294 off Francisco and Posada strikes out. At least put the ball in play. How many inning have we had runners in scoring position and not brought them home tonight.
Moose comes out, bullpen gives up runs is my prediction.
Green Beret – great minds thinking alike?
I didn’t think Joe would do it – is he a bit too “by the book”?
I don’t know who posted what but I’m not worried at all about Tampa or Red Sox scores. Just enjoying the thought of them beating each other up.
Question. Does anyone think that could have been an inside the parker by anyone else hitting the ball? Could Ichiro stretched that into a homer? Or would the ball being thrown straight toward the plate make the difference?
um..come on Edwar
also whenever a ball is hit that hard i wonder why the right fielder does not just throw to first to get the runner.
As Artie Lange would say….
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!
This blog is already becoming a cesspool of whiners. At least wait til the game is over.
Someone Else,
Grow up. The team is playing horrible baseball tonight, I have the right to be upset. If I weren’t, I wouldn’t be a fan, kind of like you. Stop trying to start flame wars if you have nothing productive to say.
3rd base, where expectation meets reality.
I love Molina’s arm.
Well Ron Washington gave Edwar a gift there.
It’s amazing how they don’t score runs with Damon in the lineup. It was the same way last year when they continued to foolishly bat Melky leadoff in his place.
YOu DO NOT RUN ON MO LI NA !
“Someone Else,
Grow up. The team is playing horrible baseball tonight, I have the right to be upset. If I weren’t, I wouldn’t be a fan, kind of like you. Stop trying to start flame wars if you have nothing productive to say.”
How is what you’re saying productive?
You’re saying the same thing you said yesterday. And Saturday.
‘The Yankees’ offense is sucking’ is hardly productive.
If the team sickens you, stop watching the game.
Thank you Jose.
*With Damon OUT of the lineup
Nice Molina!!
9 outs to score 1 (2) runs vs. a horrid bullpen. This game is winnable.
i have a feeling gardner might not get another atbat. they might send up damon
Have you said a single thing about the team? No. You only come here trying to start a flame war by launching personal attacks against other posters. Grow up. Telling me I need anger management is just immature and you think what I said was unproductive?
leadoff runner gets on, which usually bodes poorly for the Yankees and gets thrown out-what luck.
Go Yankees- show them Rangers what you’re really made of!!
Great recovery Edwar! Nice help from Molina, too!
Cano – Melky – PINCH HITTER PLEASE
Excellent inning, Edwar. Pitch around the single (and Molina = excellent).
Edwar with a good inning.
So the secret to beating the Yankees.
1. Let Girardi manage the bullpen and the lineups.
2. Throw a pitchers that the Yankees have never seen before, better yet, call him up from your AA affiliate.
3. Throw a pitcher who is inconsistent and has an ERA above 4. He will look like Cy Young.
4. Throw fastballs to most of the line up – Cabrera, Cano, Posada, Molina, Matsui – out of the strike zone they will swing.
5. Really confuse the Yankees, let them put runners on 2nd and 3rd with less that 2 outs, they will never score.
6. Make sure your team has a losing record when you come to Yankee Staduim, you will start them on a winning streak.
2008 summed up. And many here said “wait until the All Star break”, “wait for the 10 game winning streak”, “the offense will heat up”. Guess the offense heating up was just the microwave warming those Nathan Hot Dogs for the overpaid loafs.
maybe girardi should load the bases during batting practice.
get them use to the idea of hitting with men on.
Well, what I thought was gonna be an ugly inning turned into a good one. Now if only we could have a good offensive half too!
ok – please don’t bring out edwar for another inning… I think it won’t end well if they do
i have a feeling gardner might not get another atbat. they might send up damon
It’s 2-1 not 4-1
Just because you’re alright polishing Jeter’s shoes while he goes 0-3 doesn’t mean I have to be. You’re not the supreme authority on what a fan can and cannot think. If you don’t like what I said, you can disagree, but don’t launch a personal attack. You think anyone will consider what you say if all you do is attack the other person in the process?
vs Francisco
Cano
0 for 1
Melky
1 for 2
Molina
Never has faced
Don’t know if any of you are using MLB Mosaic but you should look into it. Very cool.
“Have you said a single thing about the team? No. You only come here trying to start a flame war by launching personal attacks against other posters. Grow up. Telling me I need anger management is just immature and you think what I said was unproductive?”
I’ve used another name tonight.
I’ve never seen a SINGLE post of yours where you weren’t whining about the Yankees.
I won’t respond to you again if you don’t respond to me. I don’t care about starting a ‘flame war’. I just get irritated by the whining that you and 80% of the ‘fans’ here resort to every single f-ing time the Yankees dare to not win a blowout.
The Yankees are going to lose games. The offense will go away from time to time. This is a team built around walks and HRs – runs tend to come in bunches or not at all (hey, a lot of the great teams have been built this way). Get used to it.
Just do me a favor. Before posting another 2 paragraphs on how much the Yankees offense is sucking, do a CTRL+F for your own posts and ask yourself if you’ve already posted it 10 times in the past 3 days.
it may be 2-1 but damon call pull one down the line
Cano, Cabrera, Molina and Gardner….1 for 9 this game…LIGHTS OUT, guys…you REALLY are earning your pay !
make that 1 for 10….you SLUGS !
Reegie Corona has gone yard in Trenton
The Yankees could not have asked for a better schedule with a chance to play Texas at home while Boston plays Tampa Bay. But instead of beating up on the Rangers they play like they just got back from a west coast road trip the day before and now have to find a way to score before they make seven outs. Typical Yankees this year.
Check out what Mussina did – the Rangers have been one of the -best- offenses in baseball this year, and 6 innings of 2 run ball, 8 Ks. I’ll take it.
cano and melky = automatic outs…
Then if you don’t care Someone Else, DON’T READ IT. Nothing is making you read my messages. Most people are frustrated about the way they are playing. They have scored 5 runs so far in the last 3 games. That isn’t getting it done. Most people want to discuss the team’s performance on the field. They will read my post and comment on it.
If you don’t care, then IGNORE IT and stop launching personal attacks and acting like a child.
will get swept by Texas ?
one positive aspect of the last two at bats, hit hard towards the middle
These guys need to snap out of it. They get a great performance against a great hitting team, and they cant rack this pitching staff? Unacceptable.
it may be 2-1 but damon call pull one down the line
You do not want to lose Molina’s arm right now, and if it stays 2-1 or god forbid we tie and the btm. of the 9th comes up, Johnny becomes a PH or PR
i hear the spoon and the tin in the backround. anyone know the story behind that?
Molina might as well keep his catchers gear on when he has to hit as the possible third out of an inning.
“Then if you don’t care Someone Else, DON’T READ IT. Nothing is making you read my messages. Most people are frustrated about the way they are playing. They have scored 5 runs so far in the last 3 games. That isn’t getting it done. Most people want to discuss the team’s performance on the field. They will read my post and comment on it.
If you don’t care, then IGNORE IT and stop launching personal attacks and acting like a child.”
Your ‘discussing the team’s performance on the field’ looks remarkably like the whining of a spoiled brat.
Stop responding to me. I will stop responding to you.
Yes Giradi, let’s give away an entire inning letting .200 hitter in June Melky bat and no hit Molina in a 1-run game! What’s the point in knocking the starter out early by working his pitch count if you give away ENTIRE INNINGS against the weak parts of the pen!
Someone Else
“The Yankees are going to lose games. The offense will go away from time to time. This is a team built around walks and HRs – runs tend to come in bunches or not at all (hey, a lot of the great teams have been built this way). Get used to it.”
you call this a great team?! one home run every other night. can’t score any other way?! Great teams don’t wait for the home run. They manufacture them. This team is incapable of that.
i remeber last year when i went to hughes ml debut he came by with the tin and spoon.
If the team sickens you, stop watching the game
That is such a lame statement that is constantly made whenever you don’t like what someone is saying about the Yankees, especially when it is obvious.
So that was a great inning by the Yankees, where is your positive angle from those AB’s. That no one got their uniforms dirty so they are helping the enviroment by saving water and energy?
will get swept by Texas ?
Don’t think so. The main reason is because everything you suggest turns out wrong. So will this one. Debbie.
that was pretty weak.
Just tuned in…why did Mussina come out after only 6? Close game, would have been nice to get at least one more from your starter. Must be the strict pitch count they have all the young guys on these days?;)
with the way the rotation is right now, you really need to win the games that moose, pettitte, and joba pitch…… and you especially need to win against the rangers
man, this offense SUCKS. We might as well just save everyone some time and give the other team 3 outs without even coming to the plate when the bottom third of the order is due up. This is absolutely pathetic. I try to be a positive fan but seriously, I’m not sure how much more of this I can bear. I want to watch baseball, not sleepwalking.
we better start figuring out a way to hit or boston is going to eat us for dinner this coming up weekend.
6 outs to go, with the core of the Yankees’ lineup coming up. I think they score at least 1.
Well no one bit at my question about the inside the park homer. Maybe you’ll go for this one.
On a 1-10, does the Yankee offense suck? If not, what the heck is up?
You called me a “spoiled brat.” You said I needed “anger management.” You launch personal attacks against other posters and you will get a response. You’re not any “high and mighty” guy because you don’t care. You’ve already proven your level of maturity and worth with your constant personal attacks.
You have absolutely no credibility to judge when you sit here like a child and call everyone a spoiled brat and other insults. Maybe if you respectfully disagreed we’d listen to your ideas instead of when you act like a moron.
Speaking of the Red Sox, out pal Manny needs a new song to introduce his plate appearances. A few nominations:
– “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Door”
– “Keep-A Knockin’”
– “Knock on Wood”
– “I Hear You Knocking”
– “Knock Me Down”
mel (or anyone), any other ideas?
This is where the Yanks miss Bruney.
Texas has the 89 MPH nibler start, then Francisco comes in at 95 and everybody’s late.
We follow Moose’s deception with… Edwar’s deception. Need another hard thrower for the 6th/7th. Hope Bruney makes it back – and has the better control he showed earlier. Veras now in fits the bill, but missing that extra solid pen guy means we’ve got to hold him for later.
“If the team sickens you, stop watching the game
That is such a lame statement that is constantly made whenever you don’t like what someone is saying about the Yankees, especially when it is obvious.
So that was a great inning by the Yankees, where is your positive angle from those AB’s. That no one got their uniforms dirty so they are helping the enviroment by saving water and energy?”
It was a horrible 3 outs.
Every team in the majors is going to lose at least 60 games. This might be one of those 60. But with the Rangers’ pen, and the heart of the lineup still due? I’ll take my chances.
Gardner probably bats next inning, with Johnny stepping in the ninth if they get men on and Melky or Molina are due up next.
Mark – Just a bunch of streaky hitters who can’t hit with RISP.
“You called me a “spoiled brat.†You said I needed “anger management.†You launch personal attacks against other posters and you will get a response. You’re not any “high and mighty†guy because you don’t care. You’ve already proven your level of maturity and worth with your constant personal attacks.
You have absolutely no credibility to judge when you sit here like a child and call everyone a spoiled brat and other insults. Maybe if you respectfully disagreed we’d listen to your ideas instead of when you act like a moron.”
You’re making my point better than I ever could.
I love how people tell you to “stop watching” if you’re upset. You’re upset because you care! You want to see them play well, that’s why you care so much! The people who think they’re so cool because they aren’t upset are the ones who care so much that they don’t watch half the games! Does that make them more of a fan? I wouldn’t think so.
Veras control please control
Veras can not give up any runs here. Need to keep it at 1.
Crud. This game really stinks.
