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Today in The Journal News

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 11, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Paul Maholm was a lot better this time (or the Yankees were a lot worse) as the Pirates won a make-up game 4-2. This story also details what appears to be some tension between Joe Girardi and Jorge Posada.

The All-Star Fan Fest starts today. Brian Heyman has the story.

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USA Today, meanwhile, has a feature on Hank Steinbrenner. The biggest revelation is that Little Stein plans to hire Lou Piniella as an advisor once he retires from managing. That should be good news for whoever the manager is at the time.

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Headed to Toronto (via Newark) this morning. Check back later for the lineup and other updates.

 
 

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140 Responses to “Today in The Journal News”

  1. John July 11th, 2008 at 6:23 am

    What a god awful game last night, this team just su(ks that is the bottom line. Seriously we had the black hole batting 6,7, 8, and 9

    When Melky Cabrera is your 6th hitter, there are some issues.

    We have spent 210 million dollars, and yes i know that there have been injuries, but there has to be a good or well above average bench or backup plan when you spend so much. Last nights game was the boiling point for me. Letting Paul Malholm go 8 innings of 2 run ball is just a joke. I’ve had it with this club. No Girardi pep rally is going to get them going. No one can fire them up. We su(k that is the bottom line

  2. Someone Else July 11th, 2008 at 6:41 am

    “I’ve had it with this club.”

    Don’t let the door slam on your way out.

  3. Margot July 11th, 2008 at 6:53 am

    mebees dere problom be girardi. posada hes dit be likin the girardi.

  4. huh July 11th, 2008 at 7:19 am

    “Margot
    July 11th, 2008 at 6:53 am
    mebees dere problom be girardi. posada hes dit be likin the girardi.”

    speak english you moron

  5. Whitey Fraud July 11th, 2008 at 7:24 am

    Lou as Special Adviser? It just means that he can hang out in Tampa a lot. Maybe consult the Outback Steakhouse and Hooters guys. No worries!

  6. Steve July 11th, 2008 at 7:34 am

    I wouldn’t go nuts over a Lou hiring. He’s always been tight with the Stienbrenners, is a fellow Horse racing guy, and by the time this Cubs contract expires he’ll be around 70. Don’t think its a big deal.

  7. randy l July 11th, 2008 at 7:36 am

    reading what hank says is a big yawn. nespotism at it’s worst.
    he spent most of his life not interested in the yankees, and now he’s not sure how long he’s going to keep running them.

    when people on this blog show more passion for the yankees than the guy running the yankees it’s not difficult to know what’s wrong with this team.

    the sooner the steinbrenner brothers sell the yankees, the better. they’re just not into it the way they need to be.

  8. Margot July 11th, 2008 at 7:44 am

    iz remembring dems owners afore dem stiens deys were nots good times so bcareful wats youse wishes fer.

  9. Vrsce July 11th, 2008 at 7:46 am

    Posada seems to have a bad attitude.

    He likes to catch, great. But he can’t throw.

  10. Fredo Corleone July 11th, 2008 at 7:52 am

    “Posada seems to have a bad attitude.

    He likes to catch, great. But he can’t throw.”

    Certainly his physical limitations are a problem for both him and the Yankees, but Posada has never had anything but an excellent attitude. He’s probably a little frustrated, but I’d never question his attitude.

  11. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 7:55 am

    “Posada seems to have a bad attitude.

    He likes to catch, great. But he can’t throw.”

    i agree. Posada is a very proud man, but he’s got to understand that his shoulder injury is a liability for the team behind the plate. it just is.

    what this teams from him more than anything else is his bat in the lineup. if Girardi can get him into the game without having to suffer with his lack of arm behind the plate, that makes the team better.

    now, if you’re playing against a team who isnt aggresive on the basepaths, or who does not fundamentally believe in the stolen base, like the Athletics, then you can put Posada behind the plate.

    but otherwise, these teams are just going to run wild on him.

  12. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 8:00 am

    and man, i cant tell you how frustrating it is to watch this team. they have me rocking back and forth on the fence about the realistic chance they have of getting to the playoffs, i just dont know which way to go.

    some games, theyve got it all put together, and others tey look like they just dont have a chance.

  13. randy l July 11th, 2008 at 8:17 am

    http://www.necn.com/Boston/Spo.....30674.html

    sign of the times story.
    kids make wiffleball field.
    lots of kids show up.
    neighbors complain.
    town closes wiffleball.

    where i grew up in the fifties in the ct. river valley, we played baseball in the farmer’s field next to the subdivision we grew up in. there were about 12 -15 kids my age and every day in the summer we played all morning , raced home for lunch , and then raced back to play all afternoon. the farmer cut the field so we could play.

    in the evening after dinner, whiffleball in one of my friends yards. we had to pick a team and imitate every hitter in the lineup. everyone, if they didn’t get to be the yankees ,picked the tigers so they could imitate Dick McAuliffe’s stance which was unlike any other of it’s day. wide open lefty stance up on right toe.

    one day in the early 90′s i had the good fortune sit on the yankee bench at fenway for a few hours before an espn game of the week and at one point gammons asked mattingly how he was able to hit the wall in fenway so easily and mattingly said it was from wiffleball in his yard as a kid. his yard was set up so he had to hit to left field . the next 20 minutes was other players talking about the ground rules of their yard for wiffleball when they were kids.

    the town of greenwich should let the kids play, deal with the noise for the summer and give them an alternative place to make their wiffleball field next summer.

  14. RER - 98 July 11th, 2008 at 8:35 am

    The Steinbrenner brothers are well aware of their $209M payroll full of old underachievers and it’s a good part of the reason why fans have heard no big rants unlike what their father would have done.
    They look forward to clearing the books of bloated payroll and head in a new and different direction and that will be made abundantly clear with Cashman when they sign him to a new deal.
    It’s also clear that this team as presently constructed lacks situational hitting and that will be addressed with Girardi at season’s end. A new style of Yankee play will feature contact hitters, more team speed with smart baserunning, pitchers throwing quality starts, and above all a solid bullpen.
    As the trading deadline nears, little can or will be done unless the Steinbrenners feel something can still be made of this season and even then they won’t want Cashman to distrupt the farm system to any degree.
    The next 2 1/2 weeks will be telling for what the Yankees are to be about.

  15. Doreen July 11th, 2008 at 8:38 am

    Randy l -

    It really is a shame. Growing up, we had a neighbor who had a large lot, much of which was open field, and we played baseball there. (Of course, girls were allowed when there weren’t enough boys, but if the girls were good enough, they got invited next time.) It was right across the street from our house. And it was just the neighborhood kids.

    These kids up in Greenwich, I applaud them. It seems to me they tried to take into consideration the ball going into the neighbors’ yards by putting up a fence – and building their own version of the Green Monster was inspired.

    But, like the man said, this isn’t 1950 and the problem is liability. Back in the day, we fell, we got hurt, we cleaned it up, we went back out. Unfortunately, nowadays, there’s likely to be some kind of lawsuit involved.

