Game 88: Red Sox at Yankees
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YANKEES (45-42)
Gardner LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi DH
Betemit 1B
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Mussina RHP
RED SOX (52-37)
Ellsbury LF
Pedroia 2B
Drew RF
Ramirez DH
Lowell 3B
Youkilis 1B
Crisp CF
Varitek C
Cora SS
Masterson RHP
Mike Mussina (10-6, 3.87) vs. the Boston hitters
Justin Masterson (4-2, 3.75) has never faced any of the Yankees.
Notes: The Yankees have lost five of their last six and nine of their last 14. … The Yankees are 23-22 at Yankee Stadium with losses in seven of the last nine games. … The bullpen has been terrific over the last eight games (29.1 innings, 3 earned runs). … Bobby Abreu has 3 hits in his last 18 at-bats. … Robinson Cano’s last walk came on June 15. … Brett Gardner is 1 for 13 with two walks, four strikeouts. But he has stolen two bases and scored three runs. … Jose Veras since June 5: 15.1 12 1 1 8 14. … Edwar Ramirez (even I have to admit) has been pretty good lately: 6 1 0 0 1 8 over his last four appearances.
A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT TO MIKE MUSSINA: Manny Ramirez is 16 of 36 with six home runs and 14 RBI against you since 2004.
Walk him.
A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT TO THOSE YANKEE FANS ON THE LEDGE: The Yankees were 44-44 after 88 games last season and were 9.5 games out first place. They won 11 of their next games and never looked back.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 1:21 p.m.: No decision yet on whether Johnny Damon will go on the DL. That could come later today. … Your fourth OF at the moment? Wilson Betemit. … Jorge Posada is a little under the weather or otherwise might be playing first base.
UPDATE, 3:44 p.m.: The game is going to start on time as the skies are clear.
UPDATE, 3:50 p.m.: Joe Girardi didn’t provide much information on Johnny Damon. It seems like they could wait until tomorrow or Tuesday to decide whether he goes on the DL.
I skipped med school. But Damon had trouble taking his shirt off and could barely lift his arm above waist level without wincing. Playing baseball before the break seems unlikely. Brian Cashman indicated that if Damon was disabled, they would likely bring up a pitcher because of all the rain in the forecast.
UPDATE, 3:55 p.m.: The Stadium has been full of moths the last three days. Whatever it is moths do (hatch?), it must have just happened. The birds have shown up to eat the moths. So it’s like watching a National Geographic special from the press box.
UPDATE, 3:59 p.m.: Brett Gardner’s first big-league assist was a nice one as he gunned down Dustin Pedroia going to second. Saved them a run, too, as Drew followed with a double.
I hope Gardner hits because he’ll be a fun player to watch. The Yankees badly need some athletic players. They play like a slo-pitch softball team half the time.
Meanwhile, Brett called me “sir” today and I quickly put a stop to that. “Pete” is fine or “Hey, jackass” or whatever. But not “sir.” I’m not that old.
UPDATE, 4:04 p.m.: Hey, Moose hit Manny with a pitch with first base open. Atta boy, Mike. Beats a two-run homer.
UPDATE, 4:06 p.m.: It’s really not a complicated game. Don’t pitch to the guy who murders you and strike the next guy out. That Stanford education at work.
UPDATE, 4:29 p.m.: I am declaring this a Yankee victory. When The Big G scores from second on a single, that is one of the sure signs of impending victory.
So go out for dinner, enjoy a movie, take a nap. This game is over.
UPDATE, 4:38 p.m.: Who knows what will happen later on today or whether he will make the All-Star Game? But you really have to hand it to the Moose. He has a 3.75 ERA at the moment. Nobody, not even him, thought that would be the case on July 5.
I know people have an impression of him based on what they see on TV and his sometimes sarcastic answers. But Mike is a good guy who represents the team well, works with the young guys and works dilgently at being a good pitcher.
UPDATE, 4:58 p.m.: The Moose remains a genius as he hits Manny again.
Meanwhile, some guy in a Red Sox jersey is being hauled out of the upper deck by security (”Dudes, I was wickeed hammered,” he’ll tell his buddies Sully and O’C later.) So of course everybody stands up to watch. Never mind that Mussina is pitching to J.D. Drew in a 1-0 game.
It’s like passing a car accident. You don’t want to slow down and look. You know it’s silly. But you still do it.
UPDATE, 5:43 p.m.: Incredible work by the Moose so far. 6 4 0 0 1 5. Be nice if they get him another run or two to work with. That doesn’t seem like too much to ask.
Jose Veras warming up. But I would think Moose at least starts the seventh. He’s not to 90 yet.
UPDATE, 5:51 p.m.: Here is why you can’t all fired up over HBP stats (which some people do). There have been five HBPs today and not one of them was intentional.
UPDATE, 5:53 p.m.: Nice professional at-bat by Gardner. Get to 2-1 and drives in the run. Patient, good compact swing, didn’t try to do too much with the pitch. 2-0 Yankees.
UPDATE, 5:55 p.m.: Veras for Moose. No idea whether Moose wanted to continue, but he was only at 89 pitches. The next three Boston hitters are 0 for 6 against him today.
How do you take a guy out who has a four-hit shutout going in a game you really need to win? Joe Torre does that and people would be marching on the Stadium with torches and pitchforks.
UPDATE, 6:02 p.m.: But wait, Joe Girardi is a genius! Veras has allowed one run in his last 16.1 innings. Very impressive. Maybe something is wrong with Mussina.
Krazy Kyle and Mo are next.
UPDATE, 6:21 p.m.: Krazy Kyle came out to Taking Care of Business. Yeah, that makes sense.
UPDATE, 6:28 p.m.: Catchers are like offensive linemen, they earn every dime they make. Molina is lucky he wears that helmet-type mask. That ball caught him flush on the side of it.
UPDATE, 6:45 p.m.: Now this isn’t what anybody expected. That was the first run Rivera has allowed in a save situation this season.
UPDATE, 6:48 p.m.: That’s seven HBPs in this game. Amazing. None of them intentional, either.
Mariano has no control. It’ll take a break for him to get the save here.
UPDATE, 6:54 p.m.: Wow, great game. 2-1 Yankees. Win. No. 261 for Moose.
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Sam Borden
oh boy……
GB SP vs Yankees lineup, if ever a game for Brett to hit in , it’s today. If ever a game for the offense to open up a can of whoop a.. it’s today. If ever a day for Moose to walk Manny it’s today.
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If ever a GIDP for Jetes to kill a rally it’s today
How’s the weather there?
Is another day of rain delays prolonging the misery in store?
no Posada? With Damon, and Matsui out Posada should be at DH and Giambi should be at first
Patrick Bateman,
Why don’t you go look at Handley Ramirez AA stats! Austin Jackson at the same age is doing a good job mirroring them so far and we all know how good he turned out! Also he skipped AAA and started his next season with the Marlins.
Bob – the weather is overcast and drizzly right now. There is a chance of thunderstorms this afternoon. Same weather for tomorrow.
Posada should be DH with Damon and Matsui out. put Giambi at first and sit Wilson
Difference is last year the Rays weren’t ahead of us too.
Posada should catch Moose… but if he wants Molina so bad, Posada could play 1st, too.
I don’t get why Gardner is leading off? He is a rookie, why not bat him 9th, bat Jeter leadoff (he’s always been a good leadoff hitter and it will cut down on his GIDP) and bat Cano 2nd, where he might get a few more fastballs to hit with Abreu and A-Rod behind him? I mean, it seems like Girardi is just asking for an 0-4 day out of the leadoff spot.
Also, Pete, you bring up where the Yanks were last year, but it took an AMAZING second half by this team to get to the playoffs because of that hole and this pitching staff/banged up and inconsistent offense hasn’t shown us they have a run like that in them. Plus, the league, as a whole, is much better. Besides Seattle and maybe Kansas City, where are the “can’t lose” series the Yanks have ahead of them?
Posada should be DH with Damon and Matsui out. put Giambi at first and sit Wilson
Posada had horrible, not even good, just terrible AB yesterday, I was there he pissed alot of people off in my section. The guy basically was swinging for the fence again I don’t understand why he would do this wild swinging after taking 2 breaking balls that could have been a sac fly. It’s amazing how bad his ABs were yesterday. Betemit is going against a RHP kid in Masterson, the sinker is a contact pitch, Betemit LD % is at 27, so when he hits he hits it hard and chances are vs Masterson he will hit.
I have read and have been thinking maybe if things do not turn around real soon we need to move abreu down in the order and put Giambi in the 3rd slot??? What do you think?
Abreu is hitting 277 but not with anything near the punch Giambi is.. THe thing about Giambi hitting 3rd is his lack of speed but his OBP is over 400 and maybe move abreu down to 6th or something like that…
I agree Posada DH and Giambi at 1B would be the best lineup today but maybe Girardi feels Giambi is getting worn down etc….
things look bleak now but it is a long season, I just hope if things go south Girardi tries some different lineups and Cashman sells some of these parts, abreu to the dodgers or anaheim or look into moving some of the moveable parts that are not long term for the yanks..
Has Damon been put on the DL yet?
thanks.
For all of you who keep insisting on using last year as your security blankie you need to wake up. This team is poorly managed, inconsistent, over-rated, overpaid, lazy, full of excuses and plays poorly against good teams. This isn’t 2007. Assuming that history will repeat itself just because you want it to is idiotic.
dan I
That’s interesting, the Jackson, Hanley Ramirez comparison. Striking how similar they seem to be in AA ball. Actually, if you project out (which I know can be useless but fun anyway) Jackson could come away with much better numbers than Ramirez had in a full season in AA ball. The only difference is Ramirez had a few better seasons at the lower levels than Jackson. Austin had a great year last year between Charleston and Tampa, but his previous year was very average. Of course, that all comes with growth. I think, right now, in my eyes, he is the prospect I am most excited for.
Gardner is taking Damon’s spot in LF, but I don’t think he should take his spot in the batting order. I think he should be in the 9th spot and Jeter should lead-off with Melky or Robbie batting second.
Posada could use a day off. He hasn’t looked great at the plate lately.
Arod should hit third. It gets him up in the first inning, and the “clean-up spot” only happens once a game if that. If you bat him third he`ll get more at bats as well
Oy Moose: For the love of G-d, don’t pitch to Manny!
Molina cannot hit but man he is a phenomenal defensive catcher. he is throwing out over 40% of the runners…
against fast teams like tampa and the sux Molina is going to play alot this yr. because of Jorge’s shoulder…Moose gives up baserunners and if jorge was behind the dish it would be a track meet..
Interesting how much stronger and faster Hanley Ramirez became when he got to the majors.
I don’t get why Gardner is leading off
The DP machine is batting 2nd and Brett would be going against a pitch for contact SP. If Brett gets one on the ground through a hole we could see some things that would actually help the team.
stuart, I was thinking the same thing but when you look at Giambi with RISP he has been really, really bad, even though he has gotten a lot of clutch hits (ironic) and he is more of a candidate to strike out than Abreu. Honestly, I don’t think there is a whole lot you can do with this lineup besides ask guys like Jeter and Abreu and Cano to start to step up and hit like they are capable. I actually think they will (hard for me to believe any of those guys are finished). The only area where I have a problem is with Gardner being force fed an important lead-off spot in the lineup as a rookie with, what, 4 games under his belt? The pitchers are treated with kid gloves by this organization but Bret Gardner is asked to be the table setter? Seems strange.
i bet hanley ramirez is gonna be a yankee wen his contract expires
Brandon,
True, Masterson isn’t likely to get a lot of K’s today, but I still think the better lineup would have Jeter first with Cano second because Gardner might be putting a lot more pressure on himself in that leadoff spot than down in the order. It is almost like you are saying to the kid “okay, go be Johnny Damon” and four games in to his career, that seems like a lot to ask. Plus, I think batting Jeter leadoff might get him going, make him concentrate on getting on base, take the GIDP out of the equation (hopefully) and get him on track, which is important if the team is actually gonna go on a run. But I understand what you are saying
Um Dembore, one problem with the balogna you just spat out. IT’S THE SAME TEAM. That is, the same team with a better bullpen, a few more injuries, a consistent Mussina, and probably a new number 1 starter in Joba. So the team this year us pretty much the same “poorly managed, inconsistent, over-rated, overpaid, lazy” team as last year.
Why anyone is complaining about the lineup today is beyond me.
It’s like stacking cow dung. You can stack it many different ways but at the end of the day it’s still a pile of cow dung.
Plus with Moose on the mound aganst Bsoton, the outcome of this game is all but written.
Add in the torture of having to listen to Buck and McCarver do the game and I think it’s a great day to take a day off from the team and go catch a movie or something.
Seriously? You’re gonna compare Hanley Ramirez to Austin Jackson?
You still don’t get it. Austin Jackson is a top prospect for the Yankees, but he’s not a prospect of Bruce level or Matt LaPorta level. Maybe he’ll develop into a top outfielder, maybe he won’t. But the fact that everyone here already has him ready to take over for Abreu next year is a joke. He’s hitting .274 in AA.
Matt LaPorta is going to fetch CC Sabathia by himself right now. Austin Jackson cannot.
What happened with Eric Duncan? Remember when he was “can’t miss”?
How about Jose Tabata? He’s dropping faster than Enron. Everyone here loved talking about how “untouchable” he was last year. This year nobody is saying anything about him. What happened to his fan club? Broke up faster than N’Sync.
A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT TO THOSE YANKEE FANS ON THE LEDGE: The Yankees were 44-44 after 88 games last season and were 9.5 games out first place. They won 11 of their next games and never looked back. Thank you Peter!!!
Like I said, keep clutching your security binkie while moaning to yourself.
Raining in New York? Ha, day after day. The only part of the country in which weather is crappy all weekend.
