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Update on Chien-Ming Wang

Posted by: Peter Abraham - Posted in Misc on Aug 06, 2008 Print This Post Print This Post | Email This Post Email This Post

Chien-Ming Wang was examined by the foot specialist again yesterday. Some of the Taiwanese media spoke to him afterward. Here is what they found out:

Wang will remain on crutches and in the large brace he has been wearing. But he can put a little more weight on his foot. He also picked up the customized cushioned insole to wear in his shoe.

Wang told them that he’s feeling great and there’s no pain at all. His only complaint is that his left leg is so much bigger than than the right one.

It’s Aug. 6 and he’s on crutches and hasn’t picked up a baseball since June 12. The next time you see the Wanger will be in spring training. That’s evident.

 
 

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102 Responses to “Update on Chien-Ming Wang”

  1. Matt August 6th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    Didnt’ Cashman announce last week Wanger was done for the season?

  2. Someone Else August 6th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    :-(

    What a horrible season, beginning to end.

  3. grafxkid August 6th, 2008 at 3:58 pm

    Still trying my hardest to keep hope alive for a post season birth this year…

  4. Someone Else August 6th, 2008 at 3:59 pm

    Man, the Indians and Tigers’ bullpens both STINK.

  5. Neil August 6th, 2008 at 4:00 pm

    That’s awful by Eric Wedge to have that kid try to close the game. Embarrassing.

  6. CUYanks August 6th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    I don’t get why they can’t leave Perez in as closer. He clearly has the best stuff out there.

  7. Laura - Goodbye Manny! Hello PostSeason!! August 6th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    So what are the Yankees going to do next year when Interleague rears it’s ugly head? Probably issue a “no hitting” rule to all pitchers.

  8. Someone Else August 6th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    “That’s awful by Eric Wedge to have that kid try to close the game. Embarrassing.”

    Who else should he have used? Failed closer #1? #2? #3? They all stink.

  9. Nick in SF August 6th, 2008 at 4:02 pm

    So you’re saying they didn’t amputate? These days that counts as good news.

  10. S.A.-We need you back soon Phil Hughes. This offense is still offensive. August 6th, 2008 at 4:03 pm

    Damn you Edward Mujica

  11. CUYanks August 6th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Someone else,

    Rafael Perez has been effective. He’s obsessed with the lefty lefty matchups like all managers.

  12. Wangawa August 6th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Cleveland is just giving this game away to the Rays. Unfortunate.

  13. Someone Else August 6th, 2008 at 4:04 pm

    Boom. 10-7 Rays win.

  14. stuart August 6th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Wang on the Dl 3 straight seasons.. His injury really really hurt. Do not give me the age BS, the guy is 28 now. The Yanks have done everything right with this guy he just cannot stay healthy.

    Tampa scrubs scoring 3 in a flash, they have everything going there way, the cleveland pen is as bad as the tigers… yech…..

  15. David August 6th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    If the Yanks somehow back into the Wild Card, any chance Wang can pitch in October?

  16. Neil August 6th, 2008 at 4:05 pm

    Six runs in the bottom of the ninth without recording an out. Impressive stuff.

  17. MikeEff ( X FINALLY bats 5th) August 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    anyone still hoping for a tampa collapse should take note that they came back from a 3 run deficit in the 9th to beat the tribe ( they scored 6 in the 9th) SAD

  18. ROG August 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Hey stuart, there’s an entry on the last thread just for you…..Everyone should take notice

  19. Nick in SF August 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    Thanks for the help, Cleveland. Much obliged.

  20. vinny-b (yes network: please STOP the Ford Edge/jeter commercials) August 6th, 2008 at 4:06 pm

    “August 6th, 2008 at 4:05 pm
    If the Yanks somehow back into the Wild Card, any chance Wang can pitch in October?”

    no.

  21. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop (Please read my blog) August 6th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Don’t give up yet on the season. The season is full of twists and turns.

  22. stuart August 6th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    6 runs in the 9th in a flash..

    as bleak as things look in yankee land imagine being a indians fan…

    ouch…

  23. pat August 6th, 2008 at 4:07 pm

    Didn’t alot of the “experts” pick the Indians to win it all pre-season on ESPN?

