Game 112: Yankees at Rangers
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 04, 2008 
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YANKEES (61-50)
Damon DH
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A. Rodriguez 3B
Giambi 1B
Nady LF
Cano 2B
I. Rodriguez C
Christian CF
Chamberlain RHP
Joba Chamberlain (4-3, 2.24) vs. the Texas hitters.
Vicente Padilla (12-5, 4.52) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees have won two straight but are coming off a 3-4 homestand. … The Yankees are 25-24 on the road. … Bobby Abreu was 12 of 27 on the homestand with 11 runs scored, nine RBI and four homers. … Cabrera is 3 for his last 23, which explains his absence from the lineup. … The bullpen has a 7.09 ERA over the last eight games. … The Yankees have won 21 of their last 29 games against Texas and 11 of the last 12 in Arlington. … The Yankees are watching 300 in the clubhouse.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 6:44 p.m., GIESE ON FRIDAY: Joe Girardi said Dan Giese will start Friday. Rasner is going to the bullpen. Ian Kennedy is Fredo it seems.
UPDATE, 6:52 p.m.: Phil Hughes will pitch for Scranton on Thursday. Carl Pavano will pitch for Trenton that night. Hughes will be up to 60-65 pitches.
UPDATE, 6:54 p.m.: We talked to Mariano Rivera, who said to check back with him after BP as he wants to play catch first. He seemed to be moving a little stiffly. Marte would close if needed.
UPDATE, 7:45 p.m.: Mo played long toss, shagged flies and said he’s ready to pitch.
UPDATE, 7:50 p.m.: Lots of e-mails about Phil Hughes’ velocity. Here is what he said to Chad Jennings tonight:
“It was good. Obviously it was in short stints, so maybe that had something to do with it, but the last couple outings I’ve been 93, 94, 95 so that was encouraging. That was the one thing, I didn’t know how my arm strength would be coming back after not throwing for two months, so that was good.â€
UPDATE, 8:21 p.m.: Shave the ‘stache, get a big hit. Baseball is a simple game.
The Big G cracked a few jokes before the game about shaving his infamous ‘stache. The clubhouse kids, he said, wanted to save the hairs. But they’re gone. “That kind of creeped me out,” Giambi said. “Who knows what they’d find in there?”
UPDATE, 10:01 p.m.: Well, that can’t be good. The trainer comes out to the mound and goes back with Joba. No word from the Yankees what happened.
UPDATE, 10:39 p.m.: The Yankees announced that Chamberlain has a stiff right shoulder. That could mean just about anything, none of it good. We’ll talk to Girardi later, but don’t expect much in the way of information.
UPDATE, 10:49 p.m.: So it seems that Xavier Nady is the man. Huge shot there for the Yankees.
UPDATE, 11:24 p.m.: Mo said he could pitch before the game but wasn’t warming when Damon doubled. That would seem to indicate he’s out again.
No word beyond what they said initially on Joba. … This could be asking a lot of Marte. The leadoff walk is a bad sign, obviously.
UPDATE, 11:27 p.m.: Sorry for the technical issues with the blog tonight. One way or another, we’ll get it fixed hopefully. I have nothing to do with the tech side.
Meanwhile, David Robertson is warming. Mo must be out.
UPDATE, 11:33 p.m.: Rays lose, Sox lose. Yankees life and death with Texas. This would be a big opportunity to miss.
lol Christian’s so great he catches too!
Justin Christian can catch now too?
He is the man.
Pete, when you travel,who do you travel with? Other writers, the team plane, can you tell us what it’s like?
I know Joba can be prone to bouts of wildness, but two catchers seems a bit much.
Thank God, Christian is in the lineup. He truly earned his spot for tonight’s game.
I really wouldn’t be surprised to see him find a frequent spot out there. Obviously less at-bats, but he’s still hitting better than Melky.
love seeing christian in the lineup, nice reward for what he contributed to yesterday’s win
any lineup without melky is a good lineup
Christian is the fastest catcher ever
Wow…no negative posts about the line-up yet…keep the positivity!!!
“300″ its an old one!!! why that?
Christian earned this start. Let’s hope he’s as big today as he was yesterday.
300 is an amazing move. Seriously, one of the best ever. Maybe I’ll go watch it now.
Also, JC is the man, and Joe G still hasn’t learned that he has got to move Giambi in the line up.
Texas’ pitching is so bad. If the Yanks arms can limit the Rangers to 4-5 runs per game, 3 out of 4 should be a cinch.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3519111
Pete do you know anything about that story?
Rebecca — If you enjoyed 300, that’s fine, but if you really think it’s “one of the best ever” you need to have your head examined.
…And I wish I had an edit button.
Oops.
Giambi better show up and get a good start on the post-’stache era.
christian catching, hmmm now ive seen everything
Bryan: See, the thing is, for me it’s two hours of staring at the hottest guys in the known universe
.
(Yes, I know it’s two hours of shoddy writing and pure testosterone, but that’s not the point)
Rebecca: That’s perfectly acceptable.
wow, this might be a wakeup call for melky. starting a righty vs. Padilla in center. interesting
“Yankees…!! What is your profession..?!” AAAUUUU!! AAAUUU!! AAAUUU!!!
Rodriguez behind the plate and Christian behind the batter’s head.
300 – what better way to get pumped for a series.
thank god no melky. i hope christian does well if only to keep melky on the bench.
Rebecca: Couldnt agree with you more about 300!! a bunch of ripped, sweaty men in leather shorts? yes please.
My only complaint with the lineup is what I’ve been saying these last few days. Giambi needs to be moved down with Nady taking the 5th spot. I don’t care how many mustaches Giambi shaves; he’s a rally killer. Get him away from A-Rod and maybe A-Rod sees some decent pitches to hit.
Could someone please make another joke about Pete making a slight mistake and omitting the F in CF?
“We are…SPARTA!!!”
lets go yankees!
300 is what they should watch in the clubhouse before every series with Boston.
“christian catching, hmmm now ive seen everything”
I heard he’s taking Rasners next start.
Seriously. Does Giambi have naked pictures of Girardi. Glad he shaved the stache. But he doesnt belong at the 5 till he gets hot again.
Ready your breakfast and eat hearty, for tonight we dine in HELL! (Texas is just as hot..)
Girardi is probably trying to get Giambi going by sandwiching him between A-Rod and Nady. Hoping he’ll see some pitches to hit.
Torre used to do that with the #2 slot by moving players up to it when they were slumping.
The downside to this strategy is that A-Rod might get pitched around.
(Homer predictions) damon, cano, christian
Rebecca, that comment you made shows what kind of person you are. If only the same thing could be said about you.
Who comes to a baseball blog to argue about the “hottest man on the universe”. Wow, I thought different of you. Desperate.
Glad to see Christian being rewarded for his play yesterday. Plus, Melky needs to see that if he doesn’t produce, he will be replaced.
Christian is planning on starting at the plate and running with the ball when teh batter hits it out there. Betcha he beats the ball there.
he earned it. youre on notice melky. step it up now.
Hopefully the Melky everyday CFer era is over.
Why not switch Giambi and Cano?
Laura, Christian is being awarded with a start at catcher. Anyone here think, Pudge is playing center?
It was hard to watch 300 in the theatre and eat my M & M’S and raisen nets next to my wife. I had to sell her on”the guys ripped is computer generated”.
“… Cabrera is 3 for his last 23, which explains his absence from the lineup. …”
As if three months of a sub .300 OBP and sub .600 OPS wasn’t enough.
It would be kinda cool if on the last day if we secured a playoff spot or are out to give everyone a chance to play some different position. I say Arod pitches
Something tells me that Joba is going to finally get some run support tonight. The Yanks have hit Padilla well in the past.
Christian isnt going to replace Melky for long, but it’s good to see him get a shot at some playing time and give Melky a day off.
Hey, I recognize Christian can administer angels’ last rites. My question is can he play CF? Better yet, HAS he played CF?
300 is one of the gayest movies ever! Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but let’s call it what it is.
No, you won’t see A-Rod on the mound. Why risk injury like that?
Giambi is getting pitches to hit and he is not hitting them, he had 2 great pitches to hit and hit both to right field/side.
Gotta love how everybody used to complain that Girardi changed the line up too much and now people are complaining that he isn’t changing the lineup enough. I really don’t think putting Giambi 6th instead of 5th is going to make too much of a difference. With Nady hitting, let Giambi get on base at his normal rate and the Yankees will score some runs.
Respect to Frank Miller but this should be shown before Sox series’
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v.....re=related
Sorry A Rod, no protection for you in the lineup again tonight. You’re on your own.
Too bad Shelley isnt on the team. He would have kicked someone(like in 300. when the messenger was kicked into the hole)going to second. I think he would have a good explanation for doing.
“Why not switch Giambi and Cano?”
Cano was in a 3 for 26 funk before yesterday’s PH appearance.
how does girardi expect us to win with nobody in centerfield tonight? talk about mailing in the game.
looks like abreu and nady have their work cut out for them in the field.
Let’s Try: And you know the Erin Andrews comments that appear on here all the time?
Anyway, I have a boyfriend, so no, I’m not desperate.
I just like my eye candy.
I’d consider flip-flopping Cano and Giambi, or bat Giambi 8th.
Wow. Can’t believe that Girardi had the equipment to sit melky.
Next step, get Giambi out of the 5-hole.
THIS IS JOOOBBAAAAAAAA!!!!
I would think Melky is just getting a day off. Those of you who think this is a shot at Melky or a possibility that he loses his starting job will be sorely disappointed tomorrow when he’s back in CF.
Those bums they should be getting ready for the game in that 110 degree heat!!
i hope that 300 inspire them to be fierce and agresive for the rest of the season!
Just two more months (hopefully three) of the Giambino, in any case.
“300 is one of the gayest movies ever! Not that there’s anything wrong with that, but let’s call it what it is.”
I remember there were two characters that seemed overly fond of each other. Still, it’s a good battle movie. The Yankees need it for inspiration.
GIDP tandem still in order, Nady batting in a spot wher RISP will be wasted. JESUS CHRIST GET IT RIGHT !
Fredo,
From the last thread. The mets have been trying to get Nady back since they traded him away.
If we don’t sign Nady, they will.
“I would think Melky is just getting a day off.”
Sadly, you are quite likely correct.
Anyone know what the fallout on this could be?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3519111
Melky=Scott Broscious of th 08 team. They dont expect him to hit. Just make plays on the field. We have other guys that need to pull their weight.
Rebecca, sorry, I just call it how I see it.
Brandon,
Are you referring to having Damon lead off and Jeter second?
I assume you are because you’ve been harping on it for days now. Get over it. It isn’t happening. You have a better chance of Carl Pavano pitching in pinstripes.
where*
Christian should at least play CF when the Yanks face a lefty. That wouldn’t overly expose him.
Except Scott Brosius built his legend on clutch.
I’m glad to see all that talk about it being 107 degrees in Arlington, Texas was nothing but a big exaggeration. I just checked… it’s only 103.6 lol
This is great seeing Christian starting in CF – I’ve been saying for weeks now that it’s just a matter of time before Christian replaces Melky in the line-up – let’s hope he keeps it up, and then in Sept, we can have another look at Gardner…
Gardner, BTW, had a tough time with the AA>AAA transition and then was fine, so I think that with time, he’ll be fine at the MLB level…
Sadly kickbacks occur for all teams. Not sure why the article chooses to focus just on Yankee prospects when 20 individuals from a variety of teams are being investigated.
I guess by putting “Yankee prospects” in the title gets more page views.
True, Rebecca, and I think Brosius hit better than .250 as a Yankee.
“Anyone know what the fallout on this could be?
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....id=3519111”
Some fired scouts, some of whom might be jailed, and an international draft.
Melky is just getting a day in the 107 degree heat. Don’t read anything into it.
As much as I want to scream every time I read “Christian replacing Melky in the lineup” comments I’ll keep it to myself. Then tomorrow I can read all of the “Why is Melky back in the lineup!?!” comments.
“Anyone know what the fallout on this could be?”
Some scouts get fired? I’m not shocked that this story broke, a lot of people have been talking about how corrupt the Latin American signing is. I’m sure this is just the tip of the iceberg. Perhaps the guy that was in charge of Latin America signings that was fired a few months ago has something to do with this.
Just out of curiosity, where are folks from? I’ve been out in the Bay Area, CA for 11 years — originally from Westchester.
What is the deal with Girardi continuing to hit Giambi 5th. I almost feel bad for ARod. Almost.
Why play Christian against a tough righty?
“Melky is just getting a day in the 107 degree heat. Don’t read anything into it.”
Why do you want to spoil our fun? :p
Phil- 27 in ’08,
The Red Sox and White Sox are also involved. A Red Sox scout was recently fired when he refused to answer questions from the feds. The investigation took off when a White Sox scout was questioned at an airport about the $40,000 in cash he was carrying.
ZMAN7777,
What difference does it make if Melky hits lefties or righties? He cant get the ball past the infield these days.
I remember Brosious hitting .250 a couple times. Correct me fellas if im wrong. Maybe im mixing his stats with Hayes or Ryans son.
“What is the deal with Girardi continuing to hit Giambi 5th. I almost feel bad for ARod. Almost.”
His wife is contesting the pre-nup agreement. I DO feel sorry for him.
I don’t think it would hurt if they moved Giambi down in the order.
EricVA how many GIDP do I have to witness from Capt. 643 ? and how many more times is Giambi’s .198 w/ RISP going to be useful for this team over Nady’s .333 w/ RISP…huh. I guess I don’t have reason in this. When Kinsler makes a simple play on a hard shot by Damon my guess is we’ll go back to this.
20 min from San Diego.
“Not sure why the article chooses to focus just on Yankee prospects when 20 individuals from a variety of teams are being investigated.”
Might be new news. That there was an issue with this kind of thing is old news. 1st time I’ve seen the Yankees organization included in it though. Around the time Inoa signed with the A’s, the Yankees gassed a member of their international scouting staff. Wonder whether there is a connection?
My point, SoS, was that I don’t think Christian is an everyday player. I’m not defending Melky at all.
Brandon,
I’m not saying your argument doesn’t have merit. I’m just saying it’s not happening.
Man I was hoping that Giambi was going to drop to 7th and Nagy & Cano would be moved up…..Unless Jason starts to hit this is a move that must be made soon….
northern New Jersey, but shortly moving to the Bronx.
Melky went up to Girardi and asked “Why am I not playing?” Girardi simply responded “This is Sparta!!!”
Christian = Endy Chavez.
Gardner is batting .186 in his last 10 games at AAA, he doesnt not deserve another chance here at all this year, 2 names i am sick of hearing on this blog are Manny and Brett Gardner and #1 is gardner.. Lets GO YANKEES 2nite. Hope Nady and Abreu shared what every they r drinking with the rest of the boys on the plane
Fredo Corleone,
Per ESPN:”Last week, the Red Sox’s Dominican scouting supervisor, Pablo Lantigua, was fired after MLB investigators confronted him about allegedly skimming signing bonuses, according to an MLB source.”
I guess a headline on ESPN about the Yanks is sexier than one about the Red Sox.
if you cant win after watching 300 you cant win at all
Rebecca-I support you in your comments. It’s good to see the female side every once in a while. The Erin Andrews, etc. comments can get a little tedious. Although, I think I would rather watch several players on the Yankees, as opposed to the computer generated ones, but that’s just me.
ZMANN7777,
I agree that Christian isnt the answer. But Melky does need a day off and our championships didnt have 9 players batting over .300. Ill take his .250 if he keeps playing good defense and not do like his bff Cano first pitch swinging. Id prefer to see Cano,Jeter,Giambi step up.
There’s a town in northwestern New Jersey called Sparta.
I wonder if they show 300 at their ootball games…
ZMan – Morris county NJ
Girardi probably wants to break up the lefties.
Doesn’t matter where Giambi/Nady/Jeter/Arod hit…. we should pound Padilla tonight, if we don’t, we’re in trouble.
We are going to have to keep this game 3-1 or 2-0 to win it
my god the way today’s lineup is made it setups GIDP off the top, a walk or hit w/ Abreu, Arod no pitches and Giambi pop up, Nady then comes up w/ no one on and Robi Cano is his protection ? …I’ll see you guys later. 
Rebecca,
Don’t even reply to people like that. Somebody who’s willing to insult you based on saying you like to look at good-looking men needs to get a life.
Plus, every guy here is perfectly willing to watch topless women run around for two hours. So we’re even…right?
:-p
Articles about a variety of teams have been running on this topic for at least two years now. The Yanks already fired someone a few months back. Maybe MLB is serious about cracking down on it…but I doubt it. Selig’s usual pattern of action is to wait, wait, then wait some more until he is forced to act much too late after the fact.
Drive 4-5:
You’re making my point, dude. I’ve been seeing stuff on the Latin American signings for months, beginning with that White Sox scout. I saw the Red Sox scout thing late last week and some stuff with Bowden and the Nationals before that. This is the 1st I’ve heard of the Yankees being identified as an organization involved in this. But the problem as a whole has been well documented.
This is probably the best lineup we had in a while.
“if you cant win after watching 300 you cant win at all”
I was just thinking. In 300, they all ended up dying. Im not really sure how much of a motivation watching that movie is.
They’re watching 300? Don’t the yankees get their fix of big muscled men in thongs from seeing Giambi in the locker room every day?
give giambi a rest
I’m a little amazed that this hasn’t blown up in our ffaces yet, in the era of bloggers and 24 hour news…
Brandon, que piensas?
I’m picturing the whole team watching a scary movie…
Melky totally jumps into Edwar’s arms during a frightening scene, like Shaggy and Scooby.
Fair point on the Yankees offense. If there’s any team and any place where they should put up 8+ runs per game, it’s against the Rangers, versus that pitching staff, in 100-degree, heavy-air Arlington.
Regarding the kickbacks thing… obviously it goes against the Yankees’ interests to have employees getting kickbacks… (stealing money from the players and/or the team, essentially)). So, as far as fallout, it’s not like it was tampering or something unethical on the Yankees’ part, it’s soley on the employees who were demanding these kickbacks. So yeah, firings, charges, whatever… but it’s not like the Yankees were bribing the kids families or something that gave them an illegal/unethical edge over other teams.
300 has been spoofed more than night at the roxbury I dont know why the Yanks would watch that they should watch dark knight on bootleg.
“Don’t even reply to people like that. Somebody who’s willing to insult you based on saying you like to look at good-looking men needs to get a life.”
Maybe that person never had a girl look at him? Memo to men who dont have a six pack but rather a 12. Its o.k. to keep your shirt on at the pool/beach. Oh and dont wear a spedo/thong like Giambi. Im about an 8 pack right now. But working on it!! If anyone saw the movie meet the spartans. They spray painted their six packs. Im trying to find the right paint.
“I’m picturing the whole team watching a scary movie…
Melky totally jumps into Edwar’s arms during a frightening scene, like Shaggy and Scooby.”
Veras and Mo share popcorn A-rod covers his face during the bad scenes.LOL
Help Save Baseball. Stop the Pitch Count.
Please sign our petition and share this website with every baseball fan you know
http://stopthepitchcount.com/
How long will it take Girardi to lose patience with Giambi like Torre did last year?
“I’m a little amazed that this hasn’t blown up in our ffaces yet, in the era of bloggers and 24 hour news…”
It’s not a “Yankees problem” Rebecca. It’s a “Baseball problem”. People involved will likely be fired and/or worse and the whole international signing is likely to be a lot more regulated (i.e an international draft). As I understand it, Jim Bowden’s name aside, these scouts are not acting in concert with GM’s but instead looking to screw the organization by stealing money from them.
LMAO! I can totally see Joba humming the theme music, too.
Fredo Corleone,
In the reports I read a couple of weeks ago, the Yankees were named. One article had a quote from Melky’s mom saying that she was surprised to hear their scout’s name mentioned because all of Melky’s signing bonus went directly to her and she can account for all of it.
There are obviously a lot of underhanded people taking advantage of folks that are living near poverty. It’s good that some light is being shed on the subject.
It’s because it’s a baseball problem and not a Yankee problem that I’m surprised more hasn’t been made about this story.
From the July 17 NY Daily News
http://www.nydailynews.com/spo.....ing_m.html
Until the draft rules are changed and the amateur draft becomes international, nothing will change down there. Buscones will continue to run rampant and corrupt scouts will continue to skirt the rules.
Looks like it’s time for another e-mail campaign to the ombudsman at espn.
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn.....id=2826900
I REALLY hate the pitch count. Obviously it is dangerous if you let a starter go 120+ every time out. However to never let a starter go 100+ is a travesty and something that is wrong with the game.
“Help Save Baseball. Stop the Pitch Count.”
No offense, but what manager/GM/Team Owner is going to listen to some petition? If team doctors tell them it’s better to limit pitches, and I’m making an assumption that there is medicine behind pitch counts, they are of course going to listen to doctors over baseball fans.
Isn’t it possible that the examples you gave of guys who clearly didn’t need pitch counts were the exception?
On the pitch count petition:
What are they gonna do? Ban pitch counters? Besides the only reason teams keep pitchers from throwing too many pitches is the amount of money players are being paid. The teams should have the right to protect their investments. When you sign a pitcher to a 5 year $55 million dollar contract, you want to make sure he holds up over the terms of a contract. Holding him at a pitch counts helps achieve that goal.
When Venditte makes the big club, two-catcher lineups will be much more common. Not sure why Joba needs it, but Girardi has been pushing the right buttons lately.
Pitch counts are about keeping pitchers healthy.
I’d rather have Joba pitch 7 innings for 20 years than 9 innings for 10.
Christian is getting a start so relax.. his chances of being in there everyday is very low..
how is he as a center fielder? Melky needs some rest and to speed up his bat.
The Melky-Brosius comparisons are silly. Brosius was an established major leaguer when the yanks got him. He’d been a very inconsistent offensive player–and remained that way through his Yankees’ career–but always showed at least some power, which helped to make up for his offensive shortcomings.
If Melky had 12 homeruns and 60 RBI right now, I’d feel a whole lot better about his .240 average. But, after a surprising burst of power early in the season, he hasn’t done squat, and his sub-.650 OPS is TERRIBLE.
Rebecca,
7 innings for 20 years…that would be amazing. He’d have a chance for 300 wins
1/2 of my prayers have been answered…Justin Christian is playing. Now all we need is to remove Giambi from the 5 spot.
I think 300 is a movie with that Australian actor in it.
Rebecca- What do you think if Joba throws 105 pitches his arm will fall off? Pitch counts and not allowing a guy to throw 120 every time is fine, but stopping your ace at 95 pitches every time out because of pitch count is atrocious.
Maybe the Yankees should watch Meet The Spartans, a spoof on 300.
Google you tube spoof on movie 300, and pick the 2nd one down You Tube 300 Spoof a 4 minute pretty funny exerpt.
Eric: He started at 21, so 20 years = 41. Doable, though not likely.
Al: Oh, I agree, 105 is different than 122. 105 will get you through 7.
“Al: Oh, I agree, 105 is different than 122. 105 will get you through 7.”
Fair enough Becca. That is one thing I’ve liked about Girardi he let Moose and Andy go 8 innings several times this year how many times did Torre do that?
Does anyone know if there are air-conditioned indoor batting cages at Texas?
Yes, mel, but it’s hot air.
Christian couldn’t hit worse than Cabrera if he tried. Bout time he got a start.
Mel,
Planning on taking some BP?
Al,
In all fairness, moose was a mess with injuries and didn’t have the stuff he’s showing this year.
Torre was probably hedging against the horrible inning that moose inevitably had every start. If you got 5 or 6 innings out of moose without too much damage, then go to the pen. The problem is that last year’s pen was not as dominant as this year’s pen.
“Does anyone know if there are air-conditioned indoor batting cages at Texas?”
Texans like to think they’re tough, so I doubt it lol
Stop pitch count petitions?
Get lives.
It is how the game is now. Deal with it.
Ok Ladies and Gentlemen,
Off to pub trivia followed by DVRed yankees game.
Fearless predictions:
Joba 7 innings, 3 hits, 1 walk, 8 k’s – 1 run
A-Rod and Abreu go yard.
Yankees win 6-1
Eric,
No, just wondering if the team is watching a movie cuz it’s too hot to take BP.
Of course after a long trip, I can understand. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.
Now Torre should have let Moose go 8 last yr? He was TERRIBLE last yr. He could barely get thru 5 let alone go 8.
Mel- Very true Mel Moose wasn’t as good the past couple of seasons. I just think letting a guy like Andy go 8 innings when he hasn’t labored shows that a manager has confidence in his starter.
Rebecca:
Also, JC is the man, and Joe G still hasn’t learned that he has got to move Giambi in the line up.
You are so right. We have to move Jason. Bat Cano behind ARod, Nady 6th and Giambi 7th. Alex and Cano will actually get something to hit, and it puts Robi in an RBI spot.
This time last year, if Moose could get passed the fourth inning it was impressive.
“Yes, mel, but it’s hot air.”
Maybe they need to invest in those water sprinkler things(when waiting in line)like Disneyland has.
New improved R-L-R-L lineup approved by many Peter Abraham bloggers:
Jeter
Damon
A-Rod
Abreu
Nady
Cano
I-Rod
Giambi
Christian
Girardi-You’ve had some 80+ lineup changes-try this one this week. By the way if you check the stats, Nady hits better further up in the lineup, so if you bat him no lower than 5th he could knock in 10 runs tonight!! We have our own Josh Hamilton. Beware Texas!
Al from BK
Are we talking about 105 degrees or the speed of
Phil Hughes fastball clocked on the radar gun this week. LOL!!!!
The difference between Torre and basically any other manager is that he thought relievers were expendable.
How about some early runs for a change? Give Joba an easy one.
“Of course after a long trip, I can understand. Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate.”
I think they are giving them unlimited ice to chew on while watching the movie.
mel,
Where have you been these days. Dont see you here in the mornings. I cant really post then(with having to take the bull by the horns at work),but i skim through it when i can. Is the U.S. going to take the gold back? Didnt beat russia as bad as they should.
The Yankees need to take 6 of 10 on this trip. I want to say 7 of 10, but that’s asking a lot.
Steve Phillips hating on Joba
Giambi is still batting 5th… why?
Jay — I believe I heard that Hughes should be ready to pitch at the major league level in 2 – 3 weeks, barring any new setbacks.
SoS,
Ice chips? They’re in the clubhouse, not the delivery room.
Basketball? The rest of the world playing for silver and bronze. Kobe will sacrifice offense to shut down the other team’s best player. They made the Lithuanian guard look like, well, an amateur. Also, LeBron is more familiar with the FIBA rules and Wade is healthy. There may be a PG controversy, but I think they’ll eventually go to a two-headed monster.
We’ll dominate in Gymnastics, basketball, track & field (Go Brian Clay!), and swimming. As a sports fan, I love the Olympics.
The people clamoring for Giambi to move down are unbelievably short-sighted. You can’t try to ride out every streak and slump. He’s still got a ~.900 OPS for the season.
Hey, I’m watching the weather forecast right now and it doesn’t look good for Texas tomorrow.
What did that idiot say about Joba?
Ugh…no…not Phillips again. What did he say?
Rebecca- I just went on Weather.com. Tomorrow’s forecast for Arlington is 102 and sunny.
PJH –
He’s saying seven decent innings is better from a starter than six dominant ones because of the effect it has on a team.
Thanks Steve, we all know that Joba’s pitch count gets up there pretty quickly. He’s freakin’ 22. Obviously there’s no way that he makes adjustments over the course of the rest of his career.
Chris Britton looks a little bit like King Leonidas
Honestly, Would you rather have 7 innings from Rasner with 3-4 runs on the board or 6+ from Joba with 0-1 runs on the board. Ill take the Joba 0-1.
I usually like the Olympics too. Having been to one, I can say they truly are an awesome sports experience. But I can’t say I’m very excited about this years, for some reason. I don’t think that the US will dominate in swimming.
PJH: Yeah, but that’s not counting the hurricane.
