Game 113: Yankees at Rangers
Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 05, 2008 
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YANKEES (61-51)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Nady DH
Cano 2B
Sexson 2B
Molina C
Christian CF
Pettitte LHP
Andy Pettitte (12-8, 4.18) vs. the Texas hitters.
Matt Harrison (2-2, 7.40) has never faced any of the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees have lost six of their last nine. … The Big G goes 3 for 4 with a homer and two RBI and has to sit against Matt Harrison? Meanwhile, interesting that Pettitte got shelled the last time with Pudge Rodriguez catching and now Molina is catching him. … Harrison is a 22-year-old lefty who has made five starts. … Nady is 12 of his last 23 with eight runs scored, 11 RBI and four homers. … Abreu has reached base safely in 23 straight games. … The Yankees have hit nine homers in their last three games.
IT’S GETTING LATE EARLY: After today’s game, only 49 games will be left. That’s 30 percent of the season.
TEXAS TWO-STEP: The Yankees have traditionally given savage beatings to Texas, going 20-6 against them from 2005-07. But they are 1-3 against the Rangers this season.
NO WORD YET: Still waiting on the Joba. Do not expect anything definite today. The Yankees tend to break bad news in small doses. I’ll update the blog as soon as I hear anything.
Back later with updates.
* * * * * * 6:34 p.m. UPDATE ON JOBA CHAMBERLAIN * * * * * *
Chamberlain had an MRI today in New York. The Yankees would not reveal what it showed. However, Joba is being sent to Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., for another examination tomorrow.
Girardi did not say who would start on Saturday. The first name he mentioned as a possibility was Darrell Rasner
UPDATE, 6:41 p.m.: Just spoke to Brian Cashman. He said the Yankees know what the images showed but until they hear from Andrews, they’re not going to reveal what that is.
It’s safe to say the MRI showed something. Otherwise Chamberlain wouldn’t be going to see Dr. Andrews. Will Carroll made an interesting point, saying that Andrews is known for conservative treatment. That could be a sign it’s not a devastating injury.
Regardless, do not expect Joba to pitch any time soon. If there was something on the MRI worth sending him for a second opinion, they’re not just going to cross their fingers and run him back out there in 10 days.
UPDATE, 6:54 p.m.: You can expect Ian Kennedy to start one of the games in Anaheim, either Friday or Saturday. If Giese is not used in relief the next few days, he’ll get the other one.
UPDATE, 9:25 p.m.: Fine effort by the Yankees, who are being made to look silly by a rookie with a 7.40 ERA.
UPDATE, 9:55 p.m.: Two stinkers in a row for Andy Pettitte. 10.1 innings, 17 hits and 14 runs (so far).
UPDATE, 10:26 p.m.: I’m not following this. Pudge is the pinch runner and Melky is the pinch hitter?
Melky is hitting .250 against RHPs. Pudge is hitting .293. Also, he’s Pudge Rodriguez and hammered the ball in this park for 11 years.
UPDATE, 10:28 p.m.: And Melky pops to short.
UPDATE, 11:03 p.m.: I guess we know why they were reticent to bring Bruney up. Man, this is an ugly game. Remember when the Yankees used to smack Texas around? Not any more. They’ll be 1-4 this season with two games to go. That’s a travesty given the Texas pitching staff.
UPDATE, 11:08 p.m.: But wait, C.J. Wilson somehow manages to walk two guys, hit A-Rod and Richie Sexson slams one.
8-6 Rangers. The Yankees are breathing again.
The double and HR were the first extra-base hits for Sexson as a Yankee.
UPDATE, 11:27 p.m.: So the Yankees think the Rangers purposely hit A-Rod to lead off the second inning and again hit him again on purpose with first base occupied in the eighth inning?
UPDATE, 11:29 p.m.: One way or another, it comes down to Alex. Always does.
big g 3/4 and then sits…..I dont get it either
Big sexy in the lineup….oy vey
HALLELUJAH 3 4 and 5 FIXED !!!!
GIDP tandem still together
X is awesome.
About time they gave Sexson a shot at 2nd.
Sexson is at 2nd, hahahahahahahah!
so i take it pettite is the 1B and P tonight?
And Melky sits again.
Like seeing Christian in there.
Let Melky think about things for another game.
My guess is we’ll get some vague non-news shortly before game time about how Joba has been diagnosed with some injury, but they need to do further tests to be sure there aren’t any other problems and won’t know how long he’ll be out until the weekend, or something along those lines.
I assume Sexson is actually at 1B?
Cano can make it over to 1st faster than Sexson, if there is going be a play….keep Robbie and Richie and 2nd together….it sounds like a cartoon !
Dear God,
LEAVE ANDY ALONE
“HALLELUJAH 3 4 and 5 FIXED !!!!”
Might only be for tonite. Witohut Giambi, he has no other viable (and I use that word loosely) #5 hitter. Giambi will be back tomorrow and that’s when we’ll know for sure. I’d guess Nady is back at #6 as Joe G won’t want some tough lefty being brought in to face Giambi and Cano back to back in a big spot.
I am expecting to hear Joba has muscle tear in shoulder out 4-6 weeks and for this team that is effectively the rest of the season. I wouldn’t rush him or Hughes this season is a wash get CC plug him in start next year with a CC, Wang, Joba, Hughes,Andy/Moose rotation.
Dang Pete, I’ve been tense about Joba all day, and you gotta drop the whole “The Yankees tend to break bad news in small doses” thing on us. Arghh!
Welcome to the doghouse Melky Cabrera
You know what, I whine all the time about Girardi playing Wilson Betemit, but if Girardi is determined to maximize his left-handers in the lineup– although Giambi’s splits against right-handed and left-handed pitcher differ not at all– I’d almost prefer him to Sexon.
From what I’ve seen of Sexon lately, you’re lucky if you get a single from him against a lefty. Expecting more than a base-hit every 5 ABs is like expecting a forthcoming answer from Cashman about Joba’s injury.
Front 6 looks good but bottom 3 I see K,K and ground out.
Last chance for Sexton tonight.
I expect to see Duncan up shortly if he fails again tonight. His AB vs. Guardardo was pathetic. He cant even hit a lefty throwing 86.
Is Mariano available??
Awesome. Giambi goes 3 for 4 yesterday and he sits today. Hopefully he can cool down again and go 0 for 4 in tomorrows game!
I don’t give a damn what anybody saids watch this offense punch someone tonight. Nady protecting Alex gets him more pitches and we take away a bat that is .198 w/ RISP and damaging Alex’s approach on top of that. Watch tonight the difference. QUOTE ME !
I expect to see Duncan up shortly if he fails again tonight.
Shelley? If so..he’s..injured..
finally X protecting alex
Richie Sexson is a joke.
Duncan is trying to come back from a pretty severe shoulder injury. Plus he stunk while he was here. Sexton is here, don’t think that a career minor leauger will replace him.
now the Giambi peanut gallery is at it.. they thought he was done this time yesterday. he gets 3 hits in 101 degrees and Girardi is a moron for giving him a day of rest against a lefty.
SHUT UP clowns……..
SHUT up E Man and other fools.. It is 101, Giambi sweats in the shower, is injury prone, and they want to give the LF’s 1/2 day off over the last 2 days.. SHut up with complaining about every DAMN LINEUP….
Sexson remains at 2nd base until everyone here spells his name right.
“Nady protecting Alex gets him more pitches”
Nady doesn’t protect Alex. That would imply that Nady somehow inspires fear in the eyes of a pitcher. He doesn’t. Alex will see the same stuff he’s been seeing because people will always be careful of him with an inferior bat behind him. Abreu gets protection from Arod. Ortiz used to get protection from Ramirez. Nady is not a protection bat.
“SHUT up E Man and other fools.. It is 101, Giambi sweats in the shower, is injury prone, and they want to give the LF’s 1/2 day off over the last 2 days.. SHut up with complaining about every DAMN LINEUP….”
LOL. The pot calling the kettle black!
Is this the last game Sexon will play prior to being put on waivers??? Giambino has a great game yesterday and they rest him??!?!?!?
Also, any thoughts on Joba not vibing well with Pudge? I mean, Pudge almost took his head off throwing to 2nd!
Bad day in the quarry huh Stuart?
Mo is expected to be available tonight.
E man I never complain about the lineups like fools like you………..
you have no CLUE…NONE….
They are playing in 100 plus degree heat. Joe already stated that he is going to use the dh spot to rotate guys out of the heat, hense Nady dh’ing and Sexton starting! Do you want the Big G to play another game in 100 plus heat cramp up and be lost for a few games?
yeah rhapsody my internet connection in the quarry is really slow….
Hey Fredo and what Alex does strike fear in a pitcher?
He is the only great HR hitter who is always 0-2 and doesnt get walked…. Am I wrong here?
“Also, any thoughts on Joba not vibing well with Pudge? I mean, Pudge almost took his head off throwing to 2nd!”
That stuff happens. What was more disconcertng, so far as Joba and Pudge working together, was how frequently Joba was shaking Pudge off. They did not seem to connect in terms of pitch selection.
“After today’s game, only 49 games will be left. That’s 30 percent of the season.”
It’s still early.
“Last chance for Sexton tonight.
I expect to see Duncan up shortly if he fails again tonight. His AB vs. Guardardo was pathetic. He cant even hit a lefty throwing 86.”
I disagree. He’s been terrible offensively, but he’s still a superior defensive option in the late innings to our lovely collection of butchers.
Tino was looking in shape on Saturday. Maybe it’s time for a two-month comeback….
Thank you Rebecca.
“Mo is expected to be available tonight.”
jennifer no logic let the complainers do there thing and omplain about anything and everything…
giambi sweats in the shower and is not exacly a sturdy soul…
Haha great post by stuart, the lineup-whining gets really tiresome but it’s always good for a few laughs. There are more important things to be worrying about with the team right now than who hits where.
“Hey Fredo and what Alex does strike fear in a pitcher?”
I guess you’re right. Pitchers are always so anxious to face .300 hitters with 45 homer power.
Stick to soccer linguine-breath.
the call on the Kinsler play lost them the game.. I still have not seen the supposed foul ball hit Kinsler…
“About time they gave Sexson a shot at 2nd.”
LOL
anybody know where to find a page on the web that the game last night was entered into a scorebook? I was wondering exactly what Christian did when he went 0 for 3
Nady doesn’t protect Alex. That would imply that Nady somehow inspires fear in the eyes of a pitcher. He doesn’t. Alex will see the same stuff he’s been seeing because people will always be careful of him with an inferior bat behind him.
Trust me word is getting out on Nady right now .334 w/RISP gets around just like Abreu’s .360 + AVG w/ RISP gets around. You will see a different offense tonight. Bank on it.
“E man I never complain about the lineups like fools like you………..”
You complain about everything Little. You’re complaining about me right now.
Shelley is back playing at Scranton.Sexson has looked overmatched in game situations.If he’s not hitting lefties he should not be here.
I dont think anyone here will say that Arod strikes fear in pitchers the way that Manny Rameriz does or the way Albert does or the way Barry Bonds did?
I happen to like Arod, but he isnt a hitter who you get scared of in a big situation….
Also, any thoughts on Joba not vibing well with Pudge? I mean, Pudge almost took his head off throwing to 2nd!
And that’s on Joba’s inexperience, he should know live play runner at 1st get out of the catcher’s path.
Last night’s game really left a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. Not only the whole Joba thing but the way we lost the game knowing we would have made up a game on the Sox and Rays.
This season has really been like that rollercoaster ride you knew you shouldn’t have gone on right after you ate a cheeseburger with greasy fries all while pounding 4 beers…
And like that ride, if you make it through the ups and downs and upside-downs, it would have been well worth it.
maybe THAT’s the reason Joba is hurt…..from dodging that throw..
“What was more disconcertng, so far as Joba and Pudge working together, was how frequently Joba was shaking Pudge off. They did not seem to connect in terms of pitch selection.”
I noticed the same Fredo, just my opinion but I wondered why Joba didn’t give Pudge the pitch he was looking for, maybe I give Pudge more credit then he is due, but I believe there isn’t a better catcher for a young pitcher.
E-Man, you are way off, stuart is one of the first people on these threads ripping the people who (usually idiotically) nitpick every single lineup.
“What, Melky hitting 9th? Why not move him up to 2nd to get his bat heated up?!?!?!”
“Betemit! WE ARE GOING TO LOSE BY 10 RUNS BECAUSE BETEMIT IS IN THIS GAME”
And so on and so forth, it’s always really ridiculous.
Pete has both Cano and Sexson playing 2B on the lineups.
Why are people complaining about Sexon being in the lineup?
Isin’t this why we got him? If he isin’t in the lineup against a rookie lefty, when when is he ever going to play?
Giambi has one good game and now his entire 1 month of suckage is erased?
1. it’s asinine to complain about the lineup every single day. they’re up against a lefty and, last night notwithstanding, giambi’s been ice cold. it’s 100+ degrees out and the guy’s huge and prone to injury. why not give him a night off? (and there’s no “T” in sexon, by the way.)
2. joba shook jorge off plenty of times. molina, too. it’s one of the few problems with the kid. he seems to think he knows better than his catcher and, as SJ documented, he’s paid for it a couple of times.
3. in terms of the yankees “breaking bad news in small doses,” i don’t think it’ll be great news or awful news. most likely they’ll say he strained or pulled a muscle and then offer an optimistic timetable for his return, which we’ll all know by now will equate to about 1/3 of the time he’ll actually miss. at this point, it’s not going to be great news. the kid’s hurt, it’s just a matter of how severely. hopefully it’s not bad and we’ll see him again this year. if we don’t read the words “labrum” or “rotator cuff,” it’s good news in the big picture.
Its becoming very clear that this team is not going to make the post season.
Im going to start hoping for the best but expecting the worst.
“He is the only great HR hitter who is always 0-2 and doesnt get walked…. Am I wrong here?”
Yes, you’re wrong. His OBP is 80 points higher than his BA so he must be getting his walks.
Hi Kasey…long time no blog
Girardi is a CLOWN anyway. Good players / Bad manager.
“Trust me word is getting out on Nady right now .334 w/RISP gets around just like Abreu’s .360 + AVG w/ RISP gets around. You will see a different offense tonight. Bank on it.”
That’s two different things. The offense will be a little different, but Nady still offers Arod no protection. Pitchers will pitch Arod the same way they always do. Somewhat carefully.
Andrew, all you have to do is CTRL-F his name in past game posts and see him whining about Giambi being in the line up.
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is shelley expected to return anytime this yr? how much longer of this richie sexson experiment the guy is an absolute joke.
Nady doesn’t offer protection to A-Rod.
What he does offer is a bat that can hit with RISP.
Next year Arod’s protection will be Miranda and 37 yr old Posada.
Not getting Tex and getting rid of Abreu, our lineup will now be closer to the SF Giants than the Sox. Arod will never get a thing to hit.
“Andrew, all you have to do is CTRL-F his name in past game posts and see him whining about Giambi being in the line up.”
I don’t know, that sounds kind of obsessive/creepy. Plus, Giambi is just one guy. Most of these people spread their love around to whoever went 0-for-4 or whoever particularly annoys their eyes by seeing them in the lineup, with all kinds of bluster and bold statements and so on (last time this guy starts! get this guy off the team!). Today it’s Richie Sexson. Tomorrow it will probably be someone else.
“Stick to soccer linguine-breath.”
A-Rod walks plenty and of course pitchers don’t want to face him. But, what does linguine smell like? Kinda depends on the sauce, doesn’t it?
is nady our mike lowell?
E man continue with your BS and lies.. seriously are you a friggin moron…
yeah I am giving Girardi advice on where to bat Melky.. SUre, again isn’t it time for your nap or cartoons????
“Giambi sweats in the shower”
this line made me laugh a lot more than i should have….
“it’s asinine to complain about the lineup every single day. they’re up against a lefty and, last night notwithstanding, giambi’s been ice cold. it’s 100+ degrees out and the guy’s huge and prone to injury. why not give him a night off? ”
Fine, give him a night off but when he comes back don’t stick him in the #5 hole. That’s my main argument. Put him in the #3 hole.. He’s still getting his walks, it might jumpstart him a little. You can stick Abreu in the #5 spot and keep this line up deep.
That’s two different things. The offense will be a little different, but Nady still offers Arod no protection. Pitchers will pitch Arod the same way they always do. Somewhat carefully.
Nope not really because the pitcher will have in the back of his mind that the next guy can hurt him. See there is a difference between .198 and .334 w/ RISP…if you read Alex’s stats his OBP % in these situations is higher because the SP doesn’t pitch to him therefore he has to take a walk. They rather risk going at Giambi hence Alex doesn’t get protection, tonight when they risk walking him or if Alex hits a single or double the next guy can actually drive him home. And what results here is the SP will challenge him in his next AB instead of pitching around him.
You’ll see. Until later guys I gotta go, Harrison is toast tonight.
Mark if so Nady is a damn good player, let’s hope so….
Wagner to the DL!!!!!!!!!!!!
“is nady our mike lowell?”
Only if Mike Lowell all of a sudden became handsome.
I think Nady’s better than Lowell. Lowell is a doubles machine because he’s got that green monster to hit up against. I don’t think his numbers are as good away from Fenway.
Nady seems to have power to all fields. I like that. Oh yeah, and he’s hot too.
Do u think Sox will try to go after CC just to try to drive-up the price? Remember with Manny’s contract out the Sox have money to spend this off-season…I heard somewhere they have upto 50 Mil to spend this off-season.
I think the CC will be at an advantage with all the bidding that will go on. The bidding starts at 6 years 20 Mil = 120 Mil. That is just the starting bid. My guess is 7/8 Years 160 Mil. What do u guys think?
andrew maybe you can play stratematic in your mommies basement with E man??? You guys both are full of you know what and lie like a rug…….
as far as Giambi batting 3rd and moving Abreu to 5th. I see nothing a matter with that . That is a reasonable suggestion, would it make a difference? I have no idea, Giambi does get on base and Abreu is better with RISP then GIambi by a ton so far this year.
Wagner to the DL does not affect the Yankees in any way, shape or form.
“I think the CC will be at an advantage with all the bidding that will go on. The bidding starts at 6 years 20 Mil = 120 Mil. That is just the starting bid. My guess is 7/8 Years 160 Mil. What do u guys think?”
I think that we have enough to worry about this year w/o having to worry about who will be on the team next year.
“Wagner to the DL does not affect the Yankees in any way, shape or form.”
No, but it most certainly brings a smile to my face.
:p
Actually Stuart, Andrew was defending you.
You sure are smart.
Pete, do you live in an alternate universe where Jason Giambi is nicknamed the “Iron Horse”?
I like Nady hitting behind A-Rod. Better than Giambi.
“No, but it most certainly brings a smile to my face.”
That’s terrible.
I apologize to Andrew..
E man you still are a fool..
giambi as a platoon player boggles my mind. richie sexson stopped being a major leaguer 3 years ago
Giambi sitting, Sexson playing. Another brilliant move, Joe G.
Mike and the maddog lileing on Marte today.. The guy did walk to many of course but 46 pitches or so.. GIrardi let him out there to fail because of limited options in the pen. .WHy was Veras not available yesterday, anyone know?
pileing on.. oops….
The longer we wait, the worse the news has to be.
I still can’t reconcile myself to not playing in October though. The thought pains me too much.
Perhaps, they can hold out for four turns through the rotation until Hughes returns and they acquire a decent 4th starter from outside the organization, if the offense explodes and the bullpen, last night excepted, continues to dominate.
“Wagner to the DL does not affect the Yankees in any way, shape or form.”
Says the poster who constantly tells us about Syracuse weather, her schoolwork, her grad school optionss, etc.
Pedro part of the lineup CREW, nice… How about a Molina vs I ROD whine? How about CHristian vs Melky.. I think CHristian had an ofer yesterday??
WHINE WHINE WHINE….
“I apologize to Andrew..
E man you still are a fool..”
And you are clearly a genious.
yeah E man I have read your posts full of incredible wisdom and insight…
NOT REALLY..LEt’s just agree to dislike each other and leave it at that…
It’s honestly better that Joba doesn’t have forearm stiffness and soreness, to somehow make the Wagner discussion relevant. His (Joba’s) injury sounds like it is just the rest and rehabilitation-needed type, but Wagner’s symptoms are usually the Dr. James Andrews visit and operation precursors.
Also, stuart I was never into strat-o-matic, I guess I was the videogame generation so I went with Bases Loaded for NES.
“No, but it most certainly brings a smile to my face.â€
“That’s terrible.”
Really? You think Met fans were crying when they heard that Joba went down? Do you think that Tito had to be consoled after he heard the news? Come on. These are heated and often hatred filled rivalries. I hate the Mets and I hope they lose every game left in the season. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I can live with that.
Damn Stuart!! Why all the anger? Im in Socal as well and all the traffic in the world cant get me bent as much as you are. Im not sure what all the anger is about. Your not going to change people from complaining about the lineup. Everyone has their favorits and least favorites. I for one wouldnt mind Giambi sitting awhile if he’s not going to hit for us. We might as well have Sexson there if all we’re getting is defense. But i can see how people can be upset of him being benched after MAYBE breaking out of another slump. What im really wondering is if there is something going on with Melky. I would have thought he would be back in there today.
Relax man. Its only baseball.
I like the earlier comment calling for realistic expectations. Playoffs this season are a longshot, especially with the condition of the pitching staff. Anyone who truly expects the Yanks to get there this year may be in for disappointment. Hopefully, though, they’ll continue to stay in the race and make September interesting.
billy on the dl
The fact that we’re in contention despite the injuries to our starting pitchers as well as the injury to a catcher that hit .336 last year is itself remarkable.
“If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I can live with that.”
It doesn’t make you a bad person, it just makes you an idiot. It’s one thing hoping teams lose players, but it’s another hoping they get hurt… And Ortiz is different, his injuries are very possibly the result of taking steroids which caused breakdown, so that would serve him right.
But for Billy Wagner, it could be career ending… You like that to happen to people? I love seeing him get beaten on the field and abused, but I wouldn’t want him to get seriously injured.
Yanks need to get 3/4 especially after yesterdays debacle.
“Nady seems to have power to all fields. I like that. Oh yeah, and he’s hot too.”
This is why women should be banned from this blog.
“The fact that we’re in contention despite the injuries to our starting pitchers as well as the injury to a catcher that hit .336 last year is itself remarkable.”
True, but I have to wonder are we closing in on a time when our luck will run out…..
“The fact that we’re in contention despite the injuries to our starting pitchers as well as the injury to a catcher that hit .336 last year is itself remarkable.”
The Joba injury is fresh wait until next week. This team can’t survive on Andy, Moose, Razzy, Giese and Ponson.
I’m also curious as to why so many folks are crucifying Giradi over last night’s 9th inning. Rivera and Veras were unavailable. Bruney had pitched a lot over the weekend. If the game had dragged on, how many innings could Robertson have gone in that heat? Somehow, I think Joe knows the state and condition of his bullpen better than we do.
“This is why women should be banned from this blog.”
Really? How about all of the guy bloggers who go on and on about how hot Erin Andrews is? Should they be banned as well?
ZMAN777,
We will find away!! I cant immagine in my worst nightmare not making the playoffs. If Hughes, Aceves and I hate say the hated one contribute. We can get to the playoffs with mediocre pitching and the offense turning it up a notch.
Signed
Spoiled Yankee Fan
And comments about Erin Andrew, Kim Jones and that other woman should just be let slide?
Grow a pair and live with it.
“Nady seems to have power to all fields. I like that. Oh yeah, and he’s hot too.â€
This is why women should be banned from this blog.
Agreed.
SoS — it’s one thing to hope, another to expect. Oh, and Pavano will not pitch a meaningful inning in pinstripes ever again, in my opinion. He’ll find a reason to need more time in the minors.
“But for Billy Wagner, it could be career ending… You like that to happen to people? I love seeing him get beaten on the field and abused, but I wouldn’t want him to get seriously injured.”
Who said that Wagner had a career ending injury? I just read the post on MLB.com and I didn’t see that at all. In fact, here is what Minaya said: “Minaya said the MRI results came as good news because the injury was not more serious, and he said he is hopeful that Wagner’s stint on the DL will only last 15 days.”
And you take that to mean he’s done pitching for the rest of his life? Who’s the idiot now?
E-Man,
Please don’t listen to stuart. He is one of the King Morons here.
There are a ton of broads posting or it seems like there are. maybe that is why the level of discourse is pretty low.
Who makes less contact?
Sexson or Betemit?
Erin Andrews is hot. Anyone that says the same about Kim Jones should be shot.
That said, the ladies can say what they want. I haven’t seen any of them on here posting that don’t also know baseball. In fact, some/most know more than half of the guys that post.
“This is why women should be banned from this blog.
Agreed.”
The only men who want women banned from the blog are the ones who can’t handle listening to their opinions: baseball or otherwise. It’s not like my comment said nothing about Nady’s baseball skills. My comment about his hotness was thrown in for fun.
I love the double standard around here.
So it looks like Laura and I are going to have to spend tonight defending the ability of women to post on this blog?
Lovely.
“And you take that to mean he’s done pitching for the rest of his life? Who’s the idiot now?”
Try to know the situation a little beyond the words in an article. Wagner wasn’t even going to pitch next year if he wasn’t contracted to, but he wants to honor his contract. So being that he didn’t even want to pitch next year, he might very well not because of this injury. That’s called career ending, in case you don’t know that.
I’m just glad this signals the end of the Melky Era.
Defensive replacement is a fine job for him.
Speaking of Andrews, Dan Patrick was asking the media critic from the NY Times about her and how she dresses and interacts with the players. He’s not comfortable with the whole thing. Says you should just dress professionally and not use your “assets”.
Apparently there was a flap in Chicago that we missed? Low cut blouse, a lotta leg showing, and her hand on some subject’s leg?
“How about all of the guy bloggers who go on and on about how hot Erin Andrews is? Should they be banned as well?”
No – guys should be able to discuss hot women on this blog.
But of course – women, on this blog, should feel free to discuss hot women – in fact I encourage it.
Please don’t compare Erin Andrews to Kim Jones. You are embarrassing yourselves.
Does it really matter “who’s hot”, or for that matter, who isn’t? I think it’s a safe bet that no one on this blog will be shagging either Xavier Nady or Erin Andrews anytime soon.
I’m way hotter than all of you, combined…
“But of course – women, on this blog, should feel free to discuss hot women – in fact I encourage it.”
Sorry ladies, but that was funny….
“Trust me word is getting out on Nady right now .334 w/RISP gets around just like Abreu’s .360 + AVG w/ RISP gets around. You will see a different offense tonight. Bank on it”
arod could have david ortiz protecting him,and it wouldn’t matter.
Women are petty and catty and fight and they seem to get personal on attacks and other stuff. We all know them. We went to school with them. We’ve married them. They don’t know sports.
wow. and i thought greenberet and i lowered the level of discourse last night. this might be an all-time low for lohud.
hopefully we get some news about joba soon.
I can’t recall one time that someone here mentioned Erin Andrews.
But the “ladies” seem to mention hotness daily. This isn’t the knitting gossip club.
So…. what you’re saying is, Dan Patrick’s gay… never knew that.
Hey, I comment about Kim Jones’ assets all the time on this blog, as do many of the other guys. Ditto Erin Andrews.
I don’t see why the women on this blog can’t do likewise about the players.
Women discussing hot women before they cat fight.
Nice.
Put me in coach!
“Hey, I comment about Kim Jones’ assets all the time on this blog, as do many of the other guys. Ditto Erin Andrews.”
Because you’re a sexist pig means it should be ok for everyone??
Sound logic.
Wow. I went away for an hour and this place got…..wow. You’d think it was the fifth inning of any game in which we weren’t up 12-0…
Why didn’t Joba just go to my doctor? He would have been out by now…
Giambi is sitting for a AAA pitcher?! He finally hit yesterday and the ball flys out of that ball park..Let the guy play. It is an accomplishment for Sexson if he makes contact…
Does this erudite board hold a position on hermaphrodites? LOL
What? Nady’s not hot? Hitting .400 with 4 HR since joining the Yankees is not hot?
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything good from a female about anything sports related except for foxy boxing.
my grandmother still has a crush on tino after watching old timers day… yesterday, i got to listen to her rant about how ‘beautiful’ he looked…
I’m sorry if this has already been discussed, but can someone enlighten me as to what IPK did to alienate Cashman and Girardi during his time with the big club? Does he not take instruction well? Did he piss off his teammates? Does anyone actually know? I am not really pumped about seeing him pitching for the Yankees again anytime soon, but that’s just because my personal preference is to have guys who throw harder rather than nibble. It just seems like Cash and Girardi’s comments on IPK indicate that the problems run deeper than his on the field performance. Thanks in advance.
Weren’t there some women on the blog a few weeks ago complaining about guys that were “complimenting” Erin Andrews?
Giambi is sitting for a AAA pitcher?! He finally hit yesterday and the ball flys out of that ball park..Let the guy play. It is an accomplishment for Sexson if he makes contact…
Why? There’s a lefty on the mound! Who may last 5 innings! Girardi is a regular Miller Huggins.
Girls can post whatever they want here. Doesn’t mean they have to be listened to or responded to or taken seriously.
Sexson is a tool, but if you don’t play him against the occasional lefty, when do you? And, if the answer is never, then bring up Gardner.
Chris NY,
Actually, DP asked the question and the NYT guy answered it. Sorry shoulda been clearer. But the antecedent (?) was the guy from the Times.
“Does it really matter “who’s hotâ€, or for that matter, who isn’t? I think it’s a safe bet that no one on this blog will be shagging either Xavier Nady or Erin Andrews anytime soon.”
Nope, but theres no reason why it can’t be discussed on here either.
“… can someone enlighten me as to what IPK did to alienate Cashman and Girardi during his time with the big club?”
Maybe Cash/Joe want him to really earn his way back – get some fire in the belly.
That – and not winning a single game this season.
Giambi will be pinhc hitting for Christian in the 6th inning.
How enlightened of you, Gordo.
Wow all this and the game hasnt even started yet. I just want to know if we can still say “Damon throws like a girl”. Or is that a compliment these days?
I do agree that some of the women here know more about the game than half the guys here. Not more than me off coarse.
“But of course – women, on this blog, should feel free to discuss hot women – in fact I encourage it.”
Maybe Kim Jones and Aaron Andrews can. Pay per view.
saucY,
Is she too blind to see Tino’s fabulous gut?
I kinda like it when the ladies post their thoughts and opinions. Like they know anything. Keep ‘em comin’ Becca and Angel and mel and trisha and whoever else. It’s cute.
You can discuss whatever you like. It just seems that this topic sets some people off. Personally, I do think Erin Andrews is attractive, but sadly her looks are probably the biggest reason for her career rise.
“How enlightened of you, Gordo.”
It’s sports, babe. It isn’t politically correct and it shouldn’t be. Deal with it. There’s no crying in baseball, babe.
There is a special place in my heart for female sports fans, and I welcome them in spades on here. I love intelligent female sports fans, as they often bring the facts and reality without the hyperbole of the guys.
It’s not my fault half this blog probably cowers into the fetal position at the sight of a girl.
I’m kidding. I’m sure a few of you do get the babes.
MY comment didn’t attempt to justify being a “sexist pig,” Jersey. (But neither do I deny it either.)
Rather, I was commenting on this blog’s protocol. Namely, that I can hardly decry this blog’s female contributors for confessing their attraction to this player or that player, because I do likewise. Condemning them would amount to hypocrisy on my part or on the part of anyone else who has made similar comments about Kim Jones.
I leave it to sanctimonious people like you, Jersey, to play the role of prig and appoint yourself the blog’s moral arbiter.
Lol, I was only kidding anyway mel.
“(and there’s no “T†in sexon, by the way.)”
Yes, kasey – but there are 2 ‘s’s – bitter people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
Winslow’s hot!
“I do agree that some of the women here know more about the game than half the guys here. Not more than me off coarse.”
Luckily the ladies know more grammar than you. “off coarse” LOL.
lol mel. if i pointed that out, i probably wouldn’t have gone home with a bag of (delicious) meatballs…
Christ half of you lot need to get out of mommy’s basement.
Breaking news on NY Post website says that Joba’s been sent to see a shoulder specialist.
So as long as Killing Schilling does it or says it, it is A-OK. Keep that in mind people. Always think what would Kill Schilling do???
And he is a sexist who oogles working women. So that’s good to go.
“Breaking news on NY Post website says that Joba’s been sent to see a shoulder specialist.”
He’s not pitching again in 2008. We should accept it now and move on.
Joba or Kennedy/Igawa/Pavano.
Damn you, Baseball Gods. Damn you.
Laura – yes, you are a bad person. That’s not the type of karma you want to throw around while we’re waiting on Joba’s injury report.
Joba was fun while he lasted. We’ll see him opening day 2009. Hopefully healthy.
btw, i appreciate the women here pointing out which players are hot.
how the hell else am i going to decide on my next haircut???
Wow, calm down. Wouldn’t it make sense to see a shoulder specialist for an injured shoulder? That tells us NOTHING.
That’s bad. No way to get around that.
There is nothing on the Post site. Liar.
Yeah, because you contribute so much around here.
saucY,
The fade is out and the X is in.
Wouldn’t you want to send your top, young starter to a specialist? Or, should he just visit his internist for an opinion?
I’m sure they will send his results to 3 shoulder specialists.
Why wouldn’t they????
I won’t believe anything unless I hear it from Peter or someone who actually has some credibility around here.
“There is nothing on the Post site. Liar.”
There is, and we’re sending you to see a proctologist.
I don’t draw moral conclusions, or cast moral judgments, about others, Jersey, whether to exonerate them or to condemn them.
I leave that to pious and self-appointed moral arbiters like you, Jersey.
Maybe he first received an MRI then was sent to the specialist because of the results of the MRI.
Just because you are here daily and sitting on a computer every single game and throwing 2 cents around on whatever topic you think you know, doesn’t mean you are contributing, Angel babe.
I think a collective verse of Kumbayah is needed right now. “Someone’s angry Lord . . .”
What would be bad is if they sent him to a neuro-surgeon. Did anyone expect them not to have Joba poked and prodded by every shoulder expert not at the Olympics?
Focus on your breathing and relax.
What injured pitcher doesn’t say Dr. Andrews?
guys, it really is on the Post site.
not much you can say about that. you’ve got a shoulder problem, you go see a shoulder specialist. we know no more or less than we did before.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08.....123144.htm
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08.....123144.htm
JOBA ON WAY TO SEE DR. ANDREWS
INJURED SHOULDER NEEDS SECOND LOOK
PS
August 5th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
There is nothing on the Post site. Liar.
Actually there is. But its basically the usual speculation, and stuff thats hardly surprising or worthy of a breaking news banner.
Rasner can replace Joba for a few starts. Kennedy after that when he is ready. The team isn’t done for without one player.
Perhaps it’s Dr. Erin Andrews?
and, by “guys,” i mean everyone. my being married to someone with a certificate in Women’s Studies does not preclude me from some unfortunate minor misogynistic tendencies. my apologies.
from the Post:
read the article on the post, it is there. Home page “breaking news.”
But why would you assume this isn’t standard procedure? The guy left the game with shoulder stiffness, so he’s going to see a specialist to see what exactly is wrong. MRI machine’s don’t talk. Gotta see the doctor.
John Gotti Jr was in the mob????
How is it breaking news that Joba is seeing Andrews? I thought that was assumed?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08.....123144.htm
the happiest guy today is ponson… now theres no way hes losing his job, considering they are 3 spots up for grabs now, and with hughes 3 weeks away and with the orginization ticked off at kennedy, ponson is probably breathing a sigh of relief— same with rasner, hes the hybrid starter/reliever now.
Jorge Steinbrenner
August 5th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
“guys, it really is on the Post site.
not much you can say about that. you’ve got a shoulder problem, you go see a shoulder specialist. we know no more or less than we did before.”
Exactly. Its news thats hardly worthy of a breaking news banner, though.
Maybe a Stating the Bloody Obvious banner?
“Perhaps it’s Dr. Erin Andrews?”
She’s hot!
mel, i’ll need a few weeks to grow it now
ladies, no need to go out for at lease a couple weeks !
if there’s no loss of strength, and it hurts, it has to be muscular. that just makes common sense to me….but who knows.
As Joba said “Life is too short to worry…”
Dr Erin Andrews. So hot. I wish she were in texas doing the game. YES should hire her.
“I do agree that some of the women here know more about the game than half the guys here. Not more than me off coarse.â€
“Luckily the ladies know more grammar than you. “off coarse†LOL.’
But Boxy. Thats how i spelled it. I triple checked it. And yes, mel and others do correct me often. Actually recently they have just accepted it.
Gordo is there a reason why you are a condescending dbag?
thanks mark for ruining my night with those facts.
Eh, don’t worry Jorge. Calling everyone “guys” isn’t a sexist act in my mind, i’m guilty of it too, lol.
Its tame, compared to some of the stupid posts here at the moment, thats for sure.
I respect everyone’s opinion, of course….however, I don’t see why one would be happy to see another team’s player injured.
I’ve always been of the mindset that I would much rather have a Red Sox player/prospect fizzle out as a prospect rather than hurt themselves and not live up to their full potential.
In other words, I’d love it much more if Buchholz never makes it as a big-league pitcher just based on his own ability than have him not make it based on a stupid injury that derailed his career.
As for Wagner, I just don’t really care – Mets mean little to me. I’ve always said that as long as the Mets don’t win four World Series games, I don’t care what else they do. It has little effect on the Yankees, afterall.
Have any of you even read the article? The article actually sounds optimistic. Jesus christ.
Okay, she’s attractive and all, but Erin Andrews is not quite deserving of all this attention, is she?
“the happiest guy today is ponson”
They’ve put Rolling Rock in the water coolers?!
Yeah, I’m not too into Erin Andrews either. Don’t really get it.