    Not to mention, the adults have to always get in the way. While I liked the town’s compromise of finding a suitable place to play, the idea of setting up tournaments kind of defeats the idea of what the kids were trying to do. Organized games with proscribed rules (as opposed to the creative rules that kids come up with in a pick-up game) is going to make most of the kids stay away, in my opinion.

  16. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 8:40 am

    randy, i think this was on the news on nbc last night, too… and if it wasnt this specific one, then there is another story just like it.

    there has to be something said for the desire for these kids to even want to play outdoors nowadays. most kids would just opt for the XBox 360 version of wiffle ball, and then sit on myspace for 3 hours.

    they are actually interacting with other people, staying active outdoors, and building a sense of friendship and community with peers. these people need to shut up and let the kids play.

  17. jennifer July 11th, 2008 at 8:41 am

    Hey Pete maybe i’ll run into you at the airport. Taking a flight out of Newark today too.

  18. Doreen July 11th, 2008 at 8:43 am

    A glaring problem with this team is ARod’s average with RISP. He is the clean-up hitter. I know his numbers overall are good; heck, he leads the team in most offensive categories. And he’s got almost as many runs scored as runs batted in, and that’s usually a good thing. But too many times he’s 0-2. And too many times he just doesn’t come through in opportune spots. Hopefully he breaks out soon, but I remember 2006, when almost every telecast you had one of the Yankees announcers saying that ARod just had to break out, he’s too good a talent not to, and yet, he really didnt. As decent as his overall numbers were in 2006, even he admitted he was not satisfied with the way the year went.

    No doubt he has the talent. And I’m not hating on ARod, but you have to call a spade a spade, and he’s expected to do much more than he has. Of course there are others producing far less than expected, too. But they signed ARod to be the big guy in that lineup, and too often he is not.

  19. 86w183 July 11th, 2008 at 8:45 am

    I like the fact that “Steinbrenner, the next generation” is showing some patience in letting the season play out and the young players develop before doing anything drastic. It’s very hard to try and get younger, cheaper and remain championship caliber all at the same time. Most every move compromises one of those goals in the pursuit of one of the others and that’s a delicate balance.

    We all know they need a RH bat, another starting pitcher and a lefty for the pen. Those are not huge issues, but if they are too costly, you end up signing Richie Sexson instead of trading top prospects for Xavier Nady or Jason Bay. Too many think those holes can be filled with marginal prospects, but they can’t.

    Keep plugging boys, we’re still just five games out of the playoffs.

  20. Martin July 11th, 2008 at 8:46 am

    Pete,

    Why are the boys over at No Mass giving you a hard time?

  21. Fredo Corleone July 11th, 2008 at 8:54 am

    Greenwich people think their’s doesn’t stink.

    Can’t stand stuff like this. In an age when so many kids eschew pickup baseball, whiffle ball, football, etc. in favor mindnumbing video games and MTV reruns of Tila Tequilla, these kids are outside, having fun, and doing no harm to anything or anyone, with the exception of the grass they play on. Very sad. Would the 3:00 Martini crowd in Greenwich prefer these kids sit inside playing Grand Theft Auto while their brains drip slowly out of their ears????

  22. Glenn July 11th, 2008 at 8:59 am

    Doreen -

    A-Rod will never be accused of being a good situational hitter.
    For example, with runners on 1st & 2nd and no outs, who can see him just quickly shorten his swing and just dump a little hit over the infield and in doing so driving in one run with a chance of more coming with 2 runner including himself still on base ?

  23. Rishi July 11th, 2008 at 9:00 am

    Headed in for (season ending :) ) shoulder surgery this afternoon…will end up posting a whole lot less than normally, but I’ll still be reading all the comments.

    Can’t wait to come back to the Yankees leading the playoff hunt (yes…optimism)!

  24. jennifer July 11th, 2008 at 9:01 am

    rishi- Good luck!!

  25. Tom (bring on Gardner) July 11th, 2008 at 9:07 am

    Guys, calm down…

    The Yanks won the last 2 against Boston, swept the Rays 2-0 and now lost to a poor Pittburgh Team. It happens. Let’s wait and see what happens against Toronto.

  26. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 9:07 am

    good luck Rishi!

  27. Patrick â„¢ July 11th, 2008 at 9:12 am

    I am annoyed the Yanks lost to the Pirates (on my birthday no less), but I was kind of expecting it. As long as they take 2 or more from Toronto I’ll be happy going into the AS break.

  28. ray (sox fan) July 11th, 2008 at 9:14 am

    Rishi, I hope your surgery goes well!

  29. S.A.- Just win games and can the offense stop being so offensive? July 11th, 2008 at 9:17 am

    Good Luck Rishi!

  30. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 9:18 am

    “As long as they take 2 or more from Toronto I’ll be happy going into the AS break.”

    going back to our first look at the final stretch of 13 games before the AS break, i felt like in order to go in on a great note, they needed to finish 9-4, while Pete here suggested 8-5.

    Right now, if they sweep the Jays, they can get to 8-5, which was about the least i could see them doing while finishing on a high note.

    if they get 2 out of 3, they’ll finish at 7-6, and that really isnt good enough. the series split with Boston (which is what i expected), and series win against the Rays aside (which was better than i expected), its the games against the lesser teams, and the losses against the lesser teams, that kills me and dampens my enthuisiam for what i believe this team can really accomplish.

  31. Fredo Corleone July 11th, 2008 at 9:18 am

    “The Yanks won the last 2 against Boston, swept the Rays 2-0 and now lost to a poor Pittburgh Team. It happens. Let’s wait and see what happens against Toronto.”

    People are familiar with the 4 in a row vs. Boston and Tampa. However, they’re also familiar with them losing 5 of 6 before winning those 4. They remember winning 5 of 6 in a swing thru Oakland and Houston only to turn around and lose series AT HOME to Texas and Cincinatti. They remember scoring 18 runs in a game against Texas last week only to score 20 runs total in the seven games that followed.

    It’s the inconsistency in this team that people find so frustrating.

  32. Someone Else July 11th, 2008 at 9:22 am

    “A glaring problem with this team is ARod’s average with RISP. He is the clean-up hitter. I know his numbers overall are good; heck, he leads the team in most offensive categories. And he’s got almost as many runs scored as runs batted in, and that’s usually a good thing. But too many times he’s 0-2. And too many times he just doesn’t come through in opportune spots. Hopefully he breaks out soon, but I remember 2006, when almost every telecast you had one of the Yankees announcers saying that ARod just had to break out, he’s too good a talent not to, and yet, he really didnt. As decent as his overall numbers were in 2006, even he admitted he was not satisfied with the way the year went.

    No doubt he has the talent. And I’m not hating on ARod, but you have to call a spade a spade, and he’s expected to do much more than he has. Of course there are others producing far less than expected, too. But they signed ARod to be the big guy in that lineup, and too often he is not.”

    Doreen, the ‘ARod can’t hit with RISP’ myth is just that, a myth.

