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Yanks get Pudge for Farnsworth

July
30

Peter asked me to post this for him.

The Yankees have traded Kyle Farnsworth for Pudge Rodriguez.

More details to come …

This entry was posted on Wednesday, July 30th, 2008 at 4:35 pm by Jeff Marx.
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299 Responses to “Yanks get Pudge for Farnsworth”

  1. Marc

    Worst trade ever.

  2. BBFan

    We have to see how it will work out.
    Now that Kyle is gone, interesting to see how the bullpen shapes up.

  3. melissa(I love Cano)

    Marc I second that

  4. number18

    i cannot stand farnsworth!!!!! thaaaaaaaank you brian!

  5. allsta2003

    i love it

  6. tim boat

    Now just get rid of Betemit and Ponson and the roster will be set.

    They can start be calling up Cody Ransom to take over as the UIF

  7. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache)

    best trade ever. our bullpen has enough depth.

  8. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache)

    best trade ever. our bullpen has enough depth.

  9. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache)

    best trade ever. our bullpen has enough depth.

  10. 2008 Yankees

    GOOD trade…..can’t trust Farnsworth in a BIG spot and Irod still still catch!

  11. 2008 Yankees

    GOOD trade…..can’t trust Farnsworth in a BIG spot and Irod can still catch!

  12. eric in queens

    Strange trade. The Yankee bullpen finally looks good. It’s deep but I don’t quite understand messing with it at this point.

  13. Joe DeRosa

    Wow! This is shocking.

  14. fridayjones

    This is a GREAT trade.

    Why in the world would the Tigers do this?

  15. Slick

    Nice job pulling this off Espn Pete.

    What did Buster Olney ever do to break all these stories?

  16. jettman

    Not a bad trade. Dude’s hitting almost .300 and he’s nasty defensively. Molina’s great behind the plate but he was dragging down the bottom of the lineup. As good as Farnsy’s been, he’s not too much better than the other bullpen options we have and we have a bunch of quality arms, especially if Bruney comes back or if IPK fills in for someone.

  17. jon

    WHAAAAT?

    I mean, Crazy Kyle never inspired confidence in anyone…but we have a catcher…for 3 more years. Unless he’s a full time 1B now. Does he hit for enough power to play first? Does he WANT to play first? How long is Pudge on the hook for? Questions, questions, questions.

  18. dan

    Wow thats really crazy, that is a stealth acquisition by the Cash Man…..no one and I mean NO ONE was reporting that anywhere

    Tremendous faith now needed in Edwar, Jose Veras, Dave Robertson, and Damaso Marte

    Wow I am shocked no one saw that one coming

  19. Stephen

    Why would anyone want Kyle? But hey, best trade ever!

  20. george

    selling high on Farnsworth to patch a hole. i like it.

  21. Laura - Every game is a must win game!

    Now we have two former steroid users on the team. Great.

    Not sure what I think yet. I feel bad for Molina because I think he was looking forward to being the first string catcher. Unfortunately, Jose just can’t hit.

    My guess is Moeller is history. We need someone in the bullpen; not sure if we are doing a deal or will promote someone from AAA.

    I have to hand it to Cashman. He never fails to surprise me.

  22. Brett

    how is this a bad move on any level. marte immediately make farnsworth expendable while Pudge is a massive upgrade from Chad Moeller.

  23. BBFan

    Interesting to see who will be called up to replace Kyle. Britton?

  24. migames

    type A free agent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  25. UtilityMan

    A W E S O M E !!!!!!

  26. Evan

    He is hitting .353 in the last month…

  27. Yankee Jay

    Whoa, didn’t see that one coming?

  28. Aaron

    u gotta remember that, bruney is coming back too, and maybe cashman has another trade up his sleeve.

  29. back bench

    Guess the ‘management’ didn’t think Jose could hold up for the whole season at this rate. Two good catchers at stopping the run.

    What about David Eckstein? He is a real scrapper, and would help the RISP problem IMO. He’s sitting on the bench in Toronto, and after the fabulous series they just had against the Rays, they ought to be sellers.

    Our OF now should also be Abreu, Damon/Christian and Nady. Sit Melky. He really needs the rest.

  30. Chris N.

    Is Pudge under contract beyond this year? If not, then its a fine trade. Maybe improves the lineup and probably doesn’t hurt the pen that much. And you have a defensive presence all the time.

  31. Scott

    This is a strange trade. I mean Molina can’t hit, but Pudge isn’t exactly great either. It’s an upgrade over Moehller though. Last year I would have been fine with this, actually I would have been fine if they traded Farnsworth for some bags of that speedy dry stuff they use, but he’s been very good this year. Strange.

    Scott F

  32. Laura - Every game is a must win game!

    Pudge is a free agent after this season. If Posada doesn’t heal as quickly as planned, they can look at signing Pudge to a one year deal. Lots of options.

  33. miggs (NO to Teixeira) (Please ban the Hair Dresser)

    how long is he signed for?

  34. Kevin

    Did not see this coming as well…was shocked to hear the news just now.

  35. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Losing Farnsworth hurts, but Pudge’s bat could be extremely beneficial.

    Hitting .290 >>> hitting .227.

    I love Molina, and I’ve made the case for him as one of the team’s most valuable players, but you can’t have two near automatic outs at the bottom of the line up.

  36. retire #51 (time to shave the 'stache)

    great trade. No prospects spent. veras can take the eight. edwar the 7th. Nobody saw that coming. brilliant trade by cash. He traded farnsworth at the highest value, plus we can spare him

  37. Laura - Every game is a must win game!

    Girardi is near tears. He really liked Kyle.

  38. Doug

    Bruney will be up VERY soon

  39. raymagnetic â„¢

    “Our OF now should also be Abreu, Damon/Christian and Nady. Sit Melky. He really needs the rest.”

    Abreu has been really bad defensively this season and Damon can’t play CF. Do you really want that outfield configuration?

  40. jay destro

    man who is pete gonna pick on now?

  41. stuart

    great trade.. upgrade the offense and the pen is fine.. Maybe Melancon ill be joining us!!!!!!!!!

    I wanted and thought maybe it could happen and it did. .WOW….Molina is the backup and Pudge is the starter.. udge is not great any more but he is a huge upgrade and he can play D..

    Bruney may be brought up now…

    2 expiring ontracts pudge is a rental but Kyle was not coming back.

    Cahman does it again good good trade…

  42. Marc

    Our bullpen was good for a week and suddenly people start saying we are set? Edwar and Veras could start sucking at any time. Besides, Molina was hitting a little bit better and he is the best defensive catcher in the league. Farnsworth gave the Yankees a third strong middle relief guy who could help them if he kept on pitching how he was.

  43. Timmy Lupus

    Pudge hit .392 .485 .333 in June, and he’s hitting
    .397 .469 .359 in July. I love Jose, but I’ll take that any day of the week.

  44. CUYanks

    You have to love how Kyle’s value went up so much this year.

  45. JoeT 28 in 09!! Pitch PAVANO until his arm falls off!! (over/under 3 innings)

    we definitely have the best defensive catchers in the league

  46. MikeEff

    chris—i’m pretty sure that pudge is a FA after this year- if i recall the tigers gave him a one year deal this year

  47. djsunyc

    could also indicate another deal is on the way…

  48. Tank

    You guys are all missing the best part of the trade.