This is why we have three catchers.
ouch that has to hurt
Nick in SF
Knock three times
apparently Young didn’t get his cardio in earlier today and has decided to fit it in now!
You gotta be kidding me , Veras killed Molina
Nice battery work…leadoff triple
not looking good…
Ugh. We can’t lose Molina.
ouch!
wowhe got him in the bad spot! OUCH
Also, Molina is tough as nails.
Jose Veras deserves a beat down for getting crossed up and drilling Molina in the stones.
What’s going on? Game summary anyone? Scores and highlights?
Thanks in advance…at work, no tv/computer.
Lifeless team. Why is it, that at least once a week, this team just looks like they dont want to be there?
even better.
Now I’ve seen it all this year
nice going. take out your own catcher.
No, Someone Else. You’re proving my point.
Yeah, I’m sure proving your point by being upset when someone personally attacks me! Yeah, that’s being a spoiled brat alright! Too bad you don’t notice the fact that as you act more immature and rude, it becomes more and more obvious.
Neil what the heck changed from Murderer’s Row plus Cano? I admit I’m stymied.
Looks like we’re going to have to count on Yadier and the other brother for the next generation of catching Molinas.
Ouch!
who says jeter cant make plays to his left? lol
“No, Someone Else. You’re proving my point.
Yeah, I’m sure proving your point by being upset when someone personally attacks me! Yeah, that’s being a spoiled brat alright! Too bad you don’t notice the fact that as you act more immature and rude, it becomes more and more obvious.”
:yawn:
come on Veras
“Thanks in advance…at work, no tv/computer.”
Posting via ESP???
Moose pitched a good game but is on the hook for the loss as Yankee bats have gone dead, trailing 2-1 in the 8th with the Rangers threatening to get one more.
You have the right to disagree with me. Every right. Go ahead and try to justify why you don’t agree, I don’t mind. But if all you do is insult me and imply that you’re a better fan than I am because you have different opinions, that is rude and you’re not going to get a princely response in return.
How bout “Can You Hear Me Knocking?” for Manny’s new song?
Every team in the majors is going to lose at least 60 games.
You are absolutely correct. Because losing less is just going to be a rare thing anymore.
But when you are half way to that 60 and have given 40% effort most of the season, that is unacceptable.
Great teams, as you mentioned in your previous post, are not just build on walks and HR’s, but also on beating teams that you are suppose to beat and doing it consistently. Then you roll the dice against teams like Tampa and Boston and hope for no worse that .500.
This team can’t even beat Texas, Pittsburgh, Cincinnati, KC, Minnesota, Mets, Baltimore – notice only 1 team has a winning record and it took interleague to get them there. The rest have putrid pitching, hitting, bullpens.
They haven’t even had a chance to get waxed by Detroit, Boston, the famous Angels, Whitesox, and Toronto.
I’m sorry, but three strikeouts or not, I have to walk Bradley and go after Murphy.
Yeah, you’re really looking awesome by yawning in response to my post. That sure is respectful and mature conversation!
“What’s going on? Game summary anyone? Scores and highlights?
Thanks in advance…at work, no tv/computer.”
Texas up 2-1 in the 8th, precariously close to 3-1, Veras in, man on third, one out.
Molina got drilled in the Planters region.
Hey Matt give it a rest. We get it already!
Someone Else
You are as empty and tedious as this game. Knock it off.
Molina should go to the mound everytime to call pitches from now on
I feel like kicking his a*.
great offense tonight so far. more clutch hitting in a season of clutch hitting.
Moose pitched great but if you can’t score it is a problem..
come on guys
veras – strikeouts usually come easier when you throw STRIKES!
The female posters will never understand: that ball hit Molina in the WRONG spot.
And no, the cup doesn’t help against a 95+ mph pitch!
If Veras gets out of this jam… maybe Giradi will flip flop him and Farnsworth. With less pressure, Farnsworth has pitched better for us, and Veras is just so overpowering with that 97 mph fastball and 79 mph curveball.
the golden sombereo lol. he lost his bat quite a few times
That’s 2 outs – 1 more Veras
“Hey Matt give it a rest. We get it already!”
Don’t worry, he’ll likely give us another 10 posts about how immature and rude I am for telling him he needs anger management.
so does he get out of t or does Veras blow it here
Wow, if he can pitch around this, my respect for him will go up ten-fold.
milton bradley’s a jerkoff
“If Veras gets out of this jam… maybe Giradi will flip flop him and Farnsworth. With less pressure, Farnsworth has pitched better for us, and Veras is just so overpowering with that 97 mph fastball and 79 mph curveball.”
I definitely agree with this. Veras has so much more potential than Farnsy.
If the Yankees can get out of this and don’t score to tie the game then I don’t know what to think.
Terry: I can’t empathize with Molina, but I understand it hurts an that staying in the game is ridiculously bad arse.
1 more Veras and you get a happy meal along with Edwar
Matt and Someone -
get a room!
This intentional walk better pay off
There should be some kind of penalty for losing his bat twice in the same AB. Besides the embarassment, as Milton Bradley seems to be impervious to that.
(good suggestions on “knock 3 times” and “I can hear you knocking”)
Brandon- Veras killed Jose’s future babies.
Kenny: Look out Michael, here comes Milton Bradley into the broadcast booth:)
““Hey Matt give it a rest. We get it already!â€
Don’t worry, he’ll likely give us another 10 posts about how immature and rude I am for telling him he needs anger management.
”
Yeah, because I mean, you’ve only launched a personal attack specifically aimed at me with lots of rude commentary. I’m sure nobody will ever be upset about that!
Okay I have a pep talk for the Yankee hitters.
Hey guys. You know how to hit the damn ball. You know you do and we know you do. So get your asses up to the plate NOW and find a way to get on base and get some runs in. Stop acting like baseball frauds. This act is getting real old.
Thanks. Mark.
“Terry: I can’t empathize with Molina, but I understand it hurts an that staying in the game is ridiculously bad arse.”
And if you notice, on his VERY first pitch after tha, he faked a throw to 3B.
YES !
Veras escapes the 8th.
Gardner leading off. Hope he can get on.
Awesome job, Veras.
Is Bob Shepherd back or does this guy just do a good impersonation?
here come the yankees, the speedy ones atleast.
WHEW!!
This game is ours for the taking…let’s go Yankees !
Big escape for Jose
Let’s just agree to disagree on most of the stuff and end this back and forth. We can get agree SOMETIMES as I see from the other post lol.
The last time I saw someone get out of that was when Sizemore was on 3rd with 0 outs against Pettitte in Game 2. What a performance by Veras.
LET’S GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Tremendous
Yankee pitching is great.
i believe it’s just a good impersonation
6 outs, the beginning of the lineup coming up.
Rock on Veras!
oh god what would it take for a rally
You have to like that pitching there…against the heart of the order, at that. All I have to say is…KrazyKyle wouldve been blown out of the water.
This is the Rockies series of 2008
Use Damon to pinch hit.
Rebecca,
Veras gets out of it. On to the Bottom of the 8th!
Come on Brett. Big spot for the first hit. Every day Eddie doesn’t look good.
how about the career first hit right about here…
Use Damon to pinch hit.
No just no keep him for the 9th
injury delay? what happened
“Let’s just agree to disagree on most of the stuff and end this back and forth. We can get agree SOMETIMES as I see from the other post lol.”
I’ll definitely agree that I’m grating, but it annoys me to no end to see 100 posts all lambasting the Yankees’ offense… when it’s obvious that the Yankees’ offense ain’t doing much. It makes this blog much less enjoyable.
I apologize for being rude.
Wow, Guardado hurt? That was fast. He’s been quite injury prone lately it seems.
Can’t blame the pitching at all tonight.
8 innings and 2 runs against the best hitting team in the league.
As it has all year, the pitching on the Yankees has been much better than they have been credited for this season.
To paraphrase an old political commercial, its the offense, stupid!
For whatever reason, the offense just can’t get it going with any consistency this year.
Would be great if they could somehow find a way to pull this one out.
Can this team score 2 or more runs now?
What’s wrong with this guy? Bruised Ego?
That’s one way to burn through the pen:) Just glad to see Frank Francisco out of there. When he’s on, he’s nasty.
Jose (Harry Houdini) Veras has a nice ring to it.
Terry
Pass an 8 pound human through your body before you are sure that the females here can’t relate to the pain.
That being said, Molina is beyond a trooper.
“No just no keep him for the 9th”
Big bats due in the 9th. Low rent bat leading off the 8th. That’s the spot for Damon.
I’m sorry for perpetuating it then too. I understand that you don’t like to see the complaining and stuff, a lot of us are just really into the games and frustrated watching them underachieve.
that’s quick to get hurt!
Ah, the comedic stylings of ER. Good stuff man, really. You should go on the road, open for Seinfeld or someone.
GARDNER PLEASE GET ON
their quota is usually 2 runs a game. so they should be able to score at least one more.
injury delay? what happened with guardado?
pinch hitter damon?
I don’t understand pinch hitting for Gardner here if you didn’t pinch hit for guys like Melky last inning.
Gardner is very patient, and has the kind of speed where if he reaches base, he could steal his way to 2nd or 3rd base with no outs fairly easily. Also, he could bunt for a base hit. With 2-3-4 up after him, he could make a lot happen.
We need to get Damon into the game somehow, I know, but Melky is an automatic out now and Gardner could change the whole complexion of an inning with his legs.
vs Wright
Damon
2 for 3, BB
Jeter
Has never faced
Abreu
9 for 25, 3 HR, 8 RBI, 3 2B
What the hell would Torre have done with Every Day Eddie?
well – there’s JD
Why is there so much fan venom spit in Farnsworth direction? I understand he isn’t dominating the league, but his overall numbers aren’t too bad…about a hit per inning, about a K per inning, decent control and an ERA below the league average.
I actually am asking a real question when I say why all the venom, maybe I am missing something.
Wright has never faced the Yankees.
Never a good thing to hear…
Matt – Damon is 2 for 3 off the guy and is hitting .316 and not making his major league debut. That is why he pinch hits.
F-ing…. that’s two hard hit balls their 1B has snagged today.
We need a damned blast. Dammit!
This is the inning we take the lead Damon, Jeter, Abreu,A-Rod, Giambi. What’s that-about 100M in payroll??
That was the stupidest decision to PH Damon
“Why is there so much fan venom spit in Farnsworth direction? I understand he isn’t dominating the league, but his overall numbers aren’t too bad…about a hit per inning, about a K per inning, decent control and an ERA below the league average.
I actually am asking a real question when I say why all the venom, maybe I am missing something.”
His HR/9 is beyond awful.
Gardner would have beat that out:)
i predict cano will hit a game winning HR in the bottom of the 9th…
One of the reporters needs to ask the Yankees why they can’t beat bad pitchers.
what kind of a swing was that
Wow. Jeter got pwned.
grrr
Oh crap
geez jeter…
That’s true, and I mean the move isn’t a bad one normally, but in a one run game I think Gardner could use his legs to change the momentum very quickly, like bunt for a hit and steal 2nd and/or 3rd. It’s really more of a veteran vs. youth kind of move, but I just don’t like that .245 Melky gets a pass while a guy who does stuff right gets lifted.
Red Sox threatening in the 9th.
Maybe we have to wait for Obama to become President to win the world series again?
Damn!
Close enough (97 million)
What happened to Guardado?
that was a bad looking swing
That was a horrible AB by the captain.
C.J. Wilson’s hittable, but why should that matter against the Dead Bat Society?
Wow that pitch wasn’t even close to Abreu to start the AB.
