Comments on: Holliday in New York? Not so fast

By: Derek J.

Derek J. — Sun, 20 Jul 2008 01:16:13 +0000

hey i love haliday

By: The Dude

The Dude — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:51:09 +0000

And for the record, you’d be insane not to trade for Matt Holliday.

By: The Dude

The Dude — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 19:49:16 +0000

I don’t see it anywhere here (I only scanned the thread)...but Richie Sexton is a Yankee, according to rotoworld.com.

By: Greg Mandel

Greg Mandel — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:19:21 +0000

Rick: what “resources” exactly would have been burned by making the Santana deal? Hughes, Kennedy, Melky???? Yeah, we’ve all seen what great resources they are this year. Kennedy’s struggling to get outs in the minors. Hughes is looking a LOT more like Carl Pavano than Johann Santana, and Melky is, well, Melky. A 4th outfielder. How would our rotation look with Santana-Pettitte-Moose-Joba (even with Wang hurt), and say Tori Hunter in center for a couple of years until Jackson’s ready? Counting on prospects, as Cashman has done, and yanksrule wants to do with Tabata, is a very iffy proposition, as we have seen. The Yanks are a win now team, and always should be with their resources. This team is where it is today because of the horrible moves Cashman has made, like Pavano and Igawa, sucking up huge $$, so now they have to pass on deals like Santana to cover for those mistakes. If you can get a young, right-handed power-hitting outfielder like Holliday for prospects, you do it if you’re the Yanks.

By: Greg Mandel

Greg Mandel — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:07:28 +0000

G. Love, great post. People who say we need Melky’s defense more than we need 20 more hits in a season, get real. There are plenty of outfielders who are just as good as Melky defensively AND can hit! Melky is a .270 (.240 currently) slap hitter without power and without much stolen base speed. He plays a pretty good centerfield. Replacing that is easy. I say yes to Holliday if it’s a possibility. This team needs right-handed power, needs hitters. No one is getting it done in the clutch on this team. No one’s getting on base. How many games have you looked up in the 5th inning to see the Yanks getting two-or-three hit? Way, way, way too many. And if we’re going to make a run at the playoffs with Rasner and Ponson in the rotation, it’s going to have to be done with offense.

By: yanksrule

yanksrule — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 16:32:40 +0000

The Yankees don’t need a young corner outfielder, such as Matt Holliday, when they have Jose Tabata in their farm system.

By: gosox

gosox — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:36:52 +0000

the away parks holliday’s road ops is deceiving because the road parks in which he most frequently plays are some of the worst hitters’ parks in the majors – la, sf and sd. relying on numbers without conducting additional analysis is a bad idea.

By: Chris

Chris — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 13:58:42 +0000

So far this year, Gamel has 15 errors in 64 games. In 2007, he made 53 errors in 128 games. He’s hitting a ton, though… and Spillborgh has played 237 games in the bigs. I guess we’re talking bout 2009 now, not ‘08?

“I think swapping Abreu for Nady makes the Yankees better, younger and cheaperâ€¦ thatâ€™s a pretty good trifecta.”
Good point, although do you really want Nady as your right-fielder? Plus, you’re not trading Abreau to Pittsburgh – they wouldn’t want him, so that’s multiple trades. So that’s one trade to get rid of him – maybe to Arizona/L.A – and you won’t get much. Then another with Pittsburgh. How many prospects are you willing to give up to get Xaiver Nady?

And the Ichiro argument is moot – Seattle’s not trading him – but he is no band-aid. I don’t see him slowing down – he’s on his way to another 200-hit season this year, and he batted .350 last year.

By: Rick

Rick — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 03:50:38 +0000

Whozat—I wasn’t recommending that we should or shouldn’t trade for Holliday. Only that splits, like alot of statistics, can be misleading.

My own opinion is that this just isn’t that great of a team, and that trading for one or two players isn’t going change anything. I’d rather continue to build up our farm system until we have the kind of resources that can trade young pitchers for young position players—much like what Tampa/Minne did by trading Garza for Young.

It’s the same reason I was against trading for Santana, he simply would not have put us over the hump to be a contender again and meanwhile we burned resources.

Only a few of the current Yankees will be around for our next championship. Joba, ARod, Hughes, maybe Jeter, maybe Wang, maybe Cano if he gets his act together, again. But, the next championship is in our farm team and other farm teams.

By: Yankee Trader

Yankee Trader — Thu, 17 Jul 2008 01:27:57 +0000

Martin

I agree with you, but wouldn’t it be nice to have the next Evan Longoria, Ryan Braun, Josh Hamilton, Jacoby Ellsbury coming up in your system, to replace the likes of fading stars like FA’s Abreu, Giambi,etc.

Remember the 2009 FA class is very weak in position FA’s, and our minor league position players will not be ready for 1-2 years, therefore we need to trade arms for ready to play position holes we’ll have this fall.