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Game 107: Orioles at Yankees

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Jul 30, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

july_30.jpegYANKEES (58-48)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu DH
Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Cano 2B
Nady RF
Cabrera CF
Molina C
Chamberlain RHP

ORIOLES (51-55)
Roberts 2B
Jones CF
Markakis RF
Huff DH
Mora 3B
Scott LF
Millar 1B
Quiros C
Fahey SS
Sarfate RHP

Joba Chamberlain (3-3, 2.30) vs. the Baltimore hitters.

Dennis Sarfate (4-1, 3.78) vs. the New York hitters.

Notes: The Yankees have lost three straight, the Orioles have won three straight. … Yankee pitching the last three games: 26 innings, 44 hits, 29 earned runs, 9 walks, 15 strikeouts, 7 home runs. … Chamberlain has allowed one run on 12 hits and struck out 17 in his last 13 innings.

WHO’S HOT: Derek Jeter has hit in 10 straight at 14 of 44 with six RBI, seven runs scored and six extra-base hits. … Johnny Damon is 8 of his last 22 with five RBI.

WHO’S NOT: What is with the strange fascination the Yankees have with Wilson Betemit? He is 9 of his last 44 with one extra-base hit, three RBI and 14 strikeouts. … Xavier Nady is 1 of 11 as a Yankee.

WELCOME HOME: Sarfate is a 27-year-old Queens native who has been with the Brewers, Astros and now the Orioles in three seasons. He is 5-1, 3.51 for his career. This will be his first major-league start. He was acquired as part of the Miguel Tejada trade.

GOOD MO/BAD MO: Check out these weird splits for Mariano Rivera:

Save situations: 26 games, 27.1 innings, 12 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 33 strikeouts, 0 HR, 0.33 ERA

Non-save situations: 15 games, 20 innings, 16 hits, 6 runs, 2 walks, 24 strikeouts, 3 HR, 2.70 ERA.

HOW CAN THIS BE TRUE: The Yankees are 10-9 in games started by Darrell Rasner and Sidney Ponson.

LOCAL HERO: Bobby Abreu has 443 doubles. The record for a player born in Venezuela is 444 by Andres “Big Cat” Galarraga.

THE CLOCK IS TICKING: The non-waivers trade deadline is tomorrow at 4 p.m. Feel free to post your totally unrealistic trade idea. Everybody else seems to be. If you’re hoping to get a stud pitcher, be advised that you have to start with Austin Jackson or Phil Hughes and Brian Cashman isn’t going there.

Lots of updates today, check back later.

UPDATE, 11:20 a.m.: Jorge Posada is scheduled to have his shoulder surgery today. So good luck to him. The rehab is supposed to take six months. That would put him pretty close to being ready for when pitchers and catchers report. Obviously he will be used cautiously in spring training.

UPDATE, 11:24 p.m.: Sarfate’s longest stint this season was 3.1 innings on July 25. So it’ll be interesting to see how much he can gives the Orioles today. The Yankees will try and be patient and run up his pitch count. He has pitched well against the Yankees this season, allowing one hit and striking out six in four innings of work. He is sort of their Joba in that they’re transitioning him from the bullpen.

UPDATE, 12:08 p.m.: Ah, some scribes in Seattle are upset with reports about the Washburn trade. They’re blaming the evil New York media for the stories. Which is pretty amusing.

This guy blames the media.

This guy blames the Yankees.

This guy blames the media, too.

Baseball trades are largely about economics these days. If one team (say the Yankees) is willing to absord $14 million in salary, a second team (say the Mariners) can’t expect to get Melky Cabrera or anybody else with a pulse. You take the $14 million in salary relief and go sign the best lefty in Taiwan or a great shortstop from Venezuela or a good free agent this winter. That’s the benefit.

Why that is so complicated, I have no idea. Or you can keep Jarrod Washburn and still finish in last place and pay him. It’s not about the Yankees or the New York media. It’s about being smart.

UPDATE, 1:06 p.m.: Hideki Matsui worked out today. 25 cuts off a tee and 10 cuts of soft-toss. “I felt fine, no problem,” he said.

Matsui is wearing a brace for this round of rehab. It’s likely he will head down to Tampa when the team goes on the road on Monday.

UPDATE, 1:13 p.m.: And the ball game is over! Whenever The Big G makes a diving stop without hurting himself, the Yankees win the game. We have three hours left to see how it ends, but the Yankees will win.

UPDATE, 1:21 p.m.: Dennis Sarfate has a little giddy-up on his heater. He got Damon with a 95-mph pitch. But he has control issues and probably has no more than four innings in him. The Yankees need to be disciplined with their approach.

UPDATE, 1:24 p.m.: There you go, Jeter and Abreu draw walks.

UPDATE, 1:26 p.m.: Then A-Rod takes a strike and rips a pitch into right. Great slide by Abreu, who got his hand on the plate around the tag.

2-1 Yankees as The Big G defensive indicator kicks in.

UPDATE, 1:28 p.m.: He got Giambi with a 97-mph heater. This guy will be interesting to follow as Baltimore tries to make him a starter. He seems like he has a decent curveball, too.

UPDATE, 1:32 p.m.: Sarfate threw 25 pitches in that inning. Good work by the Yankees.

UPDATE, 1:43 p.m.: Xavier Nady is now 1 for 12 as a Yankee. Dan McCutchen better not turn into Joe Saunders.

UPDATE, 1:49 p.m.: Cano can be a frustrating player to watch. Just catch the ball, you don’t need to be cool. Just catch the ball.

UPDATE, 2:26 p.m.: Joba has really developed his secondary pitches in the last few weeks. If it wasn’t for Cadillac Cano, he’d have a shutout going.

UPDATE, 2:31 p.m.: Sarfate is out and Burres is in. Sarfate only allowed two hits but one was an RBI single and the other a two-run homer. All three guys he walked scored. But he’s pretty tough and I suspect he learned a lot today.

UPDATE, 2:51 p.m.: Joba has allowed two earned runs in his last 19 innings.

* * * * * JORGE POSADA UPDATE, 2:53 p.m. * * * * *

Posada had his surgery this afternoon at the Hospital for Special Surgery in Manhattan. Dr. David Alcheck performed the procedure, which repaired his labrum and capsule damage. It will be 4-6 weeks before he can begin light exercises. The usual recovery time for these surgeries is a minimum of six months.

See you in 2009, Jorge.

UPDATE, 2:58 p.m.: What a concept, let a good hitter like Giambi swing the bat against left-handers. Amazing. And he drives in a run.

Then The Big G goes first to third on a single. A nice defensive play, an opposite-field single against a lefty and good base-running? The ‘stache is back!

UPDATE, 3:01 p.m.: Hey, look everybody, it’s Xavier Nady.

UPDATE, 3:06 p.m.: Brilliant move by Dave Trembley, intentionally walking automatic out Melky Cabrera in a 7-2 game in the sixth inning.

UPDATE, 3:11 p.m.: And that’s what happens even you overmanage, you let Damon get to the plate with the bases loaded and he works a walk.

UPDATE, 3:18 p.m.: I think it’s fine that Yankee pitchers want to protect their hitters. It’s great, actually.

But throw the ball at somebody’s back or legs. Throwing at or near their head is dangerous and unprofessional.

And please don’t pretend he didn’t intend to do it. Ramirez has walked three hitters in his last 13 innings. It’s 9-2, Millar is at the plate and A-Rod was drilled yesterday. He might as well have held up a sign.

I love when managers run out to argue like they’re shocked there was an ejection.

UPDATE, 3:26 p.m.: Did you see you argued the least? Edwar. He knew exactly what he did and what was going to happen.

It’s only a matter of time the Yankees have a brawl with somebody. It’ll be this team or the Red Sox. The Yankees are clearly fixated on this stuff now. Somebody will throw up and in on a hitter in a foul mood and it’ll be go time.

UPDATE, 3:40 p.m.: That’s 23 this season and 541 for his career for his career.

11. Jackson 563
12. Schmidt 548
13. A-Rod 541

And the Yankees have awoken against the O’s, it’s 11-2.

UPDATE, 3:47 p.m.: Nady seems to have his NL swerve back. Two doubles, two RBI. Good stuff for him.

How are the Yankees 4-7 against this team? Dreadful.

UPDATE, 3:50 p.m.: Cue the “Castillo should be ejected, too!” posters. Except that he hit Molina with a slider. You don’t intentionally throw at anybody with a breaking pitch.

UPDATE, 4:15 p.m.: Yankees win 13-3, the losing streak is snappped at three. Now come the Angels.

Back later with some reaction.

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1,424 Responses to “Game 107: Orioles at Yankees”

  1. Thurman July 30th, 2008 at 9:58 am

    So why not pull the trigger on Gardner for Washburn?

  2. mark July 30th, 2008 at 9:58 am

    the yankees are depressing right now.

  3. mark July 30th, 2008 at 9:59 am

    haven’t people been saying that washburn isn’t really a step up from rasner/ponson? i am not saying that is true, but if it is true…why pay $14 MM for that?

  4. benfica356 July 30th, 2008 at 10:03 am

    wow, abreu DH? He’s not a DH

  5. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 10:03 am

    “So why not pull the trigger on Gardner for Washburn?”

    I would rather do Melky for Bannister than Gardner for Washburn. Washburn will be ours once Mariners stop being dumb and realize how much money they are dumping.

    Melky should be our 4th outfielder so we need to get Damon back in center.

  6. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 10:05 am

    Betemit needs to go.

    Far far away.

  7. ohgodno July 30th, 2008 at 10:05 am

    Crazy Trade Idea:
    Straight up trade with Joba to the Red Sox for Manny, so we can finally see what we’ve all been waiting for: a cage fight between Joba and Youkilis.

    …My money is on Joba.

  8. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 10:06 am

    Ru kidding me with that?? Melky for Bannister..haha thats funny and even saying that Damon should be back in CF do you even watch the games?? Damon is struggling enough in LF to throw the ball. He is a DH and a once and awhile LF. The Yankees are being smart and waiting Sea out just like they did 2 years ago with Philly. If Sea wants Gardner I am sure Cash will say take him.

  9. benfica356 July 30th, 2008 at 10:07 am

    my trade idea:
    Brett Gardner, Kei igawa, and Ian Kennedy for Vincent Padilla and Gerald Laird

  10. Manton July 30th, 2008 at 10:07 am

    Let’s snag Halladay for Melky, a chicken parm, and some Dippin’ Dots in the collectable New York Yankee batting helmet. This way, we get a top-rated arm and the Blue Jays get 1) a player 2) a meal 3) the future of ice cream in their hands. Win-win.

  11. franly b July 30th, 2008 at 10:07 am

    go get king felix…..

  12. Paul July 30th, 2008 at 10:08 am

    hmmmm…all week the paper said start time was 7….well, that changes my plans!

  13. ohgodno July 30th, 2008 at 10:08 am

    pssst … Pete did say to post absurd trade ideas … so take everything as a joke.

  14. Sai July 30th, 2008 at 10:09 am

    Nady needs to come alive out there. striking out in 8th with 2 on was not why we brought him over here.

    Marte was not the man last night. Giriadi shouldve gone with our shutdown pitcher- Edwar Ramirez

    how about justin christian, jeffery marquez, and kei igawa for washburn??(yes pure trash but maybe multiple bs prospects might appease the m’s)

    honestly no use trying this year after the Angels got Tex. They were the favorite to win it before they got him and now they just closed the book on this year with that trade

  15. myrtlebeachfan July 30th, 2008 at 10:09 am

    Bobby had some trouble in the field in the last few games. It was time for a break for him.

    Trade scenarios should be played out for someone like Greinke or equivalent. You don’t trade for a guy like Bannister or Washburn unless you’re getting them for basically free.

    Kennedy and Hughes have a good chance to help the team this season down the stretch. Kennedy moreso than Hughes. And it’s not like Kennedy hadn’t been pitching better in his last starts before being sent down/injured.

    He’s got to be better than Ponson and Hughes is better than Rasner. Sure, they’ve had their struggles but theyre upgrades without a doubt. If Wang or even Pavano can bolster this rotation in September, we will have no trouble winning 60-70% of games.

  16. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 10:10 am

    That’s what I thought too, Paul! I guess it’s less time to stew on last night though

  17. ohgodno July 30th, 2008 at 10:11 am

    Let’s trade Joe Girardi to the Marlins for Hanley Ramírez and candy in the clubhouse.

  18. ray (sox fan) July 30th, 2008 at 10:11 am

    I just got off the phone with Theo Epstein and we agree.

    We will trade Manny to you guys for a bag of chips and a diet coke.

    Deal or no deal?

  19. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 10:13 am

    I say the Yanks call SD and send the farm there and anyone else they want for Jake Peavy

  20. ohgodno July 30th, 2008 at 10:13 am

    Make it a regular coke and we got a deal. I’d like to see some of the Sox missing time with a trip to the dentist.

  21. Peter Rabbit July 30th, 2008 at 10:15 am

    My thought still stands— DFA Betemit. Someone in last night’s Game thread got all “hot and bothered” by me saying that.

  22. Michael Kay's Worst Nightmare July 30th, 2008 at 10:16 am

    In before someone mentions Brett Favre.

    Also, how bout Melky for Mr. Met?

  23. ray (sox fan) July 30th, 2008 at 10:16 am

    ohgodno

    You drive a hard bargain. As long as Youkilis and Pedroia don’t drink the regular coke we have a deal!

  24. David July 30th, 2008 at 10:17 am

    Who would you rather see up to bat in a big situation…Sexon or Bonds? The idea that he would create a media circus is moot, since the Yankees already are a circus. Clubhouse cancer? I think he’s been humbled by the experience of the past 4 months, not to mention that we all work with guys we don’t like. The guy can hit, is zero risk, and costs about 1% of Jarrod Washburn’s salary.

  25. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 10:17 am

    ray -

    Not even for a bag of Funions and a headcase to be named later – lol

  26. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 10:18 am

    bah… stupid day game!

  27. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 10:19 am

    Nady needs to come alive out there. striking out in 8th with 2 on was not why we brought him over here.

    You’re right!! Let’s not let the guy get accustomed to a new league, ballpark, city, etc. He just had his first child a few weeks ago, but WE WANT IMMEDIATE RESULTS AND I CAN’T BELIEVE HE HASNT HIT YET OMGHEISTHEWORSTPLAYEREVERLETSTRADEHIMFORWASHBURN!

    Give me a break, and give the guy a chance.

  28. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 10:20 am

    David –

    It isn’t happening with Bonds – make peace with that and move on.

  29. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 10:21 am

    My thought still stands— DFA Betemit. Someone in last night’s Game thread got all “hot and bothered” by me saying that.

    I don’t think Betemit is very productive either, but I’m sure you could at least get a no-name minor leaguer for him. OR try and throw him into the Washburn deal. I wouldn’t mind that one bit.

  30. DMAC July 30th, 2008 at 10:21 am

    Who thinks Yanks sign Tex in the winter to replace Big G

  31. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 10:22 am

    “the yankees are depressing right now.”

    Were they depressing when they won 8 in a row, including 2 at Fenway?

    Amazing how manic depressive people on here are from one day to the next. Or one INNING to the next………

    4 games out with 2 months to play. Get a grip.

  32. Real World July 30th, 2008 at 10:22 am

    The Yanks can’t continue to roll out Rasner & Ponson much longer. They can survive one of them, maybe, but not both. I’d much prefer running Kennedy out there than either of those two. At least Kennedy’s innings would have value moving forward. Just trade for Washburn and get it over with.

  33. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 10:23 am

    I’m going to mention something that my dad said a few weeks back, and after I do so, it’s going to be all you hear whenever Flaherty does a game.

    At least once/twice a game, Flaherty starts a sentence with “I had a nice (talk/chat/conversation) with (player) today and…”

    It’s not a big deal, but seriously after he mentioned that to me, it’s all I hear whenever Flaherty talks.

  34. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Chris NY – Thanks – you saved me the typing :)

  35. ohgodno July 30th, 2008 at 10:25 am

    Ray whaddya say Joba for Manny straight up? As long as Joba, Youkilis, Pedroia, and Beckett have to have a cage match and only one is allowed to walk out alive.

    Deal?

  36. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 10:26 am

    Were they depressing when they won 8 in a row, including 2 at Fenway?

    Amazing how manic depressive people on here are from one day to the next. Or one INNING to the next………

    4 games out with 2 months to play. Get a grip.

    Some people take things too far, and overreact, but I must agree that the last 3 games have been tough to watch. Seeing Kevin Millar do his best impression of an MVP has been sickening.

    Also, the guy never said the season was over. He never claimed that “4 games out with 2 months to play” was an impossible hill to climb. Relax :-)

  37. Buck Hugh July 30th, 2008 at 10:26 am

    Agree DFA Betemit. Either dump or get off the pot regarding Kennedy. Do something about Gardner, he can’t hit period. Decide if you are “all in” regarding this fall, or bend over like the Braves just did with Tex.

  38. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 10:27 am

    Brent, I’ve noticed that too…

    ” I’d much prefer running Kennedy out there than either of those two.”

    I haven’t heard much but hasn’t Pete said Kennedy’s been pitching well in AAA? If he looks good and ready to come back up, I’m all for bringing him up to replace Ponson. Provided that he’s been doing well enough to get his confidence and swagger back.

  39. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) July 30th, 2008 at 10:28 am

    I got one: Kei Igawa for Scott Kazmir.

  40. John_Halfz July 30th, 2008 at 10:29 am

    I was at the game last night. The Yankees weren’t depressing at all. The Yankees were ripping the ball in the first three innings. Sometimes you don’t get lucky.

    The depressing part was having Girardi leave Rasner in to face the top of the order in the 7th. I’d rather see Marte come in with none on and none out and blow it all himself than see Rasner, who was at 100 pitches, who was getting lucky, continue.

    And those Mariano splits? What’s the point? His WHIP is still under 1.00 in non-save situations. So more like impossibly good Mariano-very good Mariano.

  41. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 10:29 am

    when the camera is on the YES guys who are broadcasting the game for the night, how often do you see Flaherty, completely silent, look back and forth from whomever is talking, and then back to the camera giving a nod as if he’s in some kind of deep thought. he reminds me of kermit the frog sometimes :lol:

  42. ohgodno July 30th, 2008 at 10:30 am

    Kennedy had a decent line last night from Scranton.

    From the SWB Blog: “Ian Kennedy’s past three starts: 20 IP, 7 H, 3 R, 2 ER, 4 BB, 14 Ks.”

    The Ks likely won’t translate but the walk total is the telling number, he’s throwing strikes again.

  43. ohgodno July 30th, 2008 at 10:31 am

    I’d trade Girardi’s granola bars for Joe Maddon’s heavily bookmarked thesaurus.

  44. Jeff NJ July 30th, 2008 at 10:32 am

    Surprising that the bullpen blew up the last two days. Maybe we spoke to soon thinking this bullpen is the best in the league. They all could use a day off and Joba is the man-child to give it to them. I’m leaving for the game soon. Anyone jealous?

  45. Buck Hugh July 30th, 2008 at 10:32 am

    The other thing Flaherty says (or whomever is broadcasting) when someone goes the other way…”nice piece of hitting there” by ______________.

    would be funny when they scanned the crowd to say “nice piece of ash” there when some shapely thing walked by…

    would be funny if they said when either Jeter or Cano GIDP “well thats the upteeenth GIDP”

    would be funny if they ran a play by play when Sterling was at the buffet double dipping as usual

  46. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 10:33 am

    “Also, the guy never said the season was over. He never claimed that “4 games out with 2 months to play” was an impossible hill to climb. Relax”

    I’m the one that needs to relax? That’s comical….

    I wasn’t addressing that at one single post, I said people on here are manic from one second to the next and despite how pathetic the last 3 games were, the last week and a half has been massive improvements in the standings.

    But feel free to tell me I’m wrong about people ready to jump off a ledge then praising how good the team is from one second to another.

  47. Jersey July 30th, 2008 at 10:33 am

    I say we trade Jackson, Hughes, and Jesus (that kid in single A), for an impact pitcher….like Mark Redman in Colorado…or Josh Fogg in Cincy… or maybe, if we can with this package take a shot at Adam Eaton in Philly..

  48. Greg July 30th, 2008 at 10:33 am

    The Dodgers need a shorstop—-we need starting pitching. So why not send Betemit and 2 lower minor leaguers to LA for Derek Lowe. Then bring Gonzales back up as our utility infielder. The fact that LA is desperate–I mean desperate for a SS might make this happen.

    Also—a Trade of Melky, Betemit and a couple of minor leaguers to KC for Zack Grienke

    Starting rotation of Moose, Andy, Joba, Lowe and Grienke for the stretch run

  49. frits July 30th, 2008 at 10:33 am

    ohgodno –

    And two of those 4 BBs came in the first inning of last night’s game. So excluding those you have 2 in 20 innings. Not too shabby.

    It still remains to be seen if IPK will trust his stuff and not nibble around the corners. I know he doesn’t have blow-you-away pitches, but he has to throw strikes. I hope he can come up (replace Ponson) and do exactly that.

  50. DMan July 30th, 2008 at 10:33 am

    Betemit, Rasner, Ponson and Billy Traber for Josh Hamilton.

    But seriously, call up IPK already…

  51. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) July 30th, 2008 at 10:33 am

    “Surprising that the bullpen blew up the last two days. Maybe we spoke to soon thinking this bullpen is the best in the league. They all could use a day off and Joba is the man-child to give it to them. I’m leaving for the game soon. Anyone jealous?”

    Ever so slightly, yes I am.

  52. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 10:35 am

    I was at the game last night. The Yankees weren’t depressing at all. The Yankees were ripping the ball in the first three innings. Sometimes you don’t get lucky.

    that was my impression of last night. lots of bad luck for the yanks. and lots of cheap hits for the o’s…

  53. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 10:36 am

    greinke for kennedy melky cox/marquez/pope

  54. V July 30th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    No matter what, the Yanks MUST sign Tex next year. He can be our 1B for the next six to seven years. Let Giambi walk. He’s washed up.

    Unless Posada comes back in full form (which I highly doubt), he can be our fulltime DH and play 1B when Tex needs a night off.

  55. Buck Hugh July 30th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    You can’t trade Jesus, keep the faith

  56. ohgodno July 30th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    frits-
    I’d love to see him replace Ponson. I’ve been rooting for his return (hopefully triumphant). We need someone to stabilize the 4th spot in the rotation. All we need is 6-7 innings and 3ER and no BB (rather than 8,000 men on base like Ponson), I’d sign up for that in a second.

  57. SJ44 July 30th, 2008 at 10:38 am

    Kennedy hasn’t pitched all that great in AAA.

    Its more than just numbers for the Yankees determine if he is ready to come back.

    They look at several factors.

    Does he get ahead of hitters? Can he throw all of his pitches for strikes in any count? How is his changeup? He has had trouble with his changeup all year. How is his curveball (another trouble pitch for him this year)?

    So far, he has been consistently behind hitters early in games. His changeup has been so so, and his strikethrowing in any count has been better but, not yet good enough to beat major league hitters.

    Its more than just the raw numbers. Brett Gardner hit .300 in AAA and .150 in the majors. The raw numbers don’t always translate.

    If they can’t make a trade for a pitcher, they may be forced to use Kennedy earlier than they want to.

    He isn’t throwing the ball as well as he did last year. Hopefully, that changes in his next couple of starts.

    If the Yankees have their way, they would rather keep him in AAA until he is sharper.

  58. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 10:38 am

    the dodgers would never trade lowe for betemit and lower prospects. it would take some serious prospects. plus they said they wont trade him.

  59. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 10:38 am

    “The Yankees weren’t depressing at all. The Yankees were ripping the ball in the first three innings. Sometimes you don’t get lucky.”

    Exactly. Rasner pitched a pretty good game and was left in too long. That plus a lot of hard hits that just didn’t fall until it was too late. Last night wasn’t fun to watch but it was far from a beating.

  60. DMan July 30th, 2008 at 10:39 am

    “Surprising that the bullpen blew up the last two days. Maybe we spoke to soon thinking this bullpen is the best in the league. They all could use a day off and Joba is the man-child to give it to them. I’m leaving for the game soon. Anyone jealous?”

    Yup I’m jelious… I’m jelious of anyone who isn’t working right now.

  61. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 10:39 am

    Sidney Ponson and Wilson Betemit for Jeff Keppinger.

  62. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 10:40 am

    I’m the one that needs to relax? That’s comical….

    I wasn’t addressing that at one single post, I said people on here are manic from one second to the next and despite how pathetic the last 3 games were, the last week and a half has been massive improvements in the standings.

    The “relax” comment was said in jest. I Didn’t mean anything by it. Also, if you weren’t addressing that post, then don’t quote it.

    But feel free to tell me I’m wrong about people ready to jump off a ledge then praising how good the team is from one second to another.

    Nobody..ever said that..? Who said you were wrong about bandwagon/ledge jumpers? Not me.

  63. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 10:40 am

    I’m not sure when there has been a non-depressing loss – would that be the opposite of an ugly win? Until they make columns for those in the standings it is pretty irrelevant.

    All losses suck – and in baseball you are going to get 60-80 depressing nights a year even when you are over .500. People who cannot cope with that reality should find another hobby.

  64. frits July 30th, 2008 at 10:41 am

    SJ – agreed on all points except w/r/t the curve. chad jennings last night:

    “Manager Dave Miley said tonight was the best Kennedy’s curveball has been since his return from the disabled list. Kennedy had talked earlier about working on that pitch, and it seems to be helping. He said he was missing up in zone during the first inning tonight — hence the two walks — but he started concentrating on first-pitch strikes and that really helped. The kid is really dealing lately. “

  65. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 10:42 am

    why would we ever trade jackson hughes and montero. that would send us back into the annual close but no cigar seasons with aging veterans that the yankees have experienced for the last 8 years. we need all the youth we can get.

  66. Fleas - give me the ball Spike July 30th, 2008 at 10:42 am

    WHy is it that when the Yankee’s face someone like D. Cabrera who is known for his wildness and lots of walks.. do we do him favors and swing at everything?

    DOES THIS TEAM NOT KNOW HOW TO BE PATIENT AT THE PLATE ANYMORE??

  67. Buck Hugh July 30th, 2008 at 10:42 am

    That loss stung more so especially considering the Red Sox lost to LA…

  68. Axel July 30th, 2008 at 10:42 am

    Latroy to the Twins for Liriano.

  69. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 10:43 am

    Yankees have traded OF Brett Gardner for Pual byrd

    Pual Byrd, the spanish brother of Paul Byrd.

  70. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 10:44 am

    “The “relax” comment was said in jest. I Didn’t mean anything by it”.

    Fair enough..

    “Also, if you weren’t addressing that post, then don’t quote it.”

    I meant I wasn’t singling that one out from the rest, just using it as an example. That was/is hardly the lone post of it’s kind.

  71. Doreen July 30th, 2008 at 10:44 am

    The bullpen is just going through a little bump in the road. Everyone altogether. Good. Get it over with at one time. Then everyone can settle in again. You know the Yankees – they like to do things together! Slump together, play stellar ball together. At least it seems that way. :)

  72. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 10:44 am

    Potential Trade: Jose Molina for Jeff Kennard.

  73. stf July 30th, 2008 at 10:45 am

    Crappy – don’t event post if you do not know source.

  74. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 10:45 am

    I meant I wasn’t singling that one out from the rest, just using it as an example. That was/is hardly the lone post of it’s kind.

    Well then now we’re all set. Back to the stupid trade proposals! :-)

  75. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2008 at 10:46 am

    Flaherty
    “he reminds me of kermit the frog sometimes ”

    What’s up with his hair this year?

    I think they need to pull the trigger with this Washburn.
    There is such a small possibility that Gardner or Melky are going to develop into what we need in CF.
    Melky’s been a big dissapointment this year- 2 steps back from last year.
    I would love to have Gardner but he couldn’t hit MLB pitching at all and even if he eventually does, he doesn’t have any power at all.

    Washburn’s better than Ponson/Rasner no doubt. He even pinch ran for the M’s last night and scored a run. Come on have you ever seen that from a Yankee starter? Maybe he’s a gamer. We could use a guy like that. Next year is a contract year for him too. That’s another positive. It’s going to be hard catching up to the Rays/Sox and staying there running out Ponson/Rasner 2 out of 5 games. What if Andy or Mussina goes down. Every year Mussina goes through a rough patch and its usually in August.
    IPK had about 4 good games last year and we’re supposed to wait for him and come and save us.

  76. Peter Rabbit July 30th, 2008 at 10:46 am

    Crappy, where’s the source?

  77. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 10:47 am

    maybe Nady playing RF will help give him a jump start.

    who knows.. ill take anything at this point.

  78. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 10:48 am

    I would love to have Gardner but he couldn’t hit MLB pitching at all and even if he eventually does, he doesn’t have any power at all.

    If he could hit .275 – .300 with no power and blazing speed, that’s all the Yankees could really ask of him. You don’t need power to be successful in the majors.

  79. SJ44 July 30th, 2008 at 10:48 am

    Frits,

    I didn’t get the chance to see Kennedy pitch last night. I was in Charleston watching Hughes and Pavano.

    Its a good sign if he can start burying that curveball for strikes. Especially early in counts.

    IMO, its the biggest difference between the Kennedy of last year and this year. Last year, he could use his curveball to get ahead in counts and it sets up all of his other pitches.

    This year, he consistently missed on the curveball, allowing ML hitters to sit on his fastball and crush it.

    If he is going to be effective in the majors, he has to get the feel back on the curveball.

    It happens with pitchers. Two years ago, Moose had that almost moonball-like curve that he used to great effectiveness. Last year, he lost the feel of it and couldn’t throw it. This year, he has it back and its helped him a lot so far.

    Kennedy needs his curveball and changeup to be sharp in order to get outs at the major league level. Without it, he’s batting practice.

  80. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 10:49 am

    “Back to the stupid trade proposals!”

    lol

  81. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 10:49 am

    Crappy, where’s the source?

    Crappy – don’t event post if you do not know source.

    He’s obviously lying. It only caught your attention because it isn’t as outrageous as the other trades here. It looks tame by comparison.

  82. Peter Rabbit July 30th, 2008 at 10:50 am

    Don’t be done with Brett just yet. Gardner’s needed time to adjust his bat every time he’s been promoted.

  83. Ian July 30th, 2008 at 10:51 am

    Just wondering everyones thought if Matsui comes back. Do we move Damon to CF and use Melky as a late game defensive replacement in order to maximize the lineup?

    Damon CF
    Jeter SS
    Abreu RF
    Rodriguez 3b
    Matsui DH
    Cano 2b
    Giambi 1b
    Nady LF
    Molina C

    I’m not saying that’s the order, but that’s a pretty deep lineup.

  84. Buck Hugh July 30th, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Pete Abraham to springsteen.com for little steven and a writer to be named later

  85. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 10:52 am

    Matsui isn’t coming back…

  86. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Doesn’t look like Matsui’s coming back, but if he is, I guess they go back to what they were doing before he was hurt, rotating him and Damon in left and DH, Matsui getting mostly DH duty.

    But again, that’s a big IF.

  87. SJ44 July 30th, 2008 at 10:54 am

    Matsui isn’t coming back and Damon isn’t going to CF.

    His shoulder is barely healthy to play LF. He’s not going to CF.

    Don’t count on Matsui and Wang for the rest of the year. Its highly doubtful either guy will be able to make it back this season.

  88. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 10:54 am

    He hit 20 from a tee the other day – but I share Patrick’s pessimism – that knee has already swelled up once in rehab.

  89. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 10:55 am

    My friend out in LA is wondering if we could take Andruw Jones off her hands.

    But then, when I tried to tell her about Torre’s bullpen managing skills, her response was “I guess it’s bad that proctor and Saito are on the DL”

    ….erm. Yeah?

  90. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 10:56 am

    20 from a tee? did he at least swing a broomstick first? i thought that was the first step. i’d hate to see him rushed ;)

  91. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 10:58 am

    A good article on the Tabata/Marte/Nady trade:

    http://web.minorleaguebaseball.....;fext=.jsp

  92. Del The Funkee Homosapien July 30th, 2008 at 10:59 am

    this team is just one big rhymes with block tease

  93. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 10:59 am

    Can we trade Eric Milton to the Twins for Justin Morneau?

  94. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:01 am

    MLBtraderumors.com says Washburn deal is dead.

  95. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 11:02 am

    http://www.nypost.com/seven/07.....122174.htm

    sorry to bring in a little mets stuff, but i think that he is a perfect fit for that team. 1)its mostly a latino club,and he hates the red sox now because they dont give him any respect. 2) he would distroy there club house!!!!!!!!!!!