New day, New game
Let’s go Yanks. Start winning
Brandon,
True, Masterson isn’t likely to get a lot of K’s today, but I still think the better lineup would have Jeter first with Cano second because Gardner might be putting a lot more pressure on himself in that leadoff spot than down in the order
It’s called learning on the job, Gardner opened his mouth in the spring about taking someone’s job, well lets see it Holy Hill.
Oh it’s a Fox game, too. So definitely rain delays expected.
digging your post Patrick, I get ill reading how some not all Yankee fans here think and assume that the Yankees have the best prospects, or that those guys “tearing up” AA and AAA with the 285 BA are going to walk in and be better than what the yanks have on the field.
All of those “blue chippers” Gardner, Christian, Jackson and Tabata COMBINED might not do what Abreu will do at the end of all their careers. Incidently Abreu is hitting 277 right now, and he has never hit below that in his entire career. He is on his way to his 7th season of 100 RBI`s, and he has always had double digit stolen bases. He is not the problem. Bring in two QUALITY starters and all this bad stuff goes away. Take the pressure off the offense where they dont have to always play catchup.
I was following a few debates from a couple of threads ago, and–as is generally the case–Livan Hernandez was brought up by randy l.
…randy, you’re absolutely right that innings are important, and innings are something Hernandez can provide. And yes, that does give him some value. However, in Cashman’s defense, he presumed (correctly, I think) that Wang and Pettitte would be his innings-eaters this season, and the fact is, they’re going to provide *above* average innings than Hernandez, as opposed to below average innings.
And the Yankees essentially had their version of Hernandez in Mussina, whose upside was essentially average- to below-average innings over the course of the season.
In hindsight, Kennedy probably should have started the year in AAA. Although he had massive success at AAA towards the end of last year, the reality is he really didn’t amass too many innings there, and he looked great in three September starts (admittedly, it was only three starts). That doesn’t mean it was a bad gamble to try Kennedy out in the rotation at the beginning of the year, and simply transition Joba in if he failed (this is essentially what happened).
I think what Cashman was really gambling on was Kennedy’s upside, and the possibility that he gets better as the season goes on. He gambled wrongly, obviously, but sometimes gambles don’t work out. I think that, if Wang doesn’t get injured, Cashman *still* comes out ahead in the gamble, even though Hughes and Kennedy had worst-case outcomes (ineffectiveness *AND* injuries). And Cashman was gambling that, even if Kennedy and/or Hughes had early-season struggles, as they did, the offense would be potent enough to bail them out, and therefore allow them to continue their development in the majors, as opposed to in AAA. There *is* something to be said for the majors providing some valuable learning experiences, such as how to deal with failure, which neither Kennedy nor Hughes had to deal with in the minors.
But as people like SJ have posted again and again, it’s not the pitching which is causing this team problems right now; it’s the offense. I’ll agree that having Livan to provide some innings in Wang’s stead (albeit below-average innings) would be appreciated right now, when one considers that the current alternatives are Rasner, Karstens, Ponson, and Geise. But I still think that Cashman’s gamble re: the rotation at the beginning of the year was one worth taking, even if the outcome has been as far below any reasonable expectation anyone in the Yankee organization could have had to this point.
“ERâ„¢ (The Last Yankee Fanâ„¢)
July 5th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
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testing what ?…whether or not you still have the ability to show your stupidity in this forum for yet another day ?
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It doesn’t matter if Gardner bats first or ninth, he will be feeling pressure. Right now, I’m sure everyone in the lineup is feeling pressure.
Just about everyone wanted Gardner (I like “Holly Hill” nickname, but I also like the “Apple Pie” name too) up, now he’s here, stop giving him the excuse of having TOO much pressure. Welcome to the big time.
That being said, I hope he steals 50 bases the rest of the year. After all, he is a Yankee.
Patrick,
Comparing his stats, not saying he is definitely going to turn out like Ramirez, just looking at his stats and comparing how strikingly similar they are. And who cares about LaPorta or anyone else. Jackson has as good a chance to turn out as any of those guys, why wouldn’t he? Robby Cano could get Sabathia on his own right now as well, and when he was a minor leaguer he wasn’t considered a “can’t miss”. Everyone who has seen this kid has raved about him. Why not get a little excited, for once, about a possible top position player coming up to the Yanks? I would LOVE to see the kid pan out and take over for Abreu, wouldn’t you? What’s the harm in speculating and looking at stats and comparing the kid? He is a high level prospect with stats very similar to Hanley Ramirez, only with about 120 less at bats in their minor league careers. He might never amount to anything. Maybe he does become Eric Duncan. Or maybe he DOES become a terrific 5-tool player for this team. Either one is equally possible.
Still think its the pitching, Yesterdays game they faced a high level ace in Beckett (boy, must be nice) and they scored 3 runs, what did we expect? to blow him off the mound with 8 runs? If you face Beckett, Halliday, Santana, etc 3 runs is a good job against those guys. Your pitchers need to compete and keep you in the game. If Rasner holds the Bosox then its our bullpen against theirs and Yanks may win
All of those “blue chippers†Gardner, Christian, Jackson and Tabata COMBINED might not do what Abreu will do at the end of all their careers.
And that’s all I need to know of how you view the farm system, No one I repeat no one who has any knowledge of the system labeled Christian or Gardner in the same class of Tabata or Jackson. I hope you learn to listen when you post here, just on that little sentence lets me know you have a long way to go.
” Manny Ramirez is 16 of 36 with six home runs and 14 RBI against you since 2004.
Walk him.”
no, hit him.
it keeps the pitch count down.
Andy,
That’s fine, but this isn’t about whether Gardner can hack it or not, this is about wins, and it doesn’t seem to me that Girardi is putting the smartest lineup on the field with Gardner batting leadoff, that’s all. It might not make a difference, and maybe the kid shows the potential that has gotten a lot of people (including me) excited to see him, but I don’t think this is the time to throw a kid out there and say “sink or swim” when, if he sinks, it could help sink your offense and lose a game and this team needs as many wins as possible as quickly as possible.
Like I said, might not make a difference, but, to me, whether the kid has been cocky, opened his mouth in the spring, believes he can do it, whatever doesn’t matter to me. This isn’t about whether Bret Gardner is ready, this is about giving yourself the best chance to win.
…if we’re talking about how the Yankee lineup *should* be constructed, it should be as follows:
1 – Giambi
2 – A-Rod
3 – Abreu
4 – Betemit
5 – Jeter
6 – Gardner
7 – Cano
8 – Molina
9 – Cabrera
The Yankees’ best two hitters 1st and 2nd, giving them the most-at bats today. Betemit, who has the most power after the first two hitters, slots into the 4th slot. Gardner bats ahead of Cano, Molina, and Cabrera, where his speed can be best utilized since none of the three have the power to move batters anywhere but from station-to-station on their own.
There’s probably an argument for swapping Cabrera with Jeter, since Jeter would probably get on base more in front of A-Rod and Giambi. Or perhaps even putting Abreu towards the bottom, for the same reason.
…but this is a very, *very* unorthodox lineup, that no one in the game would employ. It challenges basic assumptions in baseball, such that you need speed at the top of the order (actually, speed is best put in the middle of the order where it can be optimized, as I described above).
Using more orthodox lineups, which actually aren’t too far off-the-mark so long as you put high-obp towards the top and high-slg towards the middle, the lineup that Girardi is providing isn’t too bad. I *do* think that Giambi and Abreu should be swapped, though, and I think Gardner would be better served hitting 6th or 7th (again, because speed at the top of a lineup is the most overrated aspect of lineup construction today).
Finally, as for Moose vs. Manny – I agree with randy, hit him. It provides the same function as a walk, but in less pitches.
Patrick Bateman is right except most of the pom pom waiving all our minor leaguers are little pieces of heaven types in here will never admit it.
It makes me ill to read in here people thinking that Austin Jackson is starting in CF next year. How dumb are you people? He’s in AA. There’s still a thing called AAA for him to conquer and no one knows what he is.
Haven’t you learned anything this year? Here’s the truth.
Joba is a freak of nature.
The rest of the kids in the system are not. They need time to develop in the minor leagues and the odds are most of them will never ever be productive major league ballplayers.
The time to sell high was this off season. Cashman somehow lucked into the rest of baseball thinking his minor league system was the hottest thing in the league.
You could have traded Horne, Marquez, Tabata, Kennedy, etc for big pieces that could help this major league team this season.
Now you put those four on the table and the other GM says, “what else do you have?”.
In a matter of months, the perception of the Yankee minor league system being this pipeline of incredible talent has now shown the reality. Our prospects are so overrated by this fanbase and the GM that we left the major league team in 2008 hung out to dry.
Cashman put more care and thought into last season’s team than this one.
And here’s the newflash. The kids aren’t ready. They aren’t all as good as advertised and now you can’t trade them for Billy Ripken.
This rebuilding phase isn’t going to just last one season. It’s going to take 4 seasons before any of these little dumplings of wonder in the minor leagues can come up and do anything at the major league level.
Cashman did a horrible job this off season. He had minor league assets that didn’t have roles on the team this year that he could have dealt for major league assets, but Cashman sent the word out to everyone that he was not trading these wonderful little biscuits in his minor league system.
The guy is not a complete GM. Go download that excel file with his trade history and cringe. Say what you want about the Tampa mafia interfering with but how does anyone know what he would have done left to his own devices.
It could be a whole lot worse than what we’re seeing right now.
This team, as presently constituted, is cooked.
Deals need to be made for now and for the future to find some position players who care and want to win championships.
For the first time in a long time I realize the payroll has to come down because paying baseball players this amount of money saps their desire completely.
He needs to change this team and the culture of this team right now. Not in the off season.
There’s not even enough decent free agent starting pitching out there for us to fill out the rest of the rotation next season and that’s assuming guys like CC and others make it to free agency or even want to come here.
Moves need to be made. Get Abreu out of NY and get something in return for him is the first shot that needs to be fired.
Brandon,
you are mixing the post up. Of course there is a difference, my point was that people assume that all Yankee prospects or minor leaguers are all capable of coming up to the varsity and contributing, like high school, its a natural graduation to the varsity team. I simply stated that just because Abreu is a little down it doesnt neccessarily mean that theres a minor leaguer that can take his spot and do what he has done. Anything is possible, and theres no crystal ball, but the posters who say “bring this guy or that guy up he cant be any worse” are off base
fallen phoenix-
i’ve got a busy cape cod day going in my business so i can’t take the time to give a response that’s up to the level of your observations.
my point has always been that cashman had a bad plan from the beginning. he was too optimistic about the problems that too many rookies in the rotation causes.
the point was never livan hernandez. the point is he’s way better than what cashman had planned. the twins jumped at getting him. they are old school and play the game right.
they pay attention to innings, pitch count and the small things in the game that seems to be beneath the yankees.
I hope the rain stops in time. I’m going to the game and need to see the Yanks pull out a win.
You mean FEWER pitches, Phoenix.
Gardner is Girardi’s type of player, fast, works the count, competitive. Hopefully he can add some life to this team. I think this will be a breakout day for him, 2-3 with a walk, 3 SB’s and 2 runs.
I think this will be a breakout day for him, 2-3 with a walk, 3 SB’s and 2 runs.
We’d settle for (1 for 4, 2 SB, BB, R) from him
Of course the bullpen is great they have no holds.When was the last time they protected a lead after the 7th inning.
2-1 after the 8th Yankees lead.If they can hold it more then once a week then give them props.
I’d settle for an 0-3 1 bb, 1 SB,R. We win 1-0. As Posada would say “Its time to grind out wins”.
“No, I’m Patrick Bateman”
Question. Ramirez fastball was clocking at 92 yesterday. Was that a sooped up gun or has his fastball increased?
Gardner can go 0-7 for all i care, as long as they win
Love that public service announcement to Mussina … hope he is listening!
Anything is possible, and theres no crystal ball, but the posters who say “bring this guy or that guy up he cant be any worse†are off base
I think the basis of those talks are when they mostly are in slumps. Ofcourse that is crazy to think a AA/AAA player could take some’s job. It’s the quick fix fans I can’t stand, I mean I think Guiseppe Franco put it clear in last night’s post, not every player in FA pans out, it’s a risk. You package 3-4 young kids for one guy it’s a hell of a risk, look at Seattle when they traded for Bedard, you think they don’t miss Sherril or Jones ? or the Braves when they stole Jair Jurrjens from Detroit. This Yankees farmsystem started restocking through the draft in 2005, The Red Sox/Rays have been restocking since 1999, that is why they are where they are, sure Beckett is a big part of it but Papelbon, Pedroia, Ellsbury, Youkilis, it’s all there, the blue print to creating a competitive team for the Sox started in 2001 through the draft they added a piece here a FA there and viola instant contender. The Yankees right now being 3-4 yrs. behind are trying to catch up and are making significant progress doing so, I don’t see any reason to back away from that.
Assuming the Yankees have a plethora of young starting pitching in the minors wouldn’t it behoove Cashman to go to a team like Milwaukee with an abundance of everyday players in their system and make a nice swap of young talent that would be beneficial to both teams? I don’t understand why Cashman is so reluctant to trade for young position players.
Ramirez fastball was clocking at 92 yesterday
The game before that hit hit 94 mph, so IDK.
“Love that public service announcement to Mussina … hope he is listening!”
More importantly Girardi.
Maybe Ramirez built some strength. After all, if he gained a little weight of muscle, his fastball might go up and that means his changeup is even better.
I don’t understand why Cashman is so reluctant to trade for young position players.
I think it’s because the focus in the first 3 yrs. of this restocking of the system is about stocking it w/ as many top tier arms as you can, the arms are more valueable than the bats, but if your asking for players like Laporta or Braun are you willing to deal Philip Hughes or Jackson,Betances,McCallister and Kennedy ? I know alot of GMs would call this type of deal career suicide because 1 player in the minors, be it a high draft choice but this is mute because Milwaukee will most likely move him for Sabathia.
