Game 113: Yankees at Rangers
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- August
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YANKEES (61-51)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Nady DH
Cano 2B
Sexson 2B
Molina C
Christian CF
Pettitte LHP
Andy Pettitte (12-8, 4.18) vs. the Texas hitters.
Matt Harrison (2-2, 7.40) has never faced any of the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees have lost six of their last nine. … The Big G goes 3 for 4 with a homer and two RBI and has to sit against Matt Harrison? Meanwhile, interesting that Pettitte got shelled the last time with Pudge Rodriguez catching and now Molina is catching him. … Harrison is a 22-year-old lefty who has made five starts. … Nady is 12 of his last 23 with eight runs scored, 11 RBI and four homers. … Abreu has reached base safely in 23 straight games. … The Yankees have hit nine homers in their last three games.
IT’S GETTING LATE EARLY: After today’s game, only 49 games will be left. That’s 30 percent of the season.
TEXAS TWO-STEP: The Yankees have traditionally given savage beatings to Texas, going 20-6 against them from 2005-07. But they are 1-3 against the Rangers this season.
NO WORD YET: Still waiting on the Joba. Do not expect anything definite today. The Yankees tend to break bad news in small doses. I’ll update the blog as soon as I hear anything.
Back later with updates.
* * * * * * 6:34 p.m. UPDATE ON JOBA CHAMBERLAIN * * * * * *
Chamberlain had an MRI today in New York. The Yankees would not reveal what it showed. However, Joba is being sent to Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., for another examination tomorrow.
Girardi did not say who would start on Saturday. The first name he mentioned as a possibility was Darrell Rasner
UPDATE, 6:41 p.m.: Just spoke to Brian Cashman. He said the Yankees know what the images showed but until they hear from Andrews, they’re not going to reveal what that is.
It’s safe to say the MRI showed something. Otherwise Chamberlain wouldn’t be going to see Dr. Andrews. Will Carroll made an interesting point, saying that Andrews is known for conservative treatment. That could be a sign it’s not a devastating injury.
Regardless, do not expect Joba to pitch any time soon. If there was something on the MRI worth sending him for a second opinion, they’re not just going to cross their fingers and run him back out there in 10 days.
UPDATE, 6:54 p.m.: You can expect Ian Kennedy to start one of the games in Anaheim, either Friday or Saturday. If Giese is not used in relief the next few days, he’ll get the other one.
UPDATE, 9:25 p.m.: Fine effort by the Yankees, who are being made to look silly by a rookie with a 7.40 ERA.
UPDATE, 9:55 p.m.: Two stinkers in a row for Andy Pettitte. 10.1 innings, 17 hits and 14 runs (so far).
UPDATE, 10:26 p.m.: I’m not following this. Pudge is the pinch runner and Melky is the pinch hitter?
Melky is hitting .250 against RHPs. Pudge is hitting .293. Also, he’s Pudge Rodriguez and hammered the ball in this park for 11 years.
UPDATE, 10:28 p.m.: And Melky pops to short.
UPDATE, 11:03 p.m.: I guess we know why they were reticent to bring Bruney up. Man, this is an ugly game. Remember when the Yankees used to smack Texas around? Not any more. They’ll be 1-4 this season with two games to go. That’s a travesty given the Texas pitching staff.
UPDATE, 11:08 p.m.: But wait, C.J. Wilson somehow manages to walk two guys, hit A-Rod and Richie Sexson slams one.
8-6 Rangers. The Yankees are breathing again.
The double and HR were the first extra-base hits for Sexson as a Yankee.
UPDATE, 11:27 p.m.: So the Yankees think the Rangers purposely hit A-Rod to lead off the second inning and again hit him again on purpose with first base occupied in the eighth inning?
UPDATE, 11:29 p.m.: One way or another, it comes down to Alex. Always does.
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big g 3/4 and then sits…..I dont get it either
Big sexy in the lineup….oy vey
HALLELUJAH 3 4 and 5 FIXED !!!!
GIDP tandem still together
X is awesome.
About time they gave Sexson a shot at 2nd.
Sexson is at 2nd, hahahahahahahah!
so i take it pettite is the 1B and P tonight?
And Melky sits again.
Like seeing Christian in there.
Let Melky think about things for another game.
My guess is we’ll get some vague non-news shortly before game time about how Joba has been diagnosed with some injury, but they need to do further tests to be sure there aren’t any other problems and won’t know how long he’ll be out until the weekend, or something along those lines.
I assume Sexson is actually at 1B?
Cano can make it over to 1st faster than Sexson, if there is going be a play….keep Robbie and Richie and 2nd together….it sounds like a cartoon !
Dear God,
LEAVE ANDY ALONE
“HALLELUJAH 3 4 and 5 FIXED !!!!”
Might only be for tonite. Witohut Giambi, he has no other viable (and I use that word loosely) #5 hitter. Giambi will be back tomorrow and that’s when we’ll know for sure. I’d guess Nady is back at #6 as Joe G won’t want some tough lefty being brought in to face Giambi and Cano back to back in a big spot.
I am expecting to hear Joba has muscle tear in shoulder out 4-6 weeks and for this team that is effectively the rest of the season. I wouldn’t rush him or Hughes this season is a wash get CC plug him in start next year with a CC, Wang, Joba, Hughes,Andy/Moose rotation.
Dang Pete, I’ve been tense about Joba all day, and you gotta drop the whole “The Yankees tend to break bad news in small doses” thing on us. Arghh!
Welcome to the doghouse Melky Cabrera
You know what, I whine all the time about Girardi playing Wilson Betemit, but if Girardi is determined to maximize his left-handers in the lineup– although Giambi’s splits against right-handed and left-handed pitcher differ not at all– I’d almost prefer him to Sexon.
From what I’ve seen of Sexon lately, you’re lucky if you get a single from him against a lefty. Expecting more than a base-hit every 5 ABs is like expecting a forthcoming answer from Cashman about Joba’s injury.
Front 6 looks good but bottom 3 I see K,K and ground out.
Last chance for Sexton tonight.
I expect to see Duncan up shortly if he fails again tonight. His AB vs. Guardardo was pathetic. He cant even hit a lefty throwing 86.
Is Mariano available??
Awesome. Giambi goes 3 for 4 yesterday and he sits today. Hopefully he can cool down again and go 0 for 4 in tomorrows game!
I don’t give a damn what anybody saids watch this offense punch someone tonight. Nady protecting Alex gets him more pitches and we take away a bat that is .198 w/ RISP and damaging Alex’s approach on top of that. Watch tonight the difference. QUOTE ME !
I expect to see Duncan up shortly if he fails again tonight.
Shelley? If so..he’s..injured..
finally X protecting alex
Richie Sexson is a joke.
Duncan is trying to come back from a pretty severe shoulder injury. Plus he stunk while he was here. Sexton is here, don’t think that a career minor leauger will replace him.
now the Giambi peanut gallery is at it.. they thought he was done this time yesterday. he gets 3 hits in 101 degrees and Girardi is a moron for giving him a day of rest against a lefty.
SHUT UP clowns……..
SHUT up E Man and other fools.. It is 101, Giambi sweats in the shower, is injury prone, and they want to give the LF’s 1/2 day off over the last 2 days.. SHut up with complaining about every DAMN LINEUP….
Sexson remains at 2nd base until everyone here spells his name right.
“Nady protecting Alex gets him more pitches”
Nady doesn’t protect Alex. That would imply that Nady somehow inspires fear in the eyes of a pitcher. He doesn’t. Alex will see the same stuff he’s been seeing because people will always be careful of him with an inferior bat behind him. Abreu gets protection from Arod. Ortiz used to get protection from Ramirez. Nady is not a protection bat.
“SHUT up E Man and other fools.. It is 101, Giambi sweats in the shower, is injury prone, and they want to give the LF’s 1/2 day off over the last 2 days.. SHut up with complaining about every DAMN LINEUP….”
LOL. The pot calling the kettle black!
Is this the last game Sexon will play prior to being put on waivers??? Giambino has a great game yesterday and they rest him??!?!?!?
Also, any thoughts on Joba not vibing well with Pudge? I mean, Pudge almost took his head off throwing to 2nd!
Bad day in the quarry huh Stuart?
Mo is expected to be available tonight.
E man I never complain about the lineups like fools like you………..
you have no CLUE…NONE….
They are playing in 100 plus degree heat. Joe already stated that he is going to use the dh spot to rotate guys out of the heat, hense Nady dh’ing and Sexton starting! Do you want the Big G to play another game in 100 plus heat cramp up and be lost for a few games?
yeah rhapsody my internet connection in the quarry is really slow….
Hey Fredo and what Alex does strike fear in a pitcher?
He is the only great HR hitter who is always 0-2 and doesnt get walked…. Am I wrong here?
“Also, any thoughts on Joba not vibing well with Pudge? I mean, Pudge almost took his head off throwing to 2nd!”
That stuff happens. What was more disconcertng, so far as Joba and Pudge working together, was how frequently Joba was shaking Pudge off. They did not seem to connect in terms of pitch selection.
“After today’s game, only 49 games will be left. That’s 30 percent of the season.”
It’s still early.
“Last chance for Sexton tonight.
I expect to see Duncan up shortly if he fails again tonight. His AB vs. Guardardo was pathetic. He cant even hit a lefty throwing 86.”
I disagree. He’s been terrible offensively, but he’s still a superior defensive option in the late innings to our lovely collection of butchers.
Tino was looking in shape on Saturday. Maybe it’s time for a two-month comeback….
Thank you Rebecca.
“Mo is expected to be available tonight.”
jennifer no logic let the complainers do there thing and omplain about anything and everything…
giambi sweats in the shower and is not exacly a sturdy soul…
Haha great post by stuart, the lineup-whining gets really tiresome but it’s always good for a few laughs. There are more important things to be worrying about with the team right now than who hits where.
“Hey Fredo and what Alex does strike fear in a pitcher?”
I guess you’re right. Pitchers are always so anxious to face .300 hitters with 45 homer power.
Stick to soccer linguine-breath.
the call on the Kinsler play lost them the game.. I still have not seen the supposed foul ball hit Kinsler…
“About time they gave Sexson a shot at 2nd.”
LOL
anybody know where to find a page on the web that the game last night was entered into a scorebook? I was wondering exactly what Christian did when he went 0 for 3
Nady doesn’t protect Alex. That would imply that Nady somehow inspires fear in the eyes of a pitcher. He doesn’t. Alex will see the same stuff he’s been seeing because people will always be careful of him with an inferior bat behind him.
Trust me word is getting out on Nady right now .334 w/RISP gets around just like Abreu’s .360 + AVG w/ RISP gets around. You will see a different offense tonight. Bank on it.
“E man I never complain about the lineups like fools like you………..”
You complain about everything Little. You’re complaining about me right now.
Shelley is back playing at Scranton.Sexson has looked overmatched in game situations.If he’s not hitting lefties he should not be here.
I dont think anyone here will say that Arod strikes fear in pitchers the way that Manny Rameriz does or the way Albert does or the way Barry Bonds did?
I happen to like Arod, but he isnt a hitter who you get scared of in a big situation….
Also, any thoughts on Joba not vibing well with Pudge? I mean, Pudge almost took his head off throwing to 2nd!
And that’s on Joba’s inexperience, he should know live play runner at 1st get out of the catcher’s path.
Last night’s game really left a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. Not only the whole Joba thing but the way we lost the game knowing we would have made up a game on the Sox and Rays.
This season has really been like that rollercoaster ride you knew you shouldn’t have gone on right after you ate a cheeseburger with greasy fries all while pounding 4 beers…
And like that ride, if you make it through the ups and downs and upside-downs, it would have been well worth it.
maybe THAT’s the reason Joba is hurt…..from dodging that throw..
“What was more disconcertng, so far as Joba and Pudge working together, was how frequently Joba was shaking Pudge off. They did not seem to connect in terms of pitch selection.”
I noticed the same Fredo, just my opinion but I wondered why Joba didn’t give Pudge the pitch he was looking for, maybe I give Pudge more credit then he is due, but I believe there isn’t a better catcher for a young pitcher.
E-Man, you are way off, stuart is one of the first people on these threads ripping the people who (usually idiotically) nitpick every single lineup.
“What, Melky hitting 9th? Why not move him up to 2nd to get his bat heated up?!?!?!”
“Betemit! WE ARE GOING TO LOSE BY 10 RUNS BECAUSE BETEMIT IS IN THIS GAME”
And so on and so forth, it’s always really ridiculous.
Pete has both Cano and Sexson playing 2B on the lineups.
Why are people complaining about Sexon being in the lineup?
Isin’t this why we got him? If he isin’t in the lineup against a rookie lefty, when when is he ever going to play?
Giambi has one good game and now his entire 1 month of suckage is erased?
1. it’s asinine to complain about the lineup every single day. they’re up against a lefty and, last night notwithstanding, giambi’s been ice cold. it’s 100+ degrees out and the guy’s huge and prone to injury. why not give him a night off? (and there’s no “T” in sexon, by the way.)
2. joba shook jorge off plenty of times. molina, too. it’s one of the few problems with the kid. he seems to think he knows better than his catcher and, as SJ documented, he’s paid for it a couple of times.
3. in terms of the yankees “breaking bad news in small doses,” i don’t think it’ll be great news or awful news. most likely they’ll say he strained or pulled a muscle and then offer an optimistic timetable for his return, which we’ll all know by now will equate to about 1/3 of the time he’ll actually miss. at this point, it’s not going to be great news. the kid’s hurt, it’s just a matter of how severely. hopefully it’s not bad and we’ll see him again this year. if we don’t read the words “labrum” or “rotator cuff,” it’s good news in the big picture.
Its becoming very clear that this team is not going to make the post season.
Im going to start hoping for the best but expecting the worst.
“He is the only great HR hitter who is always 0-2 and doesnt get walked…. Am I wrong here?”
Yes, you’re wrong. His OBP is 80 points higher than his BA so he must be getting his walks.
Hi Kasey…long time no blog
Girardi is a CLOWN anyway. Good players / Bad manager.
“Trust me word is getting out on Nady right now .334 w/RISP gets around just like Abreu’s .360 + AVG w/ RISP gets around. You will see a different offense tonight. Bank on it.”
That’s two different things. The offense will be a little different, but Nady still offers Arod no protection. Pitchers will pitch Arod the same way they always do. Somewhat carefully.
Andrew, all you have to do is CTRL-F his name in past game posts and see him whining about Giambi being in the line up.
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is shelley expected to return anytime this yr? how much longer of this richie sexson experiment the guy is an absolute joke.
Nady doesn’t offer protection to A-Rod.
What he does offer is a bat that can hit with RISP.
Next year Arod’s protection will be Miranda and 37 yr old Posada.
Not getting Tex and getting rid of Abreu, our lineup will now be closer to the SF Giants than the Sox. Arod will never get a thing to hit.
“Andrew, all you have to do is CTRL-F his name in past game posts and see him whining about Giambi being in the line up.”
I don’t know, that sounds kind of obsessive/creepy. Plus, Giambi is just one guy. Most of these people spread their love around to whoever went 0-for-4 or whoever particularly annoys their eyes by seeing them in the lineup, with all kinds of bluster and bold statements and so on (last time this guy starts! get this guy off the team!). Today it’s Richie Sexson. Tomorrow it will probably be someone else.
“Stick to soccer linguine-breath.”
A-Rod walks plenty and of course pitchers don’t want to face him. But, what does linguine smell like? Kinda depends on the sauce, doesn’t it?
is nady our mike lowell?
E man continue with your BS and lies.. seriously are you a friggin moron…
yeah I am giving Girardi advice on where to bat Melky.. SUre, again isn’t it time for your nap or cartoons????
“Giambi sweats in the shower”
this line made me laugh a lot more than i should have….
“it’s asinine to complain about the lineup every single day. they’re up against a lefty and, last night notwithstanding, giambi’s been ice cold. it’s 100+ degrees out and the guy’s huge and prone to injury. why not give him a night off? ”
Fine, give him a night off but when he comes back don’t stick him in the #5 hole. That’s my main argument. Put him in the #3 hole.. He’s still getting his walks, it might jumpstart him a little. You can stick Abreu in the #5 spot and keep this line up deep.
That’s two different things. The offense will be a little different, but Nady still offers Arod no protection. Pitchers will pitch Arod the same way they always do. Somewhat carefully.
Nope not really because the pitcher will have in the back of his mind that the next guy can hurt him. See there is a difference between .198 and .334 w/ RISP…if you read Alex’s stats his OBP % in these situations is higher because the SP doesn’t pitch to him therefore he has to take a walk. They rather risk going at Giambi hence Alex doesn’t get protection, tonight when they risk walking him or if Alex hits a single or double the next guy can actually drive him home. And what results here is the SP will challenge him in his next AB instead of pitching around him.
You’ll see. Until later guys I gotta go, Harrison is toast tonight.
Mark if so Nady is a damn good player, let’s hope so….
Wagner to the DL!!!!!!!!!!!!
“is nady our mike lowell?”
Only if Mike Lowell all of a sudden became handsome.
I think Nady’s better than Lowell. Lowell is a doubles machine because he’s got that green monster to hit up against. I don’t think his numbers are as good away from Fenway.
Nady seems to have power to all fields. I like that. Oh yeah, and he’s hot too.
Do u think Sox will try to go after CC just to try to drive-up the price? Remember with Manny’s contract out the Sox have money to spend this off-season…I heard somewhere they have upto 50 Mil to spend this off-season.
I think the CC will be at an advantage with all the bidding that will go on. The bidding starts at 6 years 20 Mil = 120 Mil. That is just the starting bid. My guess is 7/8 Years 160 Mil. What do u guys think?
andrew maybe you can play stratematic in your mommies basement with E man??? You guys both are full of you know what and lie like a rug…….
as far as Giambi batting 3rd and moving Abreu to 5th. I see nothing a matter with that . That is a reasonable suggestion, would it make a difference? I have no idea, Giambi does get on base and Abreu is better with RISP then GIambi by a ton so far this year.
Wagner to the DL does not affect the Yankees in any way, shape or form.
“I think the CC will be at an advantage with all the bidding that will go on. The bidding starts at 6 years 20 Mil = 120 Mil. That is just the starting bid. My guess is 7/8 Years 160 Mil. What do u guys think?”
I think that we have enough to worry about this year w/o having to worry about who will be on the team next year.
“Wagner to the DL does not affect the Yankees in any way, shape or form.”
No, but it most certainly brings a smile to my face.
:p
Actually Stuart, Andrew was defending you.
You sure are smart.
Pete, do you live in an alternate universe where Jason Giambi is nicknamed the “Iron Horse”?
I like Nady hitting behind A-Rod. Better than Giambi.
“No, but it most certainly brings a smile to my face.”
That’s terrible.
I apologize to Andrew..
E man you still are a fool..
giambi as a platoon player boggles my mind. richie sexson stopped being a major leaguer 3 years ago
Giambi sitting, Sexson playing. Another brilliant move, Joe G.
Mike and the maddog lileing on Marte today.. The guy did walk to many of course but 46 pitches or so.. GIrardi let him out there to fail because of limited options in the pen. .WHy was Veras not available yesterday, anyone know?
pileing on.. oops….
The longer we wait, the worse the news has to be.
I still can’t reconcile myself to not playing in October though. The thought pains me too much.
Perhaps, they can hold out for four turns through the rotation until Hughes returns and they acquire a decent 4th starter from outside the organization, if the offense explodes and the bullpen, last night excepted, continues to dominate.
“Wagner to the DL does not affect the Yankees in any way, shape or form.”
Says the poster who constantly tells us about Syracuse weather, her schoolwork, her grad school optionss, etc.
Pedro part of the lineup CREW, nice… How about a Molina vs I ROD whine? How about CHristian vs Melky.. I think CHristian had an ofer yesterday??
WHINE WHINE WHINE….
“I apologize to Andrew..
E man you still are a fool..”
And you are clearly a genious.
yeah E man I have read your posts full of incredible wisdom and insight…
NOT REALLY..LEt’s just agree to dislike each other and leave it at that…
It’s honestly better that Joba doesn’t have forearm stiffness and soreness, to somehow make the Wagner discussion relevant. His (Joba’s) injury sounds like it is just the rest and rehabilitation-needed type, but Wagner’s symptoms are usually the Dr. James Andrews visit and operation precursors.
Also, stuart I was never into strat-o-matic, I guess I was the videogame generation so I went with Bases Loaded for NES.
“No, but it most certainly brings a smile to my face.â€
“That’s terrible.”
Really? You think Met fans were crying when they heard that Joba went down? Do you think that Tito had to be consoled after he heard the news? Come on. These are heated and often hatred filled rivalries. I hate the Mets and I hope they lose every game left in the season. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I can live with that.
Damn Stuart!! Why all the anger? Im in Socal as well and all the traffic in the world cant get me bent as much as you are. Im not sure what all the anger is about. Your not going to change people from complaining about the lineup. Everyone has their favorits and least favorites. I for one wouldnt mind Giambi sitting awhile if he’s not going to hit for us. We might as well have Sexson there if all we’re getting is defense. But i can see how people can be upset of him being benched after MAYBE breaking out of another slump. What im really wondering is if there is something going on with Melky. I would have thought he would be back in there today.
Relax man. Its only baseball.
I like the earlier comment calling for realistic expectations. Playoffs this season are a longshot, especially with the condition of the pitching staff. Anyone who truly expects the Yanks to get there this year may be in for disappointment. Hopefully, though, they’ll continue to stay in the race and make September interesting.
billy on the dl
The fact that we’re in contention despite the injuries to our starting pitchers as well as the injury to a catcher that hit .336 last year is itself remarkable.
“If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I can live with that.”
It doesn’t make you a bad person, it just makes you an idiot. It’s one thing hoping teams lose players, but it’s another hoping they get hurt… And Ortiz is different, his injuries are very possibly the result of taking steroids which caused breakdown, so that would serve him right.
But for Billy Wagner, it could be career ending… You like that to happen to people? I love seeing him get beaten on the field and abused, but I wouldn’t want him to get seriously injured.
Yanks need to get 3/4 especially after yesterdays debacle.
“Nady seems to have power to all fields. I like that. Oh yeah, and he’s hot too.”
This is why women should be banned from this blog.
“The fact that we’re in contention despite the injuries to our starting pitchers as well as the injury to a catcher that hit .336 last year is itself remarkable.”
True, but I have to wonder are we closing in on a time when our luck will run out…..
“The fact that we’re in contention despite the injuries to our starting pitchers as well as the injury to a catcher that hit .336 last year is itself remarkable.”
The Joba injury is fresh wait until next week. This team can’t survive on Andy, Moose, Razzy, Giese and Ponson.
I’m also curious as to why so many folks are crucifying Giradi over last night’s 9th inning. Rivera and Veras were unavailable. Bruney had pitched a lot over the weekend. If the game had dragged on, how many innings could Robertson have gone in that heat? Somehow, I think Joe knows the state and condition of his bullpen better than we do.
“This is why women should be banned from this blog.”
Really? How about all of the guy bloggers who go on and on about how hot Erin Andrews is? Should they be banned as well?
ZMAN777,
We will find away!! I cant immagine in my worst nightmare not making the playoffs. If Hughes, Aceves and I hate say the hated one contribute. We can get to the playoffs with mediocre pitching and the offense turning it up a notch.
Signed
Spoiled Yankee Fan
And comments about Erin Andrew, Kim Jones and that other woman should just be let slide?
Grow a pair and live with it.
“Nady seems to have power to all fields. I like that. Oh yeah, and he’s hot too.â€
This is why women should be banned from this blog.
Agreed.
SoS — it’s one thing to hope, another to expect. Oh, and Pavano will not pitch a meaningful inning in pinstripes ever again, in my opinion. He’ll find a reason to need more time in the minors.
“But for Billy Wagner, it could be career ending… You like that to happen to people? I love seeing him get beaten on the field and abused, but I wouldn’t want him to get seriously injured.”
Who said that Wagner had a career ending injury? I just read the post on MLB.com and I didn’t see that at all. In fact, here is what Minaya said: “Minaya said the MRI results came as good news because the injury was not more serious, and he said he is hopeful that Wagner’s stint on the DL will only last 15 days.”
And you take that to mean he’s done pitching for the rest of his life? Who’s the idiot now?
E-Man,
Please don’t listen to stuart. He is one of the King Morons here.
There are a ton of broads posting or it seems like there are. maybe that is why the level of discourse is pretty low.
Who makes less contact?
Sexson or Betemit?
Erin Andrews is hot. Anyone that says the same about Kim Jones should be shot.
That said, the ladies can say what they want. I haven’t seen any of them on here posting that don’t also know baseball. In fact, some/most know more than half of the guys that post.
“This is why women should be banned from this blog.
Agreed.”
The only men who want women banned from the blog are the ones who can’t handle listening to their opinions: baseball or otherwise. It’s not like my comment said nothing about Nady’s baseball skills. My comment about his hotness was thrown in for fun.
I love the double standard around here.