  96. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 11:02 am

    matsui is not coming back.

    Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) : hitting .275 – .300 with no power for a MLB CF is not acceptable; that type of profile is a 4th outfielder or a scrappy utility player who can pinch run.

    you dont need power, agreed; but you need to produce by getting on base alot and hitting above .300 (ala Ichiro, Bernie, a healthy damon, etc.)

    Sorry to all the brett gardner lovers out there, but realistically i dont see him being a bigtime player.

  97. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 11:03 am

    Yankees have made a trade

    Hahaha. Being as blunt and concise as you are here will surely get a few people to say “er..wait..what trade? details?” even though you’re clearly talking out of your opposite-end-backside-region.

  98. frits July 30th, 2008 at 11:05 am

    brent – clearly talking out of his ASS. is the word you’re looking for.

  99. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 11:05 am

    The Washburn deal can happen at any time before August 31st.

    Because no one else will want to take on his full contract and no players will be going back to the Mariners (at least as the Yankees would construct it) the trade deadline passing by makes no difference.

  100. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 11:06 am

    my trade would be 1)carl pavano, 2)Nady- for a good pitcher
    somewhere like oswald or try to make an under cover deal with a team to snatch a roy holliday , the blue jays will trade it to a team like the astros and the yankees should trade with the astros after that!

  101. Yazman (David) July 30th, 2008 at 11:06 am

    Here’s what IPK has done since coming back to SWB:

    Date OPP W L ERA SV IP H ER BB SO
    Jul 03 @LHV 0 1 4.50 0 2.0 2 1 2 0
    Jul 08 @TOL 0 1 4.50 0 4.0 5 2 3 4
    Jul 13 @COL 0 0 7.20 0 5.0 6 4 3 6
    Jul 19 @LHV 1 0 1.29 0 7.0 3 1 1 2
    Jul 24 RIC 0 0 0.00 0 7.0 1 0 0 7
    Jul 29 @SYR 1 0 1.50 0 6.0 3 1 3 5
    Totals 3 2 2.06 0 39.1 22 9 12 32

    He’s been dominating the last 3 games in a row (20 IP, 7 hits, 2 ER, 3 BB, 14 Ks).

    http://www.minorleaguebaseball.....pid=453178

    In his last MLB two games, he pitched 9 innings, 4 ER, 8 H, 4 BB, 8 Ks).

  102. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:06 am

    To whoever said that the Yankees should give up because the Angels got Tex…

    Good pitching always beats good hitting. If the Yankees go into the postseason with Joba, Moose, and Pettitte (assuming they pitch the way they have all season) plus possibly (I hope) Wang or Hughes, I think they can beat any team.

  103. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 11:07 am

    you dont need power, agreed; but you need to produce by getting on base alot and hitting above .300 (ala Ichiro, Bernie, a healthy damon, etc.)

    Sorry to all the brett gardner lovers out there, but realistically i dont see him being a bigtime player.

    True. Hopefully you’re wrong, though. :-)

  104. John July 30th, 2008 at 11:08 am

    HOW CAN THIS BE TRUE: The Yankees are 10-9 in games started by Darrell Rasner and Sidney Ponson.

    Ponson has the highest run support of any Yankees pitcher? Rasner is still living off his good start (how much can he milk off of that?)

    Feel free to post your totally unrealistic trade idea. Everybody else seems to be.

    Certainly!…

    The Yankees trade with Heaven for Jesus Christ. Jesus is the left specialist / starting pitcher / power bat the Yankees are looking for. He plugs well into the linup… anywhere. In exchange, Heaven receives Carl Pavano and agrees to pay the rest of Pavano’s salary.

    Unfortunately, the trade gets nixed by the Steinbrenners when Jesus comes out and says that he loves all the teams equally. A team press release reads: “While we are pleased with JC’s on-field performance, we do not want anyone who does not want to play for the Yankees first.”

  105. David Cone's Labrum July 30th, 2008 at 11:08 am

    A win today makes the Yanks 9-3 since the break. I think everyone here would take that – in effect, 3 straight series wins at home.

  106. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 11:08 am

    saucY – weren’t those ‘dry swings with a broomstick’.

    I’d hate to think of the alternative :)

  107. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 11:08 am

    brent – clearly talking out of his ASS. is the word you’re looking for.

    My bad.

  108. David Cone's Labrum July 30th, 2008 at 11:09 am

    Oops – sorry – 3 straights series wins at one loss at home.

    Regardless, 9-3 ain’t shabby.

  109. #9 July 30th, 2008 at 11:09 am

    “Who thinks Yanks sign Tex in the winter to replace Big G”

    With a 95% chance that Manny is not back in Boston next year – I would expect Sox would be more motivated to go after him.

  110. John July 30th, 2008 at 11:10 am

    I watched Kennedy and he was dealing. His fastball was around the 89-91 mph more torwards the high 80′s. He never got in to trouble except for the 1st inning when he walked a few batters. The Syracuse Chiefs never hit him hard.

    Bruney was throwing gas at 95 although his control was an issue. he got into and out of a bases loaded Jam.

  111. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 11:11 am

    Ian: Johnny Damon will never be a full-time CF again. If Matsui comes back he will be a pinch-hitter at best or the Yanks will release Sexson and use Nady as are 1b when Giambi needs a day off

  112. dimagg5 July 30th, 2008 at 11:12 am

    SJ44,

    How did Hughes look? Do you think he can still be a # 1 or # 2 type starter?

  113. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 11:12 am

    #9 If the Sox go after TEX then who is leaving there?? Youk, Lowell, or Big Papi?? We have the best chance outside of Angels of getting TEX

  114. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 11:13 am

    #9 –

    The Sox don’t really have a place to put him with Lowell at 3rd, Youk at 1st and Big Papi at DH.

    Youk and Lowell are very very good defensively at their positions.

  115. Matt-LI July 30th, 2008 at 11:13 am
  116. gayle July 30th, 2008 at 11:14 am

    I am somewhat surprised at the Angels trade on a couple of levels that maybe someone who knows the Angels more than I can asnwer:

    1.Do they have another first baseman in their system. It seems to me that Kotchman although having a down year offensively is a really really good defensive 1st baseman and he is under their control for a few more years.

    2. All we have heard about Tex is that the teams that made sense for free agency were on the East Coast. With Boras as his agent and knowing how close he is to the Angels do they now move into the driver seat to sign him. If that is the case then the trade does make sense.

  117. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:14 am

    I can’t believe people are so down on Rasner. Two runs through six innings?! I wish every Yankee pitcher would do that every time out. The big problem is that the Yankees have a rotation of a #2, #2, #3, #5, #5. They need to upgrade to a #4. Now before you jump all over me, I know there is not an exact science in my rankings, but I’m thinking Joba, Pettitte, Moose, Rasner, Ponson. I think Kennedy gets the call if Ponson is terrible next time. That might be all they need. (Disclaimer: This is just my opinion, no numbers or facts went into this analysis)

  118. Matt-LI July 30th, 2008 at 11:16 am

    Gayle

    They have Morales, though I have heard that they aren’t too high on him. I haven’t checked his numbers of late, so I have no idea how he has been this season.

    LAA now has first rights I believe to try and sign him. Most likely though he will file for free agency and the Tex Sweepstakes will become a free-for-all.

  119. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:16 am

    John,

    Kennedy may have been dealing but Syracuse has a terrible lineup.

  120. PL July 30th, 2008 at 11:16 am

    Peter, while we’re waiting for the game to start, could you please have them stop the PC Richard whistle after a strikeout?

    What is this, Shea?

  121. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 11:16 am

    Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) .. i hope im wrong too.

    ive been down and beating up the yanks all year and i hope they prove me wrong and make me eat my words.. unfortunately im realistic

  122. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2008 at 11:17 am

    About Gardner
    “If he could hit .275 – .300 with no power and blazing speed, that’s all the Yankees could really ask of him. You don’t need power to be successful in the majors.”

    Agreed but he hit half that average and struck out way too much. He’s the fastest Yankee I can remember and he could probably parlay that into some hot defense but at this point at least he’s not even close to being a MLB hitter.

  123. John July 30th, 2008 at 11:18 am

    EricVA,

    I agree that the Chiefs lineup blows, although thats two good starts in a row which is something to build on.

  124. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 11:18 am

    Joba isn’t a number 1 starter?

    okay . . .

  125. Matt-LI July 30th, 2008 at 11:19 am

    Eric

    It was actually 4 runs through 6. Marte allowed his 2 inherited runners to score. Rasner’s problem is his WHIP. He has been getting lucky and working out of jams almost every start. He pretty much did his job last night though, considering he is basically a number 4/5.

  126. gayle July 30th, 2008 at 11:20 am

    You know the funny thing about that whistle I never notice it when I am at the Stadium for some reason I only hear it when watching the game on TV.I was saying to myself the other night did they just start doing this as I had never heard it before.

  127. BillyMartinRules July 30th, 2008 at 11:21 am

    I have to say, A-Rod regardless of what is career stats show is a bust when he comes up in big time spots with RISP. His stats as a Yankee in late game clutch spots have to show that he is average at best in those spots. 9 years of this guy will be a roller coaster for sure. One day you love the guy, next day you wish you had Melvin Mora instead, lol! Lets not go that far but the reality of it is that many Yankee fans like myself seem to feel that this guy is not clutch in big time spots.

  128. Original V July 30th, 2008 at 11:21 am

    Kennedy isn’t as good as Rasner. He needs to be traded.

  129. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:21 am

    John,

    It’s been at least 3 good starts in a row.

    Plus, Chad Jennings mentions that Bruney hit 95 consistently last night. Does that mean he’s close to coming up? And who do we send down?

  130. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 11:21 am

    If we go 500, the rest of the way.

    86-76, does anyone think this will win the WC?

  131. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:23 am

    Matt,

    I wasn’t counting the 7th inning. In my mind he never should’ve gone out there. But you’re right, even 4 runs into the 7th is a job well done. No reason the Yankees can’t win that game other than poor at-bats.

  132. BillyMartinRules July 30th, 2008 at 11:23 am

    Enough with Melky please! Pull him out of the lineup for a few days and get his bat straighten out. He is awful to watch. Give it a rest Joe. Put Christian out there, just get Melky’s bat out of the lineup!

  133. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 11:24 am

    gayle:

    On ESPN last night, someone from the Angels organization sadi they have 2, good 1st base prospects.

  134. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 11:24 am

    Sarfate eh? A journeyman, who the Yankees will make look like Cy Young.

  135. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:24 am

    Tim,

    No because Rays and Sox are on pace for more. Probably a team from the central as well.

  136. Alfred July 30th, 2008 at 11:24 am

    Has anyone seen Tampa Bay’s September schedule, I predict a collapse of Metsian proportions

  137. BillyMartinRules July 30th, 2008 at 11:25 am

    Those imbeciles at RAB are hard to stomach with there ridiculous postings each day. LOHUD rules!

  138. Peter Rabbit July 30th, 2008 at 11:25 am

    Here are some photos I found of Phil Hughes and Pavano from their rehab assignments last night:

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/skyliner72/

  139. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 11:25 am

    I’ve looked at Bruney’s stats, and despite his high-radar gun readings, his control doesn’t seem to be there just yet.

  140. gayle July 30th, 2008 at 11:26 am

    Here is my proposed trade:

    Michael Kay,Brett Gardner, LaTroy Hawkins, Ian Kennedy to the DODGERS for

    Vin Scully and Kershaw

    Had to throw in an extra player in order to make the trade even for Scully.

  141. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:26 am

    SJ:

    Did Hughes (and Pavano I guess) look like they were going all out last night or did they look like they were holding back still? That was Hughes’ problem last year coming back from injury.

  142. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 11:26 am

    I just explained why Brett Gardner is not a legit MLB starter.

    now lets discuss Kennedy, cause im tired of everyone’s infatuation with him.

    Kennedy does not throw hard and he does not have a “nasty” pitch. He is purely a control pitcher that needs to hit his spots. He is literally exactly like Mussina is NOW. not the young Mussina, but what Mussina is now at the age of 39. At least Moose can get away with it cause he has enough experience and confidence to be “crafty”, Ian cannot. Think about that for a minute. Pitchers that fool hitters with offspeed junk and hitting corners are good for a game or two, but if they are off, they get crushed. Guys like Moose and Maddux can pull it off cause they are who they are… Kennedy cannot. Dont look at his minor league numbers, cause all the ground balls and fly outs he gets in the minors get crushed by mlb hitters. Plus the calls he gets in the minors on pitches, he wont get in the majors.

    Kennedy is NOT going to be a legit MLB pitcher.

  143. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:28 am

    Gayle:

    The Dodgers are already paying millions of dollars for Brett Gardner wannabe Juan Pierre. So we might have to throw in Suzyn Waldman. (PLEASE)

  144. John July 30th, 2008 at 11:29 am

    EicaVA,

    I saw Bruney hit 95 a few times, although i thought he hit 93 more consistently. I didn’t seem to me like he was ready, I thought his control was shakey. I’m not sure when he would be brought up and I really don’t know who you send down or DFA. He certainly would be an asset if he can regain his early season form.

  145. gayle July 30th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Eric since Vin does BOTH TV and radio how about we keep Waldman and throw in Sterling lol

  146. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    YankVIP:

    Agree with your IPK assessment except for your contention that he’s not going to be a legit MLB pitcher. I do think he can be a legit bottom of the rotation guy (read: #4 or #5).

  147. David Cone's Labrum July 30th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    Timothy – no chance.

    Need 10 more wins than that to assue ourselves of a spot, WC or other.

    That’s 38-18, starting today.

  148. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:30 am

    YankeeVIP:

    How can you say “guys like Moose and Maddox can pull it off because they are who they are” and then say somebody else cannot? If some pitchers can do it then others can as well. I’m not saying Kennedy is Maddox or even Moose, but there are successful MLB pitchers that pitch like them.

  149. Original V July 30th, 2008 at 11:31 am

    Kennedy should be moved now while his value is high.

  150. Matt-LI July 30th, 2008 at 11:32 am

    Here is my outrageous trade proposal…

    Kim Jones for Erin Andrews

    I’ll do the physicals, though it might take me a while to process Erin’s… ;)

  151. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 11:33 am

    John,

    I have a feeling they’ll keep him in Scranton until September. I’m not convinced he’ll be better than anybody in the pen right now.

    Gayle,

    Absolutely. Take Sterling. Can we get LaRoche in return?

  152. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 11:33 am

    “Kennedy is NOT going to be a legit MLB pitcher.”

    Every other talent scout who has ever seen him pitch seem to disagree with your assessment. I’ve never heard anyone say that he won’t at least be a number 5 pitcher. Therefore I’ll just ignore what your biased lying eyes tell you.

  153. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 11:35 am

    so Yankee VIP knows tht Grdner is snot a legit major league player.. Interesting, what team do you work for??

    So this is the logic on this board, trade 24 yr old who has done very well in AA because he hit 150 in 65 Ab’s at the major league level, because he is not a 5 toll WIllie Mays..

    Interesting logic, and the Yankee depth in the outfield is ? And the guy they are trading for is Washbum, a 34 yr old guy, who is overpaid, and not very good.

    VIP since I am trying to not insult people on the blog going forward I will just say you are an —–.

    I am not saying Gardner will be a more discipline Juan Pierre in the future but he may…….

  154. hambone slymnax July 30th, 2008 at 11:35 am

    Ponson’s liquor cabinet key for Len Sakata’s goggles

  155. Original V July 30th, 2008 at 11:35 am

    A number 5 starter isn’t legit in the Yankee world. Trade Kennedy now while he still has value.

  156. William Buckner July 30th, 2008 at 11:36 am

    How can you say Kennedy isn’t a major league pitcher – he was one to open the season?

    He’s 23. He isn’t overpowering, but when he learns to pitch he can be at least 4th level starter.

    Even Ryan said so.

  157. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 11:36 am

    5 tool and AAA for my last post…

  158. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 11:37 am

    Im worried about Bruney throwing so hard. His issue was always he tried to throw so hard that he had no control..

    i forgot what he was hitting earlier this year before the injury, but he had good control and hitting his spots effectively. thats critical for him

  159. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 11:39 am

    “So this is the logic on this board, trade 24 yr old who has done very well in AA because he hit 150 in 65 Ab’s at the major league level, because he is not a 5 toll WIllie Mays..”

    Stuart, scouts seem to more or less agree that Gardner is not an everyday player at this level. I know 75 or so plate appearances is a small sample, but he truly looked lost and hopelessly overmatched at the plate.

  160. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 11:40 am

    I hope Cy Young and Nolan Ryan, sorry I mean Hughes and Kennedy pan out…Because we really have no other options. IMO

  161. Real World July 30th, 2008 at 11:41 am

    So Kennedy isn’t going to make it as a major league pitcher cuz he throws like Mussina? Is that the same Mussina that has 13 wins this year, and an ERA of 3.56? Sheesh.

  162. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 11:41 am

    I’d try to get Jeff Keppinger from the Reds right now if they can Alberto Gonzalez + Wilson Betemit for Jeff Keppinger. (Kepp is a part time player and Cincy is not getting results w/ him playing everyday)

    Catching you know what I would do

    Texas Salty for Kennedy

    Those two deals do 2 things 1 we get a bat that is use to the utility role in Keppinger and 2 we get a catcher that can hit the ball and not be a rally killer.

  163. Original V July 30th, 2008 at 11:41 am

    Gardner isn’t half the player Melky is. He should go too while hid value is high.

  164. trisha - Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth! July 30th, 2008 at 11:42 am

    When I was reading the forum below this one and read all the consternation about the way people posts during games an idea came to me, but I didn’t get to post it until now. If Pete would try this with a game thread (I seriously doubt he would) it could potentially satisfy all parties and perhaps even get back some of the people who don’t want to post during games. He could have two separate game forums: One would be the “What he can’t throw a strike????/HERE WE GO AGAIN!/Yankees are a mediocre team/I can’t believe he swung at the first pitch!/You gotta be KIDDING me!/Could this offense stink anymore!/Trade Melky!/Trade Cano!/Trade Jeter!/Trade Arod!/DFA Ponson!/Abreu stinks, Abreu’s afraid of walls oh my God!/This team sucks!!!/I think I’m going to throw up in my mouth!/THIS TEAM HAS NO HEART!/Can we get rid of Giambi fast enough???/DFA Cashman!/DFA Girardi” thread, aka, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT????? Or if Pete wanted to make sure that people would go there in droves, he could name it the TRISHA IS AN IDIOT

  165. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 11:42 am

    BTW you heard it here first I came from talking w/ some people before I came back to the work desk Manny wants to go to Philly.

  166. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 11:42 am

    The sad thing is – the Yanks would have gained two games on Bahston had they just had the ability to beat a crappy O’s team.

  167. Danny July 30th, 2008 at 11:43 am

    I love trisha

  168. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 11:43 am

    Sarfate pitches a 67 pitch no-no.

    keven long deep in thought watches the game from the dugout fence.

    meacham not receiving any runners at 3rd all game attempts to send melvin mora home all game with no luck.

  169. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 11:44 am

    Fredo that is fine for Gardner not being an everyday player which I dispute.. My point is Washbum is still not worth it.. He is a salary dump.. Gardner can be 4th OF for the next 5 yrs..

    Gardner can be a late inning baserunner, etc.. He has more value then Jarrod Washbum at this point in his career in my opinion. ANd the scouts on gardner, again it is premature to sell him off. He is not the next willie mays obviously but give the guy some time… 5 sb’s and 7 rbi.s with a 150 avg in 60 + plate appearances, he is 24…..

  170. Fox July 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am

    Brandon is obsessed with trades.

  171. Andrew July 30th, 2008 at 11:45 am

    Why, then, YankeeVIP, is he somebody that is projected to in fact become a legit MLB pitcher? Why do other teams want him? Why will Cashman not immediately just throw the Mariners a bone and acquire Washburn or some other hack “legit” MLB pitcher?

    “All the ground outs and fly outs he gets in the minors get crushed by MLB hitters”–how do you know that? If his stuff is so bad, and it’s all about location, wouldn’t his mediocre stuff be getting hit around even by minor leaguers?

    It’s comical how much vitriolic anti-Kennedy sentiment there is, and the reasons for it are all equally comical. He doesn’t have a nasty enough pitch, he doesn’t light up the radar gun, he’s a poor man’s Mussina or Maddux, he has the wrong attitude for NY, etc. etc.

    There is zero chance of him being given any wiggle room to develop in New York. If he gets called up and doesn’t pitch shutout, walk-free ball for 6 innings he will be getting ripped all over this stupid blog. I hope he gets traded between now and Thursday just so I can stop reading about how he’s a joke and the Yankees are wasting their time with him, etc.

    The guy is just a #4 starter, and he is immediately better than Sidney Ponson. But it really won’t matter, because if he has a bad start people will be calling for whoever is this week’s scrap-heap internet delight (Washburn, Freddy Garcia, Livan, whoever…)

  172. gayle July 30th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    brandon as I said when you first brought it up I will personally go to Boston and drive him down to Philly. Love to get him back with Charlie

  173. trisha - Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth! July 30th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    (continued)

    Or if Pete wanted to make sure that people would go there in droves, he could name it the TRISHA IS AN IDIOT game thread.

    The other forum would be the “Uh oh, I hope this isn’t what I think it is/Damn I wish he wouldn’t swing at the first pitch/They still have a chance/I’m disappointed that we lost but tomorrow’s another day/I still have faith in this team/Hey it’s not all bad!/Look at the positive here/I still think this team is great/I still believe we’ll be there in October/I love this team!” game thread, aka GO YANKEES!!! This thread would be for people who sometimes voice disappointment but realize it is momentary and in the bigger picture there are lots of positives.

    The rules would be that nobody from the first thread could invade on the second thread, and vice versa. I guarantee you that you would have two “satisfied” groups of posters and it would probably eradicate the majority of the in-fighting that goes on during games!

    Pete, what do you think of trying it at least once? If someone from the dark side crossed over to the light side, or vice versa, that person would be so outnumbered that he or she wouldn’t care to stick around!

  174. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    “Manny wants to go to Philly”

    doesnt mean he wants to stay there. he wants a yankee contract where he can just DH. he wants to go anywhere this season just to make sure he gets out of that option hes got.

  175. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 11:47 am

    have not been sold, on Kennedy. Not even last year. His starts (last year) had many hard hit balls. From my view, very lucky.

    if I had to do it over, i accept the Twins offer: Wang/Kennedy/Melky for Santana.

    would I have done the trade in the off-season? Yes. I would not have moved Hughes, tho.

    it doesn’t matter. I understand why Cashman didn’t trade for Santana. And to tell the truth, it made spring training and the potential for 2008 more exciting/interesting. Maybe Kennedy will prove me wrong. Do not expect it, tho.

  176. Mike July 30th, 2008 at 11:48 am

    great idea trisha. We can call the negative defeatist board the sj44 board.

  177. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    I’m so glad Melky’s out there again today. He’s just awesome!

    Melky Cabrera has gone 40 at-bats without an RBI and has four RBI in his past 35 games (132 at-bats).

  178. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    “if I had to do it over, i accept the Twins offer: Wang/Kennedy/Melky for Santana.”

    its sad you dont see this the way everyone else does.

  179. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 11:50 am

    stuart. .thanks for the polite non insult there…

    so if i understand your logic, a 24 yr old who can hit AA/AAA pitching is your definition of a legit top prospect and the future of the yankees…

    Gardner has some talent and legit skills. But look at his game and fundamental skills. He is exactly the same as Pierre, Eckstein and thousand other players. Meaning he is nothing special and is not someone you hold onto if you can make a good trade (not saying washburn.. of course not for him). It would be great if I am wrong, but realistically you cannot imagine him coming up the bigs anytime soon and hitting .330 and being an above avg player.

    Look, I get how everyone loves minor league numbers and all that, but the difference between AAA and the bigs is huge. HUGE. You need to look at the fundamentals of a player (ie., can he hit all types of pitches, does he have a hole in his swing, etc.) more so then his numbers.

  180. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 11:52 am

    fred I’m just going to say he hasn’t mentioned to my friend’s people playing in NY.

  181. El Guapo July 30th, 2008 at 11:53 am

    Guys,

    Those 8 in a row were a total fluke, an aberration in an otherwise ugly season. Unfortunately the Yankees are back to being the tepid, limp and heartless team they have been since the beginning of play. Sorry to be realistic, but they are not making the playoffs this year.

  182. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 11:53 am

    Peter Rabbit, thanks for the link. Pavano looks thrilled to be there.

  183. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 11:53 am

    Kennedy should be moved now while his value is high.

    It’s not that high, and your time would be better spent “fixing” him for the rotation..not for trades

  184. sevrox July 30th, 2008 at 11:54 am

    TKinDC: “All losses suck – and in baseball you are going to get 60-80 depressing nights a year even when you are over .500. People who cannot cope with that reality should find another hobby.”

    Thank you.

  185. Doreen July 30th, 2008 at 11:54 am

    Trisha -

    That was seriously hysterical! :lol:

  186. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    For the life of me I cannot understand the absolute faith people on this blog have in Ian Kennedy. What do you people base this on. It must be on his 3 starts last year because it can’t obviously be on anything from this year. There were plenty of guys that had a good debut with the Yanks last year including such names as
    Rasner
    Karstens
    Clippard
    De Salvo

    It means nothing!!

    Now Kennedy is supposed to save our season. I call this the Cashman Kool-Aid. We drank it up during the off-season and it still has many in its viselike grip.
    Liberate yourselves!!!

    The yankees have more pitchers “getting looks” or rehabbing than the rest of the AL east combined. Anybody have any word on how Milton and Zambrano are doing. More garbage for the kings of refuse.

  187. stf July 30th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    “if I had to do it over, i accept the Twins offer: Wang/Kennedy/Melky for Santana.”

    Are you kidding me??? You’re nuts!

  188. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    Bob(The Original)
    July 30th, 2008 at 11:50 am
    I’m so glad Melky’s out there again today. He’s just awesome!

    Melky Cabrera has gone 40 at-bats without an RBI and has four RBI in his past 35 games (132 at-bats).

    if this is true we goota dump him now!!!!!

  189. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    “if I had to do it over, i accept the Twins offer: Wang/Kennedy/Melky for Santana.”

    I don’t. No way I include Wang in that deal.

  190. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    saucy you’d be thrilled to knowing your not going to pitch for 4 years and get paid what Pavano is getting.

  191. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 11:55 am

    Good Morning,
    So i turned off the game in the top of the 9th inning and come to find out that we ALMOST pulled it off. I hope that inner fight rolls over to this game. I cant believe that Marte was getting hammered out there. He looked more like Heredia than himself. Hopefully he got that out of his system.
    Can someone tell Rivera its o.k. to pitch lights out even if its not a save situation. This division is dying for us to take it over.

    My prediction. We win today and take 3 out of 4 vs. Halos. Just the type of team this is. Plays to the level of their opponents.

  192. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 11:56 am

    “if I had to do it over, i accept the Twins offer: Wang/Kennedy/Melky for Santana.”

    Thank god nobody asks you for your opinion on trades. Wang is our ace, Kennedy is going to fit into our rotation somewhere, and Melky does what we need him to do decently.

    Given Johan’s questionable dropoff in “stuff” this year and his humongous salary, I wouldn’t trade Wang for Johan straight-up, let alone the other two you threw in.

  193. Paul July 30th, 2008 at 11:57 am

    My spin on Ian Patrick Kennedy’s game against Syracuse last night:
    Unimpressive.
    85 pitches (or so) through 6 innings, got into 3 jams and wiggled out against a low talent team…3 hits and 1 run but his top speed was 92 only twice…most of his other fast balls were mid 80’s… a lot of his stuff was a lot less and some crazy off speed stuff 54, 57 mph.

    He had a bad fielding error off a bunt to the third base side of the mound…a ridiculous balk and a wild pitch. Can’t say he was impressed with his performance either, in spite of his line…5 k’s and 3 walks.
    Bruney came in in the 6th and was chucking 95 on the radar: 2 walks 2 hits 2 k’s…lost the plate for a while…it’d never fly in the majors for either…

  194. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 11:57 am

    Again Yankee VIP then trade Grdner for a good player.. Washbum is not a worthwhile move.

    Also I like how you added legit TOP prospect in there.. I never said TOP prospect read my posts. I said prospect.. That is the difference. between hughes and kennedy, or Melancon and chase wright, the word TOP.. And saying there are many gardner types out there like eckstein, pierre, etc. to me is not a bad thing.. You will never have a team of 13 or 14 5 tool players, it will never happen.. Again if Gardner winds up being a glorified Homer Bush he is still more valuable to the Yanks at present and for the future then Jarrod Washbum..

    How hard is this to understand?

  195. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 11:59 am

    Be quiet. Melky’s a good player.

  196. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 11:59 am

    Be quiet. Melky’s a good player.

  197. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 11:59 am

    With our remaining schedule, I hope we finish at least 500.

    There are allot of road games, against tuff teams that are good at home.

  198. sevrox July 30th, 2008 at 11:59 am

    “Or if Pete wanted to make sure that people would go there in droves, he could name it the TRISHA IS AN IDIOT”

    lol

  199. ITALIANO!!!!! July 30th, 2008 at 12:00 pm

    Stop with the nonsense trade talk…. The Yankees aren’t getting Salty or whatever you want to call him for Kennedy. WHO WOULD DO THIS? Also, the only problem we really have right now is a SP. Kennedy should get Ponson’s start, but he may have another start in AAA. Phil Hughes seems more likely then anyone right now to make an impact and his name is consistently brought up as someone who will come up in September or a little before.

    If The Yanks could still get Washburn, which is becoming more unlikely they should. Melky Cabrera probly isn’t going anywhere so get that out your head. Should he be starting? NO, but Gardner didn’t prove he could handle the Majors yet and that isn’t a knock on him. If Austin Jackson were putting his AA numbers up in AAA, how many of you think Melky is still in CF?

    It all comes down to what the YANKEES NEED not WHAT YOU THINK WOULD BE NICE! Like adding a catcher who can’t catch (SALTY) for a SP who SHOULD HELP this season (KENNEDY)… When you talk Baseball talk with some knowledge or don’t talk at all!

  200. Fire Girardi July 30th, 2008 at 12:01 pm

    Melky is going to hit a grand slam today.

  201. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 12:02 pm

    more pavano/huges pictures

    http://www.charleston.net/phot.....ball/4259/

  202. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 12:03 pm

    Be quiet. Melky’s a good player.

    I REALLY hope you are being sarcastic.

    He’s garbage.

  203. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Be quiet. Melky’s a good player.

    I REALLY hope you are being sarcastic.

    He’s garbage.

    __

    Your wrong. Go away, troll.

  204. Doris From Rego Park July 30th, 2008 at 12:04 pm

    Zach Greinke to the rescue

  205. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    I respect your take, but Kennedy is not the answer..

  206. trisha - Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth! July 30th, 2008 at 12:05 pm

    Doreen thanks! :D And thanks to anyone who appreciated my idea.

    Of course it had to get cut off at a critical point. So I am going to post the whole thing again in its entirety. I hope you don’t mind. It just makes so much more sense when you see it as one post!

    :lol:

  207. NYY July 30th, 2008 at 12:06 pm

    gayle:

    On ESPN last night, someone from the Angels organization sadi they have 2, good 1st base prospects.

    It was their GM talking on ESPN. They have Kendrick Morales who they are high on and another player at AA who they are high on as well.

  208. Rockin' Rich July 30th, 2008 at 12:07 pm

    Pete;

    can we send get well cards to Jorgie c/o the stadium or is there a better address?

    Please post it so we can send our guy some fan-love! Thanks!

  209. MooseCall July 30th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Why not Oswalt? Kennedy, Melky, and another prospect for Oswalt.

  210. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    btw, BoSox, their fans and management should be ashamed of themselves for all this manny nonsense.. its pathetic how they play this stupid game year after year.

    Just come out and admit that they are a bunch of whinny punks that dont have the cajones to make a trade and standup to their own players. I mean really, Epstein and the owners are cowards to let Manny pull his antics and just put their tail between their legs then run and hide.

    redsox fans should be ashamed they root for a guy who acts like this with complete disregard for the team, the game, his teammates and the uniform he wears. When you have to live be a credo like “manny being manny”.. thats just insulting.

  211. ITALIANO!!!!! July 30th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Stop with this MELKY IS GOOD… He isnt a Starter anywhere in the MLB…. he got 20 EXTRA BASE HITS!!!!! 20!! TWENTY!

    Melky is a nice person and the players like him, but dont say he is a very good ball player and he should be starting!

