Girardi lets out some anger
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Joe Girardi was looking for a spot to vent his anger today and he found it.
A radio reporter from a local station out here asked him how it felt to watch the eighth inning. As questions go, it wasn’t a good one. But there have been a lot worse.
“What do you think? You think it’s fun watching that crap?†Girardi snapped. “Silly question.â€
Understand that until today, the strongest word Girardi has used around the media is “patootie.” Chris Rock he ain’t.
Have a listen:
Watching Veras, Ramirez and Robertson give up 10 runs on 11 hits in two innings drove Girardi over the edge. That’s certainly understandable.
Meanwhile Edwar apparently took some interview advice from Ian Kennedy. “That’s part of the game,” he said.
It didn’t much change the game given what happened. But I was curious, so I asked Girardi about Jeter’s bunt in the seventh inning. He ordered it because he wanted two runners in scoring position for Abreu.
Abreu was hitting .292 with RISP, about what he hits without RISP. He grounded into a force at the plate. Then A-Rod whiffed and that was that. We’ll never know what would have happened if Jeter took his hacks.
I believe teams shouldn’t give up outs, especially with a lead and when it’s a good hitter at the plate. Outs are too precious to give them away. It’s a reasonable baseball discussion to have. You can make an argument for both schools of thought.
What you can’t argue is that the Yankees have lost nine of their last 14 games are in serious trouble with 45 games to play.
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I’m glad to hear Joe is not happy. Edwar says its part of the game?... Thats waht Edwar will say when hes sent down…its part of the game.
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I’d love to hear what he had to say, today was awful
Next, someone should ask him what he thinks about Dave Kingman’s performance.
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I’m disheartened.
Not this year, see everyone in 09…GO GIANTS!!!!!!!
haha yea go giants
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very pathetic performance today. makes you almost wish farnsworth was around.
If he wants to be angry with anyone, he should direct much of it inwardly…
Edwar Ramirez has “property of LA Angels” stamped on his butt. We all know this. It’s unfathomable why he was sent out to the slaughter like that.
Just the latest in a series of bad managerial moves against the Angels in NY, and now in Anaheim.
Willie Randolph isn’t busy…
@ JT
Yeah. but the difference is that none of those guys won’t even have a whiff of the career Mo has.
WHY ARE PEOPLE SURPRISED BY THESE PITCHERS RESPONSES WHEN THEY PITCH BAD AND ACT LIKE ITS NO BIG DEAL WHEN THEY ARE LEARNING FROM THE KING OF THESE REPONSES- MARIANO RIVERA
HES GREAT BUT HES BEEN DOING IT HIS ENTIRE CAREER!
ALL TRUE 2123 BUT THEY WATCH AND LEARN FROM HIM
Thanks for posting the audio, Pete. Love when you do that.
Actually, I can hear Mo’s voice when I read Edwar’s comment. But someone that young and inexperienced doesn’t have the right to say that.
Well, I hate to say it but Girardi getting mad isn’t going to turn things around or bring back Joba, Wang, Matsui, and Posada from the DL.
I’ve said it many times in recent weeks, I don’t think missing the postseason would be such a bad thing for this club.
They need to take a step back and make some big changes instead of just patching holes with spackle or Bondo as they’ve done the last several offseasons.
Every team needs to tear down the entire wall every once in awhile and that starts with letting Giambi and Abreu walk at the end of the season. That also means Damon and Matsui must go at the end of 2009.
Hopefully, they can demote Melky to the fourth outfielder slot where he needs to be and use some of the young arms in the minors as trade bait to get a couple of bats.
You can’t have 6-7 players in the everyday lineup again next year who are in their mid-30s and up or we’ll see much of the same as we’ve seen this season.
They need to get younger and more versatile.
Maybe Edwar presses against the Angels. They released him twice.
The game was going great until the bull pen came. Giese was wonderful. The Angels are dangerous.
Bottom line is this season is over. Seven back of Tampa, eight in the loss column. Too many teams still in the WC hunt, and we’re 3.5 back, 4 in the loss. Pack it in, they aren’t coming back, and neither is Joba in two weeks.
I have to keep saying this: Pudge cannot be the #1 guy esp at this point of the season
he has taken this pitching staff and made it into garbage
I know the pitchers throw the pitches but the catchers know the situations, the pitchers strengths/weaknesses and when to call what
think its 50+ runs in the 9 or so games hes caught
To say that is a stupid question is the understatement of the century. What brilliant mind asked that?
There is no discussion.
You don’t give a team as good as the Angels free outs with one of your best hitters.
Just stupid.
I know one thing, if I’m manager of the Yankees, a couple of Angel batters are gonna get one in the ear tomorrow. Those guys were laughing at us in their dugout.
I’ll be damned if I’m gonna sit back and let the Angels, or any other team, treat me like a punk. OK, you beat me fair and square, but that doesn’t give you the right to disrespect me like that. Mike Scioiscia is a great manager, but he does love to rub your nose in it.
We aren’t a good team.
The Angels have exposed us as frauds.
@Guiseppe
In no short order this is who has to go…Giambi, Abreu, and Pettitte. Also either Damon or Matsui might have to be traded, based on the Posada situation. That DH slot has to be open for Jorge. The Yanks have to make a solid play for Sabathia. If you can have CC, Wang, Chamberlain, Mussina, and pick your fifth, in the rotation that should be competive next year. I would offer Moose a one year deal, with an option year, for say 23-25 Mil. That way your being generous, but limiting your risk with that second year option at 41.
How is Pudge the problem here?
Pettitte has been terrible his last two outings – one with Pudge and the other with Molina.
Kennedy was caught by Molina last night.
Giese was just fine pitching to Pudge for 6.0 IP and now suddenly it’s Pudge’s fault that the pen couldn’t do it’s job?
Ponson pitched 7 shutout innings last week with Pudge behind the plate.
The pitching as a whole has been terrible ever since the win streak snapped.
I don’t see the blame game on Pudge as justified.
And for the record, Pudge was acquired to be the #1 catcher because Molina couldn’t do it.
He’s not going to be benched in favor of Molina. So get used to him.
“I know one thing, if I’m manager of the Yankees, a couple of Angel batters are gonna get one in the ear tomorrow. Those guys were laughing at us in their dugout.”
These guys will throw behind them and at their heads. Real classy.
JT: Stop posting in ALL CAPS. It’s annoying.
Pepitone: Right, throw at the Angels, that will teach them. Then they’ll steal second and score. How did the Angels treat the Yankees likes punks, because they hit crappy pitches? The Yankees need to worry about themselves, not other teams.
We aren’t getting Sabathia.
He won’t leave the West Coast. Stop assuming he’ll come here.
They should have traded for him in June when they had the chance.
I love Jeter, but if he would’ve taken his hacks, we’d have a man on third, 2 outs.
Sad, puzzling display by the ‘pen today.
Hope it’s better tomorrow.
Great outing by Giese today. He pitched well enough to get the win.
This team as a whole is jinxed.
The Karma is BAD.
There isn’t a fan on this blog that didn’t believe that it would be the Yankees winning at least 2 of the next 4 world series when they got A-Rod by trade.
