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Yanks get Pudge for Farnsworth

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Peter asked me to post this for him.

The Yankees have traded Kyle Farnsworth for Pudge Rodriguez.

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373 Responses to “Yanks get Pudge for Farnsworth”

  1. Marc July 30th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

    Worst trade ever.

  2. BBFan July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    We have to see how it will work out.
    Now that Kyle is gone, interesting to see how the bullpen shapes up.

  3. melissa(I love Cano) July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Marc I second that

  4. number18 July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    i cannot stand farnsworth!!!!! thaaaaaaaank you brian!

  5. allsta2003 July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    i love it

  6. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Now just get rid of Betemit and Ponson and the roster will be set.

    They can start be calling up Cody Ransom to take over as the UIF

  7. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    best trade ever. our bullpen has enough depth.

  8. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    best trade ever. our bullpen has enough depth.

  9. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    best trade ever. our bullpen has enough depth.

  10. 2008 Yankees July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    GOOD trade…..can’t trust Farnsworth in a BIG spot and Irod still still catch!

  11. 2008 Yankees July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    GOOD trade…..can’t trust Farnsworth in a BIG spot and Irod can still catch!

  12. eric in queens July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Strange trade. The Yankee bullpen finally looks good. It’s deep but I don’t quite understand messing with it at this point.

  13. Joe DeRosa July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Wow! This is shocking.

  14. fridayjones July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    This is a GREAT trade.

    Why in the world would the Tigers do this?

  15. Slick July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Nice job pulling this off Espn Pete.

    What did Buster Olney ever do to break all these stories?

  16. jettman July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Not a bad trade. Dude’s hitting almost .300 and he’s nasty defensively. Molina’s great behind the plate but he was dragging down the bottom of the lineup. As good as Farnsy’s been, he’s not too much better than the other bullpen options we have and we have a bunch of quality arms, especially if Bruney comes back or if IPK fills in for someone.

  17. jon July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    WHAAAAT?

    I mean, Crazy Kyle never inspired confidence in anyone…but we have a catcher…for 3 more years. Unless he’s a full time 1B now. Does he hit for enough power to play first? Does he WANT to play first? How long is Pudge on the hook for? Questions, questions, questions.

  18. dan July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Wow thats really crazy, that is a stealth acquisition by the Cash Man…..no one and I mean NO ONE was reporting that anywhere

    Tremendous faith now needed in Edwar, Jose Veras, Dave Robertson, and Damaso Marte

    Wow I am shocked no one saw that one coming

  19. Stephen July 30th, 2008 at 4:38 pm

    Why would anyone want Kyle? But hey, best trade ever!

  20. george July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    selling high on Farnsworth to patch a hole. i like it.

  21. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    Now we have two former steroid users on the team. Great.

    Not sure what I think yet. I feel bad for Molina because I think he was looking forward to being the first string catcher. Unfortunately, Jose just can’t hit.

    My guess is Moeller is history. We need someone in the bullpen; not sure if we are doing a deal or will promote someone from AAA.

    I have to hand it to Cashman. He never fails to surprise me.

  22. Brett July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    how is this a bad move on any level. marte immediately make farnsworth expendable while Pudge is a massive upgrade from Chad Moeller.

  23. BBFan July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    Interesting to see who will be called up to replace Kyle. Britton?

  24. migames July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    type A free agent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. UtilityMan July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm

    A W E S O M E !!!!!!

  26. Evan July 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    He is hitting .353 in the last month…

  27. Yankee Jay July 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    Whoa, didn’t see that one coming?

  28. Aaron July 30th, 2008 at 4:40 pm

    u gotta remember that, bruney is coming back too, and maybe cashman has another trade up his sleeve.

  29. back bench July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    Guess the ‘management’ didn’t think Jose could hold up for the whole season at this rate. Two good catchers at stopping the run.

    What about David Eckstein? He is a real scrapper, and would help the RISP problem IMO. He’s sitting on the bench in Toronto, and after the fabulous series they just had against the Rays, they ought to be sellers.

    Our OF now should also be Abreu, Damon/Christian and Nady. Sit Melky. He really needs the rest.

  30. Scott July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    This is a strange trade. I mean Molina can’t hit, but Pudge isn’t exactly great either. It’s an upgrade over Moehller though. Last year I would have been fine with this, actually I would have been fine if they traded Farnsworth for some bags of that speedy dry stuff they use, but he’s been very good this year. Strange.

    Scott F

  31. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    Pudge is a free agent after this season. If Posada doesn’t heal as quickly as planned, they can look at signing Pudge to a one year deal. Lots of options.

  32. Chris N. July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    Is Pudge under contract beyond this year? If not, then its a fine trade. Maybe improves the lineup and probably doesn’t hurt the pen that much. And you have a defensive presence all the time.

  33. miggs (NO to Teixeira) (Please ban the Hair Dresser) July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    how long is he signed for?

  34. Kevin July 30th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    Did not see this coming as well…was shocked to hear the news just now.

  35. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Losing Farnsworth hurts, but Pudge’s bat could be extremely beneficial.

    Hitting .290 >>> hitting .227.

    I love Molina, and I’ve made the case for him as one of the team’s most valuable players, but you can’t have two near automatic outs at the bottom of the line up.

  36. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache) July 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    great trade. No prospects spent. veras can take the eight. edwar the 7th. Nobody saw that coming. brilliant trade by cash. He traded farnsworth at the highest value, plus we can spare him

  37. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Girardi is near tears. He really liked Kyle.

  38. Doug July 30th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    Bruney will be up VERY soon

  39. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    “Our OF now should also be Abreu, Damon/Christian and Nady. Sit Melky. He really needs the rest.”

    Abreu has been really bad defensively this season and Damon can’t play CF. Do you really want that outfield configuration?

  40. jay destro July 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    man who is pete gonna pick on now?

  41. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    great trade.. upgrade the offense and the pen is fine.. Maybe Melancon ill be joining us!!!!!!!!!

    I wanted and thought maybe it could happen and it did. .WOW….Molina is the backup and Pudge is the starter.. udge is not great any more but he is a huge upgrade and he can play D..

    Bruney may be brought up now…

    2 expiring ontracts pudge is a rental but Kyle was not coming back.

    Cahman does it again good good trade…

  42. Marc July 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Our bullpen was good for a week and suddenly people start saying we are set? Edwar and Veras could start sucking at any time. Besides, Molina was hitting a little bit better and he is the best defensive catcher in the league. Farnsworth gave the Yankees a third strong middle relief guy who could help them if he kept on pitching how he was.

  43. Timmy Lupus July 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    Pudge hit .392 .485 .333 in June, and he’s hitting
    .397 .469 .359 in July. I love Jose, but I’ll take that any day of the week.

  44. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    You have to love how Kyle’s value went up so much this year.

  45. JoeT 28 in 09!! Pitch PAVANO until his arm falls off!! (over/under 3 innings) July 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    we definitely have the best defensive catchers in the league

  46. MikeEff July 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    chris — i’m pretty sure that pudge is a FA after this year- if i recall the tigers gave him a one year deal this year

  47. djsunyc July 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    could also indicate another deal is on the way…

  48. Tank July 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    You guys are all missing the best part of the trade.

    We finally have room for Britton, the innings eater.

  49. steve July 30th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    pudge has a club option for 13 million next year. we could pull a gary sheffield and trade him at the end of the season. I like the trade…i think its ones of those rare trades that helps two good teams immediately.

  50. YanksFanLV July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    dang, didn’t see this coming.. Not a bad idea to patch the whole, I like it.

  51. K July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Pudge is in his free agent year. Which means once this year is done. He leaves and Yanks get a type A pick. Cashman is the man.

  52. trisha - still supporting Farnsy like crazy! July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Hey! What the?????

    Thank you Kyle for all that you did to help the Yankees.

    Still you can push me over with a feather, not so much on the part about trading Kyle as much as with getting Pudge!!!

    I seriously don’t get it unless they now want to be able to use Moeller as a utlity infielder since we only have one. Unless, of course, we are getting Washburn and then we won’t need a personal catcher for Rasner…

    I hate trying to figure things out. That’s why I end up totally having faith that the organization knows more than any of us and this won’t be any exception.

    Guess I need to change my tagline.

    :(

  53. Jeremy July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    what am i going to do with my anybody but farnsworth tshirt now???

  54. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Clowns Damon cannot play CF… Yo uare stuck with Melky for the whole season, deal with it…….

  55. DV July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    anyone that says this is not a great trade needs to check into the looney ward right now and do us all a favor and not come back here until you feel better….WAY TO GO, CASHMAN ! he is Definitely going to be the GM for many years to come, ALL ! ;-)

  56. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Why would anyone in their right mind like this move?

    This is a terrible trade for the Yankees.

    You gave up a reliever who has DOMINATED other than one game in Fenway park. DOMINATED.

    He has been lights out for the last 2 months and stabilized the bullpen with Joba out. For what? An aging, over the hill Catcher. What a horrible trade.

    Pudge has no power any more and even though he’s hitting .300 has a .330 obp! His skills have eroded greatly lately and lest we forget, Molina has been OUTSTANDING behind the plate and called a great game AND shut down the running game. We didn’t need Pudge and we still don’t with Posada out.

    On the other hand, we gave up a good reliever. This is not selling high, this is caving into the fans and not thinking. Farnsworth has been one of our best relievers this year, and Bruney is not healthy yet. His velocity is down and his control is off. Unless they’re bringing up Melancon and expecting him to be lights out, this is a very questionable move that could hurt them down the stretch.