Have the Rangers had a 2-1 game all season?
Wow. This game is really bothering me. A lot.
What happened to Arod’s prediction of an MVP season for Jeter, so much for that.
That was the stupidest decision to PH Damon
100% right thing to do. You have 6 outs. Damon is not going to be called on to pinch hit for batters 2-6. You have Giambi for the bottom of the order if they get that far. better shot w/ Damon than Gardner.
:shakes head:
Now ARod isn’t going to get a single pitch to hit in the 9th.
On the bright side…
http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/.....age/548808
the rangers manager looks like he should be asking if you want premium or regular on queens blvd
where the hell is this offense??
We may need to find a new SS next year. Jeter is aging before our eyes.
Should we be rooting for a Sox win today?
somebody needs to ask girardi why they can’t score unless its a homerun.
Top of the order went 0-12. Not going to win many like that.
OK, how can you not be frustrated watching Jeter up there do what he just did? This team hasn’t sent any good pitchers at us today, we’re making them look better than they are.
Look, all we had to do was win our own games with TB facing Boston and we were sure to gain ground. We want to at least win 2/3, but preferably sweep this series under these circumstances. If we don’t pull this one out, it will be a huge missed opportunity. There’s no denying that.
It’s almost July. We can’t keep being content with waiting around for the other teams to collapse. We have to win our own games and make the move on the field.
This is why I wanted Damon for 9th inning so question if we need a PH for Molina in the 9th or a PR for him or Posada who comes in ?
Damon a guy that can work counts in the last inning would have been perfect for that. To waste him this inning and know he’s not 100 % healthy was just dumb. Brett w/ his legs alone can beat out an infiled single, Damon can not.
sox mounting a come back
One run game in Tampa.
At least the Red Sox manage to make it a game.
I don’t whine a lot.
Our offense is offensive.
Laura – I couldn’t agree more. I simply don’t understand the trouble with pitchers the Yanks haven’t seen many times. Well, I understand it theoretically, but I’d like to know how other teams fare under similar circumstances. Based on Feldman’s record and ERA, pretty well.
“Maybe we have to wait for Obama to become President to win the world series again?
Damn!”
I thought it was every year that Kentucky won NCAA basketball
Wow, Percival is just falling apart.
I agree with Brandon. Gardner never looked overmatched. He could have laid one down or at least tried.
It’s not even a home-run issue. They can’t hit period. After they whacked around the Pirates, I thought we’d finally see this offense come to life.
And what the F is this? GIESE?
jeter strikes out again! some 20 million dollar ball player! i’m sorry but no amount of .280 hitting, terrible defense and no power is worth 20 million! and his great leadership has really fired up the yankees the last 2 games–not!
oh crap, dan guise? i guess girardi has given up on the game
…Is Joe aware it’s a 2-1 game? Or is this prep for xtra innings?
Nobody can blame A-Rod anymore. He can’t get a big hit when nobody is ever in scoring position for him, let alone on base! How many innings has he led off this last week?
Goddamnit. I have Percival on my fantasy team, he gives up 3 hits and 2 ER, and now he’s being pulled 1 out shy of the save. Blegh.
Wow, even pinch hitting Damon didn’t work. Jeter looks lost.
Jamie Walker shutting down the Yanks. Man when will the misery end.
I think that all the Yankees hitters should be fined $1000 for everytime they fail to have a solid AB. Have the money go to help children with cancer. At least then their lame AB’s will benefit someone.
WEll Giese is pitching the 9th in a close game.After Ponson implodes this week he can be our set-up man.
This is alarmingly reminiscent of Torre’s blind faith in mediocrities like Wayne Franklin and Aaron Small.
Turkey Reuben Sierra
Could it be that they are just not that good this year?
This is the most FRUSTRATING YANKEE TEAM I”VE EVER SEEN!
sigh.
Jeter needs to figure it out! and NOW.
He looks PATHETIC.
Boston coming back against the Rays.
11 pitches and a 1-2-3 inning from the top of our order. Why can’t our relief staff do that?? Maybe we’ll have to depend on the homer again next inning to tie up this game, because g-d forbid, we know how to manufature runs!!
Another stellar day for the horse crap yankee bats. They need to clean shop in the off season and get rid of these lazy hitters. And then tell Jeter to put up or give back his cash.
Look, all we had to do was win our own games with TB facing Boston and we were sure to gain ground. We want to at least win 2/3, but preferably sweep this series under these circumstances.
Lieutenant Obvious – your promotion just came in! Thank you.
Percival looked like he came up lame.
Two outs. Two VERY hard outs.
Troy Percival was just yanked.
Why is Giese in this game? It’s an imprudent move, regardless of the outcome.
No, Nick, but you’re very humorous. I’m on my cellphone but for some reason can never get on yankees.com, mlb.com, or espn.com.
Sorry for the misunderstanding. I should’ve clarified.
I am proud to say i was the first regular to bash jeter this season; glad to see its so fashionable now.
Jamie Walker huh?
Matt -
See, here’s the whining I was complaining about
What is Giese doing in this game?
For some reason Tampa pulled Percy with the tying run on 3rd, 2 outs and a righty up. And put in lefty Howell. Nothing about injury.
Is Ian Kinsler jewish? If so, this is the golden era of jewish players
I agree with Brandon. Gardner never looked overmatched. He could have laid one down or at least tried.
He atleast would have driven the guy’s pitch count, he gets on base and Jetes gets an XBH it’s a tie game, he doesn’t and you still have Jetes and Abreu, instead you waste Brett’s speed in that inning and Damon’s bat.
Let’s not get too crazy with Brett Gardner. It was the right move to have Damon PH in that situation.
The entire team hasn’t hit for days. Some for most of the season. Bringing in Damon, who can reach the short porch, and is one of the few guys actually hitting this season, for a singles hitter isn’t the incorrect strategy.
Great idea Whiff. These guys (Jeter included) need to be held accountable for terrible at bats.
Girardi got away with one there.
This would be an awesome win if they could pull it off.
Routine fly ball off the catwalk is how the Red Sox came back. Unbelievable
The Rays and your fantasy team better have a backup plan. Percival is made uo of cadaver parts.
Vrsce – seems to be the easiest explanation. I certainly don’t have stats on hand to support it, but I feel like this is a very regular theme with the Yankees over the past 5-7 years. And clearly those teams were strong. Oh well, just thinking out loud.
Is Bob Shepard back?
Last chance for the Yanks. If they don’t score here Feldman gets his first road win ever.
Crunch time.
Three outs, one run, we do this. We win. We can win, we WILL win! Be optimistic! For one half inning! Believe we will win and we will!
O my goodness we have a reliever in Giese, even though it wasn’t a 1-2-3 inning!
Looked like Percival pulled something in his leg.
Someone else,
What would you like us to do? Praise them for lackluster efforts over and over again. Its not even that they suck, its the way they look doing it. I would much rather see some younger hungrier guys then the Abreu’s and such being mediocre.
It pisses me off when everybody keeps thinking a HR is going to save you there, sometimes a bunt, an error caused by speed or a single can have bigger effects in a game, 2-1 and Alex is not going to get anything to hit here.
For some reason Tampa pulled Percy with the tying run on 3rd, 2 outs and a righty up. And put in lefty Howell. Nothing about injury.
Wasn’t pitching well and he was just traded to the Yankees because he has the ability to blow a lead.
well, now we’ll see what this team is made pf
well, now we’ll see what this team is made of
Man that would have been a lame out.
“The Rays and your fantasy team better have a backup plan. Percival is made uo of cadaver parts.”
I know, was just hoping he’d hold up for another week or two
I never pay much for closers. So R. Soriano, Percival, Torres it is.
Nice one Crash DAvis
Red Sox lost.
Last chance for the Yanks. If they don’t score here Feldman gets his first road win ever.
Consider it done. Congrats to Cy Young Feldman for pitching what will be his best game of the year against the monterous Yankee thunder. Not many can shut down a team of such power.
THIS IS BEYOND RIDICULOUS.
That’s 2 hard balls straight to the 1B and 1 to the 3B.
I think our odds of winning just shrunk by like 80 percent.
Unfortunately with Matsui out of the lineup and Giambi homerless in his last 40 or so AB’s there’s nobody to protect A-Rod. Doesn’t help when there’s never any pressure with nobody on base in front of him. This team is waiting for a home run and it’s not going to come if you’re trying to hit it.
Yankees lost. 7 games out. 3rd place. Looks like my $1000 on them winning the AL East is gone.
come on
are they chanting ‘Let’s go Mustache’?
so we’re going to lose 2-1 again beautiful decision PH Damon in the 8th
Wow, they are just knocking the crap out of this guy.
This is disgusting.
this is just gross…cannot keep losing these games
This is not a playoff team. If they can’t beat the likes of that Texas pitcher, no way they beat someone who is actually good.
:shakes head: Posada doesn’t look good vs. the high heat.
Think Joe needs to go back and focus on Engineering and not managing.
It really just defies all logic that this sort of thing keeps happening. I don’t know if its bad luck, bad karma, the will of the almighty, or the curse of A-Rod, but this just shouldn’t be happening.
Brandon you give them too much credit. It wasn’t going to matter if Damon hit or didn’t.
*sigh*
“This is not a playoff team. If they can’t beat the likes of that Texas pitcher, no way they beat someone who is actually good.”
Like Johan Santana?
PH damon has nothing to do with the entire anemic offense. This is laid bare on the entire team. Not just damon.
This is the kind of game you have to win . 2 runs over 9 innings at home. We’ve lost like 3 or 4 of these kinds of games here so far. You have to win one run games at home, especially ones this low scoring. It’s not over yet, but if they don’t pull this out it’s going to be a tough one to stomach.
I don’t understand how you criticize Girardi pinch-hitting for a rookie with no power in a one-run game with a guy who has been a catalyst the whole year.
Nice of the Mets to wait until tonight to start sucking again.
What a pathetic performance by the Yankee offense. They wasted a great performance by Moose and loose to a scrub pitcher.
Better get the bats going tomorrow night. They need to come out of this team slump.
Well, they’ve only won 24 of their last 39.
4 hit by the Rangers…. pathetic
frak
That too familiar, sick feeling
well good night
Very disappointing game. This offense really is offensive
I hate baseball right now. Baseball clearly hates me, too.
I hope they are embarrassed because I most certainly am.
8 runs in four games. Screw this whole baseball team.
Well, Joba knows his job tomorrow. Pitch a shutout against the best offense in baseball and hope this anemic offense can get him a run.
Simple enough.
Another pathetic offensive performance by the most overrated offense in baseball.
Cash is going to have a big rebuilding job in store for him in the off-season. They need as many as 7 hitters in the off-season.
Just an absolutely awful offensive team. Probably the worst Yankee offense since ’89-90, the real dark years.
Forget worrying about the Red Sox and Rays. Let’s just hope this team can win a game in this series.
With the way this team hits, that’s going to be a tall order.
I guess this is just a mediocre team.
if you are intersted they posted the video of Gardner’s SB and Giambi’s triple on gameday
What a frustrating game.
I would have liked to see if Brett’s AB in the 8th could have changed the game instead we took it away for Damon’s cold bat. Again BEAUTIFUL DECISION !
time to blow up this team
WTF are some of you talking about? They’ve beat plenty of pitchers that are considered excellent pitchers.
Well that is it. Our wonderful NY failures are crawling slowly back to .500.
Ah what do they care. They are still collecting their 20 million paychecks.
Glad to see they care so much about winning.
