Game 102: Yankees at Red Sox
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- July
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YANKEES (56-45)
Damon DH
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Gardner LF
Chamberlain RHP
RED SOX (60-43)
Ellsburg LF
Pedroia 2B
Ortiz DH
Youkilis 1B
Lowell 3B
Drew RF
Lowrie SS
Varitek C
Crisp CF
Beckett RHP
Joba Chamberlain (2-3, 2.52) vs. the Boston hitters.
Josh Beckett (9-6, 3.98) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees have won six straight and 11 of 14. They are a solid 23-23 on the road but have lost four of their last five away from the Bronx. … The Red Sox are coming off a three-game sweep in Seattle.
BECKETT AND THE BOMBERS: Beckett is 3-0, 3.92 ERA against the Yankees this season. He had been 4-3 prior to this season with a 6.65 ERA.
DAMON SINCE THE DL: Johnny Damon is 2 for 11 since he came off the disabled list. But playing at Fenway could be just what he needs to get going.
YANKEES IN THE SWING: Derek Jeter is 8 of 24 with four RBI and four extra-base hits. … A-Rod has eight RBI in the last six games. … Robbie Cano is 14 of 27 with 7 RBI and 5 runs scored since the break. He has gone from .246 to .265.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 6:11 p.m.: Manny Ramirez was in the lineup and was scratched just before BP. Suffice it to say, Red Sox fandom is displeased.
Meanwhile, lots of news from Brian Cashman:
* Phil Hughes will throw two innings in the GCL on Monday. He will soon be activated off the DL and optioned. Cashman would not predict whether Hughes would return to the majors. Cash said that teams are clamoring for Hughes in trade talks but he will not deal him.
* Carl Pavano is scheduled to start a GCL game on Tuesday. Assuming he is not attacked by bees first or gets a sunburn.
* Ross Ohlendorf has pitched so well as a starter for Scranton that he is being considered as a starter again.
* Cashman is not optimistic about making a trade. “But it only takes one call.” He drove up to Boston today and was on the phone the entire time.
* On the subject of Barry Bonds, Cashman would not rule it out because he never rules anything about. But he said he has not spoken to Jeff Borris, Bonds’ agent. So it’s not happening and never was.
* Brian Bruney needs more work on his velocity and command before they bring him back.
UPDATE, 6:32 p.m.: Cashman said he has faith in Molina and Moeller to catch the rest of the season. Finding a catcher is not high on his list.
UPDATE, 7:14 p.m.: Here is Joe Girardi’s pre-game media session:
UPDATE, 7:33 p.m.: It would seem that starting at Fenway for the first time is not going to shake up Joba Chamberlain. He fanned Ortiz and Youkilis to end the first inning. This has all the makings of a great matchup with these two guys pitching. The Yankees need to make Beckett work, which they did in the first inning.
UPDATE, 7:47 p.m.: Wow, two terrific defensive plays that inning by the Yankees. It’s like a new Robbie Cano came back from the Dominican.
UPDATE, 7:51 p.m.: Not sure what to make of this yet. But Phil Coke pitched an inning for Trenton (striking out the side) then was pulled from the game. Might he be on the move for somebody?
8:09 p.m.: THE YANKEES HAVE MADE A TRADE:
OF Xavier Nady and LHP Damaso Marte from Pittsburgh for OF Jose Tabata, RHP Ross Ohlendorf, LHP Phil Coke and RHP George Kontos.
TRADE ANALYSIS, 8:40 p.m.: This is a smart move for the Yankees. Nady gives the lineup a right-handed hitting boost with Matsui and Posada out and unlikely to return. Even if Posada comes back, his shoulder problem clearly was hampering his hitting.
Nady can play left field, allowing Damon to DH. Marte slides into the bullpen, giving the Yankees what is right now the best unit in the league.
Tabata, while only 20, has not hit for power and was a discipline problem this season. Ohlendorf is a No. 5 starter type or a set-up man. Coke has pitched well the last two seasons but you have to give up something to get something.
Neither Coke or Kontos were among the team’s A-list prospects, although Coke was moving up fast.
Getting Nady also serves as a hedge to letting Abreu leave as a free agent as he is under control through 2009. I don’t see the downside to this move beyond risking what those kids might become.
UPDATE, 9:16 p.m.: Well, you knew that was coming. I get that Joba doesn’t like Youkilis, nobody does. But in a 1-0 game in the seventh inning, why start something?
But you have to like how Joba gets after it. The Yankees need a guy like this atop their rotation.
UPDATE, 9:48 p.m.: Joba’s seven innings were a career high, hence Farnsworth.
But even Girardi and all his boundless faith had Rivera warming up and now he’s in. It would be the second five-out save of the season for Mo if he can get it.
UPDATE, 9:54 p.m.: All hail the great Rivera. Eight pitches, crisis over.
UPDATE, 10:10 p.m.: Terrific game. Seven straight for the Yankees, one behind Boston in the loss column and Joba has established himself as a beast.
With the trade and this win, it’s a very good day for the pinstripes.
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TBA=TheBostonArses
Pete, funny…you say 23-23 is solid and the AP says that is mediocre…..me thinks the AP is a bunch of Yankee Haters….hmmmmm ?
This season, 23-23 on the road is excellent.
And I am NOT starting Beckett on my fantasy team tonight - Yankees score 4 in the 1st, babee!
joba needs to stop walking people
our offense will catch up to beckett
If his last two starts are any indication I think Joba has learned to stop walking people.
This a GUARANTEED WIN for the Yankees tonight….I will have no access to watch, see or track the game online….Beckett gets whacked around, Youk gets one in the mouth and Joba gets the win ! BOOK IT, DAN-O !
23-23 on the road is good for 2nd best in the AL.
Also, the Yankees seem to like playing Boston in the second half of the season. For whatever reason.
Pleasant memories ffrom last August and September.
These games (not necessarily these three, but these games against Boston and Tampa they have left) are where the division is one and lost.
You can bet the Yankees will play like it.
“joba needs to stop walking people”
Huh?
Someone Else: The way karma works, you have to start Beckett tonight if you want a Yankees win.
“joba needs to stop walking people
our offense will catch up to beckett”
In his last 2 starts he has walked a grand total of one.
