Game 89: Red Sox at Yankees
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YANKEES (46-42)
Gardner LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Posada DH
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Chamberlain RHP
RED SOX (52-38)
Ellsbury LF
Pedroia 2B
Drew RF
Lowell 3B
Youkilis 1B
Casey DH
Crisp CF
Lugo SS
Cash C
Wakefield RHP
Joba Chamberlain (2-2, 2.22) vs. the Boston hitters.
Tim Wakefield (5-6, 3.72) vs. the Yankee hitters.
Notes: Johnny Damon was placed on the 15-day DL. OF Justin Christian was recalled. … The Yankees are 2-4 on their homestand. … Abreu is 3 of his last 21. … Gardner is 1 for 16 but, in his defense, he has had some good at-bats. … Melky is 5 of his last 10. … Edwar Ramirez has thrown six consecutive scoreless innings.
Back later with updates and audio from Terry Francona on the All-Stars. Francona said he is looking forward to managing Derek Jeter. “That will be one of my highlights,” he said.
UPDATE, 7:16 p.m.: The audio of Francona’s press conference on the All-Stars is in the previous post if you are interested.
I have a bunch of newspaper work to do, so I’m not sure how many updates there will be during the game.
UPDATE, 8:14 p.m.: This from the Associated Press for those interested:
Alex Rodriguez’s wife will file for divorce Monday, according to media reports.
Cynthia Rodriguez, who married the New York Yankees star in 2002, says the marriage is over because of the All-Star third baseman’s extramarital affairs, according to reports that appeared Sunday on the Web sites of Houston television station KTRK and The Miami Herald.
The reports come just days after Alex Rodriguez was linked to Madonna in various media outlets and Cynthia Rodriguez’s subsequent visit to the Paris home of rocker Lenny Kravitz, who said she came to France to escape the media frenzy in New York and denied that anything improper had happened.
Houston attorney Earle Lilly, who said he was hired by Cynthia Rodriguez last week to launch the divorce case, told KTRK the star’s “relationship with Madonna was the final straw for Mrs. Rodriguez.â€
Rodriguez’s wife also is represented by attorneys Maurice Kutner and Anthony Sabatino, both of Miami, and John Van Ness of Houston, the Herald reported.
“She feels that she has exhausted every opportunity to salvage the marriage, and that Alex has emotionally abandoned her and the children and has left her with no choice but to divorce him,†Kutner told the newspaper.
The former Cynthia Scurtis and Rodriguez were married Nov. 2, 2002, in Dallas. They have two children, Natasha Alexander and Ella Alexander, who was born April 21.
The suit is expected to be filed early Monday in Dade County Family Court.
Lilly did not immediately return a phone call from The Associated Press.
Alex Rodriguez has refused to comment on his relationship with Madonna, who denied any romantic involvement with the slugger in a statement posted Sunday on people.com.
“I know Alex Rodriguez through Guy Oseary, who manages both of us,†Madonna said. “I brought my kids to a Yankee game. I am not romantically involved in any way with Alex Rodriguez. I have nothing to do with the state of his marriage or what spiritual path he may choose to study.â€
UPDATE, 8:33 p.m.: Kabbalah! A-Rod just hit a sizzling homer that found the seats in left. That’s 536 homers, matching Mickey Mantle for 13th place in history. He’ll make a fine catch for you single gals out there.
UPDATE, 8:51 p.m.: Brett Gardner is 1 for 18. Meanwhile Johnny Damon is on the DL and the only other OF is Justin Christian. Not good.
UPDATE, 9:36 p.m.: Chamberlain threw 37 pitches in the fifth inning, taking him to 89. As he progresses as a starter, this will be what he needs to work on the most.
Of course the floating strike zone of Laz Diaz doesn’t help much.
UPDATE, 9:43 p.m.: The Big G just started a 3-6-3 double play. This is one of the celestial signs that the Yankees will win the game.
Down 3-1, the Yankees are coming back. That was a sign.
UPDATE, 9:48 p.m.: Joe Girardi just got tossed for arguing balls and strikes. That’s two times this season. Even more evidence that they will come back and win.
And look at that, Gardner singles.
As we all know, when Hank Steinbrenner issues a crazy statement or Girardi gets tossed, the Yankees win. It’s clockwork.
UPDATE, 9:53 p.m.: Baseball is a simple game. Hit Manny in the backside every time he comes up. Yell at the umpires. The Yankees may win this game 10-3.
Meanwhile, Girardi’s head just exploded, sending fans fleeing out onto 161st Street. There is blood everywhere.
UPDATE, 10:24 p.m.: I’m moving to Vegas. This is too easy. Just a question of who drives in the go-ahead run now.
UPDATE, 10:27 p.m.: Great game. The X-factor is Manny Ramirez. Wonder when Francona will use him?
UPDATE, 10:42 p.m.: Now Krazy Kyle has retired the side in order. Yet another sign of impending victory. Gardner gets on, steals second, scores when Jeter shows his captain clutchiness. Either that or A-Rod goes Kabbalah! again.
UPDATE, 11:06 p.m.: Which pitch do you figure A-Rod crushes? I’ll say the third.
UPDATE, 11:08 p.m.: That’s it, time to try Scientology. Maybe The Big G will do it.
UPDATE, 11:19 p.m.: Rivera did his part. Now we’ll see if Cano, Cabrera and Molina can make something happen. Hey, somebody has to do it.
Meanwhile they’re playing a clip from Rudy on the scoreboard. That should get them going. If I owned a team I would show clips from Stripes to try and loosen everybody up.
Papelbon coming in for Boston. I can’t imagine Mo goes a third inning unless Girardi likes reading MRIs. That means … Edwar I would guess.
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first on the lineup post awesome!
i like the defensive pros of having a lf/cf combo of melky and gardener, and i like him leading off
When was the last time the Yankees faced the Sox when Manny and Ortiz were not in the lineup?
Nice to see Posada playing instead of Betemit.
*gardner sorry
Francona wants an up close look at those “intangibles”.
I’m wondering if we’ll see David Robertson this evening if Joba needs pen help.
A CG shut-out would be nice.
…didn’t Francona manage Jeter during the 2005 All-Star game? Either it really made an impression on him, or it didn’t. Not a lot of room for something in-between there.
Brian Cashman doesn’t know whether the Yankees are buyers or sellers. Wow, what a year.
sheissah about Damon. I really had hoped he magically recover. Now the earlier he can return is July 20.
…wait, no, he didn’t. Jeter missed the AS game due to an injury, I think.
Huh. What do you know.
Jeter was not in the 2005 ASG…because Francona kept him out by putting both him and Matsui on the Final Man ballot, thus splitting Yankee fan votes. So I don’t know what this garbage is that he’s spewing now about how he cant wait to manage him!
Anyway, nice lineup tonight. That sucks about Damon though. Does anyone else have him on their fantasy team with your DL spot already being taken up by a more top tier player? Should I drop him or try to grind through the next few weeks w/o him?
No, I’m wrong again. He just didn’t make the All-Star game that season. 2003 was the year Jeter missed a chunk of the season sliding into 2nd.
Still bizarre. Who was the starting shortstop that year? …Miguel Tejada. That’s really, really interesting.
Fallen Phoenix, yeah it was Tejada. That was the Orioles’ phantom “1st place in 1st half” year.
Austin Jackson’s not ready for the majors yet.
Jeter was actually sliding into third on Opening Day trying to stretch when the catcher came down on his shoulder, but yeah, that was a year he missed the AS Game.
I’m liking the no Manny in the lineup…and Wakefield pitching. He’s usually fun to face.
Jeter hurt his shoulder in 03, not 05.
Is that lineup right, Manny isn’t playing??!! What did he go on a small vacation since he can’t go during the all star break??! Watch Joba and the Yanks give up like 10 runs to them and lose with both Manny and Ortiz not in the lineup. Wakefield has been good in his last couple of starts but I hope the Yanks are patient and torch him!!! If they get guys on atleast they can steal every chance they get against him.
“BBFan – I was wondering the same thing. When I voted for starters, I’d get a message that I was at my voting limit after 25 times. With the final man vote, I’ve been hitting “vote again†for like an hour, and they haven’t stopped me yet.”
I voted something like 50 or 60 times…still it did not stop me. Here is a chance for all of us to load up on Giambi and send him to the ASG.
When does the voting end? Does any one know?
Justin that has to be the stupidest comment I ever read. An all star at every position doesn’t benefit a team. We are already seeing this season why it doesn’t work.
Maybe Melky’s a reader of this blog. Every time you bring a li’l hate on him he seems to get hot. If that’s the case, keep it up.
When Yanks lost the first two games, there were many ready to jump of the ledge
If we win the game today, pitching match up favors us, we will be down only three in the loss column for the wild card. Still people think we do not have a chance to make the playoffs? SJ?
Sure the offense was not clicking, but I can not see them being ineffective like that all of the rest of the season.
I am in that eternal optimist camp that we will make it to the playoffs. We were right last year, we will be right this year as well.
Tonight’s 25 man roster is something of a landmark I believe.
13 of the 25 players on the big league team are home grown players who came up primarily through the yankee’s minor league system (I’m including Rasner in that group – he had a cup of coffee with the Nats in 2004 but was picked up by the yanks minor league system in 2005).
It far from an ideal group of players tonight with all of the injuries.
But I can’t remember the last time they had more than half the players on the big league team all come from the yankee’s own system.
I’ve been casually checking on this from time to time this year and I don’t think at any point in this season they’ve hit the 13 player mark. And if they didn’t do it this year I can’t imagine they would have done it at any point over the past several seasons.
It’s going to be a track meet tonight as Gardner runs silly on the bases…..True you cannot steal IB, however a little displine at the plate will yield great benefits…..Yanks win in a laughter tonight…..Boston looking forward to going home….Joba rises to the next level tonight as he silences the talking heads on ESPN…..The second half push started last night in dramatic fashion…..
To the person posting as “justin christian”:
Please stop. we don’t do that here. use your own name or something else, don’t pretend you’re somebody else.
thanks
Does anyone know if Saturdays game against Toronto was originally a night game? When I originally purchased the tickets I thought it said it was a night game!
“why cant the yankees bring up austin jackson. the redsox brought up ellsbury last year. How do you know that he was ready”
Your kidding right?
Pete,
can you please block the trolls? i.e. “justin Christian”
“Francona picked Carlos Guillen, Dioner Navarro, George Sherrill, Justin Duchscherer and Joe Nathan.”
Geeze, five players? What is the point of giving the manager any selections?
Next year, I say Peter Gammons selects the last of the AL reserves. His choices will be as intelligent as the player votes, I’m sure.
“Melky is 5 of his last 10″
This is why you don’t give up on a future all star, Bernie type player.
Things I could care less about.
All Star game selections.
And “Justin” is out. Thanks for playing.
Melky has looked ten times better since he was benched midweek. Not only has he hit as much in the past few days as he did the few WEEKS before, but he is starting to have some lengthier ABs too. Perhaps he has finally woken up, just as Cano did after getting benched in Houston?
I think “Justin” should focus more on his game than on making sure the Yankees bring Austin Jackson up way too early.
Melky should forget hitting right handed.
Thanks Pete
Terry is a joke. Please don’t make us out to be fools. We know you could care less about managing Derek.
How can anyone say we have an all-star at every position? Melky is not an all-star. Cano is not. Nor are they all-star caliber.
Terry Francona is not a joke. He has a general respect for Jeter and many Yankees. Jennifer, know what you are saying before you post. You just make yourself look bad when you don’t.
BBB did you notice what catcher is in the lineup? So if was necessary but that’s not a bad thing. Plus I actually heard some reporter ask last night about Moeller. If that was so Pete that’s awesome. I know other people asked other reporters to ask the same question but it could have been Pete’s voice, I’m not sure.
I always think it’s such a cool thing really that we have the access we do to our reporters.
I couldn’t really hear the whole question but I did hear Girardi answer that Moeller was going to getting playing/catching time.
I think life is good even if we didn’t get many players on the AS team.
“Terry is a joke. Please don’t make us out to be fools. We know you could care less about managing Derek.”
That is a joke indeed… That is exactly what I thought when I read it.
Melky has looked ten times better since he was benched midweek. Not only has he hit as much in the past few days as he did the few WEEKS before, but he is starting to have some lengthier ABs too. Perhaps he has finally woken up, just as Cano did after getting benched in Houston?
Melky yesterday had a few lucky hits yesterday. He’s still having bad quality ABs, it’s not like he’s killing competition out there. I give credit when it’s dued he still is nowhere near that. Robi is another story atleast defensively and offensively he’s getting more consistant. Whether he turns it around it’s yet to be known.
BBFan,
If they win tonight, which is a must, they finish this series 2-2. Advantage Red Sox since the Yankees don’t gain ground in a home series against them.
With a win, they would be 3-4 on the homestand. Sorry, that’s not good enough for me to think they are a playoff team right now.
If they lose? They did an even deeper hole for themselves.
So, to answer your question, in their present construction, win or lose tonight, I still don’t think its a playoff team.
JMHO.
“Terry Francona is not a joke. He has a general respect for Jeter and many Yankees. Jennifer, know what you are saying before you post. You just make yourself look bad when you don’t.”
No one qeustions he has respect for many yankees. I personally resepct Terry and defended him for the all star reserves selections in the last two threads.
But what he said is a joke. I do not think Jennifer posted any thing wrong. She just called a spade a spade.
I hope that this is Gardner’s night
How could Mussina be left out? Isn’t he tied for 2nd most wins in AL?
Jennifer it says 107PM on my schedule that came with my season tickets for saturday aga8inst Toronto
Brandon……..how old are you???? please say 15.
its amazing to me how many of you actually care about who is playing in the ASG. I dont get it. Its utterly meaningless.
BTW- on my way back from running an errand I walked past AROD’s place (60th and Park) around 3pm and there were about 30 paparazzi milling about… funny
Brandon are you a troll?
Doris- amen I don’t even see the point of watching it… cool we get to see players that we will see anyways in some pointless contest that determines the outcome of one game in a world series… wow so much fun!
The C.C. to the Brewers deal is official.
its just amazing to see people literally going insane on here about Varitek, Mosse, et al…
Mark, I actually like Molina catching Joba tonight over our friend Moeller, b/c Joba has worked w/Jose before, they know each other, etc. Plus Wakefield is easy to steal on so if we have Molina’s arm we’re giving ourselves a huge advantage in the running game. Moeller can throw too, but nobody throws better than Molina, so using him is really exploiting their weakness/our strength.
This is actually the 1st time in awhile I’ve been totally satisfied with the lineup. Glad Girardi is finally being asked about Moeller too. Maybe next someone will ask why not just make him the personal catcher for Ras?
SJ44 doesn’t think they are a good team????
I am in SHOCK!!
Remember, the quitter said the same thing all last year and the year before. How did that turn out?
Pete Abe-
Buster Onley agrees with you; he just said on SportsCenter that he would start Mariano
Brandon are you a troll?
No are you.
its official- damon to the DL
its official- c-rod to file for divorce on monday
Breaking News
There is now a 99.8 percent chance that CC Sabathia will start game 1 in the New Yankee Stadium.
The only thing left to do is hope and pray we don’t give him more than 5 years, I wouldn’t hold my breath though.
its official- c-rod to file for divorce on monday
It was for the best. Meanwhile one side is talking too much while the other is keeping quiet.
“SJ44 doesn’t think they are a good team????
I am in SHOCK!!
Remember, the quitter said the same thing all last year and the year before. How did that turn out?”
Jason,
I know you are in the same camp I am that believes that Yanks will make it to the playoffs. That does not mean we have to call people who disagree or have a different opinion quitters. In fact, I do beleive that SJ gives very good rationale of why he believes in what he beleives in. I respect that.
C-Rod and Arod are a match made in heaven. Anyone who wears a shirt to the Stadium that says, well you know what it said, is not exactly of “high morals” the way her mother said she is. Anyway, she and Arod went to strip clubs together and his reputation for cheating happened before the stripper incident.
I think C-Rod was blinded by the $$$$ and Arod was blinded by I don’t know what since I think his wife is quite skanky.
Sabathia deal is close
By Tom Haudricourt
Sunday, Jul 6 2008, 05:29 PM
The Brewers are closing in on a deal for Cleveland left-hander C.C. Sabathia, to the point that outfield prospect Matt LaPorta has been scratched from the Huntsville’s lineup tonight to assure he does not get injured.
A reliable club source told me the Brewers are putting the finishing touches on a deal that will send LaPorta and two other minor leaguers to the Indians for Sabathia, the reigning AL Cy Young Award winner. One of the other players might be Class A Brevard County third baseman Taylor Green, whose name has been on and off the table at various times.
The other player will not be Brevard County outfielder Lorenzo Cain, however. He has been told to report to Huntsville, ostensibly to take LaPorta’s place on the roster.
I have been told that the Brewers are not including another top prospect, such as Mat Gamel or Alcides Escobar, in the deal. They drew the line at one top prospect to get a pitcher they know they will lose to free agency after the season.
The Brewers have told the Indians this deal must be wrapped up tonight so they can get Sabathia here and make his next start Tuesday night on schedule. That way, he could pitch again on Sunday and the Brewers would get two starts before the all-star break.
The Indians have an off day tomorrow and are making plans to announce Sabathia has been traded. There’s always the possibility that something could go wrong at the last moment but I’m told this is looking good for the Brewers.
I’ll post further updates as I get the information.
http://blogs.jsonline.com/brewers/archive/2008/07/06/sabathia-deal-is-close.aspx
Nothing has changed.
While Damon going to the DL is a sad moment Gardner is starting to grow on me. Anyway we could do worse.
BBB I think Molina’s been a little beat up and since Jorge’s arm is hurting Moeller probably needs to be in tonight’s game.
I agree though about asking about Moeller catching Ras.
I’d like to see Molina and Moeller alternate for all of the Rays game. I doubt I’ll see it.
See you next season CC
Brandon,
Where are you seeing that? If true, it shows that Pete Abe was as accurate with his “Phonies Unite” in the paper today (where he said it was all a publicity stunt to sell concert tickets) as he was with his “Aliens in Central Park” prediction.
When will Pete stop just making stuff up about ARod? Or how about stop confusing the media’s madness with ARod’s motivations? Blaming ARod for seeking publicity every time the media goes nuts is just stupid.
Clare are you alright
Clare- couldnt agree more with your post. Not to mention the free pass he gives jeter while killing melky
There is now a 99.8 percent chance that CC Sabathia will start game 1 in the New Yankee Stadium.
We playing the Brewers our first game?
Well the CC to the Brewers is great for us, if true, no way can they afford to sign both him and Sheets for next year, if they even sign 1 of them. I guess that’s why they are going all in to try and win this year. Personally don’t think theyre good enough, but we’ll see.
We need to bring back morgan ensberg….
although, it’s not like they need LaPorta anyway, since they have Fielder, so I guess they might as well try.
Why would Mariano start the AS game? That’s dumb.
You need to showcase his place in history at the All Star Game and that is as the greatest closer the game has known.
No Matsui. No Damon.
We got enough issues scoring runs.
Yep, thanks Brandon. Been around, just not posting much.
To me the MOST interesting thing if CC goes to the Brewers is that IF he leaves after the season and IF they lose Ben Sheets after he season they will be loaded loaded in draft picks. For a team that already seems to have a well regarded farm system could pay HUGE dividends.
PS the best thing about the game on YES right now is that we already know who wins otherwise I would be jumping towards a ledge
Sucks about Damon.
although, it’s not like they need LaPorta anyway, since they have Fielder, so I guess they might as well try.
They’re taking the 2 picks for CC in the offseason and trading Fielder too. The Brewers are stacked w/ hitting prospects so it’s not gonna hurt them.
im sorry, I don’t get how there is a 99% chance we will see C.C. next year.. could someone please explain that to me?
Thanks gayle. I don’t know why I was under the impression that they were playing a night game Saturday. It is a good thing I didn’t buy tickets to a tour of Niagara. I would have been out all that money!!
Now I go from trying to figure out what to do all afternoon in Toronto, to trying to figure out when to get my shopping in!
This season would have been completely different if Wang didn’t get hurt. Lack of offensive firepower wouldn’t have mattered. You can’t win anything with Rasner and Ponson starting games in the rotation every 5th day.
“So, to answer your question, in their present construction, win or lose tonight, I still don’t think its a playoff team.”
it doesn’t look that way to me either, but last year the yankees were 8 out in the wild card at this time and about ten out of first place.
if they win tonight , they’re only 4 back of the red sox.
do that and to hell with what they’ve done so far this year stat wise. 4 games is nothing.
if they can win a game tonight with joba and the team sending a message, then maybe
pat m. last night said sink or swim. it’s deja vu all over again.
if they want it bad enough , tonight is the time to show it.
SamVA
Because what are the chances that the Brewers can sign him after the season is over? zero.
im sorry, I don’t get how there is a 99% chance we will see C.C. next year.. could someone please explain that to me?
Milwaukee is not going to resign him or extend him. He is going to be a FA in the offseason.
Prospects are just that. prospects. Everyone was raving about how loaded the Dodgers were. How have those prospects turned out?
There are no sure things with prospects.
A win tonight and we’re 3 games back in the loss column from Boston for the WC.
Still a playoff team.
We’re better with Wang, but we’re still a playoff-contending team on July 6.
I think they should take a chance on Bonds. He’s willing to sign for the minimum. He’ll be motivated to prove to everyone that they made a mistake not signing him. And at this point the yankees need him. Chances are Matsui is done for the season so it opens up a spot for Bonds. He’s still a great hitter and he wouldn’t have to play the field. If it doesn’t work out, they wasted nothing. I know a lot of fans would rather lose than have Bonds play for the Yankees, but I’m not one of those. I root for the uniform. It’s not like the current Yankee players (like ARod) are all angels.
There is always one of those fans that don’t understand Barry Bonds is not going to be Yankee, what part of that don’t you guys understand. He’s going back on trial, demoralized the San Francisco locker room, you had guys like Fred Lewis breathing a sigh of relief when he was let go. He’s not coming here.
You are correct, there are no sure things with prospects.
There are even fewer “sure things” with players over 32, especially “name” players. As we see with the 2008 Yankees.
Frankly, a rookie won the game for the Yankees yesterday because he was on the only on the team who actually had a clue on what to do in a bases loaded situation.
Something we haven’t seen from this veteran laden team all year.