Who knows if Laporta turns out like the indians Marte. I remember everyone saying he is a cant miss. Well im still waiting. I dont see the problem of looking forward to our home growns to have their debut. If they fail. They fail. As long as we have a surplus of talent, where we could throw as many against the wall and see what sticks. As someone mentioned earlier. Who would have thought that Cano woould have batted better in the bigs than in the minors.
Guiseppe Franco hit it right on the head earlier. We’re seeing right now the results of having not developed a foundation in between the late 90’s and 2005. The Yankees are in the period where the veteran and external bandaids have declined in effectiveness/health enough to be exposed (see our veteran offense going down the drain and the changing nature of the game) and the farm system hasn’t been developed enough yet.
The old crop’s fruits are declining from age as time goes by, but fresher crops haven’t been planted until recently.
Hello all,
I was wondering, my brother and I are traveling around the US (we’re in Brooklyn at the moment), and we were thinking about going to see the HoF at some point. However, since I can’t drive, and he’s too young to rent a car (20), we’re not sure of the best way to get there.. Do you guys have any suggestions?
(with the exception of Mo who is a freak of nature in his own right)
What do you guys think about getting Franceour from the braves if Damon is out for awhile. I would think he is a low risk,high reward player. Bats right,had 29 homers in 06. Hes also still young at 24. Thoughts?
A PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT TO THOSE YANKEE FANS ON THE LEDGE: The Yankees were 44-44 after 88 games last season and were 9.5 games out first place. They won 11 of their next games and never looked back.
But that was when they had an offense that was productive. This team will never win 11 in a row. And contrary to Kevin Long’s belief, while the team does have the potential, they are not hitting and will not start hitting until they change their approach at the plate.
Right now they are panic style hitters. Too anxious to hit, too undisciplined to work the count, and as proof by Captain DP and Jorge DP Posada, they are not focused on situational hitting.
So, last year means nothing. Not the number of games back, winning streaks, etc.
Wouter,
Hit 763 home runs that should get you there.
Aside from needing a left fielder, center fielder, DH, 1st baseman, and a catcher, this team is looking pretty good.
Just got to the stadium it is a nice steady rain here figure this one will be played with rain throughout pretty much as it was not heavy until a few minutes ago. Pinstripe pub till game time I guess lol
What the record was last year at this time is of no significance.
This team lacks the mental toughness to go out and do what happened in 2007. They can’t pull out close games or have key hits when needed. All the things a good team needs to win are missing.
It’s time to deal with reality. This IS a transitional year.
PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT TO BRETT GARDNER:
Please, for the love of everyone on this blog, get on base.
” The old crop’s fruits are declining from age as time goes by, but fresher crops haven’t been planted until recently.”
blargh-
to carry out your analogy further, cashman keeps pulling the carrots up to see how they’re growing.
New Yankee Stadium Photos, taken 7/3: http://slidingintohome.blogspo.....adium.html
some reality check clowns.. Matt Laporta nd 2 other top prospects will bet Milwaukee Sabathia..
Ajax is a legit top prospect not jsut the Yankee top prospect. He has 8 jacks and many multi RBI games…
not all Yankee prospects are overrated and the competitions prospects underated.. yeah Joba was overrated too!!!!!!!!
Again live in a dream land but the Yanks have the most minore league talent they have had in a LONG LONG TIME.. Yeah will some of that talent fail? Of course but some of it will succeed big time.. Yeah Tabata is done after all he is 19 and only hitting about 250 at AA…..Give me a break, he has tons of talent and is a very very good prospect, attitude issues also…..
†The old crop’s fruits are declining from age as time goes by, but fresher crops haven’t been planted until recently.â€
blargh-
to carry out your analogy further, cashman keeps pulling the carrots up to see how they’re growing.
To go even further is that Cashman can’t put them back and everyone just decides to throw them out as lost causes. Only one was grown and that was Joba
“Love that public service announcement to Mussina … hope he is listening!â€
More importantly Girardi.
Thanks for the correction S.O.S.
Wouter
Call the HOF or Cooperstown Chamber of Commerce. They would probably know how other people from the NYC area got there using public transportation.
I think Amtrak goes from Penn Station in NYC to Utica which gets you within 30 minutes of Cooperstown. Look at amtrak.com to see if that train route still exists.
The reason this yr. is so dissapointing is because of the underperformance of the team. Yes it is a transition yr. whatever that mean but they are still underperforming..
I take last yrs team, yes all the position guys would be a year older and yes jorge nor Arod would produce at last yrs level and I say they should get better production form Melky and Cano then last yr. I also say there starters would be better with hughes, kennedy, etc.. I also thought wth all the good yung arms in the minors the pen would improve..
so far only the pen has delivered.
the starting staff if Wang would be healthy and any decent performance fron hughes should have been very good..Pettitte, wang, moose, joba, and hughes should have been a really good rotation…
I knew the offfense would not sore 965 runs but I thought they could score in the mid 800’s and be more consistent…
This transition term is a bogus term, the right term should be the yankee roster is getting younger..Again for the 4000th time if the big boys (guys who make mucho dinero and have the big reps.) were doing 85% of what they should do this team is a good team….
IF the lack of performance from the big boys continue Cash needs to sell and Girardi needs to shake up the lineup….
Fire Kevin Long already!
In the old days someone would pay for this to send some type of message to the rest of the coaches and the team. Our inability to hit with runners on base is beyond frustrating.
I really have no faith in the team this year. Since we aren’t going to make the playoffs lets get rid of some of these so called “stars” and send them to some contenders. It pisses me off, this whole transition thing. We are the NY Yankees, not the A’s or Royals!
I could also care less if Cashman comes back. Name one significant trade he has made since getting Justice back in 2000.
Everyone keeps saying trade Abreu. If this inconsistancy continues in the next couple weeks. I would also be for unloading Damon(if healthy)while his stocks still high. With Hughes getting injured and Kennedy not matching last years performance. We might need to over spend in the off season(C.C.,Sheet,Tex) or we might be looking at another year of transitioning.
I believe baseball has organized a boycott of Barry Bonds in order to keep his career HR total down so that “good guy” A-Rod can pass him all the more quickly. Tell me the Yanks, Padres, Indians, etc. couldn’t use his bat. A-Rod may get the record, but how many dingers will he hit in October? He’s a loser. Madonna can have him.
the thing i don’t get when people say the hitting coach doesn’t hit so why is it his fault, yet when the team hits they say he’s doing a great job.
you can’t have it both ways. either the hitting coach makes a difference or he doesn’t. if he doesn’t why have one?
“It pisses me off, this whole transition thing. We are the NY Yankees, not the A’s or Royals!”
Did you get some sort of a written guarantee about fielding winning teams when you bought your first Yankee cap that I didn’t?
Our prospects are overrated by the fan base? Isn’t that basically a generalization of the whole fan base? Are you a mind reader or something?
“I could also care less if Cashman comes back. Name one significant trade he has made since getting Justice back in 2000.”
He got Abreu for nothing in 2006. That’s not a bad deal.
yankee lover,you hit it right on.wangs injury is gonna kill the yankees.the yankees need 2 aces and all this goes away.in 2009 if they can get weeks,sabathia/harden.can you imagine weeks,harden,wang,joba.right now their is not much the yankees can do but i would try to trade for weeks and harden.kennedy,melky,betances,tabata for weeks and hughes,cano,jb cox, for harden,move posada to first base,bring cervelli up,damon in left,dh matsui,gardner in center until ajax is ready,let giambi,abraeu,mussina,pettitte,farns,hawk,pavano go,get a young right fielder and second baseman.
I got a little bored so I looked around. On riveraveblues.com, another yankees blog, there was a post.
The Yankees Suck
Discuss.
I kinda thought it was funny.
Bru, who is Weeks,
the infielder for the Brewers?
“Moves need to be made. Get Abreu out of NY and get something in return for him is the first shot that needs to be fired.”
in your reasoning of moving someone when they have a high value, i would like to see arod go. he’s getting weirder and weirder as time goes on. i have a feeling by the time he’s late thirties something will come out that that will be an embarrassment to the yankees similar to clemens.
i’ve changed my mind on arod. the talent and production is not worth what he does to a team.
Yea, Bru, go for it all next year and just screw the next five years. Harden is worse then Pavano, at least Pavano pitched a season at one point in his career.
According to Bru, we will be like the Mets, give up every young guy and have only one prospect with any decent chance of being good. F-mart and A-Jax
Anyone else check for Rebecca’s posts during a loss?
Rebecca where were you yesterday??? Ha ha!
(I trust you enough to tell us when you’re going to a game.)
Here’s a poll. If Yankees lost every game you attended would you keep going or would you try staying away? If you don’t have the ability to be totally honest don’t answer this question.
I’d stay away. I want the Yankees to get a ring more than I want to be in the audience. At the very least I’d certainly keep my attendance to a minimum!
Nice to see Gardner leading off and Moeller not in the game.
It would be nice if someone gave Girardi a clue.
Randy, how the hell do you expect to get any value out of Arod. yea he is good but 30mil, he cant get traded.
bru the name is Ben Sheets
The 1st bad signs for the 2007 team were evident when Cashman only signed Hawkins to fortify the bullpen and handed the back end of the starting rotation to Hughes and Kennedy who had yet to prove they could pitch in the big leagues. All chancy moves.
Randy:
Arod’s contract = untradeable
Watch the DPs today against Masterson’s sinker. Have to believe a few hit and runs will be on today.
27 this year-
tampa bay has all the yankees money . maybe they can pay him.
maybe the angels or dodgers. or a chicago team. someone would want him.
the real problem is that he would have to agree to it .
Why trade for CC or Sheets, when they can just outbid for them in the offseason?
karsens will be up after ponson or rasners next start.their pitching is putting to much pressure on the offense.kennedy and hughes didn’t win a game.they need wang,bruney back,bring britton up.they can probably hang in their with wang,pettitte,mussina,joba but not with rasner and ponson and the 5th spot would be easy but filling the 4th and 5th spots are to much.they need a young ace to go with wang,joba.
What Cashman does by the end of July for roster moves will speak volumes.
If he does nothing more than blow smoke it’s a clear indicator that the string will be played out on the season and the talk becomes more about the 2009 season than the present one.
“Why trade for CC or Sheets, when they can just outbid for them in the offseason?”
Lot of noise suggesting Sabathis prefers the left coast. Dosgers have a lot of money coming off their books and need the ace.
CC doesn’t want to run, so no National League.
Jeesh:
Sabathis = Sabathia
Dosgers = Dodgers
I dont think we can blame all of the trasactions on Cashman. Its not his fault that these so called all stars fold in New York pressure. From Johnson to Pavano(everyone wanted him. the top free agent pitcher)to Weaver to Contreras. All couldnt handle the heat. Thats one disadvantage our team has over any other. We have the pressure factor. One more thing. Ask yourselfs what would we have done in the last couple years if we got Vlad rather than “the cream”?
I do agree on Long. Its time to give him some of the blame for the lack of plate discipline this team has shown. I dont care if Arod had an mvp year last year because of his one on ones. He raved about his Rangers hitting coach and still won the mvp without him. Time to do whats best for the team.
Fredo I Live in AL if the Yanks want Sabathia they will outbid the Dodgers in a second…
the Dodgers lose Nomars contract,lowe, and kent but still have pierre, schmidt, jones, and they have alot of holes to fill.
sabathia at $18 mill is a non starter in LA>>>>>
Sabathia is from Oakland also not LA….
“The 1st bad signs for the 2007 team were evident when Cashman only signed Hawkins to fortify the bullpen”
Hawkins had success in the a.l. He was supposed to be a replica of Viscaino of 07 with only commiting one year. On paper it looked like a no brainer. It was either to sign THE VIZ(who i wasnt a big fan of) for 2 years or Hawk. I say give him the superman jersey again(21)and milk him till his trade value goes up.
“Fredo I Live in AL if the Yanks want Sabathia they will outbid the Dodgers in a second…”
Stu, you may be right. Not sure the Yanks will be willing to go 6-7 yrs and $18M. Goes against Cashman’s way of thinking. Yanks will have to overpay to get him. If Wang and Hughes come back healthy and Joba now a starter, they might be better off giving Mussina and Pettitte one year deals. Sabathia deal is a major gamble.
Would it be less of a gamble to give Sheets 3 or 4 years than to give C.C. 7? Hoping he doesnt get Pavanoed for most of his stint.
“Manny Ramirez is 16 of 36 with six home runs and 14 RBI against you since 2004.
Walk him.”
Have you checked out Lowell’s stats vs Mussina though? Walking might be the “smart” move, but with Lowell’s stats, how smart is deliberately putting him on base really?
Lets Go Yankees
Would it be less of a gamble to give Sheets 3 or 4 years than to give C.C. 7? Hoping he doesnt get Pavanoed for most of his stint.
Sheets is 30. Couple years older than Sabathia and possessing nasty injury history. If took 3 with an option for a 4th, based on IP, I’d consider that.
With the Yankees’ luck on importing pitchers, I can see Sheets or Harden exploding (in the literal, body parts flying everywhere sense) upon entering the locker room
Or they’ll be twisted into full season pitchers. All or nothing!
Masterson throws close to side armed. He has fairly extreme splits facing righties and lefties, especially in terms of hitting for power.
Against righties he’s been very tough: .163 .239 .263 .501. Against lefties: .231 .381 .484 .864.
Masterson was very good in his first set of starts but hasn’t been as sharp over his past few.
With the lefty oriented yankee line up in theory they should score some runs today.
But in theory hasn’t mattered much this year with this offense. It’s another young righty pitcher they’ve never seen before and we know how they’ve done against them in the recent past.
The AA trenton team beat Masterson twice this year already. Lets see what the big league team can do.