    My post last night, when someone was whining about ARod:

    “Overall
    2004: 698 PAs, 601 ABs, .286/.375/.512
    2005: 715 PAs, 605 ABs, .321/.421/.610
    2006: 674 PAs, 572 ABs, .290/.392/.523
    2007: 708 PAs, 583 ABs, .314/.422/.645
    2008: 302 PAs, 262 ABs, .317/.401/.592

    With RISP
    2004: 191 PAs, 157 ABs, .247/.346/.439
    2005: 229 PAs, 186 ABs, .290/.410/.484
    2006: 239 PAs, 189 ABs, .302/.431/.508
    2007: 235 PAs, 177 ABs, .333/.460/.678
    2008: 101 PAs, 78 ABs, .244/.396/.449″

    That’s ARod’s stats as a Yankee (not including last night).

    He went 0/4 last night. 0/2 with RISP, 0/2 with no RISP. Not sure, exactly, how that shows he’s worse with RISP than overall.

  33. Someone Else July 11th, 2008 at 9:24 am

    Also, in 2006, ARod had a VERY WELL DOCUMENTED mechanical error in his swing, which was fixed prior to 2007. His swing was too long, and his leg kick was horribly off.

    He doesn’t seem to have that mechanical hiccup right now. He’ll be fine.

  34. Brian (Red Sox fan) July 11th, 2008 at 9:26 am

    Randy 1 -
    Growing up in the ’50s (in RI), the local “baseball field” was an empty house lot, flanked by houses in a residential area. The same kids congregated to the lot at the same time every day, and we played ball ’til dark. No one complained, the authorities weren’t notified, and we developed our meager baseball skills w/o adult supervision (or interference). This was back in the days when you had to try out to get on a LL team (many kids were cut), so sandlot ball was a critical element of “player development.”

    Too bad about the curmudgeons in Greenwich, but not surprising …. they probably want those kids playing video games and eating Cheetos, so that their nuisance value is eliminated.

    P.S. Livan was doing fine on Wednesday, but he threw a pitch at 88 MPH and became drunk with power. I’m sure that he’ll make the necessary corrections, and dip back into the low 80s in his next start.

  35. Bronxbyte July 11th, 2008 at 9:28 am

    Good article with Hank Steinbrenner. Lou Piniella has always been held in high regard by the family even when he’s strayed away to manage other teams. His latest stint with the Cubs should be his last and then he’ll come home to Tampa and have a position with the Yankees for as long as he wants.
    It was Lou that stongly suggested and urged Hank and Hal to get involved with the failing health of George. Lou was always a favorite of Hank & Hal both as a player and other capacities he served with the Yankees.

  36. randy l July 11th, 2008 at 9:33 am

    ” Organized games with proscribed rules (as opposed to the creative rules that kids come up with in a pick-up game) is going to make most of the kids stay away, in my opinion.”

    bingo!

    doreen-
    there’s something about kids interacting and making up their own rules that empowers them. i played little league for one year and said “screw this” and went back to the sandlot games. 7-8 kids out of my neighborhood ended up playing high school baseball at a really big school.
    our games were way better than little league. it is a different world. i can absolutely say kids in those generations were a lot more self reliant than kids now. it’s kind of like pitchers being babied now compared to the old days and not being able to stay as healthy as the older pitchers.

    there is a certain amount of risks that you have to let kids take or they’re going to end up
    limiting what they can do. these kids really went all out doing something very cool and it gets snuffed. another case of adults doing the wrong thing for all the right reasons.

  37. Someone Else July 11th, 2008 at 9:33 am

    What I notice with this team, is that sometimes they beat themselves (bad approaches at the plate) and sometimes they just get beat. In past seasons, if they were, say, 55-35 right about now, we’d just shrug and say they just got beat. This season, it’s because all of those overpaid, worthless hacks just don’t care, etc., blah blah.

    Maholm was dealing last night – that sinker to RHB’s was deadly. If he can pitch like that if any consistency, he’ll be a damn solid arm. Check his game log – he’s very inconsistent, but he shows flashes of brilliance: http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/.....008/482825

    (of course, it always seems these inconsistent pitchers are consistently at the top of their game vs. the Yankees, no?)

  38. Doreen July 11th, 2008 at 9:33 am

    Someone Else -

    It might be a myth overall, and certainly your stats show he’s done fine with RISP, but it seems clear that he isn’t doing fine so far this season. If he lives up to his stats, then I’m sure the second half will be much, much better. I’m hoping, anyway.

    I guess it is just frustrating to watch so many opportunities slip by, and you can’t deny he’s supposed to be “The Guy,” you know?

    Anyway, it’s starting to get very confusing – stats, that is. You bring up RBI, and people say that’s not a good stat to look at; so you look at RISP, and people say it’s selective stats and that’s not good enough to make a judgment. I just know what my eyes are telling my as I’m watching a game, and it’s frustrating to say the least.

  39. Someone Else July 11th, 2008 at 9:35 am

    “it’s kind of like pitchers being babied now compared to the old days and not being able to stay as healthy as the older pitchers.”

    :coughs:

    Bull$***.

    Read CB’s post yesterday about Toronto’s pitchers. Those pitchers aren’t babied at all.

    McGowan, who has shown the ability to be an ace, could very well have had his career ended.

  40. Patrick â„¢ July 11th, 2008 at 9:39 am

    “McGowan, who has shown the ability to be an ace, could very well have had his career ended.”

    Actually it turns out that the MRI on McGowan’s shoulder showed no further damage compared to an MRI done last year so he just has some inflammation. He really lucked out, he doesn’t need surgery and with some rest/rehab he should be fine. Toronto does abuse their young pitchers though, if they had done a better job its pretty likely this problem would never have happened with McGowan.

  41. DMan July 11th, 2008 at 9:40 am

    Depressing day in Yankee land, yet again.

  42. Someone Else July 11th, 2008 at 9:42 am

    “Someone Else -

    It might be a myth overall, and certainly your stats show he’s done fine with RISP, but it seems clear that he isn’t doing fine so far this season. If he lives up to his stats, then I’m sure the second half will be much, much better. I’m hoping, anyway.

    I guess it is just frustrating to watch so many opportunities slip by, and you can’t deny he’s supposed to be “The Guy,” you know?

    Anyway, it’s starting to get very confusing – stats, that is. You bring up RBI, and people say that’s not a good stat to look at; so you look at RISP, and people say it’s selective stats and that’s not good enough to make a judgment. I just know what my eyes are telling my as I’m watching a game, and it’s frustrating to say the least.”

    :shrug: I just think you have to take the aggregate picture. The guy can hit; he’s proven that before. However, he is NOT the pure, all around hitter that, say, Albert Pujols is.

    Albert Pujols very rarely gets fooled; he has the bat handling ability of Cano (rarely whiffs at a pitch within 6 inches of the plate), the patience of Abreu, and the power of ARod.

    ARod can be fooled by good breaking pitches, and does NOT have the ability to consistently make contact on pitches outside the strike zone. Well, essentially what that gives you, is in ‘clutch situations’, like RISP, playoffs, etc., if ARod faces a pitcher that has good breaking stuff, and is intelligent in his pitch selection, he can be beat. Of course, he can also be beat in the same way in non-clutch situations.

    I just think picking out RISP stats is like picking out Thursday stats, or, say, ARod bats .247 at Tropicana, so he should be benched when the Yankees are at the Rays, etc. With the number of appearances these guys make, there are bound to be ‘fake’ patterns that crop up.