So it looks like Laura and I are going to have to spend tonight defending the ability of women to post on this blog?
Lovely.
“And you take that to mean he’s done pitching for the rest of his life? Who’s the idiot now?”
Try to know the situation a little beyond the words in an article. Wagner wasn’t even going to pitch next year if he wasn’t contracted to, but he wants to honor his contract. So being that he didn’t even want to pitch next year, he might very well not because of this injury. That’s called career ending, in case you don’t know that.
I’m just glad this signals the end of the Melky Era.
Defensive replacement is a fine job for him.
Speaking of Andrews, Dan Patrick was asking the media critic from the NY Times about her and how she dresses and interacts with the players. He’s not comfortable with the whole thing. Says you should just dress professionally and not use your “assets”.
Apparently there was a flap in Chicago that we missed? Low cut blouse, a lotta leg showing, and her hand on some subject’s leg?
“How about all of the guy bloggers who go on and on about how hot Erin Andrews is? Should they be banned as well?”
No – guys should be able to discuss hot women on this blog.
But of course – women, on this blog, should feel free to discuss hot women – in fact I encourage it.
Please don’t compare Erin Andrews to Kim Jones. You are embarrassing yourselves.
Does it really matter “who’s hot”, or for that matter, who isn’t? I think it’s a safe bet that no one on this blog will be shagging either Xavier Nady or Erin Andrews anytime soon.
I’m way hotter than all of you, combined…
“But of course – women, on this blog, should feel free to discuss hot women – in fact I encourage it.”
Sorry ladies, but that was funny….
“Trust me word is getting out on Nady right now .334 w/RISP gets around just like Abreu’s .360 + AVG w/ RISP gets around. You will see a different offense tonight. Bank on it”
arod could have david ortiz protecting him,and it wouldn’t matter.
Women are petty and catty and fight and they seem to get personal on attacks and other stuff. We all know them. We went to school with them. We’ve married them. They don’t know sports.
wow. and i thought greenberet and i lowered the level of discourse last night. this might be an all-time low for lohud.
hopefully we get some news about joba soon.
I can’t recall one time that someone here mentioned Erin Andrews.
But the “ladies” seem to mention hotness daily. This isn’t the knitting gossip club.
So…. what you’re saying is, Dan Patrick’s gay… never knew that.
Hey, I comment about Kim Jones’ assets all the time on this blog, as do many of the other guys. Ditto Erin Andrews.
I don’t see why the women on this blog can’t do likewise about the players.
Women discussing hot women before they cat fight.
Nice.
Put me in coach!
“Hey, I comment about Kim Jones’ assets all the time on this blog, as do many of the other guys. Ditto Erin Andrews.”
Because you’re a sexist pig means it should be ok for everyone??
Sound logic.
Wow. I went away for an hour and this place got…..wow. You’d think it was the fifth inning of any game in which we weren’t up 12-0…
Why didn’t Joba just go to my doctor? He would have been out by now…
Giambi is sitting for a AAA pitcher?! He finally hit yesterday and the ball flys out of that ball park..Let the guy play. It is an accomplishment for Sexson if he makes contact…
Does this erudite board hold a position on hermaphrodites? LOL
What? Nady’s not hot? Hitting .400 with 4 HR since joining the Yankees is not hot?
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything good from a female about anything sports related except for foxy boxing.
my grandmother still has a crush on tino after watching old timers day… yesterday, i got to listen to her rant about how ‘beautiful’ he looked…
I’m sorry if this has already been discussed, but can someone enlighten me as to what IPK did to alienate Cashman and Girardi during his time with the big club? Does he not take instruction well? Did he piss off his teammates? Does anyone actually know? I am not really pumped about seeing him pitching for the Yankees again anytime soon, but that’s just because my personal preference is to have guys who throw harder rather than nibble. It just seems like Cash and Girardi’s comments on IPK indicate that the problems run deeper than his on the field performance. Thanks in advance.
Weren’t there some women on the blog a few weeks ago complaining about guys that were “complimenting” Erin Andrews?
Giambi is sitting for a AAA pitcher?! He finally hit yesterday and the ball flys out of that ball park..Let the guy play. It is an accomplishment for Sexson if he makes contact…
Why? There’s a lefty on the mound! Who may last 5 innings! Girardi is a regular Miller Huggins.
Girls can post whatever they want here. Doesn’t mean they have to be listened to or responded to or taken seriously.
Sexson is a tool, but if you don’t play him against the occasional lefty, when do you? And, if the answer is never, then bring up Gardner.
Chris NY,
Actually, DP asked the question and the NYT guy answered it. Sorry shoulda been clearer. But the antecedent (?) was the guy from the Times.
“Does it really matter “who’s hotâ€, or for that matter, who isn’t? I think it’s a safe bet that no one on this blog will be shagging either Xavier Nady or Erin Andrews anytime soon.”
Nope, but theres no reason why it can’t be discussed on here either.
“… can someone enlighten me as to what IPK did to alienate Cashman and Girardi during his time with the big club?”
Maybe Cash/Joe want him to really earn his way back – get some fire in the belly.
That – and not winning a single game this season.
Giambi will be pinhc hitting for Christian in the 6th inning.
How enlightened of you, Gordo.
Wow all this and the game hasnt even started yet. I just want to know if we can still say “Damon throws like a girl”. Or is that a compliment these days?
I do agree that some of the women here know more about the game than half the guys here. Not more than me off coarse.
“But of course – women, on this blog, should feel free to discuss hot women – in fact I encourage it.”
Maybe Kim Jones and Aaron Andrews can. Pay per view.
saucY,
Is she too blind to see Tino’s fabulous gut?
I kinda like it when the ladies post their thoughts and opinions. Like they know anything. Keep ‘em comin’ Becca and Angel and mel and trisha and whoever else. It’s cute.
You can discuss whatever you like. It just seems that this topic sets some people off. Personally, I do think Erin Andrews is attractive, but sadly her looks are probably the biggest reason for her career rise.
“How enlightened of you, Gordo.”
It’s sports, babe. It isn’t politically correct and it shouldn’t be. Deal with it. There’s no crying in baseball, babe.
There is a special place in my heart for female sports fans, and I welcome them in spades on here. I love intelligent female sports fans, as they often bring the facts and reality without the hyperbole of the guys.
It’s not my fault half this blog probably cowers into the fetal position at the sight of a girl.
I’m kidding. I’m sure a few of you do get the babes.
MY comment didn’t attempt to justify being a “sexist pig,” Jersey. (But neither do I deny it either.)
Rather, I was commenting on this blog’s protocol. Namely, that I can hardly decry this blog’s female contributors for confessing their attraction to this player or that player, because I do likewise. Condemning them would amount to hypocrisy on my part or on the part of anyone else who has made similar comments about Kim Jones.
I leave it to sanctimonious people like you, Jersey, to play the role of prig and appoint yourself the blog’s moral arbiter.
Lol, I was only kidding anyway mel.
“(and there’s no “T†in sexon, by the way.)”
Yes, kasey – but there are 2 ’s’s – bitter people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
Winslow’s hot!
“I do agree that some of the women here know more about the game than half the guys here. Not more than me off coarse.”
Luckily the ladies know more grammar than you. “off coarse” LOL.
lol mel. if i pointed that out, i probably wouldn’t have gone home with a bag of (delicious) meatballs…
Christ half of you lot need to get out of mommy’s basement.
Breaking news on NY Post website says that Joba’s been sent to see a shoulder specialist.
So as long as Killing Schilling does it or says it, it is A-OK. Keep that in mind people. Always think what would Kill Schilling do???
And he is a sexist who oogles working women. So that’s good to go.
“Breaking news on NY Post website says that Joba’s been sent to see a shoulder specialist.”
He’s not pitching again in 2008. We should accept it now and move on.
Joba or Kennedy/Igawa/Pavano.
Damn you, Baseball Gods. Damn you.
Laura – yes, you are a bad person. That’s not the type of karma you want to throw around while we’re waiting on Joba’s injury report.
Joba was fun while he lasted. We’ll see him opening day 2009. Hopefully healthy.
btw, i appreciate the women here pointing out which players are hot.
how the hell else am i going to decide on my next haircut???
Wow, calm down. Wouldn’t it make sense to see a shoulder specialist for an injured shoulder? That tells us NOTHING.
That’s bad. No way to get around that.
There is nothing on the Post site. Liar.
Yeah, because you contribute so much around here.
saucY,
The fade is out and the X is in.
Wouldn’t you want to send your top, young starter to a specialist? Or, should he just visit his internist for an opinion?
I’m sure they will send his results to 3 shoulder specialists.
Why wouldn’t they????
I won’t believe anything unless I hear it from Peter or someone who actually has some credibility around here.
“There is nothing on the Post site. Liar.”
There is, and we’re sending you to see a proctologist.
I don’t draw moral conclusions, or cast moral judgments, about others, Jersey, whether to exonerate them or to condemn them.
I leave that to pious and self-appointed moral arbiters like you, Jersey.
Maybe he first received an MRI then was sent to the specialist because of the results of the MRI.
Just because you are here daily and sitting on a computer every single game and throwing 2 cents around on whatever topic you think you know, doesn’t mean you are contributing, Angel babe.
I think a collective verse of Kumbayah is needed right now. “Someone’s angry Lord . . .”
What would be bad is if they sent him to a neuro-surgeon. Did anyone expect them not to have Joba poked and prodded by every shoulder expert not at the Olympics?
Focus on your breathing and relax.
What injured pitcher doesn’t say Dr. Andrews?
guys, it really is on the Post site.
not much you can say about that. you’ve got a shoulder problem, you go see a shoulder specialist. we know no more or less than we did before.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052008/sports/yankees/joba_on_way_to_see_dr__andrews_123144.htm
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052008/sports/yankees/joba_on_way_to_see_dr__andrews_123144.htm
JOBA ON WAY TO SEE DR. ANDREWS
INJURED SHOULDER NEEDS SECOND LOOK
PS
August 5th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
There is nothing on the Post site. Liar.
Actually there is. But its basically the usual speculation, and stuff thats hardly surprising or worthy of a breaking news banner.
Rasner can replace Joba for a few starts. Kennedy after that when he is ready. The team isn’t done for without one player.
Perhaps it’s Dr. Erin Andrews?
and, by “guys,” i mean everyone. my being married to someone with a certificate in Women’s Studies does not preclude me from some unfortunate minor misogynistic tendencies. my apologies.
from the Post:
read the article on the post, it is there. Home page “breaking news.”
But why would you assume this isn’t standard procedure? The guy left the game with shoulder stiffness, so he’s going to see a specialist to see what exactly is wrong. MRI machine’s don’t talk. Gotta see the doctor.
John Gotti Jr was in the mob????
How is it breaking news that Joba is seeing Andrews? I thought that was assumed?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052008/sports/yankees/joba_on_way_to_see_dr__andrews_123144.htm
the happiest guy today is ponson… now theres no way hes losing his job, considering they are 3 spots up for grabs now, and with hughes 3 weeks away and with the orginization ticked off at kennedy, ponson is probably breathing a sigh of relief— same with rasner, hes the hybrid starter/reliever now.
Jorge Steinbrenner
August 5th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
“guys, it really is on the Post site.
not much you can say about that. you’ve got a shoulder problem, you go see a shoulder specialist. we know no more or less than we did before.”
Exactly. Its news thats hardly worthy of a breaking news banner, though.
Maybe a Stating the Bloody Obvious banner?
“Perhaps it’s Dr. Erin Andrews?”
She’s hot!
mel, i’ll need a few weeks to grow it now
ladies, no need to go out for at lease a couple weeks !
if there’s no loss of strength, and it hurts, it has to be muscular. that just makes common sense to me….but who knows.
As Joba said “Life is too short to worry…”
Dr Erin Andrews. So hot. I wish she were in texas doing the game. YES should hire her.
“I do agree that some of the women here know more about the game than half the guys here. Not more than me off coarse.â€
“Luckily the ladies know more grammar than you. “off coarse†LOL.’
But Boxy. Thats how i spelled it. I triple checked it. And yes, mel and others do correct me often. Actually recently they have just accepted it.
Gordo is there a reason why you are a condescending dbag?
thanks mark for ruining my night with those facts.
Eh, don’t worry Jorge. Calling everyone “guys” isn’t a sexist act in my mind, i’m guilty of it too, lol.
Its tame, compared to some of the stupid posts here at the moment, thats for sure.
I respect everyone’s opinion, of course….however, I don’t see why one would be happy to see another team’s player injured.
I’ve always been of the mindset that I would much rather have a Red Sox player/prospect fizzle out as a prospect rather than hurt themselves and not live up to their full potential.
In other words, I’d love it much more if Buchholz never makes it as a big-league pitcher just based on his own ability than have him not make it based on a stupid injury that derailed his career.
As for Wagner, I just don’t really care – Mets mean little to me. I’ve always said that as long as the Mets don’t win four World Series games, I don’t care what else they do. It has little effect on the Yankees, afterall.
Have any of you even read the article? The article actually sounds optimistic. Jesus christ.
Okay, she’s attractive and all, but Erin Andrews is not quite deserving of all this attention, is she?
“the happiest guy today is ponson”
They’ve put Rolling Rock in the water coolers?!
Yeah, I’m not too into Erin Andrews either. Don’t really get it.
The last time Joba saw Andrews, she rolled her eyes with the camera rolling.
I have no clue what the visit to Dr. Andrews says or doesn’t say. All I know is that the “everyone sees Dr. Andrews” POV is absolutely true, considering they even used to claim it when someone was injured in pro wrestling back when they still tried to hide it was fake.
“Road Warrior Animal’s going to have to see Dr. James Andrews about that elbow….”
“and with hughes 3 weeks away ”
Hughes is on an 80 pitch pitch-count his next start at SWB.
He could come up the following start (or actually they brought up Joba earlier than that).
“Eh, don’t worry Jorge. Calling everyone “guys†isn’t a sexist act in my mind, i’m guilty of it too, lol.
Its tame, compared to some of the stupid posts here at the moment, thats for sure.”
I manage an all-female staff. I still say “guys” half the time and call them “dude” way too much.
Like I said, I married a smart cookie with a nose ring. I know better.
Patrick â„¢
August 5th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
“Gordo is there a reason why you are a condescending dbag?”
Yes.
Because he’s also a simpering sycophant, Patrick. See?
Gordo
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Trisha. Do not listen to the negative defeatists like SJ44. This game proves that.
Dan Graziano: Loss of Joba Chamberlain wouldn’t doom Yankees’ playoff chances
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/graziano/index.ssf/2008/08/loss_of_joba_chamberlain_would.html
“Think of it this way. Even if he’s fully healthy and returns in five days, Chamberlain’s only going to make what? 10 more starts for the Yankees this year? They’re 8-4 in the 12 starts he’s made so far, so let’s say for the sake of argument that they’d go 7-3 in the remaining 10 if he made them. Given their schedule, that’s probably pretty generous, but let’s just go there for the sake of argument.
So if he’s out for the year, who replaces him? Darrell Rasner? Ian Kennedy? Phil Hughes? Carl Pavano? If it’s any one or any combination of those guys, what’s the worst you can expect the Yankees to do in the 10 starts they spend filling in for Joba? I’m going to say 5-5, worst. The Yankees are an above-.500 team with a strong offense and a strong bullpen. They’d find a way to patch it together.
So given those figures, the loss of Chamberlain for the remainder of the regular season would make the Yankees two games worse the rest of the way than they’d be with him making his regular turn. And that’s assuming the best for Chamberlain and the worst for his replacements.”
For all the Andrews-obsessed. Maybe this will close the book on the good Doctor. Wow, a member of the Dazzlers! LOL
Erin Andrews (born May 4, 1978 in Lewiston, Maine) is a television sports reporter.
Andrews joined ESPN in May 2004 as a reporter for the network’s National Hockey League coverage.[1] Since the 2004 season, Andrews has served as sideline reporter for the ESPN College Football Saturday telecast, the Saturday Primetime college basketball game and Big Ten college basketball coverage.[1] In 2005, she added Major League Baseball sideline reporting to her duties. She also provides reports and features on Great Outdoor Games coverage. She also covers Men’s college baseball, and is a familiar sight during the College World Series.
In 2007, she was voted “America’s Sexiest Sportscaster” by Playboy Magazine. [2]
Andrews graduated from the University of Florida with a degree in telecommunications in 2000. While there she was a member of the Zeta Tau Alpha sorority.[3] Andrews was also a member of the Dazzlers, the Gator basketball dance team, from 1997–2000.[1]
She began her career with her FSN Florida as a freelance reporter from 2000–01 before serving as a Tampa Bay Lightning reporter for the Sunshine Network from 2001–02.[1] Andrews then worked as a studio host for Turner Sports from 2002–2004, covering the Atlanta Braves and college football for TBS and Atlanta Thrashers and Atlanta Hawks for Turner South.[1]
She is represented by the sports agency Career Sports & Entertainment in Atlanta, GA. [1]
Seriously, if people think the season is over already, why bother watching?
Gordo’s posts are especially amusing considering that this is the first time I’ve posted on here today. I have a job that keeps me fairly busy during business hours and I don’t have time to post during the day.
I say “guys” all the time. It’s a product of being from Jersey, not anything sexist.
Though of course I’m a woman, so I obviously don’t know anything.
This is just weird:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Rick-Sutcliffe-is-concerned-for-Erin-Andrews-sk?urn=mlb,87572
“Okay, she’s attractive and all, but Erin Andrews is not quite deserving of all this attention, is she?”
Theres not much to compare her to. I think they should go to Nascar(havnt watched one race in my life)and grab some of those women drivers. Like that girl that was getting in a cat fight with the popular race car girl.
Does anybody know if Milton Bradley is in the starting lineup tonight?
This is probably good news regarding Joba.
There was no doubt he was going to see a shoulder specialist and that it was probably going to be James Andrews.
Over the course of his career Joba could be worth $500M to the yankees. They are not going to take any chances with him.
The more encouraging part of this is that the story was actually leaked now.
This story was leaked to the Post by the Yankees. The fact that he’s going for another opinion isn’t really the thing you want to know. What really matters is what the MRI showed. If his rotator cuff and labrum are ok then its fine.
With the way the yankees are on injuries I don’t see them letting this story leak unless they knew the MRI looked OK. If the MRI looked bad and he had to go for an evaluation on surgery I doubt the yankees let this story leak.
Leaking this story is their way of saying that they are going to do this medical evaluation in their own way and that it’s going to take some time. They are going to wait to get multiple medical opinions and then make a decision on what to do with Joba.
Just a guess but the yankees are so good with controlling information leaks like this don’t make it to the press unless the front office wants them to.
Now that I know Erin was a Dazzler in college, my whole outlook has changed!
“Seriously, if people think the season is over already, why bother watching?”
I wonder what the over/under is on what percentage of those posts are pure troll.
For those that aren’t, how exactly did you survive the late 80’s and early 90’s, other than switching to a Mets cap?
Selene Steele = wayyyyy hotter than Erin Andrews
CB: I hope so.
You said yesteday what I think is still the best sign: no loss of strength or velocity. It sounds muscular, and it doesn’t sound like it’s hurting so much that it’s serious.
Dr. Andrews is not the Yankees primary ortho. That means, he’s giving a second opinion on what the MRI found today.
Its probably been requested by Joba’s side (ie: Joba and his agents) to seek his opinion. They have used Dr. Andrews in the past for their clients often.
What we know is the following:
1. Its not a “cramp” as some hoped/believed on this blog this morning.
2. They found something in there. If not, no need for another opinion.
The seriousness of it? Who knows at this point. It is significant enough though to seek a second opinion.
Hopefully, its something that can be rehabbed without surgery.
Contrary to popular belief, Dr. Andrews is known for using surgery as a last, not first, resort.
Hopefully, that’s the case here.
Good point, Jorge. The entire period 1982 – 1994 was no joy ride. Nor were the early 70s.
Okay, as the picky female of the blog I’m going to put an end to this.
Erin Andrews is a very attractive woman. She doesn’t dress inappropriately nor flirt from what I can tell. She tries very hard to be a professional and should be taken seriously.
As long as you’re not a colleague or athlete, feel free to comment as you please. Just remember Pete’s rules. This is a family place.
the deltoid is not the shoulder. IF joba is headed to see dr. andrews, it means the MRI most likely revealed some shoulder damage, which is not good. i can’t remember the last time somebody went to see andrews over a minor deltoid injury.
so, IF that’s true, it belongs in the “not great news” category.
“The entire period 1982 – 1994 was no joy ride”
Or as I like to call it the “Bucky/Stump/Buck” era.
“Though of course I’m a woman, so I obviously don’t know anything.”
Well, you’re in good company, at least. There is a lot of us “don’t know anything” women on this blog.
Chamberlain had an MRI today in New York. The Yankees would not reveal what it showed. However, Joba is being sent to Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., for another examination tomorrow.
Oh good lord…This is very, very bad news.
SJ makes a very good point. Joba is represented by the Hendricks brothers. They’re also agents of Clemens and Pettite.
Andrews scoped Clemens shoulder in 1985 (found nothing) and repaired Pettite’s elbow in 2004.
I’d guess they have a good relationship with him. Joba is now one of their premier clients.
This was never a cramp. The muscles in your arm rarely cramp from the heat – at least not before your legs will as the muscles are so much larger there.
Hopefully this is just precautionary. There was no doubt something was wrong and that Joba was going to get a slew of medical opinions.
The Yankees not revealing what it shows makes me very, very nervous.
Kennedy is not up yet for a reason. He is not there mentally and the team will not throw him into the fire. That is why he was sent down. His injury was his mind. He wasn’t handling his taste of failure well. A lot of rookies go thru it.
They won’t mess with his development because of a need. No matter how well he’s throwing.
“Oh good lord…This is very, very bad news.”
Is it?
Wow, when I don’t know anything, I really don’t know anything. No half-hearted ignorance effort on my part.
CB,
the fact that the yankees aren’t revealing the results of the MRI does not speak to it being clean.
Has there ever been a single lineup in the history of lineups that you people havent bitched and moaned about?
Didnt the Yankees once make the playoffs with Aaron Small and Chacon in the rotation after their young sinker baller pitcher injured his shoulder.
Al from BK, shouldnt you quit watching the team now since you are so sure they aren’t making the playoffs
Guys should be banned for constantly bringing up Erin Andrews. I literally see hundreds of women 10 times hotter than she is on a daily basis just going to and from work everyday in NYC.
Oh good grief, now its impersonating me again. *rolls eyes*
So pathetic.
“The seriousness of it? Who knows at this point. It is significant enough though to seek a second opinion. ”
That’s probably the least educated thing I’ve ever seen you write. You’re ALWAYS supposed to get a second opinion on ANY health matter.
Like someone said before, it doesn’t matter what the MRI showed, you don’t take a chance on a $500 million commodity, you get a second opinion, and you get another opinion after that.
What if they found nothing, he starts playing, and they realize there WAS an injury? That’s why you get second opinions.
The fact that they are getting a second opinion shows absolutely nothing on the severity of the injury or if they even found anything.
Joba going to alabama cant be good news. Obviously something showed up on the MRI. Dr Andrews is Dr Death as far as I’m concerned. I’ve got a bad feeling about this one. IPK on Sat?
“IF joba is headed to see dr. andrews, it means the MRI most likely revealed some shoulder damage, which is not good.”
No that’s not true. Andrews is a sports medicine specialist who sees a wide variety of orthopedic complaints – he’s done a seen NBA, NFL, and MLB players for knee, ankel, hip and achilles problems.
Any injury to a muscle is a sports injury that is going to be evaluated by an orthopedic surgeon specializing in sports medicine.
Andrews is considered amongst the best. That’s why Joba is seeing him.
He does far more than simply operate on shoulders.
DFox – exactly. The speculation on this topic is borderline insane.
CB, dude, i guess you mean, by “good”, that’s it’s not career threatening.
The last two times the Yankees sent starting pitchers to Andrews that I can recall off the top of my head were (1) Wang in 2005 (he was out for two months, although they’d feared worse at first); and (2) Pavano last year.
(Posada saw him as well before or after Altcheck. We all know how that turned out.)
I can’t fathom they would send him to Andrews and still pitch him again this season.
this is terrible news. if joba isn’t at 100 percent the yankees have to sit him and wait until he is. bring hughes and kennedy back up and use them as one pitcher.
I have a bad feeling, but I hope I’m wrong. No point in speculating all night over what it is.
Anything with the shoulder isn’t good for a pitcher.
He’s thrown his last pitch this year for sure.
let’s hope he needs rehab and not surgery.
It’s not that Joba’s seeing Dr. Andrews that bothers me, it’s that the Yankees won’t reveal what was on the MRI.
Back to Jorge’s point, we even somehow managed to survive the lean years without instantaneous access to information. Actually, it was kind of like radio versus TV. Information wasn’t perfect, but the experience was no less rich.
