Game 113: Yankees at Rangers
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- August
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YANKEES (61-51)
Damon LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Rodriguez 3B
Nady DH
Cano 2B
Sexson 2B
Molina C
Christian CF
Pettitte LHP
Andy Pettitte (12-8, 4.18) vs. the Texas hitters.
Matt Harrison (2-2, 7.40) has never faced any of the New York hitters.
Notes: The Yankees have lost six of their last nine. … The Big G goes 3 for 4 with a homer and two RBI and has to sit against Matt Harrison? Meanwhile, interesting that Pettitte got shelled the last time with Pudge Rodriguez catching and now Molina is catching him. … Harrison is a 22-year-old lefty who has made five starts. … Nady is 12 of his last 23 with eight runs scored, 11 RBI and four homers. … Abreu has reached base safely in 23 straight games. … The Yankees have hit nine homers in their last three games.
IT’S GETTING LATE EARLY: After today’s game, only 49 games will be left. That’s 30 percent of the season.
TEXAS TWO-STEP: The Yankees have traditionally given savage beatings to Texas, going 20-6 against them from 2005-07. But they are 1-3 against the Rangers this season.
NO WORD YET: Still waiting on the Joba. Do not expect anything definite today. The Yankees tend to break bad news in small doses. I’ll update the blog as soon as I hear anything.
Back later with updates.
* * * * * * 6:34 p.m. UPDATE ON JOBA CHAMBERLAIN * * * * * *
Chamberlain had an MRI today in New York. The Yankees would not reveal what it showed. However, Joba is being sent to Dr. James Andrews in Birmingham, Ala., for another examination tomorrow.
Girardi did not say who would start on Saturday. The first name he mentioned as a possibility was Darrell Rasner
UPDATE, 6:41 p.m.: Just spoke to Brian Cashman. He said the Yankees know what the images showed but until they hear from Andrews, they’re not going to reveal what that is.
It’s safe to say the MRI showed something. Otherwise Chamberlain wouldn’t be going to see Dr. Andrews. Will Carroll made an interesting point, saying that Andrews is known for conservative treatment. That could be a sign it’s not a devastating injury.
Regardless, do not expect Joba to pitch any time soon. If there was something on the MRI worth sending him for a second opinion, they’re not just going to cross their fingers and run him back out there in 10 days.
UPDATE, 6:54 p.m.: You can expect Ian Kennedy to start one of the games in Anaheim, either Friday or Saturday. If Giese is not used in relief the next few days, he’ll get the other one.
UPDATE, 9:25 p.m.: Fine effort by the Yankees, who are being made to look silly by a rookie with a 7.40 ERA.
UPDATE, 9:55 p.m.: Two stinkers in a row for Andy Pettitte. 10.1 innings, 17 hits and 14 runs (so far).
UPDATE, 10:26 p.m.: I’m not following this. Pudge is the pinch runner and Melky is the pinch hitter?
Melky is hitting .250 against RHPs. Pudge is hitting .293. Also, he’s Pudge Rodriguez and hammered the ball in this park for 11 years.
UPDATE, 10:28 p.m.: And Melky pops to short.
UPDATE, 11:03 p.m.: I guess we know why they were reticent to bring Bruney up. Man, this is an ugly game. Remember when the Yankees used to smack Texas around? Not any more. They’ll be 1-4 this season with two games to go. That’s a travesty given the Texas pitching staff.
UPDATE, 11:08 p.m.: But wait, C.J. Wilson somehow manages to walk two guys, hit A-Rod and Richie Sexson slams one.
8-6 Rangers. The Yankees are breathing again.
The double and HR were the first extra-base hits for Sexson as a Yankee.
UPDATE, 11:27 p.m.: So the Yankees think the Rangers purposely hit A-Rod to lead off the second inning and again hit him again on purpose with first base occupied in the eighth inning?
UPDATE, 11:29 p.m.: One way or another, it comes down to Alex. Always does.
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big g 3/4 and then sits…..I dont get it either
Big sexy in the lineup….oy vey
HALLELUJAH 3 4 and 5 FIXED !!!!
GIDP tandem still together
X is awesome.
About time they gave Sexson a shot at 2nd.
Sexson is at 2nd, hahahahahahahah!
so i take it pettite is the 1B and P tonight?
And Melky sits again.
Like seeing Christian in there.
Let Melky think about things for another game.
My guess is we’ll get some vague non-news shortly before game time about how Joba has been diagnosed with some injury, but they need to do further tests to be sure there aren’t any other problems and won’t know how long he’ll be out until the weekend, or something along those lines.
I assume Sexson is actually at 1B?
Cano can make it over to 1st faster than Sexson, if there is going be a play….keep Robbie and Richie and 2nd together….it sounds like a cartoon !
Dear God,
LEAVE ANDY ALONE
“HALLELUJAH 3 4 and 5 FIXED !!!!”
Might only be for tonite. Witohut Giambi, he has no other viable (and I use that word loosely) #5 hitter. Giambi will be back tomorrow and that’s when we’ll know for sure. I’d guess Nady is back at #6 as Joe G won’t want some tough lefty being brought in to face Giambi and Cano back to back in a big spot.
I am expecting to hear Joba has muscle tear in shoulder out 4-6 weeks and for this team that is effectively the rest of the season. I wouldn’t rush him or Hughes this season is a wash get CC plug him in start next year with a CC, Wang, Joba, Hughes,Andy/Moose rotation.
Dang Pete, I’ve been tense about Joba all day, and you gotta drop the whole “The Yankees tend to break bad news in small doses” thing on us. Arghh!
Welcome to the doghouse Melky Cabrera
You know what, I whine all the time about Girardi playing Wilson Betemit, but if Girardi is determined to maximize his left-handers in the lineup—although Giambi’s splits against right-handed and left-handed pitcher differ not at all—I’d almost prefer him to Sexon.
From what I’ve seen of Sexon lately, you’re lucky if you get a single from him against a lefty. Expecting more than a base-hit every 5 ABs is like expecting a forthcoming answer from Cashman about Joba’s injury.