Sj, I reallly liked your last post.. On the prospect front I am not saying gardner is the next great leadoff hitter, I rather doubt it.. But my eyes do not lie, he can fly.. His past stats show he can get on base at a very nice level, he has not done that yet as a pro but all these players beside Al Kaline need some time.
I am all for trading prospects for moves that make sense long term.. When I look at this team unless they get Wang back and possibly hughes and get some help offensivley(exisitng players play better) or make a trade this team does not look like a Championship team.. I would love to be wrong but that is my take..
If Damon can get back on the field, they get another real bat, or if Gardner can pick it up significantly, and if they deal with there bad 4 and 5 starter then they have a chance..Those are a lot of if’s and Washbum, to me solves nothing. Trading Gardner or Melky for what I have heard so far is foolish, and again the under lyng goal has to be to get younger, improve financial flexibility, and continue to improve there minor league long term talent…
Beckett’s going headhunting tonight! Gay Rod is going down along with Jeter (there’s a Jeter on my peter whack it off, Whack it off!). YEEEHAWWW.
boston is
ped
youk
ortiz
manny
lowell
drew
lowrie
tek
ellsbury
Nothing like Home Cooking for the Sox! I got ths Sox -
1 1/2 runs and (Cleveland) Cliff Lee -1 1/2 runs for a $100 parlay. Both aces are going to trounce their opposition.
Rebecca,
Having a few problems setting up my blog.
Can I e-mail you with a few of my questions?
Joe - “Gay Rod?”
What are you three?
Joe, you are a moron.
Papi and Manny going back to back 1’st inning. Going to give the Rookie a wake up call!
I think Joes gay rconn23.
“Nothing like Home Cooking for the Sox! ”
cause they suck on the road… that toilet is your only hope.
Lets hope Alex and Robi have a normal Friday night. This is a weekend series in Boston alot of Annies out there.
Joe=Winner of the earliest, dumbest BoSux troll to start talking trash at a Yankees Blog before pitch one is thrown and his team goes DOWN IN FLAMES….Adios, Ding Dong !
Yeah like Pukiless, Rconn?
Maybe so, But the Yanbkees are looking up at them.
Joe, you are a moron.
He’s not a moron he’s in the closet.
I don’t think so Don. That’s why Beckett is an ace. side bet?
“Joe=Winner of the earliest, dumbest BoSux troll to start talking trash at a Yankees Blog before pitch one is thrown and his team goes DOWN IN FLAMES….Adios, Ding Dong !”
well, “TBA=TheBostonArses” isnt what you’d call quality comedy material
Clay/Joe: Go for it. rebecca@puristbleedspinstripes.com
1 walk in past 2 starts were against oak & tor
you could say bos is different + being in bos
I just read Chad Jennings write-up on IPK’s last start -
I’m not sure whether to be happy he is pitching well or just skip that stage and brace myself for when comes back up to the big club and nibbles for 5 innings.
I can see it now. Every game on this blog, “he’s getting squeezed”. One thing about this blog is it’s so predictable.
“One thing about this blog is it’s so predictable.”
like trolls
the beckett = ace thing is funny
1 good year (2007) doesn’t = ACE
you need at least a few years of domination to be called that
Hey Rich, You wanna a piece of me ? “Frank Costanza”
if Kennedy’s value is high, move him for the right player, now.
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Manny Ramirez, LF
5. Mike Lowell, 3B
6. J.D. Drew, RF
7. Jed Lowrie, SS
8. Jason Varitek, C
9. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF
SP — Josh Beckett
From Boston.com
Joe is an idiot.
The Yankees will win tonight but to see how overmatched Brett Gardner will look against Beckett will be enough to turn stomachs.
Man, Beckett is such an ace. That 3.98 ERA is awesome!
You should worry about IPK. In the meanwhile the Sox rookies Lester and Buchholz threw No Hitters!
Damon’s 2-11, but he was 0-4 one game..he was fine the other two.
You knoe Micheal Kay is speaking about deals the Yankees should make, does he have the cojones to ask for Milton Bradley
know (I’m sorry I was distracted)
“Hey Rich, You wanna a piece of me ? “Frank Costanza” ”
Listen Jeter, If there is one guy you want pitching in the playoffs it’s Beckett. Do your homework.
1. Dustin Pedroia, 2B…Rat Boy…an O-Fer
2. Kevin Youkilis, 1B….Drilled in the ear, out for the year
3. David Ortiz, DH….Lone Home Run…
4. Manny Ramirez, LF….Strikes out looking each AB
5. Mike Lowell, 3B…..bloop single…
6. J.D. Drew, RF…..walk…..
7. Jed Lowrie, SS….are you kidding me ??
8. Jason Varitek, C…..K,K,K,K….
9. Jacoby Ellsbury, CF….More Ks here
“The Yankees don’t let their homegrown players walk away from the team. They’ve never operated like that and I doubt they ever will.”
there has never been a time like this before in baseball. that’s why a team like cleveland that had the perfect model two years ago is temporarily out of touch with market conditions.
cashman has never done a youth movement before. how does anyone including him know how he’s going to deal with free agents at 26 years old 4 years from now?
the smart way to deal with this kind of newness, uncertainty, and changing conditions is to come up with solutions for multiple scenarios and be covered for all possibilities.
that’s why the yankees need someone more qualified to run the yankees. cashman doesn’t have that kind of experience or ability.
one battle the red and and yankees will have over the next 5 years will be who has the most ability to deal with multiple possibilities and scenarios the game will take. for instance, who would have thought things were going to turn towards speed 5 years ago?
Oh My God
Francessa said he would give up Hughes, Jackson, Melky for Nate NcClouth.
And when Sweeny suggested Joba or Cano/Hughes, Mike kind of hesitates before saying no
TKinDC -
You won’t see IPK anytime soon. If he’s not part of a deal, he’ll be a September callup.
OK, Got to head to the game. You guy’s have fun bitching about the umpire, because that’s what you do best!
OK,
QUESTION: How Many High School Graduated Sux Fans can you fit into a phone booth ???…..Answer….Both of them !
Francessa would trade Hughes and Jackson for McLouth, he’s not joking.
Beckett’s not an ace.
That said, like Andy Pettitte, he comes up big in important games. Which just makes me like him even less.
Lester is having a great season All the more to him for doing it so soon after chemo.
Buchholz has not impressed me yet.
