Game 118: Yankees at Twins
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- August
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YANKEES (63-55)
Christian LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
A. Rodriguez 3B
Nady DH
Cano 2B
Sexson 1B
I. Rodriguez C
Cabrera CF
Ponson RHP
TWINS (65-52)
Span RF
Punto 2B
Mauer C
Morneau 1B
Kubel DH
Young RF
Buscher 3B
Everett SS
Gomez CF
Perkins LHP
Sidney Ponson (7-2, 4.23) vs. the Minnesota hitters.
Glen Perkins (8-3, 4.38) vs. the New York hitters.
Notes: Johnny Damon is 13 of 32 on the road trip. He has hit safely in 11 straight and 16 of 17. No word yet on why he isn’t playing. … The Yankees are 2-5 on the road trip, getting outscored 45-31. … They have fallen to 27-29 on the road. … The Yankees are 5-2 against the Twins. … Minnesota is a half-game out in the Central and 1.5 behind Boston in the wild card.
WE GAVE UP JEFF KARSTENS FOR THIS? Damaso Marte has appeared in eight games for the Yankees. His line: 7 innings, 7 hits, 7 earned runs, 5 walks, 11 strikeouts.
TAMING THE TWINS: Sir Sidney is making his fourth start against the Twins. He is 2-0 with a 2.25 ERA against them this season. 20 innings, 22 hits, 5 ER, 4 BB, 11 K.
Back later with updates.
UPDATE, 5:39 p.m.: Spoke to Johnny Damon, who had no idea until he showed at the park and saw the lineup that he wasn’t playing today. “I feel fine,” he said.
Hey, it’s not like the Yankees are 8.5 games out and he’s leading the AL in hitting.
UPDATE, 6:42 p.m.: Damon is out of the lineup because Girardi decided not to play him. That’s it.
“I put a lineup up,” Girardi said. “Johnny’s played a lot.”
If turf is the issue, why not DH Damon and play Nady in left? Damon is hitting .292 against lefties.
Meanwhile, Girardi would not discuss the final play of yesterday’s game, refusing to get into it other than to say it has been addressed just like everything else has been addressed.
Audio to come.
UPDATE, 6:58 p.m.: Joe Girardi said that Joba’s throwing program would start on Friday, not tomorrow as the player said.
That will make it 10 days of rest, not the week as was first reported. Girardi would not comment on what the throwing program would entail.
If the throwing program starts Aug. 15, it’s going to take at least 7-10 days to get his arm ready for a game. At that point, the Yankees will have some decisions to make. Do you bring him back if the team has fallen out of contention?
UPDATE, 7:10 p.m.: Here’s the audio of Girardi’s pre-game press conference. It’s interesting.
UPDATE, 8:25 p.m.: Great throw by Jeter there. I’m not a big believer in defensive metrics because it’s impossible to account for all the variables, particularly how players are positioned by coaches. But I do think Jeter is having a much better defensive season than last season.
UPDATE, 9:18 p.m.: The Justin Christian move isn’t going down as a great one so far. But the Yankees look flat regardless.
Meanwhile Sidney Ponson is giving them a good start.
UPDATE, 10:24 p.m.: A four-hit shutout in two hours and 14 minutes. Nice to see the Yankees grind out a big game. But Johnny got some rest.
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Christian leading off? that’s interesting.
thats cool lets give damon a rest ….
GIRARDI YOU TOOL
Another long night I’m afraid.
this lineup makes me sad for 3 reasons……
1) Damon is one of the hottest hitters on the team
2) Richie Sexson is good for nothing.
3) Melky Cabrera is good for nothing.
Christian should lean into every pitch.
HBP = 2B
Please stop with the Karstans shouldnt of been traded garbage… wow… And your a sports writer?
What do Marte’s numbers look like if you pitch him no more than one inning at a time???
This guy is a SHORT reliever/lefty specialist.
I know off the top of my hear that at least five of those seven runs have come when Girardi tried to get a second inning from the guy – four of them on swing when Marte’s pitch count was sailing into the 40’s on a 100-degree night in Texas.
What Girardi is doing with Marte (abusing him) is no different, at least in my view, that what Torre did with Proctor and some others.
Perhaps Damon is hurt.
Why not wait for an update before erupting?
if we dont win 2 of 3, i think the season is over
I’m starting to think something’s wrong with Giambi for him to NEVER be playing anymore.
Oh, wait, I realized what it is… his freaking manager!!!
I like X man behind Arod. IMO this series needs to be a sweep to get back in it.
I was reading another thread and they called “THE FRANCHISE” D.L. Hughesley. Damn. The guy hasnt even been up in the majors long enough and we have nick names of Franchise to the worst extreme. Where do they come up with this stuff? Expectations exptections expectations. Cant he just be Average Phil?
gotta think something is wrong with damon…there is no real justification for not playing him if hes not hurt
“What do Marte’s numbers look like if you pitch him no more than one inning at a time???
This guy is a SHORT reliever/lefty specialist.
I know off the top of my hear that at least five of those seven runs have come when Girardi tried to get a second inning from the guy – four of them on swing when Marte’s pitch count was sailing into the 40’s on a 100-degree night in Texas.
What Girardi is doing with Marte (abusing him) is no different, at least in my view, that what Torre did with Proctor and some others.”
i agree with u, marte is a one inning guy, dont abuse him
SJ–
Wait you mean to have a rational discussion when it comes to the lineup with all of the information. That would fly in the face of smart decision so NOT what people do here when a lineup is announced lol.
You mean Giambi and his under .200 BA against lefties and his .204 BA with RISP?
Yes, we really miss him in the lineup.
guessing damon getting a day off maybe still sore from crashing into the wall friday and dont count sexson out yet hes been better lately
Didn’t Christian get the big double vs Perkins I see nothing wrong w/ this it adds range in the OF I’d rather given Abreu the DH tonight but atleast because we are facing a LHP we have 3,4 and 5 set.
Can we fire Kevin Long already ?
Damon hurt his shoulder again diving from LF to try to block that Figgins ground ball thru Cano and Betemit…
mets lose another game because there bullpen couldnt close the game! Jerry Manual got ejected!… Does someone know why?
I’m not saying for him sitting against lefties, I’m talking about him, in general, starting 2-3 games a week, and instead having Sexson and Betemit start in his place. Seriously.
Sexon is our lefty masher. Good job getting him ABs.
Giambi is terrible… cannot wait until his contract is off the books.
Gayle,
LOL. Very true.
Gotta think something is wrong with Damon. Perhaps he reinjured his shoulder crashing into the wall Friday night and its acting up on him.
Once the beat writers have their daily tete-a-tete with Girardi, Pete will post what’s going on.
I would have to guess he wasn’t happy with the strike zone and was fired up about another blown save
agreed about the karstens crap… he needed a change of scenery and had no place in our rotation now, or ever… marte will work out for us (we do have him for another year pete), geez…
Correct me if I’m wrong but didn’t Nady miss a game because of a sore quad? I bet Joe is looking to give him a night off of the Of turf, plus he has a new favorite (it was good while it lasted, Wilson) in Two First Names in left.
As to not playing Damon at all (over Melky who is a switch hitter in name only even though he doesn’t get any hits as a righty), that’s questionable. If it’s another injury, though, yikes enough already…
Jerry Manual got ejected!… Does someone know why?
He told the ump “Gangstas on the field, ladies on the bus.â€
Yeah Girardi is getting tired of Giambis act.. Sitting him against more lefties because he just SUCKS.. His #’s are a mirage, so unclutch it makes Arod look good….
Stewie,
You do keep ragging on Arod, even when bashing Giambi, do you have a man crush on Alex?
Pirates batting coach >>> Kevin Long (yes I’m serious)
Wow this lineup sucks. Girardi really needs to stop benching Giambi. I have no problem with batting him lower in the order, but benching him against every single lefty pitcher is getting ridiculous.
If Damon’s hurt we’re really screwed. This horrible offense is downright putrid when he doesn’t play.
Now Brandon, you are smarter than that.
How is it the hitting coach’s fault?
Do you think he teaches guys not to hit with RISP?
He’s the same hitting coach that had a 968 run offense last year. Do you think he just got dumb about hitting?
Have you ever listened to Long’s interviews with Suzyn Waldman? How he talks time and time again to Giambi about going the other way and he won’t do it.
What’s he suppose to do when something like that happens?
Firing the hitting coach is not going to make the team hit. How did that work for the Mets last year? The Mariners this year?
Its not the hitting coach. Its the players.
Firing the hitting coach would be a dumb and cosmetic move. It also wouldn’t make this team hit better.
Its not one thing that’s wrong with the team. Its not an in game move. Or the hitting coach. Or the manager. Or Cashman.
Its a combination of injuries, underperforming and, truth be told, just not having enough horses to win games.
Geez, look at the lineup tonight.
Justin Christian, a career minor leaguer, leading off.
Richie Sexson, a castoff from the worst team in baseball, at first base.
Pudge, a guy who has been healthy for three days, catching.
Sidney Ponson pitching in a must win game. I repeat, Sidney Ponson pitching in a must win game.
Just how they drew it up in the off-season! lol
Seriously, its been a trainwreck of a season so far. Hopefully, they find a way to win some games.
That said, the problem with this team ain’t the hitting coach, Girardi, or any one person. Its a teamwide trainwreck.
Everybody has a hand in it.
he can’t hit lhp hurthrow
Use Marte for 1 inning or only against lefties and he will be dominant.
Have to bring him back next year.
The only reason Damon shouldn’t be in the line up is if he’s hurt. Any other reason is unacceptable. We need to win games.
Damon could DH, you could stick Nady at first. Problem solved.
Does anyone know if Orlando Hudson hurt his throwing wrist or catching wrist? I was hoping he would be the answer if we traded Cano this offseason.
Giambi has a .402 OBP and .919 OPS against lefties this year. Those numbers are very good.
Giambi should be the DH today. Nady in LF, with Christian on the bench. Jeter could leadoff. That would be the best lineup if you want to maximize runs today, assuming Damon is unavailable.
Certainly not the A Team…….And to think I was dreaming of a 7-3 road trip…..Yikes….
I understand that SJ but can he maximize a Christian, can he maximize Robi, can maximize any hitter not named Arod potential. I look at other teams and they have poorer talent, no one is crying about this lineup, this is more than efficient but can Long maximize potential. So far it’s been no.
Isn’t this game 119?
Pete:
Karstens has only been good for two starts.He would have been another Rasner in the AL.
Marte has troubles but he’s also been lights out.(I.E.striking out Ortiz and Gurerro)
He will be here next year.
Giambi 2008 splits
BA OBP SLG OPS
—-+—–+—–+—–+
vs. RH .254 .389 .518 .907
vs. LH .247 .402 .517 .919
That’s all you need to know.
SJ44
Trainwreck is right. Had to happen after 14 postseasons in succession, which will never be equalled.
Next year, a clean slate, not much baggage and lots to build on.
AND they may yet squeak in to the wild card.You can not ask for much more than the last 15 years have delivered.
Come SJ, everyone knows Long is telling Melky to keep swinging at the first pitch he sees and telling Jeter to slow down his swing.
It’s not Lomg’s fault this team is old, unathletic, and in some cases just plain incompetent.
Dear lawd almighty, please win this game!
“Sexon is our lefty masher. Good job getting him ABs.”
Oy. The guy couldn’t hit me if I went out there and threw southpaw, he is an auto-k.
Yeah Giambi has essentially been equally effective against both lefites and righties this year. Giambi is one of the better hitters on the team this year, whether you like it or not.
Ok….. here’s a moral dilemma for a lot of Yankee fans.
We know it’s highly unlikely that we’ll be seeing the postseason this year. Soooo… how many of you can honestly say that you would be disappointed if the Yanks lose this series to the Twins and the Rangers win their series with the Red Sox? The Twins could take over the lead in the Wild card race. Would it not soften the blow if the Red Sox were on the outside looking in at the playoffs with the Yanks? Be honest!
Vrsce
correction, 13 consective postseasons for the Yankees. Atlanta went to 14 straight, so 13 was not only equaled but exceeded.
Vrsce talk about crushes on Arod, are you his valet? you answer his fan mail or get his dry cleaning or do his laundry?
He has enough money arod can buy friends also and I assume someone with your limited abilites comes cheap.. IS he paying more then you were getting at MCdonalds or in security at the public library??
Let’s call a truce I think you are a jerk and you feel the same about me so let it rest..
we always play minnesota well so i think were gonna do good this series
Drive 4-5,
No I won’t root against the Yanks.
But it could be a nice silver lining after we get swept that’s for sure.
“Giambi is one of the better hitters on the team this year, whether you like it or not.”
Walker is more like it.
Rayblay how about giambino’s # with RISP???
Show them also, they are impressive if you compare him to Luis SOjo or Miguel Cairo, that is about it…
Isn’t Girardi the guy who keeps insisting their IS a “sense of urgency”????
Nothing screams “urgency” like Johnny Damon on the bench, Justin Christian leading off, Richie Sexson at first base and Melky Cabrera back in center field!
Bob(The Original),
I’m with ya. Thanks for being honest and at least acknowledging that there could be a “silver lining”. lol
Come SJ, everyone knows Long is telling Melky to keep swinging at the first pitch he sees and telling Jeter to slow down his swing.
It’s not Lomg’s fault this team is old, unathletic, and in some cases just plain incompetent.
I call it like I see it, so what the hell are we paying Kevin Long for ? I see other teams poor hitters improve w/ different hitting coachs yet this one under his watch we’ve seen how many players regress ? How can we not atleast direct a finger at him, you can’t tell me the results in hitting this season show Kevin Long is a keeper because it actually shows the opposite.
I was thinking the same thing, maybe losing to the Twins wouldn’t be so bad, but then I thought about it and wanted to punch myself in face.
Root against the Yankees because 4 games with 43 left is too much to make up? Well forget that nonsense. Part of being a fan is hoping when all hope is lost. I want the Yanks to sweep.
Marte’s appeared in 8 games for the yanks. Spin it anyway you want it but he hasn’t been overly effective. Again 6 million option for next year. Seems like a lot for a lefty specialist.
Karstens 15 innings/ no runs.
You just never know.
Let the onslaught commence! Attack ! Attack!
Walking is very valuable. Getting on base is the most important thing a hitter can do. In many cases, a walk is just as valuable as a single. Get a clue.
There is something really erm…odd… about ’sidney ponson pitching in a must win game’.
And Damon hurt is the last thing we need.
Why does this team seem to have such karma? It’s almost like the baseball g-ds don’t want us to leave YS!
For anyone who didn’t read my nuggets of wisdom on the upcoming off-season here they are:
1) Trade Cano while his value is still decent. Get Kemp from LA to play CF next year. I like his bat and glove.
2) Sign Furcal to play 2B. His bat is phenomenal and his glove is great too when healthy which I think he will be next season.
3) Sign CC or Burnett. No I am not into Sheets coming to the AL.
4)Get a bullpen arm, preferably Brandon Lyon.
5)Re-sign one of the following Andy/Moose.
6)Let Stache walk pocket his 22 mil a year and get Milton Bradley to play 1B.
Well Drive, if you put it that way…
I’ve said it before, Tampa Bay is the team of destiny this year. They just keep winning. Only hope for the rest of the league is if Coco Crisp touches off another brawl the next time they visit Boston.
sexson should play.melky should sit.damon should play.your best team plays everyday.rest in the winter.
giambi is not a platoon player.
Rebecca
If the baseball gods didn’t want us to leave YS, we would be on the way to the WS so we stay in the ballpark the longest with the extra postseason games.
Christian Vs LHP
.391 .440 .522 .962
vs Glen Perkins
.500 .500 1.000 1.500
Damon Vs. Glen Perkins
0 for 3
Christian wins!
—
Giambi vs LHP
.247 .402 .517 .919
Sexson vs LHP
.338 .421 .600 1.021
Sexson wins!
p.s. – i love small sample sizes
Fat mike coming up soon on the fan
Greg Cohen,
I’m not saying root against the Yanks. I’ll be at the Stadium at least 5 more times pulling for them to win.
But I think a lot of folks, in their heart of hearts, would find comfort if the Yanks lose this series and it helps the Twins take over the Wild Card lead.
No fan worth their salt ever roots for their team to lose.
I’ve begun to suspect that even though Long held the title of hitting coach last year the whole hitting thing was still under mattingly’s influence although Donnie was bench coach. This year Long’s on his own.
Well I got to get home now but here’s how I access Long, is he showing hitters how to work the count or just look for the pitch you can drive ?, he’s a mechanics hitting coach but a situational one he is not. The fact this team can’t hit behind a runner, can’t execute a sac fly if thier life depended on it. Situational hitting which to my opinion Kevin Long gets an F in teaching.
Maybe I’m driven by what I’ve seen around like Minny’s , Pitt’s , STL’s hitting coaches, especially LAA’s they preech situational hitting they don’t just leave it to skill. Until later lohud I stand by what I said, I would seriously give Long his pink slip he lost my vote for the season and beyond.
People:
Pete is not suggesting they shouldn’t have traded Karstens for Marte, it’s just the header of the note… Must we take everything so literally and post about it?… geez…
Cabrera and Christian should not be in the same line up.
Damon should be somewhere in there. Girardi and all his lefty righty matchups have amounted to next to nothing for them. Girardi’s looking like the bad gambler that makes worse and worse bets as he falls deeper and deeper in the hole.
saucY, you cant use Christians two ABs as proof. Damon is hot and has done a lot more over a career and Christian has played only a few games.
john habyan,
giambi hits lefties better than sexson? no.melky stinks batting righty.makes no sense.
Stuart, what’s the point when the entire rest of the team looks exactly the same, with very few exceptions? If he produces at ALL, I say put him in the lineup. If he sucks with RISP, don’t hit him 5th!
Drive 4-5,
If we fail to make the playoffs these things would soften the blow.
1.Red Sox join us in an early October vacation.
2.Angels do not win it all. Just to rain on everyone that have already crowned them as champions.
3.We rid ourselves the day after the regular season of all the dead weight. Pavano(watch him never go on the dl again),Igawa(send him back to Japan),Giambi(given too much credit for walking,need a REAL first baseman),Abreu(Lousy on defense and cant seem to keep it going on offense).
4.Have the Cubs miss out on the title as well. Keep the curse alive.
The one thing about Long is, no star like A-Rod or Giambi or the others even wants to listen to him. Long only has I think one or two seasons of experience while these guys have been successful over many seasons. The problem is with the egos of our whole freakin team.
Drive 4-5:
Spoken like a true Yankee fan. Positively diabolical, if thats possible…
im encouraged by nady behind astats and have no problem in starting christian here. (note: if this is a close game, damon will still be a big part of things, imo).
id still like to see joe shake it up alot more and break up the jeter-abreu-astats trio but at least this is SOMETHING!
SJ44 –
“Why not wait for an update before erupting?”
C’mon SJ … you should know the tendencies of half the blog by now … waiting before erupting would approach being be intelligent.
“Cabrera and Christian should not be in the same line up.”
Totally agree.
27 this year, i was trying to be sarcastic… doesn’t always work on the internet though. i should have used this –>
but i think Girardi’s logic is to stack the line-up with righties. not that i am agreeing with this logic at all.
S.o.S.27,
1. Very much agree.
2. I don’t have ill will towards the Angels. with exception of KRod, they play the game right.
3. Agree, but hedging my thoughts on Abreu.
4. We DO love curses, dont we?
Any real Yankee fans know that Karstens was never that good he is just having a few good starts in the NL. I’m glad for the kid but am I mad about the trade heck no I love the X-factor.
Jeter SS
Damon DH
Arod 3B
Abreu RF
Nady LF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez C
Cabrera CF
Doesn’t get much better than that.
Switch out Cabrera if you’re not a big fan of his, but the protection, righty/lefty alternating. It’s perfect.
Great lineup!!!! With Pudge behind the plate we have a chance to score a run or two from the bottom of the order, never mind the fact he doesn’t know our pitchers and they’ll probably give up around 7 runs tonight with him behind the plate. Also, what a brilliant decision to have a guy hitting 200 RISP in the cleanup spot EVERY SINGLE NIGHT FOR OVER TWO YEARS. Nobody would evey accuse Girardi of lacking creativity with TORRE’s lineup, that’s for sure.
Girardi, did you fake your Northwestern Diploma or what?
christian hits this guy well and damon solid play this year has alot to do with regular rest, keeping him off the turf on night is a good thing.
also want to see if christian’s speed game will shine on a quick field.
Sweep these series…. Getting swept by the best team in baseball isn’t the worst that can happen to us.
Rayblay,
batting giambino lower in the order is a reasonable suggestion I can agree with.. I love his OBP just he cannot get big hits…
maybe Girardi has the defensive lineup tonight, who the hell knows.. but the bottom line is guys like giambi have not made a case to have Girardi keep them in the lineup every day..
so many dissappointments offensively have caused Girardi to play with the lineup all the time.
” … would approach being be intelligent.”
As would proofreading one’s entry before posting.
SOS, do you realize aside from Damon and Nady, Abreu is like our hottest hitter. He is hitting right now.
Okay, has it occurred to all of you lineup bashers that maybe Damon is hurt and that’s why Christian is playing?
hurthrow,
we might as well add molina to lineup too.to much to believe.206 million dollar lineup that has cabrera and christian in it
Fan mail from some flounder…
Thanks for the compliment.. I think lol
There are 2 teams true yankee fans root for..the Yankees and whoever is playing Boston.
Arun, last year Arod hit .330 with RISP, it is this year not the past two years.
It does get better than that. Here’s a b etter lineup:
Damon (OBP/RISP)
A-Rod (OBP)
Giambi (OBP)
Nady (RISP)
Abreu (RISP)
Jeter (RISP)
Cano etc….
That lineup would rock but we’ll never see it because apparantly Girardi had a clause in his contract not to change TORRE’s LINEUP!!!!
My homer predictions for today are jeter, abreu and the x-man, any guess on who ya’ll think are gonna go yard today?
I would bet $100.00 that Girardi thinks he’s doing the team a service by resting left-handed Damon, 0 for 3 lifeime, against Perkins, and by granting Nady a “half-day” rest by DHing him.
$100 says Damon is fine or at most, “a little sore” but that once again, Girardi has succumbed to his match-up dogma and his unproven assumption that older players profit from a days rest.
27,
I know. I was referring to the fact the lineup hasn’t changed since we acquired Abreu in July, 2006, two years ago!!!!!
“given too much credit for walking”
sos, i didn’t know you were from philly
S.o.S-
Orlando Hudson had surgery on this left wrist. He throws right handed and is a switch hitter.[that doesn't sound right].Good defense hits better from right side and is a FA who is out for the rest of the season with dislocated bone and ligament damage in that wrist.
“Jeter SS
Damon DH
Arod 3B
Abreu RF
Nady LF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez C
Cabrera CF”
MyrtleBeachFan,
Hell im with you. Why even have a first baseman out there? Have the pitcher cover.
27 this year,
Yes. But i also realize that he will get a multi year contract and his defense sucks. We should switch Nady to right after this year and we have plenty of dh’s.
laura,
it’s occured to me that giradi is resting damon and his 320 average.
my prediction for tonight is that christian gets on base 3x, sexson homers twice and damon scores the winning run.
Christian LF – He’s actually Jewish
Jeter SS – Misses Joe Torre, taking it out on Girardi with GIDP’s
Abreu RF – Smilin’ Bobby makes Tino Martinez roll over in his grave
A. Rodriguez 3B – Wants to be traded to a winner……again
Nady DH – suffering from minor Karpathian kitten loss
Cano 2B – Tired of speaking english already
Sexson 1B – Just wants to play a pickup game of bball
I. Rodriguez C – SWF’ing Posada
Cabrera CF – Already planning off-season getaway with Cano & Abreu
Ponson RHP – Finally gets revenge on Yanks after all those years with Baltimore
“maybe Girardi has the defensive lineup tonight”
probably a lot of truth to this, as well. i forgot about the dump they’re playing in tonight…
“†… would approach being be intelligent.â€
As would proofreading one’s entry before posting. ”
Ansky,
If only i was intelligent enough to catch that!!
Actually i did but didnt want to rain on your parade. Keep bringing it.
HR Predictions-
You’re guessing Jeter, Abreu and Nady go yard.
I’m going with Justin Morneau, Jason Kubel amd Joe Mauer!!!!!
27 this year,
You’re probably right about that. Long (and Eiland for that matter)probably would do better with young guys rather than grey-haired veterans. But, like with alcoholics, the first step to improvement is stopping denial. If the organization doesn’t seem to make a point of situational hitting, why in the world would a bunch of lifetime .300 hitters change anything they’ve been doing for years? Sciosia doesn’t have this problem because he doesn’t collect one-dimensional hitters. It’s not coaching necessarily. It’s attitude.
Thanks Yankee Trader. I guess it doesnt look good. Too bad.
damon, irod, giambi, arod, abreu, nady, jeter, giambi, christian
is it now OK to go on the warpath? Or do we still have to wait for Girardi to give his side?
.919 ops, .402 obp against lefties and he’s sitting. ridiculous.
“Jeter SS
Damon DH
Arod 3B
Abreu RF
Nady LF
Cano 2B
Rodriguez C
Cabrera CF
Doesn’t get much better than that.”
Hey Myrtle, you need to put somebody at first base in that lineup. It’s only 8 deep. Maybe something got cut off?
“Girardi, did you fake your Northwestern Diploma or what?”
I think you’re confusing Girardi with George O’Leary.
nice one yankee trader
OK, I normally can’t stand all the lineup complaining, but Damon being healthy and out of the lineup is absurd.
Pete, is Girardi sniffing glue these days?
These guys never want to come out of a game and never think that they need a day off. As brittle as Damon is, he could use a day’s rest.
He can always be used as PH later in the game. It’s not the end of the world. This lineup needs some shaking up. Maybe they will actually score some runs tonight.
As an aside, as bad as our bullpen has been recently, take some comfort in knowing that the Mets’ bullpen is worse!!
“any guess on who ya’ll think are gonna go yard today?”
i’ll go out on a limb and say christian gets his 1st
When I look at that lineup, I can’t help but feel that Sidney Ponson pitching in a “must-win” game is not the worst of our problems tonight.
Bronx Jeers August 11th, 2008 at 5:45 pm
is it now OK to go on the warpath? ”
Most definitely. We are going to make the entire F.O. and team shower in sweat from Donnie Baseball’s and Paul O’Neil’s balls.
john
sexson has 75 points higher average and 20 points higher onbase verse lefties.giambi’s not tex.he helps the team more sitting tonight
damon probably still isnt 100% from the crash that put him on the dl. and he crashed into the wall again on this trip. now they’re plaing on turf for 3 nights at the end of a long trip.
also, he’s probably only getting half a game off tonight. he’ll ph for either melky or christian by the 8th inning and having the ability to use him in either spot may come in very handy tonight.