The last time Joba saw Andrews, she rolled her eyes with the camera rolling.
I have no clue what the visit to Dr. Andrews says or doesn’t say. All I know is that the “everyone sees Dr. Andrews” POV is absolutely true, considering they even used to claim it when someone was injured in pro wrestling back when they still tried to hide it was fake.
“Road Warrior Animal’s going to have to see Dr. James Andrews about that elbow….”
“and with hughes 3 weeks away ”
Hughes is on an 80 pitch pitch-count his next start at SWB.
He could come up the following start (or actually they brought up Joba earlier than that).
“Eh, don’t worry Jorge. Calling everyone “guys†isn’t a sexist act in my mind, i’m guilty of it too, lol.
Its tame, compared to some of the stupid posts here at the moment, thats for sure.”
I manage an all-female staff. I still say “guys” half the time and call them “dude” way too much.
Like I said, I married a smart cookie with a nose ring. I know better.
Patrick â„¢
August 5th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
“Gordo is there a reason why you are a condescending dbag?”
Yes.
Because he’s also a simpering sycophant, Patrick. See?
Gordo
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Trisha. Do not listen to the negative defeatists like SJ44. This game proves that.
Dan Graziano: Loss of Joba Chamberlain wouldn’t doom Yankees’ playoff chances
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledge.....would.html
“Think of it this way. Even if he’s fully healthy and returns in five days, Chamberlain’s only going to make what? 10 more starts for the Yankees this year? They’re 8-4 in the 12 starts he’s made so far, so let’s say for the sake of argument that they’d go 7-3 in the remaining 10 if he made them. Given their schedule, that’s probably pretty generous, but let’s just go there for the sake of argument.
So if he’s out for the year, who replaces him? Darrell Rasner? Ian Kennedy? Phil Hughes? Carl Pavano? If it’s any one or any combination of those guys, what’s the worst you can expect the Yankees to do in the 10 starts they spend filling in for Joba? I’m going to say 5-5, worst. The Yankees are an above-.500 team with a strong offense and a strong bullpen. They’d find a way to patch it together.
So given those figures, the loss of Chamberlain for the remainder of the regular season would make the Yankees two games worse the rest of the way than they’d be with him making his regular turn. And that’s assuming the best for Chamberlain and the worst for his replacements.”
For all the Andrews-obsessed. Maybe this will close the book on the good Doctor. Wow, a member of the Dazzlers! LOL
Erin Andrews (born May 4, 1978 in Lewiston, Maine) is a television sports reporter.
Andrews joined ESPN in May 2004 as a reporter for the network’s National Hockey League coverage.[1] Since the 2004 season, Andrews has served as sideline reporter for the ESPN College Football Saturday telecast, the Saturday Primetime college basketball game and Big Ten college basketball coverage.[1] In 2005, she added Major League Baseball sideline reporting to her duties. She also provides reports and features on Great Outdoor Games coverage. She also covers Men’s college baseball, and is a familiar sight during the College World Series.
In 2007, she was voted “America’s Sexiest Sportscaster” by Playboy Magazine. [2]
Andrews graduated from the University of Florida with a degree in telecommunications in 2000. While there she was a member of the Zeta Tau Alpha sorority.[3] Andrews was also a member of the Dazzlers, the Gator basketball dance team, from 1997–2000.[1]
She began her career with her FSN Florida as a freelance reporter from 2000–01 before serving as a Tampa Bay Lightning reporter for the Sunshine Network from 2001–02.[1] Andrews then worked as a studio host for Turner Sports from 2002–2004, covering the Atlanta Braves and college football for TBS and Atlanta Thrashers and Atlanta Hawks for Turner South.[1]
She is represented by the sports agency Career Sports & Entertainment in Atlanta, GA. [1]
Seriously, if people think the season is over already, why bother watching?
Gordo’s posts are especially amusing considering that this is the first time I’ve posted on here today. I have a job that keeps me fairly busy during business hours and I don’t have time to post during the day.
I say “guys” all the time. It’s a product of being from Jersey, not anything sexist.
Though of course I’m a woman, so I obviously don’t know anything.
This is just weird:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/bl.....=mlb,87572
“Okay, she’s attractive and all, but Erin Andrews is not quite deserving of all this attention, is she?”
Theres not much to compare her to. I think they should go to Nascar(havnt watched one race in my life)and grab some of those women drivers. Like that girl that was getting in a cat fight with the popular race car girl.
Does anybody know if Milton Bradley is in the starting lineup tonight?
This is probably good news regarding Joba.
There was no doubt he was going to see a shoulder specialist and that it was probably going to be James Andrews.
Over the course of his career Joba could be worth $500M to the yankees. They are not going to take any chances with him.
The more encouraging part of this is that the story was actually leaked now.
This story was leaked to the Post by the Yankees. The fact that he’s going for another opinion isn’t really the thing you want to know. What really matters is what the MRI showed. If his rotator cuff and labrum are ok then its fine.
With the way the yankees are on injuries I don’t see them letting this story leak unless they knew the MRI looked OK. If the MRI looked bad and he had to go for an evaluation on surgery I doubt the yankees let this story leak.
Leaking this story is their way of saying that they are going to do this medical evaluation in their own way and that it’s going to take some time. They are going to wait to get multiple medical opinions and then make a decision on what to do with Joba.
Just a guess but the yankees are so good with controlling information leaks like this don’t make it to the press unless the front office wants them to.
Now that I know Erin was a Dazzler in college, my whole outlook has changed!
“Seriously, if people think the season is over already, why bother watching?”
I wonder what the over/under is on what percentage of those posts are pure troll.
For those that aren’t, how exactly did you survive the late 80′s and early 90′s, other than switching to a Mets cap?
Selene Steele = wayyyyy hotter than Erin Andrews
CB: I hope so.
You said yesteday what I think is still the best sign: no loss of strength or velocity. It sounds muscular, and it doesn’t sound like it’s hurting so much that it’s serious.
Dr. Andrews is not the Yankees primary ortho. That means, he’s giving a second opinion on what the MRI found today.
Its probably been requested by Joba’s side (ie: Joba and his agents) to seek his opinion. They have used Dr. Andrews in the past for their clients often.
What we know is the following:
1. Its not a “cramp” as some hoped/believed on this blog this morning.
2. They found something in there. If not, no need for another opinion.
The seriousness of it? Who knows at this point. It is significant enough though to seek a second opinion.
Hopefully, its something that can be rehabbed without surgery.
Contrary to popular belief, Dr. Andrews is known for using surgery as a last, not first, resort.
Hopefully, that’s the case here.
Good point, Jorge. The entire period 1982 – 1994 was no joy ride. Nor were the early 70s.
Okay, as the picky female of the blog I’m going to put an end to this.
Erin Andrews is a very attractive woman. She doesn’t dress inappropriately nor flirt from what I can tell. She tries very hard to be a professional and should be taken seriously.
As long as you’re not a colleague or athlete, feel free to comment as you please. Just remember Pete’s rules. This is a family place.
the deltoid is not the shoulder. IF joba is headed to see dr. andrews, it means the MRI most likely revealed some shoulder damage, which is not good. i can’t remember the last time somebody went to see andrews over a minor deltoid injury.
so, IF that’s true, it belongs in the “not great news” category.
“The entire period 1982 – 1994 was no joy ride”
Or as I like to call it the “Bucky/Stump/Buck” era.
“Though of course I’m a woman, so I obviously don’t know anything.”
Well, you’re in good company, at least. There is a lot of us “don’t know anything” women on this blog.
Chamberlain had an MRI today in New York. The Yankees would not reveal what it showed. However, Joba is being sent to Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., for another examination tomorrow.
Oh good lord…This is very, very bad news.
SJ makes a very good point. Joba is represented by the Hendricks brothers. They’re also agents of Clemens and Pettite.
Andrews scoped Clemens shoulder in 1985 (found nothing) and repaired Pettite’s elbow in 2004.
I’d guess they have a good relationship with him. Joba is now one of their premier clients.
This was never a cramp. The muscles in your arm rarely cramp from the heat – at least not before your legs will as the muscles are so much larger there.
Hopefully this is just precautionary. There was no doubt something was wrong and that Joba was going to get a slew of medical opinions.
The Yankees not revealing what it shows makes me very, very nervous.
Kennedy is not up yet for a reason. He is not there mentally and the team will not throw him into the fire. That is why he was sent down. His injury was his mind. He wasn’t handling his taste of failure well. A lot of rookies go thru it.
They won’t mess with his development because of a need. No matter how well he’s throwing.
“Oh good lord…This is very, very bad news.”
Is it?
Wow, when I don’t know anything, I really don’t know anything. No half-hearted ignorance effort on my part.
CB,
the fact that the yankees aren’t revealing the results of the MRI does not speak to it being clean.
Has there ever been a single lineup in the history of lineups that you people havent bitched and moaned about?
Didnt the Yankees once make the playoffs with Aaron Small and Chacon in the rotation after their young sinker baller pitcher injured his shoulder.
Al from BK, shouldnt you quit watching the team now since you are so sure they aren’t making the playoffs
Guys should be banned for constantly bringing up Erin Andrews. I literally see hundreds of women 10 times hotter than she is on a daily basis just going to and from work everyday in NYC.
Oh good grief, now its impersonating me again. *rolls eyes*
So pathetic.
“The seriousness of it? Who knows at this point. It is significant enough though to seek a second opinion. ”
That’s probably the least educated thing I’ve ever seen you write. You’re ALWAYS supposed to get a second opinion on ANY health matter.
Like someone said before, it doesn’t matter what the MRI showed, you don’t take a chance on a $500 million commodity, you get a second opinion, and you get another opinion after that.
What if they found nothing, he starts playing, and they realize there WAS an injury? That’s why you get second opinions.
The fact that they are getting a second opinion shows absolutely nothing on the severity of the injury or if they even found anything.
Joba going to alabama cant be good news. Obviously something showed up on the MRI. Dr Andrews is Dr Death as far as I’m concerned. I’ve got a bad feeling about this one. IPK on Sat?
“IF joba is headed to see dr. andrews, it means the MRI most likely revealed some shoulder damage, which is not good.”
No that’s not true. Andrews is a sports medicine specialist who sees a wide variety of orthopedic complaints – he’s done a seen NBA, NFL, and MLB players for knee, ankel, hip and achilles problems.
Any injury to a muscle is a sports injury that is going to be evaluated by an orthopedic surgeon specializing in sports medicine.
Andrews is considered amongst the best. That’s why Joba is seeing him.
He does far more than simply operate on shoulders.
DFox – exactly. The speculation on this topic is borderline insane.
CB, dude, i guess you mean, by “good”, that’s it’s not career threatening.
The last two times the Yankees sent starting pitchers to Andrews that I can recall off the top of my head were (1) Wang in 2005 (he was out for two months, although they’d feared worse at first); and (2) Pavano last year.
(Posada saw him as well before or after Altcheck. We all know how that turned out.)
I can’t fathom they would send him to Andrews and still pitch him again this season.
this is terrible news. if joba isn’t at 100 percent the yankees have to sit him and wait until he is. bring hughes and kennedy back up and use them as one pitcher.
I have a bad feeling, but I hope I’m wrong. No point in speculating all night over what it is.
Anything with the shoulder isn’t good for a pitcher.
He’s thrown his last pitch this year for sure.
let’s hope he needs rehab and not surgery.
It’s not that Joba’s seeing Dr. Andrews that bothers me, it’s that the Yankees won’t reveal what was on the MRI.
Back to Jorge’s point, we even somehow managed to survive the lean years without instantaneous access to information. Actually, it was kind of like radio versus TV. Information wasn’t perfect, but the experience was no less rich.
CB,
true, and an excellent point. what i’m saying is, this is more than a cramp or a strain, in all likelihood. i can’t recall the last time somebody saw andrews for a strained delt.
looks like we won’t know anything until tomorrow at the earliest, and probably not even then. jobagate continues.
Isn’t Giese starting on Friday?
Did Pete mean to say Saturday?
This year has really been unbelievable. We lose Posada for the whole year, Matsui and Wang for most of it, A-Rod for a month, and now Joba.
Why can’t the Melkys and the Gardners and the Richie Sexsons of the team get hit with the year-ending injuries instead???
The MRI def caught something.
He’s def out of action for this season.
He’s not even technically a shoulder specialist, is he? He’s sports medicine specialist who happens to be an orthopedic surgeon.
And I’d always get a second opinion – on anything. My MIL died of cervical cancer because she didn’t get a second opinion.
Well, after all of the hype and coddling of Joba, it would be highly ironic if this is serious.
I wouldn’t reveal it either, not if they’re waiting for a second opinion.
I wonder if its Joba’s mechanics that are causing the shoulder strain? Drivelinemechanics.com did say that he was late at footstrike, and he was bringing his arm through the horizontal plane too late for comfort. I imagine that would cause unneeded stress on the shoulder(?) I wonder if a mechanical adjustment is necessary for Joba.
“the fact that the yankees aren’t revealing the results of the MRI does not speak to it being clean.”
Kasey,
We knew there was something wrong – even if it was “only” a muscle strain in his deltoid. This was never a cramp.
The yankees rarely reveal the results of test before they are ready to.
And in the situation where a player is obtaining a second opinion – an opinion he may have requested himself – it would actually be completely innapropriate to release the results of the test before that second opinion.
A big part of Joba’s exam with Andrews will be Andrews looking at Joba’s MRI himself. Until Andrews reads that MRI it’s just not appropriate to release the readings from the doctors at Columbia, Hirschorn, or whatever doctor the yankees had look at the MRI.
The yankees are very close to the vest with information on injuries we all know that. They let this information leak on purpose. I don’t think they let it leak if their initial readings from the MRI were bad.
They don’t send “cramps” to see Dr not Erin Andrews.
link here:
http://drivelinemechanics.com/.....amberlain/
and here, when they say he does not form the inverted W/L:
http://drivelinemechanics.com/.....amberlain/
I will hold judgement on Joba’s fate to they tell me.. I will not try to act like a Dr. since I am not one.. Maybe the Hendricks boys just want to protect there investment just like the Yanks…
“Dan Graziano: Loss of Joba Chamberlain wouldn’t doom Yankees’ playoff chances”
Pretty sure I said the same thing last night.
S.O.S. – No cats, but the birds and squirrels who now think my back deck is a wild life refuge play me like a fiddle!
(The amount of wild bird feed that I go through in a week gives a totally different meaning to the saying “eats like a bird!”)
“The MRI def caught something.
He’s def out of action for this season.”
This diagnosis today was brought you by the letters M and D.
“Well, after all of the hype and coddling of Joba, it would be highly ironic if this is serious.”
Yes. It would be.
A 2nd opinion is always needed…I didn’t expect Joba to NOT have a 2nd opinion. I’d probably feel less comfy if he didn’t, unless they were 1000% certain.
i tried posting the links to the analysis of joba’s mechanics…not sure if it worked. if you prefer, go to drivelinemechanics dot com and do a search for joba. the first two pieces that come up are very informative – tell you all about his tempo, arm action, footstrike, and whether he forms an inverted W/L.
How is it acting like a doctor? He has a shoulder problem. The MRI def caught something otherwise why would they send him to a doctor in Alabama who is renowned for elbows and shoulders?
Use some common sense. You don’t need seven years of med school.
“Andrews scoped Clemens shoulder in 1985 (found nothing) and repaired Pettite’s elbow in 2004.”
with or without PEDs, that guy went on to win a few ball games…
I’ve been to see an orthopedic surgeon for something as simple as calf cramps. my leg wasn’t amputated.
CB: if Joba is headed to alabama. Then the yankees had no choice. They had to leak it.
Fact: the Yankees won more games in the 1980′s than any other MLB franchise.
IMO, i wouldnt plan on seeing Joba for a month.
thans an arbitrary deadline, yeah, but if they are sending him for a 2nd opinion, there needs to be a potential for a differing opinion on something.
they arent going to push him to come back and take a chance on his career. i actually wouldnt be surprised if it was minor, and they still held him out for the rest of the season.
time to watch Hughes’s start in Scranton even more closely.
“i guess you mean, by “goodâ€, that’s it’s not career threatening.”
KS,
Honestly, at this point I’m not even 5% concerned about whether or not Joba misses the rest of this season.
The only thing I care about right now is whether or not this injury could be in any way career threatening. Until we know that I’m not too focused on losing him for this season.
His shoulder dwarfs this season. It will be painful if he can’t pitch this year – but that’s baseball.
If he can’t pitch again the way we’ve seen him perform – that’s a small tragedy. That’s something the franchise will not fully recover from. They can make up for it by they can’t ever just make it a non-issue.
So by “good” yes I mean it’s non-career threatening.
Until we know that, IMO this season is very much an afterthought.
“Dan Graziano: Loss of Joba Chamberlain wouldn’t doom Yankees’ playoff chancesâ€
Pretty sure I said the same thing last night.
You should be writing for the Star Ledger!!
Pat yourself on the back.
bad news
i probably agree w/ vinny-b on that one.
reporter: is joba in NY?
girardi: no he is not.
reporter: is he back with the team?
girardi: no he is not
reporter: where is he?
girardi: i can’t tell you that, joel.
headline of NY post tomorrow?
JOBA MISSING!!!
He’s not pitching again this season. I think everyone should come to grips with that fact now.
He’s not the nail in the season’s coffin. He will be if they do make the playoffs though. Because they certainly don’t have the SP to win a playoff series.
“Fact: the Yankees won more games in the 1980’s than any other MLB franchise.”
Fact: You don’t remember the 1980s.
CB,
i don’t think the yanks would have been able to sneak chamberlain off to alabama to see andrews. they really had no choice but to “leak” the information.
hopefully you’re right. however, no real news plus a trip to dr andrews is not a “best case” scenario.
“otherwise why would they send him to a doctor in Alabama who is renowned for elbows and shoulders?”
What’s so difficult to understand? He is extremely valuable to them, even if the MRI showed NOTHING, how can you put him on the mound in 10 days based on 1 doctors opinion? If he actually had an injury, they wouldn’t be able to live with themselves. That’s why you send him to Andrews, to make sure it isn’t anything like that. Either way, if showed something, if it showed nothing, you have to send him to Andrews.
Too bad about Joba. Looks like we finally got our own Mark Prior.
“if Joba is headed to alabama. Then the yankees had no choice. They had to leak it.”
Players get second opinions from Andrews frequently without anyone knowing or only knowing after his examination.
They wouldn’t necessarily need to leak that just because he’s going to Alabama.
lol im waiting for the people to start saying, ” See it was a bad move to put in the rotation”.haha
Anybody with half a brain would seek a second or third opinion on a health issue that affects their livelihood. Joba and the Yankees would be irresponsible if they did anything less.
“He’s not pitching again this season. I think everyone should come to grips with that fact now.”
Look if it helps you somehow to believe this, then you should go right ahead.
But telling other people what they should do – well I’m afraid thats not your choice to make. I prefer to wait and see.
hopefully Joba doesn’t need surgery and it is just a thing like papelbon had to go through in 2006….just shut him down for the season, strengthen like hell in the offseason, and they are fine the next year…add a healthy Joba to the mix (fingers crossed) and you get something like this
Wang
Pettitte (resigned)
Joba
Hughes
Kennedy
Go yanks
Not true DFox.
Not every injury suffered by a player requires a second opinion.
Dr. Andrews is not the Yankees chief ortho. He is the guy the Hendricks Brothers use for their clients.
The Yankees are very good about players seeing their own doctor. For example, Posada wanted Altcheck to not only examine him but do his surgery. Some teams insist you use their doctor. The Yankees don’t operate that way.
Clearly, the MRI showed some type of damage in the shoulder. If it didn’t, or if it was just a deltoid strain, he wouldn’t be going to see Dr. Andrews.
It doesn’t mean its serious or that he needs surgery.
Two years ago, Jonathan Papelbon walked off the mound holding his shoulder against the Yankees in that 5 game series. Everybody thought the worst.
He was diagnosed with a shoulder injury that was brought on by fatigue and underwent an aggressive, non-surgical rehab program.
Obviously, the MRI showed something significant enough to warrant Andrews looking at the results.
Like I said, it doesn’t mean its serious. But, it does mean its something. We just don’t know the severity of the injury yet.
Don’t live in denial, DFox. The MRI def showed something. Even Pete says so and who knows the team better?
Andrews will take a second look and reco the treatment. Hopefully, it will be rest and rehab. Surgery would knock him out til 2010.
the posts, hysteria, and couch Dr.s are amazing. As D fox just posted the yanks and JOba and the Hendricks need a 2nd opinion regardless if it is nothing or serious.. The guy is a potential superstar and needs to be handled correctly. If you have not noticed pitching and injuries are 1 in the same……..
Wouldn’t it be funny if a rotation of Mussina, Pettitte, Hughes, Ponson/Pavano, and Rasner/Giese suddenly goes on a surge and leads us to the playoffs and an upset of the Angels in round one?
“If he can’t pitch again the way we’ve seen him perform – that’s a small tragedy. That’s something the franchise will not fully recover from. They can make up for it by they can’t ever just make it a non-issue.”
I agree.
There’s probably some short-sighted folks out there who think we just go out and sign two pitchers instead of one this offseason, and all will be fine. Those folks would be missing one big point.
I think it would have a severe impact on how this franchise views player development. That would be sad indeed, as what this franchise is still in the infancy of accomplishing development-wise could be special indeed.
My homer predictions of today are arod and nady. Yesterday i was 1 for 3 in my predictions.
hopefully it is something like…they saw something minor, and they are checking with the real professional to make sure it is nothing serious
reno – not an entirely apt comparison, even if joba turns out to be a bust like prior. joba’s mechanical problems aren’t even close to being as bad as priors.
thank you for the update on Joba, Pete. i was about to have a coronary.
I don’t want to see him again this year if he has a shoulder issue. You really should come to grips with it now Angel.
Whoever brought up Papelbon is spot on.
Joba may have to go to the bullpen after all. Ironic.
“Wouldn’t it be funny if a rotation of Mussina, Pettitte, Hughes, Ponson/Pavano, and Rasner/Giese suddenly goes on a surge and leads us to the playoffs and an upset of the Angels in round one?”
why not? it’s called banding together and overcoming the odds. it’s what you wish every team did.
Just had to get in on the discussioon concerning the female posters on this blog. I really think that there are more women posters that you realize here. I can call myself anything, but you have no idea who I really am!
As for the female posters that we DO know, most of them offer very intelligent baseball talk. I have also noticed that MOST of the posters who are ready to jump off the bridge at every set back for the Yankees this year are usually men.
That said, if you have a problem communicating with women in anything but coarse, suggestive language, you are really a LOSER!
I tip my hat to the ladies and GENTLEMEN of this blog. It’s a great place to catch up on Yankees news (Pete’s posts) and to hear MOSTLY intelligent baseball talk!
And thanks again to SJ for calming the waters yet again with some sense!
Go Yankees!
See you in ’09, Joba.
Why is everybody surpised Joba got hurt.Why do you think he wasn’t a first round draft pick.He’s weight and health issues (like 90% of our system) is why he fell to us.
Look at Hughes and Wang every year there in the DL.
SJ44 – what about a scenario where the Yankee doctor says nothing is structurally wrong and he just needs to miss a start – don’t you think the Hendricks might want to get a second opinion to protect their investment.. given that he’s making league minimum (or thereabout) and is years away from his big payday?
look it up Jorge Steinbrenner. you will be surprised, apparently. the yankees won more games in the 1980′s than any other team.
Pavano isn’t helping this team. No one in that locker room trusts him. He’s less respected than Igawa.
“look it up Jorge Steinbrenner. you will be surprised, apparently. the yankees won more games in the 1980’s than any other team.”
Terrific! And they had 1 World Series and playoff appearance. Awesome!
Winning games solves everything and the team would support Pavano if he showed up in the majors and gave them 6 to 7 innings a start for the stretch run.
Rebecca as a fellow female blogger THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!
Joba news leaves me scared.
Come on Andy!
“Fact: You don’t remember the 1980s.”
The only thing I remember from the 80′s baseball years is Don Mattingly. Everything else I’ve managed to block out. I don’t remember 2004 either.
SJ, tell us how to live tonight with this news? Thank you.
I gotta agree with DFox at least some what.
If I was the Hendricks, and the MRI showed nothing, I would still want Joba to go see Dr. Andrews. Why risk the future of my client without getting a second opinion and making sure he isn’t hurt?, if that is what the MRI showed.
Has Austin Jackson shifted from CF to LF for any particular reason?
“Clearly, the MRI showed some type of damage in the shoulder. If it didn’t, or if it was just a deltoid strain, he wouldn’t be going to see Dr. Andrews.”
How do you know that? If it showed nothing, how can you put him out on the mound 5 or 10 days from now? Roll the dice and hope doctor #1 of 1 who examined him didn’t miss anything? That’s not a very smart tactic.
Peabody, you’re either a complete idiot or you should be in the medical industry for a living. You can diagnose people based on what you see on TV and what doctors they are sent to. You’ll be so rich it won’t even be fair! Dr. Andrews better watch out because Peabody is the new up and coming specialist in the sports industry.
wading throught the 200 posts today was very interseting..
My opinion: I dislike Dr. Andrews, i have worked with him and sent athletes to him. He is very conservative and it seems the people he operates on have trouble returning to action in a timely manner.
Now saying that: Andrews is widely renowned in the athletic world as the “shoulder guy”. I can see the yankees sending Joba to him, for a variety of reasons…they could include rehab options and/or surgery options.
I said this before and i’ll say it again, joba claimed he still had good velocity, when you have a rotator cuff issue or a labrum issue, you dont hear the guy saying i still had good velocity. You hear things like what jorge said “my arm feels dead” or “i just cant put anything on the throw”. I think this is either a muscular injury (a muscle strain is a tear in the muscle, it just varies by degrees)or a tendonitis of the biceps tendon.
To the person who said ” the deltoid is not the shoulder” get out an anatomy book. The deltoids, both the anterior and posterier deltoid are very much the muscles that make up the shoulder. As well as the biceps tendon, the rotator cuff, the shoulder capsule, the traps and the AC joint tendons.
“Pavano isn’t helping this team. No one in that locker room trusts him. He’s less respected than Igawa.”
No doubt. I bet you even Jeter would be hard pressed to find something nice to say about Pavano. And Jeter speaks well of everyone.
Look, there’s no way the MRI showed NOTHING. Maybe it showed a minor strain, whatever. But you don’t have a “pop”, shoulder pain, an MRI, and then a flight to see Dr. James Andrews of Birmingham, AL, and have an MRI with nothing on it.
I would love it if that was the case, but I’ll send everyone reading this comment a dollar if there was nothing on his MRI.
“look it up Jorge Steinbrenner. you will be surprised, apparently. the yankees won more games in the 1980’s than any other team.”
you have to be 12. there’s simply no excuse for a comment this stupid.
they won a lot of games, but not ONE AL East title between 1981 and 1994. trust me, i can look it up in a million places…..and i think back and remember it as well.
there was this time, a long time ago, back when you only carried an album’s worth of music in your pocket at time, when there wasn’t this thing called a “Wild Card.”
what the LoHud blog have looked like then…..as some BBS service on Compuserve?
A riveting Bartolo Colon vs. Kei Igawa pitching matchup about to get underway in Scranton tonight.
Hey Machinist: The Yankees of the 80s had a great offense, but couldn’t pitch to save themselves. They regularly missed the playoffs by small margins, because they couldn’t slug their way to first. It was painful to watch Rickey, Winfield, and Mattingly hit like crazy but go home every October.
“This diagnosis today was brought you by the letters M and D.”
Angel
Thanks for the chuckle.
” It’s getting late early “
“SJ44 – what about a scenario where the Yankee doctor says nothing is structurally wrong and he just needs to miss a start – don’t you think the Hendricks might want to get a second opinion to protect their investment.. given that he’s making league minimum (or thereabout) and is years away from his big payday?”
WELL said. A scenario like that would also explain why Cashman didn’t want to say anything yet before sending him there, just to make sure the initial diagnoses was correct and there was no damage.
Not saying that that is definitely what it is, but if people can say they found something, it’s just as easy to argue that they didn’t find anything. All speculation.
“The only thing I remember from the 80’s baseball years is Don Mattingly. Everything else I’ve managed to block out.”
As president of the “Roy Smalley Fan Club” I am devestated.
word. Joba’s long-term health, is only what matters.
I would sacrifice a nyy 2008 world championship, for the safety of joba’s career. As most of you, prolly would.
“Peabody, you’re either a complete idiot or you should be in the medical industry for a living.”
DFox, why are you so quick to call people idiots? According to you, everyone who doesn’t agree with you is an idiot.
I have a feeling that if you were talking to us in person, you’d choose your words more wisely.
“Has Austin Jackson shifted from CF to LF for any particular reason?”
to make consipracy theorists think he’ll be called up to play in the pinstripes for the stretch run this year.
Kennedy was picked ahead of Joba for a reason. Time for him to prove it.
Whatever happens, you still have to play the game.
“Terrific! And they had 1 World Series and playoff appearance. Awesome!”
Sure, but they still were generally a decent team. It’s not the trainwreck people think it was. That would be 1989-1992. That was a trainwreck.
The Yankees had 97 wins in 1985. They had 90 wins in 1986. They had 89 wins in 1987. They had 91 wins in 1984. They had 87 wins in 1984. These teams were good teams, just not the best. But alas there was no wild card back then.
So let’s end this mtyh that the 1980′s Yankees were the most godawful teams of all time. The yankees won more games in the 1980′s than any other team in abseball. That is pretty good.
Smalley could hit a bit. In the field, however, he made Giambi look like Jim Spencer.
“As president of the “Roy Smalley Fan Club†I am devestated.”
Roy Smalley has a Fan club?
So how much of a chance does everyone think Wang Joba and Hughes will be in the starting rotation on opening day next year? I’ll say about a 3 % chance.
No one said they were godawful. But they were frustrating, because they couldn’t pitch. Guess you had to be there to understand.
“Kennedy was picked ahead of Joba for a reason”
either that. Or an over-draft.
Michelle thanks for the great post.. WOW you sound like you know what you are talking about to me…
“Roy Smalley has a Fan club?”
Sure – next you’ll be telling me you never heard of the “Steve Kemp Appreciation Society”!
“DFox, why are you so quick to call people idiots? According to you, everyone who doesn’t agree with you is an idiot.
I have a feeling that if you were talking to us in person, you’d choose your words more wisely.”
Because anyone who can offer a 100% diagnoses on him, like he’s out for the season, based on the information we have, has to not be thinking 100% straight.
And you act like such a big shot and like you’re so important, because your posts must be more important that everyone else’s being that your name should be bolded with a fake site so your posts stand out. You should be banned for doing that if you don’t have a real site. It’s blatant post whoring.
“As president of the “Roy Smalley Fan Club†I am devestated.”
as i’m on Baseball Almanac right now, here’s some great names to remember…
Marty Bystrom
Bryan Dayett
Joe Cowley
Vic Mata
Alfonso Pulido
Paul “0 for his first 40″ Zuvella
Kevin Mmahat
Jimmy Jones
Torey Lovullo
and, of course, the entire ’91 pitching, just awesome in the glorious suckitude
“No one said they were godawful. But they were frustrating, because they couldn’t pitch. Guess you had to be there to understand.”
I was there. I do understand they were frustrating to root for. But I think people overreact way too much about these 80′s teams being failures. They were good teams, but not the best teams.
“Joe Cowley”
Ah yes – million dollar arm but a 10 cents brain…
Ortiz and Lowell are both in the lineup today.
“I was there. I do understand they were frustrating to root for. But I think people overreact way too much about these 80’s teams being failures. They were good teams, but not the best teams.”
i never said they were bad teams. what i asked is what the hell the “i don’t know what i’ll do with myself if we don’t make the playoffs this year” crowd did back then, other than wear Met hats in ’86.
I’ll tell you how I know that.
If it was something, say a minor strain, the Yankees could have put out the following release:
“The MRI given to Joba Chamberlain showed a minor strain of the shoulder. He is now en route to Alabama to see Dr. James Andrews to receive a second opinion”.
Go back and look at the statements they issued when Jeter got drilled by Cabrera. They couldn’t wait to put a release out saying his X-Rays were negative. Jeter never went for a second opinion on his hand. He was in the lineup the next day.
If the MRI showed good news (“good” meaning an insignificant injury), the Yankees would have been front and center with that news. They won’t talk about the MRI. I’m not being a conspiracy theorist. That just tells me something showed up on the MRI that requires a second opinion and they aren’t talking until they get it.
“Even though I expect it, I still hope it’s not career ending for Joba.”
Jumping the gun there a bit methinks.
Were they fun to watch in the late 80s? Yes, if you like offense. It seemed that Rickey would get on base and score almost every first inning. However, pitching-wise, the only highlight that sticks in my head was Niekro’s 300th win on the last weekend in Toronto. And I also remember Seaver painfully winning his 300th against the Yanks at the Stadium.
What is the deal with Erin Andrews? She is slightly attractive, but that’s it.
The more important issue is why is she doing sideline reporting? She is average to poor at best. I would prefer Suzan Waldman to her. At least Suzan has knowledge of the game. But, of course, Suzan isn’t “hot” like Erin. At least that’s how ESPN sees it.
Even with Joba the Yanks are not making the playoffs this year, and if sitting Joba for the remainder of the year to rest and rehab his shoulder for next year is called for, then do it. He and Hughes are valuable keys to the Yankees future success. You don’t mess with that on the whim that we might make the playoffs this year.
“they won a lot of games, but not ONE AL East title between 1981 and 1994.”
You are way out of line. I merely stated a fact, that the Yanks of the 80′s won more games than any other team. It is a fact, it cannot be disputed. I didn’t follow that up with any other comment. For example, I didn’t say “this negates the lack of world championships” or anything along those lines. I simply stated that they won more games than any other team. And then you go off on a tangent about how I must not rmember the 80′s and have stupid comments. I stated a fact, without any kind of analysis. You need to calm down buddy.
career ending ? BoSux trolls need to crawl away and die slowly…as in NOW !
Next, someone is going to bring up Walt “No Neck” Williams from the 70s.
“…highlight that sticks in my head was Niekro’s 300th win on the last weekend in Toronto.”
I remember that too… ironically I think Neikro only threw a couple of knuckle balls – the rest were curves and fastballs (yes – fastballs)…
Look at the 80s Yanks this way – Shane Rawley was consider a top starter… Shane f’n Rawley!
this is no good
“And you act like such a big shot and like you’re so important, because your posts must be more important that everyone else’s being that your name should be bolded with a fake site so your posts stand out. You should be banned for doing that if you don’t have a real site. It’s blatant post whoring.”
?????????? wha?????
“career ending ? BoSux trolls need to crawl away and die slowly…as in NOW !”
major shoulder injuries, are career ending. Doesn’t take a troll, to post that.
hopefully, it is not major.
“If it was something, say a minor strain, the Yankees could have put out the following release:”
Again, you keep speculating. What would happen if they make that release, and Andrews happens to find something? Why would you mis-inform everyone to give them the news 1 day earlier? Does it harm the Yankees at all of we don’t know what’s up with him for 24 more hours? I doubt it. But it would harm them if they gave good news and then after Andrews looked at him they had to chance that news to something bad…
And Jeter’s was a bone injury if anything, which is a terrible comparison. Here you’re talking about a complex shoulder which can have a heap of injuries and can end a pitchers career.
Actually one of the most calming feelings, believe it or not, is knowing that I don’t have a clue about what’s going on with Joba and will just have to wait until the Yankees are ready to make an announcement. I don’t bother driving myself crazy with trying to figure out which iteration out of the hundreds put foward here might be the correct – if any indeed are! We’ll find out what we find out in due time.
Meantime, we have some games to win!
GO YANKEES!
“I stated a fact, without any kind of analysis.”
…and what purpose would there be in stating that fact, considering the thread that preceded it? spare me.
Whatever is going on with Joba(dear god, please nothing too bad), they still have play the game tonight. Hopefully we can get a win.
Yankees offense-Be awake! Go Yanks!
Oh, one other thing, if Pavano so much as gets within 10 ft. of a major league mound for the Yankees, I’m coming through this computer screen to personally strangle Joe Girardi.
That is all -
“And you act like such a big shot and like you’re so important, because your posts must be more important that everyone else’s being that your name should be bolded with a fake site so your posts stand out. You should be banned for doing that if you don’t have a real site. It’s blatant post whoring.”
Wow. I had no idea that I had made such an impression on you. I act like I’m a big shot? I’m getting the feeling that you are a very young person. You have to be if you think I’m acting like a big shot. I keep forgetting that ANYONE can post here; even children or adults who act like children. I’ll have to make a mental note of that.
“?????????? wha?????”
I was under the impression that the “Website” field was for people who have a WEBSITE so they could link to it. I didn’t think it was for random text for people who wanted to make their names bold. I mean why else would you enter a non-existent website in the website field?
While his season is in jeopardy, Andrews has saved many a career. Certainly someone as young as Joba can come back even from a major injury.
SJ44 as much i agree with you, that the yanks could have said ” the mri revealed a muscle strain”its not the same standards as with Jeter’s hand. X-rays are usually cut and dry, its very easy to see a fx in a bone- its either there or its not. Because an MRI works off of magnetic images, sometimes, its not so cut and dry. Things like swelling can sometimes give false positives. Its probably in the best interest of the ynaks to send Joba to a renowned shoulder specialist for a 2nd opinion before they make a public statement and have to eat crow about it.
ZMann, were you more frustrated with the mid 80′s teams that were so close to making the playoffs, or the 1990-1992 teams that had no chance at all? I think the reason we all remember the 80′s teams as being more frustrating is because if they just had some decent pitching they could have done some special things. The 1990-1992 teams were just plain awful and there was no drama about it. We knew they sucked.
