Comments on: The roller-coaster 2008 roster http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/ A Yankees Blog by Journal News beat writer Peter Abraham Thu, 08 Jan 2009 19:55:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: don http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456960 don Sun, 27 Jul 2008 17:23:46 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456960 yes i woulf forget about wasburn he is no better than ponson or rasner, I like the possible trade w kc for bannister for melky , bannister is only 29 and Im sure we have much better youth or trade for a center fielder..? yes i woulf forget about wasburn he is no better than ponson or rasner, I like the possible trade w kc for bannister for melky , bannister is only 29 and Im sure we have much better youth or trade for a center fielder..?

]]> By: 86w183 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456844 86w183 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:38:39 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456844 Mussina has been pretty clear about being just about ready to spend more time with the kids.. I'm not certain he wants to pitch much longer, but four or five more wins would make 300 seem doable in two more years and that might affect him. I bet both he and Pettite look to pitch at least one year in the new stadium. Add in Wang and Chamberlain and that's most of your '09 rotation right there. Mussina has been pretty clear about being just about ready to spend more time with the kids.. I’m not certain he wants to pitch much longer, but four or five more wins would make 300 seem doable in two more years and that might affect him.

I bet both he and Pettite look to pitch at least one year in the new stadium. Add in Wang and Chamberlain and that’s most of your ‘09 rotation right there.

]]> By: rover http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456832 rover Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:25:46 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456832 Asuming no disintegration for the rest of the year, I think Moose is a lock for the one of the bottom starters. I don't believe at his age there would be huge physical dropoffs year to year, until maybe 42 to 43 and then who is to say loosing 1 to 3 additionla mph in velocity would do anything other than increase the movement of the pitches. Moose is getting by now on knowledge planning and command not velocity. He also knows the magic 300 is more likely in NY. I honestly believe he will be a solid bottom end for any team with some offense. Personally There will be few options with the proven abilities of moose and 30 teams fighting to get those few. He has already achieved this season what I would have thought to be the most we could expect from him, and he did that with a team in turmoil and unable to score. You bring him back until he proves you can't bring him back, he is old school and you always get everything he has, he is a competitor who takes pitching seriously as the art form it is. He needs and wants to win. Of course the money matters too, but in his case there is also another prize on the horizon for the Moose,want and need when combined in the right situation can be very powerful and tough to defeat. Moose could do what he does for 4,5,6 more years. I believe you pencil him at #4 or 5 until you can't then you shop for another #4 or 5, those guys are generally around. Asuming no disintegration for the rest of the year, I think Moose is a lock for the one of the bottom starters. I don’t believe at his age there would be huge physical dropoffs year to year, until maybe 42 to 43 and then who is to say loosing 1 to 3 additionla mph in velocity would do anything other than increase the movement of the pitches. Moose is getting by now on knowledge planning and command not velocity. He also knows the magic 300 is more likely in NY. I honestly believe he will be a solid bottom end for any team with some offense. Personally There will be few options with the proven abilities of moose and 30 teams fighting to get those few. He has already achieved this season what I would have thought to be the most we could expect from him, and he did that with a team in turmoil and unable to score. You bring him back until he proves you can’t bring him back, he is old school and you always get everything he has, he is a competitor who takes pitching seriously as the art form it is. He needs and wants to win. Of course the money matters too, but in his case there is also another prize on the horizon for the Moose,want and need when combined in the right situation can be very powerful and tough to defeat. Moose could do what he does for 4,5,6 more years. I believe you pencil him at #4 or 5 until you can’t then you shop for another #4 or 5, those guys are generally around.

]]> By: PL http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456825 PL Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:18:11 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456825 Cano in a Greinke deal? Blasphemy. Pure BS. Cano in a Greinke deal? Blasphemy. Pure BS.

]]> By: 86w183 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456817 86w183 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:09:15 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456817 Bannister is a step down from Ponson and Rasner, ain't happening. Grienke is too emotional, can't handle NYC so that aint happening either. Melky is not going to be dealt now... we have already seen what happens when Brett Gardner plays every day... it aint pretty. One of the problems with a Washburn trade is the impact it has on the decision making with regards to putting together the '09 rotation. It would seem to lock up three spots for Washburn, Cahmberlain and Wang... now what to do about Pettite? Mussina? CC Sabathia? Hughes? Kennedy? and so on I cannot for the life of me figure out the anti-Teixiera sentiment out there. What's it based on? He's a Gold Glove first baseman, a switch hitter from both sides and turns 29 in April. While his has not been a great year for him offensively, .277 with 20 HR and 77 RBI is pretty strong. the last three years his average season is .305 35 HR and 120 RBI. If the alleged price tag really is $ 23 million a year then you look the other way, but if the price tag is reasonable he is exectly the type of free agent the Yankees should always be interested in because he's an all-star caliber player in his prime at a position of need. Bannister is a step down from Ponson and Rasner, ain’t happening. Grienke is too emotional, can’t handle NYC so that aint happening either.

Melky is not going to be dealt now… we have already seen what happens when Brett Gardner plays every day… it aint pretty.