Nate: Steve Phillips is a moron.
Mo expected to be available tonight, ABC news.
“Ice chips? They’re in the clubhouse, not the delivery room.”
Nice to see your sence of humor back mel. Cant wait till the offseason when people dont get ripped for talking about Lunch pales or Parachute pants. Its gotten tough trying to make people laugh in here.
Stop with the Kobe stuff please. But i do think this years team is more fit for the Olympics. Alot of players that can break you down and also play some defense. CP should be the point guard getting most of the minutes.
The bajamas has a 100m guy that seems to have our number. But yes overall we should win the overall medals count. Cant wait!! Phelps wins 9 golds.
Melky has every opportunity to blossom into more than a 4th or 5th OFer and he just hasn’t gotten it done. No power and he doesn’t get on base.
Sadly, the Olympics have become so corporate and commercialized. Watching is tough, at times.
Love to see how this lineup works:
Damon DH
Jeter SS
Cano 2B
A. Rodriguez 3B
Abreu RF
Nady LF
I. Rodriguez C
Giambi 1B
Christian CF
Also, on the soon to blow-up scandal about scouts skimming bonuses for prospects signed: I’m sure that with people from 5 or 6 organizations being looked into (including the Red Sox and Yanks) all we’ll hear from Essentially Sox Proponents’ Network is ‘Yankees this ..’ and ‘Yankees that’.
Wait … did anyone else hear helicopters hovering over head?
Sounds like the guys involved were either skimming from the teams or the prospects. Unless it turns out they were representing the prospects and those were legitimate fees, but it sounds like that’s not the case. Who gets what money when signed should be clearly outlined for all to see. If it turns out they’re being scum bags, they ought to be fired if they haven’t been already.
I forgot who but someone posed a link for petitioning against pitch counts. A futile petition, but it does remind me of the year Nolan struck out 383 guys. He pitched 326 innings when he did it. When Randy Johnson struck out 372, he pitched about 250 innings. But get a load of this:
Will White was a right-hander who pitched from 1877-1886. His first season for the Red Caps he pitched 27 innings. The Reds got him the next year and nursed him up to a mere 468 innings (30W, 21L, 1.79ERA) then to 680 innings (43-31, 1.99) in his third season. They eased up on him after that … to 517 innings. He pitched only 18 inning for the Wolverines in his 5th season. Apparently this was either the Carl Pavano phase of his career or the Manny Ramirez phase, because after he switched teams again (to the Red Stockings) he pitched 480, 577 and 456 innings over the next 3 seasons.
This led to the Scott Proctor phase of his career as he slacked off to 293 innings (his 9th season) before his arm finally fell off in his 26-inning, 10th (and final) season. He was born in 1854 so he started at age 23 and retired at 33. He died in 1911 but they probably buried his right arm way back in 1890.
Pitch counts? Feh … they’re the talk of limp-wristed, mamby pamby cry babies including Kevin Youkilis. Try 3,542+ innings in a career with 3,492 of them being spread out over just 7 seasons. Nolan Ryan was a wimp. The guy went 229-166 with a 2.28ERA too.
Rebecca,
Thanks, good to know. Of course back spasms for Mo doesn’t call for panic like it did in the past. We could cover him for a bit. Like late and tied.
“Phelps wins 9 golds.”
Now those aren’t unreasonable expecations, are they?
mel: Exactly.
Mo’s probably the one guy on the team that I trust to be completley honest
“Sadly, the Olympics have become so corporate and commercialized. Watching is tough, at times.”
Not to mention highly politicized.
Didnt someone lose their job in 2003 for keeping Pedro out there too long? Im sure he’ll sign that petition. There should be another for relief pitchers inning counts. Torre would go for that one.
9 for 9 Angel. If he doesnt win all 9. Then blame his teammates. No pressure at all being him.
Umm, how about blame the fact that there are other swimmers from other nations competing against him and NOTHING is guaranteed in a sport there a few thousanths of a second can be the difference between gold and silver?
Joe Mama,
Yea, that Joba really sucks.
Steve Phillips needs to find a new line of work. Maybe him and Mike Lupica could start a blog and then maybe they’d convince themselves that someone, someplace in cyberspace might take them as seriously as they take themselves. Both are fools.
Can we stop with the Giambi hating?The guy gets on base 40% of the time and hits for power.I’m happy with Nady also but it’s ONE WEEK.
Hasn’t been too much focus on Tampa Bay’s 5 game winning streak. It’s a little scary though. Yankees have all these games on the road. I believe the White Sox/Twins will fade and that the wild card will come out of the AL East. But I’m worried that the Yankees could finish in third place in the division
Damn Angel forget it. Way to rain on the parade. Now he’ll freakin come up with a cold or the runs. Thanks for believing.
Why should I believe? I’m not American, lol.
Sheesh.
Another thing with innings limits & pitch counts:
In 1974, Mike Marshall pitched 208 innings for the Dodgers, going 15-12 with 143K, 56BB and a 2.42 ERA.
What’s the big deal about that seemingly unspectacular season stat line? He was a reliever who saved 21 games in 106 appearances that year. He had a 14-year career and he pitched for 8 more seasons after that one.
Dan giese is replacing rasner
If anything should be banned it’s showing MPH on outfield scoreboards and screens. Younger pitchers have a tendency to try and top out what what’s shown and consequently overthrow.
A member of the scouting staff with a radar gun behind home plate can relay to the dugout when a pitcher’s velocity drops off.
The more useful posting is the pitch count so the pitcher can see how economical he is.
Giese is fine as a long reliever…we’ll see how he does as a starter, I guess.
i hear you on espnews!!!!
good for dan giese lets see if hes the next aaron small
Genius analysis, jim.
“Why should I believe? I’m not American, lol.
Sheesh.”
Unless your Australian. It doesnt matter. I gotcha though. We’ll always have the Yankee as our common ground.
Geise? Why no IPK?
Sounded good on ESPNews Pregame…Go Yanks
Why Giese and not Kennedy or Aceves?
Matt: Tampa also has a ton of road games left, and unlike the Yaees, they don’t have a winning record there.
i think there gonna give IPK one more start at AAA before they bring him up
“The people clamoring for Giambi to move down are unbelievably short-sighted. You can’t try to ride out every streak and slump. He’s still got a ~.900 OPS for the season.”
Good for him and pursuit of a contract to another team next year. How does his .900 OPS help the team now? He hit .234 last month and 3 HR’s in the last 36 games (since June 18th). You want him at #5?
“and u r fat. GO SOX”
Is this the same weak troll from the angels game? The one that wasnt good enough to get his troll stripes? Did mommy take away the x-box?
Giese deserves the start.
ANSKY-
Love the Will White stuff.
Do you (or does anybody) know the name of that well-received chronicle of 19th century baseball? Been meaning to pick that up…
Ranger – I heard somewhere that Girardi and Eiland don’t think Kennedy is MLB ready and that he is getting away with pitches he wouldn’t get away with in the bigs.
This could just be a way of keeping his stock high for the offseason to trade him however.
ANSKY ;
You mentioned Mike Marshall. This article is a must read :
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/ne.....hall051007
What is the point of trolls? People get off on pissing other people off? I don’t get it.
“ZMAN7777 August 4th, 2008 at 5:12 pm
Just out of curiosity, where are folks from? I’ve been out in the Bay Area, CA for 11 years — originally from Westchester.”
Bay area here too…
Giese hmm… so instead of it being rasner for 4 and giese for 3, its not going to be Giese for 4 and then rasner for 3….
I smell a promotion for IPK or the franchise.
I think its a good move giving Giese the start on Friday rather than Kennedy.
The angels are the best team in baseball right now – by wide margin.
Throwing Kennedy into that kind of game is just asking a lot and stacking the chips against him succeeding.
I also think he needs more games in AAA. He’s throwing well down there – but not as well as he was last year when they called him up.
It would help him to build up as much momentum as possible before getting back to the majors.
Also – and this is peripheral but relevant – Kennedy grew up in orange county, not that far from Anaheim.
Pitching there for him would be a homecoming of sorts. On top of being his first game back he’d have to deal with pitching in front of friends and family – which entails arranging tickets, etc. and then performing in front of them.
That just makes it all the more likely for him to have issues from off the field affecting his performance.
Returning to the bigs after pitching so poorly is a challenge enough as it is.
Or it could be that they didn’t like the way he handled being sent down in the first place.
Kennedy isn’t ready for the majors.
“What is the point of trolls? People get off on pissing other people off? I don’t get it.”
The better question is why would someone want to be in another teams blog? Why would they spend all their time in finding other teams sites? Loser is the only answer i can come up with.
Giese has been very good in relief I am not sure moving him out of that role makes sense!!!!
I live in SOuthern Cal.. Kennedy has pitched in big games before he needs to do his job if called on, stop babying these guys.
why mess with the pen it is our strangth also how many innings can Geise give them? Best case 5!!!!
Thanks for the insightful post jim. Keep up the good work.
On another note, many of us were clamoring for a change in the rotation and I for one am not opposed to seeing Giese get another shot at starting. What’s the worst that could happen?
In the meantime, let this be a message to the young guys that you need to be consistent AND have a great attitude about pitching in NY.
And don’t get me wrong, I believe Kennedy will make a difference on this team even this season. But, if the organization thinks it best to keep him down in AAA, who are we to challenge their authority. They may know something we don’t.
I’d still probably go with Kennedy. I don’t think Giese can do it two times in a row against the Angels. Also, his second start against the Mets was kind of Ponson or Rasner-like.
Michelle, cool
— where in the Bay? San Jose here.
“Pitching there for him would be a homecoming of sorts. On top of being his first game back he’d have to deal with pitching in front of friends and family – which entails arranging tickets, etc. and then performing in front of them.”
Good point CB. Do you think this is a one and done for Giese?
Let’s go yanks!
I must admit that I feel more comfortable with Giese over Kennedy. But why not Kennedy over Rasner in long relief?
I would have liked for IPK to have gone up, Rassner DFA, but let’s be frank – right now it all depends on how Ponson does.
If Ponson gets shellacked tomorrow, then Giese may have to come in tomorrow anyway, which means IPK is back on Friday…..
Start Pavano!
wheeeeew! lolz! just saw the news pete posted and boy am i welieved. gooo dan gise or howeva us spell it!! lolz! my era is weally good wight now and i dont wanna wuin it by facing majow leaguews.
also i agwee with cb!! hes vewy smawt and i wanna subscwibe to his newlettew!! lolllz!!1
It’s a day off for Melky. They guy has played, like, just about every game. I wouldn’t read too much into that. I am glad Christian is getting a start; I’m glad Melky’s getting a rest.
That spot is for Hughes. Giese will get one or two starts, then Hughes will come up if he does well in Scranton. Rasner’s days are numbered with the Yankees at this point.
Bx is burning:
That and literally METRIC TONS more useless trivia info can be unearthed at:
http://www.baseball-almanac.com
You can also find & cross reference TONS of stats and historic factoids there, which prove the reasons why Red Sox trolls have always been (and will always be) little more than useless, unoriginal losers.
When they said that they would look to replace Wang with “internal” options I didn’t think that meant just Ponson and Rasner.
Could it be that they might want to have him dominate in AAA so he has some value in the offseason? Possibly a package for a first baseman? If he gets called up and proceeds to get hammered than we lose on the field and off.
lol^^^
“Or it could be that they didn’t like the way he handled being sent down in the first place.”
Ryan – what did IPK do when they sent him down? All I remember is a statement about how confident he felt prior to a game in which he actually did well, a statement which, when recounting, he prefaced with the knowledge that it was going to sound obnoxious.
What else did he do? I missed it somehow.
“Do you think this is a one and done for Giese?”
I think it all depends on how he is pitching in AAA. I don’t think they are going to call him up until they are certain he’s at a point where he can help the team by succeeding at the big league level.
And by succeeding all I mean is that he pitches decently enough as a 4/5th starter.
That’s means forget his statistics in AAA. It all depends on what the quality of his pitches looks like and how well he is commanding his stuff.
Kennedy can get AAA hitters out. Its a much more important question on whether he’s throwing pitches that will make him competitive at the major league level.
He’s throwing strikes and missing bats down there so those are positives.
But if they don’t think he’s ready – he’s not ready. It really gets down to the quality of the pitches he’s making down there. Statistics only partially reflect that quality in the minor leagues.
I get the sense they still think he has some issues to work on.
How Giese does may force their hand. But the more starts he gets in AAA the better.
Bx is burning:
Sorry but I don’t know the name of that specific 19th century baseball reference you’re talking about.
I don’t think Kennedy’s value can fall too much further. I would guess that it can only go up from where he stands. If he pitches to a 5.00 ERA, it would be an improvement.
That is true, IPK’s value would be higher if he doesn’t get smacked around up here but if I am a GM, I wouldn’t give up much since he still hasn’t proven to be anything more than a AAAA pitcher
Eep, please be okay Mo!
zman7777: oakland…i used to work in sunnyvale for the sabercats.
I dont think rasner needs to be DFA’d, he still has options left.
Oh no. Hope Mo is alright
Interesting Michelle. How many people do the SaberCats employ — apart from coaches and players?
Cheers, ANSKY.
I love baseball-almanac.
If I come up with the title of that recent history of the the early days, I’ll let ya know.
Folks, it’s not just about IPK.
It’s about Ponson, too.
If Ponson gets shellacked on Wednesday, IPK is back because Ponson is gone (either Giese or Rassner had to back him up, and if nothing else, the Yanks need a new long man in place for the weekend series in Anaheim).
If Ponson pitches well on Wednesday, then IPK will stay back in AAA, pending what happens on Friday.
this smells of the Yanks not wanting to DFA Rasner….
too bad…
Heres to Cliff Lee continue pitching like he has all year. This looks like a good day to gain ground.
IPK pissed Yankee management off when he was up this year. He deserves to be stuck in AAA. He acted like an arrogant idiot when he was up earlier. I’d much rather have Giese who’s pitched well for us. Give him a shot.
I don’t want Rasner as a long man, though. Scary thought.
“Could it be that they might want to have him dominate in AAA so he has some value in the offseason? Possibly a package for a first baseman?”
No. With the Nady/ Marte and Pudge deals the Yankees made a very loud statement that they are trying to win now.
That means they are going to do everything reasonable to win games. If they thought Kennedy gave them the best shot then he would be up here.
Another complication here is what to do with Rasner. He is out of options and he would never clear waivers.
I think if Kennedy gets called up to replace Rasner/Giese in the rotation then it will be Giese who gets sent down. I believe he still has options. Rasner will be the long man and Giese will get called back up when the roster’s expand.
The reason why you don’t want to just DFA Rasner is that he has trade value. He’s not great – but he’s cheap and would be fine as a long man out of the pen. He could be a decent guy to include in a trade as the 4th or 5th piece.
Or they could move him for a prospect in the lower minor leagues.
Rasner doesn’t have much value – but given how hard relievers are to find and how expensive – he has some.
I think this is just a spot start for Giese and the Yanks probably intend on promoting Kennedy to pitch next week instead.
Given his issues, I don’t think it would have been a sound strategy to throw Kennedy into the fire against the Angels in his first game back.
Kei Igawa is waiting in the wings!! lol
Just as soon as they add him back onto the 40 man roster
CB has a point.
You can’t DFA Rasner because he would never clear waivers. So many teas right now need pitching, or something remotely similar to it.
I mean, would you rather have Darrell Rasner starting, or Livan Hernandez?
Wait. I’m not sure I want the answer to that…
If the final game of the season at Boston is meaningless (one way or the other), the Yankees should pitch Igawa and Pavano as a going away present.
That’d be great Bx … thanks.
Game time is coming up so I’m going to do something besides dodge all the whiners’ & trolls’ comments. Sometimes I’ll just watch the game w/o reading what they have to say … what a concept.
Memo to all those tired of the whiners & trolls: Especially in losses, its much a easier way to enjoy the game for what it is.
Memo to the whiners & trolls: Relax … lighten up … get a life … or at least try using your other hand so it feels like someone else is doing it.
I’m fine with giving Giese the start as long as Giese is available to work long relief if needed. Are they related?
Motown Yankees,
Re: IPK. Just whispers and hearsay. But when Girardi says that Kennedy needs to earn his way back, that spoke volumes. He usually sugarcoats (lol) everything, but not that time. He was sending a message.
Wang Is Taiwan, I echo the previous poster in asking how specifically did Kennedy behaved badly? He didn’t pitch well, but I didn’t notice anything arrogant or idiotic in his behavior.
Wang is Taiwan,
Well a long man would entail that the Yankees are behind anyway. So flipping Giese and Rasner makes sense. You won’t see Rasner on a postseason (crossing fingers) roster. Won’t see Ponson either, though who replaces them is anyone’s guess.
What’s the status on Freddie Kreuger?
Please don’t say Washburn, the Mariners lost their chance already.
Did anybody see MLBtraderumors has each AL teams’ players listed as possibilities to pass through waivers this season?
Yankees: Jason Giambi, Derek Jeter, Bobby Abreu, Johnny Damon, Ivan Rodriguez, Carl Pavano. Many of the Yanks’ high-priced stars could clear waivers, but trading them wouldn’t make sense. Pavano could be moved in the right situation.
Jeter!? Why would we consider passing him through waivers?
“He didn’t pitch well, but I didn’t notice anything arrogant or idiotic in his behavior.”
I may be wrong (it’s been known to happen with stunning regularity) but it may stem from the comment he made before his first start after being sent down. It was something to the effect of “I’m going to make those guys look stupid”. Now, many took that to mean that he was going to make the Yanks look stupid for sending him down. I, however, took the meaning that he was going to make the team he was facing look stupid.
Speaking of whiners. Did you guys here the comment that David Wells made in the old timers game? Where he said the ghost of Yankee stadium would not follow the team to the new stadium. Man this guy is still but hurt that we didnt bring him back.
Staten Island Yankees are on SNY
No one has snatched up Livan yet? Oh the pain
zman7777: sabercats are a huge operation. I worked as the assistant athletic trainer – we had a big sports medicine team. But our facilities sucked…John Fry owns the team and i can tell you the best part about that is getting to fly in his private plane for away trips. He would play poker with us inthe back of the plane.
I agree considering all the extraneous factors it’s nest to hold Kennedy for one more trip through… Giese has found his niche and I hate messing with that. Another good point was made that Ponson could need Giese tomorrow.. then you get Kennedy on very short notice and he is told NOT to mess with any ticket requests, period.
Labeling him a 4-A pitcher is just plain dumb. Guys in the 27-29 range who dominate Triple-A and stink in the majors are 4-A players, not 22-year-olds who are aomong the youngest players in the Majors.
Hughes should need three more starts to go from 65 to 80 to 95 pitches.
A big Amen for Christian getting the start (pun intended). He should start tomorrow vs LHP too.
“IPK pissed Yankee management off when he was up this year. He deserves to be stuck in AAA. He acted like an arrogant idiot when he was up earlier.”
I don’t know how the organization felt about him but I felt he acted like an arrogant idiot. I was overjoyed when Girardi said he would have to earn his way back. I don’t trust the guy. It isn’t my choice but if it were he would spend the rest of the season way away from the Bronx. (And it takes a lot for me to get down on any Yankee player, as you all well know.)
Meanwhile, GO GIL MECHE!
Chad Jennings had some very positive notes on how Hughes threw his last start from Nardi Contreras:
” Pitching coordinator Nardi Contreras is here with Hughes and watched both of his rehabs in Charleston. Contreras said Hughes looked about as good in his last start as he ever has with the Yankees. His fastball command and velocity were both very good — 93 to 95 mph, not 101 like the stadium gun showed — and Contreras said the curveball was as sharp as it’s been since 2006 when Hughes was so good for Trenton.
“His last outing was great,” Contreras said. “He threw the baseball that day like I saw him when he went up and tore up that Eastern League. He really threw the ball well. That was encouraging. The way he was throwing before he hurt his hamstring (with New York), remember? That’s how he was throwing the baseball.”
This is very good news. It sounds like that stress fracture was the reason why he was pitching so poorly. He certainly wasn’t throwing as well as he was in last year or in the minors.
http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.....fault.aspx
Phil,
Even if he was talking about the other team, it’s not the Yankee way to talk trash and disrespect opponents.
Rasner’s gamelog – he’s given the Yanks a decent-to-good chance to win in most of his starts:
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2008
that’s a decent 5th starter performance.
Why is Joe messing with a good thing here. Giese has pitched well in the role he is in. Starting him overexposes him.
Ryan
Sounds like the Yankees were the ones to sound the alarm on something that was happening. The club will be fine, it is the people employed by the club that will be in deep you know what.
CB: If Nardi says it’s good, then it must be good.
I think in the context it was absolutely clear that he was making the opposing players look stupid. And he did. I guess I see how it could be construed as the Yankees as well. Who can say?
I don’t think the organization is really making decisions based on that anyway. I think they’re using the far more logical metric of how well he’s pitching and past experience with promoting guys too soon.
But call me a cock-eyed optimist.
Nice, Michelle. You could be a future Gene Monahan!
The thing that always struck me as arrogant about Kennedy was his attitude in the dugout and with the press. He never appeared terribly distraught about the fact that he sucked and was causing the Yankees to lose game after game, and he made that comment when he was sent back down about making the other team look stupid, or whatever he said (because I’m Ian and the Yankees made a big mistake sending me down.) I always got the feeling that he was strutting around getting his high off wearing the pinstripes and almost felt he didn’t have to do anything other than show up in order to earn his keep.
Now that is the way he struck me. Maybe he didn’t strike others that way. So maybe I have read him wrong. But I have so much more respect for and faith in Phil Hughes, who seemed to take responsibility for needing to pitch better, as opposed to Howdy Doody, who always seemed to think he had done a pretty good job, as I remember.
That Melky Cabrera is obviously the engine that gets the Yankee train running.
A lot of you are going to be really disappointed when you realize that Melky is sitting out because everyone will be getting a day off in the upcoming days being that the Yankees don’t have an off day for another 10 days. Let’s just ignore that fact however.
In 1986 when the Mets won it all Rafael Santana had 400 AB’s at SS. He was a terrible, terrible hitter. If blogs existed in 1986 people wouldn’t have been happy with the Mets winning ways, they would have been concerned that Rafael Santana was the number 8 hitter.
Now, Im’ not defending Melky, but I think it’s utterly stupid for so many of you here to be harping on the Yankees number 9 hitter. But I do understand that every player on the team is supposed to hit .350 and drive in 120 runs.
Very encouraged about Hughes. Can’t wait to see him back up here later.
JR Yankees,
I understand that players are passed through waivers just-in-case.
Since Jeter is a 10-5 guy, he could only be traded if (a) He’s claimed by another team, the Yanks don’t pull him back AND he agrees to a trade; or,
(b) He’s not claimed by any teams, the Yanks find a trade for him AND he agrees to a trade.
Not gonna happen, but you might as well have the option just in case…..
“But I do understand that every player on the team is supposed to hit .350 and drive in 120 runs.”
I’m not looking for Melky to hit .350, but he most certainly should be doing better than he is right now. He was batting around .300 at one point and then just hit a wall.
Giese.Good thing we got Phil “Pavano” Hughes and Zambrano in the minor leagues or I would be scared about our starting staff.
Melky does need a few days off, simply because his AB’s have been terrible. I will rarely question his defense though. Maybe a couple of days will motivate him with his hitting.
There is a striking difference between Hughes and IPK, besides the obvious one that Hughes has far more talent. It is that IPK was so scared when he was up, that he lost his poise. Being that he has a big ego, he may well be a good pitcher in the big leagues, if he recovers his nerve.
MoBoy, that’s just silly talk. Embrace the love for Hughes that lives in your heart and then you’ll be on board when he comes back and does well and you won’t have to jump on the bandwagon late (like you had to with Joba the starter).
S.o.S.27.,
Don’t be too hard on David Wells. It’s hard to imagine any team winning 39 pennants and 26 World Championships in 85 years like the Yankees did in the Stadium.
I attend a lot of games and am well familiar with the deterioratating condition of Yankee Stadium and its lack of amenities. But the new Stadium is the House That Greed Built. Hopefully the good kharma of Yankee Stadium moves across the street, but it remains to be seen.
And by the way, there’s a 20Mil shortstop who gets paid to produce. He has an OPS+ of 98. There’s also the 18mil 1B who’s paid to produce. He’s been terrible ALL YEAR with RISP. There’s also a 25mil 3B who’s paid to produce. He also has been TERRIBLE all year with RISP.
The Yankees have scored what? 150 runs less this year than last? And you guys are worried about a 400K a year player? The thought makes me LMAO, seriously. Worry about the guys who get paid the BIG BUCKS to produce. Not a guy who’s a complimentary player.
Wow, Giese getting the start over IPK? I wonder if Kennedy woke up this morning and told his wife Girardi was gonna make him look stupid today. haha.
(did somebody make that joke already? if so, sorry).
Anyway, I sure hope this doesn’t upset the apple cart with Giese. He’s been so effective as a long reliever; why mess with a good thing? Also, I’m not sure if long relief seems an ideal role for Rasner. Without looking at numbers, doesn’t he often struggle more in early innings/his 1st time through a lineup and then settle down later?
I really thought they’d give Kennedy another shot. Anyone have any guesses on the reasons for him being passed over?
I like the fact I had to google ‘Fredo’ to figure out what Pete was talking about…
I guess the Yankees are really going to make Ian work for his right to be on the staff. I like it, seems like it will help him learn the lesson of throwing strikes and trusting his stuff…
Giese should be starting on Friday. He destroyed AAA. Usually a guys who dominates so thoroughly in AAA can make it as a number 5 starter on a team. At least IMO.
Mel, Trisha et al,
I hadn’t gotten the impression that he was arrogant, but I honestly can’t say that I kept up with any of his comments from his poor starts. As for the “make them look stupid” comment, I totally agree that it’s rather unbecoming, but he’s young and I took it as a “I’m going to dominate today” attitude rather than a “the Yankees made a mistake in sending me down” thing. I want my pitchers to have the attitude that they’re going to dominate. Should they say it? Maybe. Should they say it how he said it? Probably not…
If he has the stuff to back it up, then he should have all the confidence in the world in his pitches. BUT he does need to back it up.
As long as he’s not a blowhard (I’m looking at you, Schilling!) I’m good with a little bit of attitude.
Phil Hughes is going to make everyone proud…..Just a week ago or so, many were still down on his future with the organization…Suddenly he has shown that he’s healthy and gets Nardi’s Blessing and suddenly everyone loves him again…..By 2010, he and Joba will be the best 1-2 in all of MLB….The boy has talent….Overwhelming talent….
Pete Abe Sighting!!!!
I saw Pete on the YES pregame show with Mo and a slew of other folks in front of the dugout and guess who was doing all the talking!
BBB: There’s no saying how many starts Giese is going to get.
I’d say he’s being Ramiro Mendoza’d
Geise instead of Kennedy? :-/
well if Nardi likes what he sees, then you’ve gotta believe hughes is close. I like the sound of that.
zman: i worked in the minors for 3 yrs, riding buses and handing out meal money….i am no longer intersted in being a trainer in pro sports. I had my fill. Now, i work at a private hs and i am the assistant a.d. and the head trainer and i get to come home at 6 or 7 everyday and have weekends off..
Drive 4-5
One huge reason for the new stadium, if not the biggest, is that it shelters Yankee income from revenue sharing.
“Being that he has a big ego, he may well be a good pitcher in the big leagues, if he recovers his nerve.”
It’s amazing how all of a sudden Kennedy has a big ego. This is just nonsense.
The yankees not being happy with how he reacted to his performance earlier this year is not the same as him being “arrogant.”
Kennedy felt like he could get big leaguers out and wanted more time up in the bigs. That’s a good thing in many ways.
Would it have been better for him to feel that he was hopelessly overmatched and couldn’t do better?
Now all of a sudden he’s Gary Sheffield?