    We finally have room for Britton, the innings eater.

  49. steve

    pudge has a club option for 13 million next year. we could pull a gary sheffield and trade him at the end of the season. I like the trade…i think its ones of those rare trades that helps two good teams immediately.

  50. YanksFanLV

    dang, didn’t see this coming.. Not a bad idea to patch the whole, I like it.

  51. K

    Pudge is in his free agent year. Which means once this year is done. He leaves and Yanks get a type A pick. Cashman is the man.

  52. trisha - still supporting Farnsy like crazy!

    Hey! What the?????

    Thank you Kyle for all that you did to help the Yankees.

    Still you can push me over with a feather, not so much on the part about trading Kyle as much as with getting Pudge!!!

    I seriously don’t get it unless they now want to be able to use Moeller as a utlity infielder since we only have one. Unless, of course, we are getting Washburn and then we won’t need a personal catcher for Rasner…

    I hate trying to figure things out. That’s why I end up totally having faith that the organization knows more than any of us and this won’t be any exception.

    Guess I need to change my tagline.

    :(

  53. Jeremy

    what am i going to do with my anybody but farnsworth tshirt now???

  54. stuart

    Clowns Damon cannot play CF… Yo uare stuck with Melky for the whole season, deal with it…....

  55. DV

    anyone that says this is not a great trade needs to check into the looney ward right now and do us all a favor and not come back here until you feel better….WAY TO GO, CASHMAN ! he is Definitely going to be the GM for many years to come, ALL ! ;-)

  56. Matt

    Why would anyone in their right mind like this move?

    This is a terrible trade for the Yankees.

    You gave up a reliever who has DOMINATED other than one game in Fenway park. DOMINATED.

    He has been lights out for the last 2 months and stabilized the bullpen with Joba out. For what? An aging, over the hill Catcher. What a horrible trade.

    Pudge has no power any more and even though he’s hitting .300 has a .330 obp! His skills have eroded greatly lately and lest we forget, Molina has been OUTSTANDING behind the plate and called a great game AND shut down the running game. We didn’t need Pudge and we still don’t with Posada out.

    On the other hand, we gave up a good reliever. This is not selling high, this is caving into the fans and not thinking. Farnsworth has been one of our best relievers this year, and Bruney is not healthy yet. His velocity is down and his control is off. Unless they’re bringing up Melancon and expecting him to be lights out, this is a very questionable move that could hurt them down the stretch.

  57. AeroFANatic

    Bullpen will be :

    Rivera
    Marte
    Veras
    Ramierez
    Bruney
    Robertson
    Giese

    Marte and Veras will be your 8th inning guys, Ramierez and Bruney your 7th and Robertson as a 6/7/8 guy and Giese long man.

    No Melancon or Cox this year, provided there are no injuries.

  58. Dman

    The Tigers dont know what there doing, half the reason the Tigers are still a little bit in it is because of IRod, Dave Drombrowski is an idiot

  59. Joe Monte

    Too bad Mad Dog and Fat Man are not on the radio right now.

  60. jake

    WOW.
    A “stealth trade,” indeed.
    No one saw this coming.
    Pudge hasn’t been the same at the plate since he stopped using steroids, but he’s still a good overall player. I wouldn’t say he’s a better catcher than Molina at this point in time but he’s still a damned good catcher and MUCH better with the bat than Molina, even now, at age 36 and with his power numbers “unenhanced.”
    What a great move by Cashman. Farnsworth is gone and Moeller gets replaced by Pudge Rodriguez for the rest of this season. And the Yanks will pick up a prospect if they don’t re-sign Pudge in the off-season.
    Sweet.

  61. Gus G.

    Wow- Didn’t see this trade coming in a million years.

  62. raymagnetic â„¢

    “Our bullpen was good for a week and suddenly people start saying we are set? Edwar and Veras could start sucking at any time.”

    Couldn’t this have happened even if Kyle Farnsworth had stayed? Marte will basically be the 8th inning guy and you have Veras, Edwar, and Robertson plus whoever they call up for the 6th and 7th innings. Sounds like a go to me.

  63. Keith

    Who art thou Jeff Marx?

  64. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Honestly? I see them trading Farnsworth as a way to make room for Melancon.

    That said, Farnsworth had been pitching really really well of late.

  65. Matt

    And on top of that, you strengthened another contending team’s bullpen. WHY? YOu hurt your team, and help the other. A stupid move all around.

  66. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***)

    GI Joe was selling that love for Kyle even went near water works..my goodness what was Detroit thinking ! TYPE A FA ! TYPE A !

  67. hornblower

    Sell high. Farnesworth will never be worth more.

  68. PBL

    pudge has had postseason success too, i think it makes sense, especially with pudge’s contract up after the season. do you think we’ll get the same draft picks in response for pudge as farnsworth? i’d guess we will

  69. Glenn

    Does this open the door for Mark Melancon ? Cashman should have thrown in Betemit as a bonus.
    So long Chad Moeller …..

  70. k

    WOW.

    I’m reading 3 other Yankee blogs and everyone is ecstatic, why am I surprised that the pack of retards on here don’t approve of this trade? Farnsworth sucks; Pudge is a Type A FA after this season. His OPS+ is = to Jeter’s. Shut up.

  71. stuart

    Marc come down the Yanks have more good arms in AAA.. bruney, melancon, cox, strickland etc..

    the pen should be fine, they replaced kyle with marte and kept the rest of the pen, at worst that is a lateral move….

  72. E-Man

    Unreal.. I have a hard time believing this trade. Is that all we gave up?

  73. eric

    Good deal. Kyle is an he’s a FA at the end of the yr. Veras/Edwar/Robertson/Marte should be enough. we cant have a .220 bat in the lineup with 0 power. same d, better bat.

  74. flash

    damn i wanted salty

  75. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***)

    it’s ok GI Joe you’ll develope love for Brunney and Melancon soon.

  76. GreenBeret7

    FridayJones, they have Inge doing most of the catching for Detroit.

  77. TIME 4#27

    Bad deal.

  78. rconn23

    How can anyone see this as a bad thing?

    Three rules in life. Don’t tug on Superman’s cape. Don’t spit in the wind. And don’t ever, ever trust Kyle Farnsworth in a big spot. He is the definition of Fool’s Gold.

    Pudge is a Type A free agent. You let him go at the end of the season and get picks. He’s hitting almost .300 right now, and is certainly not the automatic out that Molina is.

    There was NO WAY the Yankees were ever to going to resign Farnsworth. This is a no-brainer and a great move by Cashman.

  79. raymagnetic â„¢

    “Why would anyone in their right mind like this move?

    This is a terrible trade for the Yankees.

    You gave up a reliever who has DOMINATED other than one game in Fenway park. DOMINATED.

    He has been lights out for the last 2 months and stabilized the bullpen with Joba out. For what? An aging, over the hill Catcher. What a horrible trade.

    Pudge has no power any more and even though he’s hitting .300 has a .330 obp! His skills have eroded greatly lately and lest we forget, Molina has been OUTSTANDING behind the plate and called a great game AND shut down the running game. We didn’t need Pudge and we still don’t with Posada out.”

    Pudge > Molina, no? Farnsworth is very Jekyl and Hyde or have you not seen him in the 3 years he’s been on the team. My question is how could you NOT like this trade?