  24. JohnM August 6th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    Wang must be deflated.

  25. Chris August 6th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    “Wang on the Dl 3 straight seasons.. His injury really really hurt. Do not give me the age BS, the guy is 28 now. The Yanks have done everything right with this guy he just cannot stay healthy.”

    Except he wasn’t on the DL in 3 straight seasons. He wasn’t on the DL at all in 2006.

  26. John August 6th, 2008 at 4:08 pm

    So you mean we found a manager worse than Girardi?

  27. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop (Please read my blog) August 6th, 2008 at 4:09 pm

    I’m still predicting that the Rays will hit a rough stretch before this month is over. Mark my words.

  28. Someone Else August 6th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    “Wang on the Dl 3 straight seasons.. His injury really really hurt. Do not give me the age BS, the guy is 28 now. The Yanks have done everything right with this guy he just cannot stay healthy.”

    Are you stupid?

    Wang’s injury this year was as fluky as it gets. It’s hardly evidence of being ‘injury-prone’ or any other BS uneducated brats want to throw around.

  29. Andrew August 6th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    Yeah the same experts said that the Tigers were going to be unstoppable as well.

  30. TKinDC August 6th, 2008 at 4:10 pm

    “Wang on the Dl 3 straight seasons.. His injury really really hurt. Do not give me the age BS, the guy is 28 now. The Yanks have done everything right with this guy he just cannot stay healthy.”

    38 wins in 2006 and 2007. Do you even think before you post this BS?

  31. Jeremy August 6th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    Joba is officially on the 15-day DL.
    Just heard it on the michael kay show.

  32. saucY August 6th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    “Six runs in the bottom of the ninth without recording an out. Impressive stuff.”

    they should just bring borowski back already… it took them 2 guys to do today what borowski could do alone!

  33. miggs (NO to Teixeira) (Please ban the Hair Dresser) August 6th, 2008 at 4:11 pm

    MadDog Russo is such an ass.

    The guy hears Tampa pulled it out 10-7 and reaches over and puts on a Rays hat.

    Are you kidding me?

  34. Bombshell August 6th, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Eric Wedge is a disgrace. You could tell he didn’t care what happened in the 9th inning today. So what if his team is out of the race, they’re gonna bomb games now to the Rays?

  35. miggs (NO to Teixeira) (Please ban the Hair Dresser) August 6th, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Heyman has a Tampa hat too?

    This is absurd.

  36. S.A.-We need you back soon Phil Hughes. This offense is still offensive. August 6th, 2008 at 4:12 pm

    Wang on the Dl 3 straight seasons.. His injury really really hurt. Do not give me the age BS, the guy is 28 now. The Yanks have done everything right with this guy he just cannot stay healthy.

    What?
    Think first then type second

  37. Peter Rabbit August 6th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    With one leg being so much smaller than the other, there is absolutely no way I want him pitching this year.

    Talk about a mechanics nightmare.

  38. Hughes Dynasty August 6th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    What a disaster this season has been.

    Wouldn’t surprise me one bit if Cashman walked away after this season… not because of Hank, but because this mess might not be repairable and we might be just as bad next year, and he feels helpless not knowing how to fix this team and get it back to legit contention. And Cashman might use this as an opportunity to bolt to LA or Philly.

    It’s sad because this was supposed to be a rebuilding year, but we’re right back to square one next year with the young pitching. Joba has proven he is legit, but will be on a tight IP cap next year, again.

  39. August August 6th, 2008 at 4:14 pm

    On top of all the bad news, Tampa has a game like this. Bottom of the ninth, three down, double,double, homer, single, walk, homer. Up 3. Game over. The kind of game that can pump up a team for a month.

  40. stuart August 6th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    the guys has been hurt sorry 2 yrs in a row not 3(did have arm surgery a few yrs. earlier).. freaky injury the guy was running the damn bases and gets hurt…..

    TK he did win 38 games so. does not negate he gets hurt all the damn time…..

    why is the truth so hard to comprehend????

  41. Scorpio August 6th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    “Wang on the Dl 3 straight seasons.. His injury really really hurt. Do not give me the age BS, the guy is 28 now. The Yanks have done everything right with this guy he just cannot stay healthy.”

    This deserves to go into the Hall of S tupid Statements.

  42. S.o.S.27 August 6th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    Some guys have all the luck. Looking at the Rays lineup doesnt strike fear to me. They are working on all cylinders. It might be us and the red sox vying for a wild card spot. It might take a boston massacre take 3 to get there.