But instead it was the Sux who were able to lift the curse of the Bambino by winning 2 out 4 world titles!!!
While the Yankees were one and done in 06, and 07’ and looking pretty inept in the process. And let’s not forget the implosion of 04’.
No doubt A-Rod is going to be an all time stat king but he’s hasn’t shown the ability to pick up the team and carry them on his back for any extended period of time.
He’s no Reggie Jackson or even Bernie Williams who could torch the Orioles in a playoff games when it counted.
I hate to say this but let Manny be Manny, at least he’s a feared hitter when the chips are down.
I’d like to know how many MLB pitchers are afraid of pitching to A-Rod.
I don’t see them walking him like Barry Bonds even though BB was in a lineup that wasn’t nearly as good as the Yankees lineup.
Mark my words and I hope that I am wrong about this but his resigning could very well be the worst signing by the Yankees ownership of all time.
I am sure there is an owner down in Texas that must be thrilled to finally be off the hook with A-Rod and maybe in ten years time off the hook as well as the owner who signed the worst A-Rod deal.
Where would they have been without him? Who knows. Maybe they would have built a TEAM instead of worrying about a marketing campaign.
A “close friend” of Manny Ramirez’s told the New York Post that the free agent to be “wants to play for the Yankees so he can get at the Red Sox.”
http://www.nypost.com/seven/08092008/sports/yankees/mannys_revenge_eyes_bx_123658.htm
Throw at teams? For what? For hitting crappy pitchers?
A lot of good throwing at teams has done for us this yr.
Torre was right. You don’t play the game that way.
Going to be funny seeing Torre in the playoffs.
Why would any pitcher be afraid of A-Rod? His at bats change completely when there is pressure and men on. Who here thinks he had a shot to get a hit in the top of the 7th? Lackey treated him like a rookie light hitting 2b.
pete, saying jeter shouldnt have bunted there is a classic second guess. the reality is this isnt the same derek jeter who’d likely lace a single to right there. today’s derek jeter very well couldve hit into a dp or hit a lazy fly. you have to manage to the way guys perform, not their names. the problem with the yanks is that they think they have more talent than they do because their names are big but their performances arent. guys are past their prime or not in it yet. i thought it was the right call on derek bunting. it just looks worse because abreu and arod failed to get em in.
yankee2123,
I would prefer Pettitte over Moose next season. As great as Moose has been, he’s not this good. He’s overachieving in a contract year.
I like Moose and I appreciate what he’s done for the Yanks, but I would not bring him back next season.
Pettitte wants to come back and the Yanks would love to have him back. I know he hasn’t pitched well his last two outings, but the guy was outstanding for the previous 10 starts.
I hope they do sign Sabathia because that will open a huge opportunity to use some of the young arms on the farm to trade for bats.
Matt
“The Angels have exposed us as frauds.” Sorry Matt but we’ve been exposed long before the Angels, by the Orioles, the Royals, the Pirates, the Reds, just about every team playing below .500!!!
Cashman has assembled a terrible staff for 200 million.
He deserves all the blame for Kennedy, Igawa, Pavano, Farnsworth, etc.
The passing on Lilly for Igawa should cost him his job. Let’s be honest here.
of all the big names we have, pretty much one guy, arod, maybe two (abreu) is at the peak of their career.
jeter, damon, giambi, matsui, posada, sexson, pudge, pettite – all bigger names whose skills are nowhere near what their name suggests.
our younger guys have “big” names because they’ve been highly touted by the yankee prospect hype machine, but theyre obviously not in their primes either.
it shouldnt be a huge surprise whats going on here. although i will say, i think we’d be in better shape obviously without all the injuries.
Saying Jeter shouldn’t have bunted is not a second guess.
You don’t give away outs especially with your best hitter.
What don’t you get about that? if he hits into a DP so be it. But taking the bat out of the guy who has a shot to break pete Rose’s record is stupid baseball.
“Right, throw at the Angels, that will teach them. Then they’ll steal second and score. How did the Angels treat the Yankees likes punks, because they hit crappy pitches? The Yankees need to worry about themselves, not other teams.”
Try reading my post, Peter. I’m talking about their attitude in the dugout, not that they roughed up our pitchers. I get the sense that the Angels look at us as their punks. You don’t have to agree with me, but as a coach myself, that’s what I am sensing.
Beat me fair and square, OK, no problem. But, do not treat me disrespectfully.
Also, I am worrying about the Yankees. This ballclub is acting like a defeated team. As coach or manager, I wouldn’t stand for it. Either fight, or quit.
I’ll say this about Manny.
There is no chance he bats 200 with RISP batting cleanup.
Its a crappy mix of overpaid people in their respective twilights of their careers, coupled with crippling injuries, stirred with a good dose of people who just are not major league ballplayers…..cough melky cough ….and the arod
I submit this franchise got away from what made it great in the late 90’s, very few “stars”, lots of people pulling in the same direction, if you read olneys last night of the yankee dynasty he spells it out clearly
The Giambino in 2002, the panic deal for Raul Mondesi that you lost Ted Lilly in, replacing good serviceable ballplayers with “stars” and thats what you have right now, you have many talented individuals and no thread of a team
Im past the point with the 2008 Yankees….when Ian Kennedy is giving you attitude and its allowed to continue, its time to bail and point towards Brett V Chad on 9-7
@ Peter
The Angels have tormented us for the past decade. I’m usd to it. That’s why that game last week, when they imploded with four errors, was a beautiful thing to watch. But honestly, this team really spits the bit. In fairness, they have caught bad breaks with injuries, but even the veterans who played well for Torre don’t look like they have that fire in their belly. This team is going through the motions on most days. And when the pen gives it up, they really go for the gusto. Edwar is good when he’s on, but when he’s off, it’s batting practice. Fans know what a real pen looks like from 96-2001 we had one. Since then it’s been a revolving door of retreads and hasbeens. This team looks like those ones from the early nineties, except they’re on the downturn now. They need fresh legs on the field, and power arms in the pen and rotation. Forget the Kennedy’s, there’s a hundred guys like him out there you can always pick up as a fourth or fifth starter. You need guys who pitch lights out, like Joba did last year in the pen. That’s how the Yanks will get back to the top.
How did Girardi vent? Sounds like the same BS we heard all year… He needs to light a fire under these guys…
John:
If you’ve read my blog, I’ve always been anti-bunt. And I guessed it was the wrong move before Abreu grounded out.
pepitone: Your guess on the Angels is wrong. Scioscia is a classy guy and his team plays the game the right way. They hustle, they sit situationally and they pitch. Just because they beat the Yankees doesn’t make them bad guys.
I’ve been around thema lot from covering the playoffs. They’re good dudes.
Pete,
You get on Jeter often (as most of us do) for grounding into a ton of double plays. With Abreu and ARod behind him, I don’t see how the Sac bunt wasn’t the safe and right play to make. I don’t believe in Sac bunts generally, as I also feel that giving up one of your 27 outs is counter-productive. But in this situation, with Mr. DP up, I think it’s the right call.
He won’t leave the West Coast. Stop assuming he’ll come here.
They should have traded for him in June when they had the chance.
