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		<title>By: nyyfaninlaaland</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/24/not-all-moves-may-be-trades/comment-page-8/#comment-451842</link>
		<dc:creator>nyyfaninlaaland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Stuart, but Joey Gathright had OBP&#039;s well over .400 in AAA in  both 2005 and 2006, .457 in the latter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Stuart, but Joey Gathright had OBP&#8217;s well over .400 in AAA in  both 2005 and 2006, .457 in the latter.</p>
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		<title>By: nyyfaninlaaland</title>
		<link>http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/24/not-all-moves-may-be-trades/comment-page-8/#comment-451713</link>
		<dc:creator>nyyfaninlaaland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whozat - the costs associated with the new Satdium have no impact on luxury tax payments. Solely based on salary vs. the threshold. You&#039;re thinking of the impact on revenue sharing payments. 

Actually your argument should be turned on its head. With rising tax thresholds and possible declining payroll over the next few years, the Yanks are narrowing the gap there, in fact could get under the threshold in 2010 if some prospects filled the coming holes. 

For example, put Jackson in CF, and 2 of Melky, Gardner, Tabata, Curtis, or Carson (I&#039;m really starting to like this guy as a back up OF) in another spot plus reserve. Add 1 high priced guy. Contrast to current OF of Melky (he&#039;ll be making quite a bit more in 2 years if he&#039;s still worthy of a spot), with Damon, Matsui, and Abreu ($42 mil for those 3). Possible big cut. Will our 1B be making Giambi&#039;s $23 mil? IF will be up, especially Cano, but will Jeter (or, okay I said it, another SS) get over $20 MM in 2011? Jorge is frozen (assuming he&#039;s still at C), no back up C should cost more than Molina. Could save another mil if somebody in the system can replace Betemit. And development of some prospects should mean a big cut in pitching cost. Mo is frozen, but done in 2010. The threshold will be $170 mil in &#039;10, $178 in &#039;11, compared to $155 this year. So it&#039;s at least possible Igawa&#039;s $4 mil could fit tax free in the 2010, easily could in 2011. And we&#039;ve got 3 years to move him or - I know, I must be kidding - he could actually be earning at least some of the money as a 4/5 starter or long reliever. Washburn&#039;s money is virtually guaranteed to fully count in &#039;09 (tax threshold is $162 MM), and does in &#039;08. And money today is worth more than money in 2 or 3 years. So the lux tax consideration weighs heavily against it.

As stated in the past, I too think the Washburn deal, especially if it includes Vidro, is a bad idea. Guy turns 34 in 3 weeks. I don&#039;t see him as an upgrade worth the money. I think he might appear less risky in 2008, but the risk of Ponson in &#039;09 can be 0. I&#039;d stick with prospects, hope the 2 now get us through, hope Wang, Hughes, and / or Kennedy can replace one or both by some time in August or September, or find another choice that doesn&#039;t include a 2009 committment, particularly a $10+ mil one. 

Hell, I might prefer Odalis Perez or better yet Tim Redding to Washburn (both cheap, Redding less so, and yes I remember 2005), and I do prefer Maddux, though I doubt that deal can be done. Geez, maybe even the innings and everything else eater Livan - there you go Randy. Hmmm, no.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whozat &#8211; the costs associated with the new Satdium have no impact on luxury tax payments. Solely based on salary vs. the threshold. You&#8217;re thinking of the impact on revenue sharing payments. </p>
<p>Actually your argument should be turned on its head. With rising tax thresholds and possible declining payroll over the next few years, the Yanks are narrowing the gap there, in fact could get under the threshold in 2010 if some prospects filled the coming holes. </p>
<p>For example, put Jackson in CF, and 2 of Melky, Gardner, Tabata, Curtis, or Carson (I&#8217;m really starting to like this guy as a back up OF) in another spot plus reserve. Add 1 high priced guy. Contrast to current OF of Melky (he&#8217;ll be making quite a bit more in 2 years if he&#8217;s still worthy of a spot), with Damon, Matsui, and Abreu ($42 mil for those 3). Possible big cut. Will our 1B be making Giambi&#8217;s $23 mil? IF will be up, especially Cano, but will Jeter (or, okay I said it, another SS) get over $20 MM in 2011? Jorge is frozen (assuming he&#8217;s still at C), no back up C should cost more than Molina. Could save another mil if somebody in the system can replace Betemit. And development of some prospects should mean a big cut in pitching cost. Mo is frozen, but done in 2010. The threshold will be $170 mil in &#8216;10, $178 in &#8216;11, compared to $155 this year. So it&#8217;s at least possible Igawa&#8217;s $4 mil could fit tax free in the 2010, easily could in 2011. And we&#8217;ve got 3 years to move him or &#8211; I know, I must be kidding &#8211; he could actually be earning at least some of the money as a 4/5 starter or long reliever. Washburn&#8217;s money is virtually guaranteed to fully count in &#8216;09 (tax threshold is $162 MM), and does in &#8216;08. And money today is worth more than money in 2 or 3 years. So the lux tax consideration weighs heavily against it.</p>
<p>As stated in the past, I too think the Washburn deal, especially if it includes Vidro, is a bad idea. Guy turns 34 in 3 weeks. I don&#8217;t see him as an upgrade worth the money. I think he might appear less risky in 2008, but the risk of Ponson in &#8216;09 can be 0. I&#8217;d stick with prospects, hope the 2 now get us through, hope Wang, Hughes, and / or Kennedy can replace one or both by some time in August or September, or find another choice that doesn&#8217;t include a 2009 committment, particularly a $10+ mil one. </p>
<p>Hell, I might prefer Odalis Perez or better yet Tim Redding to Washburn (both cheap, Redding less so, and yes I remember 2005), and I do prefer Maddux, though I doubt that deal can be done. Geez, maybe even the innings and everything else eater Livan &#8211; there you go Randy. Hmmm, no.</p>
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		<title>By: Keith</title>
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		<dc:creator>Keith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:51:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>â€œWhy do we need/want Jeff Keppenger?â€