    Miggs,
    What is up my brother. Have you headed east yet? YES NO ON TEX.

  43. #9 August 6th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    “If the Yanks somehow back into the Wild Card, any chance Wang can pitch in October?”

    Only if he gets traded to Angels…

  44. Jackie Jensen August 6th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    >>Joba is officially on the 15-day DL.

  45. TKinDC August 6th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    “TK he did win 38 games so. does not negate he gets hurt all the damn time…..

    why is the truth so hard to comprehend????”

    It is hard to believe that you are so obtuse – nobody won more games than Wang and you are calling him fragile. We know fragile – his name is Pavano.

  46. Jackie Jensen August 6th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    Putting him on the 15 day DL is ‘good news,’ however faint.

    If they were absolutely sure Joba was done for the season, they would have put him on the 60 Day DL to clear a spot on the 40 man roster.

    Of course, they might be waiting for Andrews’ opinion before making the final move.

  47. S.o.S.27 August 6th, 2008 at 4:17 pm

    “miggs (NO to Teixeira) (Please ban the Hair Dresser) ”

    One in bold and not the other. Can the real miggs please stand up?

  48. Brandon (Jetes GIDP count: *19) (Starting to believe Arod will never win a championship ) (OH F*** IT JUST FIRE LONG ALREADY !) August 6th, 2008 at 4:18 pm

    Joba is officially on the 15-day DL.

    Where who said that ? If that’s true it’s good news

  49. stuart August 6th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    Pavano is not fragile he is a joke.. Wang is fragile… DL 2 straight yrs.. shoulder surgery a while ago.

    If you clowns cannot deal with the truth to bad, Wang is a very GOOD pitcher that is not my point my point is he needs to stay healthy and so far has not done that..This is not an outrageous statement….

  50. Nick in SF August 6th, 2008 at 4:19 pm

    Wang gets hurt all the… time?

    Why is the truth so hard to comprehend?

    Wha?

  51. Wangawa August 6th, 2008 at 4:21 pm

    Even if the Rays hit a rough patch in September, they’re building up such a cushion right now that it won’t even matter that much.

  52. HR Predictions August 6th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    Injuries to the yankees…

    -Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Brian Bruney, A-rod, Jorge, Matsui, Damon, Chien-Meng, Joba, and probably more. If we dont make the playoffs, at least we have a reason.
    Next Year were gonna be amazing.

  53. stuart August 6th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    I did not say all the time I said more then he should…

    again this is not an outrageous statement…

  54. TKinDC August 6th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    stuart –

    You have no clue whatsoever – he has pitched to more wins in the last two years than anyone else – so go flame every other teams board about their aces being fragile, because Wang is the leader in the clubhouse.

  55. ROG August 6th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    As stated on the previous topic,,,Stuart knows jack, he’s a blowhard….Did anyone read his dribble last night as well as today……

  56. Kevin August 6th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    “Putting him on the 15 day DL is ‘good news,’ however faint.

    If they were absolutely sure Joba was done for the season, they would have put him on the 60 Day DL to clear a spot on the 40 man roster.

    Of course, they might be waiting for Andrews’ opinion before making the final move.”

    No, they already have two spots open on the 40 man, plus Posada could always be put on there. Don’t overanylize this. It means nothing, and if he is done they could always shift him right over to the 60.

  57. S.o.S.27 August 6th, 2008 at 4:23 pm

    Stuart you are fighting a losing battle on this one.

    Question to all,
    I dont know if anyone has answered this already. If Joba cant go this year. I see he only has 89 innings pitched. Does he go back to the bullpen come 09 and do it all over?

  58. TKinDC August 6th, 2008 at 4:24 pm

    “I did not say all the time I said more then he should…

    again this is not an outrageous statement…”

    If you could translate this into english that would help the learning process for people not in your universe.

  59. Rob August 6th, 2008 at 4:25 pm

    Should Wang have just had season ending surgery? Or is his rehabbing suppose to be just as effective?