Joba doesn’t need to throw a no hitter to be an ace. If he goes out there every game and ends the season pitching to a 2.52 ERA, I’ll have no room to complain.
Joba’s 22 years old–younger than both Lester and Buchholz. He’ll have plenty of time to improve.
Stuart,
I don’t disagree with your take.
Here’s my point. You want to tweak the team to make a run? Great.
Impact 2009 trying to chase 2008? Absolutely not under ANY circumstances.
If you are Tampa, Milwaukee or some other franchise that has not won, you can go for it.
The Yankees? You don’t impact the following season, when they will be very good if they don’t do something dumb, to save this year.
You just don’t run a big market team that way. Especially the Yankees.
Just look at the 80’s as proof how not to do things.
That’s why it won’t happen here, regardless of the pinings of guys like Francesa, Madden and some fans.
Hey Joe, Have fun watching your team get spanked and make sure that you join the mass of idiots with your Yankees Suck chant even though you are losing badly….got it, Schmedley ???
Hey Hey. Where’s all the class? Name calling, that’s not like you guys.
runalong and go play with the other dolts, Little Joey, the big people are going to have a grown-up talk now….
The Yankees will win tonight but to see how overmatched Brett Gardner will look against Beckett will be enough to turn stomachs.
He didn’t look overmatched against papelbon…
Listen Jeter, If there is one guy you want pitching in the playoffs it’s Beckett. Do your homework.
Not this year. The guy didn’t even make the All-star game. That puts like 10 pitchers ahead of him on my list. Sabathia, Zambrano, Halladay, etc. He has good numbers in the playoffs, but that doesn’t mean he’ll automatically “show up” when the time comes. You really think that Beckett during a mediocre year is the best playoff pitcher? You go do some homework, troll.
PS– Loved the Gay-Rod comment. It’s just as funny as the first time everybody heard it 5 years ago. Really. Comedy gold. (/sarcasm)
I agree Sj.. Give up 2nd tier prospects.. Fat boy is talking about hughes, ajax, and more for Mclouth.. Yankee fans have no appreciation for prospects…
They need Pittsburgh to become more realistic…….Again Nady is a upgrade but he is far far from a star.. Bay is a legit very good player and a righty..If he can be get for some pitching talent I do it… Pitt. has a stud OF in the minors so maybe pitching will do it…
I also think a addtl. catcher will help, Molina cannot hit at all…
Good thing the Sox are batting the NL pitcher 8th. Now Joba has a nice landing spot towards the end of the lineup.
joe,
beckett may be a gamer, but he’s not an ace - think about it
rookies? do you know how many pitchers threw a no-hitter, but didn’t amount to anything
lester? doing fine this year, but 4.6era last year, and it wasn’t his first
buccholz? good stuff, but he’s at 5.8era right now
why people talk trash on other peoples’ blogs is just strange .. wouldn’t you want to hang around your own peeps?
(rhetorical) … don’t really care for your answer
From Chad Jennings:
“Leading into these past two starts, Kennedy worked with pitching coach Rafael Chaves in the bullpen, fixing a slight mechanical problem. Kennedy said he was throwing across his body a little bit, so he moved his plant foot slightly and it’s made all the difference in the world, especially with his fastball location.
“He’s been working hard,” Chaves said. “He thought he was throwing across his body just a tad, so we got him aligned and he’s been able to stay out front with it. He’s able to locate better, and that’s the key. He’s able to throw his pitches over the plate, and his breaking ball is getting better, and he’s always had a tremendous changeup.”"
I think I might want to wait a bit; let his breaking pitches develop a little longer. Though I’m liking the outcomes so far.
“that’s why the yankees need someone more qualified to run the yankees. cashman doesn’t have that kind of experience or ability.”
There aren’t many GM’s that have been with their current team longer than Cashman - and Theo got it done w/o experience.
This is just more anti-CashMoney propaganda.
Don Vito A. Bellamo, you’re the biggest A–Hole here, so step off already, you Pus.
Kennedy was rushed last year. Hope he takes his time now and gets everything perffect. I the Yankees were to move him, however, there would be no time better than right now.
Still, though, you can’t label him a bust after one bad spring.
I hope Damon kept the broom he was doing practice swings with…..I smell a sweep!! Give Joba some runs tonight!!!
“You won’t see IPK anytime soon. If he’s not part of a deal, he’ll be a September callup.”
Aren’t Ponson (Sunday and Friday) and Rasner (Monday and Saturday) each scheduled to get 2 starts this coming week? You could potentially (barring Jarrod Washburn) see IPK sooner than September if he follows his almost no-no up with a 4th straight good start. He still seems next in line for a call-up, even if McCutchen and Aceves are in the picture.
SJ44,
There you are. Haven’t seen you on here lately, but I guess I just missed your posts.
I’m on board with your theory. Don’t sacrifice the next few years for the sake of 2008 (and winning in the final year of the Stadium).
People need to get over not chasing Santana or Sabathia.
Olney spoke very favorably of CC’s handling of the recent trade -
he said he was very well liked by his teammates in Cleveland, that he showed up early in Milwaukee to be in the dugout the night before he debuted and that he has been dominant on the field.
It was encouraging to hear he isn’t a prima donna - since he will be in pinstripes next year.
Well, at least you guys are talkin trash about the Sox instead of discussing Barry Bonds.
Joe’s visit was valuable.
It should remind everyone to not feed the trolls this weekend. I know it’s tempting but if you type out a response and then delete it, you feel better and they go away sooner than if you hit submit.
TKinDC,
On CC in the Bronx, its nice to dream, but don’t get your hopes up.
“He’s been working hard,” Chaves said. “He thought he was throwing across his body just a tad, so we got him aligned and he’s been able to stay out front with it. He’s able to locate better, and that’s the key. He’s able to throw his pitches over the plate, and his breaking ball is getting better, and he’s always had a tremendous changeup.””
Eiland couldn’t do this ?
pat,
Exactly.
They come on here for one reason. I will say, however, that there are a few that actually add something decent to the conversation instead of running off insults for the sake of reaction.
AMEN pat!!!
It could be a long weekend on the blog is people dignify trolls with the attention they beg for (pathetic SOBs)
I think russ m should be reinstated for this one series, JUST for fun.
The Mad Prince in Pinstripes -
It isn’t a dream - it is a question of who is able to write the biggest check.
That would be the New York Yankees. It isn’t even close.
