Game 106: Orioles at Yankees
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 29, 2008 
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YANKEES (58-45)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez DH
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Betemit 3B
Cabrera CF
Moeller C
Rasner RHP
Darrell Rasner (5-7, 4.83) vs. the Baltimore hitters.
Daniel Cabrera (6-6, 4.86) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Orioles are 15-13 against the Yankees over the last two seasons, 104-135 against everybody else. It has something to do with Kevin Millar destroying the Yankees. … Jeter has hit safely in nine straight at 13 of 41 (.317). … Jason Giambi is 4 for 20 since the All-Star break. And you would think four days in Vegas would be relaxing. … Damon is back in left for the first time since he got hurt on July 4.
PITCHING PROBLEMS: The Yankees have allowed 32 hits and 22 runs in their last 17 innings.
STEADY EDDIE: It would seem Edwar Ramirez may not be a one-trick pony after all. It’s hard to ignore what he has done. He has gone 13 innings without allowing a run and 11 innings without giving up a hit. His line in the last 11 appearances: 13 1 0 0 3 17.
TRADE TALK: The Yankees seem to be expanding their horizons in search of a starter. There does not seem to be a great difference-maker available but they only need somebody better than Rasner or Sidney Ponson.
Back at the stadium, hopped up on Red Bull and ready to go. Check back later for updates. Oh, and thanks to everybody who has been sending in e-mails about seeing Springsteen last night. Great to see that so many Yankees fans are fans of the real Boss, too.
UPDATE, 4:16 p.m.: Chien-Ming Wang got his cast off today and X-rays revealed that his foot fracture has healed.
He will wear a walking boot and use his crutches for another week or so. He also has been fitted for a special insole that will cushion his foot. That is scheduled to arrive in a week. At that point, he will head down to Tampa and start rehabbing.
If Wang is starting his rehab on or around Aug. 5, it’s just about unrealistic to think he can help the Yankees much this season. It’s going to take him 4-5 weeks to get ready to pitch again. Said Wang: “I want to pitch this year. We’ll see.”
UPDATE, 6:01 p.m.: Bad news for the Yankees: Mark Teixeira to the Angels for Casey Kotchman. The Yankees have 10 games left against the Angels.
UPDATE, 6:15 p.m.: Brian Cashman just spoke to some reporters. “Realistically, I don’t see anything happening,” he said.
He said the pitching options are Rasner and Ponson with Kennedy and Aceves in AAA and Hughes starting his rehab.
But keep in mind that the trade deadline is sort of an artificial one. A guy like Jarrod Washburn would clear waivers easily and could be dealt in August. The real deadline is Aug. 31 when the rosters have to be set.
UPDATE, 6:39 p.m.: This from the AP in Tampa:
New York Yankees left-hander Eric Milton took another step in his comeback from elbow surgery by throwing 35 pitches Tuesday in his first simulated game.
Milton, who had surgery in June 2007, went 0-4 with a 5.17 ERA in six starts with Cincinnati last season. The 32-year-old Milton could be ready to pitch in a minor league game in the next few weeks.
The Yankees signed Milton to a minor league contract on July 11, returning the pitcher to the organization that originally picked him 20th overall in the 1996 draft.
Also, right-hander Victor Zambrano threw 46 pitches in his second simulated game, and Shelly Duncan batted. Duncan, a first baseman-outfielder, separated his shoulder while making a diving catch for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre on July 1.
Free agent left-hander Joey Eischen worked out, throwing 37 pitches.
Andrew Brackman, who had an appendectomy on June 10, is scheduled to throw off the mound Thursday. He was taken by the Yankees in the first round of the 2007 draft.
UPDATE, 7:11 p.m.: Well, at this point Rasner should just give up and walk Markakis every time. He breaks his bat and he still gets a single. Markakis is now 10 for 12 aganst Rasner.
UPDATE, 7:17 p.m.: The Charleston game that Hughes and some other guy – Karl Pagano or something – are supposed to pitch in is being delayed by rain.
I would think the Yankees will be far more interested in how Ian Kennedy pitches for Scranton tonight. I realize they’re trying to make him earn his way. But if he pitches well again, it becomes silly to keep him in the minors and keep running Sidney Ponson out there.
UPDATE, 7:29 p.m.: I hate to say it. But it could be time for The Big G to shave the ‘stache. He has been pretty brutal of late (4 for 21) and leaving men on bases in bunches.
UPDATE, 8:32 p.m.: Carl Pavano threw two innings for Charleston 2 1 0 0 1 4. Cashman made sure to say today that they had no expectations of him pitching in the majors this season. They’ll let him rehab and then that will be that.
Hughes is now in the game.
Meanwhile, stop complaining about Rasner. This is what a No. 5 starter does, he holds a team like Baltimore to two runs over five or six innings. You want him to be Cy Young. This game, so far, is on the offense.
UPDATE, 8:40 p.m.: Phil Hughes threw two innings for Charleston. One hit, one walk, no K’s. 14 pitches/10 strikes.
Alas, he slapped Pavano on the back and said “Good job” and fractured Pavano’s spine. Joe Girardi said he was day to day.
UPDATE, 8:54 p.m.: But wait! Hughes pitched a third inning. His line was 3 2 0 0 1 1. 28 pitches, 20 strikes.
UPDATE, 9:03 p.m.: Rasner did what they needed him to do, although pushing him into the seventh inning might have been asking a little too much.
This team just can’t solve Cabrera this season. He has thrown 19 innings against the Yankees and allowed five runs.
UPDATE, 9:07 p.m.: Rasner had not pitched into the seventh inning since June 6. Not a surprise what happened.
Meanwhile, Marte is getting rocked and this game is all but over.
UPDATE, 9:37 p.m.: That was weird. You almost never see a pitcher ejected for hitting a batter without warnings first being issued, although the umpires have a right to do that.
Either Chad Fairchild is wildly overreacting or perhaps Cabrera had words with A-Rod earlier the game. Did A-Rod pose after his home run?
Cabrera is known for being wild. Whatever it was, he’s out.
UPDATE, 9:41 p.m.: A-Rod had a very animated discussion at second base with Brian Roberts.
Meanwhile, Baltimore just fell asleep and let a run score.
Bobby Meacham held A-Rod despite Adam Jones conceding the run. So A-Rod looked and went himself.
UPDATE, 9:44 p.m.: I have to assume Xavier Nady was being saved for Moeller. Man, Betemit is brutal.
UPDATE, 9:55 p.m.: It sure is weird how Mo pitches differently when it’s not a save situation. It’s to the point where it’s not a quirk.
UPDATE, 10:06 p.m.: That home run Mo gave up really hurts now.
Rock on Edwar.
Let’s go Yanks!
Pete did he play Thunder Road?
Posted this in the previous thread too. I know there were many people interested.
Somebody asked earlier how long Hughes was supposed to pitch tonight and I am not sure if it has been answered yet.
Yankees.com has both Hughes and Pavano slated for 2 innings apiece.
arod dh?
nady should be in RF with abreu dh
bad move.
“And you would think four days in Vegas would be relaxing”
Not necessarily. It could be quite exhausting. Er, not that I have any first hand knowledge of that.
id love to be a fly on the wall in Cashman’s office to find out what pitchers the Yankees consider ‘on the market’ or who they are inquiring about.
Can Derek Lowe be had? I wonder.
nady hits a homer and then sits today? why?
If you want to trade prospects what about Duchscherer, I read others have contacted the A’s about him.
Arod needs a break every once in a while, and without damon there is no lead off hitter, and abreu I think has been hitting well since the break = nady day off
“Can Derek Lowe be had? I wonder.”
no. Dodgers GM already said publically Lowe is unavailable because they are in the pennant race.
Cash should go up to Toronto and beat Ricciardi until he surrenders Burnett.
“arod dh?
nady should be in RF with abreu dh
bad move.”
maybe Arod needs a 1/2 day???
I couldn’t bear to read the blog during the game last night – but Bobby Abreu’s wall-o-phobia is something that I will not miss when he moves along.
At least Moose didn’t let it bother him
Any ideas other than Washburn as to which starters might be in the horizon?
Any names?
Peter,
Any word on Wang getting his cast off?
“nady hits a homer and then sits today? why?”
very tough, hard throwing righty on the mound.
keep the lefties in the lineup.
am I the only one here who thinks Bruce Springsteen sucks?
“Cash should go up to Toronto and beat Ricciardi until he surrenders Burnett.”
Or he could just search under “fragile+expensive” on google and see what the #1 result is.
“maybe Arod needs a 1/2 day???”
we just got off the allstar break. and dh’ing isnt a day off.
“Cash should go up to Toronto and beat Ricciardi until he surrenders Burnett.”
As long as you’re going to commit a felony you might as well go all the way and grab Halladay.
Nady sits in flavor of Betemit? that’s not right.
Bruce makes me proud to be a jersey girl.
This is not the most imposing line up the Yankees have ever had, but that’s all right.
Darrell Rasner will be the Yankee stopper =D
What about David Wells or Freddy Garcia? Is David Wells really that bad, that no one has signed him yet? He always did well in NY, at least from what I remember. He was a big game pitcher, and these last two months don’t get any bigger right now. There is no sense trading for someone if Wang will be back in a month.
“Or he could just search under “fragile+expensive†on google and see what the #1 result is.”
Nice one.
The last 2 games haven’t looked so good…hopefully they can rebound. Has there been any new information on Matsui’s attempted comeback or is he going to go the way of Posada?
Doris I’m listening to Micheal Kay I haven’t heard this can anyone confirm this ?
you’re not alone Del….
I expect a big game from big tooth.
This line up is rediculous Giambi looks lost at the plate he should be sitting with Nady at 1st.
“There does not seem to be a great difference-maker available but they only need somebody better than Rasner or Sidney Ponson.”
No, they really don’t. I’m ok with the best of Rasner/Ponson/Aceves/Kennedy filling those last two spots (Ponson needs to be replaced) until Hughes/Pavano(I know) come back. Wang is a possibility in September as well.
Basically I would rather not give up any talent to have someone come in and pitch only slightly better than our current #5 starter for only a month, its not worth it. Also I would rather not owe Washburn over 10 mil next season.
“am I the only one here who thinks Bruce Springsteen sucks?”
I don’t think he sucks. I do think that he’s unbelievably overrated. People ignore the fact that he’s not a great singer. I think they like that working class guy attitude he has.
I will give him credit for giving people their money’s worth when they go to his concerts. A lot of acts don’t even stay on the stage for 1.5 hrs. At least Bruce gives you your money’s worth.
it would hard to be fans of the real boss (i.e., George Steinbrenner) and not be fans of the Yanks, right?
*Im sorry, FoxSports radio (via XM satellite radio)*
Ok Doris I have faith in your comments.
“Doris I’m listening to Micheal Kay I haven’t heard this can anyone confirm this ?”
whoa… Zach Greinke, huh?
Brandon-
If there is any truth to that deal for Grienke, I bet Olivo is in there too.
“ESPN Radio reporting yanks are close to trading for Zach Grienke for a package of prospects”
Oh, geez! Do we really need another mentally unstable player on the term? NY will eat this guy alive. I hope this isn’t true.
This is a speculation from Doris
Del The Funkee Homosapien said:
“am I the only one here who thinks Bruce Springsteen sucks?”
Yes you are and I suggest you run away. Big Man Clarence heard you and is on his way over to kick your a**.
If Damon can play the outfield, am I the only one who thinks he should play in CF and Melky should be benched?
Everyone will cite the runs Melky saves on defense, but it isn’t worth the much greater umber of runs he costs us at the plate.
If it were me, I’d live with Damons defense if it meant getting Melky’s dead bat out of the lineup. He’s just awful.
I wonder who are those prospects?
Olivo has to be in that package if it’s true. God what would they give up for Greinke ?
Betemit should never play anything but DH..i wanna now the reasoning for this
apparantly the deal on the table is Coke, Melky + a B level prospect of the royals choice
again Doris is hearing this on the radio satellite right now
I hope they don’t trade Hughes, Kennedy, Marquez, Jackson, Aceves or Mike Whitt. Mike Whitt is still in the system, right?
@Bob
“If it were me, I’d live with Damons defense if it meant getting Melky’s dead bat out of the lineup. He’s just awful.”
Ok fine. Damon in CF, Nady in LF and Giambi at 1B, melky on the bench.
Who DH’s?
You leave Melky in center the way the roster is constructed now, defensive issues aside.
It’s probably Bannister & Olivo.
Yeah what is with Betemit over Nady? Afraid the new guy might get hot after he got his first big hit? Girardi with his righty-lefty matchups is sometimes too much. Arod needs a rest? I’d give Jeter 1/2 a day or whatever. Maybe it’ll wake him up. Looks like he needs it.
“Betemit should never play anything but DH..i wanna now the reasoning for this”
Probably Arod needed a day off from the field?
Doris thanks for the info keep us informed on this.
Not good. Melky’s arm and defense really has helped stop the running game on the Yanks.
not a fan of these Grienke rumors
“apparantly the deal on the table is Coke, Melky + a B level prospect of the royals choice”
Either you are lying or the person on the radio is lying. Greinke is worth WAY more than that. I’d say Melky, Hughes and another prospect gets you Grienke.
“apparantly the deal on the table is Coke, Melky + a B level prospect of the royals choice”
Ummm, Coke is a B-level prospect. This is bunk.
i dont think we are ready to get rid of melky
Patrick-
thats what they said… i cant tell you if they are lying or not
If they can get Melky out of that Grenkie deal, then it’s great. Greinke KILLS Washburn. If that deal that was listed is true, and they can substitute Melky with Gardner, they should do it in a second.
I don’t see how it’s possible that they want so little in return for Greinke.
I appreciate the positive spin on the stats but how come you never pull out the “Jeter is tied with Lyle Overbay for second in the American League in GIDPs with 16, one behind Vlad Guerrero.” He has been killing us with those this year and never more than the last few days.
Del,
Add me to the club.
If by Grienke they mean Bannister then I’m good with it.
Girardi definitely overmanages on these lineups. It’s like he’s playing a video game.
where is CM? pretty sure you can add him to the club, as well…
“I don’t see how it’s possible that they want so little in return for Greinke.”
It’s not. More along the lines of a package for Bannister.
I can’t stand some of the lineups that Girardi puts up. Why do you sit Nady who just got here and is looking to build from yesterday? Why put Betemit anywhere on the field as a starter unless the regular is just plain exhausted? Betemit is a butcher with his defense.
Meanwhile, Melky keeps going with his declining batting average.
Grienke is pretty good if the Yanks do this Cash has pulled off 2 heists.
It was Ken Rosenthal… i could have heard it wrong but im fairly certain those were the players involved from the yankees
“He always did well in NY, at least from what I remember.”
Key words being “from what I remember…” Wells is done, nothing more than a memory. And the way he screwed the Yankees, no longer even a happy memory.
Regarding Springsteen’s singing, please have a listen to his range on albums like Born To Run, Greetings from Asbury Park, and The Wild, The Innocent and the E Street Shuffle. True, he’s pared it down in recent years, and has developed something of a “twang”, but the observation that he can’t sing is so off base. On those early albums, he displays beautifully his gift for almost roaring his words while maintaining the full caramel-like quality of Roy Orbison-type singing.
markakis is 9-11 against Rasner… thats incredible… millar is 4-9… thats 13-20… the rest of the lineup is 4-43.
i wonder if he will pitch around them haha..
no nady already?
What about Jose Guillen? Apparantly he wants out of KC: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3509805
Girardi’s picking the wrong pitcher (Rasner) to screw around with the lineup on. He needs all the run support he can get right now.
I’d do IPK, Melky and a mid level for Greinke this instant. The Yanks should sweeten the pot Greinke is on his way to Stud-dom.
Id like for Wang to come back more than anyone they could trade for
I read the other day that Greinke, if traded, was going to require a lot from any team getting him. And from the above suggestions, that is not a lot.
“apparantly the deal on the table is Coke, Melky + a B level prospect of the royals choice”
Doris, i am not accusing YOU of making this up, but someone is full of crap here.
the commissioner would probably block this trade it’s so lopsided.
there is 0% chance of this happening.
I would trade Hughes for Greinke
Doris, have they repeated/expanded on this trade possibility?
just for the record, greinke > bannister in a big way. coke + melky and a b level would be a heist.
Bruce has a good voice…but I’d be the first to admit his style of singing isnt for everyone. I like the scratchy voice style, so it works for me (and obviously a lot of other people).
“Girardi definitely overmanages on these lineups. It’s like he’s playing a video game.”
if anything he under manages the lineup i think.
but todays lineup is pointless and just delivers garbage defense. abreu misses a catch at game minimum and now with nady we dont have to put up with it anymore. DH him. and Betemit at 3rd is just awful. theres a few plays tonight right there.
Doris- Greinke would be better, this team doesnt need a bat.
Doris update us here ..
Maybe that’s what the Yankees are offering. It doesnt mean they would accept it.
No excuses…Play like a Champion!!
i agree with girardi over managing a bit here. I think Nady should be in the lineup. The guy is trying to adjust to the AL and the stadium. I know you need to rest arod occasionally, but after the last two games, i think we really need a win. with rasner in, we should have the best lineup out there. abreu should dh.
Why would the Royals trade Greinke? Does not make sense.
And if the rumor is Bannister? No thanks. He’s really not that good. Might as well try IPK again if you’re going after him.
I hope he does.
“True, he’s pared it down in recent years, and has developed something of a “twangâ€, but the observation that he can’t sing is so off base.”
Not in my opinion, which is the only position I can speak from. I know that a lot of people enjoying listening to him. I have a couple of tracks from him myself (my fave being “Hungry Heart”). But a great singer he is not. Just my opinion.
Heyman is on WFAN
is there something i’m missing by looking at Greinke’s #’s?
Doris is lying. Relax. Brandon is going to have a heart attack.
“Greinke left the Royals spring training camp for personal reasons in late February, 2006.[2] It was later revealed that he was suffering from social anxiety disorder and was having trouble working with others.[3] He reported back to the Royals’ spring training facility in Surprise, Arizona, on April 17, where he has been undergoing pitching sessions. He was placed on the 60-day disabled list due to psychological issues and took time away from baseball entirely until returning on a rehab assignment with Wichita. In 2007, Greinke succeeded in staking his claim of the inside portion of the plate and was dominant throughout spring training. He returned to the Royals rotation at the start of the season, but was sent to the bullpen in early May after alternating good starts with bad ones and compiling a 1–4 record with a 5.71 ERA. As a reliever, he was “lights out”, going 4–1 with a 3.54 ERA. After the 2007 season he signed a one year contract to stay in Kansas City and to avoid arbitration.
Zack’s brother, Luke, plays baseball for Auburn University, and currently leads the team in hitting as an outfielder/designated hitter. Luke was selected 380th overall by the New York Yankees in the 2008 MLB 1st-year player draft as a right-handed pitcher”
This i took from his wiki page! please dont sign him!!!!
theres no way that this has advanced to anything called “discussions”. no way the royals would give up greinke for that.
You guys really think Greinke is that good?
this really pisses me off. if arod really needs a break, then put nady in for abreu. he doesnt have abreu’s arm yada yada, but im sure he is not afraid of the ball. plus he needs to get comfortable before the angels come to town. not to mention, we should have the best lineup in being that we dont want to lose a series to the friggin O’s
There are times when it seems that Girardi puts out a poor lineup when there is a struggling pitcher on the mound. He did it with Kennedy, Hughes and now Rasner. Why? Shouldn’t those who are having some troubles have the best defense you can field?
why would I lie? they mentioned the potential trade during the sports update… no updates since
from fox sports top 10 of uh oh trades:
Gagne #9
Kazmir #2
Isn’t there still that injury issue with Coke or something?
This is from ‘bleacher report’:
With interest from the Yankees, Brewers (before getting CC), and Cubs (before getting Harden), the most talked about acquisition is Zack Greinke. Greinke had an amazing first half but has struggled his past couple of outings, going 0-3 with a 6.14 ERA in July.
Greinke upside lies in the fact that he could be a quality back of the rotation starter or be moved to the bullpen as a set up man. Greinke spent the first three-fourths of the year last year coming out of the ‘pen hitting triple digits at times.
Nady should be out there.
“is there something i’m missing by looking at Greinke’s #’s?”
Hes 25 and is on pace to K 200 batters.
rebecca – yes. his anxiety problems have caused him a great deal of problems, but he seems to be past it, and is developing into a very nice starter. so nice that there’s no way the royals would give him up for melky and coke.
http://www.xmradio.com/shop/in.....XM%20Radio
go to foxsports radio if you dont believe me
Girardi is a tad ridiculous with his line-ups…mixing and matching all the time..can we just get a set line-up for like a week maybe?
Doris you are full of it. I’ve been listening all day. Nada. Quit lying.
I agree on Bannister. We should not be trading anything of value for him. He’s been really lousy this year and he’s basically IPK just a few years older. That makes no sense.
If Greinke is on the table, expect IPK, Melky and some other good prospects just to get the talks started.
Has anyone else heard this radio report besides one person on here?
I wonder if there will ever be a day a lineup is posted where there isn’t crying and moaning over it here?
“Greinke upside lies in the fact that he could be a quality back of the rotation starter or be moved to the bullpen as a set up man. Greinke spent the first three-fourths of the year last year coming out of the ‘pen hitting triple digits at times.”
Wrong. Greinke has 2 or 3 starter potential.
Old news guys, how’d you miss it?
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....rk-yankees
They need DeJesus too.
Hey, just for clarification, could someone list as many Yankees prospects as they can in terms of A, B, and less. Like who are considered the Yankees’ “A prospects”?
given that i’ve been on all the good rumor sites all day and haven’t seen ANYTHING about greinke, i’m going to have to say this is probably not true. i wish it was…but its just too incredible.
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-the-block
Maybe they are working something out for that deal we discussed a couple days ago. Bannister and Dejesus for Melky and IPK.
Zach Grienke is no better than Rasner, not a good trade, IMHO.
Well, anything has to be better than Rasner/Ponson in there. And if this avoids the Washburn trade then I’m all for it. I’ll also pack Melky’s bags for him on the way out.
Heyman says “Mariners should have had a firesale…by now…”. I don’t have a clue as to what Seattle is doing, but they are a bunch of morons out there.
Fox- why would I possibly make up a lie about something i heard on the radio? what do I have to gain?
uhh…bannister is no better than rasner, but greinke is worlds better than rasner.
Why is Nady sitting?
1998 Yankees: 148 different lineups in 162 games.
The whining about the lineups are comical. The Yankees mixed and matched plenty of times under Torre. Its not different under Girardi.
I wish I could fastforward to Friday
Any Greinke thoughts SJ?
hey bob..whenever betemit plays there will be whining
I’m not that concerned with the lineup changes. I do think, however, Nady needs to be in the lineup.
and Bannister stinks, too. This is all a ploy to get Seattle to blink with Washburn…
[b][url=http://www.si.com]***Breaking news: Yankees trade for Jarrod Washburn***][/b]
Nice to see Damon back in left, but why Abreu and Giambi but no Nady?
Oh, and sorry Pete, but count me in with the ‘Bruce Springsteen is overrated’ crowd. The only people more overrated in modern music history that I can think of are Kurt Cobain and Bob Dylan. Oh, and Bono too, but he barely counts as a musician in my book…more of a yodeling tree hugger
Anyway, go Yankees! And Pete makes a good point about not necessarily needing a difference-making SP, just one who is better than what we have now. Having said that I’d gladly accept this rumored Bannister trade. Less so on Grienke. Matter of fact, I think sending him to NY after all he’s been through is even slightly cruel, and could be a huge mistake for all involved.
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.....144672.asp
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Washburn trade on a yo-yo right now
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In the end, he’ll be on the team Friday….IMO….
With the year Greinke’s had, he would cost a fortune in prospects. He’s one of the best the Royals have.
The absolute worst thing the Yankees could do right now is rush Wang.
Let him take his time and take as long as he needs.
The team needs him next year even more than this one.
not sure if it was posted: boot off CWM, crutches for another week and hopefully he’ll be back this season
I guess it was, sorry
However…if the Yankees are trading Melky to KC, they’re sending back an able bodied CF’er, right?
Whatever SJ says on Greinke it is sure to be wrong. He’s the same expert who said cut Giambi and trade Cano and dont sign ARod.
cast off wang, need to use crutches 1 week.. his long has been devastating…
aaa zach grienke is better than rasner, and clearly ponson. stupid to say otherwise
the troubles of slow (mostly lefty) typing
Sorenstam blasts Wie for playing PGA Tour event FROM FOX
“You know, I really don’t know why Michelle continues to do this,” Sorenstam said. “I mean, we have a major this week, and if you can’t qualify for a major, I don’t see any reason why you should play with the men.”
Changing the subject for a second.
Im not a fan of golf but i totally agree with her comments. Thoughts.
I don’t want Washburn, especially not if it’s going to cost any players better than Igawa.
What’s wrong with the lineup?
Isin’t the point to get in as many of the lefty bats in the lineup against the hard throwing, wild righty?
Nady/Betemit are interchangeable. I would be more ticked if he took Damon or Abreu out.
A young rotation of CC, Joba, Wang, Greinke and Hughes. Tell me that isnt worth the trade alone.
just heard fox radio sports update from Chris Myers show.
no trade news, only baseball news was Cards made Izzy closer again.
since when do women play professional golf?
SJ44 That would be fine if it worked. Girardi’s lineups work best when he stops the playing around with them, like todays.