  57. AeroFANatic July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Bullpen will be :

    Rivera
    Marte
    Veras
    Ramierez
    Bruney
    Robertson
    Giese

    Marte and Veras will be your 8th inning guys, Ramierez and Bruney your 7th and Robertson as a 6/7/8 guy and Giese long man.

    No Melancon or Cox this year, provided there are no injuries.

  58. Dman July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    The Tigers dont know what there doing, half the reason the Tigers are still a little bit in it is because of IRod, Dave Drombrowski is an idiot

  59. Joe Monte July 30th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    Too bad Mad Dog and Fat Man are not on the radio right now.

  60. jake July 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    WOW.
    A “stealth trade,” indeed.
    No one saw this coming.
    Pudge hasn’t been the same at the plate since he stopped using steroids, but he’s still a good overall player. I wouldn’t say he’s a better catcher than Molina at this point in time but he’s still a damned good catcher and MUCH better with the bat than Molina, even now, at age 36 and with his power numbers “unenhanced.”
    What a great move by Cashman. Farnsworth is gone and Moeller gets replaced by Pudge Rodriguez for the rest of this season. And the Yanks will pick up a prospect if they don’t re-sign Pudge in the off-season.
    Sweet.

  61. Gus G. July 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Wow- Didn’t see this trade coming in a million years.

  62. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    “Our bullpen was good for a week and suddenly people start saying we are set? Edwar and Veras could start sucking at any time.”

    Couldn’t this have happened even if Kyle Farnsworth had stayed? Marte will basically be the 8th inning guy and you have Veras, Edwar, and Robertson plus whoever they call up for the 6th and 7th innings. Sounds like a go to me.

  63. Keith July 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Who art thou Jeff Marx?

  64. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Honestly? I see them trading Farnsworth as a way to make room for Melancon.

    That said, Farnsworth had been pitching really really well of late.

  65. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    And on top of that, you strengthened another contending team’s bullpen. WHY? YOu hurt your team, and help the other. A stupid move all around.

  66. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    GI Joe was selling that love for Kyle even went near water works..my goodness what was Detroit thinking ! TYPE A FA ! TYPE A !

  67. hornblower July 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Sell high. Farnesworth will never be worth more.

  68. PBL July 30th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    pudge has had postseason success too, i think it makes sense, especially with pudge’s contract up after the season. do you think we’ll get the same draft picks in response for pudge as farnsworth? i’d guess we will

  69. Glenn July 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Does this open the door for Mark Melancon ? Cashman should have thrown in Betemit as a bonus.
    So long Chad Moeller …..

  70. k July 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    WOW.

    I’m reading 3 other Yankee blogs and everyone is ecstatic, why am I surprised that the pack of retards on here don’t approve of this trade? Farnsworth sucks; Pudge is a Type A FA after this season. His OPS+ is = to Jeter’s. Shut up.

  71. stuart July 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Marc come down the Yanks have more good arms in AAA.. bruney, melancon, cox, strickland etc..

    the pen should be fine, they replaced kyle with marte and kept the rest of the pen, at worst that is a lateral move….

  72. E-Man July 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Unreal.. I have a hard time believing this trade. Is that all we gave up?

  73. eric July 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    Good deal. Kyle is an he’s a FA at the end of the yr. Veras/Edwar/Robertson/Marte should be enough. we cant have a .220 bat in the lineup with 0 power. same d, better bat.

  74. flash July 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    damn i wanted salty

  75. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    it’s ok GI Joe you’ll develope love for Brunney and Melancon soon.

  76. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    FridayJones, they have Inge doing most of the catching for Detroit.

  77. TIME 4#27 July 30th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Bad deal.

  78. rconn23 July 30th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    How can anyone see this as a bad thing?

    Three rules in life. Don’t tug on Superman’s cape. Don’t spit in the wind. And don’t ever, ever trust Kyle Farnsworth in a big spot. He is the definition of Fool’s Gold.

    Pudge is a Type A free agent. You let him go at the end of the season and get picks. He’s hitting almost .300 right now, and is certainly not the automatic out that Molina is.

    There was NO WAY the Yankees were ever to going to resign Farnsworth. This is a no-brainer and a great move by Cashman.

  79. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    “Why would anyone in their right mind like this move?

    This is a terrible trade for the Yankees.

    You gave up a reliever who has DOMINATED other than one game in Fenway park. DOMINATED.

    He has been lights out for the last 2 months and stabilized the bullpen with Joba out. For what? An aging, over the hill Catcher. What a horrible trade.

    Pudge has no power any more and even though he’s hitting .300 has a .330 obp! His skills have eroded greatly lately and lest we forget, Molina has been OUTSTANDING behind the plate and called a great game AND shut down the running game. We didn’t need Pudge and we still don’t with Posada out.”

    Pudge > Molina, no? Farnsworth is very Jekyl and Hyde or have you not seen him in the 3 years he’s been on the team. My question is how could you NOT like this trade?

  80. Laura - Every game is a must win game! July 30th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Kay is saying the Yankees made this move out of fear that Molina could get hurt and then they’d be screwed.

  81. Michael T July 30th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    IRod is not all that great offensively with a .338 OBP and .417 SLG, almost dead on top of league average with an OPS+ of 101. But consider that he will be taking at bats from Jose Molina (.279 OBP/.307 SLG) without sacrificing D and this is a huge upgrade. Jose Molin has an OPS+ of 58! That differential is the same difference as replacing Melky with Carlos Beltran. And IRod is not under contract beyond this year.

  82. RustyJohn July 30th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Wow, amazing how so many people on here suddenly become Farnsworth lovers. Farnsie was never consistent (thank you, Joe Morgan) or reliable. He was a free agent at the end of the year, Rodriguez is a free agent at the end of the year, so this is an awesome trade. The Yanks have Bruney and Britton available- great move.

    To paraphrase Wall Street (“And now you know why they call him ‘Gecko the Great’…”), and now you know why they call him ‘Cash Money’

  83. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    I don’t care how well Farnsworth pitched lately, bottom line is he cannot be trusted.

  84. back bench July 30th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    Ray..

    Nady said he could work CF in an interview a few days ago.

    Getting Pudge makes the bottom 3 in the lineup a little more difficult for opposing pitchers. Getting Melky out of the line up for a few games using the assets we have makes it even more so for no cost.

    So yes, I’ld try it at least. We can’t have 3 straight outs at the bottom of the line up and expect to make a move this year.

  85. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up) July 30th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    WOOOOOW

  86. stf July 30th, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    “Worst trade ever.”

    You just plain stupid, Marc.

    Good trade.

  87. nicole July 30th, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    farnsworth was near tears as well. i’d cry if i had to go to detroit too though.

  88. Timmy Lupus July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Farns sounded genuinely upset about the trade. Voice broke up a bit on the post game.

  89. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    I dont like this trade. the Bullpen had their roles set and now putting veras in 8th inning scares me.

    They got pudge about 4 years to late.

  90. Marc July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    We shall see.

  91. bphill July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    :-(, I’ll miss you Kyle.

  92. Russell W July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    How the hell can you argue this is a bad trade? Girardi built up Farnsworth’s value enough to get a started to replace Jorge at catcher. Farnsworth sucks and can’t be trusted in big spots. Plus, we got Marte, Robertson, Ramirez and Melancon was just promoted. We have enough depth in the bullpen. I LOVE THIS MOVE!!!!!

  93. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    farnsworth crying, he wants to be a Yankee

  94. Catherine July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    Farnsworth teary eyed on YES…

    must be a bummer to be pitching well and have the team playing better to be dealt, I feel bad for the guy. Pudge? Wasn’t expecting that…

  95. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    i hate this deal!

  96. Mark Alan July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    It just makes Cashman sense to trade one of the recent stars of a solid bullpen, a man who can throw a ball through a brick wall, for an aging catcher unwanted be the barely .500 Tigers.

    If JoeG will let Marte throw to players at both sides of the plate, it won’t matter. They can purchase Pudge a walker, and everything will be fine.

  97. letter10 July 30th, 2008 at 4:51 pm

    wow…kind of a crazy deal but it just might work. you have to love pudge’s competitiveness and the guy knows how to win. hard to knock those qualities. hope he has a few months of pop left in him!

  98. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    raymagnetic: thank you, for not being the GM.

  99. ohgodno July 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    Pudge Strikes out way too much. Molina is the man with the staff, watch as the pitching staff crumbles.

  100. flash July 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    krazy kyle was crying hahahahahahaha

  101. Ryan July 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    “I mean, Crazy Kyle never inspired confidence in anyone…but we have a catcher…for 3 more years. Unless he’s a full time 1B now. Does he hit for enough power to play first? Does he WANT to play first? How long is Pudge on the hook for? Questions, questions, questions.”

    Pudge is in the last year of his deal – having signed Posada to 3 years is insignificant considering he is out for the season.

  102. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    This is a great move, despite what some nitwits might say. Farnsworth has had a good stretch lately but to say he’s dominated this year is a real reach. He’s given up 10 home runs this year and he can’t pitch on back to back days. Molina’s OBP is 280 so I’ll take the 50 point increase in Pudge’s 330.

    And for everyone else, Pudge is in a walk year = 2 draft picks. YAY!

  103. Mark Melancon July 30th, 2008 at 4:52 pm

    I’ll be you seeing you guys soon

  104. John July 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    I think this trade is most important because out three of our biggest rivals and potential playoff opponents in the AL have big time running games and I don’t think Molina can handle the full load.

    Angels
    Boston (with Ellsbury getting on and running their offense is unstoppable, Boston started losing when Jacoby went into a slump…I know he’s killing my fantasy team right now)
    Tampa Bay

    TRY RUNNING ON THE YANKS NOW.