That’s not necessarily true. He has to be willing to go to a team willing to spend the kind of money he wants – which will be $120M+.
I’m not completely convinced that Sabathia is going to sign with the Dodgers this offseason. He may want to go there, but that doesn’t mean they will sign him.
Here’s something that caught my eye the other day about the Dodgers that gives me a second thought about the Dodgers willingness to offer the kind of cheddar Sabathia is looking for – courtesy of Peter Gammons.
What’s going on with the Dodgers’ money?
Greg Maddux would have liked to finish the season with the Dodgers, and the Dodgers wanted the Hall of Famer. But when Maddux cleared waivers this week and the Padres went to trade him, Los Angeles demanded that the Padres pay $2.5 million of the $3 million remaining on Maddux’s contract this year, and would not offer a useable prospect. Now, the Dodgers got the Red Sox to pay all of Manny Ramirez’s contract, and the Indians to pay all of Casey Blake’s deal. When the Dodgers tried to get in on CC Sabathia, they wanted the Indians, who have the second-lowest payroll in the AL, to eat the majority of Sabathia’s remaining contract. And when the Pirates talked to them about Jack Wilson, the Dodgers wanted the Pirates to eat most of Wilson’s contract for 2008 and 2009.
Whether you like Gammons or not, he does make a good point about the Dodgers’ stinginess these days.
You think that a team like the Dodgers who haven’t done squat in the postseason in 20 years would be willing to take on some money in order to get back to October – especially a Hall of Famer who could certainly help that team in Maddux.
And combine that with the easily predictable bust that that was Andruw Jones over the offseason – I’m not so convinced that these sudden penny-pinchers are going to shell out $120M+ for another long term deal to a 300 lbs pitcher.
Maybe I’m wrong, but I don’t see this Dodgers-Sabathia marriage and there aren’t any other West Coast teams who are going to be willing to shell out the kind of dough that he wants.
SD – Not a chance.
LAA – They already have good pitching and will set their sites on Teixeira.
SF – Uh, no. They already have a huge $100M+ bust in their rotation.
OAK – Not on your life.
There are only so many West Coast teams out there and I don’t see a fit at all besides the Dodgers.
Who knows if they are going to be willing to spend that kind of money given their recent history.
@Guiseppe Franco
I’m a Pettitte fan, but he hasn’t pitched well in the second half, and he brings baggage to the team with the steroids stuff. I want the Yankees to steer clear of that, plus Andy isn’t a 16M per season pitcher, especially not now.
Anyone with a brain is anti bunt. Don’t give away outs!!!
“How did Girardi vent? Sounds like the same BS we heard all year… He needs to light a fire under these guys…”
That’s what I’m talking about, GCNSean. When I say “throw one at their ear” I don’t mean aim for their head. I mean whiz one up high, or hit them in the butt with a pitch. Something to let the Angels, and the other Yankees, know that we will not lie down and let you just beat on us. I would also move ARod down in the lineup, or bench him, until he shows me he really wants to play. I was watching him out there blowing bubbles and chomping on sunflower seeds in the field. Hey, ARod, how about getting your head in the game for once.
Another reason you let one of your best hitters push the guys over is because you have 2 guys who are even better hitters behind them. Especially Bobby who’s great with RISP.
That’s not what lost this game. Last month a 3-1 lead in the 7th is good enough to win.
“You get on Jeter often (as most of us do) for grounding into a ton of double plays. With Abreu and ARod behind him, I don’t see how the Sac bunt wasn’t the safe and right play to make”
Up 3-1, the double play doesn’t kill you. With the team struggling with RISP in general, there is some merit in getting 3 AB’s with RISP, rather than giving away an out and having only two….especially while ahead.
Guiseppe, you are right about Pudge. This awful pitching isn’t his fault.
@Pepitone
Arod is too busy counting his money in his head, or at least half his money. The Steinbrenners made the wrong move with Arod, they were thinking of breaking records, instead of winning championships.
glad i didn’t see this one….it was already painful enough hitting “reload” on mlb.com on my phone…
i’ll say this….i am not one to say “we’re screwed” often. if it turns out that, on top of all our current adversity, our young relievers’ arms are tiring out at the end of the year, then maybe the Ponson’s a bit closer to singing.
today just plain sucked.
I’m also glad to hear Cleveland and Milwaukee are now considered “the West coast,” but that’s another story for another time.
“Especially Bobby who’s great with RISP.”
He’s not great with RISP/ He’s at .290 or so. Might be great by the standards of this team, but it’s not as good as Jeter is with RISP.
Pepitone,
Did you mention him giving up the stolen base by abandoning 3rd base? Thank goodness it didn’t cost us a run. Well, not like it mattered in the end.
I feel bad for Dan Giese. I hope the organization took notice of his outstanding effort.
yankee2123,
But Pettitte is coming back whether we fans like it or not. He’s said he wants to come back and the Yanks will most definitely be happy to have him back.
He’s been fine the second half. He just hasn’t pitched well his last two starts because he’s going through a dead arm period. He would have probably missed a start if not for the Joba injury.
Besides, there is no baggage with the steroids stuff anymore. It really can’t be baggage if nobody talks about it and isn’t a distraction to the team.
He addressed all that stuff in Spring Training and we haven’t heard anything about it since.
But again, Moose has been great – but he’s not this good. He will regress next season. There’s no question about it.
For those of you who don’t think Girardi is to blame for today- consider this:
Veras, was in fact, the right move. But Edwar Ramirez was a TREMENDOUS mistake. I said right before that inning that if Girardi brings him in, Guerrerro will go deep and we will lose. It was so obvious. He throws a 90 mph nothing fastball and a good changeup. However, Vlad is a bad ball hitter. You are not going to get him out with a slow fastball and changeup, he can easily reach either of those pitches if the break is just down. Sure enough, first pitch, a home run.
Edwar Ramirez can’t get righties out well. We all know that already. He brought in Edwar to face a stretch of 5 or 6 righties in a row! And not only that, but their BIGGEST HITTERS.
Ramirez has been a nice story, but you’d think he’d know his guys? A finesse guy who is much more susceptible to righties against their best righty power hitters, and a guy who also surrenders home runs, in a tie game on the road in the 8th? Come on.
Ramirez is a 6th or 7th inning guy at best, NOT one that you can use in that spot. And not only that, but he left him in until the game got completely out of hand. 4-3 is not game over, but 7-3 or 8-3 certainly is, and personally, Edwar should have been pulled 4 or 5 batters earlier than he was. Who knows if his confidence is going to go way down after that shellacking?
Girardi can’t control how his guys pitch. Veras just imploded and that has nothing to do with him. However, he can’t put players in spots in which we know they’ll fail. Ramirez was put in a spot in which he would not succeed and he didn’t. As a manager, that is the most you can do- give your guys a chance to succeed, and he didn’t do that.
Girardi is throwing games away to “experiment.” NEWS FLASH JOE: IT’S AUGUST, OUR PLAYOFF HOPES ARE HANGING BY A THREAD, AND THIS IS THE BEST TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. YOU CAN’T “EXPERIMENT” !