Ray, Da Melk is still my guy, for whatever it’s worth. Maybe resting him for a game will help him on several levels. I don’t know anything about Christian in the field, but I am so thankful that we have had Melky’s defense.
Since the Rangers are an offensive juggernaut, I can see why Giardi would want someone like Christian in the lineup (Yankees will need runs.)
Anyway, GO YANKS!
There is only one Gary Sheffield.
Why does everyone think hitting from a 9 hitter wins champhionships.. It is about the 9 hitter who is always a role player on any team to play good defense and play extremely hard. hey thats what Melky does and provides top center field defense. And thats all that matters is defense from a 9 hitter..
ANd bY the way Melky is still extremely young… PLease back off him!!!1
JRVJ:
Why would any team just pass somebody through waivers if they have no intention of trading them? Is there any advantage to this?
Also, once a player is passed through them and nothing comes of it, do they need to pass through them again if they decided to do something later on?
“I’m not looking for Melky to hit .350, but he most certainly should be doing better than he is right now. He was batting around .300 at one point and then just hit a wall.”
I think we should be more interested in our #5/#7 hitters for hitting .250/.260 than our #9 hitter. Those guys love the wall your talking about. Melky was never expected to hit .300. .270 would suffice. If our only problem is our #9 hitter than we should be in pretty good shape. But it isnt. We assume that Giambi and Cano will get hot again. Thats why most jump all over Melky instead.
I am mildly amused by all the comments about IPK – a person whom most of you have not ever met, nor spoken to.
“The boy has talent….Overwhelming talent….”
He’s going to be terrific. And he’s going to help this team this year.
He was clearly hurt at the start of this season.
“Why does everyone think hitting from a 9 hitter wins champhionships.. It is about the 9 hitter who is always a role player on any team to play good defense and play extremely hard. hey thats what Melky does and provides top center field defense. And thats all that matters is defense from a 9 hitter..”
MFC, I agree 100% but I think the issue is that Melk has shown that he’s much better than a #9 hitter. He’s shown flashes that he has the potential to be a top-of-order hitter and he’s just looking lost out there right now. I don’t think he should be traded or sent down. I love Melk and want him to stick around and turn it around. It’s just incredibly disappointing that he’s not matched his potential.
Doreen
IPK performance shows his lapse of confidence, his words speak for themselves.
I hope he has a huge sense of self worth or ego, a pitcher needs that.
Rebecca, yeah that makes sense. I still fear it could get ugly on Friday though, just because it is one of those stupid wraparound series. The Angels are a good hitting team and we’ve even seen pitchers like Wang and Moose get hit hard when they faced the same team twice in one week. If even they get hit then what is gonna happen to Giese?! Hopefully he will channel his inner Mendoza in a big way.
Vrsce,
I understand the reasons for the new Stadium. The Red Sox have mastered the art of putting money into their ballpark for the very reason you mention. Also, Yankee Stadium has serious handicap accessibity issues and poor rest rooms and concessions.
The main reasons for the new Stadium are 1)sheltering money and 2)increased luxury box revenue. Both of those reasons preclude all others. It’s all about the money, and hence greed.
Can any of you guys imagine the tantrum IPK threw when he heard Giese was startingon Fri.
JR Yankees,
Ok, I think you’re a little confused, because August waivers are a different thing from other waivers.
I’ll repost later with links, but in case they get caught in the fiter, google “Waiver Trade Explanations”"Tim Dierkes”"August 1, 2008″
That should take you to a good explanation on the MLBTR site.
Phil, I got my impression of his attitude when I would watc the postgames after he pitched. There you’d see Pettitte beat the crap out of himself, Moose never give himself enough credit, Hughes talk about what else he really needed to work on, and Kennedy standing there like a self-assured goon saying he thought he had pitched pretty well. As I remember he would never talk about what he needed to work on – I take that back, one time he did say he had more work to do. I would remember looking at pitchers in the dugout after they had gotten pulled from games where they had basically given up the game, and every other pitcher would look depressed to me. Kennedy, as I remember, would be filmed with a smile on his face talking to whomever he’d be sitting next to. It always struck me as wrong and it always gave me the impression he just didn’t get it.
Anyway, that’s how it hit me. I don’t remember ever being so relieved as when Girardi announced he was being taken out of the rotation. And as Mel pointed out, for Girardi to say he was going to have to earn his way back was definitely saying a lot.
Here’s some good explanations:
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....de-ex.html
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....de-ru.html
http://itmightbedangerous.blog.....assed.html
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs.....ire-primer
Rebecca- In fairness to Giese he looked good against the halos yesterday Girardi is a big results guy if Giese flounders IPK will start if he pitches well he stays.
inside edge from yahoo sports…
Xavier Nady has fit right in for the Yankees, going 10-for-25 (.400 BAVG) with three home runs and 10 RBIs in the eight games since he was acquired from the Pittsburgh Pirates. To cool him off, Vincente Padilla might want to try busting him up and in — where he is hitting just .176 this season — or down and in, where he is batting .115. If Padilla makes a mistake and misses his spot middle-in, Nady is likely to make him pay. He’s hitting .548 with a .905 slugging percentage in the middle-inside portion of the zone.
Oh, geez. Not every pitcher is going to be Billy Wagner and beat the crap out of themselves in post-game interviews. Ball players all have different attitudes.
Vrsce -
I really don’t even know what that means.
IPK’s mistake was being too candid with the media. The rule is never discuss with the media a private conversation between yourself and your spouse.
So all kinds of judgments are reached from one ill-chosen statement.
No, he did not do as well as we all expected and hoped.
Are second chances not allowed?
Didnt Kennedy have a confidense problem while he was starting? Made some type of comment about it to the media? Maybe thats why he said he had to earn his way back. I cant imagine it being because of him being cocky.
Drive 4-5
I lay off him a bit. But its not the first time he hated on the Yankees.
Thanks JRVJ:
Waivers are one of the things about baseball that aren’t discussed a lot but play a bigger role in baseball transactions than people realize.
In other words, I don’t know too much about them. I will definately look at the article you recommend.
IPK and Hughes are better than Razz and Pontoon AND if they get some MLB experience, they may be either a factor in next year’s rotation OR some good trade bait, right ? I mean, yes it would be nice to have a #4 starter that is not a question mark each time you throw him out there, but this change AND poss having WANG back for the playoff run is not so bad, right ?
Indians up 1-0 on the Rays, but by the time you read this that may have changed.
He will get a second chance.Silly to suggest otherwise.
Doreen,
Couldn’t agree with you more about IPK.
I can say that after the little time I saw him interact in Tampa last spring,”arrogant” would hardly be the adjective I’d use to describe him. I warched him genuinely interact with his friends that were visiting and he was terrific with the fans.
I like the fact that he has confidence in his ability. I’ve hammered him here for his pitching, but I truly hope he’s successful one day. He seems to me like a great kid and I’m rooting for him to succeeed.
Phil,
I didn’t think IPK was arrogant last season, but this year, his ‘tude was way off. I agree with an earlier post that his post-game press conferences were off in tone. He’s immature and Girardi recognized it.
It’s ok to have confidence if you can back it up, but it’s best to be quiet until you’ve proven yourself. He also seemed a tad “put out” by being sent back to AAA (as if he didn’t deserve it) and then by having to remain there. I think this experience is good for him. He needs to understand that you earn playing time in the majors. It’s not just handed to you (like it was after spring training). The fact that he would “give up” in his games and not fight like heck made Girardi angry. That was easy to see. Look at how Girardi responded to Rasner in contrast. Night and day. You can easily see that Girardi respects Rasner — his fight and his attitude. Unfortunately, he didn’t quite have the goods. Wow, that quote about “earning his way back” spoke volumes about Girardi’s feelings toward IPK.
Gotta work. Have a great game everyone!
I think Kennedy’s comments about not liking how everyone was ‘living and dying on every pitch’ on the big club rubbed people the wrong way too. Part of the problem with that is that the opponents were living and the Yankees were dying on most of those pitches.
Plus U$C = arrogance. But now there’s a Cal guy on the team whose humility might offset some of that. Overall, obviously you want the guy on the mound who gives the Yanks the best chance to win and there’s no compelling reason to think that person is Kennedy — yet.
CB,
Does Hughes have another plus pitch besides his curve and fastball. I know he was hurt and will be a better pitcher but im wondering if he has a third pitch that is mlb ready?
My other post got eaten.
I remember IPK making a statement about confidense problems to the media while he was struggling. Maybe thats the reason why they are keeping him there.
Granted I don’t know the Ian Kennedy that is now, but as a HS kid and even at USC he was always a rather unassuming shy kid…..My first encounter with him was when his Little League All-Star team knocked my team out of the playoffs….He threw a 3 hitter, this was in 1997….Maybe getting married pumped him up a little…..Arrogant, I question that…..Lots of pressure on both he & Hughes coming into camp this season….Too much too soon for him, not Phil I believe….
“He will get a second chance.Silly to suggest otherwise.”
I would say you are right without a doubt.
If he were to spend the rest of the season in Scranton I don’t think it would be a bad thing for him. Everyone agreed that both he and Hughes had been rushed up ahead of schedule – of necessity at the time.
Everyone deserves a second chance-even Ian. Hopefully he learned from his mistakes.
Hell…maybe even Pavano deserves another chance?
**runs away from blog in fear**
Billy Wagner beats the crap out of himself in postgame interviews? I thought he just tells the reporters to go ask the Spanish speaking players!
Anyway, although I didn’t love his attitude this year either and vastly prefer the way Joba and Phil seem to approach things, I wouldn’t really put that much stock in Kennedy’s postgame comments. Remember, before this year, probably half the people on here hated Moose’s postgames and thought he always made excuses and blamed everyone but himself. He’s still managed to have himself a pretty good career…
Not all players need to be Wagner and trash themselves after the game but IPK was downright assured. He talked like a battle proven vet after getting abused on the mound he needs to get a dose of humility and hopefully not getting called up for Fri gives him that boost to toss another gem.
“Does Hughes have another plus pitch besides his curve and fastball.”
His change up is a decent pitch but he doesn’t have a lot of confidence in it yet.
A good sign from his start in Charleston – he threw the change up several times and it was very effective.
We’ll see. He moved through the the minors so fast right out of high school developing a third pitch was going to be difficult.
big spot for cliff lee here…bases loaded two out and he got Upton to pop out…
1 – 0 indians top 3
Well, whatever. IPK may or may not have attitude issues.
The point is, he’s not here. Even though Ponson has had a couple of stinkers and Rasner has been ineffective for 2 months. And they’re going to the long man before IPK.
IPK is in their plans, just not their immediate plans.
If Ponson/Giese can hold it together for 2 more weeks until Hughes is ready, you won’t see Ian. If one of them really loses it, then you’ll see IPK before Phil.
Lee gets out of trouble.
“Plus U$C = arrogance.”
Indeed, Bret Easton Ellis didn’t call it the University of Spoiled Children for no reason!
I almost applied to USC. Actually, I know someone there, she’s an animation major I think, and she’s definitely not spoiled.
Then again, as far as I know she’s not an athlete.
nick in sf: i forgot Nady was a Cal guy…I’m sure him and Mussina have great conversations.
I think if Hughes can get the change-up to slightly above average he will be dangerous.
2 – 0 indians…asdrubal cabrera home run
KC has a way of whacking around certain opposition. I would love to see them stick it to their latest opposition!
Here’s another good thought – Sux have a losing record on the road. I think they have a goodly number of road games left. Not that it has to work out that way, but they really haven’t shown the ability to do a lot of winning on the road.
“Arrogant, I question that…..Lots of pressure on both he & Hughes coming into camp this season….Too much too soon for him, not Phil I believe….”
After his sophomore year in college there were people saying that Kennedy had the chance to be the the greatest pitcher in USC history and arguably one of the greatest college pitchers of all time.
Tom Seaver, Mark Prior, Randy Johnson and a host of others went to USC.
I never hear a peep about Kennedy being arrogant in college or about him being arrogant at the time he was drafted. And draft time is always a period of time when everything gets picked over with a microscope.
Kennedy’s biggest issue with post game comments, etc. was probably not being savvy enough with the media.
What a crime for a 23 year old rookie.
Wow, they’re already sweating.
Glad I’m here in the air conditioning.
Wow…the Yanks must not be sold on IPK, or they are teaching him a lesson.
I wish Giambi were an animation major. I’ve seen Disney animatronic figures with better movement.
2-0 Indians. Please don’t just tease us, Cleveland.
Re: Kennedy, isn’t his next chance going to be his 3rd? Wasn’t he already up and down and back up this season? Or are we dismissing that return engagement because he ended up hurt?
Tough play that could have set it off.
oh wait, So Hughes wasn’t throwing at 102 mph?
the RANGERS make diving plays at 3rd now to steal hits? Jeez..
Padilla does have a 12-5 record. He’s doing something right, even if it’s just getting boatloads of run support.
THEY DON’T TRUST IAN KENNEDY! HE’S A AAAA PITCHER! IT’S MELKY’S FAULT!
i think Giese is the right move. he’s pitched well this year, and the leash on him was too short the first time around. IPK will have his time. he just wasn’t throwing the ball over the plate earlier in the season, and we need him at a place where he feels comfortable enough with his stuff that he can make good use of it at the MLB level. this isn’t the ideal time to test out whether he’s there.
Ian Kennedy: stuck between a rock and a hard place with the LoHud readers.
CB -
Not knowing any of his college history, that’s exactly the take I had on it – that he was likely naive.
By the way, I’ve enjoyed reading your perspectives of late.
IPK never struck me as arrogant, he didn’t even come off as over-confidant. And if you ask me, a kid that did that well in collegea nd was in the majors in less than a year, could be extremely confident. He just made a few dumb comments that get over blown when you are struggling and playing for the Yankees. Now as far as giving him a second chance in the big leagues, I’m not ready for that yet.
“2-0 Indians. Please don’t just tease us, Cleveland.
Re: Kennedy, isn’t his next chance going to be his 3rd? Wasn’t he already up and down and back up this season? Or are we dismissing that return engagement because he ended up hurt?”
Good point. IPK has had his share of chances but I think he deserves another one if Giese gets shelled, Pavano now he is out of chances.
3rd chances are allowed too..I think
Who has a bigger upside? Bucholtz or Hughes?
OH MY GOD NO!
I’m (mostly) kidding on the U$C stuff. Perhaps I should have said:
U$C = perception of arrogance.
michelle, I hope the Moose comes back next year so Nady can rib him about Cal’s impending Big Game victory this season.
Doreen,
Thanks. The calm, patient nature of your comments are very welcome as well.
Nice recovery Bobby.
S.o.S: Phil’s younger by three or four years.
Texas fans showing A-Rod some love
not!
so far the Rangers announcers aren’t half bad.
Padilla is known for either being really good or really bad. There’s rarely an inbetween. Hopefully the Yanks don’t make him look like a Cy Young winner tonight.
who’s got the ax now???
Nongeye- The Yankees make a lot of guys look like Cy Young winners.
Right, let’s see what ‘stacheless can do with RISP today.
Stachless to make out next. X man, wish you were here.
Now we’ll see if he’s changed the course of things with the stache gone…
‘stache is gone-let’s see what happens
“I don’t know how the organization felt about him but I felt he acted like an arrogant idiot. I was overjoyed when Girardi said he would have to earn his way back. I don’t trust the guy. It isn’t my choice but if it were he would spend the rest of the season way away from the Bronx. (And it takes a lot for me to get down on any Yankee player, as you all well know.)”
But when you get down on them, you sure get down on them, lol.
Jason looks soooooo much better without the ‘stache!
did you hear ken? he said giambi shaved the stache mid game and we came back and won…lol
Your joking he shaved it after the Tex HR only Giambi
Al from BK – I know all too well…
Man, Giambi doesn’t even look like the same guy right now.
ha
Yeah and since it take almost an act of Congress for me to have a scintilla of a bad feeling about any Yankee player, I definitely trust my gut when it does happen.
Donaghy knows the umpire.. who was betting on them yankees???
JR
To the best of my knowledge the waiver wire in August works like this:
You can put up to 7 players/day on waivers. Other teams have 47 hours to claim a player.
The club, let’s say the Yankees, can pull back Jeter, and then he could not be traded for 30 days. 2.The team can work out a trade with the claiming team, but all persons on 40 man roster have to pass cleanly thru waivers 3.If no team claims him, you’re free to trade that player to any team interested. 4.Or you can just dump the salary/contract on the claiming team . This is what happened to the Yankees claiming Jose Canseco to block another team from getting him, and then the A’s just dumped his salary on us.
Any clearer for you?
Oh by the way, the teams put all their good players up to 7 a day, on waivers to disguise the players they really want to trade, by not getting them claimed. 7 players a day by 30 teams is 210 names you need to filter thru daily.
wow, Giambi got a gift
youkilis and pedroia always seem to be getting hits when i follow the box score… boston up 2-0 top 1
michelle, if you’re suggesting that the Bears got too complacent after holding the Axe for 5 years and let an inferior Stanfurd team beat them last year, I fully agree.
I’m sure the Axe is enjoying its one-year vacation down on the Farm, perhaps spending its mornings in the horse stables and its afternoons getting spa treatments. But it will surely be relieved to go back to Berkeley in November.
Sorry to to the 99% of you who don’t know/care what I’m talking about.
Wow, I can’t believe Giambi wasn’t rung up there.
I’m getting the Texas feed, the announcers are all over the ump….
Hey! It worked!
Thank God the ‘stache is gone!
Stache-less is good.
umpire gave Giambi a break. And Rangers say Giambi 4th lowest RISP in AL. Oy
he had him struck out too… way to go cleanly shaven one
Ah feels good to be wrong, nice going Giambi. (Although I was right about him needing to shave the stache)
Paging all Giambi haters…. where ya at now?
LOL, what a gift run. Thanks ump.
The ‘stacheless Giambi finally delivers again!
Ah I am such a sucker for baseball superstition!
Obviously so is Jason!
1 for 1 without the stache.
Giambino!
finally we get a break and Giambi takes advantage
‘stache free is the way to be.
well thank you UMP
“youkilis and pedroia always seem to be getting hits when i follow the box score… boston up 2-0 top 1″
Dont worry about Boston until they are in 1st the Rays matter the most.
Okay, X-Man, what’s your hurry?
Why can’t Giambi hit the other way like that more often
“Paging all Giambi haters…. where ya at now?”
I’m not a Giambi hater, but I still say he should be batting 6th.
Good call NongEyeJackClark – We didn’t know how to keep track of his hitting when he grew the stache so we need to remember first game in Texas is the first game without the stache!!
Hopefully Joba can keep his pitch count down in this heat
Comon Nady, you have to take a pitch there!
I think Padilla’s body double George Lopez is on the mound today.
Has Joba ever had run support this early? He might not know what to do.
Wish we got more from that. Oh well.
Joba time
Joba-time!
Giambi better buy that ump a beer tonight. He makes the correct call and we’re all here estimating how many runs Big G costs us batting 5th in a given night.
But it’s about time we get a call, we are owed several by the baseball gods after past BS.
Poor Oakland. Talk about a string of bad luck!
JoeT – thanks for being a wise-ass
nick: i hear the ax has been tearing up the stanford golf course….LOL
way to go giambino…it was the stache afterall….
too bad X man had to swing at the first picth…i hope he wasnt taking batting advice from cano.
Good ratio one pitch one out I like.
JoeT- one pitch, one out. just so you know.
1 pitch and 1 out=me like
Kinsler helping to keep Joba’s pitch count down.
26 pitches to go
Laird kinda looks like Luis Sojo.
it’s only been half an inning…but these announcers are annoying
Trisha, I thought about your positive & optimistic attitude today on the golf course as I four putted an eight foot eagle putt…..
Frozen!
“too bad X man had to swing at the first picth…i hope he wasnt taking batting advice from cano.”
With Melky out of the lineup, he thought that someone should do his job of swinging at the first pitch.
doesnt X-man lead the league in avg?
First pitch strikes – very smart Joba!
Wow sick curve/slider today. I’ve noticed how Joba has improved the command of his offspeed pitches since he began starting.
Here in the Midwest we pronounce the name of Xavier University in Cincinnati as ZAVE-yuhr. But all the announcers, including Kay, Chip Carey, and Mr. Singleton tonight, call Mr. Nady EX-zave-uhr.
I believe he’s from California, and I wonder how he and his family pronounce his first name.
Seriously…it’s been bugging me, big time.
Young is like Jeter back when he was still good.
i have the YES feed on my directv..usually when there is only one feed, its usually the home feed. I’m glad to hear the yanks feed.
Joba is my prototype of the perfect Yankee. He is excellent at his art; he is always humble about his achievements and gives credit to the rest of the team always; he is respectful of the competition and gives credit where it is due; he is quick to call himself on things when he has had an off outing (on those rare occasions); he appears to have such a delightful personality and a good sense of humor; and he appears to be drawn to Pukelis’ head! (joking about that).
What an awesome young man he is.
I like how Joba pointed to Pudge and said “You take it”. LOL!
they showed Al Leiter’s K’s per 9 in ’88. Over 9. Why oh why did they trade him for Barfield when they could have used a young ace pitcher. That trade, the Henderson trade and getting rid of Rijo, what the hell were they thinking back then?
Paul O’Neill said the same thing about the university.
They said they asked him and he pronounces it EX-zave-uhr.
When you get Josh Hamilton to hit a ball that poorly, you’re doing something right.
I hope Cliff Lee is the All-star version of himself today.
He prefers the X pronunciation of his name.
13 pitches. Sweet.
Very economical inning in the heat. Only 13 pitches.
MLB.TV is giving the Rangers feed.
Oy Robbie, please to be not swinging at the first pitch!
John in Ohio: Espn player page has it pronounced Zav-e-yuhr. But i heard an interview with X and suzyn waldeman. She asked him is it X avier or Zav-e-yuhr. He said X avier or his friends call him X.
Fox theme song?
Sadly, Abreu would have never made that play.
Robbie got robbed there!
Teams only field this well against the Yanks.
They just interviewd a guy in the stands with Yankee gear on, and he nad mouthed them WTF?
Christian time baby!
bad mouthed
“Teams only field this well against the Yanks.”
How do we know? We only watch them when they are playing the Yankees. LOL!
GIl meche is horrible…
At least Christian hit it to someone other than the 2b, ss or LF, unlike Melky.
Then Ex it is.
(sarcasm) Christian sucks, send him to AAA! (/sarcasm)
“Trisha, I thought about your positive & optimistic attitude today on the golf course as I four putted an eight foot eagle putt…..”
Pat M., is four putting an eight foot eagle putt a bad thing? (Horrified to admit I know very little about golf).
““Teams only field this well against the Yanks.â€
How do we know? We only watch them when they are playing the Yankees. LOL!”
Obviously nobody watches every game but it just seems like the web gem of the day is always against the Yanks I guess teams play harder.
He may not be Ty Cobb, but at least JC puts the ball in play and can work the count. He’s struck out just once in 28 ABs.
Well that wasnt a very good job by the bottom of the order, but I think Christian saw more pitches than Cano & Pudge combined. Robbie was robbed though – since when do the Rangers play good defense?!? Since the Angels make 6 errors in 1 inning, I guess, haha.
That is by far one of the funniest moments in Yankee history.
I heard that he’s Xavier Nady the 7th, or something like that.
Somewhere along the way they probably just got tired of correcting people on how to pronounce it.
Melky is just in a slump. He is a young Bernie. We can’t give up on that kind of talent.
That’s our Bobby!
ball’s carrying tonight.
cmon.. cliff..
“Obviously nobody watches every game but it just seems like the web gem of the day is always against the Yanks I guess teams play harder.”
Oh, teams definitely play harder and with more intensity when they play the Yankees. Take BAL. I’ve actually seen some of their games against BOS. They play us hard, but they are scared to death of BOS. It’s like night and day.
NongEyeJackClark – i was being serious but alright
Joba better get his act together if he hopes to be nearly as good as Liriano.
Don’t mention Melky and Bernie in the same sentence please.
wow tied game cliff….
V,
I don’t think anyone in the Yankees organization thinks Melky has an upside like Bernie. If they do, they should be fired immediately.
“Joba better get his act together if he hopes to be nearly as good as Liriano.”
What do you mean?
Joe T – my bad.
Great battle back from the 3-0 count for Joba!
What a great comeback from down 3-0. Way to go, Joba!!
Trisha: 4 putting is a bad thing all the time
Joba is in a groove – He’s just plain nasty.
Rebecca, great female minds think alike!
Rock on Joba! Very nice
Jim S……Another disaster trade from that era was the Doug Drabek trade for Rick Rhoden…..
w00t! God I love that slider
Joba > Liriano
“Joba is in a groove – He’s just plain nasty.”
He pitches with so much confidence. It’s very refreshing!
I am not a pitching coach but I think Joba has only thrown fast ball and curve so far. Am I missing his slider?
I have not seen it yet…
IF this is true he is saving it for later in the game…
Pete/Anybody – What happened to Bob Sheppard’s replacement this weekend. Clearly on Saturday and Sunday, it wasn’t him and I wasn’t impressed. It sounded like the annoucher for the games played during the innings, the marriage proposal announcher etc. Please tell me Bob’s replacement will be back on the next homestand. THANKS!
Michelle, thanks.
Pat M., then all you have to say to yourself is, “oh well, get em next time!” And be happy that you didn’t five putt it! Right?
It’s amazing how Joba doesn’t seem to be phased by any of it.
Tons of young guys would have collapsed after what happened last october, but Joba has only gotten better.
This is the face of our franchise the next decade, assuming things go as planned.
barb that guy who did the games this weekend was from wfan. He just replaced the replacement for the weekend. Rest assured Hall will be back.
Okay, Damon, what was up with that swing?
OK, f Cliff Lee then.
He’s been bad lately…he isn’t winning the Cy Young over Mo!! In every start besides vs. someone ahead of us, I root against him with fervor. I hope he gives up 10 ER in his next start against some team like Seattle.
Laura, I’ll agree with you on that. All females think alike.
GAME RECAP ANYONE? PLEASE…
“Joba > Liriano”
Both have nasty sliders but steve philips wont acknowledge it and say hansen has the best silder in baseball
I may lose my MLB Extra Innings feed. We are having T-Storms and my cable is going in and out.
“Am I missing his slider?”
Gameday has him throwing sliders – so there is a 51% chance they are right.
BTW – If anyone hasn’t checked out Chad Jennings report on Hughes and Shelley Duncan it is worth a read.
This Padilla guy is annoying the heck out of me. Throw the frackin’ ball, you tool.
Irrelevant comment, but Oakland may have the worst offense seen in decades.
Laura, you can use my online account if you lose the game. You aren’t in the NY market, correct?
Is it just me or could you read War and Peace in between each pitch Padilla throws?
Does Padilla remind anyone else of steve trachsel?
“Laura, you can use my online account if you lose the game. You aren’t in the NY market, correct?”
Thanks for the offer, but I still have my MLB.tv access so I should be fine if I lose cable.
Haha, I guess I’m not the only one who was getting aggravated at the time he was taking.
Thanks Trader, I read up on the google search JRVJ posted. Lots of good stuff.
Did I imagine it or did Christian slip when trying to get out of the box last inning? It may have been a figment of my imagination. If he did, he may have had an infield single as he was not thrown out by much.
53 pitches and counting…
I’m starting to think that he’s using the long delay to throw the hitters off.
JR: Christian definitley slipped.
“GAME RECAP ANYONE? PLEASE…”
Great game so far. Both pitchers getting the job done. yanks leading 1-0 in the top of the 3rd.
You do realize that if you have internet access you can get gameday on MLB, yes?
Rangers announcers really rspecting Jeter. And yes the Drabek deal was another disaster. We could have had Drabek, Rijo and Leiter in that rotation. With Guidry to mentor at his end.
Wow…bad at-bat, all the way around by ARod.
What is wrong with arod the past 5 games he at least took a strike 3 out every game odd…
WTF Arod. Just stood there like a statue. You didn’t get the timeout call! Swing the bat!!!