CB,
true, and an excellent point. what i’m saying is, this is more than a cramp or a strain, in all likelihood. i can’t recall the last time somebody saw andrews for a strained delt.
looks like we won’t know anything until tomorrow at the earliest, and probably not even then. jobagate continues.
Isn’t Giese starting on Friday?
Did Pete mean to say Saturday?
This year has really been unbelievable. We lose Posada for the whole year, Matsui and Wang for most of it, A-Rod for a month, and now Joba.
Why can’t the Melkys and the Gardners and the Richie Sexsons of the team get hit with the year-ending injuries instead???
The MRI def caught something.
He’s def out of action for this season.
He’s not even technically a shoulder specialist, is he? He’s sports medicine specialist who happens to be an orthopedic surgeon.
And I’d always get a second opinion – on anything. My MIL died of cervical cancer because she didn’t get a second opinion.
Well, after all of the hype and coddling of Joba, it would be highly ironic if this is serious.
I wouldn’t reveal it either, not if they’re waiting for a second opinion.
I wonder if its Joba’s mechanics that are causing the shoulder strain? Drivelinemechanics.com did say that he was late at footstrike, and he was bringing his arm through the horizontal plane too late for comfort. I imagine that would cause unneeded stress on the shoulder(?) I wonder if a mechanical adjustment is necessary for Joba.
“the fact that the yankees aren’t revealing the results of the MRI does not speak to it being clean.”
Kasey,
We knew there was something wrong – even if it was “only” a muscle strain in his deltoid. This was never a cramp.
The yankees rarely reveal the results of test before they are ready to.
And in the situation where a player is obtaining a second opinion – an opinion he may have requested himself – it would actually be completely innapropriate to release the results of the test before that second opinion.
A big part of Joba’s exam with Andrews will be Andrews looking at Joba’s MRI himself. Until Andrews reads that MRI it’s just not appropriate to release the readings from the doctors at Columbia, Hirschorn, or whatever doctor the yankees had look at the MRI.
The yankees are very close to the vest with information on injuries we all know that. They let this information leak on purpose. I don’t think they let it leak if their initial readings from the MRI were bad.
They don’t send “cramps” to see Dr not Erin Andrews.
link here:
http://drivelinemechanics.com/2008/04/10/pitching-mechanics-joba-chamberlain/
and here, when they say he does not form the inverted W/L:
http://drivelinemechanics.com/2008/05/14/pitching-mechanics-redux-joba-chamberlain/
I will hold judgement on Joba’s fate to they tell me.. I will not try to act like a Dr. since I am not one.. Maybe the Hendricks boys just want to protect there investment just like the Yanks…
“Dan Graziano: Loss of Joba Chamberlain wouldn’t doom Yankees’ playoff chances”
Pretty sure I said the same thing last night.
S.O.S. – No cats, but the birds and squirrels who now think my back deck is a wild life refuge play me like a fiddle!
(The amount of wild bird feed that I go through in a week gives a totally different meaning to the saying “eats like a bird!”)
“The MRI def caught something.
He’s def out of action for this season.”
This diagnosis today was brought you by the letters M and D.
“Well, after all of the hype and coddling of Joba, it would be highly ironic if this is serious.”
Yes. It would be.
A 2nd opinion is always needed…I didn’t expect Joba to NOT have a 2nd opinion. I’d probably feel less comfy if he didn’t, unless they were 1000% certain.
i tried posting the links to the analysis of joba’s mechanics…not sure if it worked. if you prefer, go to drivelinemechanics dot com and do a search for joba. the first two pieces that come up are very informative – tell you all about his tempo, arm action, footstrike, and whether he forms an inverted W/L.
How is it acting like a doctor? He has a shoulder problem. The MRI def caught something otherwise why would they send him to a doctor in Alabama who is renowned for elbows and shoulders?
Use some common sense. You don’t need seven years of med school.
“Andrews scoped Clemens shoulder in 1985 (found nothing) and repaired Pettite’s elbow in 2004.”
with or without PEDs, that guy went on to win a few ball games…
I’ve been to see an orthopedic surgeon for something as simple as calf cramps. my leg wasn’t amputated.
CB: if Joba is headed to alabama. Then the yankees had no choice. They had to leak it.
Fact: the Yankees won more games in the 1980’s than any other MLB franchise.
IMO, i wouldnt plan on seeing Joba for a month.
thans an arbitrary deadline, yeah, but if they are sending him for a 2nd opinion, there needs to be a potential for a differing opinion on something.
they arent going to push him to come back and take a chance on his career. i actually wouldnt be surprised if it was minor, and they still held him out for the rest of the season.
time to watch Hughes’s start in Scranton even more closely.
“i guess you mean, by “goodâ€, that’s it’s not career threatening.”
KS,
Honestly, at this point I’m not even 5% concerned about whether or not Joba misses the rest of this season.
The only thing I care about right now is whether or not this injury could be in any way career threatening. Until we know that I’m not too focused on losing him for this season.
His shoulder dwarfs this season. It will be painful if he can’t pitch this year – but that’s baseball.
If he can’t pitch again the way we’ve seen him perform – that’s a small tragedy. That’s something the franchise will not fully recover from. They can make up for it by they can’t ever just make it a non-issue.
So by “good” yes I mean it’s non-career threatening.
Until we know that, IMO this season is very much an afterthought.
“Dan Graziano: Loss of Joba Chamberlain wouldn’t doom Yankees’ playoff chancesâ€
Pretty sure I said the same thing last night.
You should be writing for the Star Ledger!!
Pat yourself on the back.
bad news
i probably agree w/ vinny-b on that one.
reporter: is joba in NY?
girardi: no he is not.
reporter: is he back with the team?
girardi: no he is not
reporter: where is he?
girardi: i can’t tell you that, joel.
headline of NY post tomorrow?
JOBA MISSING!!!
He’s not pitching again this season. I think everyone should come to grips with that fact now.
He’s not the nail in the season’s coffin. He will be if they do make the playoffs though. Because they certainly don’t have the SP to win a playoff series.
“Fact: the Yankees won more games in the 1980’s than any other MLB franchise.”
Fact: You don’t remember the 1980s.
CB,
i don’t think the yanks would have been able to sneak chamberlain off to alabama to see andrews. they really had no choice but to “leak” the information.
hopefully you’re right. however, no real news plus a trip to dr andrews is not a “best case” scenario.
“otherwise why would they send him to a doctor in Alabama who is renowned for elbows and shoulders?”
What’s so difficult to understand? He is extremely valuable to them, even if the MRI showed NOTHING, how can you put him on the mound in 10 days based on 1 doctors opinion? If he actually had an injury, they wouldn’t be able to live with themselves. That’s why you send him to Andrews, to make sure it isn’t anything like that. Either way, if showed something, if it showed nothing, you have to send him to Andrews.
Too bad about Joba. Looks like we finally got our own Mark Prior.
“if Joba is headed to alabama. Then the yankees had no choice. They had to leak it.”
Players get second opinions from Andrews frequently without anyone knowing or only knowing after his examination.
They wouldn’t necessarily need to leak that just because he’s going to Alabama.
lol im waiting for the people to start saying, ” See it was a bad move to put in the rotation”.haha
Anybody with half a brain would seek a second or third opinion on a health issue that affects their livelihood. Joba and the Yankees would be irresponsible if they did anything less.
“He’s not pitching again this season. I think everyone should come to grips with that fact now.”
Look if it helps you somehow to believe this, then you should go right ahead.
But telling other people what they should do – well I’m afraid thats not your choice to make. I prefer to wait and see.
hopefully Joba doesn’t need surgery and it is just a thing like papelbon had to go through in 2006….just shut him down for the season, strengthen like hell in the offseason, and they are fine the next year…add a healthy Joba to the mix (fingers crossed) and you get something like this
Wang
Pettitte (resigned)
Joba
Hughes
Kennedy
Go yanks
Not true DFox.
Not every injury suffered by a player requires a second opinion.
Dr. Andrews is not the Yankees chief ortho. He is the guy the Hendricks Brothers use for their clients.
The Yankees are very good about players seeing their own doctor. For example, Posada wanted Altcheck to not only examine him but do his surgery. Some teams insist you use their doctor. The Yankees don’t operate that way.
Clearly, the MRI showed some type of damage in the shoulder. If it didn’t, or if it was just a deltoid strain, he wouldn’t be going to see Dr. Andrews.
It doesn’t mean its serious or that he needs surgery.
Two years ago, Jonathan Papelbon walked off the mound holding his shoulder against the Yankees in that 5 game series. Everybody thought the worst.
He was diagnosed with a shoulder injury that was brought on by fatigue and underwent an aggressive, non-surgical rehab program.
Obviously, the MRI showed something significant enough to warrant Andrews looking at the results.
Like I said, it doesn’t mean its serious. But, it does mean its something. We just don’t know the severity of the injury yet.
Don’t live in denial, DFox. The MRI def showed something. Even Pete says so and who knows the team better?
Andrews will take a second look and reco the treatment. Hopefully, it will be rest and rehab. Surgery would knock him out til 2010.
the posts, hysteria, and couch Dr.s are amazing. As D fox just posted the yanks and JOba and the Hendricks need a 2nd opinion regardless if it is nothing or serious.. The guy is a potential superstar and needs to be handled correctly. If you have not noticed pitching and injuries are 1 in the same……..
Wouldn’t it be funny if a rotation of Mussina, Pettitte, Hughes, Ponson/Pavano, and Rasner/Giese suddenly goes on a surge and leads us to the playoffs and an upset of the Angels in round one?
“If he can’t pitch again the way we’ve seen him perform – that’s a small tragedy. That’s something the franchise will not fully recover from. They can make up for it by they can’t ever just make it a non-issue.”
I agree.
There’s probably some short-sighted folks out there who think we just go out and sign two pitchers instead of one this offseason, and all will be fine. Those folks would be missing one big point.
I think it would have a severe impact on how this franchise views player development. That would be sad indeed, as what this franchise is still in the infancy of accomplishing development-wise could be special indeed.
My homer predictions of today are arod and nady. Yesterday i was 1 for 3 in my predictions.
hopefully it is something like…they saw something minor, and they are checking with the real professional to make sure it is nothing serious
reno – not an entirely apt comparison, even if joba turns out to be a bust like prior. joba’s mechanical problems aren’t even close to being as bad as priors.
thank you for the update on Joba, Pete. i was about to have a coronary.
I don’t want to see him again this year if he has a shoulder issue. You really should come to grips with it now Angel.
Whoever brought up Papelbon is spot on.
Joba may have to go to the bullpen after all. Ironic.
“Wouldn’t it be funny if a rotation of Mussina, Pettitte, Hughes, Ponson/Pavano, and Rasner/Giese suddenly goes on a surge and leads us to the playoffs and an upset of the Angels in round one?”
why not? it’s called banding together and overcoming the odds. it’s what you wish every team did.
Just had to get in on the discussioon concerning the female posters on this blog. I really think that there are more women posters that you realize here. I can call myself anything, but you have no idea who I really am!
As for the female posters that we DO know, most of them offer very intelligent baseball talk. I have also noticed that MOST of the posters who are ready to jump off the bridge at every set back for the Yankees this year are usually men.
That said, if you have a problem communicating with women in anything but coarse, suggestive language, you are really a LOSER!
I tip my hat to the ladies and GENTLEMEN of this blog. It’s a great place to catch up on Yankees news (Pete’s posts) and to hear MOSTLY intelligent baseball talk!
And thanks again to SJ for calming the waters yet again with some sense!
Go Yankees!
See you in ‘09, Joba.
Why is everybody surpised Joba got hurt.Why do you think he wasn’t a first round draft pick.He’s weight and health issues (like 90% of our system) is why he fell to us.
Look at Hughes and Wang every year there in the DL.
SJ44 – what about a scenario where the Yankee doctor says nothing is structurally wrong and he just needs to miss a start – don’t you think the Hendricks might want to get a second opinion to protect their investment.. given that he’s making league minimum (or thereabout) and is years away from his big payday?
look it up Jorge Steinbrenner. you will be surprised, apparently. the yankees won more games in the 1980’s than any other team.
Pavano isn’t helping this team. No one in that locker room trusts him. He’s less respected than Igawa.
“look it up Jorge Steinbrenner. you will be surprised, apparently. the yankees won more games in the 1980’s than any other team.”
Terrific! And they had 1 World Series and playoff appearance. Awesome!
Winning games solves everything and the team would support Pavano if he showed up in the majors and gave them 6 to 7 innings a start for the stretch run.
Rebecca as a fellow female blogger THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
Joba news leaves me scared.
Come on Andy!
“Fact: You don’t remember the 1980s.”
The only thing I remember from the 80’s baseball years is Don Mattingly. Everything else I’ve managed to block out. I don’t remember 2004 either.
SJ, tell us how to live tonight with this news? Thank you.
I gotta agree with DFox at least some what.
If I was the Hendricks, and the MRI showed nothing, I would still want Joba to go see Dr. Andrews. Why risk the future of my client without getting a second opinion and making sure he isn’t hurt?, if that is what the MRI showed.
Has Austin Jackson shifted from CF to LF for any particular reason?
“Clearly, the MRI showed some type of damage in the shoulder. If it didn’t, or if it was just a deltoid strain, he wouldn’t be going to see Dr. Andrews.”
How do you know that? If it showed nothing, how can you put him out on the mound 5 or 10 days from now? Roll the dice and hope doctor #1 of 1 who examined him didn’t miss anything? That’s not a very smart tactic.
Peabody, you’re either a complete idiot or you should be in the medical industry for a living. You can diagnose people based on what you see on TV and what doctors they are sent to. You’ll be so rich it won’t even be fair! Dr. Andrews better watch out because Peabody is the new up and coming specialist in the sports industry.
wading throught the 200 posts today was very interseting..
My opinion: I dislike Dr. Andrews, i have worked with him and sent athletes to him. He is very conservative and it seems the people he operates on have trouble returning to action in a timely manner.
Now saying that: Andrews is widely renowned in the athletic world as the “shoulder guy”. I can see the yankees sending Joba to him, for a variety of reasons…they could include rehab options and/or surgery options.
I said this before and i’ll say it again, joba claimed he still had good velocity, when you have a rotator cuff issue or a labrum issue, you dont hear the guy saying i still had good velocity. You hear things like what jorge said “my arm feels dead” or “i just cant put anything on the throw”. I think this is either a muscular injury (a muscle strain is a tear in the muscle, it just varies by degrees)or a tendonitis of the biceps tendon.
To the person who said ” the deltoid is not the shoulder” get out an anatomy book. The deltoids, both the anterior and posterier deltoid are very much the muscles that make up the shoulder. As well as the biceps tendon, the rotator cuff, the shoulder capsule, the traps and the AC joint tendons.
“Pavano isn’t helping this team. No one in that locker room trusts him. He’s less respected than Igawa.”
No doubt. I bet you even Jeter would be hard pressed to find something nice to say about Pavano. And Jeter speaks well of everyone.
Look, there’s no way the MRI showed NOTHING. Maybe it showed a minor strain, whatever. But you don’t have a “pop”, shoulder pain, an MRI, and then a flight to see Dr. James Andrews of Birmingham, AL, and have an MRI with nothing on it.
I would love it if that was the case, but I’ll send everyone reading this comment a dollar if there was nothing on his MRI.
“look it up Jorge Steinbrenner. you will be surprised, apparently. the yankees won more games in the 1980’s than any other team.”
you have to be 12. there’s simply no excuse for a comment this stupid.
they won a lot of games, but not ONE AL East title between 1981 and 1994. trust me, i can look it up in a million places…..and i think back and remember it as well.
there was this time, a long time ago, back when you only carried an album’s worth of music in your pocket at time, when there wasn’t this thing called a “Wild Card.”
what the LoHud blog have looked like then…..as some BBS service on Compuserve?
A riveting Bartolo Colon vs. Kei Igawa pitching matchup about to get underway in Scranton tonight.
Hey Machinist: The Yankees of the 80s had a great offense, but couldn’t pitch to save themselves. They regularly missed the playoffs by small margins, because they couldn’t slug their way to first. It was painful to watch Rickey, Winfield, and Mattingly hit like crazy but go home every October.
“This diagnosis today was brought you by the letters M and D.”
Angel
Thanks for the chuckle.
” It’s getting late early “
“SJ44 – what about a scenario where the Yankee doctor says nothing is structurally wrong and he just needs to miss a start – don’t you think the Hendricks might want to get a second opinion to protect their investment.. given that he’s making league minimum (or thereabout) and is years away from his big payday?”
WELL said. A scenario like that would also explain why Cashman didn’t want to say anything yet before sending him there, just to make sure the initial diagnoses was correct and there was no damage.
Not saying that that is definitely what it is, but if people can say they found something, it’s just as easy to argue that they didn’t find anything. All speculation.
“The only thing I remember from the 80’s baseball years is Don Mattingly. Everything else I’ve managed to block out.”
As president of the “Roy Smalley Fan Club” I am devestated.
word. Joba’s long-term health, is only what matters.
I would sacrifice a nyy 2008 world championship, for the safety of joba’s career. As most of you, prolly would.
“Peabody, you’re either a complete idiot or you should be in the medical industry for a living.”
DFox, why are you so quick to call people idiots? According to you, everyone who doesn’t agree with you is an idiot.
I have a feeling that if you were talking to us in person, you’d choose your words more wisely.
“Has Austin Jackson shifted from CF to LF for any particular reason?”
to make consipracy theorists think he’ll be called up to play in the pinstripes for the stretch run this year.
Kennedy was picked ahead of Joba for a reason. Time for him to prove it.
Whatever happens, you still have to play the game.
“Terrific! And they had 1 World Series and playoff appearance. Awesome!”
Sure, but they still were generally a decent team. It’s not the trainwreck people think it was. That would be 1989-1992. That was a trainwreck.
The Yankees had 97 wins in 1985. They had 90 wins in 1986. They had 89 wins in 1987. They had 91 wins in 1984. They had 87 wins in 1984. These teams were good teams, just not the best. But alas there was no wild card back then.
So let’s end this mtyh that the 1980’s Yankees were the most godawful teams of all time. The yankees won more games in the 1980’s than any other team in abseball. That is pretty good.
Smalley could hit a bit. In the field, however, he made Giambi look like Jim Spencer.
“As president of the “Roy Smalley Fan Club†I am devestated.”
Roy Smalley has a Fan club?
So how much of a chance does everyone think Wang Joba and Hughes will be in the starting rotation on opening day next year? I’ll say about a 3 % chance.
No one said they were godawful. But they were frustrating, because they couldn’t pitch. Guess you had to be there to understand.
“Kennedy was picked ahead of Joba for a reason”
either that. Or an over-draft.
Michelle thanks for the great post.. WOW you sound like you know what you are talking about to me…
“Roy Smalley has a Fan club?”
Sure – next you’ll be telling me you never heard of the “Steve Kemp Appreciation Society”!
“DFox, why are you so quick to call people idiots? According to you, everyone who doesn’t agree with you is an idiot.
I have a feeling that if you were talking to us in person, you’d choose your words more wisely.”
Because anyone who can offer a 100% diagnoses on him, like he’s out for the season, based on the information we have, has to not be thinking 100% straight.
And you act like such a big shot and like you’re so important, because your posts must be more important that everyone else’s being that your name should be bolded with a fake site so your posts stand out. You should be banned for doing that if you don’t have a real site. It’s blatant post whoring.
“As president of the “Roy Smalley Fan Club†I am devestated.”
as i’m on Baseball Almanac right now, here’s some great names to remember…
Marty Bystrom
Bryan Dayett
Joe Cowley
Vic Mata
Alfonso Pulido
Paul “0 for his first 40″ Zuvella
Kevin Mmahat
Jimmy Jones
Torey Lovullo
and, of course, the entire ‘91 pitching, just awesome in the glorious suckitude
“No one said they were godawful. But they were frustrating, because they couldn’t pitch. Guess you had to be there to understand.”
I was there. I do understand they were frustrating to root for. But I think people overreact way too much about these 80’s teams being failures. They were good teams, but not the best teams.
“Joe Cowley”
Ah yes – million dollar arm but a 10 cents brain…
Ortiz and Lowell are both in the lineup today.
“I was there. I do understand they were frustrating to root for. But I think people overreact way too much about these 80’s teams being failures. They were good teams, but not the best teams.”
i never said they were bad teams. what i asked is what the hell the “i don’t know what i’ll do with myself if we don’t make the playoffs this year” crowd did back then, other than wear Met hats in ‘86.
I’ll tell you how I know that.
If it was something, say a minor strain, the Yankees could have put out the following release:
“The MRI given to Joba Chamberlain showed a minor strain of the shoulder. He is now en route to Alabama to see Dr. James Andrews to receive a second opinion”.
Go back and look at the statements they issued when Jeter got drilled by Cabrera. They couldn’t wait to put a release out saying his X-Rays were negative. Jeter never went for a second opinion on his hand. He was in the lineup the next day.
If the MRI showed good news (”good” meaning an insignificant injury), the Yankees would have been front and center with that news. They won’t talk about the MRI. I’m not being a conspiracy theorist. That just tells me something showed up on the MRI that requires a second opinion and they aren’t talking until they get it.
“Even though I expect it, I still hope it’s not career ending for Joba.”
Jumping the gun there a bit methinks.
Were they fun to watch in the late 80s? Yes, if you like offense. It seemed that Rickey would get on base and score almost every first inning. However, pitching-wise, the only highlight that sticks in my head was Niekro’s 300th win on the last weekend in Toronto. And I also remember Seaver painfully winning his 300th against the Yanks at the Stadium.
What is the deal with Erin Andrews? She is slightly attractive, but that’s it.
The more important issue is why is she doing sideline reporting? She is average to poor at best. I would prefer Suzan Waldman to her. At least Suzan has knowledge of the game. But, of course, Suzan isn’t “hot” like Erin. At least that’s how ESPN sees it.
Even with Joba the Yanks are not making the playoffs this year, and if sitting Joba for the remainder of the year to rest and rehab his shoulder for next year is called for, then do it. He and Hughes are valuable keys to the Yankees future success. You don’t mess with that on the whim that we might make the playoffs this year.
“they won a lot of games, but not ONE AL East title between 1981 and 1994.”
You are way out of line. I merely stated a fact, that the Yanks of the 80’s won more games than any other team. It is a fact, it cannot be disputed. I didn’t follow that up with any other comment. For example, I didn’t say “this negates the lack of world championships” or anything along those lines. I simply stated that they won more games than any other team. And then you go off on a tangent about how I must not rmember the 80’s and have stupid comments. I stated a fact, without any kind of analysis. You need to calm down buddy.
career ending ? BoSux trolls need to crawl away and die slowly…as in NOW !
Next, someone is going to bring up Walt “No Neck” Williams from the 70s.
“…highlight that sticks in my head was Niekro’s 300th win on the last weekend in Toronto.”
I remember that too… ironically I think Neikro only threw a couple of knuckle balls – the rest were curves and fastballs (yes – fastballs)…
Look at the 80s Yanks this way – Shane Rawley was consider a top starter… Shane f’n Rawley!
this is no good
“And you act like such a big shot and like you’re so important, because your posts must be more important that everyone else’s being that your name should be bolded with a fake site so your posts stand out. You should be banned for doing that if you don’t have a real site. It’s blatant post whoring.”
?????????? wha?????
“career ending ? BoSux trolls need to crawl away and die slowly…as in NOW !”
major shoulder injuries, are career ending. Doesn’t take a troll, to post that.
hopefully, it is not major.
“If it was something, say a minor strain, the Yankees could have put out the following release:”
Again, you keep speculating. What would happen if they make that release, and Andrews happens to find something? Why would you mis-inform everyone to give them the news 1 day earlier? Does it harm the Yankees at all of we don’t know what’s up with him for 24 more hours? I doubt it. But it would harm them if they gave good news and then after Andrews looked at him they had to chance that news to something bad…
And Jeter’s was a bone injury if anything, which is a terrible comparison. Here you’re talking about a complex shoulder which can have a heap of injuries and can end a pitchers career.
Actually one of the most calming feelings, believe it or not, is knowing that I don’t have a clue about what’s going on with Joba and will just have to wait until the Yankees are ready to make an announcement. I don’t bother driving myself crazy with trying to figure out which iteration out of the hundreds put foward here might be the correct – if any indeed are! We’ll find out what we find out in due time.
Meantime, we have some games to win!
GO YANKEES!
“I stated a fact, without any kind of analysis.”
…and what purpose would there be in stating that fact, considering the thread that preceded it? spare me.
Whatever is going on with Joba(dear god, please nothing too bad), they still have play the game tonight. Hopefully we can get a win.
Yankees offense-Be awake! Go Yanks!
Oh, one other thing, if Pavano so much as gets within 10 ft. of a major league mound for the Yankees, I’m coming through this computer screen to personally strangle Joe Girardi.
That is all -
“And you act like such a big shot and like you’re so important, because your posts must be more important that everyone else’s being that your name should be bolded with a fake site so your posts stand out. You should be banned for doing that if you don’t have a real site. It’s blatant post whoring.”