Enough about Beckett guys. He is an ace. He could have easily won the Cy Young award last year.
He’s a dominating strikeout pitcher and he has a big game track record.
Point to his ERA all you want, his peripherals are still excellent - just about the same level as last year.
The Red Sox have plenty of players on their roster and throughout their farm system who are overated, (Bowden, Ellsbury, Dice-K) Beckett is not one of them.
The Yankees put Joba Chamberlain in the rotation so he can be that type of ace. Once Joba learns to be efficient with his pitches and cuts down the walks, he will meet or exceed Beckett, IMO.
As a frequent reader but not poster here, I’ve got to agree. Don Vito you seem to resort to name calling more often than not. Just do your part to maintain some civility on this blog. Why respond to trolls at all? why don’t you just igore them.
TK,
Of course you’re right in terms of the Yankees’s ability to spend the most.
BUT, I think there is something to be said for the consistent indications over the past 6 months that Sabathia prefers to pitch on the West Coast and/or for an NL team. I don’t really believe that he has this burning urge to bat every outing, but I definitely buy into the location preference.
We’ll see, but I’m not counting on it.
Manny scratched from lineup, sorry if this is already posted…see www.boston.com
TK,
Let me say that I am definitely not against getting CC. I’d love to have him, used to watch him pitch in high school when he threw 95 as a senior and dunked on my HS team in bball.
Manny scratched from lineup, sorry if this is already posted…see
I’m not surprised.
I don’t know why everyone’s expecting Sabathia will be in pinstripes next year.
He’s pitching so well in Milwaukee–which is a contending team–he may just want to stay there. He even gets to hit as a bonus–Moose has to content himself with BP!
That said, if he wanted to put on pinstripes, I’d welcome him.
No ManRam? GREAT CALL BRANDON!
Brandon
Are you Miller and Bobcat?
“joba needs to stop walking people”
Someone’s been listing to fatso and fruitcake a little bit too much. Are they still going on about how Joba hasn’t been that great since entering the rotation?
Michael Kay making sense.
“Yankees need to be able to scout their own system. And pick out which players, are not as good as what other teams think.”
the front office needs to prove this. They haven’t yet. At the same time, the regime hasn’t had the opporunities until now. Now that the prospects are near ready.
“He’s pitching so well in Milwaukee–which is a contending team–he may just want to stay there. ”
uh huh…
http://www.theonion.com/content/news/c_c_sabathia_prince_fielder_keep
by the way, Kay was talking about knowing which players on the team to trade.
D.J.-Someone that didn’t like you may end up calling you a fargin’ corksucker, FYI.
CC’s shutout of the Cards on Wednesday night was definitely impressive. He almost looked as if he was toying with them. He was still hitting 96 on the gun in the ninth inning. He made Pujols look like a nobody as his bat went flying. He hasn’t shown the signs of decline that Santana was showing last season. His velocity hasn’t dropped one bit, like Santana’s did.
The biggest contract the BrewCrew has ever written was Ryan Braun’s. They have to pony up to try keep Prince (the 300 lb vegan).
The Brewers total payroll is $81M and the owner was complaining about losing money this year (although to his credit he said he was happy to lose money this year)
Brent, I was very happy with the result, but Gardner’s 20-hopper up the middle doesn’t demonstrate handling someone. Sometimes it’s better to be lucky than good. I have hopes for gardner and am prepared to be patient, but he has toproduce more or he shopuld be gaining experience in Scranton. In the playoffs when pitching rosters can be shortened and a great pinch-runner can make a difference there’s a spot for him. And he can come back in Sept. But it’s time to step it up or go down again. Christian makes more sense as the last bench OF if Damon can get on the field and allow for another DH.
Brandon
Are you Miller and Bobcat?
No I just know people close to Manny.
http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/redsox/extras/extra_bases/2008/07/manny_scratched.html
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Manny scratched
Email|Link|Comments (0) Posted by Amalie Benjamin, Globe Staff July 25, 2008 04:30 PM
Manny Ramirez has been scratched from tonight’s lineup. More coming soon …
Brandon, good stuff on the Manny news.
Brandon: Thanks much for the info!
I wonder if Manny is available to ‘pinch hit’?
Tony Pena Sr. must had been proud:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=xwgu2I2p6ms
Tony Jr. struck out Pudge.
“by the way, Kay was talking about knowing which players on the team to trade.”
His point was pretty obvious, no? That still doesn’t mean they should be spending those fungible guys on pointless acquisitions like Fuentes. Any move they make that costs anyone interesting should have positive ramifications in 2009 at least.
Hey Joe, when your Team gets to - lets say - maybe TWENTY World Championships, then think about coming on here and talking smack - ya Jerkoff!
Lets hope arod have a good series, it seems like he always struggle in fenway
“I wonder if Manny is available to ‘pinch hit’?”
By ‘pinch hit’ do you mean ‘pinch take a whiz in the Monster while beating up team officials’?
Great Pic of Papelbum on Feinsand’s blog - just another reason . . .
http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/yankees/
Manny cant hit a 99 mph fastball anyways
whozat: it is obvious. At the same time, really haven’t seen the matter discussed. Not even on the scout boards (pinstripe plus, etc).
Rumors are flying that the Yankees might make a run at Dunn if the price goes down a bit.
It would be interesting. He’s a Free Agent after this season so you wouldn’t be held hostage with a giant contract. He would add much needed power to a lineup that is going to miss Posada and Matsui. I wouldn’t be too sad if he replaces Gardner/ Christian playing time.
“I wonder if Manny is available to ‘pinch hit’?”
sure he just look at another 3 pitches and strikeout
Im pumped for the game. And Im pumped to see manny has been scratched.
“His point was pretty obvious, no? That still doesn’t mean they should be spending those fungible guys on pointless acquisitions like Fuentes. Any move they make that costs anyone interesting should have positive ramifications in 2009 at least.”
Totally agreed.
You don’t trade cheap, cost controlled talent like Kennedy, EVEN IF YOU DON’T THINK HE’S BETTER THAN A #5!, for 3 months of a decent reliever; ESPECIALLY when the bullpen is your team’s #1 strength. It’s just stupid.