  212. Joba July 30th, 2008 at 12:08 pm

    Are you kidding about Melky being a good player. He is one of the WORST centerfielders in baseball. You need to learn how to evaultate talent.

  213. Andrew July 30th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    Oswalt isn’t healthy, also he hasn’t even pitched up to his Roy Oswalt reputation this year. I don’t know if you want to trade the farm for someone that might not translate to pitching in the AL East and might be past their best years (his K numbers have been going down steadily).

  214. rb15 July 30th, 2008 at 12:10 pm

    weei in Boston said maybe youk to left and texeiera to first. Sounds redic … And yet not?

    Wedding on Saturday guys! During gametime :( but still. See you all when I’m a mrs!

  215. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    Melky will be as good as Alex Rios next year.

  216. Aaron(I agree w. Pete, no more trade talks.. its annoying) July 30th, 2008 at 12:11 pm

    stop with the trade talks, 95% r stupid, and not realistic.

    if the Yanks are going to do anything, its more then likely it will be within, I think we should go out and do something, but i doubt they’re going to. so stop talking about it.
    go back to work
    go watch the game and stop talking on the blog, this is why half of your idea’s suck because your to busy writing on the blog instead of watching the damn game.

    Melky’s staying, he’s the Yankees best option in CF until Jackson is ready.

    and to the guy who said put Damon back in CF, ure an idiot. they should DFA you from this blog. Pete suspend that guy or something, get rid of him. Send him back down to the minors blog.

  217. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    I really hope your not talking WORST CF from a defensive standpoint.

    For all of Melky’s offensive problems, he has been one of the best defensive CFs in the league. Hands Down.

    Cant really defend his offense though

  218. Joba July 30th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    Melky being as good as Alex Rios next year is like the chances of the Knicks winning the NBA championship…..None, Zero, Yada

  219. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 12:12 pm

    Greinke seems like the only player that is worth trading anything for, both for this year and the future.

  220. Matt-LI July 30th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    He is not one of the worst CFs in baseball… He is one of the worst offensive CFs in baseball. Defensively, he helps this team a lot. Other then that, not sure what to tell ya. Maybe he should take some BP with Cano’s dad too.

  221. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    Melky’s not garbage, he’s just not an all-star. God forbid we have anyone, at any position, that isn’t headed to cooperstown…..

  222. don July 30th, 2008 at 12:13 pm

    get over it folks, why go for a fifth starter just go with the 4 we have and wait for cmw to come back, use posson and rasner as long relief, cashman brags about is farm hands so lets go the rest of the year and take our chances, We are not going to beat Boston or Rays and I am sure they both will make a trade soon to secure thier spot in the standings.

  223. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 12:14 pm

    What was Reggie doing with the River Dogs? Guy is everywhere. Nice retirement gig.

  224. rb15 July 30th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    ps ha trisha! Love it!

    Sorry for poor writing I am stIll getting used to my new phone.

  225. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 12:16 pm

    Melky’s hella better in CF than anyone else I remember. He’s not a good hitter, but to call him the worst CF in baseball is just flat out wrong.

  226. trisha - Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth! July 30th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    REPEAT! REPEAT!

    When I was reading the forum below this one and read all the consternation about the way people posts during games an idea came to me, but I didn’t get to post it until now. If Pete would try this with a game thread (I seriously doubt he would) it could potentially satisfy all parties and perhaps even get back some of the people who don’t want to post during games. He could have two separate game forums: One would be the “What he can’t throw a strike????/HERE WE GO AGAIN!/Yankees are a mediocre team/I can’t believe he swung at the first pitch!/You gotta be KIDDING me!/Could this offense stink anymore!/Trade Melky!/Trade Cano!/Trade Jeter!/Trade Arod!/DFA Ponson!/Abreu stinks, Abreu’s afraid of walls oh my God!/This team sucks!!!/I think I’m going to throw up in my mouth!/THIS TEAM HAS NO HEART!/Can we get rid of Giambi fast enough???/DFA Cashman!/DFA Girardi” thread, aka, CAN YOU BELIEVE IT????? Or if Pete wanted to make sure that people would go there in droves, he could name it the TRISHA IS AN IDIOT game thread.

    The other forum would be the “Uh oh, I hope this isn’t what I think it is/Damn I wish he wouldn’t swing at the first pitch/They still have a chance/I’m disappointed that we lost but tomorrow’s another day/I still have faith in this team/Hey it’s not all bad!/Look at the positive here/I still think this team is great/I still believe we’ll be there in October/I love this team!” game thread, aka GO YANKEES!!! This thread would be for people who sometimes voice disappointment but realize it is momentary and in the bigger picture there are lots of positives.

    The rules would be that nobody from the first thread could invade on the second thread, and vice versa. I guarantee you that you would have two “satisfied” groups of posters and it would probably eradicate the majority of the in-fighting that goes on during games!

    Pete, what do you think of trying it at least once? If someone from the dark side crossed over to the light side, or vice versa, that person would be so outnumbered that he or she wouldn’t care to stick around!

  227. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    Be quiet. Melky’s a good player.

    I REALLY hope you are being sarcastic.

    He’s garbage.

    __

    Your wrong. Go away, troll.

    OK then. Give me some stats to back up why you think he is so good. I’d love to see what you use to evaluate talnet.

    And don’t give me the defense nonsense. Saving a run or 2 a week does not even come close to making up for the fact he is all but an automatic out in the lineup

  228. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    “Melky being as good as Alex Rios next year is like the chances of the Knicks winning the NBA championship…..None, Zero, Yada”

    I’m not a Knicks fan, not really a basketball fan, but the Celtics went from worst to first, didn’t they? Nothing’s impossible. HIGHLY UNLIKELY, yes…

  229. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 12:17 pm

    “if I had to do it over, i accept the Twins offer: Wang/Kennedy/Melky for Santana.

    would I have done the trade in the off-season? Yes.”

    Sleep on this thought and try to come back tomorrow with a more sensible argument, okay?

    I won’t even debate how idiotic a trade it would have been had Cashman accepted that offer.

  230. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    BTW, i’m not saying I think Melky will be as good as Alex Rios…….

  231. trisha - Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth! July 30th, 2008 at 12:18 pm

    Wow rb15!!!! Congratulations and I hope you have a beautiful day. I dedicate Saturday’s game to you and your special day.

    :)

  232. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    “I’m so glad Melky’s out there again today. He’s just awesome!

    Melky Cabrera has gone 40 at-bats without an RBI and has four RBI in his past 35 games (132 at-bats).”

    You are a really DUMB poster. Instead of focusing on someone who’s #9 hitter focus on the multi millionaires who get paid to hit like superstars not doing their jobs.

  233. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    fred from jersey: actually, i’ve been for the ‘youth movement’. And the complete philosophical change/shift in the NYY organization. My view, has not changed.

    was very relieved, when hughes wasn’t traded (for santana). And i understand, why a trade wasn’t made, involving other players/prospects.

  234. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 12:19 pm

    Greinke for melky kennedy marquez, hell even horne. dejesus is a hoorrrrible CF. they need defense out there. melky is actually a good fit. then they can move their other OF to 1b and dejesus to LF. Greinke would be a very very smart acquisition for the yanks

  235. ITALIANO!!!!! July 30th, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    SI.com’s Jon Heyman says the Ms are asking for quite a bit for Washburn – two of one NL team’s top prospects, for example.

    Wow the M’s are really hopeing they could get something good here… I still think they will play this down to the last couple of hours and when they see no one will bite they will give Cash a call… Lets see if I’m right.

    It makes no sense for them to hold on to him unless they feel they will contend in 2009..

  236. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:22 pm

    Manny has signed papers to waive his NTC, it’s on Boston’s FO now

  237. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Let’s not talk about the off season and missed opportunities, our weakness right now!!!

    Torii-CF nope
    Santana- SP nope
    trade for TEX -nope

    Keep everyone in the farm system they are the next coming, of Joe D, Mickey, CY Young..

    Hey we didn’t trade in the off season probably not going to now, much less value on them than in the off season.

    So we have to live with it, and hope they produce..(Wang should not be traded at all)…

  238. Matt-LI July 30th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    Have a feeling that Nady is gonna have a good day

  239. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 12:23 pm

    so we are back to blaming Melky BTW he would have had a RBI the other day if Meacham was not a friggin moron(that is deserved)…

    again if you trade guys like gardner(24 and cheap) for rentals your minor league system becomes a wasteland like the MEts and other teams…

    Washbum should come as a salary dump but if they want a real 2nd tier prospect take Igawa back also..

  240. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    Wow!! We have a lot of hostility in here this morning. Folks we are on the same side. Chill out fellas.

    In regards to Melky. He has had a drop off on offense since he came in to the league. Melky is now no better than a defensive replacement. But as Stuart and others have said time and time again. We shouldnt be banging on our ninth hitter and the lowest paid. The ones to blame are the so called all-stars. They seem to go M.I.A. everytime someone reaches second base. Till we make a trade or Ajax is ready in two years. We need to lay off Melky. He is the only option we have right now.

  241. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    SI.com’s Jon Heyman says the Ms are asking for quite a bit for Washburn – two of one NL team’s top prospects, for example.

    lol. Intern GM. Trying to learn, on the job

  242. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:24 pm

    Have a feeling that Nady is gonna have a good day

    He better. (to think Tabata could still be in Trenton if we didn’t go after this guy)

  243. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    Manny doesn’t have an NTC, he’s just a 10 and 5 guy.

  244. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 12:25 pm

    The Yankees should trade Joba to the Mets for Santana. We need an ace.

  245. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:26 pm

    That was just reported on ESPN radio 1050 break.. He has signed waiver papers or something like that. I’ll try to find more info on this but it’s not a lie.

  246. trisha - Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth! July 30th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    Here’s the Manny deal.

    His puppeteer, Boras, is pulling all the strings. If Manny stays with the Sux and they exercise the option, Boras gets bupkis.

    Is there ANY question in your mind about why Manny signed his NTC?????

    If you don’t have enough background about Boras and need to know how much esteem the guy has gained for himself, check out this article!

    http://unsportsmanlikecomment......-vs-satan/

  247. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    I see someone is using my name, for the JOBA trade..I would never trade Joba..

  248. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 12:27 pm

    Speaking of basketball. The Rockets just traded for Artest. Are they now the team to beat? Im a Spurs fan and am very concerned about winning the division now.

  249. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 12:28 pm

    rb15, you couldn’t get married on an off-day? I hear Monday weddings are cheaper…

  250. Fire Girardi July 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Melky will hit a grand slam today.

  251. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Sos nope I still see New Orleans as the team to beat, CP3 is going to be a more ready next season and he’ll have USA tourney experience into the season.

  252. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 12:29 pm

    Manny has to sign papers 24 hours prior to a deal so that would mean that if hes gonna get traded its by 4:00 et. TODAY

  253. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 12:31 pm

    “It makes no sense for them to hold on to him unless they feel they will contend in 2009..”

    they have an interim gm.

    hes probably feeling that the other gm’s are taking advantage of his inexperience and a team that obviously wants to dump everyone and rebuild. hes selling way too high and will end up with no deals or friends after this deadline. hes not keeping that job.

  254. William Buckner July 30th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    I’ll give some stats to show Melky may yet be a good player.
    Age 22 5 hr 280 ba; 23 12 hr 268 avg; 24 12 hr 289 avg

    Age 22 7 hr 280 ba; 23 8 hr 273 ba; 24 (on 8/11) 8 hr 250.

    Top line is Bernie Williams, bottom is Melky. You dont give up that quickly on young players who have shown ability to perform.

    BTW, Jacoby Ellsbury is a year older, hitting 260 w/ 5 hr. Sox aren’t looking to dump him either.

  255. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:32 pm

    Phil this one is for you

    The deadline to trade Manny Ramirez is essentially 4 p.m. ET Wednesday. As a 10-5 guy (10 years in the majors, five years with the same team), Ramirez has the right to veto any deal. If he waives a trade to a team, he must sign the paperwork 24 hours prior to the deal. So at the least, Ramirez will have to officially waive his no-trade rights to teams he would be willing to go to by 4 p.m. ET today.

    ESPN’s break just reported he signed the paperwork a few minutes ago.

  256. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 12:33 pm

    The manny watch continues…

    This could get real ugly real fast up in Boston

  257. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    If he signed papers that means hes been traded which hasnt happen, so he hasnt signed anything yet, he cant sign papers because he hasnt been traded the papers would be that he waives his clause to go to team X he cant sign if there isnt a team

  258. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 12:34 pm

    Brandon,
    I agree on N.O. being a scary team as well. I just think that ming and artest makes their defense stiffling. Didnt N.O. pick up a great bench guy recently?

  259. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Rebecca I told you guys he’s not happy, he’s been wanting out, has he turned into a baby yeh but it’s because Boston didn’t commit to him early this season while they shelled out the bucks for Drew and Papi. I wouldn’t be surprised if today or tomorrow he is packing his bags to go to Philly.

  260. Nick in SF but now in Ocean City, MD July 30th, 2008 at 12:35 pm

    Folks, I’m in the state of Maryland, I see good things coming out of today’s game. O’s fans are feeling extra cocky right now, I think they’re riding for a fall.

  261. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    “Top line is Bernie Williams, bottom is Melky. You dont give up that quickly on young players who have shown ability to perform.”

    exactly.

  262. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 12:36 pm

    Brandon. Cool, let’s hope he’s done something so awful since last night’s game that he gets traded for crap.

  263. Matt-LI July 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    Don’t worry, Brandon. Nady will come through, just need some time for adjustment.

    And for those putting any blame on him last night, don’t. Coming off the bench in a tight situation, facing a guy throwing 93-95 with sink, 3-2 count and drops a hook on the outside corner. Not a thing he could do about it.

  264. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    If i were the red sox i would send him to Seattle. Perfect fit. Nothing to play for and no one cares.

  265. geez July 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    “Save situations: 26 games, 27.1 innings, 12 hits, 1 run, 2 walks, 33 strikeouts, 0 HR, 0.33 ERA

    Non-save situations: 15 games, 20 innings, 16 hits, 6 runs, 2 walks, 24 strikeouts, 3 HR, 2.70 ERA.”

    Mariano’s career ERA is 2.30. So his performance in non-saves situations is pretty close to that. It’s really his performance in the save situations that should be focused on since it is so darn impressive.

    Also, please don’t make broad generalizations about 20 innings of data Pete. In 2003 Mo had a 1.31 ERA in 20 innings of non-save situations, and a 1.80 ERA in save situations. Does this mean he was extra focused during the non-save situations that year? Of course not.

    Sure, most of the times he’s given up runs this year ahs been during non-save situations. But this doesn’t mean he was being oddly affected by the situation as you claimed yesterday. These are just the sorts of things that happen with a small number of innings of data. I mean come on, don’t you hang out with the Baseball Prospectus guys? Shouldn’t you know this? His 0.33 ERA in save situations is probably unsustainable. Expect that to rise a bit.

    “Why that is so complicated, I have no idea. Or you can keep Jarrod Washburn and still finish in last place and pay him. It’s not about the Yankees or the New York media. It’s about being smart.”

    You don’t get it. Seriously, what benefit is there for Seattle to do this trade right now? This sort of transaction is perfect for the waiver deadline by the end of August. There’s not much point for Seattle to give Washbrun away to the Yankees for free right now when they still have a shot of getting something for him. If the Yankees don’t budge by Thursday, then Seattle could just work something out with them next month involving waivers. It’s pretty simple. There’s no immediate rush for Seattle to do anything with Washburn by Thursday. So they are being smart.

  266. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    If Manny is in the line-uo 2nite hes staying.

  267. Nick in SF but now in Ocean City, MD July 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    And I can report that the rumor that Manny has been traded to the Delmarva Shorebirds is false.

  268. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    The Red Sox aren’t dumb (well, they’re front office isn’t). If they can get equal value for Manny, they’ll trade him if they think it improves their club. If not, they’ll either keep him (still believing his production is worth the headaches), or they’ll decide they’re done with his antics and do what we did with Sheffield, pick up his option, then trade him to dictate where he goes and to get something in return. Not sure if the latter can be done, depends on how much his option is ($20M i think), and if he is worth as much or more than that option.

    Remember, the reason we did that with Sheffield was because his value was as high or higher than his option (the market had just gone up with other signings if I remember correctly).

  269. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    ESPN also says it looks like Jason Bay might go to Tampa and Maddux to the Dodgers

  270. rb15 July 30th, 2008 at 12:37 pm

    thanks trisha!

    Chris РI leave off day marriages to ipk. Plus , fianc̩ is a mets fan. Not a sympathetic ear there.

    (have to get back to work. But yes, mets fan. Sigh. I guess we will see if true love really conquers all…)

  271. Matt-LI July 30th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    N.O. picked up Posey… Fantastic bench guy.

  272. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    I don’t think Manny is going to get traded although I hope they do trade him. Despite Manny having a so called “down year” he’s still second on the team in OPS. He still have an OPS+ of above 140. He still has an OBP of .399. He still absolutely DESTROYS Yankee pitching in his sleep.

    Who are they going to get that’s as good as Manny Ramirez? I’d love for them to make the colossal mistake of trading him for Pat Burrell.

    Please Red Sox, make my day.

  273. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 12:38 pm

    Brandon: Signing the papers does seem to indicate he has been traded…and we just haven’t heard.

    Am really interested to see how this plays out.

  274. yankee21 July 30th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    Manny may have waived his NTC, but I would be shocked if BOS could trade him and if BOS would trade him.

    Complex contract, complex player, high salary, a lot of baggage, high-value. Not exactly a drop in, swap-type deal.
    What team wants to take Manny on, quick name it(them)? Now, what team can take Manny on, quick name it?

    BOS has a solid rotation, and a good defense but aside from Papelbom, garbage relief. They need some offense and they need Ramirez to have any hope for another title.

  275. ray (sox fan) July 30th, 2008 at 12:39 pm

    I was at the game at Fenway last night, and was there early enough to watch batting practice and the interaction among the players.

    I was surprised at how relaxed Manny appeared before the game. Talking and joking with both Sox players and Angel players.

    However, in the game one time Manny hit the ball to third base and barely ran to first. The boo birds let me have it and when he came back to the dug out just threw his helmet on the field in front of the dug out.

    I don’t know if something will be worked out today or tomorrow, but my sense is that the average Sox fan is more than ready to say good bye to Mr. Ramirez.

  276. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    If he signed papers that means hes been traded which hasnt happen

    No this is done prior to having a prosposed deal in place. Meaning before Manny goes to Philly or a team of his choosing he has to waive his NTC so he can’t veto the deal.

  277. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    Who the heck is Scott Richmond and why is he pitching for Toronto v. Tampa Bay??/

  278. little betty sue July 30th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    here we go. the perfect trade. no money involved. send an email to OAKLAND:

    for justin duchscherer:

    we will give you 20 GCL yankees, kei igawa, carl pavano, and 1 free semester for every team member in the Ian Kennedy Delusional Ego Institute for Pitchers.

    act NOW and we will throw in a bonus offer: JASON GIAMBI’S GOLD THONG. (washed!)

  279. Jorge Tabata July 30th, 2008 at 12:40 pm

    From Olney’s blog:

    sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?name=mlb_trade_deadline

    The Mariners had indicated to the Yankees, in those corroded talks between the teams, that they were willing to eat a lot of Washburn’s 2008 salary but that the Yankees would have to pay the lefty’s 2009 salary. If the Mariners made a similar arrangement with the Mets and got a prospect in return, there could be a fit. And, as the executive noted, dealing Washburn to the Mets instead of the crosstown Yankees might be viewed as a victory of some sort in the Seattle front office and would allow Mets general manager Omar Minaya to let his fan base know: We got this guy the Yankees wanted.

    “It’s a natural fit for those two teams,” the executive mused.

  280. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    Rishi: Probably starting in place of the injured McGowan.

  281. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    I am being very negative today as last nights game left a real bad taste in my mouth. Real bad.

    So without further ado.

    Um.. Melky is not that good in CF. Yes he has a very strong arm and can sometimes be deadly accurate but…
    He often gets bad reads off the bat and is forced to play catch up on well hit balls. As a result he seldom makes the big catch. He is pretty far from graceful or Gold Glove caliber. He is the best outfielder on the Yanks but that isn’t saying much at all.

  282. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:42 pm

    BTW the Marlins have emerged as a player in the Manny Ramirez sweepstakes.

  283. Loren July 30th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    Off topic….in case anyone’s interested: Yanks recent draft signee- Kyle Higashioka (C) made his pro debut yesterday for the GCL Yanks and went 1 for 2. Has some talent, and was a good sign for the Yanks.

  284. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    “Sure, most of the times he’s given up runs this year ahs been during non-save situations.”

    Another point about that, this used to be described as “during tie games.” Now it’s generalized as all non-save situations. A few weeks ago when Pete first pointed this out, the argument was that he was good in losing situations too, which we were in last night.

    The whole conversation is silly.

  285. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    ” but it’s because Boston didn’t commit to him early this season while they shelled out the bucks for Drew and Papi.”

    Big bucks to Papi? Papi is making 13mil. Big Papi has one of the friendliest contracts in the league. There’s no way Manny can be upset about Papi’s contract.

  286. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 12:43 pm

    John Henry’s old team?

  287. Y's Guy July 30th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    so before i found this blog last fall, i used to turn on the game, press pause on the tivo and wait about an hour, then watch the game and skip the commercials and speed up through some boring innings and catch up to live just before the end of the game.

    then i started coming on here and reading and posting while watching the game, since i like alot of the posters on here as well as pete’s take on things.

    but i too have stopped reading and posting during the games now because of the negativity. i’ll be watching the whole game and rooting for them all all the way, but i wont be able to read the posts because i’ll be watching it on delay.

    enjoy the game!

    Let’s Go Yankees

  288. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    if Omar hands over prospects and eats the deal it just gives the owners more reason to fire him.

  289. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    And Rios appears to be having a tough time out there today

  290. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:44 pm

    Thanks Loren I didn’t check the GCL scoreboard ..good to see Kyle begin his pro ball career.

  291. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Thanks, Rebecca — that sucks…

  292. Andrew July 30th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    The Rays getting Bay would be a great opportunity to start the official slurp-machine up again. I really miss that Rays slurp machine, it’s gotten kind of dusty since they lost 2 in the Bronx and then went on that losing streak. I really need to hear about how this team came from nowhere and how amazing it is that they’re still around and making big deadline moves, how the AL East’s balance of power has shifted, I really want to be inundated with stories and TV segments of that again.

  293. Peter Abraham July 30th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Geez:

    I simply presented Mo’s stats because the splits are so different. I didn’t offer any analysis of it. Just some stats. Calm down.

    As for Seattle, every day that goes by is more salary they’re paying for no reason. If you’re going to rebuild, which they clearly need to do, why wait? Get rid of Washburn and Ibanez (and Beltre for that matter) and invest in player development. That’s the only way they can compete with the Angels.

  294. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 12:45 pm

    Brandon: Marlins would be real interesting. Can’t see them signing Manny, ever. I mean, dude, Loria.

  295. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    “Um.. Melky is not that good in CF. Yes he has a very strong arm and can sometimes be deadly accurate but…
    He often gets bad reads off the bat and is forced to play catch up on well hit balls. As a result he seldom makes the big catch. He is pretty far from graceful or Gold Glove caliber. He is the best outfielder on the Yanks but that isn’t saying much at all.”

    The defensive metrics that are out tend to disagree with your eagle eyes. But if you said it then I guess it’s the truth.

  296. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:46 pm

    raymagnetic it’s not the big bucks it’s the commitment they gave Papi a longterm deal, and Drew has a longterm deal, he just didn’t take it well.

  297. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 12:48 pm

    This Manny thing is beyond ridiculous and we are complete idiots to pay any attention to it. No way BOS trades Manny. Has anyone looked at the bottom of their batting order? If they don’t have Manny, they are done!

  298. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    I seriously hope Manny goes to the NL.

  299. dont retire 21 July 30th, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    1050 espn radio just said jason bay to tampa bay… did anyone hear this?

  300. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 12:49 pm

    What kind of newspaper leaves phone number for their writer?
    HEre is the guy who blames the Yankees:253-597-8742; ext. 6154

  301. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 12:50 pm

    Brandon i am not WRONG i know what i am talking bout, Manny may have signed off on some teams he will be willing to go to, But for him to be traded HE HAS TO SIGN papers so if he SIGNED THE PAPERS he would be traded thank you and have a nice day watching JOBA throw a gem.

  302. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    don’t retire 21 – it’s been on the ESPN News crawl, too- but just reported, not confirmed

  303. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    1050 espn radio just said jason bay to tampa bay… did anyone hear this?

    Not Yet.

  304. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    ESPN’s Andrew Marchand says the deadline for a Manny trade might be 3pm CST today, as he has to sign paperwork 24 hours prior to a deal to waive his no-trade rights.

  305. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    The deadline to trade Manny Ramirez is essentially 4 p.m. ET Wednesday. As a 10-5 guy (10 years in the majors, five years with the same team), Ramirez has the right to veto any deal. If he waives a trade to a team, he must sign the paperwork 24 hours prior to the deal. So at the least, Ramirez will have to officially waive his no-trade rights to teams he would be willing to go to by 4 p.m. ET today.

    It is possible Ramirez already has signed away his no-trade rights to certain teams, but it is unknown whether he has done so.

    please go away, Manny…

  306. Andrea July 30th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    If I see Wilson Betemit up in the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs ever again, I’m going to flip out. For real.

  307. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 12:51 pm

    “As a result he seldom makes the big catch.”

    I’ve seen Melky make plenty of “big catches” and I’m sure one of the stat-heads on here can give you stats telling you how many balls Melky gets to, among the top 5 in the game. I know CB at one point had some stats about this.

    I don’t disagree he sometimes takes bad routes, but a lot of the time he makes up for it and gets to the ball anyway.

  308. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    “raymagnetic it’s not the big bucks it’s the commitment they gave Papi a longterm deal, and Drew has a longterm deal, he just didn’t take it well.”

    The 4 year committment they gave him in ’06? Well that’s just silly, no? If my calculations are correct Ortiz’ current contract would run out at the end of 2010. Coincidentally if the Red Sox picked up Manny’s 2 options he would be free after 2010 as well.

    Therefore, doesn’t that mean the Red Sox have the same committment to Ortiz that they do with Manny?

    Secondly, Manny would be making 7mil a more a year than Ortiz if the Red Sox picked up his options?

  309. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 12:52 pm

    i’m more concerned with who they get for Manny – at least when Manny stops caring, it’s easier to beat the RS

  310. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    I think Brandon knows more about the Manny situation than anyone else here.

    CoachJay: 3 pm CST = 4 PM New York time.

  311. dont retire 21 July 30th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    andrea,

    i believe betemit came up with a game tying hit in the bottom of the 9th with 2 outs just a few weeks ago.

  312. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 12:53 pm

    I just realized that the Rays are becoming like the Angels, no limit on having too much OFers.

  313. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Reds have no desire to trade Bronson Arroyo.

    Tampa front office split on giving up prospects to get Bay.

  314. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    If the Mariners made a similar arrangement with the Mets and got a prospect in return, there could be a fit. And, as the executive noted, dealing Washburn to the Mets instead of the crosstown Yankees might be viewed as a victory of some sort in the Seattle front office and would allow Mets general manager Omar Minaya to let his fan base know: We got this guy the Yankees wanted.

    Yes Olney, I’m sure the Mets and their fans will be thrilled their team got someone the Yankees so..um..desperately wanted.. :roll:

  315. AlbanyYankee July 30th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    Wasn’t Phil Hughes supposed to be wearing glasses or goggles during his comeback?

  316. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 12:54 pm

    I dont think Washburn makes the Yanks a WS contender so why use that $$$$ I know we have all the money however, the Yanks will get Pavano, Giambi, Abreu off the books. Yanks can sign TEX and CC or Ben Sheets, and go with Damon,Melky,Nady in the OF, Arod,Jeter,Cano,TEX and

  317. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    “So at the least, Ramirez will have to officially waive his no-trade rights to teams he would be willing to go to by 4 p.m. ET today.”

    So, if he has in fact signed anything, it could just be him signing away those rights in case a deal gets done. Doesn’t mean anything is in the works or almost done.

  318. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 12:55 pm

    I hate day games on weekdays.

  319. William Buckner July 30th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    I think a better point about Washburn is this. If the M’s are a business and they have a $10million asset bringing no return, why continue to keep him? And with that kind of $ at play, if someone is upset over media reports, and not more concerned about a way to improve their business they deserve a pink slip.

  320. MikeEff July 30th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    “I think Brandon knows more about the Manny situation than anyone else here.”

    WHY?

  321. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    Rebecca no CRAP i know that i never said anything bout the TIME.. where did u get that?????????? Brandon doesnt know more bout Manny. SOME1 has a crush.. I listen to ESPN and sure the NET.. So good try

  322. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:56 pm

    ray again it’s har to understand, his old agent gave him a deal in which the team had the options to keep him and pay him or release him, he doesn’t like it, and he doesn’t like Boston not giving him a longterm deal, he believes he was atleast owed that. Right now it’s not pretty but dammit I cleared every single one of my cell phone text messages because I’m waiting for some news if it’s official oh you best bet I’m posting. :D

  323. yankees35421 July 30th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    The Yankees messed with a good thing. They were playing like the best team in baseball, but then they started all this trade stuff, saying they needed a bat…why? they were scoring 7, 8 runs every game.

  324. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    At least we won’t have to wait till tomorrow to find out what’s going on with Manny.

    I imagine he’ll get soundly booed tonight.

  325. JACK July 30th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    JOBA TIME

  326. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 12:57 pm

    I think we can all agree Betemit at least needs to stop being a switch hitter. He can’t hit righty. He has a career .230 AVG and .276 OBP from that side (.634 OPS). He’s not terrific lefty either, but at least hitting from just that side would take away the dangerous illusion that he can be a righty of the bench or at 1b.

  327. geez July 30th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    Thanks for the response Pete. Sorry for getting all angry.

    I know you just presented stats without any analysis. I was referring to what you said yesterday:

    “It sure is weird how Mo pitches differently when it’s not a save situation. It’s to the point where it’s not a quirk.”

    And you have said something along these lines a few times this season. So I disagree with the notion that Mariano’s performance in non-save situations is not a quirk. I believe the quirk has been the insanely awesome 0.33 ERA in save situations. If he was putting something like a 1.80 era in save situations, like we might expect out of him, would anybody even have noticed this split? I see the 0.33 ERA as the highly unexpected outcome, not the 2.70 era.

    I agree Seattle needs to get rid of several of those players. Beltre and Ibanez should be the main focus by Thursday since they can clearly get a decent return of minor leaguers for them. But if nobody wants to give up players for Washburn, I don’t think paying him for maybe one more month is that big of a deal for Seattle. I think they just don’t want to have to pay for another entire year of his salary. So I still don’t think there is as big a need to deal him right now as the other guys when they could just deal with him a month from now. I think they are smart to hold out and try to get a player from the Yankees, even if it looks like that won’t happen.

  328. Joba July 30th, 2008 at 12:58 pm

    For those who talk of Melky’s arm, how about his throw last night? It was God awful.

  329. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    MikeEff no reason what so ever

  330. John H. July 30th, 2008 at 12:59 pm

    Something big (a trade) will happen during the game. Remember, you heard it here first.

  331. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    “The 4 year committment they gave him in ‘06? Well that’s just silly, no? If my calculations are correct Ortiz’ current contract would run out at the end of 2010.”

    Boston has an option to keep Ortiz for 2011 for $12.5M. Lot can happen (injuries and such), but I’d assume that gets picked up.

  332. From LAX (yanks fan) July 30th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    Come on let’s go Orioles. I want my 100 bucks!

  333. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:00 pm

    With regards to Seattle’s press and their beloved Mariners, I think Peter hit the nail right on the head. Amen.

  334. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    John: You know for sure or just guessingn?

  335. Old School Bronx Proud Italian American July 30th, 2008 at 1:01 pm

    Bear with me on this….Can you explain why this is NOT the stupidest thing you have ever heard ? : Girardi says that IF the Yankees had tied the game up in the 9th inning and not won it, then he would have a challenge on his hands with the DH and players possibly playing out of position.
    .
    DID I READ THAT RIGHT ?
    .
    HELLO…IDIOT….IF YOU LOSE THE GAME,,,,that is BAD…that is WORSE than having a problem with having a CHANCE to win the game in extra innings.
    .
    I swear, that just floored me. How about this ?…you try to win the game FIRST, then deal with the issue of tying the game NEXT….because if you LOSE the game, that is WORSE than being “challenged” to compete in extra innings.
    .
    Girardi is just not a smart man if he thinks like this, and I am ready for a change…..like, NOW ! ( of course, I know there is ZERO chance that will happen )
    .
    :-(

  336. yankees35421 July 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    It ends right here! but the next time i see Betemit in a game I’m gonna scream!!!