“any guess on who ya’ll think are gonna go yard today?â€
Morneau, Young, Mauer. MAybe even Punto. lol
Ponson will throw a no hitter for 9 innings, except we will be tied at 0 with the Twins.
And then we will lose in the 10th on a walkoff HR.
Just saw the lineup and I am FURIOUS!!! This is the most mad I am at Giradi all year. We need Johnny in the lineup – clutch hits & always on base. He is a money player and this is the money time of the year.
Sad, very sad.
Now, you have a right to complain about the lineup.
If Damon is ok, he’s got to be in the lineup.
He’s the only guy that started the year with the team that has hit all year.
Can’t keep him out of the lineup if he isn’t hurt.
“Ponson will throw a no hitter for 9 innings, except we will be tied at 0 with the Twins.
And then we will lose in the 10th on a walkoff HR.”
It certainly says something about this season that if this happened I wouldn’t be surprised.
Look on the bright side:
At least Betemit isin’t in the lineup.
Hopefully it’s nothing serious with Damon and Girardi is just giving him one less day to have to battle the turf at the Metrodome. Besides that and injury, the only other reason I can figure is that Perkins is a lefty. Damon has been swinging well lately though, so that shouldn’t matter.
What in the Hell is going on with this team? Can someone please ask Girardi what he is thinking and that every yankee fan in New York thinks he has his head up @##!
I agree Rob Thompson. If healthy there is zero reason he should not be playing tonight. Heck if he is abanged up a bit he should be in there. It’s do or die time. What the heck are you resting them for at this point? Their October vacations?
Rob,
We are still not sure if he’s hurt.
“If Damon is ok, he’s got to be in the lineup.
He’s the only guy that started the year with the team that has hit all year.
Can’t keep him out of the lineup if he isn’t hurt”
Agreed. With an afternooner on Wednesday and Thursday off, there should be plenty of “rest time” before Friday. It’s “sense of urgency” time folks!
“He’s the only guy that started the year with the team that has hit all year.”
I think you forgot Arod on that list.
Read PEte’s update. Damon is fine.
Perkins has allowed 4 or more runs in his last 3 starts, 5 against the Mariners-his last start! His ERAs against lefties is 3.72, righties 4.54, but lefties are batting .338 vs righties batting .293
What that all means to me is he’s:
1. Lousy pitcher
2. Lots of lefty “contact” hitters get on base but don’t score.
3. Damon might need a rest, or Girardi and Long don’t pay any attention to a pitcher’s situational stats!!
Ian Kennedy. I don’t believe he’ll ever pitch another meaningful game in pinstripes again. (holding back tears)
“Read PEte’s update. Damon is fine.”
My bad. Count me in on the pissed off wagon!!
If they want to rest him, DH him! It’s his bat that they need.
damon has to play
everyone that can play needs to play at this point
it’s been a terrible year with all the injuries and such, but you can’t rest guys right now
melky needs to start hitting
i hope ponson can continue his good pitching tonight… tex & laa are better than min
I’m interested to see how this lineup performs, i’m not as against it as others are. We put the fastest guy on the team in the leadoff spot which can work out in our favor, and it’s defensive oriented. While it does suck to have Damon out for no apparent reason, Christian gives us a boost in stealing ability and in defense… Sexson is close to Giambi against LHP and is also a defensive upgrade.
I’m fine with this lineup, shake things up a little
maybe he wants damon as a pinch hitter off the bench?
I think Joe G really needs to just completely shake up the lineup. At least show you can somehow manage somehow different than Torre. (Not counting the time he moved A Rod to 8th). Can I put in a patent for this lineup?
Jeter
Damon
Nady
Abreu
A Rod
I Rod
Giambi
Melky
Cano
Stuart,
OK truce,
If Arod is seen to have not performed by the end of the season, then I am a jerk, if he has been seen to perform, then you are the jerk.
Jury is still out. We will have to rely on the prevailing opinion of the blog for the verdict.
Shame on Girardi, I hope he enjoys his loss tonight.
“maybe he wants damon as a pinch hitter off the bench?”
You don’t save your hottest hitter for 1 at bat instead of getting him 4 or 5.
Can we all agree that Karstens is the NEXT Pedro? I mean he did take a no hitter to 8th inning. And here we thought that it was Tabata that we would regret trading.
Bat A-Rod leadoff. Rationale: (1) He won’t face the pressure of having to hit as often with RISP; (2) He’s good for plenty of leadoff HRs; (3) Decent speed; (4) Would make for interesting copy
“He’s the only guy that started the year with the team that has hit all year.”
you have to add arod to that list as well.
Wow, that does it. Girardi needs a break. Give him like ten years in another organisation.
Mismanaged at least the last 2 games, and now can’t even do the little things right? I can’t believe it.
By the way, Girardi almost always does the little things wrong… his team too.
You can’t win if everybody wants to be a masterminded hero. Girardi doesn’t even blame Rodriguez for his bad steal yesterday. It’s just frustrating that a random fand would probably manage the Yankees better if he just doen’t try something too special.
Jeff – I’d like to see Jeter leading off and Damon second, with Giambi down in the lineup, but doubt it’ll happen.
Damon
Jeter
Nady
Abreu
A Rod
Cano
I Rod
Giambi
Melky
this looks better to me. we need damon’s speed at the top. jeter could go lower, but i dont think that will happen this year. i have more confidence in nady hitting 3rd than abreu, who seems like an easy groundball out sometimes, and arod, who seems like an easy K many times.
giambi & melky really need to catch fire… if melky’s 4 day benching didn’t light a fire under his ass, then he can be a bench player, & we can use christian’s speed in that spot
Girardi’s over-thinking is ridiculous. A third-grader would know you play Damon today.
S.o.S.27
“Karstens the next Pedro?”
Is that the Red Sox Pedro or the Mets Pedro?
LMAO
a good manager wins you 5 games a year. girardi has lost us about 3-4 so far. that’s too much to overcome with the injuries. absolutely no reason to not play damon and play both christian and melky. dh damon and play nady in left is the obvious move and play christian in cf if you want his speed and possibly okay obp against lefties. boggles the mind how incompetent girardi has been all year. it’s a shame cause cash has been doing a great job with inseason moves to really help him out. getting nady and pudge for a song and still we don’t put our best lineup out there is unfathomable.
Melky’s gotta play today, it is his birthday!
mine
““He’s the only guy that started the year with the team that has hit all year.â€
I think you forgot Arod on that list.”
yours
“you have to add arod to that list as well.
Hey ronkillings,
I have copy rights to that comment. Ill see you in court.
I think Girardi needs to send a message and really shake up the lineup… something like this.
Christian LF
Jeter SS
Abreu RF
Betemit 3B
Cano 2B
Sexon 1B
Pudge DH
Molina C
Cabrera CF
Lets see if that fires up the team.
you can’t bench both giambi and damon today. at least get one of them in the lineup. this is absurd.
“Damon
Jeter
Nady
Abreu
A Rod
Cano
I Rod
Giambi
Melky”
Need somebody better than Cano to protect Arod.. this is no good
MKay just said that the players had “had enough” of Kennedy. They’re trying to win a spot in the playoffs and wanted him (and his delusions) out of the clubhouse.
He said IPK honestly thinks he’s great.
I would rather lose with 2 lefties..Damon and Giambi in the lineup then Christian leading off and Sexson. Girardi should just move everyone up instead of having someone who has played..what 4 times in the last month batting lead off. Just more stuff from Girardi that doesnt make sense.
RE: Damon not playing
I’m so cross-eyed with all of this at this point that I think my mantra is going to have to be: Girardi knows what he’s doing.
I’m still trying to figure out why with a runner on 3rd and either nobody out or one out it wouldn’t be automatic to punch a ball to the outfield, especially in what appears to be a very low-scoring game. So because I know I can’t figure that out, I know I can’t figure anything out on a more complex level.
Since I’m not about assigning individual goat horns during games and I will only get as far as the generic questioning (understanding that sometimes life happens, especially when you have someone as dependable at the plate as Abreu and once in a while he doesn’t get the job done…) here’s what happens with me instead. When unhappy and not-readily-understandable/explainable Yankee-oriented things continue to happen over an extended period of time, it finally ends up affecting my sleep. Yes as sad as that is to acknowledge, nonstop Yankee losses work their way into my psyche and I find it has an affect on my sleep patterns and general disposition!
I would assume that Yankee diehards can accept that as coming under the rubric of “I have been a fool for lesser things” (One of my favorite lines from Billy Joel songs).
So I guess if this post sounds like nonsensical babble – uh more than what you could consider my norm that is
– we can seriously blame it on the cumulative effects of lack of damned sleep.
If Damon is not to play, having Christian lead off is the next best thing in terms of what we have to offer. If Girardi is giving Damon a night off to rest him, I have to say that historically the Twins would be the team to do it against.
(Try to) GO YANKEES.
LOL sorry S.O.S. 27…hehe
yeah mark sit Damon and Nady, that would be brilliant.
“Is that the Red Sox Pedro or the Mets Pedro?
LMAO”
Niiice..
I hope you know i was kidding.
Pudge RUINED the pitching staff and bullpen.
Im so sick of Girardi. He is the pitts.
now watch this lineup go out there and score 10 runs.
Wang
If Michael Kay said it, it must be true!!!
That means the Yankee players will be seething when Pavano is brought up!!
This is what drives me crazy about Girardi.
You’ve got 3 automatic outs in Melky, Christian, and Sexson with a guy like Ponson who’s barely getting out of jams when he pitches.
Not a great formula.
Jose, sometimes you are just out of choices. With Jorge down, I guess they didn’t want to chance having something happen to Molina without a really solid backup plan. So that one kind of just fell into their laps with Pudge. I loved Kyle but understood their doing what they did. What’s unfortunate is that it happened at the point in the season that it did, with every win being so critical and Pudge not knowing the staff. But what can you do? You hope you find a way to muddle through and things even out quickly enough because he has been an HOF catcher.
“MKay just said that the players had “had enough†of Kennedy. They’re trying to win a spot in the playoffs and wanted him (and his delusions) out of the clubhouse.
He said IPK honestly thinks he’s great.”
Maybe the under achievers on the team need to remember the time they were great and play like it.
Just saw on ESPN that Evan Longoria went on the DL – fractured wrist.
No, I’M PATRICK BATEMAN!!!!
personally i like the lineup. everybody here’s all hot on developing the young guys, lets see what christian’s got (against a guy he’s seen and hit!). damon may not be injured but he’s definitly not 100% and isnt gonna play all 3 games this series.
rooting big time for christian to come through and who knows, maybe damon pinch runs for sexson late in the game and scores the game winner.
you cant just keep throwing the same lineup out there everday when they’re not getting the job done.
Patrick- Definitely not fair!!
We give Twins 3 automatic outs in Melky, Christian and Sexson, so let’s see that’s a minimum of 9 outs.
Twins only giving us 1 automatic out in Everett!!
There should be a law!!!
This may have been already discussed, but the Rays lost Longoria today, so they will be without Crawford and Longoria.
AWWW!!!!
Anyway, I like a hybrid version of something 4-5 suggested and something that was suggested by another poster later – can’t remember the poster.
If a reliable genie were to come along and tell us the Yanks wouldn’t be in the postseason, then yes I would be willing to have the Twinkies annihilate us as long as the Sux were annihilated by the Rangers – but as part of the deal I agree that the Angels must be sent to hell!
Hey if it can’t be us, I seriously wouldn’t mind seeing the Rays take it all.
If the lineup all year has been really good and everyone has been hitting like they should then to throw some automatic outs in it for a day is ok. But the lineup has been awful all year so to throw these useless people into it AND also take out Giambi and Damon is something you cant do and expect to score some runs. Especially with Ponson on the mound and on turf…not good they need more then 5 runs tonight.
“Just saw on ESPN that Evan Longoria went on the DL – fractured wrist.”
Didnt they just lose Crawford? Is a callapse too little too late?
they got baldelli back yesterday though
It can happen….. there offense stinks now.
baldelli is pavano lite
I no longer worry about other teams. The Yankees don’t need other teams to lose, they beat themselves. Having a manager who thinks he’s smarter than everyone else doesn’t help.
First Crawford, now Longoria, next Kazmir gets hurt and the Rays become the Rays!
Yanks just need to get on a roll and things will take care of themselves
Tough break for the Rays, I hate to see people get injured, even if it’s the opposition.
The Yanks just need to focus on the wild card because the Rays are not fading, despite every moron trying to convince themselves and others they are.
With Longoria, Crawford, Wakefield on the DL, this team just HAS to capitalize now to barely make the playoffs.
Am I the only person who’s been impressed with how WELL the Yankees have been playing?
Seriously.
Yeah, yeah, this was a lost weekend. But let’s consider the givens: The team’s best pitcher — Wang — seemed en route to a 20-win season (maybe even 25). He’s gone.
Our two best young prospects, Kennedy and Hughes — both of whom were in the opening-day rotation — I figured for about a dozen wins each, at least. Maybe 15 wins each. We know the total number of wins these guys have had: zero.
Zero!
Then there’s Posada, who hit, what, .330 last year, seems to have a very good rapport with the pitchers, and appears to me to be a clubhouse leader. He’s gone.
And Matsui, with his 25 dingers last year, he’s gone.
And our new ace, Joba, he’s gone for however long.
Let’s not forget we have a new manager.
And Jeter, among others, is having a below-average year.
In fact, everyone on the team, except Mo and Damon, are having average or below-average years.
Take all that into account — the injuries, the bad luck, the rough side of the law of averages (especially with RISP) — and I, for one, would expect this team to be in the cellar, even with a $200 million payroll.
The fact that the team is actually in contention for a wild card spot seems to me a minor miracle.
In fact, given the givens, I feel it’s fair to say that this is one of the more intriguing seasons the Yanks have had since the 2000 Series.
If they do actually make it to the playoffs — wow, it would have to be considered a fantastic achievement.
Yes, it’d be great to be the Angels, a baker’s dozen up in the standings, but if you take a half-step back and see how many body blows this team has endured, and to be only a handful of games back in the wild-card race, well, I say it’s been a GREAT season.
I mean it.
Not an easy season, mind you (1998 happens maybe once in a lifetime).
Not good for the heart. Not dominant. Not always fun to watch.
But, really, shockingly, the team has been playing better than expected — given all that’s happened. In fact, I say they’ve been playing great.
Yeah, I said it: Great.
Not to add a downer, but this is from Chad Jennings’ Blog:
Dave Miley’s son was killed in an automobile accident.
http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.com/Blogs/SWBYankees/tabid/552/Default.aspx
nothing is impossible, but it’s extremely late right now
we should concentrate on winning the wild card
what kind of line up is this? I understand we are facing a lefty but why is Damon sitting and Melky is playing. If you want to rest Damon let him DH. We are at the point of the season when we have to win games and hope that the Rays, Red Sox, White Sox and Twins lose some games.
This is the most frustrating season I have seen since the late 60’s when the Yanks were bottom dwellers.
What a brutal line-up tonight, What is Girardi thinking?
I was a big fan of making Girardi manager over Mattingly. He showed what he can do with the Marlins and he just seemed to bring a real discipline and toughness with him that contrasted with what would have probably been more of the same with an easygoing Mattingly. At this point in the season I think we can recognize both the good and the bad with Girardi. As far as I see it, the good is he has that professional, uncompromising desire to win – every day – that Torre had. Girardi also brings a level of intensity (it seems anyway) that perhaps wasn’t there in the Torre days. Unfortunately I’m starting to get annoyed with the bad things: dishonesty with injuries chief among them. I hear the “why tip off the opposition about what weapons we have” argument. What bothers me, though, is the dishonesty seems to be a common trend with the Girardi regime. Bobby Meacham as a good third base coach, Betemit seeing any playing time whatsoever, sitting Damon today (barring any future revelations of injury)… The list goes on. I wonder if Girardi is deceiving himself as well….
i dont know about you guys, but im rooting like hell for pavano to come back, force his way into the rotation and then have a phenominal september. that doesnt mean i like pavano, but before his injuries he was a solid major league pitcher, he’s on our roster and the yankees are paying him around $2.5M for the rest of this season whether he pitches or not.
so i think he will, no, do i hope he does, absolutly.
Marte is a good reliever, just don’t use him for 2 innings every time. We finally have a guy in our bullpen who can get out Ortiz, Garrett Anderson, Jim Thome, etc. The guy is flat out nasty against lefties. Just use him properly.
They’ll be playing come October….I’ve taken heat all season about this, why change now…..Phil Hughes and the return of Chamberlain will fix the rotation…The key is the return of a productive Matsui…..
So Damon is 0 for 3 against Perkins, which means nothing.
But Mekly is 4 for 5 against him, which might mean something.
*Melky* is 4 for 5.
Sigmund-
Given all that has happened the Yankees are playing great???
Sorry but you need to see Freud!!!
Pat you really think the yankees will allow Chamberlain to come back?
Girardi’s lineups get stranger and stranger every day. Let’s hope this one is just crazy enough to work! But why on god’s good green earth Damon would sit, I don’t know.
Also, will Giambi ever see the light of day against a lefty again? What part of “the alternative is Richie Sexson” does Girardi not understand?
Seeing the Big G on the bench is especially frustrating now that he’s been starting to hit a bit again. The game he homered in early last week, he was sitting the very next day. His production is very important to this team, why sit him a few times a week and disrupt his rythym JUST when he’s beginning to heat up again?!
Anyone else think Milton Bradley and his obscenely high OPS would be a good fit for the Yanks. As a result of his recent injury history I think he would be a good candidate to be the everyday 1B not a lot of athleticism is necessary and it is a prime offensive position.
way to go pat!
we’re 4 games out with 6 weeks to play!
anybody remember 1978? i do and i never lost faith that year. (okay so i was young and naive!) but c’mon, people, this is NOTHING!
2 good weeks will have ppl running out to buy bigger decals for thier hondas!
this is a test of our fanhood, the biggest one in 15 years! hang with your team, you’ll never regret it!
Let’s Go Yankees!!!!!
whats with this crappy lineup are we playing a team from the little league world series?
The must win game of the year and he sits Damon and Giambi vs a lefty??
I forgot that this is Sandy Koufax.
Girardi has been pretty damn terrible all season.
Marte is better than it seems. He needs to be used one inning at a time. Unfortunately, the bullpen has been spread pretty thin as of late.
I understand that Girardi is trying to rest guys regularly, but he just chooses aweful times to do it. It seems like every time a guy has a good game or series, he gets rested. Given how desperate this team is for wins, Damon should play every day until he needs a rest. Him and Nady are the only players consistently hitting right now.
I’ve been fine with Pavano coming back, period, if he can help the team. I’ve never been one to want to turn down any possible help (except I didn’t consider Kennedy helpful ).
“Dave Miley’s son was killed in an automobile accident.”
And suddenly who hits where in the Yankees lineup really becomes very irrelevant to me.
Man alive, I wish for peace for the Miley family. God help all of them.
By the way: If you put this line-up out, then you can probably sit A-Rod too – just for discipline reasons because he tried the ridiculous steal yesterday and did not even apologize.
Wanzies
That’s horrible. My thoughts and prayers are with Dave Miley and SWB.
Milton Bradley is a .162 hitter this season with the bases loaded and 2 outs.
Pass.
This is a worse lineup than most National League clubs put out there right now.
Who scares you?
A-Rod is garbage. He can’t hit a lick with a man on. Jeter is a ground ball machine.
Marte is a guy who is a small town, bad team player.
He does well on the bad teams in a market where no one bothers him.
New York and him don’t mix.
Nady feels he never left Pittsburgh.
Calzones – I think the 2005 World Champion Chicago White Sox might beg to differ on Marte’s inability to handle good teams and large markets.
Yes I do…..If he’s starting a throwing program, then the chances of anything seriuosly wrong with his arm is unlikely…..I do think that he’ll be back in about 10 days….I never did think there was a deep problem…..Where he pointed that night indicated to me that
it was more of a minor strain , not structual….This just happened less than a week ago, and now he’s throwing…He’s coming back…..Besides I doubt we’ll know the truth until the off season……
The only good thing about this season is it may mean a short tenure for Girardi. He is not a good manager and he is showing how out-classed he is. His solution to everything is by the book or change the lineup.
Long appears to have outlived his usefullness as well. If a Hitting Coaches job isn’t to get those who are in prolonged slumps moving in the right direction, then why have the position at all. The Yankees don’t have anything like the same approach as they have in years past. Either that is on Girardi or Long, or both.
Marte pitched 2 games in the playoffs for the Sox. He got shelled against the BoSox.
He also had a very solid 1.72 WHIP in 2005.
Yeah, he showed he can handle a big market.
Get your facts straight before you come at me, yo.
Now we all know why Girardi was run out of Miami…Bring back Donnie Baseball…Now.
Bring on Football season….
What the hell is Girardi doing here! I thought he would be much better than this. This is just ridiculous!
renslear :
isnt it rensslaer?
i used to live in schenectady,
my best friends live in schaghticoke.
they say the names are indian, but i think the indians were just messin with us, making up one name more rediculous and unpronouncable than the next, trying to keep a straight face while the dutch bought em all, hook line & sinker.
Not to add a downer, but this is from Chad Jennings’ Blog:
Dave Miley’s son was killed in an automobile accident.
Just horrible news.
Girardi is one strange man. I wanna know whether he’s a terrible manager or some mad formulating baseball scientist. The Yankees record shows the former but who am I to judge the guy?
I don’t want to see Joba rush back and get hurt for this team of quitters who can’t even attend the service for Bobby Murcer.
Ok this series is big but the bigger concern is the playoffs which coming fast. If yankees dont make every yankee fan will go nuts so if the yanks dont make the playoffs be prepared to see some big off seasons moves like pitching and offense. Also if Giradi cant do it this
year he must go and its Willie time. I Hope.
At minimum, the Yanks will need 90 wins to capture the wildcard. That means going 27-17 over the final 44. Even with that, Boston needs to do no better than 23-21. Time to start winning two out of every three.
“This is a worse lineup than most National League clubs put out there right now.
Who scares you? ”
Sexson scares me…but that has more to do with his size than his skill…the guys huge.
Wow, that’s terrible news about Miley’s son. Terrible news. Nothing is worse than losing a child, nothing. My heart goes out to him and his family.
“UPDATE, 6:42 p.m.: Damon is out of the lineup because Girardi decided not to play him. That’s it.”
That is NOT acceptable! Girardi needs to go!
This is one time that I have to call Girardi out. Seriously – there is plenty of time for Johnny to rest in the off-season. I don’t exactly sense a great deal of urgency with Joe and I’ll bet the players feel the same way. He expects them to bust their behinds and play for their possible post-season lives, but he doesn’t have to do the same? He can’t play for them, but Joe as manager OWES it to the team to put the best team out there. This is a decision that Girardi will pay for.
papi out of lineup with soreness in wrist. Have to capitalize on somehong here…
You knew Damon wouldn’t play the field in all three games on turf, and for good reason. So why not just have him DH?
Bring Donnie Baseball back.
God knows he wouldn’t sit Damon and Giambi against lefty’s.
“UPDATE, 6:42 p.m.: Damon is out of the lineup because Girardi decided not to play him. That’s it.â€
Can someone tell Girardi this isnt the nfl. There is only one wildcard per league. Not a good time to rest guys!!
Damon is out of the lineup because Girardi decided not to play him. That’s it.
“I put a lineup up,†Girardi said. “Johnny’s played a lot.â€
If turf is the issue, why not DH Damon and play Nady in left? Damon is hitting .292 against lefties.
Meanwhile, Girardi would not discuss the final play of yesterday’s game, refusing to get into it other than to say it has been addressed just like everything else has been addressed.
eh..
So Damon is fine and is just getting some rest?
Well, we will see if this lineup can do anything.
My hopes are low, maybe I will be pleasantly surprised?
Anywho, Michael Phelps going for Gold Medal number 3 tonight. Should be on Live 10:15pm-ish
“I don’t want to see Joba rush back and get hurt for this team of quitters who can’t even attend the service for Bobby Murcer.”
You don’t have to worry.
Most of the perception on Joba’s injury is completely wrong. He theoretically could have made his start in Anaheim. What they saw in his shoulder they said 90% of everyday players have, and a lot of normal non-baseball players have. Them putting him on the 15 day DL is MORE than being cautious. That’s the cautious part. Keeping him out for any extended period of time becomes super-babying.
i dont see the big deal, damon likely wasnt gonna start all 3 games, and is also very likely to be in this game by the 7th inning. girardi is resting the guy who took another big wall crash last week. also helps that christian has hit this guy well.
everybody wanat the lineup shaken up but just as surely most are gonna bitch at whatever changes he tries. i just hope that if they win and chritian or damon are involved in the winning rally, that some of you will credit girardi tommorow.
Every time I hear these super fans talk playoffs I picture Jim Mora.
“we’re 4 games out with 6 weeks to play!
anybody remember 1978? i do and i never lost faith that year. (okay so i was young and naive!) but c’mon, people, this is NOTHING!
2 good weeks will have ppl running out to buy bigger decals for thier hondas!
this is a test of our fanhood, the biggest one in 15 years! hang with your team, you’ll never regret it!
Let’s Go Yankees!!!!!”
man thats a good post..lets all live by it for now
What’s perhaps most troubling about the final 1/4 of the season, is that, unlike in recent years, there really aren’t any series that you point to and say, “The Yanks will get fat against X.” Are they finally going to beat Baltimore? Can they hit Toronto pitching? I think they struggle more against these two than they do versus Boston. And I don’t blame Girardi. This is a very flawed team.
It might be time to face a little reality. And realize this team isn’t that good. It is a solid 84 win squad. Not terrible. But not playoff worthy in the AL.
You can blame injuries because they certainly do bear some blame. Posada’s loss has killed us. Matsui was playing like an MVP when he went down. Wang is our ace and was on his way to 20 wins.
But I’ll blame the young players. We have received contributions from one guy. Joba.
Hughes, Kennedy, Cano, Cabrera, Duncan have all failed miserably. Not a good word can be said about any of them.
OH, now it makes perfect sense for Damon to be out of the lineup. He needs rest. This despite the fact that he has been resting for a while because of being on the DL.
Brilliant.
I never wanted Girardi, and he is showing why all the time. He isn’t a good manager.
Pete not exactly sure why you are nit picking. 7 days and 10 days what is the difference?
Also Joe probably addressed that play with the players involved. Why bring it to the media?
If Girardi keeps gettin pushed by the media and the Yanks keep losin he might do the Jim Mora thing plus some. “holy patootie playoffs,patootie playoffs?”
Hate to take joy in someone else’s pain. But its about time the rays got by by the injury bug. Crawford might b out 4 season. and Longoria has a wrist fracture.
What’s the big deal about Damon sitting?
Whats the big deal?
We need a WIN and we need our best on the field!
The guy who is fighting for a batting title should be out there ahead of Justin Christian.