  60. stuart August 6th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    Tk f yourself… again read my posts the 28 yr old ace needs to pitch.. he cannot get hurt running almost in place around the bases. if he wants to make huge dollars they need him to be more durable..

    this injury has cost Wangs wallet a bunch of green..

    if this is an outrageous commentary people like TK are even dumber then I thought…

  61. S.A.-We need you back soon Phil Hughes. This offense is still offensive. August 6th, 2008 at 4:26 pm

    stuart August 6th, 2008 at 4:15 pm

    the guys has been hurt sorry 2 yrs in a row not 3(did have arm surgery a few yrs. earlier).. freaky injury the guy was running the damn bases and gets hurt…..
    TK he did win 38 games so. does not negate he gets hurt all the damn time…..

    stuart August 6th, 2008 at 4:22 pm

    I did not say all the time I said more then he should…

    What?? :?

  62. Drive 4-5 August 6th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    I give Brian Cashman a lot of credit for not giving up this year.

    When putting together the roster last winter he obviously made a huge error in judgement when he relied on 2 young pitchers. Especially because they were both rushed to the majors and unprepared for the pressure. He overvalued many Yankee prospects. Also, it took hom more than half the season to place a left handed reliever in the bullpen. There are other curiosities to the composition of the roster, such as the abundance of DH’s and a lack of defense at 1st base.

    However, he should be given credit for working hard to plug the holes he ( and injuries) helped create. If the Yankees don’t make the playoffs this year, I’m comfortable that Cashman at least gave it his best effort to win this year. I’d rather have that than have the team simply rebuilding without making an effort to win in 2008.

  63. S.o.S.27 August 6th, 2008 at 4:27 pm

    “-Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Brian Bruney, A-rod, Jorge, Matsui, Damon, Chien-Meng, Joba, and probably more. If we dont make the playoffs, at least we have a reason.
    Next Year were gonna be amazing.”

    Yes as long as we dont repeat the last 3 years and have half the team on the dl. Oh yeah and as long as our older guys continue to visit the fountain of youth. Our all stars arent getting any younger.

  64. dontfirecash August 6th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    If I recall correctly Wang started ’07 on DL with a pulled hamstring and missed the month of April. Hardly a devastating injury. He definitely isn’t fragile.

  65. Jorge Steinbrenner August 6th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    “Putting him on the 15 day DL is ‘good news,’ however faint.

    If they were absolutely sure Joba was done for the season, they would have put him on the 60 Day DL to clear a spot on the 40 man roster.

    Of course, they might be waiting for Andrews’ opinion before making the final move.”

    means nothing, as far as i’m concerned. i think a lot of guys start on the 15 and then move to the 60.

    i think it’s been more of a rollercoaster of a year than anything else, and one where you hoped to see so many things that you’re now resigned to waiting until next year on.

    it’s a rollercoaster 3/4 of baseball fans wish they were on with their teams, though. the highs, and continued potential, have been, and still are, damn good.

  66. dontfirecash August 6th, 2008 at 4:29 pm

    Brian Bruney is definitely not a reason to be excited about next year. Did you see the guy last night?

  67. Clay Buchholz stole my laptop (Please read my blog) August 6th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    I’m still predicting that the Rays will hit a rough stretch before this month is over. Mark my words.

    Did you mark my words? Mark them!

  68. stuart August 6th, 2008 at 4:30 pm

    3 injuries in 5 yrs. 2 season ending injuries is that not a problem… missing 1 full season(shoulder injury), 1/2 of another season(lisfranc) and 1 other DL stint in a 5 yr period is that clemens like durability?

    Or is that a problem??

    I will have to read my posts even closer since we have the censors reviewing evry word I type…Imagine I commited the sin of saying all the damn time showing my frustration oh my god discredit every thing I say morons…..

  69. Bombshell August 6th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    “Injuries to the yankees…

    -Phil Hughes, Ian Kennedy, Brian Bruney, A-rod, Jorge, Matsui, Damon, Chien-Meng, Joba, and probably more. If we dont make the playoffs, at least we have a reason.
    Next Year were gonna be amazing.”

    The thing is…we’ve said that every November and December for years now. And still we don’t win anything. The reason? We overrate and overhype WAY too many of our young prospects. If I had a dime for every “this guy will come up and hit .300 and will be the difference maker” or “this kid could win 10 games next year” comment over the last 4-5 years I would be rolling in it. Just because we have some good young talent it does not mean we will dominate in ’09. If you need reminders just look at the posts from this winter and spring about Hughes/Kennedy. There are way too many question marks going into next year for people to come out and say we are the team to beat or something like that.