Simply said, he&#039;s got Betemit beat by many miles.</description>
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<p>Simply said, he&#8217;s got Betemit beat by many miles.</p>
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		<title>By: stuart</title>
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		<dc:creator>stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>again who the hell is Jeff keppinger.. You guys fall in love with the SCRAPPY player bull-hit.

Jeff Keppinger who the hell cares...  He is nothing why do you waste time and energy on guys like that?????</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>again who the hell is Jeff keppinger.. You guys fall in love with the SCRAPPY player bull-hit.</p>
<p>Jeff Keppinger who the hell cares&#8230;  He is nothing why do you waste time and energy on guys like that?????</p>
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		<title>By: Old Ranger</title>
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		<dc:creator>Old Ranger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:44:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are a few of the same people that couldn&#039;t waite to see Brett in the show, dump on the guy after only 60 ABs? I think all of us knew about his slow starts every time he moved up. He may never be a star, but he could be a very serviceable player.
Bad Scooter and Stuart had it right...give him a little time to prove himself. Although, with us in the hunt for Oct., I am not sure they will give it to him...this year.
Welcome back SJ, good trip? 27/08??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are a few of the same people that couldn&#8217;t waite to see Brett in the show, dump on the guy after only 60 ABs? I think all of us knew about his slow starts every time he moved up. He may never be a star, but he could be a very serviceable player.<br />
Bad Scooter and Stuart had it right&#8230;give him a little time to prove himself. Although, with us in the hunt for Oct., I am not sure they will give it to him&#8230;this year.<br />
Welcome back SJ, good trip? 27/08??</p>
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		<title>By: Ed  - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half!</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ed  - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:40:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;&lt;i&gt;I donâ€™t really want him on the team but he is a useful bench player. Heâ€™s a good contact hitter, doesnâ€™t strike out much and can play multiple infield positions. I donâ€™t expect the Yankees to trade for him but Iâ€™d be happy to have him on the team.&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/i&gt;

if only the Yanks are smart enough to realize Keppinger &lt;b&gt;is&lt;/b&gt; better than Betemit.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b><i>I donâ€™t really want him on the team but he is a useful bench player. Heâ€™s a good contact hitter, doesnâ€™t strike out much and can play multiple infield positions. I donâ€™t expect the Yankees to trade for him but Iâ€™d be happy to have him on the team.</i></b></p>
<p>if only the Yanks are smart enough to realize Keppinger <b>is</b> better than Betemit.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick â„¢</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick â„¢</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Why do we need/want Jeff Keppenger?&quot;

I don&#039;t really want him on the team but he is a useful bench player. He&#039;s a good contact hitter, doesn&#039;t strike out much and can play multiple infield positions. I don&#039;t expect the Yankees to trade for him but I&#039;d be happy to have him on the team.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Why do we need/want Jeff Keppenger?&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t really want him on the team but he is a useful bench player. He&#8217;s a good contact hitter, doesn&#8217;t strike out much and can play multiple infield positions. I don&#8217;t expect the Yankees to trade for him but I&#8217;d be happy to have him on the team.</p>
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		<title>By: RSM</title>
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		<dc:creator>RSM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Besides, with the new stadium, they get to write off bunches of money next year or so. I think thatâ€™s part of the reason ARodâ€™s deal is structured like it isâ€¦big money now, lessening as time goes by.&quot;

Just for the record.  The mortgage on the new stadium will reduce the Yankees income, which will result in them paying less &quot;revenue sharing&quot;.  It has NO impact on what they pay in &quot;luxury tax&quot;, which is determined solely by team payroll.  These are two seperate taxes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Besides, with the new stadium, they get to write off bunches of money next year or so. I think thatâ€™s part of the reason ARodâ€™s deal is structured like it isâ€¦big money now, lessening as time goes by.&#8221;</p>
<p>Just for the record.  The mortgage on the new stadium will reduce the Yankees income, which will result in them paying less &#8220;revenue sharing&#8221;.  It has NO impact on what they pay in &#8220;luxury tax&#8221;, which is determined solely by team payroll.  These are two seperate taxes.</p>
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		<title>By: Patrick â„¢</title>
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		<dc:creator>Patrick â„¢</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:20:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Gonzalez and Salty arenâ€™t availableâ€¦.even though Brandon thinks they are.&quot;

I know they aren&#039;t but that doesn&#039;t stop me from wanting them on the Yankees :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Gonzalez and Salty arenâ€™t availableâ€¦.even though Brandon thinks they are.&#8221;</p>
<p>I know they aren&#8217;t but that doesn&#8217;t stop me from wanting them on the Yankees <img src='http://yankees.lhblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: mel</title>
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		<dc:creator>mel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 22:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>lol@ Chris

I thought Brandon went to lunch.  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>lol@ Chris</p>
<p>I thought Brandon went to lunch.  <img src='http://yankees.lhblogs.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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