So even though the 1980′s teams were very frutsrating at times, I would much rather endure that frutsration to watch a good team try to make the playoffs then watch an absolutely terrible team like the 1990 Yankees.
Or think about it like this. Would you rather the Yankees be on pace for 65 wins this year, or 88 wins? If they were on pace for 65 wins there is a good chance we wouldn’t care about a lot of the little things with as much passion, like having a back of the rotation of Ponson/Giese, because it wouldn’t really matter since the team wouldn’t be going anywehere anyway. But since they are on the fringe of being a playoff team, it makes all these little things mean so much more and every little decision riles us up a bit more when it doesn’t work out.
SJ44-
Not to be overly negative….
But you brought up Papelbon. Would the Yankees ever move Joba back to the bullpen if they thought that his arm couldn’t hold up long term being a starter? Maybe it is silly to talk about this now, but I suppose it could be an option if Joba had some serious rehab ahead of him.
Is this the worst season for injuries or what? A shame too as I feel like we’d be in a great spot had we not lost so many key guys. Can’t be sure we have what it takes to replace Joba. Someone is going to have the best 2 months of their career. Yanks lost too many stupid games this year. Too many soft spots in the lineup for too long. Lot of “too”‘s going on here. here’s one more
It’s not too late for them to get in.
Pettite wins tonight.
IMarty Bystrom
Bryan Dayett
Joe Cowley
Vic Mata
Alfonso Pulido
Paul “0 for his first 40″ Zuvella
Kevin Mmahat
Jimmy Jones
Torey Lovullo
I just had an 80′s flashback.
Vic Mata is a Yankee scout now.
“And you act like such a big shot and like you’re so important, because your posts must be more important that everyone else’s being that your name should be bolded with a fake site so your posts stand out. You should be banned for doing that if you don’t have a real site. It’s blatant post whoring.â€
wow.
I really, really, in retrospect, love the ’91 Yankees. I’m sure there’s a late 60′s/early 70′s equivalent, but it’s just like Clay Parker, Chuck Cary, and Jeff Johnson happened, and then were swallowed up by the earth and never seen again.
somehow, the earth managed to spit up Wade Taylor and Dave Eiland.
“…and what purpose would there be in stating that fact, considering the thread that preceded it? spare me.”
This is irrelevant. The bottom line is that I stated a fact, and you were out of line to jump all over me about it, when it was 100% true.
Keith Foulke went to see Andrews once and the Sox said he was off at a barbecue.
This injury is serious. If it was muscular and only required rest, they probably wouldn’t have sent him off. And if it was nothing, same deal (how many times do guys go get MRIs and that’s it? All the time). He won’t be back this season.
“I mean why else would you enter a non-existent website in the website field?”
Why does it matter one iota to you though?
I really dont get it.
Steve:
I disagree, a shoulder is so complex, mri’s arent always so telling and why not send him to get a 2nd opinion, just to make sure..whether its good or bad.
“Why does it matter one iota to you though?
I really dont get it.”
It wouldn’t matter to me if I didn’t have to look at your posts which stand out because your name is in bold. If everyone misused to website field, like you and Laura do, then the threads would be difficult to read. The only reason I can see anyone doing that is to get more attention. Is it that crazy of me to believe that the website field should be used by people who have websites? That seems like a more logical use for it than what you two use it for, making yourselves seem more important than everyone else…
Yanks will not take any chances with Joba-he will be shut down until next year.
Everybody, myself included predicted that Hughes would win 12-15 and Kennedy would be good for 10-12. Well they have a total of zero so far.
Huges and Kennedy need to step up big in the next six weeks. If they could each win 5-7 games down the stretch that wold be huge
DFox,
Read Pete’s 6:41 post. The Yankees KNOW the results of the MRI.
Andrews is not giving him another MRI. He is reviewing the pictures. In other words, he is there to confirm the original diagnosis. He can’t “find” anything unless he gives him another MRI. That’s most likely not going to happen. It didn’t happen when he reviewed Posada’s pictures when he visited Andrews. Andrews is reviewing most likely because the Hendricks Brothers requested he do so. That’s common industry practice with good agents and a team that doesn’t get upset when its players seek second opinions.
Hand injuries are tougher to diagnose than shoulder injuries. The career ending nature of the injuries has no bearing in reaching a diagnosis. Why? X-rays often don’t show some of the small bones that could be broken in a hand.
Shoulder MRI’s aren’t that complex. Its all muscle which show up quite easily on MRI’s.
The Yankees know exactly what’s wrong with Joba. They will have Andrews review the results, get together with him, and agree on a course of action.
They know the problem. They just aren’t interested in saying what it is right now. Not saying that’s a bad thing.
I’m just saying that the Yankees aren’t going to be shocked by what Andrews says after he examines Joba.
SJ44: you are wrong there dude. X-rays are more telling in the hand than anywhere else in the body. SHoulder MRI’s sometimes dont show squat. Swelling sometimes wreaks havoc on MRI results.
Okay.
I thought using the word whoring was out of line and remarkabely offensive, but you’ve shown your true colors today, so I’m no longer surprised.
I changed the website in my name anyways… just for you.
giardi kinda down playing the James Andrews visit.
let us hope, for the best.
Michelle,
What about the times X-Rays miss small bone fractures or breaks in the hand?
Several years ago, Albert Pujols got hit in the hand by a pitch. He underwent several X-Rays and none showed any breaks. Same thing happened on a couple of occasions to Jeff Bagwell in his career.
After two weeks of being in constant pain, Pujols went to see a hand specialist who found a small bone fracture in his hand.
Agreed, re: the swelling issue in shoulders. However, if his shoulder isn’t swollen, wouldn’t you say the MRI could give a pretty clear picture of what’s going on in there?
I’m not asking to be a jerk. I’m asking because I’m honestly seeking your opinion on this because I know you are in the medical field.
“The only reason I can see anyone doing that is to get more attention.”
If this were true (and it’s not), why do you care? I have the same question to the person who was complaining because Brandon’s name includes Jeter’s DP count. Why do you care? It’s not affecting your life. Since you have such a problem with me, I would think the bold would help you filter out my posts more. You should be thanking me, not complaining like a 5 year old over something that is totally innocent and insignificant.
“Swelling sometimes wreaks havoc on MRI results.”
and it does the same in xrays.
mri’s are the most accurate form of diagnostic imaging that physicians have.
“I changed the website in my name anyways… just for you.”
What a great website. LMAO!!!
I had three MRI’s on my shoulder in 8 months and none of them revealed the labrum tear and superspinatus tear i had. I just had some horrible dead arm and awful pain when i slept. It took 3 dr.s and arthroscopic surgery to finally find and repair the tears as well as rebuild my shoulder capsule.
So MRI’s arent always correct.
We need a little good news. Hideki took about 25 pitches of live BP in the cage today.
I was just about to post that, Michelle…
As most of you know I just had shoulder surgery (they did a bunch of stuff) and my 3 shoulder MRIs showed nothing. a CT showed a tumor that we were trying to get a better look at and when they finally went in, they found a bone spur, tear and impingement.
It was up to my doctor to realize that the MRI was not the ultimate decision-maker.
I don’t know what they may or may not have seen in the MRI, but if he is still in pain and the MRI came up clean, it is still better to go see the expert to make sure.
BTW – per my DR and PT, it is completely normal for an MRI to be clean and for there to be a problem…
I say the Yanks should tank in September, let all the vets rest up bring up AAA kids to do our bidding. Wait for the season to end and then put down the baffos to get CC. 09 is now officially the priority not 08.
Visiting Dr Andrews is never good. It’s too bad this happened, I was starting to think the Yankees had a chance to make some noise this year with their good bullpen and new acquisitions.
even RAB gets it:
“Joba’s MRI is heading to Dr. James Andrews for a second opinion, which sounds really bad, but anyone with half a brain understands that something like this gets second, third, and fourth opinions, plus the last pitch he threw yesterday registered 96, something you can’t do with a major shoulder issue.”
and, somehow, they didn’t blame this on Melky, which is a first for them.
Well, if it wasn’t before, it is now: season over. Let’s make moves with next year in mind. UGH. One of the crazier season’s in memory.
Andrews is the best orthopedist around he’ll know for sure what the course of action should be. IMO Joba should rest up for 09 he will likely be counted on for lots of innings best idea is to let him rehab it maybe toss some winter league and see you in the new ballpark.
“I say the Yanks should tank in September, let all the vets rest up bring up AAA kids to do our bidding. Wait for the season to end and then put down the baffos to get CC. 09 is now officially the priority not 08″
not a bad idea.
no need to rush the Jacksons and Melancons of this world, tho.
I actually have mine in bold, because the silly tosser who insists on impersonating me, it makes it just that little bit harder for them.
Jorge – we still blame Melky.
Surprised to see Papi in the lineup.
SJ44:yes, you are right, without swelling..you might be able to see a clear picture. Which i wasnt discounting. I remember the pujols injury and i think the dr’s said the fracture was thought to be seen on the first x ray but they werent sure and sent him for other xrays, which in turn revealed nothing, probably because of swelling. I think the hand specialist caught something on the first x ray and then had his own x rays taken and made the diagnosis.
MRI’s are great, cat/bone scans are better they reveal things with or with out swelling.
“and, somehow, they didn’t blame this on Melky, which is a first for them.”
i am not totally ready to exonerate Melky of all wrongdoing, however.
ok….all of you….off to bed.
No snack either…
No more Yankees until you learn to play nicely together.
I have to say, I’m both embarassed and shocked that Mike A. from RAB is on here.
Angel, you’re having too much fun with your URLs, i must say…
“Visiting Dr Andrews is never good. It’s too bad this happened, I was starting to think the Yankees had a chance to make some noise this year with their good bullpen and new acquisitions.”
Good thing Nady and Damaso Proctor are both returning. Some more names to look forward to next year. Humberto Sanchez, Andrew Brackman, and possibly Ajax.
Anyone Red Sox haters out there who fear wearing the NYY at Fenway, just pick up a Texas jersey with Murphy on the back.
Although, I wonder if anyone of them are astute enough to know who that is.
You guys are so bleeping funny. You act like someone died. Joba, Jorge, and Wang aren’t the only guys on the team. You still have a 25-man roster to finish the last 1/3 of the season. Anything can happen. Too f’in funny.
Okay, so now IPK is going to start one of the games in LA. Should be interesting.
Isn’t it ‘good news’ that he hasn’t been dl’ed yet?
Couple of things here:
Couldn’t we have chosen separate threads to carry on discussions about both Erin Andrews and Dr. Andrews simultaneously…
‘Joba is going to see Andrews which can’t be good’
Sure it can, if it’s Erin.
And secondly, there is no point in arguing with each other and going back and forth until we know more information about it. Some of us will be right, some wrong. No use trying to decipher what each and every comment released means. The results will come out eventually.
Until then, this could go on all night and still nothing would be resolved. Hopefully Joba’s injury is not serious and we can all breathe a sigh of relief. If not, he’ll do what he needs to do to be healthy for next season.
“MRI’s are great, cat/bone scans are better they reveal things with or with out swelling.”
MRI’s are better, and more accurate, for diagnosing purposes than CT scans, especially when taking pictures of bone, or connective tissue. CT’s are better for soft tissue, like organs, muscles, etc.
but MDs are best to use a combination of each of these scans to paint the best picture.
In the order of the fist, the acronym MRI stands for one thing and one thing only:
MUST
RAGE
INTENSELY
The mother bear will protect her cub.
Clemens will bang his fist.
“Anyone Red Sox haters out there who fear wearing the NYY at Fenway, just pick up a Texas jersey with Murphy on the back”
lol.
“You act like someone died.”
It probably feels like the season died. I have to admit that I don’t like our chances if Joba is out. However, I am not ready to jump into Lake Michigan until I hear what the tests revealed. If they say he’s done for the year, well ….. let’s just say that I’m not going to be in the best of moods for the rest of the season.
“You guys are so bleeping funny. You act like someone died. Joba, Jorge, and Wang aren’t the only guys on the team. You still have a 25-man roster to finish the last 1/3 of the season. Anything can happen. Too f’in funny.”
So we should be confident having lost both of our Aces and one of the best catchers in baseball? Sometimes faith runs out this is one of those times.
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28 to 62 made no sense.
Interesting bit of news on Humberto
sounds phony to me.
Turn two — MRI’s are not the best…i dont know where you got your info from, but MRI’s are cheaper/easier and less invasive then bone/cat scans and so most dr’s will order MRI’s first.
last year Andy went 6-0 in August
Poor Melky….perhaps he should walk around with a paperbag on his head
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Carl Pavano is back. Or at least in Trenton.
The oft-injured (or is it always-injured?) Yankees’ starting pitcher will make a rehab start in Trenton on Thursday against the Akron Aeros, the Indians’ Double-A team.
From the you-can’t-make-this-stuff-up department: Thursday is Horizon Blue Cross Blue Shield of New Jersey Night; there will be health screenings available during the game.
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde.....n_tre.html
Now that is freaky.
^ Hahaha awesome, I’m glad to see Pollyanna back posting. Fist Banging Mania!
Ah I should have known randy would come back to say “hah told you so!”
Unfortunately you are not remembering something. After the 28 pitch outing he went into the bullpen and threw pitches to get up to around 50.
seriously, all the bickering over the damn bold names/fake websites is far more annoying than the bold names themselves…….
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....NHeadlines
If you read that article and take what Girardi said, unless he was reading from a cue card, sounds like the optimism is legitimate:
“I think we’re all hopeful,” Girardi said. “I hope we don’t miss him for very long. But you think of a guy of Joba’s caliber and you know he’s going to miss a start, that doesn’t mean the guy who replaces him can’t pitch well.”
Girardi said the 22-year-old right-hander would probably miss his next turn in the rotation, which is scheduled for Saturday. Anything longer would be a setback for the injury-riddled Yankees pitching staff.
I read that as “We got back test results that were optimistic. We are sending him to get confirmation with Andrews to cover our asses so we don’t look like we are rushing him back out there. If Columbia Presbyterian says it isn’t a serious shoulder injury, and Andrews says it isn’t a serious shoulder injury, then it likely isn’t.”
That said, I bet we don’t see Joba pitch until September callups, at the earliest.
“i dont know where you got your info from, but MRI’s are cheaper/easier and less invasive then bone/cat scans and so most dr’s will order MRI’s first.”
i work in a cancer hospital.
bone and nuclear medicine scans are definately the most accurate, but like you said the most costly.
CT’s for soft tissue, MRI’s for bone.
XRays get more cloudy with swelling and inflammation than any of the scans above combined.
i agree that MRIs are the least invasive, because with CT’s you have to receive oral and IV contrast in most cases… but the best picture a MD can get is a combo of both, not one or the other.
Oh they’ve actually called IPK up? Hmmm.
please god let kennedy start on saturday please!
“Post whoring” That’s hysterical! Something you would hear in a Seinfeld episode.
Jerry – “Hi Elaine.”
Elaine – “Hi Jerry.”
Jerry – “Why did you break up with Puddy again, I thought things were going so well between you two.”
Elaine – “I caught him posting to Pete Abraham’s site last night. His name was in bold”
Jerry – “So”.
Elaine – “You don’t understand, he doesn’t have a blog”
Jerry – “You mean?…..”
Elaine – “Yes, he’s a post whore.”
“Carl Pavano is back. Or at least in Trenton.”
That’s ok, just keep him far away from New York.
Hey, Marlins, got a pitcher for ya…
IPK back to prove his arm is bigger than his mouth.
LOL@Pollyanna. Where have you been?
Clemens fist pounding has been missed.
Speaking of missed. I noticed that Anaconda stuck his head in sometime early this morning. He’s another one I’ve missed around here.
“IPK back to prove his arm is bigger than his mouth”
did Ian say something, we’re not aware of?
Oh no.. i really abused the bolding things, by doing that, didnt I?
My bad.
thats better — a combo of both…thats not what you said earlier…MRI’s sometimes miss, as they did with me and with some of my athletes. I can tell you two horror stories of professional athletes, who i treated, complained of pain, but MRI’s never showed a thing, luckily we had a dr who was thorough and decided to use bone/cat scans and revealed that both needed surgery.
If Seattle can hit this Texas pitcher, than we sure as heck should.
I know this is late, but…
My brother once broke his hand in gym class. He didn’t actually realize anything was wrong until about two periods later or so when the pain didn’t go away.
Ack. I was just flicking through EI Channels looking for the game and a mystery was revealed.
I just saw what Hawk Harrelson looks like.
And he was everything I thought he’d be.
enough about MRI’s. x rays and injuries…. its a new day and Andy is about to make up for his last outing….
Let’s GO YANKEES
TurnTwo, aren’t MRIs for muscles? X-Rays are for bones adn CT Scans are for like soft tissue like you said.
Split with Angels.
Swept by Rangers.
What a team.
Why does everyone feel like they have to get a prediction down in writing on Joba?
“IPK back to prove his arm is bigger than his mouth.”
This issue was addressed earlier today, I believe.
In short, you’re wrong about him having a big mouth.
“Im going to make these guys look stupid once again” IPK
yeah, our doctors often diagnose thru a combo of scans, as you would hope with the severity of our patients’ conditions.
what kind of medicine do you practice?
i am always amazed at the images that PET/CT machines can portray.
Me: “Hey Marlins, got a pitcher for ya…”
Marlins: “No thanks, we had that bum before. Some chump took him off our hands for 50 mill. Imagine that, 50 mill. for that waste of a roster space. Boy, who ever did that deal should be hung up by his toenails.”
Me: “UHHH.”
Graziano’s article is dead on about us not missing too much if Joba were down for the season and having fill-ins for his remaining 10 or so starts.
However, what is not addressed in the article is the postseason. If we were to make the PS, Joba would be a big part of our success. You need 3 very good starters and good relief.
Oh no, what if someone actually emails Pollyanna using my inadvertant bolded link. Thats sure to play havoc with the glad game playing.
Here is a question to ponder. Is there a pitcher that throws the way JOba does that doesnt have something show up on an MRI?? I would think any pitcher for that matter based on the mehcanics of how they throw is going to show something on an MRI that is notnormal.
To me the question is how abnormal it is compared to others.
well we are sure to make this guy look like a cy young candidate — he only has 4 k’s on the season…how many will he have against us?
34hughes
August 5th, 2008 at 8:04 pm
“Im going to make these guys look stupid once again†IPK
This is coming from someone who is such a fan of Phil Hughes he’s not even aware he’s changed numbers from #34?
Okie dokie.
If I have to hear “well Harrison had good stuff tonight” from a Yankee in the post-game ill laugh
Wow, Johnny, that was a horrible AB.
“Before his first game with Scranton last week, I-Ken told his wife that he was going to go out there and “make them look stupid,” presumably implying that he was going to prove to the Yanks that he does indeed still possess all the talent scouts insisted he had.”
He then returned to get abused and eventually injured himself. That is what I meant by big mouth.
who just k’ed on 3 pitches?
4 k’s? Is that from piching a whole season???
…Ok, Derek’s may have been worse.
4 pitches 2 outs
“TurnTwo, aren’t MRIs for muscles? X-Rays are for bones adn CT Scans are for like soft tissue like you said.”
yeah…. i often see MRIs used, like i said earlier, for bone and connective tissues around joints.
that would include knees, shoulders, ankles, etc…
CTs for soft tissue, like lungs, stomach and intestinal tract, liver, etc.
Last night, I had the YES broadcast. Tonight, I’ve got these Texas bums.
“Imagine that, 50 mill.”
Sounds like some idiot signed Pavano for 10 million more than Cashman did…
gayle good point…the MRI is sure to show something in a pitcher’s shoulder…just like it would show some trauma in a catcher’s knee’s…
Turntwo: sports medicine/athletic training/physical therapy
Holy crap, Joba is going to Birmingham and the Yankees are getting no-hit. Things are looking dire.
I wish we could wave a magic Wandy and make it all go away, but only the Astros can do that.
Very weak AB. Hope it’s not a sign of things to come.
I believe SJ and CB cleared that up earlier, Al. It was quite interesting to read.
“If I have to hear “well Harrison had good stuff tonight†from a Yankee in the post-game ill laugh.”
Well, he did, didn’t he???
When I had stomach problems, I had a CT scan.
I am out for the night not even gonna watch I got old Sopranos on dvd I’ll check that out.
“Everything has its wonders, even darkness and silence, and I learn, whatever state I may be in, therein to be content.”
wind is ridiculous today…. anything in the air to right has a shot
I love how the announcers from bad teams talk about how much work the Yankees have to do. How about being concerned about what your crappy organization has to do to win. Losers!
“He then returned to get abused and eventually injured himself. That is what I meant by big mouth.”
Kennedy wasn’t referring to the Yankees, he was talking about the minor leaguers he was facing in the game.
well that was a wasted offensive inning…i dont understand why jeter swings at the first pitch…he drives me nuts. In this heat make this guy throw you the kitchen sink before you swing.
Al, I believe that comment was about the AAA hitters, not the Yankees. He said something to the effect of I just woke up feeling like I was going to make these guys look stupid today. Again, talking about the batters, not the Yankees.
And his last game or two before he got hurt (counting the one he got hurt), I thought I remembered him pitching well, or at least ok.. not abused at least.
I have them too. I’m not impressed already.
The Yankees have work to do in winning the division. Well yes, but they’re 5.5 games behind – you’re commentating for a team that is 12 games out last time I looked. So its all relative, isn’t it Texas Rangers commentators?
that was the most pathetic inning i have seen.
MLB.TV SUCKS
So i’m stuck with Gameday Audio…I don’t really mind.
Nice to see we’re taking lots of pitches.
i know he changed his number idiot
but can comeback to it
nick have you walked your dog yet?
when I was younger I has a frontal lobotomy…or was it a bottle in front of me.
Haha, should have known I was the only one whose jaw dropped when they were going on about that.
Kinsler is a big first ball swinging guy.
“Sounds like some idiot signed Pavano for 10 million more than Cashman did…”
Well, what’s an extra 10 mill anyway? Especially when it comes to such a tremendous signing by our astute scouting dept.
J: It could have been worse.
It could have been like Harden did a few weeks ago, where he struck out the side.
On nine pitches.
Hey, Michelle, are you doctor? Is that why you send people to Andrews? Or are you a player agent?
Phil changed is number back to 65. Marte is wearing number 34 with Phil’s blessing.
Al from BK – please stop posting… i can’t take the negativity and stupidity
Kennedy was referring to the batters he was about to face in AAA, not the Yanks organization
“that was the most pathetic inning i have seen.”
you must never watch baseball then
*wasn’t
damon fighting the sun, are the yankees too poor to provide their outfielders with sun glasses?
why do the yankees never beat people who have era’s over 4 ?
If I’m the Yankees, I’d look at the Wild Card. I know they always say they want to win the division, but the Rays are looking to get David Price and Rocco Baldelli soon, and will be hard to beat. I think the Yanks need to be realistic.
“You guys are so bleeping funny. You act like someone died. Joba, Jorge, and Wang aren’t the only guys on the team. You still have a 25-man roster to finish the last 1/3 of the season. Anything can happen. Too f’in funny.”
I’m with you on this Mel, for the record.
Does Joba make the rotation stronger? Yep.
Does losing Joba for any period of time spell the end of the Yankees season? Nope.
great AB by the Captn. He literally goes days not hitting the ball hard out of the infield..
he is not haveing a good yr. I think this may be his worse yr. ever at 34 that is not a good sign.
kill: michelle has previously stated that she works in sports medicine.
The dog is not due to be walked for a couple hours. Are you hinting that I shouldn’t wait ’til a crucial time in the game to do it?
i work in sports medicine/physical therapy and i used to be an athletic trainer for a minor league baseball team and an arena football team.
I don’t know what replay this guy was looking at, but I did not see that ball hit Kinsler. Maybe they have special TVs down in Texas.
stuart –
Care to guess what Jeter’s average is this year swinging at the first pitch?
AH, thanks, Rebecca. Did she specify? BTW, no text messages this year, Rebecca? I feel so forlorn as a consequence.
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You’re right, 28 to 62 made no sense. However he went 23, 35, 40, 28, 62. Suddenly throwing 40 and then throwing 62 pitches doesn’t look so bad now does it? Also, the 28 game was the game in B-More where I believe he threw 15 to 20 more pitches in the bullpen if I’m not mistaken. So he really went from 40 to 43/48 to 62. Not really that crazy.
AROD jinxed Jeter when he said DJ would have any MVP-type year. I think Alex knew what he was doing.
hughes blessing has not helped marte its the hughes curse
actually nick i was hinting that you need to get a doggy door.
Is that true that sexson is the tallest player in yankees history? we had tony clark and randy johnson. I thought randy was like 6’10″
Is Michelle a physician in Sports Medicine or a rehabilitation specialist?
When I call my uncle, who is an orthopedist, he tells I’m completely meshuggah to be worried about some guy I dont even know– class Bronx’s Tale response– and he hangs up on me.
From Rotoworld:
The Yankees will call up Ian Kennedy to start Saturday in place of Joba Chamberlain, sources told Suzyn Waldman of WCBS.
Kennedy would likely have a chance of sticking in the rotation once Chamberlain returns, but he’ll have to perform well. AL-only leaguers won’t want him active right away.
http://rotoworld.com/Content/p.....38;id=4455
kennedy is finally going to get his second shot. i hope he succeeds this time.
I liked Josh Hamilton during the ASG. During this series, not so much!
kill: New phone, I don’t have your number any more.
Andy.
Control.
” mml..mmmf.umph…lllFgnhm…mmmph ” ER’s latest statements now muffled by the fact that his head is completely up his @$$ !
a bad call by an ump leads to two runs
Pettite needs to challenge these hitters, because THAT is what happens when you nitpick.
wow, just wow…i think andy got squeezed on the 2-2 pitch — but here we go…
Or, you know, give up a two run bomb.
Ugh
andy wanted a a couple of those pitches that would have punched out Hamilton
great start for the yanks.. walk a guy for no reason.. 0 and 2 and then try to get a good hitter to swing at a bouncer.. great start for pettitte..
man doesn’t Jeter look like Young at the plate with his discipline etc.
this team is pathetic.. if they do not score 6 runs off this clown the ysuck….
This ballpark is ridiculous. None of these balls even come close to getting over the fence in any other ballpark in the major leagues.
Young’s home run, Byrd’s grand slam, Hamilton’s home run. In Yankee Stadium, all of those are lazy fly balls or easy line drives to put away.
No wonder the Rangers stats are so inflated at home and are awful on the road. They’re not a good hitting team one bit, they’re lucky their ballpark turns easy outs into home runs.
Times up stuart – Jete hits .311 when he swings at the first pitch.
kill – scroll up and you’ll see what i do…
hmmmmmm..first inning jitters again for Andy.
I’m not a regular contributor to the blog but i’ve been thinking about it all day and have two opinions to toss into the ring about Joba and his injury:
1. If Joba is somehow hurt, the world will go on, the Yankees will play the games, we’ll all watch them, and Joba will begin to fix whatever went wrong.
2. The Yankees may not be perfectly equipped to handle an injury to the second #1 of their staff in one season but i’d say we have a better chance than most at overcoming the adversity. With Mussina pitching like a front end guy and Pettite being the type of guy who steps up when you need him most I think they’ll win the big games. I’d put Andy against Beckett in game 1 every time this year. He reminds me of the Toby Keith song “I ain’t as good as I once was but i’m as good once as I ever was.” Despite the 2 run homer lol. On top of that I have faith that Phil Hughes is going to come back and be a beast before September. (IE a start or MAYBE 2 in August.)
Conclusion? The Yankees will fight their way into the playoffs despite the fact that we can’t see how. “Sometimes life is like the highway at night. Your headlights only show you the 20 yards in front of you but you know you’re going to get where you need to be.”
Absolutely great. Just what we needed from our veteran pitcher.
He may have gotten squeezed, but he’s starting to remind me of Mussina from last year, and not challenging the hitters. Each of his 1ball, 2strike pitches have been nowhere near the plate to get the batters to offer a swing. and then on that 2-2 pitch, its FAT. He’s getting smacked.
Way to go Andy!
Good veteran presence to snap us out of this.
Some of these strike calls.. *exasperated look*
OMG, this guy is delusional. He thinks that the Rangers are going to catch LAA? Wow. That heat plays tricks with people’s minds.
well this sucks.
Everybody hitting it hard right now.
Game over so fast today
michelle, I live on the 7th floor of my building, I’m not sure a doggy door would work. Maybe a basket and a really, really long leash…
Andy’s got no control, again.
Why does it even matter? Without Joba or Wang they can’t win a playoff series anyway.
Well…with the amount of pitches he’s thrown, we might be seeing dan giese pitch tonight, instead of friday.
Michelle: If no one has said it already, Sexson is 6’8 and Johnson is 6’10. Sexson is the tallest position player, but Johnson is the tallest player in Yankees history.
andy has lost the plate
ok ken singleton said that richie sexson is the tallest player to play for the yankees…i just looked it up
Randy Johnson is 6’10″
I guess everyone forgot that Texas is 2 games behind us.
“I think the Yanks need to be realistic.”
They don’t decide to go for the Wild Card or Division, they try to win every game they play. Maybe IF it comes down to a time where they’ve clinched the wild card, but still have a shot at the division, then they can decide if it’s worth going for the division versus getting guys some rest.
Right now, they just worry about winning games and see where things shake out over the next couple months.
CLE leading TB 3-1.
“Why does it even matter? Without Joba or Wang they can’t win a playoff series anyway.”
That’s the spirit!
I dislike Texas more and more
“Why does it even matter? Without Joba or Wang they can’t win a playoff series anyway.”
i really, really wish i could argue this.
“When I call my uncle, who is an orthopedist, he tells I’m completely meshuggah to be worried about some guy I dont even know– class Bronx’s Tale response– and he hangs up on me.”
Nobody cares kid.
This game is like a funeral for our season. The 10 game road trip that will bury us.
Michelle B.
He said tallest position player.
So many runs have scored after walks these past few days. Our pitchers have got to limit those.
“I guess everyone forgot that Texas is 2 games behind us.”
For the Wild Card? I didn’t realize that. I thought DET was right behind us. I don’t watch the Wild Card standings on a day to day basis; only the regular standings.
SEASON it OVer!!
oh tallest position player, i didnt hear that… and tony clark is 6’7″
once when I was mowing my lawn I hit a nail and it shot into my calf like a corkscrew. I never pitched again.
Is there any chance the hurricane will effect the game tonight – preferably before the end of the 5th inning?
I wonder if Texas ownership told them to plunk A-Rod. LOL!
“michelle, I live on the 7th floor of my building, I’m not sure a doggy door would work. Maybe a basket and a really, really long leash…”
Nick,
This is why I love my cat.
Boston and TB doing all they can to GIVE us the division and we do this the past 10 days.
What a complete joke.
Michelle, if you wouldn’t mind enlightening me, I’d appreciate it. I’m always curious and impressed by the tremendous professional, political, class, and racial diversity this blog attracts.
It reinforces my love for baseball.
BTW, I’d love to know why Jeter has reverted to his impatient younger self, circa 1997. I can’t condemn him for an off-season. What bothers me is how little plate discipline he’s excercised.
I am so glad that YES doesn’t have some idiot trolling through the stands talking to people.
come on sexy X
Let’s see if this guy can be made to look like a Cy Young award winner…as per usual with the Yankees.
“Nobody cares kid.”
LMAO – I really sense the blog community pulling together in these difficult times!
kill: do you know who gene monahan is?
well i see that cy young is on the mound today.
Doesn’t it seem like Pettitte gets hurt a lot with two outs and none on?
hughes blessing has not been go to marte with 34 its the hughes curse
wow did cano actually take three pitches. must be a record
Magnet Ray…are you saying it’s more fun to hang a cat out the 7th story than a dog?
kennedy & girardi, part II
I believe the first time around, Kennedy’s lack of urgency, is what p*issed off Girardi.
game ain’t over yet. This lineup will pull through.
We love Arod.
If you dislike Texas you are going to hate Minnesota and Anaheim. You know. Two actual good teams with real pitching.
It’s allright, we’re facing Randy Johnson in his prime tonight, not expecting the offense to show up or anything.
why do you steal 3-0?
Did Cano just walk? Holy cow! Of course, the Big Sexy Whiff is up next.
Joe Girardi: “A lot of guys like to go visit Dr. Andrews.”
He said it like he was talking about a trip to see Santa at the shopping mall.
Question, what is the deadline for the Yanks to declare whether they’re going for the wild card or the division? Is it still Sept. 1?
“game ain’t over yet. This lineup will pull through.”
Because it’s been great all season??
OK Sexson – time to earn your minimum wage!
Why doesn’t AROD steal…MORE???If he never gets thrown out and gets great jumps, send him more. It’s not that hard to figure out.
Guy’s calling pretty low strikes.
trisha – I am a Sidney supporter. August 5th, 2008 at 8:32 pm
We love Arod.
You have loved Igawa, Farnsworth and Sidney Ponson. You hze no credibility as a fan.
Does anyone know the analysis on why Sexson just can’t put a ball in play? What the hell happened to this guy?
“why do you steal 3-0?”
Like there is 0% chance that Robbie will ground into a DP?
I forgot that the Big Sexy had charged the mound against Texas.
““Nobody cares kid.â€
LMAO – I really sense the blog community pulling together in these difficult times!”
TK,
That’s what Sonny told Cologero(sp) when C was upset because the Mick was crying. I was feeding off of Kill Shills Bx Tale reference. Didn’t mean anything by it.
The issue with this team is that they never seem to rebound well after a loss or any sort of bad news.
Championship teams can do that.
And Richie, that was really not cool.
“This ballpark is ridiculous. None of these balls even come close to getting over the fence in any other ballpark in the major leagues”
kinda like camden yards.
well we also do not have luck on our side.
That is a perfect example of this season.
TB takes the lead. 4-3 Boo
We all knew the pitching would come back to earth after the great July. We just didn’t expect it to be this bad. And now now Joba.
“If you dislike Texas you are going to hate Minnesota and Anaheim. You know. Two actual good teams with real pitching.”
I believe they split a series with Angels and swept the Twins.
Season is oVer!
Well, at least he put the ball in play.
Richie hit that hard. Not much you could do about that. The good news is that they’re getting stuff done against the kid.
This season has been different from the others where they would always be totally handcuffed by pitchers they haven’t seen before. Not quite the case any more.
A good offense?
We start Richie Sexson!!!!
Man, we stink.
Obviously someone up there has something against the yankees.
wow…the big sexy almost got a hit….instead it will go down in history as a DP
“Magnet Ray…are you saying it’s more fun to hang a cat out the 7th story than a dog?”
Very funny. But no, cats have no need to be walked is what I was getting at.
Bad sexy
Rebecca,
I asked you this before, but would you please NOT use religious names/terms as exclamatories? It’s offensive to a lot of people.
Thanks very much!
Good job A-Rod.
“You have loved Igawa, Farnsworth and Sidney Ponson. You hze no credibility as a fan.”
As opposed to someone who changes names each time they say that?
Altho it seems Sexson is going to try his best to prove me wrong.
the rays dont have a good lineup. most of their hitters are at .260 or below. their picthing has been great and thats why they are still hanging on. they play the yanks and the sox more than 10 times in september. thats when we will know if they are for real.
Season’s been over since Wang went down
Wow
Could this team’s luck be any worse?
Then on top of that, there’s also the fact that Sexson sucks. I think its time to end the experiment, or at least don’t play him instead of Giambi, who was finally starting to hit, today.
gotcha Ray – I haven’t seen that movie in ages.
Wow, zero hits against Mr. Harrison. My guitar is gently weeping.
Andy is awful
oy vey andy
Wow….just wow. Pettite looks ridiculously hittable. Just fat pitches.
Richie Sexson. The Big Un-Sexy.
TK – 3-0 isn’t the pitch to steal 2nd base. You wait at least a pitch. Cano isn’t swinging 3-0 so why take a chance getting throw out? If that pitch is a strike and you want to start something 3-1 then go for it, that can keep you out of the double play AND open up a hole for Cano.
Tough playing without a centerfielder.
Of course, Michelle. I think Monahan was the Yankees’ trainer when I was watching the Yankees in the 1970s.
Are you a trainer for a professional sports franchise?
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HEY SJ44 OR CB— THIS FOR YOU!
1) What’s up with Humberto Sanchez? Why are the Yankees playing games with his injury clock? Is his elbow hurting him or not? Any clue?
2) What’s the likelihood of the Yankees promoting Aceves, Kontos or Coke?
I thought August was supposed to be Andy’s good month?
The season is not over. This is a work in progress. The team is getting better with a bright future. The present adversity is temporary, it will pass.
I am very excited about the Yankees future, I hope Cashman stays.
This stadium is a freaking joke. The ball has to be hit weakly on a line to get out in right center and the gaps are ridiculous.
This park is such an unfair advantage for Texas when you add in the 100 degree heat and the hometown umpires.
I think it is safe to say it wasn’t Pudge’s fault for Andy’s last game.
If they were getting the job done, wouldn’t they be in first? This guy talks like Texas is in first place.
Andy. come on man
sorry, Rebecca, I only report the news
Does anyone know what has happened to Andy Pettite? He’s lost the strike zone these past 2 games…and been inconsistent all year. He’s the guy we always used to look to, to stop losing streaks, but he hasn’t been that guy this year. Is this Andy almost..done?
wang – seriously, religious outburts make you feel uncomfortable??
even our defense lets us down now.
ROBBIE CANO…DON’T YA KNOW
It’s the second inning and this already feels like a disaster.
“I believe they split a series with Angels and swept the Twins.”
Split at home and swept at home.
Hey wake up Girardi! THAT IS WHERE YOU BRING THE INFIELD IN, ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR OFFENSE HAS LOOKED HORRIBLE TONIGHT.
If the infield is in like it should have been, that’s a line out to second base and no run scores.
damn…now i have the fricken texas feed
Well that sucks
It would really just make my day if the yankees could score just 1 run this game…Is that too much to ask
Cano comes through again.