You know what is even less of a sure thing than prospects?
All star at every position, 200+ million dollar payroll teams, don’t win World Series.
Unlike prospect laden teams, which have won World Series.
A win tonight and we’re 3 games back in the loss column from Boston for the WC.
Still a playoff team.
Yep.
What makes you think they would win with Bonds?
Haven’t we said this about half a dozen players over the past several years? This is not a “one person short” team.
If they signed him tomorrow, which they won’t, he won’t be ready for another 4-6 weeks. Even his agent said he needs some type of “spring training” to be ready.
So, the earliest he is in NY is Mid-August. What’s the point of that?
I’m not even talking about all the baggage he brings to the table. Which is considerable.
They will rightly pass on Bonds. He’s no solution to their problems.
Why isn’t Varitek the DH tonight for Boston ? His “lights out” bat should be in the lineup to keep his stroke in tune for the AS game. What a shame. He could go in a slump by the AS game.
Madonna put the whaamie on Wakefield.
He’ll last no more than 4 innings.
Naysayers. Naysayers. Naysayers.
It can’t hurt to try Bonds.
People who say nay to everything are insecure.
Nay on Bonds (I’m so the opposite of insecure)
Preview of tonight’s game. There’s a few nice things about Joba to keep it from being complete toxic waste.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3475348
We’ll see gas at $1.50 a gallon before Bonds appears in another big league game. Baggage galore.
Brandon,
Something tells me there will be heavy troll traffic in here tonight. New names and folks with nothing logical to say is usually the tipoff.
They may not win with Bonds but there’s no doubt they’d be a better team with him. No one player guarantees a championship but that doesn’t mean you shouldn’t try and get better when you have the chance. He’s a better hitter than Bettemit or Gardner.
As for the argument that it’ll take him a while to be ready – it’s just like the argument against drilling in the arctic (whether you agree with it or not)- that you shouldn’t do it because it’ll take 10 years before you can get any oil. Well, that’s what they said 10 years ago and by now they would have had the oil. Same with Bonds. They could have signed him a month ago and he would be ready now but you were making the same argument against him then. And even if it takes him a month now , he would be ready the first week in August, plenty of time for him to contribute. If I’m not mistaken, teams trade for guys even in September. They don’t say in September it’s too late to for someone to help us, so why say it now. I understand that a lot of you guys hate Bonds and that’s why you don’t want him on the team but at least admit that. I understand that. But to make arguments that he he’s not any good or that it’s too late to sign him, that’s ridiculous.
SJ44, You have every logical reason to veiw the club with great suspension as they close in on the break…..I just think somewhere, somehow they’ll manage to get on track and make a push for October…There’s just too much talent to just roll over….As for Tampa, they’re for real however there’s a few things that could side track them come September…First is the heat of a pennant race, but I think the real issue will be their front line starting pitching…These guys are going to be reaching their ceiling in IP’d….Bullpen will be an issue as well….The going right now is real good, let’s see how a losing streak is handled by not only the ballplayers but by the coaching staff as well……
If they lose tonight what happens when the Rays come in? Most likely the Rays take both games with 4 left to play before the break. After losing 3 at home we’re off to Pittsburgh to play a game nobody wanted to play so it to could be another loss. Then they fly to Toronto with there pitching even though the Blue Jays are not playing well so 3 more loses? Heck if the Yankees don’t win tonight this season could likely be over.
Trolls indeed.
Yankee bashers who masquerade as Yankee fans show up her every nite.
Oh this will be..fun
Just a point of information they did drill and find oil offshore both in the Beufort and the High Arctic. To get the oil – simple, park a super tanker over the well, suspend agitators to prevent the vessel from getting crushed by ice pack – pump till full, proceed to dock.
aint that the truth Kabalblah..
PETE TIME FOR REGISTRATION
pat m-
i can see it both ways too.
at some point individual players have to have meetings with themselves and decide to kick some butt or not.
tonight is a pivotal game to make that decision.
this is a new look with gardner leading off. joba is starting. if he’s a pitcher with that special something tonight is as good a stage as he’ll get to show it.
there are no locks in sports with prospects or veterans. that’s why we watch. i’m looking forward to seeing who wants to win tonight.
Reportly CC Sabathia has been traded, or at least a trade has been agreed on.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3475667
do you think we will see gardy AND jc in the outfield at the same time over the next few days??
C.C. to Brewers is a good thing for the Yankees, right? No fistpumps at LoHud?
That actually makes me kind of sad in an overall baseball sense. I know baseball is a business but it’s going to be hard to picture CC with any team other than the Indains.
wow. carlos gomez is quite chirpy for a rookie.
Gut check time in the Bronx……Joba will make a statement tonight…I see Gardner having an impact tonight as long as he doesn’t chase Wakefield’s dancer…He gets on base watch out….The strech run has begun for the Yanks…..I’m with you Randy I, that’s what makes sports so great……This is the last go around for many of these guys in The Bronx….
all but guarantee’s Sabathia will be a FA at the end of the yr
Mel-
from reading the story, it doesn’t sound like Brewers paid premium to land CC.
sounds like a buyers market.
“Gut check time in the Bronx”
my sentiments exactly
Kabablah,
I’m not interested in what they gave up because I know we wouldn’t have been players.
The good news, though, is that C.C. wasn’t traded to an AL contender.
And it’s doubtful that the Brewers will re-up (or that C.C. would want to stay, unless he loves his beer).
So he’ll be available in the offseason, if, you know, the Yankees want to kick the tires.
Then we can have the ace and everyone can shut up even though they miss Chien Ming “Not an Ace” Wang.
The allstar Billy Wagner.
Good lord Billy Wagner…
randy l,
You must be disappointed. Olney just said on espnews that Livan Hernandez was the big AL snub.
I have to admit, the Mets actually make me laugh out loud sometimes. You can’t make this stuff up.
I would just like to go on record again what a pleasure it is to have the Joe Girardi Show without Michael Kay. Kim Jones has been doing a great job!!
A a Phillies fan that Wagner did it in Philly just makes it even sweeter
I was wondering why you guys were talking about Billy Wagner.
Quite a few blown saves in the last month, no?
Meanwhile, Detroit & Seattle going to the top of the 14th.
We had good defense yesterday and the primary reason we won such a low-scoring game.
I really like Molina behind the plate against Boston and Gardner an improvement over Damon in LF as we saw yesterday.
I expect the same tonight, I really hope Joba has his mechanical problems in check, if he does, we’ll be in good shape.
YOU KNEW WAGNER WAS GONNA BLOW IT NEVER SAVE A BIG GAME IN HIS LIFE
“You must be disappointed. Olney just said on espnews that Livan Hernandez was the big AL snub. ”
no way.
for someone like livan, that’s a real honor just to be snubbed.
anyone can win with a 3.00 era . let them try it with a 5.00 era like livan.
nice to see buster showing some love.
THAT SHOULD BE THE lineup everyday it brings defense,speed,power
we could possibly sneak our way into playoffs with this team again this season, but are people here actually going to be content with that?
we’ve been barely good enough for the majority of this decade, and have been beat handily by teams playing better 1-9 baseball in the playoffs.
i’m frankly sick of it.
this team is not built to go to the end, and it is certainly not built to sustain winning in the long term over the next few seasons. it’s time to build that team. the standings, honestly, are decieving a whole lot of you.
i live 20min north of philly but i am still glad i am not a phillies fan
How bereft of relief pitching the NL must be to have picked Wagner! What’s up with that!!!
Looks like it’s almost offical…CC is going to the Brewers.The Cubs may have to wait another 100 years to win WS.
I HATE ESPN!
How about showing the Yankees 26 World Series wins if you’re going to show the only two the loser Sox could muster up since 1918.
What a disgrace. I hope bin Laden drops a bomb on their offices in Connecticut.
I think the Brewers got CC to make sure that the Cubs didn’t.
And here it starts. The second day of the tag team has taken over. Exit McCarver enter Morgan.
HOW THEY LOOOOOVE THOSE RED SOX.
that little boston-new york clip had an over abundance of boston fans. would it have killed them to be a little more even?!?! 2 boston groups for every 1 yankees group. BOO
Manny afraid to face Joba?
This isn’t a baseball question. I’m curious if Florida law will govern over A-Rod’s divorce or New York. If she’s filing in NY, doesn’t that mean she wants a NY judge to decide?
mute button on. I’m good to go!
What cave does Joe Morgan live in? Still apparently questioning Joba’s transition back to being a starter.
I’m somewhat surprised about the Sabbathia deal – not that it happened or that the Brewers got him. More about how the deal has happened.
You had to figure that Shapiro would try to play teams off each other to up Sabbathia’s value.
But that didn’t happen – you heard very little about competing deals other than the Brewer’s offer.
Basically once the Brewers put LaPorta on the table that was the end of the issue. No way any other team was going to offer a package with a single player as good as La Porta.
I didn’t think the Brewers would agree to put LaPorta in the deal so quickly. I thought they’d build the deal around Mat Gamel who is also tearing up AA for the Brewers.
The Brewers didn’t want competing offers and they closed things down by putting La Porta on the table. Shapiro knew he wasn’t going to get a player as good as LaPorta and honed in on the Brewer’s offer.
Once again, its remarkable how little the Twins got for Santana and the way the Sabbathia trade looks to be occurring is such a contrast to what Smith tried to do.
Manny’s not playing because he needed 16 tickets.
Off the subject, What is the deadline for a team to sign it’s draft picks ????
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3475674
Prenup!
I didn’t mean that as a knock on Manny.
Oh wait, yes I did.
thunderfangabe
July 6th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
that little boston-new york clip had an over abundance of boston fans. would it have killed them to be a little more even?!?! 2 boston groups for every 1 yankees group. BOO
i have to ask: are you people legitimatally upset over espn airing more red sox celebrations than yankees in the preview? i mean, its becomming harder and harder to defend being a yanks fan
Am I the only one depressed that the Brewers acquired Sabathia?
Let’s go Joba!
Heh, Joe Morgan is already annoying me.
Great strike zone so far.
i have to ask: are you people legitimatally upset over espn airing more red sox celebrations than yankees in the preview? i mean, its becomming harder and harder to defend being a yanks fan
Nah some of us are just more interested in fairness in reporting than you seem to be.
By the way I don’t think anyone’s asking for your defense.
Wow, this ump better squeeze the zone for Wakefield like he is for Joba.
kill- yeah, better the nl than the al.
lol….. thats priceless! “Fairness in reporting”!?! Didnt realize the pre-game teasers were considered “reportong”. LOL
rebecca you aren’t the only one!
Where the hell was that?
Why does Jon Miller hate the YAnkees?
I agree re: how the trade took shape, CB.
I’m not depressed, since this means one of Sheets or Sabathia is going to hit the open market, and I’d bet even money it’ll be Sabathia. I’d rather try and get Sabathia in a Free Agent bidding war, than try and get Sabathia in a trade auction first.
So out of curiosity, how does Joe Morgan know how the Red Sox lineup operates (and adjusts) against hardthrowers, if he doesn’t watch any of their games? I hope Mr. Morgan gives me ammunition all night, because watching 95 MPH fastballs and 65 MPH knuckleballs just aren’t enough for me.
I kid, I kid. Exciting game, though.
Kill-schill,
Yes, you are. We weren’t going to get him midseason. If he wants to be a Yankee, he’ll be wearing pinstripes in the spring.
This umpire has the strike zone the size of a teacup.
And shut up Morgan, he had him struck out.
Why would they sign Bonds? It doesn’t even make sense for them.
*He wouldn’t be ready immediately, and who knows how effective he’d be.
*If Arod is “clownish and a distraction” then Barry Bonds is the whole freaking Cirque de Soleil.
*They just signed Arod for an exhorbitant amount of money based on him being the leading candidate to break the HR record. Why would they sign Barry Bonds and give Arod that much more of a target to chase?
*He does have the potential for legal proceedings hanging over him which could come back to bite him at any time.
So how does it make sense for the Yankees to sign him in order to maintain the illusion for some fans that they’re trying to still be competitive?
lol….. thats priceless! “Fairness in reportingâ€!?! Didnt realize the pre-game teasers were considered “reportongâ€. LOL
“LOL” One of my favorite kid sayings.
I think Laz Diaz always has a small zone, but I might be mistaken.
Time to get to work bats.
Stuff it Joe Morgan
thanks, mark. you understand.
Jon Miller is drunk, thats why. Everyone knows he is a drunk
Joba sure looks great.
I’m not sure we should sign CC.
he’s out of shape and could easily become another Bartlo Colon.
Stale observations
thunderfangabe, absolutely do.
Is an A-Rod report about his marriage really needed in a Yankees game thread? Meh, oh well.
Anyway, it’s really funny to think that there actually HUMAN BEINGS that wanted Joba Chamberlain to stay in the bullpen and be a reliever/ closer.
This guy looks like Clemens out there. I’m loving the 99 mph fastballs!
Yes mark, im a kid. and you sound so grown up complaining about the canned pre-game teasers favoring the red sox.
Brett, I know you’ve been having a lot of good ABs, but I’m not sure that was one of them.
It sounds like the Brewers and Indians were serious about doing business.
It’s a great deal for the Brewers. It may well send them into the playoffs this year.
But what will they do if they lose both CC and Sheets in the off season? The draft choices are great and all, and I hear they have a stocked minor league system, but who will they get to pitch to replace those two? Any thoughts?
Bartolo Colon wishes that, on his best day, he was C.C. Sabathia.
Is there any chance at all Milwaukee can keep him?
Do we start volunteering to wash Cashman’s car now, so it can be extra-nice and shiny for him to wow C.C. with?
Regarding Bonds, I’ve said this before and I’ll say it again. I’ve bled pinstripes for 40 years, but if NY were to sign Bonds I would be looking for a new team. I hate the jackass that much and I would be shocked if the Yankees were to even consider signing him.
Brett really needs to start hitting soon, or Girardi won’t be able to afford batting him that high.
To be fair, he was robbed twice yesterday, once by Masterson, and again by Lowell. But I want to see a few more linedrives and more walks.
Fantastic analysis, Jon.
“Gardner is VERY fast.” I think it’s partly funny because it’s true.
Is this the first time Jon has ever seen flashing cameras? He seems so captivated by them.
Angel, I think Bonds’ trial has been set for 2009, so his legal problems wouldn’t keep him out of any games this season. And the thing about not wanting to increase the home run total for Arod… I don’t know about that one.
so, remind me again why gardner is so good and melky so bad
Wakefield’s ball is dancing. Crap.
Angel-
it can’t hurt to try.
nothing is gained by playing it safe (ie no risk, no reward).
we’re 4-6 in our last ten games, including a terrible home stand. Why? cause of the lack of hitting.
How many drinks did Jon have before the game. I’m guessing 5.
breaking news from espn…
Brett Gardner iS fast
Unreal
Christ, Wakefield has a bigger zone and the Yankees look like they’ve never seen anything like him before.
This is just fantastic so far.
Rebecca, I’d give Brett a pass on that one. How often do you think he saw knuckleballs in Scranton?
“Is this the first time Jon has ever seen flashing cameras? He seems so captivated by them.”
It’s essentially jingling keys in front of an infant.
If the Rods have a prenup, why did she hire 3 lawyers? Sounds to me like someone is going to try and contest that prenup.
vote for me for the final vote otherwise i will not be in the hr derby. 25 times people!
Joe from Long Island: they do have Yovani Gallardo waiting in the wings next year. Along with Hughes and Lincecum, he made up the trio of top pitching prospects who got called up early by their teams last year, and he actually had the most major league success among the three of them last year.
He put together a few good starts this year until he was lost for the season, too.
I find it unlikely that the Brewers will let BOTH Sabathia (if the trade is concluded) and Sheets get away from them, although it is certainly possible. Of course, if the Brewers make (and go deep in) the playoffs this year, they might have some extra revenue to play with, too.
Honestly? It’s really, really difficult to judge how this offseason is going to look. There are just too many variables that need to be resolved from now until the trade deadline, let alone until the end of the season, to have a good idea of how it is going to play out.
Incredible!
Rays are 9-1 in their 10 games.
I see the Goon squad won again today, their 7th straight. Still scratching my head over their performance this year.
You know, I kind of miss the days when players’ personal lives weren’t any of our business.
Actually, Brett Gardner *has* seen knuckleballs in Scranton, since there are a couple of knuckleball pitchers lurking in the minors (one in the Red Sox system, if I recall correctly).
Even then, though, Wakefield is one of the best at what he does (which is why he’s lasted so long).
I’d agree with Skippy, though, it’s going to be hard to judge Brett based on his at-bats against Tim today.
Laz Diaz’s zone is expanding.
The TB Rays in first place. I feel like I am in the twilight Zone..
Come on Joba!
“vote for me for the final vote otherwise i will not be in the hr derby. 25 times people!”
Looks like there is no limit of 25. You can vote as many times as you can.
“breaking news from espn…
Brett Gardner iS fast
Unreal”
What was wrong with that comment? This is a national game meaning there are most likely a ton of people watching who have never heard of Gardner.
Relax buddy.
Ron- It just shrunk again.
Oh that’s nasty!
SIT DOWN…
AND SIT DOWN!
molina has a gun…
Molina and the unbeatable arm. Dude is HOT right now.
YOU DO NOT RUN ON JOSE MOLINA! =D
Gotta love Molina’s arm (if not his bat).
Hey, let’s not pretend that Jeter or Abreu looked any better than Brett. They all looked like they’d never seen Wakefield before.
Molina’s an absolute hoss. How many nights have we seen him lying on the ground after getting hit, brushing himself off, and getting back in there?
Best backup we’ve ever had.
“You know, I kind of miss the days when players’ personal lives weren’t any of our business.”
You weren’t alive then!
“You know, I kind of miss the days when players’ personal lives weren’t any of our business.”
It’s still none of our business. Unfortunately, it is news.
i’m voting for the Lady Volunteers as well…
The man…the myth…
Move over Mick.
He’s amazing. Just amazing.
1-iron shot….
Molina – one of the best trades every pulled off by Brian Cashman.
I swear Arod’s at the top of his game when there’s controversy!
Glad to see his marital troubles aren’t affecting his swing.
News I personally ignore, but I suppose everyone approaches the tabloids differently.
A-Rod with a home run. Waiting for the twenty people to post how it isn’t clutch because it’s only his first at-bat of the game (thus the 2nd inning), and no one was on base (because of the 1-2-3 1st inning).
anyone want to made a witty madonna reference here?
YAY Alex!
ALEX!
I think he kaballah’d his own shot!
The KARABLAH KID STRIKES~~!!
Thank you, Madonna!
feel the power of the Kabbalah!!!!
unfortunately, the time before player’s lives became our business was the time before the internet was able to report on it 24/7.
Guy with a prenup losing the ball and chain he wants to lose. No wonder he’s smiling.
Dang, kabalah really does work.
jc is already in the dugout
if arod is into kabalah now, that makes him the best jewish athlete of all time. sweet.
Posada used to tweak his stance when he faced Wakefield. He sort of laid his bat back and then went into the starting position. Based on that swing, he might consider trying that approach again.
What percent knuckleballs does this man throw?
haha Pete your funny!
Nice homer Arod!!
UPDATE, 8:33 p.m.: A-Rod just hit a sizzling homer that found the seats in left. That’s 536 homers, matching Mickey Mantle for 13th place in history. He’ll make a fine catch for you single gals out there.
Yeah, Pete. That’s what we women need. A guy who can’t keep it in his pants.
while the HR is nice to start the game and a win would be nice, I still think this team is going to continue to struggle.
Even against Wakefield, who they have seen many times, they are taking bad swings instead of putting him in a fastball count, which he does not have.
Their hitting needs to be fully addressed before this team is going to contend for anything other than 3rd place.
Think it as SJ who said, this team is not a 1 player solution. There are many holes and they grow each game.
But it is nice to see them up 1-0. Joba needs to watch that pitch count.
Laura,
No amount of money would be enough to be his wife.
You know the fanfic writers are just loving this, btw…
I can think of a million things NY could have done with that $15mil. What a waste.
was anybody else angry at the opening ESPN made for this game? maybe somebody alreay talked about this, but by comparing us to the British that’s not only insulting to us as yankee fans but also to previous sox greats like Ted Williams, Yaz and Fisk. Baseball is a historical game, this is absolutely insulting to those memories…
and on another note, as a immigrant to this country, if the yankees represent the British, then I don’t want to be american
i predict the yanks win this game 6-1
“He’ll make a fine catch for you single gals out there.”
He’s probably fun to play with but not to stay with.
No woman with any self-respect with hook up with that male ho. There are plenty out there who don’t fit into that category, so I hope Alex finds life without his little family more to his taste.
There’s more to life than just baseball, so yes, I find this sad. Sorry to offend those who only like to focus on baseball.
I am looking foward to A-Rod being single. One, maybe I do still have a chance. Two, I wonder if him and Jeter will go on a wedding crasher type of rampage dating thing.
I’m half British. I take exception to that.
That 270M contract became 75M pretty fast.
120 for Uncle Sam
75 for C-Rod
75 for A-Rod
I hope ARod doesn’t get injured, with all the women throwing their keys at him
“No amount of money would be enough to be his wife.”
True, as Cynthia’s plans for divorce has proven.
UPDATE, 8:33 p.m.: Kabbalah! A-Rod just hit a sizzling homer that found the seats in left. That’s 536 homers, matching Mickey Mantle for 13th place in history. He’ll make a fine catch for you single gals out there.
Actually, assuming Cynthia will get 50% of everything in the divorce settlement, that’s just 268 homers for A-Rod
Kaballah? One of Arod’s new toys that he will toss like he did his wife.
Pedroia would have dived for that last ball if it was hit to him…
studly inning. keep it up jc.
I love these grounders. That’s pitching right there. They aren’t getting good swings at all.
funny how you all blame arod but have no idea whatsoever what really happened…
Ugh. Can we not give Madonna credit for anything ARod does, even if it is in jest? I doubt that skanky self-promoting narcissist even knows how many strikes it take to K someone.
“I am looking foward to A-Rod being single. One, maybe I do still have a chance.”
No, you don’t have a chance.
Houston-Atlanta going into the 17th inning
I’m thinking that with a prenup his wife may be just dumping their marital assets on lawyers.
Prenups usually stick I think.
Patrick, as usual, you’re wrong. They have a prenup.