This team is so bad… they should be ashamed. Dont worry though, Jeter will have his usual table at the China Club and should be able to make it there by midnight. Its not like he cares if “his” team is nothing more than a punchline…
And they look like they don’t care. If they can’t care, I have trouble caring.
UGH soooooooooooooo frustrating… we obviously can’t afford to flush away good performances by Moose, Joba, or Pettitte… GRRRRRR
I was going to eat a celebratory Moose Bar and now I have to wait another 5 days. GRRRRRRRRRRRRR
Not happy.
Waste of my life.
Complete waste.
This team is horrible.
At least I didn’t waste time on my Celtics.
Disgusting.
Chicago White Sox were terrible. Guillen called them out. They started winning. Detroit started the season terrible. Leyland publically called them out. They started winning.
Why does that happen? Teams get lethargic and need some kind of negative motivation to get going? Then why doesn’t someone call these Yankees out?
the big boys on the yanks can’t hit.. blame it on gardenr or melky blah blha blha..
jorge, arod, giambi, abrue, jeter are doing nothing… wow a solo HR 2 days in a row.
Moose will never win 20 they blew this game, moose pitched as well as he can…this team does not come from behind EVER……
they are just not that good, not very tough between the ears…the place sounded like a morgue tonight..
the sux lost but battled to the end…..again 8th in baseball in runs scored with this pitching staff they have to be top 3 and they are not getting it done… the injuries are BS all teams have them…
Molina is great defensively but he cannot hit… Jorge cannot throw…
at least we are playing some younger guys for a change…
Someone should punch Kevin Long in the back of the head when he isnt looking
I understand being bitterly disapointed that they lost 2-1 to the Rangers. But saying they should blow up the team? They are still 5 games over .500, which is a heck of a lot better than last year. It’s just beyond reason that the bats won’t eventually heat up. There is too much talent here.
Look, if our pitching was getting belted around, I’d be seriously concerned. But despite the loss of Wang, our pitchers are really doing quite well.
And Brandon, I don’t understand why you have so much faith in Gardner to “change the game.” He’s a rookie. A fast-as-hell rookie, but Girardi made the right decision. If Gardner was 2-3 or something, that’s one thing. But he was 0-3 with a K. Damon can steal a base too.
The worst part of this is there is no solution to the offensive problems. Cano and Cabrera are pretty much a lost cause. Jeter looks done. Giambi, Matsui and Damon are always injury concerns. What do you do? Trade for a bat? But who? And with what?
This is going to get a lot worse before it gets better.
Get this in your head my fellow Yankees fans HR are not the only thing that wins games !!! When Damon grounded out there I guarantee you Brett was wondering wait a minute do you know how fast I am ! Instead we waste an AB and keep digging for that HR until that mentality leaves this doesn’t change !
Well it’s a good thing Cano, Giambi and Abreu were well rested for tonights game. That plan worked out great.
Brandon,
Really, get serious. Johnny Damon is the best hitter on thee team this year.
You are falling way too in love with minor league players.
They don’t hit with RISP Brandon. If Gardner reaches base, which he didn’t do all night, how does he score?
That decision had ZERO to do with the outcome.
I’ll take Damon over Gardner in a one run game 100% of the time.
Let’s not overrate yet another prospect. There is already too much of that being done within the Yankees. Let’s not extend it to the fan base.
Someone should punch Kevin Long in the back of the head when he isnt looking
Manny should be here soon.
It all starts with Jeter.
He needs to get on base. When he isn’t on base, we get destroyed. he should be on 2-3 times a game, whether by hit or by walk. He grounded out to short three times this game.
He has stopped hitting the ball the other way. He needs to get back to that. It’s sad watching someone who is so talented, so iconic, and so great at going the other way begin to play so poorly.
I feel like curling up in a corner staying there for a month.
yay.. a stuart little explosion of hysteria. I needed a laugh.
shapeshifter you are a troll. Like Long swings the bats. Go back under your bridge.
Matt – see what I mean? This is like kindergarten all over again.
It’s getting to the point if it’s not a HR they don’t score !
I feel like buying a Sham-Wow and hanging myself with it. They can clean up the blood without wasting paper towels.
But I guess I’ll try to cling to hope for Joba’s start.
And the reality is that this whole year has been about 2009. What I want to see, even more than a playoff appearance, is our young pitchers settling in, the bullpen remaining consistently reliable, and the key hitters who will be around next year not looking 500 years old.
the inconsistency with this offense is unbelievable. who cares that you can beat a team by 9 runs when you can only score 5 runs total in the next 3 games.
you simply cannot waste good pitching performances by moose like this…maybe he will tear into them; because Girardi wont.
I just don’t know where to start with this team…..
NO good team would let this Great Hitting Texas Team beat them
at Home, while keep them to only 2 runs!!!!!!!
I have never seen a Yankee team behave like this.
Even Steve Balboni would have gotten some sort of a hit to win this one….
i just dont see why giambi did not bunt there. yes he can hit a homerun but a lefty with a sweeping breaking ball is not the best to homer off
Oh darn they couldn’t hit that homer, and no hits the last 3 and 1/3 innings and against one of the worst closers in the AL.
The Rays Win, The Rays Win!!
How long will it take the Yankees to fashion their team and farm system like the Rays? The other Florida team went from last to first and beat Clemens and the Yankees in the WS.
Wow… tough loss.. we gotta start hitting
“yay.. a stuart little explosion of hysteria. I needed a laugh.”
I know what you mean. The adults disappear when the Yankees lose.
so his OBP should be .667?
Sj a little over the top with the negativity…..
there offense is absolutley underperforming for sure but the dark days!!!!!!
Cano needs to turn it around again I just do not get that guy, his discipline at the plate and clutchness are terrible..
great another 1st victory on the road for an opposing pitcher.. My one question is when are we going to get on this offense that we have been hoping all year is going to get it going???
8th or so in runs scored and terrible with RISP will not get it done… The RISP has been poor almost all year…
When will these guys get it going!!!!!!!
Jeter looks bad. But to say he looks “done” especially after the power we saw him flash in Pittsburg, is ridiculous.
Well guys that was fun to be optimistic about that GARBAGE.
Now we know what it is like to be a pirates fan
Get ready for some “You have to tip your cap to Scott Feldman, he was better then we were tonight” comments. Probably Girardi and Jeter. Those post-game pearls never get old.
“Someone should punch Kevin Long in the back of the head when he isnt looking”
Somebody would probably swing and miss.
SJ if that’s the point then don’t even call him up, Why is Brett Gardner here, is he not suppose to atleast get a full game ! he got on base you know what happened when he was in scoring position Jetes choked at the plate !
I’m not quite understanding why those of you who keep talking about taking your bats and balls and going home, don’t you just pony up and actually do so.
I mean is anyone forcing you to watch the games so that you can’t turn them off and go and something that you feel is more worthwhile?
The Yankees look old and done for. We may have to start thinking about 2009.
SJ44: Yup, it’s the offense. Not Farnsworth, the bullpen, or CMW/Matsui/Hughes/a rotating cast of thousands on the DL. It’s that consistently inconsistent offense.
Keep making excuses guys. When you pay 200 million, I expect better performances.
Guess Joba has to pitch a shutout tomorrow lol.
Cano actually has been having better ABs. His first one today against Feldman was very quality. He isn’t chasing pitches nearly as often. He’s more focused at the plate. He’s going to catch fire in the 2nd half.
Melky’s looking like more of a lost cause. But I need to see more to see if the defensive downgrade (especially in terms of the arm) is worth the possibly better offensive performance of Gardner. And the latter is no sure thing.
A frustrating loss, to be sure. But it’s not the end of the world. We are FIVE games above .500. Please, try to remember that.
Don’t look now but since their 7 game winning streak they are 4-6 in their next 10. Who have they played, you may ask?
Cincinatti- Last place at the time
Pittsburgh- 2nd to last place
Mets- Huge disappointment, 2 games under .500
Texas- 1 game over .500
In fact, they have been 1-3 at home during that same stretch.
You have to win at home. It’s as simple as that. You can’t lose a 2-1 game at home to a team that has the worst pitching in baseball.
They have nobody to blame but themselves. This is the “weak” portion of their schedule and they are not only not getting it done, but half the time are putting up weak efforts in doing so. It doesn’t matter if you “wake up” to play the good teams if you’ve buried yourself against the bad and mediocre ones.
“Cano needs to turn it around again I just do not get that guy, his discipline at the plate and clutchness are terrible..”
You can’t blame Cano. He was just begining to heat up when Girardi decided he needed to rest a game.. Nevermind the other 80 chances he could have rested when he’s been slumping.
SJ over the top with negativity? Where have you been during every loss this season and last?
Don’t worry though. He’s a reverse jinx. He hated on Damon, Mussina, Pettitte, and Giambi this year already and they are having career years.
Now it’s Cano’s turn. Keep saying trade him SJ44. Keep it up.
even if they trade everyone that does not mean in 2009 they will win everything. it could be the oppisite. its good what they are doing now, slowly moving out the vets and injecting new talent
The Yankees look old and done for. We may have to start thinking about 2009.
You might have something there.
“The Yankees look old and done for. We may have to start thinking about 2009.”
See ya. Get lost then.
“How long will it take the Yankees to fashion their team and farm system like the Rays?”
You mean be in last place every year so you get the number one draft pick for, like, eight years in a row.
andy phillips has been designated for assignment once again
““Someone should punch Kevin Long in the back of the head when he isnt lookingâ€
Somebody would probably swing and miss.”
LOL
I’m DONE…..DONE….DONE. DONE….DONE…DONE…..
I’ll check back in next Monday.
“Let’s not overrate yet another prospect. There is already too much of that being done within the Yankees.”
SJ: I am just curious – which prospects in particular do you think are overrated, or have been in the past?
When they hit they don’t pitch and when they pitch they don’t hit – this is a mediocre team that is in transition.
Who cares about pitching when your offense is a bunch of duds.
“Well guys that was fun to be optimistic about that GARBAGE.
Now we know what it is like to be a pirates fan”
really? the yankees haven’t been over .500 since 1992?
Billy-
In all seriousness, at what point do you fire a hitting coach? If they “dont swing the bat” as you say, why do they even have hitting coaches? If they “don’t swing the bat” as you say, why have they been fired in the past? So quick to call me a troll but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about
Whoever thinks its the offense is a retard.
You can’t get into winning streaks starting the likes of Rasner, Ponson and Giese. And having Hawkins, Ohlendorf and Ramirez in the pen.
As you can see, losing Wang won’t change a thing with this team. It was never about the pitching. Never has been, never will this year. This whole season, as we expected, hinged on the offense, and despite the pitching being way better than we expected, that still holds true.
They are losing 80% of the games they lose because they are scoring 1 or 2 runs against mediocre pitching. If they had last year’s offense, they’d be in first place by 5 games right now.
“A frustrating loss, to be sure. But it’s not the end of the world. We are FIVE games above .500. Please, try to remember that.”
That’s what scares me. We’re ONLY five games above .500 and Torre isn’t the manager.
new lineup
1. damon lf
2. jeter ss
3.giambi 1st
4. arod 3rd
5.posada dh
6. abreu rf
7th. cano 2b
8th molina catcher
th gardner cf
rconn23 my thoughts excatly, if they just dismantle not only would we be in last, the fans would not be happy.
Fredo-
I literally spit out my water when I read your response. Well done. Well done.
“How long will it take the Yankees to fashion their team and farm system like the Rays?â€
Nomination for dumbest post of the night. The Yankees would need to get in a time machine and start losing like five years ago.
“I’m not quite understanding why those of you who keep talking about taking your bats and balls and going home, don’t you just pony up and actually do so.