    Girardi has some kind of obsession with him. did someone tell girardi that Betemit is a backup?

  337. pete needs a shot of optimism! July 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    yeah they sure messed with a good thing yankees35421, tradings guys we weren’t using for a right handed bet and a LHP everyone in the league wanted. stupid.

  338. doslobo38 July 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    How do you not list Abreu as being hot the guy is hitting .365 with a .470 OBP since the all-star break!

  339. John H. July 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    lol Rebecca, I’m just guessing.

  340. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Something big (a trade) will happen during the game. Remember, you heard it here first.

    You pulling our strings or are you legit :?

  341. Andrea July 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    don’t retire 21: and how shocked was everyone when that happened? He’s not a consistent hitter. He consistently strikes out.

    I just plain don’t care for Betemit.

  342. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:02 pm

    Let’s go Yanks!

  343. Guiseppe Franco July 30th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    I’d be downright shocked if Manny is traded in the middle of a pennant race because they will not be getting anything close to equal value for him.

    Something will happen in the offseason but not now.

    That team could miss the postseason altogether without Manny in the lineup for the last 50+ games and I don’t see it happening.

  344. Matt-LI July 30th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    Joba-

    More often than not, his throws are on line and on the money. I think he is allowed to be off line once in a while.

    Lets stop trying to find every negative aspect about every single one of our players.

  345. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    “ray again it’s har to understand, his old agent gave him a deal in which the team had the options to keep him and pay him or release him, he doesn’t like it, and he doesn’t like Boston not giving him a longterm deal, he believes he was atleast owed that”

    He believes he’s owed a long term deal??? Is he really that stupid??? He’s in the 8th year of an long term contract. He held up his end, Boston held up their’s. Why would he feel he’s owed anything?

  346. yankees35421 July 30th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    I”m just saying…we were playing fine without those guys

  347. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:03 pm

    John: haha okay, just making sure :)

  348. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 1:04 pm

    Joba needs to knock Millar and/or Huff off the plate

  349. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 1:05 pm

    I hope Manny does get traded that will automatically upgrade our pitch staff against the Sox.

    And we didn’t even make a move. :)

  350. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    “And, as the executive noted, dealing Washburn to the Mets instead of the crosstown Yankees might be viewed as a victory of some sort in the Seattle front office and would allow Mets general manager Omar Minaya to let his fan base know: We got this guy the Yankees wanted.”

    “AS THE EXECUTIVE NOTED???” This high school nonsense is how executives of Major League Baseball teams think? Sad. And pathetic that they would take “victory” in sending a washed up, overpaid pitcher to the Mets instead of the Yankees….

  351. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    The Yankees better stand there and take pitches today. This guy has never thrown more than 3.1 innings all season, his pitch count can’t be much more than 80-85. If this guy is allowed to throw more than 4 innings, they should be embarrassed.

  352. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    The Yankees and Marlins are among the teams that have called on Laird. The Red Sox, who are looking for catching for this year and beyond, like Teagarden. Lots of teams like Saltalamacchia, who came over in the Mark Teixeira trade a year ago, but he might be the costliest of the bunch. Texas obviously won’t deal all of these guys, but having them all puts the Rangers in a position of strength.

  353. CB July 30th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    Sarfate has electric stuff, especially his fastball. He’s been very good for the O’s this year out of the pen. Only 35 hits allowed in 50 innings.

    His achilles heel has always been control. He’s walked 39 in 50 innings.

    They need to be patient with him and get him out of the game.

    This is his first start of the season but he was a starter in the minors. They need to get him out of the game as soon as possible.

  354. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 1:07 pm

    who thinks Millar is getting plunked today?

  355. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    steve phillips said, he doesn’t believe Manny will be traded.

    done. Manny will be traded

  356. Whiff (Cano's bat) July 30th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    Would you trade Hughes, Jackson, Cano for Roy Halladay?

    If not that combination, Hughes, Cabrera, and a 3rd for Halladay?

  357. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:08 pm

    My F’n god Laird is not better than Salty what the hell are we wasting our time w/ him ! :x

  358. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    It kind of bothers me to see empty seats in the Stadium behind home plate.

    joba, man, strikes, please?

  359. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    “Would you trade Hughes, Jackson, Cano for Roy Halladay?”

    never

    “If not that combination, Hughes, Cabrera, and a 3rd for Halladay?”

    still awful

  360. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 1:09 pm

    is the jason bay rumore true or not? or is it very close, is it total bs. it is kind of important..

  361. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Of course he deserves an error. Maybe if this was little league he wouldn’t be expected to make that play.

  362. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Joba needs to throw his Youk pitch at Millar.

  363. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Would you trade Hughes, Jackson, Cano for Roy Halladay?

    If not that combination, Hughes, Cabrera, and a 3rd for Halladay?

    Nope.

  364. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Oy Robbie

  365. CaptainsCorner July 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Cano makes me sick..Mr. Lazy field the ball!!!

  366. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Whiff: Hughes, Cabrera and x for Halladay could very well be a steal.

    That said, it won’t get done.

  367. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter July 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    great way to start this game off

  368. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:10 pm

    Brandon, take a deeeeep breathe. lol.

  369. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:11 pm

    Bay to Tampa is true but nothing is official yet.

  370. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Steve Phillips said Manny won’t be traded?
    Well that seals it. A deal will be made and he will be out of Boston.

  371. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:12 pm

    Tampa has a lot of outfielders, don’t they?

  372. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:13 pm

    Bay to Tampa is true but nothing is official yet.

    like i said, the Rays are becoming like the Angels, there’s never too much OFers.

  373. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    “Boston has an option to keep Ortiz for 2011 for $12.5M. Lot can happen (injuries and such), but I’d assume that gets picked up.”

    Didn’t realize they had an option. But it’s still not that long of a committment to Ortiz to have Manny feel some sort of way about it.

  374. CaptainsCorner July 30th, 2008 at 1:14 pm

    I am tired of this Millar BS. Throw the pitches in the right location and not right down the middle thigh high and he wont hit and look like Babe Ruth. He is lucky that he is a major leaguer against everyone else. He NEVER hits against Boston!!!!

  375. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    This is unreal.

  376. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    This Huff is one lucky SOB

  377. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Lousy pitch, Joba.

  378. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:15 pm

    Dang it

  379. CaptainsCorner July 30th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Thanks Cano your laziness cost them a run.

  380. blackdragon905 July 30th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    orioles are just a really pesky team

  381. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Shocker, the error comes around to score. This team cannot pitch around errors this year, it’s unbelievable.

  382. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Nice throw! I hope Jason’s hand is okay.

  383. Del The Funkee Homosapien July 30th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    is joba getting lit up or something? whats the score?

  384. Bob July 30th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    Pete -

    Clearly, you are confused and are trying to apply reason and logic when the Seattle folks prefer emotion.

    You have become far too grown up for today’s world.

    Grow down!

    Bob

  385. JT July 30th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    GIAMBI HAS TO GET ROBERTS AT 2ND ON THAT BALL

  386. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 1:16 pm

    “Lousy pitch, Joba.”

    You’re kidding, right?

  387. Old School Bronx Proud Italian American July 30th, 2008 at 1:17 pm

    That run means nothing. Yankees are putting up a double digit today…..bet on it !

  388. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    It’s going to be on the offense yet again today to get out there and score some runs. The Orioles pitching is not lights out. The last few nights they scored first, but we didn’t score ANYTHING and let them tack on the put away runs. We have to score runs off the guy who’s probably nervous in his first major league start.

    You don’t score, you don’t win. Simple as that.

  389. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    I’m seriously hoping some of the people posting here aren’t actually watching the game. Did you see what happened? Joba popped him up. It was too good of a pitch, it found grass. If you actually watched the inning, Joba looked superb. He did nothing wrong except throw too good of a pitch to Huff.

  390. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter July 30th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    i would think that they could come back from this

    but they don’t play well when they have to come from behind

  391. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:18 pm

    Dennis Sarfate = CY Young

  392. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    For the love of saviours in handbaskets, please work the count Yankees!

  393. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Rays:
    Upton, Gomes, Hinske, Gross, Crawford, Ruggiano, Floyd

    =7 OFers

    Angels:
    Matthews, Willits, Hunter, Quinlan, Anderson, Guerrero, Rivera

    =7 OFers, if you wanna get techinal, include Figgins then there would be 8 OFers.

  394. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    Nice strike by Joba. Jason can handle the heat. 3rd catcher?

    Let’s go Yankees. Tired of this crap baseball. :)

  395. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 1:19 pm

    are you kidding.

    i would do Hughes, Cabrera and a minor leaguer for Halladay in a second as long as doc is not a FA after this year. (i probably wouldnt do it with cano in there)

  396. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    Damon K’s instead of walking.

  397. Bayron July 30th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    Giambi’s fault! He had time to get the runner at second so his diving stop and play wasn’t so good!

  398. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    BlackDragon….the Orioles are only pesky against the Yankees. In fact, not even pesky…world beaters. The Yanks don’t do well against pitchers they’ve never seen, even if it was my grandmother, who is dead.

  399. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    From Pete’s link above where a Seattle “writer” blames the Yankees for a deal not being done for Washburn:

    “They approached him with the “generous” offer of acquiring Jarrod Washburn for nothing but the contract, and he replied with three words native New Yorkers recognize as one.

    Fuhgetaboutit.”

    apparently this jackass watches too many Sopranos episodes and cheesy TV commercials. And, oh yeah, he doesn’t understand simple economics….

  400. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:20 pm

    This game is all about seeing pitches. We get this reliever out of the game in a few innings and we face a pretty terrible set of pitchers known as the orioles bullpen.

  401. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Is it just me, or can this team not hit a good fastball? How many pitchers this year have dominated our lineup on 90% fastballs? I remember a few of them- Garza, Thompson…

  402. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    damon down on strikes..

    arrggggg here we go again, you can just sense the doom

    sorry to get down after one batter, but that is what this team has forced me to become… so disenchanted and frustrated.

  403. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Thank you, Jeter!

  404. joe July 30th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    swipe a bag jete!

  405. CaptainsCorner July 30th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    Jeter actually looks at pitches!!! Amazing….

  406. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:22 pm

    you know I never understood why pitchers throw outside to Jetes, that would be me I’d bust him in the hands all day.

  407. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    Wow Jeter, why are you on the verge of getting picked off with 3 and 4 coming up after a gift 4 pitch walk with a guy who can’t throw strikes to the next guy either?

  408. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    I hate it when people who are not from New York try to act as though they’re from New York.

    I hate it even more when people not from New Jersey think they know Jersey–they think Seaside Heights is a luxury beach weekend, diners serve only breakfast and that everyone’s got an Italian relative in the mob.

  409. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Are the Yanks asleep again? How does Jeter almost get picked off there? I think this guy has a pitch count…we should do the same thing the Jays did to Joba when he had a low-pitch count in his first start.

  410. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    Thank you, Bobpy.

  411. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    THANK YOU BOBBY!!!

    C’mon ARod….

  412. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    dammit ..Alex’s kryptonite RISP :(

  413. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter July 30th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    brandon, jeter’d shoot that ball to right field everytime

  414. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:24 pm

    What does ARod do here?

  415. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    No need to attempt stolen bases. Make him earn his outs with lots of pitches.

  416. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    Just throw a fastball up in the zone. Jeter always chases it and I rarely see him catch up.

  417. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    Comon Alex, don’t hack at that FB inside, he can’t throw it for strikes.

  418. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    Well, it didn’t take long before the trolling slugs to ooze out from under the rocks. Christ, go out and mow your mommy and daddy’s lawn…take out the trash…feed the dog…go pick a fight with your baby sister, just be careful that she doesn’t hurt you.

  419. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    Rays-Pirates Bay talk 50-50.

  420. Old School Bronx Proud Italian American July 30th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    I swear, if Girardi give A-Rod the green light on the 1st pitch, I am gonna spit !

  421. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    Please please please no double plays.
    Croses fingers, eyes, toes and legs.

  422. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    keep on walking people

  423. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    THANK YOU AROD!!!!!!!!

  424. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Nice!

  425. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Great slide by Abreu….

  426. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    RISP

  427. CaptainsCorner July 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Abreu was safe by a hair…..

  428. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Uh, Bobby?

    You were safe ;)

  429. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    Yay.

  430. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:26 pm

    I really like that Abreu slide.

  431. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    c’mon Giambi…

  432. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Great baserunning.

  433. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    can we call that semi-clutch?

  434. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    wow.. hahah

    there has to be something wrong with Jeter.. he looks so slow running the bases. if that was a good throw, that would have been a close play at home. Jeter shouldnt have had to slide… i think his quad is still bothering him.

  435. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Nice!

  436. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter July 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Hey! he got himself a hit with men on base!

    nice slide bobby

  437. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Just asking…but what constitutes out of the baseline on a slide at home?

  438. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    Bobby must have been looking for a fight

  439. blackdragon905 July 30th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    bobby arguing lol

  440. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Jeter doing a nice job coaching Abreu there!

  441. Old School Bronx Proud Italian American July 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Let’s get his pitch count to 25-30 after one inning….GO YANKEES !

  442. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Nice hit, really nice slide, and nice 3B coaching by DJ who looks gassed!

  443. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    i hate you Giambi….

  444. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Melky will hit a grand slam today .

  445. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:28 pm

    Damon and Giambi with really horrible ab’s this inning.

  446. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    cant believe Giambi swung at a ball.

  447. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    I think Cano needs to make up for that error….

  448. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Nice job Giambi. The guy cant throw strikes and you bail him out. Shave your ‘stache.

  449. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    WHY IS GIAMBI STILL HITTING 5th? He’s hitting .180 this month and had a runner at 3rd less than 2 outs, and all he does is go up there hacking at high fastballs nowhere close. He is horrible right now, and our hottest hitter who could drive in runs is hitting BEHIND HIM?

  450. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter July 30th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    The stache has to go now.

  451. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    I’m pretty sure you go as far as you want out but the catcher can just stand on the base. There have been plays where they completely miss and then they have to come back.

  452. CaptainsCorner July 30th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Giambi being Giambi…No homerun and an automatic out. I cant wait until he is gone after this year. He rarely hits recently..Cant catch up to a fastball and his zero defense at 1st cost them a run…

  453. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    Man. I think it’s time for the ‘stache to go…

  454. JT July 30th, 2008 at 1:29 pm

    JETER SAID TO ABREU “I THOUGHT HE CALLED YOU OUT”

  455. RayBlay July 30th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    runner on third less than 2 outs and can’t make contact
    gotta get rid of the stache

  456. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    “Damon and Giambi with really horrible ab’s this inning.”

    scouting report and kevin long

  457. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    Oh Giambi, why do you suck so bad with RISP?

  458. Andrea July 30th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    But Rebecca, the best part of a diner is breakfast!

  459. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:30 pm

    I wish Melky were batting. He’s clutch.

  460. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    CUY—Thats the only thing I’ve seen, where players miss, and have to come back. Wow…pitcher saves Giambi’s arse there.

  461. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    More good baserunning!

  462. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    The Orioles have decided that 2 was enough.

  463. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    thank you for that wild pitch…

  464. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    Giambi got lucky and got bailed out by the wild pitch, but what a horrible at bat in the 5 spot in the lineup.

  465. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    Nice.

  466. Paddy R July 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    um pete, you are right on. stache needs to go until we are batting over .200 in a month and getting runners in from third with less than 2 outs.

  467. CaptainsCorner July 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    Thank you for the wild pitch..Since Giambi cant catch up to a fastball..

  468. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    NongEyeJon IMposter….you must know my disdain for Melky.

  469. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter July 30th, 2008 at 1:31 pm

    Hey, i got news

    THE YANKEES ARE BACK

  470. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Andrea: I agree, but the point is that diners don’t *just* serve breakfast.

  471. RayBlay July 30th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    he only comes outs of that inning with 26 pitches?!?!?!

  472. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Stop using my name. Melky is awesome.

  473. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    That was nice

  474. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    Quiroz did Giambi’s job.

    ‘kay, Joba. Do your thing.

  475. Old School Bronx Proud Italian American July 30th, 2008 at 1:32 pm

    double digits are in our cards….picking up a game on BOTH the Rays and the Sux today !!!

  476. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    Cano cooling off big time?

  477. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    THE YANKEES ARE BACK

    too soon to say that, lets see what happens during the Angels series.

  478. From LAX (yanks fan) July 30th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    YES! here comes the automatic homerun machine kevin millar!

  479. Blargh July 30th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    Eh, my favourite part of diners is that I can always order spaghetti.

  480. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 1:33 pm

    I missed it, how’d Baltimore score?

  481. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    well cano’s off the hook cause of the past ball

  482. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Cano error, bloop single

  483. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    NongEyeJon,

    What’s your name mean? It’s one of the more unusual ones. Ever!

  484. Andrea July 30th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Rebecca: that they don’t. But breakfast and grilled cheese is WHY I go to diners.

    mmmm.

  485. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    oh that’s not good, they have to take him out

  486. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:34 pm

    Cano’s been in the tank since everybody made a big deal about how he was carrying the team after Saturday’s game.

  487. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    Rayblay: Yeah, but a couple four pitch walks. They’re shorter ABs than 9 pitch 3-2 counts…

    Pedro: Nah, more just that he was insanely hot.

  488. Old School Bronx Proud Italian American July 30th, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    what is the injury delay ?

  489. pat July 30th, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    “lets see what happens during the Angels series.”

    We play today, we win today, that’s it. No looking ahead.

  490. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:35 pm

    7.08 Any runner is out when-

    (k) In running or sliding for home base, he fails to touch home base and makes no attempt to return to the base, when a fielder holds the ball in his hand, while touching home base, and appeals to the umpire for the decision. This rule applies only where runner is on his way to the bench and the catcher would be required to chase him. It does not apply to the ordinary play where the runner misses the plate and then immediately makes an effort to touch the plate before being tagged. In that case, runner must be tagged.
    http://www.baseball-almanac.com/rule7.shtml

    In other words, there seems to be no advantage to running out of the baseline directly at home plate (not in between third and home) so you are not out unless you basically abandon any effort to retouch home.

  491. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    luke scott fouled a pitch off his foot

  492. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    Mel (47-1), from the real person (me…Jon), its just a take a song written by a group I listen to called “NongEyeGong”. Not too original, I know.

  493. William Buckner July 30th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    Didn’t giambi have 3 hits last night, the last one bringing us w/ in a run?

  494. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 1:36 pm

    too soon to say that, lets see what happens during the Angels series

    When they get the lead, they rarely give it up. the problem is getting the lead

  495. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    what is the injury delay ?

    It looks like Luke Scott broke his ankle or shin.

  496. CaptainsCorner July 30th, 2008 at 1:37 pm

    Yeah Millar try and hit that pitch…

  497. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    Shin…that looked painful, like Dye’s.

  498. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    FINALLY someone gets Millar freaking out

  499. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    Let’s just take it one game at a time. Worry about the Angels tomorrow, right now they need to win this game

  500. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    I hate that PC Richards is sponsoring strikeouts

  501. FrankDiscussion July 30th, 2008 at 1:38 pm

    Watching the game on MASN, their gun is clocking Joba at 98-99 in the 2nd inning. Wow…

  502. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Is anyone else realllly excited to see what numbers Joba might put up next year in a full season? 200 k’s is attainable I’d say.

  503. S July 30th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Wow, MASN… the announcers…

    “He’ll take that breaking ball.”

    The gun read 98.

  504. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Joba dominates

  505. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Jon,

    Oh, I thought you were Asian or something. What kind of music is that?

    LOL@Kay. He’s so retarded it’s funny.

  506. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    When they get the lead, they rarely give it up. the problem is getting the lead

    Very true.

  507. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Broke his ankle? I really doubt he would be walking so well if he broke a bone. We know youre not a doctor.

  508. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    Thanks CUY

  509. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 1:39 pm

    “can we call that semi-clutch?”

    No we can’t. Don’t you know that only RBI in the 9th are considered clutchy? Unless the Yankees are up by 4 or more runs and Alex gets an RBI then it’s just padding the stats.

  510. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:40 pm

    Mel,
    A group called The Dillinger Escape Plan…if you have never heard of them, check out their myspace, but you might want to turn the volume down, a little :)

  511. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:41 pm

    PJH whatever it was it looked like it bended on impact.
    Again I’m no doctor but something happened there.

  512. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    Wheels falling off for the rookie in Toronto. 1st and 3rd no outs.

  513. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 1:42 pm

    Thanks, Ray – I post the same comment everytime he deigns to get hits in any inning other than the 9th. Hopefully one of these days we can end the “clutchness” discussion

  514. Andrea July 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    I wish Yankee broadcasts would stop talking about Manny.

  515. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    From Jon Heyman at SI.com (10:59am):

    “The Mariners still must think they can acquire a haul for lefty starter Jarrod Washburn. They just asked one National League team for two of its top prospects for a pitcher most teams think should have been traded to the Yankees by now. New York long ago offered to take Washburn and pay the rest of the $14 million left on his $37-million, four-year contract while sending Seattle a decent prospect. Instead, the Mariners have been trying for a home run. They want a top prospect back from the Yankees and for New York to pay Washburn’s entire contract. Let’s not forget, Washburn is 23-38 for the Mariners, though he does have a 2.44 ERA over his last nine starts.”

  516. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    Not too bad. Runs scores, but gets the DP.

  517. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    2-0 pop out. UGH.

  518. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    why is Nady swinging!

  519. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    Are you serious? Drill a ball off your ankle and watch it bend. It does not mean its broken.

  520. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:43 pm

    Jose Tabata’s future >>> Xavier Nady’s

  521. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    does tampa ever lose a fricken game?

  522. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    MELKY MELKY MELKY!!!!!

    What an at bat!

    SUPERSTAR!

  523. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    X, Melky, that’s, uh…not working the count.

  524. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:44 pm

    NongEyeJon Imposter…that is why I can’t stand Melky. He hits the ball in 1 of 3 places…to either middle infielder or to short left-field. He sucks.

  525. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    I don’t mind them getting out, but come on take some more pitches. I want to see 1 or 2 strikes on these guy before they swing.

  526. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    Oy Nady and Melky

  527. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    Can someone tell Nady that he replaced Gardner. That doesnt mean that he needs to bat like Gardner. Nady!! You are a .300 hitter. Try to remember that.

  528. yankee2 July 30th, 2008 at 1:45 pm

    no give nady time he will help this weekend trust me its better than gardner right now

  529. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Nice to see we shut it down with a 2 run lead.

  530. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:46 pm

    Way to go Yankees! You made the guy throw 25 pitches in the first, he’s on a pitch count, and low and behold, 9 pitches and 3 outs with him behind 2-0 in the count on one of the guys even. Pathetic. Take a freaking pitch when you know the guy is on a pitch count.

    What, do you think you’re going to do with his 96 mph fastball on 2-0? HE IS WILD, IT’S NOT EVEN GOING TO BE A STRIKE!

    These guys are so dumb. The guy is missing his target every pitch and they think they’ll get one down the middle 2-0? Somebody slap these guys.

  531. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Everytime I look at Nady I keep thinking we got ripped off w/ Tabata being dealt. :x

  532. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Melky has got to be the hitter with the most popouts.

    Way to keep the pressure on their pitcher guys!

  533. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    “I don’t mind them getting out, but come on take some more pitches. I want to see 1 or 2 strikes on these guy before they swing.”

    Am I delusional or didn’t Melky take 2 pitches before he swung? 1st pitch ball, second pitch strike, no?

  534. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:47 pm

    Toronto leadoff triple.

  535. cano he didnt July 30th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    i wonder how many times we will hear “sarfarte” today

  536. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Can someone tell me who is to blame for an inning like that? Obviously the players hold the most responsibility, but how is it possible that the coaching staff doesn’t DEMAND that this guy not throw less than 15 pitches an inning? It is absolutely absurd.

  537. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Lind with the leadoff triple for Toronto.

  538. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    Can Christian play center field? Maybe he needs a day off or so.

  539. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 1:48 pm

    the worse thing on the Nady Ab as someone said is he swung at a 2- 0 pitch, why????

    say he throws a strike go 2-1 and you swing at the next good pitch.

    bad bad bad baseball… melky cannot get around on a good fastball…

  540. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    … Are we losing? Are the Yankees losing the game? From the reactions around here, you’d almost think we were down by 20.

  541. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    What the hell is Cano doing today? Unbelievable. He needs to WAKE UP

  542. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Joba, outs please…

  543. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Cano screws up another one. What is up with that.

  544. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Yes, it could have been worse with Melky, but still you know what I mean.

  545. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 1:49 pm

    Is Cano working for Roberts?

  546. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    “Nady!! You are a .300 hitter. Try to remember that.”

    He’s not a .300 hitter. But he’s not a .100 hitter either.

    Probably settle in at .275-.280

  547. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    damn white shirts in the stands :x

  548. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    is this guy trying to make cano look bad?

  549. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:50 pm

    HOW DOES ADAM JONES GET THAT CALL !

  550. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Please send Roberts and Manny to play in Iraq.

  551. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    You can understand why Seatlle is gunshy to make any deal. Every day that Bedard trade is looking worse and worse. When you get ripped off by the Orioles, that’s rock bottom.

  552. 86w183 July 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Defense! Defense! Why must we always give teams extra outs?

    I’m with you guys on working counts… if you can get hits at least be pain the butt by fouling a few off.

  553. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:51 pm

    Have white shirts just been invented?

  554. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    Come on Joba!

  555. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    Slider in the dirt

    Pacman jones can’t hit that one

  556. Christine July 30th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    Best wishes to Jorge on a successful surgery and speedy recovery.

  557. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    C’mon, Joba!

  558. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:52 pm

    Wow Cano, way to show up today. That was an easy line drive DP and he missed it.

    And no, Melky does not need “a day off or so.” He needs to be benched, indefinitely. He is an automatic out with early in the count hacking. He has no fundamentals and plays stupid baseball- feet first sliding into first and booting a ball to wave to the bleacher creatures? Wake up and focus on the game.

    You all think he’s some god, but the only thing Melky has done that’s not total garbage is defense, and even on that he’s missed some balls he should have caught with lack of focus. And in case you didn’t notice, Damon’s range in center is about the same, so besides his throwing arm, Melky has no reason to ever be in a game.

    Should we continue to play a player who’s killing us just for his throwing arm? They won’t bench him because he’s a “boy,” but he should be riding the pine the way he’s played since June. Maybe some incentive will motivate him to focus and play better ball.

  559. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:53 pm

    CUY, I don’t know if when the Bedard deal went down that it was necessarily a bad=deal for Seattle, at the time. But, obviously, in hindsight, they were had by one of the lowliest examples of a baseball organization.

  560. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:54 pm

    Yeah, but they should have been a little more wary about a pitcher who was shut down by injury I’d say. Now if Baltimore can flip Sherrill for anything decent it becomes even worse.

  561. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    Joba. Please, outs?

  562. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    It’s the Orioles, Joba, beat them!

  563. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    Strikes, Joba, strikes

  564. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    SHOCKER! Cano’s 2 booted balls both come around to score. Pitching AND DEFENSE.

  565. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    dammit..

  566. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    Yankees 3
    Canos 2

  567. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    Bench this player, bench that player … who’s going to take their place?

  568. Wangawa July 30th, 2008 at 1:55 pm

    i really can’t wait until the orioles leave town

  569. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    The Orioles are kings at turning jam shots into singles.

  570. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    Not Joba’s fault- they’re all flares. Place the blame on your boy Cano, who booted 2 balls that led to both runs scoring by giving the Orioles 4 or 5 outs in an inning.

  571. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    Cano really trying his absolute hardest to give this game away. WTF.

  572. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    mother heffalumper

  573. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    Strikes Joba

  574. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    SHOCKER! Cano’s 2 booted balls both come around to score. Pitching AND DEFENSE.

    Hey the first one I understand, that 2nd one was a linedrive that he didn’t see mixed w/ shirts in the stands. It happens.

  575. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    “Bench this player, bench that player … who’s going to take their place?”

    Bench Melky, bring up gardner full time

  576. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 1:56 pm

    You all think he’s some god, but the only thing Melky has done that’s not total garbage is defense, and even on that he’s missed some balls he should have caught with lack of focus. And in case you didn’t notice, Damon’s range in center is about the same, so besides his throwing arm, Melky has no reason to ever be in a game.

    They all just want to keep wearing their “Got Melky” t-shirts.

  577. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Exactly m4rk6, what’s a better alternative to Melky? (sadly there isn’t one)

  578. pat July 30th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Cano’s replacement is Betemit. Want to bench Robbie?

  579. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Kind of surprised the O’s don’t have action on Huff. He’s having a nice year and would probably bring them something.

  580. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    Gotta love these .240-.250 hitters owning us.

  581. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 1:57 pm

    I surprised the O’s didn’t try Damon’s surgically-in need noodle arm. I woulda.

  582. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    Unfortunately, right now gardner does not seem like an improvement to Melky.

  583. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    And I’ve never seen one team get so many lucky bloops and flares that led to runs within a 24 hour period.

  584. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    M4RK6….you can at least give Justin Christian a shot in center. It doesn’t mean he’ll do well…but Cabrera is awful and something needs to be done.

  585. pat July 30th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    Brandon

    A-Rod is hitting more than 323 and he got a hit w/RISP.

  586. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    Wait.

    Toronto hit a lead off triple and they didn’t score?

    When did they turn into the Yankees?

  587. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 1:58 pm

    Back to work bats

  588. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    “Bench Melky, bring up gardner full time”

    Didn’t we try that experiment already?

  589. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    if joba goes 6,7 innings with only 2 runs, we can’t really say anything bad

  590. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    Had forgotten Cano could field…

  591. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    good job by cano not to let his foot get in the way of his glove this time.

  592. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    Good to see the old Robinson Cano is back

  593. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    Ok. We got out of that inning with only one run. Let’s pad the lead.

  594. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 1:59 pm

    At least Christian is not an automatic out at the plate like Melky and in terms of speed and defense, they’re not that far apart. Christian takes pitches and works the count and occassionally gets on base where he’s a great base stealer. Melky never works the count, never gets on base, and rarely steals a base when he does so.

    Which player would help our team more now? Lazy, automatic out, or disciplined, solid baserunner, gritty player?

  595. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    “Bench Melky, bring up gardner full time”

    If my math serves me right. .250 is better than .150. Gardner isnt the answer.

  596. SJ44 July 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Yeah, Gardner showed so much in his time here that he should be the everyday CF.

    Stick to PlayStation.

  597. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Cano owes Joba several pitches. I guess the defense’s decision to actually make GOOD plays behind Joba carried a 1 game statute of limitations.

  598. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Let’s score some runs and give Joba a lift.

  599. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Brandon

    A-Rod is hitting more than 323 and he got a hit w/RISP.

    I know I was shocked in the first inning but he needs to strive for consistancy in that situational hitting department.

  600. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    Minimized the damage.

    Robi’s play is reminiscent of his early days. Couldn’t play for beans in day games.

    Top of the order. Let’s see what happens.

  601. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:00 pm

    So…are we going to see another 9-pitch inning?

  602. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    “if joba goes 6,7 innings with only 2 runs, we can’t really say anything bad”

    Why would anyone say anything bad???

    Pitch count a bit of a concern now. 52 thru 3. He needs a rocking chair inning.

  603. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    wow its trolls.com today eh

  604. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    I would gladly take Gardner in CF over Melky.

    Yes Gardner struggled at the plate, but lots of rookies do right away. He’s a smart guy, unlike Melky, and given enough at bats I think there’s a decent chance he adjusts and could be a useful part of the lineup. Melky has had plenty of at bats and has made zero adjustments or progress.

  605. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    The whole ball coming out of white shirts thing may sound like a good reason, but its just an excuse for a misplay on the part of Cano.

  606. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    “Unfortunately, right now gardner does not seem like an improvement to Melky.”

    Or try Christian. Ya know what, I would rather go to a game and watch Gardner hit .230 and steal second every time than watch Melky hit .240 and be a dud.

  607. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Speaking of trying to give a game away. Toronto had a man on third no outs and didnt bring him in.

  608. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    The O’s against us are like the old, murder’s row.

  609. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 2:01 pm

    Uh, we didn’t do that full time. We were forced to play Gardner AND Melky because of Damon on the DL. Now we don’t have to. Bench Melky and play Gardner full time. At the very least, Gardner will run up a pitcher’s pitch count, and if he happens to poke one to get on base, he can steal 2nd AND 3rd without a problem, pretty much guaranteeing a run.