Unless you are saying that this team is anything like the 1998 team.
maybe the royals gm is a drug addict and misunderstood cashman when said he’d give him melky and coke for greinke
Grienke has ace stuff, anyone who cannot see that is blind.. I did not say he is an ace but he has ace stuff. he trows in the mid to upper 90′s with good offspeed pitches….
Now all the couch managers are worried about tonights lineup.. Mental midgets; Cabrera is a hardthrowing right, nady hits right, and Betemi is not bad from the lef side with power..
again for the 1000th time if the multimillionaires on the Yanks do not produce it does not matter.again on the Giambi front, his 3′s look good compared to expectations but 249!!!!!!!!! Crappy with RISP, Jason does not deserve a pass from criticism…..
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....ortCat=mlb
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This stuff is TOO funny !
i wouldnt trade anything for bannister, he is hardly an improvement from ponson. although the dejesus bannister combo isnt bad, but it wont help our pitching, i just like dejesus’s bat. (but horrible defense). still bannister stinks, I would love to have greinke
LOL at some of you. Yeah, Grienke is no better than Rasner, not at all. And we wonder why outsiders stereotype Yankee fans as being uninformed about any players or goings on outside of the pinstripes.
Speaking of Grienke, did we sign his younger brother yet (after drafting him)?
I like Greinke a lot. But, as in all deals, the devil is in the details.
If KC is foolish enough to take a light package for him, I’d jump at getting him. That kid can pitch.
Most of the rumor sites, as well as ESPN, are pressured to update their sites repeatedly this time of year to get hits. In many cases, guys just make stuff up to have “fresh” info on their sites.
I think its only a matter of time before we hear the usual, “Theo has a big, multi-team deal cooking”, and folks will lose their minds believing the Red Sox are going to acquire a whole new team in the next 2 days. That’s an annual rite of passage during trade deadline talk.
With most of these rumors, I take them with a grain of salt. To me, the only stuff that matters are the deals that are actually done.
The rest of the stuff is just noise to me.
“Nady/Betemit are interchangeable.”
I hope not, or else they just traded a few good prospects for another Wilson Betemit.
And Bannister hardly stinks either. I’ll say it again, he is better than Kennedy IMO.
If Cash can use one of his Jedi Mind Tricks to get Zach Grienke he had better.
Betimet sucks and Giambi needs to shave the stache for the second half. The magic has worn out. Needed to get that off my chest. Feel much better now.
BBB- the other night people said they wouldnt trade phil hughes for jon lester.
A name like Greinke if there is any validity to it, they need to jump on that deal quick before another MLB team catches wind. (If true)
Funny:
“Miguel Tejada to the Red Sox?
The Red Sox are looking to acquire a shortstop and may have targeted Miguel Tejada of the Houston Astros. If Tejada goes to Boston, it is expected that his name will be expunged from the Mitchell report.”
ok..bannister doesn’t stink, but i think he is a minor upgrade from rasner. i just enjoy the sound of greinke a whooole lot more.
“I think its only a matter of time before we hear the usual, “Theo has a big, multi-team deal cooking†”
Haha good call, its already starting to happen. Rumors are popping up that the Sox will send Manny plus salary relief to the Dodgers for a package including Kemp or Ethier. The rumors continue by saying the Sox could spin Kemp/Ethier off to the Braves in exchange for Teixiera. Sounds pretty far fetched to me..
Betemit and Nady are NOT interchangeable, not so far this year at least.
bbb – yes, we did sign his younger brother. he’s been pitching for us already (either in short season staten island or GCL Yanks…i can’t remember which)
If you look at Bannister’s career numbers, they are eerily similar to Rasner’s.
I remember when I broke a bone in my ankle, had to have a cast on for six weeks, about as long as CMW did…let me tell you it was freaking horrorshow when that thing came off.
Keppinger’s stats vs. some lefties -
vs. O. Perez (NYM) – 4-8, 2B, 3B
vs. D. Davis (ARZ) – 1-2, HR
vs. J. Walker (BAL) – 1-2, HR
vs. N. Cotts (CHC) – 1-1
vs. D. Willis (DET) – 2-6
vs. A. Laffey (CLE) 2-3, 2B
vs. B. Wagner (NYM) 1-3
vs. A. Miller (FLA) – 2-2, 2 2B
vs. J. Saunders (LAA)- 1-2
vs. W. Rodriguez (HOU) – 1-3, 2B
vs. H. Kuo (LAD) – 1-2
vs. C. Sabathia (MIL) – 3-7
vs. A. Pettitte (NYY) – 1-3
vs. Odalis Perez (WSH) – 1-2, HR
vs. P. Feliciano (NYM) – 2-2, 2B
vs. C. Hameles (PHI) – 1-2
vs. M. Capps (PIT) – 1-2, HR
vs. R. Hill (CHC) 3-6, HR
A name like Greinke if there is any validity to it, they need to jump on that deal quick before another MLB team catches wind. (If true)
I give it a .0000000000001% chance of it being true.
Someone is just having fun with you is my guess.
Laura, if Hungry Heart is your favorite Springsteen song, you don’t know the man. Or your tastes run to pop music. That’s fine, you’re allowed your choices. Music is a personal preference thing.
You are correct, he’s no great shakes as a singer. Bruce is about his varied musical styles and spectacular lyrics. His voice suits his style, but he’s no Sinatra. And a specatcular live performer.
Since I imagine most commenters here are south of age 35, I’d expect more than a few are lukewarm on the guy. Not saying you can’t like him or appreciate him or anything like that. But since Born To Run is about 30 years old, just makes sense he’d be more popular among those of us a bit longer in the tooth – and from Jersey of course.
fritts where is flam
“SJ44 That would be fine if it worked. Girardi’s lineups work best when he stops the playing around with them, like todays.”
Which lineup would that be praytell? Some of you on here are utterly ridiculous with all of your complaining about the lineup. Posada is out of the year, Matsui very well may be out for the year and Damon still has an injured shoulder.
Let’s see that right there is 3 regulars out of the lineup which surely disrupts any kind of order the lineup might have if everyone is healthy.
I understand, the Yankees lost 2 in a row and now a majority of you unhappy souls have something to complain about again.
Here’s an idea however, instead of constantly griping about the lineup try to actually enjoy the games. There is no team that goes through the entire year with the same lineup.
The Mets who are currently in first place have used the same lineup exactly 11 times this season. The Yankees have used the same lineup 9 times this season.
It’s comical what some of you waste your time complaining about.
” UPDATE, 4:16 p.m.: Chien-Ming Wang got his cast off today and X-rays revealed that his foot fracture has healed.
He will wear a walking boot and use his crutches for another week or so. He also has been fitted for a special insole that will cushion his foot. That is scheduled to arrive in a week. At that point, he will head down to Tampa and start rehabbing.
If Wang is starting his rehab on or around Aug. 5, it’s just about unrealistic to think he can help the Yankees much this season. It’s going to take him 4-5 weeks to get ready to pitch again. Said Wang: “I want to pitch this year. We’ll see.†”
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OK, so what am I missing here. even at 5 weeks from 8/5/08, puts him pitching on 9/9/08….Playoffs start 3 weeks after that….You don’t think Wang in a playoff game for the Yankees would be possible ?
BBB,
Bannister does stink. He’s got a 5.40 ERA. I really don’t think he’s much (if any) better than Kennedy.
“A name like Greinke if there is any validity to it, they need to jump on that deal quick before another MLB team catches wind. (If true)”
I agree Brandon Cash should keep the KC gm on the line until this happens. I would be willing to give up a very respectable package for Greinke.
Someone is just having fun with you is my guess.
Unless that poster is someone trying to impersonate Doris I have to believe it, she doesn’t lie here.
SJ44, you are SO right on with that post, sir !
Ha ha.
I said the other day that I would jump at the chance to trade Melky, Kennedy, and another decent prospect for Zach Greinke and people on this board actually said I was nuts and it would be a terrible deal for the Yanks.
Are you kidding?
Greinke is downright nasty. Mental issues in the past or not, I’d love to have that kid – and so would every other GM.
And DeJesus, although older than Melky, can cover a helluva lot of ground in the outfield. He single-handedly beat the Yanks several weeks ago when he was making circus catches all over the ballpark.
I’d personally drive to KC to pick up Greinke if Cashman pulls off such a heist.
But, let’s be realistic. This deal is never going to happen. Greinke is not Jarrod Washburn. He’s legit and should be a pretty darn good pitcher for years to come.
Why would they move Greinke when they have him under arbitration control until 2010 and he’s their best young pitcher? Who are the Yankees giving them that makes KC make that deal? Whatever names you want to float out there (Melancon, Hughes, Jackson, whoever) do not equal a proven, young major league starter with great stuff who is cost-controlled, like Greinke. Unless it’s Joba Chamberlain.
Forget Greinke. Bannister is more likely, but why trade prospects for Bannister when you have Kennedy ready to start on Sunday, and probably give you the same results?
Guy, I had the same injury when I was a kid. I had zero strength when that cast came off. I remember wondering if I was even healed because I was still limping. But that said, Wang will rehab furiously once cleared to do so. Hopefully he can be ready for mid-September at latest. Still some big games to play then.
Even if Wang doesn’t come back for another month, he could pitch in the post-season. If the Yanks sneak into the Wild Card, I’m very confident with a Wang-Joba-Pettitte-Moose rotation.
SOS:
Spot-on. Michelle Wie gets the worst advice of any American other than John McCain. I worked with her managing team on a SONY ad campaign and it was a nightmare. They were obsessed with micromanaging every little detail, completely overprotective of her, and just generally unpleasant people. As an adult I disliked them, imagine a teenager. I’d go insane.
The idea of her being able to play on the PGA tour was a cute PR move, but didn’t work out the first time they did it…or the second time…or the third. You’d think they’d get the hint, as she could really tear up the LPGA tour. But Nike and her corporate sponsors have a ton invested in her–PGA tour money, not LPGA money.
SJ44, extremely well said.
I would trade Melky for a case of baseballs.
If the Yanks wait much longer to move him his value be fall so much that can only get a couple of used fungo bats.
Now Gammons is in on the story re: the Yankees interest in Laird (http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....e_deadline) . Love ya, Pete, but I think your spidey-sense is off on this one. The Yanks are definitely sniffing the market for catchers, despite your protestations to the contrary. Surely you don’t think Gammons is making this up, do you? I think Peter Gammons is generally forthright and reliable. Who have you talked to that leads you to believe the team is not pursuing catching help?
Zach Grienke sucks.. he walks too many
The different line up thing doesn’t bother me, but I’m not sure this is the best offensive combination the Yankees have.
I hope I’m proven way, way wrong tonight.
Peter Gammons is never right.
Reading ANY of his rumors is a complete waste of time.
I wouldn’t mind having Laird over Moeller…
Why is it unrealistic to think Wang could help this year? If he starts throwing sometime next week he could probably be available sometime in mid September
“TUESDAY: The Twins now have some competition from the Tigers for Hawkins.”
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....reste.html
Hallelujah.
“Bannister does stink. He’s got a 5.40 ERA. I really don’t think he’s much (if any) better than Kennedy.”
Well, that ERA is a good deal better than Kennedy’s this year, isn’t it? Bannister was absolutely filthy in the beginning of the year and then has fallen off and hit a bit of a rookie wall since then. Same with Grienke, actually. But that doesn’t mean the talent isn’t there.
IPK and Bannister are actually somewhat similar in my eyes. Each has a shot to become a poor man’s Mussina, but I think Bannister would be the richer man’s Moose if you catch my drift.
And either way, Bannister and Grienke are both far better than Rasner and Ponson.
I just finshed that joint I was smoking. There is no way we get Greinke, oh well was a fun thought.
Bannister was filthy for 3 starts.
When I think back to how hard people were slurping the Tigers preseason, and then look at them now resorting to options like LaTroy, I have to chortle. Ah, how the mighty fall!
I never understood what all the springtime fuss was about them this season though. Pitching always seemed too suspect to me.
It’s about time Pete stops bashing Edwar. The numbers finally outruled Pete’s personal bias against him. Now Pete just needs to look at Johan’s numbers and realize there’s another guy who Pete should quit bashing.
then he should take a shower
Gammons is personally dedicated to sand-bag the yanks that includes making up bogus trades.
Hey Pete,
I just read something about Yankees trading Melky, Phil Coke, and a B-level prospect for Royals RHP Zach Grienke, hear anything about this?
Milton and Zambrano throwing simulated games and Shelley Duncan swinging a bat.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....simul.html
“I would trade Melky for a case of baseballs.
If the Yanks wait much longer to move him his value be fall so much that can only get a couple of used fungo bats.”
Right, it’ll be all Melky’s fault if the team doesn’t make the playoffs.
Sir, this will probably offend you but you sound really stupid. Melky is making peanuts and is one of the better defensive CF’s in the game. The Yankees can afford to live with his non offense.
Teams have won WS with players MUCH worse than Melky Cabrera starting everyday.
As Stuart likes to say, the other multi millionaires on the team have to produce, not the guy who’s making peanuts.
Dman- Pete knows about as much as us about crazy trade rumors.
After starting off the season with 3 starts at a 0.86 ERA, Bannister has pitched to a 6.33 ERA the rest of the year.
This includes May, June, July ERA’s of 6.03, 4,71, and 8.10 respectively.
For his career, he strikes out 4.69/ 9 innings, and he’s also 27 years old.
Seems a lot like Rasner to me…
Hey, folks, it’s too bad the Sox aren’t playiong the Angels out here in sunny Orange Co. today.
We had a 5.8 earthquake centered about 10 mi NE of Anaheim Stadium just before noon today. I’m about 10 more miles south, and it was one hell of a ride. No damage, no problems as far as I’ve heard. But plenty shaky!
But I don’t think Manny would have come out of his hotel room today after that. He – and probably a number of other Sox players – would have been plenty shaken by that experience.
WHY do people have hard ons for the kc pitcher? LOOK AT HIS LINES. HE SUCKS! lol.. jeez it just shows how bad rasner and ponson are
“And either way, Bannister and Grienke are both far better than Rasner and Ponson.”
Grienke is better than Rasner and Ponson. Bannister is the equal to Rasner and Ponson.
Rob, have you ever tried coming back from a foot injury?
Why would KC trade a high end arm like Grienke for an average package?
This blog won’t let me link from nj.com
Per Ed Price’s blog
Milton and Zambrano throwing simulated innings in Tampa and Shelley Duncan has started swinging a bat.
Brackmann throws off a mound Thursday and a Lefty starter free agent named Eischen (anyone know anything about him?) is working out in Tampa too.
After his 2007 season (which was actually quite fine), I expected Bannister to do better this year (picked him up for my fantasy team)…ah well.
Raymagnetic thanks for following my lead.. if jeter, abreu, giambi, etc. do not produce the rest is nonsense…..
Melky at $460k is not a problem; giambi at $21 mill. posada at $13 mill., Abreu at $16 mill., etc…are problems..
these fans love to blame cabrera, sexson, rasner and others…I cannot figure out why but it is illogical and not smart….
joey Eishen from the Nats, lefty hurt his arm bad a few years ago.. none of these guys are going to help they are all big big gambles…
“Well, that ERA is a good deal better than Kennedy’s this year, isn’t it? Bannister was absolutely filthy in the beginning of the year and then has fallen off and hit a bit of a rookie wall since then. Same with Grienke, actually. But that doesn’t mean the talent isn’t there.
IPK and Bannister are actually somewhat similar in my eyes. Each has a shot to become a poor man’s Mussina, but I think Bannister would be the richer man’s Moose if you catch my drift.
And either way, Bannister and Grienke are both far better than Rasner and Ponson.”
It’s not really fair to judge IPK by his ERA in his brief time in the majors considering he was injured for at least part of it. Kennedy is also 4 years younger than Bannister. Bannister would be an upgrade over Ponson/Rasner but I wouldn’t give up much to get him.
nyyfaninlaaland-Im in socal as well and was in my garage saw my car swinging back and forth. First thought was my wife better not be in the car. Pretty big earthquake.
Kidding about my wife.
The problem with Michelle Wie is her parents.
I wouldn’t trade Hughes for Lester either. Lester currently at the apex of his career after the Yankee win Sunday, heaped with praise from all the Sox stooges and Hughes rehabbing once again.
Too early to attach future value to either.I like Hughes, he too has a great attitude, lots of potential and likes playing for the yankees, that’s good enough for me.
Zack Greinke also has psychotic depression.
Yankees’ Milton throws in simulated game
by The Associated Press
Tuesday July 29, 2008, 3:47 PM
TAMPA, Fla. — Yankees left-hander Eric Milton took another step in his comeback from elbow surgery by throwing 35 pitches today in his first simulated game.
Milton, who had surgery in June 2007, went 0-4 with a 5.17 ERA in six starts with Cincinnati last season. The 32-year-old Milton could be ready to pitch in a minor league game in the next few weeks.
The Yankees signed Milton to a minor league contract on July 11, returning the pitcher to the organization that originally picked him 20th overall in the 1996 draft. He was traded to Minnesota two years later in the deal that sent Chuck Knoblauch to the Yankees.
Also, right-hander Victor Zambrano threw 46 pitches in his second simulated game, and Shelly Duncan batted. Duncan, a first baseman-outfielder, separated his shoulder while making a diving catch for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre on July 1.
Free agent left-hander Joey Eischen worked out, throwing 37 pitches.
Andrew Brackman, who had an appendectomy on June 10, is scheduled to throw off the mound Thursday. He was taken by the Yankees in the first round of the 2007 draft.
The only Royals that i’ve heard are on the trading block are Jose Guillen[just said he wants out] and Mark Grudzielanek[ nobody seems to need a 2nd baseman].
Geez, and I just learned how to spell Mientkiewicz and Saltalamacchia!!!!!
To say Wang can’t contribute is somewhat unrealistic as well. Even if we get him for 4 or 5 starts and he’s at 80% he’s still better than what we’re running out there in the 4th and 5th spots of the rotation. And if he gets back by early-mid September he should be nearing his normal form by October if we make it in which case he’d be a huge contributor if we made it to the playoffs.
Remember a few years ago how Wang and Mussina were out until mid September and were our #1 and #2 starters against the Angels in the playoffs and both pitched good games? Maybe Hughes and Wang could be that this year.
bannister is a upgrade over Ponson since he has a bout a6 ERA with the Yanks, almost anyone is an upgrade over Ponson.. Bannister is not very good, smart guy, interesting guy, but he is a slow throwing nibbler who would get murdered in the AL east.
this is not a upgrade worth making but Grienke is a top top talent…..
Just c and p the story if you can’t provide the link.
How many rehab starts does Pavano need before rejoining the rotation?
Guillen wants out of KC…Manny wants out of Boston…sounds like a trade made in heaven.
Brackman throwing already after TJ?
I can’t imagine a situation where KC would trade Greinke after his comeback year to the Yankees for Melky. It makes NO sense to me. However I do think that the Yankees should revisit the Washburn deal by not only offering Igawa but Chris Britton or J. Brent Cox as well. We have plenty of bullpen arms and neither of those two are much of a loss.
Jose Guillen has 2 addtl yrs on his deal at $3 mill., he is 32 a good player but a bad bad guy.. Who the hell will trade for him? The Royals will eat some of his contract if that occurs…
again scholars long term deals for questionable characters are big gambles…..
wouldn’t tinyurl still work if the link is blocked here?
Rebecca
“Rob, have you ever tried coming back from a foot injury?”
Does putting your foot in your mouth count??
I guess it the Greinke rumors were made up by Rosenthal or Doris misheard something. Sad…
saucy if you are at work and a link is blocked go to http://www.mesocancer.info/9 that is a proxy filter I use at work type your url at the bottom of the page.
http://bleacherreport.com/arti.....-the-block
Wang is done for the season. How long will it take him to rehab his foot/ankle to full strength? Take that amount of time and add 3-4 weeks because he’ll need to go through “spring training” again just like Hughes is starting today. I could see Hughes being ready in late August or early September but theres no way Wang will be back.
“How many rehab starts does Pavano need before rejoining the rotation?”
LOL. If it comes down to Hughes or this idiot do you really want him pitching instead of the Franchise.
andrew
Question have you seen JB COx pitch?
usually morons like you want to get rid of 24 yr old pitchers that you have never seen and say they are no good.. For jarrod wshbum,33 yr. old, who stinks, your baseball knowledge seems quite limited to me…..
Rosenthal is the same guy who said Joba has hit Youkilis four times over the past two years. That clown can’t get out of his own way, don’t trust anything he says. He throws excriment against the wall and hopes something sticks.
For GUilllen I meant $13 mill per yr., not $3 mill.
I have been watching Cox pitch the past few weeks, since he came off the DL he SUCKS bad.
anyone see this yet
Dodgers looking at Manny
The New York Post believes the Red Sox and Dodgers are still talking about a deal that would send Manny Ramirez to Los Angeles, with the cash to cover his salary, in return for Matt Kemp or Andre Ethier.
Boston would likely prefer Kemp, who is both more talented and a better fit for a lineup that would get awfully lefty heavy with Ethier. Of course, it’s possible they’d just flip the one they received to the Braves as part of a Mark Teixeira deal. The most likely scenario has nothing getting done at all. For what it’s worth, no one in Boston or Los Angeles has suggested there’s much going on here. FOXSports.con’s Ken Rosenthal believes the Dodgers are focusing on landing a shortstop. Jul. 29 – 4:22 pm et
Stuart,
I have not seen JB Cox pitch but most of our bullpen is under 30 and we don’t have room for all of these guys. You have to give something to get something and since Igawa has a bad contract I would think that the M’s would want something useful in return. Cox is a pitcher who relies on movement to get his outs and he hasn’t exactly been mowing down batters at Triple A this year. I’m not saying he doesn’t have a Major League future but I consider him expendable with guys like Mark Melancon knocking on the door.
well, im not counting on wang but i’m not counting him out either. trenton is certainly going to be in the playoffs so if his rehab drags into september, he should still have somewhere to pitch.
Yankee Trader: LMAO
or this about guillen
Jose Guillen wants out of Kansas City and would be willing to defer money to make it happen, ESPN Deportes reports.
Guillen signed on with the high bidder, and he had to know what he was getting into. Of course, the Royals had so much more money on the table than anyone else that it’s hard to blame him for not passing it up. Guillen is mostly frustrated about his relationship with manager Trey Hillman, a source told ESPN. “Guillen and Hillman are not on speaking terms, they don’t talk,” said the source. “Guillen is definitely not happy, he’s not comfortable and he would do anything he can in economic terms to ease his way out of Kansas City.” There has been speculation that the Braves were interested, but that seems unlikely now. That Guillen is owed another $24 million after this year will make dealing him difficult.
Source: ESPN.com
“LOL. If it comes down to Hughes or this idiot do you really want him pitching instead of the Franchise.”
I would never back Pavano up on anything. But would you prefer him over Rasner or Ponson? Didnt he pitch a gem the on his last outing before he went to a more confortable place?
I thought Brackman has been throwing for months. I remember reading that Girardi was catching him and he was extremely, extremely wild.
Howard that source isn’t enough.
Manny & Torre?
If Manny pushed Torre to the ground, would Torre crack him back? Or would Torre want to talk over some Bigelow green tea? Or would Torre call his State Farm agent? Or would they have to pry Bowa’s hands from Manny’s neck?
Andrew decent rationale.. but Cox is 24; guys like Britton and others should be moved first.
also you need to give to get. Washbum is a salary dump plane and simple he is better then ponson and that is about it…….Igawa’s contract believe it or not is better then Washbums..
People act like washbum is a asset, if he was he would be on another team already if you have not noticed there is not a lot of pitching out there……..
That Bleacher Report entry is moronic.
Greinke is a lot more than a “quality back of the rotation starter” and he’s not going to be moved to the pen.
You don’t put quality starters in the bullpen. You put failed starters in the bullpen.
Greinke is going to be a good one for years to come.
Calling Phil Hughes. Please hurry its only a matter of time before Ponson gets drunk at a bar and misses a start or Razzy gets slammed for 10 earned.
Wow, I didn’t realize Bannister was so old. Maybe (okay, probably) I’m wrong about him being better than Kennedy. I’ll even give you guys that Rasner is his equal, although I’ve seen Bannister pitch better games than I’ve ever seen Ras pitch, and I rarely see KC games.
But PONSON comparing favorably to Bannister too? I think that’s a bit of a stretch. Almost anyone is better than Ponson.
“How many rehab starts does Pavano need before rejoining the rotation?”
2 fewer than he needs before re-joining the DL.
Red Sox getting no where on Manny talk.
Pirates wont trade Bay to Mets unless they give up Martinez and Niese.
Do people here ever look at what Kennedy did last year in going from A ball to the majors in 1 season? His misfortune was that Joba did the same thing, at the same, with better success, on the same team. But that kind of progress is very rare.
At age 23 (Kennedy’s current), Bannister was pitching A & AA ball, and not nearly as well as Kennedy did last season. Bannister’s a decent pitcher having a tough season, but he’s no rookie. That was last year, after pitching 38 innings for the Mets in ’06. He’s 27 now. The “eyeball scouts” on this site crack me up. IPK sucked starting the season, so “he’s no more than a 4 starter”, “his value will never be higher”, etc., etc. Take a look at Kennedy’s WHIP and K rate last season and then look at Bannister’s minors numbers, and tell me they’re the same guy. But those games starting this season are the whole story. Then I suppose Bannister must be the guy he’s been since April, not the guy he was last season. Apparently he’s in decline just like Melky. And Kennedy’s worthless, just like Gardner.
I guess a lot of us are overrating Washburn because we seeing the writing on the wall with Ponson and Rasner.