“I’m also glad to hear Cleveland and Milwaukee are now considered “the West coast,†but that’s another story for another time”
Sabathia had no choice about being in Cleveland and Milwaukee. He’ll have a say in where he hurls next year.
“The Steinbrenners made the wrong move with Arod, they were thinking of breaking records, instead of winning championships.”
You got that right, yankee2123!
ARod was all about selling tickets, winning was secondary in that signing.
ARod doesn’t belong in New York, he cannot handle the distractions or the pressure. He should ask to be traded to a smaller market where he could get back to being the kind of ballplayer he was in Seattle and Texas.
Jorge, I visited Cleveland this past spring and enjoyed the view of the Pacific Ocean from my downtown hotel.
there used to be a good amount of sane discussion that went on here. the pseudo-intellectuals and alleged brilliant minds of baseball that post comments should start taking a big step back from the keyboard. it’s really disheartening to see some of the things that people are saying about this team.
are they of playoff quality right now? probably not. just have to hope for the best. i do live and die with this team, but i won’t spend my nights trying to convince other people how right i am. maybe some of you need to do the same and try to enjoy the game.
i don’t have a problem with figgins stealing second with a five run lead.
teams come back from 5 run deficits.
i’d like to see the yankees have that kind of killer instinct when they have a team down.
Matt—Then who would you have brought in?
Edwar, good stuff or not, has been our best relief pitcher. Bruney and Robertson are not reliable in that spot.
Marte was the only guy. And even he has been shakey in his time with the Yankees. He was also facing 2 righties to start the inning.
Pepitone,
Please, please please stop referring to the Yankees as us. They are the Yankees, you are someone else. No one disrespected by you laughing in the dugout enjoying a win. No one disrespected the Yankees by laughing and enjoying a win.
If you coach a team that doesn’t laugh and smile in the dugout when they are winning, it is because you have a team that doesn’t win. Please remove the me and we and us. This is our team but we are not part of it.
I agree with Randy. Run when you’re up by five runs. In this era, five runs isn’t what it used to be.
“i don’t have a problem with figgins stealing second with a five run lead.
teams come back from 5 run deficits.”
Yankees came from 5 down versus the Halos last weekend. You’re 100% right.
And if Jeter hit into a DP with RISP, something he has done with more frequency than ever this season, folks would have said, “he should have bunted”.
This is a team that has trouble scoring runs. Its been that way all year. They can’t play for big innings because they aren’t a big inning team like they were last year.
Unless, of course, you count getting a 10 unearned run gift from the Angels last Sunday as some offensive success story.
Second and third, one out, with your #3 and #4 hitters at the plate is a good situation to be in to score runs.
At least for most teams.
Its all moot when the bullpen blows up like today.
Either way, when you have a guy at the plate who has a penchant for hitting into DP’s, you bunt in that situation.
This is not the 2007 Yankee offense. This is an offense that needs all the help it can muster to try and score runs.
If it was last year’s Yankee offense, you hit away because they scored runs in bunches. This year, its not that kind of O, regardless of the names in the lineup.
At this point in most of their careers, their past success exceeds their present results.
It is no secret that if we want CC, our offer needs to be significantly higher than that of a West Coast team because CC will take a discount (not a big one though) to go to the Dodgers (and they are the only WC team who will bid on him).
But we have to be prepared to do that. Who is the last guy that Colletti gave a $150 million dollar contract to?
As I said earlier, I still think Boston may be our biggest competitor for CC. Cashman cannot let the rug be pulled from under him again.
A very frustrating game. Still hard to believe the Yankees gave up 8 runs in the 8th inning.
Where to begin. Giambi and Pettite can’t go quick enough. Abreu had done fine, but he can also go now that we have the younger Nady. As fro Veras and Ramirez, I’m not sold either way on them. Though both have hit very well when healthy, either Matsui or Damon need to be traded. Posada’s injury is the reason for this. Texiera would be great, but not for 10 years. Do you really wanted another first baseman under contact in his late thirties? I say give Kennedy 1 more start, and make your decision about his future then. Sabathia would be ideal, but I don’t think he wants any part of this mess. Moose has earned a $15 mil for ‘09, sign him. I hate to say it, but I could take or leave Melky. I like Cashman, but too many of his decisions have backfired, later. As for the skipper, he just might be on the hotseat this time next year.
Hey, uh, “Coach,”
My teams win, my teams smile, my teams have a blast playing the game of basketball and football. But, what my teams do not do is laugh and make fun of our opponent. I don’t allow trash talking or other nonsense that is disrespectful to the other team, and to the game.
And, since I am a Yankee fan (one for over 44 years), I can call them “us” all I please. You don’t like it, then just ignore my posts. No one made you read it.
LOL. The White Sox got 1st & 2nd no outs and the .300 hitter (ok he’s the #9 hitter, but still) is trying to bunt them over. Anyone with a brain knows not to give away outs? Everyone’s a manager.
So they take off the bunt, force out at 2nd, runner to 3rd. And then the 4th batter of the inning does his job and gets the run in.
The point is they tried the sac bunt. And more importantly the the guys behind them did the job.
SJ – agreed. I think you bunt to stay out of the DP as much as give Abreu and A-(not)Rod two cracks to drive them in. Killer is the #s 3 and 4 don’t get the job done. I’m not much of a Girardi fan, but I can’t disagree with Jeter bunting in that spot.
As I said earlier, I still think Boston may be our biggest competitor for CC. Cashman cannot let the rug be pulled from under him again.
I don’t see Sabathia as a fit for Theo. He doesn’t like shelling out those long term deals for that kind of bread.
Besides, next season they’ll have to spend $100M+ on their own FA – Josh Beckett – and I don’t see Theo doling out that much blow for two slots in the rotation.
Theo really doesn’t like those long term deals (see: Ramirez, Manny) and they still have faith in their own young arms like Buchholz and Lester.
I just feel horrible for Giese. Horrible.
Can this team get it going??????
gggrrrrrrrr
On the “who should we keep, Pettitte or Mussina for next year” question,
I say keep Andy. Mike has done a terrific job for us this year, but I don’t trust him to keep it up next year.
I would like us to keep them both (sign Mussina for a one year w/an option), because I am not convinced that our youngsters are ready.
Here is what I would like to see for our starters next year: Wang, Chamberlain, Mussina, Pettite, and either Hughes or Ponson. Kennedy is not ready to pitch to Major League bats, and I honestly don’t know when he will be ready.
On the flip side for Dan Giese, he’s making $412,000 this year, is pitching for the most storied franchise in sports, and seemingly has secured himself a future job pitching int he big leagues. It would have been nice if he won today, but I hope he enjoyed his family barbecue nonetheless.
I don’t think no one has good mood to help me out. I have a question related to English since English is not my first language.
[quote]The strongest word Girardi has used around the media is “patootie.†Chris Rock he ain’t.[/quote]
What does “patootie” mean?
What does “Chris Rock he ain’t” mean?
Thanks. I am very appreciated at if someone is able to help me out.
You had to bring in Bruney to face Guerrerro. You cannot put in Ramirez, who has nothing to get Vlad out with, in to face Vlad.
