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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/21/breaking-down-the-trade-deadline/comment-page-6/#comment-447610</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 09:15:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>just asking but didn&#039;t Nady ask to be traded OFF the Mets a couple of years ago at the deadline

sounds like a player who likes that Pittsburgh limelight!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>just asking but didn&#8217;t Nady ask to be traded OFF the Mets a couple of years ago at the deadline</p>
<p>sounds like a player who likes that Pittsburgh limelight!</p>
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		<title>By: Carmine</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carmine</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 07:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Honestly, signing Bonds makes too much sense at this point. Bonds DH&#039;s and could play the occasional left if Johnny needs a half-day off and you throw Gardner out there if one or the other needs a full day(this also perfectly utilizes Gardner as a plus 4th OF/pinch runner type, IMO). I actually wouldn&#039;t even object to Gardner platooning center with Melky. If nothing else, he&#039;s more patient. Bonds, at worst, probably brings a .400 OBP to the team for league minimum. You really can&#039;t beat that. At best, you have probably the most terrifying power trio in baseball combining with A-Rod and Giambi. It&#039;s really an incredibly low risk/potentially sky-high reward type. I can&#039;t believe they haven&#039;t signed him yet. And as for him needing to get into baseball shape, we were willing to wait over a month for Clemens to get ready and paid him half a country last year to play once every 5 days. With Bonds, it&#039;s league minimum. There&#039;s really nothing to lose.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Honestly, signing Bonds makes too much sense at this point. Bonds DH&#8217;s and could play the occasional left if Johnny needs a half-day off and you throw Gardner out there if one or the other needs a full day(this also perfectly utilizes Gardner as a plus 4th OF/pinch runner type, IMO). I actually wouldn&#8217;t even object to Gardner platooning center with Melky. If nothing else, he&#8217;s more patient. Bonds, at worst, probably brings a .400 OBP to the team for league minimum. You really can&#8217;t beat that. At best, you have probably the most terrifying power trio in baseball combining with A-Rod and Giambi. It&#8217;s really an incredibly low risk/potentially sky-high reward type. I can&#8217;t believe they haven&#8217;t signed him yet. And as for him needing to get into baseball shape, we were willing to wait over a month for Clemens to get ready and paid him half a country last year to play once every 5 days. With Bonds, it&#8217;s league minimum. There&#8217;s really nothing to lose.</p>
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		<title>By: TD</title>
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		<dc:creator>TD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 04:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thanks for the buzz kill Pete. I realize its only the reality of the Yanks going into this particular deadline but what are we supposed to talk about here if you lay out all these pointers ? &quot;


um... our current playres, and the game itself?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thanks for the buzz kill Pete. I realize its only the reality of the Yanks going into this particular deadline but what are we supposed to talk about here if you lay out all these pointers ? &#8221;</p>
<p>um&#8230; our current playres, and the game itself?</p>
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		<title>By: YankeeVIP</title>
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		<dc:creator>YankeeVIP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 01:10:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>two things:

1. with Cano heating up, do we use him as trade bait now to get a top flight pitcher. you have to atleast think about it if he is going to be 2nd half player only

2. what really kills with posada out is now damon will dh alot and brett &quot;i cant hit mlb pitching&quot; gardner stays in left. 

we have a pretty big hole at DH now i think, anyone thinking what im thinking... (hello mr. bonds)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>two things:</p>
<p>1. with Cano heating up, do we use him as trade bait now to get a top flight pitcher. you have to atleast think about it if he is going to be 2nd half player only</p>
<p>2. what really kills with posada out is now damon will dh alot and brett &#8220;i cant hit mlb pitching&#8221; gardner stays in left. </p>
<p>we have a pretty big hole at DH now i think, anyone thinking what im thinking&#8230; (hello mr. bonds)</p>
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		<title>By: douche</title>
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		<dc:creator>douche</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 23:19:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mel-