Front 6 looks good but bottom 3 I see K,K and ground out.
Last chance for Sexton tonight.
I expect to see Duncan up shortly if he fails again tonight. His AB vs. Guardardo was pathetic. He cant even hit a lefty throwing 86.
Is Mariano available??
Awesome. Giambi goes 3 for 4 yesterday and he sits today. Hopefully he can cool down again and go 0 for 4 in tomorrows game!
I don’t give a damn what anybody saids watch this offense punch someone tonight. Nady protecting Alex gets him more pitches and we take away a bat that is .198 w/ RISP and damaging Alex’s approach on top of that. Watch tonight the difference. QUOTE ME !
I expect to see Duncan up shortly if he fails again tonight.
Shelley? If so..he’s..injured..
finally X protecting alex
Richie Sexson is a joke.
Duncan is trying to come back from a pretty severe shoulder injury. Plus he stunk while he was here. Sexton is here, don’t think that a career minor leauger will replace him.
now the Giambi peanut gallery is at it.. they thought he was done this time yesterday. he gets 3 hits in 101 degrees and Girardi is a moron for giving him a day of rest against a lefty.
SHUT UP clowns….....
SHUT up E Man and other fools.. It is 101, Giambi sweats in the shower, is injury prone, and they want to give the LF’s 1/2 day off over the last 2 days.. SHut up with complaining about every DAMN LINEUP….
Sexson remains at 2nd base until everyone here spells his name right.
“Nady protecting Alex gets him more pitches”
Nady doesn’t protect Alex. That would imply that Nady somehow inspires fear in the eyes of a pitcher. He doesn’t. Alex will see the same stuff he’s been seeing because people will always be careful of him with an inferior bat behind him. Abreu gets protection from Arod. Ortiz used to get protection from Ramirez. Nady is not a protection bat.
“SHUT up E Man and other fools.. It is 101, Giambi sweats in the shower, is injury prone, and they want to give the LF’s 1/2 day off over the last 2 days.. SHut up with complaining about every DAMN LINEUP….”
LOL. The pot calling the kettle black!
Is this the last game Sexon will play prior to being put on waivers??? Giambino has a great game yesterday and they rest him??!?!?!?
Also, any thoughts on Joba not vibing well with Pudge? I mean, Pudge almost took his head off throwing to 2nd!
Bad day in the quarry huh Stuart?
Mo is expected to be available tonight.
E man I never complain about the lineups like fools like you…........
you have no CLUE…NONE….
They are playing in 100 plus degree heat. Joe already stated that he is going to use the dh spot to rotate guys out of the heat, hense Nady dh’ing and Sexton starting! Do you want the Big G to play another game in 100 plus heat cramp up and be lost for a few games?
yeah rhapsody my internet connection in the quarry is really slow….
Hey Fredo and what Alex does strike fear in a pitcher?
He is the only great HR hitter who is always 0-2 and doesnt get walked…. Am I wrong here?
“Also, any thoughts on Joba not vibing well with Pudge? I mean, Pudge almost took his head off throwing to 2nd!”
That stuff happens. What was more disconcertng, so far as Joba and Pudge working together, was how frequently Joba was shaking Pudge off. They did not seem to connect in terms of pitch selection.
“After today’s game, only 49 games will be left. That’s 30 percent of the season.”
It’s still early.
“Last chance for Sexton tonight.
I expect to see Duncan up shortly if he fails again tonight. His AB vs. Guardardo was pathetic. He cant even hit a lefty throwing 86.”
I disagree. He’s been terrible offensively, but he’s still a superior defensive option in the late innings to our lovely collection of butchers.
Tino was looking in shape on Saturday. Maybe it’s time for a two-month comeback….
Thank you Rebecca.
“Mo is expected to be available tonight.”
jennifer no logic let the complainers do there thing and omplain about anything and everything…
giambi sweats in the shower and is not exacly a sturdy soul…
Haha great post by stuart, the lineup-whining gets really tiresome but it’s always good for a few laughs. There are more important things to be worrying about with the team right now than who hits where.
“Hey Fredo and what Alex does strike fear in a pitcher?”
I guess you’re right. Pitchers are always so anxious to face .300 hitters with 45 homer power.
Stick to soccer linguine-breath.
the call on the Kinsler play lost them the game.. I still have not seen the supposed foul ball hit Kinsler…
“About time they gave Sexson a shot at 2nd.”
LOL
anybody know where to find a page on the web that the game last night was entered into a scorebook? I was wondering exactly what Christian did when he went 0 for 3
Nady doesn’t protect Alex. That would imply that Nady somehow inspires fear in the eyes of a pitcher. He doesn’t. Alex will see the same stuff he’s been seeing because people will always be careful of him with an inferior bat behind him.
Trust me word is getting out on Nady right now .334 w/RISP gets around just like Abreu’s .360 + AVG w/ RISP gets around. You will see a different offense tonight. Bank on it.
“E man I never complain about the lineups like fools like you………..”
You complain about everything Little. You’re complaining about me right now.
Shelley is back playing at Scranton.Sexson has looked overmatched in game situations.If he’s not hitting lefties he should not be here.
I dont think anyone here will say that Arod strikes fear in pitchers the way that Manny Rameriz does or the way Albert does or the way Barry Bonds did?
I happen to like Arod, but he isnt a hitter who you get scared of in a big situation….
Also, any thoughts on Joba not vibing well with Pudge? I mean, Pudge almost took his head off throwing to 2nd!
And that’s on Joba’s inexperience, he should know live play runner at 1st get out of the catcher’s path.
Last night’s game really left a horrible feeling in the pit of my stomach. Not only the whole Joba thing but the way we lost the game knowing we would have made up a game on the Sox and Rays.
This season has really been like that rollercoaster ride you knew you shouldn’t have gone on right after you ate a cheeseburger with greasy fries all while pounding 4 beers…
And like that ride, if you make it through the ups and downs and upside-downs, it would have been well worth it.
maybe THAT’s the reason Joba is hurt…..from dodging that throw..