How many people flee to Paris to avoid a media frenzy, and then announce before they do it – that they’re going to file for divorce in a future date? That would seem to defeat the purpose of avoiding the said media frenzy in the first place. Strange.
S.A.- Just win games and can the offense stop being so offensive?
“He’ll make a fine catch for you single gals out there.â€
He’s probably fun to play with but not to stay with.
I was thinking the same exact thing. I deff wouldnt want him as my husband but he deff would make a good boy toy haha
“I doubt that skanky self-promoting narcissist even knows how many strikes it take to K someone.”
Wait, which one are you talking about?
So much for the yankees getting sabathia this season
Who’s blaming Arod? In fact who cares. I just think it’s funny that anyone thinks Kaballah will take over his life.
Exactly Wolf. All this talk of Madonna and Kabbalah etc. is making me ill.
Carlos Pena is up and coming talent? Um No, he is some guy who found something undetectable who couldn’t hang on with any other team.
Anyone think A Rod bedded Madonna just to annoy Canseco?
Interesting-
Arods wife is probably just as much of a skank as he is
Peter Gammons drinking game based on his pronuncition, grammtical and reporting errors just got canceled in this man’s basement.
We are already toasted and now have to be cut off.
Gamn you Dammons!
“No, you don’t have a chance.”
How do you know that?
I want to see what the Brewers give up to get CC because so far, it doesn’t sound like much.
LOL – I knew I was setting someone up for that one Nick. Nice one, dude.
As if anyone with Kevin Youkilis as their name has any experience with women.
The deck is stacked against A-Rod. Infidelity and two kids. He’ll lose, which is why his wife is divorcing him so quickly. She just hit the lotto and is a single woman.
i’m a bit swooshed right now, so no grammar nazis on my last post please!
While there is certainly more to life than baseball, Wang IS Taiwan, I personally hesitate to comment (or judge) any situation that I have no business commenting on. The fact of the matter is, despite what might be in the tabloids, or the media, and what we might read and see over the coming days, weeks, and months, there’s still a lot we don’t, and never will know, about the Rodriguezes’ situation.
Ultimately, I just think it’s a private matter. It’s not there for our entertainment, it’s not there for our moral condemnation. People like A-Rod entertain us on the field; let’s just leave it at that.
Back to baseball: I love how Gammons is getting halfway there with his analysis of the Rays; mentions how the defensive efficiency was worst in baseball last year, best in baseball this year, but it’s because of “veteran” presence that the Rays are better, not because they made smart deals to shore up that defense (internal juggling, and bringing in Barlett in a trade). Sure, Troy Percival has helped solidify the Rays’ bullpen, but so did their trade for Wheeler at the trade deadline last year, and as we all know, make the defense better, and you inevitably make the pitching better.
Madge said that she and A-Rod are just friends and I believe her. :wink wink:
As a jew, im just excited to welcome a new member to the team. between ryan braun, youklis, arod, kinsler, kapler and few others the team aint half bad
I wish people, including Peter, would leave the Madonna thing alone already. Its old, its boring.
Meanwhile, when will Peter Gammons shutup?
Trade Bait Gardner needs to start putting on a show.
Angel – I have room in my bucket that you are welcome to if the urge gets too strong. I’ll share.
OK, we’re going to have to start getting a little more off of Wakefield. Maybe then Timlin will come in to throw BP to the ’stache.
Patrick except she accepted him back after the last infidelity so who knows how that’s going to play.
Pass me what these two idiots are drinking. Does anyone have any idea what they are talking about?
omg…that “Patrick Bateman” handle is totally wierding me out.
When did this blog become US Weekly? Ugh.
I was making dinner and missed it, why isn’t Manny playing?
Someone squeegee the camera. Gammons just spit all over it during his 10 minute monologue.
Anyone think A Rod bedded Madonna just to annoy Canseco?
I hope he didn’t break her hip. The Material Girl is a senior citizen.
Doris, you are right. Cynthia is not the innocent she is portraying herself to be here. And her mom needs to pipe down and stop wearing house coats when she gets her picture taken.
Angel- the team wouldn’t give him the 16 tickets he requested 30 minutes before the game.
Just kidding, just an off day.
Laura,
Matt LaPorta is actually a pretty big talent, and in all likelihood, the single biggest trading chip *any* team would have been willing to offer for Sabathia this year.
He was the 7th overall pick last year, and he quickly rose through the minors the past two years, having a very strong line at AA this season. He projects as a middle-of-the-order bat with a pretty high floor, as well, and only in the Brewers’ system (with Braun in Left and Fielder at 1st) was he expendable.
The Brewers had a lot of people scratching their heads with their selection of LaPorta last year, in part because their system is loaded with hitters, but mostly because they had young, cost-controlled star talent at 1st and left (aforementioned Fielder and Braun) as it is.
…Joe Morgan is speaking sense right now. This is absolutely incredible. Why can’t he be like this more often?
Why does Pedroia always kneel down at the plate? Oh sorry. He’s standing.
why isn’t Manny playing?
according to US Weekly, Manny is dating Oliva Newton John. YEah, it’s the latest craze – granny love.
Joe Morgan 1
Tim McCarver 0
I actually used to like gammons but I lost a ton of respect for him after he went on the air and DESTROYED kyle farnsworth after he threw at manny. his true colors came out and he lost all objectivity.
Sabathia to Brewers. Link:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3475667
Nice play!
Pedroia is a little snot.
Jeter is on his defensive game tonight.
He’s such a little whiner.
Ray (sox fan) you once wondered why despite the fact that some of us can acknowledge he’s a decent player, we still don’t like him?
Stuff like that.
it appears he was out? HUH he was out by a mile.
Pedroia needs a booster seat for the dugout.
Olivia Newton John, ha. The video for “Xanadu” is awesome:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m1UWSD-FaA
espn reports CC is going to the Brewers for a bag of peanuts!
This LaPorta kid may be a top legit prospect, but you cant tell me the yanks couldnt find a similar package. Kennedy+Tabata along has to be better.
LaPorta is a AA player for crying out loud..
Cash, please tell me you have a plan (im a big cash fan..but come on)
Its a good thing Jeter is old and slow. Otherwise he would be embarassing the Sox.
personally, I think half of the married pro athletes have deals with their wives when it comes to infidelity.
Team looks crisp tonight..Defensively that is…
Haha Jennifer, that made me laugh.
Unlike the other stupid answer I got.
Joba is cutting through this lineup in superb fashion, and although Manny isn’t in the lineup, either is the AL pitcher equivalent named Varitek.
“Matt LaPorta is actually a pretty big talent, and in all likelihood, the single biggest trading chip *any* team would have been willing to offer for Sabathia this year.”
Oh, okay. I guess I was expecting to see some big name player included in the deal.
Say what you want about Boras but the man knows his way around a contract. If he had a hand in drawing up the pre-nup, it should be a quick resolution of the marriage if that is what both parties want.
It was fun fodder for a few days but during baseball season, I care more about the tools that A-Rod uses to make the back pages of the NY tabs than the front pages.
Anyone out there who still think’s Joba should be pitching in relief?
jeter has been busy out at short tonight
Joba see, Joba do!
What was the on-field delay?
Did someone have to go to timeout?
Its far to early to be writing this team off as SJ44 is. They are only 5 games back from the wildcard and it isn’t even the allstar break.
What’s been killing the team as much as anything is a lack of timely hitting. Its puzzling to watch good veteran hitters time and again fail in the clutch. It just doesn’t make sense that it will continue to this degree.
I’m not going to pretend to have a crystal ball and know what’s going to happen. I could see a worst case scenario where injuries plague the team and Posada and Damon are in and out of the lineup, Jeter has a subpar year, Giambi doesn’t hold up with too much play at 1B, Wang never returns and they never find any consistent contributor for the 4th and 5th rotation spots. I could also envision a scenario where the team goes on one of their 2nd half offensive tears, Pettite has a great 2nd half, Joba becomes one of the most dominant starters in the league, Bruney replaces Hawkins in the Bullpen and the bullpen becomes a strength, Ponson and someone else (Kennedy, McCutchen) hold down the 4th and 5th spots until Hughes and Wang return late in the year. Its not that hard to imagine this being the team we were hopping for them to be in the 2nd half. Not saying its going to happen but it could.
mel the delay was the Sox argued that Pedroia beat the throw, he didn’t.
Fallen Phoenix is right, Matt La Porta is a Star waitng to shine in the MLB…..
Anyone out there who still think’s Joba should be pitching in relief?
Joe Morgan?
These grounders are a great sign. He’s not having to go deep into the count to get outs. He’s at 53 pitches through four innings, which is terrific.
I for one thought that joba should have stayed in the pen. i was wrong.
mel- terry felt the need to mildly argue a call at first. He knew he was out, but his first base coach and the runt thought that he was safe.
Me and Arod would have gorgeous kids…..Joba is rockin tonight!
I was sorta hoping the Brewers would promote LaPorta and trade us Fielder. Guess that’s not happenning.
O/T- Did ARod have a prenup?
Doris,
Only Andre Kirilenko’s wife has admitted such.
He gets one night a year. She’s pretty safe though, he’s ugly as sin.
Is it me or are the Yankees hitting every ball in the air?
YankeeDiva-supposedly he did have a prenup
This team is going to need to find a way to score some runs. The line-up is really depleted, but with the pitching they have, they aren’t going to win a lot of games if they can’t score more than 3 runs.
“This LaPorta kid may be a top legit prospect, but you cant tell me the yanks couldnt find a similar package. Kennedy+Tabata along has to be better.”
LOL
Typical. Overvalue the Yankees prospects, undervalue other team’s prospects.
SA, Morgan said Joba should be starting, at least he said that tonight. The only person I want to admit he was wrong is Fatcessa.
They are making these too easy for Wakefield.
that was a kevin long special: 6 pitches to end the inning.
uh, dude, yankees, you aren’t supposed to let wakefield have 6 pitch innings
Yeah do the Yankees even have an approach off Wakefield tonight? It seems their approach is “A-Rod got us 1 run, Joba looks un-hittable, let’s just hope we hold them to 0 and 1 run is good enough”
c’mon….take more pitches…
Thanks, Jeff & Jennifer.
Are we really hating Wakefield right now?
And Atlanta wins in 17.
LaPorta is a stud if he can find a position. The Indians need that kind of power bat, especially if Hafner has entered his decline phase. He’s an immensely valuable chip.
And Tabata and Kennedy doesn’t come close to matching him, sorry. I love both of them, but LaPorta is an elite hitting prospect.
I know Cashman says he’s not sure if the Yankees are buyers or sellers but if they are buyers, what would people think of Brandon Inge as a super sub bench upgrade. Obviously he’s overpaid to be a bench player and has two more years left on his contract after this year. The tigers probably wouldn’t want much in return as a result and he’d provide a right-handed bat with pop off the bench, greater flexibility in that he can play both corner infield positions, of including center, and catcher. We could then DFA Moeller who has done an admirable job but is a waste of a roster spot if he’s not going to get playing time. Additionally, Posada’s not getting any younger and it wouldn’t hurt to have a third player on the team who could play catcher in a pinch in future years as long as it wasn’t costing us a roster spot the way Moeller does.
There are way too many sox fans at the Stadium tonight.
And Youkilis isn’t supposed to be able to hit that.
IF the Tigers will eat a bunch of Inge’s contract, and they don’t give up much, he’d be a nice addition.
Christ, stop giving up 0-2 hits to the ugliest man in baseball.
man, youk is a great hitter…
And people, don’t forget that this is a rental: you’re only trading for two-and-a-half months for Sabathia. So basically, what Shapiro was looking for was something comparable (or better) than the haul for a Type A free agent (1st round pick + supplemental pick), as well as additional compensation since you’re talking about a top-flight player for a couple of months at a good price.
It was never going to be a blockbuster, superstar-for-superstar trade.
And Tabata+Kennedy probably doesn’t get it done for Sabathia, because the Indians were looking for a major-league ready bat. Yes, LaPorta is only at AA, but he’s supposed to be a very polished hitter, and another one of those unusual fast-risers through a system.
I think we need to wait to see what the other two prospects are in the trade, too. Obviously LaPorta is the big prize, but just think of the Young-Garza trade in the offseason; sure Garza was the big prize for the Rays, but as we’ve seen, Barlett has been just as important (and valuable) to this Tampa Bay team.
Ultimately, Cashman has the right approach here: see what this Yankees team does leading up to the trading deadline and then decide whether you want to be a buyer or a seller. Sure, that doesn’t give him the luxury of pouncing on Sabathia, but truth-be-told, I don’t think Sabathia was ever the single-biggest pressing need for the Yankees like he could be for the Brewers.
The Yankees have the luxury of signing a Sabathia on the free agent market next year, for example, while also retaining their own free agent talent. It’s not even assured that the Brewers will keep their own big free agent, Ben Sheets, so being competitive this year becomes all the more valuable to them, especially since Sheets has been healthy all year (always a big question mark with him).
There aren’t a lot of things that need to go right for the Brewers to make the playoffs this year, while there are a lot of things that need to go right for the Yankees to. And considering the position the Brewers are in, both this season and next, it was (relatively) easy to make the quick decision to buy, and buy big, to make a play for this season.
In a way, the Brewers are essentially doing what the Tigers tried to do in the off-season, but better, since the Brewers aren’t mortgaging their entire future, and even if both Sheets and Sabathia walk, they still have the young, cost-controlled talent to build around, both on the major league roster and in the minors.
Casey’s slower than a beached whale. DP here.
SA, Morgan said Joba should be starting, at least he said that tonight. The only person I want to admit he was wrong is Fatcessa.
He did? Oops..
Fatcessa-I would take a day off from work to hear him say he was wrong about about Joba….
“espn reports CC is going to the Brewers for a bag of peanuts!
This LaPorta kid may be a top legit prospect, but you cant tell me the yanks couldnt find a similar package. Kennedy+Tabata along has to be better.
LaPorta is a AA player for crying out loud..
Cash, please tell me you have a plan (im a big cash fan..but come on)”
LaPorta is better than Kennedy+Tabata, IMO. Also, Kennedy and Tabata would be selling low.
Come on Joba!
Uh oh
come on Joba
Or not.
The problem with our offense being offensive is that Joba isn’t allowed to have innings like this. That’s not fair for any pitcher.
“IF the Tigers will eat a bunch of Inge’s contract, and they don’t give up much, he’d be a nice addition. ”
That would be too much to ask i think. Either he’s cheap because he’s a salary dump or he’d cost at least a decent prospect or two.
I, too, used to thoroughly loathe Pedroia, but my bro (an ASU grad) told me that Pedroia was a good guy — gave up his own baseball scholarship so that the team could get some pitching and help the team win.
I guess he’s not all bad. But he’s still a whining pipsqueak.
I’m not convinced his offense is really that good. Betemit can’t play catcher, but he does a lot of the things that Inge does, and hits while he’s at it.
Somewhat erratic strikezone.
For CC though they don’t have any guarantees after this season, the Brewers weren’t allowed to talk to him before the trade. I wouldn’t give up much for 1/2 season either
Joba, strike this dude out. Don’t load the bases.
Oh, this is just great.
“Ultimately, Cashman has the right approach here: see what this Yankees team does leading up to the trading deadline and then decide whether you want to be a buyer or a seller. Sure, that doesn’t give him the luxury of pouncing on Sabathia, but truth-be-told, I don’t think Sabathia was ever the single-biggest pressing need for the Yankees like he could be for the Brewers.”
How does he have the right approach? Pass on Sabathia and go after Bronson Arroyo? Sabathia wasn’t a need for the Yankees? Yeah they’ve got a lot of other #1 starters lying around.
…
Joba. Please. Get out of this inning.
Get that fat kid out ! He stinks !
i dont like that slider with a man on 3rd.
Joba is going to give me a heart attack, with the way he blocks the plate.
Why not throw the fastball to the inside part of the plate there to Crisp? Crisp is not going to punish that pitch.
Joba should have been able to strike out Cereal boy.
DAMNIT.
Crisp can turn on a fastball. Don’t delude yourself.
oh frack
ok, enough of this blocking the plate crap with joba.
most catchers ole the tag and joba absolutely needs to do that on plays at home.
joba blocking the plate the way he does is way worse than melky diving into first.
Strike out Lugo, get a DP from Cash. Let’s go!
There’s Part I!
its weird watching a game where jeter isnt the worst SS on the field
I can’t believe this – what a disgrace. Half of Yankee Stadium is rooting for the sox!!! Am I imagining it, or am I hearing “YOUK” chants, and “Let’s Go Red Sox” – AT YANKEE STADIUM!!! Is it that Yankee fans are poor and can’t afford tickets, or that we’re starting to give up since we’re so far out of first? Unbelievable – I’m about to vomit.
This season? No, Sabathia is not a need for the Yankees. Their pitching isn’t going to sink them this year, if they decide to be buyers, it’s going to be their offense. Sure, they need an innings-eater, but the Yankees *don’t* have to win this year, contrary to expectations.
They’re well-positioned to try and make a run next season, and Sabathia will be there in the offseason, and they’ll (presumably) have a healthy Wang all season, too.
The Brewers are ideally positioned to make a run right now, this season, whereas the Yankees (rightly) aren’t sure whether to be sellers or buyers at this point. Makes it very difficult to try and blow the Indians away with an offer, then.
These are the worst announcers ever..
That was a strike. The ump is squeezing him.
Laz Diaz is blind.
He’s getting squeezed…WTF!!!
nice squeezing the plate Diaz
What the hell? How was that not a strike?
Geez.
Patrick I agree with the wives probably knowing about the infidelity. I think that they are willing to look the other way as long as they can charge at Neiman Marcus.
My girlfriend always thought Arod looked like a monkey. She goofs on his ears and purple lips. Ha ha.
yeah, diaz has a high strike zone tonight.
This umpire should be suspended. This is a garbage strike zone.
Yankees again look absolutely terrible @bat – I don’t know what it is. Do they think a 1-run-lead is good enough to become lazy and don’t work the count?
glasses diaz-get em
That’s the second time this season Joba has blocked the plate.
That 100% must stop. They need to sit him down after the game and tell him that he just cannot do that again.
It’s a sign of his competitiveness but its a terrible play. That’s a torn knee ligament waiting to happen.
Six innings of one-run ball would definitely be acceptable here. The Red Sox are a good-hitting baseball team.
If he gets Ellsbury quickly, he’ll probably have a chance to finish the 7th.
i think these espn guys are terrible but they are still better than listening to sterling and waldman. its not possible to be worse than those two… plus, waldman looks like she shops at Annie Sez
Anybody know what Joba’s pitch count is?
This ump is garbage, when Jon Miller is calling a strike on a Sox hitter and the ump doesn’t, you know the ump has had a few drinks
throw the curve…
81 pitches for Joba so far
“that Cash had called?”
Joe Morgan, you are pathetic.
What the hell?
This is so frustrating.
he swung. that’s annoying. Joba will get out of this though.
Checked swing? Are you friggin’ kidding me?
how does Ellsbury get that call ?
“This season? No, Sabathia is not a need for the Yankees. Their pitching isn’t going to sink them this year, ”
Crack kills. Your rotation is Pettitte, Joba, Rasner, Ponson, and Giese. There isn’t an established #1 or #2 in that entire rotation.
Wake up, the rotation is terrible. How can you keep saying “we’ll be ready next year”. Jeter is a year older, A-Rod a year older, Posada older, Rivera older. More holes next year, not enough players to fill them.
The midget is up.
The umpire is killing his pitch count with some of these calls.
Deee-flating…
That check swing was bigger than the one Youklis got his hit with.
come on Joba..please
Thanks to our offensive offense, we need perfection..
good. now they can fire kevin long.
Dude.
ELLSBURY DIDN’T WALK. He 2#@$#@$@#$ swung.
And now we have to pay for the umpire’s blown call.
Nothing more frustrating than seeing these bloop in for hits. And the way the Yankees have been hitting for the last week, a two run deficit seriously looks insurmountable right now.
The way this team flails at the crap Wakefield throws, this game is all but over.
Why does MLB let the umpires get away with such blatant incompetence?!
Self inflicted..
Game over. The Yankees aren’t going to beat Good Wakefield.
They’re not going to fire Kevin Long.
Oh, God. Now we have to listen to Gammons have an orgasm over Pedroia.
I am voting Joe Morgan and Peter Gammons into the retard hall of fame. They are soo annoying and make no sense and love them stupid sox.
Joba still doesn’t appreciate how good he is. There was no reason to throw Ellsbury a breaking ball 3-2 when you have a 98mph fast ball.
That’s just giving the hitter much to much credit. Again, he shook off molina and shouldn’t have.
Always crying, crying, crying about the Umpires. Yanks shouldnt be in the situation where such a marginal decision counts for them.
They could have done the exact same thing to Wakefield that Boston is doing to Joba right now.
Good thing Dustin got out of the high chair before his a.b. Joba the hut is over rated
Give Joba one more inning. Screw the pitch count!
“The fifth inning has become an epic”
Johnny MIller is a god dam idiot
kevin long is an absolute disgrace. he is a joke. a farce. an abomination.
That was BS from the umpires. Diaz zone is terrible, he’s squeezing Joba most of the time and giving Wake everything!
That walk call killed us
Well lets see if they knock out their glass jaw reputation, for a change.
This game is over !
He’s at 89 pitches..
My god, can we even score 2-3 more runs?
once again, watching you ninnes complain about the unpires is so embarassing to a real yanks fan.
CB, the Red Sox aren’t getting blown away by the fastball. That not to say they are having good swings; they aren’t. But the slider is clearly giving them more trouble than the fastball.
Pedroia just inside-outed a 98 mph fastball.
Nice *new* name, Tom #2
This Red Sox team reminds me of how the Yankees used to play, grind each at bat, prolong each at bat, now it seems like they’re so #&$&^ing swing happy.
Alright, I was glad Torre was let go. I was excited that JG would be a fiery guy and would come out kicking some dirt. Check swing that wasn’t cost two runs. When the guy runs to first thinking he struck out and it’s called ball four, you need to get your ass of the bench and raise bloody hell. What the hell! This is a must win game or your season is just about over. Joe not arguing was uglier than the call. Very disappointing.
he’s getting squeezed… waaaaa. that was a swing. waaaaaaa. who cares what they were if it takes wakefield 6 pitches to get through an inning
If the Yankees don’t score runs of Wakefield tonight, then I think you have to start worrying about this lineup. Every single time they faced Wakefield last year they were able to touch him up. There’s no reason they shouldn’t be able to do so tonight.