Thats actually what I was going to say, restructuring does NOT mean we can&#039;t make the playoffs though. It means that we have some weak spots / learning situations (joba, hughes, IPK, even bringing up gardner) to me. I hate the attitude of people saying &quot;we are rebuilding, playoffs aren&#039;t going to happen, don&#039;t sell the farm&quot; etc etc. We have an elite farm system, we wouldn&#039;t be selling the farm to get a guy like bay to protect ARod, making a huge impact on our lineup and keeping us very competitive.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mel-</p>
<p>Thats actually what I was going to say, restructuring does NOT mean we can&#8217;t make the playoffs though. It means that we have some weak spots / learning situations (joba, hughes, IPK, even bringing up gardner) to me. I hate the attitude of people saying &#8220;we are rebuilding, playoffs aren&#8217;t going to happen, don&#8217;t sell the farm&#8221; etc etc. We have an elite farm system, we wouldn&#8217;t be selling the farm to get a guy like bay to protect ARod, making a huge impact on our lineup and keeping us very competitive.</p>
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		<title>By: leo</title>
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		<dc:creator>leo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Salty or Laird</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salty or Laird</p>
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		<title>By: vinny-b</title>
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		<dc:creator>vinny-b</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:21:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>phone the Rangers.

trade for salty?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>phone the Rangers.</p>
<p>trade for salty?</p>
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		<title>By: Yankee Trader</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yankee Trader</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:21:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pete

Excellent review of the trading &quot;deadline.&quot;

The Yankees can also wait until August, to see if they are still in the race, as most of their high priced FA&#039;s to be will probably pass thru waivers, making a trade possible.

However my guess here is that they might look to get a pitcher, like a Jarrod Washburn, who will be a FA and would cost only money, some of it picked up by Seattle, plus a lesser prospect.

Hopefully Cashman will know near the end of July, if this team can make it to the WS.  We need outfield and 1st base position prospects ready to bring up to the majors next season,assuming we let go of most of our FA&#039;s.

Therefore, why not trade Abreu, who would be looking for an extension, and get better developed prospects, than would be available thru the draft of 18 and 19 yo players?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pete</p>
<p>Excellent review of the trading &#8220;deadline.&#8221;</p>
<p>The Yankees can also wait until August, to see if they are still in the race, as most of their high priced FA&#8217;s to be will probably pass thru waivers, making a trade possible.</p>
<p>However my guess here is that they might look to get a pitcher, like a Jarrod Washburn, who will be a FA and would cost only money, some of it picked up by Seattle, plus a lesser prospect.</p>
<p>Hopefully Cashman will know near the end of July, if this team can make it to the WS.  We need outfield and 1st base position prospects ready to bring up to the majors next season,assuming we let go of most of our FA&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Therefore, why not trade Abreu, who would be looking for an extension, and get better developed prospects, than would be available thru the draft of 18 and 19 yo players?</p>
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		<title>By: Russ</title>
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		<dc:creator>Russ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Milton Bradley of
1 year/$5.25M (2008)

signed as a free agent 12/07
performance bonuses: $0.325M for 400 PAs, $0.45M for 450 PAs, $0.525M for 500 PAs, $0.7M for 550 PAs, $0.75M for 600 PAs
award bonuses: $25,000 for Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, LCS MVP; $50,000 for WS MVP, All Star; $0.1M for MVP, $0.2M for Comeback POY
Bradley to donate $25,000 to club charity

1 year/$4M (2007)
re-signed 1/07 (avoided arbitration)
may earn $0.4M in performance bonuses

acquired in trade (from Oakland) 6/29/07 after being DFA 6/21/07 (Oakland paid $1,360,929 to SD to cover portion of remaining $2.05M due in 2007 salary)

1 year/$3M (2006), re-signed 1/06 (avoided arbitration)
may earn $0.2M in incentives based on plate appearances