Wow. I had no idea that I had made such an impression on you. I act like I’m a big shot? I’m getting the feeling that you are a very young person. You have to be if you think I’m acting like a big shot. I keep forgetting that ANYONE can post here; even children or adults who act like children. I’ll have to make a mental note of that.
“?????????? wha?????”
I was under the impression that the “Website” field was for people who have a WEBSITE so they could link to it. I didn’t think it was for random text for people who wanted to make their names bold. I mean why else would you enter a non-existent website in the website field?
While his season is in jeopardy, Andrews has saved many a career. Certainly someone as young as Joba can come back even from a major injury.
SJ44 as much i agree with you, that the yanks could have said ” the mri revealed a muscle strain”its not the same standards as with Jeter’s hand. X-rays are usually cut and dry, its very easy to see a fx in a bone- its either there or its not. Because an MRI works off of magnetic images, sometimes, its not so cut and dry. Things like swelling can sometimes give false positives. Its probably in the best interest of the ynaks to send Joba to a renowned shoulder specialist for a 2nd opinion before they make a public statement and have to eat crow about it.
ZMann, were you more frustrated with the mid 80’s teams that were so close to making the playoffs, or the 1990-1992 teams that had no chance at all? I think the reason we all remember the 80’s teams as being more frustrating is because if they just had some decent pitching they could have done some special things. The 1990-1992 teams were just plain awful and there was no drama about it. We knew they sucked.
So even though the 1980’s teams were very frutsrating at times, I would much rather endure that frutsration to watch a good team try to make the playoffs then watch an absolutely terrible team like the 1990 Yankees.
Or think about it like this. Would you rather the Yankees be on pace for 65 wins this year, or 88 wins? If they were on pace for 65 wins there is a good chance we wouldn’t care about a lot of the little things with as much passion, like having a back of the rotation of Ponson/Giese, because it wouldn’t really matter since the team wouldn’t be going anywehere anyway. But since they are on the fringe of being a playoff team, it makes all these little things mean so much more and every little decision riles us up a bit more when it doesn’t work out.
SJ44-
Not to be overly negative….
But you brought up Papelbon. Would the Yankees ever move Joba back to the bullpen if they thought that his arm couldn’t hold up long term being a starter? Maybe it is silly to talk about this now, but I suppose it could be an option if Joba had some serious rehab ahead of him.
Is this the worst season for injuries or what? A shame too as I feel like we’d be in a great spot had we not lost so many key guys. Can’t be sure we have what it takes to replace Joba. Someone is going to have the best 2 months of their career. Yanks lost too many stupid games this year. Too many soft spots in the lineup for too long. Lot of “too”’s going on here. here’s one more
It’s not too late for them to get in.
Pettite wins tonight.
IMarty Bystrom
Bryan Dayett
Joe Cowley
Vic Mata
Alfonso Pulido
Paul “0 for his first 40″ Zuvella
Kevin Mmahat
Jimmy Jones
Torey Lovullo
I just had an 80’s flashback.
Vic Mata is a Yankee scout now.
“And you act like such a big shot and like you’re so important, because your posts must be more important that everyone else’s being that your name should be bolded with a fake site so your posts stand out. You should be banned for doing that if you don’t have a real site. It’s blatant post whoring.â€
wow.
I really, really, in retrospect, love the ‘91 Yankees. I’m sure there’s a late 60’s/early 70’s equivalent, but it’s just like Clay Parker, Chuck Cary, and Jeff Johnson happened, and then were swallowed up by the earth and never seen again.
somehow, the earth managed to spit up Wade Taylor and Dave Eiland.
“…and what purpose would there be in stating that fact, considering the thread that preceded it? spare me.”
This is irrelevant. The bottom line is that I stated a fact, and you were out of line to jump all over me about it, when it was 100% true.
Keith Foulke went to see Andrews once and the Sox said he was off at a barbecue.
This injury is serious. If it was muscular and only required rest, they probably wouldn’t have sent him off. And if it was nothing, same deal (how many times do guys go get MRIs and that’s it? All the time). He won’t be back this season.
“I mean why else would you enter a non-existent website in the website field?”
Why does it matter one iota to you though?
I really dont get it.
Steve:
I disagree, a shoulder is so complex, mri’s arent always so telling and why not send him to get a 2nd opinion, just to make sure..whether its good or bad.
“Why does it matter one iota to you though?
I really dont get it.”
It wouldn’t matter to me if I didn’t have to look at your posts which stand out because your name is in bold. If everyone misused to website field, like you and Laura do, then the threads would be difficult to read. The only reason I can see anyone doing that is to get more attention. Is it that crazy of me to believe that the website field should be used by people who have websites? That seems like a more logical use for it than what you two use it for, making yourselves seem more important than everyone else…
Yanks will not take any chances with Joba-he will be shut down until next year.
Everybody, myself included predicted that Hughes would win 12-15 and Kennedy would be good for 10-12. Well they have a total of zero so far.
Huges and Kennedy need to step up big in the next six weeks. If they could each win 5-7 games down the stretch that wold be huge
DFox,
Read Pete’s 6:41 post. The Yankees KNOW the results of the MRI.
Andrews is not giving him another MRI. He is reviewing the pictures. In other words, he is there to confirm the original diagnosis. He can’t “find” anything unless he gives him another MRI. That’s most likely not going to happen. It didn’t happen when he reviewed Posada’s pictures when he visited Andrews. Andrews is reviewing most likely because the Hendricks Brothers requested he do so. That’s common industry practice with good agents and a team that doesn’t get upset when its players seek second opinions.
Hand injuries are tougher to diagnose than shoulder injuries. The career ending nature of the injuries has no bearing in reaching a diagnosis. Why? X-rays often don’t show some of the small bones that could be broken in a hand.
Shoulder MRI’s aren’t that complex. Its all muscle which show up quite easily on MRI’s.
The Yankees know exactly what’s wrong with Joba. They will have Andrews review the results, get together with him, and agree on a course of action.
They know the problem. They just aren’t interested in saying what it is right now. Not saying that’s a bad thing.
I’m just saying that the Yankees aren’t going to be shocked by what Andrews says after he examines Joba.
SJ44: you are wrong there dude. X-rays are more telling in the hand than anywhere else in the body. SHoulder MRI’s sometimes dont show squat. Swelling sometimes wreaks havoc on MRI results.
Okay.
I thought using the word whoring was out of line and remarkabely offensive, but you’ve shown your true colors today, so I’m no longer surprised.
I changed the website in my name anyways… just for you.
giardi kinda down playing the James Andrews visit.
let us hope, for the best.
Michelle,
What about the times X-Rays miss small bone fractures or breaks in the hand?
Several years ago, Albert Pujols got hit in the hand by a pitch. He underwent several X-Rays and none showed any breaks. Same thing happened on a couple of occasions to Jeff Bagwell in his career.
After two weeks of being in constant pain, Pujols went to see a hand specialist who found a small bone fracture in his hand.
Agreed, re: the swelling issue in shoulders. However, if his shoulder isn’t swollen, wouldn’t you say the MRI could give a pretty clear picture of what’s going on in there?
I’m not asking to be a jerk. I’m asking because I’m honestly seeking your opinion on this because I know you are in the medical field.
“The only reason I can see anyone doing that is to get more attention.”
If this were true (and it’s not), why do you care? I have the same question to the person who was complaining because Brandon’s name includes Jeter’s DP count. Why do you care? It’s not affecting your life. Since you have such a problem with me, I would think the bold would help you filter out my posts more. You should be thanking me, not complaining like a 5 year old over something that is totally innocent and insignificant.
“Swelling sometimes wreaks havoc on MRI results.”
and it does the same in xrays.
mri’s are the most accurate form of diagnostic imaging that physicians have.
“I changed the website in my name anyways… just for you.”
What a great website. LMAO!!!
I had three MRI’s on my shoulder in 8 months and none of them revealed the labrum tear and superspinatus tear i had. I just had some horrible dead arm and awful pain when i slept. It took 3 dr.s and arthroscopic surgery to finally find and repair the tears as well as rebuild my shoulder capsule.
So MRI’s arent always correct.
We need a little good news. Hideki took about 25 pitches of live BP in the cage today.
I was just about to post that, Michelle…
As most of you know I just had shoulder surgery (they did a bunch of stuff) and my 3 shoulder MRIs showed nothing. a CT showed a tumor that we were trying to get a better look at and when they finally went in, they found a bone spur, tear and impingement.
It was up to my doctor to realize that the MRI was not the ultimate decision-maker.
I don’t know what they may or may not have seen in the MRI, but if he is still in pain and the MRI came up clean, it is still better to go see the expert to make sure.
BTW – per my DR and PT, it is completely normal for an MRI to be clean and for there to be a problem…
I say the Yanks should tank in September, let all the vets rest up bring up AAA kids to do our bidding. Wait for the season to end and then put down the baffos to get CC. 09 is now officially the priority not 08.
Visiting Dr Andrews is never good. It’s too bad this happened, I was starting to think the Yankees had a chance to make some noise this year with their good bullpen and new acquisitions.
even RAB gets it:
“Joba’s MRI is heading to Dr. James Andrews for a second opinion, which sounds really bad, but anyone with half a brain understands that something like this gets second, third, and fourth opinions, plus the last pitch he threw yesterday registered 96, something you can’t do with a major shoulder issue.”
and, somehow, they didn’t blame this on Melky, which is a first for them.
Well, if it wasn’t before, it is now: season over. Let’s make moves with next year in mind. UGH. One of the crazier season’s in memory.
Andrews is the best orthopedist around he’ll know for sure what the course of action should be. IMO Joba should rest up for 09 he will likely be counted on for lots of innings best idea is to let him rehab it maybe toss some winter league and see you in the new ballpark.
“I say the Yanks should tank in September, let all the vets rest up bring up AAA kids to do our bidding. Wait for the season to end and then put down the baffos to get CC. 09 is now officially the priority not 08″
not a bad idea.
no need to rush the Jacksons and Melancons of this world, tho.
I actually have mine in bold, because the silly tosser who insists on impersonating me, it makes it just that little bit harder for them.
Jorge – we still blame Melky.
Surprised to see Papi in the lineup.
SJ44:yes, you are right, without swelling..you might be able to see a clear picture. Which i wasnt discounting. I remember the pujols injury and i think the dr’s said the fracture was thought to be seen on the first x ray but they werent sure and sent him for other xrays, which in turn revealed nothing, probably because of swelling. I think the hand specialist caught something on the first x ray and then had his own x rays taken and made the diagnosis.
MRI’s are great, cat/bone scans are better they reveal things with or with out swelling.
“and, somehow, they didn’t blame this on Melky, which is a first for them.”
i am not totally ready to exonerate Melky of all wrongdoing, however.
ok….all of you….off to bed.
No snack either…
No more Yankees until you learn to play nicely together.
I have to say, I’m both embarassed and shocked that Mike A. from RAB is on here.
Angel, you’re having too much fun with your URLs, i must say…
“Visiting Dr Andrews is never good. It’s too bad this happened, I was starting to think the Yankees had a chance to make some noise this year with their good bullpen and new acquisitions.”
Good thing Nady and Damaso Proctor are both returning. Some more names to look forward to next year. Humberto Sanchez, Andrew Brackman, and possibly Ajax.
Anyone Red Sox haters out there who fear wearing the NYY at Fenway, just pick up a Texas jersey with Murphy on the back.
Although, I wonder if anyone of them are astute enough to know who that is.
You guys are so bleeping funny. You act like someone died. Joba, Jorge, and Wang aren’t the only guys on the team. You still have a 25-man roster to finish the last 1/3 of the season. Anything can happen. Too f’in funny.
Okay, so now IPK is going to start one of the games in LA. Should be interesting.
Isn’t it ‘good news’ that he hasn’t been dl’ed yet?
Couple of things here:
Couldn’t we have chosen separate threads to carry on discussions about both Erin Andrews and Dr. Andrews simultaneously…
‘Joba is going to see Andrews which can’t be good’
Sure it can, if it’s Erin.
And secondly, there is no point in arguing with each other and going back and forth until we know more information about it. Some of us will be right, some wrong. No use trying to decipher what each and every comment released means. The results will come out eventually.
Until then, this could go on all night and still nothing would be resolved. Hopefully Joba’s injury is not serious and we can all breathe a sigh of relief. If not, he’ll do what he needs to do to be healthy for next season.
“MRI’s are great, cat/bone scans are better they reveal things with or with out swelling.”
MRI’s are better, and more accurate, for diagnosing purposes than CT scans, especially when taking pictures of bone, or connective tissue. CT’s are better for soft tissue, like organs, muscles, etc.
but MDs are best to use a combination of each of these scans to paint the best picture.
In the order of the fist, the acronym MRI stands for one thing and one thing only:
MUST
RAGE
INTENSELY
The mother bear will protect her cub.
Clemens will bang his fist.
“Anyone Red Sox haters out there who fear wearing the NYY at Fenway, just pick up a Texas jersey with Murphy on the back”
lol.
“You act like someone died.”
It probably feels like the season died. I have to admit that I don’t like our chances if Joba is out. However, I am not ready to jump into Lake Michigan until I hear what the tests revealed. If they say he’s done for the year, well ….. let’s just say that I’m not going to be in the best of moods for the rest of the season.
“You guys are so bleeping funny. You act like someone died. Joba, Jorge, and Wang aren’t the only guys on the team. You still have a 25-man roster to finish the last 1/3 of the season. Anything can happen. Too f’in funny.”
So we should be confident having lost both of our Aces and one of the best catchers in baseball? Sometimes faith runs out this is one of those times.
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28 to 62 made no sense.
Interesting bit of news on Humberto
sounds phony to me.
Turn two — MRI’s are not the best…i dont know where you got your info from, but MRI’s are cheaper/easier and less invasive then bone/cat scans and so most dr’s will order MRI’s first.
last year Andy went 6-0 in August
Poor Melky….perhaps he should walk around with a paperbag on his head
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Carl Pavano is back. Or at least in Trenton.
The oft-injured (or is it always-injured?) Yankees’ starting pitcher will make a rehab start in Trenton on Thursday against the Akron Aeros, the Indians’ Double-A team.
From the you-can’t-make-this-stuff-up department: Thursday is Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey Night; there will be health screenings available during the game.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2008/08/yankees_pavano_to_pitch_in_tre.html
Now that is freaky.
^ Hahaha awesome, I’m glad to see Pollyanna back posting. Fist Banging Mania!
Ah I should have known randy would come back to say “hah told you so!”
Unfortunately you are not remembering something. After the 28 pitch outing he went into the bullpen and threw pitches to get up to around 50.
seriously, all the bickering over the damn bold names/fake websites is far more annoying than the bold names themselves…….
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3520940&campaign=rss&source=ESPNHeadlines
If you read that article and take what Girardi said, unless he was reading from a cue card, sounds like the optimism is legitimate:
“I think we’re all hopeful,” Girardi said. “I hope we don’t miss him for very long. But you think of a guy of Joba’s caliber and you know he’s going to miss a start, that doesn’t mean the guy who replaces him can’t pitch well.”
Girardi said the 22-year-old right-hander would probably miss his next turn in the rotation, which is scheduled for Saturday. Anything longer would be a setback for the injury-riddled Yankees pitching staff.
I read that as “We got back test results that were optimistic. We are sending him to get confirmation with Andrews to cover our asses so we don’t look like we are rushing him back out there. If Columbia Presbyterian says it isn’t a serious shoulder injury, and Andrews says it isn’t a serious shoulder injury, then it likely isn’t.”
That said, I bet we don’t see Joba pitch until September callups, at the earliest.
“i dont know where you got your info from, but MRI’s are cheaper/easier and less invasive then bone/cat scans and so most dr’s will order MRI’s first.”
i work in a cancer hospital.
bone and nuclear medicine scans are definately the most accurate, but like you said the most costly.
CT’s for soft tissue, MRI’s for bone.
XRays get more cloudy with swelling and inflammation than any of the scans above combined.
i agree that MRIs are the least invasive, because with CT’s you have to receive oral and IV contrast in most cases… but the best picture a MD can get is a combo of both, not one or the other.
Oh they’ve actually called IPK up? Hmmm.
please god let kennedy start on saturday please!
“Post whoring” That’s hysterical! Something you would hear in a Seinfeld episode.
Jerry – “Hi Elaine.”
Elaine – “Hi Jerry.”
Jerry – “Why did you break up with Puddy again, I thought things were going so well between you two.”
Elaine – “I caught him posting to Pete Abraham’s site last night. His name was in bold”
Jerry – “So”.
Elaine – “You don’t understand, he doesn’t have a blog”
Jerry – “You mean?…..”
Elaine – “Yes, he’s a post whore.”
“Carl Pavano is back. Or at least in Trenton.”
That’s ok, just keep him far away from New York.
Hey, Marlins, got a pitcher for ya…
IPK back to prove his arm is bigger than his mouth.
LOL@Pollyanna. Where have you been?
Clemens fist pounding has been missed.
Speaking of missed. I noticed that Anaconda stuck his head in sometime early this morning. He’s another one I’ve missed around here.
“IPK back to prove his arm is bigger than his mouth”
did Ian say something, we’re not aware of?
Oh no.. i really abused the bolding things, by doing that, didnt I?
My bad.
thats better — a combo of both…thats not what you said earlier…MRI’s sometimes miss, as they did with me and with some of my athletes. I can tell you two horror stories of professional athletes, who i treated, complained of pain, but MRI’s never showed a thing, luckily we had a dr who was thorough and decided to use bone/cat scans and revealed that both needed surgery.
If Seattle can hit this Texas pitcher, than we sure as heck should.
I know this is late, but…
My brother once broke his hand in gym class. He didn’t actually realize anything was wrong until about two periods later or so when the pain didn’t go away.
Ack. I was just flicking through EI Channels looking for the game and a mystery was revealed.
I just saw what Hawk Harrelson looks like.
And he was everything I thought he’d be.
enough about MRI’s. x rays and injuries…. its a new day and Andy is about to make up for his last outing….
Let’s GO YANKEES
TurnTwo, aren’t MRIs for muscles? X-Rays are for bones adn CT Scans are for like soft tissue like you said.
Split with Angels.
Swept by Rangers.
What a team.
Why does everyone feel like they have to get a prediction down in writing on Joba?
“IPK back to prove his arm is bigger than his mouth.”
This issue was addressed earlier today, I believe.
In short, you’re wrong about him having a big mouth.
“Im going to make these guys look stupid once again” IPK
yeah, our doctors often diagnose thru a combo of scans, as you would hope with the severity of our patients’ conditions.
what kind of medicine do you practice?
i am always amazed at the images that PET/CT machines can portray.
Me: “Hey Marlins, got a pitcher for ya…”
Marlins: “No thanks, we had that bum before. Some chump took him off our hands for 50 mill. Imagine that, 50 mill. for that waste of a roster space. Boy, who ever did that deal should be hung up by his toenails.”
Me: “UHHH.”
Graziano’s article is dead on about us not missing too much if Joba were down for the season and having fill-ins for his remaining 10 or so starts.
However, what is not addressed in the article is the postseason. If we were to make the PS, Joba would be a big part of our success. You need 3 very good starters and good relief.
Oh no, what if someone actually emails Pollyanna using my inadvertant bolded link. Thats sure to play havoc with the glad game playing.
Here is a question to ponder. Is there a pitcher that throws the way JOba does that doesnt have something show up on an MRI?? I would think any pitcher for that matter based on the mehcanics of how they throw is going to show something on an MRI that is notnormal.
To me the question is how abnormal it is compared to others.
well we are sure to make this guy look like a cy young candidate — he only has 4 k’s on the season…how many will he have against us?
34hughes
August 5th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
“Im going to make these guys look stupid once again†IPK
This is coming from someone who is such a fan of Phil Hughes he’s not even aware he’s changed numbers from #34?
Okie dokie.
If I have to hear “well Harrison had good stuff tonight” from a Yankee in the post-game ill laugh
Wow, Johnny, that was a horrible AB.
“Before his first game with Scranton last week, I-Ken told his wife that he was going to go out there and “make them look stupid,” presumably implying that he was going to prove to the Yanks that he does indeed still possess all the talent scouts insisted he had.”
He then returned to get abused and eventually injured himself. That is what I meant by big mouth.
who just k’ed on 3 pitches?
4 k’s? Is that from piching a whole season???
…Ok, Derek’s may have been worse.
4 pitches 2 outs
“TurnTwo, aren’t MRIs for muscles? X-Rays are for bones adn CT Scans are for like soft tissue like you said.”
yeah…. i often see MRIs used, like i said earlier, for bone and connective tissues around joints.
that would include knees, shoulders, ankles, etc…
CTs for soft tissue, like lungs, stomach and intestinal tract, liver, etc.
Last night, I had the YES broadcast. Tonight, I’ve got these Texas bums.
“Imagine that, 50 mill.”
Sounds like some idiot signed Pavano for 10 million more than Cashman did…
gayle good point…the MRI is sure to show something in a pitcher’s shoulder…just like it would show some trauma in a catcher’s knee’s…
Turntwo: sports medicine/athletic training/physical therapy
Holy crap, Joba is going to Birmingham and the Yankees are getting no-hit. Things are looking dire.
I wish we could wave a magic Wandy and make it all go away, but only the Astros can do that.
Very weak AB. Hope it’s not a sign of things to come.
I believe SJ and CB cleared that up earlier, Al. It was quite interesting to read.
“If I have to hear “well Harrison had good stuff tonight†from a Yankee in the post-game ill laugh.”
Well, he did, didn’t he???
When I had stomach problems, I had a CT scan.
I am out for the night not even gonna watch I got old Sopranos on dvd I’ll check that out.
“Everything has its wonders, even darkness and silence, and I learn, whatever state I may be in, therein to be content.”
wind is ridiculous today…. anything in the air to right has a shot
I love how the announcers from bad teams talk about how much work the Yankees have to do. How about being concerned about what your crappy organization has to do to win. Losers!
“He then returned to get abused and eventually injured himself. That is what I meant by big mouth.”
Kennedy wasn’t referring to the Yankees, he was talking about the minor leaguers he was facing in the game.
well that was a wasted offensive inning…i dont understand why jeter swings at the first pitch…he drives me nuts. In this heat make this guy throw you the kitchen sink before you swing.
Al, I believe that comment was about the AAA hitters, not the Yankees. He said something to the effect of I just woke up feeling like I was going to make these guys look stupid today. Again, talking about the batters, not the Yankees.
And his last game or two before he got hurt (counting the one he got hurt), I thought I remembered him pitching well, or at least ok.. not abused at least.
I have them too. I’m not impressed already.
The Yankees have work to do in winning the division. Well yes, but they’re 5.5 games behind – you’re commentating for a team that is 12 games out last time I looked. So its all relative, isn’t it Texas Rangers commentators?
that was the most pathetic inning i have seen.
MLB.TV SUCKS
So i’m stuck with Gameday Audio…I don’t really mind.
Nice to see we’re taking lots of pitches.
i know he changed his number idiot
but can comeback to it
nick have you walked your dog yet?
when I was younger I has a frontal lobotomy…or was it a bottle in front of me.
Haha, should have known I was the only one whose jaw dropped when they were going on about that.
Kinsler is a big first ball swinging guy.
“Sounds like some idiot signed Pavano for 10 million more than Cashman did…”
Well, what’s an extra 10 mill anyway? Especially when it comes to such a tremendous signing by our astute scouting dept.
J: It could have been worse.
It could have been like Harden did a few weeks ago, where he struck out the side.
On nine pitches.
Hey, Michelle, are you doctor? Is that why you send people to Andrews? Or are you a player agent?
Phil changed is number back to 65. Marte is wearing number 34 with Phil’s blessing.
Al from BK – please stop posting… i can’t take the negativity and stupidity
Kennedy was referring to the batters he was about to face in AAA, not the Yanks organization
“that was the most pathetic inning i have seen.”
you must never watch baseball then
*wasn’t
damon fighting the sun, are the yankees too poor to provide their outfielders with sun glasses?
why do the yankees never beat people who have era’s over 4 ?
If I’m the Yankees, I’d look at the Wild Card. I know they always say they want to win the division, but the Rays are looking to get David Price and Rocco Baldelli soon, and will be hard to beat. I think the Yanks need to be realistic.
“You guys are so bleeping funny. You act like someone died. Joba, Jorge, and Wang aren’t the only guys on the team. You still have a 25-man roster to finish the last 1/3 of the season. Anything can happen. Too f’in funny.”
I’m with you on this Mel, for the record.
Does Joba make the rotation stronger? Yep.
Does losing Joba for any period of time spell the end of the Yankees season? Nope.
great AB by the Captn. He literally goes days not hitting the ball hard out of the infield..
he is not haveing a good yr. I think this may be his worse yr. ever at 34 that is not a good sign.
kill: michelle has previously stated that she works in sports medicine.
The dog is not due to be walked for a couple hours. Are you hinting that I shouldn’t wait ’til a crucial time in the game to do it?
i work in sports medicine/physical therapy and i used to be an athletic trainer for a minor league baseball team and an arena football team.