  70. ROG August 6th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    TK you must be in the stupid column along with CB, Pat M , SJ and the others who cannot understand where this frustrated little leaguer is coming from…..Clueless Stu…

  71. Jorge Steinbrenner August 6th, 2008 at 4:31 pm

    “When putting together the roster last winter he obviously made a huge error in judgement when he relied on 2 young pitchers.”

    Again, this is an “error in judgement” a lot of teams don’t even have a choice in making every year. Imagine being Fredi Gonzalez and having to decide on the Marlin rotation every year.

    “Gee, is Rich Vanden Hurk my #3, #4, or #5?”

  72. stuart August 6th, 2008 at 4:33 pm

    Wrong Rog I like SJ posts.. but you can take his place in the clueless column.. CB I do not recall his posts but again you can replace SJ in the stupid posts.. SJ posts are a little to panicky for me but quite good..

  73. Jorge Steinbrenner August 6th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    “TK you must be in the stupid column along with CB, Pat M , SJ and the others who cannot understand where this frustrated little leaguer is coming from…..Clueless Stu…”

    yeah, those guys know aboslutely nothing about baseball, Rog….

    if you actually believe those guys are the stupid ones, you’ve got a lot to learn about baseball.

  74. S.o.S.27 August 6th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    “If I recall correctly Wang started ‘07 on DL with a pulled hamstring and missed the month of April. Hardly a devastating injury. He definitely isn’t fragile.”

    2 of the 3 injuries were leg injuries. Maybe they should have a pinch runner standing on home plate waiting for him to make contact. Better yet. Tell him not to swing at all. Sorry that would possibly get him walked. Make him swing 3 times before the pitch is even thrown. Not worth losing our ace just to get a runner on base.

  75. Nick in SF August 6th, 2008 at 4:34 pm

    stuart, I’m not trying to pile on here, but would you consider utilizing some type of stuart-to-english program when you post here? Just so that we know when “all the time” isn’t supposed to mean “all the time” and when it is supposed to mean “all the time”.

    But your point that Wang wouldn’t have hurt his foot runnning the bases if he was an ace is duly noted.

  76. TKinDC August 6th, 2008 at 4:37 pm

    Stuart-

    Since you don’t really care for facts – (nice clean up on the most recent post) or objectivity.

    I think profanity is a smart and persuasive way to go – “Tk f yourself… again read my posts the 28 yr old ace needs to pitch.”

    But – CMW won 38 games in 2006-7 more than anyone else. What?

    “if he wants to make huge dollars they need him to be more durable..”

    Find me that quote where CMW is demanding any number of dollars?

    hello?

  77. saucY August 6th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    “I dont know if anyone has answered this already. If Joba cant go this year. I see he only has 89 innings pitched. Does he go back to the bullpen come 09 and do it all over?”

    I guess Winter league might be an option, no?

  78. Minty August 6th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    Joba may have to do what Papelbon did because of his shoulder.

  79. Jorge Steinbrenner August 6th, 2008 at 4:41 pm

    “again read my posts the 28 yr old ace needs to pitch.. he cannot get hurt running almost in place around the bases. if he wants to make huge dollars they need him to be more durable..

    this injury has cost Wangs wallet a bunch of green..”

    “how dare Wang hurt his foot!”
    “he’s fragile!”
    “hey, is A.J. Burnett available?”

    telling a guy he can’t hurt his foot and isn’t a good player because he did…..wow. are you going to blame Tim Hudson for needing TJ as well?

  80. S.o.S.27 August 6th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    “stuart, I’m not trying to pile on here, but would you consider utilizing some type of stuart-to-english program when you post here? Just so that we know when “all the time” isn’t supposed to mean “all the time” and when it is supposed to mean “all the time”.

    But your point that Wang wouldn’t have hurt his foot runnning the bases if he was an ace is duly noted.”

    Stop piling on nick.

  81. Carl August 6th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    stuart, I’d gladly chip in for some type of English class for you. Maybe some Prozac.

  82. Stanny46 (President of the Carl Pavano Fan Club) August 6th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    And to think the Wangers injury was due to a freak base running mishap. Maybe the baseball gods are trying to tell us something this year?

  83. Fredo Corleone August 6th, 2008 at 4:42 pm

    “Find me that quote where CMW is demanding any number of dollars?”