  105. Phil July 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Brilliant trades, selling high on Farnsworth and adding a better catcher to the mix. And he’s probably more likely to be an A type FA than Kyle was. The farm is protected. The Pen can now add Melancon, Bruney, Cox or Britton whenever they want to. This is just outstanding.

  106. Kermit July 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Bye bye Professor Farnsworth!

  107. Chris July 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    As said many times before, Brian Cashman is a stealth operator that never tips his hand.
    One never knows what he has up his sleeve.

  108. americanbear July 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    Great trade, for all the reasons mentioned above. Total no-brainer.

  109. stet July 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    farnsy was getting better and i think he worked pretty hard.. but i agree that he’s unreliable and have two handcannons (pudge and jose) behind the plate plus an offensive upgrade is good. he’s not the pudge of olde, but he’s still the pudge. anyone see kyle’s postgame? it made me feel bad for all the times i booed him..

  110. Onkel Bob July 30th, 2008 at 4:53 pm

    From Yahoo! Sports Team Page:
    “The odds of Detroit making a move before the trade deadline aren’t very high, but if it happens, look for the Tigers to add a veteran relief pitcher who throws strikes.”

    Oh Farnsworth throws strikes alright, right down the middle of the plate!

  111. pat July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Wow. Very emotional clubhouse. I feel bad for Kyle.

  112. Will to the M July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Getting Marte sealed KK’s fate. But I worry about the Vera/Edwar combo come Sept/Oct. Edwar’s change isn’t as effective then, no?

    Any chance of keeping Pudge on to platoon with molina next yr., moving Jorge to 1B (meaning Big G is gone)?

  113. SouthernYank July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Is Cashman pulling a Billy Beane and getting value out of Farnsworth at his peak? A short peak that is.

  114. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5) July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    not to mention. The type A picks we receive, when I-Rod walks, at end of year.

    thank you, Cashmoney.

  115. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Michael: Well said.

    Not to mention, Molina’s never caught a full season and the last thing the Yankees need is Molina to break down.

    This deal isn’t a steal like the Nady/Marte one, so it doesn’t seem like such a good thing.

    But Farnsworth’s history with the Yankees says that right now we are selling high on him. Yeah, I eel bad ffor him because he’s been so great for us this year.

    But, honestly? It will take a lot for Detroit to make the playoffs: they’re trailing both the ChiSox and Twins in their own division, and Boston/NYY in the Wild Card. Kyle Farnsworth isn’t going to help their starting rotation one bit.

    So we lose our ability to take down someone in a brawl.

    We get another hitter and at the end of the year a class A free agent.

    I can live with that.

  116. trisha - still supporting Farnsy like crazy! July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    “I’m reading 3 other Yankee blogs and everyone is ecstatic, why am I surprised that the pack of retards on here don’t approve of this trade? Farnsworth sucks; Pudge is a Type A FA after this season. His OPS+ is = to Jeter’s. Shut up.”

    This post is beyond offensive. There are posters here, I included, who obviously were really pleased with the way Farnsworth had turned things around. I don’t agree with the posters who are thrilled to see him go, but I would never refer to them as a pack of retards.

    It is obvious that not everyone here sees things the same way as everyone else, but it doesn’t make their opinions any less valid.

  117. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    “And on top of that, you strengthened another contending team’s bullpen. WHY? YOu hurt your team, and help the other. A stupid move all around.”

    Big game, Farnsworth will not frighten me. At all. I was saying it during the Fenway series. For as well as he’d been pitching, you still couldn’t trust him. Bring him on.

    This is shaping up to be Cashman’s best trade deadline period. He’s given this team a major boost, set them up to receive premium draft picks down the road, and he gave up next to nothing.

  118. 86w183 July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Matt—- Farsnie had ten terrific outings in a row.. it was a great stretch but it is an aberration when you look at his career as a whole and his Yankees career in particular.

    He’s given up 11 HR in 44 innings this year.. ELEVEN!!! The guy is walking time bomb and I for one am thrilled he’s ticking for the Tigers now.

    This is another move that addresses a terrible weakness… offense from behind the plate. It also helps with offense vs LHP… a two-fer.

    Bring on Washburn and make a run!

  119. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    Replace Farnsworth with Scott Strickland he’s been awesome in Triple A!

  120. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    I love Pete, but he was dead wrong on this. He kept dismissing the Yankees looking for a catcher.

  121. Doreen July 30th, 2008 at 4:54 pm

    I’m just totally shocked. Never in a million years did I see this one coming. Farnsworth had really settled in and the bullpen was clicking (except for the last couple of games).

    They did need another quality catcher, because Molina is not an everyday catcher. We’ll see, I guess.

    Brian Cashman, Stealth GM.

  122. fridayjones July 30th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    I don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t love this trade. The bottom third of our lineup was killing this team. You can’t tell me that having IRod batting 7th isn’t worth more than a set up man who can’t pitch on consecutive days.

    And I don’t think this move has anything to do w/ Melancon. Trading Farnsworth opens a spot for Bruney. Not Britton either.

    I’m still hoping for an arm to replace Rasner in the rotation. I think they should leave IPK and Hughes in the minors and let them start fresh next season.

  123. YankeeJosh July 30th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    The question is which is better, the Yankees with Molina catching almost every day, Moeller as the back-up and Farnsy in the pen or the Yankees with Pudge starting, Molina backing up, and Bruney or whoever replacing Farnsy in the pem. Time will tell.

  124. Ninja Burglar July 30th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    Helloooooooooooo Cashman haters!!!
    Right handed corner outfielder/1st basman: check
    Left handed reliever: check
    Catcher: check
    Back end starter: TBD

  125. migames July 30th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    pudge is a type A free agent, we get 2 draft picks out of this trade plus pudge > molina….

  126. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    “TRY RUNNING ON THE YANKS NOW.”

    They’re not running on our starter or on our backup. We have the best defensive combo in the game, and Pudge can still hit.

  127. flash July 30th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    its a good trade but i think it would of been better if they would of gotten salty or teagarden, because its not automatic that posada will comeback like he was before and i dont think montero will stay a catcher.

  128. MoBoy(aka McLovin) July 30th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    Wow see I knew Cash had something out there.I still don’t trust Veras and Edwar but Kyle was no better.

    Get Washburn,Trade LaTroy to Twins and lets get ready for the Angels.

  129. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 4:55 pm

    Seriously people do not fall for the tears, look I like Kyle too as a person but he was FA after this season and lets be honest this month could just be this month…Farnsy is as inconsistant as can be. Ivan can hit, can field, can hold the running game and is a TYPE A FA after this year meaning sandwhich picks early round pick.

    I’ll miss Farnsy as a person but as a SU man I wish him luck.

  130. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    “Ray..

    Nady said he could work CF in an interview a few days ago.

    Getting Pudge makes the bottom 3 in the lineup a little more difficult for opposing pitchers. Getting Melky out of the line up for a few games using the assets we have makes it even more so for no cost.”

    Back bench,

    I don’t believe Nady is good enough defensively to play CF. Right now Melky hasn’t hit but he’s a very good defender in CF which isn’t really a prime offensive position anyway. Right now you can live with Melky in CF because with Pudge in there you’re not giving away at bats in the 8 AND 9 hole anymore. Melky can go back to hitting 9th and Pudge can hit 7th or 8th. Teams can live with 1 bad bat in the lineup. Teams have won WS with players worse than Melky playing everyday.

  131. TGFizeek July 30th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Where do these people come from? “Losing Farnsworth hurts”?!?!
    Brilliant trade, no secret the Yankees have always loved Pudge. The guy has been clutch in the past, hopefully pulling him out of Detroit will give him something to play for.
    Not to mention we get rid of Farnsworth before he inevitably blows game 2 of our first round playoff series in such a demoralizing way we don’t come back.
    The bullpen is crazy deep but there are still farmhands who could help out so don’t cry for losing an 8th inning guy and addressing the last hole in the lineup!!!

    Does this pressure Seattle to do the Washburn deal (we seem less desparate now)? I really hope so, but think not.

  132. pat July 30th, 2008 at 4:56 pm

    Cot’s has Pudge as signed through 2008. He’s just a rental.

  133. saucY July 30th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    did Piazza officially retire?

  134. Russell W July 30th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    “Is Cashman pulling a Billy Beane and getting value out of Farnsworth at his peak? A short peak that is.”

    YES!!!!! Ivan Rodriguez > Jason Varitek!!!!

  135. djsunyc July 30th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    what, all of the sudden everybody loves kyle farnsworth? too funny…

  136. MoBoy(aka McLovin) July 30th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

    Two Puerto Rican Catchers.Can’t beat that.Good trade.

  137. Nud July 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    For the Yanks to get 2 draft picks they first have to offer Pudge arbitration. Could be a risk if they think there is a chance he will accept it. The Yanks arent going to pay 2 catchers 25 million dollars next year.

  138. pcgpm July 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    What about replacing Farnsworth with S. Jackson. He has been pretty good for the last month or so.

  139. al arodien July 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    who are you posting for peter?!

  140. Skippy July 30th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

    I feel a lot better about this knowing that Pudge’s contract expires this year. I wonder if this is an indicator that they feel really confident in bringing up Melancon soon?

  141. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster) July 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    I suspect this spells the end of Chad Moeller.

  142. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    People need to get over this Scott Strickland love affair. He’s never been this good, before, so no reason to think he’s suddenly a stud relief pitcher. You’re more likely to get Jim Brower than Edwar Ramirez or Jse Veras.