I mean is anyone forcing you to watch the games so that you can’t turn them off and go and something that you feel is more worthwhile?”
See, Angel, but it’s -they- who are the ‘real fans’, and us who realize that the season is 162 games long are the morons, lol.
Ron
Games above 500 don’t mean anything.It’s games ahead in the division that matter
2-1 was the score 2-1 all they needed was a baserunner and get ther guy to 2B for a chance, they took it away from Gardner. All he did was work the count all game and he can’t even get an AB in the 8th to do it vs Texas ! Texas pitching ? seriously !
If the point of tonight’s callup was to see what Brett can do for the Yankees then the Yankees failed, to pinch hit him in 8th in a crucial situation wouldn’t you want to see what he can do in that pressure spot before the Red Sox series. I’ll be back later now I’m pissed off. Seriously PH Damon to see if he can hit one out while his bat is cold !
The Yankees always overrate their own prospects.
It is why you trade them at their highest value for established stars.
Kennedy and Cabrera should have been gone last winter.
btw, I’m not jumping on the ‘season is over, it’s about 2009 now’ bandwagon but this offense has to figure it out and soon. The really frustrating part is the pitching has been better than I remember it in a long time, so the offense doesnt even have to be the best in baseball anymore. Just above-average would be okay, and we can’t even get that…seems to be stuck on horrendous.
Where are all the guys who were killing Girardi yesterday for sitting all his so called slugging left handers against Ollie Perez? They all played tonight and against a righthander no less and did squat.
You have guys like Veras going out working out of runner on 3rd, no out jams in a 1-run game and they can’t even get a guy on base with 1-2-3 at the plate in front of A-Rod in the next half inning! Momentum means nothing for this team it seems. 7-0, 4-6.
This team is a tease, and nothing more. They should be better, but they aren’t. Maybe this is just what they are, a maddingly frustrating team that blew its chance to be great in the final season of Yankee Stadium with inconsistency and at times, lack of effort.
Tyler Clippard is the definition of the overrated pitching prospect. The Yankees and their fans insisted his command and feel for pitching would allow him to survive his flyball tendencies and mediocre stuff. Well, when he came up, I saw a raw, inexperienced pitcher lacking elite command. The Yankees saw the same thing, and traded him for a guy that might yet be a useful piece of the bullpen.
Hughes, on the other hand, was universally acclaimed. The Yankees were saying nothing that recognized experts like BP and BA were saying. So that’s a different case. And I still have a great deal of faith in Phil.
“Billy-
In all seriousness, at what point do you fire a hitting coach? If they “dont swing the bat†as you say, why do they even have hitting coaches? If they “don’t swing the bat†as you say, why have they been fired in the past? So quick to call me a troll but you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about”
You want ARod to revert to 2006 form?
Fastest way to do that is to ditch Long. ARod credits Long 100% with his 2007 season. Long fixed his swing, and the rest was history.
It was so much less complicated being a Yankee fan when everything could just be blamed on A-Rod, the bullpen and Joe Torre.
“The Yankees always overrate their own prospects.
It is why you trade them at their highest value for established stars.
Kennedy and Cabrera should have been gone last winter.”
For what? A bag of balls?
What exactly could the Yankees have gotten for Kennedy and Melky alone?
Well, maybe we aren’t going to the playoffs this year. There is always that possibility.
And if that’s the case, what I want to see is positive things so I can get rightfully excited about 2009.
What a shame, to pay all that money to go to Yankee Stadium, and see a bunch of future Hall of Famers [ none on the Rangers] play like a bunch of flamers!! All-Star game, new stadium next year, more costly seats, and the Yankees will probably resign Abreu, Giambi,Mussina, Pettitte, Farnsworth, for another year of tired old baseball!!
This Yankee offense is nothing more than a ghost of the past. Sad but true. Every once in a while you see flashes of greatness. But that’s all they are. Flashes.
Some guys start raking and it’s all Long’s work. Some gets in a slump and Long takes the hit. Kevin Long is the hardest working coach on the Yankees. A hitting coach on a big-money team is the most difficult in baseball. Bring in whoever you want and you think things would change? Go for it buddy.
Again the micro manager sits his best hitter and they lose a one run game. Damon ignites the offense from the leadoff spot, and they sit him
Maybe another mediocre pitcher can dominate us tomorrow and you guys can be optimistic. Maybe Pete will make more excuses for why Jeter sucks and can’t be a leader. Maybe Jeter will make more excuses tipping his hat to other teams trash and saying they will turn it on. And maybe we can look at how Boston is for how to play with passion and attitude and we can look at the Rays for how to play with athleticism and hunger.
I’ll give us this year to purge the overpaid crap and next year I better see some youth and accountability.
“Where are all the guys who were killing Girardi yesterday for sitting all his so called slugging left handers against Ollie Perez? They all played tonight and against a righthander no less and did squat.”
RIGHT HERE!
Cano is hitting .281 against LHP and .221 against RHP. He also sees the ball well coming from Perez as he’s hitting .400 against him. Not to mention the previous week he was hitting over .300 and had 2 hrs. It was a dumb move to bench him.
Giambi was hitting .500 against Perez
Abreu was the only player you argue to bench that day.
It’s July now, not April. It’s time to start messing around with the “experimentation.” If they really believe they can contend, it’s time to really look at what they have.
Melky has earned time on the bench, but he keeps getting run out there. His average is down to .245, and .200 against LHP. He’s looking bad doing it too. That won’t cut it anymore.
Jeter has had one of the worst seasons of his career. His avg, obp, slg, hr, sb, everything except range factor are down. He’s on pace for a career high in GIDP and looks like he’s losing bat speed.
Cano has been inconsistent. We know he has the talent, but does he have the discipline and focus? I don’t know. He’s gold glove caliber defensively, but he loses focus too easily.
And what about some of these young arms in the minors? What’s the point in running Hawkins out there if you claim to have guys who are better? They need to stop carrying guys to ‘see what they have’ if they’ve proven they have nothing!
If they are building for 2009, which I think they are, then they’ll do nothing about this and probably frustrate us, especially if they miss the playoffs by 2 or 3 games because of games like tonight. However, if they think they can contend, which they still are capable of doing, it’s time to stop messing around with Hawkins and Cabrera and such, and to treat players as they should be based on their performance.
Angel, I’m not going to take my ball and my bat and go home because I won’t need them where I’m going if we lose this way tomorrow night.
Death by Sham-Wow. Scary, but absorbant.
“Maybe another mediocre pitcher can dominate us tomorrow and you guys can be optimistic. Maybe Pete will make more excuses for why Jeter sucks and can’t be a leader. Maybe Jeter will make more excuses tipping his hat to other teams trash and saying they will turn it on. And maybe we can look at how Boston is for how to play with passion and attitude and we can look at the Rays for how to play with athleticism and hunger.
I’ll give us this year to purge the overpaid crap and next year I better see some youth and accountability.”
Or what? You’ll slam your fists and whine some more?
*stop messing around
See, Angel, but it’s -they- who are the ‘real fans’, and us who realize that the season is 162 games long are the morons, lol.”
Yea, dude. You’re a “real fan”. Go pat yourself on the back some more. No offense but “real fans” don’t whine and try to make fun of other die hards by calling them “morons”. You do realize every fan takes losses differently right? Who the F are you to be talking down to other fans? Shows no class but what can you expect here?
I think the Yankees hoped that Kennedy would either prove himself in the big leagues, and become a legitimate centerpiece for a trade, or show that he belonged. Really, he didn’t do either. Cashman gambled with him, and so far, he lost.
Kennedy gets much less of a break from me than Hughes. Hughes has the tools to succeed; Kennedy needs to be the exception to the rule. He could be the second coming of Paul Byrd, which would be quite nice. He might also be too unremarkable to survive in the Yankee rotation. We’ll have to see.
Kennedy’s much older than Hughes. That’s very important when evaluating the two.
And with regards to Horne, the dude, while talented, doesn’t have a great feel for pitching and has a length injury history, including the TJ surgery that got him into the Yankee organization in the first place. He has a lot of work to do to avoid becoming another Steven White.
Betances and Brackman are in a class all their own. Immensely talented, potential dominant aces, but worlds away from matching that potential.
“For what? A bag of balls?
What exactly could the Yankees have gotten for Kennedy and Melky alone?”
Just go away, troll. Melky is a future all star.
Brandon
Unless Gardner got on, stole 2nd, 3rd and home, he wasn’t scoring tonight with the way the others were swinging the bat.
I mentioned earlier that the team, at least once a week, looks like they don’t want to be there. As someone mentioned, they look old and bored. We all care more than them…you think they are sitting there talking about what went wrong? No…they are making plans for tonight, collecting their checks, and will come back tomorrow for that inconvenience called “a baseball game”. If you look at the line-up, who has really been hitting lately? Giambi has cooled…Damon has cooled…Posada has cooled…Jeter has looked inconsistent and average all year long without any pop, Cabrera is an automatic out (same with Molina), Abreu hot/cold/hot/cold no inbetween…I’m just at a loss with this team’s lack of desire. I’d like to see someone ream them out for once.
As far as the PH Damon vs. let Gardner hit issue, I guess I can see the rationale behind both sides – Damon is a professional hitter after all whereas Brett is making his ML debut, but I will say that to PH Damon because he’s got a better chance of hitting one out is what the Yankees need to kind of get away from, especially right now as they’ve been living and dying by the longball way too much, to their great detriment. Gardner’s ability to, say, bunt for a base hit and then steal 2nd in a 1-run game is exactly why I’m excited he was called up, to provide that energy on the basepaths that often sparks rallies.
But really it is all a moot point right now, unless Brett could have stolen 3rd and home also. Because the Yankees don’t hit with RISP so it wouldnt have mattered if it was him with the bunt or Damon w/a double. The failure to score Giambi tonight was really a particularly ugly manifestation of this team with RISP all season long.
Hopefully, the Giambi debacle will be the low point and the straw that broke the camel’s back. Because that was just embarrassing. When JASON GIAMBI triples, you HAVE to bring him around to score.
put gardner in CF tommorrow and give melky a day off. put Jorge behind the plate. Bat Gardner last. Put Damon in LF..
see if the offense can do anything…if this continues they need to look into dumping matsui or Damon or ABreu if they will accept a move… IF they fall out of it they need to get more athletes…
the pen for the Yanks has been suprisingly good imagine hitting and the rotation would be the problem!!!!!!!!
the talk about giambi, he has been decent but the guy is hitting in the 260′s not exactly 310 etc.. he makes $21 mill……
again when you lose a game you should not it hurts because you are going to lose games…
Now the haven’t seen him BS…It is BS they haven’t seen, stop the guessing on pitch’s..
Cano 240 and change and same as melky and jeter 280 or so, they are just not getting it done….
I hope this next wave of prospects are just as good as this Ian Kennedy guy. The future looks bright! Thank God we didn’t move him for a Haren or Sabathia.
I understand that situational hitting has plagued this team for a few years now, however never did I think back in January that it would be this inconsistant….I mean it’s flat out bad, it’s either feast of ( more often that not ) famine…..And to think my biggest concern was Mussina…..Man, did I get the wrong ####……
Watching Melky swing the bat is utterly painful.
“I hope this next wave of prospects are just as good as this Ian Kennedy guy. The future looks bright! Thank God we didn’t move him for a Haren or Sabathia.”
Yeah, cause, like, the As were totally willing to deal Haren for Kennedy, lolz!