  80. Laura - Every game is a must win game!

    Kay is saying the Yankees made this move out of fear that Molina could get hurt and then they’d be screwed.

  81. Michael T

    IRod is not all that great offensively with a .338 OBP and .417 SLG, almost dead on top of league average with an OPS+ of 101. But consider that he will be taking at bats from Jose Molina (.279 OBP/.307 SLG) without sacrificing D and this is a huge upgrade. Jose Molin has an OPS+ of 58! That differential is the same difference as replacing Melky with Carlos Beltran. And IRod is not under contract beyond this year.

  82. RustyJohn

    Wow, amazing how so many people on here suddenly become Farnsworth lovers. Farnsie was never consistent (thank you, Joe Morgan) or reliable. He was a free agent at the end of the year, Rodriguez is a free agent at the end of the year, so this is an awesome trade. The Yanks have Bruney and Britton available- great move.

    To paraphrase Wall Street (“And now you know why they call him ‘Gecko the Great’...”), and now you know why they call him ‘Cash Money’

  83. Bob(The Original)

    I don’t care how well Farnsworth pitched lately, bottom line is he cannot be trusted.

  84. back bench

    Ray..

    Nady said he could work CF in an interview a few days ago.

    Getting Pudge makes the bottom 3 in the lineup a little more difficult for opposing pitchers. Getting Melky out of the line up for a few games using the assets we have makes it even more so for no cost.

    So yes, I’ld try it at least. We can’t have 3 straight outs at the bottom of the line up and expect to make a move this year.

  85. Brent (Yankees Need a Pick-Me-Up)

    WOOOOOW

  86. stf

    “Worst trade ever.”

    You just plain stupid, Marc.

    Good trade.

  87. nicole

    farnsworth was near tears as well. i’d cry if i had to go to detroit too though.

  88. Timmy Lupus

    Farns sounded genuinely upset about the trade. Voice broke up a bit on the post game.

  89. Matt

    I dont like this trade. the Bullpen had their roles set and now putting veras in 8th inning scares me.

    They got pudge about 4 years to late.

  90. Marc

    We shall see.

  91. bphill

    :-(, I’ll miss you Kyle.

  92. Russell W

    How the hell can you argue this is a bad trade? Girardi built up Farnsworth’s value enough to get a started to replace Jorge at catcher. Farnsworth sucks and can’t be trusted in big spots. Plus, we got Marte, Robertson, Ramirez and Melancon was just promoted. We have enough depth in the bullpen. I LOVE THIS MOVE!!!!!

  93. Matt

    farnsworth crying, he wants to be a Yankee

  94. Catherine

    Farnsworth teary eyed on YES…

    must be a bummer to be pitching well and have the team playing better to be dealt, I feel bad for the guy. Pudge? Wasn’t expecting that…

  95. al arodien

    i hate this deal!

  96. Mark Alan

    It just makes Cashman sense to trade one of the recent stars of a solid bullpen, a man who can throw a ball through a brick wall, for an aging catcher unwanted be the barely .500 Tigers.

    If JoeG will let Marte throw to players at both sides of the plate, it won’t matter. They can purchase Pudge a walker, and everything will be fine.

  97. letter10

    wow…kind of a crazy deal but it just might work. you have to love pudge’s competitiveness and the guy knows how to win. hard to knock those qualities. hope he has a few months of pop left in him!

  98. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5)

    raymagnetic: thank you, for not being the GM.

  99. ohgodno

    Pudge Strikes out way too much. Molina is the man with the staff, watch as the pitching staff crumbles.

  100. flash

    krazy kyle was crying hahahahahahaha

  101. Ryan

    “I mean, Crazy Kyle never inspired confidence in anyone…but we have a catcher…for 3 more years. Unless he’s a full time 1B now. Does he hit for enough power to play first? Does he WANT to play first? How long is Pudge on the hook for? Questions, questions, questions.”

    Pudge is in the last year of his deal – having signed Posada to 3 years is insignificant considering he is out for the season.

  102. tim boat

    This is a great move, despite what some nitwits might say. Farnsworth has had a good stretch lately but to say he’s dominated this year is a real reach. He’s given up 10 home runs this year and he can’t pitch on back to back days. Molina’s OBP is 280 so I’ll take the 50 point increase in Pudge’s 330.

    And for everyone else, Pudge is in a walk year = 2 draft picks. YAY!

  103. Mark Melancon

    I’ll be you seeing you guys soon

  104. John

    I think this trade is most important because out three of our biggest rivals and potential playoff opponents in the AL have big time running games and I don’t think Molina can handle the full load.

    Angels
    Boston (with Ellsbury getting on and running their offense is unstoppable, Boston started losing when Jacoby went into a slump…I know he’s killing my fantasy team right now)
    Tampa Bay

    TRY RUNNING ON THE YANKS NOW.

  105. Phil

    Brilliant trades, selling high on Farnsworth and adding a better catcher to the mix. And he’s probably more likely to be an A type FA than Kyle was. The farm is protected. The Pen can now add Melancon, Bruney, Cox or Britton whenever they want to. This is just outstanding.

  106. Kermit

    Bye bye Professor Farnsworth!

  107. Chris

    As said many times before, Brian Cashman is a stealth operator that never tips his hand.
    One never knows what he has up his sleeve.

  108. americanbear

    Great trade, for all the reasons mentioned above. Total no-brainer.

  109. stet

    farnsy was getting better and i think he worked pretty hard.. but i agree that he’s unreliable and have two handcannons (pudge and jose) behind the plate plus an offensive upgrade is good. he’s not the pudge of olde, but he’s still the pudge. anyone see kyle’s postgame? it made me feel bad for all the times i booed him..

  110. Onkel Bob

    From Yahoo! Sports Team Page:
    “The odds of Detroit making a move before the trade deadline aren’t very high, but if it happens, look for the Tigers to add a veteran relief pitcher who throws strikes.”

    Oh Farnsworth throws strikes alright, right down the middle of the plate!

  111. pat

    Wow. Very emotional clubhouse. I feel bad for Kyle.

  112. Will to the M

    Getting Marte sealed KK’s fate. But I worry about the Vera/Edwar combo come Sept/Oct. Edwar’s change isn’t as effective then, no?

    Any chance of keeping Pudge on to platoon with molina next yr., moving Jorge to 1B (meaning Big G is gone)?

  113. SouthernYank

    Is Cashman pulling a Billy Beane and getting value out of Farnsworth at his peak? A short peak that is.

  114. vinny-b (Cashmoney, Girardi, Nardi, Pettitte, Mo = my NYY 5)

    not to mention. The type A picks we receive, when I-Rod walks, at end of year.

    thank you, Cashmoney.

  115. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    Michael: Well said.

    Not to mention, Molina’s never caught a full season and the last thing the Yankees need is Molina to break down.

    This deal isn’t a steal like the Nady/Marte one, so it doesn’t seem like such a good thing.

    But Farnsworth’s history with the Yankees says that right now we are selling high on him. Yeah, I eel bad ffor him because he’s been so great for us this year.

    But, honestly? It will take a lot for Detroit to make the playoffs: they’re trailing both the ChiSox and Twins in their own division, and Boston/NYY in the Wild Card. Kyle Farnsworth isn’t going to help their starting rotation one bit.

    So we lose our ability to take down someone in a brawl.

    We get another hitter and at the end of the year a class A free agent.