  143. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    It’s amazing. The Yankees gave up no minor leaguers, just a guy who wasn’t going be here next year anyway and were dealing from a position of depth and people still complain

  144. Chas July 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    I feel bad for Kyle. It seems like he was very well-liked by his teammates. Just maybe he found a way to be reliable?

    Getting Pudge patches a big hole the Yankees need to overcome a team like the Angels. Arm + Bat.

  145. Russell W July 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    “what, all of the sudden everybody loves kyle farnsworth? too funny…”

    Those are the trolls who just got dumbfounded.

  146. douche July 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    NOOOOO what am i going to do with my farnsworth jersey?!

  147. Skippy July 30th, 2008 at 4:59 pm

    btw, who are you, Jeff Marx?

  148. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Great trade in my opinion. Pudge will be a type A. Also, in all likelyhood Moeller will be demoted to AAA and Bruney will be recalled.

  149. Neil July 30th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    SEE YA LATER FARNSY

  150. Heinz July 30th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    This is a great trade. You deal an arm that eats maybe 1 inning a game and get a solid, type A starting catcher. Who cares if Farns has been lights out lately? An everyday catcher is more important than 1/8 of the bullpen.

    Like it or not, the Tigers have picked up the league’s best Big Buck Hunter player (gonna miss that, Pete).

  151. back bench July 30th, 2008 at 5:00 pm

    Pudge can also play 1st when Jose is catching, so doesn’t this make Sexon redundant, and make other options possible?

  152. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    “Ivan Rodriguez > Jason Varitek”

    Sal Fasano > Jason Varitek at this point.

    Another big aspect of this assuming (and the chances have gone up significantly) that we make the playoffs: Pudge has a great postseason history. I’d much rather have him at the plate in a big playoff spot than Farnsworth on the mound.

  153. JR Yankees July 30th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    I don’t have time to read through all of the above posts, but apparently Farnsworth was very torn up about being traded. He felt like he had finally put it together to be a dependable 8th inning guy.

    Overall, everything that has been done trade-wise is pointing to us going for it this year. However, we still desperately need a 4/5th starter immediately.

    Now, unfortunately Moeller needs to be DFA’ed and hopefully picked back up assuming nobody picks him off of waivers and then sent to AAA. Then we need another bullpen arm to replace Farnsy and another starter to replace Ponson and then you cannot ask for anything more than that.

  154. The Dude July 30th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    Fickle Yankees fans are pissed because they just got rid of the oft-hated Kyle Farnsworth for a guy who is both an immediate upgrade behind the plate and a source of draft pick compensation when they let him go after the season ends.

    Don’t discount a trade for another bullpen arm, either.

  155. george July 30th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    well, the combo of this trade and the Nady one is better for the overall roster than getting Bonds. i was definitely wrong to go crazy about Bonds: the team is much better w/Pudge as a Posada replacement and a decent righty OF.

    now there is some depth.

  156. Baja July 30th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    eh, its a push. Krazy Kyle is going to implode at some point sooner rather than later, and Pudge is (to be polite) in the twilight of his career.

  157. Chief July 30th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    Although Farnsy was having a good season, you just can not trust him in a big spot. Look at last weekend vs. Boston when Mo had to come in the game during the 8th to clean up his mess. And Molina just is not a good hitter. Pudge is a better overall upgrade over Molina. He hits better and is still a great defensive catcher with a great arm. Good trade!

  158. YankeeVIP July 30th, 2008 at 5:02 pm

    hahah.. its amazing how everyone forgets we CANNOT STAND KYLE.

    everyone that is disappointed by this trade is either not a yankee fan or doesnt understand baseball.

  159. fridayjones July 30th, 2008 at 5:03 pm

    If IRod plays well and the Yankees make a serious post-season run, why wouldn’t they offer him arbitration? We all know that there is a ton of money coming off the payroll next season.

    And let’s be serious: as much as Posada may have his pride and want to catch, it’s a stretch to think he’ll be 100% by April next year. Giambi will be gone. What’s wrong w/ having Posada as the starting 1B? I’ll bank on him being able to hit next year. I’m guessing this is where they’re going with this.

  160. Jorge Tabata July 30th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    How is Pudge’s game-calling abilities? I know he is a good defensive catcher but what about his game-calling?

  161. Chris N. July 30th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    I agree with Baja. It wilil be nice to have Pudge in the lineup instead of Molina most days but it is generally sort of a wash in terms of overall impact/significance.

  162. ellen July 30th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Outstanding! Yanks win 13-3 and this news is the icing on the cake.

  163. yankee2123 July 30th, 2008 at 5:04 pm

    Look for Yanks to announce Washburn trade any time now. That will move Rasner into the pen as a long man. Ponson is out once Kennedy returns.

  164. pat July 30th, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    Cashman on Yes. He’s very emotional too.

  165. yankee2123 July 30th, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    The Boston game sealed Farnsworth’s fate. As good as he’s been, when he had to come up in a big spot he blew it, and Mo had to come in and save his sorry arse.

  166. Furnotye July 30th, 2008 at 5:06 pm

    Another PED abuser ? No thanks. Why are we collecting these guys ?

  167. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pm

    People need to get over this Scott Strickland love affair. He’s never been this good, before, so no reason to think he’s suddenly a stud relief pitcher. You’re more likely to get Jim Brower than Edwar Ramirez or Jse Veras.

    Strickland is a decent middle reliever. His career numbers are very respectable and he would be a good middle and late inning option.
    3.34 career ERA and a 1.3 WHIP. He can step in for Farnsworth, Bruney is not ready yet and neither is Melacon.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....yerId=4150

  168. jake July 30th, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Laura – Every game is a must win game!
    July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
    Now we have two former steroid users on the team. Great..
    ——————————————————————

    The Yankees probably have more than two former steroid users on the team.
    But don’t fret, Laura. EVERY major league team has former steroid users, and probably more than two.

  169. ANSKY July 30th, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Pudge could be a good insurance policy until Posada can (or can’t) catch next year.

    If Posada can’t catch (actually, throw) you keep Pudge and move Posada to DH/1B. He may not be ab all-star at 1B but he could be adequate. Probably better on D what the Yanks have put out there since Mientkiewicz left.

    If Posada can throw again and it gets crowded behind the plate, you trade Pudge.

    Either way you keep Molina as his/their backup.

    Farnsworth, for all the struggles leading up to this summer, had actually been pretty good for several weeks. Limiting his use to an inning at a time, 2-3 times a week, seemed to make him more effective. He’d still have brain cramps here & there, but overall he wasn’t doing too bad recently.

    Chronic Cashman critics aside, the net overall gain at the trade deadline this year has been favorable. Maybe not optimally ideal, but favorable.

  170. Don Capone July 30th, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Maybe we could get Pudge Fisk for Farnsworth…

  171. pat July 30th, 2008 at 5:08 pm

    Cashman’s cell phone has gone off 4 times in 3 minutes.

  172. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    In fairness to Kyle in that Boston game last week, wasn’t one of those 2 hits he allowed an infield dribbler?

  173. NYY July 30th, 2008 at 5:09 pm

    But don’t the Yanks have to Offer Arbitration to to Pudge after the year to get the type A draft pick.

    So, the yanks have to decline the Option on Pudge and then Offer arbitration to get a draft pick.

  174. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Because of reinforcements we have in the minors (namely Kennedy), I’m not as firmly in the ‘get a starter’ camp as some folks are. But Cashman’s filled two bigs needs — an outfielder and a lefty reliever — plus this to offset the loss of Posada without any major sacrifices. If he brings in a back-end starter for nothing, it’s gravy. Wonderful week.

    If Epstein trades Manny, this will officially be the best trade deadline ever. :D

  175. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Farnsworth at least going to a contender and a team he played for just before going to the Braves. I’m not surprised that Detroit wanted Farnsworth, as Zumaya is hurt again, but I don’t think Farnsy will make enough of a difference for Detroit, and we have only 1 makeup game against Detroit.

    Brandon Inge now their catcher with a .220 average.

    Pudge is a FA, and does not have a club option. Future HOF, great defensive catcher, good speed, could bat near the top of the lineup.

    One Type B FA for a Type A FA, who the Yankees might resign.

    This is a smart move by the Yankees getting insurance at catcher, while giving up a bullpen arm, who finally after 31/2 years, and a 20M contract showed some moxie!! Farnsy wasn’t going to be resigned anyway!

  176. AeroFANatic July 30th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Damon, Jeter, Abreu, A-Rod, Giambi, Nady, Cano, Pudge, Melky

    Bench : Molina, Betemit, Sexson, Christian

    SP : Joba, Pettite, Mussina, Washburn, Kennedy
    BP : Rivera, Marte, Veras, Edwar, Robertson, Bruney, Rasner

    There is your remaining 2008 roster and lineup folks. If no Washburn, Rasner stays in and Giese stays up as long man.

  177. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    Wow. Cashman and Girardi are acting like they traded away Derek Jeter. Gimme a break.

  178. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    This is reading really far in, but if this is the end of Moeller, then does that have implications on Rasner and the search for a starting pitcher?

  179. jimmy27 July 30th, 2008 at 5:10 pm

    We already have a lead-off hitter!?!?

    great trade: Kyle (good luck) would never be fully trusted in the 8th despite his recent sucess.
    Pudge is Pudge

  180. miggs (NO to Teixeira) (Please ban the Hair Dresser) July 30th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    How anyone can dislike this trade is beyond me. We have a ton of great arms in the pen and Pudge will instanly make our lineup deeper and more formidable.

    I really don’t understand you guys. You complain for the sake of complaining.

    You should be applauding Cashman for another great move.