If Kennedy comes up next season, and puts together a solid 4.00-4.25 ERA, wins 12 games, he instantly becomes an EXCELLENT trade chip. Instead of being one of three players sent to land 3 months of some aging veteran, he could possibly land a solid position player where the Yankees have a long-term need (say, if Jeter can no longer play SS, etc.; Alberto Gonzalez is -not- the answer).
For the right price, Adam Dunn is fine by me.
MANNY OUT!!
if moose was pitching today you no manny would have been in there
With Manny scratched from today’s lineup, does anybody want to argue with me again and say that he faked his injury two days ago? Raymagnetic? No?
“With Manny scratched from today’s lineup, does anybody want to argue with me again and say that he faked his injury two days ago? Raymagnetic? No?”
He might now be out because of injury it might be because of joba pitching remember he didnt start on the sunday night game vs joba or it could just be manny being manny
“For the right price, Adam Dunn is fine by me.”
Isn’t Dunn just another Big Sexy? He’s feast or famine. That would make 3 strikeout candidates we’d have in the lineup (Giambi being the other one).
I’d rather get a pitcher to replace either Rasner or Ponson. Ponson’s luck is eventually going to run out. Rasner isn’t very good either.
Wow…lots of chest beating and posturing going on by both Yankee and Sox fans this afternoon! It will be an interesting series as it always is between these two teams.
I’m not making any predictions or guarantees……I just still think that the Sox take game one and three with the Yankees taking game two.
“Isn’t Dunn just another Big Sexy? He’s feast or famine. That would make 3 strikeout candidates we’d have in the lineup (Giambi being the other one).”
Dunn has a really high OBP since his avg is so low and big sexy is all or nothing. Giambi doesnt strikeout as much as those 2 and hits for a higher avg
Brent: you may wish to talk to a person on this board. And check his messages.
Was Beckett really shouting at Joba 2 weeks ago from the dugout after he threw inside to Youk.
Dunn would go nuts in Yankee stadium, and for all the whining morons do about his K’s, he maintains a great OBP.
Wow… who would have thought he drinks Voss water
SJ -
it really does turn on the specifics of any deal. Sure, key guys to land CC for 2 months would have been problematic. But LaPorta was expendable for Milwaukee with Fielder at 1B, Hart and Braun in the OF corners, and the kid at 3B with LaPorta in AA.
The bats being discussed in trade aren’t by and large strict rentals. Holliday, Bay, and Nady (in likely decending cost) are all signed or under control through ‘09. That also increases their cost. We’re looking for someone to slot in at 6th or 7th in the order - we don’t need a cleanup hitter. To me for that reason, that he can play RF and 1B so fits in our ‘09 needs, and is salaried so much lower, Nady becomes the lowest risk acquisition. The cost is an issue, but it isn’t going to take 2 A prospects to land him - if Pitt insists on that, walk away. They’ll want pitching, maybe a 3B prospect. If McCutchen or Aceves and say Brad Suttle do the deal, I’d think about biting. We’ve got quite a few SP prospects of varying value - they’re not all going to pitch for us. Deal from strength. Maybe another pitcher or 2 and Marte gets included. Again, okay depending on who we’re talking. Don’t want to give top end guys (to me top end is Hughes, Jackson, Tabata, Melancon, some lower level guys, maybe even IPK, who I hold in much higher regard than many here) - neither of those guys have futures in Pitt so their leverage isn’t unlimited either. That isn’t a deal that destroys our future, ‘09, or anything really.
There’s no overarching rule here. If you feel the deal is good, go for it and hope it gets you over the hump. I don’t see Washburn as a worth the $ cost difference maker, even though I do see Ponson as a ticking timebomb. I’m not either a go for it now at all costs type, or a prospect hugger. (That was a good one G. Love). I believe in making good deals, and recognize they can blow up in your face, as can prospects.
Those ready to toss aside Kennedy would be well advised to check Volquez’s early majors forays. Sure Volquez is a “stuff” pitcher. So is Homer Bailey, and he’s struggling early on. Look at Blackburn and Slowey for Minnesota - while we beat them recently, they’re having a nice seasons and don’t blow people away. IPK is a guy who pitches to spots, and rookies relying on corners are going to struggle early on, because they get less slack from umps. But plenty of great pitchers have made their careers doing that, as have many good mid-rotation guys. Minors performance is an indicator of possible future performance - you can’t just toss it aside.
“it is obvious. At the same time, really haven’t seen the matter discussed. Not even on the scout boards (pinstripe plus, etc).”
That’s because it’s not particularly interesting to talk about. Who’s going to say “No! They don’t need to do that!” Who’s got any evidence that they haven’t already done that effectively? The front office are the only ones that know who’s on the not-as-good-as-other-teams-think list; otherwise it’d be completely useless.
No I want Salty and Milton Bradley (Go steal’em Cash)
“Isn’t Dunn just another Big Sexy? He’s feast or famine.”
Only if you ignore the fact that Sexson doesn’t walk either. Dunn makes an out about 60% of the time or a little less. He also has a buttload of homers. Sexson makes outs around 70% of the time. Less against lefties this season, which is why they picked him up.
….Francesca just said, to Girardi “I have to give you credit for Farnsworth”
…Apocalypse, much?
Anyone know who will be calling balls and strikes this evening?
Please no Laz Diaz types.
trolls lol i like that
Fransworth still gonna end up with a high 4 ERa.I mean besides Veras and Mo not one of these pitchers pitch back to back days.
Ray…. I admire Lester and he’s been on a great roll recently but I think the Yanks have hit him before his last start against them… Do you think seeing him twice in less than a month could slightly make him more vulnerable. Ponson will be knocked out early but I could see Sunday night being a back forth 9-7 type of battle
ray…will you still call me a friend after we sweep y’all ?
Gardy ? watsup Joe G w/ these nicknames ?
Brandon…. I would be in heaven if we got Salty…. He’s not hitting this year but thats some young talent right there who we could also play at 1st base…. doubt it will happen but Texas does have 3 young catchers with Teagarden, Ramirez, and Salty… never quite thought about getting Salty…
laiz is soooo lame u cant lie thou whom even is behind the plate has a huge impact on the game….. all part of the game i guess it just sux to be on the short end
That’s all I’m saying. I heard Kay on the radio and he made perfect sense.
You can’t keep all of these prospects. We don’t even have room for all of them in the rotation or the pen next year.
Some of them have to go and they should go for something that can help the team right now.
It just seems you mention trading anyone in the minor league system and people flip out in here.