    I can live with that.

  116. trisha - still supporting Farnsy like crazy!

    “I’m reading 3 other Yankee blogs and everyone is ecstatic, why am I surprised that the pack of retards on here don’t approve of this trade? Farnsworth sucks; Pudge is a Type A FA after this season. His OPS+ is = to Jeter’s. Shut up.”

    This post is beyond offensive. There are posters here, I included, who obviously were really pleased with the way Farnsworth had turned things around. I don’t agree with the posters who are thrilled to see him go, but I would never refer to them as a pack of retards.

    It is obvious that not everyone here sees things the same way as everyone else, but it doesn’t make their opinions any less valid.

  117. Confucius

    “And on top of that, you strengthened another contending team’s bullpen. WHY? YOu hurt your team, and help the other. A stupid move all around.”

    Big game, Farnsworth will not frighten me. At all. I was saying it during the Fenway series. For as well as he’d been pitching, you still couldn’t trust him. Bring him on.

    This is shaping up to be Cashman’s best trade deadline period. He’s given this team a major boost, set them up to receive premium draft picks down the road, and he gave up next to nothing.

  118. 86w183

    Matt——Farsnie had ten terrific outings in a row.. it was a great stretch but it is an aberration when you look at his career as a whole and his Yankees career in particular.

    He’s given up 11 HR in 44 innings this year.. ELEVEN!!! The guy is walking time bomb and I for one am thrilled he’s ticking for the Tigers now.

    This is another move that addresses a terrible weakness… offense from behind the plate. It also helps with offense vs LHP… a two-fer.

    Bring on Washburn and make a run!

  119. tim boat

    Replace Farnsworth with Scott Strickland he’s been awesome in Triple A!

  120. CUYanks

    I love Pete, but he was dead wrong on this. He kept dismissing the Yankees looking for a catcher.

  121. Doreen

    I’m just totally shocked. Never in a million years did I see this one coming. Farnsworth had really settled in and the bullpen was clicking (except for the last couple of games).

    They did need another quality catcher, because Molina is not an everyday catcher. We’ll see, I guess.

    Brian Cashman, Stealth GM.

  122. fridayjones

    I don’t understand why anyone wouldn’t love this trade. The bottom third of our lineup was killing this team. You can’t tell me that having IRod batting 7th isn’t worth more than a set up man who can’t pitch on consecutive days.

    And I don’t think this move has anything to do w/ Melancon. Trading Farnsworth opens a spot for Bruney. Not Britton either.

    I’m still hoping for an arm to replace Rasner in the rotation. I think they should leave IPK and Hughes in the minors and let them start fresh next season.

  123. YankeeJosh

    The question is which is better, the Yankees with Molina catching almost every day, Moeller as the back-up and Farnsy in the pen or the Yankees with Pudge starting, Molina backing up, and Bruney or whoever replacing Farnsy in the pem. Time will tell.

  124. Ninja Burglar

    Helloooooooooooo Cashman haters!!!
    Right handed corner outfielder/1st basman: check
    Left handed reliever: check
    Catcher: check
    Back end starter: TBD

  125. migames

    pudge is a type A free agent, we get 2 draft picks out of this trade plus pudge > molina….

  126. Confucius

    “TRY RUNNING ON THE YANKS NOW.”

    They’re not running on our starter or on our backup. We have the best defensive combo in the game, and Pudge can still hit.

  127. flash

    its a good trade but i think it would of been better if they would of gotten salty or teagarden, because its not automatic that posada will comeback like he was before and i dont think montero will stay a catcher.

  128. MoBoy(aka McLovin)

    Wow see I knew Cash had something out there.I still don’t trust Veras and Edwar but Kyle was no better.

    Get Washburn,Trade LaTroy to Twins and lets get ready for the Angels.

  129. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***)

    Seriously people do not fall for the tears, look I like Kyle too as a person but he was FA after this season and lets be honest this month could just be this month…Farnsy is as inconsistant as can be. Ivan can hit, can field, can hold the running game and is a TYPE A FA after this year meaning sandwhich picks early round pick.

    I’ll miss Farnsy as a person but as a SU man I wish him luck.

  130. raymagnetic â„¢

    “Ray..

    Nady said he could work CF in an interview a few days ago.

    Getting Pudge makes the bottom 3 in the lineup a little more difficult for opposing pitchers. Getting Melky out of the line up for a few games using the assets we have makes it even more so for no cost.”

    Back bench,

    I don’t believe Nady is good enough defensively to play CF. Right now Melky hasn’t hit but he’s a very good defender in CF which isn’t really a prime offensive position anyway. Right now you can live with Melky in CF because with Pudge in there you’re not giving away at bats in the 8 AND 9 hole anymore. Melky can go back to hitting 9th and Pudge can hit 7th or 8th. Teams can live with 1 bad bat in the lineup. Teams have won WS with players worse than Melky playing everyday.

  131. TGFizeek

    Where do these people come from? “Losing Farnsworth hurts”?
    Brilliant trade, no secret the Yankees have always loved Pudge. The guy has been clutch in the past, hopefully pulling him out of Detroit will give him something to play for.
    Not to mention we get rid of Farnsworth before he inevitably blows game 2 of our first round playoff series in such a demoralizing way we don’t come back.
    The bullpen is crazy deep but there are still farmhands who could help out so don’t cry for losing an 8th inning guy and addressing the last hole in the lineup!!!

    Does this pressure Seattle to do the Washburn deal (we seem less desparate now)? I really hope so, but think not.

  132. pat

    Cot’s has Pudge as signed through 2008. He’s just a rental.

  133. saucY

    did Piazza officially retire?

  134. Russell W

    “Is Cashman pulling a Billy Beane and getting value out of Farnsworth at his peak? A short peak that is.”

    YES!!!!! Ivan Rodriguez > Jason Varitek!!!!

  135. djsunyc

    what, all of the sudden everybody loves kyle farnsworth? too funny…

  136. MoBoy(aka McLovin)

    Two Puerto Rican Catchers.Can’t beat that.Good trade.

  137. Nud

    For the Yanks to get 2 draft picks they first have to offer Pudge arbitration. Could be a risk if they think there is a chance he will accept it. The Yanks arent going to pay 2 catchers 25 million dollars next year.

  138. pcgpm

    What about replacing Farnsworth with S. Jackson. He has been pretty good for the last month or so.

  139. al arodien

    who are you posting for peter?!

  140. Skippy

    I feel a lot better about this knowing that Pudge’s contract expires this year. I wonder if this is an indicator that they feel really confident in bringing up Melancon soon?

  141. Fernando Alejandro (Respect Jeter's Gangster)

    I suspect this spells the end of Chad Moeller.

  142. GreenBeret7

    People need to get over this Scott Strickland love affair. He’s never been this good, before, so no reason to think he’s suddenly a stud relief pitcher. You’re more likely to get Jim Brower than Edwar Ramirez or Jse Veras.

  143. tim boat

    It’s amazing. The Yankees gave up no minor leaguers, just a guy who wasn’t going be here next year anyway and were dealing from a position of depth and people still complain

  144. Chas

    I feel bad for Kyle. It seems like he was very well-liked by his teammates. Just maybe he found a way to be reliable?

    Getting Pudge patches a big hole the Yankees need to overcome a team like the Angels. Arm + Bat.