Seriously. How many innings will Perkins last? Why does Girardi think these lefty’s are God’s gift?
Damon not playing not exactly 60 Minutes material.
As pointed out by others he isn’t going to play all three on this turf.
Petes personal disdain for girardi is getting really old. He doesn’t report to lohud. Enough already.
He is supposed to be objective. It’s impossible to believe he is when every day he is firing off another missive about how dishonest or awful girardi is.
The no-(Spanish word for more with an extra a in there) guys are right. It’s undermining his credibility.
Go Getter — I agree with most of what you write. However, is it the fault of the young players, or a judgement error on the part of the GM who thought they were ready? This is Cashman’s construction.
They will score 10 runs. Everybody needs to calm down.
Crawford might b out 4 season. and Longoria has a wrist fracture.
http://emedia.thetimes-tribune.com/Blogs/SWBYankees/tabid/552/Default.aspx
Prayers go out to Dave’s family.
The Rays would need a collapse of Met proportions to lose a playoff spot. It’s basically down to Sox, Twins, Yanks, Sox for 2 spots.
“everybody wanat the lineup shaken up but just as surely most are gonna bitch at whatever changes he tries. i just hope that if they win and chritian or damon are involved in the winning rally, that some of you will credit girardi tommorow.”
That’s not shaking up the line up. This is just a B lineup on a day when we need an A lineup.
44 games left
8.5 back of the rays (longoria just went on the DL).
4 back of Boston for the WC (no wakefield, no papi).
The Twins are second in the WC chase.
We need the best out there every day.
unless of course Girardi gave up like Cano did yesterday.
Pete,
You’re really nitpicking on the number of days? If they knew it was going to be exactly 10 days, I’m sure they would’ve told us.
If this is a flawed team, as so many elude to, how did they do so much better last year? The biggest change, despite the injuries, is the manager and coaching crew. The drop off in hitting is alarming, and its supposed to be the hitting coaches’ job to rectify that.
Girardi is over his head. If the Yankees make it to the post season, it will be despite Girardi, not because of him.
““holy patootie playoffs,patootie playoffs?—
Watch your mouth! There are children that read this blog! Patootie..Never heard that term before. Southern?
I hope the Yanks will not make the playoffs this year. This bunch of hacks and GIDP kings just don’t deserve it.
go getter
you can blame injuries for being as far out as we are now, but you cant blame injuries for people giving up on the season with 6 weeks left.
do you guys worship the red sox or something, you think we cant make up 4 games in 6 weeks? we might make it up this month! the sox aint that freakin great. and we can set the twins straight starting tonight.
the story of this season is only in the 2nd act at this point.
“Go Getter — I agree with most of what you write. However, is it the fault of the young players, or a judgement error on the part of the GM who thought they were ready? This is Cashman’s construction.”
Zman, who didn’t think they were ready? After the way they pitched last season, are you gonna tell me you didn’t want them starting this season? Give me a break with that comment
Let me preface my comments by stating that his blog is the best, and Pete does a terrific job. But, it is funny that Pete can’t better veil his obvious disdain for Girardi much as he couldn’t veil his absolute love of Torre.
If only the Mets were 7 games up on us and only 17 left to play…
Cashman has got to be held responsible for the young players. He is the one who evaluated them and considered them to be good enough to help a title seeking team.
That’s his job. To figure out what prospect is a star and who should be moved for good players now.
He failed that job. Big time. It’ll cost us a playoff berth and in a weak year it looks like it’ll cost us a title.
You tell me a rotation of Santana-Wang-Pettitte-Joba-Moose doesn’t win 95 games?
Injuries happen but that is a late 90’s Yankee rotation.
As for trading Hughes. Sometimes you have to give up good to get good. No one gives you anything for free. Hughes is a good prospect but hasn’t impressed me. His stuff is average. He’s young. Maybe one day he fulfills his promise but that’s a big risk.
Young pitching is a huge risk. We got lucky with Joba. Cashman really played the odds thinking all three were sure things. He could have moved them for another sure thing.
From everything I read the system is plentiful with pitching. They aren’t all going to make it. You take from a strength and add to a weakness. We got no lefty pitching in the system and Santana happened to be available and in his prime.
It was a no brainer.
Now they are going to go out there in November and overpay for 2 pitchers that aren’t as good as Santana. And look to trade Kennedy for peanuts.
Guess what, guys? Girardi got the job, and he gets to put the lineups together. When you get your big league manager job, you can put up whatever lineup you please. You can grind your best players into the ground until they’re not your best players. You can figure out the best way to deal with they players you’re forced to play because 2 of your key guys are on the DL.
Wow. Tough crowd tonight, and the game hasn’t even started….
Girardi scares me. Imagine what he does in a short series IF we do make the playoffs.
Agree RSM – It’s not Girardi’s fault that Hank/Hal fired Torre. He should take his anger out on management, not Girardi himself. Girardi has made a few mistakes this season, but nothing to warrant the constant shots he takes from Pete.
Just goes to show you… objectivity is a lost art in journalism.
To Girardi defenders:
What has he done this year that has been good? What move has been great?
Don’t say the pen because we have seen how that’s been working out the past 3 weeks.
Has he lit a fire under Cano at all?
Has he got Alex to hit with men on?
Has he used his bench?
has any young kid improved since last yr? all I’ve seen is regression
mel – i heard that! well-said.
pete needs to put away the petty grievance he has against the manager. its getting really tiring to read. every day its something new. girardi said 7 days, it will be ten?
OMG WHAT A JACKA$$!!!
give me a break. just because you don’t get any scoops from him doesn’t mean the rest of us hate him. we know managers aren’t 100% straightforward all the time. guess what?
we don’t care.
Not good. The game hasn’t even started and it’s already hostile here. This place really needs a win to adjust the mood.
Midas, well Joba improved from a star reliever to a star starter…
People like mel and Pat M are why no guy ever listens to a female talk sports.
They just don’t get it.
Santana is overrated, how can you say Sabathia isn’t as good as him? Santana goes 6 or 7 innings, barely EVER goes 8 or 9, and barely EVER can you say he single handedly won a game. Sabathia goes 8-9 innings wayyy more often, and single handedly dominates and wins games all on his own… he’s more of an ace than Santana by far.
go getter has it all figured out.. the santana train left the station about 120 games ago.. yeah santana hs helped the mets to be a 7 above 500 team in the NL, he is Koufax.. The guy is a very good 6 inning pitcher…
Who are these 2 pitchers we are going to overpay for in the offseason??
I bet you they will sign no more then 1 starting pitcher if it happens, but spout your monday morning crap join the club with other losers like you..
I’m with Pete on the Girardi thing.
He makes head scratcher move after head scratching move. And he acts like he’s won 5 titles. And doesn’t give any info out.
Sweet Lou should be managing. If they had the guts to fire Torre in 2006 he would be.
midas, i’m a guy, and you’re a sexist jacka$$.
How is Santana better than sabathia at this point in their careers. Santana can hardly reach 93 mph anymore please stop.
Donny: I don’t think I would say Santana is overrated, but I do like CC better. He eats innings, can be dominant, and is just coming into his prime.
time, game start = ??
Love all these people getting on Cashman for letting Hughes and Kennedy start this season… I highly doubt that any of those tools were saying that at the end of last season. EVERYBODY saw talent and promise in how they pitched last year, and concluded they would get even better this year.
Johnny Damon is leading the league in hitting. The Yankees have lost 10 of the last 15 games.
Johnny Damon is one of the hottest hitters on the team.
Johnny Damon can’t sit for Justin Christian tonight.
This is Justin Christian, a career minor league player.
He’s here for 3 reasons: Melky has been awful this year, Matsui is hurt, and Brett Gardner hit .160 in his trial in NY.
Sorry but, those aren’t the credentials you need to have to play over the leading hitter in the league. Especially when Damon is says he is healthy and Girardi didn’t say he’s not.
I don’t care what hand Glen Perkins throws with, you don’t sit the leading hitter in the AL for a career minor leaguer when your team is in a freefall.
Doesn’t mean Girardi should be fired (he shouldn’t). Just means he’s making a bad choice tonight.
Just like Joe Torre sitting Cabrera to get Sheffield and Matsui into the lineup in the ‘06 playoffs. Sometimes, good managers make bad decisions.
IMO, not starting Damon tonight is a bad decision.
Hey DONNYBBALL – I’m not the world’s biggest Santana fan, but do you think he begs out of the many games when he’s up a few runs in the late innings? If the Mets had any bullpen at all, his record would be impressive.
The thing about the whole Santana vs Sabathis debate has to do with a few things. One, Sabathia never was such a true ace until last year. Before that, he was more of an innings eater but never a dominating ace. Santana for many years had dominated the league and not just once.
Midas…Not certain as what your point is ???
you guys call damon our best hitter and you’re mad at girardi?!
jeter, astats, abreu and giambi are all supposed to be better hitters than damon and you guys are mad at the manager?
I think the issue between 7 and 10 days has more to do with the deceitful nature of information coming from the Yankees more than the difference of 3 days.
You have to wonder if the same position is taken when Girardi speaks to the players as he does when it is the media. If it is just the media then it is no big deal.
But based on the lack of motivation and control of this team he has displayed the year, I would venture that it carries over into the locker room.
That is really the core of this issue. Girardi sees things like Republicans, blinded by the truth until everyone caves to his own myopic view.
You people need to stop looking for people to blame and realize that some of the players on team aren’t performing to their normal levels. Injuries are a huge part of why this team is where is at…. Its not Joe Clueless, It’s not moron cashman, It’s not Moron Hank…….
Injuries have cost this team at least more than 10 wins.
I wouldn’t assume the Yankees are getting Sabathia during the off season.
Maybe he wins a title with Milwaukee and resigns. Maybe he truly does love the West Coast and makes LA his home. You think the Giants would like to put him with Cain and Lincecum? You think the Mariners want to finish last? Felix, Bedard and CC?
The Mets have some dough too. The Tigers need pitching. WHite Sox. Maybe even the Indians get him back.
I wouldn’t assume he’s being fit for pinstripes.
Santana was at least someone you could control and was all about being in NY.
That ship hasn’t sailed because Cashman and these 2 young pitchers will be compared to and contrasted with Santana for years.
They have a really good basis to fire him if they want because of that. So don’t be naive and say that talk is done. Because it is far from it especially if this team finishes 3rd behind a 30 mill payroll team.
However, Sabathia will be better long term. The only reason the Mets made a good trade was that none of the prospects they gave up were even that good. It just happened to be the best the Mets could offer without giving up F-mart
Girardi says he’s **not hurt**.
Pete, we need an edit button! lol
Well you want your ace to eat innings so that the bullpen is not needed. Sabathia does that.. consistently going 8 or 9, while Santana’s norm is 6 innings with 7 here or there. Santana is good, but not even close to being as good as Sabathia at this point of there careers
Whiff: PLEASE keep politics out of the discussions here. There is just no reason for it.
“How is Santana better than sabathia at this point in their careers. Santana can hardly reach 93 mph anymore please stop.”
When Hughes or Kennedy can touch 93 once in a game, call me.
Stop making it seem like Hughes is some kind of stud. Joba is the stud. Hughes was expendable.
I watched BP yesterday, I didn’t notice anything unusual with Damon during the game either…..One thing I did take note of…The canyon size gap in his swing has grown even larger…..He’s strickly a mistake hitter now more than ever before….
Let’s have a toast to this line-up making Girardi look good tonight. We can do it now for you optimists or after the game for you doom n gloomers. Go Yanks!!
Whiff,
Girardi should be blinded by Liberals and Democrats. You know. Lie and deny til you can’t do it no more. Follow the John Edwards-Bill Clinton-Spitzer model.
“Well you want your ace to eat innings so that the bullpen is not needed. Sabathia does that.. consistently going 8 or 9, while Santana’s norm is 6 innings with 7 here or there”
Innings per start:
Sabathia 7.1
Santana 6.8
Why are you blaming Pete for Girardi’s assine moves? We just got swept — we need to win THIS game if for confidence’s sake alone.
Geez, what’s so hard to understand about why most sane fans/reporters are questioning this line up??
Where in my post did I even mention Hughes? Btw, Hughes was topping out at 95mph in the minors so I guess I would have to go back in time and give u a call.
“I watched BP yesterday, I didn’t notice anything unusual with Damon during the game either…..One thing I did take note of…The canyon size gap in his swing has grown even larger…..He’s strickly a mistake hitter now more than ever before….”
he’s only in the top 3 in the AL in hitting. But hes strictly a mistake hitter. Must be some bad pitchers. LOL.
Where do we find these rubes?
i smell a win here….
enjoy the game, ill be taping it and watching it about 9:30 so i can watch some olympics.
the visaroof commercial lasts about a half a second on tivo.
btw, pti said that bruce is doing the super bowl halftime show! too bad the giants won’t be able to hear him from the locker room!
Ugh, why does Girardi have to push back on Joba. Get the kid back to the team and let the doctors take a look. I’m going to have to change my id for this one.
Midas,
Don’t you have something you need to touch?
damon is just getting a day off. girardi doesnt have to explain every move with us. maybe damon will go in later in the game. who knows? he probably just wanted to give damon a day and try Christian in left. and yeah, melky is in center. if he doesnt play, how is he supposed to hit? and not that this is really related to baseball, but its melkys birthday, and if i were him, i would hate to sit on my birthday. girardi is human. he’ll make mistakes, and we dont know how this line up will do tonight until after the game.
“btw, pti said that bruce is doing the super bowl halftime show! too bad the giants won’t be able to hear him from the locker room!”
Doubt the Giants will have access to the locker room.
I’ll believe Hughes throws 95mph when I see it in Yankee stadium.
He’ll never be Santana. Reason #1 why we are a 3rd place team.
santana has been lifted for a ph even while pitching well this season too.
“I watched BP yesterday, I didn’t notice anything unusual with Damon during the game either…..One thing I did take note of…The canyon size gap in his swing has grown even larger…..He’s strickly a mistake hitter now more than ever before….”
He’s hitting .322 with a canyon sized gap in his swing? Do you live in a land with very very small canyons?
Girardi has to explain every move he makes. That’s part of his job!!!
It’s probably the most important!
You don’t get days off when you just lost 3 in a row and are in big danger of being blown out of the race.
“damon is just getting a day off.”
The whole team has 36 hours off in 2 days. Damon should be playing.
Whiff,
Girardi should be blinded by Liberals and Democrats. You know. Lie and deny til you can’t do it no more. Follow the John Edwards-Bill Clinton-Spitzer model.
After seeing today’s line up and his constant excuses for this team, he is already there. Problem is, he is doing it to his players and they are not responding.
My error, I was referring to Richie Sexton’s swing….I was trying to multi-fuction at work as well as staying up with all the intellects that dominate this site…..Thank you for pointing this out MATT
“I’ll believe Hughes throws 95mph when I see it in Yankee stadium.”
Don’t forget to adjust the Stadium gun 3 MPH downward. For him to hit 95 you need to see 98
Joe pushed Joba back because he and his staff want to watch Joba throw a bp session.
Damon had a lot of time off during his DL stint. Defending Girardi is a losing battle. He isn’t a good manager.
Girardi has no say as to when Joba plays Jeff. That’s in the hands of the medical staff and the Yankees.
He has no input in that matter. No manager has input on when a player can get back medically. Joe Torre didn’t when he was here. That’s not how it works in MLB in general and the Yankees in particular.
Why would Girardi not want Joba back? He would love him back. Its just not his call. Nor is it Joba’s.
That’s up to the doctors and the Yankees.
I can’t listen to the fools who think every Yankee prospect is going to be White Ford or Mickey Mantle.
The key is to win now and improve the team. They weren’t mortgaging any future by getting Santana or Haren or Sabathia. If they really thought Hughes and Kennedy and Melky were all stars I weep for our future.
I typical like to wait more than a couple of years before deciding on a young pitcher’s career. It might be naive of me to think in a such a way but who knows.
“I put a lineup up,†Girardi said. “Johnny’s played a lot.â€
‘And I promised Mrs Cabrera that little Melky would play tonight.’
Did Girardi miss the chance to manage a little league team or what?
Normally, I’d say don’t bring Joba back if we’re out of contention.
BUT, there is the IP issue thingy.
Besides, there’s a lot of baseball left.
“If they really thought Hughes and Kennedy and Melky were all stars I weep for our future.”
Still think Hughes may be an allstar one day. Kennedy and Melky???? Not so much.
The real place where Cashman messed up?
Not getting Schilling in 2004. That is where the wheels fell off.
He gets Schilling and we are 2 championships up.
When it’s all said and done, this year’s Yankees are more injury riddled, but last years team came back from 14 down. Arod had an MVP year, but he is more or less average this year IMO..I remember all the walk off winners he had last year.
I am not sure this years team can mount any kind of run to sneak into the wildcard. Too many lineup changes, guys having off years, and expectations with this young staff put too much pressure. Losing Wang was the worst loss of the year. That was alot to ask for, but Mussina is having a great year. Could’ve possibly had 2 20-game winners on this staff. I would really like Jeter and Arod to carry this team right now. Xnady has been a good addition.
Last thing, Girardi has made some very interesting moves this year, but he has had a ton of injuries to. I really thought this team would do small-ball more under him, but it never really flourished.
The only answer I know is to go hard after CC Sabathia!!
At this point in the season, unless a veteran player is hurt BAD, there isn’t any reason to “rest” him.
They have an afternoon game on Wednesday and an off day on Thursday. That’s plenty of time for a rest at this time of the year.
When you sit the leading hitter in the AL, who is hot right now, for Justin Christian, like Ricky Ricardo, you got some ’splaining to do on that one.
I’m not one to kill the lineup everyday. However, when you are freefalling and fighting for your playoff life, and playing one of the teams you are fighting with to make the playoffs, you gotta play your best players.
Unless somebody can tell me when Justin Christian surpassed Johnny Damon on the “one of the best players on the team” list, you can’t sit Damon tonight.
I actually thought Kennedy was projected to be a decent 4th/5th start? Where was he even considered a future all star?
Don’t worry everyone.
In the 6th inning when perkins is out of there after throwing 5 shutout innings against the Scranton Yankees lineup we’ll see Damon and Giambi.
i don’t mean to sound like a buzzkill but it sounds like a g*ddmaned circus in that clubhouse. is this the behavior of a team that is focused? i don’t think so.
and girardi sounds totally fed up. can you blame the man if he is? jeeez. i haven’t seen a beating like they took this weekend since rodney king. (pardon the reference.)
won’t give up on them, but its getting hard not to.
Just want to, you know, give some huge props to Sidney Ponson. Kind of where would we be without him? Nice pickup by Cashman.
GO YANKEES!
well put sj-
This lineup tonight is an embarrassment. Why not bench everyone if Perkins is so dominant?
Anybody know how long Frank Crawford and Longoria are out for the D’Rays?
A fractured wrist sounds pretty bad, but Crawford’s finger doesn’t seem like it will keep him out too long.
hear hear SJ44 -
Damon needs to play.
I hope after Christian grounds out twice, he’ll be replaced.
Even the giant Girardi homer SJ44 is trashing him. That says something.
Girardi doesn’t play his bench? Thats why Betemit, Sexon, and Christian are in the lineup 3 times a week?
I think he plays his bench TOO much.
And I also agreed with Arod trying for that steal of 3rd. I never got to chime in on that but I think he did the right thing. It didn’t work, so be it. He was trying to show some kind of leadership and get something started. You can’t hate him for that. And if he made it well wow.
Joba should definitely come back. It’s probably safe to say the division is out of reach, but the wild card is definitely still in play. Joba, Hughes, and maybe even Pavano, will boost the rotation for the stretch drive.
August 11th, 2008 at 7:53 pm
i don’t mean to sound like a buzzkill but it sounds like a g*ddmaned circus in that clubhouse. is this the behavior of a team that is focused? i don’t think so.
and girardi sounds totally fed up. can you blame the man if he is? jeeez. i haven’t seen a beating like they took this weekend since rodney king. (pardon the reference.)
Agree with the first sentence but not with the second. Girardi is fed up but at the fact he has no control or connection with this team. Right now this team has 5 coaches but NO manager. Until he learns how to manage, it will be a struggle for the Yankees.
SJ, ok good insight. I suppose the doctors told Joe that then. Still the emotional lift of Joba coming back would be great for the Yankees, juxtaposition that with Evan Longoria and the breaking down Ortiz.
Ironically, getting Joba back could be just the tonic to get his team out of the malaise of losing. Throwing cold water on that by pushing it back two days might just diffuse any potential excitement it could have had for the other players. Just my opinion.
christian is a pretty good player. i thibk he hit a 2 run double off perkins. thats why he could be starting
Nicklaus yeah the scranton yanks with ; king derek, the supposed best player in the game, bobby $16 mill., nady, Irod hall of fame, cano whom all you knuckleheads love, if that is not enough toioght so be it.
look at Minny’s lineup.. Nick punto hitting 2nd….
Replacing Christian after the game starts isn’t really the answer.
Why go that route? Just means you bring in a guy (Damon) cold off the bench. In a role he’s not used to having.
Who knows, perhaps Christian will go 4-5 today and everybody will say, “What a move”.
However, this is a veteran team, no? Who is going to play a bigger role in whatever chance this team has to go to the playoffs, Johnny Damon or Justin Christian?
At this point in the season, with all this team is up against right now, I don’t understand why you (Girardi) even have this issue? It makes no sense. Its creating a problem where one does not exist.
You play Damon everyday. He’s the catalyst of whatever offense this team can generate.
If he is tired, DH him.
Sit him? Sorry, just not on board with that move.
MLL,
And that ketchup on his sock would some of our finest gourmet tomato reduction, not that cheap Heinz stuff that they use in Boston.
Tank, his bench is the starters that he refuses to play. Christian, Betemit, and Sexson get more playing time than the good players
“Trashing him”, Deeks? A bit of an overstatement.
I’m not trashing him. Just disagree with him sitting Damon tonight.
If that constitutes “trashing” him, man we have some sensitive people in the house tonight.
I have a change of mind yeah it is all Girardis’ fault the Yankees are where they are.
It has nothing to do with this mess of a team of overpriced and underperforming former stars.
No the Jeter performance is a mirage he is still great, and the same for about 6 other guys..
Among excuses (not reasons) ready to be used on the post game show, ” Well obviously we had a long trip from California after a devastating loss and the guys are kind of tired. We’ll be fresh tomorrow “.
“johnny’s played a lot.” too funny. this is, after all, the YMCA where we need to make sure every guy gets equal opportunity to play.
i can not stand joe girardi. never could. and this is yet another reason why. his over-managing of the lineup has been one of the contributing factors to this team’s inability to find anything remotely resembling offensive consistency. i didn’t like the guy before he got the job and i can’t stand him now.
at this point, the joba discussion is almost moot. if this team continues to freefall, by the time he returns, it won’t make a lick of difference.
girardi’s ego would be amusing if it weren’t for the fact that he’s managing my favorite baseball team. i can’t wait until he’s shown the door. unfortunately, we’ve probably got another year or two before he overstays his welcome. they passed on torre for this? nice work, fellas.
I think Abreu has had a decent year, but what happened to his walks and OBP numbers?
Well here’s something else. Ponson has been very effective against Minny. Maybe Joe is thinking that if there is a game he’s willing to chance sitting Johnny this is it.
Despite everything not working for the Yankees I am an advocate of giving people a day off. I really don’t care that it’s close to the end of the season. Again, if I were to look historically at teams who have allowed the Yankees to breathe, Minny is one. These are men not horses. What do you gain if you chance playing a hot hand with a person who has had issues with his knees, and you’re on turf, why play that person three games, when you may jeopardize having him when you really might need him?
I think Girardi made the right move and I would rather see Johnny sit tonight, when we are putting out a pitcher who has been very successful against Minny, then see him run out there even for his bat. If you did that you’d have to sit Nady. Obviously he is healthier and Joe is counting on him to pick up the pieces.
Just trying to look at it from another point of view and make some sense out of it.
Damon is not getting younger and he breaks down a lot…a day off won’t hurt.
Hey isn’t everyone happy Nady is hitting behind Alex? Everyone has been screaming for it.
SJ has been right about this team all season long. They stink.
Can we please work the count against the pitcher tonight? See some pitches, make him hit the zone, and capitalize on his mistakes.
hey at least the leadoff batter still broke his bat
“Throwing cold water on that by pushing it back two days might just diffuse any potential excitement it could have had for the other players. Just my opinion.”
jeff, i can see a scenario where that might be a reasonable line of thought, but this team hasn’t looked “excited” to play baseball all year, whether joba was in the bullpen, rotation, or on the DL.
i see the la trip has carried over.
They sure are making him work.
way to take a pitch capt.
he fractured it on thursday.
Evan, I don’t know when it happened but Longoria is out with a fractured wrist.
Damn, make up your minds people. Is SJ head of the negative brigade or a giant homer?
Talk about a complete paradox in views, lol.
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think arod will try to do too much again and swing for the fences?
If you don’t think that Damon is pinch hitting by the 6th inning, you crazy.
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Broken wrist lands Rays HR leader Longoria on DL
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ST. PETERSBURG, Fla. — The Tampa Bay Rays placed rookie All-Star third baseman Evan Longoria on the 15-day disabled list Monday because of a right wrist fracture, the second major blow to the team’s surprising first-place run in as many days.
A runner is scoring position..
NYY 90-72 –
BoSux 88-74 -2
FoldRays 85-77 -5
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Book It, Dano !
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A runner in scoring position..
Too bad one of the leagues leading batters didn’t lead off there and get on base.
they are allergic to runners in socring postion. maybe an antihistamine would help?
Argh, if there had only been one out that would have scored a run. Even when they get a “situational” kind of hit, the out count is against them.
Frustrating.
Ponson time
Ok had to step away but what happened on Xavier’s AB, other than the Grim RISPReaper appeared and the Yankees failed to score.
Wow, we have made the fewest errors? That is shocking.
well things definitely are looking up in that the rays are without two big players. i can see that lead go down while they are gone for sure.
xavier reached for it, but hit a liner well to right
j- all the other team needs to do is put a runner on second, and the won’t get another hit.
My God, how long are they going to rag about that play? That didn’t cost us the game. Move on, Kay!
The Rays aren’t folding. They got way too much pitching. They have David Price coming up soon. And they got a big lead. No chance.
Laura, I was just thinking that… Everything else has been so imperfect, how could their defense be so flawless?
i thought jeter thew the ball away. LOL
well, nady was almost clutch…?? At least arod wasn’t trying to do too much…
That was fairly awesome.
HOLY CRAP!
I mean, HOLY CAP!!!
