Game 93: Yankees at Blue Jays
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 11, 2008 
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YANKEES (49-43)
Gardner LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi DH
Posada C
Cano 2B
Betemit 1B
Cabrera CF
Chamberlain RHP
BLUE JAYS (45-47)
Inglett RF
Eckstein SS
Overbay 1B
Stairs DH
Barajas C
Rolen 3B
Wilkerson CF
Scutaro 2B
Lind LF
Halladay RHP
Joba Chamberlain (2-2, 2.45) vs. the Toronto hitters.
Roy Halladay (10-6, 2.88) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees are 20-7 in the games Joba has appeared in, 5-2 in his starts. He is 1-0 as a starter with a 2.57 ERA. … The Yankees are 4-2 against the Blue Jays. … I wish I had other exciting tidbits for you but I had a 6:28 a.m. flight out of Pittsburgh to Toronto that connected through Newark. Crunching numbers lost out out to fitful sleep on two small planes.
HEY BUDDY: Happy birthday to my nephew Jason, who is now 3. The J-Man received this inflatable house that you blow up with an air compressor in the backyard, climb into and bounce around until you either throw up or fall asleep. It’s great to be a kid.
TECHNOLOGY AT WORK: Meanwhile, the wireless access code at the Rogers Centre is 26 digits long and they change it for every series. Most parks have passwords like “baseball” or “pressbox.” Apparently piggybacking is a major issue here in Toronto.
A-ROD UPDATE: The fans here in Toronto don’t much like A-Rod. You can expect plenty of Madonna references and other such stuff. Meanwhile, C-Rod is here in Toronto to let A-Rod see one of his kids. The paparazzi will be all over this.
GET WELL SOON, KLAP: Our buddy Bob Klapisch of The Record, who is an actual baseball player along with being a fine baseball writer, got hit with a ball yesterday. Get well soon, pal.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 5:50 p.m.: The Yankees signed LHP Eric Milton and assigned him to Scranton. He was then placed on the DL. He is recovering from Tommy John surgery. … A.J. Burnett will start for Toronto on Sunday, not Brian Tallett. … Johnny Damon and Hideki Matsui had good days down in Tampa as they rehabbed. Damon had better range of motion in his shoulder. … The PA system is playing Lenny Kravitz as the Yankees take BP.
UPDATE, 6:25 p.m.: Vernon Wells (left hammy) is on the DL for Toronto and Alex Rios is away because his girlfriend is having a baby, hence the AAA Toronto lineup.
UPDATE, 6:53 p.m.: Just spoke to Brian Cashman to get his take on Eric Milton: “Nothing ventured, nothing gained,” he said. “We’ll make an assessment of how he is physically and try and get him going. I have no expectations of whether he can pitch for us this season, either in the majors or minors. But I can’t tell you he won’t.”
On Richie Sexson: “It’s something we’re going to look at. But I don’t know whether we’re going to make him an offer.”
Interesting to note that Milton and Sexson are represented by the same agent, Casey Close.
UPDATE, 7:19 p.m.: Yankees pick up right where they left off against Pittsburgh. It’s hard to see bunch doing much against Halladay. A-Rod is 1 of 14 with five strikeouts.
UPDATE, 8:01 p.m.: Posada hasn’t caught for a week and it sure looks it.
UPDATE, 8:16 p.m.: Good news, the Yankees won’t get no-hit tonight as A-Rod singled to center. But the odds of being held under three runs again seem high. Joe Girardi’s explanation for the offense before the game? “It just happens sometimes.”
UPDATE, 8:41 p.m.: That makes sense, take the bat out of A-Rod’s hands. Abreu is 12 of 18 on SBs. That’s not good enough to risk throwing away an out.
UPDATE, 9:02 p.m.: This has become an embarrassing game for the Yankees, who have hit four balls out of the infield, not come close to scoring and made a series of mistakes defensively.
UPDATE, 9:04 p.m.: Joba’s line: 6.2 7 3 3 0 9. If Wilson Betemit didn’t have an anvil for a glove, it might have been only two runs.
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
Rematch of Joba’s first start against Halladay.
Gonna be a tough game but I think we can pull it out.
oh, and Happy Birthday Jason!!!!!
Terrible news on Bob, my thoughts and prayers go out to him. Get well soon.
Joba, I hope the Yankee offense shows up for you tonight!
To Offense:
How about some runs? Puts less pressure on the starter. Considering he’s a rook, it may help him out some. Whaddya think?
Isn’t there a hotel in the stadium in toronto? thats probably the reason for the 26 digit changing password. they don’t want hotel guests getting free wireless.
Get well soon Klap.
i wonder if jason is hurt. he had a day off the other day, then 1b, then another day off, then another dh w/ all star break coming up.
Betemit-Cabrera-Gardner, I predict 6 strikeouts dispersed however you like amongst that trio tonight.
I grew up not far from the field where Klapisch got hit. Oh, the ignominy of going down in Parsippany…Hope he gets well soon.
I hope we pull out a win tonight.
Who knows maybe we can sign Richie Sexton
Did anyone click the links on Chad Jennings latest post? It is hysterically funny:
http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.....fault.aspx
Welcome to Canada, Jaba (Pizza the Hut) Chambermaid. Even without Wells in the lineup we are going to score about 7 or 8 runs before you get yanked in the 3rd for stinking it up again.
Get ready spankee fans for a Blue Jay sweep as we send you off to the all-star break with your tail between your legs.
I’m glad they are tearing down Spankee Stadium. What a dump. The house that Ruth built and the house that Jaba Chambermaid tore down. LOL.
well whaddya know – posada’s catching… does that mean they have a slow team? Haw.
From last thread:
“Unless the kid is some kind of computer genius, I don’t see anyone else offering him $100K, do you?”
He probably has a full scholarship to IU. For in state students the cost to go there is nearly 60K for four years. Is 40K really worth it to him if he can play baseball for 2 years and get drafted again and make much more than that?
His only risk is if he gets injured basically. He’s a lefty with a plus breaking which will get him drafted again as long as he doesn’t get hurt.
Getting hurt is a risk in the minors as well if he does sign so to me it’s not an open and shut case.
Decent lineup better than last nights horrible one.
I hope we can squeez a win outta Roy H. b/c he is really good.
Who knows we can maybe get Richie Sexton tonight
sweep !
July 11th, 2008 at 3:55 pm
“Welcome to Canada, Jaba (Pizza the Hut) Chambermaid. Even without Wells in the lineup we are going to score about 7 or 8 runs before you get yanked in the 3rd for stinking it up again.
Get ready spankee fans for a Blue Jay sweep as we send you off to the all-star break with your tail between your legs.
I’m glad they are tearing down Spankee Stadium. What a dump. The house that Ruth built and the house that Jaba Chambermaid tore down. LOL.”
Is this trash talk Canadian style? An interesting mix of lame and uninformed and bitterly envious.
Go Joba! Go Offense!
Happy Birthday Jason! Pete, you haven’t lived until you Bouncy Castle.
Paparazzi should be hung up by their fingernails if they terrorize a 3 year old girl.
Sorry to read about Klapish’s injury. Feel better soon Bob.
In-State at IU is probably worth about what you say (although I would guess a touch less – but if he gets hurt year one he could lose his scholarship which means he is down $87K.
And when you say plus breaking pitch – I automatically think Tommy John surgery. At least he’s a lefty – look out Traber!!!!
“Is this trash talk Canadian style? An interesting mix of lame and uninformed and bitterly envious.”
The least the hockey puck could have done was type in French.
LOL. Confucius say “If, when you look into your own heart, you find nothing wrong there, what is there to worry about, what is there to fear? ”
LOL, Confucius.
TK,
I didn’t realize that they pull scholarships if you get hurt. That adds a different dimension to the situation. Still don’t know what I would do if I were him but it’s a good predicament to be in.
Bluto is a troll!!!
Canada sucks thats why everyone makes fun of it.
Bluto,
Were you waiting on the Yankees to play Toronto again just so you could be a troll on this blog? I’m sure Pete doesn’t mind the hits though.
Comparing the 1996 Yankees to the 2008
RISP 1996: .293/.385/.434
RISP 2008: .256/.339/.380
RISP 2 outs 96′: .263/.387/.402
RISP 2 outs 08′: .270/.363/.392
RO2B 1996: .276/.423/.425
RO2B 2008: .240/.335/.380
RO3B 1996: .320/.458/.426
RO3B 2008: .279/.353/.314
The one thing that stands out is the OBP % that’s attributed to patient hitting that this team just doesn’t have especially w/ the 1st pitch swinging mentality. What could be done ?
1. We need Damon
2. We need to make productive outs since our ABs are short
3. Some damn plate discipline wouldn’t hurt
4. Pray Gardner can hit and Cano learns to hit w/ more discipline
5. Jetes, Alex and Posada need to step it up
I’d literally think about canning Long. It’s a bit too much w/ this inconsistancy and you can see it w/ thier ABs.
is this troll the return of “Jesse Litsh eats babies”?
3 games with Toronto, Oakland, Minnesota, Boston, Baltimore, and 1 game on the 31st with Angels. 10 of 16 are at home.
Will this be the team that beat Kazmir, or the team that lost to Maholm?
I suspect in the next 3 weeks till the end of July, we’ll see some changes, and whether we’re serious sellers or minimal tweakers!
Just to let A-rod see one of his kids, huh?
Pete, I think your right, when you said on a post a week or so ago that C-Rod and A-Rod will kiss, and make up and get back together for the kids. I dont think any other person, less than a week after filing for a divorce, would bring their kid, personally, to see the kids father.
LOL, at these Toronto fans here. If good teams cant score on Joba, im pretty sure a crappy team isnt going to get into scoring position against him. Keep dreaming though.
Praying for Cano to become more patient will yield nothing…does anyone remember Soriano’s performance in the playoffs a couple of years back before the A-Rod deal? He swung at everything…and wasn’t changing. What I have seen from Cano is a reluctance to change and mature at bat. The other day (I believe the day after a good game) he went up and just swung at every pitch…and flied out 3 times, I believe. Keep waiting for him to change…by this point in his career, he should be maturing…he is not.
Brandon
Do you have the stats for the 1998 team that won 114 games and swept the Padres in the WS, to compare to the present team?
Comparing the 1996, 1998 Yankees to the 2008
RISP 1996: .293/.385/.434
RISP 1998: .299/.380/.480
RISP 2008: .256/.339/.380
RISP 2 outs 96′: .263/.387/.402
RISP 2 outs 98′: .248/.341/.408
RISP 2 outs 08′: .270/.363/.392
RO2B 1996: .276/.423/.425
RO2B 1998: .256/.364/.400
RO2B 2008: .240/.335/.380
RO3B 1996: .320/.458/.426
RO3B 1998: .297/.398/.448
RO3B 2008: .279/.353/.314
Jon-
Your’e right- Soriano in 8 postseason series, 41 games hit .225 with OBP .279 and SLG .319 with 4 homers, 18 RBI’s 9 walks, 49 so’s in 160 ABs.
what’s going on here with the lack of posts today? it’s like everyone left for golf at lunchtime…
Brandon
Thanks. The 96 team were the comeback kids, the 98 team was one of the all-time great Yankee teams, and it’s interesting that this 2008 team only led in one of 16 scenarios and that is their .270 BA with 2 outs and RISP.
funny story about supporting the stache this week.
i guess i was wrong and didn’t have unlimited texting with my wireless contract like i thought i did. i guess i got confused with texts to other people with verizon.
i panicked thinking i’d be charged .20 per text over the limit and would owe over $400 for voting like a freak.
luckily i was able to upgrade to the 5000/month text thing. and hopefully they’ll let me downgrade after this month. **phew**
oh, and i’m actually pretty close to my 5000 text limit for this month…
Eric Milton?? Rather look at Freddy Garcia as a 2009 option, unless he’s demanding a multiyear contract.
Here’s a few more telling stats
RO12 96′: .294/.360/.441
RO12 98′: .302/.372/.492
RO12 08′: .224/.305/.324
RO13 96′: .317/.335/.442
RO13 98′: .405/.430/.647
RO13 08′: .322/.363/.489
RO123 96′: .299/.337/.420
RO123 98′: .341/.374/.553
RO123 08′: .239/.294/.409
This offense is so freaking inconsistant again OBP % clearly a problem in force out situations 1st & 3rd to bat .322 in this situation but basesloaded to bat .239 ?Where is the patience ? where is the put contact on the ball for the next guy approach SLG is not thier problem infact OBP % and just getting a big single or big XBH looks to be the problem IMO.
1998—- .288 BA, .362 OBP, .460 SLG, 207 HR, 153 SB, 965 R
2008—- .269 BA, .340 OBP, .416 SLG, 153 HR, 104 SB, 750 R
The numbers for this year are projections based on current productivity on a per game basis. This team is averaging 1.3 fewer runs per game than ten years ago.
One huge difference is balance. In ’98 the Yanks had 8 players hit 17 + HR. This team only has three men on pace to hit 17+ for the season.
The ’98 Yankees overall: .288/.362/.460
The ’08 Yankees overall: .269/.340/.416
It’s not surprising that the ’98 Yankees hit better with RISP, since the ’98 version just hit better. I wouldn’t draw any great conclusions from it.
Check this out!
Pretty wild stuff (especially for anyone that attended the 7/4 game. Big Brother is watching.
si.com/yankeestadium
“One huge difference is balance. In ‘98 the Yanks had 8 players hit 17 + HR. This team only has three men on pace to hit 17+ for the season.”
You always have more “balance” when you have more good players. The ’98 Yanks just had more good players.
Sorry to hear about “the Klap”. I want to know who it is that hit a ball so hard it did this much damage? and a grounder no less! Let’s sign this guy instead of Sexson…
I feel sorry for Klap but maybe now he’ll learn karma gets you.(leaking the BS of Ian Kennedy and Melky for Santana)
aka Joe, thanks. that picture is great.
the one thing i see wrong with it is that long scorboard/screen along the 3B mezzanine wall has about 3 different things going on at once.
Eric Milton …..
For those that don’t recall, he was a highly rated LHP the Yankees drafted & signed in the mid 90′s. He went out and got a large tattoo of a Yankee logo on his back and not long after was traded to the Twins in the Chuck Knoblauch deal.
Known for giving up the long ball and also an innings eater.
Worth a chance seeing as the Yankees are thin in lefthanders in the system.
Wave Your Hat—-
Not exactly. A-Rod and Giambi are both on pace to hit more HR than anyone on the ’98 team. That team had an individual HR high of 28 (Tino Martinez), so there were eight guys between 28 and 17… that’s balance throughout the lineup. It’s not as simple as having “more good players”. It’s also not having one or two guys who everyone is waiting on to deliver.. I think this team is guilty of that.
Agreed, timely hitting is definitely not one of this team’s strong points.
In ’98 it was something everyone did as naturally as breathing, eating & sleeping.
This year it’s so bad that this injury depleted & inexperienced rotation (and sometimes erratic bullpen) is actually saving the team’s hide quite a bit.
Pete – Going back a couple threads I can’t bring myself to say ‘no’ on acquiring Richie Sexson. I have to say ‘flat out no way in hell’ on him.
You’re right he brings height to the bench but unless he has a great cross-over dribble or could execute the pick and roll with Andrew Brackman, he ain’t worth it.
How is Andrew’s rehab coming along by the way?
BTW Robinson Cano’s .250/.286/.363 is the equivalent of Scott Brosious at 26 yrs. old
Milton hasn’t been any good since 2001. Next.
Man, I better be careful who I bring to a game with me in the future…
I try to stay away from talking about gossip that has nothing to do with baseball like the a-rod hoopla, but i’ve gotta say that regardless of what he did (if anything), no decent father should be barred from seeing their kids.
anyway, back to baseball!
i still can hardly believe how well joba has been doing as a starter. yes, we knew he was a great pitcher, but transitioning from one inning to 6 is a huge task and he’s made such a smooth transition. he’s the real deal – no one can deny it.
any word on wang these days?
Get well soon Bob.
Eric Milton.
Brian Casman. EPIC FAIL.
Men who cheat on their wives are not “decent fathers”.
Anybody know what Youk said that M&MD are talking to Girardi about on the FAN? I missed it if Youk popped off.
cheating on your wife has nothing to do with being a father. IF he even cheated!
If your father cheated on your mother, would you want to erase him from your life?
Men who cheat on their wives are not “decent husbandsâ€.
There I thought I’d fix it for you. Him not being in love w/ his wife has nothing to do w/ him being a decent father, he loves his daughters, he just might not love his wife for whatever reason who knows certainly not you or me.
I have a better quesiton for you. Do you think cheating on his wife when he has small children qualifies him as a “decent father” ?
“cheating on your wife has nothing to do with being a father”
Wow – that’s news to me – especially if your wife kicks your butt out of the house for running around.
I know this isn’t a morality blog – but it should at least be a reality blog when it comes to this kind of situation.
TKinDC,
my guess it was something like “waaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa, waaaaaaaa…oh what the #@(#…. waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa”
lol saucY
Is it obvious only to me that Joe Girardi obviously uses the word “obvious” many times in conversation ?
Is it obvious to others ?