“What was more disconcertng, so far as Joba and Pudge working together, was how frequently Joba was shaking Pudge off. They did not seem to connect in terms of pitch selection.”
I noticed the same Fredo, just my opinion but I wondered why Joba didn’t give Pudge the pitch he was looking for, maybe I give Pudge more credit then he is due, but I believe there isn’t a better catcher for a young pitcher.
E-Man, you are way off, stuart is one of the first people on these threads ripping the people who (usually idiotically) nitpick every single lineup.
“What, Melky hitting 9th? Why not move him up to 2nd to get his bat heated up?!?!?!”
“Betemit! WE ARE GOING TO LOSE BY 10 RUNS BECAUSE BETEMIT IS IN THIS GAME”
And so on and so forth, it’s always really ridiculous.
Pete has both Cano and Sexson playing 2B on the lineups.
Why are people complaining about Sexon being in the lineup?
Isin’t this why we got him? If he isin’t in the lineup against a rookie lefty, when when is he ever going to play?
Giambi has one good game and now his entire 1 month of suckage is erased?
1. it’s asinine to complain about the lineup every single day. they’re up against a lefty and, last night notwithstanding, giambi’s been ice cold. it’s 100+ degrees out and the guy’s huge and prone to injury. why not give him a night off? (and there’s no “T” in sexon, by the way.)
2. joba shook jorge off plenty of times. molina, too. it’s one of the few problems with the kid. he seems to think he knows better than his catcher and, as SJ documented, he’s paid for it a couple of times.
3. in terms of the yankees “breaking bad news in small doses,” i don’t think it’ll be great news or awful news. most likely they’ll say he strained or pulled a muscle and then offer an optimistic timetable for his return, which we’ll all know by now will equate to about 1/3 of the time he’ll actually miss. at this point, it’s not going to be great news. the kid’s hurt, it’s just a matter of how severely. hopefully it’s not bad and we’ll see him again this year. if we don’t read the words “labrum” or “rotator cuff,” it’s good news in the big picture.
Its becoming very clear that this team is not going to make the post season.
Im going to start hoping for the best but expecting the worst.
“He is the only great HR hitter who is always 0-2 and doesnt get walked…. Am I wrong here?”
Yes, you’re wrong. His OBP is 80 points higher than his BA so he must be getting his walks.
Hi Kasey…long time no blog
Girardi is a CLOWN anyway. Good players / Bad manager.
“Trust me word is getting out on Nady right now .334 w/RISP gets around just like Abreu’s .360 + AVG w/ RISP gets around. You will see a different offense tonight. Bank on it.”
That’s two different things. The offense will be a little different, but Nady still offers Arod no protection. Pitchers will pitch Arod the same way they always do. Somewhat carefully.
Andrew, all you have to do is CTRL-F his name in past game posts and see him whining about Giambi being in the line up.
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is shelley expected to return anytime this yr? how much longer of this richie sexson experiment the guy is an absolute joke.
Nady doesn’t offer protection to A-Rod.
What he does offer is a bat that can hit with RISP.
Next year Arod’s protection will be Miranda and 37 yr old Posada.
Not getting Tex and getting rid of Abreu, our lineup will now be closer to the SF Giants than the Sox. Arod will never get a thing to hit.
“Andrew, all you have to do is CTRL-F his name in past game posts and see him whining about Giambi being in the line up.”
I don’t know, that sounds kind of obsessive/creepy. Plus, Giambi is just one guy. Most of these people spread their love around to whoever went 0-for-4 or whoever particularly annoys their eyes by seeing them in the lineup, with all kinds of bluster and bold statements and so on (last time this guy starts! get this guy off the team!). Today it’s Richie Sexson. Tomorrow it will probably be someone else.
“Stick to soccer linguine-breath.”
A-Rod walks plenty and of course pitchers don’t want to face him. But, what does linguine smell like? Kinda depends on the sauce, doesn’t it?
is nady our mike lowell?
E man continue with your BS and lies.. seriously are you a friggin moron…
yeah I am giving Girardi advice on where to bat Melky.. SUre, again isn’t it time for your nap or cartoons????
“Giambi sweats in the shower”
this line made me laugh a lot more than i should have….
“it’s asinine to complain about the lineup every single day. they’re up against a lefty and, last night notwithstanding, giambi’s been ice cold. it’s 100+ degrees out and the guy’s huge and prone to injury. why not give him a night off? ”
Fine, give him a night off but when he comes back don’t stick him in the #5 hole. That’s my main argument. Put him in the #3 hole.. He’s still getting his walks, it might jumpstart him a little. You can stick Abreu in the #5 spot and keep this line up deep.
That’s two different things. The offense will be a little different, but Nady still offers Arod no protection. Pitchers will pitch Arod the same way they always do. Somewhat carefully.
Nope not really because the pitcher will have in the back of his mind that the next guy can hurt him. See there is a difference between .198 and .334 w/ RISP…if you read Alex’s stats his OBP % in these situations is higher because the SP doesn’t pitch to him therefore he has to take a walk. They rather risk going at Giambi hence Alex doesn’t get protection, tonight when they risk walking him or if Alex hits a single or double the next guy can actually drive him home. And what results here is the SP will challenge him in his next AB instead of pitching around him.
You’ll see. Until later guys I gotta go, Harrison is toast tonight.
Mark if so Nady is a damn good player, let’s hope so….
Wagner to the DL!!!!!!!!!!!!
“is nady our mike lowell?”
Only if Mike Lowell all of a sudden became handsome.
I think Nady’s better than Lowell. Lowell is a doubles machine because he’s got that green monster to hit up against. I don’t think his numbers are as good away from Fenway.
Nady seems to have power to all fields. I like that. Oh yeah, and he’s hot too.
Do u think Sox will try to go after CC just to try to drive-up the price? Remember with Manny’s contract out the Sox have money to spend this off-season…I heard somewhere they have upto 50 Mil to spend this off-season.