Accountability. The one thing missing on this team that you almost need to motivate millionaires and lazy young guys like Cano. Bad managing decision like the Perez lineup, and Girardi doesn’t get hounded at all about it. Bad at bat like Melky has had almost every time lately, and he never is sat down and given a day off.
They sat Cano for a day with Gonzalez while he was slumping to send him a message and he responded by taking off and hitting really well afterwards. It’s time to cut this nonsense out and start taking control of the team.
Girardi sits Damon tonight- makes no sense to sit your best hitter – one run game, Damon could ignite the offense from the leadoff spot. If the Yankees needed to play Gardner they should have let him play for Cabrera.
Damon and the best players should play everyday. Girardi puts a lineup out there that looks like hes playing out the string and looking at players for next year. This team has had the same guys for the last few years ,its obvious who can do what. Play the best guys -get some consistency and continuity
LOL! Now the Yankees are ‘lazy’ and ‘lack motivation.’
Really, please, keep the comedy coming.
“Whoever thinks its the offense is a retard.”
Yeah, because the pen really cost us back to back demoralizing losses to a stiff like Oliver Perez and some guy named Scott Feldman.
“Girardi sits Damon tonight- makes no sense to sit your best hitter – one run game, Damon could ignite the offense from the leadoff spot. If the Yankees needed to play Gardner they should have let him play for Cabrera.
Damon and the best players should play everyday. Girardi puts a lineup out there that looks like hes playing out the string and looking at players for next year. This team has had the same guys for the last few years ,its obvious who can do what. Play the best guys -get some consistency and continuity”
Damon’s foot is hurt. Health concerns override lineup consistency, I imagine.
“Yeah, cause, like, the As were totally willing to deal Haren for Kennedy, lolz!”
Just go away already, troll. Everyone knows Kennedy was a top 15 prospect in all of baseball and Haren was traded. Beane asked for Kennedy and Hughes.
It’s time to end the Melky experiment for a little bit here. As they said, they are 3 deep in CF in this system, they don’t NEED him anymore. Gardner is more disciplined, a heck of a lot faster, and an igniter. Austin Jackson seems to be a 5 tool player and possibly an impact player. Tabata even has tremendous potential.
Melky is what he is- average. Average bat that’s been below average this year. Average speed. Barely above average range. His only real tool is his throwing arm. He’s a guy with less talent who’s always surprised people by performing, and now he’s been a bit exposed. It’s time to see what else you have until Melky proves he deserves it.
Joe could have pitch hit Damon for Molina instead. There is a guy named Chad that could have come in and catch after that.
““Yeah, cause, like, the As were totally willing to deal Haren for Kennedy, lolz!â€
Just go away already, troll. Everyone knows Kennedy was a top 15 prospect in all of baseball and Haren was traded. Beane asked for Kennedy and Hughes.”
Are you stupid?
No one trolls tonight like “Someone Else”.
So, did Moose bring back the “60 feet, 6 inches” line tonight during his postgame interview?
I would have.
“Betances and Brackman are in a class all their own. Immensely talented, potential dominant aces, but worlds away from matching that potential.”
I wouldn’t link the two together. Brackman has succeeded in big-time D I baseball while Betances has shown very little improvment since turning pro. Now he’s rocking an 8.53 ERA in three GCL games. No GM in his right mind would look at his as a key piece in any deal.
I’m liking Moose so much more this year. Saying on the postgame the lack of run support isn’t frustrating for him.
I think its a bit early to know if we would have regretted Haren for Hughes and Kennedy. Let’s also realize what the D-Backs traded. They traded two current starters in the Oakland rotation, their right fielder, and more. So why would Beane haven taken Hughes and Kennedy alone?
“It’s time to end the Melky experiment for a little bit here. As they said, they are 3 deep in CF in this system, they don’t NEED him anymore. Gardner is more disciplined, a heck of a lot faster, and an igniter. Austin Jackson seems to be a 5 tool player and possibly an impact player. Tabata even has tremendous potential.
Melky is what he is- average. Average bat that’s been below average this year. Average speed. Barely above average range. His only real tool is his throwing arm. He’s a guy with less talent who’s always surprised people by performing, and now he’s been a bit exposed. It’s time to see what else you have until Melky proves he deserves it.”
I’m a ‘Melky believer’ but even I think he might need some time in AAA to get his stroke back. I’m assuming he has options remaining?
Jeter does not consider this a “slump”. Pitchers pitched well, thats it….of course he’d say that
“Just go away, troll. Melky is a future all star.”
You sure you’re the original V??? Usually it’s the 12 year old facsimile who says laughable stuff like Melky is a future allstar.
Brackman is a future Ace.
Betances can go either way. I wouldn’t worry about him since the earliest you would ever see him would be 2011.
Moose has a legit reason to be angry at his teammates tonight. Not only have they killed him this year with poor defense, but they’ve lost him 2 games recently in which he’s pitched his heart out, and they’ve scored 2 or fewer runs against mediocre pitching. The one against KC and now the one against Tex. When you have 3 guys in the rotation with a sub 4 ERA, which would have been 4 if Wang weren’t hurt, you expect to win most of your games.
Funny, isn’t it. If this team had its normal offense, the pitching has been so good that we’d be a world series contender. Instead, we’re a dissapointment. Not as much as the Mets, but still a big one.
Mussina was pretty honest in the post game and took responsibility for the game, in particular the leadoff walk that scored. Pay attention, Santana. No blame on the offense who won games when he didn’t pitch well.
Too bad about their wasting another good start, though. Let’s go Jobamania!
Billy, that is true. But Brackman has thrown even fewer pitches in a Yankee minor league uniform than Betances, and Bentances is both younger and much more raw. I don’t care if Betances pitches badly, I just want him to stay healthy. With that stuff, he has to eventually succeed. But health is a much greater concern.
the clowns are out tonight..
yeah the lineup yesterday, not playing Damon blah blah blah..
jeter almost hit it out of the infield today..
the bottom line is no one is hitting above expectations except maybe Damon..
Jeter, abreu, arod, giambi, posada, cano, and cabrera no one is hitting up to expectations.. no one…
clowns name 1 guy who is doing better then could be expected…
This might jinx him but Veras has looked really good and appears legit……
Definitely co-sign on the Joe could have hit Damon for Molina post. Is it just me or does he seem almost averse to using Moeller? He didn’t start him yesterday despite his slowpitch softball #s off Perez, didn’t PH for Molina today and then bring Chad in to catch…what gives?
See that’s what my problem is. You have this blind faith of mediocre players earning big money. Living in the past, letting past accomplishments make todays decisions. Pete does it every day with Jeter. Everytime Jeter lays down a bunt, its “why is he bunting, he is third on the Yankees in hits”. That makes no difference.
And I have no problem with losing. What I have a problem with is the way they are losing. They look lazy and unathletic. Going through the motions. They are not having productive at bats. They are not doing the fundamentals that a high school team does. Maybe you can sit up on your high horse and excuse that, I dont.
If we are going to lose, I would much rather watch young hungry guys making mistakes because they hustle and out of inexperience. I would love to see our guys show some emotion. A pitcher calling out the hitters for wasting good performances. Maybe not publicly, but you know dang well its not happening in the clubhouse. Jeter tips his cap, and goes and spends his millions he earned in the ’90s.
This team is a joke. Bottom line.
“Sometimes teams are just better than us”…Jeter says. It seems like throughout the year, the other teams have been consistently better. Maybe its time for the Yanks to be the better team? I dont know…just a theory for DJ to consider.
He might have some options left still. He hasn’t had enough time in the major leagues I think to have earned the right to contest being sent down to the minor leagues. Of course you have to see if Gardner can hold down the spot in his absence, but Melky looks like he needs a kick in the rear end to jump start him again, he’s in a complete nose dive.
Dana Eveland and Greg Smith are also lefthanded. In this era, left-handers are much more valuable than righties of even slightly better talent. So the value of an Eveland or Smith is waaaay greater than that of Kennedy. Hughes is a different case. But Oakland brought in a pile of talent.
Matt, there was no “anger” from Mussina. He said his mistake was the leadoff walk that scored. He also knows that he’s pitched games that he’s stunk and got the win.
“Definitely co-sign on the Joe could have hit Damon for Molina post. Is it just me or does he seem almost averse to using Moeller? He didn’t start him yesterday despite his slowpitch softball #s off Perez, didn’t PH for Molina today and then bring Chad in to catch…what gives?”
Um, probably because a pinch-hitter is less valuable with 2 outs than with 0? Whaddya think?
Today was the start of a the long slide down the slippery slope to 3rd place by september. Tampa Bay wins the division and Boston takes the wildcard.
These guys show no hunger for winning, no chemistry and they look sluggish all around.
I am and will remain a Yankee fan forever, but I have written off this season; lets just get rid of all the overpaid and aging over the hill players, get a new manager and get excited about 2009.
At least we have the Giants in October. In the meantime, I’ll tune out. good night
with that payroll NOBODY should be better
Matt
Moose wasn’t angry. He said he has given up 4 in the first inning and the offense got him the runs back for the win so there is no reason to be frustrated when the offense couldn’t score him more runs today.
“He might have some options left still. He hasn’t had enough time in the major leagues I think to have earned the right to contest being sent down to the minor leagues. Of course you have to see if Gardner can hold down the spot in his absence, but Melky looks like he needs a kick in the rear end to jump start him again, he’s in a complete nose dive.”
I really thought his April was the start of a breakout, but alas, I was wrong.
Captain excuses probably has the right outlook. Other team played better. No it’s not a slump. Came up against some good pitchers. Just have to go out and player better.
He probably means every word too. They can’t let any one game bury them. They probably have to just come back with the attitude that tomorrow is the beginning of a look streak of wins.
Brackman is a monster of a prospect. But how many guys of that size have been great big leaguers? Size can be an enormous asset (see Chris Young), but also makes the odds of injury that much greater. If Brackman has major arm issues, or doesn’t hit the ground running, he doesn’t have as many chances to figure it out as a Betances. I place the odds of each of them being a productive member of the rotation at about even, though for different reasons.
I love how frustrated fans feast off of each other when things are going bad…LOL….Get a grip people.
“With that stuff, he has to eventually succeed.”
I hope he does but he doesn’t see the Bronx until 2012 at the earliest. Some of the so-called prospects need to buckle down and work at it. Maybe they can learn something from someone like Eric Hacker, who has missed two years due to injuries and he still has a fire in him. He has looked great for Tampa and Trenton, especially tonight.
Exactly Pauly. It’s the way they’re losing, not the fact that they are. They’re not playing solid games and giving themselves a chance to win.
It’s time for there to be some accountability on here. If you don’t do your job, you have consequences, such as being demoted in the lineup or sitting out a game or two. If I go to work and joke with my co-workers all day and don’t get my paperwork done, then I get fired or lose pay. Likewise, there should be consequences for athletes as well.
Man, SAN DIEGO, with a 5 spot vs. the Rockies.
of course Melky has options left..
yeah put Gardner in every day he is proven on the big club after all he stole a base…..
again Melky is not doing what I expected. 280 15 80 but he hits 9th and makes $460 k…Let’s put the blame where it should be first of all Cano makes $3 or $4 mill and is a higher cieling guy, then get to the big dollar guys and tell me they are performing up to expectations….
It is not blaming Dan Giese for the yankee situation that is moronic..
Maybe this is just an off yr. they have had very limited miraculous wins and no huge performances… the tigers have been obliterated by things but seem to have some juice the Yanks have no juice…….