    Gardner’s defense is probably the same if not slightly better with his speed, and he is an automatic run every time he reaches. He’s more dynamic and more exciting than Melky right now, and he’d help our team a lot more even if he just lays down a bunt to move the runners up instead of first pitch pop out or GIDP

  610. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    Damon remembers to walk!

  611. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    U guys are ridiculous. CANO has been on fire at the plate and made 1 error and guys make it like hes Chuck Knoblauch. The last hit was a rocket and he jumped. It wasnt an error or routine play. One day you guys love him than hate him. You are not real Yankee fans, You know what If Cano does anything good you guys dont have the right to route for HIM. The KID is a very good player and has been a good YANKEE and is one the Top 5 2bs in baseball. GO ROBBIE #24

  612. Olan July 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    wow joba @52 pitches

  613. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    The thing that bothers me about Melky’s play is a seeming complacent attitude…no improvement, seemingly trying to show off for the cameras, the crowd, etc…because there is no one threatening his job, he is not doing what it takes to get better. Maybe he isn’t going to get better, but I don’t see a guy who, at the plate, is even trying.

  614. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

    Again concerning Robi’s defense the first ball I can understand, but you people got to be nuts to blame that LD single on him ! (If the ball in broad daylight gets caught in those white shirts and he can’t see it what is he suppose to do ?)

  615. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    “Kay doesn’t always mean strikeout.”

    What a tool. Is he married to a Steinbrenner daughter we don’t know about?

  616. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Sacrifice , move Damon over..

  617. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    “When did they turn into the Yankees?”

    they turned into the Yankees (not hitting with RISP) since before we’ve been the Yankees, lol. Technically, when our guys strand runners, we are “pulling a Toronto” I guess.

  618. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Well of course his pitch count is high, when the opposing team gets 4 outs the first inning, and possibly 5 the second inning, that’s an extra inning already that he’s had to pitch…

  619. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:03 pm

    Glad to see the top of the lineup are earning their pay today.

  620. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    I have a Robinson Cano question. When, if ever, was the last time Cano dove for a ball? I really cant remember him ever making a diving stop. I think it might have happened once or twice, but I cant remember it.

  621. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Matt, where were you during the eight game win streak?

  622. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Wow…that was a pitiful at-bat.

  623. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Like I said, High fastball > Jeter. He just can’t catch up :(

  624. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    The O’s line-up is patient, took a page from our style of hitting.

  625. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 2:04 pm

    Jeter eschews the GIDP and K’s instead.

  626. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    at least jeter didn’t GIDP for once.

  627. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    Brandon, what do you want him to do? Maybe if he can’t catch it, just knock it down or something, and at least have a chance of getting the guy at first…

    Come on, there are plenty of infield line drives caught.

  628. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    Is it OK to expect a lot more from our captain than that pathetic AB?

  629. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 2:05 pm

    Folks. Gardners is best at looking at strike 3 pass him by. Podsednic looks like a .300 hitter compared to him.

  630. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Joba’s pitch count will be ok with 2 quick innings..

  631. Original V July 30th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    I hope this isn’t a Joba let down game.

  632. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Did Jeter’s bat even move on that last pitch. I’ve seen way worse not get called.

  633. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    “Or try Christian. Ya know what, I would rather go to a game and watch Gardner hit .230 and steal second every time than watch Melky hit .240 and be a dud.”

    Hi Russell, me Ray. In theory your statement sounds ridiculous. In practice it’s even more ridiculous considering Gardner didn’t even hit .200 while he was here.

  634. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    It’s funny how Adam Jones gets that “did he go ?” call but Jetes doesn’t..it’s just funny to me, here I thought the vet gets that call.

  635. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    I’m not watching the same game as some of you, I guess. I hadn’t realized that Cano was giving up line drives all over the ball park. I was thinking Chamberlain was starting, today.

  636. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    YAY BOBBY!

  637. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:06 pm

    Brandon…no offense, as sometimes tone can’t get discerned on the computer, but again, white shirts are not a new fad…AND he’s wearing sunglasses.

  638. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    BOBPY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  639. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Damn Bobby loves to DH 8O

  640. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    YES Bobby!!! That’s the way to do it!

  641. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Niiiiice.

  642. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    GreenBeret…Joba has given up one hard-hit ball.

  643. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    YAY Bobby!

  644. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    That was the perfect hit and run by Abreu.

  645. cano he didnt July 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    heck keep abreu DHing, he almost always comes through, at least compared to most other yankees, i like him at a DH role over jorge or giambi, maybe not matsui but close(next year)

  646. DV July 30th, 2008 at 2:07 pm

    Here comes another crooked number on the board for the Uanghbyyyyyysbeysea…..Darn Cat !…..for the Yankees !

  647. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Thank you, Bobby……

  648. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    ARod just missed that.

  649. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Rebecca, why would I post on here when they’re winning? There’s nothing to discuss since everyone is just kissing everyone’s butts. You can’t discuss any real debates or issues with the team when everyone is in a delusional “we’re going to win the world series because of an 8 game winning streak!!!!” state of mind.

    Melky’s horrible performance is an issue. Just because I criticize him doesn’t mean I’m not a fan or a bandwagoner. Maybe the real, more knowledgable fans are the ones perhaps who actually logically and realistically look at their team instead of gushing over everyone because they’re a Yankee?

  650. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Abreu can hit homers?

    Who knew? ;)

  651. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Good for Abreu. Good for Joba. Good for LoHud.

  652. NHYankee July 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    How about this!….. most run support Joba’s ever had as a Yankee!

  653. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    “I have a Robinson Cano question. When, if ever, was the last time Cano dove for a ball? I really cant remember him ever making a diving stop. I think it might have happened once or twice, but I cant remember it.”

    He doesn’t dive because he’s always in the right spot perhaps? It’s just a theory however.

  654. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    GB: LMAO!

    Maybe we should just make Bobby our full time DH :-P

  655. JT July 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    LOVE ABREUS ENTHUSIASM AND ENERGY THE LAST FEW GAMES

    HES GONNA BE HUGE THIS STRETCH RUN

  656. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    Bobby, I’ll never talk smack about your fear of walls again. THANK YOU!!!

    Abreu with men on = teh pwnz0rz. seriously, I’m pretty sure he leads the team in batting with RISP. Kind of makes you think twice about sending him packing next year…

  657. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    Ahh. Gameday doesn’t show if it’s a check swing. I thought Jeter swung at that high fastball.

  658. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    That must be your sarcasm coming through, huh, NongEyeJon?

  659. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    Melky’s horrible performance is an issue. Just because I criticize him doesn’t mean I’m not a fan or a bandwagoner. Maybe the real, more knowledgable fans are the ones perhaps who actually logically and realistically look at their team instead of gushing over everyone because they’re a Yankee?

    True fans aren’t objective.

  660. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    most run support Joba’s ever had as a Yankee!

    For real? That’s kinda..sad.

  661. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    Brandon,

    To be fair, there’s no wall for the DH. :)

  662. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:09 pm

    That foul ball means….strike out.

  663. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    woot – yay for abreu (finally)

  664. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    No sarcasm there GreenBeret…Joba hasn’t been hit hard at all. RBI’s came on bloops.

  665. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    C’mon c’mon. Let’s keep it rolling.

  666. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:10 pm

    #

    # Matt July 30th, 2008 at 2:08 pm

    Rebecca, why would I post on here when they’re winning? There’s nothing to discuss since everyone is just kissing everyone’s butts. You can’t discuss any real debates or issues with the team when everyone is in a delusional “we’re going to win the world series because of an 8 game winning streak!!!!” state of mind.

    Uh. No. Not quite. No.

  667. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    Rebecca, Abreu’s hitting over .360 as a DH, careerwise.

  668. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:11 pm

    C’mon say it. Whatever happens it’s a good at bat by Giambi.

  669. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Mel…I didnt think about it that way. Abreu is probably so concerned about running into a wall, that it gets in the way of his hitting. Maybe clear walls are what he needs…so he can’t see it approaching.

  670. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    raymagnetic.

    not sure you point on cano not diving is valid. I think cano has very good range and gets to balls that others may dive for.

    Also, he has a great arm so that lets him play back a bit more too.

    Nady is starting to annoy me. Cash has to be sweating this trade. i guess you cant win them all

  671. Guy Incognito July 30th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    What an at-bat by Giambi…Sarfate is cooked, four IP max.

    Who’s Baltimore’s long man?

  672. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    how to maximize this team’s talent -
    Bobby DH
    Damon LF
    Christian CF (just on a 1 or 2 day trial basis)
    Nady RF
    Melky bench

    at least it’s worth a try right?

  673. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    “at least jeter didn’t GIDP for once.”

    Haha, exactly what I was thinking. However, someone put together a list of the top GIDP in the majors. Jeter was near the top but all the people around him were great caliber players. So that cooled my buttons a bit.

  674. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Wow, Toronto for the 2nd inning had a runner at 3rd and no outs and is on the verge of not scoring again! Jeez!

  675. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 2:12 pm

    Toronto has second and third with 2 outs. Lets see if they pull through.

  676. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    The biggest reason for Abreu not crashing into walls was a badly separated left shoulder from crashing into walls as a rookie in 1997.

  677. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    I don’t think Cash will sweat the Nady trade unless Tabata becomes the next Beltran…or somebody better.

  678. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    BBB – I’m aboard. Where’s the petition?

  679. NHYankee July 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    Come on guys!

    Are you really going to write off Nady after 4 games!?

  680. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    Toronto-Barf

  681. SJ44 July 30th, 2008 at 2:14 pm

    Objectivity cuts both ways. Most folks who understand the game on here don’t have a problem being objective.

    They just don’t believe every minor league player, especially the one’s who haven’t played well here, are the answers to the teams problem.

    Melky is struggling. That’s not news. However, the proposed replacements aren’t better than he is.

    If they were, they would be in the lineup.

    Tryouts are over. Its the stretch run.

    They aren’t replacing Melky Cabrera with Brett Gardner or Justin Christian for the rest of the year.

    All the whining in the world isn’t going to change it.

    Melky isn’t even the biggest problem with the team. That’s what’s so comical about the entire debate.

    He’s just the conveinent whipping boy for the day.

  682. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    Toronto had the bases loaded and didn’t score.

    They must really not like us north of the border ;)

  683. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    “Christian CF (just on a 1 or 2 day trial basis)”

    honestly, didn’t we try that already?

  684. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    Does anyone have Verizon FIOS in NJ? All of my sports channels changed overnight.

  685. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2008 at 2:15 pm

    “I have a Robinson Cano question. When, if ever, was the last time Cano dove for a ball? I really cant remember him ever making a diving stop. I think it might have happened once or twice, but I cant remember it.”

    Diving’s not cooool.

  686. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    Some of you guys are willing to wait the entire first half for Cano to start hitting, but you won’t give Nady a full week? The guy can play, give him a chance!

  687. NHYankee July 30th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    GreenBeret; that’s still no excuse for not giving it your all when you’re making $16 million.

    Last time I checked; Damon and Matsui aren’t afraid of walls or diving for balls.

  688. DV July 30th, 2008 at 2:16 pm

    double digits

  689. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    NHYankee: Tabata was a favorite prospect of Brandon’s…he’s allowed to be bitter about it ;)

    I don’t blame X. He’s bound to be distracted with a new baby.

  690. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Melky isn’t even the biggest problem with the team. That’s what’s so comical about the entire debate.

    Who is a bigger problem in the lineup?

    Not counting Molina, there’s nothing you can really do about that.

  691. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Christian plays a very solid center field. He plays all three very well. In an emergency, he could play second base, but, he wouldn’t make you miss Betemit.

  692. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    “I don’t think Cash will sweat the Nady trade unless Tabata becomes the next Beltran…or somebody better.”

    That always sucks. But you use what information you’ve got in front of you at the time. And at the time he had a wrist injury, lack-of-power, head-case outfielder. You can’t be that mad if he turns into a stud when he looks like he does right now.

  693. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    I wouldn’t say Cabrera is a convenient whipping boy. Nobody gets on Molina because he really isn’t expected to drive in a lot of runs. Cabrera is a center-fielder who is now the whipping boy because he has not progressed at all.

  694. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:17 pm

    Millar, Huff are like Gehrig, Ruth against us…

  695. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    Heh, I just try to ignore the posts that wail and cry about Nady. 4 games, was it? and one a pinch hit? He’s been swinging against NL pitchers, he’s going to need some time to adjust and get to know the AL pitchers.

  696. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    Rebecca, Abreu’s hitting over .360 as a DH, careerwise.
    .444 OBP % (this number more than his regular .406 as a RF)
    .468 SLG % (he’s .500 SLG as a RF which is about the same)

    It’s like he turns into Barry Bonds or something as a DH.. that HR was his first as a DH

  697. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    niiiiice catch

  698. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 2:18 pm

    Im surprised Jeter caught that with all the white shirts

  699. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    5 runs on 2 hits? A run scored on an E9, a wild pitch, A-Rod’s single, and a 2-run HR. Odd way of scoring 5 runs but it still works. Of course, we need to start hitting the ball a bit more this weekend because we probably won’t get those breaks against the first place Angels.

  700. Guy Incognito July 30th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    Woof. I can tell you, from Sarfate’s perspective, there’s nothing worse than getting lit up one inning just to have the opposing pitcher go 1-2-3 through your lineup.

    Back out there, Dennis!

  701. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    I give X some time to adjust..he’s been a National League player his entire career and has not seen many of these pitchers. There is an adjustment process.

  702. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:19 pm

    GreenBeret7:

    Do you think giving Christian a shot at center is worth it, he is also very fast…..

  703. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    Tabata’s lost some power ever since he got hit in the wrist. I’m sure he’ll get it back. Let the Pirates develop him and the Yankees can acquire him when (if) he develops.

  704. NHYankee July 30th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    One of the things that stood out to me when reading about Tabata’s attitude problems: he once left a game in progress out of frustration.

    What a stand up guy!

  705. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    All the white shirts conveniently disappeared on that line-drive.

  706. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    Nice easy inning for Joba.

  707. DV July 30th, 2008 at 2:20 pm

    taking pitches and scoring runs…..THIS is the way to play the game !

  708. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Hey can Abreu transition to 1st, in the off season and find another CF/lf???

  709. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    Robbie just got under that one.

  710. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 2:21 pm

    One would figure someone with a broken ankle would not have caught that fly ball.

  711. DV July 30th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    let’s go, Nady…you can do it !

  712. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    The Angels scare me. But its one game at a time. At least they pounded the Sox.

  713. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    If we are gonna start relying on Toronto to bring home RISP, it’s gonna be a long afternoon. They make this team look like the ’27 Yanks with men on.

  714. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Did Girardi really say Cabrera had pinpoint control? I’d say he’s actually the 180 opposite of pinpoint.

  715. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    I hate Gameday because I can’t see how comfortable the batter is swinging at the pitch? Does Nady look like he’s got his timing down?

  716. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 2:22 pm

    Nady still struggling.

  717. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Melky grounds out to short…I call it.

  718. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Nady = 1 for 13

  719. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Good point SJ, but Melky’s failings are exposed every other inning and usually on a single pitch so being exposed so often during a game opens him up pretty often to criticism.

  720. NHYankee July 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Surprised Joba hasn’t been suspended yet.

    Last year Youkilis and the Sox whined about it for a week and MLB gave in.

  721. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    “Melky grounds out to short…I call it.”

    I’m betting 2nd base.

  722. DV July 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    .077 as a Yankee …so far, he has been brutal…wow !

  723. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Holy crap…I’m a genius.

  724. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Another quick inning from Cano-Nady-Melky.

  725. JT July 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    NADYS SWING WAY TOO LONG AND WAY LATE

  726. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:23 pm

    Bob: Bigger problem in the line up?

    Look at Jeter’s GIDP.

    Or Giambi outside of June.

  727. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    DAMNIT, you win. Two pitches and he grounds to short. Melky… you suck.

  728. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    MELKY!

    Nice at bat.

    Why waste time taking pitches?

    Just hurry up and get another worthless AB over with.

    LECHE LECHE LECHE!!!!!!!!!

  729. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    “raymagnetic.

    not sure you point on cano not diving is valid. I think cano has very good range and gets to balls that others may dive for. ”

    How is my point not valid? If he has great range, then that lets him always be in the right spot and therefor he doesn’t have to dive to make up the ground. Is that clearer for you?

  730. DV July 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    and the MelkMan again shows what he is worth…..nada….

  731. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    Does anyone know what Sarfate’s career high pitch count is?

  732. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    WTF is Kay talking about. Joba has been taken to task. He’s been raked through the coals about Youkilis. Argh!

  733. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    The bottom of this lineup has become a black hole.

  734. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 2:24 pm

    Guess we just gotta be patient with Nady. :|

  735. NHYankee July 30th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Is Kay really this stupid???

    Obviously we know Girardi was defending his player…. Kay even said so himself!

    So why even bring up Joba….

    what a jacka$$!

  736. DV July 30th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    So far, it again looks like we have a great 1-4 lineup, then have to endure the 5-9 hitters before we have a chance to score again.

  737. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    For all of you who don’t think Melky matters, his OBP is on the verge of dropping below .300. When you have a guy in the lineup with a sub .300 OBP who doesn’t hit for power or average, he’s a very big black hole and automatic out that kills rallies.

    The difference with Molina is that he’s such an exceptional catcher and they have nobody else that you live with him. Melky is a good defender, but he is lazy in the field sometimes and they DO have guys with comparable abilities in the field and at the plate if not better ones.

    1 automatic out is fine, but 2 back to back ones kills.

  738. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    My favorite thing is if Joba has such great control, would he not have hit Youkilis by now?

  739. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Hopefully Kevin Long is working on him. He does have a high leg kick. –Nady

  740. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:25 pm

    Sarfate’s career high is 51. He’s definitely passed that.

  741. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    2 hits…against Dennis Sarfate….wow. I don’t care what the score is until the game is over, but 2 hits??

  742. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:26 pm

    Again….time to give Christian a chance to play center. My memory is shoddy but I think I’ve seen him do so in Trenton and he did fine. And his AB’s can’t possibly be any worse than Melky’s. And it’s not like we couldn’t use Melky as a pinch runner late in the game.

  743. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    I’m also stuck with game day..What is Joba’s pitch count?

  744. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    And the funny part? Even 1-for-13 as a Yankee, Nady’s still hitting .321.

    I’ll give him a pass as he adjusts to the AL. Kevin Long just needs to do his magic.

  745. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Jeter’s GIDP never really bothered me. It’s just that this year, it seems to be a real rally killer. He can GIDP all he wants when we have a lead, just not when we’re chasing. :P

  746. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    “MELKY!

    Nice at bat.

    Why waste time taking pitches?

    Just hurry up and get another worthless AB over with.

    LECHE LECHE LECHE!!!!!!!!!”

    Isn’t it amazing that the Yankees have 5 runs when their big run producer is hitless? :???:

  747. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    5 runs!

  748. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:27 pm

    Tabata wasn’t hit on the wrist. He had a cyst and a broken hamate bone (palm of the hand). That’s a fairly common occurance from gripping the bat on the knob.

  749. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    PC at 71

  750. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    BBB…I remember Christian getting a spot-start in left about a week, or 2 ago, and had 2 rbis, I believe. I am just so sick of Cabrera, and moronic KAY seems to mention absolutely nothing about it.

  751. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Joba 2 strikeouts away from 100 on the season!

  752. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    “I’m also stuck with game day..What is Joba’s pitch count?”

    Timmy

    Upper left side, the one with the pitcher’s mugshot. His pitch count is there.

  753. JoeT 28 in 09!! Pitch PAVANO until his arm falls off!! (over/under 3 innings) July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    “My favorite thing is if Joba has such great control, would he not have hit Youkilis by now?”

    perfect comment… if we’re lucky, one day he will

  754. DV July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Joba is a machine and is our #1 starter

  755. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    Did the Yankees have to let PC Richards by thier rights to strikeout ring ups :?

  756. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    99 k’s for Joba now.

  757. Lol July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    USED SECOND BASEMAN FOR SALE, CAN’T HIT CAN’T FIELD

    http://milwaukee.craigslist.org/rnr/774083351.html

    This is a classified ad for Milwaukee Brewers second baseman Rickie Weeks. I’m not going to lie, the condition of this product is very worn down. Well, to be honest, there wasn’t much there to begin with, but the value has sharply declined from what little it had. Some arm-strength left. Maybe if you need someone to start a lawnmower or snowblower that has a pullcord? Also, frequently misses the target whenever you put a baseball bat in his hands. If you have a vintage bat that you would like to keep in untouched condition, just put it in his hands and throw him strikes. Any considerations offered, no offer to small.

  758. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:28 pm

    A 3-pitch strikeout of Brian Roberts is just what the doctor ordered. I am really looking forward to the Joba-Wang-Pettitte rotation next year.

  759. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Two hits, and how many walks?

    We’re making the hits count.

    Can’t ask for more than that.

  760. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Also, Melky is barely seeing 3 pitcher per plate appearance. It’s one tihng if it’s like Molina where he’s blown away on 3 straight pitches but Melky is just swinging at junk and popping out. Also, Molina shuts down a running game and lowers pitchers’ ERA’s by a run or two with good game calling.

    We’re beginning to reach a point where Melky’s offensive woes are outweighing his defensive gain soon. You could afford to run him out there as the 9 hitter with good defense because everyone else could pick up the slack. Now with Posada and Matsui out, not as much. He’s regressing in every way possible, and his lack of smart baseball is hurting us.

  761. DV July 30th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Yes..but after 30 ABs in the AL, he BETTER be hitting MUCH better than .077 as a Yankee !

  762. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    “WTF is Kay talking about. Joba has been taken to task. He’s been raked through the coals about Youkilis”

    He has been. Odd thing is Youkilis didn’t say a word about it this time, but the national media really got on his case. Saw Olney, Rosenthal and Heyman all call him on it.

  763. Andy July 30th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    DESPITE having to get extra outs due to horrible defense, Joba’s in line to have about 15 pitches per inning today; he should be able to get through 7 at that pace.

  764. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    This is OT-but what happened to Micah Owings? He was optioned back to triple A. I thought he would turn it around. eesh.

    Yay Joba!

  765. SJ44 July 30th, 2008 at 2:30 pm

    Bob,

    I’d say Giambi is a pretty big problem. #5 hitter in the lineup, he’s under .200 w/RISP and hasn’t hit for 5 weeks.

    Who do you think the Yankees are counting on more for offense, Melky or Giambi?

    Jeter’s lack of pop is also a concern.

    Cano’s lackadasical play? I’d put that above Melky’s problems.

    All of the above guys are being counted on by the Yankees to do more than Melky Cabrera. Thus far, all are coming up short. That’s a problem.

    I’m not saying Melky is having a great year. He isn’t.

    I don’t believe Gardner and Christian are upgrades. They aren’t. The Yankees gave Gardner a shot to win PT. He was horrifically overmatched at the plate and isn’t as good a CF as Melky. That’s why he’s back in AAA.

    Melky’s issues would be less of a problem if the top part of the lineup was driving in runs.

    Now, if you want to say Melky has to pick up his game for the stretch run, I agree 100%.

    But, to say he’s the #1 problem? I disagree.

  766. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Matt, I hear you, I feel your pain. I get up and pace every time Melky comes up to the plate with RISP, because I KNOW, I JUST KNOW that he’s going to swing at the first pitch and pop up or fly out or …

    But there is no alternative. The alternatives suck worse.

  767. DV July 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    I am calling Yankees score 12-15 runs this game…

  768. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Joba lacks a ceiling.

  769. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Matt….with me, you are preaching to the choir. Everything you’ve said is absolutely true about Melky, from his lack of smarts, to his offensive woes outweighing his defense capabilities. I just wish someone else besides us fans would say something…Kay, a newspaper, SOMEBODY. He’s doing the NYY centerfield legacy a disservice.

  770. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    I love cano, and I don’t hate melky, but it does seem that they have compromised the Yankees’ strategy in the recent past of taking tons and tons of pitches.

  771. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    I’m going to write two paragraphs on how much Melky sucks. He sucks so bad I’m going to write two whole paragraphs about how much he sucks. Don’t you guys get it? He really, really, really sucks. We need to get a better center fielder, because this guy really sucks.

    This is my second paragraph whining about how much Melky sucks. Raise your hand if you think he doesn’t suck. Now take that hand and slap yourself in the face you idiot, he sucks!

    BONUS PARAGRAPH – Melky sucks.

  772. Whiff (Cano's bat) July 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Don’t you all wish Hughes was the stud Chamberlain is?

    Fear Hughes is going to be one of those that is consistently on the DL or skipping starts.

    there is no doubt he can pitch and pitch effectively, but….

  773. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    “I am just so sick of Cabrera, and moronic KAY seems to mention absolutely nothing about it.”

    Could it be that YOU are the moron for harping on a bottom of the order hitter not hitting. Do you not think there is a reason why he bats in the bottom of the order?

  774. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Tomothy C, yeah, Christian could play a good center field. His arm is solid, but, not Cabrera (more like Nady). He’s nearly as fast as Damon and has some home run power and extra base/gap power. He was an independent league pickup and not drafted out of college. He’s worked hard to get as far as he has. Is he a long term answer? No, but, right now, he’s a better player than Gardner. Better than Cabrera? Hard to say.

  775. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Regarding Melky – either he’s bad or just ridiculously unlucky.

  776. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Gardner = intellect

    Melky = kaopectate

  777. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:33 pm

    Fredo:

    Youk didn’t even get hit, but some one did…….

  778. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    “Regarding Melky – either he’s bad or just ridiculously unlucky.”

    Bad and unlucky. How’s that for a combo.

  779. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    ***Timothy C.***

  780. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    Matt, if Melky was the Yankees biggest problem right now, they would deal with it.

    He’s not. Get over it.

  781. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    Melky, Cano and Giambi have actually all had really bad luck with balls in play this year.

  782. CB July 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    “Who is a bigger problem in the lineup?”

    Jason Giambi is hitting .204 with RISP. That is horrendous for a 5th hole hitter. Horrendous. The number of runs he has cost this team by leaving men on base is inconceivable. I’d guess that is by far the worst BA with RISP in all of baseball for any 5 hole hitter.

    That is by far the biggest problem in the yankees line up. Its cost them tons of runs. Its really difficult to even get a sense of this watching the games and looking at his numbers because its so unusual to see a player in an RBI producing position in the line up hit so poorly with men on base.

    If he’s not hitting home runs he doesn’t drive in runs consistently at all.

    Bobby Abreu no longer gets on base at nearly the same rate as he did before. Its hard to have a 3 whole hitter with a sub .450 slugging %, especially if his OBP is less than .380 or so.

    Not getting on base in front of ARod and Giambi costs this team a lot of runs as they wind up hitting fewer home runs with men on base.

    Jeter is having an off year – he’s not getting on base nearly as much as he usually does and isn’t hitting for much power.

    Cano has a .301 OBP. That is horrible.

    ARod is hitting .250 with RISP. That is almost 80 points lower than his over all BA. That is hard to believe – yet its true. I can’t see this discrepancy lasting and I think it’ll correct and ARod wil drive a ton of runs in to finish the season. That said, he’s cost them a lot of runs to date.

    When your 4 hole hitter is hitting .250 with RISP and your 5 hole hitter is hitting .204 with RISP your offense is going to struggle – which it has. Those kinds of problems dwarf what your 8 hole hitter is doing.

    Melky is having a terrible year – hopefully Jackson will replace him in the near future (though I don’t think that will happen until 2010).

    But all of those problems are a bigger issue than Melky’s terrible year because Melky is a CF who hits 8th in a line up which shouldn’t need its 8th whole hitter to do that much.

    Melky is killing them by making outs at such a high rate. But a lot of that is related to Posada’s injury. What really kills the yankees is the combination of Melky and Molina in the line up at the same time.

    That’s why it was so important for them to get Nady and get gardner out of the line up. Way too many outs being generated.

    That said the team’s biggest problems are in the top 6.

  783. NHYankee July 30th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    DV: You can say that again: Joba is our #1 starter. In my book he IS the rookie of the year, not Longoria.

    Yes Longoria has had a great year, but he’s gotten alot more media exposure.

    Not enough has been said about the way Joba flawlessly transitioned from being the best setup man in baseball to our #1 starter.. ON THE MLB LEVEL!!!! That’s unheard of!!! When’s the last time that ever happened???

    Russell: the pitching rotation looks great next year. Just imagine if we can add Sabathia to it! Which we should btw… be willing to go all out to outbid anyone for him.

    It’d be the best rotation in baseball hands down (plus I think Hughes will be a very good contributor next year… there was a reason he was ranked ahead of Joba).

  784. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    I just don’t understand how anyone can defend having an everyday CFer with an OPS of .654

    It’s just awful.

  785. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    Yes, I’ll readily admit I’m a moron for criticizing Melky Cabrera’s .240 batting average. Didn’t Cano bat 9th for a bit in his first/2nd years? Oh yeah…thats because they had a deep lineup. Just because you bat 7-9 in the order does not mean you have to suck.

  786. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:35 pm

    Here comes the 5.33 ERA pitcher that is going to shut us down for a few innings.

  787. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 2:36 pm

    kevin millar/face paint = strange

  788. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    anybody have a stat of how the rest of MLB does vs LHPs I’m curious

  789. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    man – jeter’s AB’s today have just been brutal.

  790. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Now there’s Burres, pretty good chance he’ll shut us down the rest of the game.

  791. G. Love (*coined the term Prospect Hugger) July 30th, 2008 at 2:37 pm

    Ray,

    Are you perhaps Dominican or related to Melky and Cano in any way?

    Just curious.

    They play some of the stupidest baseball on this team and cost this team runs with their play and you defend them like they are Mays and Mantle on here when anyone criticizes them.

  792. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Thank god Baltimore started Sarfate and not soft tossing lefty 5.50 ERA Burress, or we might have been losing right now.

  793. Jason July 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    This is a little late and not really relevant to the game, but there should be a national campaign to give Joba the nickname: “Youk-Killer”

  794. JM July 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    Talk about making the most out of 2 hits.

    Wow!!

  795. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 2:38 pm

    the multi millionaires may be taking the rest of the game off after all they scored 5 runs.. Get the parade ready the Yanks scored 5 runs.. How about making life easier for your starter???????

    How many balls has Jeter swung at today or tried to swing at, I guess about 6 by now……

  796. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 2:39 pm

    SJ44, I can’t disgaree with you on those other problems.

    All of those other guys have track records that at least can give you hope that they can get it going.

    Melky does not offer that.

    He is just a bad player who really has no business being a full time major league player.

    Seems like one area where they could make just about any move and improve that spot in the lineup.

    They’re not gonna replace Jeter, Giambi, etc.

    Melky is replaceable and should be.

  797. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    “Thank god Baltimore started Sarfate and not soft tossing lefty 5.50 ERA Burress, or we might have been losing right now.”

    I think you meant to say “would have been” *** Honestly, I hope they can get a run of Burress, this is usually where the Yankees die. They run the pitch count up on the starter then get killed by the middle relief guys

  798. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:40 pm

    Jason Giambi is hitting .204 with RISP. That is horrendous for a 5th hole hitter. Horrendous. The number of runs he has cost this team by leaving men on base is inconceivable. I’d guess that is by far the worst BA with RISP in all of baseball for any 5 hole hitter.

    Didn’t he leave six men on last night?

  799. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    I hear Gary Matthews doesn’t even play that much anymore…not that he is the answer.

  800. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    We have a poor scouting report on Markakis.

  801. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    “Are you perhaps Dominican or related to Melky and Cano in any way? ”

    Jesus, you’re bringing race into this now?

    Troll alert.

  802. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    “Ray,

    Are you perhaps Dominican or related to Melky and Cano in any way?

    Just curious.

    They play some of the stupidest baseball on this team and cost this team runs with their play and you defend them like they are Mays and Mantle on here when anyone criticizes them.”

    Actually G. Love I’m not Dominican nor am I related to Melky or Cano. As CB and SJ44 have already pointed out however it’s stupid to harp on Melky Cabrera when he is far from being the biggest problem on the Yankees.

    When I see people harping on bottom of the lineup hitters not hitting I think they are beyond stupid. Understand?

  803. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    Markakis would look mighty fine in pinstripes.

  804. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    “Melky is replaceable and should be.”

    Who are they going to replace him with?

  805. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    Damn, Huff hitting a lot of line drives. I hate how he lunges for pitches. Getting hard to sneak something by him.