How is it that the pitcher can take forEVER to throw a pitch, but the hitter isn’t given time when he asks for it?
Disgusting at-bat.
Okay, so the pitcher is taking a frackin’ hour to throw the ball and it’s A-Rod’s fault that his timing is off? These umpires have got to be fired. They are unbelievably bad this year. It’s unreal.
hmmm way to go alex…he should know better than to assume the umpire is going to give you time…
A-rod was doing his Manny imitation…
god i hate the rangers commentators, buncha stupid rednecks gettin all hyped up for an awesome K that was obviously outside whiel arod was tryin to call time and then the dbag umpire rudely emphasizes the K..
GB7 – All females think alike.
Statements like that will get you in deep trouble!
THAT was an awful inning – good hit by Jetes, but Alex & Bobby & Johnny – oh, my!
terrible AROD.. idiotic AB.. He has a little smirk on his face.
he threw away that AB.
BULL cr-p
Cubs in rain delay. Indians/Ray are on ESPN if you care.
Ugh ridiculous!!
Padilla is SO SLOW!! Girardi should complain, isn’t there a rule in place where the umpire will call a balk if the pitcher is taking too long? (thats the basic gist of it anyway)
A-Rod just keeps on amazing us.
By the way, Padilla can’t be that good. We’re making him look Cy Young worthy.
And what happened to that crap about them trying to speed the game along? I haven’t seen one of them say a thing to that idiot pitcher about throwing the frackin’ ball quicker.
Actually, Alex tried to call time before the last pitch and didn’t get it.
So it wasn’t a good at bat but it wasn’t as bad as you think.
Padilla just blowing the Yanks away now. How un-fun.
the rangers guy just said that its rude to call time and chew gum when arod called time…wow..wow..gah i hope he hits a jack next time up
I love David Delluci
Cleveland retakes the lead on 2R David Delucci HR
umpire didnt hear him call time…hmmm
Arod giving a shout-out to his pal Manny there?
2-run homer for Delucci, 4-2 Tribe!
A Phil Coke sighting:
“I talked to Chase Wright last week about Phil Coke, and Wright said Coke’s slider had been unreal in Trenton. He wasn’t lying. Coke just struck out Jonathan Van Every — lefty with 24 homers — then got Josh Wilson to groundout to strand runners at second and third here in the seventh. Coke was sitting at 92 with his fastball and showing a huge slider that I swear he didn’t have for that spot start earlier this season. That was awfully impressive. ”
From Chad Jennings.
4-2 Indians on a Delucci HR
anyone hear the announcer say on Abreu’s strikeout that ‘according to the sport tracker it still would have been a strike if he hadn’t of swung’.
where in the world do they get these guys
“Cubs in rain delay.”
Actually, they are in a thunder and dangerous lightning delay. Strangely enough, some fans are still sitting in their seats. Brave souls. Stupid as well – but then they’ve been following a team that hasn’t won for 100 yrs so I guess I shouldn’t be surprised.
hahaha
wow…yanks are lucky there.
Overslidalamachia!
….and the 240 hitter gets a hit. But it wasn’t you melky.
Thanks jennifer- I got your back Girardi
What’s Hall’s first name? Anyway, it was a letdown after old timer’s day to hear the guy from wfan. It wasn’t that he was bad, he was way too commercial sounding. Thanks again for the information.
thats one way to throw a runner out…
and that was a dirty curve
XD at Jeter
that was a gratuitous tight butt shot of jeter for us ladies…
That was kind of funny, the overslide.
If you’ve had these and care to answer, what is your favorite pizza?
I have to order something for dinner and I’m sick of Chinese food.
Domino’s
Papa Gino’s
Ronzio’s
Pizza Hut
Papa John’s
Those are about the only franchise types that I think people might know. We have other good pizza but it’s the kind you have to go and get yourself and I absolutely just don’t feel like it.
(I hate to cook.)
As Michael Kay would say, that play at second looms large…
CLE up 4-2.
kinsler,young,and hamilton great 1,2,3
nick that was hysterical
Doreen, you can’t do any damage to me. I’m untouchable..
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And don’t make any remarks about the untouchable part of that.
Come on Joba, one more out!
tied game in boston!
Mister Intangible.
Hhhmm, out of those-Pizza Hut
Bad pitch selection there..
That’s more range that DJ’s shown all year.
great stop by jeter
cmon joba
come on Joba-1 more
And KC ties the score. WOO HOO!
Good stuff on Coke TK.
I haden’t heard too much about him until about a month before the trade with PIT. Then when he was traded, I didn’t think much of it. Sounds like he is progressing nicely though. Maybe a good non-trade.
TRISHA – PAPA JOHN’S by far…we dont get it on the west coast! Their garlic sauce is awsome.
Ok…so Joba got beat on the fastball by Young in the first at-bat…what does he throw here?
Thanks S.A. Pizza Hut then it is going to be.
GB7
44 pitches through 3 innings… Good job by Joba so far in being economical
Oh Joba be good!
great job!
Rangers announcers are what they are. They should get excited about the home team a little, but they did mention Arod tried to call time. Calling them rednecks? Hell I’m a 30 year LIer living in Memphis now, and there are so many northeners here as there are in Arlington. That’s a ridiculous comment. Sorry if we decided not to get pickpocketed anymore back in NY.
Wow….great pitch. This dude can buckle down. Great testicular fortitude.
There’s your slider stuart!
Niiiiiice!
Uh oh. Just saw Michelle’s! I do love garlic sauce (as any good Italian should!)
Love the Joba
Back to work bats
JOBA!!!
And Jeter laughs at stat geeks
The garlic sauce from Papa John’s is good. Not too much a fan of their pizza though
Especially when you have a big stash of Coca Cola, GB7.
don’t know if anybody said this already, but they are showing redsox/royals on espn during the cubs rain delay
Papa John’s pizza is too sweet for me. I don’t love Pizza Hut’s crust.
Domino’s has always been a guilty pleasure of mine, though nothing beats a true NY slice of pizza
you no buchholz and hughes are similar. Buckholz pitch a no hitter and hughes almost had one if it wasnt for the injury, they both have 93-95 mph fastball and a nasty curve, both have the same numbers this year
Any save in this game should go to Jeter. Saved two runs there. Heads up to tag out the base stealer, who would have scored on the double, then saved a run with his stop on the next hit.
KC takes the lead – still have runners on 1st and 3rd
I like Domino’s Philly Cheesesteak Pizza. The provolone cheese on it make it taste fairly decent.
West Point – is there any reason we should care greatly about Francisco Liriano? Good for him if he’s doing a good job.
Interesting to see Shelley Duncan back in AAA. I’m not sure he’s got a place in the Yankee organization anymore. As much as I love his attitude and work ethic…I can’t see them needing his RH bat now that Nady is in the OF. Christian gives them speed. Sexson is the RH half of 1B. Arguably he could take Sexson’s spot…but I don’t see it right now. He might be in AAA the rest of the year and be traded after the season.
“Sounds like he is progressing nicely though. Maybe a good non-trade.”
Yeah – I am in the same boat that the first time I heard about him was when he going to Pitt, then not going to Pitt.
Every lefty in the system is precious – since the list is Traber, Coke, and Bleich if we sign him out of Stanford!
Does anyone know? Nolan Ryan – all of his no-hitters, did he ever not walk a batter in a game?
‘stache gone is good!
“Sorry if we decided not to get pickpocketed anymore back in NY.”
NY may have a bad rep (that is not deserved), but I’m 100% sure that we never had one of our citizens drag a man behind a pickup truck to his death. That’s something I’m sure all Texans are proud of.
Giambi, 2-2 with a HR and 2 RBI sans stache
Giambi…and facial hair. WTF
I think maybe Giambi should have shaved a little earlier.
pornstachless hits a home run!!!!!!!!!!!
the Stache was holding him back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Go figure.
shave and a haircut – 2 runs!
GEEZE LUISE!!!!
Believe in Giambi’s mysticism!!!
2-2, HR, 2 RBIS for the cleanly shaven one
STACHELESS!!!!!!
Who needs a ‘stache anyway!?
Behold the power of the bare upper lip!
Big G goes upper deck…
I shaved my ‘stache this morning too (I didn’t know about Giambi’s ‘stacheless upper lip), lol.
I knew the stache had to go!!!!
Wow – John Sterling said Giambi hit it in the upper deck of Tiger Stadium –
Hope he filed a flight plan.
“KC takes the lead – still have runners on 1st and 3rd”
YES!
Going to KC to watch.
Dude.
Anti-stache.
Love it.
Giambi must be seeing the ball better without the bush distracting him.
Bucholz has turned into a zero.
Bases loaded by the way, 2 out. 4-2.
Why does Nolan Ryan look like he knows he’s the man?
Haha, one good stereotype deserves another, Laura.
I felt really safe everytime I’ve been in New York. Safer than I felt in Washington DC, for sure.
Well I get to eat another plate of crow, as I petitioned for The Giambino to be dropped in the BO…..Goes along with all the Moose mudchips I’ve dieting on all season….
big moment in sox game being shown on espn cause of rain delay
Nothing beats Ma and Pa NY Pizza. Chains suck big time. Memphis has an actual Italian population that has some former NYers making really good NY style pizza and even sicilian.
Respect the Giambino!!!
people who leave nyc to live anywhere that’s not on a coast (not counting chicago which is a great city) was never really a new yorker. you’re a flyover country person who deserves to get pickpocketed because you’re an ignoramus.
buckholz is losing it!
Just when all of us agreed that Girardi should move Giambi down in the lineup-BOOM!
KC let them off the hook, they (and we) may regret that.
Sokay. Inning’s over but KC leading 4-2. And I have to think that bases loaded with 2 out means pitch count has to be up a bit.
barb sorry for late answer i believe his name is bill hall something like that.
and Chicago style pizza is a friggin joke.
For those not in the market, Yankees are on ESPN right now, YES feed.
Vicente “Molasses” Padilla crossing the 75 pitch barrier.
Everytime I boo Jason or bring up numbers about how much he sucks, he makes me look like a fool.
I guess I’ll have to boo him everyday.
“buckholz is losing it!
”
Jim loumalnadis in Chicago kicks butt. I haven’t had it in years, and am considering ordering a pie. it costs a lot to send.
WOOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I guess Robbie’s hand is feeling better.
Cano!!
That’s right, Angel. The Coca-Cola gives me liquid encouragement.
Yard CANO
Robbie Cano, dontcha know.
What do ya know…Cano
ROBBIE off the SCHNIDE also…
“you’re a flyover country person who deserves to get pickpocketed because you’re an ignoramus.”
Really?
Because I always thought that people who thought things like this were fairly ignorant.
CANO!!!!!!
w00t!
Nice Job Robbie!
http://www.loumalnatis.com/
MMMMM
Dontcha know!!!!! Guess the hand feels better!
That was a great AB leading up to it too.
E-Man,
I was cursing Giambi too prior to this game…but will continue to do so after this game. I still think he’s cooked.
OK I’m an ignoramus. I lived on the south shore of LI for 30 years, 4 years in HAWAII stationed as a Marine, and then got out and got a great job in Memphis low cost of living good pay, near lakes with actual sand adn not too far from the Gulf. Yeah I’m an ignoramus.
Has Cano ever NOT gotten a hit when he sees that many pitches in an at-bat? Is the sample size for that question one?
I swear I heard them say Bucholz threw 33 pitches that inning. Not good.
“Well I get to eat another plate of crow, as I petitioned for The Giambino to be dropped in the BO…..Goes along with all the Moose mudchips I’ve dieting on all season….”
Pat M., not you!!! Uh oh, that could have been 4-putt karma.
is Justin ever gonna swing the bat?
“OK I’m an ignoramus. I lived on the south shore of LI for 30 years, 4 years in HAWAII stationed as a Marine, and then got out and got a great job in Memphis low cost of living good pay, near lakes with actual sand adn not too far from the Gulf. Yeah I’m an ignoramus.”
Originally from KC, MO, now in NJ (work in the city). Yup, this d00d was a moron.
Good Point San Fran Nick…..
Baseball players are uniquely superstitious (as are most athletes). I now fully expect Jason Giambi to become a witch doctor once his baseball career ends.
Nick: How many at bats like that does Robbie work?
Someone’s got to find out if the Big G is wearing the thong tonight.
Jim S: we have this pizza place called Zachary’s Chicago style pizza here in the bay area and it is awesome. Their sauce is perfect and the crust is flaky… But i have to admit that NY style pizza is my favorite and i have yet to find a pizza place on the west coast that makes great thin crust ny style pizza.
Doreen, I seem to remember a couple of complete games, by Ryan, when he was in his mid 40′s. Not sure, though. I do remember some 175 and 200 pitch games, though.
Woah, Prince Fielder attacked Manny Parra.
Prince fielder pushes his pitcher on the becnh and the princ had to be held back
And LI is not NYC thank you very much! And Ron Ron take your thousands in taxes and unbelievable fuel costs and shove it. I left because Albany is killing LI. And I am as much a NYer as ever. But now I can afford to go places.
That was a great 20-30 mintues time span. Yankees take 3-0 lead, cle leads tamp 4-2, and kc took the lead too 4-2
Nice to see those run thingies.
‘stache-less Giambi doing well so far
Back to work Joba
wow did u guys see the fight between two brewers, fielder and the starting pitcher, fielder really shoved him and looked really pissed
Fielder hit him because Manny Parra ate his cookies that were in his locker.
What has happened to Clay Bucholtz, anyone know? I thought he was supposed to be lights-out…I’m sure he will be in the future, but has anyone followed what has been his problem?
Best pizza I ever had was in Florence…freshest tomato sauce ever. I can’t eat dairy, so the only pizza I can have is with tomato sauce and other toppings. I had one with olives and mushrooms and I thought I’d died and gone to heaven.
I actually like a sweet sauce, or even a sauce with a little bite to it, but I do not like a salty sauce.
I also like thick-crust pizza.
When the Apprentice was on, maybe the first season, well I didn’t watch it but I do remember that Domino’s marketed a pizza that was supposedly devised by one of the contestants, or one of the teams, whatever. It was called their cheeseburger pizza and they only had it for a short period of time. That was one of the best pizza’s I swear I ever tasted. It was great!
NYY – Win
BoSux & Rays – Lose
1 game closer to both in 1 night – PRICELESS
Sadly, Albany is killing Albany, as well.
“wow did u guys see the fight between two brewers, fielder and the starting pitcher, fielder really shoved him and looked really pissed”
I hate to see two players on the same team fighting. I’m all for baseball brawls, but of the opposing team kind.
dvab just gave the kod
Someone else, I never insulted someone staying in NY. If you have a good job and can afford the cost of living, more power to you. But NY,CT, and NJ are killing people with costs, forcing many like myself to leave. But don’t knock other places where there are NYers everywhere who left also.
No more complaining about Giambi in the 5 hole ok?
I thing I miss about living in Chicago was the pizza. Love the deep dish pizza there.
Of course while I was living there I totally missed good old NY pizza.
I don’t mind seeing teammates fight…but nothing out of hand. There’s always going to be issues, and I guess the disappointing thing is they didnt take it into the clubhouse instead of the dugout.
They keep talking about rookie of the year… What about Joba????
Let’s not get ahead of ourselves dvaB. It would be great but really all I care about is winning our games.
Not gonna lie…I will be rooting for KC and TB tonight though.
Does Joba qualify after last year?
“Someone else, I never insulted someone staying in NY.”
Jim, that’s not true. You made the comment about leaving because you were tired of getting your pockets picked. That’s insulting to people currently living in NY or those who live elsewhere, but still consider NYC home.
Anyone living in Chicago that wants to send me some lou maltis pizza.
crap….
Oh Damn
Joba be not good.
Glad we got those runs last inning.
I remember getting pizza somewhere in Italy, maybe Rome not sure, and the thing I remember most was the fresh basil on it. That was great. But the thing I remember more was stopping at those little cafes in Italy to grab something quick and they all had that fresh mozzarella and tomatoes on some kind of toasted Italian bread, and they drizzled it with oil and then topped it with basil. Damn that was good!
And damn, good thing that Robby hit that homer…
Ah crap…a hanger.
Ok I obviously meant CLE not TB.
“Does Joba qualify after last year?”
Yes
“Of course while I was living there I totally missed good old NY pizza. ”
When I go back home, that’s the one thing I make sure I do; go get some pizza.
Interesting week for Melancon in SWB. From CJ:
“So far this season, the Yankees have made sure Mark Melancon enters a game at the start of an inning. That will be the case for one more appearance, then Scranton/Wilkes-Barre will be allowed to insert Melancon into a game with runners on base to see how he reacts. Contreras stopped short of calling this a final test before Melancon is big league ready, but it certainly seems significant.”
I like BBQ sauce on my pizzas, shrimp too.
Speaking of eating things, has popular LuHud Yankee Blog poster randy l. commented on the Livan DFA bombshell?
I’m worried that randy is hunkered down in front of his cupboard with a shotgun knowing that a hungry Livan is on the loose.
Now that sucks.
throw the slider!!!!!!
Melancon hasn’t appeared with runners on yet?
well that sucked
Joba, strikes please?
Wats the deal with all this breaking stuff JOba throw that heater a lil more often
Pizza,,,,There’s a place two blocks from the Ballpark called Stadium Pizza, as good as there is…..Started going there when I was a kid back in the 60′s…..
“Anyone living in Chicago that wants to send me some lou maltis pizza.”
What is lou maltis pizza?
“What has happened to Clay Bucholtz, anyone know? I thought he was supposed to be lights-out…I’m sure he will be in the future, but has anyone followed what has been his problem?”
Same problem as hughes
come on Joba
Okay, bats – back to work!
I think Joba is getting overheated. Lots of pitches this inning. This should put him over 70 with only 4IP.
looking at gameday, joba’s control has deserted him. Perhaps some fatigue already
Shelly Duncan with the two run jack on his first day back. He’s going to lead Scranton to the Intl League championship.
nice to see joba so ticked off at himself…i hope its not an act but i doubt it is
Well, Laura I never considered NYC home (LI
) , but it hurt to have to leave because of the costs, and I hear my friends still in Suffolk county working 2 jobs to pay the bills for ridiculous taxes, and my parents couldn’t afford the taxes on a military pension when they retired and had to leave LI also. So I have bitterness towards the powers that be in NY gov’t. But hey I can afford to come back a lot because things are cheap here and you don’t have to bang your head against a wall to pay bills here. Anyway go Yanks.
“Pizza,,,,There’s a place two blocks from the Ballpark called Stadium Pizza, as good as there is…..Started going there when I was a kid back in the 60’s…..”
Since I trust you (well most of the time…) I am going to give it a try. I got tickets for the last game.
Melancon hasn’t come into a game so the only basenunners have been his own. Two in four innings so far for SWB.
Could use some more insurance runs here.
*come into a game in mid-innings
I think she meant Lou Malnatis.
Eric in Australia, do you ever watch games over the internet on MLB TV?
“They keep talking about rookie of the year… What about Joba????”
He’s running a pretty solid 2nd right now.
Jim S. – My NJ property assement went down 14K this year which reduced my taxes $54 a year and I was happy. While I’m a Jersey girl to the end, I can understand why others leave this area.
Isn’t David Murphy an ex Red Sox?
Anyone see Prince Fielder push the Brewers starting pitcher,Parra, in the dugout. That’s one guy I wouldn’t want to say anything bad about his momma!
damn joba — DFA him right now…(sarcasm)
i had pizza in naples and it was damn good…..
Padilla’s around 85 pitches, he shouldn’t be long for this game.
pat where is that?
trisha http://www.loumalnatis.com/
Anyone think Giese is more useful out of the bullpen? I’ve heard he’s only really got 2 pitches, which is why he has never really been a consistent starter.
“So I have bitterness towards the powers that be in NY gov’t.”
I understand. I want to go back to NYC, but can’t afford to. Pretty soon, only the very rich will live there.
I don’t know if Joba is running 2nd in the ROY…they just showed Longoria and Murphy’s stats. Longoria will be hard to beat.
Jennifer, now that looks like my kind of pizza. I love deep dish!
Where is Stadium Pizza? Since I had to drive all over the Bronx last year on opening day looking for parking, I didn’t spot it. Thanks for the info!
Giese’s first real taste of starting came this year for SWB. It has shown how much more comfortable he is coming out of the pen.
I want to order it, but it is almost 80 bucks for 4 pizzas, and I’m not sure if they send it freeze dried.
Have they called the Cubs game yet? This is the worst T-Storm we’ve had all year. At one point, I was hiding in the bathroom.
Terrible AB, but at least he didnt you know what.
Padilla tough on the righties tonight.
“Longoria will be hard to beat.”
I completely disagree. Longoria is a good player and all, but his batting average isn’t anything special, and he strikes out WAY too much.
Pretty pathetic AB, cap.
I don’t see anyone beating out Longoria for ROTY. I don’t think Joba qualifies.
more runs please
Ooohh ya can order the pizza online? $40 bucks for 1 pizza? Oy to the vey
Thanks blue
eGreat deal. An extra base and an extra pitch.
“I completely disagree. Longoria is a good player and all, but his batting average isn’t anything special, and he strikes out WAY too much.”
The rest of his stats will carry him through. That plus I think that he’s had a couple of game winning hits as well.
Wow, that bad Laura? We had one of those last Wed night. We lost power in ours. Hope that doesn’t happen to you.
“I completely disagree. Longoria is a good player and all, but his batting average isn’t anything special, and he strikes out WAY too much.”
Take away Longoria and Tampa Bay slides. He has played like a veteran and has driven in huge runs. His batting average isn’t bad considering he is a rookie and isn’t playing like one.
“I don’t think Joba qualifies.”
He certainly does.
Giambi fans will enjoy Pete’s 8:21 update.
Nice gift, ump, we’ll take it.
These umps are full of it. They are supposed to be trying to speed the game up yet they say nothing to this guy for taking frackin’ 15 mins to throw the ball.
sa- It would almost be cheaper to fly out there.
OK…opportunity for a-rod here to give joba some cushion…
runner on 3rd with 2 outs…
what will he do??
““I don’t think Joba qualifies.â€
He certainly does.”
Even though he pitched last season?
“Take away Longoria and Tampa Bay slides. He has played like a veteran and has driven in huge runs. His batting average isn’t bad considering he is a rookie and isn’t playing like one.”
What did you say in that paragraph that Joba hasn’t also done? Longoria isn’t going to lead the league in anything. Joba can possibly lead the league in era.
“I don’t see anyone beating out Longoria for ROTY. I don’t think Joba qualifies.”
Joba most definitely qualifies, but it’s Longoria’s to lose right now.
Cliff Lee just slithered out of a 2-on none-out jam with no runs scored.
arod its about time to get a hit with risp
Two blocks up on 161st on the right side past Walton Ave…..I will not say it’s the best, but I don’t think I’ve ever had better…..
Nice play by asdrubal cabrera to take a hit and a run away from Navarro and lee gets out of the jam
Throw. The. Damn. Ball.
Miller – you’re right about Longoria, which is why he’ll be hard to beat.
“Wow, that bad Laura? We had one of those last Wed night. We lost power in ours. Hope that doesn’t happen to you.”
Thanks, Angel. I’ve got my fingers crossed. Funny, I’m actually mostly concerned about not being able to watch the game. LOL!
good job a-rod…drawing the balk!
HAHA that is for being so slow
I’ll take my runs any way I can get, balks or not.
I have never seen a pitcher take so freaking long to throw the ball
“A Jersey girl to the end”
Barb, that sounds like it could be a title to a Springsteen song.
Joba’s been incredible. He’s had one bad start since he joined the rotation, and that was his first. And he was so good in the bullpen that most people thought he shouldn’t be moved.
Longoria’s a great player, he’s only going to get better. But Joba is already is his prime.
wow… go at him Ron…. ridiculous
MLB really needs to take a look at some of these umpires
wow – neither of them were balks. we just got lucky.. what are the rangers brodcasters saying?
“Even though he pitched last season?”
rookie = “someone with less than 75 at-bats or 45 innings pitched in any previous season”
Serves him right for taking an hour to throw the ball.
Hey-I’ll take the run
hahaha
Good, it’s about time!
Finally, Arod is clutch again.
Alex is so unclutch that batters get themselves driven in rather than risk him stranding them.
Yeah, see thats what happens when you keep messing around on the mound. You put yourself at risk for picky balk calls.
Umps are punishing him for taking 10 minutes in between pitches.
Mary’s Pizza, Islip terrace. The best I ever had. Sal’s in Sayville pretty close second for me.
i guess 4-2 is a lucky nubmer for the yanks
trisha – no i dont. only what we get here on espn and fox. sometimes we even get the YES feed.
why have we scored 4 runs on this pitcher when we faced Lackey a Cy Young candidate last nite?
should be 30-2
Wow…talk about bailing AROD out.
Man he really likes saying “ticky tacky”
yeah anyone listening to the Rangers broadcast? i’d love to know what they’re saying
Ticky Tacky?
Rishi: Ever see Steve Trachsel pitch?
I mean, I saw what they might have considered a balk, but I doubt that’s called much. I don’t really pay that much attention to a pitcher’s footwork for that reason. So, while I’ll take the run, I’m very much unconvinced that Damon shouldn’t just have been on second.
“why have we scored 4 runs on this pitcher when we faced Lackey a Cy Young candidate last nite?
should be 30-2″
Wow, talk about an unthankful Yankee brat ‘fan’.
D00d has a 4.50 ERA. They’ve scored 4 through 5. That’s not bad.
“Longoria’s a great player, he’s only going to get better. But Joba is already is his prime.”
Joba in his prime? I hope not. I expect his prime to be several years away. He’s been great but he still has a lot of improvement to make.
“rookie = “someone with less than 75 at-bats or 45 innings pitched in any previous seasonâ€
Actually it’s less than 130 AB’s and 50 IP…or 45 or more days on the big league roster before 9/1
LOL! I know what you mean. We lost power again yesterday afternoon when a transformer blew, and I was mostly pissed because it was in the middle of a game. It came back on the pitch before Nady hit his 3 run HR. But still it was really annoying.
I must admit I’ve found really good pizza in Memphis though, but I sure miss LI deli’s and bagel shops. Barbecue is the king here.
Balked then walked home!
Soon we should get into the vaunted Texas bullpen!
I’ll take a NY deli over barbecue any day though
Hey, I remember a game when Cone was a Yankee and balked home a run.
BTW, why didn’t ESPN give us a full Brett Favre update today? They’ve completely neglected to report whether Favre had a bowel movement.
jason bay is 0-3 with 2 k’s
How I love symmetry.
KC winning 4-2; Cleveland winning 4-2; Yankees leading 4-2.
How is this for ESPN at its godawful “best”:
You know how they have the changing pictures with captions.
Yankees: picture of Jason Giambi clean shaven. Caption reads “Hair loss: Giambi shaves stache to reverse luck.” Under it is the box score showing the Yankees leading 4-2.
Rays: picture of Cliff Lee pitching. Caption reads: “Surging Rays run into one of AL’s Toughest Arms.” Under it is the box score showing Cleveland leading 4-2.
Sux: picture of Jason Bay. Caption reads: “Red Sox can keep riding momentum of big trade”. Under it is the box score showing the KC leading 4-2…
So, Christian in center. How’s that working out so far? Does he look like he belongs out there?
Its on Wednesday night baseball on ESPN on Wednesay, Eric. So you might get that game.
I sympathize, I used record every game I could get when I lived there.
at least the Navy base here has Boars head meats. Those of you in NY still, you don’t know what you are missing when you can’t get Boar’s head.
Oops sorry. That’s MLB.com. Not ESPN.com.
i love Coney but i want to smicky smacky him upside the head and have him take out and review some his old dusty Connecticut School of Broadcasting textbooks.
Well, that’s six hits for the Rangers. Joba’s not quite as sharp as he’s been, but, I mean, when he’s “struggling” to a 4.50 ERA, that’s pretty remarkable.