Patrick,
No reason to get snippy here. You think the Yankees should go all-in this season, I disagree. Looking at where the Yankees are in the standings, and looking at the injuries they are dealing with right now, I just don’t agree with sending a slew of prospects for a rental that may not even get you to the playoffs this season.
By-the-by, if Pettite isn’t an established #2 starter, I’m not entirely sure what is. I’ll agree there isn’t an established #1 starter, but I’ll also grant there aren’t very many of those throughout all of baseball, and even with his bad inning tonight, Joba has certainly looked like he could pull a Justin Verlander, Yovani Gallardo, or Tim Lincecum for this team.
Yes, the Yankees would be a better team with Sabathia on it, than with Sabathia off it. I’m just not convinced the price in prospects would have justified the move, and I’m not convinced the Yankees even matched up well enough with the Indians to get a deal done.
And even if they did, like I said before, jumping the gun on Sabathia just isn’t something this team seems like it is in a position to make. I think the innings have to do with that, I think having the Rays be nine games ahead of you have to do with that, I think a crowded wild card picture has to do with that. An underachieving Detroit offense (although their pitching looks just as bad as New York’s) has to do with that.
But again, it’s just my opinion. You can feel free to disagree with me, but I think I’m being far more reasonable than your crack-addict off the streets.
LOL Doris. You’re the joke. You don’t even know if you’re Arthur or Martha, you racist embarrassment.
Yes, get yourself ejected over a call in the 5th inning. There’s aggressiveness and fire, and then there’s throwing a temper tantrum.
very funny…. look what he says about varitek: http://insider.espn.go.com/mlb/allstar08/insider/columns/story?columnist=law_keith&id=3475562&lpos=spotlight&lid=tab1pos1
A “blockbuster” trade, Joe? LOL…….
I love people whining about the pitching.
Do Yankee pitchers have to pitch shutouts at home to win games?
Geez, do some of you even watch the games? They don’t hit.
They don’t hit anybody. Not Boston, KC, Cincinnati, Texas, who in the world have they hit at home this year? Nobody.
You can bring in CC Sabathia, Koufax, Drysdale, Johan Santana and 10 other guys, if this team can’t hit, they can’t win.
Don’t tell me they are “going to hit” either.
When? Its game 89 tonight. Tell me when they are going to hit? Game 90, 119, 162? Tell me when this team will hit because they haven’t hit all season.
The biggest home series of the year and this supposed “great” offense got dominated by the worst pitching staff in baseball (Texas) except for one lucky game (and they should thank Ron Washington for that), and Boston.
Its the offense. Has been all year, and until they blow up this team and get new players, it will be the rest of the season.
It is a putrid offensive baseball team. Given the money spent on offense, far and away, the worst offense in baseball.
That’s why they aren’t winning. It has nothing to do with the pitching.
CC to brewers. I woudl have bet a bunch he would end up with the cubs
im a racist? how’s that?
vote giambi in 08!
joba strikes out jd drew on three fastballs, but he has to monkey around with breaking balls when he gets a a 2-2 count to ellsbury.
that’s giving way too much credit to the hitter.
if joba doesn’t learn to locate and depend on the fastball more he’s going to slow down his development. locate the fastball!
what’s molina thinking back there? love his arm. not too sure about his pitch calling.
Doris, a real Yankee fan doesn’t refer to the 1st baseman as Youk
Joe Morgan should keep his retarded analysis to baseball only. No need to bring other sports into discussion
And you wonder why people hate your guts Doris From Rego Park. It’s that condescending smugness “you” are so famous for.
Ron like it matters if he’s ejected in the 5th inning. You think they’ll have trouble scoring without him on the bench.
@Angel – new name?
What the hell was Posada looking for?
THIS STRIKE ZONE IS SOOOOO ERRATIC….
NO CONSISTENCY.
and yes, i’m complaining.
I cant belive they gave up Laporta for a rental… but at least the NL is wide open.
SJ-
since you are one of the few people on here who dont view the world with pin-striped glasses on, when do they fire kevin long?
SJ44,
Call me crazy but I still think they’ll hit. Maybe it’s blind faith but I still expect a turnaround in that dept.
You know, I really haven’t seen much of the curveball or changeup. If he’s going to dominate teams like the Sox, he needs more than two pitches, no matter how great they are. I hope the Yankees haven’t forgotten.
We’ve got to stop trying to draw walks, even against a knuckleballer like Wakefield. Swing the damn bats, already.
So this is the best Joba can do AT HOME and when neither Manny or Ortiz is in the lineup? Great, another overrated Yankee prospect.
My god, can we even score 2-3 more runs?
Strongly doubt it.
SJ: While sometimes I think your in game posts are a little reactionary, you are dead on with that post.
The Yankees haven’t hit anyone. There’s no reason their offense should be dead in the water this year, but they have. For a while Alex and Jorge coming back from the DL helped, but they’re not getting any production from Jeter, and only ust starting to get help from Robbie.
Also, this umpire is horrible. And this inning isn’t looking any better.
It’s depressing.
I’m surprised you weren’t banned for your “who’d win a drinking contest between Ellsbury and Chamberlain” comment.
Yep, that was racist.
They cannot center the ball. Cano had a good swing, but he just missed the meat of the bat.
They should be asamed of discussing this garbage during the game.
oh no, a few unsophisticaled yankee fans hate my guts becuase I dont tow the company line? thats tragic.
Cano sucks.
Patrick Bateman how old are you?
Also wondering if there is a sewer you can fall into?
The Yankees have one hit against Tim Wakefield and Jose Molina and Brett Gardner are due up in the 6th.
I’m not getting snippy, you just have nothing to support these ridiculous statements.
Have you watched any of the games this year? How can you say with a straight face that pitching isn’t a need on this team? Who cares if he’s a rental. If he walks you take the 2 draft picks, but I find it hard to believe the Yankees would let him walk. We’re not talking about the Rays here. Its not like the Yankees are hard up for money.
Pettitte is barely a #2 starter. He’s inconsistent this year. He’s got #3 type numbers. Its 2008 not 1997.
Prospects are unproven players. What did your prospects do this year? Absolutely nothing. Too much stock is being put into players that haven’t proved anything. Not to mention that Cashman and people on this board overvalue the Yankee prospects. Just listening saying that Kennedy and Tabata would be better than LaPorta shows that nobody here knows what they’re talking about.
Sabathia is 28. You act like you’re giving away 23 year old kids for some 40 year old dinosaur.
I miss having an offense that scores lotsa runs..
” just inside-outed a 98 mph fastball.”
the location was horrible, right at the waist. fastballs depend on location.
either get it really up and in on pedroia or get it down and in.
he’s a high ball hitter.
so ortiz and manny are both out..and we dont win tonight. pathetic.
1 hit!!!(albeit a hr)us absurd for this team.
cc going to the brew-crew shows that mil cares more about winning then this team… sad, pathetic and downright embarrassing.
this brett kid needs to go away now.
if we lose to this slug…I am going to be seriously ill….
whats racist about asking that?
So this is the best Joba can do AT HOME and when neither Manny or Ortiz is in the lineup? Great, another overrated Yankee prospect….
I dont like you because you’re rascist and you seem to be pretending to be something you’re not, a woman for starters.
Were screwed. we need a lot of help to even get into contention for a playoff spot.. I think we should trade a-rod so we can get ride of the a-rod curse..
What can Kevin Long do? Honestly?
Teams fire hitting coaches when the offense is struggling and they want someone to blame. It’s like the Mariners firing Jeff Pentland. Pentland was a good hitting coach, he was just coaching bad hitters.
Firing Kevin Long will do nothing. Absolutely nothing.
I’m not even defending his work. I’m just saying it will be completely pointless.
Long isn’t urging his players to be hyper-aggressive. That’s their fault.
Joba’s getting squeezed but that’s not the story of the game. We should not have to sink or swim if we give up more than 1 RUN!
What a disgrace. Just a disgrace.
I don’t know how the hitting coach is the culprit here.
Its a veteran team. Its the same hitting coach that was there last year.
He’s not changing his approach. The hitters are changing theirs.
You can fire him as some kind of fallguy situation but, its not going to make this team hit. It never does.
The Mets fired Rick Down last year and they didn’t hit.
The Blue Jays and Mariners fired their hitting coaches this year and they didn’t hit. The Royals demoted theirs and they didn’t hit.
Players play. Its on the players, especially with a veteran team like the Yankees, more than its on the pitching coach.
This is going to be a LONG season.
vote big g for the final spot at http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/events/all_star/y2008/index.jsp
“Have you watched any of the games this year? How can you say with a straight face that pitching isn’t a need on this team? Who cares if he’s a rental.”
I don’t think anyone can argue that the Yanks don’t need pitching. However, I think it’s fair to suggest that it’s not their most pressing need at the moment.
I’m actually glad to see CC go to the NL, to a team that probably won’t sign him, so the Yanks can get him without giving up any talent if they so choose.
Doris,
Ever take a US History course?
are these umps being paid by the sox? they are blowing alot calls
“the location was horrible, right at the waist. fastballs depend on location.
either get it really up and in on pedroia or get it down and in.
he’s a high ball hitter.”
I’m not sure what you saw, but I saw Pedroia somehow fight off a fastball in, up (relatively speaking – Pedroia’s a midget), and off the plate.
I have to agree with SJ44 on this one. To me, out of all the games this year, this one has been the most disturbing. There’s no offensive approach, and it looks like the hitters want to get out of there. It doesn’t even look like they honestly believe they can get hits off Wakefield.
wait, you figured out im not a woman? You must have gone to five towns college. you’re smart. I never claimed to be a woman, you dolt.
michael,
I’m there with ya. Already voted for Giambi about 15 times.
“the Red Sox aren’t getting blown away by the fastball. ”
That’s the point – you don’t need to blow every hitter away. That’s exactly the thinking that got Joba into trouble with Ellsbury.
Ellsbury is a singles hitter – he has a .381 slugging percentage.
What you can’t do in that situation is walk him. You just can’t do that. Make Ellsbury hit his way on base. At best he’s going to hit a single.
Joba doesn’t need to strike every hitter out but when he gets in trouble he tries to. Part of learning as a young pitcher.
One of hte best aspects of Joba’s pitching is the fact that he’s an extreme ground ball pitcher. Joba induced nearly as many ground ball outs as Wang has this year. Over 50% of Joba’s outs are ground balls.
3-2 and you have that kind of fastball – you challenge the hitter and if he hits it he hits it.
He should have hit his ugly mug.
sj-
if you’re right about kevin long and hitting coaches in general, why even have one?
Get off the plate, Kevin.
I love the people who say “I bet or I believe the Yankees will start to hit.” That is like flipping a coin on tails 30 times in a row and saying “I bet you will flip a heads soon.”
An extended slump with this lineup should never happen given the resumes and payrolls of the players on this team. Going into this series it wasn’t unrealistic to think the Yankees would lose the Rasner/Beckett game and have the upperhand in the other three pitching matchups. But here we are on Sunday night with a chance to lose three at home to Boston and fall to ONE GAME OVER .500 AT HOME in 2008.
When the Yankees pitch, they don’t hit and when they hit, they don’t pitch. It’s hard to win many games like that. They are 12 outs from being 11 games back in the loss column in the division and 6 back in the wild card. Pretty embarrassing.
seriously…
youk has a serious attitude problem.
laura- thats racist.
Nice maybe this’ll wake them up
As always, Patrick overreacts.
good hbp by joba, youk bush leauge player
Yuck-Face is one of the ugliest humans on record….add in the fact that he is a RedSuck and just the sight of him makes my stomach turn.
“what’s molina thinking back there? love his arm. not too sure about his pitch calling.”
Joba shook Molina off. That’s why Molina went out to the mound before the pitch.
youklis looks like a donkey the way he holds the bat. quit compensating for your goofy coarse red beard with macho antics.
Joba you go! Freaking Red Sox have been doing this to out hot hitters for the last 10 years. Youkilis shut your mouth and deal with it!
pretty dp
I mean, his slider and fastball are great. But I’m a bit concerned by the fact that I haven’t seen a curveball in ages and I’ve never seen this changeup at all. They should at least work them in as change-of-pace type pitches.
Giambi’s stache tells the haters to shut up.
Giambi! The throw! Make that man an All-Star!
Let’s go bats! This is ridiculous.
Wow, the ’stache actually threw to 2B w/o sending it into LF. I’m so proud of him. Send that man to the All-Star Game!!
Did I just see a 3-6-3 double play turned by Giambi?
Youk don’t act like your tough you know your not.
Doris From Rego Park July 6th, 2008 at 9:39 pm
wait, you figured out im not a woman? You must have gone to five towns college. you’re smart. I never claimed to be a woman, you dolt.
DORIS..I am shocked! Shocked Doris!
How could anyone ever think you were a woman Doris.
Very strange..Doris
Great picture check it out
http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u144/halfdzjohnsons/ShrekOrtizMannydonkey.jpg
Big G! Gorgeous play. I’m going to go out on a limb and say that fires up the batters for us this inning.
SJ44,
Step off the ledge. In the first half, A-Rod, Posada, Damon, Jeter and Matsui have all missed significant playing time. Jeter and Posada are still somewhat hobbled by injuries. Cano has stunk for most of the 1st half but is hot now and has always had strong 2nd halfs. Furthermore, virtually everyone is doing poorly in the clutch. Why would you assume that would have to continue in the 2nd half? The team is aging and its possible to envision that injuries will plague them in the 2nd half as well but if most of guys are healthy in the 2nd half, they will be better offensively. They always have been in the 2nd half.
If their everyday players aren’t healthy and never get it together, the addition of a front line starter isn’t going to make a difference. I’d still argue though tha its much easier to envision the offense turning around though than Rasner or Ponson being forces in the rotation.
“This is going to be a LONG season.”
It will be still 162 games only
Get to work bats…
Doris is alywas on the wfan.. Come on guys.. She is the best..
Should qualify for a web gem but won’t.
Can’t believe some people are burying Joba. This offense is horrible, just such a disgrace. SJ44 is right. Do you guys expect the pitchers to throw a shutout every night?
1 hit is pathetic.
This is July 6th and yet again we are scoring nothing except on A-Rod’s solo HR. This is all on the offense. Our pitching is good enough to be in first place, if we could score more than 1 or 2 runs every freaking game.
There is no excuse. These guys are veterans who should know how to hit in these spots. They are going up there with no game plan and it’s evident as they hack away at crap out of the zone so often and don’t grind out at bats.
They’re a dead team. No fire, no enthusiasm, no fight. They’re getting what they’re playing like. It’s a shame too, because besides one nice hit by Pedroia, Joba is pitching a heck of a game, yet he might get the loss because we can’t score yet again .
I’m all for knocking the hitting, but let’s not go overboard with the pitching. Did I miss something, did they not give up about 7 runs Wednesday, 7 runs on Thursday and 6 runs on Friday? That’s 2 games ago.
Why do we only have 1 hit?
What happened to this board? Last year, we had some great baseball discussions in some great game threads. This year? Not so much. Almost like quality was sacrificed by the quantity. Sad.
Brandon (Jeter GIDP: 12) (Johan Santana HR count: 13 and a SP)
July 6th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
Youk don’t act like your tough you know your not.
How would you possibly have any idea if Youk is tough or not?
Hey I remember when the Red Sox were down a million games one August and came back to win it all I believe. I never want to lose but I can’t say it’s over if we do.
Does pitch count even matter with Wakefield? He barely even uses his arm.
At this point last year we had won 5/6 games going into the all star break and were scoring tons of runs. Just because the team is one or two games better this year doesn’t mean they are going to make the playoffs because of it. They are playing like garbage and their run differential is much worse than last year’s, and on top of that, they can’t hit like last year’s team .
Are the Brewers going to be able to re sign Sabathia or is this just a half year deal?
Randy,
Did Kevin Long get dumb in one year? You know baseball. Do you think he is telling guys to swing at every first pitch, not work counts, not use fundamental hitting principles to advance runners and get runners in with less than 2 outs from third base?
What can he do when he has a bunch of guys, many past their primes, guessing on every pitch, trying to cheat too much to yank fastballs, and won’t work counts?
How does he tell guys in the last year of their contracts, to make “productive outs” to advance runners, when they are trying to drive in runs to pad their numbers so they can get a new contract at the end of the season?
Its why I have said all year its a bad mix of players. Too many guys who are just thinking about their own numbers and not doing what’s best for the team.
I have yet to see a team that fires a hitting coach during the season hit better after the firing.
You can the change coaches but, if you can’t change the players, you aren’t changing anything.
Look, Joba had one bad inning. Made worse by Danley blowing the Strike 3 call on the check swing by Ellsbury.
That said, if this team can only score 1 or 2 runs a game, they aren’t winning many games the rest of the way.
“I’m not sure what you saw, but I saw Pedroia somehow fight off a fastball in, up (relatively speaking – Pedroia’s a midget), and off the plate.”
i saw a fastball a little above his waist and in.
i watch the red sox a lot being in the region and pedroia doesn’t hit low pitches well or up and in fastballs. anything else up he kills.
the real point is he should have dealt with ellsbury.
but with pedroia, if you are going to pitch to him, a little above the waist isn’t the place to go.
This lineup is truly terrible. They cant even hit wakefield and his 72 mph fastballs he mixes in. They need to do something other than an a-rod hr.
This strikezone isnt helping
http://www.newyorkyankeesnews.com/maelias33/weblog/
It is unbeleivable to see the defeatist attitude of so many ardent fans here. Do you expect every day the opposition to be shut down? You expect the Yankees to be in lead all the time in every game? It does not work that way. If it is, they should finish 162-0.
It is still 6th inning folks.
This dude has to do something or their is going to be a problem
That is beyond horrendous.
let’s start pounding this grandpa !
Someone drill Youkilis in the head at his next at bat. Teach this guy a lesson.
Waaaaaah Youkilis is complaining “I almost got hit”. Shut up. I hope he beam him in the back next time. Then he’ll have the right to complain.
can we get a hit? Anything…
Youkillis crying to the umpire, thats what you get for playing dirty and trying to take out Joba
How is anyone suppose to know what is going to be a ball or strike in Diaz’s strike zone?
John Sterling was just talking about how “inconsistent” the Yankee offense has been. “Inconsistent” is a description that keeps coming up when discussing the Yanks season.
Well, I must disagree. With the exception of a two week stretch in June, they have consistently STUNK!
I’m sorry…but I do not wish nice things for Youk.
That is as far as i’ll go.
JOOOOEEEEE G!!!!!
“Should qualify for a web gem but won’t.”
True. It’s an exceptional play for Giambi, but a routine one for a real 1B.
What is with this ump?
Here’s some fire. And it’s deserved.
He gets thrown out for this but not the check swing! Give me a break! Too late Joe!!
About time !
ooohhh look at Joe go..
Tell him Joe!!!
Im starting to like Joe G
So will Joba be suspended for missing Youkilis? We know a lot of Yankees get suspended for not hitting batters, like joba hawkins and farnsworth. While Crisp gets nothing for charging mound.
http://www.newyorkyankeesnews.com/maelias33/weblog/
This offense is horrendous.
They should gut this whole team and be done with it.
I guess lat night’s win was just a flash in the pan. Yankees are back to their anemic hitting, leaving men on base, and swinging at first pitches. Too bad they are wasting Joba’s effort, even though they have socked him with 3 runs.
Yankees will win only 2 out of a nine game homestand. If that doesn’t tell you the current sad state of this team, I don’t know what will.
OK…we are officially done in the game…Joba is squeezed and WakeJerk is given pitches off the plate….Good Night, ALL…..it has been real…..bad, that is…
Girardi has every right to be pissed here. Joba’s been gettin squeezed all night and Wakefield’s gotten every call.
Kick some dirt Joe
THANK YOU JOE! We’ve been getting screwed by these umpires all game and series long and the strike call to Molina was an embarrassment. Maybe this will get the crowd and team back in it.
Think Girardi’s upset?
2-3 more runs is a tall order when they’re not hitting. As SJ44 said, if Yankee pitchers basically have to pitch shutouts to win, the Yanks are done. The Yankees’ pitchers have done the job for the most part, as has the bullpen. And as Ken Singleton of YES always says, the name of the game is to win series, which has not been happening for some time now.
Laz Diaz has been, is, and will always be a horrible umpire.
Boy does high-def bring out Girardi’s neck veins.
Wow, I was just looking at Gameday to see the next pitch because I had a feeling Gardner would strike out and then all of sudden shocking news, Girardi good bye
Let’s get it started, Brett!
Arguing balls and strikes?
Gameday doesn’t say.
Oooooo-weee!! Joe’s head looks like it’s going to explode. Good for him though – the strike zone has been ridiculous tonight.
So now Chad Moeller is the manager?
Lets hear the Gardner hate
There ya go, Joe ! Take his damn head off….That jerk needs to just put on a BoSux cap and be done with it…what a bunch of crapola !
Girardi was about to pop a vein underneath is eye.
“I love the people who say “I bet or I believe the Yankees will start to hit.†That is like flipping a coin on tails 30 times in a row and saying “I bet you will flip a heads soon.—
uhhh… the odds are overwhelmingly in the favor of heads coming “soon” in that scenario (within the next few flips).. so yes.
Joe hates to lose looked like the veins were gonna pop out of his neck
please, are there any lipreaders in the house?? dying to know what they are saying!
run like the wind!!!!!!!!!!
Throwing behind that ugly dude and Joe going balistic is just good baseball.
All due respect to Joe Morgan but his retarded.
now turn this into a triple brett.
I love how Joe Morgan lives by the “K-Zone.” The thing is not 3-dimensional and cannot tell the break or depth on pitches. Both of those pitches were clearly out of the rulebook strike zone.
LOL @ Brett Gardner’s intro song being Beyonce
Gardner better steal before Jeter hits a ground ball
CB is right , Joba shook off Molina..The last time this subject came up some of us got our tails chewed off…..Veteran catcher, 21 year old pitcher….Although that was still a tough pitch, in that spot you need to throw your best pitch…And not shake off your catcher…..
run brett, run like the wind!!!
“Youkillis crying to the umpire, thats what you get for playing dirty and trying to take out Joba”
Sarcasm, I hope. Youk’s a slug but nothing that wasn’t clean about that play at the plate.
stolen base time, then Jeter drives him in….let’s start mashing Pa Kettle here !