He is a bad ball hitter. You can’t “fool” him without a pitch that breaks away from him or something that you can run in on his hands. Ramirez has neither. Vlad cannot catch up to a hard fastball in on his hands. Pitchers have already proven that. However, he can hit fastballs over the plate/away with authority, which is all Edwar can throw him that’s not a changeup in the dirt if he wants to get him out.
Bruney, though shaky, was the best option facing the righty power hitters. You had to put someone in who could get in on these guys with a hard fastball and keep them from driving the ball so what happened wouldn’t happen. In a tie game on the road, you cannot put in guys that surrender home runs, you need to get a guy in there who can stop hitters from driving the ball.
This isn’t hind sight, I said at the time that Vlad would take Edwar deep and that it was a mistake during the commercial break. Everyone seemed to know it but Girardi, again.
Though all of you hate Farnsworth, I said it then and I’ll say it again. It was a mistake. It was then, it is now. Farnsworth was another quality hard throwing arm to throw in a spot like that who could blow away hitters. We don’t have one of those if Veras is getting hit. Pudge is much worse at calling a game than Molina, was he really THAT necessary?
Look, it’s facts. The pitching has tanked since they handed him the reigns. Molina catching results in much better pitching, every time, unless it’s someone like Kennedy who’s just awful regardless. He’s better at throwing, calling, and catching. Defense from him is way more important than one bat. This would not have been a problem had Girardi had the guts to bench Melky and stop running 2 auto outs out there every night instead of destroying our lineup by letting Melky play despite his lack of production.
Remain calm! All is well!
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I’d keep Mussina over Pettitte next year. For the right money, I’d sign them both, though, for one year with a team option for a second.
Jessica, patootie can be described is what Edwar Ramirez’s performance was today, and Chris Rock is a comedian who uses sometimes offensive language.
the game has changed since peds are harder to get away with. ironically the philosophy of not giving up outs to score runs worked better with the lower iq game of juiced up sluggers. with speed coming back into the game, situational hitting, bunting , stealing, etc are all back in play.
the angels,twins, and devil rays are all teams that give away outs as a matter of philosophy and seem to do quite well.
Its hard to bang on Girardi. That’s the natural leap too many people make when a team loses.
He is managing a team in transition.
He’s breaking in an almost rookie bullpen. They have stunk this week but, have carried the team for most of the year.
His season starting #4 and #5 pitchers have exactly ZERO wins for him this year.
How many teams have their start of the season #4 and #5 starters chalk up zero wins this year.
The answer is: NOBODY.
His #1 starter (Wang) has been out for the season since June.
His best young pitcher (Chamberlain) is now out. Probably for the rest of the year.
His best catcher, and the best offensive catcher in the game (Posada) is out for the season and did not play a single game healthy in the few he played this year.
His best clutch hitter (Matsui) has been out for months. Who knows if he can make it back.
Right now, Sidney Ponson, that’s right SIDNEY PONSON, is the second most effective starting pitcher.
His 968 run offense of last year, will be down almost 250 runs when all is said and done and is down over 30 points hitting w/RISP.
The walks are down and the GIDP are WAY up.
I mean really, what can he do? He can’t pull rabbits out of a hat.
They may wear Yankee uniforms but, this ain’t the Yankees, if you know what I mean.
Its a mix of young, old, underachievers, overachievers, and career journeymen. A hodge podge of a roster that has already been turned over by about 50% from Opening Day.
Frankly, its a miracle they are even within sniffing distance of the WC, given what’s happened this year.
I don’t get it.. What anger? It sounds like the same old crap he always says.
Remain calm! All is well!
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“He is managing a team in transition.”
Transition to what?
“What does “patootie†mean?
What does “Chris Rock he ain’t†mean?”
Chris Rock is a comedian… he’s not afraid to use bad language, so Pete is saying Joe Girardi does not use bad language.
Patootie – I’ve never used it or heard it used… but I guess the it means saying something is garbage – as in we played like garbage
Jessica,
Chris Rock is a comedian who did an HBO special where he said f*** every other word.
patootie is a colloquial word for butt.
Hi Jessica,
“What does “patootie†mean?” It means to spit, or to hock a loogie. At least that’s what it meant when I was a kid.
What does “Chris Rock he ain’t†mean? Chris Rock is a famous black comedian who is known for swearing alot. In other words, Girardi isn’t as funny, nor profane, as Chris Rock.
Good to have you as a Yankee fan!
Randy,
Exactly. The game has changed and the teams you mention give up outs all the time and it doesn’t seem to hurt their offenses.
Matt,
Did you see Bruney pitch last night? He was awful.
Its so easy to second guess EVERY move when it doesn’t work.
Brian Bruney can’t throw the ball over the plate and isn’t pitching well. He’s also getting lit up with guys on base.
Veras and Ramirez have pitched well for him this year. Better than Bruney since his return. They stunk today. It happens.
He didn’t want to go to Ramirez at all. However, when Veras blows up, he has no choice in that situation.
Bruney shouldn’t even be on the roster right now. Its nice that he tried to come back but, he can’t get anybody out.
Mark Melancon should be in that spot and I hope like hell he gets called up soon.
They need another guy in the ‘pen who can get outs. That ain’t Bruney.
Well if they send Bruney down, do it on the road. Let him bust up someone else’s clubhouse.
“Frankly, its a miracle they are even within sniffing distance of the WC, given what’s happened this year.”
Thanks SJ for words of sanity in a whirlpool of hysteria. For the job he has done with what he had to work with this year, he should get consideration for manager of the year.
“What does “patootie†mean?â€
“The word you need is onomatopoeia and the derived adjective onomatopoeic: ‘the formation of names or words from sounds that resemble those associated with the object or action to be named, or those associated with the object or action to be named, or that seem suggestive of its qualities: atishoo, babble, cuckoo, croak, ping-pong, sizzle’.”
True Girardi has had many issues to contend with, but that has made managerial know-how more, not less, important. Questionable decisions become so much more conspicuous in these circumstances. I was for the selection of Girardi as Torre’s replacement and I am still optimistic about his long-term success as a manager. But I can’t help thinking the outcome of this season would have been more palatable if we hadn’t had so many beginning cooks in the kitchen. And I can’t blame fans who sometimes get cranky about it…
“hock a loogie”??
“Good to have you as a Yankee fan!”???
That’s why every my classmates was laughing so hard when I was at school in America and I was the only one not laughing at all.
Thanks, Everyone. I am very appreciated at this big help.
Pete, the Yanks are only 3 1/2 games out of the wild card. That’s only one good week, if that long. And the Red Sox (bullpen) and Twins (only so-so pitching and lack of offensive pop) have glaring vulnerabilities that will keep them from running away from the Yanks.
Are the Yanks playing well? Of course not. But are they in “serious trouble?” No way.
Boone Logan dong his best Edwar routine against the sox; 4 runs allowed, still no outs.
SJ,
I said it twice and I’ll say it a third time.
IT WAS NOT HIND SIGHT.
I said it BEFORE he even came in. It was the WRONG MOVE. Everyone but him seemed to know it. I was sitting there in the middle of the 8th saying: “If he brings in Ramirez, we lose. Vlad will homer off him, he doesn’t have anything to get him out with.”