  181. RayBlay July 30th, 2008 at 5:11 pm

    I am SO po’ed right now. What a blow to the bullpen. Pudge is a jacka**
    Farnsworth has been more than solid. Wasn’t Detroit high on him a while ago, though? Like last year I think?
    Anyways, this sucks big time

  182. kd July 30th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    also, it won’t hurt giving up our pick if we sign a type a guy, like maybe CC? great job by the ever stealthy cashman

  183. LC July 30th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Wow. GREAT trade, but poor Kyle. was he really crying?

  184. Jeff July 30th, 2008 at 5:12 pm

    Great trade.

  185. Central CT Yankee July 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Ivan Rodriguez c
    4 years/$40M (2004-07), plus $13M 2008 club option

    * 04:$7M, 05:$8M, 06:$11M, 07:$11M, 08:$13M club option ($3M buyout)

  186. Tom Gaffney July 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    I hate to say I told you so, Mr. Abraham, but I told you so. I’m surprised you clung to the stance that Cashman wasn’t looking for catching help. Oh well, you’re right 95% of the time, and your blog is awesome.

    Whoever doesn’t like this trade is either a Tiger fan or a blithering nincompoop. This is KYLE FARNSWORTH we’re talking about here!! The human blown save. Are your memories really that short? Great job by Cashman and Girardi to get his value up and get rid of him. We traded a guy who’s AWFUL in the clutch for one of the renowned clutch hitters in baseball. Look at our RISP, folks. We NEED clutch guys. Pudge is one of those guys who actually raises his level of play in the playoffs and he fills a huge hole. I think he might be slightly better than Moeller, don’t you think, hmmmm?

  187. John in Ohio July 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    Farnsworth may end up as Detroit’s closer. Todd Jones was just taken out of the role.

  188. mel (47-1) July 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    I leave for two hours and all hell breaks loose.

    We score a ton of runs and we do a trade?

    Heard we got Pudge and Kyle was the first name that popped into my head. Sure enough, he’s gone

    Don’t know how I feel about it. Kyle was rehabilitated and Pudge has “shrunken” a bit. But we need a catcher.

    Best wishes to Krazy Kyle and welcome to Pudge. Can’t tease Pudge now that he’s in pinstripes.

    Go Angels!

  189. ZaWheelz July 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    did you see farnsworth in fenway? went back to his nornal self.

    whenever he is in during a pressure spot, he buckles.

    bye kyle!!

  190. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 5:13 pm

    I think Cashman’s tears were tears of joy.

  191. Ant928 July 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    I may be a bit late (and don’t know who Jeff Marx is) but it’s been posted on the Yankees site. It’s official!

  192. Bombshell July 30th, 2008 at 5:14 pm

    You really have to be retarded to disaprove of this trade…stop drinking the idiot juice some of you. Farnsworth’s stock will never be higher, we already have a deep ‘pen with Bruney/Melancon available soon if injuries or bad form hits someone in there, Farnsworth has been good lately but as that Sux game showed he gets nervous in huge spots. Meanwhile Pudge isn’t signed long term, he’s hit over .350 the last month and still has sick defense. Also the intangibles of winning it all before is there as well. Molina has always been a backup catcher in his career so he’ll be fine and now our lineup looks that much more deadly. Please think before you post morons.

  193. yankee2 July 30th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    hughes will take farnsworth spot in the bullpen for the rest of the season if the yanks were smart about it and bring up kennedy, pavano or sign garcia for the end of the rotation think about it like that maybe they’ll do something like that and it will work out in the favor. Now someone please tell me they don’t think Hughes would be great in a setup role for this year like Joba saves him inning and strain on his body for this year

  194. Glenn July 30th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    The Yankees do not face Detroit again this year. Kyle can still help the Yankees this weekend as the Tigers face the Rays.

  195. back bench July 30th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    “Look for Yanks to announce Washburn trade any time now. That will move Rasner into the pen as a long man. Ponson is out once Kennedy returns.”

    Sure looks like that is the plan. Lots of moves all linked together. Getting Pudge makes Mohler the odd man out, which breaks up the Rasner-Mohler battery (pretty good one, in retrospect), so Rasner gets demoted and Ponson….

    What about Eckstein though? He has 2 WS rings and is just the kind of warrior this team needs right now.

  196. AeroFANatic July 30th, 2008 at 5:15 pm


    Damon, Jeter, Abreu, A-Rod, Giambi, Nady, Cano, Pudge, Melky

    This should be the lineup on most days. L,R,L,R,L,R,L,R,L

    Does not get any harder than that.

  197. jake July 30th, 2008 at 5:15 pm

    tim boat
    July 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
    People need to get over this Scott Strickland love affair. He’s never been this good, before, so no reason to think he’s suddenly a stud relief pitcher. You’re more likely to get Jim Brower than Edwar Ramirez or Jse Veras.
    Strickland is a decent middle reliever. His career numbers are very respectable and he would be a good middle and late inning option.
    3.34 career ERA and a 1.3 WHIP. He can step in for Farnsworth, Bruney is not ready yet and neither is Melacon.
    ——————————————————————–
    The comment about people needing to “get over this Scott Strickland love affair” was directed at you, Tim.
    Strickland hasn’t had a decent major league season in SIX YEARS.
    And what makes you say that Mark Melancon is not ready, yet? He just hasn’t been called up, yet.
    You seem to think that Farnsworth was an important part of the bullpen. Have you watched any games over the past couple of seasons? Farnsworth has, except on a few occasions here and there, been BAD. His recent spate of competency has been nice, but hardly an indication that he’s become reliable. He’s given up 11 homeruns in 44 innings!!

  198. Matt July 30th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    We don’t need to DFA Moeller to activate Bruney, there’s only 39 people on the 40-man roster.

  199. RayBlay July 30th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Was Cashman really emotional? Anyone know where I can get video of that???

    I really hope the Yankees sign Farnsworth this off-season. I really started to love him toward the end of last year

  200. Mike July 30th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    YES! YES! YES! YES!
    Good riddance!

  201. luis July 30th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    really??? r u kiddin me:)

  202. ANSKY July 30th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    Still could make another trade for an arm. Not sure exactly what time the non-waiver cut-off is, but its still possible to pull something off afterwards.

    Still could have someone come up or come back later on too.

    Meantime if Ponson is good enough for the team to win in a little more than half his starts, that’s about what a 4th starter needs to accomplish. He got his but whupped last time out, but overall he’s been that kind of 4th starter so far. Would be nice to upgrade of course but its not like we have a AA-level guy going out there instead of him.

  203. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2008 at 5:16 pm

    NYY

    The arbitration deadline is 12:01AM on 12/02/08.
    To get the type A your player has to be in top 20% statistically for 2007 and 2008, compared to all catchers.

    Therefore, if Pudge signs before 12/02 with another team, we get 2 draft picks. Or, if he is offered arbitration and declines we get the draft picks.

    The 1st 15 draft picks are protected, so if le’t say KC, should finish as one of the worst 15 teams in the majors, we
    wouldn’t get their 1st pick but would get 2 sandwich picks.

  204. G. Love (*coined the term Prospect Hugger) July 30th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    Pretty stunned by this trade. Kyle had admittedly grown on me.

    My first thought upon hearing it is doesn’t this trade make Detroit better and why would we do that? If Kyle pitches as well as he did here this season in Detroit, it helps out their paper thin pen.

    I am definitely happy that we’ll have a legit offensive player behind the plate. I’m just stunned by this deal.

    Has Pudge’s defense really slipped or does he still have his gun?

  205. Bob(The Original) July 30th, 2008 at 5:17 pm

    Pudge isn’t anywhere near the player he used to be.

    But the Yanks needed to do something. He is an upgrade over Molina and playing Molina everyday was gonna lead to him breaking down anyway.

    And comeon guys, it Farnsworth.

  206. Jeff B. July 30th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    This is GREEEEEAT on Pudge, what a headline:

    http://thesportshernia.typepad.....ire-c.html

  207. Don Capone July 30th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    Man, I thought this was a joke. Farnsworth for Pudge? Wow.

  208. Allena July 30th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    I thought this post was a joke until I just saw it on ESPN. Even though I am a Farnsworth fan, I feel relief. Great pickup for the yankees.

  209. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    How do you know Pudge will be a type A? I doubt it…

    I still like the trade though.

  210. Bronxie Brenda July 30th, 2008 at 5:18 pm

    As said many times before, you can pave the streets of the Bronx in 24 karat gold and somebody will complain about the glare.

  211. Del From Hieroglyphics July 30th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    I like this move…but Kyle wasnt just good for a few games…he has been good pretty much the whole season. Just like his career has always been…2 bad years followed by a good year. I actually like Kyle, but this move greatly improves our team.

  212. back bench July 30th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    “Damon, Jeter, Abreu, A-Rod, Giambi, Nady, Cano, Pudge, Melky

    This should be the lineup on most days. L,R,L,R,L,R,L,R,L”

    “On most days.” Does anyone else see this as a demotion for Jose?

  213. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2008 at 5:19 pm

    Glenn: The Yankees have a 1:05 makeup game on Monday Sept. 1st at Detroit.

  214. Jeff Marx July 30th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    For those asking … I’m a web developer in the online department at the Journal News/Lohud.com. I occasionally post for Peter when he cannot get to his machine and he needs to get something on the blog right away.

  215. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    This is an interesting move…could it be that Posada’s shoulder is more damaged than anyone really knows and first base is his destination? As for Melancon coming up this year, I wouldn’t count on it…he’s nearing his innings limit.