Hope that we win so I can watch BBT and watch for that as a web gem…
wow … web gem for sure
say what you will about michael kay, and lord knows you will, but he’s started the broadcast questioning the reason behind benching damon tonight and he laid into cano for the inexcusable play yesterday. having mlb extra innings, it’s rare to see any candidness on any local broadcasts, let alone one that’s on a network owned by the team.
nice play by the Captain
Say what you want about Ponson, he has that competitive fire that you like to see from pitchers. He may want a drink every now and then, but I think he wants to win too.
That play may not have lost us the game, but it showed the apathy on a couple of player’s parts…
We have made little errors because we don’t get to many balls.
lol way to keep your eye on the ball richie.. youre lucky you got that
Incredible play by Jeter
Good play.
Jeter may not be the “best” Shortstop but he’s certaily been a solid SS for the Yankees, especially this year.
You could argue that he could have made some of the tougher plays throughout the year, but you can argue that for any player (no matter how proficient).
The point is that he makes the plays he should make and once in a while he’ll flash a great play.
So Abreu is wall shy and the Big Sexy is ball shy?
Longoria is out…fractured wrist. Interesting development, not that we are going to surpass the rays.
o/t –
How the heck can they build an open air stadium in Minnesota? Do they have no clue whatsoever?
Wow, Kay is on Cano’s case tonight. Did Cano steal his dog?
wow they are really getting on cano. LOL
Kay is KILLING Cano right now…
Ponson is really the #3 starter??
No wonder why we stink.
ROBBY!
Now maybe Michael Kay can back off for a second.
hm…. man on third, no on out…. maybe we’ll score
Is it me or does the Big Sexy walk his fair share of the time?
What is Kay talking about I’ve seen Garret Anderson lollygag down the line many times.
“hm…. man on third, no on out…. maybe we’ll score”
The operative word is “maybe”.
Pudge is showing how it should be done.
Just hit it to the outfield! Plate the run.
Ut oh… RISP…. close your eyes and pray
Maybe Girardi or Pena or Meachum should be getting on Cano daily.
Maybe he wouldn’t have an OBP of .300 which is flat out embarrassing.
maybe now turns to probably not.
Unbelievable.
Well he at least tried to hit it to the outfield…
“What is Kay talking about I’ve seen Garret Anderson lollygag down the line many times.”
My problem with him ragging on Cano is that he’s acting like Cano just started doing that today. Cano never runs hard out of the box. Kay just noticed now?
“How the heck can they build an open air stadium in Minnesota? Do they have no clue whatsoever?”
Pretty much. Carl Pohlad even managed to get the city to pay for such cluelessness. Thats genius.
It snows here up till and including May some years.
if they dont score with first and third no outs, im turning it.
0-2 and only the second inning.
right on cue
can we at least get 1 run from this? Please?
and there goes that.
Other than that, good game, huh?
That was so not helpful.
I don’t get it. I absolutely don’t get it. Why in hell would you hit the ball on the ground?
I don’t get it.
olympics time. someone tell me why melky plays
LOL!
If that wasn’t automatic and obvious.
Done.
LOL PUDGE LOL
melky you worthless pile of poop… where the F id damon??!?!?!
that is the Yankee season in a nutshell.
THEY JUST SUCK…
god, what melky is doing with a yankee uniform??
that’s ridiculous
0-3 and wonderful hitting by the ever popular, great center fielder, the best CF in the game Melky Cabrera.
Professional hitters my ass.
Is it possible for me to say “I told you so” while watching a game on GameDay when Melky swings at the first-pitch and hits into a DP? This guy is not a major leaguer.
that melky sure can hit…he sees 1 pitch and grounds into a double play. Keep in min he’s playing instead of damon
You may want to put the Olympics on. It’s more cheerful.
Kay is PISSED. Wonder if someone higher up gave him the go ahead to vent his frustration?
Someone needs to lay into this team. Where the hell is Hank?
Melky’s got his head up his butt. That ball was low; he had no chance to elevate it.
It’s just unreal. Girardi looks like he wants to throw up. I can’t blame him.
Holy…
This just funny
I might flip over to A&E and watch Intervention. Watching this team makes me feel like I need one.
Obviously none of us want to see any player from another team get hurt (ok, maybe there are a couple) but the injury bug is catching up to the Sox, Rays, and Minny…all of the teams we need to get by to get to the postseason.
The Sox have issues with Ortiz, Lowell, and Wake plus ineffectiveness from the bullpen as a whole, Buchholz, and Red Sox nation is realizing Ellsbury isn’t as good as he apppeared to be last year.
Rays lost Crawford, Longoria, and Bartlett has some issues. While their bullpen has been great the starting rotation has been pretty well used. They have pitched a fair share of innings and probably will tire sooner or later.
Minny is without the pesky Casilla, Cuddyer and have the most errors in the league. Gomez failed as a leadoff man and Young is not having the year he was expected to.
Now we have the Yankees who have been ransacked with injuries the entire year. Our bullpen was one of the best in the league for a good amount of time and hopefully is just suffering a hiccup right now.
The rotation has been in shambles since June but perhaps Hughes, Joba, and dare I say Pavano can help stabilize it down the stretch. On top of that we have the least errors in the league so our defense is doing its job.
If Girardi can just get the offense to put together some better at bats and take some walks we can score some more runs. 4GB is not impossible but things need to start changing now…ok right after Melky’s inning-ending DP, unbelievable.
I’m done cheering for this team, somebody let me know when Smelky is off the team……………………..
This team is an absolute joke.
Are you guys happy now? Are you happy?
Girardi caves in and plays Melky, and there you go, he killed a tremendous chance to score with another horrible first pitch GIDP.
1st and 3rd, no outs, no runs. AGAIN. This is nothing new. This team is a freaking joke.
You can’t get those runs in, you suck. Period. You don’t deserve to make the playoffs if you can’t score in those spots. This team is not entitled to anything, they have to earn it, and they haven’t, but that’s alright to them, they still have their $15 million paychecks!
base hit, walk, choke choke…..
Well at least the Yankees offense is consistent.
Just a microcosm of the way that things have been going lately. Maybe they will be able to cash in on further opportunities, but struggling or not, when you have runners on the corners and ZERO out, you absolutely have to score one run.
maybe its time to send melky down to triple a.
Ugh @ Melky. You’ve got to be kidding me. A pitcher could have done better. I could name 10 pitchers off the top of my head I’d rather have had at bat there.
I like Melky, he’s a good kid, but he’s now an offensive black hole for whatever reason, and this surpassed ridiculous some time ago and is now into downright insane. Meanwhile Damon is on the bench……..
Someone please explain to me why Cabrera is still playing he is worthless, automatic is an understatement he stinks
Melky’s just not that upset about the double play.
Typical.
This is depressing. I don’t have an answer. hit and run? suicide squeeze? What is there left to try to do that hasn’t already been attempted? We can’t bench everyone. But Melky and Cano are playing themselves out of ‘09
Turkey,
That’s exactly what I’m watching right now. It is so much better than the Yankees.
The more I see Melky and IPK play the more I want Cashman fired for not trading them and Hughes.
i’m honestly laughing at this…it’s like the script has been written and they have no chance to veer from it
I just don’t get it at all. Melky was hitting well the first few weeks of the season. He can’t have just forgotten what he was doing to hit like that, can he?
Well thats unfortunate but we beat this guy at the stadium a couple weeks ago and we still seem to be hitting him well so far. There is a good chance they’ll score some runs today.
When you play guys like Melky who should not be sniffing the major leagues, they ALWAYS come up in key spots and KILL you. This is where bad managing affects you. You say it means nothing, but it does. You put the wrong players in, and the ones who can’t succeed, and you lose.
This is do or die time. THIS IS IT! You can’t bench your best hitter and leadoff guy in favor of AAA player Melky Cabrera!
Send Melky to AAA. No excuse. He is awful. If you have at bats like that with RISP, you are not major league quality. 1st pitch swinging and a GIDP. Melky has no accountability, no focus, no clue. Send him down, NOW, or this team will suffer.
Why Why Why is he in the lineup against a LHP?
Girardi should have squeezed there… decent speed at 3B, left pitcher/right batter.. and a guy who can’t hit!
This is a hard team to root for sometimes.
Should we play the “men left on base” drinking game tonight?
this is sad.
right now i EXPECT the yankees to fail when they have runners in scoring position, and of corse, it happens twice in 2 innings
the only way the yankees will score a run gaurenteed is if they hit a homerun. or the other team walks 5 guys in a row.
i hope sidney is reading those drunk driving advertisements behind home plate!
Joe G. is a patient guy … I would have gone Paul O’Neil in the dugout.
You all are on melky and rightfully so but did you miss pudges pop up???
play molina!!!
People, relax. They’re showcasing Melky. He and Kennedy are going to be packaged for a very nice player*, the wheels are already in motion.
(* that player may only arrive in bobblehead form but is said to be in ‘like new’ condition)
Melky Cabrera is what happens when people try to convince themselves defense is more important than offense,
Girardi needs his friggin head examined for playing Melky & sitting Damon…………
I know it’s out of the question, but how could Austin Jackson be worse than Melky right now?
romine
August 11th, 2008 at 8:39 pm
Well thats unfortunate but we beat this guy at the stadium a couple weeks ago and we still seem to be hitting him well so far. There is a good chance they’ll score some runs toda
That was before the Yankees became scared to run around the bases and now just use the easy half speed to first, GIDP, Popup, fly out….
Sure way to beat the Yankees, give up a lead off double. The guy will never move from 2nd.
cmon Sir Sid
It happens game in and game out. Why would you expect anything different? Do you think this team is just going to magically turn it on and improve?
LOL PUDGE LOL
we just gave up a homerun to a light hitting shortstop. i think im going to throw-up
wow
Adam Everett?
Are you f’n kidding me?
Wow. It can’t get any more official than this. The season is done with.
The packers are showing more energy in a stupid pre-season game than this team.
Nice effort by Christian. Next time find the wall and know where you are at.
Good job Joe! You are AL Manager of the year.
“Are you guys happy now? Are you happy? Girardi caves in and plays Melky, and there you go, he killed a tremendous chance to score with another horrible first pitch GIDP.”
Why would we be happy? We’re Yankees fans, remember? We want the team to do well.
Look, you guys know the story on artificial turf. It’s hard on the joints. As brittle as Damon is, I can understand putting 24 yrs old Melky out there instead of old man Damon.
That being said, that was a horrible, horrible, horrible AB by Melky. I’m beginning to think that he simply can’t help himself. I mean, you know that Long, Girardi or someone has talked to him about this…yet he keeps making the wrong choices. It must be some sort of lack of self control.
angel – melky’s early season was an aberration. if you look at his career numbers, this is about what he is: not a very good hitter. he’s performed below expectations, to be sure, but that speaks more to expectations being too high than it does to his ability at the plate, which is marginal, at best.
this offense is bad. i mean laughably bad. you can examine the numbers any way you like, but anyone who watches this team day in and day out can say with absolute certainty these guys look either lost or lifeless up there. it’s one failure after another. it’s got to be frustrating for those guys. lord knows it’s frustrating to watch.
Atta boy, Sid. Serve one up to the .210 hitter!
I’m sorry … who was that???
Yeah, I was kind of expecting that.
Oh thats great. Not only did Ponson give up a 2 run HR but now christian is hurt. Pretty soon Cashman will need to drive through the south bronx to find new players.
Now time for the offense to pick up Sidney.
**This just in!**
Yankees suck.
Melky = Automatic Out.
Sexon = Automatic Out.
Pudge = Boardering on Automatic Out.
Good Teams = Minimizing outs.
Hate Kennedy all you want, hate Hughes all you want. Santana would be doing no better than he has in a Yankees uniform. He has automatic outs in his line-up, they play the easiest teams in baseball. Yankees play difficult teams and have automatic outs in their line-ups, they don’t win because of it.
Can we score 2 or more runs?
is this team really this bad.it’s awful to watch , but i can’t stop
Terry- Blackjack hit better at Tampa than he did at Charleston last year. I’d play him as well.
A road trip where they needed to win 6 of 10 is looking like a 3 – 7 fiasco.
Sydney Ponson is not an ace?
EVERITT HITTING 212 NOW WITH 2 HR AND 12 RBI’S.
“That being said, that was a horrible, horrible, horrible AB by Melky. I’m beginning to think that he simply can’t help himself.”
like a disorder? um, no. not unless you consider youth, ignorance and arrogance to be a disorder.
If Christian can bunt successfully he should be able to get to first base.
sidney threw 8 straight fastballs to their SS, and wham, he hits one out
“Send Melky to AAA. No excuse. He is awful.”
We have no replacement. Damon can’t play CF everyday. In fact, I don’t think Damon should ever be out in CF. Gardner isn’t the answer; he’s a worse hitter than Melky. Christian? I’m not sold on him either.
nice job Ponson serving up Everett’s 2nd homer….of the season.
if anyone still has a good feeling about this, you need to quite watching the movie Cast Away and come back to reality….the boat is not coming for the Yankees
Awful, awful news:
Yanks AAA manager Dave Miley’s 17 year-old son died in a car accident. No official word or statement from the Yankees yet. Reported on Chad’s Scranton blog.
It’s funny how things work. I remember in 2005 everyone, including myself, thought the 2006 season was going to be the season that we won 100+ games because of our pitching which supposedly got better, and our hitting was going to be unbelievable, and what happened? Nothing. Than in 2006, we thought 2007 was going to be the year where we would sweep every series cause of all of our great players, than what happened? Nothing. And in 2007 we thought this year was going to be great with Kennedy and Hughes winning a combined 50 games, what happened? Not one win. It’s unbelievable how things work, isn’t it? We all think next year is going to be the year, with Joba, Hughes, and Kennedy, but wasn’t this year suppose to be their year? What makes anyone think it’s be any different next year?
That being said, we have had plenty of injuries, but at the same time, even with our current roster, we are better than this. ARod is better than a .250hitter with RISP, and so is Giambi, but we are doing terribly.
Well I certainly wasn’t expecing .300 hitting out of him. So I dont know that my expectations were all that unrealistic. But he just seemed much better situationally up until lately. Able to come through once every so often.
But he just looks undisciplined and like he doesn’t have a plan when he goes up there. I doubt he goes up there deciding to make an out, but he doesn’t seem to adjust from AB to AB depending on the situation anymore.
Maybe I’m remembering wrong though. Thats possible.
way to show some fight after a homerun. weak groundouts.
“Do you think this team is just going to magically turn it on and improve?”
it seems like that’s what a lot of people expect. but when you’ve watched a team played a certain way for 3/4 of a season, it’s tough to imagine things changing much.
oh well. maybe missing the playoffs is just what this organization needs. it looks like that’s exactly what it’s going to get.
this two-pitchs outs make-me sick
I’d say send in the clowns, but Melky’s already on the field.
This is truly ridiculous. I can’t imagine there’s any team in baseball whose offense is more frustrating to watch than this one.
*expecting..argh
Act 2008 Scene 56
Right after the Yankees allow a shaky pitcher to escape a couple of jams in the first couple of innings the dreaded opposing pitcher then settles down to start mowing down the hitters.
Does Christian wear ballet slippers when he plays? It seems like he slips when trying to get out of the box a lot. Plus that big blunder trying to steal second a few weeks ago and falling flat on his face.
Does he know he is allowed to wear spikes?
oh, tivo delayed, come on,christian could’ve had that.
Ok, I am going back to what I said two weeks ago. 85 wins.
At that time someone said they would have to go something like 25-26. If they achieve that it will be a success.
This team is soooooooooo lost. No fire, no desire, just old guys collecting paychecks.
Simply sad. The Yankees have officially returned to the bad teams of the late 80’s.
I miss Joe Torre
That’s precious. “All the variables” Ah, so, so good. Indeed, that one or two plays all year where the outcome is different because of “positioning”, that absolutely invalidates the research and statistics on thousands and thousands of plays.
one step back this year, two steps forward next (hopefully)
Back to work Sidney
Jeter so far with 2 impressive BA’.. After all he has seen a total of 3 pitches with his 2 weak infield outs…
again the yare losing because Damon is not playing…. Really he was not playing yesterday in the 6th or 7th when he sruck out with a man on 3rd with 1 out…
hell with blaming the players it is that Damon is not playing…Kay is a broken record he is a tupid broken record…
yanks pounding the ball all around the infield…. Jeter I predict will see about 7 pitches for the game, he might actually be counseling Cano and melky on patience at the plate…
Cano OBP up to 301, he is on fire………
Great, way to let the guy’s pitch count get manageable aagain. Theres some winning baseball. GJ.
angel – i wasn’t referencing your specific expectations for melky.
check his career numbers. he is what he is. not very good offensively.
and he seems as though he doesn’t have a plan or adjust because he doesn’t. same reason he slides headfirst into 1B after being told numerous times not to. kid doesn’t listen or doesn’t care. no excuse for either.
Heineken keeps cranking out good commercials.
Melky’s playing because of his birthday. Damon will be playing the rest of the series with Melky on the bench.
What’s even worse than their mediocrity is that this team is soooo not fun to watch.
I like how Flaherty & Kay are questioning Girardi’s dumb moves. Benching Damon & Girardi when lefties are hitting .330 off Perkins.
I’m so sorry I EVER thought Girardi would be a good manager for the Yanks.
Who do we have to pay to get them to stop airing those Jeter Edge commercials?
Maybe Melky has reverse Chuck Knoblauch syndrome? He can play defense but can’t touch a baseball (maybe he can hit Olbermann’s mom)
I so called Rodriguez getting out and Melky’s double play.
***QUESTION ***
What does everyone think of Girardi’s decisions on the line-ups, pitching decisions and as a coach in general now that we are more than half way done with the season????
(We all know players are hurt, causing him to make certain choices… those things were unavoidable… injuries can’t be helped)
Well, Pudge’s trying to learn a new pitching staff, but he’s not considered a the best ball-caller around the league.
He still has time, but he’s GOT to get his CERA below 5.00
According to the stats, he’s got a CERA over 8.00 while he’s been with the Yankees.
Molina, by contrast has a CERA of 3.60; that’s among the best in the league and starting AL catchers all have higher CERA’s (though, of course, they’ve caught more innings.
No wonder Pettite and Moose prefer Jose.
** oops, meant Giambi**
Predictions on the final score?
5-1 Twins.
I know. I’m just rather baffled. His career number aren’t amazing I know, but I just recall him being, not necessarily clutch all the time, but certainly looking less consistently clueless at the plate than he’s looked in the last three months.
Best way to show all games matter, sitting the AL leader in average. I can’t believe it wasnt that obvious to me. Did he say he has played a lot? How bout the 3 weeks he was on the DL, and the half season he has DHed?
New Lyrics from “On the Road Again”
On the road again
In Minnesota and bout to get beat again
The life we love is losing with my friends
And I can’t wait to get on the road again
On the road again
Losing more than we’ve ever been
Seeing dumb plays that I’ll likely see again
And I can’t wait to get on the road again
yankees have arod cano and nady coming up. the key is if they can each hit homeruns. as we know the yanks dont score on anything else.
The actual missing link on this team is Jorge. If he were healthy and with the team, the REAL captain would have called this team down. He’s done it before and it’s worked. Jeter is the captain on paper. He disintegrated a few years ago. He prefers to joke around with opposing players during games, something Jorge has never been seen doing.
“What does everyone think of Girardi’s decisions on the line-ups, pitching decisions and as a coach in general now that we are more than half way done with the season????”
I’m not in love with Girardi so far, but I’m not convinced that Mattingly would have done a better job. Actually, I would have LOVED for them to go with Bowa. That would have been an inspired choice.
I’m really just muddling through the thoughts in my head out loud, lol. Not thinking that you were specific about just me and my expectations or anything.
I’m sorry to dwell, but that AB by Melky was HORRIBLE. All he needed to do was wait for a pitch he could lift in the air. What does he do? Swing at the first pitch. A pitch that was impossible for him to lift. I was a HUGE Melky fan when he came up, but he has really been embarassing himself and his team out there. Just no plate discipline and no baseball “smarts” whatsoever! He really needs to be sent down, but they have no better options to play Center. Just painful to watch. I don’t know how Girardi controls himself. I’m a pretty patient guy, and I think I would have strangled Melky when he hit the dugout.
I want to rest Girardi for a few days, get some fresh managers on the bench.
sfill,
the consensus around here is that we’re not too impressed with ‘by the numbers Joe’…but rumor has it that Melky, Betemit, and opposing teams like him a whole lot,
Stuart,
Kay may be a broken record but, there is no excuse, none, to sit the leading hitter in the AL tonight.
This team is offensively challenged enough as it is. To sit Damon tonight makes no sense.
At this point though, it seems pointless to debate about it. This team looks like they have thrown in the towel on the season. No sense getting upset about it anymore.
When you hit into 11 first pitch DP’s, which they have done on this roadtrip, it doesn’t seem to me these guys are putting up much of a fight any longer.
The lack of hitting with RISP? At this point, its in every one of their heads and that only makes them worse at it. Its almost comical (in a sadistic way) to see how they find new ways to fail with RISP.
Just bad year all around from top to bottom for this organization. Seems to be getting worse by the day.
Is it possible that the nail in the ‘08 coffin was driven home by Adam Everett, versus Sidney Ponson, with a home run just eluding Justin Christian. $1 billion to anyone who had this scenario in the April office pool.
Nice job Sir Sid
Can this offense stop being offensive and get something going?
Board is way too negative tonight. Good night, all.
Not to worry, my sources at the commissioner’s office tell me that Cashman is in the final stages of negotiations to schedule more games against the Mariners and Astros in September.
>>>Does Christian wear ballet slippers when he plays? It seems like he slips when trying to get out of the box a lot. Plus that big blunder trying to steal second a few weeks ago and falling flat on his face.
I think his feet are so damn quick that he doesn’t give them enough time on the ground to plant. Really.
cant believe you guys are calling it over at 2-0
not really much can be said about this team that hasn’t been said already. they stink.
flat out they stink.
barring some miracle (which could happen since its the last year in the stadium) its time to look for next year.
“The actual missing link on this team is Jorge. If he were healthy and with the team, the REAL captain would have called this team down. He’s done it before and it’s worked. Jeter is the captain on paper. He disintegrated a few years ago. He prefers to joke around with opposing players during games, something Jorge has never been seen doing.”
Fans will want your head for saying this about precious Jeter, but you are correct!
“His career number aren’t amazing I know, but I just recall him being, not necessarily clutch all the time, but certainly looking less consistently clueless at the plate than he’s looked in the last three months.”
could be a confidence thing, could be anything. when you’re not a great hitter to begin with, you don’t really have anything to build from or go back to. you hear about a lot of hitters trying to get themselves back to what they were doing “when (insert accomplishment or success here).” what’s melky going to look for? to get himself back to being that .280 slap hitter he was? what he has to go on is the advice of his coaches and fellow teammates, and it’s pretty clear he doesn’t bother to heed that. the kid looks lost because he IS lost.
Sheffield is complaining about his situation in Detroit. Doesn’t want to dh.
What the hell…Arod squaring?
sfill,
GIRARDI stinks. His decisions sometimes border on the ridiculous. One that sticks out is when he decided to walk Travis Hafner (yeah, slumping Travis Hafner) to load the bases for rookie Orlendorf, so that the kid who was pitching wild to begin with, can face Victor Martinez (who was on a hot streak) with the game on the line…you can guess what happened next if you don’t recall that game.
There are many more…Girardi stinks!
we got the freaking a-rod curse..
Nice one, Nick. Tell him not to forget San Diego!
Leadoff runner on. Let’s see which base he’ll be left stranded.
need a Nady hr right here
It’s getting to the point where every time the yankees get guys on base, I know they are going to hit into a double play, and whenever there’s a guy on third with less than 2 outs, I know they won’t get him in.
Girardi should have looked at thursday when everybody has a day off, instead of resting his best hitters when they need a win desparately. Playing righties vs lefties only works if the righties are good hitters, someone should let girardi know that.
“cant believe you guys are calling it over at 2-0″
Your first time here?
Heck I’ve seen people here call it over with the Yankees leading in games!
Nady is rapidly and unfortunately becoming a Yankee.
“Sheffield is complaining about his situation in Detroit. Doesn’t want to dh.”
Let him keep complaining. DET wants to dump him anyway. They’ll just do it sooner rather than later.
Laura
I’ve gotta agree with you…as big a fan as i am of mattingly i’m not sure he would have done well, especially considering his personal issues and the fact he finally admitted he wouldn’t have been a good choice.
i really thought we’d see better of Girardi, but he is in a tough position since a few of the players he is the coach of, he actually played with and they are better than him…not to mention all the other Diva’s that play on this team. You can’t say anything to the Diva’s
Red Sox fan here, just wondering what some of you yankee fans think about the recent injuries to the Rays. With Longoria out for at least 2 to 3 weeks and Crawford out for about the same do you think the Sox and/or Yanks can play consistently enough to make up some games? The Rays have yet to be really tested with injuries. We’re getting to the point where it’s now or never.
I think this opens the door for the red sox…but only slightly. It’ll be more on the Sox and their ability to consistently win in order to close the gap. These injuries will slow the Rays, but won’t send them into a slump, their pitching is simply too deep and too talented.
Any idea on the potential impact Rocco will have on the team? I’m a die hard sox fan, but it was nice to see him back last night, gotta feel for the guy.
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So how many GIDP’s do we have so far in this game?
Time for Robby to hit one out…
Other teams would love to have Melky
…at-bat against them with runners in scoring position. Girardi is going what he has to do honestly. The players aren’t motivated, the same team who wasn’t motivated last season. The same team that trots out Automatic Outs in the line-up every single day and is amazed with Rally Killing groundouts and ZERO-effort at-bats.
im usually on the yankees.scout.com forms but i do visit this blog every day just didnt really look at the comment section till recently
True, but I think i’d happily take the .280 hitter slap hitter over THIS.
He should have sat Cano tonight to send a message that loafers will not be tolerated. Instead he sits a guy because he tried to run through a wall to make a catch. Yeah, that’s the right message to the team…
ARD August 11th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
cant believe you guys are calling it over at 2-0
Welcome to the Lohud Yankees blog.
Leyland told Sheffield before he signed to be a Tiger you’re the DH and if you don’t like it take your act elsewhere- not exactly in those words!
SJ44,
bingo. those still expecting the miracle yankee turnaround might want to inform the players that there are still 40+ games remaining to be played. these guys look absolutely listless out there. you look at the comments here and then watch this team, it would appear that the fans care far more about the outcome than the players, which is too bad, but probably more commonplace than any of us want to admit.
or not
“Board is way too negative tonight”
Not to defend the negative, but how in the world can we be expected to think positively after what we’ve seen from this team? I mean, we can only take so much. I’ve been trying to stay positive, but it’s a struggle.
I know we’re facing Glen Perkins, but I have little doubt that the late Marlon Perkins (of Wild Kingdom fame) could have shut down this offense.
Hey Yankees the season is on the line.. Dont ya think you would try and work every abat and to get ur pitch.. Guess you dont want to think Cano, cause you are just soo cool with ur brother Cabrera and it doesnt matter what happens because we can just drink our fabolous lives away in NYC with all the other celebs..