I think the CC will be at an advantage with all the bidding that will go on. The bidding starts at 6 years 20 Mil = 120 Mil. That is just the starting bid. My guess is 7/8 Years 160 Mil. What do u guys think?
andrew maybe you can play stratematic in your mommies basement with E man??? You guys both are full of you know what and lie like a rug…....
as far as Giambi batting 3rd and moving Abreu to 5th. I see nothing a matter with that . That is a reasonable suggestion, would it make a difference? I have no idea, Giambi does get on base and Abreu is better with RISP then GIambi by a ton so far this year.
Wagner to the DL does not affect the Yankees in any way, shape or form.
“I think the CC will be at an advantage with all the bidding that will go on. The bidding starts at 6 years 20 Mil = 120 Mil. That is just the starting bid. My guess is 7/8 Years 160 Mil. What do u guys think?”
I think that we have enough to worry about this year w/o having to worry about who will be on the team next year.
“Wagner to the DL does not affect the Yankees in any way, shape or form.”
No, but it most certainly brings a smile to my face.
:p
Actually Stuart, Andrew was defending you.
You sure are smart.
Pete, do you live in an alternate universe where Jason Giambi is nicknamed the “Iron Horse”?
I like Nady hitting behind A-Rod. Better than Giambi.
“No, but it most certainly brings a smile to my face.”
That’s terrible.
I apologize to Andrew..
E man you still are a fool..
giambi as a platoon player boggles my mind. richie sexson stopped being a major leaguer 3 years ago
Giambi sitting, Sexson playing. Another brilliant move, Joe G.
Mike and the maddog lileing on Marte today.. The guy did walk to many of course but 46 pitches or so.. GIrardi let him out there to fail because of limited options in the pen. .WHy was Veras not available yesterday, anyone know?
pileing on.. oops….
The longer we wait, the worse the news has to be.
I still can’t reconcile myself to not playing in October though. The thought pains me too much.
Perhaps, they can hold out for four turns through the rotation until Hughes returns and they acquire a decent 4th starter from outside the organization, if the offense explodes and the bullpen, last night excepted, continues to dominate.
“Wagner to the DL does not affect the Yankees in any way, shape or form.”
Says the poster who constantly tells us about Syracuse weather, her schoolwork, her grad school optionss, etc.
Pedro part of the lineup CREW, nice… How about a Molina vs I ROD whine? How about CHristian vs Melky.. I think CHristian had an ofer yesterday??
WHINE WHINE WHINE….
“I apologize to Andrew..
E man you still are a fool..”
And you are clearly a genious.
yeah E man I have read your posts full of incredible wisdom and insight…
NOT REALLY..LEt’s just agree to dislike each other and leave it at that…
It’s honestly better that Joba doesn’t have forearm stiffness and soreness, to somehow make the Wagner discussion relevant. His (Joba’s) injury sounds like it is just the rest and rehabilitation-needed type, but Wagner’s symptoms are usually the Dr. James Andrews visit and operation precursors.
Also, stuart I was never into strat-o-matic, I guess I was the videogame generation so I went with Bases Loaded for NES.
“No, but it most certainly brings a smile to my face.â€
“That’s terrible.”
Really? You think Met fans were crying when they heard that Joba went down? Do you think that Tito had to be consoled after he heard the news? Come on. These are heated and often hatred filled rivalries. I hate the Mets and I hope they lose every game left in the season. If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I can live with that.
Damn Stuart!! Why all the anger? Im in Socal as well and all the traffic in the world cant get me bent as much as you are. Im not sure what all the anger is about. Your not going to change people from complaining about the lineup. Everyone has their favorits and least favorites. I for one wouldnt mind Giambi sitting awhile if he’s not going to hit for us. We might as well have Sexson there if all we’re getting is defense. But i can see how people can be upset of him being benched after MAYBE breaking out of another slump. What im really wondering is if there is something going on with Melky. I would have thought he would be back in there today.
Relax man. Its only baseball.
I like the earlier comment calling for realistic expectations. Playoffs this season are a longshot, especially with the condition of the pitching staff. Anyone who truly expects the Yanks to get there this year may be in for disappointment. Hopefully, though, they’ll continue to stay in the race and make September interesting.
billy on the dl
The fact that we’re in contention despite the injuries to our starting pitchers as well as the injury to a catcher that hit .336 last year is itself remarkable.
“If that makes me a bad person, so be it. I can live with that.”
It doesn’t make you a bad person, it just makes you an idiot. It’s one thing hoping teams lose players, but it’s another hoping they get hurt… And Ortiz is different, his injuries are very possibly the result of taking steroids which caused breakdown, so that would serve him right.
But for Billy Wagner, it could be career ending… You like that to happen to people? I love seeing him get beaten on the field and abused, but I wouldn’t want him to get seriously injured.
Yanks need to get 3/4 especially after yesterdays debacle.
“Nady seems to have power to all fields. I like that. Oh yeah, and he’s hot too.”
This is why women should be banned from this blog.
“The fact that we’re in contention despite the injuries to our starting pitchers as well as the injury to a catcher that hit .336 last year is itself remarkable.”
True, but I have to wonder are we closing in on a time when our luck will run out…..
“The fact that we’re in contention despite the injuries to our starting pitchers as well as the injury to a catcher that hit .336 last year is itself remarkable.”
The Joba injury is fresh wait until next week. This team can’t survive on Andy, Moose, Razzy, Giese and Ponson.
I’m also curious as to why so many folks are crucifying Giradi over last night’s 9th inning. Rivera and Veras were unavailable. Bruney had pitched a lot over the weekend. If the game had dragged on, how many innings could Robertson have gone in that heat? Somehow, I think Joe knows the state and condition of his bullpen better than we do.
“This is why women should be banned from this blog.”
Really? How about all of the guy bloggers who go on and on about how hot Erin Andrews is? Should they be banned as well?