The Yanks are damned. I’m sorry to say. There is nothing going right for this team right now, and its representative of this team, all year. They’ll get down early…and they’ll want to get out of the heat. Sorry…I’m depressed.
Micfhelle, he said Sexson was the tallest “Position player” in history. Right now, Jon Rauch is the tallest pitcher/player in history.
Wow. Bad bounces, bad hops, bad pitching…
Michelle — sure profanity is low-class. Pete’s asked us to watch our language on this family site and obviously that includes profanity. What’s the problem with using better language?
the pitching staff is a wreck right now. anyone that thinks that giese or kennedy will save this staff is living a dream.
KS –
Coke just got promoted to SWB and pitched well last night – Chad Jenning’s blog has a very good write-up on it.
They say he’s going to be in the SWB the rest of the year – but things change.
What a joke. Pretty pathetic team.
We needed that.
Now we need a hit. For @#$@#$ sake, this guy has a 7.40 ERA!
Molina – Christian – Damon
Will need a two out rally.
84 win season. Won’t be enough to make it.
The Yankees aren’t damned. They’re just not good enough right now.
Well that was nice at least, but 3 runs feel like 10 right now.
wang i was joking — sorry i need to hit the sarcasm button sometimes
ok hopefully that settles down Andy and he can give us some innings
Alright, let’s work on getting a hit at least off of this dude. Maybe..a run or 2 will follow
“What’s the problem with using better language?”
watch some of these games and you’ll find out.
Matt,
Did you have a problem with Nady’s HR last night? That’s an out in Yankee Stadium.
Perhaps you didn’t get the memo, the Yankees are also playing in the same ballpark. Its not illegal for them to score runs against the worst pitching staff in the AL.
A pitching staff I might add, that has a new pitching and bullpen coach since Sunday.
Stop whining about the ballpark. You sound like a damn Red Sox fan.
Its not the ballpark. Pettitte is pitching like crap.
How was the ballpark the other night when Pettitte gave up 9 runs to the Angels at the Stadium? Was Yankee Stadium to blame when he gave up 2, 3 run HR’s in one inning?
You make good pitches, you get outs, regardless of where you play.
KS,
1. Yes. They want him to spend more time in the GCL and he needs a new injury to re-start his rehab clock.
2. No chance on Kontos. He’s still in AA. Coke could be a September callup when rosters expand for bullpen work. Not sure re: Aceves. I think he needs to do a little better in AAA before they call him up.
“What’s the problem with using better language?”
Am I missing something? I didn’t see Rebecca curse.
Rebecca
Time to change your moniker; I don’t see much optimism in your last few posts.
well he had a 7.4 era coming in, but he might leave with a 5.0 era
Why Matt is it only hot when the yanks bat? DO they move in the fences when the Rangers get up?
So far so bad.. Arod made it but stealing on a 3 and 0 count!!!I dislike that play a lot.
Cano being Cano on the fielding play…
Sexson hit it hard what can you do, bad teams like the ynaks do not make any breaks….
if Christian has a bad game tonight, can’t wait to see the posts tommorrow…
F%^&
I have to mute these texas mediots. No sound at all is better than these guys.
Wow…snake-bitten. This game does not look promising.
Okay, forget a run…how about a hit?
Michelle — hard to communicate sarcasm via email, as we’ve seen repeatedly when reading some of the posts after Pete’s VERY sarcastic comments — which I personally enjoy.
This team was doomed the moment Wang got hurt. Joba wasn’t supposed to be our ace.
Doesn’t help that they can’t score runs.
well they are hitting it on the screws here…soo we should come through around the 5th inning or so, just in time for andy to give up a 6 more runs.
Thata boy Christian, put yourself in an 0-1 count as fast as possible
In a pre-game meeting, the team decided they will not start seriously competing until the 5th inning.
VRSCE: Sorry, I’m just really stressed right now.
And yay! a hit!
Which will happen first, a J. Christian homer or a Carl Pavano mlb win?
Thank God, we got a hit.
On the bright side of losing?
We get to enjoy SJ44 rip apart the team.
who’s faster: christian or gardner?
Damaso Proctor is closing tonight. No worries.
Now you expect Christian to hit home runs?? Unreal.
“I believe they split a series with Angels and swept the Twins.â€
Split at home and swept at home.
That doesn’t make the slightest bit of difference – especially given the Angels road record.
The Metrodome is a piece of crap stadium and the Yankees manage to win there often.
I’m smelling a run or two!
TK: Homer.
Vinny: Brett, but JC knows how to make things happen.
Rebecca
I hope you are not the canary in the coal mine.
The Yankees will win this game,count on it.
who’s faster: christian or gardner?
who cares? they both cant hit a lick
Maybe Christian can steal all the way to home!
I’m calling it first…DJ…DP
Setting up nicely for a devastating 6-4-3.
DP DEREK…is up
Wow, they mentioned the DPs. They must frequent this blog.
i must’ve missed the cursing/religious outburst.
LETS GO JETE!!
Who is the biggest jerk on the blog ? Would that be ER or ER ? Hmmmm…let me think ?
Early report is the team will fine Christian $500 for that single, and another $500 for the stolen base.
Captain DP.
Please no DP
Please no DP
Please no DP
ok I cal a hr for DJ
damn texas knows jeters weakness…but seriously in my opinion Jeter has been the most underachieving Yankee this year. please start carrying us
Cal=call
Hahaha…funny that the first 4 comments that came up are about DJ’s DPs. No longer the clutch hitter.
Random question:
Does anyone know what’s up with the brace Christian put on his wrist? It is just a precautionary measure or does he have some sort of wrist problem that he’s worried about?
(And does he always wear the brace and this is just the first time I’ve noticed it?)
captian dp.
This is getting out of hand with Jeter.
Why is our team so pathetic against no-name-high-ERA-pitchers!!?
DP master strikes again JETER U SUCK
Jeter GIDP.. whats new
WOW!!!! All of this board discord, and I’m not involved. I feel as though I’m shirking my duties.
Unbelievable. He has to be moved in the lineup, it’s getting crazy.
Amazing.
You guys don’t get my point. These are very different offensive teams.
The Rangers are a team of SLUGGERS, who swing for the fences. All you have to do is put the ball in the air here and it’s a home run.
The Yankees are NOT a team of sluggers, so no, it is not as easy for them to score here. They only have 1, maybe 2 guys who hit the ball out of the ballpark. The entire Rangers lineup swings for the fences.
Half our lineup is weak singles hitters like Jeter. It’s very hard to win when the other team just has to hit a lazy fly ball and it’s a home run.
interesting development to end that inning
This is actually becoming something of a concern. I wonder if Jeter is worried about it. He should be. How many rallies is he going to kill with the DP ball?
…
Okay, now Derek’s just hurting the team.
Please don’t GIDP
By the grey beard of Odin, can’t we catch a break?!??!?
Also, I missed Rebecca’s sacrilegious post, what on earth did she say?
wow, just wow – does this guy ever think about a walk or running the count a bit
At a certain point…does someone need to start asking the question “Why are you swinging at crap and hitting into double-plays that kill every rally?”
my god, I’ve never seen Jeter perform this poorly before.
OMFG !
The Capn’!!!!!!!!!
Just call me GIDP.
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
THE KID OBVIOUSLY HAS CONTROL ISSUES AND JETER SWINGS 1-0 ON A LOW AND OUTSIDE PITCH AND PULLS IT.
HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAH. YOU CAN’T MAKE THIS STUFF UP.
hang head in shame….Charlie Brown type humiliation
SIt him down
“Actually one of the most calming feelings, believe it or not, is knowing that I don’t have a clue about what’s going on”
Trisha, your philosophy is intriguing.
“27″,
Try to keep the blog names down to under 20 tonight.
No sense going undercover to stalk me.
Just keep one name and stalk me. You don’t have to go undercover.
Don’t like the posts? Don’t read’em.
Here’s a tip twerp. You ain’t changin’ what I write.
If you have problems understanding the above sentence, have mommy read it to you so you don’t waste anymore time writing the same stuff to me every night.
Wow, he just has to be injured.
Just has to be.
This game is killing me, Smalls.
time for an update brandon—sheesh—-this series is getting hard to take
Cap’n GIDP
jeter blows.
and will somebody kill that STUPID EDGE commercial?!?!
It’s sad that I call a double play every time Jeter is at-bat with a runner on. This is getting a bit ridiculous.
Jesus Christ, I know he’s the Captain and all, but he’s been a liability all freakin’ season… can we please move him down to 6th or something already? Somewhere where he can’t GIDP anymore fer cripes’ sake???
thats his 18th dp, and ive seen all of them now.
Jeter the rally killer strikes again.
This is deplorable. Ridiculous. The sad part is I was hoping Damon wouldnt walk because I knew this would happen.
“Does anyone know what’s up with the brace Christian put on his wrist?”
Protect the hand and wrist from jamming when sliding.
I don’t know how m many
minaya finds gems like tatis.
cashman finds wastes like sexson, betemit, christian, etc
Frankly, I’m tired of everyone (i.e. media) giving Jeter a pass, due to his past resume. Frankly, he is a liability now. If his hand is hurt, SIT DOWN. He is part of the problem now, no longer part of the solution.
they cant handle the change up here
Again — not cursed, just no damn good.
Whoever that 1st basemen was he made a long fricken stretch
That was nice
It’s play’s like that that we could look back on and see why we didn’t win.
how many DP’s for the Captain this year now? 19 or so.
Can he play any worse offensively? Is it possible? I know he is not as bad a Beroa on the dodgers or Lugo on the sux but really can the guy hit the ball hard to the outfield in our lifetime..
Tonight we are looking at a new season low so far in performance.. so far so bad…
If I was not such an obsessed Yankee fan how can anyone watch this???
This in unbelievable. Jeter cannot do anything right this year. Its just a shame.
Captain GIDP.
Amazing.
So you guys still think Pettitte should come back? Please, the guy is over the hill. He was a great pitcher and gave the Yanks many great years, but after this season (and I mean regular season, because this team ain’t making the playoffs) he should hang em up.
jeter is not a pateient hitter. i read an article in which it said he could hit 20-30 hrs a year, but he did not have the patience for it.
Has Jeter had a good swing since last September? What happened to the MVP caliber year that Arod predicted for him in Spring training?
(AP) Damon Released After Walk
Arlington – The New York Yankees have released Johnny Damon after an ill-advised walk in the 3rd inning of today’s Rangers-Yankees game. Conversely, they have promoted Jeter from living legend to immortal deity after his creative 3rd-to-1st double play.
This team looks like its teetering on the edge of a 5-6 game losing streak now.
The more we stink, the more SJ44 can rant and rave and remind us all what we need.
And on top of it the Rangers are USED TO THE HEAT. The Yankees are coming from 75-80 degree weather to 100 + . It’s very hard to play in this heat when you’re not used to it.
So Texas has an advantage in this ballpark, and you cannot deny that. They are used to the heat- advantage 1. They have guys who swing for the fences and you barely have to get any of it for a home run- advantage 2. And they have ridiculous, horrible home town umpires- advantage 3.
The Rangers do not win last night if you take out these advantages. It was very obvious. The blown call in the 5th cost the Yankees tremendously because all you have to do is flick a ball and it’s a home run as we saw. Any extra baserunners that are given to a team in this ballpark can lose you a game. And on top of that, the walk off grand slam and Young’s 3-R HR- no way they’re a HR in any other ballpark. That was 7 of the 9 runs that do not score without the home run.
The Yankees home runs were crushed. They would have been out of any ballpark in the majors. That’s the difference. The Rangers are just barely clearing the fences with lazy fly balls.
What we need is a rally squirrel !
SJ, you know better. just ignore.
“Wow, he just has to be injured. Just has to be.”
Still from when he got hit on the hand? I would have thought that would be healed by now.
If he’s got an injury, I think it’s a leg injury. If you watch him after he runs threw a few bases, he stops, bends down and grabs his thigh. I think I’m on to something….
the Yankees walk a batter – the batter scores
the Yankees walk – they find a double-play
Last year Captain GIDP hit into 21 ( career high ) already has 18, and on pace for at least 26 ( NEW career high )….you ROCK Jeter ! All the more reason to swing at pitches early in the count, right EINSTEIN ????
Two potential big innings immediately destroyed by the double play. It is painful to watch Harrison put 0′s considering the fact that he is nowhere near the plate and when he is, his pitches are flat out meatballs.
Agree, El Guapo. Pettitte is way too expensive to bring back next year. I believe he’s making ~$16M this year. Correct me if I’m wrong.
Looks like Petitte cannot use Pudge as the excuse anymore.
Jeter is kiddung right?
Why not put a hit and run on? or have Jeter bunt? Sexsons ball was hit on the nose cant complain about that
Never would I have thought that I’d say resign Mussina to a one-year deal, and let Pettite retire, but I’m saying it now. Additionally, Mark in Tampa…I mentioned above that AROD knew what he was doing when he predicted an MVP year…he was jinxing him.
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/.....38;minpa=0
Nady, Giambi, Arod, Sexson and Abreu aren’t sluggers? Cano and Damon have no power? Abreu has more HR’s since the ASB than Josh Hamilton.
The difference is Matt, the Rangers are a good hitting team and the Yankees are not.
The ballpark doesn’t have anything to do with it.
The Yankees are facing the worst pitching staff in the AL. You really think the ballpark is holding them back?
If so, how was yesterday the first game the Yankees lost in Texas in 3 years? In the past, they CRUSHED the ball in this ballpark.
SJ44, so what’s the deal then with Humberto Sanchez? Why is his recovery taking so long?
I assume there’s no chance of seeing him this year.
But do the Yankees envision him as a starter or a reliever for the future?
If he doesn’t accumulate any innings in 2008, he’s not likely to start next year either, is he?
Do the Yankees still have high hopes for him or what?
At least captain Varitek just strikes or pops out almost every at bat instead of being like Jeter and making contact and grounding into DPs. Jeter might have to take the captain Tek approach and start striking out more!
how do you get someone else’s posts in quotes?
“The Rangers are just barely clearing the fences with lazy fly balls.”
Nady’s homer last night was a borderline warning track fly ball in normal circumstances.
alright pettite settled down i think were gonna score right here.
At least when Sexson GIDP’ed it was more a result of bad luck than anything else.
Jeter’s got to be playing hurt, and while I admire grit, he’s too classy to try to play while hurt and end up hurting the team in the process.
I know I haven’t been my usual optimistic self recently–I’ve been under some stress. For example–I’m apparently the only person in my master’s program that doesn’t read Latin, which puts me at a significant disadvantage. So I’m trying to learn the language in the time span of about a month.
So I apologize if it’s coming out in my posts.
That said, it’s only 3-0. This team came back from 5-0 against the Angels.
We can win this.
Wow, nice recovery by Pettite. If he can keep this up, he’ll give us a chance to get back into this one.
If some will persist in saying Jeter is injured, then tell him to sit down and stop killing us.
Copy, paste and put quotes around them.
Nothing brings out the sj44 negative brigade like an early loss
How long will his captainess keep him in the two spot? He’s obviously shown he can’t keep from GIDP’s all year… Wake the hell up Girardi and stop batting him second… so what if he’s not the #2 hitter anymore – how many more GIDP’s does he have to hit into, how many more rallies does he kill before that loyalty pays the ultimate price of losing games? Shouldn’t he have to earn his spot as well as any other player? He obviously hasn’t and is killing the rallies. End rant. We now return you to your regularly scheduled GIDP brought to you be Edge.
Get to work bats and score some runs!
“At least captain Varitek just strikes or pops out almost every at bat instead of being like Jeter and making contact and grounding into DPs”
Jeter is definitely more a team player. GDIP’s help the team batting average.
TurnTwo,
Agreed, I’ll disengage the troll dialogue.
Is it really that complicated Yankees?
GET DEREK JETER OUT OF THE TWO HOLE.
How can you continue to send a guy out there who’s hitting .280 and leads the league in GIDP in the TWO HOLE, one of the most important spots in the lineup, behind the best leadoff guy in baseball?
Jeter being in the two hole has lost us so many games this year. Double plays are a lot worse than simply 2 outs. They demoralize a team and keep a pitcher’s pitch count down. One double play has implications that are further reaching than you’d think.
If not for the double plays, Jeter wouldn’t be hurting us. But he is. So GET HIM OUT OF THERE.
Someone talk mw off the ledge!!! We make great moves, things start coming together and it evaporates before my eyes! How long until we’ve promoted the entire SWB pitching rotation to the big club?!!?!
If you are a lefty with an ERA over 6, you too can be a major leaguer pitcher and shut down the New York Yankees.
Not sure if this has been posted yet, but wow:
http://slidingintohome.blogspo.....pdate.html
“Trisha, your philosophy is intriguing.”
Wade Boggs, you know how parents have certain sayings that they use over and over again and that manage to really make an impact and then stay with you?
One of my dad’s was “Don’t borrow trouble.” So I don’t. It is pointless to worry about the unknown.
“Frankly, I’m tired of everyone (i.e. media) giving Jeter a pass, due to his past resume.”
You’re kidding right? Its been fashionable to pick on Jeter here all year.
well abreu hit a hit, and here comes arod, i wonder whats going to happen.
“cashman finds wastes like sexson, betemit, christian, etc”
Christian, serves a purpose on this team.
you may need to turn your attention to Arod, Jeter, etc.
Matt,
Your complaining is beyond pathetic. As a Yankee fan, I am embarrassed by your posts.
It will be interesting to see what the Yankees do next year about RF. I’m thinking if Nady has a great second half, they will let Abreu walk. I’d like to keep Nady, Abreu, Damon and Matsui, but at least one of them will have to go.
This guy Harrison has little control, and when he does get the ball over the plate…its so hittable. They should be killing him.
BTW, Tommy Hunter, tomorrow’s starter for Texas (with an ERA of 10+) will throw 6 shutout innings. The sports almanac in back to the future 2 told me.
Wow, Tommy Hunter tomorrow with a 10.80 ERA.
Prediction for Hunter’s line:
7.1 IP, 5 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 2 BB, 6 K
“The Rangers do not win last night if you take out these advantages. It was very obvious. The blown call in the 5th cost the Yankees tremendously because all you have to do is flick a ball and it’s a home run as we saw. Any extra baserunners that are given to a team in this ballpark can lose you a game. And on top of that, the walk off grand slam and Young’s 3-R HR- no way they’re a HR in any other ballpark. That was 7 of the 9 runs that do not score without the home run.”
Ok. But what about all of the other games this team has blown inexcusably this season though.
Are you people idiots?
I guess Vlad Guerrero, Joe Mauer, Magglio Ordonez and Jose Rios suck too. They are in the top 10 in GIDP.
When a lot of people are on base before you, you hit into a lot of DPs. It just happens.
Angel..
The media.
KS,
He also had bone chip surgery after his TJ Surgery.
He was never on the radar for this year. They are taking it real slow with him. Probably because he’s recovering from two, rather than one, surgeries.
I have a feeling he’s going to end up being in the bullpen in the future. I think it will be easier for him to get back out of the ‘pen than in a rotation.
“Wake the hell up Girardi and stop batting him second… so what if he’s not the #2 hitter anymore – how many more GIDP’s does he have to hit into, how many more rallies does he kill before that loyalty pays the ultimate price of losing games?”
when he isnt Derek Jeter.
only Torre would embarrass the hell out of an all-time great by moving him down to #8 in the order.
I’m starting to whisper to myself about # 2……By the way was in charge of locking the gate today, many inmates are running loose tonight….Who is 27 anyway….
Stop with the Nady HR nonsense. That was 1 run. The Rangers scored all of their runs on home runs, none of which cleared the fence by more than 10 feet at most.
If they are playing this game at the stadium, the Yankees win it 3 or 4 to NOTHING. NOTHING. That’s the difference.
The Yankees are not a slugging team anymore. Stop with that. When will you guys realize that? They are a doubles hitting team when they are on. They have some power, but nobody on this team other than A-Rod and Giambi hit more than 20 home runs in a season, and Giambi hits .250 and .200 with RISP so his home runs are meaningless usually.
Is Latin hard to learn, Rebecca?
Maybe those Rosetta Stone programs might help? I noticed they had one in Latin.
“If some will persist in saying Jeter is injured, then tell him to sit down and stop killing us.”
Okay, then who plays SS? BeteStrikeOut? I’d rather have a hurt Jeter than him.
Sexson really hurts the yankees by causing Giardi (whose showing hes a moron) to sit Giambi vs lhp
Rebecca-good luck with your masters program. Try not to stress out too much about it. I’m sure you will be fine and good luck.
Dear Yankees-We need some run thingies
ZMAN7777
August 5th, 2008 at 8:57 pm
Agree, El Guapo. Pettitte is way too expensive to bring back next year. I believe he’s making ~$16M this year. Correct me if I’m wrong.
No offense dude, but realisticaly, we’re not paying the salaries, so there’s no reason to worry about it
point of order: did Pettitte say anything to the effect of blaming Pudge for his last performance or was that just speculation in these parts? I was out of town.
Fair enough. I guess I don’t read much media these days, lol.
what about #6 in the order?
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL OH MY GOD
that was worse than the jeter double play. nice job
Nick-I think it was just speculation from the Bellevue crew
This is unreal. We have some seriously, seriously bad karma going on right now.
The DP’s just keep piling up. Good God, what an awful offensive baseball team.
Harrison won’t make it out of this inning.
I wish some of the Yankees batters would start ‘flicking’ some balls over the fences like the Rangers.
Are we trying to hit into the most DP’s in a single game here?
if abreu was on the move there how did he get doubled up?
3rd DP of the game for the Yankees. I never liked DPs.
wow – how is that even possible
SJ.
You have mentioned you’re familiar with the Yankee prospects at Charlesto. What do you think of Jesus Montero? Can he be turn into a first baseman?
Thank you
Like I said, the double play is the most DEMORALIZING offensive play in the game.
Double plays kill you more than just 2 outs. That’s why Jeter is such a killer in the 2 hole.
And they hit into double plays because they keep pulling off outside pitches. Jeter always avoided them because he could hit the ball to all fields, but now he can’t. His bat speed is down, so he can’t get the ball out of the infield on the left side. That’s why he’s a DP machine. His bat speed.
Their best hitter faces a quality lefty in Petitte and homers lefty to lefty.
Our best hitter (oh, and the leagues best hitter) faces a AAA pitcher and GIDP
amazing
So what if Pettitte has settled? He already put us 3 in the hole. For this team, the way they are playing, they might as well be 18 behind.
well, i guess jeter isn’t the only GIDP member today. sigh.
Oh No, A-Rod caught the same bug afflicting Jeter!!
Can we catch a break?
Good old Alexander the Great
“When a lot of people are on base before you, you hit into a lot of DPs. It just happens.”
So you are saying that this year out of all of the years Derek has batted this high up in the order, there are finally people on base in front of him? Um, I don’t think so. Derek is not swinging at the right pitches. There’s no way around it. He’s got 18 already.
SJ – please pay these idiots no mind. I think most people here with half a brain know that you and CB are by far the most informative and rational posters.
As a frequent lurker, most of the time i just do a Ctrl+F for SJ44, read your posts and close the window… other than that i can’t take the stupidity that goes on in here
what is the record for # of dps in a single game?
Abreu was not going, which made no sense. If you go on the first 3-2, why are you not going on the 2nd? He’s obviously going to try to get A-Rod reaching, you have to go on the pitch.
well looks like cano made up for that 3-0 count.
SJ
=Charleston Riverdogs=
How much are we paying the Great ARod again???????
We have him coming through in the clutch for how many years again?????
cano back to his 1st pitch swinging again…ughh this team isnt very fun to watch
What is with the karma, curses, etc.?? Doesn’t anyone believe that this isn’t a matter of fate?? It’s called lousy execution.
Nice at bat by Cano
Sexson – Molina – Christian.
3 More outs wasted and Harrison will have a shutout after 5.
Harrison is the best pitcher since daniel cabrera, who was the best pitcher since paul maholm, who was the best pitcher since…oh i dont know. every other 3rd rate “pitcher” who has made these “professionals” look just stupid.
Yanks can come back.
Can we trade for some more Pirate hitters?
I think X is the only one on this team that knows how to hit right now.
Everyone else are double play machines!!!
rishi i would have to assume 9. one in each inning max
Hey, if you have a 7.00 ERA, almost a 2:1 BB/K ratio, and have never pitched a great game in your ML career, bring on the Yankees!
Yankees: Making bad pitching look good since 2005
OK, so I’ve only watched every game for about the past 30 years, so I admit that my baseball knowledge is somewhat suspect. Nonetheless, I recall hearing once that there is this thing called the “opposite field” and that the individual who bats in the 4th position for the Yankees has a modicum of power and the ability to hit the ball over the fence in that direction. Would it be conceivable to try to hit a pitch on the outer half of the plate toward right field? Just curious.
what’s the record for the number of DP’s in a game
I heart the X-Man
Oh Robbie. Ugh
Back to work Andy
“This is unreal. We have some seriously, seriously bad karma going on right now.”
Sure feels like it.
A-Rod tries to pull a pitch on the outer part of the plate, and that’s what you get ….
Guys and Ladies,
What don’t we get? It’s 3-0 and its 96 degrees down there. The Yankees have an air-conditioned hotel to get to.
“SJ44
August 5th, 2008 at 9:05 pm
The DP’s just keep piling up. Good God, what an awful offensive baseball team.”
Was that really you, SJ44? Or, do we have another imposter?
I think we should start expecting October baseball without the New York Yankees for the first time in a long, long time.
Here’s to 2009!
the team is pathetic. why doesent someone tell cano that he needs to work deeper into counts. i dont think he has seen more than 5 pitches in an atbat this year.
Jeter needs 25 hits for 2,500 and 11 GIDP for 200 career. Even money on which milestone he reaches first.
This offense will pick it up… I have faith.
Can we stop with this Arod is the best hitter in the league nonsense…. PLEASE….
man our $47 + million dollar left side of the infield is having a huge effort tonight…
you can’t make this up what this team does day in and day out.. the offense today only has salaries of about like $80 mill os you cannot expect much production.. the yare sitting or have injured about $50 mill addtl in salary.
this for 3.5 has been a new low ineptitude.. Harrison is Glavine didn’t you know that?/ His 4 k’s until tonight and like 17 walks was a n illusion the yanks have there usual we have not seen then yet excuse.. the yanks if you did not know are the only team in the league without video players…..
Matt,
You mean when the Rangers came to Yankee Stadium and beat the Yankees two of three at the end of June?
You mean that time? Aside from one outburst, the Yankees did nothing offensively in that series and lost it at home.
Really, unless you are a Red Sox fan just hear to bust chops, stop. You are making Yankee fans look really, really bad.
j – I figured it would be 9…I just wondered what was the most ever recorded in an actual game
I’m ready to buy the goat. Anyone know a voodoo priest?
I just hope Joba is OK. This team offensively is a disgrace.
Can’t be more than nine.
This game the Yankees can’t hit in more than eight, though I think it’s extremely possible for them to do so.
They seriously did something to piss off the baseball g-ds.
Wish I knew what it was.
The Yankees are not an awful offensive team. That would be the Wasington Nationals.
We should have sold a week ago.
Pettitte, Mussina, Giambi, Abreu, Damon
All could have fetched prime prospects.
Sunny,
If they do, it will already be a 6-0 game and they’ll pick it up in the 8th, and then the relief pitchers will promptly give the runs back.
KC tied it up with BOS.
Guess Kennedy is on he’s way.I was so hoping for Zambrano or Eric Milton.
The record for DPs in a game is 6
I think I will switch over to America’s Got Talent. Because this team is really short on it.
SA: One of my old high school teachers used to work as a lawyer and once worked on a Santeria (Voodoo) case. She probably has a number somewhere…
They should have traded A-Rod last summer too. The guy is not a winner. He doesn’t play winning baseball.
American League Averages:
.333 OBP/.415 SLG/ .748 OPS
Derek Jeter:
.343/ .392 / .736
Derek Jeter Salary : $21 million
AL Average Position Player Salary: $ Considerably less mn
Just sayin’
“We should have sold a week ago.”
That would be like giving up. And the Yankees are not quitters. You can’t sell tickets to 4mil people and then NOT go for the gold.
Don’t bother. David Hasselhoff just GIDP.
thanks, Neil…
half-way there, guys!!!
strikes! Please
“A-Rod tries to pull a pitch on the outer part of the plate, and that’s what you get ….”
ARod tries to pull outside pitches a lot these days to make up for an offense that just can’t score.
He’s trying to make up for the lack of production everywhere else and he’s expanding his hitting zone.
He’s been doing it all year, especially with men on base.
I think he’s trying to do what he did last year with all of those big home runs.
But even for him last year was close to a career year. Even the best players aren’t going to have years like that too often.
This team’s offense is so difficult to understand or to fix because as a whole it is far less than the sum of its parts.
Some of the things that get said here early in games are pretty priceless.
“They should have traded A-Rod last summer too. The guy is not a winner. He doesn’t play winning baseball.”
Who do you think would have been able to pick up A-Rod’s 300mil contract?
We make the worst pitchers look like Nolan Ryan and Sandy Koufax.
Once again, another underachieving Yankees team makes a bottom dweller look like a world beater and it keeps up, YEAR after YEAR after YEAR after YEAR…SO FLIPPIN’ OLD !
But I will leave you guys alone now, with all things going downhill….. lol, the yanks are just too pathetic for me to even root against or waste my time on. See you next season.
That’s how you get in a RISP. Wow…Yankees see that HR’s are not the only way.
Just saw a shot of Girardi… he looks like he hasn’t slept since getting to Texas…
Laura,
Trying to have a go at a pennant with the current team was the worst mistake ever. I agree they should have gotten rid of the dead weight, rebuild for ’09 and take it from there. That would have been a better signal than sticking with this bunch of overpaid has-beens
SJ,
Thanks for proving my point exactly. What were the scores of those two losses ?
3-2, 2-1.
The Rangers cannot score unless aided by this ballpark.
The Yankees are not a good offensive team. It’s hard for them to slug with a team when the home ballpark is such an offensive advantage. They were in an offensive slump at that time, they could score more than 2 or 3 runs. But to ask them to score 6 or 7 every night is a lot more difficult.
And thanks for the kind words. You’re sure making Yankees fans look good by insulting your fellow posters. Way to make Yankees fans look good!
Just because I’m not a butt kisser like the rest of people on here doesn’t mean I can’t say what I think and be right about it as well.
The Rangers have a huge advantage here- HOW CAN ANYONE DENY THAT? They are not the pushover joke teams of 2 or 3 years ago. They are a team that is 2 games behind us in the wild card! We won here because they were awful, not because the ballpark is good for playing in.
Ed,
Montero is the hitting prospect in the organization, IMO. I think he is a man child with the bat.
I have a feeling his future is at first base. He’s still growing and I think he can get to the majors faster as a first baseman than as a catcher. He’s ok behind the plate. However, Austin Romine, the other catcher in Charleston (they alternate between C and DH) is a much better defensive catcher.
So now we need 4 runs to tie it up
wow they get a runner in from 3rd with situational hitting.. what a concept..
this is like our usual loss to the Orioles, or KC, or Cincy, or other crappy teams…
Harrisons WHIP going into this game is over 2…….
Pettitte coming up big again.. Hell he only makes $16 mill, he is a bargain on this team…….
Is this 1988 or 2008?
Tampa Bay and Boston WILL win tonight. Last night was a missed opportunity and tonight is an embarrassment.
I think this all relates to the Curse of Bernie.
this team has rendered me speechless…
I hope this game buries the True Yankee(TM), glory days infatuation once and for all.
True Yankees/”Winners”/Gamers/Etc, when they are needed the most:
Derek Jeter- Killing us
Andy Pettitte: Killing us
Jorge Posada: MIA
Mo: Closers are overrated as by definition you only use them in games that you are 90% likely to win anyway (see article in ESPN by Jim Caple; the only intelligent thing he has written in his entire career)
Who are these Ranger announcers?
The announcer sounds like Beaver Cleaver, and the “commentator” sounds like Eddie Haskell.
I guess PEDitte is experiencing HGH withdrawls. Back on the juice PEDitte !
” So now we need 4 runs to tie it up ” wow, you can count !
” Wow…Yankees see that HR’s are not the only way.”
Sure, we have DP’s and K’s also.
Sometimes you got to know when to fold a losing hand. This year was that time.
They could have stocked the farm system with trading away these high priced, old vets.
You think the Mets could have used Bobby A?
The Phillies Andy P?
Damon, Mussina, Melky, Cano, the list goes on.
They could have reloaded that farm system that isn’t exactly churning out high end talent.
Yankee fans would appreciate that. It isn’t quitting when you do it right.
Ooh, that was a nice play by Robbie.
I’d ask for a run next inning, but right now I’d be okay with just not GIDP’ing.
If I could I’d piss inside each and every one of the water/gatorade bottles these Yankees drink from
That’s it walk the Boggs guy, like he’s son of Wade.
I’d take their entire outfield over ours plus their catcher, 1st and 2nd baseman, and definitely their shortstop.
Let’s just make sure we sign Jeter to a 4-year deal when his contract is up at age 36.
That play that Cano just made was ESPNs favorite play for like a week when another player did it. They’ll probably pretend that this one never happened.
“Trying to have a go at a pennant with the current team was the worst mistake ever. I agree they should have gotten rid of the dead weight, rebuild for ‘09 and take it from there. That would have been a better signal than sticking with this bunch of overpaid has-beens”
Tell that to the 4mil fans who plunked down money for those very expensive tickets.
Right before the trade deadline, the Yankees were playing very well. That led ownership to believe that they had a shot. They went out and did some deals that DID help. Just not enough I guess.
I don’t know; this offense has me scratching my head on a daily basis. Of course, it’s easy for us to be sitting in front of our PCs (or MacBooks) and say what they should have done. We aren’t out there in the heat. We’re not up there at the plate facing guys throwing 95 miles an hour. Maybe the Yankees of old just made it look easier than it actually is.
i told everybody that a-rod is loser and regular season player he cares only about himself and his strippers and the yankees had a chance at trading for longoria wow
Yeah, But CB he used to drive that pitch to right center and that’s where his power is as he extends his arms…..Not sure why he’s trying to yank everything to left….He’s keepin his hands and hips locked , but seems as though he’s rolling over….What the hell, he is A-Rod after all….
This team needs to get younger
What’s the average age, like 34 or something? Look at the Rays. They were really young, they sucked, but look at them now. They’re in the place the Yankees wished they were in.
“I have a feeling his future is at first base. He’s still growing and I think he can get to the majors faster as a first baseman than as a catcher. He’s ok behind the plate. However, Austin Romine, the other catcher in Charleston (they alternate between C and DH) is a much better defensive catcher.”
Amazing. He reads Keith Law too! Passing that off as your own ideas now too, SJ?
“as a whole it is far less than the sum of its parts”
I don’t really agree with this. Molina is a terrible hitter and has had way too many at-bats. Jeter and Cano and Melky have been extremely disappointing. Abreu’s bat stopped producing impressive power back in 2006. Matsui and Posada have missed most of the season. Gardner and Ensberg and Duncan were terrible. ARod has been awesome, and Damon has been good. But other than that, the individual parts have been crap. The whole is the sum of the parts. The parts are not very good.
LOL can you poeple stop with the Yankees should have traded everyone to build a farm system….
Matt the rangers are 2 or 3 games behind the Yanks because the yanks suck..
how can you say the rangers are good with this pitching staff? Yeah they look good against the yankees because the Yanks suck..
People let’s be real this is terrible viewing.. King Derek looks terrible, I like the guy and appreciate all he has done for the team but come on he is not hitting this year…
Arod the best player in the game!!!That is a tag line from his fan club, be real when does he carry a team??? 1 month last year that is it.. he is in his 5th yr.(I think it is 5) he is a numbers guy, all sizzle but no results…
The post game show if this continues tonight should be classic…….
At least he didnt strike out, but that only took 2 pitches.
Rebecca stop with the Santeria nonsense…isn’t that somewhat religious?
Just stop it!
EdFl, Jesus Montero is a prime prospect, probably the Yankees’ best positional prospect. He is only 19 and the youngest player in his league. He hits for a .300 plus average and hits the ball a country mile. Some question whether he will remain a catcher, but he has made great strides this season behind the plate.
Any AB where the Big Sexy doesn’t strike out is a good thing IMO.
this team doesn’t deserve to be in the post season.
Tonight I am very disappointed in this team. Jeter, ARod, et al…come on. This is when we need you guys to step up and get it done. It is obvious that Andy P did not bring his A game by giving up 4 runs after 4.
Swinging at too many first pitches. Swinging at bad pitches. Grounding into double plays.
Some 7 plus ERA rookie pitcher looks like Cy F’ing Young.
The Angels will be frothing at the mouth this weekend.
Harrison is a pitching god
i sense another closed door meeting followed by another loss?
In Pettitte, my faith is starting to wane tho… sigh
Richie Sexson must go. Is John Olerud still available?
“i told everybody that a-rod is loser and regular season player he cares only about himself and his strippers and the yankees had a chance at trading for longoria wow”
you’re an idiot.
“Who do you think would have been able to pick up A-Rod’s 300mil contract?”
Mark Cuban?
Andy has been less dandy off late.. the offense is not helping either..
is it a crazy idea to try Jetes at #1.. Damon will atleast beat out some DP balls..
Matt,
How can a team featuring Arod, Giambi, Nady, Abreu (who has more HR’s after the Break than Josh Hamilton), and Cano, not be considered a power team?
They aren’t a good hitting team. I don’t care where they are playing, they haven’t hit much all year.
You make it sound like its impossible for them to play in this ballpark.
They have OWNED this team over the years in this ballpark. Until the last two days of course.
They are facing the worst pitching staff in the AL. You mean to tell me they can’t hit in Texas, facing the worst pitching staff in the league, because of the ballpark?