  216. Jorge Tabata July 30th, 2008 at 5:20 pm

    BTW – Pudge waved his NTC to come here.

    sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AsTT8DUcgr1g7PrJ0LVtQLsi0bYF?slug=ap-tigers-yankees-trade&prov=ap&type=lgns

    “Pudge had a no-trade clause and he waived it today to go to New York,” Rodriguez’s agent, Scott Boras, told The Associated Press on Wednesday afternoon. “Pudge has always wanted to play in New York and Detroit felt it needed a relief pitcher, so both sides were able to get what they wanted to some degree.”

  217. hclunited July 30th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    This is a great trade. Relievers are the Yanks unsung strength this year. The Yankees have been paring the bottom feeders of the bullpen. Hawkins gone, now Farnsworth. You never know what to expect from Kyle.

    Pudge fills a huge weakness for the Yanks. I would not depend on Moeller or Molina in the playoffs. Pudge still has a 36% caught stealing percent, and bats both lefties and righties well (~.295). Plus, he is a free agent after this season.

    What is there not to like???? Plus, Pudge gave up his no-trade clause to come here. He wants to win and won’t be a problem.

  218. Reggie44 July 30th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Melancon was shut down after warmups last night, I believe. Chad Jennings didn’t have an update on why, hopefully nothing injury related.

  219. Central CT Yankee July 30th, 2008 at 5:21 pm

    Pudge waived his no trade to come to the Yankees

  220. Matt(NY) July 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    There are pros and cons to every trade. We lose a valuable arm in the bullpen, but it is not like we don’t have other arms to replace him. We gained a very good defensive catcher and one who is no longer an automatic out in our lineup. In addition, we gained a type A free agent. It was not a given that Molina could handle the work load for the rest of the season, therefore making this even better. You can make an argument on both sides for this being a bad or good trade, but the fact of the matter is, this is a much better trade for us at this moment in time. People are upset that he is a “washed up catcher”, or something along those lines. Well, Farsny isn’t getting any younger either folks. This trade works for both sides and will help us both defensively and offensively. I don’t see how the negatives outweigh the positives on this one.

  221. pat July 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    “Was Cashman really emotional? Anyone know where I can get video of that???”

    Yes. Said this is the tough part of GM job when you have to give this kind of news to really good people. Will probably be up on yesnetwork.com later tonight.

  222. Central CT Yankee July 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Jorge…beat me to the punch

  223. DLev July 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    The big problem with this trade is that Molina has quietly done an outstanding job with the pitchers. His CERA is 3.6. Posada and Moeller are both at 4.6. Maybe Pudge can do much the same thing — he’s at 4.2 while Inge is at 5.2 (what are the Tigers thinking?). But if he doesn’t do as good a job with the starters, the season could well be over in the next month.

  224. 86w183 July 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Pudge has played very little 1B… not something he wants to make a habit of and not something I want to see much of… plus our infielders are not accurate enough for a 5’9″ 1B!!! lol

    I htink you have to say goobye to Moeller and either hold on the Hawkins or activate an arm for the bullpen. Not sure Bruney is ready just yet… Melancon would be intriguing…

    Remember Marte is not a Left on Left specialist. He made two awful pitches theother day, but I still like this pen

  225. Mike July 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Now that Farnsworthless is gone….bring up MELANCON!!!!

    http://thefinalseason.blogspot.com/

  226. trisha - still supporting Farnsy like crazy! July 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    It’s really good to see so many posters here saying the things they are, giving Kyle his due.

    I don’t think it’s any secret that I was one of Kyle’s biggest supporters on this forum, but I have always deferred to the decisions of the organization because I know their knowledge and judgement is so far superior to any forum poster’s knowledge and judgement. The organization makes the decisions and then it is up to the players to get the job done. So when people whine about moves that Cashman has made I totally ignore it because once the scouting is done, the organization can only hope that the player is going to get the job done. We’ve seen a lot of cases where highly sought out players who ended up in the Bronx just couldn’t get the job done.

    I’m sad for the team and for Kyle; I trust the judgement of the people in control; and I wish Kyle the best wherever he goes. If Cashman and Girardi had so much difficulty with this decision, it should tell you that any personal hatred and venom you may feel for Kyle is likely extremely misplaced and you likely have trouble letting go of the past and dealing in the here and now. I’m sure it wasn’t Kyle’s sparkling personality they were feeling bad about but rather their acknowledgement that he had become a really valuable cog in the wheel and that he was out there giving us his best – and that best was very very good.

    I think it’s a really nice tribute to Kyle that so many people here, even some who heretofore probably wanted him to disappear, are coming to his defense.

  227. randyhater July 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    I like Molina as much as anybody but there is no way he was going to hold up playing everyday down the stretch. Pudge is just as good a defender and is still a legit bat, and as others have pointed out, has had big post season moments.

    Factor in that he’s playing for a contract and will net two picks this winter (and we unload Farnsworth before he turns into a pumpkin!) and this is an absolute steal.

    Another terrific deal for Cash. Maybe he’s not a clueless incompetent afterall.

  228. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 5:22 pm

    Seriously we get 2 picks for someone we weren’t going to bring back after this year and we get probably the best catching duo at holding the running game w/ Molina & Rodriguez.

    If you were to try to do this trade on MLB2k8 it would be rejected. :lol:

  229. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Now we have one of the best defensive catching duos ever that doesn’t consist only of Molinas.

  230. Jeff NJ July 30th, 2008 at 5:23 pm

    Great trade. I wonder which reliever is next called up, Bruney or Melancon.

  231. kd July 30th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    ladies and gentlemen, who would you rather have, moeller or pudge? it’s a HUGE upgrade. shipping out farnsworth is classic addition by subtraction.

  232. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    “How do you know Pudge will be a type A? I doubt it…”

    No, he’s been good enough to classify as a type A. He’ll need to pass on arbitration, but with Boras as his agent that’s likely. Even if he doesn’t though, you can do worse than Pudge in ’09 with Posada’s status as everyday catcher in serious doubt.

  233. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    HELL YEAH!! Just got in and thought Al from bk was at it again. This has to be one of the best trade deadlines i can remember. Please save me the Kyle Krap. Se la vi. Melancon come on down!! I love this team!!!

  234. hclunited July 30th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Hmmm, interesting… Maybe they platoon Pudge and Posada next year. I could see Pudge signing a 2-year contract with the Yankees in the offseason. Seems like he wouldn’t mind ending his career in the new Yankee Stadium and a championship. That would help his legacy after all that steroid talk.

  235. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***) July 30th, 2008 at 5:24 pm

    Melancon was shut down after warmups last night, I believe. Chad Jennings didn’t have an update on why, hopefully nothing injury related.

    He was just promoted to AAA..my guess is he is NY bound soon.

  236. RayBlay July 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    awwww I can’t believe after all Farnsworth has put this franchise through that Brian Cashman still loves him :/ how cute

  237. Rebecca--Optimist Prime July 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    G. Love: Not as good as Molina, but hella better than Posada.

    ie, more than competent.

    Baseball Prospectus on Pudge:

    We think of pudge as being durable, but he’s caught 130 games or more just once since 1999 (doing so with the Marlins in 2003). His legendary arm may be slipping a bit as well; the 68 attempts against him last year tied his high since 1999, the 47 steals he allowed were his most since 1993, and his 31% throwout rate, though still above average, was the lowest of his career. Given where his offense has gone–39 unintentional walks since 2004 and sub .300 OBPs twice in three years–he’s now an average player at best. He’s also a 36-year-old backstop who has been catching in the major leagues since he was 19.

    So, an all star he is not, but he is still much better than Jason Varitek ;)

  238. Bronx Jeers July 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Wow. This is a shocker. Kyle’s been great this season but his carriage was about to turn into a pumpkin any day. Pudge adds a decent bat into a gaping hole in the lineup. I likey!!!!

  239. TurnTwo July 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    “If you were to try to do this trade on MLB2k8 it would be rejected.”

    ha! probably.

  240. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 5:25 pm

    Trisha,
    You need to change it to “Support the run stoppers”.

  241. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Patrick
    Pudge will be a Type A, based on his likelihood that he finishes with stats compared to other catchers in the top 20% for both the last two years combined.

    And no, 36yo Pudge is not the same player he was, but he’s still better than most catchers not named Martin, Mauer, or McCann- the 3 Big M Amigos!!!

  242. G. Love (*coined the term Prospect Hugger) July 30th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    Guess we’re really not in a transition year anymore. The Yanks are going for it this season.

    I like it.

  243. CB July 30th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    I really can’t believe they just pulled this off, if it is really true.

    Farnsworth has finally made himself useful.

    I was going to post something on this prior but figured there was no point as there wasn’t much they could do with the catching situation.

    Even when you have a great offense it is very difficult to carry a player who is playing at replacement level production.

    Molina this year with the bat has been a replacement level catcher. He’s been that awful with the bat. You only have 27 outs in a game – when you have a player like Molina who makes out at such a high rate he bruns up 4 of those 27 outs way too often.

    Again – not Molina’s fault – he’s a back up. But regardless, its a major problem trying to carry a replacement level player no matter how good the offense is.

    And this offense hasn’t been that great this year.

    When people have looked at the impact of having a replacement level bat in a line up the results have not been pretty. Carrying that kind of player has often made the difference between making the playoffs and missing the playoffs, espcecially when races are tight – like they are this year.

    Quite honestly, going into the trade deadline, the yankees single biggest need was finding a catcher. Every other issue was secondary. That’s how much of an impact carrying a player like Molina as an everyday player makes.

    Molina’s line to date: .229 .279 .307 – that’s a .586 OPS

    Replace that with Pudge – .295 .338 .417 – that’s a .756 OPS.

    I can’t emphasize how enormous that upgrade is. To replace a .586 OPS player with a .756 OPS player is just enormous.