I don’t know what replay this guy was looking at, but I did not see that ball hit Kinsler. Maybe they have special TVs down in Texas.
stuart –
Care to guess what Jeter’s average is this year swinging at the first pitch?
AH, thanks, Rebecca. Did she specify? BTW, no text messages this year, Rebecca? I feel so forlorn as a consequence.
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28 to 62 made no sense.”
You’re right, 28 to 62 made no sense. However he went 23, 35, 40, 28, 62. Suddenly throwing 40 and then throwing 62 pitches doesn’t look so bad now does it? Also, the 28 game was the game in B-More where I believe he threw 15 to 20 more pitches in the bullpen if I’m not mistaken. So he really went from 40 to 43/48 to 62. Not really that crazy.
AROD jinxed Jeter when he said DJ would have any MVP-type year. I think Alex knew what he was doing.
hughes blessing has not helped marte its the hughes curse
actually nick i was hinting that you need to get a doggy door.
Is that true that sexson is the tallest player in yankees history? we had tony clark and randy johnson. I thought randy was like 6′10″
Is Michelle a physician in Sports Medicine or a rehabilitation specialist?
When I call my uncle, who is an orthopedist, he tells I’m completely meshuggah to be worried about some guy I dont even know– class Bronx’s Tale response– and he hangs up on me.
From Rotoworld:
The Yankees will call up Ian Kennedy to start Saturday in place of Joba Chamberlain, sources told Suzyn Waldman of WCBS.
Kennedy would likely have a chance of sticking in the rotation once Chamberlain returns, but he’ll have to perform well. AL-only leaguers won’t want him active right away.
http://rotoworld.com/Content/playerpages/player_main.aspx?sport=MLB&id=4455
kennedy is finally going to get his second shot. i hope he succeeds this time.
I liked Josh Hamilton during the ASG. During this series, not so much!
kill: New phone, I don’t have your number any more.
Andy.
Control.
” mml..mmmf.umph…lllFgnhm…mmmph ” ER’s latest statements now muffled by the fact that his head is completely up his @$$ !
a bad call by an ump leads to two runs
Pettite needs to challenge these hitters, because THAT is what happens when you nitpick.
wow, just wow…i think andy got squeezed on the 2-2 pitch — but here we go…
Or, you know, give up a two run bomb.
Ugh
andy wanted a a couple of those pitches that would have punched out Hamilton
great start for the yanks.. walk a guy for no reason.. 0 and 2 and then try to get a good hitter to swing at a bouncer.. great start for pettitte..
man doesn’t Jeter look like Young at the plate with his discipline etc.
this team is pathetic.. if they do not score 6 runs off this clown the ysuck….
This ballpark is ridiculous. None of these balls even come close to getting over the fence in any other ballpark in the major leagues.
Young’s home run, Byrd’s grand slam, Hamilton’s home run. In Yankee Stadium, all of those are lazy fly balls or easy line drives to put away.
No wonder the Rangers stats are so inflated at home and are awful on the road. They’re not a good hitting team one bit, they’re lucky their ballpark turns easy outs into home runs.
Times up stuart – Jete hits .311 when he swings at the first pitch.
kill – scroll up and you’ll see what i do…
hmmmmmm..first inning jitters again for Andy.
I’m not a regular contributor to the blog but i’ve been thinking about it all day and have two opinions to toss into the ring about Joba and his injury:
1. If Joba is somehow hurt, the world will go on, the Yankees will play the games, we’ll all watch them, and Joba will begin to fix whatever went wrong.
2. The Yankees may not be perfectly equipped to handle an injury to the second #1 of their staff in one season but i’d say we have a better chance than most at overcoming the adversity. With Mussina pitching like a front end guy and Pettite being the type of guy who steps up when you need him most I think they’ll win the big games. I’d put Andy against Beckett in game 1 every time this year. He reminds me of the Toby Keith song “I ain’t as good as I once was but i’m as good once as I ever was.” Despite the 2 run homer lol. On top of that I have faith that Phil Hughes is going to come back and be a beast before September. (IE a start or MAYBE 2 in August.)
Conclusion? The Yankees will fight their way into the playoffs despite the fact that we can’t see how. “Sometimes life is like the highway at night. Your headlights only show you the 20 yards in front of you but you know you’re going to get where you need to be.”
Absolutely great. Just what we needed from our veteran pitcher.
He may have gotten squeezed, but he’s starting to remind me of Mussina from last year, and not challenging the hitters. Each of his 1ball, 2strike pitches have been nowhere near the plate to get the batters to offer a swing. and then on that 2-2 pitch, its FAT. He’s getting smacked.
Way to go Andy!
Good veteran presence to snap us out of this.
Some of these strike calls.. *exasperated look*
OMG, this guy is delusional. He thinks that the Rangers are going to catch LAA? Wow. That heat plays tricks with people’s minds.
well this sucks.
Everybody hitting it hard right now.
Game over so fast today
michelle, I live on the 7th floor of my building, I’m not sure a doggy door would work. Maybe a basket and a really, really long leash…
Andy’s got no control, again.
Why does it even matter? Without Joba or Wang they can’t win a playoff series anyway.
Well…with the amount of pitches he’s thrown, we might be seeing dan giese pitch tonight, instead of friday.
Michelle: If no one has said it already, Sexson is 6′8 and Johnson is 6′10. Sexson is the tallest position player, but Johnson is the tallest player in Yankees history.
andy has lost the plate
ok ken singleton said that richie sexson is the tallest player to play for the yankees…i just looked it up
Randy Johnson is 6′10″
I guess everyone forgot that Texas is 2 games behind us.
“I think the Yanks need to be realistic.”
They don’t decide to go for the Wild Card or Division, they try to win every game they play. Maybe IF it comes down to a time where they’ve clinched the wild card, but still have a shot at the division, then they can decide if it’s worth going for the division versus getting guys some rest.
Right now, they just worry about winning games and see where things shake out over the next couple months.
CLE leading TB 3-1.
“Why does it even matter? Without Joba or Wang they can’t win a playoff series anyway.”
That’s the spirit!
I dislike Texas more and more
“Why does it even matter? Without Joba or Wang they can’t win a playoff series anyway.”
i really, really wish i could argue this.
“When I call my uncle, who is an orthopedist, he tells I’m completely meshuggah to be worried about some guy I dont even know– class Bronx’s Tale response– and he hangs up on me.”
Nobody cares kid.
This game is like a funeral for our season. The 10 game road trip that will bury us.
Michelle B.
He said tallest position player.
So many runs have scored after walks these past few days. Our pitchers have got to limit those.
“I guess everyone forgot that Texas is 2 games behind us.”
For the Wild Card? I didn’t realize that. I thought DET was right behind us. I don’t watch the Wild Card standings on a day to day basis; only the regular standings.
SEASON it OVer!!
oh tallest position player, i didnt hear that… and tony clark is 6′7″
once when I was mowing my lawn I hit a nail and it shot into my calf like a corkscrew. I never pitched again.
Is there any chance the hurricane will effect the game tonight – preferably before the end of the 5th inning?
I wonder if Texas ownership told them to plunk A-Rod. LOL!
“michelle, I live on the 7th floor of my building, I’m not sure a doggy door would work. Maybe a basket and a really, really long leash…”
Nick,
This is why I love my cat.
Boston and TB doing all they can to GIVE us the division and we do this the past 10 days.
What a complete joke.
Michelle, if you wouldn’t mind enlightening me, I’d appreciate it. I’m always curious and impressed by the tremendous professional, political, class, and racial diversity this blog attracts.
It reinforces my love for baseball.
BTW, I’d love to know why Jeter has reverted to his impatient younger self, circa 1997. I can’t condemn him for an off-season. What bothers me is how little plate discipline he’s excercised.
I am so glad that YES doesn’t have some idiot trolling through the stands talking to people.
come on sexy X
Let’s see if this guy can be made to look like a Cy Young award winner…as per usual with the Yankees.
“Nobody cares kid.”
LMAO – I really sense the blog community pulling together in these difficult times!
kill: do you know who gene monahan is?
well i see that cy young is on the mound today.
Doesn’t it seem like Pettitte gets hurt a lot with two outs and none on?
hughes blessing has not been go to marte with 34 its the hughes curse
wow did cano actually take three pitches. must be a record
Magnet Ray…are you saying it’s more fun to hang a cat out the 7th story than a dog?
kennedy & girardi, part II
I believe the first time around, Kennedy’s lack of urgency, is what p*issed off Girardi.
game ain’t over yet. This lineup will pull through.
We love Arod.
If you dislike Texas you are going to hate Minnesota and Anaheim. You know. Two actual good teams with real pitching.
It’s allright, we’re facing Randy Johnson in his prime tonight, not expecting the offense to show up or anything.
why do you steal 3-0?
Did Cano just walk? Holy cow! Of course, the Big Sexy Whiff is up next.
Joe Girardi: “A lot of guys like to go visit Dr. Andrews.”
He said it like he was talking about a trip to see Santa at the shopping mall.
Question, what is the deadline for the Yanks to declare whether they’re going for the wild card or the division? Is it still Sept. 1?
“game ain’t over yet. This lineup will pull through.”
Because it’s been great all season??
OK Sexson – time to earn your minimum wage!
Why doesn’t AROD steal…MORE???If he never gets thrown out and gets great jumps, send him more. It’s not that hard to figure out.
Guy’s calling pretty low strikes.
trisha – I am a Sidney supporter. August 5th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
We love Arod.
You have loved Igawa, Farnsworth and Sidney Ponson. You hze no credibility as a fan.
Does anyone know the analysis on why Sexson just can’t put a ball in play? What the hell happened to this guy?
“why do you steal 3-0?”
Like there is 0% chance that Robbie will ground into a DP?
I forgot that the Big Sexy had charged the mound against Texas.
““Nobody cares kid.â€
LMAO – I really sense the blog community pulling together in these difficult times!”
TK,
That’s what Sonny told Cologero(sp) when C was upset because the Mick was crying. I was feeding off of Kill Shills Bx Tale reference. Didn’t mean anything by it.
The issue with this team is that they never seem to rebound well after a loss or any sort of bad news.
Championship teams can do that.
And Richie, that was really not cool.
“This ballpark is ridiculous. None of these balls even come close to getting over the fence in any other ballpark in the major leagues”
kinda like camden yards.
well we also do not have luck on our side.
That is a perfect example of this season.
TB takes the lead. 4-3 Boo
We all knew the pitching would come back to earth after the great July. We just didn’t expect it to be this bad. And now now Joba.
“If you dislike Texas you are going to hate Minnesota and Anaheim. You know. Two actual good teams with real pitching.”
I believe they split a series with Angels and swept the Twins.
Season is oVer!
Well, at least he put the ball in play.
Richie hit that hard. Not much you could do about that. The good news is that they’re getting stuff done against the kid.
This season has been different from the others where they would always be totally handcuffed by pitchers they haven’t seen before. Not quite the case any more.
A good offense?
We start Richie Sexson!!!!
Man, we stink.
Obviously someone up there has something against the yankees.
wow…the big sexy almost got a hit….instead it will go down in history as a DP
“Magnet Ray…are you saying it’s more fun to hang a cat out the 7th story than a dog?”
Very funny. But no, cats have no need to be walked is what I was getting at.
Bad sexy
Rebecca,
I asked you this before, but would you please NOT use religious names/terms as exclamatories? It’s offensive to a lot of people.
Thanks very much!
Good job A-Rod.
“You have loved Igawa, Farnsworth and Sidney Ponson. You hze no credibility as a fan.”
As opposed to someone who changes names each time they say that?
Altho it seems Sexson is going to try his best to prove me wrong.
the rays dont have a good lineup. most of their hitters are at .260 or below. their picthing has been great and thats why they are still hanging on. they play the yanks and the sox more than 10 times in september. thats when we will know if they are for real.
Season’s been over since Wang went down
Wow
Could this team’s luck be any worse?
Then on top of that, there’s also the fact that Sexson sucks. I think its time to end the experiment, or at least don’t play him instead of Giambi, who was finally starting to hit, today.
gotcha Ray – I haven’t seen that movie in ages.
Wow, zero hits against Mr. Harrison. My guitar is gently weeping.
Andy is awful
oy vey andy
Wow….just wow. Pettite looks ridiculously hittable. Just fat pitches.
Richie Sexson. The Big Un-Sexy.
TK – 3-0 isn’t the pitch to steal 2nd base. You wait at least a pitch. Cano isn’t swinging 3-0 so why take a chance getting throw out? If that pitch is a strike and you want to start something 3-1 then go for it, that can keep you out of the double play AND open up a hole for Cano.
Tough playing without a centerfielder.
Of course, Michelle. I think Monahan was the Yankees’ trainer when I was watching the Yankees in the 1970s.
Are you a trainer for a professional sports franchise?
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HEY SJ44 OR CB— THIS FOR YOU!
1) What’s up with Humberto Sanchez? Why are the Yankees playing games with his injury clock? Is his elbow hurting him or not? Any clue?
2) What’s the likelihood of the Yankees promoting Aceves, Kontos or Coke?
I thought August was supposed to be Andy’s good month?
The season is not over. This is a work in progress. The team is getting better with a bright future. The present adversity is temporary, it will pass.
I am very excited about the Yankees future, I hope Cashman stays.
This stadium is a freaking joke. The ball has to be hit weakly on a line to get out in right center and the gaps are ridiculous.
This park is such an unfair advantage for Texas when you add in the 100 degree heat and the hometown umpires.
I think it is safe to say it wasn’t Pudge’s fault for Andy’s last game.
If they were getting the job done, wouldn’t they be in first? This guy talks like Texas is in first place.
Andy. come on man
sorry, Rebecca, I only report the news
Does anyone know what has happened to Andy Pettite? He’s lost the strike zone these past 2 games…and been inconsistent all year. He’s the guy we always used to look to, to stop losing streaks, but he hasn’t been that guy this year. Is this Andy almost..done?
wang – seriously, religious outburts make you feel uncomfortable??
even our defense lets us down now.
ROBBIE CANO…DON’T YA KNOW
It’s the second inning and this already feels like a disaster.
“I believe they split a series with Angels and swept the Twins.”
Split at home and swept at home.
Hey wake up Girardi! THAT IS WHERE YOU BRING THE INFIELD IN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR OFFENSE HAS LOOKED HORRIBLE TONIGHT.
If the infield is in like it should have been, that’s a line out to second base and no run scores.
damn…now i have the fricken texas feed
Well that sucks
It would really just make my day if the yankees could score just 1 run this game…Is that too much to ask
Cano comes through again.
The Yanks are damned. I’m sorry to say. There is nothing going right for this team right now, and its representative of this team, all year. They’ll get down early…and they’ll want to get out of the heat. Sorry…I’m depressed.
Micfhelle, he said Sexson was the tallest “Position player” in history. Right now, Jon Rauch is the tallest pitcher/player in history.
Wow. Bad bounces, bad hops, bad pitching…
Michelle — sure profanity is low-class. Pete’s asked us to watch our language on this family site and obviously that includes profanity. What’s the problem with using better language?
the pitching staff is a wreck right now. anyone that thinks that giese or kennedy will save this staff is living a dream.
KS –
Coke just got promoted to SWB and pitched well last night – Chad Jenning’s blog has a very good write-up on it.
They say he’s going to be in the SWB the rest of the year – but things change.
What a joke. Pretty pathetic team.
We needed that.
Now we need a hit. For @#$@#$ sake, this guy has a 7.40 ERA!
Molina – Christian – Damon
Will need a two out rally.
84 win season. Won’t be enough to make it.
The Yankees aren’t damned. They’re just not good enough right now.
Well that was nice at least, but 3 runs feel like 10 right now.
wang i was joking — sorry i need to hit the sarcasm button sometimes
ok hopefully that settles down Andy and he can give us some innings
Alright, let’s work on getting a hit at least off of this dude. Maybe..a run or 2 will follow
“What’s the problem with using better language?”
watch some of these games and you’ll find out.
Matt,
Did you have a problem with Nady’s HR last night? That’s an out in Yankee Stadium.
Perhaps you didn’t get the memo, the Yankees are also playing in the same ballpark. Its not illegal for them to score runs against the worst pitching staff in the AL.
A pitching staff I might add, that has a new pitching and bullpen coach since Sunday.
Stop whining about the ballpark. You sound like a damn Red Sox fan.
Its not the ballpark. Pettitte is pitching like crap.
How was the ballpark the other night when Pettitte gave up 9 runs to the Angels at the Stadium? Was Yankee Stadium to blame when he gave up 2, 3 run HR’s in one inning?
You make good pitches, you get outs, regardless of where you play.
KS,
1. Yes. They want him to spend more time in the GCL and he needs a new injury to re-start his rehab clock.
2. No chance on Kontos. He’s still in AA. Coke could be a September callup when rosters expand for bullpen work. Not sure re: Aceves. I think he needs to do a little better in AAA before they call him up.
“What’s the problem with using better language?”
Am I missing something? I didn’t see Rebecca curse.
Rebecca
Time to change your moniker; I don’t see much optimism in your last few posts.
well he had a 7.4 era coming in, but he might leave with a 5.0 era
Why Matt is it only hot when the yanks bat? DO they move in the fences when the Rangers get up?
So far so bad.. Arod made it but stealing on a 3 and 0 count!!!I dislike that play a lot.
Cano being Cano on the fielding play…
Sexson hit it hard what can you do, bad teams like the ynaks do not make any breaks….
if Christian has a bad game tonight, can’t wait to see the posts tommorrow…
F%^&
I have to mute these texas mediots. No sound at all is better than these guys.
Wow…snake-bitten. This game does not look promising.
Okay, forget a run…how about a hit?
Michelle — hard to communicate sarcasm via email, as we’ve seen repeatedly when reading some of the posts after Pete’s VERY sarcastic comments — which I personally enjoy.
This team was doomed the moment Wang got hurt. Joba wasn’t supposed to be our ace.
Doesn’t help that they can’t score runs.
well they are hitting it on the screws here…soo we should come through around the 5th inning or so, just in time for andy to give up a 6 more runs.
Thata boy Christian, put yourself in an 0-1 count as fast as possible
In a pre-game meeting, the team decided they will not start seriously competing until the 5th inning.
VRSCE: Sorry, I’m just really stressed right now.
And yay! a hit!
Which will happen first, a J. Christian homer or a Carl Pavano mlb win?
Thank God, we got a hit.
On the bright side of losing?
We get to enjoy SJ44 rip apart the team.
who’s faster: christian or gardner?
Damaso Proctor is closing tonight. No worries.
Now you expect Christian to hit home runs?? Unreal.
“I believe they split a series with Angels and swept the Twins.â€
Split at home and swept at home.
That doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference – especially given the Angels road record.
The Metrodome is a piece of crap stadium and the Yankees manage to win there often.
I’m smelling a run or two!
TK: Homer.
Vinny: Brett, but JC knows how to make things happen.
Rebecca
I hope you are not the canary in the coal mine.
The Yankees will win this game,count on it.
who’s faster: christian or gardner?
who cares? they both cant hit a lick
Maybe Christian can steal all the way to home!
I’m calling it first…DJ…DP
Setting up nicely for a devastating 6-4-3.
DP DEREK…is up
Wow, they mentioned the DPs. They must frequent this blog.
i must’ve missed the cursing/religious outburst.
LETS GO JETE!!
Who is the biggest jerk on the blog ? Would that be ER or ER ? Hmmmm…let me think ?
Early report is the team will fine Christian $500 for that single, and another $500 for the stolen base.
Captain DP.
Please no DP
Please no DP
Please no DP
ok I cal a hr for DJ
damn texas knows jeters weakness…but seriously in my opinion Jeter has been the most underachieving Yankee this year. please start carrying us
Cal=call
Hahaha…funny that the first 4 comments that came up are about DJ’s DPs. No longer the clutch hitter.
Random question:
Does anyone know what’s up with the brace Christian put on his wrist? It is just a precautionary measure or does he have some sort of wrist problem that he’s worried about?
(And does he always wear the brace and this is just the first time I’ve noticed it?)
captian dp.
This is getting out of hand with Jeter.
Why is our team so pathetic against no-name-high-ERA-pitchers!!?
DP master strikes again JETER U SUCK
Jeter GIDP.. whats new
WOW!!!! All of this board discord, and I’m not involved. I feel as though I’m shirking my duties.
Unbelievable. He has to be moved in the lineup, it’s getting crazy.
Amazing.
You guys don’t get my point. These are very different offensive teams.
The Rangers are a team of SLUGGERS, who swing for the fences. All you have to do is put the ball in the air here and it’s a home run.
The Yankees are NOT a team of sluggers, so no, it is not as easy for them to score here. They only have 1, maybe 2 guys who hit the ball out of the ballpark. The entire Rangers lineup swings for the fences.
Half our lineup is weak singles hitters like Jeter. It’s very hard to win when the other team just has to hit a lazy fly ball and it’s a home run.
interesting development to end that inning
This is actually becoming something of a concern. I wonder if Jeter is worried about it. He should be. How many rallies is he going to kill with the DP ball?
…
Okay, now Derek’s just hurting the team.
Please don’t GIDP
By the grey beard of Odin, can’t we catch a break?!??!?
Also, I missed Rebecca’s sacrilegious post, what on earth did she say?
wow, just wow – does this guy ever think about a walk or running the count a bit
At a certain point…does someone need to start asking the question “Why are you swinging at crap and hitting into double-plays that kill every rally?”
my god, I’ve never seen Jeter perform this poorly before.
OMFG !
The Capn’!!!!!!!!!
Just call me GIDP.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
THE KID OBVIOUSLY HAS CONTROL ISSUES AND JETER SWINGS 1-0 ON A LOW AND OUTSIDE PITCH AND PULLS IT.
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH. YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP.
hang head in shame….Charlie Brown type humiliation
SIt him down
“Actually one of the most calming feelings, believe it or not, is knowing that I don’t have a clue about what’s going on”
Trisha, your philosophy is intriguing.
“27″,
Try to keep the blog names down to under 20 tonight.
No sense going undercover to stalk me.
Just keep one name and stalk me. You don’t have to go undercover.
Don’t like the posts? Don’t read’em.
Here’s a tip twerp. You ain’t changin’ what I write.
If you have problems understanding the above sentence, have mommy read it to you so you don’t waste anymore time writing the same stuff to me every night.
Wow, he just has to be injured.
Just has to be.
This game is killing me, Smalls.
time for an update brandon—sheesh—-this series is getting hard to take
Cap’n GIDP
jeter blows.
and will somebody kill that STUPID EDGE commercial?!?!
It’s sad that I call a double play every time Jeter is at-bat with a runner on. This is getting a bit ridiculous.
Jesus Christ, I know he’s the Captain and all, but he’s been a liability all freakin’ season… can we please move him down to 6th or something already? Somewhere where he can’t GIDP anymore fer cripes’ sake???
thats his 18th dp, and ive seen all of them now.
Jeter the rally killer strikes again.
This is deplorable. Ridiculous. The sad part is I was hoping Damon wouldnt walk because I knew this would happen.
“Does anyone know what’s up with the brace Christian put on his wrist?”
Protect the hand and wrist from jamming when sliding.
I don’t know how m many
minaya finds gems like tatis.
cashman finds wastes like sexson, betemit, christian, etc
Frankly, I’m tired of everyone (i.e. media) giving Jeter a pass, due to his past resume. Frankly, he is a liability now. If his hand is hurt, SIT DOWN. He is part of the problem now, no longer part of the solution.
they cant handle the change up here
Again — not cursed, just no damn good.
Whoever that 1st basemen was he made a long fricken stretch
That was nice
It’s play’s like that that we could look back on and see why we didn’t win.
how many DP’s for the Captain this year now? 19 or so.
Can he play any worse offensively? Is it possible? I know he is not as bad a Beroa on the dodgers or Lugo on the sux but really can the guy hit the ball hard to the outfield in our lifetime..
Tonight we are looking at a new season low so far in performance.. so far so bad…
If I was not such an obsessed Yankee fan how can anyone watch this???
This in unbelievable. Jeter cannot do anything right this year. Its just a shame.
Captain GIDP.
Amazing.
So you guys still think Pettitte should come back? Please, the guy is over the hill. He was a great pitcher and gave the Yanks many great years, but after this season (and I mean regular season, because this team ain’t making the playoffs) he should hang em up.
jeter is not a pateient hitter. i read an article in which it said he could hit 20-30 hrs a year, but he did not have the patience for it.
Has Jeter had a good swing since last September? What happened to the MVP caliber year that Arod predicted for him in Spring training?
(AP) Damon Released After Walk
Arlington – The New York Yankees have released Johnny Damon after an ill-advised walk in the 3rd inning of today’s Rangers-Yankees game. Conversely, they have promoted Jeter from living legend to immortal deity after his creative 3rd-to-1st double play.
This team looks like its teetering on the edge of a 5-6 game losing streak now.