K-Zone is a joke, those two pitches were not strikes. They only show it to go against Yankees never to support their arguments.
STEAL PLEASE STEAL
http://www.newyorkyankeesnews.com/maelias33/weblog/
Jeter should have kicked youkillis in the face on that flyby double play
Gardner needs to be on 2nd here. SB incoming!
The veins in Joe’s head were about to pop..
Wow. Cash made that really close.
if there is a brawl, just make sure farnsworth is in the game…. that is a one bad man
Can u get a freaking hit captain clutch
thank GOD the double play is eliminated now.
This kid is awesome
I can’t wait til right after the game when SJ44 gives his 100,000 word diatribe on what ails the team.
Lousy jump by Gardner. Worse throw by Cash.
brett has more steals than hits.
I know he wasn’t trying to hurt him
note to Derek don’t swing until brett is at third
I like what Gardner brings. Hopefully he can get that bat going.
Brett should go for 3B.
Oh, what the hell. Steal third too.
Ill ask this again.
Will the Yankees be able to bid on Sabathia after this season or are the Brewers working on an extension?
matt
July 6th, 2008 at 9:51 pm
K-Zone is a joke, those two pitches were not strikes. They only show it to go against Yankees never to support their arguments.
And you wonder why everyone hates yanee fans…
Rally time!
A hit with two strikes and a RISP! Holy Cow!
The Captain is still clutch.
This is why Gardner is up. Turns the single into a double because of the SB and then scores on a single
The Sabathia deal is a rental deal. They won’t sign him. They will take the draft picks.
there you go Jete.
this offense is horrendous.
Glad to see that Joe finally got fired up about something.
Laz Diaz umpires worse that the Yankees hit.
I cant hate on Brett, two whole hits so far in his MLB career !!
did I call it…or DID I CALL IT ! Wa-HOOOOOOO !
The generous strike zone for Wakefield wouldn’t be so offensive if Joba wasn’t being squeezed so bad. Plus, the blown check swing cost us two runs.
I dont know Doris. How could I possibly mistake you, calling yourself Doris, for a woman? It beats the hell out of me.
Abreu is so due to do something.
Those knuckleballs aren’t even close to the zone.
At no point did I say that Tabata and Kennedy were equivalent to LaPorta. Number one, both of them have had terrible seasons thus far; number two, neither even match up with Cleveland’s needs.
If the Yankees can just sign C.C. Sabathia this off-season, there doesn’t seem to be a pressing need to try and throw talent at him before the trade deadline, either. The Brewers were only going to get C.C. Sabathia on their team via a trade; the Yankees have the luxury of simply purchasing him on the free agent market for 2009. They will also have the luxury of fielding a deeper rotation, since they’ll have Wang for a full season, Chamberlain with a year of experience (and innings) under his belt, and Pettitte can sit at the back of the rotation.
Mussina is 28th in the AL according to SNLVAR, Pettitte 38th. I guess you can argue that’s performance befitting the middle of the rotation (#3 starter). I think that both pitchers’ recent performance suggests they’re both trending up. Pettitte has a proven track record as a #2 starter, too, which is why I brought it up. If we want to project going forward, I think I would be very-well justified in putting track records aside and projecting Chamberlain as a #2 starter, for example. He definitely has the stuff, and he’s been beaten more by his own pitch counts and innings limits than his ability to get hitters out.
And that’s another reason why it seems like it makes more sense to play for next year, and not go all-in this year. As I mentioned before, you’ll have Chamberlain as a starter for a full season, and for more innings.
I just think, ultimately, the Yankees would be better served packaging their top minor league talent for position players, not for pitching talent. I think the Yankees have the pieces in place to have a very strong pitching staff going forward, and they’ll have the luxury of picking up a Sabathia, Burnett, or a Sheets on the free agent market if they want that surer top-of-the-line starter.
In short, yes, I’ve watched the games this year. I’ve seen the Yankees lose more games this year based on putrid offensive performances, than putrid pitching performances. That very well may change moving forward, and there’s a decent chance for that; Mussina could regress, the 4/5 starters (whoever they may be) could be seriously exposed, and Joba could get exposed. But if the pitching holds up, and the offense continues to struggle, then SJ is right – you could have Sabathia on this team, and it really won’t make a bit of difference.
Whereas if the offense really comes alive, it won’t really matter who is pitching, if the Yankees can just outslug everyone the rest of the way. It’s just really hard to get a read on this team right now, and where they’re going to be moving forward; it has as much to do with their offense coming alive, as it does their players (Matsui, Damon) getting healthy. And right now, it’s really hard to make a definitive judgment on that, which is why it’s really hard (in my opinion) to justify jumping the gun for Sabathia to win *this season.*
“Sarcasm, I hope. Youk’s a slug but nothing that wasn’t clean about that play at the plate.”
I know he wasn’t trying to hurt him
Nice Jetes
come on Bobby
Now this is looking better!
Yes, warm the BP up Sox…hahahaha did he throw the knuckler to Youk?
I don’t see the Brewers signing CC. He’ll be on the Free Agent market for sure.
lol, it can’t even spell yankee fans.
Come on offense. Show some fight.
Time for a 2 run jack…JACK !
youklis is a donkey.
They better take advantage of this.
I’m stunned that wasn’t called a strike.
Thanks for answering my question SJ. Think we’ll offer him something? Or will Cashman not bother ?
i love Wake saying my bad.
you think?
“The Sabathia deal is a rental deal. They won’t sign him. They will take the draft picks.”
Yes SJ. This trade is a GOOD thing. Now he may be a possibility for us in free agency. Yanks have serious money freed up at the end of this season.
I would love to see Joba drill Youklis right in the back, arm, or right off the knuckles.
He is such a punk. Maybe Manny was right.
One out Jeter on 2nd. This is were Abreu and Arod have to get it done and get him in and tie this game!
Angel- my apologies. next time ill pick a more androgynous (ill let you go look it up) name just for you, sweetie.
Oh you’ve got to be kidding me!
And that’s what happens to the 2008 Yankees. Standard.
That was so not fair.
And they don’t!
ugh, Jeter still manages to be in a DP. Classic.
Wakefield was sweating, we’re getting to him!
Cant blame either Abreu or Jetes. He made a good play. Still have 3 innings
We can’t catch a break. Lugo made an incredible play, that should have tied it up.
Jeter has turned into Jose Reyes.
Dang it!!
dammit.. that might have been all she wrote I doubt they keep the intesity past this inning.
Can’t teach speed, that is why if Gardner can .270 with a .380 obp, he should stick.
Also, if anyone recalls Little Dustin didn’t het so well to start his career and look at him now.
As for prospects, sometimes it take a little time look at Beckett, even Johan adn RJ took a little time to hit their grove.
Boy, Lugo just got a gift.
The Yankee season in 3 seconds…right there….
Ack. Oh well, that was showing fight, at least.
cant fault bobby there
That wasnt Jeter’s fault. Great play.
Boston Dave:
Actually, if you’re betting on a coin flip, it doesn’t matter whether the last thirty throws were tails, or if the last thirty throws were split fifteen-fifteen. The point of probabilities is that they’re going to remain the same; it will always be 50-50 on the next toss, and while that *generally* averages out to a heads one time out of two, or fifty times out of one hundred, probabilities aren’t going to change just because that didn’t happen x number of times in the past.
Sometimes you’re unlucky, and you remain unlucky for the rest of the year. Happened to the Cleveland Indians in 2006, when they had one of the largest run-differentials in baseball, but not the record to show for it. You might have expected their actual record to fall into line along the way, and for luck to swing their way, but it just didn’t happen.
And damn, what an unlucky break there. The one time Abreu puts really good wood on the ball and doesn’t try to do too much, too.
i kill jeter more than anyone but i dont blame him there
It’s not over. Keep it close.
Girardi was ejected and Giambi started a DP! Pete’s right, the Yankees can’t lose!
I don’t need to look it up, Doris. Unlike you, I can spell.
“I don’t see the Brewers signing CC. He’ll be on the Free Agent market for sure.”
Probably true. Brewers are making a run at a playoff spot and will likely take draft picks in favor of signing Sabathia. Yanks would lose their 1st rounder to sign him, but they’ll have a shot. Lot still think he prefers the other coast.
Can’t stand the sob ( Youklis ), but he’s a hell of ballplayer…
what’s wrong with JEter?
Boy, would people be screaming if ARod screw-up like that.
To me, Jeter is at fault there. He HAS to make sure that ball clears the infield before he starts running.
Let’s go David
Yeh I can’t fault Jetes there, Lugo for some strange reason showed off the glove there.
Doh!
Pat M,
You remember that? LOL
Yes, he shouldn’t have shaken off Jose but, he also got hosed by Danley on third base on that call. Ellsbury swung.
Either way, Joba has pitched well tonight in his first start against the Red Sox. The offense is just, offensive.
Nothing else that can be said. Until they hit, they will continue to lose, regardless of who is pitching.
We still have Arod batting likely 2 more times in this game. We still have a shot
Angel- are you a stripper? If not, I feel like you are guilty of the same thing I am.
Heres my boy Robertson
“Boston Dave:
Actually, if you’re betting on a coin flip, it doesn’t matter whether the last thirty throws were tails, or if the last thirty throws were split fifteen-fifteen. The point of probabilities is that they’re going to remain the same; ”
Actually Fallen Phoenix, that is why my point is correct. The odds of heads coming soon IS very good over the course of a few flips.
Are you guys clueless?
So that’s not a strike?!
Time for Sugar Puffs to show us what he is made of !
I hate this guy’s strike zone
In my opinion, that’s a good play by Jeter. That ball looked headed for left field and he needed the break off second to try and score there. It would take an amazing play by Lugo to make the catch, and unbelievabnly, he made it.
Joba needs to work on being able to give us more than just 6 innings.
whew…almost didn’t make it past the unnecessarily salacious recounting of a-rod’s private life…but glad i’m here. serious yankee fans here thats great! need a transcript of giradi’s “conversation” with the umpire. but let’s pull out this win first!
I’m sorry, but this ump blows chunks
Yeah but money talks. He wants Santana Money, and for no prospects we have the money to do it. But the Yankees are the type of team to give him incentives for losing weight. He will make bank if he comes to us.
New Stadium + New Ace = ALOT of money
“Yes, he shouldn’t have shaken off Jose but, he also got hosed by Danley on third base on that call. Ellsbury swung.”
Sadly, the replay said otherwise.
That was kinda deflating. The man who has more errors than anyone flies in the face of reality and makes a decent play to rob Abreu.
While Crisp can catch up with a fastball, Lugo’s got all the batspeed of Bernie Williams.
What a bust he’s been.
JOe Morgan just stop talking..
I dont expect Joba to give us many 6+ inning starts this season.
great job, captain….
….
Jeter, what the hell are you doing?
I guess I misunderstood. The way you worded it seemed to suggest there was a better-than-even chance that heads would come up soon, when in fact there’s still an even chance that heads will come up soon. (If it’s tails 30 times out of 30, it’ll still be a 50% chance of heads or tails the next flip. If it’s tails 15 times out of 30, it’ll still be a 50% chance of heads or tails the next flip. But that doesn’t guarantee there will be a disproportionate number of heads moving forward to “correct” the disproportionate number of tails prior.)
But yeah, my mistake; I misunderstood what you were trying to convey.
It doesn’t matter, but I think Jeter was in the wrong there. He should have made sure it got through. To be fair I was sitting with my mouth hanging open when Lugo caught it.
Jebus Christ
Jeter should have held on to that one.
Exactly, Fredo. At least it looked that way to me and I’m rooting for the Yankees.
Jeter’s decay as a player can no longer be ignored. No reason to make that throw and sorry, you can’t get doubled off second with the play in front of you.
Man, what has happened to him the last 6 weeks?
Yeah Joba should be able to give them more than 6, but in this game, he’s at 101 pitches, so he COULD have given them more than 6. But when the bullpen has been untouchable, why do it? He has an innings limit so right here it saves him an inning if Robertson can pitch a scoreless 7th here.
Either way, these are games the Yankees should win. When a Yankee starter gives a quality start like Joba gave them tonight, there’s no reason an offense like this should lose the game, especially against Tim Wakefield. When it’s playoff time, yes, I’d like to see him go 7, but in this game, there’s no reason he really needs to go 7 innings.
Robertson needs to pick Jeter up here and keep it at 3-2.
Why would my name make me a stripper? Enlighten me.
Make sure the line drives go through – every time I’ve EVER been on 1st base with less than 2 outs that’s what the 1st base coach has said.
That said – that’s a tough one to put any blame on. Lugo made a great play.
Fallen Phoenix,
sorry, I should have figured that. I didn’t think it warranted a lengthy response but that did make it less obvious.
Yanks are 4 – 35 when behind after 6 innings.
I didn’t say that you thought Kennedy and Tabata was better than LaPorta, I said people here do. Which shows an overvalue of Yankee prospects, which is the same thing Cashman is doing.
At some point you gotta stop planning for “next year” all the time. It 6 days into July and you’re planning for next year. Your position players are all fossils in baseball years. Everyone is over 30 except for Cano and Melky, and Melky is a 4th outfielder at best.
Burnett and Sheets can’t stay healthy. Already have one Pavano on the roster, why add two more? This team needs healthy #1 starters. Not junk. Watched junk on this roster since 2001. Two ace pitchers killed this team in the 2001 WS, Johnson and Schilling. Still haven’t gotten an ace in 7 years.
Mussina has done a fine job thus far, but lets be honest. He hasn’t pitched 200 innings in 5 years. He’s also barely getting through 6 innings.
In my opinion this team is short 3 pieces for this season and the future. A big right handed outfield power bat, an ace starter, and a strong #2 type starter.
I didn’t realize that CLE was doing so poorly. They are in last, 14 games out. No wonder they dealt CC.
Ugly!
Did Kevin Cash just beat us?
Oh David, why?
Derek Jerer is Patrick Ewing at the end of his career
Jeter made the correct play there – that was a super catch by Lugo. Could we please have a moratorium on Alex’s personal life- it is sad enough that a family is dissolving- stick to sports.
Funny isn’t it, MLB turned off the pitch tracking on gameday when the ump starts pulling strike/ball calls out of his butt.
Thanks Jeter, your idiotic throwing error on a ball you should have just eaten puts us behind a 2nd run and probably ends any hope of a comeback.
Ouch. Robertson hung that curve bad.
And Kevin Cash comes away with a clutch double. You can’t make this stuff up.
come on David
Yankees are a 500 ball club!!! yes and i say trade abreu and lets officially rebuild
Not that impressed with Robertson, pitching to the bottom of the order. Little movement on his fastball. Now it’s 4-2 with Ellsbury. Uh oh!!
Jeter should just admit to the fans that he is hurt or what his problem really is. Otherwise people are going to just assume that he is finished. He could not possibly play any worse then he has this year. He also just cost them a run in this game and probably the game. He is absolutely TERRIBLE!!!
wow people questioning Derek Jeter? There are really some lame brains out tonight.
Boston Dave:
Brevity’s not my strong suit. I always waste more ink than necessary regardless of what I’m trying to convey. So, yeah…that’s just a recurring theme with me.
“Yanks are 4 – 35 when behind after 6 innings.”
They will be 5-35 after this game.
because alot of strippers are name Angel
Crap..
Meaningless Arod,
We are rebuilding already. Yankees arent a team to have Rookies or 23 year olds at every position.
“Could we please have a moratorium on Alex’s personal life- it is sad enough that a family is dissolving- stick to sports.”
Baseball’s most talented and highest paid player is getting a divorce and you didn’t think people would comment on that? Yeah, it’s his personal life, but he’s a Yankee. His current marital situation could affect his play. That makes it something that should be pondered by fans IMO.
Joe morgan cant count he is soo dumb
Oh yeah, because they have shown so many signs of fighting and coming back. Besides last inning, they had 1 hit the whole rest of the game! Embarrassing and pathetic.
No worries…let’s Timlin in the eight. “inning over…uhhhh excuse me two outs. Been a long inning.” Time to retire!
the error by Jeter obviously was key.
the yanks just cannot get the big play. abreu DP.. all you need to know..
did not see Joba walk Ellsbury on offspeed pitch to bring up Pedroia, sounds like a stupid move..
Joba’s biggest issues is wasting pitches…
the offense is almost in a COMA…
Jeff NJ-
you can’t call people a “lame brain” for saying Jeter has decayed as a player.
Did they really take off the pitch tracking, Matt?
I’m still floored by the second pitch on the stupid ESPN K zone that Girardi got thrown out, that was just outside the K zone, being referred to by Joe Morgan as a clear strike. Is he that blind?
Here we go. Were going to tie it up here
SJ44, Joba turned in what is considered to be a quality start…..Jeter is an old 33 I think…Remember he’s played an additional season just in October’s past….Can’t fault him on the doubled up liner…..I do think Derek is playing hurt though…As for the shake off, that’s the learning curve I suppose….
JON MILLER IS A DRUNK…CALL THE GAME..”AND THAT’S THE END OF THE INNING …OH NO NO THAT’S TWO OUTS”
good play captain, 4th good play of the night. Almost had the great one this inning too. Ignore the reactionaries and Lupica-ites.
JeTER’S baserunning is not what it used to be. He’s made more mistakes this year than he used to in 2 years. Of course, I think he used to make bascally no baserunning mistakes. Among the best baserunners I ever saw. I used to think it was the single thing he did best on the field.
Why is that an earned run against Robertson?
Laura:
Arod’s a slug. If we know nothing else about him it’s that he has no soul. Aas such, he is not going to have any trouble playing thru this. Just as he had no problem playing thru the issues around that bimbo from last year.
jeter is in full decline mode
““Could we please have a moratorium on Alex’s personal life- it is sad enough that a family is dissolving- stick to sports.—
I agree with this… unless other players are going to be fair game as well. Does everyone here realize that virtually EVERY MLB player cheat on their wives? Yes, ARod is going to get more publicity. But the idea that ARod cheating is a surprise is ridiculous. For example, I would bet a years salary that Manny Ramirez has cheated many many more times than ARod. But who cares???? Why do we??
Maybe its time to move Alex into the 3 spot. How man times are we gonna watch him lead off an inning and hit a solo shot because nobody can get on base in front of him?
Yankees should offer Sabathia 5 years $120M with a team option for the 6th year for $25 making it a possible 6 year deal worth 145M
Robertson’s fastball looks pretty straight and hittable. He really needs to locate it well and use his plus curveball to keep the hitters off balance. It is too early to say if he will be very succesful in the majors.
Give up, Yankee fans. Get negative and stay there! Give up on your team! Good work, kids!
And, as always, Patrick is wrong. Incorrect about Mussina, and incorrect ingeneral.
Holla at your boy!
can we score some more runs?
Show me some signs of life Yankees offense…
It is unfortunate that Joba’s immaturity most likely cost them this game. He has to learn how to keep his head in the game and listen to Molina when he calls a pitch and stop shaking him off!!! Joba completely lost it in the 5th and it was pathetic to see him crumble like that on the mound. It was 1st and 3rd and he has to try and limit the damage and he could not get it out of his head that he had 2 guys on and then did not get the call from the umpire and then completely lost it. Girardi needs to talk to him about not letting his emotions get the best of him and to listen to his catcher. His immaturity cost them so far in this game and he should not let it happen again. That will stop him from getting to be an even better pitcher when he stops being so immature. When he doesn’t get a strike called he needs to just move on to the next pitch and stop letting it get to him so that he walks the guy or throws a hittable pitch.
If Jeter holds the ball, they don’t score that inning.
Hard to blame Robertson for that.
Here’s the way I see it. The veterans have had all season to play and give this team a chance to win and they have stunk.
So, its time to play the young guys and see who can play and who can’t so they don’t do into an off-season with false reads on the young players.
For the vets that don’t like it? Go to Cashman, waive your no trade, and he will find a home for you.
I’m glad Girardi is using guys like Robertson, Ramirez, Gardner, and Veras in high leverage situations. Might as well find out what you have got with them.
“His current marital situation could affect his play. That makes it something that should be pondered by fans IMO.”
Well, it doesn’t appear to have affected his play, so why is it being dicussed then?
Right now by far Joba’s biggest issue is pitching on a team that can’t score any runs. When the umpire squeezes you all night and players get to swing at pitches and miss and get walks out of them and you still manage to put together a quality start, you should not be in danger of loosing the game.
Yankees will win only 2 out of a nine game homestand. If that doesn’t tell you the current sad state of this team, I don’t know what will.
Yeah losing 5 games in a row doesn’t say much about the team does it.
Oh sorry, that was the Red Sox.
I would be surprised if Jeter retired at the end of the season.
He can’t cut it.
Plus he has all his tax evasion problems.
I wish we could trade him, but we don’t need another bag of balls.
“Why is that an earned run against Robertson?”
Cuz Lugo reached on a hit. He got to 2nd on the error. If you play the inning thru without the error, the run still scores.
People would talk if it was Madonna and Brett Gardner. She’s married too.
hahaha an “oops” hit
We have the A-rod curse.. Get him out of this town..
run a rod
And there are other players who ARE playing badly on the field, so why aren’t their personal lives being dissected ad nauseum as a reason for their poor play?
Ughh, this guys K zone is awful
Watch them leave 2 or 3 men on base this inning. They have become so predictable.
If Jeter holds the ball, they don’t score that inning.
Even from 1st, Lugo could have stopped at 3rd and ordered dinner on that doyble by Cash and he still would have scored.
part of me prays he takes 2B
doyble = double
doyble = double
“Does everyone here realize that virtually EVERY MLB player cheat on their wives?”
Absolutely. I don’t think that anyone is surprised that A-Rod cheats. However, how many wives divorce their cheating baseball playing husbands? Not many. Remember when George Brett got caught cheating? His wife stuck by him. I expected Cynthia to hang in there a bit longer since A-Rod had all that money coming to him. But I guess she’d had enough. Good for her.
Yet another crappy call.
This umpire is such a prick. It is not even funny.
This is the big at bat in the inning.
Joba gave up 3 runs. If that’s going to cost them the game, that’s on the offense, not Joba.
Young players have to learn. It takes time to be successful ML players. This team has had more veteran players who have disappointed this year than young players.