Yankee fans are beyond delusional if they think that Girardi is going to be fired anytime soon. His job was to lead this transition to a younger, less veteran-reliant team, and win as much as possible in the meantime. He hasn’t always made the best decisions, but he’s as new to managing as Hughes is to pitching big-league baseball. So sorry, but Joe G. is going to be here for at least another two years, baring the team just being horrible (and I mean losing 90 games horrible) next year. Mediocrity with signs of progress will not get Girardi fired, and nor should it.
“Exactly Pauly. It’s the way they’re losing, not the fact that they are. They’re not playing solid games and giving themselves a chance to win.
It’s time for there to be some accountability on here. If you don’t do your job, you have consequences, such as being demoted in the lineup or sitting out a game or two. If I go to work and joke with my co-workers all day and don’t get my paperwork done, then I get fired or lose pay. Likewise, there should be consequences for athletes as well.”
???
I don’t think they’re ‘joking all day’ and not doing their job. They’re doing their job and failing. Do you lose pay if you make a mistake on your paperwork?
Also, your job is 100% different from competition. If you were competing vs. your coworkers for who got the most paperwork done, you might have a better comparison.
But Stuart, that’s the problem. Melky is not hitting .280/15/80. If he puts up those numbers, we’d be ecstatic to have him at the bottom of the lineup. His numbers look more like .240/10/50, which is very below average and he’s having horrible at bats at the same time. Gardner worked a bunch of full counts and showed he’s an igniter when on base. He looks more polished than Melky at this point. Even if Melky might be better eventually, he’s not right now, and having him in the lineup is hurting is daily.
They are now 2-38 when trailing after 7, I think. The law of averages says that can’t continue for an entire season.
This team will get better. I don’t know if they can be better than Boston or Tampa. But this is at least an 88-90 win team.
too many minor league fans. Dont get your hopes up, very few will make it to the yankees and be productive. this is not a high school team where the JV eventually replaces the varsity by attrition or graduation
““Definitely co-sign on the Joe could have hit Damon for Molina post. Is it just me or does he seem almost averse to using Moeller? He didn’t start him yesterday despite his slowpitch softball #s off Perez, didn’t PH for Molina today and then bring Chad in to catch…what gives?â€
Um, probably because a pinch-hitter is less valuable with 2 outs than with 0? Whaddya think?”
Yeah, but who has a better chance of getting a hit, Damon who has been our best hitter most of the season, or Jose Molina? Since you have another catcher on the bench and it is a 1 run game, why not do everything you can to win it?
also, there’s really no need to be condescending…we’re all fans here.
Everyone has got this wrong… its not one thing thats killing the yanks.. its a bunch of things… They just cant get all working at the same time… no vibe…
Get a grip on what? 8 hits in two day against mediocre pitchers. have a grip on it and its not good.
I’m not going to rip Girardi. He is trying to make moves to get these buffoons going. When you make that much money, the onus is on the players.
Seems like you cats who make excuses are working alot harder nowadays.
well, what normally happens when a team under achieves? Usually teams replace the manager- might be too early for that but IF I were Joe Girardi I`d be playing my best lineup EVERYDAY
Tigers 42-40
Yanks 44-39
Mionr League fans, I know that you have to be taken seriously on all you say. Just looking at your SN tells me that.
I wonder if facing so many lefty pitchers in a row is screwing up the Yankees bats. It seems they start heating up, then poof, its gone.
I don’t think Girardi helps things with his creative lineup changes, but that shouldn’t affect their offense that much.
The beginning of the game seems like they were going to stomp all over the starter, then they changed the approach and got themselves out.
At least we got to see a LONG home run hit by A-Rod. That was a bright spot in an otherwise anemic offensive night.
When the Yankees take batting practice, do they ever do against lefty pitching?
It just doesn’t make sense when we know all these guys can hit, but it seems that rather than picking each other up, they drag each other down.
Someone Else,
By failing, they are NOT DOING THEIR JOB. Bottom line is that they are being paid well to do a certain job and its not getting done. Make excuses all you want.
And I guarantee Jeter is not bothered by the last two losses. He will not do any extra work. He will not talk and try and mentor any of the young guys. He is not pointing things out to Melky, Cano, and Gardner. Because he is Mr. Been There Done That.
I hope that Gardner will play center a few days. I don’t see him replacing Melky, but having Melky sit and watch someone play his spot may help him get his head around what he is doing wrong.
Something has to start changing to get the offense going.
Well then Goodnight guys. Maybe tomorrow they will score 9, but I wont hold my breath.
I hope that Gardner will play center a few days.
I hope he can get a full game before someone wants to pull him next time.
“I wonder if facing so many lefty pitchers in a row is screwing up the Yankees bats. It seems they start heating up, then poof, its gone. ”
Avg vs left
Damon 2.90
Arod 3.13
Posada 2.78
Abreu 3.16
Jeter 2.78
Giambi 2.57 (.421OBP)
Cano 2.81
Some notes about the above.. Cano and Abreu hit significantly better vs lefties than they do righties. Giambi has a much higher OBP vs lefties than he does against righties.
Maybe Girardi should put some stock into these stats too instead of only giving the opposing pitchers stats value.
“And I guarantee Jeter is not bothered by the last two losses. He will not do any extra work. He will not talk and try and mentor any of the young guys. He is not pointing things out to Melky, Cano, and Gardner. Because he is Mr. Been There Done That.”
Love the guarantee regarding Jeter’s work ethic and desire to win from some random person on the internet.
I don’t think we lost because Girardi pinch hit Johnny Damon for the guy playing his first MLB game ever. At the least, it’s a logical, defensible move.
Uh oh, more bad news for Yanks bats,
tomorrow’s starter, Kevin Millwood, has an even
HIGHER e.r.a. than Feldman
“And I guarantee Jeter is not bothered by the last two losses. He will not do any extra work. He will not talk and try and mentor any of the young guys. He is not pointing things out to Melky, Cano, and Gardner. Because he is Mr. Been There Done That.”
holy crap..
I don’t think we lost because Girardi pinch hit Johnny Damon for the guy playing his first MLB game ever. At the least, it’s a logical, defensible move.
Nick here’s my point in this one why was Brett Gardner leading off tonight ?
There will be no ‘stache for Jeter. He’s the newest Gillette Spokesmodel.
http://money.cnn.com/news/news.....NYM141.htm
I wish PA would hire a new troll coach. These new minor league trolls have no concept of troll fundamentals.
I guarantee you, Jeter was distracted because his parents were at the game. They want grandkids, not more Ford Edges and not “Friday Night Lights” DVD’s. Jeter will pick it up when the folks leave town. Don’t scoff, I’m guaranteeing this.
Brandon, he was leading off to give Damon the game off and to see what he can do. He didn’t get a “play the full game” pass from anybody. Lots of regulars get a game off and then pinch-hit late. Johnny Damon, even coming off the bench, was a better bet to get on base or even slap one over the fence. You play the percentages and sometimes you still lose. Who knows what Gardner would’ve done.
good we thing we brought Gardner up.. wow he helped out huh?
tomorrow’s line up should be
Damon DH
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Gardner LF
Who knows what Gardner would’ve done.
Exactly my point, this is the mentality that I can’t stand w/ our prospects. Brett was given 3 AB and then pulled for a hitter who has .191/.231/.277 as a PH line, this was a BS start either give him the full game to see what he can do or don’t start him at all !
Man, SAN DIEGO, with a 5 spot vs. the Rockies.
we would get swept again by the rockies.
I know the Yankees have been hitting against lefties, but not consistently. Remember Abreu being sat down earlier in the season with the reason being it messed up his swing when he faced lefty pitchers. Maybe there is something to that, they adjust and get a bit off from it.
I don’t see any problem with lifting Gardner from the game at that point. Damon had been hitting really well, and he has some power. I don’t agree with a number of Girardi’s management calls, but really didn’t see anything wrong with that one.
I’d like to see Melky sit for a bit though. Hopefully that is part of the plan with Gardner being up. Melky just doesn’t look good at batting right now. Sitting him, allowing some clearing of the mind, might help him out. Besides, Gardner needs regular at bats, if Cashman is to be believed.
I almost forgot… how great was it seeing Giambi get a triple? I was almost expecting it to start snowing when he did that.
the yanks should a high obp in the three hole, posada or giambi to give arod more baserunners
Nick
Far be it from me to scoff but if what you say is true, you better call Charles and Dorothy Jeter quick and invite them to SF.
They currently live in the NY area and we can’t be sure they are planning to leave town anytime soon.
pat, that information doesn’t really help with my guarantee, do I’m going to have to disregard it. Because I can’t give up on Jeter and I can’t give up on the season.
Maybe they just want to have dinner with Minka Kelly and they’ll get off his back. At least until the AS break.
So if the hitting coach, manager, and pitching is not to blame, then it is the players…. no wait, they are allowed lulls in the season which is what they are going through now.
So how come unlike other teams it affects 1-7 in the line up rather than 2 or 3 guys. Where is the catalyst that picks up his team mates when they are slumping.
Oh I know it is the DL issues. That is right, Arod can’t hit if he doesn’t have all this protection. Jeter can’t get on base if Damon isn’t playing. The bullpen can’t pitch because Wang it out.
Seems to me that the poor decision to put together this team starts with Cashman, then goes to poor managing by Girardi – who despite the NL manager of the year, is NOT a good manager, then goes to Kevin Long, then goes to the scouting department, then to player evaluation.
“this was a BS start either give him the full game to see what he can do or don’t start him at all !”
Well, I don’t know about that. At that point in the game, the most important thing is to give the team the best chance to win, not to run Gardner out for another at-bat as a test case.
If Gardner stays in the game and whiffs or grounds out or whatever, people are asking why Damon didn’t pinch-hit. So Girardi is second-guessed either way, unless the guy who bats gets a hit. Just because Damon didn’t get on base doesn’t make it the wrong move.
I don’t see how getting pinch-hit for at the end of the game makes is a BS start!
I’d rather see Melky getting the day off and Gardner getting a shot at Center. Have Betemit DH and Damon playing left.
Nick,
I put out a challenge for using Manny and ‘knock’ in the same sentence.
So far murphydog is the clubhouse leader. Actually, he’s the only one who did one.
You up to it?
“I hope that Gardner will play center a few days.
I hope he can get a full game before someone wants to pull him next time.”
He got pulled for one of the leagues leading hitters. Relax.
Pete,
What’s the team record when you’re off? They seem to lose a lot when you’re not blogging live. I dunno, maybe they miss your acerbic commentary and jinxing.
“Uh oh, more bad news for Yanks bats,
tomorrow’s starter, Kevin Millwood, has an even
HIGHER e.r.a. than Feldman”
That’s actually funny.
Bout time ER. Only took to July.
No mention of Gardner at all by ESPN news
if you really want to be depressed read this article..
but hey let’s trade for another 34 yr old. If this guy is right it could be a bad few years..
2008 May Be Yanks Best Chance for Years
By TIM MARCHMAN
July 1, 2008
Three months ago, anyone claiming that a four-game Red Sox-Yankees set, culminating in a nationally televised Joba Chamberlain start, would be the second-most interesting series in the American League East this week would rightly have been written off as a madman. As July opens, though, the attention of the baseball world is fixed on St. Petersburg, Fla., where the defending world champions are attempting to wrest the division lead from the Tampa Bay Rays.
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As much attention as these two series are getting, though — and they more than deserve it, especially with the Rays defending first place with top starters Scott Kazmir, James Shields, and Matt Garza — the frightening thing, at least for those accustomed to enjoying the long-established order in the East, is how much they portend for the future. The significance of the week is less that Boston and Tampa Bay are warring for first while the Yankees are trying to edge their way in, but that there’s a good chance that this is how things will be for the next several years.