  145. Russell W

    “what, all of the sudden everybody loves kyle farnsworth? too funny…”

    Those are the trolls who just got dumbfounded.

  146. douche

    NOOOOO what am i going to do with my farnsworth jersey?!

  147. Skippy

    btw, who are you, Jeff Marx?

  148. Matt

    Great trade in my opinion. Pudge will be a type A. Also, in all likelyhood Moeller will be demoted to AAA and Bruney will be recalled.

  149. Neil

    SEE YA LATER FARNSY

  150. Heinz

    This is a great trade. You deal an arm that eats maybe 1 inning a game and get a solid, type A starting catcher. Who cares if Farns has been lights out lately? An everyday catcher is more important than 1/8 of the bullpen.

    Like it or not, the Tigers have picked up the league’s best Big Buck Hunter player (gonna miss that, Pete).

  151. back bench

    Pudge can also play 1st when Jose is catching, so doesn’t this make Sexon redundant, and make other options possible?

  152. Confucius

    “Ivan Rodriguez > Jason Varitek”

    Sal Fasano > Jason Varitek at this point.

    Another big aspect of this assuming (and the chances have gone up significantly) that we make the playoffs: Pudge has a great postseason history. I’d much rather have him at the plate in a big playoff spot than Farnsworth on the mound.

  153. JR Yankees

    I don’t have time to read through all of the above posts, but apparently Farnsworth was very torn up about being traded. He felt like he had finally put it together to be a dependable 8th inning guy.

    Overall, everything that has been done trade-wise is pointing to us going for it this year. However, we still desperately need a 4/5th starter immediately.

    Now, unfortunately Moeller needs to be DFA’ed and hopefully picked back up assuming nobody picks him off of waivers and then sent to AAA. Then we need another bullpen arm to replace Farnsy and another starter to replace Ponson and then you cannot ask for anything more than that.

  154. The Dude

    Fickle Yankees fans are pissed because they just got rid of the oft-hated Kyle Farnsworth for a guy who is both an immediate upgrade behind the plate and a source of draft pick compensation when they let him go after the season ends.

    Don’t discount a trade for another bullpen arm, either.

  155. george

    well, the combo of this trade and the Nady one is better for the overall roster than getting Bonds. i was definitely wrong to go crazy about Bonds: the team is much better w/Pudge as a Posada replacement and a decent righty OF.

    now there is some depth.

  156. Baja

    eh, its a push. Krazy Kyle is going to implode at some point sooner rather than later, and Pudge is (to be polite) in the twilight of his career.

  157. Chief

    Although Farnsy was having a good season, you just can not trust him in a big spot. Look at last weekend vs. Boston when Mo had to come in the game during the 8th to clean up his mess. And Molina just is not a good hitter. Pudge is a better overall upgrade over Molina. He hits better and is still a great defensive catcher with a great arm. Good trade!

  158. YankeeVIP

    hahah.. its amazing how everyone forgets we CANNOT STAND KYLE.

    everyone that is disappointed by this trade is either not a yankee fan or doesnt understand baseball.

  159. fridayjones

    If IRod plays well and the Yankees make a serious post-season run, why wouldn’t they offer him arbitration? We all know that there is a ton of money coming off the payroll next season.

    And let’s be serious: as much as Posada may have his pride and want to catch, it’s a stretch to think he’ll be 100% by April next year. Giambi will be gone. What’s wrong w/ having Posada as the starting 1B? I’ll bank on him being able to hit next year. I’m guessing this is where they’re going with this.

  160. Jorge Tabata

    How is Pudge’s game-calling abilities? I know he is a good defensive catcher but what about his game-calling?

  161. Chris N.

    I agree with Baja. It wilil be nice to have Pudge in the lineup instead of Molina most days but it is generally sort of a wash in terms of overall impact/significance.

  162. ellen

    Outstanding! Yanks win 13-3 and this news is the icing on the cake.

  163. yankee2123

    Look for Yanks to announce Washburn trade any time now. That will move Rasner into the pen as a long man. Ponson is out once Kennedy returns.

  164. pat

    Cashman on Yes. He’s very emotional too.

  165. yankee2123

    The Boston game sealed Farnsworth’s fate. As good as he’s been, when he had to come up in a big spot he blew it, and Mo had to come in and save his sorry arse.

  166. Furnotye

    Another PED abuser ? No thanks. Why are we collecting these guys ?

  167. tim boat

    People need to get over this Scott Strickland love affair. He’s never been this good, before, so no reason to think he’s suddenly a stud relief pitcher. You’re more likely to get Jim Brower than Edwar Ramirez or Jse Veras.

    Strickland is a decent middle reliever. His career numbers are very respectable and he would be a good middle and late inning option.
    3.34 career ERA and a 1.3 WHIP. He can step in for Farnsworth, Bruney is not ready yet and neither is Melacon.

    http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=4150

  168. jake

    Laura – Every game is a must win game!
    July 30th, 2008 at 4:39 pm
    Now we have two former steroid users on the team. Great..—————————————————————————————————
    The Yankees probably have more than two former steroid users on the team.
    But don’t fret, Laura. EVERY major league team has former steroid users, and probably more than two.

  169. ANSKY

    Pudge could be a good insurance policy until Posada can (or can’t) catch next year.

    If Posada can’t catch (actually, throw) you keep Pudge and move Posada to DH/1B. He may not be ab all-star at 1B but he could be adequate. Probably better on D what the Yanks have put out there since Mientkiewicz left.

    If Posada can throw again and it gets crowded behind the plate, you trade Pudge.

    Either way you keep Molina as his/their backup.

    Farnsworth, for all the struggles leading up to this summer, had actually been pretty good for several weeks. Limiting his use to an inning at a time, 2-3 times a week, seemed to make him more effective. He’d still have brain cramps here & there, but overall he wasn’t doing too bad recently.

    Chronic Cashman critics aside, the net overall gain at the trade deadline this year has been favorable. Maybe not optimally ideal, but favorable.

  170. Don Capone

    Maybe we could get Pudge Fisk for Farnsworth…

  171. pat

    Cashman’s cell phone has gone off 4 times in 3 minutes.

  172. tim boat

    In fairness to Kyle in that Boston game last week, wasn’t one of those 2 hits he allowed an infield dribbler?

  173. NYY

    But don’t the Yanks have to Offer Arbitration to to Pudge after the year to get the type A draft pick.

    So, the yanks have to decline the Option on Pudge and then Offer arbitration to get a draft pick.

  174. Confucius

    Because of reinforcements we have in the minors (namely Kennedy), I’m not as firmly in the ‘get a starter’ camp as some folks are. But Cashman’s filled two bigs needs—an outfielder and a lefty reliever—plus this to offset the loss of Posada without any major sacrifices. If he brings in a back-end starter for nothing, it’s gravy. Wonderful week.

    If Epstein trades Manny, this will officially be the best trade deadline ever. :D

  175. Yankee Trader

    Farnsworth at least going to a contender and a team he played for just before going to the Braves. I’m not surprised that Detroit wanted Farnsworth, as Zumaya is hurt again, but I don’t think Farnsy will make enough of a difference for Detroit, and we have only 1 makeup game against Detroit.

    Brandon Inge now their catcher with a .220 average.

    Pudge is a FA, and does not have a club option. Future HOF, great defensive catcher, good speed, could bat near the top of the lineup.