You know what they say… leadoff walks always come around to score
Except for the Yankees
Yankee Trader
But everyone is out to get him, don’t you know that?
Sheff is a joke, to think we would have had Vlad if not for George.
kind of funny, people killed torre for being so docile, and here’s fiery joe girardi, the Master Motivator, watching his team cash out on a season with more than 40 games remaining.
oh, sweet irony.
Jeter SS
Damon LF
ARod 3B
Abreu RF
Nady 1B
Giambi DH
Rodriguez C
Cano 2B
Cabrera CF
or
Damon
Jeter
Arod
Nady
Abreu
Giambi
Cano
Rodriguez
Cabrera
I like the first one better, but both as good and solid lineups as far as protection goes.
nice the usual goose eggs on the scoreboard
At least the Big Sexy didn’t strike out.
See, I’m being positive. Where’s my prize?
GIRARDI IS AN IDIOT! “I PUT THE LINEUP UP”. DAMON SITS, GIAMBI SITS AND SURE WE HAVE URGENCY TO WIN EVERY GAME. BYE BYE GIRADI. IDIOT.
I guess its this funny thing called winning. If you don’t win games, its kinda hard for fans to have any confidence in the team.
Unless of course, folks thinks going 5-10 in the last 15 games is such a grand feat.
Its pretty hard for folks to be “perky” about what we have seen on this roadtrip. As well as the last home stand for that matter.
Important games each night and this team hasn’t responded one bit.
You can’t expects fans to cheer .100 BA with RISP for 10 and 15 game streches, nightly GIDP’s that grow by the game, and pitchers giving up HR’s to .209 hitters.
We are all Yankee fans in here. Except the trolls, that is.
Its just not that much fun watching your team get its butt kicked on a nightly basis.
**sigh**
“True, but I think i’d happily take the .280 hitter slap hitter over THIS.”
as would i. i’m sure melky would love to get back to being at least marginal offensively.
this team is no fun to watch. everybody looks lifeless and they keep finding new ways to fail.
How can this offense be THIS awful? It’s utterly mind boggling. And they cant even use the age old excuse about how it’s an avg lefty they’ve never seen before. They’ve killed this guy in the past! Then tonight they have him on the ropes in the 1st and 2nd inning, do nothing with it, and now are making him look like Sandy Koufax. Un f’n believable.
Wow, Sexson bailed the Yanks out from getting the side K’d by Glen Perkins. You know things are going bad then…
Did arod try too much again by taking a walk? Should try to homer!
women’s volleyball on nbc for anyone who wants to be cheered up.
“kind of funny, people killed torre for being so docile, and here’s fiery joe girardi, the Master Motivator, watching his team cash out on a season with more than 40 games remaining.”
Maybe this team isn’t structured for his type of management style. Maybe their egos and psyches work better with Torre’s style of management. We haven’t really looked at that (Girardi being the manager) as a possible cause for the Yankees crappy play. It could be the culprit.
“He should have sat Cano tonight to send a message that loafers will not be tolerated. Instead he sits a guy because he tried to run through a wall to make a catch. Yeah, that’s the right message to the team”
Excellent point. Those are the type of things I find most disappointing about Girardi. I was thrilled when he got the job. Unfortunately, he hasn’t been the smart and tough guy I expected. I’m hoping he’ll do better in time. It’s likely that he’s treading lightly since he’s so young and it’s a very veteran team.
Red Sox Fan-
With the remaining schedules of the contenders, Minnesota followed by the White Sox have the easiest schedules and think the wild card will come from the central. Yankees have the worst remaining schedule, in terms of away games and how we have played against the remaining teams.
So INHO you’ll have to win the East to get to the playoffs.
No, Baldelli has chronic fatigue syndrome, and will not be a major factor,
Damon is brittle, when he breaks down everyone would kill Girardi for not resting him. This team has too many flaws to get into micromanaging Girardi resting a guy.
Ponson is the number 3 starter. He might be #2 if they have to give Pettitte a rest. No one knows who the #5 starter is. This is not how it was mapped out in the spring.
They have to get everyone healthy and try again next year.
Sexson has been doing better lately hes making contact with the ball taking walks had that 2 hit game in texas i really think hes gonna break out soon ive def seen improvement from seattle to here
“I’m done. this team is done too.”
Philadelphia Eagles fans would be proud of statements like this.
How is Girardi’s over managing decisions working out tonight?
The guy is a regular Casey Stengel.
So far, Ponson is doing his job. The offense is not. I remember the good ‘ol days when it was the other way around.
Ponson pitching well.
Get to work bats
laura – to not examine how a manager contributes to his team’s play is being willfully ignorant, in my opinion. yes, strategy plays a smaller role in the AL, but girardi is – at the very LEAST – partially responsible for both the team he puts on the field and the way they perform out there.
RSM- i will never understand the joe girardi hype. he took a bad florida team and made them mediocre. whoopee! what this guy did to earn this job is beyond me.
LOL PUDGE LOL
Funny how kasey is now posting daily. Guess he figures its safe with them being 9 games out. He can now complain and shout anti Yank stuff.
Who on this team does anyone want to see at the plate in a critical situation? I’m at a loss to come up with a name. Doesn’t that say it all?
the announcers are trashing the team.
I’m going to say this again Kevin Long deserves a pink slip
For everyone questioning the decision to sit Damon, is everyone forgetting how fragile he is? While I think he should DH instead of missing the whole game, is this no different than what Giradi has been doing all season; keeping guys fresh? Plus didn’t Damon take a nasty crash this weekend?
The one easy out in the Twins lineup hits a two run homer, his 2nd homer of the season, and 37th of his 8 year career.
That’s one of the reasons why we are likely to lose another game and this series.
“cant believe you guys are calling it over at 2-0″
What have you seen up til now that would make you think otherwise?
What have you seen since the All Star break that would make you think otherwise?
Kasey,
Losing I can handle. I’m a big boy and I realize my team can’t win every year. I knew this was going to be a transition year and I knew a lot had to go right for them to win a title this season.
What I can’t handle? Cashing out with 40 games left. Right now, at least by the looks of it, this team is in full cash out mode.
Sorry but, when I see a guy who doesn’t cash out (Damon) on the bench in a game the Yankees have to win, that doesn’t make me happy.
Especially when I see guys in that lineup who have played like crap for much of the season in there everyday.
At some point, when do the players possess some pride and not cash out with this many games remaining on the schedule?
This isn’t football. Fiery speeches by managers/coaches don’t matter too much.
Jim Leyland yells at his team all the time. So does Tony LaRussa. How’s that working out for them? Their teams are going nowhere this year.
Bottom line, players play and its on the players on this team to at least freaking compete.
Say what you will about Sidney Ponson but, guess what? He is COMPETING out there. I give him props for that.
If more guys on the team competed every night like he has since he has been here, they wouldn’t look so awful.
Something isn’t right with team. A stink, stench or whatever you want to call it but, something isn’t right.
They are going to have to figure out what it is in the off-season and rid themselves of it.
Geez, can anyone here remember the last time we had to deal with a mediocre Yankee team in August? Was it ‘93?
Is it too early to pinch hit Damon for Christian?
“Who on this team does anyone want to see at the plate in a critical situation? I’m at a loss to come up with a name. Doesn’t that say it all?”
Maybe the guy hitting for the best average in the offense-driven American League? Oh right, that guy’s on our team. So maybe Damon???
Lefties are hitting .338 off Glen Perkins and we sit our two best??
Girardi has worn out his welcome here.
Good Lord, Melky even makes Coco Crisp look dangerous by comparison.
This game is just flying by. The Yankees are just mailing it in here.
I miss Damon
“Who on this team does anyone want to see at the plate in a critical situation? I’m at a loss to come up with a name. Doesn’t that say it all?”
nady
abreu
damon
molina
sure, they’ve all failed recently, but, for the most part, i expect those guys to get a runner in from third with less than two outs.
jonathan – i’m posting more because they’re on a west coast road trip. the games happen to coincide with my free time: evenings. ain’t rocket science.
Even Kay and Flaherty sound like they want to kill themselves watching this game…
“”"”“cant believe you guys are calling it over at 2-0″
What have you seen up til now that would make you think otherwise?
What have you seen since the All Star break that would make you think otherwise?”"”"
This lineup cannot stay cold forever, this is the yankees thats enough for me you act like we have a bunch of .250 hitters on the team that cant make contact.
can we PLEASE put damon back in the lineup now?!?!?
Molina? We’ve hit rock bottom.
Actually I stand corrected. The AB by Melky and Christian were super. they really worked the count and almost had base hits.
I think that inning proved the Yankees are turning the corner.
I thought the purpose of a leadoff hitter was to get on base?? Take Christian out please.
Um, guys? John Danks of the White Sox is pitching a P****** G*** vs. the Red Sox through 5 right now.
I love the “Damon is fragile” stuff.
Carl Pavano is fragile. Johnny Damon isn’t fragile.
Do you really believe Justin Christian is a better option than the “fragile guy” who is leading the AL in hitting.
If we are going to sit guys down because we “think” they are fragile or because hitting over .400 on this road trip isn’t good enough, we have BIG problems.
Plus this is the twins a team we always hit well if it stays 2-0 i dunno how you can think its impossible to come back
What I can’t handle? Cashing out with 40 games left. Right now, at least by the looks of it, this team is in full cash out mode.
SPOT ON, SJ44…. Exactly what this team is doing.
This team reminds me of the French mens swim team. All talk in pre-game, but not good enough game time.
“This lineup cannot stay cold forever, this is the yankees thats enough for me you act like we have a bunch of .250 hitters on the team that cant make contact.”
This lineup has been cold since April.
Yankees play really efficient baseball – 1-2-3 innings… bueeee
sachez for the giants a no hitter through 4 and 2/3.
“Who on this team does anyone want to see at the plate in a critical situation? I’m at a loss to come up with a name. Doesn’t that say it all?â€
Abreu – At least he works the count and fouls pitches off. He does hand over at-bats.
The fact this team has Alex Rodriguez, Derek Jeter, Jason Giambi, Jorge Posada (albeit injured) and Ivan “Pudge” Rodriguez but everyone is begging for Jose Molina and Johnny Damon as the difference makers. The Yankees have no fire, their team has no fire. They cannot motivate these veterans and have nothing on the horizon.
Man Sid I apologize, here you are competing and we can’t give you a run if our life depended on it
SJ44 – i agree, to some extent. i don’t think girardi’s without blame, though. i just don’t think he’s a very good manager, and his limited track record doesn’t exactly refute that statement. yeah, a young florida team improved under his watch, and then he was shown the door. his constant lineup tinkering is one of the myriad reasons this offense has failed to find any consistency.
but, you’re right. at some point, what happens on the field is up to those who are on the field. this team has looked more lifeless this season than any team in recent memory.
i’m with you. i can handle losing. this team is going to win the world series again, it’s just a matter of time. what i don’t like is watching this team mail it in. and, to some degree, i think girardi has to be seen as culpable in that. he may not be THE problem – there may not be just one problem – but he certainly hasn’t been able to pinpoint a solution.
I agree with Brandon – you want to send a message to these guys – send their buddy Long packing after tonight’s game.
“But I do think Jeter is having a much better defensive season than last season.”
It is not about how he is doing relative to last year, it is about how he is doing relative to league average.
sachez for the giants a no hitter through 4 and 2/3.
That’s my boy !
score runs please
I’ve said it before, but I think the Yankees need to break up Melky and Cano. I’m sure it will piss Cano off, but something needs to be done to light a fire under Cano’s ass and Melky wouldn’t be much of a loss. The two of them seem more occupied with jumping up and down and cracking jokes (and hanging out at the clubs).
At this point though, it will be next to impossible to get anything back in value for Melky…he realistically should be the 4th outfielder on this team.
Ponson is pitching a gem… Where’s the life in this team???
It is sad that Sidney has become our best pitcher.
It is further sad that a pitcher can throw a 3 hitter, give up 2 runs and lose.
Great team!
ZMAN7777
“Who on this team does anyone want to see at the plate in a critical situation.”
That’s a tough one.
Maybe Mike Lowell- oh that’s right we traded him away.
How about Jermaine Dye-forgot Yankees didn’t want to trade Abreu even up for him.
Well then there is David Ortiz-oops they already had signed Giambi and Cashman told George that would be two 1B/DH’s.
Alfonso Soriano-wrong again we traded him for A-ROD.
No I can’t think of any on the active roster, but my hero was Mantle. Is that why you’re 7777?
Ponson is the only bright spot in this game. I also can’t believe I just typed that. lol
Props to Sidney. He and Giese have more than done their part. Very sad.
Unlike SJ44, I do not think the Yankees have given up; that’s the worst thing you can ever say about a team and I will never believe that about the Yankees. When you don’t execute, it looks like you’re not trying. I have no doubt that the players care and that they are trying. That being said, at 2-0, I feel that this game is over……..which is pathetic.
Do you guys think, by the way, that Joe might be damaging himself in the clubhouse by resting Damon? After all, Joe demands (rightly so) that they give it their best night in and night out and yet he did not do HIS job tonight by putting the best team on the field. I appreciate that he wants to rest his players and be sure they are in the best physical condition possible, but at this point in the season, no player in the game is at his peak. It’s all a matter of grinding it out. Joe is too smart for this. Back to my point, I suspect the players are not going to be happy about the benching of Damon when they need him most.
How strange would it be if both BOS and the Yanks missed the playoffs?
High expectations:
Jeter single
Abreu single
Arod homer.
What have I got to lose?
“this is the yankees thats enough for me”
this is the argument we see on the board pretty often. because they’re the yankees, they’ll find a way.
well, when you’re banking on nothing other than the fact that they’re wearing yankee uniforms, that’s a pretty dicey proposition.
damon’s fragile? he’s been on the DL, by my count, ONCE in his career. this season. he’s missed games here and there, and has a tendency to be melodramatic about his injuries, but johnny damon’s a gamer. dude’s been crashing into walls his entire career and has ONE DL stint to show for it. give me a team full of guys as “fragile” as johnny damon and i’ll go to war.
Laura — strange, but (as of now) deserved.
It’s the sixth inning and NO runs off Perkins????
Make that thirty two times this season that I’ve said, “It can’t get any worse than this”.
so much for that theory.
This team looks so lifeless…they need a good brawl or something to get them going.
Anything, at this point, really.
I agree with Brandon – you want to send a message to these guys – send their buddy Long packing after tonight’s game.
It’s not going to be a pretty thing but they need to face consequences for thier play it’s been horrible.
well there’s Jeter leading by example again
laura if that happened they’d have an all time low in ratings.
WTF are you doing Abreu??
Cut to the postgame: “Perkins was just nasty. Sometimes you just have to tip your hat to the opponent. Tomorrow’s a new day.
Oh God. You know things are going well for the offense when Abreu’s trying to bunt on the first pitch.
Girardi is so arrogant and dogmatic he reminds of a tragic hero.
These are times when I wish George was still his old self.
Tomorrow, he’d lambaste Girardi for playing Christian and Sexon tonight.
Lefties hit over .330 against Perkins. Giambi rested yesterday and hits lefties and righties equally and Damon is leading the league in hitting.
I hope all you people who clamored for Torre’s dismissal because he lost in the ALDS three years in a row are happy.
Girardi is the surly and arrogant little marinet we’ve gotten instead.
Who knew the offense would suck without Matsui, Posada, Damon, a bad season with Cano, and a $300 million dollar man that can’t hit in the clutch. That’s not to the mention the players we do have in there. (Justin Christian, Melky)
This is where we turn it around people!
Right here!
Let’s Go Yanks!!!!
betsy – this team is giving away at-bats like they were prizes at a raffle. if that’s not mailing it in, i don’t know what is.
Damn it Abreu…. the object of the Yankees is to stay off base.
You freakin show off. Getting a single will not get you another contract. To get that you must strike out or ground out….
What a wasted AB.
Oh well….
I hate to keep beating a dead horse, but….
Baseball players, generally, are notoriously streaky. Girardi has a bad habit of resting “hot” bats.
Shocking.
how about dereks performance tonight? Weak 3 ground balls. Get on melky all you want but our captain…
“laura if that happened they’d have an all time low in ratings.”
They would if the Cubs don’t make it.
Jezus Lord – this team just blows…
“Something isn’t right with team. A stink, stench or whatever you want to call it but, something isn’t right.”
SJ44, IMO, this team has too many overpriced, overthehill, tired, and worn-out veterans who just want to play out the season and go home. Let’s remember something else, this club is still made up of players that were Torre’s guys. There could be a little resentment there, especially with Girardi’s age and all. I think Girardi needs to be given a team that more resembles him for next year.
Also, if they are cashing it in, then let’s call up some of our promising youngsters and see what we have in terms of 09. Maybe we don’t have to go so heavy into the free-agent market if we have decent players to step up out of our own system.
I can’t wait to get rid of Abreu. He brings that no-intensity vibe thats perfect for a non-competitive club.
Same with Giambi and how he chats it up with everyone at 1st base.
What we have here is a collection of guys who half-ass it for one part of the season, then try to turn it on when they feel like it.
I love the Yanks and have all my life, but it’s just been so long since I’ve seen them play so badly for an entire season. I’d forgotten what it was like back in pre-Torre days. Honestly, I never thought I’d see it again. It’s just painful. Yes, plenty of key injuries this year so maybe, hopefully, it’s a one-time thing. Lots of money coming off the payroll so maybe Cashman – or whoever – will spend it wisely. But last off-season, they spent $400+ million just to keep together a team that hadn’t won the WS since ‘00, and that’s money we will never get back.
Danks just hit Ellsbury to break up his perfect game in the 6th lol.
“I hope all you people who clamored for Torre’s dismissal because he lost in the ALDS three years in a row are happy.”
dingdingding! winner!
given their payroll, this is the worst team in major league baseball.
Back to my point, I suspect the players are not going to be happy about the benching of Damon when they need him most.
I have a theory here, it’s not a good one, but maybe 2 things
1. Damon was the player who spoke out on Kennedy
2. Damon didn’t get the job done in Anaheim so he’s on the bench for it.
(I would have bench Robi)
Dynasty-”This is where we turn it around people.”
“This is where I turn the game off and go watch the Olympics.”
Goodnight all.
too bad I can’t watch sox v sox.
i dont know who’s worse… getting outpitched by Perkins or getting no-hit by Danks…
Betsy, if you feel a game is over at 2-0 with the lineup the Yankees are suppose to have, that is the very definition of watching a team that has mailed it in. Lesson, SJ44 is right.
on another note, THANKFULLY, Arod has restored a semblance of order by GIDP. He is the real leader of this team. Must show by example.
Kasey,
Its a bad mix of players. Veterans on their last legs here. Young guys who think they are better than they are. Some good players. Some injured players, and a lot of underperforming players.
You see signs of some promise for the future. However, the present ain’t too pretty.
One thing we haven’t seen this year is a real personality of this team.
What is it? A come from behind team? Nope.
A, “stomp on your throat” team? Nope.
There is no personality to this group.
Some of it is injury related. Losing Posada hurts because he is the one guy on the team who would put somebody up against wall watching crap like this.
Overall though, I guess the “personality” of this team is its softness. Its a VERY soft team.
Girardi isn’t a “soft” guy. Torre is. Perhaps that why this particular group responded in the regular season more to Torre than Girardi.
Given the fact they are 4-13 in their last 17 post-season games, it tells me softness may be nice in the regular season. However, its a killer in the post-season.
They just have to get to work in the off-season to mold this team to be tougher. What we watch on a daily basis this year is Ivory Soap soft and that ain’t gonna cut it in NY.
When guys like Kay and Flash are ripping the team, you KNOW its bad. The YES Network frowns on its announcers to go overboard in ripping the team.
Tonight, those two guys are right at the line and may be going over it a bit. Can’t say I blame them.
Real important we don’t let them get anymore here…
You torre defenders are lost
Good backup play there by the Big Sexy.
Michael Kay, I can’t let you get away with trying to justify Jeter’s sub-par season by telling us that he’s leading the #2 hitters with 49 rbi. He’s a table setter and is not judged on rbi he’s judged by runs and he’s got 65 to Pedroia’s 81 and Michael Young’s 77. Geez, what an apologist. He’s 32nd in the league in runs when he has spent his career in the top 5 pretty much every year he has played.
I disagree, Kasev. I just refuse to believe that my team would ever mail it in. As I said, poor execution makes a team look like it’s not trying.
Even Christian’s route to the ball was lazy and wrong.
Um Christian, this is not Scranton.
“I think Girardi needs to be given a team that more resembles him for next year.”
i’d rather they not field a team of a bunch of arrogant guys with napoleon complexes if it’s all the same to you.
show them dang yankees how its done.
hey look yankees – the twins are trying to manufacture a run… study this!!!!!!!!!1
Uh Oh.
Good job!
If u guys think Yanks offense is bad. Look at RedSox Offense. They are getting no-hit again. Their offense is pathetic. By the way if u guys didn’t notice John Danks has a perfect game NO-HITTER against RedSox in Chicago.
Why does 3-0 feel like 10-0?
Holy smokes! I dont recognize that play. You can do that?
situational hitting right there..something Long can’t preech
Ladies and Gentleman,
This season is over for Yankees.
I would put more attention to Dodgers which’s more fun to watch especially after Manny arrived.
This line-up sucks and I don’t get what Joe’s been thinking at all.
Watching more of them will shorten my life.
“I can’t wait to get rid of Abreu. He brings that no-intensity vibe thats perfect for a non-competitive club.”
You are kidding, right? You’re blaming Abreu for our problems? Abreu who has two hits tonight? Wow.
This is like the movie Major League, but without the heroic second half surge.
Whoa – you can hit a fly ball out and still score the man from third – zany!
I don’t think they’re mailing it at all. That said, I do get why people think they might be mailing it in. They do look horrible when they are playing like this.
This is just getting sad. I don’t even know why I had faith for tonight’s game.
You can tell how the Yanks are doing just from seeing who’s posting here.
If it’s SJ44 and the people who agree with him, it’s a loss.
If it’s trisha and her throng, it’s a win.
down 3 runs.
Might as well be 30
Twins showing the Yankees how it’s done – what a sad day this is…
This team has not given up, there is just no amphetamines or any greenies to pick up an old team. Combine that with guys who are just not ready to make the leap. The are still battling. Just because the GIDP doesn’t mean they have cashed in the season. If that was the case Jeter has cashed in the year.
I’m not giving up yet. There’s still over 6 weeks left.
“When guys like Kay and Flash are ripping the team, you KNOW its bad. The YES Network frowns on its announcers to go overboard in ripping the team.”
Something tells me that yesterday one of the higher ups at YES or the team gave the go ahead for the announcers to speak their minds.
Sidney gave a quality start.
Could not have asked for more.
Still three more innings for the offense to do something.
Whiff, no I don’t agree. I think it’s over because they can’t get out of their own way, not because they aren’t trying.
I see the A-Rod haters are out again. This is ridiculous – since when is leadership shown by batting .1000? There are many other players on this team that should be criticized, over and above Alex, and yet he’s the only one with a target on his back. When I see these comments, I roll my eyes and don’t take them seriously at all because it’s just all about hate-rod.
Obvious Prediction:
With two outs in the ninth, the Yanks rally for two runs and lose 3-2.
Brandon,
He’s not punishing Damon over Kennedy.
Girardi HATES Kennedy. Why would you think he would do anything to help or protect him?
There is no sinister notion at play. He made a call on the lineup and its the wrong one. Its that simple.
Girardi is old school. He has no beef with Damon.
He has a much bigger beef with Kennedy. He can’t stand him.
SJ44 – i absolutely agree that the closest thing to a “personality” we’ve seen from this team is careless and/or soft. that’s pathetic, any way you slice it.
betsy – you may refuse to believe it, but that doesn’t mean it’s not true. failure to execute is one thing. refusal to work counts – which results in all of these first-pitch GIDPs, is another thing entirely. this is a team – essentially the same team as last year’s – that used to grind opposing pitchers down. outs were productive, at-bats were prolonged. we have not seen that this year. that speaks largely to this team’s motivation and desire, or lack thereof. again, you may refuse to believe that, and that’s fine, but it’s right there in front of you. however you choose to see it is your prerogative.
200 million dollar circus.
What’s the message the players get if the Yanks fire Long after the game? That management is willing to make a scapegoat out of Long because they can’t change players?
What we need here is to put up at least 1 run this inning…
Is that too much to ask?
Girardi will not do any better with a different team. He is NOT a major league level manager. He had one year with the Marlins and the ONLY reason it was a big deal is because Pete’s media hacks had the Marlins dead before the season began. Otherwise, he did a crappy job in Florida and is picking up where he left off with the Yankees.
Oh and those same media guys..
Twins tanking
Rays tanking
Toronto the team to beat
Cleveland the team to beat
and on and on and on…..
Good job Nady, down by three, definitely swing at the first pitch. Good fundamental baseball
We should get 5% of these crappy pitchers next paychecks.We make them look good.
twins, 4 hits, 3 runs and 1 error
yankees, 4 hits and nothing.
Yes, defend Abreu. But where were you in the 1st half, when our awesome RF and 3rd hitter was batting .274 and contributing to losses left and right? Let me guess, you were all over Abreu then, but now you love him.
Or right! I forgot, those 1st half games don’t mean as much.
“Danks just hit Ellsbury to break up his perfect game in the 6th lol.”
Legit, or a ‘If I lean over the plate a little bit…’?
Oh My God, that ball was up at Sexson’s eyes!
This team gives up. What a joke. 3 runs against a guy they’ve clobbered twice this year is clearly too much!
This entire season is about the crappy offense. Our pitching means nothing. Our pitching, in fact, has been quite good. When fill in starters Ponson and Giese go a combined 12 innings 4 ER (3.33 ERA), and you lose, that’s pathetic. In fact, add in Ponson’s start they lost 1-0 to the Angels, and this is pathetic.
They aren’t going to magically turn this around. They don’t care, they have no game plan, and they are giving up on the season even though they’re not out of it yet. It’s obvious.
There were 3 blown games in the last week. That puts them 1 GB of the wild card on top. But guess what, they blew them all, gave them away, and now they are where they are because of THEM, NOT THE INJURIES.
They are pathetic. Their pitching has stepped up tremendously and what do they do? They give away at bats in winnable games. If not for their outstanding pitching they’d be UNDER .500 this year. So stop blaming the pitching and put the blame where it’s due- the “idiots”: Melky, Cano, etc
SEXSON U ARE AWFUL….
“If it’s trisha and her throng, it’s a win.”
Oh goody goody. I guess we’re gonna win.
Excuse me for having to call Tracfone to get minutes put on my cell phone. I haven’t missed a minute of the game however.
First pitching swinging by Nady, down 3 runs. Are you freaking kidding me?