1 year/$2.5M (2005), avoided arbitration 1/05
$0.75M in performance bonuses

1 year/$1.73M (2004), avoided arbitration 11/03
1 year/$0.3143M (2003) 3/03
1 year/$0.221M (2002) 3/02
agents: Levinson brothers
ML service: 6.169

per Cot Deaa&#039;s site</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Milton Bradley of<br />
1 year/$5.25M (2008)</p>
<p>signed as a free agent 12/07<br />
performance bonuses: $0.325M for 400 PAs, $0.45M for 450 PAs, $0.525M for 500 PAs, $0.7M for 550 PAs, $0.75M for 600 PAs<br />
award bonuses: $25,000 for Gold Glove, Silver Slugger, LCS MVP; $50,000 for WS MVP, All Star; $0.1M for MVP, $0.2M for Comeback POY<br />
Bradley to donate $25,000 to club charity</p>
<p>1 year/$4M (2007)<br />
re-signed 1/07 (avoided arbitration)<br />
may earn $0.4M in performance bonuses</p>
<p>acquired in trade (from Oakland) 6/29/07 after being DFA 6/21/07 (Oakland paid $1,360,929 to SD to cover portion of remaining $2.05M due in 2007 salary)</p>
<p>1 year/$3M (2006), re-signed 1/06 (avoided arbitration)<br />
may earn $0.2M in incentives based on plate appearances</p>
<p>1 year/$2.5M (2005), avoided arbitration 1/05<br />
$0.75M in performance bonuses</p>
<p>1 year/$1.73M (2004), avoided arbitration 11/03<br />
1 year/$0.3143M (2003) 3/03<br />
1 year/$0.221M (2002) 3/02<br />
agents: Levinson brothers<br />
ML service: 6.169</p>
<p>per Cot Deaa&#8217;s site</p>
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		<title>By: OldYanksFan</title>
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		<dc:creator>OldYanksFan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Jul 2008 20:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Thank you meaning the get Holliday, get Fuentes, get Bay, get Nady fans need to just accept that.&quot;
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That is not what he really said. Basically, we will not trade the farm for someone who can only help us NOW. But Jason Bay and Matt Holliday can help us NOW and for YEARS TO COME. In 2010, our entire OF is Melky... IF he&#039;s still around. We hope and expect AJax will be here. Tabata may be a little more iffy. But even if EVERYTHING goes perfectly with AJax, Tabata and Melky, we still need an OFer with an impact bat.

Hollday make around $10m and Bay $7.5. THERE ARE STEALS! JD and Matsui make $13. One can&#039;t field and one can&#039;t throw. Furthermore, many of our young farmhands ARE trade bait. We have tons of pitchers and very few position players. Cashmna will not give them away, but he will use them in a fair trade to fill holes in the team.

And our primary hole is an OFer. 1B comes next, but we could have Giambi in 2009 and Montero in 2011. So 1B is not as critical as having THREE OFers.

Also, Nady is a career 107 OPS+ guy. Holliday and Bay are at 131. There is no comparison between Nady and the other 2. Bay and Holliday are under 30. While Holliday is a bit overhyped because of Coors, he is still a very solid player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Thank you meaning the get Holliday, get Fuentes, get Bay, get Nady fans need to just accept that.&#8221;<br />
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That is not what he really said. Basically, we will not trade the farm for someone who can only help us NOW. But Jason Bay and Matt Holliday can help us NOW and for YEARS TO COME. In 2010, our entire OF is Melky&#8230; IF he&#8217;s still around. We hope and expect AJax will be here. Tabata may be a little more iffy. But even if EVERYTHING goes perfectly with AJax, Tabata and Melky, we still need an OFer with an impact bat.</p>
<p>Hollday make around $10m and Bay $7.5. THERE ARE STEALS! JD and Matsui make $13. One can&#8217;t field and one can&#8217;t throw. Furthermore, many of our young farmhands ARE trade bait. We have tons of pitchers and very few position players. Cashmna will not give them away, but he will use them in a fair trade to fill holes in the team.</p>
<p>And our primary hole is an OFer. 1B comes next, but we could have Giambi in 2009 and Montero in 2011. So 1B is not as critical as having THREE OFers.</p>
<p>Also, Nady is a career 107 OPS+ guy. Holliday and Bay are at 131. There is no comparison between Nady and the other 2. Bay and Holliday are under 30. While Holliday is a bit overhyped because of Coors, he is still a very solid player.</p>
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