Dodgers looking for an SS. Perhaps with all the $$ they will have to spend, DJ would consider taking his lifestyle to Hollywood and hang out with JT.
jk
randy, I know the point isn’t Livan Hernandez specifically – I guess I’m just far more forgiving of the plan Cashman had in place, because it made a lot of sense for a lot of reasons.
First, Cashman had two reliable innings eaters at the front of the rotation to buoy the rookie arms at the back of the rotation.
Second, Cashman had another high-upside arm (Joba Chamberlain) to slot into the rotation if/when one of the rookie arms faltered due to ineffectiveness or inexperience.
Third, the Yankee offense was projected to plate another 900 runs this season, which would help cover the rookies’ growing pains.
Points one and two have largely worked out for the Yankees this season; unfortunately Wang has gone down, but Mussina has stepped up to provide innings for the rotation (whether he can keep that up for another half-season is a legitimate question, however). It’s been point three that has seriously jeopardized Cashman’s plan, because the offense hasn’t been able to cover for *good* pitching, let alone mediocre or bad pitching.
Yes, it looks worse because Hughes is missing a chunk of the season with an injury, and Kennedy also missed a couple of weeks with an injury in addition to being ineffective. Of course, Kennedy can blow away AAA for a month, get called up, and provide league-average production the rest of the way; it’s not completely inconceivable, he has a (small) track record of success, particularly at the minor-league level.
Of course, if Kennedy can pitch well in AAA the rest of the way, even if he doesn’t get called back up, it would be absurd to call him any kind of failure, because as I’ve tried to assert again and again, that kind of professional success one or two seasons in is incredibly unusual.
I think there is good reason to be skeptical of the plan Cashman had in place this season, particularly since the results have been severely lacking, and you can’t just explain them all away. I nonetheless still think the plan was a reasonable one, but I also understand that most will (reasonably) disagree.
Hey Pat, no I did not get a guarantee that when I bought my first Yanks hat that they would be competitive year after year.
However, what really gets me angry is the following:
1) The amount I spend on tickets per year-In 2000 I had a partial plan. When I got married, had to say goodbye to that. I took my wife and daughter to her first game the other night. My daughter is 4, my tix were upstairs(got em off Ebay) Between taking my wife and daughter bowling before the game and the game itself including tix I spent approx. 200 dollars to see Sidney Ponson stink up the joint.
2) We are the Yankees, we sell out every day-we are the most popular team in sports. We have more cash than anyone, thus we should be investing it wisely. Not stupid moves like Randy Johnson, Pavano, Igawa. If you or I made stupid decisions like this in our jobs, we’d pay for it.
Go Yankees.
let the pain begin….
Fingers crossed – Go Yankees
Sink or swim time STARTS NOW !!!!
Test the rookie and flunks!
There’s that deadly accuracy. Arm strength isn’t everything.
How does Tim know he doesn’t have a strong arm?
What kind of goatee is that on Pee Wee Pedroia?
jesus Melky
Ugh, Buck and McCarver. I want to throw up just a little bit.
Like I said, I definitely don’t mind Gardner there for his defense.
Good thing we have two televisions. My girlfriend got me hooked on some weekend marathon of something called Paradise Hotel. I think it was on a few years ago.
I hope to hell this game is more exciting…
Good Jesus. Listening to McCarver and Buck makes me want to go and watch Paradise Hotel.
CC,
That’s a two-lane country highway.
Anyone remember when the Yankees marched into Fenway and took 5 in a row?
Goes to show that in the end it didn’t mean anything.
I’d just not rather get swept at home by the Red Sox.
You know, I’ve seen stubborn, but Mussina’s just a whole different breed.
Let’s see..
A). Mute button on and listen to Suzyn and Sterling?
Or
B). Mute button on..and just watch in silence?
I think B wins..
I think the Yanks are going to pummel the crap out of Masterson. No good reason to think that other than it’s either true or it’s wishful thinking! Ha ha.
“…squirts behind the rear end of Manny Ramirez.”
I guess Mussina knows what he’s doing.
Whew. It’s gonna be a very long day.
Sometimes stubborn isn’t a bad thing. Look at us. We’re here planning on the Yankees to find a way to get going and win it all. Right?
Whew. Nice to come out of there unscathed.
Gardner should have faced Masterson in the minors. Anyone know how he did?
I thought that Mussina was some kind of genius. How many pitches did he waste before hitting Manny? lol.
mel
Moose didn’t want to be obvious.
2 for 2 … maybe we can get a ball out of the infield before the 5th inning.
So this inning will take Masterson what 8 pitches.
I wish they had someone else do the Yankees lineup, Brett doesn’t know the player’s nicknames yet
Pete:
From The Sports Injury Dr.
What is an AC joint? The AC joint is the highest joint on your shoulder. It is at the junction of the scapula and the clavicle.
Why is it called an AC joint? Another word for the scapula is the acromion, so when you put acromion and clavicle together, you get AC.
What is an AC joint sprain? It’s not really a sprain, but a separation or dislocation. This happens during a traumatic event like being hit by a defender that is twice your size.
How do you diagnose an AC joint sprain? There are 6 grades of AC joint sprains. The scale starts at one and goes to six. At one you have a simple sprain with some trauma to the ligaments, but no damage. At level two things start to get dicey with tearing of the ligaments. Levels 3 through 6 mean you have completely torn the ligaments and your shoulder is now disconnected from your body. This is bad.
Here are some common symptoms of a sprained AC joint:
-Bump on shoulder.
-Pain in shoulder.
-Restricted movement.
Pain on contact.
How you treat a sprained AC joint? It depends on the severity of the sprain. Here is a good comparison:
Level 1 and Level 2: Rest, pain medication, an arm sling and mild physical therapy. Typically, it takes three to six weeks to be pain free and gain a full range of motion.
Level 3: Surgery will be called for 50% of the time. After surgery you’ll need extensive physical therapy. Recovery is 3-6 months.
Levels 4, 5, 6: Surgery will always happen and only has a 50% chance of success. Success being defined as gaining range of motion, flexibility and loss of pain. In many cases further clavicle breakage will happen after surgery.
Sweeeeep
Why do they even bother to play this game, Pete?
pat,
I don’t think it should’ve been a HBP. Manny’s pants aren’t regulation.
Fantastic start to this game.
Really what is the point of having a bat if it doesn’t leave your shoulder?
I am new to this game but isn’t the object to hit the ball using the bat?
“Meanwhile, Brett called me “sir†today and I quickly put a stop to that.”
haha he is a good southern boy
Why do you bother to post?
The good news Bobby took pitches the bad news he took the same approach as he did on that pop up in the 7th inning yesterday at that last pitch, if it’s on the corner take it, the worst that happens is a strikeout the best would be ball 3 and forces a fullcount in your favor. All in all first 2 batters hit it well just Masterson getting that, Bobby good AB except for that last strike.
Hey, Major League II is on TBS. Which game do you think has the more predictable outcome? Yanks should try and sign Serrano next year to take Abreu’s spot.
Wow, Uncle Fester is bitching…..shocker.
It was a freakin’ convention at 1B on that play.
Let’s go Moose. One more.
Where are those pitches that Moose isn’t getting? At least 4 so far.
Damn, that was squeezed.
Make that 5 so far.
If we had Moose pitching yesterday maybe we would have taken the game.
I’m just saying.
I know Brett doesn’t deserve a nickname, but I kind of like “The Rookie”.
Can we at least make the child break into a sweat here?
Yankees look like they’re out there to play.
Day two that the message is still working.
They may not win every game but if they play hard every game they’ll win some!
Can we at least make the child break into a sweat here?
What’s the old saying? Second time around?
Alex have a date with Madonna? What’s up with that fast swinging?
That had to be the worst AB this season by Alex, what the hell was that ?
First AB same results.
Yanks have to begin to get lucky and stop facing so many Cy Youngs. Every game they face a Cy Young candidate.
I knew Buck and McCarver wouldn’t be able to resist. They’re so predictable.
“underachieving team”
Nice to hear Buck say that. Seriously. This isn’t a bad team. This is an underachieving team.
The plan was to make him sweat Alex..
I stand corrected Betemit just topped it.
Betemit…sigh
A new look for Robbie Cano today
1 pitch out for Melky ?
Whaddya know, Robby Cano!
Speedy Giambi
OH
MY
GOD!!!!!
Good slide by the ’stache.
OOOOHHH!!
A run!!
Nice melky
Fear the Stache!!!!
The Melk Man delivers!!
That was actually a very very good slide by Giambi. WTF… where did he learn that.
Brandon
Apologize to Melky
WOW Big stache looked like a dead duck, but was safe!
No hitter busted.
Brandon,
Yes, Betty swung at the first pitch, but he had good wood.
Whoo! G-Man truckin’ it home.
Speedambi
What’s the scouting report for Masterson ? 1 pitch or your out I mean yeh we got the run but these are horrible examples of patient ABs
hi Pete
Jose Molina blows at batting.
Brandon
Apologize to Melky
Lo Siento
Molina… you just pulled an Cano. Well, a Cano a couple weeks ago.
My god!!!
I just let loose the loudest YEAHHHHHHHHHHHH in my entire life when Giambi scored.
I thought there was no way he was going to score. Fantastic slide!
The reason it took an extra day for Joe’s message to work on Melky is because his English isn’t so good and Robby had to translate it into English for him!
Ha ha!
I might’ve missed it but what’s up with the Yankees caps? Why are they wearing different colored caps?
ER I don’t mean to be offensive but nobody plays the part of an idiot here better than you.
Hi Pete?
Are you in a class for “special” people?
Ha
Guys, please tell me that they’re NOT doing 90210 again. Is it the Kids of 90210?
I might’ve missed it but what’s up with the Yankees caps? Why are they wearing different colored caps?
Welcome Back Veteran Week, it’s this week and September 11th weekend.
Cano with the glove and the bat today
Guys, please tell me that they’re NOT doing 90210 again. Is it the Kids of 90210?
Yes they are.
What a play by Robi
That was Jeter’s ball, but VERY nice play.
Keep up the good defense, guys.
And flash that leather, Robbie; that’s absolutely remarkable range right there.
That’s exhibit A for why Robbie Cano doesn’t miss Larry Bowa. He might be struggling with the bat as much as the next guy, but his defense is phenomenal, and doesn’t take his at-bats onto the field with him.
fallen phoenix-
i guess it’s just what kind of bet you want to make. i assume rookies will be erratic and not give consistent innings. i assume it takes 6 -7 starters to end up with 5 because of injuries.
people forget this is the first time that cashman has tried to develop young pitching. he’s learning as he goes. if by some miracle he stays, i doubt he’ll go into another season the way he did this year leaning so heavily on innings from young pitchers.
and i do agree his bets were based on 900 runs from the offense. if that happened he wouldn’t be looking so bad. but it hasn’t happened and cashman’s stock has slipped considerably .
a sweep by the red sox and his job starts to be in jeopardy. it doesn’t take much in new york for things to snowball and spiral downward.
You know what, win or lose it’s a lot more enjoyable to watch a team that’s energized (today) than a team that looks lethargic (two days ago).
I have to say, I like the way this game is going so far. A win today and Joba tomorrow will call off the dogs for a few days
Cano is the only second baseman in baseball who can make that play.
Just remarkable. How many second baseman do you ever see make plays on the shortstop side of second and then have the arm to make that throw with their momentum going away from first.
The dwarf Pedroia looks like the cross between a racoon and an eagle!
Hr by Drew?
I have no problem carrying 3 catchers since Jorge misses probably 2 or 3 games behind the plate every week, but why does Moeller never get a start?
You know what, win or lose it’s a lot more enjoyable to watch a team that’s energized (today) than a team that looks lethargic (two days ago).
Mike without a doubt. When they play energized baseball and lose it just makes you kind of sad. When they play lethargic baseball and lose it really pisses you off.
Nicely done, Mr. Moose!
mel July 5th, 2008 at 4:31 pm
Guys, please tell me that they’re NOT doing 90210 again. Is it the Kids of 90210?”
All new kids with Kelly(Jennie Garth) as a guidance counselor and Brenda (Shannon Doherty) popping up as lord knows what. No more Tori Spelling supposedly…I think they are even bringing back a new Peach Pit.
Oh..joy?
Dangerous pitch…for Drew.
Nice finish for Stubborn Old Man.
I was wondering that too. I understand why they are keeping three catchers, but then shouldn’t they be using Moeller at least a bit more randomly to keep him fresh should he be needed?
SA-
All I’s can say is, thank god I don’t have that channel. Otherwise I might get sucked into it.
I already have one train wreck to watch on a daily basis.
Mark, BBB and I have been asking that same question about Moeller just about every day and I asked Pete to ask Girardi about it but it isn’t as sexy as giving us information about “the legendary Pat Venditte” I guess.
YAWN!
Good, bases will be empty next time Manny comes up. This is Moose’s All-Star audition today, not too bad so far.
Damn. You got robbed there, Brett.
Angel, now that makes 4 of us asking!
Maybe Pete’ll wake up and ask the question. It’s an important one!
Ohhhh you got lucky Lowell
Gardner’s slow mo looks like Cano and Giambi in real time.
cb
just curious.
if a play is made in another players zone, who gets credit for it in zone ratings?
did jeter get credit for that play by cano?
My husband watched the trainwreck known more commonly as “A Shot at Love” – first and second seasons.
I’m rather embarrassed to type that, actually. lol.
geez how many hard hits balls is gardner gonna hit that keep finding people…keep it up brett..they’ll find holes
mel-If Shannon is def back on that show as Brenda..I may just get sucked into watching.
Damn my love for tv garbage!!
Speaking of garbage…come on Yankees!!!
Brett & Melky sitting next to each other in the dugout.. how sweet.
BRANDON, What did Brett say this Spring Training?