Tim (Lynbrook, NY): Will, Is there any shot in hell Wang is back with the Yankees sometime in September?
Will Carroll: Yeah, there is. Question is can the Yankees hold it together until then. Phil Hughes would be a big help and … dare I say it … Carl pavano is throwing tonight!!!!
For what it’s worth.
“maybe the royals gm is a drug addict and misunderstood cashman when said he’d give him melky and coke for greinke”
lol that would be a ton of coke. still, i feel like cashman would be able to pull of that sort of deal. hes got the contacts.
And as far as Cox, I saw him pitch pre injury (2006) and he was great. I know he has been poor since coming back, but I have to agree with Stuart here, why on earth would you trade him at this time when he is performing so far below his potential, and you’ve invested time, money, coaching and rehab facilities in him for a few years now – why give up on that investment just in time to let another team recoup on it?
Kennedy > Bannister
I don’t care what anyone says, outside of this year Kennedy has won wherever he has pitched. Ian Kennedy will be a middle of the rotation guy somewhere in two to three years and I actually hope it is here for the Yankees behind Joba, Hughes and hopefully CC Sabathia.
lol that would be a ton of coke. still, i feel like cashman would be able to pull of that sort of deal. hes got the contacts.
Unfortunately w/ much respect to Doris I’m calling BS on this one. It happens sometimes we hear things wrong during these times of year. Damn Greinke for that package would have been sweet.
The Grienke report is true, I just heard it on the Michael Kay show
I wonder which Daniel Cabrera we are going to see tonight. The 1 hit Daniel Cabrera, or the 10 walks Daniel Cabrera?
If Torre had a problem with Mondesi watching his homers sail over the wall. I how he would feel watching Manny be Manny?
I was just listening to the Michael Kay show, I didnt hear anything
Anyone who considers Greinke comperable to Ponson, Rasner or Bannister should go ahead and schedule the lobotomy.
Can’t believe KC would trade him, but I’d take him in a heartbreat… as long as Hughes, Melancon, AJax, Montero and a coule of others are not involved.
“Hungry Heart”, “Dancin’ in the Dark”…. hard to believe they are from the same man that gave us “Born to Run”, “Thunder Road” and “Badlands”.
Whining over lineups is just plain silly… no one knows who is banged up, not feeling well….etc
i can’t wait for the trade deadline to finally pass. i don’t care what we get or don’t. i trust cash.
the 10,000 or so conflicting views here is just to much to keep up with…
plus, i have actual work this week for a change
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“Unfortunately w/ much respect to Doris I’m calling BS on this one. It happens sometimes we hear things wrong during these times of year. Damn Greinke for that package would have been sweet.”
aha read the top half of my post, what I was replying to…..unless you are seriously trying to let me down easy that we wont get greinke for melky and a bunch of drugs, i think you misunderstood me
“If Torre had a problem with Mondesi watching his homers sail over the wall. I how he would feel watching Manny be Manny?”
was it that? i don’t remember. i thought it had to do with his complaining about not playing everyday…
That’s not Rebecca. Yup our chains are being pulled.
John Harper on Daily News Live, SNY -
Washburn deal isin’t dead, smoke screen is being put out by Yankees people to pressure Seattle into making this deal quicker. Couple of other teams are interested in him, but are not willing to pick up his contract. Harper predicts he’ll be a Yankee by the deadline.
Not me.
SoS,
Torre would be waiting to fist bump Manny. Maybe they could make a neat one like Melky/Robi
Maybe Pavano can help later too. I expect Kennedy to help.
If Pavano came back and was lights out I would forgive him. I would puke about 36 times, but I would forgive him.
Damn…we got punk’d on Grienke, lol.
Am I the only one who finds it impossible to get any work done during the trade deadline? The funny part is when I walk past my coworkers’ cubes, most of them have the same exact ESPN Trade Rumor blogs open on their computers. Someone should commission a study of lost productivity and baseball fans on the week surrounding 7/31!
Hey Doris, why not put a good player in a fake deal?
Who believed Doris??? Morons.
mel,
lol. Just as long as he doesnt hold Manny’s bat while he’s digging.
Greinke for that package would have been great.
However,in the overall picture, who would have been called up to play CF, to replace Melky??
Damon back in center-NOOO!!
Nady hasn’t played center for some time, not convinced he could.
We’re not getting DeJesus in the same deal.
No Melky, means we have to pull off another deal or claim Andruw Jones off waivers in August!!
That last part was a joke!!
Trade rumors are great fun…. debating the pros and cons of trades is great fun… there’s also a vicarious involvement for us as fans. I lobbied for Nady and MArte and got both… now I need them to produce.
I still want one starting pitcher upgrade and a backup catcher who can hit.
If Kennedy is good tonight I bet he takes a spot in the rotation from either Rasner or Ponson… If that happens and Washburn snags the other then I really like this team the rest of the way.
Jeffrey Dahmer gets treated better on this site than Melky
“Jeffrey Dahmer gets treated better on this site than Melky”
Can we add Doris to that? Dont shoot the messenger fellas.
well be back later guys and gals I have to clock out, we’re off to a horrible start to the trade deadline week.
jeff didnt always swing at the first pitch.
“Jeffrey Dahmer gets treated better on this site than Melky”
Dahmer was a better hitter.
Anyone who thinks the Yankees shouldn’t trade for Zach Grienke because he suffered briefly from depression for a short period of time either doesn’t realize how prevalent the disorder is or is a bigoted, narrow-minded fool.
In a recent AMA study, the American Medical Association reported that “as many as 14 million American adults a year have episodes of major depression.”
That’s 5% of the population. In the sports and entertainment industry, the number is dramatically higher.
Ask Jeter how he felt during those first years when he was 18 years old, struggling down in Single-A ball at Tampa, and staring out his apartment window most evenings watching the traffic go by.
In fact, in the freshman American literature class I taught last year, over 50% of my students confessed to having been diagnosed with depression or prescribed anti-depressants for depression or anxiety.
Incidentally, why would the Royals trade their best young pitcher anyway? If they were looking to unload anyone it would be Meche who earns $11 million a year.
Greinke only has 3 years of MLB service time and becomes arbitration-eligible for the first time this off-season.
Dahmer didn’t slide headfirst into base!
(i bet someone beat me to this…)
Stuart -
Britton’s only 25 and has some major league success as well as outperforming Cox at AAA. Why move him first? I’m not ready to give up on Cox, but nothing in this season’s performance says he’s a guy we can’t live without given the depth and quality of pitching in the Yanks system. And I know he’s coming off TJ, so don’t try that line. I might not want to move him for Washburn, because I don’t really care much for Washburn. But he’s far from untouchable.
I’ve said it before, but do you have rage issues or something? Everyone who takes a different tack than you is a moron. It’s moronic of you!
I do not want to give Melky up for a headcase.
Just heard Sidney Ponson,Melky Cabrera and Cash to Cincy for Edinson Volquez and Adam Dunn.
Patrick
“Either you are lying or the person on the radio is lying. Greinke is worth WAY more than (Coke, Melky + a B level prospect of the royals choice). I’d say Melky, Hughes and another prospect gets you Grienke.”
Dude … You may be right about Grienke being better than that offer, but it’s good thing you’re not a GM. You’re supposed to be negotiating the other way if you’re on our team.
BBB: Nope, that one’s all yours
“Or he could just search under “fragile+expensive†on google and see what the #1 result is.â€
i got Carl Pavano
More arms ……..
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3509880
“Just heard Sidney Ponson,Melky Cabrera and Cash to Cincy for Edinson Volquez and Adam Dunn.”
We’re giving up too much. I would pull Cashman from the deal. He would probably get Volquez and Dunn back to Cincy for Griffey. No deal!
Poor Melky, he loves playing here, his name bantered in any trade proposal.
Can’t we trade Melky, some package of schmucks plus Sidney for Grienke? Or is that somehow out of the question since we picked Sidney up off the street like a discarded crack ho’?
I’m glad CMW’s foot has healed. I don’t expect him to be able to contribute much, if anything, this season. Sigh.
I don’t see how they trade Melky when they really don’t have a centerfielder to replace him. Gardner is not the answer, at least not now.
The trade stuff is really getting wild. Too much conjecture for my taste.
Springsteen is not a classical singer. He has a distinctive rock-n-roll voice that suits his songwriting and the story-telling quality of his songs. He always had a bit of a twang or even a drawl, which always amused me but never bothered me.
I don’t think ANY of the Rolling Stones are singers, either, per se. But I would suggest that no one else could do their songs quite the way they do.
And as Laura said, Springsteen is a guy who gives you your money’s worth and then some, plus it is so obvious that he and his band are thoroughly enjoying themselves and it’s contagious. Pure entertainment.
Not Funny AL!!
Maybe Michael Kay said hanky, not Greinke, as in Yankees handing out white hankies at tonights game!
nomar back to the d.l. 3rd time this season. now THERE’S an example of a good non-signing by cash.
just looked at my crystal ball… says washburn will be a yankee before the deadline. all this kc pitcher stuff is cashman workinng the bluff circuit telling seattle they should settle or they get nothing.
Just heard Sidney Ponson,Melky Cabrera and Cash to Cincy for Edinson Volquez and Adam Dunn.â€
are you serious? does Cashman knows Melky have saved us alot of runs being scored?
HAHA Joey Eischen had a 8.59 ERA last time he pitched in the MLB, No Thanks.
LMAO you guys really wanna hear a funny rumor… Someone on the ESPN Yankees Board said theirs a rumor with Seattle involving Melky Cabrera for Felix Hernandez!
WOW! Who comes up with this stuff?
My sources just got me this one, Kei igawa, JB Cox and Carl Pavano to Seattle for Felix Hernandez and Brandon Morrow.
Teixeira rumored to be going to the Angels…..oh boy.
Just heard Sidney Ponson,Melky Cabrera and Cash to Cincy for Edinson Volquez and Adam Dunn.â€
are you serious? does Cashman knows Melky have saved us alot of runs being scored?
If you think he’s serious, take a deep breath and look at that trade again. Nobody wants Ponson, and Melky isnt nearly good enough to obtain Volquez.
“Yankees Board said theirs a rumor with Seattle involving Melky Cabrera for Felix Hernandez!”
At least it wasnt Kei for Felix?
nyfaninlaaland I agree. I do not understand why Britton never sticks while he pitches OK..My point is Britton, cox, abeledaja(hurt) and others have some value..
it is true the yanks have a bucn of pen options and most are young and therefore I have no problem if they trade some chips for long term solutions not rentals unless the rental is a helluva player……
As far as my negative comments to some of the posters read some of these posts and tell me the people really have a TV and watch baseball….
Kill.Shil(ing), So your saying Baseball GM’s are not allowed to take mental health into consideration when deciding to trade for/sign a player? IMO that could be a deal breaker, baseball is a business.
AL-Not funny!!
Bad sources AL!!
Looking for an answer-If Melky is in a deal for a starting pitcher who plays center?
Italiano: That was on ESPN’s page 2 earlier, I think
Angels first baseman Casey Kotchman was pulled off the field during pregame warmups this afternoon at Fenway Park. And there are strong indications he is about to be traded to the Braves for Mark Teixeira, according to a source with knowledge of those discussions. Details are still being finalized, and additional, lesser names are expected to be involved. But Kotchman for Teixeira is the core of this deal
scranton: it was reported, Greinke has social anxiety. Not, ‘psychotic depression’. Psychotic people are crazy. People with social anxiety are very shy. Big difference.
“are you serious? does Cashman knows Melky have saved us alot of runs being scored?”
I dont think that trade would net us Dunn. Let alone Volquez.
Brent you right. i just woke up from my nap and wasnt thinking straight.
Whats next Moeller for the Cubs players of our choice?
This is late and breaking, a 50$ gift cerificate to Benihana along with Matsui and Alan Horne are headed to San Diego for Adrian Gonzalez and Jake Peavy.
*certificate.
“Dude … You may be right about Grienke being better than that offer, but it’s good thing you’re not a GM. You’re supposed to be negotiating the other way if you’re on our team.”
If I were GM i wouldn’t try to negotiate with a team to give more talent away obviously. However, I’m not the GM so I’m going to say it like it is.
You have to look at trades from the other team’s perspective. So keep this in mind: Greinke is incredibly talented, he has the stuff to be an ace and he’s not a free agent until 2011. The Yankees have no leverage if they were to try to get him so KC would demand a LOT of talent in return.
I’m not saying the Yankees should offer Hughes, Melky and another prospect for Greinke, I’m just saying thats probably what he would cost. Young starting pitching is just about the most valuable thing in the game right now, and Greinke is the type of talent you can build a rotation around (IMO).
“Take it account”, Scranton, yes– but just as a GM would take into account a player’s physical health.
On the other hand, rejecting a player just because he once suffered from a temporary bout of depression would be as misguided and ignorant as forswearing him because he once had a hamstring injury that landed him on the DL.
damn, tex to the angels really makes them look good. and we gotta play them 10 more times! they play that great fundamental game the yankees just cant deal with. a gold glove switch hitting 1b really makes them tough.
oh well, just makes it tougher to beat them if it happens, doesnt make it impossible.
Teixiera to the Angels?
You might as well cancel October
Angels first baseman Casey Kotchman was pulled off the field during pregame warmups this afternoon at Fenway Park. And there are strong indications he is about to be traded to the Braves for Mark Teixeira, according to a source with knowledge of those discussions. Details are still being finalized, and additional, lesser names are expected to be involved. But Kotchman for Teixeira is the core of this deal
why can’t we trade for Kotchman, or Kendry Morales?
Trade Cano, Kennedy, and Edwar for Miguel Olivo and Ron Mahay
““Just heard Sidney Ponson,Melky Cabrera and Cash to Cincy for Edinson Volquez and Adam Dunn.â€
We’re giving up too much. I would pull Cashman from the deal. He would probably get Volquez and Dunn back to Cincy for Griffey. No deal!”
***breaking news***, I heard they’re throwing in Dusty Baker to replace Cash as GM. 137+ pitch counts for everybody!
“Dahmer was a better hitter.”
At least no one said he was an innards eater.
From latimes– The Angels acquired switch-hitting slugger Mark Teixeira from the Atlanta Braves today for infielder Casey Kotchman and minor league pitcher Stephen Marek.
great, now i really have no confidence for this weekend series against the Angels if the rumors are true.
“Laura, if Hungry Heart is your favorite Springsteen song, you don’t know the man. Or your tastes run to pop music. That’s fine, you’re allowed your choices. Music is a personal preference thing.”
The fact that Hungry Heart is my fave tune doesn’t mean that I’m not familiar with Bruce’s body of work. I’m very familiar with his catalog. HH just happens to be my fave tune by him. I can’t explain it; it just is. It’s like you said; music is a personal preference. I also like “Magical Mystery Tour” by the Beatles, a song I just read most people detest. Can’t explain that one to you either.
For the record, I have no problem with Bruce or Pete’s love of the man. I was just answering someone’s question about Bruce sucking. He doesn’t suck; he’s just not my cup of tea.
Now, as for country music – that most certainly sucks!!
hello
New to the blog here…huge Yankee fan. Trying to keep up on all the rumors out there. Yanks still need a pitcher of some sort in my opinion. Be back later, kid has a softball game tonight.
“The Angels acquired switch-hitting slugger Mark Teixeira from the Atlanta Braves today for infielder Casey Kotchman and minor league pitcher Stephen Marek.”
If true, I’m surprised that the Angels parted with Kotchman. I thought that they were very high on him. I feel bad for Kotchman as well. To go from the Angels to the Braves is going to be quite a downer.
“At least no one said he was an innards eater.”
Ohhhh snap! LMAO!!
Laura, the rumors are true. its a 2 for 1 deal, Kotchman and a lesser known prospect for Tex.
Scranton-
Probably too young to remember. John Smoltz needed to see a psychologist Dr Jack Llewellyn in 1991, for his lack of concentration and a 2-11 record. Don’t you think he was depressed?
Baseball is a business, I agree, but not trading for Greineke because he had stress anxiety problems or depression years ago, doesn’t mean diddly if it’s controlled now.
Kill.Shill(ing) I agree, but NYC is a lot different than playing in Kansas City. That is the only concern I would have. I understand depression affects millions of people, but in this particular case it is something that “may” concern me.
Why Betemit? Have you noticed Yanks were on winning streak without Betemit in the lineup? Why Nady sits? Does A-Rod really needs rest? How about COLD Giambi? Maybe he needs to sit? Is Damon 100% percent ok to play LF? This lineup doesn’t seem right at all… like scheduling Ponson vs. Sox last Sunday. We’d have sweep over Boston playing Moose. Come on Girardi!
“Angels first baseman Casey Kotchman was pulled off the field during pregame warmups this afternoon at Fenway Park. And there are strong indications he is about to be traded to the Braves for Mark Teixeira, according to a source with knowledge of those discussions. Details are still being finalized, and additional, lesser names are expected to be involved. But Kotchman for Teixeira is the core of this deal.
The latest: A second source with knowledge of these discussions says the Braves will get Kotchman, plus a second lesser name, for Teixeira in a 2-for-1 deal.
”
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....e_deadline
Since there is so much BS being slung around – here is an LA Times link on the Tex deal.
(don’t buy a West Coast home Tex, rent)
http://www.latimes.com/sports/.....6166.story
Braves got nothing for him, Kotchman is a decent player. Angels get him for 2 months and then he will leave because they are too cheap then to give him $150m as a free agent. Then Angels will need another 1st baseman after this year.
btw, bruce doesnt have a great voice but he is a great singer. how could anybody not love the vocal on rosalita?
Yanks blow up d cab tonight and cruise to a 7-2 win.
I have learned that the Pads have thrown in Kevin Kouzmanoff for a 100$ Benihana gift certificate and a signed copy of Suzyn Waldmans “Roger Clemens is a Yankee” rant on audio tape
done deal for the angles says jayson stark.
yankees flirted with acquiring tex, but the braves wanted a major league ready first baseman. Obviously, the yanks couldnt provide that.
Might as well cross Teixeira off our wishlist this offseason, the Angels will do anything to keep him. If Teixeira does leave to be a free agent, then they are left without a 1b unless they would give Kendry Morales a shot.
Can Tex please get to Fenway in an hour to play against the Suxs.
Yanks offering a seat from the current Yankee stadium autographed by George M. Steinbrenner himself along with recently un-retired Steve Karsay for Brad Lidge and Ryan Howard.
Tex is an Angel, but they traded one of their best bats to get him.
Well there it is folks your 2008 World Series Champions LA Angels.
question.
with hawkins being wanted by both the twins and the tigers, why wouldnt the yanks try to trade him for something before DFA’ing him?
Getting Felix for some package not including an all-star or two is a hoax. Unless Seattle’s GM hates both Seattle and Boston, that is just not going to happen.
Not that I wouldn’t mind it …
“Might as well cross Teixeira off our wishlist this offseason, the Angels will do anything to keep him. ”
That isn’t Moreno’s M.O. as an owner – plus don’t forget that K-Rod is a free agent and is going to want to get PAID!
I go for a shower and all of a sudden Tex is an Angel…not good!
“yankees flirted with acquiring tex, but the braves wanted a major league ready first baseman. Obviously, the yanks couldnt provide that.”
You mean Sexson wasn’t good enough?!!!?
“Might as well cross Teixeira off our wishlist this offseason, the Angels will do anything to keep him. If Teixeira does leave to be a free agent, then they are left without a 1b unless they would give Kendry Morales a shot.”
No way Tex signs with them in the off season. He’s looking for a big time contract and the Angels don’t have the cash.
angels have him. And?
game are not won on paper.
games
Teixiera for Sexson?
If only.
“Well there it is folks your 2008 World Series Champions LA Angels.”
At least your AL Pennant winners. But he won’t get resigned.
Dumb trade for the Halos.
“Well there it is folks your 2008 World Series Champions LA Angels.”
Um, not so fast. They’re a better team with him, but they can still be beat.
are we talking about the same Zack Grienke? we can’t possibly be if we’re talking trading Phil Hughes.
i wouldn’t trade anyone in our system for a player that unstable.
boras and tex arent gonna give a crap about the angel’s 1b situation after this season. he will go to the highest bidder and if its not the angels, they’ll just have to figure something out.
arte thinks this is his year get a ring as the yanks, and sox are down. plus he can draw more fans away from the dodgers who will finish below .500 even if they do make a brief PS appearance.
Damn, Angels are going to be tough to beat.
With Lackey-Santana-Saunders in the rotation, Shields-Krod at the end of the pen, and Teixeria-Vlad-Hunter-Anderson-Kendrick in the lineup.
Ouch.
“I go for a shower and all of a sudden Tex is an Angel…not good!”
Get back in there so we can get Greinke!!!
(don’t forget behind the ears!)
Cross Tex off the list (at least until the offseason)
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3510042
“Dumb trade for the Halos.”
Not if you’re going to go for it all this year. LAA was just a bat away from being mega-dangerous. They just got that bat. Yes, he’s a 2 month rental, but a pretty darn good one. I would have made that deal.
The dumb one is ARI, who really need a big bat.
It’s looking like they acquired Tex to flip him for Sidney Ponson, after the Yankees balked at the initial Cotchman, Vlad, Ervin Santana, and Chone Figgins for Ponson and Eric Duncan offer.
Braves win this deal-Younger player, lower salary, solid at 1st, a lefty who hits lefties much better than Teixeira, and not testing Free Agency.
Whether it makes a difference when we play them 10 times and possibly in the playoffs, is a different story!
This just in, Yankees are deep in talks to acquire Justin Duscherererer, Jack Cust, Bob Geren and Billy Beane from the Athletics for Joe Girardi, Melky Cabrera and Kim Jones.
““Well there it is folks your 2008 World Series Champions LA Angels.â€
At least your AL Pennant winners. But he won’t get resigned.”
WTF Tex is having his worst season ever and people are conceding the season? The Angels are good but not unbeatable relax its only July and IMO Cotchman was very good to give up for a 2 month rental. I just hope Tex gets to Boston in time to kill Sux pitching.
“i wouldn’t trade anyone in our system for a player that unstable.”
please define unstable. sidney certainly isnt one you’d call stable. neither was mickey, billy, doc gooden, straw, canseco, and now arod. what is stable?
The Yankees have acquired Mr. Met for Sidney Ponson.
That sucks, there goes Tex……
WHO’S on 1st today for the Angels of Anaheim??
Isn’t Kotchman pretty good/ 12 Hrs and 54 rbi’s for a 25 year old . Do the Angels have some other 1st baseman or are the Angels chancing it with Teixeira. Wouldnt’t the angels want a window to extend?
“Well there it is folks your 2008 World Series Champions LA Angels.”
After this comment, the poster’s name should be changed to TRENTON.
Immediately, GM’s are labeling this a “steal” as Mr. Met has the potential to eventually have a head large enough to touch all four bases simultaneously.
Angels batting order didn’t get any longer. Dumb trade.
The problem is, the Angels traded one of their best bats, and better defenders (Kotchman is a better defensive first baseman) for Tex.
Its a lateral move.
I know folks are enamored by names on this blog but, Kotchman was actually having a better season than Tex.
Strange trade for the Angels. Its almost as if they are trying to prove they can make a trade rather than significantly upgrading their team.
I would be more inclined to call LA dumb for letting this trade opportunity slip by than for making it. There’s been a lot of years where they were arguably a deadline bat away from being the best team in the league, but Stoneman or whatever his name was, never could get a deal done because he was too furiously clinging to his prospects.
The new guy finally decided to go for it, and he didn’t really overpay. Not that I want to see Anaheim win the WS, but I think this was the right move to establish themselves as the favorite.
This is a total “Win it all now” move for the Angels.
And it’s one that could very well work.
The best team in baseball just got that much more dangerous.
Honestly, I just wish they did this before the Boston series or after ours. We have what, 10 games left against them, and now they all will have Tex. Boston gets a free game today with some random person playing first i’d assume.
Wait, is Kotchman a better defender than Tex? I thought Tex was one of the best.
OMG… enough with the fake ***breaking news*** fake trade crap… its annoying and it takes away from relevant conversations….
great news- just in time for tex to play us…
couldn’t he have gone to the D-backs?
“That sucks, there goes Tex……”
We were never going to get Tex this year, and still can and likely will next year.
The Yankees are close to acquiring Frank Catalanatto in exchange for Mike Mussina’s wipeboard and Kyle Farnsworth’s rifle collection, multiple sources report.
Mussina’s wipeboard has just been pulled from the locker room. More on this startling development as it becomes available.
I would have preferred he stayed in the NL till next year though…
yea really lets stop with the nonsense moves…
This is great news….we’ll get Tex as a free agent after the season and won’t need to give up any youngins !!! LOL
I thought the Angels Front Office had a problem with Boras.
So are the todays games being cancelled? The rest of the season? I mean with some of you handing the title over today to the Halos and all. They are a good team and all. But come on. They gave up a good hitting first baseman and got a better one. How many more wins will Tex land them? Besides we will just sick the Sox on them in the playoffs. Then turn around and beat them. Problem solved.
I can’t beleive that Mets fans are crying on the radio saying that the Yanks gave up nothing for Marte and Nady…they seem to be forgetting that they gave up nothing for Santana. Tabata has a chance to be better then anything they gave up. The fans were saying why didnt Pitts call Minaya he would of gave up more then they did..Oh yeah with the 2 prospects that they have..How stupid!!
Pete, now your stuff man- 10 games left against the angels, not 9
Since it’s still early on this deal, I wouldn’t be surprised if there were some tweaks. Atlanta wanted an OF with pop – wouldn’t be surprised to see Juan Rivera in this as well, maybe one of Atlanta’s minors lefty OF prospects in too. But it could stand as is.