Sure enough, Edwar strolling out from the bullpen when it returns, and first pitch- home run.
It’s not hind sight, it’s using your brain. Ramirez is a finesse righty who gives up home runs and is worse against righties in his career. You can’t bring him in in that spot. You put your players in spots to succeed. I don’t care if Bruney was shaky last night. His second inning was solid and he has the STUFF to get these guys out. Ramirez does NOT. And guess what, he brought in Bruney ANYWAY to clean up the mess. So if you used him then, why not start with him? It wasn’t like he wasn’t available.
Ramirez is what he is- a righty who gets out lefties well, and who is susceptible to melt downs because he gives up long balls and nibbles some times. That’s what he is, nothing more. Girardi can’t push him into a set up role in a crucial game and expect him to dominate a team like the Angels with the circumstances completely against him.
Pepitone,
I get that people are frustrated. Its tough to watch what happened today and not be frustrated.
But, take a step back and look at what this team has gone through this year. Its a mess.
The injuries, the ineffectiveness, the roster turnover. I mean, at some point, what can you do?
The starting rotation now consists of Moose, a sore armed Andy Pettitte, either Rasner or Kennedy (neither are sterling choices), Dan Giese and Sidney Ponson.
Really, is that a playoff rotation? How ‘bout a World Series rotation?
Sometimes, you need to take off the Pinstripes Glasses and look at this team and realize, its pretty damn tough to keep patching things. At some point, you have to have the horses and, at least right now, they don’t have enough horses to win the race.
Look at the Angels and look at the Yankees. Tell me which team is better?
I’m sorry to report that the Yankees don’t have 30-40 ready to go all stars ready to replace those who have had bad years or are hurt. Its not the way it works in the game.
Its just been one of those years where everything that has gone wrong has gone wrong.
Yet, ONE good week and they could be in the lead in the WC race. That’s the only benefit you can take from all the struggles.
One good week and they are “back” per se.
Its not looking good right now. Then again, I didn’t think Dan Giese would hold the Angels to one run in 6 innings.
That’s why they play the games.
Zooboy, I wonder if Boone Logan will quote Edwar in his postgame talk: “It’s all part of the game.”
Matt,
And he can with Brian Bruney? Did you see Bruney pitch last night? He was awful. He cost them the game.
Its great that you can predict what will happen before it will happen.
The fact is, he had nobody else to bring in. He could have brought in Marte. That’s all he had left.
How many times has he used Bruney back to back since he came back off his injury? I think its zero.
He also has in his mind that Bruney was awful last night.
Bruney wasn’t the answer. The answer was Veras and Ramirez doing their jobs and they didn’t do it.
The game wasn’t lost on strategy. It was lost because they didn’t hit with RISP (as usual) and the bullpen pitched like crap.
Never has a more succinct summation been offered:
“The game wasn’t lost on strategy. It was lost because they didn’t hit with RISP (as usual) and the bullpen pitched like crap.”
from Chad Jennings blog
I read something from Joe Posnanski once saying if he could give athletes one bit of interview advice it would be to always take the blame, and I couldn’t agree more. When athletes take the blame, they always come across looking and sounding like a better player, better teammate and better person. Last night, Kennedy came across as out of touch, which isn’t the Kennedy I know, but that’s certainly the way he’ll be percieved after last night’s interview.
It doesn’t take a rocket scientist to know that Ramirez was the wrong pitcher to face Guerrerro. Cut the nonsense. Stop with the excuses. Bruney gets hit by LEFTIES. He throws 96 mph and dominates right handed hitters.
Everyone knew it was the wrong move. You don’t throw a finesse guy out there to face a free swinging power hitter who he has nothing to get out. He might have the stuff to get out Mathis, but not Vlad. It was obvious to begin with, and more obvious after they predictably smacked him around.
Girardi let it get away. The game was not over when he brought Edwar in, but it certainly was afterwards. Just because he has injuries doesn’t mean he’s excused. You need a manager when the team is suffering injuries who is going to go out there and put his best team on the field and his best chance to win out on the mound.
And guess what? He didn’t. He continues to run out Melky except for those 4 games in Texas when he has been terrible. His “defense” is a myth as Pete showed. He’s bottom of the pack defensively in terms of statistics. He makes stupid plays and costs them tremendously. On top of that, he is misusing the bullpen.
What does it matter if the guys are rested well if they aren’t being used in the right spots? This is August, you don’t “lose a battle to win a war” anymore! Losing a battle at this point of the year = you are out of the post season race because you got buried throwing away games.
It’s simple as that. This is do or die time now in the season. If you aren’t trying to win games, then stop acting like this team is a contender and start getting guys experience in the big leagues. This team doesn’t know what it is- is it in transition or a contender? It should be both, but its manager hasn’t made up his mind it seems.
“The game wasn’t lost on strategy. It was lost because they didn’t hit with RISP (as usual) and the bullpen pitched like crap.”
Yup, and that pretty much sums up the season.
What about Mark Melancon ? He is getting pretty close.
“I get the sense that the Angels look at us as their punks. You don’t have to agree with me, but as a coach myself, that’s what I am sensing.”
I love how you add the ‘I’m a coach’ to your point. Wether you’re a little league/high school coach it doesn’t add anything to your comments. In fact, it shows a lack of confidence in them as they stand.
I know it’s bad karma to watch the Red Sox but I can’t help myself. I’m noticing their young guys are starting to carry the team. It’s definitely a different vibe post-Manny.
SJ,
Agreed about Bruney. Good for him for trying to come back and all but he’s not the same Bruney we saw back in April.
He’s the same Bruney we saw last season. Perhaps even worse than that.
And his performance was so predictable a couple of weeks ago. He hadn’t pitched well at all in the minors on his rehab assignment.
He didn’t have his control, his command, or his location. He only had his velocity and didn’t get that until his last outing or two in Scranton.
He definitely needs that time down in Scranton to get his mojo back because he’s only going to get hammered against major league hitters.
I give the guy credit for trying to come back, but it just ain’t working for him.
What can make anybody believe that A-Rod at the age of 33 will suddenly for the first time in his career become a clutch hitter and give himself up for at bats to advance a runner or do less swinging with the home run in mind ?
If the truth be known, the Steinbrenners basically got him to put a$$es in seats and crossed their fingers that rings would follow.
I read something from Joe Posnanski once saying if he could give athletes one bit of interview advice it would be to always take the blame, and I couldn’t agree more. When athletes take the blame, they always come across looking and sounding like a better player, better teammate and better person. Last night, Kennedy came across as out of touch, which isn’t the Kennedy I know, but that’s certainly the way he’ll be percieved after last night’s interview.
As simple as it sounds, that really is a brilliant advice for any athlete.
It’s PR 101 for most people, but Kennedy must have skipped that class at USC.
today was an awful display of baseball and if Dan Geise is going to pitch a game like that…WE HAVE TO WIN, but of course the bullpen blows it..no consistency with this team
does anyone else believe that the yankee ERA seems to just go up and up when Irod is catching
Posada being hurt has killed us. We wouldn’t have had to trade Farnsworth who laugh if you want was pitching great. The pen was rolling with him.