    One Type B FA for a Type A FA, who the Yankees might resign.

    This is a smart move by the Yankees getting insurance at catcher, while giving up a bullpen arm, who finally after 31/2 years, and a 20M contract showed some moxie!! Farnsy wasn’t going to be resigned anyway!

  176. AeroFANatic

    Damon, Jeter, Abreu, A-Rod, Giambi, Nady, Cano, Pudge, Melky

    Bench : Molina, Betemit, Sexson, Christian

    SP : Joba, Pettite, Mussina, Washburn, Kennedy
    BP : Rivera, Marte, Veras, Edwar, Robertson, Bruney, Rasner

    There is your remaining 2008 roster and lineup folks. If no Washburn, Rasner stays in and Giese stays up as long man.

  177. tim boat

    Wow. Cashman and Girardi are acting like they traded away Derek Jeter. Gimme a break.

  178. CUYanks

    This is reading really far in, but if this is the end of Moeller, then does that have implications on Rasner and the search for a starting pitcher?

  179. jimmy27

    We already have a lead-off hitter!?!?

    great trade: Kyle (good luck) would never be fully trusted in the 8th despite his recent sucess.
    Pudge is Pudge

  180. miggs (NO to Teixeira) (Please ban the Hair Dresser)

    How anyone can dislike this trade is beyond me. We have a ton of great arms in the pen and Pudge will instanly make our lineup deeper and more formidable.

    I really don’t understand you guys. You complain for the sake of complaining.

    You should be applauding Cashman for another great move.

  181. RayBlay

    I am SO po’ed right now. What a blow to the bullpen. Pudge is a jacka**
    Farnsworth has been more than solid. Wasn’t Detroit high on him a while ago, though? Like last year I think?
    Anyways, this sucks big time

  182. kd

    also, it won’t hurt giving up our pick if we sign a type a guy, like maybe CC? great job by the ever stealthy cashman

  183. LC

    Wow. GREAT trade, but poor Kyle. was he really crying?

  184. Jeff

    Great trade.

  185. Central CT Yankee

    Ivan Rodriguez c
    4 years/$40M (2004-07), plus $13M 2008 club option

    * 04:$7M, 05:$8M, 06:$11M, 07:$11M, 08:$13M club option ($3M buyout)

  186. Tom Gaffney

    I hate to say I told you so, Mr. Abraham, but I told you so. I’m surprised you clung to the stance that Cashman wasn’t looking for catching help. Oh well, you’re right 95% of the time, and your blog is awesome.

    Whoever doesn’t like this trade is either a Tiger fan or a blithering nincompoop. This is KYLE FARNSWORTH we’re talking about here!! The human blown save. Are your memories really that short? Great job by Cashman and Girardi to get his value up and get rid of him. We traded a guy who’s AWFUL in the clutch for one of the renowned clutch hitters in baseball. Look at our RISP, folks. We NEED clutch guys. Pudge is one of those guys who actually raises his level of play in the playoffs and he fills a huge hole. I think he might be slightly better than Moeller, don’t you think, hmmmm?

  187. John in Ohio

    Farnsworth may end up as Detroit’s closer. Todd Jones was just taken out of the role.

  188. mel (47-1)

    I leave for two hours and all hell breaks loose.

    We score a ton of runs and we do a trade?

    Heard we got Pudge and Kyle was the first name that popped into my head. Sure enough, he’s gone

    Don’t know how I feel about it. Kyle was rehabilitated and Pudge has “shrunken” a bit. But we need a catcher.

    Best wishes to Krazy Kyle and welcome to Pudge. Can’t tease Pudge now that he’s in pinstripes.

    Go Angels!

  189. ZaWheelz

    did you see farnsworth in fenway? went back to his nornal self.

    whenever he is in during a pressure spot, he buckles.

    bye kyle!!

  190. Confucius

    I think Cashman’s tears were tears of joy.

  191. Ant928

    I may be a bit late (and don’t know who Jeff Marx is) but it’s been posted on the Yankees site. It’s official!

  192. Bombshell

    You really have to be retarded to disaprove of this trade…stop drinking the idiot juice some of you. Farnsworth’s stock will never be higher, we already have a deep ‘pen with Bruney/Melancon available soon if injuries or bad form hits someone in there, Farnsworth has been good lately but as that Sux game showed he gets nervous in huge spots. Meanwhile Pudge isn’t signed long term, he’s hit over .350 the last month and still has sick defense. Also the intangibles of winning it all before is there as well. Molina has always been a backup catcher in his career so he’ll be fine and now our lineup looks that much more deadly. Please think before you post morons.

  193. yankee2

    hughes will take farnsworth spot in the bullpen for the rest of the season if the yanks were smart about it and bring up kennedy, pavano or sign garcia for the end of the rotation think about it like that maybe they’ll do something like that and it will work out in the favor. Now someone please tell me they don’t think Hughes would be great in a setup role for this year like Joba saves him inning and strain on his body for this year

  194. Glenn

    The Yankees do not face Detroit again this year. Kyle can still help the Yankees this weekend as the Tigers face the Rays.

  195. back bench

    “Look for Yanks to announce Washburn trade any time now. That will move Rasner into the pen as a long man. Ponson is out once Kennedy returns.”

    Sure looks like that is the plan. Lots of moves all linked together. Getting Pudge makes Mohler the odd man out, which breaks up the Rasner-Mohler battery (pretty good one, in retrospect), so Rasner gets demoted and Ponson….

    What about Eckstein though? He has 2 WS rings and is just the kind of warrior this team needs right now.

  196. AeroFANatic


    Damon, Jeter, Abreu, A-Rod, Giambi, Nady, Cano, Pudge, Melky

    This should be the lineup on most days. L,R,L,R,L,R,L,R,L

    Does not get any harder than that.

  197. jake

    tim boat
    July 30th, 2008 at 5:07 pm
    People need to get over this Scott Strickland love affair. He’s never been this good, before, so no reason to think he’s suddenly a stud relief pitcher. You’re more likely to get Jim Brower than Edwar Ramirez or Jse Veras.
    Strickland is a decent middle reliever. His career numbers are very respectable and he would be a good middle and late inning option.
    3.34 career ERA and a 1.3 WHIP. He can step in for Farnsworth, Bruney is not ready yet and neither is Melacon.——————————————————————————————————The comment about people needing to “get over this Scott Strickland love affair” was directed at you, Tim.
    Strickland hasn’t had a decent major league season in SIX YEARS.
    And what makes you say that Mark Melancon is not ready, yet? He just hasn’t been called up, yet.
    You seem to think that Farnsworth was an important part of the bullpen. Have you watched any games over the past couple of seasons? Farnsworth has, except on a few occasions here and there, been BAD. His recent spate of competency has been nice, but hardly an indication that he’s become reliable. He’s given up 11 homeruns in 44 innings!!

  198. Matt

    We don’t need to DFA Moeller to activate Bruney, there’s only 39 people on the 40-man roster.

  199. RayBlay

    Was Cashman really emotional? Anyone know where I can get video of that???

    I really hope the Yankees sign Farnsworth this off-season. I really started to love him toward the end of last year

  200. Mike

    YES! YES! YES! YES!
    Good riddance!

  201. luis

    really??? r u kiddin me:)

  202. ANSKY

    Still could make another trade for an arm. Not sure exactly what time the non-waiver cut-off is, but its still possible to pull something off afterwards.