  806. sunny615 July 30th, 2008 at 2:43 pm

    how often has joba thrown a first pitch strike this year as a starter?

  807. geO [Murderer's Row and Cano] July 30th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    G. Love (*coined the term Prospect Hugger)

    is prob. Puerto Rican

  808. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    I think CB hit it right in the nail

    Jetes bad year
    Bobby bad OBP % (unless he DH)
    #4 hitter is hitting .250 w/ RISP
    #5 hitter is .204 w/ RISP
    Robi well OBP % is never his strength

    The loss of Matsui hurt this offense since he was the #5 hitter most of this year.

  809. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    GARDNER is older than Melky ROB..

  810. Steve July 30th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    For someone not able to watch the game today, can you describe what Cano did in the field? How was he hot dogging, or whatever he did? Thanks…

  811. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:44 pm

    so close…

  812. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    I agree that Giambi is really the main culprit for the team’s offensive problems and that if we didn’t have Melky AND Molina in the lineup, Melky’s pitiful AB’s wouldn’t be as costly. Melky is just an easy scapegoat…not that he doesn’t deserve massive criticism, but he also doesn’t deserve to shoulder the whole blame. I think people (I’m guilty of it too) just fixate on him because he is pretty much the only one who can be traded, taken out of the lineup, etc. He’s not the biggest problem, but he’s one you can solve.

  813. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    “Markakis would look mighty fine in pinstripes.” I would druel. Ridiculous asking price though.

  814. SJ44 July 30th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    Bob,

    Replace him with whom? Brett Gardner? He was awful up here. Totally overmatched.

    Justin Christian? A career minor leaguer who isn’t really a good defensive CF.

    They don’t have any options to replace Melky right now. That’s my point.

    That’s why they poked around the Royals to see if they could pry DeJesus away from them.

    If the other guys in the lineup don’t get going, they will have trouble scoring runs. As they have for most of the season.

    I’d be completely on board with replacing Melky if there was an adequate replacement. There isn’t, which is why he is still in the lineup.

  815. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    a balk?

  816. Blargh July 30th, 2008 at 2:45 pm

    Hmm, go fig, the 5 runs scored already would be the second most runs scored by the Yankees while Joba is still in the game, during Jobamania’s tenure as a starter.

  817. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    this has been a crazy inning

  818. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    Brandon: Any more news on Manny?

  819. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    Balk?

  820. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:46 pm

    OMFG YOU GOTTA BE KIDDING ME NOT EVEN JETES GOT THAT CALL !

  821. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    BBB – I agree with that. But the main thing here is that when Giambi and Melky aren’t hitting, Giambi still has that presence and works the pitcher. Melky is an automatic 2-pitch out. This team is going to look pretty darn new next year with Melky and Giambi gone. And Moose/Pettitte might be gone as well.

  822. CB July 30th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    “Didn’t he leave six men on last night?”

    That’s what was so interesting in listening to the post game reaction to yesterday’s terrible loss.

    Giambi gets that hit at the end of the game and everyone forgets about what an awful game he had yesterday.

    People go crazy about the bad at bat Cano and Betemit have in the 9th inning because its the 9th inning.

    Giambi kills them all game – I mean kills them by squandering one opportunity after another to drive guys in. He’s the 5th hole hitter. He’s paid $21M to drive in runs.

    And he doesn’t.

    They lose by one run and it’s plastered on the guys who didn’t get the job done in the 9th inning rather than the guy who blew the most opportunities.

    It’s really surprises me to see how time and time again people are willing to give the 5th hole hitter making $21M a pass for terrible at bats in which he keeps hitting into the stupid shift, instead choosing to go crazy blaming the 8th hole hitter for not being good enough.

  823. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    “I hear Gary Matthews doesn’t even play that much anymore…not that he is the answer.”

    Right, he’s the answer. The guy making 6mil more than Melky who’s having a similar year to Melky at the plate who’s a worse CF than Melky. That makes ALOT of sense.

    G. Love, do I understand where I’m coming from now?

  824. NHYankee July 30th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    Nice backup on the play by Joba…. balk… whatever. …

    Joba seems to like alittle pressure

  825. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:47 pm

    “The loss of Matsui hurt this offense since he was the #5 hitter most of this year”

    He’s also probably the best clutch hitter on the team. Not having his situational hitting has really hurt us too. He almost always gets the runner in from 3rd with less than 2 outs, for example. I’m glad he is rehabbing and coming back, but wonder how useful he is going to be upon his return. Certainly worth a try if the medical staff thinks he’s ok to do it though.

  826. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    Again…I don’t think Melky is the scapegoat. As said above, there are other players who are not playing well, but who have track-records. Melky does not. I am not asking for 25HR 100RBIs. I’m asking for smart at-bats, working the count, doing the little things, because you ARE NOT the number 4 hitter. He doesn’t even do that.

  827. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:48 pm

    Brandon: Any more news on Manny?

    Nope still no text message. MY friend is trying to get in touch w/ some people.

  828. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Nice, Johnny..,could have been bad

  829. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    “….not that he is the answer.” As stated about Gary Matthews.

  830. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    SJ44:

    I totally agree with your break down of some issue’s..

  831. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    SJ44, I’m not sold on Gardner, but don’t you think at this point it would have been worth it to give him some more at bats? Sure he was overmatched, but given more time maybe he wouldn’t have been.

    Like I’ve said plenty of times, we already know what we are getting from Melky and it ain’t much. Try something different.

    What are you giving up by doing so?

  832. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    Joba still stuck on 99 strikeouts.

  833. pat July 30th, 2008 at 2:49 pm

    “It’s really surprises me to see how time and time again people are willing to give the 5th hole hitter making $21M a pass for terrible at bats in which he keeps hitting into the stupid shift, instead choosing to go crazy blaming the 8th hole hitter for not being good enough.”

    But Pete and the rest of the writers say Jason is a nice guy. :smile:

  834. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    Some one please give me Joba’s pitch count, I have the game channel..

  835. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    Brandon: Thanks. You’ll tell us if anything happens, I hope :)

  836. NHYankee July 30th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    I’ll add this about Giambi:

    The thing that really set me off is his stubborn refusal…. to keep hitting into that #!@@# shift!

    Early in the game last night… base hit would’ve driven in 2 runs and given the Yankees the lead….

    SS was wide open and Giambi hits a hard grounder right to B. Roberts.

    Unbelievable!!!! Why the hell couldn’t he hit the ball through the hole at SS?

    So arrogant thinking he’s going to hit the ball through the entire defense on the right side!!!

    Sickening!!!1

  837. Steve July 30th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    Now that the inning’s over, let me try this again: Can anyone describe what Cano did in the field that made him look so bad? Just curious since I can’t watch the game today. Thanks.

  838. Ian July 30th, 2008 at 2:50 pm

    Joba’s at 98 pitches… does he come out for the 7th or do they give the ball to Edwar?

  839. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    “G. Love, do I understand where I’m coming from now?”

    I hope you do.

  840. Steve July 30th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    Also, how fast has Joba’s fastball been today?

  841. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    CB you hit it right on the nail

    Jetes bad year
    Bobby bad OBP % (unless he DH)
    #4 hitter (Arod)is hitting .250 w/ RISP
    #5 hitter (Giambi)is .204 w/ RISP
    Robi well OBP % is never his strength

    The loss of Matsui hurt this offense since he was the #5 hitter most of season. A guy that can hit w/ RISP is suppose to be Nady but he can’t hit a pinata if he tried to right now.

  842. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    I’m thinking give Christian a real shot for 2 games. Bat him 9th, if he gets on Damon follows.
    Just at thought.

  843. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:51 pm

    PC = 98…looks like he’s coming out

  844. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Abreu on FIRE

  845. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    “BBB – I agree with that. But the main thing here is that when Giambi and Melky aren’t hitting, Giambi still has that presence and works the pitcher.”

    very true, he has not lost his eye. If he were in a slump where he wasn’t having long AB’s and wasn’t walking, I might think he was done. But as long as he can get on base I have to assume the hits will start falling in again at some point.

    In the meantime though, he is hurting more than helping in the 5-hole. At first I advocated Cano moving up there but he hasn’t been much better lately. Really hope Matsui comes back hitting so we can try him there again.

  846. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Also, how fast has Joba’s fastball been today?

    93-97 topped out at 99 MPH in the 5th inning

  847. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    Ian:

    Thanks..

  848. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 2:52 pm

    I would’ve sent him back out batter to batter next inning.

  849. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    All right. That’s it. Bobby Abreu full time DH petition, who’s starting it?

    :-P

  850. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    “Joba’s at 98 pitches… does he come out for the 7th or do they give the ball to Edwar?”

    I’m betting he comes out. Whether or not he stays the whole inning will depend on the results.

  851. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    Abreu is on fire…..

  852. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

    It’s amazing you put Abreu to DH and he becomes Barry

  853. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    Posada’s surgery successful, rehab starts in 2-3 weeks…

  854. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    they scoped it (like me :) )

  855. NHYankee July 30th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    You guys also have to think of not overusing Joba…. 98 pitches today…

    We need him for the long haul… hopefully in October.

  856. lol July 30th, 2008 at 2:54 pm

    “I’ll add this about Giambi:

    The thing that really set me off is his stubborn refusal…. to keep hitting into that #!@@# shift!

    Early in the game last night… base hit would’ve driven in 2 runs and given the Yankees the lead….

    SS was wide open and Giambi hits a hard grounder right to B. Roberts.

    Unbelievable!!!! Why the hell couldn’t he hit the ball through the hole at SS?

    So arrogant thinking he’s going to hit the ball through the entire defense on the right side!!!

    Sickening!!!1″

    Yes, Giambi hit it to Roberts on purpose! He’s so arrogant!!!

  857. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    Whenever Damon can play the field, it makes sense to put Nady in right.

  858. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:55 pm

    Were is Big Sexy he should be in the on deck circle..

  859. SJ44 July 30th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    Bob,

    You are giving up defense and AB’s to a guy who was overmatched here. He can’t hit. We can scream about Melky but he’s hitting .100 points higher than Gardner and is a better CF. Its not even close enough to say, “give it a try”.

    Its much more important for Damon, Jeter, Arod, Abreu, Giambi, Cano and Nady hit. If those guys can’t hit, I don’t care if Melky Cabrera hits .400 the rest of the way, they can’t win.

    Whomever said losing Matsui was huge is 100% correct. He is the best clutch hitter on the team and they haven’t been able to make up for his loss so far this year.

    Its moved Giambi up in the order and that hasn’t worked.

    If I was Girardi, I’d move Cano up to the 5th spot in the order. I know they (the Yankees) don’t like moving him up in the order because they feel he presses too much.

    But, the way I look at is, if you have invested 30 million on him, its time to give him more responsibility in the lineup. Its time.

    Who knows, perhaps it will help with his concentration issues.

    Either way, they really have to get Giambi out of the 5 hole in the order. IMO, that’s a much bigger issue than Melky’s poor bat in the lineup.

  860. G. Love (*coined the term Prospect Hugger) July 30th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    Ray–I understand where you’re coming from, but you’re especially sensitive to anyone here who criticizes Melky or Cano and quite frankly, they are both huge reasons why this team struggles.

    With the exception of Cano’s recent surge, the at bats by the two of them are some of the worst in baseball. They often get up with men on base and kill rallies.

    Giambi and Arod are guilty too, I’m not defending them, but to a lot of fans the fact that there is no visible progress in Melky’s game (and Cano to some extent) is frustrating since we all bought into the “play the kids” except they are not kids anymore. They should be progressing and they are not.

    As for the poster calling me racist for asking Ray, I was curious. Him and I never see eye to eye about these 2 players and I was wondering if it was a hometown loyalty since whenever they are criticized, Ray jumps in to defend them.

    Anyone who thinks Cano and Melky are the least of the Yankees problems is just shifting the blame away from them. Their low OBP hurts this lineup more than some of the players who struggle but can still get on base at a decent clip.

  861. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    what a pain in the ___ Scott is

  862. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 2:56 pm

    None too happy about a Mets dr. working on Jorge. :)

    Toronto have left a Yankee-esque 9 men on base.

  863. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Almost!

  864. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    “Markakis would look mighty fine in pinstripes.” I would druel. Ridiculous asking price though.”

    Very ridiculous. He’s under the O’s control for three seasons after this and w/ McPhail at the helm, I’d think extension talks will get going in earnest after this season. I’d guess he’s an Oriole for years to come. Same with the kid in center, who also looks like a player.

  865. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Posada’s surgery successful, rehab starts in 2-3 weeks…

    Good news. Best of luck to Jorge and I hope you are also doing alright Rishi

  866. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    “I’ll add this about Giambi:

    The thing that really set me off is his stubborn refusal…. to keep hitting into that #!@@# shift! ”

    Right on. Selfish, non team oriented AB’s. It has irked me so much this year seeing him beat the shift so many times and thinking that he could have been doing that for the past few seasons…but he doesn’t do it with any kind of regularity until a contract year, and even now he doesn’t always try to do it when we need it.

  867. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    AGAIN A ROD can’t move the runner on 2nd w/0 outs, UNBELIVEABLE

  868. bigjf July 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    Looks like he just beat the shift there, didn’t he?

  869. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    …Wow, go Yankees, illustrating Kay’s point :-P

  870. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:57 pm

    man – giambi like bunted that ball out there

  871. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    Giambi sucks

  872. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    ain’t this some bullsh… Alex scolds the ball, but Giambi hits it like a blind man swinging at a wiffle ball and gets a hit w/ RISP

  873. CB July 30th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    “I’m asking for smart at-bats, working the count, doing the little things, because you ARE NOT the number 4 hitter.”

    Jason Giambi takes some of the dumbest at bats I’ve ever seen any baseball player take.

    Men in scoring position – any hit will drive in a run. Does he try to do that?

    No instead he insists on pulling the ball into a defense in which there are three infielders on the first base side of the field.

    It was comical watching Brian Roberts field a ball in mid right field last night and throw Giambi out squandering runs while the entire 3rd base side of the field is empty.

    How does an at bat get “dumber” than that? How stubborn can a hitter be.

    He’s no longer a hitter that can beat the shift. He’s not David Ortiz 2007. But instead of adjusting he keeps trying to muscle the ball through the overcrowded side of the field.

    How are those “smart” at bats. They are awful – he’s killing the team.

    Yet for some reason I’ve rarely if ever heard anyone describe Giambi’s at bats as “dumb.”

    And I know they pitch Giambi inside to facilitate him hitting into the shift – but all he has to do is pull his hands in and go the other way.

    But he won’t – not even in situations when he can drive in the run.

    Look at what just happenned – he check swings and accidently hits it where the shift isn’t – and knocks in the run.

    But on his own – intentionally – he refuses to do that on a consistently.

    Yet its every other player’s fault when the offense struggles except the 5 hole hitters.

  874. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    Abreu should DH all of the time…also, a question….I thought Posada’s surgery was supposed to be more invasive than arthroscopic?

  875. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    sherry – he KILLED the ball…it just got caught

  876. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    There ya go Jason

  877. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:58 pm

    LMAO. Rodrriguez smokes one to the fall and it’s caught and Giambi checks his swing to bloop a hit. Who had the better at bat?

  878. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    …Giambi with legs!

  879. JB July 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    Joba’s numbers look good, but he’s got to become more efficient with his pitches or the bullpen is going to be shot come September and October. 98 pitches in 6 innings is too many.

  880. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    SJ44:

    What about giving Christian a shot.

    I agree with missing Hideki…………

  881. bphill July 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    ahhha giambi running to 3rd is greatt

  882. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    “All right. That’s it. Bobby Abreu full time DH petition, who’s starting it?”

    We the undersigned….

  883. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    ***smokes one to the wall***

  884. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    NongEyeJon – Kay and crew just said it was arthroscopic…

  885. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 2:59 pm

    I wonder if Giambi started batting from the right side how the opposing team would react. That would be a cool head game. Have him bat from the right side in batting practice and see how the coaches react lol

  886. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Giambi’s at-bats have been dumb lately and he shouldnt be your 5 hitter. He’s been expanding the strike zone, but even his OBP is still close to .400.

  887. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    No one’s mentioned that Nady also plays a little first base… could be useful in making the lineup flexible

  888. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Nady with a ground-rule doublt…man, took them long enough!!

  889. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Hey X, welcome to New York!

  890. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Holy cow, Giambi 1st to 3rd on Markakis’ arm?!?!? :0

  891. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    Has A Rod EVER produced in ANY clutch situation in his career? Wonder why he has not been a part of ANY championship team EVER. He makes me ill sometimes. (Most of the time). The guy isn’t clutch. He is Mr April.

  892. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 3:00 pm

    THIS SERIOUSLY IS SOME BULLSH… !!

  893. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    confidence runs. we needed this.

  894. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    Good job Nady!

  895. bphill July 30th, 2008 at 3:01 pm

    finally Nady is looking good. I like I like I like.

  896. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    NADY!!!! God that was hot. Just sayin. ;)

    *hums DMX*

  897. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    “Joba’s numbers look good, but he’s got to become more efficient with his pitches or the bullpen is going to be shot come September and October. 98 pitches in 6 innings is too many.”

    You do understand that this is his first (not even full) year as a starter in the majors right? You really expect him to improve his pitch counts by September? Hehehe

  898. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    X-man delivers………

  899. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    A Rod vs LA’s pitching….mismatch

  900. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 3:02 pm

    Rishi, thats what I heard them say, which is why I was surprised because with the amount of work he was supposed to have done, I didnt think they could just do it arthroscopically.

  901. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    “sherry – he KILLED the ball…it just got caught”

    That’s too difficult for some people who know nothing about baseball to see. They’ll probably take notice when A-Rod wins his second MVP award in a row this year. He’s quietly having one of his best seasons.

  902. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    CB: you have it right. And will not miss Giambi, when he walks

  903. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    X-man delivers………

  904. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    I’ve got my money on unassisted double play by melky

  905. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    “Has A Rod EVER produced in ANY clutch situation in his career? Wonder why he has not been a part of ANY championship team EVER. He makes me ill sometimes. (Most of the time). The guy isn’t clutch. He is Mr April.”

    he drove in the first 2 runs of the game dummy

  906. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 3:03 pm

    i have to remember to look at the gameday score before i catch up on some of the comments here…. i thought we were losing at first.

  907. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Melky up, the infield in, 2 runners in scoring position with less than 2 outs. Let’s see if he can do anything productive.

  908. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Nice Job Nady (finally). However, Yanks beating this pitcher from the O’s is comical. Wait till they see LA’s pitching……..

  909. MikeEff July 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    brandon—will you lay off nady now? PLEASE?

  910. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Well, I’ll say this for the X man…only two hits, but they have been two good ones.

  911. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    SJ44, Gardner had all of 59 ABs in the majors.

    Hardly enough time to declare that he can’t hit ML pitching.

    I don’t expect him to be overwhelming, but I have a feeling given time he’s better than a .153 hitter. Not to mention he gives you a baserunning edge over Melky.

    The defense angle is over rated IMO. Gardner would be more than adequate there.

  912. Ian July 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    lets see if Melky kills the rally right here…

  913. Real World July 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    I’ve never understood why hitters don’t take advantage of the overshift more. A simple slap of the ball to the left side will not only result in a hit 80% of the time, but it would force teams to play the hitter more honestly in the future.

  914. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 3:04 pm

    Wow…an inflation of Melky’s ego there.

  915. pat July 30th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Sherry

    There’s a T-ball league waiting for you teach them all about baseball.

  916. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    nice walk, Melky

  917. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Notice how they threw Melky two garbage pitches off the plate to see if he’d chase then walked him. Makes you wonder if the scouting report is to just throw him balls all day long?

  918. Tseng July 30th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Intentionally walking Melky? Really?

  919. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    Fred, what is A Rod batting this year w/RISP? I rest my case. Yanks get Washburn yet? They need another pitcher to be the 3rd best team in the AL this year behind LA and Boston.

  920. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:05 pm

    “However, Yanks beating this pitcher from the O’s is comical. Wait till they see LA’s pitching……..”

    Burress? He used to give us so much grief. I know it’s nowhere near what is in store for us facing Anaheim, but I’m thrilled to see them put up a few runs on him anyday.

  921. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    “Wow…an inflation of Melky’s ego there.”

    Hah, that’s what I was thinking. I’m afraid to see his next at bat after he gets intentionally walked. He probably thinks he’s Micky Mantle right now.

  922. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    does Nady really have DMX as his music when he walks to the plate?

  923. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    I guess if you only watch the game on gameday or via box score you really don’t understand what’s going on

  924. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Pirates-Rays trade for Bay seems possible. Pirates are after Brignac, Davis and Nieman. Sounds like Rays dont want to give up Wade Davis.

  925. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Dear Toronto,

    Please score some runs.

    Love,
    numerous Yankee fans

  926. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 3:06 pm

    Anybody want to pinch hit Betemit for Molina?

    (i kid, i kid!) :)

  927. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    sherry are you watching the game ? or are you at work watching on gameday ?

  928. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Ok Jose……..there loaded………

  929. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    Nady is just a stats compiler.

  930. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    I’m still laughing over IBB’ing Melky. He didn’t show it here but Molina > Melky with men on.

  931. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    sherry, just stop, you’re coming off as one of the all time dumb people here.

    A-Rods ABs with RISP this year are a TINY sample size.

    Career:
    batting average: .307
    with RISP: .304

    See now?

  932. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    sherry = troll
    please don’t feed the trolls

  933. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    brandon—will you lay off nady now? PLEASE?

    When he stays consistant I will. Other than that he crushed that double.

  934. The Man of X July 30th, 2008 at 3:08 pm

    http://theblogofchampions.com/?p=159

  935. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    “Fred, what is A Rod batting this year w/RISP? I rest my case.”

    you know nothing about baseball. and on top of that you arent even making logical complaints about todays game.

    yanks down 1-0 Arod drives in 2 runs

    yanks up 2-5 Arod rips the ball on a good at bat and gets an out

    he was clutch for the day. shut up.

  936. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    If Tampa would just lose, and Halo’s take one more from the sox.. This wouldn’t be a wasted series.

  937. Mo July 30th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    if Molina could hit 250 he’d be great.

  938. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:09 pm

    Saucy: I haven’t yet been able to determine whether Nady uses “X Gonna Give it to Ya” or not, but if he doesn’t, I will have to see if Pete can get a message to him, cause he needs to!

  939. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    Damon takes another walk!

  940. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    The only case “Sherry” has is the fat one that he/she flopped down on in front of the computer.

  941. Elvis July 30th, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    I’m not sure why everyone is harping on Nady. Give him a chance. It’s been 5 games. If he’s struggling in September, then criticize him. But he had great numbers in Pittsburgh, and he should be given a shot. He’s obviously a good player. So give him a chance.

  942. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    I am still amused the Yankees have more runs than hits.

  943. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    “sherry = troll
    please don’t feed the trolls”

    How do you know?

    This idiot Stuart who’s a Yankee fan was aruging the same thing last night.

    You’d be surprised how many dumb Yankee fans there actually is.

  944. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    Niiice.

    Ok Derek feel free to GIDP now. We have the lead.

  945. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:11 pm

    … not that he could ground into a double play because there are already two outs …

  946. pat July 30th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    First Papelbon took umbrage with the back page of the Daily News and now the O’s are on board.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....ily_n.html

  947. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    Some suggestions that the Bay to the Rays stuff is gathering some steam. Brignac and either Hellickson or Neimann plus some B listers.

  948. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

    when X was w/ the Mets he came out to rapper Xzibit’s “X” yeah my ex. was a Mets fan.

  949. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    another run in – wild pitch or passed ball…whatever

  950. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

    I lump fans who love to complain into the same bunch as trolls. Don’t they pretty much do the same thing? Whine, whine, whine about everything?

  951. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Dave Trembley is a just hair more of a dolt than Girardi…..walking Melky ?….DERRRRRRRRR !

  952. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Tampa, still 3-2 going to the 9th……..

  953. DMan July 30th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Wow, walking Melky was just… I have no words, I’m wordless.

  954. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    Damn. How often has Jeter struck out 3x in a game this year.

  955. Ian July 30th, 2008 at 3:14 pm

    OK, long inning over, my bet is that Joba is done for the day.

  956. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    Nice job by Jeter today…..three Ks ?….How about one more before it is over ? DANG ! ;-(

  957. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    “when X was w/ the Mets he came out to rapper Xzibit’s “X” yeah my ex. was a Mets fan”

    lot of x’s

  958. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    Brandon: that’s a good pick too, gotta love X to the Z. But he (Xzibit) is a Cali. guy isn’t he? Time to rep NY now! :)

  959. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 3:15 pm

    I missed John Sterling’s call of Nady’s homerun – does anybody know what inane phrase he used to describe it?

    Thanks!

  960. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    Jeter couldn’t concentrate on that at bat.

    He kept seeing Melky on base and wondering how the heck that happened.

  961. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    Sj stop with the logic about CF.. They need to trade for carlos beltran, trade karstens locker, one of there 18 yr old latins signings, and Nick Green.

    These people do not understand you cannot have a great player at every position and this team as constructed should still be very good if they get 1 more SP……

  962. DMan July 30th, 2008 at 3:16 pm

    Bob(The Original)-

    Haha exactly!

  963. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    “Jeff Wilson of the Fort Worth Star-Telegram has Rangers rumors for us today. Wilson sums up the suitors for catcher Gerald Laird: Yankees, Reds, Marlins, and Brewers. The Giants could also jump in if they trade Bengie Molina. Wilson heard that the Rangers are not shopping Laird, though. The Rangers inquired on three pitchers recently: Zack Greinke of the Royals, Boof Bonser of the Twins, and Nick Masset of the White Sox. Greinke would be near-impossible to pry loose, though Chris Davis would be an interesting offer”

  964. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    ….ONE pitch and they’re gonna toss him?

  965. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    ARE YOU KIDDING ME!!!!!!!! Thrown out of the freaking game on 1 pitch

  966. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 3:17 pm

    WTF ? Are you kidding me … but it looked like Edwar did that on purpose.

  967. Chaz July 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    WHAT?!?!?!

  968. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    NICE…did Edwar just throw up and in at MILLAH ??? :-)

  969. Mo July 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    can the jays best the rays here?

  970. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    Dammit Edwar!

    Actually hit the clown! lol

  971. Blargh July 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    Well, if we count those 4 more runs as while Joba is still pitching (or at least still credible for the win), that would make 9…which would be the highest during Jobamania’s tenure as a starter (in the 10-0 against Pittsburgh, 8 were scored while Joba was still pitching)

  972. nick July 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    Brandon, I don’t get your username….

    First off, why would you happily post negative things like that about the Yankees best players? I don’t understand how it makes you feel.

    And also, BTW, A Rod is 22 of his last 75 with RISP — That’s .293 … Some Yankees fans are real dimwits.

  973. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    toss who? what? why?

  974. DMan July 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    Um… Right…

  975. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 3:18 pm

    for the record, i’m not a fan of DMX, but didn’t even think of the whole ‘X’ thing. I guess Nady gets a pass then…

  976. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    Our guys get run if they come anywhere near a guy!

  977. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    GMAB, you do not bring in Edwar for something like that you ding dongs…a little hypersensitivity. How about a warning or something

  978. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:19 pm

    gee, I wonder if yesterday’s tossing of THEIR pitcher after he actually HIT A-Rod had anything to do with this ejection ?…Hmmmm…I wonder….

  979. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    I didn’t think it was intentional at first, but Edwar’s lack of reaction kinda gave him up.

  980. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:20 pm

    Edwar seemed rather…expectant that that’s exactly what would happen.

    I say get Robertson in. Start re-building his confidence after that shellacking Monday.

  981. Wander July 30th, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    This is insane. What the hell is this umpire crew doing?

  982. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    What is the “on field delay” is there a fight ? is Joe going bonkers ? fill me in !!! (please)

  983. Vanessa - F4TD July 30th, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    The umps are having the worst year they can possibly have this season.

  984. cano he didnt July 30th, 2008 at 3:21 pm

    wow

  985. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Pitchers get thrown out with no warning if the umps believe he threw at the batter with intent, right? Did Edwar look like he was targeting Millar? And where exactly did he hit Millar?

  986. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Um, if they wanted to do that, why not let Joba go out there for one more batter and do it?

  987. caitlin July 30th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    I love the Yankee double standard…they get thrown out for NOT hitting guys. But did Hansen go anywhere when he hit A-Rod…of course not. Pathetic.

  988. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 3:22 pm

    Wow @ Edwar.

    Why do these guys want to beef with the O’s? Just beat them on the field.

  989. Glenn July 30th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Brandon is still bitter they got Nady and not Keppinger.

  990. PreteFunkEra July 30th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Could someone define what happend, I’m at work. Thanks.

  991. minnesota yankee fan July 30th, 2008 at 3:23 pm

    Umps kinda jumpy lately?!

  992. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Edwar definitely did that on purpose, no reaction afterwards, he didn’t lick his hands or look at it, or look down like he always does when he throws the ball away. Edwar did that to send a message, but if a Yankee gets hit next expect a brawl.

  993. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    The Yankees are the only team in all of baseball that get the same punishment for brushing a guy back that other teams do for actually hitting a guy in obvious retaliation after said guy (A-Rod in this case) had hit him hard all night. F these umps! If Edwar gets suspended I’m calling the ACLU. lol.

  994. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    Well, I actually think that Edwar was throwing at him. He seemed so-nonchalant about what happened. I mean, we haven’t seen Edwar blow up, but this may have been a guy just deciding to protect his teammate.

    Good move here with Robertson.

  995. Ian July 30th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    i’m not watching the game… can someone fill in on whats going on now? Edwar got tossed, now what?

  996. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    umpires are on a power trip these days. what happened to our game?

  997. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 3:24 pm

    A-rod got hit and there was only a warning….

  998. Anthony July 30th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Edwar not reacting doesn’t mean anything, pitchers never react really. Even if it wasn’t intentional, you want the batter to think that it might have been.

  999. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    PreteFunkEra, Edwar threw a ball over Millar’s head and got tossed right away, first pitch.

  1000. Jose July 30th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    edwar just threw at millar up and in. for those of you have missed it.

  1001. Michael Kay's Worst Nightmare July 30th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Edwar never reacts to anything though, I kinda feel like that was a mistake. Either that or he didn’t feel like pitching today.

  1002. Vanessa - F4TD July 30th, 2008 at 3:25 pm

    Edwar didn’t even hit him. Even if he was aiming at his head, it was off. There wasn’t really need for retaliation. Last night’s throw at A-Rod didn’t seem intentional to me, and it was only made a big deal of because Cabrera got thrown out with no warning.

  1003. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Brandon is still bitter they got Nady and not Keppinger.

    No I’m pissed we traded Tabata for Nady get it right chump. As for Keppinger you damn right I want him on that Yankees bench.

  1004. Original V July 30th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Why throw him out?

  1005. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    A-rod got hit and there was just a warning yesterday..?????

  1006. pat July 30th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Edwar threw over Millar’s head and got tossed after only throwing 1 pitch.

  1007. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    Dude, but Robertson needs to start getting people out now

  1008. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:26 pm

    C’mon David. You are a major league quality setup man. Pitch like one.

  1009. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    c’mon David, get back on track

  1010. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    What!?! Edwar didn’t even hit Millar and they tossed him? Jeez, the Yankees get the worst farkin umpires.

  1011. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    Take A-Rod out of the game before his next AB.

  1012. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    So do we think Edwar was intentional?

  1013. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    OK – can they stop talking about it now?

  1014. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 3:27 pm

    little late, to hit Millar. After he’s owned them for 10 AB’s, and cost them two games

  1015. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    The Yankee pitchers have to learn when they are trying to hit someone to actually hit them. Too much getting tossed and suspended without even hitting people. At least make it count.

  1016. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    “umpires are on a power trip these days. what happened to our game?”

    Umpires were instructed by MLB only to act if the Yankees throw at batters. At least that’s what it seems like.

  1017. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    “Well, I actually think that Edwar was throwing at him.”

    Maybe, but he didn’t even hit him! How come other teams are allowed to brush guys back and we aren’t?

  1018. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Sorry he did get ejected, poor A-rod he is always the target..

  1019. The Monk July 30th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    Joba ERA as a starter = 2.23.

    Joba HR allowed as a starter = 2 in 60.2 IP — that’s a CMW rate without being anywhere near CMW’s groundball ratio.

    Imagine how much better the team would be if he remained in the bullpen . . . or not.

  1020. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 3:28 pm

    I’m sure that the pitch was supposed to be on the inside, but, that wasn’t the intended location. It’s a payback by the umpires for the unwarranted ejection last night,

  1021. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    1 out left and Tampa will win……………………

  1022. kill.schill(ing) July 30th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Supposedly, the Rays and Pirates are entrenched in discussions for Jason Bay.