Jeff,
Your “great plays” that you are attributing to Jeter are routine plays. I mean, come on, those aren’t tough plays.
Can’t cover the fact that he has been awful for the last two months.
I sure as hell hope he is hurt. If he isn’t, he’s in decay.
If you don’t think so, you aren’t watching the games.
They cannot center him! This is maddening!
WTF is up with this strike zone..it’s like the twilight zone
“Well, it doesn’t appear to have affected his play, so why is it being dicussed then?”
You are basing that on what, one game? She just announced today that she’s filing tomorrow. Once the nasty stuff gets going, let’s see how he does at the plate then.
Figures, AGAIN, they are swinging for the fences with the tying run up and fly out weakly. Good job yankees once again!
i dont know why a-rod wasnt going on the first pitch!!!
Let’s face it with Joba. He has had trouble giving them real length just about every start. Is every umpire squeezing him?
He did still pitch pretty well tonight,as he has regularly, but the length is something that needs work.
“His wife stuck by him. I expected Cynthia to hang in there a bit longer since A-Rod had all that money coming to him. But I guess she’d had enough. Good for her”
She’s in for half the $300M. Good for her indeed.
Can Abreu and Giambi be anymore useless right now? They have not done a thing recently. I really hope that Cashman doesn’t not bring them back next year. it is time to move on.
i like how that zone thingy always agrees with the umps.
Laura
As Yogi would say, it ain’t over till it’s over. They may end up divorced but filing a divorce and getting a divorce are 2 different things.
A-Rod has the most heart on this team. Who thought we’d be saying that? He’s the only one that looks like he cares out there. He’s angry when he misses a pitch and flies out. He’s upset with himself if he makes an error. He fights at the plate and puts up good AB’s all the time. If the guys on this team cared half as much as A-Rod, they’d be in first place. A-Rod is the team, not Jeter any more.
Forget any more Sabathia talk. He’s going to be a Brewer, so let’s see if he’s still an ace in the NL. Maybe we should be looking into trading for lefty Erik Bedard, who might be available now, and has a reasonable contract.
Again, no, she is not in for half…there is a pre-nup that specifies she gets fixed payments based on the length of the marriage and the amount of kids.
Get a clue before you post, people.
Captains corner,
You have to be kidding me that you think Joba cost them this game with his “immaturity”. He turned in a quality start tonight.
It’s all on the offense. If we don’t throw a shutout, we don’t win.
A-Rod is one of the best at stealing bases when needed in the league, yet he is now at first and Wakefield is out of the game. I understand the SS is positioned closer to 2nd for the shift with Giambi, but there is no way that Cash is throwing out A-Rod with a knuckleball coming. Now Boston has the double play still in tact and Posada is hitting from the right side. A perfect recipe for a 6-4-3.
SJ,
You don’t think Lugo would have scored from first on that Cash double? That ball was rolling around for a bit. Even if he didn’t, the whole inning could have changed with runners on second and third. My point is we don’t know if Jeter’s throw cost them a run or not.
“Can’t cover the fact that he has been awful for the last two months.
I sure as hell hope he is hurt. If he isn’t, he’s in decay.
If you don’t think so, you aren’t watching the games.”
He is – he was mashing until he was hit on the hand, and has sucked since. I don’t think it’s a coincidence. Of course, DLing him for Gonzalez wouldn’t really accomplish much.
“Its why I have said all year its a bad mix of players. Too many guys who are just thinking about their own numbers and not doing what’s best for the team.”
sj-
on long, i really was wondering what his job is on this team. i really can’t disagree with what you’re saying about the team. my thoughts are pretty close to yours, but what to do about it is where we differ.
i think the coaches are just as bad a mix as the players. it may sound harsh, but since as you say he really doesn’t affect much anyway, i’d fire long to let others know that things aren’t going to be fun and games when the team is underachieving.
i’d like to see hank and hal( who i don’t like either) read the riot act to cashman . the bad mix is at least partly on him. he’s had an influence for too long and full control for long enough to have put a better team on the field.
even if no one person is the one that stands out as the problem and it seems unfair to single someone out, when heads start rolling it gets other people’s attention.
right or wrong , that’s what i’d do because to do nothing endorses the going through the motions that we both see.
and girardi shouldn’t immune to firing. this is the yankees. mattingly is still out there.
Man, Jeter is hitting only .282 – the worse season in his career.
next year he’ll probably hit .260 – he’s getting to be as decrepit as McCain.
And you’re assuming it hasn’t been going on for some time, based on what the fact the Post and Daily News just decided less than a week ago that we needed to know?
You don’t just throw a hissy fit and suddenly throw your marriage in.
If Jorge goes the other way, you don’t really close the hole, though. And he looked absolutely fooled by Wakefield all day.
So I guess I have to disagree with you here, Joe.
No idea why a-rod didn’t steal on wakefield =\
Come on YANKEES
Good work, board. Throw Joba and Giambi off of the cliff. You people are fair-weather fans.
Based on what Joe Morgan says the strike zone is what is on the outside of the gold box. I didn’t know it worked that way.
Yeah SADA
Wow, timely hitting by Posada.
pinch run for Po ?
Outta boy Jorge!
Jorge comes through!
Robby, let’s forget all about the 1st half, and give us a two-run gapper.
Finally some contact hitting and a hit and run. Let’s go Yankees!
the yanks are not making any huge trades it would not make sense..
they may tinker around the margins.
cano please
We need the rally monkey to help us
http://buzztowncenter.org/files/u2/CrazyMonkey.jpg
Cano needs a big hit for a change.
lets see how bad cano can F this up.
Should be 4-3 =\
ROBI !!!!
Tie GAME…Called it baby….Cano triple 1 out
THAT’S WHAT I’M TALKING ABOUT!
Thanks
Joba mania!!!
Well nevermind, doesn’t matter anymore thanks to Robbie.
Beautiful piece of hitting by Robbie Cano. Absolutely beautiful. There’s the $30 million man!
I now welcome all criticism and insults.
Nice Robbie!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah Baby!
ROBBIE!!!
I will proceed to eat my last words. Good hit by Cano
YES!! ROBBIE!!
YES! Joe Morgan Suck on that! Talk about how smart Francona is now. He should never have taken Wakefield out! Haha
as i turned to my girlfriend and said “double play”…
ahem ahem…
All the defeatists, enjoy the moment
Cano dontcha know!
What kind of relay throw was that CoCo ????? Sink or swim Yankees…
“Remember when George Brett got caught cheating?”
Pine Tar Game!
God, I STILL hate George Brett….
I will proceed to eat my words. Good hit by Cano
Alright Robbie! Cereal man has a heck of an arm.
Well Ron-You called it. Maybe Girardi needs to get thrown out of more games to spark this team.
“You don’t think Lugo would have scored from first on that Cash double? ”
If Lugo is on first base instead of second good chance that Robertson pitches to Cash a different way.
You can’t just assume that Cash still hits a double if Lugo is on first.
I know that’s the way the official scoring goes but its a huge difference in a 3-2 game pitching with a man on first versus a man on second, especially with a rookie pitcher on the mound. Who knows, a rookie pitcher may have gotten overly concerned with the runner on second stealing the pitch sign.
You can’t just say Cash still hits a double.
Your right Stuart. The Yankees arent making any big trades. Maybe like a Fuentes, who would be a big help for us, but not a “Big” trade. Were gonna wait for Sabathia.
He touched the bag. Barely, but he caught it. Awkward looking steps by Jorge.
C’mon Melky!
Fair weather Cano fans, also. Great board!
Well actually maybe people do, lol. I guess I dont know that for sure, just because I wouldn’t do that, doesn’t mean other people wouldn’t. Especially if they were feeling vindictive or like they’d had enough or whatever.
Anyway I really objected to it because I was sick of reading about it on here. Especially during a game.
Bad move by Tito pulling Wakefield. That straight fastball must look like a grapefruit after those knucklers.
Go Yanks.
OK, how many times are they going to attempt to tag third and see if it sticks?
Hooray for Robbie, BTW.
Come on, Melky! I’ll take a sac fly.
When Cano is right it’s a beautiful sight to behold.
Melky-get your boy home
Melky, we want at least a fly ball.
Robinson Can 2-2 with 2 HUGE hits after Girardi gets thrown out
Crap. Was he out?
“Let’s face it with Joba. He has had trouble giving them real length just about every start. Is every umpire squeezing him?
He did still pitch pretty well tonight,as he has regularly, but the length is something that needs work.”
Apparently, you didn’t actually WATCH the game. He had one bad inning, 40+ pitches. Other than that, VERY effective.
Morgan get your Sox glasses off – they how Posada hit the bag and Joe comments that ‘Apparantley he touched the bag’ – what a joke ESPN has become
Now you can all post about how Cano shouldn’t have broke for the plate.
Why did Meacham send him?
And yet Melky cannot push a run in…
Come on, Jose.
That was too bad, Robbie.
Freakin Melky! Infield in. Hit a grounder that is tailor made for a play at the plate.
Actually Youselis, I am a huge Cano fan. Why dont you find your own board and stop crying like your boy Youseless
You can’t let Molina hit here. Please, I want Betemit. Actually use Moeller for a change!
I think it might seem like there was a lot of fair weather Cano fans, but I think in their hearts they all knew he would start hitting.
On that last play can’t we just barrel over Varitek once? He loves to block the plate, can’t they make him pay at all?
Why he did not slide with his leg or bulldoze him?
crud
There you go guys. Melky at his finest. He’s killing us at the plate.
Did Robbie go on his own, or was he sent? I guess I didn’t notice.
cano should have knocked him over.
That throw by Crisp was beyond atrocious…I mean, my God, he threw it STRAIGHT INTO THE GROUND!
these guys do not do it anymore but on that play you need to run over cash and pummel him..
sh-t.. now we bring in Krazy in a tie game………
damn….
Melky will be a hero.
Look at Youkalis trying to get the cheap out on Posada over at third…I cant stand this guy
What Jeter needs to ditch the new lady friend. He looks like hes barely there when hes playing.
Jerome from Manhattan is going to be pissed off tonight.
Why is Molina hitting? Seriously, what is the point of this?
No issue with Cano going home on a Baltimore chop….Does anyone still call it that anymore ???
Laura: Meachem sends everyone. I’m not a huge fan of his, but anything close in a tie game, you have to try.
Cmon Jose hit a double! You can do it!!
“On that last play can’t we just barrel over Varitek once?”
You want Cano to run into the Sox dugout just to barrel over Varitek?
This strike zone is killing us
There’s another BS strike call.
Cash did a good job blocking the plate there. Nothing Cano could do. A flyball would have been nice but, at least they tied the game.
Morgan get your Sox glasses off – they how Posada hit the bag and Joe comments that ‘Apparantley he touched the bag’ – what a joke ESPN has become
Agreed, just like earlier when he said Joba might end up a number 2 or 3 starter if he was lucky…Morgan and Miller are way past their primes and need to hit the bricks
A molina double would be nice
Cano is slow.
“Did Robbie go on his own, or was he sent? I guess I didn’t notice.”
He was going on contact. That’s the play. It had nothing to do with Meacham sending him or Cano even deciding to go or not.
With a man on third and 1 out you make the decision before hand – usually they go on contact.
How did he still almost get out on that?
Ooh…that was close.
What is up with team Scurtis? Why are they making everything so freakin public? Time for them to take a page out of the K-Fed book and just be quiet and do what they need to do. Please don’t be the bitter Christie Brinkley type who’s more worried about letting the world know what happened then the affect it will have on the kids.
ok, tie game and it’s Edwar time!
We have the better bullpen…. this game is ours to lose….
farns or veras?
farns or veras?
Why was Molina hitting there?
Honestly, he’s the hitting equivalent of Farnsworth for Girardi and his staff.
Melky’s horrible AB was a huge momentum killer when we could have gone ahead. You HAVE TO score that run in that spot. He didn’t even try to elevate it, and with the infield in batting right handed, what do you expect him to do? You had to pinch hit for him there.
I did watch the game. Did I miss something
or do all the innings not count equally? If you give up 5 runs in one inning and pitch 6 other scoreless innings, you didn’t pitch well.
Now, as I said, length has been a problem for him. I’m not sorry he’s in the rotation, I haven’t argued that he hasn’t pitched very well the innings he has pitched.
“You can’t just assume that Cash still hits a double if Lugo is on first.”
CB, I agree with you, but SJ was saying that the Sox don’t score there if Jeter doesn’t make the error. By your logic, you can’t assume that either. Maybe Robertson gets pre-occupied by Lugo at first and Cash homers. Or maybe he gets a DP ball. Or maybe he still hits the double. Saying the run would not have scored if Jeter held the ball there isn’t really based on anything factual if you assume everything in the inning would have changed.
I’d like to think I’ve been one of the more vocal Cano supporters over the last couple of weeks; my criticisms are more pointed towards players like Abreu and Jeter, and the fact that many of the Yankees’ most consistent performers (Wang, Damon, Matsui) have or are spending time on the DL.
Nobody on either side seems to be very happy with the umps right now…
I still can’t get over the fact that the umpire didn’t call Coco Crisp out on that check swing… #*&@*(#&@(*#&@*(#
Way to go Molina. Had we gone up 5-4 that inning, we would have won the game based on the statistic we are 36-1 if leading after 6 innings!!
Who are you going to have bat instead of Molina? Moller? Betemit or Christian? Those are your choices.
Why is Moeller still a Yankee if you are not going to PH for Molina in a spot like that?
Thats what I figured, CB. It was more a rhetorical question for those who somehow seemed to think that some kind of mistake by Meachem was made there.
Anyone else get choked up with the ASG commercial? The song is just perfect
Betemit is on fire right now. He’s hitting liners to every part of the field. I really wanted him to hit in that spot.
The stache will win it on a huge hit in this game!
Hands on the rails everybody
Nice of Cano to once again not to show any hustle on the play at the plate. I am sick and tired of him dogging every play. He didn’t get a lead off of 3rd, didn’t run hard to the plate, didn’t slide into the plate. He is such a bum and the Yanks allow it to happen. I am surprised that Arod doesnt want to ring his neck. Arod hustles on every single play and it must be upsetting to never see him do it. Just disgusting.
Gawd, let’s hope they don’t hit it to Jeter.
Who wants to bet that Farnsy lets the first guy he faces get on?
Okay, he was on fire. Apparently he’s been worse in July than I thought.
Him lefty is still better than Molina.
I hope Farns gives Youkilis a zinger right between the numbers.
“Melky’s horrible AB was a huge momentum killer when we could have gone ahead. You HAVE TO score that run in that spot”
If it weren’t for bad AB’s, the Yanks would be fighting not to get swept. They happen, especially at the bottom of batting orders.
I honestly think Laz Diaz hates the Yankees. He is an awful ump for us
When you have Kerwin Danley and Laz Diaz on one crew, its a bad crew.
Both guys are routinely voted by the players among the worst umpires in the game.
I can’t believe MLB has them on the same crew this year. Even more amazing they are assigned this series.
Farnsworth? Oh, no.
“I did watch the game. Did I miss something
or do all the innings not count equally? If you give up 5 runs in one inning and pitch 6 other scoreless innings, you didn’t pitch well.
Now, as I said, length has been a problem for him. I’m not sorry he’s in the rotation, I haven’t argued that he hasn’t pitched very well the innings he has pitched.”
You won’t find a pitcher that can pitch around bloop singles and blown calls by the umpires every time. 5 amazing innings and one bad one (with two close/blown calls). I don’t think you can whine about that.
Pete, I thought you had a lot of newspaper work to do?
I am completely sick to my stomach right now.. why do we have faith in this hick.
Wow, so I’m just a little nervous here.
Brandon (Jeter GIDP: 12) (Johan Santana HR count: 13 and a SP)
July 6th, 2008 at 10:30 pm
Jerome from Manhattan is going to be pissed off tonight.
I LAUGHED MY A$$ OFF AT THAT BRANDON !!!!
I CAN’T BELIEVE IT’S NOT JUST ME LISTENING TO T PAIGE AND MOOSE AT 4AM….
HAH WELL DONE!!
I LOVE WHENEVER THAT PSYCHO CALLS!@
So i’m not alone after all lol…wow.
good catch captain.
I’m not even worried about Krazy Kyle. He’s in one of his grooves right now.
Wow, that’s shocking. Kyle usually likes to let the first guy get on.
“Nice of Cano to once again not to show any hustle on the play at the plate. I am sick and tired of him dogging every play. He didn’t get a lead off of 3rd, didn’t run hard to the plate, didn’t slide into the plate. He is such a bum and the Yanks allow it to happen. I am surprised that Arod doesnt want to ring his neck. Arod hustles on every single play and it must be upsetting to never see him do it. Just disgusting.”
You, sir, are an idiot.
You were wrong Laura Farns did pretty good
Farns is doing this to honor Girardi.
If Giambi isnt in the HR derby its a disgrace…
House that ruth built, his nickname is Bambino, Giambis nickname was named after him with Giambino, and he has the amount of HRs and HE WANTS to do it. Not to mention its at Yankee Stadium
strikes crazy. Strikes!
If anyone is interested, I have been able to vote for Giambi WELL over 25 times so far at mlb.com
I’m wondering if there isn’t a limit like there was with the starters’ ballot. Just sayin’….
Vote for the ’stache!
CC to the Brew crew is official. Thank goodness we aren’t giving anything up for him. And thank goodness we don’t have to put up with the Red Sox acting like they want him to force our hand at the deadline.
Hope you’re right, Ron.
“that might have been pretty interesting at fenway…”
aaaarrrrrghhhh.
MUTE!
I hate YOucl nail the dude in the head..
With all the Jeter bashing tonight, I predict Jeter will be a major factor in the decisive run when the Yankees win tonight.
You don’t take Molina out of this game. He shuts down the running game.
That’s more important than offense in a tie game at home.
1 more stop on this Krazy train….
OH GOD I CAN’T WATCH
I was thinking that I wanted crazy Kyle to hit Youkilis too. I would love to see that charge.
Get rid of Gammons already. I don’t want to hear about his love for Boston anymore.
I hope Kyle hits Pukelis, he charges the mound and then Kyle beats him to a pulp.
How many Joe Morgan highlights do we have to see on Sunday night baseball. Our Reds team was the greatest in the history of sports. We know Joe.
Youkilis is so ugly.
Cant PH for Molina – not with Ellsbury and Pedroia able to swipe a bag late in the game.
Nice job by Farnsworth against the 3 best hitters, with Ortiz and Ramirez out.
Yeaaaaaa hhahahaaha Where you now Youkilis?
Like I said, what a bum rap that poor Farnsworth has gotten. Seriously, though, these last 2 day are about as good as I’ve ever seen him against Boston.
WOW.
The constant criticism of Kyle is unwarranted. He has been lights out the last few outings. He did not blow a game in a long time. In fact, of that 36-1 record, the only blow up was by Mo which is human. Get off his back
Yeah, Kyle! Big spot to mow down some Sawx.
http://www.jetsdaily.com
We hold this Farns to be self-evident!
Wow. I should always remember to trust in Kyle Farnsworth.
I literally did not watch the last two pitches
Nice job by Kyle.
You can criticize Girardi for a lot of things. His faith in Farnsworth is not one of them.
What did I tell you?
Farnsworth is in a groove.
Unfortunately, it’s outings like this that have Girardi sending him out the day after he struggles.
Though, honestly, he’s been much better this year than he ever was under Torre. His ERA’s down to a very respectable 3.69.
I have to give Farns. his props, he has been really good recently.
What is this strange feeling?? Ah yes, it’s the feeling of being afraid that your closer is going to blow the game in the 9th. It’s been so long.
This is obviously tongue in cheek, but I am concerned that if the game stays tied then Mo will have trouble getting us to the 10th.
Kyle, you just made my night by K’ing Youk.
I have to say, this bullpen has been great, and I think Girardi has done a great job of getting the most out of it.
Gardner bunt for base hit?
espn talking about mike lowell is really necissary….Thank god we all got to hear about how great his hands are..which is just about as usefull about how we got the pleasure of hearing Gammons talk about how he wants to bang pedrioa earlier in the game
Gammons is making up for all those years of suffering…..Farns is a keeper, at least for tonight that is…..
Krazy Kyle comes through. We need to win this damn game
When Farnsworth has it, he has it
Farns is doing a great job this year. I don’t understand all the hate. He is a 7th or 8th inning reliever. Quick name 2 or 3 better in MLB at that role. There are not many.
Bandwagon Farnsy Fan here !
When he’s on he is fun to watch. I still wanted to see him beat down Youklis. He couldn’t make him any uglier.
Jeter can steal whatever he wants from Yankee Stadium, he deserves it
Joe Morgan thinks that Diaz has done a good job. Enough said.
Pete, you are a riot.
It is really hilarious reading some of the whining by the kids, like Joe Morgan’s highlight etc.,. Not a bad thing. Better than whining about Yanks losing before they really lost or WON
If Gardner can get to first base, he can make thing happen.
Is Joe Morgan blind? Wow. “There has been a lot of disagreement with Laz Diaz but K-Zone shows he’s been spot on.”
Is he watching the same game we are?
Too bad that Rivera has to stay in the pen for the rest of the game. He’s a pretty good pitcher I hear.
But unfortunately he doesn’t know how to pitch in tie games (according to the statistical analysis of the author of this blog, at least) so now we’ll have to bring in a lesser pitcher.
I just threw up on the ice cream I was eating. Diaz is doing a good job. Unreal!
Love watching Gardner battle. It’s as if Damon never left. I hope some of the other Yankees are watching this at-bat right now.
UPDATE, 10:42 p.m.: Now Krazy Kyle has retired the side in order. Yet another sign of impending victory. Gardner gets on, steals second, scores when Jeter shows his captain clutchiness. Either that or A-Rod goes Kabbalah! again.
lol..goes Kabbalah!
Who pitches the 9th? I hope it’s not Mo in a tie.
how is that foul?
they keep on talking about our pen needs help that jsut shows these experts are clueless..
dammit ..
Just killed the moment.
Uh, is it just me or did Lowell touch that ball in fair territory? It looked like it tipped off his glove.
ESPN has the worst camera angles…Who knew, stole a hit, stole an at bat
Nice battle by Gardner.
I have a question, if the Yankees win this game, do only the Red Sox get a loss, or the umpiring crew and the Red Sox?
You know there is a better camera angle than what they showed us on that foul ball.
Is Laz short for Lazy or Lazrus?