Good point, Rebecca – I’m just taking naps between pitches today! And you’re not getting the ump trying to speed them up either!
The Big G cracked a few jokes before the game about shaving his infamous ’stache. The clubhouse kids, he said, wanted to save the hairs. But they’re gone. “That kind of creeped me out,†Giambi said. “Who knows what they’d find in there.â€
What? Um eeeeewww?
Joba, control.
Clay – Well he did sing Jersey girl even though he didn’t write it! I’ll start writing it now. I could probably finish it before this Ranger pitcher pitches 2 more innings.
Anyway hope I didn’t get on any nerves, Go Yankees!!
come on Joba. Strikes
Caught a break there and nice heads up from Pudge.
If Art Howe gets thrown out too are we looking at Saltalamanager?
Longoria will win the Rookie of the Year hands down. The voting won’t even be close.
In fact, Longoria will probably get a few MVP votes – although he has no chance of winning it.
He also has a decent shot at a Gold Glove this season.
Take away Longoria and the Rays are not in first place. And that’s the truth.
HA! How about that?
Seriously, I think we should give Pudge at least one start with each pitcher before we pass judgment on his pitch calling. He’s never seen some of these guys, much less caught them.
WHAT?
you see joba hit the deck when i rod thre to 2nd? hilarious
That didn’t hit him at all!
NEvermind.
“What has happened to Clay Bucholtz, anyone know? I thought he was supposed to be lights-out…I’m sure he will be in the future, but has anyone followed what has been his problem?”
I think I got into his head just a little bit.
Hey Ron (Wants to Be One of Max Kellerman’s Much-Maligned Interns), do you really think Joba is in his prime? He’s been great but do you know the definition of prime? It’s usually downhill after someone’s prime. Hopefully Joba still in the early part of his career!
if you can’t tell on the replay – how can you reverse it?
Kinsler is out
What a joke of a call to overturn something like that…These umpires are a disgrace…
Changes the entire complexion of an inning…I don’t know how Davidson makes that call, seeing as how he’s all of the way at 2nd base.
Wow that was total BS!
Wow, these umps are on fire.
“If Art Howe gets thrown out too are we looking at Saltalamanager?”
Worse: Andy Hawkins
Sheesh, shady calls all over the place.
What the frack
“Well, that’s six hits for the Rangers. Joba’s not quite as sharp as he’s been, but, I mean, when he’s “struggling†to a 4.50 ERA, that’s pretty remarkable”
Tough pitching on a night like this. Exceedingly hot, on the road, against a pretty damn good offense.
How’s that not a fair ball? Those umps are ridiculous.
Wow. Wow. Wow.
How did that umpire reverse a call? Was he absolutely blind?
I HATE MLB UMPIRES!!!!!
Eric, if you ever want to watch the game over the internet on MLB.com, give me your email address and I will be happy to mail you my sign in information. I have an account but seldom need it since I get all of the games on television.
holy crap – that looked like a 3-run HR to me
Nady is a good fielder.
BRIAN CASHMAN YOU ROCK!
I don’t get it, the ump was right on top of the play! He was looking down at the ball!!
unbelievable how mlb umpires can allow a player and coach to change their minds…this mistake could be costly
What a joke. MLB has to do something about these umps. How could the 1B ump see what happened better than the HP ump?
Strange game. Heat does strange things.
Joba, for the love of Joe DiMaggio, CONTROL.
I thought that was gone for sure. Whew!
Damn…I saw that coming.
and then to listen to these moron announcers say ‘it looks like it rolled down kinsler’s legs’
BS
Or, you know, give up a three run jack.
JOBA! Calm down.
That stupid reversal completely blew that inning.
That Hurts!
Well, we knew this was coming.
Now he needs to keep it here.
Anyone who plays in this ballpark can have an MVP season.
That is unreal. Joba’s worst start now. Good news is the ball is flying out, the final score will be like 11-9 Yankees.
This park is a joke. What a launching pad. That umps reversal really hurts now.
unearned runs for the Error on the umpires?…. You would think that in the Major Leagues you wouldn’t have such horrible officiating (which went for and against us so far)
Damn damn damn
Joba is miffed. You can read his eyes thinking that if those calls hadn’t been reversed this would not have happened.
Oh well, we’ll come back. And if you say those balks weren’t balks, well things even out.
We. Need. Instant. Replay.
and the bad call is very costly here
I figured that was going to happen. Whenever a call like that is over turned it always come back to hurt the team. Girardi needs to take him out. He has nothing now. No control what so ever. Girardi needed to get thrown out after that call. You cant make a call and then the opposing new manager cries like a baby and you change it. Girardi is a disgrace for not make a stink about it.
thanks, umpires! as usual, your wagers are good.
ugh – a very unJoba-like outing
Great job by the umps. Great Great job.
hottie alert!
pink top upper right hand corner pitcher cam view
meowwww
Notice how the Ranger commentators aren’t whining about the umps now.
Well you guys know whatever the final score is, it won’t be 5-4. Not the way this game is going.
That was very poor pitch selection by the way, you can’t fall behind Young 2-0 and then expect to get a FB by him.
i mean i love joba a lot but he needs to use his fastball for strike one..juts stop fallin in love with one pitch..and i think he feel much comfortable with jose molina..
He can’t keep falling behind hitters. It’s not that he’s not throwing strike one; he’s not throwing strike two either. He’s missing by 6 inches.
This explains why Josh Hamilton was having such a great season.
That was a ‘I hope Joe gets ejected’ bad call.
I dont know why umpires aren’t given errors from the official scorer for mistakes they make, lol.
Trisha – while I agree that they weren’t balks (either of them) that costs the Rangers one run and not a single extra pitch, this costs the Yankees 3 runs, a ton of pitches, and possibly an inning worth of Joba which means an extra inning from the bullpen to start a 4 game series
That was really a crappy call. The umpire was bullied into that reversal while initially making the right call plus Joba almost got his head ripped off by pudges throw
friggin trade joba – this is dumb – get it done – he is emotionally unravelling. this is only texas. not even a good team.
trisha we got one run, they got 3 due to horrible umping.
Nothing Bob Davidson does surprises me any more, since the horrible WBC. why does he keep on getting umpiring stints? And how could he be the crew chief????
He looks tired.
Can I please blame Pudge?
I HATE MLB UMPIRES!!!
WTF…
bad inning for joba
And here’s the end of our season…
this game is a must win hoping the Yankees can out together some good AB and get the win
wtf – is joba hurt
uh oh.
Joba is gassed, probably dizzy and dehydrated from the heat.
We just need 1 more little out. He does seem tired
That. Is. Not. Good.
Oh my god
these aint torre’s yanks,
You’re either a trolling sox fan or an idiot if you think joba should be traded based on one game.
Great just what we needed. A shoulder injury…
Oh sh*** ……
this cannot be happening…..
hey Joba, howza bout trusting yer HOF catcher and focus on pitching. It’s like an actor directing his own movie, just do the one thing right Orson.
Shoulder….egad. My stomach just dropped.
“i mean i love joba a lot but he needs to use his fastball for strike one.”
He’s tired. They should have pulled him from the game.
The first thing a pitcher loses when they tire is location and command. That’s what’s happening.
It’s only the 5th but it’s clear that he was losing his stuff.
He’s human. For whatever reason he’s tired. They need to get him out of the game.
What BS. Total BS. Terrible call, and it affected the game tremendously.
This is why we need INSTANT REPLAY, INSTANTLY. You CANNOT let idiot umpires affect pennant races.
That one call cost us the lead, possibly the game, and who knows if that one game means a lot down the line in this pennant race if we don’t come back. And now Joba had to throw extra pitches, and is possibly hurt, and our bullpen will be taxed.
One wrong call, and its implications are felt all the way down. YOU CANNOT LET UMPIRES DICTATE THE SEASON. UNBELIEVABLE.
Uh oh.
OH GOD NO!
I think Joba got hurt on the unexpected I Rod throw to 2nd. Guess it wasn’t hilarious after all. !@#&%$!@&*!@&*%
I think Joba got hurt on the unexpected I Rod throw to 2nd. Guess it wasn’t hilarious after all. !@#&%$!@&*!@&*%
Well, that’s not good. No Joba, you are playing for 2009. Man, this team is snakebit this year.
I hope I’m right… but I think he’s just a real big guy and it’s 100+ degrees
Oh no…
chamberlain is now a head case…which is typical for a 22 yr old. he needs to get to control
REAM ME WITH A RAKE!
Can we get a FRIGGIN’ break?
That’s not a good sign, having Chamberlain touching his right shoulder.
If Joba is done, our season is over.
OH no. I hope that isn’t a serious shoulder injury!
As Joba points to his shoulder. He shouldn’t have even been throwing anymore inning was over. Thanks umps.
hey Joba, howza bout not shaking off and try trusdting yer HOF catcher and focus on pitching. It’s like an actor directing his own movie, just do the one thing right Orson.
omg
I agree they weren’t balks, but Padilla left himself open to them too, by his stalling tactics on the mound. If he threw the damn ball in a decent amount of time he wouldn’t have left himself open to the extra scrutiny.
Oh sh*** ……
I concur….
well that is bad news right there loks like he was pointing ot his shoulder
Oh god everyone please say a prayer!!!!!! Better just be tightness!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111
“friggin trade joba – this is dumb – get it done – he is emotionally unravelling. this is only texas. not even a good team.”
without a doubt…the dumbest thing ever written on this board
nooooo
No.
I have a sick deja vu feeling.
Texas is poison.
May the whole state burn down to the ground.
That ball clearly hit the batter in the thigh. The only question is if he was in the batter’s box or not. You can deny it all you want but the umps made the right call – even without the benefit of instant replay.
………..and there goes the Yankees season. Pointed to the shoulder.
GOD NO!
See you next year.
Oh my God, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Please Please Please…….don’t let it be his shoulder… Please Please Please
Oh Jeez. What is with the injury curse on the Yankees?!?!
Um yeah. I am very worried. I need a drink
All of this because that moron wouldn’t stick to his original call. What a joke this MLB is.
Texas is bad luck for Yankee pitchers.
Thanks for not calling the double play correctly, umps. Die in a fire.
500 Curveballs later, what do you expect?
It looks like this will be on Pudge.
Somebody sacrifice Pavano to the pitching gods!
I am starting to believe that we are cursed. Joba out with an injury? Not good. Yankees are 101% done for the year if that is the case.
son of a heffalumper…
Did he try to over throw after the horrible call?! Its possible since he never looked the same after it. Joba was pissed after the call but he needs to control himself better then he did. You cant become a hot head and loss control of the game. Over throwing might of done it…Thanks umpires you jerks…
Well the injury bug keeps on bitting us.. Keys to the seasons is to always stay healthy.. Well guess what we have had some singnificant injuries this season..!!
Every team has injuries. But it seems like there’s a friggin’ rule that we have to lose every important player for a significant period of time. This is f#cking absurd!
And if that POS umpire had done his friggin’ job, NONE of this crap happens!
god texas sucks for our young pitchers…those bastards are a curse on our team…man i hope they all burn
In the attempted DP ball during Kinsler’s AB, Pudge threw right over Joba’s head and Joba did a flip and fell over his shoulder… the showed it on the Rangers feed of mlb tv.. i hope its not his shoulder or arm…
wts it with Texas and our young pitchers… honestly i thot immediately abt Hughes’ injury at that no-hitter… this makes me feel sick…
Please let it be a cramp…how do we voodoo these freaking stupid umps
Guys, it’s also 100 degrees out. It could be a heat cramp. Let’s keep the freaking out until wen we actually know what happened?
What is it about Texas and our pitchers !!!!
Wang
Hughes
Chamberlian
Cone thinks it is a cramp issue, get back on the bridge.
what is this….who interviews show boys who wear their own shirts…terrible
the return of hughes and IPK will save us.
Ok everybody calm down, it’s probably nothing. Let’s not start writing off the season yet.
will you please all just shut the hell up? seriously. anyone under 14 on here, just go to bed and i’ll have your parents block this site so you never visit again.
let’s wait and see what happens. worst case scenario, you lose a player, you preservere. it’s happened every year since the dawn of friggin time. if half of you possesed any sort of long term memory, you’d know this.
Joe Girardi’s face does not look good…
lol Ralphie…. that would be a tough prize to claim, but yeah I gotta agree with you
Based on where Joe G is pointing it’s only muscle there, hopefully just dehydrated/cramping…. we’ll see though
its a cramp, its 100 degrees
Brandon: Maybe we just need to stay out of Texas.
With the way things have gone for this team the last few years, did any of you -really- think we were going to be allowed to have a good young pitcher?
I mean, really?
Sacrifice Pavano just to be safe!
Put a friggin’ dome of this dump. I’d never go to a game in this heat.
LET IT BE A CRAMP PLEASE !
Well now I hate the Rangers broadcast. They have gotten ridiculous. They were fair at first, but now it is a joke.
Brandon, its a sign that Texas doesnt like Yankee pitchers.
paging Ian Kennedy, Ian Kennedy , paging Ian Kennedy
“Its possible since he never looked the same after it. Joba was pissed after the call but he needs to control himself better then he did. You cant become a hot head and loss control of the game.”
Wow – holy assumption train.
Joba did hit the deck pretty hard when he got buzzed by Pudge’s throw.
David Cone’s growls are less endearing with this potential Joba crisis. We need a good news update STAT.
the rangers feed had a replay of the reversed double play Pudge threw the ball to second and Joba was about half way to the plate the ball almost took off his head. Looked like he could have hurt himself getting out of the way
could be just a cramp-must remain calm
Alright-let’s get the lead back. I hate Texas!
What are they saying Jim?
“Don’t worry guys, I’m on my way to the major leagues to take Jobas spot”
-Carl Pavano
I am glad that an umpire can be sweet talked after making a call. How exactly does that work??!! You hand the umpire $50 and then he changes it?! Disgusting…
Can you spell D-o-n-e? That is what the Yankees are. They were hanging by a thread, with Joba being one of their few hopes. Now what ????/
Joba said he heard a pop. I read Steve Donahue’s lips. Wow, this is gunna be real bad.
Texas curse
first Hughes now Joba
The batter was OBVIOUSLY and BLANTANLY out of the box when he got hit. Replay showed it. The naked eye showed it.
It’s a case again, of an idiot umpire being pressured into making an incorrect, “home town” call by a player and team throwing a hissy fit because they’re crying about their own mental screw ups on the field.
The balks they were 1/2 correct on, but that call was HORRIBLE. HORRIBLE. The FIRST BASE UMPIRE, who CAN’T EVEN SEE THE PLAY, overturned it. That is NOT his call. You CANNOT take the game into your own hands. 1 out, 1 on, who knows if the whole inning never comes to fruition. Even if it did, the game is still TIED.
The call cost us the lead run, our starting pitcher, possibly for a start or even more, and possibly a huge game in a pennant race. Where is the accountability?
2 umpires on this crew have already made the most disgraceful calls you have ever seen and we’re not even 5 innings into this game. You make a call like that, you miss at least 1 series. No excuses. There needs to be accountability for bad umpiring.
You misjudge the market and make a poor choice of client for the bank to loan out to, you are fired. Period, no if’s, and’s, or’s, or but’s. Umpires misjudge the play, they should miss games.
At least he didn’t point to the back of his shoulder, that would be a bad sign
“You tell those sons of bit**es no Yankee will ever play in Texas as long as you bastids are running things!”
“the return of hughes and IPK will save us.”
I don’t think it is funny for someone to steal sunny’s name and post something that could be interpreted as positive.
Hopefully Joba is okay.
Our season is hardly over no matter what we find out. But yes we would miss the boy.
On what planet is that pitch a strike, you idiot?
Kind of hard to blame all of the curveballs on Pudge. Joba had been shaking him off all night to throw the curveball. Reminded me of the game earlier in the year in Cleveland when he gave up the 3 run bomb to Sizemore to lose the game because he was shaking off Moeller too much to throw sliders. Rookie mistakes tonight cost Joba.
But, that’s not the story if he’s hurt. His health is more important than the game.
Hopefully, he just cramped up. No way of knowing anything just by watching on TV.
I see someone is impersonating me tonight. This is my first post in the game thread.
he was out there for a long time and jumping around CRAMP CRAMP CRAMP CRAMP CRAMP
SAY NO TO INJURY!! CRAMP CRAMP CRAMP CRAMP!!!
The power of the baby smooth.
UGH, I loved this game 2 innings ago!
Matt, can we get a quick check of your blood pressure?
How long do you think Pavano would be out if he hit the deck like Joba did??
We can see why Padilla is 12-5, playing in this crap park.
The last pitch Joba threw was 96. He was sitting at 94-96 that inning. Same as he was most of the game.
Hopefully its nothing serious or that he wasn’t trying to throw through pain. His velocity staying level is at least a good sign.
They went over the board about how you can’t beat them in their park, and no surrender during that inning, then showed these actor clowns with a Ranger announcer in the stands singing about the Rangers.
Please post whatever they say about the injury….
Tommy, Joba just said he wants a can of pop. Those funny prairie people. Don’t start false rumors.
Is nobody questioning how Pudge handled Joba in this game? He made him throw an abnormally high amount of offspeed pitches, especially when Joba has a dominant fastball in 100 degree heat. Why is he throwing curveballs more than 25% of the time? If his shoulder is off from the result of throwing so many curves and sliders, I would put at least some of the blame on Pudge for calling them. I don’t think Molina ever called for so many offseason pitches from Joba in any of his outings.
“Joba said he heard a pop. I read Steve Donahue’s lips. Wow, this is gunna be real bad.”
LOL!
CRAMP CRAMP CRAMP CRAMP CRAMP
another fake person?
Fake V’s
Fake CB’s
Fake SJ’s
Tampa Lost. We’re going to win, Joba will be fine, hang in there Yankee faithful
Joba was twitching his hand/wrist a couple pitches before his last fwiw.
What I need right now is a 3-run Jack and a medical report of a cramp.
I love all the trolls coming out of the woodwork.
any one think his arm tighten up because of all the breaking balls he was trowing
Tommy, you can lip read?
I don’t think Joba can throw 96 if he heard a pop.
Cano swinging at 2-0
I don’t even care about the season at this point. With a shoulder, you’re talking about a guy’s career in the balance. This is a guy who’s given us reason to be very optimistic about future seasons. If this is something really serious, that feeling gets shelved.
The trainer was talking and Girardi wouldn’t even look at him. If you want to read Girardi’s body language it does not look good.
Pudge has been solid calling this game don’t start blaming him. IDK what’s up w/ Joba but now I’m scared.
Awful AB by Cano there whether he hit the ball hard or not. First two men get on and now 8-9 hitters up.
“another fake person?
Fake V’s
Fake CB’s
Fake SJ’s”
One troll, and Pete won’t do anything about it. Maybe if 100 people e-mail him, he will. Otherwise, he won’t.
Joba shook off Pudge…Pudge was not calling that game.
rangers commentator just called cano’s line out to left field a jam shot supposedly just like giambis and nady’s…man that ball was whacked…
“Is nobody questioning how Pudge handled Joba in this game? He made him throw an abnormally high amount of offspeed pitches, especially when Joba has a dominant fastball in 100 degree heat. Why is he throwing curveballs more than 25% of the time? If his shoulder is off from the result of throwing so many curves and sliders, I would put at least some of the blame on Pudge for calling them. I don’t think Molina ever called for so many offseason pitches from Joba in any of his outings.”
What the hell do you idiots have against Pudge? I don’t think he’s ever FACED Joba before, let alone caught him. Joba was shaking him off in any case. Stop blaming the guy who has almost no control over the pitch selection. He makes suggestions, not friggin’ decrees.
Alright-while I am refreshing this blog every 3 seconds trying to find some Joba news..must try and focus on the game.
Get them home!
A pop can be various different things. Let’s back away from the ledge slowly.
He does shake off way too many pitches…..I’m not going there SJ, Took too much heat the last few times it was mentioned…..He does fall in love with the off speed stuff during the course of a game….
rangers commentator just called cano’s line out to left field a jam shot supposedly just like giambis and nady’s…man that ball was whacked…
these guys are obviously smokign the good mexican weed and i m gonna haev to get some
joba was tired they didnt want him to pitch anymore so they came up with this fake injury so edwar has the time to warm up
“Is nobody questioning how Pudge handled Joba in this game? He made him throw an abnormally high amount of offspeed pitches, especially when Joba has a dominant fastball in 100 degree heat. Why is he throwing curveballs more than 25% of the time?”
If his arm was bothering him the curve ball may have been an easier pitch to throw.
His curve ball is around 17-20 MPH slower than his fastball and 10-12 mph slower than his slider.
The curve puts less stress on the arm than a slider does.
Throwing additional breaking ball in one game is very unlikely to cause an injury.
It could very well be a sign that his arm didn’t feel right.
Calm, soft, and sweet. It’s all under control. We’ll find out what we do, when we do; and the Yankee organization will take whatever steps are necessary to insure that the Yankees remain competitive – if any steps are necessary.
Just trust and keep sending out good vibes that we keep the hits coming.
It will just tell you that you don’t own the name SJ44, and go on using it because it can. It’s ridiculous.
That BS call lead to such a long inning, which probably led to the shoulder giving out……..not only did it blow the game it hurt our ace
Steve was talking to Joe with a someone standing in front of him. Unless you have xray vision no one saw what he said.
Christian = overmatched
If Joba felt a pop, he’d be in a hell of a lot of pain. He looked more irritated to be coming out than in agony.
JC is overmatched here.
be nice TK, I’m really a nice guy.
Can we get a hit here!
Right now you can’t even care about the game. You care about Joba. Joba isn’t about this year, but about our team’s future.
You hope it was a cramp, but Joe’s body language did not look to re-assurring.
We probably won’t know anything for sure for a while.
come on Justin
Comon guys, need to get a big hit here.
rewind all of your TIVO’s and watch Steve talk with Joba when he is walking to the dugout.
dang it
Showalter said on BBT he pointed to the front of the shoulder and that’s always better than the back of the shoulder. We can only hope so.
““Is nobody questioning how Pudge handled Joba in this game? He made him throw an abnormally high amount of offspeed pitches, especially when Joba has a dominant fastball in 100 degree heat. Why is he throwing curveballs more than 25% of the time?â€
If his arm was bothering him the curve ball may have been an easier pitch to throw.
His curve ball is around 17-20 MPH slower than his fastball and 10-12 mph slower than his slider.
The curve puts less stress on the arm than a slider does.
Throwing additional breaking ball in one game is very unlikely to cause an injury.
It could very well be a sign that his arm didn’t feel right.”
CB, normally I respect your opinions, but think about it. Joba is the jewel of the Yankee franchise. If he cuts himself shaving, he might miss a game. If Pudge knew he was hurt, there is no way in this or any other universe that he doesn’t tell Girardi and Joba’s gone way before this inning.
Joba NEEDS to develop the curve to sustain his dominance. So throwing more of them, especially to throw these very good hitters off his fastball and slider, is hardly a bad idea, or indicative of anything else.
The Real Original V
August 4th, 2008 at 10:17 pm
“another fake person?
Fake V’s
Fake CB’s
Fake SJ’sâ€
One troll, and Pete won’t do anything about it. Maybe if 100 people e-mail him, he will. Otherwise, he won’t.
It did me last night. I just made my name as unique as I could. Maybe it will run out of names to impersonate.
Same ol’ problem, can’t get that big hit with men on base.
The season is over.
Man.. i was counting on watching Joba pitch against Angels next week.. have the tickets to the weekend series… i am trying to refresh the mlb tv, cant take any more of this rangers feed….
Pat M,
I remember. lol Joba shook off Pudge to throw the breaking ball all night. That’s not on Pudge. Rookie mistake by Joba this evening in some situations.
Either way, its unimportant now. His health is all that matters. The game is secondary at this point.
I also read Donahue’s lips when he told Girardi he heard a “pop”. That could mean a lot of things. Sometimes, you breakdown scar tissue and that’s not serious. Sometimes, its a more serious injury.
One positive is, its in the front of his shoulder rather than the back.
Its impossible to discern what it is judging by sound. No way of knowing until you hear something official.
And for those of us who don’t have Tivo and those of you good at lip-reading, what was said?
I care about the game.
V – yeah I would definitely favor registration here – as long as we can still change our “tag line” because we’re Yankees fans and our opinion changes every 30 seconds. It would be nice if we could make one user name – “JoeT 28 in 09!!” and then have a spot where we could change stuff.
Either way though, 99% of the people that are here everyday can tell when you, SJ, or CB (and most other regulars) are being impersonated.
Just rewound it, couldn’t make out what he said.
Hey SJ44 and CB, have you noticed a pattern (or one of them anyway) with the Yankees’ announcement, or failure to announce the extent of injuries.
The longer it takes them to reveal the source of the injury during a game, the more serious the injury tends to be.
Coincidence, perhaps, but something I’ve noticed.
Noooooooooooo . . . please let it be just a heat cramp. Hope Joba’s OK. Amazing how strong and fragile the human body is. Coney is right that he showed maturity in telling them about it right away.
As an aside, it was gratifying to see Steve Phillips give some love to the Yankees “young bullpen” on Baseball Tonight this weekend. The bounty of pitching in the minors and on the big team is really beginning to pay off, and its pretty exciting. In the meantime, let’s go Yankee offense and bullpen (and please stop hitting the ball to third, short or left center field)!!!!
God please take Pavano’s arm instead
That one call, it changed the whole game, possibly the season.
Joba was forced to throw extra pitches. Not only did he surrender the lead, but it might have worn him out and made him susceptible to injury in the heat.
And not only that, but it affected and possibly lost us the game, when both teams ahead of us most likely seem to be heading to losses. There is no way Texas scores more than 2 runs that inning without the help of the call.
One call, one game, but possibly our playoff chances hanging in the balance as well. This is why there has to be either instant replay or umpire accountability in place, and NOW.
why would i make this up?
Two hits to lead off the inning against a pitcher already over 100 pitches in 100 degree weather and the Yankees come away with no runs. Unacceptable.
“The last pitch Joba threw was 96. He was sitting at 94-96 that inning. Same as he was most of the game.
Hopefully its nothing serious or that he wasn’t trying to throw through pain. His velocity staying level is at least a good sign.”
I think this is key here. Thanks for the reminder, CB.
Good to see both CB and SJ on board right now. You guys are the class of this board.
Nice job by Edwar.
Get to work bats
according to someone watching the texas broadcast of this game, the ump said to a-rod “dont f-cking talk to me that way, you can’t, i’ll call it however the f-ck i want to call it.”
On Baseball tonight… for what it’s worth….
Kruk didn’t think it was a cramp.
Showalter said it was a cramp from the heat.
Kruk then commented that Joba was throwing a lot of 3-2 breaking balls and it could be a cramp from throwing so many of them.
Considering Showalter managed Texas & Arizona, I’ll take his instant analysis over everything else.
Most insightful item from Showalter…no one will know anything until tomorrow from when the swelling goes down. He said there is no reason to speculate.
Shut down by Vicente Padilla. Now that’s pretty weak.
“why would i make this up?”
Because you didn’t post anything until then, and are trolling perhaps?
put it this way, ill ask Joba tonight. He is my boy. I work for Big G. Pete knows me.
when the count is 2-0 on cano they should take the bat from his hands. seriosuly, why does he keep swinging 2-0 and 3-0. a walk is just as good. sigh
The Ump Union is going to put up a huge fight and frankly, I’d just bring in some replacements. I’m with you Matt…accountability is absolutely necessary for umps, as it seems like they have the freedom to make game changing (hopefully not in Joba’s case, career changing), season changing mistakes without so much as a slap on the wrist. I am so sick of them…and then when you question them, you get a guy like Bob Davidson who wont even hear you out and youll get kicked out.
I’m glad to see Edwar right back out there. No need to let him think about his failure any more than he has to. This kind of middle-inning relief role is what he’s best suited to.