Atlanta did fairly well here – Kotchman is a nice player. And his dad works for the Angels, so moving him must have been tough. The real downside is that the Angels have Tex in the fold, and no 1B going forward. So they’ll push hard for an extension, have some cash coming off the books with K-Rod, Garland, and GA coming off the roster, and aren’t wary of dealing with Boras or spending money. Could be bad news for the Tex in NY fans here.
does anyone know what time you can get into the stadium before a game??
Oh yeah I forgot we have a 1st baseman’s, they just can’t hit lefties or righties.
pete, it’s 10 games against the angels.
SJ, I agree regarding ANA lateral trade. Kotchman is an excellent defensive 1B and more than an adequate bat, and I believe younger than Tex.
Really, how much more offense will Tex give compared to Kotchman, is it really going to help them get to the 2nd round of the playoffs for a change instead of being bounced early (except 2002)?
I like Teixeira as much as the next guy, but far too many people overvalue him.
He’s a very good player, but he’s not a superstar.
And he’s certainly not worth the money and years he’s going to ask for during the offseason.
they play the angels 10 times I think not 9…
batting practice shows Molina starting not moeller what is up with that???????
wow tex to laa
SJ44, I think you are underating Tex. Go compare their numbers, they are not even close- Tex has an OPS over .900, Kotch is under .800. There is a huge gap between them offensively. Defensively, they are very close, and Tex actually has slightly better stats with the glove this year as well. It is a major upgrade.
TKinDC – if only it were that easy!!
“Well there it is folks your 2008 World Series Champions LA Angels.”
Some people mistake XBox Baseball for real baseball.
Is Tex a West Coast guy?
if this guarantees Teixeira not being signed by the yankees in 2009. Then, i like the trade.
Stuart: Moeller has good numbers with Rasner.
The Angels are going for the championship obviously..
they already have there divsion won. Big luxury to have all the pressure off until the playoffs….
Tex is a very good player but not great… Kotchman is 24 and having a very good yr., he has a very low strikeout rate.
If the angels give Tex a huge deal he probably will stay, anheim and the team ain’t a bad place to play. none of the pressure of NY and a very good team. I live in AL, the negative press etc. is almost nonexistent here…..
if the yankees do not score 6 runs today, They will lose. Copy and paste this into a notepad. You heard it here.
“Is Tex a West Coast guy?”
Nope – he’s from Baltimore.
Is it Thursday 4pm yet?
It will prove out that the Braves got the better of the deal with Casey Kotchman.
Teixeira is not a west coast guy. The deal reeks of rental.
It’s difficult to imagine how Artie Moreno will sign K-Rod AND Teixeira in the offseason.
I’m quite baffled by the Texeira for Kotchmann trade too.
Rebecca I know the batting practice lineup shows Molina not Moeller that is my point..
The yshould give Molina the day off…
That’s another thing about Teixeira and people overvaluing him. His defense is pretty good, but he’s not outstanding.
Kotchman is a better defender and was having a better season.
People often say that Teixeira is a Gold Glover and that’s not really the case.
Yes, he’s won Gold Gloves before, but so has Derek Jeter (he’s won three of them)- and I don’t hear people talking about Jeter being a Gold Glover these days.
The Gold Glove is often a popularity contest. It doesn’t always elect the guy with the best glove.
If Greinke suffers (ed) from social anxiety and has had bouts of depression, I would hesitate to throw him into the New York environment. I am not saying he can’t or hasn’t or won’t or won’t continue to overcome his issues, but NY is not exactly the best place for a human being with those kinds of problems to make a living. I don’t mean to sell the man short; I don’t know him or his situation. I do have experience, however, with a similar situation, and I would consider that and weigh it very strongly if I were a GM.
You really do need to take everything into account when you are going to acquire a player. It’s not a knock on the player at all. It’s just dealing with reality, specifically the reality of the pressures of playing in NY, and even more specifically, for the New York Yankees.
Are you trying to be funny, Al from BK? Or trying to get people who fly off the handle at any trade rumor as worked up as possible? lol
“if this guarantees Teixeira not being signed by the yankees in 2009. Then, i like the trade.”
That makes 2 of us.
Some of you guys spend way too much time looking at stats and not at the games.
Kasey Kotchman has probably been the Angels best all around player this year. Clutch hits, great glove, he’s won a lot of games for them this season.
Tex is a very good player. How many games has he won for the Braves this year? Not many.
The game is more than just a stat sheet. Some guys are just winning players.
I just don’t see how much more Tex is going to bring to the table than Kotchman has this year. Perhaps the Angels are going to overpay him in the off-season (if they let Garrett Anderson and Vlad go) and he will be the cornerstone of the team.
Overall though, its not a huge upgrade for the Angels this year, given the year Kotchman has had to date.
From a business perspective, trading an under control 25 year old first baseman, for a guy looking for a 200 million dollar contract makes little sense to me.
Either way, I don’t think it makes the Angels any tougher than they already are. Just adding a bigger name.
Tonight’s a big game b/c tomorrow night the O’s are starting a reliever against Joba (I smell a rout)
We win tonight – and we keep our 2nd half mojo working
I don’t see how anybody can think Teixeira going to LAA is a good thing…this is over the top opposite.
The Angels aquiring Tex just made that team all the more powerful. They were a dangerous team already. We haven’t played a single game against them yet and now they are better.
The Halos are now more than ever the front runner to make the World Series. They have the pitching, the offense, and the energy to do so. If they make it, this may encourage Tex to sign long term with them before testing the market.
Yea, I know Boras is a blood sucker and will want him on the market before letting him sign but LAA will have no choice but to throw everything they’ve got at him since they’ve got nobody to play 1B anymore.
Not good, not good at all.
I completely disagree that Kotchman is a comparable offensive player to Mark Teixeira. We’re talking about Casey Kotchman.
Kotchman: Career OPS: .763
Teixeira: Career OPS: .909
Kotchman: 2008 OPS: .775
Teixeira: 2008 OPS: .902
Tex is 28 and Kotchman is 25. It’s not like Tex is 10 years older.
“I know folks are enamored by names on this blog but, Kotchman was actually having a better season than Tex.”
Explain to me, with any statistical basis, how Kotchman is having a better season.
Tex 2008: 20 hr, 78 rbi, 65 bb, .283/.390/.512
Kotch 08: 12 hr, 54 rbi, 18 bb, .287/.327/.448
I read Mr Moreno has put some 200 mill aside, to keep Tex.
Angels gave up a good player for a rental. How long is Kotchman under control.
Why couldn’t we put together a package of Chase Wright, Juan Miranda, Ponson, and Britton for Texeira or something?
Nice deal for Atlanta; Kotchman has 3 more years (after this one) of being cost controlled.
Angel- Its the latter.
200M? Is that what Tex is looking for next year? For how many years?
I knew he was looking for something big (obviously, with Boras), but he’s not a 20, 25M/year player.
SJ: It’s an interesting take on the trade.
The Yankees obviouslly have to get an arm, they got nady and marte which is a huge trade.. but why isn’t he playing tonight? if he wanted to give Damon a day in LF put Nady in RF and DH Abreu..
CASHMAN GO OUT AND GET AN ARM!
“I read Mr Moreno has put some 200 mill aside, to keep Tex.”
Since this trade is probably not even official yet I would love to see your source.
Because neither one of them is a major league ready first baseman? Which the Braves need.
My feelings are the team that has the guy has a bit of an edge when the guy is going for free agency. Both CC and Teixeira will have had a feel for playing with another team and it could influence what happens. However, if they’re looking for money and the team they’re traded to just doesn’t historically spend the money, then who knows? And if a guy, say, HATES California, then, again, it won’t matter.
Anyway, the Yankees weren’t getting Tex now, if ever. How do the Yankees do versus Teixeira, stats-wise? Do they handle him or does he handle them?
Scott Boras has season tickets right behind home plate at Angels Stadium. In fact, its on the field in a dugout suite. His office is less than 15 minutes away from the stadium.
The Angels aren’t going to re-sign K-Rod. Seems to me Boras convinced Moreno (who he is tight with) that Tex is the guy to build their team around for the future.
Its the only reason I can come up with for the Angels to make this deal.
To trade Kotchman for a rental, when they have no other first baseman worth anything in their system, makes no sense.
Wouldn’t surprise me if Scott worked out a wink wink deal with Moreno to get this deal done. The kind of deal he tried and failed to do with Arod for the Angels last year.
lol okay. I just wanted to know if I needed to laugh, or sit back and watch the fireworks with some popcorn.
“The game is more than just a stat sheet. Some guys are just winning players.”
Let’s trade robinson cano (not a winning player, no world series titles) for david eckstein (2 titles, W.S. MVP, very gritty)
He’s a winning player!!
And by what basis is Casey Kotchman a “winning player”?
Has he won a world series? What has he done to merit his worth transcending his stats? Plays for the gritty Angels?
Well if we play any teams with armless pitcher’s our 1st baseman are all set.
The Angels also gave up one of their top pitching prospects in the deal along with Kotchman. That seems like a lot for a 2 month rental.
What Cashman says to reporters means nothing. If Seattle is talking to him right now, a deal could be made RIGHT NOW. He is just posing and posturing and when the clock strikes midnight on Thursday Night AND on 8/31/08 that is when “nothing” is happening.
Its very obvious that the Angels are going for broke with this move. I still think they are beatable every team is.
Kotchman is not better or equal to Tex…please stop insanity.
SJ44, that is a copout answer, using the typical “you stat guys dont watch the games.” Let us be honest, Kotchman’s numbers are good, not great for a first baseman. Teixeira hasnt won as many games because he is on an inferior team. Both players have good clutch numbers, not just Kotchman. ANd quite frankly, I watch plenty of the Angels, so this idea that you watch these games and the “stat” people (meaning anyone who quotes a statistic) dont is silly and condescending.
buster olney put the likelihood of a washburn deal at 50-50 and said the M’s are angry the yanks arent offering a top prospect but nobody else is offering anything.
SJ44, I think you are dead on here, though I do think Teixeira is an upgrade from Kotchman. But it doesn’t seem significant enough to trade Kotchman for a rental player. If the Angels really were taxed at first base and desperately needed an upgrade I could see why they’d do it, but for a marginal upgrade of an impending free agent seems odd to me.
The Angels were going to be a tough team this year regardless. This makes them a little tougher. It just stinks that they’ll be playing the Red Sox tonight at less than full strength.
I don’t know if it has been said above, but if the Yankees got away with robbery in the Nady/Marte deal, the Angels just got away with….I don’t even know.
Well said, Moshe
Reports said Atlanta was looking for pitching. Still wouldn’t like the cost to the Yankees for a rental. Even if it is Teixeira the Great.
Casey Kotchman has helped the Angels become the best team in baseball this year with his clutch hits and defense. He’s a very, very good young player.
Tex, while compiling great stats, hasn’t helped the Braves win anything.
To me, its about winning. Is Tex that much better than what Kotchman has done for the Angels this year to put them over the top? Reasonable minds can disagree on that.
You can list all the stats you want. Watch the games. This has been Kotchman’s breakout year for Anaheim. He saved the Sox game last night with a great play, a play Tex doesn’t make, down the first base line.
If Tex goes to Anaheim and dominates, different story. But, when he has he done that? He didn’t dominate in his time in Atlanta.
He had Chipper Jones, who was flirting with .400 for the first half of the season, as protection in the Braves order. The Angels are offensively challenged. Vlad is having an off year, Anderson is about done, even Hunter has been up and down. Can he carry a team? We shall see.
Yet, Kotchman has put together a very solid year.
I just don’t need how this is some huge upgrade to what the Angels are doing this year.
Its like folks deciding the race was over last year when the Red Sox got Gagne. He ended up having nothing to do with the Red Sox winning.
Tex is a very good player but, he is WAY overvalued by people on this blog.
I can understand arguing that the Braves won based on their situation and a cost controlled young player.
Arguing that Kotchman is a better player or is having a better season than Tex is just inappropriate.
Brain Cashman just said there are no deals pending for a pitcher or catcher did he not say that a few days ago and then pulled off the deal with pittsburg MMMMMMMMMMMMM?
Those above saying the Angels don’t have cash or won’t make a big deal must be forgetting Vladdy, or Hunter, or Matthews.
With Anderson, Garland, and K-Rod possibly coming off the books, they’ve got the cash. GA is practically an extra piece for them going forward. Garland can be replaced by Adenhart or a returning Escobar if he’s healthy for a good part of next season. And they’ll move Shields to the closer role and find a setup arm if K-Rod’s cost gets out of hand, or just figure Arredondo will fill the setup role and fill in for lesser roles. Plus they’ve got other pieces to move or promote if necessary. Plan B could be in order in NY.
I actually think the Yankees deal was still a better deal (for the Yankees, anyway).
The Angels traded 1B for 1B and had to give up a pitching prospect in the process.
BK r u lying? or r u serious?lol
Everybody needs to relax.
How many times over the last 8 years were the Yankees the team to beat on paper, only to be a disappointment in the playoffs?
How many times have we seen a team run up their win totals in a division which gave them no competition – only to take a nosedive in the postseason? (How many championships did Seattle win with that 116-win season a few years ago?)
Yeah, the Angels are pretty stacked right now. But it doesn’t guarantee them anything.
And I agree with SJ – this is entirely a lateral move. One that the Angels could regret a year from now.
i think the angels are “going for it” and i can’t blame them
i never thought they had the b@!!s to do it
they got what every said they needed
i think their team is better this year, and who knows if they’ll have a better team next year, eve with cotchman
TKinDC:
Its in One Stop on of the Tex links, also was mentioned by Buster not the exact quote, but he said the Angles will owner will put 200 mill, and if Kotchman goes Mr. Moreno will stop at nothing to keep him (Tex) he has been coveted by the Halo’s since last year when they missed out on him.
******THIS JUST IN*******
This season has been cancelled!! The World Series has been rewarded to the Angels. Better luck next year.
Exactly CUYanks. I can agree that the trade was likely shortsighted and a win-now move. However, the idea that Kotchman is as good as Tex is ridiculous.
The issue is simple. Is Tex so much of an upgrade that it makes sense for the Angels to do this deal.
Unless they intend to sign him in the off-season, I don’t think the upgrade to what Kotchman has been doing this year, and can possibly do for the rest of his career, that significant.
Just strikes me as an odd trade for the Angels.
I hope the Yankees don’t use Nady as just a right handed bat and Marte as a lefty specialist.
Nady is a great right handed bat who shouldn’t sit and Marte is a set-up man/Closer.Girardi sure can’t put a line-up.They waste so much talent on the bench.
Why isn’t LaTroy,Betemit and Ponson on other teams too?
To me, I would think that this commits the Angels to sign Tex in the off-season. Otherwise, they gave up Kotchman for a two month rental. Not a good move, I think. They are now committing to spending megabucks, which may limit them going forward.
“Casey Kotchman has helped the Angels become the best team in baseball this year with his clutch hits and defense. He’s a very, very good young player.
Tex, while compiling great stats, hasn’t helped the Braves win anything.
To me, its about winning. Is Tex that much better than what Kotchman has done for the Angels this year to put them over the top? Reasonable minds can disagree on that.
You can list all the stats you want. Watch the games. This has been Kotchman’s breakout year for Anaheim. He saved the Sox game last night with a great play, a play Tex doesn’t make, down the first base line.”
First off, you cite anecdotal evidence of Kotchman’s greatness. Do you think statistics are made up? Statistics happen to be anecdotal evidence, recorded and accumulated over a much larger sample size. These people who kept these statistics watched many more Angels games than you. (see: all of them) Thus, they are much much more meaningful.
Playing on a winning team in baseball is just silly. You can’t pitch, and you only hit in one of 9 spots. Remember when Arod’s teams were toiling in last place before he was traded? Was he a bad player then? As soon as he came to the Yankees did he become twice the player he was? If you go by his team’s record, as you might like, he did. If you go by statistics, he didn’t. What do you think is more accurate?
“Why couldn’t we put together a package of Chase Wright, Juan Miranda, Ponson, and Britton for Texeira or something?”
Chris Britton ate the trade papers before they could get faxed.
so was the greinke talk a bunch of bs or what? any new developments there. Im hoping for another mid game anouncement…even though cashman just said specifically that there wont be
Tex is a better player than Kotch, but trading Kotch for him means getting him didn’t lengthen their line-up, it just improved it a bit.
Casey Kotchman is 3 years younger than Teixeira and not free agency eligible until after 2010.
I think it’s safe to say the Greinke stuff was a mistake
Mark Teixeira is a a better player than Kotchman but the difference between them isn’t nearly as large as what people are making it out to be.
Will Teixeira help them offensively this year relative to Kotchman? Sure. Does that additional benefit make them the overwhelming favorites to win the world series? Not really – they’re a better offensive team but not so much better that the rest of baseball is looking up at them.
I like Teixeira but I have to say, he’s become one of the more over rated players in the game. He’s a very good player who has somehow become perceived to be a superstar or an elite player. He’s not. He’s a very good player.
Tex’s career offensive production is fairly close to Jason Bay’s, another player rumored to be on the market. If the Angels acquired Bay would anyone be saying that they’d sewn up the World Series?
Last year was one of the two best season’s Teixeira has ever had. He was 6 wins better than a replacement first baseman.
Last year Casey Kotchman was 5 wins better than a replacement first baseman.
The Angels will derive some benefit this year but nowhere near enough to make them that much more likely to win the series than they were before getting Tex. And giving up a cost controlled player like Kotchman will hurt long term.
Hi gang:
Assorted losers are posting made-up trades in the comments section. Feel free to ignore these idiots.
I need an intern or something.
Well, you know we already have Greinke’s brother (taken in the draft this year and at SI). Maybe he is homesick.
Kotchman better than Tex?
Lay off the crack.
The only problem with the Tex deal is that it was basically a straight-up swap of Texeira for Kotchman. The pitcher the Braves got was considered a marginal prospect, at best, so, looking at a straight swap…I don’t see how this even close to being a square deal. Sure..Kotchman is younger, probably signed for next year, but Teixeira has got 20 HR, 78 RBI’s and is a gold-glove 1B. If us Yankee fans had the Yankees make this deal, we’d have been ecstatic, even without the certainty of re-signing Tex.
Of course he’s over valued here, LOOK at our 1st Baseman?? Nothing on any horizen, Tex was a switch hitter with power from both sides, he’s way more valuable than prospects.
I’ll be your intern…
I hope the Yankees don’t use Nady as just a right handed bat and Marte as a lefty specialist.
Um… Been watching? He played against righthanded pitchers 2 of 3 games so far.I dont see what youre talking about. They obviously wanted to get A-Rod half a night off and get Betemit in the lineup. I dont see whats wrong with it.
The point is that they gave up a good player who would be under their control for 3 more years for a player they’ll use for 3 months. Kotchman helped them beat their achilles team, Boston.
Oh well, at least it’s not us. It’d be like us giving up Cano for Teixeira.
Pete, you probably wouldn’t have a hard time finding an intern if you advertised for it…
“Tex is a better player than Kotch, but trading Kotch for him means getting him didn’t lengthen their line-up, it just improved it a bit.”
Good point.
I think some of the made up trades are just for fun, rather than being serious.
Expect to see a ton of trade talk as we usually do during this time of year. Most amount to nothing, but a few do pan out.
Some of the talk is just to try and draw out what other teams are trying to do. Cashman keeps things close when he is setting up deals.
Sorry Tex is a switch hitter not was…
Best explanation so far.
Shields can close but he is no K rod. Vladdy will be a yr. older etc.. The angels should be a good team for years, but they are no powerhouse.. there division stinks and that is a huge benefit..
if you think shields and addelando(whtever his name is) are no where near as good as those 2 plus K rod…
the angels have a good minor league system or that is what they tell me and again should be good for years.
If the Yanks continue with cashmans plan, cut the old guys, and continue to develop the pitching they will also be good for years…..
I want to start a petition to get rid of the “Jeter’s Got an Edge” commercial. It is insanity inducing.
CB, very well put. The only thing will quibble with you over is that Tex had his worst defensive season last year, which brought down his value when compared to a replacement player. What are those numbers thus far this season.
Pete, you really didn’t know what you were getting into when you set up this blog. I guess it’s a result of the blog being so popular.
On another note guys/gals, I think SJ is onto something here with the whole ‘wink, wink’ deal with Moreno. If the Halos make the series, which I believe they have a very good shot at, Tex may feel like this is the place for him especially with Boras doing everything in his power to get LAA to pay him. Perhaps a discount?
I don’t like the Yanks’ chances of nabbing him in the offseason anymore.
Well, tex doesn’t play second base, so it’s hard to use that analogy because we’d have to replace cano. Maybe trading cano for a potentially un-retainable Chase Utley. (or slightly worse player)
mel (47-1) July 29th, 2008 at 6:33 pm
Reports said Atlanta was looking for pitching. Still wouldn’t like the cost to the Yankees for a rental. Even if it is Teixeira the Great.
Mel,
that is not true…reports said that atlanta was looking for a major league ready 1st baseman in return..the yanks could not do that….
What are the odds that Daniel Cabrera flips his usual pitching act, and aces the Yankees again tonight?
“Nady is a great right handed bat who shouldn’t sit”
Nady is not a GREAT anything. He’s an average outfielder with a pretty good bat. Let’s not get crazy here.
Kotchman isn’t a switch hitter..is he? Thats a big deal for a power hitter.
Anyway he’s gone, I hope we win tonight.
Hey does Tex need a ride to Fenway.
“Oh well, at least it’s not us. It’d be like us giving up Cano for Teixeira.”
‘Cept for the fact that Kotchman is nowhere close to as good as Cano.
Not for nothin’, but wasn’t there supposed to be a “wink-wink” deal with the Angels for A-Rod last season?
Players are ultimately going to go where they want to go and do what they want to do.
Only in the second half.
The point is we’d be upset if Cano was shipped out for someone who may not be around after 3 months. Someone you may have to replace.
Won’t see too many “Wow, the Angels really made out on this deal”. If they win the world series, it’s likely because of their pitching, defense, and Figgins, not Teixeira.
“Of course he’s over valued here, LOOK at our 1st Baseman??”
Which is exactly why he’s overvalued by Yankee fans – its relative. Doesn’t mean he is that valuable, just that he’s comparatively valuable. Ask a team with great defensive first baseman, what they’d think of trading their first baseman for him.
I be surprised if they hold him in the same esteem as he’s held by a lot of Yankee fans.
NongEyeJohn: Service-wise, this is Kotchman’s third year. He has 3 more years (barring major injury/minor league stints) before free agency. So, cheap and more than serviceable 1st baseman for the next few years for Atlanta as they rebuild/lick their wounds. Don’t know what other offers there were, but I suppose that plus a pitching prospect would still beat the compensation draft picks otherwise.
Hey! We just retired Brian Roberts!
Tex’s trade makes Halos slightly better no question.
As far as Yanks are concerned, it all depends on how our pitchiing holds up. If they do well, they will do as well as any body.
Once the playoff come, it is pitching that rules. Look at what happened when me met Detroit a couple of years back. With Abrue’s acquistion the pundits branded Yanks offense as one of the best in history and got swept.
jeter’s only edge is hitting into dp’s
Rasner’s feeling the Washburn heat…
doris from rego park IS francis the praying mantis, thus having minus credibility in the real world!
Haha can Hughes’ start get rained out for a 2nd straighjt night?
Kennedy on the mound for Scranton.
The Angels, have a big hole, im not exactly sure where it is yet, because IMO when your closer has 44 saves and its not even August, something is wrong with your team.
10 for 12, Markakis off of Rasner. Can we just automatically walk him? Not even intentionally walk by throwing 4 pitches…when he’s announced, he should just go to first base.
Unfrickenbelievable. Even when Ras makes the pitch he needs to make, Markakis gets a lucky hit off him.
There’s no guarantee on Posada’s shoulder surgery. If his shoulder still isn’t good enough to throw from the catcher’s position, he might be the Yankees 1st baseman next season.
Hey guys, at least we have Halladay and Lackey working for us tonight!
ummmm – I think I spoke too soon
1 more out Rasner. Come on
remember… i said the yankees must score 6
This guy is just so hittable, it’s not even funny. Shell out the prospect for Washburn…he has to be better than this, right?
I am so sick of Baltimore.
oh cmon Ras. Can’t even get 1 out.
I’ve had enough of this minor league pitcher starting games for us.
Why haven’t we improved the rotation yet? We are wasting games here.
Strikes dude. Strikes
This guy is awful.
I do wish people would stop talking about Daniel Cabrera like he’s an automatic CG shutout waiting to happen. I can remember many an occasion when we’ve absolutely pounded him.
god yankee killer is up
“This guy is just so hittable, it’s not even funny. Shell out the prospect for Washburn…he has to be better than this, right?”
Yeah, I know what you mean, man. He sucks so bad, how in the WORLD could he let Markakis get that hit? He must really suck for daring to jam Markakis there.
And that dribbler through the middle, man, he really sucks.
RASNER MUST GO
Rasner is on borrowed time. He had a nice stretch, but now reality is setting in. We can live with Ponson in the 5th spot, until Kennedy or hughes cmes back. But our best case scenario for the rotation down the stretch is Pettitte, Chamberlain, Mussina, Washburn/?, Hughes/Kennedy.
This is really frustrating. 2 quick outs, then 2 BS lucky hits, and now this.
“Yeah, I know what you mean, man. He sucks so bad, how in the WORLD could he let Markakis get that hit? He must really suck for daring to jam Markakis there.