Here’s a newsflash. They are not all going to NY Yankees some day.
Some of them may make the majors, most of them won’t and some may get traded if our GM ever decides to make a deal for someone who wasn’t DFA’d.
I can’t believe that you call yourself a fan of this team and then you say I’d rather not go for it this year and wait.
Are you kidding me?
I’m not saying trade them all, but trade some of them. How many right handed starting pitching prospects do we need? All of them?
We have 1 positional prospect who might make the team in the next 2-3 years in Jackson.
1.
Where are the OF’ers going to come from? The waiver wire?
And whoever posted that it wouldn’t shock them if the Red Sox traded Manny to the Mets for prospects and then traded their own prospects for Holliday was on to something.
They go in for the kill and they know when to cut bait.
It seems like we’re just sitting watching everyone else make deals and get players who can help us.
I’d like to see something besides a DFA signee in the next 6 days that improves this club.
The pen is magnificent right now. Joe Torre could and would not have been able to do this.
Our top 3 starters are doing their jobs. The 4 & 5 guys are holding their own.
It’s almost August and we’re 3 out.
If I own the team you make a run now and you give up something to get something that can help this team that’s been decimated by injuries.
ray( out on red sox fan)
out on main street right now here on cape cod, a lot of smack is being talked about how it’s joba’s first time at fenway starting blah, blah, blah ,but don’t red sox fans realize yet that he’s the real deal?
there are charisma guys that go beyond the stats. yaz,conigliaro,garciaparra, mantle, jeter, guidry etc.
i think joba is one of those.
red sox fans who are hoping he’s going to suck are in for a long next 10-15 years.
the way jason stark paints the washburn situation is exactly how i see it. take igawa for washburn and we’ll give you a lesser prospect or else eat half of washburn’s contract. otherwise take a walk.
http://insider.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=mlb_trade_deadline&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fespn%2fblog%2findex%3fname%3dmlb_trade_deadline
G Love just for you
Alan Horne, Ian Kennedy, JB Cox, Brad Suttle, Colin Curtis
for
Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Milton Bradley + an A ball player
Like it ? hate it ?
Meant to add I would have liked to see us in the Harden deal - he didn’t drain the Cubs. But Beane never would have moved him to the Yanks with us both in Wild Card contention. That would have been very pricey.
There’s really not many pitching options out there. It’s hard to imagine the Dodgers moving Lowe while fighting for their division. Byrd does nothing for me. I wouldn’t mind Maddux but it sounds unlikely he’d go for it. We’re probably stuck with chasing cheap unreliables having good years (or in Washburn’s case, months) like Ponson - Redding or Odalis Perez in Washington - or biting the bullet on Washburn. Good chance a promo of a AAA guy could be about as good and cost nothing, or that Ponson and Ras get us where we would have gotten anyway. Please those insisting Washburn is an obvious upgrade - do some analysis or listen to some contrary evidence. That is far from obvious given the cost of the deal, unless that plummets.
G Love… I agree totally with you… I love our minor league system and enjoy following it but not all of these guys are going to be Yanks…. We have many pitching prospects to deal from as even if we give up a guy like Betances, we still have Brackman and likely Cole to promote through our system…. I love wathcing the kids grow but we need to go for it this year as every team is showing signs of weakness this year with no clear cut world series contender…. we could steal it this year while continueing our process of getting younger
Vito….Vito….you know I have always said I like your passion! We will be friends no matter what the end result.
Tyler,
I think the Yankee offense has finally been living up to its potential some so I would not be surprised at all if they hit Lester.
As a Sox fan I like Lester because he is not the jerk that Beckett tends to be, and Lester has been pitching late into games with fewer walks. Something he did not do early in the season.
Randy,
I can’t speak for other fans. I think whenever the Sox and Yankees play each other fans from both teams talk a lot of trash about the opposing team’s players.
I can’t help but believe that for those Sox fans that really do follow baseball they know very well that Joba is the real deal! I think he is a great pitcher and anyone (Sox fan or otherwise) who does not see that is into denial big time.
Oh it’s like that G Love ? fine then. Forget I ever said it.
Be back later peoples.
Brandon -
Gardy - Gardner
Eddie - Edwar
Robby - Cano (his normal nickname)
Big G - Giambi
Raz - Rasner
Siddy - Ponson
Farnsy - Farnsworth
Hawk - Hawkins
Betty - Betemit
Alby - Albaladejo
Philly - Hughes
Matty - Matsui
Kenny - Kennedy
Girardi’s nickname handbook. I see he likes giving some of them feminine names lol
“I’m not saying trade them all, but trade some of them. How many right handed starting pitching prospects do we need? All of them?
We have 1 positional prospect who might make the team in the next 2-3 years in Jackson. ”
We don’t HAVE a Manny to deal to re-stock the system. Getting Holliday would cost us that ONE positional prospect, and most of the other most promising near-MLB guys we have. If it’s even possible.
So…we’d wind up with Alan Horne as the jewel of the system, be praying that Jose Tabata figures it out and that Austin Romine will be a big league catcher. And have to go sign the next Carlos Silva because kennedy and Hughes would both be gone.
Look, if Abreu was playing up to his career numbers, and we could move him…that’d be something that we could use. But every interesting vet is either under a no-trade, injured, or sucking.
not sure if it’s been posted (probably has), but apparently Manny was a scratch
Brandon,
I absolutely LOVE that offer. Love it. It gives us the OF and bat we need now and our catcher of the future.
Make it happen. I’d even take Padilla back if it helped that deal go through.
whozat: from the time cashman took over baseball operations, we’ve hired new scouts and cross-checkers. The short track record have been impressive, as the drafts have been impressive. However, who makes the internal scouting decisions? Is it the same group of scouts, or a different group? Will they make solid baseball decisions in evalating talent, as the ‘external’ scouting has? Yes. I find the topic, of interest.
Brandon: I’d even consider that deal.
Which means it hasn’t a chance in heck off getting done.
“However, who makes the internal scouting decisions? Is it the same group of scouts, or a different group? Will they make solid baseball decisions in evalating talent, as the ‘external’ scouting has? Yes. I find the topic, of interest.”