1 run will give us hope…
2 will make us believe…
Let’s Go Yanks!
“He has a much bigger beef with Kennedy. He can’t stand him.”
If thats the case, they’d be better off shifting Kennedy then elsewhere, I’d imagine.
Isn’t a manager that loathes a player going to find it quite difficult to get anything decent out of him?
Twins announcers are funny. They just said this is where you start smelling victory.
Um these are the Yankees, you could smell victory in the first inning when they stranded a runner.
God, does no body pay attention to how bad this team is.
This team is an utter disgrace to the Yankees uniform that Ruth, Gehrig, Mantle, and DiMaggio wore. One of the most heartless performances I’ve ever seen from a team.
Brandon,
Long preaches it, they don’t listen. What do you want him to do when guys like Giambi and Cano won’t listen to him?
You have this belief that the hitting coach is to blame for the team not hitting.
Do you really think Kevin Long doesn’t know what the problem is with the team? The problem is, when you have guys who insist on doing things their own way (like Giambi hitting into the shift), there is only so much you can do.
You want to blame somebody for the offense, blame the guys who come to the plate with the bat in their hands. Its on them. Not the coaching staff.
They signed Kevin Long to a 3 year contract after last season. He’s not going anywhere.
Guys on the roster will be gone before he is.
He’s not going to be made a sacrifical lamb because a bunch of over the hill guys aren’t hitting.
They’re not choking on offense. The team is just not good offensively. Just look at this line up, there are 4 guys who this season are way below average hitters (Melky, Cano, Sexson, Christian), 2 major league average hitters (Jeter, Pudge), and 3 above average hitters (Arod, Abreu, Nady).
How are you gonna score when ur sending some one up there who is average at best offensively 2/3 of the time?
we are gonna get shutout in an extremely important game??
anyone want to predict the postgame quotes
Jeter:
Arod:
Damon:
Girardi:
200 million dollar triple A team.
“Yes, defend Abreu. But where were you in the 1st half, when our awesome RF and 3rd hitter was batting .274 and contributing to losses left and right? Let me guess, you were all over Abreu then, but now you love him.”
You apparently weren’t here because if you were, you’d know that I never got on Abreu. You’d also know that I’ve always been an Abreu supporter and would like for the Yankees to re-sign him.
If you want to lay the blame for the Yankees problems on one person’s feet, knock yourself out. You’d be wrong though.
Blame the offense?
Christian and Sexson are defensive replacements at best. They are bench players. Melky is hitting 200. Cano is a solid 250. A-Rod couldn’t get a hit with a man on if you put Madonna up as collateral. Jeter got old quick.
These aren’t your Daddy’s Yankees.
Did the addition of Pudge kill the chemistry of this team?
“If it’s trisha and her throng, it’s a win.”
I misread that at first and it was icky.
For everyone who is on the Abreu bandwagon, Paul O’Neill is freaking ashamed of you. You can’t ask for a more polar opposite personality.
Where’s the intensity from this team? Seems like people have really forgotten how the Yanks used to get it done.
And it wasn’t just pitching. It was a personality that is severely lacking right now.
“Excuse me for having to call Tracfone to get minutes put on my cell phone.”
easy now. i think the poster was making an observation that the “negative” posters are more vocal during losses, and the “positive” posters more vocal during wins.
might not be true, but the logic is relatively sound.
either way, i didn’t take it as in affront to you on any level.
I think Pudge brought the loser virus with him from Detroit. They got it bad over there.
Did the addition of Pudge kill the chemistry of this team?
Nope.
THe yankees are just not that good i guess..
Matt’s here, the Yankees must be losing.
SJ44, don’t you think you’re exaggerating Joe’s hatred for Ian? That’s a strong word. I assume you believe he hates Ian because of his comments a couple of months ago (NYC being too much pressure for him) and just recently? If not the comments, then why would Joe dislike Ian? Simply because he doesn’t throw strikes? I understand why he wants his pitchers to throw strikes, but hating or intensely disliking a kid because he’s not capable of it in the majors so far seems rather odd and completely unfair.
I hesitate to wonder how Joe feels about Phil…..I know how he feels about Joba, but really – if Joe is going to be manager for the long-term here, he’d better start having some patience with the kids. If not, then he was the wrong choice for manager.
Is it Kevin Longs fault Melky stinks?
Is it his fault Cano has a .300 OBP?
Is it his fault Damon and Giambi aren’t playing?
Is it his fault Jeter lost all his power?
Is it his fault A-Rod can’t hit with RISP?
Ok, the yankees will have dropped 4 straight after tonight.
Prediction on how many they will lose in a row:
I am going to say 6 before they win their next game.
So..the Olympics are on..
fire the hitting coach just for the sake of firing somebody.
It’s amazing how Kevin Long is still employed.
Youk broke up the no-hitter in the Sox game.
100 dollars girardi after the game says ” we need to win ball games”
“Legit, or a ‘If I lean over the plate a little bit…’?”
Nah, it was flush. Straight at him. Danks has since given up a single and walk.
SJ,
Why can’t Girardi stand IPK? He clearly was not fond of him long before IPK’s recent comments.
Ponson is only at 80 or so pitches.
Why bother following a team then, if you think they’re just mailing it in?
If I really believed that about this team I wouldnt bother following them at all. A team that mails it with 40 games to go, doesn’t deserve me as a fan.. ever, because thats just showing nothing but disrespect for the fans.
Perkins wife recently delivers a baby and the Yankees still can’t get to this guy. Last place Perkins wants to be is pitching right now.
Nice baby gift the Yankee offense is giving him though
I hope Damon and Giambi have a nice view from the bench.
PUDGE LOL
Jeter: platitudes, cliches
Arod: platitudes, cliches
Damon: maybe something remotely entertaining
Girardi: “it just happens sometimes.” OR maybe he’ll hold a meeting! that always seems to light a fire under this team!
kennedy is not a “kid”… he’s a grown man.
hate to be the bearer of bad news but next season won’t be any better. there is next to nada in the minors to help. and they have shown they won’t pay to help the team.
Visions of 1965 keep creeping into my mind….I felt back then that it was just a matter of time before the team would turn it on…..I mean after all these are The NY Yankees…The similarities are beginning to make themselves visable….I’m certain there’s a few who recall that season….Randy I, must recall that season….
Long was interviewed by Waldman on the pregame and you could just hear in his voice that he’s near the end of his rope. Basically admitted that the batters were not being “smart” at the plate, and doing the little things necessary when runners are on (like hitting a flyball instead of GIDP). It is hard to teach players how to be smart or have a game plan at the plate, a lot of that should be known by now and unfortunately this group doesn’t seem to have it.
He mentioned that there is only so much you can say too, because the more you harp on it the tighter the players get…at this point, does it matter?
Is it Kevin Longs fault Melky stinks?
Is it his fault Cano has a .300 OBP?
Is it his fault Damon and Giambi aren’t playing?
Is it his fault Jeter lost all his power?
Is it his fault A-Rod can’t hit with RISP?
yeah. it is. he’s the H I T T I N G C O A C H .
their not hitting. he’s not doing job. fire him.
If Cashman picks up Abreu option, he needs to have his head examined. I would take Nady in RF and Damon in LF any day over Abreu.
The money would be better spent on pitching.
this team makes me naucious
“It’s amazing how Kevin Long is still employed.”
Not really when you consider who’s running the team now.
If I’m Ponson, I rip everyone a new hole. He’s doing his job. Hello run support??
This would be the second straight decent game by Ponson that we’ve wasted.
Ponson is doing his job…
Why can’t the Yankee offense do theirs?
I just don’t get it-this team is more talented than this…they’ve got to start hitting…they’ve just got to!
In the 8th inning the Twins will feel the wrath of the Yankee offense!
“we are gonna get shutout in an extremely important game??”
…by a lousy pitcher!
what a pathetic team.
really, these guys quit in spring training. they should be ashamed to call themselves yanks
i dont want to hear about injuries.. the offense has been horrendous this year and that falls on the veterans. all of them
Paul O’Neill for bench coach in 2009. I know Posada is on the DL, but can he still come to the ball park? They need people to kick these guys asses.
“For everyone who is on the Abreu bandwagon, Paul O’Neill is freaking ashamed of you.”
I think that might just be the quote of the night around here.
Invoking Paul O’Neill. Thats sheer brilliance.
And if Kevin Long goes.. Girardi and Meacham go with him.
maybe he’s not the father? ever thought of that yankeenate?
this is the first time i’m going to say this, and i might regret it later on, however, due to the overall stupidity and lack of ability to manage a team in close/important games, they need to seriously consider a replacement in the managerial position.
WELL PHELPS IS ON IN LIKE 25 MINUTES!!!!
If this team continues to be bad, hopefully it’s bad enough that they are picking in the top 15 in the draft so they don’t have to give their pick to the Brewers for Sabathia.
Unfortunately, at this point, Keven Long has got to go. Not that it’s necessarily his fault, but they have to shake up the team SOMEHOW. It’s unfortunate, but he is the hitting coach, so he’ll have to take the fall for this one and be fired.
The front office and the staff thought Kennedy wasn’t mentally prepared back in May. They were forced to start him because they had no other options. They didn’t want to start him at all. Most in the FO think he doesn’t have it mentally to compete in NY and they rue the chance they had to move him when his value was high. Girardi is one of those who thinks the kid doesn’t compete and the kid doesn’t learn. A bad combo.
They sent him down originally and they claimed injury. That was never true. Only if you count the head and fixing that as an injury. Now the cats out of the bag and they may never get value from him. In a trade or actually pitching.
Is it Kevin Longs fault Melky stinks?
No it’s his fault his hitters haven’t shown any damn improvement in any area of hitting. Robi Cano again regressed, Arod regressed, Melky regressed, hitters are regressing how does this go unpunished. What effect does he have on this team ! What ! no situational hitting, no basics …no patience being sampled in ABs..WHAT DOES HE DO !
Donnie Baseball in a short span had this team patient and hitting the ball the right way in 06′. Chambliss was fired !, Downs was fired ! under Kevin Long just look at the whole thing how does he go untouched ! untalked about ! this is the guy that took credit for Arod last year…What the hell is going on this year !
“If Cashman picks up Abreu option, he needs to have his head examined. I would take Nady in RF and Damon in LF any day over Abreu.
The money would be better spent on pitching.”
I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but our bench sucks. Having Abreu, Matsui, Nady and Damon would give us some flexibility. Yes, we need to address pitching. But signing Bobby to a 1 or 2 yr deal wouldn’t be a bad deal IMO.
Red Sox take the lead 2-1 in the 7th.
Youk broke up the no-hitter w/ one out.
Where are all the naysayers now that Pudge has guided Sidney Ponson through three-run ball for seven innings? The criticism of him is ridiculous.
We can’t lose games where any pitcher goes 7 and allows 3 or less.
If we can’t win EVERY one of those games, we won’t make the playoffs.
The competition is much too good this year.
Melky Cabrera turn into Miguel Cabrera right now!!!
I’m so glad I can’t watch this game, being out of town. But judging from the box score, the Yankees have not shown up, again. Frankly, this offense was touted from day one, and I know the Yanks organization and the players love Kevin Long, but who is the fall-guy for this? You can’t just get rid of every player, can you? I don’t know what can be done…this team needs to be completely renovated.
Pat M,
To me, this is ‘79 without the death of a player, of course.
Injuries, underperformance by veteran players, and the feeling that the team was in a state of transition from the successful teams from 76-78. That was ‘79 in a nutshell.
I get the same feeling when I watch this team. I know at least 40% of these guys are gone after the year.
They probably know it too, which contributes to the indifferent play.
I’ve said it all year and I feel the same way tonight. I’m much more bullish on the future of this team than I am on the present.
Not enough gamer type guys on this team for my tastes. I think that will change in the off-season.
It will be a different group next year and its time. Frankly, I wish they could start deconstructing it now.
“Why bother following a team then, if you think they’re just mailing it in?”
because i realize/understand that it’s professional sports and sometimes it happens?
because i’ve always been a yankees fan and one mediocre season isn’t going to change that?
take your pick.
it’s not every player and it’s not every game, but it’s been a pretty common occurrence this season, in my opinion.
you may see something different when you watch the games. that’s perfectly understandable.
def,
‘and they’ve shown they won’t pay to help the team’
Seriously dude…that was a stupid post. What do you think over $200 mill is….
They even added to their payroll at the trade deadline
I love how Nady, Marte and Pudge got plugged into a team that was rolling, only to seemingly send it backward. Who would have figured added 3 great players to a team (which was heating up) would screw everything. Now Boston and Tampa Bay are getting the injury bug and Yankees won’t capitalize….
Another solid At-bat by Melky.
I find it hard to blame Long.
You can’t make lemonade with apples.
How the heck do the Yankees get shut out by the House of Pancakes?
Why is Christian batting?
Boston is winng BTW.
I think Girardi is on the hot seat!!!.. This is not good at all..
So no Damon at all this game…
This team rolls over and dies at any adversity.
A Yankees great passes away? We have to honor him? Ugh, so much pressure, guess I better lolly gag in the field.
We’re in the race still? Oh really? Guess I better go up there swinging at the first pitch out of the strike zone!
They had 1 chance, failed, and haven’t scored since. How many times do we see it this year where the offense misses an opportunity and does nothing the rest of the way?
Yesterday they had 2 in, 2nd and 3rd, no outs, top 1. They didn’t score any of those extra runs, and scored 1 more time the entire game. A game against CIN with a rookie on the mound, they had bases loaded, no outs, didn’t score, and got shutout. Tonight, same nonsense as always.
This team is pathetic, and watching them makes you want to smash up your TV. It’s one thing to just be bad and not have the talent, but these guys are not playing hard. This team is an EMBARRASSMENT.
MELKY MUST GO! NOW! SEND HIM DOWN MID-GAME! PLAY ANYONE ELSE IN CENTER! AT LEAST A MINOR LEAGUER WOULD GET EXPERIENCE!
How do Melky and Christian get at bats that inning?
Damon swinging the bat on the bench. Good place. Probably saving him for extras right?
Sexson, Pudge, Melky, Christian
sounds like…… outs.
This team needs the fans in Yankee stadium to chant “Yankees suck” for 7 innings straight.
that would ruffle feathers in the soft and weak Yankee management structure.
Arod would be in tears. Jeter would blow it off, and all the people that Cashman will undoubtably resign would defect.
If this team is going to go down can they please go down with there best and not this disgrace of a lineup??!! Someone tell Girardi to stop over managing and sitting Damon and Giambi when your replacements are Sexson who was released from the worse team in baseball and Christian who can’t hit major league pitching. Also Christian is playing ok..but you bat him lead off??!! Is Girardi absolutely kidding me? Also as everyone knows Melky is a absolutey pathetic player. But the last straw for me was him swinging at the 1swt pitch with 1st and 3rd. Get that useless loser off this team already. Send him down to AAA and let Christian play. Melky has been given 3 years…his time is up..
It’s not about Paul O’Neill, it’s about getting people who hate to lose (and are obviously quality players). Right now, I can’t say guys like Abreu, Giambi, Cano, Cabrera, pretty much half the roster, hate to lose. In fact, they seem pretty calm for a team thats about to stay home for October.
It’s like Tori Hunter said yesterday about that 10 hopper that made it through the infield. In the Angels clubhouse, there would have been a fight over why that got through. In the Yankees clubhouse, silence. No reaction.
How can Melky be allowed to hit in that spot? How can you let crucial games be decided in the late innings by your worst bench players? Is Girardi out of his freaking mind?
MINNESOTA IS A TEAM FIGHTING US FOR THE WILD CARD.
At least TRY to win?
All dead hitters.
Damon is helpless.
what free agents did they sign last yr? the yr before? the payroll is 200 mill because of the core from the 90’s and a-rod.
how has cashman helped out the bench? what pitcher has he spent thats been even decent?
u say 200 mill but its not really 200.
thats basically 6 players. jeter, posada, andy, a-rod, giambi, mo.
they havent spent on any bench player or any pitcher.
It’s almost like they just want to get this road trip over and start again at home. I don’t know. This is a head scratcher.
Shocking to see Christian hit in that spot.
beyond pitiful.
The only untouchable over the offseason should be Joba Chamberlain and Mariano Rivera.
Everyone else is available for the right price. This team needs a total makeover for next year.
Did Damon sleep with Girardi’s wife or something?!!!!!?!?!
This can’t be Long’s fault however if a team is no longer responding to a coach, the coach needs to be replaced. Personally I’d like to replace some of the players but…
Still I don’t see Long going anywhere.
But really what happened to Girardi and his discipline.
Wow was that a crappy inning.
does girardi have money on this game or something?
For everyone saying we are phoning it in, we aren’t. They are. This is absolutely embarrassing to have to defend our team. They have done just about everything wrong, all of them, including Girardi.
Well at least Johnny will be well rested for tomorrow.
Thankfully this will soon be over.
Phelps race on in 20 minutes or so
Girardi is sure doing some great coaching tonight. He lost this game before it even started, and that’s pretty hard to do with a $200 million payroll.
After this game, Brian Cashman should tell Girardi that if he ever fools around and puts a B lineup on the field again, he’s fired. And he should really mean it. This is probably the worst game the Yankees have played the entire year offensively. Just pathetic. Girardi can’t afford to not put the best lineup out there, he’s simply not a good enough manager to do things like that.
i cant believe this garbage.. Throw in the towel.. this season is history.. It starts with a bold move and it is too move the idiot at thirdbase.. he has brought a curse to these yankees… then we move to the pitching staff and we get another horse cause u cant have enough pitching as we learned this season.. and finally figure something out at first base and in the outfield. Giambi cant come back.
What Yank in the postgame tonight will say every game is like a playoff game?
Does Girardi know that the team has off thursday and everyone can rest that day?
the Yanks are really battling tonight.. Jeter is up to seeing 7 Pitches so I may be wrong in my prediction.
But I especially respect the fight the team has shown tonight..
Perkins this guy is nothing..Irod cannot get around on a 90 MPH fastball at all.
I do not want to insult crappy teams to include the Yanks in that discussion they are worth then crappy. If we had clutch Giambi in the lineup and super arm Damon it would be different since they have been proving that all year..
The good news is Cano is up to 302 for the OBP, he is dominating…. Abreu, arod, and Nady in the 9th against Nathan it should be humorous to watch..
Imagine Ponson has pitched well for the Yanks for over a month….
I find it hard to blame Long.
You can’t make lemonade with apples.
Unfortunately he’s not in liberty to mix any ingredients. Again I ask how does he go untouched ! Any other batting coach in the majors would kill to have this lineup but from what I’m seeing this season it’s been one of the worst that I’ve ever seen.
def
really… You forget Arod’s contract? And how is it not 200 million? 200 million is 200 million regardless of how it is split between players.
Bench players don’t win you divisions….
I’m gonna stop…you obviously don’t have a clue
I really pray that Hank cleans house.
How Christian, Melky and Sexson are in the same lineup at once is stupefying.
Seriously, do the twins really need another run?
maybe they should look at who they are playing. Another run means nothing.
But with Edwar warming, they don’t have to bunt.
DAMON SHOULD BE PLAYING. Melky should be sitting.
WHAT IS WRONG WITH GIRARDI?
Why do these guys look so lifeless? They make a lot of money to just not care.
Indicted for impersonating a baseball team – the New York Yankees!
I hope the media hammers Girardi instead of giving him a pass. This is just flat out disgusting.
Melky righthanded is hard to watch he is absolutely clueless and pathetic…
This team is a n embarrasment to the uniform they wear.
An embarrasement from top of the team to the bottom.. Moose gets a pass that is it.
this team is atrocious …
The postgame interviews should be more then humorous tonight but of course Peter wil tell us why they could have won if they only played damon and jason (clutch) Giambi and if they had some heart and more then heart brains.
they have no plate discipline and swing at crap.. Nady looks to be joining that club also BTW.
Can’t even turn a double play.
Fantastic
Yeah SJ, I too thought of 79…The Mantle – Maris teams were already starting to slid…They did start to intro young players , Tresh, Pepitone, Bouton, Downing, Stottelmeyer, but the core of the team went down fast…Mick, Roger, Kubek & Richardson retired and they never recovered until 76….Maybe not quite the same as today, but they did underachieve in 65 and 79 as well…..I almost cannot believe what I’m watching this season….It’s been a gradual slide since 04 I guess….
I have no idea why this lineup was put on the field. If they’ve given up on the season, please tell the fans so we can stop giving a crap.
benches dont win you divisions?? pitching doesn’t win you divisions? did u forget how we won 4 titles in the 90’s?
i guess having a weak bench helped us this yr? and last? and the yr before? replacing matsui with justin christian and bret gardener was good?
replacing posada was moeller? replacing wang with rasner?
having no utility infielder is swell. no speed is great.
no lefty in the pen for 100 games is a great use of resources.
this is a terrible team for 200+.
Not at all. I realize they’re playing quite badly and I can see why the perception is out there that they are mailing it in. I just think thats just what it is, perception. I’m quite willing to admit that I might be wrong in my perception but at this point i’m not quite sure about that.
Personally, I dont want to think they’re mailing it in because quite frankly that would make me feel like some kind of idiot in even rooting for them.
Perhaps I’m wrong and they’re having a great big laugh at my expense for bothering with them, and they are counting the days till the offseason. I certainly don’t expect them to win every year at all, but I have never doubted they’ve always put forward their best effort, even if it hasn’t been always executed and brought the results hoped for.
Pete you HAVE to find out why Damon and Giambi werent in the lineup.
the game is 2 hours that is all you need to know about the Yankees AB’s.
2 hours……..
Can’t wait to hear what Girardi has to say post-game.
Oh this post game should be a hoot to watch.
As if his anemic pitch calling weren’t enough Pudge hasn’t been able to hit the side of a barn since he’s been here…
Seriously unless Damon is hurt that he or we don’t know about..how does Girardi not pinch hit Damon for Melky or Christian??!!! Both of them had the same pathetic at bats every time up. A pitch off the plate and they slap at it just to make contact. Just embarrassing…This team is clearly under performing but a ton of Girardi’s moves this season have made absolutely no sense.
They put 3 automatic outs in a lineup. It’s like the SF Giants here.
“Visions of 1965 keep creeping into my mind….I felt back then that it was just a matter of time before the team would turn it on…..I mean after all these are The NY Yankees…The similarities are beginning to make themselves visable….I’m certain there’s a few who recall that season….Randy I, must recall that season….”
I recall that season, Pat. I had high hopes too after watching them nearly pull off the 1964 Series. I was 15 at the time, but I was a believer in Mantle, Maris, Ford, Richardson, Stottlemeyer, and we also had a young kid that was supposed to be terrific, Bobby Murcer. This team is not as old as that bunch, but the similarities as far as being “tired” are sure there.
IMO not throwing Damon out there shows that Girardi has basically given up on the season. He’s one of the hottest hitters in the line up. Can’t blame the turf.
PUDGE LOL HAAHAHAHAH LOL
Punch Punto in the face, start a brawl, get some fire. Switch Pudge for Molina.
Giambi not being in the lineup isnt mysterious he hasnt played against a lefty since sexson came here
Brandon,
I’d have to agree with you on Long. Here’s to bringing back Don Mattingly…oh, but wait, he’s in love with Joe Torre.
Frankly, despite Girardi’s lineups, I see him trying to ignite something, anything…but this team is not responding. Girardi’s “discipline” is probably gone because he’s got a bunch of primadonnas who will cry if you insult them.
Tough to be an optimist now.
It’s almost like Girardi wants to lose.
Torre will find a way to the post season even with a terrible LA bunch.
Pete: The media has GOT to go after Girardi for sitting Damon. Melky completely sucks and he should be sitting.
When he made a decision, a few games ago, to PINCH HIT Melky who is a woefully horrible batter and PINCH RUN a catcher, I knew he had LOST HIS MIND.
Ever since that day it’s obvious he has no clue what he is doing.
The media has got to ask him why he’s not trying to win ball games.
Not pinch hitting for Melky or Christian. Girardi doesn’t even care anymore, I hope he gets roasted for this (coming from someone who wanted him as the coach) What a complete crock of ….
All you morons are blaming it on the lineup.. this great team has scored less then 3 runs about 35 times..
This great lineup has scored less then 3 runs about 25 % of the games!!!!!Hang your hat on another distraction instead of the facts. Jeter, abreu, giambi, cano. melky, all the catchers, etc. SUCK.. THAT IS THE FACTS THOSE GUYS SUCK…
they just suck it is the truth..
Never thought I’d see the day 3 runs shutdown this offense.
We need to sign Abreu for $16 million for bench flexibility and lineup options? How about no. Next year, Matsui and Damon will rotate between LF and DH, and Nady plays RF. Why would you add 16 million to the payroll when you already have a productive player like Nady? It’s comical how some Yankee fans throw around 16 million like it’s no big deal. AND you’re not even getting an all-star player for it. Great GM work.
I know we can’t win every year, but damn, this just blows. I’ve gotta go through another off season hoping and praying we don’t trade our good young talent (NOT MELKY), and have a couple of good (not great) signings in the offseason and cut bait with the Giambi’s, Sexon’s, Pudge’s, Pavano’s, Mussina (08 MVP by the way), Abreu’s, of this team. Put together a young, solid, atheltic team and hope next years team isn’t ANYTHING resembling this mess. Phil, Ian, Joba, Austin, Montero, Melancon, Betances, Nova, McCallister, and the Romine’s of the world should be coming up or already up in the next few years (excluding Phil, Joba who are already here). Bring the Yanks back the where we belong PLEASE!!!!!
Careful, Sydney, we can’t afford to let this game get out of hand.
Kudos to Mark for the question of the day:
“What Yank in the postgame tonight will say every game is like a playoff game?”
I can’t wait to find out! I hope they throw in a bonus line, such as, “The next 50 days are really going to show what kind of character this team has.”
Enough already!!
I actually turned the game over.
I’m not a guy, but I get a pained look on my face when I see a male gymnast doing the splits. Just ouch.
Blaming the hitting coach?
You people are just morons.
You could bring in Walt Hriniak, Ted Williams, and Ty Cobb and they couldn’t teach this group of terrible hitters how to grind out at bats and hit.
You really think anyone can get Sexson to hit? Melky? What pitcher would ever throw Cano a strike?
Not to be completely pessimistic, but unless some good free agents are signed or good trades made, I am not all that optimistic about next year. What do you really have that you can count on? Joba, Mariano, Damon, Nady and probably Wang. Not enough to get to the playoffs unless massive reinforcements are brought in. This winter will be one of the first where Cashman (if he stays) will be asked to make major moves to put a winner on the field. He should be a busy beaver.
Ponson is going to give up a run now and the Yankees are going to get 3 in the ninth.
Don’t get your hopes up about the post game.
Girardi: Well Perkins pitched great and the offense just didn’t have it. It’s happens sometimes, that’s baseball.
im gunna continue following them all year but this season is over. never capitalize on anything!