And that dribbler through the middle, man, he really sucks.”
Defend Rasner someplace else, troll.
With Baltimore its a case of familiarity breeds contempt. Nothing more.
Rasner kept the damage to a minimum.
I don’t think I’d classify Huff and Mora’s hits as lucky. They were solid, back up the middle.
“This is really frustrating. 2 quick outs, then 2 BS lucky hits, and now this.”
Agreed. But, he got out of it with only 1 run. I’ll take it.
Of course, the idiotic know-nothings blame Rasner for DARING to allow BS lucky hits. As if they’re preventable.
Why so much hating on Rasner? Adam Jones and Nick Markakis are hitting very well this year. Stop hating on the guy so much.
who is the worse pitcher, Ponson or Rasner? We will not go far with those two in the 4 and 5 hole!
If the yankees can’t score 2. they deserve to lose every night.So that’s not the end of the world. But i still think 6 is the magic # for the win
Wow, can’t believe he got him!
This is why we are in 3rd place with a 200+ million dollar payroll.
Cheaping out on the 4th and 5th starters.
So…do we make this guy throw strikes, or do we just hack like we usually do when we’re losing?
Let’s not do that every inning Rasner.
Get to work bats
I love how if you’re vaguely reasonable, you’re a troll.
“very well put. The only thing will quibble with you over is that Tex had his worst defensive season last year, which brought down his value when compared to a replacement player. What are those numbers thus far this season.”
Teixeira was pretty bad defensively last year. But year to year he’s not nearly as good as people think he is.
This year he’s having a good defensive year – he’s got the 4th highest +/- rating for all first baseman’s this year.
However, he’s having a much worse offensive season than he had last year. He had an OPS of over 1.000 last year. Not even close this year.
I’d guess he’ll finish at around a 5-6 WARP player again – perhaps a little lower as his offense is down so much.
Kotchman this year is not having as good a season as he did last year with the bat so maybe he’ll be a 3-4 WARP player or so.
So I’d guess there will be a 2 WARP difference between the two players at the end of the season.
2 additional wins – but that’s for the whole season. The angels have played 65% of their games this season. So for the rest of the season Tex will give the Angels an additional .7 wins compared to Kotchman.
Tex really isn’t having that great a season this year.
At the all star break taking both defense and offense into account Texeira was 14 runs better than a league average first baseman. That’s good – but its hardly great.
For comparison Lance Berkman was 44 runs better. Pujols was 44 runs better. Those are great numbers.
They dwarf Teixeira. The way people talk about him you’d think he’s on Pujols or Berkman’s level – he’s not even in their ball parks.
Jason Giambi at the all star break was 19 runs better than a league average first baseman – so even he was better than Tex. This is taking defense into consideration.
Kotchman was exactly a league average firstbaseman at the break. So for the first half of the season tex was 14 runs better than Kotchman.
14 runs better mean that Texeira contributed 1.5 wins more to his team than Kotchman did.
So I think my estimate of Tex being 3 wins better than Kotchman for the entire season is on the mark.
So Tex will provide an additional .7-.9 wins compared to Kotchman. The Angels are 11.5 games ahead of Texas in the AL West.
So clearly his acquisition and that additional .7-.9 wins is meaningless.
Now if you are going to tell me that Tex will dominate the post season OK fine. But there is very limited reason to believe that will be the case. There is no way to predict how players – even very good ones like Tex – will produce over the short series of time/ small sample that the playoffs comprise.
We might have the worst 4th and 5th starters in the game.
Yanks in trouble early. Down 1-0 to the Orioles with Cy Young Cabrera pitching.
How does a team with a 5+ ERA in the month of July, and a pitcher (Guthrie)with a 8+ ERA smack the Yankees around like a new recruit in prison.
Now they have to face another guy who dominates them – Daniel Cabrera… which is interesting because this guy is Farnsworth in a starter role.
Below average pitching, more of a killer than facing the Angels.
Please Aceves come on down!!
Cabrera throws 2 hit shutouts against us. This could be a long night.
Cabrera 1-5, 6+ ERA in his last 6 starts…. watch Yanks will go 1-2-3. They just look flat tonight.
just friggin wow
Yes…DJ, swing at that first pitch. Way to work him.
Cash got a great poker face on who will help out this rotation.
ERic Milton,Rasner,Ponson,Zambrano,The Injury Twins Hughes and Pavano.
Sure Cash you really think these guys are gonna help us?
How can anyone defend the way Rasner has pitched the past 2 months? He has been downright awful. I know he’s just a fill in but these are the Yankees. Trade some of these fabulous prospects for a starter already.
The captain doesn’t like to take pitches. Y’all should know that by know
Leave it to the Yankees to get a pitcher out of his funk…
“Of course, the idiotic know-nothings blame Rasner for DARING to allow BS lucky hits. As if they’re preventable.”
And then some brainiac a few posts up comes out with “defend Rasner someplace else, troll” ….that’s what we get for daring to watch the game I guess! Amazing.
“Why so much hating on Rasner? Adam Jones and Nick Markakis are hitting very well this year. Stop hating on the guy so much.”
Because he DARES to be worse than JOHAN SANTANA. WE NEED JOHAN SANTANA AS OUR #5 pitcher! COMEON Cashman, deal Hughes+Jackson+Joba+Kennedy – we need a good #5!!!
who cares about zimbrano, his first name isn’t carlos
CC, I could not have said it better myself. This is what we tend to do against these types of pitchers.
Can someone tell me how Slugging Percentage is calculated?
The Injury Twins Hughes and Pavano…. that is funny.
All I could think of is Wonder Twins power activate….
Hughes: Form of a broken rib
Pavano: Form of a pull butt muscle
Nice…together a rib and a shank.
“They just look flat tonight.”
Dude, it’s the FIRST INNING! Cabrera is a guy you have to wait out. Give it time.
Although if they do make his life easy all game, I will gladly join you in ripping them. I’m SOOOOO sick of watching them not hit this bum.
“Can someone tell me how Slugging Percentage is calculated?”
Total bases divided by At bats
Is there any doubt that Cabrera goes the distance in a 7-0 win?
The old Yanks are back.
That is what working the count does DJ….oh yeah, he was out on one pitch.
Cabrera looks like a Cy Young winner vs the Yanks.
Quietly, Giambi is in the .240′s again.
nice Alex
I’m SOOOOO sick of watching them not hit this bum.
Add to this list any C level pitcher that has earned a Cy Young nomination this year. That list is very long.
“Can someone tell me how Slugging Percentage is calculated?”
Look it up on Google, Sherlock.
The price for Washburn goes up every pitch the scrub Rasner throws.
WAAAAAAAAAAAH
I think it’s time for the thong Jason
WAAAAAAAAAAAAH
looks like it’s too much, for this team to get up for the orioles.
NongEyeJon = WAAAAAAH July 29th, 2008 at 7:28 pm
“Can someone tell me how Slugging Percentage is calculated?â€
Look it up on Google, Sherlock.
Love trolls. Coward.
Stuart – Shields actually has a comparable (slightly better) K rate than “K”-Rod. And a better WHIP.
To my mind, closing is overrated. And way overpaid. I think the Angels know this. Shields is the guy pitching in all the tough spots for the Angels now. Closing will be a break for him. My son-in law is a huge Angels fan (we live in OC). Been joking with him that K-Rod’s arm will fall off before the playoffs if this keeps up. He’s 3rd in the AL in appearances last I checked. My son jokes they’ll chew him up then spit him out for the poor fool team that signs him next.
Perhaps the Dodgers! Then everyone can blame Torre again for another guy that breaks down under his watch that was abused before he got him, a la Karsay, Quantrill, etc. Not that I’m a fan of Joe T’s pen menagement.
K-Rod could cost most of what it will cost for Tex in the first 3-4 years. The other departures provide plenty of budget room.
And I agree that Tex is an upgrade for the Angels where they most need it – on the run scoring side. Their offense has heated up of late – this just makes them more dangerous.
I agree with SJ that this is a good deal for Atlanta, but that’s because they got a very good replacement for a guy they had no assurance of keeping. And at much lower cost. But I don’t buy into the “winning player” thing. I do think some players are cooler under fire than others – that’s a product of skill, confidence, and calmness. Winning teams require success by multiple players. Since I live here in OC, I get to see Kotch plenty. Good player. But not the kind of offensive threat Tex is. Slotting Tex behaind Vladdy and ahead of a hot Torii Hunter is scary. GA is hitting well right now – a lefty to follow Hunter. Kendrick is their Cano – never saw a pitch he couldn’t hit, and does. If Figgins gets hot like he has in the past, look out.
But they can be beaten.
Hi all. I have pretty think skin and I know I can be an idiot at times (or most of the time) but I did not make that trade up. not my style. i heard it on the radio while sitting in my office today. i say and so alot of dumb things, but i stand by what i heard
Giambi now 7 for his last 47 (.149).
Question for you all…
Giambi and his average defense and current slump?
Sexson and his average defense and can’t swing the bat?
Betemit and his below average defense and his can’t hit the ball?
Nice choices for 1st base. Calling Bernie Williams, come out of retirement and play 1st base.
Shave the stache already!!
Giambi should probably shave.
There are worse #4′s and #5′s out there. You just have to look for them, like…Baltimore.
Unless you’re telling me that you want Garrett Olson and Radhames Liz as your 4th and 5th. Or whoever Texas’s 4th and 5ths are. Or the Mariners’.
Doris. You made it up. It was comical. Move on.
John,
Obviously, a computer gives people the guts they don’t normally have, so they could insult anyone they want.
“Add to this list any C level pitcher that has earned a Cy Young nomination this year. That list is very long.”
Not hitting Cabrera is way more annoying than not hitting all those other scrubs though. We see him all the time, he isn’t a lefty, and there are a wealth of lefties in the very same rotation that we already can’t hit.
Meanwhile, way to walk one of the worst starting players in baseball. Sigh.
We need to get Ponson and Rasner out of the rotation ASAP…they could easily keep us out of the playoffs, if we have to endure them on the mound as much as we’ll need a #4 and #5 starter through the end of the season. They both have worn out their welcome. Thanks for what you did, boys…but now…here’s the door ! ;-(
God could Rasner throw some strikes?
“Question for you all…
Giambi and his average defense and current slump?
Sexson and his average defense and can’t swing the bat?
Betemit and his below average defense and his can’t hit the ball?
Nice choices for 1st base. Calling Bernie Williams, come out of retirement and play 1st base.”
You forgot to add Berni Williams cant hit/catch/run/throw. But he can play the quitar in the duggout for us. Keep the guys loose.
“There are worse #4’s and #5’s out there. You just have to look for them, like…Baltimore.
Unless you’re telling me that you want Garrett Olson and Radhames Liz as your 4th and 5th. Or whoever Texas’s 4th and 5ths are. Or the Mariners’.”
We are desperate for the Mariners 4th starter!!! Wow. Get a clue already.
Is there any doubt that Ninja Warrior is complete moron ?
“Is there any doubt that Cabrera goes the distance in a 7-0 win?”
Perhaps, but there is no doubt that you are an idiot.
On a personal note, the good news is thursday is my last day of work until september 1st. whole month of august off and moving to watermill…
Well, at least he can get Roberts out. That’s a rarity around these parts.
When you are desperate for the worst team in baseballs 4th starter you know the season is not going well.
“Question for you all…
Giambi and his average defense and current slump?
Sexson and his average defense and can’t swing the bat?
Betemit and his below average defense and his can’t hit the ball?”
What’s Andy Phillips doing these days?
(seriously…didn’t he get cut by Cincy? Wouldn’t he be better than Sexson?)
But he can play the quitar in the duggout for us. Keep the guys loose.
sos27….. that was good. Nice come back. Maybe he can get Cano and Cabrera to do their club salsa dancing…
I think one thing that may be able to recharge our offense is if matsui comes back hitting lights out. This will allow us to put Nady on first and take the now worthless Giambi out of the lineup.
Washburn’s the Mariner’s 3rd best starter; 2nd whenever Bedard’s out. Actually, Bedard is disabled right now…so Washburn’s effectively the Mariner’s #2 now. That’s pretty sad in its own right.
I got into a heated debate with a friend about this question…so if watching Cabrera school the Yanks gets old, offer your opinion if you’d like:
What would you say is the most important aspect (defense, starting pitching, offense, closers, etc) in building a championship team? Obviously you need all of these things, but if you bring it down to one particular thing, which is it and why?
“Is there any doubt that Cabrera goes the distance in a 7-0 win?â€
Perhaps, but there is no doubt that you are an idiot.
Name calling. Nicely done. Showing class isn’t dead around here after all.
Anything from the Yanks vs Cabrera that makes you think this WONT be a shutout?
I said starting pitching.
Great to see our hitters still struggling against mediocre pitchers.
nong eye jon: PS3 or Xbox?
Awful pitchers are so awesome against the Yanks.
Angels fixin’ to drop some major wood on the Sux…already up 2-0 …sweet !
“I think one thing that may be able to recharge our offense is if matsui comes back hitting lights out. This will allow us to put Nady on first and take the now worthless Giambi out of the lineup.”
let’s rely on the guy who 4 doctors have recommended surgery to. Great call.
vinny-b: sega genesis
…and then Vlad the inning killer, hits into a DP with the bases loaded…SON OF A MOTHER ! ;-(
Wow, this is frickin ridiculous. Two hard hit balls right at Baltimore fielders. Meanwhile they build a rally on 2 lucky fluke hits before they finally get one legit one. Don’t we have a hard enough time against Cabrera without the baseball gods conspiring against us here?
And the Cabrera slurping continues from Sterling. Right cause luck has not been a factor at all so far…
Did anyone really expect to win the East with Ponson and Rasner going 2 times a rotation?
Melky, always the same. He either hacks at the first pitch and pops up or gets ahead in the count just so he can ground out weakly to second. Either way, it’s pretty sad that’s the best we have to offer in CF.
lol
Forget about shaving the ‘stache… just don’t re-sign the ‘stache.
“…and then Vlad the inning killer, hits into a DP with the bases loaded…SON OF A MOTHER ! ;-(”
he’s like the only one who hits into more DPs than Jeter, I think.
Starting pitching….
look no further than the A’s or Angels to see how good starting pitching can carry you when your offense stinks or in the case of the Yankees contains so many old guys, you think it is constantly Old Timers day.
With good starting pitching you can control the game. After pitching you need good defense.
You can always manufacture runs. (Hear that Girardi, M A N U F A C T U R E RUNS)
Was that an (un)intentional walk to Markakis? Not the lead-off man, right? Im glad Kay announced.
Quit whining BBB.
Like we don’t get calls and bounces and gifts.
Pavano looked rusty in his first inning for Charleston. Not surprisingly… Lucked into a good inning Reggie’s in the house is he on a rehab assignment?
These walks suck
Great call passing on Santana, Haren, Sabathia and Harden.
I thought we had a good farm system overflowing with prospects???
Very nice, can’t get the guy on a missed hit-and-run.
Is there a place to follow “The often injured one” and Phil in their rehab game online?
Southern Yank – the surprise is that Pavano actualy pitched in a game!
I thought we had a good farm system overflowing with prospects???
We do. They are all being schooled by Pavano and Billy Connors. Look for Hughes to pull a back muscle putting on his sox. The Curse of Carl…
Rasner is a solid pitcher. He needs support.
Poor laptop down 4-0
Southern Yank – the surprise is that Pavano actualy pitched in a game!
Tuning up for Old Timers game on Saturday.
Now let’s get some runs for Rasner. Cabrera was knocked around in his last 2 starts – the Yanks need to do that to him as well.
Pavano Pitches a Scoreless Inning!!!!!!
Everth Cabrera walks.
With Michael Mitchell batting, Everth Cabrera steals (62) 2nd base.
Michael Mitchell called out on strikes.
Bo Bowman lines into double play, second baseman Justin Snyder to shortstop Carmen Angelini. Everth Cabrera doubled off 2nd.
Rasner is keeping them in the game that is all can expect from him.
Don’t like you walking people Rasner, but alright so far.
Get some runs and things might look better
http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....8;did=milb
Yaknow, from reading the comments alone, it sounded a lot worse than 1 run through 3 innings.
“Name calling. Nicely done. Showing class isn’t dead around here after all.”
Reread the post – I didn’t call you a name.
Is Daniel Cabrera up for the CY Young? Are the Yanks missing something on this guy who has had an 11ERA the past 2 starts?
last inning Cano up 3 and 1 count, I put the take on him.. he is so undisciplined and thinks there is only 1 way to get on base I put the take on him and Melky if they cannot show control which they cannot..
laugh at me, you need base runners and Cano just does not get it….
“Quit whining BBB.
Like we don’t get calls and bounces and gifts.”
Here’s hoping we get a couple tonight. Looks like we could use them.
Furthermore, why don’t you tell these people to stop whining:
“Great to see our hitters still struggling against mediocre pitchers.”
“Awful pitchers are so awesome against the Yanks.”
At least the things I’m saying are correct. I understand about the law of the averages, but find it rather frustrating that half the people on here seem not to even follow the game. They see a deficit in the runs column and assume the Yankees must be doing everything wrong, we suck, we’re doomed, etc. Kind of ridiculous.
Damon sure is talking a lot to Millar. I hope he’s telling him to stop hitting Yankees pitching.
Well I thought I’d report in to say that I am still a Yankee fan seeing that Ponson wasn’t DFA after the last Sux game! I’m also far from convinced that Ponson’s successful games have been “lucky”. Lucky is a word that you use when you’ve been expecting someone’s demise and it hasn’t happened!
Anyway, though I’m sure it will not be popular in Dodge, I am also predicting that Rasner is not going to be sent anywhere soon.
These things aren’t rocket science by the way but just an ability to read the way the Yankee organization operates! I really hate being pilloried for my opinion – especially, seriously, when it ends up being correct – but this isn’t an easy forum when posters are unhappy with the Yankees and someone has the nerve to support players who are down on their luck.
I hardly think Rasner should be sent away for giving up a run – actually he is pitching well for a back end of the rotation pitcher.
Meanwhile, the Angels are doing a nice job of keeping things moving so that we can move on up!
GO YANKEES!
is brian roberts a midget??????????
i didnt think damon was that big…but he just looked like a giant.
No wonder the average Joe doesn’t check out blogs. The amount of quitters and loons we got here is beyond amazing. You would think that Rasner was getting lit up and the offense hadn’t hit a lick in weeks.
They need to make this guy pay.
c’mon Bobby
Ugh….2 out hit needed here.
Come on, A-Rod! You are sooooooooo due!
THAT was a strike? (pitch 2 to Bobby)
Wes L – Be my friend!
TKinDC you are a gentleman and a scholar. We all should all strive to be as thoughtful and as petty as you.
“Come on, A-Rod! You are sooooooooo due!”
He got a hit in the 1st inning. Tough crowd.
More lack of luck in the Abreu AB. But lest I upset our friend panters, I’ll just assume that Daniel Cabrera is such a great pitcher, and so superior to the Yankee offense, that he managed to WILL that ball into Millar’s glove.
Isn’t trisha the same person who wanted Igawa to stay and pitch?
Ill be honest…if Arod walks, I dont feel too confident with Giambi up there….
Well Giambi time to step up… and get this team some runs..
Struck out some low a guys in the 2nd…such promise
here’s Phil
Some good news. Boston down 4-0.
Here comes a weak flyball to strand 3 runners. Giambino never fails!!
Crap. Giambi is up… Bases loaded and no runs.
Fingers crossed for Giambi but he has lost his swing. Don’t look for anything other than a walk.
Cabrera is a member of The Unbeatable Three. He, Oliver Perez and AJ Burnett could shutout the Yankees in a 5-game playoff series and hold them to maybe 7 hits over the 27 innings. It is ridiculous.
Well…Giambi is single-handedly killing us tonight. Did we need Mark Teixeira?
That shift is aggravating. Play your damn positions, lol.
Hey Fran! I got KILLED the other night on the blog for having the nerve to suggest that Ponson was not going to be run out of town because of his poor showing against the Sux. The howling hoardes who just KNEW he was going to be DFA went up one side and down telling me I was basically an idiot.
I think I learned a good lesson the other night. When the Yankees start to lose a game by a substantial number of runs, either trash every player on the Yankees or head for the hills. Since you will never catch me being shallow enough to stomp all over the head of a Yankee player who is having a bad game, I will just head for the hills.
By the way everyone, I still have faith in Sidney Ponson, believe he belongs in the rotation, and think he will continue to earn the very small amount of money the Yankee organization paid for him.
We cannot blow games to the likes of the Orioles with the Angels on their way in.
wow, can we get more unlucky in this game
The ‘stache has run its course…
Pavano 2IP 1 hit 4 ks
hey you know what previously available first baseman would not be 0-2 tonight in clutch situations?
at least there is hope if Rasner can keep it close
the yankees need to call up Ian Kennedy. hes pitching good again.
i hate that shift…it should be illegal.. W/O the shift giambi’s batting avg and rbi’s would be much higher.
Giambi has been killing the yanks lately with runners LOB.
“Isn’t trisha the same person who wanted Igawa to stay and pitch?”
You betcha. Actually one bad call out of all of the calls I’ve made is quite good statistically!
more clutch hitting from the multi millionaires..
unbeleivable… they cannot score runs this year…….
Giambi has been awful lately. He has left 5 baserunners on this game.
Hey Trisha
Pavano 2IP 1H and 4K’s
Time to swtich Giambi and Cano in the batting order.. and come on its a great opportunity for the yanks to make ground up
dammit
Cabrera is living on borrowed time. Yanks are getting some good swings on him. He cant get lucky all night….
Does Millar hit against anyone else besides the Yanks?
“at least there is hope if Rasner can keep it close”
There’s hope will get shutout and held to 6 hits.
I don’t normally rant and rave on here but we need something to be done! Richie Sexson and Jason Giambi at first base, or MARK TEXEIRA?!?! We need pitchers too, call IPK up and give him a chance! Better than Ponson! Stop this game of chicken and get Washburn, he’s pitching well and has AL experience.
Thanks.
On this Tex trade–Methinks the Angels have stuffed too many toes in one shoe.
We’re notorious for doing that and it usually gets us nowhere.
Now they can see if the addition of another all star bat inspires the rest of the team to hit or starts the awful habit of everyone on the team waiting for the next guy to do it that we’ve seen here.
It hasn’t worked for us or Detroit. I have a feeling it may not work for the Angels.
And as for Giambi, he’s pretty bad again right now. I don’t understand the up and down swings with him. He’s costing us runs with the bat and that needs to stop.
Kevin Millar…THATS who we should have traded for. This is why hitting with runners in scoring position will just be the end of this team. I dont get this team. 8 wins in a row, 2 FLAT losses…and again, looking flat tonight. I just dont know who this falls on?
thank you, millar
Really knocked the crap out of that one.
Pete – we need a counter on this site – # of days until Giambi, Damon, Pavano, Abreu are gone.
I don’t understand why they can’t figure out how to pitch this guy. What is the rest of the league doing? He’s frackin’ hitting below .250!
Rasner is awful.
I just threw up in my mouth.
dang it
Well that wasn’t helpful. Cabrera is dying to give up some runs though, book it.
“Cabrera is living on borrowed time. Yanks are getting some good swings on him. He cant get lucky all night….”
You obviously haven’t been watching the Yankees this season. The offense is that bad.
And our pitching is stupid. Keep pitching Millar away.
IPK Kennedy so far 3IP 1H 1R 3BB 2K 2.25
Giambi had one good month.
We’ve had a black hole at 1b since 2002.
“Pavano 2IP 1H and 4K’s”
Which is why I say pitch him until his arm falls off
The answer is starting pitching PLUS Kevin Millar to play 1st for us!!
The Yanks looked like world-beaters…they look absolutely awful right now. I just don’t get it. I am at a loss.
I guess I missed it, but when did we sign Zambrano? Last I heard, he was just “trying out” for teams.
Another scoreless inning from Glass Carl!
Darin Holcomb called out on strikes.
Kevin Clark doubles (19) on a ground ball to right fielder Austin Krum.
Brian Rike strikes out swinging.
Helder Velazquez strikes out swinging.
i hate that shift…it should be illegal..
Having an offense like the Yankees should be illegal.
Having Giambi, Cabrera, Damon, Abreu, Moeller, Betemit as your hitters should be illegal.
“Come on, A-Rod! You are sooooooooo due!â€
He got a hit in the 1st inning. Tough crowd.”
Yes, a hit that didn’t drive in any runs. He’s due for a monster shot that brings in multiple runs.
why do bottom dwellers beat the yanks. and seriosuly what is with these calls by the ump? its so obviosu the catcher is moving the ball 3 ft and still gets that call
aaaggg
how can our offense be so schizo..
it shouldnt be a surprise, but when a team has issues all year, you cant rely on them to just turn it on all of a sudden.
better or worse, this is the pathetic offense we have all year.
And we face Burres tomorrow. Pretty good chance we’ll lose again.
Don’t blame Rasner. The dude was cut by Wash for christsakes. Blame IPK and Hughes for stinking. Blame Cash for not getting Haren or Santana.
Outs Rasner. We need 3 outs. You can do this
michelle: is why NYY have been begging him for years, to use the entire field (like in oakland). This year, he started to do it. A contract year.
Bucholz hasn’t been the same since he pitched that no hitter. BOS may replace him with Bartolo Colon when he gets healthy.
hmm, i SERIOUSLY dont wanna jinx it, Red Sox are being no hit through 5th.