    Wouldn’t call it demanding, but a small stink was made about money when Cano got the long term deal and he didn’t. Wasn’t a rant or anything, but CMW definitely brought it up in conversation.

  84. S.A.-We need you back soon Phil Hughes. This offense is still offensive. August 6th, 2008 at 4:43 pm

    3 injuries in 5 yrs. 2 season ending injuries is that not a problem… missing 1 full season(shoulder injury), 1/2 of another season(lisfranc) and 1 other DL stint in a 5 yr period is that clemens like durability?

    Or is that a problem??

    I will have to read my posts even closer since we have the censors reviewing evry word I type…Imagine I commited the sin of saying all the damn time showing my frustration oh my god discredit every thing I say morons…..

    Seriously, what language is this?

  85. saucY August 6th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    “Joba may have to do what Papelbon did because of his shoulder.”

    acting like an a#*@le fixes shoulder problems! who knew??!!

  86. Karoki August 6th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    The Rays are basically in the playoffs.

    We don’t have the pitching to pass the Sox.

  87. Johnny Damon's beard August 6th, 2008 at 4:44 pm

    Looks like Tampa’s year. Teams of destiny have 6-run ninth innings. They find ways to win games they deserve to lose. Unlike a certain bunch of overpaid has-beens.

  88. tester August 6th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    “acting like an a#*@le fixes shoulder problems! who knew??!!”

    How many titles does that guy have? Just pointing out the obvious.

  89. S.o.S.27 August 6th, 2008 at 4:45 pm

    saucy,
    Im not sure if winter ball would be an option. If he is really hurt. I would think that he will use the offseason to rehab/build his arm strength. It will really suck if he has to go back to the bullpen and start all over. I thought we heard the last of the “Joba should be the 8th inning guy”. I would really like to know what his options are.

  90. Uni's August 6th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    We’re in 3rd with Joba.

    Imagine life without him??

  91. ROG August 6th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Those guys know baseball, all I was saying is that clueless Stu placed them in his stupid column…Therefore if you are tossed to Clueless Stu’s stupid column I’d think that would be company to hang with…..I think they have a clear understanding of the game and the way the business end of it is run……High respect for them

  92. Minty August 6th, 2008 at 4:46 pm

    Going to be ironic when he moves back into the pen because of his shoulder.

    Good thing the kid glove treatment we gave him.

  93. Whitey Fraud August 6th, 2008 at 4:47 pm

    So… CMW’s jellin’.

    Cool.

  94. saucY August 6th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    game thread is up :arrow:

  95. S.o.S.27 August 6th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    “Seriously, what language is this?”

    Thank god stuarts taking all the attention away from my crappy and misspelled sentences. I could see myself getting banned for that.

  96. Alan August 6th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    What point have you ever made here “ROG”? Besides trying to knock Stuart.

  97. Bombshell August 6th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Wow Mad Dog just had a 4 second spell of mental retardation while he watched Pena’s bomb.

  98. TKinDC August 6th, 2008 at 4:49 pm

    ““Find me that quote where CMW is demanding any number of dollars?”

    Wouldn’t call it demanding, but a small stink was made about money when Cano got the long term deal and he didn’t. Wasn’t a rant or anything, but CMW definitely brought it up in conversation.”

    Fredo -

    I’m sorry – did you find a quote from CMW?

  99. G. Love August 6th, 2008 at 4:50 pm

    Drive,

    I agree with you mostly on Cashman. I still think the job he did in the off season was awful this year, but when the team responded and started to hit, he made the deals he had to make to strengthen this current club.

    What’s shocking is the guys in the locker room all wilted again.

    This is a team chemistry/composition problem. I think the problems start with Arod and Jeter. There’s nothing we can do to fix it, so Cashman has to build a club that will not rely on these two players in the future.

    I feel like they exist in their own bubble. They’re like Nathan Lane and Matthew Broderick in The Producers. Their names go above the title, but the rest of the cast is what’s going to make the show click.

    Damon, Abreu, Melky, Giambi, have to leave to start. Cashman needs to come up with a leadoff hitter, a CF, a solid 1b and probably a LF since Nady will slot over to right.

    I don’t know how he’s going to do it, but if he brings back this current crop of guys, this team will fail again.

    The team needs new blood. Younger blood. Hungrier blood. It needs a complete makeover as there is clearly some quit/dog in this club.