    SOMEONE in the majors is going to bat over .450 on Thursday day games in June – that doesn’t mean there’s something special about that batter on Thursday day games in June.

  43. Someone Else July 11th, 2008 at 9:43 am

    ““McGowan, who has shown the ability to be an ace, could very well have had his career ended.”

    Actually it turns out that the MRI on McGowan’s shoulder showed no further damage compared to an MRI done last year so he just has some inflammation. He really lucked out, he doesn’t need surgery and with some rest/rehab he should be fine. Toronto does abuse their young pitchers though, if they had done a better job its pretty likely this problem would never have happened with McGowan.”

    That’s definitely good news. But I don’t see any remotely excusable reason for why he should have made his last four starts, given they already knew he was hurting.

  44. steel July 11th, 2008 at 9:47 am

    At some point the New York Yankees will have to realize that the best and cheapest way to solve their offensive malaise is to sign mr. bonds the fact is there is no other real option out there that will not cost them a arm and a leg. All of baseball knows that their one weakness is hitting posada matsui melky on and on there are a lot of dead wood in the lineup and They have to address it.

  45. Doreen July 11th, 2008 at 9:47 am

    Randy l -

    Not to get too philosophical, but you have to wonder what happened? I am of a generation whose parents let them stay out in the summer from dawn to dusk without contact. We ice skated on ponds far from any supervision, we bicycled on busy streets – my mom was one of the few who worked full-time and we were on our own from 3-5:30 each day after school, in fact we started dinner. I barely let my kids touch the microwave! We got through it. Sometimes we got hurt, that’s true. And I don’t think bicycle helmets, etc., are a bad thing. But somewhere something’s gone awry.

    I know the world is a more dangerous place or at least the news coverage of today sure makes it seem so. Are we so obsessed with our need for perfection and safety that we can’t see the forest for the trees?

  46. randy l July 11th, 2008 at 9:49 am

    ” Livan was doing fine on Wednesday, but he threw a pitch at 88 MPH and became drunk with power. ”

    i saw that and wondered what the heck he was doing. there was some weird mojo in the air that day at fenway. even beckett got hammered. 37 hits that day for both teams.

    speaking of sandlot baseball, i actually like watching someone like livan who grew up playing baseball the way we did( no nick in sf, it’s not because he grew up when we were in the fifties)

    i think latin players are more creative because they play the unstructured kind of baseball we did. i really get tired of watching american kids from so cal, fl, and tx who have played 150 games a year since they were 6 but who play likes clones because of too much of the same coaching.

    it’s like the kids are often jaded by the time they hit pro ball. the latin kids have a flair about them that reminds me of the good old days.

  47. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 9:51 am

    “At some point the New York Yankees will have to realize that the best and cheapest way to solve their offensive malaise is to sign mr. bonds”

    dont hold your breath. aint gonna happen.

  48. myrtlebeachfan July 11th, 2008 at 9:52 am

    It honestly doesn’t bother me much to the point that I’m doubting this club because of our loss last night.

    We have trouble against lefties for some odd reason…
    Giambi needs to start against lefties. Sure, he can’t hit them as well as righties but I’ve seen him hit homers off of lefties pretty often and walk against them even more often.\

    No reason to keep him out, even if Posada is a switch hitter. We need to bench Molina. I absolutely love the guy, buy playing him 6-7 games in a row hurts the offense a lot. We need to make two deals before the deadline. A rental outfielder (like Bobby) and a rental pitcher. Nothing major. Just some solid players. We can always make a big deal for a good bullpen arm, but that’s ALWAYS risky. I say Marte, Fuentes, or nothing.

  49. DMan July 11th, 2008 at 9:58 am

    Yankees just can’t click on all cylinders. Who knows why.

    It’s tough to watch most of the time.

    It seems like the games they lose completely overshadow their wins… I know it’s like that every season, but it seems more apparent this year.

  50. Fran July 11th, 2008 at 9:58 am

    “We need to bench Molina. I absolutely love the guy, buy playing him 6-7 games in a row hurts the offense a lot.”

    Molina hurts the offense but he helps the defense. If the Yanks are playing a running team having Posada at catcher now hurts the defense. I think that the Yanks are stronger right now with Molina behind the plate and Posada at DH.

  51. Someone Else July 11th, 2008 at 10:02 am

    “Randy l -

    Not to get too philosophical, but you have to wonder what happened? I am of a generation whose parents let them stay out in the summer from dawn to dusk without contact. We ice skated on ponds far from any supervision, we bicycled on busy streets – my mom was one of the few who worked full-time and we were on our own from 3-5:30 each day after school, in fact we started dinner. I barely let my kids touch the microwave! We got through it. Sometimes we got hurt, that’s true. And I don’t think bicycle helmets, etc., are a bad thing. But somewhere something’s gone awry.

    I know the world is a more dangerous place or at least the news coverage of today sure makes it seem so. Are we so obsessed with our need for perfection and safety that we can’t see the forest for the trees?”

    :shrug: I’m 24 years old. I grew up without the parental over-supervision, as did most of my friends growing up.

  52. randy l July 11th, 2008 at 10:03 am

    “Read CB’s post yesterday about Toronto’s pitchers. Those pitchers aren’t babied at all.”

    that was a good post by cb, but the problem is that you can’t take a young pitcher who hasn’t grown throwing a zillion pitches and suddenly have him throw too many. “too many” is relative to how he was developed.

    it’s anecdotal, but i’m 59 and i have no trouble throwing 50-100 balls a day as hard as i can( but probably not as fast as i think). in my mid fourties i threw 300-400 pitches regularly in bp to young pro players who used to try to get me to stop because they thought i was going to blow out my arm.

    it’s how you grow up throwing and how long you maintain it. i’ve never stopped throwing. throwing is not the unnatural thing that most people think it is. it’s hardwired into human’s neural circuitry.
    http://williamcalvin.com/bk2/bk2ch4.htm

    calvin says language itself piggy backed on the throwing circuitry evolved in early man.

    maybe that explains the addiction to baseball and blogging.

  53. Doreen July 11th, 2008 at 10:06 am

    Someone Else -

    You’re lucky, I guess. :)

  54. Drew July 11th, 2008 at 10:07 am

    Isn’t Hank technically tampering?

  55. raymagnetic ®™ July 11th, 2008 at 10:08 am

    So the topic of today is A-Rod can’t hit with RISP. I’m sure it’ll eventually shift back to Cabrera being the sole reason the Yankees have been inconsistent this year. New day, new scapegoat, what else is new? :roll:

  56. Jorge Steinbrenner July 11th, 2008 at 10:10 am

    People need to lighten up a bit. This team is going to lose games, and its going to lose games to teams it is better than.

    We just won our two against Boston and swept the Rays. This team should not be in contention, but still finds itself, not only in a better position than at this point last year, but right in the middle of it all. We now get to play back in the American League, with an actual DH, and against a weakened Blue Jay team. Let’s relax and enjoy baseball.

    Fans in an awful lot of cities where they NEVER win championships have figured out ways to enjoy their team and sport. A whole lot of you (non-trolls included) stand to learn a lesson from those folks.