Has anyone actually watched any of Kennedy’s outing? How does he look? 3 BB in 3 IP are kind of a lot, is he nibbling?
Burres is not starting tomorrow. They named some other dude who is a rookie, and will make the Yankees look stupid.
Only the Yanks make Millar look like Don Mattingly. And Cabrera look like Nolan Ryan.
The ‘Stache was great, but it may have reached its expiration date.
Ok, enough with the Pavano updates. He is pitching in class A.
He is a pussy who cannot handle AAA or higher. he will conveniently pull a tooth or strain his tonsils while brushing his teeth just as you would expect him to help the Yankees.
The ONLY thing he has done for the Yankees is helped them become familiar on how to fill out insurance forms to cover his sorry arse.
Seriously, he needs to retire to Florida and live with OJ.
The Orioles are pitching Dennis Sarfate tomorrow, not Brian Burres. I’m a birds fan (sorry) and Burres has been awful, so I guess we’re gonna see if the bullpen can do it by themselves. I’m not hopeful.
BBB I agree that we are due to get to Cabrera.
I think it looks like Rasner is getting squeezed some of the time. Also, I don’t know that I consider 2 runs over 4 innings “terrible.” For a 5th starter, it’s certainly what you’re asking for.
“i hate that shift…it should be illegal.. ”
Question for anyone who is also an NBA fan, especially those that have had Shaq on your team: what’s more annoying, the Giambi shift or the Hack A Shaq?
I wonder if they’ll leave Pavano in for the complete game to see if he can get to 18 Ks. He’s on pace for that with 4 Ks thru 2 IP. Go GLASS CARL!!!!!!!!!
Kennedy is the savior??
Did anyone watch him pitch when he was here???
He’s Rasner but with more excuses.
Rasner is consistently missing with his FB up in the zone. And by FB I mean that 85mph pitch that doesn’t move a whole lot.
All right Rasner.
come on Yankees. Down 2 runs, not 20. Do something
WE HAVE TWO FITH STARTERS.. HENCE WE NEED A 4th starter..
is there a trade market for pavano?????
here is my offer
we give SEA: Kennedy, A Mid-Level above avg Pitching Prospect (not hughes or melcanon) , and Gardner/Melky
for Washburn and Ichiro
i would do this trade in a second.
Dont worry, september rotation Pavano-Milton-Joba-Brackman-Pettitte.
I would agree that we are due to get to Cabrera if we didnt swing at the first pitch (like Cano just did), and our bottom third looked like 3 pitchers batting.
Question for anyone who is also an NBA fan, especially those that have had Shaq on your team: what’s more annoying, the Giambi shift or the Hack A Shaq?
Shack has won 4 titles.
Wow…they even had a Carl Pavano graphic.
The Shift.
At least Shaq understands its coming and dishes the ball.
Giambi sees the shift and THINKS he is still the hitter he use to be and can hit past it.
For all the accolades he received as a hitter, he has become a very bad hitter with the Yankees. Tries to do too much, doesn’t use the field, tries to pull everything, just sad.
Nice AB Robbie. Guess your streak is over. Say hello to .225
Great job CanO!!!!!!!! Nice first pitch hacking.
If Pavano ever turned into a real pitcher I’d take him in a heartbeat.
cano swings at the first pitch.. he is just such a friggin MORON…
We’ll come around….never give up, all !
YankeeVIP: Mariners ownership blocks that trade AND fires their interim GM
4 IP/2 runs…I’ll take that pace from Rasner, though I don’t like pitching to Millar, ever again.
YankeeVIP July 29th, 2008 at 8:22 pm
here is my offer
we give SEA: Kennedy, A Mid-Level above avg Pitching Prospect (not hughes or melcanon) , and Gardner/Melky
for Washburn and Ichiro
i would do this trade in a second.
There should be a basic IQ test before you can post here.
i’m watching the game but not reading the posts b/c it has just gotten so bad when the boys are losing. i do miss enjoying the game with a few on here but the negative stuff just makes it miserable.
2 runs in 4 innings isnt bad for rasner, if he can get out without giving up 2 more ill be happy. cabrera doesn’t have the stuff he usually bring vs the yanks but for some reason we cant get to him yet.
Let’s Go Yankees!!!!!
from Chad Jennings
Bottom third: Kennedy looks alright. Not bad, not great. Through three innings he’s walked three, committed an error and thrown a wild pitch. That said, the only hit of the night was an infield single on a ball that was thrown past Juan Miranda when Miranda lost it in the sunlight (it’s shining right in his face from the third base line).
A walk, wild pitch, sac bunt and sac fly have put the Chiefs on the board this inning, tying the game at 1.
http://theblogofchampions.com/?p=155
They took Pavano out?? I’m outraged! Now they have to sweat out the next 120 hours or so and hope that he doesn’t get his leg stuck in the garbage disposal or injure his pelvis in a late-night Kabbalah ritual.
Cy Young Cabrera is throwing a 3 hitter. Are you freakin kidding me?
Every Yankee hitter should be fined 2 paychecks for impersonating a Yankee baseball player.
THE GROUNDBALL OUT IS NOW CALLED THE MELKY CABRERA!
“OH CRAP HE GROUNDED INTO A MELKY CABRERA!”
4 insipiring innings from this sack of sh-t…
how many guys has he been 2 and 0 and the yanks do crap??????
this is another ugly ugly outing from the multi millionaires..
again when is Giambi going to get the venom???/WHat the hell has he done all year with RISP.. Mora has more RBI”S then him, friggin melvin Mora..
Typical Melky…either a pop-up to left or a grounder to a middle-infielder. When does anyone start to question his playing time? These guys look like hacks, again…another game where they just look like they dont want to be there. I wonder what excuses Girardi will have if they lose this one…
Both the Hack-A-Shaq and the S.S. (Stache Shift) give you free shots. At times it’s hard to say what’s worse to watch, Giambi try to go the other way or Shaq hit a free throw.
At least when Giambi got hot he was drilling the ball into the left center field gap.
It looks like that Yankee swagger left town like a thief in the night.
“i’m watching the game but not reading the posts b/c it has just gotten so bad when the boys are losing. i do miss enjoying the game with a few on here but the negative stuff just makes it miserable.”
Cry me a river. STart your own blog with your buddies. It’s a free country and more than you like the Yanks and Pete.
NoEye-
The answer to your question is obviously all you need to be happy is starting pitching!!
Latka Gravis[Andy Kaufman] once said- All you need in this world to be happy are friends. If you have friends you be happy.
Well if you have a nice big house with a pool and friends you be very happy.
Well also if you have a cool car, and a nice big house with a pool and friends, you be very happy.
Well if you have a beautiful girl too. Lets see, if you have a nice big house with a pool, a cool car, and a beautiful girl, YOU DON’T NEED FRIENDS TO BE HAPPY!!!
The moral of this twisted story is we need PITCHING TO BE HAPPY!!
The shift is worse; Hack-a-Shaq at least still burns personal fouls, so there’s an end (at least hypothetically…) to it. Shift’s a freebie.
I hate this Melky bashing.. not here to hit.. the person we should be bashing is giambi right now he has not come through tonight with runners in scoring position..
Once again Melky is here to field and cover ground in the outfield bc our corner outfielders do not have great range
Leave melky a lone fan club
Cabrera will pitch a shutout. Who doubted it? We cannot hit him.
Folks. I thought you all were smarter than that. Pavano is going to dominate for the next 2 months. Get a fat paycheck somewhere and then go on the shelf yet again. It was in the plans all along. Biggest heist ever!!
What offense is O’Neill talking about, that is going to appear for the Yankees?
“this is another ugly ugly outing from the multi millionaires..”
Melky, Rasner, Moeller don’t make millions.
If you really are going to rant about the salaries of PRO athletes you should just watch the Staten Island Yankees.
“Folks. I thought you all were smarter than that. Pavano is going to dominate for the next 2 months. Get a fat paycheck somewhere and then go on the shelf yet again. It was in the plans all along. Biggest heist ever!!”
If he can dominate for us in september, I wouldn’t mind at all. He can go collect his paycheck somewhere else when the season is over.
Leave Melky Alone Fan Club,
There are good defenders who can hit too.
Hughes threw 2 innings 0 runs 1 BB 1 hit which was scrathed away with a double play Hughes threw mostly fastball with about 2 curves fastball sat around 93 mph hit 92 but stood at 92-93
John..
I really hope you dont think that is to much to give up for washburn and ichiro..
hell, ill throw Horne or Marquez into that equation. Even that betanice kid we have.
this offense is pathetic and anemic. i guy like ichiro would be perfect.
hit 94 i mean
time to wake up!
Leave Melky ALone Fan CLub says he is not supposed to be the hitter on this team.. That would be Giambi Arod Cano and Jeter get on those guys.. I am doing my job and that fielding and make great plays every night
Nice job by Rasner.
How cool that Lackey is still no hitting the Sux. (It’s the 6th inning so I can say it.)
score some runs.
this game is well within reach – how about some offense people???
Not too bad for a lousy 5th starter. 5innings 2 runs. If only our offense can remember that theres a game today. We’d be o.k.
Well like it or not Rasner has done his job. 2 runs on 6 hits.
If he wasn’t the only person who showed up to play tonight, this would be perfect pitching to win a game.
Bet he would have a winning record with any other team that has an offense = that would any team not called NY Yankees.
Lackey dominating them sox!!1
you guys all make good points about the Hack A Shaq vs Giambi Shift, but I still don’t think I can settle on which one I hate more. I will say I think the Hack a Shaq is a cheaper move on the part of opponents than the shift.
Shaq is also better at adjusting to it when it really counts. I remember him hitting some big FT’s for the Heat in the Finals, holding my breath the whole time. I’d be surprised to hear that Giambi ever beat the shift in one single playoff AB.
“There are good defenders who can hit too.”
Not currently sitting on the Yankees bench who can play CF so you support who you got.
Phil walked off littler gingerly but besides a hanging curve & an unwillingness to get first pitch strikes looked good against minor leaguers
Damon could always cover ground and still can. He just has s*** for an arm.
Nady in left, Damon in center, and Abreu in right is the best balance of defense and offense that we can put together.
Melky just isn’t hitting and it hurts to have Nady out of the lineup tonight.
Not a good way to welcome a guy, who JUST found his swing for us, to his new team. After his homerun last night, we bench him. c’mon joe. I love Melky as much as the next guy, but he needs to be sitting tonight.
This is getting frustrating. I want the Yankees to rock this guy.
2 IP, 14 pitches, 0 R, 1 BB, 1 H, 0 Ks for Phil Hughes tonight.
cwebzzz I’m with you on Melky. Not every player on the Yankees is amazing with both the bat and the glove. Hopefully Melky will come around and start hitting consistently but in the meantime his defense is probably responsible for keeping the Yankees in games when the offense is struggling! I wouldn’t give him up for anything.
Wouldn’t it be funny if we didn’t make a trade, Hughes sucked, IPK Sucked, Wang didn’t come back…. and we called up Pavano.. and he OWNED FACE for the rest of the season and we made the playoffs because of him… and then owned face in the playoffs?
…..
..
.
Wishful thinking? lol!
Daniel Cabrera is the best pitcher…ever.
You know, a little bit of offense would be kind of nice.
But apparently I’m dreaming.
Hey, at least Jeter can’t DP again?
Damon needs hgh to play cf again
Hughes coming out for his 3rd inning
Oneil is dumb, Great abat it was two picthes
Phil Hughes is going out for the 3rd inning.
Kevin
Preach it, Paulie – calling out the offense about not going back into a funk, that this team can’t afford to go through a bad stretch at this point in the season. Go Angels lol.
Hmm, Rasner’s at 92 pitches….if he can throw another inning, great. If not, 5 IP/2 runs is still a fine job coming from a 4th/5th starter.
…although, it would be nice for the bats to stop getting owned by Daniel Cabrera.
That graphic about Abreu surprised me. I wonder how many at bats that was for.
Guthrie and Cabrera = better than Ponson and Rasner?
Mora, Scott, Millar, Hernandez = better than Giambi, Cano, Cabrera, Betemit, Moeller,
interesting
yanks should complain about this ump
That was quick work.
“Phil walked off littler gingerly”
Are you saying he left the game hurt?
Cabrera gave up 7 runs in both of his last two starts and somehow the Yankees can’t hit him. :/
So Lackey is currently throwing a game where no Boston hitter has gotten on base other than by walks (if you know what I mean)…runs would be good right about now (at least work the freaking count!)
THIS IS AN UTTER JOKE… girardi yell and rant at this team come on,.. stop sitting there.. get this team hitting.. what are u doing a torre now? your are a different person then him.. start scream throw a fit.. get this team going..holy god
When it’s not the hitters, it’s the umpires.
Hey Rish, you can say the words after the 5th inning. Why, who knows? But that’s the “rule”..
The Yanks can make the most average pitcher look so tremendously good, it is ridiculous.
Looks like Joba’s going to have to throw another shutout tomorrow . . .
anyone remember how many we lost in a row after winning 7 straight.
tonight’s loss makes it 3 in a row after winning 8
Guthrie and Cabrera = we’ll pitch well against the Yankees and roll over for everyone else.
This is so frustrating.
Owned face. I like it. Man i guess im getting old.
Phil is not hurt.lol….he is pitching at this very moment.
Geeze I don’t think we’re going to lose tonight!
Cabrera is pitching a 3 hit shutout on us, and Lackey is pitching a no-hitter against the Angels. Boy, this may get real ugly when the Angels come to town.
I think its time to go up and in to Millar. Hell hit him!!
At least Rasner is showing some guts…thats more I can say than for the rest of the team.
It’s interesting…I was listening on the radio, and Suzyn said that she had been talking to a Baltimore beat writer (I think, or a coach) who said that he only pitched this well against the Yanks and Tampa. Go figure.
Let’s see-We have about 100 million worth of talent batting 1-9 tonight, more money than probably 90% of the payrolls in baseball, and we couldn’t get Jeter home from third.
Shameful waste of the bosses money.
By the way Kevin Millar is a FA, and currently is killing us and way better than that gas guzzling [ I mean 23M$$$$ guzzling] 1st baseman we have now.
GREAT job by Rasner. Makes you wonder how many more wins we might have right now if Girardi had only put Moeller rather than Jorge behind the damned dish!
Trisha: I hope the Yankees pull something through offensively.
Rasner has been great tonight. The Yankees could not have possibly asked for more from him.
Jason Giambi has almost single handedly killed the ight’s offense.
That said, it’s two runs an four innings to go.
We’re in this.
I said on Sunday that the Yanks were primed for a letdown or “Boston hangover” against the Orioles because it always seems that way after they play the Red Sox.
A lot of people thought I was nuts for even suggesting such a thing.
After watching these first two games, it’s not such a crazy theory after all.
This is nothing new for the Yanks.
Wait, I’m sorry, were nine innings already played? I must have fallen asleep. They lost? Wow. Fast game.
Daniel Cabrera is one lucky scrub. That Jeter double was so close. I know everybody immediately wants to get all excited about how great Cabrera is and how he owns us, but he absolutely hasnt done anything special tonight. Made a couple of good pitches where he needed them, but nowhere near his usual showing against the Yanks. Just sayin. Hopefully some plays will start bouncing in our favor soon.
Meanwhile, Roy Halladay is a choker and a half against Tampa! And nice inning there from Ras.
Final line for Phil Hughes: 3IP 2H 1BB 0ER 1K
Hey look! We cut the lead in half!
nice job ARod….
Tricia – I’m trying not to jinx him
(and I hate ever saying the words unless I’m trying to end it)…
I would love to figure out a way to get the freaking offense going
Hughes threw 3 innings 0 Runs 1 K, 1 Walk 2 hits hardest ball was hit of the wall,ball looked gone of the bat but runner ended up at third and Hughes retired the next batter with a fly ball to right
Why can’t he do that w/ RISP
Ok A-Rod. In case people were curious, Hughes went a 3rd inning and gave up one hit (a triple), no walks, no runs while striking out one
YES!!
Actually Guthrie isn’t a bad pitcher at all. He doesn’t have a bad ERA. He obviously hasn’t had a lot of luck with run support.
wow, Adam Jones leaped really high up on the walk.
ANNNNN A-BOMB FROM A-ROD!
Let’s Go Yankees!
Kevin
Just joining. A Rod is good huh?
….what?! A homer?!
Bbbut….Daniel Cabrera is the best pitcher EVER!!!
hey – what do you know – an actual run
That’s ARod for ya, another home run with no one aboard.
Rishi – cool. I’ll keep the faith with you if it helps Lackey do his thing!
Not that I’m ungrateful or anything, but WTF was that with runners on?
Nice. Keep it going, guys.
A ROD!!!!!!!!!
As bad as Baltimore may be overall, their offense isn’t too shabby (6th in the AL)…and more importantly, better than ours. 6 innings/2 run effort by Rasner against them? Good job.
And just as I was about to insult the offense again, A-Rod smacks a homer. Thanks, Alex.
Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Johan HR count: *18) (X-factor my ***)
July 29th, 2008 at 8:49 pm
Why can’t he do that w/ RISP
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cause abreu whiffed.
was giambi just giving someone the finger?
See it really makes no sense to give up in a 2-run game where the Yankees have gotten to the pitcher for hits!
now you get a hit, Giambi? where were you 2 ABs ago?
Giambi…no runners on that time? Oh…then it would have been an out.
Hughes was only scheduled to throw 20 pitches. There’s nothing wrong with him.
Also, people need to stop being critical of the offense. Yeah, they haven’t been getting hits tonight, but they’ve hit a lot of balls hard right at people. Abreu’s was the worst. They’ll turn it around
LMAO at Big G -
Flipping off the other team – but in a nice way!
Tell me someone else saw that? lol?
giambi nice finger…Yanks #1
wow, Adam Jones leaped really high up on the walk.
It was as if he was saying “no I can catch this it may be 15 feet over my head but I can catch this”.
“Meanwhile, Roy Halladay is a choker and a half against Tampa! And nice inning there from Ras.”
1 run in 6 and 2/3? Ill take that choker on my team anyday.
ROFL
…when Giambi gave Roberts the finger!
Cano..back to swinging at the first pitch every time. How many pitches has he seen tonight?
Oy, Robbie, you’re not supposed to kill the…
…smacking the water cooler, eh? You got a little O’Neil in you yet.
UGH @ CANO
vito i saw it too. it was either at roberts, the shift or millar.
First pitch…don’t ya know
Nice… Robbie is back to normal.
anybody that thinks Robi doesn’t have any heart saw it right there.
No pinch runner for Jason?
It was as if he was saying “no I can catch this it may be 15 feet over my head but I can catch thisâ€.
nice one brandon. lol
hmm, Cano looks mad.
Does someone not get in the ear of Cano and Cabrera about those at-bats? I mean, this is a guy who can’t throw strikes and they swing at everything. Same now for Betemit…great offensive switch to take Nady out.
Cano has fallen back into his old habits and he knows it. Somebody call his Dad!!
wow giambi gave the finger i guess because of the shift, i went back on my tivo and saw it lol
“Also, people need to stop being critical of the offense. Yeah, they haven’t been getting hits tonight, but they’ve hit a lot of balls hard right at people. Abreu’s was the worst. They’ll turn it around”
Yep.
lead off HR… single….
then, suck suck suck suck suck suck…
Oh well 1 run is not quite the mountain that 2 runs are, I hope.
Hey, what happened? We needed one more.
Angels really handing it to the Sux.
i had to rewind…but that finger was definitely directed towards roberts….hahah funny as hell – suprised o’neill didnt catch it.
mel: Not in the sixth.
Also, people need to stop being critical of the offense. Yeah, they haven’t been getting hits tonight, but they’ve hit a lot of balls hard right at people. Abreu’s was the worst. They’ll turn it around
2009 doesn’t count.
mel
Sounding a little ungrateful. 2-2 with a BB not good enough for ya’?
wow.. a run. YEAH
SoS – ok, choker is a bit of an exxageration, but if the score holds up this will be his 2nd straight defeat at Tampa’s hands. Their offense isnt THAT good. And he gave up an inside the parker to Eric Hinske?
I’d just appreciate him showing the same exact dominance when it comes time to help us as he does when it comes time to hurt us, that’s all.
Rasner still in @ 100 pitches-do the Orioles score this inning to break the game open?
who’s warming/coming in for Rasner?
vlad just robbed ortiz….
pat,
You don’t know the half of it. I so want this losing streak to end…
I’m thinking I’d love to see Marte in sooner rather than later. Rasner has done everything we’ve asked and more. So we gotta hold it here.
Rishi, it appears to be Marte.
Random thoughts on this offense…
- Why is Nady not playing today? He got his first hit as a Yank last night…and he is not jinxed by Cabrera like the rest of the team (ahem…besides A-rod). When was the last time Abreu got some time off?
- Robbie Cano seems to have cooled off already?
- I am so ready for Giambi to be gone in 2009. The ‘stache thing was fun while is lasted but the stache without hitting stinks.
and lackey is through the 7th
lackey 2 outs in the bottom of the 7th…
Ortiz to the wall but no luck… manny getting booed for not running out a ground ball that could have been an infield hit.
and that is it 7 inning no hits.
manny just blew the sox chance to break up the no hitter but trotted on a hard grounder to third, the 1st basemen had enough time to jump up and come down on the bag ahead of the trotting ramirez.
lackey still has a no hitter through 7 now
By the way, the 7th inning has ended in Boston…
Thanks, Tricia…I’m not watching on TV (following on gameday/ESPN)
ughh sonofa…
I think this is Ras’ last batter. Marte will come in for the lefties. Ras has done a good job tonight. Really can’t ask for tooo much more from your 5th starter, B’more is a good hitting team too.
Marte coming in.
for some reason I’d like to see Molina in for Moeller here too.
Okay, that BARELY grazed Jones. Just shake it off you pansy!!
An awful job by Girardi letting Rasner go back out. 6 innings, 2 runs, 95 pitches was more than you could have asked for some Rasner and having go back out at his limit to face the top of the order is ridiculous. Now the Orioles are a hit away from ending the game.
No hitter by Lackey top of seventh one out, Manny hits a sharp ground down the line at third. Figgins gets it makes the throw and gets Manny by a couple of steps. Fans boo Manny as he trots into dugout.
He ran a little more than half speed.
Good evening all!
Rasner gave us a good effort…that makes two decent starts in a row I believe…hopefully Marte shuts ‘em down…
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
who saw that one coming
Thanks Girardi.
Oy, Yankee pitching, the idea, when your team scores a run, is to keep the other team from doing the same.
Oy
“And he gave up an inside the parker to Eric Hinske?”
LOL BBB. Maybe you should be mad at the defense not Halliday. Cause im sure they wouldnt have allowed us to get an inside the park. Conspiracy i tell ya.
I HATE MICHAEL KAY!
IT…IS… a foul ball.
can we trrade for aubry huff….
game over.
This is depressing.
That a rod is a bastard for sure…how dare he hit a home run with no one on,leading of the inning no less
Wow…the Baltimore Orioles are champions of the world.
Well, it’s just been that kind of week.
I think I want Karstens back.
Sweep
what the hell happened tonight.. team is a joke.. team sucks.. team is freaking awful.. hey girardi rip this team up .. what are we doing.. ahhh
I think Marte is a little shaken up. Of course the Bronx cheer isn’t always a pleasant thing.
Ugh.
Oh no
Good night. Done and Done.
See what i was saying about an unreliable bullpen?
gn we come back so be it but i am not a yankee fan.. have a good night yall
I really, really, really want Karstens back.
We traded Jeff Karstens for this guy?
Another a$$ wippen handed to us.
TB is beating Halladay.
there goes the yankees “great bullpen”
Do we not want to win the division i mean come on!
The Yankees just roll over for the Orioles. What the heck. This is a depressing day.
These O’s are really good hitters.
I didn’t expect to lose three in a row but I’d be interested in seeing how long we seem to stay down after Sux series…
3 baserunners allowed this inning after an 0-2 count. No excuse for that.
I said I’d take Moeller out of this game first. Molina has a rep w/ him.
Here is where stats can be misleading. Rasner gave a credible 6 innings 2 runs, but got in trouble in the 7th and the bullpen lets in the runs and suddenly it looks like he had a bad start.
This is Marte’s third game in a row pitching for us. Got to wonder if it’s affected his stuff somewhat.
Great 7th inning bullpen!
The Orioles have playing like this against us for years. It is unbelievable.
Her’s a trade Yankees would like to make if not in the same league as Boston. Marte and Nady for Manny!!
LOL. I don’t care what happens. I don’t want Karstens back. He wasn’t going to see daylight in the Bronx.
Hmm, later. Time for all the usual suspects to show up – it can only deteriorate from here.
Too late to be sellers?
What the heck is hapening in the stands?
you know whats yankees problem they always sign or trade player that dont have no post season track record..they barely have a player that won a world series with a different team. they have some losers on their team thats what they have..
The 8 game win streak was a mirage.
A total mirage.
We never had the pitching to win anything.
Congrats you bunch of overpaid quitters. You are model baseball players, for sure. Suck every dime from your owner, suck on the field, quit before the first pitch is thrown.
Disgusting.
I am a loyal yankee fan but I hope they get the crap beat out of them by the Angels. This is just stupid, stupid, stupid
“Cause im sure they wouldnt have allowed us to get an inside the park.”
An inside the parker?! Rios won’t even let us go 1st to 3rd on a long single!
conspiracy indeed, lol.
Oh well, at least Boston is losing. Tampa is playing about 5 games over their head according to their XWL, so I think they’ll come back to earth sooner or later, where Boston is actually probably playing below their ability right now. So I’m more concerned with hanging close to them.
lackey thru 8 — no hits
Tough to get down on Marte for one bad outing hey?