One of the problems with a Washburn trade is the impact it has on the decision making with regards to putting together the ‘09 rotation. It would seem to lock up three spots for Washburn, Cahmberlain and Wang… now what to do about Pettite? Mussina? CC Sabathia? Hughes? Kennedy? and so on

I cannot for the life of me figure out the anti-Teixiera sentiment out there. What’s it based on? He’s a Gold Glove first baseman, a switch hitter from both sides and turns 29 in April. While his has not been a great year for him offensively, .277 with 20 HR and 77 RBI is pretty strong. the last three years his average season is .305 35 HR and 120 RBI.

If the alleged price tag really is $ 23 million a year then you look the other way, but if the price tag is reasonable he is exectly the type of free agent the Yankees should always be interested in because he’s an all-star caliber player in his prime at a position of need.

]]> By: bigjf http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456812 bigjf Sun, 27 Jul 2008 15:00:23 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456812 I don't think I would do the Bannister trade, though I wouldn't hate it. But really, I feel like the Yanks should either try to get a catcher who can hit a bit or just stay put. Maybe bring back Kennedy, and definitely bring up Aceves once he is sufficiently stretched out. I don’t think I would do the Bannister trade, though I wouldn’t hate it. But really, I feel like the Yanks should either try to get a catcher who can hit a bit or just stay put. Maybe bring back Kennedy, and definitely bring up Aceves once he is sufficiently stretched out.

]]> By: Jorge Steinbrenner http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456805 Jorge Steinbrenner Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:49:13 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456805 "Melky I don’t care wither way. If it’s true that Ichiro has the condition of a 27 year-old and is 35 on his ID only then I would love to see Nady, Ichiro and Bobby in the outfield next year (this means signing Bobby for one more yr, and Ichiro as leadoff over Damon), then Nady, Jackson, Ichiro in 2010." I wouldn't put much stock in Ichiro having the physical condition of a 27 year-old, or whatever. Aging in aging. A whole lot of similar stories were being said about Jorge Posada before this season. I love Ichiro. I would have loved him much more five years ago. “Melky I don’t care wither way. If it’s true that Ichiro has the condition of a 27 year-old and is 35 on his ID only then I would love to see Nady, Ichiro and Bobby in the outfield next year (this means signing Bobby for one more yr, and Ichiro as leadoff over Damon), then Nady, Jackson, Ichiro in 2010.”

I wouldn’t put much stock in Ichiro having the physical condition of a 27 year-old, or whatever. Aging in aging. A whole lot of similar stories were being said about Jorge Posada before this season.

I love Ichiro. I would have loved him much more five years ago.

]]> By: Jorge Steinbrenner http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456802 Jorge Steinbrenner Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:46:58 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456802 "The Yankees are a win now organazation right?? We all agree." *Raises hand* Depends on what your definition of "win now" is. “The Yankees are a win now organazation right?? We all agree.”

Raises hand

Depends on what your definition of “win now” is.

]]> By: Jorge Steinbrenner http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456800 Jorge Steinbrenner Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:44:57 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456800 We shouldn't weaken CF for Zach Grienke. I'm glad he's coming around. You don't want a young guy's career to suffer because of emotional issues. You want them to show the ressiliance, come back and, hopefully, he has. He'd also still be a major question mark at Yankee Stadium, and we'd be weakening further where we're weak (young position players) to strengthen a strength (young pitching with major MLB potential.) Better trades will be made in the off-season when we continue to look at which young pitchers we fully invest in and which can be spun off and replaced within the system. That's when we can trade our young pitching surplus for young position players. And Cano....the return better be Tim Lincecum or something, I swear. We shouldn’t weaken CF for Zach Grienke. I’m glad he’s coming around. You don’t want a young guy’s career to suffer because of emotional issues. You want them to show the ressiliance, come back and, hopefully, he has.

He’d also still be a major question mark at Yankee Stadium, and we’d be weakening further where we’re weak (young position players) to strengthen a strength (young pitching with major MLB potential.)

Better trades will be made in the off-season when we continue to look at which young pitchers we fully invest in and which can be spun off and replaced within the system. That’s when we can trade our young pitching surplus for young position players.

And Cano….the return better be Tim Lincecum or something, I swear.

]]> By: Coach Jay23 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456797 Coach Jay23 Sun, 27 Jul 2008 14:31:10 +0000 http://yankees.lhblogs.com/2008/07/27/the-roller-coaster-2008-roster/#comment-456797 Heres my thoughts guys, The Yankees are a win now organazation right?? We all agree. After the trade the Yanks just made, there is no way that Cashman trades are starting CF (Who now can relax and not worry bout being traded and play like he did the firts 2 games of this series)and Go with a rookie in CF for a stretch run. We all Damon can not play CF, and Nady is not a CF. Melky stays and the only way we get Washburn if it SEA understands we will take all of his contract and they will get a low-level guy. LETS GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!! Heres my thoughts guys, The Yankees are a win now organazation right?? We all agree. After the trade the Yanks just made, there is no way that Cashman trades are starting CF (Who now can relax and not worry bout being traded and play like he did the firts 2 games of this series)and Go with a rookie in CF for a stretch run. We all Damon can not play CF, and Nady is not a CF. Melky stays and the only way we get Washburn if it SEA understands we will take all of his contract and they will get a low-level guy. LETS GO YANKEES!!!!!!!!!

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