    And on top of that the yankees will get a better draft pick for Pudge than they will for Farnsworth.

    Just an unbelievable deal.

    Once again we see how Cashman is using all of the accumulated pitching talent to make the big lead team better now.

    Tremendous deal.

  244. Al from BK July 30th, 2008 at 5:26 pm

    This must mean that Marte is now the 8th inning guy or Melancon is knocking on the door. Overrall I still dont trust Farnsy in a big spot and Pudge is still a top 10 ML catcher.

  245. Tim July 30th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Stupid move – really stupid move. Girardi finally gets Farnsworth to be the 8th inning pitcher the Yankees wanted and needed and then they unload him for an over-the-hill catcher. Really dumb; if they really needed a bat that bad they should have gotten Bonds for $400k. I am very disappointed.

  246. voiii July 30th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Wow, since when did “Krazy Kyle” become such a fan favorite?

    You people drinking the Kyle Kool-aid have really short memories…Are you going to trust him in the 8th during a 1 run game against Boston or Tampa? The Yankees traded from a very deep pool of Bullpen Arms…There are 3 more in SWB that can come in and replace Kyle. We filled a huge void in the back end of the line-up and did not lose compensatory draft picks next year. Where is the down side?

  247. Dr. J July 30th, 2008 at 5:27 pm

    Just bring up Melancon if he has a few good innings of AAA.

    His IP limit has to be around 100 with the way he has been used.

  248. CUYanks July 30th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

    Apparently Pudge waived his no-trade clause to come to the Yankees… reason to like him even more

  249. Al from BK July 30th, 2008 at 5:29 pm

    If Cash can now swap Igawa for Washburn he will be left alone for the rest of the year.

  250. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    Can this mean that Posada comes back next year at dh or first base? Keeping Pudge and Molina behing the plate?

  251. JDog July 30th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    http://theblogofchampions.com/?p=159

  252. Confucius July 30th, 2008 at 5:30 pm

    “Guess we’re really not in a transition year anymore. The Yanks are going for it this season.”

    Without sacrificing any of their future. In fact, given the draft implications that have been outlined here already, they’ve actually aided their future!

    Sign that Cashman isn’t incompetent? This is a sign that the ‘boy genius’ bandwagoners in Boston need to keep their mouths shut for a while, especially considering that all -he’s- done in the last few years is throw tons of cash at guys who have been far from automatic and trade a good young starter for Gagne when his bullpen was his greatest strength.

  253. Hobs July 30th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Great post CB. I completely agree.

    Pudge is hitting better as of late too after a horrible start to the season.

  254. RayBlay July 30th, 2008 at 5:31 pm

    Tim – thank you for expressing my sentiments in a more clear and concise way. I cannot express how annoyed I am about this. I whined about transferring Joba to the rotation bc the pen was going to suck – they needed a more solid setup guy. So when Farnsworth essentially became that guy – exactly what I was waiting for – I loved him. He had been almost perfect, never blowing games and showing his true make-up. Now we have friggin’ Pudge Rodriguez, ex-PED user, jacka**, and not-so-great defensive OR offensive guy. I will sit here and sulk until the day we get Kyle Farnsworth back. Unless the bullpen guys start stepping up. That means call up the guys in AAA and give them a chance, for goodness’ sake

  255. OldYanksFan July 30th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    People… here it a link that gives detailed contract info on every current MLB players. Please DO NOT ASK for contract info here, as all the idiots here give the wrong answers.

    LOOK IT UP YOURSELVES!!!!!!!!!!!
    http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/

    Pudge – 4 years/$40M (2004-07), plus $13M 2008 club option
    So pudge is playing out his option, and will be a FA next year. This is a 2 month rental. Cashman is a genius. Pudge may even bring 2 draft picks when he leaves after this year.

    Cashman is a genius.

  256. rconn23 July 30th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    “Girardi finally gets Farnsworth to be the 8th inning pitcher the Yankees wanted and needed and then they unload him for an over-the-hill catcher.”

    If Girardi was so sold on Farnsy, he would have left him in the game Friday night. But he, like anyone else with a set of eyes, could see the classic Farnsworth implosion coming.

    This is a no-brainer move.

  257. mark July 30th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    lol seriously how are ppl upset at this trade. pudge is hittin near 300 and has a cannon. farnsworth, while better, isnt even the 2nd best pitcher in the pen. veras and edwar are much better than him. and besides, pudge is a FA at the end of the year, so if jorges good to go, then bye pudge, thanks for winning us a championship.

    farnsworth is only good in the 8th inning if noone is on. just because hes good in the 8th with noone on doesnt mean hes good under pressure. hes proven time and time again that with runners on, he cant come through. i say we traded him when his value was at its highest and got a great return.

  258. Matt-LI July 30th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    First move of the offseason, re-sign Cashman.

  259. Christine July 30th, 2008 at 5:32 pm

    I don’t see the need to call people retards because they have a difference of opinion. For all you bandwagon fans or whatever you are calling yourselves, try to post intelligently and do not resort to name calling.

    If you want to call people names, then go somewhere else. Pete’s blog is better than that.

    I’m sad for Kyle. He is a human being after all. Why is it so hard to believe that his team mates actually care about him?

  260. trisha - In quasi-mourning. :( July 30th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    Well I guess I’ll make my prediction about the upcoming series now. I predict that the Yankees will take 3 of 4 from the Angels.

    Feel free to discuss it on the Trisha is an Idiot forum…

    Later.

    :(

  261. Patrick â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 5:33 pm

    “Patrick
    Pudge will be a Type A, based on his likelihood that he finishes with stats compared to other catchers in the top 20% for both the last two years combined.”

    I know how a player is categorized as Type A, I’m just questioning whether or not Pudge will be in that group. I’m not so sure that Pudge has been in the top 20% of catchers over the past two years. Its really up to Elias, the way they determine this stuff is absurd in some cases. If Pudge ends up being a type A that would be a huge bonus. Even if he’s type B the Yanks get a supplemental pick which would be nice.

  262. Andrea July 30th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Aw. I just got my friend a Farnsworth Yankees tshirt.

  263. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    Tim-
    Bonds can’t catch, and as was said, if Molina “conks ou” from overuse, or gets hurt, we are screwed, because there will be no worthwhile catchers available on the waiver wire.

    CB: Couldn’t agree with you more. If Pudge meant you giving up Ramirez, Robertson, Veras, or Marte, most people on this blog and at the stadium just don’t trust Farnsy, to be a 1-2-3- inning lights out guy.

    Now go get a starter!

  264. LathamJoe July 30th, 2008 at 5:34 pm

    This ois a solid trade and its about time that Cashman woke up to the Yankees needs this season. Getting Marte and Nady was an exce4llent deal.
    This deal for Pudge is a solid one. It brings a fine defensive catcher with offensive ability to the Yankees. Molina is fine defe4sively, but, lets face it, he is not a starting catcher and hurts the bottom of the lineup offensively. Both Farnsy and Pudge are free agents next season so there is no long term contract to deal with.

    I’d love to be a fly on the wall in Jorge’ Posada’s hospital bed right now!

  265. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    Was Farnsworth really the 8th inning guy? I mean, I didn’t really see that as set in stone, considering he was an accident waiting to happen. I’d rather them implode with young arms like Veras, Ramirez, and Robertson, than have them certainly implode with dunces like Hawkins and Farnsworth.

  266. Ben July 30th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    The trade makes sense and most likely help the Bomber’s push in the last two months of the season. Also should Posada not be fully able to resume his catching duties next season, then Pudge will be available.

    My complaint is that the announcement of the deal was poorly handled by the Yankee’s PR machine. The central personnel should have given time away from the glare of the media to digest this info rather than at the end of the game with the boneheads from YES sticking their mics into everyone’s face. Couldn’t reaction have been held off until tomorrow? I know this is a business, but these are still people not cogs in a machine soley used for our amusement. What say you?

  267. GreenBeret7 July 30th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

    The real issue that has always been on Ivan Rodriguez has been his pitch selection when fast runners are on base. He has a propensity for calling all fastballs. Even still, he can still slow the running game on reputation. It’s his hitting that will help more than anything. He eliminates one of the black holes at the bottom of the lineup, considerably.

  268. raymagnetic â„¢ July 30th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    Melancon has thrown a lot of innings, but he hasn’t thrown a lot of pitches which is big IMO. He’s not being abused at all and his stuff is so good he pitches 3 innings in under 30 pitches.

  269. Christine July 30th, 2008 at 5:38 pm

    “I’d love to be a fly on the wall in Jorge’ Posada’s hospital bed right now!”

    If his shoulder surgery was anything like my husbands, he is pretty out of it right now. But I know what you are getting at. When he regains consciousness – his head will be buzzing. :-)

  270. Terry #1 July 30th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    I’m kind of dissapointed with this trade.

    Make no mistake, it’s a good trade for the Yankees and it covers alot of bases during and after this season ends, but Kyle was one of my sentimental favorites in the pen.

    Yes, he was inconsistent, but I was never the kind of fan who wanted to see him fail so I could jeer him as a whipping boy. I liked it when he toured the Coast Guard Cutter too, seemed like something Kyle would do naturally.

    So as an aside to this trade, I’ll be looking in Detroit’s box scores from now on hoping to see Farnsworth do well.

    I’ll miss Moeller too BTW, but I hope some team picks him up so he can play everyday (unless he WANTS to stay in the Yankee system of course).

    Good luck to both of our players who have served our team well. I’ll be praying for them.

  271. MJR (Shut Up Steve Phillips) July 30th, 2008 at 5:39 pm

    I don’t see how this is entirely bad for the team or bullpen.