Interesting that Girardi went so quickly back to Edwar after yesterday’s debacle. Not sure whether he’s trying to get him his confidence back or what. Guess Geise starting Friday locks him out of the long relief for tonite.
Trainer: How you feelin’, Joba?
Joba: I just need a can of pop.
I like how Girardi brings in Ramirez after a bad inning yesterday-builds his confidence.
Maybe A-Rod should be more worried about getting a hit than the umpire overturning a call.
When did 4 runs become shutdown?
“Shut down by Padilla.”
What in the world are you talking about?
I was just getting hot out there guys, Pudge told Joe to take me out of the game so I could crack open a cold one in the clubhouse.
“Good to see both CB and SJ on board right now. You guys are the class of this board.”
Now SJ44 has all the bad news he can manage. His constant negativity finally pays off.
Beedogs – I really wouldn’t doubt that, for some reason umpires put on a blue shirt and think they’re god. Really annoys me – especially at the high school level (I coach hs)- but umpires talk to you like you don’t have any clue about the game… IDK what was said to A-Rod, but it looked like the umpire was yelling at A-Rod, and at the time I said “who the ____ does he think he’s talking to? That’s A-ROD!
Texas has the worst pitching staff in the AL. Can we score some runs please???!!! Guys wake up..Does anyone know when Arod is coming back from his vacation?
Beedogs, I saw Davidson mouth that to ARod too…and then ARod turned away.
As for the Texas bullpen, we better tear them a new one.
Okey Dokey Tommy, are you tommy the green power ranger by any chance?
“I care about the game.”
So do I. I don’t remember the last my obssessing about something over which I had no control or information did me any good or changed the course of events. I’d prefer to concentrate on winning this game and wait for the rest to unfold.
I’m sure Joba is going to live no matter what, and I’m sure he’ll be fine, be it tonight, tomorrow, or in several months. As long as he didn’t leave with a career-ending injury, I can deal with it.
John Kruk knows less about baseball than Joe Morgan. It’s incredible but true.
He sometimes makes Steve Phillips look smart. And that’s really, REALLY hard.
I’d trust Buck on this one.
“Trainer: How you feelin’, Joba?
Joba: I just need a can of pop.”
HA, I hope that was the conversation.
We’ve had the worst luck w/ injuries this year I have this pit of my stomache full of crap feeling
Four runs is hardly getting shut down.
One could argue that the umpires are at fault for Joba’s injury. He would have been done with the inning had they not overturned the call.
KS,
Yup. That’s how the Yankees roll when it comes to injuries. They have certain “buzz” words when it comes to discussing injuries publicly. Its why the beat writers go nuts because sometimes, the team makes them look bad by, how shall we say, “fudge a bit” on the truth of a particular injury.
I hope the kid is ok. He’s must see TV when he pitches and it would be a crushing blow to this organization if this is a serious injury.
Its why when we have our daily discussions about next season, I always mention signing CC and bringing back Moose and Andy. You can never have enough pitching.
“God please take Pavano’s arm instead
”
Yeah, right. He’ll probably go win 20 #@%$ing games next year.
If it is a shoulder injury he’s done til next season at least. Maybe career.
All I can say is if I hear Dr James Andrews’ or Dr Altcheck’s name anymore this year, I’m going to bite a cyanide tablet.
that mound in texas is not good for visting pitches, literally and figeratulvely
I couldn’t make out what he said either. Must be better at lip reading than I am.
“If Pudge knew he was hurt, there is no way in this or any other universe that he doesn’t tell Girardi and Joba’s gone way before this inning.”
Let me clarify my last post. I was not trying to imply in anyway that Joba was throwing his curve ball tonight because his arm was bothering him. I obviously could never speak to that.
All I was trying to do was to say that there is no way you can blame Pudge for Joba’s injury by saying that he kept calling for curve balls (and this is outside of Joba’s shaking him off).
Whatever is wrong with Joba has nothing to do with Pudge’s game calling for 5 innings. That’s has nothing to do with it.
And BTW Joba already has a great curve ball. Some scouts rate it as a 70 grade pitch which is a plus- plus pitch. A 60 grade pitch is considered an all star quality pitch. His curve is considered by some to be better than an all star caliber offerring.
Gene Michael has said that he thinks Joba’s curve ball could be better than his slider. It’s already that good a pitch.
Let’s just hope he’s ok and we get to see more of that curve ball.
I usually kill Cano and Melky for swinging at too many pitches but that was a 2-0 fastball in the middle of the plate. Cano put a good swing on it; he just hit it where the LF was playing him. I can’t blame him for that.
The at bats that bother me are when they swing at a 3-2 ball in the dirt.
I actuall like the way Cano looks tonight. Hit the ball well all 3 times. I hope he’s over his injury and ready to get back to his post ASB run.
the sound you just heard was the yankee season being flushed down the toilet!!!
Will Jeter ever put together a hot streak this summer?
Wow, thats a terrible SJ44 impersonator.
So now our offense is going to fail.
We better not make guys with a 5.00 ERA look good. We are only down one run here.
and after the rangers take the lead the yanks just give up there. damon swung at ball four and jeter a weak fly out.
This season is pretty much done if he’s out for any extended time.
Good thing Kennedy and Hughes pitched so well.
absolutely no way to know what happened to joba until we hear a report, and even then, you know you can’t ever take the yankees’ word for it.
let’s hope it’s just a cramp because, if not, i will FREAK OUT!
Trisha, I love your attitude and outlook on the useless nature of worry.
You know, im starting to prefer molina from now on… i just dont like how pudge calls a game? i know he hasnt been with the club too long and doesnt know the pitchers that well… but i mean come on, the guy clearly doesnt call a game as good as molina
You know, im starting to prefer molina from now on… i just dont like how pudge calls a game? i know he hasnt been with the club too long and doesnt know the pitchers that well… but i mean come on, the guy clearly doesnt call a game as good as molina
Does this team realize the game is still winnable? They don’t seem to rally much, if ever unless they’re at home and have all the luck in the world.
texas is the place where yankee pitchers go to die, i.e. phil hughes.
Jamey Wright looking like a superstar…come on guys – plate a pair.
This is a game that should be won.
Neil,
The answer to your question is a resounding “NO”
We need an update on Chamberlain, although a MRI wont happen till tomorrow
“the sound you just heard was the yankee season being flushed down the toilet!!!”
Oh will you stop with the drama! Take a chill pill.
I don’t know if Kruk knows less than Morgan…that’s a tough one.
I stopped watching Sunday night baseball because I couldn’t stand Morgan/Miller (mostly Morgan). I haven’t watched a game in at least 2 years.
Kruk reminds me of a cleaned up version of Artie Lange.
Steve Phillips is the know-it-all guy in the office I avoid.
They are all horrible.
“And BTW Joba already has a great curve ball. Some scouts rate it as a 70 grade pitch which is a plus- plus pitch. A 60 grade pitch is considered an all star quality pitch. His curve is considered by some to be better than an all star caliber offerring.
Gene Michael has said that he thinks Joba’s curve ball could be better than his slider. It’s already that good a pitch.
Let’s just hope he’s ok and we get to see more of that curve ball.”
I’ve read as many Joba scouting reports as any prospect-hugger. What I haven’t seen is that curveball equal the quality and nastiness of his other two pitches in GAME situations.
Thats funny Dick. I guess your some kind of doctor with X-Ray vision that can see inside someones shoulder through a TV. You are a talented fellow.
I’M BETTER THAN JOBA ANYWAY!!!!!!! YOU’LL SEE!!!!!! I HAVE THE ONE PITCH NO ONE ELSE CAN DREAM OF HAVING….A BUCKLEBALL AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! I WILL SAVE THE 2008 NEW YORK YANKEES AND WIN THE ALCS AND WORLD SERIES MVP TROPHIES!!!!!
“God please take Pavano’s arm instead
”
lol
The Yankees got a gift facing Jamey Wright and they come away with a 1-2-3 inning and are now 6 outs from being 1-3 against the Texas Rangers on a night when the Rays already lost and the Red Sox are losing. Their inconsistent play is really just a joke.
I would think that if it was just a cramp, the Yanks would have released a statement by now, dont you think?
i beleive picthers have found bobby;s weakness. a breaking ball that break right inside.
it makes me sick that they get that kind of money and they cant do CRAP.its unbelieveable..
The Pudge move has not boosted our team much, if at all. Molina is far superior defensively, at calling a game, throwing runners out, and blocking balls, and so far, Pudge has not done much if anything at all at the plate that has been an upgrade over Molina. Couple that with having to learn an entirely new pitching staff filled with young guys he’s barely seen and the move is costing us games now, with it being questionable whether he’ll help us win extra ones later on.
Joba, Hughes, and Wang – all knocked out of action in Texas. I’d start Melky tomorrow night. At least he wouldn’t have to hit.
Rasner can replace Joba thus year. And Giese and Kennedy can help.
The defeatists here disgust me.
“texas is the place where yankee pitchers go to die, i.e. phil hughes.”
Don’t forget Wang.
I don’t know why any pitcher would want to sign with Texas.
I don’t know if I like Bruney here in a 1-run game. We have a chance to pick up a game on both the BoSox and TB.
He has a shoulder injury.
The worst injury for a pitcher. We may never see the Joba we have seen ever again.
I hope you’re right Carl
The combination of no announcement and the way Girardi reacted to the trainer means it’s very likely this is not just a cramp.
Someone reminded Jason Bay he isn’t Manny –
0-4 with a team high 4 l.o.b.
Um – Boston threatening
Honestly? I think the Yankees are much more concerned about Joba than they are about this game.
Can’t say I blame them, though it doesn’t mean they shouldn’t win this game.
It’s still a very winnable game.
tampa has lost and boston is losing. that should be enough motivation to pull out a victory. last i remeber wilson has very wild when he closed out against the yanks. perhaps we have a chance
KS,
Their injury information is like white noise. Completely uninterpretable.
I’m afraid we’re not going to know what the real story is here until he gets an MRI.
Let’s just see.
You know the Yanks are going to wait as long as possible to answer why Joba left the game. Even then in the post game you know Girardi is going to say nothing..Basically Joba just felt a little something, we wanted to get him out of there but we don’t think it is anything serious. When it could ready be something or nothing. Girardi NEVER tells the truth with injuries.
How can people deride the Pudge aquisition? He has been here since Friday people.
“Stiff right shoulder”
Does anyone have a yankee injury report decoder ring?
just read a report that it was a shoulder. damn!
KC still leading 4-2 in the 8th.
Travis, I’m sure that we love Joba as much as anyone else here does, but if life gives you lemons you make lemonade.
We have a game to win here.
“A stiff right shoulder.” WebMD, anyone.
Well, the Joba Era was fun while it lasted.
How can people deride the Pudge aquisition? He has been here since Friday people.
“A stiff right shoulder”
Hmmmm…what can that mean?
“Stiff right shoulder” is the original diagnosis for the injury to Joba.
sean casey just got away with one in kc. ground ball to end the inning he claims hit him. they called foul and he gets a hit.
the ball was no where close to touching him.
“Stiff right shoulder”
Does anyone have a yankee injury report decoder ring?
stiff right shoulder doesn’t sound too serious does it?
Stiff shoulder…
THANK GOD!!!! just a stiff shoulder according to YES
the worst injury for a pitcher is an elbow not a shoulder.
the worst injury for a pitcher is an elbow not s shoulder.
“Stiff right shoulder” is the original diagnosis for the injury to Joba.
KC should bring in Soria for a 4 out save, no?
“Stiff right shoulder?”
Sounds like that’s one missed start, maybe two if it heals slowly. Also could be nothing. Or it could be more serious.
Still, that’s no torn rotator cuff or labrum.
Can everyone get back on the bridge now? stiff shoulder? Any explanation please?
My Take: “Stiff right shoulder” = Joba was tired, Robertson was ready but we wanted Edwar to come in and needed some extra time.
I hope that’s right. BTW if he was going to go for an MRI (which he would if he was serious) they would have said something like he’s sore today, we’ll see how he feels tomorrow and send him for an MRI. The fact that they said it’s a stiff right shoulder makes me feel good
“Stiff right shoulder”
Does anyone have a yankee injury report decoder ring?
I hope Bruney does not let this get out of hand.
If Joba’s out for the year, this has got to be one of the busiest seasons for a GM.
What Cashman and Girardi have dealt with is incredible.
And now, finding themselves without their most dominant starter, having to find a possible waiver deal, or rushing kids up again from AAA.
Cashmoney needs a vacation.
Stiff shoulder, that’s a cramp isn’t it?
ard leads off next inning. he should emulate young and try and hit the ball to right center, as it seems to travel far.
Kenny Singleton just said “stiff right shoulder.”
We can say all we want as to how the Yankees like to creatively name injuries, etc. I’m kinda liking “stiff right shoulder” right now. That can unstiff when it’s a nice 85 degress in Texas tonight.
Hey, Suzyn Waldman said that the Yankees announced Joba left with shoulder stiffness. Can you get much more opaque than that?
ESPN reports just pain in Joba’s shoulder
Matt,
Pudge has done pretty well offensively. He got that homerun that got the team started yesterday.
I just have a pit in my stomach thinking something bad about Joba. An elbow injury, thats one thing…a shoulder…is everything. Egad
I feel sick. No really, I’m not sure if I’ll sleep tonight.
BBT saying report is “right shoulder pain”. That tells us nothing.
“Someone reminded Jason Bay he isn’t Manny –
0-4 with a team high 4 l.o.b.”
Must be channeling his inner Arod. (;
The broadcast said “Stiff Right Shoulder.”
Now can these hitters go out and hit the worst pitching in the league? ONE RUN against the worst pitching in the league. You’d think they could do at that?
ray’s fever is catching on!
they packed 17,049 into the trop to see thier first place team come home tonight!
““Stiff right shoulderâ€
Does anyone have a yankee injury report decoder ring?”
I think we can rule out a burst appendix, but let me try my back-up cipher.
I didn’t hear the stiffness, but if thats the explanation, I’d say that’s as vague as possible.
here we go, this is our chance with arod giambi and nady, as next inning we have two free swingers and a rookie.
Pete’s take:
“UPDATE, 10:39 p.m.: The Yankees announced that Chamberlain has a stiff right shoulder. That could mean just about anything, none of it good. We’ll talk to Girardi later but don’t expect much in the way of information.
It’ll be interesting to see whether they let Chamberlain speak to the media.”
I HATE TEXAS
Everyone needs to relax. Of course the Yankees are concerned but until he has an MRI and the swelling subsides no one will know anything.
And Matt, how bout giving Pudge more than three games before deciding he can’t help us. Of course he’s going to go through an adjustment period as he gets to know the Yanks pitchers. Give him a few weeks at least and then let’s see where he stands.
so i mean there’s always next year right?
“stiff right shoulder” = torn labrum
Arod is cooked.
TheKiid, actually it is the shoulder. More people lose careers threw shoulder injuries than others. Look at Prior and Wood and even Carpenter. They never become the same again and many never come back.
Not sure what a “stiff right shoulder” means but I do know what a ‘stiff drink’ is and how to make a good one – off I go…
“the worst injury for a pitcher is an elbow not s shoulder.”
Shoulder is worse. Elbow can be repaired, people come back from elbow injuries all the time.. it takes a year or so, but you come back. If you tear your rotator cuff that could be your career, it doesn’t heal up the same way
For those unaware John Maine is currently on the DL with a stiff shoulder.
“stiff shoulder” is much better than hearing tear, pop, pulled, etc
So while good news, it’s looks like he’ll miss some time — The Yankees will obviously be very cautious with Joba.
Ugh. This blog is so slow. And its doubleposting me too.
someone on tv allueded to a bicep strain before
If it really is just a stiff shoulder and no structural damage, that’s the best we could have hoped for.
However, I’m leery of trusting the Yankees medical reports until we know why it’s stiff.
stiff shoulder? that means we have seen the last of mr chamberlain in 2008.
Damn! I thought that was going to drop in.
I know I’m a bit late, but I rewinded it and looked to me like the trainer said to Girardi: “He cramped up.” IDK. We probably won’t find out the whole truth until tommorrow anyway…
Curt, I hope that is not true otherwise teh Yanks have had a great season losing everyone from their opening day team.
Honestly, I’m calling that he’ll miss two starts at the most. They might put him on the DL, because they are the Yankees and they do that. But I don’t think it’s serious.
A-Rod hits it hard into an out.
I wish this heat would melt this stadium into a puddle of goo.
“Stiff shoulder, that’s a cramp isn’t it?”
Stiff shoulder is not a diagnosis. That’s just the yankees being non-specific and vague with injury information. It could be anything. That’s an empty statement.
It doesn’t tell us much more than what we knew before hand.
Did Arod start off with an 0-2 count every at-bat tonight?
well cant blame arod there, he hit it hard but no such luck.
Stiff right shoulder is not a cramp. I’m sure he’ll miss a start or two, and maybe a lot more. I don’t think the Yankees would take a risk on Joba when they’re in 3rd place.
“the worst injury for a pitcher is an elbow not s shoulder”
BS. Obviously you don’t know a damn thing about baseball. Why else would the Yankees take guys with elbow injuries and pass on those with shoulder problems? TJS is the answer for many elbow injuries. Shoulder injuries are totally different and much harder to come back from.
So gameday is telling us that “New York Yankees Catcher Francisco Cerevelli left the game due to an injured head/neck”
HUH?
Yanks are going to have to bring up Kennedy and Hughes. They are going to be extra careful with Joba and his “stiff shoulder” most likely it will be a DL and could be alot longer. Depending on what it really is. Yanks will never tell us the real injury and how serious it is.
if joba is hurt, then the yanks might call up avces?
Whatever the injury they will not take any chances with Joba the rest of the year.
Guess we have to root for IPK.
‘Tek came through for us – stranded 2 with a swinging K
He’s becoming my favorite Sawk
without looking at his shoulder, in my experience, when pitchers feel tightness, its usually a tendonitis type thing. In 15 yrs working with athletes, i have never had a pitcher who had a cramp in his shoulder and i worked in florida and midwest heat…
Tendonitis is best case, usually if there is something worse, the pitcher says he feels a burning sensation or a weakness, like what jorge was describing he was feeling.
Alex continues his timely hitting and the 6th inning threat will come back to bite the Yankees
” Honestly, I’m calling that he’ll miss two starts at the most. They might put him on the DL, because they are the Yankees and they do that. But I don’t think it’s serious.”
Did you get your medical degree from the University of Phoenix in between making your stupid posts tonight?
alright now time for xavier to hit another homerun.
CAN WE JUST WAIT UNTIL WE FIND OUT WHAT IT IS???????????
We have a game going on here. All of your speculation is worth nothing because it’s just that!
Whatever it is we’ll deal with it. Life happens. Hope for the best!
X !!!
I lOVE XNADY
i called it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I LOVE ME SOME X!
X-MANNNNNNNNN
X
Man is nady clutch or wat
X-MAN!!!!
God that Xavier is a beast.
Xman!
Okay?
Now watch the freakin game!
WOO HOO!!!
X marks the spot
the X man does it again!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the X MAN.
X
XXXXXXXXXX!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Niiiice!
wow…just wow…. Nady just got LUCKY!!!! Byrd should have had that.
nady is so clutch!!!!!!
1st pitch swinging homer by the X-MAN!!!!!!
I now LOVE this ballpark
HUGE HIT FOR NADY!
This is what we got him for. He adds a lot of depth to the lineup.
X GON GIVE IT TO YA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_TbHl3a8qk
Let’s not get carried away…Joba will be fine.
The Xman is great!!! Sign him to an extension. Why pay Arod the head case $27m when you can pay Nady $3m??!! I love him…He can hit and he is clutch…
The high fastball eats Giambi up EVERY TIME lately.
It will kill me to lose this game tonight, especially after what happened to Joba.
A-Rod=unclutch
hm… wanna party Rebecca?? j/k
The Xman delivers.
Wow…what a blast from Nady…maybe Alex can take some notes from the X-Man
“Did you get your medical degree from the University of Phoenix in between making your stupid posts tonight?”
I’m sorry if my hopeful speculation, though it may be complete BS, is too much optimism for you to handle.
OH NOES! JOBA’S CAREER IS OVER!
That better?
Wow. This texas pen is awful. everything was fat over the plate and begging to get hit. X finally got one.
X Factor.
The only clutch hitter on this team
X GONNA GIVE IT TO YA!
“Stiff right shoulder” in Yankee medical parlance=We don’t want to tell you what’s wrong with him until we take tests.
If he was just “ok”, they would say so. Its a generic term purposely designed not to offer up any info.
Until he has tests, we won’t know the severity of his “stiff shoulder”.
Its not a cramp because if it was one, they would say so.
An elbow injury isn’t the most severe injury to a pitcher. Tommy John Surgery has a success rate of over 80%.
Shoulder surgery has a much less success rate.
NOT SAYING JOBA NEEDS SURGERY. Just commenting on a poster’s comment that an elbow injury is more severe than major shoulder injuries.
Holy crap, the X-Man saved us!
I feel like we just turned a psychic corner and we’re going to win this game and Joba will be ok this year.
I’m going to go walk my dog so I can enjoy that feeling in blissful ignorance.
trisha- why would i take a chill pill, i’m a rays fan, dumbass!!!
Yankee pitching prospects should be allowed to pitch in Arlington anymore, first Hughes now Joba
Move X up to the 5th spot !
bonus: no Mo in a tie game on the road
Praying that we hear “it was nothing, just a precaution” and Joba looks great next start. Please, please, please be ok!
Top of the 9th, Soria in. Still 4-2.
Yankees have to find a way to win this game somehow. They are 15-22 in the first game of a series this year. It needs to turn around.
NADY!!
so do we pinch hit for ivan in the 9th? or do we leave him in there?
Was very bummed out to see that the Yankees couldn’t capitalize on the 2nd & 3rd, nobody out opportunity.
Just got home to see our new favorite Yankee tied it up.
Hopefully we can take advantage.
Heard Joba left the game, what’s the story?
“I’m going to go walk my dog so I can enjoy that feeling in blissful ignorance.”
Too! many! jokes!!!
1. nady’s an animal
2. i don’t want to speak prematurely, but “stiff right shoulder” does not sound good. if joba’s done for the year, the yanks chances don’t look good.
it happens. let’s hope the injury, whatever it really is, isn’t too severe.
SJ44 i think you are right. And players usually dont get cramps in their arms. Cramps happen in big muscles, because the body draws water from them first in order to rehydrate.
We wont hear anything till there is an MRI… hopefully its a tendonitis type thing and nothing else.
Now here’s hoping they paid attention to the 300.
Hold the damn line!
SJ,
Joba is young and strong. Assuming it is nothing severe, he will come back. Problem is, how long can we afford to have him out of the rotation? With the sputtering offense, and shaky starters, he was the pillar of the rotation. That is what i am afraid of.
Max- There is no such thing as a Rays fan.
Most of the people who live in that area are retired or moved northerners who are Yankees/Mets/Sox fans. That leaves the rest, who didn’t care one bit about the Rays until they were actually good for once.
So basically, the only Rays fans are bandwagoners. They draw barely 10-15 k a game when the team isn’t that great and now suddenly have fans? Sorry, there’s no way I can believe that.
Uughh..I really dont like Bruney pitching another inning. His fastball is straight as a string and I can hit a ball out of this ballpark. It might work out but I don’t like it.
Yankee pitching prospects should be allowed to pitch in Arlington anymore, first Hughes now Joba
there seriously something wrong with that statement? troll?
I’m not sure I’d agree that the Yankees would just say Joba was okay; they wouldn’t want to say one thing and find out it was another. Actually, I’m not sure of the last time a guy came out of the game and the official word was that he was fine.
I’m just a poster on a blog. It’s not my fault if you take exception to me hoping aloud.
I honestly think that it isn’t that bad. Joba didn’t look that bad coming out. And he didn’t seem to be pitching in pain the entire inning. Often pitchers try to pitch through pain until the bench notices it and they make a minor injury much worse.
Paging Ian Kennedy… paging Ian Kennedy…
bring marte… i dont like to see bruney more than one inning
thank god for the X factor
Cashman is a genius.
It is soooooo nice to have Bruney back.
I’m a little puzzled that Girardi is letting Bruney pitch another inning. Mo must not be available. Otherwise, why not use Marte or Veras in this instance?
Bruney for a 2nd inning here is a little dangerous on Girardi’s part.
every time they show girardi/eiland i get the sense they are worried about joba
Well, I guess Brian Bruney is back.
Carl Pavano is supposed to be up to 65 pitches in Trenton and Phil Hughes up to 65 in Scranton on Thursday.
Okay, he’s being pulled now. All in all a solid outing, he’s almost back to normal.
Ed – probably just missing a “not”
who has had a better start from a mid-season addition? Glenallen Hill, Tim Raines, David Justice, Shane Spencer or Xavier Nady? Nady is really going for it isn’t he?
One on, one out in kC. Soria doesn’t appear to have his best stuff but hopefully he gets it done.
I know the majority of people here are against Melky, but I will take my chances with him at the plate over Christian in the 8th inning of this game or any game for that matter. Melky has shown flashes over the past couple seasons that he can be a good hitter, he just hasn’t been able to put it together for long stretches of time.
You have got to be kidding me with this
Did anyone see that shirt someone in the stands was wearing – it said “B (boston logo B) is for Bandwagon”…. any idea where they sell those?
I really doubt he needs shoulder surgery. Probably would have been in a lot more pain. Also would not have been able to throw a 96 mph fastball. Also, if you watch the replay, it appears to be a gradual thing as opposed to a sudden one pitch injury. Prior to exiting, he was unusually walking around the mound like he was taking a breather, also flexing his right arm. I tend to think that if it was something requiring surgery, it would have been on one specific pitch that you visibly saw him get hurt on. Hopefully he is OK.
mel
Joba left with a shoulder problem that didn’t look good.
…
Sometimes, I hate this game.
I wouldn’t be too surprised if we didn’t see Joba pitch again this season. This sort of injury is exactly what the Yankees wanted to avoid by limiting his innings. If there is a hint of anything on the MRI they will shut him down until next season, guaranteed. Like a few people have already said, a shoulder injury is the worst injury for a starting pitcher. Severe shoulder injuries are career threatening. Lets hope he didn’t do too much damage to it.
As I’m rambling on Marte is trying his best to give up the game. Come on, get the K then the third out!
Christian is garbage. He misplayed that ball terribly…Also Marte has been awful…
in re: joba…i feel sick…
“every time they show girardi/eiland i get the sense they are worried about joba”
I don’t know. Yankee managers and coaches always look like someone shot their dog. Even Torre did, when he wasn’t snoozing on the bench.
And that, ladies and gents, is why Justin Christian is not the solution in center. The guy’s a converted infielder.
Marte threw a fat one there.
Damn You MARTE !
Not good….
One thing I’ve seen with Marte is that he misses his spot ALOT.
Granted, he’s a lefty with a good arm, but he seems to rely on his velocity alot.
need a strike out here
Buck Showalter is one of the best commentators on Baseball Tonight. He also brings a level of dignity to the show that is not always sustained by some of his colleagues. Plus he’s one of the people responsible for the 1996-2001 Yankees, so gotta love him for that.
SJ44: You know you’ve arrived when people start pretending to be you. And Joba is definitely must-see TV and already a fan fave. He’s a special, special talent and human being, and as much as we already appreciate him, if he had come up on another team we’d be wondering why we can’t get someone like that.
And snakebit is an apt way to describe this team when it comes to injuries, not only this season, but for the past two years as well. I don’t know if the Yankees have been hit more than other teams or not, but it does seem like an awful lot and it doesn’t seem to let up. I’d be surprised if they don’t bring back Andy and Moose after what happened this year. You can never have too much good pitching.
Soria is now scaring me
Marte come on.
nevermind, Google worked better then I thought:
http://www.cafepress.com/malsdad
ONE MORE OUT MARTE
Cashman may not be good at all things but the one thing he succeeds in is getting the job done by July 31st. Nady, Marte, and Pudge for nobody except our worst best prospect Tabata.