We take this game I might actually get a good night’s sleep. I swear losses affect my sleeping patterns!
Its not like Moeller is a bad catcher and it would hurt them to play him over the alternatives. If anything I’ve heard it said he has a very good baseball mind and calls a good game.
Of course, you’ve figured out that the train wreck I’m talking about is our beloved Yankees!
I TOLD ya we’d get to Masterson.
Good guess yes? Ha ha!
Fear the stache right now.
randy, Cano gets credit for an OOZ play. Jeter loses credit for not making a play in his zone, I think. It depends on the system.
Interestingly, Pedroia just missed a play that he probably could have made; that was a much easier defensive play than Cano’s last inning, anyhow.
Not to knock on Pedroia, who is a good, young second baseman (although his deciding to hit like Ted Williams from the middle of June has a lot to do with his current batting line). But he doesn’t really come close to Cano either offensively or defensively, Cano’s offensive struggles this season notwithstanding.
Even if the Yankees get swept, I don’t see Cashman’s job in jeopardy. Everyone assumes Hank and Hal are going to operate the same way as their father, but there really hasn’t been any evidence of that. Sure, Hank can be vocal in the press, but thus far, it’s been a lot of bluster, but not a lot of bite. And even then, he hasn’t said much (if anything) vocally that doesn’t jell with Cashman’s organizational philosophy or current strategy.
I wonder if Hank is vocal, in part, to take pressure off this team? Whenever Hank talks, the media stops and makes him the story – and that puts a narrower light that shines directly on Cashman, Girardi, or their players. Just something to think about.
Bases loaded, one out. Let’s do this.
So now it is up to Betemit to break the RISP curse.
Not a good bet.
Jason didn’t listen to the ’stache with that swing. It would have told him not to swing.
Jason must not have faith in Bet to be swinging at 2 balls like that.
How do you strike out there…that’s just losing baseball.
Giambi that was a very unproductive at bat!!
How this offense was ever thought to score 900 runs based on 2 people last year having career years because of contracts.
They just suck! With an offense like this, they should just take the simple 1-0 forfeit.
2 hard hits by Bet and no basehit to show for it…wow
this team sucks with RISP.. Not a damn flyball when you need one!!
After Arod did his thing I was going to ask who you’d rather have up in that situation, Alex or Giambi…
Damn!
A lot of nice lateral movement on Masterson’s pitches, I’ll give that for him. I think that helps for when he throws inside the zone; Yankee batters (speaking specifically of Giambi’s strikeout pitch, and the 0-1 on Betemit) seem to expect that pitch to run back over the plate, and when it doesn’t, that leads to bad swings on pitches just outside the strike zone.
Two hard hit balls by Betemit today that finds leather. It’s easy to rag on the Yankees for not taking advantage of that opportunity, but Wilson hit that ball on the screws. Not much more you can ask from him.
Also a good play by Pedroia, making up for Jeter’s grounder that got through earlier that inning.
how many LOB is that for the year?
Is anyone surprised they didn’t score there? We’ve seen this movie before and we know how it ends.
the fallen phoenix- how ya like my glove nah!
That was gross..
I’m not sure. But I figure if you’re going to have him on the roster, you may as well use him sometimes. I realize he’s a “just in case” scenario, but given how snakebitten the Yankees have been with injuries this year, you’d think they’d want to keep him semi-fresh. Its not like he’s a significant downgrade over Molina.
Guess he wants to keep it in on Manny.
Good job moose !
That was too bad. Betemit really hit that hard.
Moose pitching his heart out. We might need it today. Please keep it going Moose. You’re looking great.
Hey folks, I am once again not able to watch the game or follow along much, but I did follow along for that half inning of wasted opportunity.
Superficial observation: in recent years past, the Yanks don’t always cash in on that kind of inning either, but it didn’t seem to hurt their confidence because they knew thay had run up the opposing pitcher’s pitch count and would likely get more chances against him or the opposing bullpen.
Too many times this year, it seems like the Yanks get a chance at a big inning early on and, after failing to cash in, let down and start to press and stop working counts as well as the game progresses.
I have no idea if that has any real validity, but it’s not the first time that’s occured to me. The blew the chance to blow the game open there; now how do they react?
Why does it seem EVERYtime the yankees have either bases loaded or runners on 2nd,3rd… we cant get ONE run across. While our opponents get in this positions and ALWAYS seem to capitalize.
I just dont get it anymore… WHY is this happening?????
Another web gem that won’t make it. Dammit!
AWESOME MELKY!
Haha.. sunglasses went flying. Nice catch by Melky.
Melky with the defense, ie stay to my right son to Gardner.
oh ,that was a thing of beauty.
mussina hits manny twice in a row.
if he hits him a third time , i’m becoming an instant mussina fan.
“His hot zone is after making an out” haha
Will Cashman get a bat at the deadline?
I think they press too much when they get RISP.
As to why, well I think there are a few reasons.
HA HA HA HA HA!
The only reason Manny isn’t slapping Youklis with a backhand is because he’s on base.
What a gross creature Youklis is. In fact, they have quite a few on the Red Sox.
That’s it Moose!
GO YANKS!
Mariah I’ve never seen Mussina not do that. It’s not only from the stretch.
randy,
With regards to the play by cano and zone rating it depends on which zone rating system is used.
That’s a good example of why I think relative zone rating is a more dependable fielding statistic than the regular zone rating is. Relative zone rating is more conservative in its approach.
In zone rating nearly the entire field is divided up and assigned to fielders. In relative zone rating each fielder’s zone of responsibility is defined more narrowly. There’s more area that is considered to be out of a fielder’s zone.
That ball Cano fielded was pretty close to up the middle. That ball would be considered in Jeter’s zone for zone rating. So for zone rating that Jeter would get dinged for not making the play and Cano would get credit for making an extra play.
For relative zone rating I’d guess that that ball would be considered out of Jeter’s zone and out of Cano’s zone. Relative zone rating allows for more plays in “no man’s land.” So for relative zone rating I think Cano would get credit for an extra play made out of zone. Jeter wouldn’t get dinged but also wouldn’t get credit for making a play out of zone.
That’s my general sense of the play. These defensive statistics are basically proprietary so its difficult to know how each is specifically calculated for a particular play. But I believe that would be how that play would go.
Youkilis is definitely not an attractive man. But he can flat out hit, and his defense is nice (yes, it pained me to acknowledge that), and I guess that matters more than being eye candy while you play.
Go Moose Go!
Do we dare try and actually score some runs now?
Theres a good chance that Manny will be playing LF/RF for the Yankees next year!!!
By the way, I like the way Moose seems to be handling Manny — I hope he’s really plunking him and not just dinking him with the knuckle curve.
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This blog is part of a newspaper and as such, there are standards.
Thanks.
still w/ that 1st pitch swinging, what the hell is the scouting report on Masterson that they are following ?
Oh NO! Hope he’s okay.
Nice going. Well tit for tat I guess.
Why did it take so long for Joe G to get out of the dugout to Robbie. He’s hobbling around the plate man get off your duff and do something. Make it look like you care.
Well..he’s on base
What’s Masterson trying to do make it look like that wasn’t a purpose pitch to Robby? Ha ha ha!
Geeze, Molina is sure due!
Not to mention that Cano’s a terrible baserunner.
Argh.. i’m so frustrated with warning track shots.
That at bat by Giambi with the bases loaded was a perfect example of why Giambi’s statistics this year are so misleading.
He has a .947 OPS – just fantastic. 18 HR, a .397 OBP and a 550 Slg %. All great numbers. That said he’s just not driving in enough runs.
He’s hitting .197 with RISP. Cano who has been horrendous this year is hitting .241 with RISP.
I can’t recall a player having such an enormous gap in his OPS and his BA with RISP. Giambi is basically only driving in runs when he hits a HR.
Giambi didn’t change his approach in that at bat at all. He just tried to pull the ball and hit it as hard as possible to the left side (the side overloaded in the shift to begin with).
Its those kind of at bats that are killing this team.
that was ball for to Melky, lack of discipline.. not a big suprise…….
giambi 1 for 11 with the bases loaded.. this lack of clutch hitting is epidemic and team wide..
this team is the least clutch I might have ever seen……
NO ONE ON THIS TEAM HAS BEEN CLUTCH THIS YEAR.. NO ONE….
IF they are counting on the Yankees pitching a shutout today they are playing with alot of fire….
again clowns it is the zilionaires who are failing on this team..
cb and fallen phoenix-
thanks for the zone ratings info. i knew there was some confusion over that type of play with cano. it seems unfair that jeter would be penalized for it though.
i think when there are giambi type shifts there are also some odd decisions on who gets credit for plays made.
angel- i could not agree more. carl pavano sure is a good looking guy.
Gardner,
Don’t be so tough on yourself. The others aren’t having much luck either.
Peter, I’d like your thoughts. You’ve spent the last month pushing to get Gardner up and Melky on the bench. From what I have seen I really don’t see it. I like Gardner’s style and approach fine for a slapper but I’d take Melky’s ceiling over Gardner’s. I know its a small sample size but he’s not quite what I was hoping for.
Yankees don’t look very scary right now. Amazing that Mussina hasn’t given up a bomb or two.
debbie,
Is he still good looking? We haven’t seen him in a long time.
Mariah I think Yankees pitching looks much scarier than Yankees hitting. Why would you think Moose would be giving up bombs? He’s been amazing so far!
The tough part about Yankees not hitting and getting him run support is it makes it that much more critical for Mooser to be spot on.
mel – hopefully it will be a lot longer!
Yeah you just can’t leave the bases loaded with one out and not deliver.
PLEASE Yankees come through. I have to leave for a cookout in an hour or so and I definitely want to go with some peace of mind.
another wasted outing by Moose. Pitches his heart out and yanks can’t score. I know Masterson is pitching well, but common you’ve had bases loaded all season and this team can’t score
Except Debbie, Carl doesn’t even look good while he’s playing, because he doesn’t play.
He likes to watch.
I was really disappointed not to see Lugo in the lineup…
debbie,
Can you picture him, all fat and bald? I better shut up. He might be our saviour. lol.
“i think when there are giambi type shifts there are also some odd decisions on who gets credit for plays made.”
randy,
there still a lot that’s lacking in zone rating. For instance, it doesn’t take into account a fielder’s positioning at all.
So for the example you brought up – the shift – its really useless for infielders.
If Giambi goes the other way and hits the ball to the empty third base hole the third baseman gets penalized for that despite the fact that he’s not even positioned there.
Conversely, the shortstop makes a play on the other side of second and he gets credit for making an extra play.
Fortunately, extreme shifts only count relatively few plays over the course of a season.
Its those kinds of issues (fielding position, etc.) that were the reason why John Dewan developed his +/- system for the Fielding Bible. That’s the best way to measure defensive value but I believe the results only come out at the end of the year publicly.
Ugh. Didn’t like the play and didn’t like the stink eye, Mike!
Wow! Molina can throw!
Nice play to get out Speedy Gonzalez.
YOU DO NOT RUN ON MOLINA !
Ellsbury definitely safe if Jorge were behind the plate.
Unfortunately kids this is the kind of pitching you need when your offense is scuffling. Hope we don’t need to take this game 1-0 but if we do then we do.
That’s why Molina plays folks. He’s only catcher on the roster who can throw the ball.
If the Yankees offense is so bad that they need Molina to hit, then its time to call it a year.
The guy has been fantastic stopping the running game this season.
I know this isn’t a great picture of her but I never thought much of Arod’s wife. She always looks kind of dirty to me like she never washes up. Not a great head either.
http://www.nydailynews.com/img.....riguez.jpg
Moose is loose today!
Now, Yankee offense, can we get him some run support?
That’s why Molina plays folks. He’s only catcher on the roster who can throw the ball.
Moeller can throw the ball too SJ. I know you haven’t seen him in a long time and probably forgot.
Any time we have one of our pitchers allowing a lot of things to get into the deep outfield, it always seems like a matter of time before one goes out. Or drops in.
We’ve gotten some deep shots off Masterson.
Molina must have one of the best arms in the game. He took a slow Mussina pitch and flung it to Cano to nab Ellsbury, one of the fastest runners in the league. Molina was up to 43% of base runners caught before this series…I think he’s thrown out 2 base runners in the 2 games he has caught in addition to that.
Oh shut up Timmeh!!
Argh, it infuriates me when he talks for the sake of talking, and just looks completely uninformed.
cb,
i actually own a fielding bible by dewan. i had to buy one to argue with hmmm two winters ago over questions about jeter’s range. lol.
i’ll take a closer look in the fall when i get more time. i do think defense is huge and once it can be measured it’ll be a big step forward.
they need to put gps chips on players though. when that happens defensive metrics will get much more accurate.
Bucholz at 5.53 is pitching great?
Uh, okay.
Ohhhhh…I may have to switch to Sterling and Waldman. This telecast is sickening me…
However true it may be…
In my opinion Clay Bucholz is doing a great job. However, Joba Chamberlain and his 2.22 ERA has been a pathetic excuse for a starter.
Why do Joe Buck and Tim McCarver even talk? They’re making it sound like the Yankees are 100% outside players and the Red Sox are all home grown
Ken Rosenthal says stupid things too.
Buckholz was getting shelled before his stupid little nail injury.
…who cares how he’s doing down in the minors!
McCarver ha ha ha ha ha ha!
Zach in Port Jeff,
Do not be jealous of the young talent in the Red Sox system. They have always had young talent going back to the days of Brandon Arroyo.
Listening to Joe and Tim is like hearing a women when she is giving birth
“The Yankees would kill to have a guy like Buccholz waiting in the wings.”
This is one of many reasons, Joe Buck, why you are unqualified to be commentating on baseball.