ZMAN777,
We will find away!! I cant immagine in my worst nightmare not making the playoffs. If Hughes, Aceves and I hate say the hated one contribute. We can get to the playoffs with mediocre pitching and the offense turning it up a notch.
Signed
Spoiled Yankee Fan
This is why women should be banned from this blog.
And comments about Erin Andrew, Kim Jones and that other woman should just be let slide?
Grow a pair and live with it.
“Nady seems to have power to all fields. I like that. Oh yeah, and he’s hot too.â€
This is why women should be banned from this blog.
Agreed.
SoS—it’s one thing to hope, another to expect. Oh, and Pavano will not pitch a meaningful inning in pinstripes ever again, in my opinion. He’ll find a reason to need more time in the minors.
“But for Billy Wagner, it could be career ending… You like that to happen to people? I love seeing him get beaten on the field and abused, but I wouldn’t want him to get seriously injured.”
Who said that Wagner had a career ending injury? I just read the post on MLB.com and I didn’t see that at all. In fact, here is what Minaya said: “Minaya said the MRI results came as good news because the injury was not more serious, and he said he is hopeful that Wagner’s stint on the DL will only last 15 days.”
And you take that to mean he’s done pitching for the rest of his life? Who’s the idiot now?
E-Man,
Please don’t listen to stuart. He is one of the King Morons here.
There are a ton of broads posting or it seems like there are. maybe that is why the level of discourse is pretty low.
Who makes less contact?
Sexson or Betemit?
Erin Andrews is hot. Anyone that says the same about Kim Jones should be shot.
That said, the ladies can say what they want. I haven’t seen any of them on here posting that don’t also know baseball. In fact, some/most know more than half of the guys that post.
“This is why women should be banned from this blog.
Agreed.”
The only men who want women banned from the blog are the ones who can’t handle listening to their opinions: baseball or otherwise. It’s not like my comment said nothing about Nady’s baseball skills. My comment about his hotness was thrown in for fun.
I love the double standard around here.
So it looks like Laura and I are going to have to spend tonight defending the ability of women to post on this blog?
Lovely.
“And you take that to mean he’s done pitching for the rest of his life? Who’s the idiot now?”
Try to know the situation a little beyond the words in an article. Wagner wasn’t even going to pitch next year if he wasn’t contracted to, but he wants to honor his contract. So being that he didn’t even want to pitch next year, he might very well not because of this injury. That’s called career ending, in case you don’t know that.
I’m just glad this signals the end of the Melky Era.
Defensive replacement is a fine job for him.
Speaking of Andrews, Dan Patrick was asking the media critic from the NY Times about her and how she dresses and interacts with the players. He’s not comfortable with the whole thing. Says you should just dress professionally and not use your “assets”.
Apparently there was a flap in Chicago that we missed? Low cut blouse, a lotta leg showing, and her hand on some subject’s leg?
“How about all of the guy bloggers who go on and on about how hot Erin Andrews is? Should they be banned as well?”
No – guys should be able to discuss hot women on this blog.
But of course – women, on this blog, should feel free to discuss hot women – in fact I encourage it.
Please don’t compare Erin Andrews to Kim Jones. You are embarrassing yourselves.
Does it really matter “who’s hot”, or for that matter, who isn’t? I think it’s a safe bet that no one on this blog will be shagging either Xavier Nady or Erin Andrews anytime soon.
I’m way hotter than all of you, combined…
“But of course – women, on this blog, should feel free to discuss hot women – in fact I encourage it.”
Sorry ladies, but that was funny….
“Trust me word is getting out on Nady right now .334 w/RISP gets around just like Abreu’s .360 + AVG w/ RISP gets around. You will see a different offense tonight. Bank on it”
arod could have david ortiz protecting him,and it wouldn’t matter.
Women are petty and catty and fight and they seem to get personal on attacks and other stuff. We all know them. We went to school with them. We’ve married them. They don’t know sports.
wow. and i thought greenberet and i lowered the level of discourse last night. this might be an all-time low for lohud.
hopefully we get some news about joba soon.
I can’t recall one time that someone here mentioned Erin Andrews.
But the “ladies” seem to mention hotness daily. This isn’t the knitting gossip club.
So…. what you’re saying is, Dan Patrick’s gay… never knew that.
Hey, I comment about Kim Jones’ assets all the time on this blog, as do many of the other guys. Ditto Erin Andrews.
I don’t see why the women on this blog can’t do likewise about the players.
Women discussing hot women before they cat fight.
Nice.
Put me in coach!
“Hey, I comment about Kim Jones’ assets all the time on this blog, as do many of the other guys. Ditto Erin Andrews.”
Because you’re a sexist pig means it should be ok for everyone??
Sound logic.
Wow. I went away for an hour and this place got…..wow. You’d think it was the fifth inning of any game in which we weren’t up 12-0…
Why didn’t Joba just go to my doctor? He would have been out by now…
Giambi is sitting for a AAA pitcher?! He finally hit yesterday and the ball flys out of that ball park..Let the guy play. It is an accomplishment for Sexson if he makes contact…
Does this erudite board hold a position on hermaphrodites? LOL
What? Nady’s not hot? Hitting .400 with 4 HR since joining the Yankees is not hot?
I don’t think I’ve ever heard anything good from a female about anything sports related except for foxy boxing.
my grandmother still has a crush on tino after watching old timers day… yesterday, i got to listen to her rant about how ‘beautiful’ he looked…
I’m sorry if this has already been discussed, but can someone enlighten me as to what IPK did to alienate Cashman and Girardi during his time with the big club? Does he not take instruction well? Did he piss off his teammates? Does anyone actually know? I am not really pumped about seeing him pitching for the Yankees again anytime soon, but that’s just because my personal preference is to have guys who throw harder rather than nibble. It just seems like Cash and Girardi’s comments on IPK indicate that the problems run deeper than his on the field performance. Thanks in advance.
Weren’t there some women on the blog a few weeks ago complaining about guys that were “complimenting” Erin Andrews?