    Please Baseball Gods scuttle this one.

  1023. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    I thought guys were supposed to get kicked out after hitting guys, not almost hitting guys. This was a bad ejection. I could see if it happened twice like Joba to Youkilis last year, but to throw him out for throwing a ball 3 feet over his head is stupid.

  1024. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    I think the ball just slipped since its really hot today and his hands must had been sweaty.

  1025. PreteFunkEra July 30th, 2008 at 3:29 pm

    Thanks Dfox

  1026. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    “So do we think Edwar was intentional?”

    Does it matter? I do wish if they were going to hit the guy, they actually DID hit the guy.

  1027. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    “Umpires were instructed by MLB only to act if the Yankees throw at batters. At least that’s what it seems like.”

    Yep, bitter Bob Watson still going out of his way to be a hard on with respect to the Yankees. I would get banned from this board if I elaborated any further on what I think of that dirtbag and his “discipline.”

  1028. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    c’mon Rios – do it for the new kid!

  1029. trisha - Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth! July 30th, 2008 at 3:30 pm

    I just tuned into the game but – EXCUSE ME???? The Yankees gave up 2 runs????? And only got 9 runs???????????

    Hey I say we need to get rid of the entire team and start over again. This team will NEVER be there in October!

    :lol:

    (Please don’t tell me that anyone here had anything to bitch about during this game. Just please tell me that. Even if it’s a lie, lie to me.)

    :D

  1030. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    I love Paul. He’s a riot. Even in his media rants.

  1031. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    Nice to see D-Rob dealing again after the hiccup!

  1032. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:31 pm

    oh, Trisha – you have no idea

  1033. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    “It’s a payback by the umpires for the unwarranted ejection last night,”

    So they’re paying us back for their bad decision last night (which actually hurt the Yankees, Cabrera was about to implode)? Uuuugh, gotta love that power tripping…

  1034. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    Tampa won.

  1035. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    “Please don’t tell me that anyone here had anything to bitch about during this game. Just please tell me that. Even if it’s a lie, lie to me.”

    And how long have you been reading this blog and using these boards? :P

  1036. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    We are seeing some quality curveballs from Robertson today. Combined with his cutter, that’s a great combination.

  1037. DMan July 30th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    “UPDATE, 3:26 p.m.: Did you see you argued the least? Edwar. He knew exactly what he did and what was going to happen.

    It’s only a matter of time the Yankees have a brawl with somebody. It’ll be this team or the Red Sox. The Yankees are clearly fixated on this stuff now. Somebody will throw up and in on a hitter in a foul mood and it’ll be go time.”

    Well, it’s either this or the Yankees spend another 6 years or so getting hit at will.

    Remember when Pedro threw high and inside to Matsui in 2004? He was never the same in that series. And no Yankee pitcher did anything about it.

    Yes throwing at the head is very dangerous and they should be aiming way lower, but I do like that the Yankees aren’t afraid to plunk a batter now.

  1038. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    Brandon, what is behind your Jose Tabata man crush? Its kind of scary.

  1039. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    What do you think Millar is saying out there?

  1040. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    Great, great, great rebound inning for David Robertson.

    This guy is really something.

  1041. Timothy Clougher July 30th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    well Tampa wins……………

  1042. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    nice come back for D-Rob.

  1043. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 3:33 pm

    mmmm…that was nice. Sexson in don’t throw at him :lol:

  1044. Wangawa July 30th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Thanks a lot, Toronto

  1045. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 3:34 pm

    Last thing this team needs is a brawl.

    Half these old men would be on the DL the next day.

  1046. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    D-Rob! Way to show some character, kiddo!

  1047. Vanessa - F4TD July 30th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    Robertson struck out the side. Would it be asking too much if he could’ve done that on monday?

  1048. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:35 pm

    So, with this we’ll have, what, won 9 of 12 coming out of the All-Star break? Only a .750 winning percentage! That’s unacceptable! Fire Cashman! Fire Girardi!

  1049. Peter Abraham July 30th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    Just so you guys know, the rule is an umpire can eject a pitcher at any time, warnings or not, for intentionally throwing at a hitter. It has nothing to do with whether he hits him or not.

    Given what happened last night and Girardi’s angry words, it’s pretty obvious it was intentional. The umpire isn’t stupid.

    The only question now is whether Baltimore drills Alex again and the teams fight. It’s 50-50 at this point.

  1050. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:36 pm

    “Robertson struck out the side. Would it be asking too much if he could’ve done that on monday?”

    Rookie?

  1051. Rishi July 30th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    oh crap – I got so caught up in the game i’m late for pt – back after 5…

  1052. SJ44 July 30th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Folks really, talk the pinstripe glasses off. Edwar threw at him and it was dumb. It really was.

    9-2 game, bullpen is gassed, the Angels coming up, what’s the point? It was intentional and it was dumb.

    If you want to move him off the plate, fine. At his head in a 9-2 game? Sorry, that’s just stupid.

    Even dumber if he ends up getting suspended because he’s been pitching very well.

    Its one thing to play the game tough. Its another to play it right and Edwar played it VERY wrong there.

  1053. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 3:37 pm

    Id argue that throwing at the head is not as dangerous as some to think. Those helmets work pretty good these days. Its not like we’re in 1948. Plus, its the easiest pitch to get out of the way off because its easy to see.

  1054. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    OK….so he threw at him, so WHAT ?…did he hit him ?…NO !….What the hell is this double standard that only applies to the Yankees ? The umpires THINK our pitcher is throwing at someone, but the pitch does NOT hit the batter, and our guy is ejected. The other team DOES hit our player, and way more often than not, the umpires THINK it was an accident…so NO EJECTION…..YANKEE HATERS, including all other fans, umpires, etc…need to slither back under their rocks and expire ! :-(

  1055. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    Pete pointed this out earlier. Reason Yanks aren’t going anywhere is their combined record against stellar teams such as KC, Cincy, Pitt, O’s and most of them were at home. I am not excited. The pitcher who started against the O’s was not like an ace. Next 4 games will be brutal against LA’s pitching.

  1056. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    Like I said.

    Petition: bobby Abreu full time DH.

    Who’s signing?

  1057. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:38 pm

    I believe I said that if the Yankees were to catch fire with the bats, a resurgence by Bobby Abreu would be at the heart of it.

  1058. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Like I said, if you’re aiming at the guy, hit him. If you’re going to get tossed, might as well make it count.

  1059. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    $20 A-rod get’s hit right here.

  1060. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    “The only question now is whether Baltimore drills Alex again and the teams fight. It’s 50-50 at this point.”

    How can you say theres a 50% shot at a brawl? What kinds of variables go into that calculation?

  1061. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Pete thats the point.

    Throwing inside to a batter isnt an exact science, and alot of pitchers are bad at it. Take Edwar for example, he may have only tried to body shot him and it got away from him.

    Other teams are on notice that they now take that risk with their players of getting seriously injured if they intentionally pitch in to the Yankees because we WILL retaliate. And maybe it wont be a perfect retaliation. Maybe someone could get hurt. So maybe everyone stops pitching in to the Yankees and starting this nonsense.
    Sorry but the rest of baseball had this coming after the Torre era.

  1062. pat July 30th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Bobay!!! Meaningless! :smile:

  1063. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 3:39 pm

    Abreu is officially red hot.

    Pete, until the Yanks actually hit someone, perceived intentions mean nothing.

  1064. Yankeefanfoev13 July 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    abreuuuuuuuuuuuuuu!!!!!!!!!!

  1065. pat July 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    Alex!!!!! Meaningless! :smile:

  1066. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    Wait, so when do the MVP chants start? Pretty soon I would think.

  1067. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    Back to back!

  1068. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    Go ahead…throw one at A-Rod, so we can punch all of your teeth down your throats !

  1069. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    “It’s only a matter of time the Yankees have a brawl with somebody. It’ll be this team or the Red Sox. The Yankees are clearly fixated on this stuff now.”

    Oh I absolutely cannot wait till they throw down. They’re lucky I’m not on the team, I’d be the biggest instigator. But…the Yanks are fixated on this stuff now? Fixated? Really? Or just finally stepping up and defending themselves.

    The funny part is teams continue to use our batters as target practice despite the fact that the Yankees have made it abundantly clear they’ll no longer take that hogwash lying down. So clearly they have to fight if they want to get their point across. Farnsworth is ready to stomp some punks!!! I bet even Edwar wants to throw down and don’t underestimate his scrappiness!

    These dirty birds can bring it. Let them get their butts kicked.

  1070. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    way to go, alex. It may be the difference in this game.

  1071. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 3:40 pm

    ARod!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1072. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Baltimore would’ve been better off hitting him…

  1073. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Eh, two quick outs, two quick bombs? Think Sexy gets drilled?

  1074. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    BBB, that’s no different than the make-up calls on balls and strikes or close calls on the bases. Umpires do it all the time. Not much difference with the hit batters from game to game in a series. It would stop somewhat if the umps would warn the managers after the first time, and then issue warnings before the next game.

  1075. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Does this make it his 540th meaningless homerun?

    People take A-Rod for granted and it is incredibly stupid. We are seeing the best slugger we will ever see.

  1076. trisha - Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth! July 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Oh gang. How I hoped. :(

    Okay, then let me add to the “reality”.

    That home run only went over the sign????? It didn’t go out of the park???? ABREU SUCKS!!!

    And here’s another one:

    LEAVE IT TO AROD TO PILE ON. Wah wah wah. Wah wah wah.

    (Am I doing good???)

    :)

  1077. CB July 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    “Supposedly, the Rays and Pirates are entrenched in discussions for Jason Bay.

    Please Baseball Gods scuttle this one.”

    Have you seen the names involved? If the Bucs can actually get Davis, Brignac and Hellickson from Tampa that would be a coup. Even Brignac, Hellickson and Jeff Niemann would be a good return.

    Hellickson has had an enormous break out year this year to become one of the best pitching prospects in the game. He has a 118:10 K to BB ration this year. 118:10.

    Brignac is the best shortstop prospect in the game besides Tim Beckham.

    Wade Davis has front of the rotation stuff. He’s had a mediocre year but coming into the season he was a top 15 prospect.

    Brignac, Hellickson, and Davis are all much better prospects now than Jose Tabata.

    If the Rays have to give up that much talent for Bay it would be a huge deal for the Bucs.

    And these discussions make the Yankees trade look even better.

    They gave up nowhere near the talent that Tampa might and they got Nady and Marte.

    That trade is a much, much better value than the one Tampa may make for Bay alone.

    Bay is a much better player in Nady but a deal like Brignac, Hellickson and Davis would be like the yankees trading Hughes, Jackson, and Melancon.

    The Nady and Marte deal was terrific. Much more sensible than giving up the kind of talent the Bucs are asking for for Bay. Much better deal.

    Its good to see the team get away from the mentality of needing an all star at every position and overpaying for it – whether that’s money or talent.

  1078. YankeeJosh July 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    Peter,

    How does that make any sense though? Girardi compains about the O’s throwing up near the head so has his pitcher throw one that high? It doesn’t make sense. Also, wouldn’t you send a pitcher other than Edwar to do that? Maybe Farnsworth? And if you wanted retribution, wouldn’t it be better to do it with two outs instead of at the start of the inning? The evidence doesn’t add up to me. Unless one of them admits it, I believe the ball just slipped out of Edwar’s hand.

  1079. geO [Murderer's Row and Cano] July 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm

    anyone notice little tension when A-Rod is near Jeter?

    he has like this kind of angry look

  1080. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    Another A-bomb from A-Rod. I guess he’s not getting hit today.

  1081. Bryan (Yankees fan) July 30th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    Feast or famine

    Less than 2 runs tomorrow

  1082. Whiff (Cano's bat) July 30th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    I am all for throwing at batters.

    Get them off the plate because the Dumps aren’t going to help you. But more so, as a pitcher, you need to maintain the upper hand. Too many of these pansies get up there, get comfortable, wear their football uniform and then pull a Manny and become a spectator when they hit a HR or hot dog it like Reyes when they get a stupid hit.

    I say drill them. Drill them good. But stay away from their head.

    Hands, middle of the back, thigh, shin in that order

  1083. Vanessa - F4TD July 30th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    3-3, 2 homers… you got my signature.

  1084. M. July 30th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    It’s funny how quick everyone is to jump on Jeter, but how many times has he come through for us?

    Who would you rather have playing in his position?

  1085. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    Fernando doesn’t have anything right now.

    What’s with the music? I love it, but who’s it for?

  1086. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    Okay, when even Sexson is slapping hits to left field, you know you’ve got a pitcher’s number.

  1087. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:42 pm

    who said double digits ?
    hmmm
    who said 12-15 runs ?
    hmmm
    :-)

  1088. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Pena doesn’t even come up to Sexson’s collar bone – lol.

  1089. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    LMAO at these crab eating pansies thinking they made some kind of a point and then immediately surrendering back to back dingers. EPIC FAIL you losers!!!

  1090. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    The crowd gives Sexson a surprising pop.

  1091. Jack Knight July 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    I can’t believe A-Rod hit a deep ball to center field with an 8 run lead. that’s so uncharacteristic.

  1092. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Did we send Ponson to the O’s?

  1093. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    I am telling you….there is gonna be a fight today !

  1094. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Oh my Gawd…Sexson got a hit off a righty. someone call the papers.

  1095. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    “Bryan (Yankees fan)”

    That you have to specify it makes me doubtful.

  1096. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    Where’s the moron who bet 100 bucks the O’s would win?

  1097. Andrew July 30th, 2008 at 3:43 pm

    11 runs today, probably score 3 or fewer tomorrow night.

  1098. Yanks July 30th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    Yanks have a perfect team for a brawl this year…

    Farnsworth – body slam professional
    Sexson – 6’7″ and ready to pound on people
    Giambi – gotta let the roid rage out sometime
    Ponson – probably drunk on his off day so he’ll throw a few haymakers

    even Girardi is still young enough to go a few rounds

  1099. Whiff (Cano's bat) July 30th, 2008 at 3:44 pm

    trisha – Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth!
    July 30th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
    Oh gang. How I hoped.
    Okay, then let me add to the “reality”.
    That home run only went over the sign????? It didn’t go out of the park???? ABREU SUCKS!!!
    And here’s another one:
    LEAVE IT TO AROD TO PILE ON. Wah wah wah. Wah wah wah.
    (Am I doing good???)

    Is it open mic night at the improv?

  1100. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    So, this isn’t Alberto Castillo the catcher, right?

  1101. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    I’m down in Virginia (hence the name) and am watching the Orioles broadcast. Earlier, they were talking about how A-Rod can’t get a break from Yankees fans and that they consider every single one of his RBIs or HRs as meaningless. Basically they were saying how ridiculous it was. It’s so true…and so sad.

  1102. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Does this make it his 540th meaningless homerun?

    Nope. Double checked this and only 519 fall into the meaningless category. (;

  1103. pat July 30th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    “anyone notice little tension when A-Rod is near Jeter?”

    They didn’t look real tense last inning kidding around in the dugout.

  1104. Doris From Rego Park July 30th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    Pete-
    Why is it a bad thing that are “fixated” on retaliation now? They went 10+ years under Torre refusing to retaliate

  1105. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    alex is hot !!!! So is abreu!!!! But we gotta bench melky!

  1106. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 3:45 pm

    “11 runs today, probably score 3 or fewer tomorrow night.”

    That’s my worry. Whenever we have these big offensive outbursts, we end up with nothing the next game.

  1107. kill.schill(ing) July 30th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Just in case any of you wondered, here are Washburn’s stats against the Angels starting line-up. I post not because the Yankees have, or I’m convinced they should, deal for him, but it’s certainly something I hope they consider.

    Washburn pitches on Friday whether for Seattle or another team.

    http://www.baseball-reference......erbyb=Name

  1108. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Too little, too late for the Yanks today. They needed minimum to win two against the O’s if not swept them. This win doesn’t excite me. Yanks will be measured the next 4 games against the best team in the AL.

  1109. george July 30th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Ramirez was definitely throwing a brushback pitch. not pitching to that part of the zone’s why Millar’s killing them this year. whether he meant to throw it at Millar’s head or just meant to brush him back…well, it’s silly to just arbitrarily assume that.

    i love Pete’s “reasoning” that he must’ve been aiming at his head ‘cuz he had only 3 walks in 13 innings. if Edwar has such perfect control of every pitch, then why isn’t that 0 walks?

  1110. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Jason Bay is way overrated anyway. If Tampa wants to give up way more for him alone than we gave for Nady and Marte, be my guest.

  1111. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    I don’t care about the score, we need to PRACTICE patience at the plate ALWAYS…especially our 5-9 hitters…Cano…you owe us 50 laps around the field after the game, son ! :-)

  1112. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:46 pm

    Xavier Nady is unimpressed by your garden variety left-handers.

  1113. Vanessa - F4TD July 30th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    Nady has two doubles. Abreu has two home runs.
    Just keep Nady in right for a couple of days.

  1114. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    Here’s a question – I thought that when you switched leagues, you had to start all over in terms of average. Why do they keep reporting the X-Man’s average that he had in PIT?

  1115. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    Evey single hit that Nady has had as a Yankee has plated at least one run.

    He’s making the hits count.

    I’m down with that.

  1116. Yankeefanfoev13 July 30th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    The X factor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1117. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 3:47 pm

    X GON GIVE IT TO YA

  1118. FergsKU July 30th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    That pitch to Arod last night was pretty high Pete….

  1119. kd July 30th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    nady seems a little more comfortable in pinstripes. maybe he just needs to play mad. arod should push him before every game

  1120. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    Gawd, people are so friggin’ negative.

  1121. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    the best part of this game is nady finally getting a few hits.

    maybe he can start feeling good and actually be valuable.

    if he can provide some offense in the bottom of the order, i think this offense will be fine.

  1122. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 3:48 pm

    EricVA
    July 30th, 2008 at 3:45 pm
    I’m down in Virginia (hence the name) and am watching the Orioles broadcast. Earlier, they were talking about how A-Rod can’t get a break from Yankees fans and that they consider every single one of his RBIs or HRs as meaningless. Basically they were saying how ridiculous it was. It’s so true…and so sad.

    He will never get a break from these fans even after a few rings because by then jeter will have much more then him… or he would only hit grand slams it the 1st inning of the WS….. yada yada yada

  1123. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    “Xavier Nady is unimpressed by your garden variety left-handers.”

    This is the most I’ve smiled about the Yankees in a week.

  1124. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    So doesn’t Manny have to be traded in like the next 10 minutes or not at all today?

  1125. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    nice to see nady starting to hit a little!

  1126. Russell NY July 30th, 2008 at 3:49 pm

    Then the black hole including Melky Cabrera continues to suck.

  1127. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    Jeeze, is it “Aggressive Moron” day at the Stadium?

  1128. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    CB:

    According to all reports I’ve seen, Davis is off the table. Brignac (somewhat expendable with Beckham), either Hellickson or Neimann, and a couple B-listers seems to be where this is at.

  1129. Paul July 30th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    “until the Yanks actually hit someone, perceived intentions mean nothing.”

    wrong wrong wrong….and the guy who got tossed is proof

  1130. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 3:50 pm

    now why isnt there pitcher get tossed????!!!!!!!!!! bias!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  1131. Steve July 30th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    It always worries me in these long blow out games that Molina stays in there and isn’t replaced by Moeller.

  1132. Whiff (Cano's bat) July 30th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    “11 runs today, probably score 3 or fewer tomorrow night.”
    That’s my worry. Whenever we have these big offensive outbursts, we end up with nothing the next game

    normally true but in the case of tomorrow’s game it would have NOTHING to do with playing the Angels would it. They are a last place team with mediocre pitching.

  1133. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    Pad those stats boys!

  1134. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    I have to say, I’ve been more impressed with Christian than Gardner…but that’s just me.

  1135. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:51 pm

    “It would stop somewhat if the umps would warn the managers after the first time, and then issue warnings before the next game.”

    If that would help any, I wish they would start doing it regularly. Actually I remember umps doing that before with us and the Red Sox and it worked out fine, there was no beef on those nights. But I just hate the idea that teams have to pay the price for umpires overreacting the night before or whatever.

    And in general, sorry everyone to get all riled up about this, but I am extremely protective of Edwar! It’s almost like I’m his mother or something, I just want to take him home and hug him and cook him lasagna and stuff, lol.

    Meanwhile….but it’s ok for Molina to get hit immediately thereafter and their pitcher doesn’t get tossed?! W…T….F!!!!!!!!

  1136. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    Okay, so they are allowed to hit Molina and not get kicked out of the game? When the hell is Cashman going to file a grievance with MLB? This is beyond ridiculous!!! Can’t the players union complain about this crap?

  1137. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    Girardi wants to go home.

    Buttemit in.

  1138. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    we are pounding the baseball today!!!

  1139. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 3:52 pm

    “Farnsworth – body slam professional
    Sexson – 6′7″ and ready to pound on people
    Giambi – gotta let the roid rage out sometime
    Ponson – probably drunk on his off day so he’ll throw a few haymakers”

    lol. Maybe Betemit, too

  1140. kd July 30th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    i guess they’re pulling starters in case there’s payback for edwar’s pitch

  1141. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Betemit is batting for Jeter so that Derek doesn’t K 4 times today.

  1142. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    I’d get A-Rod out of this game. No reason to leave him in there, if a Baltimore pitcher feels like causing trouble, they could try to hurt him. Wouldn’t want to see him go down with an injury in such a blowout.

  1143. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    These umpires are absolute dirtbags. What a bunch of gout-ridden commies.

    And Nady and Christian rule. Damon LF, Christian CF, Nady RF, Bobby DH. All I’m saying….

  1144. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    If Nady can continue to do that I will have no problem w/ him. (remember I said it’s a boom or bust deal but the bust comes down to Nady can he continue what he has done this season or not that will determine if we pulled off a heist in this deal)

    Jesus Betemit hurts to watch from the right side.

  1145. Chris N. July 30th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

    Any shot they resign Abreu and move him to first base? His steady presence in the lineup is underrated.

  1146. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Betemit is absolutely pathetic.

  1147. MikeEff July 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Brandon—how bout now?

  1148. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Paul,

    Yeah, cause everyone in the world is rational at all times. The ump threw a guy out for not hitting anyone. Makes a ton of sense. And when umpires become perfect, you can take their actions as being dispositive regarding baseball matters. But they are not perfect and it was ridiculous to throw the kid out for not hitting Millar.

  1149. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Make the deal…get Washburn !

  1150. Vanessa - F4TD July 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    the ball that hit molina hit his foot. who intentionally wants to hit someones foot? the home plate ump would’ve been fired if he tossed their pitcher for that.

  1151. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Betemit struck out again. Wow, I’m so surprised. That is such a rare occurrence.

    Why are we wasting a roster spot with this guy?

  1152. blackdragon905 July 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    does betemit still have trade value?

  1153. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

    Are any of you that are complaining about their pitcher not getting tossed actually watching the game? Edwar threw over Millar’s head. This guy bounced a slider off of Molina’s back foot. It’s a little different.

  1154. BBB July 30th, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    “When the hell is Cashman going to file a grievance with MLB? This is beyond ridiculous!!! Can’t the players union complain about this crap?”

    Moose is our players union rep and I would not allow this insanity to go any farther if I was him.

  1155. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    *sigh* Why can’t some fans just enjoy their team winning? Every win counts towards that magic number for the WC or pennant.

    So they face a tough team in the next series. I’m a true fan, win or lose I support my team. I’m rooting for them to win, I don’t count those games as automatic losses.

  1156. MikeEff July 30th, 2008 at 3:55 pm

    betemit hurts to watch in pinstripes

  1157. DV July 30th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Holy Crap…how could Wilson swing at that pitch ? He seriously has to go OR not be allowed to ever bat again…that is just SO Little League right there….what a total mess at the plate he has become….Send Wilson and Melky to Seattle for Washburn….keep Christian and hope Matsui & Gardner can pitch in, as well….but these 2 guys do not deserve to be wearing the pinstripes….have fun in Seattle, DUDES ! ;-(

  1158. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 3:56 pm

    Brandon—how bout now?

    Nope.

  1159. Tseng July 30th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    When we want to hit people we should throw 80mph breaking pitches. Then we can throw at their heads all we want!

  1160. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    The Yankees have Wilson Betemit as their UIF and we get to see his poor glove and horrible at bats. Chris Woodward who can play any position on the field and actually do so with some skill, and was actually swinging a hot bat in Tampa this spring, but no, he got cut in favor of this chump.

  1161. FergsKU July 30th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    I haven’t heard anyone get on Arod this season. Been to the Stadium 15 times.

  1162. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    does betemit still have trade value?

    Thanks, I needed a good lauugh!

  1163. rconn23 July 30th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    Feast or famine offense.

    Glad to have a win, but this series will be one that will really hurt in the long run. Had to take advantage of Boston’s woes and didn’t do it. Doubt Boston loses tonight. None of the pitching matchups against the Angels favor the Yanks, with the possible exception of tomorrow’s.

    The Yankees really need to take 3 out of 4 to have chance at the wild card or division. You can’t expect Boston to keep losing and Tampa to fall apart. The Yankees have to play premium baseball right now, and I’m just not sure they are capable of that.

  1164. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 3:57 pm

    “11. Jackson 563
    12. Schmidt 548
    13. A-Rod 541″

    I think Alex has a shot at catching Reggie this year. He will definitely get Schmidt.

  1165. Bryan (Yankees fan) July 30th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    i specify because of all those losers who are fans of other teams come on here and put their allegiances in ( )

    so i am mocking them

  1166. Fredo Corleone July 30th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    “does betemit still have trade value?”

    Depends. Is he at all adept at landscaping???

  1167. BBB (X gon'give it to ya) July 30th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    “Farnsworth – body slam professional
    Sexson – 6′7″ and ready to pound on people
    Giambi – gotta let the roid rage out sometime
    Ponson – probably drunk on his off day so he’ll throw a few haymakers”

    I’m tellin’ ya guys, do not underestimate Edwar. Hell hath no fury like a skinny kid scorned!!

    Damon and Melky are down to brawl too as we’ve seen the last few times the benches cleared.

  1168. Eddie Vedder July 30th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    Can someone please tell this loser to stop using my song for his pathetic at bats ?

  1169. YanksFanMan July 30th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    Betemit’s a back up, you can’t really expect he’s going to do something decent coming off the bench. He filled his quota for the year a few weeks ago against the A’s tying the game.

  1170. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    yanks have no bench that means a-rod needs to stay in the game! i bet you someone will hit him!!!!!!

  1171. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    I can’t remember when Betemit ever had trade value. Did we only give them the broken-down body of Scott Proctor?

  1172. pat July 30th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Players are creatures of habit. Maybe Nady is hiting today because he’s playing his natural position in right field where he’s more comfortable.

  1173. Today's Burning Question July 30th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    How many of these runs will be wished for with the Angels coming to the Bronx for 4 games ??

  1174. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    the pitch to arod last night was almost identical to Joba/Youk pitch. except Arod didn’t duck and stare back at the pitcher afterwards. but if he didn’t move, that would’ve hit his head.

  1175. Andrew July 30th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Who would want Betemit at the rate that he’s swinging and missing this year? Maybe a really offense-starved NL team, but more likely somewhere in the International League is where Betemit will end up.

  1176. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Wilson can play defense! AHA!

  1177. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Brandon: I’m guessing Manny is staying put?

  1178. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    does betemit still have trade value

    Maybe for Jeff Keppinger or Mark Loretta

  1179. frits July 30th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    i’ve never read a blog in which the author had such a disdain for the majority of his/her commenters. its truly bizarre. it’s like he hates 90% of his readers…

  1180. Skippy July 30th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    Just thinking–there’s an awful lot of commenting and activity on this post for a game that’s taking place during working hours. Seems like there’s a lot not getting done today…

  1181. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    LMAO – @ Fredo – Betemit comment!

  1182. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    “Are any of you that are complaining about their pitcher not getting tossed actually watching the game? Edwar threw over Millar’s head. This guy bounced a slider off of Molina’s back foot. It’s a little different.”

    I’m at work so no, I’m not watching the game. Can only go by what GameCast says. Still, the Yankees have been the league’s catcher’s mitt for far too long now. It’s about time we start standing up for ourselves and put the rest of the league on notice that we won’t be taking that crap anymore.

  1183. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    “The Yankees really need to take 3 out of 4 to have chance at the wild card or division. You can’t expect Boston to keep losing and Tampa to fall apart. The Yankees have to play premium baseball right now, and I’m just not sure they are capable of that.”

    Yep. Winning 9 of 12 games after the all star break is horrendous indeed. Hard to like a team that sweeps the Twins and Oakland and takes 2 of 3 from Boston.

  1184. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop (aka Joe) July 30th, 2008 at 4:01 pm

    Doris from Rego Park??

    Why do I know that name?

  1185. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    “it’s like he hates 90% of his readers…”

    Nope, he just hates you.
    :P

  1186. legions of Yankee fans July 30th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    PLEEEEEEEZE Brian Cashman !!! . . . Find a way to rid the roster of Betemit by the trading deadline tomorrow.

  1187. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    frits: Summer vacation! Yay for remaining in academia!

  1188. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    Castro homers on strike 4.

  1189. stf July 30th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Brilliant move by Girardi – Betemit for Jeter. Girardi just thought he’s going to end this inning… trade Betemit for bag of baseballs…

  1190. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Brandon: I’m guessing Manny is staying put?

    He signed some papers to waive his NTC to a couple of teams today..so stay tuned.

  1191. BBB (X gon'give it to ya) July 30th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    “does betemit still have trade value

    Maybe for Jeff Keppinger or Mark Loretta”

    Could we really get one of these guys for WB? If so…why is he still here? Gitterdun Cash!

  1192. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    “The Yankees really need to take 3 out of 4 to have chance at the wild card or division. You can’t expect Boston to keep losing and Tampa to fall apart. The Yankees have to play premium baseball right now, and I’m just not sure they are capable of that.”

    The Yanks do have a bunch of games left against the Sox and Rays, too.

  1193. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Guys be ready for the brawl this inning! betcha mama!

  1194. Doris From Rego Park July 30th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Becuase I was a frequent caller to WFAN. You may know me by my wonderful cough, which sounded like I was trying to regurgitate a feral animal. I died a few years ago. Probably related to that cough

  1195. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    “Could we really get one of these guys for WB? If so…why is he still here? Gitterdun Cash!”

    Doubt it. Other teams don’t think of the Yankees trash as a treasure.

  1196. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Cashman will find a way to get rid of Betemit. Remember when Chacon was gone at the last mintue, and was exchanged for Craig Wilson 2 years ago?

  1197. pat July 30th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Skippy- TV in my office on mute and I’m a multi-tasker.

  1198. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Whew, smart move Girardi getting A-Rod out of there.

  1199. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    taking arod and jeet out of the equation. good move.

  1200. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Brandon: I thought the deadline was 4 PM? Or no?

    Doris: What circle did they send you to? ;)

  1201. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Brandon thats not breaking news. I said that bout Manny bout 4 hours ago or so. Thought u had inside information.. haha

  1202. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    Is there an unwritten rule in baseball that you don’t go after the younger players?
    Aim for the veterans but not the prospects?

  1203. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    Rebecca I got a text Phillies, Dodgers or Marlins in the next 24 – 48 hrs.

  1204. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    pete who will play 3rd now? moller?

  1205. Doris From Rego Park July 30th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    BTW, rumors of a Greinke trade to Texas are floating around the web today.

  1206. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    How can a pitcher walk Sexson – his strike zone is approximately an acre! :)

  1207. CB July 30th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Fredo,

    Even if Davis is off the table a deal centered around Hellickson and Brignac would be a good one for Bay. Niemann would be a fine for a third player and if they get a 4th player from the lower minors with upside that would be a very good trade for the bucs.

    It makes the yankees deal look all the better. Niemann as the third prospect is better than any of the 3 pitchers the yankees gave up. Brignac and Hellickson are better than Tabata.

    If that’s what it would take to get Bay I’m more than happy that the yanks didn’t get him.

    Tampa has a tremendous system but its been a bit of a down year for them in many ways, especially with some of their blue chip pitchers. McGee went down with TJ and Davis has been mediocre to disappointing in AA. That’s a lot of pitchin talent that doesn’t look nearly as good as it did to start the season. Losing Hellickson is going to hurt.

    That’s a deal I’m comfortable having the yanks pass on and Tampa making.