“Perhaps I’m wrong and they’re having a great big laugh at my expense for bothering with them, and they are counting the days till the offseason.”
oh i doubt that’s happening. people take it too personally.
it’s a job to these guys. sure, it’s a great job, but please don’t forget that it’s their job. sometimes when this many players get stuck in respective ruts, and luck seems to fall a certain way more often than not, the players begin to resign themselves to the understanding that this probably isn’t their year. remember when boston finished in 3rd place? injuries, an offense that couldn’t capitalize, etc. do you think it’s a massive coincidence that situation appears to mirror this one.
most of these guys have been playing the game long enough to know that every year is not going to be their year. some of these guys are young and arrogant enough to think they’re “above” being coached.
it’s not like they’re all sitting around laughing at “us suckers.” people take this stuff way too personally. fact of the matter is, i can’t imagine any of us shows up to work and gives our absolute best every single day. neither do these guys. some years, it’s a more frequent occurrence than others. this is one of those years. it happens.
I just don’t see how this is Kevin Long’s fault. I think it’a time to admit this lineup just isn’t that damn good.
The only good years have come from Damon and A-Rod. Jeter is in the midst of a serious decline. Cano is in the midst of an Andrew Jones-like decline. Cabrera has never been any good. Signing Richie Sexon, a scrub on a last place team, is supposed to bring us out of the doldrums?
It’s a joke. It really is.
Does it matter if the Twins add a run? What are the chances that we’re going to score 3 in the top of the 9th off of Nathan?
But Damon doesn’t suck and he’s SITTING. That’s just WRONG.
The team can’t come to life if they think the manager is a moron.
everything is on girandi… does anybody remember when people used to say that joe torre was not good but anybody could get the team to the playoffs with that team? i knew this… how i miss joe torre… he put the team in the play offs no matter what. Girardi should go back to he NL and manage there… this league is not big for him…
I have been mightily underwhelmed by Joe Girardi this season. What a disappointment.
Stick a fork in this team — they’re D O N E DONE DONE DONE.
Time to play the kids and get a head start on the 2008 offseason and 2009.
You know, Ponson has been a real gamer since we got him off the scrap heap. He has pitched very very well and his record definately doesn’t do him justice.
He has been better than a 4th/5th starter for the most part. Cannot ask for anything more than that. Feel kinda bad for him.
Yankees need to resign Mussina. They need the veteran mix with the kids.
They make too much money to phone it in. EVER.
Well, there’s good news. Now that’s its 4 runs, no Nathan.
What’s funny about that is, we’ve had games where we couldn’t score a guy from 3rd on an infield single.
Well, I thought it was funny anyway.
when was the last time anyone on the Yankees scored from 2nd on an infield hit?
Infield single scores a run? Defense please.
Well Pepitone, You must remember the dark ages that were to take place after that shocking season…1966 they hit the basement will a thud that I’ll never forget…This team still has a wealth of talent..After the trades I was cetrtain that would jump start the club…..They just seem to be going thru the paces….
I know where you’re coming from Kasey. You’re probably right. I really try not to take them personally, its just that occasionally it does feel a bit personal, y’know?
I’m just crabby tonight. I’m covered in mosquito bites and not a happy camper about that.
E-Man, that’s a great prediction. I bet Girardi will say that exact excuse.
Lance, you’d have to bring in Ted Williams’ head as batting coach and then you could put these games on ice.
I’m not even mad at you Sir Sidney. Great job tonight.
Blaming the hitting coach?
Not putting ownership on the problem just continues it. Again what has he done for 08′ ?
This is just a comedy of errors.
Get off Long. He has nothing to do with this. Hitting coach is, and always has been, a pointless position. That’s why he’s usually the fall guy when things go wrong. This is on the players and Girardi. A-Rod, Jeter, Abreu, Giambi… they didn’t forget how to hit in the clutch because of anything Long did. It’s stupid.
There is no life to this 200 million dollar offense. They can’t even score 1 run. There are HOF Players in this line-up and they just have too much pressure on them to beat the Twins and win the Wild Card. What a JOKE these last 2 months a going to be. Thanks for not trying……Yanks
A run just scored from 2nd on an infield hit…..
Well there you have it, the Yankees officially suck!
This is a team of heartless quitters who should be ashamed to wear pinstripes.
Pete, you need to have all your ball-less colleagues start asking the really hard questions of the Yankees and their manager. This put the full court press on the front office.
This team couldn’t beat AAA Scranton… just pathetic, freakin pathetic.
I will gladly take the money owed to me by V and others who said this team would win more than 85 games and make the playoffs.
You’d think for 200 million you wouldn’t need coaching.
Well, the offense has let down this team in 2008.
They thought it would carry them young pitching and it really hasn’t. They got no grinders in there.
They let CF become a wasteland. They let injuries cripple them.
Sad to see.
Thanks Cash for improving the starting pitching!
PUDGE HA HA HA LOL LOL HA HA
When does the NFL season kick off?
Girardi should be in jail after this game…
Buck Showalter is available, let’s get him, at least he helped build championship teams.
Phelps time!!
Who would have thought Sidney Ponson would demonstrate more fight than most of our “True Yankees?”
At least Sid looked pissed. We need more guys like Ponson!!!
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
Kennedy would be popping champagne after that game.
i predict edwar will give up 2 more runs atleast.
Get Girardi off this team
Think about this Yankee fans:
Where would this team be if Mike Mussina wasn’t having a Cy Young caliber year?
Was it evident to anyone else in the Mauer at-bat, let alone the Morneau at-bat, that Ponson was laboring.
Nothing would please me more tomorrow that to hear a Steinbrenner skewer Girardi in the press tomorrow.
Is Don Mattingly still available?
Girardi has so incensed me I almost wouldn’t mind seeing him fired. I’d regret it afterward. But it would gratify me for the day.
Stick a Fork in it!
Ken Phelps?
def
Think about what you are saying..I never said pitching doesn’t win divisions. This year they didn’t do much along the lines of pitching, and they said they wouldn’t in order to develop the 3 young guys. It’s a risk and we don’t know whether it will pay off or not. There wasn’t much in terms of free agency this year.
No one would want to replace Wang with Rasner…so don’t make such statement.
Moeller is the 3rd string…no team counts on the 3rd string. This is why they got Pudge. Hadn’t worked quite as well as we hoped.
200 million was already locked up in what you see in this team…and you are correct they are a terrible looking $200 million team
Phelps race gonna start soon on NBC. Go Michael!
Molina has to be the everyday catcher. Pudge does not know the pitchers and he looks like he is 100 years old behind the plate. Molina is much better all around at this point in there carers. Plus Pudge hasn’t hit at all. I feel like the Yanks lose every game that he catches.
yeah it is Girardi that is it, can’t you see the magic torre is working with the DOdgers!!!!
Yeah it is the manager change…
It is not that our hitters show no discipline especially on first pitches when men are on base.. I do blame Girardi for not putting the take on the guys who need some discipline like; cano, melky, betemit, jeter, and others.. He needs to treat them like little leaguers they have earned it…
They are losing because of the manager , the hitting coach, the trainer, the bat boys, the traveling secty., and the physical trainers that is it.. I found out why they suck they need to fire all these people……
The fault of this team lies with Cashman. He had an opportunity to shore up the pen with Fuentes for Kennedy. He should have opened up the vault for Sabathia. He should have traded for Santana.
The happiest day of the year will be when the Yankees do not resign Cashman. The Yankees will never win again with him at the helm.
This could be a case where the hitters arrived at the ballpark, saw that Damon wasn’t playing and immediately took on a “we’re going to lose” mentality. If you think it, it will happen.
Don’t worry this inning will take about 3 mins. and 45 seconds
well MADDEN 09 is out now so we can all play that all night instead of watching this pathetic team
Yeah, Pat, I definitely remember 1966, I wish I could forget! I don’t think this team will end up like that, but there have to be some very shrewd moves made in the offseason, or we will be looking at another year out of the playoffs in 2009.
Well, I was wrong. We are getting Nathan.
They’ll score 4 in the top of the ninth, have 2nd and 3rd with 1 out. Leave them stranded. Bring in Mo’ to keep it tied in the 9th, and lose 5-4.
Arod strikes out on 3 pitches.
ANOTHER BRILLIANT COACHING AND LOST GAME BY GIRARDI. WHAT A SUCKER!!!!!
PUDGE HA HA HA LOL LOL HA HA
I know…did you see that K Edwar threw w/ Pudge catching LOL…
This should be a fast 1-2-3 for Nathan
Sidney did his job. He certainly has been a gamer for the Yankees.
I admit I am totally mystified. How can a team that has scored 13 runs in a game, or won 8 straight after the ASG, turn into this?
I find it actually too painful to watch the postgame and I certainly won’t be watching Baseball Tonight.
This is just painful.
I just read the article about Sheffield upset over the DH role. Isn’t this the same Gary Sheffield who boasted about going to Detroit b/c of the money that he would make and that he wouldn’t have to do us much there (meaning he would just get to DH)?
Man, I’m so glad we got rid of him. It was tough to like him even though i’ve said that Yankee pinstripes will make me like anyone.
Before the game, Girardi said that they had to treat every series like the playoffs from here on out. My question: Is he really going to lead off with Christian in left and leave Damon on the bench in game one of the playoffs (on the slim chance we make it)?!?
yeah it is Girardi that is it, can’t you see the magic torre is working with the DOdgers!!!!
torre has less to work with than Girardi and his team is filled with quitters.
As the saying going, you need to see the bottom before going up
I think today is the bottom with 5 games behind in WC and things will turn around from tomorrow. I refuse to give up.
Trade for gamers/and sign free agents. We need tough guys like ONeill, Tino, Brosius, Bernie. This decline started when we started overpaying for supposed “stars”.
Off season:
Decide if Cano has the heart to play here (Mark Ellis is out there).
NO Teixeira
NO CC
Resign Mussina and Pettitte
Start Hughes in AAA
Joe Crede and move him to First
Rocco Baldelli
Maybe Jon Garland
It would be very cool to work something out with Toronto to get Roy Halladay too.
Please don’t announce Olympic results on here. There are time zones in the country that are behind the East Coast coverage. Thanks
torre has less to work with than Girardi and his team is filled with quitters.
Clearly your joking…
Sadly, this ship is sinking
That wasn’t a strike. That ump obviously has a date after the game.
There is no way that is a strike….
Arod knew he would get killed on this board if he hit a stat-padding homer there so he took one for the LoHud team.
Much appreciated, Alex.
I can’t blame Long for the offense. Melky is abysmal offensively and always has been. Sexson has the slowest bat in the majors. Christian is a righthanded slap hitter. Cano has an OBP below 300. Jeter is having the worst offensive season of his career and it might be because of injury. Matsui and Posada and Damon have been in and out of the lineup and unable to consistently help tthe offense. No matter who was the hitting coach this team was going to struggle offensively.
>>Before the game, Girardi said that they had to treat every series like the playoffs from here on out.
This game doesn’t remind you exactly of every playoff game they’ve played in the last 3 years?
“Pete, you need to have all your ball-less colleagues start asking the really hard questions of the Yankees and their manager. This put the full court press on the front office.”
Leave no prisoners………I want answers……this is wrong!
Atta Boy K Rod.
Earn that paycheck
This season has moved from baffling to completely unacceptable.
It’s hard to know where to start with this team. It’s a near global failure of performance.
Some teams are better than the sum of their parts. This team’s is the exact opposite. The sum as a team is much less than the addition of its parts.
It would be understandable if the team just couldn’t compete when Ponson, Rasner and Giese were throwing. But that’s not really what’s been the problem.
They’re on a pace to score 781 runs. Hard to believe. That’s almost 200 runs less than last year and 150 runs fewer than they were reasonably expected to produce at the beginning of the year.
Given the injuries to the Red Sox, there’s still a chance they could sneak into the wild card. But every day the probability of that keeps decreasing as one bad performance piles onto the next.
And with a failure this massive you can’t simply blame the manager or the coaches – this goes way past the effect that coaching has on the game.
This is squarely on the players. Again – this team was reasonably expected to score around 920 runs before the season started based on their recent performances. Even with missing Posada and Matsui they are nowhere near expectations.
That said – it’s really hard to believe how minimally the team has responded to Girardi. It’s remarkable also to watch so many of the assumptions people made about how Girardi was going to manage the team unravel. He’s much better with the bull pen. But in no way does he manage the team in a more rational, fact based fashion. Nor does he manage “out of the box.” His insistence on lefty-right match ups is remarkable. Benching Damon tonight perplexing.
This season makes the move towards younger players on the pitching staff that much more fortunate. They need massive change this off season – whether they are fortunate to sneak into the wild card or not.
“I think today is the bottom with 5 games behind in WC and things will turn around from tomorrow. I refuse to give up.”
Let me know when you return to earth.
This is what urgency feels like? Feels more like gas to me.
Girardi says “You just have to tip your hat. That’s baseball. We have to start winning now!”
Bring back Morgan Ensberg to light a fire under this team.
Stop with all the negativity!
The Yankees are too big to fail!
“It would be very cool to work something out with Toronto to get Roy Halladay too.”
This isn’t your Fantasy Baseball league.
Murderers row battling in the 9th…
they little like little boys, foolish little boys, clueless little boys.
Arod wherever he goes winning follows,I wonder if there is any cause and effect..
Lost to a punk pitchers with a middle infield combo of everitt and punto a rookie CF hitting like Melky and I forgot a rookie 3b and some other junk..
yeah the big boys did it up tonight..
and Kay going on and on about Giambino(sucks) and Damon(he is leading the league in hitting)..
Hey in case you did not know DAMON IS LEADING THE LEAGUE IN HITTING AT WHAT 320 OR 390???????
Don’t worry Jetes you still got the view of the PAnaramic vista roof
Urgency = the side striking out in the 9th. Way to fix this mess.
That was pathetic.
1st and 3rd, no outs, and what happens?
THEY GET SHUT OUT.
This team is a joke. They should be paying us for sitting here watching them. They look defeated every time they step on the field. They are more embarrassing than last year’s Mets, and that’s hard to do.
Yanks really were stupid to hire Girardi with close to zero experience. This is the Yankees not the Pirates. People who don’t think experiences means anything is crazy.
You know what’s wrong with this team? They’re a bunch of wimps! They have no heart! They’re soft! Any team can beat their faces in. They don’t deserve to be in the playoffs. This team has too many sissies on it. The Orioles and Royals have more fight in them.
Urgency = the side striking out in the 9th. Way to fix this mess a-holes. That is 2.5 hours ill never have back.
WWOOORRRSSEEEE TTEEEAMMMM IIINNNN BBBAASSEEEBBAAAALLLL!!!!!
Anyone surprised we got shutout with that AA lineup out there?
“That’s all we got? 4 goddamn hits?”
“You can’t say “goddamn” on the blog.”
“Don’t worry. Nobody’s reading anyway.”
Toronto won’t trade Doc to a division opponent.
Honestly, Kevin Long is just doing a horrible job. It’s a combination of Long and the players. We have scored fewer than 2 runs almost 3 dozen times this season.
By the way, if we trade Cano, who plays 2nd? People say Ransom is a AAAA player or a career minor leaguer. Betemit is a strikeout waiting to happen. We have no depth at 2nd in the minors. Sure, I’d like to have Kemp but still.
We have 88 mil coming off the payroll at the end of the season. Sign Tex and CC. Resign Moose. Let Abreu and Giambi walk. For one, they will get draft picks. Second, Giambi is hurting this ballclub defensively and offensively. Abreu is a “distraction” to Cano and Melky. I like Abreu’s patience, but next yr we’ll have Damon/Melky/Nady with Matsui the DH and in 2010 we’ll have Jackson MLB ready and possibly an improved Gardner. We could go out and sign Vlad or another FA at the end of the ‘09 season.
At least Phelps won and the US baseball team against Korea later.
The Giambi/Sexson platoon at first needs to end now. Johnny Damon needs to be in the line up every day, either in the outfield or a DH. Justin Christian is nothing more than a good pinch runner off the bench.
“Arod knew he would get killed on this board if he hit a stat-padding homer there so he took one for the LoHud team.”
Thanks. The first time I laughed all night!
“Girardi says “You just have to tip your hat. That’s baseball. We have to start winning now!—
Lol, I forgot about that one.. Yeah he’s going to say this too.
Where to even begin..:(
“Let me know when you return to earth.”
Come back on 15th September and then we will discuss.
gotta put this game behind us right away and look to take the series ONE game at time over the next 2 days….these are the Twins, people, they are very beatable….understandably, the Yankees looked flat after the trouncing they got at the hands of LAA and then having to fly to Minn, etc….not an excuse, just reality….They will get rested now and come out strong tomorrow…..you watch. Good night, ALL !
Trenton finds a way to win this game.
Tomorrow night against a tough righty like Nick Blackburn, a righty, Girardi should rest A-Rod and Jeter.
Betemit can play 3B and they can promote Bernie Castro from Scranton to play SS.
Jeter and A-Rod have “play a lot.”
Brandon..he also has his voice activated microsoft sync system
I live out in LA and Torre has not make one bit of difference in the Dodgers. Also, if Torre had the amount of injuries, distractions, and personnel turnover as the Yankees have had this year, he wouldn’t have fared any better than Girardi.
These guys are relly gonna hear it at Festivus!
“The Yankees are too big to fail!”
So if they do it’ll be an epic fail?
Can the Yankees beat a little league team? I’m not even joking
Tomorrow night against a tough righty like Nick Blackburn, Girardi should rest A-Rod and Jeter.
Betemit can play 3B and they can promote Bernie Castro from Scranton to play SS.
Jeter and A-Rod have “played a lot.â€
this game doesn’t remind you of a game I will remind you the last game of the tigers series in the playoffs a few years ago.
Captn. Joe was at the helm he batted the best player in the game I think 7th and they went down like lambs going to slaughter like tonight.
again why do idiots talk about Sexson stinking and Melky but never point at the ZILLIONAIRES??
Will any Yankee hitter get 100 RBI’s this year???Think about that, who will? How many? 3 maybe if they get hot.. this team may have 1 guy swith 100 RBI’s and you are blaming darrel rasner for sucking or david robertson for walking to many guys or some other firnge guy for failing..
They may have only 1 player with 100 RBI’s that is staggering……
In the case of this team, failure IS an option. As seen by the lineup posted for this game, Girardi is content with mediocrity.
NO BIG CONTRACTS!!!!!
NO Tex. NO Sabathia.
We’ve played for 7 years with guys who go for the money. Hasnt worked out. ONeill, Bernie, Tino. Ill take that 3-4-5 anyday over Abreu, A-Rod and Giambi.
Girardi must be fired NOW. How is anyone on this team able to take him seriously?
He says it’s urgent, that they have to win games, and what does he do? He benches Damon and Giambi, two of his most patient, feared hitters! How can anyone listen to this guy when he’s such a hypocrite?
He “tips his cap” to the pitcher more than any manager in Yankees history. Did you notice that last year this team beat EVERYONE? There is no such thing as a “good pitcher” if your offense actually knows how to hit situationally and drive in runs.
Girardi is dragging this team down. Not only does he not give his team a chance to win by playing the wrong players, but he doesn’t instill fight or an attitude in his team when he doesn’t back up his talk with action.
It’s not the injuries, it’s the players and the manager not doing their jobs. There has to be accountability. Sit the players, fire the manager.
I think the thing i dont understand the most is i think it was 8th inning the designated lineup for the inning was melky jchrist jeter. I don’t understand why in that point when your down only 3 nothing why you dont pinch hit damon for melky then giambi for jchrist why we let both of them bat really puzzled me. Also, girardi really didn’t look that concerned when they kept showing him in the dugout he kinda just had his hand on his chin like he was clueless.
NO BIG CONTRACTS!!!!!
NO Tex. NO Sabathia.
We’ve played for 7 years with guys who go for the money. Hasnt worked out. ONeill, Bernie, Tino. Ill take that 3-4-5 anyday over Abreu, A-Rod and Giambi.
Hell…. Bring back and sign all three of them for the rest of the season. Give them 5 mil each and hand them a glove and bat. We may still have a chance.
BRING CC IN.
Say no to TEX
Torre may not have made a big difference in LA but he appeared to have a calming influence when he made his slow walks out to the mound this weekend in San Francisco. Even Manny looked touched.
Honestly, Kevin Long is just doing a horrible job. It’s a combination of Long and the players. We have scored fewer than 2 runs almost 3 dozen times this season.
THANK YOU MATT, IDK why it is I’m the only one that notices this type of stuff. Kevin Long had to successors under his watch before he was a Yankee, Carlos Pena and Raul Ibanez..he’s not a true ML hitting coach, he wasn’t a good ML hitter, his methods has not helped this team this season, all he preeches from what I’ve seen is short stride and full extension, nothing really jaw dropping to merit him being employed.
For the record, today is 11th August, when even Trisha seems to have given up on the team. Looks like I am alone in believing in the team. Let us see what happens in the next 40+ games.
I want to apologize I thought Jeter would only see 7 pitches tonight he saw about 12. .Our captn. also got the ball out of the infield once so he should get a contract extension for his heroic performance…..
pete you seem to not like girardi. does your strained relationship with him cloud what would be otherwise excellent and thorough reporting?
There’s no need to kid ourselves. Boston is light-years ahead of us now in terms an organization.
Better talent, more gamers in the lineup, better pitching, better farm system, and an admirable resistance to signing aging players to long-term contracts.
Without a wholesale cleansing of this team, get used to looking up at them for the next 7 or 8 years.
Just out of curiosity, why is everyone saying no to Teixeira? He’s a young, power hitting, gold glove first baseman.
There has to be something owed to the fact that we all sort of thought the game was lost as soon as that lineup was posted. Seems like the players may have thought the same. Has Girardi just lost touch with this team? Sure looks like it. To me even his often odd performance does not justify this pathetic output. These guys should be doing their jobs even if a drunk and belligerent Michael Kay is calling the shots from the booth.
Man is the YES team pressing the Damon “AL batting leader sitting on the bench” angle pretty hard. I pray it is not coming from above or this team is truly cooked.
In other news:
Sheffield has problems in anther city with another manager. Hmmmm, just maybe Gary is the problem?
I live in Boston and am a Yankee diehard. I’ve only been to one game this entire season. I had tickets for Baltimore and the Yankees on Sept 16th. I wanted to see Monument Park one more time, and just be in that stadium one last time.
I just put the tickets on craigslist and will not be going to the game. I haven’t felt this sick in years.
A pathetic display gentlemen. You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Nothing like a village idiot to keep things “light”.
28-15
Can this lot go 28-15 (.651) over the final 43??? If so, will it be enough?
Well, Johhny got some rest tonight and apparently the manager took a nap too.
Everyone ought to be fresh as a daisy tomorrow.
The over / under line was set at 29 for how many times Girardi will use the word “obviously” during his postgame conference.
“How can a team that has scored 13 runs in a game turn into this?” -trisha
Are you serious? You actually think scoring 13 runs in one game means translates to anything beyond that game? Every night, it never fails, you have the most hilarious comments.
Whining Yankee fans act like they are the fans of the only disappointing team in baseball…
How about the Indians? Seattle was supposed to contend!
Sheesh… I guess all the band wagon fans expect playoffs every single year.
Oh. And no. $200m doesn’t guarantee playoffs. It guarantees playoffs 9 out of 10 years which the Yankees have bettered. One of those 10 years players get hurt and enough under perform so that even a $200m team will miss the playoffs.
I am still puzzled on why we had tihs line up in. It made no sense. Does Girardi realize every game is critical? I was a supporter of Girardi until tonight. We needed this game to set the tone for the balance of series.I think we will get swept against the twins now. This season is over.
Todays loss wasnt all Pudges fault ; )
but things havent been the same since he got here esp since we were on a roll with Molina
Matt, because I think a lot of people think that the Angels are going to resign him.
No point in getting hopes up.
How about sending the entire team to SWB and bringing up the AAA roster? That would make a statement.
BBFan-I still believe in this team. They haven’t really given me any reason to right now, but I still do.
But the past two weeks have been a disaster. Tonight was another one. Nothing is going right for them.
All we can do is hope they turn things around. I still have hope, but it’s decreasing after each loss and they are running out of time.
read what Sheffield had to say today. He is as delusional as many bloggers here..
FOrget it if you read it some of you scholars will want him back to the Yanks..
yeah that may be a good idea, he meets all of the key criteria for being a blog favorite he is ; totally clueless, a me first player of the highest order, only cares about stats, old and breaking down, obscenly overpaid, and use to be good when Green Acres was a hot TV show.
SHeff bringing a smile to our world…
“I live in Boston and am a Yankee diehard. I’ve only been to one game this entire season. ”
Me too. The game I went to was the July 28, 13-4 loss to the O’s. I go to 1-2 games a yr and I just wanted to see Yankee Stadium one more time live, with a win and on a positive note.
“Frank Costanza August 11th, 2008 at 10:31 pm
These guys are relly gonna hear it at Festivus!”
Thank You!!! I love it
John
August 11th, 2008 at 10:37 pm
Whining Yankee fans act like they are the fans of the only disappointing team in baseball
dont give us this crap. it isnt just about the performance and the injuries. they dont play hard, they look defeated and inexplicably girardi sits hot hitters. You think any of us want them to lose?
“For the record, today is 11th August, when even Trisha seems to have given up on the team. Looks like I am alone in believing in the team. Let us see what happens in the next 40+ games.”
BBFan, I have not given up on the team. I have admitted to being mystified by what I am seeing. I really can’t say much more than that. I live game to game and will be thrilled to see this thing turn around. But for right now – I am mystified.
4-1 Boston in the 9th
Another one for Girardi. You have got to go with your best players no matter what! At this time of year there is no time for unnecessary rest for key players. Damon has to play, as well as Giambi. You don’t pay a guy $22 million to sit on the bench against lefties.
Play your offense for the firet 2/3 of the game and if you have a lead go for some defense with Melky in center and Sexson at first. Damon in center allows you to start Betemit as DH for some added power.
Unfortunately Girardi always seem to rest his hot hitters when they are at their hottest!
Torre has less to work with?
Yeah, that rotation of Penny-Lowe-Kudora-Billingsly-Kershaw and the BP with Broxton, Kuo, Biemal, Wade, Park sure is terrible.
They have a top 3 rotation and top 5 bullpen.
Yet they are under .500 in the worst division in baseball.
NEITHER manager is doing their job.
Just out of curiosity, why is everyone saying no to Teixeira? He’s a young, power hitting, gold glove first baseman.
Because he’s not a need, he’s a longterm overrated hitter who is the type of player you only look for if he’s a final piece we are nowhere near that.
CC is a need, Tex is not.
I think Festivus has come early. It’s time for the airing of grievances.
RICKY HENDERSON FOR HITTING COACH!!!!