  57. Fredo Corleone July 11th, 2008 at 10:11 am

    “Isn’t Hank technically tampering?”

    Wondered about that myself. He did indicate that he’d offer when he retired from managing, so that may allow him to skate. Pretty iffy though.

    Not sure I’d want to be a manager with Piniella around in an advisory capacity. Too easy for Lou to unretire and get back in it.

  58. Wave Your Hat July 11th, 2008 at 10:12 am

    “Molina hurts the offense but he helps the defense. If the Yanks are playing a running team having Posada at catcher now hurts the defense. I think that the Yanks are stronger right now with Molina behind the plate and Posada at DH.”

    This is a common feeling but it misses the forest for the trees, as the saying goes.

    Due to Posada’s ailing (?) shoulder, the Yanks may be better with Molina behind the plate right now, though I’m not sure.

    However, Molina’s defense does not make up for a full strength Posada, and without an effective Posada as the full-time catcher the Yanks won’t have enough to make the playoffs.

    Molina will just help us be a better also-ran if Posada can’t catch.

    That’s just the way it is.

  59. Jorge Steinbrenner July 11th, 2008 at 10:16 am

    “So the topic of today is A-Rod can’t hit with RISP. I’m sure it’ll eventually shift back to Cabrera being the sole reason the Yankees have been inconsistent this year. New day, new scapegoat, what else is new?”

    are you surprised, really?

    there’s really nothing ob substance that can sustain a good conversion on this site 24/7, so this is what substitutes for it.

    folks who complain about Molina, Melky, Christian, and whoever else deserve a world in which the YES Network plays nothing but Darrell May and Tim Redding’s Yankee starts in a constant loop all day.

  60. Doreen July 11th, 2008 at 10:17 am

    Jorge Steinbrenner -

    By the time the game starts later today, it’s a new game. And I always have an optimistic outlook before the game. Anything can happen, you’re 27 outs away from victory.

    But I still like to discuss, a little bit, the things about this team that drive me nuts. And you know what, all those other fans of the teams who haven’t won anything in years, one of things they enjoy is commiserating – it is part of what brings them together. That and the hope that today will be different – today they won’t lose!

  61. Francis The Black Baseball Player Advocate July 11th, 2008 at 10:24 am

    this team really needs a guy who can hit crappy pitching.

  62. Fredo Corleone July 11th, 2008 at 10:25 am

    “However, Molina’s defense does not make up for a full strength Posada, and without an effective Posada as the full-time catcher the Yanks won’t have enough to make the playoffs.”

    Merely by having Posada as their regular catcher, they are saying we are OK with Posada’s defense, which on his good days is average, because of what he brings with the bat. What they’re saying with Molina in there as a regular of late is that Posada’s physical condition (read: shoulder) is bad enough that he can’t even give them ordinary defense behind the plate and as good as he can be offensively, it doesn’t wash out his present defensive shortcomings.

    We can only assume the shoulder is in really bad shape.

  63. Francis The Black Baseball Player Advocate July 11th, 2008 at 10:27 am

    Posada is worried about his fish tank

  64. TKinDC July 11th, 2008 at 10:28 am

    Last night’s game was pretty rough (and that is just the negativity on the blog :( )Honestly, I think that we find ourselves at 4 games behind the BoSox and also 4 games in the loss column out of the Wild Card.  I remain optimistic.I think Cashman will make a move in the next couple of weeks to either improve the bench or (fingers crossed) get an effective lefty out of the pen.If Matsui and Posada are not going to get healthy then I think we have a real problem and the pessimists will be right – but we are in such a better position than we have been in the past and I still believe in the character and talent on the team that they will pull through.

  65. Fredo Corleone July 11th, 2008 at 10:34 am

    “Honestly, I think that we find ourselves at 4 games behind the BoSox”

    It’s July 11th. They were 4 games behind the Sox in the loss column on May 11. After awhile the “we’re only 4 games behind the Sox in the loss column” line is going to get stale.

  66. Wave Your Hat July 11th, 2008 at 10:35 am

    “We can only assume the shoulder is in really bad shape.”

    Yeah, that’s what I’m thinking too.

    But if that’s the case, the Yanks ought to do the smart thing and be sellers at the trade deadline, because without Posada we aren’t going anywhere.

    In my gut, though, I don’t see the Yanks as sellers.

  67. Jorge Steinbrenner July 11th, 2008 at 10:35 am

    Forget Marte. How can we get that McClouth guy? :)

    couldn’t one of us be good at hitting really crapping pitching?

  68. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 10:35 am

    “Last night’s game was pretty rough (and that is just the negativity on the blog)”

    im not normally around for game threads, but i popped in last night to see what was going on… have to admit, it was really unbearable to sit down and read along with the comments during the game.

  69. randy l July 11th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    ” I think that we find ourselves at 4 games behind the BoSox and also 4 games in the loss column out of the Wild Card. I remain optimistic.”

    tk in dc
    i keep having to tell myself that yeah this yankee team isn’t very good compared to past yankee teams, but then no other team is either.

    the red sox , a’s, twins, rays, etc all have problems too.

    this new revenue sharing parity is a new animal.

    and as you say, the yankees are right in it.

  70. Francis The Black Baseball Player Advocate July 11th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    youd think a line up that has Justin Christian, Mike Mussina, Melky Cabrera and Jose Molina in it could score more than 2 runs

  71. TKinDC July 11th, 2008 at 10:47 am

    Fredo –

    I think we can agree that the only standings that really matter are the final standings. There are 2 1/2 months to go in the season so getting grumpy about the current state of things – while possibly theraputic – is not particularly how I want to spend my time.

    Who knows what will happen – I still don’t believe in the D’Rays and I also doubt whether Papi will be able to make a comeback from the wrist injury.

    That is why proclamations that “this is not a playoff team” are just rank speculation (but that’s the fun of blogging i guess)

  72. Russell NY July 11th, 2008 at 10:47 am

    “youd think a line up that has Justin Christian, Mike Mussina, Melky Cabrera and Jose Molina in it could score more than 2 runs”

    OUTFIELD HELP PLEASEEEEE

  73. TKinDC July 11th, 2008 at 10:49 am

    randy –

    That story about the whiffle ball game being shut down is absolutely ridiculous. Kids keep getting fatter and fatter spending their time on X-Box and the town decides to do that?

    Disgusting – good catch by you!

  74. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 10:52 am

    “OUTFIELD HELP PLEASEEEEE”

    hmm… well Matsui is hitting off a tee, but still might need knee surgery.

    Damon is still in too much pain to take part in baseball activities.

    Justin Christian and Brett Gardner, well, lack the ability to add some punch in the lineup. i think thats fair to say.

    what LF could possibly be available on the cheap who could add some punch to the lineup, and help the offense be a little more consistent?

    hmm…

  75. Fredo Corleone July 11th, 2008 at 10:53 am

    “I also doubt whether Papi will be able to make a comeback from the wrist injury”

    Would seem an Ortiz comeback is a lock at this point from what I’ve read. Things have apparently been going well. Question would be what he comes back as. Whatever it is, it’s probably an offensive improvement over Coco Crisp.