I am sorry, but working the count then striking out, does us little good. This dude can’t hit and that is going to be a problem.
I have to say that at this point posters sound retarded when they do their fear of Farnsworth posts.
It really makes you look daft.
If we dont re sign anyone that is a FA, will we still be the hated team even though our payroll isnt the highest?
That ball hit an inch in fall territory 20 feet behind the bag. That’s how it was fall. Give me a break.
If no lead, give me Edwar in the 9th.
Oh great Mo in a tied game..You know what that means..
im still waiting for an explanation.
gardners ball seemed to be fair to me..???
Gammons is straight up dumb.. sry buddy but what the heal did u just say?
Time for Abreu to get a hit. Feels like he’s been 0 for 20!
Why do these Black umps want to side with the Sox over us? We have 1 and a half more Black players than the Sox. Hawkins and half of Jeter vs. none from the red sox.
You would think they would side with us
You know it’s going to be Mo in a tie game.
I mean, how else can it possibly end?
19 replays of Posada touching third. Two of the fall ball. It’s obvious folks. The truck from NESPN didn’t want to show it anymore.
CaptainsCorner,
how can you say ARod hustles on every play? I have pointed out to my son multiple times this year where ARod dogged it out of the box on what he thought were HRs that were not. Now I agree that Cano didnt appear to be running full speed, and I will never understand why a decent sized guy, like Cano, doesnt bowl the catcher over when he has the plate blocked like that. But Arod is not the example of all out effort all the time.
“im still waiting for an explanation.
gardners ball seemed to be fair to me..???”
It landed on the wrong side of the baseline to be fair. That splain it for you?
come on Bobby
From the Camera angle ESPN gave us during the replays, you couldnt tell if it was fair, but on the initial play it looked as though Lowell tipped it which would be why it got the backspin when it hit the ground
Dive not necessary Ellsbury.
that racist comment was just wrong
WHy Rivera? He cant pitch in tie games.
tough luck…..
It’s going to be A-Rod hitting a walk-off home run off Papelbon. It’s just the way it has to be.
Like I said the stache wins it in the 9th.
…and Ellsbury channels Jim Rice with the completely unnecessary dive!
JEter looks overmatched.
It’s sad.
But end of the line comes for everyone, no matter how great.
I know the numbers aren’t great, and that Rivera struggled yesterday and threw a lot of pitches. But I always have faith in Mo.
Let Farnsworth stay in one more inning. This game probably going extra innings unless we see a walk off home by A-Rod!!
“19 replays of Posada touching third. Two of the fall ball. It’s obvious folks. The truck from NESPN didn’t want to show it anymore.”
I seriously lol’ed at that. Classic. The sad part is it’s probably true. Just listen to how upset Morgan and Miller sounded on Cano’s triple.
You are correct, BA. Even his biggest fan, Michael Kay, has knocked him on occasion for it.
Coco is black, or at least he tries to be
the stache might win it, but only if no one is on, he no longer hits with RISP. I voted multiple times for Giambi to make the all star game, but please Cash, do not offer him a contract next year. He is fool’s gold.
Mo scares me in this position
Mo PLEASE pretend that you are pitching in a save situation.
Mo Mows down the Sux, Yankees win in bottom of 9th. All is well in Gotham. Story at 1130pm !
Let’s see if Mo can pitch like it’s a save situation (excluding yesterday)
Pray.
Mo, please don’t break my heart.
And here we go
They might as well play the outfield shallow with Mo pitching. It’s ridiculous how many BS bloops they get to drop in against him.
nothing but soft liners. lol
Here we go again. Mo can’t pitch a tie game, they just hit a single off the first pitch!
Oh no! Rivera gave up a bloop single to shallow left-center! He can’t pitch in tie games! GET HIM OUT OF THERE!!!
francona was right about casey…
(for those who remember what he said earlier in the game)
damn.
crap – man on 2nd now, 1 out
come on Mo..
Why Rivera? Trying to boost his confidence, since he was lucky. The red Sox will move the runner over by steal or bunt and get a bloop hit to win the game.
Don Vito A. Bellamo
July 6th, 2008 at 10:55 pm
that racist comment was just wrong
If you thought my comment was racist, then you dont know what racist is.
i love how crisp puts a burst of speed at the end
And it starts already…What the F***. Melky didn’t get a jump on that ball it could of been caught.
Why is Sean Casey so insanely hot?
Dino-Bites drops the bunt…way to go, Nancy !
the “all-star” is coming up. scary
Honestly, what scares me more than anything in this game, is that I suspect some of you are actually serious about thinking Mo for some reason can’t pitch in tie games. Please tell me I’m wrong?
OH YES they are pinch hitting Varitek. What a gift.
…there it is. I was about to ask about Varitek’s All-Star selection. No talk about it after mentioning his atrocious offensive stats? No talk about how it seems a little odd?
crawl back under your rock, dude
There’s a representative AB.
NOOOOOOO manny
Come on Mo one more out and we get A-Rod, Giambi, and Posada next half.
Walk him please
hit Manny again, pitch to the next scrub.
Um, walk him?
WALK MANNY!!!
They should walk Manny.
I can’t really see a reason NOT to walk him here.
Walk Manny in this situation and take your shot with Ellsbury.
Well now it’s sort of like a save situation, so Mo should be able to get his mind right for Manny.
Yanks BETTER walk Manny!! Use your brains here…
I walk Manny here. Don’t think the Yankees will, but he’s not the guy I want beating me.
Mo sallow your pride and walk Manny please
If there are any rosery beeds please have them out now.
Pitch to Manny.
Jon,
It’s not statistical analysis. Mo didn’t give up a run in a save situation until yesterday. He had given up a number of runs in tie games. It’s very simple.
Intentional Walk please
He hit Manny! What the hell is Miller talking about?
He’s been struggling. I think they pitch to him.
Watch Manny hit a double off Mo. Yankees lose again
HIT Manny!
Walk Ramirez please
are u kidding me.. we are not walking this dude
Well, they are going after him.
I don’t like this at all.
Dont get my hopes up Mo. You better K him now that your 0-2
I like eating my words tonight.
YES!
Oh Thank God !
Manny watches three blow by!!!!!! WOW
Hahahahahahahahahaha And we all wanted them to walk him. Thanks Manny
Manny forgot he was at bat and not on deck.
Technically, was that really pinch-hitting?
Well, I guess they are smarter than me because I would have walked him.
Manny Being Manny – never swung. I’m going to go throw up now.
lol, 3 pitches, never got the bat off his shoulder. Manny being Manny.
He LOOKED at three straight strikes……haaaaa
…For real?
YES!
Enter Sandman, indeed!
ONLY 6 PITCHES
Why not just walk Manny?
Wow. Manny did someone put krazy glue on Manny shoulder before he came out to hit?
Manny’s probably not happy to come in on his day off. Good job Mo.
that’s what I’m talking about! my best v your best. (plus manny is still probably hurt and not 100% yet)
atleast Manny is Catholic.
Hated the strategy but who knew this would be a “Manny being Manny” moment?
How do you look at 3 straight strikes in that situation?
The Yankees have got to take advantage of that and win this game.
Now SHUT UP !
ML:
Mo is going to give up runs at a certain rate, correct? And they are going to come in certain situations, right? In order to be statistically significant, he would have to go about 100 innings of only allowing runs in tie games. It’s random. It’s amazing that people really believe that he’s a different pitcher in tie games.
Or you can strike Manny out on three pitches, that works too.
What Juevos by the Yankee interim manager to pitch to Manny and strike him out!! Let’s go Yankees!!
Not a lot of effort from Manny there. I guess he’s not himself with Ortiz being out for so long.
Wow, I was going to post that he had to walk Manny. As John Sterling would say: You just can’t predict baseball.
What in the hell was that all about ???? Manny looked surprised on each pitch..
That was, without question, the longest 6-pitch inning in baseball history.
Okajima now, with 2 of 3 batters LH, or Delcarmen for Arod first?
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! All you top notch managers.
I figured I’d have Mo figure it out himself seeing he’s the best closer in the game.
My only guess is Manny was sitting on a cutter because he just looked silly there.
Well, Don’t tell HOF Mo to walk Manny.
does manny actually care what’s going on??
does manny drive red sox fans crazy when he watches strike three right down the middle of the plate with a runner in scoring position?
i hope so.
Why do you want to walk Manny and put two guys on bases? If it is an away game and game is tied that is the time it makes sense. Any way, the coaching staff know what they are doing and Mo struck him out.
Right on Mo! That was two all-stars he got out! Boy Justin has the lowest avg of all catchers in the league. No doubt, he’s an all-star.
Great job by Mo there. I still would have walked Manny. As currently constructed, he’s the one Sox plyer I don’t want beating me. It’s a bad call by Girardi but it worked, so we move on. Time for A-Rod to come through.
Why is Mussina not in the Final vote thing? Or are no pitchers allowed?
Jon Miller is tanked – just said “New pitcher for the Yankees – Okajima”
Okajima eh?? Arod leads off with double is my call.
they should have walked Manny.. That was really stupid and they got lucky..
bad bad decision, I am consistent.. why would you give one of the best hitters of all time the chance to beat you????
Gut feeling, it is going to be a walk off home run by one of the three guys due up.
interesting strategy using oki here.
You know, Manny was probably protesting not being able to get 50 box seat tickets for the game 5 minutes before gametime.
I’ll never get the we have to wait to use our closer on the road for a save situation. Papelbon’s their best, so he should be used right now. Though I’m glad he’s not.
sink or swim time pat m.
Another BS call.
This is almost getting boring.
Laz Diaz is abysmal.
I love all the comments screaming to walk Manny, then Mo makes everyone look stupid. He was aware of the open base. He pitched to the corners.
He tagged that one. Right at Lowell. Ugh.
Arod hitting the ball had lately
“Why do you want to walk Manny and put two guys on bases?”
Oh, I don’t know. Maybe because Manny has killed Yankee pitching for the last umpteen years!
Jon,
Who’s the one doing the statistical analysis now?
It could be random, but it might not be. Closers have a history of performing worse in non save situations. Mo has usually been immune, but not lately.
I am not saying that I’m worried about Mo overall, but until he strings together a few good outings in tie games I think we have to be a bit wary in those situations.
Nice try Pete…can’t win them all.
Trick is to quit while you’re ahead
Oh my God. All three of those pitches were called balls when Joba AND Wakefield were throwing them. But because Mo calls them, they are strikes?
That’s just horrific. I’m happy, but that’s inexcusable.
We need Timlin right here.
Mekka lekka hai mekka hiney ho…I think I spelled that right. HEY GIAMBI!
please save us ’stache
Why do you want to walk Manny and put two guys on bases? If it is an away game and game is tied that is the time it makes sense. Any way, the coaching staff know what they are doing and Mo struck him out.
Right answer BBFan. But ya gotta love the top notch managers who know better here! I laughed my ass off at those posts. Actually trusted Mo would get it done pitching to him.
“does manny actually care what’s going on??”
does manny actually know what’s going on??
Came this far , they cannot give this away….Your right Randy I….
dont forget to do the manager ejections total pete
Stuart,
According to the graphic though, Manny has been in a bad slump.
“Why is Mussina not in the Final vote thing? Or are no pitchers allowed?”
Always have before. That’s how Okajima made it last year. AL team is very relief heavy to Mussina’s detriment, but you can’t really beef about the starting pitchers who made it ahead of him. Few starters better than him didn’t make it either.
Guess we’ll have to win it in extras
The ’stache is missing pitches he should drive. Meh.
C’mon Jorge!
Jesus only this team can make Oki look like Koufax
Jorge the real captain coming up with a big homerun right here
The Yanks really need to get Abreu and Giambi going again. They are really killing this team along with everyone else.
a double here by posada, justin to pinch run and then score the winning run.
Um what? You walk Manny to put two guys on because a base hit scores 1 run no whether there’s a guy on first or not. Odds are Manny isn’t scoring from first on a base hit anyway. It comes down to who has a better chance of getting a base hit: Jacoby Elsbury or Manny Ramirez.
We need to score a run here because we are horrible in extra inning games.
Mo go two?
Okajima is getting jobbed.
Or not.
That’s the exact same pitch.
You know your making bad calls when Yankees are complaining.
Stop taking his side Morgan
F— THE K-ZONE!!!
Joe, you can take K zone and shove it up your a##.
Let’s say Posada gets on. Who can pinch run for him? It has to be double or homer here.
Screw ESPN and their stupid K zone.
does morgan have an endorsement contract with k-zone??
I bringing back the crazy monkey..maybe it will help
http://buzztowncenter.org/files/u2/CrazyMonkey.jpg
do you use mo for two? i am worried with him for two innings especially in a tie game
Hell, Mo throw 6 pitches. Let Mo go three.
For someone who hates computers, Morgan really is in love with K-Zone.
how much anyone wanna bet Morgan adjusted that K-Zone
Manny CHOKING ON IT ! NICE !
There is nothing more unpleasant than an extra-inning Yankees-Red Sox game. Even in 2003 my stomach was just churning.
Damn
No, Morgan just loves Laz Diaz
Now we are in trouble Boston’s patience and speedy part of the lineup is coming up
I think Joe Morgan and Laz are getting married in California after the game.
When does Matsui come off the DL?
Delcarmen, Okajima, and Timlin have been horrible this season. The Boston pen just came off a terrible series in Tampa.
This series the offense has made them look like all stars.
It seems like it will take the Yanks another 5 innings to score a run. It is really frustrating how they can never put any hits together in an inning..no matter who they are facing.
I hate Neil Everett So much
here we go mo
gotta keep ellsbury off the bases
We had the heart of our lineup up and didn’t score. Not good.
Alex caught one in Foul Territory?
“I think Joe Morgan and Laz are getting married in California after the game.”
LMAO!
2 innings for Mo is really asking alot…
why can’t joe morgan speak?
How tall is Pedroia? 5′2″?
Morgan’s Diaz love is comical.
Mo gets squeezed in the same location where Okajima got a strike last inning.
I think Diaz is just a Red Sox fan. I can’t think of any other reason for it.
Pedroia is as tall as the ump when he’s crouched for the pitch
The K-zone was down below posada’s knees. It doesn’t mean anything. Morgan won’t give his opinion without seeing the k-zone first though. He’s too old. Mystical strike machine will show the way.
“why can’t joe morgan speak?”
Why can’t Joe Morgan think?
We caught the Leprachaun
I think if Mo can get Cano to the plate with the game tied good things are going to happen.
They don’t go to K zone when Mo’s pitches are called balls?
Tommorow is a off day so he can go two….
Screw it – let MO GO ANOTHER
Is this umpire and Morgan on Bostons pay roll?
Joe Morgan and Laz Diaz must be friends or something because Morgan has his head too far up his rear for anything else to make sense.
Wow. Ok we NEEEEED the run now.
Hell, let Mo go four!
who is maliano livela
fat giambi is 0- his last 13
Here comes Papelbum…
15 pitches,, maybe 3 innings if we need?
I think ALOT of people are on the Red Sox payroll, just under the table
We need to score here, but after Cano, it’s slim pickens.
I do not know much about the fear of Klye by many here, but I thought Jeter almost threw that ball away. Thank god, Giambi is tall
the only non sox ump is garcia in the ws vs san diego
Papelbon in. Will he go 2 innings? Who’s next for Yankees? Ramirez? Veras?
Nice economical pitching from Mo. Hope the Yankees can score in this inning.
16, my bad.
OMG! CLOSER ON THE ROAD IN A TIE-GAME!
Can someone tell me why Roberston got charged with and earned run?
ML: Not sure if you’re mocking statistical analysis or what. Of course statistical analysis should be done. My first comment was pointing out that Pete recently listed Mo’s stats in tie and non-tie games and claimed that it was evidence that he’s a different pitcher (and sarcastically calling it “statistical analysis”).
Anyway, here’s an example:
Damon’s OPS is .581 on turf, .896 on grass. Again, in a tiny sample size. Do you think he’s a different player on turf? No, it’s just random that he has hit better in the grass games.
I MIGHT buy the fact (with proper statistical evidence) that closers pitch worse in games where they have big leads are when their team is down by a lot. The reason is of course that they supposedly can’t get psyched up because the game’s not on the line. But not when it’s a tie game, the game is on the line, of course.
There is just no evidence whatsoever that he’s actually a worse pitcher in tie games. You can slice and dice statistics in many ways. Let’s take all the hitters and divide them into two groups – guys with names starting with A-M and N-Z.
You agree that no pitcher is not going to have the exact same stats against both groups, right? So every pitcher is going to pitch better against one of the groups than the other. And the pitchers aren’t going to have the same “gap” between the stats – some are going to be MUCH better against A-M than N-Z, and some are going to be much better against N-Z.
Now you must properly account for the differences in skill of the hitters in those groups, but there are going to be some VERY drastic splits in a few pitchers. Someone is going to have something like: A-M are 4 for 80 against him, and N-Z are 45 for 80.
Is that evidence for you that this pitcher can’t pitch against guys with names starting with N-Z?
Quite simply, correlation is not causation. It’s the biggest mistake that people make.
Who would you rather face with the game on the line? Manny Ramirez, one of the best hitters of his generation or a slumping rookie in Ellsbury? That’s why you walk Manny there.
The runner on first means very little. With Papelbon to close, you figure if the Sox score a run, they’ll most likely win.
Anyway, it’s over and done with and we escaped. Now time to win it!
Big weirdo is on the mound now.. He is kinda weird anyone agree?
With the people coming up to bat, after Cano, we need to go for small ball.
Papsmear
” they don’t go to K zone when Mo’s pitches are called balls?”
i was wondering the same thing.
somebody should lean into one of papelsmear’s inside pitches…
ok men, this isn’t complicated, two hits this inning with a sacrifice in the middle.
Papelbombs “mean” face is hilarious.
Clutch Cano
Cano is one damn good hitter
In and out of this game but apparently I am missing something, I NEED ALL OF YOUR HELP.
K-Zone is apparently the EXACT strike zone that each umpire uses.
I did not know this. When did it come into effect?
I always thought the strike zone were mere guidelines for umpires to use. Fascinating.
Joe Morgan knows more about baseball than all of us on this blog.
There’s a start!
Melky better bunt!
As I said before, we need a bunt now.
that was a horrible AB but dammit good hit Robi
If we don’t score this inning at least make Papelbon throw more than six pitches. Where are the Cano haters now!
God. Please let Melky bunt.
Here is your ballgame folks……BoSux…thank you for the victory….you SLUGS !
Okay, here we go!
Good job by Melky. He got the job done.
Oh man – Betemit cannot hit high heat
Okay, they saved him for this spot. I approve!
That’s why you don’t ph for molina until now, with the game on the line.
come on Betemit
Ugh. I can’t watch, my heart can’t stand any more games like this.
That was your pitch.. ahh
Come on WB!
Steal 3rd Cano!
Betemit has been hitting good lately.. Lee us hope he closes the deal.
Wow Don Vito, just stop talking
Betemit cannot hit fastballs!
Yeah, doubling up Gardner won’t be easy.
They screw up wilsons name all the time
IF we win, I see this as a turnaround.
how many different ways can we come up with to pronounce betemit
Brett, this would be beyond awesome.
No contact Betemit – bad call there
overmatched.
SOMAMAB****
Laz Diaz is probably shaking right now, if Gardner gets a hit here then all his hard work to make the Yankees lose goes down the drain.
Time to step up to the big stage, Gardy!
Who pitches next if needed? Veras or Edwar?
That was not what I was hoping for from Wilson.
Overmatched!
k zone that pitch!
Cold Blooded look? I would say its “I want to rape your child” look
Here is where Gardner can earn his stripes. May be too new to know that he is overmatched.
On the other hand, he has had good AB’s and been robbed many times… Maybe reversal of fortune?
JOhnny loves them sox.. he just got a hard on to palpebon stare
omg…the announcers have it soooo bad for papelbon.
COME ON BRETT!!
what a great story if the kid hits one in the gap….
does Papelbon use Preparation H to get his mouth like that ?
I’m so nervous..lol
Anyone know if Rusty Hardin is A-Rod’s attorney? The Rocket should give him a business card.
Wow, that wasnt a K Zone strike?
Hahahaha they used the K zone
This is a Damon-esque AB.
good battle here
Morgan has spoken. Do NOT question the Laz.
Yeah
GARDNERRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
YANKEES WIN! YANKEES WIN!
BRETT GARDNER HAS VEINS OF ICE!
BASE HIT YANKS WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GARDNER WITH THE GAME WINNER!
YES! YES! YES!
YES!! THE GOOD GUYS DO IT AGAIN!!!!
Boom goes the Gardy-mite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
BA….nice call !
The kid scraps
Melky is GONNNEEEE hahahaha
BRETT !!!!
it wasnt a gap shot but I LOVE it still
BRETTTTTTTTT!!!!!!!!!
Brett did it hahaha wooooooooo
Take a seat Paps
THE HITMAN!
Brett!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Johnny who?
goooooooooooooo thunder boys!!!!!!!!!
Guess it’s a good thing Gardner was called up!
BRETT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
oh i can sleep now….yeah baby
brett the hitman spark!!
GARDNER!!!!!!!!!!!
AWESOME AT BAT BY GARDNER!!!
heck of an AB by Gardner. Don’t know how he could concentrate with that sphincter mouth looking at him!
He better get a pie in his face during his postgame interview!
bet his wife is freaking out!!
Im liking this Gardner kid.
awesome!!!
great, gritty at bat. just what we needed.
Awww what a really nice moment for Gardner. Just what the doctor ordered. He really battled for that hit.
Morgan and Miller could sound less thrilled though.
Gardner with a clutch hit.
Pete, will you pick my lottery numbers?
Gammons going to say Ellsbury is better than you to Gardner in the interview
Gardner to speak with Gammons. Is that anyway to reward a game winner?
even if lugo fielded that cleanly cano woulda probably still scored.
I’m really liking this Gardner.
How nice to see Papelpoop defeated.
Good game. Yanks on their way back.
Are they waiting for Gammons to stop crying to do the post-game interview?
So much for him not being able to hit worth a lick.
Go-go Gardner! What a way to wind up the series.
Melky just lost his job boys. This kid is only doing great things from here
Hey Vito,
I tip my hat to you guys. You won a good one. Gardner looked good.
SO cool that Gardner got that moment! I wouldn’t be surprised if he starts hitting like a beast over the next couple of weeks now that he has a big hit under his belt.