Giambi is sitting for a AAA pitcher?! He finally hit yesterday and the ball flys out of that ball park..Let the guy play. It is an accomplishment for Sexson if he makes contact…
Why? There’s a lefty on the mound! Who may last 5 innings! Girardi is a regular Miller Huggins.
Girls can post whatever they want here. Doesn’t mean they have to be listened to or responded to or taken seriously.
Sexson is a tool, but if you don’t play him against the occasional lefty, when do you? And, if the answer is never, then bring up Gardner.
Chris NY,
Actually, DP asked the question and the NYT guy answered it. Sorry shoulda been clearer. But the antecedent (?) was the guy from the Times.
“Does it really matter “who’s hotâ€, or for that matter, who isn’t? I think it’s a safe bet that no one on this blog will be shagging either Xavier Nady or Erin Andrews anytime soon.”
Nope, but theres no reason why it can’t be discussed on here either.
”... can someone enlighten me as to what IPK did to alienate Cashman and Girardi during his time with the big club?”
Maybe Cash/Joe want him to really earn his way back – get some fire in the belly.
That – and not winning a single game this season.
Giambi will be pinhc hitting for Christian in the 6th inning.
How enlightened of you, Gordo.
Wow all this and the game hasnt even started yet. I just want to know if we can still say “Damon throws like a girl”. Or is that a compliment these days?
I do agree that some of the women here know more about the game than half the guys here. Not more than me off coarse.
“But of course – women, on this blog, should feel free to discuss hot women – in fact I encourage it.”
Maybe Kim Jones and Aaron Andrews can. Pay per view.
saucY,
Is she too blind to see Tino’s fabulous gut?
I kinda like it when the ladies post their thoughts and opinions. Like they know anything. Keep ‘em comin’ Becca and Angel and mel and trisha and whoever else. It’s cute.
You can discuss whatever you like. It just seems that this topic sets some people off. Personally, I do think Erin Andrews is attractive, but sadly her looks are probably the biggest reason for her career rise.
“How enlightened of you, Gordo.”
It’s sports, babe. It isn’t politically correct and it shouldn’t be. Deal with it. There’s no crying in baseball, babe.
There is a special place in my heart for female sports fans, and I welcome them in spades on here. I love intelligent female sports fans, as they often bring the facts and reality without the hyperbole of the guys.
It’s not my fault half this blog probably cowers into the fetal position at the sight of a girl.
I’m kidding. I’m sure a few of you do get the babes.
MY comment didn’t attempt to justify being a “sexist pig,” Jersey. (But neither do I deny it either.)
Rather, I was commenting on this blog’s protocol. Namely, that I can hardly decry this blog’s female contributors for confessing their attraction to this player or that player, because I do likewise. Condemning them would amount to hypocrisy on my part or on the part of anyone else who has made similar comments about Kim Jones.
I leave it to sanctimonious people like you, Jersey, to play the role of prig and appoint yourself the blog’s moral arbiter.
Lol, I was only kidding anyway mel.
”(and there’s no “T†in sexon, by the way.)”
Yes, kasey – but there are 2 ’s’s – bitter people in glass houses shouldn’t throw stones.
Winslow’s hot!
“I do agree that some of the women here know more about the game than half the guys here. Not more than me off coarse.”
Luckily the ladies know more grammar than you. “off coarse” LOL.
lol mel. if i pointed that out, i probably wouldn’t have gone home with a bag of (delicious) meatballs…
Christ half of you lot need to get out of mommy’s basement.
Breaking news on NY Post website says that Joba’s been sent to see a shoulder specialist.
So as long as Killing Schilling does it or says it, it is A-OK. Keep that in mind people. Always think what would Kill Schilling do???
And he is a sexist who oogles working women. So that’s good to go.
“Breaking news on NY Post website says that Joba’s been sent to see a shoulder specialist.”
He’s not pitching again in 2008. We should accept it now and move on.
Joba or Kennedy/Igawa/Pavano.
Damn you, Baseball Gods. Damn you.
Laura – yes, you are a bad person. That’s not the type of karma you want to throw around while we’re waiting on Joba’s injury report.
Joba was fun while he lasted. We’ll see him opening day 2009. Hopefully healthy.
btw, i appreciate the women here pointing out which players are hot.
how the hell else am i going to decide on my next haircut???
Wow, calm down. Wouldn’t it make sense to see a shoulder specialist for an injured shoulder? That tells us NOTHING.
That’s bad. No way to get around that.
There is nothing on the Post site. Liar.
Yeah, because you contribute so much around here.
saucY,
The fade is out and the X is in.
Wouldn’t you want to send your top, young starter to a specialist? Or, should he just visit his internist for an opinion?
I’m sure they will send his results to 3 shoulder specialists.
Why wouldn’t they????
I won’t believe anything unless I hear it from Peter or someone who actually has some credibility around here.
“There is nothing on the Post site. Liar.”
There is, and we’re sending you to see a proctologist.
I don’t draw moral conclusions, or cast moral judgments, about others, Jersey, whether to exonerate them or to condemn them.
I leave that to pious and self-appointed moral arbiters like you, Jersey.
Maybe he first received an MRI then was sent to the specialist because of the results of the MRI.
Just because you are here daily and sitting on a computer every single game and throwing 2 cents around on whatever topic you think you know, doesn’t mean you are contributing, Angel babe.
I think a collective verse of Kumbayah is needed right now. “Someone’s angry Lord . . .”
What would be bad is if they sent him to a neuro-surgeon. Did anyone expect them not to have Joba poked and prodded by every shoulder expert not at the Olympics?
Focus on your breathing and relax.
What injured pitcher doesn’t say Dr. Andrews?
guys, it really is on the Post site.
not much you can say about that. you’ve got a shoulder problem, you go see a shoulder specialist. we know no more or less than we did before.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052008/sports/yankees/joba_on_way_to_see_dr__andrews_123144.htm
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052008/sports/yankees/joba_on_way_to_see_dr__andrews_123144.htm
JOBA ON WAY TO SEE DR. ANDREWS
INJURED SHOULDER NEEDS SECOND LOOK
PS
August 5th, 2008 at 6:12 pm
There is nothing on the Post site. Liar.