  76. Wave Your Hat July 11th, 2008 at 10:53 am

    “what LF could possibly be available on the cheap who could add some punch to the lineup, and help the offense be a little more consistent?”

    The Yanks should have thought of that three weeks ago. Then he who must not be named would almost be ready to help us now.

  77. Fredo Corleone July 11th, 2008 at 11:04 am

    “Then he who must not be named would almost be ready to help us now.”

    If HE is who I think he is, he’d need a golf cart to adequately man left field at Yankee Stadium.

  78. TKinDC July 11th, 2008 at 11:06 am

    From what I have heard from people who know more about hitting than me (roughly 3 billion people :) ) wrist injuries are awful to come back from.

    I don’t expect Papi to be anywhere near his normal self – frankly he was having an awful year before he even got hurt.

  79. Wave Your Hat July 11th, 2008 at 11:08 am

    He Who Must Not Be Named would probably slot in more as a DH. That assumes Matsui isn’t coming back any time soon and Posada could catch, although He Who etc is probably still better than either of them.

  80. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 11:09 am

    “If HE is who I think he is, he’d need a golf cart to adequately man left field at Yankee Stadium.”

    especially if Molina is going to be the everyday catcher, id rather give up a little defense in LF to have a power bat in the lineup than Molina in the lineup everyday to go along with Gardner or Christian at this point.

    right now, you just cant have Melky, Molina, and Gardner take 3 spots in the lineup and expect the offense to score much.

  81. Patrick â„¢ July 11th, 2008 at 11:11 am

    “We can only assume the shoulder is in really bad shape.”

    Your logic has a flaw though. With Matsui out, there is not an every-day DH. Girardi can DH either Giambi or Posada and sub Betemit in at first or Molina in at C. Betemit is terrible at 1B while Molina is a great catcher. The fielding benefit with Molina over Posada is a LOT greater than any benefit we get from Betemit over Giambi. I don’t think Posada’s shoulder is in any worse shape then it was a few weeks ago. My guess is he will catch tonight and catch 2 out of every 3 games (or more) when Matsui gets back.

  82. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 11:14 am

    “I don’t think Posada’s shoulder is in any worse shape then it was a few weeks ago. My guess is he will catch tonight and catch 2 out of every 3 games (or more) when Matsui gets back.”

    thats if Matsui comes back.

    but if you’ve seen Posada try and throw, its not just as simple as flawed logic. he cant throw. he’ll be ok aganst teams without a real threat for sb’s, but against teams who can exploit the weakness, he cant be behind the plate.

  83. TKinDC July 11th, 2008 at 11:15 am

    I think what is going on with all the rest the Yanks are giving Posada is that they know that with the all-star break and this 5 game stretch now completed they are essentially getting a 15-day DL rehab period in to strengthen the shoulder.

    One night on then one night off doesn’t give them nearly as much benefit as an extended rest.

    If I’m right, then i’m surprised they didn’t tell Posada about this tactic – of course I’m just speculating.

  84. Fredo Corleone July 11th, 2008 at 11:18 am

    That’s true Patrick. We’ll know more when/if Matsui returns.

  85. Wave Your Hat July 11th, 2008 at 11:22 am

    The key as to the Yanks thinking about Posada is what happens in the Toronto series.

    Toronto is not a base-stealing team, so it would be logical to have Posada catch unless he is really hurt.

    If Molina or (remember Moeller?) starts 2 of 3, then you have to conclude its not just for better defense but that Posada really can’t catch effectively.

  86. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 11:22 am

    from Cashman, Newsday:

    “Barry Bonds is not considered an option. Cashman said: “I guess I can say that they have engaged us in the past and I’ve told them that I have too many people, maybe not too many people with the same ability, but too many people at the same spot that you have a lot of dollars committed to.”

  87. Wave Your Hat July 11th, 2008 at 11:26 am

    “Barry Bonds is not considered an option. Cashman said: “I guess I can say that they have engaged us in the past and I’ve told them that I have too many people, maybe not too many people with the same ability, but too many people at the same spot that you have a lot of dollars committed to.”

    Of course most of them are injured, but who’d let a little thing like that change one’s thinking?

  88. whozat July 11th, 2008 at 11:35 am

    “Of course most of them are injured, but who’d let a little thing like that change one’s thinking?”

    Perhaps Cashman has a liiittle more information about when/whether those guys will be able to come back, no? I mean…if Matsui’s hitting off a tee and his knee is OK, and will be off the DL in two weeks…and Bonds wouldn’t be ready for two weeks at minimum…what’s the point of calling Bonds?

  89. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 11:40 am

    “if Matsui’s hitting off a tee and his knee is OK, and will be off the DL in two weeks”

    but if his knee isnt ok, or he predictably reinjures the knee after a couple games, Cashman really leaves this team short offensively.

  90. Brandon (Jeter GIDP: 13) (Johan Santana HR count: 13 and a SP) July 11th, 2008 at 11:48 am

    Would seem an Ortiz comeback is a lock at this point from what I’ve read. Things have apparently been going well. Question would be what he comes back as. Whatever it is, it’s probably an offensive improvement over Coco Crisp.

    The guy has yet to swing at live pitching, real 90 + mph pitches, it’s not like non surgery on your wrist is going to completely heal. That guy if he gets back to his Big Papi swinging ways would surprise alot of MLB personel. You’d have to assume 4 weeks nonactivity plus a full time DH role and fastballs/cutters in on the hands is going to hurt Ortiz this season.

  91. Brandon (Jeter GIDP: 13) (Johan Santana HR count: 13 and a SP) July 11th, 2008 at 11:49 am

    but if his knee isnt ok, or he predictably reinjures the knee after a couple games, Cashman really leaves this team short offensively.

    It’s like we spoke about yesterday don’t expect Barry Bonds riding on a white horse in Yankees Stadium :)

  92. whozat July 11th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    “but if his knee isnt ok, or he predictably reinjures the knee after a couple games, Cashman really leaves this team short offensively.”

    So…they should sign Bonds now, cram them both onto the roster, and leave Girardi with a bench full of DHes?

    If there’s a way that Cash can under-the-radar keep Bonds on the line until we know what’s up with Matsui, that’d be great. Maybe he’s managing to do that and just keeping mum. Or, maybe they’ve really decided that the media circus just isn’t worth it. I dunno. I do know that Cash never tips his hand unless Hank forces him. And I also know that I wouldn’t want to sign Bonds up unless I know that Matsui’s not going to be back.

  93. Francis The Black Baseball Player Advocate July 11th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    I dont care if the he would have to be carfted to the batters box for all of his at bats, Id still take Barry Bonds in a heartbeat……..He is still the best hitter on the planet.

  94. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 11:52 am

    oh, i know, Brandon.

    i just dont know what to say anymore. just frustrated, i guess.

  95. Francis The Black Baseball Player Advocate July 11th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    Forget riding on a white horse..they should launch him out of a cannon from center field to the batters box, that would be so badass.