And what could any fan board bring to this discussion? Also, we uninformed fans can argue about the skills to talent evaluators within the organization all we want, but the fact is we have little but speculation to go on. Do any of us know who’s responsible for a given decision? Do we even know who brings which information to the table? What would be point of knowing? So that we can scapegoat someone when we hear a rumor that a guy we think is tradeable was removed from a deal?
There’s a right way, a wrong way, and a Yankee way and in no way does Manny Ramirez resemble a Yankee regardless of what he may put up for numbers in the next 2 years. For every step he takes, he takes 2 steps backward.
According to Ed Price of the Newark Star-Ledger, the Yankees have been scouting outfielder Randy Winn. Winn, 34, is hitting .277/.345/.390 in 401 plate appearances. He’s set to earn $8.25MM next year, and can block deals to ten clubs. You have to think the Yankees are treating this like another salary dump possibility.
why would the Yanks want Winn?
Who did the Yankees get from Houston for Bo Hall? PTBNL or an actual name?
“Alan Horne, Ian Kennedy, JB Cox, Brad Suttle, Colin Curtis
for
Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Milton Bradley + an A ball player”
This deal is basically Alan Horne, Kennedy and Cox for Salty and 2 months of Bradley. Bradley, who doesn’t play the OF anymore, really. It makes it so that Hughes is the only prospect we have above A ball that projects into the rotation. It gets a defensively questionable catcher who’s not hitting anymore, but will probably hit again. And 2 months of a DH.
I can’t tell if I’m more worried that Salty isn’t going to stick behind the plate or if I’m more worried that Horne’s value is so low because of his injuries that he won’t help land Salty. Huh.
“why would the Yanks want Winn?”
Can he play CF?
Saltalamacchia is absolutely the worst defensive catcher going and he’s even worse as a 1st baseman. NYY has a lot of catching talent coming up. He’s also not tearing the cover off of the ball. He’s striking out in one third of his at bats.
whozat, I think he moved to RF because of the Aaron Roward signing. Not too sure.
ray (red sox fan)-
i was actually surprised at the lack awareness about joba. i guess coming to this blog you get more yankee info than most red sox fans do. not every red sox gets extra innings and mlb tv so i think they are just not watching closely enough.
it is kind of fun talking smack. the fever pitch is getting up there as the afternoon goes on out here. the teams( and tampa bay) are actually close which wasn’t the case a month ago.
Winn hasn’t played CF full time since 2005 or even most of the time.
Winn hasn’t played CF full time since 2005 or even most of the time.
thanks for clearing that up.
Thank you Rebecca, for continuing to serve as the voice of sanity. I’m sorry, Brandon, but that trade is crazy. We’re giving up way too much. Bradley is basically a one year wonder who is constantly on the DL. No reason to give up five top prospects for two.
Boston Dirt Dogs report Manny is sitting out tonight
1. Jacoby Ellsbury, LF
2. Dustin Pedroia, 2B
3. David Ortiz, DH
4. Kevin Youkilis, 1B
5. Mike Lowell, 3B
6. J.D. Drew, RF
7. Jed Lowrie, SS
8. Jason Varitek, C
9. Coco Crisp, CF
Manny & Papi going back to back? is Manny even playing tonight, or is he just playing with himself?
Joe - Try being original for a change. Everything you can and will say is predictable. Yawn.
Ray - the Dark Side nearer draws you still … nearer … nearer … assimilate you will, young Jedi … it is your destiny …
They just did a live segment on NESN. Larry Luchino et al did a grand opening of “The Bleacher Bar”. They cut a hole in the outside wall of Fenway and you can sit on the outside of the park looking in.
THAT’S juuuust what Red Sox fans need…. another bar to get hammered in. They need more liquor like ARod needs Viagra.
“Saltalamacchia is absolutely the worst defensive catcher going and he’s even worse as a 1st baseman. NYY has a lot of catching talent coming up. He’s also not tearing the cover off of the ball. He’s striking out in one third of his at bats.”
Then I like that deal less
I think realistically, it’s a cheap #4 starter, a cheap late-innings reliever, and a cheap middle reliever for 2 months of one DH and k-prone guy that might wind up without a position.
Alan Horne, Ian Kennedy, JB Cox, Brad Suttle, Colin Curtis
for
Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Milton Bradley + an A ball player”
Jarrod Saltalamachia? Not as a catcher, I hope!
His future is as a first basemen - he’s a lousy defensive catcher.
And Milton Bradley? Million dollar talent…ten cent head!
Manny trying to send a message to Boston. He wants a new contract, not a 1 year option deal.
It is pretty clear from what the Yanks are saying and what Pete has reported that catcher is not a point of emphasis before the deadline.
We are rolling with the M&M boys!
Don’t know much about it and cannot find any news anywhere about it, but a buddy just called me and told me Manny is in trouble with the front office.
Apparently his knee injury occurred in an off the field incident and he had a meeting with the Red Sox brass discussing disciplinary action…suspension.
Can anybody back me up and/or confirm this?
ML: I think that Jose Molina has been one of the most valuable players on the Yankees so far.
I’m not really sure I count as a voice of sanity
Non Yankee related but an interesting face:Yorvit Torrealba’s parents gave him his name when they could not decide between Yorman and Victor. They decided to combine the two into Yorvit.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorvit_Torrealba
Just popping in to say that so far I’ve called ‘em pretty right! So you can probably count on the Sux totally tanking at some point soon.
A special hi to Fran! We’ve received great rewards for keeping the faith and trusting in our boys!!!
GO YANKEES!!!
And in the words of the immortal Michael Kay, see ya!
JR
That is news to me, but interesting.
JR Yankees,
They are obviously upset with him about the assualt on the travel secretary. Then John Henry went public with his comments about Manny’s contract situation.
Given that Francona didnt cover up for Manny for a change and didnt hide any surprise about his “injury” in Seattle, I think it’s safe to say even the Enablers are getting weary of Manny.
No, you really do, Rebecca. You don’t overreact to each day’s headlines.
Having said that, I don’t think Molina has been one of our MVPs, but I do think that getting him for Kennard was a steal.
I wouldn’t post it here if I didn’t believe my buddy. He’s got XM, and said the station he was listening to broke the story.
Cannot find anything anywhere else about it however.
trisha has been right about 90% of her stuff.
SJ44 has been right about 20%
Go trisha
“Saltalamacchia is absolutely the worst defensive catcher going and he’s even worse as a 1st baseman.”
Because you have seen him play so many times and have personally scouted him right???