One figure should give a good idea of the reason why: $159 million. That’s what the Rays will have to pay to keep left fielder Carl Crawford and first baseman Carlos Pena through 2010, Kazmir through 2012, Shields through 2014, and third baseman Evan Longoria through 2016. It’s about half what the Yankees owe Alex Rodriguez, and it will carry all of these players through their primes. Kazmir, 24, may be the best pitcher in the league. Longoria, 22, is hitting as well as David Wright and should develop in the same line. The rest are All-Star-caliber talents. And the Rays owe none of them anything remotely like what they’re worth.
What’s still more impressive is what’s behind them. Center fielder B.J. Upton may be the team’s best player, and he’s years from free agency, as are Garza, catcher Dioner Navarro, and starters Edwin Jackson and Andy Sonnanstine, who have pitched a combined 197.2 innings with a 4.46 ERA. All of these players are between 23 and 25; between them they’re making about $2 million, and they won’t be making much more next year. And in the minors, the team has three potential frontline starters — David Price, Jake McGee, and Wade Davis — as well as power-hitting shortstop Reid Brignac and Tim Beckham, another shortstop and the first overall pick in this year’s draft.
Good as the Rays have been — and they could improve, as no one is seriously overperforming; Crawford and Pena are hitting at about the league average, while shortstop Jason Bartlett has yet to raise either his on base or slugging average above .300 — they’re going to get a lot better, starting next year. Their young players are going to move closer to their absolute primes, and their low payroll and embarrassment of young pitching will allow them to trade for, or even sign, anything they need. What we’re seeing this year is less a Cinderella story than the emergence, a year early, of a team in the vein of the 1990s Indians or the Moneyball A’s.
The Yankees would, in any case, have a hard time competing with this, not because of any failing on their part, but just because they are, with noted exceptions such as Chamberlain, old. Derek Jeter, Bobby Abreu, Johnny Damon, and Hideki Matsui are all 34; Andy Pettitte and Jorge Posada are 36; Jason Giambi is 37; Mariano Rivera is 38, and Mike Mussina is 39. Most of them are making more than the Rays’ three highest-paid players combined, something fans like to think doesn’t count but is very much on display whenever a call is made to the bullpen. But staying in the running against not just the Rays but the Red Sox, who are run much as the Yankees are but more efficiently and with more players in their primes, is going to be extraordinarily difficult.
In all, this poses a real question for the Yankees, one this week’s games should go some length toward answering: How hard a run should they make this year? They’re very much in the race, and however good the Rays may look right now, they haven’t felt the pressure of a real playoff run before. There’s also an argument to be made that this could be the Yankees’ best shot for a while; as their old-timers leave or collapse over the next two years, the Red Sox should keep clipping along at their usual pace while the Rays fill holes with top-rated prospects making the league minimum and watch players such as Upton bloom into their full potential.
For all that, though, there is a scenario where Phil Hughes and Ian Kennedy blossom next year, where Robinson Cano and Melky Cabrera fulfill all their potential while Chamberlain wins 20 games and minor leaguers Austin Jackson and Jose Tabata spring into the majors fully formed as if from Athena’s brow, and where the Yankees can match the Rays and the Red Sox nearly young player for young player while bludgeoning them with their massive payroll advantage. However likely this is, going for it all this year would almost certainly mean risking it — and with it, the team’s chances of competing for the next several years in a division that looks even more brutal now than it did three months ago.
David Robertson,
lol. Seriously though, didn’t watch the whole game, but by the looks of his first 2 AB, he does have a good eye.
They’ll give him his props on ESPN when he solves the doping issues in cycling, heads off the potential NFL labor issue, and leads U.S.A. basketball to gold in Beijing.
mel
I’ve got time to kill while I wait for clothes in the dryer. If you explain the Manny and Knock thing to me, I’ll play.
ha, mel, I got wind of your challenge and I posted this during the game:
Speaking of the Red Sox, out pal Manny needs a new song to introduce his plate appearances. A few nominations:
– “Knockin’ on Heaven’s Doorâ€
– “Keep-A Knockin’â€
– “Knock on Woodâ€
– “I Hear You Knockingâ€
– “Knock Me Downâ€
mel (or anyone), any other ideas?”
“Knock Three Times” and “I Can Hear You Knocking” were then suggested.
Just make a joke with ‘Manny’ and ‘Knock’.
Only murphydog did one, but it was good:
“Regarding Manny being Manny and the night he knocked down Boston’s George Costanza….”
I can’t believe there more bread jokes than Manny jokes.
I was expecting at least one knock-knock joke.
stuart – I wouldn’t worry too much about the Rays. Of all people, I think Navarro is their leader in average (.313) so that says a lot. Their pitching is great, but honestly how could they compete with the Yanks if next year our top 3 are: CC, Wang, Joba (with Pettitte possibly coming back for 1 more). They wouldn’t be able to.
We have the closer edge and a crap load of prospects to fill the middle relief, maybe a year down the road. Let Tampa Bay enjoy their run then they can go back to losing.
Gardner, albeit 0-3, looked awesome out there.
Nick,
I only only the first one.
Knock knock.
Sorry, but this challenge has knocked me for a loop, which is also what Manny did to Boston’s traveling secretary.
Who’s there?
Ack. I only know the first one.
Manny.
russell you are dreaming. the rays just signed there 1st round pick Beckham there last 1st pick but they have had so many.
David Price from Vandy is a stud, they are loaded.
they are winning now with 3 RF’s, Iwamura at 2B and Bartlett at SS. Yes pj Howell is like 6 and 0 with some saves and Percival is not a long term solution but they got numerous numerous studs….
they have a 1B hitting 220, and sonnestine appears to be a resourceful junk baller, they if healthy can be good for a long time….
Ok.
X. Knock knock.
Y. Who’s there?
X. Manny.
Y. Manny who?
X. This is an internal matter.
manny who?
Nick
“Knock Down Drag Out” Weezer
“Knocks Me Off My Feet” Stevie Wonder
Manny, who the hell do you think you are? You can’t be knocking Sully upside the head, ya moron.
:p
But the power of the ‘stache got a triple!!!
The Yanks will reload with the likes of Texeira and Sabathia.
stuart is scared of the big bad Rays.
Booo hoooo.
Prospects are just that. Prospects. There are no guarantees with Price, Beckham, etc. How did that stud Baldelli do? All those pitchers they took high?
I guess Manny wanted to knock a few dollars off the cost of those tickets and got a little carried away.
Thanks pat and mel. Good times.
This makes the sting of tonight’s loss a little easier to bear while I await delivery on the Sham-Wow I will hang myself with if we keep losing.
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Random paranoid and worrisome thoughts of the night:
1) What happened to Melky?
Other than his defense, Melky’s most impressive attribute when he came up was his plate discipline. I recall being so impressed that a kid his age was so selective and walked so much. I figured that made for an excellent foundation as a major league hitter, and that more power would come as he matured. Instead, he has completely lost his plate discipline! Lately he is worse than Cano when it comes to being selective with pitches, and he doesn’t have Cano’s raw talent to fall back on. He seems determined to just give his at bats away.
2) Is anyone else concerned that the catcher we just signed to a four year deal, and the “real captain” of our beloved Yankees may no longer be a catcher? On the bright side, at least that would mean Cashman won’t have to bid crazy money on Texiera in the offseason, since first base will finally be filled.
3) While I’m impressed that Jeter actually improved in the field this year, I’m concerned that his hitting seems to have become a problem.
4) I hope Molina has a few kids already, because he may now be barron after taking that Veras fastball to the cup tonight!
Old Goat: well done!
Guys,
Thanks. Yes, it’s tough to laugh through the tears.
Looking forward to Joba taking the ball tomorrow.
Assuming Damon, Melky, and Brett play tomorrow with Damon leading off, where do you stick Brett?
Where do you put him in the lineup if Damon DH?
Manny needs to be a Yankee so he can either knock in the runners in scoring position or knock out the fans who whine about it not happening.
Melky is not a hitter. Never was a hitter. They missed the boat not trading him for help. Hopefully some sucker team still thinks hes a CF.
pat,
That’s right. There’d be no knock on Manny if he were a Yankee.
Actually I was pretty impressed with the plate discipline that Cano was showing tonight. Have you noticed that he isn’t swinging at first pitches nearly as much?
I think Melky is pressing now, which is a good reason to sit him down. Clear his head. Have him look at only his good at bats that were rewarded with hits. Generate some positive thoughts, channel those thoughts into visualizations of him hitting the ball.
Posada is nursing a bad shoulder for the season. He also doesn’t seem to catch Mussina very often. He will not start as many games this year as catcher, but he should be back next year in that role.
As far as Jeter is concerned, he has been doing better, but is probably out of wack from that Cabrera fastball to the hand that was the start of the decline.
McCormick thought opportunity was knocking, instead it was Manny.
Old Goat,
Cano’s definitely battling at the plate. Did you see that first pitch curveball to Cano for a called strike? I guess they thought he’d bite, cuz you know he ALWAYS swings at the first strike. Looks like he reads the blog!
Mel, I’d be willing to bet that Gardner plays center and Cabrera sits tomorrow and maybe on Thursday. Of course, much depends on whether or not Damon is able to play.
By having Gardner play LF and give Damon a night off, Girardi diverted some of the “is Gardner here to replace Melky” talk that was sure to come. If he gives Melky a rest Tuesday night, Girardi can write it off as Gardner spelling the outfielders in general, not one in particular now.
So Damon leadoff, maybe put Brett 9th?
pat,
Joe may be able to fool Melky, but he can’t fool the LoHud guys who’ve been calling for action.
Mel, if Cano keeps putting together long at bats like he did, he will come around. I wonder if Long told him he would be fined if he swings at the first pitch. I don’t think he was swinging at any first pitch tonight.
Old Goat,
Cano’s done really well since the PH HR.
Maybe Melky DOES need a mental health break. His hitless streak continues.
He won’t be fooling anyone but he can tell the media that Gardner gave Damon a rest so his being in NY isn’t only about Melky.
Deniability in the media with evidence to support it is the sign of a well run organization.
I think Tuesday’s line-up might look something like this:
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A-Rod 3B
Giambi 1B
Posada C
Cano 2B
Betemit DH
Gardner CF
Night all. Last one out, shut the lights and lock the door.
Hey Pete,
saw you & the BP crew at Foley’s, thanks for the heads-up.
Well,I was looking for tickets for tomorrow’s game, and you know what happens then. You look so hard for tickets, you give up on some of them, you find other tickets, and then you still get the original ones, leaving you with two too many. Now, I still need to receive the last two, but they’re paid for, so I should get them soon enough.
So, is anyone interested in two tickets for tomorrow?
pat that line up makes no sense, first of all melkys gonna start. and 2nd of all betemit would not DH, then u lose a utility guy and a defensive first baseman late in the game..
damons gonna dh and gardner in lf, stop thinkin gardner is god..
ESPNewS is not gonna mention bret gardner.. sry guys, hes not a HUGE prospect..u guys over hyped him so bad, i wish i could send john kruk this link and see how pathetic u guys r
You mean as pathetic as a trolling juvenile that pretends to be a Yankee fan, Aaron? Does something that pathetic really exist?
pretends to be a fan? BS, i live in ALbany and go down there once a month and travel sometimes to see them play. but im a fake fan, ure an idiot, sry if I speak the truth and don’t get obsessed with another Bubba Crosby, maybe a lil better..
Aaron, the Bubba Crosby comparison is way out of line. And don’t they speak English in Albany?
offence is stink.why they can’t beat the pitcher whose era over 6.
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