    Just watching them get baffled by young pitching that they haven’t faced before tells me they are lazy. They like hitting against the guys the know, but make them do a little work and check out some scouting and they seem to fall apart.

    I think a lot of them are so well paid they feel like they can just walk on the field and winning will happen. I believe Jeter buys into this even though he loves telling reporters the opposite. Jeter also seems to have adopted an “it’s them failing, not me” attitude in the post game. He doesn’t seem like he’s hard on himself at all.

    All I know is we need a new core of players here. Players with no ties to Jeter and Arod. I know as long as Jeter is here the other guys will feel they have to defer to him, but I’d love to see us get a couple of guys who don’t defer to him and have some swagger out there.

    The links to the dynasty team, outside of Mo, is what hurts this team. I think a lot of these guys think because they play with Jeter, then they were part of it.

    The difference is this team doesn’t believe it’s that much better than the other team. They don’t believe “we play today, we win today”.

    I’m tired of seeing our players be so damn respectful of the competition.

    Hopefully, in the future we’ll have some gamers out there that want to beat the other sides brains in.

    Right now, Jeter would much rather hug his opponent and give him a high five as he crosses 2b on a game winning home run.

    I think the worst remnant of the late Torre era is this whole feeling that the Yankees are “the class of baseball and will conduct themselves accordingly”. This holier than thou attitude doesn’t win championships. It’s not what won championships in the first place.

    But when Torre got book offers and the celebrity went to his head, this team started to change.

    It’s just funny that when Torre is losing in his first season in LA, he welcomes the anti-Torre player in Manny into his clubhouse.

  100. S.A.-We need you back soon Phil Hughes. This offense is still offensive. August 6th, 2008 at 5:01 pm

    Thank god stuarts taking all the attention away from my crappy and misspelled sentences. I could see myself getting banned for that.

    Spelling mistakes are nothing.
    Not making any sense at all, that would be a problem.

    :)

  101. JohnnyC August 6th, 2008 at 5:36 pm

    G., you’re right about a lot of the veterans having to go but I don’t necessarily buy the amateur psychoanalysis on Jeter or ARod. They want to win as bad as anyone but it’s not a matter of intensity. The Yankees’ problem is that the parts don’t fit into a complete team. We have a lot of the same type of player…and very few are willing to deviate from “what they do” to help the Yankees win a game. Check out the Angels. Sciosia has a sub-par offensive team getting the most out of the few opportunities they produce. They actually try to play coherent offensive innings where runners get on, are moved around the bases, and are driven in…one way or the other. Most of the Yankees’ lineup thinks “3 run homer” even when the bases are empty. The ego they have is apparent even with Jeter: do you think Sciosia cares if you “put a good swing” on the ball as long as you make some contact and move the play forward? If it happens that you hit it out, even better, but contact is the point. Younger hitters can be molded, veterans are too set in their ways, too wrapped up in their personal stats, too concerned with their impending free agency and bigger bucks to think “team first.” And, by the way, Sciosia doesn’t “convince” his players to play his way. He selects the players who do and gets rid of the players who don’t. Why waste time and breath on someone who’ll never get it? The Yankees ought to try that instead of continuing to import players who are clueless despite possessing great individual skills.

  102. bru August 6th, 2008 at 6:55 pm

    keep arod,cano,mo,joba,wang,nady,jeter,damon,posada,get a new first baseman,a new catcher,a new center fielder.one ace and a solid number three guy is a must,posada to dh no way he should be allowed to catch at his age.if pettitte and abraeu will take less money then bring them back if not bye bye,no way they are worth close to 16 million a year,maybe 9-12 .if abraeu comes back maybe nady at first base or in right if abraeu doesn’t come back.trade matsui.sign sabathia and weeks so the staff will look like sabathia,wang,weeks,pettitte/hughes/joba/kennedy/brackman/???? payroll should be lowered and if i were the gm i would build a nasty pitching staff 1-5 all of the just like sabathia,becket,wang,peavey and maybe just maybe reserve the 5th spot for hughes.the yankees have a former allstar at every position and terrible pitching for the last several years,how the hell did this happen????????????,forget pettitte,giambi,abraeu at 16-22 million and all these overpayed bums.with a 214 million dollar payroll the yankees can get the swb AAA team to play in the majors and go out and get 5 aces at 20 million a pitcher and win it all.get great pitching 1-5!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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