Keith
I remember Milton. He had potential. He did reasonably well for a little while then had the injury & faded away. At this point he’s probably worth a look if the price is right. It could be worth a gamble that his arm bounces back enough to at least fill a role in the bullpen. Kerry Wood has shown signs of resurrection in the bullpen. Milton isn’t a power guy like Wood of course. But the 1-inning stints seem to be better for Wood’s arm and reliever with a few different pitches (and a lefty to boot) is hard to find.
You can never have enough pitching. Future ace? Nope. Future #4 starter? Not too likely. But if the price is right ….
Besides, he already has the tattoo, and if he wins 5 games in NY he’ll have contributed more than Carl Pavano ever did.
This is why I steer clear from that topic on my bloggity – it’s not relevant to our team and their games!
Let’s agree to disagree, hope things work out for A-Rod, his wife, AND the kids – the victims in the whole thing – and get back to baseball talk, which is what we’re all really here for.
I wonder if the Toronto-lovin’ Joba-hatin’ posters on here are actually delusional enough to believe that Joba isn’t good or if they just like starting crap…
“The Yankees are 20-7 in the games Joba has appeared in.”
Again, there are these things called correlation and causation…
Ah, what the hell, I give up. It’s pointless with Pete.
When I say if the price is right, I’m assuming Milton’s is just a minor league contract that’s weighted with incentives to cut the risk down.
What if a Dad cheated on his kids by doing Dad things with other kids, like fishing, playing catch, making model toys?
He loved their mother, but ignored his kids.
Just when you thought you heard it all with Manny being Manny ……..
http://www.boston.com/sports/b.....nny_calls/
Hey guys! I just got back from fanfest.
I have to say, there is something amazing about pitching your 29 mile an hour ‘it is so not a fastball’ to a video projection of manny ramirez (and, of course, walking him on four pitches).
Got tons of stuff. Now if only I had tickets to the game!
Sorry to disappoint y’all but Terry Francona said this afternoon that Mariano WILL NOT START the All-Star Game.
http://www.bostonherald.com/bl.....-new-york/
The only really bad thing that could happen (besides emotional or physical abuse) is if a husband passes on a STD (esp. HIV) to his wife.
That would be just horrible for mom and kids.
Onto baseball!
Moon Bounce! One of the Lords great inventions. Once you consider it a sunk cost its the best way to exhaust a child known to mankind. Happy Birthday little dude
I’ll never understand giving the most ABs to the worst hitter on the team. I don’t care how fast he is, neither Garner nor Melky should even sniff the leadoff spot. Move jeter and the rest up like they did in Pittsburgh, but have more firepower with Po catching and Giambi DHing.
“Sorry to disappoint y’all but Terry Francona said this afternoon that Mariano WILL NOT START the All-Star Game.”
Why would we think he would start? He’s the greatest CLOSER of all time. We would be disappointed is Francona decided to let Mariano pitch the eighth *blegh* and Papelbon the ninth.
Sorry to disappoint y’all but Terry Francona said this afternoon that Mariano WILL NOT START the All-Star Game.
Oh…No…How…Will…I..Deal…with…this…disappointment
SOX & Dawgs -
Noted. Francona has no class. Typical red sox inferiority complex.
Jon,
Pete just has his own opinion. For example bunting, which in his opinion is false hustle which I’ll personally never agree with but its just an opinion.
SOX & Dawgs:
I’d rather him CLOSE.
I’ve said this before, but if he made him the starter of the game, it would just be to avoid having to publicly make a decision on who the closer would be…
Mel-
regardin sTDs, that’s why guys wear protection when we’re on the road
The only thing I’ll ever say on the A-gossip fiasco is that unless he’s been abusive, they should be allowed to have a relationship with both parents even if their parents divorce or live apart. Did he cheat? I’m not doubting he did. But why punish the kids any further for that?
I sort of expect that lots of athletes do it. And lots of athletes wives do it too.
Is it good for the kids when they do? Nope.
Is not being allowed to see one parent any better for the kids than that? Nope.
Is A-Rod’s personal life really of our concern? Nope.
Is there more to the discussion? Yep.
Am I going to delve into it here? Nope.
Should you? Nope.
Is this the place for that anyways? Nope.
Yeah i saw that manny thing on sportscenter – he’s REALLY focused on the game, enough so that he had to make a REALLY important phone call
I’m with one of the writers. Why choose 6 SP and 6 relievers when they’re all going to pitch around an inning? That’s saying that relievers are just as deserving as SP.
2 Closers, the best setup guy and the rest starters.
Ansky …
I share your thoughts with Milton. Nothing ventured – nothing gained. A minor league deal won’t break the bank. Being lefthanded doesn’t hurt his cause.
I would maintain that Francona has enough class to bring Rivera into the game during the 9th inning. If I am wrong after the game I will come on here and admit it.
It just makes sense for Rivera to close the last all star game at the old stadium.
“I’ve said this before, but if he made him the starter of the game, it would just be to avoid having to publicly make a decision on who the closer would be…”
If he makes Paps the closer he wouldn’t leave Yankee Stadium alive
Evan,
But the cup doesn’t work too well.
yankee chick-
you’re absolutely right. there’s no proof ARod cheated. If the glove doesn’t fit, you must acquit.
And even if he did cheat, big deal. famous people are allowed to cheating, atleast that’s what Giuliani told me.
Mel-
ROFLMAO!
Ray – not to mention he’s the best closer of all time, in his last all-star game at Yankee stadium and he’s having a CY Young caliber season
Manny has Boston and it’s fans over a barrel. He could commit a Brinks robbery and the delusional fans up there would take up a collection to bail him out.
Where it gets prickly is in a tie game in the 9th. Do you bring in Mo or Paps?
Manny is def in his own little wacky world..
Must be an interesting place
JoeT
I have no argument with you at all…Mo is having a great year and should be the closer at the all star game.
Not sure why Francona picked so many relievers. Assuming that Mo pitches the 9th do you pitch K-Rod the eighth and Papelbon the 7th? Not to mention all the starters.
eric milton ???
I’d like to see Mariano close out the final All-Star Game at Yankee Stadium.
In a perfect world, the AL would be leading heading into the top of the 9th and Mariano comes in and throws the last inning and the last pitch resulting in a strikeout.
We signed Eric Milton? Am I reading that correctly?
haha they are playing Lenny Kravitz, that is cold.
Francessa has no problem with giving Arroyo $12M but doesn’t want to give Sabathia the money next year?
yeah Ray – I think the toughest decision is who gets the 7th and 8th innings…. K-Rod has I think 37 saves already
No Rebecca – Milton came up as a yankee and we traded him away.
Guys, check this out:
http://coolerfun.com/Beer_Belly.html
The best part’s at the bottom. A Wine Rack.
LOL
Francona chose Carlos Guillen, Dioner Navarro, George Sherrill, Justin Duchscherer and Joe Nathan.
He had to take Sherrill because the Orioles weren’t represented and he probably took Nathan since he’s one of the best closers. The rest of the relievers and starters chosen were done by the players.
Toronto is pathetic..They are in last place don’t they realize that they have to just win games and it doesnt matter who they are playing against. Halladay was supposed to pitch yesterday instead they held him back from facing the Orioles..the team that is ahead of them to pitch against the Yanks and now they are pitching Burnett on short rest.
“Francessa has no problem with giving Arroyo $12M but doesn’t want to give Sabathia the money next year?”
well you know, Arroyo has already pitched in the AL East, so that makes him more of a guarantee than Sabathia.
/sarcasm.
ray (sox fan),
I agree. Rivera is a closer, not a starter. he made the all star game as a closer, not as a starter.
ha!! gotta love that… playing Lenny Kravitz? awesome.
“Francessa has no problem with giving Arroyo $12M but doesn’t want to give Sabathia the money next year?”
You can’t compare 12 for one year to 18+ for six years. If they brought in Arroyo and he disappointed he could be cut loose next year. If Sabathia were brought in and either disappointed or suffered a major injury, we’d be stuck with him long term. The duration of the contract is far more important than the value.
Whoops – I stand corrected Rebecca – I just saw Pete’s update.
TurnTwo – hey we found something to agree on!
I’m surprised that the Jays are moving their pitchers all around to give the Yanks their best shot – where was all this effort while they were going to the cellar in the division.
Actually Rebecca it does appear he’s coming back to the Yanks.
Left-hander Eric Milton, taken in the first round of the 1996 amateur draft by the Yankees and traded two years later to Minnesota in Chuck Knoblauch deal, is set to rejoin the organization. Milton, who had elbow surgery last June, started working out Friday at the Yankees’ minor league complex.
Milton was 0-4 with a 5.17 ERA in six starts last season with Cincinnati. He threw in the outfield as part of Friday’s session.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....;type=lgns
From mlbtraderumors –
Eric Milton, remember him? The AP is reporting that he is set to rejoin the Yankees after working out at the team’s minor league complex. The 33 year-old lefty had Tommy John surgery in June of last year. He’s said to be six weeks away from pitching in games, and the Yankees have 2009 in mind as well.
Milton was a top prospect in the Yankees’ system back in the late nineties before being traded to the Twins in the Chuck Knoblauch deal. He never pitched above Double A in the Yankee organization.
J.P. Ricciardi is a snake-oil salesman of a GM who gets lauded as some sort of genius but has gotten that team nowhere while he’s been running the show. I think him getting fired will be great if only for how loud he whines on his way out the door. Toronto was a good franchise once, but that guy has done nothing to get them back anywhere near where they were in the early 90s.
“TurnTwo – hey we found something to agree on!”
haha, it was bound to happen sooner or later!
milton is the person who spurned the yankees contract offer beofore going to cinninati
I see Jeff Nelson is the latest armchair coach to observe that the current team has no clubhouse chemistry.
“J.P. Ricciardi is a snake-oil salesman of a GM who gets lauded as some sort of genius”
i really dont recall anyone who thinks JP Riccardi is a good GM.
I noticed Pavano is tossing some batting practice session now.
What are the chances of him getting traded at the deadline for ANYone including a peanut vendor?
Hey if the vendor has a good arm he could make a some sales on long tosses from the next section.
Seriously though … it would be great to get SOMEthing for him even if it was only a measly little moral victory in the end.
As much as I’d love to see Rivera start, it just wouldn’t be fitting if he didn’t.
I mean.
As much as I’d love to see Rivera start, it just wouldn’t be fitting if he didn’t close.
OT:Breaking News
Brett Favre asked the Packers to release him so he can return to the NFL with another team after apparently being told his latest retirement reversal wasn’t welcome news in Green Bay.
The team said it would do “what’s right” in response to Favre’s request, which was first reported by ESPN.
“Brett earned and exercised the right to retire on his terms,” the team’s statement said.
“We wanted him to return and welcomed him back on more than one occasion. Brett’s press conference and subsequent conversations in the following weeks illustrated his commitment to retirement. The finality of his decision to retire was accepted by the organization. At that point, the Green Bay Packers made the commitment to move forward with our football team.”
The 38-year-old Favre retired March 6 after a 17-year career, but almost immediately began dropping hints that he was having second thoughts.
The Packers statement said Favre now has the right to petition NFL commissioner Roger Goodell to be reinstated, at which point he would return to the team’s active roster.
But the statement did not specify what the Packers would do after that, beyond doing “what’s right and in the best interest of the team.”
If the team has committed to moving forward without Favre, their options once he was reinstated would include trading him to another team or releasing him so he would be free to sign with the team of his choice. The Packers already have committed to going with quarterback Aaron Rodgers, a first-round pick in 2005 who has been sitting behind Favre for his first three seasons in the NFL.
Releasing Favre presents the possibility that he will sign with NFC North rivals Minnesota or Chicago, where he would be an upgrade over the incumbent QBs. If the Packers traded him, there would be teams outside the division such as Baltimore or Tampa Bay, and perhaps Washington, that would be interested. There also has been speculation he could go to Miami for disgruntled defensive end Jason Taylor, the 2006 defensive player of the year.
It would be an ugly end to what has been one of the most celebrated partnerships in recent NFL history.
“As with all Packers greats, Brett’s legacy will always be celebrated by our fans and the organization, regardless of any change in his personal intentions,” the statement said. “Brett and Deanna will always be a part of the Packers family.”
ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported Friday that sources close to Favre and the team told him agent James “Bus” Cook asked the Packers for Favre’s release in a letter because the Packers were not receptive to the idea of Favre wanting to play again.
So Toronto is playing Kravitz’ music. It could be worse, they could be playing Madonna. UGH!
“What are the chances of him getting traded at the deadline for ANYone including a peanut vendor?”
i LOVE fresh roasted peanuts… i like cashews more, though.
Great pitching matchup tonight…can’t get much better than Doc Halladay vs Joba Chamberlain. Go Yankees!
Kevin
LMAO @ Kravitz!!! Toronto will never get over the whole Howie Clark incident will they…
Madonna a butt ugly cougar. It is astonishing that Arod could be interested in that used up old bag.
mlb is cool, whoever voted for final vote will get a free trial for a week of MLB.TV
Pavano is traveling with the team?
YES THE GAME IS ON TONIGHT IN GRAND CAYMAN!!
Cassandra
It didn’t say .. I would think he’s just tossing BP in Tampa or in another setting.
we wouldnt get anything worthwhile for pavano
maybe he can mop up the showers
so the next week, includin all-star week? is free.
Vrsce-
what’s a “cougar?”
Anyways what is the general consensus of the yanks chances tonight? I say theres an 80% chance of a W
There is no doubt about the quality of Pavano’s character.
Consider this, he will be trying to get a contract for next year. On the basis of pure self interest; he may actually pitch well.
lets go edwar!!!!!!!!
“mlb is cool, whoever voted for final vote will get a free trial for a week of MLB.TV”
so what if you voted like, 500 times?
no excuse not to take this game tonight. GO YANKEES!
wow that blue jays lineup is pretty lean…i know were facing doc but this needs to be turned into a “dubya” (W)
same
Cassandra
Very droll:A Cougar is a female, usually between thirty and fifty years-old, who enjoys the sexual company of younger men.
What is a Cassandra?
Cassandra n. Greek Mythology. A daughter of Priam, the king of Troy, endowed with the gift of prophecy but fated by Apollo never to be believed.
I hope the Yankees can take advantage of the slightly diminished Toronto lineup.
Let’s go Yankees.
“Consider this, he will be trying to get a contract for next year. On the basis of pure self interest; he may actually pitch well.”
you know, everytime i think there is absolutely no chance he pitches in a game this year, i come back to this point, and i’m not sure what to think…
is he better off proving he’s healthy and ready for some big, multi-year incentive laden deal? or to go FA and sign on a one year deal and just start over fresh somewhere else?
Jeter2007
Agreed. But trading Pavano even-up for someone that never makes it past A ball, then claiming we got the better end of the deal (which could actually be true) would still be a moral or symbolic victory.
I remember many years ago there was an article on guy with no legs who worked out with (or even played a little) for the St Paul Saints. Does he still play?
On second thought, that would be an insult to the guy with no legs if there wasn’t another player packaged with Pavano.
“I hope the Yankees can take advantage of the slightly diminished Toronto lineup.”
i have no doubt that Joba can handle this lineup… but its not the lineup the yankees need to worry about.
toronto could score 2 runs off of Joba tonight over 7 innings, and if the yankees are completely shut down by Doc Halladay, they could lose 2-1.
I think we should be rushing Pavano back and pitching him until his arm falls off (probably warm-ups of the first game). But seriously we’re paying him a lot of money, we could use an experienced starter, and when he was healthy he was very successful. He came off an 18-8 year when we signed him. At the time I thought we were giving him way too much money for a guy that had one good year but regardless, we should rush him back and get whatever we can out of him for the last few months of the season.
Turn Two -
I know. I guess what I meant was I hope the offense can do something against Halliday and Joba can take advantage of this Toronto lineup.
So is everyone here predicting a complete game shutout by Halladay ?
Make that a complete game shutout with only 85 pitches ?
“I know. I guess what I meant was I hope the offense can do something against Halliday and Joba can take advantage of this Toronto lineup.”
this would certainly be best case scenerio.
I like the Milton signing, let him retire as a Yankee. He is really the one player recently who the Yankees traded who became any good. It was well lworth it though, Knoblauch was an outstanding Yankee during the championship years.
on
July 11th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
Praying for Cano to become more patient will yield nothing…does anyone remember Soriano’s performance in the playoffs a couple of years back before the A-Rod deal? He swung at everything…and wasn’t changing.”
Because Soriano “swung at everything….and wasn’t changing.”, that means 25 year old Cano will make no adjustments in his career. EVER. Time’s up.
Maybe you should take up scouting, given your predictive genius. Let’s just get Cano out of here now, it’s downhill from here.
Other than the fact that they are both Dominican and second basemen who have played for the Yankees, what else dooms them both to non-changing, big swingers??
” What I have seen from Cano is a reluctance to change and mature at bat. The other day (I believe the day after a good game) he went up and just swung at every pitch…and flied out 3 times, I believe. Keep waiting for him to change…by this point in his career, he should be maturing…he is not.”
Also, you mention how Soriano was “swinging at everything” in a postseason (presumably 2003, you’re welcome for providing the actual year) and that is somehow some sort of predictive gauge for Cano’s future postseasons?