  96. TurnTwo July 11th, 2008 at 11:57 am

    “So…they should sign Bonds now, cram them both onto the roster, and leave Girardi with a bench full of DHes?”

    well, not for nothing, but it certainly wouldnt be half-bad to look at a bench and see a Matsui, Giambi, Bonds, or Posada (odd man out that game) on any given day sitting there to give the opposing manager agida in the late innings.

  97. Francis The Black Baseball Player Advocate July 11th, 2008 at 11:58 am

    for the record, Ive always been a Bonds fan…I even have one of those t-shirts that say “screw everyone, I love Barry” on it.

  98. Wave Your Hat July 11th, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Well, the public news at least is not optimistic as far as Matsui goes. Odds are he will be nowhere close to 100% for the rest of the year at best.

    Our speculation Bonds is just that. Although I’d personally rather have Bonds than a less than 100% Matsui, It seems pretty clear that, for whatever reason, Bonds just isn’t going to be signed.

    Given all our problems, I hope the Yanks are talking to Moose’s, Giambi’s and Andy’s (Damon’s too, if his injury is better) agents to see if there’s a chance their no-trade clauses could be waived. Then the Yanks could maybe be sellers at the trade deadline and get something to help next year.

  99. Fan mail from some flounder... July 11th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Posada needs to STFU and play where ever the Yankees want him to play. Considering the contract he got, essentially paying him for past performance, makes him one lucky MoFo. His bum shoulder, which by the way at his age makes it “bum for life”, means he can’t throw anybody out, which means he’s a defensive liability, which means walks & singles become auto-doubles. Molina can’t outhit my dead grandmother but at least its not a track meet on the base paths! Yo Jorge! We the fans don’t really care what you “like to do”, we would like you supremely overpaid Yankees to win another freakin title !!

  100. Francis The Black Baseball Player Advocate July 11th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    I dont want to go to the bathroom on the ferry, its dirty.

  101. Lambchop Louie July 11th, 2008 at 12:21 pm

    Problem with Bonds :

    . He’ll want his No. 25 and Giambi says no. The 1st installment of bad chemistry begins.

    . Bonds tries reversing the number. Dave Eiland says he’s happy with No. 52. The 2nd installment of bad chemistry continues.

    . Bonds wants Thurman Munson’s old locker. Bonds is shown the door and soon headed for Newark Liberty.

  102. vinny-b July 11th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    lol.

  103. JoeT 28 in 09!! .220 average, 17% CS = AL ALL STAR!! July 11th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    He is still the best hitter on the planet.

    no he’s not

  104. stuart July 11th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    I am going to try to think like Peter and some of the other less astute fans and give some mock(to me) headlines, suggestions, and reasons for the Yankee situation..FOr the about 33% of moron Yankee fans they actually will think this is why the yanks are 6 games over 500 instead of the failure of; jeter, arod, hideki,cano, jorge, and on and on.. THe point is the guys who make the most $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ are suppose to produce the most, it is a novel concept in Yankeeland but in most of the world that is how things work.

    Yanks lose because Melky only has 4 more homeruns on the season then the captain… Yanks pleased with Cano’s almost 300 OBP. They hope Cano keeps that OBP at that high level the rest of the season. Yanks hope Arod can continue to hit in the clutch at his scorching avg. of about 240.. Giambi comes thru again in the clutch to raise his BA with RISP to almost 180. Abreu makes another sparkling catch in the outfield by slamming into the wall and taking away the base clearing double by Ortiz.

    AStute Yankee fans argue over melky vs gardner instead of why jeter, arod, giambi, hideky, jorge, and others are stealing there paycheck form hal and hank Steinny….

    Astute under 12 yankee fans want cashman to trade away all top tier prospects for short term bandaids whom are old and overpaid so they fit in well with this group of overpaid and underachieving yanks led by the left side of the infield……

    astute yankee fans want to extend Jorge for another 3 yrs so he can catch when he is 43….

    yankee fans whom have never seen any of there top prospects but know they are worthless want to eliminate the whole minore league system and just sign free agents and over priced talent going forward…

    yeah the lsoe last night was Justin CHristians fault not arods lack of clutchness, or cano, or there weak 2 pitch AB’s agains Pat(steve Carlton) Maholm…..

  105. JohnC July 11th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Malachai Says:

    “He who walks behind the rows will determine the Yanks fate this season”

  106. Keith July 11th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    One check swing or one overswing and the wrist of Ortiz call swell up again. He’s not the type of hitter with a level swing to place the ball over the infield or become a gap hitter.

  107. stuart July 11th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    along with Bonds astute Yankee fans are clamoring for Sammy Sosa and asking if David COne can come back for the last 2 months…

    These astute fans thinks with Bonds incredible speed and fielding prowess and hell the Yanks always need another good lefty bat maybe they can sign Bonds to a 3 yr deal and he can get a work furlough program on weekends so he can play home weekend games for the yanks and possibly platoon with sosa or any other old, overpaid, slow talent that the yanks can hire…

    bonds says he goes to the same trainer that Moises Alou goes to and hopes for similar results…..

  108. Jorge Steinbrenner July 11th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Two of our outfielders are on the DL, but are coming back! What do we do for a few weeks? Why, sign Barry Bonds!!!

    I could see adding a cheap outfield bat for the bench, but the best plan is really sucking it up and waiting for Damon and Matsui to return. What this should mean is Jeter, A-Rod, Posada, Cano, Giambi, and Melky carrying the load more, but I guess they don’t agree with that assessment.

    I guess Brett Gardner’s magical powers would only appear to his fans if he was manning centerfield.

  109. 86w183 July 11th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    How about signing Bonds AND Clemens. Perhaps Sparky Lyle can be that lefty in the bullpen and Don Baylor can provide some RH power.

    An older, sluggish team looking for a spark doesn’t need to look to a surly, indicted 43-year old on one leg.

  110. pat July 11th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Lambchop Louie

    Any relation to Pollyanna Porkchop?

  111. Francis The Black Baseball Player Advocate July 11th, 2008 at 12:41 pm

    Joe T…Barry Bonds is still the best hitter on the planet, Im not sure how anyone can argue otherwise…Albert Pujols is a close second though.

  112. S.A.- Just win games and can the offense stop being so offensive? July 11th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    Mike and the Mad Dog back together again today..
    This might be interesting…or totally boring….

  113. Francis The Black Baseball Player Advocate July 11th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    86, yeah the yankees couldnt use a guy with a 1000+ OPS in their line up.

    And the sparks would come when Barry starts hitting home runs out of yankee stadium like he almost did a few years ago during interleague play….6 more rows and that ball leaves the stadium.

  114. Someone Else July 11th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    “Joe T…Barry Bonds is still the best hitter on the planet, Im not sure how anyone can argue otherwise…Albert Pujols is a close second though.”

    :coughs: BS :coughs:

  115. Mike Mineo July 11th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    Bonds is never playing in the major leagues again. Any conversation regarding the matter is irrelevant to the Yankees.

    the problem with this team is half of the lineup. Less than half of the lineup can hit, the other half consists of bench players in the vein of Molina, Gardner, and Melky. Posada is over the hill and Abreu doesn’t have much left in the tank either. the Yankees basically seem to hope for an amazing pitching performance with a dramatic walkoff by A-Rod, Giambi, or Jeter to win at this point.

    it’s really quite pathetic. it’s a shame that their farm system is so weak that they can’t grab any worthwhile offensive players. they’ll probably end up signing Lofton or someone to “supplement the bench” as the big deadline move. I hear rumors about Fuentes and Marte… but the bullpen is one of the FEW bright spots on this team. Sure, they lost last night due to the bullpen, but this team needs more HITTING. Matsui and Damon can’t be counted on to return quickly and healthy; they are both aging players whose injuries are not the most enticing.