How do you explain not hitting against them in NY?
Really, I get the fact you are frustrated because for the first time in your young life, the Yankees are probably not going to make the playoffs.
However, to post nonsenical gibberish, then get upset when you get called on it, really son, get a grip.
Andy Pettitte gave up 9 runs in his last start AT HOME. What was the excuse that night?
The Rangers have no more of a home field advantage than anybody else. They are a good hitting team.
The Yankees used to be a good hitting team. That’s the difference between the two teams right now.
They don’t change the balls and move the fences back when the Yankees bat in Texas. Its ok for them to hit and not GIDP every inning.
The ballpark excuse is so lame. It really is.
Dude is sporting an ERA in the mid sixes and we are playing the DAMN RANGERS….This game, last night’s game, this series we are about to lose…should once and for all show that we are NOT a good team….AGAIN….Get into the playoffs ?…for what ? to get bounced out EASILY again in the 1st round ? Good Night,,,,we stink stink and stink some more !
John Olerud??? Steve Balboni looked good at Old Timer’s Day
It’s these moments where the Yankees are unwatchable. Too many wasted opportunities.
Bring on the Hoff!
“Mark Cuban?”
A-Rod is switching to basketball? Wow. I didn’t know.
Jose Molina swinging at a nice 3-2 pitch in the dirt.
VIN-
The Mets could have used Abreu but apparently short of prospects.
The Yankees did the best they could at the trading deadline, except get a starting pitcher, to keep us in the hunt. The simple fact is we haven’t played good fundamental baseball all year and the injuries have taken their toll, plus the lineup look old and probably feels old at this time of the season.
well atleast no dp this innning
This team fooled the fans near the deadline. The front office apparently wasn’t fooled since they didn’t grab a starting pitcher they needed and didn’t trade any prospect of any note. They had to have seen the run differentials and realized they were a year away.
They just didn’t sell like they should have.
Now we have to watch aging, overpaid players slouch their way thru the hot month and a wasted September.
maybe we can resign oneil and tino. that should bring some life in. lol
OMG, these guys are on some serious crack if they think that Texas will be the Wild Card winner.
does Molina even have abs anymore?
Jesus Montero is 18, and he and his teammates are once again beating the living snot out of the Sox low A team at Greenville tonight.
Well great. I just logged on, looked at Gameday and, hey Pete. Its obviously Andy, not Pudge.
I SAD TO SAY BUT I THINK THE FAT LADY IS SINGING FOR THIS TEAM RIGHT NOW, THEY DO NOT HAVE ATTITUDE, PLAYING LIKE THIS, THER WON’T BE OCTOBER FOR THE YANKS, IT’S TIME TO WAKE UP RIGHT NOW, TOMORROW WILL BE LATE, BAD NEWS EVERYWHERE. SAD LAST SEASON FOR THE CATHEDRAL.
trainer talking to eiland…hmm what could he be saying?
His ERA is just going down down down
Predicted line for the Captain for thsi game:
AB- 5
H- 1 (scratch single in the 9th for a futile rally when 7 runs behind)
GIDP- 2
E- 1
TC- Too numerous to count (TH= Tipping cap in the clubhouse to future HoF, nameless, faceless and chinless pitcher that just shut them down)
I do think Matt protests too much.
clevland just missed a grand slam, by like 2 feet.
Hey, there was no GIDP there!
I’d consider it an improvement.
“I have a feeling his future is at first base. He’s still growing and I think he can get to the majors faster as a first baseman than as a catcher. He’s ok behind the plate. However, Austin Romine, the other catcher in Charleston (they alternate between C and DH) is a much better defensive catcher”
he doesn’t have to read Keith Law. Most yankee fans already know this.
nice try tho.
The Yankees always seems to have difficulties with pitchers they’ve never seen before. Time to stick Irod back in there. Pettitte’s working with Molina hasn’t helped.
“Let’s just make sure we sign Jeter to a 4-year deal when his contract is up at age 36.”
Oh, don’t worry we will. Because it’s more important to this organization to sign old players to absurd contracts just so they remain a Yankee. It’s the Yankee way.
woo – that was pretty lame…
The Yankees don’t have a lot of fight in them and are a fairly emotional team. Something like the thought of losing Joba would have a negative affect on them. They look down. They seem down. I just don’t see any “Let’s Go!” in them tonight. Maybe it’s just me.
j-
are you carzy to sign o’neill and tino? all True Yankess fans know that Scotty Brosius was the heart and soul of those teams.
“Oh, don’t worry we will. Because it’s more important to this organization to sign old players to absurd contracts just so they remain a Yankee. It’s the Yankee way.”
Tell that to Bernie Williams.
“The Mets could have used Abreu but apparently short of prospects.”
What would it have taken?? He’s gone after this year anyway. They might not even offer arbitration because he might actually accept it. They may not even get the picks for him.
You don’t think the Twins could have used him? The White Sox are playing Griffey everyday! The Diamondbacks are desperate for a hitter.
Abreu could have fetched two good prospects. This system could have been restocked and reloaded.
Unless you like watching a dead team go thru the motions.
why does arod get a yankeeography? what are the hilglights?
5 shutout innings from a complete nobody. That is beyond pathetic.
ohhh yankeeography – Alexander Rodriquez — who’s gonna watch?
Vin,
I think that is the thing that is so depressing. This team, right here, is the real Yankees and I was duped into believing they could pull it out. However, they are old, slow, and don’t do the little things that it takes to win games.
note to self:
Find less frustrating past time
call bumper bowling league
Well it’s a good thing we gave up in last nights game.
The only good thing tonight is that Brandon Laird, Austin Romine, Ivan Nova and Carmen Angelini are developing. Here’s a scary thought Igawa about to 9-1 since May 16th
rconn23 — sad, but true
Laura…
mark cuban is default favorite to buy the cubs… so ARod to the cubs cud have happened…
You know the game is going bad when the lead Yankee beat writer doesn’t even care to post anything anymore.
FYI for everyone – Jeter has hit into the 4th most double plays in the league so far this season.
The only players ahead of him are: Vlade Guerrero, Derek Lee, and Adrian Gonzalez. All slow guys.
At what point do the yankees have to move jeter out of the two hole because he has ZERO speed left and can’t beat out anything anymore.
Why is it that every time the Yankees are facing a pitcher they’ve never seen before, they give up before they begin playing? Is it really that hard to take some pitches against a guy with an over-7 ERA and practically no MLB-experience? No matter who the Yankees are playing, if they’ve never seen the pitcher before, they never hit him. It’s absolutely pathetic.
I wish I could watch that Yankeeography. I hope they show that BAL game where he hit that Grand Slam to win it. That was a classic!
The best SS in NY plays in Queens. Sad but true.
Hope the Yankees are watching Freddy Garcia audition.They can sure use him.
Laura-
Bernie ate up at leat two full seasons of valuable ABs past his expiration date.
And I hereby, unilaterally declare a moratorium on all Rays/Bosox scoreboard watching until the boys at least push a run across against future HoFer Mr. Harrison.
At least all those arms will be nice and fresh to mop up tonight
the guy is itching a 3 hitter thru 5 on like 70 pitches.. I am embarresed you think the zillionaires have enough pride to be embarrased???
this is deplorable…
we have been reduced to look at the box scores of Yankee / sux games in Low A ball.. Montero may be up in the majors in 3 years.. Many things can happen in 3 yrs….
In 3 years we can still have the captain doing his thing at SS and other assorted nightmares…Man Jeter is fielding well this year but who would have thunk his hitting would go away like this…….
Laura X -
Unfortunately, if “seasoned” veterans like Jeter, Giambi, Damon, Abreu, etc get so down about a 22-year old rookie that they can’t go out and win a game in the midst of a Wild Card chase/Pennant race, they are morons.
How many times during the past few seasons have our Yankees done well against the best pitchers in the game, and made retreads and rookies look like the second coming of Cy Young?
even hayes reached a world series with the yankees. arod has yet to do that.
Looks like Beckett has his mojo back and Tampa winning, Not a good night for the Yanks.
I’ve written off this season; no way the Yankees make the playoffs. Management should spend the rest of the year really evaluating talent and making smart trades. The “let’s buy a championship” mentality has to stop. That is what put us in the spot we are now. It all started with Giambi, then A-rod, and the list goes on and on. Even my 10 year old can see the glaring mistakes of the recent years, and the big holes in the team.
“mark cuban is default favorite to buy the cubs… so ARod to the cubs cud have happened…”
I don’t see that happening. There are too many people who don’t want Cuban to get the Cubs, most notably Bud Selig.
Nice to see that for the big salary ARod is willing to play 3rd and Short.
Look at AROD playing short…wait..
There those SS skills
Hey, when did Melky get traded to Texas?
nice play by alex…. jeter was just lollygagging
Enough is enough with Joe Girardi and his matchups.
Jason Giambi is better than Richie Sexson, Jason plays. There is a reason Richie Sexson was cut by the WORST team in baseball. He can’t hit. He can’t hit righties and he can’t hit lefties. He has 0 extra base hits as a Yankees. ZERO.
Everyone loves to rip on Melky and say how bad he is. But all he has to do is bat ninth in the order. Not have a .400 OBP or drive in 2 runs a game. That is the job for the top of the order and because they can’t do their job, it makes Melky look bad. There is a reason Justin Christian made his MLB debut at the age of 28. He is a good bench player who should pinch run in the late innings. Not start back to back days for a player who isn’t hurt in the middle of the stretch run in August.
The catching situation is what it is. Some days Molina will hit well and some days Pudge will hit well it really doesn’t matter who plays. But Girardi has turned a great AL lineup into a NL lineup by shortening the lineup to 6 hitters instead of making it somewhat circular. Now isn’t the time to start screwing around when the Yankees are down to two reliable starters and playing an awful pitching team who ranks 29th and 30th in all major pitching categories.
Igawa has 4 walks tonight or more.. 4 walks with his stuff will not work in the adult league.. that is the problem when you look at these minor league #’s..
Igawa has to reduce his walks because his stuff is not good enough, he can get away with it in the little kiddie league but not in the majors…
“Hope the Yankees are watching Freddy Garcia audition.They can sure use him.”
Why, can he hit?
“nice play by alex…. jeter was just lollygagging”
That wasn’t his play. Third Basemen has forward momentum on that. That will always be a 3B play.
JEd-
Not to mention that those guys are all slugging the ball while DJ is slugging .736, and on pace to have over 80 Ks and only 10 stolen bases. He’s been good at laying down the sacrifice in the first inning though. Old School #2 hitter ala Rooster Burleson. Low OBP/No power/No range but good at sac bunting.
YES….let’s walk michael young to get to josh hamilton. he’s the guy we want to face.
Dellin Betances (continues to keep the BB’s down)
6.0 IP, 4 H, 0 R, 0 ER, 1 BB, 6 K’s
This season is sad and not just because we lost Joba for however long. The team got old. Fast.
We have all known the farm system was neglected for a decade. We are starting to realize that now with nothing in the way of positional talent coming up to oush the regulars or even sit on the bench.
We had to sign Richie Sexson. You heard right. because we didn’t even have a 1b in the minor leagues. 1b!! The easiest position to find a bat and for 6 years we can’t even find a caddy for Giambi.
I think we all know Melky should have been traded last winter when his value was sky high.
We could have got Johan Santana for him. Now? We couldn’t get Rafael Santana to play SS for him.
I still believe the Yankees have a chance in this game. It is FAR from over.
Pettitte at 86+ pitches through 5… if we’re lucky he can blank them for 2 more. The Yanks are getting a good luck at harry and hopefully will break through soon…
What happens next year when they raise ticket prices to ungodly levels? At some point, the fans are going to cry uncle. Will they pay $200+ per ticket to watch an aging, apathetic team?
sorry DJ is slugging .392. OPS is .736.
another 2 out walk for andy — not good..
We have to admit that we need a SS next year. Jeter has to move or be traded.
“mark cuban is default favorite to buy the cubs… so ARod to the cubs cud have happened”
maybe it still can.
“he used to drive that pitch to right center and that’s where his power is as he extends his arms…..Not sure why he’s trying to yank everything to left…”
Agreed. It’s a truly amazing thing to watch him hit to the opposite field. I don’t know if I’ve ever seen a right handed batter with that kind of opposite field power. Pujols I suppose. Manny is a all time great but even he doesn’t have that kind of opposite field power.
But Alex is at his best when he lets the game come to him. When he does – like he did last year – its astonishing to watch.
But he’s pressing this year and he’s trying to pull the ball much more. I think he’s trying to jack the ball out of the park and has become more pull conscious.
He’s also chasing more bad pitches – both in and out of the zone.
A lefty like Harrison is not going to take risks trying to bore the ball on the inner half of the plate against Alex. He’s going to try to live on the outer half.
Alex is doing him a favor by pulling pitches like that instead of letting his natural talent take over and driving the ball the other way.
It’s an easy problem to describe but power hitters do this all the time.
Had Sexson’s ball been a foot left or right in the 2nd, this would be a ballgame.
Arod and Jeter’s DPs are the ones that really hurt.
How our Captain can continue to snuff out rallies is beyond belief.
Never seen Jeter so anxious, impatient, and frankly, weak.
No way he should be reaching out there to try to pull that ball.
the yanks should have fleeced bay from the pirates also.
That’s another thing we aren’t doing; walking. We used to be near the top in walks. Not this year.
this isn’t emotional or reactional…but this isn’t the Yanks year and the worse part is….they know it.
this is not a good pitching team…but that has mattered very little this year. Jeter, Cano, and Abreu have played sub-par, and Pettite is too inconsistent. Moose has been a great surprise; Damon and Giambi have played up to their caliber. Arod’s stats look good, but they feel so plastic b/c his RISP is so awful.
and despite injuries there was (and possibly still is) a chance.
Good job Pettitte, walk that guy one more time. Last time it worked out great, didn’t it?
These players including Jeter ought to look Tino, Brosius, Cone and O’Neill in the face and apologize for wearing the uniform
Dang, Ellsbury is fast.
now the couch coaches want melky back in and why is giambi getting the night off.
GIAMBI IS GETTING THE NIGHT OFF FOOL BECAUSE; HE IS LUG, WHO CANNOT PLAY DAY IN AND DAY OUT WITHOUT GETTING HURT OR BE INNEFECTIVE. HE ALSO IS HITTING UNDER 200 WITH RISP, SO HE IS NOT EXACTLY LOU GEHRIG…GIAMBI HAS GOTTEN DEHYDRATED NUMEROUS TIMES IN HIS CAREER HOWWOULD HE DO PLAYING THE FIELD IN 98 DEGREES OR MORE MULTI DAYS IN A ROW???
UNDERSTAND MORONS>>>>>
CaptainDP!!!!
Sweet….rain is coming….end this misery.
“the guy is itching a 3 hitter thru 5 on like 70 pitches.. I am embarresed you think the zillionaires have enough pride to be embarrased???”
He 5 hit the team with the best record in baseball thru 7 last month.
it starts now…3 runs in the sisth,,,
couple more in the 7th
Brandon – your prediction for this game re the offense? Not so much…so far…
Ott:
Too bad Reyes is a spoiled brat.And you never saw Jeter throw he’s glove on the floor and B*tch over a throwing error.
Too bad Reyes doesn’t have class.
Andy Pettite,
bless him, what a pitcher he used to be. This is hard watching him now. Sort of like Whitey after 1964.
I will say this, unless the Yankees do some very smart horse trading this offseason, this team is starting to remind me of 1965 and 1966. Everyone started getting old at the same time with no young replacements.
It’s not our year. It happens.
“We have to admit that we need a SS next year. Jeter has to move or be traded.”
I see this here on the blog every single day and I have to laugh. No way are the Yankees trading or moving Jeter. It’s not going to happen. Jeter may one day move off of SS, but it ain’t this year or the next.
“I think we all know Melky should have been traded last winter when his value was sky high.
We could have got Johan Santana for him. Now? We couldn’t get Rafael Santana to play SS for him”
why do you post this?
you left out wang and kennedy, from the trade offer.
“These players including Jeter ought to look Tino, Brosius, Cone and O’Neill in the face and apologize for wearing the uniform”
Its comments like this that sometimes makes me a self-loathing yankees fan.
“I think we all know Melky should have been traded last winter when his value was sky high.
We could have got Johan Santana for him. Now? We couldn’t get Rafael Santana to play SS for him.”
Are you an idiot or a troll? I’m leaning troll, but wow, that’s stupid.
Melky for Johan? Yes, Yankees would have done that in a heartbeat.
Betances Final line
6.2 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7 K’s
(Man if he keeps the walks down he’s going to be special)
Why they thought they could go into the season with a Centerfielder who can’t hit is beyond me.
3rd time through the order we gotta do something here
I thaught Cy Young retired long time ago. I didn’t know he was pitching for Texas Rangers.
Okay, this is their third go round. They should know what this guy is going to throw by now.
Sorry Pete…..
“These players including Jeter ought to look Tino, Brosius, Cone and O’Neill in the face and apologize for wearing the uniform”
post of the evening.
Hey! guess what? Jeter can’t GIDP here!
A step at a time.
Jeter can’t GIDP now.
Plate the run please.
Damn was I the only one who thought Murphy caught that
Damon’s still got the wheels, too!
wow….some luck for us?
Laura,
Don’t worry, school will be back in session soon and logic will again take over the blog.
I for one, am voting for year round school in the metropolitan area! lol
Derek Jeter isn’t going anywhere. Nor is Arod. Both guys have no trade clauses and have no interest in leaving NY.
Folks may be able to trade them in their video games or on their fantasy teams.
But, in the real world, both guys will be Yankees next year.
No DP for Derek here. LOL!
John Sterling: “It is HIGH! It is FAR! It’s is… CAUGHT! No, it’s off the wall!”
“Are you an idiot or a troll? I’m leaning troll, but wow, that’s stupid.
Melky for Johan? Yes, Yankees would have done that in a heartbeat.”
Was Melky in the Hughes package for Santana???
Get some brains before you come on here posting like you know something. You just embarrass yourself, troll.
I thought he caught that too.
Oh my god, you can’t give Jeter an easier situation to drive in a run. It’ll be interesting to see if Jeter can find a way not to get it in here.
“I thaught Cy Young retired long time ago. I didn’t know he was pitching for Texas Rangers.”
Clever. Never seen that posted on here before…
Hard to hit into a DP with man on 3rd!
our worst mistake was letting pettite go in 2003. that move cost us the 2004 playoffs against boston
PLEASE TAKE A STRIKE…..DONT SWING
Jeter can’t GIDP now.
Never say never, your talking about the master at the Turn 1 play
“Some days Molina will hit well and some days Pudge will hit well it really doesn’t matter who plays.”
Do you really believe this? If it didn’t matter, the Yankees wouldn’t have traded for Pudge. The truth is, even at this stage of his career, Pudge is a much better hitter than Jose Molina. It’s not even close. Jose Molina is fine as a backup catcher, but he is just an absolutely terrible hitter and hurts the team if you need him to play more than 2 games a week.
lets go yankee chant….
LOL you never know what kind of dp he might hit in to
A run, a run, my kingdom for a run!
Laura-
Jeter my definitely have to move off SS some day. Soon. Maybe he can slide over to 1B because we haven’t had a corner infielder slugging uner .400 since Cash was forced to DFA Minky and Cairo so Torre would stop running them out there.
If Jeter truly was a team player he would have began the transition to centerfield when ARod was originally signed. Now, he barely hits enough to play even there unless he is an above average defender, which is tough to do at his age.
“Don’t worry, school will be back in session soon and logic will again take over the blog.”
Another case of SJ being overly optimistic
Wow….he did his job.
BTW…ANDY HAWKINS???? ARE THE RANGERS KIDDING ME?? Although Harrison is Cy Young tonight.
Well at least they can’t say he shut us out
“Never say never, your talking about the master at the Turn 1 play
”
that was a lucky run and the yanks know it. damon hit a ball that just missed being caught
Betances Final line
6.2 IP, 6 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7 K’s
(Man if he keeps the walks down he’s going to be special)
Betances is about 4 years from the major leagues. A lot can happen in 4 years.
Everyone loves to talk about Tino and Brosius and O’Neill and Knoblauch, but the fact of the matter is, the Yankees won because they had great starting pitching.
They had Pettitte, Cone, Wells, Clemens, and El Duque and other reliables as well.
Their pitching was so good that the Yankees hit .183 against Arizona in the 2001 World Series and had an ERA of 4.26 to Arizona’s 1.94 and it still took a bloop single with the infield in for the Yankees dynasty to be stopped.
Tino, Brosius, O’Neill and the gang didn’t win the four rings. Starting pitching did.
If you look at the pitching since the start of 2004 it has been almost comical to read the rotation names and the fact that the Yankees have 100+ win seasons more than once since then is even more astonishing.
I want to apologize to (most of) you, it’s my fault that the Melky-for-Santana deal fell through. I told Cashman that I liked my ‘got melky?’ shirt too much to stop wearing it and he put the kibosh on the deal.
cleavland come back in the 7th. first and third and zero outs.
Want to add to the Joba enigma. Read the Star-Ledger’s report.
Chamberlain on Tuesday was examined by Yankees team physician Stuart Hershon in New York and “underwent a number of tests, including an MRI,” according to the team.
“He’s fine,” Harlan Chamberlain said.
Asked how serious the injury is, Harlan said, “Don’t know yet. Time will tell.”
SJ, I’ve got to disagree with you about Romine being a better catcher than Montero. I’ve seen about 40 of the Charleston games this year and just from what I’ve seen from the two, Montero has played better defense than Romine…throwing out runners, fewer passed balls and fewer errors. So far this year, Montero has been doing more catching, also. Romine has the reputation of being the better defensive of the two, but, I haven’t seen it, yet. The good thing about Romine, though, is that he’s hitting better than expected. I think that the Yanks are looking at Laird as the future 1st baseman. Another homer tonight with 3 RBI.
As I type this, Romine has been hurt in the game.
Vin-
Looking backwards, if they had not run off that 8 game streak, I agree that it would have made sense to trade as many FA’s to be as possible, for preferably position players that would be more developed than what we would get in draft picks.
Abreu might have gone to the Dodgers, instead of Manny.
Mussina-maybe the Phils would have enticed him to waive his NTC.
Pettitte might have gone back to Houston-they were buyers. Why?
Farnsworth would have fetched prospects instead of a player they won’t resign.
Giambi would not have been able to be traded with his 5M buyout unless the Yankees ate most of his salary, and I doubt if anyone would still have wanted or needed him.
Damon might have fetched some value, while Matsui would not, until proven healthy.
The simple fact is, that retrospectfully, we were in the chase for a playoff spot, where in past years the wild card has often made it to the WS.
Now we just need 4 more runs please
Wow, Jeter actually hit a fly ball to get the run in. Haven’t seen that in forever, it seems like.
hey anyone else listen to these goons on the rangers broadcast?
ever since i moved i must admit i miss the yes broadcasters
Nick, aren’t you also a self-professed Communist?
This is why you start your A lineup.
Giambi should be out there for 5 at bats against a rookie.
You call those BOOS Texas hang your head in shame !
NY >>> TEX
“our worst mistake was letting pettite go in 2003. that move cost us the 2004 playoffs against boston”
No. Letting Pettite walk was what got us Phil Hughes, since he turned out to be the draft compensation for Andy.
And even more importantly, Andy Pettitte was injured in 2004. He missed more than half the season, and didn’t pitch after mid-August. This is partly why the Yankees got rid of him. They knew his arm was a bit fragile and injury-prone. But anyway, he wasn’t healthy in October 2004, so he would not have helped them avoid defeat.
Vin-
You are correct. It was not Melky for Santana. The last offer I saw was the Yankees relenting to Melky + Hughes + Kennedy, but the Twins shopped it so Hank pulled the offer.
J, Andy only pitched in 15 games, winning six, in 2004 for Houston. The Yankees didn’t resign him because they were afraid he’d be hurt – and he was.
Wow. Wow. Wow.
WILL HE STOP TRYING TO PULL OUTSIDE PITCHES???!
J, deep breaths… It’s time to let go of 2004. Here’s some good news: Cleveland is threatening and KC just got out of a jam in the 5th.
GB: For real?
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOo
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!
No, the Yankees are looking bad, you tool!
Man, I hate opposing team announcers.
arod has hit the ball about 180 feet in total today.
crap… wasted opportunity. work the pitcher…
well they have 4 runs on 4 hits, while the bombers have 1 run on 4 hits with three DP’s…..we are not a disciplined team.
keep on pulling that pitch A-Rod, you’re doing great
If we aren’t careful, this road trip will bury us.
Relax, the Yankees are coming back in this game.
JUST FIRE KEVIN LONG ALREADY !
Neil-
I hope you didn’t think I wa sserious about the good old days of Scott Brosius and Tino. Of course it was the pitching. And a healthy dose of luck in winning almost every close game (yes including 2001 until the last one).
And a whole lot of Mo!
Anybody check out the Tribe’s starting line-up tonight?
6 of the 9 are hitting under .245!
(still can’t believe we lost to those bozos last year)
Actually Craig, when John Olereud went down in that series, I think game three, we were stuck with strikeout artist Tony Clark at first. I think that made a huge difference. Also we signed the wrong DH that was available-Giambi instead of Ortiz.
“Nick, aren’t you also a self-professed Communist?”
Um, no. Quite the opposite.
Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn R.I.P.
Laura — you’re absolutely right. And the trip only gets tougher in 3 days.
Now we really know why Jeter called his foundation “Turn Two”.
He just never told us it was about his offense, not defense.
in the 90′s there was also fire within the team. players would show their emotions and play each game hard. you dont see that anymore on the yanks.
squeezed again…jesus…where is this umpire looking?
I take back all the bad things I have said tonight about our left side of the infield tonight. they got a sac fly.. arod 3 and 1 on Glavine rips the ball to 3rd .
7.94 was the ERA of Glavine going into tonights battle..
seriously I hope is going to save this game for a yankee classic.. how can any reasonable observers remotely like what they see in this team…
Pettitte looks terrible…
Betances who is three levels from the bigs, is not going to take 4 years to get there if he stays healthy. In fact, if he gets the walks and mechanics under control he will start moving quickly.
Is Marlon Byrd even good…or are the Yankees making him look good too?
Yankee Trader,
Looks like we got fooled by a hot streak. I haven’t seen much of a playoff time all season here especially with all the key injuries that we have had. Stranger things have happened and I’ll take my chances with Boston and TB right now.
But sometimes you got to pull a Billy Beane and take 1 step back to take 3 forward. Especially with 90+ mill coming off the books to retool. This wouldn’t have been a long rebuild job. Could have been younger, leaner, and faster in the new ballpark. But that would have taken some major cajones.
They could have got creative and moved Cano too. He could have pulled a nice haul of A prospects.
that’s the end for pettitte methinks.
Only fitting that when the Yankees finally score a run, Pettitte goes out and gives it right back.
Alex Rodriquez, as clutch as the games has to offer.
Yankee Trader, I long have ontended what you just stated: Losing John Olerud really was a key to losing that series. Weird as that sounds!
Weird comments by Hank Steinbrenner and Harlan about Joba.
Hank: “‘It’s too bad, but it happens,” Steinbrenner said. “Hopefully everything will be okay. ‘We really don’t know yet on Joba for sure.’”
Harlan: “‘He’s fine,’ Harlan Chamberlain said.
“Asked how serious the injury is, Harlan said, ‘Don’t know yet. Time will tell.’”
just terrefic the rfally in tampa has been squashed. there was 1st and third and zero outs, and they managed a strikeout and a pop out.
J,
I agree with you about the “fire”. I don’t see a passion in the players. They don’t all have to slam their helmets like O’Neill, or pump their fists like Tino…but some fight would be nice.
Bad tag by Jeter.
I mean seriously when this team goes cold it trickles down and spreads how the hell is it that a batting coach can get off this whole season. Show some balls send a message and fire Long already.
Marlon Byrd is not good. Not even close to good. At least he wasn’t before yesterday.
oh come on. Wake up out there!
or not.
The Star Ledger piece also says that it was the yankees who requested the second opinion from Andrews rather than Joba himself or his agents:
“Cashman said the second opinion is being sought at the team’s request, not Chamberlain’s.”
http://www.nj.com/yankees/inde....._deta.html
TKinDC
The Indians were not a team of bozos last year. If we had won the “midges ” game we might have well gone on in the playoffs.
Marlon Byrd is Ted Williams all of a sudden. Or actually he is just hitting the way that our 1-4 hitters suppose to.
Meanwhile CLE has 1st and 3rd with NO OUTS against TB and now they have TWO outs with no runs in.
Nick SF, I was kidding. In the spirit of your irony about apologizing for Cashman’s blunder in not trading for Santana.
So,man on 2nd, nobody out…Texas will certainly get the run in, right?
“Betances who is three levels from the bigs, is not going to take 4 years to get there if he stays healthy.”
He’ll be up sometime in 2011 if he stays healthy.
Short answer: Marlon is not that good.
Meanwhile, the Mets blow-pen is about to blow it again.
I almost feel bad for them.
“They could have got creative and moved Cano too.”
There’s a difference between creative and stupid. This is another common post that I see that has me scratching my head. As frustrated as Cano can be, his potential makes him a keeper. Add in that we don’t have a suitable replacement for him and their decision to keep him is clear.
Yup…because they are doing the little things. Get a run, give up a run. Typical. I’m sick.
im pretty convinced now that girardi has no idea how to handle pitchers…
Maybe I’ll watch the Mets game-at least it will make me laugh.
Heilman just gave up a 3 run HR in the 9th. Mets now lead 6-5
now should be the end for AP
We have a Hall of Fame
3b
SS
closer
catcher
borderline hall of famers at
original catcher
moose,pettite
we got all stars at 1b,lf,rf,dh,2b
and we are in 3rd place
who gets the blame? manager?
The Royals need to snap out of it. Beckett is looking too relaxed out there.
the only person on the yanks with any fire left is their manager. he has had some epic arguements this year.
My road trip forecast is the Yanks will win 2, lose 8. They will fall to 8 or 9 behind Tampa, 5 behind Boston. And with that, I bid you all goodnight and good luck with the stomach after seeing this nausea inducing team.
Time for Andy to call it a night and regroup for the Halos game.
KS,
Read the Hank quote in that story. Doesn’t sound great.
Sounds to me like the Yankees are sending the pictures to Andrews (along with Joba) to confirm their diagnosis.
Not exactly sounding chipper.
GB,
I’ve seen a lot of Charleston games myself this year. Romine’s mechanics behind the plate are much better than Montero’s.
Montero has improved but, he’s not the defensive catcher Romine is. I also think Romine’s long term prospects behind the plate are better than Montero’s.
Romine lost a lot of time to injury this year. That set him back working with a lot of the pitchers.
Montero may be closer to 6-5, 6-6 by next season. IMO, he’s outgrowing the catching position.
It will be interesting to see what the Yankees do with him. His bat is so good, I could see him progressing quickly through the system and I don’t think they will want catching to be an impediment to that.
Thanks for NOTHING, Andy.
Until last year Pettite was very good 2nd half pitcher. Not so this year atleast so far. Did the HGH shipping didn’t arrive this year? Just makes me suspicious.
The Yankees have actually succeeded in making Texas look like a well-disciplined, finely honed, opportunistic team. That is not an easy feat. Can I shout “refund” for a game I’m not attending?
I don’t know why I waste so many hours of my day in connection to this team.
I think I’ll be seeing Jeter hit into double plays in my sleep tonight. For $21 million, I could do that.
DISGRACE
ZMAN–
I’ll take Marlon Byrd and their entire outfield over ours!
Weird stuff, CB, the Ledger report would seem to make any speculation superfluous. It belies all of the pessimistic conclusions, on the one hand, and on the other, it contradicts itself.
WTF Bobby? had plenty of time. Also, great job by Pettitte, what a gamer!!
“The Indians were not a team of bozos last year. If we had won the “midges †game we might have well gone on in the playoffs.”
YT -
I would have used a more specific description but the FCC would come after me. Although like ‘midges’ it starts with m and ends with s.
I hate to be negative, but this team just looks dead. I’m embarrassed to watch them play if they can’t perform at a decent level. Here’s to 2009 I suppose.
we have so many all stars yet figgins and byrd are the guys that stand out in these past games
Rangers are making the Yankees look like a last place fish. The Texas announcers are absolutely beside themselves crowing about how they are beating the “mighty Yankees.”
This ballclub looks like a defeated team right now.
rally is over in tampa, and they got nothing. havent they heard of a squeeze play? nobody plays small ball anymore.
I love Andy, but can we stop with the “big-game pitcher” stuff once and for all?
I’m interested: which is higher, the number of times Jeter GIDPs, or the number of times the Mets bullpen blows a lead?
“Actually Craig, when John Olereud went down in that series, I think game three, we were stuck with strikeout artist Tony Clark at first. I think that made a huge difference. Also we signed the wrong DH that was available-Giambi instead of Ortiz.”
I don’t disagree with any of this. I was just disagreeing with the guy that said not having Pettitte was the reason the Yanks lost in 2004, since it is clearly a false claim.
Andy Pettite…can you say…done. No more Yankees contracts. With the new ballpark, they REALLY need to start anew.
Andy the gamer. Can’t wait for his “I stunk or I let the team down. I have one job to give this team a chance to win and I didn’t do it.”
Andy makes roughly $500,000 a start and now has a 12.23 ERA in his last two starts (and it could be higher if Murphy scores). So much for that BIG second half pitcher who can’t even turn in a quality start.
I’m not being apathetic, but this is not good considering this is the first week of August…….And the loss of John Olerud killed the Yanks in 04….However had Tony Clark’s ground rule double not just cleard the wall, then there would never had game 6 or game 7…..Still the organization has never fully recovered from that debacle
when I was little my folks made me eat creamed codfish over boiled potatoes That is why I hate the Red Sox.
Even the Hank quote, SJ, seems to imply two different conclusions.
On the one hand, Hanks says, “It’s too bad, but it happens….Hopefully everything will be okay.
On the other hand, Hank says, “”We really don’t know yet on Joba for sure.”
I understand people getting hurt etc, but when the stuff you count on (Pettite actually giving his team a chance to win and the offense actually doing their job) falls apart, how are you supposed to have any sort of hope…
when are the announcers going to say something to this affect”man the yanks tink” that was a terrible effort and these guys should be arrested for theft of there paychecks???
If you are a fan of the pirates or some other bad team you can accept it your team is just not that talented or the other teams have bigger payrolls, what can we hang our hats on? Jeter at 34 going on 35 will turn things around next year.. Arod who has never won anything will do it next year? etc..
the good things for this year are; seeing guys like robertson play, joba improve, and Damon have a good year.. things like that watching the every day lineup is bad watching.
Just think we get 9 more years of the best player in the game, where can I sign up for more Charlie hayes and scott brosius????
well even though pettite was hurt, brown did not do much to help at all.
Yankee Trader — at this point, it’s hard to argue with you. Before yesterday, he was Marlon “Lady” Byrd. Now, he’s Honus Wagner.
I would say that the Yankees should feel embarrassed, but with their salaries, it probably takes an awful lot to feel discouraged.
I’m pretty sure Pettite hurt his arm in 2004 while hitting.
This game looks bad. Guys are running wild on Pettite last 2 games.
I think this team needs some PED’s.
Cano should have been the first one on the trading block. He is a young player tied to an affordable contract. Makes him very attractive to all teams.
His lazy play and bad instincts and his lack of improvement are startling. The NY nightlife certainly doesn’t help.
He could have fetched at least 3 good prospects and probably one prime caliber one.
2b is an easy position to fill. He’ll outgrow the position anyway and end up in LF. Where is bat won’t separate him.
Ugh. Now Boston’s offense is coasting. I can’t watch that game anymore.
yeah
What was it about Sexson’s recent performance that warranted a start tonight?
Ok, everyone, step away from the ledge. “screaming” on computer screen or at each other isn’t helping. (Btw..Jeter, gidp and all is the only one who has driven in a run so far this evening…)
we should have been sellers – ok – they took a shot – bad luck, poor play, age, whatever, has conspired against this team. let it go and hopefully they position themselves for two-three years from now.
Okay D-Rob, tonight is your night to give up a GS and make your manager look stupid because he left you in there too long.
another short start for the starter… bullpen blown to itty bitty pieces…
this game is still winnable so it concerns me that the bullpen is going to get abused… *-)
brown in the 2004 alcs 3.33 innings and 9 runs allowed. id take pettite with a bad elbow anyday.
All the talent in the world, but no heart. That’s a recipe for a team that won’t go anywhere when it counts.
This was the series they should have won 3/4 EASILY in. Pettitte, Joba, and Moose all going in it. And what happened? They could lose 3/4 the rate they’re going. 1-3 in Texas and they will be done and buried. You aren’t coming back from 5 or 6 back of any race with this team the way it’s constructed.
It’s not Girardi’s fault. How can he make these guys hit in the cluch and not hit into double plays? They have no heart, no fire, no guts.
You get this team down, they stay down. Any deficit and they bury themselves with horrible at bats and lack of plate discipline. This team can’t come back unless the circumstances are PERFECT like Sunday and the other team gives them 5 outs in an inning.
What a pathetic player Sexson is.
So tomorrow, we’ll have to listen to 4 hours of them going over why they dumped Ponson. Great.
Don’t worry fans.
We got 8 more on the road. 6 against first place teams.
Stuart,
I am under the impression that the YES announcers are under a gag order to ever say the Yankees look like crap. I agree with you 100%.
They look dead in the water, lifeless, defeated, depressed, and any other word that reflects “beaten” and “loser”-y
jeter deserves a medal he hit the ball to the outfield with a man on 3rd and no outs!!!!!!