Well, he just had his best postseason to date in his young career:
.333/.375/.800
Perhaps you should mix in a little actual research to help support what looks like pure, subjective emotionalism.
joba is due for a gem.let’s see how well he pitches now that he has been told not to shake the catcher off until he becomes a star.he has a 2.45 era,that is not bad at all and he will only get better and don’t give me any of that you just jinxed him stuff because i don’t believe in that.i am confident he’s gonna be special.he is 7 months older than hughes and is light years ahead of him and kennedy and to the yankee hater,i would be angry also if i were a blue jays fan also.
you got it er… oh you said Holliday, no complete game shutout for **JOBA**
JoeT28in09 –
You know, you have a good point there.
Pavano owes the team what … about 600 innings for all the time he’s been getting paid to sit on his duff? He’s given them 111 so far.
This means if he goes 8 inning per game for every single team game for the rest of the season, he’ll still come up a few innings short.
Can he close on Mariano’s off days too?
i forgot to say something to yankees chick,you are beautiful,if you ever wan’t to talk email me at brucebowler@sbcglobal.net.,sorry everyone i just had to say that.
Never wanted us to get rid of Milton in the first place.
I would just like to see some better control for Joba. If he can figure out how to throw 99 and hit the corners? Yeah. That’d be awesome.
I know as a strikeout pitcher, Joba’s pitch count will always be towards the high end, but he’ll be at his best when he cuts down on the balls.
The other day the Toronto GM said that Toronto will not make the playoffs this year. They’re certainly not acting like that – holding Halliday one extra day to pitch against the Yanks and starting Burnett on short rest.
Pete on espnews again!
bru-
I hope you wife doesn’t get wind of this.
Ansky – yeah I mean he’s there, we’re not going to resign him so it’s not like well he’s injury prone so lets shut him down and start fresh next year. Screw him, he owes us, rush him out there and get what you can out of him. When healthy he’s better then Rasner and Ponson (even though he had a couple solid starts). ha – I said when healthy… but yeah, he had his TJ surgery, everything should be healed, he had his leg lengthened or w/e that whole deal was, his ribs are healed from the accident, I guess his @$$ feels better from his slip and fall off the mound lol – wow what a tool… still think we should run him out there as long as he can go..
WOW look at the old school uni’s
at the thunder and Binghamton mets game. Plenty of scouts here. Fernando Martinez leads off for the b-mets. Austin Jackson is the dh
Those are some ugly ass retro uniforms.
bru – you’re not the first one to say that.
and this is great for Gardner – the arguments about him have been he hasn’t been hitting etc, and the defense is he’s faced the best pitchers in the league… cue doc holliday lol
The Jays have never had good uni’s – never. It must be a canadian thing.
Cassandra
Maybe his wife is already hooking up with C-Rod.
Run, Brett, run!
Baltimore on the board.
Vrsce-
I don’t thing Madonna is ugly. After all beauty is the eye of the beholder. But I do think its odd that ARod is interested in someone who is pushing 50. He should stick to young women, like me
RUN BRETT RUN
Fly Gardner Fly!
Hey there Pete,
I know I am rocking the boat here, but why not pick up Bonds? The guy can still play as evidenced by last year and he’s got to better than Chad Moeller, Christian, Sexson, or anyone else currently available. Hey, he might even take away from some of A-rod’s traveling press circus. It would be pretty cool to have Bonds in pinstripes just for a few months.
how can jeet pull that ball?
UGH!!!
i missed it… how did Brett get on base?
Cassandra
I agree.
I hope you are more understanding than cynthia.
damnit jeter, if gardner hadnt of stole 2nd, that would have been another dp
JoeT 28 in 09
I’d only use Pavano if the team throws in the towel by the trade deadline, then yeah it’d be morally correct to make him work his ass (and arm) off in meaningless games.
But I don’t see that happening because the Yanks are making it to October this year.
Better would be not giving him the opportunity to showcase his studliness at the big league level.
please tell me we’re not doing the ‘we won’t advance the runner’ thing again?
Those flashback unis were the Jays’ road unis of the 80s.
Don’t know why they wear the old road unis at home.
Brett was HBP
Eric Milton? Interesting.
thanks rebecca.
RUN FORREST! RUN!
darn…
Joba time
Hey guys, swing, OK?
RISP stranded
If I’m not mistaken there is a guy behind the backstop wearing a Madonna mask, and he held up a sign that said “Hit One for Me Big Boy”. What a maroon.
Maybe the divorce stuff is starting to affect A-Rod. He has looked terrible at the plate for a few games now.
let me put my surprise face on…
ok, joba time!
ansky – i think if he’s actually healthy, Pavano could help us get to October.
and that was just awful.. man on 2nd nobody out for 2-3-4 in the order and we don’t even get him to third? Jeter pulls an outside pitch to third… poke that 2 second and then we just need a flyball from abreu
More outs with RISP. What a surprise.
0-3!!
At least doc broke a sweat.
Hope Joba brought his A-game.
I really have had it with ARod. I’m sorry. He should go home, decompress, whatever. Enough.
A-rod’s game is all mental. No question the big D is affecting it.
The 2008 Yankees: Stranding runners, every day!
Just turned off the game.
Pathetic, once again. Bad job by Jeter to start things off there.
Gardner should’ve been on third with 1 out and Abreu at the plate.
Arod back to pre-MVP form. He should’ve been drug tested last year.
nice AB’s by the zillionaires.. BUT MORONS blame it on Melky. Jeter terrible AB and the same for scardy cat Abreu and Afraud..
Our big shots STINK…HOW hard is that to comprehend brain surgeons???????????
Arod is clueless at the plate……
Can Joba stop all the damn walks…..
“Interesting to note that Milton and Sexson are represented by the same agent, Casey Close”
– — Pete Abe
If our Blogfather is hinting here – (and he must be) then I guess we should be sizing up pinstripes for a very tall, strike-out prone righthanded hitter who isn’t mentally tough.
B’Bye Justin Christian.
y was arod taking all the way on the 1st pitch?
looked like he was up there guessing
This is a perfect example of where I’m in opposition with the work the pitcher crowd.
The first pitch Arod saw was probably the most hittable one he saw. But he was bound and determined to take a pitch for taking a pitch’s sake. Especially with a man in RISP, he should be swinging at the first good pitch he sees.
screw the divorce stuff maybe arod is just a idiot classless and clutchless..
what the hell they only have him for 9 more years for a fortune…..
Can soneone explain to me what Jeter was doing hitting to third, Bunt Jeter, Bunt.
what channel is the game on?
Its not on YES
Arod is officially on the interstate with RISP. Choke-Rod indeed…
JoeT
You’re right … if he’s healthy he could actually be good … which is why they signed him in the first place.
But nobody’s expecting that either.
Just me or did Halladays 2 seamer to Abreu look like a whiffle ball pitch?
Damn
“A Rod caught looking” has a whole different connotation in light of the strip club revelations.
To me, the big culprit that inning was Jeter. Since he didn’t move Gardner over, that put undue pressure on Abreu and A-Rod to try and do something. Jeter is the master of going the other way. Not sure why he was trying to pull that ball through the hole.
Game is on My9
Yeah, I do think the Divorce is getting to Alex..
Glad to see Clay Bucholz continues to be all he was cracked up to be. NOT.
Nice to see Joba using the curve early
miggs, my9.
ARod has us paying the wages of his sin.
game is on my9 miggs
“Can soneone explain to me what Jeter was doing hitting to third, Bunt Jeter, Bunt.”
There were 2 strikes at the time of the stolen base, Einstein.
I think it’s the big C being in town giving Arod as much of a gas pain as the big D!
Laura – great point about A-Rod’s personal life affecting his baseball performance. We all know he can be a fragile man when it comes to emotions, so let’s hope his teammates and friends/family are helping him through the tough times so he can continue to produce!
I don’t know. Is this some delayed effect? He had about 5 hits against Boston while this was brewing. I think he’s just slumping. However, I do think that the more he slumps the harder he presses. It is mental in that regard.
I realize that I’m probably not the first to mention that.
Catch it, Jorge.
Where’s Molina…
Ok, so catching up on the game.
I know we are facing Halladay, but the Yankees better figure out that to win, you have to score runs. That means touching all the bases before you get back to the batters box and walk to the dugout.
Not stare at a pitch like Arod.
Did anyone here know that the Chicago Cubs used to have their spring training facilities on Catalina Island?
Another difference between Torre and Girardi. No way Torre would have sat out Jorge. He would have put him behind the plate for the last 5 games even letting the Yankees lose every one.
Nice recovery there Joba
Joba is killing me with these balls. He’s got to work on keeping his pitch count down.
Wow, watching the Blue Jay feed, and I can’t believe how wrong the commentators are…Joba still building up his arm strength and at a 90 pitch limit. And they are crediting Hank Steinbrener with moving Joba into the rotation…
Here come the Arod haters. Heaven forbid a guy go in a slump for a few games.
The hook looks good tonight.
A-Rod has about $275 million reasons to not care about the off-field stuff for 3+ hours each night. I think he’s just in a little funk, he did have a real hot June, now he’s a little cool, but he’ll get hot again
I guess it’s fair to blame Jeter for not getting Gardner to third, but if Abreu still does what he did than the run wouldn’t have scored anyway.
And while I’m all for knocking how the team hits with RISP, tHey are facing Roy Halladay.
He makes a lot of hitters look bad.
Ok, now we have the .250 hitters coming up. Take some pitches Posada and Cano. Swinging away only helps Halladay.
And for the love of God, Yankees plesae stay away from 2nd base. Either stretch the double into a triple or stay at 1st.
I think the Yankees are afraid of 2nd base. Having a runner there is there kryptonite.
“Another difference between Torre and Girardi. No way Torre would have sat out Jorge. He would have put him behind the plate for the last 5 games even letting the Yankees lose every one.”
With TB’s running game, he might have sat him for at least one of those games, but probably not both. I’m sorry that Jorge is having shoulder problems, but the team shouldn’t have to suffer because of that. Jorge needs to accept that he is not going to throw out as many runners as Jose does.
BoSux losing to the [laughable] BO’s!
D’Rays losing 1-0 to tribe.
GO YANKS!
“And they are crediting Hank Steinbrener with moving Joba into the rotation…”
are you sure you arent listening to a rerun of Boomer and Carton in the morning?
If the divorce is bothering A-Rod, what’s bothering Jeter and Abreu? They’re both single.
How old is Halliday’s wife? 17? Geez!
I bet the conversation with little Natasha went something like this. When you see daddy you just keep saying to him Daddy PLEASE come home. I miss you daddy. I cry every night. PLEASE DADDY! PLEASE!!!…
roy halladay’s wife is HOT
I’m okay with working the count. The sooner Halladay is out of the game, likely, the better.
I’m sorry that Jorge is having shoulder problems, but the team shouldn’t have to suffer because of that. Jorge needs to accept that he is not going to throw out as many runners as Jose does.
Yep.
“We all know he can be a fragile man when it comes to emotions,”
Remember what he did last year after the Post published those photos of A-Rod going to the hotel room with the dancer?
I do – he had one of the best offensive seasons ever.
Please stop trying to put A-Rod on the couch – just watch baseball.
Farnn – I guess they didn’t hear about his 114 pitch outing?
Did Laura leave Jorge too?
“If the divorce is bothering A-Rod, what’s bothering Jeter and Abreu? They’re both single.”
Abreu has a girlfriend and if memory serves, he made it clear that he wasn’t going to be asking her to marry him. Maybe she got wind of that and is giving him grief. Jeter has so many girlfriends that he can’t concentrate on the game because he’s trying to keep all of their names and faces straight.
Can you tell that I’m reaching here?
…which isn’t to say a base whit would, you know, be really cool.
Halladay must really likes Canadia a lot to play for the BJs all this time
He has struck out 4 in a row now…
Laura – Say No to the Tampa Bay Goon Squad!
July 11th, 2008 at 7:30 pm
How old is Halliday’s wife? 17? Geez!
Maybe he’s Mormon? Sorry, couldn’t resist.
Problem is, when he’s on, working the count means a whole lot of 0-1 pitches.
How old is Halliday’s wife? 17? Geez!
Maybe ARod will adopt her!
the overpriced midle of the order SUCKS CLOWNS.. BUT BLAME IT ON GADNER OR MELKY BUT THE RICH GUYS SUCK.. STOP MAKING EXCUSES FOR THE CLOWNS….
BOttom line arod sucks, abreu the same etc.. Jeter has 4 damn HR’s but PETER make a crack about Melky……………
nice AB Robi!
Yankees’ batters look even more pathetic than usual today.
JoeT Guess not…
Holy cow! Robbie walks. Unreal.
4 strike outs in a row. Off to another great batting start.
Seriously, do the Yankee hitter know what the F the bat is for? I am beginning to think they do not. Maybe they should just start forfeiting their half of each inning. just take a break, get some, water, and then 10 minutes later go back out and play defense. About the reality of it.
Cano drew a freakin’ walk????
joba better have his game on…
wow. Betemit actually made contact. I’m shocked
Every wonder why a .273 hitter for Toronto, Boston, Texas, is better than our .290 hitters or even our .273 hitters.
Interesting.
Boy, the wife is a fountain of information.
Did anyone here know that the Chicago Cubs used to have their spring training facilities on Catalina Island?
I wonder what the Baseball Annies and Strip Clubs are like on Catalina.
The Yankees get a gift by not having to contend with Rios (infamous Yankee killer) and Wells and we still are the underdogs. Ugh!
stuart –
Please either mix some water in with your booze or sticnine.
Hysterics at the end of 1 1/2 innings are pathetic.
Doc is a pistol who specializes in complete games. Someone better do something.
Maybe TOR will trade Burnett before Sunday. Can we get that lucky?
If Halladay keeps this up, it’s going to be a long, long night.
Already we blew a man on second nobody out scoring opportunity.
In the “sad but true” category, that was Cano’s first walk since June 15th.
Wow, Scott Rolen is a rarity – an ugly baseball player.
JRYAnkees
Actually if he keeps this up it could be a pretty short night.
Joba better be dealing deep into the game especially if he gets no help.
Joba needs to figure out his put away pitch–no way with 1-2 count and 2 out should that runner reach.
wow way to speed up his bat
Ugh. Lucky hit.
Wonder if Girardi gives Joba 115+ tonite with the break coming up.
Posada can’t call a game to save his life. He must cost Yankee pitchers about an extra 25 pitches a game. He’s a liability unless he has a bat in his hand.
What do these guys know about “the Yankee way”? Shut up!
Needs to put hitters away. He’s wasting a lot of pitches.
too many pitches
Nothing ventured nothing gained on Eric Milton but Colon was too much of a risk?
wayy too many pitches for not having been in any real trouble… gotta get guys to put the ball in play within a couple of pitches
Perhaps Joba needs to treat each inning as if it’s the 8th inning. Maybe that will cut down on the pitch count.
Joba needs some quick innings, and they better be scoreless since it doesn’t look like the Yankees offense will do a lot tonight.
These 1-2 and 0-2 counts go to 3-2 way too much, even if eventually puts them away.
christ Joba – it’s freaking scutaro – time to get more efficient here. There’s no way that last out should take twice as many pitches as the first two outs.
ohh and FairyTek is back under .220
“Nothing ventured nothing gained on Eric Milton but Colon was too much of a risk?”
obviously. he is on the DL already, right?
At least Arod isn’t having the yips in the field. Give him credit for that much and hope the rest of the offense picks him up!
“Posada can’t call a game to save his life. He must cost Yankee pitchers about an extra 25 pitches a game. He’s a liability unless he has a bat in his hand.”
It doesn’t matter which finger Posada puts down, Joba never agrees with the pitch. Joba pretty much calls his own game, so if you want to blame somebody for Joba’s high pitch count, look no further than your own Joba.
0-2 on Overbay in the 1st and he calls for 2 straight fastballs. I know Joba shakes him off regularly but Jorge once punched El Duque in the face. Is it any wonder Joba is confused??? Jorge thinks he’s a catcher when all he’s ever been is a DH playing catcher on T.V.
A hit would be nice.
Exactly, EY. It’s one of the reasons he doesn’t go that deep into games. He wastes a bunch of pitches going from 1-2 to 3-2.
Oh boy 2 outs already, here’s comes another under-10-pitches inning…
that chopper might have been a tought play normally… but because the Jays know he’s not driving the ball anyway, they could afford to play the IF up a bit, and it actually looked rather routine.
No hitter through 3. Feels like the makings of a long weekend.
Pedro – you are 100% right! how many times do we see Joba shaking off his catcher. it’s constant!
4 pitches – 2 outs. Good job fellas.
Is Stuart in hysterics already?
My God.
I guess i’m thinking of someone else but I was pretty sure Jorge was behind the plate for a couple championships… give the guy a freaking break
Wrong Pedro, let the kid make his pitches. Jorge is so stubborn he has had problems from Moose to El Duque. He stinks behind the plate and has for years. Girardi is a catcher. You think he doesn’t see it???
Derek
Derek
Derek
This is just silly now. I thought Toronto was supposed to have the AAA line up tonight. Didn’t realize the Yankees had the AA line up out…
sux tied at 2, still batting in the 2nd
Rays down 1-0, bottom 3
“ohh and FairyTek is back under .220″
You mean All-Star Starter FairyTek? No wonder the G-Man is banished to make it rain over the ASG break.
BS – they should make voters pass a baseball iq test before the votes count.