And Ken Rosenthal is an idiot, too. The Yankees *are* retooling. The Yankees also have *plenty* of (potentially) impact players, they’re just not ready for the majors yet. Why is this so difficult for people to understand? The Yankees farm system has been rated by every major publication to have better pitching, top to bottom, than every team in baseball not named the Tampa Bay Rays.
god i hate these 2 chimps so much
Wow, am I watching FOX or NESN? It’s hard to tell with these announcers.
man the lovefest with the sux is on as we listen…
I think Ellsbury will be better then melky but be real so far they annoint ellsbury as a g-d…
Molina is a phenomenal defensive catcher who is a horrible offensive catcher…
these guys talk about the minor leagues but they have no clue, none……..Cano is 25 pedroia I think is the same, they are so unfair it is head hsacking…
McCarver stop you’re making me die laughing!!!!!
god bless the mute button
No one is jealous of anything. Least of all anything said by Tim McCarver as gospel.
A-rod’s SB success rate is much better than Ellsbury.
And it just went up some more.
WP
I hate buck and mccarver, but by no means will I EVER switch to the radio. Sterling and Waldman are worse.
This game bores me, can we end it already so I can go home and watch Desperate Housewives?
Pete, if you’re expecting the Yanks to go on another run like last year after the all star break, you’re being dumb.
This season was over when Wang went down
That is so annoying.
Arod thinking about the things Madonna said she’d do to him if the Yankees won today.
Sux will score this inning.
Jeez Louise…why can’t we score another run..
No he can’t Mark. That’s why he has moved around a lot in his career.
He isn’t in the same class of thrower as Molina.
If he was, with the dearth of catching in the game, he wouldn’t be a third catcher on the Yankees and have cleared waivers twice already this season.
lucky for a-rod!!!
now he can just stand at 3rd and wait for Gardner to bring him his glove.
funny how things work.
Bostons defense is killing the yanks today….
rasner had a sub 1 ERA in AAA that i all you need to know….
ellsbury has less then 500 AB’s and he is ricky henderson to these guys….
please Yanks win this game….
The best duo is Cone & Singleton on YES. Or any combo that doesn’t include Michael Kay.
Anyone know how to say a novena? I’ll do it if you tell me how! I REALLY want the Yankees to win this game today. We REALLY REALLY need the win.
Don’t forget about me Yankees fans! I’ll be doing tomorrow nights game! Wait till you hear the story I have about how they used to call the Centerfield Bleachers in Yankee Stadium “Ruth Way”. What’s that? You say that’s not true? It doesn’t matter cause no one will ever prove me wrong on the air.
And don’t even think of talking about those newfangled OPS stats tomorrow.
This is why I can’t take media police like Raissman and M&MD ripping the YES announcers for being homers. YES is a regional network. Its announcers have every right to be biased, just as NESN’s announcers do. They should focus more on the national networks that are -supposed- to be impartial yet consistently crap all over the Yankees.
Hr by Warlock-Hairs?
I’m surprised you know how to spell OPS, Joe. I’m really, really proud of you.
Gotta hit Manny again, Moose. It’s worked for you all game, so keep on chugging away.
Joe Morgan-you should have made this site your “website” instead of espn.com:
http://www.firejoemorgan.com/
I might treat myself to a piece of cake of Mussina gets Man-Ram out.
Big test right here…let’s go Moose!
SJ44, uh yeah he can throw.
I know you don’t like to be contradicted but you have been shown to be wrong here.
If not for his stellar defense, 51s catcher Chad Moeller probably would be out of baseball, not awaiting a September call-up to the Los Angeles Dodgers.
“Offense is something I constantly work on, but if my defense isn’t there, they won’t give me a chance to play anymore,” the 32-year-old Moeller said. “Plain and simple, if that disappears, then it’s time to go home.”
Now stop talking just to talk. PLEASE!
Again, that at bat by Giambi just shows how strange and problematic he is at a hitter.
1-0 game. Your team is not scoring runs. ARod does a great job stealing second and third.
The entire left side of the infield is open due to the shift. Its was so open that ARod walked to third base on that steal because cora was nowhere in sight.
But instead of trying to hit the ball the other way with the man on third he pulls the ball again.
He hit the ball hard down the line. For any other hitter that’s a double. But with the shift on its an easy play for Youklis.
Very tough to score runs when your five hole hitter is hitting .190 with RISP.
Giambi’s having a very strange season. Better than one could have expected coming into the year, but given most of his numbers its disappointing how many runs he’s leaving out on the field when he’s not hitting home runs.
hit him in the wrist !
Joe Buck: Good fastballs > Mike Mussina’s 90 MPH.
One pitch later:
“Manny swings through a good [90 MPH] fastball, count 1-2.”
Location, location, location. It’s not just about velocity.
Oh come on, that umpire is blind.
Look McCarver and Morgan have GOT to stop! It’s tough to explain to my girlfriend why I am laughing myself silly when she walks by and sees the Yankees in such a tight game!
YESSSSSSSS!
ohhhh, this leftover cake is gonna taste like the booomb!
thanks moose!
Pete – one question – when are they going back to the regular caps?
SA,
You see SA, the thing about stats is, they are not an accurate way of comparing players. I like to compare players using a thing I like to call “feel”. For example I feel that David Wright is the greatest 3B off all time. Now if we used statistics, that assumption would be proven incorrectly. However, by using “feel” that statement is irrefutable.
Mooooooooooooooooooooose!
Run support – run support – and MORE run support.
I solve the dilemma of McCarver and Buck by putting the mute switch on.
Ever since McCarver got bounced by the Yankees, he has ripped them. After awhile, you just tune out the idiocy because these guys have no idea what they are talking about.
Can’t ask for anymore from Moose than he has given them. Not just today but all season.
Its a shame this offense is so bad they can’t muster any real support for him.
Gotta love the mental toughness by Moose against Manny. Amazing that there has been such an improvement in the mental aspects of the game for him this year, and at this rate, it looks like he can pitch this way for a long time.
Moose should have more than 10 wins already with the way he’s been pitching…
A great effort today…why can’t he get any run support?
Whatever happens, Moose did HIS job today! Those other bums better get some runs.
Awesome vindication for Moose against Manny Man.
That’s just precious Joe Morgan-now go change the website from espn.com to that other wonderful site.
Steve Nash in NY ?
LOFL!!!
Now Buck is taking shots at the Knicks!
Unbelievable…what is this?…”Kick New York while it’s down day”???
These hats through Sunday for the holiday weekend. Back to normal when we get to Tampa on Tuesday.
When Tamps gets here rather.
They just showed steve nash on the fan cam here at the stadium for those bb fans
Buck saying that he doesn’t like to watch baseball games on TV because they are too long while being employed as a TV broadcaster told me all I needed to know about how much he doesn’t think before he speaks.
Steve Nash is always in New York. He rides his little Vespa around the East Village and hangs out at all the “cool” little bars down there.
Nash always spends his summer in NYC. He owns a house I think in the village.
Morgan that’s it! I am going to have to stop reading this blog!!! I am splitting my sides!!!!!
In my opinion the New York Knicks were as bad this season as the Celtics were good this season.
I wonder if firejoebuck.com is taken already…
Why is Veras warming? Moose can handle another inning, it’s the bottom of the lineup too…Girardi please don’t ruin this.
Look baseball gods. We’ve been very faithful this season. Is it asking too much for a few RISP today? Please?
A few successful hits with RISP that is!
Cool. Two on, one out, and another chance to blow it with RISP. Also, is it just me, or does Veras pitch every game now?
Wow, that was a going out on a limb observation there, TM.
Timlin warming up for Giambi?
lets get some ruuuuuuns!
just put the ball in play!
Oh this isn’t good. Molina REALLY went out of the zone for that.
Mark, get a grip. Chad Moeller saying he can throw doesn’t mean he can throw.
There is no catching in the game. Explain to me how Moeller passed through waivers twice?
He got beat out by Wil Nieves in Washington. Are you going to tell me its because of Nieves’ bat?
I get the fact you have man love for Moeller but, he’s not a better catcher than Molina.
Molina has thrown out almost 50% of attempted baserunners this year. Has Moeller ever done that at any level?
I’ll save you the time to check. The answer is, no.
Come on Brett this is your shot.
GiDP?
Big, big spot for Gardner here!
All he has to do is put it into the outfield. PLEASE!
Thanks JR Yankees
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!!!
please do something here Brett
Yeah Gardner!
Good job, Brett.
Let’s get it done, Jetes
That’s how you manufactor a run !
The rookie showing the veterans how it’s done…
GO YANKS!
I’ll take it.
Yes, a fly ball, not a ground out! Nice job, Brett. Too bad it didn’t get a little extra lift on it.
A deep fly ball with a man on third and less than 2 outs? We could be onto something here.
They are baseball players we need for sure. Great baseball game.
“i do think defense is huge and once it can be measured it’ll be a big step forward.”
Tampa Bay. This season is actually proving to be a very interesting one in terms of baseball statistics and defense.
When baseball prospectus projected that Tampa would win 87 games or whatever it was before the season started many people thought they were crazy. They’re looking pretty good right now with regards to that prediction.
The interesting thing about what made their predicted number of wins so interesting was what the improvement was supposed to be due to.
One of the largest projected areas of improvement for Tampa was their defense. They were a poor defensive team last year. BP projected their defense to be much, much better this year. In fact, the guys at BP kind of doubted what their numbers were telling them. They weren’t certain that upgrading defense could make that much of a difference.
Tampa made what looks to be a great trade in dealing Delmon Young to the twins for Matt Garza. Young is having a terrible year and Garza looks like he’s finally fulfilling his potential.
But a key part of that trade was Jason Bartlett who was a major defensive upgrade at SS compared to what Tampa had last year.
Tampa’s defense with Longoria at third, Bartlett at SS, Iwamura at second, and Navarro behind the plate has been as good or even better than predicted. And its been a huge reason why their team was predicted to and is playing such great baseball.
Moose for 1 more!
C’mon Joe.
Good piece of hitting by Brett. Doesn’t try to do too much with it, gets the ball to the outfield, and plates a run.
It’d be nice to stop leaving so many runners on base, though. And as I type that, Jeter pulls the ball to 3rd.
Oh well, time to get to work against Boston’s bullpen (or lack thereof) next inning.
Fudging Jeter!!!!!!!!!!!!! Argh!!!!!!!!!!!
Hate to invoke that old cliche, but is sure fits-getting runs for this offense is like pulling teeth…
Melky and Brett with the 2 RBI’s today.
Took a rookie to show the veterans how to hit with the bases loaded. Work the count and look to hit the ball in the air. Simple, fundmamental hitting.
Its a shame the veteran on the team no longer practice it.
A big reason why they are so poor with RISP.
What was Moose’s pitch count? Anyone know?
How is it a 24 yr. old kid w/ 1 out knows that a sac fly is a plus but the vets don’t…Gardner today has had the best ABs out of the entire Yankee squad today. Melky, Robi first pitch swinging, swinging for the fences and getting a lucky hit here and there, meanwhile a 24 yr. old kid shows them how to manufactor a run.
Molina is a top 5 backup catcher in the league. We are lucky to have him.
I’m not wondering why Moeller isn’t playing everyday. I realize he’s the “just in case” catcher, and I don’t have a problem with them keeping him around for that reason. But I just don’t get why he isn’t being played at all – even as a late inning replacement. If Posada was having the kind of year that he was last year, I could see why they wouldn’t want to take him out under any circumstance, especially if his spot in the lineup was coming up. But thats not currently the case..
This keep stranding runners is going to come back and bite this team today.
Jeter needs to be sat for a week. He is just horrible at the plate right now.
In other news, Mo hasn’t thrown since when???
Why not go with Moose for one more, Joe?
Thank you Brett Gardner!
SJ44 you need to grow up and you need to read better. See what you can take care of first Mr. “GIAMBI HAS GOT TO GO!”
I didn’t say Moeller has a BETTER ARM than Molina. Duh. I said he has a good arm. I said he is a better bet to get runners out right now than Jorge because Jorge’s arm isn’t so good these days. I also said that he was successful catching Rasner where Jorge and Molina has NOT been so why not use him for Rasner.
I know your claim to fame is only showing up to say negative things or to lecture us but if you read posts on a consistent basis you’d see I never said he was better than Molina.
Oh yeah. The person who said Moeller had STELLAR DEFENSE was the sportswriter writing the article, not Moeller.
CB: don’t forget moving B.J. Upton from 2nd (where he was an absolute butcher) to center (where he’s approximately league average). That’s actually one great thing bringing Longoria up (and trading for Barlett) did: it allowed the Rays to completely retool their infield, which was absolutely atrocious last season.
Making those bullpen deals last year are paying off, too. A lot of people questioned the logic of remaking Tampa Bay’s bullpen last season, considering good bullpens are generally luxuries reserved for good teams. But those were great, forward-looking moves for Tampa.
I’m starting to think that SJ44 and ER are father and son.
I’d like to take a bat to Crisp too!
Moose was at 89 pitches and looked great. I don’t know about pulling him.
I guess we’re headed for Veras in the 7th and Farnsworth in the 8th?
Moose was at 89 pitches. You take the good outing and say thanks.
No matter what happens to this season (likely being shut out of the playoffs)…this team needs to be blown up period. Here is my wish list:
1. Move Derek Jeter: enough is enough, it used to be that his batting average and situational hitting bailed out his so-so fielding ability, but no longer. It’s time to stop letting him pull a Brett Farve on us and move him to the outfield.
2. Move Arod to shortstop. Complementing this should be allowing the best shortstop on the team to…wait for it, PLAY SHORTSTOP for God’s sake!
3. Get Mark Texieria. Our farm system for position players is just pathetic (please no Jose Tabata jokes). Spend the money here instead of on Giambi’s underwear. Thanks.
4. Third basemen, this is tougher. As much as it pains me to say Wilson Betemit – we might have to swallow that one.
5. Trade Giambi or Matsui as soon as you can (which is not anytime soon). Both are declining rapidly and their futures should be measured in months, instead of years.