Holy crap my eyes are mistaken he actually is playing well…..
so we Int BB the #8 to get to the #9 and hope for a DP, b/c I sure don’t want to see Kinsler up there with RISP
The series that cost us the playoffs most likely will be looked back and seen to be the BALTIMORE series at home. When the Red Sox get swept by the Angels at home, and you lose 2/3 to the last place Orioles at home, goodnight playoffs. All the games they lost to Texas, Cincy, Baltimore, and the like at home and all the games they “threw away” because it “didn’t matter” because it was ONLY April, May, June, July, or August, are the reason they are going to miss the playoffs unless they wake up and play with some heart for once.
SJ, another thing to keep in mind, Hank, whatever you may think about him, is neither reticent nor discreet.
Hank is still rebelling against the Old Man’s secrecy policy.
He’s more forthcoming than anyone else in the organization.
Maybe, the Yankees really don’t know as yet what to make of Joba’s MRI.
“Ok, everyone, step away from the ledge. “screaming†on computer screen or at each other isn’t helping.”
Why should we?
We lost our 2 aces.
Team has no heart.
No one can hit with RISP.
The manager never pushes a right button.
Why should we not yell and scream? Isn’t that why we are here?
“It belies all of the pessimistic conclusions, on the one hand, and on the other, it contradicts itself.”
It does. I have no basis for saying this at all and I try not to speculate on injuries but this is Joba so it’s tough not to wonder.
Gut feeling from reading those strange, mixed quotes is that he’s out for the season but it isn’t career threatening.
They called Harlan because in the past he’s been very vocal about Joba saying things the team wouldn’t necessarily want to.
I don’t think he’d say Joba was “fine” if he had a career threatening injury.
But at the same time neither he nor Hank sound real enthusiastic.
SJ, just going on what I’ve seen from the two. Obviously, if Montero gets any taller, he won’t catch on a regular basis, but, I’d still like to see him get time behind the plate. It would give NYY a nice option to have another multi-positional player, to eliminate having to carry three catchers again. I just wasn’t that impressed with Romine’s catching. Do love Laird’s defense at first and that bat is something. A swing that would remind old timers of Moose Skowren. Average and right handed power to all fields.
So much for the DP. This team looks really “into the game”
TB won. BOS winning. Not a great night.
Barring a comeback the Yankees HAVE to win the next two games in Texas before they go to LA and MIN. I was hoping for a 6 or 7 win road trip and now 5-5 would be incredible.
KS,
Sounds like Hank is dying to say something but is following the party line of saying nothing until the Andrews consult.
I just hope he doesn’t need surgery. Shoulder surgery ain’t pretty.
If its an injury that is season ending, requiring no surgery, and an off-season rehab/strengthening program (a la Papelbon after 2006), that’s good news for me.
I just don’t want to hear “shoulder surgery” in any sentence involving Joba.
That would be devastating.
that just goes to show how bad this team is when molina is missing balls that are thrown to him
I’ve seen Cashman lauded here many times. Yet he contructed this team; he grossly overpaid Giambi, Damon, Pavano, Igawa, A-Rod, Posada, etc., etc., etc. I really hope he’s shown the door.
We are screwed. Sox cruising and Rays getting out of jams left and right. Meanwhile we got schooled by a rookie with an ERA north of 7.00 and we cannot do anything about it.
This game is about to get ugly…
I wonder how Yankee fans will handle Jeter being a $20M singles hitter with a .690 OPS for the next 2 years.
well crap. with pettitte out – should pudge be in too?
This isn’t going to be pretty, is it?
And this is why you win a game you are leading 3-0 against Vicente Padilla.
Texas really needs to get over themselves. If they wanted to impress someone, perhaps they shouldn’t be 12 games behind LAA.
blah blah blah blah blah GRRRRRRRGRRRR blah blah blah blah GROWL blah blah blah blah GRRRRRGRRRRR blah bah blah blah GROWL blah blah blah….
I am flying from LA to NY for the friday and saturday game against Toronto at the end of august. I am paying for 7 tickets about $900 and flying across the country to see my team before they close the stadium..
Because I am a lunatic fanatic it is worth it but what other person with a brain would pay that type of money to see this garbage???
Robertson is getting a education as we watch…
nice wild pitch..
Another thing to keep in mind about why Cano will probably get moved in the off season or at least discussed.
Jeter needs someplace to play and soon. Even he knows he can’t play SS forever. And the Yanks cannot afford to let themselves get held hostage like the Birds and Ripken.
He may have to slide over to 2b.
And if you can trade Cano for say Chad Billinglsey you may really think about it.
can it get any worse?
ugh i dont want to see the bp give up a granny in 3 straight games
Maybe Ron Washington will put Warner Madrigal in again an do us a favor.
Last night and tonight are the games you HAVE to win if you want to make the playoffs. You FIND A WAY to win these games and stop sitting around making excuses for yourselves. Well guess what, they haven’t won these games, and it’s worth a 2 game swing in the standings so far since they could have gained yesterday and will lose ground today.
All these “give up” “give away” “who cares it doesn’t matter it’s only X month” games add up when the team plays like it does. Every give up game and thrown away game is a game that is burying us now.
So we really think this guy should have been brought in last night?
Here comes the GS!
Yankeenate…I have a feeling it is about to get worse, but thats just me
Sorry. I thought that TB won. It was TOR that won. TB is winning though.
Laura:
do they not play 9 inning baseball in tampa, i am watching that game it seems to be in the 7th inning 4 – 3 rays.
Oh my goodness gracious David
I wish we were playing those hapless Angels again instead of this class team.
uh oh
Stick the fork in ’08.
man o man kinsler just missed hitting two pitches 500 ft +
I Googled the phrase Misery Loves Company and this blogs URL appeared first.
i understand a team desiring to build for the future, but the Yanks timing might be off b/c the player development doesn’t appear to happening prior to the veterans talent dropping off
NongEye-
You know if Andy really has a desire to pitch in the new ballpark next season, I have some suggestions:
1. Pitch like an Ace, and sign a 1 year deal.
2. Retire and come back for Old timers Game.
3. Retire and come back for a home game to throw out the first pitch.
4. Retire and sneak into the park before the season starts and throw a few pitches.
5. Retire and dream about pitching in New Yankee Stadium.
6. Sign with another team in the offseason, that has an away game at Yankee Stadium.
7. Retire and become the Yankees bullpen coach.
I’m sorry. Did I miss any????????
joe should be like lou p call of his team and say you dont preform that people from a ball will come up and replace them
GB7 –
Any opinion of Bradley Suttle? I root for Longhorns.
This is what happens when a guy rots in the pen without pitching for 6 days.
Hmm that 2-2 pitch was a strike. Funny, isn’t it, how we can never get calls from umpires in big spots?
Pettitte with two horrendous outings when we really needed him.
“And if you can trade Cano for say Chad Billinglsey you may really think about it.”
I may be crazy, but I just don’t see the Yankees moving Cano. I think that they see him as the 2B of the future. He stinks this year because he’s trying to play up to the contract. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s not 100% better next season. Yes, he’ll start slow, but he’ll turn it on in the 2nd half…and not just for a week either!!!
wow big k from D-Rob there throwing fastball after fastball there
Heeeeeeee, struck him out!
Please stop blaming the umps.
Gee, I wonder if we stink at hitting and pitching against the hapless Rangers,,,if we somehow make the playoffs, how CRAPPY will we play against a REAL baseball team. Enjoy your 2008 New York (we play like Cubs of old) Yankees….Wa-Hoooo ! We s*ck !!!
woot.
GB7,
What’s your impression of Laird’s swing? I had very high hopes for him coming into this season. He absolutely raked in high school in what’s arguably the best high school ball in the country (out Pat M’s way at Westminster) and then was fantastic at a very good junior college. Great late round pick.
And of course Boras is his agent and Boras isn’t wasting his time on a guy who he doesn’t think has talent.
I’ve been real happy to see Laird hit with so much power – at 20 he’s not particularly old for low A.
But I’m a little surprised to see him not hit for better contact.
Does his swing seem to have any major holes to you? Is it lack of plate discipline/ pitch recognition? (his OBP isn’t very good – like a lot of young players) Is his swing long?
Pettitte didn’t get hurt in 2004 from hitting:
“Through most of this season, Andy Pettitte’s desire to help his team stay in the playoff hunt helped to numb the nagging pain he felt in his elbow with every start.
But eventually, the left-hander knew he had to come to terms with the inevitable — his condition isn’t going to improve this year, and it’s time to fix the problem instead of simply hoping it won’t get worse.
So Pettitte’s frustrating year officially came to an end on Wednesday, when the Houston Astros announced that the left-hander will undergo surgery to repair the torn flexor tendon in his left elbow.”
http://astros.mlb.com/news/art.....8;c_id=hou
WOW
Heeeeeeee, struck him out again!
Yankee Trader -
I think you hit every one. I was trying to come up with a witty remark, but I couldn’t. It’s time to turn the page.
Can the Yanks feed off of David Robertson???
well roberston just injected some life into this team, can it carry over?
Could have had that last night
sit down!
“I am flying from LA to NY for the friday and saturday game against Toronto at the end of august. I am paying for 7 tickets about $900 and flying across the country to see my team before they close the stadium..
Because I am a lunatic fanatic it is worth it but what other person with a brain would pay that type of money to see this garbage???”
You’re seriously complaining about this?
Honestly sell your tickets to people who’ll appreciate what an opportunity that is.
Wow, clutch from Robertson!
Maybe he should have been pitching last night after all…(only joking, I know there’s a good reason he didn’t)
Yeah, it was a good thing he didn’t come in with the bases loaded last night. We might of had a chance at winning the game!
Hey, maybe Robertson CAN pitch with the bases loaded (and down 4 runs).
ok – but all the painful hits have been coming with 2 outs…
TB taking care of business…
Kid is tremendous.
A bright spot in the nighttime.
Attaboy David!
that was amazing and his best pitch is the curve!
sweet jesus – come back time!
well, well, well
Trading Cano is not a smart move. He is gold glove caliber at 2nd base and one of our best offensive players when he’s on.
The team’s weakness is offense and minor league infielders. You don’t trade from a weakness to fill a strength (young starting piching). They have so many guys, they don’t need another pitcher.
If healthy, they have for next year:
Wang, Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, whichever of Pettite/Moose stays, plus Sabathia is on the market, Aceves is almost ready possibly, and they are rehabbing Milton, Zambrano, and the like. They have pitching.
What they need is a hitter who can actually hit wih RISP.
Trading Cano is not a smart move. He is gold glove caliber at 2nd base and one of our best offensive players when he’s on.
The team’s weakness is offense and minor league infielders. You don’t trade from a weakness to fill a strength (young starting piching). They have so many guys, they don’t need another pitcher.
If healthy, they have for next year:
Wang, Joba, Hughes, Kennedy, whichever of Pettite/Moose stays, plus Sabathia is on the market, Aceves is almost ready possibly, and they are rehabbing Milton, Zambrano, and the like. They have pitching.
What they need is a hitter who can actually hit wih RISP.
Robertson ……good.
I actually consider it an accomplishment that they didn’t allow a grand slam for the 3rd straight day.
i get the fact that pettite was hurt, however as i posted browns stats, they were simply horrendous, just like every yankee pitcher. gordna also blew a two run lead giving up an oppistie field homerun to ortiz
HOW ABOUT THAT!
For all of you who said “YOU DONT THROW A YOUNG ROOKIE IN WITH THE BASES LOADED!! YOU KEEP MARTE IN!”
Take a look at what Robertson just did.
Let it sink in.
And admit you were wrong.
The Shield finally returns. That only took over a year.
Sweet…this means that the Yankees can come back to tie the game, then lose it in the bottom of the 9th on a passed ball with 2 outs and a runner on 3rd….WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE…this is FUN !
Looks like Longoria salted it away for the Rays with a 2 run jack.
There goes the momentum.
“brown in the 2004 alcs 3.33 innings and 9 runs allowed. id take pettite with a bad elbow anyday.”
Pettitte was physically unable to throw a pitch in October 2004. How exactly would that help the Yankees win?
“I may be crazy, but I just don’t see the Yankees moving Cano. I think that they see him as the 2B of the future.”
I agree with that assessment about Cano.
Maybe the real problem is, oh, the fact that 7.30 ERA Matt Harrison, who has given up on average 2 baserunners per inning, has held us to 1 run in 6+ with only 85 pitches?
Maybe make a guy who had almost a 2:1 bb/k ratio throw pitches?
question:
I collect lunch boxes, i live on the west coast, can i buy someone a ticket who lives in the metro NY area to go to the game and get me one of those Yankee stadium lunchboxes?
Moose’s numbers against Texas, anyone?
Sometimes, the mountain becomes too big to climb.
You lose Wang, Chamberlain, Hughes for months, Matsui, Posada, etc, you have no margin for error.
Damon is playing with one arm. Melky and Cano have fallen off the map this season in terms of consistent game in game out play. Jeter has been awful ever since he got drilled by Cabrera. Giambi has been awful for all but about 5 weeks this season. Arod is trying to do too much and getting himself out.
Andy Pettitte and Mike Mussina can’t afford to have bad outings. Especially back to back. Wholly unfair when you think about it.
Its impossible to expect things just to work out because they are the Yankees.
For most of this season, they had a bottom third of the batting order than more resembled the San Diego Padres than an AL team.
Pitchers are going to have bad outings. They are even going to have bad streaks. However, when Rasner and Ponson are at back end of the rotation, you have little margin for error.
While Rasner and Ponson are favorites of some in here, the fact is, neither guy is a 12-20 start per year guy in a playoff rotation. That’s what the Yankees are asking them to do. Not good.
Yes, the majority of the team has underperformed this year offensively. However, the injuries have played, and are playing a major, major part in their underperformance.
The lineup has no flow and no balance. That’s because of injury as much as it is underperformance.
Instead of having Wang on the mound to stop a losing streak, you have Sidney Ponson.
Instead of knowing Joba will be on the hill in 4 days, you have Dan Giese or Ian Kennedy.
At some point, a team gets so beaten down, they can’t recover. Its beginning to look like that’s the case with this team.
Hey, maybe I’m just a hopeless optimist SJ44 and CB, but I read Hank and Harlan’s comments and I come to the diametrically opposite conclusion.
I infer that’s it’s a minor injury, like a bicep muscle tear, that the Yankees are acting their usual overly cautious selves, that there’s a genuine chance of Joba returning again this year, and that before prescribing a course of treatment, they want to confirm with Andrews that that he can’t suffer permanent damage through a short rehabilitation followed by a throwing program.
Cano’s gone blind again.
can they score 1 more little run?
Its not heart that these Yankees lack, but talent. At least talent on the field. And in this decade. Go around the horn today.
1B- Brutally bad, worse hitter than a firnge utility guy
2B- OBP below .300 for the season only 18 walks in 440 PAs
3B- Monster
SS- league average at best excpet for being a GIDP machine with no power
C – Below replacement level, even for a back-up C
RF- Barely above league average offense at a corner OF spot, which is supposed to be a premium offensive position
LF- Good but not great OBP; no power for the position
CF- AAA guy, who was the thir option behind such stiffs as Melky and Gardner
DH- Good but not great
That nets out to a bad line-up, but one that should still socre 3 or 4 runs against this joker. But, of course that still wouldn’t be good enough give Andy’s effort.
“i get the fact that pettite was hurt, however as i posted browns stats, they were simply horrendous, just like every yankee pitcher. gordna also blew a two run lead giving up an oppistie field homerun to ortiz”
Yes the Yankee pitchers were terrible. But your original claim was that Pettitte would have helped them win. And that isn’t true.
floyd just hit a jack for he rays too
Take a look at what Robertson just did.
Let it sink in.
And admit you were wrong.
No not really because it wasn’t his situation to pitch out of and there was no evidence that he could get out of that, did you notice he also walked the basesloaded in that inning ? But him getting out of it now is a sample GI Joe can use for the next time that situation comes up
I can’t wait to hear the responses in the post-game about Harrison.
Jeter: “Yeah…the guy was just better. I mean, he pitched well. We’ve got to come out tomorrow and play better.”
Pettite: “I stunk. Hopefully I can turn it around.”
Girardi: “We’ve run into a good pitcher. This Texas starting rotation is something. We just need to come out tomorrow and get a win.”
“Maybe the real problem is, oh, the fact that 7.30 ERA Matt Harrison, who has given up on average 2 baserunners per inning, has held us to 1 run in 6+ with only 85 pitches?”
I’m looking forward to the post game interviews where the hitters will tell us that he had great stuff. Of course, I could just replay an old interview and hear the same thing.
where is that texas picther who gave up 8 runs to us this year.
Oh sh** Robi drew a walk
a walk for cano. i am speechless
Cano may have gone blind, but he just walked.
It’s also the ridiculous schedule we have. We haven’t had an off day in a week and a half, almost two weeks. Our bullpen is so worn down right now from throwing so many days in a row and having Mo ou right now, and our players look tired on the field.
We have had 2 ridiculous stretches this year. We had almost 20+ straight games in April, most on the road, and now we’re going to have another stretch of essentially 20 games without an off day. It’s hard to play well when you’re exhausted.
Richie Sexson is still batting. Girardi mailing it in.
Oh My God, get these people off of my screen!
we got a call….we got a CALL !!! That was clearly a strike….boy have the mighty fallen, when the umps have to give the YANKEES a pity walk in the 7th inning against Fibber McGee on the mound !
Sexson’s at-bats are foregone conclusions.
time for a GIDP
Cano just walked.
Something special is going to happen now.
It’s not every week you get to see Cano walk.
Sexson still hitting.. somebody wake up Joe G!
and BACK to the crappy calls….like THAT was a strike…NOT !
I don’t have a problem with the Big Sexy playing. How is he going to get a chance to get into a groove if he doesn’t play? Plus, Giambi had stopped hitting lefties recently.
MyrtleBeach,
A little different game situation, don’t you think?
Robertson was the last guy in the ‘pen last night. If they had to use him, and he had to go more than one inning, he wouldn’t have been available today.
They can’t use the entire bullpen every day. That’s why the bullpen has been getting hit lately. Everybody is pitching too much.
They couldn’t use him last night unless the game went extras because Mo, Veras, and Giese were unavailable, while Ramirez, and Bruney already pitched.
It was either hold back Robertson or use Moose on his throw day. Neither are good options.
Its not that hard to figure out. Just look at the workloads of guys for the past week.
Cano
May – - .295
June – .287
July – -.327
Rangers locker room post game scenario:
Reporter speaking to Harrison: “You just pitched the best game of your career. You are awesome!”
Harrison: “yeah but I walked Cano”
Reporter: Oh, I didn’t realize that. Yeah that is bad. Gotta go. Hamilton just walked out of the shower!”
KS,
I hope you’re right. Honestly, I have no idea. I just find what they’re saying to have a grey lining. Not black but not clear either.
It’s all speculation at this point. But this is it – this is the franchise’s future.
He has the best stuff in baseball. You don’t get a pitcher like that in your franchise very often – that’s a once in a blue moon phenomenon.
what a weak hack, stop trying to pull the ball !!!!!!
i have never seen more stupid in-game announcing and fan shots that the past 2 nights. what’s worse is we are getting drilled by a team who actually pays announcers to say this stupid crap and allow fans/idiots in the ballpark to dress up and scream
Damon is playing with one arm.
————-
When did Damon have two arms?
I kid.
You know ur team sucks when you shut them off 2 watch “The Marine”
Matt Harrison = Chase Wright
Now that the conversation has moved to the future, your going to love Kyle Higashioka ( ? spelling )..He has outstanding power, way more that Romine..The ball just explodes off his bat….Very quick hands, of course it all needs to translate to wood….But many of these kids played in the winter ( fall ) wood bat leagues during the HS off season…..Not sure where he was assigned to, but SJ if you get a chance to catch any Florida State league games check him out….The kid flat out sticks….Now back to the reality of the Yanks and their 7-3 road trip that I was pumping up a few days ago….
wow did sexon just get a hit? the sky must be falling.
Hey, there’s an extra base hit for Sexy!
WOW He got a hit against the worst pitcher in the AL.
Neil- So you were saying?
That’s his first extra base hit as a Yankee I think.
about time Sexy hit a LH hard
Comeback time. And so it begins….
Richie wants the ball back – he’ll ask the team to sign it later.
Can we bat Jeter here right now, to get us the GIDP we need to get closer to this FARCE of a team being retired for the evening ?
Matt Harrison,
Greatest pitcher ever.
wow…did the big sexy just get a hit, i should turn the channel more often!!!!!!!!!!
Hate to burst anybody’s bubble, but by the end of the night we could be 6.5GB in the division and 3.5GB in the WC with TEX 1.5 behind us.
C’mon Yankees let’s rally here and start a winning streak.
jennifer – Yeah Richie Sexson is great. Let’s get him MORE at bats.
Crazy world
Please tell me Girardi is going to pinch-hit for Molina.
Whoever posted before about Sexson not having an extra base hit needs to post that the Yanks have never come back from a 4 run deficit after 6 innings! Quickly please
pinch hit pudge here or giambi
This could be the potential players at each position for the 2009 season:
Whos on 1st.
Whats on 2nd, if Cano traded.
Captain GIDP is at SS.
A-Rod[overpaid and underloved] is at 3rd.
Posada, weak arm and all is at catcher.
X-Man in RF
Whos or Whats plays CF, if Melky traded.
Damon plays LF, grows his hair long, looks like Jesus, and plays like he was 25 again.
Godzilla at DH.
SJ –
What position do you see Montero playing, if not C?
And when, for the big club?
I just hope we don’t hear the words torn rotator cuff or labrum tomorrow. If that’s the case though, we’ve seen the last of dominant Joba for a long time. Maybe forever.
I just hope we don’t hear the words torn rotator cuff or labrum tomorrow. If that’s the case though, we’ve seen the last of dominant Joba for a long time. Maybe forever.
do we pinch hit pudge here?
Oh no…not Rupe ! This guy is the best pitcher on the planet…how can the measly Yankees get any more hits against the Bruce Sutter of 2008 ?
Here comes the Yankees!
“Wow, clutch from Robertson! Maybe he should have been pitching last night after all…(only joking, I know there’s a good reason he didn’t)â€
What was the good reason he didn’t? Marte was ONLY at 50 picthes? It was like Giradi was making him pitch until he collapsed. ‘Let’s see what you got new guy… take the damn ball and pitch till we loseâ€. Could’e, Should’ve, Would’ve—I still think Robertson was the better choice. But whatever happened, happened. We cant do much else but hate on Girardi. And hating on Girardi seems pretty fine to me at the moment.
PAT M thanks for the info on Higashi
I’m looking forward to following his statlines next year.
if Molina or Christian get hits here, the world is officially out of order
Great start to the easiest part of the Tough 10 game road trip. Yanks are supposed to sweep the Rangers before going on to face Angels and Twins. Should be a fun road trip. We may be out of the POstseason mathematically by the end of this road trip. Andy “HGH” Pettite Stinks.
TK, Suttle has a great swing, and the power is coming. More importantly, his defense is improving. He’s not going to be Eric Chavez or Graig Nettles, but, maybe wade Boggs with an arm. Charleston has him hitting in the #2 slot and he hasn’t killed many rallies.
Yes, kill, they are going to pinch hit for jose molina.
big g….cmon baby
Bet is better w/ RISP, Giambi prove me wrong PLEEEEASE !
I’d honestly rather see Betemit PH here.
Pat M,
I look forward to seeing him. I have heard great things about him. I think he is in the GCL.
KS,
I hope you are right re: Joba. I just don’t want surgery. That would be heartbreaking to me.
CB is right. The kid has the best stuff in the game right now. You hate to see anything change that.
Watch Giambi strike out or hit a fly ball
well there’s Giambi – time to get to ‘stache-less work
we need a walk, do not swing
By the way Sox up 8-1 Over the Royals and Rays leading 8-3 over Indians.
Someone hit it right on the nose. How can you sit Giambi against a rookie who is notorious for having no control? Whether he’s a lefty or a righty, it means nothing. Giambi is the type of hitter that could take advantage of a rookie who can’t throw strikes, and coming off last night’s performance, he’d deserve a chance to hit this guy.
Who knows what happens if you get Giambi 3 or 4 more at bats against the guy who was on the verge of giving up runs almost every inning early on?
why is melky on deck?
Melky a pinch-hitter…
I just threw up in my mouth.
Matt Harrison only had 4 k’s in 24.1 ip comming into tonight…
Thanks GB – In 9 years when 3b opens up that will come in handy!
Hey, CB, I agree with you about Joba. I’ve been watching the Yankees since 1977 and the only Yankee starter I’ve ever seen remotely approximate Joba’s talent is Guidry.
I just simply refuse to believe that after Joba’s post-game interview, he could have sustained any kind of injury that would threaten his career.
Pinch-run for Giambi, please.
Is there a reason Melky is pinch hitting?
Bases loaded for Melky? Ugh!
melky to hit……please hit in the air…NO DP here
Oh god … Melk Man please get something done here
yanks have no bench left now, minus betimet
Melky, for the love of all that’s holy, do NOT GIDP. Or strike out.
…And the Yankees are pinch running with a catcher, is that the first time this has ever happened?
All you people ripping the Yankees for not hitting Harrison…
Even Ponson throws a dominate game every now and then. Did he not just dominate the Angels? The hottest team in baseball???
You people know nothing about baseball. On any given day any major league pitcher can “have it” and dominate.
Please stop your crying and whining. So the Yanks aren’t great this. If you don’t like it what the he11 are you doing on a blog posting about it???
Can we get a GS here…please – it’s our turn!!!
betimet would be better pinch hitting here
y doesnt melky run for giambi and pudge hit for christian?
chopper to 2nd, DP ball
Melky is awesome.
Better than a DP
Watch the 4-6-3 coming.
SONOFA!…
…And this is why you don’t pinch hit with Melky.
Melky – pinch hitting… now there’s something you don’t see everyday.
look at the al mvp get it done there. someone should give joe manager of the year
and that’s exactly why we suck
Christian’s 1-2 and we ph?
Good, at least Damon gets a try.
Melky needs to be traded
Oh Melky. As our collective psyche hangs on the precipice, we needed more.
Come on, Johnny, we’re on the brink here!
Girardi throws away the game with his usual “overmanaging.”
Pinch hits for Molina with Giambi in a spot where he won’t get a pitch to hit, what a waste. Then he pinch hits Melky for Christian? WHY?
Melky is statistically the WORST HITTER ON THIS TEAM IN THE LAST MONTH.
He is notorious for lack of patience in the clutch, and is awful with RISP. WHY WHY WHY WHY?
The biggest spot in the game, and you pinch hit your worst hitter!
just think if xavier was not robbed of a hit what might have happened.
I dont need a grand slam here. A bases-clearing double will due.
at least it wasn’t 2
Joe Girardi is a little too obsessed with his lefty/righty matchups for my taste.
can johnny jesus damon get another hit??
Trade Milky, but no one team wants him.
melky the clutch brought in to save the game!
That’s the other possible result with Melky, either a bouncer to the 2nd baseman or a pop out.
CB, Laird has a really great swing with a slight uppercut, and can really launch some bombs. High line drives. His defense at first has improved greatly and having a third baseman’s arm at first is a huge advantage. Not sure of his experience in high school as a first base, but, with Martinez working with him, that’s the type of defense you could get. He played first a little last year, but, was pretty rough. Love that bat, though.
time to think about new CF option for next season
See the Yankees not score a run with bases loaded! Ha!
question – pudge is coming in why doesnt he pinch hit and melky run? i thought girardi was smart.
hit a homer damon you one armed noodle head.
I’m calling for a Damon BB and a Jeter gapper!
“On any given day any major league pitcher can “have it†and dominate.”
And these pitchers are somehow always facing the Yankees. Okay, makes sense.
I’ve had enough of Melky Cabrera.
The Yankees, potentially, have three very good corner outfielders for next year– Nady, Abreu, and Damon– and no major league-worthy starting center-fielder.
Girardi, you are an idiot ! Pinch hitting Melky for Justin ? after Justin showed that IN THIS GAME, he had a good bad ( 1 for 2 already )…..dude, you need to be fired….like now ! You lie all the time to the media, you s*ck at managing and you fall asleep at the wheel and think that your collection of stars can just run on autopilot….Here’s hoping that the Yankees finish below .500 and your next job is at Subway !
well damon do not swing take a walk and make it 5-2
* Please pause for Derek Jeter jokes *
Hey! We got a run
Im calling a Jeter pop-up to right.
CMON CAPTAIN
good thing we sent melky up to bat. king of the pop up
well jeter time for you to hit the second grandslam of your carrer
Fantastic job managing the team Girardi. Melky and Giambi…
What a genius!!!
Get rid of the bum
Nice!
oh jesus – here comes capt GIDP with one out… PINCH HIT PINCH HIT!!! Use Meacham!!!
The good thing here is that Jetes can’t GIDP now..
“He is notorious for lack of patience in the clutch, and is awful with RISP. WHY WHY WHY WHY? ”
Because Pudge is RH and he’s saving Betemit for later.
andy hawkins! yes! made my night.
That was actually a smart walk. You have a 4 run lead, and you can bring Jeter to the plate. I would have walked Damon also.
er… two outs.
If Jeter hits a base-clearing triple here, I’ll retract every negative, jealous comment I’ve ever made about him bagging Jessica Biel and hitting into far too many DPs.
no dp for Jeter this time.
Here’s the first pitch grounder to short now.
jeter ground out to 2nd…he quest for another GIDP is stopped b/c there is already 2 outs!
Something good about to happen
The guy can’t throw strikes….does Jeter TAKE a strike and make him throw 4??
Well, they scored a run because the pitcher gave it to them. Watch El Capitan pop out to end the inning…
no patience, come on
Melky has no spot on this team. I would put any other outfielder on this team in center field, regardless of his defensive “prowess,” because Melky is so awful at the plate. Damon has similar range even with no arm, and all of them are far superior at the plate.
GIDP JETER has GOT to be pissed…..being that there is NO WAY he can get his 19th GIDP of the year in this situation….maybe he can strike out looking OR better yet….swing at the first pitch and make an out……GENIUS !!!
Good lord, what is the logic behind giving Melky Cabrera who looks downright lost at the plate an AB?
I’m Girardi fan but that’s just stupid.
Why are you even attempting a swing against this guy 1-0 count
i have absolutely no faith in Jeter here. Can you blame me?
Nope…he sucks. Odds are this guy throw 4 balls before 3 strikes. But what will Jeter do…
Could have walked
wow it is 3-1 now, you have to take a pitch heree
Hey Girardi, if Jeter gets on base, why not bring on Betemit?
TAKEEEE
TAKE A PITCH.
He can’t throw strikes to the last 2 hitters, and he’s missing down and away. DO NOT SWING the bases are loaded the tying run is a walk away from scoring position.
well he should have walked in that at bat
Of course…Mr. Clutch sucks.
goddamnit jeter!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Only
one
run
3 left
WTF YOU DOING STUPID HE COULDN’T THROW A STRIKE !
And Jeter delivers!!! an inning ending fly out…
…That guy couldn’t throw strikes and Jeter swings?
I think the Yankees need a Nolan Ryan sitting next to the dugout scaring our pitchers into doing their job.
Oh yeah…I forgot.
Our Nolan Ryan can’t show his face in public.
Maybe a Winfield-O Neill tag team going postal in the locker room for the offense!
crap
Saw that coming. Jeter wouldn’t want to draw a walk in that situation. For the love of god, get him out of the 2 spot.
Please move Jeter out of the 2 hole…!
I remember when Jeter used to get clutch hits. Those were the days.
And Jeter hits into a DP, except there are already 2 outs. That’s why we need instant replay. That certainly was a double play ball!!!!!!
Remember the good ole days when Jeter was great? I do.
or hit a bullet to second… nice shot, no luck
he should’ve been taking that 1-0 pitch after the walk to Damon (which would’ve been 2-0 and eventually a walk) Damon should’ve been taking on his 3-1 pitch too.. I think he was taking all the way but it ended up low and in anyway
good job capt. way to end the rally… again.
tough luck, that was a hard hit ball. i really didn’t need the edge commercial right after.
Good AB by Jeter… Bad luck… So it goes today.
Lots of line drives right at fielders.
But hey thats why we all LOVE BASEBALL!!!
take a pitch!
Jeter does not have any goddamn edge
There ya go…give mr. ” my avg is the worst of my career” a green light on a 3-1 pitch in the situation and ONCE AGAIN….another GENIUS GIRARDI MOVE pays OFF HUGE…right ??? jerks….
MAN F*** YOUR EDGE JETES
Jeter hit the ball hard; just right at Kinsler.
Melky’s at-bat killed us. 1-1 count, swung at ball 2.
Cant blame Jeter for hitting that pitch. 8 times out of 10 that’s in right-center.
Derek Jeter makes me nauseaus
Hit a seed right to second….
What can Jeter contribute this year?
DP Championship!
Pathetic. Dude couldn’t buy a strike and Jeter swings at that garbage. I wish Joe G. had the balls to take Jeter out of the lineup for a couple of games.
I simply cannot believe he did not make him throw another pitch.
IDIOT JETER.
I do not care one bit that he “hit it hard.” That was the game on the line, and he failed.
The pitcher has not thrown strikes all at bat, and he swings at ball 4. He can hit it as hard as he wants, if he doesn’t get the run in it means NOTHING.
You TAKE A PITCH in that spot EVERY TIME. Unless you’re the “captain.” Then you can do whatever you feel like with no repurcussions.
DROP HIM IN THE LINEUP. Jeter single handedly has lost us so many games with his horrible at bats and double plays. He has lost his right to bat 2nd.
That at bat might have been the difference between winning and losing this game, and typical Jeter has no plate discipline and lost it.
5 LOB AND A DOUBLE PLAY. HE IS NOT A 2 HITTER.
Jeter hit the ball hard I know but “The Edge” commercial 2X in the 30 seconds after is a bit too much for my sensibilities
Donald Trump: Derek Jeter, You’re Fired.
derek jeter is the most overrated player in the league. ever since he first came up to the majors, i remember francesa waxing poetic about this guy.
now all he does is goes up there looking to swing at everything. he’s melky with 100m in the bank account. capt’n double play , captain rally killer.
Seriously, these moves that Girardi has been making are becoming laughable.
Melky Cabrera as a pinch hitter? Why?
““He is notorious for lack of patience in the clutch, and is awful with RISP. WHY WHY WHY WHY? â€
Because Pudge is RH and he’s saving Betemit for later.”
lol
Does it matter that Pudge is a RH? I mean Joe Girardi is a baseball stats guy, if you take a simple glance at Pudges splits you will see that he basically does the same vs lefties and righties.
It’s a stupid move. There is no defense behind using Melky Cabrera, who is the WORST HITTER IN BASEBALL since April over Pudge Rodriguez.
I would love to know what Girardi was thinking there.
There are other parts of the field Derek that you can hit it to.
why in the hell he bring robertson back
JEter-overrated,overpaided,disgrace
Michael Young has 1 more HR than Melky this year.
And that one more broke our back last night.
JETER IS FRIGGIN MORON..When did he forget how to play baseball.
GIRARDI NEEDS TO TREAT THESE IDIOTS LIKE LITTLE LEAGUERS AND PUT THE TAKE SIGN ON.
Jeter groupies, you take that pitch, the count would only be 3 and 2, but the hero guy does not have the brain or discipline to tkae the pitch.
DO NOT TELL ME HE HIT IT HARD, he ould have hit it hard on and 3 and 2 count also.
LOSING BASEBALL…LACK OF PLATE DISCIPLINE…THESE GUYS SUCK……………..
Guys, you can’t fault Jeter there. The missed opportunity was Melky’s AB. Where is Ruben Sierra when you need him?
Isn’t the saying good pitching beats good hitting every time, or is it bad pitching beats bad hitting??
Confused!
i had to log in from vacation just to say this: Jeter sucks. I have been saying it all season. He has killed this team all year long. He simply is not a good baseball player anymore. Its not up for debate. He sucks and he needs to get run out town, the sooner the better. We need to rid ourselves of this colossal failure.
Jeter hasn’t been clutch since the turn of the century. Granted it’s only been 7 years, but that’s still long enough to realize those days are over. Everyone (including the so-called experts) say he is clutch, when it reality it’s been a long ass time since he has been. You can only live off past success so long. It’s very, very sad to watch this guy decline so rapidly in front of us though, it really is.
Irritating the Rangers? Pettitte got squeezed pretty bad…
It would have been much smarter to pinch hit Pudge instead of Melky. Melky has some speed and Pudge has been hitting well. Instead, he puts the slow Pudge on the bases adn the slumping Melky at the plate. Girardi has his moments and this was not a very good one.
he hit a line drive. cant ask for anything more
I do not want to see Jeter in the two spot tomorrow.
The guy walked in a run and you didn’t take 3-1?!
Looks like Jeter caught A-Rod’s unclutchness disease.
jeter can’t let go of being the “hero”. those days are gone. he doesn’t understand that it was in the best interests of the TEAM to take one more pitch there.
still have two more innings to get that win…
“Maybe a Winfield-O Neill tag team going postal in the locker room for the offense”
I don’t know if that would help the offense but it would sure scare the seagulls and bat racks.
So if Jeter hits a grand slam there, you guys would still be saying he’s an idiot b/c he should have taken another pitch.
LOL… Morons…
and now all thousand of you will scream that Jeter should be DFA because he GIDP, has no heart, has no range etc… he hit the ball on the nose – at someone. maybe all of you immortals can direct the ball exactly where you want it to.
this is wishful thinking here but abreu the other guy and nady are due up this inning. anyone sensing another xavier 3 run homerun
“Colossal failure?” Dude, he’s having a down year but that’s a little extreme. When was A-Rod’s last big hit?
To call Jeter a moron and say that he sucks is one thing I won’t do. But once again, he is not clutch anymore, and is declining worse than the housing market before our very eyes. Sad to watch.