    Still could have someone come up or come back later on too.

    Meantime if Ponson is good enough for the team to win in a little more than half his starts, that’s about what a 4th starter needs to accomplish. He got his but whupped last time out, but overall he’s been that kind of 4th starter so far. Would be nice to upgrade of course but its not like we have a AA-level guy going out there instead of him.

  203. Yankee Trader

    NYY

    The arbitration deadline is 12:01AM on 12/02/08.
    To get the type A your player has to be in top 20% statistically for 2007 and 2008, compared to all catchers.

    Therefore, if Pudge signs before 12/02 with another team, we get 2 draft picks. Or, if he is offered arbitration and declines we get the draft picks.

    The 1st 15 draft picks are protected, so if le’t say KC, should finish as one of the worst 15 teams in the majors, we
    wouldn’t get their 1st pick but would get 2 sandwich picks.

  204. G. Love (*coined the term Prospect Hugger)

    Pretty stunned by this trade. Kyle had admittedly grown on me.

    My first thought upon hearing it is doesn’t this trade make Detroit better and why would we do that? If Kyle pitches as well as he did here this season in Detroit, it helps out their paper thin pen.

    I am definitely happy that we’ll have a legit offensive player behind the plate. I’m just stunned by this deal.

    Has Pudge’s defense really slipped or does he still have his gun?

  205. Bob(The Original)

    Pudge isn’t anywhere near the player he used to be.

    But the Yanks needed to do something. He is an upgrade over Molina and playing Molina everyday was gonna lead to him breaking down anyway.

    And comeon guys, it Farnsworth.

  206. Jeff B.

    This is GREEEEEAT on Pudge, what a headline:

    http://thesportshernia.typepad.com/blog/2008/07/yanks-acquire-c.html

  207. Don Capone

    Man, I thought this was a joke. Farnsworth for Pudge? Wow.

  208. Allena

    I thought this post was a joke until I just saw it on ESPN. Even though I am a Farnsworth fan, I feel relief. Great pickup for the yankees.

  209. Patrick â„¢

    How do you know Pudge will be a type A? I doubt it…

    I still like the trade though.

  210. Bronxie Brenda

    As said many times before, you can pave the streets of the Bronx in 24 karat gold and somebody will complain about the glare.

  211. Del From Hieroglyphics

    I like this move…but Kyle wasnt just good for a few games…he has been good pretty much the whole season. Just like his career has always been…2 bad years followed by a good year. I actually like Kyle, but this move greatly improves our team.

  212. back bench

    “Damon, Jeter, Abreu, A-Rod, Giambi, Nady, Cano, Pudge, Melky

    This should be the lineup on most days. L,R,L,R,L,R,L,R,L”

    “On most days.” Does anyone else see this as a demotion for Jose?

  213. Yankee Trader

    Glenn: The Yankees have a 1:05 makeup game on Monday Sept. 1st at Detroit.

  214. Jeff Marx

    For those asking … I’m a web developer in the online department at the Journal News/Lohud.com. I occasionally post for Peter when he cannot get to his machine and he needs to get something on the blog right away.

  215. NongEyeJon

    This is an interesting move…could it be that Posada’s shoulder is more damaged than anyone really knows and first base is his destination? As for Melancon coming up this year, I wouldn’t count on it…he’s nearing his innings limit.

  216. Jorge Tabata

    BTW – Pudge waved his NTC to come here.

    sports.yahoo.com/mlb/news;_ylt=AsTT8DUcgr1g7PrJ0LVtQLsi0bYF?slug=ap-tigers-yankees-trade&prov=ap&type=lgns

    “Pudge had a no-trade clause and he waived it today to go to New York,” Rodriguez’s agent, Scott Boras, told The Associated Press on Wednesday afternoon. “Pudge has always wanted to play in New York and Detroit felt it needed a relief pitcher, so both sides were able to get what they wanted to some degree.”

  217. hclunited

    This is a great trade. Relievers are the Yanks unsung strength this year. The Yankees have been paring the bottom feeders of the bullpen. Hawkins gone, now Farnsworth. You never know what to expect from Kyle.

    Pudge fills a huge weakness for the Yanks. I would not depend on Moeller or Molina in the playoffs. Pudge still has a 36% caught stealing percent, and bats both lefties and righties well (~.295). Plus, he is a free agent after this season.

    What is there not to like???? Plus, Pudge gave up his no-trade clause to come here. He wants to win and won’t be a problem.

  218. Reggie44

    Melancon was shut down after warmups last night, I believe. Chad Jennings didn’t have an update on why, hopefully nothing injury related.

  219. Central CT Yankee

    Pudge waived his no trade to come to the Yankees

  220. Matt(NY)

    There are pros and cons to every trade. We lose a valuable arm in the bullpen, but it is not like we don’t have other arms to replace him. We gained a very good defensive catcher and one who is no longer an automatic out in our lineup. In addition, we gained a type A free agent. It was not a given that Molina could handle the work load for the rest of the season, therefore making this even better. You can make an argument on both sides for this being a bad or good trade, but the fact of the matter is, this is a much better trade for us at this moment in time. People are upset that he is a “washed up catcher”, or something along those lines. Well, Farsny isn’t getting any younger either folks. This trade works for both sides and will help us both defensively and offensively. I don’t see how the negatives outweigh the positives on this one.

  221. pat

    “Was Cashman really emotional? Anyone know where I can get video of that???”

    Yes. Said this is the tough part of GM job when you have to give this kind of news to really good people. Will probably be up on yesnetwork.com later tonight.

  222. Central CT Yankee

    Jorge…beat me to the punch

  223. DLev

    The big problem with this trade is that Molina has quietly done an outstanding job with the pitchers. His CERA is 3.6. Posada and Moeller are both at 4.6. Maybe Pudge can do much the same thing—he’s at 4.2 while Inge is at 5.2 (what are the Tigers thinking?). But if he doesn’t do as good a job with the starters, the season could well be over in the next month.

  224. 86w183

    Pudge has played very little 1B… not something he wants to make a habit of and not something I want to see much of… plus our infielders are not accurate enough for a 5’9” 1B!!! lol

    I htink you have to say goobye to Moeller and either hold on the Hawkins or activate an arm for the bullpen. Not sure Bruney is ready just yet… Melancon would be intriguing…

    Remember Marte is not a Left on Left specialist. He made two awful pitches theother day, but I still like this pen

  225. Mike

    Now that Farnsworthless is gone….bring up MELANCON!!!!

    http://thefinalseason.blogspot.com/

  226. trisha - still supporting Farnsy like crazy!

    It’s really good to see so many posters here saying the things they are, giving Kyle his due.

    I don’t think it’s any secret that I was one of Kyle’s biggest supporters on this forum, but I have always deferred to the decisions of the organization because I know their knowledge and judgement is so far superior to any forum poster’s knowledge and judgement. The organization makes the decisions and then it is up to the players to get the job done. So when people whine about moves that Cashman has made I totally ignore it because once the scouting is done, the organization can only hope that the player is going to get the job done. We’ve seen a lot of cases where highly sought out players who ended up in the Bronx just couldn’t get the job done.