The more we stink, the more SJ44 can rant and rave and remind us all what we need.
And on top of it the Rangers are USED TO THE HEAT. The Yankees are coming from 75-80 degree weather to 100 + . It’s very hard to play in this heat when you’re not used to it.
So Texas has an advantage in this ballpark, and you cannot deny that. They are used to the heat- advantage 1. They have guys who swing for the fences and you barely have to get any of it for a home run- advantage 2. And they have ridiculous, horrible home town umpires- advantage 3.
The Rangers do not win last night if you take out these advantages. It was very obvious. The blown call in the 5th cost the Yankees tremendously because all you have to do is flick a ball and it’s a home run as we saw. Any extra baserunners that are given to a team in this ballpark can lose you a game. And on top of that, the walk off grand slam and Young’s 3-R HR- no way they’re a HR in any other ballpark. That was 7 of the 9 runs that do not score without the home run.
The Yankees home runs were crushed. They would have been out of any ballpark in the majors. That’s the difference. The Rangers are just barely clearing the fences with lazy fly balls.
What we need is a rally squirrel !
SJ, you know better. just ignore.
“Wow, he just has to be injured. Just has to be.”
Still from when he got hit on the hand? I would have thought that would be healed by now.
If he’s got an injury, I think it’s a leg injury. If you watch him after he runs threw a few bases, he stops, bends down and grabs his thigh. I think I’m on to something….
the Yankees walk a batter – the batter scores
the Yankees walk – they find a double-play
Last year Captain GIDP hit into 21 ( career high ) already has 18, and on pace for at least 26 ( NEW career high )….you ROCK Jeter ! All the more reason to swing at pitches early in the count, right EINSTEIN ????
Two potential big innings immediately destroyed by the double play. It is painful to watch Harrison put 0’s considering the fact that he is nowhere near the plate and when he is, his pitches are flat out meatballs.
Agree, El Guapo. Pettitte is way too expensive to bring back next year. I believe he’s making ~$16M this year. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Looks like Petitte cannot use Pudge as the excuse anymore.
Jeter is kiddung right?
Why not put a hit and run on? or have Jeter bunt? Sexsons ball was hit on the nose cant complain about that
Never would I have thought that I’d say resign Mussina to a one-year deal, and let Pettite retire, but I’m saying it now. Additionally, Mark in Tampa…I mentioned above that AROD knew what he was doing when he predicted an MVP year…he was jinxing him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/stats/batting?split=0&league=mlb&season=2008&seasonType=2&sort=GIDPs&type=exp&ageMin=17&ageMax=51&state=0&college=0&country=0&hand=a&pos=all&startDate=null&endDate=null&minpa=0
Nady, Giambi, Arod, Sexson and Abreu aren’t sluggers? Cano and Damon have no power? Abreu has more HR’s since the ASB than Josh Hamilton.
The difference is Matt, the Rangers are a good hitting team and the Yankees are not.
The ballpark doesn’t have anything to do with it.
The Yankees are facing the worst pitching staff in the AL. You really think the ballpark is holding them back?
If so, how was yesterday the first game the Yankees lost in Texas in 3 years? In the past, they CRUSHED the ball in this ballpark.
SJ44, so what’s the deal then with Humberto Sanchez? Why is his recovery taking so long?
I assume there’s no chance of seeing him this year.
But do the Yankees envision him as a starter or a reliever for the future?
If he doesn’t accumulate any innings in 2008, he’s not likely to start next year either, is he?
Do the Yankees still have high hopes for him or what?
At least captain Varitek just strikes or pops out almost every at bat instead of being like Jeter and making contact and grounding into DPs. Jeter might have to take the captain Tek approach and start striking out more!
how do you get someone else’s posts in quotes?
“The Rangers are just barely clearing the fences with lazy fly balls.”
Nady’s homer last night was a borderline warning track fly ball in normal circumstances.
alright pettite settled down i think were gonna score right here.
At least when Sexson GIDP’ed it was more a result of bad luck than anything else.
Jeter’s got to be playing hurt, and while I admire grit, he’s too classy to try to play while hurt and end up hurting the team in the process.
I know I haven’t been my usual optimistic self recently–I’ve been under some stress. For example–I’m apparently the only person in my master’s program that doesn’t read Latin, which puts me at a significant disadvantage. So I’m trying to learn the language in the time span of about a month.
So I apologize if it’s coming out in my posts.
That said, it’s only 3-0. This team came back from 5-0 against the Angels.
We can win this.
Wow, nice recovery by Pettite. If he can keep this up, he’ll give us a chance to get back into this one.
If some will persist in saying Jeter is injured, then tell him to sit down and stop killing us.
Copy, paste and put quotes around them.
Nothing brings out the sj44 negative brigade like an early loss
How long will his captainess keep him in the two spot? He’s obviously shown he can’t keep from GIDP’s all year… Wake the hell up Girardi and stop batting him second… so what if he’s not the #2 hitter anymore – how many more GIDP’s does he have to hit into, how many more rallies does he kill before that loyalty pays the ultimate price of losing games? Shouldn’t he have to earn his spot as well as any other player? He obviously hasn’t and is killing the rallies. End rant. We now return you to your regularly scheduled GIDP brought to you be Edge.
Get to work bats and score some runs!
“At least captain Varitek just strikes or pops out almost every at bat instead of being like Jeter and making contact and grounding into DPs”
Jeter is definitely more a team player. GDIP’s help the team batting average.
TurnTwo,
Agreed, I’ll disengage the troll dialogue.
Is it really that complicated Yankees?
GET DEREK JETER OUT OF THE TWO HOLE.
How can you continue to send a guy out there who’s hitting .280 and leads the league in GIDP in the TWO HOLE, one of the most important spots in the lineup, behind the best leadoff guy in baseball?
Jeter being in the two hole has lost us so many games this year. Double plays are a lot worse than simply 2 outs. They demoralize a team and keep a pitcher’s pitch count down. One double play has implications that are further reaching than you’d think.
If not for the double plays, Jeter wouldn’t be hurting us. But he is. So GET HIM OUT OF THERE.
Someone talk mw off the ledge!!! We make great moves, things start coming together and it evaporates before my eyes! How long until we’ve promoted the entire SWB pitching rotation to the big club?!!?!
If you are a lefty with an ERA over 6, you too can be a major leaguer pitcher and shut down the New York Yankees.
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but wow:
http://slidingintohome.blogspot.com/2007/12/new-yankee-stadium-construction-update.html
“Trisha, your philosophy is intriguing.”
Wade Boggs, you know how parents have certain sayings that they use over and over again and that manage to really make an impact and then stay with you?
One of my dad’s was “Don’t borrow trouble.” So I don’t. It is pointless to worry about the unknown.
“Frankly, I’m tired of everyone (i.e. media) giving Jeter a pass, due to his past resume.”
You’re kidding right? Its been fashionable to pick on Jeter here all year.
well abreu hit a hit, and here comes arod, i wonder whats going to happen.
“cashman finds wastes like sexson, betemit, christian, etc”
Christian, serves a purpose on this team.
you may need to turn your attention to Arod, Jeter, etc.
Matt,
Your complaining is beyond pathetic. As a Yankee fan, I am embarrassed by your posts.
It will be interesting to see what the Yankees do next year about RF. I’m thinking if Nady has a great second half, they will let Abreu walk. I’d like to keep Nady, Abreu, Damon and Matsui, but at least one of them will have to go.
This guy Harrison has little control, and when he does get the ball over the plate…its so hittable. They should be killing him.
BTW, Tommy Hunter, tomorrow’s starter for Texas (with an ERA of 10+) will throw 6 shutout innings. The sports almanac in back to the future 2 told me.
Wow, Tommy Hunter tomorrow with a 10.80 ERA.
Prediction for Hunter’s line:
7.1 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 6 K
“The Rangers do not win last night if you take out these advantages. It was very obvious. The blown call in the 5th cost the Yankees tremendously because all you have to do is flick a ball and it’s a home run as we saw. Any extra baserunners that are given to a team in this ballpark can lose you a game. And on top of that, the walk off grand slam and Young’s 3-R HR- no way they’re a HR in any other ballpark. That was 7 of the 9 runs that do not score without the home run.”
Ok. But what about all of the other games this team has blown inexcusably this season though.
Are you people idiots?
I guess Vlad Guerrero, Joe Mauer, Magglio Ordonez and Jose Rios suck too. They are in the top 10 in GIDP.
When a lot of people are on base before you, you hit into a lot of DPs. It just happens.
Angel..
The media.
KS,
He also had bone chip surgery after his TJ Surgery.
He was never on the radar for this year. They are taking it real slow with him. Probably because he’s recovering from two, rather than one, surgeries.
I have a feeling he’s going to end up being in the bullpen in the future. I think it will be easier for him to get back out of the ‘pen than in a rotation.
“Wake the hell up Girardi and stop batting him second… so what if he’s not the #2 hitter anymore – how many more GIDP’s does he have to hit into, how many more rallies does he kill before that loyalty pays the ultimate price of losing games?”
when he isnt Derek Jeter.
only Torre would embarrass the hell out of an all-time great by moving him down to #8 in the order.
I’m starting to whisper to myself about # 2……By the way was in charge of locking the gate today, many inmates are running loose tonight….Who is 27 anyway….
Stop with the Nady HR nonsense. That was 1 run. The Rangers scored all of their runs on home runs, none of which cleared the fence by more than 10 feet at most.
If they are playing this game at the stadium, the Yankees win it 3 or 4 to NOTHING. NOTHING. That’s the difference.
The Yankees are not a slugging team anymore. Stop with that. When will you guys realize that? They are a doubles hitting team when they are on. They have some power, but nobody on this team other than A-Rod and Giambi hit more than 20 home runs in a season, and Giambi hits .250 and .200 with RISP so his home runs are meaningless usually.
Is Latin hard to learn, Rebecca?
Maybe those Rosetta Stone programs might help? I noticed they had one in Latin.
“If some will persist in saying Jeter is injured, then tell him to sit down and stop killing us.”
Okay, then who plays SS? BeteStrikeOut? I’d rather have a hurt Jeter than him.
Sexson really hurts the yankees by causing Giardi (whose showing hes a moron) to sit Giambi vs lhp
Rebecca-good luck with your masters program. Try not to stress out too much about it. I’m sure you will be fine and good luck.
Dear Yankees-We need some run thingies
ZMAN7777
August 5th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Agree, El Guapo. Pettitte is way too expensive to bring back next year. I believe he’s making ~$16M this year. Correct me if I’m wrong.
No offense dude, but realisticaly, we’re not paying the salaries, so there’s no reason to worry about it
point of order: did Pettitte say anything to the effect of blaming Pudge for his last performance or was that just speculation in these parts? I was out of town.
Fair enough. I guess I don’t read much media these days, lol.
what about #6 in the order?
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL OH MY GOD
that was worse than the jeter double play. nice job
Nick-I think it was just speculation from the Bellevue crew
This is unreal. We have some seriously, seriously bad karma going on right now.
The DP’s just keep piling up. Good God, what an awful offensive baseball team.
Harrison won’t make it out of this inning.
I wish some of the Yankees batters would start ‘flicking’ some balls over the fences like the Rangers.
Are we trying to hit into the most DP’s in a single game here?
if abreu was on the move there how did he get doubled up?
3rd DP of the game for the Yankees. I never liked DPs.
wow – how is that even possible
SJ.
You have mentioned you’re familiar with the Yankee prospects at Charlesto. What do you think of Jesus Montero? Can he be turn into a first baseman?
Thank you
Like I said, the double play is the most DEMORALIZING offensive play in the game.
Double plays kill you more than just 2 outs. That’s why Jeter is such a killer in the 2 hole.
And they hit into double plays because they keep pulling off outside pitches. Jeter always avoided them because he could hit the ball to all fields, but now he can’t. His bat speed is down, so he can’t get the ball out of the infield on the left side. That’s why he’s a DP machine. His bat speed.
Their best hitter faces a quality lefty in Petitte and homers lefty to lefty.
Our best hitter (oh, and the leagues best hitter) faces a AAA pitcher and GIDP
amazing
So what if Pettitte has settled? He already put us 3 in the hole. For this team, the way they are playing, they might as well be 18 behind.
well, i guess jeter isn’t the only GIDP member today. sigh.
Oh No, A-Rod caught the same bug afflicting Jeter!!
Can we catch a break?
Good old Alexander the Great
“When a lot of people are on base before you, you hit into a lot of DPs. It just happens.”
So you are saying that this year out of all of the years Derek has batted this high up in the order, there are finally people on base in front of him? Um, I don’t think so. Derek is not swinging at the right pitches. There’s no way around it. He’s got 18 already.
SJ – please pay these idiots no mind. I think most people here with half a brain know that you and CB are by far the most informative and rational posters.
As a frequent lurker, most of the time i just do a Ctrl+F for SJ44, read your posts and close the window… other than that i can’t take the stupidity that goes on in here
what is the record for # of dps in a single game?
Abreu was not going, which made no sense. If you go on the first 3-2, why are you not going on the 2nd? He’s obviously going to try to get A-Rod reaching, you have to go on the pitch.
well looks like cano made up for that 3-0 count.
SJ
=Charleston Riverdogs=
How much are we paying the Great ARod again???????
We have him coming through in the clutch for how many years again?????
cano back to his 1st pitch swinging again…ughh this team isnt very fun to watch
What is with the karma, curses, etc.?? Doesn’t anyone believe that this isn’t a matter of fate?? It’s called lousy execution.
Nice at bat by Cano
Sexson – Molina – Christian.
3 More outs wasted and Harrison will have a shutout after 5.
Harrison is the best pitcher since daniel cabrera, who was the best pitcher since paul maholm, who was the best pitcher since…oh i dont know. every other 3rd rate “pitcher” who has made these “professionals” look just stupid.
Yanks can come back.
Can we trade for some more Pirate hitters?
I think X is the only one on this team that knows how to hit right now.
Everyone else are double play machines!!!
rishi i would have to assume 9. one in each inning max
Hey, if you have a 7.00 ERA, almost a 2:1 BB/K ratio, and have never pitched a great game in your ML career, bring on the Yankees!
Yankees: Making bad pitching look good since 2005
OK, so I’ve only watched every game for about the past 30 years, so I admit that my baseball knowledge is somewhat suspect. Nonetheless, I recall hearing once that there is this thing called the “opposite field” and that the individual who bats in the 4th position for the Yankees has a modicum of power and the ability to hit the ball over the fence in that direction. Would it be conceivable to try to hit a pitch on the outer half of the plate toward right field? Just curious.
what’s the record for the number of DP’s in a game
I heart the X-Man
Oh Robbie. Ugh
Back to work Andy
“This is unreal. We have some seriously, seriously bad karma going on right now.”
Sure feels like it.
A-Rod tries to pull a pitch on the outer part of the plate, and that’s what you get ….
Guys and Ladies,
What don’t we get? It’s 3-0 and its 96 degrees down there. The Yankees have an air-conditioned hotel to get to.
“SJ44
August 5th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
The DP’s just keep piling up. Good God, what an awful offensive baseball team.”
Was that really you, SJ44? Or, do we have another imposter?
I think we should start expecting October baseball without the New York Yankees for the first time in a long, long time.
Here’s to 2009!
the team is pathetic. why doesent someone tell cano that he needs to work deeper into counts. i dont think he has seen more than 5 pitches in an atbat this year.
Jeter needs 25 hits for 2,500 and 11 GIDP for 200 career. Even money on which milestone he reaches first.
This offense will pick it up… I have faith.
Can we stop with this Arod is the best hitter in the league nonsense…. PLEASE….
man our $47 + million dollar left side of the infield is having a huge effort tonight…
you can’t make this up what this team does day in and day out.. the offense today only has salaries of about like $80 mill os you cannot expect much production.. the yare sitting or have injured about $50 mill addtl in salary.
this for 3.5 has been a new low ineptitude.. Harrison is Glavine didn’t you know that?/ His 4 k’s until tonight and like 17 walks was a n illusion the yanks have there usual we have not seen then yet excuse.. the yanks if you did not know are the only team in the league without video players…..
Matt,
You mean when the Rangers came to Yankee Stadium and beat the Yankees two of three at the end of June?
You mean that time? Aside from one outburst, the Yankees did nothing offensively in that series and lost it at home.
Really, unless you are a Red Sox fan just hear to bust chops, stop. You are making Yankee fans look really, really bad.
j – I figured it would be 9…I just wondered what was the most ever recorded in an actual game
I’m ready to buy the goat. Anyone know a voodoo priest?
I just hope Joba is OK. This team offensively is a disgrace.
Can’t be more than nine.
This game the Yankees can’t hit in more than eight, though I think it’s extremely possible for them to do so.
They seriously did something to piss off the baseball g-ds.
Wish I knew what it was.
The Yankees are not an awful offensive team. That would be the Wasington Nationals.
We should have sold a week ago.
Pettitte, Mussina, Giambi, Abreu, Damon
All could have fetched prime prospects.
Sunny,
If they do, it will already be a 6-0 game and they’ll pick it up in the 8th, and then the relief pitchers will promptly give the runs back.
KC tied it up with BOS.
Guess Kennedy is on he’s way.I was so hoping for Zambrano or Eric Milton.
The record for DPs in a game is 6
I think I will switch over to America’s Got Talent. Because this team is really short on it.
SA: One of my old high school teachers used to work as a lawyer and once worked on a Santeria (Voodoo) case. She probably has a number somewhere…
They should have traded A-Rod last summer too. The guy is not a winner. He doesn’t play winning baseball.
American League Averages:
.333 OBP/.415 SLG/ .748 OPS
Derek Jeter:
.343/ .392 / .736
Derek Jeter Salary : $21 million
AL Average Position Player Salary: $ Considerably less mn
Just sayin’
“We should have sold a week ago.”
That would be like giving up. And the Yankees are not quitters. You can’t sell tickets to 4mil people and then NOT go for the gold.
Don’t bother. David Hasselhoff just GIDP.
thanks, Neil…
half-way there, guys!!!
strikes! Please
“A-Rod tries to pull a pitch on the outer part of the plate, and that’s what you get ….”
ARod tries to pull outside pitches a lot these days to make up for an offense that just can’t score.
He’s trying to make up for the lack of production everywhere else and he’s expanding his hitting zone.
He’s been doing it all year, especially with men on base.
I think he’s trying to do what he did last year with all of those big home runs.
But even for him last year was close to a career year. Even the best players aren’t going to have years like that too often.
This team’s offense is so difficult to understand or to fix because as a whole it is far less than the sum of its parts.
Some of the things that get said here early in games are pretty priceless.
“They should have traded A-Rod last summer too. The guy is not a winner. He doesn’t play winning baseball.”
Who do you think would have been able to pick up A-Rod’s 300mil contract?
We make the worst pitchers look like Nolan Ryan and Sandy Koufax.
Once again, another underachieving Yankees team makes a bottom dweller look like a world beater and it keeps up, YEAR after YEAR after YEAR after YEAR…SO FLIPPIN’ OLD !
But I will leave you guys alone now, with all things going downhill….. lol, the yanks are just too pathetic for me to even root against or waste my time on. See you next season.
That’s how you get in a RISP. Wow…Yankees see that HR’s are not the only way.
Just saw a shot of Girardi… he looks like he hasn’t slept since getting to Texas…
Laura,
Trying to have a go at a pennant with the current team was the worst mistake ever. I agree they should have gotten rid of the dead weight, rebuild for ‘09 and take it from there. That would have been a better signal than sticking with this bunch of overpaid has-beens
SJ,
Thanks for proving my point exactly. What were the scores of those two losses ?
3-2, 2-1.
The Rangers cannot score unless aided by this ballpark.
The Yankees are not a good offensive team. It’s hard for them to slug with a team when the home ballpark is such an offensive advantage. They were in an offensive slump at that time, they could score more than 2 or 3 runs. But to ask them to score 6 or 7 every night is a lot more difficult.
And thanks for the kind words. You’re sure making Yankees fans look good by insulting your fellow posters. Way to make Yankees fans look good!
Just because I’m not a butt kisser like the rest of people on here doesn’t mean I can’t say what I think and be right about it as well.
The Rangers have a huge advantage here- HOW CAN ANYONE DENY THAT? They are not the pushover joke teams of 2 or 3 years ago. They are a team that is 2 games behind us in the wild card! We won here because they were awful, not because the ballpark is good for playing in.
Ed,
Montero is the hitting prospect in the organization, IMO. I think he is a man child with the bat.
I have a feeling his future is at first base. He’s still growing and I think he can get to the majors faster as a first baseman than as a catcher. He’s ok behind the plate. However, Austin Romine, the other catcher in Charleston (they alternate between C and DH) is a much better defensive catcher.
So now we need 4 runs to tie it up
wow they get a runner in from 3rd with situational hitting.. what a concept..
this is like our usual loss to the Orioles, or KC, or Cincy, or other crappy teams…
Harrisons WHIP going into this game is over 2…….
Pettitte coming up big again.. Hell he only makes $16 mill, he is a bargain on this team…….
Is this 1988 or 2008?
Tampa Bay and Boston WILL win tonight. Last night was a missed opportunity and tonight is an embarrassment.
I think this all relates to the Curse of Bernie.
this team has rendered me speechless…
I hope this game buries the True Yankee(TM), glory days infatuation once and for all.
True Yankees/”Winners”/Gamers/Etc, when they are needed the most:
Derek Jeter- Killing us
Andy Pettitte: Killing us
Jorge Posada: MIA
Mo: Closers are overrated as by definition you only use them in games that you are 90% likely to win anyway (see article in ESPN by Jim Caple; the only intelligent thing he has written in his entire career)
Who are these Ranger announcers?
The announcer sounds like Beaver Cleaver, and the “commentator” sounds like Eddie Haskell.
I guess PEDitte is experiencing HGH withdrawls. Back on the juice PEDitte !
” So now we need 4 runs to tie it up ” wow, you can count !
” Wow…Yankees see that HR’s are not the only way.”
Sure, we have DP’s and K’s also.
Sometimes you got to know when to fold a losing hand. This year was that time.
They could have stocked the farm system with trading away these high priced, old vets.
You think the Mets could have used Bobby A?
The Phillies Andy P?
Damon, Mussina, Melky, Cano, the list goes on.
They could have reloaded that farm system that isn’t exactly churning out high end talent.
Yankee fans would appreciate that. It isn’t quitting when you do it right.
Ooh, that was a nice play by Robbie.
I’d ask for a run next inning, but right now I’d be okay with just not GIDP’ing.
If I could I’d piss inside each and every one of the water/gatorade bottles these Yankees drink from
That’s it walk the Boggs guy, like he’s son of Wade.
I’d take their entire outfield over ours plus their catcher, 1st and 2nd baseman, and definitely their shortstop.
Let’s just make sure we sign Jeter to a 4-year deal when his contract is up at age 36.
That play that Cano just made was ESPNs favorite play for like a week when another player did it. They’ll probably pretend that this one never happened.
“Trying to have a go at a pennant with the current team was the worst mistake ever. I agree they should have gotten rid of the dead weight, rebuild for ‘09 and take it from there. That would have been a better signal than sticking with this bunch of overpaid has-beens”
Tell that to the 4mil fans who plunked down money for those very expensive tickets.
Right before the trade deadline, the Yankees were playing very well. That led ownership to believe that they had a shot. They went out and did some deals that DID help. Just not enough I guess.
I don’t know; this offense has me scratching my head on a daily basis. Of course, it’s easy for us to be sitting in front of our PCs (or MacBooks) and say what they should have done. We aren’t out there in the heat. We’re not up there at the plate facing guys throwing 95 miles an hour. Maybe the Yankees of old just made it look easier than it actually is.
i told everybody that a-rod is loser and regular season player he cares only about himself and his strippers and the yankees had a chance at trading for longoria wow
Yeah, But CB he used to drive that pitch to right center and that’s where his power is as he extends his arms…..Not sure why he’s trying to yank everything to left….He’s keepin his hands and hips locked , but seems as though he’s rolling over….What the hell, he is A-Rod after all….
This team needs to get younger
What’s the average age, like 34 or something? Look at the Rays. They were really young, they sucked, but look at them now. They’re in the place the Yankees wished they were in.
“I have a feeling his future is at first base. He’s still growing and I think he can get to the majors faster as a first baseman than as a catcher. He’s ok behind the plate. However, Austin Romine, the other catcher in Charleston (they alternate between C and DH) is a much better defensive catcher.”
Amazing. He reads Keith Law too! Passing that off as your own ideas now too, SJ?
“as a whole it is far less than the sum of its parts”
I don’t really agree with this. Molina is a terrible hitter and has had way too many at-bats. Jeter and Cano and Melky have been extremely disappointing. Abreu’s bat stopped producing impressive power back in 2006. Matsui and Posada have missed most of the season. Gardner and Ensberg and Duncan were terrible. ARod has been awesome, and Damon has been good. But other than that, the individual parts have been crap. The whole is the sum of the parts. The parts are not very good.