Jeter with yet another pathetic hack at a pitch way outside.
does the upper part of gardners body rotate above the waist?
Yankees offense continue to flail away lifelessly…
10 pitches… no hits…. 5 strike outs.
At some point, do you think that this team will actually look like a real baseball team or just stay looking like a AA team.
Collectively, Jeter, Abreu, ARod, Posada look entirely overmatched. Lot of money being wasted to strike out and ground into DP’s.
Cabrera looks lost and Cano, well he is just Cano.
the yanks hitting is really hard to watch. Joba has to figure out how to throw less pitch’s…
Jeter looks like an all star for AAA… the guy has 4 HR’s for the yr.
Eh blame it on Melky…
“BS – they should make voters pass a baseball iq test before the votes count.”
Cano voters???
Oh great, another 0-2 hit.
Watching Joba pitch is absulotely torturous.
Looks like Halladay may toss a no-hitter!
joba,joba,joba
throws one of the hardest and STRAIGHEST fastball in the game
Can he turn the ball 90 degrees and use a two seamer?
And this is the Jays AAA lineup? Not good.
Red Sox have already tied the score.
Well, at least I have Halladay on 2 fo 4 FBB teams…
wtf? was that
girls softball?
Posada is a catcher right?
thought there was some conversation where he tried to clarify he was a catcher.
Really?
geez… i take back what i said – that was not good… gotta get a BIG strike out and a DP here because we are not scoring two runs off of Holliday
That was a really bad play by Posada. The Yanks are in trouble now.
This guy wont last 6 innings after this long inning. Hes gonna throw at least 25 pitches to get through this mess.
This is the guy who was complaining that he wasn’t catching. This is embarrassing.
Now we know why Posada hasn’t been catching a lot lately.
Keep Posada behind the plate. Why not. He’s been whining.
No “I” in team Jorge.
Train wreck.. Posada another overpriced sack of sh-t… blame it on Melky..
hell with talking to each other..
TRAIN WRECK……..WRECK…
our offense is so unclutch and they just suck….but let’s discuss melky for a couple of months..yeah the posada 4 yr $13 mill. is not a concern the melky at $460 per yr. is the problem.
good night morons.. Peter how about a crack about Melky since Jorge and derek and others are your boys……..
I love you Jorge but you’re in no position to catch right now. Molina should be catching.
Yeah and every pitcher preferred Girardi to Flaherty to Molina. I think Jorge is the leader in the clubhouse but he has always thought he is better than he is back there. Check the stats when he catches. He just missed a freaking fastball at the knees for christ’s sake. He’s terrible and the whole league knows he can’t throw any more. Wild pitch by Joba, hmmm, yeah he’s real comfortable. Yeah, I wasn’t all over this one. Keep talking guys. Nice play Jorge. He’s a mess. Girardi is a catcher!!! He knows what he’s doing. Jorge is grumbling in the clubhouse too boot.
there’s the big k – need that DP now
Vince- His fastball is NOT straight. Are yo uwatching the same pitcher?
“Cano voters???”
Did he make the team Fredo?
Brian and Joe,
Hell of a good team you put together here. They hit relentlessly and their fielding, you should tape it and sell it a fundamental tape for younsters.
Proud supporter of $200 million players.
wtf dont make posada catch the guy has problems in his shoulder and will have surgery in the offseason dont force him girardi two letters DH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Joba at 52 pitches.
i think this is about where i bail from LoHud for the game thread.
Guys don’t bust on posada. He was working on that throw before the game and will use it throwing a runner out at second base.
Somewhere Jenny Finch cringed on that throw.
Joba at 52 pitches because a selfish Jorge decided to cry and pout…
Anything Joba does to get out of jams is totally on Joba, not on the whiner behind the dish!
good call he was safe… gotta score to win anyway, but REALLY need to get out of this with only 1 run
Geez, some of you people…
Wow.
ANOTHER! 1-2 count that turns into a hit that turns into a run score.
He’d be lucky to get through 5 innings at this rate. I think I’m about done by now.
It’s time to rid of all these 100 pitches-in-4 innings losers like Kennedy, Hughes, and Joba.
I can’t blame Girardi. He did everything he could and finally had to give in to the error producing crybaby. That would be Jorge.
Wow, they’re playing horribly tonight.
First person who says he should have stayed in the bullpen gets the grand prize of a knee to their groin.
wild pitch, error, botched double play ball, and they get a big inning
I sense another team meeting… Sloppy baseball all around.
Game over. Not that it matters but that guy was out at third.
Where the hell were some of you whiners when they were winning?
Nowhere to to be seen.
Well 2-0. Looks like a 2 game losing streak and no chance to make up games against Tampa. But hey, they are still in the hunt for a playoff spot. Not sure in which league but what the hell.
No comment I see from the 10 dopes saying Posada is a good catcher. What a shocker. Posada calls for another fastball to Overbay who laced a fastball in the 1st inning on a 0-2 count. He’s terrible.
Joba does belong in the location, but he’s still got a lot to learn…and the rest of the team aren’t really making the learning process any easier either.
Joba at 60 pitches.
Hmm, what do we do?
1st and 3rd, 1 out, 0-0 game facing Halladay. You have the hitter at 1-2. Joba has missed over the plate going inside to lefties and the very same hitter got a hit on the pitch. Joba has a good curveball AND slider, and you NEED a strikeout. What do we call? A FASTBALL INSIDE.
This is why Posada is the dumbest catcher in baseball.
I’m hating Posada. Too bad he has to catch when Joba’s pitching.
They’ve basically hit one ball hard off him. The first hit this inning was like the last one, a ground ball with eyes. But that’s baseball sometimes.
As said before, Joba needs to learn to be economical with his pitches.
Can’t fault Posada for the calls. If you watch the game closely, you’ll see that he looks into the dugout right before Joba pitches. So it’s not all on him.
Hey Jorge, news flash. If you complain again, go to Tampa and collect your check. You stink and you can’t call a game or throw anybody out. Joba is afraid of you which makes him an ordinary pitcher and Joe G. knows it. You play 1st base or DH and if you don’t like it, the Yanks can lose 8-3 without you.
My sister use to catch for her HS softball team. She is worth $13 million. Think she should call Cashman.
She can’t hit as well as the Yankees, which is to say she won’t even swing the bat.
At least Tampa Bay looks like it’s coming back down to Earth. Doesn’t help us though when we continue to lose games.
Two points.
Right now, my main concern is that the Yankees don’t have a hit yet.
Second point–my issue with this game, aside from the being no hit thing, is the sloppy defense and Jorge’s game calling. If we played something that vaguely resembled defence, we’re out of that inning no worse than 1-0.
Every hit against Joba is in a two strike count. Not sure if what happens in the 0-2 count is Posada’s fault or Joba’s, but it is a problem.
Meanwhile, when your No. 3 hitter attempts to bunt, there is a serious problem.
anyone else wonder why joba throws fastballs IN THE ZONE on 0-2 1-2 counts? why doesnt he (or jorge) decide to throw a slider or curve in the dirt in those counts worse case its a ball. and when he throws 4 95 mph heaters in a row…a changeup would be a good pitch to thorw…jays already have 3 hits in 0-2 1-2 counts…brutal brutal pitching
game … thread … is … unravelling … must … escape … with .. sanity … must … click … mouse … must … shut … down … computer … abort … abort … ABORT !!!
“Where the hell were some of you whiners when they were winning?
Nowhere to to be seen.”
Angel – God Love you – I fought this same fight last night, but the trolls had their day. Oh well – I’d rather actually root for a win than wallow early on in a game.
I don’t get the troll/defeatist mentality – but it is an epidemic.
Imagine if the Jays had their good lineup in!
Jorge stinks right now.
I still think the Yankees will find a way to score. No way Halladay ends up with a no hitter tonight. Don’t know if the Yankees have 3 runs in them though.
Hey Posada has to be happy. Screw the team and screw winning. He’s a catcher dammit and that’s what he wants to do. Floppy eared crybaby.
There we go. Now I can go to sleep an not be despondent and only mildly depressed. Yay!
Hey there’s Alex. Hitting the same pitch he took with Gardner on second in the first.
alex
first thing he has done smart in a week
first pitch you see that looks good you hack at!
Thank God, we have a hit!
Hey look, first hit of the day from this team was by Arod, with lots of help from the Toronto defense.
I haven’t been around for a few games but that’s because I’ve been on vacation. I didn’t stay away because the Yankees were winning!
KJ are you serious?? Joba has a low 2 era for the year. OMG HE GAVE UP 2 RUNS!! calm down man he’s not holliday, he can’t throw a complete game shut out every single time out. Phil was hurt and will be just fine.. we’ve seen flashes of what he can do and give him a couple years to mature in the majors and he can be a top of the rotation guy
Damn. I wanted to see a no hitter.
Does it count if they get no hits after that luck shot by ARod?
I saw there was another Neil on here now, so I had to change the name to Neil K.
I understand voicing frustration. There’s nothing else to be done with sloppy play, but voice frustration – because its unacceptable. But some of these people with their venom, spite, tantrums and whining are another thing altogether.
“There we go. Now I can go to sleep an not be despondent and only mildly depressed. Yay”
Rebecca – could you either read your own tag line or amend it?
Yep, where are the complaints about first pitch hitting. Unfortunately, as happens all too often, he gets the hit with nobody on.
you guys hating on jorge are idiots. he’s had a bad game, but if you have watched this team for longer than the last month you should have a lot of respect for what he’s done and will continue to do for the team. competitive players want to play, it’s the case with jorge, jeter, mo, o’neill, and on down the line. you can’t fault him for that, if anyone, girardi would be responsible for the fact that jorge is in there.
TK: Chill. It was a joke
Warning track power
You build teams around high end starters like Roy Halliday. Too bad Toronto hasn’t done it. Too bad the Yankees don’t have a Roy Halliday.
Georgie boy, I hope you are happy. I know I am because it’s time to go out to dinner. I don’t have to watch him destroy Joba’s confidence any more. Go Yanks. I still smell a win for some strange reason. Peace Yankee fans.
this game is over.
PBL I will hate on anyone who is behind the plate and can’t throw for crap but whines about not being in there. The guy got to DH and play first. Enough.
Prediction – Kevin Long is fired at the break. This team is listless at the plate. What happened to working the count?
I just can’t hate on Jorge. Was that frustrating? Yes. But I can’t believe some of the stuff I just read on here about hating him. Pitiful.
18 pitches for Joba this inning. 2 hits, 1 run
2 pitches down the middle, no swing. A pitch over his head, he swings. Terrible game so far for Jorge.
“Prediction – Kevin Long is fired at the break. This team is listless at the plate. What happened to working the count?”
I doubt it. Plus it’s not his fault the guys aren’t executing when they get up at the plate.
mark, i wasn’t saying anything about your right to hate on him
It is interesting to see that many of the same folks who wanted Posada signed at any cost are now so down on him.
It was a bad contract for four years it will be a drag on the Yankee team. If he can not catch, his offense does not justify him to be 1B or DH. When Jeter’s contract comes up Yankees will be faced with the same dilemma.
In that respect, Sox do a good job. They said bye to both Pedro and Damon once they realized their demands are outrageous. Yanks should do the same if they want to get to WS again in the near future.
St. Louis beating Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh 5-0 eary on. Typical.
also, h-a-l-l-a-d-a-y
Consider me chilled Reb.
Ahhh!
Much better
PJH
July 11th, 2008 at 8:01 pm
Vince- His fastball is NOT straight. Are you watching the same pitcher?
yes and i thought it had movement before but his last couple outings it just looked straight
Gameday confirms this………..Halladays fastball moves 8-9″
Jobas moves……….on average about 4″
Ah.. must be about time for the fire Kevin Long posts.
I’m pretty sure it isn’t Kevin Long’s fault that the Yankees can’t hit with RISP. He can show them all the video and scouting reports he wants, but he isn’t the one mailing it in at the plate on a daily basis.
Gameday isn’t always accurate though, Vince.
come on Joba!
And there we get more two sided comments from Sir Pete. Rips Girardi for ripping the players, then rips him for supporting them.
Well done Sir Pete. A more hypocritical writer we have yet to see.
Guys, blame Girardi, not Posada. He is a player who obviously likes to play his first position. That’s not selfish, it is what every player thinks and wants. If Jorge is not ready to catch, Girardi should not let him….
But it is as always with Girardi. When something is in the media which imply some of his potential actions, he almost always does exactly that.
Pete, you’re the best, please write that it would be a good idea to move the Big G to third base in order to sit A-Rod for a game. I bet, it would happen tomorrow.
St. Louis beating Pittsburgh at Pittsburgh 5-0 eary on. Typical.
A good team beating a bad team, something we forgot how to do a long time ago.
joba will probably be done by the 5th inning.
“In that respect, Sox do a good job.”
BBFan –
2 things – Are you aware of Varitek’s #’s this year? (not pretty)
Who would have caught every day for the Yanks?
Team needs a Vitimin B12 shot in the ass….
Earth to Joba, more innings like this one.
Laura,
Someone has to pay the price for the terrible first half (given expectations and the payroll that is). The Stein’ Bros. will make a move even if Cashman won’t.
Nice economical inning by Joba.
“What happened to working the count?”
Usually better to point that out when the only hit they have didn’t happen on the first pitch of the AB.
Girardi told Mike and the Mad Dog that Maholm “had real good stuff” last night. Joe has been saying that a lot lately about every pitcher the Yankees face whether it is Scott Feldman or Roy Halladay or Oliver Perez or Tim Wakefield. The fact of the matter is Joe needs to change something up and that would start with the lineup. Bobby Abreu can’t be hitting third in the order when he is just over .270 and Brett Gardner can’t be hitting leadoff when he can’t get the ball out of the infield. I’m glad the kid can steal bases, but unless he is just in the type of slump that Dustin Pedroia started his career off with Boston then there is no reason he should be receiving the most at bats a game in the Yankees order.
i agree gameday isn’t always right
i just checked on there to see if it was my eyes deceiving me
i still think it looks pretty straight
and I’m thinking that lack of movement and 95-97 mph is very hittable by major leaguers
4 pitches. 2 outs. *facepalm*
I think we’re staring at a CG Shut-out by Halladay tonight. Eww.
You Know who you are – Read my post – it said “Prediction”.
“Pete, you’re the best, please write that it would be a good idea to move the Big G to third base in order to sit A-Rod for a game. I bet, it would happen tomorrow.”
LOL, if you say so.
ah betemit… giving halladay a nice cooling fan job.
i love bobby abreu but………. he does not make that play
I know it’s Roy Halladay…but geez…
7 pitches in that inning by doc. 67 through 5…yup.
Well you might be right, Vince. I was just hoping you weren’t taking JUST gamedays word for it, lol.
Does Cano have an actual approach at the plate??? I’m fairly sure the answer is no, which is actually a tribute to his talent. If we could combine Cano’s physical skills with Gardner’s approach, you have a player and a half. Of course if you had Gardner’s physical skills and Cano’s approach, you’d have a purse snatcher who can outrun the cops.
you know what we should do – I forgot who it was (before my time) but do the old put 9 names in a hat and pick them out 1 by 1 and use that as the order…. shake things up and see what happens
Pat, do you watch baseball?
Well, another lost game. Through 5 and still look like crap.
Missing opportunities to pick up games on Boston and Tampa.
so here is question, if you make 13million or more, do you really care if you win or lose a game? I know you care about your personal stats, but your contract is guaranteed, so does it really matter?
This is liking watching paint dry.
Vince Black Show –
Joba’s 4 seamer (the 96-98-100 mph fastball) does not have a lot of movement to it.
His 2 seamer (92-94 mph fastball) does.
This is not something to be astounded by – in order to get more movement on the pitch, you have to sacrifice velocity due to different grips and pressures on the ball.
Joba is going to be successful because he is developing 4 major league pitches. FOUR major league pitches. That’s insane.
You will never see him survive by throwing 90% 4 seam fastballs like a Josh Beckett can.
Joba needs to get this next out quickly and get off the field.
Peter with his excuse for Jorge.. Yeah Jorge is one of Peters guys.
THE YANKS SUCK. They are losing to a team of scrubs without there 2 best offesnive players by far. Joba should watch Halladay and learn about limiting his pitch’s..
the yanks jsut suck.. the OBP is terrible, the AB’s stink, the rich guys suck…
Betemis has a 275 obp, Cano about 300, jeter 340, abreu is so soft any bozo who wants him back are the same bozos that want Giambi back…
it should be 1 zip..
halladay is looking like a CG tonight against this pathetic pathetic offense…..
its gotten to the point were im bored watching this team. they dont care and dont want to try..
they should be no-hit.. the season has been embarrassing already.. why not add salt to the wound
I’ve wanted to slap these RogersNet comentators since the fist pitch, lol.
Fredo- Cano did have a walk tonight.
The Rays are finally turning into the Devil Rays and the Yankees just run in place.
“Well, another lost game. Through 5 and still look like crap.
Missing opportunities to pick up games on Boston and Tampa.
so here is question, if you make 13million or more, do you really care if you win or lose a game? I know you care about your personal stats, but your contract is guaranteed, so does it really matter?”
It’s Halladay. What did you expect – 20 hits and 20 runs? The d00d’s damn good 9 times out of 10.
And the ‘the players don’t care’ BS just makes you look stupid.