I love “fans”.
Winn or Justin Christian?
Get Benji Molina in that deal too.
ML: Value is relative
The Yankees have gotten far more from the molina deal than they expected.
That, and I love catching Molina brothers
You can’t overreact to headlines because the season is so long. You always have to consider the bigger picture.
Agreed starting catcher is not a primary concern. It shouldn’t be, unless there’s reason to believe Posada will never regain his ability to throw.
Molina is solid on D, he’s gunning half the base runners who test him, and with the team hitting as was expected of them we can live with a .230 bat (just one) for the rest of the season. If they want to upgrade Molina’s backup catcher that’s fine, but that’s not a priority either.
Even if Posada were unable to come back (there has been no indication he won’t) the team’s still OK with Molina being the ’starter’ for the rest of this year. And if it were the case (again, it really sounds like it isn’t) a year end trade would be something to consider … at the end of the year.
Replacing Posada’s bat by picking up an OF or 1B who can hit and defend (meaning - NO BONDS!) would be the way to go. A rental or someone a multi-year situatuion are both options there, depending on who we’re talking about and at what cost.
Manny is a quitter.
Manny being Manny
Ah yes … this guy’s worse than what Sox Nation’s brainwashed collective blindly presumes all NY players become once they’re Yankees.
This is truly priceless.
The loss of Posada means they desperately need a big bat who can play LF and DH.
That bat is Dunn.
Girardi said he doesn’t want a catcher, necessarily. He is very happy with the way Moeller has handled Rasner and Molina is playing right now.
Imagine Jeter not playing because he’s mad about his contract.
WOW
…Pete, you coul have waited till after I ate dinner. Now I’m off my appetite entirely
Don’t insult “The Nation.”
Red Sox Nation is the coolest thing ever. You get a sticker and everything.
Cody,
What do you expect Girardi to say?
When has Girardi ever said he doesn’t want his players that he already has? When has he not backed them up? This is a guy who backed Farnsworth at his lowest.
He’s not going to campaign for another catcher. he’s too smart for that crap.
Of course, Frank - you can always count on Every Sox Proponent’s Network to gush over Ortiz and focus on A-Rod’s off-field papparazi stuff.
Yawwwn ….
Dunn bats lefty. Where would Damon play DH? That would mean Posada out. Posada prob should get surgery now so it makes sense. Dunn seems like another Giambi though. Maybe he is just back up for when/if the Melkman gets traded. That may mean Damon in center though.
Pete definitely puts Pavano updates up to amuse himself and us. Because they are funny.
whozat: will NYY’s ‘internal scouting’ be as successful as the ‘external scouting’ has been? For lack of better terminology. That is the question. And no, not into scape-goating.
Rebecca -
So when do you think Pavano’s scheduled to FINISH a game?
Never?
McN, I watched Saltalamacchia catch in Atlanta and try playing first base and when he came through savannah to play in the Sally League. He just hasn’t improved. He’s not a good defensive player and, right now, he’s not hitting well enough (and, in a hitter’s park) to be of much value, so yeah…I’ve seen him play enough to know that unless he improves a lot, this week, he’s not worth the trade, and NYY has at least four catchers in the farm system that are better than him defensively, right now. I’d prefer the Yanks picked up Gerald Laid, if they felt the need to get a catcher.
The Yankees need a pitcher. I don’t care if it’s Pavano as long as he performs. I want Pavano to come out and pitch great for us for about 4 starts.
He owes us yes?
ANSKY: Some time in 2009.
I’m confused. Why would teams be “clamoring” for an overrated, washed up, injury prone pitcher? Is Cashman just trying to find a sucker to take Hughes?
Interesting, Jeter just hit the ball into the door of the Monster. As Chris said, he’ll never do that again if he tried. Ortiz also hit a few home runs during batting practice - I’d say he’s fine.
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“Saltalamacchia is absolutely the worst defensive catcher going and he’s even worse as a 1st baseman”
well, that’s ok. We need a 1st baseman in the system, anyway.
Carl Pavano is scheduled to start a GCL game on Tuesday.
lol. Oh boy
Will K
Pavano has become the Clinton/Lewinsky joke of the blog. Good for one presidential term’s worth of saturation (saturation of humor not fluids you pervs) then everyone knows he’ll be out of office.
So the jokes get old but they’re still funny on some level.
my bad. Didn’t see the 1st baseman part.
***That’s Gerald Laird*** It’s up to Gerald to get laid.
Frank - Pavano owes us to the tune of 4 perfect games if all we get out of him is 4 more games.
Just my opinion, but I don’t want the Yankees to get anyone. I want them to be sellers at the deadline and eat some salary. They’ll get enough money off the books after this season.
I know I’m in the minority, but I kinda wish they didn’t go on this little win streak and look poised to go on another 2nd-half run. Now they’ve forced Cashman’s hand.
All I’m saying is Pavano pitching well for us is better than him not pitching for us.
What’s done is done and in the past.
I think you are more than confused MEL……
I’m sick of Gardner already. Why not start Christian? It seems to me like Christian IS Gardner but older, more ML ready and with more pop.
The Manny being Manny thing has gotten very old in Beansville and from the front office to the fans it’s reaching the end point.
If he thinks he’s holding the owners hostage or more importantly his teammates, then he needs to guess again.
He may have pushed the envelope too far this year by even more acts of defience than ever before.
Possibly 4 or 5 years ago the owners would jump at picking up his option years and maybe he senses that they won’t be interested in doing so this winter.
Frank,
You’re not alone. There’s a lot of us “prospect huggers”.
Who is Cashman trying to fool? He is always on his phone, but we all know trade talks are going on. I really don’t want the Yankees to give up anyone, but maybe that’s just my perspective.
you hear that guys Pavano. is. almost. back.
Doesn’t Manny have a bum knee?
I’m not sure that’s showing up the team.
Pavano for Manny
Vinny, the Yanks actually do have a bright young prospect playing in the system. Brandon Laird has moved to 1st base (and playing very well defensively) for Charleston after moving from third base. He hit for power and average last year in his first pro season at GCL. This year his average is moving up and his power is developing just fine. He’s only 20 years old. He is also Gerald Laird’s (Texas catcher) younger brother.
Pat M,
Seriously? You thought I was serious?
Dang, I’m good.
The only thing that concerns me regarding Molina is how w