Bad pitching continues to beat “good” hitting with this team. Just wait and see what the leaky Texas bullpen does to this monster Yankee offense.
laura learn baseball. jeter can also hit a 3 and 2 ball hard, YOU TAKE THAT PITCH.. THE PITCHER COULD NOT FIND THE PLATE UNLESS YOUR EYES DO NOT WORK..
F_CK..
JETER is a moron…….
I wish George was still around.
Because Girardi wouldn’t be…
Or Kevin Long
Or Bobby Meacham
Who am I missing?
CB, to answer other parts of your questions, no, he’s not overly patient and the swing, doesn’t seem that long…it’s quick, and his strikeouts aren’t overly alarming. At age 20 (21 in September), it’s hard to find anything not to like. There’s not much blocking his upward movement in the system, so, maybe he moves fast. Really wish he was a left handed bat or a switch hitter. Most of the big bats are right handed, now, except for Hillingoss and Fortenberry. Hilligoss has been disappointing, but, also hurt a lot this year. Fortenbery is starting to hit much better now, though. Good power, outstanding base runner and plays all three outfield spots well. A bit quick tempered, but, mostly with himself (Paul O’Neill?).
He hit the ball hard. *&@&@&@#^%#^%$
That is a 2 run single if it is even 3 feet to either side of Kinsler.
We are more unlucky than we are bad lately. That is the most frustrating part. We should have won last night if Hamilton didn’t make that awkward, potentially career ending injury beckoning, catch in center field.
Abreu, Alex, and Nady looks really, really good for next inning though. No more weak batters in the lineup, either. No need to worry about Molina or Christian.
But yeah, Pete, why the heck didn’t Pudge pinch hit? Who knows what could have happened.
both TB and Sox winning. gonna fall further back
I think Joe hit Melky because he is already thinking about next year. They seem to think Melky is going to develop into more than he is now. I have always been a Melky supporter but it has been too slow and painful and I’m about to bail on him.
“he hit a line drive. cant ask for anything more”
yes you can—one more pitch when the guy can’t throw strikes. you can ask for one more pitch
Okay, I can see that our bad turn of events is wrecking havoc on your minds. These anti-Jeter posts are ridiculous. Yes, he is the King of DPs. But to all of a sudden forget the great things he’s done since he’s been a Yankee is unfair.
Are you guys real Yankee fans because you certainly don’t sound like it tonight?
nothing like stuart raging about millionaires failing. he should really be a rays fan
I am always in favor of taking more balls.
Old Timers Day 2010:
Michael Kay – say hello to our latest ‘old timer’ Derek Jeter!
This Byrd moron is no where near as good as the Yankees are making him out to be…
again if king captain got out that is OK.. YOU TAKE taht pitch the pitcher could not find the plate.. Jeter is up 3 and 1 in the count after check swinging at the 4th ball.. and you swing????
DO you people know anything about baseball?????
LEt the other team lose…………..
This lineup?
Damon
Nady
Abreu
ARod
Giambi
Jeter
Cano
Pudge
CF
John…baseball is not always about luck. The Yankees stink today. If baseball were about luck and skill had nothing to do with it…I might just have a shot at being an Al MVP myself then.
On a side note: could anyone please make a case for Girardi for me? As much as I loathe the guy…I need to believe in him in order to believe in this season. Make a case for him people…I’d love to see you try.
Trivia Question:
How many chins does Melky sport on his Yahoo MLB Profile Photo?
Answer: 2!
http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/.....2/7595.jpg
“So if Jeter hits a grand slam there, you guys would still be saying he’s an idiot b/c he should have taken another pitch.
LOL… Morons…”
Since you are apparently a genius, why don’t you go calculate the odds of Jeter being able to draw a walk with the count 3-1 with a pitcher who couldn’t throw strikes, or Derek Jeter being able to hit a grand slam.
A walk in that situation would have been all they needed. Keep the line moving.
wow i think pete’s right…pudge should have pinch hit for molina – giambi for christian…. the girardi era is not so encouraging…..
Melky will be gone by the trade deadline next season since there wont be a spot for him when ajax gets up here
Jeter has had the 2 worst at bats in this game, and of course nobody cares because he’s the “captain.” It wouldn’t matter if Jeter went 0-5 with 5 GIDP with the bases loaded and 1 out down a run, he’d be put right back into the 2 hole and given the praise of every idiot butt kissing fan of the team because of what he did 7 years ago.
Jeter has not done anything in a big spot in years, but everyone treats him like he’s the most clutch guy on the team still. Jeter is KILLING US in the 2 hole. To the point where if you swap Jeter and Cano, we will score MORE RUNS in a game.
Girardi is the stats man, but he never even uses them, and not only that, he has no “instinct” or sense of what to do with his players. The whole world but him seems to know what’s going to happen.
I could count at least 4-5 national league pitchers I would rather have seen come up and pinch hit versus Melky. Now that’s effin sad.
No one’s screaming for Jeter’s DFA.
What would be nice is to see him out of the two spot for a change. I realize that he is a virtual saint for the Yankees, but what Derek did in 96 and 98 and 00 doesn’t help us now.
stuart is a raging moron. Stop feeding him.
Common guys, that was a hitters count, he drilled it to the right side which is exactly what your looking for….Two feet either way and he’s a hero…..Man you guys…
Buzz
Cmon “Jeter, overated, overpaid,disgrace”
We could be talking about almost anyone on this team!!
def moron there is a difference between failing and being stupid…….
the yankees are stupid…….cano is stupid……….no plate disipline even a moron like you may be able to figure that out, can you??????????
stuart I couldn’t put it more perfect than you did on that post, the excuse is going to be well Jetes hit it hard !… it was 3-1 the GUY COULDN’T FIND HOMEPLATE AND THIS GUY TRIES TO PLAY HERO INSTEAD OF PASSING THE BATON
JUST COMPLETELY STUPID !!!
All players decline… Jeter is still a very good player having a down year.
Let me guess. Last off season you said Mussina was done. Don’t deny it. Your lack of baseball evaluation skills are self evident.
I’d like to have seen Jeter take a few more pitches, but he hit that hard, unfortunately straight at Kinsler. I don’t get having Melky pinch-hit, his at-bats are becoming a foregone conclusion.
well that was just anti-climatic. with two outs a walk and single.
I would have taken a walk, and DJ should have taken one.
i dont care if its hard hit, you gotta take a pitch stop trying to be the hero pass the platon abreu is up next… that was rookie move right there by jeter
daver,
YOu don’t move Jeter into the 6 hole. That’s actually a run producing, RBI spot. Jeter is best slated for the 9 hole, like in the beginning of his career. But with Melky wasting that spot, um I mean, taking that spot, Jeter won’t be moved anywhere. he will sit in the 2 hole all year.
Where is Jeter going to hit if you move him from 2??? You going to put Melky there? Cano?? Pudge??
Thank the Lord Girardi doesn’t listen to any of you.
Like they would insult Jeter like that by moving him down. How are you Yankee fans? Disgraces.
PAT m you are now in the stupid column.. How many strikes did Rupe throw??
You guys are really that stupid, it is shocking….You watch all the games but know nothing, TAKE THE PITCH.. AT 3 AND 2 THE HITTER STILL HAS THE ADVANTGE MORONS….
“Common guys, that was a hitters count, he drilled it to the right side which is exactly what your looking for….Two feet either way and he’s a hero…..Man you guys…”
Exactly, he was trying to be the hero instead of drawing the walk that the pitcher was dying to hand him. That’s baseball, you can hit the ball hard and make an out. You can’t walk and make an out (well technically you can, but not if you go one base).
Rupe’s splits against righties/lefties:
http://www.baseball-reference......;year=2008
at first i thought Melky pinch-hitting was bizarre, but the splits make me think Joe’s decision was reasonable.
Rupe’s career splits are similar BTW.
GB7,
Thanks for the report on Laird. When they got him last year I was sort of scratching my head looking to see what would cause him to fall to round 27 as his pedigree looked great.
I guess it was the combination of JC ball and Scott Boras.
He’s raked everywhere – some guys are just natural hitters. I’m hoping Laird is one of them.
Hopefull his contact rate increases with time. He’s striking out around 20% of his at bats – not good but not horrible for a power hitter.
If he hits in the Florida State league then the yankees really have something – especially if he hits for power.
The plethora of right handed bats in low A is a concern – but its also a good problem. Right handed bats are hard to find and there’s a real lack of them in baseball.
More balance would always be nice. But if you can find good right handed bats that’s a real asset.
Captain Clutch strikes again. Swung at ball 4 in that AB. Twice. Against a pitcher who couldn’t fine the plate.
Brandon. You are wrong and no amount of capital letters will change that. Jeter drilled that pitch.
Bad luck exists. That ball just as good a chance of landing as Rupe recovering his command and striking Jeter out.
Why are people no longer Yankee fans if they suggest that Jeter may not be a #2 hitter any longer? It’s like the argument that I’m not patriotic because I don’t support this current war, albeit, that is a more serious matter.
“So if Jeter hits a grand slam there, you guys would still be saying he’s an idiot b/c he should have taken another pitch.”
if my aunt had a …. she’d be my uncle.
what kind of retarded monkey argument is that? he swung at 3-1, with a guy that couldn’t find the plate. get off jeter’s wagon.
Brandon and stuart. Two morons in a pod.
if you get a ball you can hit hard, you hit it instead of taking the second strike and maybe not getting a pitch to hit the rest of the at bat.
it really amazes me how unloyal some of you are. a guy like jeter puts together a hall of fame career for us, earns the nicknames captain clutch and mr. november for his heroics in clutch situations while he plays a huge role in winning us 4 championships then the second he has a bad year you can’t wait to jump on him. you can say what you want about him as a player, he is a much better player than any of you are fans
Giardi trying to outsmart everyone bring in melky i rather have christian hit that was idiotic
Jeter? He’s got an Edge.
(You’re going to love the Vista roof on the new Edge…)
This is why Brian Bruney, with the bases loaded, is not a good mix. We’ll see if a rookie, Chris Davis, can do what DJ (our savior) could not.
And hard to believe, but the Rangers will keep piling on runs til the 9th, while we swing at first pitches from a third class bullpen. And now Bruney loads ‘em up!!!
Chris Davis is going to stick it in the gap.
Bullpen is so miserable.
“I don’t know if that would help the offense but it would sure scare the seagulls and bat racks.”
He was throwing at that bird wasn’t he? That guy was awesome. One of my all time favorites. I was one of the few pulling for him over Donnie that year. I know sacreligious but still.
“What would be nice is to see him out of the two spot for a change.”
And put him where? Everyone wants Jeter moved, but no one says where.
First? Nope, Damon is there.
Third? Abreu has that spot taken.
Fourth? Um, no.
Fifth behind A-Rod? Not a chance.
Sixth? Where do you put Nady or Giambi?
Seventh? Now, you’re getting insulting.
Need I go on? Where do you move Jeter and where do you put the guy he replaces? You guys think that you’re all better managers. Let me hear some ideas.
That’s good ol’ Bruney there.
The posts defending Jetes are the same morons that had that been Melky Cabrera, Robi Cano, Arod or Richie Sexson..YOU’D BE ALL OVER THEM !!! That 3-1 swing that Derek took shows not only a decline in discipline but a decline in baseball IQ !!! EVEN NOLAN RYAN WAS BIGHTING HIS NAILS KNOWING THERE WAS NO WAY HIS MRP WAS GOING TO THROW A STRIKE…JUST STUPIDITY…And w/ the best 2 out hitter W/ RISP IN MLB LEFT WATCHING
Anyone bashing Jeter right now should seriously check if they’re a Yankee fan.
Maybe he should have taken the pitch, in fact I think it wouln’t have been a bad idea. But it’s not like he swung at a ball in the dirt, or hit some dinky fly ball somewhere. He hit it on the screws, to the wrong spot.
Maybe it’s not worth anything to some of you, but Jeter’s been the cornerstone of this franchise since 1996. Stop being so fickle and giving up on this team. If Jeter gets a hit after swingint at that pitch, these posts would look alot different.
Be Yankee fans.
And he is…game over.
are u kidding me GIARDI DUMBASS
Really doesn’t matter now GAME FREAKING OVER
well there goes the game. joe should be the manager of the year. he has some brillant moves
mother heffalumper!!
Brilliant guys. The guy throws 96 mph, and we get beate on a DOWN AND IN TO A LEFTY slider. Brilliant job.
If Pudge is not calling this game, fire whoever is doing so.
” UPDATE, 10:26 p.m.: I’m not following this. Pudge is the pinch runner and Melky is the pinch hitter?
Melky is hitting .250 against RHPs. Pudge is hitting .293. Also, he’s Pudge Rodriguez and hammered the ball in this park for 11 years.
UPDATE, 10:28 p.m.: And Melky pops to short. ”
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Pete, need I remind you that Girardi is a cursed idiot ?
clueless joe…only manager to let melky PH
Girardi still doesnt learn to manage a bench.
This hurts.
We used to beat up on Texas all the time and now we’ll be lucky to salvage a split.
This is not how you wanted 2008 to play out.
good night all
Chris Davis > DJ?
We’re going to have a top 15 pick in next year’s draft.
how are all the bottom of the order guys KILLING us – esp after 2 freaking quick outs
We all got fooled by how good this bullpen was in June and July.
We were one of those fraud teams that think they’re close when they really aren’t.
This isn’t a good team. We are seeing that now. We lack good starting pitching. We lack power.
Sad to see.
good to see the old Brian Bruney is back!
Putting Bruney in was stupid. Robertson was dominating. Sure, he walked one guy and allowed a hit to a good, solid lefty.
Brandon and stuart. Two morons in a pod.
R23 a Jeter jockstrap
why would bruney be brought in after 1.1 innings last night???
Guess the Wildcard is in our future.Hopefully the Yankees can get Freddy Garcia.These kids are good….but they still have alot to learn.
CB, that one’s on me and maybe you. I didn’t get my “I’m a Bruney Believer” button on in time. I forgot until it was too late!
and another beating at the hands of a team that could easily finish with 90 losses this year……say it with me….WE STINK !.,….Good Night, fellow gluttons for punishment….see ya the next time our team want to punish us with their crappy on field performances…..C YA !
grumble grumble grumble
gripe gripe gripe gripe gripe
B & moan B & moan B & moan B & moan B & moan
off to bed. >:-(
“Like they would insult Jeter like that by moving him down. How are you Yankee fans? Disgraces”
That’s the attitude, and a sure fire way to keep on losing.
That Chris Davis will be a serious bat for a long time. He K’s some, but he can seriously rake.
Jeter has 6 HR’s he has 1 grand slam for his career so I doubt he would hit a granny.. since he rarely hits the ball out of the infield I doubt you can hit a ground ball grand slam..
aagain fools who know nothing of baseball you take the 3 and 1 pitch when the guy is pitching atthe same time he is pissing in his pants and cannot find home plate but you guys are really that stupid that you cannot see that.
Peter with the snide comments how about one about the captain and his cluthc ab when he did not walk after he got 4 straight balls.. that is hard to do but this yankee crew with the likes of jeter, cano, and melky , betemit,can accomplish it..
shocking a pitcher with the bases loaded implodes, when you do not help him out!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHAT A CONCEPT, LWT THE PISSING IN HIS PAINTS PITCHER IMPLODE….NO WAY
How bad has this team been since Farnsworth left?
Never thought I’d say that.
Did I mention this hour that I hate Texas
Jeter had a good at bat. Unfortunately that was one of the 7 times out of 10 that the ball doesn’t fall for a good hitter.
He worked the count until it was in his favor and then hit the ball very hard the other way.
In other words – he did pretty much what he’s done to build a hall of fame career around.
It was the seventh inning and two outs. The yankees only had 7 outs in the whole game to score 3 runs.
When you’re down by 3 and only have 7 outs – that’s not “pass the baton” time.
That’s the time to try to drive the ball and plate 2 runs.
A player works the count in his favor and hits the ball very hard.
That’s a good at bat.
Jeter took a good swing and hit it hard. just happened to be lined right at someone. it’s insane to criticize Jeter for that. it’s how baseball goes sometimes.
yankees are a joke can’t even beat the texas rangers any one who thinks the yankees will make the play offs are out of their minds. yankees stink. there a joke. don’t only blame jeter..i blame him a rod melky ponson rasner pettite posada marte yankees stink..sign texeria or cc then they will change my mind yankees are done there old bums and young kids who stink yankees stink
“Where is Jeter going to hit if you move him from 2??? You going to put Melky there? Cano?? Pudge??
Thank the Lord Girardi doesn’t listen to any of you.
Like they would insult Jeter like that by moving him down. How are you Yankee fans? Disgraces.”
Answer me this. What make’s Derek Jeter a #2 this year?
Think about it.
The only insult is that Joe Girardi cares more about feelings than about winning.
How can they not be embarrassed by this performance. i would be ashamed to walk off the field after a pitiful performance, such as this one.
now that im sick to my stomach, i am going to make dinner and pout a little.. have a nice night all…cant wait to do it again tomorrow…
The only thing you could do to get Jeter out of the 2 spot would be
Damon
Abreu
A-Rod
Giambi
Nady
Jeter
Cano
Pudge
Melky
That line-up lacks balance though. Not sure I like it, but it seems to be the only real alternative.
one strikeout too late.
Can anyone even remotly TRY to make a case for Girardi? That would be funny…and I could use some comedy.
Send Bruney back to the minors. I’d honestly rather see Pavano in relief.
well this is the perfect time for a meaningless homerun from arod
offense is a disgrace… something has to change fire long bring back willie as hitting coach
Brandon,
Maybe we can trade Jeter for Jeff Keppinger.
UPDATE, 10:26 p.m.: I’m not following this. Pudge is the pinch runner and Melky is the pinch hitter?
Wait I didn’t catch that. Wow. That is very bizarro Jerry. Sometimes I don’t know about Girardi. Has the lefty-righty matchup that he absolutely lives by been working for him so far?
I see that no one has answered my post about where to move Jeter. I’m still waiting to hear these brilliant ideas.
“Anyone bashing Jeter right now should seriously check if they’re a Yankee fan.
Maybe he should have taken the pitch, in fact I think it wouln’t have been a bad idea. But it’s not like he swung at a ball in the dirt, or hit some dinky fly ball somewhere. He hit it on the screws, to the wrong spot.
Maybe it’s not worth anything to some of you, but Jeter’s been the cornerstone of this franchise since 1996. Stop being so fickle and giving up on this team. If Jeter gets a hit after swingint at that pitch, these posts would look alot different.
Be Yankee fans.”
Wow. just wow!
“Answer me this. What make’s Derek Jeter a #2 this year? ”
His jersey…
Chins up, everyone – we face the immortal Tommy Hunter tomorrow night – he of the 10+ ERA. We’re going to bang him up, then Moose will give us 6 2/3 solid for a chance to split.
Stay positive, people. Don’t look at the standings day-to-day – it’s useless.
Look at’em in bunches of 10.
We have about 5 of these game bunches left – after tonight, looks like we just have to be 4 games better than Boston. That’s less than 1 game better than them for each 10 game swing.
i wonder if they can be embarrassed enough to bring them out of this slump…if so, i hope the Rangers continue pouring it on.
Wow. You’ve got to hope this is just a rough stretch for the pen. But if our starters don’t get their act together, I don’t see this improving.
It shows how desperate Girardi is that he uses Bruney three games in a row after he’s been out for months with an injury. He just doesn’t have any options. Edwar’s burnt, Marte’s burnt, you don’t use Mo in the 7th, and Veras seems to be unavailable.
So, armchair managers, who should have been brought in, if not Bruney?
Just coming back quickly to update my forecast of this roadtrip: 1 win, 9 losses. Swept by Texas, Halos and take 1 from Minn.
Time to start looking forward to your Jets or Giants, boys and girls. No playoffs for Yankees
I call meaningless homer by Arod top of the eigth!
I thought Girardi was doing wonders with bullpen management?????
No????
I said Mattingly would have been better and God knows he wouldn’t be making these mistakes.
Now that Girardi finally gets a lefty reliever he burns him out giving up 3 BBS and a walk-off hR to a right-hander. So that he can’t face a lefty tonight with the bases loaded. I get it.
if u blame arod for not situational hitting you gotta blame jeter
“I call meaningless homer by Arod top of the eigth!”
The easiest call of the night.
I understand and respect everything Derek Jeter has done for the Yankees, but you can’t manage / run a team based on sentimentality. I agree that it may be time to bump Jeter out of the #2 slot, maybe put Nady in for a bit, see how it works out.
hahah we just got another bad call. they just seem to be pouring in
of the Ranger’s runs, how many were off walks? this whole get two quick outs then give up a multiple run bomb has been a disease for the last week or so…
Brandon,
Maybe we can trade Jeter for Jeff Keppinger.
IDK how to respond to this one, but what can I expect when I’m writing responses to Jeter’s jockstrap
“So, armchair managers, who should have been brought in, if not Bruney?”
Wilson Betemit!
Leonardo longevity an previosu suces does not give you a lifetime free pass.
JETER DOES NOT DESERVE A LIFETIME FREE PASS. The guy makes $19 mill a yr. and yes i epect him to use his mind along with his body.
The apologists for bad baseball and mostly stupid baseball are fools…
Keep are allowing stupid baseball ask Pirate fans how that works out???????
Jeter blew the game.. Yes I said that.. That AB was a total mental meltdown…It changed everything.. 3 nd 2 he is still alowed to stay at the plate so stop with the moronic rationalization.. the ywould have had CJ wild thing coming up with Abreu at the plate……
“Can anyone even remotly TRY to make a case for Girardi? That would be funny…and I could use some comedy.”
…Hmmmm
I don’t know:
A plague of injuries to key players.
Three lousy starts in a row to tax the bullpen and force him to get more innings out of guys that aren’t capable of it.
And an underperforming offense.
Oh yeah, and it’s his second year of managing.
There, that wasn’t that hard.
Laura,
looking at 09, because 08 is gone (no playoffs) and therefore no need to change the lineup. I would put him in the 3rd spot. If all goes well, Cashman will ditch Giambi, Abreu and all the assorted dead weight in the team
L# Laura – X marks the spot! August 5th, 2008 at 10:56 pm
I see that no one has answered my post about where to move Jeter. I’m still waiting to hear these brilliant ideas.
You can’t talk sports with women. That’s why guys talk sports. To not to talk to them.
uhoh a little action perhaps
“I call meaningless homer by Arod top of the eigth!â€
The easiest call of the night.
_________________________________________
I believe Jeter and GIDP would be the easiest call on any given night
I don’t get this. Trading Farnsworth may be a wise move to get Pudge. But the Bullpen was one of the best in the MLB when had Krazy. The Bullpen was very settled. Everybody had their roles. You just don’t disturb something that is working for you. Do u hear this Cash? You don’t kill the Goose that lays golden eggs. That’s what exactly u did Cash.
No prob, the tie run is now on triple deck.
can we bat jeter leadoff and damon 2nd…
Imagine some of you guys were saying taking 3 out of 4 was a must before the series started.
cb
“Jeter had a good at bat. Unfortunately that was one of the 7 times out of 10 that the ball doesn’t fall for a good hitter.
He worked the count until it was in his favor and then hit the ball very hard the other way.
In other words – he did pretty much what he’s done to build a hall of fame career around.
It was the seventh inning and two outs. The yankees only had 7 outs in the whole game to score 3 runs.
When you’re down by 3 and only have 7 outs – that’s not “pass the baton†time.
That’s the time to try to drive the ball and plate 2 runs.
A player works the count in his favor and hits the ball very hard.
That’s a good at bat.”
I agree………right after he was sure he couldn’t find the strike zone.
DAmmit THROW A PUNCH NEXT TIME !
Just for the fun of it I Googled “Ford Edge” and found that sales for the car fell 6.5 % last month.
You know, I avoid this blog when the Yankees are losing badly, and then I give in when I want to talk about something. Then I read the spoiled and entitled apocalyptic crap that people spew, and I regret it.
Here’s a few things Yankee fans need to realize now, rather than later…
1) Derek Jeter isn’t what he used to be, he seems to have lost all discipline he ever had at the plate. He swings at the first pitch very frequently, and he swings on a 3-1 pitch against a pitcher that had thrown 3 strikes to the previous 3 batters, walking 2 of them. He lines out. Great discipline, he’s supposed to know better.
2) Joe Girardi doesn’t know how to manage situationally. Who uses Melky Cabrera as a pinch hitter? Does he not realize he’s batting just above .240? If you want to pinch run for Giambi, that’s fine, use Cabrera. If you want to pinch hit for Christian, fine, use Pudge there, not as a runner. Then make Melky the CF and Pudge the C. Also, he didn’t manage the game last night very well at all.
Be careful CB, you may find yourself in Stuart’s stupid column along side me…….Jter had the perfect pitch to drive to right…..Oh well…..
“I see that no one has answered my post about where to move Jeter. I’m still waiting to hear these brilliant ideas.”
He hits #7 or lower until he gets out of his funk.
He’s not helping the team in #2 spot.
this idiot announcer is talking about the yankees crying over a strike when he wouldn’t quit crying last night over Giambi’s ‘supposed strike’.
Glad Bruney choked there.
6 runs is a lot easier than 3.
“I don’t get this. Trading Farnsworth may be a wise move to get Pudge. But the Bullpen was one of the best in the MLB when had Krazy. The Bullpen was very settled. Everybody had their roles. You just don’t disturb something that is working for you. Do u hear this Cash? You don’t kill the Goose that lays golden eggs. That’s what exactly u did Cash.”
Do you pay any attention to baseball? Farnsworth’s been lit up like a Christmas tree since he left. It was only a matter of time before his homerific tendencies resulted in an implosion.
I really hope that the Yanks don’t bring Joba back this season even if the injury isn’t serious. This team is done..stick a fork in them. They have zero pitching and close to zero hitting. Pettitte has been a disgrace…I am very disappointed in him. The hitting hasn’t shown up all season. Jeter took the year off and Arod is an absolute head case ever since the divorce.
We need the miracle of all miracles
“can we bat jeter leadoff and damon 2nd…”
Yes.
CB, it’s my pleasure. I’m no scout, but, talent is fairly easy to spot…right now. Whether Laird continues to improve is anybody’s guess, but, it won’t be for the lack of effort. The same with Suttle and Montero. Angelini has had flashes of briiiance, but, some really bad hacks. A lot of similarites with him and a very young Jeter….especially on defense. This team is pretty bad on defense, but, then, they pull off some amazing plays, so, I’d contribute that to youthful inexperience.
“You can’t talk sports with women. That’s why guys talk sports. To not to talk to them.”
Dude, I guarantee you I know a thing or two more about certain sports than some men. I play three…
This offense is dead weight.
Jeter hit a bullet. I have no idea how how you are blaming Jeter for not walking.
A few feet to either side, and it’s a two-run single.
It’s bad luck. Get over it.
can giardi get thrown out? stop acting like torre
“He hits #7 or lower until he gets out of his funk. ”
You are forgetting how huge men’s egos are, especially those who are highly paid athletes. No way Girardi does that to Jeter.
“Funny, isn’t it, how we can never get calls from umpires in big spots?”
Matt – you have unmaked the conspiracy. Now if you could only get video of the grounds crew moving the fences between innings to a distance that is unreachable for the Yankees.
you know these pitches inside are getting tiresome I’m predicting a brawl soon
“Just for the fun of it I Googled “Ford Edge†and found that sales for the car fell 6.5 % last month.”
That has nothing to do with Jeter. Have you seen that car? It’s butt ugly and probably cost $60 to fill up.
Robbie’s walked three times in a game?
Now I know something’s really not right.
“Pettitte has been a disgrace…I am very disappointed in him. ”
If you expected better than what he’s been, you are obviously new to being a Yankees fan. Pettitte, for all his successes, was inconsistent as hell in his prime. He’s now 35 with past elbow problems. He’s not an ace, in any universe.
A-Rod a headcase? I suppose…he only hit .337/.413/.621. Shame on him.
SEXY SLAM!!!!!!!!!
OMG SEXSON!!!!
wow burney good job GIARDI I HATE U!
….
Yep.
….
holy cow, SEXON DID SOMETHING!!!!!!!
SONOFA! NOW YOU DO !!! ARGHHHH !!!
That homerun would actually mean something if Bruney wasnt batting practice.
“Matt – you have unmaked the conspiracy. Now if you could only get video of the grounds crew moving the fences between innings to a distance that is unreachable for the Yankees.”
I LOLed.
LOL at Big Sexy. We’ll still lose this game though, because this team is such a tease.
Yeah and now the Bruney inning doesn’t feel so good.
Cano 3 walks- Sexson grand slam!
And yet they most likely will lose. Strange days are upon us.
Please don’t go back and think about the Bruney debacle or the Melky at-bat. Really, you’ll just be torturing yourself.
Jeter you lost ur edge
we better win…if not all this means is more trust in Sexson which is baddddddd
Now this game might really hurt. A blow out doesn’t hurt as much as coming close and knowing some crummy relief pitching lost you the game.
haha that was a girardi move!!!! leave him in longer
wow and I was hoping he’d just K lol
I believe in miracles!!!
Matt – thank God they forgot to move the fences back before the Yankees hit!
Cano took a 3 and 1 pitch.. CANO did it with a pitcher who was wild but KING DEREK cannot when the pitcher cannpt find the strike zone.
YOU PEOPLE ARE MORONS…
Jeter can swing at the pitch IF THE PITCHER IS PITCHING WELL AND NOT ALL OVER THE PLACE. That is the big if you morons…
I think something clicked for Richie.
Double, then a HR (Grand Slam at that)?
Hey! Stuff it rollovers. We just might have a game here
Yankees: RIP 8/5/08. Thanks for playing!
big sexy!
The game isn’t over yet.
Who the hell was supposed to pitch you morons? Who?
Are you available? Perhaps you can break 60 mph with your fastballs.
When you have no options, you have to take big risks. Bruney is making his way back from months of not pitching. His struggles are to be expected.
Robertson is a one-inning guy. But Girardi had to stretch him because Pettitte went five lousy innings.
WOW WHY EVEN HIT THAT GRAND SLAM…. IF THEY LOSE I WILL BE MORE PISS
WE BRINGING SEXY BACK BABY!!!!!!!!!
Bruney killing us. Jesus.
If every other batter on the team was hitting the way Jeter has all season they would NEVER be batting 2nd. NEVER!! Even Torre moved Arod down to 8th in the playoffs. If Arod can be moved then why cant the golden boy??!!! It is absolutely disgusting and playing favorites. He doesn’t deserve to be batting there and has killed 1m rallies. He has been dreadful!!! Zero patience at the plate.
Sexton didn’t wait for a call strike after walks….He just drilled a bp fastball…Stuart’s stupid column
“You are forgetting how huge men’s egos are, especially those who are highly paid athletes. No way Girardi does that to Jeter.”
Are you kidding me? That is not a good enough reason. Just because he’s captain doesn’t mean he gets a free pass when he’s not hitting.
Everyone gets moved around, he is no different. Torre moved him around a few times too. It’s not like he’s been sitting in #2 since birth.
a) I think Jeter had a good at bat
b) I realize he isn’t the player he used to be. By vorp he’s the 12th best ss in the league this year, which still puts him solidly above average (vorp is 21.5) but nowhere near the type of player he used to be. and realizing that is one thing, but coming on here and bashing him like he’s alex cora is a different thing. I think anyone with that type of fickle, unloyal, unsupportive behavior is a bad fan.
Pudge has done nothing for the yankees…
How much you guys wanna bet that’s the last runs we score tonight…
Too little too late.
Pettite “He’s not an ace, in any universe.”
Actually he is. In our bizarro Yankee Universe.
For the record, I have no idea what Joe was thinking when he pinch-hit Melky and pinch-ran Pudge. That made no sense. Sometimes I scratch my head too.
But putting unproven guys in new and bigger spots is how he built this bullpen in the first place. But sometimes it doesn’t work. You have to live with that.
JETER FOR LEADOFF
I’m too Sexson for this heat!
Let’s go, Yankees! Redeem yourself Melkman
GASbag, why don’t you give up the “I’m a Yankee fan” BS? Nobody’s buying it.
“YOU PEOPLE ARE MORONS…”
It takes one to know one.
Pat M,
I like the Higashioka draft/signing. The team has a very promising group of young catchers. To add to that another solid receiver who can hit for power is great.
Montero, Romine, Higiashi, Cerevelli and even Pilitiere in AA I think could make a nice backup catcher.
Decent chance one will develop to replace Posada. If a couple of them do the team will could be in a position similar to texas and their three good catchers – nice trade chip that will bring back a lot of value.
I think by now I’ve moved over to your side of the column BTW
This season is slipping away….there was some good feelings taking two from LA, but they gave us that last game with thosae ridiculous errors. Next season with the payroll coming off, the first two moves are to get CC Sabathia, and Texiera. That way the rotation lines up as CC, Wang, Chamberlain, Hughes, Kennedy. We have Nady in right, Damon/Christian in left. We need a CF who can hit. Matsui will DH. I would consider bringing Pudge back at the right price, as insurance for Jorge. But this is who can go, Abreu, Giambi, Pettitte, Sexon, Ponson, Marte, Cabrera, & Mussina (If he wants more than a one year deal with a team option).
does anyone ever get to the source of this hapless team ??If the Yanks don’t let Brian Cashman walk at the end of the year, they’ll be stuck on this treadmill forever. It’s because, he has never assembled a pitching staff like his predecessors in the mid 90′s. You win with pitching and that means you have to know how to evaluate pitching talent. He has consistently brought in the wrong guy at the wrong price. People are applauding him at the trade deadline and he didn’t address their biggest need…starting pitching and he traded starting pitching prospects for secondary needs. As for Jeter hitting 2nd, he shouldn’t be and Melkbone shouldn’t be a starting Center Fielder. They just don’t have anyone better. Cash money is like Bush, an embarresement who has left the franchise(country), in a hole that will take a long time to recover.
What hurts more than losing in 9 innings is losing in extra extra innings in 100 degree weather?
Does Melky looked flat footed when he swings…Very little stride or weight shift…..
“WOW WHY EVEN HIT THAT GRAND SLAM…. IF THEY LOSE I WILL BE MORE PISS”
Could you be more of a puddle of piss?
Seriously, though, making you happy is why the Yankees play the game. They’d be horrified if they knew.
“i had to log in from vacation just to say this: Jeter sucks.”
Wow. Doesn’t get more pitiful than posting something like that.
there isn’t a worse player than melky
MELKY gotta be the worst CF in the A.L
bring gardner back up, i know he didn’t look very good last time but if he can put down a few bunts that’s atleast better than the melkman
Wow, he didn’t swing.
while Bruney’s 3 run homer did indeed hurt, let’s not forget Pettitte’s 5 run disappointment…
Great! even if damon makes an out jeter would lead off the ninth
Nick in SF
August 5th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
No prob, the tie run is now on triple deck.
Can we have another miracle please?
Damon needs to get it done right here, wouldn’t want to leave it up to Jeter.
Um, that wasn’t a strike. And Melky…HELLO?
“Are you kidding me? That is not a good enough reason. Just because he’s captain doesn’t mean he gets a free pass when he’s not hitting.”
I didn’t say that was a good enough reason, but it is the reason. You guys are living in some fantasy world if you think that the Yankees are going to insult Jeter by moving him down to 7th. It ain’t going to happen. Like it or not, Jeter is the face of the Yankees. He is one of the few relics left over from the dynasty.
If he moves anywhere (next year that is), it’s down to 3rd, but that’s not happening if they keep Abreu.
For just a second there….
“A-Rod a headcase? I suppose…he only hit .337/.413/.621. Shame on him.”
He has to be hitting the worst .337 I have seen. Most of it is stat padding and not when they are needed. .250 with RISP says it all!!! He has been awful recently.
I thought that was gone for sure. Damnit.
Not over yet. Heart of the order in the 9th.
Freaking CO** TEASE team !
Abreu walks.
ARod gets hit by a pitch.
Even Cano walks.
Wilson clearly has not control at all. None.
What does Sexson do? He only sees 2 pitches that at bat! Only two.
He doesn’t even bother to take a ball and draw a walk.
What an idiot. He missed his golden opportunity to pass the baton on a pitcher who had nothing.
HE IS A MORON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
well we have jeter abreu and that other guy due up providing we keep it at 2 runs
Did anyone see the masked groundskeepers who quickly moved the fence back there so Damon’s flyball would be caught, and then vanished in a puff of smoke before they could be seen?
““A-Rod a headcase? I suppose…he only hit .337/.413/.621. Shame on him.â€
He has to be hitting the worst .337 I have seen. Most of it is stat padding and not when they are needed. .250 with RISP says it all!!! He has been awful recently.”
Those are his number during July, when most of his personal problems took place.
Jeter is not known for hitting home runs.
Sexson can occasionally bomb one.
Pat you are real shrewD.. NEWSFLASH MORON JETER HAS 1 GRAND SLAM IN 13 YEARS.
AGAIN 1 GRAND SLAM IN 13 YEARS PROBABLY 2000 GAMES…
SEE PAT YOU PEANUT BRAIN CANNOT TELL THE DIFFERENCE IN POWER between Sexson and JEter.. Sexson stinks but still has 12 HR’s for the year and has hit 4- + 2 times.. Can you little mind understand variables and that the world is grey not black and white..
If you little mind cannot understand that I spologize but please do not won a gun or drove a car…
There’s actually some good company over here CB…….
Don’t give up on Melky. He is a great defensive player and his hitting will pick up. He is a future all star.
CB, SJ, Pat or anyone else.
Honest question here, what’s the difference between WARP and VORP? Are they different names for the same thing? Or are they calculated in different ways? I’ve always wondered that.
Haha CB.
That hit by Damon might have had a chance to go out if they had turned on the wind machine that puts all Ranger fly balls in the seats…..
He has to be hitting the worst .337 I have seen. Most of it is stat padding and not when they are needed. .250 with RISP says it all!!! He has been awful recently.