  116. Patrick â„¢ July 11th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    “Joe T…Barry Bonds is still the best hitter on the planet, Im not sure how anyone can argue otherwise…Albert Pujols is a close second though.”

    By looking at statistics. He was a top-5 hitter last year but not the best. Ortiz, Rodriguez, Pena all had better offensive years.

  117. saucY July 11th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    “And the sparks would come when Barry starts hitting home runs out of yankee stadium like he almost did a few years ago during interleague play….6 more rows and that ball leaves the stadium.”

    this was also in 2002, close to, if not the height of his juicing career. his OPS the last few seasons is, IMO, a product of pitchers not wanting to give him an opportunity more than anything. not that the pitchers mentality would change if he were in pinstripes.

    umm, where the hell am i going with this? i have no idea…

  118. Brandon (Jeter GIDP: 13) (Johan Santana HR count: 13 and a SP) July 11th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    So when does Richie Sexson sign ?

  119. Jorge Steinbrenner July 11th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    “this was also in 2002, close to, if not the height of his juicing career. his OPS the last few seasons is, IMO, a product of pitchers not wanting to give him an opportunity more than anything. not that the pitchers mentality would change if he were in pinstripes.

    umm, where the hell am i going with this? i have no idea…”

    what you’re saying is that you’d love to have Mickey Mantle back too, but he’s dead.

  120. Don Vito A. Bellamo July 11th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    52-43 headed into the All-Star game….GO..FIGHT…WIN !

  121. retire #51 July 11th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    our farm system isnt weak you idiot. we dont want it to be weak, thats why we aren’t trading away all of our prospects

  122. TKinDC July 11th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Francessa has finally waved the white flag on BRONSON ARROYO!

    Hallelujah!

  123. Fran July 11th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Well at least Mike has given up on trading for Bronson Arroyo.

  124. S.A.- Just win games and can the offense stop being so offensive? July 11th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    The love for Arroyo is over. Finally!

  125. ANKSY July 11th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Its just a hunch but I think Matsui’s current knee problem is similar to last years, it’s just the other knee this time.

    If that’s what it is, I wouldn’t expect him to be a reliable OF later this year if he can’t DH on it right now. Could he be an occasional OF in the 2nd half? Maybe, depends on how it feels but I suspect it would flare up again at some point.

    My gut feeling is (yes, it’s just a guess) he’ll need the same kind of procedure on this knee, then he’ll be back in full swing next year.

    I didn’t think Damon’s throwing arm could actually get worse than it was, but he hurt it. He’ll be touch-and-go for a little while at least.

    Me thinks a reliable short-term or half-season OF upgrade needs to come from someone else, whether by FA, trade, Christian/Gardner stepping up, or another call-up.

    Barry Bonds is NOT the answer. This year there wouldn’t be any room on the roster for a no-glove pull-hitting power lefty unless Giambi was traded away, and that’s not going to happen.

    If Bonds was still the young all-around stud he was before his steroid-bloated HR binge seasons, he would’ve been great to have on the team.

    Now 10 years ago the team didn’t need help from someone like Bonds (THAT year’s team didn’t need help from anyone) but he sure as heck ain’t going to get 10 years younger if they were to sign him now.

  126. Brandon (Jeter GIDP: 13) (Johan Santana HR count: 13 and a SP) July 11th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    What ? —- > What I miss !

  127. JoeT 28 in 09!! .220 average, 17% CS = AL ALL STAR!! July 11th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    “Joe T…Barry Bonds is still the best hitter on the planet, Im not sure how anyone can argue otherwise…Albert Pujols is a close second though.”

    I can name quite a few players that I wouldn’t want to have to face ahead of Bonds…..
    A-Rod, Puljos, Manny, Ortiz, Hamilton, Dye, Cust, Miguel Cabrera, Carlos Pena, Justin Morneau, Howard, Utley, Dunn, HanRam, Berkman, Braun, Fielder, Wright.

    That’s just going off pure power numbers. Bonds is 45 years old, off the juice, and hasn’t played baseball in I don’t know how many months. At 45 people not named Julio Franco can’t just step in the box after a long lay-off and be expected to put up power numbers and save a struggling offense.

  128. S.A.- Just win games and can the offense stop being so offensive? July 11th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Wow..now fatso and fruitloops are giggling with each other..hello twilight zone
    Fruitloops almost said a bad word..lol

  129. Lambchop Louie July 11th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Pat -

    Funny you asked. Pollyanna Porkchop is my cousin. She has a butcher shop in Hell’s Kitchen.

  130. Brandon (Jeter GIDP: 13) (Johan Santana HR count: 13 and a SP) July 11th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    Wow..now fatso and fruitloops are giggling with each other..hello twilight zone
    Fruitloops almost said a bad word..lol

    :(

  131. Russell NY July 11th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Haven’t seen SJ44 in quite a while.

  132. S.A.- Just win games and can the offense stop being so offensive? July 11th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    If Mussina won last night-he was gonna be named to be a replacement in the ASG?

  133. Brandon (Jeter GIDP: 13) (Johan Santana HR count: 13 and a SP) July 11th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    I do got to say John Sterling sticking his hands in the ice cream makes me not want to buy ice cream at Yankees Stadium. Just disgusting.

  134. S.A.- Just win games and can the offense stop being so offensive? July 11th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    What Sterling did was gross…
    Where have those fingers been?

  135. Joe Monte July 11th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Here’s an idea: Trade for Carlos Lee. The Astros are out of it w/ the Brewers and the Cubs way ahead of them and they should start rebuilding. I’m not sure how much they would want in return, but he could come at lesser cost than Holliday for a right handed bat.

  136. Fredo Corleone July 11th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    “I’m not sure how much they would want in return, but he could come at lesser cost than Holliday for a right handed bat.”

    It would be less than Holliday, but it would still be a lot. Just how many DH’s do you want to see on this team anyway??? Lee couldn’t possibly cover left field in Yankee Stadium.

    One other thing worth noting is that he’s owed $18.5 million per season thru 2012. Not a wise investment.

  137. Wave Your Hat July 11th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    That’s a great idea. Let’s get another old guy with a really big long-term contract. He’ll fit in well here.

  138. Angel {zOMG!!11!!!1 Ur Yankeezzz r epic fail 4 this yr!!111!!! } July 11th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    I loved Pollyanna Porkchop’s posts. I wish they’d come back. They certainly bought humor and levity when it was needed around here.

  139. Joe Monte July 11th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    I agree, a long term problem w/ that contract, but he could easily slip into the DH role in the American League.

  140. Mark July 11th, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Right on, Hank! The luxury tax idea is the worst thing to come out of MLB. Imagine subsidizing millionaires.


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