Actually there is. But its basically the usual speculation, and stuff thats hardly surprising or worthy of a breaking news banner.
Rasner can replace Joba for a few starts. Kennedy after that when he is ready. The team isn’t done for without one player.
Perhaps it’s Dr. Erin Andrews?
and, by “guys,” i mean everyone. my being married to someone with a certificate in Women’s Studies does not preclude me from some unfortunate minor misogynistic tendencies. my apologies.
from the Post:
Chamberlain, who left last night’s game against Texas with stifness in his right shoulder, had an MRI exam at Columbia Presbyterian today. The Yankees said no imformation on the result would be released.
However, sources close to the team said the 22-year-old will be examined by the famed orthopedist.
After Monday’s game, Joe Girardi and Chamberlain – the cornerstone of the Yankees’ pitching future – said the pain was near the deltoid muscle in the front of his upper arm.
“They did some (resistance) tests and nothing is weak,”
Chamberlain said after Marlon Byrd’s game-winning, two-out, bottom-of-the-ninth grand slam off Damaso Marte carried the Rangers to a 9-5 win.
After giving up a three-run homer to Michael Young in the fifth inning, Chamberlain fanned Josh Hamilton and was working to Byrd when he felt something “grab” in the arm. When he started shaking his arm, Girardi and trainer Steve Donahue went to the mound.
According to Girardi, Chamberlain will miss at least Saturday’s start against the Angels in Anaheim, Calif. With Dan Giese replacing Darrell Rasner for Friday night’s start and Rasner suffering from a blood blister on the right index finger, the Yankees will need to get creative to find Chamberlain’s replacement.
That could mean promoting Alfredo Aceves or Ian Kennedy from Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre.
“It’s a little stiff, that’s why I am going back and get it straightened out,” said Chamberlain, who had made five straight quality starts.
“Hopefully I will miss one (start) if that’s the case,” Chamberlain said Monday.
“Life is too short to worry, the strength is good. You hope everything is OK.”
read the article on the post, it is there. Home page “breaking news.”
But why would you assume this isn’t standard procedure? The guy left the game with shoulder stiffness, so he’s going to see a specialist to see what exactly is wrong. MRI machine’s don’t talk. Gotta see the doctor.
John Gotti Jr was in the mob????
How is it breaking news that Joba is seeing Andrews? I thought that was assumed?
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08052008/sports/yankees/joba_on_way_to_see_dr__andrews_123144.htm
the happiest guy today is ponson… now theres no way hes losing his job, considering they are 3 spots up for grabs now, and with hughes 3 weeks away and with the orginization ticked off at kennedy, ponson is probably breathing a sigh of relief—- same with rasner, hes the hybrid starter/reliever now.
Jorge Steinbrenner
August 5th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
“guys, it really is on the Post site.
not much you can say about that. you’ve got a shoulder problem, you go see a shoulder specialist. we know no more or less than we did before.”
Exactly. Its news thats hardly worthy of a breaking news banner, though.
Maybe a Stating the Bloody Obvious banner?
“Perhaps it’s Dr. Erin Andrews?”
She’s hot!
mel, i’ll need a few weeks to grow it now
ladies, no need to go out for at lease a couple weeks !
if there’s no loss of strength, and it hurts, it has to be muscular. that just makes common sense to me….but who knows.
As Joba said “Life is too short to worry…”
Dr Erin Andrews. So hot. I wish she were in texas doing the game. YES should hire her.
“I do agree that some of the women here know more about the game than half the guys here. Not more than me off coarse.â€
“Luckily the ladies know more grammar than you. “off coarse†LOL.’
But Boxy. Thats how i spelled it. I triple checked it. And yes, mel and others do correct me often. Actually recently they have just accepted it.
Gordo is there a reason why you are a condescending dbag?
thanks mark for ruining my night with those facts.
Eh, don’t worry Jorge. Calling everyone “guys” isn’t a sexist act in my mind, i’m guilty of it too, lol.
Its tame, compared to some of the stupid posts here at the moment, thats for sure.
I respect everyone’s opinion, of course….however, I don’t see why one would be happy to see another team’s player injured.
I’ve always been of the mindset that I would much rather have a Red Sox player/prospect fizzle out as a prospect rather than hurt themselves and not live up to their full potential.
In other words, I’d love it much more if Buchholz never makes it as a big-league pitcher just based on his own ability than have him not make it based on a stupid injury that derailed his career.
As for Wagner, I just don’t really care – Mets mean little to me. I’ve always said that as long as the Mets don’t win four World Series games, I don’t care what else they do. It has little effect on the Yankees, afterall.
Have any of you even read the article? The article actually sounds optimistic. Jesus christ.
Okay, she’s attractive and all, but Erin Andrews is not quite deserving of all this attention, is she?
“the happiest guy today is ponson”
They’ve put Rolling Rock in the water coolers?!
Yeah, I’m not too into Erin Andrews either. Don’t really get it.
The last time Joba saw Andrews, she rolled her eyes with the camera rolling.
I have no clue what the visit to Dr. Andrews says or doesn’t say. All I know is that the “everyone sees Dr. Andrews” POV is absolutely true, considering they even used to claim it when someone was injured in pro wrestling back when they still tried to hide it was fake.
“Road Warrior Animal’s going to have to see Dr. James Andrews about that elbow….”
“and with hughes 3 weeks away ”
Hughes is on an 80 pitch pitch-count his next start at SWB.
He could come up the following start (or actually they brought up Joba earlier than that).
“Eh, don’t worry Jorge. Calling everyone “guys†isn’t a sexist act in my mind, i’m guilty of it too, lol.
Its tame, compared to some of the stupid posts here at the moment, thats for sure.”
I manage an all-female staff. I still say “guys” half the time and call them “dude” way too much.
Like I said, I married a smart cookie with a nose ring. I know better.