LOL can you poeple stop with the Yankees should have traded everyone to build a farm system….
Matt the rangers are 2 or 3 games behind the Yanks because the yanks suck..
how can you say the rangers are good with this pitching staff? Yeah they look good against the yankees because the Yanks suck..
People let’s be real this is terrible viewing.. King Derek looks terrible, I like the guy and appreciate all he has done for the team but come on he is not hitting this year…
Arod the best player in the game!!!That is a tag line from his fan club, be real when does he carry a team??? 1 month last year that is it.. he is in his 5th yr.(I think it is 5) he is a numbers guy, all sizzle but no results…
The post game show if this continues tonight should be classic…….
At least he didnt strike out, but that only took 2 pitches.
Rebecca stop with the Santeria nonsense…isn’t that somewhat religious?
Just stop it!
EdFl, Jesus Montero is a prime prospect, probably the Yankees’ best positional prospect. He is only 19 and the youngest player in his league. He hits for a .300 plus average and hits the ball a country mile. Some question whether he will remain a catcher, but he has made great strides this season behind the plate.
Any AB where the Big Sexy doesn’t strike out is a good thing IMO.
this team doesn’t deserve to be in the post season.
Tonight I am very disappointed in this team. Jeter, ARod, et al…come on. This is when we need you guys to step up and get it done. It is obvious that Andy P did not bring his A game by giving up 4 runs after 4.
Swinging at too many first pitches. Swinging at bad pitches. Grounding into double plays.
Some 7 plus ERA rookie pitcher looks like Cy F’ing Young.
The Angels will be frothing at the mouth this weekend.
Harrison is a pitching god
i sense another closed door meeting followed by another loss?
In Pettitte, my faith is starting to wane tho… sigh
Richie Sexson must go. Is John Olerud still available?
“i told everybody that a-rod is loser and regular season player he cares only about himself and his strippers and the yankees had a chance at trading for longoria wow”
you’re an idiot.
“Who do you think would have been able to pick up A-Rod’s 300mil contract?”
Mark Cuban?
Andy has been less dandy off late.. the offense is not helping either..
is it a crazy idea to try Jetes at #1.. Damon will atleast beat out some DP balls..
Matt,
How can a team featuring Arod, Giambi, Nady, Abreu (who has more HR’s after the Break than Josh Hamilton), and Cano, not be considered a power team?
They aren’t a good hitting team. I don’t care where they are playing, they haven’t hit much all year.
You make it sound like its impossible for them to play in this ballpark.
They have OWNED this team over the years in this ballpark. Until the last two days of course.
They are facing the worst pitching staff in the AL. You mean to tell me they can’t hit in Texas, facing the worst pitching staff in the league, because of the ballpark?
How do you explain not hitting against them in NY?
Really, I get the fact you are frustrated because for the first time in your young life, the Yankees are probably not going to make the playoffs.
However, to post nonsenical gibberish, then get upset when you get called on it, really son, get a grip.
Andy Pettitte gave up 9 runs in his last start AT HOME. What was the excuse that night?
The Rangers have no more of a home field advantage than anybody else. They are a good hitting team.
The Yankees used to be a good hitting team. That’s the difference between the two teams right now.
They don’t change the balls and move the fences back when the Yankees bat in Texas. Its ok for them to hit and not GIDP every inning.
The ballpark excuse is so lame. It really is.
Dude is sporting an ERA in the mid sixes and we are playing the DAMN RANGERS….This game, last night’s game, this series we are about to lose…should once and for all show that we are NOT a good team….AGAIN….Get into the playoffs ?…for what ? to get bounced out EASILY again in the 1st round ? Good Night,,,,we stink stink and stink some more !
John Olerud??? Steve Balboni looked good at Old Timer’s Day
It’s these moments where the Yankees are unwatchable. Too many wasted opportunities.
Bring on the Hoff!
“Mark Cuban?”
A-Rod is switching to basketball? Wow. I didn’t know.
Jose Molina swinging at a nice 3-2 pitch in the dirt.
VIN-
The Mets could have used Abreu but apparently short of prospects.
The Yankees did the best they could at the trading deadline, except get a starting pitcher, to keep us in the hunt. The simple fact is we haven’t played good fundamental baseball all year and the injuries have taken their toll, plus the lineup look old and probably feels old at this time of the season.
well atleast no dp this innning
This team fooled the fans near the deadline. The front office apparently wasn’t fooled since they didn’t grab a starting pitcher they needed and didn’t trade any prospect of any note. They had to have seen the run differentials and realized they were a year away.
They just didn’t sell like they should have.
Now we have to watch aging, overpaid players slouch their way thru the hot month and a wasted September.
maybe we can resign oneil and tino. that should bring some life in. lol
OMG, these guys are on some serious crack if they think that Texas will be the Wild Card winner.
does Molina even have abs anymore?
Jesus Montero is 18, and he and his teammates are once again beating the living snot out of the Sox low A team at Greenville tonight.
Well great. I just logged on, looked at Gameday and, hey Pete. Its obviously Andy, not Pudge.
I SAD TO SAY BUT I THINK THE FAT LADY IS SINGING FOR THIS TEAM RIGHT NOW, THEY DO NOT HAVE ATTITUDE, PLAYING LIKE THIS, THER WON’T BE OCTOBER FOR THE YANKS, IT’S TIME TO WAKE UP RIGHT NOW, TOMORROW WILL BE LATE, BAD NEWS EVERYWHERE. SAD LAST SEASON FOR THE CATHEDRAL.
trainer talking to eiland…hmm what could he be saying?
His ERA is just going down down down
Predicted line for the Captain for thsi game:
AB- 5
H- 1 (scratch single in the 9th for a futile rally when 7 runs behind)
GIDP- 2
E- 1
TC- Too numerous to count (TH= Tipping cap in the clubhouse to future HoF, nameless, faceless and chinless pitcher that just shut them down)
I do think Matt protests too much.
clevland just missed a grand slam, by like 2 feet.
Hey, there was no GIDP there!
I’d consider it an improvement.
“I have a feeling his future is at first base. He’s still growing and I think he can get to the majors faster as a first baseman than as a catcher. He’s ok behind the plate. However, Austin Romine, the other catcher in Charleston (they alternate between C and DH) is a much better defensive catcher”
he doesn’t have to read Keith Law. Most yankee fans already know this.
nice try tho.
The Yankees always seems to have difficulties with pitchers they’ve never seen before. Time to stick Irod back in there. Pettitte’s working with Molina hasn’t helped.
“Let’s just make sure we sign Jeter to a 4-year deal when his contract is up at age 36.”
Oh, don’t worry we will. Because it’s more important to this organization to sign old players to absurd contracts just so they remain a Yankee. It’s the Yankee way.
woo – that was pretty lame…
The Yankees don’t have a lot of fight in them and are a fairly emotional team. Something like the thought of losing Joba would have a negative affect on them. They look down. They seem down. I just don’t see any “Let’s Go!” in them tonight. Maybe it’s just me.
j-
are you carzy to sign o’neill and tino? all True Yankess fans know that Scotty Brosius was the heart and soul of those teams.
“Oh, don’t worry we will. Because it’s more important to this organization to sign old players to absurd contracts just so they remain a Yankee. It’s the Yankee way.”
Tell that to Bernie Williams.
“The Mets could have used Abreu but apparently short of prospects.”
What would it have taken?? He’s gone after this year anyway. They might not even offer arbitration because he might actually accept it. They may not even get the picks for him.
You don’t think the Twins could have used him? The White Sox are playing Griffey everyday! The Diamondbacks are desperate for a hitter.
Abreu could have fetched two good prospects. This system could have been restocked and reloaded.
Unless you like watching a dead team go thru the motions.
why does arod get a yankeeography? what are the hilglights?
5 shutout innings from a complete nobody. That is beyond pathetic.
ohhh yankeeography – Alexander Rodriquez — who’s gonna watch?
Vin,
I think that is the thing that is so depressing. This team, right here, is the real Yankees and I was duped into believing they could pull it out. However, they are old, slow, and don’t do the little things that it takes to win games.
note to self:
Find less frustrating past time
call bumper bowling league
Well it’s a good thing we gave up in last nights game.
The only good thing tonight is that Brandon Laird, Austin Romine, Ivan Nova and Carmen Angelini are developing. Here’s a scary thought Igawa about to 9-1 since May 16th
rconn23 — sad, but true
Laura…
mark cuban is default favorite to buy the cubs… so ARod to the cubs cud have happened…
You know the game is going bad when the lead Yankee beat writer doesn’t even care to post anything anymore.
FYI for everyone – Jeter has hit into the 4th most double plays in the league so far this season.
The only players ahead of him are: Vlade Guerrero, Derek Lee, and Adrian Gonzalez. All slow guys.
At what point do the yankees have to move jeter out of the two hole because he has ZERO speed left and can’t beat out anything anymore.
Why is it that every time the Yankees are facing a pitcher they’ve never seen before, they give up before they begin playing? Is it really that hard to take some pitches against a guy with an over-7 ERA and practically no MLB-experience? No matter who the Yankees are playing, if they’ve never seen the pitcher before, they never hit him. It’s absolutely pathetic.
I wish I could watch that Yankeeography. I hope they show that BAL game where he hit that Grand Slam to win it. That was a classic!
The best SS in NY plays in Queens. Sad but true.
Hope the Yankees are watching Freddy Garcia audition.They can sure use him.
Laura-
Bernie ate up at leat two full seasons of valuable ABs past his expiration date.
And I hereby, unilaterally declare a moratorium on all Rays/Bosox scoreboard watching until the boys at least push a run across against future HoFer Mr. Harrison.
At least all those arms will be nice and fresh to mop up tonight
the guy is itching a 3 hitter thru 5 on like 70 pitches.. I am embarresed you think the zillionaires have enough pride to be embarrased???
this is deplorable…
we have been reduced to look at the box scores of Yankee / sux games in Low A ball.. Montero may be up in the majors in 3 years.. Many things can happen in 3 yrs….
In 3 years we can still have the captain doing his thing at SS and other assorted nightmares…Man Jeter is fielding well this year but who would have thunk his hitting would go away like this…….
Laura X -
Unfortunately, if “seasoned” veterans like Jeter, Giambi, Damon, Abreu, etc get so down about a 22-year old rookie that they can’t go out and win a game in the midst of a Wild Card chase/Pennant race, they are morons.
How many times during the past few seasons have our Yankees done well against the best pitchers in the game, and made retreads and rookies look like the second coming of Cy Young?
even hayes reached a world series with the yankees. arod has yet to do that.
Looks like Beckett has his mojo back and Tampa winning, Not a good night for the Yanks.
I’ve written off this season; no way the Yankees make the playoffs. Management should spend the rest of the year really evaluating talent and making smart trades. The “let’s buy a championship” mentality has to stop. That is what put us in the spot we are now. It all started with Giambi, then A-rod, and the list goes on and on. Even my 10 year old can see the glaring mistakes of the recent years, and the big holes in the team.
“mark cuban is default favorite to buy the cubs… so ARod to the cubs cud have happened…”
I don’t see that happening. There are too many people who don’t want Cuban to get the Cubs, most notably Bud Selig.
Nice to see that for the big salary ARod is willing to play 3rd and Short.
Look at AROD playing short…wait..
There those SS skills
Hey, when did Melky get traded to Texas?
nice play by alex…. jeter was just lollygagging
Enough is enough with Joe Girardi and his matchups.
Jason Giambi is better than Richie Sexson, Jason plays. There is a reason Richie Sexson was cut by the WORST team in baseball. He can’t hit. He can’t hit righties and he can’t hit lefties. He has 0 extra base hits as a Yankees. ZERO.
Everyone loves to rip on Melky and say how bad he is. But all he has to do is bat ninth in the order. Not have a .400 OBP or drive in 2 runs a game. That is the job for the top of the order and because they can’t do their job, it makes Melky look bad. There is a reason Justin Christian made his MLB debut at the age of 28. He is a good bench player who should pinch run in the late innings. Not start back to back days for a player who isn’t hurt in the middle of the stretch run in August.
The catching situation is what it is. Some days Molina will hit well and some days Pudge will hit well it really doesn’t matter who plays. But Girardi has turned a great AL lineup into a NL lineup by shortening the lineup to 6 hitters instead of making it somewhat circular. Now isn’t the time to start screwing around when the Yankees are down to two reliable starters and playing an awful pitching team who ranks 29th and 30th in all major pitching categories.
Igawa has 4 walks tonight or more.. 4 walks with his stuff will not work in the adult league.. that is the problem when you look at these minor league #’s..
Igawa has to reduce his walks because his stuff is not good enough, he can get away with it in the little kiddie league but not in the majors…
“Hope the Yankees are watching Freddy Garcia audition.They can sure use him.”
Why, can he hit?
“nice play by alex…. jeter was just lollygagging”
That wasn’t his play. Third Basemen has forward momentum on that. That will always be a 3B play.
JEd-
Not to mention that those guys are all slugging the ball while DJ is slugging .736, and on pace to have over 80 Ks and only 10 stolen bases. He’s been good at laying down the sacrifice in the first inning though. Old School #2 hitter ala Rooster Burleson. Low OBP/No power/No range but good at sac bunting.
YES….let’s walk michael young to get to josh hamilton. he’s the guy we want to face.
Dellin Betances (continues to keep the BB’s down)
6.0 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K’s
This season is sad and not just because we lost Joba for however long. The team got old. Fast.
We have all known the farm system was neglected for a decade. We are starting to realize that now with nothing in the way of positional talent coming up to oush the regulars or even sit on the bench.
We had to sign Richie Sexson. You heard right. because we didn’t even have a 1b in the minor leagues. 1b!! The easiest position to find a bat and for 6 years we can’t even find a caddy for Giambi.
I think we all know Melky should have been traded last winter when his value was sky high.
We could have got Johan Santana for him. Now? We couldn’t get Rafael Santana to play SS for him.
I still believe the Yankees have a chance in this game. It is FAR from over.
Pettitte at 86+ pitches through 5… if we’re lucky he can blank them for 2 more. The Yanks are getting a good luck at harry and hopefully will break through soon…
What happens next year when they raise ticket prices to ungodly levels? At some point, the fans are going to cry uncle. Will they pay $200+ per ticket to watch an aging, apathetic team?
sorry DJ is slugging .392. OPS is .736.
another 2 out walk for andy — not good..
We have to admit that we need a SS next year. Jeter has to move or be traded.
“mark cuban is default favorite to buy the cubs… so ARod to the cubs cud have happened”
maybe it still can.
“he used to drive that pitch to right center and that’s where his power is as he extends his arms…..Not sure why he’s trying to yank everything to left…”
Agreed. It’s a truly amazing thing to watch him hit to the opposite field. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a right handed batter with that kind of opposite field power. Pujols I suppose. Manny is a all time great but even he doesn’t have that kind of opposite field power.
But Alex is at his best when he lets the game come to him. When he does – like he did last year – its astonishing to watch.
But he’s pressing this year and he’s trying to pull the ball much more. I think he’s trying to jack the ball out of the park and has become more pull conscious.
He’s also chasing more bad pitches – both in and out of the zone.
A lefty like Harrison is not going to take risks trying to bore the ball on the inner half of the plate against Alex. He’s going to try to live on the outer half.
Alex is doing him a favor by pulling pitches like that instead of letting his natural talent take over and driving the ball the other way.
It’s an easy problem to describe but power hitters do this all the time.
Had Sexson’s ball been a foot left or right in the 2nd, this would be a ballgame.
Arod and Jeter’s DPs are the ones that really hurt.
How our Captain can continue to snuff out rallies is beyond belief.
Never seen Jeter so anxious, impatient, and frankly, weak.
No way he should be reaching out there to try to pull that ball.
the yanks should have fleeced bay from the pirates also.
That’s another thing we aren’t doing; walking. We used to be near the top in walks. Not this year.
this isn’t emotional or reactional…but this isn’t the Yanks year and the worse part is….they know it.
this is not a good pitching team…but that has mattered very little this year. Jeter, Cano, and Abreu have played sub-par, and Pettite is too inconsistent. Moose has been a great surprise; Damon and Giambi have played up to their caliber. Arod’s stats look good, but they feel so plastic b/c his RISP is so awful.
and despite injuries there was (and possibly still is) a chance.
Good job Pettitte, walk that guy one more time. Last time it worked out great, didn’t it?
These players including Jeter ought to look Tino, Brosius, Cone and O’Neill in the face and apologize for wearing the uniform
Dang, Ellsbury is fast.
now the couch coaches want melky back in and why is giambi getting the night off.
GIAMBI IS GETTING THE NIGHT OFF FOOL BECAUSE; HE IS LUG, WHO CANNOT PLAY DAY IN AND DAY OUT WITHOUT GETTING HURT OR BE INNEFECTIVE. HE ALSO IS HITTING UNDER 200 WITH RISP, SO HE IS NOT EXACTLY LOU GEHRIG…GIAMBI HAS GOTTEN DEHYDRATED NUMEROUS TIMES IN HIS CAREER HOWWOULD HE DO PLAYING THE FIELD IN 98 DEGREES OR MORE MULTI DAYS IN A ROW???
UNDERSTAND MORONS>>>>>
CaptainDP!!!!
Sweet….rain is coming….end this misery.
“the guy is itching a 3 hitter thru 5 on like 70 pitches.. I am embarresed you think the zillionaires have enough pride to be embarrased???”
He 5 hit the team with the best record in baseball thru 7 last month.
it starts now…3 runs in the sisth,,,
couple more in the 7th
Brandon – your prediction for this game re the offense? Not so much…so far…
Ott:
Too bad Reyes is a spoiled brat.And you never saw Jeter throw he’s glove on the floor and B*tch over a throwing error.
Too bad Reyes doesn’t have class.
Andy Pettite,
bless him, what a pitcher he used to be. This is hard watching him now. Sort of like Whitey after 1964.
I will say this, unless the Yankees do some very smart horse trading this offseason, this team is starting to remind me of 1965 and 1966. Everyone started getting old at the same time with no young replacements.
It’s not our year. It happens.
“We have to admit that we need a SS next year. Jeter has to move or be traded.”
I see this here on the blog every single day and I have to laugh. No way are the Yankees trading or moving Jeter. It’s not going to happen. Jeter may one day move off of SS, but it ain’t this year or the next.
“I think we all know Melky should have been traded last winter when his value was sky high.
We could have got Johan Santana for him. Now? We couldn’t get Rafael Santana to play SS for him”
why do you post this?
you left out wang and kennedy, from the trade offer.
“These players including Jeter ought to look Tino, Brosius, Cone and O’Neill in the face and apologize for wearing the uniform”
Its comments like this that sometimes makes me a self-loathing yankees fan.
“I think we all know Melky should have been traded last winter when his value was sky high.
We could have got Johan Santana for him. Now? We couldn’t get Rafael Santana to play SS for him.”
Are you an idiot or a troll? I’m leaning troll, but wow, that’s stupid.
Melky for Johan? Yes, Yankees would have done that in a heartbeat.
Betances Final line
6.2 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7 K’s
(Man if he keeps the walks down he’s going to be special)
Why they thought they could go into the season with a Centerfielder who can’t hit is beyond me.
3rd time through the order we gotta do something here
I thaught Cy Young retired long time ago. I didn’t know he was pitching for Texas Rangers.
Okay, this is their third go round. They should know what this guy is going to throw by now.
Sorry Pete…..
“These players including Jeter ought to look Tino, Brosius, Cone and O’Neill in the face and apologize for wearing the uniform”
post of the evening.
Hey! guess what? Jeter can’t GIDP here!
A step at a time.
Jeter can’t GIDP now.
Plate the run please.
Damn was I the only one who thought Murphy caught that
Damon’s still got the wheels, too!
wow….some luck for us?
Laura,
Don’t worry, school will be back in session soon and logic will again take over the blog.
I for one, am voting for year round school in the metropolitan area! lol
Derek Jeter isn’t going anywhere. Nor is Arod. Both guys have no trade clauses and have no interest in leaving NY.
Folks may be able to trade them in their video games or on their fantasy teams.
But, in the real world, both guys will be Yankees next year.
No DP for Derek here. LOL!
John Sterling: “It is HIGH! It is FAR! It’s is… CAUGHT! No, it’s off the wall!”
“Are you an idiot or a troll? I’m leaning troll, but wow, that’s stupid.
Melky for Johan? Yes, Yankees would have done that in a heartbeat.”
Was Melky in the Hughes package for Santana???
Get some brains before you come on here posting like you know something. You just embarrass yourself, troll.
I thought he caught that too.
Oh my god, you can’t give Jeter an easier situation to drive in a run. It’ll be interesting to see if Jeter can find a way not to get it in here.
“I thaught Cy Young retired long time ago. I didn’t know he was pitching for Texas Rangers.”
Clever. Never seen that posted on here before…
Hard to hit into a DP with man on 3rd!
our worst mistake was letting pettite go in 2003. that move cost us the 2004 playoffs against boston
PLEASE TAKE A STRIKE…..DONT SWING
Jeter can’t GIDP now.
Never say never, your talking about the master at the Turn 1 play
“Some days Molina will hit well and some days Pudge will hit well it really doesn’t matter who plays.”
Do you really believe this? If it didn’t matter, the Yankees wouldn’t have traded for Pudge. The truth is, even at this stage of his career, Pudge is a much better hitter than Jose Molina. It’s not even close. Jose Molina is fine as a backup catcher, but he is just an absolutely terrible hitter and hurts the team if you need him to play more than 2 games a week.
lets go yankee chant….
LOL you never know what kind of dp he might hit in to
A run, a run, my kingdom for a run!
Laura-
Jeter my definitely have to move off SS some day. Soon. Maybe he can slide over to 1B because we haven’t had a corner infielder slugging uner .400 since Cash was forced to DFA Minky and Cairo so Torre would stop running them out there.
If Jeter truly was a team player he would have began the transition to centerfield when ARod was originally signed. Now, he barely hits enough to play even there unless he is an above average defender, which is tough to do at his age.
“Don’t worry, school will be back in session soon and logic will again take over the blog.”
Another case of SJ being overly optimistic
Wow….he did his job.
BTW…ANDY HAWKINS???? ARE THE RANGERS KIDDING ME?? Although Harrison is Cy Young tonight.
Well at least they can’t say he shut us out
“Never say never, your talking about the master at the Turn 1 play
”
that was a lucky run and the yanks know it. damon hit a ball that just missed being caught
Betances Final line
6.2 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7 K’s
(Man if he keeps the walks down he’s going to be special)
Betances is about 4 years from the major leagues. A lot can happen in 4 years.
Everyone loves to talk about Tino and Brosius and O’Neill and Knoblauch, but the fact of the matter is, the Yankees won because they had great starting pitching.
They had Pettitte, Cone, Wells, Clemens, and El Duque and other reliables as well.
Their pitching was so good that the Yankees hit .183 against Arizona in the 2001 World Series and had an ERA of 4.26 to Arizona’s 1.94 and it still took a bloop single with the infield in for the Yankees dynasty to be stopped.
Tino, Brosius, O’Neill and the gang didn’t win the four rings. Starting pitching did.
If you look at the pitching since the start of 2004 it has been almost comical to read the rotation names and the fact that the Yankees have 100+ win seasons more than once since then is even more astonishing.
I want to apologize to (most of) you, it’s my fault that the Melky-for-Santana deal fell through. I told Cashman that I liked my ‘got melky?’ shirt too much to stop wearing it and he put the kibosh on the deal.
cleavland come back in the 7th. first and third and zero outs.
Want to add to the Joba enigma. Read the Star-Ledger’s report.
Chamberlain on Tuesday was examined by Yankees team physician Stuart Hershon in New York and “underwent a number of tests, including an MRI,” according to the team.
“He’s fine,” Harlan Chamberlain said.
Asked how serious the injury is, Harlan said, “Don’t know yet. Time will tell.”
SJ, I’ve got to disagree with you about Romine being a better catcher than Montero. I’ve seen about 40 of the Charleston games this year and just from what I’ve seen from the two, Montero has played better defense than Romine…throwing out runners, fewer passed balls and fewer errors. So far this year, Montero has been doing more catching, also. Romine has the reputation of being the better defensive of the two, but, I haven’t seen it, yet. The good thing about Romine, though, is that he’s hitting better than expected. I think that the Yanks are looking at Laird as the future 1st baseman. Another homer tonight with 3 RBI.
As I type this, Romine has been hurt in the game.
Vin-
Looking backwards, if they had not run off that 8 game streak, I agree that it would have made sense to trade as many FA’s to be as possible, for preferably position players that would be more developed than what we would get in draft picks.
Abreu might have gone to the Dodgers, instead of Manny.
Mussina-maybe the Phils would have enticed him to waive his NTC.
Pettitte might have gone back to Houston-they were buyers. Why?
Farnsworth would have fetched prospects instead of a player they won’t resign.
Giambi would not have been able to be traded with his 5M buyout unless the Yankees ate most of his salary, and I doubt if anyone would still have wanted or needed him.