Now I have never liked Manny or wanted to see Manny as a Yankee but after the game today my wife said something interesting.. Imagine Manny Hitting behind Arod..
wow, laurdrew that was WELL SAID. i would just like to say that i recently became a yankee fan because my boyfriend told me all about the yankees.. and i was really into the games last year and this year lets just say i am NOT HAPPY.
Kennedy pitched great. 9 hits and 7 runs is real good.
Sad to see the bullpen implode.But it shows that these guys can’t hack it.How Edwar and Bruney are let to implode so many times and when Chris Britton has he’s first bad outing is sent to the minors.
Hopefully next year Veras,Edwar,Pettitte,Giambi,Pavano,Ponson and Bruney are finally shown the door.
does anyone else believe that the yankee ERA going through the roof since IROD was traded for is just coincidence.
Sorry, Willis, Peter Gammons says that the “protection” offered by a big hitter in the lineup is “a myth.”
So tomorrow it’s Andy and his “tired arm”
Oh dear
Olympic swimming should be on soon. Go Phelps!
SA a hint, don’t go on any news sites, I did and ruined it for myself.
Willis, I don’t know about Manny. There’s a lot of baggage there. I’m still working on trusting Damon.
Travis
Gammons thinks Joe Morgan is a great announcer…
But a really good hitter behind Arod might finally help him to relax..just sayin’
the Yanks have a run in them still. something like a 13-3 run while the Bosox go 8-8. then it’s a race to the finish – knock ‘em off in Fenway the last weekend of the season, with Joba/Moose/Pettitte ging.
willis
Wow, 28m and all the strippers and old stars he can do and he still can’t relax??
Amazing.
“Besides, next season they’ll have to spend $100M+ on their own FA – Josh Beckett – and I don’t see Theo doling out that much blow for two slots in the rotation.”
Beckett is signed thru 2010.
I agree, George. Yanks will make a run at the wildcard, and Boston is vulnerable.
Having that protection behind A-Rod does make a huge difference.
That’s where the loss of Matsui really hurts. And Posada too for that matter.
A-Rod had the year of his life a season ago and had two really strong bats protecting him.
This season, he’s had Jason Giambi hitting behind him – a guy who has hit for one month. He scares nobody.
I’ve been an advocate for Nady to bat behind A-Rod but Girardi falls in love too much with his alternating righty and lefty bats.
Sure, it’s nice to have a balanced lineup. But it’s a little counterproductive when you have such a black hole protecting your best hitter.
Almost on cue, Thome homers against Timlin!
This team has lost too many key players to injury to be competitive – at some point you just have to realize the run is over and you need to rethink the entire makeup of the team.
ARod, Jeter, Mo, Nady and Jorge will be back. So will (hopefully) a healthy Wang, Joba and Hughes. Everybody else is fair game – they need to be younger and faster. I truly hope they convince Jeter to move to CF or LF; Jorge may need to be the first baseman.
god no Manny. come on, the guy’s scum. sitting out that game against the Yankees – that turned my stomache. i don’t care how good a hitter Manny is, i hope he never is in pinstripes. Boston was so desperate for a championship they were willing to put a paper bag over his head and pretend they loved him. The New York Yankees don’t have to prostitute themselves like that.
Beckett is signed thru 2010.
Point still stands. Theo is gonna have to shell out 6 years if he wants Sabathia and I don’t think he’ll be willing to do it.
They shoot horses don’t they?
Right or not it’s pretty obivious he tends to press in big spots. He is going to be a Yankee for what, ten more years?
I think if it takes a another big hitter to bring out the best in him so be it.
Agreed. I don’t trust Manny as far as I can throw him.
Willis, I agree with you, not Gammons.
I am not sure that Manny is the answer, but I’d like to explore other options.
“Point still stands. Theo is gonna have to shell out 6 years if he wants Sabathia and I don’t think he’ll be willing to do it.”
Maybe. Don’t think Sabathia wants any part of either NYC or Boston, but that may be where the money is.
When you go against the best team in baseball in thier home in order to win series you have to step on them while they are down..two situations are key in this series, last night basesloaded in the 2nd inning Robinson Cano could not respond. Today Alex Rodriguez man on 2nd & 3rd he couldn’t respond..When the other teams pitcher gets out of situations like that it sends energy to thier players, momentum shifts in many ways, those were momentum shifting situations which we couldn’t succeed in.
It’s simple the best team in baseball is not going to stay down unless you step on them and this Yankees team just can’t hit w/ RISP. IDK what Kevin Long is preeching but he is #1 to go in my book. When it’s the whole team not coming through consistantly you need to send a message and demoting a player does nothing but axing a hitting coach who IMO has been brought down to earth in his method..just the fact that this is one of the worst situational hitting teams in baseball should be fact enough to axe Long. I don’t want to hear well what he’s doing he can’t hit for them, then why is he here if what he effects is nothing.
The bigger reason Edwar just can’t pitch vs the Angels, he balls up vs this team, this team was the first team that cut him in his career, it’s amazing he gets everybody out, I mean everybody but when he faces the Angels he implodes.
When the bullpen gives up 3 solo HR and 10 ER…it’s just too late to do anything about it, it’s not on Pudge, it’s not on Molina, you have players that need to get back into a rythmn, I still believe in this bullpen the offense I won’t believe in and can’t until Kevin Long is fired.
willis
All the more reason to have given BB a shot earlier in the season when it still mattered.
Go Phelps!!
I’ve been away for a week – and it seems like some things haven’t changed.
At the risk of sounding like a “me, too” type – and I’ve posted along these lines before – but SJ’s comment, above, is spot on. Given all the problems this year, it’s amazing that at this point in the season, we’re still a playoff contender. That may not last long, if they don’t get it together soon, but with all the trials of this year, it really is something that they’re still in contention.
Baseball is a game of redemption – there’s always another game. Though, if they don’t get it together soon, there won’t be.
WORLD RECORD!!
World record? Jennifer already knew that.
Depressing read on the blog and bad loss today, but did we really think Giese vs. Lackey was a game we were going to win? So for the road trip they are 2-4 with 4 to play, I wouldn’t be surprised if they go 4-0 to finish this trip 6-4. Even 5-5 would be acceptable for a west coast trip. Hopefully they can start to put together a long streak starting tomorrow, like SJ44 said, one good week and they are back in it.
Oh and as far as the offseason, I go after CC and Manny. Manny would be worth every penny and love to play in the bronx. I’d pay 3 years $80M.
“Depressing read on the blog and bad loss today, but did we really think Giese vs. Lackey was a game we were going to win?”
Maybe not when the game started, but when Giese outpitched Lackey, folks began to believe.
travis, yep that is why I warned people not to go to any websites.
Oh yeh before I forget JT what did I tell you about those caps letters..annoying. Keep it up your off to a great start w/ you as a poster.