Considering the rest of the offense has been less than productive – Arod is doing what he can to produce – meaning swinging for the seats – elongating his swing and expanding his strike zone to make up for the offense that has been nothing but lacking.
I think this is just timing and coincidence but our bullpen has been super shaky since Farnsworth left. please somebody tell me this is true because I think I miss him. Could be wrong.
Honestly, four years ago, would anyone yell at Jeter for hitting a bullet at an infielder?
He hit the ball hard. That’s his job.
And here’s Veras. Well, given his command issues, I can see why Girardi went with Bruney. Still questionable, but it could have worked. Unfortunately it didn’t.
Isn’t WARP for pitchers and VORP for position guys?
Jeter is not known for hitting home runs.
Sexson can occasionally bomb one.
I was just about to write that to CB, Jetes less HR prone, he is there to pass the baton, Sexson is here because he can mash LHP..just like we saw. If Sexson doesn’t mash LHP then he here for the wrong reason.
“I think this is just timing and coincidence but our bullpen has been super shaky since Farnsworth left. please somebody tell me this is true because I think I miss him. Could be wrong.”
For what its worth, Farnworth has been awful too.
CB, you’re right about this crop of young catchers. I was hoping that Jose Gil’s power would continue developing, but, it’s sort of stalled this year, but, his defense has improved (he’s 21) during his time in Tampa. Anson’s offense is down this year, and his defense hasn’t improved much at all. Haven’t seen Weems or Jeff Nutt play, yet.
Angel:
I saw the puff of smoke but I thought that was the red hot Yankee bullpen bursting into flames behind the outfield wall.
Don’t worry we’ll hit one of ya tomorrow
Hamilton = Classy.
Hey, maybe somebody knows how to throw at a guy on this team?
Back, not the head, dudes. Watch Veras.
Joba, take your time getting healthy. No sense rushing back to help save this steaming turd of a team.
“Isn’t WARP for pitchers and VORP for position guys?”
Wins, and Value, different metrics entirely. Both can be used for pitchers or position players.
This is encouraging. We need Veras to get back into a groove if we’re going to pull the pen out of this slump.
I’m an agnostic so you can take this for what it’s worth.
I had a vision from the Baseball Gods.
If Jeter or Abreu get on base, A-Rod is going YARD!
Pat M
I’m enjoying life on your side of the border! Life if good on this side.
Veras, getting the job done.
“Honestly, four years ago, would anyone yell at Jeter for hitting a bullet at an infielder?”
Not a chance. This is what happens when fans get spoiled and think that their team is supposed to win every year. Eight years is apparently a long time to go w/o winning a WS. I remember back in the 80′s and early 90′s when we didn’t win anything. I have a feeling that a lot of the people who post here are post ’95 fans.
“I’m an agnostic so you can take this for what it’s worth.
I had a vision from the Baseball Gods.
If Jeter or Abreu get on base, A-Rod is going YARD!”
You are NOT agnostic. you are a jew.
Well, its easy to confuse, JR.
Thats part of their deception!
Re-arranging of the furniture?
Didn’t need to hear that, Coney.
lol does Guardado do that every time he comes in?
I said that because you used to talk about not being able to use the computer on Saturday.
I am SO sick of these Rangers announchers.
swing jetes swinnnnnnng batta batta batta
oh finally you took one.
Well, there’s a good start.
*announcers
Can they get 2 runs or more please. Please?
I’m an agnostic AND a half-Jew, Z-Mills. Mom was born a lapsed Episcoplalian.
“I am SO sick of these Rangers announchers.”
You’ve probably got two more nights of these fools.
It’s going to come down to our 3, 4 and 5…They need to make it happen !
haha oh man david cone “rearranging the furniture”
Bobby gets on.
Arod hits one to the track and Jeter gets doubled off 2nd and Bobby tripled off 1st.
Good memory, Z-Mills, that was Pesach at my dad’s family’s house. They’re very religious.
Ok, been trying to follow the game at work. But I am curious. If you know your team does not have the heart, talent, pitching, or hitting to make the playoffs, why waste trading during the middle of the season for rentals.
I just don’t get it. This is the most heartless pathetic display of a Yankees team since 1990. There is absolutely no fire with this team. Girardi is just horrible as a manager.
Cashman needs to have a talk with the team and say, ” Jeter, you suck this year. Get healthy and come back next year. Bobby, you are gone after this year so we will try to trade you. Andy, you couldn’t throw a strike if you were standing on home plate. Thank you for your service but you are of no value any longer. ARod, we owe you too much money to do anything but seriously, you need to decide if you are going to be a baseball player or a prima donna. Get rid of the Golden thong you stole from Giambi and act like a man. Damon, Giambi, Cabrera, Cano – we will see if we can get some decent AA players for you. As of now, you have no value to us because none of you even understand what it means to be a Yankee. Rasner, Ponson, you are what you are and we thank you for at least trying.
Last but not least, Joe, you were suppose to move this team in the right direction. As of now, you have set us back to 2002 when Torre lost control of this team. You have one year to learn how to manage like a big boy otherwise, YES will take you back.
Have a good night gentlemen and try not to completely embarrass yourself by getting swept by Texas.
HORRIBLE umpires.
That was the same freaking pitch! UGH
That’s not a strike. But it’s too close to take.
Are you KIDDING ME? That pitch was further outside than the pitch before it that was called a ball!
Umpires. You deny that they matter, they certainly just took away a HUGE walk from us in the 9th inning with no outs.
“Good memory, Z-Mills, that was Pesach at my dad’s family’s house. They’re very religious”
That why I clarified. After a second read my original post might have sounded a little offensive. Didn’t mean for it to come out that way.
Alex, please go yard.
“what’s the difference between WARP and VORP? Are they different names for the same thing?”
They are different. VORP only takes offensive production into consideration. WARP is basically VORP plus defense factored in.
WARP is a more useful idea but VORP is a much more reliable/ better stat.
VORP is generally a useful stat. WARP is very limited. Baseball Prospectus’s system for measuring defense is not very good – rather than using play by play data they use aggregated defensive stats. It’s just not nearly as accurate as other ways of measuring defense – it’s a very old method. There’s also some other limitations to it.
Hey A-Rod, you’re our best power hitter. Why are you taking a 1-0 fastball RIGHT DOWN THE MIDDLE as the tying run?
Guardado is getting incredibly lucky. If A-Rod or Abreu center one of those cookies, it’s a tie game.
I think Laird got hit in his…you know…
can anyone with HDTV tell me if ARod is starting to grow a mustache ?
They’re just awful, Laura.
I turned them off for a while, but then I couldn’t really tell what was going on. I got YES last night.
I might even prefer ESPN tomorrow night to these idiots.
No problem, Z.
Whiff -
Get back to work.
Ugh. UGH!
MOTHEREF0WEJFIWNEVUIUWBDV9OINWE0IGNWIERNGwsRG
well that was a perfect poetic ending for the night…
WHY DOES HE INSIST ON TRYING TO PULL EVERY SINGLE F-ING PITCH???
WHY WAS JETER NOT RUNNING, AT ALL, DURING TWO CONSECUTIVE ABS?!!!!!
A-Rod caught Jeter’s DP crap.
…
I think the Yankees ought to fine their players every time they GIDP.
Was that four in this game alone?
nice job a-rod
fitting end I suppose.
I can’t wait till they get out of Texas
“WHY DOES HE INSIST ON TRYING TO PULL EVERY SINGLE F-ING PITCH???
WHY WAS JETER NOT RUNNING, AT ALL, DURING TWO CONSECUTIVE ABS?!!!!!”
Forget kindergarten. You need to go back to nursery school.
honsetly did anyone expect anything diffrent from arod therte
Yet another one of those great at bats….Yanks should tell Afraud to go home until he gets his medicine and is mentally ready to contribute. He makes me absolutely sick!!!
What a disappointing way to end the game
funny jeter blowing a bubble while sliding
A-Rod beats the throw too. What a shock.
Missed the call on A-Rod preventing Nady from hitting who’s on fire. Missed the call on Abreu preventing us from having the tying run on base.
Texas acting like they won the world series. What a freaking disgrace they are. They beat the most embarrassing Yankees team since 93, they haven’t done anything special. The Yankees HANDED THEM this game.
This team is done. They have nothing. Their best hitter stands there taking 1-0 cookies as the tying run. They should have easily won 3/4 this series, and instead could lose 3/4 or get swept.
If they do not run off a HUGE winning streak ,they are DONE and BURIED.
A good team wins these 2 games. They would have been right at the top of the wild card if they could just win the games they have to. Instead, they are on the verge of dropping out of contention.
This team is a disgrace to the organization. $200 million and no heart in the last year of the stadium. What an embarrassment.
They are DONE ! First time in 15 years. D O N E !!
Yep A-Rod those 500 homeruns are all you have to say you are a great hitter.Go count your money.
Wildcard here we come.
I just picked up Matt Harrison and Eddie Guardado on my fantasy team.
To make room for them on my roster I dropped Pettitte and Arod.
so that’s what – 5 dp’s on the night…pretty damn close to that 6 record
Well, at least that was a fitting end of the game. It’s time to place the whole team on waivers and see who we can trade to a contender. I feel for Cash. That darn 8 game win streak fooled him into thinking they could contend. Should have been sellers.
Did the Texas just win the World Series? What was with all the excessive celebrations. People think Joba celebrates? Eddie just went crazy.
In good news, it looks like the Yankees took note of all celebrations by glaring at the Rangers from the dugout. Hopefully that will wake them up.
Gee what a surprise. The best player in the game up, against a guy who is quite average, and the game is on the line?? he does not deliver again.
If Sexson doesnt hit the Grand slam and its 8-2 Texas in the ninth, THAT would be Arods spot to hit the homer.
The key is to get Arod up in the 5+ or 5- rule. % runs up or 5 runs down, and hes your guy.
That is a fitting end to this game and maybe the 2008 Yankee season.
$300 million player vs. scrap heap garbage pitcher with the game o the line.
GIDP. Of. Course.
With a bad call by the first base umpire to boot.
Good riddance.
Ok, you proved your point, Girardi, now can you give them back their ice cream?
I shut this game off when it was 8-2. I see we have a chance at 8-6 and begin to watch again.
What a HORRIBLE mistake.
Bobby strikes out on a pitch that’s obviously outside and then Alex hits into his… 3rd? DP of the night.
Absolutely PATHETIC. I wish I wasn’t a fan and could enjoy my life instead of allowing the outcome of these games to affect my mood.
But unfortunately I love the Yankees and everything that happens affects my day.
I’m beginning to wish Alex had walked.
CB,
Thanks for the explanation. I’ve seen and heard both numbers thrown out and always wondered about the difference. Your explanation makes perfect sense, and given the unreliability of defensive numbers, I’d agree that VORP sounds like a more valueable number.
I hope they have time to include that in A-Rod’s Yankeeography.
“UPDATE, 11:29 p.m.: One way or another, it comes down to Alex. Always does.”
Unfortunately…
The play that lost the game today: Melky pinch-hitting with bases loaded, while Pudge pinch-runs… I’ve had it with Girardi…
I’m not going to be that forgiving here again it’s shades of the 2005 ALDS …I don’t know how much more of this he’s going to do for the next 10 years, seriously Alex ADJUST !
“So the Yankees think the Rangers purposely hit A-Rod to lead off the second inning and again hit him again on purpose with first base occupied in the eighth inning?”
Whether or not they hit A-Rod on purpose is irrelevant. The retaliation doesn’t imply that they think he was hit on purpose, it sends the message that if you’re going to throw inside, don’t miss. A-Rod got hit twice in the same game. If you can’t throw inside without hitting him, don’t throw inside. That’s the purpose of the pitch that hit Hamilton and that’s a necessary part of the game and will be for as long as pitching inside is (forever).
im glad that i have memories of the yankees when they were playing with fire and passion. although for the next 10 years i will have to watch game ending dp’s. how can you do that over and over again, not come through in the clutch.
ARod “Mr. Clutch”!!!
Yes sir, I want that man up to bat in the bottom of the ninth with the game on the line in the playoffs.
First ballot HOF, but worst clutch hitter in baseball.
BA
August 5th, 2008 at 11:33 pm
“can anyone with HDTV tell me if ARod is starting to grow a mustache ?”
Arod needs to worry about growing something else.
There be panic in the bronx. Brooklyn Bridge is packed with Yankee fans. Oh the mayhem!
its bad enough the yankees have to lose but does it make people here feel better when they write such negative comments?….reading these comments are worse than watching some of these games
Arod is a loser, plain and simple.
He’ll collect his stats, sure. But the guy is an absolute bust when needed.
You want the big homers early last year, fine?
You want the double off Nathan in the playoffs, fine.
You want the HR off Papelbon, fine.
Name me one more, please – go ahead.
Arod chokes, constantly. I am so pissed off right now.
Eddie Guardado gets Arod to bounce into a game-ending DP.
I’ll tell you what – Alex should hang that up with his trophies. Getting beat by Eddie Guardado.
What a loser.
Last night I hung the rope. Tonight I am standing on the stool. Tomorrow it might go around my neck!
Tonight’s Line:
“Pettitte,Bullpen, Clutch hitting, fail Yankees Again”
Girardi” That Matt Harrison really had his stuff working tonight.”
Pete how can you be so ignorant as to why things happen?
They take chances with ARod pitching into him and he gets hit. Its not an intentional hit, its an intentional risk to pitch into him. They took that risk continually today and hit him TWICE. Veras reminded them to not take risks with his hitters.
Do you understand yet???
WHY DOES THIS TEAM NOT HIT WHEN THE PITCHING IS GOING WELL, AND THE PITCHERS NOT PITCH WELL WHEN WE ARE SCORING RUNS????
classic ending.. thy have a lefty rasner throwing 86 or less and the Greatest player on the planet does his thing.
Interesting the King walked in the 9th, HUH… WOW..
An ugly loss in a season of ugly losses.. theis team is pathetic, the JEter and Arod apologists are pathetic also.
Saying JEter was a fool and should have taken a pitch 3 and 1 with the bases loaded with a pitcher imploding is disloyal and than we get the shrewd gang that says why did Sexson swing at a pitch when he was 2 and 0 in the count.
PEter the average reader on this blog does not have the grey matter between there ears to figure out complicated principles like take a pitch when the pitcher cannot find home plate when you are up 3 and 1 in the count with the bases loaded and he just walked the batter before you or Arod should try not to pull the ball but go where it is pitched…
great game guys.. proud of the smart playing by the gang tonight..
cano walked 3 times tonight , miracles do happen but unless the yanks get a heart and brain transplant it is OVER>>>>>>>
who cares if he was out or safe…he shouldn’t have hit in the DP…he does not know how to hit with RISP.
but look on the bright side. He’ll break all the records, but not deliver when the team needs it. even before this last AB i was saying Arod doesn’t make my top 5 in batters i would want at the plate if the game were on the line.
I bet Petes happy anyway. Damn.
“funny jeter blowing a bubble while sliding”
That’s what you do when you’ve got an EDGE.
We aren’t out of this. We can still go 6-4 on the trip.
anyone remeber detroit celebrating after the 2006 alds. that was the worst i have ever seen they were going crazy
Keep saying I’m done, keep getting pulled back in.
This time I’m really done. Too frustrating. Too… not fun.
Not saying they have to win every game obviously, but how about at least winning the ones where the starting pitcher has an ERA over 7?
V, you are a freaking idiot
Sigh.
Lo and behold, Tampa and Boston both win. Thanks for all the false hope Yanks, we see now that the 8 game tear coming off the break was merely a tease. A big, giant tease.
25 of the games remaining are vs Boston, Tampa, Los Angeles, Minnesota and Chicago. You have to win the games against the Baltimores and the Texas’. Instead the Yankees let the mediocre teams walk all over them, putting themselves in the position where they NEED to beat the best of the best, EVERY time, if they want to make the playoffs. And as if our injury problems this year weren’t bad enough, now we’ve lost Joba. I’ve been watching the miracle comebacks the Yanks have had in recent years. But clearly the baseball gods will not allow it this year. Its gonna take a hell of a lot for them to get in now. Sucks. Very disappointing year, but what are you gonna do? Sometimes the injury bug bites. hard. it’s amazing they’ve done at least as well as they have with all the guys who’ve missed significant time.
Heres my thinking. If Arod is going to keep doing this, hitting only in non clutch situations and continue to be someone who cannot seem to hit according to the game conditions, or cannot seem to handle the stress of hitting in a tie or close game, take him out of those situations instead of torturing him. Bat him 2nd or 6th. He won`t be in so many of those situations and quite honestly I`ll bet hes smart enough to realize what he is doing, and he probably hates coming up in those situations anyway. If he doesnt act like a clean up hitter move him around
It has been a while since I saw a Yankees team look so “out of it” with the playoffs in reach.
This is just horrible. Can’t beat Cincy, Baltimore, Texas, KC, Toronto, Pittsburgh, all mediocre teams at best.
Pitchers with ERA’s above 4.00 look like Cy Young to this team.
I know people will blast me but I have had a long crappy arse day so it is time to vent… but Joe Girardi is NOT a good manager. He has NO control of this team and CANNOT motivate this team to do anything.
I said it in May and will say it again, 85 win team missing the playoffs, struggling to make 3rd place in their division.
Never seen so many “proven vets” look like “extras” in the movie Bull Durham. I could stand and watch 3 pitches 4 times a night for 12 million.
Yanks have been peeling the Rangers off the bottom of their cleats for 10+ years now.
They should celebrate.
They are 2 GB of us in the WC loss column.
You think we’re not out of it?
Why should they think any different?
They win the next two and and they are in the WC race.
“I’d agree that VORP sounds like a more valueable number.”
VORP is a more reliable and accurate number. That’s different than being a more valuable number in many ways.
It has major draw backs because it doesn’t take defense into account.
For instance, if you just looked at VORP you’d think that Albert Pujols and say Prince Fielder were players of comparable value last year.
If fact they weren’t – and it wasn’t even close. Pujols was much, much more valuable than Fielder as Fielder was so horrendous in the field.
This year if you only looked at VORP you’d think Giambi is a more valuable player than Youklis. Not true.
Both are useful. You just have to take WARP as sort of a ball park estimate. If there’s a big discrepancy between VORP and WARP that’s telling.
Cash please find a CFer!!! It means nothing now..But Girardi is a moron. If he is sitting Melky because he cant hit why would you have him pinch hit??!! Another one of Girardi’s move that made absolutely no sense. Melky looks like someone from single A trying to hit major league pitching…He is that over matched. Yanks should just let the pitcher hit in his spot. It would of been nice if Gardner hit when he was up here to replace him because anyone with a pulse is better then him but Gardner did nothing.
since Girardi is such a numbers nerd, you would think he would figure out by now how dumb it is to hit Arod and Giambi back to back since both are having awful AB with RISP’s this year.
i know this won’t happen, but i do wish there were a way to bring in willie, though this isn’t entirely Girardi’s fault. alot of unproductive millionaire’s.
“anyone remeber detroit celebrating after the 2006 alds. that was the worst i have ever seen they were going crazy”
The Yankees are like a dying whale with the sharks gleefully taking bites out of them.
Yeah sexson has 13 grannys and king derek has 1.. also the sexson count was 0 and 1 so who ever stated that earlier was wrong..
yeah this post game blather session should be fun..
It is not that they lose fools it is how they lose..hey play dumb and bad baseball that is the problem… they are way down in walks this year, terrible with RISP, and make most bad pitchers look good..
they lost to a rookie with 17 walks to 4 K’s, they lsot to a guy with a 7+ ERA, they only had him throw 70 or os pitches into the 6th innning..that is the problem not that they lose..
A-Rod
He’ll never be a clutch hitter because:
1. The Yankees put a clause in his contract that expects him to hit homers instead of getting on base, so he can make an extra 3M each, when he passes Ruth, Aaron and Bonds.
2.He never was clutch, and he never will be. Why, because he lost his MOJO to Madonna.
3. He needs to find his Chi, his harmony, his vitalism
Any chance we could pry Matt Harrison from the Rangers for our stretch run?
We’ll obviously pick up the rest of his salary this year and then give him back in 2009. And to balance the devastating loss to their rotation this year we will give them Aceves to keep.
Ok, I’m getting bitter after watching this team collapse this past week…off to sleep.
Who else is looking foward to 2 more years of Joe Girardi?
Were people really predicting that the Yanks would sweep this series against Texas? This team is so ridiculously inconsistent, and with Texas throwing out their rookie scrub starting pitchers who we haven’t seen before, that’s basically our cryptonite. We’ll be lucky to split this series.
I’ve always wondered just how frustrated Torre was with Arod to move him to 8th in the lineup against Detroit that year.
Imagine what went into that thought process. Torre was a forgiving guy – the veteran’s manager. But it got so bad that he moved Arod to 8th in a playoff series!!!!!!! Still amazing to consider. Arod has holes in his bat when the pressure is on.
Black Yankee may be right. Maybe Arod doesn’t belong at #4.
A-Rod has got to go. DFA and release him. We eat the $300 mil, but that’s better than opposing infielders gobbling up his man-on-first grounders for the next 9.5 years. F him. I hate him so much.
On the bright side, we can sign Vicky Galindo. At least she’s nice to look at.
2 and 8 might be an optimistic prediction for this road trip lol. This game was the entire season in microcosm: a weaker opponent whom they usually pound; a rookie starter with an ERA above 7 who repeatedly walks batters; a small army of runners on left on base; a semi-tired bullpen holding off the other team’s juggernaut offense until being inevitably overcome; and the obligatory late-inning rally that falls just short.
But I still love ‘em . . . just a little disappointed . . . no biggie . . .
“WHY DOES THIS TEAM NOT HIT WHEN THE PITCHING IS GOING WELL, AND THE PITCHERS NOT PITCH WELL WHEN WE ARE SCORING RUNS????”
True, and extremely frustrating.
Arod has to stop guessing and just react. He’s been taking good pitches and swinging at bad pitches.
Best case scenario, we split this series. 6 games back in August, we have to WIN series. It’s getting awefully late in the season to start to get things going.
On a positive note, with how poorly this team has played for most of the season, it’s amazing they even still have a chance.
Who can save Yankees?
Mark my words. We will win the world series in 2019, the year after Arod leaves. Its called the Tiki theory, courtesy of Bill Simmons. As soon as Tiki Barber left the Giants, they won. Same will thing will happen to the Yankees.
You know there is no way after this type of game that there is no screaming or chair throwing in that lockerroom someone other than the manager has to be pissed off tonight. Someone is close to throwing a punch at someone.
Someone is going to set someone off in that locker room, there is too many frustrating losses to hold in. And I’m also beginning to think the worst thing we did was let go of Donnie Baseball who would have been a better suited batting coach.
The Yankees lose another game when Girardi s*cks as a manager and the Umps blow another call. Later, rinse, repeat.
Ok, how come nobody mentioned this (I guess it’s possible I missed it too):
Farnsworth gave up the tying HR in the eighth to the CHW ballboy, I mean Alexei Ramirez.
Whiff-
85 wins! Aren’t you asking for too much? There’s only ONE[go look at our remaining schedule], ONE series that we should sweep and that’s the 3 games against Seattle over Labor Day weekend.
Who is hurting the team?
Brandon – no way. No freaking way.
I cant think of one guy on this team who would do that.
They’re all figuring out how to take the fastest shower in the world and get the hell out of there.
There isn’t one guy on that team who would express his frustrations like that.
A-Rod lifetime clutch stats:
late-and-close: .277 .374 .529
tie game: .298 .397 .573
within 1 run: .304 .398 .584
i think he knows how to hit in the clutch.
http://www.baseball-reference......038;year=c
“Someone is going to set someone off in that locker room, there is too many frustrating losses to hold in. And I’m also beginning to think the worst thing we did was let go of Donnie Baseball who would have been a better suited batting coach.”
The only way to of kept Donnie was to keep Torre.. and lets face it, Bowa was better too.
“So the Yankees think the Rangers purposely hit A-Rod to lead off the second inning and again hit him again on purpose with first base occupied in the eighth inning?”
No, they were accidental. But still, TWO accidental hits of your best player deserves punishment.
“You want the big homers early last year, fine?
You want the double off Nathan in the playoffs, fine.
You want the HR off Papelbon, fine.
Name me one more, please – go ahead.”
So, if you take away all the big hits he’s gotten, then he doesn’t have any at all. Real genius stuff, there.
One more, huh? How about the 9th-inning game-winner he hit off of Schilling in Fenway in 2005? They won the season series, and thus the division title, by one game that year.
AD ….YOU are the FREAKING IDIOT !….Calling V an idiot because he wants to be positive….seriously,,,go back to rooting for the Padres,,,you LOSER…
A-Rod is an anchor. An expensive anchor, but an anchor. It doesn’t matter if they make the playoffs or not. They’ll get bounced from the first round and A-Rod will give us his usual pathetic show.
I feel bad for Kyle – I really do.
At least we can hope Seattle hangs on and beats the Twins.
But it’s going to come down to us finishing with a better record than Boston.
That’s the season, right there.
Tampa has the division sewn up. If not by now, David Price will sew the final stitches.
Matt “A-Rod beats the throw too. What a shock.
Missed the call on A-Rod preventing Nady from hitting who’s on fire. Missed the call on Abreu preventing us from having the tying run on base.
Texas acting like they won the world series. What a freaking disgrace they are. They beat the most embarrassing Yankees team since 93, they haven’t done anything special. The Yankees HANDED THEM this game.”
Disgrace? A team with a 50 million dollar payroll just beat a team with a payroll of 210 million. Give or take a difference of about 150 million. 150 MILLION!!! That’s more than the entire red sox payroll. Why shouldn’t they celebrate? They’re not going to the playoffs. Good job texas!
What is a disgrace is your blaming the umps every game. So pathetic. Unless you’re like 12. If so, I apologize.
On the post game instead of hearing the usual everyday interview with Damon can we get an Arod interview??!! Maybe ask him by he is the biggest choke artist head case??!! It is sickening to watch year after after how pathetic he is in those spots. Either DP’s or over swinging and popping it up in the infield. Fans where already booing him the last series at the stadium and it is going to continue to get worse when the Yanks come back after this road trip. What a pathetic loser…
after most our losses the saying too little too late seems to run through my mind
“Who else is looking foward to 2 more years of Joe Girardi?”
My hand is raised.
This is not on Girardi. This is a team of aging veterans and not yet ready for prime time youngsters. Add into that mix all the injuries, and there ya go.
If Girardi is to be successful next year, this off season needs to be close to backing up the truck and hauling off a lot of aging vets and unproductive youth.
Next years starting rotation of Joba, Wang, Hughes, Mussina/Pettite, and maybe Sabathia is a great place to start a run back to playoff caliber baseball.
CanIGetAMooseCall ….Amen to THAT, brother !….and Veras did it right as well….funny, even the Texas announcer AND the Texas player AND the Texas manager had NO PROBLEM with it…but our resident Yankee Basher, Pete, has to take a shot at the Yankees….what a surprise, huh ?
Whether you want to defend or detract Alex Rodriguez…it’s not a good sign that you can basically predict his at bats in these spots. 8th inning against the Angels he hit into a DP too but Figgins made an error and saved him from following the script he usually follows. It has gotten pathetically stale.
Yankees need reborn and change totally.
You know what they say… leadoff walks always come around to score… except the Yankees!
I think (and its not a knock) but Arod does not have the stomach for these situations. Like the kid who is afraid to go on the big rollercoaster. Doesnt make him a bad guy, I just think thats him. Take him out of those spots. Dont put him as the go to guy. Put him in a different role in the batting order. Everyone looks at the clean up spot as the key guy, bat him 2nd. Take the pressure off
“i think he knows how to hit in the clutch.”
Take a look at his stats in playoff games, George. The guy is a choke and will always be a choke until he learns to handle pressure.
And I wouldn’t bet on that horse if I were you.
Anyone looking forward to the A-Rod Yankeeography? You know, the one where Giambi talks in the commercial about how he “lives up to the hype.”
If that hype is never getting a hit in a big spot, only hitting homeruns when we are up or down 10 runs and being laughable in the playoffs, than I agree with Giambi.
You know what I’m looking forward to?
Seeing if Cashman can clean up this team and get rid of the unwanted players and enhance this team.
It’d be nice to think we could make this team great through the system alone. It has proven to not be the case. They need to sink money into the right players and lose the ones we can replace with upgrades.
Sign Sabathia, hope Wang and Chamberlain come back healthy, slot Mussina 4th and Hughes 5th….it will never happen but talk about an elite staff.
Brandon— There is no leadership on this team. Who is going to throw chairs and get in people’s faces?
The only guy who has the balls to do that is Girardi… and he already did it. If he does it multiple times, it will lose its effect. Your leader should never be the manager.
Jeter isisn’t going to say anything. Arod could care less. Abreu/Giambi are not the shouting types. Pudge has not been in here long enough. Mariano doesn’t yell. Andy/Mussina don’t either. The rest of the team is full of young guys or veterans who have not been here long enough.
Where is this mysterous leadership coming from? Damon might be the only one, but I doubt he will yell at his teammates like that.
Again… what does it say about the team that our manager is our vocal leader?
I have no problem with Girardi.. It is classic to blame Girardi, that is a joke…
Jeters foolish play, arod DP, etc..
Girardi is a good manager he does not have good players. maybe 5 years ago some of these guys were good players.
the yanks are not a smart team the proof is right there we watch it every day…
but no one asks about the JETER AB??It is never mentioned…
Sir Sidney will save us tomorrow
It’s sad when A-Rod comes up with one out in the 9th as the tieing run and you just hope he only makes one out. That’s sad. A-Rod is sad.
I got to agree w/ Dan and I’m an Alex Rodriguez fan saying this. Literally if Alex at 21 from Seattle could watch a video tape of what type of hitter he has turned into he’d want to kick his own ass. I mean this guy use to be an assasin, a killer, now he’s a softy when he gets hit, analytical guy, I mean F*&* WHEN ARE YOU GOING TO ADJUST !
Bay 4 for 5. I now think our biggest mistake was not getting Bay and Nady in the same deal. Why?
Melky sits and Bay/Nady plays center.
Manny ends up staying with Boston and they remain a dysfunctional clubhouse.
We also face Feldman in this series who shut us down last time in NY.
Again Girardi, try this lineup:
Jeter
Damon
A-Rod
Abreu
Nady
Cano
I-Rod
Giambi
Christian
Jeter
ARod
Damon
Abreu
Nady
Giambi
Cano
Pudge
Christian
Redding – you are absolutely correct.
I have said from the beginning that this team has not been the same since O’Neil retired.
Could you just imagine Paul O’Neil in the locker room after a game like this? The writers would have to wait outside while every piece of furniture not nailed down would be flying through the air.
Moose should not be back under any circumstances he is 39 years old… Yeah there has ee=been like to legal good pitchers of that age in the history of the game, that sounds like a good gamble.. Kinda like paying arod for 10 years, or rich harden for 7 yrs or barry zito for 8 or 9 years, bad risks….
Moose has had a great season a suprising season, let’s leave it at that….. he needs to go home and spend time with his family…..
“Who can save Yankees?”
Shea Hildebrand
Throwing chairs is all hot air. They need to throw chairs on the field, play with a little urgency. After game emotions are after the fact
Pudge has not been in here long enough.
He’s the one guy that would kick someone’s ass if it gets ttoo much. Pudge came here to win and he definitely if this continues will go wild in that lockerroom.
Again… what does it say about the team that our manager is our vocal leader?
That’s they have a glass chin syndrome, too many people afraid of ruffling feathers and trying to be fake.
It really is sad. To dread your best hitter coming up in a big spot…that’s never going to happen in Boston with Ortiz coming up, never. In a big spot it makes them even more optimistic. This guy turns into a nine hitter in these spots.
Redding: the only one I could see having the passion to do that on the current club is Posada, and he’s not an option.
“Who can save Yankees?â€
Shea Hildebrand
What’s a Shea Hildebrand?
paul oneil was a true yankee.
Brandon
A-Rod was clutch with Seattle, but looking at older photos of him, he has bulked up, and is not a contact hitter anymore. Plus wasn’t Griffey batting behind him?
Pathetic
Yikes. My eyes are crossed and my head is spinning.
On the bright side, it takes all of 4 minutes now to skim 1800+ posts and deem 78% of them useless.
ANSKY: it does save time, doesn’t it?
Stuart
If Moose pitches well the rest of the way, maybe he should come back, in June to a 1/2 year contract like Clemens.
no one mentions how dumb they play. they do not work the count and let bad pitchers off the hook…
4 DP’s 8 walks and 2 HBP’s…. the yanks got 10 free baserunners…..
The yankee pitchers walked 8 also… this team is just a wreck and you guys are talking about not getting Bay in a trade.. That is past history and never will change. How about talking about JEters OBP, or Cano’s under 300OBP.. It is hard to have a under 300 OBP.. Varitek is hitting 218 and almost has a 300 OBP…WIll Nieves has a 300 + OBP…
These #’s should make you cringe……THis offense should make you cringe..
The mets start 2 bums in LF and Rf and there offense is on par with the yanks……….
Yeah, Ellen … and antidepressants too.
78%? That’s being kind.
What a great ML debut, for pitcher Chris waters of Baltimore. 8 innings and 1 hit (single by Guerrero) and 3 walks. Sherrill replaced him to open 9th inning. Would have ben nice to see him complete it…103 pitches.
So I cannot get any of the post game comments but did any sorry arse over paid Yankee have anything of value to say?
Just curious.
At this point, after reading comments on this blog, I am of the opinion that the Yankees deserve every single negative comment that is posted. They have over achieved by reaching 9 games now over .500.
For 200 million, Cashman and the Steinbrenners are giving the Yankee fans a Yugo but telling them it is a Mercedes.
What a fine product to display in the last year of the Yankee stadium. They won’t need to blast is apart, the former Yankee ghost will crumble it themselves in shear embarrassment at those who wear the pinstripes.
But, lets all take solace in the fact that for 12 million or more, none of these guys are losing sleep. Apparently that is the price to be mediocre and still feel good about how you look before your next GQ photo shoot.
look at tatis who is getting minum and hits 2 clucth homeruns
DanKirby –
The eyeballs began crossing in the 3rd minute so there’s a +/- 3% margin of error. Still, at that kiind of rate if there were over 2000 posts at least one of them would have exploded all over the keyboard.
Ouch….Ponson pitching in this launching pad…Tomorrow is going to be a bad one
Can I say how happy i am that my tx came today to see the yanks in baltimore
What a joke these guys are
At least Balimore has the “block”
Well, back to work. Goodnight all.
So besides breaking down fictional numbers about bad posts…Do you have any thoughts as to tonight’s game and the Yankees recent slide, along with Joba Chamberlain’s injury?
GIRARDI IS A FRIGGIN’ JOKE! J O K E !
Any word on Joba in Girardi’s post game interview?
So I painted the whole kitchen while the game was on nearby. I got to see the game, got something constructive done, skimmed the posts for the intersting ones, made my few reasonbably sane yet admittedly still useless ones, and now I can still go to bed all nice & relaxed. I’m concrened about Joba and wish the Yanks had played better, but I’m not all bent out of shape about it.
Perhaps some good advice for some.
Which palyer do you want to keep or sell out?
Okay, Yankee fans. When A Rod came up to the plate in the 9th with Jeter on first, how many of you had a flashback to Game 5 against the Angels, 2005? You just knew a DP was coming.
A Rod is extremely talented, fast, good with the glove and a huge number hanger. But, he can’t even pretend to clutchness.
The Yankees will never win a championship with A-Rod unless he is not the focus of this team.
Time to get on with the rest of my life.
Its all about this off season and 09. The Yankees could be scary good next year and in the future if everything goes to plan in the off season. 08 is nothing more than getting ready for a BIG 09 and a very bright future. This year means nothing to me. If they do well and make the playoffs great.
look at tatis who is getting minum and hits 2 clucth homeruns
He’s got to be the biggest mystery in how the F*** is he doing that since Shane Spencer. But it’s not only him it’s also Damon Easily…it’s wierd these guys have the hunger meanwhile on this team WTF can they do. Why is it that this team’s mindset is nowhere near fight for your food territory.
I mean again I look at Alex and Jetes tonight, Jetes tried to be the hero it came back to bite him, Alex IDK what the F*** he’s doing. A fastball at my body I would have kicked that pitchers ass, where is his pride, I’ve been secretly thinking this can you imagine being Alex Rodriguez at 21 yrs. old SKY IS THE LIMIT…becoming an assasin in this game and then someone like a fortune teller w/ thier crystal ball shows what he is doing at age 34, sees OH SH** I’m in NY and then sees countless ABs w/ him striking out, GIDP, popping out, GO, AO, foul tip K’s ….I mean seriously if that would be me I wouldn’t allow that to continue w/o doing everything I can to change it. I MEAN CHANGE SOMETHING, SOMETHING ! SOMETHING ! At this pace Evan Longoria is going to have a ring before him.
GB
Would that mean that the Angels made Chris Waters look like Cy Young and there offense stinks or that Chris Waters really pitched an excellent game? Sometimes I get confused about that after reading comments here.
I am SO pissed at this team right now that words cannot even describe it. I haven’t done my radio show since April due to health issues…I may have to fire up the mic again!
This team has been lacking of a momentum to keep consistent. This is a totally messy year for Yankees.
A-Rod is a tad bit overated.
He has no friends on this club on top of it. He didn’t have any in TX and doesn’t have any here in NY.
Pete, you ever been hit by a pitch in the arm like that? It hurts! There doesn’t have to be intent for it to be frustrating in that spot. If I got hit in the same spot twice in a game by fastballs inside, I’d be annoyed too.
It doesn’t matter if Texas meant to hit ARod (twice). It happened and Veras didn’t mean to hit their best hitter, either. I actually like the message that is being sent.