    I’m sad for the team and for Kyle; I trust the judgement of the people in control; and I wish Kyle the best wherever he goes. If Cashman and Girardi had so much difficulty with this decision, it should tell you that any personal hatred and venom you may feel for Kyle is likely extremely misplaced and you likely have trouble letting go of the past and dealing in the here and now. I’m sure it wasn’t Kyle’s sparkling personality they were feeling bad about but rather their acknowledgement that he had become a really valuable cog in the wheel and that he was out there giving us his best – and that best was very very good.

    I think it’s a really nice tribute to Kyle that so many people here, even some who heretofore probably wanted him to disappear, are coming to his defense.

  227. randyhater

    I like Molina as much as anybody but there is no way he was going to hold up playing everyday down the stretch. Pudge is just as good a defender and is still a legit bat, and as others have pointed out, has had big post season moments.

    Factor in that he’s playing for a contract and will net two picks this winter (and we unload Farnsworth before he turns into a pumpkin!) and this is an absolute steal.

    Another terrific deal for Cash. Maybe he’s not a clueless incompetent afterall.

  228. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***)

    Seriously we get 2 picks for someone we weren’t going to bring back after this year and we get probably the best catching duo at holding the running game w/ Molina & Rodriguez.

    If you were to try to do this trade on MLB2k8 it would be rejected. :lol:

  229. CUYanks

    Now we have one of the best defensive catching duos ever that doesn’t consist only of Molinas.

  230. Jeff NJ

    Great trade. I wonder which reliever is next called up, Bruney or Melancon.

  231. kd

    ladies and gentlemen, who would you rather have, moeller or pudge? it’s a HUGE upgrade. shipping out farnsworth is classic addition by subtraction.

  232. Confucius

    “How do you know Pudge will be a type A? I doubt it…”

    No, he’s been good enough to classify as a type A. He’ll need to pass on arbitration, but with Boras as his agent that’s likely. Even if he doesn’t though, you can do worse than Pudge in ‘09 with Posada’s status as everyday catcher in serious doubt.

  233. S.o.S.27

    HELL YEAH!! Just got in and thought Al from bk was at it again. This has to be one of the best trade deadlines i can remember. Please save me the Kyle Krap. Se la vi. Melancon come on down!! I love this team!!!

  234. hclunited

    Hmmm, interesting… Maybe they platoon Pudge and Posada next year. I could see Pudge signing a 2-year contract with the Yankees in the offseason. Seems like he wouldn’t mind ending his career in the new Yankee Stadium and a championship. That would help his legacy after all that steroid talk.

  235. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *18) (Arod .323 AVG can't buy a hit w/ RISP) (X-factor my ***)

    Melancon was shut down after warmups last night, I believe. Chad Jennings didn’t have an update on why, hopefully nothing injury related.

    He was just promoted to AAA..my guess is he is NY bound soon.

  236. RayBlay

    awwww I can’t believe after all Farnsworth has put this franchise through that Brian Cashman still loves him :/ how cute

  237. Rebecca--Optimist Prime

    G. Love: Not as good as Molina, but hella better than Posada.

    ie, more than competent.

    Baseball Prospectus on Pudge:

    We think of pudge as being durable, but he’s caught 130 games or more just once since 1999 (doing so with the Marlins in 2003). His legendary arm may be slipping a bit as well; the 68 attempts against him last year tied his high since 1999, the 47 steals he allowed were his most since 1993, and his 31% throwout rate, though still above average, was the lowest of his career. Given where his offense has gone-39 unintentional walks since 2004 and sub .300 OBPs twice in three years-he’s now an average player at best. He’s also a 36-year-old backstop who has been catching in the major leagues since he was 19.

    So, an all star he is not, but he is still much better than Jason Varitek ;)

  238. Bronx Jeers

    Wow. This is a shocker. Kyle’s been great this season but his carriage was about to turn into a pumpkin any day. Pudge adds a decent bat into a gaping hole in the lineup. I likey!!!!

  239. TurnTwo

    “If you were to try to do this trade on MLB2k8 it would be rejected.”

    ha! probably.

  240. S.o.S.27

    Trisha,
    You need to change it to “Support the run stoppers”.

  241. Yankee Trader

    Patrick
    Pudge will be a Type A, based on his likelihood that he finishes with stats compared to other catchers in the top 20% for both the last two years combined.

    And no, 36yo Pudge is not the same player he was, but he’s still better than most catchers not named Martin, Mauer, or McCann- the 3 Big M Amigos!!!

  242. G. Love (*coined the term Prospect Hugger)

    Guess we’re really not in a transition year anymore. The Yanks are going for it this season.

    I like it.

  243. CB

    I really can’t believe they just pulled this off, if it is really true.

    Farnsworth has finally made himself useful.

    I was going to post something on this prior but figured there was no point as there wasn’t much they could do with the catching situation.

    Even when you have a great offense it is very difficult to carry a player who is playing at replacement level production.

    Molina this year with the bat has been a replacement level catcher. He’s been that awful with the bat. You only have 27 outs in a game – when you have a player like Molina who makes out at such a high rate he bruns up 4 of those 27 outs way too often.

    Again – not Molina’s fault – he’s a back up. But regardless, its a major problem trying to carry a replacement level player no matter how good the offense is.

    And this offense hasn’t been that great this year.

    When people have looked at the impact of having a replacement level bat in a line up the results have not been pretty. Carrying that kind of player has often made the difference between making the playoffs and missing the playoffs, espcecially when races are tight – like they are this year.

    Quite honestly, going into the trade deadline, the yankees single biggest need was finding a catcher. Every other issue was secondary. That’s how much of an impact carrying a player like Molina as an everyday player makes.

    Molina’s line to date: .229 .279 .307 – that’s a .586 OPS

    Replace that with Pudge – .295 .338 .417 – that’s a .756 OPS.

    I can’t emphasize how enormous that upgrade is. To replace a .586 OPS player with a .756 OPS player is just enormous.

    And on top of that the yankees will get a better draft pick for Pudge than they will for Farnsworth.

    Just an unbelievable deal.

    Once again we see how Cashman is using all of the accumulated pitching talent to make the big lead team better now.

    Tremendous deal.

  244. Al from BK

    This must mean that Marte is now the 8th inning guy or Melancon is knocking on the door. Overrall I still dont trust Farnsy in a big spot and Pudge is still a top 10 ML catcher.

  245. Tim

    Stupid move – really stupid move. Girardi finally gets Farnsworth to be the 8th inning pitcher the Yankees wanted and needed and then they unload him for an over-the-hill catcher. Really dumb; if they really needed a bat that bad they should have gotten Bonds for $400k. I am very disappointed.

  246. voiii

    Wow, since when did “Krazy Kyle” become such a fan favorite?

    You people drinking the Kyle Kool-aid have really short memories…Are you going to trust him in the 8th during a 1 run game against Boston or Tampa? The Yankees traded from a very deep pool of Bullpen Arms…There are 3 more in SWB that can come in and replace Kyle. We filled a huge void in the back end of the line-up and did not lose compensatory draft picks next year. Where is the down side?

  247. Dr. J

    Just bring up Melancon if he has a few good innings of AAA.

    His IP limit has to be around 100 with the way he has been used.

  248. CUYanks

    Apparently Pudge waived his no-trade clause to come to the Yankees… reason to like him even more

  249. Al from BK

    If Cash can now swap Igawa for Washburn he will be left alone for the rest of the year.

  250. S.o.S.27