Did everyone hear that… sounded like a broom sweeping the Yankees.
What happened in the stands? YES never shows the fun stuff
Ya Gotta Believe.
Never, Never Give Up.
Update from Fenway: Thanks to Manny not running out a hit to third, Lackey has not given up a hit throug 8 innings
This team has no fire and clearly no ambition.
In other, better news:
3 outs away in Boston
Can we get Karstens back?
I’ll give Nady and Marte.
We could have had Texiera and not have ruined the chemistry of our bullpen.
Sigh.
Could we possibly find a way to screw things up more? They don’t know how lucky they’re getting by Boston and Tampa sucking at ths same time.
Hey Girardi, here’s an idea, put your STARTERS into the game. Here’s another: DON’T PITCH TO MILLAR.
Geez.
And one more: stop flying out every freakin at bat.
well so much for that..
pathetic
Lackey no no through eight.
It won’t be as much fun if the Yankees can’t whip out a miracle.
The reality is, what we are seeing here is what we have been seeing the past 4-5 years in the playoffs. Offense completely getting dominated by starting pitching. Our attempt to run the pitch count up of the opposing pitcher and 1 of 2 things happening 1) the pitcher is aggressive and starts every batter 0-1 leading to very little hits in the game or 2) we run the starting pitcher out of there after he goes 5 innings with no runs and then we continue to get dominated by the bullpen. 1 is happening right now.
so what if we loose u want karstens instead of marte r u kidding me? every one has a bad outing atleast his is now its still july not even agusut 1st yet marte is a beast he gives up some runs all of a sudden you want karstens in if he came in struck out the side you’d be saying jeff who?
No Hitter at Fenway. Sox are a disgrace to the MLB.
through 8 and no hits….
It is almost like Lackey is pitching in both the Bronx and Boston. Wow he is awesome.
This is all so depressing…
The stinkin O’s cabrera this makes no sense this team horrible vs other teams…
“I am a loyal yankee fan but I hope they get the crap beat out of them by the Angels. This is just stupid, stupid, stupid”
You should have put the second sentence before the first. Would have been just about right.
Once again we’re lucky that the Sux are losing the same day we are. It isn’t the way we want to do it but it’s better than having them win.
Agree that this will hurt Rasner’s line when he really had a very good game.
I’m not feeling down about our chances because I truly don’t think that the Rays will be able to sustain the rest of the season. That’s my opinion anyway.
Maybe we have a big comeback in us tonight?
In any event, I am going to definitely be switching to the Sux game very soon!
the haters come out with every loss….typical. I Guess Boston has no fire either right? Cant win em all. Baltimore has always been a problem. Never expect good things vs them. lol
Did we trade for Felix Heredia or Marte. Cause he looks like Heredia right now.
And I get to watch Rasner (if he’s still around) v. Lackey on Sunday (if i’m counting correctly) — fun, fun
“Never, Never Give Up.”
I’m with ya.
We need a nice little Yankee miracle
OK im totally sick of this crap about we could have had texeira…blah blah blah…
WE COULD NOT HAVE HAD TEX….if you read the reports the braves wanted a MLB READY 1st baseman in return. The Yankees could not do that…
just thankful that Boston is getting thrashed as well tonight…but these losses stink :
Lose 2 out of 3 AT KC
Lose 2 out of 3 AT Balt.
Lose all 3 AT HOME against Detroit
Lose 2 out of 3 AT HOME vs CLE
Lose 3 out of 4 AT TBay
Lose 2 games AT HOME vs Mets
Lose 2 out of 3 AT Balt.
Lose 2 out of 3 AT HOME against Cincy
Lose 2 out of 3 AT HOME vs Texas
Lose 2 out of 3 AT Toronto
After winning 8 of first 9 games after All-Star break:
Lose first 2 games AT HOME vs. Balt.
.
It just is NOT a good team that plays like this.
Baltimore is NOT a good team. Kevin Millar is NOT a good hitter. The Yankees are NOT a good team if they continue to put up CRAP like this and it will simply be another first round exit from the playoffs IF they sneak in again, because they don’t meet Tampa, Toronto, Baltimore, KC, etc. in the playoffs…they meet a FLIPPIN’ PLAYOFF TEAM ! And they just aint up to it.
They had trouble putting 1 run, there is no chance in hell we comeback to win this game. That inning is like a punch to the nuts.
Ruin the chemistry of the bullpen?
Yeah, I thought I saw Mariano and Edwar out there looking for more beakers and test tubes, to replace the broken ones.
Once again we’re lucky that the Sux are losing the same day we are
why is that good. We are now 4 games behind Tampa, made no ground on Boston, only 5.5 ahead of Toronto, still tied with Minnesota for 3rd in the WC.
How exactly is it good the Red Sox are losing? So the Yankees and them can all sit around and have a beer together while Tampa wins the division and the Angels win another WS?
mother heffalumper
Nobody actually wants Karstens back.
It’s just a statement.
This Marte guy is supposed to be great.
And look… Karstens could have done better than he did tonight.
Damnit Joe. Take your starters out when they’re finished! You’re acting like Francona. That’s the last thing we need.
wow…that pitch is well off the plate…nice call, you blind jerk !
its not over till its over
why isn’t THAT a strike if the 1st pitch to Melky was ?
its over
What really sucks is, I suspect they are gonna go down relatively easily now. No fight, no grinding out ABs, etc. I hope they prove me wrong but…
OK lets all pull together and send some hot white light to our team. I want you all close your eyes and picture a come from behind victory. See the walk off home run beleive it, feel it. Yes!
Why do they do this? 2 game loss, fine, take a break from winning. but now, this is like undoing everything they’ve done the last 2 weeks. c’mon guys
Corey
July 29th, 2008 at 9:14 pm
the haters come out with every loss….typical. I Guess Boston has no fire either right? Cant win em all. Baltimore has always been a problem. Never expect good things vs them. lol
Especially when you don’t show up to play. Can’t win em all, is there a more asinine saying. That is the equivalent of thanking God for a hit and slamming your helmit on an out.
I guess the Yankees can’t go all season without getting a hit when RISP.
Oh no wait, game 106, same as game 3, 4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13…..100,101,102,103,104,105
“How exactly is it good the Red Sox are losing?”
Well if you’re a glass half full person you see it as not losing any ground. If you’re a glass half empty person then I can’t help you with the answer seeing I’m not a glass half empty person!
2 or 3 runs would be nice
I just logged into the gameday — what the heck is this lineup –
not that it matters now
The nonsesne on texiera — he is a Boras client and a rental — the only way you can trade for him is if you get the long term contract you desire as the GM
Tex will wait to the offseason — BorASS — has to recover the jewels he left on the castration table after the ARon surgery
Ellsbury, Pedroia, Youkilis in the bottom of the 9th. ESPN’s going to cut to it.
Just think- the schedule gets much tougher from here on out!
This winning streak looks like an aberration.
Maybe there’s time to trade Abreu , Farnsworth Mussina for some better prospects now than what we’d get in draft picks.
Oh well tomorrow is another day!! Good night.
no pinch run?
wow…Damon beat out a potential GIDP…so Jeter can…?
“Meanwhile, Marte is getting rocked and this game is all but over.”
If a 1-6 game against the O’s at home w/ 9 outs left is so easily viewed as over then we’ve gotta start thinking about next year.
Karstens is now better than Marte?
Really, go to bed before writing any more nonsense.
Did you feel that way when he struck out Oritz on Saturday?
When your offense can’t score, its tough to blame Rasner or the bullpen for not keeping it close.
They are facing Daniel Cabrera, not Cy Young.
There is nothing wrong with the “chemistry” of the bullpen.
This team can’t hit, as they haven’t hit for most of this season.
When they don’t hit, they don’t win. Until they hit, they will keep losing.
You can’t expect to win 1-0 games every night in the AL.
I guess my 7-0 shutout from Cabrera is a little off. But not by much.
We can’t beat Cabrera. It happens.
Is it bad that I switched to the Angels game? I’d rather see that than see another pathetic showing from the yanks.
LAA BOS is now on ESPN.
The reason why we suck:
Giambi .250
Cano .265
Betemit .248
Cabrera .248
Moeller .230
Daniel Cabrera has won 1 of his last 6 games and has an ERA above 4.5. Pathetic doesn’t even begin to describe…
Trisha – I’m with you. Of course I want the Yanks to win, but if they don’t, it makes it better to not loose ground to a team.
i am so ^&%$%ing mad at this team’s lack of offense…I thought they were on a run.
8 in a row…and now giving 3 back. Jeeez.
I’m watching the BOS game.
2 more outs for Lackey..
GO JOHN LACKEY!
Sweep, sweep, sweep
Heha!
No more no no.
Stupid Pedroia.
freaking Pedroia
damn, feel bad for lackey.
Freaking pesky little scrapper.
Lackey throwing first ball strikes.
The #$%ing midget breaks it up.
Poor Lackey
Thanks for turning to the Angels – Red Sox game everyone! Now we know the CURSE is watching this game – whoever you are, please stop watching Yankees games – you are a CURSE.
Lackey gave up a hit a Pedroia…
Well if you’re a glass half full person you see it as not losing any ground. If you’re a glass half empty person then I can’t help you with the answer seeing I’m not a glass half empty person!
so pacing yourself for second a place finish is good because 3rd place would be worse.
Um, in baseball your are either first or last, no matter how many glasses you have.
Poor John Lackey. Damn.
This makes me think of Moose’s game.
Ian Kennedy allowed 1 run over 6 innings and Brian Bruney is coming in for relief in the 7th.
The game is broadcasting on television here. I thought he was shaky in the third inning when he had runners on first and third with no one out, but he was able to only give up a sacrifice fly that Gardner didn’t even attempt to get a relay going with his weak arm.
Why am I not surprised that it was Pedroia?
Fire Girardi. He just props himself up with some win streaks here and there. But as a whole, the team has been no better then .500. Up and down every couple weeks. Ridiculous
Lackey no hitter over, figures.
I guess this part is predictable. Poor guy.
Ok Manny your off the hook, thanks to Pedroya
Well at least Damon is willing to run out grounders in a game where his team is down several runs and being owned, unlike some AL East outfielders!
Meanwhile, this is what irks me about the offense though. They know Cabrera’s almost at 100 pitches. They know the O’s bullpen can suck with the best of them. They can’t somehow have lengthier ABs so as to get to the pen to start their half of next inning??
I am never one to say the players don’t care. How do we know? But I do wonder, in situations like this, if they sit in the dugout and even talk about a comeback, or do they just say/think things like “we’ll get them tomorrow”…?
Fricken Pedroia. I hate him. Geez. if i’m even up in the ninth i’d get out.
pedroia sucks. but youk just hit a home run so all thats over
than a 2 run shot by Youk
Too bad Lackey lost the no-hitter and now the shut-out. As long as Boston looses though, that’s good.
Damn, that sucks for Lackey. Moose knows how he feels.
Can we please get Melky Cabrera off this team?
The whole offense is struggling, yes, but this guy is just infuriating to watch at the plate. He has absolutely zero business being a starting player in the majors.
Rat Boy and Puke Face messed up the No Hitter and the Shut out….oh, well…..just put up the “L” for the bastages, then we can temper the sting of the Yankees losing again to the mighty ( cough, cough, hack, hack ) Orioles.
Nothing good comes from bad vibes.
wow – no hitter to 2 runs!
What a bummer in Boston, good effort by J Lackey
“so pacing yourself for second a place finish is good because 3rd place would be worse.”
Whiff, I already said that I do not believe that the Rays are going to sustain themselves over the entire season. So I am pacing myself to have my team take over first.
Yankee fans are SUCH good sports when their team hits a rough patch…
None of you should be allowed to declare yourself a fan when the team starts winning again… Be it this year or next.
Losers.
why is it that SP continue to throw down the middle fastballs to halfpint, he has a lonnnnnng swing how about a breaking ball to throw off his timing.
We Yanks are the designated bltches of the Orioles.
Joe Girardi. The worst manager in the AL strikes again.
He has been going Veras-Farn-Mo for 2 months with startling success.
And tonight he lets Rasner go into the 7th?
Great job, Joe.
Moose’s was more painful. It was a 1-0 game and Moose wasn’t just no hitting boston, he had a PG, and he got to within a strike of it.
I still curse Carl Everett’s name.
right before the at bat, i said to myself…if anybody breaks up this no hitter, it would be pedroia
as much as i hate him, i’ve gotta admire what he’s done
i mean, he’s like half my size, but he can’t miss the ball. damn damn damn
Can we get 6 runs in two innings? Why do I torture myself with these questions?!
Time to score 5 runs
Instead of cursing the darkness light a candle,
Yes, still can win this game.
Lackey is at 116 pitches. I hope he’s spent for when he pitches against us.
I’m a little teapot, short and stout! This is my handle, this is my spout! When I get all steamed up, hear me shout! Tip me over and pour me out!
bob,
Melky Cabrera is a #8 or #9 hitter. He’s not the problem with the offense.
Jason Giambi is under .200 with RISP for the season. Jeter doesn’t drive in runs anymore. Arod struggles with RISP, Cano didn’t hit for the first 3 months of the season, no Posada, no Matsui.
All bigger culprits than Melky Cabrera. He’s the least of the problems with the offense.
What now John we should be happy that we are losing? We should be happy when the bullpen blows things out of proportion? And you’re calling us losers. Look at yourself.
Lackey just walked Manny. Time to call in the bullpen.
“Can we please get Melky Cabrera off this team?
The whole offense is struggling, yes, but this guy is just infuriating to watch at the plate. He has absolutely zero business being a starting player in the majors”
Melky’s lack of plate discipline is so annoying.
Time to score 5 runs
I so don’t see this happening.
“None of you should be allowed to declare yourself a fan when the team starts winning again… Be it this year or next.”
Hey! I resemble that!!!
Moose’s was so awful that I didn’t sleep that night. I was sick at heart for him and just kept wondering how he coped with the feeling. I believe they were on their way to Toronto after that series. They were on their way somewhere other than the Bronx. I really did ache for him and just kept wondering how in hell you got past that. Down to one freakin strike.
Amazing.
It is why the Sox are better than us.
Pedroia and Youkliss refuse to go down without a fight.
Who on this Yankee team is a fighter besides Rivera?
John
July 29th, 2008 at 9:30 pm
Yankee fans are SUCH good sports when their team hits a rough patch…
None of you should be allowed to declare yourself a fan when the team starts winning again… Be it this year or next.
Losers
Esssplain Lucy?
Pete — The real deadline is Aug. 31 when the rosters have to be set.
No Pete – the deadline is noiw — can’t have anymore Ponson and nt much more Rasner — while you can excuse him as a number 5 starter – the Yankees need 2 #4 equivalents NOW — time is running out and these brutal series that
Doom and Gloom illuminated have to stop or there is noi October–
It is Kind of the RedSox to go intop a funk and seet if the Rays do as wel but the Ynakees have to capitalize and they have to keep the pressure on
Ponson Kennedy and Rasner all throw similar looking stuff at similar speeds — Mussina as well but he has been brainy eficient and effective until he isn’t — each of thse guys loads weight on the Pen
That rotation needs a different llok and Washburn and IPK (or Rasner if need be) would make a difference
Cashman doesn’t have time — Betemit for heavens sake with the expectation he would do WHAT — balance a lineup that didn’t have Molina in it already
yeah that wasn’t very good baseball…
oh well – RALLY TIME
I could just kick Abreu and Molina’s a** for doing that on consecutive nights
geez guys, the pitching means nothing. if the o’s still had 2 runs where would we be? we’d still be losing. think before you comment.
Oh he is lucky.
That was a bit strange.
that’s why umpires should be required to have played some form of baseball before.
At least someone finally got thrown out for hitting us, but that was definitely not on purpose
haha, he threw his a$$ out
Alex almost ran into the BAL dugout. LOL!
The past does not equal the future.
All there is, is now.
What time is it Yogi? “It’s now.”
LOL, Look at myself??? Hahaha!
I don’t b1tch and whine on blogs when my favorite team loses 3 in a row… Have a little perspective.
does anyone realize that Dave Trembly looks like William Shaftner?
That was kind off weird.
THATS RIGHT DANIEL CABRERA!!!! SIT DOWN BEYOTCH! Although I’d rather they let him stay in to get all riled up and wild haha.
(also, couldnt that have happened 6 innings ago? lol)
wth ?
Yea well just look at some redsox blogs after today.
what a dumb move to bring in rasner to start the 7th.. It wasn’t as if he breezed through the 5th and 6th so that he can be brought in for the 7th.. every inning was a struggle and when the lead is cut to 2-1,why bring him back again?? Its a lot different for relievers when the start an inning fresh and when its nobody out and 2 on.. That doesn’t mean Marte gets a pass but he’s not the only one to be blamed for this.. And its ridiculous to see the way this offense not being able to handle Cabrera.. I mean how can they handle the schillings and becketts and get shut down almost every time by cabrera? Don’t they watch film or try to do other things? This should be a 2 out of 3 series at home against a sub .500 team.. it certainly is tough to do that barring a miracle..
Will Giambi finally get a hit with RISP???????????
I heart umpires
Well to be honest Cabrera didn’t mean that. But we probably lost our chance now since Cabrera was losing control.
SJ44, I understand all that and agree, but Melky just infuriates me.
CF just seems like an area where they could do something and they just keep wasting at bat after at bat with him. He may save a run here and there with his defense, but he gives up 10x that with his awful at bats.
And he does try to intimidate our hitters all the time. He doesn’t give a crap if he hits them, and that attitude stole months of Jeter’s season. So eff him. Enjoy the showers, Sally.
Intentional or not, why does A-Rod always get hit?
Overrecation by Fairchild. He’s not trying to hit Arod in that situation.
Be nice if the Yankees use it to their advantage to start a rally.
That would require some hits with RISP. Something that is often too big a challenge for many on the roster.
Who knows, perhaps tonight it changes.
Cashman and Girardi are way too infatuated with the Platonic ideal of left-handed pitcher.
Anyone seen Veras’ splits against left-handed batters?
In the meantime will someone explain to Damaso Gagne that in the AL reliever can’t rely on throwing fastballs by the 8th and 9th hitters and that he needs to recall how to pitch? Perhaps, Farnsworth can enlighten him.
hmmm
“does anyone realize that Dave Trembly looks like William Shaftner?”
You know, he kinda does. His face isn’t as fat as Shatner’s is, but I do see a resemblence.
By the way, I don’t think Cabrera was throwing at A-Rod. The guy has questionable control. The pitch got away from him.
That was very strange… what a quick hook
Oh my god, this would be the win of the year….
Wow where has Baseball gone? can someone tell me what has happened to Baseball? When you cant throw at a batter. I understand you dont headhunt, but really its terrible to throw inside…
holy cow…bases holded, no outs!!!!
That’s a hit with RISP, technically.
this is the game right here like i said tho its only july
It looked like Arod got hit in the same place he did in the Sux game!
daver – I guess the answer is “kind of” – but it does look like a line-drive in the book… hit so hard Abreu couldn’t score lol
OK…what the hale happenned ? Was there a fight ? Did the O’s pitcher REALLY drill A-Rod good ? Is A-Rod hurt ? FILL ME IN…please !
“Intentional or not, why does A-Rod always get hit?”
Good question. It’s not like he hangs over the plate like Jeter does. A lot of his HBP’s are intentional. He’s the highest paid guy in baseball. That is something that I’m sure annoys other players.
Giambi gets a hit with men on base. Let’s see what Cano and the Yanks can do now.
about time, a huge RALLLLLLLLLLY!!!!
“Did A-Rod pose after his home run?”
no pete. he wasnt even sure if it was a hr. he didnt hit it well.
This guy can be tough. O’s fans see him as their future closer. Hopefully we can knock him down a peg here.
John
July 29th, 2008 at 9:37 pm
LOL, Look at myself??? Hahaha!
I don’t b1tch and whine on blogs when my favorite team loses 3 in a row… Have a little perspective.
Dude, THIS IS NEW YORK
unlike most other teams, and their fans, we have high expectations. when the team doesn’t deliver, we’re dissapointed.
…Wow, Alex is a great baserunner.
what the hell happened there ?
all right robbie great base running my a rod to foucs on adam jones
Let’s Go Yanks!!!! Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
Bad play by the guy in CF. Melky would have never done that.
…they’re getting my hopes up here…
We haven’t won it yet but we are on the way back, all ye of little faith! (That does exclude a few.)
Now it is up to…
Betemit…ouch
Melky..double ouch (PH Nady!!!!)
WOW… that was Andruw Jones style – Bobby Cox would pull him right now in the middle of the inning – i do the same
Cashman and Girardi are way too infatuated with the Platonic ideal of the left-handed of reliever.
Anyone seen Veras’ splits against left-handed batters?
In the meantime will someone explain to Damaso Gagne that in the AL, a reliever can’t rely on throwing fastballs by hitters– there are no gimme batters here– and that he needs to recall how to pitch?
Perhaps, Farnsworth can enlighten him.
Wow…we are actually going to win this game ! Very nice comeback is on the horizon….I am SURE of it !
this game shows that little winning streak was just a mirage.
this offense is a joke. we have allstars at practically ever positions and no heart, no passion to win anymore.
It seems the veterans dont respect girardi cause they sure as hell dont play hard for him.
Meacham held up A-Rod and he went home on his own anyhow.
ok, he’s not gonna throw it, so i’ll just run
great great great
and, can we call that guy pacman?
How does Meacham still have a job?
Bobby Mecham: the invisible man.
thank god we are ignoring this idiot
Alex runs right past Meacham and scores. See the Yanks don’t need Meacham.
do NOT GIDP!!!!
Wow, Alex. Heads-up baseball right there. And Robby gets another RBI
3 more runs please
Now we be a good time for Betemit to try and get on my good side.
jesus Bet…
NADY needs to pinch hit ASAP
he didnt hit it well? he hit his hr 420 feet dead center..but no he did not pose.
What’s going on?
I shut it off in disgust and don’t want to jinx anything by turning it back on. lol
We have another fighter: Cano.
Hopefully WB will prove my nervousness about him being the hitter here to be unfounded.
Glad Robbie saved his only good AB tonight for then.
is nady going to get to pinch hit now wtf? maybe for melky?
X man pinch hit for moeller in a few AB’s you think?
PH Nady for Melky
I don’t b1tch and whine on blogs when my favorite team loses 3 in a row… Have a little perspective.
So those that express frustration with either valid point or pointless dribble are losers and should not be considered fans????
Little harsh don’t you think.
Real question is that why let it bother you. You seem to have put yourself on a pedestal, so being up so high from the cretans below, you are basically untouchable and in a class of a few not part of the insipid masses you despise. Is that not enough?
Thanks keeping sending the white light. We will win this game the force of the Universe is behind the Yankees.
“this game shows that little winning streak was just a mirage.”
Your timing is really odd!
figures Betemit would K’s.
Betemit…thanks for nothing.
Betemit apparently likes being on my bad side.
Nope. Turns out he still likes to K with men on
Bah Melky…that was close…
didnt think melky would get a hit for one second
The Yankees may regret these 2 blown opportunity games. While this weekend sees the team with 4 games with the hot Angels, the Rays play Detroit at home and Boston gets Oakland at home. Terrific – - just terrific.
good ole mr swing at the first pitch melky
are you kidding me? PH Nady for Betemit! i don’t freakin care if betemit’s left handed. cause he just struck out
so what now, nady couldn’t have done much worse than that
Wilson, you need to go away….Someone call San Diego and see if the Padres would like a Ball Boy !
Tough to get down on Melky for that – so don’t.
I mean – good freaking lord!!!
OMFG well that rally is done.
sigh… i really hate melky.
wow, wilson betimet sucks
pretty useless player
betemit and cabrera…thank god we have them in the lineup, AMIRITE?
good lord Melky
Nady time! i don’t even want a home run, just a nice double
Melky, again with the 1st pitch!!!!! Auuurgh
come on X man this is where u earn ur pinstripes
and put Milky on the same bus….GO GREYHOUND !
shoulda pinch hit for melky. the guy can’t seem to take a freakin’ pitch. arse.
Come on, Nady. Show me that your are more than just a smokin’ hot good looking face!
it’s like girardi can hear us…or he has a little bit of common sense
Talk about negative energy!
Here’s a clue for you. Betemit didn’t try to make an out. Grow up people!
It’s unfortunate that you have to watch Betemit and Melky when you have a chance to win the game.
There are lurkers posing as Yankee Fans. Observe them see them for what they, do not react to their negativity. Stay cool.
Believe.
Every single one of you whining about Melky’s recent flyout – go to hell, you morons.
He SMOKED that ball – it hits the gap? That’s 2 runs. As is, it happened to go to CF. NO HITTER CAN CONTROL WHERE THEY SMOKE THE BALL, you pack of idiots.
ok, now we can start complaining about the pitching again.
No complains about Melky’s at bat. He hit the ball hard; just right at someone.
You guys are mad at melky for hitting a line drive right at Jones?
“we have high expectations”
There is high expectations and there is spoiled and entitled. A lot of the stuff posted here falls into the latter category.
Are we all going to rag on Nady if he doesn’t come through? Just let me know now so I can get ready with a whiny post.
DANG IT X MANNNNN
Okay, well, three runs in the ninth…it’s not undoable.
Great trade Cashman.
Those guys really paid off well tonight.
well that was a tease and 3 quarters.
hey Melky…did you see that Yankee working the frickin’ count ? amazing concept, huh, son ?….Trade that slug !