Another great inning by Joba that came a couple innings too late. More like this one and last one, Joba. Looks like he’ll go at least 6 now.
those innings a little better for you KJ?? kid looks pretty good
“Well, another lost game. Through 5 and still look like crap.”
My recommendation to you is to stop watching baseball. There is half a game to go and you’ve quit. Please spare us your nonsense comments.
The Yankees are a 500 ball club.. Come on i have been saying this for weeks. We got hot we got cold that is a direct reprsentation of a 500 ball club
Joe Girardi’s explanation for the offense before the game? “It just happens sometimes.â€
Girardi is a friggin idiot. Apparently he has missed the first 70 games of this crap.
Such a poor ass choice for a manager.
Hey guys, I have a question. Who is the final authority on the contracts, Cashman or Steinbrenner(s)? The reason I ask is that if Cash is responsible for all these long term bloated contracts then he does need to accept responsibility for this mess. Whether he should be fired for it is debateable. If it’s the Steins, then they need to accept responsibility. Of course, unfortunately for us, they can’t be fired. There are a lot of these high priced vets we would all like to see gone, but Cash can’t do it because he, or the Steins, had them sign no-trade contracts for too many years at too big a price. So, who gave the go-ahead on these contracts?
“Joba is going to be successful because he is developing 4 major league pitches. FOUR major league pitches. That’s insane.”
Correction. FIVE major league pitches. Didn’t split out the 4 seamer and 2 seamers.
Hey folks, just got home. So I’m guessing the consensus here is that the Yanks are about to break through and take over this game?
Stuart, Amen brother. Pathetic offense.
I say flip the order and put Moose as the DH.
Fairy tek singled somehow… ended up scoring (after a double and then a ground out) 3-2 Sux
Indians now lead 3-0 over the Rays
Someone else
I agree i just wish he would throw more of the two seam variety
and maybe keep em off balance with a change-up
If I’m facing Chamberlain I’m looking fastball,fastball,fastball
cano and cabrera nad betemits approach at the plate is not to think and just swing at everything as soon as possible…
this is painfull.. another throwaway game.. I think they have thrown away about 10 games this yr. with there “high powered offense” with such superstars as the captain, arod, bobby aboo, jorge, giambino, and etc.. Man this team must have alot of runs scored on the yr.? Oh I am wrong they are about 13th in runs score, I guess $200 mill. does not get you much anymore…
BoSux just took the lead. Ewww. Do we ever catch a break?
Joba’s good for 2 more if he keeps this up. Halladay is on 5 days rest and not pitching again for a week plus. He’ll go all night.
Go Joba!
Now if only they can score a run or two…
We need help from the rally monkey:
http://i173.photobucket.com/al.....Monkey.jpg
The BoSox took the lead because they are playing a bad team. That is what good teams do.
Meanwhile Brett “The Savior” just had another stellar performance at the plate.
Our problem is our best player is a whore and is a chump when it comes to the big situations and has not once has he taking the team on his back this season..
Its the a-rod curse
Honestly, it should be a mandatory that in order to have your keyboard plugged in, you need to take all your meds first.
Stuart,
I thought you were leaving? Ya big spazz.
“2 things – Are you aware of Varitek’s #’s this year? (not pretty)
Who would have caught every day for the Yanks?”
Sox got value out of Veritek’s contract? Is it not the last year of his contract….They won a WS since he was signed. See how Sox will handle it when his contract is up.
By no means I was saying that Yanks should not have singed Posada. They should have signed him to a reasonable contract. They should have never budged from three years and $40 mil. If he did not sign then they would have traded for somebody else.
Exactly, SE.
Its Roy Halliday, hardly some scrub pitcher.
I love the “yankees suck chants, by fans of a team that is in the cellar. Irony at its finest.
Jeter gets the ball out of the infield like 33% of the time…..
what happened to him???
He is declining like the rest of the SUPERstars……Arod has 50 RBI’s, abreu 59…. This team cannot score…..
watch the tone of the blog change when a-rod tied it up
The BoSox took the lead because they are playing a bad team. That is what good teams do.
So what is the Yankees excuse? First Pittsburgh and Toronto.
Maybe Alex can pick up the team right here.
Now would be a great time to have an A-Bomb from A-Rod..
The funny thing about Cone’s growl is that he can do it on vowel sounds. “Buuuust it up”
“He’ll go all night.”
Halladay is a hell of a pitcher – I’m not happy he is dealing tonight but he will have more CG’s than most teams this year.
Arod strikes out again.
Comon A-Rod, he’s not in scoring position, you can get a hit now.
What a waste, yet again. This offense is a joke. We have scored 20 runs in the last 7 games and 6 innings.
slide head first please… it’s quicker and you can move around a tag… sliding feet first just slows you down
For the love of God himself, Stuart – get a fracking grip!!!
I think Alex is pressing a little bit. He’s all around the area, but not actually there—like where there’s a target and you keep getting the circle outside of the bullseye but not the bullseye itself.
the Jays are 4 games behind the yanks ANgel.. You act like the Yanks are some powerhouse.. The Yanks were a powerhouse about 8 yrs ago.. This is 2008 and this team just SUCKS…
Sorry the facts are there offense sucks, defense sucks, and there pirching is decent……
Did anybody see Barajas just show up Abreu with his fist pump after throwing him out?
Yanks are 5-36 when behind after 6 innings.
Bobby was safe. Another blown call by the umps. What’s that make for this year so far? 1 million?
Damn..
“By no means I was saying that Yanks should not have singed Posada. They should have signed him to a reasonable contract. They should have never budged from three years and $40 mil. If he did not sign then they would have traded for somebody else.”
I’d agree they suckered the Yanks into that 4th year by saying he was going to have lunch w/ Minaya. However, you can’t anticpate the shoulder injury and the notion you can easily trade for a catcher is a misguided one.
At least A-Rod gets a clean count to leadoff the 7th.
2 runs before 9 outs?
Its amazing how far this offense has fallen. I know they are facing Doc Halladay tonite, but the quality of the at bats is so poor. How many times tonite have they not been able to finish the promo after the commercial before the yankees have made an out. How about trying the work the pitcher a little bit?
angel again live in your fantasy land the Jays are about 4 games behind the powerful Yanks………
Tampa is on the verge of a 5 game losing streak, and guess what? We will have gained a grand total of 2.5 games during that 5 game losing streak, because we can’t beat 5th place teams like Pittsburgh and Toronto.
Are the Rays in the midst of el foldo ? They’re enroute to their 5th consecutive loss and the Yankees haven’t capitalized. Good teams take advantage of such situations.
If nothing else, you have ot be impressed with Joba’s response to the 3rd inning. He’s been superb since.
“Joe Girardi’s explanation for the offense before the game? ‘It just happens sometimes.’”
I agree with you Pete. Torre would have intricately broken down every flaw with this team, delving into every aspect of why we are not hitting, including an explanation of the physics behind swinging the bat.
Dang it
Re husbands seeing their kids: speaking as a woman, a lot of women confuse their own issues with the husband with the need of children to see their father. Interfering with a child’s relationship with his father is dead wrong, just like fighting in front of the children or disparaging one’s spouse to the child. For all the women who want to use the children as a weapon to punish their husbands or address their grievances with him, remember: he’s their father, so when you trash him, the child receives it as a tacit condemnation of him or her. Children hold it against parents who deprive them of the love and parenting of the other parent. In the absence of an issue of abuse or endangerment, it’s selfish, vindictive and cruel to the child for either parent to interfere with the relationship of the child to the other parent in order to punish that parent. Parents who avoid the temptation to engage this type of self-serving gamesmanship in the midst of a marital dispute are to be commended.
4-3 O’s back on top
4-0 Indians
gotta come back tonight, somehow.. someway.. gotta pick up a game
Dude, Joba, it’s Barajas. Not Vernon Wells.
…
With Halladay on, winning this game just went from hard to impossible.
EQ10 it is more then Doc Halladay last night they were facing Maholm, etc.
Joba is not there yet.. He needs to learn to throw less pitch’s and just gave up a jack to a scrub.. I take that back on the Yanks Barajas might hit 4th in our order……
4-3 O’s. Roberts a one man wrecking crew up there tonite.
” Joba’s 4 seamer (the 96-98-100 mph fastball) does not have a lot of movement to it.”
shilling lived by a straight 4 seam fastball he located extremely well.
if joba can locate his fastball , he doesn’t need movement on it.
“Sox got value out of Veritek’s contract? Is it not the last year of his contract….They won a WS since he was signed. See how Sox will handle it when his contract is up.”
BBFan – The BoSux have won despite Tek, not because of him
2006 – /281
2007 – /238
2007 – /255
2008 – /227
pretty crappy imho.
ouch!!!!
Game Set and match.
Welcome to 4th place and a 5 game losing streak. Great way to go into the break.
But hey it happens.
The Yankees should be embarrassed. Toronto is running out half a AAA lineup and have scored 3 runs off Joba, and with our millionaires and former “All Stars” we have 1 hit.
no way we can win this game now – they surpassed our 2 run allowance!!
You sit there, making post after post about how unastute other fans are and calling other people brain surgeons sarcastically – when you subject us to post after post of this kind of childish nonsense and hysterical tantrums?
Unreal.
Rod Barajas? Seriously, Joba.
Joba’s looked flat-out nasty in the game…except when he hasn’t.
Quality start ought to be good enough, except this lineup might lose a slugfest to AA Trenton.
No one has answered my question:
Who is responsible for this mess, in your opinion, Cash or the Steins?
LOL. Jaba Chambermaid givin’ it up to a lineup without Rios, Wells or Hill. How much is your payroll, again ? $220 million ? LOL.
West Coast
I do watch baseball. Working the count is great but when you are facing a guy like Halladay, who walks less than 2 batters a game and already has 6 complete games this year, you swing whenever you think you get a pitch you can drive.
They should be more patient at the plate against most pitchers but Halladay is a different story. On most nights I would say the same thing you did. Not tonight.
It just seems like they don’t grind out at-bats anymore. Any pitcher with half way decent stuff seems to dominate them. I understand that we have injuries to Matsui and Damon, but this was going on pre-injuries. Regardless of how the rest of the season goes, this team needs to re-evaluate their offense in the offseason. This is at-least the third time tonite that we have made an out on 1 pitch. Pretty lame.
Earth to Yankees offense . . . come in Yankees offense . . .
7 outs from another loss.
2 pitches, 2 outs. Are we even trying?
That was very quick. 2 pitch 2 outs. Think Doc can get a 3-pitch inning?
Can our announcers actually blame the offense rather than extolling the virtues of the shutdown-pitcher du jour? I swear, it doesn’t matter if it’s some scrub from AA or Halladay, it’s always the pitcher shutting them down, and no mention of the putrid offense.
This inning is driving me insane.
Sometimes it feels like the Yankees won’t score any more runs. I don’t mean in the game, I mean in the season.
Bluto… tell me about 92-93.. good years.. anything since? no?
I want to be optimistic about this game, somehow, but there is utterly nothing going on that would make me feel optimistic. The Yankees had an AAA line up out last night and still managed to leave the seventh tied.
They are playing awful baseball tonight. It’s like they’re not even trying. I know Halladay’s good, and all, but an offense that scored 960 runs last year should not be getting one hit.
This Yanks need a lot of help!!!
And this is the reason why you have to beat Paul Maholm and the Pittsburgh Pirates
6 pitches for Doc that inning. Way to put up a fight. $220 million ! LOL !
who here thinks the 2008 yankees can come back from a 3 run deficit?
Two words…
six pitches!
I can’t believe the Yankees are trying all that hard. I just find it hard to believe this is the best they can do. I know they suck, but not that much.
6 pitches?
very economical……..damn i just sounded like Michael Kay
time to break out the scotch
Pathetic.
I don’t care if this is Roy Halladay. 6 pitch inning, with 2 first pitch outs from our supposed “best hitters.” That’s pathetic.
Joba hasn’t been bad, but it’s hard to pitch well knowing your team will score you zero runs, guaranteed. He’s going to make mistkaes because he knows he has to be perfect and can’t just let it go.
This is ALL on the offense. Stop saying “they’ll hit eventually.” News flash. It’s JULY 11TH, and guess what, we are MIDDLE OF THE PACK OFFENSIVELY. Maybe they are what they are? MEDIOCRE.
6 outs from a 1H CG SO.
I hope Hank says something about this team again tomorrow. Maybe that will get the offense going again, maybe.
The same thing happened last nite. After Veras gave up the homerun, the next inning Posada and Robbie swung at the first pitch. Two pitches, two outs. You can’t have big time rally unless there are men on base. Yes, Halladay is pounding the zone, but the approach is really lacking. Its hard to watch after what the yankees used to be like.
4-3 O’s. Roberts a one man wrecking crew up there tonite.
Funny, Yankees have a 20 man wrecking crew, 8 of which are hitting tonight.
Who cares that Richie Sexson is available. What this team needs is Barry Bonds. Frankly I would not care if he played right. It’s not a total downgrade defensively. Abreu is lazy and maybe he got the big hit the other night but other than that he contributes nothing.
“No one has answered my question:
Who is responsible for this mess, in your opinion, Cash or the Steins?”
I’m not sure even the likes of a Yankee-hater like Mike Lupica could have seen this offense being a bigger concern than the pitching staff.
Who would have thought after last year that they was any need for a big bat? Especially with Giambi coming back off a dreadful season and producing consistently?
This could be a no-hitter. A-Rod’s ball should have been caught.
I don’t know what to say about this offense right now. Joba had a decent start, but it’s just another in a string of wasted decent ouutings by our pitchers that will go for a loss. It’s hard to score when you are using 2 AAA players in Gardner and Melky, Cano who swings at the first pitch 90% of the time, Posada who has something clearly wrong with him, and 2 players who were hitting over .300 on the DL.
At least this game will be over quickly. You can always count on that with Halladay on the mound.
And Joba works damn quickly himself.
In the past month this team has gone 1-2 against Texas, Pittsburgh, and Cincy as well as 2-2 vs the Mets. This is hardly something new.
EY – I was just thinking the exact same thing – hopefully Hank says something and we put up 20 something over the next 2 games before the break
Who would’ve thought with a pitching staff with names like Ponson, Rasner, Traber, Veras, Farnsworth, Robertson, Giese, Hawkins, Ramirez etc. that the offense would be the major problem
I think Joba’s pissed.
who here thinks the 2008 yankees can come back from a 3 run deficit?
Not a chance in hell. In fact, an ice cube in hell stands a better chance of not melting than the New York Quitters do of scoring 3 runs.
“The BoSux have won despite Tek, not because of him
2006 – /281
2007 – /238
2007 – /255
2008 – /227
pretty crappy imho.”
You can call it crappy, but that is not how the rest of people in the game see it. He is a good defensive catcher and calls a very good game. You can not say that about Posada though he is a better offensive player. Again, once he is not a catcher, his offense is not good enough to be 1B or DH.
this offense is comical right now..
Do you think that Bobby Abreu or Melky Cabrera or Robinson Cano cares what Hank Steinbrenner has to say?
Tonight’s post game conference will go something like the sailor on the Titanic said, ” There’s nothing wrong, that’s just the tide coming in. It’ll go out later “.
Yeah … sure.
ROBBIE!
WHAT WAS THAT!?!??!?!
Shame!
I think a lot of you need to realize the fact that we have a very, very good bullpen. Just because it isn’t made up of “dependable” veterans and known quantities doesn’t detract from their outstanding body of work. We could use a shutdown lefty. But they don’t grow on trees. Cash is probably working on it in any case.
Oh for crying out loud…
Yankees Chick…weren’t you the one who compared Torre’s contract offer to getting raped? Yeah, shut it.
LOL ! Cano. 220 million ! Money well spent.
I can’t believe he’s taking Joba out. Now he can’t get the win!
Hey, remember, its only 93 games, the offense will come around. If we get to game 185 or 225 and the Yankees are still not hitting, then there might be a problem.
UNBELIEVABLE CANO
regarding the trade deadline – in the words of Jim Cramer -
SELL SELL SELL.
Get rid of Abreu, try to unload Giambi and Farnsworth to contenders.
what the hell was that Robbie..
why take joba out??
he just struck the first 2 guys out and got the 3rd one to pop out… if cano could see
I understand this move. It just had better work out.
Joba’s at 108 pitches. I think they want him around 110 max. Which is reasonable for a young pitcher with his build.
Billy Traber who has no place in the majors is now in.
Everyone should be for sale on this team!!!
This isn’t quite as bad as most games lately. At least the guy they are making look like a Cy Young pitcher…. actually is one.
These guys should be ashamed. In the bottom half of the league in hitting. Everyone who follows them is amazed if they score more than two runs. And….these hitters are being paid HOW MUCH?????
I would start sitting these so-called “superstars”. If they are tired (from what?), or just need to refocus (and actually EARN their starting jobs?), they need to sit.
This is sad.
joba just cant pitch 7 innings can he? cano made sure of that
Ron said:
“I’m not sure even the likes of a Yankee-hater like Mike Lupica could have seen this offense being a bigger concern than the pitching staff.”
Thanks for your input. You’re right, who could have seen this coming, I certainly didn’t. However, giving these big no-trade contracts to aging veterans is not very forward thinking, if you know what I mean. Was this Cashman pushing the Steins or was it the Steins pushing the Cash, you know, “sign em they sell tickets!” What do the rest of you think?
ROBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBBIE CANO DON’T YA KNOW
Think Joba should have told Joe when he came to get him. “Coach, nice offense that you put behind me. Now, GFY”
This offense is Abysmal. Players have no heart and they’re getting paid 220 million for plays like that.
When Wang went down with injury, who’d think that our biggest problem is the offense…
I was surprised when the 22 year old Joba didn’t crumble in the 3rd inning when everything else was crumbling around him. The defense, the offense, everything. It’s almost hard to believe that he wasn’t effected by such awful play on both sides. Then to top his night off, he gets another dose of awful defense, and still doesn’t seem effected. Lots of props to him.
The problem with the offense is that for some reason, all the bats want to do is swing on the 1st pitch. If we would take some pitches, work the counts, we would get more pitches that we can hit. We need to take pitches, to get on, and hopefully get some pitches. If we work the counts in the the 8th and 9th, we can hopefully get on with walks, and start to see some hits. It would also help if we see some hit and runs, to take out the possibility of a double play.
Why did we just sign Eric Milton, can we get any more of a pointless signing? Believe me, Cashman isnt stupid enough to sign the bum named Richie Sexson.
Joba just continues to get better and better. He’s a rookie starter with only a few starts in the majors and you can see he’s got the stuff and knows what he’s doing. Three runs should not be an insurmountable lead. (And the fielders are not having their finest night either.) They’ll probably lose this one due to the matchup and the rancid offense, but Yankee fans should be very happy that this guy is on our team. And as to the offense, Cone and “Singy” just confirmed (a) Joba is already a STUD and (2) it’s hard to win when your team’s not hitting. Or fielding lol.
If we’re gonna kill Cano for first pitch swinging, don’t forget A-Rod. He’s been doing it all year – 3 out of 4 times tonight, he’s swung at the first pitch.
Traber looks awful even when he succeeds.
Joba had a nice line. No walks – that’s what we had been hoping for from him. Gotta look at the good things.
I think Girardi would say to Joba.”We have a bad offense but there’s are worse”.
Well, it worked. Traber got an out in a moderately-important spot. That’s semi-encouraging. It was Joe Inglett, but I’ll take what I can get.
I keep trying to hope for a stunning rally. But I just can’t see it happening. I had a feeling we’d rally and win the last Boston game. Not so much this time.
michael k(not that one)
Hey, remember, its only 93 games, the offense will come around. If we get to game 185 or 225 and the Yankees are still not hitting, then there might be a problem.
now that’s funny!!!!
Thanks
i needed that
6 more outs to go and then I can get back to work. I like these quick games where the Yankees pitching is dominant and the offense gives the pitcher run support.
They go quick and are really enjoyable.
Wait. Joba struck out nine? Wow. At least he showed up to play tonight.
The disappearance of the offense is astounding. It was likely they wouldn’t repeat last year’s numbers–last year was one for the ages–but there is no logical reason they should have fallen off this much.
I give you that Alex’s injury hurt, and Jorge not having a career year (as well as missing considerable time) also hurt, but they’re back now, and the offense should have picked it up by now.
Of course, last year, we didn’t get hot till after the all star break, but even so, it wasn’t like this.
If the Yankees can solve their offensive problems, they’ll make a run at it. The starting pitching is adequate enough and if Moose doesn’t get comeback player of the year I’ll be upset. The bullpen has turned into some sort of miracle.
We addressed our weaknesses, but never addressed our strengths.
The Yankees are not and will never be sellers at the deadline. We all know what they will do, small moves that marginally help the team. There are no saviors on the way here.
As for tonight, you could blame it on facing the best pitcher in the game, but that argument loses value when they they get shut down by the Maholm’s and Feldman’s of the world. This team is a disaster right now.
I just can’t get past these uniforms.
damn….they’re just rubbing it in their faces now
Oh now they’re just showing off. That’s sad.
“Thanks for your input. You’re right, who could have seen this coming, I certainly didn’t. However, giving these big no-trade contracts to aging veterans is not very forward thinking, if you know what I mean. Was this Cashman pushing the Steins or was it the Steins pushing the Cash, you know, “sign em they sell tickets!†What do the rest of you think?”
Giambi was unquestionably a Steinbrenner move. And it was stupid to give a guy with that kind of body a seven-year deal.
Christ almighty. Two outs already.
This is just sad.
ROBINSON CANNOT
if this was a no-hitter (could/should be) that would be top ten #1
If we look at it from the perspective of Joba becoming a starter, then this game has been fairly constructive considering that he gave up no walks and pitched 7th innings (if it weren’t for Robbie’s poor defense).
Is it time for another team meeting?
There are no words to describe what this team is doing to itself. We have had plenty of opportunities to make up some ground on the teams in front of us and we continually blow game after game.
Not sure how much longer this game can stay in contention with an offense this ridiculous.
Now that was a freakin’ good play.
So with wins the past 2 nights the Yankees could be only 4.5 back instead of 4th place.
Hope the Yankees’ hitters are enjoying their jog from home to first.
“You can call it crappy, but that is not how the rest of people in the game see it.”
Um, yeah I call it crappy sub mendoza line crappy.
I am impressed that you can divine the collective opinion of everyone except for me.
Shouldn’t you call yourself RSFan?
wow…nice hustle betemit. way to get thrown out as the ball is thrown around the infield and then to first.
it is unbelievable how many things like this sum up the season so far
coMPLETE DISGRACE
Not sure how much longer this *team* can stay in contention…
6 pitch at-bat! Good boy, Melky! Good, good!
3 very very quick outs from CGSO one-hitter.
Joba pitched very well tonight. It’s a quality start and he’s an ace in the making. Halladay was Halladay, but this offense should be capable of putting up more than 2 baserunners. Disgraceful.
There is your positive for the night and for all of you who said this sucky ass offense would turn around
4 pitches = 2 outs.
then another K for Halladay.
If the Yankees are good, they won’t let him exceed 100 pitches tonight.
They gave Posada a big extension because they had nothing to replace him. And his bat can carry his weight at 1st or as a DH IF the rest of the lineup is strong, and the Yankees get prime production from places like 3rd base. I can’t argue with that.
The deals they gave to Matsui and Damon, while too long (everybody knew that), have given good returns by post-Dynasty Yankee era standards.
Abreu was a shrewd trade, and picking up his option seemed like the right move at the time.
Jeter’s horrendously overpaid, but he’s Derek Jeter, and…he’s Derek Jeter.
Cano’s deal was about eliminating arbitration, and the two option years made the move particularly smart.
So that’s my two cents.
THAT PLAY DESERVES SOMEONE TO GET HIT IN THE RIBS
No team meeting the night before Rasner pitches.
They, once again, have barely made an effort to work the count or even make Halladay sweat. As usual, they had him on the ropes early with Gardner on 2nd and no outs. And of course, as usual, he gets stranded at 2nd, not even moving from the bag the entire inning.
This team is a team of quitters. As soon as they fall behind by more than 1 run, it’s over. They help the pitcher by swinging at the first pitch out of the zone and grounding out weakly and barely make him work. The offense is terrible, this is NOT a fluke. This team just has no heart, no fire, no grit.
Toronto, running out mostly bench players, scored 3 runs off Joba Chamberlain. Us, with all stars, have 1 hit and no runs. Joba Chamberlain, as a starter, has a lower ERA so far than Halladay. What excuse do our guys have?
I just got in. Wow, we can’t even take the smurfs????
“Hey folks, just got home. So I’m guessing the consensus here is that the Yanks are about to break through and take over this game?”
Nick, that post pretty much made my night. You’re the funniest guy here.
I could undestand the Yankees offense being crappy.
But this is Roy Hallady,a TRue Ace.Of course he was gonna beat on this team.What you guys expect the Yankees to get 5 runs.
BUt hey people actually thought Joba was gonna beat Hallady.Crazy.
……….and the hits just keep on coming
Oh ugh!
To Insert Starting Pitcher Name Here:
Thanks for the quality start, but we decided to take a snooze this afternoon and forgot to wake up. Try again in five days and we’ll see if we can’t get two hits next time.
Have a great night,
From Yankee Offense.
now the announcers will kvell over Halladay instead of saying what is the truth the Yanks are on the all star break already..
they are just terrible…….
And whoever it was yesterday who hoped Joba would throw a shutout because that’s the only way the Yankees would be able to win: sad but oh so true.
See what I mean? I mean, Halladay’s great, but you’d think there might be some mention of this being the 80th time the Yankees have been held to 3 or fewer runs. But no, it’s just the good pitcher.
Halladay’s ERA is not 0.00. It’s 2.70. And, hypothetically, he’s faced offenses much worse than this sorry excuse for a batting order.
To the people thinking that this teams has no chance of making the playoffs now- You are wrong! And stop saying these guys suck. If they suck, then they wouldnt be in the majors. And if you are one of those people, you are just another person who probably doesnt know anything, and watches ESPN all the time, and has man crushes on John Kruk, Steve Phillips, Jon Miller and Joe Morgan, 4 of the stupidest people I have ever heard analyze baseball.
If we lose this game, its not like the world is over, the Rays are struggling also. I have all the belief in the world that we will still make the playoffs, and hopefully bring home number 27.
what happened to the grind-it-out at-bats? what happened to working the count?
nobody on this team does this anymore. not a single one.
Not taking away anything from Hallady b/c he is a good pitcher…but what he is doing against the Yanks really isn’t that impressive considering most other pitchers are doing the same thing against this.
looking as though this will be game #32 they are held to under 2 runs. wonder what Girardi will say next?
Ha ha ha.
5-0
Game over. Enjoy your weekend guys.
Why is Billy Traber still on this team ?
Red Sox losing. Rays losing.
Too bad.
Jorge stinks. Tough if you don’t like me saying it. His babyish attitude stinks more since he can’t throw for dirt and makes games even worse.
Halladay usually has our number. Nothing new. We just have to get the other games and hope that the Rays and Red Sox lose.
I never, ever want to see Billy Traber again. Get his sucky ass off of my baseball team.
Rubin
July 11th, 2008 at 9:12 pm
To the people thinking that this teams has no chance of making the playoffs now- You are wrong! And stop saying these guys suck. If they suck, then they wouldnt be in the majors. And if you are one of those people, you are just another person who probably doesnt know anything, and watches ESPN all the time, and has man crushes on John Kruk, Steve Phillips, Jon Miller and Joe Morgan, 4 of the stupidest people I have ever heard analyze baseball.
If we lose this game, its not like the world is over, the Rays are struggling also. I have all the belief in the world that we will still make the playoffs, and hopefully bring home number 27.
Dude. They suck.
Gardner didnt take a good angle to that ball. looked as though he was going to play the bounce and then decided last minute to run in and dive. he’s young, he’ll learn.
Thank God that Girardi already committed to Molina catching the other games.
When the other teams fans chant “Yankees Suck”, sadly they are right.
Maybe he should have called for another curve ball……..oh
TRABER IS USELESS JUST RELEASE HIM…
I love how people treat yankee games like it is world cup soccer and a 1, 2, or 3 to zero lead is game over.
This is America. Land of the free. (whoops, it is canada)
We can come back – glad we didn’t have you schlubs at the alamo (which didn’t end up so well either)
THE A-ROD CURSE…..AHHH!!!
Ya! 5-0.
Should make the top of the 9th that more entertaining when they score 6 runs.
Last place this year for the Yankees ?
two days ago, we’d won 4 in a row against tampa and boston, now we’ve lost one, we’re getting shut down by one of the best pitchers in the game and everyone is ready to jump off a bridge. let’s keep some perspective. we’re not out of the race, but my guess is we’ll finish 3rd in the best division in baseball.
going forward I think we need to address cf, rf, and 1b. I don’t think there is any sense in resigning Giambi, with Damon and Matsui already on board. I’d like to see us find someone better, especially defensively, than abreu next year although I’m nor sure we will. Joba and CMW give us a great 1-2 punch next year, who we plug in behind them next year remains to be seen, depending on free agent signings/resigning and farm development. One area I think we have gotten better and will continue to improve in is our bullpen.
Orioles only leading by 1. They need to tack on more runs.
traber is the same as Hawkins the have no use on the team… ..he stinks.
we have even more good kids in the minors for the pen but no they continue to use hawkins and traber is on like his 3rd trip up..
but angel and other dreamers act like all is well in yankeeland.. this was a masterpiece tonight by the yanks, great fielding(posada, betemit, cano), great tought AB’s(no one), and I will not complain about joba he did quite well but can be even better and since he is so talented he gets graded much harder…
sadly, now this game is pretty much over..
So, tomorrow is Rasner huh….that’s nice..
I wonder if we will score a run tomorrow?
Umm, the whole point is that BECAUSE the Rays are struggling, we are THROWING AWAY our chance to get back in the race.
Tampa is about to lose 5 in a row.
A good team, and we would have gained maybe 4 games on them? Nope, we’re going to have gained 2.5 games. News Flash: WHEN THE FIRST PLACE TEAM LOSES, AND YOU LOSE TO LAST PLACE TEAMS, YOU BLEW IT.
You BLEW IT. Simple as that.
This team has BLOWN everything so far this year. They have thrown away quality outings by starting pitchers. Not scored with bases loaded, no outs, and been shut out. Given away games with crap lineups and bad defense.
YOU CANNOT GIVE AWAY GAME AFTER GAME AND EXPECT TO MAKE IT TO THE POST SEASON.
Unless this team plays CONSISTENT baseball, they are DONE.
Before the 4 game winning streak, we had lost 4/5, to mediocre Texas (and we gave up only 5 runs in those 2!) and Boston, who had lost FIVE in a row going into that series. We split with a struggling Mets team. Split in Pittsburgh. Lost 2/3 at HOME to Cincy. This team has had their chances, and BLOWN THEM.
watching traber pitch is about as exciting as watching paint dry
I’d love to see us, if we are still behind at the deadline trade some older non-core players for high-level prospects but I doubt that will happen.
Thanks, DFox.
memo to David Cone: I think Traber actually has established himself.
Yankees……………. goodnight!
Anybody now where the good strip joints are?
When Traber gets brought in you know that Girardi has given up on the game. Same with Hawkins.
This team is a tease, reminds me of an old girlfriend….
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..So anymore journeymen and overrated prospects can we try to fill in this team.
“Ya! 5-0.
Should make the top of the 9th that more entertaining when they score 6 runs.”
I’m impressed by your optimism. And I hope you’re right.
We have far too many players who don’t deserve to be on a major league roster.
The All Star break can’t come soon enough, although I do think the Yankees will win two of three this weekend.
I realized the problem, I have yet to put my one month old son into any Yankee gear because all the stuff wwe have is for at least 3 months old. Well that stops tomorrow when we force the kid into a Yankee 2008 All Star onesie, so I’m guessing this will change the teams fortunes. No need to thank me.
remember when everyone gets interviewed in the pre season they are asked what are the keys for the season..
And everyone says pitching and if we stay heathy we will be fine.. Hey guess what we have numerous injuries.
Injuries have killed us!!1
DON’T FREAKING BLAME THE DEFENSE, NOR THE PITCHERS!!!!!!!!! This is all on the IMPOTENT and IDIOT bats of this team.. I’m sure if you send the whole SWB team up here they will hit better t han these IDIOTS!!!!!!!
Who’s Billy Traber?
Fortunately there’s not enough games left until the All Star break for the Yankees to reach their goal of going under .500 baseball.
we’re getting shut down by one of the best pitchers in the game and everyone is ready to jump off a bridge.
I’ve been in and out so don’t read all the between posts. If there are bridge jumpers that’s nuts. If there are people who are miffed about Jorge being behind the plate they’re justified.
Whether we lose to Halladay by one run or 5 Halladay usually has our number. Complete game pitcher. He usually has everyone’s number when he’s not hurt.
With Molina behind the plate we just probably lose by fewer runs.
here is the post game comments about Halladay.. We all know them already. He was tough, had it all working, that happens..
blah blah blah….
PAT M.
July 11th, 2008 at 9:16 pm
This team is a tease, reminds me of an old girlfriend….
nah….a tease would at least give you a little taste. yanks don’t give you nothin.
“When Traber gets brought in you know that Girardi has given up on the game. Same with Hawkins.”
What are you talking about? Girardi NEVER uses this guy.. and when he does it’s for 1 inning.
Let’s just hope Rays and Soxs won’t come back from behind today!
Another thrilling Yankee game.
The My9 curse strikes again…
man, watching Traber pitch is like watching the Special Olympics. Lousy game all around. oh, except for that Joba guy, he was pretty good. too bad the rest of the team crapped the bed. Talk about terrible baseball.
also, why are Hawkins and Traber continuing to waste roster spots? There is no excuse for this, especially when you have a bench spot being taken up by a guy thAt Girardi has apparently forgotten is on the team.
Jeter and ARod do not deserve to play in the All Star game.
Come on, at least get him to 100 pitches.
very easily could be 2 outs away from a no-hitter
I don’t know, I think what bothers me the most is the way they look on the field.
It reminds me of my daughters softball team who appear to
be praying the game is over soon as possible so that they can text/go to the mall/watch the jonas bros/anything but playing baseball.
Slumping is one thing…………looking pathetic is another.
nevermind lol
Also, Brett Gardner is not a very good player.