You’re saying I’m not a fan?
Melky failed for the same reason I have said a million times TRYING TO BE A HERO NEVER WORKS..
really is that concept hard to understand????
they went down like lambs to slaughter and show no pride..
Man for 200 + mill can they at least give me 3 hours of TV and try…….
Bronx Jeer
Glad I could help.
I’m still angry about Jay Buhner!
Attention Buck Showalter !!
Don’t be too hasty in signing on with ESPN in 2009. With George’s health, he doesn’t realize he fired you after 1995.
i like how half the yankees roster have the same jeterian motto. swing at everything.
Alright than. What is the 2009 lineup and who will be the 1b, Betemit? Our lineup would than be:
Damon/Jeter/Nady/A-Rod/Matsui/Posada/Cano/Betemit/Melky
Do you think this game will mark the end of detente between JG and the press?
Kay, and Flash absolutely ripped Girardi on the post game for sitting Damon.
When Kay is calling Girardi out on the post game you know they think his moves are an absolute joke. The media better give it to Girardi on the post game. Girardi will give his usual BS comments.
That 8 game winning steak seems like a distant memory now, this team just looks flat and uninspired. I haven’t heard Kay this cynical in quite awhile. Nice outing from Ponson though, more of the garbage we’ve sadly grown used to from the usual suspects.
I still say it’s the curse of Arod. We will never get a ring as long as he is here. He will be known as a player with big individual stats and that’s it. The Sox are opening it up now on the White Sox.
The thing that makes the Damon move all the more curious is that when it looked like it was going to be another one of those games for the Yankees Girardi could have given Damon Christian’s last two at bats and deflected a lot of the criticism he’s going to get about not playing Damon tonight. That makes me think Damon’s benching has a little more to do with giving him a rest. Did Damon say anything insubordinate lately to the press?
Kay, and Flash absolutely ripped Girardi on the post game for sitting Damon.
Good.
rsm,
you saved my night with the arod comment.too funny
C.C. Sabthia is another huge contract free agent that the Yankees have signed recently that don’t pan out in New York. He also has severe weight problems that are an injury waiting to happen.
No to C.C. We need to get younger, faster, and more athletic overall in the field. I think our starting pitching for next year: Wang, Chamberlain, Hughes, Pettitte, Mussina, Ponson, et.al. looks to be a strength.
The media better give it to Girardi on the post game. Girardi will give his usual BS comments
They did according to Waldman
yankees in series opening games this year (includes the 1 game vs the mets at the stadium before they went to shea):
15-24!
Horrible!!
I fell asleep right after first pitch and I awake to this. Good times. Can someone send “Vistaroof’s” agent a memo and let him know that he can start scheduling DJ’s tee time for early October, gee what a disgrace. This team brings another meaning to the term “rock bottom”.
it’s a good time for a shakeup. looking at the lineup, the clearest opening is restoring Molina as the starting catcher. defense, and Pudge is slumping.
Let’s not trade for Santana but lets sign the overweight East COast hating Sabathia.
Sounds terrific.
John,
How are Yankee fans “bandwagon jumpers” for being disappointed about not winning or making the playoffs? If you’re not disappointed when your team loses, then you’re not a real fan. “Bandwagon jumpers” are fans that only care when the team wins. Somehow I think you fall into that category.
I dont think there is a more moronic statement than when someone calls Yankee fans “spoiled” for expecting to be in the playoffs every year. If you don’t expect to win every year that you compete, then stay the heck out of professional sports. As for your comparisons to the Indians and Seattle,the Yankees are indeed a different animal. The New York Yankees are the most successful franchise in professional sports history. The way they accomplished that is by setting high standards and yes, expecting to win every year.
“CC is a need, Tex is not.”
Correct. Because we’ll have a 37-year old catcher with a bad shoulder playing first base. Fantastical. If not,maybe a trio of Betemit, Duncan and Sexon. Can’t wait.
“I’m still angry about Jay Buhner!”
Ken Phelps right. Yeah that was one for the ages.
Girardi “we’ve struggled the last few days”
Yeah like the last 120 days
Girardi is on Crack! -
You think Pudge wasn’t playing hard when he popped up? He was pissed! You think Melky was dogging it when he grounded into that double play? He’s playing for his spot on the team and possibly a spot as a major league player… Ditto Sexton.
Whenever you lose you look lazy, no heart blah blah blah. Whenever you win, you have heart and are gritty… Blah blah blah blah blah…
Fans and media commentators have been saying this nonsense for decades when a team they perceive to be talented isn’t winning.
News break. MAYBE THEY JUST ARENT THAT GOOD!!!
Well, they certainly did play with urgency tonight, under 2 hours and 20 mins for that masterpiece.
By the way Longoria is out with a broken wrist, and Crawford may be done for the season, so we may not even get to see the Red Sox miss out on the division.
Who really cares about the post game comments?
Do you really expect them to rip their coaches and teammates?
You people are out of your minds.
Correct. Because we’ll have a 37-year old catcher with a bad shoulder playing first base. Fantastical. If not,maybe a trio of Betemit, Duncan and Sexon. Can’t wait.
And 9 DHs
“Do you think this game will mark the end of detente between JG and the press?”
Who cares? They are a bunch of Mor*ons any way.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-wm9N0KiAs
Joe Girardi definitely not entertaining questions about Damon not playing. He cut Kim right off after his answer.
He was REALLY pointed in his response saying Christian has been hitting well against lefties.
“I still say it’s the curse of Arod. We will never get a ring as long as he is here.”
Angelo, I’ve been saying that about this guy since the 2004 meltdown. He doesn’t belong in New York because he cannot handle NY pressure, period! He also would be better off being in a lineup where he can play shortstop. He is a good third baseman, but he was a great shortstop. He needs to be elsewhere for the Yanks to succeed in the future.
Bright side: Maybe tickets for the first season at the new Yankee Stadium won’t be so hard to come by after all!
Joe G said he didn’t think the team looked flat. Was he watching the same game as the rest of us?
Tonight Kay was taking a rather cynical stance and I liked it Girardi made a bone-head “oustside the box” decision and he got burnt. However this game would have likely been the same even with Damon on the card. This team has a “well we tried and a lot of guys are injured” feel to them and honestly I’m glad I’ve been phasing them out lately they aren’t very fun. I’m just about ready for football.
Let’s not trade for Santana but lets sign the overweight East COast hating Sabathia.
Sounds terrific.
Sabathia >>>>> Santana if you can’t see or notice that then your blind.
So it was Christian’s 9 MLB hits off lefties that had Damon riding pine. OK I see that.
Yeah, let’s pass on a
Cy Young award winner who is in the midst of his prime because he’s too fat. I agree. He wins too many games and eats too many innings for my taste anyway.
cashman hasn’t spent on a free agent since he gave damon a 4 yr deal. what makes u think he’ll start spending now? he’s really added to this staff and to this bench in recent years. you got real solid scranton level players on it.
cashman is the same guy who thinks melky is a legit major leaguer and kennedy is an untouchable. what a joke.
I can’t stand how Girardi can’t just answer a question nicely. He ALWAYS has to respond to a question when someone asks him why he did something with being EXTREMELY rude. His act with the media is getting old. Like Kim is not allowed to ask why Damon didn’t play?!! Girardi needs to get used to the NY media this is not Florida that had 2 beat writers. He sounds like a fool when he gets so upset. I am glad his pathetic answer was he wanted to get a rookie into the lineup so he sat someone who who has been as hot as Damon.That makes sense..What an awful reason…
If Girardi wanted to get Christian in the lineup so bad, WHY NOT BENCH MELKY!!!
Girardi is showing why he only kept the job one year last time he was a manager. He is a terrible manager.
Lets be rational people, Sandy Koufax…I mean Perkins did a fine job tonight he earned that W and kept the Yanks off balance you can’t take that away from the guy he is a legend in the making!
Well, another bad loss and its really getting to the point where the yanks are going to play some great baseball (not good baseball) over the next 40 games and that too based on other teams (boston and minnesota) playing bad baseball.. Unfortunately I dont see that happening with boston having a good rotation of beckett, lester and matsuzaka and quite a few games at home.. I was ready to accept this season as an experimental season with our youngsters in the rotation and Girardi at the helm.. The problem is the yanks have been pretenders for most of the season.. They played good baseball right after the break when they got good pitching from joba, moose, andy and sidney.. Rasner was keeping them close too and the offense starting to look good.. ever since they made the nady/marte trade, the team has gone south.. now the trade brought in good players and they are doing their part.. the problem is with inconsistency throughout the lineup and the questionable moves by girardi in the last 2 weeks.. We miss Posada’s bat a lot in that middle of the order.. On an average year, posada gives you .280 avg with 20 hrs and 80+ rbis plus a switch hitter right in the middle of the lineup.. That is something irreplacable.. Matsui’s absense is notable too but we missed him in 06 and were able to still overcome that.. With Damon, A-rod and Abreu only having good seasons and Giambi hitting only solo homeruns, there is really no depth in the lineup.. could anyone have guessed Jeter, cano and melky to have poor seasons like this , probably not.. Add in the injury factor.. it is really amusing that they are this close to the wildcard..
with all this factored in,even if they make the playoffs, do you think yanks can make it past the first round ? I don’t think so.. Angels will bury them.. simply bury them…
I think its high time the yanks give up on their faint playoff hopes and start looking forward towards next year.. may be they can put a few guys on waivers.. if they are not looking to resign abreu and may be even giambi.. not sure about their NTC but these guys could fetch some young prospects in return.. There are teams which need some bats..
Rest Joba and matsui for the rest of the year.. Bring up some prospects and give them a chance..I’m not saying guys like A-jax etc, but guys like shelley who have shown glimpses.. Its really frustrating to watch a bunch of veterans show up and lose everyday.. I would rather watch a bunch of youngsters play with heart and show what they’ve got to offer..
Who says Sabathia will sign here?
So, we punted this season just so we can be one of 15 teams to offer him 160 million for 7 yrs?
When we could have had Santana for one good player and two AAA players?
I do like how you are fitting Sabathia for pinstripes but that ain’t no lock. Santana was a lock.
Or maybe you like Kennedy in the rotation.
Girardi’s had a disastrous August. i hope it’s inexperience he’ll learn from.
So interesting. Sidney down on the way he pitched and he went 8 innings and gave up 4 runs. Kennedy went 2+ giving up 5 ER and thought he pitched well.
Sidney really beat himself up and said (paraphrase) he should have put zeroes on the board. How sad that starting pitching blames itself when the offense didn’t come through.
15-24 in the first game of series
A TRO CIOUS
“Yeah, let’s pass on a
Cy Young award winner who is in the midst of his prime because he’s too fat. I agree. He wins too many games and eats too many innings for my taste anyway.”
Children should not be allowed in adult conversations.
i didnt bother to watch the postgame, as i was still ill from the awful game that preceeded it. what were the comments by joe,and the players?
For the first time all season, I actually wasn’t even upset when the game wass over.
The reality of it really truly being over has finally set in for me I guess. I’ve run out of hope.
Which is good because now maybe I can enjoy watching some other MLB games without festering about the Yanks.
Next year’s another season and will be here before you know it.
A lot of you are quite humorous. Another bright side to the Yankees’ awful showing: More witty commentary than following a win!
I do like how you are fitting Sabathia for pinstripes but that ain’t no lock. Santana was a lock.
I’ll say it right now, CC Sabathia in 2009 will be in a Yankees uniform/cap.
We are paying the price for not being the high bidder for Dice K. We are paying the price for not trading Kennedy and the Melkman when we had the chance. We are paying the price for neglecting the farm system, the draft and latin free agents from 1999-2005. We are paying the price for neglecting the bench. We are paying the price for choosing Igawa over Ted Lilly.
Not only does Jeter have an Edge, but also another boring, lame comment after the game
blackaccord, if they get into the tournament the Yanks have a great chance. excellent closer, good bullpen, Moose/Pettitte/Joba. and if it happens, it means the offense is hot at the end of the season. maybe even a deeper lineup w/Matsui back.
“Girardi’s had a disastrous August. i hope it’s inexperience he’ll learn from.”
He doesn’t seem to be learning. He’s done this with every lefty they’ve faced. He acts like they’re all Randy Johnson in his prime.
Disgusted. Why are they even showing up if they are going to play like that?
“Yeah, let’s pass on a
Cy Young award winner who is in the midst of his prime because he’s too fat. I agree. He wins too many games and eats too many innings for my taste anyway.”
Unless the Yanks are picking up his tab at the all you can eat place I don’t know why his weight is always an issue. He can pitch and eat as many innings as he does sandwiches and he has hardly ever been hurt in his entire career your bad health claims are groundless.
Pepitone
August 11th, 2008 at 10:53 pm
“I still say it’s the curse of Arod. We will never get a ring as long as he is here.â€
That’s just a crutch. Belief in curses is kind of crutch that RSN needed for 80 something years.
Rather than accept that until 2004 their team just wasn’t good enough when it counted to win.
Bob Lorenz looked like he was about to crack up after Girardi’s post game.
“So, uh… that was the skipper’s rationale for batting Christian leadoff.”
THis is how pittsburgh fans feel or other bad teams…
Jeter with more words of wisdom…
yeah it is the lineup reason tonight that has caused them to be schooled by the likes of; perkins, the texas lefty who throws junk, or andy sonnastine, or a rookie first game starter from the reds, or gorzolloney, or davies of KC, or Buress or Olson form the Orioles and on and on.
if you eliminate d there record against Seattle and Oakland this team is a sub 500 team. this team is truly bad… as someone else posted earlier there offesne will score 130 runs less then last year.. that is staggering… there pitching is actually better then last year, can you beleive that??
SJ44, would you be able to clarify further on what you see as Joe’s hatred of Ian?
This was a pathetic effort – and as much as I think Girardi messed up tonight, I hold the player’s responsible. I find it funny that some people refuse to blame those most directly responsible for results……..the players. It always has to be someboday else’s fault, it can’t be the players. I don’t get it.
Granted, I’m rather annoyed right now, but I don’t see much of a promising future for this team. Ok we have Joba and Phil and a couple of good bullpen arms. The everday lineup? It stinks. A-Rod is great, but everyone else is old and declining, or else they are young and lousy or young and lackadaisical (Melky, Cano). We have Austin Jackson who is a year or so away and no other decent positional prospects who are anywhere close to being major league ready. I doubt those who are in the lower minors are any good – aside from Cano, who have the Yankees developed in the last decade?
This has been a far worse season than any I can remember, even worse than the Stump years. Those teams were bad, but they were great at being bad. This team puzzles the heck out of me. Cash has made good moves (how can you knock his deal for Pudge and Marte/Nady), yet they have not worked out. This constant stream of bad luck is depressing. I just wonder when the Yankees will get any breaks – we’re paying for all of our WS titles.
Not only does Jeter have an Edge, but also another boring, lame comment after the game
And your surprised by this he clearly is in the mold of Micheal Jordan, he’s leading by example.
Sabathia is not an East COast guy. How many stories does his agent and buddies have to plant for you to realize that? All those West Coast teams have money to spend. The Mets have money. The Sox have Manny’s money.
This guy ain’t no lock. Cashman is obv gun shy about spending money on long term deals.
We’re going to end up with another Latroy Hawkins type. Joy.
I can not believe this team has gotten even softer under Girardi than it was under Torre. The total lack of respect for the fundamentals of baseball and even the game itself has been a cancer on this team for years…It has now metastasized…The only cure is to completely overhaul the leadership from top to bottom.
Cashman and Girardi should be jettison immediately. Jeter should lose his captainship and several of the veterans that have become complacent and have accepted mediocrity need to be removed from the Clubhouse.
Is this knee jerk reaction to a losing streak? maybe, but how many years do I have to watch this team Play just good enough to make the play-offs? Now this is not even their goal. This team is mailing it in every day. Something tells me if King George was still himself, we would not suffer this cavalier attitude from so many of these overpaid, overhyped…jerks.
Where art thou Buck Showalter?
I just came on the computer and thank god i didn’t watch the game tonight. Just from the comments here, it sounds bad. I didn’t even get to the other Yankee boards so I can only imagine what everyone else in Yankee land says. That lineup JG put out there tonight on paper sounds horrible. What was he thinking??
Well, if you’re looking for some brighter news Michael Phelps did get his gold in the 200M freestyle. Thank god for the Olympics to take your mind off pathetic baseball teams.
Sheesh, that wasn’t Sidney’s fault at all. I’ve no idea why he is beating himself up about it. If he’d have given up ZERO runs, it still wouldn’t have been enough.
Idiots like Brandon and Stuart want Jeter to rip into his teammates and his coaches and manager.
Get a clue.
How ridiculous are fans like you?
“For the first time all season, I actually wasn’t even upset when the game wass over.
The reality of it really truly being over has finally set in for me I guess. I’ve run out of hope.
Which is good because now maybe I can enjoy watching some other MLB games without festering about the Yanks.
Next year’s another season and will be here before you know it.”
I agree 100%. I am looking forward to football, and i might check out Phil’s start at SWB instead of the Yankee game.
Gut this team! Start over. I give up.
“Children should not be allowed in adult conversations.’”
Yeah, because signing an ace under 30 is a bad move.
You want the team to be more athletic and you want them to keep Ponson? A drunken lout who’s managed to scramble together a couple of good outings. Ponson over C.C.? Good God.
I can make the case that this is Pudge’s fault. How has the team done since he got here? What is the ERA? Have they hit? How was the team ERA with Molina in July?
Direct correlation.
sooner or later free agents will spurn the team and go somewhere else for less money just to win a world series.
the sux tough it out tonight with out papi they win and grind and the pretty boys(yankees) will go down like sheep.
they went down without a whimper, that is the thing I find most disturbing about this team the lack of perceived battling.. 1 thing that shows that is the length of the game and the amount of pitches the Yanks see..
a example of the yankee sheep attitude is; the other night against texas jeter got picked off was running to 2nd and gave up to michael young for the out but young dropped the ball.. yeah the chances of being safe are almost nonexistent but you do not give up.. call me a nitpicker or foolish but Jeter gave up on that play, try, get dirty, do not give up…. this to me symbolizes there fight no different then Cano’s lack of dive yesterday against the angels…
the do not really want it like the other teams, they are to gentlemanly… I believe this….
Idiots like Brandon and Stuart want Jeter to rip into his teammates and his coaches and manager.
Get a clue.
How ridiculous are fans like you?
Steve you apparently bought the Ford w/ Panaramic vista roof..How’s the view from there ?
When this team gets on a run, with molina playing day in and out, will all of you declaring them dead stop posting????????????????????????????????
Yeah, Buck Showalter, he would have made a difference….pathetic, really pathetic.
Thank god the Olympics are on and football is starting soon.
“Yeah, because signing an ace under 30 is a bad move.”
His name was Santana. We had him for three average players yet we turned it down. Inexplicably.
UNSER
stop making sense…not cool
Just got back from a weekend in Chicago – saw the Cubbies beat St Louis and saw the R’Sox lose to hometown W’Sox…
This is going to be the Cubbies year – great team and playing like winners… the Yanks should have hired Sweet Lou back – best manager out there.
Now – I come back to the winter of my discontent – another loss by this overpaid & over coddled prima donnas…
The atmosphere before the game in Wrigleyville was electric & Ted Lilly pitched well… solid team with not much holes…
Yanks have more holes than swiss cheese…
I’m all out of carrots. I’m all out of sticks.
It’s been a nice run.
See ya in 2009.
Sincerely,
G. Love
Brandon, when you due back at Bellevue?
Is it nap time yet?
Like Jeter is ever going to rip teammates and coaches.
Take your meds, son. These are professionals. They aren’t fans.
OK folks I am calling it a night.
The positive things will start happening from tomorrow.
Don’t lose hope. There are still 40+ games and 1/4th season still left.
“I can make the case that this is Pudge’s fault. How has the team done since he got here? What is the ERA? Have they hit? How was the team ERA with Molina in July?
Direct correlation.”
I can make the case that this is your fault. Who are you? How long have you been a fan of baseball? Why is your IQ the same as your shoe size?
Not the best quality, but this might cheer you all up a bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUJQQPSZAH8
Girardi has made a few questionable moves this season but sitting Damon for Christian really makes me shake my head in amazement. I understand wanting Christian and his speed on the basepaths, but wouldn’t you want to bolster that threat with Damon as well ? Not to mention what Damon has been doing with the bat. Play Christian and sit the automatic out known as Melky Cabrera. Girardi is rightfully going to be questioned on this call.
“Steve you apparently bought the Ford w/ Panaramic vista roof..How’s the view from there ?”
I lol’d Brandon don’t mind the trolls they only arrive minutes after a loss and usually go away shortly thereafter.
This team’s success lies with Jeter, and he’s hitting .281 in mid-August. When has that ever happened?
I’ll add this to the Pudge thing.
How has the pen been since Krazy left? Who knows there role? I think the pen ERA is something like 9.
A lot to be said for it.
At least with Krazy we could have received draft picks. Pudge may take the arbitration.
In the future, I think I would prefer an ex-Yankee not to manage the team. Joe’s decision tonight (and his ridiculous answers – he will get pounded by the media, deservedly so) are inexplicable, but I hate having to criticize I loved as a player.
The players are almost 100% responsible for a team’s performance, but the manager MUST put his best team on the field. In that regard, Joe failed the Yankees tonight and if the players are grumbling amongst themselves, I wouldn’t be surprised. Damon found out about it by the press, for pete’s sake – that is indefensible.
Oh shut up Steve have a coke and a smile and STFU, you haven’t made sense w/ one comment tonight. Again I don’t give a damn who it is, whether it’s Arod, whether it’s Jeter..whether it was O’neill himself , if your screwing up your open to ripped.
Jetes gives the most rehearsed lines I have ever heard in my life, and he’s not just having an offseason, he’s having a very bad season.
“Unless the Yanks are picking up his tab at the all you can eat place I don’t know why his weight is always an issue. He can pitch and eat as many innings as he does sandwiches and he has hardly ever been hurt in his entire career your bad health claims are groundless”
Al, I know. I was being sarcastic, responding to others. I’m all for signing C.C.
Yanksfanmc, nice work. You forgot one comment from Girardi, though: “Doesn’t much matter what lineup we run out there tonight, I have a feeling we’ll be tipping our cap to the pitcher. Whoever he is.”
Wow I really, really hope Melky gets sent down, Richie Sexson gets DFAed, and a couple of people get called up to replace their spots.
Pete, they are taking their cues from you…your posts drip with sarcasm — all Yankee fans want to win, but some of you are a bit nasty. Trolls aside, get a grip and start rooting for your team — you’ll be watching regardless, you may as well try to enjoy it. It’s baseball, people. The greatest sport in the world. Don’t confuse pressing and poor play for lack of effort or lack of caring. It’s a bad stretch — but we’re not that far out of it. They will pull it together and make a wild card run.
yea its jeters fault.
its jeters fault the starting pitching is terrible, wang is hurt, joba is down, hughes is always rehabbing, pavano never pitches, marte stinks in the al, and kennedy is a 4a pitcher.
blame jeter for cano having a terrible obp. melky showing hes a 5th of’er. arod going thru the motions. girardi not playing giambi and damon vs lefty;s when they rake lefty’s.
blame jeter for posada rushing back from his shoulder injury and making it worse.
its his fault this yr.
First time in a long time I can watch football without having to switch back and forth with the playoff game, its kinda sad but less work for my Tivo.
Move A-Rod down in the lineup or better yet let him sit out for awhile. Couldn’t hurt. Sidney pitched well and went 8! innings, practically unheard of this year by anyone in pinstripes.
“It’s baseball, people. The greatest sport in the world.”
The greatest sport in the world? A non-contact sport is the greatest sport in the world? You must be kidding me.
There’s a reason the NFL revenues dwarf those of the MLB my friend. There is no greater sport then football.
I could care less if Jeter yells at his teammates I care about his effort.
this team needs some jerks, some hard nose players, they do.
they chat with the other players at first, pat them on the fanny, play the proper way blah blah blah..
they need Matsui back yesterday and hughes and if these guys do not deliver this team of weak sheep are toast.
Pevious Yankee teams stunk but played hard nose this team just does not… they turn it on and off, they are comftorable multi millionaires and after about 7 years the experiment is over and it does not work………..
the only semblance of hard nose play is the yankee pitchers hitting more batters then in previous years.
The yanks strike me a the nice guys who accept losing, since none of these guys are related to me I can do with less being nice and more wins…Abreu is so soft he plays like a guy from beverly hills, and this comaprison exists for many of the players and therefor they need a purge for next year, not a slight remodel but a demolition..
MER
You really think that they are going to put it together? What makes you believe this? They have played basically 500 ball for 120 games. It seemed the rest of the team was even somewhat annoyed about Johnny being out of the lineup.
Remember when alot of guys used to play all 162?
Take those meds before bedtime, Brandon.
Keep waiting for Jeter and the rest of them to rip their mates and their coaches. Going to happen real soon, Brandon.
Talk about having a screw loose.
Can someone change the channel, I think I’ve seen this before.
“Yeah, Buck Showalter, he would have made a difference….pathetic, really pathetic.”
How so?
Were you a Yankee fan when Stump the lump was running the show? Buck came in a re-established Yankee pride. He was a huge part of the success that Joe Torre enjoyed…Yeah he had faults, (who doesn’t) but game tactics and decipline were his strong points…Exactly what this team is lacking right now. Injuries or not this team should be playing better than some AAA team.
“Because he’s not a need, he’s a longterm overrated hitter who is the type of player you only look for if he’s a final piece we are nowhere near that.
CC is a need, Tex is not.”
Brandon, have you seen how this offense has been misfiring all year? Teixeira clearly helps. Is he alone going to save the team? No. But the Yankees need to start putting the right pieces together and Teixeira is the right piece. He’s a switch hitter who’s bat is in the mold of a Bernie Williams. He’s also 29, and not prone to injuries for awhile. I wouldn’t give him 10 years, but I would court him hard this off-season. I agree that he’s very good, not great, but that’s the exact type of player the Yankees won Championships with. A team that has Nady, A-Rod and Teixeira is set offensively.
Ponson has given this team a few solid outings in a row, and is getting little to show for it. Giese pitched a great game and the offense couldn’t bust it open. This team is a horrid situational hitting team now, and has been less than stellar in recent years. Signing Teixeira would be a step in the right direction. And I’d rather give a hitter a long term deal than a pitcher who could break down at any time.
Also, as much as CC would help the Yankees, they have Joba, Hughes, Wang, and can re-sign Pettitte and Mussina. That’s not a bad rotation. I’m not saying not to go after CC, but given the absolute dearth of position players in the Yankee sysem and the perfect first bas candidate being out there, to me, going hard after Teixeira is a no-brainer.
rconn23- You are one of the few people making sense on here tonight actually I commend you.
This team needs players like Youkliss and Pedroia and Lowell and Varitek and Beckett.