Damon might have fetched some value, while Matsui would not, until proven healthy.
The simple fact is, that retrospectfully, we were in the chase for a playoff spot, where in past years the wild card has often made it to the WS.
Now we just need 4 more runs please
Wow, Jeter actually hit a fly ball to get the run in. Haven’t seen that in forever, it seems like.
hey anyone else listen to these goons on the rangers broadcast?
ever since i moved i must admit i miss the yes broadcasters
Nick, aren’t you also a self-professed Communist?
This is why you start your A lineup.
Giambi should be out there for 5 at bats against a rookie.
You call those BOOS Texas hang your head in shame !
NY >>> TEX
“our worst mistake was letting pettite go in 2003. that move cost us the 2004 playoffs against boston”
No. Letting Pettite walk was what got us Phil Hughes, since he turned out to be the draft compensation for Andy.
And even more importantly, Andy Pettitte was injured in 2004. He missed more than half the season, and didn’t pitch after mid-August. This is partly why the Yankees got rid of him. They knew his arm was a bit fragile and injury-prone. But anyway, he wasn’t healthy in October 2004, so he would not have helped them avoid defeat.
Vin-
You are correct. It was not Melky for Santana. The last offer I saw was the Yankees relenting to Melky + Hughes + Kennedy, but the Twins shopped it so Hank pulled the offer.
J, Andy only pitched in 15 games, winning six, in 2004 for Houston. The Yankees didn’t resign him because they were afraid he’d be hurt – and he was.
Wow. Wow. Wow.
WILL HE STOP TRYING TO PULL OUTSIDE PITCHES???!
J, deep breaths… It’s time to let go of 2004. Here’s some good news: Cleveland is threatening and KC just got out of a jam in the 5th.
GB: For real?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!
No, the Yankees are looking bad, you tool!
Man, I hate opposing team announcers.
arod has hit the ball about 180 feet in total today.
crap… wasted opportunity. work the pitcher…
well they have 4 runs on 4 hits, while the bombers have 1 run on 4 hits with three DP’s…..we are not a disciplined team.
keep on pulling that pitch A-Rod, you’re doing great
If we aren’t careful, this road trip will bury us.
Relax, the Yankees are coming back in this game.
JUST FIRE KEVIN LONG ALREADY !
Neil-
I hope you didn’t think I wa sserious about the good old days of Scott Brosius and Tino. Of course it was the pitching. And a healthy dose of luck in winning almost every close game (yes including 2001 until the last one).
And a whole lot of Mo!
Anybody check out the Tribe’s starting line-up tonight?
6 of the 9 are hitting under .245!
(still can’t believe we lost to those bozos last year)
Actually Craig, when John Olereud went down in that series, I think game three, we were stuck with strikeout artist Tony Clark at first. I think that made a huge difference. Also we signed the wrong DH that was available-Giambi instead of Ortiz.
“Nick, aren’t you also a self-professed Communist?”
Um, no. Quite the opposite.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn R.I.P.
Laura — you’re absolutely right. And the trip only gets tougher in 3 days.
Now we really know why Jeter called his foundation “Turn Two”.
He just never told us it was about his offense, not defense.
in the 90’s there was also fire within the team. players would show their emotions and play each game hard. you dont see that anymore on the yanks.
squeezed again…jesus…where is this umpire looking?
I take back all the bad things I have said tonight about our left side of the infield tonight. they got a sac fly.. arod 3 and 1 on Glavine rips the ball to 3rd .
7.94 was the ERA of Glavine going into tonights battle..
seriously I hope is going to save this game for a yankee classic.. how can any reasonable observers remotely like what they see in this team…
Pettitte looks terrible…
Betances who is three levels from the bigs, is not going to take 4 years to get there if he stays healthy. In fact, if he gets the walks and mechanics under control he will start moving quickly.
Is Marlon Byrd even good…or are the Yankees making him look good too?
Yankee Trader,
Looks like we got fooled by a hot streak. I haven’t seen much of a playoff time all season here especially with all the key injuries that we have had. Stranger things have happened and I’ll take my chances with Boston and TB right now.
But sometimes you got to pull a Billy Beane and take 1 step back to take 3 forward. Especially with 90+ mill coming off the books to retool. This wouldn’t have been a long rebuild job. Could have been younger, leaner, and faster in the new ballpark. But that would have taken some major cajones.
They could have got creative and moved Cano too. He could have pulled a nice haul of A prospects.
that’s the end for pettitte methinks.
Only fitting that when the Yankees finally score a run, Pettitte goes out and gives it right back.
Alex Rodriquez, as clutch as the games has to offer.
Yankee Trader, I long have ontended what you just stated: Losing John Olerud really was a key to losing that series. Weird as that sounds!
Weird comments by Hank Steinbrenner and Harlan about Joba.
Hank: “‘It’s too bad, but it happens,” Steinbrenner said. “Hopefully everything will be okay. ‘We really don’t know yet on Joba for sure.’”
Harlan: “‘He’s fine,’ Harlan Chamberlain said.
“Asked how serious the injury is, Harlan said, ‘Don’t know yet. Time will tell.’”
just terrefic the rfally in tampa has been squashed. there was 1st and third and zero outs, and they managed a strikeout and a pop out.
J,
I agree with you about the “fire”. I don’t see a passion in the players. They don’t all have to slam their helmets like O’Neill, or pump their fists like Tino…but some fight would be nice.
Bad tag by Jeter.
I mean seriously when this team goes cold it trickles down and spreads how the hell is it that a batting coach can get off this whole season. Show some balls send a message and fire Long already.
Marlon Byrd is not good. Not even close to good. At least he wasn’t before yesterday.
oh come on. Wake up out there!
or not.
The Star Ledger piece also says that it was the yankees who requested the second opinion from Andrews rather than Joba himself or his agents:
“Cashman said the second opinion is being sought at the team’s request, not Chamberlain’s.”
http://www.nj.com/yankees/index.ssf/2008/08/new_york_yankees_offer_no_deta.html
TKinDC
The Indians were not a team of bozos last year. If we had won the “midges ” game we might have well gone on in the playoffs.
Marlon Byrd is Ted Williams all of a sudden. Or actually he is just hitting the way that our 1-4 hitters suppose to.
Meanwhile CLE has 1st and 3rd with NO OUTS against TB and now they have TWO outs with no runs in.
Nick SF, I was kidding. In the spirit of your irony about apologizing for Cashman’s blunder in not trading for Santana.
So,man on 2nd, nobody out…Texas will certainly get the run in, right?
“Betances who is three levels from the bigs, is not going to take 4 years to get there if he stays healthy.”
He’ll be up sometime in 2011 if he stays healthy.
Short answer: Marlon is not that good.
Meanwhile, the Mets blow-pen is about to blow it again.
I almost feel bad for them.
“They could have got creative and moved Cano too.”
There’s a difference between creative and stupid. This is another common post that I see that has me scratching my head. As frustrated as Cano can be, his potential makes him a keeper. Add in that we don’t have a suitable replacement for him and their decision to keep him is clear.
Yup…because they are doing the little things. Get a run, give up a run. Typical. I’m sick.
im pretty convinced now that girardi has no idea how to handle pitchers…
Maybe I’ll watch the Mets game-at least it will make me laugh.
Heilman just gave up a 3 run HR in the 9th. Mets now lead 6-5
now should be the end for AP
We have a Hall of Fame
3b
SS
closer
catcher
borderline hall of famers at
original catcher
moose,pettite
we got all stars at 1b,lf,rf,dh,2b
and we are in 3rd place
who gets the blame? manager?
The Royals need to snap out of it. Beckett is looking too relaxed out there.
the only person on the yanks with any fire left is their manager. he has had some epic arguements this year.
My road trip forecast is the Yanks will win 2, lose 8. They will fall to 8 or 9 behind Tampa, 5 behind Boston. And with that, I bid you all goodnight and good luck with the stomach after seeing this nausea inducing team.
Time for Andy to call it a night and regroup for the Halos game.
KS,
Read the Hank quote in that story. Doesn’t sound great.
Sounds to me like the Yankees are sending the pictures to Andrews (along with Joba) to confirm their diagnosis.
Not exactly sounding chipper.
GB,
I’ve seen a lot of Charleston games myself this year. Romine’s mechanics behind the plate are much better than Montero’s.
Montero has improved but, he’s not the defensive catcher Romine is. I also think Romine’s long term prospects behind the plate are better than Montero’s.
Romine lost a lot of time to injury this year. That set him back working with a lot of the pitchers.
Montero may be closer to 6-5, 6-6 by next season. IMO, he’s outgrowing the catching position.
It will be interesting to see what the Yankees do with him. His bat is so good, I could see him progressing quickly through the system and I don’t think they will want catching to be an impediment to that.
Thanks for NOTHING, Andy.
Until last year Pettite was very good 2nd half pitcher. Not so this year atleast so far. Did the HGH shipping didn’t arrive this year? Just makes me suspicious.
The Yankees have actually succeeded in making Texas look like a well-disciplined, finely honed, opportunistic team. That is not an easy feat. Can I shout “refund” for a game I’m not attending?
I don’t know why I waste so many hours of my day in connection to this team.
I think I’ll be seeing Jeter hit into double plays in my sleep tonight. For $21 million, I could do that.
DISGRACE
ZMAN–
I’ll take Marlon Byrd and their entire outfield over ours!
Weird stuff, CB, the Ledger report would seem to make any speculation superfluous. It belies all of the pessimistic conclusions, on the one hand, and on the other, it contradicts itself.
WTF Bobby? had plenty of time. Also, great job by Pettitte, what a gamer!!
“The Indians were not a team of bozos last year. If we had won the “midges †game we might have well gone on in the playoffs.”
YT -
I would have used a more specific description but the FCC would come after me. Although like ‘midges’ it starts with m and ends with s.
I hate to be negative, but this team just looks dead. I’m embarrassed to watch them play if they can’t perform at a decent level. Here’s to 2009 I suppose.
we have so many all stars yet figgins and byrd are the guys that stand out in these past games
Rangers are making the Yankees look like a last place fish. The Texas announcers are absolutely beside themselves crowing about how they are beating the “mighty Yankees.”
This ballclub looks like a defeated team right now.
rally is over in tampa, and they got nothing. havent they heard of a squeeze play? nobody plays small ball anymore.
I love Andy, but can we stop with the “big-game pitcher” stuff once and for all?
I’m interested: which is higher, the number of times Jeter GIDPs, or the number of times the Mets bullpen blows a lead?
“Actually Craig, when John Olereud went down in that series, I think game three, we were stuck with strikeout artist Tony Clark at first. I think that made a huge difference. Also we signed the wrong DH that was available-Giambi instead of Ortiz.”
I don’t disagree with any of this. I was just disagreeing with the guy that said not having Pettitte was the reason the Yanks lost in 2004, since it is clearly a false claim.
Andy Pettite…can you say…done. No more Yankees contracts. With the new ballpark, they REALLY need to start anew.
Andy the gamer. Can’t wait for his “I stunk or I let the team down. I have one job to give this team a chance to win and I didn’t do it.”
Andy makes roughly $500,000 a start and now has a 12.23 ERA in his last two starts (and it could be higher if Murphy scores). So much for that BIG second half pitcher who can’t even turn in a quality start.
I’m not being apathetic, but this is not good considering this is the first week of August…….And the loss of John Olerud killed the Yanks in 04….However had Tony Clark’s ground rule double not just cleard the wall, then there would never had game 6 or game 7…..Still the organization has never fully recovered from that debacle
when I was little my folks made me eat creamed codfish over boiled potatoes That is why I hate the Red Sox.
Even the Hank quote, SJ, seems to imply two different conclusions.
On the one hand, Hanks says, “It’s too bad, but it happens….Hopefully everything will be okay.
On the other hand, Hank says, “”We really don’t know yet on Joba for sure.”
I understand people getting hurt etc, but when the stuff you count on (Pettite actually giving his team a chance to win and the offense actually doing their job) falls apart, how are you supposed to have any sort of hope…
when are the announcers going to say something to this affect”man the yanks tink” that was a terrible effort and these guys should be arrested for theft of there paychecks???
If you are a fan of the pirates or some other bad team you can accept it your team is just not that talented or the other teams have bigger payrolls, what can we hang our hats on? Jeter at 34 going on 35 will turn things around next year.. Arod who has never won anything will do it next year? etc..
the good things for this year are; seeing guys like robertson play, joba improve, and Damon have a good year.. things like that watching the every day lineup is bad watching.
Just think we get 9 more years of the best player in the game, where can I sign up for more Charlie hayes and scott brosius????
well even though pettite was hurt, brown did not do much to help at all.
Yankee Trader — at this point, it’s hard to argue with you. Before yesterday, he was Marlon “Lady” Byrd. Now, he’s Honus Wagner.
I would say that the Yankees should feel embarrassed, but with their salaries, it probably takes an awful lot to feel discouraged.
I’m pretty sure Pettite hurt his arm in 2004 while hitting.
This game looks bad. Guys are running wild on Pettite last 2 games.
I think this team needs some PED’s.
Cano should have been the first one on the trading block. He is a young player tied to an affordable contract. Makes him very attractive to all teams.
His lazy play and bad instincts and his lack of improvement are startling. The NY nightlife certainly doesn’t help.
He could have fetched at least 3 good prospects and probably one prime caliber one.
2b is an easy position to fill. He’ll outgrow the position anyway and end up in LF. Where is bat won’t separate him.
Ugh. Now Boston’s offense is coasting. I can’t watch that game anymore.
yeah
What was it about Sexson’s recent performance that warranted a start tonight?
Ok, everyone, step away from the ledge. “screaming” on computer screen or at each other isn’t helping. (Btw..Jeter, gidp and all is the only one who has driven in a run so far this evening…)
we should have been sellers – ok – they took a shot – bad luck, poor play, age, whatever, has conspired against this team. let it go and hopefully they position themselves for two-three years from now.
Okay D-Rob, tonight is your night to give up a GS and make your manager look stupid because he left you in there too long.
another short start for the starter… bullpen blown to itty bitty pieces…
this game is still winnable so it concerns me that the bullpen is going to get abused… *-)
brown in the 2004 alcs 3.33 innings and 9 runs allowed. id take pettite with a bad elbow anyday.
All the talent in the world, but no heart. That’s a recipe for a team that won’t go anywhere when it counts.
This was the series they should have won 3/4 EASILY in. Pettitte, Joba, and Moose all going in it. And what happened? They could lose 3/4 the rate they’re going. 1-3 in Texas and they will be done and buried. You aren’t coming back from 5 or 6 back of any race with this team the way it’s constructed.
It’s not Girardi’s fault. How can he make these guys hit in the cluch and not hit into double plays? They have no heart, no fire, no guts.
You get this team down, they stay down. Any deficit and they bury themselves with horrible at bats and lack of plate discipline. This team can’t come back unless the circumstances are PERFECT like Sunday and the other team gives them 5 outs in an inning.
What a pathetic player Sexson is.
So tomorrow, we’ll have to listen to 4 hours of them going over why they dumped Ponson. Great.
Don’t worry fans.
We got 8 more on the road. 6 against first place teams.
Stuart,
I am under the impression that the YES announcers are under a gag order to ever say the Yankees look like crap. I agree with you 100%.
They look dead in the water, lifeless, defeated, depressed, and any other word that reflects “beaten” and “loser”-y
jeter deserves a medal he hit the ball to the outfield with a man on 3rd and no outs!!!!!!
Holy crap my eyes are mistaken he actually is playing well…..
so we Int BB the #8 to get to the #9 and hope for a DP, b/c I sure don’t want to see Kinsler up there with RISP
The series that cost us the playoffs most likely will be looked back and seen to be the BALTIMORE series at home. When the Red Sox get swept by the Angels at home, and you lose 2/3 to the last place Orioles at home, goodnight playoffs. All the games they lost to Texas, Cincy, Baltimore, and the like at home and all the games they “threw away” because it “didn’t matter” because it was ONLY April, May, June, July, or August, are the reason they are going to miss the playoffs unless they wake up and play with some heart for once.
SJ, another thing to keep in mind, Hank, whatever you may think about him, is neither reticent nor discreet.
Hank is still rebelling against the Old Man’s secrecy policy.
He’s more forthcoming than anyone else in the organization.
Maybe, the Yankees really don’t know as yet what to make of Joba’s MRI.
“Ok, everyone, step away from the ledge. “screaming†on computer screen or at each other isn’t helping.”
Why should we?
We lost our 2 aces.
Team has no heart.
No one can hit with RISP.
The manager never pushes a right button.
Why should we not yell and scream? Isn’t that why we are here?
“It belies all of the pessimistic conclusions, on the one hand, and on the other, it contradicts itself.”
It does. I have no basis for saying this at all and I try not to speculate on injuries but this is Joba so it’s tough not to wonder.
Gut feeling from reading those strange, mixed quotes is that he’s out for the season but it isn’t career threatening.
They called Harlan because in the past he’s been very vocal about Joba saying things the team wouldn’t necessarily want to.
I don’t think he’d say Joba was “fine” if he had a career threatening injury.
But at the same time neither he nor Hank sound real enthusiastic.
SJ, just going on what I’ve seen from the two. Obviously, if Montero gets any taller, he won’t catch on a regular basis, but, I’d still like to see him get time behind the plate. It would give NYY a nice option to have another multi-positional player, to eliminate having to carry three catchers again. I just wasn’t that impressed with Romine’s catching. Do love Laird’s defense at first and that bat is something. A swing that would remind old timers of Moose Skowren. Average and right handed power to all fields.
So much for the DP. This team looks really “into the game”
TB won. BOS winning. Not a great night.
Barring a comeback the Yankees HAVE to win the next two games in Texas before they go to LA and MIN. I was hoping for a 6 or 7 win road trip and now 5-5 would be incredible.
KS,
Sounds like Hank is dying to say something but is following the party line of saying nothing until the Andrews consult.
I just hope he doesn’t need surgery. Shoulder surgery ain’t pretty.
If its an injury that is season ending, requiring no surgery, and an off-season rehab/strengthening program (a la Papelbon after 2006), that’s good news for me.
I just don’t want to hear “shoulder surgery” in any sentence involving Joba.
That would be devastating.
that just goes to show how bad this team is when molina is missing balls that are thrown to him
I’ve seen Cashman lauded here many times. Yet he contructed this team; he grossly overpaid Giambi, Damon, Pavano, Igawa, A-Rod, Posada, etc., etc., etc. I really hope he’s shown the door.
We are screwed. Sox cruising and Rays getting out of jams left and right. Meanwhile we got schooled by a rookie with an ERA north of 7.00 and we cannot do anything about it.
This game is about to get ugly…
I wonder how Yankee fans will handle Jeter being a $20M singles hitter with a .690 OPS for the next 2 years.
well crap. with pettitte out – should pudge be in too?
This isn’t going to be pretty, is it?
And this is why you win a game you are leading 3-0 against Vicente Padilla.
Texas really needs to get over themselves. If they wanted to impress someone, perhaps they shouldn’t be 12 games behind LAA.
blah blah blah blah blah GRRRRRRRGRRRR blah blah blah blah GROWL blah blah blah blah GRRRRRGRRRRR blah bah blah blah GROWL blah blah blah….
I am flying from LA to NY for the friday and saturday game against Toronto at the end of august. I am paying for 7 tickets about $900 and flying across the country to see my team before they close the stadium..
Because I am a lunatic fanatic it is worth it but what other person with a brain would pay that type of money to see this garbage???
Robertson is getting a education as we watch…
nice wild pitch..
Another thing to keep in mind about why Cano will probably get moved in the off season or at least discussed.
Jeter needs someplace to play and soon. Even he knows he can’t play SS forever. And the Yanks cannot afford to let themselves get held hostage like the Birds and Ripken.
He may have to slide over to 2b.
And if you can trade Cano for say Chad Billinglsey you may really think about it.
can it get any worse?
ugh i dont want to see the bp give up a granny in 3 straight games
Maybe Ron Washington will put Warner Madrigal in again an do us a favor.
Last night and tonight are the games you HAVE to win if you want to make the playoffs. You FIND A WAY to win these games and stop sitting around making excuses for yourselves. Well guess what, they haven’t won these games, and it’s worth a 2 game swing in the standings so far since they could have gained yesterday and will lose ground today.
All these “give up” “give away” “who cares it doesn’t matter it’s only X month” games add up when the team plays like it does. Every give up game and thrown away game is a game that is burying us now.
So we really think this guy should have been brought in last night?
Here comes the GS!
Yankeenate…I have a feeling it is about to get worse, but thats just me
Sorry. I thought that TB won. It was TOR that won. TB is winning though.
Laura:
do they not play 9 inning baseball in tampa, i am watching that game it seems to be in the 7th inning 4 – 3 rays.
Oh my goodness gracious David
I wish we were playing those hapless Angels again instead of this class team.
uh oh
Stick the fork in ‘08.
man o man kinsler just missed hitting two pitches 500 ft +
I Googled the phrase Misery Loves Company and this blogs URL appeared first.
i understand a team desiring to build for the future, but the Yanks timing might be off b/c the player development doesn’t appear to happening prior to the veterans talent dropping off
NongEye-
You know if Andy really has a desire to pitch in the new ballpark next season, I have some suggestions:
1. Pitch like an Ace, and sign a 1 year deal.
2. Retire and come back for Old timers Game.
3. Retire and come back for a home game to throw out the first pitch.
4. Retire and sneak into the park before the season starts and throw a few pitches.
5. Retire and dream about pitching in New Yankee Stadium.
6. Sign with another team in the offseason, that has an away game at Yankee Stadium.
7. Retire and become the Yankees bullpen coach.
I’m sorry. Did I miss any????????
joe should be like lou p call of his team and say you dont preform that people from a ball will come up and replace them
GB7 –
Any opinion of Bradley Suttle? I root for Longhorns.
This is what happens when a guy rots in the pen without pitching for 6 days.
Hmm that 2-2 pitch was a strike. Funny, isn’t it, how we can never get calls from umpires in big spots?
Pettitte with two horrendous outings when we really needed him.
“And if you can trade Cano for say Chad Billinglsey you may really think about it.”
I may be crazy, but I just don’t see the Yankees moving Cano. I think that they see him as the 2B of the future. He stinks this year because he’s trying to play up to the contract. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not 100% better next season. Yes, he’ll start slow, but he’ll turn it on in the 2nd half…and not just for a week either!!!
wow big k from D-Rob there throwing fastball after fastball there
Heeeeeeee, struck him out!
Please stop blaming the umps.
Gee, I wonder if we stink at hitting and pitching against the hapless Rangers,,,if we somehow make the playoffs, how CRAPPY will we play against a REAL baseball team. Enjoy your 2008 New York (we play like Cubs of old) Yankees….Wa-Hoooo ! We s*ck !!!
woot.
GB7,
What’s your impression of Laird’s swing? I had very high hopes for him coming into this season. He absolutely raked in high school in what’s arguably the best high school ball in the country (out Pat M’s way at Westminster) and then was fantastic at a very good junior college. Great late round pick.
And of course Boras is his agent and Boras isn’t wasting his time on a guy who he doesn’t think has talent.
I’ve been real happy to see Laird hit with so much power – at 20 he’s not particularly old for low A.
But I’m a little surprised to see him not hit for better contact.
Does his swing seem to have any major holes to you? Is it lack of plate discipline/ pitch recognition? (his OBP isn’t very good – like a lot of young players) Is his swing long?
Pettitte didn’t get hurt in 2004 from hitting:
“Through most of this season, Andy Pettitte’s desire to help his team stay in the playoff hunt helped to numb the nagging pain he felt in his elbow with every start.
But eventually, the left-hander knew he had to come to terms with the inevitable — his condition isn’t going to improve this year, and it’s time to fix the problem instead of simply hoping it won’t get worse.
So Pettitte’s frustrating year officially came to an end on Wednesday, when the Houston Astros announced that the left-hander will undergo surgery to repair the torn flexor tendon in his left elbow.”
http://astros.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20040818&content_id=831310&vkey=news_hou&fext=.jsp&c_id=hou
WOW
Heeeeeeee, struck him out again!
Yankee Trader -
I think you hit every one. I was trying to come up with a witty remark, but I couldn’t. It’s time to turn the page.
Can the Yanks feed off of David Robertson???
well roberston just injected some life into this team, can it carry over?
Could have had that last night
sit down!
“I am flying from LA to NY for the friday and saturday game against Toronto at the end of august. I am paying for 7 tickets about $900 and flying across the country to see my team before they close the stadium..
Because I am a lunatic fanatic it is worth it but what other person with a brain would pay that type of money to see this garbage???”
You’re seriously complaining about this?
Honestly sell your tickets to people who’ll appreciate what an opportunity that is.
Wow, clutch from Robertson!
Maybe he should have been pitching last night after all…(only joking, I know there’s a good reason he didn’t)
Yeah, it was a good thing he didn’t come in with the bases loaded last night. We might of had a chance at winning the game!
Hey, maybe Robertson CAN pitch with the bas