Gotta get ready to go. Do you think you get credit for a novena by just say you’re willing to do it?
All I can say is I pray the game continues to go in the direction it is. This will be one of the Yankees finest outings if it does and something to build on.
Today Girardi is looking like a genius…
Pujols is so good, he’s easily the best all around hitter in baseball STILL.
I’m not quite sure if he’s really 28 but man oh man is he underpaid.
Veras is turning into a bankable reliever!
It’s my willingness to say the novena!!!
Keep it going Angel, Zach, McCarver, Morgan and the rest!
Nice job, Veras. I’m really liking his pitching.
Rock on Veras!!
He has been very good…
“It’s time to stop letting him pull a Brett Farve on us and move him to the outfield.”
That’s a pretty dumb analogy.
I hope we win this game, however there’s a lot left to be desired with the team when runners are in scoring position. hopefully we solve these problems soon and make a big run in the second half.
Rock on Veras!!
He has been very good…
When he locates he’s unhittable, when he doesn’t he’s Farnsy.
Javier Lopez is kinda sorta cute.
Um..hello Sidney Ponson?
A couple of insurance runs right here sure would take the edge off…
Mark,
Take your blankie and just relax.
Anybody who thinks the “Yankees can win it all with the players they have” really shouldn’t be discussing personnel moves.
Didn’t Moose throw about 110 pitches in his last start or the start prior to his last start? If that’s the case, perhaps Girardi didn’t want him overdoing it.
He has a hard time with back to back 100+ outings.
Girardi is really going to have go easy on Moose and Andy because if they burn out, he has nobody.
I didn’t have much of a problem with him going to Veras because I have a ton of confidence in Veras. He’s been very, very good this season.
I just don’t want to see 2 innings out of him. Two inning outings take too much out of relief pitchers.
Veras has been gold.. huge find, yeah the minor the yanks have stink and they never develop anyone.. he was let go by Tampa a few yrs. ago………..
He is a lot better then Kyle, that is a big problem…..
Veras is much better so far then delcarmen and those great homegrown bosux pitchers…..
What’s incredible about Pujols is that it’s questionable whether he’s ever played a full season while completely healthy. He seems to be dealing with a different kind of injury every single season, but he never allows it to take him off the field or affect his production. It’s just amazing.
I’m not convinced moving A-Rod to short is an option, at this point. He’s thickened up over the last couple of years, and I think that would really affect his lateral movement at short. The time to move Jeter to center was, ideally, when A-Rod was brought in: considering the Yankees’ center field issues at that time (aging Bernie Williams), it made a lot of sense for a lot of reasons.
Not to say that you can’t make a similar transition now, but it wouldn’t be ideal; Jeter won’t have the same amount of time to get acclimated to center, he’s older (so he’s slowed down a bit, and will affect his ability to cover ground out there), and his bat continues to slip (although at that point, it’ll be hard to carry his bat at any position).
I don’t think Jeter is done offensively, though. He won’t get much better moving forward, I don’t think, but I think he has a couple more productive season with the bat left. And who knows? Perhaps not having to play such intensive defense at short actually allows him to focus on hitting and delay the slide.
The Yankees do not have a terrible farm system for position players. Aside from Jackson, however, they’re all in the lower minors. Take a look at Charleston’s roster: it’s filled with potential high-impact position players, and I think a good number of them are going to make a lot of noise in coming years.
When he locates he’s unhittable, when he doesn’t he’s Farnsy.
That’s true. When he’s on..he’s on..
When he’s off…grab some vodka.
It’s Robertson’s time to enter the rivalry if you ask me.
MMMMMMMMMMOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
“It’s Robertson’s time to enter the rivalry if you ask me.”
No one asked.
who is “john giambi” ??
I stand corrected. My bad.
I was the poster saying its the starting pitching, not the offense, but after watching todays game with our Yankees facing Bob Gibson the first 6 innings and now facing Sudden Sam McDowell (I`m dating myself) its frustrating they cannot do a thing with the bat.
Also why cant Joe let Veras pitch the next inning? he was dominant and threw only a handful of pitches
If the score stays at 2-0, I guess Farnsworth will pitching the 8th…
This will be a true test for him…protecting a 2-0 lead against Boston…
That’s the best picture you could find of Big Stein???
Damn you Fox!
“john giambi” is “jason girardi’s” cousin.
geez, i wish i could be so unprepared for my job.
The issue with taking Mussina out of the game in the 6th wasn’t the fact that you have to use Veras for the 8th.
Pulling Mussina in the 6th pretty much guarantees farnsworth is going to pitch the 8th.
I’d rather have saved Veras for the 8th.
Farnsworth with a 2-0 lead in the 8th is not going to be easy. Good chance the tying runs is going to come to the plate.
But I guess Farnsworth is the guy Girardi trusts as this 8th inning guy so pulling Moose in the 6th sets up the game exactly as Girardi wanted it.
I think because even though he only threw a handful of pitches, its the effort he used to throw those pitchers i.e he threw them very hard.
*pitches not pitchers.
Ugh.
Farnsy time?
CB,
Good point…I would rather see Veras in the 8th too, but we’ll say-maybe Farnsworth will prove himself today…
GO YANKS!
Please, Farnsworth, please don’t hit anybody.
We need six outs, not a brawl.
Speaking of vodka…time to grab my bottle..Krazy Kyle time..
Lord help us..
Here we go people.
john giambi is jasonsdad..
fasten your seat belt kyle is coming in.. and pray..
arod cannot play SS anymore look at him…
Grab the rails everybody !
I meant, “we’ll see”
2 more to go…hold on!
I hope Kyle rewards Girardi’s faith in him today, for Mussina’s sake.
1 more!
Another putrid day so far by the yankee offense. This is playing out like a broken record. When does this worm turn. I have a feeling 2 runs is not gonna win todays game.
1 more
cb-
so how do the yankees make moves like tampa bay did and improve their defense next year? getting a good fielding first baseman is probably the first step.
outfield defense?
let abreau go?
it looks on the surface the only place to improve is left field and first base.
i suppose there are better center fielders out there than melky, but he’s not bad.
How many games since we put up double digits in hits?
Damn Molina’s had some bad luck
Ack, that looked as unpleasantly painful as the hit in the goolies.
I’m ready and waiting for the girlfriend. Why does Farnsworth feel he has to hit someone? Just win this game!
Poor Molina. Ouch
Molina defensively is so good, he should catch everyday, and let Moller give him a day off once a week. Posada should Dh and play first since they have room with matsui and Damon being out
Got to love those Molinas.
Is there some sort of affliction that makes our pitchers hang sliders to pedroia?
if Ellsbury gets the ROY award over Longoria, then something is definitely wrong.
And Farnsworth answers the call!
Nice job by Kyle there.
Is there some sort of affliction that makes our pitchers hang sliders to pedroia?
We like keeping our OF on thier toes.
Outta here.
One of the best played Yankee games I’ve seen in a while.
Like Girardi says you have to be able to win these games too.
KEEP IT UP YANKEES!
ok it’s obvious now mark is a troll, he played it off not like a complete idiot so he got us. Ok now we know.
Even though the Yanks left alot of men on base again it has been a great defensive game on both sides. Pedroia’s catch saved at least a run or 2 and same with the Youkoulis nab.
Props to Cano, good work buddy.
Good job by Krazy
Hello Timlin..
I got to be fair. I have been the president of the “get rid of Farnsworth” club, but to be fair thats two or three big spots hes worked in and done well. I got to say it
cano is a great fielder.. who is better then him?/ His range is incredible and so is his arm..
his D has not suffered with his offensive issues….
krazy kyle 1-2-3, that does not happen to often.. Imagine there pen being this good and the team so bad….
A few insurance runs would be nice.
Is it too much to ask your broadcasters to say players’ names correctly?
He’s butchered Fukudome’s first name every time. Pronounces it how a chowdahead would.
Yankees are “still trying to replace Joba in the 8th inning role”? Is that so, Ken Rosenthal? I thought Kyle Farnsworth just did a pretty good job there.
Again with the farm systems? These guys are all idiots.
these guys are clueless why woudl the Yanks want Fuentes?/ Again there pen is good and they only have like 3 or 4 arms that are legit in the minors…….
Mccarver and buck really are clueless… thee guys have no idea, this is what they do for a living.. I do this for fun and know more then them…….
the yanks are the only ones who can make timlin look good.. he is horrible….
if the yanks go south they can trade Kyle also so maybe even krazy kyle could be a trading chip….
Dustin Pedroia 4.70 RFg, .987 FPCT
Robinson Cano 5.27 RFg, .986 FPCT
I got to be fair. I have been the president of the “get rid of Farnsworth†club, but to be fair thats two or three big spots hes worked in and done well. I got to say it
I think many of us are members of that fan club, including myself. He will probably always scare the living crap out of me(and a lot of other people), but when he gets the job done..he gets it done. He did good today.
If you ask me, the Yankees can stand to improve their SS, 1B, and RF defense. Even that is assuming Molina is C, because Jorge’s not exactly a standout behind the plate, even if his shoulder gets better next year. Of course, if you want to fit Matsui into this offense, he’ll have to DH, so you’re stuck with Jorge behind the plate, unless you transition him to 1B, although I doubt he’d carry a productive glove there.
How they’re going to improve SS defense is beyond me; Jeter’s entrenched there at least through the length of his current contract (2010), and I don’t think he has the arm to anchor RF. You could make a case for putting Jeter in CF and Cabrera (or Gardner) in RF, but Damon/Jeter/Gardner/Cabrera is going to be a very light-hitting outfield next year.
And then you’d need to find out what you do about SS; the former attorney general can more than hold his own defensively there, but then you’re getting into the issue of doing nothing to improve the team’s offense. I guess moving Jeter to 1B is an option, too.
I think it’ll take a lot of moving parts to really get the Yankees to field effective two-way players throughout their eight positional players. Right now all they have are Cano, A-Rod, and Damon in that respect…
It’s MO TIME!!!!
come on Mo
randy,
that’s a very good question. The two clear biggest areas where the team can improve defensively next year are first base and right field. Giambi is well, giambi. Its fortunate Cano is playing next to him. Abreu started out OK this season defensively but the past two months have not been good ones for him out in the field.
Those are the two clearest positions to change. Damon has terrific range in left – really gotten to a lot of balls. Melky has been very good in CF. Whether its him or Gardner there next year they’re OK in CF. Cano is terrific at 2b.
The tough part to make sense of is the left side of the infield. Not a lot of flexibility there. ARod is an above average to good defensive 3b. Jeter has been good defensively this year (better than Bartlett, ironically).
I don’t know what you do with the left side of that infield. ARod is clearly going to be at third. I don’t see them moving Jeter off the position and he’s been OK.
The yankees are a strange defensive team. The sum of the parts defensively seems worse than the individual components.
For the team to take that next step forward defensively they need to add more team speed and would probably need to upgrade at SS because its such an important position. Jeter’s been good defensively this year but its hard to be an outstanding defensive team without a great defensive SS. Tampa can do it because they have very good defenders nearly everywhere.
Manny’s the Sox the Yankees like the most and he’s been plunked 3x.
Let’s go, Mo.
Mo you making me nervous
still no worries…
mo will get it done!
man, it’s really hard for us to win a game these days
Mo will end this, don’t worry.
What are you doing, Mo?
I told ya 2 runs weren’t gonna get it done.
If Mo loses this game then I know this year isn’t the year for the Yanks.
Please Mo. Come on!
what the HELL is going on ?
We cant seem to get a clean win, no matter what. Now Mariano is blowing the save. I should have gone down to the lake to swim, i cant take it anymore!!
Oh c’mon. The Yankees can’t be THAT unlucky. Hope Moose gets a groundball for a much needed double play.
Strike out Youkilis, and then get a double play?
I think today we faced the weakest combination of red sox pitchers.
Masterson is their 4th or 5th starter, Rod is not one of their high end rp`s and Timlin well, is timlin, and we manage only 6 hits and two runs, one on a sacfly?
Got to give it to the bosox hitters, they battle, I`m not so sure we do
give it to bosox hitters, they battle, I am not so sure we do
this is unreal we can not lose this game, just incredible, mo hits 2 guys
Why can’t anything be easy for us..
wow, Mo with the uncommon lack of control.
We can’t buy a win, can we?
What a joke.
Oh crap he’s human today
This game is offically over !! Mo has to be pulled or something right now he has no stuff today.
Did that really hit him? I want to see that replay again!
…are you serious? What in the–? This is just…this is just incredibly bizarre.
Granted, I always like the Yankees’ chances against Papelbon, even if the Red Sox tie the game here. But…
i literally just threw up after that. Yankees are done for the season. Maybe if I turn off the tv, and check the late evening news i will be pleasantly surprised
WTH is going on?!?!?
This is all my fault…watched none of the game and came home to Mo pitching the top of the inning….as I said,,,new and interesting ways to lose each game….I need a break from this collection of bums…
Um wow, Mussina really is cursed when it comes to twenty wins, it looks like.
anyone crying that Mo should be pulled doesn’t know what they’re talking about. that’s putting it nicely.
That’s it MO! You can do it!!!!!
and somehow, I cant tear myself off from the TV. What a masochist…
1 out. Keep the faith, faithless.
Seriously? Even Mo?
Oh my lord
COME ON MO!!!! 1 MORE OUT!!!!!!
That’s it! One more!!!!
one more…
This is killing me.
Lugo with the win!
2 out, 1 more Mo!
God help us!!.. Lugo strike out damnit!!
MLB and FOX sent a memo around recently that if MO comes in a game,
to prevent the opposing cities from turning off the tv, that he is required to load the bases with no outs in order to keep the playing field fair.
It used to be called the Chuck Norris mandate of 1976.