I can’t believe Halladay ruined my prediction by not beating TB. Loser.
WAAAAAAAAAH! I’m a Yankees’ fan! I DESERVE FOR THE YANKEES TO WIN!!!!
IF THEY DON’T WIN, I’m going to CRY!
WAAAAAAAAH!
There is high expectations and there is spoiled and entitled. A lot of the stuff posted here falls into the latter category.
Are you talking about Yankee fans or Americans in general?
trisha – still supporting Farnsy like crazy!
July 29th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
Talk about negative energy!
Here’s a clue for you. Betemit didn’t try to make an out. Grow up people!
yea, but Betemit is a freakin backup
not a starter, a BACK-UP
he’s the guy that comes in after a guy dislocates his shoulder. not when the games on the line
Way to go Yankees. Great job beating up on that last place team… oh wait, they’re on the verge of losing their first two AT HOME to them while the team ahead of them is actually being beaten by a contending team!
Too bad the Yankees didn’t notice what team was opposite them on the field.
“Every single one of you whining about Melky’s recent flyout”
Uh no.
B4? Nady thought so
That was a good pitch.
He’s had 9 AB’s now. Its about time someone called him a useless pile of dog poo or something.
Walk Off Granny Tonight !
Not that Toronto would even consider this but, would you trade Hughes, Kennedy, and an 3rd player for Roy Halladay?
I didn’t whine about Melky’s flyout. At all.
Rebecca the next pitcher coming out that pen is George Sherrill..I’m not saying anything but my late night snack is getting cold. Seriously this team has some awareness problems IDK what gets done to cure that.
It’s pretty sad when you need to rally and the two hitters you have coming up are Betemit and Melky. They aren’t just bad, they fail at life.
Nady seems to strike out looking every time we’ve needed him!!!!
I know its only a few games, but damnit. He had to know that curveball was coming.
Betemit is terrible.
Melky is terrible.
The bench is terrible.
really.. why cant this team score !!!!!
KS,
Pretty tough to second guess the Marte move. They got him to pitch to lefties and he got beat tonight. It happens.
I don’t think folks were second guessing the move when he K’ed Ortiz on Saturday.
Every year, you run up against a team that has your number. Three years ago, this team couldn’t beat Tampa Bay, no matter how bad Tampa was.
This year, the Orioles have pounded just about every Yankee pitcher they faced.
Some nights, you make a move and it doesn’t work.
I’ll take my chances with Marte. Let’s not bury a guy after one bad outing. He’s a damn good pitcher.
I’m talking about Yankee fans.
Meacham is an idiot…HOW he still has a job on the Yankees of all teams is a complete mystery ,,,,
In retrospect, I wish the HP ump had only scolded Cabrera rather than tossing him. He would have gotten excited and given up a couple hits almost for sure. He actually helped him by ejecting him. Conspiracy all along? (haha, jk of course)
“They fail at life.”
Get a freaking grip
I didn’t expect anything from melky…so what’s there to whine about?
Ouch. When Mariano sucks, you know you weren’t meant to win.
this is getting flat out ridiculous
Hey Fran, this is what I’m talking about. Time to head for the hills.
But before I go – I am proud of this Yankee team, from top to bottom. They fought and tried to come back. It isn’t over yet, but even if they lose, I couldn’t be more proud of any team. A few games, win or lose, will never change my pride in the Yankees. You will never catch me trashing this team or any player on it.
Night all.
Unreal
That was not a good pitch.
That’s what happens when you bring in Mo down by 3 runs…
good warm up for Mo
Wow, is Molina stupid? Huff just pulled the same freaking pitch foul, barely. He hit the SAME pitch for a home run last year off Mo. Yet, we call for the SAME pitch in the SAME spot to the SAME hitter and give up a run that probably ends the game.
Brilliant.
Nady is 1-10 so far with the Yanks. And no clutch hits so far.
Marte blew up today.
Yanks before the trade had a 8 game hit streak.
After the trade 0-3.
time to kick kevin long in the nuts
Someone want to whine about Mo?
Game over…again.
Guess the ladybug wasn’t so lucky.
Sigh.
pete dont say it.
So the man really cannot perform in “non save” situations
Man, this is just brutal.
This is just not our night
“It’s pretty sad when you need to rally and the two hitters you have coming up are Betemit and Melky. They aren’t just bad, they fail at life.”
Oh for the love of God himself – could you be more of a freaking drama queen?
Failing at life? Nice healthy perspective there.
DID YOU HEAR BRETT FAVRE MIGHT BE COMING BACK?
NYY actually they are 1-3. they beat boston 10-3
“Intentional or not, why does A-Rod always get hit?â€
Good question. It’s not like he hangs over the plate like Jeter does. A lot of his HBP’s are intentional. He’s the highest paid guy in baseball. That is something that I’m sure annoys other players.
- and he is one of the best hitters in the game a lot of guys don’t like that…write that off to jealousy
- pitchers turn it up just that little bit extra in his at bats, ever notice how most at bats he never really gets a decent pitch to hit……usually when he hits a bomb it is on a real mistake pitch…other than that its pound him inside then low and away…..nobody wants alex to beat them……
-and i don’t blame them i wouldn’t give him anything to hit either
-but having said that i dont necessarily think that cabrerra was throwing at him intentionally, just going up and in and it got away
-and another great call by an umpire……do they have refresher courses for these guys to go to?
at some point, nady needs to produce. and produce soon.
not a good way to start your nyy stint. fans will jump on him real quickly
NYY
Not true. Marte and Nady both played in the Saturday win at Fenway.
“Yanks before the trade had a 8 game hit streak. After the trade 0-3.”
This is purely coincidental.
“So the man really cannot perform in “non save†situations”
It’s not that he can’t perform, it’s just that he’s not god-like in non-save situations. He’s still pretty good.
“This is not just not our night.”
Well maybe this attitude is why it’s not our night. The Yankees went into this series thinking it’d be a pushover last place team and played like total garbage and is on the verge of losing the series at home to them. Maybe if the manager, players, and coaches weren’t so complacent, they would win games like this?
Why is Rivera pitching when the Yanks are trailing by 4 runs. Is it Girardi’s plan to blow-up Rivera’s arm by the end of the year. Doesn’t he know that Rivera is 39 Years old and should be used as less as possible.
Yankees deserve to lose against the Angels.
“Wow, is Molina stupid? Huff just pulled the same freaking pitch foul, barely. He hit the SAME pitch for a home run last year off Mo. Yet, we call for the SAME pitch in the SAME spot to the SAME hitter and give up a run that probably ends the game.
Brilliant.”
Or not. He didn’t call for that pitch at all. Mo missed his spot – its thats simple. It happens.
did someone forget that Mo is supposed to come in when they’re up by 1-3 runs?
How does Nady “have to know” a curveball is coming on a 3-2 pitch?
Do you realize that the curveball is Johnson’s third best pitch? He’s a fastball, sinkerball pitcher.
So, you think he should be looking for a pitcher third best pitch on 3-2?
Next year, there should be a simple baseball IQ test before people post in here. Some of this stuff is comical to read.
Clueless Joe strikes again bringing Mo into a 6-3 game. Why waste him!!!!
I loathe Girardi.
My question…wasn’t Wilson Betemit supposed to be a steal one-year ago? Why is he so bad?
I firmly believe 75% of these idiotic posts are by non-yankee fans..
theres a difference between feeling bad about something poor with the team and bitching… i really hope some of you are not Yankee fans.. and some sad Bostonians who got nothing todo..
this board is so much more fun when the yanks stink.. the overreaction is seriously priceless
“After the trade 0-3″
no
1-4
Girardi is an idiot. Mo stinks in NON-SAVE situations and that run is the icing on the cake for this game. So you waste your closer and risk not having him available in an Angels game when you need him….and for WHAT ? Does Joe think that the Yankees REALLY are going to put up at least 3 runs in the 9th ? If so, I need to borrow his Crystal Ball….just ONE time !
“Intentional or not, why does A-Rod always get hit?â€
He gets pitched inside and pitchers rear back a little more to try to get him with velocity and instead lose control.
The Angels are going all in this year. Either they win this year or they don’t anytime soon. They trade their future 1st baseman for a 2 month rental. K-Rod leave as free-agent after the season.
“Get a freaking grip”
Sage advice for many of the wack jobs that pervade this blog at times like these, unfortunately. I guess a lot of people forgot to take their Prozac (or in some cases Thorazine?) this morning. What a bunch of sad sacks. Absolutely can’t believe all the crying and reactionary hyperbole. It’s one to vent, I’m a venter myself, but geez…
Joba is a definite case for letdown tomorrow. Then 4 with the Angels. Season done.
Does this analogy work?
Boston : Angels :: Yankees : Orioles?
Little known fact: Bob Lorenz is married to Deb Kaufman
“Pretty tough to second guess the Marte move. They got him to pitch to lefties and he got beat tonight. It happens.”
Don’t disagree SJ, but would point out that particular situation is not what he’d been dealing with in Pittsburgh. Little different being the 7th/8th inning “protect a lead” guy for awhile and then be brought into a “keep us in the game” situation. Doesn’t excuse the bad effort, but relievers always seem most comfortable when functioning in their particular role.
“and another great call by an umpire……do they have refresher courses for these guys to go to?”
It’s past the point of them needing a refresher course. What they need is to feel that their jobs are on the line if they don’t get their act together. These guys are like teachers with tenure. Can’t get rid of them. I wish MLB would get off of their rears and address this ump situation because this year, it is way out of control.
It is not their night . . . it’s doubtful this offense does not have 2 runs in them, let alone 5. But no pressure, Joba . . .
“It’s one to vent”
*one thing to vent
Notice as well that 4/7 RBI’s are for Aubrey Huff. The guy is hitting almost .400 this month. How can you continue to let him beat you? There’s always one guy that we let beat us, but if it’s the best hitter on the team, you can’t let that happen.
He’s pitching because he needs work and hasn’t pitched since Friday night. He can’t give the guy 5 days between outings. There’s a difference between use and rust.
Gotta love the second guessing tonight. Its hysterical
I wonder if betemit has ever hit a breaking ball in his career, seems impossible to picture.
“But before I go – I am proud of this Yankee team, from top to bottom. They fought and tried to come back. It isn’t over yet, but even if they lose, I couldn’t be more proud of any team. A few games, win or lose, will never change my pride in the Yankees. You will never catch me trashing this team or any player on it.”
What exactly was this? Like a pledge of Yankee Allegiance?
Oh well – to each their own
The Yankees went into this series thinking it’d be a pushover last place team and played like total garbage and is on the verge of losing the series at home to them.
Do you mean the Yankees or some Yankee fans? We don’t know what the players were thinking coming into this series.
ok…i’m not the bad guy that i seem to be…and i’m not a pessimist, just more of a realist. but realisticly, the yankees could get 3 guys on base and a grand slam ties this game. unlikely, but possible, and that’s what i’m going on from now on.
Rivera hasn’t pitched since Friday and the bullpen has been taxed the past two days with bad starts by Ponson and Mussina. No harm getting Mo an inning there.
oh my god calm down mo needed work in
Look at the bright side. Now SJ44 can all bore us with posts about how to rebuild the Yankees and play for next year.
damn Micheal Kay just can’t help himself STFU
Yes, I am certain that the yankees look at the schedule and say, wow, it’s the Orioles, they’re in last place, we can lay back and the win will come to us. Puh-leez.
Did you even listen to these guys in their post-game over the last couple of weeks. They all, to a man, stated how it didn’t matter who they were playing they had to play hard.
if Jeter GIDPs I may scream.
“Joba is a definite case for letdown tomorrow. Then 4 with the Angels. Season done.”
lol
Shall I call a waaambulance for all these pansies?
dude, how do you deal with adversity in real life??
oops – that should read “it’s doubtful this offense has 2 runs in them”
Theres no question that Yankee players are subjected to more high heat than most teams…
if opponents pitch tight its pitching… if Yanks pitchers pitch tight its bitching…
“Does this analogy work?
Boston : Angels :: Yankees : Orioles?”
Angels best record in baseball. I hope that was a joke.
Fredo,
What was a bigger situation, tonight or Saturday in Boston vs. Ortiz?
Its Boston by a mile.
He had a bad outing. It happens.
The guy is a damn good pitcher. Doesn’t mean he’s going to be perfect.
Even Mo gave up a bomb tonight.
It wasn’t “pressure” that did in Marte tonight. It was a hot hitting team.
Kay just shut up !
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Joba is a definite case for letdown tomorrow. Then 4 with the Angels. Season done.
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Season done?
I already thought so a month ago.
“dude, how do you deal with adversity in real life??”
Lithium.
Regardless of what the other team’s hitting did, it’s always on ours, again. Besides last inning they have done notihng at the plate off a guy who has been inconsistent against most teams. Cabrera has a 5.00 ERA for a reason- somebody was hitting him.
Hey, I don’t want to bury Marte just yet, SJ44, just venting a little frustration.
Still, what bothered me less than the hits was Marte’s approach. Way too many fastball, not nearly enough sliders in that inning.
Nonetheless, I expressed reservations about the move the night it was made. I contended then, I contend now, Marte wasn’t necessary. I’d rather have seen them use the prospects to obtain Bay.
But my criticism is less of Cashman than Girardi who insists on playing inferior hitters simply because they hit from the oppposite side of the plate than the evening’s pitcher.
Nady should have been starting tonight, not Betemit.
Give Alex a half-night off during a winning-streak not when you’ve lost two in a row.
Same criticism applies to Giradi’s bullpen management.
The lefty-right switches are a crutch and induce lazy thinking, playing lefty-right combos instead of matchups.
“Look at the bright side. Now SJ44 can all bore us with posts about how to rebuild the Yankees and play for next year.”
He’s already typing out the post on how to fix ‘em.
Tying Run On Deck, Winning Run in the hole.
If Abreu gets on, this could be very interesting. Otherwise, A-Rod’s AB is kinda a waste if he’s not the tying run.
Why can’t Jeter put that type of at-bat together all of the time?
Doris From Rego Park
July 29th, 2008 at 9:58 pm
this board is so much more fun when the yanks stink.. the overreaction is seriously priceless
COMPLETELY AGREE. When they win is just boring gushing for a team everyone expects to win.
keep passing the baton!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Praying for a miracle
My rally cap is on
“Boston : Angels :: Yankees : Orioles?â€
Angels best record in baseball. I hope that was a joke.”
You are missing the point of her post. She’s saying that the Angels are the achilles heel of the Red Sox and the Orioles are ours. And she’s right.
ok, one guy on. no outs. they could still pull this off…lets see what jeter does…
walk…ok, 2 guys on and no outs…we could definately pull this one off
godammit RISP for Alex
If A-Rod weren’t the tying run I’d IBB him, but you can’t put the tying run on base with no outs, as bad as Giambi has been lately.
Or Jason, you can post the same gibberish nonsense. Or do what you do best…..play with yourself.
another Abomb???
One loss isn’t the end of the world.
geez i love abreu
“What was a bigger situation, tonight or Saturday in Boston vs. Ortiz?”
The latter. But it’s the latter situation that Marte has been pithing in all year. Protecting a lead, late in a game. Somehow it’s different than coming into a game 2=3 runs down and trying to keep a team in it. Not very different from Mo struggling in non-save spots but being lights out in save situations.
Can Alex hit a HUUGGE homerun?
A-Rod needs to hit the ball.Not walk.He needs to hit.
Micheal Kay doing everything he can to jinx this one
That game is, by far, my fave A-Rod game ever!!
I have a feeling this is going to come down to guys like Cano. I don’t think they give A-Rod something to hit.
Gee, Joe, without that HR in the 9th, the tying run is in scoring position with NO OUTS….Einstein !
enough about marte, right now, all that matters is scoring runs. the pitching is over. it’s score now or lose the game. THATS ALL THAT MATTERS
I’ll take a single too…a double too…
This will be my last message.
Baseball is America’s Game. It is about being timeless.
If your team loses, there is always another game.
Don’t fall into Idol worship and despair when your team loses, your thoughts control your emotions and your emotions shape the destiny and quality of your life and those around you.
If you have a negative thought, see it and then replace it with the most positive thought you can imagine.
Enjoy your life.
All the best to everyone.
this right here is a turning point for the POSITIVE for the 2008 Yankees Season !
come on…is the stache still alive!?
……….didn’t need a home run swing there Alex
how much power is in that lip fur?
Another one trying to hit a HR.
Ahh RISP for Alex is like kryptonite
Sad…
RICHIE SEXSON? Geez. Giambi can’t hit lefties, or fastballs up, or anything it seems.
“You are missing the point of her post. She’s saying that the Angels are the achilles heel of the Red Sox and the Orioles are ours. And she’s right.”
Soo the Sox achilles heel is the best team in baseball. Hmmm?
A-Rod LOL
UNDERDOG!!!!
Do these guys know that a HR is optimal, but not required here?
The Big K
Giambi…only trying to hit a home run a little bit..but i wouldn’t mind if he did
no WAY that 2nd pitch is a strike…..KILL THE UMPS !…well not really….but strike them MIGHTILY !
Tying run on base….
AROd couldnt do that…
could we pinch run giambi now?
the stache! pinch run giambi with christian now
Where’s Gardner when you need him?
enough power in that lip fur
Okay, he can keep the ‘stache!
wow that hr was huge now
Nice ‘stache AB, Jason!
NO double-plays…pleaseee….
THE POWER…OF THE ‘STACHE!!!!
It’s about time Giambi did something useful.
MAtt- I know I just made a disparaging comment about Giambi, as he proves us both wrong, but, remember that Walkoff off BJ Ryan?
Now can we have a pinch runner? Pretty please?
How huge is that HR in the top of the 9th.
Arod is too good to hit in pressure situations. The type of hitter you need is someone who knows they cannot hit a HR; someone who recognizes that keeping momentum going is better than always having the knock out punch.
Ali would wear his opponents down before applying the blow.
See just like Giambi, simple hit, ball in play, many things can happen.
swinging for the fences produces nothing.
please Robi put on in the gap w/o hitting a glove
When do we blame Mo?
1 Think they’ll scratch this run over? Hopefully Christian won’t fall down
I guess not!!
There it is TIE GAME…oh, wait…I forgot, Girardi is an idiot and let Mo pitch the top of the inning in a TOTALLY NON SAVE situation and MO stunk it up and gave up a monster HR and now we are still losing……( gilda radner voice to follow )…..nevermind…..
Does christian run here?
Holy crap
Umpire is killin us
OK…what was the injury delay ?
melky…….
i mean bettimett lol
Justin Christian is seriously now one of my favorite guys…he’s so…fast!
You know, this might be more painful than losing 7-1 if Betemit can’t come through.
Could be Nady here, but instead it’s Betemit with another stellar lineup.
hahah..
well, thats one way to score. the old hit up the middle, ricochet off the pitcher 2 run single.
A win would be great, but this offense has serious issues. If that didnt hit off the pitcher, the 2B was right there. cant rely on luck like that all the time.
why hit betemit here!!!
Richie Sexson or Betemit from the RH side ?
“There it is TIE GAME…oh, wait…I forgot, Girardi is an idiot and let Mo pitch the top of the inning in a TOTALLY NON SAVE situation and MO stunk it up and gave up a monster HR and now we are still losing……( gilda radner voice to follow )…..nevermind…..”
It’s pretty clear that Mo needed work, having not pitched since FRIDAY idiot.
I didn’t know Cano plays golf.That was a good Golf swing.
Oh boy
Pathetic job by Cano.
“See just like Giambi, simple hit, ball in play, many things can happen.”
Yeah Giambi’s much better than Arod. Kidding right
Did he really go around on the 1st strike? I had my eyes shut lol
And if only someone besides WB was up here
Professional hitter…. now that is funny.
cano seems to have forgotten what his dad told him
OK…I go back to ….KILL THE UMP !
why is BET swinging righty !
Neil-Remember when Nady struckout looking before?
Game over… no way Betemit can hit that slider down and in.
I have zero faith in Betemit especially from the right side.
slider in the dirt, betemit strikes out
“You know, this might be more painful than losing 7-1 if Betemit can’t come through.”
it would be for sure. hate teases.
A-rod, Cano = goats
Game over. I knew it. This team has no heart.
did joe forget the Yanks have sexson?
What a joke
This loss really hurt with the Yankees coming back and falling a run short. So many missed opportunities early on to score.
Yeah.
That was friggin’ painful.
allmost guys allmost….
betemit u stink!!!!!!!!!!!!
So close yet so far.
WOW.
I’d rather lose 7-0.
Another 0-for night for betemit.
July 29th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
“See just like Giambi, simple hit, ball in play, many things can happen.â€
Yeah Giambi’s much better than Arod. Kidding right
Oh no, Arod is by far better. Just saying, Arod tries to play the hero instead of helping his team.
What a tease. Again.
“Richie Sexson or Betemit from the RH side ?’
Kind of like picking the tallest midget. Sexson’s swing has been putrid. Still may have gone with him though.
Maybe if Girardi didn’t put together a weaker lineup, as he did tonight, the results would have been different.
The comeback means nothing because they still lost. Maybe if this team played 9 innings instead of 2 they would win some baseball games? No focus until they realize they’re about to blow it.
And Mo’s run is the difference of course. A stupid pitch in a stupid spot kills them. Huff hit the same pitch 2 feet foul and he threw it again, and not only that, but it’s the same pitch he’s crushed off of Mo every at bat he’s faced him.
The Yankees played a dumb game of baseball and the tiny mistakes they made cost them the game.
That not-playing Nady thing in place of Betemit was a smart move.
“A-rod, Cano = goats”
Alex got the Yanks on the board with a HR and Cano has 2 RBI in the 8th. Without those three RBI, the 9th inning wouldn’t have even mattered. The Yanks would have been loosing 7-0.
This one hurts
i kinda feel like i was punched in the stomach
A case of the game not as close as the score.
Hopefully, it carries over to tomorrow.
Joba on the mound?
i absolutely hate baseball right now. This is BS. Baltimore got SO LUCKY. When I think of ALL those LD’s we hit hard right at someone and all the cheap hits they got which made at least a 2 run difference…and then to lose by 1 run…esijghdfkjghzfljabhdfkin.
Everybody knew Betemit would strike out. On the other hand, you have Richie Sexson at the bench, who everybody knew would strike out too. Everywhere you turn you see scrubs, can’t win like that.
Wasn’t Cashman high on Betemit and that is why he was acquired.
Perhaps Cash was just high.
Joba, get your rest and eat your Wheaties. Yankee offense, close but no cigar, thanks for playing.
That was too bad. Went down fighting, but in the end too many runs given up.
Now maybe that dumb you-know-what in Girardi will see why you can’t have Betemit play. Also, maybe he’ll learn not to put Mo in the game when they’re losing or even when it’s tied. And why wasn’t Sexson in the game, he’s there to hit lefties after all.
Stupid frustrating loss! Another one we’ll look back at when we’re a game back somewhere down the road and say Yeah that was just stupid. Girardi did a horrid job tonight and it started with the lineup.
well, if they could come back like that, with the BACKUPS girardi had playing, full lineup they should be able to win tomorrow.
it was a good showing though.
tomorrow, must win game
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Tough loss. I’d rather the Yankees get blown out than lose like this.
So, everyone would have been happier if the side was retired in order? I thought it was disappointing that it fell short, and certainly disappointing that the HR in the top of the inning proved to be deadly, but at least they did not go down quietly and without a fight.
Well, there is always tommorrow. Not bad for a bunch of players who don’t try.
“A-rod, Cano = goatsâ€
Your goats are Wilson Betemit and Melky Cabrera. Hard to imagine they are professional hitters.
Well I think the bullpen and not the hitting lost this game.And tomorrow it will be the offense.
Yanks are 2 out of WC, 4.5 up on Toronto.
4 out of 1st place.
about to be swept and the Angels coming to town.
Over/under Yankees can win 2 games on this home stand.
Cano…he’s like a less talented Soriano (Soriano when he was a Yankee, that is). He has ZERO discipline. You could smell that strikeout a mile away.
And Joe G, what the hell was up with Betemit? Isn’t Sexson on the team precisely because he hits lefties? How about that new guy Nady?
And I agree with the poster who called the Giambi “hit” luck. That was an easy out if it didn’t ricochet off of the pitcher.
So, while the Red Sox are beating on the A’s this weekend, the Yankees will try to right the ship against the Halos. Brilliant!
“Game over. I knew it. This team has no heart”
thats the phrase people love the most on this blog…no one has any idea what kind of “heart” this team has….if anything, the bottom of the ninth showed that they do in fact have heart….it would of been very easy to go down 1-2-3…shameful to say they have no heart…im sure they LOVE losing…
This line-up seemed doomed from the start. Do not start Betemit…when you lost the last 2 games so you can rest ARod as DH. He came up in the game in key points. That last at bat…we had could not pinch hit for him.
Even through Nady K’d in his pitch hit…he needs to play. That is why we got him — for another bat. If you want to start Damon in the field…put him in center and rest Melky for the night.
Isnt this why they signed sexson? to PH for guys who are awful when a lefty is on the mound?
I’m sure glad Nady and Marte aren’t just rentals. We gave up Tabat for this ???
Betemit is the worst player I have seen in pinstripes in a long time.
He is brutal.
Wow – that Mo home run looms LARGE
And poor Rasner gets the loss. He should vomit in somebody’s locker or something. Maybe on Girardi’s desk.
This is the biggest letdown of the season for me.
I really thought A-Rod would come through.
But he doesn’t when it REALLY counts. Only when it kinda counts or doesn’t count at all.