I’m not going to read too much into this….He pointed to the front section of his arm/ shoulder….I don’t believe it’s going to be a major setback..Very precautionery…..Ice to reduce any more inflamation, MRI in the AM, perscribe some anti-infamatories….Naproxen will work….He’ll make his next start……I doing the Trisha power of postive thinking…..I do think it’s not serious….
WAY TO MAN UP DAMASO now get that third out
big K there
at least, MArte K’d Davis.
“who has had a better start from a mid-season addition? Glenallen Hill, Tim Raines, David Justice, Shane Spencer or Xavier Nady? Nady is really going for it isn’t he?”
None of the above. I’d name the guy I’m thinking of, but it would make people sad …
HUGE K!!!!!!!
OH GOD SALTY
is this game a freaking joke!
Ron, I sure hope youre right. I noticed Torre’s usual snoozing on the bench, but Girardi’s facial expressions have been different since Joba was pulled. I am probably over-analyzing.
Think we can give them Marte back for Ross Ohlendorf? I think I’d rather see Ross out there right now.
A .167 righty here…COME ON
Didn’t Joba have tendinitis in his right arm in college? Could be the same injury.
Melky is a major leaguer because of his defense. Girardi bring him in now!!
This is all speculation right now, and sort of pointless. Here’s my 2 cents anyway. Joba was pointing to his biceps tendon. He may have a biceps strain or tedonitis. That would fit with “tightness”, and is a minor injury. Let’s pray, as that would mean just missing one or two starts.
On a positive note, I’m really taking a liking to this Nady character. Let’s hope he doesn’t catch whatever the rest of the team contracted in April.
Did I mention that I don’t think I’ll sleep tonight?
How about the little Sheffield thing Salty does? When did that happen?
“I know the majority of people here are against Melky, but I will take my chances with him at the plate over Christian in the 8th inning of this game or any game for that matter.”
I am totally with Melky and figured the play in the outfield would have been different had he been in. But now we just hope Marte picks the guys up.
Somewhere, Darrell Rasner is smiling thinking to himself…”and they thought they were gonna take my starts away”
I don’t want to speculate but Joba did not look good in that inning. Blame Pudge or the umpires or whoever, it doesn’t matter.
Joba just needs to be okay. That’s all I care about. If he isn’t our playoff chances are greatly diminished anyway. Not only getting there but being successful without our top of the line starter.
ONE MORE STRIKE
Theres the gas, blew a 95 MPH fastball right by Salty. Lets see another one.
2 on, 1 out, Ortiz up.
Marte looks like he overthrows a bit…
“Didn’t Joba have tendinitis in his right arm in college? Could be the same injury.”
That was his forearm.
Ortiz ground out. 2 down. Pukeface up.
I LOVE YA DAMASO !
HOUDINI!
Wow good job by Marte. Now its time for a run and a save.
Think we see a pinch-hitter for JC?
PHEW!!!!!!
Nady and Marte looking like a better deal every day.
Marte got lucky with that one. That last pitch was right down the middle. He missed his location by a lot. Please no Mo in the 9th….
Bring back Melky…please
Christian is a great pinch runner-type
JFC. My heart can’t take any more.
Hah KC is intentionally walking Youk to get to Bay.
They walked Pukeface and will pitch to the hero Jason Bay.
Bay with the game on the line. 2nd and 3rd, two out.
Melky wouldve not allowed that guy to go to 3rd on that play.. those shirts are GREAT no sox fans around prior to 04. You can prolly find them outside a mall with a guy selling then out of an old wagon.
“That was his forearm.”
It wasn’t his forearm. Joba had triceps tendinitis in college. The tricpes in the back of the arm so whatever happened tonight it isn’t the same issue. BTW the triceps isn’t a muscle that absorbs a lot of the load when you throw a ball. Triceps tendinitis is not that serious.
Once Ponson fails once again, Kennedy is coming up because if Joba misses a few starts, they can’t deal with the inconsistencies of Ponson and will have to hope for some improvement back to last year with Kennedy. I think Kennedy will be better this time.
Joe better not bring Rivera in unless we score some runs this inning.
Time to tap around Everyday Eddie
These last 2 games have taken atleast 10+ years off my life
And here is the problem with switching the long reliever and #5 starter in the middle of the week….an arm is not available.
The shoulder is not the bicep however.
The problem is that Joba’s injury could be soreness or tendonitis or something minor and the Yankees, worried about the future, could shut him down for the rest of the year regardless.
I hope if they decide as much Cashman re-considers his previous opposition to trying to acquire Burnett. He’d get through waivers. i just don’t know whether that low life Riccardi would trade him within the division.
if ivan gets on jc is bunting if not probably a ph
Sexson to pinch hit for Christian?
come on Pudge start something !
They walk Youkilis to get to Bay.
And Boston thinks he’s a suitable replacement?
Collision in the field, run in. Sux down one, Sean Casey up.
COME ON SORIA!
Royals infielders crash into each other? What the hell?
Wow, Soria gives up a run and is still in trouble…
If I was a Ranger fan or Rockie fan I’d wonder, how do you not have domes? There is no way pitching staffs could sustain these conditions.
GOD DAMN KC
KC looking to give the game away, one more strike
no closer with a tie on the road
at least Bay only got 1 run in…
YES!
SORIA ROCKS!!!
Game.
Royals win~
wow, scary end, but Boston loses.
YES KC won
sox lose! gotta win tonight!!
bosux lose !
Cone was a cheater! lol
Send up The Big Sexy
Good news: We can’t lose ground tonight.
Casey lines out. Game over.
F****N LF WIND
Sexy time.
Sexson is due for a bomb
KC defeats Sox 4-3.
KC holds on.
Laura must have lost power. Hope she’s okay.
If one had a dirty mind they could construe many of David Cone’s descriptions as naughty double entendres.
Oh and a “tacky” tally update………..5
Sox Lose!
This would be a great day to win with the Rays and Boston losing.
Sexson can’t hit any kind of outside pitch. It’s amazing how badly he’s declined.
yankees win, bosux & rays lose….joba is ok !!!
I don’t understand how Sexson misses so much. It amazes me.
I stopped reading any post that had either the word “Joba” or “shoulder” in it.
You can fly through the posts that way!
I figured we would definitely get to Fast Eddy.
Nice AB Richie
well that was good for nothing.
sexson is…..not good.
That was so not sexy
How bad is Sexson?
r u f… kidding me sexson
wow Sexson truly sucks. His career has to be done.
Well that was expected. I should of bet on that strike out.
please let the Yanks win this
Come on Jetes
here we go time for jeter to get an rbi single.
COME ON JETES ! IT’S THERE FOR YOU !
dvaB, what do you mean joba is ok?
come on captain!!!!!!!!!
I think I might have actually preferred to see Melky hit.
That’s how little confidence I have in the Sexton.
That’s how little confidence I have in DJ this year.
dvaB, what do you mean joba is ok?
it’s going to be awfully tough to enjoy this game – no matter what the outcome – knowing joba could well be lost.
and it’ll be tough to enjoy the rest of the season if he gets shut down. i really looked forward to watching the kid pitch. he’d been great.
what a drag.
Can Jeter get a big hit…this year…please.
Jete’s gonna drive ‘em in.
atta boy johnny
atta boy johnny
Come on Jeter…
Jeter….try swinging at the good pitches and letting the JUNK GO ! DAMN ! ;-(
The gapping holes in Sexton’s swing have become Canyon sized……I was hoping for a Dave Kingman performance from him, he’s cooked I think….
captain clutch or captain crunch
look at Guardados hat he has some brown crap on the brim and touches it all the time
Just a poke down the first base line will due just fine….DO IT.
Sry about the double post.
who’s warming for the Yankees?
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crap!
Josh Hamilton is your MVP…damnit
not fair.
Wow.
He is some player.
Standard
That guy can do everything.
…………..
Mo in a tie game?
Fingernail time!
god I frikken hate this guy
I HATE THIS MISERABLE GAME!!!!!
…Ugh. Still don’t feel better.
That was a really good at-bat by Jetes, too bad it didn’t fall in.
That’s a hell of a catch. Wish he didn’t make it but that was a hell of a catch.
captain crunch
Oh too bad there was two outs.
This team is really snakebit. Between that catch, the injuries, its so tough for these guys to win games. Unbelievable play by Hamilton.
yanks better be careful. all the momentum just went to texas.
son of a…. MOTHER ! ;-(
Capt Crunch comes through again… Abreu,Nady,Pudge, long-shot CAno #2 please some1 esle has to agree. I am tired of watching games not seeing Damon or Jeter get on til the 5 inning or later
Maybe the 120 degrees makes the ball stay up longer. I never thought the ball would stay up long enough so he can catch that…
I was just checking up on Gameday and it showed the little a under Christian for Sexson and then it read, “Struck out for Christian in the 9th” Sounded funny because it seemed liked I thnk Christian could have done that all by himself. He is a big boy that used to play the infield, then switched to the outfield and is learning how to catch.
Argh!!!
“Laura must have lost power. Hope she’s okay.”
Thanks, Angel. Actually, just my cable and internet went out. Just got it back now. Glad to see that my fantasy boyfriend the X-Man tied it up.
Well, the good news: we know Girardi hasn’t pegged Marte with the dreaded LOOGY label based on his usage tonight.
Bad news: I’m not sure I trust him in this spot.
come on Damaso !
Bill Paxton is on a barren planet somewhere going absolutely nuts right now.
By the reaction of the announcers and crowd I thought Texas was WS champs. Can’t believe I defended them earlier.
A leadoff walk. This guy has been watching Farnsworth too much.
Marte barely got out of the 8th inning and he is pitching again??!!! Don’t like the move….Where is Veras??!!
leadoff walk. Game over
and that was not the thing to do, walk the lead geoff guy getting ahead 0-2. why do pitchers lose the strike zone after 0-2.
YAY! Melky in his natural place.
GO YANKEES!
Think I’ll watch the rest of this game offline. Night all.
This is the stupid pitching that loses games. 0-2 count on the guy and he swung and missed on 2 sliders, and what do you do? You bounce 3 straight and walk him. Brilliant. Why not try to lock him up with a fastball inside? At least make a guy who’s HURT swing the bat to get on base.
This is the stupid pitching that loses games. 0-2 count on the guy and he swung and missed on 2 sliders, and what do you do? You bounce 3 straight and walk him. Brilliant. Why not try to lock him up with a fastball inside? At least make a guy who’s HURT swing the bat to get on base.
Hey, guys, MLB.COM is reporting that Joba hurt his shoulder when he fell to the ground to avoid Pudge’s throw.
I would take some solace in that. How badly could he have injured his shoulder in that case?
Leadoff walks never end up good.
abreu arod n giambi in the 10th.. looks good
game set match they r playing small ball and it will get us like a snake bit
Sorry, double post. The site seems a little messed up tonight.
ohh boy im getting fshbacks of muclouth
Veras will most likely close.
“Hey, guys, MLB.COM is reporting that Joba hurt his shoulder when he fell to the ground to avoid Pudge’s throw.
I would take some solace in that. How badly could he have injured his shoulder in that case?”
Actually, very badly. That’s why they hate it when pitchers dive for popped-up bunts.
That was strike 3
where was that? are you kidding me that has to be the worst call in this game
I wonder if that’s what hurt Joba’s shoulder ?
OH COME ON !
Joba banged his arm on the ground..I wonder if that had anything to do with the injury?!!
That pitch to Marte was a PERFECT strike on the outside corner. These umps are so awful.
Luis, you gotta pray to get the 10th
This Kinsler guy is very dangerous.
Brandon, Im fairly sure it was a joke.
MO would close but we lost it here
well there we go.
All the little calls add up, even if people want to deny it and make excuses like “the umpires don’t matter.” They definitely do.
The missed call in the 5th caused Joba to unravel. It cost him a huge out and made him throw extra pitches in the process. In that heat, it definitely affects you.
And in the 9th, he had Kinsler struck out, called a ball. Again, he has to throw extra pitches. He struck him out 3 or 4 pitches later but again, in this heat, those extra pitches take a lot more out of you. Hopefully it doesn’t cost us.
Well, it figures. Anything that happens to the Yanks negatively, pulls in the idiots, whiners and trolls.
Joba might have just gotten a bruise if it is cause he fell on it. Sometimes when you hit something it just stiffens for awhile and bruises. That is not too bad and at the worst he misses a start.
I’m surprised that they are playing at Wrigley. That outfield is got to be like a pool.
I thought Rivera was available, why would Veras close? Unless Girardi is playing it extra-safe with him, which is probably smart considering he trusts his other guys so much.
If Joba hurt his shoulder on that, he was very foolish risking staying in the game.
PJH watching Joba fall there it looked like that’s what hurt his shoulder because he was throwing fine.
Veras has thrown 2 of the last 3 days and threw over 50 total pitches. I doubt he is available.
Marte is the freshest arm and the right call. Hopefully, he can get through this inning. Either way, he should be the guy out there right now.
Girardi get Marte out of the game. He has zero location…
whta does the BP have left after this in this heat???
manny to the yankees??? could have happend
http://www.mlbtraderumors.com/.....plore.html
Oh Marte your killing me here lose the Billy Wagner thing you got going !!!!
pudge looks a bit behind when catching the pitchers. he has gotten crossed up alot in this game here.
That was really stupid what Joba did. He hit the ground like he was dodging bullets to save his life. Move your arms towards your face and if the ball hits you it hits you…
What is it with the lack of control from the pitchers tonight?
Become a Yankee, forget how to pitch. Awesome.
Marte is our Gagne.
So far, Nady has been a better acquisition than Marte.
The outside corner is apparently no longer over the plate. Perhaps there is dirt on it?
This is worst HP umpire job I’ve seen this year. Not only bad ball/strike calls, but a horrific job of handling the Kinsler play.
Those extra pitches to Kinsler could have affected him. The non calls add up over the course of a game.
This game might as well be done.
Love the “let’s go Yankees” chant at Arlington.
Well one thing I’m willing to guess is that Joba’s shoulder isn’t catastrophically damaged. I have career-ending stuff in the shoulder (even though I never actually had the career) and the spot they were pointing to / touching on his shoulder wasn’t the exact same spot. Of course it a concern and his arm was hanging off his side like it was dead, but I’m thinking (hoping) what I felt in the rotator cuff is higher & more forward than that spot. Not to dismiss it of course … it’s definitely possible and I am definitely worried.
Whether it’s something that will pass if he sits out a start or two or something really bad, one thing’s for sure: Kevin Youkilis and his mom are both going to be very happy if Joba misses any games against the Red Sox … Kevin because he won’t need his diaper changed after facing Joba, and his mom because she doesn’t have to change it for him.
Geez, what a night. If you’re at all invested in this team, as the vast majority of us are, this season has been absolutely killer. It’s not even just bad execution and lack of talent, it’s bad luck, injuries to the most key players imaginable, the last ones you’d want injured.
I don’t even know what to say about it anymore. It seems like everything that could go wrong, has.
Geise is starting on friday… do some f – ing homework!!!!
This would be a Girardi loss just like yesterdays game would of been. Yesterday for leaving Ramirez out there…Today for leaving Marte out there to dry. No reason to try and get 2 innings out of him when he has nothing right now.
Robertson is still available and so hopefully that is all we need. If this game goes on into extras like more than 12 innings, we are in trouble but with this ballpark, someone is bound to do something.
I think we’ll survive Joba being out. Giese and Kennedy can do it.
Do we get to see Robertson now?
Here it comes . . . walks kill . . .
Maybe next year during interleague play, Joe G should order the pitchers to take three strikes when they come to the plate no matter what the score is. Better to lose a game than lose a pitcher for the season. If the Yankees beat the AL teams they’re supposed to beat (if there are any left), they can take their chances with the National League without having to rely on at-bats by their pitchers.
Marte is at 33 pitches in this heat and with Young and Hamilton up, not good
I can see the headlines…(hopefully not)
“Xaviar Nady tied the ball game with an HR but it was for naught as his former Pirate teammate Damaso Marte gave up the winning run in the bottom of the 9th,,,”
marte seems to be over throwing today.
Breathe bi*** breathe !!!
They have 9 staight tough road games still, weak starters coming up, this sucks. Marte has to stay in. Need the BP.
Okay, Hamilton. This is why we got Marte.
And the worst possible person to face in the entire league right now
give hamilton nothing good
Marte please don’t over throw here !
LOOGY is all we need now, Damaso.
just 1 more out… come on marte
This is why I hate road games. The home team always has a chance to win it in the 9th.
I know this is the wrong time but check this out later – Prince Fielder went nuts in the dugout… too bad Youkilis wasn’t in there:
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....=280804117
Joba is going to be fine…..
Ease up on Marte. He can still work out of this. Aside from the one bad outing against Baltimore, he’s been fine.
Our Gagne? Gagne ruined every game he was brought into.
This is one hell of match up.
Wow no swing? Wow. That was clearly an “INTENT” kind of swing.
Where is this strike zone?
Just give him the slider if he walks who cares…rather face Marlon Byrd
Two pitches that could have been strikes.
People the BP is getting stretched really thin!!!! Mo has spasms. Stop calling for relievers, 3 more 100 degree days in Texas and so on, with Ponson and Guise starting
This is like watching Farnsworth pitch.
Marte is getting screwed. What a BS squeeze job.
The umpires want us to lose this game tonight. What else can explain so many horrible calls from every umpire on the field?
slow it down DAMASO !
Veras, hello!
Marte walks in the winning run.
:shake:
Well that was disappointing.
Great managing Girardi, you just cost us the damn game. TB and Boston lose, and he goes ahead and does the same.
Sickening
Holy Cow lol good job manager
This umpire has no idea where the zone is. He calls strike two too late and then calls ball four strike two.
Get. Him. Out.
Marte has outings like this.
I’m not sure what the right move is here.
Not that it matters.
I hope this stadium burns down tomorrow morning.
F%$%@
Marte’s thrown like 40 pitches, WTF
just like yesterday! leaving marte in wayyyyy too long like he did with edwar yesterday
Perfect way to end the night.
Marte is Gagne.
Get Robertson out there.
sonofa
damn this stadium…. damn this umpiring crew… and damn the Marte part of that trade
Wow good one clueless Joe, that’s another blown game because of managing.
you gotta be kidding me!!!!!!!
wow…this really hurts
Is Joe waiting for another grand slam? Oh, never mind, there it is.
Yikes.
and we end possibly the worst game of the year. although it seems like a bad movie that has been playing all year.
I HATE MLB UMPIRES WITH THE PASSION OF A THOUSAND FLAMING SUNS. HATE HATE HATE HATE THEM. ROT IN HELL YOU BA$TARDS.
fudge
Why, Girardi?
Why leave him in?
THIS IS ALL ON THE UMPIRES.
THIS GAME IS OVER IF NOT FOR THE UMPIRES.
THE BS CALL COST US JOBA AND THE GAME, AND MARTE GOT SQUEEZED AND SHOULD HAVE HAD HAMILTON STRUCK OUT THREE TIMES OVER.
This is the type of loss that is CRUSHING, CRUSHING, CRUSHING in a pennant race, ESPECIALLY with Joba hurt. Losing this game with both teams ahead of you losing is a death sentence, especially when the teams ahead of you NEVER lose.
We would have won this game if not for the umpires. Unbelievable. Hard to beat the heat, the umpires, and the other team. We got screwed. If I were the Yankees, I’d boycott tomorrow’s game unless they change the umpiring crew.
I think the Yanks need to make a temporary roster move and bring a fresh arm for tomorrow and then send him back down so that someone like Ramirez or Bruney get a day of rest adn the bullpen isn’t too thin for tomorrow.
Can’t say I’m surprised. He was sucking the whole inning.
So I can take walking the dog off my list of good things to do in a tied road game. Good to know.
Oh, my lord. What a horrible loss. It’s only 1 game, but what a way to lose the game and Joba.
Hope the team can shake it off and come back strong.
start ur blamming, Whos it gonna be 2nite,. CANO, MELKY,PUDGE or you gonnna bring some1 new into it
start ur blamming, Whos it gonna be 2nite,. CANO, MELKY,PUDGE or you gonnna bring some1 new into it
I don’t get why he was in there that long. After 3 walks, you knew he was going to lay one in to find the strike zone. I question Girardi there. Not a good loss.
This is just not our year…again.
Well good night all – let’s hope for good Joba news and tons of wins to come – this one hurts
joba go bye bye – grand slam in ya face disgrace!
This was the worst night of the year.
@#$@!!@$@#%%$#@@.
That’s all.
before both ken and dave could say otherwise I am saying the the yanks should bring in david robinson could have been a win in xtra innning. u have the pitchers use them team is fight at least 4or 5 team for the wildcard can’t give away anymore games like these
Well at least that’s over with. Always better to lose in nine than to go to extra innings, burn out the bullpen, and then lose anyway. They are really paying the price for not beating up on the likes of Baltimore and Cincinnati.
Two damn days in a row Girardi couldn’t tell his pitcher was gassed. What kind of a catcher was he? I’m screaming at the screen!
“We would have won this game if not for the umpires. Unbelievable. Hard to beat the heat, the umpires, and the other team. We got screwed. If I were the Yankees, I’d boycott tomorrow’s game unless they change the umpiring crew.”
Hahaha. WAhhhh wahhh wahhhh.
Like no one expected that to happen??!! I called it from the beginning of the inning. Marte had NOTHING..Once again Girardi’s awful managing costs them. Leaves in Ramirez when he had nothing…grand slam…Marte had nothing…grand slam..Great job Giardi!!! Marte has been awful and Girardi obviously doesn’t know when to take a pitcher out. This ballpark is an absolute joke. I can hit home runs in there. Especially if Byrds ball went flying out of there and he is awful.
Robertson hasn’t pitched in 5 days. Looks like he may have fallen out of favor.
The Gagne comparison’s might be way too true.
….to quote Gloria Estefan, “there’s always tomorrow.”
that was just like, not only getting stabbed in the heart, but being peed on while they watch you die. ugh.
to all of you who wouldn’t shut up about acquiring Damaso Marte who now want to send him back: the rest of us noticed.
let’s see what Girardi has to say about Joba, and then it’s bedtime.
Honestly, do any of you trust Robertson with the bases loaded more than you’d trust Marte?
Veras would have been ideal, but I’m guessing Girardi was giving him a day off.
i dont really see why mlb does not do something about these bad calls. Instant replay is a must and i dont see why they dont have it in place. so what if the game takes a few minutes longer, the texas pitcher today took an hour and half between pitches and he was not penalzied for it. isnt the rule if you take more than 30 seconds you get an automatic ball?
Well, I guess my only consolation is that I don’t really care about this season anymore.
“joba go bye bye”
Enjoying a player being hurt and his career in jeopardy? A young kid, no less? Do you realize that you are lower than scum?
leaves him in 2 face righty wen he ovibously lost strike zone 42 pitches 2 innings puts 3 runners on like edwar leaves him in de ja vu
Some people here need to use common sense David Robertson is a 23 yr. old rookie, There is no way if your Girardi that you put him to pitch in that spot…ABSOLUTELY NO WAY. Some of you need to place blame where it belongs the offense again not coming through and Damaso decided to play the part of Billy Wagner tonight
Seriously, Joe Girardi is worse at managing a bullpen than Joe Torre.
Sorry but Girardi cannot effectively manage. He can manage any team but not effectively.
This is 2 days in a row that he has made terrible decisions on when to pull a pitcher.
total crap and unacceptable.
What a loss, hope the guys can shake it off and come back strong.
5 of the 9 runs scored were walks. Not good at all. WTF happened in that last inning? Was no one warming up? Was Marte squeezed or did he have nothing?
That is the most depressing thing I’ve seen all year.
MARLON BYRD!
Are you KIDDING!?!?!?
Marte was hung up to dry. Damnit Joe. DAMN YOU GIRARDI.
Don’t we have starters willing to throw their bullpen session against live competition? Why don’t any of them man up like Pettitte did last year?
There was no reason to not use Robertson. I’m so angry with Joe lately… I have supported him for so long, but lately… I want to reach into the television (in this case, laptop) and strangle him.
the rule is 12 seconds in between pitches. im very sure that rule was violated each time texas pitched today
Back to back games, Girardi was like a moron. you know as a fan, not a professional, I knew it was time to replace the pitchers. It was just luck that we won yesterday.
Why the F is Marte left out there to throw 42 pitches?
The season is over.
With Joba we are out by 6 games.
sadness and disappointment
That is all
I think it’s time to use Marte ONLY against lefties.
Let Bruney, Veras, Edwar, etc. be the setup men, depending on who is throwing the best, right now that would be Veras.
“Seriously, Joe Girardi is worse at managing a bullpen than Joe Torre.
Sorry but Girardi cannot effectively manage. He can manage any team but not effectively.
This is 2 days in a row that he has made terrible decisions on when to pull a pitcher.
total crap and unacceptable.”
uh, so who do you put in in that situation? his bullpen was spent and let’s assume rivera is unavailable.
Veras needs to be in that situation. Don’t give him a day off.
Robertson, while a rookie, cannot be on this team unless he can pitch in any situation. He has plenty of innings under his belt.
You cannot stick with Marte. Cannot.
Twice in 2 days Girardi did this and got burned with a Grand Slam. TWICE IN 2 DAYS!
He cost us another game tonight. I wish George were healthy he’d fire the bum or at least voice his outrage. Now we have to listen to “these things happen.” F that. Fire Girardi.
So Chamberlain is outpitched by Padilla and has a sore shoulder which could mean DL time, Mo is being nursed, Marte walks the bases loaded, and the Yanks lose an opportunity to gain any ground. All in a day in the life of a Yankee fan, how depressing. This team lately has never failed to let me down.
exremely, extremely frustrating. how often do tampa and boston both lose on the same day this year? big opportunity goes to waste because marte was left in way, way too long.
and joba may be hurt.
awesome.
What happened to this bullpen?
Maybe trading Farnsworth wasn’t the best idea.
“Seriously, Joe Girardi is worse at managing a bullpen than Joe Torre.”
You can be mad tonight all you want… but if Girardi has anything on anyone, it’s bullpen management, it’s by far his strongest attribute
The season is not over.
BASESLOADED IN MLB FOR A 23 YEAR OLD ROOKIE ?, REALLY ARE YOU PEOPLE THIS STUPID !!!
Not really buying that Marte was squeezed. He was a little wild and when you’re wild, you don’t tend to get the close ones.
“Some people here need to use common sense David Robertson is a 23 yr. old rookie, There is no way if your Girardi that you put him to pitch in that spot…”
Exactly. Ron Washington did that to one of his rookies against us and we beat the poor kid to a pulp. I’m not sure what other BP option Joe had, but Robertson wasn’t it.
Yankees lose , because Girardi. He needs to change.
the yankees still have a chance, but its games like this when your ace picther goes down, when you have bad calls that championship caliber teams rise through and win.
If it isn’t bad pitching, it’s bad hitting, or bad base running, or you name it. Fact is, Yankees are no good this year and hopefully in transition to become a contender in ’09. For now, let’s build a good roster for next year, ditch the dead weight and look ahead. This year will be no Yanks in post-season, accept it.
Marte was out of gas, you could tell. Maybe putting Robertson in their with the bases loaded is a bad idea, but what good could have come from leaving a tired reliever out there? With all those walks? Come on, the warning signs were there, it was a stupid move to keep him in.
worst loss of the year, worse than the hawkins game in baltimore.
You put in RObertson, who was warming – if Girardi wasn’t going to use Robertson, why even have him up? Totally stupid.