Way to go, BG!
I am still not sold that there is a turnaround but, I will concede that this is the most passion, most competitive this team has been all season.
It is nice to see some excitement in the dugout and on the field.
Maybe Girardi needs to get more fired up more often.
SWIM!!!! ( how about that pat M)
great moment for gardner.
i counted 10 bounces on that ball before it left the infield.
now that’s an interesting skill to have.
RUDY! RUDY! RUDY!
not a pretty win, but a win nonetheless. Please string 6 or 8 more of these and we will be on the right track
On a scale 1-10, how much pain do you think Miller and Morgan experienced when they had to name Gardner player of the game? I would say 15.
Lugo is not long for this world I fear.
How much do you think Gammons hates having to interview the Yankee game winner. I love it.
look at that vein in his head..lol
No interview?
THANK GOD FOR ROBBIE CANO!
I was so wrong!! I’m so happy for Gardner and hope he turns out to be a keeper for the Yanks. Is this the start of something special for the Yankees, or is it too little too late, with not enough games left and being in the toughest division to make a run at a playoff spot?
Told you they would get the job done.
I have no idea how this season will end up, but that was a SWEET win.
Great at bat by Gardner. Eventually patience pays off. I love him already. Melky say goodbye to your position.
Wow Gammons not in good enough shape to interview Gardner?
Seeing-eye hit very well maybe the biggest hit of the season……Staying afloat for Tampa Bay…..
Why did we score that run?
Because Cano and Gardner were not swinging for the fences. We scratched out a run when all we had to do was scratch out a run.
Finally.
and look how that sac bunt paid off… hmmmm melky… no joe in the dugout at the time??
Randy I i counted 10 bounces on that ball before it left the infield.
now that’s an interesting skill to have.
That is how baseball turns it Karma. Think of all the outs Gardner has made and how hard he has hit the ball. He has been robbed at least 6 times since coming up.
The balance of the baseball scales, a weak hit ground ball wins the game. Go figure.
What a great sports day. Tour de France in the morning, Federer/Nadal all day and a walk off Yankee win with Joba pitching at night.
Doesn’t get much better in the middle of the summer. btw, if you haven’t seen that match, they are replaying it tomorrow night. It was epic.
Never in my life did I think we would win on FOX and ESPN in the same series. AMAZING
Gardner still won’t beat out Melky but he is a good 4th outfielder to have on the team.
That’s why you bunt in the 9th with Melky.
ESPN is so pissed they wont show Yanks-Red Sox highlights first
they go to Tennis? wtf
Yankee Trader read my tagline. I say it’s the start of something special!
I was wrong about Gardner too. How lucky can we be to have him as Damon’s replacement. Sweet win is right.
hugw win.. WOW, how improbable..
Gardner got his 1st lucky hit after quite a few unlucky outs..HUGE
HUGE HUGE..
young guys can play this game also…..
The split of the series is salvaged, possibly the season saved. Another nice no decision for Joba. Cano looks like he can hit again. All is right with the world. I almost forgot to mention the lights out job by the bullpen to keep the Yanks in the game. Mariano made Ramirez look silly
Tjat was Cora not Lugo, Miller has his head up his A**
LOL Melky lost his job because Brett won one game, I guess you’ve all forgotten how many games Melky has won for us. Nice hit for Gardner but I like when he strikes out because it semi-silences Gardner worshippers
My 10 year old son told me Robbie would hit a triple right before he did.
In the 10th I was hoping (not predicting) Gardner would get his chance to be the hero.
Awesome win!
A win going into theoff day.
ESPN is so pissed they wont show Yanks-Red Sox highlights first
they go to Tennis? wtf
When’s the last time you say Sunday Night Baseball not go immediately to highlights of the game? Amazing.
They cheated the kid on the interview. That blows.
No kidding. Plus you look like John Candy.
“Am I the only one depressed that the Brewers acquired Sabathia?”
No, b/c that means we are going all after Tex
I thought we were playing our makeup with Pittsburgh tomorrow. Am I a week off?
Great Day. Yankees win, a team that cant re sign Sabathia trades for him.
There’s always gotta be some person who turns a nice moment for one player, into a slam on another. Its a freaking team game!
very nice piece of hitting by Brett Gardner. those are exactly the type of at-bats this team needs. if this kid can show he can do it in the long-term (and he IS 3 for 22), we might have something.
remember starts like this with Joba. you’re going to be looking back at them 15 years now and saying “remember when…”
great win.
“nice hit for Gardner but I like when he strikes out because it semi-silences Gardner worshippers”
and you root for what team……?
We do well agianst Papelbon. Gardner put on a battle.
LOL Melky lost his job because Brett won one game, I guess you’ve all forgotten how many games Melky has won for us. Nice hit for Gardner but I like when he strikes out because it semi-silences Gardner worshippers”
Find Melkys game winners for me please
what a game, perhaps this is the tide turner. btw papebon always loses to us. he gave up the tying bloop single to jeter in 06, homerun to arod twice to tie games and now this
Gardner is clearly the better all around player for Center Field but this is a debate that doesn’t need to be had for another 2 or 3 weeks until Damon is back.
Melky better watch his back.
Brett Gardner is a BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Miller misnamed numerous people and made many many mistakes.. Is he drinking during the games???
Huge win.. again why do these morons talk about the Yankee pen, the pen is doing great for the last month +..
WOW…..Beat Tampa 2 and then they will start thinking… Pass on Ponson…….
Heard the last half inning on the radio. To Schulman’s credit he went crazy with the call at the end. What a great way to end the game. Good for the Rookie.
Makeup vs the Pirates is Thursday.
Oh and I bet you dont find Melky getting a game winner against the Red Sox, against arguably the best Closer in the majors right now, in his first week. Go ahead, go look. Not to mention, in a HUGE game for this team. Ill be waiting.
When Damon comes back, Gardner will be in there
HEY!
Where are all the doomsayers and Big Mouths who had us dead and buried.
Where are you now Chickenshyts?
Yeah, that’s what I thought.
Did anyone else notice that Poopoobomb was crying as he left the dugout? He was totally wiping tears out of those ugly eyes!!!
great games the last two nights. good for gardner. hopefully they can build on that momentum over the next week.
Cheer up geo–Wimbledon is more important to most of the sports world than a regular season Sox-Yankees game. we feel different, of course, but we’re a minority.
funny how all the doomsdayers and quitters are quiet after wins
It was a great win.
A very good team effort.
Lot of passion from Manager to the team.
You know what we are only down three in the loss column for WC. We are going to the playoff. Believe it.
I am -loving- Gardner’s plate discipline. Very good ABs, even with his 3/22. A good approach at the plate almost always pays off.
Wow, ESPN really showing their NY hate tonight. Tennis, then a Baseball Trade, before the Yankees-Sox game?
tonyb,
it was a great match, as a fed fan i was very dissapointed, the first two sets he played the big points terribly, great comeback fed just looked too tired near the very end, started hitting a TON of unforced errors,and wasn’t getting that first serve in, fatigue definitely set in
Tampa vs Royals before Yankees Sox ARE YOU KIDDING ME??????
sabathia will be a free agent in the offseason.. this is a rental or Milw. will sign Sabathia and let Sheets go after the season..
If the Yanks want Sabathia in the offseason they have the most $$$$$$$$$$$
“I thought we were playing our makeup with Pittsburgh tomorrow. Am I a week off?”
Makeup game is on Thursday mark
Gotta’ love what Brett Gardner has brought to this team. Just a gritty at-bat against Papelchoke and got the hit.
Mo was amazing. I was a little concerned with him coming off of 25 pitches yesterday, but he looked good out there and made Manny look like a pitcher, afraid to swing the bat.
My father works for the Richmond Braves and got me free tickets to all 4 of the Scranton Wilkes-Barre Yankees games about a month ago. I went to all the games, purely, to watch Brett Gardner and some of these new guys in the bullpen.
I sat in the front row for all 4 games and was 5 feet away from Garnder the entire time. So happy I went and saw this kid up close before he got called up.
I imagine he’ll pan out to be a .270 hitter. Good defender and a great base stealer. I’m excited if he is going to be clutch as well. Way to go Brett! Get Jeter to introduce you to Jessica Biel. You deserve it!
Um David Robertson for Setup, not to ruin your thunder, Gardner got a great hit, but Melky has had game winners before. I can easily recall his game winning homerun v. Sabathia where the Yankees won 1-0 earlier this year. That’s just off the top of my head, I’m sure there are more.
Don’t you think you can root for Brett and Melky?
Rebecca okay I’ll go with that but there’s no way you can explain why our highlights weren’t on next.
It’s an ESPN diss. They do it all the time.
Finally. Lets see if they show the interview
did you hear the OTHER ESPN announcer ( not Joe Morgan ) just say The Yankees Win as if he was SO not for that ? SCREW ESPN….like ALWAYS and FOREVER !
David Robertson for Setup – Vote for the ‘Stache’
Your comment that Canocabrera’s responded to, was just as stupid as the response you got.
When Brett kept on fouling off those pitches, I had a feeling something good was going to happen. Then he got that count leveled, and I thought, “okay, this is it, he’s going to show his magic.”
It was just…wow. What a great at-bat, what a great moment. And against Papelbon, no less. Just, fantastic, fantastic at-bat.
“Gardner is clearly the better all around player for Center Field but this is a debate that doesn’t need to be had for another 2 or 3 weeks until Damon is back.
Melky better watch his back.”
You might reconsider that statement when Gardner misses balls Melky gets to… but I’d love Gardner as the corner fielder after Abreu’s gone after the season’s over.
Come back to reality David Robertson
That was a top play?
ESPN is obsessed with the Rays.
Melky isn’t going anywhere. Gardner devotees are dreaming.
Oh so Melky hit the HR in the 1-0 game in the 9th inning DFox? And what place are the Indians in?
Bye bye Melkey hello Gardner enjoy pitburge or colorado Melkey goo YANKEES reflect the ray sting and put the red socks in the dryer 4 ever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Gardner reminds me of Nick Johnson the way he works the count and fouls off pitches.
Let us not start building Gardner’s plaque for the Hall of Fame. He still has a ways to go before he is even at Melky’s level.
This isn’t Baseball Tonight.
And Gammons still hasn’t stopped crying.
Very happy for Brett. More importantly we won!
Day off tomorrow, then bring on the Rays
The best thing Melky has done in the last like month was that bunt
Because most fans would like the team to succeed, rooting for both Melky AND Gardner to succeed because its the best thing for the team would seem like the most rational thing.
Apparently not.
Gardner is clearly the better all around player for Center Field
Interesting comment seeing that his arm isn’t touted as being great but his range is. You want a cannon at center.
Also, I think it is a HUGE stretch to even suggest Gardner is “clearly” anything but a minor leaguer trying to show everyone what he can do and see if he can do something on a sustained basis.
Doomsayers, quiters, chickenbleeps, come out, come out where ever yoou are!
So there was no Gardner interview after the game? That sucks
“Oh and I bet you dont find Melky getting a game winner against the Red Sox, against arguably the best Closer in the majors right now, in his first week.”
you’re right. i can guarantee you that Melky Cabrera will never be able to hit a game winner against Jon Papelbon in his first week ever again.
how could that Melky not do that when he came up? i mean, it was HIS fault he was rushed that season. HE MADE THEM BRING HIM UP.
what’s the age limit on this forum again?
I think ESPN delays Yankee highlights for the same reason news hours delay their hyped segments: keep as many viewers watching as long as possible.
Just business.
ESPN has just announced Baseball Tonight is cancelled tonight due to one of the on field reporters doing the Yankee Game just suddenly sick. They will replace it with the replay of the 2007 World Series
And Gammons still hasn’t stopped crying.
Thought the same thing! Hard to start with Yankee highlights when Gammons eyes are swollen shut.
“Oh so Melky hit the HR in the 1-0 game in the 9th inning DFox? And what place are the Indians in?”
You asked for game winners. Is that not a game winning homerun? Off Sabathia is pretty impressive no matter how you want to twist it. You find me the stat on game winning HRs v. Sabathia where that HR was the only run in the game. I bet you come up with 0. And not to mention, Melky had a walk-off hit last year.
blackdragon905,
Totally agree. Nadal didn’t even lose a step at the end of that match. He is so fit, but what really impressed me was the mental toughness.
It was an all time match and it deserved to lead Sportscenter.
Dude its a joke. Gardner has been up for a week. Overall I think Gardner is going to be better than Melky, but after a week of 3 hits, no one could honestly elect him the starter
Manny probably doesn’t even remember he had an at bat in the game.
ESPN has just announced Baseball Tonight is cancelled tonight due to one of the on field reporters doing the Yankee Game just suddenly sick. They will replace it with the replay of the 2007 World Series
Laughing my butt off!!
Just when you’re ready to leave this team for dead, they pull you back in with two classic wins.
Only 4 games back in the loss column of Minnesota, a team that is bound to come crashing back to Earth.
3 behind the Sox. If Cash can find some help, it still just might be doable. Matsui and Damon getting healthy would also be nice.
David Robertson , I take back what I said. Brett *might* make a good bench player and pinch runner when Johnny Damon returns.
In Sept, Melky hit a game winner in the 10th after a 5 hour long game. Melky also makes catches and throws to home to save games that your savior couldn’t dream of making
Why do you have to hate on Melky right now? Did not just lay down a terrific bunt. That was a good one when they were pitching him to bunt to third. That was an all youth movement run there.
I thin gardner is best suited to play left, melky is still a better CF because of his great arm…
So, no matter what Gardner does, he’s one of the clutchiest players in Yankee history now, right? Way better than Melky, a reason to trade Matsui, and more of a True Yankee than ARod, right?
As I mentioned earlier folks – there doesn’t seem to be a limit to how many ballots you can enter over at mlb.com.
I’ve gotten over 100 in for the ’stache tonight, whereas the limit for starters’ ballots was 25. Let’s get the Giambino on the roster!
Cano Cabrera,
stop being a Milky homer, and realize something is a joke.
Hmmmmm I wonder who wins ESPNs title town? Could it be Boston?
Jon,
Yes, correlation does not equal causation. Except when it does.
It could be an anomaly. But it might not be. It’s a small sample size but the numbers are striking.
Again, I expect Mo to rebound (as he did tonight) and pitch better in tie games in the future. But that doesn’t mean that he hasn’t had a legitimate problem in these situations recently.
David,
Totally Boston.
If we make a late run, who do you think will be our starters in September (and Oct. if we’re so lucky)?
AP, MM, JC +
CMW? PH? IPK? Someone else?
Solid at bat by Gardner to end it. It showed the toughness of guys whose names you know from the 96-01 era. I think his presence in the lineup really inspired some solid, scrappy play tonight. I dig it. Keep it up.
Wolf In Pinstripes,
No matter how many times we “vote” for Stache, Longoria will still somehow win
I think ESPN delays Yankee highlights for the same reason news hours delay their hyped segments: keep as many viewers watching as long as possible.
Just business.
Yazman ESPN always leads in with a quick update on the Sunday night game of the week. Even if it’s because it was Wimbledon, then a quick lead in should have followed. Instead they highlighted the Rays game. Even if it was a total accident, everyone knows that ESPN is the Red Sox’s whore. It’s no surprise to anyone who has followed ESPN more than a week. So anytime something like this happens you have to question if it’s intentional. That’s all. It kind of is what it is.
“3 behind the Sox. If Cash can find some help, it still just might be doable.”
This team is soooo leaky that spending young talent to try to patch these holes would be a waste. They can’t afford to make moves that won’t help next year’s team as well. This year, a lot of things needed to go right. They pretty much all went badly (except the pen), AND a bunch of unforseen things went really badly…like hugely important offensive cogs going down for long periods of time, and 5 of the 9 or 10 viable starters we started the season with missing multiple months with injury. In many cases, all at the same time. Basically, Moose is the only thing that went better than expected. And Giambi, after April. Jeter, Cano, Abreu, Melky, they’ve all been worse than expected.
David Robertson – the “change in programming” post was some seriously funny shiznit!
guys lets not forget joe, he awoke the team with that magnificant tirade and bulging veins
This is the Cap’n speaking…..THIS IS A WIN THAT TURNS OUR SEASON AROUND!!!!!
Thank heavens you were joking about Brett Gardner being anywhere close to Melky in the talent department. I was beginning to question your sanity.
I’ll give Gardner credit, he had a great at bat.. but did everyone member how Cano got to second?? melky’s sac bunt. stop bashing Melky, he’s gonna be the starter and damons gonna DH when he comes back. so yes Gardner will be in their.. REAL fans want Melky and Gardner and Damon in the line up together bc of what they bring to the line up as 8,9,1.. so stop saying bench Melky..
good win for the yanks
Why does ESPN do this Title town any way. Especially with the Celtics winning the NBA title its obvious. Even though NY has the most titles ever dont they? I think its 34-32 between Boston and NY.
Bring on the Rays.
We should win both games to silence the skeptics.
in the age of revenue sharing when no team is great with all stars everywhere, what’s wrong with having melky and gardner in the same outfield?
abreau may be the odd man out next year.
Funny you ask about our rotation in October. I was thinking about that yesterday. Of course a lot depends on Wang but as of now I feel really good about Moose, Joba and Andy.
the gardner/gammons interview was just shown on espn news
Mark,
You don’t need a “cannon” in CF. Range is the most important defensive skill there. In RF, arm strength is a bigger factor.
Both Melky and Gardner play a good CF. The one who hits better will play.
randy, they aren’t going to let giambi and abreu go at the same time. they both have to much good at bats around A-Rod..His bat infront of A-rod is to good..
abreu is a fa after this year and no options
Melky has a better arm then Gardner, but that means nothing. If Gardner can hit then he would be much more useful then Melky. Right now the Yanks are using Melky for his defense…he can’t hit. Gardner has good defense, good bunter, extremely fast. Every time he gets on base he can steal 2nd and even 3rd if he wanted to. Look at how much of a pest Reyes is when he gets on base..Yanks needed someone like that. He reminds me of a younger Damon..with less power.
David – that may be the case, but that shouldn’t stop us all from trying.
Where was CP in the list of possible September starters????
As usual we get the heart of the rotation.
Kazmir Tuesday and Garza Wednesday. Yay.
Anthony
July 6th, 2008 at 11:50 pm
My father works for the Richmond Braves and got me free tickets to all 4 of the Scranton Wilkes-Barre Yankees games about a month ago. I went to all the games, purely, to watch Brett Gardner and some of these new guys in the bullpen.
Hey, another Richmonder! I didn’t have a chance to go to those games, but did make it down to Norfolk that weekend to see one. It’s the first time I made a point of going to see certain people play — Gardner, Christian and Shelley (though he wasn’t there yet) — and I have to say it’s kinda weird to see someone on tv at Yankee Stadium that I saw in freaking Norfolk just a few weeks ago.
“Yazman ESPN always leads in with a quick update on the Sunday night game of the week.”
Interesting point, Mark. I certainly don’t disagree with their Bosox bias. I just think they often keep Yankee fans standing by for ratings purposes. But you may be right about tonight.
Ok, this was a good win. Again, nice to finally seem so fire and enthusiasm from this team. But let’s not let 1 win go to our heads. They blasted Texas on the heels of a AAA pitcher. Failed to show up on Thursday and Friday against the Sox. Eeek out a win yesterday and finally played baseball tonight.
Your only hope for now is that Girardi getting fired up and thrown sends more of a message that enough is enough. Perhaps the slug hitting Posada, Cabrera, Molina, Abreu will get the message.
Melky got lucky on his bunt. That was not a good bunt. But at the end of the day, it worked. did Girardi call for that or was that the bench coach.
Putting in Betemit to pinch hit produces the same results and the hitter he replaces. No value there.
Again, a great win and would have expected nothing less but this was not a dominant win, it was more of having the stars aligned and (1) a closer not as good as in the past – Paplebon, and (2) a poor fielding SS – Lugo.
Celebrate now but a sweep of Tampa is what will signal that the team is finally serious to start playing baseball and turn the season around. For now, there is still no signs of the offense, defense is improving, and the pitching – well where would they be without the pitching.
WOOOOHOOOO BRETT!!! Yeah baby!!! So proud of the youngster!
I had to go to a show tonight for work and just got home, my mom was texting me game updates…auurgh, sitting through a 45 minute set of electronica has never been so torturous in my life! Anyway, I’m chugging Cuban coffee now so I can stay up to watch the ESPN rerun later, haha. Did Joe Morgan sound like someone just killed his puppy when the Gardner groundball went through? Did Papsmear really have him in an 0-2 count? BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! The best part is knowing all the Sux fans probably looked at Brett’s batting avg. on the screen when he came up to bat and thought he was an easy out. hahahahaha PWNED!!!
Damn this feels good, cant wait to watch it, and that it was the youngster makes it even better! WAY TO GO BRETT, YOU’RE THE MAN!!!!
The ’stache better take him out and get him F’d up tonight to celebrate! Tomorrow is an off day after all! (but not an off day from voting for the ’stache on the All-Star ballot!
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anyway….w00t!!! Did I say that already?
ML i happen to disagree with not wanting a “cannon” in center, i personally feel a good arm in CF is a must, especially with a week arm in LF (damon) and a slower (abreu) i mean abreu gets rid of the ball quick, but he gets to it a lil slower..
Guys this isn’t Gardner vs. Melky. It may not have been flashy, but Melky’s bunt puts Cano in scoring position.
“Brett Gardner is 1 for 18. Meanwhile Johnny Damon is on the DL and the only other OF is Justin Christian. Not good.”
How bout’ that game winner Pete…let’s give the kid a look and not assume Johnny Damon means as much to this team as he says he does
With a name like “canocabrera” I wonder if youre a bit biased. Melky has been so bad its pitiful. I bet you love his sub-.250 batting average and his .206 average for all of June. Gardner can get to balls Melky can only dream of catching.
BBB
U sound absolutely pathetic
If the Yankees can just a decent arm(Randy Wolf,Burnett,Arroyo and Garcia) and a bench hitter,that will keep us in it.Andy isn’t Andy like last year and JOba is still working through stuff.
If we can move things around till Hughes,WAng,Matsui and Damon come back then okay.
But LaTroy,Ponson,Giese and Rasner will kill this team.
To be fair, it’s not just any old tennis. The men’s final at Wimbledon was one for the ages –