Fire Kevin Long already
Captain Clutch! We need to get into their bullpen!
Intersting stuff from Scranton:
Thru 5 so far. Ohlendorf: 7k’s No walks, three hits. Hell, maybe he should start.
jeter finally hit a ball out of the INF.
Let’s score 6 runs now!
“Fire Kevin Long already”
It’s not his fault that Girardi can’t manage.
Pete: Sorry for not saying this earlier, but that was frightening news about Bob Klapisch. I hope he makes a full recovery and is able to get back the sight in his eye.
none of this is Kevin Long’s fault. it wasn’t his fault when the team had one of the best offenses in the league. the hitters just flat out suck.
Yeah what a come from behind! 6 runs in the 9th. Ha ha ha. Not the Yankee way.
what is the over /under on a game ending double play?
Eugie – please… enlighten me to how you would like to blame this game on Girardi…. i’m all ears
It’s not his fault that Girardi can’t manage.
I’m more concerned w/ the hitters splits in situational hitting, Girardi’s managing a game the best he can w/ a team that has one of the worst hitting principles in the league.
That’s a byproduct of losing. You look pathetic and lethargic when you’re not hitting. If they score 12 runs on Saturday, dd they decide to try?
These are some good at bats finally in the 9th…maybe it will carry over into tomorrow.
Joe, You’re right, no tease, just break one’s heart….
Where were these at bats earlier in the game? grr
where was this type of at-bat early in the game? he does this now?!?! when there are only two out left?!
oops….one out left.
remember when everyone gets interviewed in the pre season they are asked what are the keys for the season..
And everyone says pitching and if we stay heathy we will be fine.. Hey guess what we have numerous injuries.
Injuries have killed us!!1
I disagree. Poor hitting and poor fielding have killed us. Jeter, Arod, Posada, Abreu, have all been back from injuries and played in enough games to hit better. They are just not getting it done and are overmatched, well except ARod, he is a friggin headcase.
Cano, Cabrera are just awful and have no discipline at the plate whatsoever.
Matsui was inconsistent as is Damon.
So you have a bunch of hitters who are suppose to be professional hitters who look like clones of Shelley Duncan flailing wildly at poor pitches.
Many will say this is not Kevin Long’s fault, but someone needs to do something to straighten this out and it is not being done. Blame Long, blame Girardi, blame Cashman… but someone needs to be accountable.
They are all paid to do a job, manage people and manage their talants. If you cannot see that they are talentless, then you deserve every bit of criticism you get.
This is a bad team, with a bad offense, and no direction, no chemistry, just a bloated payroll with players who really are just collecting paychecks. No effort on a nightly basis, no fire, nothing. Starts with the manager, the great savior, the great new skipper Joe Girardi.
To date, he has failed miserably.
Moral victory for Bobby. Doc is all softened up for Arod!
BBBooooooooooringggggg!!!! Yankees are BBOOOORRRRIIINGING!!!
thank God Abreu struck out. Thought the Yankees were going to ruin this game and score a run.
watch ARod swing at the first pitch
Eh. The enigmatic Yankees. Yawn!
Captain clutch delivered for us and saved the team from being one-hit. Instead of 1H CGSO, it’s now 2H CGSO.
Pathetic.
And I wonder why it took us 9 innings to start working the count.
BALLGAME, SUCKAS. Nice team you have there. $20 million, LOL.
That’s the best SP in the whole league, I can’t wait till he hits FA
And that’ll be your everyday two-hit shutout.
“traber is the same as Hawkins the have no use on the team… ..he stinks.”
Where is the Praying Mantis when we need him to stir up a needless controversy to take our minds off of the game?
“Eugie – please… enlighten me to how you would like to blame this game on Girardi…. i’m all ears”
It’s not just this game, it’s all season. They’re more about being agressive at the plate than patient like years past. I’m amazed that we’re even above .500 at this point.
another missed opportunity for the yanks to move in on Rays. This 08 offense is sorry
Bluto the Yankee Hater
July 11th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
BALLGAME, SUCKAS. Nice team you have there. $20 million, LOL.
wow….this team is only $20 million? that’s cheap!
I never thought I’d say this but wow – the Yankees truly sucked tonight. I mean awful. Gauge your eyes out awful. Looks like they already started their all star break.
I was wishing for Pollyanna Porkchop, TK.
That’s the best SP in the whole league, I can’t wait till he hits FA
Why so the Yankees can over pay for him as he is declining like they did for Posada, Giambi, Damon, Matsui, Sheffield, Randy Johnson, Pettitte, and how many others.
Hi Mr. Girardi
I’m the postman, I’m here to pick up the game you’d like to mail in today.
And what is the purpose of having Chad Moeller on the roster? What does this serve? He’s just a waste of space.
Billy Traber should quit he stinks
This team should be ashamed of themselves.
1 godd AB all game Abreu when the game was over…
Blame it on Melky all you clowns after all our big boys are producing like crazy.. I mean we cannot ask for any more production from afraud the old man at SS or the sft RF or the old man behind the plate or the old man at 1b or the old men in LF(damon and hideki) this team is jsut so fun to watch how they battle and really get all they can out of there ability..
let’s blather for few hiurs about Joba or gardner and melky.. Joba looked good but at the end of the day he gave up a few 0-2 hits and gave up a jack to barajas and threw to many pitch’s for like the 8th staight start…
WOW I am jazzed after watching such a great ballgame.. I have a lot of confidence since we have Rasner starting and the Jays starter can reach the plate with his pitch’s so I am sure our multi multi multi millionaire lineup will torch Litsch…..
2 hit complete game shutout for the Doc. If I’m a Yankee, I go into that clubhouse embarassed. Making the kind of money they do and putting up this kind of “effort” is pathetic. But, they make million so what do they care? I can’t believe they don’t care, but there is definitely a dearth of leadership in that clubhouse. If O’Neill, or even Pinella, was still on the team there would be blood and hair flying out of that clubhouse.
if a season like this was the price for not re-signing Arod I could have handled this. but the fact that Arod is on the team and will be for another 10 years, 1 of just a few players I loathe on this team, makes this season all the more intolerable.
When is the last time one of our pitchers hurled a complete game shutout?
When is the last time one of ‘em threw a complete game even?
Anyone know?
When is the last time one of our pitchers hurled a complete game shutout?
When is the last time one of ‘em threw a complete game even?
Anyone know?
I think Wang threw one this year.
Let’s hope the Orioles make all the right moves here and keep the lead.
This offense is a horror show. Something has to change. I’m always at odds with myself wondering to what degree Kevin Long is responsible for the inconsistent hitting & near constant failure with RISP. considering some of the names that are on the roster, I have real trouble blaming the hitting coach for their inability to do the jobs theyre so richly paid to do. however, it seems like the offense has been inconsistent as long (no pun intended I swear) as he has been hitting coach. I really miss Mattingly in that role.
When is the last time one of ‘em threw a complete game even?
Wang in Cleveland
Nice inning by Bradford. Wow.
Agreed Pepitone. Granted he’s doc Halladay, one of the best in the game, but at least put up a fight, but flail weakly into first-pitch outs.
Don’t these guys have any shame? If I earn millions to put up this kind of performance, I’d be so ashamed of myself that I’d give the money back.
Quick but painful.
Joe Girardi’s explanation for the offense before the game? “It just happens sometimes.â€
why is Traber on this team what kind of pictures does this man have on the yankees organization. DFA now and replace with a cut out of Marte it would probably get more lefties out.
It seems to happen alot under Joe Girardi.
If we’re going to have a lefty who can’t pitch on the roster, why not make it Barry Bonds? Give him Traber’s spot.
Wang had that complete game shut out back in April vs the red sox….that’s all I remember…
Re Kevin Long: Their RISP problem almost seems like a collective malady that transcends any individual and defies explanation. Too bad it’s reasserted itself this particular weekend, because Tampa and Boston are both struggling. Oh well . . .
It seems to happen alot under Joe Girardi.
You do know Girardi is also the guy who got Joe Torre to start drinking green tea ?
Looks like Wang pitched one this year and he’s the only one this year other than Ponson who pitched one with Texas.
**wait…I don’t think it was a shut out…but it was a complete game..
It’s not Trabers fault that Girardi’s pitched him 5 times since april… and how long has he been up here?
I think the word that describes the Yankees this season is inconsistent. End of story.
“You do know Girardi is also the guy who got Joe Torre to start drinking green tea ?”
That explains 04 then.
Wanger’s game was 4-1.
only a matter of time before this team gets no hit.
and if anyone brings up Barry Bonds again, I might scream. There are enough players I despise on this team as is. Plus this team is not 1 player away from contention.
Season is over. No playoffs.
Tomorrow should look like…
Jeter SS
Cano 2B
A-Rod 3B
Giambi 1B
Posada DH
Abreu RF
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Gardner LF
There is no way that Brett Gardner should be given more at bats than A-Rod or Giambi or anyone for that matter.
It seems to me this is beauty of sinker pitchers when everyone fall in love with strikeout power pitchers.
whatever happened to the yankees hitters working the count. It seems like the games are always over in less than 3 hours. Melky and cano usually swing at the first or 2nd pitch everytime. I wish these guys would work the count the way Tino and the dynasty yankees did
Billy Traber is not a major leaguer and does not belong on a team whose payroll is over $200 million. The guy has a 5.39 career ERA (before tonight which is obviously going to go up) and his style is better suited for wiffleball. He is a waste of a roster spot the same way that LaTroy Hawkins and Chad Moeller are. Instead of bringing up some kind of bat are an arm that is of any use we have three guys on the team that are just traveling around with the New York Yankees as if they are on the Ultimate Road Trip.
That kid Gardner really looks overmatched at this level. How much longer are they going to expose him to this much pain?
“whatever happened to the yankees hitters working the count. It seems like the games are always over in less than 3 hours. Melky and cano usually swing at the first or 2nd pitch everytime.”
“It just happens sometimes” – Joe Girardi.
anyone see this? Bowdon (Nats GM) is being investigated by the FBI for a “financial scandal”
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3483972
yeah blame it on Kevin long instead of the zillionaires..
that is classic in yankee land.. hey Jeter hit it out of the infield Wow…. Arod almost got a hit with RISP… Jorge only K’d once looking, good game by the real yankees!!!!!!!!!
If Wang can improve the consistency of his breaking pitches(slider/splitter/changeup), he may be Yankees’ version of Halladay. I remember Wang said Halladay is the type of pitcher he wants to be even though his idol is Clemens because he knows he is different type of pitcher as Clemens.
You think this is the Red Sox/Rays series over letdown?
I just want to know how do we jump from hitters not hitting it must be Girardi and KEVIN LONG doesn’t get questioned for the hitters approach ?
6-3 Orioles! Someone can score runs.
The Yankees have many problems right now.
1. Jorge’s dilemma. He obviously can’t catch right now. However, Molina can’t hit. Once Damon/Matsui are off the DL, how does Girardi manage this? Once Damon comes back, I’m willing to guess Gardner goes back to the AAA. But what about when Matsui comes back? He’s the most consistent hitter the Yanks have… and that’s not saying much.
2. Lack of consistency. I feel the problem with our hitting stems from the lack of consistency of the lineup. Everyday I feel like Girardi is experimenting in a different way, when he really should take a plan and stick with it. There is no chemistry right now with the team and that comes from not following the same guy day after day after day.
Moeller should catch tomorrow with Ras pitching. It is even more infuriating to watch an already infuriating team when there are guys on the roster who are not being used. This team cant afford to waste roster spots. They need to either play these guys (Moeller) or release them (hawkins, Traber).
Orioles now ahead 6-3. They gave a stat that the Orioles have the most come from behind wins in the majors, something like 22 of their games have been come from behind wins.
Just like the Yankees, cough cough.
The next couple problems are pitching ones, but we all know the problems there.
stuart it’s the hitting principles that I can’t stand, I mean it’s one thing to teach a guy to hit the ball a long way but situational hitting, working counts all those priciples don’t seem to favor the all around approach of this team. Post steroid and amp. it’s clear the teams that don’t work counts manufactor runs are done in this league.
“I just want to know how do we jump from hitters not hitting it must be Girardi and KEVIN LONG doesn’t get questioned for the hitters approach ?”
Is Long also responsible for them running the bases more this year? This is all Girardi’s approach to the game.
Long wasn’t having these guys hit like this last season.
And so another day of pain and torture ends. Tune in again tomorrow for another thrilling episode of, ” As the Losses Mount “.
So looks like both BoSux and Rays will lose tonight. Perfect opportunity to catch up in standings wasted by the sleepwalking offense.
I do agree that I would at least like to hear Long answer as to why he thinks the hitting has been so inconsistent under his employ. That is certainly not as to pardon the hitters themselves for their abject failure, though. But I do wonder what exactly they work on and how it could be improved.
“anyone see this? Bowdon (Nats GM) is being investigated by the FBI for a “financial scandalâ€
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3483972”
Recently, Yankees fired one of their officials in Latin America. It may have something to do with it.
The problem is NOT that they are inconsistant. The problem is that they can not hit. RISP or not. Some or most of them need to be benched (er…RESTED) to see if that helps.
They have scored less than 3 runs in more games this year than ALL of last year. Our pitching is BETTER than last year. Stop complaining about Trabor or other pitchers… start complaining about Arod, Posada, Jeter, and all of these other so-called SUPERSTARS.
Good players step up when injuries occur to other players. These guys are AWOL. Sad. Bench them for a few days.
What I want to know is what the hell is going on with these players? Why are they all sucking?
Is Long also responsible for them running the bases more this year? This is all Girardi’s approach to the game.
Long wasn’t having these guys hit like this last season.
Does it matter if they can ‘t hit the ball ? they can’t work counts, they don’t have patience at the plate, right now all Long has preached is extension and power, where is the hitting w/ a hitters count ? where is the hitting to move a guy from 3rd to home, it’s damn pathetic, I praised this guy last season but in the whole scheme he’s not a guy I want teaching the future Yankees prospects.
How many times do we have to hear the word consistency ? Girardi keeps talking about it yet other than Mo and mostly Pettitte, who is consistent ? What are the other 23 parts of the team doing ?
The only thing I am upset with tonight is that the Yankees had two hits. The fact that they lost to Roy Halladay isn’t a shocker as their chances of winning against him weren’t very good going in.
The fact of the matter is that they should have beat Pittsburgh last night the same way they should have taken AT LEAST 2 of 3 from Texas if not all 3. The Yankees don’t win the games they are suppose to win.
You need to play .500 against the top teams in the league and beat up on the teams that you should beat up on. Every team is going to win 60 games and lose 60 games, it’s what you do in the other 42 that determine who makes the playoffs, and right now the Yankees are throwing away those other 42.
The Yankees were not favored to win tonight’s game.
Guys, sometimes we just need to tip our caps to opposing pitcher. Halladay will be on my list. I am actually not upset about our offense today. Halladay is one of pitchers who keep throwing strikes for all kind of different pitches he has. That’s why we can’t work the count.
Too funny. Red Sox announcers just talking about Jorge being upset that he hasn’t been catching lately. Nice that the big eared loser griped enough for the press to catch it and print it. Here’s a clue for you Jorge. You’re hurt and you stink behind the plate because of it. The team needs some heros to step up not selfish crybabies to stomp their feet and demand to be accomodated!
“Does it matter if they can ‘t hit the ball ? they can’t work counts, they don’t have patience at the plate, right now all Long has preached is extension and power, where is the hitting w/ a hitters count ? where is the hitting to move a guy from 3rd to home, it’s damn pathetic, I praised this guy last season but in the whole scheme he’s not a guy I want teaching the future Yankees prospects.”
The hitting coach goes under the managers direction. Getting rid of Long will not mean anything when Girardi will have the new guy bring the same approach.
A pitcher named Thompson for Reds beats us 5-0.
A pitcher named Feldman for Texas beats us 2-1.
Oliver Perez for the mets beats us
Which is the better team now and will make the playoffs, Mets or yanksssss? LOL
As bad as it looks now, I still believe our Yankees can live up to their expectation. They will pick it up in the second half of season.
“Too funny. Red Sox announcers just talking about Jorge being upset that he hasn’t been catching lately. Nice that the big eared loser griped enough for the press to catch it and print it. Here’s a clue for you Jorge. You’re hurt and you stink behind the plate because of it. The team needs some heros to step up not selfish crybabies to stomp their feet and demand to be accomodated!”
You mean like how Jason Giambi has whined for years about not playing 1st base full time?
Which is the better team now and will make the playoffs, Mets or yanksssss? LOL
Right now the Mets
The hitting coach goes under the managers direction. Getting rid of Long will not mean anything when Girardi will have the new guy bring the same approach.
Yeeeeah sure.
Its hard watching the Yankee offense sleepwalk through these games. Haliday is a very good pitcher, but not invinsible.
I always have liked reading the posts, but have never posted before here. I just had to respond after another disgusting performance and I saw Jessica’s post. I felt a need to respond. Are you kidding? how many times can you tip your head to the opposing pitcher? They’d have whiplash. I also hate to say it but, the chances of the Yankees picking it up in the second half are as likely as $0.99 gas coming back.
Jessica makes good points. Doc has 7 complete games. We probably didn’t stand a chance from the first pitch. When you have someone that throws lots of strikes you have to swing pretty fast in the count. The only thing that really miffed me was Jorge catching. He’s just awful right now.