    Ramirez has emerged, and Veras (hopefully Marte as well) are solid inning eaters.

    Besides, I agree with Pete’s other point. Molina can’t take the toll. Would you rather have Molina-Moeller or Molina-IROD?

    good trade IMO.

  272. NongEyeJon July 30th, 2008 at 5:40 pm

    Has there been any reaction by analysts?

  273. 86w183 July 30th, 2008 at 5:41 pm

    This is a great move. I respect Farnsie’s nice stretch for three weeks, but let’s get real. He has had a HUGE ERA for a reliever for three straight years and even his “great” pitching this season that some of you have claimed has resulted in a 3.65.

    Don’t worry about Melancon… he threw three innings Sunday and was just throwing for his new pitching coach. No idea if he gets called up, but the bullpen is already in excellent hands.

    They may offer him one year to see if he can help buy time for Jorge… but I’m sure they’ll offer arbitration.

    My guess is for this year that Pudge catches 3X and Molina 2X each time through the rotation.

  274. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 30th, 2008 at 5:42 pm

    Wow, definitely a smart trade and cost us nothing all that valuable.

    But isn’t our real concern still a starting pitcher?

  275. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 5:44 pm

    “Really dumb; if they really needed a bat that bad they should have gotten Bonds for $400k. I am very disappointed.”

    Can bonds catch? What don’t people understand about this? Molina is a great defensive catcher, but there is only one designated hitter. The catcher has to hit and Molina can’t hit, besides the fact that his body can’t really handle everday work. Nevermind the fact that no-one wants Bonds, period.

  276. OldYanksFan July 30th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    Pudge is really, really, REALLY OLD!
    How old is he, you ask?
    Why… he is ALMOST as OLD AS JORGE POSADA!

  277. Rick July 30th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    This is a great trade. You plug a glaring hole in the offense with someone that was just unreliable pitcher for the last few years. The bottom of the order is better now. The Yankees have improved so much in the last few weeks. You have to pat Cashman on the back.

  278. brent July 30th, 2008 at 5:45 pm

    Happy Days are here again. I heard a rumor that Manny was coming and was depressed,because he’d ruin the team chemistry.

  279. The Mad Prince in Pinstripes July 30th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Chris NY,

    Agreed.

    People, what is your infatuation with Barry Bonds? Get over him, the Yankees have. He doesn’t fit in any way.

  280. 86w183 July 30th, 2008 at 5:46 pm

    Melancon is at 75 innings, but Raymagnetic makes a superb point that his innings are almost always low pitch count. I’d let him close at SWB at least for August and let someone else fill the void in the pen right now.

  281. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Got home from work while listening to XM Yankees in the last inning. If Anyone saw the game, I looked at the box score, was Jeter swinging at everything-struck out 3 times in 3 ab’s and Molina, Melky not much better at 0 for 3.

    Based on the way the players are hitting, do we still want Jeter batting second, or maybe leading off with Damon 2nd, who is less likely to hit into a DP.

    Thoughts to the batting order to improve the offense against the Angels.

    By the way, the announcers annointed the Angels as WS champs already with that trade. Teixeira’s numbers in the Angel’s ballpark are awful. I think you could make a case as the Cubs being the best all around team!

  282. S.o.S.27 July 30th, 2008 at 5:47 pm

    Kyle went from being dfa’d not long ago to landing us a gold glove catcher. Maybe Pavano can land us a Sheets or and Oswalt.

  283. S.A.- I still believe in this team but this offense is offensive again. July 30th, 2008 at 5:49 pm

    Good trade
    Hasta la vista Krazy Kyle.

  284. Steve O July 30th, 2008 at 5:50 pm

    Kyle Farnsworth has caused me to worry more during Yankee games these last three years more than anybody else. My blood pressure just dropped to a normal level for the first time in three years. I would have traded Farnsworth for a new glove. Thank you Brian Cashman for getting this ticking time bomb off our beloved Yankee team. Welcome I Rod.

  285. Travis July 30th, 2008 at 5:54 pm

    I am shocked by how many people think is a bad move. I think this is a terrific move!

  286. Chris NY July 30th, 2008 at 5:57 pm

    “Got home from work while listening to XM Yankees…”

    Can’t wait to be able to say the same thing now that the XM and Sirius merger was approved…

  287. MJR (Shut Up Steve Phillips) July 30th, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    From a $$ perspective this makes perfect sense. We’re bound to save thousands by cutting our Pepto Bismol order in half for the rest of the season.

    need to get a Krazy Kyle 48 t-shirt for posterity.

    Yanks & Cubs in 2008!

  288. brent July 30th, 2008 at 5:58 pm

    Jeter is the king of the DP’s, his batting order should change.I sweat when he’s at the plate and someone is at first.He will hit into a DP or a force out for sure.I noticed this last season,too!

  289. michelle(long time reader, Not so Seldom Poster) I Love It's Its July 30th, 2008 at 5:59 pm

    wilbon just called farnsy a “complete dope”.. said yankees stole him.

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    Marlins are in serious negotiations to get manny from the sox.

  291. Yankee Trader July 30th, 2008 at 6:03 pm

    Cashman calls Joey[Girardi around the 6th or 7th inning today]” I don’t know where this is going but don’t use Farnsworth.”

    Pudge waived his NTC to play for the Yankees and wanted to come here.

    Cashman also went on to sum up the risk: “We are robbing Peter to pay Paul.” [ The ESPN article actually was misspelled as robbing Peter to PLAY Paul]

    Talk about making a quick decision to pull off this trade. Way to go Cashman!!

  292. Big Johnson July 30th, 2008 at 6:15 pm

    Farnsworth’s stock has never been higher and there is no reason whatsoever to expect him to continue this way. There isn’t a single fan on this board that has trust in farnsworth in a key playoff situation. Great time to trade the dud, and to improve at catcher is a bonus. One of the better trades by Cashman in recent years. We are one starter away from a legitimate playoff push.

  293. m4rk6 July 30th, 2008 at 6:46 pm

    “How is Pudge’s game-calling abilities? I know he is a good defensive catcher but what about his game-calling?”

    He called the games for several young pitchers when they beat the New York Yankees in the World Series.

    Pudge throws runners out at 31%. Above average.

  294. Bob Jones-10 game hit streak for Jeter-11 games safely reached base July 30th, 2008 at 7:02 pm

    And Molina throws guys out at 49%

    Crushes the average

    49%>>>>>>>>>>31%

    Girardi was one of farnsworth’s first catcher’s, i think

    i don’t like this at all

    1. if there was a fight, who would you rather have than him???

    2. Molina is the best defensive catcher in the league

    3. so what if he’s hitting .220, he’s hitting 9th, and it doesn’t seem to be hurting us

    4. Whose the 7th/8th inning guy now? I don’t like ramirez or veras as much as farnsworth

    i won’t forgive the front office for a long time

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  295. tim boat July 30th, 2008 at 7:10 pm

    The comment about people needing to “get over this Scott Strickland love affair” was directed at you, Tim.
    Strickland hasn’t had a decent major league season in SIX YEARS.
    And what makes you say that Mark Melancon is not ready, yet? He just hasn’t been called up, yet.
    You seem to think that Farnsworth was an important part of the bullpen. Have you watched any games over the past couple of seasons? Farnsworth has, except on a few occasions here and there, been BAD. His recent spate of competency has been nice, but hardly an indication that he’s become reliable. He’s given up 11 homeruns in 44 innings!!

    Are you kidding me? In all my dancing and rejoicing over this trade what gave you the idea that I thought Farnsworth was so important? I’m well aware of how many HR’s he’s given up since I posted it in an earlier comment. I’ve been praying for years they could unload him. Strickland hasn’t had an effective last few years because he was injuried and underwent an operation or two. They are still babying Melancon along and he has little Triple A experience. As for my “love affair” with Strickland, just because I want to see him get a shot with the ML club? Who are their other options in the pen? Bruney is still rehabbing and has been giving up a lot of walks again, Melancon might be passed over.

    I look at it this way – Marte replaces Farnsworth, Strickland replaces Hawkins.

  296. Karen July 30th, 2008 at 8:03 pm

    You guys forgot one thing; Pudge Rodriguez loves to snap throw down to 1B to try to catch baserunners. With either Giambi or Sexson taking those throws, look for the baserunners to be on 3B in no time.

    A lot of Pudge’s success holding baserunners has to do with the guys receiving his throws. Your middle infielders…maybe; but hold your breath if any throws go down to 1B.

  297. OldYanksFan July 30th, 2008 at 8:15 pm

    Caught Stealing Percentage
    Player 2006 2007 2008 Career
    Molina (33) .426 .295 .473 .418
    I-Rod. (26) .510 .309 .360 .470

    Make of it what you may. Pudge is older, Molina is a lot fatter. Molina has been better this year, in limited games, Pudge was better the previous 3 years and for his career. Who ever you think is ‘better’, Pudge is still excellent.

    As a FULL time Catcher, Pudge has won 13 Gold Gloves in 17 seasons. He is considered on of the best defense Catchers in MLB history. He ain’t a kid anymore, but has averaged 133 games over the last 5 years, 129 games last year.

    Also, Molina has been great, but it not great at blocking the plate. There have already been a nunber of plays at the plate where he was out of position.

    This was an excellent trade. If we get 2 picks for him, it becomes unbelieveable! By the by, you might notice that Cashman LIKES to go for trades that yield draft picks. As a top finishing team, we always get bottom of the barrel picks, and this is one smart way of getting some higher placed picks.

  298. OldYanksFan July 30th, 2008 at 8:16 pm

    Oops. IRod is (36)

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