Patrick â„¢
August 5th, 2008 at 6:20 pm
“Gordo is there a reason why you are a condescending dbag?”
Yes.
Because he’s also a simpering sycophant, Patrick. See?
Gordo
August 3rd, 2008 at 3:34 pm
Trisha. Do not listen to the negative defeatists like SJ44. This game proves that.
Dan Graziano: Loss of Joba Chamberlain wouldn’t doom Yankees’ playoff chances
http://www.nj.com/sports/ledger/graziano/index.ssf/2008/08/loss_of_joba_chamberlain_would.html
“Think of it this way. Even if he’s fully healthy and returns in five days, Chamberlain’s only going to make what? 10 more starts for the Yankees this year? They’re 8-4 in the 12 starts he’s made so far, so let’s say for the sake of argument that they’d go 7-3 in the remaining 10 if he made them. Given their schedule, that’s probably pretty generous, but let’s just go there for the sake of argument.
So if he’s out for the year, who replaces him? Darrell Rasner? Ian Kennedy? Phil Hughes? Carl Pavano? If it’s any one or any combination of those guys, what’s the worst you can expect the Yankees to do in the 10 starts they spend filling in for Joba? I’m going to say 5-5, worst. The Yankees are an above-.500 team with a strong offense and a strong bullpen. They’d find a way to patch it together.
So given those figures, the loss of Chamberlain for the remainder of the regular season would make the Yankees two games worse the rest of the way than they’d be with him making his regular turn. And that’s assuming the best for Chamberlain and the worst for his replacements.”
For all the Andrews-obsessed. Maybe this will close the book on the good Doctor. Wow, a member of the Dazzlers! LOL
Erin Andrews (born May 4, 1978 in Lewiston, Maine) is a television sports reporter.
Andrews joined ESPN in May 2004 as a reporter for the network’s National Hockey League coverage.[1] Since the 2004 season, Andrews has served as sideline reporter for the ESPN College Football Saturday telecast, the Saturday Primetime college basketball game and Big Ten college basketball coverage.[1] In 2005, she added Major League Baseball sideline reporting to her duties. She also provides reports and features on Great Outdoor Games coverage. She also covers Men’s college baseball, and is a familiar sight during the College World Series.
In 2007, she was voted “America’s Sexiest Sportscaster” by Playboy Magazine. [2]
Andrews graduated from the University of Florida with a degree in telecommunications in 2000. While there she was a member of the Zeta Tau Alpha sorority.[3] Andrews was also a member of the Dazzlers, the Gator basketball dance team, from 1997–2000.[1]
She began her career with her FSN Florida as a freelance reporter from 2000–01 before serving as a Tampa Bay Lightning reporter for the Sunshine Network from 2001–02.[1] Andrews then worked as a studio host for Turner Sports from 2002–2004, covering the Atlanta Braves and college football for TBS and Atlanta Thrashers and Atlanta Hawks for Turner South.[1]
She is represented by the sports agency Career Sports & Entertainment in Atlanta, GA. [1]
Seriously, if people think the season is over already, why bother watching?
Gordo’s posts are especially amusing considering that this is the first time I’ve posted on here today. I have a job that keeps me fairly busy during business hours and I don’t have time to post during the day.
I say “guys” all the time. It’s a product of being from Jersey, not anything sexist.
Though of course I’m a woman, so I obviously don’t know anything.
This is just weird:
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Rick-Sutcliffe-is-concerned-for-Erin-Andrews-sk?urn=mlb,87572
“Okay, she’s attractive and all, but Erin Andrews is not quite deserving of all this attention, is she?”
Theres not much to compare her to. I think they should go to Nascar(havnt watched one race in my life)and grab some of those women drivers. Like that girl that was getting in a cat fight with the popular race car girl.
Does anybody know if Milton Bradley is in the starting lineup tonight?
This is probably good news regarding Joba.
There was no doubt he was going to see a shoulder specialist and that it was probably going to be James Andrews.
Over the course of his career Joba could be worth $500M to the yankees. They are not going to take any chances with him.
The more encouraging part of this is that the story was actually leaked now.
This story was leaked to the Post by the Yankees. The fact that he’s going for another opinion isn’t really the thing you want to know. What really matters is what the MRI showed. If his rotator cuff and labrum are ok then its fine.
With the way the yankees are on injuries I don’t see them letting this story leak unless they knew the MRI looked OK. If the MRI looked bad and he had to go for an evaluation on surgery I doubt the yankees let this story leak.
Leaking this story is their way of saying that they are going to do this medical evaluation in their own way and that it’s going to take some time. They are going to wait to get multiple medical opinions and then make a decision on what to do with Joba.
Just a guess but the yankees are so good with controlling information leaks like this don’t make it to the press unless the front office wants them to.
Now that I know Erin was a Dazzler in college, my whole outlook has changed!
“Seriously, if people think the season is over already, why bother watching?”
I wonder what the over/under is on what percentage of those posts are pure troll.
For those that aren’t, how exactly did you survive the late 80’s and early 90’s, other than switching to a Mets cap?
Selene Steele = wayyyyy hotter than Erin Andrews
CB: I hope so.
You said yesteday what I think is still the best sign: no loss of strength or velocity. It sounds muscular, and it doesn’t sound like it’s hurting so much that it’s serious.
Dr. Andrews is not the Yankees primary ortho. That means, he’s giving a second opinion on what the MRI found today.
Its probably been requested by Joba’s side (ie: Joba and his agents) to seek his opinion. They have used Dr. Andrews in the past for their clients often.
What we know is the following:
1. Its not a “cramp” as some hoped/believed on this blog this morning.
2. They found something in there. If not, no need for another opinion.
The seriousness of it? Who knows at this point. It is significant enough though to seek a second opinion.
Hopefully, its something that can be rehabbed without surgery.
Contrary to popular belief, Dr. Andrews is known for using surgery as a last, not first, resort.
Hopefully, that’s the case here.
Good point, Jorge.