Here’s the weird thing Jeff I actually believed we could win w/ Giese, he hasn’t been whooped in his starts, his offense just never steps up for him (shocker good pitching + bad hitting = loss)
I’d say what gets me is how no one is stepping up other than Xavier Nady and Johnny Damon, X is the new guy can you imagine what he’s thinking ? Here he thought this team can go to the playoffs and then he sees how dumb a hitting team they are. Really I don’t want Kevin Long getting anywhere near him, X should have a 50 foot restraining order on him..it’s amazing how poor a hitting team this has turned into. Again I can believe in this BP they’ve stepped up all season but the offense has been AWOL.
The swimming events on right now are Live
Oh and as far as the offseason, I go after CC and Manny. Manny would be worth every penny and love to play in the bronx. I’d pay 3 years $80M.
Jeff you heard it from me first. Manny doesn’t want to play in the Bronx. Keep believing what you read in AP. Not too long ago I told you guys he was pissed w/ Boston and no one believed me. I even told you where still no one believed me. I can 100 % say he does not want to play in NY. NL or AL.
Oooohh close
Phelps race wasn’t.
Actually I think it was-
It started 10:04 am over there…it was on 10:04pm here
But it might have been off by a few minutes.
Um..what happened to the anthem!!
Didn’t see the game today but reading through the comments have a question. If you have to bunt Jeter with no outs to save him and the team from a double play, why is he still batting 2nd?
what if we change the rules and allow manny to keep his hair?
Manny = Disfunction Junction
sa well than that isn’t live.
I saw the results on the Daily news’s website before it aired on tv.
LOL
actually these races are live:
Here…ya can see…
Doesn’t give anything away..but ya can see when the races start and when the results are available.
As soon as this Women’s 400m Individual Medley Final started on tv…the status changed to “running”
http://results.beijing2008.cn/WRM/ENG/Schedule/SW_2008-08-10.shtml
Okay maybe I didn’t realize that my dvr was still a few minutes behind. DOH’ It’s live now.
“We’ll never know what would have happened if Jeter took his hacks.”
It would have been a GDIP any way
LOL
BBFan, it’s only funny because it’s true!
SORRY THE CAPS BUTTON IS BROKEN ; )
Franco, you are lost!!!!
first off, pettitte has been avg/inconsistent/blah all season long; no catcher can help that! Kennedy is garbage no matter who catches him, Giese i’ll give you (thats one, yippy)
On to the pen, relievers rely heavily on the catcher since they have been in the entire game (normally) and have a feel
for how the games going and what the hitters are looking for…the pen has been garbage since pudge got here
To Ponson, he did pitch one good game with Pudge; he also pitched a 2nd, 2 innings w/ pudge behind the plate and gave up 2 runs; the last 4 1/3 he pitched was with Molina and was good giving up one over those 4 1/3.
here are the #’s w/ Pudge behind the plate:
67 innings
47 runs
People, recognize how bad this really is!
there is a reason why mussinas had the year he has- MOLINA
he raves bout him every time hes asked bout his success this year.
Only hope Girardi recognizes the need for the rest of the staff
Boston wins.
Hi, JT, in a previous thread today, someone made a more effective counter-argument to yours about Pudge vs. Molina. Check it out.
pils, would you like to remind me exactly why boston is vulnerable?
Jose Contreras ruptured his achilles tendon tonight (likely done for the season)
The bottom line is that this collection of talent is not nearly worth $200 million. And the fact is that somebody – or a collection of people – in the organization are responsible for it. Is it George Steinbrenner? Is it Randy Levine? Is it Brian Cashman? To be fair, I think all of them need to share the blame. The team took a tremendous risk in giving a long-term deal to Posada and it blew up in their face. I hope he comes back strong in ‘09, but I have my doubts. The contract given out to Giambi after ‘01 turned out to be a complete disaster in hindsight – it is a blessing that he’ll be packing his bags after ‘08. Even though he has had a mediocre season by his standards, I still feel as if Cano is one of the best 2B in the ML – that being said, he’s clearly a warm weather type of player and fans are going to have to accept that. As much as I love DJ, it is clearly evident he is not nearly worth the amount of money he is getting paid per season ($21 million) – but it is what it is. I hope that this is a fluke season for him, but I fear it might be a sign of things to come. It’s not out of the question that he starts to decline in the next coming years. I said it at the time and I meant it … this A-Rod signing will come to haunt the Yanks. I’m sorry, but he’s a money hungry player at the core. There is a reason he put up a season to remember in his walk year and has taken a major step back in ‘08. Oh sure, he’ll always put up big numbers … but he’ll never be the player NY comes to love and respect. I don’t care if Abreu offers to come back for free in ‘09 … as far as I am concerned, his personality is wrong for this club. Plus, we’re talking about an OBP outfielder who does not hit for power at the #3 spot. We can move on. Cabrera is an ultimate disaster in CF and it was not hard to see coming. Considering John Manuel and John Sickels have been saying it in every chat for the past 2 seasons, he’s nothing more than a 4th or 5th outfielder at the ML level. Hopefully, Jackson will be able to take over for them in ‘09, but I think that may be rushing him. No complaints against Damon this year. He has played his heart and soul out there. He’s not the most talented of players, but he’s the sparkplug in my eyes that the Yanks need. Unfortunately, nobody else is playing behind him.
As far as the SP, God only knows. Joba has proven himself to be a very capable and talented SP with a hell of a future ahead of him. It was a tough break for Wang in ‘08, but hopefully he can come back strong in ‘09. I’d be hesitant of throwing big money at Mussina considering his age, but wouldn’t be against taking short-term deals with him at 1 year apiece (plus maybe an option). I’d rather overpay him for a short-term period than overpay a Sabathia or Sheets for a long-term period. Same goes with Pettitte, although I’d keep watch of him for the rest of the year as he’s showing signs of slowing down. Hughes and Kennedy are tremendous disappointments this year and leave a sour taste in the mouths of Yankees fans. If they had pitched well, we’d be hopeful for the future. But the fact that they have pitched so poorly (in fact, IPK hasn’t even looked deserving of being a ML player) has hurt the psyche of Yanks fans looking towards the future.
Trav,
summarize
Brandon
If he did that he is done for the season, no question!
Pat,
It’s not just the DP. Bunting allows Abreu to not even have to get a hit to score a run. No matter how good you are, you fail 70% in this game, so you take these opportunities. Also, it moves two people into the scoring position. For every hitter, it’s much easier to hit a single than a double.
The problem is that A-Rod never changes his swing. He has so much talent, and sometimes, I wish he just aims for a single up the middle. If he hits it well, it’ll be a double/HR over centerfield for him, so what’s there to lose?
here are the #’s w/ Pudge behind the plate:
67 innings
47 runs
People, recognize how bad this really is!
there is a reason why mussinas had the year he has- MOLINA
he raves bout him every time hes asked bout his success this year.
Only hope Girardi recognizes the need for the rest of the staff
You do realize that Pudge caught Andy on night that he plainly sucked..the BP basically is going through the regroup phase..they are not shutting out everyone in every game. The problem has been this offense…again this offense JT, again this offense.
You realize Pudge caught a combo of Ponson and Giese and called a great game.. the BP is another story, it’s not like he’s calling the wrong pitches, they just aren’t making them. It’s going to improve but again the Offense, the ba