JOE GIRARDI needs to go somewhere any where. I hope cash calls him up like Omar did with WILLIE.. Another thing I am sick and tired of Damnon and Jeter not getting on base early in games or 2gether. Damon finally gets on in the 5th and Jeter in the 3rd however Damonm K before Jeter. Lets all get on AROD and at times I feel his trying to crush it. Look though the guy is leading off innings, or hitting with 2 outs and with Giambi behind him they are jamming him big time. Horrible line-up right now. Marte in for way to long, Joe thats 2 games in a row with a reliever. make senses yet??? WE NEEDED this win and Joe didnt manage it like we did
This is all on Girardi he tried to make Marte something he is not in that situation… Marte has never been a pitcher who comes out for more then one inning sometimes not even a full IP…. Girardi is definitly to blame here… And I Like Joe a lot and thought he has done a tremendous job, but not here…
Marte is a one inning pitcher. That’s it.
Marte has only had 3 two inning appearances all season.
The highest number of pitches he’s thrown in any appearance up to tonight was 38. Tonight he threw 42.
Very tough to ask him to throw two innings when he’s not used to it and its 100 degrees out.
you guys comparing Marte to Gagne are idiots. Seriously. Say what you will but Marte overall did his job. He had a solid 8th inning..and got 2 very big outs in the 9th by way of Kinsler and Young….its unfair for him to have to throw upwards of 50 pitches. Totally unfair.
You put in RObertson, who was warming – if Girardi wasn’t going to use Robertson, why even have him up? Totally stupid.
BECAUSE HE’S GETTING WARMED UP FOR THE NEXT INNING MORON !
This is hardly Girardi’s fault. Texas was going to be given this win whether we wanted to win or not. The umpires were disgraceful.
Marte got squeezed on Kinsler. He had him struck out and had to throw 4 more high stress pitches to do it. He was CLEARLY not the same after that at bat and lost the strike zone.
Then the call in the 5th, that was beyond awful. That cost us an out, possibly our starter, and definitely the game. There is no way that inning develops the way it does if you take out that play. The momentum is NON EXISTENT for Texas if you take that out.
Marte did all he could to win this game ,and the umpires stole it from him. Hamilton swung at the 1-1, he would have been struck out. The extra pitches certainly cost him- he threw almost FORTY pitches tonight.
No excuses for missing calls as blatant as these. The umpiring definitely affects the games if the calls are as significant as these. And with no repurcussions for this stolen win, there is no solace one bit in any of tonight. We got robbed, and they won’t even be punished one bit for it!
I was more worried about Hamilton than Byrd. I thought that if he was going to get out anybody, it would be Marlon Byrd.
Let me also add that I would have been no more comfortable with Farnsworth pitching there than Marte, hot streak or not.
Girardi wants his pitchers to succeed. Unlike Torre, he gives guys a chance to clean up their own mess. A lot of the times it works. Sometimes it doesn’t. Unfortunately, the bad outcome has happened twice in a row.
Fortunately, Joe Girardi will be managing the Yankees long after you trolling clowns have gone.
A little bit squeezed at times, but he looked like he was running out of gas on the last few pitches. Girardi had no choice but to leave him in there though – no way he sends David Robertson into that situation.
“Seriously, Joe Girardi is worse at managing a bullpen than Joe Torre.”
Torre’s bullpen management was just about the worst in baseball. That’s even considering that all those 4-out and 5-out Mariano saves so often made him look like a genius.
atleast i have the memories of the 1990′s to wash away this bad taste left in my mouth for the past 8 years
“BASESLOADED IN MLB FOR A 23 YEAR OLD ROOKIE ?, REALLY ARE YOU PEOPLE THIS STUPID !!!”
He couldn’t have been any worse than Marte tonight. If he can’t pitch in that situation all he’s doing is taking up a roster spot.
All you “fans” don’t have to watch these games.
Goodnight all.
I dont understand. They wanted Ian Kennedy to pitch well and he has and girardi says he still has some more work to do? Do they not want him there? Giese is great but I still think IPK should get another try at least.
Stop with the replay crap! Yeah we got hosed. But it works both ways. We get lucky calls sometimes too. Would you have liked replay in ’96??? Tarasco anyone?? I hate the umpires, but it is part of the game. Texas fans are still probably arguing the balks. I hate the GS, but how bad would it be if they lost in 13 and killed the BP.
willie should be the new manager our team members would like him better wouldnt have 2 deal with dante or w.e can have ice cream can actually win some games idk about any other yankee fans…but i love willie way more than joe garardi
why does Girardi have Robertson warming up if he’s not going to bring him in to Byrd? one way or the other, the inning’s over after that. is he trying to tire Robertson out for the 10th inning.
i’ve liked Girardi, but these pitching decisions make me wonder. i’m sure most observers perceived that Marte was gassed.
how are the yankees going to make it through the next 9 games with the bullpen worn out and no mo, no geise?
Girardi is a horrible manager. I thought since he was a catcher he was supposed to know how to read a pitcher??!! I guess not…It seems like for some odd reason yesterday and today Girardi was “trying” to get the pitcher threw the inning. Note to Girardi when the pitcher has nothing you take him out you don’t try to get them threw it when your own eyes are showing that the pitcher is done. Girardi has to stop pitching Marte in the late innings until he proves that he can get people out.
Boston made the same mistake with Gagne. They traded for him and automatically put him into the 7th inning role until they had to take him out. Don’t go by Marte’s numbers in Pitts. Go by his numbers with the Yanks. Who knows maybe he will be great from now on or he could be another one of those 1 million pitchers who cant pitch in NY. It wouldn’t surprise me if he couldn’t pitch here.
It’s like Girardi didn’t even watch yesterday’s game because the exact same thing just happened.
Its a god dman line-up for only once so it shouldve be a big deal to move guys around and the players need to swallow nope not their pride but swallow your EGOS and all that $$$$$$$$$$.. Try Damon,Abreu,AROD,NADY,Giambi,CANO,PUDGE,MELKY
JETER,PUDGE,ABREU,AROD,NADY,GIAMBI,CANO,MELKY
or anyother compo. CAno @ 2 IDK rip this team apart in a meeting any1 Girardi, TOny Pena, PUDGE, DJ,AROD, DAmon, ANY get into this team hard like
Singleton kept on saying Marte is a veteran. Veteran or not you walk the bases loaded your get yanked. You walk the bases loaded obviously you are not locating your pitches. Veteran or not, that is a VERY questionable move Girardi didn’t make. Ouch, this one hurts huge! Joba pitching, off to a 3-0 lead, coming back only to have that happen. Par for the course with the 2008 Yankees though.
btw on a better note, how about alberto gonzalez, he is on fire down in dc batting .462. hope he has a great carrer
“He couldn’t have been any worse than Marte tonight. If he can’t pitch in that situation all he’s doing is taking up a roster spot.”
And if Marte gets a few close calls his way, has a favorable count, and ends up with a strikeout, he suddenly looks like the best reliever after Mariano.
He gives up a GS, Girardi’s a moron.
Veras is no Mariano, and frankly he may scare me in a big spot more than anyone in our bullpen.
One of those balks was VERY blatant, and how do you know Damon doesn’t steal 2nd any way if the first one isn’t called? That was worth ONE run. The other calls were worth SEVEN.
And stop with the nonsense of “well 1996…” Give me a freaking break. I’d rather them get it right than screw it up. And that call meant nothing in the series. We dominated the Orioles every game in that series besides game 1. If that call isn’t made, it doesn’t affect the outcome of the series.
However, blown calls like tonight DO affect games, and possibly which teams are in the post season. Can you honestly tell me with a straight face that you would be fine with umpires DECIDING WHICH TEAMS MAKE THE POST SEASON? Does that sound FAIR to you?
He couldn’t have been any worse than Marte tonight. If he can’t pitch in that situation all he’s doing is taking up a roster spot.
What the hell ? Do you even know what your thinking about ! Robertson is a ML reliever he’s 23 and a rookie, he’s a good reliever but your not putting him w/ basesloaded right that is too much pressure to break a 23 yr. old kid w/ a promising future.
“Texas fans are still probably arguing the balks.”
Except that Padilla really bought those balk calls on himself, with his spending half an hour on the mound between pitchers. If he’d have just thrown the ball, the umpires wouldn’t have had as much time to notice “flinches”.
I’m outta here.
Marte was tired,but Girardi didn’t see.
Molina is very great,but Girardi didn’t see really.
So far,I couldn’t see I-Rod is better than Molina.
The season is over.
Marte had nothing left.
*pitches
Coach Jay, are you speaking Chinesse?
Lots of things went wrong tonight. Joba lost command in 4th and 5th. Ump made terrible call on reversing the dp. At worst, he could have called Kinsler out if he felt that ball hit him. He was out of the box. That killed us.
We did not get big innnings. We hit 3 solo blasts on 10 hits and 1 walk. One of our runs was on the two balks. So our offense did nothing when we had men on base.
They got 9 runs on 10 hits, 6 walks (we walked guys tonight) and of course their 3 homers produced all 9 runs. You put their guys on base, they have the guys who can drive them in. We don’t. It is that simple.
As for pitching, the weak texas rotation and pen faced teh inconsistent Yankee pitching. Our weak hitting is no match for their weak hitting.
Finally, Girardi went with Marte too long but I am not sure if he really had an option. I would not have used Robertson in the 9th. Marte put himself in a bind in the 9th and then melted. I am not sure that Joe wanted to go to Veras and he would not use Mo in a tie game. End of story.
The only thing worse than this loss is the Joba injury. Hope we can all have a collective sigh of relief that he is Ok. He may have jammed his shoulder when he hit the deck on I-Rod throw to second.
Ramirez rebounded nicely. Bruney did his job and looks like he is back.
Girardi lost us this game. Marte was at 41 pitches and he kept him in with the bases loaded. That’s just asking for trouble and a loss.
You can be mad tonight all you want… but if Girardi has anything on anyone, it’s bullpen management, it’s by far his strongest attribute
Completely disagree. He has not managed his bullpen at all. His situational pitching selection is not effective, he leaves starters in too long, leaves bullpen in too long, never uses a trip to the mound – like tonight would have been a good time – doesn’t understand pitching matchups unless they statistically based.
Sorry, but he may have stronger attributes but managing a bullpen/pitching staff is not it, especially for a former catcher.
WFAN: Joba will be to NY for tests will miss atleast 1 start
Marte has not thrown more than 58 innings since 2004. You know how many innings he’s pitched so far this year? 50. That’s already more than he threw last year. All he’s good for this year is to be a lefty specialist.
God, people stop blaming Girardi!!! He’s got an overtaxed bullpen, a 10 day stretch, hot weather. Yes lets bring everyone in!!!!! Then all there arms can fall off. At least there are some people left tomorrow, because how long are their starters going to last the next 3 in 100 degree heat. THINK!!! Marte just ran out. It could be alot worst if he got hte out and they went 12-14 innings.
Uh, Brandon, if the Rangers score, there IS no next inning!
LOLOL – geniuses on this thread tonight….
hahaa no baseball talk when I am really PISSED OFF
can u read it
Jesus…quit blaming the home plate umpire. He was bad, for both sides. His strike zone was all over the place.
23 y/o rookie couldn’t possible have done a worse job that Marte did there, so who cares. It was questionable move one way or the other. Second guessing isn’t going to change, but everyone has the right to speak there opinion. Last I checked this was a baseball blog, what the hell is it for? To second guess, root, bitch, moan, and piss about the game. Get over yourselves.
Uh, Brandon, if the Rangers score, there IS no next inning!
LOLOL – geniuses on this thread tonight….
Your a real smart person David Robertson has pitched 14.2 IP and you want to put him in a basesloaded situation over Damaso Marte ? Go to bed.
Every loss like tonight is a KILLER in this race. BOTH teams ahead of us lost, and we can’t even beat the worst pitching in the league, getting shut down almost every inning late in the game other than Nady’s HR and Damon’s double. That’s not going to get it done.
When your rotation is 3 deep, you BETTER win on the nights those 3 pitch. They lost when Andy pitched on Thursday and lost today with Joba. Those are two losses that you CANNOT afford to have with the team structured the way it is.
If not for Friday’s game already happening, this is hands down the worst loss of the season. When you have 3 games that can be considered “the worst loss of the season” in a week’s stretch, you’re in big trouble.
Ok, Joe brings in Robertson. Then what about the rest of the series? Expecting all three pitchers to go 9 innings?
Well, it would have been nice to pick this one up after Tampa and Boston blowing it, but walks kill, as clearly evidenced tonight. After the dust settels, there are a few positives, Bruney looked good, Nady continues to impress me, and Giambi is hitting against the shift. Tonight’s umpiring crew was inexcusable, I thought the first balk call was bogus, the reversal of the DP even more so, and the strike zone changed every inning. It was almost as if CB Buckner was behind the plate…
“leaves bullpen in too long”
Situational second-guessing. He leaves them in too long when they blow it. When they get out of their jams, do you give him credit for trusting them?
You manage a bullpen the way Torre managed it, with everyone getting hooks at the first sign of trouble, arms start getting burned out, Mariano’s chief among them because he’s the guy you’re always looking to in the 8th inning. Meanwhile, the guys getting hooked feel like they’re on a short leash every time they pitch, which is never good for a reliever.
Twice in a row Girardi leaves a pitches in too long. That’s after a bunch of times leaving starters in too long. He’s dumb and stubborn. Very hard to win when you have to face the umps and your own manager.
but i thought brian cashman was a genius?
Coach Jay, I stopped trying to read it after the 1st line. I understand being pissed but dude, take a xanax and chill out a bit.
Someone Else, that is common sense. Others can’t see that.
I fear that all these give away games are becoming more and more difficult to overcome in the standings…..It’s putting the team in a must win situation when they go head to head with Boston and Tamps Bay ( who I still say will be fading away by Labor Day )…..
don’t go crying in your pillow about the umps. Chamberlain will be back, and the Yanks lost no ground tonight. They have to suck it up and move on, or else this is going to be a LONG roadie.
Hey Confucius isn’t 42 pitches for a reliever who already had proven he had little to no command leaving in too long?
Just how badly hurt is Mariano?
Postgame Girardi said they think it’s muscular – going to NYC for tests tomorrow – Joba to miss at least 1 start.
May or may not have occurred while avoiding Pudge’s throw…
Someone Else, that is common sense. Others can’t see that.
You expect common sense in this blog
For all of you dreamers out there who said 3 out of 4 was a must, maybe sweep this series, now you know this team doesn’t have what it takes to hit even mediocre pitching.
Baseball Tonight on ESPN2 doing the Yankee game now.
Brandon, if Robertson can’t get Byrd there, he’s not ready to be here….
Think Joba injury is muscular but will send him to NY for tests to be sure. Possible he can miss a start but will wait for the tests to know for sure. Joba doesn’t think he did it falling backwards.
Mo not available tonight. Veras only in an emergency.
Joba says its the muscle on the arm below the shoulder. Velocity was good so he’s not worried. “It doesn’t hurt in the wrong places”
Marte’s gamelog indicates this was an extremely high # of pitches for him:
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2008
plus factor in that he threw high-stress pitches in the 8th & 9th.
You guys can blame the umps, or Girardi, or Marte or whomever, but what really lost this game was WALKS! Walks kill.
Why is Rasner not sent to the minors??!! They are really going to play with 1 man short in the bullpen?! That makes absolutely no sense. Rasner is garbage and how many innings are they really expecting to get out of Giese? He hasnt pitched long in a while now..Maybe 4 innings if they are lucky. This move makes absolutely no sense. They are going to have to bring up Aceves or Kennedy they have no other choice…
“Hey Confucius isn’t 42 pitches for a reliever who already had proven he had little to no command leaving in too long?”
He had enough command to get two outs in the inning.
You want to throw Veras or Robertson in there, show that you have no faith in the guy to get one more out? That’s underrating his value to the team, and maybe overrating the guys you want in there.
Brandon, if Robertson can’t get Byrd there, he’s not ready to be here….
Stop embarrassing yourself.
Yankess could win the game,only to fail it.
In a nutshell,Yankees must play harder and strong desire to win than Redsox and Rays.
I don’t want to see the season is over on September.
Someone else,
With 50 games to go, you manage for the win. Get out of the inning, give the middle of your lineup a chance to score, and throw Veras to close it. If not, Roberston pitches the 10th, Veras the 11th, and then you use whomever you can (the guy who’s day it is to throw on Tuesday, etc).
You then send down Christian in the morning and call up a fresh arm from SWB.
That’ three disheartening losses in one weeks time
Hey everyone, watched both games. While I can’t say I’m sorry you guys lost, I can say I wish both the Sox and Yanks won (rather than both lose). Tough one to take for both of us. The Sox had bases loaded in the 9th but lost 4-3. You guys suffered from bad umpires and a few bad pitches.
But seriously, your season is not over. As a Sox fan, I am way more worried about your team than the Rays. Yea, the new guy blew it. Give him a break. Bay went 0-3 with a questionable hit (not sure if it was ruled as an error). A hit from him in the 9th would’ve won the game for the Sox. It didn’t happen. Marte didn’t pitch that great and Joe left him out too long. These guys are nervous and trying to impress their new clubs. They’re allowed to mess up.
And I agree that the umpires missed a few calls there (though maybe not that double-play reversal one). But pitchers were missing their marks and Pudge was having a hard time framing them.
In the end, everyone lost. The standings have not changed and it’s like today’s games never happened. However, the Rays need to start losing…a lot.
Well I’d rather lose this way, than burn out a worn out bullpen with a scary option of starters who don’t last long in a Texas heat. Seriously, say it went 13 and you use Veras and Robertson. Then what is left the next several days?? They needed to win in the 9th. Then, it was sad to say better they lost this way.
russo is going to be so giddy tomorrow, its going to be painful
haha OK I took my meds and in a happy place
Honestly, who cares about this stupid game. The Yankees missed opportunities like they have all season. It’s a bad offensive team.
I’m just worried about Joba. If it’s structural damage, the Yankees future just looks awful then. I pray he’s OK.
No one has mentioned that Joba out for at least 1 start may force IPK up for a turn.
Anyone disagree? If so, who else would start Sat against LAA?
Oppenheimer says Melancon is ready and awaiting Cashman’s call, so he could fill a role if Giese is needed to spell more than 1 turn.
Just speculating here…
QUESTION
When Joba faced Boston and threw 7 shut out innings. Farnsworth came into the game, got an out and then gave up 2 consecutive hits. Girardi RAN OUT TO THE MOUND and took him out of the game.
Was he hurt? No. Girardi said it was because he didn’t have it.
Someone explain to me tonights game. Marte’s fastball was high, he walked the bases loaded. What other signs that Marte didn’t have it did Joe need?
“He had enough command to get two outs in the inning.
You want to throw Veras or Robertson in there, show that you have no faith in the guy to get one more out? That’s underrating his value to the team, and maybe overrating the guys you want in there.”
Also three walks and looked pretty shaky the previous inning. I just think Girardi pushed his luck…Marte when he is on his game is better than Robertson. But perhaps a fresh Robertson trumps Marte when he’s at a very high pitch count and not his best stuff. I only mention Robertson because I’ve heard that Veras was not available.
You also talk about faith in a reliever…Marte is going to lose some faith in himself after that, that can’t be good for anyone’s psyche.
Christian is not ready on Mlb yet.
“In a nutshell,Yankees must play harder and strong desire to win than Redsox and Rays.”
The Red Sox and Rays don’t ‘desire’ wins any more than the Yankees do.
A few bad calls, a few bad pitches, a few great defensive plays on the other side, and an injury to the starter. ‘Playing harder’ does not avoid all that.
The yankess have to be the biggest fools ,for buying into the Arod hype,supposedly the best player in the game.He’s a big joke.Nady had to start at zero and already has passed All the players on this sorry lot called a team.
YANKEES REALLY DO STINK!
What a crappy friggin game.
Its a god dman line-up for only one time the game, so it shouldnt be a big deal to move guys around, and the players need to swallow nope not their pride but swallow your EGOS and all that $$$$$$$$$$.. Try JOE changing some things around for a day
Damon,Abreu,AROD,NADY,Giambi,CANO,PUDGE,MELKY
JETER,PUDGE,ABREU,AROD,NADY,GIAMBI,CANO,MELKY
or anyother combonations Cano @ 2 IDK… ALso rip this team apart in a meeting any1 Girardi, TOny Pena, PUDGE, DJ,AROD, DAmon, ANY 1 get into this team hard
David Cone- Whats to say Rasner doesnt take Joba’s spot?
“Captain Needs To Be In The Timeout Corner”, Aceves is definitely not ready for a call-up and, the FO and pitching coaches must not think that Kennedy is ready, yet…..and, no…Hughes isn’t ready yet, either.
Good thing we got a insurance pitchers…Zambrano and Eric Milton.
This is why you don’t start the season with three big rookie starting pitchers.Got to give them time.People kept saying we don’t need any starters.These starters aloso have a history of injuries.Why you think we even got Joba.
It was good that I got to see The Dark Knight again rather then this game.
Lets see if Kennedy and Rasner can help us:)
1st one im sorry Jeter goes before PUDE
Here’s my thing. It’s late and tied and may for who knows how long? You bring Bruney in the 8th, he gets the leadoff guy to strike out then bring in Marte. I know that Bruney’s coming back from the DL, but you got to let Bruney stay in that inning unless he gets into trouble.
For now, Marte needs to be used in shorter outings in order to be more effective.
This Rangers team is not a pushover like the ones of the recent past. They’re a legitimate WC team.
Good thoughts and best wishes to Joba.
Raul,
How is this Alex Rodriguez’s fault?
I cannot believe the luck of the Yanks Wang,Joba,IPK,Hughes,Matsui,Posada. This season has to be written off based on injury alone.
In that Boston game, Rivera was available to come in.
Tonight David Robertson was warming up.
That’s the difference.
PJH – true, forgot about that.
Wow – Giese, Rasner starting the first two against LAA.
6-4 roadtrip is looking like a fantasy right now.
Is Richie Sexon the worst player in baseball?
OK, Marte wore out. But do you want a worn out Veras, Robertson and Marte. Along with an unavailble Rivera, used Bruney and Ramirez tomorrow and the next day if they lost in extra innings. Since they didn’t score in the top of the 9th it was better they lost there. The BP would have been DESTROYED!!!! And yea I don’t think Pettite and Mussina can go 9
“You manage a bullpen the way Torre managed it, with everyone getting hooks at the first sign of trouble, arms start getting burned out, Mariano’s chief among them because he’s the guy you’re always looking to in the 8th inning. Meanwhile, the guys getting hooked feel like they’re on a short leash every time they pitch, which is never good for a reliever.”
That is a little ridiculous. Marte clearly didn’t have his best tonight. I don’t if you were watching the game but you would have seen that his fastball was up in the zone. What do you think is going to happen.
Ramirez the other day was all over the place. What do you think is going to happen.
There’s a difference between not having your best of and getting out of a jam and not having any stuff and getting into jams.
“You also talk about faith in a reliever…Marte is going to lose some faith in himself after that, that can’t be good for anyone’s psyche.”
Marte is a 34 year old man. He’s experienced enough to know the extent of his ability and how confident he can be in it, and he’s been through this plenty of times before. When the manager shows less confidence than the player does, then there’s a problem.
Robertson or Veras comes in and gives up that grand slam? Yeah, that could be a shatter job.
Anyone who can read body language can see that Girardi was out of it since Joba left the game. He knows that this is the final straw honestly this game lost significance when Joba went down.
Is stretching out Hughes with the big team instead of in SWB an option?
Is Mo’s injury his back or really his shoulder? I read in 2 newspapers today that it is his shoulder. Are the Yanks just saying it is his back because they know that looks better to fans then his shoulder? So fans and media don’t go crazy. They said the back of his shoulder but then that is his arm and not his back….
Ya and he knows he is the manager that mangaged the Yankees in the final season of the greatest place on earth and didnt even earn a playoff berth something we have done for 14 years in a row until now. Wouldnt wanna be Joe Girardi at all no thank you..
I JUST WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THE COMMON SENSE JIM, SERIOUSLY THANK YOU.
“The Red Sox and Rays don’t ‘desire’ wins any more than the Yankees do.”
Sorry,but I disagree.
Mel, Bruney pitched 1.1 innings and the left handed Texas power was coming up.
Yeah, Veras or Robertson comes in. They get out of it. Then what? Say we don’t score. Then the BP is worn out. Then think of the rest of this schedule? That is why he was left in. Would you rather win a 13 inning game tonight and lose the next 4 because your bullpen is worn out? Or lose and possibly win the next 4. That was Girardi’s thinking my guess
“In that Boston game, Rivera was available to come in.
Tonight David Robertson was warming up.
That’s the difference.”
So only Mo can save the day? If you don’t have it, you don’t have it. I see no difference.
It happens to every pitcher. It’s not a foreign thing. There are going to be days when they are completely flat. You can’t leave them in there and pray. Try someone else. If they fail then you can say “well, Marte didn’t have it, he walked the bases loaded, his fastball was high and we’re in Texas against a offense. I didn’t want to see the game ending with a fireworks show.”
“This Rangers team is not a pushover like the ones of the recent past. They’re a legitimate WC team.”
Are you serious??!! A WC team?!!! Yeah with the worse pitching staff in the AL.
Listen up the SOx and Rays lost ok we heard it and saw it, The YANKS had a bad defeat 2nite, SO NO TALK of the SOX And RAYS we dont care bout them 2nite we care bout the NEW YORK YANKEES. go wash your bandwagon shirts. Its so weird how all SOx fans have fresh clothes,hats,jerseys, and pix around.. I HEAR THE SOUND. the Wagon is leaving so jump on
That was a little disconcerting when ESPN employee Buck Showalter commented on how the Yankees have handled Joba this season as if he knew what he was talking about.
Stretching out Hughes at the ML level wouldn’t be of any help, because there’s nobody to send to the minors without DLing Chamberlain and Rasner would need to be waived and he would never clear waivers.
RIght so once he clears waivers we take him off the 40 and send him to double AA..
Brandon if that was sarcastic, whatever. I’d rather lose tonight and save the BP, then win and possibly lose the next few because they all have dead arms.
“Captain Needs To Be In The Timeout Cornerâ€, Aceves is definitely not ready for a call-up and, the FO and pitching coaches must not think that Kennedy is ready, yet…..and, no…Hughes isn’t ready yet, either.”
Ummm…..please tell me who you think will be taking the 2 open spots in the rotation. Maybe 3 when Ponson stinks it up his next time out..??!!! Joba will now miss a couple of starts and Rasners spot..?
something tells me that Girardi for quite some time hasn’t been a fan of Ian Kennedy…
Yea he did make some comments that came off as “arrogant”, but the guy is 23, and a rookie. Hes still learning how to talk with the media. I would have rather him talk with atitude then to mope about every bad start. Hes been looking at the positives.
Some how I think that they would perfer him not to pitch againt the angels b/c they dont want to throw him into the fire against a great team. Even though great team or not a pitcher should be prepared.
Aceves, Hughes & that Pavano guy are not ready as they are all still working their way back from injuries.
Cashman & Girardi, justifiably, seem to think IPK needs some more seasoning in AAA.
Assuming Joba misses some time, they may use Giese and Rasner. If they really want Rasner out, the most likely call up would be Chase Wright. Hold on tight!
Moose, Pettitte, Ponson, Giese, and Rasner/Wright. I’m really not trying to be negative, but that’s not exactly the rotation we need to win 2/3 games for the rest of the season to get into the playoffs.
Ok all talk bout guys not being ready, JOBA goes on DL we are in trouble so here we go ready for this. YANKS sign DAVID WELLS for remander of the Season.. Yanks also. look into Livan Hernandez or Pavano will start in BALT
Maybe Girardi can call up to the booth and ask Coney to suit up?
CaptainsCorner,
The Rangers are only 2.5 GB of us. If they’re not a WC team, we’re not a WC team. Run differential don’t mean crap when you get wins.
Joe Girardi being out managed. Who would have thought???
I’ve been saying that the Yankees do not have what it takes to make the playoffs from the beginning of the season.
This loss does not surprise me in the least. Get used to it folks, this is not our year.
Not ready to call it a season just yet. We still got the talent to make it.
Stop hating on Jeter. What more does he need to do?? This game isn’t over.