They just showed Cash. I’m really gonna go out on a limb and say this is the season right here.
…wow. Joe and Tim are actually letting the game speak for itself? Why can’t they do this more often?
YES!!!!
F***** YEAH !!!!!!!!!!
I will take that and a bag of chips.
Mo weathers the storm!!!!!
YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
HA! MO DOES IT AGAIN!! One of the best wins of the year. I jumped and clapped and woke the baby, but it was so worth it baby! Joba tomorrow.
Mo gets the save and all is right with the world.
Just the way Mo drew it up.
Whatever happened today…it was A-rod’s fault.
Great win today.
Jobber to the rescue tomorrow.
How the hell did he get out of that jam?? Damn i’m one glad man right now.
Okay who needs a double bourbon?
Finally, Moose gets his 11th win! What a game!
That was Wetteland-ish.
by the last hair on his head…..that was NOT fun !
I’m not going to lie. My heart stopped for a good three seconds there.
If it weren’t Mo, though, I probably would have passed out. Thank God it was the bottom of the Red Sox’s lineup, and thank God Mo found the strike zone.
Mo.. whew. Thats why he’s a first ballot Hall of Famer.
Note:- Don’t channel Kyle again, though.
I think I lost 2 years of my life with that inning.
Don’t do that again, Mo!
Great win!
I just got a painful headache from watching that ending but it was worth it!!
We won!
A Yankees Sox game under 3 hours. I didn’t think that was possible.
They still need to win either ALL or ALL BUT ONE of their remaining games before the All-Star break, or they will be a very desperate team in the 2nd half….and I am pretty sure the label “desperate” is not going to do them any favors…
I was just thinking that, Someone Else.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jM52Xsvw5NQ
wow…………..
Mo could not throw it inside today, but they got the W..Huge win would have been a even bigger loss..
thank you g-d…..
Ha, Lugo. Jinx.
Only Mo could get out of a bases loaded no out jam. Sweet Jesus.
We win tomorrow and sweep the Rays, and the momentum shifts…
GO YANKS!
That must have been cosmic comeuppance for Farnsworth’s 1-2-3 8th inning. That must have been.
I wonder what the appointment books for Manhattan cardiologists wwill be like tomorrow….
I am sure everyone knows, but YES has postgame.
The Rays can smell gaining another game on Boston.
I love this team and hate them all at the same time.
Brett Gardner’s presence was felt today.
Wow. Nice win. Offense still sleep-walking and Mo looking very shaky lately. I’ll take it though.
Thx Mark, didn’t know abt the YES postgame. Cool.
so good is Rivera and he can always clean up his own mess
Zach in Port Jeff July 5th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
“still no worries…
mo will get it done!”
Angel {insert random statement plus multiple !!!!!’s here} July 5th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
“What are you doing, Mo?”
Zach,
It is YOU who are the angel….Mariano has earned our faith, probably because he has so much.
As for Girardi, he has allowed Rivera to get rusty. He HAS to keep him sharp. He had ZERO location today, only guile and his own genius.
Please tell me that ESPN.com has that wrong and that the Tampa Series is Andy vs Kazmir in the first game and Ponson pitching the 2nd…
The Yankees are not THAT stupid to be facing the Division Leaders AND their Ace and put that TOAD on the mound, right ?
Until that last inning (which they should have just not played altogether), The pitching and the defense kept the RISP opportunities down to 1.
If we played defense like that more often, easily 10 more wins.
Hold frakkin’ crap. I heard on the radio that it was 2-0 in the 8th. I pulled off the highway and went to a sports bar to watch the easy save by Mo. It wasn’t so easy.
How am I supposed to drive home safely now????
If you never hear from me again, you know why.
I know Veras and Farns did a great job today, but I wanted to see more of Moose after 89 pitches. I hope he is ok.
Manny crowded the plate so badly… you can see that the next batter wasn’t so close to the plate.
Mariano Rivera is a BAMF. There is just no getting around it.
if you watch FOX cut away the half inning before mo came out, he was barely lobbing the ball. timlin got out of the bottom of the 8th so quickly, i wonder if he wasn’t ready when he came in?
Rebecca,
I hope that Mussina’s not one of those patients!
do we need bullpen help?? hard to tell right now. I think I`ll stick with my original request of needed two quality starters.
I`m sure there are some growing on trees right outside the stadium, but we need them
the yanks need to make a decision on Damon today. IF they do not DL him they should send down traber and call up another Bat
there bench is non existent, they need to make a damn move…….
bodhisattva,
i have to admit, i was pacing around like a madman.
wheeeew!
i definitely knew Captain Tek was good for an out.
This game reminded me of a game I went to where the Yanks won 1-0…Johnson vs. Wakefield. Everyone was on their feet for the last inning.
i was happy when girardi got the job, but now i am not so happy. he has left me scratching my head about a dozen times already this year.
Still shaking a little from that. LOL
Much needed win.
Joba tomorrow, maybe the bats will make their presence known vs. Wakefield?
Personally, it looked to me that Manny purposely walked right into those HBPs. But whatever the case, at least our pitchers didn’t get ejected.
The top of the ninth might have been the most insane half inning of the year, in both a good and bad way.
Jeff NJ July 5th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
“Mo will end this, don’t worry.”
Beautiful.
Maybe Jamie Moyer needs to start pitching like Mike Mussina?
Settle down Moyer..
I just pray that Joba will be super sharp tomorrow because I will not be able to bear ESPN’s Red Sox lovefest saying how great Boston’s young guys are and how not the Yanks kids are.
That was Rivera’s impression of K-Rod ……Sink or swim today, and the Yanks decided stay afloat…..
I only have one explaination for Mo pitching like the bad Farnsy tonight, He was hungover from too much drinking last night, it was July 4th Independence Day.
Mo is his own reliever lol
That’s what makes Mo so great….he had absolutely NOTHING today…his stuff was very flat, not crisp at all, no life really….plus, he had zero idea where the ball was going….yet he still managed to hold on….it reminded me of the game last year in Cleveland on a sunday where he gave up a couple of runs but still managed to get it done….i’d say that 99% of closers would’ve imploded in that spot
But you didn’t lose faith, Zach.
“i have to admit, i was pacing around like a madman.
wheeeew!
i definitely knew Captain Tek was good for an out.”
In my book, you rock!
Let’s give Melky some credit. He was the only one to get a base hit with a man in scoring position.
Good situational hitting by Gardner as well to get that fly ball to knock in the second run. He had a plan up there and executed it to make sure the run scored.
They desperately needed a win. But its still the same story. They just aren’t scoring runs. They had Masterson on the ropes a couple of times and just let him slip away. Timlin has been horrible this year and they get nothing started.
This team is just puzzling offensively.
Great win, but I thought once Timlin came in it would be at least 5, maybe 6-0.
Watch, the entire Yankees pitching staff will be suspended for pegging Manny and Youk, the MLB’s people. Whether it was intentional or not, Red Sox players should never be hit says the MLB.
don’t jump down my throat for this i hate the guy more than anyone else. almost as much as youkilis, but is it true that pavano could be back this season? if so, do you plug him in the rotation for ponson or rasner?
great win tonight–mo for cy young.
well that was different.
mo’s two seamer to righties who crowd the plate always makes me concerned about hit batters , but he’s had control of it so far this year.
and now joba tomorrow night .
since the yankees might have to beat the red sox for the wild card, big game tomorrow.
win and only 4 back.
Peter, your Gardner bias is so obvious
Mark: Yesterday was the fourth, no? I was doing things with my family and missed most of the game.
I blog after most games unless I am away or with friends. I know it sounds weird, but I do actually have a life.
CB Melky had 3 of the worst ABs I’ve seen in this month, he had 1 AB today where he took a couple of pitches but in that 2nd inning he had no plan at all, we got lucky there. As for Gardner he had 3 good AB, was robbed of 2 basehits and that sac fly was a beaut in the postgame his comments reminded me of Chuck Knoblauch when he would say “a sac fly got the job done and that’s all I was trying to do drive it deep and get a run in w/ 1 out”
Maybe a win like this wakes them up. Problem is tomorrow with Wakefield Yanks always have issues with off speed pitching
Moose was dizzy in the 6th inning. That’s why he came out.
Gardner showing good patience at the plate not going after bad pitches.
I think he’s going to be ok.
Rebecca- I know there are alot of Mark’s here, but was it me that said something? I just wanted to check with you.
I think that was a good game plan by Mo too. Whoever can hit you, hit them first, put them on until you get to batters you can get out.
” if so, do you plug him in the rotation for ponson or rasner?”
i’d plug pavano in as the number 4 bp pitcher.
he’s the one who goes out at three o’clock in the afternoon for night games if guys want extra bp.
technically the GW RBI went to Melky.
Mark: I’m not sure–check above and you’ll see.
Moose being funny:
Mo hit 2 guys because he knew that’s how many we needed to tie the record.
Rebecca- I only had a post under you today saying “what a joke”, but that was not intended at you. It was just the Sox coming back in the 9th. I don’t think it was me.
Jeff NJ,
Wouldn’t Melky’s RBI be the go ahead run?
^^^ Yeah, looks like Low Tek is on the other side of the mountain. I base this on watching him often on Major League Package, not this series, obviously. Bat has really slowed. What a pity.
Another great start by Moose. Had to be almost perfect with the Yanks lack of scoring.
With his 11th win today I hope it’s enough to get him picked for the All-Star team. He really deserves it.
You know what the scariest part of todays game was for me. Looking in the dugout after Cano got hit by the pitch and realized that our bench today consisted of Moller and Posada
O/T
Are you guys cheering for Nadal or Federer?
And should I get up at 3 in the morning to watch?
(Tennis is my first love)
Thought I’d mention this since Joe Buck and Tim McCarver were ALL over the red sox home grown talent. Active Roster Home Grown Players:
Yankees – 12
Red Sox – 10
Rays up 2-0 and not looking interested in folding their tent.
Mark: then not you. Someone else named mark mentioned me not posting after the Yankees lose…while I admit I was too pissed off after one of the Boston games to post, I didn’t post yesterday because I was otherwise occupied.
gayle,
I thought Justin Christian was called back up? Or are we carrying an extra pitcher?
Nadal
I’ll be surprised if Moose doesn’t make the All-Star team…
He should have more than 11 wins so far with the way he’s pitched this season…
Who will start for the A.L., by the way?
N.L?
The game winning rbi is technically the one that put them in the lead for good, that was Melky’s RBI. Even though they finished with a run.
You keep comparing this team to previous teams, you are forgetting that this team does not have a Posada having a career year, nor Rodrigez and the manager is kind of lost. Big difference from last year.
Not to mention a bad Mussina and how many different guys did we have starting?
So, anyone holding out hope that Girardi can manage anywhere near Torre is got to buy a clue.
I’m hopeful for a great ending, but…
AL starter has to be Cliff Lee, he had a monster start to the year. Joe Saunders definitely has a case at 12-4, 3.04. Lee is at 11-1, 2.26… I don’t know how he doesn’t start for the AL.
NL I say Brandon Webb. I think he’s the best pitcher in the game and he’s pitched like it this season. He’s at 12-4, 3.43. Edinson Volquez is 10-3, 2.24.
The AS game could very well be Cliff Lee vs. Edinson Volquez – box of Moose bars to whoever called that one pre-season lol
And count me as very happy that Manny got plunked 3 times today….If that could be a team goal every time we face them, ….. and it should be a GOOD thing EVERY time we plunk him !
‘Not to mention a bad Mussina and how many different guys did we have starting?”
Bad Mussina? Would that be the Mussina with 11 victories or the one with 11 victories?
ivera was brilliant, not what yo and the announcers said. He had a 2-0 lead, was facing four strong hitters followed by three stiffs. All he had to do was get through the four, gving up one run and loading the bases but taking no chance of a home run to tie. Also, the Red Sox had hit three Yankee batters to two fo theirs, so it was time to hit more Sox.
Thus after the single by Drew (could have been a home run, didn’t matter) he hits Manny, taking no chance of a homer AND hitting him a third time! Brilliant message!
Next he pitches away from Lowell and gives up a single, then hits Youkilis – great again!
Then he mows down the overmatched three – Crisp, Varitek and Lugo! Never in doubt! He did a great job of pretending to be wild on the first four so he didn’t get tossed, despite hitting two guys. I can’t remember a more perfect performance.
Mel I thought I saw Pete say that BUT there was nothing confirmed and certainly no corresponding move as far as I could tell
Cliff Lee would probably have 15 wins if Cleveland had any bullpen or offense, he deserves the AS start. Moose definitely made his case in front of Francona today for a roster spot though; it was also his 20th career victory against Boston.
Cliff Lee deserves the start, but it would be nice if Rivera started the game, as he was a big part of 4 championships at Yankee Stadium
“bodhisattva”
Excuse me, but I never doubted Mo would get it done – not for a second. I think my asking Mo what he was doing was MILD (and reasonable given the situation) given the amount of people who threw the game in the minute he gave up a run.
Pick on the right person next time you decide to make an example of someone’s post.
“DYNASTY IS DESTINY!
July 5th, 2008 at 8:11 pm
‘Not to mention a bad Mussina and how many different guys did we have starting?â€
Bad Mussina? Would that be the Mussina with 11 victories or the one with 11 victories?”
If you would have taken the time to read the post, I was talking about the 2007 season.
Angel,
Wasn’t so much calling out a lack of faith on your part, just was pointing up Zach’s inspiring solace that everything would be alright. It kind of reminds me of Rivera’s utter calm during the storm, and I was moved by it.
Didn’t mean to disparage you, sorry about that. I know it was just an exhortation. I’m sure you’re an angel too.
No worries.
I really just didnt want to be mistaken for one of *those* kind of knee-jerk reaction, what-have-you-done-for-me-lately fans, because I never have been. Sorry that I overreacted.