  1208. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Brandon thats not breaking news. I said that bout Manny bout 4 hours ago or so. Thought u had inside information.. haha

    I said that waaay before you. Check the post history :)

  1209. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Okay, who’s playing third?

  1210. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    Okay any one who posts comments complaining about Molina getting hit and the pitcher not getting ejected – if it’s because your limited to what Game Day tells you – then SHUT UP! Follow the basic rule of “If you don’t know what you’re talking about than shut the hell up”

  1211. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    Brandon: Thanks. We’ll certainly stay tuned!

    I see him going to the Phillies or Dodgers before the Marlins, though.

    Especially the Dodgers. I mean, if it means the Dodgers can release Andruw Jones…

  1212. BBB (X gon'give it to ya) July 30th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    “Doubt it. Other teams don’t think of the Yankees trash as a treasure.”

    Yeah, I don’t see anyone accepting WB for anything much different than Scott Proctor in exchange. I just found it interesting he mentioned Loretta because for the longest time I’ve hoped the Yankees could trade for him to replace Bet. I doubt it though, HOU already has Wigginton, what do they want with the poor man’s version of him?

  1213. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Get Betemit out of here and get Chris Woodward back!

  1214. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Tim Boat,

    Take a few deep breaths and go seek anger management.

    Geez…count to ten or something.

  1215. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    I did and no u didnt u said he signed off for a trade. which you were wrong he cant sign papers until he actually gets traded so u were wrong I said before you that he traded off for some teams so you check.. THANK YOU

  1216. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Rebecca el no quieres jugar en nueva york.

  1217. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    a the designated pitcher Dan Giese !

  1218. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    Rebecca, I heard that the Dodger would trade for Manny only if the Red Sox takes Andruw Jones.

  1219. Jimmy D July 30th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    Nady comes out to “X Gonna Give it to Ya”, I was there last night

  1220. Pedro July 30th, 2008 at 4:13 pm

    We might not score 13 runs total in the 4 games against the Angels and it wouldn’t surprise anyone.

  1221. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Lol. Moeller at third. Has he ever played third?

  1222. Karen July 30th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Pete said: UPDATE, 12:08 p.m.: Ah, some scribes in Seattle are upset with reports about the Washburn trade. They’re blaming the evil New York media for the stories. Which is pretty amusing.
    This guy blames the media.
    This guy blames the Yankees.
    This guy blames the media, too.”

    You’re just proving their point yet again, Pete.

  1223. EricVA July 30th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    m4rk6,

    Apparently the second time in his career.

  1224. BBB (X gon'give it to ya) July 30th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    oh and just to weigh in on this Manny thing, to me the Dodgers seem the best fit for him b/c they have lots of prospects but not really any money to spend apparently, so Boston eating his remaining contract would work well for them. LA wouldn’t really send Matt Kemp to Boston just for 2 months of Manny though would they? Thats what I’ve been hearing…

  1225. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Brandon: Lo entiendo. Y es porque pienso ira a un equipo en Los Angeles…pero Philadelphia juege contra los Mets muchos veces en el año.

    Es que es ;)

  1226. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    Drill Him! lol

  1227. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Dan Giese rocks.

    Also glad to see D-Rob rebounded from a tough outing. That shows something.

  1228. Redding July 30th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    That Betemit-Proctor trade was terrible for both teams… an awful reliever for an awful bench player.

    There is no need for Betemit… how often does Cano, Arod, Jeter get off? 2 day each the entire season?

  1229. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Manny’s not getting traded.

  1230. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    I wonder why Cashman isn’t bringing up the likes of Ben Broussard, Chris Woodward, Bernie Castro, or Nick Green?

  1231. DFox July 30th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    “Lol. Moeller at third. Has he ever played third?”

    Yes a few days ago

  1232. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    game day is all crapped up today!

  1233. BBB (X gon'give it to ya) July 30th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    Thanks Jimmy D. Good to know.

  1234. TKinDC July 30th, 2008 at 4:16 pm

    0% chance Abreu makes that play.

    0%

  1235. pat July 30th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Nady- not afraid of the wall.

  1236. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Now the fun really begins tomorrow night.

    Stock up on booze and aspirin. lol

  1237. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    ball game over yankees win! You see when moller is at 3rd we win!!!!! lol!!!!!!!!

  1238. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Cashman hasn’t brought up Chris Woodward because Woodward was cut from the team in ST, last I heard he was on the Phillies AAA team.

  1239. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    0% chance Abreu makes that play.

    No. 0.00000000001%

  1240. Andrew July 30th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Yankees have flirted with Loretta for a while and he’s never ended up here. Don’t know if that will change between now and tomorrow, but he is definitely someone the team has interest in. I like the bench more, though, with Justin Christian as the backup OF and Sexson as the RH 1B/late inning replacement. Betemit would be the weak link at this point, and if you’re already going to carry K-machine Sexson and he’s going to mostly play at 1st, I don’t see the point in keeping Betemit. The former US Attorney General would be a better choice than Wilson, I’d have more faith in him getting a bloop single in a big spot than Wilson overswinging every time.

  1241. Hong Kong Inn July 30th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Isn’t it time to send Robertson back to AAA? I mean ERA 4.91, how’s he going to make it.

  1242. fred from jersey July 30th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    Abreu = Official DH of the 2008 NY Yankees

  1243. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    you sure it’s not 00000000000000000.1% ? ;)

  1244. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Manny’s not getting traded.

    Pay attention to the next 24-48 hrs. ;)

  1245. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:20 pm

    Cashman hasn’t brought up Chris Woodward because Woodward was cut from the team in ST, last I heard he was on the Phillies AAA team.

    oh yeah, thanks for the reminder.

  1246. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Pudge Rodriguez a Yankee …what the f… just happened :?

  1247. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Brandon, the deadline is tomorrow? unless Manny will be on a waiver trade?

  1248. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Breaking News Yankees get Pudge

  1249. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Pudge Rodriguez a Yankee …what the f… just happened

    are you serious?

  1250. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Manny’s not getting traded.

    Pay attention to the next 24-48 hrs.

    I will but not a chance in hell.

    Plus it would have to be in the next 23 hours, no? ;)

  1251. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    for who?

  1252. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Hopefully, tomorrow, Pettitte goes againt his recent hisory against the angels, because, they’ve hit him hard. Completely different than earlier in his career. Garrett Anderson and Guerrero always rips him.

  1253. PittsburghYankeeFan July 30th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Yankees acquire Pudge Rodriguez? For whom?

  1254. pat July 30th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Heyman on WFAN said current rumor is Manny to the Marlins for 2 prospects. One is an OF but I didn’t hear the name. Said it seems like the Sox are only talking to NL teams.

  1255. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Yankees didnt get Pudge nor will they

  1256. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    Pudge for who? What / who did they give up? Jesus, my stress levels are rising on a day we won. Christ!

  1257. BBB (X gon'give it to ya) July 30th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    “Pete said: UPDATE, 12:08 p.m.: Ah, some scribes in Seattle are upset with reports about the Washburn trade. They’re blaming the evil New York media for the stories. Which is pretty amusing….

    You’re just proving their point yet again, Pete.”

    Karen: I actually don’t disagree with you in that the papers here have done nothing to help negotiations in this trade by constantly portraying the Mariners org. as misguided and the interim GM as a newbie. No offense intended but I don’t think the media is necessarily wrong about these things, but it’s obvious their constant mentioning it hasn’t helped a deal get done.

    With that said, though – don’t you think the M’s are kinda cutting off their nose to spite their own face by letting their ire at the media dictate their moves here? If they have several teams interested in Washburn but only one that is willing to eat his whole salary, who cares what the media says? The NY Daily News isn’t paying the Mariners’ bills, but the Yankees are offering to pay one of their bills (a pretty hefty one) in this case. Why let the media’s arrogance get in the way of salary relief?

  1258. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Pudge? Yeah, right..

  1259. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Huge win.

  1260. DV July 30th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    ” DV
    July 30th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
    I am calling Yankees score 12-15 runs this game…”
    .
    and YES, I am tooting my own horn. Great game, Yankees !

  1261. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Heyman on WFAN said current rumor is Manny to the Marlins for 2 prospects. One is an OF but I didn’t hear the name. Said it seems like the Sox are only talking to NL teams.

    watch out Mets, Manny will kill you.

    good news for the Yankee’s pitchers if its transition goes through.

  1262. rconn23 July 30th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    “Isn’t it time to send Robertson back to AAA? I mean ERA 4.91, how’s he going to make it.”

    Not a time to give up on the kid for one bad outing. He’s dominated at every level in the minors, and was doing great until his last outing. He is a strikeout pitcher who will be an integral part of the bullpen moving forward, especially next year along with Melancon.

  1263. benfica356 July 30th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    buster olney reported on Kay show that YAnks got Pudge, we don’t kno for whom yet

  1264. stet July 30th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    i just saw that report!! nuts!!

  1265. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    Just got a phone call:

    Yankees got pudge

  1266. BBFan July 30th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    It is a very good win.
    Lot of positives, includng Nady findng his stroke since the trade.

    Regarding the next series, all those with weak heart, please calm down. Yes, they were good against Yanks in the last few years or may be a decade. But it is not necessary it is going to repeat.

    They always killed us in the past with thier speed.
    Now with Molina that gets neutralized.
    Even with Tex, their offense does not match up with ours.
    We will take at least 2, may be three from the Halos.
    Listen, Yanks played well against Minny, Oakland and Boston when all of them were ahead in the standings.
    It won’t be any different with Halos.

  1267. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 4:28 pm

    What’s this about Ivan Rodriguez?

  1268. 23121 July 30th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    yankees got pudge

  1269. jay destro July 30th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3511535

    yanks get pudge

  1270. migames July 30th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    true…
    Yankees acquire Pudge
    With Jorge Posada out, the Yankees have been hunting for catching help. They got it Wednesday afternoon when they acquired Ivan Rodriguez from the Detroit Tigers, according to ESPN the Magazine’s Buster Olney.

  1271. Coach Jay23 July 30th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    HOLY OMG we got PUDGE!!!!!!!!!!!!! GREAT JOB CASHMAN

  1272. Hong Kong Inn July 30th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    Pudge? NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    I hate to give good pitching prospects back to those DAMN Tigers!

  1273. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    YESSSSS NO MORE FRANSWORTH!!!!!!!!!!

  1274. grafxkid July 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    same here. just got a phone call about pudge!

  1275. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Hmm ESPN is reporting it too http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3511535

    I really hope we didn’t have to give much up.

  1276. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Is this BS about Pudge?

  1277. mike July 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    ESPN also reporting that Pudge has been traded to the Yankees

  1278. PittsburghYankeeFan July 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    For Farnsworth!!!!

    O happy day! O happy day!

  1279. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    buster olney reported on Kay show that YAnks got Pudge, we don’t kno for whom yet

    Olney’s not the brightest, but he’s not normally completely wrong.

  1280. 23121 July 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    PUdge for kyle fransworth

  1281. The Bronx Stop July 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Way to go Edwar!!! Although I really don’t know if he would be trying to egg on a fight. He’s a pretty skinny dude!!!!

  1282. BBB (X gon'give it to ya) July 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    HOLY COW I LOVE YOU CASHMONEY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    This is the last year of Pudge’s deal right? SCORE!!!!!!

  1283. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    Good trade for Pudge. It’s on ESPN’s page also. Pudge isn’t the hitter he once was but as far as I know he’s got a gun behind the plate. Does anyone know (CB, Fredo) if he’s still a good defensive catcher?

  1284. Bryan (Yankees fan) July 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    I have to root for “i lost 40 lbs after not eating potato chips” man this will be hard

    i hate him

  1285. yankee2123 July 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    It’s on ESPN ,Yanks get Pudge!

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/index

  1286. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Pudge for Fransworth…YES NO MORE FRANSWORTH!!!

  1287. PittsburghYankeeFan July 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    I will personally kiss Cashman’s feet. Kyle was gassed. This probably came out of the LaTroy Hawkins discussions.

  1288. stet July 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    nah man, true. check espn news

  1289. Hong Kong Inn July 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Melancon NY Bound

  1290. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    Last year of the deal. Perfect time to grab a veteran rental.

  1291. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    I’m surprised that Girardi gave up Farnsworth.

  1292. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Pudge for Farnsworth.

    Tallk about selling high…

  1293. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    I REPEAT FRANSWORTH FOR PUDGE

  1294. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Kyle Farnsworth has been traded

  1295. ThecanoCannon (Second Half Record--8-3) July 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    wfan gunna announce a big yankees trade after commercial brake

  1296. Buzz ( Joba for Rookie of the Year ) July 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    YEA Fransworth is gone FOr pudge petty good deal!

  1297. hmmmm July 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    Farnsy + Zoobyya + Rodney + Jones = ?

  1298. BBB (X gon'give it to ya) July 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    This is unfrickinbelievable. I don’t even know what to say right now.

  1299. benfica356 July 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    farnsy part of trade!

  1300. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

    They moved Melancon up to AAA two days ago I believe so I wonder if they plan on bringing him up now that Farnsy is a goner. Does Detroit have a good backup catcher?

  1301. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Where is it reported that Farnsworth is the guy we are giving up?

  1302. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Oh, Cashman you are amazing. The silent assassin, indeed.

  1303. mike July 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    for farnsworth is correct lol wow

  1304. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    I feel bad for Molina.

  1305. Dan Giese's Uncle July 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    More Abreu as DH please!

  1306. benfica356 July 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    farnsy for pudge

  1307. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Jesus. Cashmoney you are on the money again! Thanks for holding it together long enough to become trade worthy, Krazy Kyle!

  1308. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    either one of the rookies are being promoted, or they are trading for another pitcher.

  1309. DV July 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    that is 2 GREAT trades for the Yankees…now go get Washburn and/or another #3-#4 level starter and we are RIGHT AS RAIN !!! Sweet !!!

  1310. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    wow. Pudge may be one of the players i HATE most. good lord.

  1311. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    Pudge for Farnsworth??? Who’s reporting Farnsworth? There’s no way that’s all we gave up …

  1312. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    “The Yankees seem to have found a replacement for Jorge Posada.

    The Yankees have acquaired catcher Ivan Rodriguez from the Tigers. Detroit will get right-handed pitcher Kyle Farnsworth, who played with the Tigers previously in 2005.

    Posada, the five-time All-Star catcher, announced he would have season-ending surgery on his right shoulder on Monday.

    Posada has struggled with shoulder pain most of the season, weakening his throws and limiting his playing time behind the plate.

    On the disabled list for the second time this year, Posada was trying to rehabilitate his shoulder enough to come back as a DH or first baseman this season. But after the Yankees acquired outfielder Xavier Nady in a trade with Pittsburgh on Saturday, they determined it was best for Posada to have surgery now, general manager Brian Cashman said Monday.”

  1313. Bryan (Yankees fan) July 30th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    Farnsworth for Pudge… NOW I AM ON BOARD

  1314. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    WOW!!!!

    Pudge!!!

  1315. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    My dreams of seeing Krazy Kyle piledrive someone in pinstripes is dead.

  1316. pat July 30th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    Kay confirmed it per Lon Trost.

  1317. PittsburghYankeeFan July 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Zumaya got hurt again. That’s why they were looking to pick up LaTroy on the cheap.

    Looks like Kyle had no future with the team, and the Sox game I think was the last straw.

    Good luck, Kyle. You worked hard but NY was not for you.

  1318. BBB (X gon'give it to ya) July 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    I don’t know about the rest of you, but I’ve just accepted Brian Cashman as my lord and personal savior. Prepare that extension NOW Hank & Hal!

  1319. geO [Murderer's Row and Cano] July 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Holy Crap Rodriguez with Rodriguez agaiN!?!

    Pudge with the Yankee!? IM MARKING OUT!

  1320. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    10 year deal for Cashman. Do it now Hank.

  1321. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    If Melancon is called up this trade is a win, if not I’m not so sure…

  1322. Andrew July 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Hello, Scott Strickland.

  1323. Buzz ( Joba for Rookie of the Year ) July 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

    Veras for setup!

  1324. back bench July 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    For Farnsworth.

    Where did that come from?

  1325. Alex July 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    wow cashman has really done a great job this year

  1326. Blargh July 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    How the hell….

    Who’s the backup catcher for the Tigers then?

  1327. pete July 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    woooooooohoooooooooo

    no more farnsworth

  1328. Astorian July 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Hahahahaha!!!

    Pudge for Farnsworth!!!

    Yes!!! Cashman is a theif!!

  1329. Kevin July 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Pudge for Farnsworth?! I like it

  1330. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Pudge for Farnsworth??? Who’s reporting Farnsworth? There’s no way that’s all we gave up.

    ESPN, its true Pudge for Fransworth straight up.

  1331. Brandon July 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    According to espn.com the Yankees traded Farnsworth for Pudge.

    Wow. Yankees need a better hitting catcher but farnsworth has been on hittable lately.

  1332. Harley July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Cripes, Farnsworth for Pudge? Where’s Abe?

    I’m guessing he fainted with joy. Smelling salts, stat!

  1333. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Melancon comes up soon?

  1334. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    “I feel bad for Molina.”

    As much as Molina probably likes being starting Catcher, his body is probably breaking down already. Pudge Comes at the right time. IMO.

  1335. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Can’t understand how Cashman hasn’t drugged up the D’backs GM yet for Brandon Webb. Rodriguez isn’t having a bad year at all and he is a HUGE upgrade on Molina. To get him for only Farnsworth is incredible.

  1336. Wangawa July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    wow, very interesting move… I guess Cashman was worried that Molina wouldn’t hold up as the everyday catcher for the rest of the season

  1337. Tank July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Excellent move… We have an excess of relievers, with guys like Marte, Edwar, Veras, Robertson and guys like Bruney, Britton, Strickland, Melancon in the minors.

    Melancon’s promotion had to be aligned with this trade.

  1338. Jason July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    FORGET PUDGE, NO MORE FARNSWORTH!

  1339. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    there has to be more to it then just farnsy. there is no way you just give farnsy for pudge straight up.

    hmmm.. i wonder if pudge somehow plays his way into the future and jorge moves to 1b/dh in the future..

    but WOW…

    now we just need a 4/5 pitcher and you cant ask for more.

  1340. PittsburghYankeeFan July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    “I don’t expect any trades today or tomorrow,” says Cash to Pete.

    Man, Pete, either you are getting owed on a regular basis or you are part of the propaganda and know more than we think…

  1341. gayle July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    As I said Cashman is the most stealth guy out there

  1342. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    I don’t feel too bad for Molina. He needs the rest, and the Yankees need more offense.

    Anyway, Molina is signed through next year, Pudge isn’t.

  1343. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    I wonder what number will Pudge choose?

  1344. PJH July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Bye Moeller. I guess Rasner is gonna be terrible now.

  1345. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    I say a combination of Veras and Marte will hold down the 8th. Edwar in the 6th-7th, Robertson middle relief, Giese the long man. Plus we’ll probably add another arm to the roster.

  1346. Skippy July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    Does anyone know Pudge’s contract status? Is he signed for more than this year? If so, what happens next year? He was only a p/t catcher for the Tigers this year, and I don’t think he’s been hitting much. I’d rather not be stuck with another sort of 1B/sort of DH/sort of catchers.

  1347. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    Wow. Detroit’s love for Farnsworth has always been pretty well known. But wow. Pudge with Molina backing up? We haven’t had that kind of backstop combo since ’96.

    Pudge, Marte, and Nady for Farnsworth, Ohlendorf, Tabata, McCutchen, and Karstens. Now we need to get that Igawa for Washburn thing done and Cashman will officially be a patron saint.

  1348. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    What the hell was Detroit thinking ? Pudge is a Type A player (they lose that draft pick for Farnsy ?)

    :?

  1349. Buzz ( Joba for Rookie of the Year ) July 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    too bad for moellar hes gonna get DFA

  1350. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    I’m guessing, Marte for setup (even after that disaster) and maybe Kennedy called up.

  1351. ThecanoCannon (Second Half Record--9-3) July 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    does this trade mean bruney is on his way up

  1352. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    Selling high on Farnsworth….BRILLIANT MOVE CASMONEY!

  1353. Jack July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    yessss! pudge baby

  1354. Chaz July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    I LOVE THIS TRADE!

    Krazy Kyle get out of town.

    Pudge is obviously not the hitting stud he was when the league was juiced but i can definitely get on board for a .295 avg from the catching spot. This takes out the speed bump of Molina from our lineup.

    And I absolutely believe this will be a situation of addition by subtraction with Kyle gone even though he was been somewhat reliable of late. I’ve been praying for him to have a solid month so that we could trade him for something decent.

    I am one happy camper.

  1355. Jose July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    HERE’S A LINK TO A FARNSWORTH(LESS?) FOR PUDGE

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3511535

  1356. Chaz July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    I LOVE THIS TRADE!

    Krazy Kyle get out of town.

    Pudge is obviously not the hitting stud he was when the league was juiced but i can definitely get on board for a .295 avg from the catching spot. This takes out the speed bump of Molina from our lineup.

    And I absolutely believe this will be a situation of addition by subtraction with Kyle gone even though he was been somewhat reliable of late. I’ve been praying for him to have a solid month so that we could trade him for something decent.

    I am one happy camper.

  1357. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    girardi on yes talking about trade

  1358. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    girardi on yes talking about trade. almost shed a tear talking about his relationship with farns

  1359. Jose July 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    HERE’S A LINK TO THE TRADE FARNSWORTH(LESS?) FOR PUDGE

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3511535

  1360. Andrew July 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    They better move Joba back to the pen, since the 8th inning is the most important inning of all, more important than the 9th even, in case you guys forgot.

  1361. ANSKY July 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Farnsworth got traded for Pudge?

    So who’s gonna body slam Youkilis when he starts a brawl later this month?

    Edwar?

    At least Pudge is hitting .295
    CS % is .360

  1362. Buzz ( Joba for Rookie of the Year ) July 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    “Does anyone know Pudge’s contract status? Is he signed for more than this year”

    his contract expire after this year

  1363. geO [Murderer's Row and Cano] July 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Dejavu with Alex and Pudge always end up in the same teams.

    I love deals like this major leaguer for major leaguer.

  1364. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    trisha – Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth!

    are you still suporting him????

  1365. Joe Monte July 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Farnsworth gave up too many HRs to be trusted. Great trade.

  1366. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    MAn GI Joe really sold that love for Kyle..my goodness what was Detroit thinking !

  1367. David Cone's Labrum July 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Great move before the runnin’ Angels come to town, too.

  1368. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Joe getting teary-eyed over Farnsworth. So am I, thinking about this:

    Kyle Farnsworth and Todd Jones if we face Detroit in the postseason.

  1369. Ed - Yanks will be Yanks in the 2nd half! July 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    tomorrow’s lineup will be:

    Damon
    Jeter
    Abreu
    A.Rodriguez
    Cano
    Nady
    Giambi
    I.Rodriguez
    Cabrera
    ….?

  1370. Chaz July 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Girardi must’ve really like Farnsy he almost just broke down

  1371. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    im in shock.

    nobody should ever ever question Cash-Money!!!!

    this means bruney is probably ready to come up. i dont expect bruney to be lights out, but there is a good mix of arms in this pen now. Marte, Robertson, Ramirez and Veras as your top pen guys is not bad at all.

    Pudge has always had a positive effect on every pitching staff, so he should come do fine with these guys.

    Molina should be proud of the great job he did and he is still going to catch Moose im sure.

    WOW WOW

  1372. 86w183 July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    We got Pudge, Marte andNady for Farnswurst, Ohlendorf, McCutchen and two AA players? That’s freakin’ amazing!

    Much better overall team. Much better chemistry without Fransie. Much better vs LH pitcher which has killed us.

    I’m all in, give ‘em Gardner or Melky if that’s what it takes to get Washburn to replace Ponson in the rotation.

    Might they re-sign Hawkins for the rest of the season?

    Cashman for God!

  1373. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    trisha – Still supporting Kyle Farnsworth!
    are you still supporting him?

  1374. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    i hate pudge. there really aren’t many players i hate. hope he can change my mind.

  1375. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    i hate this deal now who will pitch the 8th???!!!
    pudge is not that good. sorry!!!! it stinks!

  1376. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Here’s what I think Cash should do..

    DFA Moeller, Call up Melancon, trade for Washburn if (and when) the Mariners give up on getting a top prospect, call up Kennedy. That gives us a roster of:

    Damon LF
    Jeter SS
    Abreu DH
    A. Rodriguez 3B
    Giambi 1B
    Cano 2B
    Nady RF
    I. Rodriguez C
    Cabrera CF

    Bench: Molina C, Sexson DH/1B, Betemit IF, Christian OF

    Starters: Mussina, Chamberlain, Pettitte, Kennedy, Washburn

    Bullpen: Rivera, Marte, Melancon, Veras, Ramirez, Robertson, Giese

  1377. geO [Murderer's Row and Cano] July 30th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Farnsy is tearing up

  1378. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    GEES people, WE NEED PITCHING, not another catcher. Does Pudge pitch? Will Pudge help us against LA? WE NEED A STARTING PITCHER? WHEN will this team EVER learn, PITCHING wins games and defense. Ask LA or Boston……..or Tampa for that matter. WHOOPIE, another catcher……….PITCHING Cashman, come on!

  1379. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    I just texted my cousin who is a huge Red Sox fan about the trade. He text me back, “Don’t the Yanks need pitching”…..Yes, not another catcher. Dumb move unless we get Washburn.

  1380. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Getting a guy like pudge has to also be a hedge against if Jorge is out longer then expected or doesnt fully recover next season.

    i know pudge is at the end of his contract, but he may fall in love with NYC and decide to resign.

  1381. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Let’s see, Pudge and Posada next year? Maybe Yanks can pay two catchers each $42 milllion? What do you think?

  1382. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Come on Cash, get a pitcher. Moose, Kennedy, Hughes aren’t going to lead us anywhere………….

  1383. John H. July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Sad to see Farnsworth go…but we needed a catcher.

  1384. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    sherry, everyone knows we need pitching, and that’s the problem isn’t it. Everyone knows. Would you really give up a + prospect and take on Washburn’s salary?

  1385. geO [Murderer's Row and Cano] July 30th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    We have a bullpen.

    Our batting goes to sleep.

    Our defense is only getting better.

    So it’s Win = Win

  1386. Skippy July 30th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Buzz, thanks for the contract info.

  1387. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    PETE!!! where are updates.. his head must be spinning.

    Yes, we need a 4th/5th starter: Rasner and Ponson will not hold up. BUT the anemic offense is a bigger issue. We have probably lost more games cause we cannot hit with RISP over poor pitching in the past month or so.

    We need Offense!!

    We will get washburn, no doubt

  1388. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    Pudge isn’t going to resign with the Yanks after this year, we don’t need him past this year. Posada and Molina is fine for 2009. If its Pudge for Farns straight up its a good deal because Cash would be selling high on Farns and its a position of good depth for the Yanks.

  1389. Andrew July 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    Pudge is a 2-month rental, sherry, and if you have been paying attention to anything in the last month, there isn’t any pitching out there for anything near a reasonable price. When you are pegging a “good” trading deadline on getting Jarrod Washburn, that means there isn’t any good pitching available at the right price.

  1390. CB July 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    I really can’t believe they just pulled this off, if it is really true.

    Farnsworth has finally made himself useful.

    I was going to post something on this prior but figured there was no point as there wasn’t much they could do with the catching situation.

    Even when you have a great offense it is very difficult to carry a player who is playing at replacement level production.

    Molina this year with the bat has been a replacement level catcher. He’s been that awful with the bat. You only have 27 outs in a game – when you have a player like Molina who makes out at such a high rate he bruns up 4 of those 27 outs way too often.

    Again – not Molina’s fault – he’s a back up. But regardless, its a major problem trying to carry a replacement level player no matter how good the offense is.

    And this offense hasn’t been that great this year.

    When people have looked at the impact of having a replacement level bat in a line up the results have not been pretty. Carrying that kind of player has often made the difference between making the playoffs and missing the playoffs, espcecially when races are tight – like they are this year.

    Quite honestly, going into the trade deadline, the yankees single biggest need was finding a catcher. Every other issue was secondary. That’s how much of an impact carrying a player like Molina as an everyday player makes.

    Molina’s line to date: .229 .279 .307 – that’s a .586 OPS

    Replace that with Pudge – .295 .338 .417 – that’s a .756 OPS.

    I can’t emphasize how enormous that upgrade is. To replace a .586 OPS player with a .756 OPS player is just enormous.

    And on top of that the yankees will get a better draft pick for Pudge than they will for Farnsworth.

    Just an unbelievable deal.

    Once again we see how Cashman is using all of the accumulated pitching talent to make the big lead team better now.

    Tremendous deal.

  1391. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    Does anyone trust Hughes, Kennedy, Ponson, Rasner to leas us anywhere. Hughes so far has been one of the biggest disappointments in MLB. He is avg at best in his starts and gets injured as much as Pavano.

  1392. ANSKY July 30th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Pudge could be a good insurance policy until Posada can (or can’t) catch next year.

    If Posada can’t catch (actually, throw) you keep Pudge and move Posada to DH/1B. He may not be ab all-star at 1B but he could be adequate. Probably better on D what the Yanks have put out there since Mientkiewicz left.

    If Posada can throw again and it gets crowded behind the plate, you trade Pudge.

    Either way you keep Molina as his/their backup.

  1393. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    Washburn is better than Hughes, Kennedy, Rasner, and Ponson. A catcher for 2 months, LOL.

  1394. Buzz ( Joba for Rookie of the Year ) July 30th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    “Come on Cash, get a pitcher. Moose, Kennedy, Hughes aren’t going to lead us anywhere………….”

    If we cant get pitching why not boost the offense and win that way, that is how we won last year

  1395. Anthony July 30th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Look, if you are complaining about this deal, you need to wake up. You don’t not make moves to address some needs simply because you aren’t addressing all needs at the exact same time. Pudge gives us a very good righty batter (and incredible defense) in what was an offensive black hole in our lineup without Posada. If Matsui comes back, that makes our lineup once again the deepest around with Melky out of the order.

    Hopefully we will get some pitching, but we’ve still got Pettitte, Moose, and Joba, and Rasner really didn’t do so badly last night at all. Ponson won’t be facing the Red Sox every time out. Washburn or Paul Byrd would be nice instead of Sid, but this is a great trade for us, no mistake about it.

  1396. Jeter's Future Wife July 30th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Pudge under contract til end of 2009 season

  1397. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    Oh well, talk later. Good win today for Yanks, but should have swept the O’s or won two out of three. They need to win 3 out of 4 against LA. If Rasner and Ponson pitch two games against LA, that is two loses there. So, Yanks going 2-2 against LA will be a feat for them.

  1398. Anthony July 30th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Sherry, go sip yourself and get back to watching your New Englanders lose to the Angels.

  1399. sherry July 30th, 2008 at 5:05 pm

    IF the Yanks don’t get another pitcher, watch how the rest of the season will turn out. Yanks will be about the 5th or 6th best team in the AL. Pudge won’t make as much as a difference than a pitcher would at this point.

  1400. Jeter's Future Wife July 30th, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    they still are playing chicken with Washburn…since Rasner pitched well yesterday, it hurts the Mariners, they were banking on him not pitching well, making Yanks more desparate for Washburn and then in turn giving up B. Gardner….but Ras came thru and pitched well (save the Nady mess!)

  1401. Tom Gaffney July 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    Raymagnetic,

    In what universe is 3.65 ERA and 1.35 WHIP dominating (in all caps, no less!)?? You don’t watch much baseball, do you?

  1402. Buzz ( Joba for Rookie of the Year ) July 30th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    sherry,

    are u jealous that you guys have tek who bats .200 and we got a .300 hitting catcher and he can throw?

  1403. Andrew July 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    It’s funny, Cashman’s quote when asked if Melancon could be in the majors this year was something like “I wouldn’t rule it out completely” and I thought that was fishy considering how he left the door open, even though all you heard about was innings limits and not rushing him, etc.

    Now, the door seems wide open considering he’s moving up and Farnsworth is out. If he pitches in Scranton like he had been in Trenton, I think we’ll see him this year.

  1404. Ron (President of the Wilson Betemit Fan Club) July 30th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Melancon’s got to be knocking on the door to his innings limit. He’s around 75 for the year.

    IPK is making his case for another shot. If Ponson gets conked around again, unless Washburn is acquired, he’s the next in line.

    IPK will be a reliable pitcher. The similiarities to Paul Byrd are pretty eerie. And I’d take a young Paul Byrd.

  1405. Anthony July 30th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    JB Cox and Bruney are also sitting down there, I would assume Bruney will come compete with Veras and Marte for Farns’s spot.

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