Jessica, I like your optimism. I agree that there’s no shame in losing to Halladay, even if they looked awful in doing it. We’ll all feel better if they take the next two games, that would be a really nice finish going into the break.
7-3 Orioles.
In the month of June starters with the name of Blackburn, Davies,Thompson, Feldman and Perez just shut us down. How would you expect the Yankees to beat Halladay?
Is it Litsch against Rasner tomorrow? Don’t expect a win there either.
With Toronto, Oakland, Minnesota, Boston, Baltimore and LA on the schedule this month, if we don’t get some help soon, either by trade or players getting healthy, we might very well be below .500 ball!
You can’t tip your cap to the Scott Feldmans and the Paul Maholms of the world, but you can tip your cap to Halliday. That said, the Yankees had some chances to at least make it a game that they squandered. Giambi got a good pitch to hit with A-Rod on 1st and he missed it.
You mean like how Jason Giambi has whined for years about not playing 1st base full time?
Uh let’s see if there’s any difference here shall we? Giambi says he has a better offensive game when he also plays in the field. Stats bear that out. Posada has been playing but just not where he wants to play. The reason he hasn’t been where he wants to play is because he now throws like a girl and runners steal on him like crazy. Never something you want to see in your catcher by the way. But he griped about it and acted like enough of a spoiled sport and put Girardi on the spot so he got his wish. And showed why he doesn’t belong behind the plate.
And oh yeah. Giambi apparently didn’t make the comments in a nasty huff and that way they didn’t get reported in every newspaper and on ESPN. Jorge’s have been reported everywhere.
With Molina catching Rasner and Toronto with their AAA lineup the Yankees have a chance to win tomorrow.
Again tonight the team has repeatedly been described as “inconsistent”.
What’s inconsistent exactly??? I’m not sure you guys really understand the meaning of the word.
With the exception of two weeks in June and one game last week the offense has been CONSISTENTLY bad. The teams BA with and without RISP has been CONSISTENTLY low ALL season, from day one. Even the games they win are usually low scoring and thanks to good pitching, not offense.
This team is absolutely consistent.
I can’t tip my cap to Halliday. they are grown men fighting for a pennant, but it was as if Halliday was pitching to a HS club. If the Yankees had hit at all this year, and got shut down by Halliday. OK. great. tip your cap. But not anymore. This wasn’t hard for him. Dennis Martinez would finally have gotten a win against the Yankees tonight. for those of you who don;t know him, he never could beat the Yankees.
“Uh let’s see if there’s any difference here shall we? Giambi says he has a better offensive game when he also plays in the field. Stats bear that out. Posada has been playing but just not where he wants to play. The reason he hasn’t been where he wants to play is because he now throws like a girl and runners steal on him like crazy. Never something you want to see in your catcher by the way. But he griped about it and acted like enough of a spoiled sport and put Girardi on the spot so he got his wish. And showed why he doesn’t belong behind the plate.”
Stats lie. If you’ve watched over the years you’d see that Torre mainly DH’d him when he was hurt or slumping. Of course, he would have a better feeling towards playing the field.
“And oh yeah. Giambi apparently didn’t make the comments in a nasty huff and that way they didn’t get reported in every newspaper and on ESPN. ”
???????????????????????????????????? Yeah he did. Alot of times.
Barry Bonds!
Sammy Sosa!
Barry Bonds!
Sammy Sosa!
Barry Bonds!
Sammy Sosa!
P.S. the NY Knicks really are a stupid organization
The Clippers wanted Zach Randolph for free, basically they take him because they are under the cap the money goes on the Clippers the Knicks would have recieved cap relief and THEY TURNED IT DOWN !!!!
Jim, you hit the nail on the head. Yeah, Halliday is a great pitcher, but these guys make EVERY opposing pitcher look like Cy Young. I feel bad for Girardi having to make excuses for these lumps every night in the post-game.
Eugie that’s actually funny dude. Giambi doesn’t have a mean or complaining bone in his body. Good try though. Posada will rip your throat out though. Two different animals there.
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, this team is full of great hitters, and they will start hitting. BUT, with that said, Girardi needs to get creative. This lineup must be re-worked. No more Gardner leading off. Let Jeter lead off for now on. Part of the problem with this lineup is you replaced the leadoff spot that was producing a lot with Gardner. Bad move. That needs to change right away. Next, like other people have been saying, Cano needs to move up in the order. I would hit him second, leave Abreu third, and keep A-Rod 4th. Maybe move Melky up a little. I like Posada towards the bottom, and Gardner very last if he’s in the lineup at all.
Even though this team will start hitting, Girardi can give them the boost they need just by reworking the lineup.
Um, dating Madonna.
Sorry to remind you all but on a dreadfull night in 2004 when Jhonny Damon hit a grand slam off our Yankees and a bum named Kevin Brown in ended. There has been no sigh of the team I love since that night. The Mo Jo/ Magic went out the window and down the sewer. It will never return as long as any member of that team still plays for the Yankees. The 10 year deal givin to Choke Rod was a huge mistake. They needed to dump the entire team then except for Mo. There is a cance that will never go away because of that choke job. It all got ruined. They did not care then and still do not care.
Sox have bases loaded. Down 4. 2 out in the 9th. Come on O’s, don’t frak this up.
Red Sox are doing something the Yankees don’t know how to do. Threatening in the 9th. 2 out error by Orioles and the game is now on the line.
Phew. Game over.
Oh Michael, what would we do without you? Thanks for bringing to light why the Yankees lineup isn’t producing any runs. Every time they walk to the plate, they remember a night in 2004. Right. It was be great if they could remember the at-bat before so they looked a little more comfortable at the plate. But please, I hope you were kidding with what you just said.
Nice. Bye bye Red Sox.
yeah! sox lost!
Happy Youklis was the one to do it.
Nice stat for the Yankees. They are one of the few teams in the majors to have a winning record on the road. Credit to them for something.
When is Girardi going to realize that giving credit to the pitcher line has been old for 2 months now???!! You can’t use that BS excuse anymore. Halladay is a good pitcher but give me a break that they can’t touch him?!?!! Boston absolutely owns Halladay and makes him work. Yanks didn’t do anything tonight or even show up.
Also I am sick and tired of Posada already. He cries likes a btch and then plays like crap. He can’t catch a ball hit right to him and can’t throw to 1st. His contract is going to be AWFUL for the next 3 years. Also how much longer are the Yanks going to carry a CF who hits like a pitcher? What part of when no one else is hitting you can’t carry a AA hitter doesn’t Cashman understand?
At the beginning of the season it was give credit to the pitcher now it is absolutely embarrassing. This is the 3 year in a row that this “great” offense doesn’t show up.
“A pitcher named Thompson for Reds beats us 5-0.
A pitcher named Feldman for Texas beats us 2-1.
Oliver Perez for the mets beats us”
And those pitchers will win and lose games from now on.
A pitcher named Thompson had a 1.76 ERA in AA before his callup.
A pitcher named Feldman… well, no, he just sucks.
Oliver Perez for the mets seems to have turned it around (excellent vs. Yankees, Phillies (excellent hitting club), Rockies in his last 3 starts)).
:shrug:
DFox-
I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again, this team is full of great hitters, and they will start hitting.
This team is looking old-old-old. They’re almost as decrepit as McCain.
Thanks Michael, but choking once isn’t the same as choking 96 years in a row.
Try not to choke on that kid
DFox, I agree, the leadoff spot is not the ideal place to try to figure out big league pitching. Jeter leading off until Damon comes back gives you a better chance to get the leadoff hitter on base and also prevents the Captain from doing that thing we don’t like him to do. At least in the 1st inning.
the yankees offense sucks and brian cashman is the worst gm in the league. obviously he should be fired. if you told a gm that he can spend a lot more than any other team in baseball, don’t you think most of them would put together a team that is not in 3rd place. jeter sucks, his rings are the past and i can’t see how he can steal 22 million from the yanks. i mean i want to see him play for another team! without the yankees jeter is nothing. he is a 7 million dollar guy on any other team. i honestly want to see you disagree with me because you know it is all true. i am one of the biggest yankee fans in the world and i am posting this message out of frustration. when can the yanks catch a break though. it does not look like hughes or kennedy will pan out. tabata is having problems this yr and there are no decent prospects becoming superstars- i.e. david wright, ryan howard, pujols, johan.
CaptainsCorner – are you 13?
I swear, you are probably one of the more moronic posters around here.
What do you want Girardi to say? “We suck, and we aren’t getting better. Get used to it”?
Roy Halladay is a good pitcher. If you expect to kick his butt, well, you’re an idiot.
“This team is looking old-old-old. They’re almost as decrepit as McCain.”
Haha, but yeah, right now, I would have to agree with you.
But on the other side, on nights when they score a lot of runs and hit like they used to, they look young-young-young, wouldn’t you say?
“i.e. david wright, ryan howard, pujols, johan.”
Um, Pujols and Johan weren’t prospects. They were both nobodies that surprised.
Oops, that was 86, but what’s the difference:)
“Eugie that’s actually funny dude. Giambi doesn’t have a mean or complaining bone in his body. Good try though. Posada will rip your throat out though. Two different animals there.”
You got to be kidding me. He’s a saint now?
You must have a short memory.
After watching this year’s offense, I hear Dennis Martinez is going to make a one time comeback to the highest bidder and end his long losing streak to the Yankees.
LOL! Now YANKEES FANS are saying Posada and Jeter suck. Yep, all I need to know, bandwagon idiots.
Crawl back to your holes and come back out the next time the Yankees make the playoffs, bandwagoners.
Dennis Martinez was a good pitcher for the Orioles.
We scored 2 runs off Holiday the last time he beat us and they score 5 runs off us without Wells and Rios.
The NL is gearing up earlier than July 31st to make moves. CC to Brewers, Cubs get Harden and Gaudin. If we wait until the end of the month, most contending clubs will have made their moves.
Therefore if we’re sellers, see if Mussina, whose been great, will accept a trade to the Phillies, who need a pitcher and would keep him close to his home in PA.
Mets are looking for an outfielder, and rumor was Matt Holiday. Maybe Abreu, another FA would go across town.
Farnsworth has looked good lately, another FA. Trade him while his value is highest. Brewers, Phillies, lots of contenders might want him.
Betemit might bring something- from little leagues!
Giambi probably untradeable with his 5M buyout clause and current 22M salary, but seeing what he’d bring would be worth looking into.
Pettitte won’t go anywhere.
Look to trade our FA’s, because this season, even if lucky to make the playoffs won’t advance too far, because the teams with the stellar pitching will shut us down.
Any of these FA’s might help to restock position players in our farm system and free up money to make some savvy deals this winter.
Thoughts??
I can’t believe how bad the yankees have become. They need to blow up the team and start over.
“Therefore if we’re sellers, see if Mussina, whose been great, will accept a trade to the Phillies, who need a pitcher and would keep him close to his home in PA.”
I don’t think they’d give any of their high ceiling prospects – they balked at sending them for CC, and their non high ceiling guys are worthless.
This team is hard to watch.
Yankee Trader,
I know Dennis Martinez was good for the Orioles. The point is he could never beat the Yankees.
A surprising fan,
How do you know there are no prospects becoming superstars? What about Joba? You can’t expect every freakin prospect no matter how hyped to turn into a Johan, Halladay, Peavy. Some work some don’t. Plus, not all Yankee prospects are built to turn into #1′s. Joba is, Brackman is, Hughes could still turn into a #2/#3, Kennedy could be a Moose type pitcher which is like a 4 or 5, then we have a 4 or 5 in Horne, if Cole signs a possible #1 or 2, and all the other prospects I don’t have time to mention. Having this many just means that you have a better chance. having like three or four homegrown starters is big and thus will stop as many FAs from signing. We also have some big players for the bullpen in Melancon, Cox, Sanchez, Robertson, Veras, Ohlendorf, and more. Not everyone is going ot turn into what we want but having options works. Using these pitching, we could find offense.
DFox, do you honestly think the Yanks would just start over. They have the ability to go for it and grow. We are doing that now. Of course, we haven’t been playing our best but we have given young players a chance. Do you think the New York media and the fans would accept a rebuilding phase. Not a chance in hell.
I don’t think the “blow up the team” DFox is the real DFox.
“DFox, do you honestly think the Yanks would just start over. They have the ability to go for it and grow. We are doing that now. Of course, we haven’t been playing our best but we have given young players a chance. Do you think the New York media and the fans would accept a rebuilding phase. Not a chance in hell.”
That wasn’t me, it was some idiot playing games. When people say generically stupid things like that it is generally someone pretending to be them with nothing better to do.
No Giambi on 1st = LOSS. Posada was TERRIBLE again. He SUCKS big time. Let him go. Ridiculous, team like this shuts down team like Yankees. WOW.
It is time to reboot and sell at the deadline. It is not happening at all in 2008.
“That wasn’t me, it was some idiot playing games. When people say generically stupid things like that it is generally someone pretending to be them with nothing better to do.”
Like this?
This team is worthless. They should DFA the whole team and buy the Rays.
This team stinks. I can’t believe how bad they are.
What do you expect Long to do with Cabrera, Molina, Christian, Gardner, Betemit, etc?
You can’t make lemonade with apples. We don’t have the talent and Cashman is not playing for 2008.
Jim
What was Martinez’ record against the Yankees?
By the way he was an alcoholic, overcame that and at age 36 pitched a perfect game against the Dodgers, pitching for the Expos. Won 100 games in both leagues.
Dennis Martinez – too funny
his lifetime record vs the Yanks was 2-19 in 24 starts!
Thank you Yankee ‘to death’ for the info.
I guess the moral of the Dennis Martinez story is that he should of demanded from Earl Weaver a trade to the Yankees.
No wonder he had a problem with alchol! 2-19!
This board used to be interesting. But, Christ, what a bunch of bridge jumpers.
Hallladay pitched a complete game against them (his 7th by the way) – LET”S BLOW UP THE TEAM! someone actually posted. What a joke.
“Jeter sucks.” and “Posada sucks.” Etc., etc.
Do me a favor – go to the next homestand and boo those guys.
Then we can all look at you and say, “Now THAT guy sucks!”
H… Jeter does suck. He has 4 Hr’s and and OBP slightly better the Lugo. The old Jeter did not suck this one does.. Live in the yr. 2008.. There offense is offensive, the facts hurt.. Posada look at him!!!!He missed like 30 games, cannot throw, and so far his offense has been average.
those are the facts, the fats for this tem so far are not fun….Arod is having a mediocore yr. He makes $27 mill, the guy is hitting 230 with RISP, Giambi under 200..
THOSE ARE THE UGLY FACTS…
WOW
I intentionally stayed away from this thread during the game. It looks like a lot of people here feel the same way I do.
Just an absolutely disgusting display, an embarassment.
This offense….. its beyond bad. Words cannot describe how terrible this offense is.
There really isn’t too much else to say.
I said it last night and I’ll say it again. There will be no October baseball for this team. This is not a knee-jerk reaction. Its the sad reality of watching this team on a daily basis.
The pitching had been great when you look at all the injuries the staff has endured. Its been better than the Yankees brass could have ever hoped.
The defense….very poor.
The offense…. eessshhh. You can really only shake your head and hope Cash is a seller not a buyer at the deadline.
Again, we are not one move away. We are not 2 moves away. We need to replace about half of our position players.
H
You’re the GM. What moves would you make to make this team better? Trades? Wait for the players that are on DL to get healthy? Change the lineup?
Everone on this post knows the obvious and are frustrated with this team.
So anyone, what REALISTC trades, call-ups, etc. whould we make to better the team before the trading deadline?-And I don’t want to hear sign Bonds, or trade Cano for Cain and Sanchez!
I don’t think the “blow up the team†DFox is the real DFox.
Me thinks the same thing.
This place sure gets wacky when we lose…
Yankee Trader,
Now do you know why Dennis is itching to lace them up again? Sad isn’t it the way the team is hitting?
stuart -
A-Rod mediocre??? He is No. 5 in OBP; No. 2 in SLG, No. 2 in OPS, Top 10 in AVG. The only reason he is not there in HR and RBIs is the fact he missed about 15-20 games. He’ll be right there by the end of the year. Sure, he ain’t matching last year, but Christ, that is asking a lot.
Jeter had a lousy start, and played through some injuries, but has put up near career avg. stats in June and July. He’ll finish near his career numbers as well.
Posada is a different story. He had a career year last year – got paid (too much and for too long, IMO). Now, he in quite obviously hurting. But the way so-called fans turn on the guy is pretty lame.
It’s a long season. They are only 4 out of a playoff spot – 6.5 back from the Rays.
Getting shut out by one of the best pitchers in the league is no fun, but stay off the ledge.
H-
can you count? cause it wasn’t that Halladay tossed a complete game (big deal), it’s that we only massed a grand total of 2 hits.
‘to death’
Yeah. I counted that. Halladay has done that a few times.
Do you think he pitched a lousy game?
Yankee Trader -
I think they quite clearly need another outfield bat. I would go for a guy like Josh Willingham.
They could use a starter, but I am not sure who is available.
H-
There is a lack of common sense when the Yankees lose here on this blog. SSDD
When and Why do they start couning on the wildcard in the first week or two of july? can we enjoy the season fro crissakes